Sep 10, 2024 Historic Preservation Board

ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS MORNING IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JULY 9TH, UH, MEETING MINUTES.

THANK YOU NICK.

UH, MR. CHAIR, THE FIRST

[1. After Action July 9, 2024 ]

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, TWO APPLICATIONS FOR 1525, UM, LENOX AVENUE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES THIS MORNING, SO WE CAN MOVE RIGHT ON TO OUR FIRST APPLICATION.

[2. HPB24-0617, 1525 Lenox Avenue.]

[3. HPB23-0605, 1525 Lenox Avenue.]

UM, I'M GONNA READ THEM BOTH.

WE'RE GONNA HEAR THEM TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH THEY WILL BE SEPARATE, UM, MOTIONS, SEPARATE VOTES, UM, BUT WE'RE, SINCE WE'RE GONNA HEAR THEM TOGETHER, I'M GONNA READ THEM BOTH INTO THE RECORD.

UM, AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE.

FIRST.

FIRST APPLICATION IS HPB 24 0 6 1 7.

THIS IS 1525.

LENNOX AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

THE COMPANION APPLICATION IS HPV 23 0 6 0 5.

AGAIN, THIS IS 1525 LENNOX.

AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

UM, WITH REGARD TO THE DEMOLITION, UM, WHICH IS 6 1 7, UH, STAFF HAS OUTLINED A QUITE EXTENSIVE HISTORY WITH REGARD TO, UH, BUILDING VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE PROPERTY, UH, DATING BACK TO 2013.

THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT, UM, ISSUES WITH THE, UH, WITH THE BUILDING, UM, IN TERMS OF MALFUNCTIONING SANITARY SYSTEMS, UM, THAT THAT CONTINUED FOR, UM, A COUPLE YEARS.

AND THEN IN 2016,

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UM, THERE WAS A SEVERE STRUCTURAL ALTERATION THAT WAS NOT PERMITTED AND NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY.

UM, ONE OF THE UNIT OWNERS AT THE TIME, IT WAS A CO-OP BUILDING, ACTUALLY CUT THROUGH THE WOOD JOISTS, UM, TRYING TO CONNECT A UNIT TO THE UNIT ABOVE.

UM, AT THAT POINT, ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS WERE ISSUED, UM, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS WORKING FOR THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME, BASICALLY.

AND, AND I WAS TANGENTIALLY INVOLVED AS WELL, TRYING TO GET THE BUILDING REPAIRED AND INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, FAST FORWARD, UM, TO 2022, THE, THE UNITS, ALL SIX UNITS WERE ACQUIRED BY A NEW OWNER, AND, UM, THE NEW OWNER WAS NOT ABLE TO CURE THE VIOLATION.

UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED STRUCTURAL INFORMATION REPORTS, UM, TO THAT, TO THAT EXTENT.

UM, IN 2023, AND I THINK SEVERAL OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, UM, THERE WAS A DEMOLITION ORDER ISSUED AT THAT TIME.

WE NOTIFIED THE BOARD, WE INVITED THE PROPERTY, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER TO APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD, AND THEY DID, UM, THE BOARD ISSUED SOME GENERAL COMMENTS AND ALSO GAVE DIRECTION IF THE BUILDING COULD NOT BE SAVED, THAT ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE INSPIRED BY THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING BUILDING, SPECIFICALLY THAT CORNER FEATURE.

UM, SO THAT'S GENERALLY THE HISTORY.

UM, THE BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED.

IT WAS DEMOLISHED IN APRIL OF 2024, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SHOULD BE FILED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF THAT ORDER, WHICH THEY DID.

UM, AND THEY ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR AND AFTER THE FACT APPROVAL FOR THE DEMOLITION.

NOW, IN OUR, IN THE RESILIENCY CODE, WE HAVE PRESUMPTIONS WHEN A SITUATION LIKE THIS OCCURS WHEN A BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED PRIOR TO THE, UM, BOARD'S REVIEW, THE FIRST PRESUMPTION IS THAT ANY, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE A REPLICATION OR A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO REBUT THAT, AND THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA.

UH, THE FIRST CRITERIA IS, NUMBER ONE, A FULL REPLICATION OR CONTEMPORARY DEPICTION IS NOT REQUIRED TO UNDERSTAND AND INTERPRET THE PROPERTY'S HISTORICAL VALUE.

NUMBER TWO, OTHER PROPERTIES WITH THE SAME ASSOCIATED VALUE HAVE SURVIVED.

NUMBER THREE, SUFFICIENT HISTORICAL DOCUMENTATION DOES NOT EXIST TO ENSURE AN ACCURATE REPRODUCTION.

SO IF ANY OF THESE ARE TRUE, THEN THE BOARD CAN ACCEPT THE REBUTTAL OF THE APPLICANT AND NOT REQUIRE THE RECONSTRUCTION.

STAFF HAS FOUND IN OUR ANALYSIS, UM, THAT A RECONSTRUCTION WE DO NOT RECOMMEND A RECONSTRUCTION IS WARRANTED.

UM, NUMBER ONE, THERE ARE THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS WITH THE ALMOST IDENTICAL DESIGN THAT ARE SURVIVING TODAY.

UM, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE IN NORTH BEACH.

ONE OF THEM, UH, ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE THIS BOARD SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR A RENOVATION IN A NEW ADDITION.

SO STAFF, UM, DOES NOT BELIEVE A REPLICATION IS WARRANTED.

THE SECOND PRESUMPTION, UM, IS THAT THE NEW STRUCTURE BE LIMITED TO THE HEIGHT, MASSING, AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING BUILDING.

THIS, UM, PRESUMPTION MAY ALSO BE REBUTTED IF, NUMBER ONE, THE PROPOSED NEW STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONTACT AND CONTEXT AND CHARACTER OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

AND NUMBER TWO, THE PROPERTY OWNER MADE A REASONABLE EFFORT TO REGULARLY INSPECT AND MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURE FREE OF STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH A MINIMUM MAINTENANCE STANDARD OF THE CITY CODE.

UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT BOTH OF THESE ARE SATISFIED.

UM, WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT WITH THE NEW, WITH THE SECOND APPLICATION, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE CONTEXT AND CHARACTER COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEW STRUCTURE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD NOTE THAT THIS CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY ALMOST 10 YEARS AFTER THESE SERIOUS VIOLATIONS, UM, HAD BEEN LANGUISHING.

AND SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE NEW OWNER HAS DONE EVERYTHING, UM, IN, IN HIS AUTHORITY TO COME UP WITH A,

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A PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, AND THAT IS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION.

SO WE ARE ARE RECOMMENDING A, A THAT THE DEMOLITION BE APPROVED.

UM, WITH REGARD TO THE NEW STRUCTURE, UM, STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE BUILDING IS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

UM, WE DO APPRECIATE THAT THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, UH, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN A MANNER WHICH WE BELIEVE DOES, UH, RESPECT THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE GLASS CORNER.

UM, IT IS A CONTEMPORARY STRUCTURE, WHICH WE, WE ARE ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF.

WE DON'T WANT TO REPLICATE OR CONFUSE ANYONE TO THINK IT'S AN, A HISTORIC BUILDING.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT, UM, AND THE CREATIVITY OF THE ARCHITECT TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS CLEARLY A BUILDING OF TODAY, BUT ALSO RESPECTS THE, UH, HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

WE DO HAVE A FEW, UM, CONCERNS.

ONE IS WITH REGARD TO, UM, SOME OF THE PAVING ON THE SITE, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE DRIVEWAY, WE'RE ASKING THAT THAT BE REDUCED FROM 18 FEET TO 12 FEET.

UM, THERE ARE ALSO, WE BELIEVE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF WALKWAYS, UM, WHICH WOULD LIMIT ANY GREEN SPACE OR LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDE YARDS.

SO WE WERE ASKING, UH, FOR THAT TO BE, UH, REDUCED.

UM, WE WERE ALSO ASKING FOR THE SOUTH ELEVATION TO BE FURTHER REFINED TO HELP BREAK DOWN THE SCALE AND SUBDUE THE VERTICAL, UH, ATTENUATION OF THAT ELEVATION.

AT THE FOURTH LEVEL, WE ARE REQUESTING THE ELIMINATION OF THE DECORATIVE COLUMN AND BEAM STRUCTURE.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT ADDS UNNECESSARY MASS TO THE, TO THE DESIGN.

UM, FINALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER RELATED TO THE HEIGHT OF THE COVERED PARKING AT THE GROUND LEVEL.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES A MINIMUM 12 FEET CLEAR ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS ONE.

SO THAT WOULD BE 12 FEET ABOVE NINE.

UH, THIS REQUIREMENT MAY BE WAIVED BY THE BOARD FOR UP TO TWO FEET.

UM, AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAIVER HELPS ENSURE GREATER COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT STRUCTURES, WHICH ARE NOT ELEVATED TO BASE FLOOD PLUS FREIGHT BOARD.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, FOR DEBBIE ABOUT THIS? YES, PLEASE.

NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

UH, JUST A, I NOTICED A TYPO, THE SECOND VIOLATION, IT SAYS IT'S IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, AND THAT WAS 2014? THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU, DEBBIE, JUST A QUESTION ON THE UNSAFE, YOU KNOW, THE UNSAFE STRUCTURES VIOLATIONS THAT, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE SUMMARY, THERE ALL PREDATES ANY OF THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION ON, ON SAFE STRUCTURES AND DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT AT ALL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

YEAH, AND I MAYBE YOU CAN EITHER GO ABOUT THIS NOW OR LATER WHEN TALK ABOUT, MAYBE MORE SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN, HOW YOU KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE, THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO SEE IN THE, IN THE FLOOR PLAN, THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN, PARTICULARLY WITH THE INCREASED LANDSCAPE, WHAT THAT MIGHT.

SO, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I THINK, UH, WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO OUR COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, A COUPLE DAYS AGO.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT TODAY.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE A HANDOUT FOR THE BOARD, UM, IN RESPONSE TO OUR COMMENTS.

OKAY, PERFECT.

PERFECT.

ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A PRESENTATION? SURE.

MIDBLOCK BETWEEN 15TH AND 16TH STREET ON LENNOX AVENUE AND MICHIGAN AVENUE.

GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL OPOLIS, UH, 200 SOUTH PISCA BOULEVARD, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND, UH, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, ALI DADONE OF M AND E 37 31 AND 1622 CAPITAL.

WE ARE JOINED TODAY BY OUR, UH, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, YUSEF HASHEM OF YHCE, AS WELL AS STEVE TICOFF, AN ARCHITECT AND HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST, UH, WHO ASSISTED US WITH THIS PROJECT.

THE, UH, PROPERTY'S LOCATED ON

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UH, THE PROPERTY FRONTS, UH, LENNOX AVENUE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.

THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BY LEONARD GLASSER IN 1950 AND CONSISTED OF A SIX UNIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

THE FIRST FLOOR, OR SORRY, THE, THE AREA FRONTING LENOX AVENUE WAS A TWO STORY BUILDING, UH, WHICH DEBBIE HAD MENTIONED, UH, WAS, WAS, UM, ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING IS A, UH, ONE STORY BUILDING.

UH, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATION, UH, OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR DEMOLITION.

THE PROPERTY HISTORY, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WAS ACQUIRED MOSTLY IN 2022 AND 2023.

UM, THERE WERE UNSAFE STRUCTURE VIOLATIONS DATING BACK TO 2012.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THERE WERE, UH, SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE 2023 BOARD MEETING.

AND AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION ORDERED WAS, WAS ORDERED ON ON APRIL 17TH.

UH, AS YOU'LL HEAR SHORTLY FROM YUSEF HASHEM, HE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH HIS FINDINGS OF THE STRUCTURAL, UH, REPORT THAT HE PREPARED.

I THINK GOOD MORNING, UH, YUSEF HASH, UH, 99 NORTHWEST, 27TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.

UH, SO THE CLIENT HIRED US TO GO DO AN INSPECTION ON THE PROPERTY OF, UH, APRIL THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, WHEN WE WENT INTO THE, THE STRUCTURE, WE NOTICED, UH, TREMENDOUS, UH, AMOUNT OF DAMAGE.

UH, SOME OF IT IS MANMADE, SOME OF IT IS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL DUE TO, UH, MOISTURE INTRUSION TO THE PROPERTY, UH, DUE TERMITE, UH, ACTION AND JUST PLAIN, UH, WET AND DRY.

UH, HERE WHAT YOU SEE ARE PICTURES ARE, UH, OF THE LOAD BEARING STUD WALLS, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

UH, MORE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE, THE, THE LOAD BEARING CAPACITY IS, IS GONE.

THERE IS NOTHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE, THE FLOOR AND THE ROOF IN THAT, ON THAT STRUCTURE JUST HELD BY GLUE AND, AND, AND SHEATHING, BASICALLY.

UH, AND YOU SEE DAMAGE TO THE DECKING OF, OF THE, UH, SECOND FLOORS.

THERE BEEN SOME REPAIRS DONE, BUT, UH, NOT QUITE ENOUGH.

UH, SAME THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN CULPRIT IS WATER DAMAGE, THE WATER INTRUSION COMING THROUGH THE, THE FAILED ROOF, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING.

JUST A LOT OF WATER COMING IN AND, AND, UH, DOING ITS THING ON THE WOOD.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND, UH, WE TRIED TO SEE, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN STAND.

AND THAT'S JUST, UH, THE WHOLE INTERIOR, THE WHOLE INTERIOR, UH, LOAD BEARING CAPACITY OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE IS, IS JUST ZERO.

UH, AS, UM, AS WE TAKE A LOOK HERE THAT SHOWS THIS DRAWING SHOWS THE TWO STORY, UH, UNIT AT THE FRONT WITH A DOUBLE HEIGHT SPACE OF THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER STAIRS LEADING TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE STEVE OV HE WAS, OR HE IS THE ARCHITECT AND HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST.

UH, BASED ON COMMENTS WE RECEIVED AND FEEDBACK FROM THE 2023 MEETING, WE PREPARED A HISTORIC, UH, RES, UH, RESOURCES REPORT, WHICH ADEQUATELY DOCUMENTS THE ENTIRE BUILDING, INCLUDING AS-BUILTS AND DIMENSIONS YOU WANNA DO? YEAH.

UH, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

UH, BOARD MEMBERS STAFF, PLEASURE TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU AGAIN.

STEVE ABCO, PRINCIPAL AND FOUNDER, HERITAGE ARCHITECTURAL ASSOCIATES, 4,300 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.

WE WERE RETAINED TO PUT TOGETHER, UH, HISTORIC DOCUMENTATION FOR THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE HISTORIC RESOURCES, REPORT AND MEASURE DRAWINGS OF THE EXTERIOR AND PHOTOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTATION OF THE INTERIOR CONDITIONS.

THIS IS, UH, A SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE.

THE FIRST OF ALL, THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED BY LEONARD GLASSER, WHO PRACTICED, UH, STRICTLY IN POST-WAR MODERN STYLE ARCHITECTURE.

HE WAS PROLIFIC IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND IN, IN THE MIM O DESIGN OF WHICH THIS BUILDING IS AN EXAMPLE WE MENTIONED SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT FEATURES INCLUDE THE TWO STORY, UH, BANK OF OWNING WINDOWS AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH REFLECT THE DOUBLE HEIGHT SPACE OF THE INTERIOR THERE, ALONG WITH A EVE, WHICH HAS A CURVED SOFFIT.

SO IT'S CLEARLY A BUILDING, AND HE WAS PROLIFIC AS AN ARCHITECT IN THAT VERNACULAR.

THIS THIS DOC, UH, DOCUMENT SHOWS THE SITE PLAN ORIGINALLY IN 1950.

THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED TO BE TWO STORIES ALL THROUGHOUT WITH, WITH 10 UNITS.

THE DESIGN WAS MODIFIED IN 1951 TO BE REDUCED TO SIX UNITS, WHERE THE TWO STORY COMPONENT WAS JUST FRONTING LENNOX.

ONE STORY WAS THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE.

UH, THE REAR UNITS WERE ACCESSED ALONG A WALKWAY, PRIMARILY TO THE NORTH, WHERE THE, THE WESTERN UNIT WAS ACCESSED FROM LENNOX.

THIS DEPICTED IN THIS SITE DIAGRAM.

NEXT, PLEASE.

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UH, THERE WAS AN ADDITION AT THAT LEVEL IN THE 1960S, WHICH WAS PERMITTED, WHICH CAPTURED SOME SPACE ABOVE UNIT TWO.

BUT YOU CAN SEE REALLY THIS IS MOSTLY ONE STORY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WESTERN FRONTAGE THERE OF UNIT ONE.

NEXT, UH, THIS DRAWING THAT DEPICTS THE ROOF PLAN, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE TWO STORY LOW SLOPE HIP ROOF AT THE FRONT, A ONE STORY DECK THAT'S FLANKED BY A FOUR FOOT HIGH, UH, LAR MASONRY PARAPET WALL.

AND THEN, UM, THE ONE STORY LOW SLOPE HIP ROOF TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY NEXT.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE INTERIOR DOCUMENTATION.

WHAT WE DID, WE DID AS, AS, AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITH PHOTOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTATION.

WE HAVE PHOTO KEY PLANS THAT DEPICT WHERE THE PHOTOS ARE TAKEN.

THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF UNIT ONE.

UM, THE IMAGES AT THE TOP, THE PHOTOS THERE SHOW, UH, THE TWO STORY SPACE, THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER, THERE WAS SOME DECORATIVE CHECKERBOARD PATTERN IN THE FLOORING THAT APPEARED TO BE MARBLE STAED WITH ORNAMENTAL METAL RAILINGS GOING UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL.

AND BELOW THAT, UH, THE IMAGES BELOW THAT SHOW THE SECOND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF UNIT NUMBER ONE.

