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AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 2ND MEETING OF THE MIAMI BEACH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.WE HAVE, UM, A FAIRLY FULL DOCKET TODAY, AND SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, BEGIN, ROGELIO, GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME TO THE JULY 2ND, 2024, DRB.
UM, AND I WILL CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, MR. SHELDON, UM, MR. DIFFENDERFER, UH, CHAIR GILLER, UM, AND I'M AND MS. AND MS. MEYER.
UM, WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE ABSENT TODAY, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT CITY HALL, CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, AN APPLICANT STAFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLA PLATFORM WEBINAR.
IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS TOLL FREE.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOGIN INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
NOW, BEFORE I SWORE IN THOSE THAT WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THIS BOARD.
THAT INCLUDES ARCHITECTS, ATTORNEYS, OR EMPLOYEES REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REP, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IN THREE CIRCUMSTANCES.
ONE, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON, ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY.
TWO, IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING.
THREE, IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM THAT SAID, EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS STILL SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
NOW, IF YOU'RE, NOW, IF YOU'RE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT AND, UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PLEASE TO SWEAR AND OATH.
AND MY VIRTUAL VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE MEET, BE SWORN ONE BY ONE AT THE TIME OF THEIR TESTIMONY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
OKAY, SO, SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, ON THE AGENDA FOR A CON REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
UH, THESE ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THEY INCLUDE VARIANCES.
UM, AND WE NEED FIVE MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON VARIANCES.
SO THESE WERE HEARD LAST MONTH, UM, AND SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THEY BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING.
AND WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM.
UM, SO THE, THE FIR THE TWO, THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, ITEMS TWO, WHICH IS DRB 24 0 9 9 8, WHICH IS 4 3 3 0 NAUTILUS DRIVE.
WE HAVE DRB 24 DASH 10 16, WHICH IS 9 76 WEST 41ST STREET, 3 9 2 5 AND 3 9 1 5.
ALTON ROAD, DRB 24 DASH 10 14, WHICH IS FOUR THROUGH SIX STAR ISLAND DRIVE, DRB 24 DASH 10 15, WHICH IS 1801 ALTON ROAD.
THOSE ARE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA FOR REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, WE'RE GONNA ADD ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT'S NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS DRB 23 DASH 0 9 68.
THAT'S THE CITYWIDE DIGITAL INFORMATION KIOSKS.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING THAT THAT ALSO BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
UM, SO WE CAN HAVE A MOTION, UH, REQUESTING THAT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS BE CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING.
MAKE A MOTION, A MOTION BY MR. DIFFENDERFER.
AND WITH THAT, WE, I GUESS WE CAN PROCEED.
OH, AND WE HAVE THE AFTER ACTION ITEM, UH, UH, AFTER ACTION, UM, REPORT, IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THAT.
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UMM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.WE HAVE, UH, OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE DRB 23 DASH 0 9 5 6.
THE FIRST ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 23 DASH 0 9 56 19 0 1 ALTON ROAD.
WHOLE FOODS, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW THREE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING WAIVERS FROM THE LONG FRONTAGE STANDARDS AND A VARIANCE FROM THE MAXIMUM WIDTH FOR ENTRANCE AND EXIT DRIVES TO REPLACE, UH, EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE SITE.
THIS IS CONTINUED FROM APRIL 2ND, 2024 AND JUNE 4TH, 2024.
ONLY THE GARAGE SCREENING WAS CONTINUED.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPOSAL WAS APPROVED.
UH, THANK YOU GI ALSO, AS STATED, UM, THIS IS ONLY BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE SCREENING AROUND THE GARAGE.
UH, THE GARAGE IS LOCATED ON THE SECOND, UH, THROUGH THE FOURTH LEVELS OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, UM, SECOND THROUGH THIRD, INCLUDING A ROOFTOP, UH, PARKING.
UM, THE BOARD HAD CONCERNS LAST, UH, LAST TIME THAT THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE THE BOARD REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE OR VIABLE GIVEN ITS LOCATION.
IT WAS LOCATED BEHIND THE SCREEN.
UM, SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND REDID THE, THE PLANS FOR THE SCREENING.
UH, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY REVERSED IT.
THE LANDSCAPING IS NOW AT THE FOREFRONT.
THE SCREEN IS LOCATED BEHIND THE LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND SO THIS MAKES SURE, THIS ENSURES THAT THE LANDSCAPE IS ACTUALLY VISIBLE, UH, THAT THE LANDSCAPE, UH, WILL ACTUALLY RECEIVE DIRECT SUNLIGHT AND WILL BE VIABLE.
UM, AND, AND SHOULD, SHOULD ADDRESS, UH, THE BOARD'S CONCERNS.
OVERALL, WE FEEL THAT IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT IT BE APPROVED.
WE LIKE TO START WITH GRAHAM, PENN BURKE, DALE FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAP 200 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
I THINK THAT THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE THIS MORNING ARE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE DESIGN, AND WE ARE, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THE BOARD GAVE US TO REVISIT IT BECAUSE WE THINK WE ENDED UP WITH A BETTER LOOKING BUILDING FOR THE RECORD, I WANTED TO NOTE, UM, BECAUSE WE DID MENTION THIS LAST TIME, WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT'S IN THE ORDER THAT'S RELATED TO THE, THE PORTION OF THE SCREENING THAT'S AGAINST THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, UH, PROPERTIES TO OUR EAST AND OUR NORTH, NORTHEAST EAST.
NOTHING IN THE DESIGN HAS CHANGED RELATED TO THOSE FACADES.
SO I'VE, WE, WE'VE SENT THAT AGAIN TO THE, TO NISSAN AND KADEN, WHO REPRESENTS THE SYMPHONY, JUST TO MAKE SURE.
AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ON THE RECORD.
AGAIN, THERE ARE NO REVISIONS TO THAT.
UM, WITH THE ONLY CHANGES WE'RE MAKING ARE WHAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH AND ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO, UH, WITH ME THIS MORNING, OUR TEAM, THE GALT, WE GOT MARISSA AND RUSSELL GALT, UH, JENNIFER MCCONNEY, WHO'S GONNA GET UP HERE IN A SECOND AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES.
JUSTINE VALEZ FROM URBAN ROBOT, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO'S LANDSCAPING CAN NOW BE SEEN WITHOUT THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF IT.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE THE, UH, THROUGH THE, I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH IT.
THAT IS THE, THE REDESIGN RIGHT NOW.
BUT I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH KIND OF THE REMINDER SLIDES OF WHERE WE ARE.
PROPERTIES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 19TH AND ALTON.
IT, IT DEVELOPED WITH A WELLS FARGO FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
WE HAVE THE CONDITION, UM, THAT WAS IMPOSED LAST TIME WAS BASICALLY THAT THE SCREENING NEEDED TO COME BACK.
THE REST OF THAT CONDITION, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, WAS WHAT I JUST MENTIONED BEFORE, RELATED TO THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING CLEARLY, BUT THE, UH, THAT IS THE, THE GROUND FLOOR THAT IS A PIECE OF THE SECOND FLOOR
SO, SO THE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, UH, REDUCE THE SIZE P THERE WE GO.
WE'LL DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY.
WE CAN SEE THE CHROME AROUND IT.
SO THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE HAD PROPOSED LAST TIME, WHICH WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE 2016 APPROVAL.
BUT AS LIO NOTED, THE BOARD THANKS GUYS, THAT THE BOARD, UH, ASKED US TO REVISIT IT TO KIND OF REDUCE THE MONUMENTAL SCALE OF THE FACADE IN RELATION TO THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FRAMING.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT JENNIFER, HER AND HER TEAM, WENT BACK AND REVISITED AND SHE'S READY TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
JENNIFER MCCONNEY WITH STUDIO MCG ARCHITECTURE.
UM, WHEN WE WENT BACK TO STUDY THE SCREEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID REALIZE THAT, THAT THAT
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SCREEN AND THE FRAMES ABOVE THE SECOND FLOOR WERE REALLY CREATING A LOT OF MASSING ON THE BUILDING.UM, IT WAS ALSO SUFFOCATING THE LANDSCAPE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE SCREEN WAS IN FRONT OF THE LANDSCAPE.
UM, SO WE SAID, LOOK, LET'S SEE, WHAT IF WE TAKE IT OFF, WHAT HAPPENS? AND IT, I THINK IT JUST, IT BROUGHT THE MASSING DOWN.
IT CREATED A, I THINK A MUCH NICER PROJECT.
WE CAN SEE URBAN ROBOTS DESIGN OF THE, OF THE, UM, THE FACADE AND THE, THE TREES THAT, UM, THEY'VE DECIDED TO PLANT AND LET'S GO DOWN.
SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
UM, AND WE SIMPLY JUST TOOK THE SCREEN, THE, THE FRAMES DOWN, UM, AND THEN WE MOVED THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF THE PARKING.
SO YOU HAVE THE LANDSCAPE, YOU HAVE A SEVEN FOOT DEEP PLANTER, WHICH IS VERY, UM, GENEROUS.
UM, LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UH, LANDSCAPING, THAT'S DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.
AND JUSTINE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE SCREEN IS NEXT TO THE CAR IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANS, UH, ALONG ALTON.
SO WHAT WE DID HERE IS THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE TALLER.
YOU CAN SEE THE SCREEN IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT I THINK WE, WE KIND OF PEELED BACK THE LANDSCAPING IN THIS RENDERING JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, BUT THAT LANDSCAPE WILL GROW AND PRETTY MUCH COVER THE, ALMOST THE ENTIRE SCREEN.
AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW ON THE CORNER.
WE HAVE THE REALLY COOL BIOSWALE IN THE FRONT.
UM, AND THEN HERE, THIS IS A VIEW FROM, UM, THE CORNER WITH THE FRAMES OFF.
UH, AND THEN THIS IS A SECTION.
SO BEFORE THERE USED TO BE A FRAME JUST ON THE, UM, LEFT SIDE OF THAT SECTION THAT WENT UP 20 FEET PLUS, UM, THAT COMES DOWN.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THAT SEVEN FOOT DEEP PLANNER ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO, UH, LET ME GO BACK TO, UH, OH, THIS IS PERFECT.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THIS BUILDING IS PLANTED, HEAVILY PLANTED.
SO ON THE BACKSIDE FACING, UM, THE HOUSING, WE HAVE A 10 FOOT, UH, WIDE SETBACK WITH A LOT OF, UH, PLANTING THAT.
UM, JUSTINE HAS WORKED WITH THE, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE SYMPHONY ON, AND THEN ALONG ALTON ROAD AND AND 19TH YOU HAVE THIS SECOND, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE PLANTING AT THE GROUND LEVEL, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THAT SEVEN FOOT DEEP PLANTER THAT'S THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PERIMETER ON THE STREET FACADE, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY GENEROUS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT RE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, NOT NECESSARILY THE BIG FRAMES IN THE SCREEN.
UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO INVITE JUSTINE UP HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT PLANNING AT THE SECOND LEVEL.
JUSTINE BELLA'S URBAN ROBOT ASSOCIATES FOUR 20 LINCOLN ROAD.
IT IS SUCH A PLEASURE TO BE PART OF THIS MORE URBANISTICALLY RESPONSIBLE BUILDING.
UM, WE ARE THRILLED THAT THE LANDSCAPE CAN FINALLY BE REVEALED.
UM, WHEREAS OUR INTENTION FOR THE GROUND FLOOR WAS TO, UH, HOST A LOT OF NATIVE PLANTS TO, UH, SORT OF REIMAGINE, UM, A BALD CYPRUS BIOSWALE.
AND WE HAVE DONE SO WITH THE GROUND FLOOR DESIGN.
THE SECOND FLOOR DESIGN WAS REALLY INTENDED TO BE MORE, UM, LIKE A WALLPAPER, MORE LIKE A SKIN OR AN ARCHITECTURAL SKIN OR A FACADE.
AND SO THE PLANTING WE'VE CHOSEN, THERE IS, UH, A COMPILATION OF LARGE LEAVES, TROPICAL PLANTS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO CREATE THAT SORT OF GRAPHIC QUALITY.
SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN OUR ELEVATIONS IS A SORT OF REPETITIVE THEME OF THE TRAVELER PALMS INTERSPERSED WITH THE FISHTAIL PALMS. AND AT THE LOWER LEVEL WE HAVE MONSTERA AND OTHER PLANTS THAT HAVE VERY LARGE GRAPHIC SHAPED LEAVES.
VERY INTERESTING TO LOOK AT BOTH FROM, UM, A SPEEDING, UH, CAR DRIVING BY AND ALSO FROM WITHIN THE, UM, PARKING LOT ITSELF AS YOU'VE PARKED YOUR CAR AND AS A PEDESTRIAN AS WELL.
AND SO REALLY THAT WALLPAPER EFFECT IS CREATING, UM, ANOTHER ARCHITECTURAL, UH, FACADE IN ITS OWN LUSH LIVING WAY.
AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
SO, UM, THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO STAFF'S, UH, ADJUSTED CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER, UH, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? NO, THANK YOU.
SARAH DE LOS RES, SUNSET HARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M GLAD THAT THEY CHANGED THAT BECAUSE WE WERE WARY ABOUT THE LIGHTING KIND OF FLOWING INTO PALAU, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF PALAU.
SO IT LOOKS MUCH, MUCH BETTER.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT THAT CHANGE OCCURRED.
I HOPE YOU KEEP THE
WELL, THEY BELONG TO THE OTHER BUILDING.
PLUS WHATEVER PLANTING YOU DO.
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ANYONE ONLINE? NO HANDS ARE RAISED ONLINE.I'M GOING TO NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA START 'CAUSE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, SO MUCH BETTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SORT OF, IT'S REALLY LOVELY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, REMOVING THIS SORT OF SUPER STRUCTURE.
YOU'D MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE REMOVING IT ON TWO SIDES, BUT NOT ON THE TWO SIDES THAT FACE.
SO WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? ARE YOU RE ARE NOT HAVING, IS THERE A PICTURE OF WHAT THOSE OTHER TWO SIDES ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE IF THEY DON'T HAVE, ARE YOU GONNA LEAVE IT LIKE IT WAS OR IS THERE ANYTHING? THERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT SIMILAR TO AS IT WAS IN, IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE SET.
UM, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A SLIDE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE IT ON SHEET A 2 0 2.
SO IMPLEMENT THE CONDITION AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO IMPLEMENT THAT CONDITION.
SO WE, WE DO NEED TO REVIEW THAT BACKSIDE WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, BUT THAT IS A SCORED, UH, STUCCO THAT YOU SEE ALONG THAT SIDE.
THERE'S NO OPENINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH LIGHTS COMING INTO THEIR, UM, FACADE.
SO THERE'S UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A, A STUCCO WALL RIGHT NOW FACING THEM WITH A LOT OF PLANTING AT THAT SETBACK.
AND THERE'S, WE ALSO LOWERED IT.
SO THAT WALL IS ONLY THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL OF THE PARKING.
IT USED TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.
AND WHY WASN'T THAT INCLUDED WITH THIS? WHY IS THAT BEING DONE SEPARATELY THOUGHT IT WAS APPROVED? RIGHT.
WELL, I MEAN, I CAN, THE, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, THE, THE CONDITION BECAUSE WE'RE, IT'S REQUIRED FOR US TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE NEIGHBOR, THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATED DOING BETWEEN APPROVAL AND BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, SO IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T PART OF THE, THE ELEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO COME BACK TO YOU.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE, THE CONDITION, RIGHT, THE CONDITION AS DRAFTED, AND I I CAN READ IT RIGHT, EXTENDED IT, IT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TO THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED BY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WHICH MEANS REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF STUCCO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ANY REMAINING STUCCO SHALL BE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED CONSISTENT WITH THE MESH DESIGN AT A GREATER DENSITY.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE DENSER THAN, THAN WHAT'S GOING ON THE, ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT WE HAD TO MAKE THAT ADDITIONAL CHANGE SINCE WE ALREADY HAD THE CONDITION FOR US TO DO IT BETWEEN APPROVAL AND PERMIT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO PAINT A PICTURE IN MY HEAD OF WHAT THIS IS.
IN THE INITIAL DESIGN THAT YOU PRESENTED US LAST TIME, WAS THE SUPER STRUCTURE ALSO ON THOSE SIDES? IT WAS NEVER THERE.
IT JUST ENDED BEFORE IT GOT, IT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE BACKSIDE, BUT IT'S, BUT IT WAS A SOLID WALL.
SO, SO NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
AND, AND YET TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WE'RE NOT REINTRODUCING THE FRAME.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST MAKING SURE OF THAT IT WASN'T DIFFERENT, THE FRONT VERSUS THE BACK, IT'S ALL GONNA LOOK SIMILAR.
AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT SCREENING BEHIND THE PLANTINGS LOOK LIKE? IS IT, YES.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A SIMPLE SCREEN.
WE ARE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE WHITE, BUT IT'S A, IT'S AN ALUMINUM, UH, POWDERCOATED, UH, PROBABLY A GRAY COLOR.
AND THEN, AND SO FOR THE NEW WORLD FOR THE BUILDINGS, THEY FELT THAT THIS TYPE OF SCREENING DID NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH PRIVACY? YES.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A SOLID WALL UHHUH, THEY WANTED A MESH IN FRONT OF THE SOLID WALL, SO THEY DIDN'T WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MESHES OKAY.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM WITH THAT ON THAT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT, YEAH, I MEAN REVIEW OF STAFF, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK TOO AWKWARD THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, THIS IS AN ENORMOUS BUILDING.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT FROM ALL SIDES.
THIS IS VERY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AREAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS THERE AS OPPOSED TO FLEW THERE AND STUCK.
SO, AND DOES THE PRIVACY AS WELL.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAD A, CAN I ASK A SAME QUESTION ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? BECAUSE, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WALLS THEN ON THE REAR ARE SOLID ALL THE WAY UP, INCLUDING COVERING THE PARKING.
BUT THE SAME MESH THAT'S ON THE FRONT WILL WRAP IN FRONT OF THAT SOLID WALL, OR NO, THERE'S GOING TO BE PORTIONS OF THAT FACADE THAT HAVE THE MESH AND WE'RE HOPING THAT'S GONNA WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPING.
SO THINGS COULD MAYBE GROW UP THAT
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MESH AND PROTECT THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE BACKSIDE.WE'RE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT.
UM, THOSE A WIDTH THAT HAS PLANTING AT IT? NO.
THERE'S 10 FEET AT THE GROUND AT THE GROUND NEAR PLANTING, BUT THEN IT'S JUST A FLAT WALL GOING, I'LL SAY FLAT OR FLUSH.
IT, IT, IT DOESN'T STEP BACK AND ALLOW PLANTING AT THE SECOND LEVEL? NO.
BECAUSE THERE'S THE RAMP, THE RAMP IS ON THE SIDE.
AND JUST NOT, NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT THE, THE, UH, PER OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE SYMPHONY, THAT IS MOSTLY MESH.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE AS MUCH MESSAGE MESH AS WE CAN POSSIBLY PUT AND, AND TIGHTER FOR PURPOSES.
SO THE, THE STUCCO ELEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE VISIBLE HAVE TO BE MINIMIZED.
THAT'S WHAT THAT CONDITION REQUIRES.
DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT ALL THE LANDSCAPING? YOU KNOW, THAT DAY ONE, THIS IS WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE BEFORE ALL THE LANDSCAPING GROWS IN, UM, ON THE, ON, ON OUR ELEVATIONS, IT'S SHOWN LIGHTLY, UH, THE, THE LANDSCAPE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, 2 0 1, I BELIEVE, I'LL JUST INTERJECT A QUICK COMMENT THAT LANDSCAPING IS ACTUALLY GONNA GO IN PRETTY MATURE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG THE EASTERN FACADE BETWEEN US AND NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, THE TREES ARE INSTALLED AT 16 FEET HEIGHT ALREADY.
UM, AND WITHIN THE, THE SECOND FLOOR PARKING STRUCTURE, THE FACADE ALONG ALTON ROAD IN 19, UM, ON, ON THE WEST SIDE, THOSE PLANTINGS WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED QUITE TALL.
SO THEY'LL HAVE A MATURE LOOK FROM DAY ONE.
SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION.
WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS.
MOVING THE PLANS IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN IS GREAT.
I HAVE A CONCERN IN PROCEDURALLY, I DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS UP, BUT I HAPPEN TO BE LOOKING AT A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT THAT DO NOT LOOK LIKE THE PLANS THAT WE APPROVED.
THIS IS A BIG EXAMPLE OF THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE SCREEN THAT'S CHANGED, IT'S THE WHOLE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
SO HERE WE ARE LIKE APPROVING THE SCREEN, BUT REALLY THE WHOLE BUILDING IS DIFFERENT.
SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WAS APPROVED LAST TIME, EXCEPT FOR THE SCREEN, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT.
AND IF SOMEBODY IS GOING BACK TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, YOU DIDN'T APPROVE THIS, YOU APPROVED THAT WITH A DIFFERENT SCREEN, WE, WE HAVE AN ISSUE.
SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS BEING NOT BEING BUILT TO WHAT WAS APPROVED.
I, I THINK THIS HAPPENING, AND I'M NOT POSITIVE, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESEARCH, BUT I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE IN THAT GRAY AREA AS WELL.
SO DO WE HAVE, WHEN WE'VE APPROVED SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT NOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU APPROACH THAT? THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE APPROVED.
I THINK OVERALL THE PROGRAM OF THE BUILDING IS THE SAME.
THE GROUND FLOOR, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR.
THE SECOND FLOOR THOUGH IS THAT IS VERY, IF I WERE THE ARCHITECT YEAH.
AND THIS WAS MY LEGACY AND YOU DID THAT TO IT, I'D BE REALLY NOT HAPPY.
SO I'M JUST SAYING TO PROTECT ALL OF US.
I WOULD SAY ANY, ANY CONDITIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SCREENING THAT AFFECT THE SCREENING, YOU, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO, TO ADJUST THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, WE CAN ADJUST CONDITIONS AND ADD ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE, UH, THAT THE ARCHITECTURE IS BUILT, THAT THE BUILDING IS BUILT THAT WAY.
OR IF YOU HAVE TO JUST TO PROTECT EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THEM.
IF SOMEBODY LATER COMES AND SAYS, THIS ISN'T WHAT WAS APPROVED.
SO WELL, AND ALSO ONE OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS THAT SCOTT AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING ARE THE PLACEMENT OF, UM, MECHANICAL THINGS ON THE ROOFTOP.
AND IS THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S NOT VERY CLEAR HERE FROM THE DRAWINGS I'M LOOKING BOTH LAST IT, THE ONE FROM LAST TIME SEEMS TO SHOW MORE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SORT OF VERY, I'M GONNA CALL IT EGREGIOUS USES OF ROOFTOP MECHANICAL ELEMENTS THAT COMPLETELY UNDERMINE THE INTENT AND OF THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
AND I CAN SEE HOW IT'S EASY TO COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING AND SAY THIS IS NECESSARY.
BUT I THINK IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE A NECESSARY PROCESS OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
UM, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS THAT WE GET AND RELEVANT TO OUR DISCUSSION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODE SAYS ABOUT HOW THOSE SHOULD BE SCREENED, HOW VISIBLE OR HOW INVISIBLE THOSE ARE.
I COULD SEE HOW IN A BUILDING LIKE THIS, IT'S ENORMOUS.
SO TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT ALL OF THAT IS HIDDEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM STREET VIEW, UM, OR INTERNALLY, WHATEVER THAT IS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE NOW HAVE THIS CONDITION THAT KEEPS COMING UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE FAR CHANGES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.
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CHAIR.YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE DIRECTED AT INTERNALLY OUR PROCESS NOT, AND I SHOULDN'T SAY NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS BUILDING, BUT IN GENERAL ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, AND HOW THAT RELATES BOTH TO OUR JOB AS WELL AS ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND RIGHT HERE, VERY CLEAR, THE ELEVATION THERE IS FOUR FOOT PARAPET INCREASE.
DO THEY HAVE ANY HIGH TO GUESS? COULD THEY GO HIGHER? WHO ARE WE AT 45? THE SCREENING? YOU CAN GO UP TO 50, RIGHT? HUH? WE CAN, IF WE CAN.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE SCREENING OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS, IS THE PARAPET WALL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, WE COULD, WE COULD ADD A CONDITION, UM, RECOMMENDING THAT THE SCREENING, THE, THE PARAPET WALL BE RAISED OR, OR, OR SOME ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO SCREEN THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
I DON'T, I DUNNO, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, IT'S HARD TO EVEN SEE WELL ON THE ROOF PLAN ON A 1 0 5, IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY.
I MEAN, I THINK THE STAIR SHAFTS AND THE ELEVATOR SHAFTS, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY, THE NATURE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE ENCLOSED BY WALLS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE RENDERINGS.
BUT THERE'S NOT ANY, UM, WALLS OR SCREENING OTHER THAN SORT OF THE PRIMARY FACADE SCREENING PROPOSED AT THE MECHANICAL AREA.
IN THE POWER PRESENTATION, IT SEEMS THAT, UM, THERE'S A PARAPET WALL THAT'S THREE FOOT SIX INCHES.
UM, SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT WOULD BE SCREENED FROM THE ROOF LEVEL, FROM THE LEVEL FOUR OF THE MECHANICAL AREA.
ONLY FROM THE STREET VIEW, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME INTENTION IN THE DESIGN OF, NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE MASSIVE MECHANICAL ELEMENTS ON TOP OF THE ROOFS IN VERY VISIBLE PLACES, THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE SOME INTENTION AND DISCUSSION AS TO HOW THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, WHAT EFFECT THAT'S GONNA HAVE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF A THREE FOOT MESH PARAPET IS GONNA DO ANYTHING TO SCREEN THIS MASSIVE BLOCKY ROOFTOP MECHANICAL AREA.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE EFFECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
WELL, AND CAN, CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY REALLY APPRECIATES ABOUT THIS, UM, PRESENTATION VERSUS THE LAST IS, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE TO OUR CITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT AND SAYING WE CAN HAVE LANDSCAPE YEAR ROUND, WE CAN HAVE LANDSCAPE AS PART OF OUR MATERIAL PALETTE IN THE ARCHITECTURE.
AND I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW IS HOW DOES THAT MAYBE BECOME MORE INTEGRATED OR EVEN SET A STRONGER EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT LANDSCAPE IS USED.
YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF BUILDING TALL WALLS AROUND MECHANICAL OR YOU KNOW, LIKE, CAN WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT MATERIAL PALETTE FOR THE EXPERIENCE ALL AROUND THE BUILDING AND NOT JUST AT THE STREET AT THE SECOND LEVEL? AND I, I MEAN, I, I WANNA STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M CONSCIOUS OF ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS HAVING COSTS AND I THINK THAT THE, UM, A GOOD, A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND I, AND I KNOW I PREFACE THIS WITH, I'M SURE IT'S EXPENSIVE.
IT'S THE, THE OMA BUILDINGS WITH THE LANDSCAPE BY INDIA IN THE GROVE WHERE EVERYTHING IS TERRACE.
BUT AS YOU MOVE UP THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE BUILDING, TO SUPPORT THE LANDSCAPE, TO SUPPORT DRAINAGE MECHANIC, IT'S ALL SORT OF INTEGRATED INTO THAT EXPERIENCE WHEREVER YOU ARE AROUND THE BUILDING.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE TABLE AS ONE WAY.
I THINK THIS BUILDING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SET A PRECEDENT.
THAT LANDSCAPE IS WHAT'S BEING USED AS PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
SO HOW DOES IT REALLY SET THAT PRECEDENT? I THINK IT'S SOLVING ONE PROBLEM.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS IN GENERAL IN A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, CAN I, CAN I EXPLAIN? YEAH, WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT.
SO, SO A LOT OF THE, THERE'S A LOT OF REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT IN THIS PROJECT.
IT'S ALL LOCATED IN THE MEZZANINE LEVEL.
SO THAT, THAT'S GOT LU THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
SO A LOT OF THAT MECHANICAL IS THERE AT THE SECOND FLOOR, HIDDEN AND HIDDEN BY THAT LANDSCAPE.
WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE ROOF, THERE IS GOING TO BE EQUIPMENT UP THERE WHERE WE'RE SHOWING IT, WHERE WE ALWAYS SHOWED IT.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ALL OF IT TO BE TALL.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT COOLING TOWERS.
WE'RE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOMETHING NOT SO BIG.
UM, BUT IN FRONT WE WOULD HAVE THE LOWER EQUIPMENT AND AS YOU GET TOWARDS, AS YOU GO AWAY FROM THE, THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING, YOU
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WOULD HAVE THE TALLER EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD NEED A SCREEN.UM, SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE A SCREEN THERE, BUT I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT TO BE MORE THAN FIVE FEET TALL.
SO FROM THE, FROM THE STREET VIEW, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S SET IN AND YOU HAVE THE 42 INCH HIGH SCREEN IN FRONT OF THAT.
SO ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT EQUIPMENT IS, WE WILL HAVE THAT LAYOUT, BUT IT'LL ALL BE SET IN.
WE WON'T HAVE ANY TALL EQUIPMENT UP AGAINST THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING, ALTHOUGH, WELL, IT'S SHOWING HERE ON THE A 1.05 THAT THE MECHANICAL AREA IS TOWARDS THE FRONT YES.
BUT WE WOULD PUT THE LOWER EQUIPMENT, UH, TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE FRONT.
AND THEN WE, AND THAT COULD BE A CONDITION WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
'CAUSE WE DON'T EXPECT THE EQUIPMENT TO BE A GIANT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COOLING TOWER HERE.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING SMALLER THAN THAT.
WELL, YEAH, WE'VE JUST, WE'VE JUST SEEN HUGE COOLING TOWERS ON NOT BIG BUILDINGS.
WE'VE SEEN GENERATORS THAT LOOK LIKE 18 WHEELERS ON, ON ROOFS THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE EDGE.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THE BUILDING'S BEAUTIFUL NOW.
AND IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME TO JUST HAVE THIS BIG UGLY THING IN THE CORNER THERE, WHICH IS FACING 19TH STREET.
SO JUST IF STEP CAN BE AWARE OF THAT.
AND UM, I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS THE DISCRETION OF APPROVING A PARAPET WALL UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 25 FEET IN ABOVE THE MAIN ROOF LINE.
SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
WELL, I WAS EVEN GONNA SUGGEST THAT WHEN LOOKING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE APPROVE IT HERE AND THEN A WHOLE OTHER SET OF WORKING DRAWINGS ARE THEN CREATED THAT YOU GUYS THEN HAVE TO APPROVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONDITION IN ALL IN, IN THESE, NOT JUST COMMER, IT SEEMS TO BE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, BUT IN A LOT OF THE MULTI RISE STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT THE ROOFTOP, THE ROOF LINE AND ALL THE MECHANICALS NEED TO BE APPROVED SO THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT SCREENING THAT INTEGRATES WELL WITH THE REST OF THE DESIGN.
AND IF IT SEEMS LIKE JUST AS YOU KNOW, AN ARCHITECT WOULD MAKE CHANGES TO THE DESIGN THAT YOU FEEL IS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IT, AND IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE DRB THAT IF SOMETHING IS SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS APPROVED, LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN ON A FEW BUILDINGS AROUND WHICH ESSENTIALLY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL STORIES OF THESE BLOCKING MECHANICAL THINGS THAT HAD COME BACK TO US TO REVIEW.
UM, I, I THINK FOR ME THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE, BECAUSE NOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS REDOING THEIR FLOOR PLANS, THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THE, UM, THAT THE ROOF LINE IS, IS NOW BEING OVERLOOKED.
AND IT'S, IT, I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE JUST DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT AND IT'S REALLY GETTING IN THE WAY OF THE, UM, SUCCESS OF THE DESIGN.
AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT, UM, WITH THIS SITUATION.
SO I, I THINK THAT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS OF INCLUDING THAT, WHETHER IT'S NEAR PROCESS OR IN THE, UM, IN THE, IN THE ORDERS THAT WE DO.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST CONSIDERING WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE A REASONABLE WAY THAT THIS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, REGULATED OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF INVOLVEMENT IN THIS.
UM, SO, SO DEFINITELY IF THE, IF THE, IF THE SCREENING, THE MECHANICAL CHANGES THE PROJECT SIGNIFICANTLY, IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD TELL THEM, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD, OTHERWISE REWORK YOUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, MAYBE MOVE IT MORE TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING SO IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE, FROM THE EDGES.
UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AT THIS PHASE, THEY'RE NOT FULLY SURE WHAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THEY'RE GONNA NEED AND THEY'RE, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THEY GET FURTHER ALONG THE LINE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE MORE MINDFUL OF IT MOVING FORWARD WITH PROJECTS THAT COME BACK.
BUT FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, MAYBE WE CAN INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT SAYS, UH, THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE FIRST, UH, FIVE OR 10 FEET OF THE FACADE CANNOT EXCEED FIVE FEET.
AND THEN ANYTHING TALLER HAS TO BE RECESSED, UH, 10 FEET FROM THE, FROM THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO THAT WAY IT'S LESS VISIBLE.
I, I KNOW I WOULD DEPTH OF THE PARKING, THAT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT.
I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S COVERED AND STAFF HAS INVOLVEMENT IN MAKING SURE THAT IT'S AESTHETICALLY MM-HMM,
I MEAN, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD RATHER SEE A WALL THAN MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
SO I THINK IF YOU USE YOUR DISCRETION, BUT I HATE TO PUT CONDITIONS TO MOVE THINGS AT SETBACKS BECAUSE THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC WITH PARKING AND ELEVATORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WELL THEY HAVE AN OUTLINED AREA THERE, BUT, AND I THINK THAT WE COULD PUT THE CONDITION, LIKE YOU SAID, WHERE MAYBE IT'S NOT SO PRESCRIPTIVE OR DEFINITIVE, BUT UM, THAT
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THE LANGUAGE IS ABOUT THE SCREENING BEING, UM, JUST AUGMENTED OF THE EXISTING LANGUAGE AT THE MECHANICAL AREA.SO AGAIN, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT OR SOMETHING ELSE IS INTRODUCED.
