* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. 3, 2, 1. [00:00:05] OKAY. ARE WE LIVE? NOW? I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY TO, UH, TAKE THEIR SEATS, GET READY. UH, WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER FINANCE ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE. UH, HAPPY FRIDAY. WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL WEATHER HERE. EXCITED FOR THE WEEKEND. UH, FROM A FERC PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE APPROACHING THE END OF OUR BUDGET SEASON, SO, UH, EXCITING TIMES. WE'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY BUSY. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS. UM, SO LET'S GET TODAY KICKED OFF. UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR, UH, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER COME IN. SO WE WANT TO JUST TAKE SOME THINGS WHERE THEY'RE MORE UPDATING WISE, UH, MR. CFO. I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO YOU ON THE CITY ATTORNEY TO KICK US OFF HERE. AND THEN WE WILL, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WE, UH, GET OUT OF THE WAY FIRST. OKAY. I THINK, UH, DO WE HAVE SOME, UH, MEETING NOTES OR RECORDS TO REREAD IN THE RECORD FIRST, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE NOTES TOO. SURE. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, AND THE REMAINING MEMBERS, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, VIRTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 TOLL THREE, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. UH, THANK YOU. UH, TWO NOTES. [NB 13. DISCUSS THE CREATION OF INCENTIVES TO ESTABLISH MIAMI BEACH AS THE LOCAL HUB FOR WORLD CUP 2026] UH, NUMBER NB 13 IS DEFERRED. N UH, NB ONE HAS A TIME CERTAIN OF 12 NOON. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. THAT'S THE ONLY NOTES I HAVE. F [NB 9. DISCUSS STEPS THAT COULD BE TAKEN TO ENHANCE THE IDENTIFICATION OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH] EXCELLENT. WHY DON'T WE GET STARTED? CAN WE HAVE AN UPDATE? UH, LET'S GET TO THE ONE FOR AN UPDATE ON THE GRANT STATUS OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS. UH, CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE NB NINE. DISCUSS STEPS THAT COULD BE TAKEN TO ENHANCE THE IDENTIFICATION OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND B NINE. AND WE HAVE, UH, CHRIS DOBBINS, OUR GRANTS DIVISION DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE, UH, AN UPDATE. THIS SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. CRYSTAL DOBBINS, GRANTS MANAGEMENT DIVISION DIRECTOR. UM, TODAY I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION REGARDING OUR APPROACH TO SECURING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AS REFERRED, UH, TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE ON JULY 24TH, AT THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER LAURA DOMINGUEZ, THE COMMISSIONER REFERRED THIS ITEM TO THE COMMITTEE. OUR CITY, MIAMI BEACH ACTIVELY SEEKS VARIOUS GRANTS FROM FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL SOURCES TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR IDENTIFYING THESE OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING A THOROUGH REVIEW OF AVAILABLE GRANTS AND AN INTERNAL COORDINATION PROCESS TO MATCH THEM WITH OUR NEEDS. OUR GRANTS TEAM PLAYS A CRUCIAL ROLE IN THIS PROCESS, STAYING UPDATED ON NEW FUNDING SOURCES, REVIEWING GRANT NOTICES, AND PREPARING COMPREHENSIVE APPLICATIONS. UM, TO ENSURE WE ARE EFFECTIVE IN SECURING THESE GRANTS, WE ENGAGE IN BEST PRACTICES, INCLUDING CONDUCTING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AT THE START OF EACH FISCAL YEAR AND CONTINUOUSLY EVALUATING OUR GRANT RESEARCH AND APPLICATION METHODS. WE ALSO MAKE USE OF, UM, ADVANCED TOOLS AND DATABASES AND PARTICIPATE IN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. UM, OUR EFFORTS ARE SUPPORTED BY BIWEEKLY INTERNAL MEETINGS WITH ALL DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, WHERE WE REVIEW PRIORITY PROJECTS AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. WE STRIVE TO MAXIMIZE EXTERNAL FUNDING TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND MAINTAIN FINANCIAL STABILITY. UM, YOU'LL SEE ATTACHED, WE PROVIDED THE LISTING THAT OF ALL OF THE GRANTS WE'VE APPLIED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, TOTALING ABOUT $64 MILLION. UM, AND TO DATE, WE'VE BEEN AWARDED A LITTLE BIT OVER $20 MILLION. EXCELLENT. AND THOSE NUMBERS TEND TO BE PRETTY LUMPY, UH, IN TERMS OF ONE YEAR COULD BE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, THE OTHER COULD BE INCREASED BY 200, UH, PERCENT. UM, HOW CAN WE GET BETTER? RIGHT. WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. EXCELLENT. CONGRATS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. OUTLINE SOME STEPS WHERE WE CAN GET BETTER. WHERE, WHERE'S THE LOW HANGING FRUIT WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, NOT HAPPY MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO. YOU KNOW, WE ALL HEAR ABOUT THESE, UH, HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR, UH, THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, BILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT MORE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL WHERE THEY'RE APPLYING FOR IT AND THEN WE LOOK FOR THEIR ALLOCATION? SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THERE. ONE OF [00:05:01] THE THINGS THAT, UM, JASON AND I HAVE DONE IS INCREASED OUR COMMUNICATION IN TERMS OF OUR FEDERAL AND OUR STATE LOBBYISTS. UM, WE'VE INCREASED OUR COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CONGRESSWOMAN AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IN TERMS OF WHEN WE ARE APPLYING FOR PROJECTS, WE MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE TO THEM THE APPLICATIONS WE PROVIDE FOR SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE US THINGS LIKE SUPPORT LETTERS SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF. IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING, IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE STATE FUNDING, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON, UH, WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE, UM, THAT YEAR, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OF THOSE, UM, IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE NECESSARY GUIDANCE AND THE THINGS AND THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO APPLY FOR SO THAT THEY CAN INCREASE OUR CHANCES OF GETTING THE FUNDING THAT IS OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE. UM, SOMETIMES THERE ARE, UH, DYNAMICS WHERE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GET THINGS THAT HONESTLY WE JUST ARE NOT GOING TO GET BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, WHEREAS WE'RE JUST, UM, A CITY THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING. SO THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THEY WILL HAVE A LEG UP IN TERMS OF GETTING THOSE TYPES OF FUNDING. AND, AND CRYSTAL, DO YOU WORK HAND IN HAND NOW WITH, UH, UM, OUR NEW LEGISLATIVE LIAISON? YES, PETER. OKAY, PERFECT. IF, UH, I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES ASK YOU IF THEY WANNA BRING ANYTHING UP, BUT IF, UH, I CAN HAVE A REQUEST FROM YOU, UH, WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH PETER MM-HMM. , UH, OUTLINE ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE'VE BEEN THE PAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT OUR NUMBERS HAVE BEEN, WHERE SOME OF THOSE KEY, UH, GRANT ALLOCATIONS HAVE COME FROM. MM-HMM. , AND ALSO WHAT OUR ESSENTIAL GOALS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS ARE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY, ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOTTEN THIS, UH, THIS IN THE PAST. WE WANT TO AIM OUR SITES ON GETTING EVEN BETTER, AND HERE'S WHERE, HOW, HOW WE PLAN TO TACKLE THAT. AND HERE'S WHERE OUR PRIORITIES ARE. I'LL KICK IT OVER MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. QUICK. UM, FIRST OF ALL, AMAZING JOB YOU, I, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GUYS GENERATE WITH A TINY LITTLE TEAM IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND SO AMAZING JOB. AND NOW WE WANT MORE . UM, SO GO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CLONE YOURSELVES AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE. NO, UM, SERIOUSLY THOUGH, IT IS A REMARKABLE JOB OF HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DO SECURE FOR US. MY QUESTION IS, UM, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MIAMI BEACH IS OFTEN ON THE FOREFRONT OF NATIONAL ISSUES. SO SEA LEVEL CHANGE, UH, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE AND RESILIENCY ISSUES AND INNOVATIVE BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE ARE WRESTLING WITH AS A CITY, AS A COMMUNITY IS, UM, MULTIMODAL MOBILITY. AND I KNOW THE STATE HASN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT YET. SO THERE'S NOT FUNDING FROM THEM. AND, UM, THE COUNTY HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S MUCH BIGGER. WE ARE LIKE A PERFECT TEST CASE. WE'RE SEVEN MILES OF SAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN , AND PEOPLE WANNA USE THEIR BIKES OR E-BIKES OR SCOOTERS IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO, BUT WE COULD POSSIBLY RECONFIGURE HOW TO USE WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXISTS CURRENTLY. SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S FEDERAL MONEY, IF IT'S, UM, PRIVATE GRANTS, IF IT'S GROUPS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO PILOT TEST CASES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT OF HERE, GRANTS THAT ARE OPEN THIS WEEK NATIONALLY AT EVERY POSSIBLE LEVEL. I DON'T KNOW. I'M SURE YOU DO. BUT IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL TREES TO SHAKE, TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY OUTSIDE THE BOX, WHICH YOU PROBABLY ARE, BUT TO TRY TO, UM, GET MONEY FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO GET GRANTS TO HELP DEFRAY THE COST OF DESIGNING FIRST STREET PROJECT OR BUILDING THE WNA PHASE TWO, WHATEVER. BUT IT'S ALSO THESE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES THAT MAY NOT BE SO HIGH ON THE RADAR, BUT WOULD BE HUGE FOR US BECAUSE THEY COULD BE, UM, UM, SELLING POINTS AND, YOU KNOW, PR WINS AS WELL AS IMPROVING, UM, THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. LIKE TO SAY MIAMI BEACH IS LEADING THE WAY ON X, ONCE AGAIN, IS, IS GREAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ONTO YOUR ALREADY LONG LIST TO-DO LIST. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHING. AND, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, UM, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, AND I THINK, UH, CRYSTAL, YOU KNOW, TOUCHED ON THAT A BIT, IS, UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, TEMPORARILY I'VE, I'VE TAKEN OVER AND NOW IT'S TRANSITIONING OFF SOME OF THOSE LEGISLATIVE, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES. AND WE NOW HAVE SET UP MONTHLY CALLS, UH, WITH OUR GRANTS TEAM, WITH BOTH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYISTS, WHICH WE HADN'T BEEN DOING BEFORE, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, WHICH APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED SO THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR EARS TO THE GROUND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO PUSH IT FROM A, A LOBBYIST PERSPECTIVE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE, WE'VE STARTED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL AND BEAR EVEN MORE FRUITS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, BY HAVING THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH OUR LOBBYISTS, THEY'RE ALSO BRINGING NOT, I THINK CRYSTAL ACTUALLY KNOWS ALL THE ONES THAT THEY BRING THEIR ATTENTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO TRY TO BRING ATTENTION AND THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO GET FUNDED. SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST ASK, SO FEDERAL AND STATE LOBBYISTS, WHERE, HOW DO WE GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRIVATE GRANTS, THE FOUNDATION GRANTS? I LIKE CRYSTAL. SO TYPICALLY WITH THOSE, WE HAVE A DATABASE [00:10:01] THAT WE, UM, SUBSCRIBE TO AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN, OKAY. SO THEY, THEY GET SENT LIKE ANYTIME SOMETHING NEW GETS ISSUED, AND THEN THINGS LIKE WITH THE M-V-V-C-A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY CHECKING. THEY'LL ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH US, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE PUTTING OUT THEIR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE MAKE SURE TO, TO TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ IS ON THE LINE. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. OH, THANK YOU. UM, I CO-SPONSORED THIS ITEM WITH MAYOR MINOR. AND, UM, FOR ME, THE THING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, WE CONTINUE TO FIND FEDERAL FUNDING FOR OUR RESILIENCY PROJECTS. UM, SPECIFICALLY SEA WALLS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS, UH, MONIES THAT CAN HELP OUR, UH, PRIVATE CITIZENS. WE HAVE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S, UH, LIMITED AND ONLY OPEN TWICE A YEAR. AND THE FUNDING IS LIMITED, AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR SEA WALLS IN MIAMI BEACH ARE PRIVATE. AND, UM, THE OTHER AREA THAT I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY LOOKS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR IS ARTS AND CULTURE, GIVEN THAT THE STATE, UM, CUT THE FUNDING THERE. IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ? COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I WAS MORNING COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ VICE, VICE MAYOR FERNANDEZ. HOW COULD I FORGET, THOUGHT IT WAS AL . IT DEPENDS ON ME. QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT THE TABLE THAT YOU PROVIDED US, AND I'M SEEING THE MATCH AMOUNTS WHEN THEY WERE SUBMITTED. AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH GRANTS CAME THROUGH OR NOT? ARE THESE, IS THIS THE LIST OF THIS? WE COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THESE. NO, NO, NO. THAT WAS SHOWING ALL OF THE GRANTS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH ONES WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN? I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO ALSO SEE THE ONES THAT WE RECEIVED. I CAN PROVIDE THAT IN A SEPARATE YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT WHICH ONES WE, WE'VE GOTTEN, I SEE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN BUSY. I MEAN, YOU APPLIED FOR, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. 41 GRANTS. OKAY. RIGHT. TOTALING HOW MUCH? OVER A LITTLE OVER $20 MILLION. $20 MILLION. MM-HMM. IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THIS YEAR. 20 MILLION HAVE BEEN AWARDED THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND WE, AND WE APPLIED FOR ABOUT 65. AND A LOT OF THESE GRANTS ARE VERY LONG TIME. SO THEY MAY BE ON THE, WE APPLIED IN 2024, BUT WE DON'T FIND OUT UNTIL 2025. SOME OF 'EM ACTUALLY HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT, OFTENTIMES IT'S SIX MONTHS, 12 MONTHS DOWN THE LINE FROM WHEN APPLICATION TO WHEN WE, WHAT WE KNOW. SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRACK, UM, WHAT WE APPLY FOR IN A YEAR AND THEN WHAT WE WANT IN A YEAR. AND THOSE ARE, THEY'RE MISMATCH. YEAH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU CRYSTAL. UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING I'LL HIGHLIGHT AND THEN, UH, I'LL LET YOU GET BACK TO, UH, GETTING MONEY FOR THE CITY. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET, UH, SOME SORT OF WATER, UH, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE, WHETHER THAT BE AN ELECTRIC RY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU SAW THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH THE POSEIDON FERRY. I THINK THE IDEA IS GREAT, UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT ANYWHERE, UH, WATER FURRY NEEDS TO BE SUBSIDIZED. WE SAW THE, UH, DIFFICULTIES IN DOING IT AT A CITY. IT'D BE FABULOUS TO FIND OUT WHAT WE DO FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. [NB 4. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO INCORPORATE THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE (AI) IN CITY OPERATIONS AND FURTHER IMPROVE CITY SERVICES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, CITY PERMITTING PROCESSES, 311 NON-EMERGENCY REPORTING, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION; AND TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI-DADE COLLEGE ON AI INITIATIVES.] UH, GOING TO MOVE ON TO SOME IT ITEMS TO, UH, GET THEM OUT OF HERE. UH, SO WHERE I'M ENVISIONING, WE, UH, GO TO ITEMS FOUR 14, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FOR 18. SO WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THOSE. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, NNB FOUR REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC, UH, RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO INCORPORATE THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND CITY OPERATIONS AND FURTHER IMPROVE CITY SERVICES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION CITY PERMITTING PROCESSES, PROCESSES THREE, UH, 3 1 1 NON-EMERGENCY REPORTING, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AND TR AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI DAD COLLEGE ON AI INITIATIVES, NB FOUR. GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UH, FRANK ANA, CIO. UH, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS ORIGINALLY REFERRED BY, UH, MAYOR MINOR, UH, TO EXPLORE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN AI PROGRAM FOR THE CITY AND WORK WITH MIAMI-DADE COLLEGE AND OTHER EDUCATIONAL, UM, ENTITIES WITHIN THE AREA, UM, TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS AND, UM, UH, AND BE ABLE TO BRING THEM IN TO WORK ON IEI INITIATIVES FOR, FOR THE CITY. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, AI IS SOMETHING WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S AROUND CONVERSATIONAL AI LIKE CHAT, GPT, GEMINI, COPILOT, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, AI IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT. SO THE APPLICATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE CITY WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST BEING ABLE TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION. I KNOW THEY JUST TRAINED ME ON MICROSOFT CO-PILOT. MM-HMM. . IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? UH, THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THAT IS [00:15:01] SPECIFIC FOR PRODUCTIVITY FOR INTERNAL STAFF. UH, THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH, FROM AN AI PERSPECTIVE ARE MORE ABOUT AUTOMATING CITY PROCESSES, BEING ABLE TO DO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CANNOT DO CURRENTLY TODAY. UM, WE ALREADY HAVE MADE PROGRESS ON IMPLEMENTING AI AND MACHINE LEARNING IN A NUMBER OF SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ONE IS OUR, UH, 3 1 1 CENTER FOR NON-EMERGENCY. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UH, BOTS AND THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT QUICKER, UM, WITH OUR, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER OR BUILDING, UH, CALL CENTER IN SOME OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY. UM, WE ALSO IMPLEMENT A NUMBER OF, UH, AI AND MACHINE LEARNING CAPABILITIES FOR OUR CYBERSECURITY PROGRAM, UH, TO DO PROACTIVE, UH, DEFENSES OF CITY SYSTEMS. WE USE, UH, AN AI MODULE TO DO OUR TRAINING, AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN USING MACHINE LEARNING, UM, AND AI AND OUR ANALYTICS INITIATIVES FOR THE CITY FOR A LOT OF OUR DASHBOARDS AND A LOT OF OUR REPORTING. SO THAT'S, WELL, IN ITS WAY. UM, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE CIO FROM MIAMI-DADE COLLEGE, AS WELL AS THE, WE HAVE MEETINGS SCHEDULED TO THE DEAN OF ACADEMICS AND THE TEAM THAT RUNS THE TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM AT MIAMI-DADE COLLEGE. UH, THEY HAVE THE FIRST BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN AI IN THE STATE. UH, SO THEY'VE REALLY BEEN PUSHING THE ENVELOPE FROM THEIR END AS WELL. SO WE'VE HAD EXPLORATORY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HOW IT IS THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH THEM TO BRING STUDENTS WORK ON PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE SEMESTERS AND, AND DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN KIND OF BULLPEN OF, UH, INTERNS AND, AND STUDENTS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE. QUESTION, UM, FRANK, WHY DON'T WE JUST PARTNER WITH THEM TO DO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SO THAT YOU CAN TRAIN PEOPLE ON THESE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT SAVE SO MUCH TIME? I MEAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING US AS FACULTY MEMBERS TO, TO USE IT TO, YOU KNOW, WRITE OUR SYLLABI AND, AND STUFF. LIKE, IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. I COULD SAY, GIVE ME A SYLLABI FOR A THREE MINUTE DEMONSTRATIVE SPEECH IN A TABLE FORMAT. AND WITHIN LIKE A MINUTE, I HAVE LIKE, THE MOST AMAZING S THAT WOULD'VE TAKEN ME HOURS. SO IT'S KIND OF A, A COOL THING. AND I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES SHOULD HAVE THE SAME KIND OF TRAINING. OUR TRAINING WAS LIKE A COUPLE OF HOURS. WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT, WELL, FIRST YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE IT, CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO, TO ADD, UM, AI TOOLS LIKE THAT. UH, SOME OF THAT COMES DOWN TO LICENSING AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. SOMETIMES THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO US A LITTLE LATER BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE VETTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE ALL KIND OF FALL WITHIN THAT BUCKET. SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE STARTED TO LOOK AT. IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO US, UH, FOURTH QUARTER THIS YEAR. SO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT, AND WE WILL DO, UH, TRAINING AND WE'LL START SEEDING THAT WITH STAFF THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UH, PART OF MAKING THIS SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE TO WORK ON A GOVERNANCE PLAN THERE, THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR PROTECTION AS WELL. BUT THAT IS VERY MUCH SOMETHING MY TEAM HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON, ON FOR, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, SO WE HAVE A RE INTENTION OF, OF DOING THAT. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU, FRANK. UH, WE'LL CLOSE THIS OUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ONGOING ITEM, RIGHT? YES. UH, UNOFFICIALLY. UH, SO BE PROACTIVE WITH THIS. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU SEE AND WE NEED TO HAVE AN INTERMITTENT UPDATE, I, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE NOT WAIT FOR US TO SAY, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? YES. COME TO US BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE GROUND. UH, YOU'RE THE FOREMOST EXPERT ON IT, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BE PROACTIVE AND ENGAGED. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE IT. HAVE A QUESTION. DID, UH, CHAT GPT PROVIDE YOUR ITEM? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. , I'M KIDDING. NO, IT DID NOT. YOU GOTTA PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. FRANK . UM, OKAY. SO, UH, LET'S CLOSE THIS ITEM OUT AND, UH, LET, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 14. UH, VICE MAYOR FERNANDEZ, BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR ITEM, AND I'LL JUST, UM, RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR CIO, UH, TO, TO PRESENT US WITH HIS UPDATE ON THIS ITEM ON TYLER. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST, SORRY, JUST READ THE TITLE, UH, MB 14 DISCUSSION REGARDING TYLER TECHNOLOGY'S PERFORMANCE AND STRATEGY FOR THE CITY OF MY BEACH AND MB 14. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THIS IS A OLD ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, CARRYING OVER FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. UH, THE INTENT OF THIS INITIALLY WAS TO JUST BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE STATE OF SOME OF OUR TECHNOLOGIES WITH TYLER, WHICH IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN A PAIN POINT. UM, THIS IS SPECIFIC. TODAY'S UPDATE IS SPECIFIC TO INTER GOV, WHICH IS THE LICENSING, PERMITTING, AND INSPECTION APPLICATION THAT THE CITY USES. UM, TWO YEARS AGO, OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE HAD ENGAGED IN AN RFI TO TEST THE MARKET AND SEE WHAT OTHER SOLUTIONS WERE AVAILABLE, UM, IN THE MARKET DUE TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING. UM, THE RESULTS OF THAT CAME BACK IN A VERY LIMITED CAPACITY. SO AT THE TIME, UH, TYLER WAS STILL THE PREEMINENT SOLUTION FOR THE SIZE ORGANIZATION AND THE TYPE OF FUNCTIONALITY THAT WE NEEDED. UM, SO AT THIS STAGE, UH, THE CITY PURCHASED ENTER GOV 10 YEARS AGO. IT'S BEEN IN PRODUCTION FOR EIGHT. UM, THIS SUMMER WE EXPERIENCED, UM, SIGNIFICANT PERFORMANCE AND SUPPORT ISSUES FROM TYLER. SO WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THE CITY TO GO INTO A, A PROPER ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE TECHNOLOGY AS A WHOLE, DO A MARKET STUDY, UM, [00:20:01] INTERVIEW, STAFF, INTERVIEW, YOU KNOW, STAKEHOLDERS, AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS STILL THE BEST SOLUTION FOR OUR ORGANIZATION. UM, IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, DO AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, AND THEN MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO COME BACK AND BRING THAT AS A, UM, AS AN UPDATE OR A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FROM TYLER, THERE WOULD BE A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THAT. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD BE YET. UM, THERE'S A RANGE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT BASED ON WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING, BUT I AM NOT READY TO, UH, TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME. UM, WE HAVE FUNDING TO DO THIS, SO THIS IS MORE OF AN UPDATE THAT IT'S OUR INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND FIND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER AGENCIES THAT WOULD MAKE US BETTER. MR. CHAIR, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF YOU ALLOW ME, LET'S KEEP THIS ITEM OPEN. I THINK IT'S GOOD, UH, TO HAVE, UH, FRANK, COME FORWARD AND KEEP US UPDATED ON THIS. THIS IS ESSENTIAL TO THE DELIVERY OF SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO LET'S HEAR WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, OKAY. AT A FUTURE MEETING. PERFECT. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THREE ITEMS IN A ROW. WE HAVEN'T SPENT A DOLLAR. WE ARE ON A ROLL. I LOVE THIS . UM, THANK YOU. I'LL JUST WAIT FOR IT. , . UM, I, I KNOW WE SAID WE DO. UH, THANK YOU, FRANK. I [OB 3. DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY ASSUMING CONTROL AND MANAGING THE SUNSET HARBOUR LIFT STATION.] KNOW WE SAID WE DO ITEM 18. UH, I WANNA GET OUR FRIENDS FROM SUNSET HARBOR. IT LOOKS, THEY, THEY HAVE A BIG GROUP HERE, UH, SO WANT TO GIVE THEM FAIRNESS. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ FOR POINTING OUT HOW MANY, UH, OF OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WERE HERE. SO LET'S HEAR, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UM, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS HERE. ITEM OB THREE, DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY, ASSUMING CONTROL AND MANAGING SUNSET HARBOR LIFT STATION, OB THREE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARK HALBURN HALBURN RODRIGUEZ. I REPRESENT, UH, WHAT WE WILL CALL FOR PURPOSES OF THIS HEARING. THE SUNSET HARBOR COMMUNITY. IT REALLY CONSISTS OF FOUR COMMUNITIES, SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH, SUNSET HARBOR, NORTH TOWN, HOMES OF SUNSET HARBOR, AND THE SUNSET HARBOR YACHT CLUB. UM, WE ARE HERE AS A COLLECTIVE, UM, AS YOU, AS YOU ALL MAY RECALL, WE WERE LAST IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE ON JUNE 28TH. UM, AT THAT TIME, UM, UH, DURING THE LAST HEARING, WE PRESENTED A VARIETY OF, UM, ARGUMENTS REGARDING, UH, WHY WE FELT, UM, FROM BOTH A PRACTICAL, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND A VARIETY OF OTHER REASONS WHY SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH OPERATING WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PUBLIC UTILITY IS A BAD IDEA. UH, AND ONE THAT, UM, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, CREATES, LIKE I SAID, DAILY PRACTICAL CONCERNS AS WELL AS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES, UH, UH, UH, ENVIRON POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH BACKFLOW OF, UH, SEWAGE, WHICH WE'VE EXPERIENCED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. UM, OUR SYSTEM IS, UH, TIED IN PART TO, YOU KNOW, THE SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH, WHEN, WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE CITY, THERE'S NO COORDINATION. UM, AND WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY A PROPERTY MANAGER THAT IS MANAGING THIS IN INCREDIBLY, UM, UM, COMPLICATED, UH, SYSTEM. AND SO THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UH, WE, WE, WE WENT OVER A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US BY THE CITY, UM, OF OTHER EXAMPLES OF LIFT STATIONS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. UH, AND WHAT OUR, WHAT WE SAID THEN, AND WHAT WE SAY NOW IS THAT NONE OF THEM ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED. UH, IN OTHER WORDS, NOT A SINGLE PUMP STATION IN THIS CITY IS OPERATED BY A PRIVATE ENTITY AND SERVICING OTHER PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT BY DEFINITION IS A PUBLIC UTILITY. UM, AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH THIS CONFIGURATION. AND SO I BELIEVE WHAT THE COMMITTEE SAID TO THE CITY THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE CITY, WE WANT YOU TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEN COME BACK. THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL REQUESTED OF THE CITY WAS, NUMBER ONE, PLEASE ATTEMPT TO LOCATE ANY DOCUMENTS IN THE CITY'S POSSESSION THAT MEMORIALIZE THIS CONCEPT THAT, THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY LIKE SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH WOULD BE MAINTAINING A PUBLIC UTILITY AND OPERATING IT, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. AND NUMBER TWO, I PERSONALLY CHALLENGE THE CITY TO SHOW ME A SINGLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THAT IS OPERATING A LIFT STATION THAT IS FOR THE BENEFIT AND USE OF THEIR NEIGHBORING PRIVATE ENTITIES. I'D SAID, AND I REPEAT IT NOW, IT DOESN'T EXIST. SO WE GOT A LIST, UM, OR AGAIN, ORIGINALLY FROM THE CITY OF SAY, 20 PROPERTIES. WE'VE GONE TO EVERY PROPERTY. WE'VE RESEARCHED THAT LIST. THEY'RE HOTELS, THEY ARE HOSPITALS, THEY [00:25:01] ARE COAST GUARD STATIONS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THIS THAT ARE SERVICING THEIR OWN PROPERTY. THAT IS THE MAJOR DISTINCTION HERE. WE ARE SERVICING THREE PRIVATE ENT, THREE PRIVATE PROPERTIES. WE ARE ACTING AS A PUBLIC UTILITY. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BACK TODAY BASED ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE'S. UM, SORT OF THOUGHTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR PROJECT. AND I APPRE LET'S HEAR FROM THE CITY FOR, UH, FOR REBUTTAL, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD, I GUESS HOW I'LL PHRASE IT. TELL US WHERE THE FALLACY IN THAT ARGUMENT IS. 'CAUSE IT SOUNDED KIM COMPELL. . GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTINA ORTEGA, CITY ENGINEER WITH PUBLIC WORKS, AND I'M HERE WITH BRAD, OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR. UM, WE LOOKED INTO AND HAVE PROVIDED THE, AS-BUILTS FOR THE SYSTEM. UM, WE, WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED THAT LIST OF, OF EXISTING PRIVATE LIFT STATIONS. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO, TO ESSENTIALLY CONSTRUCT A PRIVATE LIFT STATION TO SERVICE A DEVELOPMENT OR A FACILITY WHERE RECONSTRUCTING OR UPGRADING THE ENTIRE GRAVITY SYSTEM DOWNSTREAM OF THIS POINT WOULD BE TOO COSTLY, UH, TO A POINT WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A PROJECT IN PLACE TO DO SO. AND THE DEVELOPER PREFERS TO GO THE ROUTE OF BUILDING A PRIVATE LIFT STATION THAT WOULD THEN PUMP THE FLOWS FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT, OR A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS TOWARDS A POINT IN THE, IN OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM THAT WILL CARRY THOSE FLOWS ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO ULTIMATELY THE TREATMENT FACILITIES. SO IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EXISTING PUMP STATIONS. UM, WE'VE EVEN, THERE'S BEEN ONE MORE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT IN 500 ALTON IN A SIMILAR FASHION. SO AGAIN, THAT IS THE CHOICE THAT WE'RE FACED WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE CITY SYSTEM, UM, PERHAPS AGAIN, IT WOULD TAKE SIGNIFICANT, UH, LEVEL OF INVESTMENT TO UPSIZE THE GRAVITY PIPES TO GET. YEAH. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU, YOU PUT IT IN VERY ELEMENTARY TERMS, EVEN MYSELF WAS ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG. UH, SO THAT INITIAL OUTLAY, AN INITIAL CAPEX INVESTMENT WAS BORN BY THE DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONGOING OPEX, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR THIS PRO ACTUALLY, THE, THE PRIVATE FACILITY IS SAYING WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OR THE KNOW-HOW TO CONTINUE OPERATING THIS IN A SAFE FASHION. UM, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING PROHIBITING THE CITY, AND PERHAPS WE'RE EVEN BETTER POSITIONED FROM AN EXPERTISE STANDPOINT TO, UH, ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY OF OPERATION OF THIS. IT JUST COMES DOWN TO A FINANCIAL ASPECT. SO I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING AT, RIGHT? WHERE WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. UM, BUT TELL ME WHERE I'M OFF HERE BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ONGOING OPERATIONS MOVE OVER TO THE CITY WITH SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL COLLABORATION BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN, UH, BEARING THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DATE. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A, A QUESTION OF FINANCIALS, RIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S THE POINT OF FINANCIALS. THERE'S ALSO THE PRECEDENCE OF THE CITY TAKING OVER THESE PRIVATE LIFT STATION MM-HMM. SYSTEMS. YEP. THAT, THAT ARE BASED ON A, AN AGREEMENT WITH A DEVELOPER AT A TIME. WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THIS PARTICULAR LIFT STATION, UM, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S BEEN SAID THAT THERE'S A PROJECT, THERE'S AN ONGOING PROJECT TO, TO CONSTRUCT SOME UPGRADES TO THIS LIFT STATION. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THE DETAILS. UM, I DO HAVE CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE, THE PUMPS IN PLACE THAT HAVE THE CORRECT RATING TO ENSURE THAT ALL THAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH THOSE PUMPS BURNING UP AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LOT, A LOT OF, A LOT OF ISSUES WITH ALL THE MORE REASON. ISN'T THAT MORE PROOF THAT THE CITY SHOULD, UH, WELL, AGAIN, IN THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE, WE HAVE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT, RUN THE ANALYSIS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE DESIGN FOR THE SYSTEM IS SOUND RIGHT. THAT THE PUMPS IN PLACE ARE THOSE THAT, THAT MATCH THE ORIGINAL OPERATING POINT THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THE SYSTEM. YEAH. AND THAT WAS ONE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT BRIEFLY, [00:30:02] UM, THE RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE CORRECT PUMPS INSTALLED IN YOUR LIFT STATION. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOUR PUMP MAY BE OPERATING AT A POINT AND THE CURVE THAT CAUSES IT TO, TO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, HIGHER MAINTENANCE THAT YOU SHOULD. SO AT THAT POINT, AGAIN, YOU NEED AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO ASSIST YOU WITH EVALUATING AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. BUT I, I GUESS, ISN'T THAT JUST MORE AMPLIFICATION OF THE ARGUMENT WHERE IT'S LIKE, WELL, IF THE CITY'S THE FOREMOST EXPERT HERE, UH, THERE'S, AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER OF THE FINANCIALS, RIGHT? THERE'S A COST. THERE WILL BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH PURCHASING NEW PUMPS, UH, LOOKING AT, AT THE CAPACITY OF THE PUMP STATION. YEAH. AND TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE CITY ASSUME COMPLETE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS CONVERSATION GOES NEXT. BUT I WANT TO TURN THIS OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES AND THEN WE'LL, WE WILL GET MORE IF I MAY, WHENEVER I, YOU, YOU ALL ARE DONE. I, I JUST WANTED TO REBUT A FEW THINGS THERE. PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, SO I'M VERY EMPATHETIC, UH, TO, TO, TO THE CONCERNS OF THE SUNSET HARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSET RELATES TO OPERATING THE MAINTENANCE, THE PERMITTING OF THIS, OF THIS LIFT STATION. IT'S, IT'S A BURDEN THAT USUALLY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE. UM, I DO, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. PERHAPS OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR STAFF, UH, COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR ME. SO IT WAS REFERENCED THAT CURRENTLY SUNSET HARBOR IS PROVIDING THIS SERVICE, UH, FOR THE NORTH TOWER, THE SOUTH TOWER, THE TOWN, THE TOWN HOMES, AND THE YACHT CLUB. WAS THAT ALWAYS THE INTENT WHEN THIS PUMP STATION WAS PLACED, UH, OR PERHAPS, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, CHRISTINA OR BRAD COULD, COULD ANSWER THIS FOR ME, WHEN, WHEN THE BUILDINGS, UH, WERE BUILT AND THE THIS PUMP WAS PUT THERE, WAS IT THE INTENT FOR IT ONLY TO BE FOR, FOR THE TWO CONDO BUILDINGS? AND DID THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTIES COME AFTERWARDS, OR WAS IT ALWAYS PART OF, OF THE INSTALLATION? I BELIEVE WE HAVE AS-BUILTS THAT SHOW THIS CONFIGURATION. UM, I DON'T RECALL, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T RECALL IF THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL OR, OR A CHANGE CONDITION. I DON'T KNOW IF BRAD OR LIZ, IF YOU'RE AWARE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE IT WAS ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, THAT THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. BUT MY QUESTION, BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE, THEY HAVE THE PUMP STATION, AND THEN, AND THEN I'M BEING TOLD BY, BY, BY THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE, THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO THE YACHT CLUB, THEY'RE PROVIDING IT TO THE TOWN HOMES AND OTHER PROPERTIES. DID THOSE COME AFTERWARDS OR WERE THOSE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING? SO PERHAPS YOU MIGHT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. YEAH, SO, SO TO BE CLEAR, UH, A COUPLE THINGS THERE TO BE CLEAR. THESE, THIS IS NOT ONE COMMUNITY. AND, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I-I-I-I-I, I UNDERSTAND MIKE, AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A COURT HEARING. SO LET ME, WE COMMUNICATED WITH THE DEVELOPER YEAH. WHO TOLD US THE INTENTION WAS ALWAYS FOR THE CITY TO TAKE THIS OVER. UNDERSTOOD. BUT MY QUESTION IS, UHHUH , WERE THE TOWN HOMES, THE YACHT CLUB THERE AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT? OR DID THEY COME IN AFTERWARDS? NO, THIS WAS A PHASE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WAS A PHASE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO, AND, AND SO MR. ATTORNEY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEN, THEN THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPERATING THIS NOW, SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH, HAD TO AGREE TO ALLOW THESE OTHER PROPERTIES TO USE NO. THESE PUMP STATIONS. NO. WELL, IT SOUNDS TO ME, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENTS, THAT THERE WAS A DEVELOPER WHO DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF PHASES. RIGHT. AND THAT DEVELOPER IN THE, AS-BUILTS, SHOWED FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS USING THE SAME PUMP STATION. SO THE DEVELOPER SHOULD HAVE IN ITS AGREEMENTS WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATIONS, UM, MADE SOME PROVISION FOR THE OPERATION OF THE PUMP STATIONS. IS IT IN THE CONDO DOCKS? NO, IT WAS NEVER THE IN, THAT'S THE POINT. IT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION. AND, AND THE, IT'S IN, IT'S, FRANKLY, IT'S ILLEGAL. OKAY. SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH IS A CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. OKAY. THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT LEGALLY TO OPERATE A PUBLIC UTILITY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT IN THE CONDO DOCS? NO, IT'S NOT IN THE CONDO DOCS. SO IF IT'S NOT IN THE CONDO DOCS THERE, UH, THE, UH, THE TURNOVER FROM THE DEVELOPER TO THE HOMEOWNERS, THERE, THERE'S NO LEGAL INSTRUMENT IN WHICH, IN WHICH THEN THE SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH ACCEPTED NO OPERATION OF THIS. NOT ONLY THAT, NOT ONLY THAT, [00:35:01] BUT WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO FIND IN A DECLARATION OR, OR, OR POSSIBLY A MASTER DECLARATION, WHICH THERE IS NO MASTER ASSOCIATION HERE, MEANING THE FOUR COMMUNITIES ARE NOT CONNECTED THROUGH A MASTER THAT GOVERNS THE COMMON AREAS. MM-HMM. , IF THERE WAS, YOU WOULD LIKELY SEE SOMETHING LIKE A PERCENTAGE ALLOCATION FOR EACH COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. NOTHING. BECAUSE AGAIN, ACCORDING TO THE BEZOS, IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE ASSOCIATION. THE PROBLEM IS THE PROBLEM FOR US, AND THE PROBLEM FOR THE CITY IS THERE. AND, AND THIS WAS THE CHALLENGE AT THE LAST HEARING, AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD VERY CLEARLY THAT THE CITY IS UNABLE TO FIND ANY DOCUMENT WITHIN THE CITY'S RECORDS WHERE ANYBODY AGREED TO THIS CONFIGURATION, WHERE SUNSET HARBOR SOUTH WAS GONNA MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THIS PUMP STATION FOR THREE OTHER COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE IT'S NONSENSICAL. AND WHAT WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE CITY, WE HEARD ABOUT THE LIST OF OTHER PRIVATE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LIFT STATIONS, BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T HEAR IS THAT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ARE OPERATING THEIR LIFT STATION FOR THEIR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. MM-HMM. , THAT'S A UNDERSTOOD, A BIG DIFFERENCE. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. WELL, AND MR. ATTORNEY I SEE, I SEE. HAVE YOUR MIC ON IT. IF I MADE THE CHAIR, I MEAN, I, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS WITH THE CITY SUGGESTING THAT THE CITY WAS GONNA TAKE THIS ON. I MEAN, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR AGREEMENT WAS WITH YOUR DEVELOPER. UM, IS THERE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE FOUR BUILDINGS? HOW HAVE YOU, HOW ARE YOU BILLING THEM NOW? SO, UH, THE FIRST SORT OF ANSWER TO YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT OR QUESTION IS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY, THERE IS NEVER REALLY AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN AN ASSOCIATION, A DEVELOPER, BECAUSE LET'S, JUST FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, WHEN A COMMUNITY IS DEVELOPED, IT'S THE DEVELOPER THAT RECORDS THE DECLARATION OF CONDOMINIUM, BUILDS THE BUILDING, ET CETERA. THERE ARE NO HOMEOWNERS. AND THE ASSOCIATION IS SIMPLY RUN BY THE DEVELOPER. SO IT'S A DEVELOPER CONTROLLED ASSOCIATION. THEY, THERE ARE, IF THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT PER SE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES SILENT, NOTHING THERE. SO THERE WAS, SO, SO AT THE TIME OF TURNOVER, WHEN THE RESIDENTS ASSUMED, UH, THE PROPERTY FROM THE CONDOMINIUM FROM THE DEVELOPER, THE RESIDENTS NEVER HAD ANY FORMAL ASSUMPTION OF THIS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE CITY. CAN I ANSWER THE SE CAN I ANSWER THAT SECOND QUESTION? AND I, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A COMPLETE ANSWER. THE SECOND ANSWER IS IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE FUND IT AND HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE PERCENTAGES WE'VE CREATED, WHAT THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO, WHICH WAS SOME SORT OF EQUITABLE DIVISION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN EACH BUILDING, THE MARINA. SO WE'RE JUST WINGING IT, IF I'M GONNA BE HONEST, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY. THANK YOU. AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR HOW LONG? 20. FOR 20 YEARS. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF. UM, BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS CAME IN LINE AFTERWARDS, THE YACHT CLUB, THE TOWN HOMES AND OTHERS, HOW DID THE CITY APPROVE THOSE PROJECTS, UM, AND CONTEMPLATE THEIR NEEDS, UH, FOR, FOR SEWER SERVICES AT, AT THOSE TIMES? SO AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND, AND WE HAVE AS AN ATTACHMENT HERE ON THE MEMO, ARE 1995 AS-BUILT RECORD DRAWINGS THAT SHOW THE LIFT STATION AS A PRIVATE LIFT STATION. AND IT DOES SHOW THE CONNECTION FROM ALL THE UNITS IN QUESTION HERE. SO THAT IS FROM THE FOUR PROPERTIES? YES, CORRECT. AND, AND IT DOES SHOW, AGAIN, VERY CLEARLY, UM, DEMARCATES THE, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PUBLIC SANITARY SYSTEM VERSUS PIPE. THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. AND ONE LAST QUESTION. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUMP STATIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE MANAGED BY A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING? WHICH ONES? WAIT, THAT MAY NOT BE UN TRUE. YEAH, PLEASE. OKAY. SO, SO, SO WHICH BUILDINGS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT MANAGE THEIR OWN PUMP STATION? ONE THAT I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH, BECAUSE, UH, THIS WAS, UM, THE, THE AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED DURING MY TIME HERE AT THE CITY. AND THIS IS 500 ALTON, WHERE A NEW, UH, PRIVATE LIFT STATION WAS CONSTRUCTED. OKAY. UM, TO SERVICE THAT CONDO, UH, BUILDING THAT MONSTER. SAY THAT AGAIN? THAT MONSTER. THAT MONSTER, YES, THE MONSTER. OKAY. THE MONSTER LIFT STATION FOR THE MONSTER. AND A AND IN A, IN A SIMILAR FASHION, THE LIFT STATION WILL REMAIN PRIVATE, WHERE THE FORCE MAIN, MEANING THE PIPE AFTER THE LIFT STATION, [00:40:01] THE CITY WILL OWN THE MAIN THING. AND, AND, AND MR. MR. KANE, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ARE WE AWARE OF ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN THE CITY? UH, CHRISTINA'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S FROM HER TENURE OF SERVICE IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT. BUT ARE WE AWARE OF ANY OTHER, UH, THAT MAY EXIST? I KNOW I HAVE A LIST OF ABOUT 20, UH, PUMP STATIONS, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL OR NOT THE PALAU. UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE CONFIGURATION WITH THE PALAU? I HAVE THE, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK AGAIN. WE JUST PULLED THE LIST OF PRIVATE LIFT STATIONS, WHICH I THINK I CAN HELP YOU WITH THE PALAU, WHAT IS THE PALAU IS ON THE LIST. IT'S, UM, AT, UH, 1, 2 0 1 20TH STREET. BUT AGAIN, UH, WHAT NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE ANY OF THESE LIFT STATIONS SERVICING? THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE QUESTION. MM-HMM. , WE, WE HAD, WE FREELY ADMIT THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE OTHER RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, BUT WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT OURS IS WE ARE ACTUALLY SERVICING OUR NEIGHBORS. YEAH. OKAY. AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS 500 TON COULD BE UNIQUE, GIVEN THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ACTUALLY A BILATERAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHERE THEY CONSTRUCTED A PUBLIC PARK THAT COULD BE PART OF THAT. UM, OH, MY BIGGEST WORRY ABOUT THIS ITEM IS THAT OUR SANITATION FUND IS ALREADY REELING AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING SEWER FUND UNDER, WELL, NOT UNDER, BUT IT'S UNDERFUNDED. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LARGE GAP MOVING FORWARD. LIKE HOW WOULD WE EVEN CONTEMPLATE PAYING FOR THIS? IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, IT WOULD BE THE WATER AND SEWER FUND WOULD TAKE THAT ON. UH, THE WATER SEWER FUND DOES HAVE, UM, ITS OBLIGATED, UH, RESERVES FOR THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, WE DO HAVE A, A LARGE, VERY, VERY LARGE, UH, CAPITAL PROGRAM, UH, IN PLAY. AND ACTUALLY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY ENGAGED WITH, AND, AND I THINK WE WERE FE A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO WHERE WE SAID WE'D BE COMING BACK, UH, PROBABLY IN THE FALL AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO BE DISCUSSING, UH, RATE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO AFFORD THIS COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS CAPITAL, WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL PROGRAM. SO, IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TAKEN ON, OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD HAVE TO PUT THIS INTO THE, THE FINANCIAL MODEL. IF I, I, AND SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME, I JUST WANNA REITERATE IT 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT EVERY TIME THE CITY PERFORMS WORK ON THE SEWER SYSTEM, OUR LIFT STATION GOES DOWN. WE FIND OUT USUALLY AFTER THE FACT BECAUSE WE HAVE RAW SEWAGE BACKFLOW THAT COMES UP AT THE END OF THE LINE TOWN HOMES THAT IS ON THE WATER. WE HAVE A GARAGE FULL OF RAW SEWAGE. IT BACKS UP INTO THE BUILDING. THERE IS GOING TO BE, AT SOME POINT THAT IS GONNA GO FROM LAND TO THE BAY. WE CAN'T CONTROL IT. AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S GONNA BE MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT AS BEST WE CAN. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY ON A BYPASS SINCE LIKE YEARS 2017 FROM HURRICANE IRMA. WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING ON OUR HANDS THAT IS WAY BEYOND OUR, UH, UH, ABILITIES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE, I DON'T LIKE CREATING THIS PRECEDENCE. I REALLY HAVE A VERY, I A STRONG ISSUE WITH US NOW SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THIS PRIVATE PUMP STATION. IT WAS DONE BY A DEVELOPER SO THAT HE COULD DO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND A NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE, IN THE AREA. BUT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, PRETTY MUCH AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO WE HAVE THERE? OVER 2000 IN OUR BUILDINGS ALONE. THANK YOU. UM, OVER, OVER 2000 RESIDENTS. UH, THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ONE BUILDING PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO MULTIPLE OTHER BUILDINGS. THEY'RE NOT A PUBLIC UTILITY. THE GENTLEMAN IS AGREEMENT. CORRECT. I'M SORRY. ESPECIALLY ABSENT AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT. ESPECIALLY ABSENT AN AGREEMENT, ESPECIALLY ABSENT ANY COVENANT IN THEIR, IN THEIR DOCUMENTS WHERE, WHERE AT THE TIME OF TO TURNOVER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THIS RESPONSIBILITY. I JUST, THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT, WHILE I DON'T LIKE THE PRECEDENT, THERE'S SOMETHING HERE WRONG THAT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE SUNSET, UH, HARBOR SOUTH BUILDING, HAVING TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS. AND WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE. CONDOMINIUMS DON'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, TODAY, CON SUNSET HARBOR IS DOING VERY FISCALLY. WELL, I WOULD IMAGINE IT, I DON'T HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S ANY FINANCIAL ISSUES IN SUNSET HARBOR. THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN THESE, [00:45:01] IN THESE BUILDINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND NOW WE'RE PLACING ON UNDO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLY MANAGING AND TAKING CARE OF THIS PUMP, EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTE TO IT. BUT IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY THAT FALLS ON THE MANAGEMENT OF SUNSET HARBOR. WHAT IF IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, AND WE LET SIT IN THE PRESENT, THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, WHAT IF IN THE FUTURE SOMEDAY THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, WITH MISMANAGEMENT? THERE'S, THERE'S FINANCIAL ISSUES INVOLVED. REALLY THAT BASIC, UH, SEWER UTILITY SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT, OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, UH, FOR, FOR ALL THESE OTHER RESIDENTS. I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE PRECEDENT. WE'RE GONNA, WE, WE MAY POTENTIALLY SET HERE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT WILLING TO ENTERTAIN AGAIN, BUT GIVEN THE UNIQUENESS AND THE AMOUNT OF OTHER PROPERTIES THIS ONE PUMP STATION SERVES, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT OUR, OUR COLLEAGUE AND HIS ITEM AND MAKE A MOTION TO, TO RECOMMEND THIS WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GO TO COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ, THEN COMMISSIONER BOT. UH, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AND, UH, I WANNA GET SOME MORE ENGAGEMENT FROM STAFF. UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO SOME SORT OF REVENUE SHARE ON THIS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE ARE 2000 PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SERVICING, SO I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO ABSOLUTELY DISCUSSING ALL OF THAT. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, I THINK THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS TO MEET MY, I THINK I WOULD LOVE YOU TO CHANGE YOUR MOTION TO HAVE EVERYBODY SIT DOWN AND WORK OUT SOME SORT OF REVENUE SHARE. OKAY. THAT WILL WORK FOR EVERYONE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE ON 100%, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM. WE WANNA HELP, WE'RE GONNA HELP. UM, I THINK THAT THE WILL IS THERE TO HELP. LET'S FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. SO WE ALL WALK AWAY WITH SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE WITHOUT SHOULDERING THE ENTIRE EXPENSE. WE'RE, WE'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. OKAY. GIVE US ONE SECOND, SIR. LET US JUST KEEP THE COMMENTS UP HERE AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. BUT STAY THERE. UH, COMMISSIONER BOTT. YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT ON A TOTALLY NOT RELATED ISSUE, WHICH IS THAT WE'VE, WE IN MIAMI BEACH HAVE CREATED SO MANY PRECEDENTS AND BEEN SO DERELICT AS OUR, IN OUR, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES OVER THE LAST MULTIPLE DECADES, GOING BACK 40, 50 YEARS OF LETTING DEVELOPERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH A WINK AND A NOD, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY. MAYBE THE LAWS DIDN'T ANTICIPATE WHAT THE DEVELOPER WAS PROPOSING. MAYBE IT WAS JUST SHODDY NEGOTIATING. MAYBE IT WAS WELL INTENDED AND RECORDS ACTUALLY JUST GOT LOST. WHO KNOWS? BUT HERE WE ARE WITH ANOTHER SITUATION. THE ONE YESTERDAY WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. UM, AND WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME OF SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS. IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BUYING INTO HIS PROJECT AND THE CITY FOR WHATEVER REASON, DID NOT AT THE TIME BETTER MANAGE THE PROCESS. AND IT'S JUST, IT'S EXHAUSTING BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY IN THE, THE POSITION OF CLEANING UP, NO PUN INTENDED, GIVEN THE TOPIC HERE, , UM, CLEANING UP SOMEBODY ELSE'S MESS. AND IT'S GOTTA STOP. AND I KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. I AM PRESUMING GIVEN THE, UM, MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS COMMISSION, NOT JUST IN THIS MEETING, BUT ARE, ARE VERY, UM, EAGER TO HAVE PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY NEED, BUT BE RESPONSIBLE AS BUSINESS PEOPLE. RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING BUSINESS, BUT DO IT IN A LEGITIMATE MANNER. AND THIS IS JUST A REALLY EGREGIOUS CASE OF, OF THAT. SO I, I AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT PRECEDENT IS TERRIBLE, BUT THESE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SO WILDLY UNIQUE AND EXACERBATED THAT THESE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE WATER, THE EDGE OF THE WATER. IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER MOTIONS. SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID TODAY AND AT THE OTHER, THE PRIOR MEETING, WAS THAT YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CITY. AND WHEN THE CITY'S PUMPS GO DOWN OR WHENEVER THERE'S A PROBLEM, YOU FIND OUT BECAUSE YOU SHUT OFF, HAVE TO SCOOP THE POOP. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK. IT'S ALL MAGIC TO ME. SO I WOULD LIKE YOUR TEAM TO WORK WITH OUR TEAM EVEN BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT NEGOTIATIONS ON THIS ISSUE MOVING FORWARD. HOW DO WE FIX THAT IMMEDIATE PROBLEM, RIGHT? YEAH. WE'RE GOING IN, WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF HURRICANE SEASON. WE'RE IN HIGH TIDE, UM, SITUATIONS GOING ON. WE'VE GOT FLOODING ALL OVER THE CITY FOR REASONS THAT WE LITERALLY CAN'T CONTROL. SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT YOU GUYS, BUT THERE'S COMMUNICATION AHEAD OF THE FACT SO THAT ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THESE BUILDINGS TO WARD THAT OFF SO YOU WE'RE NOT SCRAPING POOP INTO THE BAY. IF SOMETHING GOES WILDLY, UH, UH, ROCKY, UM, WE HEAD THAT OFF OF THE PASS. I'M HARD PRESSED TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DIDN'T MEAN ANY OF THOSE PUNS. , OKAY. THAT'S [00:50:01] JUST HOW MY BRAIN WORKS. WHAT CAN I SAY? UH, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, GOING FORWARD, I, I THINK WE'LL KEEP THIS ITEM HERE, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, WHAT THIS IS GOING TO, UH, COST FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, TWOFOLD. ONE IS THAT ONE TIME UPFRONT COST, IF THERE'S ANY CAPEX INVOLVED IN ESSENTIALLY SWITCHING OVER, UH, LONGER TERM OPERATIONS TO THE CITY AND THEN WHAT OUR ANNUAL OPEX IS GOING TO BE. AND THEN IF I COULD HAVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ANY TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT YOUR FINANCIAL OPEX COSTS HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HISTORICALLY, BECAUSE I WANNA TAKE OFF THE OPERATIONAL BURDEN. YEAH. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHARE THE ENTIRE FINANCIAL BURDEN, RIGHT? UNDERSTOOD. I WANNA BE SURE THAT WE DO THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT BEST EQUIPPED TO DO THIS. WE ARE. THAT BURDEN SHOULDN'T FALL TO YOU. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN OKAY, YOU'VE BEEN SPENDING, UH, $200,000 A YEAR OPERATING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT'S BORN BY US. I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY, OKAY, YOU CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTING WHATEVER THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES WERE, WE'LL TAKE OVER THE, UH, LEADERSHIP AND EXPERTISE CAPABILITIES. YES, MR. CHAIR, SHOULD WE ASK, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OUR ADMINISTRATION TO PERHAPS ENGAGE IN SOME CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, BE, YOU KNOW, DRAFTING SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT COULD COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY RECOMMEND IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS PART OF THIS, UH, DISCUSSION? I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. I SEE A LOT OF PENS RAISED IN THE AIR. UM, I'LL PUT MY PENCIL DOWN IF I CAN. AND I THINK IN TRY TO, TO FACILITATE, 'CAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. I THINK THERE'S, UH, AT A REQUEST FROM STAFF THAT WOULD HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT TO DO SOME DESIGN AND HELP COST ESTIMATE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND SUCH THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. UH, AND THE OTHER IS THEN TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION, THEN TO, YOU KNOW, BEGIN NEGOTIATING A, A CONTROL TRANSFER ON THAT. SO I'M GONNA TAKE A SHOT. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE NOTES HERE. I'M GONNA TRY AND TAKE A SHOT AT A MOTION, I THINK, 'CAUSE I THINK IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION AND RETAIN HERE, WHICH WOULD RETURN TO COMMISSION, BUT BE RETAINED HERE ALSO, UH, WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION, NEGOTIATE A TRANSFER OF THE SUNSET HARBOR LIFT STATION CITY CONTROL WITH SHARING WITH A, WITH A SHARING OF COSTS BETWEEN THE PARTIES AFTER THE CITY IS ENGAGED WITH THE CONSULTANT TO DETERMINE SAID COSTS AND HAVE THAT COME BACK TO, AND THAT COME, I'LL SECOND IT. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. IS THERE A SHARED COST OR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T KNOW YET. WE, I THINK I LEFT, IF I MAY, I LEFT IT AS A GENERIC SHARE COST BECAUSE FIRST, UH, WHEN I GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND THAT DIRECTION IS GIVEN BY COMMISSION, THEN THEY WOULD EX UH, PUBLIC WORKS WOULD EXPEND SOME DOLLARS TO ENGAGE WITH THAT DESIGN CONSULTANT BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND DESIGN WHEN IT COMES TO A PRIVATE VERSUS A PUBLIC LIFT STATION. SO THEY WOULD ENGAGE WITH THAT CONSULTANT, FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENT COSTS WOULD BE, CONFIRM WHAT THE OPERATING EXPENSES WOULD, CAN BE. THERE WOULD BE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT THING AND THERE WOULD BE A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT. IT WOULD COME BACK TO FERC FOR FINAL RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FINAL AGREEMENT, THEN TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION WITH THE FINAL NUMBERS AND AND LAYOUT. YEAH. AND IN TERMS OF SHARING, WHAT I ENVISION VERY SIMPLISTICALLY, SUNSET HARBOR COMES BACK WITH DOCUMENTATION AND SAYS, UH, ANNUALLY COST US A DOLLAR TO ESSENTIALLY OPERATE THIS. AND THE CITY COMES BACK AND SAYS IT'S GONNA COST US A DOLLAR 20 GOING FORWARD. I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, IT WOULD BE FAIR THAT SUNSET HARBOR MAINTAINS, YOU KNOW, THEIR HISTORICAL OPEX UH, SHARE AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE THE SHARE WHERE WE HAVE TO OPERATE ABOVE AND BEYOND. BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST VERY ELEMENTARY. UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZAL, THEN SARAH? YEAH, THIS IS JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THIS TYPE OF WORK IS WHAT THAT LEGISLATION THAT I MOVE FORWARD, THAT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL WE COULD REQUEST INFORMATION, WE COULD REQUEST, UH, THIS TYPE OF CONTRACT WORK. THIS IS WHY WE JUST DID THAT SIMPLE LEGISLATIVE FIX. JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A SECOND READING ON THAT, ISN'T THERE RICK? THERE IS. IT WILL BE IN OCTOBER. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THE REASON I WAS POINTING OUT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A, A DIRECTION TO EXPEND FUNDS ON THE DESIGN CONSULTANT. SO THAT'S STILL WOULD'VE REQUIRED GO. UH, I THINK GOING BACK, SEE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE MIGHT, THAT'S WHY I THINK RICK HAD INITIALLY INCLUDED THAT TYPE OF EXPENSE. NOW WE HAVE TO GO BUMP IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, JUST TO GET THAT DESIGN WORK DONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WOULD'VE PASSED IT THE WAY THAT RICK AND HIS TEAM WROTE IT, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE RIGHT NOW. SO WE WOULD SAVE SEVERAL MONTHS EVALUATION. UM, I WANT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE MIC MIC IS ON. UM, FIRST YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION OF HOW MUCH IS COST PER YEAR BECAUSE I PROVIDED THE SPREADSHEET. SECOND OF ALL, WE DO HAVE AN ENGINEER ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRM TO TELL THAT DID THE WHOLE NEW LIFT STATION BECAUSE WE HAD TO UPGRADE IT BECAUSE OF DERM AND THAT ALL THAT INFORMATION WE HAVE IN THE AIR, THEIR ENGINEERS CAN COME AND SIT DOWN WITH OUR ENGINEERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED AND THE RATING OF THE PUMP AND HOW WE RAISED THE ELECTRICAL PANEL. HOW WE HAD TO HAVE THE STAIRWAY WAY ABOVE FIVE FEET ABOVE THE SEA LEVEL. WE DID ALL THAT. AND WE PROMISED ORIGINALLY WHEN WE CAME HERE THAT THEY WERE GONNA [00:55:01] GET A WORKING LIFT STATION ALL DONE PERMITTED BY DERM, PERMITTED BY THE CITY RUNNING, INCLUDING WORKING, WE'RE DOING THE PIPE PIPE TEST BECAUSE THERE IS A ROCK THAT IS IN THE PIPE THAT WE'RE FIXING. AND THAT'S THE OUTSTANDING ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO DO. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR THAT THIS WASN'T DONE JUST BY OUR ENGINEER. WE HIRE A COMPANY THAT DOES THE LIFT STATION, AND THIS IS, AND THEY TOLD US SO THEY CAN SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND WORK OUT IF IT'S CORRECT OR NOT BY YOUR CO CONSULTANTS. THAT, THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, OUR CONSULTANT TO ASSESS GOOD THE EXISTING LIFT STATION TO ASSESS THE IMPROVEMENTS. YES. THAT ARE BEING EXECUTED AND, AND VERIFIED, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR PUBLIC UTILITY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT THAN THEY ARE ON THE PRIVATE LIFT STATION. I AGREE. AND REMEMBER, IT'S ALWAYS FOUR ENTITIES. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS 500 WAS AN AGREEMENT, IT'S A SINGLE ENTITY BUILDING. IF IT WAS A SINGLE ENTITY, WE WOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF YOU. IT WAS SUNSET HARBOR. SO THIS MAKES SENSE FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. UH, AGAIN, FOR US TO, TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE EXISTING LIFT STATION, UH, TO GET OUR CONSULTANT INVOLVED IN EXECUTING THE ASSESSMENT AND IDENTIFYING THE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED AND COMING UP WITH A, A DETAILED ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE CAPITAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE. BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GREATER CAPITAL INVESTMENT FROM THE, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS? UM, I GUESS THE, THE, THE FUNDING, JUST, JUST A MOTION TO TAKE THOSE ACTIONS FROM THE CITY STAFF. I, IS THERE A FUNDING, UH, COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? DO HAVE TO DESIGN FROM ON RETAINER THERE? YES. ANY BALLPARK IDEA? UH, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND LOOK INTO IT. AND, AND, OKAY. YEAH. AND IF I, IF I MAY, THE, IN THE, IN THE WATER AND SEWER FUND, THEY USUALLY HAVE SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR STUDIES AND DESIGN WORK. I, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE SIGNIFICANT. IT SHOULD BE WORK WITHIN NOT REQUIRING A BUDGET AMENDMENT. WE WOULD OF COURSE BRING IT IF NEEDED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. WELL, AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER TO KEEP THE CITY'S COST DOWN, INCLUDING TURNING OVER EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE TO SATISFY HOPEFULLY THE ENGINEERS TO SAY, THERE IS NO CAP COST. WE JUST NEED TO COME IN AND MAINTAIN THIS THING. 'CAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET THIS THING WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. YEAH. AND, AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF, UH, IF WE'D BE ABLE TO JUST DO A SANITY CHECK ON THE STUDIES THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE. YEP. TO ESSENTIALLY LEVERAGE SOME OF THE COSTS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY EXPENDED. YEP. OKAY. ALL GOOD. SO, UH, MR. CFO, IF YOU COULD, UH, NICELY WRAP THAT UP, HOWEVER YOU READ THE MOTION. THE, THE, THE DRAFT MOTION THAT I, UH, RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO, UH, NEGOTIATE A TRANSFER OF THE SUNSET HARBOR LIFT STATION TO CITY CONTROL WITH A SHARING OF COSTS BETWEEN THE PARTIES AFTER THE CITY HAS ENGAGED WITH THE CONSULTANT TO DUR DETERMINE SAID COST AND THE ITEM TO BE RETAINED AT FERC. I WOULD MAKE THAT MOVED. OKAY. SORRY, SIR. SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE WITH 18. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. THANK YOU. VERY ONE. THERE'S THE PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THE LINE. YES, PLEASE. HE JUST PUT HIS HAND OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, LET'S GO, UH, [NB 18. DISCUSS A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS RELATING TO REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS NO. 2024-234-ND, FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR SEAWALLS AND LIVING SHORELINES; AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH BCC ENGINEERING, LLC, AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST QUALIFIED TO SERVE AS THE PRIME/LEAD CONSULTANT FOR SEAWALLS; FURTHER, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WITH BCC ENGINEERING, LLC, AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH CUMMINS CEDERBERG, INC., AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE SECOND BEST QUALIFIED CONSULTANT FOR SEAWALLS; FURTHER, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WITH CUMMINS CEDERBERG, INC., AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH GHD SERVICES INC., AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE THIRD BEST QUALIFIED CONSULTANT FOR SEAWALLS; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH CUMMINS CEDERBERG, INC., AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST QUALIFIED TO SERVE AS THE PRIME/LEAD CONSULTANT FOR LIVING SHORELINES; FURTHER, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WITH CUMMINS CEDERBERG, INC., AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH MOFFATT & NICHOL, INC., AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE SECOND BEST QUALIFIED CONSULTANT FOR LIVING SHORELINES; FURTHER, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WITH MOFFATT & NICHOL, INC., AUTHORIZING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH GHD SERVICES INC., AS THE PROPOSER DETERMINED TO BE THE THIRD BEST QUALIFIED CONSULTANT FOR LIVING SHORELINES; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT(S) UPON THE CONCLUSION OF SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATIONS BY THE ADMINISTRATION. (PUBLIC WORKS)] ITEM NUMBER 18, UM, ON THE, LET ME READ, I HOPE, I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ALL THAT, DO YOU? NO, I'M GONNA SKIP THAT FOR VALID, BUT IF I MAY, UH, MB 18 IS A PROCUREMENT ITEM RELATED TO ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR SEAWALLS, UH, M MB 18 PER PERFECT VOICE. MAYOR FERNANDEZ, PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS AMAZING ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OF OUR, UM, LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING, I THINK IT WAS. UM, AND, AND THE REASON WHY, UM, I PULLED THE ITEM IS BECAUSE OF, OF ITS IMPORTANCE. WE HAVE FIVE MILES OF CITY OWNED SEAWALLS IN OUR CITY, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY DOING A LOT, UH, TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY SOUND, THAT THEY'RE PROTECTING OUR, OUR PUBLIC STREETS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FROM RISING TIDES. I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW DURING THIS KING TIDE PERIOD, THE, THE GREAT NECESSITY TO HAVE SOUND, SEA WALLS. AND ACTUALLY, UH, YESTERDAY WE HAD A SUNSHINE MEETING OVER IN THE PALM VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE WE WERE SEEING THE INTRUSION OF THIS WATER INTO, INTO OUR STREETS, AND HOW ENTIRE STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS JUST GOT TAKEN OVER BY THE INTRUSION OF THIS WATER. SO THIS CONTRACT, UH, FOR, FOR ENGINEERING [01:00:01] SERVICES, FOR SEA WALLS AND LIVING SHORELINE, IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE RESILIENCY OF OUR CITY. UM, I WAS REVIEWING THE, UH, DOCUMENTS AND I SAW THAT TWO COMPANIES, UH, WERE TIED IN THE, IN THE RANKINGS, UH, CUMMINGS AND MO AND MFA. AND WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THAT, UM, CUMMINGS WAS THE ONE THAT ENDED UP BEING RECOMMENDED. BUT WHEN I WENT BACK AND I LOOK AT THE, UM, AT THE SCORING FROM, FROM THE DIFFERENT, UM, PARTICIPANTS IN THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, THREE OF THE PARTICIPANTS HAD RECOMMENDED MFE AS THEIR TOP SELECTION TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES. AND CUMMINGS THE ONE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION ENDED UP GOING WITH, ONLY HAD TWO, UH, THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE GIVE, GIVE THEM THE TOP RANKING. SO ALL THAT I WANNA ASK IS FOR THIS TO GO BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW IT, TO SEE IF THE ADMINISTRATION FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH A RECOMMENDATION. UH, FOR ME IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON VERY CRITICALLY NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROTECT OUR CITY FROM FLOODING. AND WHEN I SEE THAT THERE'S A TIE AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING WITH THE COMPANY THAT MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE DIDN'T RANK ON THE FIRST PLACE, IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN. SO I JUST WANT THEM TO GIVE AN, YOU KNOW, A SECOND GLANCE AND SEE WHAT THEIR, WHAT FEEDBACK, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT GIVE US ON IT. HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST? NOTHING. PERFECT. , ? YES. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS VICE MAYOR. SO, SO, SO, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW AND TO, UH, AND TO, AND TO GIVE THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE. IT'S EX EXCITING ITEM. UH, VERY MUCH NEEDED. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE SECOND? I'LL SECOND. UH, COMMISSIONER. I THINK IT'S GONNA GO WE'LL. COME BACK TO FERC. I'M, I'M SORRY. SO WHAT THE, IS TO, FOR ADMINISTRATION TO RETURN TO, TO FERC WITH A FINAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND WE WILL, WE WILL BRING THAT BACK, UH, NEXT MONTH, I GUESS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD CALL NBH, UH, THE WOLFSONIAN, FIU UH, EIGHT, UH, NB EIGHT, UH, NO, I'M SORRY. NB 11. OH, I'M SORRY. OH NB 11 [NB 11. DISCUSS SPONSORSHIP OF THE WOLFSONIAN-FIU AUDIOVISUAL UPGRADE TO SUPPORT LOCAL CINEMA PROGRAMMING.] GUS SPONSORSHIP OF THE WOLFSONIAN FIU AUDIO VISUAL UPGRADE TO SUPPORT LOCAL CINEMA PROGRAMMING NB 11. UM, I KNOW, UH, WE HAVE CASEY HERE FROM THE WOLFSONIAN WHO HAS PREPARED A SHORT PRESENTATION. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE RECENTLY JUST GIVEN FUNDING TO ALL OF OUR CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS. BUT PRIOR TO KNOWING ABOUT THE STATE, UH, CUTTING THE FUNDING, AND IN PREPARATION FOR OUR MOVIE THEATERS CLOSING, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AROUND THE CITY IS UPGRADE, UM, AUDIO VISUAL EQUIPMENT. SO THAT IT IS, IT'S DCP, WHICH I BELIEVE IS DIGITAL. WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? CASEY? IS IT DC SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY, IT'S THE UPDATED. AND THE REASON WE WANNA DO THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, UH, THAT WAY THEY CAN SCREEN ANY MOVIE THAT COMES OUT BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS ACCELERATING SO RAPIDLY THAT IF YOU HAVE OLDER AV EQUIPMENT, YOU CAN'T SCAN CERTAIN FILMS. SO THERE'S A FEW COMPONENTS IN PLACE. NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT EVEN THE PROGRAMMING INVOLVED IN THIS IS NOT A RECURRING EXPENSE. IT WOULD BE A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. UM, NUMBER TWO, WE COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, GET SOME OF THIS FUNDING, UH, FROM THE G-M-C-V-B, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HOST FILM FESTIVALS AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO IF AND WHEN THE REGAL IS FINALLY CLOSED. AND WE KNOW THAT THAT CLOSING IS IMMINENT. AND NUMBER THREE, THE WOLFSONIAN, UM, WOULD HAVE SOME GREAT PROGRAMMING. I MEAN, FILMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ROMAN HOLIDAY OR BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S, AND IT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION. AND WE HAVE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY YOUR THUNDER, BUT, UM, I, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A LARGE ASK, BUT AS WE DO THIS ACROSS THE CITY, UM, WHEN YOU SEE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW, AND WE START TO HAVE THESE INDEPENDENT MOVIES SCREENED ALL ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING THE COLONY THEATER WITH THE HISPANIC DIASPORA, AND THE O CINEMA, WITH THE INDIE FILMS, AND THEN THE WOLFSONIAN WITH, YOU KNOW, FILMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ICONIC AND HISTORICAL AND RELEVANT, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE A, IT'S GONNA BECOME A DRAW. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET KNOWN FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE COMPETING WITH SO MANY OTHER AREAS NOW, WYNWOOD AND THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND BRICKELL CITY CENTER. WHAT DO WE HAVE? WELL, GUESS WHAT? YOU CAN COME TO MIAMI BEACH NEARLY ANY NIGHT OF THE WEEK AND SEE SOME INTERESTING FILM. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY COOL INITIATIVE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL IMPACT AND THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS, UM, I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT [01:05:01] YOU WOULD SOMEHOW CONSIDER IT. AND ON THAT, I WILL, UH, GIVE IT TO LISETTE AND CASEY. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UH, LISA ANTE, DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURE, CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. AND SO, UM, AS THE COMMISSIONER JUST QUEUED IT UP, UH, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S BEING PROPOSED ABOUT 18 PROGRAMS A YEAR. AND, UH, CASEY, THE DIRECTOR OF THE WOLFSONIAN, IS HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I KNOW WE HAVE A POWERPOINT. PJ, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, VICE. GO AHEAD. AND BY THE WAY, PJ, THE NEW LIGHTS ARE FABULOUS. JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT , THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER STAFF, FOR HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU. UH, I'M SORRY FOR THE CHAIR THAT MAKE THE DISTINCTION OF MAKING THE FIRST ASK FOR FUNDING FOR WHAT HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD MEETING FOR HIM. I BELIEVE SO. MY APOLOGIES FOR MAKING THAT DISTINCTION FOR YOU TODAY. UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT, UM, THE W WILSONIAN AUDIO VISUAL UPGRADE AND CINEMA PROGRAMMING PROPOSAL THAT WAS PROVIDED IN MB 11. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE WILSONIAN FIU AND ALSO A CITY OF MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT. OUR STAFF OVER RECENT MONTHS, HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF INCORPORATING CINEMA PROGRAMMING INTO OUR CORE PORTFOLIO OF PROGRAMS. THE INTENTION HERE IS TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE COMPLETELY AND, UH, AT OUR FACILITY SO THAT WE CAN COORDINATE EXHIBITION TOURS, CURATORIAL TOURS, AS WELL AS THE FILM EXPERIENCE. WE THINK THAT THIS HAS A NUMBER OF BENEFITS FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE AVAILABILITY OF CULTURAL PROGRAMMING. THERE'LL BE 18 PROGRAMS A YEAR, 12 PRODUCED BY THE WOLFSONIAN SIX THAT WILL OFFER UP FOR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS FILM FESTIVALS AND OTHER, UH, ENTITIES. WE THINK BY INVESTING IN THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BROADEN AND ENHANCE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ALREADY PRESENTING IN THIS AUDITORIUM SPACE. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE PARTNER WITH MDPL FOR THE ART DECO WEEKEND LECTURE SERIES. WE PRESENT THESE PROGRAMS THERE. WE ALSO HOST OUR FAMILY PROGRAMS IN THIS SPACE. WE ALSO HAVE BOOK TALKS AND OTHER ITEMS, SOMETIMES EVEN NEW ARTISTS PRESENT WORKS IN THIS SPACE. FILM PROGRAMMING AS A WHOLE IN MUSEUMS HAS BECOME A WAY FOR US TO DRAW ENTRY INTO MUSEUMS. EVERYONE'S BEEN TO A MUSEUM. I'M SORRY, EVERYONE'S BEEN TO A MOVIE. I HOPE EVERYONE'S BEEN TO A MUSEUM. UM, SO THEY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE AS FAMILIAR TO THEM, AND WE HOPE TO ENHANCE THAT FILM EXPERIENCE BY PRESENTING THE COLLECTIONS, THE EXHIBITIONS, AND THE CONTENT OF THE MUSEUM. FOR THOSE THAT ARE AVID MUSEUM GOERS, THE FILM IS AN ADDED ENHANCEMENT FOR THEIR EXPERIENCES. ALSO, THIS IS AN ONGOING COMMITMENT. WHILE OUR ASK IS ONE TIME SUPPORT FOR THE OPERATING COST, THIS WILL BE EMBEDDED IN OUR ANNUAL PROGRAMMING ONGOING. WE THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO ADD THIS ELEMENT TO OUR PROGRAMMING, UH, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. WE ALSO HAVE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT UNDERWAY AS IT RELATES TO THE EXPANSION OF THE WILSONIAN. WHAT THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO DO IS TRANSFORM THIS SPACE. UM, IT CURRENTLY IS A VERY STRUCTURED FORMAL AUDITORIUM SPACE. UM, ONCE WE COMPLETE OUR EXPANSION, OUR INTENTION IS TO CREATE A MORE INTIMATE, FLEXIBLE, CASUAL THIRD SPACE, STILL PRESENTING THE SAME SORT OF CONTENT, FILM SCREENINGS, LECTURES, AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. BUT POSSIBLY IN A MORE IMPROMPTU NATURE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE AD HOC OPPORTUNITIES. NO PRESENTATION TO FINANCE COMMITTEE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE, UH, NEEDS SHOULD INCLUDE NUMBERS, UM, OR OMIT NUMBERS. WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR YEAR ON YEAR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS, UM, AND LOOKING PARTICULARLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE THINK THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS BENEFIT THE MOST. UM, WE OFFER FREE FRIDAY EVENINGS, STATE OF FLORIDA RESIDENT ENTRY AND THE CULTURE CALL PROGRAM YEAR ON YEAR. WE'VE SEEN A 9% INCREASE IN THE UTILIZATION AND ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE AND PROGRAMMING. ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMING IS FREE FOR CITY OF MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY BIT OF THE PROGRAM, THE 15% INCREASE, EVERY BIT OF THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS. SOME PROGRAMS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST ARE NOTED, AND THEY HAVE SEEN A 62% INCREASE IN ATTENDANCE. JUST TO QUICKLY REVIEW THE PROPOSAL, WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE TIME CAPITAL FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE 80, ABOUT $86,500 TO SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT TO BRING A 4K EXPERIENCE TO THE, TO THE AUDITORIUM SPACE, THERE IS A ONE-TIME REQUEST FOR ANNUAL SUPPORT, UH, OPERATING SUPPORT TO LAUNCH THE PROGRAM FOR ITS FIRST YEAR, FOR THE FIRST 12 MONTHS. THAT'S A LITTLE, THAT'S A LITTLE, UM, ALMOST $34,500. AND IN THE INTEREST OF THE COMFORT OF OUR VISITORS AND PATRONS, THERE IS AN ELEMENT IN HERE FOR REQUESTING PADDED SEATING. UH, FOR 24,800, I WOULD NOTE WE ARE SOLICITING AND HAVE ASKED FOR FUNDING THROUGH A GRANT THROUGH FIU TECH FEE FUNDS. UM, AT THE TIME WHEN WE REQUESTED THAT GRANT, WE HAD NOT ENVISIONED OF BRINGING THE CINEMA PROGRAMMING IN-HOUSE. UM, SO THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE PROJECTOR THERE IS NOT QUITE AT THE LEVEL OF 4K. THAT'S $26,511. IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THERE IS THE FLEXIBILITY. THOSE [01:10:01] DOLLARS CAN BE APPLIED TO THE UPGRADED EQUIPMENT. WE WOULD NOT FORFEIT THAT GRANT. UM, WE SHOULD BE LEARNING ABOUT THE AWARD OF THAT GRANT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS. UH, IT'S DEPENDENT UPON WHEN THE, THE PURITY GOES IN FINISHING WITH SOME IMAGES. THIS IS SORT OF AN IDEAL SITUATION, THIS IDEA OF A THIRD SPACE. SPACE. THIS WOULD NOT BE IMMEDIATE. THIS WOULD BE OUR FUTURE, UM, AS WE F*****G ABOUT THE EXPANSION, CREATING SOME INTIMATE SPACES, CASUAL SPACES FOR PEOPLE TOGETHER. CURRENTLY, WE HOST CURATOR TALKS AND, UM, UH, EXPERIENCES BEFORE OUR LECTURES. THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES OF THE GATHERINGS AND THE GALLERIES BEFORE THE PEOPLE MOVED DOWN INTO PROGRAMMING INTO OUR AUDITORIUM. THIS PAST YEAR, WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH ON STAGE PROGRAM AND HOSTED THE MIAMI BEACH ROCK ENSEMBLE FOR OUR HALLOWEEN FAMILY DAY. VERY WELL ATTENDED EVENT. THIS IS IN THE SPACE. YOU SEE PROJECTIONS OF THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT BEHIND, BEHIND THE BAND AND THE PERFORMERS. AND THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF OUR PAST FILM PROGRAMMING WHERE WE MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR EXHIBITIONS, IN THIS CASE AN ITALIAN DESIGN SHOW FOR TEXTILES AND ITALIAN SCREEN, UH, SCREENING FOR ITALIAN STYLE. SIMILARLY, A RUSSIAN CONSTRUCTIVISM, UM, POSTER EXHIBITION, AND AN EX A PROGRAM SERIES OF CINEMA OF FILMS FOR RED AND THE BLACK. AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION. I'M WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LING GONZALEZ AND COMMISSIONER, BUT, OKAY. UM, WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD IS THAT THE WOLFSONIAN IS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE YOUTH ON WASHINGTON AVENUE AND BRING FAMILIES THERE. UM, I I FEEL LIKE SOME, SOMETIMES THE WOLFSONIAN IS A TREASURE THAT WE HAVE, AND IT HAS THE MOST STUNNING INDOOR CAFE. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. UM, WHAT I LIKE THE MOST ABOUT THE BENEFIT IS THAT FAMILIES GET FREE MEMBERSHIPS. AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MEMBERSHIPS WILL GET FREE MOVIES, . SO IN ESSENCE, ANY MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT CAN GO AND BECOME A MEMBER AND THEN THEREFORE SEE FREE MOVIES. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I I I, I, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS, IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO REACH A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TOURISTS AND WE HAVE RAINY DAYS, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A MOVIE THEATER TO GO TO, BUT POTENTIALLY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE WOLF 70. AND I KNOW THAT THE EXAMPLES THAT CASEY SHOWED WERE, UM, EVERY MONTH. BUT HOW MANY NIGHTS PER WEEK, UM, CASEY, IF WE INSTALL THIS, THIS ONE TIME RECURRING, GIVE YOU THE OPERATING EXPENSES? LIKE HOW MANY NIGHTS PER WEEK WILL THIS BE ACTIVATED? 'CAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I WANNA HAVE AT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE NIGHTS PER WEEK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WERE. SO GENERALLY, BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THE LECTURE SERIES OR A TALK, OR MAYBE BRINGING IN SPEAKERS TO ENHANCE THE MOVIE AND FILM EXPERIENCE, IT WOULD BE ONE EVENING A WEEK, OR ONE, ONE EVENING A MONTH, PLUS THE SIX ADDITIONAL THAT OUR PARTNERS WOULD DO. MM-HMM. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SCREEN THE FILM INDEPENDENT OF THE MORE ENRICHED PROGRAM EXPERIENCE. WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT. THAT'S JUST A QUESTION OF THE FEES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE LICENSING OF SHOWING THE FILMS. FOR ME, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE ONE MOVIE A WEEK, ONE A MONTH. I DON'T, THAT'S A LOT OF EXPENSE FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE PER MONTH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MOVIE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO HAVE YOUR DOORS OPEN. I KNOW IT'S A BIG ASK. I KNOW, I KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS GONNA BRING PEOPLE TO THE WILSONIAN. YOU CAN THEN START TO CROSS MARKET WITH THE CITY AND INVITE PEOPLE IN POTENTIALLY FOR LIKE A HAPPY HOUR, YOUR GORGEOUS CAFE PRIOR TO THE MOVIE. I MEAN, YOU REALLY HAVE A RESOURCE THERE THAT RESIDENTS DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT. AND I WOULD LOVE TO ACTIVATE THAT AREA OF WASHINGTON AVENUE. SO COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, YOU STOLE MY THUNDER. I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT WASHINGTON AVENUE. UM, BUT THE THING THAT, THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT THIS IS, IS, YEAH, EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS. YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, REVIVE WASHINGTON AVENUE WITHOUT DESTROYING ITS CHARACTER, BUT MAKE IT MORE OF A LIVE WORK PLAY. AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOUR BLOCKS FROM FISHER, FROM FEINBERG FISHER, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST UNDER, UNDER-RESOURCED SCHOOL IN THE ENTIRE CITY, I THINK, THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, GOOD THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THIS. NOT JUST FOR, UM, THE, THE REASONS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO THE BAND SHELL NOW UP IN NORTH BEACH, WHICH SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, IT'S NORTH OF 63RD. BUT THE, THE BAND SHELL IS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR LIVE MUSIC NOW, UM, FOR MANY REASONS, BUT NOT LEAST OF WHICH, UM, IS THE ENHANCED AUDIO VISUAL CAPABILITIES THEY HAVE. BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO THEY NOW HAVE AMAZING BANDS MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE PROJECTION IMAGERY. SO WHETHER IT'S JUST THE BAND STUFF THAT THEY'VE DONE, OR THEY INVITE IN, UH, PROJECTION MAPPING ARTISTS TO PROJECT THINGS SO THAT IF YOU, YOU CAN ENJOY THE MUSIC, EVEN IF YOU'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING FOR A WALK WITH YOUR KID AND YOUR DOG AFTER DINNER, YOU CAN PLOP DOWN AND NOT HAVE TO BUY A TICKET, BUT HERE [01:15:01] AND SEE THIS THING AS WELL. AND SO, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU ARE EXTREMELY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, AND I THANK GOODNESS 'CAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO BE, UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THE SEATS THING COULD WAIT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SUFFERED THROUGH THOSE SEATS, BUT THEY'RE NOT TERRIBLE. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE PLANKS OF WOOD WITH SPLINTERS. UM, IT, I THINK THAT CAN WAIT. IT WOULD BE AMAZING IF WE COULD GET THE FIU GRANT AND APPLY THAT. SO THE TOTAL ASK IS LOWER. BUT I, I ECHO MY COLLEAGUES', UM, COMMENTS ABOUT, LET'S THINK THE PROGRAMMING, THE BIG PROGRAMMING, THE THE LECTURES AND ALL THAT STUFF IS GREAT. BUT LET'S FIND WAYS TO MAYBE WITHOUT STRAINING YOUR, YOUR, UM, STAFF TO STAY UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT WITHIN THE OPERATING HOURS, UM, OR FINDING A WAY TO, TO MITIGATE THE COST OF OPERATING THIS, BUT FIND WAYS TO GET YOUNG MUSICIANS UNITED IN THERE, FIND WAYS TO GET THE KIDS ACROSS THE STREET WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE, UM, OF AVAILABLE TO THEM IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, FACILITIES. UM, AND IT IS AMONG ALL OF THE JEWELS OF CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS IN OUR CITY. AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY LUCKY TO HAVE SO MANY, PROBABLY THE LEAST WELL KNOWN AND THE LEAST UNDERSTOOD. AND IT IS, IT'S A MAGICAL LITTLE JEWEL BOX. AND OH, BY THE WAY, THE CAFE IS GREAT, AND THEY'RE GREAT GIFTS FOR PEOPLE AND AFFORDABLE GIFTS FOR PEOPLE WHEN YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT TO GET THEM. SO I WANT PEOPLE IN THERE. MY MOM IS AN ART HISTORIAN AND AN ART EDUCATOR AND A DOCENT. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DONE HER ENTIRE LIFE. AND THE WAY YOU GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CULTURE IS SNEAKING THEM IN THE BACK DOOR. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE HAVING CULTURE THROWN AT THEM, RIGHT? SO YOU GO IN BECAUSE YOUR FRIEND'S PLAYING AT A BAND, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME TIME BEFORE THE SHOW STARTS, AND THERE'S AN EXHIBITION ABOUT SOME COOL POSTER THAT YOU SAW. YOU WANNA GO SEE THE POSTER, OR I WANNA HAVE A SNACK AT THE, AT THE CAFE. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE BOOK AND OH MY GOSH, THAT'S A THING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THIS LIKE ECOSYSTEM THAT, THAT THRIVES AND AS A CITY, NOT JUST FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT AS A CITY THAT IS TRANSITIONING TO AN ARTS AND CULTURAL DESTINATION MORE THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST AND MORE THAN IT EVEN IS NOW. AND AS WE SEEK TO CHANGE OUR BRAND TO GET DIFFERENT KINDS OF TOURIST POPULATIONS, LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE A WHOLE BEACH MOVIE THEME WEEK, RIGHT? LIKE, SO WE HAVE WHERE THE BOYS ARE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER MOVIES WE CAN DIG UP ABOUT AND, YOU KNOW, CAST AWAY OR WHATEVER, UM, ALL BEACH THEME MOVIES THAT COULD GENERATE ALL KINDS OF TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DOLLARS. AND, AND THIS IS A, A QUICK PRESENTATION THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER, UM, WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF WEEKS OF BRAINSTORMING AND REACHING OUT TO SEE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT SCREENING, UM, MOVIES THAT WOULD'VE COME TO THE REGAL, BUT DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO ANYMORE THE WEEK THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER AT THAT LEVEL. SO THEY'RE ALMOST FIRST RUN, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENDLESS OPPORTUNITIES HERE. AND, UM, SO I WOULD, MY MY MOTION ON THIS WOULD BE TO TAKE OUT THE SEATS AND WE CAN REVISIT DOWN THE ROAD AND TO, TO APPROVE THIS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF WE GET THE FUNDING FROM FIU, OUR, UM, SUPPORTING OF THIS, UM, GETS REDUCED, APPROPRIATE, UH, ACCORDINGLY. I'LL SECOND THAT. ROSE. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, I LOVE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ'S IDEA, HER VISION TO BRING, UH, TO MAKE MIAMI BEACH A DESTINATION FOR FILMS, UH, TO MANY TIMES. AS, UH, COMMISSIONER AS OUR CHAIR, UH, JOE MAGAZINE MENTIONS, WE TALK OFTEN ABOUT THE CITY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE, AND WE OFTEN DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CITY WE WANT TO BE. UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE, UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ ON THE BOARD OF THE WOLFSONIAN. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THERE, COMMISSIONER FOR YOUR VISION IS, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS ELEVATES US. MM-HMM, THIS, THIS BRINGS US SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN ALL BE, UH, PROUD OF. AND IT'S A LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT THAT WE NEED ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. 'CAUSE THE POTENTIAL IS THERE. ALL THAT WE NEED IS THE INVESTMENT, THE DEDICATION, THE VISION, UH, INTO IT. SO, UH, PROUD TO SUPPORT YOUR ITEM COMMISSIONER. SO MY THOUGHTS, YES, WASHINGTON AVENUE NEEDS HELP. I'LL BE UP FRONT NOT EXACTLY MY CUP OF TEA. IT'S NOT THAT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PLACE FOR THIS, RIGHT? I JUST THINK ABOUT BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN TERMS OF, I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER TALKED TO ANYBODY THAT HAS MOVED ACROSS THE BAY, OR YOUNG PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT. THEY SAID, WELL, ONLY THERE'S A MOVIE ONCE A MONTH AT, AT WOLFSONIAN. I WOULDN'T HAVE MOVED. UM, BUT I'M NOT SO DOGMATIC TO THINK THAT MY WAY IS THE ONLY WAY. SO I TRY AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A BROAD ARRAY OF INTERESTS AND NOT JUST MINE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE SPEND THEIR EVENINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN I MAY SPEND MINE. AND THERE'S A PLACE FOR ART AND CULTURE. IT'S JUST BANG FOR THE BUCK WEIGHS ON ME. COUPLE [01:20:01] QUESTIONS. AND WE JUST FUNDED THE OC CINEMA, RIGHT? HOW, HOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATING FACTOR BETWEEN THE THEATER, UM, THAT I THINK LAST NIGHT WAS THE PREMIERE RIGHT AT SMA VERSUS WHAT THIS WILL ENCOMPASS? SO IN THE PAST, WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR FILM SERIES PROGRAMS, BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE ADEQUATE EQUIPMENT IN OUR FACILITY, WE DID A JOINT, UM, PROGRAM WITH SMA. AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, WITH MIAMI, MIAMI CINEMA TECH, UM, THERE WAS SOME CHALLENGES WITH DOING THAT PROGRAMMING. OF COURSE, SINEMA IS GONNA RESERVE THE PREMIER SPOTS FOR SHOWING THE FILMS THAT GENERATE THE INCOME TO SUPPORT THEIR ORGANIZATION AND THEIR MISSION. SO WE HAD A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FINDING APPROPRIATE SLOTTING IN TIMES. THE SECOND ITEM, UM, WAS THAT WE COULD NEVER AFFORD TO COMPLETELY BUY OUT THE THEATER. SO THE, THE PROGRAM WAS NOT COMPLETELY FREE. WE MAY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE AT THE WOLFSONIAN THAT WAS FREE, THE INDIVIDUALS WALKED ACROSS AND WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR THE MOVIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATING THAT ALL INTO ONE EXPERIENCE. ALSO, GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, O CINEMA'S DOING VERY NEW ART FILMS. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SORT OF IDEA OF WHAT WE LOOK AT. WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTENT THAT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR EXHIBITIONS. SO GENERALLY THAT SKEWS TOO MUCH. IF IT'S, UM, TRUE FILM AND NOT DOCUMENTARY, IT'S GENERALLY SKEWING TO THE PERIOD BEFORE 1950 AS IT ASSOCIATES WITH OUR COLLECTION. AND THEN IF WE ARE SHOWING DOCUMENTARY MATERIALS, IT'S GENERALLY TIED TO OUR COLLECTIONS AND TIED TO AN EXPERIENCE THERE. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DELIVER ALL OF THIS UNDER AIR CONTROL, UH, IN TERMS OF BEING FREE AT THE WOLFSONIAN. AND I WOULD SPEAK TO THE IDEA OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF EVENINGS THAT WE CAN DO FILM. YOU ARE CORRECT, WE CAN INCREASE THE NUMBER. AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WHEN WE'RE NOT USING OUR FRIDAY EVENINGS FOR OTHER PROGRAMMING CONTENT, HOW DO WE DELIVER CONTENT THAT WILL GENERATE INTEREST AND BRING INDIVIDUALS IN FROM, FROM THE STREET. AND AGAIN, IN A WAY THAT'S, AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT FOR FREE. SO THERE'S NOT A TICKET ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FILMS. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULTY. IT'S A QUESTION OF LICENSING FEE AND WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT MANAGES THROUGH THE BUDGET. QUICK SYNOPSIS. 'CAUSE THEN I HAVE A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. VERY QUICKLY. UM, SO AT THE O WE PURCHASED ABOUT $80,000, UH, WORTH OF EQUIPMENT. UH, THEY DID NOT A REQUIRE OPERATING EXPENSES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING AND THEY'RE ALREADY A MOVIE THEATER AND ESSENCE HERE WE'RE CREATING AND EXPERIENCE. WHAT I WOULD ASK COMMISSIONER BOTT, IF POSSIBLE TO ADD TO HER MOTION IS TO HAVE LIZ SET REACH OUT TO THE G-M-C-V-P TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD CONTRIBUTE AND IF THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF THE CHAIRS. WELL, I, I WOULD SAY, LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY MONEY TO CONTRIBUTE AND, UM, AND LET'S LEAVE IT OPEN AND SEE WHAT IT IS. AND I, I STILL THINK I WOULD RATHER GET THIS GOING NOW AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THE CHAIRS LATER. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF OUR BUDGET. I, AND IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE OR BREAK THE PROGRAM. SO I THINK ASKING THE G-M-C-V-B TO CHIP IN IS GREAT. UM, BUT LET'S DO THE CHAIR SEPARATELY. OKAY, SURE. UM, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. UM, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE. OH, WE'RE PUTTING IT IN NOW? CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING MR. CFO, WE DIDN'T HAVE $30,000 FOR LIGHTING ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE. UH, WELL THESE ARE A ONE TIME, UH, EXPENDITURE. UH, WE'RE STILL TABULATING THE OUTCOME OF, UH, THE FIRST BUDGET HEARING. AND WE WILL HAVE OUR SECOND BUDGET HEARING ON WEDNESDAY. UH, IF I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MATH CORRECTLY, 'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW HERE ALONG WAS THAT, I'M TRYING TO SEE HERE, IF WE WERE GOING TO HOLD OFF, IT WAS 1 45 AND CHANGE, UH, WAS THE TOTAL ASK. IF WE'RE GOING TO DEDUCT THE, THE SEATING PROJECT FOR NOW AT 24 8, YOU'RE AT ABOUT 1 21. UM, AND THEN IF THE, THE FIU GRANT COMES IN AND I THINK IT'S AROUND 26, 26 5 11, RIGHT? IF, IF, IF IT OKAY MINUS 26 5 11, YOU'RE DOWN TO AROUND $95,000. UH, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO SUPPORT A ONE-TIME, UH, GRANT TO SUPPORT THE AV UPGRADE, EXCLUDING THE CHAIRS, AND TO EXPLORE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH GMCB TO PERHAPS, HOPEFULLY, UH, FUNDING, UH, PART OF IT. BUT OBVIOUSLY TO KEEP, GET THIS THING MOVING, UH, IF THERE ENDS UP NOT BEING ENOUGH ONETIME DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THERE. THERE'S TWO WAYS REALLY IS WE TAKE IT FROM RESERVES, BUT ALSO WE HAVE A SUR YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A SURPLUS THAT WE'LL BE HANDLING, UH, AS OF THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND WE'LL, WE BRING IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN NOVEMBER AS WE ALWAYS DO, WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE ROLLED OVER, UM, FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. AND IT COULD COME FROM THAT ROLLOVER SURPLUS AT THE VERY LEAST. CASEY, JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS. MM-HMM. , UH, FROM THE ARD AND CULTURE GEO BOND, DID, UH, THE FIU WILSONIAN GET, UH, MONEY ALLOCATED THERE? CORRECT. WE HAVE. AND HOW MUCH? WE HAVE $5 MILLION, AND THAT'S TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE EXPANSION TO THE NORTH OF OUR BUILDING. AND TO ADD, UM, 25,000 [01:25:01] SQUARE FEET OF NEW PUBLIC SPACE. UM, BECAUSE OF THAT EXPANSION, WE'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, TRANSFORMING THIS SPACE TO A NEW AND DIFFERENT SPACE. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY INCLUDED IN THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PUBLIC SPACE AND WE'RE NOT CREATING NEW PUBLIC SPACE. UM, WE WERE REALLY TARGETING THOSE DOLLARS TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD AND CREATE NEW PUBLIC SPACE. OKAY. UM, WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS, LIKE I SAID, I, IT'S NOT MY VISION FOR WHAT'S GONNA DRAW PEOPLE TO WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER A, A DIVERSITY OF, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF THOUGHT AND INTEREST AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE HERE. UM, GOING TO SLEEP ON IT, UH, BEFORE THE BUDGET MEETING, UH, YOU KNOW, TO SEE KIND OF, OKAY, IF WE DO THIS, ARE WE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, UH, STREET LIGHTING OR THINGS LIKE THAT? UM, BUT I'M GOING TO, UH, BE SUPPORTIVE AND, UH, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE. SO, UH, I'M REALLY GONNA CONSIDER THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A VERY DIVERSE ARRAY OF, UH, INTERESTS AND, UH, VIEWPOINTS. E EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ME. SO I, I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE BRINGING THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU ALL DO A LOT AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A PARTNER HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. IF, IF I MAY ADD CHAIR, I THINK THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT NEED TO COME UP AT THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, SECOND BUDGET HEARING. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BEST IF, IF THE MOTION AS I HAD HAD LISTED IT FOR YOU FOR CONSIDERATION? 'CAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE IN FLUX HERE, RIGHT? SO THIS WOULD, IF THIS GOES BACK TO THE OCTOBER 30TH COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH WILL BE OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, I THINK THAT'LL GIVE TIME FOR THE TEAM HERE TO DEAL WITH TWO THINGS. ONE IS HOPEFULLY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FI FINAL GRANT AMOUNT WOULD NEED TO BE, BECAUSE WE'LL KNOW WHAT, HOPEFULLY THE F FI IF THE STATE GRANT COMES IN AND THEN ALSO LIZETTE TO WORK WITH G-M-C-V-B TO HOPEFULLY PARTNERSHIP. SO IT COULD BE AS HIGH AS 120,000. IT COULD END UP BEING AS LOW AS AS 30 OR $40,000 OF GMCB. SO I THINK HOPEFULLY, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER 30TH, THAT CAN DETERMINE IT WOULD GO BACK TO COMMISSION AS A RESOLUTION. AND THEN IF IT GETS APPROVED, WHATEVER THOSE DOLLARS ARE, I WOULD HANDLE THAT, UH, IN THE NOVEMBER BUDGET AMENDMENT. AND THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINE SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD AND SEE HOW WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE IN THAT. AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A MORE DEFINITIVE SORT OF STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROGRAMMING WILL BE, UH, ADDITIONAL FILMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YEAH. YEAH. FOR MY CONTINUED SUPPORT, I CERTAINLY NEEDED TO SEE SOMETHING MORE THAN ONE EVENING A MONTH. YEAH. YEAH. FOR SURE. YEAH, WE CAN WORK ON THAT. UM, AND JASON, IF I MIGHT, UM, THROUGH THE CHAIR, JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD. IF THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL FILMS OR, YOU KNOW, FILM WORKSHOPS OR WHATEVER, IF THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE THAT WE'RE NOT PURSUING, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON, BUT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO OR KNOW ABOUT, LET'S DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM. UM, AND SIMILARLY, IF THERE ARE, UM, MOVIE DISTRIBUTORS OR, I DUNNO HOW THE, THIS WHOLE INDUSTRY WORKS, BUT THERE GOTTA BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PSYCHED THAT THERE WON'T BE A PLACE TO GO SEE A FIRST RUN MOVIE IN MIAMI BEACH. AND SO TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOP OF THE LINE EQUIPMENT, LET'S DO A PARTNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE THEM OWN EVERY SECOND, EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT. YOU CAN SEE IT JUST OFF A FIRST RUN MOVIE. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T SEE IT OPENING NIGHT, BUT YOU SAW IT FOUR WEEKS AFTER IT OPENED. THAT THAT IS A THING THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THAT'S NOT YOUR ALLEY. I KNOW, RIGHT? BUT LET'S FIND OUT WHOSE ALLEY IT IS AND START THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ALSO DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS. THEY MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DO WANT REALLY SQUISHY, COMFY SEATS THAT DON'T GIVE PEOPLE SPLINTERS WHEN THEY SIT ON THEM. SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY OTHER TWO THOUGHTS. AND, UM, LISETTE YES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM AND PUSH FOR THE COMFY SEATS IN ADDITION TO SOME FUNDING TOWARDS THE EQUIPMENT, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I THINK IT COMPLETES THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE RIGHT NOW YOU GUYS HAVE THE, THEY'RE LIKE PLASTIC BUCKETS EAT, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT AWFUL, BUT THERE'S NOT A PLACE WHERE ON A RAINY DAY YOU'RE GONNA BE COMFORTABLE. SO, OKAY. OF COURSE. THANKS. THANK YOU CASEY, FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IF, IF THE MOTION THAT I READ, IF THE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT AGAIN OR PLEASE? UH, NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. UH, JUST NEED A, A, A MOTION, A SECOND AND A VOTE. SORRY. IS THAT A MOTION? S MOTION? YEAH. AND SECOND WAS ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. HOW [NB 5. DISCUSS BEAUTIFYING WASHINGTON AVENUE BY ENHANCING LIGHTING AND STREET-SCAPING] ABOUT WE MOVE ON TO NB FIVE, UH, DISCUSS THAT WHILE WE'RE ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, DISCUSS BEAUTIFYING WASHINGTON AVENUE BY ENHANCING LIGHTING AND STREET ESCAPING COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ. YOU HAVE A BROAD SUPPORT HERE, BUT WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND, UH, INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME. THE AESTHETICS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, NOT JUST WASHINGTON, BUT OCEAN DRIVE TOO. UM, WE HAVE LIGHTING ISSUES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE AND, UM, WHERE WE ARE GONNA FIND THE FUNDS. I'M ACTUALLY, AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. I I WANT YOU GUYS TO HEAR THIS 'CAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR WEIGHING IN, NOT JUST ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT I'M GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD AN ITEM TO, TO, UM, TO DO THE SAME ON OCEAN DRIVE. HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE TOURISTS COME USING THE GEO BOND MONEY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE LIGHTING, [01:30:01] WE STILL HAVE A CRIME PROBLEM HERE. I HAD A, A REAL ESTATE CLIENT THIS WEEKEND. IT WAS SO FUNNY. HE GOES, HE'S LIKE, HE'S KIND OF A NERDY GUY. HE GOES, I FELT SO COOL BECAUSE I I GOT OFFERED COCAINE WALKING DOWN THE STREET. NOW I'M LAUGHING ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT FUNNY. IT'S NOT FUNNY BECAUSE HE GOES, I'VE NEVER BEEN OFFERED DRUGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU COME TO MIAMI BEACH AND EVEN IF YOU LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER GONNA DO DRUGS, YOU'RE GETTING OFFERED DRUGS. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S PART NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING . AND SO WE NEED THE LIGHTING. WE NEED IT ON WASHINGTON. WE NEED IT. THEY MIGHT EVEN OFFER YOU A DRUGS RAY BRESLIN, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T, BUT YOU LOOK KIND OF LIKE A HIPPIE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE PKA BEADS ON OR SOMETHING. HE MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE POINT, THE POINT BEHIND THIS IS THAT WE NEED THIS LIGHTING. WE NEED IT ON WASHINGTON. FRANKLY. WE NEED NEW LIGHTING IN SIDEWALKS ON WASHINGTON AND WE NEED NEW LIGHTING AND SIDEWALKS ON OCEAN. I KNOW THAT IT'S FUNDED ON OCEAN. I'M GONNA BRING, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GEO BOND MONEY, I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA FIND THE LIGHTING FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A NECESSITY. IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP SOMETIMES. YOU ONLY HAVE THE POLICE LIGHTS. WE COULD FIND IT FROM THE WOLFSONIAN BUDGET. . THAT'S NOT FUNNY. BRAD . MR. CHAIR STORY. UM, RODNEY, YOUR COMMISSIONER? UH, VOICEMAIL. OH, RODNEY, I'M SORRY. I MEAN UP TO THE CHAIR. UM, TO THE TO YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS GO AHEAD RODNEY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. RODNEY KNOWLES, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND THE FIGURE THAT YOU, UH, HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE MEMO IS, UH, FOR THE LIGHTING, OF COURSE FOR THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF WASHINGTON AVENUE. AND THE MEDIAN, UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY LIGHTING IN THE MEDIAN, BUT THAT LIGHT IS, UH, PRETTY DIM. IT'S AT THE END OF ITS LIFECYCLE. UH, WE HAVE BURNOUTS ALL THE TIME AND IT'S NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY. UH, THE REASON WHY THE, UH, FIGURE FOR THE LIGHTING IS WHAT IT IS, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES, WE NEED THE 120 VOLT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO POWER THE LIGHTING. SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST LIFT. AND THE FIGURE INCLUDES, UH, MAINTENANCE FOR A YEAR. UH, REGARDING THE LANDSCAPE PORTION OF, UH, THE ASK, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. UH, GREEN SPACE MANAGEMENT DIVISION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS EXECUTED, UH, AN ENHANCEMENT FROM, UH, SOUTH POINT DRIVE TO FIFTH STREET ALREADY, UH, FROM FIFTH STREET, ALSO UP TO 11TH IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND SHOULD BE FINISHED SOON. AND THEY ANTICIPATE STARTING PHASE FOUR, UH, WHICH IS FROM 11TH, UH, TO 17TH BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, MR. CHAIR. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR INGROUND, BUT WE CAN WRAP THE TREES AND I THINK THAT WILL BE NICE. I'D REALLY PREFER TO DO PERMANENT LIGHTING. UM, THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT DOING THIS PRIOR TO SEASON TO BEAUTIFY THE AREA WILL BE SUCH A GESTURE OF GOODWILL BECAUSE AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, IN ADDITION, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT, EVEN IF WE CLEAN IT WITH OUR NEW GUM MACHINES AND IT IS IMMACULATE, IT'S JUST IN BAD SHAPE. THE OTHER DAY, UH, SOME RESIDENTS REACHED OUT TO ME AND THERE WAS LIKE, THE PEOPLE WERE TRIPPING IN THE MEDIAN. AND I WILL SAY THE CITY WENT RIGHT OUT AND YOU REPLACED THOSE PAPERS AND YOU REPLACED THE LANDSCAPING AND IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE THAT IS RIGHT WHERE THE LOWES HOTEL IS, WHERE ALL OF OUR TOURISTS ARE WALKING. SO, UM, THIS IS JUST ONE, ONE SIMPLE THING. I I HAD ONE QUESTION AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STUFF, 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS IS LIGHTING AND I'M SORRY I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. NO, IT'S FINE. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO JUST MAKE THE SIDEWALKS AT LEAST LOOK UNIFORM? CAN'T YOU JUST GO AND PUT SOME PINK CEMENT OVER ALL OF THEM AND MAKE THEM LOOK UNIFIED AND BEAUTIFUL? DO WE HAVE TO RIP IT UP? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD JUST GO OVER IT WITH A CEMENT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE? BECAUSE IT'S SO PATCHWORK. IF WE PUT IN THE LIGHTS AND WE, AND WE FIX THAT SIDEWALK PRIOR TO THE SEASON, YOU'RE GONNA FEEL TOTALLY DIFFERENT. WE REPAVED THE STREETS AND IT ALREADY LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER. PUT IN A LAYER OF CONCRETE, FRESH CONCRETE CEMENT OVER THE EXISTING SIDEWALK OF WORK. IT WILL SEPARATE, UH, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE TRUE, YOU HAVE TO POUR FRESH CONCRETE WITH THE AD MIXTURE FOR THE COLOR MIXED INTO IT SO THAT IT WEARS EVENLY OVER TIME. SO PUTTING CONCRETE ON TOP OF CONCRETE WON EXACTLY. IT WANTED HERE AND IT STARTS TO CRACK. I CORRECT. YEAH, IT WILL FEEL WELL. LET ME HEAR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE LIGHTING ITEM. AND BEFORE I BRING A SIDEWALK ITEM PRIOR TO SEASON, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT TOO. JUST GIVING THEM SOME LOVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN IN DECADES. I DO THINK THAT IT WAS A MANAGED DECLINE ACROSS OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE CITY DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE, UH, WHY WOULD THE SHOP OWNERS CARE? AND WHY WOULD PEOPLE, WHY WOULD YOU KNOW, VAGRANTS OR PEOPLE HAVING PARTIES CARE? BECAUSE THEY LOOK AROUND THEM AND THEY THINK [01:35:01] THIS IS ALREADY A DUMP. LET ME JUST DUMP ON IT SOME MORE. YOU KNOW. SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS HIGH PRIORITY AND UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. VICE MAYOR FERNANDEZ. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WILSON GONZALEZ, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR VISION WITH THIS REGARDING THE SIDEWALKS. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH EXCITEMENT, UH, ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING FULL-TIME RESIDENTS INTO THIS PART OF THE CITY THAT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IS AS PART OF THE LEGISLATIONS THAT ARE FLOATING OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO IN AND DO NEW, NEW HOUSING, YOU FIX UP SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES. YOU'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR REDOING THE SIDEWALK, UH, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES. AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, AS WE IMPROVE PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE'RE ALSO IMPROVING PUBLIC PROPERTY. UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN ACHIEVE AT A LESSER COST TO TO, TO THE PUBLIC. I JUST NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS WASHINGTON AVENUE DOING TO HELP ITSELF? IT IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES. WHY DO WE NEED THIS THERE? WE NEED THIS THERE. 'CAUSE THERE IS A PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. AND THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY THAT WE HAVE THERE IS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN CALIBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ATTRACTING NUISANCES TO THIS PART OF OUR CITY. AND THAT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR THAT WE HAVE THERE. WHAT IS WASHINGTON AVENUE COMMITTED TO DOING THE BID AND THE BUSINESSES THERE? WHAT ARE THEY COMMITTED TO DOING TO HELP TRANSITION, TO HELP CHANGE, TO HELP IMPROVE THE CALIBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE TO HELP TRANSITION FROM THE NIGHTCLUBS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVING PEOPLE EXECUTED OUTSIDE OF THEM THAT IS DRIVING THE NEED FOR RESOURCES TO BE PLACED THERE. AND SO, AND SO I'M ALL FOR THE CITY DOING ITS PART TO IMPROVE AREAS, BUT I REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE COMMITMENT FROM THESE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP THEMSELVES. 'CAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP. IT NEEDS TO BE A TWO-WAY STREET. AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THAT COMMITMENT RIGHT NOW TO HELP SEE THE TRANSITION OF THE AREA, THE IMPROVEMENT, THE NEW INVESTMENTS, THE FULL-TIME RESIDENTS, THE TRANSITION OF THE PROBLEMATIC NIGHTLIFE. AND LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, THERE'S PROBLEMATIC NIGHTLIFE AND THEN THERE'S NIGHTLIFE THAT'S NOT PROBLEMATIC AND THEY BOTH EXIST THERE. BUT WE KNOW VERY WELL THAT THERE ARE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS PART OF, OF THE CITY THAT IS, THAT ARE ATTRACTING CRIME, THAT ARE ATTRACTING DRUG DEALING, THAT ARE ATTRACTING PROSTITUTION. WERE, WERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN KILLED AT. AND I NEED TO KNOW WHERE DOES WASHINGTON AVENUE BID STAND IN THIS, EVOLVE AT THIS TRANSITION THAT WE NEED TO SEE OF WASHINGTON AVENUE BEFORE I COMMIT THE USE OF PUBLIC TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, UH, IN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. YEAH. UH, VICE MAYOR, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. UM, PERHAPS ONE OF THE REASONS I DON'T GO TO THE WOLF. SO MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT LAST NIGHT, I ACTUALLY, IRONICALLY NOT EVEN THINK OF THIS ITEM. I WENT BACK AND THIS EMBARRASSING BUT WATCHED SIX HOURS OF COMMISSION MEETING FROM 2019 AND IN FACT THERE WERE WASHINGTON AVENUE LDR AMENDMENTS. AND IT MADE ME, IN A WAY WORRIED BUT ALSO SO PROUD OF THE VISION THAT OUR COMMISSION IS TAKING. BECAUSE FIVE YEARS AGO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT LDR INCENTIVES FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, RIGHT? THE SAME THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 'CAUSE IT NEEDS IT. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, RIGHT? BUT THE VISION THAT THEY HAD FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE WAS INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT THAN THE VISION THAT OUR COMMISSION HAS RIGHT NOW. SO, SO THE VISION AND THE INCENTIVES THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING, THEY WERE PROVIDING HE INCENTIVES FOR OFFICE WITH NO OFF STREET PARKING, RIGHT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INTENSITY, THINK IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE WITH NO PARKING, THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED. AND IN 2019 THEY WERE PUTTING FORWARD CO-LIVING MICRO UNITS WITH NO PARKING. AND THEN ALSO SOME, UH, UM, GROUPS WITHIN THE CITY CAME UP AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T EVEN WANT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY [01:40:01] RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. 'CAUSE THAT'LL GET IN THE WAY OF OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. SO I COMMEND THE VISION OF THIS COMMISSION OF REALLY PIVOTING AWAY FROM THE EXECUTION STYLE ENTERTAINMENTS AND THE SEEDINESS AND GRITTINESS THAT WE SEE ON WASHINGTON AVENUE AND NOT SETTLING FOR THE STATUS QUO. NOW IT'S JUST FINE TUNING EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING WHAT THAT VISION WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT ALSO ALL OF US KIND OF SEEING THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND ESPECIALLY MIAMI AND SOUTH FLORIDA AND THAT WE CAN ASPIRE FOR BETTER. UM, SO RODNEY, HOW DOES THIS DIFFERENTIATE OR IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED? AND APOLOGIES FOR PUTTING ON THE SPOT IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH, BUT THE BUDGET ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE END OF THE BUDGET MEETING THIS PAST WEDNESDAY, AND MAYBE THAT'S BETTER ANSWERED BY THE CFO IF YOU AREN'T HANGING ON EVERY SINGLE WORD AT 9:00 PM , I BELIEVE YOU'RE, UH, ADDRESSING, UH, TROY, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BID WHERE HE HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR 30 OR $40,000, 36,000 TO CONTINUE, UH, FOR THE MAINTENANCE ELECTRICITY OF I GUESS SOME DECORATIVE LIGHTING THAT THEY HAVE. I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE THAT INFO ON WHAT ASPECTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S DECORATIVE LIGHTING THAT THE BID DOES COVER IN, IN, IN THAT WASHINGTON AVENUE COURT OR, YEAH, BUT COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ IS EXACTLY RIGHT. NOT JUST FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT THE REST OF OUR CITY. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITY IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, RIGHT? SO I THINK AT A BARE MINIMUM, UM, MAYBE LONGER TERM AMBITION, WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SIDEWALK LIGHTING, AND I LOVE COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ'S IDEA OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THERE, NOT ONLY WITH LIGHTING, BUT I SAW IN 2019 THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE A IPP, UH, COMPONENT FOR LINCOLN ROAD. AND ALSO, AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR VISION ON LINCOLN ROAD IN 2019, THEY APPROVED HOTEL HEIGHT INCREASES WITH NO CAP LIMITS ON THE AMOUNT OF HOTELS. THEY GO, OKAY, THIS SHOULD SPUR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 500 HOTELS. LET'S PUT A CAP AT 500. THEY GO, NAH, LET'S HAVE NO CAP. RIGHT? BUT WE'RE PIVOTING AWAY FROM MORE AND MORE HOTELS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ADDED WAS, UH, CONTRIBUTION TO THE A IPP FUND AND HOW COOL WOULD WASHINGTON AVENUE BE WITH OUR NEW REIMAGINATION IF WE HAVE ART ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT, RIGHT? TO HIGHLIGHT THE WOLFSONIAN FIU MUSEUM THAT WE HAVE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES OUT FRONT. WHAT STARTING TO LIGHT THIS STREET IS AN IMMEDIATE LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE NEED RIGHT AWAY. SO, UM, THANK YOU. UM, A AGAIN, I IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S, IT'S SUCH A DIFFERENT VIBE FROM WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN, 21 YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, AND FOR THE LAST DECADE, UH, IN CITY HALL THAT WE'RE ALL SEEING THE SAME PROBLEMS, BUT ACTUALLY FINDING WHAT WE THINK ARE GOOD DIRECTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESS THEM. I THINK THIS INITIATIVE IS AN EXCELLENT ONE. I THINK WE'RE NOT THERE YET. NOT LEMME TELL YOU WHY. UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO REVITALIZE WASHINGTON ROAD, UH, WASHINGTON AVENUE WITH MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL. YOU KNOW, THINK OF WHAT SUNSET HARBOR WAS WHEN MY KIDS WERE GOING TO BALLET IN A GARAGE THAT WAS A MAKESHIFT BALLET STUDIO IN A PERFORMANCE SPACE AT NIGHT. UM, WE COULD HAVE THAT KIND OF REALLY COOL LIVE WORK PLAY ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE. SO THE GOOD OPERATORS WHO, YOU KNOW, TWIST AND, AND SOME OF THE CLUBS THAT ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD STILL BE THERE AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK DOWN TO YOUR FAVORITE JOINT AND, AND HAVE A GREAT, GREAT TIME DANCING YOUR HEAD OFF AND THEN COME HOME. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT AND HOW TO REVITALIZE LINCOLN ROAD IN SIMILAR, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT NOT TOTALLY DIFFERENT WAYS. AND TO ME THERE'S SORT OF A CONTINUUM, RIGHT? LIKE YOU WALK UP WASHINGTON AND, AND THEN YOU, YOU TAKE A LEFT ON ONTO LINCOLN ROAD AND YOU KNOW, TO ME THIS SHOULDN'T BE DONE AS A ONE-OFF. TO ME, THIS SHOULD BE DONE AS A A, A PART OF A COLLECTIVE DISCUSSION OF UM, UM, HOW TO REIMAGINE THESE PARTS OF THE CITY. WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE RIGHT ONES, GET WHAT WE WANT. WE'RE HAVING A SORT OF AN INTERNAL CONVERSATION THAT MAY ALSO TURN INTO A, UM, AN EXTERNAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THIS SHOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT, IT IS NECESSARY. BUT I ALSO, UM, TO, TO THE POINT, I FORGET WHO MADE IT, BUT WASHINGTON AVENUE IS ACTUALLY HOME TO SO MANY OF OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS. UM, AND I HAVE THIS VISION, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS, EVEN WELL BEFORE I WAS CONSIDERING A RUN FOR COMMISSION WHEN I WAS ACTUALLY BEING APPROACHED, BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE WASHINGTON AVENUE [01:45:01] BID IN ANOTHER LIFE. WOW. I KNOW DIFFERENT STORY FOR A DIFFERENT TIME. UM, BUT THERE, SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE AMAZING CULTURAL ARTS INSTITUTES THAT GO ALL THE WAY FROM SOUTH POINT UP TO, UM, THE FILLMORE. AND THEN IF YOU KIND OF FUDGE WASHINGTON AVENUE TURNING INTO COLLINS, YOU'VE GOT, UM, FAINA AND THEN YOU HEAD UP TO, UM, WHAT USED TO BE THE HISTORIC HOTEL DISTRICT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE REVITALIZED WITH PERFORMING ARTS LITTLE, YOU KNOW, JAZZ CLUBS AND STUFF UP THERE. AND THEN YOU HIT THE BAND SHELL AND THEN TAKE A HARD LEFT. AND YOU'VE GOT THE NORMANDY FOUNTAIN AND YOU'VE GOT TWO INCREDIBLE FINE ART GALLERIES THAT HAPPENED ORGANICALLY. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE BYRON CARLISLE TO ME THAT THIS SHOULD BE THE CULTURAL CORRIDOR OF MIAMI BEACH. AND IT IS THE BACKBONE OF WHO WE ARE AND, AND NOT JUST WHO WE ARE, BUT, BUT HOW YOU, HOW YOU MAKE YOUR WAY THROUGH, THROUGH OUR CITY. AND SO TO ME, THIS IS A BIGGER OPPORTUNITY AND I WANT THE WASHINGTON AVENUE BID TO STEP UP. I THINK THEY HAVEN'T HAD A, A AN INCREASE IN THEIR DUES IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS. AND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT ARE AFOOT. THEY NEED TO BE A PART AND PARTNER IN THIS EFFORT. AND SO TO ME, THIS IS, I I WOULD ALMOST, I WON'T MAKE THE MOTION TO REFER 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT TRIGGERS SOMETHING, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO, UM, HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE BEST WAY FORWARD IS TO MAKE SURE THESE NEEDS GET ADDRESSED AND THEN, BUT FACTORED INTO THE BIGGER CONVERSATION. COULD I SAY SOMETHING? UM, I WOULD'VE NO PROBLEM DEFERRING THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY TAKE THIS ITEM AND DEFER IT FOR A FEW MONTHS WHERE WE'RE GONNA SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER. I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT AT THE NOVEMBER FERC. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY I'M GONNA GO, I WANNA GO OUT IN ADDITION TO THIS LIGHTING AND FIND OUT, UM, WITH THE CITY WHAT THE COST OF, UM, REPAIRING SOME OF THE CONCRETE IS. AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHY. WHILE CHANGING THE ZONING IS WONDERFUL AND WHILE BUILDERS WILL COME IN AND DO IT, WE'RE TALKING FIVE YEARS AWAY. AND IN THE INTERIM, I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE CARE ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE REALLY SEEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS A MANAGED DECLINE. IT WAS LIKE ZERO INVESTMENT ACROSS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. IT, BY THE WAY, 10 YEARS AGO, YOU STILL HAD LIVELY RETAIL THERE, OKAY? BUT WHEN YOU HAD NO POLICE PRESENCE AND ZERO INVESTMENT IN ANY PART OF THE CITY, NOT THE SIDEWALKS, NOT THE LIGHTING, NOT OF COURSE RETAIL MOVED OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS DRIVING UP THE, THE NICER PART OF WASHINGTON AVENUE FURTHER SOUTH THE OTHER DAY AND I SAW THAT WE GOT HAD LIKE, UH, A RETAIL STORE OPEN LIKE VILLA OR CAT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AND EVEN CONSIDER OPENING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IF THE SIDEWALK LOOKS LIKE A PITCH, LIKE PATCHY MISHMOSH AND THESE EXPENSES TO, UM, AT LEAST CHANGE THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, ON WASHINGTON COLLINS AND OCEAN AND PUT IN NEW LIGHTING, THAT IS GONNA MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND BY THE WAY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THERE, UM, ARE GONNA SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ALSO STUCK BECAUSE WE APPROVED ALL OF THIS ZONING AT THESE LUXURY PROJECTS. THE CHAVET PROJECT, UM, THE RITZ CARLTON, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY TOLD ME? THEY TOLD ME THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BUYING THEIR UNITS BECAUSE THEY'RE WALKING TO WASHINGTON AND SEEING THE CRAP THAT WE HAVE DOWN WASHINGTON AND THEY DON'T WANNA INVEST IN THE CITY. AND THAT TO ME IS VERY SAD. SO SAYING, I DON'T WANNA INVEST IN LIGHTING ON WASHINGTON. WE DON'T WANNA FIX THE SIDEWALKS, LET'S CHANGE THE ZONING AND WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO, THAT'S TOO LONG BECAUSE WE HAD THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO COME HERE AND THEY CAN'T CLOSE THEIR SALES. AND THAT IS SCARY. SO I WANNA HELP THEM IN SOME WAY. AND, UM, I COULD DEFER THIS TO NOVEMBER, DO SOME WORK TO FIND OUT A TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE FOR THE SIDEWALKS AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME OF THE GEO BOND MONEY ON BOTH OCEAN DRIVE TO SEE HOW WE COULD DO THIS TO FINALLY INVEST SOME MONEY IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. WHICH BY THE WAY, IT'S WHAT MAKES US FAMOUS, ICONIC. IT'S WHY PEOPLE COME HERE. AND BY THE WAY, IT WILL GO A REALLY LONG WAY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO WALK DOWN AND LOOK HOW AWFUL IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T CARE. IT LOOKS LIKE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU DON'T, YOU'RE WORKING WITH WHAT YOU HAVE. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION TO, TO MAINTAIN IT. BUT NOW WE KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE ARE GOING TO, I I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE MOVING FORWARD, WANNA BUILD THIS LIVE WORK AND PLAY. BUT IN THE INTERIM TOO, I WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE SOUTH OF FIFTH ON THE SIDEWALK. I I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. UH, BUT I, I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. CHAIR. HERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WASHINGTON AVENUE, THE SIDE, THE SIDEWALKS MIGHT NOT BE LOOK THE CLEANEST, AND THERE ARE WAYS OF REMEDIATING THAT THROUGH SANITATION. AND OUR COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ HAS ENDEAVORED IN AN, IN AN EFFORT, AND I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS, IS WORKING ON THIS, OUR BUDGET, I BELIEVE MR. MR. CFO, WE HAVE SIX POSITIONS IN OUR BUDGET TO SUPPLEMENT WITH, WITH PRESSURE CLEANING IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW. UM, BUT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, HERE WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY LOOKING FOR MORE MONEY TO REDO SIDEWALKS IN WASHINGTON AVENUE. WHEN I GET A FLOOD [01:50:01] OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT BROKEN SIDEWALKS IN NORTH BEACH, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT NORTH BEACH NOT HAVING RECEIVED NEW SIDEWALKS IN YEARS. UH, AND, AND SO, AND, AND SO AND SO, AGAIN, NORTH BEACH MIGHT NOT BE AS FAMOUS AS WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT THERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SEGMENT OF RESONANCE. WE HAVE AN AREA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THEY'RE, AND, AND, AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN. PEOPLE ARE, ARE COMPLAINING DAY IN, DAY OUT, NOT ABOUT DIRTY SIDEWALKS, ABOUT BROKEN SIDEWALKS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH SAFELY THROUGH THEM. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO TODAY TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THE LIGHTING. UM, AND BETWEEN TODAY AND THIS GOING TO COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHAT COMMITMENTS REALLY THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THE BID ON WASHINGTON AVENUE IS WILLING TO MAKE, TO TRANSFORM THE DANGEROUS FEELING THAT PEOPLE GET WHEN THEY GO THERE. THAT HERE WE'RE TRYING TO REMEDIATE THROUGH DECORATIVE LIGHTING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE FEEL. IT'S A CALIBER OF THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE HAVE THERE THAT'S GOING TO TRULY CHANGE, UH, HOW, HOW, HOW PEOPLE FEEL WHEN THEY GO TO WASHINGTON AVENUE AND INVESTING MORE MONEY ON, ON, UM, ON SIDEWALKS. I'D RATHER SEE THAT IN NORTH BEACH, WHERE NORTH BEACH, YOU KNOW, NEEDS AND COMMISSIONER BAD, YOU LIVE UP THERE. YOU PROBABLY GOT MORE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAN WHAT I DO. AND I KNOW I GOT THEM DAILY ABOUT THE BROKEN SIDEWALKS UP THERE. AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ. I KNOW THIS IS COMING FROM A GOOD PLACE. YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THIS AREA IMPROVE, BUT IT REALLY HAS TO BE BOTH ENDS OF THE TABLE COMING TOGETHER AND COLLABORATING. AND I MEAN, I, HERE, HERE, HERE, I HAVE LINCOLN ROAD, UH, SITTING IN FRONT OF US AND THEY, AND, AND, AND THE LINCOLN ROAD BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SO HARD, YOU KNOW, TO IMPROVE. THEY REALLY PUT MONEY ON, ON THE TABLE TO TO, TO TRY TO SEE AN IMPROVEMENT THERE. AND THERE'S STILL MUCH WORK TO BE DONE, BUT THEY'RE LIKE ACTIVELY OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, ALDO, I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE. NO, WHAT IS IT? ALO? HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE IT? OLO. OKAY. I CAN'T PRONOUNCE IT LIKE THE CHAIR DOES, BUT, UM, IT MIGHT VERY WELL BE AO, I DON'T KNOW, ALOE COMING, COMING, COMING INTO LINCOLN ROAD. WE'VE SEEN, WE SEE NEW RESTAURANTS. IT IS INTERESTING. UM, THIS SUMMER I WAS IN EUROPE AND, AND, AND THERE'S AN ITALIAN RE UH, RESTAURANT ON LINCOLN ROAD. AND, UM, AND I WAS IN ROME, UM, AND IN ROME, UM, ROBERT AND I, WE WERE ABOUT TO GO TO DINNER AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR RESTAURANTS. AND I SEE ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT CAME OUT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED IN ROME, UH, WAS RIA DE FORTUNA. AND I GO ON THEIR WEBSITE AND I'M LOOKING AT THEIR WEBSITE AND I'M LIKE, GOSH, THIS NAME SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR. I'M LOOKING AT THEIR WEBSITE AND I SEE THEIR LOCATIONS AND I SEE THEIR LOCATIONS. UH, SOMETHING LINCOLN ROAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ADDRESS. I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, THIS IS AUSTRIA. THE FOR TUNA THAT'S ON, ON LINCOLN ROAD. AND SO AND SO, LIKE YOU SEE THE COMMITMENT TO BRING IN GREAT CALIBER ESTABLISHMENTS IN A PLACE LIKE LINCOLN ROAD. IT'S WHY I'VE NEVER HELD BACK FROM MAKING MORE INVESTMENTS ON LINCOLN ROAD TO HELP WITH THAT, WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T, I NEED TO SEE THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT FROM THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. YEAH. SO ARE YOU VOTING FOR OR AGAINST, I AM VOTING FOR THIS TODAY AT COMMITTEE, BUT, BUT BETWEEN TODAY AND THIS, GOING BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION, I'M MAKING IT VERY CLEAR. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE COMMITMENT, WHAT IS THE PLAN THE WASHINGTON AVENUE IS COMMITTING TO, TO SEE THE TRANSFORMATION THAT WE NEED ON THOSE BUSINESSES. OTHERWISE, I'M MAKING IT VERY CLEAR TODAY. DO NOT COUNT WITH MY SUPPORT AT THE CITY COMMISSION COMMISSIONER BOT. SO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THOUGHT THERE'S A MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL NOVEMBER. SO YEAH, THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS OUTSIDE, I WAS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER'S. OKAY. BUT, SO I, I HAVE, IF, IF I MIGHT, SO I, I DON'T DISAGREE. COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR FERNANDEZ. UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. AND I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT COULD BE DONE WHEN, HOW MUCH, WHO'S PUT PAYING FOR WHAT. WE DO NEED TO SEE THE WASHINGTON AVENUE BID STEP UP AND, AND DO MORE IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, FUNDING THINGS LIKE THIS OR, OR LEADING THE CHARGE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MECHANICS ARE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CONVERSATION. RIGHT. WE, WE KNOW AND WE ARE MORE ATTENTIVE TO THE, THE ISSUES THAT ARE PLAGUING THE CITY FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. AND THERE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE DOING JUST FINE. UM, AND, AND THERE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED SOME TLC. THIS IS A BIGGER, THE, THE WASHINGTON AVENUE CONVERSATION IS A BIGGER SORT OF, [01:55:01] UM, TRANSFORMATIONAL ECONOMIC IMPACT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MISSING MIDDLE KIND OF CONVERSATION. AND I THINK THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEGINNINGS OF IT ALONG WITH THE STUFF THAT WE'VE TALKED, HANG ON ONE SECOND. UH, ALONG WITH THE STUFF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AT COMMISSION, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVIZING DIFFERENT KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME. WE KNOW FOR A FACT, I TRIP OVER IT MYSELF ALL THE TIME, UM, THAT THERE ARE JUST EONS BLOCKS UPON BLOCKS OF AREAS IN NORTH BEACH WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE OUT AND THE, YOU KNOW, IT FLOODS ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SPRINKLING, IT FLOODS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T THE RIGHT DRAINAGE THINGS SET UP FOR WHAT EXISTS NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LIKE A MILLION THINGS GOING, UM, THAT HAVE GONE UNATTENDED IN NORTH BEACH. AND SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS, BUT I SHARE MY COLLEAGUES', UM, CONCERN ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO DO THE BASIC BLOCKING AND TACKLING, UM, ON MAINTENANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT AN ECONOMIC DRIVING, YOU KNOW, GAME CHANGER INVESTMENT. THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT. THEY BOTH NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO C CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I KNOW THAT I SAID THAT I WOULD DEFER IT TO NOVEMBER, BUT IF COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ IS WILLING TO SUPPORT IT, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD PROFFER. IF WE PASS THIS TODAY, WAIT, UH, YES. TODAY, IF WE PASS IT TODAY IN AN OCTOBER, YOU'LL HAVE THAT LIGHTING FOR THE SEASON. WHEN OUR GUESTS COME AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA WALK, IT'S GOING TO GO A LONG WAY TO BE, DO YOU I'LL SUPPORT THE MEDIAN LIGHTING MEDIAN. I MEAN, I'D LIKE THE, THE WHAT? THE TREE LIGHTING AND THE MEDIAN. HOW MUCH IS THAT IN THE WHOLE 2 72? THAT I'LL SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. I, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S START WITH THAT. LET'S START WITH THE 2 72. I LIKE IT ALL DONE. BUT IF WE CAN'T, UM, IF WE CAN'T DO, UM, IF WE, IF WE CAN'T DO THE, THE, ALL OF THE TREE LIGHTS, SO WE'RE GONNA BE, WHERE'S THE 2 72 IN HERE? I'M LOOKING AT IT. EAST, WEST PAGE ONE 40, RIGHT? TWO 40. OKAY. THE NUMBER, LIKE 1 45? NO, ON PAGE ONE 40 IT SAYS FIFTH TO 17TH STREET MEDIAN TREES. YES. THE 2 72. LET, OKAY, LET'S DO THE MEDIAN TREES. AND THEN HERE IS A, A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, I HATE THE IDEA OF ANY SIDEWALK IN OUR CITY BEING BUSTED. AND IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I'D HAVE SOMEBODY JUST GOING AROUND AND ONLY REPLACING PIECES OF SIDEWALK. I MEAN, I REPORT THEM CONSTANTLY ON THE APP. I LIKE, I SEE. I MEAN, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WELL, I THINK YOU NEED, I, MAYBE WE HIRE A DEDICATED SIDEWALK PERSON WITH A TEAM. NO, NOT JOKING. I'M NOT JOKING. I NEVER MANAGER DO NOTHING EVERY SINGLE DAY WOULD GO AROUND SOMEBODY RESPONSIVE AND REPLACE SIDEWALKS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PATCHWORK BETWEEN. NOW, IF WE APPROVE THE 2 72, UM, TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE OCTOBER MEETING, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF SIDEWALKS. I, I, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE US THE TIMELINE? BECAUSE THERE IS $10 MILLION OF GEO BOND FUNDING TO DO EXACTLY ALL OF THIS. LET'S JUST DO IT. I DO IT TODAY FOR, FOR THE SEASON. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU, BRIAN? BRIAN, WHAT TIME ARE YOU LEAVING TODAY? CAN YOU GO TO THAT PLACE BOX? OKAY. MARIA HERNANDEZ, UM, IN INTERIM, A CM AND, UH, STILL OVER THE GEO BOND. SO, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE GEO BOND TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT. UM, WE HAVE $10 MILLION FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE. THAT IS FOR A COMPLETE REDO OF WASHINGTON AVENUE, ABOVE GROUND, ONLY ABOVE GROUND, NOT UNDERGROUND. THAT INCLUDES SIDEWALKS, TREES, LIGHTING, ALL OF THAT. OKAY. UM, THE SAME FOR OCEAN DRIVE. WE HAVE $20 MILLION, AND THAT IS IN DESIGN AS WE SPEAK . SO THAT'S GONNA COME, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU VERY SOON. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, THANKS TO, UM, THE DECISIONS OF THE COMMISSION, REMEMBER THAT WE ALSO HAVE THESE $19.8 MILLION THAT WE TOOK FROM TRANCHE TWO, PUT 'EM INTO TRANCHE, ONE FOR SIDEWALKS, STREETS, TREES, UH, UH, SEA WALLS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO THOSE FUNDS, THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC FOR SIDEWALKS AND STREETS. UM, WELL, LET'S JUST TALK. SIDEWALKS ARE TO REPAIR BROKEN SIDEWALKS. SIDEWALKS THAT, UM, DON'T MEET A DA THAT, YOU KNOW HOW SOMETIMES THEY GET A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, IT'S TO GO AROUND THE ENTIRE CITY FIXING ALL OF THAT. AND WE HAVE A PLAN TO DO IT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. OKAY. JUST WHEN, WHEN DO WE START? IT'S ALL, IT'S IN THE WORKS. I MEAN, WE'RE DOING IT NOW AND WE'RE DOING IT IN NORTH BEACH. SOUTH BEACH. UM, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHOW THE MAPS. WE HAVE IT ALL MAPPED OUT. COULD YOU FOLLOW UP WITH A LETTER TO LTC? ABSOLUTELY. EXCELLENT. I'LL LET YOU KNOW. AND, UM, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, OF COURSE. SINCE WE HAVE THIS ABOVE GROUND MONEY FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, [02:00:01] AND BY THE WAY, WE HAD DONE ALL SORTS OF CRAZY DESIGNS FOR WASHINGTON, WHICH HAVE NEVER COME TO FRUITION, HOW WOULD YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT JUST SAYING, GO FOR IT. TAKE THE 10 MILLION AND WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, JUST REPLACE ALL THE SIDEWALKS, PUT IN NEW LIGHTING. IT'S GONNA ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS WHO WANNA BUILD THERE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GONNA COME THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA SEE WHAT YOU, WHAT WHAT YOU GOT. AND, UH, BY THE WAY, THE HOMELESS THAT ARE THERE AND THE THE, AND THE ELEMENT THAT'S THERE, WHEN YOU START TO BREAK ALL OF THAT UP, THEY'RE GONNA GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. THEY ARE, WE'RE GONNA SAY WASHINGTON AVENUE IS NO LONGER. AND BY THE WAY, THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO DON'T WANNA WALK THAT BEAT BECAUSE IT IS SO DISGUSTING. IT'S DISGUSTING. IT'S DISGUSTING. WE HAVE THE MONEY AND WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WAIT. I'M JUST SO SICK OF WAITING 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR 10 YEARS WAITING. WHY DON'T WE JUST, JUST DO IT? LET'S ALL SPONSOR IT. ALL FOUR OF US SPONSOR IT IN OCTOBER. GET IT DONE. MICHAEL CHABOT IS GONNA THANK YOU BECAUSE HE'S IN DEEP WITH BUYERS WHO ARE CANCELING. UH, THE OWNERS OF THE RITZ CARLTON WHO ARE, HAVE BUYERS WHO ARE CANCELING, ARE GOING TO THANK YOU. THE OWNERS OF THE SHORE CLUB AND THE DELANO ARE GONNA THANK YOU, THE OWNERS OF THE LOWE'S, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE HOW DISGUSTING IT LOOKS ANYMORE. AND EITHER CAN I, AND EITHER CAN I MAY, MAY I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? YEAH. OKAY. HOW DID WE GO FROM $30 MILLION FROM TROY LAST WEEK TO $273,000 TODAY ON, ON THIS MEDIAN LIGHTING THING? LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? AND THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. I DO WANT AN ANSWER FOR THAT. BUT MY SECOND POINT IS I AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND, AND I'M VERY EAGER TO SEE, UH, THE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON IT TODAY AND WE HAVE A PLAN. AND IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO ME ARE NOT MM-HMM. , I KNOW THERE'RE JUST TERMS OF PHRASE. SO I'M SURE YOU DO HAVE A PLAN THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON NOW, AND IT WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND SAY, HEY, THIS PART OF NORTH BEACH, YOU'RE LIKE, NEXT MARCH, THIS WHOLE AREA IS GONNA BE REPLACED, SO HANG TIGHT. RIGHT? BUT ALSO, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING FROM THE SPOT FIXES, RIGHT? IT'S ONE THING TO GO IN AND REPLACE SIDEWALKS, WHICH YOU DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR. IT TAKES A LONG TIME. THERE'S PERMITTING, WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. BUT ALSO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE DO A SWEEP OF THE CITY AND LIKE ANY PLACE THAT SOMETHING'S BROKEN, HAVE SOMEBODY JUST COME FIX IT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT WON'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A 20 YEAR FIX. IT NEEDS TO BE MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO MONTH OR TWO YEAR FIX. AND THAT'S BETTER THAN, THAN NOT. BUT, BUT I STILL WANT US TO PROCEED WITH SOME FORETHOUGHT THAT WE ARE REIMAGINING ENTIRE STRETCHES OF OUR CITY. AND YES, WE HAVE THE MONEY OF $10 MILLION TO DO A LOT OF CHANGE NOW, WHICH IS GREAT. SO MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE FULL $10 MILLION AND MAYBE THIS IS A THING THAT IS THE CATALYST, BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEND $10 MILLION OVER THE NEXT YEAR STARTING, LET'S SAY IN TWO WEEKS AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT YEAR. UM, AND THEN HAVE TO UNDO ALL THAT IN THREE YEARS WHEN WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO DO IT, I'M JUST SAYING TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES, NOT YOU. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I'M NOT SAYING TO YOU, KRISTEN, I'M, I'M SAYING FOR US TO TAKE THE, TAKE THE MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS GONNA BE, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NOW TO, TO GET TO YOUR POINT ABOUT DOING IT BEFORE SEASON, BUT IT, BEFORE WE SPEND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST USE OF THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF WE JUST HAVE MM-HMM, TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M ENCOURAGING. SO IF THERE'S A QUICK, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIAN TREES AND POWER WASHING THE SIDEWALKS BETWEEN NOW AND THE START OF SEASON, LET'S DO THAT. BUT NOT SPEND $10 MILLION ON SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT THING. OKAY. SO MY MOTION ON THIS WILL BE TO MOVE FORWARD THE 2 72 TODAY BETWEEN, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, SORRY. I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. I'M INTERRUPTING YOU. I WANTED TO GET THE ANSWER ABOUT HOW IT WENT FROM $30,000 TO 2 72 BEFORE WE, IT'S DIFFERENT. I, IT WAS THE WHOLE WASHINGTON AVENUE. HE JUST WANTED MAINTENANCE FOR ONE SECTION. THAT'S WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THAT THAT'S, AND BY THE WAY, UM, WE PASSED THIS IN, IN WHAT, 2 20 18? MM-HMM. , YES. 2018. HERE'S WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU. I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JONATHAN PLE, WHO'S DESPERATE FOR THE LIGHTING. HE SAID, BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING, WE HAVE A VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN. DON'T WE HAVE LIGHTING ON THIS TRUCK? NO, NO. THERE IS NO LIGHTING. IT'S POLICE LIGHTING. NO. WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS THE PERMANENT LIGHTING HE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE. AND I'M BRINGING AN ITEM FORWARD. I'M WORKING WITH HIM. HE'S GONNA REACH OUT AND SPEAK TO YOU. WHY? UH, BECAUSE THE RE THE COMPLETE REDESIGN IS NOT FUNDED. AND WE KNOW THAT WE GOT LIKE 120 MILLION, WE HAVE 20 MILLION HERE IS WHAT I WOULD ASK. I MEAN, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SAYING, PLEASE GIVE US THE LIGHTING. LIKE, UM, LET'S MOVE FORWARD THE 2 72 TODAY TO THE FULL COMMISSION. BUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, MARIA, YEAH. COULD YOU JUST GET US A PRICE? AND HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE. I WOULD JUST LIKE A PRICE FOR JUST COMPLETE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT ALONG WASHINGTON. MM-HMM. JUST REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE. HOW, WHAT WOULD THAT COST? [02:05:01] SO BETWEEN, THIS WOULD BE MY MOTION, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 2 72, BUT IN THE INTERIM, FIND OUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, UM, FOR NEW SIDEWALKS AND ALSO NEW POLLS. LET ME JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. BECAUSE GEO BONDS ARE PAID OVER 30 YEARS, UH, THROUGH TAXES. WE CANNOT USE THE MONEY FOR ANYTHING THAT IS TEMPORARY. SO TEMPORARY LIGHTING, STRING LIGHTS, THAT SORT OF THING CANNOT BE GEO BOND FUNDED. HOWEVER, NEW POLES, NEW, UH, ACORNS THAT GET, YOU KNOW, UH, UPDATED ACORN LIGHTS, OF COURSE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE STREETS, TREES, ALL OF THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE GEO BOND. BUT I KIND THE WAY THE DIRECTION HERE IS GOING. THANK YOU FOR THAT, MARIA. WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S JUST WE CAN DO QUICK WINS. WE, WE CAN QUICK WINS FOR THEM. QUICK WINS. WE'LL DO THE MEDIAN LIGHTING. LET'S PUSH THAT FORWARD. IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. COMMISSIONER'S, RIGHT? UH, WE'RE LOSING $15 MILLION REAL ESTATE SALES. I GOT A CALL SAYING I SOLD A CONDO TO, UH, PERSON. THEY CAME AND TOOK A WALK DOWN WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THEY CANCELED COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, YOU'RE AN AMBASSADOR OF THE CITY. CAN YOU JUST TELL 'EM HOW GREAT MIAMI BEACH IS? RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT I TRIED DOING. SO LET'S DO THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN REALLY, LET'S THINK ABOUT HOW ONE THING THIS CITY JUST HAS HISTORICALLY NOT DONE A GOOD JOB AT IS REALLY GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP COLLABORATIVELY, RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS HAPPENING IN ONE AREA, WE DON'T WORK WELL IN TANDEM, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST PIECEMEALING THINGS. MM-HMM. , THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY EXCITING. LET'S GET THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. LET'S GET THIS MEDIAN LIGHT IN TODAY. MM-HMM. . SO WE HAVE IT FOR THE SEASON, AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS $10 MILLION GEO BOND AND THE REIMAGINATION OF WASHINGTON AVENUE. LET'S DO THIS HAND IN HAND FOR THE MEDIUM AND LONGER TERM. MM-HMM. FUTURE OF OUR CITY. AND, AND PART OF MY MOTION JUST TO, JUST TO GET A PRICE, JUST TO GET A PRICE APART FROM MOVING FORWARD, THE LIGHTING, COULD YOU COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH AN ESTIMATE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT UP AND DOWN NEW LIGHTING POLES? YEAH. I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT. THAT'S A BOILER PLATE GUARANTEE KIND OF THING. A GUARANTEE YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IS GONNA GO AWAY. POLICE ARE GONNA BE OUT AND FEEL PRIDE IN THE AREA. THE SHOP OWNERS ARE GONNA BE, BEGIN TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR STORES. RETAIL OUTLETS THAT CURRENTLY DON'T WANNA BE ON WASHINGTON MIGHT RECONSIDER IT. AND LET'S FINALLY BEGIN TO REVITALIZE IN ADDITION TO ZONING INCENTIVES. LET'S REVITALIZE THE AREA. YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, AND LET'S ALL SPONSOR IT. CAN WE ALL SPONSOR IT? IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS? CAN YOU MAKE US ALL SPONSORS BEST IF IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE BONDS AS WELL, WHATEVER WE DO SHOULD NOT BE UNDONE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT 30 YEARS. SO IF WE PUT IN LIGHTING, IT SHOULDN'T BE UNDONE LATER DOWN THE ROAD. SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PERMANENT. WELL, AND HOPEFULLY THE PLAN, IT WILL BE, I MEAN, IF WE PUT IN NEW POLES, THEY'RE GONNA BE PERMANENT. YOU NEED TO DO IT ANYWAY. IT NEEDS AN UPDATE. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A LIGHTING POLE. IT'S REPLACING SOMETHING UGLY WITH SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL. IT'S A START. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. THERE'S A COLOR IN THE LINE. UH, COMMISSIONER BOTTEN, THEN WE'LL GO WITH THE COLOR. SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING LIGHTING POLES, LIGHTING CAPABILITY AND, UM, AESTHETICS AND NEED AND, UM, SORT OF WHAT WE ALL COLLECTIVELY THINK IS INTERESTING AS LIGHTING HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ALONE. MM-HMM, 15 OR 50. ARE THERE WAYS TO UPGRADE THE LIGHTING AS WE GO THROUGH? NOT JUST WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUT CITYWIDE WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE? LIKE NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NECESSARILY, BUT WHERE WE CAN CONTROL THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LIGHTS? SO FOR SEA TURTLE SEASON, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. , THAT'S ONE THING. BUT ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, ART BASEL, WE COULD HAVE ART BASEL COLORS AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SO THEY STILL ARE FUNCTIONAL, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THEM PART OF OUR BRANDING. AND AGAIN, NOT IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M NOT. RIGHT. I'M NOT THAT CRAZY. BUT, BUT, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, ON OCEAN DRIVE AND ALONG LINCOLN ROAD AND WASHINGTON AND COLLINS AND CERTAIN AREAS, LIKE, LET'S THINK PROACTIVELY ABOUT HOW TO USE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING IN. MM-HMM. . SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE NEED TO WRAP MORE TREES WITH LIGHTS THAT BREAK EVERY FIVE MINUTES. MM-HMM. . AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WHOLE DRAMA. LET'S, YEAH. YOU KNOW, I, FOR ANYBODY WHO'S OUT THERE, I WANNA START A BUSINESS AND I NEED A GOOD ENGINEER TO PROVIDE SOLAR POWERED LIGHTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE, BE REPLACED EVERY YEAR. UM, AND I'M SURE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE, THE COUNTRY WOULD JUMP ALL OVER THEM. SO SOMEBODY GET THAT BUSINESS GOING. UM, BUT ANYHOW, I'M SURE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH. LET'S, LET'S BE PROSPECTIVE NATALIE, SCREW THE PUBLIC. WAYNE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. I DID NOT. HEY, UH, I LOVE YOU ALL AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED. I THINK HER NAME IS MARIA. SHE'S VERY WELL SPOKEN AND UNDERSTANDS THE, UH, THE [02:10:01] DYNAMICS OF THE SITUATION OF MIAMI BEACH . UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE THAT I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU. ONE IS, UH, THE GO BOND DID NOT REALLY FUND EFFECTIVELY, UH, UPDATING THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING IN MIAMI BEACH, ESPECIALLY THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. EFFECTIVELY, IT, IT, IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF, OF THE BAN. AND, UH, WE NEED MORE, UH, THE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE STREETS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CLEANING, THE, THE, THE, THE GR THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PAPER AND BOTTLES, THEY GET PICKED UP NICELY BY DPW. BUT THE STREETS ARE DIRTY. THE STREETS ARE CRACKED. THEY, THEY'RE OLD WHERE IT'S PAVED. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS SO MUCH DIFFERENT, UH, WHERE IT'S RECENTLY PAVED, BUT TOO MANY OF OUR STREETS AREN'T, AND TOO MANY OF OUR SIDEWALKS AREN'T NEW. AND WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT, UH, UH, UH, PART OF OUR CITY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET, OUR $1 BILLION BUDGET IS NOT ENOUGH FOR, FOR THOSE KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS. WE SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS, UH, WHICH I DON'T THINK DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR IS AS EFFECTIVE AS SPENDING IT ON THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF, OF RESIDENTS. SO I, I THINK IN A GENERAL SENSE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET SHOULD GO TO THOSE THINGS LIKE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING AND, AND, AND OCEAN DRIVE AND, AND, UH, AND, UH, LINCOLN ROAD. AND SPEAKING OF LINCOLN ROAD, WHAT REALLY DISGUSTED ME, AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN FIX THIS. 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE PONDS, UH, IN, IN THE CENTER OF, OF LINCOLN ROAD HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED IN, I WOULD SUSPECT 15 YEARS. THEY'RE DISGUSTING. UH, I USED TO CLEAN MY POND IN MY BACKYARD PERSONALLY EVERY YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, PUT LITTLE PADS IN AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. ALL RIGHT. SO WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO WITH THIS? I, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, UH, THE MEDIAN TREE LIGHTING. MM-HMM. . AND THEN WE WILL WORK COLLECTIVELY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING MORE COMPREHENSIVE. YES. FOR EVEN AS SOON AS NEXT MONTH POLES AND SIDEWALKS, I WOULD SAY, SAY, WE'LL PREPARE AND I'LL, I'M SORRY. AND I'LL PREPARE AN LTC SHOWING YOU THE MAPS THAT IT'S GONNA SHOW YOU EVERY STREET IN THE GEO BOND THAT WE HAVE PAVED IN THE PAST, AND THE ONES THAT WE'RE PAVING IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS ALL THE SIDEWALKS. SO, OH, THE STREET'S BEING PAVED, WATCHING TV BEING PAVED WAS ALREADY A BIG MANEUVER. MM-HMM. YOU DO THE POLLS, YOU DO THE SIDEWALKS. IT'S A WHOLE NEW GAME. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT MONTH THEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF I MAY CHAIR, YOU MAY. UH, SO I HAVE THIS ITEM TO RETURN TO FERC. UH, JUST TO CHECK, IS, IS OCTOBER? 'CAUSE, UH, IS, IS THAT ENOUGH TURNAROUND TIME? 'CAUSE THE ITEM IS ACTUALLY DUE IN LIKE TWO WEEKS. SO WOULD YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT? I JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I'M GETTING ESTIMATES ON THIS. THE, TO RETURN TO FERC ON THE WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND A STREET LEVEL OR STREET LIGHTING. THINK WE NEED NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER. WOULD IT BE BRAD? BRAD IS TELLING ME, I THINK WE NEED NOVEMBER. OKAY. UM, SO TO RETURN TO FERC IN, IN NOVEMBER, UH, FOR AN UP UPDATE, AN LTC WOULD BE ISSUED ON STREET PAVING AND SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. MM-HMM. . UH, AND THEN THE ITEM ABOUT RETURNING TO COMMISSION ON THE, THE MEDIAN AT 2 72 IS OBVIOUSLY UNFUNDED. UH, SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, FUNDING THAT, THAT IS NOT GEO BOND ELIGIBLE. SO IF THAT WENT TO COMMISSION IN OCTOBER, I THINK JUST LIKE THE PRIOR WOLFSONIAN ITEM, IT WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE NOVEMBER BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH DEALS WITH THE ROLLOVER, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE DOLLARS WERE DEDICATED TO GO TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THEY WOULD JUST, WE WOULD JUST REDUCE THAT AMOUNT GOING TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH IS, YEAH. SO, UH, PERFECT. YEAH, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR YES, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. SO WE'LL SHOW IT AS, AS RETURNING TO COMMISSIONER FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MEDIAN, UH, PROJECT. SO TWO ITEMS THAT I'M LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ON PARKING. AND IF COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ IS AROUND, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM INVOLVED. 'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE INTEREST TO ALL OF US. AND THAT IS, UH, NB 15, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. YEP. UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE BARKLEY. UH, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR ONLINE THAT HAD CRITICAL ITEMS? 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA GET TO MUCH MORE THAN EITHER OF THOSE TWO. I THINK THE, THE BARCLAY, I THINK THE BARCLAY TEAM IS HERE. WE'RE HERE. LET'S GET THE PARKING AND, UH, YES, BUT WE'LL NEED 'EM FOR THE BARKLEY AS WELL. SO I, I WILL MB 15. SO ALEX, THAT YOU'RE OUT THERE. , UM, LOUIS, WHAT WAS THE ONE STUFF YOU CALLED? IS THE COMPOSTING ITEM QUICK? YES. 17. YES. YES. I BELIEVE IT'S A QUICK, OKAY. LET, LET'S DO THAT. WE'LL DO MB [02:15:01] UH, SO WE'LL READ, UH, MB [NB 17. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION ON FAVORABLE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION FOR POTENTIAL COMPOSTING PROGRAM AND MORE SPECIFICALLY TO EXPAND AT HOME COMPOSTING FOR RESIDENTS AND AT YOUTH AND RECREATION CENTERS WITH ASSOCIATED FUNDING REQUIREMENTS.] 17 REFERRAL TO FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON FAVORABLE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION FOR POTENTIAL, UH, COMPOSTING PROGRAM. AND MORE SPECIFICALLY TO EXPAND THE HOME COMPOSTING FOR RESIDENTS AND AT YOUTH AND RECREATION CENTERS WITH ASSOCIATED FUNDING REQUIREMENTS. NMB 17. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. YES, WE ARE ON. HI, GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS JUANITA ROS. I'M THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE MANAGER. UM, THIS ITEM COMES TO US THROUGH, UM, IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT CITY COMMITTEE. CITY COMMISSION, SORRY, THAT WAS REFERRED TO LAND USE. UM, AT LAND USE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WHICH RECOMMENDED STAFF TO EXPLORE FOUR OPTIONS, WHICH WE DID. UM, BROUGHT IT BACK TO LAND USE IN JUNE, UH, AT WHICH 0.2 OPTIONS WERE PREFERRED. AND THEY, UM, RECOMMENDED BRINGING IT TO FINANCE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO, UH, OUR TEAM WAS REALLY CREATIVE IN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR COMPOSTING. THIS IS ABOUT KIND OF EXPANDING ACCESS TO COMPOSTING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, WE DID HAVE DIRECTION TO EXPLORE CURBSIDE PICKUP, WHICH WE DID. UM, LOOK INTO IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE. SO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU NOW IS REALLY WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR, UM, OUR COMMUNITY. GIVEN THE CONTEXT THAT MIAMI-DADE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORIZED COMPOSTING FACILITIES. UM, THEY ARE WORKING ON A ZERO WASTE PLAN. THEY ARE WORKING ON THIS. SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COMMUNITY? THESE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU NOW SUPPLEMENT THE LARGER FLAGSHIP COMMUNITY COMPOSTING HUBS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR PARTNER, THE MIAMI BEACH BOTANICAL GARDEN. SO THAT IS, UM, OUR NORTH BEACH COMPOSTING HUB, THE COMPOSTING AT THE BOTANICAL GARDENS. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IN DEVELOPMENT, UM, A LOCATION IN MID BEACH AT 40TH AND CHASE PARKING LOT. AND SO THAT IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED HERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. ONE ARE SMALL SCALE COUNTERTOP EQUIPMENT FOR HOUSEHOLDS. THE OTHER ONE IS LARGE SCALE EQUIPMENT FOR YOUTH CENTERS. THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TEST HOW THIS MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. IT'S REALLY MEANT, UM, AS A PILOT. UM, THIS DOES HELP THE REDUCTION OF FOOD WASTE. IT INCREASES COMMUNITY INTEREST IN COMPOSTING AND REDUCES GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS THROUGH THE CREATION OF NUTRIENT RICH SOIL AMENDMENT. UM, SO THE TWO OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE, ONE IS, UH, WE CAN WORK WITH VENDORS TO LOOK AT EQUIPMENT THAT IS SMALL SCALE, KIND OF COUNTERTOP MACHINES FOR, UM, RESIDENTS AIM. WE PROPOSE THAT WE COULD, UM, SEE IF THERE COULD BE A DISCOUNT FOR HOMEOWNERS. AND WE OFFER A REBATE OF, SAY, LIKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS. WE PURCHASE MAYBE 20 TO SPARK INTEREST. UM, AND THAT WOULD COME WITH A COST OF UP TO 50,200 FEES. AND HAVE WE SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE? I KNOW HE'S A SPONSOR OR ANY REPRESENTATIVES HERE. I, I WANNA SEE WHAT DIRECTION HE WANTS. I I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY EITHER WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, STAFFORD ADMINISTRATION SAYS, HEY, WE'RE 90% IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE 10% HERE. UH, OR YOU'RE KIND OF JUST PUTTING BOTH OF THOSE OUT THERE WITH EQUAL WAITING. WE ARE PUTTING BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS OUT HERE WITH EQUAL WAITING FOR, FOR YOUR REVIEW. UM, WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THIS. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH PARKS AND WITH THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY STAFF IS IN ALIGNMENT FOR THIS. BUT WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THIS DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR. IT HAS BEEN JUST THROUGH COMMISSION AND COMMITTEES. PERHAPS WE DEFER THIS FOR A MONTH. WE ASK FOR DIRECTION FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. UH, HIS ITEM, I, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN A DIRECTION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT ALIGNED WITH. UM, SMART. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE, THE ITEM CAN RETURN NEXT MONTH. THE ADMINISTRATION WILL DISCUSS WITH THE, THE MAYOR AND WHAT DIRECTION HE HAS. AND JUST AS IF I CAN, SO AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP 25, AS WE START HAVING SOME OF THESE EXPENDITURE ITEMS, THERE'S ALSO THAT OPPORTUNITY GOING FORWARD AS IF THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE THAT COULD WAIT. UM, THINGS COULD BE RECOMMENDED TO BECOME A BUDGET PRIORITY FOR THE 2026 BUDGET PROCESS. JUST TRYING TO LEAVE THAT PORT ON SET. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND JUST ACHIEVE THAT WITH A DEFERRAL, BUT, OKAY. . UM, SO, SO WE'LL FI SHOW THIS ITEM DEFERRED UNTIL, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION GETS, UH, WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, OR A MAYOR'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE NEXT MONTH TO PERHAPS, UH, WEIGH IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. UM, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A ANGRY , I'M THINKING WE WHAT? WRAP UP BY, UH, ONE 30? UH, SO LET'S TRY AND GET THE PARKING QUICK. [OB 1. DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY ENTERING INTO ONE OR MORE AGREEMENTS WITH PRIVATE PARKING FACILITY OPERATORS IN NORTH BEACH IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AVAIlaBLE PARKING SPACES FOR NORTH BEACH RESIDENTS.] UM, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO DEFER, UH, NO, NO, NO. JOSE . HEAR ME ALL OUT. COME UP , YOU HEARD ME SAY DEFER, BUT DEFER WHAT I WANT TO GET TO, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, THREE OR FOUR QUESTIONS I'M GONNA SEND YOU, UH, WITH SOME HOMEWORK FOR MM-HMM, . UM, BUT I'M GOING TO USE THIS ITEM THAT WE HAD ON THE AGENDA AS A PLACEHOLDER [02:20:01] TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE PERTINENT. UM, THE PARKING UPDATE THAT WE'VE ALL, UH, SEEN FRONT AND CENTER WITH THE INCREASE IN RATES. HMM. SO LET'S, UH, USE THIS AS A CONVERSATION AS LONG AS I DON'T GET KICKED UNDER THE TABLE BY LEGAL FOR DOING SO, UM, AS A LEEWAY INTO TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PARKING RATE INCREASES. UH, AS A BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE GOT A LETTER TO COMMISSION, UH, FROM THE CITY MANAGER LAST FRIDAY, SAYING, UH, EFFECTIVE, I BELIEVE OCTOBER 1ST, WE WOULD BE SEEING PARKING RATE INCREASES. UH, I'LL LET YOU GO THROUGH THE DETAILS OF WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT LET'S NOT BEAT THAT TO DEATH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIFURCATION BETWEEN SOME PARKING INCREASES FOR TOURISTS, PARKING INCREASES FOR RESIDENTS. MM-HMM. , UH, THIS WAS NOT ANY TYPE OF ACTION OR VOTE OR MEASURE TAKEN BY ANYBODY ON THIS BODY. UH, I WENT BACK AND RESEARCHED THE ORDINANCE. THIS WAS A RESULT OF A 2019 VOTE. AGAIN, A VIDEO I WATCHED LAST NIGHT. IT WAS VERY EVENTFUL. UM, AND, UH, SO YOU SHOULD GO TO THE MUSEUM. AND I, I THINK THERE'S A COLLECTIVE WILL HERE, UH, GIVEN INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT HAVE JUST HIT RESIDENTS FROM, UH, THE WILL TO DO TO OUR, OUR MOST AT NEED. EVERYBODY'S FEELING THE EFFECTS OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES, UH, WHICH HOPEFULLY ARE GOING TO BEGIN SUBSIDING. UM, BUT THE TIMING OF A RESIDENTIAL PARKING RATE INCREASE IS JUST NOT IDEAL. SO, UH, WITHOUT PUTTING WORDS INTO MY COLLEAGUES MAL, I'LL LET THEM ALL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. BUT I KNOW ME PERSONALLY, UH, I, I THINK THERE'S A COLLECTIVE WILL TO ESSENTIALLY, SHE A RESIDENTIAL PARKING INCREASE AT THIS MOMENT. UM, IF, IF I MAY JUMP IN FOR A MOMENT, UM, THERE WILL BE AN ITEM ON NEXT WEDNESDAY'S, UM, AGENDA. UH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ AND COMMISSIONER SU SUAREZ ARE PROPOSING TO REPEAL BASICALLY THE INCREASE FOR RESIDENTS. UM, AND MOST OF YOU, ACTUALLY, I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE JOINED AS CO-SPONSORS. I, I THINK IT MIGHT BE PREFERABLE NOT TO DISCUSS THE ITEM AT THIS COMMITTEE, UM, BECAUSE IT HA IT, IT, IT REALLY WASN'T PART OF THE TITLES OR, OR THE AGENDA. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE. AND MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN AS A CO PRIME, I COMPLETELY WELCOME YOU, UH, IS. 'CAUSE I THINK, UH, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE TABLE, I THINK WEDNESDAY TO STOP THE INCREASE FROM TAKING EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, OR GIVING THAT DIRECTIVE TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION. THEN SEPARATELY IS AN AMENDMENT TO REPEAL THE 2019, UH, LEGISLATION. UM, WHICH JUST THESE FIVE, YOU KNOW, YEAR, YOU KNOW, , YOU KNOW, INCREASES. I JUST HIT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF LEFT FIELD IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US. YEAH. I, I SPOKE WITH OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, WILLIAMS, OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, UH, JOSE YESTERDAY, ABOUT 4:00 PM UM, AND, UH, CONVEYED THAT AS WELL. SO YES, RICK, CAN, CAN WE DO THAT? CAN, WILL WE ADD HIM AS A CODE OF PRIME? YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE. YEAH, PLEASE. I THINK I'M, I'M ALREADY, I'M ALREADY A CODE PRIME. DO WE WANNA HAVE SEVEN CO PRIMES? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? YEAH. YES. YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I, DIRECTION OF FREE PARKING FOR THIS. I CAN'T SPEAK, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER C COMMISSIONERS, BUT I KNOW IT SOUNDS COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE WANTS TO BE A CO PRIME COMMISSIONER. ROSE GONZALEZ WANTS TO BE A CO PRIME. YES. AND, AND, AND, AND COMMISSIONER BOB WANTS TO BE A CREDIT. EVERYONE HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ITEM, SO, OKAY. YEAH. SO LET'S, SO, SO, SO LET'S, LET'S DO THAT THEN. PERFECT. AND, AND JOSE, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REVERSE OF AN LTC IS, A LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE PARKING DIRECTOR. UM, BUT I HAVE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, WHEN THIS ITEM CONTINUES THAT I'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK WITH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LATE, UH, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, YOUR COMMENTS ON THE MIAMI HERALD, WERE ON POINT. YOU HAVE THE, AND YOU'VE ADVOCATED FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND THANK YOU FOR USING YOUR POSITION AS CHAIR AND THIS COMMITTEE TODAY TO ONCE AGAIN RAISE THE ALARM ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, UH, VERY TROUBLESOME INCREASE. IT'S, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S, IT WAS A 2019 POLICY. NONE OF US VOTED ON THIS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE INHERITED. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT TODAY YOU'VE USED YOUR MEETING TO INTRODUCE THIS TOPIC BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR PEOPLE DURING THESE TIMES WHEN THEY'RE BEING FINANCIALLY BURDENED. THANK YOU, UH, VICE MAYOR. MY FIRST NOTE TO SELF IS GOING TO READ WHAT MY COMMENTS IN THE MIAMI HERALD ARE, 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALERTING ME. . UM, [NB 1. UPDATE ON NEGOTIATIONS WITH 1940 BARCLAY PARTNERS, LLC, PURSUANT TO REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS (RFP) NO. 2023-115-KB, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1940 PARK AVENUE (THE BARCLAY) FOR A DEVELOPMENT AND GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT] LET'S MOVE ON TO AN ITEM THAT HAS, UH, BEEN IN THIS COMMISSION THAT, UH, LONG PREDATES ME AND I BELIEVE ANYBODY ELSE HERE, UH, SOMETHING. I THINK WE'RE ALL COLLECTIVELY VERY EXCITED. I SEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE. WE'VE ALL BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, THE BARKLEY THAT I'LL READ IT. ONE PERSON THAT DOES NOT PREDATE OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? YOU, YOU WERE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. . WELL, THE CITY IS ON THE PROPERTY SINCE 2015, SO NO. UH, MB ONE UPDATE ON NEGOTIATIONS WITH NINE, UH, 1940 BARCLAY PARTNERS, LLC PURSUANT TO REQUEST PROPOSAL RFP NUMBER 2 2 0 2 3 [02:25:01] DASH 15 DASH KB FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY. LOCATED AT 1940 PARK AVENUE, THE BARCLAY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT MB ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, RAQUEL WILLIAMS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF THE SALIENT TERMS NEGOTIATED WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THE BARKLEY, PURSUANT TO A SOLICITATION PROCESS AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU ALSO PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. AND I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE BY SAYING THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THE DIRECTIVES OF THIS COMMITTEE TO HEART AND THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU CHECKS ALL FOUR OF THE BOXES THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS REFERENCED AS BEING A PRIORITY. THAT INCLUDES PRESERVATION, THAT INCLUDES HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, THAT INCLUDES RELEVANT ZONING MATTERS, AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT PROPOSED WOULD PRESERVE THE EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING AT 1940 PARK AVENUE. THE PROJECT WOULD ALSO ENCOMPASS A NEW BUILDING THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED FEET, WHICH IS ABOVE THE 75 FEET PERMITTED BY THE CODE. THE PROJECT ALSO INCORPORATES A INCREASE TO THE EXISTING ALLOWABLE FAR FOR THE SITE. AND THAT FAR THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS 2.97, WHICH IS ABOUT 25% ABOVE. UH, WHAT IS PERMITTED. THE PROJECT IN INCLUDES 71% MARKET RATE UNITS AND 29% AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE UNITS. THE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL INCLUDES 30% AREA MEDIAN INCOME UNITS, AS WELL AS 120% AREA MEETING INCOME UNITS. THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE MARKET RATE AS THE PRIMARY UNIT TYPE. THE PROJECT WOULD ALSO HAVE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL ABOUT 6,000 SQUARE FEET. THE PROJECT INCLUDES PARKING, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN FULLY DETERMINED AS TO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED A PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDES A FEW DESIGN OPTIONS. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS INDICATED THAT OPTION ONE IS THE MOST PREFERRED OPTION AS A STARTING POINT FOR FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS AND DUE DILIGENCE. IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE MOST RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE? UH, THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE A $6 MILLION UPFRONT PAYMENT AS DISCUSSED BY THIS COMMITTEE AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION ON APRIL 3RD. THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES GUARANTEED ANNUAL RENT STARTING AT 52,000 APPROXIMATELY PER YEAR. IT WOULD INCREASE BY CPI WITH A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF 2% AND A MAXIMUM OF 3%. THE PROJECT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE 1% NET OPERATING INCOME PARTICIPATION AND 1% PARTICIPATION ON ANY TRANSFER OR SALE OCCURRING AFTER THE FIRST 10 YEARS. OVER THE 99 YEARS OF THE LEASE, THE ANNUAL GUARANTEED RENT, INCLUDING THE UPFRONT PAYMENT, WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $21 MILLION. THE ESTIMATE OF THE NET OPERATING INCOME FOR THE 99 YEARS IS ABOUT $17 MILLION. THE COMMISSION HAS SUPPORTED THAT $6 MILLION UPFRONT PAYMENT, AND WE WERE DIRECTED TO WORK OFF OF WHAT WE CALLED OPTION TWO AT THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE SEEKING SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO BRING THE TERMS, UH, AS INDICATED IN THE MEMORANDUM TO THE CITY COMMISSION, TO AUTHORIZE THE NEGOTIATION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A GROUND LEASE. NOTE THAT ANY INCREASE TO FAR WILL REQUIRE A SIX SEVENTH VOTE OF THE CITY COMMISSION. THE HEIGHT INCREASE BEING PROPOSED ALSO REQUIRES, UH, A FIVE SEVENTH VOTE OF THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THERE ARE OTHER, UH, STEPS ALONG THE PATH FOR THIS PROJECT TO GET TO FINALIZATION. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD BRING THE SECOND READING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND GROUND LEASE TO THE COMMISSION IN SPRING OF 2025. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT WOULD TAKE, BECAUSE THE PROJECT WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING BOARD, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMMUNITY MEETING AS PART OF THE FAR INCREASE. SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A, A SCOPE OF, UH, WHEN WE COULD BRING THIS IN FOR A FINAL LANDING, THE DEVELOPER WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AND GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT. THE DEVELOPER IS HERE TODAY. IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPER PRESENTED TO THE COLLINS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THAT THE ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. AND I BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ASSOCIATION IS ALSO PRESENT TODAY. [02:30:01] UH, PJ HAS THE DESIGN RENDERING AVAILABLE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OPTION ONE, WHICH IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPORTIVE OF AS A STARTING POINT. AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JUST, UH, FABULOUS YEARS OF WORK ON THIS. I REALLY LIKE, UH, INCORPORATING BASICALLY THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY THIS UPFRONT PAYMENT. TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT UPFRONT PAYMENT, I DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE THAT FLOAT INTO PURGATORY. WE HAVE SOME VERY PRESSING CAPITAL NEEDS HERE. WE HAVE UNDERFUNDED NEEDS FOR THE FIRE STATION THAT I KNOW IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, UNFUNDED NEEDS FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LINCOLN ROAD, BOTH AREAS THAT THIS PROPERTY SOMEWHAT ABUTS. IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE A BIFURCATED FUND TO TAKE THAT $6 MILLION AND SAY, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO GO PUT IT INTO THE ABYSS. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A ONE FOR ONE USAGE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S THAT $6 MILLION. THIS IS WHAT IT GETS US FOR CONSIDERATION FOR FAR AND HEIGHT INCREASES. SO THIS COMMITTEE COULD RECOMMEND, AND THE CITY COMMISSION COULD DICTATE THE WAY THAT THE $6 MILLION UPFRONT PAYMENT WOULD BE ALLOCATED. AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN PRIOR PROJECTS. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, UM, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE BEFORE. EXCELLENT. AND, AND MY FINAL QUESTION, I'LL PUSH IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE, UH, TWO QUESTIONS, UH, AND THEN I'LL PUT IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. ONE, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS THAT THE CITY IS GETTING. ARE WE ABLE TO ASSIGN OR ASSESS A VALUE? AND IT'S A SHAME DEBBIE'S NOT HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T ASK HER BASE. UM, WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GETTING ON A DIRECT MONETARY BASIS THAT A THIRD PARTY IS RESTORING THIS ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC TREASURE THAT WE HAVE? WELL, BASED ON OUR RECENT ESTIMATE, AND BY RECENT, I MEAN ABOUT A YEAR AGO NOW, PERHAPS, UH, WE ANTICIPATED THAT IF THE CITY WERE TO REDEVELOP THE PROJECT AS IS AND MAINTAIN THE THREE STORY BUILDING, UH, IT WOULD COST US ANYWHERE BETWEEN 22.5 MILLION AND, AND UPWARDS OF $25 MILLION. AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO NOT HAVE THAT COST BURDEN AND PLACE THAT DIRECTLY ON THE DEVELOPER. EXCELLENT. SO I, I, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE BENEFIT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING. AND LAST QUESTION, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN, SO I'M GONNA BE MORE HANDS OFF TIMING WISE. I THINK THAT'S MOST CRITICAL BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM FACILITIES FROM DEBBIE TACKETT, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, AND REALLY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? LIKE ONE, OUR BIGGEST, UH, ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES IS MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THIS PIECE, THIS BUILDING. AND EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY FROM MY ELEMENTARY ASSESSMENT, THAT LIKELIHOOD BECOMES LESS AND LESS, RIGHT? THE, THE MORE MONTHS WE HAVE TO DEFER AND THE MORE BOARDS WHERE WE NEED TWO MONTHS IN BETWEEN. ARE THERE ANY WAYS THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE SOME OF THESE PROCESSES? BECAUSE TIMING IS OF THE ESSENCE, ONE FOR THAT ELEMENT, AND TWO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS HAS JUST BEEN, WE HEARD THE POLICE TALK ABOUT HOW MANY POLICE CALLS HAVE BEEN IN THIS AREA. THIS IS NOT FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHOULD HAVE THIS ACTIVATED, HAVE IT PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY. I KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO A, A DIRT HOLE FOR EIGHT YEARS. AND I THEN WE WERE JUST LIKE, GIVE US ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THIS. UM, SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING AS FAIR AND EFFICIENT TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY AS WELL THAT WANTS TO SEE THIS SITE ACTIVATED. SO, UH, EVEN IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE READY TO, UH, POU. YEAH, I, I CAN CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE. UH, SO THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION, GAVE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION THAT INCLUDED THE $6 MILLION UPFRONT PAYMENT AND BASED THE AWARD ON OPTION TWO AS PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION. AND SO THAT INCLUDED AN INCREASED FAR INCREASED HEIGHT TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL UNITS. THERE WAS AN OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED AT COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED NO UPFRONT PAYMENT, NO ANNUAL PAYMENT, NO NET OPERATING INCOME PARTICIPATION, NO TRANSFER PARTICIPATION, AND A SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY OF ABOUT 4 MILLION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPER TO REDEVELOP THE PROJECT, UH, KEEP THE THREE STORY, UH, STRUCTURE RENOVATED. UH, THE 66 EXISTING UNITS WOULD PROBABLY TURN INTO 33 AND THEY WOULD LIKELY ALL BE AFFORDABLE. THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION DID NOT DECIDE TO GO FORWARD. THAT DIRECT LEAVES. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? SO IN IN ESSENCE, ANY PROJECT THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, ANY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, UM, WAIVERS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR INCREASED FAR WILL REQUIRE THOSE ADDITIONAL STEPS AT THOSE OTHER BODIES, INCLUDING THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND [02:35:01] A COMMENT. UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE ADDITIONAL STEPS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT, UM, I THINK TYPICALLY THE STEPS ARE WITH TWO MONTHS IN BETWEEN. IS THERE A WAY THAT FOR, TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS, UM, WE CAN DO ONE MONTH IN BETWEEN INSTEAD OF TWO? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IMPINGES ON THE DEVELOPER'S ABILITY TO PREPARE ADEQUATELY, BUT IF THERE'S NO, IF THAT'S NOT AN UNDUE BURDEN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD SO THAT WE COULD CATCH UP FROM THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN VACILLATING ON THIS AND WE COULD JUST MOVE THIS FORWARD. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, IF THOSE AREN'T SET YET, AND WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THE, UM, UNITS ARE GONNA BE SOME, SOME TYPE OF WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CAN WE MINIMIZE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FROM WHAT THEY USED TO BE AND THEREBY MAKE MAYBE THE OVERALL COST TO THIS, UM, PROJECT LESS EXPENSIVE? AND MAYBE THERE'S, AGAIN, I'M NOT NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAYS, BUT IF, IF WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND AS, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVELY A BAZILLION DOLLARS ON, YOU KNOW, A TON OF PARKING SPOTS, THERE ARE PARKING LOTS ALL OVER THE PLACE AROUND THERE. AND WE ARE TRYING TO DISINCENTIVIZE, WE DON'T, IT'S NOT A WOR CARS, BUT WE KNOW IF OUR POPULATION IS COMING IN, IN THIS DEVELOP, I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO BE VERY PRECISE WITH MY WORDS. IF WE KNOW THE TYPES OF, UM, RESIDENTS WE'RE GOING TO BE APPEALING TO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT SORT OF ALL, I DUNNO, WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT FOR RIGHT SENIORS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT LIVE HERE FULL TIME FOR THE MORE MARKET RATE, AFFORDABLE THINGS, THEY MIGHT NOT KEEP A CAR HERE. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MINIMIZE THE PARKING IMPACT, UM, IN A WAY THAT WON'T AFFECT NEGATIVELY THE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED CARS IN OTHER PLACES, ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD MAKE THE OVERALL COST BETTER. MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SWEETEN THE POT A LITTLE BIT AND, YOU KNOW, PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY INTO MAYBE MULTIMODAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. I'LL LET YOU GUYS FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT I WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS ON THAT SIGNIFICANTLY. I KNOW, UM, THE CITY HAS SAID OPTION ONE, I, I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF DESIGNING THIS. UM, I, I'LL LET OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SKILLED AT THIS WITH DEBBIE TACKETT AND MDPL AND ALL THE PEOPLE WEIGH IN ON THIS, I, I WANNA BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT. UM, I KNOW ALSO THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY EMOTIONAL TOPIC FOR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO IT, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY PROPONENTS WHO KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A BIG SOURCE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF MDPL FOR YEARS AND ON THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SEAT, I'M VERY MINDFUL HOW OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO, TO PROTECT THE BUILDING. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF, UM, MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMISSION HAVE, HAVE REALLY PRIORITIZED THAT AS WELL. I, I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE COME TO THIS PLACE FINALLY. I THINK IT IS A GOOD OUTCOME. YOU KNOW, IS EVERYBODY GETTING EVERYTHING THEY WANT? OF COURSE NOT. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF COMPROMISE. AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD ONE. AND, UM, I WANNA SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AND AS THOUGHTFULLY AS POSSIBLE. I WANT THIS, THE DESIGN OF THE, THE NEW BUILDING TO REALLY ELEVATE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. I DON'T WANT IT TO OVERWHELM AND OVERSHADOW LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY, BUT I DON'T, I WANT IT TO BE A BACKDROP FOR THE JEWEL THAT IS THIS, THIS BUILDING AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE UNITS OUT OF IT THAN WE WOULD IF WE JUST DEVELOPED IT OURSELVES. WE ARE GETTING THE COST OF THE REDEVELOPMENT, UM, BEING PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER. AND WE ARE GETTING, THAT'S NOT THE DESIGN. IT'S NOT NO, LOOK, LOOK IN THEIR, YOUR HAND UP. AND ALSO THE DESIGNS THAT ARE YOUR HAND UP ARE ALSO NOT THE DESIGNS. UM, SO I, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE THIS AND IF WE CAN, AND IF WE CAN, UM, EXPEDITE THE TIME BETWEEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS, I WOULD GO FORWARD. THE ADMINISTRATION WILL CERTAINLY DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO EXPEDITE ALL THE APPROVALS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN TRY TO HIT THOSE MILESTONES. UH, AS TO THE PARKING, UH, THERE IS SOME PARKING THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE A PART OF THE PROJECT AND WE CAN CERTAINLY NEGOTIATE REDUCTIONS TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AND THOSE WOULD BE, UM, BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE, THE PLANNING BOARD AND TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE IF A WAIVER IS BEING REQUIRED OR A REDUCTION TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS BEING REQUESTED. AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE GOING RATE FOR A PARKING TO BUILD A PARKING SPOT RIGHT NOW? $60,000. THE, THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THIS, IT WAS ABOUT $40,000 A SPACE, A NUMBER FOR LIKE 15 YEARS. THE COST OF SPACE CONSIDERED NOT JUST A COST OF CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE COST OF THE YEAH, BECAUSE THEN THE BUILDING COULD BE LOWER. WELL, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE US THE $6 MILLION THAT [02:40:01] WE SPENT ON IT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I WILL LET YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT I'M NOT GONNA SPOT ZONE AND INCREASE FAR ACROSS DIFFERENT BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH WITHOUT SOME SORT OF A, A PLAN. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, WHEN I LEFT CITY HALL YESTERDAY, I COULDN'T EVEN GET TO 41ST STREET AND WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR REALLY EMPTY MONTHS. SO I'M NOT, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG CHALLENGE 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR A SPOT ZONING, UM, FAR INCREASE, UM, THAT I'M NOT SUPPORTING. SO, YOU KNOW, I, AND THE REASON I'M NOT SUPPORTING IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ZERO IDEA OF THE IMPACT OF ALL OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING UP. AND I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OF MID BEACH LIVES IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND WE CAN'T GET ANYWHERE. AND IF THERE WAS A RELIABLE MASS TRANSIT, I'D SAY, YOU FINE. AND I'M GONNA BRING UP MY REAL ESTATE CLIENT ONLY ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THIS WEEKEND THAT HIS ONE COMMENT TO ME, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HE MIGHT NOT MOVE TO MIAMI BEACH IS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET A BUS. HE SAID THAT MASS TRANSIT WAS SO UNRELIABLE THAT, UH, THAT IT WAS DISTURBING TO HIM. HE DOESN'T WANNA HAVE A CAR. SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN UNRELIABLE MASS TRANSIT THAT'S NOT WORKING. WE DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU'VE GOT TH THOUSANDS OF UNITS IN THE PIPELINE AND I CAN'T EVEN GET HOME AT NIGHT. UM, SO I'M JUST NOT GONNA RANDOMLY UP ZONE THE WHOLE CITY BUILDING BY BUILDING ONE BUILDING HERE, ONE BUILDING THERE, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S GIVE SOME HEIGHT OVER THERE TO THE STANTON. WE JUST GAVE THEM AN FAR INCREASE. NOW LET'S GIVE THEM A HUGE FAR INCREASE. I I'M NOT DOING IT. NOT WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MR. CHAIR. OH, AND, AND, AND ONE REASON, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I AM NOT DOING IT IS BECAUSE I, MY CONSTITUENTS DON'T WANT IT. AND I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS FEEL, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT LIKE 99 OF MY CONSTITUENTS, 99% OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE TOLD ME, LITERALLY WRITTEN AND TAKEN THE TIME TO TELL ME AND, AND CALLED THEY DON'T WANT IT. SO I'M NOT GONNA DO WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. AND IT'S NOT ME. DON'T GET MAD AT ME. YOU CAN GET ANGRY AT MY CONSTITUENTS, MY CONSTITUENCY OR THE RESIDENTS, UM, THAT HAVE LIVED HERE THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. BUT I'M NOT DOING IT. MR. CHAIR? YES, THANK YOU. AND, UH, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME MOTION AND A SECOND ON, ON THE TABLE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO END THIS MEETING BY, BY ONE 30. THE ONE THING THAT I ALSO KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, ABOUT GROWTH. OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY. AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. THEY'RE, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN THIS PROPERTY AND ARE ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PROPERTY. OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS FROM, FROM, FROM DEMOLITION, FROM NOT BEING UPKEPT PROPERLY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT COEXIST CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES. HOW DO, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, UH, OF YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO 41ST STREET AT 4:00 PM OR 5:00 PM WELL, WELL, IF WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN OUR CITY AND AVOID THEM HAVING TO BE CLOGGING OUR OUTBOUND LANES ON 41ST STREET, ON THE MACARTHUR, ON THE TUTTLE, UH, DURING PEAK HOURS, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO LIVE HERE. HOW DO WE ADDRESS A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ISSUE IN OUR CITY BY LEVERAGING PUBLIC ASSETS LIKE THESE THAT WERE ACQUIRED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC HOUSING AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OUR WORKFORCE. HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THE PRESERVATION OF PUBLICLY OWNED HISTORIC BUILDINGS BY PARTNERING UP WITH ENTITIES THAT CAN ACTUALLY PUT THE CAPITAL TO ENGAGE IN THESE EXPENSIVE RENOVATIONS? THIS IS HOW WE ADDRESS HOLISTICALLY A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE. AND IT ALL CANNOT BE DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT. IT, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO, TO, TO, TO DO IT ALL. I WANNA THANK, UH, OUR NEGOTIATING TEAM, INCLUDING OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, QUEL WILLIAMS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE KEY THINGS FOR ME WAS NUMBER ONE, TO ENSURE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE MAMIE BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHO WE TRUST TO BE A PARTNER IN THE PROVISION OF HOUSING IN OUR CITY. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MAMIE BEACH HOUSING AUTHORITY MATTER MANAGER IS PARTICIPATING IN THIS, IN THIS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPER TO [02:45:01] HAVE A EQUITY PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING AUTHORITY TO THE TUNE OF 20%. OKAY. AND SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD, UH, PAY FOR THEIR EQUITY STAKE AND THEY WOULD ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE INCOME GENERATOR FROM THE PROJECT. SO I WOULD IMAGINE THEIR PARTICIPATION IN PART IS ALMOST AN ENDORSEMENT OF THIS PROJECT BY DEFAULT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE, UH, 14 UNITS AT 30% A MI, AND THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL PROVIDE THE HOUSING VOUCHERS THAT WILL, UM, BENEFIT THOSE UNITS. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE OF THE LONG TERM NATURE OF THIS LEASE, WE'RE NOT SELLING THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE PROPERTY. IT'S GONNA, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ASSETS TRANSFERRING IT TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, UH, FOR, FOR FOR 99 YEARS, THOUGH IT'S NOT A SALE, THE PERCEPTION IS OFTEN CREATED, CREATED THAT THESE TRANSACTIONS ARE A SALE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY GOT AS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY VALUE AS IT COULD, AS AN UPFRONT PAYMENT. WHAT IS THE APPRAISE? AND, AND I'M SORRY, COLLEAGUES, WHEN THERE'S A SIDE CONVERSATION GOING ON, MY A DD IS HORRIBLE AND I GET DISTRACTED AND I CAN'T CONCENTRATE ON, I APOLOGIZE. NO, IT'S FINE. . I'M SORRY. I DO IT TOO, SO I'M SORRY. YEAH. UM, I JUST GOT DISTRACTED. I'M SORRY. UM, WHAT IS THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY? SO THE LAST APPRAISAL THAT WE DID WAS IN DECEMBER OF 2022. AND AT THAT TIME, THE APPRAISED VALUE WAS 9.1 MILLION FEE. SIMPLE. OKAY. UH, WE ALSO, UH, I, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT THE RDA DID CONTRIBUTE 5.6 MILLION, UH, TO ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY. SO THE 6 MILLION UPFRONT PAYMENT CERTAINLY COVERS THE RDAS INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS NEGOTIATION, HOW MUCH UPFRONT PAYMENT WAS BEING OFFERED TO THE CITY? 1.5 MILLION. 1.5 MILLION. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT A SALE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN AN UPFRONT PAYMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE RECEIVING FOR A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO DELIVER A PUBLIC NEED, NOT JUST IN PRESERVATION OF A PUBLICLY OWNED ASSET, BUT IN THE DELIVERY OF MUCH NEEDED, UH, HOUSING AND, AND, AND SET-ASIDES FOR AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE. AND SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS, UH, META MANAGER, WE'VE HAD THIS, THIS CONVERSATION. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. UH, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK YOU'VE SHARED IT, IS, I THINK THAT THE MOMENT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND WE TAKE THIS, THIS PROPERTY COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE FROM, FROM, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENTERING INTO AN ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THIS TEAM, IS THAT THE CITY DOES GET SOME SORT OF DEPOSIT, A DEPOSIT WITH CERTAIN BENCHMARKS IN PLACE, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL THEY'RE SEEKING TO GET, UH, OTHER SUBSIDIES OUT THERE THAT COULD TAKE TIME. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SET CERTAIN BENCHMARKS SO THAT, SO THE PROPERTY DOESN'T SIT EMPTY, SO THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD ON A, ON, ON A TIMELY MANNER. THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO ENDEAVOR IN IS, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE 30% OF THE PROPERTY SET ASIDE FOR WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE REMAINING 70% THAT REMAINS AT MARKET RATE HAS SOME SORT OF A CAP. UH, IN TERMS OF A MI, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET COULD HOLD IN THE FUTURE, UM, MARKETS ARE UNPREDICTABLE AND IT IS A PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY. I'M ALL FOR A MARKET RATE, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A MARKET RATE THAT DOES NOT GET CLOSE TO A LUXURY RATE. THAT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAY ENSURE THAT THIS PUBLIC PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T END UP BEING ANOTHER PIECE OF LUXURY INVENTORY. AND, AND MAY I, YES, OF COURSE. WITHOUT NEGOTIATING FROM THE PODIUM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT POTENTIALLY THAT A MI CAP BE FOR A PORTION OF THE WORKFORCE UNITS, POTENTIALLY, UH, JUST SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBERS PENCIL FOR THE, FOR THE DEAL. BUT WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO NEGOTIATE THAT FURTHER AND SURE. HAVE THAT CAP IN PLACE, WHETHER IT'S 160 A MI, 180% A MI, UM, WHATEVER IS THE MOST FEASIBLE. WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THAT. SURE, SURE. AND SO, AND SO, I'M JUST EXCITED THAT, UH, WE'RE FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY THAT FOR YEARS HAVE BEEN COMING TO US, BEGGING US, BEGGING THE CITY TO TAKE CARE OF HIS ASSETS. AND, AND IT'S IRONIC TO ME [02:50:01] BECAUSE AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, WE OFTEN GO OUT AND WE GIVE VIOLATIONS, AND WE GO AFTER OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DON'T PROPERLY MAINTAIN THEIR ASSETS. AND HERE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS COMING TO US AS COMMISSIONERS ASKING US TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN OUR ASSET, AND WE'RE FINALLY MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT WE'RE, THAT WE SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL TO BRING NEW LIFE AND RESTORING SAFETY AND PROPER CONDITIONS TO THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY ASSET. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU TIME. UM, SO I, I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. SO I, I WON'T BELABOR THIS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I, THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN. I SHARE MY COLLEAGUE, ROSEN GONZALEZ, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, CONCERN ABOUT SPOT ZONING. UM, AND VICE MAYOR, WHEN YOU AND I WERE ON THE PLANNING BOARD, WE'D HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ALL THE TIME. AND WE KEPT BEING TOLD IT'S NOT SPOT ZONING, IT'S OKAY. SO I HEAR THAT, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A MASTER PLAN OR AT LEAST A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN. SO I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ON THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. WE'VE BEEN KICKING THIS AROUND FOR SO VERY LONG. IT IS TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT IMPACT. THE BETTER AND FASTER WE CAN SORT OUT THE PARKING ISSUES, THE BETTER IT WILL BE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS PROJECT. BECAUSE IF WE CAN LOWER THE REQUIRED HEIGHT TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK BY TWO OR THREE STORY, I DUNNO WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS. I NOT AN ARCHITECT OR AN ENGINEER, BUT A STORY, TWO STORIES, UM, THAT THEN ADDRESSES SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RENDERINGS IN HERE THAT ARE STARTING POINTS, BUT IT IS NOT, THOSE ARE NOT DESIGNS THAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY. AND SO I WILL URGE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND HIS TEAM TO, UM, TO KNOW THAT THERE IS PUSHBACK FROM A LOT OF FOLKS. UM, AND SO THE MORE, UM, THE LOWER YOU CAN MAKE IT AND THE LESS OVERWHELMING YOU CAN MAKE IT, EVEN IN YOUR PRELIMINARY MASKING STUDY, DIRECTIONAL RENDERINGS, I KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE FINAL DESIGNS, THE BETTER IT WILL BE FOR THE CONVERSATION. AND I DO, AND I ALSO HEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A HUGE PROPONENT FOR KEEPING THE CITY LOWER RATHER THAN HIGHER, AND THAT WE HAVE TRAFFIC JAMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MIND BOGGLING. BUT THIS BUILDING, THIS PROJECT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR SHAMEFUL LACK OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE GOALPOSTS ON THIS PROJECT BY SAYING THIS, THAT THIS CAN'T GO FORWARD. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT AN ACCURATE REF REFLECTION ON THE ISSUES. AND YOU'RE NOT WRONG. WE HAVE SHAMEFUL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THAT IS A WHOLE SEPARATE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO BE TACKLING IN A MORE ROBUST WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONLY OUR FIRST YEAR OF THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION. SO GIVE US UNTIL AT LEAST THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR TO GET THAT GOING. 'CAUSE IT'S A LEGITIMATE DISCUSSION, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON THE SHOULDERS OF THIS. AND IF WE ARE BUILDING A PROJECT THAT IS DEPRIORITIZING PARKING, THAT MEANS THAT THOSE FOLKS WILL NOT BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE MORAS THAT IS TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AND WITH THAT, I SUGGEST WE CALL A NOTE. WE HAVE PUBLIC HOUSING, RIGHT? YES, WE DO. WAYNE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. THE IDEA THAT, UH, HOUSING WILL NOT CREATE CARS IS, OR ORWELLIAN UNITED STATES HAS ADDED, UH, TENS OF MILLIONS OF CARS OVER THE LAST DECADE ALONE. UH, AND MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IS NO DIFFERENT. UM, IN FACT, IT'S INCREASED 28% IN THE LAST DECADE, THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VEHICLES. SO I, I JUST WANT YOU TO STAY AWAY FROM OUR WELL IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LACK OF, UH, UM, CARS BEING, UH, INUNDATED IN MIAMI BEACH WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION. YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT HELPFUL. UH, WHAT'S MORE, UM, THE IDEA THAT YOU REMOVING? UM, I BELIEVE MARKET RATE IS THE, THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. IT ADDS, UH, REVENUE TO THE CITY. UM, AND, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH, UH, $500 RENT IN THIS CITY. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TAX DOLLARS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. UM, AND IT, IT, YOU'RE LYING TO THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU DISCUSS THESE THINGS WITHOUT REALITY. AND, UH, THE LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE IS THAT YOU KEEP MOVING THE BAR, THE BAR, UH, THE POST, UH, SO THAT, UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS INCENTIVIZING DEVELOPERS OR, OR LANDOWNERS NOT TO UPDATE THEIR PROPERTY. BECAUSE EACH YEAR YOU ADD FAR YOU HAVE NEW DISCUSSIONS WITH HIGHER RISING DISCUSSIONS OF 200 FEET, 150 FEET, 400 FEET, 600 FEET. AND SO THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE NO, NO INTENTION OF UPDATING THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY THINK FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE GONNA GET EVEN MORE MONEY. SO THE PROCESS AND THE DISCUSSION IS AGAINST WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE. UM, SO PLEASE [02:55:01] BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. BE HONEST WITH THE SYSTEM, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY FOR MIAMI BEACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WAYNE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. INPUT'S ALWAYS WELCOME. I I WILL SAY, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS THE CITY, AND WE WERE THE ONES THAT LET THIS OVER THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS YEAH. FALL INTO DELIC REPAIR, WHERE WE HAD TO ESSENTIALLY GO BEGGING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. BECAUSE LET'S THINK ABOUT THE REALITY. LET'S SAY WE VOTE THIS DOWN AND IT SAYS NO, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WHERE'S $30 MILLION COME FROM? WE OWE $30 MILLION FOR A NEW FIRE STATION AND THE UPKEEP OF THE SOUTH SHORES COMMUNITY CENTER. WE NEED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS. IF, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED TO RELY ON A PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNER. BUT BECAUSE THE CITY ESSENTIALLY NEGLECTED THIS PROPERTY FOR SO LONG, WE FORCED OUR OWN, THANK GOD. IT'S NOT DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT, BUT RESTORATION BY NEGLECT. AND MR. CHAIR, WE USED TO HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY BEFORE THERE WAS THIS MASSIVE GENTRIFICATION BEFORE THERE WAS THIS MASSIVE GENTRIFICATION. WE USED TO HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH. AND EVER SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS GREAT GENTRIFICATION, I, I'M GONNA START CALLING IT THE GREAT GENTRIFICATION. EVER SINCE WE HAD THE GREAT GENTRIFICATION, WE'VE SEEN WHAT WAS IN MIAMI BEACH, WHAT WE DIDN'T SEE BEFORE, ALL THESE EXTRA CARS. MIAMI BEACH WAS, DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE THIS PROBLEM. AND I'VE SEEN IT OVER TIME, OVER MY YEARS OF, OF LIVING HERE AT MIAMI BEACH. EVERY YEAR GETS WORSE AND WORSE. AND THE, AND THE CONSTANT IS, AS IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE UNAFFORDABLE TO LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE HAVING TO COMMUTE TO WESTCHESTER, TO SWEETWATER, TO HIALEAH, TO, TO, TO, TO KENDALL, TO OTHER PARTS, TO OTHER SUBURBS WHERE IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THEM TO LIVE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PRICED OUT OF OUR CITY BECAUSE OF A LACK OF INVENTORY. AND, AND, AND TO THE LAST POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS NOT FIXING UP THEIR PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER POLICIES. I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, WHATEVER POLICIES THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN DISCUSSING AS A BO AS AS A BODY, THEY DON'T ENCOURAGE PROPERTY OWNERS NOT TO FIX THEIR THEIR PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE TIED TO A SUNSET. WE'RE NOT GIVING PROPERTIES FAR OR ANY ZONING RIGHTS. WE'RE GIVING THEM INCENTIVES TO FIX UP THEIR PROPERTIES TO GET RID OF NUISANCES. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN GET ANYTHING THAT WE'RE OFFERING THEM. AND IF THEY DON'T DO IT, I THINK IT'S THREE YEARS. IF THEY DON'T DO IT WITHIN THREE YEARS OR SO, THE INCENTIVE DISAPPEARS. AND, AND IN ESSENCE, WE ARE ENCOURAGING THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO FIX UP THEIR PROPERTIES BEFORE THESE, THESE LAWS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE DISAPPEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TEMPORARY IN NATURE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. DO YOU, WAIT, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT DRIVES ME CRAZY IS THAT I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO LIVE HERE RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO SERVE THEM AND NOT SERVE FUTURE CONSTITUENTS THAT DON'T LIVE HERE. I LEFT CITY HALL YESTERDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, AND I DIDN'T GET HOME UNTIL FIVE 40 AND IT'S SEPTEMBER. OKAY? AND THEY HAVE NOT FINISHED ALL OF THE OCEAN FRONT HOTELS, THE AHMAN, THE ARY, THE ROSEWOOD, THE SHORTCUT. WAIT, THE 800 ROOM CONVENTION CENTER, HOTEL, I MEAN, THE 10 BUILDINGS IN NORTH BEACH ARE YOU GUYS NOT, THIS IS CRAZY, BILL. AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IF I START ADDING UP SPOT ZONING, SPOT ZONING, SPOT ZONING, SPOT ZONING, HERE, LET'S GIVE THEM A SEVEN FAR HERE, LET'S GIVE THEM THIS. I YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. ZERO. AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE HAVE TO START REALLY DISCUSSING THIS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIVE IN SOUTH BEACH AND YOU DON'T NEED A CAR, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT LIFE IS RICH. UH, FOR THOSE OF US, UH, WHO ACTUALLY NEED A CAR, AND WE HAVE NO RELIABLE MASS TRANSIT, THE IDEA OF ADDING MORE DENSITY TO WHAT IS NOW IN SEPTEMBER, WE CANNOT GET ACROSS 41ST STREET. WE CAN'T GET HOME. OKAY? WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL. WE'RE GONNA START HAVING S THERE'S GONNA BE SERIOUS. I WOULD LIKE US TO SERVE. AND THIS IS WHAT MAYOR BURQUETTE FROM SURFSIDE SAID, WHO'S A PROPERTY OWNER HERE. HE SAID, YOU GUYS NEED TO START SERVING THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE INSTEAD OF BUILDING FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT COME. AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE. WE'RE NOT SERVING OUR CONSTITUENTS WITH THIS. WE'RE SERVING A A, WE'RE SERVING A SPECIAL. AND BY THE WAY, WHEN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WHO ALL GOT TOGETHER TO SAY, [03:00:01] YES, YES, WE WANNA SAVE COLLINS PARK WHEN THEY SEE HOW BIG THAT IS, AND THEY'RE GONNA LOSE ALL OF THEIR PRIVACY, THEY'RE GONNA BE CAST INTO A SHADOW BECAUSE YOU'RE INCREASING THE HEIGHT ON THIS BUILDING. THEY ARE NOT GONNA BE SUCH HAPPY CAMPERS. SO, I MEAN, DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY BEFORE YOU APPROVE THIS, THERE SHOULD BE SOME NOTICE. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PICTURES AND I SAW THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S SHOCKING. BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU DO THAT TO SOMEBODY, THEY CAN'T EVEN GET CELL PHONE SERVICE ANYMORE IN THEIR HOUSE. LIKE WHEN I HAD THIS CONCRETE STRUCTURE, I JUST CAN'T EVEN GET A PHONE CALL. ANYBODY WHO CALLS ME AT HOME KNOWS THAT MY CALLS DROP BECAUSE I HAD A CEMENT WALL, YOU KNOW, BUILT NEXT TO ME. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A BUILDING NEXT DOOR. THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE MEMBERS OF, OF COLLINS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH ARE WONDERFUL, BUT, UM, ALL THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM, HEY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST RENOVATING THE BARKLEY. YOU'RE NOT GETTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE A THREE TO FOUR STORY STRUCTURE. YOU'RE GETTING, HOW TALL IS IT? IT'S A HUNDRED FEET. AND WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF NEIGHBORING BUILDING A HUNDRED FEET. IT'S A HUNDRED FEET. AND, UM, WELL I, YOU KNOW, SAME HEIGHT AS THE CONVENTION CENTER. YEAH. WELL THAT'S GREAT. IT'S, IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE CONVENTION CENTER ACROSS THE STREET. AND IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN THE OCTAGON, WHICH IS THAT'S GREAT. I'M JUST NOT ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY. THIS I'M NOT, DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR NEIGHBORING BUILDING. WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T, I DON'T DID YOU CALL ON HIM? 'CAUSE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY MANSFIELD PARK. YEAH, THEY SUPPORT, UM, WELL ANYWAY, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN PHILOSOPHICALLY IN THIS SPOT ZONING. ACTUALLY, IT'S KIND OF ILLEGAL TO SPOT ZONE AND PEOPLE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO IT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I, YOU KNOW, I'M SET NOW. IF YOU CAME BACK AND SAID, I'M NOT GONNA DO AN FAR INCREASE, MAYBE YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF LESS MONEY. I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER B SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. I KNOW, I, I, I KNOW RAY. YOU JUST WANNA BUILD IT BIGGER, BETTER. BUILD, BUILD, BUILD, BUILD, BUILD ANOTHER TALL BUILDING. I COULD TELL YOU THAT OUR RESIDENTS DON'T WANT US TO BUILD, BUILD, BUILD, BUILD, BUILD. YOU TALK. YOU LET WAYNE TALK. CAN I PLEASE TALK? I I REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY TOO. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW WHO I ALSO REPRESENT? MM-HMM. , SINGLE MOTHERS. THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR RENT ANYMORE. WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE PAST 10 YEARS IN THIS CITY TO HELP HOUSING AFFORDABILITY? WE HAVEN'T DONE A SINGLE THING. NOT ONE SINGLE THING. WE HAVE BUILT HOTEL, NIGHTCLUB, HOTEL, HOTEL, HOTEL. THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN IN MY DAUGHTER'S SCHOOL WHOSE FAMILIES HAVE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF OUR CITY, DO, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LITTLE CHILDREN MY IS HUGGED BECAUSE HER FRIENDS CAN'T LIVE IN OUR CITY ANYMORE. THOSE PEOPLE I REPRESENT TOO. AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I CARE ABOUT AS WELL. RIGHT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WASHINGTON, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS OR LANDOWNERS THERE. I WANT TO GIVE A DIGNIFIED LIVING TO FAMILIES THAT ARE WORKING IN THIS SCHOOL. MY DAUGHTER'S MOTHER FOR THE PERSONAL PROBLEMS WE HAD IS THE HARDEST WORKING PERSON I KNOW. THE HARDEST WORKING. SHE WORKS IN 105 DEGREES FROM 10:00 AM UNTIL 8:00 PM AT NIGHT, SERVING DRINKS AT A HOTEL TO GIVE HER YOUNG DAUGHTER A DIGNIFIED LIVING AS A SINGLE MOTHER. AND SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR CITY. SHE CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR CITY BECAUSE WE WANNA SAY NO, IF YOU DON'T OWN, IF YOU'RE NOT A MILLIONAIRE, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE. AND THAT IS WRONG. IF SHE NEEDS A REALTOR, I CAN SHOW HER AN AFFORDABLE UNIT SOMEWHERE IN SOUTH BEACH. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE EXACT SIZE SHE WANTS, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE STOCK OF AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS. YEAH. ONE, ONE, I COULD SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW, 1 1 1 700 SQUARE FOOT UNITS FOR 3000 FROM 1800 SQUARE FEET. BUT THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THESE, UH, NEW BUILDINGS ARE, ARE SHOWING. I MEAN, LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UNITS FOR $800,000 IN NORTH BEACH THAT ARE BEING BUILT, 800,000 FOR LIKE 550 SQUARE FEET. I'M SORRY. THEY'RE NO BIGGER THAN THE UNITS IN SOUTH BEACH. SO THAT ARGUMENT ALSO DOESN'T HOLD A CAN BECAUSE THESE UNITS THAT WE'RE BUILDING, BY THE WAY, THE ONLY AFFORDABLE, THE ONLY WORKFORCE, I, I HAD THE MICROPHONE AND I DO NOT LIKE BEING INTERRUPTED BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN INTERRUPTING YOU. OKAY. THE NEW UNITS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ARE NOT MUCH LARGER THAN THE OLDER UNITS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND BY THE WAY, THE ONLY WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD, THE ONLY REASON THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN COLLINS PARK IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE GIVE THE, BUT DID NOT ONLY DID WE GIVE THEM THE LAND, BUT WE SUBSIDIZED THEM WITH AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION. OKAY? AND THAT WAS TO HAVE NORMAL SIZED UNIT. THE ACTUAL PROPERTY MARKET IS NOT GOING TO BE MU, THEY'RE NOT, THE UNIT SIZES ARE NOT GONNA BE MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING CURRENTLY IS. SO WE CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS, BUT THE NEWER CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE SMALLER AND MORE EXPENSIVE. AND, AND BY THE WAY, THE OLDER [03:05:01] CONSTRUCTION IS PROBABLY MORE AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THESE NEWER CONSTRUCTIONS WILL BE 2,500, 3000. THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE. AND WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. AND DON'T, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT SINGLE MOMS. WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT. I AM AGAIN, A SINGLE MOM . AND HERE IS WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU. IT IS NOT EASY. INSURANCE COSTS ARE GOING UP. MY HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE INCREASED BY 60%. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS? IT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INSURED ON MIAMI BEACH. THERE'S ISSUES AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT AND DRIVE RENT UP. SO EVEN IF THEY BILL THIS, BECAUSE THE, TO INSURE IT WILL BE SO EXPENSIVE TO HAVE ANY KIND, IF IT, IF IT'S A CONDO TO HAVE RESERVES WILL BE EXPENSIVE. IF IT'S A RENTAL UNIT, IT IS GONNA BE SO EXPENSIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INSURANCE THAT THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A PIPE DREAM. OKAY? UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM SO MUCH DENSITY THAT THEN WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GET AROUND THE CITY. SO, COME ON. WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT THE CONDO LAWS CHANGE. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT INSURANCE IS GONNA CONTINUE TO RISE TO A, TO A POINT WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA BE AFFORDABLE HERE. WELL, I'LL RETURN THE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE TO OVERBUILD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. NO ONE'S TO, BASED ON THIS ARGUMENT. I'M NOT. DON'T. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M NOT, YOU GUYS WANNA OVERBUILD, BUT WE DON'T, THEN I DON'T WANNA HEAR ONE TRAFFIC COMPLAINT. ONE BECAUSE I'M GONNA AGGREGATE EVERY SINGLE LITTLE SPOT SETTING THAT HAPPENS. AND AS SOON AS PEOPLE IN SEASON START TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, AND I COULDN'T EVEN GET ACROSS 41ST STREET RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA BE LIKE, LOOK AT THIS. LOOK, I'M GONNA HAVE A LIST AND I'M JUST GONNA FLASH IT FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. SO, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT TRAFFIC. AND BY THE WAY, WE ALL KNOW, 'CAUSE WE ALL WENT OUT TO FDOT AND WHAT THE LADY AT FDOT TOLD US WAS, WE HAVE NO CAPACITY AND WE HAVE NO SOLUTIONS. SO SHE DID SAY TO ME, KEEP YOUR DENSITY IN CHECK. SO I'VE BEEN COMMISSIONER FOR FIVE MONTHS AND HAVEN'T IMPROVED ANYTHING. SO OUR TRAFFIC APPARENTLY IS VERY BAD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS THAT PEOPLE SAY HAVE STRESSED OUR TRAFFIC. I I, I'D LOVE A, A MAP OF ALL THESE NEW HOMES, BUT I'M SORRY I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU EITHER. MM-HMM. I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO RAY FOR . OKAY. THANK YOU. FIRST OFF, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ SAID, THE REASON WE HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT IS BEING BUILT IN COLLINS PARK RIGHT NOW IS THAT LOT AND THE LOT WITH THE GARAGES WAS ZONED FOR 50 FEET. THE ORIGINAL GARAGE THAT WAS DONE, UM, BY ZAHA HADID WAS 50 FEET TALL. WHEN THAT JOB, WHEN THAT WENT AWAY, I SAID, WHY CAN'T WE CHANGE THE ZONING TO 75 FEET THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND BUILT THE GARAGE. SO WE BUILT THE GARAGE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAD A LOT LEFT OVER THAT YOU COULD BUILD THE WORKFORCE OUT. WE RAISED THE HEIGHT THERE TO DO THAT. NOW THE ONLY REASON WE'RE RAISING THE HEIGHT HERE AND AND WE'RE WE'RE UPZONING IS BECAUSE YOU WANT $6 MILLION UPFRONT. $6 MILLION WHEN YOU HAVE A AN ANNUAL BUDGET OF ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS. YOU DON'T NEED THAT $6 MILLION IF YOU WANNA KEEP THE HEIGHT, UH, TO THE 75 FEET. AND YOU WANNA KEEP THE FAR THE WAY IT IS, BE WILLING TO ACCEPT LESS MONEY, LESS MONEY, LET THEM BUILD WHAT THEY WANT, AND THE SHOVEL GOES IN THE GROUND FASTER. RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S GOING RIGHT NOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET THE FIVE SEVEN VOTES. AND THE SIX SEVEN VOTES. THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO INCREASE THE FAR AND THE HEIGHT INCREASE. AND YOU GUYS, THIS IS ALL BOGUS. SO WHY DON'T YOU BREAK DOWN AS A COMMISSION AND AS A FINANCE COMMITTEE AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO AGREE TO, AND DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. CORRECT. IF I COULD JUST ASK, UH, UH, UH, RAQUEL IS THE PROPER PLACE, IS THIS TO RETURN TO COMMISSION OR IS THIS TO, IS THE NEXT PLACE TO COME BACK HERE FOR FUNNEL APPROVAL OF TERM SHEET OR THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. SO WE WOULD REQUEST TO BRING A TERM SHEET TO THE CITY COMMISSION BASED ON THE TERMS DISCUSSED TODAY. OKAY. AND, UH, FOUND IN THE MEMORANDUM. ULTIMATELY, ONCE THERE'S A NEGOTIATED LEASE, IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE FERC, BUT THAT'S AFTER THE COMMISSION GIVES AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT. SO, SO I MAY, I THINK IT WOULD SOUND LIKE THAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE TO RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AS THE ITEM IS, UH, AS PRESENTED, UH, WITH THE FINAL TERM SHEET. UH, BUT TO INCLUDE, UH, AN INITIAL DEPOSIT AND EXPLORE AN A MI CAP TO COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW WHAT AND, AND TO, AND FOR AND FOR THE ITEM TO RETURN TO, RETURN TO FOR COMMISSION, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. FOR TO TELL US IF THIS IS FEASIBLE. THE REQUEST IS FOR THE TERMS DISCUSSED TODAY AS PRESENTED TO, TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZATION TO GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND THEN THE ITEM TO RETURN FE AT A LATER DATE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME SO THAT THE ITEM, WE DON'T NEED A NEW REFERRAL. RIGHT. SO IT'S AN AUDIT REFERRAL AND IT'S ALREADY, UH, THIS ITEM WAS ALREADY REFERRED BY THE COMMISSION, OR THIS PROJECT WAS REFERRED BY THE COMMISSION TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ANY NECESSARY WAIVERS OR AMENDMENTS. [03:10:01] SO YOU WILL LIKELY SEE THIS PROJECT TRAVEL TO OTHER BOARDS. ALRIGHT, SECOND. DO WE NEED CALL, VOTE, OR WE, UH, YES. ACTUALLY, COULD WE VOTE? YES. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CHAIR. THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU GUYS ALL IN FAVOR? YES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. COMMISSIONER BOT? AYE. COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ. UM, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO WHAT RAY SAYS, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO, UH, UH, VOTE YES, BUT COME BACK WITH LESSER MONEY AND NO FAR INCREASE. AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A DEAL THAT'S ON MOTION. MOTION. THEN I HAVE TO VOTE THIS DOWN, THEN I HAVE TO VOTE IT DOWN. AND IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY SLATED FOR FAILURE BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR SPOT ZONING. SO I AGREE WITH RAY AND SOMETHING REALISTIC SHOULD BE PUT ON THE TABLE. I'M A KNOW FOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT. I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT. WE ASKED FOR THIS UPFRONT PAVEMENT COMMISSIONER ROSA AL, MAD VICE CHAIR. WE ASKED FOR THIS UPFRONT PAYMENT BECAUSE AT AN EARLIER FINANCE COMMITTEE, YOU WERE UPSET AT THE LACK OF PAYMENT THAT THE CITY WAS RECEIVING. AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE CITY WAS NOT LEASING. YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE CITY WAS SELLING A CITY ASSET FOR ALMOST NO MONEY. AND WE ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO BACK AND TO NEGOTIATE AND TO BRING BACK A DEAL THAT ACTUALLY GAVE US, THAT GAVE US MONEY. AND SO I JOINED YOU AND I SUPPORTED YOU WHEN YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A, A PUBLIC TRUST ISSUE WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, WE'RE LEVERAGING NOW THE PUBLIC ASSET, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY MONEY UP FRONT. IT DOES CREATE THIS OPTIC THAT WE'RE GIVING AWAY PUBLIC LAND AT A VERY LOW RATE. THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU REQUESTED IT AND I SUPPORTED YOU. AND SO I HAVE AN ISSUE WHEN NOW WE GO BACK AND WE SAY NO. YOU KNOW, SO WELL, I MEAN, BUT LOOK AT THE HEIGHT AND THE FAR. DID YOU SEE IT? IT'S BIG . IT'S REALLY BIG. IT'S TOO BIG FOR ME. IT IS JUST TOO BIG. I'M NOT DOING THAT ON A SCALE, IF I MAY OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION, CAN YOU CAN'T GET THE 6 MILLION AND WE CAN'T REALLY WEAR ALREADY VOTED. I MEAN, WE, WE CAN'T GET THE 6 MILLION. I'LL LET THE CONVERSATION CONTINUE, BUT I ADJOURN THE MEETING. YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, FREE TO. THANK YOU. DON'T, DON'T GET MAD. TO ME IT WAS, THERE WAS NO FAR INCREASE. NO ONE'S MAD AT YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.