NEXT, PLEASE.

UH, THESE ARE UNITS NUMBER TWO AND THREE.

YOU CAN SEE THE NATURE OF THE INTERIOR.

I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY RAW, I MEAN, TAKE TAKEN DOWN THE STUD.

SO THERE REALLY WAS NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT WE COULD DOCUMENT OTHER THAN THE, UM, THOSE CONDITIONS.

NEXT, PLEASE, UH, NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE, THESE SHOW THE TYPICAL INTERIOR RESIDENTIAL FEATURES.

THERE WERE SOME KITCHENS.

KITCHENS WERE MODIFIED IN 1960S.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT, UH, MODIFICATIONS ALONG THE WAY AFTERWARDS AND RENOVATIONS, BUT MOST OF THE PERMITTED WORK CERTAINLY WAS COMPLETED BY THE 1960S, BUT JUST PROVIDING A SENSE OF THE ONE STORY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER THERE.

NEXT, PLEASE AND THE, AND THE REAR UNIT NUMBER SIX, VERY SIMILAR TO FOUR AND FIVE.

NEXT PLEASE.

SO WHAT WE DID FOR THE EXTERIOR, TO PROVIDE SOME RECORD OF THIS BUILDING GOING FORWARD, WE DID MEASURE THE EXTERIOR.

WE PUT TOGETHER EXISTING CONDITIONS, DRAWINGS.

THE DRAWING TO THE TOP IS THE PRIMARY FACADE.

YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTERISTIC FEATURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE BANDED WIND, THE BANK OF TWO STORY AWNING WINDOWS THAT ARE, UH, FRAMED BY THAT, UH, CONCRETE EYEBROW.

VERY TYPICAL FEATURE OF MIMO.

AND THAT TURNS THE CORNER AS YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM DRAWING THERE, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN FACADE.

THAT DRAWING REALLY DEPICTS HOW THIS BUILDING STEPS DOWN FROM THE TWO STORY, UH, PRIMARY FOCUS ALONG LENNOX DOWN TO THE, TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

BUT THIS FACADE SHOWS THAT THE ENTRANCE IS ALONG THE NORTHERN PART OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WHERE THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINTS TO THE REAR UNITS.

NEXT PLEASE.

AND FINALLY, THE, THE DRAWING THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SECONDARY FEATURES, THE EASTERN FACADE OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, THE TOP AND THE SOUTHERN FACADE DRAWINGS, UH, WHICH WERE THE SECONDARY FACADES OF THOSE REAR UNITS, WHICH JUST HAD INDIVIDUAL DOORS AND PUNCHED OPENINGS THERE.

SO WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE RECORD.

UH, THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

SO, UM, I WAS GONNA ASK, UH, DEBBIE OR NICK, SHOULD WE CONSIDER THIS AS YOU PRESENTED IT AS ONE YOU PRESENTED? BOTH SHOULD.

DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE RESPOND TO THIS AS IT'S ITS OWN APPLICATION AND HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEN VOTE ON THIS AND THEN GO ON TO THE SECOND? SO WE CALLED BOTH FILES TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE HEARING ON BOTH APPLICATIONS.

GOT IT.

YOU MAY TAKE, UH, SEPARATE VOTES IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, OR YOU COULD, UH, APPROVE BOTH, UH, ON ONE VOTE.

M AND E, 37 31 AND 1622 CAPITAL.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION ON THE DEMOLITION TO REVIEW THE NEW, UH, PROPOSED STRUCTURE BECAUSE THAT PREEMPTION OR THAT PRESUMPTION HAS SOMETHING ABOUT IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR COMPATIBLE WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

SO, OKAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THEM TO PRESENT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

UM, THEY KNEW SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'LL HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF THE SECOND ONE.

BUT FIRST, BEFORE WE START THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION? MM-HMM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS ONE SCREEN PERFECT.

GOOD MORNING AGAIN.

MIKE OPOLIS, 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, UM, HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, ALI DADONE OF, UM, 37

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UH, WE ARE JOINED TODAY BY KOBE KARP, THE ARCHITECT VINCENT ZI, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, LANGAN, MYSELF AND OF COURSE OUR COLLEAGUE, WHO YOU MIGHT KNOW, MICHAEL LARKIN.

UH, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED BETWEEN 15TH AND 16TH STREET ON LENNOX AVENUE AND MICHIGAN AVENUE.

THE PROPERTY'S FRONTING LENNOX AVENUE.

UH, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED IN THE FLAMINGO PARK, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE MIAMI BEACH NATIONAL REGISTER ARCHITECTURE DISTRICT.

UH, THE PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY LOW INTENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH.

ANY MORE INTENSE, UH, USE TO THE WEST, WHICH CONSISTS OF LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.

WE ARE PROPOSING A SIX UNIT RESIDENTIAL, UH, BUILDING IN A TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH AN UNDERSTORY TO REPLACE A PREVIOUS BUILDING.

UH, NOTABLY IT'S THE SAME DENSITY AS THE BUILDING THAT EXISTED.

UH, WE ARE PROVIDING SIX PARKING LOTS, I'M SORRY, SIX PARKING SPACES.

UM, AND THE UNDERSTORY WAS DESIGNED TO ENSURE A, UH, SUSTAINABLE BUILDING FOR DECADES TO COME.

WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR DESIGN AND WAIVER OF AN UNDERSTORY HEIGHT.

WE ARE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE UNDERSTORY HEIGHT FROM 12 FEET TO 10 FEET, UH, EIGHT INCHES TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE EXISTING CONDITIONS TODAY ARE, IT'S A VACANT 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

UM, AND UNIMPROVED.

WE DISCUSSED THE PROPERTY HISTORY PREVIOUSLY, BUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE BOARD ON THE SCREEN IS THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.

AND I WANT TO NOTE THIS BECAUSE ONE OF THE DESIGN FEATURES IS A TWO STORY DOUBLE HEIGHT, UH, WINDOW THAT IS ON THE NORTHWEST FACADE AND WRAPS AROUND TO THE NORTH FACADE.

UM, THE ARCHITECT AND THE DESIGN TEAM, UH, AS WELL AS THE OWNERSHIP WORKED VERY HARD TO REPLICATE THIS AND INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE NEW DESIGN, AS YOU WILL SEE, UH, DURING KOBE'S PRESENTATION.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

UH, KOBE CO FOR THE RECORD, UH, IF I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF I CAN FIND A HAND SPEAKER AND JUST WALK OVER THERE TO THE BOARDS AND SHOW YOU SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, THE COMMENTS.

I'VE RECEIVED THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, DEBBIE AND STAFF, AND WE AGREE WITH, UM, ALL THE COMMENTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED INTO THE PROJECT.

UM, RIGHT THERE, THE BOARDS ON TOP ARE THE UPDATED IMAGES, UM, BASICALLY DELETING THE BEAM AND SO FORTH THAT WE HAD ON TOP.

ALSO, FURTHERMORE, WHAT WE DID, THERE'S A LANDSCAPE PLAN HERE.

CAN I, CAN I ASK IF WE HAVE A MOBILE MICROPHONE SOMEWHERE? HERE WE GO.

SO THAT'S THE IMAGE BEFORE, AND UM, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT RID OF.

UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT IMAGE, PLEASE.

THAT'S, UM, AGAIN, THE FLOATING, UM, ELEMENT ON TOP THAT WE GOT RID OF.

AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IN THE ARCHITECTURE WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, STEVE AND WITH STAFF IN THAT WE HAVE THE CORNER, UM, GLASS ON THE WEST NORTHWEST CORNER AND TAKING A CONTEMPORARY FRAME.

UM, THAT WAS, UM, ORIGINALLY, UM, PROVIDED THERE.

AND THEN IF YOU ALSO, UM, BE KIND ENOUGH TO GO TO THE NEXT IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AND I HAVE IT HERE FROM THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WHICH IMPLEMENTS ALL, UH, ALL OF DEBBIE'S UH, COMMENTS.

SO THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTS THE COMET.

UM, THIS IS THE IMAGE WHERE WE GOT RID OF THE FLOATING ELEMENTS.

UM, AND ALSO WE WERE REQUIRED TO SHOW CLEARLY WHERE THE MECHANICAL AND THE SCREENING IS.

WE HAVE A MATERIAL SAMPLE BOARD, I'LL PUT IT HERE SO IT'S EASIER TO SEE.

AND, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UH, ALL THE COLORS AND ALL THE ELEVATIONS AND ALL THE MATERIALS ARE SPECIFIED.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE CORNER, UM, THAT WE, AND THE FRAME THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH, WITH STAFF TO USE THE DNA, UH, THE TYPOLOGY THAT WAS, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, ON THE SITE.

UH, BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU START AWAY, OF COURSE, JUST 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE, THE WALK AWAY, CAN YOU WALK US MORE SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE, UM, THE PLAN YES.

AND HOW YOU MODIFIED IT? YES.

SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT WE'RE ON LENNOX AVENUE BETWEEN 15 AND 16, AND ACROSS THE STREET IS THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, WHICH IS REALLY THE FP AND L

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SUBSTATION.

AND WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE CREATED A VEHICULAR PATH WITH, THE REQUIREMENT WAS TO MAKE IT ONLY 12 FEET AND INCREASE THE LANDSCAPING ALL THE WAY AROUND.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN THAT ALLOWED US TO HAVE A GREATER SETBACK FROM THE EAST, FROM THE REAR.

AND THAT ALSO ALLOWED US TO CREATE MORE OF A TROPICAL FEELING BECAUSE SOME OF, BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY SIX UNITS, THERE WERE SIX UNITS THERE BEFORE, THERE'S SIX UNITS THERE NOW THREE AND THREE.

SO MOST FOLKS WHO LIVE HERE WILL PROBABLY WALK ALONG THE GARDEN, ALONG THE, UM, LANDSCAPING AND THEN BE ABLE TO ASCEND UP THE STAIRCASE TO THEIR APARTMENTS ON THE FIRST OR SECOND FLOOR.

AND THEN WE ALSO CREATED A POOL, A MINI TEA AREA ON THE ROOFTOP, UM, FOR THE UNIT OWNERS.

UM, CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE STILL UP PLEASE? UM, THERE ARE FIVE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE FIVE PARKING SPACES.

ARE THERE SIX UNITS AND FIVE SPACES OR THAT'S ANOTHER SPACE? YES.

SIX UNITS, SIX UNITS AND FIVE AND FIVE SPACES AND SIX SPACES.

SIX SPACES.

WELL, SINCE I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF KOBE WHILE HE IS UP HERE? YOU DO? NO.

THE VOLUME THAT YOU SHOWED TO THE RIGHT OF THE BUILDING THAT'S KIND OF SEE THROUGH, IS THAT REPRESENTING THE EXISTING BUILDING THERE OR WHAT CAN BE BUILT NEXT TO THE BUILDING? YEAH, THE NEXT DOOR BUILDING.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION, UM, OF THE CONTEXT IN THE PACKAGE, WE HAVE, UM, ADJACENT BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

AND ONE MORE QUESTION.

THE GROUND FLOOR HEIGHT YES.

THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER? YES.

THE DRAWING REPRESENTS THE 10 FEET OR THE 12 FEET.

THE, THE DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE HAS THE 10 FEET.

10 FEET, CORRECT.

AND WE, AND WE AGREE WITH THAT.

KOBE, CAN YOU JUST TAKE US THROUGH THE, YOUR INSPIRATION ON THE EAVES? UM, YES.

I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND.

SURE.

THAT FORM, AND I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF THAT FORM LATELY AROUND THE BEACH PROBABLY, UH, THANKS TO YOU.

BUT, UH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS LIKE HOW YOU REINTERPRETED THAT.

AND, AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT, THE CHARACTERISTICS.

SURE.

SO THE CORNER GLASS IS WHAT EXISTED THERE BEFORE AND IT HAD AN EVE FRAME THAT CAME AROUND IT AND WRAPPED A CORNER.

SO WE USE THAT IN NATURAL MATERIAL.

PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WHETHER IT'S, UM, THE STONE OR THE WOOD OR WE'RE LOOKING TO USE MORE VERNACULAR MATERIALS.

UM, AND SO THIS DESIGN, WHICH IS WILL BE A CONDOMINIUM, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS USE THE ORIGINAL ADDITION, THE TWO STORY ADDITION, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE, THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS ONE STORY TOWARDS THE BACK TOWARDS THE EAST.

USE THAT FRAME THAT WAS INTENDED AS OUR INSPIRATION FOR OUR CORNER TREATMENT, WHICH WILL BE MOST VISIBLE, VI VISIBLE MEANING WHEN YOU COME FROM LINCOLN ROAD AND YOU'RE WALKING SOUTH ALONG LENNOX, YOU WILL SEE THAT IMAGE.

AND THAT IS, UM, WHAT WE STUDIED.

FURTHERMORE, STAFF FELT THAT THE REST OF THE BUILDING SHOULD ALSO BE WITH FINISHED MATERIALS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE VERTICAL, UM, WOOD OR WE HAVE THE, UH, STONE ON IT, ON, ON ALL FACADES.

SO THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AROUND US WOULD ALSO HAVE THAT, UM, FINISHED LOOK.

AND THAT STONE IS THE TRAVER TEAM THAT'S IN THIS, UM, DECK OVER HERE, OR? YES.

ESCAL AND THEN RAY, UM, SIX PARKING SPACES.

MIKE, SHARE YOUR MICROPHONE.

PUT YOUR MIC ON PLEASE.

SORRY.

YOU HAVE SIX PARKING SPACES, ONE OF WHICH IS HANDICAPPED.

AND YOU HAVE SIX UNITS.

DOES THAT MEET THE MINIMUM CODE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING SPACES FOR A CONDOMINIUM? YES.

WE, THAT'S WHAT IT, IT MEETS, YES, WE COULD ACTUALLY, IF WE WANTED TO PUT LIFTERS IN THERE, BUT WE DECIDED THAT SIX SPACES ARE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT.

AND ALSO STAFF HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE VISIBILITY AND THE SCREENING AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE DECORATIVE WALL THAT WE HAVE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

READY? KOBE, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU'VE MAINTAINED THE CORNER WITH THE GLASS, BUT IN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING YOU HAD LIKE, IT WAS ALL TWO FLOORS OF GLASS.

AND YOU'VE CUT IT OFF WITH THE BALCONY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'D ALMOST LIKE TO SEE IT CUT BACK.

THE BALCONY MADE SMALLER AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE TWO FLOORS OF GLASS THERE.

, IT SORT OF CUT IT OFF.

AND TO ME THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

ALRIGHT, UM, I SHOULD ASK IF YOU, UM, 'CAUSE WE KIND OF JUMPED IN THERE.

, I CAN STUDY THAT.

SORRY.

THANK YOU RAY .

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS?

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DO YOU HAVE MORE TO PRESENT OR NO, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE MET WITH, UH, MIAMI-DADE PRESERVATION LEAGUE AS WELL AS THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND BOTH RECOMMENDED, UH, OUR PROJECT FOR APPROVAL.

UM, THERE WAS A CONDITION, I BELIEVE IN THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO LEASES LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AND ONE DAY, WHICH WE AGREE WITH.

UM, SHOULD WE DO BOARD DISCLOSURES OR DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR THAT.

YEAH, JUST ONE THING FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO WE, UM, AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE RESPONSE TO STAFF'S COMMENTS.

THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WERE FULLY ADDRESSED.

UM, THE FIRST, WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IS THE, UH, LONG-TERM BICYCLE PARKING WITHIN THE REQUIRED WITHIN THE FRONT YARD.

UM, WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE ELIMINATED.

IT IS PERMITTED WITHIN A REQUIRED YARD, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PROJECT MORE THAN 25% OF THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.

SO AS OF NOW, CURRENTLY SHOWN IN THE PLANS, IT WOULD NOT BE PER PERMITTED WITHOUT A VARIANCE.

BECAUSE IT'S PROJECTING MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

UM, SO I JUST WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAD A TIME TO LOOK AT THAT COMMENT AS WELL AND HAVE ANY RESPONSE.

AND THEN THE SECOND COMMENT WAS WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, SOUTH FACADE DESIGN, UM, PARTICULARLY ONCE YOU GET CLOSER TO LENNOX, THAT THAT KIND OF BLANK, EVEN THOUGH IT IS, UH, HAS A MATERIALITY TO IT, UH, WILL BE VERY VISIBLE.

AND WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE BROKEN UP, UM, POTENTIALLY WITH SOME HORIZONTAL, UM, ATTENUATION OR HORIZONTAL FEATURES JUST TO BREAK THAT, THAT LARGE VERTICAL SURFACE UP A BIT.

SO COLBY, DID YOU TAKE A LOOK AT EITHER OF THOSE? YES, AND WE AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS TO IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL HORIZONTALS ON THE SOUTH FACADE, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKING WITHIN THE SETBACKS.

UM, AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE A SOLUTION TO BE SENT TO YOU FROM, UH, US THIS WEEK.

IF NOT, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND BEG FOR VARIANCE, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE DO NOT NEED TO DO.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SEE, UM, UH, THE PARKING, THE PLAN WHERE THE, DO YOU ALL KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE THE BICYCLE PARKING IS NOW AND WHERE IT'S PROPOSED? COULD YOU PUT THAT BACK UP JUST TO, JUST TO SHOW US, UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES.

UH, SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, THE TOP LEFT BUILDING WAS THE BUILDING WE SUBMITTED WITH THE ROOFTOP DECORATIVE BEAM, UM, AND COLUMN THAT WAS ELIMINATED, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE, UH, WE FELT THAT BECAUSE OF THE ELIMINATION IT IMPROVED THE, AND REDUCED THE SCALING AND MASSING OF THE CELL FACADE.