AND THEN THE, THE LAYOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, YOU KNOW, GETTING HIGHER TOWARDS THE BACK.
AND I THINK WHAT WE COULD ALSO DO IS SET A PRECEDENT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS TO SAY LIKE, HEY, WE WANNA ACTUALLY SEE A STREET VIEW WITH A SECTION WHERE IF I'M SIX FEET TALL STANDING HERE LOOKING UP, YOU KNOW, AND HERE'S THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL HEIGHTS.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE DOING THAT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PRESENT THOSE KINDS OF DRAWINGS EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IT IS.
SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE AND WE CAN RESPOND AT THAT LEVEL.
I THINK ALSO THE, THE GENERAL IDEA IS TO ENCOURAGE OUR ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS TO THINK ABOUT THESE ELEMENTS HOLISTICALLY AS PART OF THE BUILDING AND NOT JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UTILITARIAN TO SLAP ON AT THE END.
I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WHAT BEEN FALLEN TO THE WAYSIDE.
UM, AND SO WHATEVER GETS US TO THAT POINT WHERE THESE ELEMENTS ARE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC, THIS IS IN GENERAL BIG PICTURE, EVERYBODY THAT IS PRESENTING TO THE CITY JUST TO ENSURE THE QUALITY OF ARCHITECTURE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS BUILDING TURNS OUT WITH THE LANDSCAPE ALREADY HAVING SORT OF THE CYPRESS UM, SWALE IN THE FRONT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PRETTY BOLD AND IT'S GONNA SET A LANGUAGE FOR THIS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE SORT OF A TRENDSETTER, I GUESS WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO, TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THESE OTHER PARTS.
SO THAT COMES WITH IT ALL I WOULD SAY, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THE, THE, THERE IS AN EXISTING CONDITION, RIGHT, WHICH IS I, THAT REQUIRES RIGHT NOW ALL ROOFTOP FIXTURES, AIR CONDITIONING UNITS AND MECHANICAL DEVICES SHALL BE CLEARLY NOTED ON A REVISED ROOF PLAN TO BE THAT WHICH IS SUBMITTED A PERMIT AND SHALL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW ON ALL SIDES IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF, CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA AND DIRECTIONS FOR THE BOARD.
I THINK THIS BOARD HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR IN, IN WHAT IT NEEDS STAFF TO DO IN THAT REVIEW.
SO I THINK THAT THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD THEM AND WE'RE GONNA DESIGN TO THAT AND IT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO YOUR ORDER.
UM, YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT, I'M GLAD THAT YOU POINTED THAT OUT.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT THE ISSUE THAT THE BOARD IS HAVING IN GENERAL, IN GENERAL IS THAT THAT CONDITION DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY WELL EXECUTED AGAIN, NOT, YOU KNOW, ON SOME BUILT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY SEEN.
SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND HOPEFULLY OTHERS WILL TAKE NOTE.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO, SO REGARDING THE SCREENING IN THAT CONDITION, SHOULD WE CONSIDER HAVING, UH, OR ALLOWING FOR HIGHER PARAPETS, UM, WHERE THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS LOCATED? 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE DO WANNA DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BOARD TO GO HIGHER THAN THE, THAN I BELIEVE.
WHAT IS THE PLAN'S PROPOSED? IT'S ABOUT 3.6.
WELL, AND THAT, I MEAN, 25 FEET, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, I I WOULDN'T SAY GOING ALL THE WAY TO 25 FEET, BUT, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN, AND I MEAN, MY CONCERN TOO IS THE SCREENING.
IT'S SORT OF FROM A DISTANCE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A CHAIN LINK FENCE RIGHT.
SO I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUE I, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED INTO THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT IT WILL BE FINE.
AND IF IT HAS TO GO UP HOWEVER MANY FEET, YOU KNOW, LET'S STAFF DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY GET THAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FROM THE STREET.
AND I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THIS, THIS SCREENING, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST, AND, AND I, I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.
I FEEL LIKE I'D LIKE, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE CREATIVE TEAM DESIGNING THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT OF LICENSE FOR MM-HMM.
UM, WELL, I DON'T WANNA DRAG THIS OUT, BUT THERE ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THREE LARGE, IF, IF I'M COUNTING 'EM CORRECTLY, YOU KNOW, LARGE ELEMENTS AT THE TOP OF THEIR, THAT AGAIN, ARE GOING TO BE A SHAFT, PROBABLY AN AIR SHAFT, THE STAIRS, YOU KNOW, THE ELEVATOR.
AND SO I, I THINK THAT ONE THAT SETS A PRECEDENT FOR MAYBE HOW WE DO TREAT THE SCREENING OF THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS A TALL WALL.
BUT THEN NOW I'M SAYING YOU HAVE FOUR, YOU HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM TO BE A LA AN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ALSO, HOW COULD WE ASK THEM TO TREAT THOSE?
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ARE THEY JUST WHITE WALLS? ARE THEY PAINTED OBJECTS SORT OF PROTRUDE AND COME UP, WHICH ARE PART OF A FUNCTIONING BUILDING AND AN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE? CAN THEY APPEAR MORE INTENTIONAL THAN JUST WHITE WALLS? IF THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PLANNED? I THINK ALSO, AND I MIGHT BE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE MOVING THE MECHANICALS NOT, NOT CONSIDERING THE MECHANICALS AS PART OF THE REST OF THE DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE HAS NOW CREATED ITS OWN ISSUE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT BEING PART TREATED, PART OF THE STRUCTURE, AND YET THEY'RE LIVING ON TOP.AND SO I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WAY TO REINTEGRATE THESE ELEMENTS INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT INTERNAL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BECOME PART OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
SO, SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US
BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTEN, I MEAN, I HOPE THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOME GOOD DIRECTION AS TO WHAT THAT SHOULD, HOW YOU SHOULD ADVISE OR WORK WITH 'EM FOR THAT, WITH THE CONDITION THAT IF IT IS SIGNIFICANT TO HAVE US COME BACK AND TAKE A SECOND LOOK.
AND I WOULD ADVISE, AND THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEN YOU ARE DESIGNING A BUILDING, DON'T HAVE THAT AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
AND THEN THE S WALL GOES SO MUCH MORE SMOOTHLY FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION.
WHAT IS THE CONDITION THAT IT'S, IF IT'S ALREADY HERE, I IS ALREADY A CONDITION.
PERHAPS STRENGTHENING, SORRY, PERHAPS STRENGTHENING CONDITION.
I, THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHALL BE DESIGNED TO BE INTEGRATED, UH, AND REFINED INTO THE ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE OF THE BUILDING.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, STRENGTHENING I TO GO AHEAD.
I WOULD SAY TO ADD IT TO, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING THE WORKING DRAWINGS, UM, TO REVIEW IT THEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE ROOF MM-HMM.
WELL, I, I GUESS A POLICY QUESTION OR PROCEDURAL QUESTION, WHEN DO YOU GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE MET? IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
THE, THE PLAN REVIEWER THAT WILL BE, UH, REVIEWING IT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.
WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT ANY APPLICABLE BOARD ORDER.
SO THEY'LL LOOK AT THIS ORDER, THEY'LL LOOK AT THE PLANNING BOARD ORDER AND MAKE SURE, CHECK, CHECK OFF THAT EACH, SO IT'S NOT EVEN YOU, IT'S THE WHOEVER THE PLAN REVIEWER IS THAT RECEIVES THIS PROJECT.
AND FOR, AND FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN THEY RECEIVE SOMETHING THAT HAS THE APPROVAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THEY'LL COME TALK TO ME AND MAKE SURE, HEY, HOW DOES THIS, HOW DO YOU READ THIS CONDITION? HOW SHOULD IT BE APPLIED IN THIS CASE? UM, SO, SO DEFINITELY IN THIS SITUATION THEY WOULD COME TO ME, UH, TO MAKE SURE, HEY, DOES THIS MEET THE, MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE, OF THE BOARD ORDER? SO, SO ANYTHING THAT YOU, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS IN THE BOARD ORDER, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN, THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT.
SO I THINK, UH, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
UH, MOTION BY MS. MEYER, SECOND BY MR. SHELDON.
SECOND, WITH STRENGTHENING CONDITION, UM, CONDITION.
I DI I, UM, REQUIRING THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHALL BE DESIGNED AND INTEGRATED AND REFINED, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.
UM, ANY, ANY SIGNIFICANT, UM, ANYTHING THAT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGES THE LANGUAGE OF THE ARCHITECTURE SHALL BE RE UH, SHALL BE PRESENTED TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
SOMETHING TO THAT YEAH, I'LL, I'LL REFINE IT A LITTLE MORE AS THE FINAL CONDITION, BUT I THINK YEAH, COULD, THAT'S THE, SOMETHING ABOUT WORKING WITH THE EXISTING LANGUAGE SHALL BE SCREENED IN A CONSISTENT MANNER, UM, SCREEN AND CONSISTENT OKAY.
WITH THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.
AND I, AND I WOULD SAY TOO, IT DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE SCREENED IF IT BECOMES PART OF THE
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BUILDING DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO STOP SCREENING THESE AND INTEGRATING THEM.
SO IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN A CONSISTENT MANNER OR INTEGRATED IN A CONSISTENT MANNER.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT IT MM-HMM,
WE WILL DEFINITELY BE MINDFUL OF THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, ANY PROJECTS THAT COME TO US.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS D RRB 24, UH, 1 0 0 4 21.
NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA, DRB 24 DASH 1 0 0 4 21 21 REGATTA AVENUE.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR A TWO STORY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS AND AN UNDERSTORY TO REPLACE AN EXISTING HOME.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 4TH, 2024 MEETING.
SO THIS ITEM, UM, AS STATED, WAS CONTINUED FROM LAST MONTH AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, THERE WERE SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE COLORING ON THEIR PLANS.
UM, THERE, THEY HAD A MATERIALS BOARD THAT SHOWED THAT THE FACADE WAS GONNA BE A CREAM COLOR, BUT THE RENDERINGS ACTUALLY SHOWED IT MORE OF A BROWN COLOR IF YOU HAPPEN TO LOOK AT THE BLANDS, THAT HAS SINCE BEEN CORRECTED.
UM, AND THE, AND THE RENDERING SHOW THAT THE FACADE WILL BE A, A CREAM COLOR, UM, AS, AS ORIGINALLY INDICATED IN THE, IN THE MATERIALS BOARD.
UM, SO THE PROPOSAL HERE IS FOR A TWO STORY RESIDENCE ON AN IRREGULAR LOT.
IT'S A VACANT CORNER LOT ON SUNSET ISLAND.
IT'S DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
UM, SO THE FIRST FULLY HABITABLE FLOOR WILL BE LOCATED AT 17 FEET ON GVD.
AND THEY'RE HAVING, UH, AN UNDERSTORY AREA THAT WILL PROVIDE SOME NON-AIR CONDITIONED SPACE THAT, UH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR PARKING, THAT WILL BE USED FOR PARKING AND SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES FOR THE HOME.
UM, THE STAFF DOES HAVE A CONCERN.
THE, THE LOT AS IT'S IN A REGULAR SHAPED BLOCK, UM, IS ADJACENT TO A, UH, A, A PROPERTY THAT'S IN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT.
IT'S A TRIANGULAR PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT.
UM, IT'S A, IT CONTAINS A PRE 1942 SINGLE STORY HOME.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE SOME ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ON THAT EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS AN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT.
THEIR FUNCTIONAL BACKYARD IS LOCATED ON THE INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK.
UM, SO THEY DO HAVE A NEED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, PRIVACY GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THEIR BACKYARD.
UM, SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, STAFF OVERALL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN, UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
AND, UM, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK WHETHER YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANY PARTE COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THIS CASE NOT, OR APPLICATION FROM ANYONE.
JOSE SANCHEZ, DIRECTOR OF PRAXIS ARCHITECTURE.
UM, THE O OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE BY ZOOM, IF IF NECESSARY, AND ALSO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT MAY BE AVAILABLE IN THIS FIRST IMAGE OF OUR PRESENTATION PACKAGE.
UH, IF YOU CAN SEE IT THERE, UH, THAT'S, UH, BASICALLY THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ON 22ND STREET, THE MAIN IMAGE.
AND, UH, IT'S AN UNDERSTORY PROJECT WITH THE, THE FIRST LEVEL, UH, IT'S, UM, A BASE OR, OR, OR PODIUM FOR THE CARPORTS AND PARKING AND, AND THE TERRACES AND THE, UH, FIRST AND SECOND LEVEL RECEDE INTO TWO DIFFERENT VOLUMES SET BACK WITH SOME LANDSCAPING FOR, UH, TERRACE.
UH, UH, LOOK NOW THIS IS THE, THE AREA, THE VICINITY.
IT'S, UH, ON 20, UH, SECOND AND REGATTA, UH, VERY CLOSE TO, UM, SUNSET DRIVE, THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE ISLANDS AND ENC CLOSES PROXIMITY, WALKING DISTANCE TO
THIS IS BASICALLY ONE OF THE FIRST LOTS, UH, INTERNAL LOTS THAT YOU, THAT YOU CAN FIND IN THE FIRST ISLAND.
AND THERE'S A MIXTURE OF, AS, AS IN MOST OF THESE ISLANDS IN THIS SOUTH OF MIAMI BEACH, A MIXTURE OF OLDER 1950S AND 60 HOUSES AND SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE STREET, GET BACK TO THE MATERIALS AND OTHER VIEWS.
BUT LET'S GO AND TO THE PLANS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT MEETS
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ALL THE SETBACKS, ALL THE, UH, DIFFERENT REGULATIONS.AND, UM, AND UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE COMMON FOR EXTERNAL LANDSCAPING, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THE ENTIRE, UM, IT'S EAST SITE WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH LANDSCAPING EVEN IF YOU DO NOT PASS THROUGH THAT AREA, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS TO ACCESS.
AND WE CAN SEE NOW IN THE GROUND FLOOR, THIS IS THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND BASICALLY WHAT STARTED THE PROJECT, BECAUSE MY, MY CLIENT, THE OWNER, THEY HAD APPROACHED US FOR OUR REGULAR TWO STORY HOUSE.
BUT ONCE WE DID THE DIAGRAM IN THIS SIZE LOT, WE REALIZED EARLY ON THAT YOU COULD ONLY HAVE A ONE CAR PARKING GARAGE.
UM, IT'S, IT WAS NOT, UH, POSSIBLE.
THERE'S NO PARKING IN THE STREET.
SO THIS WAS, UM, THE, THE LOGICAL DIRECTION TO GO TO WITH AN UNDERSTORY HOUSE.
BASED ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ORDINANCE IN THIS, UH, GROUND FLOOR, WE COULD, UH, HAVE, UH, PARKING FOR, UM, THREE PARKING, UH, THREE, UH, AUTOMOBILES OR MAYBE FOUR SMALLER ONES.
AND THERE'S A LARGE TERRACE WITH, UM, ENOUGH GREEN AREA AROUND IT, MUCH MORE THAN IF IT WAS A ONE, UH, A REGULAR TWO STORY HOUSE.
AND THE FIRST FLOOR IS, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
IT'S I THINK LESS THAN 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND IT JU, IT JU IT HAS ALL THE COMMON AREAS TO THE REAR ONE, UH, GUEST, UH, BEDROOM OR FLEX ROOM AND THE LIVING ROOM IN THE FRONT.
AND IT HAS, IT HAS SETBACKS, ALL OR OFFSETS IN THE, IN THE FRONT PLANES IN, UH, THE NORTH AND THE, UH, THE, THE, THE NORTH, THE WEST AND THE SOUTH SIDES.
SECOND FLOOR, IT'S A VERY COMPACT, UH, CIRCULATION.
JUST THREE BEDROOMS. THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE FLOOR PLAN.
AND, UH, TERRACE IS TO THE BACK PRIMARILY, AND ALSO TO THE, TO THE FRONT.
ANOTHER TERRACE EQUIPMENT IS LOCATED IN THE ROOF TOWARDS THE CENTER, AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT COMPLY WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS.
UH, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY EXTRA HEIGHT, JUST WORKING WITH THE, THE MINIMUM WITHIN THE RANGE OF 24 FEET IN HEIGHTENING ALL THE OTHER TECHNICAL DRAWINGS AND ELEVATIONS SOUTH AND THE EAST.
NOW GOING BACK TO THE MATERIALS, THE FRONT VIEW, AND THIS IS, UH, ON THE SIDE AND WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING A, A, A SIMULATED WOOD MATERIAL THAT THE OWNER, UH, UH, SELECTED OR, OR PREFERRED, UH, FOR THE UPPER LEVEL.
SO IT WOULD BE AS, UH, AND THAT'S NUMBER THREE AS, UH, SOME FOLDED PLANES WITH, UM, AN INCLINE, SORT OF AN ITALIC, UH, FONT THAT IT'S REPEATED THROUGHOUT THE FLOORS.
AND IT'S, UM, IN THIS, UH, SIDE ELEVATION REGARD, DIVIDED TWO, THREE MAINLY HORIZONTAL VOLUMES AND NOT ONE, UH, VERTICAL VOLUME THAT, UM, EXPRESSES THE, THE, THE HEIGHT, UH, MORE.
AND THAT'S THE SIDE VIEW OF THE HOUSE WITH SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE, UM, BE LOCATED IN THESE THREE TREES APPROXIMATELY, AND SOME OF THE PLANTS INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S, UH, THIS, UM, SIMULATED WOOD, UH, SIDING MATERIAL OR TO, TO BE SELECTED AND PAINTED STOCK IN THE, AT THE BASE.
AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S THE CO PALLET AND FOR THE PROJECT.
IT'S, UH, VERY SIMPLE, UH, SMALL HOUSE THAT, UM, MAKES THE MOST OF THIS, UH, LOT.
UM, THAT, UH, CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? NO, I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I WILL QUICKLY SAY THAT, UM, THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE, LIKE THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A SIMPLE, BUT IT'S, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IN A BAD WAY, SO I, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED, THOROUGHLY WORK DESIGN, SO DON'T UNDERSELL IT, SO, OKAY, THANK YOU.
I MEAN, THE FLOOR PLAN, UH, IS SIMPLE.
USUALLY SMALL PROJECTS TO MAKE THEM FIT THEY ARE GETTING, CAN BE MORE COMPLICATED THAN LARGER PROJECTS.
ANY, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO BEGIN? YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE SIDE AND REAR VIEWS, UM, THE ANGLES OF THE,
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OF THE VERTICAL WALLS, THE VERTICAL ANGLES YOU DID ARE REALLY INTERESTING.ONE OF THE BEST KIND OF NOT FRONT VIEWS I'VE SEEN OF, OF A PROJECT.
SO IT LOOKED REALLY, REALLY NICE.
AND THE COLOR SCHEMES LOOK WAY BETTER THAN THEY WERE.
SO THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US.
I DIDN'T SEE A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
DID I MISS THAT OR IS THERE, I I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IN THE RENDERINGS YOU'RE SHOWING MORE LANDSCAPE ON THE EAST.
UM, IT WAS NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION PACKAGE, BUT IT'S IN THE, UM, MAIN PACKAGE.
TRY TO FIND IT HERE ON THE SCREEN.
THEY, THEY, THEY DID SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IT IS ON THE, UH, ON THE ONLINE AGENDA.
I'M DOWNLOADING, I'M GONNA LOOK AT IT.
APOLOGIES I SHOULD HAVE ALREADY.
BUT MY, MY CONCERNS AND, AND THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO THIS PROJECT, AND I WANNA ECHO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, I THINK THE DESIGN IS THOUGHTFUL.
I THINK, UM, IT ADDRESSES, YOU KNOW, THE CARDINAL DIRECTIONS WHERE YOU WANT OPENINGS, WHERE YOU DON'T WANT OPENINGS, WHERE YOU WANT SHADING.
UM, IT UNDERSTANDS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF, SOME OF THE EXISTING CONTEXT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES, UH, THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF IN MIAMI BEACH IS AS WE DEVELOP THESE SITES, HOW ARE WE, UM, ADDRESSING GRADE CHANGES AND WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY APPLICANT TELLS US THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO COLLECT ALL THEIR WATER BY CODE, BUT THAT'S
UM, YES, IN, IN A ONE, A 1.2, YOU COULD SEE THE INTERIOR SIDE, SIDE, YARD, SECTION, THE SECTION AND THE SIDE YARDS.
BUT I'M WONDERING, AND SO MY, THAT LED ME TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING PLANTED IN THOSE AREAS, RIGHT? AND IF IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SOD THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE TREATING THOSE AREAS TO MAYBE BE THE MOST RESPONSIBLE, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE MINI SWALES AND ADDRESSING, UH, THE DELUSIONS OF WATER THAT WE GET AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, I GET IT THAT WE'RE BUILDING A WALL AND THAT'S GONNA RETAIN THE WATER, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE LONGEVITY OF THAT WALL AND MAKE, AND HOW DOES LANDSCAPE BE OUR FRIEND DURING THAT PROCESS? SO, AND HANDLE THE OVERFLOW OF ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL, AND IT'S NOT JUST YOU, THESE LONGER POOLS AND WATER FEATURES NOW THAT ARE DOTTING THE PERIMETERS OF HOMES.
WE WE'RE HAVING A VERY HARD TIME TRYING TO FEED EVERYTHING.
SOMETIMES THE CIVIL ENGINEERS, THEY USE SWELLS, BUT YOU SWELL IS REALLY ABOUT, UH, PONDING WATER AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT NEAR YOUR PROPERTY.
WE'VE BEEN REQUESTING SOME, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERS TO DO DEEP WELLS, UH, WITHIN, UH, CODE AND NOT, NOT TOO MANY SWELLS.
AND THAT ALLOWS MORE SPACE FOR, FOR THE LANDSCAPING OR LOCATING THE, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, EXFILTRATION TRENCH TRENCHES, THE PIPES TO, TO STORE THE WATER UNDER THE DRIVEWAYS, BUT REALLY, UH, COORDINATE WITH THE LANDSCAPE.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD NEED TO RAISE THAT, UM, YARD ABOUT THREE FEET.
SO WE WILL HAVE A, A, A FULL RETAINING WALL, MOST LIKELY AN ALLEN BLOCK RETAINING WALL, OR IF NEEDED IN, IN CONCRETE.
UH, AND THAT TAKES SOME SPACE.
BUT IN THE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS SITE IS THAT ON, ON THAT SIDE YARD, THAT ENTIRE YARD COULD BE USED FOR PLANTING.
YOU DON'T NEED TO PASS THROUGH THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE HOUSE.
AND, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE RAISING THE GRADE AND YOU'RE BUILDING THE WALL, BUT THEN WE HAVE A RECKA PALMS ON ONE SIDE AND TWO TYPES OF PALM ON THE OTHER, AND THEN SOD, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE ELSE.
SO, UM, I GUESS I'M, I'M ASKING IN A WAY THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR OUR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS TO BE SORT OF RESPONSIBLE, UM, URBAN NEIGHBORS AND, AND TO THINK THROUGH HOW THE LANDSCAPE IS A MATERIAL.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? THE SAME THING WHEN WE SORT OF, UH, TR TRANSFORM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, I KNOW I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS HAVE, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE HE WAS ON VACATIONS AND, AND TRY TO MAKE IT.
BUT I COULD SAY THAT WE, WE COULD PROPOSE TWO LAYERS OF PLANTING WITH
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DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, PERHAPS A SMALL TREE, UM, AND, AND, UH, TALLER POUNDS.SO I, I THINK THE WIDTH WILL NOT ALLOW MORE THAN TWO LAYERS AND TO USE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF, OF THAT, UH, SIDE YARD.
AND I THINK ALSO, I WANNA PIGGYBACK ONE OF MY CONCERNS ON IT TOO.
AND AGAIN, MAYBE THIS IS THE CODE OVERALL, THE BUILDING IN LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTORY, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE AN INCLINE UP.
SO IT, THE HOUSE SEEMS VERY TALL.
MAYBE I'M JUST NOT, IT SEEMS TALLER THAN A LOT OF ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THINKING HEIGHT AND VISIBILITY, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF SHAUNA'S COMMENT, IT'S NOW THE WATER IS GONNA GO LOW.
AND WE DID HEAR FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR WHO SAID SHE HAS AN OLDER HOME.
AND AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN OLDER HOME NEXT TO NEWER HOMES, THE WATER JUST FLOODS THE, THE YARD.
YOU KNOW, DESPITE, SO I, I THINK THAT, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE ALL THESE POOLS.
I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SHAUNA'S COMMENT, LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S BRAIDED, YOU HAVE EVEN MORE ABILITY TO FLOW DOWN.
SO IT, IT JUST BECOMES EVEN MORE OF AN ISSUE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE WATER STAYS ON THE PROPERTY OR ALTERING THE DESIGN, WHETHER IT'S THE DESIGN OR THE LANDSCAPE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.
I, I, I THINK THE HOUSE LOOKS TALLER BECAUSE IT'S SMALL.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF PROPORTIONS.
AND, UM, OVERALL BY DOING THE UNDERSTORY, WE END UP WITH MORE GREEN AREA BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE TRADE OFF.
UH, WHEN THE CIVIL ENGINEERING IS, IS DONE, UH, THERE'S EVEN A FINAL INSPECTION WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEER HAS TO SIGN OFF THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE PER PLANS.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PREPARED IN A WAY THAT THE, THE, THE WATER'S NOT SUPPOSED TO, UM, GO TO THE NEIGHBOR OR TO THE STREET ANYWHERE.
UH, IN, IN MOST CASES, THIS RETAINING WALLS WILL REQUIRE WATERPROOFING TO AVOID ANY SEEPAGE.
BUT I COULD SAY I, UM, I, YOU KNOW, WITH, SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S FALLEN THIS, UH, THAT IT WILL, THE, THE, THE PROPERTY, IF ANYTHING, WILL HOLD MORE WATER THAN THE CURRENT SITUATION.
'CAUSE IT WILL BE RAISED, SO THERE WILL BE MORE DIRT AND THE SPACE IN BETWEEN THE DIRT ABSORBS THE, THE, A GOOD PORTION OF THE WATER.
AND, UM, I, AND SO IN A, IN ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN, BUT IT, IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO BE A BETTER SITUATION THAN, THAN CURRENTLY IS, UNLESS THERE'S A, A, A FLAW THAT THE WATER IS ALLOWED TO, TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THE, THE LOT.
BUT THAT'S, UM, I MEAN, IT'S NOT DESIGNED IN THAT WAY, AND IT'S, IT'S INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
IF IT HASN'T HAP IF IT HAS HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER PROJECT, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A CONSTRUCTION, UH, DEVIATION.
BUT IN, IN, WE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN MOST OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE DONE.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE THOROUGH AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALSO FRESH IN OUR MINDS WHAT RECENTLY HAPPENED.
UM, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION TOO, WITH, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITNESSING WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY FAIRLY RECENTLY.
DOES THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY LOOK AT DESIGNS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY, DO THEY THEN LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE STREET AND WHERE THE DRAINAGES ARE AND ALL OF THAT? I MEAN, WOULD YOU EVER REQUEST THAT AN APPLICANT OR WORK WITH THE CITY TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL DRAIN, UM, OUTSIDE THE HOME, OR THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT? THEY DEFINITELY DO THAT AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
THEY LOOK AT THE, THE, THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THAT THEY DO RETAIN THE WATER ON SITE.
UM, I HAVE HEARD CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS THAT THERE ARE SOME CONSTRUCTION FLAWS AND, AND SOMETIMES THEY, IT DOESN'T WORK THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED TO WORK THE WAY IT LOOKS ON PAPER.
UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO IMPROVE.
UH, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THE, PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS, IS LOOKING AT THE WATER FLOW AND HOW IT'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WATER STAYS ON SITE.
WELL, AND AGAIN, THIS CONCERN ISN'T UNIQUE TO YOUR PROJECT, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE RAMP UP TO THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW RETAINING WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOUSE, BUT LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN ON A 1.2, UM, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE METAL FENCE AND WE HAVE THE, THE OPERABLE GATE, BUT EVERYTHING IS SLOPING DOWN TOWARDS THE STREET.
SO HOW DO WE COLLECT WATER THERE? WELL, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE, UM, A TRENCH DRAIN CO, UH, IN THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS DIRECTED TO THE EXFILTRATION TRENCHES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, PUBLIC WORKS WILL, WILL
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NOT APPROVE IT WITHOUT THAT.SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WHEN THERE IS A, UH, THE SLOPE IS, UH, TOO STEEP, THAT'S USUALLY THE SOLUTION.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THAT SECTION BECAUSE IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A SCHEMATIC.
I GUESS IT'S, IT'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A GRADING PLAN.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S TYPICALLY THE CIVIL, UM, BUT AS THE ARCHITECT OF THE LANDSCAPE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES CREATING THAT AND THE CIVIL IS ENGINEERING IT.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO ASK FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE SO THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND.
I THINK THIS IS A THING, AGAIN, IT'S IN THE CODE, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S INTEGRATED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.
JUST LIKE IN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT'S GONNA BE THERE AND WE'LL GET TO IT.
UM, AND THEN IN HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE, THAT WATER MANAGEMENT IS JUST AN AFTERTHOUGHT AND NOT, NOT INTEGRATED.
BUT YES, UH, THE CIVIL ENGINEERS, THEY, THEY PREPARE A SET OF DRAWINGS ABOUT FIVE SHEETS, AND THERE'S A PERCOLATION TEST DONE TO TEST THE, UM, THE CAPACITY OF THE SOIL TO, TO HOLD THE, THE WATER BASED ON THAT.
THEY DO THE CALCULATIONS AND THEY DESIGN EXFILTRATION TRENCHES, THESE PIPES THAT CAN BE 20 INCHES IN DIAMETER.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENGINEERS BEING ABLE TO ENGINEER.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTEGRATION OF THE DESIGN AND TENT WITH THE SPACES, THE ARCHITECTURE, THE LANDSCAPE, AND THAT ALIGNING WITH WHAT'S BEEN DESIGNED BY THE ENGINEER.
BECAUSE OFTEN IF THAT'S NOT COORDINATED WELL THEN THAT'S WHERE THE FAILURES OCCUR.
WE, WE SEND, UH, THE CIVIL ENGINEER THE LANDSCAPE PLANS AND VICE VERSA, AND, AND CHECK ON THAT.
BUT THAT STARTS AT THIS POINT, FROM THIS POINT ON, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN AT THE DESIGN STAGE.
BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S USUALLY DONE.
UM, AND IT'S VERY HARD TO, TO COORDINATE AND, AND FIT EVERYTHING THE UTILITIES IN, IN TIGHT SPACES, BUT, OKAY.
CAN YOU ALSO ADDRESS, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THE DESIGN, IT SEEMS VERY TALL, AND THIS IS THIS PART OF THE UPDATED CODE THAT WE'RE SEEING.
I MEAN, IT'S 'CAUSE US, WE'RE NOT USED TO, OR I'M NOT USED TO SEEING THE UNDERSTORY.
THE UNDERSTORY SEEMS EXCESSIVELY TALL AND THERE'S A RAMP UP.
AND SO THE OVERALL EFFECT, ALSO THE DESIGN, IT HAS THIS PEDESTAL EFFECT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME REALLY INTERESTING LINES AND RHYTHM AND, AND, AND DETAILS.
UM, BUT THE BASE, THE UNDERSTORY, IT, IT, IT REALLY ENHANCES THE HEIGHT AS OPPOSED TO, UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL, IT'S, IT'S SMALLER, SOMETHING TALLER REALLY STANDS OUT MORE.
SO, SO, SO IT DOES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE, THE EXTRA THREE FEET THAT IS PROVIDED UNDER THE NEW RESILIENCY CODE, UH, FOR UNDERSTORY HOMES.
UH, AND THAT THE INTENT OF THAT REGULATION IS, UH, TO MAKE THAT UNDERSTORY MORE USABLE.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY APPLICANTS WERE SEEKING VARIANCES FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE FEET.
UM, AND SO WHEN THE CODE WAS UPDATED, IT WAS JUST MADE TO GIVE THEM THAT EXTRA THREE FEET WITHOUT HAVING TO SEEK A VARIANCE.
YEAH, I MEAN, I WAS SURPRISED.
I THOUGHT THAT I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CO AND GRANT, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN I DO, THAT THE CODE WAS EITHER YOU HAVE A RAMP UP AND YOU GRADE IT, OR YOU DO AN UNDERSTORY.
AND THIS, I THINK IS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE SEEN THAT'S HAD BOTH.
SO, AND YOU'RE SAYING THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE TO RAMP UP LESS IN AN UNDERSTORY HOME.
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO BRING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR GROUND FLOOR TO THE FUTURE, UH, GRADE.
AND SO GIVEN THAT THIS IS SUNSET ISLAND NUMBER FOUR, THE GRADE IS LOW RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S PLANS TO RAISE THAT GRADE.
UM, SO THEY HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THAT GRADE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU MAY HAVE THAT DISCREPANCY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UM, THAT YOU MAY NOT SEE ON ANOTHER HOME THAT'S ON THE, ON THE MAINLAND OF MIAMI BEACH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
UM, BECAUSE THE GRADE IS GONNA BE HIGHER TO BEGIN WITH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOU MAY SEE THAT DISCREPANCY ON THIS HOME.
SO WORK, WE KEEP BEING IN THIS POSITION WHERE THERE'S, AS WE TRANSITION, THERE'S AWKWARD TRANSITIONS.
AWKWARD TRANSITIONS, YEAH, EXACTLY.
THE, THE GROUND FLOOR, THE MINIMUM HEIGHT OF THE GROUND FLOOR IS DICTATED BY PUBLIC WORKS, DEPENDING HERE ON THE FUTURE CROWN ROAD OF THE STREET, WE ARE AT THE MINIMUM RIGHT NOW.
AND THE GROUND FLOOR HEIGHT, IT'S SHOWN IN THIS SECTION AT SEVEN FEET, FOUR INCHES, WHICH IS VERY LOW.
