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IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM TODAY, UH, AS WELL AS A FAIRLY LONG AGENDA, SO I'M GOING TO GET RIGHT TO IT AND TURN IT OVER TO, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT'S STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR.
THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 5 4 4, SORRY, NINE NINE.
8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS A TOLL FREE NUMBER.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE THAT ARE TESTIFYING TODAY, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE SPEAKING TO THE BOARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON YOUR BEHALF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
IF YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE TESTIFYING TODAY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND SO I COULD ADMINISTER THE OATH AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ANYONE ELSE GONNA BE TESTIFYING? THANK YOU.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
THANK YOU, AND PLEASE BE SEATED.
AND WITH THAT, UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
NOW, MOVING ON TO, TO DISCUSSION LIO.
SO, UM, FIRST OF, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS PRESENT, SO WE HAVE A FULL BOARD.
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MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS D RRB 23 DASH 0 9 5 8, THAT'S FOR 4 28 SOUTH HIBISCUS DRIVE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.UM, SO THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY IN CASE YOU'RE ONLINE, UH, EXPECTING TO HEAR THAT ITEM.
THAT'S FOUR TO SIX STAR ISLAND DRIVE, UM, THAT WAS ALREADY LISTED AS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
THE ITEM, UM, WILL, IS REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED INDEFINITELY, SO NO ACTION IS NECESSARY.
WE'LL RE-NOTICE IT TO THE PUBLIC ONCE THE ITEM IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT'S AS A RESULT OF CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO MAKE TO THE DESIGN OF THE HOME.
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AHEAD AND PROCEED TO THE FIRST TIME.DO WE HAVE TO DO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? OH, YEP.
YEAH, IF YOU'RE, IF WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
OKAY, MS. LUEN, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
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AND THEN I GUESS WE CAN PROCEED TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA.GISELLE, IF YOU WANNA READ THAT IN, THE FIRST ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 23 DASH 0 9 68 CITYWIDE
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DIGITAL INFORMATION KIOSK.AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE DESIGN OF A DIGITAL INFORMATION KIOSK TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AT THE FOLLOWING APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS, CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE IN 19TH STREET AND LINCOLN ROAD AND ALTON ROAD.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM APRIL 2ND, 2024, JUNE 4TH, AND JUNE 2ND MEETING.
OKAY, SO THIS ITEM CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ISSUED BY THIS MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION, UH, BACK IN 2022.
UH, FOR DIGITAL INFORMATION KIOSKS, THESE ARE BECOMING MORE COMMON IN CITIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
UM, BASICALLY THIS WILL BE A, UH, EIGHT FOOT, THREE AND A HALF INCH TALL BY THREE FOOT, 3.5 INCH WIDE, UH, WITH JUST OVER A FOOT IN DEPTH, UH, DIGITAL KIOSK.
UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE, UH, UH, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO WALK UP TO IT AND IT WILL BE INTERACTIVE.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE SCREEN TO GET INFORMATION ON RESTAURANTS, ANOTHER INFORMATION IN THE VICINITY.
IT WILL OFFER FREE WIFI, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UH, VERY HELPFUL FOR TOURISTS THAT MAY NOT HAVE, UH, CELL SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, IT HAS AN EMERGENCY CALL SYSTEM, UH, AND A AND A WHOLE RANGE OF OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR IT.
WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE, UH, IT CAN DISPLAY CITY MESSAGING AND IT DOES DISPLAY SOME ADVERTISING, WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT FUNDS THE COST OF THE SYSTEM.
UH, THE KIOSK WILL BE IN A GRAY COLOR, HAVE THE STREET NAME ON TOP, UH, AND A WAVE PATTERN ON THE SIDE.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE A DESCRIPTION FROM THE, FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, THERE ARE ONLY TWO LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, GISELLE MENTIONED THOSE ADDRESSES.
ONE IS IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, ANOTHER ONE'S ON ALTON ROAD AND LINCOLN ROAD.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
I BELIEVE THERE'S 11 IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO ONLY A FEW WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WHICH IS, WHICH ARE THE TWO THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY.
UH, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE ITEM BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONTI CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND BEFORE WE START, UH, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY DISCLOSURES AT THIS TIME? NO.
UM, IS THE MICROPHONE ON? YES.
SO, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, 200 SOUTHEAST KING BOULEVARD, HEARSAY TODAY, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
AND I DO HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT SUMMER.
I KNOW I DID, HAD SOME FUN SUMMER VACATIONS, BUT NOW BACK TO THE GRIND.
UM, I'M HERE TODAY WITH GIRAN MARISSA FROM THE APPLICANT, ALSO OUR ARCHITECT, WILLIAM LANE, WHO IS FAMOUS FOR HIS LIFEGUARD STANDS AMONG OTHER THINGS, AND HIS LENGTHY, SUBSTANTIAL CAREER HERE ON THE BEACH AND OTHER CITIES.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MY COLLEAGUE, UH, EMILY BALTER.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL TODAY TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE COMPANY HISTORY AND WHY THEY BELIEVE THAT WE, THEY ARE ADDING SUCH GREAT VALUE HERE TO MIAMI BEACH.
THE, THE APPLICATION WAS SCHEDULED TO GO TO YOU ALL MANY MONTHS AGO, BUT WE DECIDED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND DO SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO STAKEHOLDERS, NEIGHBORS, AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN ADVANCE OF OUR MEETING WITH YOU TODAY.
THE DESIGN OF THE KIOSK HAS CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE IT WAS FIRST, UH, UH, SHOWN TO THE SO PRESERVATION BOARD.
AND NOW TO YOU ALL, WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL APPRECIATE THE DESIGN AND WILLIAM LANE'S INTENT.
HE WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN TEAM, BUT AFTER GETTING CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE FROM BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF, WE ADDED A BILL AND WE, I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER WITH THE RESULT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GIRAN AND HAVE HIM TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE COMPANY HISTORY AND OTHER THINGS.
UM, MY NAME IS GIRON, SHE, MOHAMMAD.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOR IKE SMART CITY.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD STAFF AND MICHAEL FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
EXCITED TO SHOW YOU OUR PROJECT.
UM, SO IKE WAS FOUNDED EIGHT YEARS AGO WITH THE INTENTION OF DEVELOPING THE MOST, UH, INNOVATIVE AND EFFECTIVE CITY COMMUNICATION PLATFORM IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, WE'VE NOW INSTALLED IN OVER 20 CITIES ACROSS THE NATION, INSTALLING IN FIVE ADDITIONAL ONES IN THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS, INCLUDING MANY CITIES IN, UM, SOUTH FLORIDA.
UM, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW THE PROJECT WORKS, YOU WALK UP TO THE SCREEN AND YOU TAP IT AND IT UNLOCKS, AND IT REVEALS A SERIES OF APPLICATIONS THAT HELP YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE TO EAT AND DRINK, WHERE TO SHOP, WHERE TO PLAY, WHERE TO STAY, HOW TO NAVIGATE TO THE DESTINATION THAT YOU'VE SELECTED, WHERE TO FIND FOOD AID, ADDICTION, RECOVERY, RESOURCES, AND OTHER SERVICES THAT THE CITY OFFERS.
WHEN YOU SELECT EAT AND DRINK, INSTEAD OF ORGANIZING BASED ON WHOEVER'S ABLE TO PAY FOR ELEVATED PLACEMENT, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS NORMALLY ON SEARCH ENGINES OR MAPPING OPTIONS ON YOUR PHONE, YOU SELECT EAT AND DRINK AND IT ORGANIZES BASED ON PROXIMITY.
SO ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO YOU.
NO COMPANY, NO BUSINESS IS ABLE TO PAY FOR ELEVATED PLACEMENT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND MIAMI BEACH, THE BEST COFFEE SHOP ISN'T ALWAYS STARBUCKS.
AND THE BEST SANDWICH SHOP ISN'T ALWAYS PANERA, EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE GREAT OPTIONS.
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INTENTION IS TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DISCOVER THE CITY, FIND YOUR LOCAL GEMS AND THE THINGS THAT MAKE YOUR CITY TRULY UNIQUE.UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID, UM, THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS ACROSS THE, UH, THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE THE LOCAL BUSINESSES BEING FEATURED ON THE KIOSK, BUT THAT WE'RE SHOWING CONTENT THAT MAKES THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES FEEL, UM, UH, UH, SHOWN THE IN THE LIGHT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE PHOTOS OF THE BUSINESSES ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT REFLECT THE MOST RECENT INVENTORY.
IF THEY HAVE COUPONS, IF THEY HAVE OTHER PROMOTIONS THAT THEY WANNA SERVE ON THE KIOSK, NEW BUSINESS HOURS ARE ALL GONNA BE AVAILABLE.
UM, AGAIN, UPDATEABLE IN REAL TIME.
ONCE YOU SELECT WHERE TO EVEN DRINK, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.
ONCE YOU SELECT WHERE TO EAT AND DRINK, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO SELECT, UM, UH, TO ROUTE A DESTINATION, A TRIP PLAN TO GET TO THAT DESTINATION.
IT'LL AGGREGATE ALL OF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE, AND WE'LL AGGREGATE MICRO TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IT MAY SAY, TAKE THE BUS THREE BLOCKS, AND THEN FROM THAT DESTINATION, THERE'S A BIKE SHARE STATION WITH THREE BIKES AVAILABLE AT THE DOCK.
AND THEN YOU CAN SELECT ONE OF THE BIKES, AND THEN WE'LL SAY, TAKE THIS BIKE THE LAST TWO BLOCKS, AND THERE'S A DOCKING STATION THAT'S EMPTY, AND YOU CAN DOCK YOUR BIKE AT THAT DESTINATION AS WELL.
SO GIVING YOU REAL, UM, REAL TIME INFORMATION ON HOW TO USE ALL OF THE VARIOUS PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY.
UM, ALSO THE KIOSK HAS A SECURITY CAMERA ON THE TOP AND HAS A LIGHT SENSOR NEXT TO THAT SECURITY CAMERA.
AS A RESULT, THE LIGHT SENSOR PICKS UP AMBIENT LIGHT CONDITIONS AND DIMS THE KIOSK ACCORDING TO LIGHT CONDITIONS SO THAT THE KIOSK IS NEVER GONNA BE BRIGHTER THAN STREET LIGHTS OR AMBIENT LIGHT CONDITIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
YOU ALSO HAVE AN EMERGENCY CALL BUTTON ON THE SPINE THAT YOU CAN PUSH AND IT'LL DISPATCH EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UM, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU PUSH THAT BUTTON FROM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU, UM, AS YOU'RE THERE.
UM, AS AS, UH, MICHAEL POINTED OUT, WE WORKED, UH, CLOSELY WITH, UH, WITH MR. WILLIAM LANE TO REVISE THE HARDWARE AND THE KIOSK CABINET TO REFLECT THE MIAMI BEACH AESTHETIC.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. LANE TO COME AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON TOGETHER.
ALRIGHT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SWITCH THE PRESENTATION, SO HOLD ON.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, OR GOOD MORNING, WILLIAM LANE ARCHITECT.
UM, I WAS, UH, VERY EXCITED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE TEAM.
UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SEE AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE'S MANY OF THESE, AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE BLACK, THEY'RE VERY UNIFORM, VERY MONOLITHIC.
SO WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO DO A DIFFERENT VERSION THAT WOULD BE UNIQUE TO THE MIAMI BEACH, WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MIGHT CHARACTERIZE THE BEACH.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE VERY NORMAL ONES, WHICH ARE CLOUD FORMATIONS AND THE WAVES, BUT WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT MID-CENTURY ARCHITECTURE, AND WE WANTED TO REFLECT THE UNIQUE CULTURE AND SUPPORT OF GREAT ARCHITECTURE THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH IS KNOWN FOR.
AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE THE INTENTS WITH GOING BACK TO ACTUALLY THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT FORM.
SO, UH, IN, DURING THIS, WE, UH, WE TRIED TO MAKE SOME SIMPLE THINGS BECAUSE, UM, WE DID WANT TO KEEP, WE WERE ASKED TO KEEP THE BASIC FUNCTIONALITY AND SIZE OF THE CABINET.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE DID A VERY SIMPLE, WE'RE HAVING A BIT OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.
THEY'RE TRYING TO UPLOAD THE NEW RENDERING.
IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, AND, UH, THE TEAM IS WORKING TO UPLOAD THE NEW, THE RENDERING THAT MR. LANE WORKED ON.
SO IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE US ONE MOMENT TO RESOLVE THE TECHNICAL ISSUES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MAYBE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, IMAGES OF THE PROPOSED, BUT WE, UH, DID A COUPLE, UH, A VERY SIMPLE MOVE, WHICH WAS TO ADD A CURVED, UH, EDGE TO ONE OF THE SIDES.
UH, THE OTHER ONE WAS TO USE A LIGHTER METALLIC COLOR THAN THE BLACK COLOR THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REFERENCES THAT WE SAW, UH, BESIDES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MID-CENTURY AND THE CLOUDS WERE ALSO THE OUTLINE OF THE ISLAND ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE THE BEACH LINE RELATIVELY STRAIGHT.
THE OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BUILDUPS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE WEST SIDE.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO ALSO LOOK AT THIS SPECIFICALLY AS STREET FURNITURE, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN JUST BEING INNOCUOUS AND BLENDING INTO A MORE URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND, YOU KNOW, LARGER CITIES.
WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD, UH, ANOTHER ELEMENT OF WHIMSY, UH, WHERE WE SAW THE KIOSK AS STREET FURNITURE AND THEREFORE KIND OF, UM, SCALED TO HUMAN USE AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS AN INFORMATION ELEMENT.
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IT WITH A ANTHROPOMORPHIC FEELING.SO WITHIN THE READING, THERE MIGHT BE SOME NATURE, SOME, UH, REFERENCES TO THE ISLAND, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A SURREALISM WHERE WE, WE KIND OF IMAGINED IT AS ACTUALLY BEING SOMETHING THAT SPOKE TO YOU.
UM, THE COLOR, UH, THE COLOR, AGAIN, GOES BACK TO A MORE TROPICAL CITY.
UH, WE LOOKED AT, OF COURSE, THE WHITENESS ALLOWED THE ARCHITECTURE HERE, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE SECONDARY ELEMENTS, WHICH IS ALUMINUM, A LIGHT COLORED, UH, ANODIZED ALUMINUM.
SO, UM, ALL OF THEM, WE HAD DONE TWO FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH I'LL GET INTO LATER, BUT ALL OF THEM HAVE A CONTINUOUS, UH, ALUMINUM CLEAR ALUMINUM BAND OR STAINLESS STEEL.
AND THESE, UM, IN A WAY MO REFERENCE SOME OF THE OLDER PROTOTYPES FOR THE IPHONE.
SO AGAIN, WE SAW IT AS LIKE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION FEATURE.
AND, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF COLOR, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA SHOW THE COLOR ONE, BUT WE DID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID GO AHEAD AND WE DID DESIGN MAYBE THREE, FOUR OF THEM FOR THE, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE SILVER ONE WOULD BE USED PREDOMINANTLY IN ANY OTHER AREAS, BUT WE WANTED TO PICK UP SOME OF THE HISTORY.
YOU KNOW, THAT HAPPENED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES WHEN HOROWITZ UH, TRIED TO, UM, BRING OUT SOME OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ART DECO ARCHITECTURE BY USING PASTELS, TROPICAL COLORS.
UH, THESE, YOU KNOW, LATER ON A LOT OF THEM WENT BACK TO WHITE, BUT THEY WERE A BIG INFLUENCE.
YOU KNOW, WE SAW TURQUOISE AND, YOU KNOW, AS BEING KIND OF A WATERCOLOR SKY COLOR, BUT ALSO VERY POPULAR.
YOU SEE IT ON, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS LIKE THE, UH, EDEN ROCK, UH, PINK, OF COURSE FLAMINGOS CORAL.
SO WE WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, ANOTHER LAYER OF HUMOR AND, UH, WHIMSY.
SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR MOVES.
SIMPLE, BUT, UH, SOMETHING UNIQUE TO OUR CITY.
YOU SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD IF YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT HOW MUCH MORE TIME WOULD YOU NEED? NOT, NOT A LOT AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE ONE SLIDE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOWED YOU WAS THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE MET WITH, RECEIVED FEEDBACK FOR A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THE KIOSK IS THAT THEY'RE CUSTOMIZABLE ON A PER KIOSK BASIS.
AND SO WE JUST WANTED THE, THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL KIOSK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REFLECT, UM, THE INTENT OF THAT COMMUNITY WHERE THE KIOSK IS GOING TO BE LOCATED AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL, AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UH, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR.
BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME IS ANNABELL YPI.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE LINKER ROAD A BID, AND I'M HERE JUST TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE ALTERNATE LINCOLN ROAD LOCATION THAT THE DIGITAL KIOSK WILL BE LOCATED.
WE FIND THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES ON THERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE'VE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TEAM AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT.
ARE THERE ANY, ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE? NO, NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
THEN I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? UM, THANK I, I HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION.
UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT KIND OF, IF ANY REVIEW PROCESS IS IN PLACE FOR ONCE THESE ARE INSTALLED? AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY OR HOW THE BUSINESSES ARE EITHER INTERACTING SUCCESSFULLY OR HOW THE TECHNOLOGY PART OF IT COULD OR SHOULD BE TWEAKED TO BE MORE ENGAGING TO THE COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT PART IS PLANNED.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE CITY A REAL TIME DASHBOARD THAT SHOWS HOW THE KIOSK IS BEING USED.
SO WHAT LOCATIONS GET INTERACTED WITH MOST.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DISCOVER WHERE YOU DIDN'T DRINK, LET'S PUT THAT TILE ON THE TOP LEFT BECAUSE IT GETS CLICKED THE MOST.
AND THEN AT EACH INDIVIDUAL KIOSK, WHAT ARE PEOPLE SEARCHING FOR THE MOST? SO YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR AT WHAT LOCATION AS YOU GROW IN THE CITY.
UM, SO WE'LL BE PROVIDING USAGE DATA, WE'LL PROVIDE, PROVIDING DWELL TIME, UM, KIND OF ALL OF THE INFORMATION THE CITY COULD DESIRE WITH RESPECT TO KIOSK USAGE, AND THEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS ON THE SOFTWARE BASED ON THAT USAGE.
AND ACTUALLY TO, I WAS CURIOUS TOO ABOUT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THE, THE SYSTEM WORKS, THE MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA.
SO IT IS, YOUR TEAM IS GONNA BE MAINTAINING AND RUNNING IT IN CONJUNCTION
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WITH THE CITY, BUT IT'S YOU GUYS AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY AT THE CITY.THINK OF THE CITY AS A CURATOR, UHHUH, WE JUST TAKE THEIR DIRECTION, BUT WE HAVE A FULL MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT CLEANS 'EM EVERY DAY.
WE HAVE A FULL SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT PUSHES OUT UPGRADES, AND WE HAVE A, A CITY RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT COORDINATES WITH THE CITY REGULARLY.
AND HOW, UM, HOW DOES, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WITH THE SEARCH, IT COMES UP DUE TO PROXIMITY, BUT HOW DO BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS GET ON, GET INCLUDED IN THE LIST? THERE'S A, A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATABASE THAT'S GENERALLY VERY ACCURATE WITH RESPECT TO ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL.
BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY WE WORK WITH GROUPS LIKE THE LINCOLN ROAD BID TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANYBODY SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS.
SO WE GET THIS DATA AND THEN WE SCRUB IT AGAINST THE DATABASE OF A LOCAL ORGANIZATION, WASHINGTON ROAD, LINCOLN ROAD, ET CETERA.
AND SO TO BE INCLUDED, DO YOU, DOES A BUSINESS ORGANIZATION HAVE TO PAY OR IT'S JUST BASED ON LOCATION? THIS IS CONSIDERED A SERVICE TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
NOBODY CAN PAY FOR PLACEMENT OR ELEVATION BY FUNCTION OF EXISTING, YOU ARE FEATURE ON THE KIOSK.
CAN YOU ALSO GIVE US A SENSE, 'CAUSE UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, I WANNA APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS BOTH TO INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO HAVE THIS REDESIGN, UM, THAT IS VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DESIGN OF MIAMI BEACH.
UM, MR. LANE, I FEEL LIKE IN THIS, IN THESE MEETINGS WE'VE OFTEN REFERENCED YOUR LIFEGUARD STANDS AS A DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD LOVE THE CON THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO GO WITH EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, BUS BENCHES TO THINGS LIKE THIS.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK.
UM, AND THIS IS INDEED A MUCH BETTER DESIGN THAN WHEN, YOU KNOW, HAD INITIALLY COME TO US ALL THOSE MONTHS AGO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE IN ANY OF THE PRESENTATIONS IS WHAT THE SCREEN WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED.
IS IT AL BECAUSE IN YOUR PRE IN THE PRESENTATION, WHENEVER YOU SHOW IT FROM OTHER CITIES, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ADVERTISEMENT BEING SHOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
IS IT ALWAYS GONNA READ AS AN AD? AND ALSO, IS THERE GONNA BE AN EASY WAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE SCREEN OR SOMETHING AN EASY WAY, LIKE AN EASY NUMBER TO CALL FOR A MAINTENANCE OR FOR INFORMATION OR FOR HELP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SURE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS.
ALSO, IF, IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACTIVATE SCREEN SHARE, UM, I HAVE A, A SLIDE THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, IT NOT BEING INTERACTED WITH.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED, THINK OF IT AS A SCREENSAVER ON YOUR COMPUTER.
THE SLIDESHOW CONTAINS EIGHT SLIDES OF THOSE EIGHT SLIDES.
ONE SLIDE AT ALL TIMES IS RESERVED FOR CITY CONTENT.
THAT CAN BE ROAD CLOSURE, IT CAN BE WEATHER AWARENESS, OR IT CAN BE PROMOTION FOR DINE DOWNTOWN, OR AN ARTWORK THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PROMOTE A COMMUNITY ARTIST.
UM, THE OTHER SEVEN SLIDES ARE GONNA BE PROGRAMMED BY US.
WE SELL THOSE SLIDES TO ADVERTISERS AND SHARE A PORTION OF THAT REVENUE BACK WITH THE CITY.
BUT WE ALSO, WHEN SLIDES ARE NOT SOLD, WE SHARE THAT SLIDE BACK WITH THE CITY AS WELL.
OR WE FIND A LOCAL ARTIST PAY FOR THEIR ARTWORK AND DISPLAY THEIR ARTWORK ON THE SCREEN.
SO THE OTHER SEVEN SLIDES THAT ARE NOT THE CITY SLIDES ARE EITHER GOING TO CONTAIN ADVERTISEMENTS, WHICH WE SELL, ARTWORK, WHICH WE SOURCE, OR COMMUNITY CONTENT FROM GROUPS LIKE THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR THE CITY.
IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ENABLE SCREEN SHARE, I'M HAPPY TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
AND SO WHAT THE, THE SENSE I'M GETTING IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THESE SCREENS ARE ON, IT'S GONNA BE DISPLAYING SOME SORT OF ADVERTISEMENT AS A SORT OF A SEVEN TO ONE RATIO.
IT IT, IT'S SEVEN TO, SO WHILE THE SEVEN SLIDES ARE ABLE TO BE SOLD BY US, IT IS INFREQUENT THAT ALL OF THOSE SEVEN SLIDES ARE SOLD.
UM, IT'S VERY FREQUENTLY THE CASE THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN 40 TO 60% OF THE CONTENT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO SELL SOLD.
AND SO BETWEEN 40 TO 60% OF THE TIME WE'LL BE GIVEN BACK TO THE CITY FOR COMMUNITY CONTENT.
IF WE ARE SOLD OUT, THAT MEANS OUR RATES ARE TOO LOW.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR RATES WHERE NATIONAL ADVERTISERS ARE BUYING THEM HIGH ENOUGH.
AND SO WE'RE NOT SELLING OUT ALL OF OUR SLIDES.
AND USUALLY HOW LONG DOES IT STAY ON EACH IMAGE? EACH SLIDE IS ABOUT 10 SECONDS.
SO IT'S CONSTANTLY ROTATING AND, AND THE SLIDES AREN'T IN MOTION, RIGHT? THEY JUST COME IN AND OUT, CORRECT.
AND THEN IT GOES ALL, OR YOU SAID IT STOPS AT 10 OR IT GOES, WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF THE SIGN? IT, IT'S ON 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT IT DIMS ACCORDING TO AMBIENT LIGHT CONDITIONS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, AT NIGHT IT IS MUCH MORE DIM THAN IT WILL BE DURING THE DAY WHEN THERE'S A FULL SUNSHINE.
UM, ALSO CLOUDY DAYS, IT'S DIMMER THAN SUNNY DAYS.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH, AND YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN INVITED FEEDBACK ON, COLLABORATION ON, IS THAT WHAT THE SCREEN LOOKS LIKE? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? OR THAT, OR WAS THAT TO THE COLOR CHOICE OF THE IT'S, UM, AND I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I HAVE A SLIDE OF IT HERE.
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IT, IT'S, IT'S ON THEIR APPLICATION.SO WHEN YOU SELECT EAT AND DRINK, RIGHT.
IF YOU DON'T MIND ALLOWING SCREEN SHARE AGAIN, PLEASE.
UM, SO LET'S SAY YOU WALK UP AND YOU SELECT THE EAT AND DRINK APPLICATION.
THERE WILL BE A LIST OF RESTAURANTS THAT ARE AROUND YOU, RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND COFFEE SHOPS ALL AROUND YOU.
UM, LET'S SAY YOU SEE A COFFEE SHOP YOU WANT TO GO TO AND YOU SELECT THAT COFFEE SHOP, THERE'LL BE A PHOTO OF THAT COFFEE SHOP, THERE'LL BE THE STORE HOURS, THERE'LL BE REVIEWS AND A PROMOTION.
IF THE COFFEE SHOP WANTS TO PUT A PROMOTION, THAT ENTIRE DIRECTORY CARD AS I'M CALLING IT, INFORMATION ABOUT THAT COFFEE SHOP'S, ALL CONTENT THAT THE COFFEE SHOP CAN CUSTOMIZE IF THEY WANT US TO CUSTOMIZE ON THEIR BEHALF.
AND THAT'S DONE AS A SERVICE TO THE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT A COST TO THEM, BUT IT'S A FREE WAY FOR THEM TO GET PROMOTION, GET MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN, PUT OUT PROMOTION.
CAN YOU BRIEFLY STATE THE LOCATIONS? THEY MENTIONED 11 WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THEN ONE ON BY THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ONE BY ALTON AND LINCOLN? YES.
IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING THE SCREEN AGAIN, PLEASE.
UM, THIS SHOWS THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW TODAY.
AND I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO THE OTHER LOCATIONS APPROVED BY HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, ONE IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALTON AND LINCOLN AND THE OTHER IS ON CONVENTION CENTER BETWEEN 17TH AND DADE.
UM, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER ON THIS LOCATION, SO HERE IT IS AN ELEVATION VIEW AND I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE MORE SLOWLY AGAIN, IF HELPFUL.
UM, I'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SITE.
AND THIS IS THE ONE ON ALTON AND LINCOLN NEXT TO CITIZENM, NEXT TO THE CITIZEN APP HOTEL.
ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR UTILITY CONFLICTS.
WE'VE MADE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT CLEAR PATH OF TRAVEL FOR WHEELCHAIRS TO GO BY.
WE'VE MADE SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT DISTANCE FROM SIGHT LINE TRIANGLES.
THE ONE SPECIFICALLY ON ALTON AND LINCOLN, THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE US SOME MONTHS BACK CONCERNING THE LANDSCAPING FOR THAT AREA OF LINCOLN ROAD AND PUTTING SOME SORT OF BARRIER TO KEEP CARS FROM ENTERING, UH, LINCOLN ROAD OR CRASHING INTO LINCOLN ROAD, UH, FROM ALTON.
UM, HAVE YOU ALL COMMUNICATED WITH OR TAKEN THIS PLAN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN SELECTING THE PLACEMENT OF THE KIOSK ON ALTON AND LINCOLN? WE'VE DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE PROMENADE AND THE LINCOLN ROAD BID ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED TO US THIS SITE BECAUSE THEY THINK OF IT AS A GATEWAY BOOKEND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE PROMENADE IS BEYOND THE SITE.
BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT INTENT.
WE DID WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE BID TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SIGHTING WASN'T ONE THAT WAS GONNA CREATE SOME SORT OF OBSTRUCTION.
IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
THE, THE KIOSK IS NOT WHERE THE BARRIERS ARE.
SO IT'S ON THE IT'S ACROSS SOUTH THEATER.
OH, WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE OF THE KIOSK, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL MAINTAIN IT.
SO I ASSUME THAT ONCE YOU'RE INTO CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, THERE WILL BE SOME SPECIFICATIONS AND GOALS OR BENCHMARKS AS TO THE MAINTENANCE AS SO THAT IT JUST DOESN'T SIT THERE BROKEN IDLE FOR MORE THAN X NUMBER OF HOURS OR DAYS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH OTHER, UM, IMPLEMENTATIONS HERE IN THE CITY.
CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT, UH, SPEAK AS TO THAT, AS TO WHAT THE BREAKDOWNS HAVE BEEN MAYBE IN OTHER LOCATIONS THAT YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED THESE KIOSK? SURE.
UH, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO RESPOND TO ANY SERVICE REQUEST WITHIN 24 HOURS.
UM, WE CLEAN THE KIOSKS DAILY.
UM, SO THAT MEANS ANY SORT OF GRAFFITI REMOVAL, ET CETERA, ANY SORT OF THINGS THAT SOMEONE HAS DONE TO VANDALISM WILL BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.
UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT OUR CLIENTS IN OTHER CITIES WILL TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THEY CAN REPORT A PROBLEM.
WE'VE CLEANED IT UP, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE CHECKING THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHICH IS CRITICAL.
THE OTHER REALLY CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IS SOFTWARE UPGRADES.
IF YOUR PHONES WEREN'T GETTING UPGRADES, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY SO OFTEN, THEY WOULDN'T BE VERY USEFUL TO YOU.
WE PUSH OUT UPGRADES EVERY MONTH TO THE SOFTWARE AND WE'RE OBLIGATED TO, AND IF WE FAIL TO DO THAT, THE CITY CAN ALSO REVOKE OUR PERMITS.
AND SO THE INTENTION IS FOR THE HARDWARE TO REMAIN BEST IN CLASS AND FOR THE SOFTWARE TO REMAIN BEST IN CLASS.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION JUST ON THE RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER PLACES.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS MIAMI BEACH AND OUR GOAL IS TO SERVE THE MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS, BUT OFTEN MIAMI
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ACTS AS A TOURIST ATTRACTION TO THE LARGER, GREATER AREA.IS THE INTENT FOR ANY OF THESE TO PERHAPS EVER COMMUNICATE ABOUT, OH, WELL YOU'RE HERE IN MIAMI BEACH, BUT YOU COULD GO X, Y, AND Z WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER KIOSK OR ANOTHER KIOSK BEGINS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE INSTALLED IN SOME SORT OF CROSS COLLABORATION? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE'RE INSTALLING 150 IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
UM, WE'RE ABOUT TO CROSS A HUNDRED BARRIER THERE.
WE'RE INSTALLING 15 IN A VENTURA.
WE'VE ALREADY INSTALLED, I BELIEVE FIVE THERE.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY INSTALLED 10 IN CORAL GABLES AND WE'RE INSTALLING THEM ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA.
UM, AND ABSOLUTELY THE IDEA WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S BRING ARTISTS FROM FROM WINDWOOD TO THE BEACH.
LET'S BRING ARTISTS FROM THE BEACH TO WINDWOOD, RIGHT.
AND CREATE KIND OF THAT NETWORK EFFECT OF HAVING A SHARED, UH, WAVE MINING SYSTEM ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA SO THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT ONLY DISCOVER OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ATTRACTIVE ABOUT OTHER PARTS OF THE REGION.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.
I WAS DRIVING HOME, UH, FROM WORK LAST WEEK AND I WAS JUST ABOUT TO GET ON MACARTHUR FROM BISCAYNE AND JUST IN FRONT OF THE FROTH SCIENCE MUSEUM, UH, THERE'S A KIOSK AND IT WAS ADVERTISING FIU, WHICH IS A COUNTYWIDE INSTITUTION.
SO SPECIFICALLY IT WAS ADVERTISING FIU UP FRONT, AND THEN IT SAID WILSONIAN MUSEUM.
SO THERE IS GONNA BE SOME TYPE OF CROSS POLLINATION BETWEEN THE JURISDICTIONS.
HOWEVER, IF I, I CAN JUST ADD IU.
THE ADVERTISING THAT YOU DO ON THE MIAMI BEACH KIOSK WILL BE FOR ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN MIAMI BEACH OR MIAMI BEACH AND OTHER AREAS.
THE ADVERTISERS ARE GENERALLY GONNA BE KIND OF THE BIG NATIONAL BRANDS YOU SEE WHEN YOU TURN ON A FOOTBALL GAME ON A SUNDAY OR A BASKETBALL GAME.
UM, OUR BIGGEST ADVERTISER LAST YEAR WAS APPLE THIS YEAR IT WAS SAMSUNG AND APPLE'S A CLOSED SECOND ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE THE KIND OF THE BIG, BIG NATIONAL BRANDS.
WE HAVE A DISCOUNT RATE CARD FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT WHEN LOCAL BUSINESSES DO WANT TO ADVERTISE, THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY THE RATES THAT APPLE IS PAYING.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION, ACTUALLY, FORLIO, AND I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE BLOCK VERY, VERY RECENTLY, BUT IN ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, IT SHOWED THAT THE CITIZEN M ON THAT SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK IS STILL, THERE'S STILL A BARRIER UP.
IS THAT STILL THE CASE? I, THAT IS THE, THE ONE OF THE BARRIERS HAS BEEN REMOVED.
IT'S, IT SHOULD BE OPENING SOON.
THE, THE CONSTRUCTION, I BELIEVE IS NEARING COMPLETION.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ITEM ON THE CITIZENM, UH, LATER ON THE AGENDA FOR AN UNRELATED ISSUE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE SOME OF THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
UM, BUT THERE IS STILL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE ON THE SITE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMEFRAME IS LIKE FOR INSTALLATION, BUT I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT BEFORE THAT ONE GOES IN.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? OH, ACTUALLY, SORRY.
UM, IS THERE A WAY, SO AGAIN, TO ECHO, UM, MYRA'S CONCERN ABOUT MAINTENANCE, WHICH I THINK A LOT OF US WHO'VE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME HAVE, IS THERE A WAY THAT SOMEWHERE ON THE KIOSK THERE CAN BE A, IF MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED, WHATEVER NUMBER TO CALL? YES.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ON ALL OF THEM.
OKAY, JUST, I JUST WANNA MENTION TO DURING THE PRESENTATION THAT, UH, THE DISCUSSION, TWO, TWO PEOPLE RAISED THEIR HANDS ONLINE.
I DUNNO IF YOU'D IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THOSE COMMENTS OR IF, IF, I MEAN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD.
UM, THE FIRST, UH, HAND RAISED IS JANET WOODS.
JANET WOODS, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THE NEXT PERSON IS DAVID PEREZ.
DAVID, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
DAVID, BEFORE YOU ADDRESS OKAY.
BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD, I NEED TO SWAY YOU IN, UM, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND I'M GONNA SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
SO, GOOD MORNING BOARD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK JUST FOR A QUICK MOMENT.
UM, SO AS A LOCAL RESIDENT, I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, SO I, I KNOW HE MENTIONED A DISCOUNT REGARDING
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LOCAL BUSINESS, BEING ABLE TO ADVERTISE ON THE BOARD.IS THERE A CRITERIA IN PLACE FOR WHAT CAN BE ADVERTISED? I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE THE MONEY, ARE NOT PUTTING SOMETHING UP THAT MIGHT NOT BE ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.
YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING FAMILIES, CONSIDERING, UM, PEOPLE WHO COME TO VISIT.
UM, AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA USE TO REVIEW AND IF IT'S JUST BASED ON, WELL, YOU CAN PAY IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUT IT UP FOR YOU.
UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE ACTIVATE THE SCREEN SHARE.
THIS SHOWS THE CONTENT RESTRICTIONS.
NOTHING POLITICAL, NOTHING LEWD, NOTHING OBSCENE, NO TOBACCO, AND, UM, GENERALLY NOTHING THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T ALIGN WITH COMMUNITY STANDARDS.
UM, ALSO WHEN REQUESTED TO TAKE CONTENT DOWN, CONTENT DOWN, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO TAKE THAT DOWN WITHIN 24 HOURS.
DID WE WANNA TRY JANET AGAIN OR SHE NEVER GOT IT WORKING? HER HAND IS OKAY.
UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION I MOTION TO APPROVE WILL SECOND THE MOTION.
MOTION BY MS. MEYER? SECOND BY MS. OLI.
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ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA, ITEM 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE.THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 1 0 0 9 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN APPROVAL FOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM JUNE 4TH AND JULY 2ND, 2024.
SO THIS ITEM, UH, WAS CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD, UH, ON JULY 2ND, AS STATED, UH, THE BOARD, UH, DID PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT DID GO AND MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PLANS, UM, WHICH, WHICH THEY'LL PRESENT TODAY.
UM, THIS IS, OH, JUST FOR BACKGROUND 'CAUSE THERE, THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T HERE TODAY.
THIS IS, UH, A SITE THAT HAS AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING.
UH, THE OFFICE BUILDING IS ON LAND OWNED BY THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE A LONG-TERM LEASE FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS PRIVATELY DEVELOPED.
UM, THE, THE, UH, THE SITE HAS A, AN ARCHITECTURE STYLE THAT IS, IS DATED AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO REFRESH THE BUILDING.
THEY'RE GONNA BE REWORKING THE INTERIOR, UM, AND RECL THE FACADE.
UH, THE FACADE WILL HAVE A, A LIMESTONE VENEER.
UH, THERE WILL BE NEW, UH, SCREENING FOR THE PARKING GARAGE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING TO THE REAR OF THE SITE.
UM, AND, AND, UH, AND THEY'VE MADE SEVERAL CHANGES, UH, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD LAST, UH, IN JULY.
UM, SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE, UH, REFINED THE PROPOSED CLADDING, UH, TO THE EXISTING PARAPET WALL ON THE CORNER OF 17TH STREET AND MICHIGAN AVENUE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF METALLIC CLADDING AT THE CENTER PORTION OF THE PARAPET WALL.
UH, THE AWNINGS ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL WERE REPLACED WITH PLANTERS AT LEVELS TWO THROUGH FIVE, UH, AND THE PLANTER AT THE ROOF LEVEL WAS REMOVED.
UM, THEY'VE REPLACED, UM, A PROPOSED LONG, UH, STRIP METALLIC LIGHT SCONCES THE THROUGHOUT THE FACADE, UH, WITH A MID-SIZE LIGHT WITH MID-SIZE LIGHT SCONCES, UH, COLLIDED WITH NATURAL TRAVERTINE.
UM, AND THAT COMPLIMENTS THE FACADE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, THEY'VE ALIGNED THE LIMESTONE VENEER A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO COMPLIMENT THE WINDOW PATTERN.
UH, PLANTERS ON THE GARAGE FACADE WERE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH REGULAR PATTERN OF LIMESTONE VENEER AND METAL SCREENING.
AND THE PROPOSED METAL SCREENING ON THE GARAGE FACADE, UH, WAS MODIFIED AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS OF THE ELEVATION, UM, TO BETTER WRAP THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
UM, STAFF UH, BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS ARE IN LINE WITH THE BOARD'S DIRECTION, UH, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE START, UH, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY DISCLOSURES? NOPE.
AND I'LL SET THE CLOCK AT 10 MINUTES, MICHAEL.
SO, UH, GOOD MORNING AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, 200 SOCA BOULEVARD REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT HISTORY HERE IN MIAMI BEACH.
IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE SIMPLE SURFACE PARKING LOTS IN LINCOLN ROAD A LONG TIME AGO, OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
AND THE CITY DECIDED TO DO A JOINT VENTURE WHERE THEY RETAINED OWNERSHIP, BUT THEY BROUGHT IN A LONG TERM, LESS A TO DO THE OFFICE BUILDING.
AND LUCKY STRIKE WAS IN THE BASE OF THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
I REALIZED THEN HOW BAD I WAS AT BOWLING.
SO I STAYED AWAY FROM LUCKY STRIKE FOR A WHILE THAT WAS CARVED UP.
THERE'S A TWO HOME IMPROVEMENT, UH, SPACES NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WEST ELM AND WILL SONOMA, WHICH ARE GOOD FOR A LOT OF US THAT WOULD GO THERE.
UM, BUT THEN ROBERT HAS COME ALONG AND PURCHASED IT AND WANTS TO
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TURN IT FROM, IT'S A SOMEWHAT DATED OFFICE BUILDING NOW INTO LIKE THE MOST LUXURIOUS OFFICE BUILDING IN MIAMI BEACH.YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CONSIDERED IT AND YOU ALL ARE ALWAYS THOUGHTFUL.
YOU, YOU ZEROED IN ON SOME DETAILS.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE DETAILS AND TELL YOU HOW WE RESPONDED.
SO SOME OF THE DETAILS WERE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE AWNINGS AND PLANTERS AT THE CORNER OF 17TH STREET IN MICHIGAN.
NUMBER TWO, THE MATERIAL FINISH AND DESIGN DETAILS WITH THE BUILDING CROWN THAT WRAPS AROUND THE CORNER, 17TH STREET IN MICHIGAN.
NUMBER THREE, THE DESIGN OF THE LIGHT SCONCES ON THE FACADE.
AND NUMBER FOUR, THE MATERIALS AND COLORS USED ON THE GROUND FLOOR STOREFRONTS.
SO WE HAVE RESPONDED EACH OF THOSE FOUR CONCERNS.
FIRST, THE HONORING IS NOW LIMITED TO THE GROUND FLOOR LEVEL AND THE COLOR MATCHES THE BUILDING FACADE, THE REMAINING LEVELS THAT PLANTERS EXCEPT FOR THE ROOF LEVEL.
NUMBER TWO, THE BUILDING CROWN HAS BEEN REFINED TO ACCENTUATE THE CORNER AND THE SHAPE OF THE DECORATIVE MATERIAL.
CLADDING IS MORE ANGULAR TO CREATE THE DESIRED TEXTURED EFFECT.
NUMBER THREE, WE SWAPPED OUT THE LONG, DARK LIGHT, UH, SCONCES FOR SHORTER TRAVERTINE, CLADDED, LIGHT SCONCES THAT BLENDED TO THE BUILDING FACADE.
AND FINALLY, WE HAVE CLARIFIED THE MATERIALS AND COLORS ALONG THE GROUND FLOOR.
STOREFRONTS, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT THE TREMENDOUS TEAM.
I'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED TO YOU ROBERT RNI AS, UH, THE OWNER.
OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM FROM ROBERT SHOP IS JAMES DUKE AND ANDREA MUNOZ.
AND WE HAVE HO JOSE GOMEZ FROM BJ ARCHITECTS AND CARLOS ARRIGA FROM ASCAL FOR AS OUR DESIGN TEAM.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TURN OVER TO CARLOS AND HAVE HIM WALK YOU THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGES.
MY NAME IS CARLOS RODRIGUEZ, UH, PRINCIPAL OF ESCAL.
FOR, UM, AFTER THE LAST HEARING, WE TOOK A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT THE BOARD HAD INTO REALLY, REALLY DISSECTION AND STUDY.
WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND EVERY POINT OF THE FLOW FROM DESIGN TO THE INTEGRATION OF THE LIGHTING, CERTAIN KIND OF FIGURES WITHIN THIS SPEECH.
SO IN IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE THE LIGHT CONDITION, WHICH IS A TRAVERTINE SCONCE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS.
UH, WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT FADED INTO THE BUILDING FACADE, BUT CREATED A, UM, LIGHTING PLAY AT NIGHT.
WE WANTED THIS, UM, INTEGRATION TO BE SOFT VERSUS THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL, WHICH WAS A HARSH STATEMENT THAT WAS A LITTLE FOREIGN TO THE BUILDING.
UM, IN TAKING IT INTO CONSIDERATION, THE CORNER, ONE OF THE MAIN ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CORON, I THINK WAS A VERY BENEFICIAL POINT, WHICH WAS, UM, ORIGINALLY WE HAD AWNINGS ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP.
UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS TO INTEGRATE PLANTERS THAT SOFTENED THAT CORNER CONDITION COMING FROM MICHIGAN.
UM, I THINK IT CREATED A LAYER THAT THE BUILDING NEEDED.
UM, THE BUILDING WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT, EVEN NOW IT FELT, FEELS A LITTLE FORCED TO THAT CORNER.
SO I THINK IT PULLS THE, THE EYE STRAIGHT TO THAT CORNER.
UM, THE OTHER COMMENT WAS THE CLADDING.
UM, CERTAIN FINISHES IN THE CLADDING THAT WAS, UM, BEFORE IT WAS A LITTLE DARK.
UM, IT'S A LIGHT CHAMPAGNE METAL THAT IS GONNA BE INTEGRATED BETWEEN THE PANELS AND ALSO THE MULLINS.
WE WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE A CONTINUOUS LANGUAGE.
UM, THE EXISTING CONDITION, UM, DOES NOT CREATE A MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE EXISTING BUILDING.
SO OUR INTERVENTION IS TO UNITE THEM TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL, UM, ALMOST STUDY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE NEXT FINISH THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS REALLY THE CROWN.
THE CROWN WAS ALWAYS A PROBLEM, UM, IN THE BEGINNING DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING, UM, BECAUSE THE FEASIBILITY OF WHETHER IT'S, UM, HURRICANE RATED, WHETHER IT WOULD WITHSTAND THE LIGHTING CONDITIONS.
SO WE LOOKED INTO MATERIALS THAT WOULDN'T CREATE SUCH A DOMINANCE ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING.
WE WANTED IT TO FADE INTO THE STRUCTURE.
SO WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR FINISHES LIKE THIS, UM, MICRO CEMENT, UM, THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO, TO THE FACADE OF THAT CROWN.
ULTIMATELY, THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS, IS A DIRECT CONNECTION INTO LINCOLN ROAD.
AND IT'S PREDOMINANTLY WHAT I FEEL IS, UH, PART OF THE CATALYST TO THE RENOVATION OF, UM, MIAMI BEACH.
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YOU SEE HERE, UM, IN THE TWO STUDIES WE HAVE THE AWNING ON THE UPPER SIDE, THE AWNINGS WERE A LITTLE DARK.AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PLANTER CONDITION THAT FADES INTO THE CLADDING.
UM, AS YOU SEE THE CENTER METAL, THE CENTER METAL WAS REDUCED SO THAT IT CREATED A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN THE HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE.
WE, AFTER THIS, WE STARTED STUDYING THE CURRENT PLANTERS.
THE BUILDING HAS, UH, PLANTERS THAT WRAP AROUND THE GARAGE.
AND ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WAS ADDRESSED WAS THE MAINTENANCE OF 'EM.
AND AFTER FURTHER STUDY, WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT WORKED IN THE CURRENT PLANTERS AND WHAT DIDN'T.
THE PLANT MATERIAL HAS NOT SURVIVED IN THOSE PLANTERS, SO WE WERE CONCERNED AT WHY IT DIDN'T SURVIVE.
SO AFTER FURTHER DISSECTION, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE LONG RUN INTO THE BUILDING BETWEEN THE DRAINAGE LINE AND THE WATER LINES, IT ULTIMATELY THE PLANT MATERIAL WOULD DIE.
UM, SO IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED TO HAVE THESE PLANTERS IN THAT AREA.
ULTIMATELY, WE DON'T WANT A PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T LAST WHERE YOU APPROVE IT AND THEN SUDDENLY IN A COUPLE MONTHS YOU HAVE THIS DEAD PLANTER THAT IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, WHERE THE PLANT MATERIALS ARE NOT CONSISTENT TO WHAT IS APPROVED.
SO WE DECIDED TO CREATE MORE OF A FIXED CONDITION WHERE IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT.
UM, THE CORNER PLANTERS ON THE OPPOSITE END HAVE DIRECT ACCESS INTO THE BUILDING.
SO THOSE LINES AND DRAINAGE LINES ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND MAINTAINED.
AS YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING ABOUT THE CURRENT, UH, STRUCTURE.
UM, THIS BUILDING ACCEPTS THE CORNER, BUT ALSO REJECTS IT.
WE WANT TO CREATE THIS FLORAL PLAY WHERE THE, THE VISITORS KIND OF GET PULLED INTO THIS CORNER AND GET INTO A SOFT TRANSITION INTO MICHIGAN.
AND THIS IS THE OVERLOOK INTO THE CORNER.
UM, AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE THE AWNINGS, UM, THAT FLANKED THAT THE FACADE, ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WAS THE MATERIALITY OF THE AWNINGS.
SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE AWNINGS AND ONLY HAVING THEM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
CONCLUDES YOUR, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM WISHING TO SPEAK OR THIS IS, I MEAN, GOOD.
I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, ANY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? ANYBODY HERE ONLINE? WE DO HAVE ONE HAND RAISED ONLINE.
BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD, I JUST NEED TO SWAY YOU IN.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND I'LL SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
LYLE STERN WITH OFFICERS, IT'S, IT'S, UH, SIX 90 LINCOLN ROAD.
UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF LINCOLN ROAD BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, BUT I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BID, ONLY BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BRING THIS BEFORE THE BOARD AND VOTE ON IT.
BUT AS A PROPERTY OWNER ON LINCOLN ROAD, UH, AND WITH SIGNIFICANT, UH, COMMITMENT TO LINCOLN ROAD, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE, I, I'VE REVIEWED THIS.
UH, AS IMPORTANTLY AS THE DESIGN IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HAD MR. ANI PURCHASE AN OFFICE BUILDING OF THIS CALIBER ON LINCOLN ROAD, HE HAS AN INCREDIBLE TRACK RECORD OF, UH, RECRUITING THE TYPES OF, OF TENANTS, UH, BOTH OFFICE AND, AND RETAIL THAT, THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY, I THINK WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BUDDING LINCOLN ROAD.
UH, I PERSONALLY WELCOME HIM, UH, AND HIS INVESTMENT TO LINCOLN ROAD.
UM, I THINK THAT HIS ABILITY TO RECRUIT THE KINDS OF OFFICE TENANTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HERE, UH, IS GONNA BE SPECTACULAR.
UH, WE WERE INVOLVED IN BRINGING OMO PIER, UH, AP TO SUNSET HARBOR.
UH, WE SEE WHAT, UH, BARRY STERLING DESIGN WITH HIS BUILDING ON COLLINS AVENUE WITH RECENTLY WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE BASTON LO OFFICE TENANCY.
THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN MIAMI BEACH, UH, WITH, WITH SIGNIFICANT COMPANIES AND FAMILY OFFICES THAT WOULD LIKE BETTER QUALITY CLASS A OFFICE PRODUCT, UH, TO RESIDE IN, UH, IN OUR CITY.
UH, SO I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT ROBERT'S GOING TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING.
I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT HE'S GONNA DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M EXCITED, UH, THAT IT'S PART OF THE LINCOLN ROAD FABRIC AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO, UH, TO PASS IT TODAY SO THAT ROBERT CAN BEGIN, UH, THE RENOVATION AND THE LEASING.
AND I THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY BY SERVING ON THE BOARD.
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YOU VERY MUCH.ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER HANDS RAISED? OKAY.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
THIS BUILDING LOOKS SO, UM, MATURE, I GUESS SO ELEGANT AND SIMPLE AND CLEAN.
UM, I THINK THE PLANTS ON EVERY LEVEL, ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE MAKE A NICE DIFFERENCE.
IT REALLY MAKES THAT CORNER CONSISTENT.
UM, AS MUCH AS I HATE SEEING PLANTERS GO AWAY IN THE GARAGE, THEY WERE RIDICULOUS AND RANDOMLY SCATTERED AND ALWAYS LOOKED TERRIBLE.
AND I THINK THE ELEGANCE THAT YOU ESTABLISHED AND THE CONNECTIVITY WITH THE GARAGE, WITH THE OTHER BUILDING, IT'S REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BELONG TOGETHER.
SO I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND I THINK IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, IMPROVEMENT.
ANYONE ELSE? SHAUNA? YEAH, I'LL ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.
UM, YEAH, I WASN'T HERE FOR THE JULY MEETING, BUT, UM, I, I LOVE THE, THE CHANGES HERE.
UM, COMING IN WITH FRESH EYES, THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, I, ONE THING I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE BUILDING THAT I WISH I SAW A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IS THE, AT THE ENTRANCE CORNER WHERE THE CROWN IS ON THE FIRST LEVEL.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UM, YOU HAVE LIKE METAL HORIZONTAL LINES GOING ACROSS ON THE ENTRY LEVEL.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT CONSIDERED TO BRINGING THAT MAYBE AROUND ON THE GARAGE SIDE AS WELL? ON THE, THE FIRST LEVEL? I'M NOT, UM, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, THE FIRST FLOOR RUNNING? YES.
SO THE FIRST FLOOR AWNING METAL WAS, IT'S KIND OF AN EXPOSED, UM, RENDERING TECHNIQUE TO THE AWNING.
UM, SO THERE WAS NO, UM, UH, CONSIDERATION TO, TO EXTEND IT.
THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT AS FLAT AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S DEPICTING IT AT LIKE A SEVERE LINE PLAY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAN.
YEAH, I LIKE THE WAY THIS LOOKS.
AND YEAH, AS WE CONTINUE WITH THE CONTINUANCES, PLEASE, WHOEVER WAS IN HERE, WE'LL GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU NEED.
UM, AND I PARTICULARLY LIKE THIS LIGHTING FIXTURE, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IN A SAMPLE
UM, I, UM, I AGREE IT DEFINITELY HAS A SORT OF ELEGANCE AND A COHESION.
THE BUILDING WAS SO GRAY AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS DOING EVERYTHING IN GRAY AND NOW WE'RE MOVING MORE INTO THE BROWNS AND THE BEIGE AND, AND HERE WE HAVE THIS.
AND I, I REALLY THINK IT WAS A GOOD CHOICE TO REWORK THE SCONCES, BUT ALSO THE SECTIONS.
IT, IT HAS A DIFFERENT RHYTHM TO IT THAT I THINK IS GONNA, IS, IS MORE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS I REALLY LIKE THE CROWN.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY UNIQUE FEATURE.
I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T CONTINUE AND, AND WAS IT FLUTING OR IS IT THE LIGHT THAT IS CREATING THE PATTERN ON THE OTHER PART OF IT? IT'S FLUTING.
HOW COME YOU DECIDED NOT TO INCLUDE IT ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY IN THE FRONT? WELL, THE BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS A SIGNAGE, UM, THE WIC SIGN THAT EXTENDS THROUGH THAT, UH, FLUTING PORTION.
UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CORONER WAS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD, OF COURSE, IS TO POTENTIALLY, UH, SUBMIT, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SIGN, A BUILDING SIGN ON THE CHROME.
AND THAT, AND YOU COULDN'T DO THAT ON TOP OF THE FLUTING OR THINK IT WOULD BE TOO BUSY? I THINK IT WOULD BE TOO BUSY.
THE IDEA IS FOR THE TRANSITION TONIGHT TO BECOME THIS BEAUTIFUL LIGHT PLATE SO THAT THE PATTERN IS UNOBSTRUCTED.
SO FROM ANY ANGLE WHERE YOU SEE IT FROM MIAMI BEACH, IT BECOMES, UH, THIS BEAUTIFUL TEXTURAL CROWN.
SO THEN YOU'RE MISSING THE, WELL THEN THE, IN YOUR MIND, THE TEXTURE WOULD BE, THE SIGN WOULD BE PART OF THE TEXTURE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE SIGN WOULD BE FOR ONE OF THE TENANTS OR THE NAME OF THE BUILDING? THE NAME OF THE BUILDING.
OF COURSE, AFTER HOPEFULLY THE APPROVAL, UM, IT, THIS WOULD BE A SECOND LAYER TO IT THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE REALLY PROPERLY DETECTED.
SO THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
BUT YOU'RE AWARE THAT IT NEEDS SOMETHING CORRECT.
UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT? NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO BE LAST.
I WAS, UH, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY BY THE CITY TO THE THEN GROUP THAT BOUGHT IT.
AND WE THOUGHT BACK THEN THE DESIGN THEY HAD PRESENTED WAS, WAS NICE EVENTUALLY.
UM, BUT STYLES HAVE CHANGED, TASTES HAVE CHANGED, AND I REALLY LIKE WHAT I SAW TODAY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT CORNER.
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OKAY.DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I SECOND.
MOTION BY MS. MYERS? SECOND BY MS. OLI.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WELL, AND I THINK I SPEAK ON EVERYONE'S BEHALF TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU FELT THAT OUR COMMENTS WERE HELPFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE AS OPPOSED TO AN OBSTACLE TO MOVING THIS FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RESULT REALLY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
WELL, I, I WOULD NOTE FOR THIS ITEM, UM, WE CAN EXPECT IT TO COME BACK IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
UH, FOR THE DRIVEWAY PORTION, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AT MODIFYING THE, THE DRIVEWAY PORTION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH REALLY WASN'T FOCUSED ON IN THIS SET OF PLANS.
SO WE CAN EXPECT THAT, UH, I BELIEVE FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING, IS THE PARKING LOT STILL GONNA STAY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? MICHAEL, DO YOU KNOW, IS THE PARKING LOT STILL GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? YES.
OR IT'S GONNA BE PASSED TO GLENCO? IT BE, YEAH.
'CAUSE IT SERVES THE BUSINESS ON LINCOLN ROAD.
IT, SO THEY GO, THEY GO TOGETHER.
THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA,
[6. DRB24-1015, 1801 ALTON ROAD]
1801 ALTON ROAD.THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 15 18 0 1 ALTON ROAD.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT, BORDERING A TEMPORARY OR PROVISIONAL SURFACE PARKING LOT ABUTTING A PROPERTY LINE, STREET, OR SIDEWALK.
AND ONE OR MORE WAIVERS REPLACING AN EXISTING TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS WAS CONTINUED ON JUNE 4TH AND JULY 2ND MEETING.
AND BEFORE WE START, UH, ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATION DISCLOSURES FROM THE BOARD? NO.
SHOULD I GIVE MY, SORRY,
SO THIS SITE, UH, IT, IT WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY ON THE AGENDA, IT DOES INCLUDE A VARIANCE, WHICH REQUIRES FIVE VOTES.
SO THAT'S WHY IT KEPT GETTING CONTINUED FOR A FEW MONTHS.
UH, SO THIS HAS NOT YET BEEN HEARD.
UM, THE SITE IS IN A CD ONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS A LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UH, IT'S IN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT ON AN REGULAR BLOCK.
IT'S THE BLOCK THAT HAS ALSO A PUBLIX AND A WALGREENS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS A BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY HAS, I BELIEVE, A CHASE MANHATTAN BANK OR CHASE BANK, UM, AND, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICES AS WELL.
ON THIS SITE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE THAT BUILDING.
UM, AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FULL SITE FULLY, FULLY DEVELOPED WITH WHAT THEY WANNA DO, BUT THEY DO WANNA REINTRODUCE THE BANK ON THE CORNER, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE.
UH, SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT ONE STORY STORY BUILDING.
THE REST OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY HAS SOME EXISTING PARKING THAT'S IN PLACE, UH, AND THEY'LL BE PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT.
BUT WE CAN EXPECT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE THEY'LL BE COMING BACK WITH A PLAN ON, UH, ON DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, UH, THEY WILL BE SCREENING THE PARKING LOT WITH LANDSCAPING, UH, AND PROVING THE, THE LOOK OF THE PARKING.
UH, THEY ARE SEEKING SOME VARIANCES RELATED TO THE PARKING AND KEEPING THAT PARKING.
SOME OF THOSE SPACES ARE NON-CONFORMING.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE TODAY.
UM, AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD BE IMPOSING ON, ON NEW PARKING LOTS, UH, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
A VARIANCE FROM STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE VARIANCE BECAUSE WE DO EXPECT IT TO BE TEMPORARY, AS, AS THE SITE WE DO EXPECT WILL BE, WILL BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THE BUILDING IS, UH, OF CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
UM, UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME WAIVERS OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, FRONTAGE STANDARDS, OUR SHORT AND LONG FRONTAGE STANDARDS.
UM, BECAUSE AT FRONTS AND FDOT ROAD, THEY DO EXPECT HAVING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES BASED ON F DOTS, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
UM, HOWEVER, AS PART OF THESE STANDARDS, UH, THEY WILL BE MAINTAINING A FIVE FOOT CLEAR PEDESTRIAN PATH.
BASICALLY, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE, UM, UM, WHAT'S REQUIRED TO 10 FOOT WIDE CIRCULATION ZONE TO ABOUT EIGHT FEET, UH, FIVE INCHES.
BUT THEY WILL BE KEEPING A, A CLEAR PEDESTRIAN PATH OF FIVE FEET.
SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE, TO THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UH, APPLICATION BE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE REQUESTED VARIANCES.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MICKEY MARRERO, BURKE DEL FERNANDEZ.
LARKIN TAPIS, JUNIOR SOUTH PISCA BOULEVARD.
WITH ME TODAY, MY COLLEAGUE, EMILY BALTER, OUR PRODUCT ARCHITECT, RENEE GONZALEZ, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, VINCENT ZI IS ON ZOOM, AND WE ALL REPRESENT SANTA ELNA HOLDINGS, THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, PRINCIPLE DOMINIC KALO.
SO, DOMINIC'S OWNED THIS SITE FOR A LONG TIME, AND SOME OF YOU WERE HERE, I THINK IN 2021 WHEN WE WERE, UH, WE HAD APPROVED FOR A OFFICE BUILDING THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED ABOUT AT THE TIME, UM, AND, AND HOPED THAT THAT WENT FORWARD.
BUT BECAUSE OF CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THE LIMITATIONS ON, ON THE CD ONE AND CHALLENGES WITH THE EXISTING TENANT, THAT PROJECT WILL
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NOT BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD.AND WE'VE SINCE BEEN WORKING WITH DOMINIC AND, AND HIS DESIGN FOLKS, I'M TRYING TO FIND, UH, AN ULTIMATE SOLUTION FOR THE SITE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CHALLENGING IS AS SORT OF RAHI GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE A LONG TERM TENDENCY WITH CHASE BANK.
UM, IT HAS TWO 20 YEAR, TWO, TWO REMAINING 10 YEAR OPTIONS THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE INDICATED THEY'RE GOING TO EXERCISE.
SO WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT BEST TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEPS COMING IN IS HOW DO WE WORK AROUND THIS, THIS TENANT, UM, THE BUILDING THAT EXISTS TODAY.
AND IF, EMILY, IF YOU COULD KIND OF START YES.
SO AS, AS RILEY POINTED OUT, UH, THE PROPERTY'S VERY REGULARLY SHAPED.
IT'S SORT OF SHAPED LIKE OKLAHOMA, BUT TURNED OVER IS THE WAY I SORT OF SEE IT.
UM, YOU PROBABLY SEE THIS SITE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
UM, AND YOU DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY ALSO OWNED THAT SLIVER CONNECTING, UH, BETWEEN THE PUBLIX AND THE WALGREENS.
IT'S A VERY PROMINENT LOCATION, UM, ON, UH, DAVE BOULEVARD AND ALTON ROAD.
AND IT, THE BUILDING THAT EXISTS THERE, IF EMILY CAN GO FORWARD, IT'S A 1982 BUILDING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN VERY EXCITING MANY YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT REALLY FUNCTIONAL TODAY AND NOT A, NOT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ATTRACTING THE CLASS A TENANTS.
UM, SO CHASE IS ANXIOUS TO SEE A NEW SPACE FOR THEIR TENANCY.
AND OUR CLIENT REALLY WANTS TO DO, BECAUSE OF THE PROMINENT LOCATION AND BECAUSE OF, OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AT THIS SITE, WANTS TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION HERE.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU IS A REALLY SIMPLE CURRENT SOLUTION, WHICH IS REMOVING THAT 1980.
AND THAT WAS JUST WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE.
THAT WAS THE 2021 APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD.
WE WERE ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THAT RESULTED IN COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL, AND WE CAME BACK, BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION HERE.
IT REPLACES THE DATED BANK SPACE WITH A MORE MODERN, SIMPLE SPACE ON THE MOST PROMINENT LOCATION ON THE LOT, UM, AND MAKES THE LOT A LITTLE BIT, BREATHE, A LOT MORE, MORE FUNCTIONAL, A LOT OF LANDSCAPE, A LOT MORE RESILIENCY ON THIS LOT.
UM, SO THIS, THIS WILL BE THE SOLUTION FOR THE BANK.
IT TAKES THE BANK AND THAT TENDENCY OUT OF THE EQUATION OF THE DESIGN OF THE NEW BUILDING, WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE CHALLENGES.
AND, AND DOM'S BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.
UH, THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER, BUT IT, IT'S JUST BEEN A CHALLENGE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE WHOLE SITE AS THEY'RE PART OF IT.
UM, SO HERE'S, AGAIN, JUST POINTING OUT THE VARIANCES, WHICH ROGELIO DESCRIBED IN, IN SOME DETAIL.
THEY DON'T RELATE TO THE BUILDING.
THEY REALLY RELATE TO THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING AND THE, AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.
WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, BUT WE STILL FEEL THAT IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT'S THERE NOW.
IT REMOVES KIND OF THIS OVERBEARING BUILDING THAT, THAT REALLY ISN'T HELPING ANYONE AT THIS POINT, AND NOT DRAWING ANY DESIGN EXCITEMENT TO THE, TO THE AREA.
REPLACES IT WITH LANDSCAPING MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE CHASE BANK AND, AND, AND A NEW SLEEK, SIMPLE RESILIENT CHASE BANK, UH, LOCATION.
HERE'S SOME RENDERINGS OF THE, OF THE NEW BUILDING, WHICH HAS A SIMILAR VOCABULARY TO THE PRIOR APPROVAL, BUT OBVIOUSLY TAKING OUT A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
HERE'S THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA POINT OUT THE MAIN THING THAT STRIKES MOST OBVIOUS IS THE IRREGULAR SHAPE, WHICH JUST MAKES TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THESE SITE STANDARDS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING.
UH, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUESTED VARIANCES AND WHY WE HAD TO SKIP THE LAST FEW MEETINGS TO BE HERE.
UM, BUT STAFF UNDERSTANDS, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU DO AS WELL, THE CHALLENGES WITH THE SITE, AND AS A RESULT, THE, THE WARRANT, THE WARRANTED VARIANCES.
HERE'S JUST, AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO SORT OF SEE HERE, BUT THE LANDSCAPING, WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH THE STAFF ON THE LANDSCAPING.
IT'S GONNA BE A OPEN, WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, LUSH ENVIRONMENT ON, ON THAT PROMINENT LOCATION THAT WE THINK WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND AN IMPROVEMENT.
WHAT'S HERE TODAY, BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE SITE IS ULTIMATELY, WE, WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU, WE HOPE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN 2025 OR, OR THE NEXT YEAR.
WE JUST, THERE'S, THERE'S NO DEFINITE, UH, PLAN FOR A, A, THE NEW BUILDING THAT WILL COME HERE.
BUT, BUT WE DO, WE, WE DO THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN SOON.
DOMINIC, ALSO, IN ADDITION TO BEING AN OWNER HERE AND A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE COMMUNITY, HE LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAS BEEN REACHING OUT TO HIS NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES, AND WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN OF LAYERS OF SUPPORT FROM FIVE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE PROJECT REDEVELOPED.
AND, AND WITH THAT, UM, WE'D LIKE TO, TO CONCLUDE AND RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE A TICKED ON ZOOM.
RENEE IS HERE IN PERSON, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK AND THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN MAKE CLARIFICATION.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ANTICIPATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN YOUR OKLAHOMA SHAPED SITE, OR THE SORT OF RECTANGULAR AREA, THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY NORTH? WELL, NO, NO.
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PROPERTY, THE OKLAHOMA SHAPED SITE, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY.SO YOU MEAN THIS IS A TEMPORARY BUILDING, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THE BUILDING, WELL, THE, THE ANTICIPATION THAT THIS BUILDING WILL REMAIN, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS, IS NOT A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
I MEAN, THAT, I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT THAT COULDN'T CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THAT BUILDING WILL BE THE FUTURE HOME OF THE CHASE.
IT'LL BE ON THE, ON THEY, THEY WANTED SOMETHING ON THAT CORNER.
SO THERE WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, THE HOPE IS A DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE ON THE REMAINING REMAINDER OF THE SITE, WHICH WILL INCORPORATE PARKING.
IT WOULD REPLACE IN SOME WAY THE PARKING AREA.
THE PARKING MIGHT BE DIRECTLY EAST TO IT, CORRECT.
I MEAN, THAT HELPS CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION, I THINK IT'S A VERY PROMINENT INTERSECTION IN, IN MIAMI BEACH, AND IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER INTERSECTIONS.
I'M, YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE WALKABILITY THERE, UM, VERSUS DRIVABILITY AND, AND IF TRENDS WOULD SHIFT TO BE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
WELL, I THINK THAT THE DESIGN IS VERY CLEAN.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE PUBLIC AT ALL.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR YOUR GUYS', UH, THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT.
I JUST BE, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE DESIGN ITSELF, YOU WERE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, RENDERING AND SHOW EXACTLY WHERE THE VARIANCE IN THE PARKING AREA IS REQUESTED? SURE.
SO THE VARIANCES AND, AND THERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE VARIANCES.
THEY RELATE TO THE EXISTING PARKING AREA, NOT TO THE BUILDING, NOT TO THE NEW PARKING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.
BUT, UH, INSTEAD OF RE REDEVELOPING THE ENTIRE THING AND STARTING FROM SCRATCH, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS THAT ARE FUNCTIONAL.
AND THERE, SO IT'S, AGAIN, THE 16 FOOT PARKING SPACES WHEN TWO FEET OF PURVIEW OVERHANG IS REQUIRED, UM, OR PROVIDING 16 OR 18 IS REQUIRED.
UH, WE ARE MAINTAINING ASPHALT HARDSCAPE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND MAINTAINING EXISTING FOUR TO FIVE FOOT BORDER WHERE FIVE FEET IS REQUIRED.
UH, FOUR AND A HALF LANDSCAPE BORDER, WHERE FIVE FEET IS REQUIRED THERE.
WE BELIEVE THERE ARE REALLY MINOR VARIANCES.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS SUPPORTING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST MAINTAINING EXISTING THOSE EXISTING COMPONENTS.
THE BUILDING MEETS ALL THE CODE, AND MOST OF THE NEW, ALL OF THE NEW STUFF DOES MEET THE CODE AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE GOING FROM FIVE FEET TO FOUR AND A HALF FEET.
AND THEN THE 16 FEET PARKING SPACES, UH, WITH A TWO FOOT OF PERVIOUS OVERHANG, UM, WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT GOING TO BE? IT'S OCCURRING IN THE TEMPORARY, UH, PARKING LOT.
WHICH IS THE YELLOW SHADED AREA.
SO THAT MEETS CODE, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE TEMPORARY LOT WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING USED TO BE.
UH, BUT WHERE YOU HAVE TO THE NORTH AND TO WHERE THE OKLAHOMA PART MM-HMM.
SO WHEN IT'S CONVERTING TO TEMPORARY, IT DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT CODES.
I, THE, THE SHANE, I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF, UM, ITS CONNECTION TO THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND THEN TO THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON A VERY MAJOR INTERSECTION.
THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ACTUALLY, UM, IF YOU'RE HEADING WEST AND THEN GOING NORTH IS DECENT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT LITTLE, UM, ISLAND THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GET AWAY FROM THE MAIN INTERSECTION AND, AND MAKE THAT TURN.
UM, AS, AS TO THE REST OF THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF CLOSED IN, NOT VERY WELCOMING TO ANYBODY DRIVING BY OR WALKING BY.
NOT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WALKING IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE IS SOME.
THERE IS, THERE'S, I, I'VE, I'VE, THERE'S MORE THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT.
LIKE I'VE BEEN AT THAT CORNER AND I'VE SEEN PEDESTRIANS AND MORE THAN I WOULD EVER EXPECT.
BUT THERE IS, UM, MY, I HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS PLAN, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT ONCE YOU TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN AND JUST PUT THIS ONE SMALL BUILDING, THAT THE LOT IS GONNA JUST READ AS A GIANT PARKING LOT.
AND THIS IS SUCH A PROMINENT CORNER.
UM, THE OTHER THING TOO IS THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
UM, I MEAN, IT REALLY JUST LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD A DESIGN AND THEN YOU JUST SORT OF ERASED EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE LEFT WITH.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENTION.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, THIS COULD BE DOWN THE LINE, BUT WHO KNOWS,
SO NOW YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY AN ASPHALT PARKING LOT.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, LIKE THESE, THIS PARKING LOT, IT'S, IT'S BLACK ASPHALT.
IT'S NOT PERVIOUS, IT'S NOT ANYTHING.
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YOU'RE ADDING A MORE PARKING LOT TO REPLACE A LARGE BUILDING.AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PAVILION LIKE STRUCTURE THAT READS, TO ME, THIS FEELS LIKE A, LIKE A GREENHOUSE.
LIKE I KNOW THIS CORNER, IT GETS REALLY HOT.
IT'S REALLY, IN FACT, THAT WAS MY COMMENT FOR THE LAST DESIGN THAT WE HAD, THAT YOU HAD THIS OPEN SPACE UP TOP.
AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S GONNA GET REALLY HOT.
I'M JUST, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS DESIGN NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING LIKE SHAUNA, I THINK YOU SAID, TO RESPOND, LIKE, EVEN IF IT WAS AN OVERHANG TO CREATE SHADE ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
UM, BUT I THINK AS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT JUST REPLACING WITH PARKING LOT.
THERE IS GONNA BE MATURE TREES.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BUILDING, YOU JUST HAVE THIS RING OF GREENERY ALONG THE TOP AGAIN, IT JUST SORT OF LOOKS LIKE IT FLEW THERE AND STUCK.
UM, INTERESTINGLY, YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS RESILIENT NEW DESIGN, I, I FIND THIS TO BE ONE OF THE LEAST RESILIENT DESIGNS I'VE SEEN
SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF I'M MISINTERPRETING, IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, A GLASS PAVILION SURROUNDED BY NOTHING, UM, ON A BUSY STREET WHERE THERE ARE PEDESTRIANS AND THERE IS TRAFFIC, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT GESTURE FOR THIS SPACE.
AND MAYBE, SORRY, ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT JUST, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL BUDGETS AND DEVELOPMENT POSSIBILITIES, BUT AGAIN, LIKE BEING LESS DENSE THAN THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AT THIS MAJOR INTERSECTION, ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A SMALL ONE STORY BUILDING ON THAT INTERSECTION JUST SEEMS OUT OF PLACE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS OF THE FULL SITE, OR LIKE, IF THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IF, IF OTHER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, WILL IT GO UP? YOU KNOW, IS THIS BUILDING BEING DESIGNED TO ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, GROWTH IN THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOORS OR, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT FEELS JUST WAY OUT OF CONTEXT AT THIS INTERSECTION.
AND, UH, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHEN I, WHEN YOU FIRST, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE, THE DESIGN, NOW THIS, THE, UM, AND IN THE AGENDA, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A TEMPORARY THOUGHT, NOT A PERMANENT.
AND SURE ENOUGH, IT ISN'T PERMANENT BECAUSE THE REST OF THE SITE, THE PLANS HAVEN'T BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
AND SO I, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WITHOUT HAVING AN ENTIRE PLAN FOR THIS SITE.
UM, SO ESPECIALLY IN MIAMI BEACH, TO GO FROM, UM, SEVERAL STORIES TO ONE STORY, IT JUST, UM, UM, DOESN'T IT, IT JUST, TO ME, IT LOOKS MORE OF A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
I, I, I THINK WE'RE RESPONDING TO, TO CHASE REALLY AS BEING LIKE A LONGSTANDING BUSINESS THERE, SERVICING THAT COMMUNITY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE SEEN THEIR LOGO ON THE TOWER, AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, 20, 20 YEARS.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND KEEPING CHASE THERE, LIKE MICKEY MENTIONED, THE, THE LEASE AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY WANT TO ENFORCE, UM, HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE THE SMALLER BUILDING THAT WAS A REMNANT OF, OF THE PREVIOUS DESIGN.
UH, BUT THE PLACE CHASED THERE WITH THAT.
NOW, WITH THE WALKABILITY, OUR INTENT WAS TO, UH, ADDRESS THAT WITH BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, LUSH LANDSCAPE TREES THAT'LL REMAIN THERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT, HOPEFULLY FOR, FOR DECADES TO COME AND REALLY ADDRESS, UH, THAT NOW WITH HOW IT RESPONDS TO THE INTERSECTION.
UM, WE WERE HOPING THAT THE METAL SCREENING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ABOVE, THAT CREATES THIS PAVILION, UH, I GUESS ASPECT, UH, WAS KIND OF CREATES THIS SOME DEPTH BECAUSE IT IS OFF THE FACADE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A METAL PANEL LIKE SHINING DIRECT LIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH OR OR WEST AS YOU SAY.
AND YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT, AS YOU KNOW, CHASE IS KNOWN FOR THEIR, THEIR LIGHTING AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY ATTRACTING, YOU KNOW, UM, CUSTOMERS TO THEIR, TO THEIR SPACE AND TO, TO THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
UH, SO AT NIGHT WE'RE HOPING THAT IT BECOMES THIS JEWEL BOX, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE WORDS THAT CHASE DESCRIBES THIS AS SOMETHING SIMPLE.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FUTURE BUILDING, IT'LL BE INTEGRATED.
THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE, THE PREVIOUS DESIGN THAT WE HAD, THAT THE NEW BUILDING COULD INTEGRATE THE ROOFTOP AT SOME POINT AND REALLY ACTIVATE THAT SPACE EVEN FURTHER.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND WITH HOW ALTON ROAD, THAT THAT EDGE RIGHT THERE CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE QUITE BEAUTIFUL AND, YOU KNOW, SHADED AND PEOPLE CAN WALK TO WALGREENS.
IT'S GOT THE SAME CONTEXT AS WALGREENS AND PUBLIX.
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SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SHOW THE RENDERING THAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT CAN WE PUT UP YEAH, THERE YOU GO.SO THIS IS THE KIND OF, I THINK, IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, CHASE CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT PEOPLE TO, TO THE SITE.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S USUALLY BIZARRE FOR US TO COME ASKING FOR A BUILDING THAT'S SMALLER IN SCALE THAN WHAT'S THERE.
IT'S USUALLY THE OPPOSITE, OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A WASH HERE.
IT IS, IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE USUALLY DO.
UM, BUT IT IS A STEP IN GETTING TO WHAT I THINK ULTIMATELY WILL BE THE, THE RIGHT SOLUTION HERE.
UH, THE, THE, THE SITE IS, THAT IS, IS ZONED CD ONE AS, AS LIO SAID, AND IT'S FEELS LIKE IT WOULD BE A MORE INTENSE ZONING JUST 'CAUSE OF IT'S PROMINENT LOCATION AND WHAT'S AROUND IT.
CD ONE IS A 1.0 FAR, IT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
UM, BUT WHAT, SO WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE WAYS NOW TO, TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE AND DO SOMETHING MORE EXCITING WORK WITH THE CITY, BE IT A MIXED USE, BE IT SOME EXCITING RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, SOMETHING THERE THAT, THAT WE, WE KNOW THAT HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY WILL SUPPORT AND THE CITY WILL SUPPORT.
BUT THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT I POINTED OUT IS WORKING WITH, AGAIN, CHASE LONG-TERM TENANT, GREAT TENANT, BUT MAKING THEM PART OF THE DESIGN OF THAT NEW PROJECT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO HAVE A NEW SPACE.
AND THAT BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW IS KIND OF JUST A BIG CEMENT BLOCK THAT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT'S AROUND IT.
THIS WILL, I THINK, OPEN UP THE SITE IN A WAY THAT'S A MORE BREATHABLE AND YES, PARKING'S THERE, JUST IN LIEU OF DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DEMOLISH IMMEDIATELY.
WE, WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT THIS IS, WE BELIEVE A NECESSARY STEP TO GET THERE.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE IN YOUR COMMENTS, BUT REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN CARRY THIS, THIS TEMPORARY MEASURE IN A WAY THAT WILL GET US TO MAKE, MAKE THIS POINT B AND THEN TO GET US TO THE FINAL POINT.
SO MAY I, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, TO ME HONESTLY, IT FEELS KINDA LIKE A SALES CENTER FOR A CONDO.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE A TEMPORARY, I KNOW IT'S NOT A TEMPORARY BUILDING.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
I GOTTA ASK YOU THOUGH, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO NARROW THE SIDEWALKS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS SMALL BUILDING ON THIS BIG PARKING LOT? YOU, YOU WANT A LESS SPACE ON THE SIDEWALKS.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? FROM EIGHT AND A HALF FEET INSTEAD OF 10? NO, ACTUALLY, UM, WELL, THE NEW STANDARDS HAS THE, THE WIDER 10 FOOT CIRCULATION.
BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S A LITTLE TINY FIVE FOOT.
BUT WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS FROM SCRATCH FOR THIS TINY LITTLE BUILDING? NO, WELL, ON THE ALTON ROADSIDE, WE CAN'T REALLY CHANGE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL FDOT.
SO THAT WILL HAVE THAT EIGHT FOOT EIGHT REGARDLESS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
UH, SO WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING THAT EIGHT FOOT EIGHT, UH, AND HAVING A SMOOTH TRANSITION.
LEMME SEE IF, SO NORMALLY YOU'D HAVE TO DO 10 FEET, RIGHT? ON THE DADE BOULEVARD SIDE.
WELL, IT'S 10 FEET OF CIRCULATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF ROGELIO CAN EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK AND, AND ALSO LANDSCAPE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, BUT 10 FEET INSTEAD OF EIGHT AND A HALF.
AND THAT, MY WHOLE THING IS WITH, I KNOW STAFF APPROVES IT, BUT THIS TOWN HAS JUST NOT DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THE WIDTHS OF SIDEWALKS AND NEVER HAS ANYONE SAID THIS SIDEWALK'S TOO WIDE.
SO IT BOTHERS ME WITH A NEW BUILDING THAT YOU WOULDN'T MEET THE NEW STANDARDS.
THAT'S ALL WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE SIDEWALK.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU'RE STILL NOT MEETING THE NEW 10 FOOT WIDTH AND THAT I, IT JUST, I DON'T FIND A NEED FOR THAT.
AND THAT I THINK IS A WAIVER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK IT'S AT LEAST, I DUNNO IF LIO SAID IT, IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, IS IT IS AN FDOT ROAD.
SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT GETTING THAT ADDITIONAL, THOSE ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WE CLOSE TO IMPOSSIBLE, WE'RE OPEN TO HAVING THEM AND MAYBE WE END UP NOT NEEDING IT.
BUT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE INCLUDE IT BECAUSE OF THE UNLIKELY SCENARIO THAT F THOUGHT WILL APPROVE THOSE CHANGES WE'RE NOT DECREASING AND WE'RE INCREASING IT IN OTHER PLACES.
BUT IN THAT ONE SPOT, WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING THE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER A FOOT DIFFERENCE.
BECAUSE OUR STANDARD CALLS FOR A ESSENTIALLY A 15 FOOT, UH, UH, SIDEWALK.
BASICALLY FIVE FEET OF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE LANDSCAPING, AND THEN 10 FEET FOR WHAT WE CALL THE CIRCULATION ZONE, OF WHICH FIVE FEET NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY CLEAR.
YOU CAN'T PUT SIDEWALK CAFES, LIGHTING SIGNS OR ANYTHING ON THOSE FIVE FEET.
THIS AREA HAS A VERY WIDE LANDSCAPE, UH, AREA.
UM, SO OVERALL THE WIDTH OF THE, OF THE SPACE IS GREATER THAN 15 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE.
UM, BUT THE ACTUAL CIRCULATION ZONE IS A LITTLE BIT NARROWER, UH, THAN, THAN WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY WANNA SEE.
UH, BUT GIVEN THAT THE OVERALL WIDTH WAS GREATER, THEY ARE MAINTAINING A FIVE FOOT CLEAR PEDESTRIAN, UH, UH, PATH.
UH, BECAUSE THAT, WE DON'T EXPECT SIDEWALK CAFE SEATS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS AREA.
UH, WE WERE OKAY WITH THE WAIVER, UH, BUT THAT IS A CONCERN WE RAISED TO THEM.
BUT, BUT GIVEN THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS WITH FDOT AND, AND THEIR, AND, AND THE EXISTING WIDTH OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY, WE WERE, WE WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE WAIVER AND ON AND ON THE DAVE BOULEVARD SIDE WHERE THE TRIANGLE
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IS, WE, WE WANTED TO KEEP TWO FEET OF LANDSCAPE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THAT, THAT SLIVER OF GREEN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT IS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE EIGHT FOOT EIGHT IS, AND THEN FIVE FOOT OF LANDSCAPE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE DISCREPANCY OF THAT FOOT, FOOT AND A HALF IS REALLY THERE, KEEPING THAT TWO FOOT EDGE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS ON OUR, THE PROPERTY.
SO IN ESSENCE, NOT IN THE RIGHT, IS THERE CORRECT.
SO IF IN THE FUTURE WE, WE WANTED A 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, THERE'S ROOM FOR IT.
I'M, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND IN FRONT OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING, THAT, THAT IS ALL THAT LUSH LANDSCAPE AND IN LAYERS AND WITH TREES.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROPERTY LINE IS KIND OF LIKE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE PULL RIGHT AWAY AND GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE CURB AT DAVE BOULEVARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND FOR THE FUTURE OKAY.
I JUST, IT MAKES ME CRAZY WHEN WE HAVE THESE NARROW SIDEWALKS WITH NEW STUFF AND IT'S RIDICULOUS.
I, I THINK THAT TO GO BACK TO THE DESIGN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UM, AND THEN TO GO BACK TO THE DESIGN, THE NICE THING ABOUT HAVING A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD SORT OF PAVILION STRUCTURE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BONES AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA TAKE THAT MUCH TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING TO GET IT TO, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ALL SORT OF GETTING AT, OF, OF A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PUNCH A PRESENCE.
I, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, IT'S A PRETTY LONG BUILDING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KEEP THINKING OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS PROPERTY THAT IT IS NEXT TO THE WALGREENS THAT IS SURROUNDED BY A BIG PARKING LOT.
AND THEN THERE IS AN ALLEYWAY, AND THEN THERE'S A PARKING LOT, AND THEN THERE'S PUBLIX, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET IT'S DADE BOULEVARD AND THERE'S A CANAL.
SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT THIS TO FEEL EVEN MORE LIKE AN ISLAND OF PARKING LOTS IN A VERY CENTRAL LOCATION OF OUR CITY.
UM, SO THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PLAN IN GENERAL.
YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
I, I DON'T MIND THE ONE STORY, I, I'LL DISAGREE WITH MY PEERS UP HERE, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE REFRESHING TO HAVE A ONE STORY BUILDING AT THIS INTERSECTION, BUT I AM LIKE THEM, I AM CONCERNED ACTUALLY ON THE DATE, THE DATE SIDE OF THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY TIGHT ON THE, I GUESS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING, UM, WHERE WE JUST HIT THAT RIGHT ANGLE AND THEN GO INTO THE PARKING LOT.
UM, I'D, I'M ALSO CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE LANDSCAPING LOOKS LIKE ALONG THAT TEMPORARY, UM, YEAH, I DON'T IF YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT CAN SPEAK TO THAT, IF IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT HEDGE OR IF, IF VINCE IS LIO VINCE, UH, BILLY I THINK IS ON ZOOM.
I DUNNO IF HE CAN RAISE HIS HAND IF, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE QUESTIONS, HE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HIS PHONE NUMBER, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT NAME.
UM, LIKE IT JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOW HEDGE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT SOME TEMPORARY TREE OR I KNOW, OR SHADE TREES OR, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, UM, THOSE ARE THE, THEY'RE SHADE TREES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FOUR KIND OF MEDIUM SIZED, UH, CIRCLES.
AND THEN ARE, THERE'S AN EXISTING BEAUTIFUL TREE THAT'S THERE THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN AND, AND, AND KEEP, I THINK VINCE IS TRYING TO GET ON IF, IS IT, THERE'S A 3 0 5, 8, 5 8 NUMBER? IS THAT, IS THAT HIM? BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT NAME.
WELL, I ALSO, I HAD A SIMILAR COMMENT.
SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE QUEUING UP, YOU CAN, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ALL OF THIS TEMPORARY PARKING, BECAUSE LIKE WHY NOT, SINCE WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR THAT'S THE GOAL, HAVE LIKE A TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, ENLARGED PLANTING AREA, UM, A TREE BANK, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN THEY GET DISPERSED AROUND THE SITE WHEN THE BUILDING COMES.
OR LIKE, WHY DO WE NEED SO MANY PARKING SPACES IN THIS AREA TO THE RIGHT AND COULD WE NOT EXPAND THAT GREEN A LITTLE BIT MORE? WELL, THAT'S MORE OF A, I GUESS, TECHNICAL QUESTION WHY WE WENT TO THE TEMPORARY PARKING, RIGHT.
WELL, NUMBER ONE, I MEAN, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH OVER ON REQUIRED PARKING ARE WE? 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE TO STILL PARK THE, THE BANK, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT TO 5,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE.
SO THERE'S 55 EXISTING SPACES IN THE, IN THE CURRENT PARKING.
17 OF THOSE ARE, ARE DEDICATED TO, TO THE CHASE BUILDING PER CODE.
AND THEN I THINK IT'S KIND OF 30 MORE SPACES ARE DEDICATED ACTUALLY PER LEASE, I GUESS.
UH, THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT ARE ALREADY DEDICATED PER LEASE THAT WERE THERE BEFORE.
'CAUSE CHASE WAS THE, THE PRIMARY TENANT.
SOCIAL SECURITY JUST HAD MORE KIND OF IN AND OUT, UH, TYPE OF, UH, CLIENTELE.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF SWITCHING TO
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THE TEMPORARY PARKING, IT JUST SEEMED THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEAST, I MEAN, IMPACTFUL.I MEAN, I GUESS IF WE DO PLANT BEAUTIFUL TREES AND IT'S A TREE BANK, THOSE HAVE TO THEN COME OUT SO THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT.
THEY WOULD BE, COULD BE MOVED AND INTEGRATED INTO THE LANDSCAPE AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED.
I MEAN, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP SEE A PATH FORWARD WHERE THE CITY ISN'T SAY, SO TEMPORARY PARKING IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF COST, YOU KNOW, LIKE PAVED SURFACE LOT, BUT YOU'RE GETTING INCOME ON THE SITE.
SO HOW LONG CAN IT BE TEMPORARY PARKING AND WHY WOULD THERE BE AN INCENTIVE FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT? THE THE, THE GOAL HERE ISN'T TO GENERATE INCOME ON THE SITE.
THERE, THERE IS A LOT TO IT BEING THE SIMPLE AND MORE ECONOMICAL SOLUTION.
IF WE KNOW IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE, AND I'M TALKING AGAIN, I CAN'T GUARANTEE A TIME, BUT PROBABLY SOMETIME NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL BE THE MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION.
THIS WAS A, IT IS, IT IS BIZARRE, BUT IT WAS A NECESSARY STEP TO SEPARATE THE CHASE DISCUSSION FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND WE'VE TOOK US A WHILE TO GET CHASE ON BOARD.
BASICALLY EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO SEES THE, THE, THE FUTURE POTENTIAL OF THE SITE.
SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO START WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTRUSIVE FROM A LANDSCAPING AND THE SITE WORK THAT WE JUST KNOW IS GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT POSSIBLY BEFORE WE GET A PERMIT FOR IT.
SO THAT REALLY WAS THE THINKING.
WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A DESIRE TO MAKE A TEMPER AN ECONOMICAL, AN INCOME GENERATING LOT.
IT'S JUST A SIMPLE WAY TO GET US FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO HOPEFULLY SOON THEREAFTER, POINT C.
IT WAS A CHALLENGE TO TRY AND BE AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT, BUT WE DO THINK THIS WILL GET US TO THE SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION.
UM, I, I WILL TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT THE BUILDING ISN'T FULLY UTILIZED, UH, OR DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY ABOVE THE CHASE, UM, FLOOR.
RIGHT? THE CHASE BANK FLOOR THERE IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE.
UM, A LOT OF IT IS DONE BY ZOOM AND SOME OF IT IS DONE IN PERSON CONTACT.
AND IT IS A WONDERFUL AMENITY FOR MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT A WONDERFUL SERVICE.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT BETWEEN CHASE EMPLOYEES, CHASE CUSTOMERS, AND THE OCCUPANTS ABOVE THE CHASE BANK, THAT PARKING LOT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, A LOT OF TIMES IS FULL.
UM, MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN, AGAIN, I WILL REITERATE, IS THAT IT SEEMS WE'RE APPROVING SOMETHING PIECEMEAL.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO, AND I DON'T MIND APPROVING SOMETHING PIECEMEAL AS ONE BOARD MEMBER, AS LONG AS I KNOW WHAT THE OVERALL FUTURE PLAN IS GOING TO BE, SO THAT I CAN SEE HOW THIS WOULD INCORPORATE INTO THE FUTURE PLAN.
I, I THINK TO SORT OF
I, THIS, I I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
I, THIS TO ME IS HEADING TOWARDS ANOTHER CONTINUANCE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IF THAT BECOMES WHAT EVERYBODY VOTES ON, YOU HAVE SOME GOOD DIRECTION OF WHY WE THINK THIS MIGHT NOT BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT COULD BE? MM-HMM.
LIKE, HAVE WE EFFECTIVELY CONVEYED OUR CONCERNS? I, WELL, I, I THINK I WOULDN'T MIND PUSHING THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
I, I, MM-HMM,
AND MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS, AGAIN, EVERY TIME I ENVISION THAT, THAT PARCEL, THERE'S JUST SUN BEATING DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY OF ALL THE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOT EVER A LOT OF SHADE THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PE PEOPLE ARE WALKING
IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE COULD STAND UNDER SOMETHING IF IT WAS RAINING LIKE SO, LIKE AN EYEBROW.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S CLICHE, BUT YEAH.
YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE EYEBROWS ON EVERY BUILDING THAT WAS ON THE SIDEWALK IN THIS TOWN IN THE EARLY DAYS.
IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE SOME SHADE INTO THE INTERIOR.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT THE ONE NICE THING ABOUT WALKING DOWN LINCOLN ROAD IS SO MANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT SO THAT YOU DO HAVE ALMOST THIS LOJA EFFECT.
RIGHT? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP YOU CAN OR WANNA GO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I, AND I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING, I GUESS, 'CAUSE YOU DID PUT THIS HORIZONTAL LINE IN, BUT IT, IT, IF THAT COULD FUNCTION MORE AS AN AWNING OR A SHADE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING MAYBE THAT, THAT WOULD OFFSET, I'M GONNA SAY SORT OF THE AWKWARDNESS OF THIS SMALL BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, SHOVED INTO THE EXTREME CORNER OF THIS VERY LARGE PROPERTY.
RIGHT? SO THAT COULD BE ONE THING TO PLAY WITH.
UM, I ALSO DON'T KNOW, AND THIS IS MY
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PERSONALLY, IF, IF THE GREENERY ALONG THE TOP EDGE IS REALLY DOING WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO, MM-HMM.I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, IT'S SO FUNNY 'CAUSE IN SO MANY OF OUR CITY PARKING LOTS, THEY'VE TAKEN AWAY PARKING SPACES AND ADDED TREES, RIGHT? AND HERE YOU'RE DOING THE OPPOSITE.
SO I THINK THERE'S ALSO DIRECTION TOO ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GIVE IT SOME PRESENCE WITH SOME MATURE TREES OR SOMETHING.
AGAIN, WE ALL SEEM TO KEEP GOING BACK TO LIKE, OH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A SEA OF PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? THERE'S ADDING MORE PARKING LOTS TO A VERY PARKING LOT HEAVY SITE TO BEGIN WITH WITHIN ON A FOUR-LANE ROAD OR THE CORNER OF TWO FOUR LANE ROADS.
AN OPEN SPACE, I THINK TOO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRESS THOUGH, I MEAN, IF ANYBODY'S NOT ON THE SAME PAGE AS ME, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR PURPOSE AND YOUR REASONING FOR THIS.
SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO CAUSE CONDITIONS THAT WERE WASTEFUL OR WENT AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
SO I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
UNDERSTAND THE PARKING LOT'S NOT BEING CHANGED BECAUSE IT'S WHAT'S EXISTING.
ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO FLUFF IT.
BUT I, I WOULD NEVER WANT YOU TO SPEND TIME OR MONEY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE TORN OUT, UH, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO I THINK IF YOU COULD ADD SOME KIND OF SHADE STRUCTURE TO THE SIDEWALK AREA AND THEN KIND OF FLUFF UP THE LANDSCAPING A BIT WITH WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE, ARE SAYING, I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THIS'S GONNA BE REDEVELOPED, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T WANT YOU TO SPEND, WE DON'T WANNA WASTE THE ENERGY AND MONEY TO DO THAT.
WELL, AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'VE NOW SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE BOARD, I'VE SEEN THREE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE REASONING BEHIND WHAT THIS DESIGN IS AND THE LONG-TERM PLAN, BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO PLAN NECESSARILY.
I DO THINK THAT MYRA HAD A GOOD, A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION OF AT LEAST LEAST GIVE US WHERE THIS COULD BE GOING.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS, UM, THERE'S A SKYSCRAPER IN, UM, IN CHICAGO THAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE ADDED TO.
RIGHT? AND IT HAS SINCE BEEN ADDED TO, BUT WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE ADDITIONS STOOD ON ITS OWN.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S OUR CONCERN, THAT MAYBE THIS BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE THE PRESENCE THAT IT SHOULD CONSIDERING THE LOCATION.
SO CAN ANYBODY, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, VFD.
IS THAT YOUR LANDSCAPE? YEAH, THAT'S IT.
I DUNNO IF YOU WANT THEM TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS JUST SINCE SOME QUESTIONS ON LANDSCAPE.
IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST HAVING TO ADDRESS THOSE VERY QUICKLY.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESS.
UH, VINCENT, IF YOU COULD, UM, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING THIS PROCEEDINGS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
YOU MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD NOW.
SO I GUESS THE ISSUE AT HAND WAS THAT YOU WANNA START MICKEY? WELL, I GUESS I COULD JUST REPEAT THE QUESTION IS JUST MOSTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, LONG DAY BOULEVARD, I GUESS IN THE SITE IN GENERAL, LIKE IN TERMS OF, UH, PROVIDING MORE TREES OR SHADE OR, OR SHADING TYPE OF ELEMENTS, UH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE LANDSCAPE IS, IS REALLY THE QUESTION.
AND LIKE, WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON LIKE AROUND DADE BOULEVARD.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME TREES PROPOSED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURE AND ALONG ALTON ROAD, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE LANDSCAPE THERE.
SO BASICALLY WE'LL START WITH THE PARKING.
THAT'S FULLY ENCLOSED AND, AND BUFFERED FROM THE STREET.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT IS THE PROVIDING SHADE ELEMENTS ALONG, UM, THE, THE SIDEWALK AREAS IS THAT, IS, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASSUMING WE'RE SPEAKING OF.
SO WE'VE, WE HAVE TREES AND PALMS AND, AND STREET TREES THAT DO ALIGN ON DAVE BOULEVARD, UH, THAT DO THAT.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I MEAN, ANYTHING CAN BE RELOCATED LATER TIME.
UH, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, OR WE DO HAVE ACTUALLY THE, THE SHADED TREES AND PLANTING, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT CAN EASILY BE RELOCATED FOR FUTURE IMPLEMENTS.
SO GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU ALL WERE SAYING, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO AT LEAST TRY AND BRING BACK TO YOU AND NOT COMPLETELY REDO THIS WHOLE THING, BUT MAYBE ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE CHARACTER, A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCENTS TO THE BUILDING, MAKE IT HAVE MORE PROMINENCE, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I, I, I DON'T KNOW, MYRA, THAT WE CAN BRING YOU A PLAN.
I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IDEAS, BUT WE'RE WE, THIS IS, WE, WE REALLY WERE HOPING TO HAVE, WHENEVER THIS IS APPROVED, THAT BLANK SLATE SO WE COULD THEN FULLY WORK ON SOMETHING WITH KNOWING THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S JUST BEEN TOO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT WE CAN MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHERE WE THINK IT MIGHT GO.
BUT, BUT AS FAR AS THAT BUILDING TODAY AND MAKING IT A LITTLE, AS YOU SAID, A SAID, A LITTLE MORE UMPH, A LITTLE BIT MORE CHARACTER, WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT AND MAYBE JUST MODIFY THE
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LANDSCAPING A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S FURTHER BUFFERS THE, THE, THE PARKING AND PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE SHADING AND AND CHARACTER TO THE WALKING AREAS.I, I'M NOT SURE IF, UM, IF YOU'RE, UM, IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THIS, BUT IN REMOVING, IN REDUCING THIS BUILDING FROM THE NUMBER OF STORIES IT HAS NOW TO THE ONE STORY DESIGN THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, UM, DOES IT REQUIRE TOTAL DEMOLITION OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE INTERIOR DEMOLITION REMOVAL OF PART OF THE BUILDING ON THE SIDES AND, AND ON THE UPPER FLOORS? IT'S A, IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING NOW, AND IT WILL BE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THAT EXISTING BUILDING.
THE PROPOSAL IS A TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THAT BUILDING.
AND JUST BACK ON THE LANDSCAPING, I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK, WHAT, WHAT COULD ALSO BE HELPFUL IS IF YOU HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS OR, OR RENDERINGS OF, OF WHAT THAT PARKING LOT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO VISUALIZE IN THE PLAN VIEW ONLY.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AS WELL.
DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? SORRY, WAIT, CONTINUE.
I MEAN, YEAH, I'D MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUING OCTOBER.
WE'LL, WE'LL PRETTY NARROW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SO I THINK WE CAN BE READY IN OCTOBER.
THEY, THEY HAVE THE DEADLINE OF WHATEVER, YOU KNOW THAT, SO YEAH.
UH, TWO, IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING BY FRIDAY THE 13TH.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION BY MR. D FOR SECOND WAS MS. LEWIN.
[7. DRB24-1016, 976 WEST 41ST STREET, 3925 & 3915 ALTON ROAD]
FOR THE NEXT ITEM AND HAVE, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR TAKE OVER.THE NEXT ITEM OF THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 16 9 76 WEST 41ST STREET, 39 25, AND 39 15 ALTON ROAD.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SEVEN STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO REPLACE EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICATION INCLUDES A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR SETBACK AND INCLUDE ONE OR MORE VARIANCE.
THIS WAS CONTINUED ON JUNE 4TH AND JULY 2ND MEETING ONLY THE VARIANCE WAS CONTINUED.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST, UH, FOR BACKGROUND, THE, THE PROJECT ACTUALLY RECEIVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL, UH, ON JUNE 4TH, 2024.
UH, BY THE BOARD, THERE WAS A VARIANCE THAT WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
WE DID NOT HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING.
SO THE ITEM, UH, THE VARIANCE HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
SO THE ONLY THING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
UM, THE ACTUAL PROJECT, THE DESIGN REVIEW OF THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
UM, THE PROJECT ALSO RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A CONDITIONERS PERMIT FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT STRUCTURE IN, IN MARCH.
UM, THE, UH, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF ALTON ROAD IN 41ST STREET.
UM, THE, UH, THE SITE IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A FIVE FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK.
IT DOES HAVE AN IRREGULAR CORNER THAT FORCES THE BUILDING TO BE PUSHED BACK, UH, IN ORDER TO CREATE SOME MORE OPEN SPACE ON THAT CORNER.
UM, AND, AND BECAUSE IT IS IN IRREGULAR LOT, UM, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE TEXTBOOK CASE FOR WHY VARIANCES EXIST.
UM, AND SO THAT IS A, A HARDSHIP FOR THE SITE AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, OF THE REAR SETBACK VARIANCE.
UM, THE REAR OF THE SITE IS WHERE THE LOADING AND THE TRASH PICKUP AND EVERYTHING TAKES PLACE.
THEY ARE IMPROVING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS CURRENTLY THAT HAPPENS OUTDOORS.
THEY ARE INTERNALIZING, UH, THE LOADING, THEY ARE INTERNALIZING THE TRASH PICKUP.
UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING, UH, A RAMP INTO THE GARAGE IN THE REAR SETBACK, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY DRIVEWAYS ON THE PRIMARY FRONTAGES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WHICH, WHICH IMPROVES THE, THE LOOK OF, OF THE 41ST STREET CORRIDOR AND THE ALTON ROAD CORRIDOR.
SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST, UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE VARIANCE BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND BEFORE WE START, I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, UH, EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE, UH, NEED TO BE EXPOSED.
UM, DO YOU SWEAR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND ARE YOU EXPECTING ANY MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM THAT I SHOULD SWEAR IN NOW? NO.
OKAY, MR. VICE-CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS IRA GILLER, 9 75 ARTHUR GODFREY ROAD.
UH, I'M THE, THE PRINCIPAL IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S, UH, OUR FAMILY'S DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY THAT
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WE'VE HAD FOR OVER 40 YEARS.UH, AS MOST OF YOU RECALL, I THINK MYRA, YOU WERE NOT AT THE MEETING.
UH, THE, THE PREVIOUS, UH, REQUESTS FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED.
SO TODAY'S FOCUS IS REALLY JUST ON THE, ON THE REAR SETBACK ALONG THE ALLEY.
UH, AND AS ROGELIO SAID, THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE OF WHY VARIANCES WERE CREATED.
THERE'S A HARDSHIP BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE LAND.
UH, I WILL BRING, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, UH, UH, THE ACCESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALONG THE ALLEY THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF THE CIRCLE.
AND, UH, I CAN POINT THAT OUT RIGHT HERE.
YOU SEE, UH, THE VIEW IN THE ALLEY ITSELF IN ITS CURRENT STATE AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE ARE, ARE VIEWS OF, OF, FROM THE ALLEY, UH, THAT'S AFFECTED.
WE'VE GOT OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, AND I THINK I'LL JUST GO TO THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE ALLEY IN THE GRAY AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE RAMP WHERE PARKING IS HERE.
AND THIS IS THE LOADING ZONE, WHICH IS A COVERED LOADING ZONE.
UH, THERE'S BUILDING OVER OVER IT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VARIANCE OF THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK ALONG HERE.
THAT'S THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT.
IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, I THINK THIS IS, I I DON'T WANNA BELABOR IT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT IF ANY OF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
SHOULD WE OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FIRST? IS THERE ANYBODY ON THAT? THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.
SO THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC PORTION.
UM, I CONCUR WITH STAFF'S ANALYSIS THAT, UM, THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE REQUIRED TRANSITION BETWEEN, UH, BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND SIDEWALK ELEVATION DO INDEED CREATE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT JUSTIFY, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.
AND SO I, I INTEND TO VOTE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO DO SO AS WELL.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I, I THINK THAT ENTRANCE, UM, TO THE GARAGE AND THE LOADING AREAS IN THE BACK, HIDING IT AWAY FROM VISIBILITY OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THAT SIDEWALK AND COMING TO THAT BUILDING IN THE FUTURE MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
IF THE VARIANCE IS NOT GRANTED THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK, THEN THERE, REALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THERE'S LESS AREA FOR A TRUCK TO GO IN AND PARK TO DO LOADING OR UPLOADING.
UM, AND THE RAMPING INTO THE PARKING GARAGE WOULD BE REDUCED BY FIVE FEET.
AND I THINK THAT CREATES MORE OF AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THOSE USING, UM, THAT SERVICE IN THE BACK.
ANYBODY ELSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION THEN? UH, I MOVE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE SECOND.
THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CHAIR SARAH GIL NELSON, DID RECUSE HERSELF, UH, DUE TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
[8. DRB24-1019, 1339 14TH TERRACE – Casa Leroy Dobles]
IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 19 13 39 14 TERRACE CASA LEROY DOLES.AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SITE.
THIS WAS CONTINUING FROM THE JULY 2ND MEETING.
SO, SO THIS, THIS ITEM IS STATED WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JULY 2ND MEETING.
THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS, UM, WITH A GREEN WALL THAT WAS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE, OF THE FRONT FACADE.
UH, THE CONCERN WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH INITIALLY IT MAY LOOK VERY GOOD, UM, THAT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, OF THE GREEN WALL WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT IN THE FUTURE, UH, LEADING TO LEADING TO THAT GREEN WALL, NOT, NOT LOOKING AS GOOD IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT SOME REVISED PLANS.
ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE CONTINUING THE SCREENING THAT WAS, UH, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FACADE INTO THE EAST SIDE OF THE FACADE.
UH, STAFF FEELS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE BOARD.
UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UH, THAT THE, UH, DESIGN BE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED WAIVER.
THE WAIVER WAS SIMPLY OF THE, OF THE GROUND FLOOR CLEARANCE, WHICH, WHICH SHOULD BE OKAY BECAUSE THERE THERE'S
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NOT MUCH, UH, UM, HABITABLE SPACE ON THAT GROUND FLOOR.IT'S REALLY FOR UPPER LEVEL ACCESS.
SO REALLY STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THAT.
UM, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS? NOPE.
AND SIR, HAVE ALL HAVE EVERYONE BEEN SWORN IN ON YOUR TEAM OR DO YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN? I WAS SWORN IT.
UH, WARD, THIS IS, UH, RONNIE MATEO OF MATEO ARCHITECTURE 8 8 8 7 SOUTHWEST HUNDRED 31ST STREET, MIAMI.
UH, WE WERE HERE TWO MONTHS AGO WITH, UM, THIS PROJECT.
UH, I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU WERE NOT HERE AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING, AND I, UH, I'M REMISS THAT IN MY SUBMITTAL PRESENTATION FOR TODAY, I DIDN'T SHOW WHAT IT WAS THE LAST TIME VERSUS NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, BUT NEVERTHELESS, UM, I RECALL BASICALLY A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THE CONCERN.
AS ROGELIO STATED, THE, THE GREEN WALL THAT WE HAD PROPOSED, UH, OVER THE GARAGE ENTRANCE, UH, VERTICALLY ON THE EAST AND SOUTH CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
UH, EVEN THOUGH WE PROPOSED A SYSTEM THAT IS, UH, DESIGNED TO BE GREEN ON THE FRONT AND ON THE BACK OF IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT A GREEN WALL THAT WAS, WOULD GO UP ON A SOLID WALL, BUT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A TRANSPARENT GREEN WALL.
AND THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS ACCESSIBLE FROM THE, UH, FRONT PORCHES, IF YOU WILL, OF OUR, OF OUR DUPLEX.
BUT, UH, THE CONCERN WAS RAISED THAT MAINTENANCE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE FOR THIS.
AND SO WITH THAT REGARD, UH, WE MADE THIS PROPOSED, UH, UH, CHANGE.
UH, OUR DESIGNS, UH, TYPICALLY IN OUR WORK IS, UH, WE TRY TO BE VERY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE INTENTIONS.
THIS IS A DUPLEX, UH, PROJECT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESENTATION TO THE STREET WAS NOT OF A, YOU KNOW, UH, BOOKEND OR, YOU KNOW, BACK TO BACK DESIGN SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
SO WE TRIED TO CREATE A FACADE THAT WAS MORE UNIFYING OF A, OF A SINGLE, UH, STRUCTURE, EVEN THOUGH THE, THE PLANS FOR THE PROJECT, UM, ARE SYMMETRICAL EAST AND WEST, UM, SEE IF I'M GONNA DO THIS RIGHT.
UM, HOW DO I, HOW DO I CHANGE THIS? UH, HERE WE GO.
THERE IT'S ALRIGHT TO GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THE, OH, OKAY.
UM, THE SITE, UM, UH, THE LOCATION, THE CONTEXT IS, UH, ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HIGH RISES AND STILL SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ET CETERA, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
UM, THESE ARE A NUMBER OF PICTURES OF THE SURROUNDING THE ISSUES WITH, UH, UH, RAISING THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE FLOOR PLANS THAT ARE COMPOSED OF A PARKING GARAGE ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
UH, IT IS HIDDEN BY THE FOYER AND THE FRONT PORCH, IF YOU WILL, OF THE, OF THE BUILDING THAT HIDES THE, THE PARKING AND THEN THE UNITS, UH, OCCUPY, UH, TWO FLOORS, UH, ABOVE THE PARKING PLUS A ROOF, UH, DECK.
UM, THE OTHER COMMENT, ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE AT THE BOARD MEETING LAST, UH, TIME WAS, UH, UH, A BEDROOMS, UH, THAT WE, UM, PROPOSED ON THE THIRD, UH, FLOOR, UM, SORRY, ON THE, ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN THE BACK OF THE, OF THE BUILDING THAT, UH, THAT COMMENT WAS MADE THAT, UH, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE WINDOWS.
AND WE INTRODUCED SOME NEW WINDOWS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THAT, UH, OF THOSE BEDROOMS. UH, THOSE TWO THINGS WERE THE MAJOR, UH, COMMENTARY OF, OF, OF OUR BOARD MEETING LAST TIME.
AND WE HAVE DONE THAT, UM, BY INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL WINDOWS IN THE REAR BEDROOMS, WHICH ARE NOT THE MAIN BEDROOM, BUT, UH, TWO, UH, BEDROOMS, UM, ON THE,
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ON THE LOWER LEVEL.UH, AGAIN, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD, SIMPLE COMPOSITION IS WHAT WE INTENDED TO DO HERE WITH A CENTRAL AREA THAT WAS A TWO STORY VOLUME THAT WOULD BRING LIGHT IN FROM THE SIDES OF THE UNITS.
AND, UH, USING, UH, HORIZONTAL LOUVERS FOR SHADING ON THE SOUTH AND AND EAST SIDE AND IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHILE USING VERTICAL LOUVERS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES TO ALLOW LIGHT INTO THE CENTER PORTIONS OF, UH, OUR COMPOSITION.
UM, WE HAVE LANDSCAPE PLANTERS THROUGHOUT.
UM, THEY'RE ALL ACCESSIBLE, UH, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE EASY TO, TO MAINTAIN.
AND, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, TODAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ONLINE? NOBODY LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? ONE, I CAN SAY THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GAVE YOU.
I DID NOTICE, UM, I DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME REALLY LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO MOVE THERO PROCESS FORWARD AS PRODUCTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
AND I DID NOTICE THAT THE BEDROOM ORIENTATION AND THE BATHROOMS WERE CHANGED.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY NICE, I'M GLAD THAT YOU DID THAT, UM, AS WELL AS REMOVING THE GREEN WALL.
UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? I CAN KEEP GOING.
I I CAN JUST YEAH, ADD ONTO THAT, THAT, UM, I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS IN THE, BRINGING THE DESIGN BACK TO OUR BOARD AND I THINK IT'S STILL A VERY CLEAN AND THOUGHTFUL BUILDING AND I THINK IT, IT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I DO THINK, I AGREE THAT THE FLOOR, THE SLIGHT TWEAKS IN THE FLOOR PLAN, UM, ARE, ARE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND THE FACADE ELEVATION AS WELL.
I, UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THOUGH.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED WAS THE WINDOW PLACEMENT IN THE BEDROOMS ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
IT SEEMS, AND MAYBE I'M JUST READING THE ELEVATION WRONG, IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE WINDOWS ARE MAYBE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALL, WHEREAS I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE UP HIGHER.
IS THAT, UH, IN THE MASTER BEDROOM? IN THE, THE BEDROOM? THE THIRD FLOOR? YEAH, THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR, YEAH, THE THIRD FLOOR.
WE HAVE A LIGHT, LIKE A, ACROSS THE TOP, A CLEAR FLOOR THAT'S FACING NORTH.
BECAUSE IN THE PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WINDOWS ARE IN THE CENTER OF THE WALL, NOT TOWARDS THE CEILING.
NO, THEY, UM, THERE ARE WINDOWS THAT ARE AT THE, THE, AT THE LOWER LEVEL UHHUH THAT ARE SIDEWAYS, UH, ON A, INTO A PLANTER THAT, NO, I'M ON, ON THE, ON THE MASTER BEDROOM.
THE THIRD FLOOR, I'M THINKING THE THIRD FLOOR, THE ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS, BEDROOM TWO, AND THE ONES ON THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
ONE? NO, I THINK IT'S THE THIRD FLOOR.
I'M LOOKING AT, UM, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 19, BUT NOT OF THE PRESENTATION.
IS THERE AN ELEVATION THAT YOU COULD SHOW? OKAY.
IS IT WHERE THE TUB IS? IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE SPEAKING? NO, I THINK IT'S THE BEDROOM.
IF YOU GO BACK, IT'S THE SIDE.
DO YOU SEE TO THE LEFT, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO BANKS OF WINDOWS.
THERE'S A SQUARE ONE, AND THEN ABOVE IT THERE'S A RECTANGULAR ONE.
THE RECTANGULAR ONE LOOKS VERY LOW.
SHOULDN'T IT BE HIGHER TOWARDS THE CEILING? THE RECTANGULAR ONE? UM, IT STARTS AT THE FLOOR OF THE THIRD FLOOR.
BUT ISN'T THAT THE BEDROOM? YES.
SO WOULDN'T THE BED BE AGAINST THAT WALL? NO.
I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU'RE PUTTING NO, THE BED WINDOWS AT THE BOTTOM.
SO THE, UH, THE WINDOWS THAT ARE, UM, THE VERTICAL ONE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS WHERE THE, UM, WHERE THE TUBS ARE? I, I'M REFERRING TO THE HORIZONTAL ONE AFTER THE CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THIS ONE ON TOP OF THE BEDROOM.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT BEDROOM? YES.
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WE HAVE, UM, THE, THE, UM, HORIZONTAL BA UH, THE HORIZONTAL BAND IS AT SORT OF HEADBOARD ABOVE THE HEADBOARD LEVEL ACROSS WHERE THE BED IS.AH, IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF THE BED.
THE, THE BED, THAT SLOT IS JUST ABOVE THE HEADBOARD.
IT'S IN SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALL IF YOU WERE TO WALK INTO THE ROOM AS OPPOSED TO CLOSER TO THE TOP.
I WAS JUST GONNA RECOMMEND, AGAIN, LIKE, NOT, NOT BINDING, BUT FOR USABILITY OR COMFORT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF THE PERSON THAT BUYS OR RENTS THE UNIT HAS A TALLER HEADBOARD, IT JUST MEAN IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VERSATILE IF THE WINDOWS WERE UP A LITTLE HIGHER.
I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BALANCE OUT THE WINDOW PLACEMENT IN GENERAL, THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE ON THAT FLOOR.
ALL THE WINDOWS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE STARTING AT THE SAME.
SO I, SO I, I COULD, I COULD, UH, SAY THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT, UH, WINDOW AND PUT IT UP AT THE SCORE LINE THAT'S ABOVE AND BE DONE WITH THE YES.
NO, AND I THINK THAT OVERALL IT WOULD, IT WOULD.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD LAST TIME WAS THAT YOU HAVE THESE ELEMENTS, THE PLACEMENT OF THE WINDOW.
IS IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS AS MUCH INTENTION NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE WAS, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BEING CONVEYED.
AND CERTAINLY DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS HAD QUESTIONED THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE WINDOW PLACEMENT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FACADE ELEMENTS, AND THAT WOULD HELP UNIFY IT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT WE DO PUT WINDOWS IN.
AND A LOT OF TIMES, UHHUH, IN SOME OF OUR PROJECTS, WE'VE DONE WINDOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IN A LIVING ROOM, LET'S SAY, THAT ARE FROM THE FLOOR UP TO THREE FLOOR, UH, TO THREE FEET.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIT DOWN IN THE LIVING ROOM COUCH OR SOMETHING, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN SEE OUT OUT THERE, AND YOU STILL HAVE A WALL THAT YOU CAN HANG ART ON, ET CETERA, OR SHELVES OR FURNITURE, WHATEVER.
SO WE DO THESE KIND OF THINGS SO THAT WE GIVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES FROM THE, FROM THE ORDINARY ONES OR THE ONES THAT EVERYBODY EXPECTS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE TREAT THIS.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH MOVING THAT HORIZONTAL, UH, OOPS, UM, WINDOW UP TO THE, TO THE SCORE LINE ABOVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
AND, UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, I GUESS TO THAT POINT, SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE FRONT FACADE IS THAT YOU DIDN'T WANNA MAKE THAT HERE.
THIS IS, IT'S A DUPLEX, AND IN THE REAR YOU DO HAVE THIS ALMOST LIKE A FIN THAT REALLY DOES DEFINE THE TWO DIFFERENT UNITS.
AND SO I WAS CURIOUS THOUGH, WHY YOU DIDN'T CONTINUE THAT IN THE FRONT.
IN THE FRONT YOU DO HAVE THIS OTHER VERTICAL, AND WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THERE WAS THE GREEN WALL DID ADD SOME DIMENSION AND SOME INTEREST, AND NOW IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE THIS VERTICAL, IT DOESN'T GO ALL, IT JUST SORT OF ENDS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD CONTINUE, OR AGAIN, I'D LOVE TO SEE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
WELL, THE, THE, THE THINKING BEHIND IT IS THAT WE, WHILE WE DO HAVE THOSE FINS, UH, STICKING OUT, BECAUSE IT IS IN FACT A DUPLEX, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS NOT AS IMPORTANT, LET'S SAY THAT THE BACK OF THE HOU OF THE BUILDING OR THE NORTH SIDE, UH, UH, SHOW THE SAME KIND OF TREATMENT AS THE SOUTH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PUBLIC SPACE, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC SIDE.
BUT WE WANTED THESE, THE, EVEN THOUGH I, I WAS INTENT IN MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A, LIKE TWO THINGS MIRRORED.
WE DID HAVE THAT FIN WALL STICKING OUT TO SORT OF SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE TWO UNITS HERE RATHER THAN JUST ONE.
IT'S SORT OF A SYMBOLIC, UH, SEPARATION.
IT WASN'T INTENDED TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ET CETERA, AS, AS THE BUILDING IS IN FACT THE DUPLEX.
SO THAT WAS WHY THOSE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THOSE FINS WERE, WERE PROPOSED.
WELL, HELIO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE, UM, VARIANCE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED? UM, THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUESTING A WAIVER.
UM, THE WAVE, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE GROUND FLOOR HAVE A MINIMUM CLEARANCE OF 14 FEET ABOVE THE DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS, IT'S REALLY JUST PROVIDING ACCESS.
AND I BELIEVE A MAIL ROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR, IT'S NOT REALLY A TRUE, UH, USABLE SPACE.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO REDUCE THAT TO 12 FEET.
UM, AND GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT PROMINENT SPACE,
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WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THAT.YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MATERIALS.
THE TRELLIS, I NOTICED THAT, THAT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE TRELLIS IS MADE OF METAL, THOUGH I HAD INITIALLY ASSUMED IT WAS SOME SORT OF WOOD OR WOOD PRODUCT.
LOUVRE IS, UM, THE, THE MATERIALS AROUND THE WINDOW FRAMES, IS THAT ALSO METAL OR IS THAT PAINT? YES.
SO IN YOUR PRESENTATION, WHENEVER WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S A BROWN COLOR, THAT'S METAL, YES.
IT'S NOT WOOD, IT'S NOT PAINT.
BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AND, YOU KNOW, BEING WHERE IT IS, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, WE ALL LOVE WOOD.
BUT, UH, HOW LONG YOU REFER TO MAINTENANCE OF THE LA OF THE GREEN WALL? YEAH, I MEAN, THE MAINTENANCE OF WOOD IS AN ISSUE ALSO.
SO WE MADE IT ALL ALUMINUM TUBING.
UM, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE GARAGE DOOR? THE GARAGE DOOR WOULD BE A, A, A COMPOSITE.
AND IT WOULD BE PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS AS THE METAL AS THE MOVERS.
WE DO HAVE, BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICE, BUT WE DO HAVE A SMALL LITTLE GREEN WALL IN THE, AT THE FOYER, UH, UH, ENTRANCE ON THE LEFT SIDE.
I, I, I, I DID NOTICE THAT, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FACADE COULD STILL USE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF REFINEMENT AND THAT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU TOOK OUT THE GREEN AND YOU JUST SORT OF PUT SOME, YOU KNOW, VERY PLAIN TILE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THERE'S SO MUCH METAL SCREENING.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT, BUT I, I DO FEEL, I, I WANT, I WANT TO GO WITH YOU IN THIS SORT OF VERY SIMPLIFIED DESIGN, SIMPLIFIED ELEMENTS.
I, I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS A NICE GESTURE, BUT I ALSO, I THINK IT ALSO HAS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE PUSH A PERSONALITY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO ADVISE YOU, BUT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE REST OF THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CENTER, HOW YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TRELLIS ALONG BI DISSECTING IT, IT'S REALLY SORT OF INTERESTING.
AND I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING.
I DUNNO, MAYBE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH SCREENING IN THE FRONT.
I, I, I WISH I COULD BE MORE ARTICULATE.
SHAUNA ARE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR SOMETHING? UH, WELL, I GUESS I, I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE SIMPLICITY OF THE DESIGN AT THAT MOMENT.
SO, AND I FEEL LIKE THE MOMENTS OF PERSONALITY ARE THE ARTICULATION OF THE FENESTRATION AS YOU MOVE AROUND THE FACADE.
AND THEN I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROOFTOP DECK HAS BEEN SORT OF NICELY DESIGNED AND THE VERTICAL TRELLIS.
SO THE HORIZONTALS OF THE VERTICAL SHIFT, I, I, I THINK THAT IT'S SHARING THE SAME LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S CHANGING THE ELEMENTS JUST ENOUGH.
AND SO I, I, I PERSONALLY SUPPORT IT.
I WONDER IF WAY THE TILE IN THE FRONT WAS, WAS ALWAYS THERE.
OH, IT WAS BEHIND THE, NO, IT WAS, UH, THE, THE GREEN WALL WAS TO THE RIGHT.
TO THE, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE SYMMETRICAL.
BUT INSTEAD OF IT BEING THE HORIZONTAL WOOD ACROSS, IT WAS JUST GREEN ON THE RIGHT.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT I GUESS I, IT SEEMS LIKE NOW THERE'S JUST MORE HORIZONTALS MAYBE PART OF THE ANSWER.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, ON THE BALCONIES, THE SOLID BALCONIES ON THE FRONT, SOME OF THEM DO HAVE GREEN HANGING DOWN OR PLANTERS.
WERE YOU GONNA PUT PLANTERS IN ALL OF THOSE BALCONIES? YES.
THE REASON THE ONE IN THE CENTER DOESN'T HAVE THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S THE LANDING OF THE GOING UP ON THE STAIRS.
SO WE COULDN'T PUT IN A, UM, A, A PLANTER IN THE FRONT PART.
IT HAS THEM, IT HAS THEM ON THE SIDE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT FOR ME, THAT WOULD, A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN THERE WOULD CREATE THAT BALANCE THAT I THINK I'M, I'M SORT OF OFFSET THE METAL.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL AGREE TO THIS, HOW THIS WE'LL TAKE, UH, ON THE SECOND LEVEL WHERE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE PLANTER IN THE FRONT DOESN'T HAVE, I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE THE RAILING ON THE LEFT SIDE DOESN'T HAVE THE PLANT.
'CAUSE IT'S A LANDING ON THAT FLOOR LEVEL.
WHAT IF I INTRODUCED A PLANTER ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND REMOVE THE, THE HORIZONTAL SCREENS FROM A RAILING HEIGHT? JUST IN THAT, WHAT, IN THAT CORNER YOU PUT A PLANTER, BUT IT BREAKS UP THE VERTICALITY OF THE CORONARY A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE CAN YOU BRING UP A PICTURE AND SHOW ME? I'M NOT FOLLOWING.
SO I DON'T, CAN I POINT DO AN ARROW THING HERE? YOU KNOW HOW TO, THIS WOULD STILL, THIS WOULD STILL BE ON THE LANDING.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS I WOULD TAKE A PLANTER IN THIS, LIKE THIS ONE YEAH.
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BREAK UP THE VERTICALITY OF THE RIGHT SIDE THERE WITH A PLANTER OR NOT.I MEAN, I, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF THAT, HOW WOULD YOU GET TO THAT? WHAT WOULD BE THE ACCESS TO THAT FACTOR FROM THE BACK? IT, IT'S A, IT'S THE, IT'S THE, IT'S THE FRONT PORCH OF ALL OF THE FLOORS.
THERE'S A WHOLE CIRCULATION SPACE BEHIND THAT.
SO YOU GET ACCESS TO IT JUST LIKE THE OTHER PLANTERS FROM BEHIND.
I, I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, IT'S NICE THAT YOU HAVE, I I THINK THAT WOULD DISRUPT THE RHYTHM THAT YOU'VE CREATED.
I THINK IF, IF THE ISSUE WAS THAT IT WAS TOO MANY, YEAH, YEAH.
UH, HORIZONTALS, I WOULD THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, A SORT OF, OKAY.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT LIKE A, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, INFLUENCE THE DESIGN TOO MUCH, BUT IN THE, THE PLANTING ON THE GROUND LEVEL, WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL LOW LEVEL PLANTS.
LIKE WHAT ABOUT LIKE A STATEMENT TREE OR SOMETHING IN THAT SWATH OF LANDSCAPING? WOULD THAT I, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL DETRACT FROM THE, THE SIMPLICITY OF THE STRUCTURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD PUT THAT HIGHER TREE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE APPEARS TO BE AN ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE WHERE THE CAR IS.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE SOME TREES IN THIS, IN THIS, YEAH.
KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING TO EXPLORE WITH IT.
KNOW, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL NEW LEVEL.
I THINK THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING FOR ME ABOUT DESIGNS THAT ARE SIMPLIFIED.
THAT IT'S JUST A LITTLE TWEAK HERE, A LITTLE TWEAK THERE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PROPORTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE CHANGES MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING TO SORT OF EX THAT, THAT LANDING AREA, I, FOR ME, IT'D BE REALLY NICE IF THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF BRAIN OR SOMETHING THERE.
YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE HER IDEA OF, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, LANDSCAPE THAT IN, IN THAT AREA.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN, IN GENERAL, UH, I THINK THE SIMPLICITY, AS SHAYNA SAID, AND THEN WHEN YOU MIX IT WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING, UM, IN THE PLANS, IT, IT'S NICE TO ME.
IT, IT WAS MEANT TO BE A DIALOGUE OF LUSHNESS AND SIMPLICITY.
BUT I THINK A COMBINATION OF BOTH, IT DOESN'T OVERWHELM MORE.
MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE SIGHTING THAN, THAN LANDSCAPING.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD MESH AND A GOOD BALANCE.
I, I DO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE GAVE FEEDBACK LAST TIME AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU DID A GOOD JOB RESPONDING.
SO I'M, I AM IN SUPPORT OF, OF APPROVING, UM, I DON'T WANNA CUT ANYBODY OFF IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE CONVERSATION, BUT I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THEN I MAKE A MOTION
CAN I, CAN I MAKE A CLARIFICATION? JUST, IT, IT, IT INCLUDES MOVING, UH, APPROVE WITH MOVING THAT HORIZONTAL NO, NO CONDITIONS.
EXCEPT WE TALKED ABOUT THE WINDOW.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE WINDOW? SORRY? THE WINDOW MOVING THE WINDOW UP THAT, YEAH.
WITH THE CONDITION OF MOVING THE WINDOW UP SURE.
IN, IN THE FRONT BEDROOM OR HOWEVER YOU IDENTIFY IT.
TO MATCH THEN THAT WOULD BE TO MATCH THE SCORE, THE SCORE LINE, SO THAT ALL WINDOWS START AT THE SAME LEVEL.
HORIZON THE WINDOW HEAD HORIZONAL WINDOWS.
SO I MAKE A MOTION, EXCUSE ME, TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE HORIZONTAL RIBBON WINDOWS, THE DATUM LINE IS SHIFTED UP, UP TO ALIGN WITH THE OTHERS.
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TO, UH, DRB 23 0 9 6 0 7 0 4 80 FOURTH STREET, RA BAY TWO.THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA, ZB 23 DASH 9 67 0 4 80 FOURTH STREET, RA BAY TWO.
AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON SITE.
THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JULY 2ND MEETING.
SO THIS, THIS ITEM AT THE JULY 2ND MEETING, UM, THERE WERE, THE ITEM WAS PRESENTED.
THERE WERE SOME SUGGESTIONS MADE, AND THE ITEM WAS
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ULTIMATELY CONTINUED, UH, TO TODAY'S MEETING.THE, THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE THE PLANS IN TIME FOR, FOR US TO CONSIDER THEM FOR THIS MEETING.
UM, SO WE ARE, WE DID SUGGEST TO THEM THAT THEY MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.
THIS WILL BE NEW TO US AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT THE, UH, THAT THE BOARD PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK AND CONTINUE THE PLANS, UH, TO THE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 MEETING.
AND BEFORE WE START, START, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY DISCLOSURES? NOPE.
HAVE, UH, ALL MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM BEEN SWORN IN? SORRY? HAVE YOU ALL BEEN SWORN IN? YES.
I'LL SET THE CLOCK FOR 10 MINUTES.
UM, WELL, BASICALLY, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOU REMEMBER OF THE PROJECT.
UH, WE WERE HAVING, UM, THE, LIKE THE, THE LAYOUT AND THE FLOOR PLANS ARE THE SAME.
WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO IMPROVE IS THE COLORS USING THE FACADE SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, SUCH AN INDUSTRIAL LOOK.
SO WE, UH, CHANGED THE COLORS TO BE LIGHTER MORE IN, IN BAY OR SUN COLORS AND WHITE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE, THE MAIN CHANGE THAT WE DID FOR THIS ONE.
UM, NO, I DIDN'T ACCEPT IT GONNA, UM, WE, WE ALSO HAD A SCREENING IN FRONT OF THE STAIRS THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPACTING, UH, TOO MUCH.
SO WE CHANGE IT AND, AND WE HAVE MORE VISIBLE THE STAIRS AND THE WOOD.
LIKE WE HAVE A SAMPLE HERE IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, IT'S, IT'S LIGHTER THAN, THAN THE WOOD THAT WE PROPOSED BEFORE.
IT'S ALL WHITE, UH, IN THE, IN THE, UH, EXOSKELETON THAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
UM, THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT MORE BEACH FRIENDLY.
WHAT IS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US? I'M SORRY.
THAT WILL BE THE, THE, UH, LIKE, UM, THE MAIN WALL OF THE BUILDING.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN ACTUALLY SHOW HERE.
THERE WILL BE THIS, THIS, THIS WALLS HERE.
LIKE IN, SO IT'S HORIZONTAL THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S HORIZONTALLY, YEAH.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, AS WE REMOVE THAT, UH, SCREENING THAT WENT, UH, WAS COVERED IN THE ENTIRE STATE CASE.
UH, NOW WE HAVE A SCREEN, UH, ONLY IN THE ACCESS IN THE, IN THE VEGETABLE.
AND THE ONLY DARKER COLOR THAT IT'S BROWN, IT'S, UH, IN THE FRAMINGS AND IN THE ROOF OF, UH, OF THE ACCESS THE ONION.
IT'S A OVERHANG, UH, ON THE ENTRANCE.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE FACADE IS, IS THE SAME, ONLY WITH THE CHANGE OF COLORS TO MAKE IT LIGHTER.
I, UM, FOR UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T HERE IN JULY.
UM, WHEN YOU MAY HAVE PRESENTED THIS, CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE, WHAT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS AND WHERE IT FITS WITHIN THE NORMANDY AISLE AREA? THE OVERALL MAP, THE SURROUNDING IS, I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE THE IMAGE HERE.
I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE THAT, UM, CONTEXT HERE IN THE PRESENTATION.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE WITHIN THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY? ACROSS, BEHIND TO THE SIDES.
I DON'T THINK THAT CAN SUE ME.
I'LL JUST, NO, IT'S, IT IS AN R ONE DISTRICT.
IT CONSISTS OF PRIMARILY TWO, ONE TO TWO STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
UH, AND THERE ARE SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES MIXED WITHIN, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY ONE TO TWO STORY, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
YOU KNOW, I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT USUALLY WHEN, WHEN WE USUALLY, AT LEAST FOR ME, I LIKE TO LOOK AT, I LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT AND STUDY THE PRESENTATIONS SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, REALLY PRODUCTIVE, CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.
AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO DO THIS RIGHT ON THE SPOT.
UM, JUST SEEING, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO DIFFERENT WHAT THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE ARE SO DIFFERENT.
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IF, IF ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE IS GONNA COME OUTTA THIS.I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY, IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH THIS TO BEGIN WITH.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, JUST 'CAUSE I REMEMBER FROM THE PAST, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU LOST THAT, THAT LARGE TRELLIS ELEMENT AND SO YOU JUST, OKAY.
BASICALLY LIKE IT WAS VERY, UM, NOTICEABLE AND IT WAS HELPING A LOT WITH THE IN INDUSTRIAL LOOK THAT WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID.
THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED IT, LIKE, OKAY.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THE, THE NOW STAIRWAY AND I WASN'T HERE FOR JULY EITHER, SO, BUT, UM, IT DEFINITELY DOES SEEM LIKE AN IMPROVEMENT.
I GUESS JUST ON THE SPOT COMMENTS, THE STAIRWAY TO ME SEEMS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO LIKE, INTEGRATE MATERIALS INTO JUST WHAT'S LIKE A WHITE CONCRETE FACADE AS SHOWING LIKE, TO THE STREET.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF, IF WE'RE TAKING THIS BACK, IT LOOKS JUST A LITTLE HARSH AND DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT I DO LIKE THE MAIN STRUCTURE, THE LIVING STRUCTURE.
DO YOU HAVE A, A A, LIKE A, A FRONT VIEW OF A FRONT RENDERING? NOT FROM THE SIDE.
I THINK THAT MIGHT, 'CAUSE I ALSO AM WONDERING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STAIRWELL AND THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO TELL STRAIGHT TO THE FRONT.
UM, BUT STA FORM DIDN'T CHANGE, RIGHT? YOU JUST CHANGED THE, YOU JUST REMOVED THE TRELLIS.
IT WAS MORE, IT'S NOT THE ELEVATION.
I THINK YOU PASSED ONE THAT MAY HAVE YEAH.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, THE GAP BETWEEN THE STAIRCASE AND THE, AND THE APARTMENTS, IF THAT HELPS.
I, I THINK THAT, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, IS THERE AN IN BETWEEN? UH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE FEEDBACK YOU GUYS GOT WAS, IT WAS HEAVY IN, IN INDUSTRIAL AND MAYBE THAT WAS THE COLORS.
IT WAS EXPOSED CONCRETE AND THE SCALE OF THE SCREENING.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A, A SCALE OF SCREENING OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AT THOSE STAIRS THAT INTEGRATES WITH THE, WITH THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE BUILDING.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT MAYBE LOOKS LESS OF A STAIRCASE BECAUSE I MEAN, THE STAIRS HAVE TO BE, I THINK WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST TIME.
UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE PLAN OF THE STAIRS, RIGHT? NO.
WE JUST REMOVED THE, THE LAYOUT IS THE SAME.
AND SO THAT METAL THAT YOU HAVE AT THE GROUND FLOOR, THAT IS THE EXPANDED METAL AS WELL, OR IT'S IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE MORE, MORE SQUARE.
IT'S NOT THE, THE STANDARD ONE.
SO I MEAN, I, I MEAN I, I'M, I WASN'T OPPOSED TO THE DESIGN BEFORE.
I AGREED THAT IT WAS LESS MIAMI BEACH AND MORE, UM, OF A DIFFERENT, UM, PLACE.
BUT I THINK IF THE, NOW THAT IT'S WHITE, I DUNNO HOW YOU GUYS WOULD FEEL ABOUT INTEGRATING SOME OF THE SCREEN BACK TO THE STAIRS SO THAT MAYBE IT HAS A SOFTER TOUCH.
I, I I THINK THE FACT THAT THE STAIRS AREN'T ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING OR INTEGRATED AREN'T ATTACHED TO THE FRONT.
I THINK YOU DON'T, YOU DIDN'T NOTICE IT AS MUCH BEFORE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS VERY DISJOINT.
AND I, I IT'S JUST SORT OF LIKE, HUH, I TO MAKE, IT'S TOO OBVIOUS NOW THAT THE STAIRS ARE LIKE YEAH.
AND THEN THE FRONT OF THE STAIRS, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S THAT MATERIAL? IT'S JUST STUCCO.
IT DOESN'T SEEM AS IN A, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT THE TRELLIS WAS DOING IS IT WAS CRE, IT WAS UNIFYING IT.
BUT NOW, BUT I, I, I, YEAH, I ALSO FEEL LIKE PROBABLY PLAYING WITH THE SCREEN AND NOT TOO SOLID AND, AND IN, IN LIGHT COLOR.
I ALSO FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOUR, I YOUR IDEA IS NOT BEING EXPRESSED AS WELL TO US BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AS MANY VIEWS OF IT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, I, I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE HEAD ON.
AND MAYBE THIS, IF IT WAS SEEN STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT ON WOULD SEEM MORE INTEGRATED.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE ANGLES OF THE RENDERINGS AND THE DRAWINGS, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT IN AN ELEVATION.
SO, I MEAN, THIS IS GONNA BE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS TO BE CONTINUED ANYWAY.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU RESUBMIT IT OR WHEN YOU DO, IF YOU COULD ADD ADDITIONAL, SO WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S, WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN THIS STAIRWELL, WHICH IS A VERY PREDOMINANT ELEMENT YES.
IN THE DESIGN, UM, WITH THE REST OF IT, I WOULD SAY.
AND, AND IS THIS, DID THE SAME THING HAPPEN WITH YEAH.
THE NEXT PROJECT THE SAME THING.
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YEAH, AT LEAST JUST FOR ME, LIKE, I LIKE TO SIT WITH IT AND THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN TAKE SOME TIME TO REALLY STUDY IT.UM, IN, IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A CHAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UH, AFTER THE, THE MEETING HERE.
UM, AND THEY WERE, UH, REQUESTING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE, UM, OF THE OLD MIAMI.
AND THAT'S WHY, WHY WE TRY TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, AFTER THAT CONVERSATION THAT THEY WERE LIKE GOING TO THE, LIKE TRYING TO, TO MAKE IT MORE CLASSIC AND YEAH.
AND HAVING THAT INDUSTRIAL LOOK, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO MATCH IT IN THE OTHER ONE.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MIAMI COLORS, PUT IN A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR THERE.
UM, BUT IF, YEAH, I THINK ALSO ON THE, ON THE TRELLIS PIECE, OKAY, THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE STAIRS.
IT ALSO WAS SORT OF VERY RIGID, UM, AND HAD, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS THIN, RECTANGULAR FORM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE REST OF THE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IT'S FINE.
I THINK IT'S A NICE MOVE TO MOVE THE VERTICAL CIRCULATION AND ALLOW LIGHT IN BETWEEN THE LIVING SPACE AND THE STAIR.
BUT MAYBE WHEN YOU EXPLORE ADDING THE TRELLIS OR PARTS OF IT BACK WITH THE EXPANDED ALUMINUM, IF IT'S PAINTED WHITE, COULD IT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVE ITS OWN FORM, COULD IT SOMEHOW RESPOND TO THE FORM OF THE STAIR AND GO FROM ONE LANDING TO ANOTHER? MAYBE THERE'S BREAKS IN IT.
I MEAN, IF, IF WE CAN ASK FOR THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE AS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT WHERE YOU HAVE IMAGES WHERE MAYBE IT'S JUST DIFFERENT VIEWS OF YOUR CURRENT DESIGN.
'CAUSE I THINK THE ONE VIEW IS LIKE SUPER DISTORTED AND DYNAMIC AND HARD TO READ.
SO MAYBE YOU DON'T ADD IT BACK, BUT JUST DIFFERENT VIEWS AND THEN YOU SHOW US AN OPTION OF LIKE, BUT HERE'S, IF WE ADD THIS BACK AND HERE'S HOW WE WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING IT, AND WE CAN REVIEW THOSE, THOSE SORT OF LIKE OPTIONS.
IS THAT OKAY TO ASK FOR? I ALSO THINK LIKE WITH A BOLD STARE, THERE'S SO MANY POSSIBILITIES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST SORT OF KEEP EXPLORING THAT.
SO SHOULD WE OFFICIALLY CONTINUE THIS ONE? OKAY.
SO, AND OKAY, SO WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE? I SO MOVE SECOND.
THAT'S TO, UH, TO OCTOBER 1ST? YES.
WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY MR. SHELDON, UH, SECOND BY MS. ALDI.
UM, WE WILL NEED EVERYTHING BY, UM, FRIDAY THE 13TH, ACTUALLY SUNDAY, SO WE CAN START MONDAY.
UH, SO WE CAN START MONDAY IMMEDIATELY.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO GET OUR REPORTS OUT THAT WEEK TO THE, TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I WOULD ALSO, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE OUR AGENDA IS SO LONG TODAY, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE THE NEXT ONE WITHOUT MAYBE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME NEXT TIME TO REALLY GET COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEW, THE REVISION FOR DEN DEN BAY THREE.
UM, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA TAKE A QUICK LOOK NOW, OR I, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT IF WE WOULD DO IT ALL TOGETHER DURING THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU MADE SOME CHANGES SINCE JULY TO MAY THREE? PROCEDURALLY? I THINK WE HAVE TO CALL IN THAT CASE TO THE RECORD, HERE'S ONE OF THE OWNERS THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE, UM, MOVED LAST TIME BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF A QUORUM.
I MEAN, NOW WE'RE MOVING EVERYTHING BACK TO OCTOBER.
SO IT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU NO, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.
WE'RE THE INVESTORS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG, SO WE'RE TRYING TO, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT IT WAS YOUR TEAM THAT TURNED TO THE MATERIALS TOO LATE FOR US TO REVIEW.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE NEED THE TIME.
WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THE FEEDBACK RIGHT.
THAT YOUR DESIGN TEAM NEEDS THAT'S UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTIVE UNDERST AND HELPFUL WITHOUT HAVING A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
I MEAN, I SIT, I PERSONALLY, I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE, LIKE, I'LL SPEND AN HOUR LOOKING AT THESE PLANS AND REALLY, REALLY TRYING TO GET STUFF THAT I DO UNDERSTAND DO THAT BUTT.
THE PREVIOUS MEETING WE WERE READY AND THERE WAS IN QUORUM, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT HAPPENING.
THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY OF ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, BUT WE WEREN'T GONNA APPROVE AT THAT TIME ANYWAY.
YOU NEEDED TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.
BUT, BUT WE WERE GONNA GET THE RIGHT COMMENTS.
I TRUST ME WHEN I SAY I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE YOUR PROJECT TODAY, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MATERIAL IN FRONT OF US ON TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT.
AND SO I REALLY CAN'T APPROVE SOMETHING THAT ISN'T, HASN'T BEEN HAD THE PROPER TIME TO REVIEW.
AND YOU HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE LOOK AT IT, WHETHER WE LOOK AT IT TODAY OR WHETHER WE LOOK AT IT TOMORROW.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, WHETHER WE LOOK AT IT NOW OR WHETHER WE LOOK AT IT IN A MONTH, IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SAME COMMENTS.
IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE SAME PROCESS.
THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD LAST TIME STILL STAND.
AND IF THEY'VE MADE THOSE COMMENT, IF THEY'VE MADE THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE REQUESTED, THEN IT'LL BE MOVED FORWARD.
AGAIN, THIS IS BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION WAS
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DELIVERED A LITTLE BIT LATE.I WOULD LOVE, I KNOW ALL OF US WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HELP YOU AND TO MOVE IT ON SO THAT IT WOULDN'T COME BACK.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY IS VERY BUSY AND WE WANNA PASS THESE, BUT WE DO NEED SOME TIME TO REVIEW.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ON OUR DOCKET THAT ARE WAITING TO BE HEARD THAT DID TURN IN THEIR MATERIALS ON TIME WHERE WE DID HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK TO THEM.
AND LET ME JUST ASK YOU THIS, DID YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE DANOR BAY THREE SINCE THE JULY MEETING YES.
AS YOU DID WITH DANOR BAY TWO? YES.
BECAUSE IT, IT WAS ALSO INDUSTRIAL LOOK AND WE CHANGED IT ACTUALLY.
WE ADDED, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND THEN AT THE END OF WHAT WE DID, WE LOST QUORUM, BUT THEN THEY STILL STAYED AFTER AND WE GAVE THEM FEEDBACK, WHICH WAS GREAT.
AND THEN NOW THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN MISSED AND YOU'RE ASKING US TO REVIEW NOW.
WHEREAS EVERYBODY ELSE FOLLOWED THE DEADLINE AND HAD THEIR MATERIALS IN.
IT'S, IT'S, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE KEEP MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR YOU AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MISSED THE DEADLINE.
THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE A QUICK FEEDBACK AS WE DID LAST TIME.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, US SAYING, LET ME ASK, LET ME ASK THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S ENTIRE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS, BUT WE GAVE SOME FEEDBACK BASED ON SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE ON WHAT WAS ON THE CHANGES MADE ON THE, ON THE DBO THREE, UH, ON DBO TWO.
UM, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST QUICKLY LOOK AT THIS DBO THREE AND SEE WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT THEY CAN TAKE BACK WITH THEM AND BRING FORWARD TO THE OCTOBER MEETING? I MEAN, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE OTHER BUILDING AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE VERY CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS.
WE WERE ALL A LITTLE CONFUSED BY IT.
ON THE CONTRARY, I THINK YOU DID, YOU JUST BROUGHT SOME COMMENTS THAT WE COULD TAKE BACK TO THE BOARD.
I MEAN, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE, EVERY OTHER APPLICANT HAS TO FOLLOW.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE ON AND WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK, WE WILL GIVE IT ALL OF OUR ATTENTION.
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE JUST GAVE, THE PROJECT HAD TO BE CONTINUED.
AND WHAT I THINK IS THAT IF THE SAME THING IS GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN, SO WHY SHOULD WE USE OUR TIME NOW WHEN MANY OTHER PEOPLE, WELL, THE SAME WAY YOU USED MY TIME WHEN WE CAME ON TIME AND THERE WAS NO CRIME BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN LEFT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
NONE OF US CAN CONTROL THAT, THAT I NEED.
AND I'M SURE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY, HE APOLOGIZED AS IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL.
AT THIS POINT, WE'VE SPENT MORE TIME THAN I WANTED TO TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WE'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE.
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAS, CAN CALL A, UH, A, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
WE, WE WOULD NEED, WE NEED TO CALL THE ITEM BEFORE WE MAKE, UH, THE VOTE TO CONTINUE.
[10. DRB23-0961, 2125 BAY DRIVE – Denbora Bay III]
TWENTY THREE OH NINE SIXTY ONE.2125 BAY DRIVE, DEBORA BAY THREE.
I'LL JUST READ INTO THE RECORD.
UM, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SITE.
NO ONE'S CALLED IN OR ANYTHING.
I DON'T MEAN TO, I I JUST, I WASN'T HERE IN JULY.
SO WHATEVER COMMENTS WERE MADE TO ALL OF YOU IN JULY, IF YOU'VE MADE SOME OF THE CHANGES TO RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS, IF WE CAN TAKE FIVE MINUTES QUICKLY TO JUST SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER POSSIBLE COMMENTS THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO YOU THAT YOU CAN BRING BACK IN OCTOBER AS WE DID WITH DEBORA TOO.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE STAIRCASE OR THE STAIRWELLS, THEN WE DO.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE THOUGHTS ON THE REST OF THE BOARD ON THIS.
THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT, UM, FOR IT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK.
THE, THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE LIKE LAST TIME AS IT CHANGED TO HAVE A, A FEEDBACK AND BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORS TOO, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE, WE WERE ADDRESSING THAT.
UH, SO AT THIS POINT, I GUESS, DO WE, WHAT? WELL WE STILL WOULD HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING AND GO THROUGH IT THE SAME AS WE DID WITH THE PRIOR CASE, RIGHT? LIOS GONNA HAVE TO HIS PRESENTATION.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK THE DISCLOSURE QUESTION AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR 10 MINUTES OR SHORTER TIME IF THE CHAIR WANTS IT SHORTER.
WE, WHAT IS THE, DOES THE BOARD WANT, DO I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED AND WE SHOULD REALLY TREAT IT WITH A LOT OF BOARD? WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE PRIORITY.
I'M SORRY, WHAT? WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
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AND A SECOND.UM, OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO NEW APPLICATIONS.
I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE BEFORE LUNCH.
MM-HMM?
[11. DRB23-0995, 2334 ALTON ROAD]
ALTON ROAD.SO THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS DRB 23 DASH 0 9 9 5 23 34.
ALTON ROAD AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING TWO-STORY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS.
SO THIS IS, UH, AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO BUILD AN ADDITION TO THE, TO THE HOME.
UM, BECAUSE THE EXTENT OF THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE NEW ADDITION, UM, EXCEEDS 60 FEET, UM, THEY WOULD REQUIRE BE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, AN OPEN SPACE, UH, OF, UH, OF REGULAR SHAPE, OF A MINIMUM DEPTH OF EIGHT, EIGHT FEET, EQUIVALENT TO 1% OF THE, OF THE LOT AREA.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS PROVIDING, UH, AN OPEN COURTYARD, HOWEVER, IT'S ONLY FIVE FEET DEEP.
IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
AS A RESULT, THEY'RE SEEKING A WAIVER OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, THEY'RE HERE BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY.
UM, THE, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING IS COMPLYING WITH THE INTENT OF THAT REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS FOR THERE TO BE MOVEMENT IN THE FACADE.
UM, GIVEN THAT THEY, UM, UM, THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE REQUIREMENT, UH, STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER.
UM, THE WAIVER IS THEY ARE STILL BREAKING UP THAT DESIGN, BREAKING UP THAT FACADE, UM, AND, AND COMPLYING WITH THAT INTENT.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUB SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS AND OR DISCLOSURES AT THIS TIME? NO.
HAS EVERY MEMBER OF YOUR TEAM BEEN SWORN IN THIS MORNING? I DON'T THINK YOU WERE SWORN.
I, I I WAS PARTIALLY SWEARING.
SO IF YOU WANNA DO IT, GO AHEAD.
THEN FOR YOUR BENEFIT, IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
MAY LOWER YOUR HAND AND I'LL, I'LL SET THE CLOCK AT 10 MINUTES.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT WITH OFFICES AT 26 40 SOUTH BISHOP DRIVE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
AND I, LET ME JUST BRIEFLY TAKE YOU THROUGH ALL THE PAGES SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT.
'CAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING HOUSE.
AND, AND THE REASON THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE A FEET IS THAT THE HOUSE, IT, IT'S ALREADY SEVEN, UH, 70, 70 FEET LONG PLUS THE PORCH PLUS THE BALCONY.
A FIVE IS EXISTING GROUND FLOOR.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE LENGTH OF THE HOUSE IS ALREADY 70 FEET, PLUS THE LENGTH OF THE PORCH IS 11.
THAT'S THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH IS ALSO, UM, MORE THAN, UM, THAN 70 FEET.
PLUS THE BALCONY, WHICH IS 11, GO TO THE NEXT ELEVATION.
THAT'S THE ROOF THAT'S EXISTING.
THAT'S THE EXISTING ELEVATION.
OH, THAT'S THE EXISTING, UM, YOU CAN SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME IN THE MICROPHONE? NO.
SO GO, GO, GO TO THE NEXT ONE,
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, UH, EXISTING NORTH AND EXISTING WEST.
AND THE MATERIALS OF THE EXISTING HOUSE GO.
AND THESE ARE THE EXISTING PICTURES OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OPEN PORCH AND THE BALCONY ABOVE.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THE PROPOSED.
THAT'S THE PROPOSED, UM, NO, THAT'S THE SECOND FLOOR.
OH, PROPOSED GROUND FLOOR AND THE STAIRS GOING UP TO THE GUEST.
UM, GUEST BEDROOM BEING PROPOSED ON THE SECOND FLOOR, PUT TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
RIGHT BELOW THE STAIR WILL BE THE ACTUAL OPEN SPACE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXISTING HOUSE.
THERE'S NO THERE, EVEN IF I WERE TO PROPOSE IT ON THE, ON THE ADDITION, I'M ALREADY PAST THE 70 FEET.
SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THE, THE VARIANCE.
THAT'S THE ROOF, THAT'S THE EXISTING, THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.
THE SAME THING THAT PROPOSED NORTH AND PROPOSED WEST.
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THE PROPOSED SOUTH ELEVATION.AND THE, THE PICTURE GO TO THE FOURTH TO THIS ONE.
IT'S NOT IN THE, THEY DIDN'T PUT 18 IN THE PRESENTATION.
LET ME CHECK IF IS IN ANOTHER.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE BOTH PDFS? DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR, IN YOUR END 18? YEAH.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN SCALE.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE SORT OF IN A POSITION THAT WE, WE, THIS HOUSE WAS PROBABLY BUILT PRIOR TO THIS CONDITION BEING, UH, YEAH, YEAH.
AND, AND THAT THE RECTANGULAR BOX, THAT'S WHAT EXCEEDS THE COLOR.
THAT THAT SMALL SECTION, THAT THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE.
THE, WE'RE PROVIDING MORE THAN THE 1%, BUT WE JUST CAN'T DO THE EIGHT FEET.
WE CAN PROVIDE WITH THE 1%, BUT WE TO DO THE EIGHT FEET, YOU HAVE TO DESTROY, YOU KNOW, THEN NOW YOU'RE DEMOLISHING A BIG PORTION OF THE HOUSE.
AND, AND I THINK THAT THE FACADE IS NOT A CRITICAL FACADE.
I MEAN, I'VE DEALT WITH THIS IN, IN BIGGER PROJECTS WHERE THERE IS, IT'S A REALLY BIG HOUSE, AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR PURPOSE OF BREAKING UP THE, THE VOLUME.
BUT THIS IS A SMALL HOUSE AND IT'S EXISTING.
AND, AND THE, OH, YOU GOT EIGHT 2.2, WHICH SHOWS YOU IN THE BLUE AREA.
THEY OPEN THE OPEN, THE OPEN AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND SO WHAT IS THE, HOW MUCH LONGER IS THE STRUCTURE GONNA BE WITH THIS ADDITION? I, I, I KNOW THE RULE IS IT CAN'T BE LONGER THAN 60 FEET.
HOW LONG? OH, WOULD IT NOW BE IT? WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE, OF THE, OF THE THING IS EXISTING.
THE SECOND FLOOR WILL BE 81 FEET.
THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING IS 81 FEET RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING THE SAME? WE'RE JUST BASICALLY CONVERTING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE COVERED TERRACE BELOW BECOMES AN OFFICE AND THE BALCONY ABOVE BECOMES A BEDROOM.
SO IN THE OTHER DRAWING THAT YOU HAD THAT WITH THE, I, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS HOW MUCH BEYOND IN THAT RECTANGLE THAT YOU, THAT YOU SHOWED US OF THIS IS WHAT IS EXCEEDING, HOW, HOW IS IT THREE FEET MORE? HOW, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE HOUSE IS ALREADY 80 FEET AND YOU'RE ADDING TO IT? NO, WE'RE NOT ADDING TO IT.
WE'RE JUST, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING THE WALL SOLID WHERE IT USED TO BE EXACTLY.
SO YOU ARE, YOU'RE PUTTING, YOU'RE MAKING MORE OF A SOLID WALL.
SO YOU'RE ADDING TO THAT, BUT YOU'RE USING THE EXISTING FOUNDATIONS.
WE'RE USING THE EXISTING FOUNDATION.
WE'RE NOT ADDING NEW FOUNDATION.
AND SO, AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE HOUSE IS ALREADY LONGER THAN THE WAVE LONGER THAN IT SHOULD BE WITH YEAH.
LONGER THAN IT SHOULD BE WITHOUT PROVIDING THE, THE EIGHT FOOT OPEN SPACE.
MM-HMM,
UM, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE CODE REQUIRES THREE FEET AND, AND THE DRB HAS THE ABILITY TO WAVE THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, SO THEY'RE JUST GOING FIVE FEET BEYOND WHERE THEY SH NO, NO, NO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SHORT THREE FEET FOR THEIR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
I DO WANNA SAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE A WAY BETTER JOB WITH DIAGRAMS BECAUSE YEAH, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SO HERE, THAT PURPLE IS WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING US, RIGHT? THAT'S AN EXISTING RELIEF AREA.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT WE'RE GETTING.
AND IT'S ONLY FIVE FEET DEEP INSTEAD OF EIGHT FEET DEEP.
OH, SO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE ISN'T CHANGING AND BECAUSE IT EXISTED BEFORE THIS CODE.
AND SO THEY'RE SORT OF, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA USE THAT AREA TO MEET THE CODE, BUT WE CAN'T MEET THE CURRENT CODE WITH THE, WITH THIS DEPTH.
BUT YEAH, I THINK VERY SIMPLE DIAGRAM JUST IN THE FUTURE OF LIKE, HERE'S THE PLAN.
AND I KNOW YOU HAD THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED PLANS, BUT THEY'RE ALL THE SAME LINE WEIGHT.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE, IT'S A LITTLE
YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU ARE CERTAINLY RIGHT.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, EXISTING, THE PROPOSED AND, AND IN EVERY OTHER BOARD, THAT'S THE WAY THEY LIKE TO SEE IT.
'CAUSE THAT WAY IT MAKES IT NICE AND CLEAR.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I TRY TO DO MY BEST,
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YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH ONE AND THE OTHER ONE.BUT, BUT, BUT IT IS, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE OPEN AREA THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
AND THEY'RE WITHIN THE SQUARE FOOTAGES AND LIKE, THERE'S NO VARIANCES.
SO I MEAN, I, I PROPOSE TO APPROVE THE, THE WAIVER OR THE PROPOSAL SECOND.
IF YOU ADDED A SECOND, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO HELP YOU MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
AND IF YOU GO TO WHAT ELEVATION? YEAH, THE PROPOSED, AT LEAST IN THE PLANS I'M LOOKING AT, IT'S A 15 OR PAGE SIX.
NO, BECAUSE OF THE 14, IT'S OH, WE'RE NOT CONTROLLING IT FROM HERE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO ADD A WINDOW, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A LITTLE BIT UNDERNEATH THE STAIRS, SO THAT WOULD ALSO, I THINK, HELP YOU MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT ALL SUCH A SOLID WALL.
WELL, I, I THINK THAT, THAT THERE'S A DOOR THERE THAT'S, THERE IS NOT REALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPLETELY SOLID.
AND WE DID PUT A WINDOW ON THE BOTTOM OF IT.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOU, IF, IF, IF, IF THE ISSUE, LET SEE, LEMME SEE SOMETHING.
GO TO THE FLOOR PLAN, TO THE GROUND FLOOR.
I THINK THERE'S A CLOSET THERE ON THE INTERIOR.
THERE IS AN, AN OFFICE AND A CLOSET DOOR TO SOMETHING.
THERE IS, THERE IS A, IT'S A CLOSET.
UM, BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT, THAT WE SHOULD PUT A WINDOW IN, I DON'T MIND PUTTING A WINDOW INSIDE OF A CLOSET.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE, IF THAT'S THE CONDITION TO APPROVE IT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SORRY, I INTERRUPTED THE MOTION.
YEAH, WE, SEAN, WE JUST SKIPPED A FEW THINGS 'CAUSE PRESENTATION'S CLOSED, BUT WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC.
WE HAVE KIND OF MORPHED A LOT OF STUFF INTO ONE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA ADD TO YOUR PRESENTATION? NO, NO, THAT'S IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS? OH, YES.
I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING THAT.
UM, YEAH, JUST, UM, UH, I MEAN I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT UM, IT'S REALLY, UM, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE A, A WINDOW IN THE CLOSET.
IT MAKES IT INSECURE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SENSE OF LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A OPENING INTO IT.
UM, AND ALSO THAT PARTICULAR PART LOOKS OUT INTO ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS LIKE A COVERED GARAGE FOR THE NEIGHBOR.
IT'S JUST LIKE A STORAGE THING HE HAS OUT THERE.
UM, I'D PREFER IT IF YOU COULD APPROVE IT WITHOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A A, AN IMPORTANT THING.
WELL, AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS THE, THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS THAT THE, THE PERSON NEXT DOOR IS NOT LOOKING ONTO A SOLID WALL, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S SOLID FROM THEIR END, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING ANYWAY.
THE GUY'S HOUSE IS WEIGHT AT THE FRONT.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, PUBLIC.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE DISCUSSED.
SORRY FOR THE, WE JUMPED THE GUN.
I THINK THERE'S A PENDING MOTION IN A SECOND.
WE HAVE A SESSION IN A SECOND.
UM, I WONDER IF WE HAVE TIME FOR ANOTHER ONE? YES.
IT SHOULD BE HERE ANY, SO WE, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE, WE CAN.
[12. DRB24-1002, 1801 PURDY AVENUE]
ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 1 0 0 2 18 0 1 PURDY AVENUE, AN APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF AN EXISTING FIXED STOREFRONT WITH A NEW OPERABLE STOREFRONT SYSTEM.OKAY, SO LET ME JUST FOR, FOR A BACKGROUND STATE THAT THIS, THIS, UH, ITEM IS HERE BECAUSE THE CODE REQUIRES, UM, THAT IF A, IF A COMMERCIAL USE IS PROPOSING OPERABLE WINDOWS AND IT'S LOCATED WITHIN 300 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UM, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY THE DRB.
UM, SO THE, THIS APPLICANT, UM, HAD RECEIVED A PERMIT TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS, UH, BACK IN 2022.
THE WINDOWS WERE REPLACED AND THEY WERE REPLACED, UH, INADVERTENTLY WITH OPERABLE WINDOWS
[02:45:01]
ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT.UM, SO THEY HAVE COME IN FOR, UH, AN AFTER THE FACT APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE OPERABLE WINDOWS PRESENTATION.
UM, THE, UH, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S IT.
UH, THESE ARE, THESE ARE WINDOWS THAT CAN OPEN, THEY CAN ALLOW, THEY WOULD ALLOW THEORETICALLY MUSIC TO ESCAPE IF THEY'RE PLAYING ANY BACK.
BUT, BUT THIS AREA ONLY ALLOWS FOR BACKGROUND MUSIC, UM, WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY OTHER SERVICE TO HAPPEN BETWEEN THE WINDOWS RO AND THE YES.
THE RESIDENTIAL AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE, UH, UH, CONDOMINIUM ACROSS THE STREET? CORRECT.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE SUNSET HARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ON, UH, ON PURDY AVENUE.
AND IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, ARMED THREE DISTRICT MM-HMM,
UM, THE, THE WINDOWS THAT WERE, THAT WERE IN PLACE ARE, ARE FITTING FOR THE STRUCTURE.
THEY, THEY DON'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN A FIXED WINDOW.
UM, AND STAFF HAS NO, UH, IS NOT OPPOSED TO THEM.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY ARE PROFFERING TO CLOSE THE WINDOWS NO LATER THAN 10:00 PM EACH NIGHT.
AND STAFF HAS INCORPORATED A CONDITION IN THE DRAFT ORDER, UH, INDICATING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE CLOSED BY 10:00 PM EVERY NIGHT.
UM, SO WITH THAT STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND BEFORE WE BEGIN, ANY EX PARTY, UH, DISCLOSURES? NOPE.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, SOUTH PISCA BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
SO WITH REGARD TO THE PROJECT TEAM, IT'S PURDY AVENUE.
LLLP IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
HE'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
THE TENANT IS THE MOST FAMOUS TENANT, SUNSET HARBOR SARDINIA RESTAURANT, WHICH WE'VE ALL GONE TO OFF AND ON SINCE 2006.
AND I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY COLLEAGUE, UH, MICHAEL GIANOPOULOS.
SO AGAIN, UH, SARDINIA HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS TYPICALLY COME AND GO IN FIVE YEAR CYCLES, BUT THEY'VE MANAGED TO HANG ON SINCE 2006.
THEY'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN A SPECIAL AWARD, UH, IN 2024.
SO WITH REGARD TO LOCATION, IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF PURDY AVENUE.
THE ZONING IS CD TWO JUST NORTH OF 18TH STREET, AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUNSET HARBOR TOWERS, UH, THE SOUTH AND NORTH TOWER.
UM, THIS IS A PLANNED VIEW SITE PLAN.
LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BUT ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS PURDY AVENUE, NOTING THAT THOSE WINDOWS WILL BE OPERABLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON 18TH STREET.
THAT LABEL INDICATES, OF COURSE, THAT THOSE WINDOWS WILL NOT, WHILE THEY'RE NEW, THEY'RE GONNA BE NON OPERABLE.
WE ALSO TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THE FRONT OF THE RESTAURANT, THE LEFT HAND SIDE AS IT WAS BEFORE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, AS IT IS NOW.
THIS IS THE BEFORE ON THE LEFT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DIFFERENCE IS IMPERCEPTIBLE ON THE RIGHT IS AS IT IS NOW.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN FRONT OF THE SUNSET HARBOR, UH, FROM THE PARK, BASICALLY LOOKING EASTWARD.
BEFORE AND AFTER KIND OF, UH, THERE'S THIS STRANGE THING THAT THEY'VE KIND OF PUSHED AND MADE MORE STREAMLINED.
THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THEY WORK.
UM, THEY'LL JUST, FROM THE MIDDLE, THEY'LL BE PUSHED IN EITHER DIRECTION AND JUST KIND OF LINE UP BEHIND THE LAST WINDOW ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, AND AS ROGELIO SAID, WE'D LIKE INTEGRATED INTO THIS ORDER A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT SAID THEY HAVE TO SHUT AT 10:00 PM EVERY NIGHT.
WE MET WITH THE GUARDIANS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE MARILYN AND SARAH.
THEY COME OUT FOR ALL THESE HEARINGS AND WE SAT DOWN WITH 'EM, SINO, WE EXPLAINED IT TO 'EM.
WE OPENED THE WINDOWS AND THEY SAID THE ONLY THING THEY WANTED IN RETURN WAS THAT THEY SHUT AT 10:00 PM EVERY NIGHT.
AND WE OF COURSE SAID THAT'S FINE.
AND THAT'S THE VOLUNTARY CONDITION.
AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU.
I HOPE I'M, I GOT DONE BEFORE YOUR LUNCH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? WE HAVE MARILYN LIC ONLINE.
I'M GONNA NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
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I DO.I'M GONNA SET THE CLOCK AT TWO MINUTES.
UH, UH, SARAH AND I HAVE MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE HAVE NO ISSUE WHATSOEVER WITH THE WINDOWS.
THEY PREFER TO CLOSE THEM AT 10:00 PM SO IF THERE'S ANY NORMAL NOISE COMING OUT OF THE RESTAURANT, WE WILL NOT HEAR IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING, UM, OPERATOR FROM DAY ONE.
I WAS INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, OPENING OF, OF SARDINIA WHEN THEY WERE PLANNING TO OPEN THE RESTAURANT AND THE WINDOWS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO FOR SO MANY YEARS THEY HAVE OPERATED BEAUTIFULLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD, UM, THING THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND WE HAVE NO ISSUE OR OPPOSITION TO THESE WINDOWS.
I'M NOW GONNA CLO ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE? NO.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, APPROVING THIS.
I, I THINK THE WINDOWS ARE ONLY GONNA BE OPEN SOME PORTIONS SOME MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OKAY WITH THE WINDOW CLOSING AT 10:00 AM AT 10:00 PM UM, I'M SURE THAT IF THEY WANNA CHANGE THAT THEY'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
AND I'M SURE THAT ARRANGEMENTS WILL BE MADE.
SO WHY IS IT BEING, EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF THE POST APPROVAL? WHAT'S THAT? WHY ARE WE REVIEWING IT NOW THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED? IT WAS A MISTAKE BY THE WINDOW INSTALLER.
THEY JUST, I KIND OF WANT US TO GO ON RECORD TO BE LIKE, IT WASN'T A MISTAKE.
SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE OPERABLE
WELL, IT ALSO SPEAKS TO HERE'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND THEY MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, THEY RESOLVED THE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THAT AS A WAY TO PREVENT THE OPPOSITE FROM HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENS TO BE A GOOD, A SUCCESS STORY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PROCEDURE.
UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY SECOND BY MR. SHELDON.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE, AYE.
THE MISTAKE WAS NOT COMING HERE FIRST.
AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, WHAT THE HECK? THE PROOF.
BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR RESOLVING THE MESS.
UM, YEAH, I THINK, SHOULD WE BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW? THE NEXT ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, OR, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK LUNCH HAS ARRIVED YET.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO? YES, WE DO.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY TOO, THE, THE NEXT ONE OR THE ONE AFTER THE LINCOLN ROAD, THE SIGNAGE, THAT'S ALSO NOT GONNA TAKE VERY LONG.
MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT ONE AND GET IT OVER WITH, AND THEN TAKE OUR LUNCH BREAK AND COME BACK AND THEN TALK ABOUT THIS OTHER.
GETTING IT OVER WITH IS SOMETHING I SUPPORT WHOLEHEARTED IN THAT MONEY.
[14. DRB24-1029, 1634 ALTON ROAD]
23 1 0 2 9 1200 LINCOLN ROAD, AND 1628 DASH 1634 ALTON ROAD.OKAY, FOR THE RECORD, UM, THE NEXT ITEM, THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 29, 1200 LINCOLN ROAD, AND 16 28 16 34 ALTON ROAD.
AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL, AND RELATED VARIANCES FOR A HANGING SIGN TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SIGNAGE AREA FOR A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FIVE STORY COMMERCIAL AND HOTEL BUILDING.
OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER.
UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A HANGING SIGN, UM, AND THE CODE HAS SOME VERY STRICT PROVISIONS FOR HANGING SIGNS OF WHICH THEY'RE SEEKING VARIANCES.
AND THIS, UH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE, IS A VARIANCE TO EXCEED BY
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5.82 SQUARE FEET, THE MAXIMUM SIDE AREA PER SIDE OF THREE FEET FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A HANGING SIGN.UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE TEXT HEIGHT OF SIX INCHES.
UH, SO THE, THE M IS OBVIOUSLY VERY LARGE, EXCEEDS SIX INCHES.
UM, SO THEY SAY THEY NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT, AND THEN THEY ARE SEEKING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE INTERNAL SIGN ILLUMINATION, UM, WHICH THE CODE PROHIBITS, UH, ILLUMINATION OF HANGING SIGNS.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY OTHER MAJOR SIGNAGE FOR THE CITIZEN M HOTEL.
SO THIS WILL BE THE PREDOMINANT SIGNAGE FOR THE CITIZEN M HOTEL.
UM, AND SO, UM, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THEIR BRANDING, WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR IDENTITY.
AND SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO, TO THE VARIANCE.
UM, AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE.
UM, AND, AND THE DESIGN OF THE, OF THE SIGN.
UM, STAFF WOULD NOTE, UH, THAT WE, WE'VE SINCE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THE SIGN HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED.
UM, WE FOUND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF IT, SO WE WILL BE, UH, INVOICING FOR AN AFTER THE FACT, UH, VARIANCE, WHICH IS THREE TIMES THE FEES BEFORE AN ORDER IS RECORDED.
SO JUST NOTING THAT, UM, I KNOW MS. MARS GONNA LOVE THAT ONE TOO.
UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED VARIANCE.
AND BEFORE WE BEGIN ANY EX PARTY, UH, DISCLOSURES? NOPE.
UM, STEVE, I DO NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND I'LL SET IT AT 10 MINUTES.
GRAHAM PENN BUR VERDEL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAPS 200 SOUTH BISKIN BOULEVARD.
IF YOU COULD, TOOK MY SLIDES UP, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH IT QUICKLY, BUT JUST TO, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT THIS, AS LIO NOTED, THIS SIGN WE'RE REQUESTING TODAY IS THE ONLY GROUND LEVEL SIGN THAT THIS USE HAS.
THE SIGN CODE ALLOWS PROJECTING SIGNS, WALL SIGNS, UH, OF LARGER, SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN WHAT HANGING SIGNS ARE PERMITTED, SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS A HANGING SIGN AND WE CAN ILLUMINATE IT, AND WE'RE LIMITED IN, IN SIZE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD TO BRING THIS APPLICATION.
SO IF YOU GO PAST THE PROPERTY, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A WALL SIGN, THERE'S NO PROJECTING SIGN, ET CETERA.
AND, AND THIS, THIS SERVES, AS YOU'LL SEE, HOPEFULLY IN THIS PRESENTATION, A VERY IMPORTANT WAY FINDING FUNCTION FOR THE USE, GIVEN HOW TUCKED AWAY IT IS.
SO REALLY, THIS IS JUST AS A REALLY SERVING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT IT'S THERE.
IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT, LOOK AT IT.
SO, 12, 12 LINCOLN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LINCOLN ROAD AND ALTON.
PHASE TWO IS A CITIZENM, WHICH IS NOW OPEN.
IT IS ACTUALLY A VERY BEAUTIFUL SPACE.
THIS IS WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE LOOKING, UH, SOUTHWEST FROM LINCOLN.
THE, THE FRONT ALONG ALTON IS ALL COMMERCIAL STOREFRONTS.
AND THEN VAST MAJORITY OF THE, OF THE LINCOLN ROAD FRONTAGE IS, IS COMMERCIAL STOREFRONTS THAT ARE NOT THE HOTEL.
THE HOTEL IS THE UPPER LEVELS, AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND THE ENTRANCE IS FAR ON THE WESTERN SIDE, BASICALLY WHERE THAT CHERRY PICKER IS, UH, ON THE BUILDING.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUILT.
THIS IS THE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU MAY REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE PROJECT HAD THIS STAIRWELL THAT CONNECTS PHASES ONE AND TWO, THAT IS NOW COMPLETE TO THE LEFT THERE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALTON THERE, THE STU THERE'S, THERE'S COMMERCIAL SPACES ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE.
AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE, OF THE BUILDING LOOKING NORTH ALONG ALTON.
THAT'S THE REDESIGNED, UH, BUS STOP THAT WE'VE DONE WITH FDOT AND THE CITY.
THIS IS THE VIEW ALONG LINCOLN.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE IKE, UH, KIOSKS.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S BASICALLY GOING RIGHT IN THE FOREGROUND THERE.
IF YOU
SO AT THE HARD CORNER FROM, FROM ALTON, YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT RUN.
AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO PORTION OF THAT, UH, THE HOTEL THAT ACTUALLY PEAKS OUT BEYOND THE STOREFRONTS.
THIS IS WHAT THE GROUND FLOOR PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE LINCOLN ROAD FRONTAGE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, AS YOU GO ON FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, IT'S ALL THOSE, UH, COMMERCIAL STOREFRONTS THAT ARE GONNA BE FILLED WITH OTHER TENANTS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE STEPS UP TO THE HOTEL, UH, WHICH IS SET BACK.
SO YOU HAVE THE STEPS, AND THEN YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRANCE.
SO IT'S ABOUT 135 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE, OF LINCOLN OF, OF THE INTERSECTION TO THE HOTEL DOOR.
AND THAT, OF COURSE, LEAVES US WITH A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE COMING BACK HOME AT NIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY, WHERE THE HOTEL IS, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO CHECK IN, PEOPLE DROPPING THEIR FRIENDS OFF OR PICKING THEIR FRIENDS UP, UBERS, ET CETERA.
SO WE, SO WHAT WE WANTED IS A VERY SUBTLE SIGN, A HANGING SIGN LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
SO THIS IS WHERE THAT SIGN IS.
UH, AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE PLANE.
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SO IT'S A VERY SMALL 30 INCH SQUARE SIGN ILLUMINATED SIGN THAT'S HANGING FROM THE, FROM THE UPPER ELEMENT.THERE IT IS AGAIN, IN, IN AN ELEVATION, PUSHED BACK.
AND I'M, I'M, MY LITTLE RED THING IS THICKER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS, BUT IT'S PUSHED BACK OFF OF THE FRONT.
THE OUTER RIM OF THE, OF THE ENCLOSURE IS OVER 30 INCHES.
BUT THE SIGN, AND AS LIO NOTED, WE HAVE TO REQUEST RELIEF FROM THE, THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE, UH, THE LETTERING BECAUSE THE M IS BIGGER THAN SIX INCHES HERE.
SO THIS REALLY BRINGS IT HOME.
YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THAT STOREFRONT SYSTEM IS BASICALLY WAY BEYOND WHERE THE SIGN WILL BE.
SO WE'RE RIGHT UP AT WHERE THE STAIRS ARE.
UH, WE HAVE FOLKS ONLINE, I THINK LUIS CASTILLO, AT LEAST THE PROJECT MANAGER'S AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT AS I NOTED, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS SIGN IS FOR WAYFINDING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND IF WE ARE IT, THE ULTIMATE SIGN PROGRAM FOR THE GROUND LEVEL HERE IS WAY BELOW WHAT WE COULD GET IF THIS WAS PROJECTING OR IF IT WAS A WALL SIGNS OR IF WE PUT IT BEHIND THE GLASS.
SO IT REALLY IS NOT DESIGNED TO OVERWHELM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY INVISIBLE FROM THE STREET UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
OUR FOLKS ONLINE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL, AND WE'D ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? NO ONE HAS THEIR HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, I CONCUR WITH STAFF'S ANALYSIS THAT THE REGULATIONS PRESENT A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AS THEY PREVENT PEDESTRIAN WAY FINDING FROM LINCOLN ROAD AND WOULD NOTE A STAFF NOTES THAT THE PROPOSED SIGN AND LOCATION, ALTHOUGH IT'S IT'S AN ACTUAL SIGN AND LOCATION NOW, UM, ARE PROPORTIONAL TO THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING AND WILL NOT CREATE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND SO, UM, I, UM, SUPPORT THE, THE GRANT OF THIS VARIANT AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO DO SO AS WELL.
SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
AND LUNCH IS STILL NOT HERE, HUH?
SO SHOULD WE CONTINUE? DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK OR SHOULD WE CONTINUE? WHAT'S THE GENERAL FEEL HERE? LET'S JUST FINISH.
I GOT SO, WELL, IT WAS NICE WHEN WE WERE IN THE CONVENTION, IT WASN'T AS COLD.
I MEAN, I AM I LITERALLY THAN NORMAL? YEAH.
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LAST ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS DRB 24 DASH 10 26 94 PALM AVENUE.AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY LEVEL, INCLUDING A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN EXISTING STRUCTURE TO REMAIN WITHIN THE FRONT AND SIDE YARD.
SETBACKS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW DRIVEWAY TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE WIDTH AND ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.
SO THIS, UH, IS A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW TWO STORY HOME, AND IT HAS MULTIPLE DETACHED STRUCTURES.
UM, IT IS, UH, REPLACING AN EXISTING HOME ON PALM ISLAND.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE BEFORE THE BOARD BECAUSE IT IS AN UNDERSTORY HOME, WHICH REQUIRES APPROVAL OF THE BOARD.
IT DOES HAVE TWO DESIGN WAIVERS AND AS WELL, AND TWO VARIANCES AS WELL.
UM, THE HOME, UH, FEATURES THE, THE ONION STORY.
THE UNDERSTORY, UH, IS, IS, UH, IS RAISED TO 16 FEET ON GVD.
UH, SO IT'S OFFERING A SEVEN FOOT FREE BOARD.
SO IT DOES IT FOR RESILIENCY PURPOSES.
IT'S, UH, IT'S PROVIDING A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THAT FIRST HABITABLE LEVEL, UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S ON AN ISLAND.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENT.
UM, THE, UM, THE DESIGN IS A CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
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VOLUMES, UH, PRONOUNCED FLOOR SLABS, UM, AND, AND, UH, STONELIKE FINISHES.UM, IT DOES FEATURE, UM, UM, LARGE FORMAT TILED WALLS, UH, AND SEVERAL OTHER ELEMENTS, WHICH I'M SURE THE ARCHITECT WILL GO THROUGH THAT PROVIDE FOR A VISUALLY INTERESTING HOME.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME DESIGN WAIVERS.
THE FIRST WAIVER IS SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE JUST RECENTLY DISCUSSED.
UH, THE, THE FRONTAGE EXCEEDS 60 FEET IN LENGTH, AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A, A WAIVER OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO 1% OF THE LOT AREA AND EIGHT FEET IN DEPTH.
THEY ARE PROVIDING, UH, UH, MOVEMENT ALONG THAT FACADE.
SO IT'S COMPLYING WITH THE INTENT.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A VERY LARGE BLANK WALL.
UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE, UM, OF THAT WAIVER.
UM, THE OTHER WAIVER IS RELATED TO A REQUIREMENT THAT AN UNDERSTORY HOMES ALL PARKING BE LOCATED UNDERNEATH THE UNDERSTORY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THERE BE A, A CARPORT ON THE SIDE OF THE LOT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PARKING OF A, OF A VAN THAT HAS A HIGHER ELEVATION, UH, HIGHER.
SO THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM THAN WHAT THE UNDERSTORY WOULD PROVIDE FOR IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PARK THAT VAN.
UM, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, OF THE WAIVER.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TWO VARIANCES AS WELL.
UH, THE VARIANCES ARE RELATED TO THE ABILITY TO KEEP AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF THE LOT.
UM, SO THE, UM, THAT STRUCTURE, UM, IS A TWO STORY STRUCTURE.
THE GROUND FLOOR IS PARKING, AND THEN THE UPPER FLOOR, UM, I BELIEVE WILL BE USED AS A GUEST HOUSE.
UM, THE, UH, SO THE, THE ISSUE IS THAT THE HOME REQUIRES A 30 FOOT SETBACK.
THE NEW HOME COMPLIES WITH THAT, BUT THIS EXISTING STRUCTURE IS LOCATED NEAR THE FRONT AND IS ONLY PROVIDING A FIVE FOOT, TWO INCH SETBACK.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IS RELATED TO THE SIDE YARD.
UM, THE, THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS WITHIN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AS WELL.
SO THEY NEED RELIEF FROM THAT.
UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE, UM, MODIFYING RECLADDING THIS STRUCTURE SO THAT IT FITS IN ARCHITECTURALLY WITH THE NEW HOME.
UH, AND THEY WILL BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON THE FRONTAGE TO SCREEN THIS STRUCTURE, UH, FROM VIEW OF THE PRI PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF KEEPING EXISTING BUILDINGS.
SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THESE VARIANCES.
UM, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE COMPLIES PERFECTLY WITH THE, WITH THOSE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE VARIANCES SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER BEFORE WE START ANY EX PARTY, UH, DISCLOSURES? NOPE.
AND I SEE YOUR LUNCH HAS ARRIVED, SO I DON'T WANNA GET COLD.
SO WE'RE GONNA ZOOM THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, AND EVERY MEMBER OF YOUR TEAM'S BEEN SWORN, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? SWORN? NO.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR BOARDER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN TO SOUTHEAST KIM BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WILEY TODAY IS RONALDO BORGES AND EMILIO GARCIA.
I OFTEN WORKED WITH RONALDO IN THE PAST.
IT'S BEEN A LONG PAUSE, SO I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH HIM ON THIS PROJECT.
HE'S A GREAT PARTNER TO WORK WITH, AND, UM, IT'S ALWAYS A PRIVILEGE.
MATTHEW LEWIS IS OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MY, UH, COLLEAGUE, EMILY BALTER.
YOU KNOW, THE ZONING OF PALM ISLAND IS INTERESTED IN THAT.
THE EASTERN HALF IS MUCH MORE GENEROUS ZONING THAN THE WESTERN HALF, AND IT'S WITH THESE LARGER LOTS THAT ARE HERE.
STAR ISLAND, A PORTION OF PINE TREE DRIVE NORTH OF ARTHUR GODFREY, AND ON LAGO ISLAND, THAT THE BETTER, MORE CREATIVE ARCHITECTS CAN REALLY DO WONDERS WITH THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THAT'S WHAT RONALDO HAS DONE HERE.
THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING HOME, AS RA HAS DESCRIBED TO YOU ALL.
ONE IS FOR THE UNDERSTORY, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON.
THE SECOND ONE IS, UH, WAIVER TO PERMIT ONE PARKING SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE UNDERSTORY FOR AN A DA ACCESSIBLE VAN.
THE THIRD IS REQUIRED OPEN SPACE THAT NOTCH IN THE EAST ELEVATION.
THE REP HELIO, UH, DESCRIBED THAT AND THAT RONALDO WILL GO INTO GREATER DETAIL ABOUT.
AND THE LAST ONE ARE A COUPLE OF VARIANCES JUST TO KEEP A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT OF OUR YARD TO PROVIDE A GUEST HOUSE AND A PARKING AREA.
I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO RONALDO AND HAVE HIM WALK YOU THROUGH HIS DESIGN.
ALWAYS INTERESTING TO BE RIGHT BEFORE LUNCH.
SO, AS MICHAEL WAS SAYING, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE, UM, THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE COMPLIMENTARY LANDSCAPE THAT, UM, MATTHEW WILL ALSO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU.
UM, BRIEFLY, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM, UH, PALM AVENUE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE
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LAYERS OF LANDSCAPING.WE LIKE TO SHOW SOME OF THESE IMAGES WITH AND WITHOUT THE, THE, THE SORT OF THE FINAL LAYER OF TREES.
SO, SO YOU COULD START TO SEE HOW IT AFFECTS THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, AND I THINK REALLY COMPLIMENTS IT.
SO, UH, AS AN UNDERSTORY STRATEGY, WE'RE RACING UP THIS HOUSE.
UM, UH, IT'S AN UNDERSTORY, UH, FOR MANY REASONS, UH, MOSTLY FOR RESILIENCY.
UH, AND THEN, THEN IT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF USE THE UNDERSTORY FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, OUTDOOR LIVING.
SUPER EXCITED TO, TO, TO BE DESIGNING THEIR, THEIR DREAM HOME HERE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
UM, SO IT'S A HOUSE THAT'S FULL OF, UH, LOTS OF ACTIVITIES AND, AND LOTS OF FUN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLAYING WITH, WITH SOME FORMS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THAT THAT VOLUME THAT IS SUSPENDED IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED BY THIS SCULPTURAL COLUMN THAT IS ALSO WRAPPED IN A, UH, UM, VENETIAN STUCCO.
UM, THE PRIMARY STONE MATERIAL, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE BLUISH, UM, STONE.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A STATE OF THE ART, UM, UH, PORCELAIN.
AND WE HAVE THE SAMPLES HERE FOR YOU TO SEE AND TOUCH, UH, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE DURABILITY OF THE PORCELAIN.
AND, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED SO MUCH THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL, UM, THE DIFFERENCE, AND IT JUST PERFORMS BETTER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE VERTICAL ELEMENT.
THESE, UM, THESE LOUVRE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE A SAMPLE OF, OF THE MATERIAL FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT AND TOUCH AS WELL.
AND, AND, AND THOSE SORT OF ADD TO THAT TEXTURE AND THAT LAYERING AS YOU COME UP TO THE, UM, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TAKES YOU OVER, UH, A CASCADING, UH, FOUNTAIN ELEMENT AS WELL.
UM, HERE IT IS WITH THE, THE FINAL LAYERING OF, OF THE INTERNAL LANDSCAPE, UM, FROM THIS SIDE, AGAIN, WITHOUT THE TREES AND WITH THE TREES.
AND YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ADD THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER OF TREES.
AND MATTHEW HAS SELECTED THESE BEAUTIFUL GUMBO LIMBOS THAT WILL MATURE AND REALLY HELP, UH, TO LAYER THE ARCHITECTURE ALONG THE MAIN ROAD INTERNALLY.
UM, AS YOU ENTER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS, UM, BEAUTIFUL, UH, PAVED AREA TO ALLOW THE CARS TO COME INTO THE UNDERSTORY AND ALSO TO THE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A GUARDHOUSE THAT IS BEING RETAINED.
AND, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST MODIFYING ITS ARCHITECTURE TO KIND OF BLEND IT INTO THE NEW ARCHITECTURE.
AND, AND THAT, UH, STORES THREE ADDITIONAL CARS, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE FLOATING STEPS AS YOU COME UP TO THE ENTRY OVER THE FOUNTAIN ELEMENTS.
AND THEN AT THE FAR END OF THIS THING WILL BE A PICKLEBALL COURT.
COULDN'T KEEP THE PICKLEBALL COURT OUTTA THIS.
THIS IS WHY THIS HOUSE IS SO MUCH FUN.
BUT IT'S A SMALL CORD ON THE SITE AND IT'S SCREENED OFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING REALLY, UM, MAKES IT DISAPPEAR IN THAT FRONT AREA.
WITH THIS S BLENDED EXPOSURE TO THE BISCAYNE BAY ENVIRONMENT, UH, YOU'LL SEE IT WITH AND WITHOUT THE LANDSCAPE LAYERING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE LAYERING REALLY ADDS A LOT.
UM, ON, ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU HAVE MORE OF A KAVANA ROOM, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF ENJOY THE BAY AND BE CLOSER TO THE WATER.
UH, FROM THE PRIMARY HOUSE ON THE LEFT, I'M, I'M SORRY, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU HAVE A FITNESS CENTER AND A SPA THAT IS ALSO WITHIN THE, SORT OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, UM, ALLOWANCE FOR ITS SETBACK.
SO IT KIND OF BRINGS IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, UH, TO THE WATER.
UH, THEY'RE BOTH AT, UH, 10 FEET, UH, NGBD, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM, UH, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ALLOWS.
AND THEN THE MAIN HOUSE IS UP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE UNDERSTORY, UM, ALLOWANCE.
UM, AND, AND, UM, MAXIMIZING THE VIEWS OUT TO THE WATER.
THERE'S A PRIMARY LEVEL OF, OF PUBLIC ROOMS, UH, AND THEN THE PRIVATE ROOMS, UH, ON THE, ON THE UPPERMOST LEVEL WITH A PRIVATE TERRACE TOWARDS THE RIGHT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T MISS, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS BEAUTIFUL TERRACE ON THE ROOFTOP TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL, UM, PANORAMIC VIEW OF THE SKYLINE OF BOTH MIAMI BEACH AND THE CITY OF MIAMI, UM, MOVING FORWARD HERE.
SO YOU COULD SEE A LOT OF POOLS, A LOT OF WATER, WHICH IS REALLY THE REASON WHY PEOPLE COME TO OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.
AND, UM, THIS PARTICULAR POOL ALSO HAS A BOTTOM THAT COMES UP.
AND, AND, AND FOR, FOR SAFETY REASONS, THE POOL KIND OF DISAPPEARS FOR, FOR THE CHILDREN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, A SUNKEN FIRE PIT THAT ALSO ALLOWS YOU SPLENDID VIEWS OF THE BAY AND, AND THE PORT OF MIAMI AND THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY WITH A POOL COMING RIGHT UP TO IT.
AND THEN THE PRIMARY STAIR THAT TAKES YOU UP TO THE MAIN DECK OF THE HOUSE THAT ALSO HAS THESE, UM, ALUMINUM, UH, CHAR ELEMENTS THAT ALLOW FOR MORE USAGE OF THAT SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT IT FROM THE SUN.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE UNDERSTORY, THIS IS THE VIEW YOU GET OUT TO THE WATER.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AT THAT LOWER LEVEL, UH, WHICH IS KIND OF THE LOWEST LEVEL OF, OF THE SITE, UH, OVERLOOKING THE POOL INTO BISCAYNE BAY, A LITTLE BIT UPPER, UH, DECK VIEW.
SO THIS IS A DECK ABOVE THE PRIMARY DECK OVERLOOKING, YOU KNOW, THE SPLENDID SCENERY OF, UM, OF THE
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BAY AND THE PORT OF MIAMI.ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SAME DECK, THE UNDERSTORY.
SO THE UNDERSTORY REALLY BECOMES A VERY ACTIVE, UM, SHELTERED AREA TO ENJOY THE POOLS, THE SPA, UH, AND SOME ENTERTAINMENT, UH, WITH THE FAMILY DOWN BELOW.
THIS IS THE OPPOSITE VIEW OF THAT, KIND OF LOOKING INTO THE UNDERSTORY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 300 INCH WIDE DIGITAL, UH, SCREEN, UH, TO VIEW MOVIES THERE AND ENJOY THAT SPACE, YOU KNOW, UH, DURING THE DAY AND DURING THE NIGHT BECOMES A VERY ACTIVE, FESTIVE, UH, ENVIRONMENT.
THIS IS MORE OF A PRIVATE TERRACE, UH, RIGHT OFF, UH, THE MASTER BEDROOM SUITE THAT ALSO ENJOYS, UH, THE, THE VIEW OF THE, THE BAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE SITE HERE, THE CONTEXT IS A DOUBLE, DOUBLE LOT, UH, 200 FEET IN WIDTH BY, UH, LIKE 320 IN DEPTH AND CONTEXTUAL ELEVATIONS KIND OF GIVE YOU A REFERENCE OF THE CURRENT, UH, EVER CHANGING CONTEXT.
AND THEN THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU, UH, THE SITE OF THE, UM, UNDERSTORY AND, AND, UH, MATTHEW WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL, UM, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE LANDSCAPE.
BUT IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE TEXTURING AND THE WAY WE'RE DEALING WITH, WITH THE LANDSCAPE ENVIRONMENT, THE MAIN, UH, LEVEL, BIG OPEN ROOMS, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF CROSSOVER AND BECOME ONE LARGER ENVIRONMENT.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO ADAPTABLE TO DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE, UH, DINNER PARTIES AND SO ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DECK, THE TERRACE, THAT, THAT ALSO HAS A PROTECTIVE, UH, TRELLIS ELEMENT, UM, THAT ALLOWS 'EM TO ENJOY THAT AREA, UH, MORE FREQUENTLY.
UM, ON THE UPPER LEVEL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ALL THE PRIVATE ROOMS AND, UM, GUEST ROOMS, AND THEN THE ROOFTOP, UH, IT'S ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING US TO PUT SOME MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT UP, UP THERE, SCREENED, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, VIEWS OUT TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE SOUTH, TOWARDS THE EAST, TOWARDS THE WEST, YOU KNOW, THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY.
UM, SO THESE, THESE IMAGES, UH, GIVE YOU ALL THE MATERIALITY OF THE PROJECT.
I KNOW YOU HAVE THESE IN YOUR PACKAGE, SO I'LL, I'LL JUST GO QUICKLY AND WAIT FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THE SECTIONAL QUALITY OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERSTORY, AGAIN, CREATING A VERY RESILIENT ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR, UH, STORM SEARCH, UH, CONDITION HERE.
AND, UM, ALLOWING ALSO FOR OUTDOOR LIVING UNDER THE HOUSE, YOU SEE A GREATER DETAIL HERE.
UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL PRESCRIBED BY A FORMULA THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT LOWER ELEVATIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED.
ANOTHER SECTION TOWARDS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE POOL DECKS.
THIS IS ALWAYS AN ATTRACTIVE EXHIBIT, KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW WE, UM, HAD TO COMPUTE ALL THE, UH, ALLOWABLE AREAS.
UM, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO RESPECT THESE, UH, GREEN AREAS THAT ARE, UH, PROVIDED IN THE REAR YARDS AND IN THE FRONT YARD AS WELL.
AND THEN THIS IS THE MODIFIED, UH, FRONT PAVILION.
IT GETS A NEW FACADE AND SOME OF THE EXHIBITS TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE WAIVERS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN THIS IS WHERE MATTHEW, UH, YOU'LL SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR LANDSCAPE, AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF EXISTING PLANT MATERIAL WHEN MATTHEW FINISHES HIS PRESENTATION, THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU EXCEEDED YOUR 10 MINUTES, BUT HOW MUCH TIME AS YOU NEED? I CAN BE, I CAN BE PRETTY QUICK.
AND THEN MATTHEW, I NEED TO SWAY YOU IN OH, BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T SWORN IN, YOU CAME IN LATE.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, SIR.
HI, I'M MATTHEW LEWIS, UM, 72 94 NORTHWEST FIRST COURT IN MIAMI.
UM, THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY A GREAT PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE SITE, YOU KNOW, BEING A DOUBLE LOT AND HAVING, HAVING THE ARCHITECTURE BEING AS IT IS AS WELL DESIGNED AS, AS ALDO DID IT, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP AS MANY OF THE, THE TREES, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NOT ANY TREES ON SITE, WE KEPT MANY OF THE PERIMETER, UM, PALM TREES BECAUSE ONE, IT HELPS TO PROVIDE A, A, A NICE SCALE IN RELATION TO THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE WHEN WE'RE FIRST STARTING ON THIS PROJECT, WE REALLY THINK ABOUT THE TREES AS PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
SO IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALLY GIVE A LARGE AND GRAND SCALE TO THE PALMS, UM, THAT WERE EXISTING TO THE SITE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPE GOES, UM, WE ARE THE, THE CITY, UH, URBAN FORESTRY DOESN'T REALLY COUNT.
THEY DON'T COUNT PALMS, UM, TOWARDS OUR CALCULATION FOR THE LANDSCAPE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, WE DID BRING IN ABOUT 30 TO 40 PALMS, AGAIN, TO BRING THAT SCALE TO, TO HELP KIND OF REINFORCE THE HOUSE TO THE, TO THE GROUND BY HAVING THESE 25
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AND 30 FOOT CLEAR TRUNK PALMS. HOWEVER, UM, FROM A TREE PERSPECTIVE, UH, AS YOU SAW IN ONE OF THE EARLIER RENDERINGS ALONG THE STREET, WE'RE, WE'RE INDICATING, UM, SEVERAL LARGE GUMBO LIMBO, GUMBO LIMBO TREES.AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE SITE, WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN OVER 150 NATIVE, UM, NATIVE SOUTH FLORIDA TREES, WHICH ARE GREEN BUTTONWOOD, UM, JAMAICA CAPERS, SIMPSON STOPPERS, BAY RUMS, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND, AND BY DOING THAT WITH THE LARGE TREES AND THOSE NATIVE UNDERSTORY TREES, WE REALLY START TO, UH, INFILL THEM, INFILL THE SITE WITH NATIVE PLANTING, WHICH FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT SUSTAINABILITY, IT REALLY, WHAT WE REALLY SEE IN, IN PROJECTS LIKE THIS IS WE REALLY SEE THE, THE RETURN OF BIRDS AND BEES AND BUTTERFLIES AND ALL THINGS THAT, THAT CREATE THE E ECOSYSTEM, NOT JUST THE BUILDING AND, AND THE PEOPLE USING IT.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? SEE NO ONE HERE ONLINE.
I'M NOW GOING TO, RIGHT NOW DO SOMEHOW ONLINE AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT YOU'RE HERE,
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED
UM, I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION.
OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I, I CONCUR WITH STAFF'S ANALYSIS THAT THE SPECIAL, THAT SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST, WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND STRUCTURE OR BUILDING INVOLVED, IE THE EXISTENCE OF, OF THIS STRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD ABSENT THE GRANT OF THE VARIANCE, BUT OTHERWISE NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
UM, AND THAT THESE CIRCUMSTANCES AREN'T APPLICABLE TO OTHER LAND STRUCTURES OR BUILDINGS IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND I ALSO CONCUR WITH THEIR NOTE THAT THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD BE IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
AND THE SUCH VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE INJURIOUS TO THE AREA INVOLVED OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC WELFARE, AND NOTE THE ABSENCE OF ANY OBJECTION FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND SO BASED ON THAT, I INTEND TO, TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE GRANT OF THE VARIANCE AND WOULD URGE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO DO SO AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE VARIANCES? ANYONE ELSE WANNA SO TO COMMENT, UM, I THINK RONALDO, YOU ALWAYS, UH, DO BRING GOOD, THOUGHTFUL DESIGNS, AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERSTORY WHEN WE REVIEW THESE PROJECTS.
IT'S HARD TO THINK OF RESILIENCY WHEN THERE IS SUCH LUXURY, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE DOING THE BEST.
MY ONE QUESTION, AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME, UM, FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, IS WHY ARE YOU REQUESTING TO KEEP THE, UM, EXISTING STRUCTURE? YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT IS, I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING HAS CHANGED AND WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITH HEIGHT, WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS, BUT HOLDING ONTO THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING WHERE YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO BUILD IF YOU WEREN'T MAINTAINING IT.
AND SO WHY DO YOU FEEL LIKE, HOW DO YOU, HOW ARE YOU JUSTIFYING THE NEED FOR THAT? SO, THANK YOU.
SO I THINK, UM, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR ME WAS CLEAR BECAUSE THERE'S A CARETAKER THAT LIVES ON SITE RIGHT NOW THAT TAKES CARE OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY FOR THE OWNERS.
UM, AND THE INTENTION IS TO LEAVE HIM IN PLACE.
AND THEN, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THERE'S THREE PARKING SPACES UNDERNEATH IS, IS PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED.
WE PROBABLY JUST NEED A COUPLE OF CARS THERE.
AND, UM, THE CODE ALLOWS US TO ASK, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS, UH, VARIANCE ON THAT ELEMENT, IT'S, IT'S FAR TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO IT'S REALLY NOT OBSTRUCTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IT WAS A CLIENT REQUEST PROGRAMMATICALLY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY KEEP THAT AS A CARETAKER'S, UH, HOME, UH, HAS LIKE, UM, UH, A SMALL APARTMENT UPSTAIRS FOR THE CARETAKER AND HIS FAMILY.
UM, SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASON, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SORT OF DEFACED IT AND, AND BROUGHT THE NEW ARCHITECTURE INTO CONTEXT WITH, WITH THE HOUSE.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE RENDERINGS.
WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, RONALDO, UM, I REALLY, I REALLY LIKE THIS HOUSE.
UM, IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW BIG IT IS, BUT HOW KIND OF LIGHT IT FEELS, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S FLOATING.
IT FEELS, I, I MEAN, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE, THE COLUMN AND THE, THE ASYMMETRY OF IT ALL.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I REALLY, IT'S THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IS THE, UM, I AGREE, IT FEELS SORT OF DREAMY.
I MEAN, THIS IS A HOUSE, UM, THE, THE STONE THAT YOU'VE SELECTED, IT'S VERY UNIQUE.
IS THAT, IS IT PRETTY SET OR IS THIS JUST A GENERAL, IF YOU CAN SHOW, SHOW US YOUR OFF THE MICRO FOR A SECOND AND SHOW YOU THE MATERIAL FOR SECOND.
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IS HAND, I DON'T SEE EASEL, SO THIS IS, YOU NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.THERE'S NO WAY TO DETACH THIS DEVICE.
SO INDEED, THIS IS THE POR, HERE YOU SEE A LARGER IMAGE OF THE, OF THE LARGER SCALE SLAB.
SO THE CLIENT WANTED SOMETHING BLUISH, YOU KNOW, BLUE IS THEIR FAVORITE COLOR, AND, UM, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT REPRESENTED LIKE THAT IN, IN BOTH THE, UM, THE RENDERINGS AND, AND IN THESE SAMPLES HERE.
SO WE BASICALLY HAVE THREE STONES AND KIND OF SEE 'EM REPRESENTED HERE.
ALTHOUGH THIS IS, UH, MORE OF A PORCELAIN, UH, PRODUCT.
THIS IS THE, THE VERTICAL PANELS, AS YOU COULD SEE, THE, IT'S MORE OF A COPPER FINISH ON IT, AND IT'LL, IT'LL HAVE THESE PERFORATIONS THEN OUR TYPICAL EPE FOR THE UNDERSIDE OF SOME OF THE CANOPIES, SOME DRAPING SCREENS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IN A SIDE STAIR, AND THEN THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ENCLOSURE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SAMPLING THAT YOU SEE HERE.
AND OF COURSE, THE, UM, THE PERVIOUS PAVER THAT, UH, MATTHEW HAS, UH, SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT THAT BRINGS WARMTH.
AND IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IS PERVIOUS, UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, ABOUT THE, THE STONE? UH, SO, SO THE, THE ONE THAT WE KEEP SEEING, IT'S, IT'S THAT, THAT ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BLUISH.
ONE'S THE BLUE ONE, THE, THE MAIN SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THIS ONE.
MIND IF I CLARIFY SOMETHING OR A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, SO WE, WE HAVE A CONDITION IN HERE.
THE FINAL DESIGN DETAILS AND COLOR SELECTION OF THE EXTERIOR BLUE BLUELIKE STONE CLADDING, UH, SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF.
UH, IS THAT, SO IT'S NOT STONE, IT'S GONNA BE PORCELAIN TILE.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO ISSUES IN PERMITTING THAT THE ORDER SAYS STONE, THEY COME IN AND IT'S PORCELAIN TILE THAT, THAT THEY THEN RUN INTO ISSUES.
UM, SO CAN YOU CLARIFY, THESE ARE DEFINITELY THE MATERIALS YOU'RE GONNA USE? YES.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT COULD JUST BE MATERIALS AS PRESENTED FOR DRB.
AND WE KNOW WE HAVE TO BRING THE MATERIAL PALETTE TO YOU DURING THE FINAL PERMITTING AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE, SO I WOULDN'T, SO I WOULD BASICALLY STRIKE THE WORD STONE, UM, SO THAT THAT GIVES US THE OPTION TO CONSIDER THE PORCELAIN OR THE OTHER, THE OTHER, YEAH, STONELIKE PORCELAIN, YEAH.
FOR DURABILITY TECHNOLOGY OR STONELIKE.
WHAT IS THE MATERIAL USED FOR THE COVERING OF THE MECHANICAL AREA? SO THIS IS AN ALUMINUM, UH, SCREENING SYSTEM.
UH, SO YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE SCALE THAT IT WILL BE, UM, USED ON THE ROOFTOP IS PRIMARILY THE ROOFTOP IS WHERE WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS, UM, IT BECOMES VERY OPAQUE, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR VENTILATION TO COME THROUGH AS WELL.
SO IT'S AN INNOVATIVE WAY OF SCREENING THE EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, WE THOUGHT WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE.
WHERE'S THAT BUBBLE? UM, THE WHITE.
SO THAT IS THESE VERTICAL ELEMENTS THAT YOU SEE IN THE FACADE.
IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE RENDERING ON, ON THE SCREEN, UM, IT'S THE VERTICAL COPPERS LOOKING VERTICAL ELEMENTS IN THE FACADE.
AND YOU SEE A A, A SCALE OH, OH, OH YEAH.
VERSION OF THAT HERE, UH, SIMULATED, YOU KNOW, TO SCALE.
UM, I, I, SO I AGREE WITH, I, I THINK THIS IS A, A FANTASTIC DESIGN.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND I ALSO AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE AND UNDERSTAND WHY THAT STRUCTURE WOULD NEED TO BE RETAINED.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S SOME GOOD LANDSCAPING COVERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD OTHER BUYS BE A SOLID, IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE EXISTING CONDITION THERE'S A WALL AND THEN THERE'S STUFF IN FRONT OF THE WALL, AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE A SORT OF OVERBEARING EFFECT.
AND THAT, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE REPRODUCING THAT, CONTINUING THAT AS WELL.
UM, I, SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE VARIANCE.
UM, AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE WAIVERS, UM, IT'S, CAN YOU JUST SHOW US, JUST TO BE THOROUGH, WHAT THE, THE SIDE, THE FIRST WAVE ABOUT THAT EXCEEDS THE 60 FEET LENGTH A NOTCH? BECAUSE STAFF HAD SAID THAT, THAT THE DESIGN EAST ELEVATION, IT BREAKS UP THE ELEVATION TO MEET THE ENTIRE, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SHOW YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A, A GOOD RENDERING OR DRAWING OR, SO FIRST, LET ME SHOW IT TO YOU.
IN, UH, IN THIS IMAGE HERE, YOU CAN SEE WE DO HAVE A BOWLING ALLEY, YOU KNOW, FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS.
UH, UM, SO YOU SEE THAT LINEAR, UH, PIECE THAT STICKS OUT, AND YOU SEE THE ARTICULATION OF THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S A DISTANCING.
WE, WE SORT OF CREATED A SPACE IN BETWEEN THE MAIN
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HOUSE AND THAT ELEMENT AS IT KIND OF PROTRUDES OUT.AND I THINK IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CALCULATED, IT SORT OF MEETS THE INTENT OF KIND OF BREAKING UP THE SIDE FACADE AND CREATING THE, THE CREATING THOSE GREEN AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE BY FORMULA IN MIAMI BEACH.
UM, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 3D, RIGHT? SO IN 3D, UM, WE HAVE A VIGNETTE THAT WE DID HERE.
UH, WELL, DID WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE PRESENTATION? NO, IT'S OKAY.
SO YOU KIND OF SEE THE, THE WAY THE MASSING KIND OF BREAKS UP, AND ALL OF THIS, OF COURSE IS LAYERED WITH MATTHEW'S BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, PLANT MATERIAL.
UM, SO IT REALLY SOFTENS THAT FACADE.
THIS IS SORT OF THE EAST, UM, AND, AND NORTH, UH, FACADE OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO THE SECTION THAT'S CLOSEST TO US, THAT'S THE BOWLING ALLEY.
AND THEN THERE'S A SORT OF A SQUARE NEXT TO IT, AND THEN THERE'S A RECESS.
SO WE HAVE A, A, A PANEL OF STONE AT, AT THE END SIDE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF TRANSITIONS TO THE SIDE.
WE HAD TO HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE TO SERVICE THE, THE SORT OF THE END OF THE BOWLING ALLEY, UH, IN CASE SOMETHING MECHANICALLY GOES WRONG.
AND THAT'S SORT OF THAT BREEZEWAY THAT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO ELEVATED AS PART OF THE UNDERSTORY STRATEGY.
SO I, I'M, I UNDERSTAND THIS WAIVER.
I THINK YOU DID A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD JOB OF EXPRESSING THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
THE ONE WAIVER THAT I'M, I, I'M, I, I'M NOT CONVINCED IS A HARDSHIP HAS TO RELATE TO THE CARPORT.
UM, I KNOW THAT CARPORTS AREN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE OFTEN HAVE OR ENCOURAGE OR WHAT.
I WAS ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT A CARPORT HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO A STRUCTURE.
IT JUST CAN'T BE FREESTANDING, JUST SHOWING THE SITE PLAN.
THE CODE, THE CODE HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR CARPORTS.
WHEN YOU'RE ENCROACHING INTO THE FRONT SETBACK, THIS IS NOT ENCROACHING INTO THE FRONT SETBACK.
SO THAT REQUIREMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY APPLY HERE.
THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED ESSENTIALLY PART OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
SO THE, THE MAIN STRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY.
SO THAT STRUCTURE CAN BE THERE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CODE RESTRICTION ON, ON, ON BUILDING THAT STRUCTURE AT THAT LOCATION.
THE, THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR UNDERSTORY HOMES THAT THE PARKING BE LOCATED UNDERNEATH THE UNDERSTORY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY NEED THE WAIVER.
IF THIS WERE JUST A PERGOLA OR SOME OTHER STRUCTURE, UM, THAT WHAT WASN'T USED FOR PARKING, IT COULD BE LOCATED THERE.
WELL, AND I THINK, MY THOUGHT IS THIS REALLY A HARDSHIP.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS VERY LARGE DOUBLE LOT.
YOU HAVE, I COUNTED PARKING SPACES FOR 17 CARS.
YOU HAVE AN ENORMOUS DRIVEWAY, AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING TO CONVERT A PART OF THE OPEN GREEN SPACE TO MORE DRIVEWAY.
GRANTED IT'S PERVIOUS SURFACE.
AND THEN WE'RE PLANTING A CARPORT IN THE PROPERTY TO PARK.
I, I DON'T SEE HOW, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS A HARDSHIP, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CRI.
I MEAN, THERE SEEMS TO BE PLENTY OF DRIVEWAY SPACE TO PARK THE CAR.
WHY IS THIS NECESSARY? AND I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S VERY NICE TO HAVE A CARPORT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELEGANT MIAMI BEACH HOME.
UH, I, I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT IT ON THE SIDE, SO IT'S REALLY ON THE SHADOW OF THE HOUSE BEHIND ALL THESE HUGE TREES.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT CAME AS A FUNCTIONAL REQUIREMENT FROM THE CLIENT.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE THIS MERCEDES-BENZ OVERSIZED VAN THAT THEY USE.
AND I WASN'T GONNA TELL THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO SELL THE, THE VAN.
YOU KNOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE UNDERSTORY, UH, STRATEGY LIMITS THE HEIGHT OF THE UNDERSTORY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THE HOUSE DOESN'T GET TOO BULKED UP.
SO ONLY CARS COULD GO IN THERE.
THIS VAN WOULDN'T FIT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN BEAUTIFUL FOR THE VAN TO JUST SORT OF DISAPPEAR IN, IN SORT OF IN THE SHADOW OF THE UNDERSTORY.
SO WE DID A VERY FRAGILE CLEAN, UH, MINIMALIST CANOPY STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THEY COULD PARK THEIR VAN AND THEY COULD EXIT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A SERVICE, UH, UH, ENTRANCE THAT GIVES YOU DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE UPPER LEVEL DOWN ADJACENT TO THIS.
SO IT'S PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, LET'S SAY TAKING THE KIDS TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING, THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY.
WE DID CARVE A VERY NARROW PATHWAY THAT IS ALSO, UM, IN, IN, IN, IN CRUSH COCHINA.
THAT THAT SORT OF IS NOT MORE PAVING, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MORE OF THE LANDSCAPE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WHEN WE EXPLORE IT IN THREE DIMENSIONS WITH ALL THE LANDSCAPING, REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, I'M DELIGHTED THAT IT DISAPPEARS, YOU KNOW.
CAN YOU BRING IT UP ON THE SCREEN PLEASE? SO THERE'S A, I THINK, SO I HAVE THIS SITE PLAN ON THE SCREEN AND, AND I WISH, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO SEE.
UH, ROGELIO, WE NEED TO PUT IN AN ORDER FOR BLUEBEAM.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT BLUEBEAM DOES, IT ALLOWS US TO DO DYNAMIC ZOOMS. UM, AND THAT'S WHY I, THIS SORT OF ADOBE THING HERE IS KIND OF AWKWARD.
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I CAN'T ZOOM INTO THIS, BUT IF YOU SEE THIS EXHIBIT IS, IS CREATED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE SCALE OF THE VAN, THE SCALE OF, OF THE MINIMAL CANOPY.UM, AND, AND THE WAY IT'S SORT OF TUCKED BACK IN THE BACK, UH, AND IT REALLY IS SORT OF BEHIND THE, THE GREENERY THAT, UM, THAT YOU SEE IN THE OUR, UH, THE LANDSCAPE SITE PLAN.
IS IT SHOWING THE RENDER? I, I GUESS MY, MY OBJECTION IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S SO MUCH DRIVEWAY.
WHY IS THIS EVEN NECESSARY TO SACRIFICE OPEN SPACE? SO WE ARE REMOVING IT FROM THE FRONT YARD.
LIKE RIGHT NOW IN THE EXISTING CONDITION, THEY HAVE NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO PARK THIS WONDERFUL VAN IN THE FRONT YARD, RIGHT? SO THIS KIND OF DISAPPEARS.
THE VAN TO THE SIDE IS, IS, IS MORE DISCREET.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY NOBODY WANTS TO CELEBRATE THIS VAN.
UM, IT IS ON THE SIDE AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREENERY AROUND THERE.
AND I TAKE IT, THE VAN DOESN'T FIT INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AT THE FRONT.
THESE ARE THESE SORT OF OVERSIZED, UM, MERCEDES BENZ VANS THAT ARE HUGE, BUT VERY COMFORTABLE THAT ACCOMMODATE A CAUGHT UP A LOT OF CAR SEATS.
CHILDREN, YES, YOU CAN GET CHILDREN, KIDS IN A CAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE CHILDREN SOCCER PRACTICE.
AND THEY REALLY WOULD ENJOY HAVING, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T HAVE THE VAN.
I KNOW, I, I'M JUST SAYING YOU'VE GOT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DRIVEWAY.
WHY ARE YOU ADDING MORE DRIVEWAY? WELL, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD, YOU KNOW, SO WE PUT IT ON THE SIDE.
OF COURSE NOT, NOT IN THE FRONT YARD.
AND IT'S NOT A PAP SURFACE LEADING TO IT AT THE COCHINA, THAT PEBBLY THING THAT I HAVE IN MY YARD THAT'S REALLY POROUS, SO REMINISCENT OF OLD MIAMI BEACH, NOT A TERRIBLE DRIVEWAY.
SO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THE CHILDREN ENJOY IT AND THEIR 10 FRIENDS ENJOY IT, PICKING 'EM UP FROM SOCCER PRACTICE IS A HARD THING BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE.
WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE UNDERSTORY.
WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE RETAINED GUEST HOUSE.
SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
RONALDO'S CERTAINLY NOT PROUD OF IT, BUT, BUT HE'S, OH, YES, I'M, HE, HE WAS TASKED WITH IT AND HE HAS TO DO IT, AND HE'S DONE WHAT HE CAN DO TO MAKE IT MODEST AND NOT IN THE WAY.
IF YOU SEE, UM, COULD I POINT WITH THIS? UM, DOES IT HAVE A POINTER? YES, IT DOES.
SO IF, LEMME SEE, 'CAUSE THIS IS THE SCREEN THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, DOES IT POINT, DOES IT POINT TO THE SCREEN? SO YOU COULD SEE OVER HERE THE PLANTS, UH, THE, THE TREES, THE, THE, THE SIGNIFICANT PALM THAT IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CANOPY.
SO IT REALLY, I MEAN, YOU CANNOT EVEN SEE THE ROOF OF, OF THE CANOPY OF, OF, OF, OF THE, UM, WHERE WE'RE STORING THE, THE VAN.
SO IT IS KIND OF LIKE A MAGIC TRICK WE DID HERE.
I MEAN, IF I'M IN THE MINORITY, I'M IN THE MINORITY.
I, I I I, I WOULD THINK THAT IN, YOU KNOW, THE STUBBLE LOT, THERE'D BE A BETTER SOLUTION.
BUT THE ONLY OTHER SOLUTION WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO CARVE MORE IN THE UNDERSTORY.
SO THEN I COULD KIND OF HAVE LIKE A MINI KIND OF LIKE BASEMENT, HALF BASEMENT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT IN WATER WORLD.
CAN'T DO, WE ACCUMULATE WATER, CAN'T DO THAT.
I MEAN THE, THE REGULATION ALLOWS US TO KIND OF LEVEL OFF THINGS AND YEAH.
BUT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE WATER FROM ACCUMULATING.
UM, SO, SO THAT'S, IT'S JUST IN GENERAL A HARD SELL TO SAY I HAVE A 63,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND THERE'S SOME HARDSHIPS BECAUSE OF IT.
THAT, THAT'S SORT OF MY POINT.
IT'S MORE THE PRINCIPLE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DESIGN DECISION.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY A PROBLEM AND IT'S A SHAME THAT YOU'RE COVERING UP OPEN SPACE.
BUT AGAIN, IF, IF I'M IN THE MINORITY, IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A HILL I'M GONNA DIE ON, BUT I JUST ALSO DON'T WANNA SEE CARPORTS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD FOR EVERY HOUSE THAT COMES UP THAT HAS AN UNDERSTORY.
BECAUSE IT GOES, THE WHOLE POINT I THINK OF THE UNDERSTORY IS, IS TO HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE AND LESS PARKING SPACE.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT GOES AGAINST THE, THE INTENT OF WHAT THESE CODES AND REGULATIONS ARE FOR AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE.
SO THAT, THAT IS JUST THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE PUBLICLY MOVING FORWARD.
SO GIVEN I'M, I'M INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT GIVEN THE RESISTANCE I'M HEARING, UM, DO YOU SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE UP THE VARIANCES VARIANCE ONE, VARIANCE NUMBER TWO SEPARATELY, CAN NOT EVEN SEE THE ROOF FROM ANYWHERE? YES.
BECAUSE OF THE VOTING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE DESIGN WITH THE WAIVERS WOULD BE A MOTION AND THE VARIANCE APPROVAL, WE WOULD START WITH, WE WOULD START WITH THE DESIGN DESIGN AND WAIVERS.
AND ALSO THE CONDITION, THE, UM, CLARIFICATION OR CHANGE THAT INSTEAD OF, UM, STONE, IT WOULD BE THE BLUE PORCELAIN OR THE PORCELAIN DIAL FOR THE FRONTAGE DESIGN.
SO LOOK, AS SOMEONE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THIS VERY COMPLICATED RESILIENCY CODE, WHICH IS A WORK OF ART, MM-HMM,
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TELL YOU, THIS SHOULDN'T BE, UH, A HARDSHIP.IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED BECAUSE, AND WE LIVE IN THE TROPICS IN A VERY, YOU KNOW, HOT AND HUMID AND THE SUN IS VERY ACTIVE.
SO IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO SHADE THIS VAN AND NOT JUST LEAVE IT EXPOSED.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE YEAH, IF THAT CANOPY IS WHAT CREATES THE, THE REQUEST THAT THE FACT THAT THERE'S A STRUCTURE.
UM, WHAT ABOUT TWO THINGS? WHAT ABOUT IF WE MAKE THE, THE SURFACE WELL, LIKE POROUS, JUST LIKE THE DRIVE LEADING TO IT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S TAKING UP OPEN SPACE.
SO WHAT ABOUT IF THERE'S A CONCRETE SURFACE THAT IT PARKS UPON, WHY CAN'T IT BE MORE POROUS IN NATURE? YES.
WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW THE MATERIALS YOU SAID IT WAS, IT ALREADY IS POROUS.
IS THAT YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALREADY LABELED AS POROUS ON THE PLAN.
SO, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS REALLY ABOUT A GREEN ROOF THEN MINIMUM FOOTPRINT.
UM, I MEAN I, I, I THINK THAT JUST ADDS TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE CAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I, LISTEN, AS I SAID, THEY COULD JUST PARK THE VAN ON THE DRIVEWAY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS A VAN DOES WHERE WHERE IN THE DRIVEWAY WOULD YOU PARK.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY A PROBLEM.
SO, BUT AGAIN, IF, IF I DON'T WANNA, YOU, YOU DID WITH THIS RESILIENCY CODE, YOU MANAGED TO DESIGN A BEAUTIFUL HOME THAT I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA BE THRILLED BY.
I, I, I JUST NEEDED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
IT'S A WAIVER WORKING IN THE REQUIRED YARD.
UH, SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A VARIANCE.
THEY WOULD STILL, EVEN IF THEY DON'T BUILD A CARPORT, THEY WOULD STILL NEED THE WAIVER BECAUSE THE WAIVER IS FOR PARKING OUTSIDE OF THE, OUTSIDE OF THE FRONT YARD.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THE, OUTSIDE OF THE, OUTSIDE OF THE UNDERSTORY.
OH, SO YOU'D NEED A WAIVER, LIKE, SO NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TO BE DESIGNED TO HAVE THE CARS UNDER IT, THE CARS DO ACTUALLY HAVE TO PARK UNDERNEATH IT, RIGHT? NOT JUST OUT AND DESPITE THE PRESENCE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
SO WE, WE COULDN'T HAVE THIS, THE DRIVEWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE TO DRIVE ON NOT TO NOT TO PARK ON NOT TO PARK, NOT TO PARK ON.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAD A CONVENTIONAL HOME, YOU COULD, YOU COULD PARK THERE.
BUT THE, THE GOAL OF THE UNDERSTORY IS TO HAVE ALL THE PARKING HIDDEN UNDERNEATH, UM, UNDERNEATH THE HOME SO THAT THAT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC.
AGAIN, TO INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE, THE PERMEABILITY AND, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AS ONE BOARD MEMBER, I DON'T TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE CARPORT.
I I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, UM, ALTHOUGH NOT A HARDSHIP, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE DIFFICULTY OF, UM, THE CHILDREN, THE VAN NOT GOING IN THE UNDERSTORY BECAUSE OF HEIGHT, UM, AND HAVING IT SHIELDED FROM THE SUN, ALL OF THAT UNDERSTOOD WHETHER THAT QUALIFIES AS A HARDSHIP.
I, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE THAT, AND WE STILL TRANSPORT CHILDREN AND, AND THE LIKE, HOWEVER, WITH A LOT THIS BIG, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK THAT EVENTUALLY WE WOULD HAVE PROJECTS COMING TO US.
UM, AND EVEN WITH SMALLER LOTS WHERE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS NOT ON THE ROOFTOP OF A STRUCTURE, UM, OF A HOME OR, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN A HOME WITH A LOT THIS SIZE, AND YET WE ARE ALLOWING IT BECAUSE THE CODE ALLOWS IT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OF A, UM, OF AN ISSUE FOR ME.
LET'S START WITH THE DESIGN INCLUSIVE OF WAIVERS, UM, WHICH I MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND.
AND THAT, THAT INCLUDES MODIFYING THE CONDITION, UH, FOR STONE TO BE STONELIKE OR PORCELAIN CLADDING.
OR AS SHOWN DURING THE MEETING AS SHOWN.
WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY MR. SHELDON.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. DIFFENDERFER.
SO I NOW, UM, MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCE NUMBER ONE.
WE CAN DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
OH, I THINK YOU CAN APPROVE, DO BOTH IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
WELL, I, I JUST, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF ONE VARIANCE BUT NOT THE OTHER.
UM, I, PEOPLE ARE SHAKING THEIR HEADS.
SO LET'S DO THEM BOTH AND MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH OF THEIR REQUESTED VARIANCES.
SECOND MOTION BY MR. SHELDON, SECOND BY MR. DINGER.
IF, IF YOU MAY JUST MAKE, MAY I MAKE ONE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT? OF COURSE.
[03:45:01]
THIS IS, UH, GISELLE'S LAST MEETING WITH US HERE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.I WANT TO THANK HER VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF HER ASSISTANCE.
SHE MADE MY TRANSITION FROM PLANNING BOARD HERE EASY.
UM, AND, UH, HER EXPERTISE ON, ON THE CODE IS SPEC AND SPECIFICALLY THE SINGLE FAMILY SECTION IS, IS, IS UNBELIEVABLE.
THE SINGLE FAMILY SECTION IS, IS A TOUGH ONE.
UM, SO SHE'S MADE MY TRANSITION EASIER.
UM, AND SHE'S GONNA BE GOING TO WORK ON THE PLANNING BOARD WITH MICHAEL BELU.
SO TO KEEP THINGS INTERESTING, CHANGING UP HER, HER, UH, HER PURVIEW.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH ALEJANDRO CARTO, WHO I THINK IS SOMEWHERE BACK HERE IF YOU CAN SAY HELLO
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: October 1, 2024]
ON THE DAY AT THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 1ST.SO THANK YOU, GISELLE, AND, UH, WELCOME ALEJANDRO.
UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND TO MY MOTION TO ADJOURN? NO, WE HAVE TO STAY HERE.