AND, AND DEBBIE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT BEING ADMINISTRATIVELY? WELL I THINK THAT THE, I THINK THAT PINTEREST, THAT VERTICAL WALL THAT BARELY HAS ANY FENESTRATION AT ALL SHOULD STILL BE FURTHER REFINED AND BROKEN UP IN A HORIZONTAL MANNER TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH, UM, THE TEAM ADMINISTRATIVELY ON, ON MAKING SOME SUBTLE BREAKS IN THAT FACADE.

YOU MEAN THE WALL WHERE THE ARROW IS ON THE YES.

MM-HMM, BRIAN, DID YOU WAIT JUST TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE WALL TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE THE ARROW WAS ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THAT RIGHT THERE WHERE HE'S MOVING HIS MOUSE, WHERE KOBE IS.

OH, THAT WALL.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF TO BREAK THAT, THAT WALL UP A BIT.

SO YOU WANT SOME HORIZONTALITY IN THAT, I GUESS? YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, WALKING AROUND FLAMINGO PARK, YOU DON'T TYPICALLY SEE A BLANK GIANT 30 FOOT EXPENSE LIKE THAT.

SO I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT YEAH, THE PARK.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PLAN.

IF YOU CAN USE THE CURSOR SOMEHOW TO, UH, POINT OUT WHERE THAT IS FOR FOLKS.

SO ON THE SCREEN, THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN, UH, FROM BEFORE.

SO THIS, WE INCORPORATED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND REDUCE THE DRIVEWAY FROM LENNOX TO THE PARKING FROM 18 FEET TO 12 FEET.

THE LONG-TERM BICYCLE PARKING IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M CIRCLING.

AND THAT WAS PLACED THERE PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM STAFF THAT THEY HAD WANTED AN ACTIVE, UH, FRONTAGE ALONG LENNOX.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WE PLACED IT THERE AND, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH THE TEAM, UH, TO, TO MOVE IT.

THAT PARKS BIKES ON SIDEWALKS IN PARKING SPACES ON THE STREET AND ALL OF THAT.

RAY, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE HOOPLA OF THE BICYCLE PARKING.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE CITY BIKE

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IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WAY THEY HAVE THIS LAID OUT.

IT DID YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT TOO? IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THEY NEED A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO DO IT THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO AND THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE APPLICATION.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S TOO FAR.

THEY NEED A VARIANCE WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY ON THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT, IT'S ONLY, IT, IT'S ONLY PERMITTED TO ENCROACH.

THE FRONT SETBACK IS 20 FEET, THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK, THE LONG TERM, AND THIS IS LONG TERM BICYCLE PARKING, NOT LIKE A BIKE RACK OR YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

OH, IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT WAS A BIKE RACK, IT WOULD BE OKAY.

BIKE RACKS WOULD, IT WOULD BE MUCH DIFFERENT.

THIS HAS TO BE A COVERED STORAGE AREA.

AND I, THAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE MY QUESTION FOR LONG TERM.

SO THIS IS PERMITTED TO ENCROACH ONLY FIVE FEET FROM THE, THE SUSPECT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.

OKAY, YOU'RE WELCOME.

I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE LONG TERM BIKE PARKING, WHETHER IT WAS WHAT SHE'S DESCRIBING OR WHETHER IT WAS A, A BIKE RACK AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE SECURED.

'CAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S AN ISSUE, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAD THE ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT THE BICYCLES.

UM, IN, IN THE, ON THAT LOCATION, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE, AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE.

WITHIN THE COVERED GARAGE OF, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

WITH OUR ENGINEERS.

UM, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, WE'LL ASK FOR BOARD DISCLOSURES.

UH, I WAS AT THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST NIGHT WHERE THEY PRESENTED, THAT'S IT.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

UM, PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

ANYONE IN IN CHAMBERS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I, MR. CHAIR I SEE ON ZOOM WE HAVE, UH, DANIEL ERALDO.

GOOD MORNING, DANIEL.

DANIEL, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEMBERS, DANIEL ERALDO.

I'M ACTUALLY CALLING YOU FROM ANOTHER LEONARD GLASSER BUILDING, WHICH IS THE ATECH OF WELCOME CENTER WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING OUR HENRY HOER EXHIBIT.

SO, I'M SORRY I CAN'T BE THERE IN PERSON, BUT OUR ADVOCACY COMMITTEE DID REVIEW THIS PROJECT AND WE THANK THE APPLICANTS FOR REVIEWING THE DESIGNS AND OUR CONCERNS AND WE SUPPORT THE OVERALL PROJECT.

UM, WE THINK THAT THE REFERENCE TO THE PRIOR HISTORIC BUILDING THROUGH THE USE OF THE CORNER WINDOWS AND SOME OF THE OTHER VOCABULARY IS DISTINCT, BUT ALSO COMPATIBLE.

WE ALSO DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE WAIVER TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE UNDERSTORY.

AND I WANT TO POINT PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THAT.

I THINK ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, A LOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE IN THE ZONING.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION, EVEN WITH THE WAIVER, YOU KNOW, THESE UNDERST STORIES, UH, WHICH ARE ALREADY, I THINK THE, THE BASE STARTS THREE FEET ABOVE THE ROAD.

UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING, YOU KNOW, UH, MEGA TRUCKS UNDERNEATH THESE BUILDINGS.

SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO REALLY REFINE OUR ZONING CODE AND WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT WAIVER TO MAKE THE UNDERSTORY MORE OF A REALISTIC HEIGHT.

STILL RESILIENT, BUT, BUT DEFINITELY MORE COMPATIBLE.

FINALLY, WE DO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND BEYOND.

AND, UH, WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE NOT HAPPY THAT IT HAPPENED HERE, BUT GIVEN THE NEW DESIGN AND THE COMPATIBILITY, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THANK YOU DANIEL.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHANN MOORE.

GOOD MORNING, JOHANN.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.

CAR-FREE LIFESTYLE IN OUR VERY PEDESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND POSSIBLY ELIMINATING ONE OF THOSE COVERED PARKING SPACES, UH, COULD PROVIDE FOR BIKE UH, STORAGE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, CHAIR AND DEAR STAFF.

UH, I ACTUALLY AM IN THE MEETING TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT A LATER MATTER AS A, AS A RESIDENT, BUT I WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS, UH, AS A, AS A MEMBER OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ITS INSISTENCE THAT, UH, PROPER LANDSCAPING IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF MAINTAINING, CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS, UH, FOR ANY ONE OF A NUMBER OF REASONS INCLUDING, UH, BEGINNING TO MITIGATE POSSIBLY INFERIOR LEVELS OF INSULATION AND SUCH.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

UH, MY OTHER CONCERN, UH, IS THAT, UH, MAYBE THERE DON'T NEED TO BE, UH, SIX PARKING SPACES IN LIGHT OF RECENT INCENTIVES TO, UH, A MORE

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MY FINAL COMMENT, NOT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT AS A MEMBER, UH, I'M, UH, CERTAIN THAT, UH, STAFF AND THE BOARD ARE KEEPING IN MIND THE POSSIBLE ALAS EVENTUAL NEED, UH, FOR WHOLESALE ELEVATION OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT, DEPENDING ON SEA LEVEL RISE.

UH, AND THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN WITH REDUCING THE PARKING HEIGHT FROM 12 FEET TO 10.8 I THINK IT WAS.

UH, ARE WE IN FACT, KEEPING IN MIND THE FACT THAT WE MAY NEED TO ELEVATE BUILDINGS IN THE FUTURE? IN LOOKING AT THE DESIGN, I SEE THAT THAT LOWER SPACE POTENTIALLY COULD BE SACRIFICED.

AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? IN CASE OF SOME DRASTIC AND ABRUPT SEA LEVEL RISE? UH, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT LONG-TERM THOUGHT IN THE BOARD'S, UH, MIND.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JOHANN.

UH, MR. CHAIR.

I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT THE, ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.

NO.

OKAY, WELL, WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.

UM, I'LL JUST GO UP THE LINE HERE AND, UM, START WITH RAY, IF YOU'D LIKE FOR THIS ONE.

LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THIS.

MY ONLY COMMENT WAS WHAT I MADE BEFORE REGARDING THE BALCONY NOT GOING IN FRONT OF THE CORNER WINDOW TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE LIKE A TWO STORY WINDOW.

SO, UM, JUST LET'S, LET'S GO THROUGH THESE AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP GOING.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RAY.

THAT WAS IT.

LAURA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I REALLY THINK YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE DESIGN.

I CLEARLY SEE THE, THE, UM, REFERENCES AND, UM, NOD TO THE HISTORIC ARCHITECT AND, UM, HIS PREVIOUS WORK.

UM, I, I DO THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT ON A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LADEN MIAMI BEACH.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE A A SIX UNIT, NOT OVERDEVELOPED OVER DESIGNED, UM, STRUCTURE.

IT JUST KIND OF, UM, FITS CONTEXTUALLY.

SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND ALSO APPRECIATE THE EFFICIENCY WITH ADDRESSING SOME OF THE STAFF CONCERNS, WHICH, UM, YOU GUYS ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST CONCERNS.

UM, SO, AND REALLY THANK YOU TO THE, UM, THE OWNERS FOR THEIR INVESTMENT IN THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.

THANK YOU, ASCO.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT LAURA SAID.

I THINK IT'S A VERY ELEGANT DESIGN THAT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I APPLAUD THE OWNERS FOR, UH, SELECTING A GREAT ARCHITECT TO, UH, DEVELOP THIS KIND OF DESIGN.

KUDOS.

UM, NO, NO CHANGE OF OPINION HERE.

I THINK IT'S, UH, TOP NOTCH.

I REALLY, UM, REALLY LOVE THE MATERIALITY, UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED AND AGREE THAT THE CONTEXT IS IS, IS RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON PAR.

UM, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF SOLUTION ON THAT QUITE EXPANSIVE WALL.

AND SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU GUYS CAN GET TO SOMETHING THAT WILL BREAK IT UP.

'CAUSE I, I THINK DEBBIE HAS A REALLY GOOD POINT ON THAT AND JUST WANNA APPLAUD THAT YOU GUYS WORKING THROUGH WITH THE CITY AND, UM, WITH US TO, TO GET TO A GOOD SOLUTION.

THAT'S ALWAYS REALLY REASSURING AND UM, FEELS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME HERE.

WHEN THE SITUATION COMES, WE'LL LOSE THE USE OF THE GROUND FLOOR.

THANK YOU ELIZABETH.

YEAH, SO I THINK YOU GOT PLENTY OF COMPLIMENTS ALREADY.

I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THEM.

NO, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DESIGN.

THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT UNEASY IS THE HEIGHT OF THE GROUND FLOOR.

AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE TEST OF TIME AND MY CONCERN IS, LET'S SAY MOVING FORWARD 10, 20 YEARS, THE STREETS HAVE RAISED BECAUSE OF FLOODING, WE NEED TO RAISE THE GROUND FLOOR UP TO AVOID THAT FLOODING AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE USE OF THAT GROUND FLOOR.

IF WE RAISE IT TOO MUCH, WE LOSE THE PARKING AND IT BECOMES ONLY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.

AND IF YOU HAVE TO RAISE EVEN MORE, YOU LOSE COMPLETELY THE GROUND FLOOR.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M A LITTLE BIT AT EASE ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHT TO ACCOMMODATE POTENTIAL FUTURE NEEDS OR JUST WE AGREE THAT

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AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OPEN UP TO OUR, TO THE BOARD AND YOU GUYS FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, THANK YOU AND UH, LINDSAY.

SO I, I WOULD PROBABLY ECHO A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID.

I REALLY, UM, APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST HERE.

UM, I'LL JUST MENTION 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT AND EVEN THOUGH THEY CAME BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THIS, UM, AND IT CAME UP LAST NIGHT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

SO I GUESS I FEEL LIKE DUTY BOUND TO MENTION IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT DEMOLITION BY, BY NEGLECT.

AND THIS IS NOT PARTICULAR TO THE THIS OWNER 'CAUSE I KNOW HE CAME IN LATER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE SMALLER CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS THAT OCCUPY FLAMINGO PARK.

UM, YOU'VE GOTTA GET SIX OWNERS ON BOARD, OR AT LEAST BOARD MEMBERS.

SOMEBODY'S GONNA TAKE THE EFFORT TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOLUTION THERE'S THAT, BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT MAYBE IT'D BE A WORTHY DISCUSSION ITEM FOR US ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

OR I, I DUNNO WHAT SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE OUT THERE FOR.

'CAUSE I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE ADVERSE TO YOUR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION BOARD, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY SAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN VOTING THEM OUT, RIGHT? UM, AND IF YOU'VE GOT A BOARD THAT DOESN'T, OR A BUILDING THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE RESERVES AND MOST OF THESE BUILDINGS DON'T, AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE THE RESERVES BASED ON THE NEW LAW, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THREE STORIES OR MORE.

SO, UM, IT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY, A WHOLE NOTHER DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

BUT I JUST KIND WANNA BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S RELEVANT HERE.

UM, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN GOES.

UM, I I REALLY LOVE THAT IT HEARKENS BACK TO, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

UM, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB, KOBE.

UM, I, I AGREE WITH STAFF COMMENTS ABOUT BREAKING UP THAT SOUTH FACADE, UM, WITH SOME SORT OF LIKE HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.

UM, I REALLY LIKE THE LONG-TERM BIKE STORAGE.

I KNOW THAT'S A, AN ISSUE TRYING TO SORT IT OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN ONE OF THESE SMALLER TYPE UNITS, WHAT DO I DO WITH MY BIKE RIGHT NOW? IT'S, IT MOVES AROUND MY APARTMENT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA PUT IT OUT ON A BIKE RACK BECAUSE IT WILL BE GONE.

UM, SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I JUST WANNA COMMENT ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS INCORPORATING THAT INTO YOUR DESIGN.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, ELEVATING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ONE BY ONE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT, UH, FIRST OF ALL THE, UM, THE FACT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING THAT'S BEING DEMOLISHED IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, HAVE TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.

SO I ALSO CONSIDER THIS TO BE AN IMPORTANT ITEM FOR US TO KEEP, UM, TO KEEP ADDRESSING AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT, UM, AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE.

UM, MAYBE THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH INCENTIVES CAN BE, CAN BE OFFERED OR OTHER, OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN, UM, HELP TO KINDA THINK COLLECTIVELY ABOUT HOW TO PRESERVE THE, THE MEMORY OF THE, OF THE PAST AND THROUGH THE HISTORIC FABRIC.

UM, SO YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO, JUST, THE FACT THAT THIS BUILDING'S BEING DEMOLISHED IS A VERY IS AND IT'S A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A VERY, IS A VERY SERIOUS THING FOR MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD.

UM, AND UM, BUT THAT SAID, I THINK THAT I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENT.

SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE PAST, THE PRESENT.

I THINK THAT THE CURRENT, UH, CURRENT PROJECT IS, UM, IS REALLY OUTSTANDING.

UH, A REALLY GREAT JOB.

KOBE, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WEST APARTMENT HAVING A BALCONY.

UM, I I I THINK MORE LIFE ON THE STREET IS BETTER.

UM, BUT, AND I DON'T THINK IT INTERRUPTS THE, THE FLOW OF THAT VERTICAL, UM, THOSE VERTICAL WINDOWS.

SO I I I AM, I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT THIS AS IT IS.

I AM, I'M DELIGHTED THAT STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE HORIZONTAL WINDOWS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, AS THEY, AS THEY HAVE.

AND I AGREE ABOUT THE, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT LARGE EXPANSE.

AND I'M ALSO REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU GOT THE, HAVE THE, THE BICYCLE, UH, THE BICYCLE RACK IN THERE AND THAT YOU HAVE THE, UM, UH, TAKEN THE ROOFTOP DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO THAT STRUCTURE ISN'T ON TOP ABOVE THE, ABOVE THE 12 FOOT VERSUS 10 FOOT EIGHT, UH, HEIGHT BELOW THE BUILDING.

I, I WAS, THERE ARE TWO, OBVIOUSLY TWO MINES.

THERE'S ONE THAT THE 12 FOOT SPACE IS A BIGGER, DARKER, DEEPER SPACE ALONGSIDE THE ROAD FOR, FOR, FOR US TO KIND OF EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE HISTORICAL FABRIC OF THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.

IT EXISTS IN OTHER BUILDING TYPES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM,

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AND, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, THAT THE, AND THAT AND TO THE POINT THAT THE, IN THE FUTURE THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE INCREMENTAL ELEVATIONS TO THE, TO THE FLOOR, TO THE, TO THE, TO THE STREET AND THEN TO THE FLOOR LEVEL UNDER THERE.

I, UM, I, I DON'T SEE THE 10 FOOT EIGHT VERSUS 12 FOOT, UM, DIFFERENCE AS BEING A, UM, A DECIDING FACTOR HERE.

I WOULD THINK THE DECIDING FACTOR AT THIS POINT SHOULD BE ON WHICH HAS THE GREATER FLEXIBILITY, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

WHICH ONE WOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO RAISE ANY, ANY IC THAT THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHERE THE ELEVATOR, UM, I THINK THE ELEVATOR'S ON THE ROOF, BUT STILL, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE, YOU CAN'T HAVE THE CATCH BASIN BELOW THE ELEVATOR FLOOD.

UM, THE ELEVATOR WILL, UH, NOT FUNCTION.

SO THERE'S, THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL, UM, UH, COMPONENT.

'CAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ELEVATOR IN THIS BUILDING, AND IF THAT ELEVATOR GOES OUT AND SOMEBODY'S ON THE THIRD FLOOR AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR APARTMENT OR EITHER GET OUT OR COME, COME AND GO, IT BECOMES A, A, A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE.

SO I FALL ON THE, ON THE OPINION OF THE OPINION THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, PROBABLY APPROPRIATE TO MAINTAIN THE 12 FOOT.

I DEFER TO STAFF ON THIS, BUT JUST AS, SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF HOW TO THINK ABOUT THIS, UH, IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FUTURE PROOFING, UH, HISTORIC, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, WOULD BE TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT.