AND I THINK WE CAN RAISE IT BY HAVING SOME BEAMS EXPOSED, BUT IT WILL NOT BE VERY TALL.
IT WOULD PERHAPS EIGHT FEET, IF THEY WERE GONNA DO A CONVENTIONAL HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THEIR YARD TO FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE, WHICH IS THE MIDPOINT BETWEEN WHAT THE ROAD IS EXPECTED TO BE, AND THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS THE FREEBOARD.
SO THEIR, THEIR YARD WOULD ACTUALLY BE MUCH HIGHER, UM, IF THEY WERE DOING
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A, A, UH, CONVENTIONAL HOME WITHOUT THE UNDERSTORY.WELL, I'VE OFTEN LOOKED AT THE DESIGNS WITH THE UNDERST STORIES OR SEEN HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH UNDERST STORIES, AND THE UNDERSTORY IS VERY LOW.
AND YOU THINK, OKAY, IF SOMETHING'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THE CAR THAT THEY'RE PARKING UNDER THERE, THAT'S VERY OBVIOUSLY GONNA FLOOD GONNA FLOW.
SO, UM, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST EVOLVING.
AND I, I MEAN, I ALSO THINK TOO, IT, IT, THERE'S ALSO A DESIGN COMPONENT.
I KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH YOUR DESIGN BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DESIGN CHOICE HERE WITH THESE VERY HEAVY ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE VERTICALS.
UM, THERE'S A BIT OF A SORT OF FUTURISTIC, BRUTALIST ELEMENT TO THE DESIGN, UM, WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING.
AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ACO LIKE THOSE DIAGONALS REALLY DO OFFSET IT, AND IT GIVES IT AN INTERESTING RHYTHM AND A LIGHTNESS.
UM, BUT YOU'RE, BUT THIS PEDESTAL IS VERY HEAVY.
UM, I ALSO KEEP THINKING ABOUT THE STAIRCASE THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF STAIRS.
AND I GUESS IT'S CREATED FROM THE THING.
DOES THE, I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK, DOES THE HOUSE HAVE AN ELEVATOR OR, I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T MIND WALKING UPSTAIRS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS THE EXCEPTION RATHER THAN THE RULE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE SORT OF LIVABILITY OF THESE HOMES.
YES, THERE IS AN ELEVATOR AND THE NUMBER, UH, THE, THE STAIR, I, I BELIEVE WE COULD NOT DO A, A LANDING IN THIS STAIR BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS OR THE OF THE CONSTRAINTS.
BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN HERE IN SECTION, BUT I'M, I'M COUNTING PERHAPS 16 STEPS.
WELL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE GROUND FLOOR IS NOT VERY HIGH, SO IT'S NOT, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF, IT'LL NOT BE A SUPER HIGH STARING.
AND THEN BEHIND, UM, I'M LOOKING AT ONE OF THE RENDERINGS IN, IN THE FRONT ELEVATION THERE IS, UM, THE SECTION BETWEEN THE CUTOUT FOR THE, THE CARPORT AND THE STAIRS.
IS IT, WHAT SORT OF MATERIAL? IS IT THE WALL JUST SOLID, OR IS THERE SOME SORT OF MATERIAL THERE? UH, AT THIS MOMENT IT'S, IT'S SOLID STOCK.
SO EVERYTHING LOOKS MONOLITHIC.
PERHAPS IT COULD BE CHANGED TO WOOD, SOMETHING.
'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED WITH THE LANDSCAPING LOOKS NICE WHEN YOU PLANT IT, AND THEN IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON THAT MAINTAINS IT.
AND THEN YOU END UP, I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE SECTION OF PLAIN WHITE WALL.
UM, IF THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THERE AND ALSO VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT GETS PLANTED, UH, YES, WE COULD ADD SOME DETAIL IN, IN THIS CASE, THE, THE UPPER LEVELS HAVE MORE ARTICULATIONS THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE BASE.
NO, I, UNDER, I, I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND THE GESTURE ARTISTICALLY.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD CHOICE, BUT PRACTICALLY THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
I DON'T KNOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? OKAY.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I'M, YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION TOO, AGAIN, RELATING TO FLOODING.
SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THESE HOME DESIGNS THAT DO HAVE MANY MORE WATER FEATURES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR, OR ANY, ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, OVER NOW THAT THERE ARE HEAVY RAINS AND I THINK HEAVY RAINS ARE GONNA BE REGULAR, UM, DOING SOMETHING.
'CAUSE NOW WE'RE ADDING LARGE BODIES OF WATER TO THESE PROPERTIES AND MANAGING THAT.
UM, THAT, THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, TO ANY SIGNIFICANT LEVEL.
UH, PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
UH, THE, THEY SHOULD BE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT IN THEIR STORM WATER PLAN, MAKING SURE WHEN THAT OVERFLOWS, IT'S NOT PERME, IT'S NOT A PERMEABLE AREA.
SO THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, IN THEIR, IN THEIR WATER FLOWS ON THE, ON THE SITE.
UH, BUT MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT A LITTLE CLOSER TO SEE IF, UH, IF IT IS HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON, ON THE WAY THE WATER FLOWS IN THE, DURING A FLOOD EVENT.
WELL, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GETTING THESE REALLY HEAVY RAINS THAT SUDDENLY ARE UPON US AND EVERYBODY HAS POOLS, AND AGAIN, WE'RE HIGH, WE'RE LOW.
'CAUSE SOMEBODY CAN'T GET OUT IN THE RAINSTORM TO, OR EVEN, WHERE'S THE WATER GONNA GO IF YOU START TO DRAIN THE POOL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RAINSTORM? MM-HMM.
WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THESE HOMES THAT AREN'T EVEN HERE TO DO IT.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING, AND IT SEEMS TO BE THIS NEW TREND TO HAVE LOTS OF WATER FEATURES IN THE SIDE AND BACKYARD.
THAT ALSO LET'S PLAN FOR THAT IN SOME WAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING A LOT OF HOMES THAT HAVE, UH, THIS ONE, NOT, NOT, NOT THE STANDARD POOL IN THE REAR YARD THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE SWIMMING IN, BUT A WATER FEATURE THAT RUNS ALONG THE WHOLE SIDE SETBACK.
WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE OF THAT.
SO YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MIAMI OF BEACH FANTASY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, I UNDERSTAND WHY, AND AGAIN, THIS ISN'T SPECIFIC FOR YOU, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT GENERAL PRECEDENT.
BUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CAUGHT UP WITH BOTH WHAT PEOPLE WANT
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AND WHAT MOTHER NATURE IS WROUGHT UPON US.WELL, AND EVERY PLACE THAT WE HAVE THAT WATER FEATURE IS A PLACE THAT'S NOT ABSORBING WATER.
YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, I KNOW AGAIN, THAT THERE'S THE CODE AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AS OPEN SPACE AND HAVE TO HAVE AS PERMEABLE AND ALL THAT.
BUT I, I, I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING HOW DO WE AUGMENT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS WE APPROVE THESE DESIGNS? 'CAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO USE THAT INTEGRATED AS A PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE DESIGN WHERE THESE ARE DESIGNED TO CATCH RAINWATER.
BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE DECORATIVE.
IF IT, IF IT WERE DESIGNED AS A BIOSWALE, IT WOULD HAVE A, A BE A BENEFIT FOR STORM WATER.
NOW THEY'RE JUST PRETTY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN SOME WAY.
OR IT GOES TO YOUR POINT ABOUT INTEGRATING ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENT INTO THE AVERAGE DESIGN AS A WAY TO BE A MORE SUSTAINABLE CITY.
WELL, I'M SUGGESTING GREAT IDEAS.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR I'LL ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSED? SURE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE DRB 24 DASH 1 0 0 4 SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. DINGER FOR A SECOND BY MR. SHELDON.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE, DRB 24 DASH 10 0 9.
NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA, DRB 24 DASH 0 0 9 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN APPROVAL FOR EXTERIOR DESIGN MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 4TH, 2024 MEETING.
OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.
UH, THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN 1999 FOR, IT WAS, UH, IT'S A SIX, UH, AND SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND A PUBLIC PARKING STRUCTURE WITH GROUND LEVEL RETAIL.
UH, THAT DESIGN WAS FURTHER UPDATED IN 2015 AND AGAIN IN 2016, UH, WITH SOME, SOME MUD ALTERATIONS TO THE FACADE.
UH, THE BUILDING IS KNOWN AS THE LINCOLN, UM, THE PARKING GARAGE IS, UH, HAS 709 SPACES, AND THEN IT'S A SIX STORY MIXED USE OFFICE BUILDING, UH, WITH 43,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND LEVEL RETAIL SPACE AND 118,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.
UH, THE BUILDING FRONT 17TH STREET, UH, AND GOES ALL THE WAY TO LINCOLN LANE NORTH.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY ENCOMPASSES MOST OF THAT BLOCK.
THERE IS A, THERE IS SOME, UM, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF THAT BLOCK.
UM, IT IS LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
IT'S PART OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, UH, THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS.
AND THEY HAVE A GROUND YEAR, A GROUND LEASE OF 50 YEARS WITH SOME EXTENSIONS AVAILABLE.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT, UH, IN THIS CASE IS A, IS PROPOSING AN EXTERIOR RENOVATION OF ALL THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING PROGRAMMING ITSELF DOES NOT CHANGE.
THERE'S NO REAL INTERIOR CONSTRUCTION.
I'M SURE THEY'LL BE UPDATING THE INTERIOR, BUT, BUT REALLY, THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING IS, IS STAYING THE SAME.
UM, SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A NEW SKIN.
THE SKIN WILL BE OF A LIMESTONE VENEER TO CLA THE FACADES ON 17TH STREET AND MICHIGAN AVENUE.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING SOME, UH, HORIZONTAL BANDING, UM, UH, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR SOME CONTRAST.
THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING SOME SLIM VERTICAL LIGHT SCONCES, UM, INTEGRATED BETWEEN THE BANDING OF THE FACADE.
UH, THE, UM, EYEBROW DETAILS ON THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING WILL BE REMOVED, AND THEY'LL BE REPLACED WITH A PATTERN OF ALTERNATING AWNINGS AND CONCRETE PLANT, UH, LANDSCAPE PLANTERS.
UM, SIMILAR FACADE TREATMENTS WILL BE APPLIED TO THE GARAGE.
UH, THE GARAGE WILL BE CHANGED TO A WARMER COLOR.
UM, AND THEY'LL ALSO INCORPORATE THAT VENEER CLADDING AND, AND, UH, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE REARRANGING THE BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS SOME CONCRETE PLA UH, PLANTERS.
THEY'LL BE REARRANGING THEM, UH, TO HAVE A MORE, UH, A MORE, UH, UNIFORM, UH, UH, LAYOUT OF THE, OF THOSE PLANTERS.
UM, THE LAND, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE THESE PLANS LAST MONTH.
THEY DID MAKE SOME UPDATES TO THE PLANS, UH, BETWEEN LAST MONTH AND THIS MONTH, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE CORNER, UH, FEATURES AND ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL, UH, TO THE MECHANICAL SCREENING ON THE, UH, IN THE UPPER LEVELS OF THE BUILDING.
UM, I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES TODAY THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF THE BOARD WANTS TO ACCEPT THOSE UPDATES AND, AND APPROVE THOSE, UH, BECAUSE THEY DO DIFFER SLIGHTLY FROM WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
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BISCAY BOULEVARD FROM BUR FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAP, REPRESENTING BLACK LINE INVESTMENT GROUP.UH, AS RO MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT OUR CLIENT RECENTLY PURCHASED THE GROUND LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED MOVING, UH, TOWARDS RENOVATING THIS BUILDING AND GIVING IT A, A BIG COSMETIC UPGRADE.
UM, WE'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE OF A, OF, OF MANY COSMETIC UPGRADES THAT THEY WANNA MAKE TO THE BUILDING.
UH, BUT IT IS, AS LIO MENTIONED, A SKIN OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CHANGING THE HEIGHT OR THE FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING, BUT JUST, UH, BRINGING IT A MORE MODERN OR A WARMER DESIGN.
UM, AND SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE, THE APPLICANT IS REALLY, REALLY EXCITED AND ENERGIZED ABOUT.
AND, UM, SO MUCH SO THAT WE CAN'T JUST GET HIM TO STOP DESIGNING AFTER WE SUBMIT.
UM, SO WE, WE'VE CONTINUED LAST MONTH, UH, TO ADD SOME CHANGES TO THE DESIGN.
AND JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING, UM, I, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH YOU GUYS' DISCUSSION EARLIER, WE WANNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE ACTUALLY INTEND TO BUILD.
AND OUR CLIENT IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
HE'S MAKING SOME TWEAKS, UH, CONSTANTLY.
SO WHAT WE'LL SHOW YOU TODAY AS A MINOR HOUSEKEEPING MATTER IS A COMPARISON OF WHAT WE SUBMITTED, UM, VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY.
AND IT'S JUST A MINOR CHANGE ON THE GARAGE.
UM, THE TOP LEVEL OF THE GARAGE, WE'RE JUST BRINGING DOWN THAT PARAPET WALL, UM, TO WHERE IT EXISTS CURRENTLY.
UM, I'LL LET JOSE GOMEZ, OUR ARCHITECT, UM, AND I SHOULD INTRODUCE OUR TEAM, JOSE GOMEZ, OUR DESIGN ARCHITECT, CARLOS RODRIGUEZ, OUR DESIGNER, AND ANDREA MUNOZ, OUR PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE MATERIAL SAMPLES TODAY FOR THE LIMESTONE VENEER THAT'S GOING ON IN THE BUILDING AND THE GARAGE SCREENING.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THOSE HERE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PASS THOSE AROUND IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL CALL UP THE DIGITAL PRESENTATION.
AND JOSE, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH JUST THAT INITIAL HOUSEKEEPING MATTER AS COMPARING WHAT WE SUBMITTED AS PART OF OUR FINAL SUBMITTAL AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TODAY? GOOD MORNING, JOSE GOMEZ, BEEZ ARCHITECTS WITH OFFICER 81 0 1 BISQUE BOULEVARD, EXCUSE ME, MY SORE THROAT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN AND THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, ALL IT IS, IS THAT THAT PARAPET ON THE PARKING GARAGE WAS DESIGNED, UH, ONE STORY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO STRUCTURALLY, UH, WAS A CONCERN.
SO WE BROUGHT DOWN THE, UH, PARAPET, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NEW DESIGN BASICALLY KEEPS THE, UH, THE SAME SPIRIT OF THE DESIGN.
IT IS JUST THAT THE PARAPET WAS LOWER.
SO YOU SEE ONE BAND ALONG THE VERY TOP THAT WAS REMOVED, AND NOW THE DESIGN IS WRAPPED BY THE, UH, METAL SCREENING.
SO IT'S, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE, ACTUALLY REDUCING THE INTENSITY OF THE BUILDING, MAKING IT, UH, MAKING IT MORE LIKE, UH, WHAT IT IS TODAY.
UM, I'M THE A OR FOR THE ARC, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY, UH, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OR, UH, THE DESIGNER IS CARLOS, WHO'S HERE.
SO I'M JUST GOTTA BE VERY BRIEF ABOUT THIS.
SO THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING, I'M SURE WILL VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR SINCE 2000.
THIS IS PART OF, UH, THIS IS A BUILDING THAT WE'VE, UH, WORKED ON, UH, PROBABLY DURING THE TIME OF THE BUILDING THREE TIMES.
UH, THE LUCKY STRIKES, I'M SURE YOU ALL, UH, REMEMBER USED TO BE AT THE BOTTOM.
AND NOW WE HAVE WILLIAMS SONOMA, UH, THAT WE FEEL THAT THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE BUILDING ARE SORT OF, THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE, UH, FACADE OF THIS TWO BUILDING.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE PRIMARY REASON TO, UH, REDESIGN THE, THE SKIN OF THE BUILDING TO TIE TOGETHER THE, UM, UH, THE, THAT DISCONNECT THAT YOU HAVE TODAY WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS.
UM, AND, UM, THIS IS JUST A DISCIPLINE SHOW YOU THE, UH, THE, UH, SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS, IS BASICALLY A CITY BLOCK.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, IT'S, IT'S BISECTED BY AN, AN INTERIOR, UM, UH, A DRIVEWAY, UH, WHICH COMES OUT ON LINCOLN LANE.
AND, UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU, CARLOS IS GONNA SHOW YOU HOW WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THIS WHOLE BLOCK AS ONE INTEGRATED BUILDING RATHER THAN MULTIPLE PIECES.
I'M THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCALOR STUDIO.
I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY TO PRESENT YOU OUR LATEST DESIGN, UM, WHICH WE, WE BELIEVE IS GOING TO HELP AND ASSIST IN THE, UH, PIVOTAL ROLE OF THE REVITALIZATION OF LINCOLN ROAD.
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BUILDING, UM, DESIGNED BLENDS THE TIMELESS CHARM OF PARISIAN ARCHITECTURE AND MINIMALIST NATURE TRANSPIRED ETHOS OF JAPANESE, UM, DESIGN, CREATING A SPACE THAT'S BOTH ELEGANT AND SERENE.THE BUILDING FACADE SHOWCASES IN CAPRIC AND DETAILING WITH BEVELED STONE CLADDING ON THE FACADE.
AND A CHAMPAGNE PATTERN, UH, EXTERIOR COMPLIMENTED BY FLORAL PATTERNS.
THAT TOUCH OF GREENERY AND VIBRANCY INSIDE, UM, ADDS ITS SOFTNESS TO THE, THE DESIGN.
WE EMPHASIZE JAPANESE SIMPLICITY IN THE CLEAN LINES, OPEN SPACES AND NATURAL MATERIAL LIKE WOODSTONE, CREATING A TRANQUIL ENVIRONMENT TO ENSURE THE BUILDING SEAMLESSLY, UM, INTEGRATES INTO THE BLOCK.
UM, PARTICULARLY ON 17TH STREET, WHICH IS A MAIN APPROACH.
WE'VE ADDED PLANTERS ALONG THE EDGE TO CREATE, UM, A BUFFER, A GREEN BUFFER.
THIS SOFTENS THE TRANSITION FROM THE STREET BUILDING, ENHANCING THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE AND THE MAIN BUILDING.
BY USING CONSISTENT MATERIAL DESIGN LANGUAGE, WE'VE CREATED A COHESION IN THIS MATERIAL BY CONNECTING AND ENHANCING BOTH AESTHETICALLY AND FUNCTIONALITY.
OUR PROJECT INTRODUCES NEW OFFICE DESIGN CONCEPT, WHICH THE OWNER CALLS CLASS X, THIS TYPOLOGY REIMAGINES OFFICE ENVIRONMENT, MAKING IT MORE RESIDENTIAL, COMMUNI, COMMUNITY ORIENTED, FLEXIBLE WORKSPACES, CAMINO AREAS, AND HOLISTIC AMENITIES, TRANSFORMING IT INTO A DYNA DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BUILDING WILL SET THE STANDARD OF OFFICE DESIGN AND SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY OF LINCOLN ROAD.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN BRINGING THIS VISION TO POTENTIALLY THE LIFE.
SO GUIDING YOU THROUGH THE DESIGN AS YOU SEE HERE, UM, THE, THE BUILDING HAS ALWAYS HAD THIS KINDA FOREIGN NATURE BETWEEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND THE FRONT FACADE.
UM, THIS DISCONNECT ALLOWED THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFUSING.
IT FELT VERY HOSPITAL-LIKE IN A WAY.
UM, AND THE IRREGULARITY IN THE PLANTING, UM, ONE ALLOWED A UNSUCCESSFUL CONDITION WHERE THE PLANT MATERIAL NEVER SURVIVED.
UM, WE WANT TO PREVENT THAT AND CREATING A MORE REGULAR APPROACH TO THE PLANTING BEDS.
UM, THE OWNERSHIP HAS A $5,000 ALLOWANCE A MONTH TO MAINTAIN THE FLORALS, SO THAT, UNLIKE CERTAIN BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH, UM, SUDDENLY YOU APPROVE SOMETHING AND THEN IN THE INTERIM IT CHANGES AND THE LOOK CHANGES AND IT'S NOT TRULY WHAT YOU APPROVED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING HAS AN ICONIC IDENTITY WHERE IT FEELS THE SAME TODAY AS YOU APPROVE IT, AND IT FEELS THE SAME IN 10 YEARS, AS PREVIOUSLY SAID IN THIS FORUM.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE SCREENING OF CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE, ARE AGAINST THE FACADE, WHICH IS, AS YOU SEE HERE IN THIS CONDITION.
UM, THIS IS THE STAIRCASE SHAFT, WHICH WE WANTED IT TO BE.
INSTEAD OF A STEPO CONDITION, WE WANT IT TO INTEGRATE IT AND BRING A PART OF THE FABRIC.
AS YOU SEE IN THE FRONTAL PART OF THIS RENDERING, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING TAKES UP THAT KIND OF SECTOR.
SO THE BUILDING ALLOWS FROM EVERY ANGLE TO BE KIND OF SEEN, UM, IN A SPECIAL WAY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S, OH, THAT'S IT.
UM, WHERE'S THE SAMPLE HERE? OH, SORRY.
SO I'VE SEEN HERE YOU HAVE THE, THE CHAMPAGNE COLOR, UM, FACADE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, CAN YOU HOLD IT UP SO WE CAN SEE IT? YES.
YOU HAVE THE LIMESTONE WITH A HONEYCOMB, UM, BASE TO PREVENT WEIGHT, UM, AND FOR IT TO BE ADJUSTED SECURELY TO PREVENT, UH, IT FROM BEING PROJECTILE ON THIS BUILDING STRUCTURE, IS THAT CLIPPING ON RIGHT OVER THE EXISTING CONCRETE? CORRECT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE METAL CONDITION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DONE IN ONE OF THESE CHAMPAGNE COLORS.
WE WANT IT TO BE A NATURAL FINISH.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A JARRING, UH, DISCONNECT WHERE SOME METALLIC THING BECOMES THIS EYESORE.
WE WANT IT TO KIND OF LEAD AND CREATE THIS ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE BETWEEN THE LIMESTONE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT, AND WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND BOARD DISCUSSION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK?
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ANYBODY AVAILABLE ONLINE? DO YOU HAVE NO HANDS RAISE? NO, NO HANDS.I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COHESIVENESS AT THE STREET LEVEL.
CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING THERE? OR IS IT PAINTING, YOU KNOW, A CONSISTENT COLOR? BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE SUGGESTING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO OPENINGS.
SO WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE OPENING CONDITION, WHAT WE ARE, UM, INTRODUCING.
IT'S MORE PLANT MATERIAL I'VE SEEN IN, UM, THE RENDERING.
UM, IS THERE A WAY TO, AT THE STREET LEVEL SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, EXACTLY.
THERE'LL BE PLANTERS THAT MAKE IT PLANTERS AND CONTINUOUS.
AND THEN HOW ARE YOU TREATING THE, SO AND IS EVERY SURFACE, LIKE, ARE THE COLUMNS GETTING COLL CLA WITH THE, SO AS YOU SEE HERE, UM, IN THIS, UH, RENDERING, THE C COLLIDED MATERIAL OCCURS EVERYWHERE.
AS YOU SEE THE, LET ME GO BACK TO THE BUILDING.
SO STUCCO, UH, STRAIGHT THROUGH, RIGHT? SO THE, THE LIMESTONE VENEER WILL BE CONSISTENT FROM THE CORNER ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE.
WE, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS ALMOST MONUMENTAL APPROACH TO THIS BUILDING.
THIS BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF ODDBALL IN A SENSE, A STUCCO WONDERLAND, WE WANT IT SOFTEN THAT, UH, CONDITION WE WANT.
UM, EVEN IN, IN THE ROOFTOP YOU HAVE THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WAS HIDDEN BEHIND THIS GINORMOUS FIN.
UH, WE SWITCHED THAT FIN AND MADE IT THIS ICONIC PIECE OF ART WITHIN THAT DESIGN.
AND WHAT IS THAT THIN CONSTRUCTED OUT OF? THAT'S A STUCCO.
IT'S A, IT'S THERE LARGE WALL.
WELL, AND NOW TELL ME HOW YOU'RE ADAPTING IT.
IT HAS A METAL CLADDED FINISH, UM, TO CREATE THE SAME, UM, AS YOU SEE IN THE PROPOSED LIGHT SCONCES.
UM, THE LOWER NUMBER SIX, IT'S A TRIANGULATED CONDITION THAT ALLOWS LIGHT TO FILTER THROUGH TO CREATE THIS ALMOST, UM, LIGHT CONDITION.
SO YOU'RE REMOVING THE HORIZONTAL STRIPS THAT ARE ON IT.
BUT ARE YOU ALSO CREATING, INTRODUCING A FACETED STUCCO, OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING JUST LIGHTING IS GOING TO PRODUCE THAT EFFECT ON A SMOOTH STUCCO SURFACE? UH, LET ME, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THE, THE, UH, PARAPET TODAY IS A CONCRETE PARA BED.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CLADDING IT WITH A METAL MATERIAL THAT IS PLEATED AS SHOWN, AND IT'S GONNA BE LIT SO THAT THE LIGHTS, THE FACETED METAL MATERIAL.
AND THAT COLOR IS THE CHAMPAGNE COLOR, WHICH IS TYING OKAY.
WITH THE METAL AROUND THE CAR AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA UPLIGHT IT.
BUT THE SCREEN ITSELF DOES HAVE SOME SORT OF TEXTURE TO IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT THE, THAT THE LIGHTS ARE JUST GONNA ENHANCE DURING NIGHT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT DURING THE DAY, YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE A TEXTURE.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY FACETING THE MATERIAL.
IT'S METAL PANEL'S ON TOP OF IT.
IT'S A FOLDING METAL PANEL THAT IS CORRUGATED THAT HAS TO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, WAS IT CORRUGATED OR IS IT ACTUALLY A CUSTOM FOLDED? IT HAS BLEEDS.
IT'S PLEADED, IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S A PLEATED SYSTEM.
IT'S ALL, IT'S SO DURING THE DAY YOU WILL SEE THE SHADOWS IN BETWEEN EACH.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT THAT MATERIAL IS.
BUT IF IT'S A FOLDED METAL PANEL THAT'S A CURVED SURFACE, SO THEN YOU GET, YOU KNOW, NON PLANER SURFACES.
YOU GUYS HAVEN'T PICKED A MATERIAL OR MANUFACTURE FOR THAT YET, CORRECT? NOT YET.
AND THEN THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT THAT PARTICULAR METAL PANEL APPEARS ON BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT'S LIKE THE ACCENT MARKER UP THERE.
WE WANT IT TO BE TRULY ABOUT THE LIGHTING, UM, AND THE SHADOW PLAY.
UM, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A JARRING CONDITION LIKE THAT GOLD FINISH THAT THE METAL CLAD HAS.
THE WINDOWS ARE STAYING AS IS.
RIGHT? SO WE ARE ADDING A FILM, UH, RIGHT NOW THE WINDOWS ARE THIS SHARP BLUE, WE WANT TO SOFTEN THE BLUE AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHAMPAGNE.
AND THEIR FRAMES ARE GONNA STAY AND THE FRAMES ARE GONNA BE WRAPPED AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE WRAPPED YEAH.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE THE CHAMPAGNE METAL.
WE WANT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE METAL CLOTTING TO THE METAL FRAMES,
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ALL TO BE ONE UNIN LINE.AND THEN CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PAGE 12, THE TREATMENT AT THE GROUND FLOOR.
IT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S APPLIED TO THE WINDOWS OR IF WE'RE JUST, IT'S BEING ILLUMINATED SO WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING ON THE INTERIOR, BUT UM, THERE'S A SORT OF A VERTICAL METAL THAT'S JUST A PART OF THE INTERIORS THAT'S NOT, UH, CONSIDERED OR AN EFFECT THAT IS IN THE EXTERIOR, IN THE IMAGE.
IT LOOKS LIKE ALMOST LIKE A BLACK METAL FENCE WHERE THE BOTTOM CORNER THERE AND AROUND IT LOOKS LIKE WRAPPED AROUND THE FIRST FLOOR.
YEAH, THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD AS WELL.
AND I GUESS I WANNA SAY, I THINK IN THE IMAGE IT'S WORKING, UM, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING BUILDING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FRAMES ARE SORT OF, THIS ARE WHITE.
AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I APPRECIATE THE, UM, VENEER AND THAT COLOR PALETTE AND THE IDEA OF IT BEING NEUTRAL AND TYING THINGS TOGETHER.
BUT I WOULD HIGHLY DISCOURAGE, UM, CHAMPAGNE FRAMES.
LIKE IF YOU DID A DARK BRONZE, IF YOU'RE WRAPPING THE WINDOWS AT THAT STREET LEVEL AND AT THE WINDOWS, THAT'S A MOMENT WHERE YOU CAN GET THAT BIT OF CONTRAST.
IT'S STILL DARK, IT'S A DARK NEUTRAL, AND THEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF SHADOW PLAY BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADDING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN INCH OF THE PANEL, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A JAM AND DEPTH.
BUT I THINK, AND THE RENDERING SHOWS THOSE FRAMES DARKER.
AND I THINK IF WE WERE TO SEE THEM LIGHT IN HERE, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD LIKE IT.
I THINK IT FEELS, UH, AND THEN YOUR VERTICAL LIGHTS, I GUESS I CAN'T, THEY DON'T EXIST NOW, RIGHT? NO.
YEAH, WE'RE ADDING THEM AND THEY LOOK DARK.
BUT WHAT COLOR ARE YOU PROPOSING THEM AS? SO, UM, THE RENDERING AS YOU SEE, IS AN, UH, LATER TIME IN THE DAY.
SO YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF DAWN APPROACHING THE BUILDING, UM, IN THE DIFFERENT, UH, POINTS OF THE BUILDING.
THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE BRONZE, UM, THE LIGHTING CONDITION.
SO THE DECORATIVE LIGHTING BECOMES AN ACCESSORY TO THE BUILDING AND THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE, WAS THAT JUST FOR THE RHYTHM OR WAS THERE YES.
SO, UM, AS YOU SEE IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, SLIDE, HOW DO YOU GO UP? IT'S NOT THAT.
UM, THERE'S THIS KIND OF IRREGULARITY IN THE PATTERN.
YOU SEE IT IN THESE KIND OF BREAKS HERE.
UM, WE DIDN'T WANNA MISS OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY AND JUST CLA IT WITH JUST A PIECE OF LIMESTONE.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A SPECIAL MOMENT WITHIN THE DESIGN.
UM, A MOMENT FOR YOU TO HAVE A BREATHER AND HAVE, UH, LIGHTING CHANGE THE BUILDING, UH, FROM DAY TO NIGHT.
I THINK IT'S AT RISK OF FEELING OUTDATED VERY QUICKLY IN A, IN A WAY THAT SOME OF THE APPLIED, UM, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FEEL OUTDATED TO THE EXISTING DESIGN.
BUT I THOUGHT OF YOU, WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE INTENTION OF THE SCONCES.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU ALWAYS BRING UP.
I'M HO THE CONVERSATION, THE CURVED, UM, THE EXISTING FORM OF THE BUILDING AS IT ADDRESSES THE STREET CORNER NUMBER FOUR, I BELIEVE, UH, OH, THE FABRIC AWNINGS.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT THEN? WHAT PART IS FABRIC IN, AND I, I DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT'S PROPOSED, THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
SO, UM, SEEN HERE, UM, THE BUILDING, UH, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN TAKES IT STEP BACK AND YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF JARRING POINT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SOFTEN THAT CONDITION.
SO BY ADDING THE PLANTING BEDS, IT PROJECTS THE BUILDING FORWARD.
WE DON'T WANT THE KIND OF TO CREATE A SOLUTION AND THEN CREATE A PROBLEM.
SO THE AWNINGS, UM, AS SEEN IN, OH, SORRY.
SO YOU'RE ALTERNATING, UH, NEW PLANTING BEDS.
AND THEN THESE FABRIC AWNINGS THAT NEGOTIATE THE CONDITION.
I WONDER AGAIN, I, I THINK THE GOAL OF SORT OF COHESIVENESS IS A NOVEL OR, UH, IS A GREAT ONE.
AND, UM, WE COULD DEFINITELY USE THAT.
I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY, THOUGH, TO TIE THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE WITH THE FABRIC AWNINGS TO THE SAME FACETED METAL THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AS THIS SORT OF FEATURE, YOU
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KNOW, AT THE ROOF.I, I THINK WHAT IS SUCCESSFUL ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT JUST SORT OF CONTINUES THE LINE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR.
I KNOW, I, I REALLY LIKE THIS REDESIGN AND I, I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE CORNER AND THE FLUTING.
UM, AND I THINK THAT I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT IT WAS CANVAS.
SO, OR YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF AWNING MATERIAL.
SO YOU COULD CALL THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST AN EXTE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BUILT IN EXTENSION, WHATEVER THE PLANTER WERE MADE OF, IT WAS THE SAME MATERIAL.
AND I THINK THAT HAVING THAT CONTINUOUS LINE ENHANCES THE EFFECT BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY CALLING ATTENTION TO THIS CORNER, WHICH RIGHT NOW THIS BUILDING IS AWKWARD.
BUT THAT DIAGONAL, THERE ARE SOME REALLY INTERESTING FEATURES THAT WITH, I THINK YOUR REDESIGN LOOK MUCH BETTER.
BUT I WONDER IF YOUR HESITATION, BUT IT DOES MAKE ME A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THAT MATERIAL IS NOT A PERMANENT MATERIAL.
THAT IT'S, IT'S THIS FABRIC AS OPPOSED TO STUCCO OR, OR WHATEVER IS NORMALLY USED JUST FOR DURABILITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF, I DUNNO, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SORT OF GETTING AT THE MATERIAL CHOICE? YEAH, I GUESS.
LIKE WHY NOT JUST, I AM ASSUMING IT'S A COST DECISION THAT YOU DIDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE OTHER THREE LEVELS FOLLOW THE CURVE OUT OF NO, IT WAS A DESIGN.
I THINK THAT, UM, TOO MUCH IS TOO MUCH.
AND WHEN YOU OVER, UM, DESIGN A BUILDING, IT COULD LOSE ITS CONCEPT.
WHAT WE WANT IS THAT SHIFT IN MATERIAL.
WE WANTED THAT KIND OF, UH, MONUMENTAL APPROACH THAT PARISIAN ARCHITECTURE HAS, WHERE YOU HAVE AN AWNING INTRODUCING INTO A LIMESTONE, INTO A BEVELING.
AND THEN THAT KIND OF AMALGAMATION, THAT UNION BETWEEN ALL THOSE TEXTURES CREATES THIS BEAUTIFUL LINE WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A MASSIVE BLOCK BUILDING, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME ROMANTICISM IN THAT CORNER.
SO THE REASON FOR THE AWNING, IT IS A UMBRELLA FABRIC.
IT IS A DURABLE MATERIAL, UH, FOR EXTERIOR USE.
UM, THE CONCEPT IS LOST WITHOUT IT BEING PERFECT.
SO THERE IS, UH, AN ALLOCATED SUM TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS KEPT UP.
THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT BECOMES YELLOW AND BECOMES A EYESORE WITHIN THE CORNER.
I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED WITH IT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE SUN, IT'S GONNA, I KNOW SOME UMBRELLA IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT THAT, BUT I, I I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCEPT AND LIKE I SAID, I AGREE WITH THE DESIGN, BUT I THINK THE MATERIAL CHOICE IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR THE CONDITIONS.
I THINK IF THAT WAS STUCCO OR WHATEVER SORT OF MATERIAL IT NEEDS TO BE, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD LOSE THAT EFFECT.
I DON'T THINK THAT EVERY SURFACE NEEDS A DECORATIVE ELEMENT TO IT.
AND I THINK ALSO WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO ME ABOUT THIS CORNER IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ELEMENT ON THE ROOF AND THIS DIAGONAL LINE THAT'S BRINGING YOUR, YOUR EYE TOWARDS IT.
AND SO I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU MAKE IT NOT A CANVAS MATERIAL, NOT UMBRELLA, I THINK IT WILL JUST BE A MORE SUCCESSFUL, SUSTAINABLE BUILDING IN THE LONG RUN WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH YOUR VISION OF THE DESIGN.
LIKE, I THINK IT'S JUST ONE SMALL ELEMENT AND A VERY WELL DESIGNED WHOLE.
SO, SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, WE, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO A CONDITION REQUIRING MAINTENANCE OF, OF THOSE CANVAS AWNINGS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SOLD ON THE CANVAS.
LIKE, UH, THE OWNER REALLY WANTS THE CUT THE CANVAS AWNINGS.
AND I THINK IT'S HEARKENING BACK TO, LIKE YOU THINK OF THE BETSY HOTEL AND CERTAIN AWNINGS OF LIKE, LIKE THAT, THAT ICONIC AWNING ARRIVAL SEQUENCE.
BUT NO ONE'S REALLY GONNA READ IT.
AND WHAT ABOUT JUST AT THE GROUND FLOOR? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S ODD.
LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION IS ALL OF, SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF ALL ABOUT, ABOUT COHESIVENESS, BUT THEN THIS ISN'T COHESIVE WHEN YOU ARE ALTERNATING THESE MATERIALS.
I, I MEAN, I COULD, THE WAY THAT IT'S AT THE GROUND FLOOR, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO HAVE A RHYTHM THAT COULD EXPAND, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE STREET, BUT IT, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT NEEDS MAINTAINED AND FEELS DIFFERENT AND ISN'T REALLY TRYING TO PROVIDE A, A SORT OF A SLEEK NEW PRESENCE ON THIS BUILDING.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BE VERY HARD TO CLEAN ON THAT UPPER FLOOR.
I, SO WE CAN JUST DO THE GROUND FLOOR AWNING, IF THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE.
AND I THINK WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA SEE ON THE UPPER LEVELS.
IS IT, WELL, WHAT MATERIAL IS THE, THE ONES THE SHOULD THE SAME AS THE OTHER ONES AS THE MATERIAL MATERIAL PLANTING? WHAT ME WITH THE BALCONIES, WHAT ARE THE, WITH THE PLANTINGS, WHAT ARE THOSE MADE OF? UM, THAT IS MADE OUT OF A,
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UM, STUCCO.UM, WITH A ROAMING CLAY FINISH.
I THINK ALSO THERE'S A CERTAIN SLEEKNESS TO THIS BUILDING AND USING THE CANVAS AWNINGS INTERRUPTS THAT.
WOULD YOU, UH, HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH IF IT WAS A METAL, UM, FINISH? UM, NO.
WHAT IS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALSO, YOU KEEP USING THE WORD COHESIVENESS.
I JUST WOULDN'T I AGREE WITH THAT.
I DON'T, I THINK WHAT MAKES IT NOT WHAT IS DIFFERENT, I THINK ABOUT THIS DESIGN THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAH.
THAT SORT OF OVERCOMES THE AWKWARDNESS IS THAT YOUR EYE IS GUIDED UP.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT WE STARTED OFF THE WHOLE MEETING TALKING ABOUT HOW CAN THE ARCHITECTURE BE USED TO MASK THESE MECHANICALS? AND THIS HAPPENS TO DO THAT.
THIS IS A, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT BEING DONE.
I THINK THAT THAT'S YOUR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT, NOT THE HORIZONTAL BANDING.
AND YOU DON'T WANNA INTERFERE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA INTERFERE WITH THAT MOMENT.
UM, THAT IT'S THAT GIANT FIN THAT DISTINGUISHES THIS BUILDING.
UM, AND THAT IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION, YOU NOTICE THE OFFSET AND THE HORROR, YOU KNOW, THE DIAGONAL LINES, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE ADDITION TO THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE THEY THREW SOMETHING UP THERE AND STUCK.
AND SO WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS YOU HA IF YOU PUT TOO MANY ELEMENTS IN THIS ONE CORNER, THEN EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE COMPETING.
UM, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS A DESIGNER, THAT IT'S EASY TO ADD STUFF AND IT'S HARDER TO REDUCE AND TO TAKE AWAY, BUT STILL KEEP THAT ESSENCE.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE ESSENCE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPRESS IS EXPRESSED IN THE WAY.
SO WOULD A CONDITION THAT THE GROUND FLOOR AWNING WOULD REMAIN, BUT WE DO PLANTERS THE REMAINING WAY ON THE CORNER.
WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERN? ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD? I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL.
LISTEN, I, I WORKED IN THAT BUILDING FOR YEARS AND I REALLY LIKE THE UPDATE YOU DID TO IT.
AND YOU'RE SO THOUGHTFUL WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
UM, YOU ADDRESSED MY BIGGEST CONCERN, WHICH WAS THE PLANTERS DYING.
AND SO THAT, I'M GLAD YOU WERE PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT.
AND I'M THE NON-ARCHITECT HERE, BUT I'M JUST, I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT THAT CORNER.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF THE COOLEST PART OF THE BUILDING.
AND BECAUSE IT'S WIDER ON THE BOTTOM AND NARROW AT THE TOP BY ALTERNATING THOSE THINGS, YOU'RE KIND OF BREAKING THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW, CONTINUITY UP.
AND SO I, I FEEL THE SAME THING.
AND I ALSO, NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT MAINTAINING THINGS, THEY NEVER, THEY NEVER LOOK RIGHT.
AND IT JUST BECOMES THIS BIG NIGHTMARE AND THEN IT LOOKS CRAPPY.
IT, IT ALWAYS, SO ANYWAY, IT ALONG THE LINE, I WAS GONNA SAY THE PLANNERS TOO, IF YOU HAD PLANNERS ON EVERY LEVEL, IT WOULD KIND OF, UM, IT WOULD KIND OF ENHANCE THE NARROWING OF THAT GOING UP.
AND, AND I LIKE THAT THERE'S NOT PLANTERS ON EVERY LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I THINK THAT'S, I I DO LIKE THE PLANTERS.
I THINK, I THINK THE MORE CONSISTENT IT CAN BE IS, IS THE BETTER.
AND LIKE, THE WAY THAT YOU DID CONTINUE THE PARAPET, LIKE, I, I THINK IT, IT MAKES THAT CORNER A HUNDRED PERCENT BETTER.
BUT YEAH, JUST LETTING THE AWNING AND THEN I WOULD, I WOULD SHOW PLANTINGS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAKE EVERY OTHER LEVEL THE SAME.
MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT THE ROOF.
'CAUSE THAT FEELS A LITTLE WEIRD.
JUST LET THE ROOF BE CONTINUOUS.
UM, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARKING? UM, OH WAIT.
ACTUALLY I ALSO HAD A SIMILAR CONCERN TOO WITH THE SCONCES.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY, ALONG THE, ALONG IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE FACADES, UM, AND I DID, I HEARD SEAN IS LITTLE VOICE IN MY HEAD OF WHAT, WHAT'S THE INTENTION WITH THAT? IS IT JUST DECORATIVE? I I WHEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE, DID THE BUILDING JUST SEEM TOO PLAIN? NO.
THE THE BUILDING AT NIGHT, UM, BECOMES A LITTLE BIT, UH, LACKLUSTER.
NOT WITH THIS, UM, THE LIGHTING CONDITION HELPS ONE ELONGATE THIS BUILDING AND CREATE A EVEN LAYER AS IT TRANSITIONS.
WE WANT IT TO LOOK GOOD IN DURING THE DAY AS, AS WELL AS TONIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY THE REASONING WAS, I, I WOULD THINK ABOUT LIGHTING THE NEW CORNER, YOU KNOW, LIKE AGAIN, THE PLANTING BED WILL HAVE LIGHTING.
SO, UM, ENHANCING THAT AND ADDING, PLANTING ALL THE WAY STRAIGHT UP, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT EVEN FLOW OF LIGHTING ON EVERY PLANTER.
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A CONDITION THAT SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY STAFF BEFORE ANYTHING IS APPROVED.
OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I WANTED US TO REVIEW.
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SO WE'LL GET THERE.BUT, UM, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT IN THAT, AND THIS PROVES MY POINT.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT IN THE SAMPLE BECAUSE I LIKE THE SAMPLE BETTER THAN THE ONE ON THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOW.
'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, GEOMETRIC AND SIMPLE AND SO, SO YEAH.
SO I THINK HAVING THE EXACT ONE IS GONNA BE MUCH MORE HELPFUL.
UM, AND ENVISIONING AND APPROVING WHAT THIS IS.
I, I MEAN I LIKE THAT ONE BETTER.
THE, THE ONE, WHAT IS THE STACKED STONE PANEL? UM, ON PAGE, THIS IS THE BEVELED STONE THOUGH SAMPLE THAT YOU SEE HERE.
SO RIGHT NOW ON PAGE 12, THERE'S THE PROPOSED LIMESTONE VENEER, AND ON PAGE 13, THERE'S A PROPOSED STACK STONE PANEL.
I THINK IT'S THE VERBIAGE INCORRECT.
THEY'RE BOTH SUPPOSED, WELL, THE, THE IMAGES ARE QUITE DIFFERENT TOO.
SO THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE THE LIMESTONE VENEER.
SO YOU SEE, UM, YOU COULD SEE IT AROUND THE CORNER.
SO THE SHAFT, THE ELEVATOR SHAFT, I MEAN, UH, SORRY, THE STAIRCASE SHAFT AT THE BASE CONDITION.
WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT, A TREATMENT TO THAT PEDESTRIAN LEVEL SO THAT IT DIDN'T FEEL LOST.
SO WE ADDED THE STACK, WHICH IS THE USE OF THE SAME, UH, MATERIAL, UH, AND INTRODUCE IT IN THOSE AWKWARD CORNERS WITHIN THE BUILDING.
THE SAME MATERIAL AS WHAT? THAT'S LIMESTONE VENEER? YES.
AND THEN YOU'LL SIMPLY JUST LAYER UP THE PANELS? YES.
AND IT ONLY HAPPENS AT THE BASE.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT VERTICAL SHAFT.
IT ONLY HAPPENS AT THE BASE OF THE DESIGN WHERE THE BUILDING SETS IN AND YEAH.
I GUESS I HAD UNDERSTOOD IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU WANTING TO USE THE ME THE METAL PANEL, THE PERFORATED METAL PANEL AS SORT OF THE BEACON OF THAT VERTICAL CORE, OR AM I, DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT PAGE 14, THE SPACE JOINING THEM, THAT'S NOT THAT VERTICAL SHAFT THAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE CORNER, OR IT IS, THAT'S IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S ABOUT FOUR SHAFTS THAT ARE INTRODUCED WITHIN THAT ROOFTOP.
UM, SO HERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S ONE.
SO PAGE 13, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT FACADE, THAT IS NOT THE FACADE THAT WE'RE SEEING ON PAGE IS 14 OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO THAT'S THE JEFFERSON AVENUE SIDE THAT FACES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THIS IS THE, THAT'S THE MICHIGAN AVENUE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MICHIGAN AVENUE SIDE.
SO THE WEST, IT SAYS MICHIGAN, THIS ELEVATION WEST.
AND SO THEN, IS THERE A MOMENT WHERE THAT STONE THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT COMES DOWN TO THE GROUND HERE? OR DO WE HAVE IMAGES OR RENDERINGS OF IN THE, SO THAT STONE OCCURS IN THESE AREAS WHERE THE BUILDING SETS BACK IN THE OH, NO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ONE.
IF YOU SEE THE MOUSE, BASICALLY THAT OCCURS WHERE THE BUILDING SETS BACK IN THAT SHADOW LINE RIGHT THERE.
MY QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING WAS, AND SORRY IF I MISSED THIS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT A BUDGET FOR THE PLANTINGS.
WAS THAT THE ONLY CHANGE OR IS THERE SOME SORT OF STRUCTURAL CHANGE TO THE PLANTERS THAT IS MAKING 'EM FUNCTION BETTER? SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE INTRODUCING A DRIP SYSTEM TO THE ENTIRE, UH, PLANTING CONDITION.
UM, AND ALSO A SLEEVE AND ACCESS.
UM, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE PERFORATED PANEL ARE ON HINGES.
SO THE PLANTING BEDS ARE ACCESSIBLE RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS, UM, THAT IRREGULARITY IN THE EXISTING PATTERN THAT THERE IS NO ACCESS TO.
SOME, SOME HAVE ACCESS, SO, OR OVERWATERING.
UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE ACCESSIBLE TO BE REMOVED.
UM, SO IT'S A SLEEVE THAT FALLS INTO A METAL BED, UM, AND IT COULD BE REMOVED, FIXED AND ADJUSTED AND PLACED BACK INTO A SPOT.
AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE EXISTING PLANTERS, THERE'S SORT OF THE GRAY BOXES AND THEN THESE WHITE ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE REMOVING THOSE ADDITIONAL HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS YES.
AND THEN EVERYTHING IS CLAD IN THAT SAME LIMESTONE VENEER? YES.
UM, OTHER THAN WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING AT THE GROUND FLOOR.
SO THEN THAT PROPOSED STACK STONE PANEL AT THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PARKING, DOES THAT CONTINUE TO, TO WRAP TO THE CORNER? YES.
AT THE OTHER BUILDING, THE LINCOLN BUILDING? YEAH.
SO IT'S FROM THE GARAGE TO THE OFFICE,
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I THINK IS WHAT SHE DOES.IT WRAPS THROUGH TO WHERE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE IT HERE IN THIS CONDITION, YOU'LL SEE IT DOWN HERE.
SO BASICALLY IS IT'S LIKE A RESTATED BASE.
SO IT ALLOWS IT TO BE A DETAIL.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST TREATING THE FRONTAL FACADE OF THIS BUILDING AND PUTTING LIPSTICK ON IT.
WE WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S LAYERED.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IN WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US NOW.
WE HAVE A SIMILAR SLIDE NUMBER 11 THAT DOES NOT ON OUR PRESENTATION.
NOW GO BACK TO WHAT YOU HAD THERE, BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK YOU ON THE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE, WE DO NOT SEE EITHER OF THOSE PROJECTIONS ON THE VERY RIGHT SIDE, THE TWO PROJECTIONS OR IN THE MIDDLE, THE HORIZONTAL PROJECTION THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT IN THIS OTHER PRESENTATION.
SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THAT'S A RAMP.
SO THAT'S THE, UH, EXISTING CONDITION OF THE FINAL RAMP INTO THE ELEVATOR, WHICH IS THIS BOX HERE THAT COMES DOWN INTO THIS DOOR.
SO THIS IS THE FINAL PROTRUSION OF THE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE SUBMITTED PLANS JUST SO WE CAN, YEAH.
AND WHAT ABOUT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER BANDING THAT WE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW? THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY? YEAH.
SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE THOUGH, THOSE TWO PROJECTIONS AT THE, AT THE ROOF, WHAT ARE THOSE? THOSE ARE STAIRCASES, EXISTING STAIRCASES.
AND ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE CLAD IN THE SAME METAL THAT YOU HAVE? YES.
WHAT ARE THE HEIGHT OF THOSE? THOSE SEEM A LITTLE BIT TALL AND I SHOULD SAY I DO LIKE REDUCING THAT, THAT BAND.
BUT NOW, YEAH, THE ANGLE SEEMS, UH, LIKE A PEDESTRIAN LEVEL FOR THE RENDERING.
THEY ARE LOWER, THEY'RE NOT, IF WE HAVE, UM, PICTURES OF THE BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE, THEY DON'T PROTRUDE AS AGGRESSIVELY.
SO SEE, CURRENTLY THEY BECOME THIS KIND OF STUCCO TOWER.
WE WANNA INTRODUCE 'EM THAT IT SOFTENED THAT IT'S A GREAT SOLUTION.
AND A CONSISTENT DATUM WITH THE METAL.
AND YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANY HEIGHT, YOU'RE JUST CLADDING.
AND IT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE PHOTO.
BUT IS IT, IS IT ANGLE? NO, IT'S FLAT.
NO, WE ARE REMOVING THAT ANGLE.
THERE'S A CURRENT ANGLE TO IT.
WE ARE REMOVING IT TO BRING LESS FOCUS TO THAT IRREGULARITY.
I THINK ON, ON THE DRAWING, THE RENDERINGS YOU SHOW US, IT SEEMS LIKE IT PROTRUDES A LOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE IT AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
AND I MEAN, YOU DO, IT, DOES MAKING IT GO FROM FLOOR, YOU KNOW, TO GROUND THE ROOF? IT DOES.
I THINK IT'S A NICE ELEMENT, AND AGAIN, IT'S A GOOD SOLUTION FOR A ROOFTOP UTILITY ITEM.
I MEAN, I, I, OVERALL, I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE NUANCES AND DETAILS THAT ARE NOT QUITE RIGHT.
UM, I'M OKAY IF WE WANNA DEFINE THOSE AS CONDITIONS, IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I THINK THAT IN, IT'S, IN THOSE NUANCES AND DETAILS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS WHERE PEOPLE SAY, WOW, THAT'S AWESOME, OR WOW, THEY KIND OF MISS THE MARK HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE ABOUT US TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND STRONGER, NOT PICKING THINGS APART, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM HERE.
UM, SO I, I GUESS MY PRIMARY CONCERNS, I'LL JUST STATE THEM, ARE I, I WANT TO DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND BETTER THE APPROACH AT THE, UH, ROOF PARA PIT.
I THINK IT'S, UM, A GREAT IDEA AS THIS BEACON THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH SUBTLE ANGLES AND LIGHT IS, IS WHERE IT IS.
UM, BUT EVEN ON THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'RE NOT SHOWING US THAT WE DON'T HAVE HEIGHTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT MATERIAL AND THE COLOR.
I THINK THE COLOR THAT YOU PUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION IS NOT THE RIGHT ONE.
UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHTS APPLIED TO THE FACADE, AND THEN I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT STREET LEVEL, UM, AND THE BOTH THE WINDOW FRAMES AND THAT SECOND MATERIAL BEING INTRODUCED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A, A CLOSER RENDERING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
LIKE, I THINK THE, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY ABOUT THE WINDOW FRAMES BEING DARKER.
UM, AND, AND I'M NOT SOLD ON THAT INTRODUCTION OF THAT OTHER MATERIAL WHEN WE DON'T SEE THE MATERIAL HERE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S HELPING THE CAUSE OF COHESIVENESS.
I, I'M, I GUESS OUT OF ALL MY CONCERNS, THAT SORT OF RUSTICA STONE IS THE LEAST.
BUT I THINK, AGAIN, THE MATERIAL PALETTE, THE DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING, THESE, YOU KNOW, THE METAL FRAMES, IT'S REALLY GOING TO
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MATTER.OH, WE ALREADY OBVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THE CONDITION AT THE CORNER, SO I DIDN'T RESTATE THAT.
LET ME ADD, MAYBE I'M JUST NOT READING THE IMAGE CORRECTLY BECAUSE I, I KEEP GETTING FOCUSED ON THE PATTERN, THE SORT OF ANGLES, OR I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN AT THE, THE BOTTOM FLOOR CORNER.
IS THE RENDERING SHOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT'S INSIDE, THAT THERE'S THIS SORT OF GREAT THING.
IS THAT IN THE LOBBY? YEAH, THAT'S WITHIN THE SPACE.
THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S NOT THE FACADE.
YOU'RE NOT CHANGING THE WINDOWS.
IT MIGHT BE A SHADOW LINE OF SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT IT'S BE, BUT THEY ARE WRAPPING THE FRAMES, THEY'RE WRAPPING JUST EXTERIOR THE METAL.
SO LIKE RIGHT NOW THE METAL IS DARK, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING, IT'S DARK IN THE, WHERE POTTERY BARN IS AT THE GARAGE.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE LINCOLN, IT'S ALL WHITE.
SO YOU SEE HERE, OH, YOU'RE MAKING IT THE SAME.
AND I, WELL, THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE PROPOSING TO WRAP EVERYTHING IN A LIGHT CHAMPAGNE, RIGHT? SO YES, IT'S, WELL, IT'S A DARKER TOE.
IT'S NOT WITH, UM, THIS TYPE OF FINISH, YOU CAN'T GET ANY METALLICS BECAUSE IT LOOKS VERY FAKE.
SO THE IDEA IS FOR IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DARKER TOE.
SO IF YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS EXISTING CONDITION, IT'S A VERY, VERY LIGHT GRAY.
UM, AND I FEEL WITH THE LIMESTONE, IT KIND OF CREATE, CREATES A WEIRD MONOTONE BOX.
SO THERE WILL BE A CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO IF YOU SEE HERE, YOU CAN START SEEING IN THIS KIND OF NIGHT SHOT THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT DARKER AND IT CONTINUES TO THE FLOOR, BUT THAT METAL PATTERN OCCURS INSIDE, DOESN'T OCCUR.
BUT WHEN I ASKED YOU THE COLOR OF THE FRAMES EARLIER, YOU SAID IT WAS A LIGHT CHAMPAGNE.
SO IF YOU SEE HERE, THE BOTTOM BASE HAS A DARKER TONE OF THAT TOE, AND THEN IT BLEEDS INTO THIS LIGHT VERSION OF PAINT.
IT'S STILL A LIGHT NEUTRAL THOUGH, NOT A GOOD COLOR.
SO, AND IF WE LOOK AT THE PARKING GARAGE FIRST FLOOR, ARE YOU PROPOSING TO WRAP THOSE FRAMES IN THE SAME, LIKE, ARE YOU MAKING COHESIVENESS 'CAUSE THE EXISTING IS DARK? PROBABLY, YES.
EVERYTHING WILL HAVE ONE UNIT UNITED LINE.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO, UM, WE DON'T WANNA CREATE THE SAME CONDITION THAT IS CURRENTLY WHERE IT'S A GARAGE ATTACHED TO A BUILDING.
I TOO WANNA REITERATE SHAUNA'S CONTENTION TOO, THAT WHAT I, ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REUSING AND, AND RENOVATING AND EXISTING, YOU'RE NOT TEARING IT DOWN.
AND I THINK THAT, YEAH, YOU HAVE SOME, THERE'S LITTLE REFINEMENTS, BUT OVERALL THAT I THINK ARE GONNA MAKE IT BETTER.
I DON'T WANNA, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT, AND I DON'T, AT LEAST FOR ME, IT'S NOT LIKE I DON'T LIKE IT.
LIKE I, I REALLY, IT, IT, IT'S, MY FIRST IMPRESSION WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS SUCH A FRESH UPDATE OF AN AWKWARD BUILDING THAT ALWAYS SEEMED TO FLY THERE AND STUCK.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THESE LITTLE REFINEMENTS ARE GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, AND I, I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE NOT NO, COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE RESPOND TO HIM VERY WELL.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMENT ABOUT THE CORNER CONDITION.
I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST, THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A CATALYST.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO A BUILDING THAT IS COMPLETELY FOREIGN OR STANDS OUT FOR THE WRONG REASON.
WE BELIEVE IN LINCOLN ROAD, WE BELIEVE THAT OF REGENERATING THAT AREA.
SO ANY COMMENT LIKE THIS IS GREATLY EXERCISED INTO THE DESIGN.
AND I THINK IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS CAN BE DONE, THAT THINGS CAN BE UPDATED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE DESTROYED.
AND REALLY IN THE SAME LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
LIKE, YOU'RE NOT, IT'S, IT STILL FEELS VERY MIAMI BEACH, AND I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL.
AND I THINK THAT'S HARD TO DO, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
LIKE, I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THE BUILDING IS, IS, IS SUCCESSFUL IN A, IN A LOT OF WAYS.
UM, SO WHERE DO WE WANNA GO? SO JUST THROUGH THE CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A CONDITION, UH, CONDITION.
G THE FINAL DETAILS OF ALL PROPOSED STOREFRONT SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED DETAILS SHALL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA.
SO I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS IS LISTED ON A THROUGH J HERE AS, UH, THE FINAL DETAILS TO BE COORDINATED, UH, I THINK WE WOULD BE OPEN TO EXPLORING, I KNOW PERHAPS, UH, ENSURE THERE'S CONTRAST OR PUTTING, INSERTING SOME LANGUAGE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THAT APPROVED.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY CLIENT IS TEXTING ME.
HE DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING REALLY DARK.
UM, BUT HE IS OKAY WITH A CONTRAST.
UH, HE, HE, HE IS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING
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DARK.UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE.
I THINK ALSO THE CONCERN IS JUST THAT YOU, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A FINAL, SO WE'RE JUST SORT OF SPECULATING HERE.
THERE'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING US.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN AS OPPOSED TO THIS IS IT, RIGHT? LIKE LOOKING, TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE APPROVE AND WHAT GETS BUILT, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING YES, AT A DUSK OR DON RENDERING AND THINGS HAVE CONTRAST, BUT THEN IT'S ALL A LIGHT NEUTRAL PALETTE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, WHETHER IT'S CONTINUE OR WORK WITH STAFF? IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU.
I MEAN, I, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT EFFORT, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE DISCOURAGING AND I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE SAME TEAM.
SO, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND JUST PUT A COUPLE CONDITIONS ON THERE.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE CONDITION WOULD BE ONLY HAVING THE AWNING AT THE GROUND FLOOR, THE OTHER UPPER FLOORS, UM, BEING THE SAME MATERIAL AS SHOWN IN THE RENDER.
IF, IF YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM COME BACK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.
I'M, I'M OKAY GIVING THE CONDITIONS IF OKAY.
BUT, UM, AND THEN, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST MY CONDITIONS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SAY YOU DON'T WANT ALL THESE
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AGREED UPON BY EVERYBODY.
I, I, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY MAYBE THAT THE CORNER ELEMENT BE REFINED AND THAT CERTAIN THINGS BE EXPLORED, INCLUDING THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THOSE CORNERS IN LIEU OF THE CANVAS.
UM, THE PLACEMENT, THE OF, ARE THERE GONNA BE THREE PLANTERS? ARE THERE GONNA BE FIVE PLANTERS? IS IT GONNA BE ON THE ROOF? IT'S NOT.
I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE COULD BE EXPLORED BY STAFF, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO IT, MAYBE IF YOU MAKE ALL OF THEM PLANTERS, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD, OR YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE ROOF.
YOU KNOW? I, I THINK THAT ALL HAS TO BE DONE COHESIVELY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PRESCRIBE IT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, AS LONG AS WE ADD THAT WORD WHERE WE'RE EXPLORING COHESIVENESS YEAH.
TO, TO, SO TO EXPLORE THE ELEMENTS OF, OF THE CORNER, INCLUDING THE MATERIAL BEING USED FOR ALL OF, I'M JUST GONNA CALL THEM BALCONY OR THE CORNER UNITS, UM, THE NUMBER AND PLACEMENT OF THE PLANTERS ASKING THE QUESTION OF IS THE ROOF LINE THE BEST USE OF IT OR NOT? UM, AND THEN THE COLORS, WHAT OTHER CONDITIONS WERE THERE FOR THE CORNER? I WOULD INCLUDE JUST LIGHTING ON THAT.
THE LIGHTING OF THE PLANTERS, OR DO YOU MEAN THE SCONCES ALONG? NO, I MEANT LIGHTING AT THE CORNER.
AND CERTAINLY FINALIZING THAT MATERIAL, LIKE I WOULD'VE REALLY HAVE LIKED TO SEEN THE MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE TO RE CLAD THAT FIN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF SHOULD REVIEW.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A STUCCO, RIGHT? YES.
WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THE STONE.
SO ULTIMATELY THE STONE WON'T CURVE LIKE THAT.
SOME SORT OF SAMPLE, SOME KIND OF, RIGHT.
SOME SORT OF SAMPLE THAT, AND I MEAN, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL WITH THE LIGHTING IN YOUR RENDERING AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRANSLATES NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY.
UM, WHAT OTHER, I THINK MAYBE EXPLORING, I TOO AM NOT SOLD ON THE SCONCES, AND MAYBE THEY'RE TOO LONG.
MAYBE IT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BUILDING REALLY NEEDS THAT.
UM, BUT AT LEAST I WOULD SAY AS A CONDITION, SOMETHING TO EXPLORE, I WOULD, I WOULD VOTE TO HAVE A CONDITION TO REMOVE, REMOVE THE SCONCES.
WHY? BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S JUST INTRUSIVE.
I THINK IT'S JUST APPLIED, AND IT'S NOT, AGAIN, IT GOES AGAINST THIS IDEA OF TRYING TO CREATE AN ARCHITECTURE THAT'S COHESIVE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST APPLIED AND, AND ON THE, UM, PARKING GARAGE, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE PROTRUSIONS OF THE PLANTERS.
SO I THINK LETTING YOUR LANGUAGE BE THESE NEUTRAL STONE MATERIALS WITH, YOU KNOW, PLANTERS THAT ARE THE PUSH AND PULL ON THE FACADE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, LIKE IF YOU LOOKED AT THE LIGHTING ON THE GARAGE WHERE THE LIGHTING WAS MORE INTEGRATED WITH THE PLANTERS ON THE GARAGE VERSUS JUST, YOU KNOW, APPLIED IN THE SAME WAY.
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LIGHTING HOLDS A LOT OF THE DESIGN.UM, THERE TOOK, WE TOOK A LOT OF, UM, KIND OF DIRECTION OF WHAT THE BUILDING, EVEN THE GARAGE BUILDING, HOW IT IS CURRENTLY, AND THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT PROTRUSION OF THESE PLANTERS CREATES THIS WEIRD SHADOW POCKET WITHIN EACH PLANTER.
SO IT NURTURES THAT PROTRUSION AND CARRYING THAT OVER TO THAT CORNER ALSO CREATES THAT REGULAR LANGUAGE.
SO IT BECOMES ALMOST A PATTERN OR A, UM, A REPETITIVE CONDITION.
I THINK THE LIGHTING IS, IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT WITH THE GARAGE, AND I THINK IT'S SUCCESSFUL IN THE GARAGE, BUT NOT SO MUCH WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT.
I THINK THE COHESIVENESS OF HAVING IT IN BOTH IS, IS REALLY NICE.
AND I THINK AT NIGHT IT WILL SHOW IT AS ONE PROPERTY VERSUS TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
I THINK IF SHORTENING THEM OR HAVING A DIFFERENT KIND OF SHAPE, UM, COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD BE A GOOD COMP, YOU KNOW, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE REFINED, YOU KNOW? UM, AND I, I THINK THAT IT WORKS BETTER IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE THERE'S A, A DEFINED SPACE THAT IT SEEMS TO BE HIGHLIGHTING.
UM, WHEREAS IN THE OFFICE BUILDING, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT.
I, I ALSO WONDER TOO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS BUILDING IS AS A, IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE EMBRACED, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, THIS ISN'T A PARISIAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS A VERY COMPLETELY MODERN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS MODERN YEAH.
AND SO I THINK THAT ALSO IS PART OF, YOU KNOW, DON'T, WHEN YOU TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING, WHAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA SUCCEED.
AND I WONDER IF THAT'S WHAT'S HAP I THINK THAT THE COHESION IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT GOAL TO HAVE.
AND HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE, I, I I, I LIVED HERE FOR YEARS AND BEEN TO THIS AND YEAH.
DIDN'T REALLY ASSOCIATE THE TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER, DIDN'T KNOW THEY BELONGED TOGETHER AT ALL.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA TO WANNA UNIFY THEM, BUT YEAH, I, I CERTAINLY THINK AS A CONDITION, WHICH IS NOW FOUR PARAGRAPHS LONG
SO I, I WOULD HATE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A DIFFERENT SHAPE OR LENGTH OR WHATEVER.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONDITION ON THE APPROVAL IS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT COHESIVENESS, BUT THERE'S 15 DIFFERENT ELEMENTS HERE.
SO ARE WE ACHIEVING IT? I, I GENERALLY HATE TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE, THE LENGTH OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE, IT MAY BE BEST TO, TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER AND, AND MAYBE WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO REFINE PURSUANT TO YOUR CONCERNS IN YOUR DIRECTION.
UM, I, I WOULD HATE TO LEAVE ALL THIS DISCRETION UP TO OUR PERMIT REVIEW STAFF.
UM, I KNOW IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT AS PART OF A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS WHEN WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED TIME TO REVIEW, UM, AND DETERMINE IF, IF, IF THESE CONDITIONS ARE COMPLIED WITH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT VERY PRECISE.
SO I, I, BUT SHAUNA HAS MADE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE TO, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE NOW? WITHDRAWAL.
WE JUST DO YOU JUST WANNA, DO YOU AGREE? DO YOU WANT IT TO CONTINUE? SO I, I WOULD, THE MOTION SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT ON WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THEN TO CONTINUE TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING.
IF YOU'RE NOT, UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH REVISING PLANS IN ADVANCE OF THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING? WHEN WOULD OUR DEADLINE BE FOR RE MIDDLE? TYPICALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TWO TO THREE WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.
WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN MID AUGUST.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LIKE NEXT WEEK.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A JULY MEETING.
UM, I WOULD SUPPORT IT IN, OR WE HAVE AUGUST, AUGUST MEETING.
IF YOU WANNA MEET IN AUGUST, WE MIGHT
SO, SHAUNA, ARE YOU GONNA WITHDRAW? I I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE.
DO YOU WANNA WITHDRAW? OKAY, SURE.
I WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO APPROVE.
I PROPOSE WE CONTINUE THIS WITH THE CONDITION THAT YOU GUYS UPDATE THE CORONER PER, WE ALREADY PREVIOUS STATED, I WOULD LIKE TO, WHEN YOU COME BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
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ACTUAL MATERIAL SAMPLES FOR THE PARAPET, UM, AND SOME DRAWINGS OF WHAT, WHAT THAT IS.I THINK AS YOU EXPLORE THAT, IT MAY BE METAL, IT MAY BE STUCCO.
LIKE I, I THINK THE DESIGN YOU'RE PROPOSING IS GREAT, BUT HOW THE EXECUTION IS, I THINK GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND THEN THE ACTUAL, UH, MATERIAL, THE COLOR OF THE MATERIAL WRAP AT THE WINDOWS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS? NO.
SO JUST, SO IT'S THE COLOR OF THE, THE STOREFRONT WRAPPING FOR THE, THE METAL, UH, THE CORNER, CHANGING THE CORNER TO REMOVE THE AWNINGS AND THE PLANTERS.
WE'LL EXPLORE SOME DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THERE, UM, AND BRING MATERIAL SAMPLES FOR THE, THE METAL, UH, CORNER FEATURE AND, AND LIKE DETAIL, LIKE HAVE MORE DETAILS, DRAWINGS, UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU'RE GONNA EXECUTE THE PARAPET, HOW WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BUILD IT AND ATTACH IT TO THE, YEAH.
AND, AND THE SAMPLES, THE PHYS, I THINK THAT HELP OF EXACTLY.
THIS IS THE COLOR WE PROPOSE AND THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK AND THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA CHANGE OR WHATEVER.
DID YOU SECOND MEYER TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 3RD.
UH, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MS. GIL NELSON.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE SOME WORK TO DO.
IF YOU, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET WITH US, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH YOU SO YOU CAN BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF US AND, UH, AND, AND MOVE ALONG THAT WAY.
UM, BOARD MEMBERS LUNCH IS HERE.
IF YOU WANT TO GRAB YOUR LUNCH, IF YOU WANT TO EAT NOW, IF YOU WANNA WAIT TILL A LITTLE BIT LATER, IT IS A LITTLE BIT EARLY, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU.
UM, MAYBE I FEEL LIKE THE NEXT ONE MIGHT BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
SO MAYBE LET'S TAKE A, MAYBE A FIVE MINUTE BATHROOM BREAK.
AND THEN DO ONE MORE AND THEN HAVE LUNCH.
IS, IS THAT OKAY OR ARE YOU STARVING? IT'S NOT THAT I'M STARVING, BUT IT'S ONLY 1130.
UM, OKAY THEN I GUESS WE CAN 1, 2, 3.
WE HAVE FIVE MORE TO COME BACK TO FIVE MORE.
I MEAN, I'D SORT OF RATHER GET THROUGH THIS ONE THING QUICKLY AND THEN OUR NICE PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC WORKS HAVE TO MADAM CHAIR YOU UP TO YOU, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY, OKAY.
WELL, MAYBE IT, IT'S, YEAH, MAYBE IF WE COULD HEAR THE NEXT ONE.
AND THEN TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE SO LONG.
THE NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 12 12 91 WEST 23RD STREET, RIGHT OF WAY, STORMWATER PUMP STATION 24 WATER QUALITY UPGRADE.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL OF AN ADVISORY BASIS FOR A PUMP STATION RELATED EQUIPMENT.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, WELLS, AND OTHER RELATED EQUIPMENT.
THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE WEST 23RD STREET RIGHT OF WAY TO THE WEST OF NORTH BAY ROAD.
SO THIS, THIS PROJECT INVOLVES THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY OF THE EXISTING STORM WATER PUMP STATION NUMBER 24.
SO THIS PUMP STATION'S ALREADY THERE.
IT'S FUNCTIONING, THIS ADDS A FEW OTHER ELEMENTS TO THAT, TO THAT PUMPING SYSTEM.
UM, AS GISELLE STATED, LOCATED ON THE WEST 23RD STREET RIGHT OF WAY, UM, UM, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN THE MINI DOG PARK THAT'S LOCATED AT THE STREET END.
UM, AND SO THIS INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO STORMWATER WELLS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT DOG PARK.
THAT WILL BE PRIMARILY BELOW GRADE.
MOST OF IT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE.
THERE WILL BE NEW ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT OVER AN, AN EXISTING ASPHALT PARKING SPACE SURROUNDED BY DECORATIVE CONCRETE BOLLARDS.
UM, UM, AND THERE'S ALSO LANDSCAPE HEDGE AROUND THAT, AROUND THAT, UH, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THE MINI DOG PARK FENCE TO PROVIDE, UH, PICKET FENCE WITH SLIDING GATES SO THAT THAT WILL ALLOW IMPROVED ACCESS TO THE, TO THE EQUIPMENT AND THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, AND SO THE, UM, THIS IS NECESSARY TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY OF THE, OF THE STORM WATER THAT'S PUMPED OUT TO BISCAYNE BAY.
UM, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR THIS STORM WATER PUMP IS ALREADY
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THERE.SO THIS IS JUST A FEW EXTRA THINGS.
UM, AND STAFF, UH, OVERALL FEELS THAT THIS WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY BY IMPROVING THE, THE WATER QUALITY OF BISCAYNE BAY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE DRB DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL AND PROVIDE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS AN ADVISORY, UH, REVIEW AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY, CITY COMMISSION VIA A LETTER TO COMMISSION AND LTC.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, GOOD MORNING AND BOARD, UM, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER.
WE HAVE A CONSULTANT, NOVA CONSULTING, WHICH WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A PRESENTATION, GOING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS AND MAKING SURE YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER.
WE ARE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM WORKING WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE STEVEN EAGLE, WHO IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.
HE'S CONNECTED THROUGH ZOOM IN CASE YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SOME MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, UM, TO BE ANSWERED.
UM, SO AS, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
THIS IS GONNA BE FOR STORM WATER.
UM, THERE ISN'T AN EXISTING PUMP STATION IN THAT AREA, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THE WATER QUALITY THAT GETS DISCHARGED INTO THE BIS KIMM BAY.
SO QUICK, UH, OUTLINE, I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT THROUGH LUNCH, SO I'LL GO BRIEFLY THROUGH THE SCOPE OF WORK, TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THEN GO INTO SOME OF THE PROJECT SPECIFICS AND HIGHLIGHT THE DEMOLITION, SOME OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, AND THEN SOME OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AND THE FINAL RESTORATION OF THE WORK.
UM, AS MENTIONED IN THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION, THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS CAPTURING THE STORMWATER, UM, ALONG LOWER NORTH BAY ROAD BETWEEN CHASE AVENUE AND WEST 20TH STREET.
UM, THIS NEW PUMP STATION IS GOING TO BE CAPTURING WHAT WE CALL THE FIRST FLUSH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST INCH TO TWO AND A HALF INCHES OF RAIN.
THAT'S WHAT CARRIES THE MOST CONTAMINANTS, UH, IN A RAINFALL EVENT.
UH, SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE WILL BE DIVERTING THAT FIRST FLUSH OF RAINFALL INTO THE NEW PUMP STATION, AND THEN THAT RAINFALL IS GONNA BE DISCHARGED INTO TWO NEW WELLS.
AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL RAINFALL WILL THEN BE DISCHARGED.
THAT'S THE CLEANER RAINFALL WILL BE DISCHARGED INTO THE, UH, THE BISCAYNE BAY.
AND THAT'S IN THE IMPROVEMENT TO, TO THE WATER QUALITY.
THAT'S THE PROJECT IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS PART OF AN ACTIVE SETTLE AGREEMENT WITH THE FDEP AS PART OF OUR ONGOING EFFORTS TO IMPROVE OUR WATERWAYS.
UM, AND SO LET'S JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
SO, AS MENTIONED, UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING PUMP STATION WITHIN, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST 23RD STREET AND NORTH BAY ROAD.
UM, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN THE LITTLE BLUE BOX.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CONCRETE SLABS.
AGAIN, MOST OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURES BELOW GRADE, THE ONLY THING YOU GUYS WILL SEE AND THE RESIDENTS WILL SEE ARE ACCESS HATCHES AND POTENTIALLY CONCRETE SLABS.
AND, AND THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S USUALLY, UH, ELEVATED TO MEET SEA LEVEL RISE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN THIS YELLOW BOX, THIS IS THE DOG PARK AND THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.
I'M GONNA RUN YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS HERE.
AGAIN, JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHERE EVERYTHING IS AT.
UM, IN, IN THIS AREA, WE DO HAVE, UM, AGAIN, MOST OF THESE ARE BELOW GRADE STRUCTURES.
THERE'S A TRASH RACK, WET, WELL DISSIPATOR BOX OUTFALL, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME ELEVATED STRUCTURES, AS I MENTIONED, THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND ITS SLAB, UH, AN EXISTING FENCE, AND THEN SOME VORTEX STRUCTURES, WHICH ARE BELOW GRADE.
UM, AND THEN JUST KIND OF WALKING YOU THROUGH WHAT YOU SEE, UH, AS YOU APPROACH THE SITE.
THIS IS FROM THE INTERSECTION OF LOWER NORTH BAY ROAD AND WEST 23RD STREET.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS BELOW GRADE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU DO SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE HERE, THESE ARE COMMUNICATIONS.
THIS ISN'T RELATED TO THE STORM WATER, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN IN THIS AREA.
UM, MOVING MORE TOWARDS, UH, THE DOG PARK.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THESE ARE SOME OF THE ACCESS, UH, HATCHES TO THESE VORTEX STRUCTURES THAT WE WERE REFERENCING.
UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
THIS IS A HOSE BID JUST FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES IN CASE WE NEED TO CLEAN THE PUMPS OR WE NEED ACCESS FOR WATER DURING THE SITE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE THESE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS NOT RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.
THESE ARE COMCAST, VERIZON GEAR, FIBER OPTICS, ET CETERA.
UM, AS WE MOVE MORE CLOSER TO THE DOG PARK, WE ARE, UH, WE DO HAVE A RESIDENT WHO DOES HAVE A, THEY'RE FACING THEIR, UM, THEIR DRIVEWAY INTO THEIR GARAGE IN THAT AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY DO HAVE LANDSCAPING ON THE WEST HAND SIDE OF THIS AREA.
AND THEN ON PHOTO HERE, NUMBER FIVE, THERE IS THIS SPACE BETWEEN THAT RESIDENCY AND THE DOG PARK.
IT DOES HAVE A SMALL PATCH OF ASPHALT.
UM, AND THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, AS WE GET INTO SOME OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TUCK AWAY THE ELECTRICAL SLAB, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING THERE.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING SO THAT HOPEFULLY THE ELECTRICAL SLAB WILL BE SURROUNDED BY, UH, HEDGES ON ALL
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THREE SIDES.AND THEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TUCK IT AWAY FROM, FROM THE SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE RESIDENCE AND THE USERS OF THE DOG PARK.
UH, THIS IS WHAT THE DOG PARK LOOKS LIKE.
THERE ARE SOME FEATURES HERE THAT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT.
THIS EXISTING TREE, UH, WILL NEED TO BE RELOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE SITE.
IT'S GONNA REMAIN ON SITE, BUT IN ITS AREA RIGHT NOW, THERE IS, UM, A CONFLICT WITH THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AS WELL AS THIS EXISTING FOUNTAIN.
UM, IT'S ALSO GONNA BE RELOCATED IN THIS SENSE TO THE NORTH, WHICH ON THE PRESENTATION WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
UM, NOW WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE HOMEOWNER NEXT TO THE DOG PARK HAS A SIDE AXIS YARD.
UM, AND THEY HAVE A GATE WITH A SIDEWALK THAT LEADS TO, UH, WEST 23RD STREET.
AND THEN THIS PHOTO HERE, NUMBER SEVEN, THIS SHOWS WHAT THE EXISTING, UM, PUMP STATION LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S THIS VERY LARGE CONCRETE SLAB.
THE PROPOSED PUMP STATION WILL BE SMALLER.
THE SLAB ISN'T GONNA BE AS LARGE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN DO, YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF THE HEDGES THAT WILL BE INSTALLED ON THE ELECTRICAL SLAB SIDE TO KIND OF, UH, MASK THE, UH, THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT HERE.
SO IN PLAN VIEW, THESE ARE ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE GONNA REQUIRE EITHER RELOCATION AND OR DEMOLITION.
UM, THERE, I MENTIONED THAT EXISTING TREE.
I MENTIONED THAT EXISTING WATER FOUNTAIN.
THERE IS THIS PARK SIGN THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AS WELL.
AND THEN THE EXISTING STEEL FENCE WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND A NEW STEEL FENCE WILL BE PLACED, UM, IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE SOME MINOR, UH, DEMOLITION TO SOME OF THE HEDGES, SIDEWALK AND SIGNAGE THAT'S IN THAT AREA.
AND ALL OF THAT LOOKS LIKE IS HERE AND HIGHLIGHTED TO KIND OF GIVE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
AS I MENTIONED, THESE ARE THE CONCRETE BALLARDS.
UM, THERE'S SOME SIGNAGE, SOME SMALL HEDGES HERE THAT WILL BE REMOVED, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED TO GRANT THE CITY ACCESS TO THE PUMP STATION DURING THEIR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
YOU KNOW, THEY PERIODICALLY CLEAN THE PUMPS MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY.
UM, SO THERE WILL BE A, A 12 FOOT ACCESS DRIVEWAY INTO THE PARK SO THAT THEY CAN PARK THE TRUCK NEXT TO THE PUMP STATION, USE A BOOM, LIFT THE PUMPS, DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GO ON THEIR WAY.
UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED THIS, UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING ACCESS GATE HERE.
SO AT THE MOMENT, LET'S SAY THAT THEY NEEDED TO ACCESS THE STRUCTURE IN THE PARK, THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD USE TO OPEN AND PUT THE TRUCK IN.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, RELOCATED TO THIS E AND F AREA.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS NOW BETWEEN THE RESIDENCE AND THE DOG PARK.
AND IT'S KIND OF USED AS PARKING.
THERE IS THIS LITTLE ASPHALT PATCH THERE.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE, UM, REWORKED FOR THE ELEVATED EQUIPMENT, THE ELEVATED ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE PUMP STATION HERE.
AND THIS EXISTING ACCESS TO THE PARK IS GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THE NORTH SIDE TO THE SOUTH SIDE, SO THAT WAY THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S ON ONE SIDE ACCESS TO THE DOCK PARK WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP OUR EYES AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED ELEVATED ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT HERE.
SO SOME OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, UM, WE DID TRY TO SEE HOW WE CAN TUCK ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AWAY FROM THE EYESIGHT WHILE MAINTAINING, UM, VISUAL TO THE WATERWAY IN THE AREA.
UM, AND NOT TRY TO IMPEDE THAT VISUAL, UM, TO THE, TO THE BISCAYNE BAY.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY TO THE NORTH WE HAVE AN EXISTING GAS MAIN.
THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, STORMWATER PIPE AND OUTFALL THAT ESSENTIALLY RUNS ON THE MIDDLE HALF OF THE PARK.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE ALL OF THE STORMWATER PIPES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING PUMP STATION.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAD TWO AREAS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH, EITHER THE NORTHERN HALF BETWEEN THE GAS MAIN AND, UH, THIS EXISTING STORMWATER DISCHARGE OR BETWEEN THE TWO DISCHARGE, UH, STORMWATER PIPE LOCATIONS.
AND WE CHOSE THE SECOND HALF AGAIN, TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THE GAS MAIN.
UM, THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT THERE.
UH, GOD FORBID THE CONTRACTOR FOR WHATEVER REASON HAS AN ACCIDENT.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE, UM, SIGNIFICANT EXCAVATION DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO THE FOOTPRINT, WE JUST WEREN'T COMFORTABLE TO PLACE IT ON THE NORTHERN HALF, UM, SINCE THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THIS, UH, THIS BOTTOM HALF FOR ITS INSTALLATION.
UM, AND SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WILL BE PLACING.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE A TOTAL OF FIVE STRUCTURES.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS GONNA BE THE MANHOLE, WHICH WE SHOW HERE AS NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO IS THE WET WELL AND VOLVO.
THIS IS THE MEDIUM AND POTATOES OF THE PUMP STATION.
UM, AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS BELOW GRADE.
WHAT'S GONNA BE SEEN IS JUST THE AXIS HATCH AND THE CONCRETE SLAB.
UH, NUMBER THREE IS THE INJECTION WELLS.
AGAIN, AN AXIS HATCH AND A CONCRETE SLAB IS WHAT'S GONNA BE VISIBLE.
UH, NUMBER FOUR IS THE BIG TICKET ITEM I WOULD SAY, WHICH IS THE RAISED ELECTRICAL SLAB TO MEET THAT C LEVEL RISE REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN NUMBER FIVE IS THAT NEW PARK FENCING THAT'S GONNA HOUSE THE SLIDING GATE FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE TO ACCESS THE PUMP STATION.
AND THEN A NEW SWING GATE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO USE AND ACCESS THE DOG PARK.
UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN PLAN, OH WAIT, CAN YOU GO BACK? WHAT'S NUMBER TWO? THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF THE PARK.
WELL, SO THAT'S THE COMBINATION OF, THAT'S THE PUMP STATION, WHICH IS A TWO PART COMPONENT, A WET WELL AND A VOLVO.
UH, THE WET WELL IS BASICALLY WHERE WE COLLECT ALL OF THE STORM
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WATER, UH, THAT HOUSES THE PUMPS.AND THEN WHAT WE CALL THE VALVE VAULT IS ALL OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT TO, UH, AND PIPING TO, UH, DISTRIBUTE THE PUMP.
AND THAT'S ABOVE GROUND, OR THAT'S BELOW GRADE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S VISIBLE IS ANXI HATCH AND A CONCRETE SLAB.
AND YEAH, EVERYTHING WITHIN THE PARK WILL BE, UH, FLUSHED.
SO YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOVE, ABOVE GROUND.
AND TO MENTION ABOUT NUMBER THREE, WHICH ARE THE INJECTION WALLS THAT YOU, YOU MAY ASK WHY YOU WOULDN'T PUT IT TOGETHER TO, TO SAVE SPACE, THE ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO BE SEPARATE SO THEY COULD WORK CORRECTLY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE A, A REQUIRED SEPARATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY'RE EFFECTIVE AND THEY CAN TREAT THE WATER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MINIMUM WE CAN SEPARATE.
UM, SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN PLAN, AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THESE FEATURES, ONE, TWO, AND THREE, THESE ARE BELOW GRADE.
WHAT YOU'LL BE SEEING IS A FLUSH CONCRETE SLAB AND ACCESS HATCH.
FOUR AND FIVE ARE THE ABOVE GRADE, UH, STRUCTURES.
I WOULD SAY FOUR BEING THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND FIVE BEING THE NEW FENCE THAT WE WILL BE, UH, REPLACING HERE.
SO, UM, IN TERMS OF THE ELECTRIC WASTE EQUIPMENT, UM, THIS IS ALL BASED OFF SEA LEVEL RISE REQUIREMENT AND MEETING EVERYTHING THAT THE REGULATORY AGENCIES REQUIRE US TO DO.
UM, SO HERE WE ARE JUST SHOWING, UH, A BRIEF, UH, EXAMPLE OF THE CALCULATIONS.
THE BASE BLOOD ELEVATION, THE FREE BOARD THAT NEEDS TO BE MET.
THE SEA LEVEL RISE REQUIREMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MET ESSENTIALLY PUTS US AT A PLUS NINE, UM, ELEVATION REQUIREMENT FOR THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
UM, WE DID USE SUBMERSIBLE HATCHES, WHICH ALLOWED US TO CREATE A LOWER FOOT NEEDED.
UM, HAD WE NOT USED THAT, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT PLUS 11
SO, UH, THE SUBMERSIBLE, UH, CONTROL PANEL DOES ALLOW US TO REDUCE THAT, UH, PROFILE FOR THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
AND THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN HAVE TO OFFER WHILE MEETING THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
'CAUSE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE ELECTRICAL CONTROL PANEL, THERE'S THINGS LIKE FPL METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ALSO NEED TO MEET THE C LEVEL RISE REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED FENCE, IT SHOULD JUST BE, UH, ALMOST A ONE-TO-ONE REPLACEMENT.
UM, THE ONLY ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING IS THERE WILL BE A ROLLING GATE, AGAIN, TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR THE CITY TRUCKS TO GET INTO AND OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE PUMPS.
AND THEN WE'LL BE HAVING THE FOUR FOOT SWING GATE, RATHER THAN HAVING IT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OF THE DOG PARK, IT'LL NOW BE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE'S KIND OF WHAT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IN, IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, THE ENTIRE PARK WILL BE OTD.
UM, WE WILL BE MILLING AND RESURFACING THE STREET.
UM, OF COURSE, ANY EXCAVATION THAT WE NEED TO DO WILL BE BRAND NEW, UH, ASPHALT IN TERMS OF ITS SPACE AND SUB BASE AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND OF COURSE, CURB AND GUTTER THAT GETS DAMAGED WILL ALSO BE REPLACED IN HERE AS WELL.
AND HERE ON THIS AREA HERE, THIS IS WHERE WE CAN SEE THE ELECTRICAL SLAB AND EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE ELEVATED.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED HEDGES WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
WE DO HAVE EXISTING HEDGES ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE NORTHERN SIDE IS ALREADY VEGETATED.
UM, AND THE, UM, HOMEOWNER ALREADY HAS A SIX FOOT CONCRETE WALL IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF GIVES US, AGAIN, THAT ACCESS, UH, THAT COVERAGE OF THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
UM, SO THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
WE'LL BE GLADLY TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? WE HAVE NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
SO WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING THE RAISE ELECTRICAL SLAB, THERE'S ALREADY, UH, ASPHALT SLAB THERE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S ALREADY YES.
AND THEN DID YOU SAY THIS IS A DOG PARK? IT'S A SMALL DOG PARK, YES.
AND LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CITY'S CURRENT, UM, STANDARDS OR PROTOCOL IN TERMS OF SCREENING? UH, ANY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, ABOVE GRADE.
I MEAN, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE OF IT AROUND.
SO LIKE THIS ELECTRICAL PAD THAT'S UP AND THEN HAS, YOU KNOW, THE PANELS AND WHATNOT.
IS THERE ANY SCREENING? THE CITY, AS WE'VE DONE ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE PAST, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED HEDGES.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE FASTEST.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S WORK.
THE BEST I THINK, IN OUR OPINION IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AS WELL IS, IS IT KEEPS, YOU KNOW, OUR MAINTENANCE TO, TO A LOWER COST.
SO IT, AND THE PUBLIC HAS RECEIVED THAT AS A GOOD, I THINK THEY, THEY AS US, YOU KNOW, IT COVERS WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE ELECTRIC EQUIPMENT.
NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE PUMP STATIONS AS WELL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT, YOU KNOW, HEDGES AND TRYING TO, TO, TO, TO COVER IT SO PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, CAN BE CONCEALED.
AND HOW IS THAT, 'CAUSE AS I DRIVE AROUND AND I KNOW I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER OF MY NEIGHBORS OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY HEDGED.
IS THERE SORT OF A MINIMUM SIZE OR HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ENSURE? 'CAUSE I, WHEN THERE IS A HEDGE, IT DOES DO A NICE JOB OF BLOCKING IT.
AND I'M, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TOO.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE INSTALLING IS WELL HEDGED.
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ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY SORT OF ABOVE GROUND PUMPING THAT YOU INSTALL IS, IS THERE A SI LIKE I, I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST INSTALLED BY THE NORMANDY FOUNTAIN THAT JUST SORT OF BLOCKS THE FOUNTAIN, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS HEDGED YES.THAT, THAT'S THE, THE DIRECTION WE HAVE IS MOVING FORWARD.
ANY PROJECT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD, NOW THAT'S GOING TO PLANNING DESIGN, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT AS PART OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECTS, THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME SCREENING AS, YOU KNOW, SCREENING AS AS AS LANDSCAPING, OR YOU MAY BE SOME, SOME PANELS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN SAN HARBOR, THERE WAS SOME, SOME PANELS DESIGNED AND, AND ARCHITECTURAL, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE.
AND IF SOMEBODY, IF, IF A RESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OR WHO, WHO WOULD THEY CALL? WHO WOULD HANDLE THAT? ALL IT WORKS.
WE, WE, IT NEEDS TO CONTACT US AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT IS THE SITUATION AND SEE WHERE, WHERE WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT IS OR, OR SOMETHING THAT IS IN, AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IS MAINTAINED BY, BY PUBLIC WORKS IS A PUMP STATION OR, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AND WE COULD, SO TO CALL AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY IN PUBLIC WORKS WHO'S MAINTAINING.
'CAUSE I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS A VERY LARGE DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE A SUB DEPARTMENT WITHIN IT OR JUST ALL THE, OUR ENGINEERS, UH,
OR I'LL, IF, IF IT IS WITH OPERATIONS, I'LL TRANSFER TO OPERATIONS OR WE, WE COULD FIND SOMEONE THAT COULD ADDRESS THE SITUATION.
AND THEN, UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE REPLACING THE ENTIRE FENCE OR JUST A SECTION OF THE FENCE? THE ENTIRE FENCE IS GONNA BE NEW, YEAH.
UM, I HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT ABOUT THE PARK PORTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU DESIGNED IT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, TO MAINTAIN THE VIEWS BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY VIEW AND IT REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE ANY SORT OF RESIDENT VISITOR CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CANALS IN THE BAY ON NORTH BAY ROAD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, AGAIN, I, I LIVE IN THIS GENERAL AREA AND IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE FENCE AND THE SIGNAGE AND THE BOLLARDS AND ALL THAT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A PUBLIC SPACE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU'RE GONNA REDO THE FENCE ANYWAY, IS TO MAKE THE FENCE LOWER AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE REFLECTS THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK.
UM, I WAS ALSO HOPING, I THINK THE PARK WOULD BE GREATLY IMPROVED BY ADDING A BENCH, UM, CLOSE TO THE SEA WALL.
UM, SO I WAS GLAD THAT THIS CAME BEFORE US, AND IF YOU'RE DOING THAT SORT OF THING, PLEASE MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WELCOMING.
I THINK NOT HAVING THE BALLARDS THERE IS, IS GONNA MAKE IT SEEM A LITTLE BIT MORE WELCOMING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE PUBLIC SPACES THAT SHOULD BE USED BY THE PUBLIC AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF, AND THAT WHEN OUR COMMENTS WERE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF AS WELL.
SO I WANTED TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT, TO THINK ABOUT ABOUT IT, AND IT COULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE PARK-LIKE.
BUILDING ONTO THAT, I ALSO, THAT I ALSO WAS ASKING IF IT'S A DOG PARK BECAUSE IS SOD, YOU KNOW, SOD DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK WELL IN DOG PARKS.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY HAS A BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY, HOW DO WE MAKE IT FUNCTION BETTER AS A PARK AS PART OF THESE ALSO INFRASTRUCTURAL UPGRADES, YOU KNOW, IS, IS SAW THE RIGHT MATERIAL CHOICE.
COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THE BENCH.
MAYBE EVEN A SIGN THAT HAS A NAME OF IT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THESE SORT OF POCKET PARK, UM, THROUGHOUT MIAMI BEACH.
UM, AND THEN THE ADJACENT OWNERS SORT OF TAKE OWNERSHIP
WOULD YOU EVER PLANT HEDGES AS WELL ALONG THE WEST SIDE THERE SO THAT IF YOU ARE IN THE PARK, YOU'RE LOOKING BACK AT THE HEDGES CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT? YES, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT PROVIDING HEDGES ON, ON THE LOOK INTO THE WATER TO THE WEST.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT DISRUPTS ACCESS FUNCTION.
SO WHAT REQUIREMENT FROM OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE? UM, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE USING THE CONTROL PANEL, YOU WANT TO TURN ON AND OFF THE PUMPS, AND SO YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT.
UM, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLOSING AND BRINGING MAYBE ONE OR TWO SHRUBS, MAYBE NOT A WHOLE ROLL OF FOUR, UM, TO KIND OF MAINTAIN THAT LINE OF SIGHT.
UM, WE, WE ALSO HAVE THIS, THE STAIRS TO ACCESS THE PLATFORM ON THAT SIDE.
SO IT, IT COULDN'T, IF IT, IF IT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED HEDGES OR LANDSCAPING, IT COULD BE IN A SMALL PORTION OF THAT LENGTH OF THE SIDE OF THE PLATFORM.
YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN LINE OF SIDE FOR OUR OPERATION BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING
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TO, TO WHOEVER ARE WORKING ON THE PUMP STATION, AND THEN THEY TURN IT OFF AND ON IS A SAFETY CONCERN.SO WE'LL LOOK AT, WE'LL MAXIMIZE OUR, OUR USE OF, OF, OF HEDGES AROUND THE, THE CONTROL PANEL.
AND I THINK WE LIVE IN A VERY UNIQUE COMMUNITY IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THESE, UM, THE, THE WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES, BUT WE ALSO HAPPEN TO HAVE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALSO DEMAND A REALLY BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE MIXTURE OF FORM AND FUNCTION.
SO APPRECIATE ANY WORK YOU CAN DO ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT EQUATION.
AND THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'RE THEN GONNA PASS ON THAT WE'RE GIVING RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK ARE, ARE YOU CLEAR THEN IN WHAT OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE AND WHAT WE PASSED ON? YES.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR IS THIS A MOTIONAL? YES.
THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.
SO MY NOTES LOWER FENCE TO MAKE MORE WELCOMING, IMPROVE SIGNAGE TO IDENTIFY SPACES AS A PARK AT A BENCH, UH, ADJACENT TO THE WATER, UH, AT A HEDGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, UH, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT TO SCREEN, UH, VIEWS, UH, FROM THE PARK TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
I MAKE A MOTION SUBJECT TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
NOW I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE, UH, A LUNCH BREAK.
IT'S, IT'S 1150 MAYBE LET'S BE BACK AT 1215.
ONE GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME BACK TO THE JULY 2ND MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
WE ARE CONTINUING THE MEETING WITH A NEW APPLICATION, DRB NUMBER DRB TWO FOUR ONE TEN ONE NINE THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE 14TH TERRACE.
THE NEXT ITEM OF THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 19 13 39 14 TERRACE, CASA LA DOLES.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SITE.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A, A 50 FOOT WIDE INTERIOR PARCEL.
IT'S LOCATED IN THE WEST AVENUE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, IT HAS A RM ONE ZONING, SO THAT'S, UH, LOW INTENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A, A BUILDING THAT HAS, UH, THREE HABITABLE FLOORS AND THEN A GROUND FLOOR THAT CONSISTS OF PARKING AND AN ENTRANCE LOBBY.
UM, THE, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A DUPLEX, TWO SIDE BYSIDE UNITS, ROUGHLY THE EQUIVALENT, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH OF THOSE UNITS.
UM, IT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, OF, UH, LOW SCALE BUILDINGS, INCLUDING SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT BETWEEN THE 1920S AND THE 1950S.
AND THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL CONTEMPORARY FOUR AND FIVE STORY BUILDINGS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT BELIEVE THERE'S A NEW BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
UH, IT'S ABOUT A FOUR STORY BUILDING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DESIGN WAIVER, UH, REGARDING THE CLEARANCE OF THE GARAGE LEVEL.
UM, THE CODE CURRENTLY REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A MINIMUM OF 12 FEET, UH, CLEAR AT THAT FIRST LEVEL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER THAT, THAT BE REDUCED TO 10 FEET.
UM, GIVEN THAT THE ONLY REAL HABITABLE SPACE AT THAT FIRST LEVEL IS AN ENTRANCE LOBBY AND ENTRANCE VESTIBULE STAFF REALLY IS NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
THAT'S, UH, SUFFICIENT CLEARANCE, UH, FOR, FOR AN ENTRANCE VESTIBULE.
AND IF THAT HEIGHT HAS TO BE REDUCED IN THE FUTURE DUE TO RAISING OF THE ROADS, REDUCING THAT TO EIGHT FEET SHOULDN'T BE A MAJOR ISSUE.
UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, OF THE WAIVER.
UH, THE DESIGN OF THE HOME OF THE DUPLEX IS IN CONTEMPORARY FORM.
UH, RECTAL LINEAR MASSING, UH, HAS A COM, AGAIN, THE COMMON GROUND FLOOR.
UH, IT HAS A STORAGE TRASH ENTRANCE VESTIBULE, UH, AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
UM, THE, UH, THE LANDSCAPING, IT HAS LANDSCAPING THAT FOLLOWS UP, UH, THE, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE SCREENING OF THE GARAGE ALONG THE OPENINGS ON THE SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS IN ORDER TO, UH, PREVENT LIGHTS SPILLAGE FROM THE GARAGE AND, AND OTHER, OTHER NOISE IMPACTS FROM THE GARAGE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN OVERALL, UH, AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
I'M THE ARCHITECT, 88 87 SOUTHWEST ONE 31ST STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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YOU MAY HAVE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE ACTUALLY, UH, PRESENTED A, A PROJECT ON THE SAME SITE, UH, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.UM, THE BAD NEWS, UH, WAS THAT THE OWNER AT THE TIME AFTER APPROVAL DECIDED TO, UH, SELL THE PROJECT.
THE GOOD NEWS IS I GOT HIRED AGAIN BY THE NEW BUYER TO DESIGN THIS TIME A DUPLEX ON THE SAME SITE.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, TAKEN, UH, A DESIGN, UH, PROGRAM THAT BASICALLY IS A, A, A MIRROR IMAGE OF EACH OTHER.
WE DID THE VER UH, THE DUPLEXES IN A VERTICAL FORMAT, UH, SIDE BY SIDE, BUT WE WANTED TO TREAT THE, UH, FRONT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PUT THIS ON, ON THE SCREEN.
UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, STRUCTURE THERE.
ONE STORY HOUSE THAT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED.
UM, THE PROJECT IS, UM, ACROSS THE STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF A, OF A BUILDING THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, A MULTI-STORY, FOUR OR FIVE STORY BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, ON THIS DRAWING SITE, NUMBER ONE TO THE WEST OF OUR PROPERTY IS, UH, CURRENTLY EMPTY, BUT IT HAD BEEN, UM, A, A SITE WHERE THERE HAD BEEN A FIVE STORY, UM, MULTIFAMILY PROJECT PROPOSED BEFORE, AND I THINK IT WAS ALSO APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN BUILT YET.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES OF THE NEIGHBORS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, COMPOSED OF SOME REMNANT, UH, HOUSES.
SOME ONE STORY HOUSES, UH, ARE STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND, UH, YET CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING PLACE.
UM, AND THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE UPPER, THE SECOND FROM THE LEFT, UM, ON THE TOP IS A BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY, BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SOME OF THE VARIETY OF BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR PLAN IS REALLY A VERY SIMPLE, UH, APPROACH IN DESIGN.
WE ARE, UM, MEETING AS, UH, AS IT WAS STATED EARLIER, WE'RE MEETING ALL, UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR NO VARIANCES EXCEPT THAT CHANGE OF LEVEL OF THE FIRST LEVEL, UH, TO REDUCE ACTUALLY INSTEAD OF, UH, GROW.
UM, WE HAVE A LOBBY THAT IS ENTERED FROM PEDESTRIANS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND A DRIVEWAY ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND THEN THE PARKING AREAS ARE ALL, UM, UM, HIDDEN FROM THE STREET SIDE BY THE LOBBY AND THE STAIRS THAT FORM THE ENTRY TO THE MULTI-LEVEL, UH, DESIGN THAT, THAT FRONT PART OF THE, OF THE, UH, BUILDING, UH, ACTS SORT OF LIKE A, A FRONT PORCH.
IT'S A TRANSPARENT, UH, SORT OF DESIGN THAT HAS A COMBINATION OF, UH, HORIZONTAL LOOP LURE ELEMENTS, UM, FOR SHADING ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ALSO A VERTICAL GREEN WALL, UH, PROPOSAL, UM, ALONG THE, UH, THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER TO THE EAST SIDE.
THIS GREEN WALL IS, UH, ALSO VISIBLE FROM THE INSIDE OF THE, WHAT I'M CALLING THE SORT OF PORCH, UH, UH, FACADE IN FRONT OF THE, THE UNITS.
AND IT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE FROM INSIDE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, HERE IN OUR PRESENTATION.
UM, THE PLANS ARE SYMMETRICAL ABOUT, UM, BOTH SIDES.
THE BIG FEATURE OF OUR DESIGN IS THAT IN, UH, IN THE CENTER, UM, UH, LET ME GO BACK TO THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS THE MAIN LEVEL.
IT'S SORT OF A BIG GREAT ROOM SPACE, BUT IT HAS SORT OF A, IN THE DINING AREA, IT HAS SORT OF A TWO STORY VOLUME THAT ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE GLASS ON EAST SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE, UH, FOR A, FOR A FULL, UH, TWO STORY, UH, HEIGHTS THAT ALLOWS LIGHT AND OPENNESS TO BE PART OF THE DESIGN.
UM, THE BACK IS AN, UH, A BEDROOM ON THE BACKSIDE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THEN ON THE THIRD FLOOR, WE HAVE TWO MORE BEDROOMS, INCLUDING THE MASTER ON THE BACKSIDE, UH, AGAIN, WITH A, A WHOLE SERIES, AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE ELEVATIONS, UH, IN A MINUTE, UH, OF PUNCTURES
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AND, AND DESIGN FEATURES AND PLANTINGS AROUND THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING TO BREAK UP THE, UM, THE, THE VOLUMES.THE BUILDING ALSO HAS A ROOF DECK, UM, THAT HAS A SERIES OF SPACES STARTING WITH A SORT OF A COVERED, UH, DINING AREA.
AND THEN IT'S A TRELLISED, UH, PATIO AREA, AND THEN AN OPEN AREA WHERE A SMALL POOL IS AT THE, AT THE, AT THE BACK.
UH, THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS AND THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE EXISTING, UM, UH, BLOCK AND THE STREET.
OUR ELEVATIONS FOR THE BUILDINGS ARE, UM, DESIGNED TO BE A SORT OF A COMPOSITION OF SHAPES AND WINDOWS, AND AGAIN, SOME LOUVERED SPACES THAT ALLOW LIGHT TO COME IN AND YET SHADING, UM, UH, A SCORE LINES FOR THE SIMPLE PALLET OF MATERIALS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH ARE STUCCO WHITE, UH, TILE AND, AND EXPOSED CONCRETE WITH THE LURE ELEMENTS BEING METAL, UH, TUBES, UM, IN, IN A SORT OF A BROWNISH, UH, COLOR.
THE, UH, AGAIN, PART OF THE COMPOSITION IS TO INTRODUCE LANDSCAPING AND PLANTING AND PLANTERS IN, NOT ONLY JUST IN THE FRONT, BUT ALONG SOME OF THE FACADES, UH, IN THE FRONT SIDES AND BACK.
UH, WE THINK THIS IS A VERY, UH, SIMPLE, UH, CLEAN DESIGN THAT WILL MAKE A GREAT, UH, NEIGHBOR TO THIS, UH, COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, AGAIN, SOME OF THE IMAGES HERE THAT SHOW THE TRANSPARENCY, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONT, UH, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, IN A VERY TIGHT LOT THAT, UH, WE'VE BROUGHT UP, UM, VERTICALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONT.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY THE INTENT TO MAKE THE FRONT FACADE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THIS INTERIOR LOT.
ALL OF THE FACADES WE CONSIDER TO BE IMPORTANT.
BUT THIS ONE, WE WANTED TO, UH, HAVE A COMPOSITION THAT WASN'T, UH, A DUPLEX LOOKING, UH, FACADE, BUT RATHER, UM, A COMPOSITION OF MATERIALS AND, AND, AND OPENNESS AND SOLIDNESS THAT, UH, MADE THE FACADE IN THE FRONT AN INTERESTING AND VISIBLE, UH, TRANSPARENT FACADE.
UH, THESE ARE IMAGES FROM THE DIFFERENT SIDES AND THE, AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M, I'M SORRY, LET ME, I, I FAILED TO INTRODUCE KEN GARDNER, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO'S HERE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ABOUT GREEN THINGS THAT WE HAVE INTRODUCED HERE IN THIS PROJECT.
FINALLY, THE, THE MATERIALS, AGAIN, A SIMPLE PALETTE OF, UM, TEXTURES, COLORS, GREEN, UM, VERTICAL MATERIALS, AND THEN SOME DETAILING OF THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE, UH, VERTICAL WALL THAT IS ACCESSIBLE AND VISIBLE FROM BOTH SIDE, THE INSIDE OF THE SORT OF FRONT PORCH AND THE OUTSIDE THE FACADE.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? NO.
ANYBODY ONLINE? NOBODY ONLINE.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.
I SHOULD SAY I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS HERE THAT APPROVED THE FIRST VERSION.
AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS WOULD COME BACK.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGING LOTS, AWKWARD CODE.
UM, YOU'VE MANAGED TO SQUEEZE A LOT IN A SMALL SPACE.
UM, SO YEAH, SO, AND THEN YOU HAD TO DO THE CHALLENGE ALL OVER AGAIN.
SO,
UM, AND OF COURSE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT ROOFTOP IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY A, A SELLING POINT.
UM, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS THOUGH ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE, THE DETAILING, THE WINDOW PLACEMENT,
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THE FENESTRATION, UM, ON THE FACADE IN THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT, WELL, I FELT LIKE I WANTED SOME DESIGN COHESION AS TO WHEN THINGS BEGIN AND END.UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN BRING UP A, THE PICTURE TO SORT OF EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS, I GUESS IF YOU GO TO, IN THE PRESENTATION TO, UM, ON PAGE 10, YOU WANNA BRING IT UP MAYBE THE NEXT, UM, PAGE 10 OF, OF THIS PRESENTATION? OF THE ARCHITECTURAL PRESENTATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE, OKAY, YOU WANT, YOU WANNA SEE THIS? THE NEXT ONE YOU WERE JUST ASKING BEFORE THE ELEVATIONS, MAYBE THE NEXT YEAH, THOSE, OKAY.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS, THE, THE WOOD, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF GOES UP ALMOST FROM THE GROUND AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE PLACEMENT OF THAT INDICATES THE STAIR.
AND THEN YOU HAVE IT THEN BECOMES A HORIZONTAL BAND, AND THEN IT SORT OF GOES AROUND, BUT THEN IT STOPS AND THEN IT STARTS AGAIN.
AND SO, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE REAR ELEVATION, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE WINDOW PLACEMENTS.
LIKE, I'M NOT QUITE SURE ONE OF THE CHOICES I UNDERSTAND THE REAR ELEVATION, THOSE ARE THE BEDROOMS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE, IT SEEMS LIKE A DOUBLE HEIGHT CEILING.
THE A LIGHT IS GONNA COME IN FROM THE UPPERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, THE LOWER ONES WITH THE PLANTINGS, WHICH IS LOVELY.
BUT THEN THE SECOND, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S THE SECOND STORY OR THE FIRST HABITABLE STORY.
UM, THAT TO ME SEEMED LIKE, AGAIN, THERE WASN'T THE SAME INTENTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED THAT WITH THE FLOOR PLAN IS YOU PUT THE BATHROOMS ON THE OUTSIDE WALL.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING CHOICE BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE THE BEDROOM ITSELF WAS NOW NOT GONNA GET ANY NATURAL LIGHT.
HOLD ON, LET ME, I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT
SO MAYBE I WAS READING THE PLAN WRONG, BUT I WAS WONDERING WHY IT, TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THERE, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF WINDOWS OR OPEN AND IT, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS BECAUSE YOU HAD THE BATHROOMS ALONG THE REAR.
WELL, WE DID PUT THE, THE INTENTIONALLY THE BATHROOMS ON, ON THE BACK.
UM, AND, AND WE DO HAVE SOME PUNCTURED WINDOWS, UH, IN THE BEDROOM.
UH, WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR, YOU SEE RIGHT THROUGH TO A VERTICAL WINDOW AT THE END BY THE ENTRANCE, BY THE SINKS.
AND THEN, UH, ON THE SIDES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD CLOSETS, UH, ALONG THE OUTSIDE WALLS WITH PUNCTURE WINDOWS AGAIN AT THE ENDS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE, WE CAN, UM, UM, MANIPULATE AND MOVE OR, OR ADD, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE.
UH, WE, WE FELT THAT, UH, PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY PREFER TO HAVE, UM, MORE CLOSET STORAGE SPACE AND BEDROOMS THAN NOT.
THIS IS WHY WE, WE, WE DID THIS, AND THESE ARE NOT HUGE BEDROOMS, UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE LOCATED THEM WHERE WE, WHERE WE DID.
AND THE, THE, IN THE FLOOR PLAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S A, A GLASS WHERE THE SHOWERS ARE, THERE'S A GLASS THAT LOOKS INTO THE BEDROOM, SO YOU GET LIGHT FROM THROUGH THE SHOWER, IF YOU WILL.
UM, UM, THAT'S SORT OF A, A THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON SOME OF OUR, UH, HOUSES TO HAVE YOU BE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE BED BATHROOM AND THE BEDROOM.
AND IT SORT OF, UM, UH, SORT OF A FUNKY LITTLE IDEA OF ALLOWING LIGHT AND YET OPENNESS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT YOU'D WANT PRIVACY TO STAY IN THE BATHROOM AND YOU WANNA SEE WITH YOU FROM THE BEDROOM.
WELL, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE BOTH, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH, NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE VIEWS FROM THE BEDROOM? YEAH, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S RAISED UP, AT LEAST NOW THERE'S JUST THE SAME STORY HOUSE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, ORDER.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, I'M SORRY.
OH, DID YOU, DID I CATCH ANY OF THAT?
AND I THINK THAT RELATES, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF YOU COULD ALSO BRING UP ON THE PRESENTATION, THIS ILLUSTRATES MU WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE, AS WELL AS THIS BETTER.
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IT'S A, IT'S A RENDERING.SO THIS SHOWS REALLY HOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEDROOMS, WHICH IS ON THAT, THE LOWEST LEVEL IN THE CORNER, YOU HAVE THOSE TWO SQUARE WINDOWS.
THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY, THAT THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT BEING ABLE TO COME INTO THE BATHROOM, I MEAN, INTO THE BEDROOM.
UM, YOU SAID YOU PUT THE CLOSETS THERE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A LITTLE ODD.
AND IT ALSO, THIS VIEW ALSO SHOWS HOW, AGAIN, THE WOOD, THE, THE TRELLIS OR, OR THE WOOD PANELING, UM, OR THE WOOD SCREENING.
IT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T, IT STARTS, IT STOPS.
ONE GOES, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY.
OKAY, THAT GOES ALONG THE ROOF, BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD CONNECT TO THE OTHER SIMILAR WOOD FEATURE IN THE FRONT, BUT IT DOESN'T, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE, THE PLACEMENT OF THE WINDOWS AND THE, THE ELEMENTS ALONG THE OUTSIDE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COHESIVE AND TELL A STORY AND REFLECT THE INTENTION OF THE ACTIVITIES OF WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE.
I DO LIKE THAT YOU'VE MADE THIS WALL SORT OF THIN JUTTING OUT TO DELINEATE ONE, THAT IT IS A DUPLEX.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SEE, THAT SORT OF INTENTION WITH ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE PUNCTUATING.
THE FACADE OF THIS IS, THIS IS DEFINING A SPACE FOR A REASON.
THE PART OF, PART OF THE REASON, AND I, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD, UM, IF THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION, WE COULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER ADDING, UH, MORE LIGHT TO THE LOWER BEDROOMS. UH, PART OF THE REASON WE SORT OF DID IT MORE ON THE NORTH ELEVATION IS BECAUSE THE SETBACK FROM THE BACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE NEXT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH IS FARTHER.
SO THE REALITY IS THAT AT SOME DAY, THE, THE NEIGHBOR TO OUR EAST AND THE NEIGHBOR TO OUR WEST ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE STORY BUILDINGS.
AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT HAVING TOO MANY GLASS PIECES TO THOSE SIDES WOULD, WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH PRIVACY, BECAUSE THE SETBACKS ARE LESS ON THE SIDES THAN ON THE BACK.
AND AGAIN, BY DOING THE, UM, GLASS IN THE SHOWER AND HAVING GLASS FROM THE SHOWER TO THE BEDROOM, THAT ALLOWS LIGHT AND, AND YOUR ABILITY TO SEE THROUGH A SPACE RATHER THAN JUST ON THE, ON THE EDGE.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD, UM, ANOTHER WINDOW, REDUCE THE CLOSET SPACES IN THE, ON THE WALL AND PUT A, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER OPENING ON THE SIDE.
BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE TRIED TO SORT OF LIMIT FOR PRIVACY REASONS, THE OPENINGS TO THE, TO THE SIDES, ESPECIALLY ON A, IN, IN A BEDROOM.
UH, WE, WE ARE MORE GENEROUS OBVIOUSLY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UH, GREAT ROOM SPACE THAT HAS THE LOUVERS.
THAT'S A TWO STORY GLASS SPACE THAT LET'S LIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC'S.
BUT, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A PUBLIC SORT OF, UH, ARRANGE.
I MEAN, ARRANGE, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE SIZE, AND THERE'S GONNA BE BUILDINGS THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE IN THOSE SITUATIONS IS THAT THE FRONT OF THE BU, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WINDOWS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND A LOT OF WINDOWS ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO LET IN, TO LET IN THAT LIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ACCESS.
I JUST GUESS THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LET IN NATURAL LIGHT IN YOUR DESIGN ARE VERY LIMITED.
AND I JUST WONDER, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THE MOST LIVABLE SPACES POSSIBLE.
UM, AND CERTAINLY FOR YOUR CLIENT, CLEARLY HOW TO SELL THESE SPACES.
AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE ARE NOT BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST COMP THAT SHOULD BE EXPLORED.
UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY TOO, AND THE GREEN WALL WAS IN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN, YES, WE HAD A GREEN, YES.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED AS A BOARD WITH A GREEN WALL, UM, BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND THERE WAS, THAT'S THAT ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ONE OWNER WAS COMMITTING TO MAINTAINING THAT.
BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A CONDOMINIUM AND, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE OWNERS WILL WANNA COMMIT TO? ARE THEY GONNA BE FULL-TIME OR GONNA BE PART-TIME THAT TYPICALLY A GREEN WALL IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ALLOW IN A CONDOMINIUM A PROPERTY LIKE THIS.
AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGE YOU FROM INCLUDING.
SO I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ARE GONNA SAY, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE DON'T ENCOURAGE OR ALLOW ANY, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE OTHER COMMENTS AS I COME UP, BUT THAT WAS JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TO START OFF, UM, I, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT I, I DO APPRECIATE SORT
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OF THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, AND THE FACT THAT IT ISN'T SO OBVIOUS OF, YOU KNOW, UH, A DUPLEX AND THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LANGUAGE IN THERE.AND I THINK TOO, THAT AMBIGUOUS, THAT SOME OF THE, SORT OF THE, WHAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH IN TERMS OF READING THE OTHER FACADES.
UM, AND I THINK JUST BUILDING OFF OF SARAH'S POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE ON THE EAST AND WEST ELEVATIONS YOU'RE SHOWING WINDOWS, UM, WHERE THERE'S, OR CURRENTLY NO, I GUESS THAT'S AT THE UPPER, I WAS GONNA SAY WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY CLOSETS, BUT THAT'S AT THE UPPER FLOOR.
UM, THE GREEN WALL, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I, I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I APPRECIATED THE APPROACH TO THE LANDSCAPE.
I APPRECIATED, UH, SORT OF THE, THE WALL THAT, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO A RENDERING NOW WHERE YOU'RE JUST LIKE, HERE'S OUR YARD.
YOU'RE DRIVING IN ON ONE SIDE AND SORT OF STEPPING UP ON THE OTHER, AND THAT THE WHOLE YARD LOOKS TO BE SORT OF PLANTED WITH NATIVE PLANTS AND TO BE, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING RAINWATER.
SO I THINK THAT MAY ALSO TAKE CARE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO GET A COMMITMENT IN TERMS OF THE GREEN WALL ON THE FACADE, BUT I DO LIKE THE LANGUAGE OF HOW THE LANDSCAPE IS WORKING WITH THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
SO MAYBE IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM IT, OR IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE TRIED THAT BEFORE AND IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
I, I THINK IF I, IF I MAY, IF I MAY SAY THAT PART OF THE REASON, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PICKED THIS GREEN WALL SYSTEM IS BECAUSE IT'S, AND WE PUT IT IN A PLACE THAT WAS OPEN BEHIND IT SO THAT YOU CAN ACCESS, MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN, ET CETERA.
BUT ALSO YOU HAVE GREEN, IT'S NOT JUST THE BACKSIDE ON ON THE INSIDE, IT'S NOT JUST THE BACKSIDE OF THE, OF THE GREEN THINGS THAT LOOK PRETTY ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A DUAL, UH, UH, GREEN WALL THAT IS GREEN ON, ON, ON BOTH SIDES.
BUT THE BIGGER THING WAS THAT IN THE PRIOR, I THINK ON THE PRIOR, UH, UH, DESIGN TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS, IT WAS HARD TO GET TO, TO THE BACK OF THAT WALL BECAUSE IT WAS BEHIND, IT WAS BEHIND A TWO STORY VOLUME THAT YOU COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, ACCESS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN AT EACH LEVEL.
SO I THINK THAT MITIGATES THE CONCERN.
AND I'M SURE THAT WHATEVER, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY THAT WE, PART OF THE, ANY APPROVAL WOULD BE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A MAINTENANCE, UH, PROGRAM OR SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
I MEAN, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, THERE ARE BUILDINGS THAT GREEN WALL TYPE WERE PROPOSED AND APPROVED, AND, AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LOVELY AND OTHERS DON'T.
AND IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON, ESPECIALLY LIKE A, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BEING, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S GONNA END UP OWNING THE BUILDING.
AND WE CAN HAVE THIS, I MEAN, I'M SURE EVERY TIME, EVERY CONDITION, EVERY TIME WE APPROVE A BUILDING, THE CONDITION IS, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED AND IT'S JUST NOT.
AND THEN THERE'S SO MUCH OF THE GREEN WALL.
I MEAN, I WOULD MAINTAIN IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD MAINTAIN IT, BUT THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO MANY UNKNOWNS TO, FOR ME TO THINK THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A A NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE, BUT JUST A SUSTAINABLE DESIGN IN THE FUTURE TO PLAN FOR FUTURE DIFFERENT OWNERS.
AND MAYBE EVEN THE INITIAL ROUND OF OWNERS FALL IN LOVE WITH IT BECAUSE OF THE GREEN WALL, BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE LINE? AND THEN WE'RE STUCK WITH, YOU KNOW, LAR TWO FACADE, YOU KNOW, TWO LARGE SECTIONS OF BLACK OR WHATEVER MATERIAL IS UNDERNEATH THERE.
SO, WELL, IT'S, IT'S AGAIN, TRANSPARENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DID IT THERE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK.
SO, SO IT'S NOT, IF, IF I WERE TO TAKE OFF ALL THE GREEN, THAT WALL IS NOT SOLID.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, AN OPEN, UH, SPACE WITH THIS, THE GREEN WALL SYSTEM IS WHAT, WHAT CLADS THE OPENINGS.
SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE, THE, THE, THE GREEN WALLS OUT, THEY WOULD BE BIG OPEN.
YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY FOR RAILINGS OR SOMETHING, OR A GRILL OR SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FALLING OVER.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT I THINK WHY I THINK THIS GREEN WALL IDEA MAKES SOME SENSE HERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A BUILDING ON WEST AVENUE, IT'S A LARGE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE VINES ALL OVER THE BUILDING.
AND IN SOME PLACES IT LOOKS GOOD AND SOME PLACES IT DOESN'T.
IT'S JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S POOR PLANNING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.
I, I THINK IT JUST REQUIRES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THAT MAINTENANCE ARE GONNA COMMIT TO THAT.
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IT'S EXPENSIVE.AND THEN, YEAH, I MEAN, HAVING LIVED IN CONDOMINIUM BUILDING, IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING AFTER THEY'VE NOW JUST SPENT SO MUCH MONEY ON THEIR OWN UNIT.
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE THEY GONNA PUT TO PERHAPS FIXING WHATEVER'S LEFT BEHIND? THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHERE IT IS.
WERE THERE OTHER THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAD OR YOU LIKE THE WELL, I JUST WANNA, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD.
I DO WANNA SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S A SYSTEM YOU'RE PROPOSING AND NOT JUST, OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STUCCO WALL WITH, YOU KNOW, A TRAY AND VINES ARE GONNA GROW.
AND FROM THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE WHOLE FOODS, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS AND NOT A COMPANY, BUT WE'RE PUTTING OUR FAITH INTO THEM TO LET LANDSCAPE BE ARCHITECTURE.
SO I WOULD WANT TO PUT MY FAITH IN HERE.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE AGAIN THAT IT'S BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT, THAT IT'S A SYSTEM.
SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING IT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY.
SO, SCOTT, DID YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS? I MEAN, I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SYSTEM, I, I, I GUESS HOW DEPENDABLE IS THE SYSTEM AND HAS IT BEEN PROVEN AND USED LOCALLY ANYWHERE THAT YES.
UM, I, I DON'T, YOU DON'T REMEMBER IF, UH, IT SAYS WE, WE PUT IT IN THE DRAWINGS, BUT WE I CAN, I CAN MAKE AVAILABLE.
UH, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE A LOCAL, UM, FIRM.
THAT, UH, INSTALLS, UH, THESE, SO THEY INSTALL IT? YES.
AND IS IT, IT'S AT ITS OWN WATER, UM, SYSTEM.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PLANT MATERIAL IS? THE PLANT MATERIAL? WE CAN, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN PICK.
DO YOU KNOW, KEN? UM, NO, NO, WE DON'T HAVE YET.
THE PROVIDER WILL, WILL, UH, WORK WITH US.
CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC IF YOU'RE GONNA YEAH.
KEN GARDNER, GSLA, DESIGN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, UH, 1 76 70 NORTHWEST 78TH, UH, AVENUE.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW THE MATERIAL YET, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THE SUPPLIER AND THE, THE MAINTAINER OF THAT SYSTEM TO, UH, SELECT, UH, YOU KNOW, PLANT MATERIAL THAT'LL BE APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THIS.
SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE SIDE THAT'S FACING SOUTH.
YOU CAN HAVE ONE SIDE FACING NORTH, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO SELECT A PROPER MATERIAL FOR BOTH SIDES TO, TO ENSURE THAT IT'LL BE GOOD.
BUT AS, AS, AS RONNIE HAD MENTIONED, THAT THE, THE SYSTEM IS EQUIPPED WITH AN IRRIGATION, UH, TOO, SO MOST OF THEM AREN'T.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS A, A MUCH BETTER WAY OF GOING ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S A BIT, IT'S A PROMINENT FEATURE, OBVIOUSLY, SO IT NEEDS TO BE EXECUTED PROPERLY FOR IT TO WORK.
'CAUSE THE, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THERE.
YOU HAVE A HIGH RISE LOOKING DOWN AND, AND THEY WILL COMPLAIN.
I MEAN, IT'LL BE A PROBLEM IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, IF IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD.
THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED NO MATTER WHO BUYS IT, OR IS IT JUST GONNA BECOME AN EYESORE? OR YOU CAN CHANGE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL LOOK REALLY GOOD FOR AS LONG AS THE BUILDING EXISTS? I MEAN, THAT, I THINK THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I, I SEEM TO BE ASKING BECAUSE EVEN IF THE GREENS AREN'T THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE LEFT WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL LOOKING BLACK GRIDED PLANTER SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, I, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST BASING THIS ON, ON THE EXPERIENCE OF WHAT IT IS, BUT I, I, THAT, NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SMARTEST CHOICE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS AS AS LOVELY AS IT IS.
AND I, I, I DO LIKE THE YARD THAT YOU LIKE, I, I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE EXECUTION IS GONNA LAST IN THE WAYS THAT WE'RE ALL HOPING IT WILL.
IF IT'S NOT A GREEN WALL, WHAT IS IT? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? OH,
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DID THE GREEN WALL FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
UM, UH, WE FELT OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT IT HELPED, UM, SOOTHE THE VERY ARCHITECTURAL FOR SURE, SORT OF MODERN VOCABULARY THAT WE, WE DO IN MOST OF OUR WORK.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, ALSO A WAY TO, TO MITIGATE, UH, UH, RESILIENCE AND, AND ADD MORE GREEN THINGS TO, TO, TO, TO THE DESIGN IN A VERY TIGHT SITE.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE ACTUALLY PERPLEXED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU'RE NOT, UM, LIKING THE IDEA OF A GREEN WALL, AND, AND, AND THE, I WISH I COULD GET YOU THE ADDRESS OF THE BUILDING I'M TALKING ABOUT ON WEST AVENUE, AND TO
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HAVE YOU DRIVE BY IT AND YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S A TALLER BUILDING.DO YOU KNOW WHAT BUILDING I'M TALKING ABOUT? NO.
ON THAT TERRACE? I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER.
AND I CAN, AND I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS OF ANOTHER HOUSE THAT WE DID IN MIAMI BEACH THAT HAS A GREEN WALL IN THE FRONT.
YEAH, NO, I MEAN, I, I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT HAS A BEAUTIFUL ONE.
I ALSO, UM, WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAS ONE IN, YOU KNOW, AND HAS THE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN IT AND DOES, BUT DOESN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE AND IS NOW STUCK WITH IT.
SO I, I THINK IT JUST SORT OF DEPENDS ON, I'VE DEFINITELY BEEN IN CONDO SITUATIONS WHERE SOME TENANTS WANNA SPEND THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN SOME THINGS AND SOME DON'T.
AND THEN THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE TWO PEOPLE LIVING HERE, BUT I JUST, I, I MEAN, I, I LOVE THE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW? I UNDERSTAND.
I COMPLETELY, I, I WANNA GO WITH YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY.
UM, AND I, I, I THINK I, I JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTEXT FOR WHAT THIS BUILDING IS GONNA BECOME, I DON'T, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE SOLUTION.
UM, AS MUCH AS I LOVE A GREEN WALL AND I LOVE GREEN, AND I WANNA SOFTEN IT, AND, AND I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING, I UN I UNDERSTAND WHY THE CHOICE WAS MADE, BUT I JUST, I, I HAVE A LOT OF CAUTION AND I'M JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED WHAT COMES AFTER, WHAT COMES WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE IT.
THERE'S JUST TOO MANY UNKNOWNS, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO DOING SOMETHING THAT IS THERE AND IT'S, IT'S PERMANENT, AND THAT'S THE DESIGN GESTURE.
SO, WHEN I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE IS WITH THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ANCHORED INTO SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T SEE THE BUILDING WITHOUT THE GREEN, SO WE DON'T REALLY SEE THE COSING AND THE OF THE SYSTEM.
IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE, UM, EITHER THESE HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS OR SOME OTHER ELEMENTS CONTINUE MAYBE BEHIND IT OR IT BE DESIGNED? WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE ELEMENTS NEED TO BE THERE, UM, SO THAT IF THE GREEN WALL DOESN'T WORK OUT, THOSE ELEMENTS ARE THERE.
BUT I GUESS MY PROCEDURAL QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY, THERE'S NO WAY TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH, IN A YEAR YOU HAVE TO CHECK IN AND PRESENT IMAGES LIKE TO STAFF OR, YEAH, I MEAN, WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T TO DO WITH ANY, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT YOU COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANYTHING AND ANY BUILDING AND ANY MATERIAL, NOT JUST LANDSCAPING, AND YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT TILE.
THINGS HAVE TO BE KEPT PAINTED, BUT NOT IN THE SAME WAY AS LIVING.
YOU KNOW? MM-HMM,
I CANNOT SPEAK FOR SOMEONE, OR, OR SHOULD YOU NOT ASK THAT QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IF HE SELLS OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, IT IS INCUMBENT ON THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THAT, OF THE PROJECT WHENEVER.
AND IT MAY BE THAT MY CLIENT OWNS IT FOREVER.
BUT THAT'S A HYPOTHETICAL, AND I THINK, AND I THINK YOU COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANY MATERIAL THAT IS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THINGS, ESPECIALLY ON THE BEACH WITH SALT AIR ISSUES AND FLOODING ISSUES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IT, ALL OF IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND WE THOUGHT THIS IS A, AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO INCORPORATE VERTICAL GREEN ELEMENTS, UH, IN A SYSTEM THAT IS EASILY MAINTAINED FROM INSIDE.
AND IT IS A SYSTEM THAT WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE BACKSIDE OF A GREEN THING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT GREEN INSIDE ALSO.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE UNIQUE THING THAT WE WANTED TO, UM, TO BRING TO THIS, UH, PROJECT.
AND, AND, AND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE STRUCTURE OF IT, THERE WILL BE A, OBVIOUSLY A STRUCTURAL FRAMEWORK, UH, THAT WILL MEET ALL THE, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODES, ET CETERA, FOR HOLDING THE, THE CONTAINERS FOR THE LANDSCAPING, UM, IN PLACE.
UM, YEAH, COMMENTS OR, I MEAN, I REALLY, THE GREEN'S IMPORTANT TO THE DESIGN.
WITHOUT THE GREEN, I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT, IT WOULD BE STARK.
MY ONLY COMMENT WAS TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET A BOTH AND SOLUTION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PROPORTIONS, UH, EVERYTHING IS WORKING NICE AND IT'S WELL, AND
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SO, AND OF COURSE THE RENDERINGS LOOK GREAT.UM, BUT WHAT IS A SOLUTION? IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT THAT I, I GUESS I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THERE IS A BOTH END.
SO WE, WE MAY JUST EITHER HAVE TO SAY NO OR MOVE FORWARD IN HOPE
YEAH, I MEAN, I ALSO, THERE WAS ALSO THE COMMENT TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE, THE RENDERING THAT, AGAIN, WITH THE SORT OF THE VERTICAL BANDING ABOUT HOW IT GOES UP, IT'S NICE IN THE FRONT.
IT COMES UP AND IT GOES AROUND AND THEN IT ENDS, AND THEN IT SORT OF RESTARTS ALONG THE SIDE.
AND I ALMOST FEEL LIKE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BANDING BE CONTINUOUS IN A WAY, OR AT LEAST RAPID OR TELL SOME SORT OF COHESIVE STORY.
IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE WINDOWS HAVE A VERY PUNCHED OUT CHARACTER.
UM, AND THEN ON THE, ON THE REAR ELEVATION, YOU KNOW, YOU, THE, THE, THE, THERE'S TWO, I GUESS IF YOU GO TO, UM, MAYBE PAGE 14, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TWO REAR, THERE'S TWO REAR WINDOWS THAT THE FRAME OF THE WINDOW IS BISECTED BY THE CENTER FIN OR LINE, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS SORT OF AWKWARD TO ME.
I, I MEAN, I, I JUST THINK THAT SECOND FLOOR, AGAIN, LIKE JUST NEEDS TO BE WORKED TO BE MORE LIVABLE, UM, AND TO BE MORE SELLABLE.
I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THAT, SCOTT, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT PEOPLE WANT, DO THEY WANT PRIVACY IN THE BATHROOM OR DO THEY WANT PRIVACY IN THE BEDROOM? I MEAN, TRUTHFULLY, THE WHOLE SHOWER EXPOSED TO THE BEDROOM THING IS, IT'S, IT'S SUBJECTIVELY
I IDEALLY, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE OUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES.
I LIKE A BATHROOM TO BE PRIVATE.
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE IN THE BATHROOM, UM, OR IN THE SHOWER ESPECIALLY.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY WHERE MY COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM.
AND, AND YOU KNOW WHAT SCOTT IS SAYING TOO, BUT I, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS SORT OF AN AWKWARD CHOICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH AS THE GREEN WALL MADAM CHAIR.
SOMETHING, SOMETHING COULD COME UP AND, AND I HAVE TO LEAVE IN A FEW MINUTES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MORE DISCUSSION WE WERE INTENDING ON, ON THIS ITEM.
IF, IF SAM LEAVES, DO WE HAVE TO END THE MEETING? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE QUORUM? I THINK WE LOSE, WE LOSE QUORUM ON FOR THE REST OF THE APPLICANT'S.
I'M, I'M DEEPLY APOLOGETIC TO 2 1 2 3.
UM, I HAVE SOMEWHERE TO BE AT TWO, AND SO I NEED TO, I BASICALLY NEED TO LEAVE IN, IN THE NEXT TWO TO SEVEN MINUTES.
UM, WELL, THAT BEING SAID, LET'S TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH AT LEAST THIS ONE.
UM, WHAT DO WE WANT? I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I, I THINK THIS NEEDS REFINEMENT.
UM, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS DESIGN AT AS IS, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY THOUGHT THAT THIS BE CONTINUED, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UM, I CAN SUPPORT THAT.
I CAN MAKE A, A MOTION TO CONTINUE, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU REVIEW.
I, I MEAN, ARE YOU WANTING TO REMOVE THE GREEN WALL? I THINK, I THINK I LIKE YOUR AND OR SO IS THERE, CAN YOU BRING US AN OPTION THAT HAS A BACK, THAT ALLOWS A GREEN WALL, BUT ALSO IS ARCHITECTURALLY ALREADY PRESENT IF THE GREEN WALL HAS TO GO AWAY? UM, AND THEN IT SOUNDED LIKE YOUR OTHER CONDITION WAS LOOKING AT THE COHESIVENESS OF THE WINDOWS, UH, THEIR, THEIR LAYOUT, UM, WITH THE RELATIONSHIP FROM FLOOR TO FLOOR.
I SECOND MOTION BY MS. MEYER, SECOND BY MS. GILLER NELSON TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 3RD.
UH, AND THEN DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT ON OPTIONS IF THE GREEN WALL DIES AND THE, AND THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE EMPLOYERS.
SO WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO, FOR, DO YOU SAY SEPTEMBER? SEPTEMBER 3RD WOULD BE THE, SO, SO WE WOULD NEED TO SEE SOME REVISED OPTIONS, UH, MID, MID-AUGUST.
NEVER HEARD THE, THE, I'VE NEVER HEARD THE OPPOSITION TO A GREEN WALL.
EH, DO YOU THINK WE HAVE TIME TO MAYBE DO THE 41ST STREET
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PROJECT BECAUSE THAT IS TIME SENSITIVE FOR THE CITY? UH, SURE.DRB 24, 102 3 40 FIRST STREET, RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS? YES.
SO THIS, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO DESCRIBE THE, THE CHANGES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COLETTE, SEL, CIP.
UM, THIS PROJECT CAME TO YOU ONE YEAR AGO, AND FOR ADVISORY REVIEW, WE HAD FAVORABLE REVIEW WITH A FEW COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE GONE TO FDOT AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WHICH REQUIRED SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE DOCUMENTS CONSULTANTS, JEFFREY HUBER FROM BROOKS AND SCARPA, WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY.
JEFF HUBER, PRINCIPAL OF BROOKS ARCHITECTS.
UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICK.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK.
WE'RE FROM ALTON TO BASICALLY PINE TREE DRIVE GOING ONE BLOCK NORTH AND ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF 41ST STREET.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT CAME ABOUT ON THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT WAS IMPROVEMENTS OF SOME OF THE EXISTING CHALLENGES, WHETHER THOSE BE TRIP HAZARDS, UH, EXCUSE ME, SOME LIGHTING, SOME OTHER INCONSISTENT, UH, FEATURES AS WELL AS BROKEN PAVEMENT, UM, IN THE, IN THE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION TODAY.
UM, WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME WAS WHAT A CONCEPT THAT WAS CALLED WALKS AND OASIS WAS, WHICH WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THESE KIND OF BOTANIZE ASPHALT AREAS, UM, THAT WOULD GO ACROSS THE THROUGHWAY THAT CREATED THESE KIND OF SHADE HAMMOCKS, UM, AND CREATED A KIND OF PEDESTRIAN CALMING, OR AT LEAST TRAFFIC CALMING ALONG THERE.
UM, WE WENT AND BROUGHT THIS TO FDOT AS, AS MS. SATCHEL SAID.
UM, WE WERE ASKED TO KIND OF TAILOR THAT BACK.
WE ARE STILL COMING UP WITH THESE, THE CONCEPT OF THESE KIND OF WALKS AND OASIS.
SO THE WALKS ARE THE KIND OF IN BETWEEN ZONES OF THESE MIAMI BEACH RED, UH, KIND OF SIDEWALK ACTIVATION AREAS.
AND SO JUST KIND OF, KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE MAJOR ELEMENTS.
UM, TWO, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF POINT OUT, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE ONLY REMOVING EIGHT ON STREET PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY COMMISSION RESOLUTION ALLOWED FOR A MUCH LARGER AMOUNT TO BE REMOVED, AS WELL AS THERE ARE A LOT OF FLORIDA ROYAL PALMS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
SOME OF THOSE WE ARE LOOKING AT REMOVING ALSO.
AND THOSE THAT ARE BEING REMOVED MAY BE RELOCATED ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FDOT COMMENTS THAT WE JUST GOT, THAT THOSE ARE ASSETS THAT THEY MAY WANT TO BE RELOCATED.
THE CITY COMMISSION RESOLUTION ACTUALLY ALLOWED FOR THOSE TO BE MOVED TO THE SIDE STREETS, BUT FDOT DOESN'T SEE THE SIDE STREETS AS, AS THEIR RIGHT OF WAY, SO THEY WANT 'EM BACK ON THERE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES AS, AS WELL AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH.
WE PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME AS A KIT OF PARTS.
THAT MATERIAL PALLET IS STILL CONSISTENT AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME.
THESE ARE ALL DROUGHT TOLERANT, HEAT TOLERANT SALT WATER TOLERANT TYPE SPECIES, UH, THAT WE ARE REALLY INTEGRATING IN THERE.
THEY WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, SPECIFIC PLANTINGS AT THE INTERSECTIONS TO ALLOW FOR LINE OF SIGHTS AS WELL AS SPECIFIC PLANTING AROUND SOME OF THESE, UH, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THOSE.
AGAIN, THESE KIND OF, UH, VERY, UH, PLANTED BOTANIZE KIND OF AREAS.
UM, AGAIN, SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME, SAME MATERIAL PALLET, UH, LOOKING AT SEAT WALLS, LOOKING AT THE MIAMI BEACH RED, UM, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE, UH, OTHER GRAY CONCRETE, UH, BRANDED PAVEMENT PATTERNS.
AND SO WE'LL KIND OF, UH, GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT AND JUST TELL ME TO SLOW DOWN.
I'M JUST GOING A LITTLE FAST FOR MR. SHELDON.
UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AT THE TOP IS THE KIND OF EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THOSE, OF THE, UM, THE ELEVATIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
AND ON THE BOTTOM TWO YOU'RE SEEING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY DO IS CREATE THESE KIND OF SHADE LANDSCAPES OR THESE HAMMOCKS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT CURRENTLY DON'T EXIST.
AND THESE ARE HAPPENING AROUND MIDBLOCK OR IMPORTANT LOCATIONS THAT AGAIN, ARE WHAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THESE OASIS.
SO IT'S A KIND OF PROSPECT AND REFUGE.
THAT'S WHAT THOSE WALKS AND OASIS THE WALKS ARE THESE KIND OF AREAS BETWEEN THOSE SHADE HAMMOCKS, AND THEN YOU GET TO THESE HAMMOCKS.
SO IT'S REALLY BREAKING UP THIS KIND OF TUNNEL VISION THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG 41ST STREET AND HAVING A, UH, UH, A KIND OF PROSPECT AND REFUGE TO THOSE, THOSE CANOPY AREAS.
AND SO JUST WORKING FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST HERE, UM, THIS IS LOOKING AT ALTON ROAD AND, UH, AT 41ST STREET.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS TO THE NORTH, TO THE SOUTH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT BRINGING IN SOME OF THE MIAMI BEACH RED CONCRETE PATTERN THAT CAN GO AHEAD AND TIE INTO THOSE SIDE ROADS.
UM, YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THE GRAY BRANDED, UH, CONCRETE PATTERNS THAT ARE ALSO GONNA BE PLACED INTO THE ON STREETE PARKING AREAS.
UM, AND SO IT REALLY ALLOWS FOR THAT SIDEWALK TO FEEL VERY, UH, WIDE, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO GET ABOUT SEVEN FOOT CLEAR ZONE FOR TRAFFIC ALONG THE, THE SIDEWALKS, WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY THROUGHWAY OR TRAFFIC PATTERN ON THAT STREET.
NO CURBS ARE REALLY MOVING OUTTA SEQUENCE ANYWHERE ALONG 41ST STREET TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN THE FIVE LANES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
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THIS IS JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHICH, UH, THE XS ARE, ARE POINTING OUT WHERE WE'RE REMOVING STRATEGICALLY SOME OF THESE FLORIDA ROYAL PALMS THAT WE CAN BRING BACK IN SOME SHADE TREES.UM, AND THEN IT'S ALSO HIGHLIGHTING WITH THAT RED OUTLINE OF THE RECTANGLE THERE, THAT THERE IS ONE ON STREET PARKING SPACE IN THIS AREA.
UM, IT'S NOT BEING REMOVED IN THIS CASE.
UM, THIS IS THE LOOK AND AND FEEL, UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH, UH, ALONG, UH, ALTON ROAD.
AND THAT'S 41ST STREET, UH, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE GROUND THERE.
AND SO WE'RE, AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS KIND OF INTEGRATION LOOKING FOR MORE SHADE TREES.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING STRATEGICALLY TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE PALM TREES.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, GATEWAY MARKERS AND OTHER ELEMENTS.
UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS ONE, THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, UH, 41ST STREET WITH ALTON ROAD DIRECTLY, UH, BEHIND US, UH, WITH SOME OF THESE, UH, BENCH ELEMENTS AND SOME OF THOSE KIND OF PUBLIC ART WAY FINDING, UM, GATEWAY ENTRY KIND OF ELEMENTS AT NIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO INTEGRATE LIGHTING INTO SOME OF THOSE FEATURES.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST WHAT SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE GATEWAY FEATURES, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PRECEDENTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
UM, SO THESE ARE GONNA BE VERY ROBUST, DURABLE MATERIALS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO INTEGRATE POTENTIALLY EVEN PERFORATED PLATE INTO 'EM TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO BE EVEN MORE SHADE STRUCTURES, UM, AND OTHER ELEMENTS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD INTO THE PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS GOING DOWN TOWARDS GARDEN AVENUE, UM, AND 41ST STREET.
AND SO AGAIN, THERE, UH, THIS KIND OF CREATES A SET OR A FAMILY OF THESE KIND OF FEATURES IN THERE TO REALLY GIVE THAT GATEWAY AT ALTON AND 41ST STREET, UM, A KIND OF CLEAR IDENTITY AS YOU'RE MOVING INTO THAT CORRIDOR.
AND SO AS WE'RE WORKING, UM, EAST, THIS IS LOOKING, UH, WITH JEFFERSON AVENUE RIGHT THERE AT THE KIND OF CENTER OF, UH, OF THIS DRAWING.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING THAT MIAMI BEACH RED INN AROUND THAT STARBUCKS AREA.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BRANDED GRAY CONCRETE, UH, PATTERNS.
UM, THIS IS JUST HIGHLIGHTING WE AREN'T REMOVING ANY OF THE PALM TREES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE ANY RED XS.
UM, BUT YOU DO SEE THE, CAN I, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU A QUICK QUESTION? SO THE SIDEWALK, SOME OF THE SIDEWALK IS GONNA BE THE MIAMI BEACH PINK AND SOME IS GONNA BE GRAY, CORRECT? IT'S NOT GONNA BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CREATE THESE KIND OF HAMMOCKS OR THESE KIND OF ROOMS OR THESE LIVING ROOMS, IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MIAMI BEACH DREAD, UH, THE, AS IT MOVES IN, THESE BECOME MORE OF WHERE WE'RE INTENSIFYING, WHERE WE HAVE MORE FURNITURE, MORE OF THE SHADE TREES AND OTHER ELEMENTS WHERE THE GRAY BRANDED, THAT'S WHERE WE, UM, ARE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING CONSISTENTLY, WHERE EVEN PLANTERS ARE NOW.
BUT WE'RE GONNA BE EN ENHANCING THE PAVING.
AND, UH, BASICALLY IT BECOMES MORE OF AN OPEN WALKWAY, UH, WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THE BIKE, UH, PARKING AND OTHER ELEMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT AS 20% WE'RE REALLY INTENSIFYING WITH A LOT OF INVESTMENT AROUND SHADE AND, AND, AND FURNITURE.
AND THEN THE OTHER 80% WERE REALLY TRYING TO MAIN MAINTAIN A DA ACCESSIBILITY WALKABILITY, UM, AND, AND VISIBILITY TO A LOT OF THE SHOP FRONTS THROUGH THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS JUST HIGHLIGHTING, UH, THE AMOUNT OF ON STREET PARKING, UM, THAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE TOP LEFT.
WE AREN'T REMOVING ANY ON STREETE PARKING WITHIN THIS BLOCK.
AND SO I THINK WE PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME.
YOU SAW THESE PROBABLY EVEN IN THE AECOM REPORTS THAT I THINK OF EVEN COMING IN FRONT OF, UM, THE, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY.
BUT THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE PROPOSED BY AECOM.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT.
SO AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT THE SIDEWALK IS BEING EXPANDED TO THE MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN, UH, GET IT.
FDOT ACTUALLY REQUIRES 10 FOOT, UH, IF WE GOT 10 FOOT, YOU WOULD HAVE ANY LANDSCAPE IN THIS CORRIDOR.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ENHANCE, UH, WITH A VERY, UH, LOW MAINTENANCE LANDSCAPE IN HERE.
AND SO YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT CONDITION, UH, ALONG THESE KIND OF WALK AREAS AT NIGHT.
WE DID PRESENT THIS LAST TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT TREE RING LIGHTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, BASICALLY STRAPS TO THE TREE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA HARM THE TREE IN ANY WAY, BUT YOU WOULD UP LIGHT THE CANOPY IF YOU GO IN THERE.
RIGHT NOW, THE CANOPY IS NOT LIT UP, AND SO IT KIND OF FEELS DARK.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE SOME UPLIGHT INTO THAT CANOPY SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE, UH, THOSE PALM FRONS WISPING AROUND IN THE WIND AND THEN SOME DOWNLIGHT THAT REALLY DRESSES OUT THAT TRUNK.
UM, WE ARE, HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF COST ESTIMATES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, COSTS TO IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OF KIND OF, UH, GONNA LOOK CRAZY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO WE ARE SHOWING AND PRESENTING YOU TODAY IN OPTION TWO.
THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE MAY PUT IT ON EVERY OTHER PALM TREE RATHER THAN EVERY PALM TREE AS A POSSIBILITY WITH THAT.
BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MORE ELEGANT SOLUTION.
UM, OPTION THREE IS, UH, ONE THAT MAINTAINS THOSE STRING LIGHTS, BUT PERTS THEM RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE KIND OF LOOPED AND KIND OF TIED TO ALL THE LIGHTS.
UM, WE'VE GONE AND HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, 80%, I WOULD EVEN SAY 90% OF THE COMMUNITY WANTS THE UPLIGHTING THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IN OPTION ONE AND TWO.
UM, BUT THERE'S STILL A SMALL CONTINGENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE STRING LIGHTS MAINTAINED.
UM, AND SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE 'EM ON DIMMABLE.
IF YOU GO OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE VERY BRIGHT.
UM, AND SO THAT HAS SOME CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WITH FDOT.
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IS JUST, UH, SHOWING YOU WHAT SOME OF THE, THE, THE TREE RING IN THAT STRAP LIGHT WOULD LOOK LIKE.UM, AGAIN, IT'S, WE WOULD MINIMIZE ANY DAMAGE TO THE TREE, WHICH I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME WE CAME IN FRONT OF DRB.
AND SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME OF THE SPECIFICATIONS IN OUR DRAWING SETS ON THAT.
SO AGAIN, MOVING EAST, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE BIS CANE WATERWAY IS.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN THE MOSAIC TILES AND ACTUALLY, UH, FIX SOME OF THOSE TILES THAT ARE MISSING, UH, AND MAINTAIN THE PAVERS ON THE GROUND IN THAT AREA AS THAT ENHANCEMENT WE DIDN'T SEE IT AS, AS AS MUCH OF A, A CONCERN AND WANTED TO MAINTAIN, UH, THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WERE PART OF A, A PLACEMAKING, UH, PREVIOUSLY.
AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING IN THAT, UH, THAT BRANDED GRAY CONCRETE AND THEN TYING BACK IN ON THE SIDE STREETS TO SOME OF THE MIAMI BEACH RED, UH, COMING BACK INTO THEIR, UM, AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE WE ARE REMOVING ONE, UH, ON STREET PARKING SPACE, AND THAT'S REALLY TO GET SOME SHADE TREES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID GET WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS GET MORE SHADE, MORE SHADE, EVEN OUTSIDE THESE HAMMOCK AREAS.
AND SO THIS IS THE ONLY, UH, PARKING SPACE.
UM, AND THEN TWO ACTUALLY, UH, THE CITY RESOLUTION WAS WE COULD NOT REMOVE ANY ON STREET PARKING WEST OF VIS CANNE WATERWAY.
THAT'S WHY YOU WEREN'T SEEING ANY.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST PARKING SPACE TO THE EAST.
UM, AND, AND, UM, SO AGAIN, MOVING EASTWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KIND OF MAINTAINING SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
THIS IS, UM, UH, WHERE NORTH BEACH ELEMENTARY IS ON THAT, UH, THAT BLOCK ON THE NORTH SIDE HERE.
BUT LOOKING AT HOW SOME OF THAT MIAMI BEACH RED CONCRETE KIND OF TIES INTO THOSE SIDE STREETS, BRINGS IT BACK TOWARDS 41ST STREET.
BUT ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, THAT KIND OF LITTLE RESPITE THAT'S THERE ON THE, UM, UM, JUST TO THE, UH, THE SOUTHEAST OF, OF NORTH BEACH ELEMENTARY AND KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT, BECOMING A KIND OF OUTDOOR PLAZA WITH MORE SHADE TREES.
SO IT BECOMES ONE OF THESE KIND OF OUTDOOR LIVING ROOMS WITH SOME OF THE ENHANCED, UH, FURNITURE FEATURES.
AGAIN, ON STREET PARKING IN THIS BLOCK IS GONNA BE PRESERVED.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE, AS WE'RE MOVING, UH, FURTHER EAST ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, FIRST MIDBLOCK CROSSING, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO ENHANCE THAT WITH A LOT OF THOSE SHADE TREES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH WAS PRESENTED LAST TIME.
IT'S JUST REMOVING OUT THAT ELEMENT THAT WENT ACROSS THE THROUGHWAY.
UM, AND WE ARE REMOVING FOUR PARKING SPACES AND A COUPLE PALM TREES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
BUT THE REASON WHY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE FEEL IT'S BETTER TO SACRIFICE A FEW PARKING SPACES IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF HERE.
ONE BLOCK IS THE 42ND STREET PARKING GARAGE, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME CITY, UH, UH, SURFACE PARKING LOTS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING SOME SIGNAGE THAT WE'LL BE INTEGRATING AROUND HERE, KIND OF POINTING TO THOSE PARKING LOCATIONS.
I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR PRESENTATION.
GI GIVEN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE, SIMPLY COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, DO YOU, DO YOU NEED MY CONTINUED PRESENCE? UH, I BELIEVE JUST FOR THE CORN PURPOSES, JUST, JUST FOR THE PRESENTATION? UH, YES.
SO JUST AGAIN, MOVING EAST TOWARDS THE OTHER, UH, MIDBLOCK CROSSING, AGAIN, SIMILAR KIND OF TREATMENTS.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE REMOVING THREE PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT'S THE TOTAL OF EIGHT PARKING SPACES THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
UM, THIS WAS, UH, AGAIN, PRESENTED EXISTING.
THIS WAS FROM THE AECOM PROPOSAL.
HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR CURRENT DESIGN FOR THOSE MID-BLOCK KIND OF CROSSING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THOSE FEATURES THAT REALLY CAME OUT OF THAT AECOM REPORT TO HAVE AREAS FOR SPILL OUT AND CAFE SEATING.
UM, AND THEN AS WE MOVE FURTHER EAST, UM, TOWARDS THE TERMINUS AT PINE TREE DRIVE, UH, HENRY LIEMAN SQUARE, AND WE HAVE REALLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT IS A TRUE SQUARE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING A LOT OF MIAMI BEACH RED IN THERE, MAKING IT A KIND OF FESTIVAL STREET, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA REMOVE ANY OF THE ON-STREET PARKING THAT'S IN THERE.
BUT THE, THE, THE STREET CAN BE CLOSED DOWN AT TIMES TO HAVE MARKETS, OTHER FESTIVAL EVENTS.
AND I'LL JUST KIND OF, KIND OF SHOW THE RENDERING FROM THE, UH, THE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET LOOKING SOUTH.
AND YOU CAN SEE STAR CHILD THERE BACK TOWARDS HENRY LEMAN SQUARE, HENRY LEMAN SQUARE THERE ITSELF, LOOKING BACK TO THE NORTH, UH, WITH STAR CHILD.
AND SO THE STREET IS OFF TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED HERE? OKAY.
I GUESS YOU HAVE TO ASK, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ISSUE YOUR ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION.
OH, I SAID, UM, YOU CAN ISSUE YOUR ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY.
ANY COMMENTS? ANYTHING? GO FOR IT.
YEAH, I JUST, UM, SO THE, THE, THE STRUCTURAL THINGS THAT WERE NOT REALLY SHADE FEATURES, BUT THEY LOOKED LIKE LIGHT GATEWAY FEATURES.
SO I REALLY LIKE MIAMI BEACH RED, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT ALL LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PAINTED IN PEPTO-BISMOL TO ME, THE WHOLE, IT'S TOO, LIKE I JUST, AND THE, THE CEMENT IS NEVER THE SAME COLOR WHEN THEY DO NEW AND THEN IT FADES AND I JUST, THE, I I THINK THAT COLOR'S AWFUL FOR LIKE A STRUCTURAL THING.
WAS THAT A BIG PART OF THE DESIGN? SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED TOWARDS THE GRAY,
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AND I'M, I'M SPEAKING FOR JEFF, BUT THAT'S WHY WE, WE MOVED TOWARDS THE GRAY BRANDED CONCRETE FROM MAJORITY OF THE CORRIDOR.UM, THE REDS INTRODUCED AT A CERTAIN LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE, UM, HARMONIZING WITH THE SIDE STREETS.
SO YOU'LL SEE IT PICK UP ON THE SIDE STREETS 'CAUSE WE'VE GOTTA MEET THE CONDITION ON THE SIDE STREET.
UM, BUT PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE RED AND THE DESIGN IS, IS DONE IN A WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT WILL LOOK INTENTIONAL IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE, UM, REPAIRS.
THE IDEA OF DOING BANDS OF PAVEMENT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING.
NO, I'M TALKING THE, THE RED PAVEMENT I LIKE IT IS THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE OH, THAT PINKISH COLOR.
OH, WE CAN LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE COLORS IF THAT'S, YEAH, I MEAN I JUST, THAT TO ME LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO MATCH, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE PEPTO BISMOL JUST GONNA BE FLAT OUT THERE.
AND THEN ARE THE LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE LIGHTS STAYING THOSE VICTORIAN ERA BLACK LIGHTS, THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.
WE, WE, THERE, THERE'S NOT A BUDGET IN THE, IN THE PROJECT TO REPLACE THOSE.
AND THEN TWO, THERE ARE THE STANDARD LIGHT FOR THE CITY AND, AND PART OF THE EFFORT JUST LOOKS SO OUT PLACE IN THIS CITY ON SO MANY LEVELS.
I CAN'T EVEN, YEAH, I WOULD SAY, I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S, WITH, THERE'S WITH THIS, THERE'S A BUDGET AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU RENOVATE ONE ROOM OF A HOUSE AND THEN YOU REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS IT DIDN'T LOOK SO, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
UM, I I I THINK THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE SORT OF, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE GATEWAY STRUCTURES THAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE THOSE TO BE REFINED.
I, UM, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE COLOR AND THE NICE THING IS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD MAKE THEM ANY COLOR, YOU KNOW? AND I AGREE THAT IT, IT'S A LOT OF IT, IT DOES BECOME A LOT OF THE RED AND THE PINK.
I THINK STANDALONE IT WOULD BE GREAT IN THIS FLAMINGO PINK, BUT I COULD SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE MATCHY MATCHY, MAYBE SOMETHING AND LIKE, AND A YELLOW OR SOME OTHER FUN BRIGHT COLOR.
UM, I WOULD ALSO, YOU STARTED TO ALLUDE TO THIS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYBE USING THOSE FOR SHADE.
THAT WAS ONE IN ONE OF THE PICTURES IN YOUR PRESENTATION THERE WERE TWO VIEWS WITH THE STRUCTURES.
AND ONE OF THEM IS, IS THE BASES SURROUNDING A PALM TREE.
AND I THOUGHT THAT LOOKED FANTASTIC AND REALLY FUN AND REALLY 'CAUSE IT CALLS ATTENTION TO THE ROYAL PALM, WHICH WE ALL LOVE.
BUT THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS OVER THE BENCHES THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME SORT OF INTENTION.
AND WHAT I WANTED IT TO BE WAS A SHADE STRUCTURE, BUT IT WAS SEE-THROUGH.
SO I THINK THAT WITH THE PLACEMENT, LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY SHADE IS A MAJOR THEME WITH THIS.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXPLORE, HOW YOU CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE SHADE STRUCTURES OR PUT THEM IN PLACES WHERE THEY SURROUND SOME OF AND CALL ATTENTION TO THE, UM, THE PALM TREES.
'CAUSE THAT'S AN INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ART WITH NATURE SITUATION.
UM, YEAH, THAT WAS MY, AND I THINK TOO, I REMEMBER OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LIGHTS.
I WOULD VOTE THAT THE DOWN LIGHTING BE ON EVERY OTHER TREE THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON EVERY TREE.
UM, AND THEN I WAS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WITH THE QUESTION THAT I HAD, UM, SO AS YOU WALK UP AND DOWN 41ST STREET, THE, THE PA THE CURRENT PAVER SITUATION IS ODD.
UM, AND I FEEL LIKE IT CHANGES.
AND SO, BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT ON THE BRIDGES YOU'RE GONNA KEEP, WHAT'S THERE IS WHAT'S THERE THAT BRICK OR IS IT JUST WHITE? SO IT IS, IT'S LIKE A GRAY PAVER.
SO I THINK IT WILL GO WELL WITH THE BRANDED.
WE CAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT'S LIKE A WHITE FRAME AND BRICK.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE, IT'S NOT LIKE ONE OF THESE IS NOT LIKE THE EL YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE BRIDGED A LITTLE AND BLENDED, UM, TO, TO MAKE IT.
YEAH, THAT WOULD, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WE WANT THE STREET TO BE COHESIVE.
AND THAT, AND RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE THAT.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS.
OH, ACTUALLY I DO HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT I'M SURE IT'S COME UP THAT THE LIEMAN SQUARE SCULPTURE IS FANTASTIC AND THERE IS THE LARGEST THICKEST LIGHT POLE IN FRONT OF IT THAT I THINK IS IN EXISTENCE.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT COULD BE MOVED? NO.
OR REWAR? COULD THE SQUARE BE REWORKED? I DON'T KNOW.
SOMETHING, IT'S SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? IT ALMOST WOULD BE EASIER TO MOVE THE ART THAN IT WOULD BE WELL, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR PRESENTATION, IT SEEMED LIKE IT HAD BEEN MOVED AND, AND I GOT EXCITED, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF ARTISTIC FREEDOM.
SORRY, I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
DO WE EVER SEE THE GATEWAY STRUCTURES OVER THE GRAY PAVERS OR INTENTIONALLY, ARE THEY ALWAYS LINKED WITH THE MIAMI RED? WE CURRENTLY HAVE 'EM AS IN THE MIAMI BEACH RED.
THAT'S WHERE THEY PRETTY MUCH ONLY STAY WITHIN.
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MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL WITH SORT OF THE BRIGHT PINK COLOR IN IT.AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER BRIGHT COLORED SCULPTURES AROUND, BUT I THINK SORT OF THESE SCULPTURES HAVING THEIR OWN COLOR AND THEIR, THEIR LANGUAGE BEING THAT THEY ARE A NEON COLOR TIES THEM TOGETHER.
UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COLOR PALETTE THAT EXISTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH AND HOW IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE.
BUT, UH, SOME THINGS WE MAY JUST NOT BE ABLE TO TO CHANGE BECAUSE THOSE ARE CONTEXTUAL AND SET IN PLACE.
BUT MY, MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS ABOUT THESE GATEWAY STRUCTURES.
I DO THINK YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN THEY PROVIDE SHADE? AND YOU ALSO ADDRESSED SARAH, HOW THEY EMBRACE SOMETIMES PALMS, WHICH I DON'T LOVE KING PALMS, BUT IT CAN, THEY EMBRACE SHADE TREES, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FA DO THEY START TO HAVE A FAMILY WHERE AT ONE MOMENT, IF THEY ARE INDEPENDENT, THERE IS THIS OTHER LAYER OF ADDITIONAL PERFORATED METAL OR SOMETHING THAT IS ATTACHED.
IF THE OTHER MOMENT, IF THEY'RE ENGAGING A TREE OR YOU KNOW, EXISTING SHADE, THEN THEY APPEAR A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO THEN YOU START TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ADAPT TO THE CONTEXT.
I THINK THAT COULD BE REALLY INTERESTING AND HELP WITH THE BUDGET WHERE YOU'RE NOT ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE TO EVERY MOMENT.
HOW OFTEN ARE THEY APPEARING? THEY ONLY HAPPEN AT THE GATEWAYS, THE TWO GATEWAYS AT PINE TREE DRIVE AND AT ALTON.
UM, AT ALTON THEY DO KIND OF SLIP BACK TOWARDS, UH, GARDEN AVENUE A LITTLE BIT.
SO WITHIN THAT BLOCK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BLOCK.
BUT THEY PRIMARILY STAY AT THE, UH, PINE TREE DRIVE AND ALTON ROAD INTERSECTIONS.
THERE, THERE IS ONE OTHER AREA.
I THINK WE HAVE 'EM AT THE NORTH BEACH ELEMENTARY, UM, IN THAT PLACE.
UM, SORRY, WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA ABOUT THE GRAY, UM, SORT OF MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE PATTERN AND HOW YOU'RE JUST DOING THAT WITH DIFFERENT FINISHES, AGGREGATES.
UM, SO IT'S A LANGUAGE WITHIN ITSELF, BUT THE SAME MATERIAL, ET CETERA.
SO ANY OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THAT LANGUAGE TO THE MIAMI BEACH RED CONCRETE.
AND THEN IF WITH SOME EXPERIMENTATION IT MAY LOOK SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OR YOU MIGHT LIKE THE BROOM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT AND YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT TENTS, SO IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MEANT TO BE.
SO, AND THE, AND THE INTENT OF THAT IS IF THEY DO HAVE TO COME IN THERE AND SCAR TO DIG UP AND KIND OF WORK ON ANY OF THAT, THAT IT LOOKS INTENTIONAL.
LIKE IT'S NOT JUST A PATCHWORK THAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO KIND OF HAVE THAT LOOK AND FEEL.
SO YES, WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW, DOES THAT CHANGE AT ALL HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? OR WAIT, YOU ALREADY LIKED THE MIAMI BEACH? I'M FINE WITH THE MIAMI BEACH RED SIDEWALKS IN IT.
SO I, AND I KNOW THAT IT CHANGES, THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH AS THAT PINK COLOR SCULPTURES SCULPTURES NEXT TO IT.
WHAT IF, WHAT IF THE BENCHES WEREN'T PINK BUT THE SCULPTURE WAS RIGHT? OR IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S A LOT.
THE BENCHES ARE PART OF THE CONCRETE THAT ALMOST DOESN'T, AND IT SORT OF GROWS OUT OF IT.
IT, IT JUST KIND OF YEAH, IT, ANYWAY, BUT I, I MADE MY POINT.
I MEAN, TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK NOTED THAT'D BE, UM, I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THAT I THINK THE USE OF THE, THE NEW TREES AND THE INTENTIONAL SHADING IS CLEARLY IT'S INTEGRAL TO THIS PROJECT, BUT SINCE WE'RE SAYING THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE ADVISED TO THE COMMISSIONERS, LIKE THAT'S HUGE.
YOU KNOW, NOT CUTTING OUT ANY OF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WHERE YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE PARKING TO INTRODUCE SHADING OR MOMENTS OF PAUSE.
I, I SUPPORT THE ANALYSIS YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AND REALLY EXCITED TO SEE AGAIN, HOW THE URBAN SORT OF LANDSCAPE EVOLVES AS WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THE URBANISM HERE.
AND I KNOW I ALWAYS ASK YOU THIS, WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? JUST BACK AND FORTH.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY, AS YOU KNOW.
AND THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE COMBINED WITH A WATER MAIN REPLACEMENT ALONG 41ST STREET.
UM, DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION'S GOING TO BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 24 TO 36 MONTHS.
UM, FOR THE COMPLETE SCOPE OF THAT WORK THAT HAS TO BE SCHEDULED, ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS SCHEDULED, INCLUDING THE ALTERNATE ROAD PROJECT THAT FDOT HAS, IF WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY, WE COULD GET AHEAD OF THEM AND WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION THE LATTER PART OF NEXT YEAR.
IF WE DO NOT GET ALL OF OUR PERMITS IN TIME, WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE THIS PROJECT FALLS SCHEDULE WISE.
SO WE ARE RUNNING, THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS HEARD TODAY.
WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF FDOT AND THEN THE WATER MAIN PROJECT, IS THAT LIKE WHAT YOU DID CLOSER TO THE OCEAN, CLOSER TO COLLINS? IS THAT THE SAME SORT OF THING? DIDN'T YOU JUST REPLACE A WATER MAIN OR NO? YEAH, THAT THE PIECE ACROSS THE BRIDGE? YEAH.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT.
YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN?
I'M JUST, I'M FEELING SORRY FOR ALL THE CITY OFFICIALS.
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MASSIVE COMPLAINTS WITH I, YEAH, YEAH.BUT IT HAS TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT AND, AND WE'RE, WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT HAS TO BE NIGHT WORK, IT MAY JUST END UP BEING THAT, UM, THE WORK CANNOT BE CONTINUOUS, YOU KNOW, ALL AT ONCE.
WE HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN IN PHASES SO THAT, TO MINIMIZE THE DISRUPTION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A TEAM OF CONSULTANTS JUST LOOKING AT THE LOGISTICS OF, OF EXECUTING THE PROJECT.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY AND GET THIS GOING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP TODAY.
SO DO WE NOW NEED TO CONTINUE THE REST OF THESE OTHER TWO TO THE NEXT MEETING? OKAY.
SO I GUESS THEY'RE, WE WE'RE, WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, DON'T NEED, SO THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUED TO THE NEXT, TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO UNFOR, THE ITEMS WILL, WE CAN SHOW IT QUICKLY SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME COMMENTS FROM YOU, YOU KNOW, TO AVOID IN SEPTEMBER TO HAVE COMMENTS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE GONNA SEE, YEAH, THERE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
CAN WE DO THAT? OR HOW DOES THAT, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THIS.
YEAH, YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.
YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE A FORMAL MOTION.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, OH WAIT, YOU'RE ON.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, BUT THEN THE THREE OF US ARE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT TOGETHER, IS THAT NO, IT'S FINE.
IT'S AN YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC SETTING.
IT'S MORE LIKE TO RECEIVE THE COMMENTS OF YOUR OPINION TO WORK THAT IF WE NEED TO.
WE HAVE TIME NOW, BECAUSE TWO SEPTEMBER, THAT'S A LOT.
IN SEPTEMBER, YOU HAVE THE COMMENTS TO GO TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE IF I, I CAN, YEAH.
SO THESE, THESE, UH, THESE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY HAVE THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE THE TWO LA THE LAST TWO PROJECTS, THEN BORA BAY ONE, DEBORA BAY TWO, UH, SO IT'S DRB 23 DASH 0 9 6 0 AND 0 0 9 6 1.
UM, WE HAD, I, I GUESS WE CAN, I CAN LET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE.
UH, SO FOR THIS FIRST ONE, WHICH IS, UH, 7 0 4 80 FOURTH STREET, WE WERE RECOMMENDING A FEW THINGS THAT THE, UM, SHOULD I, SHOULD I JUST GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THE ITEM YOU THINK FOR, FOR YOU GUYS FOR, FOR YOUR BENEFIT? OR LOOK, SHAUNA, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, THE PRESENTA? THE SECOND.
AND WHAT ABOUT, DID YOU I, I MEAN, I, WE, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST ONE, WE CAN GO, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU'RE SAYING DO THEY NEED TO DO A FULL FORMAL PRESENTATION OR SHOULD JUST COMMENT? WOULD YOU LIKE US, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THIS? GIVE YOU MY, GIVE YOU OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DID HAVE A FEW DESIGN RE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THESE.
YEAH, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS TOO, SO, OKAY.
SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, THIS IS GONNA BE 7 0 4 80 FOURTH STREET.
UM, WE WERE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING THAT THE ARCHITECT, UH, INCORPORATE THE SAME SCREENING PROPOSED FOR THE STAIR TOWER AND THAT THE, AND ADDITIONALLY THAT THE ARCHITECT THAT, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT TRELLIS STRUCTURE AND STAIR SCREENING, UH, BE REDUCED IN HEIGHT TO THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE MECHANICAL ROOF.
CURRENTLY, AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, THEY HAVE SOME SCREENING ALONG A STAIRWELL THAT GOES 15 FEET ABOVE THE ROOFTOP LEVEL, WHICH WE FEEL OVERWHELMED THE DESIGN.
SO STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE REDUCED.
UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY RECOMMENDING THAT THERE BE SCREENING ON THE GARAGE LEVELS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN RECOMMENDING ON MOST OF THESE, UH, ON THE PERIMETER OF THE GARAGE TO, TO MINIMIZE LIGHTS SPILLAGE.
UM, SO THE MAIN DESIGN CONCERN IS THAT THAT TRELLIS STRUCTURE BE REDUCED IN HEIGHT BECAUSE WE FELT THAT IT WAS JUST TOO MASSIVE FOR THAT, UH, FOR, GIVEN THE PROPORTIONS OF THE DESIGN.
UM, SO THAT'S THE MAIN DESIGN, UH, CONCERN.
UM, BUT I'LL LET THEM DESCRIBE IT 'CAUSE I'LL DO A, I'LL DO A FULL PRESENTATION WHEN IT FORMALLY COMES BEFORE THE BOARD.
I AM NOT SURE IF I, OH, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
UH, WELL, BASICALLY TO MAKE IT QUICK, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO GO, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, BUILDING OR JUST YESTERDAY, THE EXTERIOR AESTHETIC.
UM, THIS, THIS IS A SEVEN UNITS BUILDING.
IT HAS THE GROUND FLOOR ONLY WITH THE PARKING AND THE ACCESS TO THE APARTMENT.
AND IT LOCATES, UH, THREE UNITS IN THE SECOND AND THIRD LEVEL AND ANOTHER UNIT IN THE, IN THE FOURTH LEVEL WITH A TERRACE, WITH A JACUZZI.
UM, THE MATERIALS, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, NATURAL
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MATERIALS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT OVER TIME IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN WITH A, WITH A CLEANING THAN BEING DEPENDING ON THE PAINTING AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT.UM, AND AS THESE, UM, SMALL LOTS ARE VERY CHALLENGING WITH THE STRUCTURE AND LOCATING THE PARKING SPACES, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT AS MUCH PARKING SPACES AS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
AND WE DECIDED TO DO SOME, UH, SORT OF EXO SKELETON WITH THE STRUCTURE AND TO, UM, DO LIKE, UH, BOXES WITH THE SIDING TEXTURE, ONE IN, IN IN WOOD COLOR AND OTHER ONES, UH, UH, WITH LIKE A DARK, UH, CLAYING PANEL AND CONCRETE TEXTURES.
I'M GONNA TRY TO, TO GO LIKE FAST TO THE RENDERINGS.
SO, SO WE SEE THAT VERY QUICKLY.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THE PROPOSED MATERIALS.
AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED TO LOCATE THE STAIRS FIRST.
SO THAT CREATES THIS LIKE, LARGE PANEL IN THE FRONT.
THAT'S KIND OF LIKE MANDATORY.
THERE IS NOT MUCH OPTIONS FOR THAT.
SO WE ARE, UM, UM, CREATING A SCREEN, UM, THAT IT'S PERMEABLE.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, COVERING THE STAIRS BECAUSE I DON'T FIND THE STAIRS BEING AESTHETIC FOR THE FACADE.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE LIKE A TOO HARD SURFACE THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THAT, UH, METAL, METAL PANEL, UM, A RESTROOM.
LIKE THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THE STREET, UH, LIKE MORE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND THEN YOU SEE ALL THE CIRCULATION, THE OPEN CIRCULATION TO THE SIDE AND THE REAR THE SIDE.
WELL, NO, THAT'S LIKE, LIKE A, A LOOK FROM, FROM THE ROOF.
UH, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE MAIN, UH, IDEA OF THE, OF THE AESTHETIC OF THE BUILDING.
THEN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT CONCRETE TEXTURES, THE BLACK PLATE CLADDING IN, IN THE GROUND FLOOR AND THE, THE WOOD COLOR IN THE FRONT
I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD SUMMARY OF, TO MAKE IT PAST, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND.
UM, THANK YOU TO, UH, DO YOU WANNA BEGIN AND THAT ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I, THAT WAS JUST THE MAIN POINTS.
THAT'S THE MAIN POINT TO SEE IF YOU, UH, HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN.
I, YEAH, I CAN ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS.
SO, UM, I WAS JUST QUICKLY LOOKING AT DEMORA TOO, 'CAUSE I ASSUMED THERE WAS GONNA BE A SIMILAR ARCHITECTURAL AESTHETIC, WHICH THERE IS.
UM, SO I, I WANNA SAY THAT IN TERMS OF THE TRELLIS IN THE FRONT, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S SA IT IS, BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT I THINK IF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WASN'T THE MOST PROMINENT FEATURE, UH, THAT IT WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER.
UM, AND SO FIGURING OUT HOW DOES IT FEEL COHESIVE WITH THE DESIGN WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OVER THE TOP OF THE ELEVATOR, UM, AND THE OTHER MASS.
AND SO DOES IT, HOW DOES IT GET LOWERED BUT STILL FEEL INTEGRAL? I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT, UM, MY OTHER COMMENTS ARE A BIT OF A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GUYS, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOUR PRESENTATION FROM YOU BEFORE.
YOU VERY CLEARLY HAVE A DESIGN AESTHETIC.
ONE THAT I WOULD SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, TO BE SOMETHING MAYBE MORE LIKE SOUTH AMERICAN THAN MIAMI, JUST FROM THE COLORS, THE MATERIAL PALETTE.
I, I THINK THAT THERE'S, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE EXPOSED CONCRETE SORT OF THESE HEAVY, UM, DARK MATERIALS IN SOME PLACES, AND THEN SORT OF A LIGHTER, UH, YOU SAY NATURAL MATERIALS.
BUT I, I KNOW, I SEE THAT IT'S ALUMINUM WOOD COLORED FINS.
BECAUSE OF LIKE THE, THE, HOW IT LAST, UH, RIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE APPROACH AND I THINK THAT THE COLOR PALETTE IS VERY THOUGHTFUL AND ONE THAT I COULD GET BEHIND.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE REALLY APPROVED OR SUPPORTED IN MIAMI BEACH.
SO IT, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, MAYBE ONE SINCE WE'RE HERE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE REMAINING BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, IS, YOU KNOW, IF OUR GOAL IS TO QUESTION HOW DO THESE HOUSES BECOME, YOU KNOW, MIAMI BEACH AND HOW ARE WE, UM, SUPPORTING THAT LANGUAGE WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING ARTISTIC AND DESIGN FREEDOM, UH, WITHIN THE PROPOSALS THAT COME IN FRONT OF US.
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I THINK IF, IF THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL, THEN MY RESPONSE WOULD BE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS, UM, NEED TO BE BECOME, UH, LIGHTER AND AND BRIGHTER.AND SO IT'S NOT ABOUT A DARK AND DARK CONTRAST, BUT A LIGHT AND THEN A, A NATURAL CONTRAST.
UM, I DON'T, I, I'LL END THERE AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR BOTH PROJECTS WHEN WE GET TO IT.
I'M, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH SHAUNA THAT, UM, THIS, IT'S, IT STRUCK ME THAT YOU TALK ABOUT WANTING TO USE NATURAL MATERIALS BECAUSE MY FIRST IMPRESSION OF THIS BUILDING IS THAT THIS IS A VERY INDUSTRIAL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS SITE, IS I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA OF TOWN THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME REDEVELOPMENT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LOT OF SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS.
UH, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I DO APPRECIATE ABOUT YOUR DESIGN IS THAT YOU'VE DESIGNED IT ON ALL SIDES.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SEEN FROM ALL SIDES FOR A WHILE.
I, I FEEL LIKE THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS IN A DIFFERENT CITY.
IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IN, ITS, IT'S VERY DARK, IT'S VERY INDUSTRIAL.
UM, I WANT IT TO BE MORE INVITING THAN I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE IT IS YOU COLORS.
AND I UNDERSTAND IF YOU CAN YOU BRING UP, I GUESS IT'S SLIDE 15 IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO IT SHOWS OH NO, THE ONE BEFORE THAT OR AFTER THAT.
UM, YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH STAFF ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE TRELLIS.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS REALLY MASSIVE CONCRETE ENCASED COLUMN AND THEN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, IT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST READS A SORT OF CONCRETE BLOCK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THERE.
IT JUST, LIKE I SAID, IT FEELS REALLY INDUSTRIAL AND MAYBE EVEN THERE ARE PARTS OF MIAMI THAT THIS MIGHT SORT OF WORK, BUT IN THIS AREA, IN, IN THIS, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH, IT, IT NEEDS TO BE LESS INDUSTRIAL AND MORE PERFECT.
SO THAT, THAT PART, THE CONCRETE HAS THE WOOD TEXTURE, BUT IT'S LIKE THE CONCRETE WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
IT'S BOARD FORM WOOD CONCRETE.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND SO I AGREE THAT IT, IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT INDUSTRIAL.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WHAT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO EXPRESS, AND ALSO AN INTENTFUL WITH THE MATERIALS THAT, THAT IS AN EXPRESSION OF THE MATERIAL, RIGHT.
WHICH A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T SEE HERE.
SO I'M WONDERING, WITHOUT BEING ARTIFICIAL IN OUR FEEDBACK, LIKE HOW DO WE MAYBE MAINTAIN THE EXPOSED BOARD, UM, FORMED CONCRETE, BUT THESE BIG, UM, SORT OF BOLD, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE HORIZONTAL LINES AND, AND FRAMES AROUND IT IF THEY BECOME LIGHTER OR IF THEY HAVE A SOFT COLOR HUE TO THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE TRELLIS, UH, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO CHANGE MATERIAL, BUT IT FEELS INDUSTRIAL WHEN IT'S BLACK OR IF IT WAS RAW, BUT AGAIN, IF IT WAS WHITE OR THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE, SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT ACTUALLY HELPS MORE IN THE INDUSTRIAL LOOK.
WE CAN PLAY WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE COLORS, MAINTAINING THE TEXTURES.
UM, SO ARE YOU PROPOSING AESTHETIC IN GENERAL A TWO-WAY? CONCRETE'S SLAB? SORRY? ARE YOU PROPOSING A TWO-WAY CONCRETE SLAB SYSTEM? YEAH.
I MEAN, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT THAT'S BAD, THAT I THINK IS GOOD DESIGN.
WE DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND EXPOSING THE STRUCTURE.
SO I I, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN DO IT THAT JUST MAYBE MAKES IT FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE MY MP
WE'RE GONNA PREPARE OPTIONS AND TO PRESENT TO ROGELIO.
I THINK THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY WHAT THEY LIKE
I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'M NOT A WORKING ARCHITECT, SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, RELYING ON RENDERINGS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RENDERING, THE, THE WOOD TOO.
IT'S, IT, IT, IT, THE RENDERING IS NOT DOING JUSTICE.
THE TONES OF THE WOOD JUST, THEY DON'T, IT CAN BE LIGHTER TOO.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING FOR NATURAL, A COMBINATION OF NATURAL AND INDUSTRIAL, WHICH I THINK IS LITERALLY WHAT THE BOARD CONCRETE PRESS CONCRETE DOES, I DON'T QUITE SEE THAT HERE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF SOFTENING OR LIGHTNING OR SOMETHING.
SORRY, JUST TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE BOTH THE FORM IS HARD AND RIGID AND THEN THE MATERIALS, RIGHT? SO LIKE, UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, A BUILDING ON U UN'S CAMPUS BY ARCHITECT ANNICA, WHERE IT IS ALL BOARD FORM CONCRETE, BUT THEN IT HAS THIS SORT OF DELICATELY CURVED ROOF THAT SOFTENS IT SO IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU YEAH.
SOMETHING THAT HELPS WEAR, YEAH.
SO, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO THAT MAKES IT THAT HARD.
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PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO PUT IT.
AND I WOULD JUST EXPLORE THE MATERIALS.
'CAUSE EVEN THE GLASS IS, IT'S, IT'S ALL VERY JUST HARD AND ANGULAR AND, YEAH.
I DUNNO, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY'RE SAYING
LIKE I, I LOVE THAT YOU SEE IT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES THAT IT'S INTERESTING.
UM, YEAH, THE TRS DEFINITELY SEEMS TO OVERWHELM EVERYTHING THOUGH.
AND, UM, BUT I LIKE A LOT OF THE, I LIKE A LOT OF THE, IT'S INTERESTING AND, UM, YEAH, IT IS A CHALLENGING LOT BECAUSE IT'S VERY SMALL, VERY RESTRICTED.
BUT YES, WE ARE OPEN TO, TO YOUR OPINIONS, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO, TO YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS THE BEST STRUCTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND FOR YOU AND YOUR CLIENT, WHOEVER, UM, REALLY, SHE'D MENTIONED THAT THE STAIRS HAVE TO BE IN THE FRONT FOR THE ZONING, THE, THE UNDERSTORY REGULATIONS IN THE ARM.
ONE DISTRICT, UH, HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE STAIRS BE LOCATED BEFORE THE ELEVATOR, I BELIEVE IS THE, IS THE REQUIREMENT.
AND WHY IS THAT? JUST, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO USE STAIRS.
IT'S SORT OF AN ACTIVE DESIGN, UH, GUIDELINE.
AND THEN FROM A DESIGN FEATURE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE ELEVATOR, UH, ELEVATOR, WELL AS THE PROMINENT FEATURE IN THE FRONT, THAT, THAT BE MORE LOCATED TOWARDS THE BACK, UM, AND NOT BE THE PROMINENT FRONT WHERE YOU JUST HAVE A, A BLANK COLUMN GOING ALL THE WAY UP.
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE STAIRS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE UNATTRACTIVE THAN MM-HMM.
LIKE WE TRY TO PUT IT, UM, IN THE, LIKE MORE IN THE HALFWAY OF THE APARTMENTS.
THEY WERE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH, UH, PART OF THE CODE, WE'LL, WE'LL SAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE FRONT BECAUSE WE TRIED TO PUT IT MORE LIKE BEHIND, INITIALLY WE HAD IT BACKWARDS.
WE HAD THE ELEVATOR BEFORE UP FRONT, CLOSE TO THE FACADE AND THEN THE STAIRWAY BEHIND IT.
BUT THEN WE FOLLOW THE, THE
THAT'S SUCH AN, IT'S AN INTERESTING CODE DECISION.
I AM I WRONG? LIKE I, I JUST THINK PUTTING A STA IS, YOU KNOW, THE FEATURE IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING, IT'S AN, YOU WANNA SEE A DOOR BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, IT'S CIRCULATION.
WELL, AND I GUESS WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING MORE OF THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME SITUATION IN THE OTHER ONE.
WELL, AND ALSO OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SEEING TO HAVE THE STA YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE MY, MY, ONE OF MY FIRST REACTIONS, NOT JUST WITH THIS, BUT WITH OTHER ONES YOU'VE SEEN, IS DON'T PUT THE STAIRS, NOT THE DOMINANT STREET SIDE ELEMENT.
THERE IS NOT MUCH THAT YOU CAN DO WITH, WITH THAT ELEMENT THAT IT GOES ALL THROUGH.
HERE WE HAVE THE, THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT SAYS, FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE ARMED DISTRICTS, IF THERE IS AN UNDERSTORY LEVEL, AT LEAST ONCE THERE SHALL BE VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE FROM THE BUILDING'S MAIN LOBBY, WHETHER INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR SHALL PROVIDE ACCESS TO ALL UPPER FLOORS, SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY TRANSPARENT AT THE GROUND LEVEL AND SHALL BE LOCATED BEFORE ACCESS TO ELEVATORS FROM THE MAIN BUILDING LOBBY ALONG THE PRINCIPAL PATH OF TRAVEL FROM THE STREET.
SO, SO THE STAIRWELL ITSELF CAN BE ENCLOSED JUST NOT THE INITIAL, THE THE FIRST SET OF TREAD.
LIKE THE FIRST STORY, LIKE THE FIRST STORY HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT OR THE WHOLE THING HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT, SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY TRANSPARENT AT THE GROUND, AT THE GROUND, AT THE GROUND LEVEL, AND SHALL BE LOCATED BEFORE ACCESS TO THE ELEVATORS FROM THE MAIN LOBBY.
BECAUSE YOU'D ALSO THINK THAT YOU'D WANT THE STAIRWELL ENCLOSED AND AIR CONDITIONED BE PROTECTED FROM THE RAIN.
I MEAN, HOW ANNOYING WOULD YOU NOT CLIMBING? YOU HAVE TO WALK UP FOUR FLIGHTS OF STAIRS AND IT'S POURING RAIN AND YOU'VE GOT GROCERIES.
UH, AND THE THING IS, MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PARKING UNDER THE STRUCTURE, SO THEY'RE GONNA GET TO THE ELEVATOR BEFORE THE STAIRS.
UNLESS THEY'RE WALKING IN FROM THE STREET, BUT IT'S THE STAIRS THAT ARE ON THE STREET.
SO IS THAT, DID YOU, IS THAT I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THOSE, THOSE COMMENTS APPLY TO BOTH PROJECTS.
THE ONLY DOWN THAT I HAVE WITH THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WE CREATED, UH, IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS ONE IN CERTAIN WAY.
WE HAVE THE CORRIDORS IN THE LATERAL, UM, AND WE CREATED, I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN ACCESS HERE.
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NO.AND, AND SO IN THE OTHER PROJECT WE DID HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE, UH, THE SCREENING OF THE GROUND FLOOR ELEVATION.
UM, THEY USED SCREENING, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND BRING IT UP THE, THE SAME MATERIAL THAT'S AT THE, THAT SCREENS THE WHOLE GROUND FLOOR ALSO SCREENS THE ELEVATOR COLUMN, UM, THE, SORRY, THE STAIRWELL COLUMN.
AND, UH, AND STAFF FELT THAT THAT ALSO OVERWHELMED THAT FACADE AND THAT PERHAPS A DIFFERENT TREATMENT CAN BE USED FOR THE, UH, FOR THE GROUND LEVEL THAN WHAT IS USED FOR THE, FOR THE COLUMN.
AND ALSO, AS WE'VE HAD, UH, SCREENING ALONG THE WHOLE PERIMETER OF THE, OF THE GROUND FLOOR, ANYTIME YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER PRESENTATION, I THINK THE STAIRWELL, CHRIS IS HERE.
UM, CAN WE LOAD THE OTHER PRESENTATION? YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.
THEY'RE GONNA PRESS ESCAPE, ESCAPE THERE, CLICK FIRST ON THE SCREEN AND THEN PRESS ESCAPE.
AND THEN GO TO THE FOLDER THAT'S ALREADY OPEN THERE.
I CAN THEN, YEAH, THE BOTTOM AND THEN THE LAST ONE PRESENT SHOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT ONE.
ON THE TOP RIGHT, YOU CAN FULL SCREEN IT.
WELL, SIMILAR SITUATION WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND MORE UNITS.
I'M GONNA GO TO THE RENDERS WALL PAPER, WHATEVER THAT IS, THIS STRIKE.
SIMILARLY, YEAH, WITH THE, WITH THE CORRIDORS ON THE SIDE.
I THOUGHT, UM, WELL, SAME, SAME IDEA, SAME OR SIMILAR MATERIALS, UH, APPLIED DIFFERENTLY.
UH, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A SCREENING THAT IT'S A SORT OF DYNAMIC COVERING THE STAIRS, SO YOU'RE NOT SO OBVIOUS TO HAVE A STAIR THERE.
TRYING TO HIDE IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, TRYING TO PLAY WITH THIS, UM, WOOD, IT'S NOT REAL WOOD, IT'S ALUMINUM.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO, UM, PROPOSING A SCREENING WITH GREEN NATURAL GREEN PLANTS, UH, LINKED WITH DIFFERENT, UH, IRON, UH, WIRES AND CHAINS.
I'M GONNA SHOW THE SIDE OF IT.
OH, WELL THIS IS, THIS WILL BE LIKE THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
IT IS OPEN, BUT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A BIOPHILIC FEELING FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE THERE TO HAVE FRESH SHADOWING.
THAT'S BETWEEN THE STAIRWELL, BUT, AND THE ENT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S LIKE THE ENTRANCE TO THEIR APARTMENTS.
THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE CORRIDOR FROM THE ELEVATOR ON THE STAIRWELL TO THE, TO BE MORE PROTECTED FROM THE HEAT, THE SUN AND HAVE MORE, UH, NATURAL GREEN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TO HAVE THAT SCREEN THAT IS GONNA BE BUILDING UP WITH, WITH, WITH THE PLANTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAD BEFORE WITH THE GREEN WALLS.
BUT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THAT NATURAL GROWING, UM, AND IT WILL BE MORE TRANSPIRING AND IN CONTRAST TO THE ONE PREVIOUSLY WHERE THIS ONE, IT'S NOT THE IDEA TO HAVE LIKE A FULL GREEN SCREEN.
WELL, I, I THINK THIS ONE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR IF SOME THINGS DON'T GROW AS WELL, LIKE THIS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR ERROR.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD LOOK INTERESTING WITHOUT THE GREEN.
AND, AND ALSO AT THE SAME WAY, THIS ONE IS NOT LOCATED ON THE FRONT FACADE BEING THE MAIN POINT ON THE BUILDING, WHICH IS ON THE SIDE AND IS IN ORDER TO CREATE A MORE BIOPHILIC FEELING FOR THE HABITATS.
SO YOU HAVE THE BREEZE AND YOUR COVER, IT, IT STOPS A LITTLE BIT, THE RAIN BEING AN OPEN CORRIDOR.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY HELPED, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE OF WHAT I HEARD BEFORE, JUST IN CASE.
UM, AND THE IDEA IS THE SAME, TO HAVE LIKE A, A, UM, A COMMON C CHECK WE SEE ON AT THE ROOFTOP
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AND TO HAVE THOSE SHADOWS WITH THOSE, UH, WOOD TANKS.AND THESE ARE GONNA BE RENTALS OR CONDOS, RENTALS.
OH NO, THEY'RE GONNA BE A CONDO.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT LIKE, LIKE AS MUCH GREEN AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE IN MIAMI BEACH AND WE LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF NATURE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALL THAT BACKGROUND IN THE FRONT AND ADDING MORE GREEN TOO.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO CLARIFY.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONCRETE TOO, IF WE, IF YOU WANT TO, TO CHANGE THAT OR TO ADDRESS THAT WITH DIFFERENT APPROACH.
I THINK I, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S COMMENT ABOUT THE, UM, THE SCREENING.
I, I DO LIKE THE RHYTHM THAT IT HAS, AND I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING GESTURE THAT THIS IS THE STAIRWELL AND SO THERE'S A RHYTHM OF GOING UP AND YOU HAVE THE RHYTHM IN THE ALUMINUM.
UM, YEAH, I WOULD, I, I REALLY LIKE IT AS THE STAIRWELL COLUMN, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IT, IT IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH AROUND THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
SO I, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO SORT OF REWORK.
AND ALSO, UM, YEAH, I ALSO, AGAIN, THE, THE REAR, IT JUST, IT FEELS VERY SEVERE TO ME.
UM, IS THAT THE, THE DETAIL THAT IS, UM, IS THAT ALSO THE ALUMINUM STRUCTURE OR IS IT WOOD? IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE FROM THE PICTURE THAT YOU PROVIDED.
BUT IT'S AN, IT'S WITH ALUMINUM MATERIAL, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE RHYTHM OF THE, THE, THE TOWER.
IT HAS, IT HAS THAT SAME PATTERN.
I THINK IT'S THE SAME APPLICATION.
THE, THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, UM, THAT THE WALL BETWEEN THE TWO GLASS DOORS IS KIND OF A, LIKE A BIG WALL.
LIKE CAN YOU ADD MORE OPENNESS TO THAT OR? WE HAVE THE KITCHEN BEHIND THAT WALL UHHUH, SO WE HAVE THE COUNTERTOPS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE WALL.
WE, WE CAN ADD A WIN, LIKE A BACKSPLASH WINDOW.
A BACKSPLASH WINDOW OR SOMETHING WOULD BE AMAZING.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S JUST A BIG STARK WALL.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME NOT TO HAVE MORE LIGHT, THAT THAT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND ELEGANT SOLUTION.
IT'S DONE IN REALLY HIGH END HOUSES AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY A COOL THING.
WE, WE CAN END THE THAT WOULD BE NICE.
AND ALSO BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET AN INTERESTING, I KNOW THAT A BACK SPLASH IS NOT EYE LEVEL UNLESS YOU'RE SHORT LIKE I AM.
BUT UM, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING VIEW TOO.
AGAIN, IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH, WHAT IS IT FACING NORTH? WELL, THAT WILL BE FACING THE, THE, THE NEIGHBOR, THE THE REAR NEIGHBOR.
OH, THERE'S A BUILDING BEHIND IT, CORRECT.
BUT STILL, I LIKE THE, I DO AGREE THAT THE WALL SHOULD BE BROKE UP, BUT THEY HAVE A BALCONY, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY DO HAVE BALCONY.
HOW WIDE ARE THOSE BALCONIES? THREE FEET WIDE.
SO THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF CATWALK THINGS AND THERE'S NO, ARE ARE THEY, ARE THOSE SLIDING GLASS DOORS TO ACCESS THEM OR NO? IS THERE YES, ACCESS IS FROM THE LIVING ROOM FOR SURE.
SO FOR SURE IF THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING A BLANK WALL WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON A BALCONY TOO, IS, IT'S JUST, IT'S SAD
SO I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN THE KITCHEN AND THE BALCONY.
ONE OF THESE LIGHTING DOORS, UH, BELONGS TO THE LIVING ROOM AND THE, AND THE OTHER SLIDING DOOR IS TO THE MASTER BEDROOM.
ARE YOU GUYS PROPOSING A METAL STRUCTURE OR IS THE HORIZONTAL LINES THE HORIZON JUST APPLIED IS JUST, UH, IT'S A C CHANNEL TRIM IN, IT'S JUST APPLIED, CORRECT.
IT'S NOT A TRUCTURE OF THE BALCONY.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT A STRUCTURAL ONE.
SO I GUESS AGAIN, I OVERALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THESE TWO DESIGNS ARE VERY THOUGHTFUL.
I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE COLOR, YOU KNOW, OF THOSE WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE MOMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE CREATED IN TERMS OF THE LINES AND THE RHYTHM OR THE FEATURES, WHAT ARE THEIR COLORS AND WHAT IS THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE OTHER MATERIAL NEXT TO IT? SO I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE ACTUALLY THE BOARD FORMED CONCRETE GO AWAY, BUT HOW COULD YOU, THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE MAKE IT FEEL MORE REFINED VERSUS, UM, INDUSTRIAL.
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I THINK THAT YOU'RE, YOU CAN DO THAT VERY EASILY WITH A COUPLE, UM, ADJUSTMENTS AND, AND EVEN, UH, USING COLOR AND SHADOW AND LIGHT ON, ON YOUR AS A TOOL.'CAUSE WE CAN, WE HAVE TIME NOW TO WORK ON THAT FOR SEPTEMBER PERFECTLY.
SO YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
UM, I ALSO KEEP THINKING ABOUT HOW THE, THE DENVER THREE IS SO CLOSE TO THE INTERNATIONAL INN.
DO YOU KNOW, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUILDING? MM-HMM.
IT'S THIS FANTASTIC MID-CENTURY AND IT'S, I JUST KEEP THINKING HOW IT'S THE COM IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE OPPOSITE OF THIS, THAT IT'S VERY LIGHT AND AIRY AND TRANSPARENT.
AND, AND THIS IS SO, IT, IT, IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE NOW.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN, IF THERE'S A WAY TO BLEND THESE TWO, BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND, AND I MEAN THEY WERE WORKING, YOU KNOW, MID-CENTURY WITH TRUTH TO MATERIALS AND, AND A, A BIT OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING WITH THE LIGHTNESS OR I, I TAKE A LOOK TO SEE THROWING THERE.
SEE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CERTAINLY THERE'S PLENTY OF INSPIRATION ALL OVER THE CITY FOR WAYS TO INCORPORATE, TO COME UP WITH MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VOCABULARY.
AND DID YOU, DID YOU WANNA HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES.
AH, HOW DO WE DO THAT? ALTHOUGH WE RAN OUT OF QUORUM.
UM, YEAH, WELL, SINCE YOU HAVEN'T REALLY MADE ANY, WELL, SINCE YOU'RE NOT MAKING, GONNA BE MAKING ANY DECISIONS ABOUT IT, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE, UM, SHOULD BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
WHERE IT CAN GO OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD.