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GOOD MORNING.WELCOME TO THE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 11TH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING.
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UM, DELAY IN GETTING STARTED A LITTLE BIT LATE.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.
UM, BEFORE I START, I JUST WANNA SAY I'D LIKE TO, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE BOARD, OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BY HURRICANE MILTON.
UH, WE KEEP GETTING LUCKY IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND WE, UH, BREATHING A SIGN OF RELIEF, BUT WE WISH THOSE IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, UH, THE BEST.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'LL ALL BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM, UH, BACK IN RECOVERY.
[ATTENDANCE]
WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE ATTENDANCE.UH, MR. MADDEN, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, DO THAT, PLEASE.
UH, MR. GOLDBERG PRESENT HERE.
[CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES]
MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU CAN GIVE INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM AND SWEAR IN, I GUESS, THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE.AND IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM WHEN IT COMES UP, YOU'LL SWEAR THEM IN AT THAT, AT THAT TIME.
YOU, UH, MR. CHAIR? GOOD MORNING.
ALL TODAY'S MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 1700 CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE, AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM.
IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 8 5 3 5 2 5 7, WHICH IS A TOLL FREE NUMBER.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 8 6 9 6 1 5 3 0 9, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE, UH, WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 8 6 9 6 1 5 3 0 9.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE SWEARING.
IN THOSE THAT ARE TESTIFYING TODAY, I'M GOING TO REMIND ALL AND READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE SPEAKING TO THE BOARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON YOUR BEHALF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
IF YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
[SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC]
THOSE THAT WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY, UH, AND THAT ARE HERE IN CHAMBERS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.ARE YOU GUYS TESTIFYING? OKAY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, UH, I'LL CONTINUE WITH SWEARING IN THOSE FOLKS VIRTUALLY AS THEY COME IN.
THANK YOU, MR. STATE ATTORNEY.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS MR. MADDEN? WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS TODAY.
[1. After Action Report – September 3, 2024 ]
IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT WAS SENT OUT, YOU HAD THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.HOPEFULLY YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT.
UM, AND IF THERE'S NO CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS, I'LL OH, THE, THE LOCATION NEEDS TO CHANGE.
SO, YEAH, CORRECT THE LOCATION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE AGENDA.
UH, WE, WERE NOT THE MIAMI BEACH COMMAND CENTER.
UM, AGAIN, MS. SILVERMAN, WE APOLOGIZE, UM, FOR THAT.
UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEDS.
[2. ZBA24-0161, 605 LINCOLN ROAD UNIT 800RF]
WE HAVE A REQUEST.ONE REQUEST FOR, UH, A CONTINUANCE.
IT'S GONNA BE ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH 1 6 1 6 0 5 LINCOLN ROAD UNIT 8 0 0 RF.
CAN YOU PLEASE, UH, TEE THAT UP FOR US, MR. MADDEN? SURE.
THIS IS, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S DECISION, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT IT, THAT IT BE CONTINUED DUE TO SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY'VE HAD AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO
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MAKE THE MEETING TODAY.WE DON'T NEED, SO THEY'D LIKE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING.
WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, DO WE? WE DO.
WE WOULD NEED A, WE NEED A MOTION CASE.
WE NEED A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE.
TO CONTINUOUS MOVE TO APPROVE.
[OPEN AND CONTINUED ITEMS AND PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED ITEMS]
UH, CONTINUING, CONTINUING ON.UM, WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED APPLICATIONS? WE HAVE NO PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED APPLICATIONS.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE ON, TAKE UP OUR FIRST, UH, APPLICATION.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE FOR THIS MEETING.
[3. ZBA24-0164, 5451 ALTON ROAD]
GONNA BE ZBA 24 DASH OH 1 64 54 51 ALTON ROAD.UH, CAN YOU PLEASE, UH, TEE THAT UP FOR US? MR. BENON? THANK YOU.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING VARIANCES FOR THE REQUIRED FRONT INTERIOR SIDE AND SOME OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS, AND TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE AND LOT COVERAGE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, FOR BACKGROUND, THIS HOME DID RECEIVE A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IN AUGUST OF 1998.
UM, AND THAT WAS TO WAIVE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A GARAGE AT THE EXISTING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON ALTON ROAD.
IT FRONTS THE LAGO GOLF COURSE, UH, ON THE REAR.
UM, THE HOME CURRENTLY EXPERIENCES A SIGNIFICANT FLOODING FROM, UH, FROM THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE THE HOME AND MAKE THE HOME MORE RESILIENT.
AND, AND, AND AS PART OF THAT, DO A SECOND STORY ADDITION TO THE HOME.
UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE HOME HAS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING SETBACKS, UM, IN EXISTING, UH, VARIANTS THAT WAS ISSUED FOR THE GARAGE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP.
AND AS A RESULT OF THESE CHANGES, THEY WOULD NEED OTHER VARIANCES IN ORDER TO DO THE SECOND STORY EDITION, UM, AS PART OF THE HOME.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING, UM, UM, BUILDING THE EXISTING WALLS OF THE, OF THE SINGLE STORY HOME.
SO THEY'RE DOING A SECOND STORY EDITION THAT'LL ESSENTIALLY FOLLOW THOSE SAME, SAME WALLS.
UM, SO THE FIRST VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, IS OF THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR A, UH, TWO STORY HOME.
SO THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR A TWO STORY HOME IS 30%.
HOWEVER, FOR A SINGLE STORY HOME IT'S 40% TODAY, IT COMPLIES WITH THE LOT COVERAGE.
ONCE THEY ADD THAT SECOND HOME, UM, TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO REMOVE PORTIONS OF THE HOME IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE TWO STORY LOT COVERAGE, WHICH IS LOWER THAN THE SINGLE STORY LOT COVERAGE.
UM, SO THAT DOES REPRESENT A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND A HARDSHIP FOR THEM.
UM, UM, CURRENTLY, THE, UM, UM, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED 30%.
THE CURRENT HOME IS AT 37.3% OF, OF A LOT COVERAGE, AND THEY WOULD BE INCREASING THAT 38.4%, STILL LOWER THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR A SINGLE STORY HOME.
UH, BUT IT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER BECAUSE THEY DO NEED TO DO SOME, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE GROUND FLOOR IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT SECOND STORY.
UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT VARIANCE.
THE SECOND VARIANCE IS FOR THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK OF SIX, UH, SEVEN FEET, SIX INCHES, AND THE SUM OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS, WHICH IS OF 25% FOR LOT WIDTHS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE LESS THAN 65 FEET.
UM, AND THAT'S IN ORDER TO DO THE SECOND STORY ADDITION.
THE SINGLE STORY HOME ALREADY HAS THESE SETBACKS IN ORDER TO GO UP.
THEY NEED THE VARIANCE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, THE SECOND FLOOR AT THOSE SAME SETBACKS.
AGAIN, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF KEEPING EXISTING HOMES AND, AND MAKING EXISTING HOMES RESILIENT.
SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS VARIANCE.
IT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, THIS, THE THIRD VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS OF THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE OF 50%, UM, IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE ADDITION.
UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING A VARIANCE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO GO TO 51.8% OF THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE.
THIS IS IN ORDER TO DO SOME, SOME MINOR ADDITIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO ACCESS THE SECOND LEVEL, THE STEPS AND SOME OTHER THINGS, UM, UM, THAT ARE NECESSARY.
IT'S A, IT'S A MINOR INCREASE, UM, THAT MAKES THE, THE ADDITION WORKABLE AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS VARIANCE.
UM, OVERALL, THE, UM, OH, ADDITIONALLY THEY HAVE A VARIANCE, WHICH WILL BE CONTINUING THE VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, BACK IN 1998 OF THE FIRST STORY, UH, SETBACK FOR WHAT WAS THE GARAGE.
THAT GARAGE AREA WILL BE CONVERTED INTO A GOLF CART GARAGE IN THE FRONT, A MECHANICAL ROOM IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF IT WILL BE TURNED INTO AN OFFICE.
UM, CURRENTLY I BELIEVE THAT SPACE IS USED.
UM, THERE'S A SPACE BEHIND IT THAT'S USED FOR A KITCHEN.
THE KITCHEN WILL BE RELOCATED TO WHAT IS TODAY THE GARAGE, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UM, OR SORRY, THE GARAGE WILL BE RELOCATED TO WHAT IS TODAY, THE KITCHEN.
UM, AND SO THE HOME WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, BUT IT'LL JUST BE LOCATED IN A DIFFERENT AREA.
UM, THE MECHANICAL ROOM IS INTENDED TO CONCEAL ALL OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO THAT SORT OF OFFSETS, UH, SOME OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE, OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS.
UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT VARIANCE GIVEN THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, AND IT'S JUST A CONTINUATION OF, OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VARIANCE.
SO OVERALL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCES AND, AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UH, APPROVE THE VARIANCES SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
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THANK YOU.DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? OKAY.
UM, SHOWING NONE, UM, THE APPLICANT, MS. COLA, I BELIEVE, ARE YOU GONNA BE PRESENTING TO US? SO CAN WE GO AHEAD AND SET THE CLOCK AT 10 MINUTES? THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU DID MOST OF OUR PRESENTATION, BUT WE'LL REPEAT IT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO WANNA HAND SOMETHING OUT FOR ALL OF YOU, UM, TO SEE.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE FIRST SCREEN PLEASE.
UM, I'M MYRA DIAZ BARTOLI, AND WITH ME IS MY SON, MICHAEL BARTOLI.
WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY OUR PROPOSAL TO RENOVATE OUR HOME, SHOWN ON THE SCREEN ABOVE, AND REQUEST THE BOARD'S APPROVAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY CHANGES.
WE PURCHASED THE HOME IN 1999, UM, IN 1980, I'M SORRY.
AND WE ADDED IN 1999 SOME LIVING SPACE IN A ONE CAR GARAGE.
UM, CURRENTLY THE HOME IS OCCUPIED BY MY SON MICHAEL, HIS WIFE, AND HIS SON WINSTON.
UM, OUR HOME IS DIRECTLY BEHIND LA GORES GOLF COURSE, AS MENTIONED BY ROGELIO.
THE GOLF COURSE GOLF COURSE WAS RENOVATED IN 93, AND AT THAT TIME, MY MIAMI DADE COUNTY DURHAM REQUESTED THAT THERE BE LOW RETENTION AREAS BEHIND OUR HOME AND THROUGHOUT THE GOLF COURSE, THESE LOW RETENTION AREAS ARE DESIGNED TO COLLECT WATER AND DRAIN THE WATER INTO THE LAKES OF THE GOLF COURSE AND EVENTUALLY INTO, UM, UM, UM, INDIAN CREEK WATERWAY AND BISCAYNE BAY.
HOWEVER, DURING HIGH TIDE AND HEAVY RAINFALL, THE WATER DOES NOT DRAIN, AND SOMETIMES ACTUALLY WATER FROM THESE WATERWAYS COMES INTO THE GOLF COURSE, FURTHERING THE SEVERE FLOODING ON THE GOLF COURSE.
AND IN OUR PROPERTY, ALTON ROAD ALSO FLOODS.
THE FLOODING HAS REPEATEDLY DAMAGED OUR HOME WATER FROM THE GOLF COURSE ENTERS THE NORTH CRAWL SPACE OF THE HOUSE EXITS THROUGH THE SOUTH CRAWL SPACE AND ATTEMPTS TO FLOW ONTO ALTON ROAD ONLY TO MEET THE FLOODING ON ALTON ROAD.
WATER STAYS IN THE CRAWL SPACE FOR SEVERAL DAYS OR WEEKS UNTIL IT EVAPORATES.
THIS HAS RESULTED IN DAMAGE TO THE WOOD FLOOR TRUSSES, AS WELL AS THE WOOD FLOOR WATER FROM THE GOLF COURSE, AS WELL AS ALTON ROAD HAS ALSO GONE INTO THE, UH, GARAGE AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT ROOM, AND HAS DAMAGED SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THERE AS WELL.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS WORKING ON A DESIGN TO RENOVATE ALTON ROAD, UM, AND REPLACE THE STORM DRAINS WITH A 10 FOOT DIAMETER STORM DRAIN.
UM, THIS PROJECT, HOWEVER, HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR 15 YEARS, AND IT'S NOW SCHEDULED FOR 2035.
UM, VISIBLE ON THE SCREEN ABOVE ARE PICTURES FROM THE RECENT RAINSTORM.
UM, WATER FROM ALTON ROAD HAS LED TO KNEE DEEP LEVELS IN FRONT OF OUR HOME, WHICH IS THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE, AND THE REMAINING SQUARES SHOW THE GOLF COURSE WATER FLOODING INTO OUR BACKYARD, OUR SIDE YARDS, AND THE CRAWL SPACE.
THE CONTINUOUS WATER DAMAGE HAS NECESSITATED THE REPLACEMENT OF FLOOR TRUSSES AND THE FLOORS IN 2016 AND IN 2021.
DESPITE THESE REPAIRS, PERSISTENT FLOODING CONTINUES TO WEAKEN THE STRUCTURE AND AFFECT OUR SAFETY.
THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN CLAIMS TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM, ALSO KNOWN AS THE PPA, UH, MATCHING GRANT.
THIS GRANT WAS AWARDED TO HOMES MOST AFFECTED BY FLOODING.
UH, OUR PROPERTY RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY'S CONSULTANT TO ELEVATE THE STRUCTURE AS A PRIMARY MITIGATION STRATEGY.
GIVEN OUR SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN SUSTAINABILITY, WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR HOME FROM FLOODING WHILE ALSO RETAINING ITS VALUE.
SINCE ELEVATING THE HOME WAS THE PRIMARY RECOMMENDED MITIGATION STRATEGY, WE CONSIDER TWO OPTIONS.
OPTION ONE, ELEVATE THE HOME TO BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS TWO FEET WHILE MAINTAINING THE OUTSIDE WALLS AND RENOVATING THE INTERIOR.
OR OPTION TWO, DEMOLISH THE HOME AND BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WE MET WITH THREE CONTRACTORS AND FOUR ARCHITECTS TO DETERMINE THE COSTS AND RESOURCES NEEDED FOR BOTH OPTIONS.
WE FOUND NO SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION COST ADVANTAGE TO DEMOLITION VERSUS ELEVATING AND RENOVATING.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A PROPERTY TAX ADVANTAGE WHEN A HOME IS RENOVATED VERSUS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRIMARY MITIGATION STRATEGY FOR FLOODING, WHICH IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL, ALREADY INCURRED A SUBSTANTIAL COST.
AS LONGTIME HOMEOWNERS IN MIAMI BEACH WITH A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WE DID NOT SEE THE NEED TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION AND INCUR SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY TAX RAMIFICATIONS.
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BUILDING NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX VALUE VALUE, ADDING A FURTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS.I GREW UP IN THE HOUSE AND I'M NOW RAISING MY FAMILY IN THE HOUSE, AND WE PLAN ON STAYING FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THEREFORE, WE DECIDED TO ELEVATE AND RENOVATE.
SINCE WE DECIDED TO ELEVATE AND RENOVATE.
WE CONSIDER CHANGES TO THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME TO ACCOMMODATE A GROWING FAMILY AND THE LIFESTYLE CHANGES THAT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF POST COVID.
UM, THINGS HAVE SHIFTED SIGNIFICANTLY WHERE BOTH PARENTS NOW ARE WORKING FROM HOME.
THIS CHANGE DEMANDS ADDITIONAL SECLUDED SPACES FOR PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES, WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR PRIVACY DURING WORK-RELATED TASKS, MICHAEL IS A REALTOR WORKING FROM HOME.
ALLISON, HIS WIFE, HAS A REMOTE JOB THAT INVOLVES DAILY ZOOM CALLS.
THEIR JOBS REQUIRE THEM TO WORK IN DIFFERENT SPACES TO AVOID INTERRUPTING EACH OTHER'S CALLS.
MIAMI BEACH HOMES, MOST OF THEM WERE DESIGNED FOR THOSE LIVING IN THE HOMES ONLY DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.
TODAY, MORE FAMILIES, AT LEAST WE DO LIVE IN OUR HOME YEAR ROUND, REQUIRING LARGER CLOSETS, KITCHENS AND STORAGE AREAS.
THIS IS ALL IN ADDITION TO THE OFFICE SPACE AND THE WORKOUT AREAS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
FAMILIES LIVING ON THE GOLF COURSE UTILIZE PERSONAL GOLF CARTS TO VISIT AND PLAY ON THE COURSE.
THESE CARTS ARE BEST STORED IN A GARAGE WITH THEIR RELATED EQUIPMENT SUCH AS GOLF CLUBS.
THIS IS PREFERABLE TO STORING THE CART IN THE BACKYARD, IN BACKYARD SHEDS, OR IN THE SIDE SETBACKS UNDER AN AWNING.
TO ACHIEVE THESE OBJECTIVES, WE NEED THE BOARD'S APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING OF VARIANCE FOR LOT COVERAGE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LOT COVERAGE OF 37.3% WITH 28 47 SQUARE FEET, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A LOT COVERAGE OF 38.4%.
UM, WITH 29 POINT 59 SQUARE FEET, IT'S A LOT COVERAGE INCREASE OF 1.1% OR 112 SQUARE FEET.
THE VARIANCE WILL ALLOW US THE EXTRA DEPTH IN THE GARAGE FOR A VEHICLE SUCH AS AN SUV AND THE GOLF CART TO BE KEPT INSIDE INSTEAD OF IN THE BACKYARD OF THE HOME.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE REQUESTING THIS LOT COVERAGE INCREASE FROM THE EXISTING LOT COVERAGE, YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR PERMEABLE AREA WILL INCREASE AS OPPOSED TO THE PERMEABLE AREA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
IT WILL INCREASE IN THE BACKYARD AS WELL AS IN THE SOUTH, UH, SOUTH YARD, SOUTH SETBACK.
THIS IS, UM, VISIBLE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND IN THE DOCUMENT, UH, PROVIDED TO YOU TODAY.
THE SCREEN ABOVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE REFLECTS, UM, THIS LOT COVERAGE, UM, FOR UNIT SIZE.
THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, I'M SORRY, THE PROPOSED UNIT SIZE IS REFLECTED.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 51.8% WITH, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING 30 51 0.8%, I'M SORRY, WITH 39 87 SQUARE FEET.
THE ALLOWED AMOUNT IS 50%, WHICH IS 3,851 SQUARE FEET.
AND YOU SEE THIS IN THE SCREEN ABOVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
THE VARIANCE IS AN ADDITIONAL IN UNIT SIZE OF 136 SQUARE FEET, OR 1.8%, WHICH IS MOSTLY ATTRIBUTED AS ROGELIO MENTIONED TO THE STAIRCASE, WHICH IS COUNTED TWICE.
IT'S COUNTED FOR UNIT SIZE ON BOTH FLOORS.
THE RENOVATION WILL NOT DEMOLISH ALL THE EXTERIOR WALLS OR SIDEWALLS OF THE EXISTING ONE STORY HOME.
THE RENOVATION INCLUDES ADDING A SECOND FLOOR WITH THE SAME SIDE YARD SETBACK AS THE EXISTING FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOME WITH A LOT WIDTH, AS MENTIONED BY ROGELIO OF 60 FEET.
THE REQUIRED SUM OF THE SIDE YARDS NEEDS TO BE BY CODE 15 FEET.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE RETAINING THE SIDEWALLS FOR THIS RENOVATION OF THE FIRST FLOOR, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE REQUEST A VARIANCE FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR SITE SETBACKS.
THIS WILL ALLOW THE SUM OF THE SIDE YARDS TO BE LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 15 FEET.
THE PROPOSED SUM OF THE SIDE YARDS ON THE EAST SIDE IS 13.25 FEET, AND ON THE WEST SIDE IT'S 11 POINT 19 FEET.
THIS IS PARTLY DUE BECAUSE THE LOT IS PIE SHAPED.
UH, THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE THE SAME AS THE EXISTING SIDE YARDS ON THE FIRST FLOOR AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, AND WOULD REMAIN THE SAME FOR BOTH FLOORS
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WITH THE RENOVATION.THERE ARE HOMES ON THE ROAD THAT DID SIMILAR RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS.
WE WERE ABLE TO, THAT WERE ABLE TO RETAIN THE SAME SITE SETBACKS.
THERE ARE NINE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS ON OUR BLOCK.
A DOCUMENT PROVIDED TO YOU TODAY ALSO ADDRESSES THE ADDRESSES OF HOMES MARKED IN ORANGE AS SIMILAR TO THE, UH, SCREEN ABOVE THAT PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
YOU NEED MORE TIME? YEAH, JUST ONE MINUTE.
UM, GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SCREEN PLEASE, OR NEXT SCREEN.
LASTLY, ON AUGUST 7TH, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPROVED THE VARIANCE TO WAVE THREE FEET OF THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SOUTHWEST FRONT YARD SETBACK.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRING THAT THIS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VARIANCE BE REAPPROVED AT THIS TIME.
WHILE RENOVATING OUR HOME, AS MENTIONED BY ROGELIO, WE ADDED A MECHANICAL ROOM, WHICH IS OPENED ON THE SIDES AND ON THE TOP ROOF THAT ALLOWS FOR THE STORAGE OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
THIS WILL KEEP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FROM BEING STORED ON THE ROOFTOP, SUCH AS AC UNITS OR ON THE SIDE SETBACKS.
IT WILL HOUSE HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT REQUIRED FOR A HOME TODAY, SUCH AS WATER HEATERS, AC EQUIPMENT, AND DOOR GENERATORS.
THE RE IN CONCLUSION, THE RENOVATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL NOT ONLY FOR OUR FAMILY SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND CHANGES IN LIFESTYLE, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL VALUE AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROPERTY.
WE KINDLY REQUEST THE BOARD'S APPROVAL FOR THE VARIANCES SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THIS CRUCIAL IMPROVEMENT.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO ENSURE OUR PROJECT ALIGNS WITH COMMUNITY STANDARDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
WE THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FIRST, THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM, MR. MADDEN? NOBODY'S ON ZOOM.
ANY, ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER? OKAY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
MR. ION FIRST COMMENTS, THANK YOU FOR, FOR, UH, COMING HERE.
AND THIS IS A LONG LASTING FAMILY OF MIAMI BEACH, LIKE MY PARENTS, AND I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO STAY IN THE HOUSE AND FIX THE HOUSE.
AND, AND I'M GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING AT MY PARENTS' HOUSE WITH THE FLOODING.
SO HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS FOR, FOR TAKING THIS TOLL AND, AND WANTING TO STAY THERE AND FIXING THE HOUSE AND, AND MAKING IT BETTER.
UM, SMALL COMMENT ON THE DRIVEWAY.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF INTERIOR YOU'RE USING, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SPACING BETWEEN, UM, SOME TYPE OF, UH, LIKE LARGE TILES OR WHATNOT TO HAVE THE WATER ABSORB BETTER.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER JUST TO ABSORB THE FRONT YARD, UM, WATER BETTER.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT THE HOUSE OVERALL LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
I HAVE CERTAIN, I HAVE A FEW IDEAS I WOULD TELL YOU TO DO ON, ON THE HOUSE, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU LATER, BUT I THINK IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
THANK YOU TO YOUR COMMENT, MR. ION.
THE, UM, OR AXION, AS I ALWAYS HAVE MENTIONED, UM, THE, THE BOARD, UH, OR THE BUILDING CODE, OR AT LEAST THE CITY NOW REQUIRES THOSE PAVERS TO BE PERMEABLE, UM, WHEN USED IN FRONT DRIVEWAYS.
SO IT WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE YOU MADE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? QUIET BOY THIS MORNING,
UM, I JUST HAD, I HAD A COMMENT.
I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE MULTI-GENERATIONAL THAT YOUR SON'S RAISED IN THEIR FAMILY THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GO OUT AND I WALK ALL THE SITES AND I, I DID, YOU KNOW, WALK, WALK AROUND THAT AREA AND, UM, AND WHEN I SAW THOSE PICTURES OF THE FLOODING, YOU KNOW, MY DAD'S ON 59TH AND NORTH BAY ROAD, HIS GARAGE GOT TOTALLY FLOODED.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, TO SEE, TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT, IT'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
I MEAN, AND YOU'RE A LONG TIME RESIDENT, STAKEHOLDER, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY.
SO, UM, AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE AND AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER HOUSES, ONE, YOU KNOW, PICTURES ARE ONE THING TO SEE A PICTURE OF HOUSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO GO AND SEE IT, IT GIVES YOU ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY MAKING A MAJOR INVESTMENT TO, FOR THE LONG TERM.
AND I THINK THE HOUSE LOOKS GREAT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA FIT IN GREAT WITH THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT GOING THAT ROUTE AND KNOCKING IT DOWN AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, GOING, GOING UP THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY, I THINK WE HAD ONE AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH, WHICH WAS THE SAME.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA WEIGH THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF IT.
UM, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY REDOING THE WHOLE HOUSE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO ISSUES AND WE'LL DEFINITELY BE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT YOU IN THIS.
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THANK YOU.I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, AN INTENTIONAL PLAN TO CREATE SOME SORT OF A AREA WHERE WATER IS CAUGHT AND COLLECTED AND THEN DUMPED BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSE INTO THE BAY.
AND SOMETIMES IT WORKS THE OTHER WAY AROUND, BUT THAT THIS WAS DONE BY WHOEVER IN THE STATE OR THE, SOME MUNICIPALITY, WHOEVER IT WAS, WHATEVER IS GONNA BE DONE ON THE HOUSE.
IS THAT GOING TO, IN ANY WAY IMPACT THAT SET UP WHERE THESE COLLECTION BASINS OR IMPACT IN ANY WAY? SO IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. GELLER, THIS THE, UM, CITY REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A RETENTION WALL AROUND THE PROPERTY, THAT YOU KEEP YOUR WATER WITHIN YOUR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THAT THERE HAS TO BE DRAINAGE IN WITHIN THE PROPERTY, UH, TO COLLECT THAT WATER AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
AS FAR AS, UM, ALTON ROAD, WHAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED RIGHT NOW ARE, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT 60, 80% DESIGNED AT THIS POINT BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THEY'RE PUTTING, UM, DRAINS IN THE SWALE AREAS, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE WATER THAT MAY FLOW IN FROM THE STREET INTO, UM, THE PRO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIDEWALKS AND SWALES.
THEY'RE ALSO PUTTING IN THE 10 FOOT DIAMETER, UM, PIPE, WHICH IS EXTENSIVE.
UH, BUT THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE ALTERNATE ROAD AS WELL AS NEIGHBORING STREETS.
BUT THAT'S NOT TILL THE YEAR 2035.
WE'RE WORKING FOR THAT TO BE MOVED UP TO SOONER BECAUSE AS, UM, CHAIRPERSON MR. GOLDBERG STATES, THE FLOODING ON THESE HOMES IS, UM, BEYOND, UH, INCREDIBLE.
HE HAS A BROTHER THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
THE HOUSE WAS FLOODED DURING THE LAST RAINSTORM, AND THE WATER CAME INTO NOT JUST THE HOUSE WHERE THE GRANDCHILDREN HAD TO COME OUT THROUGH THE WINDOWS, BUT, UM, THE CARS, ONE OF THEM HAD 30 GALLONS AND ANOTHER ONE HAD 20 GALLONS OF WATER DAMAGING THE, THE TWO SUVS.
UH, AS FAR AS THE GOLF COURSE, THE LAGOS COUNTRY CLUB IS WORKING WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO FIX THE DRAINAGE AND THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS ONCE WE PUT THAT PERIMETER RETAINING WALL, IT WILL KEEP THEIR WATER FROM COMING INTO OUR PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THEY'RE FURTHERING THEIR INVESTIGATION OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THESE LOW RETENTION AREAS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND A HOME.
AND WE'RE REQUIRED BY DAY COUNTY DURHAM BACK IN THE NINETIES.
SO THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE CORRECTED GOING FORWARD AS WELL.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M, WE'RE NOT MESSING WITH ANYTHING THAT DADE COUNTY DERM IS ACQUIRING.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE, THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS.
THOSE WOULD CONTINUE TO APPLY REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUANCE OF THESE VARIANCES.
THOSE STANDARDS WOULD STILL, WOULD STILL BE, UH, IMPOSED.
THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL MAKE IS, AND AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU, YOU HANDED OUT ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS 54 55 AND 54 49.
THERE WASN'T IN OUR PACKAGE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
SO, AND I GET THAT'S, YOU JUST HANDED THAT OUT, THAT YOU GOT LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS ON THOSE, THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT CAME IN AFTERWARDS.
THERE'S ANOTHER SEVEN IN YOUR PACKET.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THESE VARIANCES COME, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE APPLICANTS AREN'T AS PROACTIVE IN, IN GETTING THE APPROVALS AND IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS ONE OF US ALWAYS ASK IS, DID YOU SPEAK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? DID YOU GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT? AND IF THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS QUESTION, IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS, A RIFT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THERE'S, APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS IN GETTING THERE.
AND THERE'S A ANOTHER HOUSE THERE THAT'S VACANT ON THE BLOCK, AND SO I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THEM AND, BUT I LEARNED THAT FROM MICHAEL LARKIN IN THE BACK THERE,
UM, ANY MORE COMMENTS BY THE BOARD, JUST MR. DAVIS? YES.
UM, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, WITH THE PROPERTY.
I, I LIVE FIVE BLOCKS NORTH OF, OF THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE.
AND I'M ALSO PLAYING GOLF AT THE HORSE COUNTRY CLUB.
WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BACKYARD AND FRANKLY, THE BACKYARD SITUATION, WATER, WATER IS NOT FOR, FOR THEM HASN'T BEEN GREAT FOR A LONG TIME AND I APPRECIATE DOING WHAT MICROPHONE.
YOU HEARD, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT WHAT I SAID.
NO, I'M JUST VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
GLAD YOU'RE SPENDING THE TIME, MONEY, AND ENERGY TO, TO GET THIS DONE FOR, FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO, TO PRESERVE THE, THE LOOK THAT YOU HAVE.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS MICHAEL IN MIAMI BEACH,
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, NO OTHER COMMENTS.
I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION BY THE BOARD.
I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY MR. IAN.
OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD, GOOD LUCK.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
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OKAY.OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO OUR SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND HERE.
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ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH 1 62 1 6 9 1 MICHIGAN AVENUE.UH, MR. MADDEN, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND TEE THAT ONE UP FOR US PLEASE? YES.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS CLOSER THAN 300 FEET FROM AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY AND CLOSER THAN 300 FEET FROM A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
UM, SO THIS IS A, UM, THIS, THIS BUILDING IS A FEW BLOCKS AWAY HERE ON 17TH STREET.
IT'S ON LAND THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND THERE'S A LONG-TERM LEASE TO THE, UM, TO THE OWNER OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THE OFFICE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING A RENOVATION.
UM, THEY RECENTLY HAD THEIR, THEIR FACADE, UH, RECL OF BOTH THE, THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE PARKING GARAGE APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UM, THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN A MONTH OR TWO, UH, TO APPROVE A DRIVEWAY.
THIS BUILDING HAS CURRENTLY A, A DRIVE THROUGH TELLER FOR A PREVIOUS BANK THAT EXISTED ON THE SITE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE TURNING THAT INTO A VALET DROP OFF.
I'M MENTIONING THE VALET DROP OFF BECAUSE IT'S RELEVANT TO THIS VARIANCE.
AND I'LL, I'LL DISCUSS THAT MOMENTARILY.
SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A VARIANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED NEAR, UM, UH, THE LINCOLN MARTI SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON 17TH STREET, UM, AS WELL AS THE, UM, UH, CUBAN, UH, CUBAN HEBREW, UH, SYNAGOGUE, UM, THAT'S ALSO ON 17TH STREET.
SO THEY REQUIRE THE VARIANCES DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS TO HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS NOT A, THAT IS NOT A RESTAURANT.
THE, UM, THE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SMALL SPEAKEASY TYPE ESTABLISHMENT, WHICH WILL BE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
UM, THE OFF THE LOCATION WILL HAVE AN OCCUPANCY OF 137 PERSONS AND PROVIDE 97 SEATS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING HOURS THAT WILL BE, UH, DURING THE DAYTIME WILL BE, UH, FROM I BELIEVE 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM UH, WILL BE LIMITED TO THE USE OF OFFICE TENANTS BY RESERVATION ONLY.
SO IF YOU'RE A TENANT IN THE BUILDING, YOU WANNA HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT AT THIS LOCATION.
IT WON'T BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AFTER 6:00 PM IT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
UM, THE, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THEY ALLOWED TO BE, TO BE, BE ALLOWED TO BE OPEN UNTIL 3:00 AM STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE LIMITED TO 2:00 AM.
HOWEVER, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THERE BE A PROGRESS REPORT THREE MONTHS AFTER THE ESTABLISHMENT OPENS, UH, BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
AND AT THAT POINT, IF THERE'S NO ISSUES, THE BOARD COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER, UH, MODIFYING THOSE HOURS OR IF THERE ARE ISSUES, POTENTIALLY RESTRICT THOSE HOURS FURTHER.
UM, THE, THE, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA, UM, IT'S GONNA OFFER OPTIONS OF SELF PARK.
THEY DO HAVE AN ONSITE PARKING GARAGE THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR VALET PARKING.
THIS VALET PARKING AREA IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
SO POTENTIALLY THAT APARTMENT BUILDING COULD BE IMPACTED BY NOISE AS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THEIR CAR AFTER, AFTER DRINKING, UM, IN THIS VALLEY AREA.
SO WE WANT TO, WE RECOMMENDED A CONDITION THAT THIS VARIANCE BE TIED TO THE APPROVAL OF THAT, UH, OF THAT DRIVEWAY AT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UM, AS WELL AS, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S, THAT THERE'S A SOUND WALL OR SOMETHING DONE TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL NOISE.
WE DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT AS PEOPLE LEAVE THE ESTABLISHMENT, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOUD, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE NOISE, AND THAT'S GONNA IMPACT PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCATED RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT APARTMENT BUILDING DOES HAVE UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
UM, SO WITH THOSE TWO CONDITIONS OF, OF, UH, HOURS 2:00 AM AND TYING THE VARIANCE TO THE APPROVAL OF THAT DRIVEWAY WITH, WITH, UM, NOISE MITIGATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE VARIANCE BE APPROVED.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? DO OKAY.
UM, SHOWING NONE, UM, MR. LARKIN AND MR. RODRIGUEZ? MR. RODRIGUEZ, YES.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU 10 MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, TWO SOUTH BISCAY BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WOMEN TODAY IS NICK RODRIGUEZ AND PATRICK CORY.
UM, CAN WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION? AS ROGELIO DESCRIBED, WE ARE PROPOSING A MODEST SPEAKEASY THAT'S WELL WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 17TH STREET, UH, JUST NORTH OF LINCOLN ROAD.
THE ZONING DISTRICT IS CD THREE TO THE NORTH OF US IS THE PALM VIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE SOUTH OF US IS THE COMMERCIAL CENTER OF OUR CITY LINCOLN ROAD.
THIS, THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE EXISTING
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BUILDING.IT WAS BUILT IN 2002, A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, INCLUDING A SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND AN ATTACHED PARKING GARAGE.
THE PARKING GARAGE CONTAINS OVER 700 SPACES, WHICH IS A HUGE BOON TO ALL THE SHOPPING THAT OCCURS IN LINCOLN ROAD, THE PATRONS, I KNOW I'VE PARKED THERE SO MANY TIMES I LOST TRACK.
UH, IT'S A GREAT LOCATION TO HAVE A GARAGE.
AND THIS IS SHOWING THE DRIVE-THROUGH AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE DARK CA KIND OF CAVITY ON THE BOTTOM ELEVATION ON SOUTH SIDE OF 17TH STREET.
UM, THAT IS WHAT LIO WAS DESCRIBING AS THE DRIVEWAY THERE.
HE'S THE PRINCIPAL BEHIND BLACK LION.
HE HAS ASSUMED THE TENDENCY OF THIS BUILDING, IT'S A GOOD BUILDING, BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT DATED.
SO HE'S DOING, MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO IMPROVE IT.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FACADE THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE DRB AT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.
HE REALLY WANTS TO REVAMP IT AND MAKE IT AS NICE AS POSSIBLE.
IN FACT, HE HAS COINED A PHRASE HE CALLS CLASS X OFFICES, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT EVEN BETTER THAN A CLASS A OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE.
THIS IS ONE RENDERING OF THE VALET AREA.
WE OF COURSE, AGREE WITH STAFF'S CONCERN ABOUT SHIELDING THE RESIDENTS TO THE RESIDENCE TO THE EAST, AND WE'LL HAVE A VERY THICK ACOUSTIC BARRIER THERE, UH, TO PREVENT ANY TYPE OF NUISANCE FROM OCCURRING, UH, IN THAT LOCATION.
THIS IS ALSO JUST ANOTHER SHOT OF THE VALET AREA.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE CHAPTER SIX, WHICH CONTAINS ALL OF THE REGULATIONS CONSIDERING THE SALE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES APPLIES.
THERE'S DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN PLACES THAT SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND INSTITUTIONAL USES SUCH AS SCHOOLS AND SYNAGOGUE.
SO HERE WE NEED TO SEEK A DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM THE LINCOLN MARTI DAYCARE AND FROM THE CUBAN HEBREW SYNAGOGUE, WHICH ARE THE INSTITUTIONAL USES THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE PALM VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IMMEDIATELY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 17TH STREET.
NEXT SLIDE HERE IS, UH, FLOOR PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THE SPEAKEASY IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN PART, UH, OF IT.
AND THEN THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGED IN THE SOUTH PART.
AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, THE SPEAKEASY WILL ONLY OPEN UP AT UH, 6:00 PM UH, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND WE ARE PROPOSING A CLOSING TIME OF 3:00 PM IF WE WOULD STICK WITH WHAT STAFF IS SAYING, CLOSING TIME OF 2:00 AM THEN ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE TO GET OUT BASICALLY BY ONE 30.
WE'RE PUSHING THEM OUT THE DOOR.
WHAT I, WE SPOKE TO ROBERT ANI LEY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO TALK TO ME BEFORE THE HEARING AND SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH 3:00 AM.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A COMPROMISE OF 2:30 AM THAT MEANS THAT AT 2:00 AM THE EMPLOYEES ARE TELLING THE PATRONS, OKAY, FINISH UP.
THIS IS THE LAST DRINK YOU NEED TO GET OUT BY TWO 30.
WE THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE COMPROMISE.
I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL, UH, TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE INSIDE.
NEXT SLIDE, ANOTHER RENDERING.
SO THESE ARE THE HOURS OPERATION FOR OFFICE TENANTS.
EIGHT TO 5 59 TO THE PUBLIC, 6:00 PM TO TO 2:00 AM UH, 3:00 AM JUST ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WILLING TO DIAL THAT BACK ONLY ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAY NIGHTS.
THE REST WE CAN ABIDE BY STAFF'S CONDITION OF 2:00 AM.
SO JUST ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT, UH, 2:30 AM UM, WE'RE HAVING A DJ THERE, BUT OF COURSE THIS IS ALL INSIDE.
BUT WE WILL STILL INSTALL ACOUSTIC PANELING TO PREVENT ANY TYPE OF NOISE LEAKAGE TO GO OUT TO THE CORRIDOR.
WE DON'T WANNA BOTHER THE OTHER OFFICE TENANTS, BUT IT NEVER WILL BE THAT LOUD.
DJS JUST THERE FOR MORE ATMOSPHERE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE REACHED OUT TO LINCOLN MART.
WE HAD PATRICK ACTUALLY WALK ACROSS THE STREET, KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR, AND THEY WERE VERY KIND AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE OWNER IS ACTUALLY, HIS OFFICE IS IN YOUR OFFICE BUILDING.
SO WE WENT TO SEE HIM, MR. DEMITRI PEREZ, WHO'S A, A LEGENDARY FIGURE.
HE AND HIS FATHER IN MIAMI POLITICS.
UM, BUT THEN NOW THEY FOUNDED THIS VERY SUCCESSFUL DAYCARE CHAIN OF DAYCARE THROUGHOUT MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
AND WE SPOKE TO HIM AND HE IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY AN EMAIL FROM HIM WE CAN PULL UP.
UM, IS THAT POSSIBLE? YEAH, WE CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, HARD FOR ME TO READ EVEN WITH MY LENS SURGERY, BUT IT'S THERE.
AND HE WAS, HE WAS RESPONDING TO AN EMAIL SAYING, YES, YOU KNOW, CURTLY, NO PROBLEM.
UM, SO, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, THAT'S IT.
UH, WE'RE HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
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ANYTHING.UH, LEMME GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE CHAMBERS? OKAY.
GONNA OPEN UP TO BOARD MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
SO YOU REACHED OUT TO THE DAYCARE
YOU REACHED OUT TO THE DAYCARE.
DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE SYNAGOGUE AS WELL? YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO GO THROUGH, UH, MAX SLAR WHOSE FATHER, UH, UM, OSCAR SLAR WAS ACTIVE AT THE SYNAGOGUE ONE TIME.
AND THEN HE TOLD ME HE'S NO LONGER ACTIVE.
THEN I REACHED OUT TO ALEX TMI, WHO'S A FELLOW ZONING ATTORNEY, AND HE WAS ACTIVE AT THE SYNAGOGUE ONE TIME.
HE SAID HE'S NO LONGER ACTIVE.
I USED TO LIVE IN PALM VIEW FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S BEEN MY IMPRESSION OF THE SYNAGOGUE IS JUST NOT THAT ACTIVE NOWADAYS.
AND I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF NUISANCE TO ANYBODY.
AND I SAW THAT THE DAYCARE WAS DAILY ACTIVE WITH LOTS OF ACTIVITIES.
SO I WAS LIKE, I TRIED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SYNAGOGUE, BUT I FELT THAT THE DAYCARE, SINCE IT'S SO ACTIVE, I FELT THAT WE CAN GO TO THEM EASILY AND WE DID.
OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. ION? YEAH.
UM, IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESS IS GONNA HAPPEN, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT IN, IN THE OFFICE BUILDING? OR IS IT JUST TO ATTRACT MORE TENANTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SPEAK EASY SO THEY FIGURE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO RAISE RENTS BECAUSE THIS IS A, AN AMENITY OF FOR THE OFFICES OR WHAT? I THINK IT'S MORE IN LINE OF CREATING A NEW IMAGE FOR HIS CLASS X OFFICE.
AND THAT IS AN AMENITY FOR THE TENNIS LB THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, I THINK SOME MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, MIGHT COME TO IT.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE JUST TO HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE TENANTS THERE HAVE A PLACE TO RELAX LIKE RIGHT AFTER WORK.
UM, SO I SEE IT MORE OF AN AMENITY FOR THE TENANTS, BUT BECAUSE THE OPERATOR IS GONNA BE H WOOD, H WOOD IS A VERY WELL KNOWN COMPANY.
THEY DID DELILAH AND BRICKELL CITY CENTER, THE NICE GUY.
THEY'VE TAKEN OVER A BUILDING THAT'S ALMOST GOING TO COLLAPSE ON LINCOLN ROAD WHERE, UH, ICEBOX CAFE USED TO BE A LONG TIME AGO.
THEY'RE TAKING THAT OVER AND SO THEY'RE MAKING THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN AND THEY'RE GREAT OPERATORS.
SO JUST BY VIRTUE OF THAT FACT, I THINK SOME AREAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL COME, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH ROBERT'S VISION OF REPURPOSING THIS BUILDING TO MAKE IT JUST AS EXCITING AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THAT VALLEY ENTRANCE, IS THAT ON, UH, THE MICHIGAN SIDE BETWEEN THE, THE THE GARAGE AND THE OFFICE BUILDING? IS THAT WHERE THAT VALLEY ENTRANCE IS? I MISSED IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL IT BACK UP.
CAN YOU PUT THAT UP? IT'S ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
IT'S AT THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER.
IT FUNCTIONED AS A DRIVE-THROUGH FOR THE BANK PREDECESSOR.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CAVITY RIGHT THERE ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, THAT IS WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
THE TRAFFIC FLOW NOW IS GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.
WE'RE GONNA REVERSE THAT TRAP, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS.
WE'RE GONNA REVERSE THAT TRAFFIC FLOW, HAVE IT GO FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
AND, UM, WE JUST FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE OUR VALET.
SO THEN WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES OUT, IT, IT'S GOING ALONG THE, THE APARTMENT BUILDING AND THEN IT COMES BACK OUT ON THE, ON THE ALLEY AND IT TURNS EAST ALONGSIDE OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING AS WELL TO GET OUT.
IS THAT HOW IT GOES OUT OR? NO.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, YOU WOULD BE DRIVING, LET'S SAY EAST ON 17TH STREET, UHHUH
YOU WOULD TAKE A RIGHT UHHUH
THEN YOU'D DRIVE SOUTH TO LINCOLN LANE NORTH, WHICH IS THE ALLEY YOU WOULD TAKE A LEFT.
BUT THAT'S STILL A PART OF OUR, OUR GARAGE AT THAT TIME.
OUR GARAGE IS IN THAT AREA OF LINCOLN LANE NORTH.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU HIT THE NEXT STREET, OUR, OUR GARAGE IS THERE.
IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
IT DOESN'T FLOW OUT TO JEFFERSON IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S A SMALLER RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
UM, I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF MR. ION, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING.
UM, WHEN I WAS AT COLONIAL BANK, WE WERE THE FIRST TENANT, SO WE DID THE DRIVE THROUGH THERE THAT THOUGHT.
SO, UM, AND IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE AND WE HAD TO MEET WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATION NEXT DOOR AND MM-HMM.
UM, BUT TO THAT EFFECT, IS IT GOING TO BE TWO WAYS? I I I AGREE WITH IT.
GOING FROM NORTH TO NORTH TO SOUTH, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WHERE THE VALETS ARE GONNA, THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TURN IN THE ALLEY AND GO RIGHT INTO THE GARAGE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA PARK THE CARS IN THE, IN THE GARAGE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO HOW ARE THEY GONNA BRING THEM BACK? IS IT GONNA BE TWO WAYS? SO THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING THE OTHER WAY AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LANE, TWO LANES, ONE ON THE EAST AND ONE ON THE WEST SIDE.
BECAUSE WHEN, IF YOU DO THAT, AND I ACTUALLY DROVE IT YESTERDAY 'CAUSE I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE SITE AND I DROVE IT AND IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU'RE GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH, IT, IT NARROWS MM-HMM.
SO MY QUESTION IS HOW ARE, HOW ARE YOU DOING THE, YOU KNOW, THE EGRESS, IS IT GONNA BE TWO LANES ONE
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WAY? HOW ARE YOU GONNA THE PICK UP THE DROP OFF? RIGHT.IT WILL JUST BE, UH, ONE LANE HEADING SOUTH WITH REGARD TO THE VALET ROUTE.
IT'S A LITTLE CIRCUITOUS, BUT IT WOULD BE, YOU EXIT ON NOT MICHIGAN, WHAT'S THE STREET? JUST TO THE EAST? IT'S LINCOLN LANE AND THEN JEFFERSON.
SO YOU WOULD EXIT ONTO JEFFERSON, YOU'D GO NORTH A LITTLE BIT, YOU'D HIT 17TH STREET, YOU TAKE A LEFT, YOU HIT WEST, THEN YOU HIT MICHIGAN, YOU TAKE A LEFT AND YOU WOULD, WELL I THINK YOU WOULD JUST TURN, YOU TURN EAST WHEN YOU PICK UP THE CAR, YOU WOULD GO STRAIGHT AND THEN YOU TURN EAST AND YOU COME RIGHT OUT TO THE STREET.
SO IT'S REALLY DOWN THE ALLEY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, YEAH, YEAH, I DID IT YESTERDAY.
WHICH, WHICH I THINK WHAT WILL WORK? UM, MM-HMM.
UM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM? ARE THEY FORWARD AGAINST IT? 'CAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE FOR THEM.
IT LITERALLY ABUTS THE, THE THAT DRIVE THAT DRIVEWAY.
'CAUSE AGAIN, I DID THIS CHALLENGE IN 1999 WHEN WE GOT IT DONE AND THEY WERE, THEY, THEY OBJECTED TO US PUTTING THE DRIVE THROUGH.
BUT I THINK YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM IS GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND I REMEMBER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE REPRESENTED US BACK THEN, BY THE WAY, QUITE
I DON'T REMEMBER BACK THAT FAR, BUT I DO REMEMBER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THERE WAS A, A CHARMING OLDER LADY CAME OUT.
SHE WAS FORCEFULLY AGAINST THE PROJECT FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.
UM, UH, SOMEONE THAT WERE KIND OF FUNNY IN, IN RETROSPECT, BUT LIKE, I DO REMEMBER HER AND A COUPLE OF OTHER FOLKS.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S PRUDENT.
WE, WE REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE WILL THROUGH THE CHAIR, MR. IAN.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND I SEE THAT THE APARTMENTS THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, I THINK THE, THE BEDROOMS AND, AND, AND BATHROOMS THAT BACK UP INTO THAT ADDIE.
SO, UM, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING STRONG FOR A SOUND BECAUSE THAT AT PEOPLE GETTING THEIR CARS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THAT'S LITERALLY IN THOSE, SINCE IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING THAT HAS THOSE CHAY WINDOWS AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW RIGHT.
IT'S, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR RIGHT INTO THAT BEDROOM.
UM, I, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS AWESOME WITH WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PROJECT.
I JUST THINK THEY NEED TO, AND BY THE WAY, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE, IN THE FUTURE THAT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, GET KNOCKED DOWN IN SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN, AN ISSUE WITH THE, THOSE BEDROOMS THAT RUN ALONGSIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
NO, I DO, I I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A BEDROOM RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS DRIVE, I I, I'VE KNOWN THAT BUILDING FOR A WHILE AND MY GYM HAPPENS TO BE CIRCUIT ACADEMY, WHICH IS JUST RIGHT NEXT TO SUIT SUPPLIES.
SO I GO BY THERE EVERY MORNING.
AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE ASTOUNDED NOWADAYS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH NOISE ABSORPTION MATERIALS.
SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT BLANKETED ON, ON THAT FIRST LEVEL WHERE THE VALET WILL ONCE AGAIN, MAKE THAT DRIVEWAY ERROR BECOME ACTIVE.
ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING WOULD'VE GOTTEN NOTICED YEAH.
SO, AND THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN NOTICE OF THE FIRST DRB HEARING, THE SECOND DRB HEARING, AND THERE'S BEEN NO, NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD AND, AND OBJECTED.
OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, MR. LER? YEAH, TWO THINGS FIRST ABOUT WHAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.
UM, DO, DO THOSE ABUTTERS HAVE ANY, OTHER THAN I GUESS PUBLIC COMMENT, DO THEY HAVE ANY STANDING TO TAKE A POSITION ON THIS, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR IN THE DDRB, WHATEVER IT IS? I MEAN, IT, IT, IT, IT SEEMS SHOCKING TO ME HOW CLOSE IT IS.
WELL THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.
AND HAVING GONE THROUGH IT WHEN I HAD TO PUT THE DRIVE THROUGH THERE, WE, WE WERE PROACTIVE IN REACHING OUT TO THEM, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROACTIVE.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE GOT A LETTER SUPPORTING IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THEY COULD HAVE DONE TO STOP IT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE I GUESS THAT'S, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, THE QUESTION IS, WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, THE SOUND WALL OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S NOT THERE NOW AND IT'S GOING TO DISTRACT IT'S OPEN.
NO, IT'S COMPLETELY, IT'S COMPLETELY OPEN.
YOU AND YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A WALLET UP THERE TOO.
I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO, TO PUT SOMETHING? 'CAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE GAME.
'CAUSE I KNOW WELL IT'S WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CLOSE IT.
'CAUSE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CARS GOING THROUGH THERE AND, AND IT BEING, YOU KNOW, THE FUMES AND ALL THAT, I, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CLOSE.
WELL I THINK ONE OF THE VISUALS, IT SHOWED A WALL THERE.
YEAH, IT'S, IT DID, IT'S BEING ENCLOSED.
YOU, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
IT'S, CAN COULD YOU PULL THAT BACK? CAN YOU, CAN YOU PULL THAT BACK UP PLEASE? OUT? IT LITERALLY BLOCKS ONE IN THE BALCONY.
IF WE CAN PULL THAT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN AND JUST KIND THAT ONE, THAT'S THE ONE, YEAH.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT, YEAH, SO NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE.
NOW THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
SO THAT, EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WALL IS ON THE LEFT.
LOOKS LIKE IT HAS THE NAME, A NAME ON THERE IS LIKE, I GUESS THE GONNA BE THE NAME OF THIS RNI, THE SPEAKEASY.
SO WHAT MAT, WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE LIKE? WHAT MATERIAL? IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SOLID WALL.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A NOISE ABSORPTION MATERIAL THAT'S SOLID.
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WILL BE WATER FEATURES KIND OF INTEGRATED WITHIN TO ALSO SOFTEN ANY NOISE THAT WILL COME FROM THE CARS AND PATRONS IN THIS AREA.IT WOULD, YOU COULDN'T LEAVE IT OPEN.
THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS ORIGINALLY PERMITTED AS DRIVEWAY AREA, SO IT WAS PERMITTED FOR THAT TYPE OF CIRCULATION.
AND WE'VE HAD OUR ARCHITECT LOOK AT THIS.
THAT WAS ONE OF MY EARLY QUESTIONS ON THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
COULD THIS BE PERMITTED? AND IT WAS PERMITTED AND THERE'S STILL ADEQUATE CIRCULATION AND AIR COMING FROM THE REMAINDER OF, OF THIS DRIVEWAY AREA THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
SO CAN YOU SEE THROUGH THAT WALL? LIKE IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU CAN, YOU SEE, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, WELL, WELL, ALRIGHT, SO THIS ISN'T EVEN, I WAS JUST SORT OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF YOU GUYS.
THIS ISN'T EVEN MY MAIN QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST OBSERVING THAT.
WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW? WELL, OKAY.
IF YOU WANT, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A CLOSER ONE ON ONE OF THE OTHER PICTURES.
WELL, AND WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS, I'M JUST OBSERVING, I'M THINKING, UM, RIGHT, THAT'S OPEN NOW.
SO I'M JUST THINKING OF LIKE FOUND IN BLUE EDEN ROCK WITH LIKE THE, THE SHADE OVER THE POOL.
REMEMBER THAT ONE? SO I'M JUST THINKING LIKE THE RESIDENTS ON THAT FIRST FLOOR BY BUILDING THAT WALL, IS THAT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CASTING MORE SHADE? IS THAT PREVENTING SIGHT LINE, WHATEVER IT IS.
I I WAS, THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF THEY HAVE LIKE STANDING TO TAKE A POSITION BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THEIR PROPERTY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE SHADE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING TOWERS OVER IT AS IT IS, RIGHT.
A COMMERCIAL ZONE AND IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE, YOU HAVE ZERO SETBACKS FOR YOUR INTERIOR SIDE ART SETBACKS.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S MUCH BETTER TO LOOK AT AND WE CAN MAKE THE WALL AS DECORATIVE AS POSSIBLE FACING THEM, BUT IT'S BETTER TO LOOK AT THAT THAN AN OPEN DRIVEWAY.
ANYWAY, THAT WAS AN OBSERVATION.
LEMME GET TO MY, MY, MY REAL QUESTION IS THIS, I THINK THE, THE VARIANCE AND, AND SINCE THEY, I GUESS IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS AND WHATNOT ON IT.
BUT THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES THAT REQUIRE A 300 FOOT SEPARATION.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN ESSENTIALLY USE THAT.
IT'S NOT A PRETE, IT'S, BUT AS A REASON TO SAY TWO 30 INSTEAD OF THREE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT REALLY THE ISSUE IS TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE 300 FEET AWAY, OR NOT 300 FEET AWAY.
SO MY COMMENT, AND, AND I GUESS AS A COMMENT, I DID SOME QUICK MATH.
UM, YOU GOT THE ISSUE, THE SINGULAR ISSUE FOR YOU, FOR YOU ALL TO GET THIS APPROVED IS DO WE, ARE WE OKAY WITH PUTTING THIS LESS THAN 300 FEET AWAY FROM THESE TWO PROPERTIES, A, A SCHOOL AND A PLACE OF WORSHIP? THAT'S THE ISSUE.
AND 50% OF THOSE YOU ALL DIRECTLY REACHED OUT TO AND 50% OF THOSE, HE REACHED OUT TO AN OLD FRIEND, MR. ESS, A LAWYER WHO USED TO KNOW BACK WHEN OR WHO USED TO GO THERE BUT DOESN'T ANYMORE.
AND THEN HE SAID, IF I GOT THIS CORRECTLY, IT'S ON THE RECORD.
BUT SOMETHING LIKE, HE KIND OF LIKE DID WHAT YOU FELT WAS EASY AND THAT YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY, IF I DON'T IF, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
YOU DIDN'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, YOU DIDN'T GOOGLE THEIR PHONE NUMBER AND CALL THEM.
YOU DIDN'T OPEN THE YELLOW PAGES OR WHATEVER IT IS NOWADAYS AND TYPE UP A, A LETTER AND, AND PUT IT IN THE MAIL AND SEND IT TO THEM AT THEIR ADDRESS.
UM, THAT IF I'M, IF I'M, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE WAS NO EFFORT OF ANY KIND TO MAKE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
AND, AND MY MATH IS THAT IT'S 28% LESS THAT WE'D BE ALLOWING FOR, MEANING IT'S 216 FEET OR AS OPPOSED TO 300 FEET.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A DECREASE OF 28%.
WHY DIDN'T YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE TWO PLACES THAT ARE AT ISSUE.
WHY DIDN'T YOU SEND THEM A LETTER? PICK UP THE PHONE AND TAKE A PHONE CALL? WELL, THAT MEANT NO DISRESPECT.
WHAT'S THAT? WE, WE, WE CALLED SHIP CALL.
YOU WANT, YOU WANNA STEP UP? HEY GUYS.
PEOPLE WERE SWORN IN, RIGHT? YES.
THANK YOU FOR GUYS FOR HAVING ME.
UH, WE, AS PART OF OWNERSHIP, WE DID CALL THEM.
WE NEVER GOT A CALL BACK FROM THEM.
WE NEVER RECEIVED A CALL BACK FROM THEM.
WHO CALLED, UH, ME PERSONALLY AND MY ASSET MANAGER, HER NAME IS EL.
THE TWO OF US WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR REACHING OUT TO BOTH THE SCHOOL AND THE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
UH, THERE WAS NEVER, UH, WE NEVER SAW ANYONE THERE.
AS, AS HE SAID, WE DID WALK OVER TO THE SCHOOL.
IT WAS THE SAME PROCESS FOR BOTH.
WE DID GET A RESPONSE BACK FOR THE SCHOOL.
MICHAEL LARKIN DID REACH OUT TO HIS CONTACTS, AND WE NEVER MADE, WE NEVER MADE ANY HEADWAY WITH THAT.
AND, AND WAS ANYTHING EVER PUT IN WRITING LETTER, EMAIL, ANYTHING? NO.
NEVER HAD AN EMAIL FOR THEM OR, OR LETTER? NO.
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I, I THINK, UM, I WOULD'VE EXPECTED A LITTLE MORE EFFORT.UM, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, MR. RENICK, I ASSUME THAT THE TEMPLE WAS NOTICED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS? YES.
THEY, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN WITHIN THE 375 FOOT RADIUS THAT WOULD'VE RECEIVED BY MAIL AND YES.
UM, SO I GUESS MY, JUST ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE VALET, TO ME, PROBABLY THE VALET IS LESS OF AN ISSUE POTENTIALLY THAN JUST THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW, AND THE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA NECESSARILY DRIVE THEIR OWN CARS THERE.
AND IN, IN GREAT VOLUME, IT'S GONNA BE UBER AND LYFT.
AND IS, IS THERE ANY PLAN OR, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT? AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS JUST SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THIS IS WIDELY SUCCESSFUL.
I THINK YOU HAVE A 97 PERSON OCCUPANCY.
SO, YOU KNOW, ON SATURDAY NIGHT THERE COULD BE AN EXTRA 20, 30 PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN.
I ASSUME THE QUEUING WOULD BE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND THEN JUST THOUGHTS ON THE UBER, LYFT, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE IS OVER ON MICHIGAN.
UM, THE CARS, IF YOU'RE SELF-DRIVING WILL GO TO THIS VALET AREA.
BUT THE PRINCIPAL INTERESTS WHERE THE GEO CATCHES IS GONNA BE OVER ON MICHIGAN.
STILL, IT'D BE HARD TO GET UBER AND LYFT TO SWITCH IT OVER TO THIS DRIVEWAY AREA, SO SOME MIGHT COME, BUT I ASSUME MOST OF THEM WILL COME FROM THE MICHIGAN AVENUE ENTRANCE AND BE ABLE TO GET EASILY IN THAT WAY.
AND THERE WON'T BE ANY BACKUP ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT YOU GOOD, MR. RENICK? ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GOOD? OKAY, MR. JUSTIN.
UM, LISTEN, I THINK IT'S AN, I THINK THE OFFICE OF BUILDING IS GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.
I GET WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO IN GENERAL.
I WISH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT IT WAS ON, ON THE MICHIGAN SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S VALE THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR IT TO HAPPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK OUTSIDE THAT SIDEWALK, GET THEIR UBERS AND TALK ON THAT SIDEWALK RIGHT NEXT TO THESE, THESE APARTMENT UNITS.
IT'S JUST PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGING ELEMENT OF IT.
MY GUESS IS THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA EVENTUALLY START TO COMPLAIN FROM IT.
AND YOU HAVE TO DO THE BEST AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE SOUND BETWEEN THERE AND THERE.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK OUT TO GET THEIR UBERS ON THE STREET, AND THESE BALCONIES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS.
I MEAN, LITERALLY, IT FEELS LIKE IF THEY'RE INCHES AWAY.
UM, I WOULD TELL YOU TO SPEAK TO THE ASSOCIATION AND HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM JUST TO EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THIS.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AGAIN, WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT SITE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT FOR NOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NOBODY HERE FROM, UH, I REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT I KNOW IS INVOLVED WITH THEIR ASSOCIATION.
BUT, UH, JUST SPEAK OUT, REACH OUT TO 'EM, AND I'M SURE THERE CAN BE MEETING OF THE MINES SOMEHOW.
I TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THEIR, WHO I THOUGHT WAS THEIR PROPERTY MANAGER, DANIEL ILLA, WHO DOES THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, BUT HE NO LONGER REPRESENTS THEM.
SO, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU THE PHONE NUMBER OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS ON THE BOARD AND YOU COULD REACH OUT TO 'EM.
MR. NAG, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET MR. DAVIS, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
MR. DAVIS, JUST A QUESTION FOR, FOR YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, UH, UH, WHAT IS OUR AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THAT FROM TWO TO TWO 30? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT POWER DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? TOTALLY WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT MM-HMM.
UH, REDUCED TIME ON THE WEEKENDS ON, UH, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
I SAW THAT FROM, FROM THE PROPOSAL WAS THREE.
I THINK COMPROMISE WAS OFFERED AT TWO 30.
AND, AND, AND, AND 2:00 AM IS 2:00 AM SET BY A CITY.
WELL, I'LL DEFER TO STAFF ROHELIO, BUT I, I'M IMAGINING HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
ISN'T A 5:00 AM LIQUOR LICENSE, THEY, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A 5:00 AM THERE'S NO RESTRICTION HERE THAT WOULD LIMIT YOU ANY FURTHER.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 2:00 AM BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
UH, IS THE PLACE OF WORSHIP STILL IN, IN BUSINESS, SO TO SPEAK? I KNOW, I KNOW.
IF IF IT WEREN'T, I GUESS IT WOULDN'T BE ONE OF THE TWO ITEMS, TWO, ONE OF THE TWO THINGS ON AT ISSUE.
BUT, BUT IS IT, IS IT STILL IN OPERATION? I MEAN, IT'S THE BUILDING'S PHYSICALLY THERE AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT DOES REQUIRE THAT THEY BE NOTIFIED THEY'RE WITHIN THE 3 75 RADIUS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COME BACK, UH, UNCLAIMED OR ANYTHING, BUT I CAN, NO, I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING IF ANYONE KNOWS, LIKE IS IT THE USE, THEY CAME TO THE, I BELIEVE THE DESIGN? NO, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD A FEW YEARS BACK TO ADD A DAYCARE FACILITY THERE.
SO AS OF A FEW YEARS AGO, I KNOW IT WAS, IT WAS FUNCTIONING.
I'M NOT SURE IF, IF, UH, THEY'RE STILL VERY ACTIVE TODAY.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE LICENSED AND THEY'RE OPERATING.
DID THEY ADD THE DAYCARE FACILITY AS PROPOSED? IT RELOCATED
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TO TEMPLE EMANUEL.THEY HAD IT THERE FOR A WHILE.
I REPRESENTED THEM THE DAYCARE, BUT IT RELOCATED TEMPLE EMANUEL.
AS LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR LICENSE ACTIVE, YOU CAN SHUT DOWN ENTIRELY.
BUT IN THE CITY'S MIND, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE OPEN IF YOU JUST RENEW YOUR BTR.
BUT ARE THEY OFF ADDRESS? YEAH.
HEY, I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, SORRY TO INTERRUPT THIS, BUT I KIND OF WANTED TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERN WITH THE UBER AND WHATNOT.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CALL AN UBER, AS MICHAEL SAID, IT WILL PICK YOU UP ON THE MICHIGAN SIDE, SO IT WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY TAKE YOU TO THE VALET.
AND IN ADDITION, WE ARE BUILDING INSIDE OF THE LOBBY AREA, WE'RE BUILDING AN INDOOR WAITING ROOM.
SO ANYBODY WHO'S WAITING FOR THEIR VALET WON'T BE CONGREGATING OUTSIDE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE BENCHES THAT YOU'RE SITTING OUTSIDE AND FINISHING YOUR DRINK.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BRING THE DRINK.
AND THEN AS YOU MENTIONED, THE QUEUE IS ALSO, UH, IF THERE EVER IS A WAITING, UH, TO GO UPSTAIRS, ALL OF THAT DOES REMAIN INSIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE'RE BUILDING A CLASS X OFFICE, WHICH IS A NOTCH ABOVE CLASS A.
UH, THE TENANTS OF THE BUILDING ARE GONNA BE OF, OF THE, OF, OF, OF THAT CLASS X CALIBER.
H WOOD, AS THEY MENTIONED, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU GUYS ARE.
THEY'RE A WORLD CLASS OPERATOR.
UH, THEY, THEY OFFER HIGH END ESTABLISHMENTS ACROSS THE WORLD, INCLUDING DUBAI, UM, LA LAS VEGAS, NASHVILLE.
THIS ISN'T A RUN OF THE MILL ESTABLISHMENT.
WE'RE NOT EXPECTING PEOPLE TO BE RUNNING AMMUCK AND CREATING A SCENE.
ON THE CONTRARY, THIS IS A VERY INTIMATE, UH, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, HIGH END SPEAKEASY.
SO I, I, I WOULDN'T BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE UBER DOES NOW COME ON THE MICHIGAN SIDE.
SO IF THEY ARE CALLING AN UBER, THEY'RE GONNA BE FORCED TO GO TO THAT SIDE.
AND IF THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR CAR, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE WAITING INSIDE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD ON THE, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, I DUNNO IF YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
UH, ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND, AND HATS OFF.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I, I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF WHAT'S GOING ON, REGARDLESS.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK OUT TO THE SIDEWALK.
YOU KNOW, I USE UBER EVERY DAY.
AND WHEN YOU CALL A CAR, THERE'S, IF YOU DROP THE PIN ON 17TH STREET, IT'S GONNA PICK YOU UP ON 17TH STREET.
IT'S NOT GONNA PICK YOU UP ON MICHIGAN.
BUT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK OUT TO THE SIDEWALK AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS UNIT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M AGAINST THE CONCEPT, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A REALITY THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WITH THE EVER CHANGING DYNAMICS OF THESE BUILDINGS, UM, THAT ARE BY LINCOLN ROAD.
WE WANT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IN GENERAL WANTS TO SEE MORE ACTIVATION ON LINCOLN ROAD, WANTS TO IMPROVE.
LINCOLN ROAD WANTS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE ONTO LINCOLN ROAD.
BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE BEING UPSET OF HAVING PEOPLE JUST WAITING ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND, AND, AND WE'RE NOT, WHICH IS GONNA EVENTUALLY HAPPENS SOMETIMES.
UM, QUESTION, THE VALET IS ONLY GONNA BE AT NIGHT, OR IS IT GONNA BE DURING THE DAY TOO? ALL DAY.
LEMME SAY FOR SOMEONE THAT WAS A TENANT IN THAT BUILDING FOR MANY YEARS, YES.
THAT IS GONNA BE A REALLY NICE ADDITION, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE I ALWAYS HATED GOING TO THAT PARKING GARAGE.
AND IT, AND IT IS GOOD HOW IT'S SITUATED.
SO FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO JUST DROP OFF THE VALET, YOU KNOW, THE CAR THERE AND WALK RIGHT IN, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD VALUE ADD.
NOW, AS YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GO INTO THE GARAGE, COME DOWN THE ELEVATOR, COME AROUND.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN ADDED FEATURE TO TENANTS, TO GUESTS OF THE BUILDING, ET CETERA.
AND IT IS GONNA BE TWO LANES THAT ARE BOTH GONNA BE HEADED SOUTH.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE TWO WAY TRAFFIC, IT'S ONE WAY TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
SO, ONE OTHER THING, AND I'M SURPRISED NOBODY BROUGHT IT UP, AND MAYBE IT'S 'CAUSE I WAS A TENANT THERE FOR A WHILE AND FAMILIAR WITH IT, YOU KNOW, LUCKY STRIKE, UH, WAS THERE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, WHICH HAD, IT WAS BIG BOWLING ALLEY, UH, FULL BAR.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME THEY WERE OPEN TILL.
I MEAN, I, I WENT THERE MANY TIMES.
UH, AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS ON THE GROUND FLOOR OPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN KIND OF VICINITY OF SOME APARTMENTS AND ALL THAT.
THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, IS IT THE WHOLE THIRD FLOOR? THE WHOLE THIRD FLOOR? OR JUST PART OF IT? RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A PORTION OF IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, MICHAEL HAD EVEN SHOWN, UH, KIND OF A SITE, SITE MAP OF IT, A FLOOR PLAN OF IT.
AND ONLY THE SPEAKEASY PORTION IS WHAT'S GONNA BE OPEN AT NIGHT.
THE, UH, THE OTHER RENDERINGS THAT HE SHOWED ARE MORE TENANT AMENITIES THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON THE SAME FLOOR.
BUT IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A, A, A SMALL PORTION OF THE THIRD.
'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF BACK THEN IF THIS ORDINANCE WAS INTACT, THE 300 FOOT, YOU KNOW, FROM A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
IT WAS, UM, IT WAS SO I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO GET, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME.
AND AGAIN, TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD GET NOISY AT TIMES.
LIKE YOU STRIKE WHEN IT WAS THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST WANNA COMPARE THE TWO, I, I, I DON'T REALLY SEE AN ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE INSIDE INSULATED.
AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT CONCEPT AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR THE BUILDING.
IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE INVESTING THE MONEY IN THAT BUILDING.
IT NEEDS, IT WAS BUILT IN 1999.
UM, SO IT'S TIME, UH, FOR SURE.
WE APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY'S, UH, INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, TO MIAMI BEACH IN DOING THAT, OUR PLEASURE CHAIR, MR. IAN, NOBODY DROVE IN OR, OR WALKED INTO LUCKY STRIKE FROM 17TH.
I WAS JUST ADDRESSING, I WASN'T ADDRESSING THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT I WAS ADDRESSING MORE REMEMBER WHAT IS ON THE TABLE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A VARIANCE BECAUSE OF BEING 300 FEET WITHIN A PLACE OF WORSHIP AND, AND THE SCHOOL.
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10, 11 YEARS.UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'LL WORK.
UM, I, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT UP THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE, WE DID TRY AND MAKE NICE TO THEM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, CONDO BOARDS.
UM, AND JUST TRY AND GIVE THEM COMFORT THAT THEY'RE, THAT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, THAT YOU SAID TONIGHT, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M SURE I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY'RE WATCHING THIS, BUT ASSUME THEY'RE NOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THEM AND YEAH.
AND YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE LIKE, STATE FARM, BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
SO, UM, PATRICK'S MUCH NICER THAN I AM.
SO THAT PATRICK, UM, DOES ANYONE, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, MS. OMAN, GO AHEAD.
UM, JUST WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, TWO VERSUS TWO 30 VERSUS THREE OR WHATEVER, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT THE BUSINESS PLAN OF THE PROPOSED AMENITY FLOOR, INCLUDING THE SPEAKEASY, WAS MORE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.
CAN YOU JUST, CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT YOUR BUSINESS PLAN IS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE? IT'S REALLY A HYBRID.
UM, YOU KNOW, TRUTHFULLY, WE WOULDN'T BE BRINGING IN AN OPERATOR LIKE H WOOD IF WE WERE JUST TRYING TO LIMIT IT TO THE TENANTS.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WANNA REALLY BRING SOMETHING OF CALIBER, UM, TO THE BUILDING, TO MIAMI BEACH.
LIKE WE NOTED JUST NEXT DOOR, THEY ARE OPENING NICE SKY, WHICH IS PROBABLY ALONG WITH DELILAH, WHICH THEY HAVE, UM, IN BRICKLE BAY.
BOARDWALK IS PROBABLY THE TWO OF THEIR BEST CONCEPTS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE WORLD.
AND SO THIS SPEAKY IS KIND OF, UH, UH, UH, AN OFFSHOOT OF THAT HIGH CALIBER.
AND SO THEY, IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE ATTRACTING LOCALS ALIKE.
IT CERTAINLY IS OPEN DURING THE DAYTIME FOR TENANTS AFTER IMMEDIATELY AFTER WORK, WE'RE GONNA BE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE OUR OFFICE THERE.
THAT'S WHERE I'LL BE HAVING MY FIVE O'CLOCK DRINK.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF YOU ALL WANTED TO COME IN, ANY ANYONE WOULD BE WELCOME AFTER SIX.
SO, I, I, I THINK YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S IMPORTANT.
AND THANK YOU MS. SILVERMAN FOR BRINGING UP THE TIME.
'CAUSE I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY BRING THAT UP THAT WE ALL KIND OF BE IN AGREEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO, THEY WANTED TO BE OPEN UNTIL THREE.
I MEAN, IS THE BOARD COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WITH THE TWO 30? JUST SO, SO WE KIND OF KNOW WHICH DIRECTION WE'RE GONNA GO.
I THINK IF IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE NEIGHBORS, IT'S THE EXTRA HALF HOUR IS NOT GONNA BE THE PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ANNOYED AT 11 30 12, 12 30.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXTRA HALF HOUR.
AND IT DOES, AGAIN, OUR CODE IS END OF CONSUMPTION, NOT LAST CALL.
SO THIS DOES, YOU KNOW, AS MR. LOCKIN SAYS, GET IT TO MORE OF A TWO O'CLOCK LAST CALL.
AND YOU DO HAVE MILA OVER THERE, WHICH IS A COMPETITOR, FRIENDLY COMPETITOR.
AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER ON MIAMI AND WINDWARD, IT'S ALSO, I BELIEVE, THREE O'CLOCK.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WANT SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES.
WE GOTTA GIVE THEM THE, THE AMMUNITION TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND THIS IS JUST FRIDAY, SATURDAY, THE REST WILL ABIDE BY TWO, 2:00 AM THIS MORNING.
WELL, AND AGAIN, AGAIN, IT, IT IS, YOU COULD BEAT TILL 5:00 AM IF YOU WANTED TO.
SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG, IT'S A BIG, YOU'RE SCALING BACK A LOT.
AND THIS IS ALSO A 97 PERSON OCCUPANCY ESTABLISHMENT.
SO IT'S NOT MR. MAGWOOD, CAN WE SEE THE EMAIL AGAIN? THAT WAS SENT BY THE SCHOOL INTERESTED.
I JUST WANNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
CAN WE MAKE IT BIGGER? CAN WE ZOOM, CAN WE ZOOM IN ON IT? THE LAST PART OF THE FIRST SENTENCE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST KEEP X OUT THAT TO THE LEFT AND THAT SHOULD OPEN UP TO THE WHOLE SCREEN.
IF YOU X OUT THAT IT SHOULD, THERE YOU GO.
NOW YOU CAN SHOOT WHO'S PATRICK MORE? THAT'S HERE.
THERE'S NO NEED TO BOTHER WITH A CALL OR TAKE ANY FURTHER.
I APPRECIATE THE HEADS UP AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO EDUCATE ME AS TO THE USE, BUT THERE'S NO NEED.
WE WILL NOT OPPOSE THE VARIANCE.
THANK YOU FOR OFFERING TO HOST THE CHICKEN THE CHILDREN
I HAVE LIKE FOR A HALLOWEEN EVENT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE BEST FOR MARIA TO MEET THE DIRECTOR OF THE CHILDCARE CENTER, LENORE, AND DISCUSS THAT WITH HER.
THAT, THAT'S SECOND PART HAS TO DO WITH THE HALLOWEEN.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT YOU HAVE THAT AND I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS IT'S A LEGITIMATE EMAIL AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA, THEY GOT NOTICES, THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY SOMETHING.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH, UH, WITH THE TWO 30.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, I, I'M JUST, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE ORGANIZATION.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BRING AN, AN ADDED ELEMENT TO LINCOLN ROAD AND ELEVATE, UH, LINCOLN ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, CONTINUE TO BE NEEDED.
AND, AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING ARE FANTASTIC.
I JUST THINK THAT YOU JUST NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A, A GOOD MEETING OF THE MINDS THERE BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE AND JUST HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS, AS, AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE.
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ZOOM.MR. MADDEN? YES, WE HAVE, JOSE HAS HIS HAND RAISED.
I THINK, DO YOU WANNA SWEAR HIM IN MR. STATE ATTORNEY? SURE.
DO YOU WANNA REOPEN THE, I'M SORRY.
YES, WE'RE REOPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OH, HE SEEMS TO HAVE TAKEN HIS HAND DOWN.
MUST HAVE BEEN WHAT YOU SAID, MR. OH, NOPE.
OKAY, SO WE'RE REOPENING REOPEN.
BEFORE YOU START, I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? OH, YES.
AND I'M GOING TO SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE JEFFERSONIAN CONDOMINIUM, WHICH IS THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, THE BUILDING WHERE THESE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE.
AND I ALSO HAVE A UNIT THAT FACES THAT DRIVEWAY AND THE BOARD.
AND MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE NOISE PROBLEMS COMING FROM THAT DRIVEWAY.
AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THESE OPERATIONS.
SO THIS IS A, A VERY PEACEFUL BUILDING.
IT'S AN OWNER OCCUPIED, UH, THERE ARE MANY OLDER PEOPLE HERE.
AND SO OUR CONCERNS ARE IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING TO REDUCE THE NOISE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE THINGS WE THOUGHT ABOUT ARE, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD ENCLOSE THE DRIVEWAY SO THAT IT DOESN'T, SO THAT IT DOESN'T RELEASE AS MUCH NOISE? OR WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HELP PAY TO SOUNDPROOF THE UNITS THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING? AND I'M TALKING 15 FEET, SO WE ARE LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.
AND I, I THINK, UH, SINCE THIS MIGHT, SINCE THIS SINCE APPROVING THIS REQUIRES A CHANGE, I WAS HOPING THAT THE BOARD WOULD, UH, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD TAKE OUR CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR EXPECTATIONS AS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF THIS BUILDING ARE, ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT, MR. LUCK? SURE.
SO WE ARE GONNA DO THE SOUND BARRIER AS HE SUGGESTED.
THAT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS WITH REGARD TO THE SUPPORT AGREEMENT.
WE REQUIRE A SUPPORT AGREEMENT FOR US TO GIVE FUNDS TO THE ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T DO HERE IN THE PODIUM, BUT WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, WE GO THROUGH THE DETAILS, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.
AND JUST A QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT DRIVEWAY IS AN ACTIVE DRIVEWAY, SO THIS ISN'T CHANGING ANYTHING.
YOU SAY INACTIVE IT IS, IS ACT WELL, IT'S ACTIVE, YOU CAN USE IT.
IT, IT CAN BE USED, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU, YOU, SO EVEN IF THIS SPEAKEASY AND YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING WOULD WANT TO VALET ANYWAY FOR ITS OPERATIONS AND THAT, THAT DOESN'T NEED ANY VARIANCE, RIGHT? NO, NO.
THERE ARE SOME PARKING SPOTS WHEN YOU FIRST TURN IN.
THOSE PARKED, I THINK 10 OR 15, ABOUT 10 SPOTS.
THOSE PARKING SPOTS ARE GOING TO STAY.
AND I SEE CARS THERE EVERY DAY.
WHO PARKS THERE? UM, IT'S, UH, THE, THE WILLIAMS SONOMA FOLKS.
THE OLD LUCKY STRIKE LOCATION THAT'S, UM, THOSE WILLIAMS SONOMA.
SO THOSE ARE ASSIGNED, SO LIKE THE SAME PEOPLE ARE PARKING THERE? CORRECT.
NO PROBLEM REACHING OUT TO THEM.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER PERSON RAISE THEIR HAND.
I DON'T YOU WANT TO, UM, WHO DO WE HAVE ON ZOOM? ROBERT.
ROBERT, YOU THERE? HI EVERYBODY, ROBERT.
YOU NEED TO GET, UH, SWORN IN.
ROBERT, BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD, I HAVE TO SWAY YOU IN.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
AND I'M GONNA SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO HEAR OUR HEARING ABOUT THIS.
I'M THE OWNER FOR THE BUILDING.
AND I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES, SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORS.
IN DESIGNING THIS BUILDING, THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD COHABITATE IN A PEACEFUL MANNER.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO ENCLOS THAT AREA AND PROVIDE A SOUND BARRIER IN ADDITION TO A WATER FEATURE ON THE INTERIOR OF THE, UH, VALET IN ORDER TO FURTHER MITIGATE THAT NOISE.
SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
RIGHT NOW THAT DRIVEWAY IS COMPLETELY OPEN, DELIVERY TRUCKS ARE GOING IN AND OUT.
PEOPLE ARE USING THAT AS A WAY TO SKIP TRAFFIC OR GO FROM LINCOLN, UH, LANE OUT TO 17TH STREET.
SO I THINK BY MAKING IT ONE DIRECTIONAL AND ENCLOSING IT, THAT MITIGATES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS. FURTHERMORE, WHILE THE SPEAKEASY SOUNDS VERY GRANDEUR AND, AND BIG, AND IT CAN CAUSE A LOT OF RUCKUS, IT'S ONLY 40 TO 45 SEATS.
SO IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN INTO COUPLES OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 10 TO 12 VEHICLES IN A GIVEN NIGHT.
UM, SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
SO I THINK BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE SPACE ONLY BEING 12 TO 1300 SQUARE FEET WITH THE, UM, SEAT COUNT BEING SO MINIMAL IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE BARRIERS AND, UH, THE NOISE BARRIERS, I THINK THAT SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, ENHANCED ANY OF THE CONCERNS, UM, THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORS HAVE.
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AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN ADDITION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY AND FOR BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN MR. ANA.
OKAY, LAST, LAST CHANCE FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. CHAIR.
JUST I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SORRY, CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL ASK TO ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.
MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE TWO 30.
SECOND, WELL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE TWO 30, BOTH, BOTH VARIANCES.
THERE'S TWO VARIANCE WITH, WITH THE VARIANCES AND ADJUSTING THE, OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. KNICK.
OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MUCH THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN MIAMI BEACH.
AND THERE WILL BE A, A PROGRESS REPORT WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OPENING.
UM, SO, SO YOU WILL SEE THEM AGAIN BEFORE THE BOARD.
UM, OKAY, SO NEXT ITEM, OUR THIRD ITEM AND FINAL ITEM IS
[5. ZBA24-0163, 411 MICHIGAN AVENUE]
GONNA BE ZBA TWO FOUR DASH OH 1 63 4 1 1 MICHIGAN AVENUE.OKAY, SO THIS, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS CLOSER THAN 300 FEET FROM AN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY.
SO THIS IS A SIMILAR TYPE OF VARIANCE, IS THE ONE WE JUST HEARD.
UM, THIS IS AT FOUR 11 MICHIGAN AVENUE.
THAT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S A BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE, THE SITE, YOU MAY RECALL THE SITE, IT SAT FOR A WHILE.
UH, THEY STARTED DIGGING THE FOUNDATIONS FOR A PREVIOUS PROJECT, AND THEN THE SITE SAT VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
THE, A NEW, A NEW, UH, OFFICE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THERE ON THE REAR OF THE, ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE.
THERE IS, UM, WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WAS RELOCATED TO THE CORNER OF, UH, OF MICHIGAN AVENUE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UM, UM, AND THAT IS A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC BUILDING THAT WAS RELOCATED THERE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.
THEY'RE LOCATED CLOSER THAN 300 FEET FROM SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, SO THAT THEY CAN OPEN UP A RESTAURANT THAT WILL SERVE A ALCOHOL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THE RESTAURANT WILL HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS.
ONE WILL BE LOCATED IN WHAT WAS FORMERLY THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THAT WILL HAVE A, UH, A SMALLER COMPONENT OPERATING THERE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'LL HAVE, UH, 20 TOTAL OF 51 SEATS IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN IN THE OFFICE BUILDING ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND THEN IN A, A SECOND FLOOR MEZZANINE AREA, THEY WILL HAVE, UH, 184 SEATS.
UM, WITH AN OCCUPANCY OF 214 PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, THEY, THEY SUBMITTED PLANS THAT SHOWED A TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF 270 THAT THEY ACTUALLY CAN, UH, FIT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO YOU MAY BE HEARING A DIFFERENT NUMBER FROM THE APPLICANT STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO MODIFYING THE NUMBER, UM, UM, TO THE, TO THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING THAT THEY THINK THEY CAN FIT A LITTLE BIT MORE ONCE THEY GO IN THROUGH PERMITTING.
UM, STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THAT INCREASE AS LONG AS IT REMAINS BELOW 299 OCCUPANCY, WHICH IS THE LIMIT IN THE CODE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT ESTABLISHMENT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD PREFER THAT THEY COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND ADJUST THE VARIANCE.
UM, THEY WOULD ALSO NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL.
UM, THE, THE ESTABLISHMENT, UM, SINCE IT'S LOCATED WITH NEAR A SCHOOL STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT ALCOHOL ONLY BE SERVED WITH FULL MEALS DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
SO THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM SITTING AT THE BAR JUST TO DRINK ALL DAY.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD LITERALLY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING THERE AND EATING AND ORDERING A MEAL.
AND THEN YOU COULD ORDER, UH, AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE AS PART OF THAT MEAL AFTER SCHOOL HOURS.
THEY COULD OPERATE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD SIT AT THE BAR AND JUST HAVE A FEW DRINKS WITHOUT, WITHOUT ORDERING A MEAL.
UM, SO STAFF, STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THIS VARIANCE.
UM, IT'S, THIS, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE SITE.
THE GROUND FLOOR WAS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A RESTAURANT.
UM, AND THIS DOES REPRESENT A HARDSHIP FOR THE SITE BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF USE YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ON FIFTH STREET.
UM, AND SO, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THE DICE? UH, I WENT TO THEIR TOP OFF EVENT AND, UH, SPOKE TO 'EM THERE, BUT NOT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
UM, I, I, UM, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, WHO'S IN THE CHAMBERS, REACHED OUT TO ME THIS MORNING TO SHOW HIS SUPPORT.
HE'S VP OF THE PTA THERE AND HIS DAUGHTER ATTENDS THERE AND HE'S A SUPPORTER.
NOT SURE IF HE COULD TALK COMMISSIONER, BUT WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND DISCLOSE THAT.
I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM, UH, THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DISCLOSURES FOR
UM, WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, TEE IT UP.
WE'VE GOT MR. LARKIN AND MR. YANO PAIS.
UM, GIVE YOU 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT.
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MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBER OF STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, SOUTH EAST LANE BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.CAN YOU PULL UP THE PRESENTATION WITH ME THIS MORNING IS AMMA CARA FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND WE HAVE, UH, MATTHEW PENDER AND ANI.
THEY ARE FROM THE FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
THEY ARE THE NONPROFIT PTA THAT SUPPORTS SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, NOT ONLY FOR THIS APPLICATION, BUT FOR ANOTHER OFFICE BUILDING CLOSE BY.
UM, WE'RE COMING HERE TODAY WITH A, A GREAT GROUND FLOOR TENANT FOR YOU ALL.
CONSIDER, AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISCLOSE TO YOU ALL THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO A SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH THE FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
UH, WE'VE DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY FOR OUR PRIOR APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY AND FOR OUR NEW OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO THE WEST.
SO THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM OF SUMMA AND ANA AND, UH, BUSY AND PARTNERS.
THEY HAVE JOINED TOGETHER TO BRING THIS, UH, INCREDIBLE BUILDING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW IT, BUT IT WAS LIKE A VACANT 20% BUILT SUBTERRANEAN GARAGE HAD BEEN EXCAVATED, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER WENT BANKRUPT.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HOTEL.
SO THEY CAME IN AND TRIED TO FIT AN OFFICE BUILDING ON TOP OF AN EXISTING FOUNDATION.
IT WAS TORTURE, TOUGH
AND NOW THEY'RE POPULATING THE BUILDING WITH DIFFERENT TENANTS.
AND THIS IS THE GROUND FLOOR TENANT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
SO THIS IS A WORK PRODUCT OF DISNEY PARTNERS.
I WORKED WITH THEM ON 87 PARK, ALONG WITH A TERRA GROUP, DAVID MARTIN, AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR HIGHRISES TO THE RIGHT.
THIS IS A WORK PRODUCT OF SAMAD AND CORONA.
AGAIN, ELEGANT OFFICE BUILDINGS, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARE A GENIUS AT DOING.
THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS SITUATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND FIFTH STREET.
IT'S IN THE CCPS TWO ZONING DISTRICT.
AGAIN, IT HAS A CCPS TWO LAND USE DESIGNATION AND CCPS TWO ZONING.
WE OBTAINED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR MECHANICAL PARKING.
AND SAME YEAR WE OBTAINED A DESIGN APPROVAL FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
THIS IS OUR WORLD FAMOUS ARCHITECT, THE SPANISH ARCHITECT THAT DESIGNED THE OFFICE BUILDING.
I, I'M PROUD TO SAY I WORKED WITH HIM.
HE'S A GENIUS AND JUST HE'S GONNA BRING, WHEN YOU ALL SEE THE FINISHED PRODUCT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE REALLY PROUD.
THIS IS SOME RENDERINGS OF IT FROM DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINTS.
THIS IS THE HISTORIC BUILDING THAT'S SITUATED IN THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY CLOSER TO FOURTH STREET.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UH, MAINTAIN IT.
OF COURSE, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO SO.
IT'S GONNA, UH, HAVE A CAFE FOR THE OVERFLOW SEATING 'CAUSE THE RESTAURANT IS GONNA BE VERY POPULAR WE THINK.
AND JUST LIKE IN GOTHAM BAR AND GRILL IN NEW YORK, NORTH OF UNION SQUARE, THEY HAVE A CASUAL SEATING AREA AND THEY HAVE A FORMAL SEATING AREA.
WE EXPECT THIS MIGHT OPERATE IN THE SAME FASHION.
JUST A VIEW FROM, UH, MICHIGAN LOOKING EASTWARD.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE ALLEY LOOKING WESTWARD.
SO OF COURSE, JUST SLIDES WITH A PRIOR APPLICATION.
THERE IS A DISTANCE SPACING REQUIREMENT BETWEEN, UH, OUR USE AND SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S TRIGGERING THE VARIANCE.
ONE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOUNDARY AND THE CAFE, AND THEN ONE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL PROPERTY LINE AND THE RESTAURANT SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH.
AND AGAIN, IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE STANDARD, IT'S EITHER HARDSHIP STANDARD OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY THE WAY IT IS IN MIAMI BEACH.
WE'RE SUCH A DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S VERY HARD TO SEPARATE RESTAURANTS FROM ADJACENT SCHOOLS OR OTHER INSTITUTIONAL USES.
WE'RE ALL KIND OF CRAMMED TOGETHER IN SOUTH BEACH.
WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SPACE THAT YOU HAVE IN MID BEACH, WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SO WELL SEGREGATED.
UH, SO HERE OUR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY IS JUST THE DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENT OF SOUTH BEACH.
AMBROSE IS A FAMOUS, FAMOUS, UH, ITALIAN RESTAURANT, ORIGINATED MILAN IS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
IT'S A BAKERY, IT'S A COFFEE BAR.
IT'S GONNA BE OPEN, UH, STARTING AT 8:00 AM AND CLOSING AT TWO A 2:00 AM.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY FUNCTIONING IN PALM BEACH.
AGAIN, IT'S A, EVERYWHERE THEY GO, THEY TRY TO DO THE UTMOST IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND SERVICE AND, AND THE AESTHETICS.
THEY'VE MADE THE PAPERS IN EVERY SINGLE CITY THEY'VE BEEN IN.
IT GETS IN VOGUE, OR IT GETS IN THE NEW YORK MAGAZINE.
THEY ARE TRULY A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH.
UH, THIS IS JUST THE MENU I ALWAYS TELL.
LOOK AT IT, IT GETS ME A LITTLE BIT HUNGRY NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY.
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COMBINED FLOOR PLAN OF THE RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE OFFICE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.AND THEN YOU SEE A SMALLER FLOOR PLAN OF THE CAFE THAT'S IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE BLOW UP OF THE RESTAURANT SEATING.
AGAIN, GROUND FLOOR OF THE RESTAURANT ON THE, OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THIS IS FOR THE MEZZANINE AREA.
UH, IT'S A VERY SMALL SEATING AREA, THE MEZZANINE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THIS IS THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE AGREE WITH, UH, STAFF'S CONDITION ABOUT ONLY THAT DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
ALCOHOL SHOULD ONLY BE SERVED WITH MEALS.
THIS IS OUR SUPPORT FROM, UH, THE INSTANCE SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH 'EM.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED A WARM RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
AND THE ONLY TWO CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE ASKED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MODIFY IS THE SEAT COUNT.
AS ROGELIO DESCRIBED, WE'RE STILL FORMULATING IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOOSE, BUT WE HAD ASKED FOR A MAXIMUM OF TWO 60 RATHER THAN 2 35.
AND THEN WHILE WE'RE NOT INTENDING ON SELLING MINI PACKAGED GOODS FROM THE CAFE, IT WAS THE TENNIS PLAN TO SELL PROS, SECO, AND WINE ON OCCASION.
NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT WHEN YOU USE THE TERM PACKAGED GOODS, THAT PROHIBITS EVERYTHING.
AND WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA SELL A SICK PACK OF BEER OR NOTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE OCCASIONALLY FROM THE CAFE AREA TO SELL TWO PATRONS BOTTLES OF WINE OR PER SECO.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MODIFICATIONS WE'RE REQUESTING.
UH, THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO HEAR FROM OUR CLIENT.
AMIT, HE'S AN ELOQUENT SPEAKER.
HE'S MORE PASSIONATE THAN I AM, AND HE TALKS MORE THAN I DO, BUT I'VE TOLD HIM TWO MINUTES, SO GO AHEAD.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE, HE HAS TO BE SWORN IN.
OKAY, SIR, UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, IT WILL BE.
I'M A FOUNDING PARTNER AT SUMIDA AND ANA WITH MY PARTNER, SAFE SUMIDA.
ALONGSIDE OUR PARTNERS, DAVID DEI, ALESSANDRO, RO AND S FROM AND LY, WE ARE DEVELOPING THE FIFTH AND OFFICE BUILDING AT FOUR 11 MICHIGAN AVENUE.
WHEN I FIRST VISITED THE SITE WITH MY PARTNER, ALESSANDRO PALERO, IT WAS AN ABANDONED FULLY EXCAVATED LOT THAT HAD BEEN, I WAS FILLED WITH DIRTY WATER, A LITERAL SWAMP ON MIAMI BEACH.
UM, FOR THOSE WHO LIVED, THERE WAS AN ABSOLUTE EYESORE.
UH, AND IT HAD BEEN FOR MANY YEARS.
UH, YET WHEN WE SAW IT, WE WERE FILLED WITH ENTHUSIASM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF, OF WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP.
WE ENVISIONED CREATING AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE, UM, DESIGNED BY ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPING AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH DESIGN, PEDIGREE, QUALITY, UM, AND, AND CRAFTSMANSHIP.
UNLIKE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN, IN FLORIDA, OR PERHAPS EVEN THE UNITED STATES, CATERING TO A, A SOPHISTICATED CLIENTELE THAT WE DEVELOP PROJECTS FOR IN NEW YORK, ITALY, TURKEY, AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.
BEFORE CONSIDERING WHO THE ARCHITECTS WOULD BE, UM, WE DISCUSSED HOW EXTRAORDINARY IT WOULD BE FOR SAND AMBROSE TO BE THE RESTAURANT OPERATOR AT THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE, THE ITALIAN RESTAURANT OPENED IN MILAN, UH, IN THE 1950S AND, AND HAS JUST BEEN ONE OF OUR FAVORITES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, WE GENERALLY EAT AT THEIR LOCATIONS, BE IT NEW YORK, THE HAMPTONS, MILAN, ASPEN, UH, AND PALM BEACH MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.
UM, AND, UH, THE EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY OF THEIR FOOD, THE IMPECCABLE SERVICE AND THE CHEEK DECOR, UM, OF THE RESTAURANTS, THEY EMBODY AN UNDERSTATED ELEGANCE THAT THAT'S, THAT HAVE ATTRACTED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MOST, UH, COSMOPOLITAN OF PATRONS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND, AND FRANKLY, OUR TENANTS, WHICH, WHICH IS I THINK WHAT'S CRITICAL HERE.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT SITE VISIT, WE COMMISSIONED, UM, THE MASTER ARCHITECT, ALBERTO CAMPO BZA, UH, AND THE CELEBRATED INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE FIRM, GINI SHEPHERD, UH, TO DESIGN A TIMELESS BUILDING, WHICH IS, IS, IT'S ALMOST A, A JEWEL BOX.
IT'S KIND OF AN EXQUISITE JEWEL BOX.
AFTER WE RECEIVED APPROVALS, WE RETURNED, UH, BACK TO OUR VISION OF COLLABORATING WITH SAM BROS.
AND WE WERE REALLY FORTUNATE TO DEVELOP A, A LOVELY, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
AND WE WERE THRILLED WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY AGREED TO COME TO THE BUILDING.
AND, AND WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEGUN OUR COLLABORATION, AND I THINK WE, WE REALLY SHARE THE, THE SAME VALUES AND, AND THE SAME SORT OF PRINCIPLES AS IT RELATES TO JUST OUR LOVE OF QUALITY AND, AND, UM, AND, AND EXCELLENCE, BE IT CRAFT OR CUISINE.
UM, AS WE'VE DEVELOPED THE RELATIONSHIP, OUR, OUR BUILDING HAS DEVELOPED AND WE'VE ACTUALLY JUST TOPPED OFF.
AND THE FACADES GOING TO BEGIN, UH, BEING INSTALLED IN, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
WE'LL BE COMPLETING IN THE SPRING, UM, SITTING IN
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FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY.IT, IT ACTUALLY, IT FEELS LIKE, UM, LIKE I'M, WE'RE COMING FULL CIRCLE.
UM, AND, AND, AND MOVING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, JUST I THINK, UH, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THESE, THESE SORT OF, UH, EXQUISITE, UH, YOU KNOW, MEESE SPECIALTIES FOR LUNCH WHEN IT'S COMPLETED.
UM, BUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, SAND BRO DOES HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION TO FULLY OPERATE.
UH, AND THAT MEANS ALLOWING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR DINERS TO BE ABLE TO, TO DRINK ALCOHOL.
UM, WE'D BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CONSIDERATION, UM, IN IMPROVING THIS.
AND I'M CERTAIN THAT THE RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH WILL FEEL THE SAME, UM, WHEN DINING AT THE RESTAURANT OR BRINGING THEIR, THEIR CHILDREN FOR DELICIOUS PASTRIES AND GELATO AT THE, UH, GELADA, UH, PASTRY CAFE THAT, UH, THAT THEY'LL ALSO OPERATE AT THE, UH, PROPERTY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU MR. LARKIN.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYBODY ON ZOOM? WE HAVE MATTHEW PENDER.
YOU WANNA SWEAR? SWEAR IN IN MR. ATTORNEY, PLEASE.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
I'M GONNA SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
I LIVE SOUTH OF, I, I LIVE SOUTH OF FIFTH.
I'VE BEEN HERE, UM, 15 YEARS OR SO IN SOUTH OF FIFTH.
UM, I HAVE TWIN BOYS WHO ARE IN THE FIFTH GRADE AT SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS THE, THE SCHOOL IN QUESTION.
UM, AND I HAVE A 12-YEAR-OLD WHO'S A GRADUATE AT SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE, UH, A BOARD MEMBER OF THE FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
AND I WAS FORMALLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY.
WHAT OUR FOUNDATION DOES IS WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT IS THAT IN THE STATE OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS AMONG, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO PER STUDENT PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING IS AMONG THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY.
SO WE TRY TO FILL THOSE FUNDING GAPS.
UH, MR. ASION HAD HAD BROUGHT UP A PHRASE, UM, LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR BEFORE.
I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THAT SUMIT AND ANA ARE NOT A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
SO WHEN THEY STARTED LOOKING AT THIS BUILDING, UM, THEY CAME PROACTIVELY TO US TO SEE LIKE HOW THEY COULD HELP, HOW THEY COULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THIS IS BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVEN ANY, ANY GROUND WAS EVEN BROKEN THERE.
UM, IF YOU GO ALONG MICHIGAN AVENUE, IF YOU HAD GONE ALONG THERE, SAY THREE YEARS AGO, YOU WOULD'VE SEEN A DIRT PATCH THERE WHERE KIDS WOULD GO OUT THERE AND RUIN THEIR, THEIR PANTS EVERY DAY.
WHEN IT WAS, WHEN IT WAS RAINY, IT WAS A MUD BOG.
WHEN IT WAS SUNNY, IT WAS JUST CLOUDS OF DIRT.
TODAY WE HAVE A, A SOCCER FIELD THERE, AN ARTIFICIAL TURK, SO TURF SOCCER FIELD WORTH A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE MONEY IS BECAUSE GREAT NEIGHBORS AND GREAT FRIENDS, UM, LIKE THESE DEVELOPERS PARTNERED WITH US AND INSPIRED OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING A RESIDENT OF SOUTH OF FIFTH I, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE, UH, THIS RESTAURANT, LET'S DO ANOTHER MINUTE IN THERE.
I ALSO FAITH FIRST STREET, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'LL FINISH UP.
I COULD NOT IMAGINE WHERE I LIVE, LIVING ON THE STREET AND NOT HAVING MELOS OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR WHERE I LIVE AT THE COURTS IN SOUTH BEACH.
I THINK THIS WILL BRING THE SAME ELEMENT TO FIFTH STREET AND TO FOURTH STREET.
AND I THINK PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT TYPE OF RESTAURANT AND WHAT THAT TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT CAN DO FOR A COMMUNITY.
AND SO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BAR HERE.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE A HIGH-END ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS GOING TO LIFT BALL BOATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, TURN IT OVER.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN MR. PENDO.
ANY, ANY, ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ZOOM OR IN PERSON? I SEE NO OTHERS.
OH, WE HAVE ONE IN PERSON, SIR.
UM, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.
YOU WANNA SWEAR IN? MR. ATTORNEY, DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
AND I'LL SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES.
MARK HASKINS, I AM ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE SOFTNESS ASSOCIATION.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, SANTA AMBROSE.
UM, OUR MEMBERS HAVE REVIEWED THE PLANS.
UH, WE THINK IT'S A A, A GREAT ADDITION.
UH, WE LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, FIFTH STREET ALONE, IT'S BEEN RUN DOWN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
IT'S KINDA LIKE THE GATEWAY TO THE SOUTH OF FIFTH AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE SOUTH BEACH AREA ITSELF.
UH, I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OLD PIER ONE WILL ACTUALLY START, YOU KNOW, REVIVING
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FIFTH STREET AGAIN.UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A, A WELCOME ADDITION.
UM, AND I'M HERE JUST TO, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, THE ENTIRE SOFTER BOARD SUPPORTS THIS AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN.
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? I DID.
HE WAS HERE AT THE BEGINNING, SO HE'S FINE.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? AND GO AHEAD? UH, TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU BOARD FOR HAVING MY NAME.
I, UM, UM, A MEMBER OF THE FRANCIS OF SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY BOARD AS WELL.
I HAVE TWO KIDS AT SOUTH POINT ELEMENTARY, UM, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AHMED AND THE ST GROUP.
WE BELIEVE THE ADDITION IS WELCOMING IN THE COMMUNITY.
MY SUPPORTING LOCAL RESTAURANTS IS VITAL TO FOSTERING A STRONG, VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
AND ONE DOWN IN THIS AREA IS SAINT A BRO.
AND, UM, IT'S FRIENDLY STAFF IN WARM ATMOSPHERE MAKE IT A WELCOMING SPOT FOR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND SO DERS ALIKE.
UH, BY CHOOSING TO DINE AT SAINT A BROS, WE'RE HELPING SUSTAIN LOCAL JOBS, PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND MAINTAIN THE UNIQUE CHARM THAT MAKES, UM, OUR COMMUNITY'S SPECIAL.
UM, MYSELF AND THESE, UH, FRIENDS OF SIDE POINT, UM, UM, FOUNDATION SUPPORTS LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE SAN BRO THAT CAN GIVE BACK IN SO MANY WAYS.
AND MIKE, YOU DOZA ALSO PART OF, UH, FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT, AND I JUST SECONDED WHAT BETO SAID.
I WON'T TAKE A MUCH MORE TIME.
WAIT, UH, WERE YOU SWORN IN? WERE YOU AT THE BEGINNING? I WAS SWORN IN, YES.
I JUST SECOND WHAT BETO SAYS, AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT FRIENDS OF SOUTH POINT AND, UH, ALSO REPRESENTING MY DAUGHTER WHO LOVES THAT RESTAURANT, AND SHE'S SUPER ECSTATIC THAT, UH, SHE CAN GET TREATS THERE GOING FORWARD.
SO I WON'T TAKE MUCH MORE TIME.
UH, ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENT LAST CHANCE? OKAY.
WE'RE NOT SEEING NO ONE, NO ONE ON ZOOM.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO OUR BOARD FOR QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
UH, MR. NAGGER? YEAH, ONE QUESTION AND NO, NO, UH, BEEF WITH NOT SENDING A LETTER.
IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP IS THERE AT THIS TIME.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, THIS, UH, I GUESS PROPOSED AMENDED ORDER.
IS THAT THE PROPER WAY TO DESCRIBE IT? UM, PARAGRAPH, MAYBE IT'S B FIVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION FOR WINE AND PROSECCO, THE WAY IT'S WORDED, I'M NOT CLEAR IF THE WINE IN PROSECCO WOULD BE, UM, ALSO IS, IS IT, IS THAT ONLY AN EXCEPTION TO THE NO PACKAGE OF SALE OF PACKAGED GOODS, OR IS THAT ALSO AN EXCEPTION TO THE NO SALE OF ALCOHOL DURING SCHOOL HOURS WITHOUT A MEAL? IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME THE WAY IT'S WORDED.
MEANING COULD YOU SERVE WINE AT PROSECCO WITHOUT A MEAL DURING SCHOOL HOURS? THE WAY I WOULD READ THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL, UM, WINE AND PROSECCO FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
IS THAT, IS THAT THE INTENT? IS THAT THE INTENT? I MEAN, THAT THAT'S HOW YOU'RE, UH, READING, IS THAT THE INTENT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE MODIFICATION.
I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE INTENT IS HERE.
SO IT'S MEANT ONLY TO MODIFY THE SECOND SENTENCE AND THE SUBJECT OF THE SECOND SENTENCE IS THE SALE OF PACKAGED GOODS.
SO IT SAYS CREATE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT MAIN SUBJECT OF THE SECOND SENTENCE.
SO, SO THIS IS NOT MAKING EXCEPTION TO THE, UH, NOT TO THE FIRST SENTENCE TO THE, TO THE CORRECT ALCOHOL WITH MEALS.
AND THAT'S ON THE RECORD THEN, BECAUSE MM-HMM.
SO CLARIFY, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF WE SPLIT THAT, THAT CONDITION INTO TWO, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT BEEN CLARIFIED ON THE RECORD BY COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S SUBJECT TO, UM, DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION BASED ON WHAT WE JUST OBSERVED.
I THINK, I THINK FOR CLARITY, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN SPLIT THAT THERE SHALL BE NO SALE OF PACKAGED GOODS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WINE AND PROSECCO, AND MAKE THAT A SEP ITS OWN STANDALONE CONDITION.
THAT WAY THERE'S NO, NO CONFUSION THERE.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ARE YOU SAYING PROSECCO, YOU REALLY MEAN PROSECCO? YOU MEAN SPARKLY WINE.
'CAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, I WANNA KNOW WHY YOU WERE BEING RACIST TO CHAMPAGNE.
UM, I'M JUST, YOU MIGHT, I DIDN'T KNOW TO THE COUNTRY OF FRANCE.
SO
I HOPE MY FRENCH CLIENTS ARE NOT WATCHING IN KA UPSET
UM, WELL, I, I JUST WANNA SAY I, I'M GRATEFUL THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE CHOSEN TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE, YOU'RE ELEVATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M ALSO A SOUTH OF FAITH RESIDENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE AES STEFAN'S NEXT DOOR ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING UPSET.
YOU OVERSHADOWING, UH, THEIR BUILDING WAS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
NOW, NOW YOUR BUILDING MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST A RANDOM BUILDING.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GORGEOUS BUILDING, GORGEOUS ROOFTOP.
YOU KNOW, MILOS IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE
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ELEGANT, YOU KNOW, FINE DINING RESTAURANT PARTY SOUTH OF FIFTH.AND NOW YOU'RE ADDING, UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ELEMENT TO THAT, WHICH IS, IS GREAT ALSO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE SAME ON ALTON AND, AND FIFTH.
UM, AND, AND IT WILL BE GREAT.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, TO PROJECTS LIKE THIS ELEVATING OUR CITY.
WELL, NO, UM, I GOT A QUESTION.
UM, DO YOU SERVE, UM, WINE AND PROSECCO IN OTHER LOCATIONS TOO? SO IS THAT LIKE, KIND OF PUT, OR, OR YEAH,
CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH.
AND CHAMPAGNE TOO, BY THE WAY, THAT WAY.
I MEAN IT JUST AS IN ANY RESTAURANT, BUT, BUT SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY HAVE PACKAGED GOODS, THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROSECCO AND, UH, THIS IS JUST A, A, AN ITEM THAT THEY, THEY, UH, BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO THE WEBSITE, IT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT THE MENU.
IT DIDN'T SHOW THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE, YOU KNOW, WINE TO TAKE OUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF ASKING THE QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER LOCATIONS BECAUSE IN, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE, UM, SOME, SOMETIMES THEY SELL GOODS, SO IF YOU GO TO A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE WEBSITE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SELL, UM, OLIVE OIL AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A VERY, YOU KNOW, I THINK FAIRLY INNOCENT.
UH, IT'S JUST THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BRANDED, UH, KIND OF.
AND, AND I, I WANT TO ECHO, I WANNA MISS ESON SAID, YOU KNOW, I DROVE, I DROVE THE LOCATION YESTERDAY, I WALKED IT.
AND UM, YEAH, FIFTH STREET IS SO IMPORTANT COMING IN FROM MIAMI AND IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVESTMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND TRUSTING A PLEASURE AND MIAMI BEACH, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN.
I, I THINK I DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC.
I, I CLOSED, CLOSED, PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'VE FORGOT IF I CLOSE OR NOT.
SAY IT JUST IN CASE, UM, WITHOUT, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.
AND, AND I PROMISE MR. NGEL, I WILL DO BETTER OUTREACH TO ALL PARTIES IN THE FUTURE.
IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD HELP IF YOU BRING SAMPLES, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THOSE PICTURES.
WE CAN OLIVE OIL, HAVE 'EM AFTER PROSECCO AND CHAMPAGNES.
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UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS, NO APPEALS, UH, NO OTHER BUSINESS.OUR NEXT MEETING'S GONNA BE NOVEMBER 1ST.
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LONGER ONE.
WE HAVE TWO APPEALS ON NOVEMBER 1ST AND THREE APPLICATIONS.
SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ALLOCATE ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT.
THE APPEALS COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UM, ANY OTHER GOOD AND WELFARE? ANYTHING MR. MADDEN OR ANYONE ON THE BOARD? NOPE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.