IT WOULD INCREASE THAT FLOOR, THAT, THAT FLOOR LEVEL, BUT IT WOULD SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT OF THE, UM, OF THE, IT WOULD SACRIFICE, IT WOULD SACRIFICE SOME OF THE, THE WAY THE BUILDING APPEARS IN A NON HISTORIC WAY FROM THE STREET.

BUT IT WOULD ADD THE ABILITY TO BE, TO BE FUTURE PROOF.

SO, UM, DEBBIE, DID YOU WANNA JUMP IN BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD CON IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION.

YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK.

AND, AND WE DO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IT'S AN ARROW SITE.

UM, GRADE IS AT FOUR NGVD, SO IT'S PRETTY LOW HERE.

AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT 12 FEET, THE 12 FEET WOULD BE MEASURED NOT FROM GRADE, BUT FROM NINE.

SO, SO THE PERCEPTION OF THE HEIGHT, IF YOU'RE AT A FOUR FOOT GRADE AND YOU HAVE 12 FEET ABOVE NINE, IN THIS INSTANCE, WE THOUGHT WOULD CREATE SOME INCOMPATIBILITIES WITH ITS SURROUNDING.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF GRADE HAD BEEN AT FIVE OR SIX, THAT THEN THAT INCOMPATIBILITY GETS REDUCED A BIT, UM, BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE AT GRADE OR ABOVE TYPICALLY.

UM, AND SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT WITH 10 FOOT EIGHT INCHES ABOVE NINE NGVD, THERE IS STILL AMPLE ROOM TO ADAPT THE BUILDING IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT GROUND FLOOR.

BECAUSE EVEN IF THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS WENT UP THREE FEET, WHICH THERE'S NO PLAN TO DO HERE THREE OR FOUR FEET, YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ADAPTABLE SPACE IN FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, FLOOR TO CEILING CLEARANCE, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE USED AS SOME TYPE OF PURPOSE.

SO THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT IT.

UM, BUT I RESPECT, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD'S DECISION AND, AND SEA LEVEL RISE IS A REAL THING, .

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WILL NEED TO ADAPT THESE BUILDINGS IN THE FUTURE.

IT WAS DID, IT DOES JUST A FOR CLARIFICATION AND THEN I'LL, I'LL LET OTHER PEOPLE TELL ME.

SO WHEN, WHEN, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, THAT GROUND, WHEN THAT, UM, WHEN IT'S RAISED FROM 10 FOOT EIGHT TO 12 FEET, DOES THAT MEAN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS ALSO RAISED OR DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING STAYS THE SAME, BUT THE, BUT THE FLOOR TO FLOOR TO CEILINGS REDUCE? THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THIS DISTRICT IS 35 FEET.

THAT'S MEASURED FROM BASE FLOOD PLUS FREEBOARD.

THE FREEBOARD WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 13 NGVD.

SO THE, SO EVEN IF THEY'RE GROUND FLOOR BUMPED, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE SECOND FLOOR ABOVE THE 13 FEET, THAT WOULDN'T INCREASE THE HEIGHT.

BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MEASURE FROM THAT SLAB.

THEY'D HAVE TO MEASURE FROM 13, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH IS BELOW.

LIZ, I JUST HAVE CLARIFICATION.

SO THE PROPOSED CURRENT FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF THE GROUND FLOOR IS NINE FEET.

SO HOW DO YOU GO FROM FOUR TO FIVE IN THAT 20 FOOT SETBACK THERE? 'CAUSE THE CAR THERE SEEMS TO BE IN A PRETTY MUCH FLAT SPACE.

SO WE HAVE A, A SLOPE THAT, UM, LEADS YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SITE PLAN, WE HAVE A SLOPE THAT BRINGS YOU INTO THE DRIVE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, PATH ALONG THE, UM,

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THE SOUTH.

SO WE HAVE THE SLOPE JUST ENOUGH, UH, TO MAKE IT THERE.

SO, I'M SORRY, HOW, WHAT'S THE SLOPE? THE, IT GOES THE RAMP TO GO FROM THE STREET TO THE, UM, TO THE PARKING AREA.

WE'RE PUTTING UP THE SECTION HERE.

IT IS ON, CAN YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN? THAT IS THE SLOPE THAT WE HAVE, UM, RIGHT THERE INTO THE SITE IN THE 20.

CAN YOU USE YOUR CURSOR TO OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

TO SHOW RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT WITHIN THE 20 FOOT SETBACK WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE WEST SIDE.

UH, WITH THAT IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY MORE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, THEN I THINK, UM, THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YEAH, IF I MAY.

UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THE SHORT TERM RENTAL CONDITION, UH, AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION AS WELL.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? WELL, SHORT, RIGHT.

SO SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT PERMITTED AS IT IS, UM, IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.

SO IT, THE, I GUESS THE PROPER WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT WE COULD, UM, SINCE THE APPLICANT IS MAKING A VOLUNTARY PROFFER, WE COULD INCLUDE IT ANYWAY.

THAT WAY IF THE CODE EVER CHANGED IN THE FUTURE, UH, THE PROFFER WOULD CONTROL.

SO SHOULD WE, UM, CAN I HAVE A FIRST, CAN I HAVE A, UH, A MOTION FOR THE F FOR THE, UM, FOR THE DEMOLITION, UH, PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION? I, I'LL, I'LL MOVE THAT.

RAY MOVES ANY SECONDS SECOND, ELIZABETH.

LET ME CALL THE ROLL.

MS. LOVE? YES.

MR. EHRLICH? YES.

MS. CAR? MARGO? YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

AND MR. STEWART? YES.

THAT PASSES.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, HPV 23 0 6 0 5 FOR THE CERTIFIC OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE WAIVER AS WELL.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO THE, UM, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, INCLUDING THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT WILL BE IRONED OUT WITH STAFF, UM, INCLUDING THE HORIZONTALITY ON THE, ON THAT, UM, WALL.

THE BIKE RACKS, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL EXCLUSION AS, UM, ENDORSED BY THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT, PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT SO THAT IT STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND NANCY.

LET ME CALL THE ROLE MS. CARGO.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

A, A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THIS PARTICULAR SPORT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

MR. BRESLIN, DID I ALREADY CALL YOU , MR. ERLICH? YES.

YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.

CONGRATS.

OKAY, OUR, UH, NEXT APPLICATION

[6. HPB24-0622, 1200 Meridian Avenue.]

IS HPB 24 0 OR 0 6 2 2.

THIS IS 1200 MERIDIAN AVENUE, UM, FLAMINGO PARK AND APPLICANT.

THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF PICKLEBALL QUARTZ.

UM, VERY EXCITED.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I WAS, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CHAIR EARLIER THIS MORNING.

I'VE NEVER TRIED IT, BUT THERE DOES SEEM TO BE

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UM, SO MAYBE ONCE THESE ARE BUILT, I WILL CHECK IT OUT.

? YES, I RECOMMEND LESSONS.

UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY, THIS IS PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, PLAN TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PICKLEBALL COURTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION HAS, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AN OPEN AREA WITHIN THE PARK THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY UTILIZED.

UM, IT IS NORTH OF THE HANDBALL COURTS AND SOUTH OF THE BASEBALL FIELD.

SO STAFF HAS, UH, NO OBJECTION TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.

UM, THIS, THESE COURTS WILL BE SURROUNDED BY OTHER ACTIVE USES.

SO THIS IS NOT A PASSIVE PORTION OF THE PARK.

UM, WE'VE ALSO NOTED, AND WE ALSO, UH, CONFIRMED, UH, THROUGH REVIEWING THE FLAMINGO PARK MASTER PLAN THAT THIS WILL NOT CONFLICT WITH THE APPROVED FLAMINGO PARK MASTER PLAN.

SO ALL OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

UM, THIS IS A RELATIVELY SIMPLE APPLICATION.

I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, BUT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND WE HAVE, UM, OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEBBIE ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? NO.

NO? NO.

WITH THAT, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT, LIKE TO PRESENT.

SURE.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD STAFF, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.

MY NAME IS TARA PATTON.

I AM WITH THE COMPANY PLANNING AND ENTITLEMENTS IN HALE ALL THE WAY FROM BOYTON BEACH, UH, FLORIDA.

SO VERY PROUD TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND IN PARTICULAR THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT ON A PROJECT THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO IMPLEMENT, UH, AS STAFF INDICATED.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS ON BOARD WAITING FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT TO COME ABOARD, SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME THIS MORNING.

YEP.

THERE WE GO.

UM, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR OUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS WITHIN FLAMINGO PARK.

UH, AS INDICATED THAT, UH, THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE BUDGET FOR 2324, UH, HAS APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS WITHIN FLAMINGO PARK.

UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WILL BE OVERSEEN BY THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, THREE ASPHALT PICKLEBALL COURTS MEASURING 34 FEET BY 64, A NEW PERIMETER FENCING, 10 FEET IN HEIGHT, NEW LIGHTING, A NEW CONCRETE PATTERN, SIDEWALK, AN INSTALLATION OF BENCHES, A DRINKING FOUNTAIN AND TRASH CAN.

LOOKS LIKE I'M HAVING TROUBLE HERE, TRY USING THE OPEN DOWN ROAD.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S OCCURRING HERE IN THE BEFORE.

UH, SO HERE'S THE LOCATION OF FLAMINGO PARK.

AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW IT VERY WELL.

UH, YOU WILL, I'LL FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT HERE YOU'LL SEE FLAMINGO PARK, AS YOU KNOW, BORDERED BY MERIDIAN AVENUE AND ALSO, UM, ALTON ROAD.

UM, UP AT THE TOP, THE STREET CLOSEST IS 15TH STREET WITH THE STREET BORDERING ON THE SOUTH BY 11TH.

SO AS STAFF INDICATED, THIS PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FLAMINGO PARK MASTER PLAN.

SO ON YOUR LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU WILL SEE THE MASTER PLAN AS APPROVED, I BELIEVE, BY YOUR BOARD AND BY YOUR, UH, CITY COMMISSION.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 21, UH, INDICATES HERE THAT THE PICKLEBALL COURT CONSTRUCTION WILL COMMENCE IN 2024.

SO ITEM NUMBER 21 IS RIGHT HERE.

SO ON THE SLIDE NEXT TO IT, WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS BLOW UP THE AREA HERE IN QUESTION.

SO WHERE ITEM 21 IS ON THE, ON THE MASTER PLAN, UM, I BLEW IT UP A BIT SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE EXACT LOCATION.

SO AS YOU WELL KNOW, UH, PARKING FOR FLAMINGO PARK OCCURS ON STREET ON BOTH SIDES OF FLAMINGO PARK, ON MERIDIAN AND ON MICHIGAN.

AND THEN, UH, YOU ALSO HAVE A PARKING LOT, UH, HERE OFF 11TH STREET.

UH, SO IF YOU WERE COMING FROM YOUR, YOUR CAR, YOU WOULD TAKE THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS UP TO THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS HERE.

SO YOU WOULD BE COMING EITHER FROM HERE FROM THE SOUTH OR COMING FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST, UH, UP TO THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURTS.

UH, SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN BLOWN, UM, FURTHER.

UM, SO

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SO WE REALLY HAVE NOTHING IN, IN THIS PAST SPACE HERE.

UM, I BELIEVE, UH, THE STAFF FOUND A VERY GOOD SPOT FOR THESE COURTS TO KIND OF BE A CONTINUATION OF THE, UH, HANDBALL COURT AREA.

AND SO WHAT IS OCCURRING IS THAT RIGHT OFF OF THIS LITTLE PEDESTRIAN ROUNDABOUT, WE'RE JUST CREATING A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK THAT COMES OFF OF THE ROUNDABOUT WALKWAY AND THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO THESE THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS HERE.

AND WE'LL HAVE THE 10 FOOT PERIMETER FENCE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT.

WE'LL HAVE THE, UM, ASSOCIATED LIGHTING SO THAT THE COURT CAN BE USED, UH, DURING EVENING HOURS.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE ADDING SOME, UH, FURNITURE, SOME STREET FURNITURE IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL ACCOMPANY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COURTS.

SO, UH, HERE'S A GRAPHIC THAT YOU SHOW WAS SHOWN IN THE INITIAL SLIDE, UM, OF THE COURTS.

SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO THE NORTH FROM THE SOUTH, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY MATCH PRETTY CLOSELY TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR GOLF CLUB IN TERMS OF COLOR AND AND SUCH.

UM, SO HERE'S A FURTHER, UM, SORT OF DESCRIPTOR OF SOME OF THE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT WILL BE ADDED, SOME OF THE FURNITURE.

SO, UM, HERE YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, YOUR, YOUR THE THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE INCORPORATING, AS I INDICATED, IS A NEW LIGHTING.

SO HERE'S A, A PICTURE OF THE PROPOSED LIGHTING FIXTURE.

WE'LL BE ADDING THE CHAIN LINK FENCE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS PHOTOS FROM, UH, YOUR EXISTING APPLICABLE COURTS THAT YOU HAVE WITHIN THE CITY.

SO IT WILL, UM, VERY MUCH SO MATCH, UM, IN COLOR AND STYLE.

UH, THEN WE'LL BE HAVING, UM, NEW TRASH RECEPTACLE, UH, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING TRASH RECEPTACLES IN THE PARK CURRENTLY.

AND, UH, NEW BENCHES.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE BENCHES THAT HAVE BEEN UTILIZED, UH, IN YOUR, UM, PARK IN, IN THE GOLF CLUB.

UH, SO OUTSIDE OF THE COURT, OUTSIDE OF THE FENCING, WE'LL BE PUTTING A NEW CONCRETE PAD.

SO THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN, UM, SEATING AREAS.

SO THAT IS THE, THE SPEC FOR THE BENCHES THAT WILL BE PLACED OUTSIDE, UH, THE BIKE RACKS THAT WILL BE ADDED.

AND, UM, THE WATER FOUNTAIN, UH, I SHOWED YOU THE MODEL HERE IN, IN THIS, UH, PICTURE, BUT IT'LL ACTUALLY BE SILVER IN COLOR.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL FOUN WILL LOOK LIKE.

BUT THE COLOR WILL MATCH WHAT'S EXISTING WITHIN THE PARK.

SO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF HAS OUTLINED, UM, THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS.

AND SO FOR BREVITY, I INCLUDED JUST THE THREE MAJOR BULLETS.

OBVIOUSLY THE STAFF HAS FOUND THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE C LEVEL, UH, RISE APPROPRIATENESS CRITERIA AND IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER CRITERIA IN TERMS OF THE PHYSICAL ALTERATIONS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, UM, BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN THE HISTORIC, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS WITHIN, UH, THE SITE AND IN THE PARK.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, AGAIN, I'M TARA PATTON, I'M HERE TO ANSWER.

AND I ALSO HAVE, UM, STAFF HERE FROM PARKS RECREATION.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO PILAR WHO REALLY HELPED PULL THIS TOGETHER ON BEHALF OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, RAY, THE ONLY THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME IS WHY DO YOU HAVE A BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE INSTEAD OF MAYBE A NICE GREEN ONE THAT LOOKS MORE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY AROUND THIS WHOLE THING? I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR IS JUST TO MATCH WHAT WAS EXISTING.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH WHAT'S EXISTING IN THE PARKS AND THE BLACK IS SEEMS TO BE MORE COMMONPLACE AND WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE USING, UH, THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA AND THROUGHOUT MIAMI BEACH.

SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MATCH WHAT'S IN THE, THE GOLF PARK.

OH, BLACK DOES HOLD THE HEAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

IT SEEMS TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPAINT.

UM, JUST FURTHER ON SOME OF THE CONTINUITY, DESIGN CONTINUITY, UM, UH, ASPECTS THAT I JUST WANTED TO, UH, ZERO IN ON.

SO ONE IS THE ACTUAL DESIGN, UH, EX EXCUSE ME, THE COLOR PALETTE OF THE PART OF THE, THE COURTS THEMSELVES IS, COULD YOU GIVE US, COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT? IS THERE, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT PICKLEBALL, SO IS THERE A CERTAIN COLOR OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE ONES AT MIGHTY BEACH GOLF CLUB ARE EXACTLY THIS SAME COLOR AND THAT'S WHY THIS COLOR PALETTE WAS CHOSEN? CORRECT.

IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE MATCHING WHAT IS EXISTING AT THE GOLF CLUB AND WORKS WELL AND, AND THE BLUE COLOR SEEMS TO BE, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PAINT AND THE LIFETIME OF IT,

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UM, SO THE, THE APP, THE BLUE ASPHALT IS ALSO INDICATIVE OF PICKLEBALL VERSUS GREEN OR ANY OTHER COLOR LIKE THAT? THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION, YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

AND THEN AGAIN, I HAVE NOT YET PLAYED PICKLEBALL YET, SO I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

I THOUGHT THAT IT, I THOUGHT GREEN WAS THE MORE APPROPRIATE COLOR HERE.

BUT, UM, ON THE QUESTION OF THE STREET FURNITURE, UM, COULD WE JUST GO BACK TO THOSE BENCHES JUST TO, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND THEN AGAIN ON THIS SECOND BENCH WITH THIS FLOURISH HERE.

WHERE, WHAT WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR, FOR THAT ONE WITH THE BLUE AND IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PARK AS WELL? I BELIEVE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THAT THESE BLUE BENCHES ARE ALREADY SPECKED BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY EXISTING IN THE PARK.

SO, SO THOSE EXIST LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE TENNIS FACILITY AND EVERYTHING? YEAH, IN THAT SAME COLOR.

IT GET YOU A TENNIS RACK THOUGH.

I KNOW.

I HAVEN'T PLAYED IN A YEAR.

I GUESS THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

GOOD.

THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES, LINDSAY.

UM, OKAY.

SO A A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, ONE, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS WORD THAT KEEPS GETTING TOSSED AROUND IN RELATION TO OUR PARKS AND TALKING ABOUT UTILIZATION OF PARK SPACE BECAUSE THERE IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT PASSIVE SPACE IN A PARK, RIGHT? AND THE PARK IS ALREADY, I I THINK WE'VE HEARD TESTIMONY IN THIS, IN THIS BOARDROOM BEFORE, SOMETHING ABOUT 85% PROGRAMMED.

BUT THAT SAID, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU WERE GOING TO ACTIVATE A SPACE IN THE PARK, THIS IS A, A GOOD AREA TO DO SO.

BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN A MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS OF THE PARK IS TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FOR DRAINAGE AND PLACES FOR THE WATER TO GO WHEN WE DO HAVE THESE SUNNY DAY FLOOD EVENTS AND, AND RAIN, I DON'T, I'LL BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T GONE OUT IN THE RAIN IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, , UM, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DEALING, LIKE WHAT IS THIS THE EXISTING CONDITION, LIKE WHEN IT IS RAINING? ARE WE GONNA HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT NOW THAT WE'RE PUTTING A CONCRETE SLAB AND THEN ASPHALT OVER IT? I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK WHEN WE GET DONE, YOU'RE GONNA GET, HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, AND THEN YOU KEEP, UH, HEARKENING BACK TO, UH, MIAMI BEACH GOLF CLUB WHERE THEY HAVE THE, THE BLUE AND GREEN, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS.

BUT I THINK TO ME MORE IMPORTANTLY IS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UM, IT'S, UH, IN LINE WITH WHAT'S IN FLAMINGO PARK, IF WE'RE GONNA COMPARE IT TO ANYTHING.

AND I JUST PULLED UP GOOGLE MAPS AND I SEE THAT THE BASKETBALL COURTS ARE BLUE AND GREEN AT, UM, AND I, I THINK THEY'RE STILL THAT COLOR I HAVE.

AND, AND IS THIS THE SAME COLOR SCHEME, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, WELL, JUST THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT, UH, IN FLAMINGO, IS THAT THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT FLAMINGO? CORRECT.

UM, AND I WAS PRETTY SURE THEY WERE THE BLUE AND GREEN AND I PULLED UP GOOGLE MAPS AND THEY ARE, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT'S THE SAME COLOR AGAIN, TRYING TO BE IN KEEPING RIGHT.

RAY.

ONE OTHER CURIOUS QUESTION.

IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WAS CERTAINLY ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE A FOURTH COURT.

WHY DIDN'T YOU DO FOUR INSTEAD OF THREE? I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED BY THE COMMISSION WAS TO HAVE THESE THREE, SO FUNCTION OF BUDGET.

UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE HANDBALL COURTS.

UM, WHAT'S THE, IS THERE A LOT OF USE FOR THE, WITH THOSE HANDBALL COURTS AS WELL? YES.

YES, THERE IS.

I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THERE WAS THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE POTENTIALLY GONNA RE KIND OF FRAME THAT AREA AND MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT, LET'S SAY.

NO, CURRENTLY WE, WE HAD, THERE'S SO MUCH, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF PEOPLE ARE USING SPACE, NO FOR SPACE, I'M NOT SUGGESTING FOR, THERE'S SO MUCH DEMAND FOR PICKLEBALL THAT WE HAD TO PLACE DOWN TEMPORARY PICKLEBALL LINES THERE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE PICKLEBALL, BUT, BUT ALSO FOR THE HANDBALL, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A HAND THERE.

IT'S A HANDBALL, UM, UH, FACILITY AND IT'S WIDELY USED AT ALL TIMES.

THERE'S A LOT OF TENANTS THERE.

YEARS AGO THEY TRIED TO REPURPOSE THAT AND FLAMENCO PARK NEIGHBORS WERE ALL UP IN ARMS AGAINST IT, SO.

LINDSEY, GO AHEAD.

UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT, UM, THE, THE HOURS AND THE LIGHT MITIGATION.

I MEAN, YOU TALKED ABOUT PLAYING IN THE EVENING HOURS.

I MEAN, I PLAY TENNIS, SO I GET IT, BUT THE LIGHTS HAVE TO GO OFF AT NINE O'CLOCK, SO SURE.

WELL, THE HOURS LINGLE PARK ARE, THEY VARY, UH, DEPENDING ON, UH, THE AREAS.

UH, BUT TYPICALLY, UH, FOR MOST AREAS IT'S 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND IT WOULD PRETTY MUCH FOLLOW, I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW THE HANDBALL COURT HOURS, WHICH ARE 8:00 AM TO 10:00 PM

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ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, SOMEONE HAD ASKED AT ONE POINT ABOUT THE, THE NOISE AND WHAT'S THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT, THAT CAME UP DURING THE FLAMINGO, UH, UH, PARK ASSOCIATION.

AND IT'S OVER 300 FEET FROM LIKE, UH, IT'S ABOUT 300 FEET FROM MICHIGAN.

UM, AND YOU'VE GOT LANDSCAPING AT A DOG PARK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO, TO THAT.

SO IT'S ALREADY ENCLOSED BETWEEN LIKE, AS DEBBIE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THE BASEBALL FIELD TO THE NORTH, THE HANDBALL COURSE TO THE SOUTH, AND, UH, THE DOG PARK TO THE WEST.

AND, AND CHAIR, I JUST SO THAT NO ONE GETS ANTSY, I NOTICED WE HAVE SOMEBODY RAISING YOUR HAND.

WE ARE GONNA HAVE A MOMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, YES, WE WILL.

THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST OUR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE, AS A PERSON WHO PLAYS TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL EVERY WEEKEND, UM, I KNOW HOW BRUTAL IT IS WHEN IN ESPECIALLY IN OUR PARTICULARLY HOT SUMMERS AND I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO SHADE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEFORE THIS IS APPROVED, THAT THERE ARE SHADE STRUCTURES PUT INCLUDED IN AND AROUND THIS COURT.

THIS, YOU, YOU REALLY, IT'S UNFAIR FOR YOU TO EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY FOR AN HOUR NO, THIS IN WHEN YOU'RE AT THE COURT.

OH, I SEE.

YEAH, YEAH.

NO, NOT LIKE YOU CAN, YEAH, YOU CAN GO TO YOUR CAR, YOU CAN GET TO, YOU CAN GET TO A BUILDING, BUT YOU REALLY, WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING.

AND THAT'S WHY I PREFACE THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO PLAYS YOU LIKE THOSE LIKE FIVE MINUTES UNDER THE SHADE TO GET BACK OUT INTO THE CORE BETWEEN OR BETWEEN ROUNDS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WILL YOU BE ABLE TO PROMISE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS? IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.

ARE YOU LOOKING INTO, ARE YOU ASKING FOR A PERMANENT SHADE STRUCTURE? LIKE WHAT THERE IS AT THE OUTDOOR FITNESS? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UMBRELLAS.

NO.

IT CAN BE UMBRELLAS.

BUT YOU DON'T SHOW ANY OF THAT.

THERE ARE UMBRELLAS AT, UH, MAY BEACH GOLF COURSE THERE THAT WERE PROVIDED THERE AND WE THERE WE CAN PROVIDE AND YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S POINT AS AS YOUR ORDER WE CAN INCLUDE THAT OR I, OR I MIGHT SAY WHAT MIGHT BE NICE IS SOME SHADE TREES.

THE TREES AROUND AND ABOUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL BE MINDFUL OF THE ADJACENT SPACE AND THE FLAMINGO MASTER PLAN WHEN WE DO THIS, WE CAN ALWAYS WORK WITH, UH, WITH STOCK.

AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIGHTING.

UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION AND YOU'RE ADDING A LIGHT TO THE EVENING SKY.

HOW DO THESE LIGHTS, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THE LIGHTS, UM, ACTUALLY ADDRESS LIGHT POLLUTION? HOW THEY'RE FOCUSED? THEY, THEY ARE FOCUSED.

IT'S THE SAME AS THE LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THROUGHOUT FLAMINGO PARK.

SO THEY ARE, TECHNOLOGY HAS, UH, COME ALONG WAY.

AND SO THOSE LIGHTS ARE FOCUSED AND YOU'LL HAVE VERY LITTLE SPILLOVER OR NO SPILLOVER PAST THE COURTS.

THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO, TO HAVE OKAY.

LIGHTING JUST ON THE COURTS.

AND THAT AND THAT ARRANGEMENT, I'VE NEVER SEEN LIGHTS JUST AT THE CORNERS OF, UH, OF A FACILITY LIKE THAT.

ARE YOU SURE THAT'S GONNA WORK? WHO IS THE LIGHTING CONSULTANT THAT YOU WORK WITH? WE HAVEN'T THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY, UH, GOTTEN TO THAT PHASE.

WE ARE WORKING WITH MUSCO LIGHTING, WHICH ARE THE VENDORS THAT WE TYPICALLY USE, THAT WE HAVE, SORRY, WE HAVE USED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

AND ONCE WE GET TO THAT PHASE, THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE PERMITTED OUT AND WE WILL, UH, DESIGN THAT SO THAT IT MEETS THE PHOTOMETRIC.

UH, OKAY.

IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD WORK AS DRAWN.

AND FINALLY, UM, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHT, HOW MUCH, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU'RE RAISING THIS, UM, HOW THE, HOW, HOW WE'RE RAISING THINGS IN THE CITY.

BUT YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE FACILITIES ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BE DRY QUICKLY.

AND I MEAN, I'VE SEEN SO OFTEN THAT THEY, THAT THEY PUDDLE BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE LOW AND OTHER AREAS AROUND THEM DRAIN INTO THEM.

HOW, HOW MUCH ARE YOU RAISING THIS? HOW MUCH ARE YOU RAISING THESE QUARTS ABOVE THE SURROUNDING ELEVATION AND HOW ARE YOU DRAINING IT? WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT OKAY.

THAT MUCH DETAIL IN THESE PLANS.

UM, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

UM, I KNOW THAT PART OF OUR, OUR PLAN IS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR PARTS TO BE PART OF LIKE WHERE WHEN IT RAINS, WHERE FLOOD, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU FLOOD WATERS WOULD, WOULD HOLD.

UM, I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD GET THIS ABOVE THAT.

THERE MAY BE SOME WATER INTRUSION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER DRAINS OFF THE COURSE.

DEFINITELY.

IT'S JUST THEY DON'T SEE ANY DRAINS DRAWN ON THE DRAWING, EVEN EVEN BEING PROPOSED.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WILL WORK.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, CHAIR, THEY, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE WOULD GO IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TASKED AT THIS POINT JUST TO DO A SITE PLAN, A GENERAL SITE PLAN.

WHICH USUALLY INCLUDES DRAINS.

YES, SIR.

UM, BUT WE, WE WEREN'T, WE, WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT STAGE YET.

THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WILL, UM, HIRE A ENGINEER, CIVIL ENGINEERS THAT WILL PREPARE A GRADING PLAN.

AND THAT GRADING PLAN WILL ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT FLOODING THE ADJACENT AREAS NOR FLOODING THE COURT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT YOU RAISED.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING, DEBBIE, THAT YOU THINK YOU GUYS CAN HANDLE ADMINISTRATIVELY? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE REVIEWING IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PLANNING HAS THE EXPERTISE TO, TO COMMENT ON.

NO, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THOUGH.

YES, ELIZABETH?

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SO THE DESIGNER AND ME CANNOT BE QUIET.

AND SINCE JOHN WAS ASKING FOR A SHELTER SPACE, THERE IS THAT NICE AREA WHERE THE BENCHES ARE AND THE TRASH CAN ARE.

THAT'S THE WIDER SEAT AREA.

SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS LOOKING AT THIS DRAWING HERE, THIS AREA, YES.

THAT WE FOLLOWED THE SAME DESIGN AS WE DID AT MIAMI BEACH GOLF.

SO THAT'S LIKE AN AREA WHERE, UH, PLAYERS THAT ARE WAITING TO, UH, PLAY PICKLEBALL WOULD BE WAITING AND WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, UMBRELLAS THERE.

GOTCHA.

TO PROVIDE SHADE AS WELL, YOU KNOW, ON THE BENCHES FOR SEATING.

AND SO WHERE IS THE WATER FOUNTAINS LOCATED? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE.

IT WAS, UH, LOCATED JUST OUTSIDE OF THE ENTRANCE.

UH, TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

UH, OKAY.

IT'S, YEAH, THE DRY, MAYBE THAT'S THIS LITTLE, OKAY.

UH, AND MY ANOTHER QUESTION IS THE, EVERYTHING WILL BE ASPHALTED WITHIN THE FENCE OR JUST THE CARTS THEMSELVES WHO HAVE ASPHALT AND THE LIGHT BLOWING BETWEEN IS ANOTHER MATERIAL.

EVERYTHING INSIDE OF THE FENCES IS A CORE.

IT'S ASPHALT WOULD BE ASPHALT.

AND IS THAT REALLY NECESSARY TO BE EVERYTHING ASALT? YES.

YOU DON'T REALLY CONTAIN YOURSELF TO WITHIN THE NO, BUT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND.

NO, BUT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER SURFACES THAT PROVIDE A GOOD WALKING SURFACE WITHOUT BEING IMPERVIOUS ASPHALT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

'CAUSE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES YOU CAN USE.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND TO PLAY ITSELF, YOU NEED THE BALL TO PICK AND YOU NEED THE ASPHALT, BUT THE SPACES IN BETWEEN, THERE ARE OTHER HARD SURFACES THAT ALLOW FOR YOU TO WALK AND RUN WITHOUT BEING ASALT AND THEN COULD IMPROVE THE PERMEABILITY OF THE AREA SINCE IT'S AT SUCH A LARGE AREA.

UH, I, I THINK THE ONLY PORTION THAT YOU WOULD MAYBE BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS WHERE THE SEATING PORTION IS.

'CAUSE YOU DO NEED SPACE IN BETWEEN THE COURTS.

LIKE IT'S, IT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO RUN OFF, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY IF, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUIRED.

, UH, ONE QUESTION FOR DEBBIE.

DO YOU THINK THAT THE, UM, 'CAUSE THE UMBRELLAS THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD PROVIDE, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN REVIEW FOR COLLEGE? YEAH, BECAUSE UMBRELLAS ARE, YEAH.

I DON'T ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT.

I KNOW THE TENNIS COURT HAS SOME OF THOSE LITTLE STRUCTURES.

UM, SO I THINK, AND WE HAVE THEM IN NORTH SHORE AS WELL.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE RETRACTABLE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION ALONG THOSE LINES IS, AND, AND THIS IS MORE OF A PRACTICAL QUESTION, MAYBE NOT UNDER OUR PURVIEW, BUT YOU KNOW, AT, AT UH, MIAMI BEACH TENNIS CENTER AND AT THE GOLF CLUB, UM, AND EVEN AT FROM PARK TENNIS CENTER, YOU'VE STAFFING WHO MOVE THE UMBRELLAS, TAKE CARE OF THEM DURING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE RETRACTABLE.

AND THEY COME AND TAKE THEM DOWN WHEN IT STARTS RAINING OR WHEN THERE'S WEATHER AND THEY TAKE DOWN THE WINDSCREENS WHEN THERE'S WEATHER.

AND SO I, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS STAFF AT THE PARKS, BUT NOT IN THE SAME WAY.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT GETS ADDRESSED IF IT'S NOT A PERMANENT SHADE STRUCTURE, BUT IF IT'S A PERMANENT SHADE STRUCTURE, THEN LIKE WHAT DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KINDA ISSUES DOES THAT CAUSE? SO AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU MEAN LIKE DAILY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED ONCE YOU OPEN THE COURTS DAILY, LIKE RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN THE RAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN RAIN AND WIND PICKS UP, OH NO.

WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF THESE UMBRELLAS THAT THEN BECOME PROJECTILES STAFF? OH YEAH.

STAFF.

THOSE, WE, WE MAKE SURE TO GO FROM, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

PARK TO PARK AND ALL, ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS YOU ADDRESS.

IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT, GREAT FACILITY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, THERE ARE NO MORE BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO YES, GO AHEAD.

SORRY, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

AGAIN, I DON'T PLAY SOFTBALL, BUT IS, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THE SOFTBALL AND PICKLEBALL PROXIMATE PRO, UH, PROXIMITY HERE AND THE SOCCER AND THE, AND SOCCER AT THE SOFTBALL FIELD? I, I MEAN THE, THE SOFTBALL FIELD, JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE AARON BALLS OR WHATEVER, I, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT DEPENDS ON THE AIR OF THE SOFTBALL .

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S CAPABLE OF ADMITTING THAT FAR, THERE'S NO WAY TO STOP THAT.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NETTING PROPOSED AROUND THE, UH, UH, AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT ON THAT NETTING, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION.

I THINK, 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THOSE PLANS FOR ME.

I THINK IT MAY BE 30 FEET.

I THINK SO.

I MEAN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT YOU INHERENTLY LIKE AS YOU'RE WALKING NEXT TO A FIELD THAT YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF.

BUT THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES.

ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? UH, THEY PRESENTED TO THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALTHOUGH ADMITTEDLY I WAS WORKING ON OTHER THINGS, SO.

GREAT.

UM, ANY PUBLIC, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.

IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE COME FORWARD, UM, TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS.

AND MR. CHAIR, WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE ON ZOOM.

AND, UH, I ALSO REPRESENT USA PICKLEBALL ASSOCIATION.

MY NAME IS ZVI, UH, 1605 PENNSYLVANIA.

I'M A PICKLEBALL PLAYER

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I'M AS, AS WE CALL IT, AMBASSADOR OF, OF THAT ASSOCIATION.

SO FIRST OF ALL, UH, I HAVE A HAT BECAUSE I HAD SOME SURGERY ON MY HEAD, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UH, THE, UH, SECOND THING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, UH, A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND, AND THE, UH, PARK CENTER CREATION STAFF, JOHN REBAR.

JOSE, CINDY, UH, THANK, THANK YOU.

IT, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY, UH, FORWARD THINKING OF, OF THAT TEAM THAT IS MAKING MIAMI BEACH, UH, UH, REALLY A MECCA OF, OF PICKLEBALL.

AND IT'S, UH, LEADING, UH, ALL OF THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF PICKLEBALL.

UH, MIAMI BEACH HAS BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT, DEFINITELY.

SO IT'S, UH, IT'S LOOKING FORWARD, BUT IT'S ALSO BUILDING ON THE TRADITION.

FLAMINGO PARK HAS BEEN A HUB SOUTH FLORIDA HUB OF RACK SPORTS SINCE 1947.

A VERY IMPORTANT YEAR FOR ME.

UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, JUNIOR, UH, ORANGE BOWL, AND WE HAD HUGE TENNIS NAMES GROW AS, AS PLAYERS IN FLAMINGO PARK.

AND NOW WE SEE AGASSI PLAY PICKLEBALL.

WE SEE MACKIN ROB PLAY, PLAY PICKLEBALL.

WE SEE, UH, CARLIN BASSETT, WHO WAS A JUNIOR, UH, CHAMPION, HER CHILDREN PLAYING PICKLEBALL.

UH, SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GROWING AND IT'S GETTING INTO DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND, UH, AS I WROTE TO, TO DEBBIE, WE ALL KNOW HOW IT'S GROWING AND HOW IT'S ENHANCING THE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

NOW, ONE INTERESTING ASPECT OF OF THIS IS THAT THERE IS A PILOT COURT SINCE JANUARY IN, IN FLAMINGO PARK, ACTUALLY WEST OF THE HOUSE BUILDING.

AND WE SEE IT USED EXTENSIVELY BY THE NEIGHBORS, BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, I, UH, GO THERE EVERY DAY.

I TALK TO THE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE ON, ON THE CHAT THAT ARE, UH, FOLLOWING THE ACTIVITY THERE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S ABOUT 80, 90% NEIGHBORS.

THEY, THEY TAKE THE SCOOTERS, THEY WALK, THEY TAKE THEIR BICYCLES LIKE I DO.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE, I BELIEVE.

AND, UH, I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOPEFULLY SUPPORT OF THESE THREE CHORDS, ADDITIONAL THREE CHORDS.

NOW, I, I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, THE QUESTION OF NOISE.

UH, THE, THE NOISE PICKABLE NOISE IS, UH, MEASURED AT 70 DECIBELS AT A HUNDRED FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, THE, THE NOISE OF A, OF A WASHING MACHINE.

AND, AND WE HAVE LIKE, LET'S MEASURED 300 FEET.

SO IT'S REALLY NOT A CONCERN.

AND THE CURRENT, I I, I THINK I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

UH, THE, THE FOURTH COURT, UH, WAS, WAS CONSIDERED BY I THINK THAT THE MONEY COULD BE FOUND.

DO YOU NEED ANOTHER, ANOTHER MINUTE, JUST, JUST A QUICK ONE.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT WAS MOSTLY A DESIGN CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THE FOURTH COURT WOULD CUT INTO THE OTHER AREA, AND YOU ARE VERY, UH, UH, I THINK CONCERNED WITH THE DESIGN THAT THAT ADDITIONAL COURT WOULD CUT INTO THE, THE OTHER AREA THAT'S USED FOR SOCCER AND, AND, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.

ON ZOOM, I SEE ANDRE ASON.

HI, ANDRES, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, SIR.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SO, UH, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

NUMBER ONE IS, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WITH TAKING TWO OF THE 17 TENNIS COURTS IN THE TENNIS CENTER AND CONVERTING THEM INTO FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS? AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IN THE EVENT THAT THAT'S NOT AN OPTION, I WOULD SUGGEST TO PUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS JUST, UH, NORTH OF THE FIVE TENNIS COURTS, SO THEY'RE ALL SORT OF BUNCHED TOGETHER INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN FRONT OF THE SOFTBALL COURT.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THE SPACE JUST NORTH OF THE FIVE TENNIS COURTS, IF IT WAS CONSIDERED OR NOT.

ANYONE, UH, ANDRES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE YOUR THREE MINUTES ANY WAY YOU WISH.

AND THEN, UH, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER THAT, THAT'S IT.

YEAH, THAT WAS IT.

THAT WAS, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THAT THE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS PICKLEBALL COURTS? NO, YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER.

SO IN, JUST, JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT AREA NORTH OF THE TENNIS COURTS WAS RESERVED FOR PASSIVE PARK AREA.

UM, SO I, I THINK THAT PROBABLY WAS PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CONSIDERATION FOR THE CURRENT LOCATION.

THE MASTER PLAN INCLUDED NUMBER 21 THAT WE SAW, RIGHT? WAS

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IT WAS NUMBER 21.

OH, YOU SHOWED A MASTER PLAN WITH, UH, YEAH, THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN IS HAVING A NUMBER 21 WHERE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE GONNA BE.

SO THAT CONVERSATION KIND OF SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED AT THAT POINT? PROBABLY, YEAH.

THAT'S IT.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC.

UM, THEN, UH, I DON'T THINK THE A THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC SAID.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT OTHERWISE WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO, UH, UH, BOARD, UH, BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.

AND, UH, I CAN GO ONE BY ONE.

LINDSAY, WHAT IF I WENT DOWN THIS WAY? LINDSAY, SHOULD I START WITH NO.

I CAN START WITH RAY .

LINDSAY LOOKS AT ME LIKE A DEER WITH A HEADLIGHTS.

SO RAY, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT? I'M, I'M READY TO VOTE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, HAPPY TO SUPPORT A ACTIVE, HEALTHY, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND HOPE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ON THE DETAILS, UM, GET ADDRESSED BY STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

UH, ANYTIME SOMEONE BRINGS ADDITIONAL AMENITIES TO THE RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH, I FULLY SUPPORT YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR IT.

UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS, UH, A GREAT USE OF OUR PARK SPACE.

UH, I'M TOLD THIS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SPORTS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE CITY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BE EMBRACING NEW USES FOR OUR PUBLIC SPACES.

UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN WELL THOUGHT OUT.

UM, MY COMMENTS ARE ONLY RELATE TO ALL OF THE CONTINUITY OF THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, ALREADY THOUGHT THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, UM, ASPECTS AND THAT THEY WILL BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL OF FLAMINGO PARK.

SO THANK YOU.

ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I JUST, UH, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE DESIGN.

MY KIDS WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE MORE PICKLE BAR CARDS ON THE PARK.

AND I JUST WANT A QUICK CLARIFICATION.

IN OUR PACKAGE, WE HAVE THIS BENCH HERE AND THEY PRESENTED A DIFFERENT ONE WITH THE ROUND ARMREST AND BLUE.

WHICH ONE IS ACTUALLY THE ONE BEING PROPOSED? THE, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BENCHES.

THE FIRST ONE GOES INTERIOR, SO THOSE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE INSIDE THE COURT FOR THOSE WAITING TO PLAY.

AND THEN THE BLUE BENCHES THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WERE SHOWN EARLIER, THOSE WILL SIT OUTSIDE OF THE COURT.

AND MATCH THE BALANCE OF THE PARK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

LETS SEE.

UM, NOT A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT I HAVEN'T SAID, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE, UM, OUR, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS COMING IN AND, AND SPEAKING ABOUT THIS.

THAT WAS THE PIECE THAT I THINK WAS MISSING FOR ME.

UM, I WAS LIKE, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THE FAST GROWING AND THE THAT AND THE OTHER.

UM, AND I KNEW THAT THERE HAD BEEN LIKE THE TEMPORARY LINES AT THE REC, BUT YOU KNOW, FOR ME THIS KIND OF POPPED UP OUTTA NOWHERE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE YOU COMING IN AND, AND SHARING THAT PERSPECTIVE WITH US.

I, SORRY, I'M GETTING OFF A, GETTING OUT OF A CALL.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY EXCITING, UH, APPLICATION, VERY EXCITING PROPOSAL FOR OUR, FOR OUR CITY.

UM, I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, THAT, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ISSUES WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF, UM, AT THE GROUND LEVEL, LIKE EXACTLY HOW THIS IS DRAINED SO THAT IT'S AS AVAIL AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AT THE, UH, LEVEL OF THE, OF THE HUMAN INHABITANT, I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, WORK WITH STAFF ON APPROPRIATE UMBRELLAS THAT CAN BE TAKEN UP AND PULL, PULLED DOWN WHEN NEEDED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE DEFINITELY YOU DON'T NEED THEM AT NIGHT AND YOU DON'T WANT THE SHADOWS AT NIGHT, BUT YOU DO NEED THEM DURING THE DAY WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE SHADE.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT ONE OF THE IMAGES THAT YOU GUYS SENT ABOUT, ABOUT A FOUR CORNER MODEL, UH, LIGHTING PROPOSAL FOR THE SPACE.

THE, THEY HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY HIGH.

THESE LIGHTS HAVE TO BE VERY HIGH IN ORDER TO REACH INTERIOR TO THE THREE IN, IN TO THE COURT.

I KNOW THERE ARE VERY FEW, MANY FEWER COURTS HERE.

I JUST HOPE YOU WORK WITH STAFF BECAUSE THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY STRUCTURES THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, PERMANENT.

UM, AND I HOPE YOU WORK WITH, UH, CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE WITHIN THEIR EXPERTISE.

SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, UM, I'LL ASK FOR A, UH, A MOTION.

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UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRESENT, THE PROPOSED DESIGN WITH ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF AND THE SHADES BROUGHT UP BY JOHN.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

UM, LEMME CALL THE ROLL.

MR. EHLI? YES.

MS. LOVELL? YES.

THIS IS HPV 2000, UH, EXCUSE ME, HPV 24 0 6 1 2.

MS. WEINSTEIN BERMAN.

LET'S, OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT APPLICATION.

[4. HPB24-0612, 2001 Collins Avenue.]

THIS IS 2001 COLLINS AVENUE APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A RETRACTABLE CANOPY STRUCTURE AT THE SECOND LEVEL ROOF DECK.

UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROPERTY.

I THINK, UH, MOST OF YOU KNOW THE STORY.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE DEMPSEY VANDERBILT HOTEL.

IT IS NOW PART OF THE SETAI HOTEL PROPERTY.

UM, WHILE IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1936 AND DESIGNED BY HENRY HOER IN THE ART DECO STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE WAS ACTUALLY A, A RECONSTRUCTION.

SO IN 2002 WHEN THE SETAI CONDOMINIUM, UH, PROJECT WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS, UH, STRUCTURAL ISSUES DURING THAT TIME.

AND THE BUILDING WAS, THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED.

AND, UH, THE BOARD LATER REVIEWED AND APPROVED AVE RECONSTRUCTION OF THIS PARTICULAR, UM, UH, BUILDING.

UM, CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO, UH, INTRODUCE A RETRACTABLE CANOPY STRUCTURE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT, THAT FRONTS ON COLLINS AVENUE.

UM, THE CANOPY STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 BY 40 FEET AND IS PROPOSED TO BE SET BACK ABOUT 10 FEET FROM THE 21ST STREET FACADE AND 22 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE COLLINS AVENUE FACADE.

UM, SO STAFF HAS, UM, WHILE WE, THEY HAVE SET BACK THIS CANOPY STRUCTURE AT OUR REQUEST, UM, FROM ALL FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT WILL ST STILL BE VISIBLE, UH, AT THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE COLLINS PARK IS SUCH A LARGE OPEN SPACE.

AND WHEN YOU STAND BACK INTO THE PARK, THIS WILL BE AVIS VISIBLE.

UM, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THIS WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, OR THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.

HOWEVER, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED, UH, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT ANY, UH, LIGHTING FANS, SPEAKERS, FIXTURES, UM, BE INTEGRATED INTO THE CANOPY ITSELF AND THAT NOTHING BE KIND OF AN ATTACHMENT, UM, HUNG FROM THE CANOPY BECAUSE THOSE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE ROLL DOWN SHADE STRUCTURES AS WELL, THOSE OVER TIME CAN RESULT IN WHAT LOOKS LIKE A, A, YOU KNOW, BIT OF A MAKESHIFT BUILDING UP THERE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, WITHOUT PROTECTION, WE DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS SATISFIES THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CRITERIA AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, DEBBIE ABOUT THIS? SEEING NONE.

WELCOME SIR.

I'M NOT SURE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UM, MY NAME IS DARRYL BROWN, FIRST LOOK SOLUTIONS AND I'M REPRESENTING THE SETAI HOTEL ACQUISITIONS FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UM, THEIR MAIN REQUEST IS TO HAVE SAFE SHADED DRY AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THE OUTDOOR SPACE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALL ENJOY ABOUT LIVING HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY HERE ON MIAMI BEACH, UM, WHICH I ALSO ENJOY THAT SPACE TOO WHEN I GO THERE FOR MEETINGS BECAUSE OF THE BREEZE THAT COME OFF THE OCEAN.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY THE, UM, RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SHADED AREA IN THAT LOCATION.

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WHAT ARE YOU GONNA HAVE UNDERNEATH THAT SHADED AREA? WELL, UNDERNEATH THE SHADED AREA MIC PLEASE.

CAN YOU ASK IT AGAIN ON THE MIC? OH, HUH? CAN YOU JUST ASK IT AGAIN ON THE MIC? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.

OH, JUST WONDERED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE UNDER THE SHADED AREA.

I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE USED BY RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, OH, THE, THERE IS GOING TO BE OUTDOOR, UM, LOUNGE SEATING FOR THE RESIDENTS TO SIT AND ENJOY THE OUTSIDE, BUT THERE'S, UM, NO CELL OF ALCOHOL OR ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND, AND WHY WOULD THEY GO THERE VERSUS GOING NEXT TO YOUR POOL ? UM, WELL SOME RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, DO LIKE TO BE AWAY FROM THE POOL AND THE NOISE OF THE POOL AND LIKE THE PEOPLE WATCH AND LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

PACO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THIS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, THE SHADE ITSELF? YES.

OR DOES IT RETRACT? IT'S A, IT'S A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, UM, WITH THE RETRACTION OF THE ROOF AREA THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH FABRIC.

SO DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY RETRACT DURING HIGH WINDS OR DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO MANUALLY OPERATE IT? UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE IT AUTOMATICALLY RETRACT WITH THE HIGH WINDS AUTOMATICALLY UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF WINDS.

BEYOND THAT IT RETRACT? YES.

YES, BRIAN.

AND IS THERE A PROPOSED BAR OR FOOD AND BEVERAGE ELEMENT HERE OR NO? SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE INTENDED USE? JUST TO ENJOY THE FRESH AIR OR, YES.

, THERE, THERE WILL BE ANY LIGHTS, UH, LOUDSPEAKERS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, THEY WOULD, THEY'RE LOOKING TO JUST HAVE LIGHTING, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE HAVEN'T SORRY, ALEX.

COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MIC PLEASE? IF YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER THANK YOU BOARD AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AS WELL.

I'M ALEX FORER, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE SETAI.

MAY BE REPRESENTING OWNERSHIP HERE AS WELL.

SO WE WOULD INTEND TO HAVE MAYBE SOME BACKGROUND SPEAKER MUSIC IF YOU COULD LEAN FORWARD JUST A LITTLE BIT.

WE WOULD INTEND MAYBE TO HAVE SOME BACKGROUND SPEAKER MUSIC, BUT WE DON'T MAKE THIS A MANDATORY DEMAND IF THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE LIGHTING FOR SURE AS WELL.

BUT IN LINE WITH THE, UH, ORDINANCES, WHICH WE CERTAINLY WOULD GO WITH.

DO THEY HAVE ANY CURFEW LIKE FOR NOISE AND STUFF IN THAT AREA? WELL, THEY WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED TO, THIS IS NOT PART OF A VENUE, RIGHT.

SO THEY WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED TO HAVE AMBIENT MUSIC.

SO MUSIC THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE ABOVE A NORMAL CONVERSATION.

THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC HOURS, UH, REQUIRED FOR WHEN MUSIC CAN BE PLAYED OR, OR HAS TO BE SHUT OFF.

UM, BUT THERE IS NO BAR STRUCTURE UP HERE.

THERE'S, THIS IS NOT PART OF A RESTAURANT.

UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S, UH, NOISE ORDINANCE.

AND I HAD, UM, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? I HAD A QUICK QUESTION JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THE DRAWINGS SHOW ONE OF THE IMAGES FROM ABOVE, UM, SHOWED, UM, A KIND OF, UM, I I I MAYBE IT WAS SKETCHED IN A LITTLE A LITTLE STRUCTURE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU KIND OF I DID YOU WANNA SEE IT? UM, IS THAT WHAT YOU KIND OF IMAGINED? OH YEAH, THAT IS THE DIMENSION.

IS THAT EXIST? OKAY.

NO, IT DOESN'T EXIST NOW.

THAT'S JUST DRAWN IN TO SHOW THE DIMENSION.

SO THAT'S THE SKETCH.

GOT IT.

SO YOU, YOU PROPOSED THAT IT HAS A LITTLE, KEN HAS A STRUCTURE AND THEN THE SHADE STRUCTURE STAYS OUT.

STAYS OPEN OVER THAT.

OVER THAT STRUCTURE.

THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW YOU GUYS UNDERSTOOD IT AS WELL.

HOW STAFF, SORRY NOT YOU GUYS, BUT STAFF UNDERSTOOD AS WELL.

UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE, UH, I, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, THEN WE WILL, UM, ASK IF THERE ARE ANY DISCLOSURES.

NO SEEING NONE, ANY PUBLIC MEMBERS, UM, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ON ZOOM FORWARD.

SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY THEN, UM, ARE THERE ANY, ANY COMMENTS, UH, THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THIS? I'M JUST ON THE MIC, I'M JUST SURPRISED TO SET I WOULD SPEND MONEY TO PUT UP A SHADE STRUCTURE WITH NO REAL PURPOSE.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

A SHADE STRUCTURE WITH NO ESTABLISHED PURPOSE.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANY COMMENT? NO.

ANY COMMENT ON THIS SIDE? YEAH, I, IT'S NOT REALLY A COMMON, IT'S, IT'S A, I I ECHO THAT I, YOU KNOW, UM, PUTTING, SPENDING THE MONEY TO PUT UP

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I, I MEAN, I CAN MAYBE GIVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YEAH, MAYBE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE COMING NEXT.

I THINK WE, I KNOW, I KNOW WE CLOSE, WE, WE CLOSE THE, UH, THE, THE MEETING.

BUT PLEASE IF YOU CAN ANSWER, IT SEEMS TO BE ON EVERYBODY'S MIND.

I THINK WE, MANY OF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A VERY BUSY RESORT WITH OUR RESTAURANTS AND WHATNOT AND THERE'S NO PRIVATE SPACE FOR RESIDENTS.

SO I THINK THAT'S A PRIVILEGE.

WE WANT TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY SUCH A SPACE ON THEIR OWN.

NO PRIVATE SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I'M SORRY, I JUST, I CAN'T HEAR YOU VERY WELL.

THERE'S NO OTHER PRIVATE SPACE ON PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTS.

SO ALL THE OTHER SPACES ARE PUBLIC, SO THAT'S REALLY A DESIGNATED AREA FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO THIS WILL BE FOR RESIDENTS? ONLY FOR RESIDENTS, WHICH WE INCLUDE HOTEL GUESTS.

BRIAN.

WELL I GUESS, I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

SO THERE, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE, THE, THE RESIDENT USE HERE AND THE HOTEL USE IN THIS BUILDING.

FROM WHAT I'VE LEARNED, UM, SO THE ACCESS IS FOR BOTH GROUPS OF PEOPLE OR MAYBE 'CAUSE WE'RE A MIXED USE BUILDING.

WE ARE A TRANSIENT BUILDING.

ALL OF OUR HOTEL GUESTS ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTS AS WELL.

THEY'RE JUST RENTING SHORT TERM.

BUT EVERYBODY WHO HAS AND RESIDENCY IN THE BUILDING, WE WOULD PROBABLY GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS HOTEL GUESTS AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED THE SAME.

MAYBE NOT AT THE SAME TIME.

MAYBE WE'LL HAVE HOURS FOR HOTEL GUESTS, MAYBE HAVE HOURS FOR RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S MAINLY DESIGNATED FOR RESIDENTS.

HOW, HOW DO YOU GET TO THIS SPACE? CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE, UM, HOW SOMEBODY WOULD GET TO THE SPACE? THERE IS AN ELEVATOR LEADING FROM THE BAR AREA, FROM THE MAIN BAR AND IT WAS ALWAYS SINCE BE OPENED, DESIGNATED AS A KIND OF A MEMBER SPACE OR A RESIDENT SPACE.

SO WE'RE NOT USING IT DIFFERENTLY THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED.

IT WAS ALWAYS DESIGNATED FOR THAT PURPOSE, BUT IT WAS NEVER SHADED.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, YEAH, RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS LIKE FOR PUTTING SOME PLANTERS UP THERE WITH SOME TREES OR SOMETHING TO YEAH, OF COURSE.

WE'LL MAKE IT LOOK PRETTY.

I'M SURE WE DO SOME LANDSCAPING THERE AS WELL.

THERE ANYTHING LIKE NOTHING, NOTHING IF NOTHING VERY LARGE, SO.

UM, YEAH, I SEE THE, I SEE THE ELEVATOR.

SO ARE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UM, OR, YES, LINDSAY? SO I HAVE A, A QUESTION I NOTE HERE.

UM, NO ALCOHOL SALE AT ALL.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS FAR AS THE SUBMISSION, THERE'S WILL BE NO ALCOHOL SALES IN THIS SPACE.

THERE'S NOTHING PLANNED? YES, CORRECT.

I MEAN, IS THERE A PROFIT THAT, LIKE IT WON'T, THAT IT, THAT IT WON'T BE LIKE, THAT WON'T BE A FUTURE? WE, WE HAVEN'T PLANNED TO BUILD A BAR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO FOR NOW, NO.

MAYBE WE'LL WOULD AT ONE POINT INVITE OUR RESIDENT SOMETHING LIKE THEY WOULD COME BACK US, BUT IT'S NOT A, NOT A RESTAURANT VENUE.

SO TWO QUICK THINGS TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS QUESTIONS.

IF THEY WERE TO PROPOSE A BAR COUNTER OUTSIDE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.

IF THEY WERE TO PROPOSE THIS AS PART OF ONE OF THEIR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, IT WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

SO, UH, AND I'M, MAYBE THIS IS 'CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A ROOFTOP.

UM, IT WOULD BE A ROOFTOP ALCOHOLIC 'CAUSE BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, I GUESS.

DEBBIE, DEBBIE, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I JUST, I'M NOT SURE THAT I UN UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION.

SO AN OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OKAY.

WOULD REQUIRE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD IF THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, A TEMPORARY BAR STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE FOR CERTAIN EVENTS AND WHATNOT YOU'RE SAYING OR UNLESS IT'S PART OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, THAT WOULD BE VERY TEMPORARILY IT WOULD REQUIRE GOING THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD REVIEW.

THE, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE BAR, BUT THEY JUST WANTED TO CONNECT THE SPACES WITH ANOTHER BAR AND, AND BRING ALCOHOLIC SERVICE UP HERE AS PART OF A ESTABLISHMENT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING BOARD.

SO PLANNING BOARD, IF THEY'RE GONNA SELL ALCOHOL UP HERE, PLANNING BOARD IS GONNA BE REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS IS A ROOFTOP THAT IS WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

SO THIS, IF THEY'RE GONNA SELL ALCOHOL HERE, REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD.

A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE TO SERVE AS A BAR WOULD REQUIRE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD IN THIS SIMILAR MANNER THAT THIS CANOPY IS BEFORE YOU.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE YOU JUST SAID THERE, THE ACCESS TO IT, IT'S AN ELEVATOR FROM YOUR LOBBY BAR.

FROM YOUR DOWNSTAIRS BAR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO HAD PUBLIC ELEVATOR GOING FROM THE LOBBY TO THAT FLOOR AND IT ALSO HAS A STAIRCASE.

MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEFINE.

SO IF I'M A, A RESIDENT OR A GUEST AND I GO TO THE BAR, I CAN GET A DRINK AND THEN GO UPSTAIRS AND SIT UNDER THE SHADED AREA.

NO QUESTION.

I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF THIS TO BE HONEST, BUT THE ELEVATOR IS KEY.

KEY, SO YOU NEED A KEY TO GET UP.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IF I'M A RESIDENT OR A GUEST, SO IF I HAVE ACCESS TO THE SPACE, OTHERWISE, YEAH, I MEAN IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT.

I DIDN'T REALLY THINK OF THAT AT ALL, BUT

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SO.

IT, UM, AND THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE, BUT THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE SELLING IT THERE.

THERE'D JUST BE PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND.

EVEN IF THEY WERE SELLING IT, IT WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR US BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A PHYSICAL BAR COUNTER.

I JUST WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE AND THE USE.

SO WE HAVE A ROOFTOP, WE HAVE A ROOFTOP AWNING ON A BUSY INTERSECTION.

UM, AND UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? RIGHT? DID WE, DID WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? I'M SORRY.

OH YEAH.

OH, WE DID.

AND THERE WERE, I THINK WE DID BECAUSE WE, WE WENT BACKWARDS.

WE DID AND WE, I I DO SEE A HAND.

DANIEL ERALDO, I SEE YOUR HAND RAISED.

DANIEL, YOU REMAIN UNDER OATH.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UM, DANIEL SERATO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.

WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE'VE SEEN THE CANOPIES IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES AND IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE REQUEST.

OKAY, SO WE HAD CLOSED.

YEAH, THE PROBLEM WAS WE HAD CLOSED THE BOARD, CLOSED THE COMMENTS, AND THEN WE REOPENED THEM.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR INDULGING US.

AND UH, RAY DO WE STILL HAVE YOU ON DECK FOR A, UM, FOR MAKING THE MOTION TO APPROVE? APPROVE MAKING MOTION.

OKAY, LET ME CALL THE ROLE.

ONE FINAL APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA, UH, THIS MORNING.

OKAY, MR. CHAIR, WE'RE MOVING RATHER QUICKLY TODAY.

UM, WE DO HAVE

[5. HPB24-0619, 761 Jefferson Avenue.]

IT IS HPV 24 0 6 1 9.

THIS IS 7 61 JEFFERSON AVENUE.

AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS, WAS, IS CON, IS CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1936 AND DESIGNED BY HENRY HO HAUSER IN THE ART DECO STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE.

UH, THE BUILDING REMAINS, UH, RELATIVELY INTACT FROM ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WINDOW AND DOORS, UH, WHICH WERE REPLACED OVER TIME.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE, I THINK THE BIGGER STORY HERE, AND I KNOW THIS IS TRUE FOR, UH, THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, IS THE BUILDING HAS BEEN IN DECLINE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IT HAS BEEN QUITE A NUISANCE AND, UM, ALSO HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT OF A DRAIN ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.

UM, WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES.

I KNOW THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF.

UM, VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN ISSUED.

THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN, UH, BUILDING VIOLATIONS ISSUED.

UM, AND THAT INCLUDES AN UNSAFE STRUCTURES VIOLATION THAT WAS ISSUED IN 2022.

UM, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP AND I, I THINK WE'VE MET WITH THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVES ON MANY OCCASIONS.

UH, WE WERE ACTUALLY VERY OPTIMISTIC AFTER OUR, OUR INITIAL MEETINGS THAT THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS THE BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH, WHICH ARE IN THE, UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP AND IN SIMILAR SITUATION, UM, THAT THE PROPOSAL WAS TO RETAIN, RESTORE THESE BUILDINGS AND BRING THEM BACK TO ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, SO WE THINK OVERALL THIS IS VERY POSITIVE NEWS.

UM, THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THIS, UM, STAFF HAS REVIEWED BUILDING PERMITS FOR THOSE.

UH, THE SCOPE OF WORK IS ABLE TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO EXPEDITE THAT AND GET THOSE BUILDINGS, UH, REPAIRED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THIS CURRENT BUILDING, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES, SPECIFICALLY THE WINDOW OPENING CONFIGURATION.

UM, WHILE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THESE WINDOW OPENINGS, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT

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WE DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AT AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.

UM, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE, THE NEW WINDOW SIZES THAT ARE, THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED ARE SOMEWHAT ALIEN TO THE, TO THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE, UM, RELATIONSHIP OF THE NEW OPENINGS TO THE HORIZONTAL BANDING ON THE SIDE, UM, BE RETAINED.

UH, STAFF WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE SIZE OF THE WINDOWS, UH, BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXIST WITH THE EXISTING WINDOW OPENING SIZES.

UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LARGER, UM, WINDOWS WOULD BE THE SIX FOOT WIDE WINDOWS AND THAT THE NEW BATHROOM WINDOWS WOULD BE THE APPROXIMATELY ONE FOOT SIX BY THREE FOOT THREE OPENINGS.

SO THEY WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION, BUT AT LEAST THE PROPORTION OF THE OPENINGS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE.

UM, AND SO THAT'S OUR ONLY COMMENT.

BUT OVERALL, UM, I WANNA THANK THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR TEAM FOR REALLY TRYING TO GET THIS BUILDING ALL THREE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT IN THE PARTICULAR, THIS BUILDING, UH, BACK ONLINE AND REPAIRED AND AN ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN INSTEAD OF A NUISANCE.

GREAT.

IS THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, FOR DEBBIE BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE START? NO.

YOU GUYS IS THE FACADE AND THE POSITION OF THE WINDOWS.

NO QUESTIONS.

SO WELCOME AND PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU'RE WELCOME TO PRESENT.

YEAH, GOOD MORNING, UH, BOARD AND STAFF.

UH, MY NAME IS PEDRO VILLA AND I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, WITH OFFICES AT 30 50 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.

AND, UH, WITH ME HERE TODAY, I HAVE THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH ARE CHRIS MARY PASCARELLA AND FRANCESCA TAG LABU AS WELL.

UM, SO AS, AS AS YOU HEARD, UH, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THIS BUILDING, UH, BACK IN APRIL OF 2022, UM, AT AN AUCTION.

AND THE BUILDING HAD SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY ON THE INTERIOR.

UH, HAD RECEIVED A LITANY OF VIOLATIONS AND CITATIONS AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, TRIED IT THE BEST WE CAN TO WORK THROUGH THAT, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRYING TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM.

UM, THIS PROPERTY, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1936 AND IS LOCATED IN THE, UH, FLAMINGO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT IS A, UH, TWO STORY MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.

IT HAS 12 UNITS, UH, AND IT'S IN THE RM ONE ZONING DISTRICT.

ONCE WE GOT THROUGH A LOT OF THE INITIAL ISSUES WITH THE VIOLATIONS AND BECAUSE A LOT OF IT WAS INTERIOR ISSUES, WE HAD TO ACTUALLY RELOCATE TENANTS AND SORT OF GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

UM, THE TEAM STARTED TO REALLY WORK ON DESIGNING, UH, A BUILDING THAT WOULD REVITALIZE THIS BUILDING, UH, AND MAINTAIN THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AS THEY WERE DOING THAT.

UH, WE ALSO STARTED TO CONTACT LOCAL LEADERS IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENSURE THAT GROUPS LIKE THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, THE MERIDIAN CORE COMMUNITY AND THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT, UH, ON THE PLAN AS WELL AS PROVIDE INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

AND I'D, I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK ACTUALLY MR. SCOTT NEEDLEMAN, UH, AS WELL AS MR. JOHAN MOORE AND DAVID ERALDO FOR ALL SORT OF FACILITATING THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PROVIDING INPUT AND SPENDING TIME WITH US TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THIS DESIGN FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THEIR SUPPORT AS WELL AS THAT, OF THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, AS CHRIS MARY FRANCESCA WILL EXPLAIN, UH, IN, IN GREATER DETAIL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A RENOVATION AND RESTORATION.

THERE IS SOME EXTERIOR, WHICH IS WHY, WHY WE'RE HERE.

BUT MOSTLY IT'S TRYING TO BRING BACK THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SPLENDOR OF THAT BUILDING AND TRYING TO KEEP IT LOOKING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS IT DID HISTORICALLY.

AND REALLY BRINGING THE FLOORS, NEW WINDOWS AND NEW DOORS WHILE MAINTAINING ALL THESE ACCENTS AND, AND HISTORIC DETAILS.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO CHRIS MARY.

GOOD MORNING, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS CHRIS MARI PASCARELLA AND I'M REPRESENTING PLUS STUDIO 2125 PISCA BOULEVARD.

AND, UM, THANK YOU.

THIS IS, UH, A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING ON THE CORNER AND IT HAS A VERY SIMILAR BUILDING ON THE OTHER CORNER.

THIS BUILDING WAS DESIGNED BY HENRY HO HAUSER IN 1936.

UH, WHEN, UH, UH, THE OWNER PURCHASED THIS, UH, BUILDING, UH, IT WAS IN, IN A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, STRUCTURAL AND, UH, SITUATION.

SO WITH THE HELP OF A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, THE OWNER'S INPUT, WE DECIDED TO BRING BACK THIS BUILDING AND WE SUBMITTED, WE'D RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, AND WE FOLLOW THEIR INSTRUCTIONS.

SO I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR

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SO WE ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS AND BY DOING SO, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, KEEP THE SIZES, THE CORRECT SIZES OF THOSE WINDOWS AND ALIGN IT ACCORDINGLY.

THEY DO FOLLOW THE NEW LAYOUT, BUT THEY'RE EXACTLY AS THE ORIGINAL.

SO THE BUILDING IS LOCATED IN 7 61 JEFFERSON AVENUE, AND IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING FROM 1936.

UH, WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE CURRENT AND THE PROPOSED, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

WE'RE JUST MAKING IT MORE BEAUTIFUL.

WE'RE PRESERVING ALL THE, THE ART DECO MOTIFS.

WE ARE KEEPING THE STRIPES, WE'RE KEEPING THE, THE MOTIF THAT ARE ON TOP OF THE FACADE.

SO LET ME SHOW YOU THE FRONT FACADE AND THE BACK FACADE REMAIN EXACTLY THE SAME.

WE'RE JUST GONNA REPAIR THE SUCCO, REPAIR ALL THOSE ORNAMENTATION.

BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

EVEN THE WINDOWS SIZES ARE THE SAME.

THE, THIS IS OUR RENDERING OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND THESE ARE THE FACADES THAT ARE CHANGING THE NORTH FACADE AND THE SOUTH FACADE.

AND IN RED YOU COULD SEE THE WINDOWS, THE NEW WINDOWS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE NEW WINDOWS.

AND THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD BEFORE WAS DECISIS.

'CAUSE THEY WERE LIKE COUPLE OF INCHES BIGGER OR WIDER.

SO WE ADDRESSED THAT AND NOW IT LOOKS MORE COHESIVE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE BACK FACADE.

THE BACK FACADE HAS VERY LIMITED STRIPES.

WE ARE CONTINUING, UH, PRESERVING THOSE STRIPES AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD FACADE AND THE NEW FACADE.

NOW THOSE CHANGES HAPPEN BECAUSE ALL THE BATHROOMS WERE NOT COMPLIANT TO CURRENT SIZES.

THE AVERAGE SIZE WAS LIKE THREE AND A HALF BY SIX.

AND IN THERE YOU HAD A SHOWER, A SINK, A TOILET.

IT WAS NOT REALLY WORKABLE.

AND WHAT WE DID, WE ADDED A LARGER BATHROOM AND WE ADDED CENTRAL AC AND A WASHER AND DRYER.

SO BECAUSE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, RECONFIGURATIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE THE WINDOWS ACCORDINGLY.

AND THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE FACADE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NOT CHANGING IT, WE'RE JUST IMPROVING UPON IT.

AND ALSO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE IF WE COULD RAISE THE, THE FIRST FLOOR A LITTLE BIT, HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TOLERANCE IN THE CEILING TO DO SO, 'CAUSE WE'RE ADDING CENTRAL AC SO THEREFORE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH CLEARANCE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE APARTMENT.

AND THEN IF WE, LET'S SAY, PUSH IT TO THE OTHER TWO, THEN WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE SCS ON THE ROOF SIDE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS IT IS.

THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF THE UNITS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BATHROOMS CAN BE ENTERED FROM BOTH SIDES.

WE HAVE WASHER AND DRYER AND WE HAVE A CENTRAL AC SUPER SIMPLE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY THE, THE WINDOWS CHANGED.

AND AS A LANDSCAPE, I WANNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE.

'CAUSE WE HAVE EMBELLISHED WITH, WITH TREES AND WITH ROBS, UM, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.

AND THESE ARE THE TREES AND PLANTING AND SHR THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS? WE HAVE 12 UNITS.

WHY IS THERE ONLY EIGHT AIR CONDITIONERS ON THE ROOF? OH, THAT, THAT IT'S BY MISTAKE.

I GUESS I, I'M MISSING MORE.

YEAH, THERE'S ONLY, YEAH, THERE'S ONLY EIGHT ON THE ROOF ALL SO I'LL, IT'S JUST, I'LL CHECK.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU SHOWED MM-HMM.

, UM, I'M GUESSING IT WAS THE RENDERING OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW PLAN, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

BECAUSE IT HAD THE MORE SQUARE BATHROOM WINDOWS, CORRECT.

AS OPPOSED TO RECTANGULAR.

WE RECEIVED THE REPORT AND WE JUST RECENTLY CHANGED IT.

DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT? DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, JUST TO SEE? YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN GO BACK TO IT JUST SO EVERYONE SEES IT.

YEAH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE MAYBE SLIDE 15, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY HARD

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TO SEE.

BUT THE, YOU SEE THE SMALL WINDOW, WINDOW WINDOW THAT IS SQUARE NOW IS RETIRED.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE OLD ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE, OR NOT OLD ONE, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE RENDERING OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN, RIGHT BEFORE THEY FIXED THE WINDOWS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WE OH, SO THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S NOT WITH THE NEW WINDOWS.

CAN YOU SHOW THAT WITH THE NEW WINDOWS? NO, I DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT RENDERING.

, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING THAT DOES SHOW THE YES.

ESPECIALLY THAT FACADE.

'CAUSE THAT'S A STREET FACADE, RIGHT? SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IF WE LOOK AT THE BACK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO A, A ELEVATION? I THINK THAT WOULD BE, OH YEAH, SURE.

PROBABLY HELP.

YEAH, LIKE, OKAY.

THERE, SO YOU SEE THE ELEVATION NOW IN THE ELEVATION? THEY CAN, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT IS THE ORANGE AND WHAT IS THE OKAY, SO THE, THE RED IS THE NEW PROPOSED OPENINGS.

SOME OF THEM MATCH AND UH, THAT AND THEN ALL THE OTHER IS WHAT WE ARE CLOSING AND PATCHING AND, AND FIXING AND PRESERVING.

SO THESE ARE THE WINDOWS IN, IN IN QUESTION BECAUSE IN MY RENDERINGS THEY ARE A LITTLE SQUARE THEN AS THEY'RE, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE IT MORE AS THEY WERE BEFORE, RIGHT? AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.

SO WE WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SIZE, IT JUST SHIFTED A BIT.

SO THE, JUST BECAUSE, JUST BECAUSE ON THE SCREEN UP THERE, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

SO THE TOP WITH THE RED IS SHOWING THE, THE NEW LOCATION, THE NEW, THE NEW OPENINGS LAID OVER THE EXISTING OPENINGS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM IS THE ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSAL WITH THE CORRECTED OPENINGS? CORRECT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING IT.

SO THE BOTTOM IS THE NEW IS WHAT THE NEW, UH, THAT NEW FACADE WILL BE.

AND THE, AND THE TOP IS JUST THE RED OVERLAID WITH THE EXISTING.

EXACTLY.

SO THE RED SHOULD MATCH, THE RED ON TOP SHOULD MATCH THE WINDOWS IN THE, IN THE BOTTOM ELEVATIONAL DRAWING.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

EVERYBODY GET THAT RIGHT.

SO YEAH, THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY, UH, CRITICAL THING.

SO ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT, ELIZABETH? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE APPLICANT OR DEBBIE.

'CAUSE ON THE SIDE, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE SETBACKS ARE NON-CONFORMING.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO DO THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR VARIANCE, A WAIVER? HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT DEMOLISHING ANY SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING.

THEY'RE ALLOWED TO RETAIN THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING SETBACKS.

EVERYTHING IS GONE FURTHER.

YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF, OF HAVING, OWNING A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING WITH NONCONFORMITIES.

GREAT.

UM, OKAY.

AND, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATION.

UM, NOW ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

I JUST NOTICED THAT THE, SO THEY WERE ASKED TO RAISE THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEY CAN'T, AND I UNDERSTAND THE LIMITATIONS OF COURSE BEING AN OLD BUILDING.

SO ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS TO, UM, IMPROVE THE RESILIENCE OF A BUILDING LIKE THAT? UM, SINCE WE CANNOT TRACE, BUT AT LEAST TO DRIVE, UH, FLOOD PROOFING IT OR SOMETHING? IS THERE A REQUIREMENT ON THE CODE? AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S PROBABLY THAT WOULD BE A BUILDING REQUIREMENT.

RIGHT? THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.

WE DO NOT HAVE THEM IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, BUT IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME DRY FLOOD PROOFING.

ADDRESSING WHAT WAS THE SINGLE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF NEGLECTED BUILDINGS AND VACANT BUILDINGS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THE, UM, THE DRY FLOOD PROOFING WOULD HAPPEN IN ANY PUBLIC INTERIOR.

SO WOULD IT ALSO HAPPEN IN PRIVATE INTERIOR? IT WOULD BE ANY PORTION THAT'S BELOW THE REQUIRED BASE FLOOD PLUS FREEBOARD? YES.

OKAY, GOT IT.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WITH THAT THERE'S NO MORE, UH, NO DISCLOSURES AND I THINK NO MORE QUESTIONS.

SO ANY, UM, PUBLIC UH, COMMENTS? UM, MR. CHAIR? I SEE JOHANN MOORE ON ZOOM.

GOOD MORNING, JOHANN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? YES, THANK MORNING ALL.

UH, I'M SPEAKING IN THIS INSTANCE ON BEHALF OF MERIDIAN COURT COMMUNITY, WHICH I CO-FOUNDED.

UH, WE WERE FOUNDED IN RESPONSE TO THIS THREE BUILDING SLUM, WHICH ON THE TESTIMONY OF ONE OF ITS FORMER RESIDENTS, WAS NEGLECTED BY ITS PREVIOUS OWNERS FOR 30 YEARS.

WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL, UH, TO POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO CODE AND TO THIS BOARD, UH, AS WELL AS TO THE NEW OWNERS, UH, THE ATTORNEY, THE ARCHITECT, UH, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK IN

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WE ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.

WE ENTHUSIASTICALLY WELCOME OUR NEW NEIGHBORS.

WE ARE ESPECIALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGNS, FOCUS ON THE GREEN ASPECTS OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT RESTORING THESE THREE CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS AS DEFACTO MIXED INCOME HOUSING, UH, PREDOMINANTLY THE OWNER'S OWN WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, WILL BE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

JOHANN, I SEE DANIEL ERALDO.

HI DANIEL, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEMBERS, WE, DANIEL ERALDO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.

WE, UH, MET WITH THE APPLICANTS AND WE WANNA THANK THEM.

UH, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT RESILIENCE, SOME PEOPLE THINK ABOUT RESILIENCE FOR THE YEAR 2080.

UH, I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT HAVING HOUSING TODAY.

AND SO THE ABILITY THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT THESE DOZENS OF UNITS BACK ONLINE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY RESILIENT IN, IN OUR OPINION, AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO THE OWNERSHIP.

UM, THE CHANGE IN THE, THE WINDOW OPENINGS IS, UM, IS SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE, BUT IF THIS WAS A MID BLOCK BLOCK BUILDING, IT WOULD NOT REALLY HAVE, UH, THE VISIBILITY TO, TO THAT SIDE THAT IT HAS BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SIDE STREET.

BUT WE THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB, UH, BALANCING THAT ALL OUT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE STAFF.

ONE COMMENT WE DID SHARE WITH THEM IS WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD USE THE WINDOW MOUNTAINS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE THREE DIMENSIONAL RATHER THAN SOME OF THE NEWER ONES WE SEE THAT ARE VERY FLAT AND GLUED ON AND DON'T LOOK AS, UH, REALISTIC.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WILL, UH, BE PART OF THE APPROVAL.

ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE SO HAPPY TO SEE MORE RESILIENT HOUSING COMING BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.

UM, THANK YOU.

I DON'T IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO BASE UPON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO NOW.

BUT OTHERWISE I THINK WE'LL JUST OPEN IT UP TO, UM, TO BOARD.

YES TO BOARD.

UM, THE O ONLY THING THAT I WASN'T HAPPY ABOUT IS THE PAINTING OF, OF THE BUILDING.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE BIG WIDE BLUE STRIPE RIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING, I'D LIKE TO SEE TWO COLORS OF BLUE OR GO BACK TO THE BACKGROUND COLOR, THE BUILDING COLOR IN THE MIDDLE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BIG, HUGE WIDE BLUE STRIPE DOWN THE MIDDLE.

I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UM, NOT GIVING ENOUGH, UH, REPRESENTATION OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ARCHITECTURE THERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND, UM, THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORS FOR PROVIDING, UM, THAT BACKGROUND.

I THINK IT'S CRITICAL FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY FOLLOWING HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW, ALL THE WINDOW OPENINGS SHOULD BE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

I THINK, UM, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND I ACTUALLY THINK YOUR DESIGN IS BETTER THAN THE HISTORIC, UM, WITH THE WINDOW OPENINGS, TO BE HONEST.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF HENRY HO HAUSER WOULD EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM, UM, WITH, WITH THESE ADAPTATIONS, BUT, UM, I WOULD PERSONALLY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF HEAR WHAT THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THINK, BUT I THINK YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

AND, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE OWNERS FOR REALLY TAKING ON.

IT'S A, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY, UM, THANK YOU, UH, A MASSIVE ENDEAVOR TO UNDERTAKE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.

THANK YOU , THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT.

ANYTIME YOU ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M ALL FOR IT.

AND I THINK YOU'RE, UM, COMPLYING WITH MOST OF, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS IF NOT ALL.

SO I APPLAUD YOU AND I SUPPORT YOU.

THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I ACTUALLY WAS CURIOUS, UH, FURTHER TO, UM, I GUESS WELL WE'VE CLOSE THIS PART, THE, HAVEN'T WE, UH, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE BOARD COMING TO EACH OTHER.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS, UNLESS YOU REALLY A QUESTION.

WELL, I JUST ECHOING OFF OF RAY'S COMMON EARLIER, I, I'M SEEING ACTUALLY LIKE A GRAY TREATMENT ON THE,

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ON THE FACADE.

ONE PLACE THEY SHOW GRAY ONE PLACE.

THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

SAY LIKE, THE REAL, THE REAL COLOR IS, IS BLUE.

SO WHAT, WHAT PAGE SHOULD WE LOOK AT? LIKE FOR THE MOST ACCURATE FOR THE BLUE ONE? THIS ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, YES.

I DID NOT SEE THAT PAGE.

UH, WELL YOU CAN COME BACK WITH MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

ELIZABETH.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION.

IS THE BLUE THE ORIGINAL COLOR ON THE BUILDING OR THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING? THE BLUE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROPOSE.

'CAUSE THE BLUE IS THE COLOR OF THE OWNER.

LIKE SHE HAS SEVERAL COMPANIES AND THAT'S THE COLOR THAT SHE USES THROUGHOUT.

SO IT'S LIKE HER BRANDING.

SO IT'S, AND IT WAS USED BEFORE.

SO IF WE, YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER PICTURES OF THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN YELLOW, ORANGE, GREEN AND BLUE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE JUST SETTLED FOR THE BLUE.

I SEE.

SO I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BLUE, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE BLUE, THE COLOR, THE PAINT BLUE IS DIFFERENT OF THE BLUE OF THE A.

SO IT CREATES A NICE CONSTRUC CONTRAST.

CONTRAST IN THERE.

AND I KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE PUTTING IN BRINGING THIS BUILDING BACK TO LIFE AND CONGRATULATIONS.

I, I KNOW, I KNOW JOHANN SPOKE EARLIER AND I KNOW, I KNOW THE HISTORY OF THEM TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THESE THREE BUILDINGS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT THIS TEAM HAS PUT INTO BRINGING THESE BUILDINGS BACK TO THEIR FORMER GLORY.

I REALLY DO.

UM, I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'LL DEFER TO LAURA AS THE ARCHITECT, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHETHER OR THAT SHE LIKES THE NEW WINDOWS BETTER.

BUT I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS MADE TO STAY IN KEEPING WITH SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE, EVEN IF YOU HAD TO SHIFT OR A, A LITTLE BIT, UM, RATHER THAN KIND OF A WHOLESALE CHANGE.

UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE COLOR SCHEME OR THE, OR THE BLOCK OF BLUE.

UM, AND, AND THIS ISN'T REALLY ANYTHING I, I WAS CURIOUS, THIS IS JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION.

UM, WHETHER THE PLAN IS TO STUCCO AND THEN PAINT, OR IF IT'S GONNA BE THE COLORED STUCCO.

UM, STO I THINK IS ONE OF THE BRANDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PLAN FOR THAT MATERIALITY, UM, HOW THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO THAT.

UM, WE WERE JUST THINKING ABOUT PAINT, BUT NOW THAT'S A GOOD OPTION.

THE ONLY REASON I BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE I KNOW MY BUILDING WHEN WE REDID IT UHHUH .

SO WE HAVE WHITE STUCCO AND THEN WE HAVE THIS GREEN STUCCO.

OH.

UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY PROS AND CONS TO IT AND I WON'T WEIGH INTO WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I JUST WAS CURIOUS.

UM, AND, UH, I'LL JUST, UH, CHIME IN AND SAY HOW, UM, IMPRESSED I AM WITH THE, WITH THE WAY THE PROJECT IS, UM, COMING TOGETHER.

WE RARELY SEE PROJECTS THAT DON'T, DON'T ADD SIGNIFICANTLY TO FAR THAT KIND OF TRY TO, UM, KIND OF REUSE THE EXISTING FABRIC AS IT IS, UM, TO BETTER THE, UM, TO BETTER THE LIFE IN OUR, IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND, UH, SO I REALLY, I COMMEND YOU AND YOU AND YOUR, AND YOUR, UH, CLIENT AND, UM, I THINK THAT I I AGREE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THAT THE HISTORIC FACADE HAS A KIND OF RHYTHM TO IT THAT'S A LITTLE, UM, A A SYNCOPATION AS YOU, AS YOU SAY, IN MUSIC WHERE THERE'S LARGE AND SMALL AND LARGE AND SMALL AND, UM, IT'S, UH, IN A, IN A KIND OF, IN A RHYTHMIC PATTERN.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THANKFULLY WE HAVE ON THAT, ON THAT, UM, STREET FACADE.

WE HAVE THE, THE BANDS TO FOLLOW.

AND THE WAY IN WHICH THIS IS FOLLOWING THE BANDS AND INCREASING, UM, INCREASING LIGHT IN THE APARTMENTS, I, I THINK IS, IS A REAL BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.

AND I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE HAVE THIS STRUCTURAL CONDITION THAT WE KNOW WAS PART OF THE GUIDELINES.

ALMOST LIKE A MUSIC, LIKE IT'S A DATUM.

UM, SO WE, UH, I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, UH, IMPORTANT AND I I I NOTICED THAT YOU KEPT SOME OF THE OPENINGS WHERE THERE, WHERE THE IN-WALL AIR CONDITIONING UNITS IN THERE, I'M SURE THEY'LL BE GONE.

UM, CORRECT.

IN THE FINAL, UH, RENDERING TO, AND, AND THAT EVERYONE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, .

AND, UM, AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW YOU, AND HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER WORK WITH STAFF OR, OR, OR NOT ON THE, ON THE WET FLOOD PROOFING, CONSIDERING THAT THIS WILL POTENTIALLY BECOME WET BECAUSE IT'S VERY LOW LYING.

HAPPY THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND APPRECIATIVE THAT WE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE THIS EXAMPLE, UH, TO SHOW OTHERS AS TO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT CAN BE LIKE.

AND HOW AND HOW IT DRIES, UH, DRIES EASILY.

SO THIS, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY GREAT EXPERIMENT AND I'M MM-HMM.

, UH, VERY

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SO, UM, WITH THAT, I, UH, I'M ACCEPTING ANY MOTIONS, I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE WITH, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND.

LET ME CALL THE ROLL.

MR. ? YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

AND I WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT, WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE DAY WITHOUT ONE VARIATION.

STEWART, STEWART REED WOULD BE VERY PROUD.

UM, MR. CHAIR, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, UH, TODAY.

I WAS GONNA SAY THIS AFTERNOON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NOON YET.

UM, SO UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING.