* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TODAY, UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. WE ALSO HAVE A HARD STOP AT TWO 30 DUE TO ANOTHER MEETING FOLLOWING THIS. UM, AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LIO TO GO OVER THE AGENDA. OKAY? SO GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, BUDDY. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. UM, ALL SIX MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. UM, AND, UH, AND IF WE CAN MOVE ON WELL TO THE CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES. SORRY. IT'S ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT THE CITY MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANTS STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR. IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS A TOLL FREE NUMBER. AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. NOW, BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE THAT WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATIONS. IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IN THREE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES. FIRST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY. SECOND, IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING. THIRD, IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSING, WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING. IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST THIS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. UM, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SWEAR IN THOSE WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY. UH, IF YOU'RE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, AND THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE SWORN IN ONE, ONE BY ONE AT, AT THE TIME OF THEIR PRESENTATION. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, YOU MAY EVERYONE, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A FEW REQUESTS [2. DRB24-1040, 1500 BAY ROAD.] FOR CONTINUANCES, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO START WITH THOSE. MADAM CHAIR? YEP. OKAY. SO THE FIRST ONE IS DRB 24 10 40, THAT'S 1500 BAY ROAD. UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, IS WORKING OUT SOME, SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, UM, OTHER, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING. AND SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM, UH, BE CONTINUED TO THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING. UM, SO IF WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER A SECOND. OKAY. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM [3. DRB24-1038, 1265 NORTH BISCAYNE POINT ROAD.] IS, UM, UH, DRB 24 DASH 10 38. THAT'S 1265 NORTH BISCAYNE POINT ROAD. UM, THIS IS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ALSO THE SAME TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 10TH, 2024. MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. AND THEN WE [8. DRB24-1031, 4701 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE, UPH 21.] RECEIVED ONE MORE REQUEST LAST NIGHT. UH, THAT'S FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THAT'S DRB 24 DASH 10 31 47 0 1 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE, PENTHOUSE UNIT 21. UM, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING. MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. SECOND. OKAY. UH, I'LL DO IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, SO MOVING ON TO THE, UM, REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT A HUNDRED. IF YOU CAN READ THE TITLE. UM, NUMBER FOUR, YES, WEST AVENUE. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY [00:05:01] FOR THE AREAS GENERALLY BOUND BY EIGHTH STREET TO THE SOUTH COLONIES CANAL TO THE NORTH, JUST WEST OF ALTON ROAD TO THE WEST, AND BISQUE BAY TO THE EAST, INCLUDING ALL SITES STREETS IN BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS A FILE NUMBER DB 2 1 0 7 0 4. SPECIFICALLY THE MODIFICATION IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A STREET LIGHTING AND GENERATOR SCREENING. OKAY. SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR ACTUALLY [1. After Action October 1, 2024] HELIO, I THINK WE FORGOT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OH, I APOLOGIZE. YOU ARE CORRECT. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER, 2024 MEETING. SECOND. SECOND BY MS. LI. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. OKAY. SO, UH, BACK TO [4. DRB24-1050, WEST AVENUE PHASE II RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS.] DRB 24 DASH 10 50. UM, THIS IS RELATED TO THE WEST AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS. IT, IT INVOLVES A, A SLEW OF IMPROVEMENTS, WEST AVENUE, RAISING THE ROAD, DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, UM, LANDSCAPING AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. UH, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE DRB UM, IN 2022. JUNE OF 2022. THE DRB AT THAT TIME SAID THAT EVERYTHING IS APPROVED EXCEPT THE GENERATOR SCREENING AND THE LIGHTING. AND THE DRB REQUESTED THAT THE GENERATOR SCREENING AND THE LIGHTING COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD ONCE THAT WAS, UH, FULLY DETAILED. SO BEFORE YOU ARE TWO SETS OF PLANS. ONE SET OF PLANS IS FOR THE LIGHTING. UM, THE LIGHTING, UM, IS INTENDED TO BE OF, UH, CONTEMPORARY DESIGN WITH ROUND TAPERED POLES, FLARED EDGES, STOP BASE HOUSING FIX, UH, FIXTURES. PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING WILL CONSIST OF PULSON FIXTURES, UH, WITH FLAT MOLDED FIBERGLASS SHADE TOPS. UM, AND THOSE FIXTURES, THE POLES ARE BLACK, CONSISTENT WITH LIGHTING INSTALLED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE LIGHTING. AND THEN FOR THE PUMP STATIONS, UM, THERE'S THREE PUMP STATIONS. UM, ONE OF 'EM IS LOCATED AT 14TH STREET. THAT'S PUMP STATION 33 2 AT 17TH STREET. THAT'S PUMP STATIONS 27 AND 28. UM, THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BE, UH, LANDSCAPES AROUND THE, UH, AROUND THE GENERATOR STATION IS THE, THE, THE, THE SCREENING OF THE GENERATORS IS WHAT HAD TO COME BACK. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING LANDSCAPING THE SCREEN, THE GENERATORS, UM, USING SIMPSON STOPPERS TREES. UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE SCREENING AND, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. AND THE APPLICANTS WILL HAVE MORE, UH, MORE TO SHOW. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOSE CAR I WITH CES CONSULTANTS AND WITH ME IS SERGIO WILLIAMS OF CES CONSULTANTS. AND WE'RE THE DESIGNERS ON THE WEST AVENUE PROJECT. SO I GUESS WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO THIS, UM, PRESENTATION. THERE WE GO. SCROLL, GO NEXT. SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION SINCE THIS IS A A REVISIT. UM, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT BRIEF. WE WANT TO LOOK, SHOW YOU THE LOCATIONS OF BOTH THE LIGHTING FIXTURES AND THE, UM, GENERATORS. AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED RENDERINGS. UM, SO YOU CAN HAVE VISUAL OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND JUST THE MATERIALS. IT'LL BE RELATIVELY QUICK HOPEFULLY. WHY IS IT GOING BACKWARDS? OH, THIS WAY. SO THE PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SLIGHTLY SHRUNK. 'CAUSE OF BUDGET IS BUDGETARY REASONS. IT'S BOUND BY LINCOLN ROAD. AND THEN WE SCROLL UP TO 17TH A BIT, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO COLLINS CANAL, THE BAY TO THE WEST, ALTON TO THE, TO THE EAST, SAME AS IT, IT JUST SHRANK AT THE BOTTOM. IT'S ACTUALLY ACTUALLY LIMITED ON THIS PHASE TO 14TH STREET. NOW THE LIGHTING WILL BE ALL THROUGHOUT WEST AND BAY. AND THEN THE GENERATORS, UM, ARE ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO AT 14TH. THERE'S TWO EXISTING PUMP STATIONS AT 14TH. AND WE'RE GONNA ADD BACKUP GENERATORS TO EACH ONE OF THOSE PUMP STATIONS FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. AND THEN THERE'S ONE EXISTING PUMP STATION AT 17TH STREET AT THAT TRIANGULAR PARK. AND WE'RE ADDING A GENERATOR FOR, UH, EMERGENCY PURPOSES THERE. UM, SO WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT. THIS IS 14TH STREET BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE 14TH STREET AND THE BAY. THERE'S A LITTLE PARK IN THERE. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PUMP STATIONS LOCATED THERE. UM, IN THIS DRAWING, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH THERE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PARK. WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING IN THIS DARKER AREA, THE TWO GENERATORS. NOW THEY DO HAVE TO BE SIDE BY SIDE INSTEAD OF ONE LARGE ONE JUST BECAUSE THE LARGE ONE WAS REALLY, REALLY BIG AND OBSTRUCTIVE. UM, AND SO WE'RE PUTTING 'EM SIDE BY SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE'RE SURROUNDING IT WITH THESE, UM, SIMPSON [00:10:01] STOPPER TREES. AND WE DID, OR WE WILL ADJUST THE SIDEWALK, I APOLOGIZE, ADJUST THE SIDEWALK. UM, BECAUSE IT, THE GENERATORS TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE GENERATOR'S WAY. AND ALSO ONE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT INSIDE THE PARK THAT HELPS ILLUMINATE THE PARK. WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE GENERATORS. 'CAUSE IF NOT, WE'D BLOCK IT, BASICALLY MAKE IT USE, RENDER IT USELESS. UM, SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT THE PARK LOOKS LIKE STANDING AT THE STREET END. AND YOU SEE, UH, LIKE IN THE BIT OF THE DISTANCE YOU SEE THOSE HANDRAILS AND ALL THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE GENERATOR, I MEAN THE EXISTING PUMP STATION PLATFORM IS AT THE ELECTRICAL PLATFORM. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE ALL THOSE, THAT LITTLE FORESTED AREA THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE THE FULL GROWN SIMPSON STOPPERS AROUND THE TWO GENERATORS. AND ON THE RIGHT IT'S THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT. SO YOU'RE FACING TOWARDS THE BAY. SO IT'LL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OR ON THE RIGHT SIDE. UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY GROWN. WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THESE GENERATORS AT ALL. NOW 17TH STREET HAS ONE PUMP STATION AT THAT TRIANGULAR PARK BETWEEN THE COLLINS CANAL AND 17TH AND, AND WEST AND THE PUMP STATIONS ON THE WEST SIDE. WE'RE PLANNING TO PUT THE GENERATOR EXACTLY LIKE YOU SEE IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TRIANGULAR PARK. AND SAME FUNCTION, SORRY, WRONG DIRECTION, SAME FUNCTION. THIS IS THE PARK HOW IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. AND YOU SEE WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE LIKE A LITTLE FOREST AROUND THE AROUND THE GENERATOR TO, TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN IT. UM, AND AGAIN, IT'LL ADD TREES TO THE AREA. I GUESS YOU CAN, IT'LL ADD TREES TO THE AREA, BUT IT REALLY ADDS COVERAGE TO THIS, UM, GENERATOR. NOW WITH REGARDS TO THE STREETLIGHTS, UH, WE CAME BACK BECAUSE THE DRB WHEN WE CAME IN 2022 ASKED US TO VALIDATE THE STREETLIGHTS FOR, FOR COHESIVENESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT. AND DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LIGHTS. SO WE ACTUALLY, THIS IS AN ACTUAL CORNER STREET CORNER THAT'S EXISTING 14TH AND, AND WEST AVENUE HAS THE OLD STREET STREETLIGHTS OF THE NEW STREETLIGHTS BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THEY HAD DONE 14TH STREET FROM THE BAY TO ALTON AND THEY ADDED THOSE STREETLIGHTS AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT. AND WE'LL ZOOM INTO 'EM A LITTLE MORE. BUT ON ACTUAL WEST, ON THE LEFT IS THE OLD SILVER COBRA HEADS. SO THIS IS AN ACTUAL, THIS ISN'T A RENDERING, THIS IS AN ACTUAL STREET CORNER THAT HAS BOTH STYLES. AND WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IN THIS IS TO USE THE ONES THAT THEY USED ON 14TH STREET TO MAKE ALL OF WEST AND BAY COHESIVE WITH 14TH AND WITH 10TH THAT WERE THESE LIGHTS WERE USED ON. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS A BIT OF A ZOOMED IN THE EXISTING IS THAT CLASSIC SILVER. AND WE'RE USING THESE BLACK WITH THE LITTLE, LITTLE HATS ON TOP. UM, AND THEY ARE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, LIGHTING, UH, UNITS. SO GETTING INTO THE MATERIALS WE COVERED OR WE'RE GONNA, WE TALKED ABOUT THE GENERATORS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE USING, WE'RE SUGGESTING THESE SIMPSON STOPPERS, THEY'RE KIND OF BUSHY, THEY'RE A BIT OFF THE GROUND, BUT THEY REALLY PROVIDE A LOT OF COVERAGE. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THE FULLY GROWN MATURE ONE. AND ON THE RIGHT IS ONE FROM A NURSERY. UM, THE LIGHTS, SO THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS THAT GO ON THE SIDEWALK ARE GONNA BE THESE PAULSONS. UM, AND SO AGAIN, THEY'RE MATCHING EXACTLY WHAT WAS USED, WHAT PUBLIC WORKS INSTALLED ON 14TH STREET BETWEEN ALTON AND THE BAY AND ON 10TH STREET BETWEEN ALTON AND THE BAY. AND, AND, AND, AND THEN THIS IS THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT AGAIN. THIS IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SIGN IN THE BACK. ALTON, THIS IS ACTUALLY A REAL LIGHT, IT'S NOT A RENDERING. AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GONNA MIMIC THE, UH, SAME LIGHT THAT'S USED ON 14TH STREET. SO IT'LL MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WEST AVENUE NEIGHBORHOOD COHESIVE WITH THE LIGHTING. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL WE GOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ON THE PHONE? ANYONE ON ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT. I JUST WANNA ASK, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE LOOKING LIGHTS VERSUS THOSE SAUCER LIGHTS AND WHY NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE THOSE OLD FASHIONED LOOKING LIGHTS IN THE CITY. LIKE WHY CAN'T WE DO ALL THOSE SAUCER LOOKING LIGHTS? 'CAUSE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE TOO. WELL, I'M, I MEAN, I, WE WERE SIMPLY, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COHESIVE AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED ON 14TH. I MEAN, I GUESS PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD GO BACK AND REINSTALL THOSE. WHAT WE ARE THINKING FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW IS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE A WEST AND AND BAY ROAD SET OF LIGHTS AND THEN RIGHT AT 14TH CROSSING IT, THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT LIGHTS. IT'S JU THAT WAS OUR ONLY REASON FOR PICKING [00:15:01] THOSE. WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW HOW THIS DECISION ORIGINALLY WAS MADE TO DO THOSE. I DON'T KNOW, THOSE, THOSE OLD FASHIONED LOOKING LIGHTS VERSUS THE SAUCERS. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS WHY WE KEEP PERPETUATING THOSE WHEN THEY, THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO FIT ANY STYLE THAT WE HAVE. I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHEN, I THINK IN ON 14TH, ON ON 10TH THEY INSTALLED THEM BACK IN 2015 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. CAN WE MAKE SOME KIND OF MOTION TO NOT USE THOSE LIGHTS ANYMORE? YES. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, WHAT, CAN YOU BRING UP, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION PAGE 17? YEAH, OF COURSE. UM, AND THAT SHOWS, I THINK IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STREET THIS IS, MAYBE IT'S EIGHTH. UM, 'CAUSE IN THE FOREGROUND IS THE LIGHT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. BUT THEN IN THE BACKGROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALTON IS THIS VERY, I THINK LOVELY MODERN LIGHT FIXTURE THAT MIGHT BE PE WHAT YOU'RE GOING, IT'S PA WELL I THINK YOU'RE TALKING 17 IN THE PRESENTATION. UM, IT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHERE IT'S LIKE IN THE BACKGROUND. IS THAT MORE LIKE RIGHT HERE, THIS GUY? YES. I MEAN, WOULD THAT BE MORE YEAH, I MEAN OF THESE, THESE LIGHTS ARE, SORRY, BUT THEY'RE JUST RIDICULOUS IN THIS TOWN. WE HAVE NO ARCHITECTURE THAT IS EVEN CLOSE TO ANYTHING THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE WITH. I HAVE A QUESTION ON PAGE 16, THE PEDESTRIAN, SORRY, SAUCER LIGHT. IS THERE NOT AN OPTION FOR THIS LIGHT FIXTURE ON THE STREETLIGHT? I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND COHESIVENESS, I MEAN THAT MIGHT BE, THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION. ARE THOSE TALL LIGHTS REQUIRED? THEY ARE. SO THEY'RE FOR THE ACTUAL, SO THESE ARE FOR PEDESTRIANS? YEAH. ONES AND THE OTHER ONES ARE FOR THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. SO THEY EXTEND OVER AND THEY ILLUMINATE RIGHT ON THE ASPHALT. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. BUT I'M SAYING DIRECTION, LIKE TYPICALLY THE, WHEN, YOU KNOW, FIXTURES ARE DESIGNED, THERE'S A SERIES OF THEM. SO IT MIGHT BE LIKE THIS IS THE PEDESTRIAN OPTION AND THIS IS IN THE SAME LINE, THE TRAFFIC OPTION. BUT IS THAT NOT THE CASE WITH THIS? YEAH, IF I MAY IT, THIS, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, UH, THOSE ARE, OR THE, SORRY, THE STREET LIGHTS. THEY'RE DIRECTIONAL. THAT'S WHY THEY KIND OF HAVE THE, THAT SHAPE POINTING IT TOWARDS THE ROADWAY, UH, TO PREVENT THAT LIGHT SPILLING, UH, TO RESIDENTS INTO PEOPLE'S WINDOWS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, SO THAT MIGHT BE THE REASON WHY THE, THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT HAS THAT, UH, 360 KIND OF ANGLE TO IT WHERE THE STREET LIGHT CANNOT DO THAT. I MEAN, WE DON'T MIND LOOKING, WE DON'T MIND LOOKING INTO IT. THE MODERN ONE LIKE SARAH SAID THOUGH. WHY, WHY IS THAT NOT AN OPTION? I MEAN, I I SORRY. THE LINEAR ONE, THAT ONE IN THE BACKGROUND. YEAH, I MEAN IT, IT CAN BE AN OPTION. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MIMIC WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO WHY ARE WE USING THE OTHER, I MEAN, THAT'S OUT ON ALTON, BUT AGAIN, I MEAN FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I'D BE HAPPY TO. I MEAN, NOT REALLY I'LL PUT THAT WAY. NO, I MEAN I WAS, SCOTT AND I WERE BOTH ON THE BOARD YEAH. WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP. AND, AND I REMEMBER THAT THIS CONVERSATION AND I THINK THAT IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION WE WANTED TO GO IN WAS MORE MODERN MM-HMM. LESS, I DON'T KNOW, NANTUCKET LITTLE HOUSE ON THE FLOOR. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS, IT WAS THE OPPOSITE. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US YEAH. IS MORE OF WHAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME MORE MODERN, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING ALL THESE VERY MODERN BUILDINGS GOING UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. MM-HMM. . AND THAT CERTAINLY THAT WOULD JUST MAKE MORE SENSE AESTHETICALLY IF THAT'S AN OPTION. I, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST THE ENGINEERS AND THE CONTRACTORS. SO THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY THEY, IS THERE SOMEBODY PUBLIC WORKS? THEY COULD, I KNOW. UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT FIRST SAYING THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT. YEAH. CONSISTENT PART OF THAT OTHER THING. YEAH. IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING THAT THESE LIGHTS KEEP POPPING UP. CAN WE DO THIS IN ORDER OF, UM, IN, IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE FORWARD? CAN YOU MEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WITH OUR REQUEST? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE WITH OUR REQUEST OF THE BOARD, ASSUMING WE ALL TAKE A MOTION AND WE WE AGREE TO IT, UM, THAT YOU MEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ASK THEM IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO USE THE MORE, UM, MODERN, UH, STREET LIGHTING, UM, THAT REALLY CORRESPONDS MORE WITH THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING. MM-HMM. . AND IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY. AND SECOND, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM EXTENDING THAT MORE MODERN STREET AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING TO THE SIDE STREETS. THE FINGER STREETS. YEAH. UM, YEAH. AND IF, IF THAT'S A POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE OF MAINTENANCE ON THESE LIGHTS. MM-HMM. UH, STORAGE OF SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED. UM, SO, UM, YEAH, IF, IF IF THEY AGREE, THEN GREAT, WE MOVE FORWARD. IF THEY DON'T, THEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD NEED TO COME [00:20:01] BACK TO US AS DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. IF WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE. I DON'T SEE WHY EVEN COMING BACK TO US WOULD BE NECESSARY. I AGREE TO, TO PIGGYBACK ON, ARE YOU THE LIGHTING, JUST SO WE KNOW THE SCOPE, ARE YOU GOING, ARE ARE AS PART OF THE SCOPE OF YOUR PROJECT TO DO ALL OF THE LIGHTS ON WEST AVENUE AND ALL THE SIDE STREETS OR JUST 14TH? NO, NO, NO. IT'S, IT'S ALL OF WEST AVENUE, ALL OF BAY ROAD FROM 14TH TO LINCOLN. ALL OF LINCOLN AND THE SIDE STREETS HAVE YES. LIGHTS TO IT. AND ALL THE SIDE STREETS FROM LINCOLN FIFTH, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING RECTANGLE. BUT THE STREET THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IS ACTUALLY 14TH. OH, RIGHT. SO IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY CAN, UM, AND ARE, DO YOU KNOW, BY CHANCE IF THESE LIGHTS THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND THE, UM, TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT ARE MORE MODERN IF THEY'RE UTILIZED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE BEACH, UM, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REPAIR, MAINTAIN AND STORE THE SUPPLIES NECESSARY FOR THEM. I MEAN, I, I, I HONEST, I'LL BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR TO THAT. OKAY. BUT I, WE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING IN AND SPEAKING TO 'EM ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS, IS A PROJECT THAT SATISFIES THE CITY OKAY. AND ALL MEMBERS OF, OF THAT CITY. YEAH. AND THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST THAT IT JUST NEEDED TO BE CONSISTENT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT UP. THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTS. YEAH. UM, THAT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT BOTH FOR AESTHETIC BUT ALSO FOR MAINTENANCE. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BETTER POLICY TO HAVE THEM ALL BE THE SAME. UM, I WONDER. I THE, AND THE, UM, THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THE SCREENING, JUST IN GENERAL, AGAIN AS A POLICY QUESTION, DO YOU FIND, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, THAT, UM, MAINTENANCE MAINTAINING A TREE SCREENING IS EASIER THAN AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL, A PHYSICAL SCREENING SCREENING? AGAIN, THAT'S SO ON, ON THIS PROJECT, WE'RE DOING A PHYSICAL, LIKE STEEL, ALUMINUM, ALUMINUM SCREENING ON THE PUMP STATION GENERATOR AT AND THE, AND THE ELECTRICAL PANELS AT THE ACTUAL WEST FOR THE WEST AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THE OLD POST OFFICE PARKING LOT. YEAH. UM, BUT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTED US TO USE, YOU KNOW, SHRUBBERY ON THESE, I GUESS IT'S MAYBE INITIAL COST. I, I MEAN I DIDN'T GET TOO MUCH INTO IT. AND SARAH, THAT PARK IS BASICALLY TURNING INTO A GARAGE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GRASS NOW. OH. IT'S GOT SO MANY, SO MUCH EQUIPMENT IN IT. YEAH. IT'S GOT PUMPS AND IT'S GOT OTHER THINGS. SO I THINK THE SCREENING WITH TREES, THE TREES IS REALLY IMPORTANT. TREES. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY IMAGES OF THE SCREEN FOR THE OTHER GENERATOR THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT? BECAUSE I NOTICED IN THE PRESENTATION WE DON'T REALLY SEE ANY, AND I MEAN I WASN'T HERE IN 2022, BUT AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A SECTION OF THE CITY THAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED, BUT THE GOAL IS TO HOLISTICALLY HAVE AN APPROACH, RIGHT? YEP. AND I FEEL LIKE, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SORT OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR DIFFERENT, UH, INSTALLATIONS, RIGHT? SO AT CERTAIN CONDITIONS THERE IS THIS ALUMINUM SCREENING THAT YOU SAID, I WOULD ASSUME IT'S PERFORATED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. UM, IN ANOTHER AREA. THERE'S JUST LANDSCAPE. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN AND WHY DO WE DECIDE WHICH, UH, RESPONSE IS GARNERED, RIGHT? LIKE, 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR LANDSCAPE TO PROVIDE A BUFFER. SO THEN WHAT IS THAT ARCHITECTURAL APPROACH? I JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, UM, THIS AREA'S GETTING DONE AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AREA, BUT THEN THERE'S WHO'S EVER, I FEEL LIKE PUBLIC WORK SHOULD BE THE ONES PRESENTING THIS TO US SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LARGER ACCOUNTABILITY OF CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS PHASE EIGHT, THERE'S GONNA BE A 9, 10, 11, 12. RIGHT. AND YOU GUYS MAY OR MAY NOT BE INVOLVED TO IMPLEMENT IT CONSISTENTLY, OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAYBE YOU ARE GONNA DO ALL THE PHASES YOU ARE WELL, YOU'RE CORRECT. OF BOTH . SO, UM, THERE ARE MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE HAPPENING FOR THE NEXT I GUESS 30 YEARS. YEAH. 'CAUSE MIAMI BEACH IS LARGE AND IT, ALL THE AREAS NEED THESE UPGRADES. WITH REGARDS TO THE PUMP STATION SCREENING AT, AT THE ACTUAL R PUMP STATION, I DON'T HAVE IMAGES OF THAT TODAY HERE. THAT WAS UNDER A SEPARATE DRB NUMBER THAT WAS APPROVED BECAUSE IT'S IN A PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WE KIND OF SPLIT IT UP INTO THE PUMP STATION PARKING LOT WHERE IT TOOK A LOT OF FOCUS INTO REDOING THE PARKING LOT AND CAPTURE, RECAPTURING THAT PARKING AND THEN SCREENING ALL THOSE VERY LARGE COMPONENTS AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS THE LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING. AND THEN MM-HMM. , THESE MISCELLANEOUS GENERATORS, UH, FELL INTO IT. UM, BUT, BUT I DON'T MIND, I MEAN, I MEAN THEY'RE JUST VERY MUCH THE, THE, THE MORE THAT WE MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF OUR URBANISM [00:25:01] NOW. RIGHT. AND I THINK THE GOAL IS TO SAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT A MOMENT OF PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION, SO HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THE URBAN CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE WANT THAT POTENTIALLY CAN EVOLVE AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO EVOLVE? AND I DON'T KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR YOU GUYS. I'LL TELL YOU, I I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT IT DEPENDS WHERE THESE GENERATORS OR PUMP STATIONS ARE. YES. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A PUMP STATION ON 51ST AT THE INTERSECTION OF 51ST PINE TREE AND LAGOS DRIVE. AND TO PUT SCREENING THAT IS METAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE DIFFICULT. UM, OR DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. SO IT'S BUFFERED WITH TREES LANDSCAPING. MM-HMM. , THERE'S GOING TO BE GENERATORS AND PUMP STATIONS ON 63RD AND UH, PINE TREE DRIVE AND ALL OF THAT IS GOING UNDERGROUND. IT WILL TAKE THE EXACT AMOUNT OF SPACE OF THAT EMPTY LOT. ALL OF THAT WILL BE UNDERGROUND SO THAT THE UPPER AREA CAN REMAIN AS A OPEN, OPEN PARK. IT'S A CITY OWNED PROPERTY. SO I THINK IT DEPENDS ON ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRAFFIC AND THE, UM, SURROUNDINGS. I GUESS IF IT'S IN A PARK, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO PUT LANDSCAPING MM-HMM. SO THAT IT DOESN'T STAND OUT IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE DANGEROUS TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. UM, IF FOOTPRINT CONSTRAINTS ARE ANOTHER ONE. YEAH. MM-HMM. , UM, ANY WORD FROM PUBLIC WORKS? I'VE, I'M REACHING OUT, I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE PROJECT MANAGER AND I'LL, I'LL, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT PERHAPS, 'CAUSE I THINK WE, MAYBE WE CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT HERE. ANOTHER, WOULD YOU MIND WAITING? NO, I THINK THE ITEM CAN BE TABLED. PERHAPS YOU CAN GO REACH OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THE THEY'RE ON THE FOURTH FLOOR OR, OR CIP AND THE OTHER. I THINK CIP IS IN CHARGE OF THIS PROJECT. CIP IS IN CHARGE OF THIS PROJECT. YEAH. SO, UM, BUT PUBLIC WORKS I THINK WOULD BE THE LIGHTING THE DECISION BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT OWN IT AT THE END ONCE CI P'S DONE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. AND I'M ALSO GETTING THE SENSE TOO THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE OKAY WITH THE SCREENING. IT'S REALLY JUST THE LIGHTING QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO I GUESS WE'LL CHECK IT OUT AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SLIP IN . YES. YES. I MEAN, WE'LL SEE YOU COME BACK. SURE. SO DEFINITELY. YEAH. UM, SO DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT OR JUST SORT OF AGREE WE CAN TABLE THE ITEM AND THEN, AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON TO OUR CONTINUED APPLICATIONS, D RRB 23 0 9 6 0 7 0 4 84 STREET, BORA BAY TWO. UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE TO ON THE SITE. UM, I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT AGAIN, JANINA. OH, WOW. NO, SHE HAD AN ISSUE IN THE FAMILY. SHE TOLD ME SHE LAST MONTH AND SHE TOLD ME SHE WOULD BE HERE TODAY. UM, I GUESS MAYBE WE MOVE ON. OKAY. AND IF THEY, THEY GET HERE BEFORE TOO, I APOLOGIZE. YEAH. UH, SO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE HERS, UM, THE BO BAY TWO AND THE BO BAY THREE. OKAY. SO MOVING [7. DRB24-1025, 201 N COCONUT LANE.] ON, UH, TO NEW APPLICATIONS. D RRB 24 1 0 2 5 2 0 1 NORTH COCONUT LANE. THANK YOU. UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY LEVEL, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS AND A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN FRONT IN THE FRONT YARD TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. OKAY. SO THIS, UM, THIS IS AN UNDERSTORY HOME, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. IT'S A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON HIBISCUS ISLAND. THE HOME IS DESIGNED, UM, IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE WITH, UH, CONTRASTING MATERIALS AND REC RECLINE FORMS. UM, THE FRONT, UM, ELEVATION FEATURES A, A STUCCO DOMINANT STUCCO GRID FRAMES THE WALLS IN THE PLAINS OF THE GRA OF THE, OF THE GLASS. UM, AND PROJECTING, UH, BALCONY STAGGER EACH FLOOR THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE FRONT AND REAR ELEVATIONS. UM, THE FIRST FULLY ENCLOSED HABITABLE FLOOR, UM, IS LOCATED IN AN ELEVATION OF 15 FEET. THE OVERALL HOME, UH, HEIGHT OF THE HOME IS AT 24 FEET. SO THAT'S WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT LIMITS. UM, STAFF IS LOOKING AT, AT, UH, ADJUSTING WELL THE HEIGHT LIMITS IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICTS, BUT THIS WOULD BE TOTALLY INCOMPLIANT WITH THAT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER RELATED TO THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR TWO STORY ELEVATIONS THAT EXCEED 60 FEET IN LENGTH. UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, IT'S 63 FEET, SO THEY'RE ONLY EXCEEDING THAT, THAT DIMENSION BY THREE FEET, 10 INCHES. UM, UM, BUT THE DESIGN DOES INCORPORATE OPEN SPACE. IT JUST DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE MINIMUM STANDARD. UM, AND SO STAFF FINDS THAT THE, THAT [00:30:01] THE ELEVATION, UM, DOES COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE IN BREAKING UP THAT MASSING AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, OF, UH, OF ISSUING THE WAIVER. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A, A VARIANCE, UM, FROM THE FRONT YARD ELEVATION. UM, FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FRONT YARD, UM, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT 70% OF THE FRONT YARD BE OPEN SPACE. UH, CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT IS ONLY, HAS ONLY HAS 51%, UM, SORRY, THEY'RE OCCUPYING 51%, SO LEAVING ONLY 49% OPEN. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GARAGE. THE LOT IS VERY NARROW AND THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE WALKWAYS LEADING INTO THE GARAGE, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO DESIGN THEM. SO IT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT. UM, AND THE LIMITED ACCESS FROM, THERE'S NO OTHER ACCESS POINTS EXCEPT THE FRONT YARD. UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE VARIANCES. UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION OF THE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE VARIANCES, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. GOOD MORNING BOARD. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. UH, MY NAME IS RAFAEL LEVY FROM CHF LEVY, FISHMAN, 84 25 BISCAYNE, SUITE 2 0 1. UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU 2 0 1 NORTH COCONUT LANE, THE BE RESIDENCE. UM, IT IS ON PALM ISLAND. UH, HERE'S THE LOCATION. UM, IT IS IN AN RS FOUR DISTRICT. UH, A BUNCH OF THE HOUSES AROUND IT ARE, ARE RELATIVELY LOW SCALE, BUT WE ARE SEEING, UH, A BUNCH OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME UP THAT ARE CONFORMING TO THE NEW CODES, INCLUDING THE UNDERST STORIES. UH, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEM, UM, AN ELEVATION THAT YOU CAN SEE IT IN CONTEXT. UM, SO AS YOU COME IN, YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH THE GARAGE. THE VOLUME OF THE HOUSE IS SORT OF CONCEIVED OF AS LIKE A BIG STONE BLOCK THAT'S KIND OF CARVED OUT AND HAS THE, UH, BALCONIES KIND OF PROJECTING FOR IT TO, UM, BREAK UP THE FACADES. UM, AND THEN THERE'S A KIND OF WHITE STUCCO CANOPY THAT WRAPS THE FACADE TO KIND OF ENCAPSULATE EVERYTHING AND CREATE SPATIAL, UM, UH, MOMENTS WITH THE EXTERIORS AND HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO THE STREET. UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE UNDERSTORY. WE HAVE THE, THE WIDE DRIVEWAY. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE AS ROGELIO SAID, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A NARROW LOT. AND, UH, OUR DRIVEWAY ALLOWS US TO APPROACH OUR GARAGE WITH TWO CARS. UM, WE HAVE, UH, JUST THE CENTER OF THIS. THE LOT IS OCCUPIED BY A LOBBY WITH THE ELEVATOR AND STAIR, AND THE REAR OF THE LOT IS RESERVED FOR A POOL DECK. AND THE POOL, WHICH WE'VE KEPT, UH, FLUSH WITH THE GRADE OF THE SITE AND NOT ELEVATED. UM, ON THE FIRST FLOOR, YOU COME UP A GRAND STAIRCASE UP TO THE FRONT DOOR AND JUST TO THE LEFT OF YOU, YOU HAVE A VERY LONG REFLECTING POND THAT OCCUPIES OUR COURTYARD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER ON THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE OUR COURTYARD IS JUST NOT QUITE EIGHT FEET DEEP. IT'S, UH, SIX FEET EIGHT, BUT IT STRETCHES ABOUT 70 PLUS PERCENT OF THE, UH, SIDE OF THE ELEVATION. SO WE FEEL IT AT LEAST MEETS THE INTENT OF THE CODE, IF NOT THE LETTER OF IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, SORRY. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SPACES SORT OF FACING THE REAR. WE HAVE A BEDROOM FACING THE FRONT, AND AGAIN, THE CORE CIRCULATION VERTICALLY IS HAPPENING AT THE CENTER OF THE LOT. UM, AND THEN UPSTAIRS WE HAVE A MASTER SUITE FACING THE WATER, ANOTHER BEDROOM FACING THE FRONT, AND THEN A ROOF DECK ABOVE ON THE, UP ON THE ROOF. UM, WE ARE STAYING WITHIN OUR SORT OF TYPICAL PALLET OF, UM, TROPICAL MODERN MATERIALS. THE, THE BULK OF THE VOLUME WILL BE CLAD IN STONE. UM, THERE WILL BE A CANOPY ELEMENT, WHICH WILL BE PAINTED STUCCO, AND THEN SOME ACCENTS AND SOME SURFACES, WHICH WILL BE, UM, CLAD WITH A WOOD MATERIAL. WHETHER IT'S NATURAL WOOD OR A SYNTHETIC IS TO BE DETERMINED. BUT WE, WE'VE BEEN GOING MORE SYNTHETIC LATELY FOR MAINTENANCE REASONS. UM, THE ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE, TO ASK THE DRB FOR THAT HASN'T MADE IT INTO OUR APPLICATION YET IS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS, UM, WE SET OUR FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION, UM, 10 FEET ABOVE GRADE, BUT OUR UNDERSTORY IS RELATIVELY FLUSH WITH THE STREET. WE'D LIKE TO RAISE THE FIRST FLOOR TWO FEET TO RAISE OUR UNDERSTORY AND MAKE THE STRUCTURE MORE RESILIENT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING IN OUR APPLICATION PLUS 15, WE'RE ASKING IF THE BOARD WOULD ALLOW US TO GO TO PLUS 17, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE A, THE, THE FULL THREE FEET, UM, THAT THE DRB HAS THE DESCRIPTION TO ALLOW TO ALLOW US FOR ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND AN UNDERSTORY. UM, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR AXONOMETRIC VIEWS. AS YOU CAN SEE. WE, WE TRY TO ARTICULATE EVERY FACADE OF THE, UM, OF THE BUILDING EQUALLY INCLUDING THE SIDE ELEVATIONS. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME OF THE [00:35:01] RENDERINGS, UM, THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE ARTICULATION OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE VOLUMES, HOW THE MATERIALS PLAY WITH EACH OTHER, AND CREATE THE VOLUMES OF SPACES THAT I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING. AND THAT'S THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ONLINE? ANYONE ONLINE? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NOBODY WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ROGELIO OR YOURSELVES, WHAT IS THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT FOR THIS PROPERTY? ONE 50 BY 50. I I, NO, IT SAYS, NEED TO KNOW THE WIDTH. IS IT 50? IT'S 50 BY ONE 50. I'M SORRY. 50 FEET BY 150 FEET. OKAY. AND, UM, THE SIDE SETBACK THAT YOU'RE RE UH, REQUESTING, UH, THE OPEN AREA, UM, ROGELIO, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT AS TO WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING. THE, THE, SO THE, THE, IF YOU DON'T REQUEST THE WAIVER, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AN OPEN SPACE ON EACH SIDE IN EACH FRONTAGE THAT'S LONGER THAN 60 FEET. THAT'S EQUAL TO 1% OF THE, OF THE LOT SIZE AND HAS A DEPTH OF EIGHT FEET. THEY'RE PROPOSING AN OPEN SPACE, BUT IT HAS A DEPTH OF SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES DEEP. UM, AND THEN IT ALSO HAS A REFLECTING POOL AT THE GROUND LEVEL. I THINK THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT IT CONSISTS OF OPEN SPACE. SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING A REFLECTING POOL INSTEAD OF, UM, UH, GREEN SPACE WOULD NOT COMPLY AND THE DEPTH DOES NOT COMPLY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE TWO FEET SHORT. UM, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN TWO FEET SHORT. UM, SO, SO THAT'S THE ISSUE. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THE WAIVER. AND THE, SO THE DESIGN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING DOES BREAK UP THE MASS, IT COMPLIES WITH THE INTENT OF, OF THE CODE. MM-HMM. AND THE REFLECTING POOL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A, IS A NICE ADDITION, A NICE FEATURE, UH, FOR THE DESIGN. SO AS, AS ONE MEMBER, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON MY THOUGHTS. UM, I, I THINK THAT YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT THE BREAKUP THAT THEY HAVE ON THE SIDE DOES, UM, PRESENT THE, UM, INTENT OF THE CODE TO BREAK UP THE MASS ON THE SIDE AND DOES IT NICELY WITH THE, UM, ELEMENT OF THE WATER FEATURE AS TO THE LOT HAVING A WIDTH OF 55. FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I CAN SAY IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, UH, TO DESIGN SOMETHING AND, AND MOST HOMES DO HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED, UM, THAT AREA TO BE COVERED MORE THAN, UH, THE 70% THAT IS REQUIRED. UM, SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE FRONT, UM, UH, COVERAGE FOR THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE. AS TO THE ADDITIONAL ELEVATION OF TWO FEET, I DON'T KNOW IF LEGAL CAN DIRECT US AS TO WHETHER THIS REQUIRES THE NOTICE TO BE REISSUED BECAUSE IT IS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, REQUEST THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED PRE, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL ADVERTISEMENT. HAILEY, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE, THAT PARAMETERS THE OF THE NOTICE TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE HEIGHT, THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT WHEN YOU'RE GOING ABOVE 24 FEET IS SOMETHING THAT THE DRB HAS TO APPROVE AS A WAIVER. MM-HMM. , UM, WE DID ADVERTISE THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL WAIVERS. WE DID NOT, WE GENERALLY, WE ADVERTISE SPECIFICALLY WHAT VARIANCES ARE, BUT WAIVERS, WE SORT OF LEAVE IT OPEN-END IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THIS POPS UP. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I THINK THE HEIGHT, SO WE'RE COVERED WITH THIS. OKAY. WE'RE COVERED. ALRIGHT. ON SHOULD BE ANY, I'M FINE WITH THAT THEN. THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION. DOES YOUR SECTION, UH, SHEET A THREE ONE, UM, HAVE SHOW THAT ADDITIONAL TWO FEET FOR THE GROUND? OR DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL OF HOW YOU WANT THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BUILDING, THE SITE AND THE EXISTING STREET TO BE WITH THAT ADDITIONAL TWO FEET? UH, THE SECTION IS A 3.1, BUT THIS IS THE PREVIOUS ONE. WE ARE BASICALLY LOOKING TO RAISE WHAT YOU SEE HERE AS 15 FEET OF THE FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION TO 17 FEET. RIGHT. SO I GUESS IN GENERAL, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH RAISING IT, BUT I, MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, SORT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL CODE AND THEN THE INTENT OF THE UNDERSTORY TOGETHER, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CONFLICTING ISSUES. SO I, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE FORM OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT BEING A REFLECTING POND ON THE WEST SIDE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE RAISING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ABSORB AS MUCH WATER RUNOFF AS POSSIBLE. AND I THINK THE POINT THAT THAT SHOULD BE OPEN GREEN SPACE IS FOR THAT. AND THEN AGAIN, IF YOU'RE RAISING THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, [00:40:01] I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW ARE YOU TREATING THE SITE, WHAT IS THE LANDSCAPE FUNCTION, WHAT IS ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE BUILDING AND TO THE EXISTING CONTEXT, WHICH IS THEN THE STREET. SO AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE REQUEST, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'VE ARE SHOWING US HOW IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BENEFIT THE LARGER CONTEXT WHEN YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE WAIVERS, WHICH THEY'RE IN PLACE FOR SORT OF THIS NEW URBANISM OF, YOU KNOW, A RAISED MIAMI BEACH VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE, UH, DRAWINGS THAT SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE LANDSCAPE, THE RAISED SITE AND THE BUILDING. RALPH CHO IF, UH, CHO, IF LEVY FISHMAN. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING HERE, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I THINK SHE WANTED SOMETHING BEFORE THAT. IT WAS A SIMILAR, IT WAS A SIMILAR POINT. I, MY, I AGAIN DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING HERE. UM, BUT THE INTERPLAY, I GUESS MAYBE IT'S JUST THE RENDERINGS, BUT THE, THE LACK OF LANDSCAPING AGAINST LIKE A STARK WHITE, WE HAVE A FULL LANDSCAPE PRESENTATION. THIS IS JUST ARCHITECTURE AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE ARTICULATE ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPE. I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION. YES, WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE ACTUALLY WHO COULD SPEAK TO. OKAY. WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE ALSO, UM, BY CODE, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER TO KEEP WATER RUNOFF ON SITE, AND THAT'S ALL DONE BY CALCULATIONS. AND WE'LL NEVER GET A PERMIT IF WE DON'T PROVE THAT THE, THAT THE WATER STAYS ON SITE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, AND CIVIL ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AS PART OF OUR PACKAGE. NOT HERE, BUT AS PART OF, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING PACKAGE. IN THE END, THE INTENT OF THE CODE TO SET IT BACK EIGHT 1% OR EIGHT UH, FEET, UH, AS A DEPTH, UH, NOT EXCEEDING 60 FOOT LENGTH. WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE PROVIDED THIS REALLY BEAUTIFUL REFLECTING POND WITH, UH, AN ENTIRE FACADE OF SLIDING GLASS DOORS THAT WHEN OPEN EXPOSES ACTUALLY THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THAT AND WHO IS EVER INSIDE THE HOUSE WHEN THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH THE QUARTERS ACTUALLY GETS THE BENEFIT OF THAT WATER, UH, RIGHT THERE AS THEY'RE WALKING INTO THE HOUSE. SO, UM, I THINK THAT ALONE IS A, IS A BEAUTIFUL FEATURE THAT IS QUITE COSTLY TO THE OWNER. AND UM, AND, UH, IT DOES SERVE THE INTENT. AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE INTENT OF, OF WHY THAT, UH, CODE WAS, UH, MADE UP WAS TO BREAK UP, UH, EXTERIORS ON THE SIDE. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT SERVES THE INTENT OF THAT PART OF THE CODE AND, AND IT SERVES THE OWNER. AND MY RESPONSE AND MY COMMENT WAS THEN AGAIN, IN THE FRONT PART, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO ASKING FOR MORE IMPERVIOUS AND LESS OPEN SPACE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DESIGN AS A WHOLE, AND I THINK THIS IS WHY WE'RE UP HERE AND WHY THE UNDERSTORY PROJECTS ARE COMING TO THE DRB SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST SERVING THE CLIENT. SO YES, I THINK THAT THE REFLECTING POND AND, AND THE ADJACENT WINDOWS ARE GREAT, THAT'S GONNA BE ENJOYED BY THE CLIENT, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHERE, WHERE ARE, WHERE IS THE DESIGN GIVING BACK TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT WITH THE INTENT? WELL, THE INTENT, SO, SO YOU HAVE TO SET BACK EIGHT FEET AND IT HAS TO BE 1% OF THE LOT SIZE. WE'RE SETTING BACK SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES. THAT MEANS WE'RE SHORT ONE FEET, FOUR INCHES, BUT WE'RE MAKING UP FOR IT. YEAH. THE FORM I'M FINE WITH, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN SPACE. SO YOU'RE ALSO, WE FEEL WE'RE GIVING BACK TO THE NEIGHBORS QUITE A BIT. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ELEVATIONS, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN OUR ARCHITECTURE, OUR SIDE ELEVATIONS ARE NOT FLAT. OUR SIDE ELEVATIONS ARE ALWAYS INTERESTING. UM, AND UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES THAT, THAT IT IS, I THINK WE'RE GIVING BACK, UH, IN THIS FORM ALSO, THEY'LL SEE THE FRONT OF AND THE BACK OF THE RESIDENCE. NOW REGARDING THE FRONT AREA, WE ONLY HAVE A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT AND WE HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. AND SO THAT ALONE IS WHY WE HAVE TO ASK FOR A WAIVER AT, AT THAT POINT. OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T BE, IF IT WAS A WIDE ENOUGH LOT, OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR A WAIVER. I, IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING TOO, UM, OR I KNOW I CAN. UH, SO I, I HAVE TO SAY I LIKE, I VERY MUCH LIKE THE DESIGN AND I WOULD SAY TO YOUR POINT, THE EAST ELEVATION IN PARTICULAR WAS SOMETHING THAT I FOUND REALLY STRIKING WITH THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE AND THE FLOATING STAIRCASE. LOVELY. UM, I THINK THAT THIS ISSUE, MY ONE CONCERN THAT I HAD WITH THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED AT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BOOKENDS, UH, SHANA, SHANA AND LAURA'S CONCERNS, I'M, I WANNA KNOW, I, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE THIS DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAY. UM, AND I ALSO WENT TO THE SITE, IT IS A SMALL LOT. UM, AND ALSO THAT I DO KNOW THAT THESE ISLANDS HAVE BEEN NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING BAD FLOODING. UM, LET [00:45:01] ME QUICK QUESTION. GEE, I NOTICED THAT A BUNCH OF THE HOMES ON THAT BLOCK AND I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THIS ONE, THE STREET HAS ALREADY BEEN RAISED AND THEY ARE, YOU GO DOWN, UM, WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL RAISING. WOULD THIS PROPERTY ALSO DO THAT? WE WERE NOT, I THINK ROUGHLY ABOVE, NO, WE WOULD BE ABOVE THE STREET. WE WOULD BE ABOVE THE STREET WHEN YOU DO IT. AND SO IF, IF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THE EXTRA TWO FEET, IT WOULD STILL BE ABOVE THE STREET. YEAH. PREVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE MORE OR LESS FLUSH. RIGHT. FLUSH. OKAY. THAT WAS THE QUESTION PREVIOUS, LET ME ASK YOU, PREVIOUS DESIGNS DID NOT HAVE THAT COMMODITY AVAILABLE TO THEM. THE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CHANGED THAT RIGHTFULLY SO TO AVOID FLOODING. SO NOW INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN, WE'RE EITHER FLUSH OR A LITTLE BIT ABOVE. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. UM, HOW COME, 'CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE DRIVEWAY, I MEAN IT IS, IT IS A LOT MORE IMPERVIOUS SPACE. IS THERE A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE DRIVEWAY IF, UH, YEAH, I MEAN IF, IF THE DRB WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE APPROVING THIS DRIVEWAY, IF IT WAS LIKE A TERRA PVE OR SOMETHING POROUS OR SOMETHING THAT INTEGRATES LANDSCAPING, I THINK WE'D BE TOTALLY OPEN TO AN OPTION LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD RESOLVE SOME ISSUES. AGAIN, BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES ARE KNOWN TO FLOOD AND I MEAN THIS IS WHY YOU'RE DOING THE UNDERSTORY TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE RESILIENT AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FORWARD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DECISION. UM, ALSO, AND THEN, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'D BE, LET ME ASK THE UNDERSTORY. I COULD HAVE SWORN, AND I COULD BE WRONG, THAT LAST TIME WHEN WE REVIEWED A LARGE UNDERSTORY HOME ALSO ON THESE ISLANDS, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH A CARPORT. AND I COULD HAVE SWORN YOU SAID THAT THERE, THAT THE UNDERSTORY IS DESIGNED TO ACT LIKE A GARAGE SO THAT UNDERSTORY HOMES DON'T HAVE GARAGES. BUT NOW THIS IS ONE OF TWO PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BOTH A GARAGE AND AN UNDERSTORY. SO WHAT, UM, I THINK IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE, THE, THE WAY THE, THE WIDTH OF THE LOT AND THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CARS. SO IN SOME OF THESE PROPOSALS THEY'RE MUCH WIDER LOTS AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SORT OF ACCOMMODATE THE CARS REALLY FAR INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE UNDERSTORY SPACE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT GARAGE EFFECT. IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO HAVE THE CAR GO IN AND MAKE A LEFT TURN AND, AND HAVE A GARAGE THAT'S FAR MORE CONCEALED, UH, FROM VIEW. THE CODE DOESN'T PROHIBIT THE GARAGE BEING LOCATED RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE UNDERSTORY. ALMOST LIKE A, LIKE A TRADITIONAL HOME WHERE THE GARAGE IS RIGHT IN THE FRONT FRONT. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE HERE. AND I THINK WHY, WHY IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY. IDEALLY IT WOULD SORT OF BE PUSHED BACK INTO THE UNDERSTORY, BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY EAT INTO THEIR USABLE SPACE, UM, AND, AND SORT OF EAT AWAY MUCH OF THE INTENT OF THE UNDERST STORY, WHICH IS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE FOR THE RESIDENT. OKAY. YEAH, NO, THAT WAS, SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST THE GARAGE, IT JUST HAS AN ADDITIONAL RETRACTABLE WALL AS OPPOSED TO BEING OPEN IS REALLY DEFINING IT BY GARAGE OR NOT A GARAGE. SO THEN MOVING FORWARD ON LARGER PROPERTIES, IT'S NOT, IT CAN'T BE ENCLOSED, BUT ON SMALLER LOTS LIKE THIS, IT CAN, THAT'S THE GENERAL, IN LARGER PROPERTY IT CAN BE ENCLOSED, BUT THEY TYPICALLY ENCLOS IT FURTHER BACK RECESSED INTO THE FACADE SO YOU DON'T SEE IT FROM THE FRONT. I SEE, I SEE. OKAY. THAT WAS, YEAH, SO, AND I, I MEAN, I I THINK TOO THAT, YEAH, IT, I MEAN IF YOU'RE WILLING TO CREATE, TO USE A MATERIAL THAT IS, UM, PERVIOUS AND, AND I ALSO THINK THAT HAVE REQUIRED WHAT THE REQUIRED THAT, UM, WELL AS PROPOSED, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE NOT, I MEAN THAT WAS THE ISSUE. UH, I MEAN THE CODE REQUIRE, AS IS WRITTEN, REQUIRES IT TO BE PAVING ON GRADE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S GONNA BE POROUS TO SOME DEGREE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LARGE SLAB OF CONCRETE IS GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF ABSORPTIVE PROPERTY THAN A TERRA PAVER. SO YEAH, I MEAN EVEN THOUGH THESE THINGS ARE SET ON, ON, ON, UH, SAND OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, AND IT WILL HAVE SOME POROSITY. THERE ARE DEFINITELY OPTIONS THAT CAN ENHANCE IT. YEAH, I MEAN, SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE VARIANCE, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER 20% DIFFERENCE IN WHAT'S REQUIRED VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. SO I I IF, IF, IF THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CHOICE OF MATERIAL AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE SUGGESTED BY ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER TO USE, I COULD SUPPORT THE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, LET ME ADD THIS, UM, I THOUGHT ROGELIO THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE PERVIOUS MATERIAL ON A DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT AND AS WELL AS IN THE BACK, UH, TO ALLOW, UM, FOR THE WATER TO PERCOLATE INTO THE, THE GROUND. IS THAT NOT THE, THE CODE REQUIRES EITHER PERVIOUS OR HIGH ALBEDO, WHICH IS A LIGHT COLOR THAT WOULD REFLECT HEAT AND MINIMIZE THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND. IDEALLY YOU WOULD HAVE BOTH, BUT THE CODE SORT OF GIVES YOU AN OPTION OF ONE OR THE OTHER. UM, I THINK IN THIS CASE IT IS PRUDENT TO, TO, UH, TO REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE MORE, THE, THE INCREASED LOT COVERAGE, UH, IN THAT FRONT YARD. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRUDENT RE UH, REQUEST. THE, THE OTHER, UM, OPTION [00:50:01] IS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THAT DRIVEWAY IT STARTS OFF AND ENDS AT THE GARAGE WITH A TWO CAR WIDTH, YOU KNOW, A A A DRIVEWAY, FOUR, TWO VEHICLES, CAN IT START OFF NARROWER AND THEN SORT OF CUT UP AS IT REACHES THE ENTRANCE OF THE GARAGE SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE PERVIOUS AREA? I CAN ANSWER THAT. OKAY. THE LOT IS VERY NARROW AND, UH, IN, IN, IN SUCH, WE WANT THE CARS TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE INTO THE GARAGE AND THEN BE ABLE TO PULL OUT AND HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO MANEUVER. IF WE WERE TO MAKE, UH, A PORTION OF THAT NARROWER, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE CARS TO GET, THEY, WOULD IT BE OKAY TO GET IN, BUT TO GET OUT WOULD BE QUITE DIFFICULT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACK OUT ALL THE WAY BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE LOT. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF HESITATE TO DO THAT. CAN WE DO IT? YES, WE CAN. UM, IS IT PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE, UH, IN THIS APPLICATION? NOT REALLY. SO YEAH, I, I TEND TO AGREE WITH, UH, STAFF'S ANALYSIS THAT THE, THE, THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT POSES A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY THAT WARRANTS THE, THE GRANTING OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE. MAY I ASK ONE QUESTION TOO ABOUT THE, THE FRONT WALL? UM, DO YOU, HAVE YOU GUYS CHOSEN A MATERIAL FOR THE ACTUAL GATE THAT'S GOING WHEN THE GATE IS CLOSED? UH, NOT YET. UM, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DO STONE, BUT, UM, OFTENTIMES THE COST ISN'T THERE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING COVERED WITH LANDSCAPING ANYHOW, SO WE HAVEN'T QUITE GOTTEN THERE. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING IT SET BACK TWO FEET, SO IT'LL BE A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL. OUR GATES ARE TYPICALLY METAL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DESIGNED TO APPEAR CONSISTENT WITH OTHER METAL FEATURES OF THE HOUSE. SO IT MAY HAVE A LOURED KIND OF APPEARANCE TO IT, UM, AND BE PAINTED THE SAME AS THE WINDOW FRAMES. UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I DON'T THINK WE'VE, WE'VE SORT OF GOTTEN INTO THOSE DETAILS YET. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE I THINK THE SITE MAY BENEFIT FROM LIKE A LOURED OR, OR PERVIOUS FRONTAGE THERE TO BREAK UP THE WHITE WALL. AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE OTHER HOMES ON THE BLOCK, THEY, AT LEAST THE ONE TO THE LEFT DIDN'T HAVE ANY FENCING AT ALL. I DON'T REMEMBER THIS. SO HAVING, AND, AND THIS IS A STREET, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, UP AGAINST THE STREET. I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE FENCE COULD BE PERVIOUS AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH, THE, THE HOME ITSELF IS GONNA CREATE SUCH A BIG PRESENCE. UM, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S A TIGHT STREET, NARROW LOT. EVERYTHING IS VERY CLOSE. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. UM, AND I WOULD ALSO SAY TOO, WE START TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING BEFORE, I THINK THAT HAVING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE PRESENTATION, THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU SHOW IN THE PRESENTATION DOESN'T REALLY DO IT JUSTICE. I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE ISSUE. BUT I, I WOULD HOPE THAT, I THINK SOFT LINE LANDSCAPING WOULD DO A REALLY GOOD JOB. I, I LIKE THE SORT OF THE BOXINESS OF THE DESIGN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS SOME SOFTENING AND CERTAINLY THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE THE WAY TO GET THAT DONE. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WITH A DRIVEWAY, HAVING, YOU KNOW, BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE CODE, UM, WOULD ALSO HELP WITH THAT SOFTENING. OKAY. OKAY. OH, AND I HAD A QUESTION TOO. WHAT IS THE MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE FOR THE RAILING FOR THE FRONT STAIR? IS IT GLASS? YES. DIDN'T REALLY SAY. YEAH, ALL OUR RAILINGS HERE ARE GLASS. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DOES EVERYONE FEEL SATISFIED? ARE WE GONNA GET A LANDSCAPE PRESENTATION OR NOT? YEAH. UH, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE, UH, LOADED UP. THERE WAS SOME LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS, THERE ARE SOME PLANS LISTED. DON'T LOOK, THERE IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. WELL, I FEEL LIKE THE, THE REST OF MY PEERS PROBABLY JUST ARE IN SUPPORT, SO I'LL JUST MAKE A STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE'S A CIVIL ENGINEER, OF COURSE THERE'S CALCULATIONS, BUT I GUESS WE'RE UP HERE. AND THE REASON WHY THESE TYPES OF RESIDENCE PROJECTS COMES TO OUR BOARD IS TO TALK AGAIN ABOUT COHESIVENESS, THE ARCHITECT'S ROLE IN LEADING THAT INTEGRATED DESIGN. AND NOT JUST SAYING THE CIVIL ENGINEER WILL DO CALCULATIONS. HOW IS LANDSCAPE ABSORBING WATER MAXIMIZING, YOU KNOW, THE RAINFALL WE GET, WE CAN DO CALCULATIONS, BUT WE KNOW THINGS DON'T WORK THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK ON PAPER. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPONSIBILITY FROM YOUR GUYS' TEAM ON THAT. BUT THAT'S MY COMMENT, HONOR. AND WE'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT AS A CONDITION FOR APPROVAL, UH, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, PRECISELY THOSE ISSUES TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE SATISFIED, AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL. ALSO, TO CLARIFY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAKES [00:55:01] A DIFFERENCE OR NOT. I NOTICED THAT THE POOL IS NOT AT GRADE. THE POOL IS AT THE FIRST, NO, IT'S AT GRADE EXPLODING OR IT'S AT THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL. IS IT THE WHAT? IT'S AT THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL. IT'S NOT ELEVATED UP TO THE FIRST FLOOR, THE POOL. OH, IT SEEMS LIKE FIRST FLOOR PAN. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT G 4.4, THE RENT, IS IT IN, IS THE POOL AT THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL? YES. OR THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL? NO, OF UNDERSTORY LEVEL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT'S HERE ON THE PLAN. ON THE PLAN. IT LOOKS LIKE, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, IT LOOKS LIKE THE POOL ISN'T THE FIRST STORY. CAN YOU SHOW ON THE SCREEN FOR PURPOSES OF THOSE, RIGHT. NO, THAT'S, NO, I GUESS I MEANT THE REFLECTING POOL, NOT THE SWIMMING POOL. OH, THE REFLECT POND. YES. YES. THE, THE REFLECTING POND IS ELEVATED AT THE FIRST FLOOR. YES. YOU, AS YOU COME UP TO THE FRONT DOOR, IT'LL BE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU. SO IT BE ELEVATED SO DOES THAT AFFECT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT, AND THEY'RE BASICALLY BUILDING IN THE OPEN SPACE, SO, BUT, UH, IT'S COVERED AS OPPOSED TO, BUT WE, WE WOULD NORMALLY BE PERMITTED LANDSCAPE SPACE AT THAT ELEVATION. IF I'M NOT UNDER, OR NORMALLY THERE WOULD BE NOTHING THERE OR, OR, UH, EQUIPMENT IS ALLOWED IN THAT SPACE TOO. SO THAT OCCUPIES. SO, SO, SO HERE'S THE, THE, THE CODE, IF, LET'S SAY WE, WE WENT TO THE, TO THE LAW ON THIS AND WE SET BACK EIGHT FEET, AND, UH, THE WIDTH EQUALED 1% OF THE PROPERTY SIZE, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GRADE. AND THIS WAS THIS VOID SPACE. IT WOULD NOT BE ARCHITECTURALLY PLEASANT, BUT WE MEET THE CODE. AND WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE DID SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT MORE COSTLY TO THE OWNER. IT'LL FACE THE NEIGHBOR AND IT'S SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES SET IN FOR QUITE A LONG LENGTH. SO WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE HOUSE, YOU ARE WALKING RIGHT NEXT TO THIS REFLECTING POND, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL FEATURE. SO, YOU KNOW, COULD WE HAVE GONE BACK EIGHT FEET AND LEFT IT AS A VOID? YES. BUT ARCHITECTURALLY IT'S WOULD NOT BE VERY PLEASANT. WHAT ARE THE SIDES OF, THAT'S WHERE LANDSCAPE COMES IN. SORRY. THAT'S WHERE LANDSCAPE COMES IN. AND I THINK ON YOUR L ONE TO THE POINT, YOU'RE SHOWING A GRAVEL PATH AND SOME PLANTS, BUT THEN THE REFLECTING POND WOULD BE RIGHT ABOVE THAT. SO I GUESS ARE WE, IS STUFF GONNA GROW UNDER THAT? YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK THERE'S, RIGHT, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S ACTING AS AN EXTENSION OF THE UNDERSTORY AS OPPOSED TO AN OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS YOUR POINT. MM-HMM. . AND IF YOU BRING UP THE RENDERING OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE PRESENTATION ON PAGE 25, YOU CAN GET A, UNFORTUNATELY THE WRITING IS BLOCKING THE IMPORTANT PART OF THAT RENDERING. YEAH. ISN'T THAT IT RIGHT THERE? YEAH. BUT, UH, IF YOU TAKE THAT OFF, YOU'LL SEE THE REFLECTING POND AND HOW IT, UM, HOW IT WORKS WITH THE UNDERSTORY AND WITH THE, UH, OH, THERE, IT'S, RIGHT. SORRY. . OH, OH, I WAS LIKE, WHAT? WRITING. SORRY. . OKAY. I WAS LIKE, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT. SO YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ELEVATION. SO YOU COULD SEE THAT FACING FORWARD. WE HAVE A SERIES OF VOIDS BACK AND FORTH. WE HAVE A, A LOT OF GLASS FACING THE FRONT, AND WE HAVE ALMOST AN OLD GLASS FACADE THERE. UM, HOW DOES THE SPACE BELOW IT WORK? WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE WATER STAYS. AND IF IT, IF, IF IT REQUIRES US REMOVING A GRAVEL PATH, THEN WE REMOVE THE GRAVEL PATH AND WE PUT IN, UH, WE PUT IN, UH, GRASS IN THAT AREA AND WE BERM IT, OR WE PUT FRENCH DRAINS, HOW, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO. BUT IT IS THE CODE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN. I THINK IT'S THE FIRST INCH OF WATER ON THE, ON THE SITE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. OR ELSE WE CAN'T GET A PERMIT. AND WE SKIPPED COMPLETELY OVER THE FACT. I THINK YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB WITH BOTH SIDE ELEVATIONS. I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY, THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL. YOU KEEP UPPING THE GAME WITH THAT. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY I HAD TO APPROVE OF IT. YEAH. I, I DO THINK THAT IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE CODE, LIKE IT IS OPEN. UM, IT'S NOT, IT, IT, IT'S STILL, I I THINK THAT THE REASONING BEHIND THIS CODE IS SO THAT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR IS NOT STARING AT, YOU KNOW, A, A, A FLAT WALL. AND CERTAINLY THERE'S MOVEMENT IN IT, AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS A CHALLENGE. WE, WE ARE, I FEEL LIKE THIS, THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE PROPOSAL OF AN UNDERSTORY THAT SHOWS LANDSCAPING UNDER THE UNDERSTORY, WHICH I TOO ALWAYS QUESTION. UM, BUT THERE ARE, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THERE ARE PLANTS THAT DON'T, YOU KNOW, LOWLIGHT PLANTS THAT CAN GROW IN THESE AREAS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, CHRIS, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS HERE. YEAH. YEAH. SO WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? I MEAN, I THINK TO, TO ALLEVIATE SEAN'S [01:00:01] CONCERNS, MOR MORNING, EVERYBODY, CHRIS COLLEY, IT'S REALLY NICE TO BE HERE. UM, ON SHEET L 1.0, THERE'S, UM, A LANDSCAPE PLAN AND IT'S PRETTY GRAPHIC AND EASY TO READ. AND IT SHOWS HOW THE LANDSCAPE ON THAT WESTERN SIDE COMES UP UNDER THE, THE REFLECTING POOL, WHICH IS ONE LEVEL ABOVE. AND DEFINITELY IT'S ALL SHADE TOLERANT TROPICAL PLANTS OR SOME LADY PALMS AND SOME MONSTERA AND EVERYTHING THAT WOULD GROW REALLY WELL IN THAT TYPE OF CONDITION. AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, ONCE THE UNDERSTORY BECAME A THING, THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THIS BROUGHT UP A SERIES OF CHALLENGES. AND SO WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE SPACES IN A BETTER WAY OVER THE YEARS. AND SO WE DO HAVE ALL OF THAT UNDERSTORY PLANTING, WHICH WE THINK WILL DO REALLY WELL. AND THEN JUST AS AN ASIDE IN THE RENDERING, THAT WAS SHOWN WHERE IT HAD THE REFLECTING POOL ON THAT WEST SIDE, ON THE SECOND LEVEL, ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ THESE LANDSCAPE PLANS. IT'S ALL THESE LITTLE SHAPES AND SYMBOLS, BUT WE DO HAVE REALLY NICE TROPICAL SCREENING ALONG THAT SIDE RIGHT THERE, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE OF THE RESIDENCE AND YOU LOOK OUT OF THAT BEAUTIFUL, UM, LARGE WINDOW, YOU WOULD SEE THIS REALLY AWESOME TROPICAL BUFFER. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WOULD MENTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON THESE SITES, ON THIS ISLAND, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO NARROW AND THEY'RE SO TIGHT, THE SIMPLER THE SCHEME, THE BETTER THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS, YOU KNOW. AND SO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE'VE DONE IT, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO THINK IT OUT, UM, REALLY WELL AND MAKE SURE EACH COMPONENT PIECE WORKS TO SUPPORT AND, UM, HELP ACCENTUATE THE ARCHITECTURE. AND SO WE HAVE A NICE COCONUT PALM LEANING IN THE FRONT, AND WE DO HAVE NICE PLANTINGS IN FRONT OF THE, THE WALL ADJACENT TO THE STREET. LIKE, LIKE RAFAEL MENTIONED, THE WALL SET TWO FEET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH GIVES US A LITTLE BUFFER THERE. AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES AND THE PALMS AND THE HEDGES ON THE SIDE ARE ALL NATIVE SPECIES. SO WE, WE FEEL, WE'LL FEEL REALLY STRONGLY THAT THE LANDSCAPE WILL HELP ACCENTUATE THAT THE RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, I, OR, OR DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR CONCERNS? OR DOES SOMEBODY WANNA, ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION OR? I THINK YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A MOTION AND I DON'T THINK MY, MY COMMENTS ARE BEING ABSORBED. CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUICK QUESTION? QUESTION. WHAT ARE YOUR SIDE SETBACKS ON THE PROPOSED? I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN AND A HALF ON BOTH SIDES. OKAY. LET ME JUST VERIFY. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. SEVEN AND A HALF. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, READY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, WHAT AM I MOVING? LET'S SEE, , UM, THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, ADDITIONAL TWO FEET, UM, ELEVATION. SO FAR SO GOOD. ROGELIO OH TWO, OH, OH, WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY RELATED TO THAT. SO THE STREETS IN THIS AREA HAVE ALREADY BEEN RAISED. MM-HMM. . SO IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE, AND THIS HOME HAS AN UNDERSTORY, IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT? I MEAN, 'CAUSE FORGET MY, MY IMPRESSION IS THAT WE'RE GIVING THIS EXTRA WITH THE INTENTION THAT STREETS WILL BE RAISED. MM-HMM. . BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE STREETS, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW EXAMPLES WHERE THE STREETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RAISED, SO IS IT REALLY NECESSARY? SO THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL NOW IS, I THINK IT WAS 15. IT'S AT, AT AN ELEVATION OF 15. BUT DO THEY, THEY SHOW THE FUTURE CRIME OF ROAD ELEVATION. CAN YOU OPEN THE, THE SET? IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN RAISED. WE GOT A DETERMINATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THE 4.87 IS THE RAISED STREET ELEVATION. SO 4.87, THEY'RE AT 15. SO YOU HAVE A HEIGHT OF ABOUT 10 FEET. MM-HMM. CLEARANCE? YES. CURRENTLY. BUT THAT'S WITH THE UNDERSTORY, MORE OR LESS FLUSH WITH THE, WITH THE STREET. WE'D LIKE TO RAISE THE UNDERSTORY ELEVATION A LITTLE BIT JUST SO WE HAVE SOME RESILIENCY FROM ANY FLOODING THAT MAY OCCUR ON THE STREET. OKAY. SO, SO THAT IS ALLOWED, UM, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GO TO RAISE THE YARD UP TO BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. UM, I WOULD SAY THERE, IF THE STREET HAS BEEN RAISED TO FOUR, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE HIGHEST THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, WE'RE IN MANY OTHER AREAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 5, 6, 7 IN SOME CASES. UM, SO I THINK THAT IS PRETTY LOW. SO IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO ALLOW 'EM TO RAISE THE YARD A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. UM, YEP. OKAY. OH, AND THEN VARIANCE SEPARATE. YOU CAN ALL HELP IN WITH THE, UH, OKAY. FEEL FREE TO HELP IN. OKAY. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET ELEVATION. SO CAN WE JUST CLICK, SO THAT WOULD MAKE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT 27 FEET? UM, IN TOTAL? IN TOTAL, YEAH. MM-HMM. THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, VARIANCE FOR THE 49% OF THE REQUIRED STREET SIDE YARD, UM, OPENING. [01:05:03] UM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED AT 70% WITH THE, WITH THE, THE DIFFERENT MATERIAL THOUGH PREVIOUS PAVERS, PERVIOUS. BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FRONT DRIVEWAY, NOT THE SIDE YARD. THAT'S THE, THE VARIANCE IS, ISN'T THE VARIANCE. THE SIDE YARDS ARE WAIVERS. THE SIDE YARD ARE WAIVERS. THE VARIANCE IS, IS THE DRIVEWAY. OKAY. SO WHY DON'T DO, I'M GOING BY PAGE NUMBER TWO, WHICH SAYS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW 49% OF THE REQUIRED STREET SIDE YARD. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A, A MOTION FOR THE DESIGN, AND THEN A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT MORE CLEAR. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO MAYBE IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN WITH THE WAIVERS, WHICH, AND THEN HAVE THE VARIANCE, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE DRIVEWAY, THAT'S FINE. ROGELIO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO IS ENUMERATE THE WAIVERS, BECAUSE THE PAGE TWO OF THIS REPORT ONLY TALKS US, TALKS US TO THE VARIANCE. MM-HMM. , UH, TO ALLOW 49% OF THE REQUIRED STREET SIDE YARD SHOULD BE THE FRONT YARD. MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, THAT IT SHOULD SAY FRONT INSTEAD OF SIDE STREET, FRONT YARD. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S THE, YEP. UM, OKAY. SO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN. UM, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE OF THE FRONT, UM, STREET YARD, UM, TO GO 49% INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 70%. HOWEVER, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THEY WOULD INCLUDE, UM, PERVIOUS MATERIAL ON THAT DRIVEWAY. AND THERE'S A THIRD, AND THAT IS THE WAIVERS, ONE OF THEM BEING THE SIDE, UM, YARD SETBACK. THE OPEN SPACE, THE OPEN SPACE ON THE SIDE YARD, ON THE, LET, LET'S SEE, ON THE EAST SIDE, I GUESS IT IS. MM-HMM, . OKAY. AND APPROVE THE WAIVERS. DO WE NEED TO ADD ANY MORE SPECIFICITY TO THE WAIVERS? NOPE. I DON'T, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S NO MORE THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY MS. MUTA ALDI. SECOND BY MR. SHELDON. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NOPE. AYE. MAY , UH, MOTION PASSES. FIVE TO ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I SEE OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS BACK. IF YOU WANNA COME BACK AND WE CAN HEAR THAT NEXT AGAIN. OKAY. SO HAVE YOU BEEN DEBRIEFED AS TO WHAT OUR MAIN QUESTION WAS? YES. YES. GOOD MORNING. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. GIANCARLO PENA, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, POLYWORKS. SO IN REGARDS TO THE WEST AVENUE LIGHTS, UM, ON MAY, 2020, THE CITY WENT THROUGH PART WEST, WENT THROUGH AN UPDATE OF OUR CITY'S LIGHTING STANDARDS. SO THE LIGHTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR WEST AVENUE ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR STANDARDS. SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS BEEN USED AND WAS PROPOSED IN 2021. AND NOW WE'RE CONTINUE WITH THIS BECAUSE IN AN EFFORT TO ELIMINATE THE DIFFERENT LIGHTING THERE ARE WITHIN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE, AND WE PROPOSED TWO, TWO OPTIONS. ONE IS THE LOOSE PORT, UH, PULSON LIGHTS, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WEST AVENUE, SUNSET HARBOR, WHICH ARE, IS A MIX OF, OF, OF, AND THERE'S A MORE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE ACORN LINES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON FLAMINGO AND MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR STANDARDS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS ALLOWS OUR OPERATION AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, STOCKS AND BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEM OR REPLACE THEM IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT. SO CAN YOU ELABORATE THE LEWIS PAULSON LIGHTS THAT YOU YES. WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE? THE ONES THAT ARE ALUMINUM? THEY WERE PRESENTED? YEAH, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PRESENTED AT THE SAUCER ONES. THAT'S THE SAUCER ONES. AND THEN, WHAT WAS THE OTHER OPTION? THE ACORN, ACORN ACORN LIGHT LIGHTING LITTLE HOUSE ON THE CURB. YES. THEY'RE MORE FOR, SO THEY'RE BOTH VERY TRADITIONAL FORMS AS OPPOSED TO MORE MODERN. WHAT ABOUT THE, AND I FORGOT WHAT PAGE IT WAS ON. UM, THAT SHOWED 25, I THINK. HERE GO BACK. THAT ONE, THAT ONE, THAT ONE. DID YOU SEE THE ONE IN THE BACKGROUND THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALTON ROAD? THAT LOOKS VERY MODERN. YEAH, THAT, THAT THAT'S AN FDOT. YEAH, THAT'S FDOT, THAT'S AN FDOT ROAD. SO THEY HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT STANDARDS. I THINK THEY'VE BEEN SO THAT THAT'S NOT A CITY, UM, LIGHT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN ANY OTHER CITY STREET. THEY ARE ONLY ON THAT [01:10:01] PORTION OF ALTON ROAD BEING AN FDOT ROAD. F THE ROAD. YES. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IT. AND THEY MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS. THEY MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS, AND IF, IF, IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, THEY'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE LIGHTS, WE, MY UNDERSTANDING, WE DON'T MAINTAIN THIS KIND OF LIGHTS. OKAY. AND SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTING THERE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALTON? UH, THIS IS, I'M NOT SURE. TO THE EAST, WHICH IS THIS ONE. YOU MEAN TO THE EAST, EAST, EAST 10TH STREET. RIGHT. 10TH STREET. IF WE, IF WE CROSS INTO THE FLAMINGO NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN WE WILL SEE THE, THE ACORN LIGHT, WHICH IS, ARE THE MORE, MORE RESIDENTIAL LIGHT, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THESE, RIGHT. UH, ONE RIGHT THERE. I COULD PROVIDE THE DETAILS. IT'S A DIFFERENT DETAIL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR STANDARDS. IS A YEAH, IT'S, IS THAT YOUR ACORN LIGHT ON THE SCREEN? NO, NO. THE ACORN STREET LIGHT. NO, NO. THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS, THIS IS THE, THE LOOSE, LOOSE. IF I'M, YEAH. THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN USED FOR, FOR A MIXED USE, UM, AREA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HAVE COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL, LIKE WEST AVENUE, SUNSET HARBOR, ALL THIS AREA. SO WE'RE GONNA BE CONSISTENT THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR. SO ONCE YOU GO THROUGH WEST AVENUE, YOU, YOU, YOU ENTER SUNSET HARBOR IN THIS, UH, SEAMLESS TRANSITION OF LIGHTING AND, AND WE CAN MAINTAIN AND, AND OPERATE. BUT THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT TO THIS ONE. SO NOW THERE'S GONNA BE ONE IN SUNSET HARBOR, ONE IN WEST AVENUE, AND A SEPARATE ONE IN FLAMINGO. NO, FLAMINGO IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS DIFFERENT TO SUNSET HARBOR. AND, AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MIXED USE WEST. YES. IT'S, ARE YOU GONNA BE PROPOSING THIS LIGHT FIXTURE IN SUNSET HARBOR AS WELL? IT'S ALREADY INSTALLED IN SUNSET HARBOR. THIS ONE? YES. WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE PEDESTRIAN, WHICH IS A FLAT THAT, THAT YOU SHOW IN THE, IN THIS, YEAH, IN THE, SO YES, THAT ONE. AND THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND THERE'S THE YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY THERE. THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PRESENTATION TO SAY, OKAY, THERE NEEDS TO BE, BE CONSISTENCY. YES. AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE, BUT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN WEST AVENUE AND FLAMINGO, WHICH IS ALTO ROAD. SO ALTO ROAD IS A, IS A-F-D-O-T ROAD. SO IT'S MAINTAINED BY THEM. SO THEY, THEY PICK THEIR, AND THEY'VE BEEN CHANGE. YEAH. THEY MAINTAIN THEIR OWN LIGHTING. SO WE DON'T MAINTAIN THOSE. AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE THOSE LIGHTS. EH, WE HAVE TO BASICALLY MAKE A, AN AMENDMENT TO THE STANDARDS OUR, OUR OUR PUBLIC WORK STANDARD, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION IN 2020. SO THAT, THAT'S A PROCESS. BECAUSE THERE WAS, LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE WAS A PROCESS IN WHICH WE LOOK DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE. WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, AND WE, EH, SELECTED BASED ON THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, OKAY. IS THAT, I'M NOTICING THAT THE ONES IN SUNSET HARBOR, I'M JUST ON GOOGLE MAPS ARE, ARE WHITE, WOULD, WOULD, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP? LIKE THEY'RE PAINTED WHITE? I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE IDEA IS THAT IT JUST BE CONSISTENT. THEY MAY BE ALUMINUM THAT ARE THE ONES IN SUNSET HARBOR OR ALUMINUM, OR, OR WHITE OR THE BRONX. THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'RE WHITE. THEY'RE WHITE. THEY'RE WHITE AND, AND, AND, MM-HMM, WHATSAPP. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY DID THEY CHANGE TO BLACK ALL OF A SUDDEN IN SOME PLACES THAT I, I'LL HAVE TO, THAT'S BECAUSE I THINK THE BLACK ALSO PEELS. DOES IT NOT? THEY'RE BOTH, THEY, THEY BOTH PAINTED. SO THEY'RE ALL PAINTED. SO THAT LIGHT THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THOUGH, IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ACORN PEDESTRIAN LIGHT. THAT LIGHT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT. THAT'S IN SUNSET HARBOR. YOU WANNA, BUT IT'S WHITE. THAT'S THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, AND IT'S WHITE AND SUNSET HARBOR. AND THE REASON THAT MAYBE THEY'RE SWITCHING TO BRONZE OR THE DARK COLOR MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH GRAFFITI. MAYBE I'LL HAVE TO CHECK. OKAY. I'LL HAVE TO CHECK. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT. THIS SLIDE IS NOT THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT PROPOSED WHAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT. YEAH, IT'S THE SAME ONE. IT'S NOT AN ACORN LOOKING. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. THE ACORN IS THE, UM, ON FLAMINGO PARK, THEY'RE USING THAT IS THE STREET LIGHT, WHEREAS THE DISC MORE MODERN IS THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO LIGHT ONE PEDESTRIAN, WHICH IS A SHORTER ONE. AND THEN THE ONE THAT YOU SHOW, THAT ONE IS A 25 FOOT FOR, FOR, FOR THE CARS, THEY COLOR TRAFFIC. AND SO THIS IS WHAT'S ALREADY IN SUNSET HARBOR, BUT IT'S WHITE AS OPPOSED TO BLACK. YES. YES. AND THE, AND THE LIGHT POLES ARE OPERATIONS AS WELL. THEY'RE ALL WHITE AND WEST AVENUES ARE BLACK, SO RIGHT. AND THE SIDE STREETS TO WEST AVENUE ARE ALSO DARK. THEY'RE GONNA BE CHANGED. OKAY. THEY'RE GONNA BE CHANGED ALL THE SIDE STREETS. SO IT'S, IT'S THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM FROM MOUNTAIN TO, TO THE BAY. IT'S GONNA BE ALL HOMOGENEOUS, BUT IT WILL BE THE DARK COLOR, NOT THE WHITE. IT'S AT THIS POINT, YES. UNLESS WE REQUIRE OTHERWISE, I MEAN, THAT'VE WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR, THEY'VE CHANGED SOME OF THEM IS WHAT I HEARD BEFORE IS THAT 14TH STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS ALREADY CHANGED. YES. AND IT'S, IT'S, THAT WAS THE FIRST PHASE OF WEST AVENUE. SO THAT'S WAS ALREADY COMPLETED. MM-HMM. AND THIS ONE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONTRACT, THIS WAS STARTED IN 2021. SO THE CONTRACT ALREADY, I THINK HAS PURCHASED SOME OF IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY SUBMITTED THAT BEFORE. PURCHASE ORDER. PURCHASE, YES. PURCHASE. SOME OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT, BUT THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE AS WELL. SO I JUST WANNA, SO IF WE REQUEST [01:15:01] THAT THE LIGHTING BE WHITE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SUNSET HARBOR, THERE'S GONNA BE ONE STREET WHERE IT'S ALREADY INSTALLED, THAT IT'S BLACK. THERE'S GONNA BES THERE'S GONNA BE 14 10TH STREET, UH, WEST AVENUE FROM SIXTH STREET TO EIGHTH STREET, BECAUSE THE, THE LIGHTING IS ALREADY INSTALLED THERE. THEY'RE ALREADY INSTALLED. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE FROM 20 TO 18. SO BASICALLY WE NEED TO, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GIVING US A CHOICE HERE, BUT THIS IS ALREADY EXISTING. AND IF WE WANNA BE CONSISTENT, WE HAVE TO JUST DO THIS. I'M, I'M, I'M EXPLAINING THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN SAY, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S FINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT IS BEING REQUIRED OF US, YOU KNOW? OKAY. WE'RE NOT THE COMMISSION HERE. WE'RE NOT YEAH. I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA, NOW I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING. OKAY. YES. SO 'CAUSE THE IMPRESSION THAT, THAT I THINK CERTAINLY I HAD GOTTEN WAS THAT THE WHOLE AREA WAS GONNA BE REDONE. AND OUR GOAL TO MAKE THINGS CONSISTENT, IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAD A BIT MORE OF A BLANK SLATE TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE BETTER. YES. THERE'S, THERE'S A PHASE ONE THAT WAS ALREADY COMPLETED. SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, YES. OKAY. OKAY. IS THERE, OTHER THAN GOING BACK TO COMMISSION AND SAYING, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE DESIGN OF OUR STREET LIGHTING, UM, AND THE FACT THAT, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE VARIETY OF INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN, AND NOT PEDESTRIAN, BUT STREETLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE THAT LOOK LIKE THE ACORN. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO SO THAT IT BECOMES MORE OF A MODERN LIGHT, SIMILAR TO THE ONE BY FT. UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE AS RESIDENTS PROBABLY AT, AT LEAST I AS A RESIDENT, WANT TO MIMIC FDOT . YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE, , BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HAVE MORE OF A, UM, MODERN TYPE STREET LIGHTING? YEAH. WHAT COULD, LIKE WE, I COULD BRING THIS TO, TO, TO UPPER MANAGEMENT SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE THE, THE, THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. BUT IT WILL BE UPDATING THE STANDARD, WHICH IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE IT, AND THEN WE DO UPDATES EVERY CERTAIN YEARS. USUALLY. NO, I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHEN DOES IT DUE? DO, BECAUSE WHEN IS IT DUE TO BE UPDATED? UPDATED? WE ONE, WE JUST FINISHED ONE THIS YEAR, SO IT WILL TAKE, OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THE D RV EVER HAD A, UH, A SAY IN WHAT THE COMMISSION PASSED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ARCHITECTURALLY WITH ANYTHING IN THE CITY. MM-HMM. , THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO THAT. AND I, IF NOT NOW, AT LEAST FOR THE FUTURE, WE CAN CERTAINLY TO EXPLORE, I MEAN, NOT KEEP PUTTING THESE HORRIBLE LIGHTS EVERYWHERE. I, I THINK FOR NOW WE SHOULD APPROVE WHAT IS BEFORE US WITH THE CAVEAT THAT GOING FORWARD, THE NEXT TIME, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, PROBABLY WHEN YOU DO GO WITH ANOTHER, UM, DESIGN FOR PEDESTRIAN AND STREET LIGHTING, THAT IT BE BROUGHT FOR RECOMMENDATION OR INPUT OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH, BECAUSE IT SEEMS AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY, THERE'S NO OPTIONS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS. THIS IS IT, AND YOU JUST NEED A YES TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WE'RE HOLDING UP THE WHOLE THING. SO I MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE READY TO APPROVE THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN AND, UH, STREET LIGHTING, UM, FOR THE WEST AVENUE, UH, PROJECT, AND TO REQUEST, UH, CITY ADMINISTRATION IN THE FUTURE TO, UM, OBTAIN INPUT FROM DRB ON THE DESIGN OF THE STREETLIGHTS. I APOLOGIZE. WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO BE A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN TRANSMIT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS AN LTC? SURE. SURE. YEAH. I, AND CAN I EDIT THE RECOMMENDATION SLIGHTLY? LIKE, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THE STREETLIGHTS. I THINK IF'S IF THERE IS A HOLISTIC PLAN THAT WE CAN SEE THAT, SO WE CAN COMMENT ON ALL ASPECTS OF THE MATERIAL. YEAH, THERE IS, IT GOES WITH, UM, WASTE BASKETS, UM, BUS BENCHES, UH, SIGNAGE. I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE PUMP STATION ENCLOSURES AND THAT STUFF. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. I SECOND THE MOTION. SO, SO, UM, JUST PROCEDURALLY, SO, SO CAN WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT FIRST AND THEN A SEPARATE, A SECOND MOTION FOR THAT LTC? YEAH, A SEPARATE MOTION, BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST APPROVED BY COMMISSION, SO MM-HMM. , WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE IT AT THIS POINT. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS ON IT. UM, BUT I THINK ROGELIO, WHEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COMMISSION, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IN THAT CORRESPONDENCE WHY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, AND, AND HOLISTICALLY ON AT A WHOLE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, OF STREET FURNISHINGS AND, UM, GENERATOR ENCLOSURES, [01:20:02] PUMP STATION ENCLOSURES, THAT'S JUST, YEAH, THAT'S THE STREET. YEAH. YEAH. UH, SIGNAGE. UM, ALTHOUGH SIGNAGE WAS RECENTLY, AFTER MANY YEARS OF QUARRELING WITH FO, IT FINALLY GOT APPROVED MANY, MANY YEARS OF PAINFUL, PAINFUL, PAINFUL. OKAY. SO FOR THE PROJECT, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? FOR THE SECOND? SECOND BY MS. MEYER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. YOU OPPOSED? CAN I, UH, OKAY. AND DOUBLE CHECK WE HAVE WITH CRP, JUST, DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE, UH, THE SCREENING APPROVAL? YES. YES. PERFECT. SO THE SCREENING, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE MOTION, APPRECIATE IT. UM, AND THEN FOR THE LT TO AN LTC TO THE COMMISSION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO TRANSMIT AN LTC WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION? I MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. MOTION A SECOND. THAT MOTION? OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NOPE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, MOVING [9. DRB24-1039, 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE.] ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, UH, DRB 24 1 0 3 9 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW BOARD OF APPROVAL FOR A PROPOSED VALE PICKUP AND DROP OFF SERVICE AREA TO REPLACE A DRIVE THROUGH LANES IN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. OH. UM, I THINK, I DON'T THINK ALL THE CLIENTS WERE HERE TO BE SWORN IN IF, OH, YEAH. I JUST NEED TO FOR YOU ON GUYS, QUICKLY, UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UM, THIS APPLICATION IS RELATED TO THE OFFICE BUILDING AT 1691, UH, MICHIGAN AVENUE. UM, THE OFFICE BUILDING WAS HERE BEFORE THE BOARD IN SEPTEMBER, UM, TO APPROVE A COMPLETE, UH, REDESIGN OF THE EXTERIOR, INCLUDING RE CLADDING, UH, OF THE FACADE. SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT ITEM. UM, NOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN REGARDS TO THE DRIVEWAY, UH, SLASH FORMER BANK DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S LOCATED OFF OF 17TH STREET. ON THE EASTERN END OF THE PROPERTY. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REDO THAT DRIVEWAY TO TURN IT INTO THE, THE BANK FORMERLY IS A BANK, BANK DRIVE THROUGH TELLER, UH, TO TURN IT INTO A VALET DROP OFF AREA. UM, SO AS PART OF THIS, THEY'RE REVERSING THE LANE. SO CURRENTLY YOU ACCESS THAT AREA FROM LINCOLN LANE NORTH AND YOU EXIT ONTO 17TH STREET. THEY'RE REVERSING IT, SO YOU ENTER THROUGH 17TH STREET, UM, AND EXIT OUT TO LINCOLN LANE NORTH. UM, AS PART OF THIS, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ENCLOSE THAT DRIVEWAY AREA. CURRENTLY IT'S COMPLETELY OPEN FACING A, A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT'S VERY CLOSE, UM, TO THE, UM, TO THE, TO THE BUILDING. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ENCLOSE THAT, WHICH SHOULD HELP MINIMIZE ANY SOUND. UM, AND SO THIS WILL BECOME THE VALET SLASH SIGNATURE ENTRY FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE BUILDING, INCLUDING, UM, UM, THE OFFICE TENANTS. AND THEY RECENTLY RECEIVED A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UM, TO ALLOW FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, A BAR TO BE LOCATED ON THE THIRD FLOOR, UM, WHICH IS PRIMARILY GONNA BE USED DURING THE DAY AS AN AMENITY FOR, FOR BUILDING FOR THE TENANTS. IT HAS TO BE USED FOR TENANTS DURING THE DAY, AND THEN AT NIGHT IT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM, PART OF THAT VARIANCE REQUEST REQUIRED THAT THE DRB LOOK AT THIS AND, AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY, THAT THE DRIVEWAY BE SCREENED FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. UM, SO THEY'RE DOING THAT. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, TO FILL, TO CREATE A SOLID WALL, UM, SO THAT IT'S, UM, SO THAT IT'S, UH, BUFFERED FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. UM, STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS. THERE IS A SMALL SETBACK, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING. UM, THERE'S SOME MINIMAL LANDSCAPING THERE AND THERE'S NO FENCING, SO THAT CAN CREATE SOME SECURITY CONCERNS. PEOPLE CAN GET INTO THAT. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND, UM, THAT THERE BE SOME FENCE FENCE PLACED THERE TO, TO SEAL THAT AREA OFF AND PROTECT THAT AREA. UM, AND THERE'S A UTILITY POLE IN THE FRONT THAT COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENT. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY WORK WITH FPL TO, TO IMPROVE THAT, THAT STRUCTURE, WHICH I'M SURE THEY WOULD WANT TO DO ANYWAYS. UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. READY. SO, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. FORGIVE ME, I'M WORKING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF ALLERGIES TODAY. I, I THOUGHT THE ALLEGRO WOULD KICK IN, BUT IT HAS NOT YET. SO I WILL SOLDIER ON THE, UM, HERE, REPRESEN THE APPLICANT WITH ME FROM THE APPLICANT IS ROBERT ANI AND PATRICK COREY. WE HAVE JOSE GOMEZ, OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD. WE HAVE CARLOS RODRIGUEZ. OUR DESIGNER STAFF, AS RA NOTED, IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WE ACCEPT ALL THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AS RA ALSO TOLD YOU, ROBERT, UH, HAS PURCHASED A LONG-TERM LEASE INTEREST IN THIS OFFICE BUILDING SOME MONTHS AGO. NOW IT'S SITUATED THE CORNER OF, [01:25:01] UH, 17TH STREET AND MICHIGAN AVENUE, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. NICK, CAN YOU PULL UP THE, UPON THE PURCHASE OF THIS LEASEHOLD INTEREST, ROBERT, IMMEDIATELY IN PREPARING PLANS TO IMPROVE THE BUILDING, HE COINED THE PHRASE CLASS X. IT'S WHAT HE WOULD LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING TO BE IN THE FUTURE WITH ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES THAT EVEN A CLASS, A OFFICE BUILDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME WOULD NOT HAVE. UM, YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY PROVED A REDESIGN OF THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION. NOW WE ARE BACK BEFORE YOU ALL ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR A REDESIGN OF THE GROUND FLOOR DRIVEWAY THAT GOES FROM 17TH STREET TO LINCOLN LANE NORTH. THIS WILL BE CONVERTED FROM WHAT WAS PROBABLY USED AS A DRIVEWAY EXTENSION FOR JEFFERSON BANK, WHICH WAS THERE AS THE ORIGINAL BANK TENANT ON THE GROUND FLOOR. UM, NOW LIKE TO CONVERT IT TO A VALET TO SERVE THE ENTIRE BUILDING. WHEN YOU PARK IN THE GARAGE, IT'S A LITTLE OF AN AWKWARD EXPERIENCE IN THAT IF YOU'RE VISITING THE OFFICE BUILDING OR A TENANT THERE, YOU HAVE TO EXIT THE GARAGE, GO OUT INTO THE SIDEWALK, COME BACK INTO THE LOBBY. THERE'S NO INTERCONNECTION THAT'S INTERNAL BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THIS OFFICE BUILDING. AS A RESULT, ROBERT IS PROPOSING THIS VALET AREA TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TENANTS AND VISITORS. YOU DO THE, THESE ARE JUST DIFFERENT PICTURES OF THE, UH, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS MISTAKE RALPH DID AS CLEAR. UH, THESE ARE DIFFERENT PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM 17TH STREET, AND THEN THE ONE WITH A PORTA-POTTY IS FROM LINCOLN LANE NORTH. UM, DIFFERENT VIEWS OF IT. IT'S GOING TO VASTLY IMPROVE FROM ITS CURRENT CONDITION. UM, WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST REGARDING THEIR PEACE AND QUIET. THEY DON'T LIKE THE CURRENT CONDITION, THE OPENNESS HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED THEM. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WE'VE ENTERED INTO A SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH THEM IS THAT WE WILL CONSTRUCT A WALL THAT WILL BE THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY. IT AS, UM, AS AN ADDITIONAL PROFFER. IT INCLUDES FOAM WITHIN THE CORE OF THE WALL, WHICH ACTS AS A NOISE ABSORPTION MATERIAL. UM, SO BASED UPON THAT, THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A SUPPORT AGREEMENT WITH US AND THEY'RE PLEASED. STAFF ALSO RAISED THAT AS ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS. SO WE'RE ALSO ADDRESSING STAFF'S CONCERNS BY HAVING A WALL GO ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AND WITH THAT, I'D TURN IT OVER TO OUR DESIGN TEAM AND THEY'LL WALK YOU ALL THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PRESENTATION. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CARLOS RODRIGUEZ. I'M THE PRINCIPAL OF SCALOR STUDIO. UM, THE CONTINUATION OF THIS DESIGN APPROACH IS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE DESIGN LANGUAGE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED ON THE FACADE. WE WANT THE, UH, EXPERIENCE TO BE CONTINUOUS. SO AS THE MAIN APPROACH INTO THE GARAGE, THE BUILDING PULLS YOU IN AND WE CONCEAL CURRENTLY, UM, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT IS EXPOSED IN THIS ENTRY. AND WE SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC FLOW WITHIN THIS AREA. THERE IS REALLY, UH, A CONFUSING PATTERN, WHETHER IT BE THE DROP OFF AS MICHAEL DISCUSSED ON, UH, MICHIGAN VERSUS PENNSYLVANIA. SO THIS DESIGN ATTEMPT IS TO REALLY CREATE A CONDITION WHERE THE EXPERIENCE IS IN DESIGN CONTINUES FROM FACADE EXPOSURE UNTIL THE FRONT DOOR OF THE STRUCTURE. SO AS YOU SEE HERE, WE'RE CARRYING A VARIATION OF SPLIT FACE, WHICH IS SEEN ABOVE, UM, RIGHT HERE IN THE SAMPLE IN THE FRONT. AND WE ARE CARRYING THE SAME DESIGN LANGUAGE OF THIS CURVATURE, KIND OF LURING YOU IN INTO THAT CONDITION. THE, THIS WALL THAT SEPARATES THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, UM, WE HAVE INTRODUCED A WATER FEATURE THAT BECOMES A, A WHIMS WHIMSICAL STANDPOINT WHERE IT SOFTENS ONE THE NOISE OF A CAR, UH, COMING INTO THE SPACE AND IT, UM, TAKES YOU OUT OF THE CONDITION OF, UH, MIAMI B STREET. UM, AS YOU SEE, WE'VE INTERLACED A BRONZE MATERIAL THAT BECOMES A DIVIDER ON THE BLACK, UH, GRA, UH, COURT SIDE MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE HAVE FIRST TRIED A LIGHTER MATERIAL, BUT WE FEEL WITH THE USE OF THE SPACE CAR TIRES AND MARKS, THIS IS THE MORE FORGIVING ATTEMPT AND IT ALSO LINKS IN THAT BEAUTIFUL WHITE VEIN. UM, SO IT'S NOT SUCH A DIRECTLY HARSH BLACK LINE. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. CAN YOU SHOW, SORRY, CAN YOU SHOW THE EXIT OF THE VEHICLE? THE DRAWING THAT SHOWS THE EXIT INTO LINCOLN ROAD LANE [01:30:02] OR LINCOLN LANE? OKAY. I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION TOO. IS THE GARAGE STILL GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? YES. THROUGH A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE OR THERE'S A DI OR NO? SO YOU WANT, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE, THERE'S ENTRANCES ON MICHIGAN AND THE JEFFERSON SIDE, THAT'LL STILL BE SELF PARK PER THE LEASE WITH THE CITY, IT'S REQUIRED TO REMAIN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OKAY, BUT THEN IF YOU WERE TO COME IN OFF OF, WHAT IS IT, 17TH? 17TH, DOES IT ALSO CONNECT TO, OR IS THAT COMING FROM 17TH JUST FOR THE TENANTS? SO ANY, ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE VALET, CORRECT? I THINK ANYBODY VISITING THE BUILDING WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE VALET. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT ONTO LINCOLN LANE AND THEN USE ONE OF THOSE. THE ENTRANCES ON JEFFERSON IS WHERE THEY WOULD USE TO GO INTO THE GARAGE. OKAY. BUT THE PE THE GENERAL PUBLIC PARKING IS, IT'S THE SAME EVENT. THEY ALL COME TOGETHER AND IT'S SHARING THE SAME CORRECT. SAME. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE, THE, UH, VALET LANE, IT'S TWO LANES BOTH HEADING SOUTHBOUND, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THIS CONDITION, WE'RE ALSO, UM, IN INTRODUCING, IF YOU SEE WHERE THE MOUSE IS, THE BEGINNING ENTRY, WHERE THAT CURVATURE THAT, UM, EXACTLY THAT DRIVEWAY CHANGES THE CONDITION. SO NOW PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING, UH, VICE VERSA AND 17TH ARE NOT TRYING TO GO AGAINST TRAFFIC TRYING TO COME INTO THE SPACE. THERE'S ONLY ONE FLOW FROM, UM, 17TH INTO THE PARKING. NOW, UNLESS, UNLESS YOU'RE COMING, YOU'RE HEADING WEST ON 17TH, THEN YOU HAVE TO CROSS, YOU'RE HEADING WESTBOUND, YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET TO TURN IN TO THE, SO THAT, THAT'S PROHIBITING THAT. SO YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT FROM 17TH BECAUSE OH, BECAUSE OF THE CURVE. CURRENTLY YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM WHERE YOU HAVE THAT, UH, CONDITION. SO IN THIS INTRODUCTION, WE'RE PROHIBITING THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING THAT KIND OF MEDIUM THAT CREATES THE BARRIER. SO THE PERSON HEADING WESTBOUND, UM, HOW DOES HE GET INTO, OR SHE GET INTO THE VALET DROP OFF? GO AHEAD. WE HAVE A TRAFFIC FLOW AT THE END. YEAH, SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT. THAT'S, SO THIS WOULD BE THE VALET ROUTE, BUT A PERSON COMING WEST WOULD EITHER HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN AT THE JEFFERSON LIGHT OR HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN, UM, OR MAKE A LEFT AND COME AROUND THE BLOCK. MM-HMM. , UH, YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE A LEFT FROM 17TH. THERE'S NOT REALLY A TURN LANE DEDICATED TO GO INTO THIS, SO IT WOULD BE AN ILLEGAL TURN. UH, SO WE CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THE TURN. SO MAKING A U-TURN THE QUICKEST ROUTE WOULD BE MAKING A U-TURN ON 17TH AND MICHIGAN. MM-HMM. , RIGHT? CORRECT. AND THAT'S ALLOWED CURRENTLY? YEAH. NOT FOR OUR VALET, BUT FOR, FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, NO, BUT IT'S ALLOWED FOR ANYBODY AS LONG AS THEY CAN MAKE THE TURN. HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT ANYWAY? YOU KNOW, TRY WHEN TRAVELING LESS TO COME INTO THE, THEY'RE GONNA TRY. UM, OF COURSE IT'S HUMAN ERROR. UM, BUT HOW WE DESIGNED IT, IT, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT DISCOURAGES IT, IT DISCOURAGES IT, AND IT ALSO BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DIFFICULT CONDITION IN THE APPROACH. YOU SEE THAT BARRIER BEFORE YOU SEE THE ENTRY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, GO BACK INTO THE, YOU'LL SEE IT PREVIOUSLY RIGHT HERE. OH YEAH. SO, SO IT BECOMES AN AGGRESSIVE PUSH INTO THAT LANE, SO IT'S GONNA DEVIATE PEOPLE FROM CROSSING OVER. AND HOW COME YOU MADE THAT CHOICE? YOU JUST DIDN'T WANNA BACK UP TRAFFIC ON 17TH? YOU WANNA ANSWER OR, I MEAN, WAS THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION? UM, THAT I, I DON'T, THAT WASN'T A PART OF OUR, PART OF OUR REQUEST. THAT WAS, THAT CAME ABOUT FROM, FROM ANALYSIS. IT'S IN A DESIGN DECISION BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN ILLEGAL TURN. THERE IS NO TURN LANE ON 17TH DEDICATED FOR THIS DRIVEWAY. SO YOU'D HAVE TO CROSS A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE. YOU'D HAVE TO STOP IN 17TH STREET AND THEN TURN LEFT AND BASICALLY STOP TRAFFIC. SO, SO YOU CANNOT TURN RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ILLEGAL TURN IF YOU TURN, TURN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK. CORRECT. THAT'S EXISTING, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LAND AT MICHIGAN AND EITHER TURN OR, AND MAYBE MOST OF YOUR TRAFFIC GENERATES GOING EASTBOUND? YES. NOT WESTBOUND. GENERALLY WE BELIEVE SO, YES. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A A, A TRIP CARDINAL DIRECTION, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION, BUT YEAH, WE THINK SO. OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, DO YOU DESIGN TO PREVENT THAT, KNOWING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA TRY OR, OR, OR I GUESS THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU, CAN YOU PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AND THE WAY TO DO IT? UM, IF YOU ALL KNOW MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY NOW IN THE LAST SIX TO NINE MONTHS, THEY'VE INSTALLED, I DON'T, I DUNNO, POLES BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD GO IN THE CENTER LANE AND THEN TRY TO JUMP OVER TO THE LEFT LANE TO GET ONTO THE ALTON ROAD FLYOVER, RIGHT? SO FDOT INSTALLED A SERIES OF [01:35:01] POLES, UM, TO PREVENT THAT LAST MINUTE TYPE OF CROSSOVER THAT LED TO A LOT OF ACCIDENTS. UM, SO SIMILARLY HERE, WE COULD WORK WITH THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH, SEE IF THEY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF PUTTING LIKE POLES THERE. THEY'RE NOT THE MOST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THING, BUT THEY WILL ADDRESS THIS POTENTIAL LEGAL TRAFFIC MANEUVER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN FRONT OF THE TRADER JOE'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO TURN MIDBLOCK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN FRONT OF TRADER JOE'S WHERE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO TURN MIDBLOCK. MM-HMM. . AND THEN, BECAUSE IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO THE ENTRANCE TO THAT SPACE, AND GRANTED THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT TRADER JOE'S THAN THERE WILL BE OF THIS BUILDING. BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A HUGE MESS AND A BIG PROBLEM. THAT ENTRANCE THOUGH, I THINK IS A STRAIGHT ON ENTRANCE, WHEREAS THIS ONE IS CURVED BECAUSE OF ITS DESIGN, IT DISCOURAGES YOU FROM DOING THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL TRY TO MAKE THE, THE TURN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK AS THEY MAY BE DOING NOW ALL ALONG 17TH STREET. AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, BECAUSE IT'S SUPER FRUSTRATING TO ME, IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO HEAD WESTBOUND THROUGH THE ALLEYS, THAT'S THE ONE ALLEY THAT IS ONE WAY, UH, EASTBOUND. SO YOU'D BE IN KIND OF THIS VICIOUS CIRCLE OF TRYING TO, UNLESS YOU MAKE A U-TURN SOMEWHERE, I MEAN SIGNAGE WOULD ADDRESS IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC VALETING IN THAT BUILDING, QUITE HONESTLY. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY MINIMAL. AND, AND I THINK THE DESIGN, BY THE WAY, IS BEAUTIFUL. THE MATERIALS ARE REALLY NICE AND THE, THE THOUGHT INTO IT IS REALLY NICE. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. JUST, YEAH, NO, I AGREE. I LOVE THIS BLACK AND I THINK, UM, ALSO GOING WITH THE DARK COLOR, THE, ESPECIALLY THIS MATERIAL, IT GIVES IT AN EXTRA SORT OF LEVEL OF LUX THAT I KNOW IS, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THE CONCEPTION OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, SO, VERY NICE. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UM, WELL THE QUESTION I REALLY APPRECIATE, AND WE DID GET AN, WE DID GET, UM, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN THE ADJACENT BUILDING THAT IN, AND I'M JUST BRINGING UP A POINT THAT WAS MADE BY STAFF ABOUT PUTTING IN THAT AREA, LIGHTING OR SECURITY CAMERAS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YEAH, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF'S CONDITIONS. WE'LL JUST WORK WITH STAFF AS TO THE LEVEL OF LIGHTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, THE LIGHTING DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE. RIGHT. BLAIR, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND TOO, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YEAH, YOU WANT IT LIVE LIGHTING, BUT NOT IN THEIR LIVING ROOM. RIGHT. OKAY. I WANTED ALSO TO COMMEND YOU GUYS ON THE DESIGN PROPOSAL AND APPRECIATE BRINGING SORT OF THE CURVED LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE MAIN FEATURE OF THE BUILDING INTO THIS SPACE. THANK ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO. DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE VALET, UM, DROP OFF, UH, PROPOSED FOR THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, REPLACING THE DRIVE THROUGH LANES THAT ARE THERE. NOW I SECOND . ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK. OKAY. MOVING ALONG. UM, DRB 24 1 0 4 3 10 15 STILLWATER DRIVE. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO APPROVE THE APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY AND A VARIANCE FOR A HEIGHT OF THE HOME. SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AS IS PERMISSIBLE PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WHICH ONE? ALL RIGHTY. UM, SO THIS IS AN [10. DRB24-1043, 1015 STILLWATER DRIVE.] APPLICATION FOR A HOME THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THAT WAS APPROVED ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2022. AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 24 FEET, UM, TO GO TO 25 FEET, A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 25 FEET. NOW THE APPLICANTS, UH, SINCE THAT TIME, THE, THE, THE CITY COMMISSION HAS AUTHORIZED THE BOARD TO APPROVE A WAIVER TO ALLOW, UH, FOR A HEIGHT UP TO 28 FEET. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMPLY HERE, UM, TO, TO APPLY FOR AN EXTRA, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A FOOT, UH, ONE FOOT EIGHT INCHES. SO, SO NOTHING ELSE IN THE DESIGN CHANGES. THEY'RE JUST HERE, UH, TO APPLY FOR EXTRA HEIGHT, UH, FOR THEIR UNDERSTORY LEVEL. UM, THEY FEEL THAT THEIR UNDERSTORY LEVEL WOULD BE, WOULD BE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED IF THEY HAD THAT EXTRA HEAD SPACE. UM, AND IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE USABLE FOR THE RESIDENT. SO IF NOTHING ELSE IN THE DESIGN CHANGES, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE SAME. UH, I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION FOUNDATION WORK, UM, SO THEY, SO THEY WANTED TO GET THIS APPROVED BEFORE PROCEEDING. [01:40:01] OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY, MY NAME IS, OH, I APOLOGIZE. WERE YOU SWORN IN IN THE MORNING? UH, NO, SORRY. OKAY. YEAH, I'LL JUST DO REAL QUICKLY, UM, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M DENISE PRESSEL. I'M THE ARCHITECT OF THIS PROJECT AND AS EXPLAINED BY ROGELIO, WE HAD IT, UM, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE DRB ON OCTOBER, 2022. AT THAT TIME, THE CODING EFFECT ALLOWED FOR A MAXIMUM 24 FEET HIGH AND WE WERE GRANTED AN ADDITIONAL ONE FOOT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT, UH, IS A TWO STORY HOME WITH AN UNDERST STORY. SO WE WERE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO FIT EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. UM, THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY STARTED, UH, FOUNDATION CONSTRUCTION AND THE CLIENT, UH, HERE IN THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. UH, THE CLIENT IS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO FIT EVERYTHING ON THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL AND THE CEILING HEIGHT THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. SO BASICALLY IT'S A SMALL MODIFICATION. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, UH, THE SECTION SHOWING HOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH A BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, FROM FREEBOARD TO THE TOP OF SLAB OF 25 FEET. AND ON THE NEW, UH, PROPOSAL ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, EVERYTHING ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. THE ONLY THING WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO RAISE THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR TO 16.41 VERSUS 14.76, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. THAT'S ABOUT 20 INCHES. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE FOR THE CEILING HEIGHT AND CORRECTLY PLACING ALL THE SYSTEMS WITHIN THE LEN SPACE UNDER LIKE BETWEEN THE FIRST FLOOR ON, ON THE UNDER STORY, UM, THE BUILDING, NEW BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD BE 26 FEET, EIGHT INCHES. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GO UP TO 31. UM, SO WE'RE BASICALLY ONLY ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN. UH, THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION SHOWS JUST WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, SOME COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF AND IN THE SITE PLAN AND THE UNDERSTORY, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ONLY CHANGE, IT'S CLOUDED IN RED, IT'S, WE ADDED THREE STEPS TO THE ORIGINAL, UH, STAIRCASE THAT LEADS FROM THE UNDERSTORY TO THE FIRST FLOOR IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT HEIGHT. UM, SINCE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE EAGER TO SEE THESE FAVORABLY REVIEWED BY OUR END. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? NO. ONLINE WE HAVE TWO THINGS ONLINE. UM, THE FIRST PERSON IS DAX RE WHAT'S HIS NAME? DAX RE HELLO, I, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. UH, YES, WE CAN HEAR DAX. UM, I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU SPEAK PLEASE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING AND IS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. ALRIGHT. UH, YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, I'M THE OWNER OF 10 25 STILLWATER DRIVE THE PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, UH, TO THE PROJECT, UM, TO THE, THE WEST. UM, AND I, I'M NOT CERTAIN, UH, IF THE WAY THAT THIS VARIATION OR, OR IS BEING DESCRIBED CORRECTLY, IT SEEMS THAT ALL OF THE FLOORS ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED NOT JUST THE GROUND FLOOR. UM, AND THE PROJECT IS ALREADY ONGOING SUCH THAT THE TIE BEAMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FORMED FOR THIS, UH, GROUND FLOOR. SO I'M PRESUMING THAT THOSE TIE BEAMS ARE AT THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE FOR AND NOT, UM, THE PREVIOUS HEIGHT THAT THEY WERE APPROVED FOR. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE, UH, TERRACE THAT'S ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE BEING BUILT NOT AS PER PLANT, UM, THIS LOT IS, UM, IT'S NOT A RECTANGLE. IT HAS A, IT'S MORE NARROW ON THE BAY SIDE THAN IT IS ON THE STREET SIDE. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS, THE BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT, THOSE WALLS RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE, THE LOT LINES. AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ALSO HAVE A, A, AN AREA ON THE TERRACE, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE SECOND FLOOR OR FIRST FLOOR FROM THE GROUND FLOOR. UM, THAT'S GONNA BE AT 11 FEET, UM, ELEVATION. AND IT HAS SORT OF A WRAPAROUND BALCONY ASPECT TO IT, WHICH IS LESS THAN [01:45:01] I THINK FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. SO ESSENTIALLY I'M GONNA HAVE A, A BIG BALCONY, UM, THAT'S GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE, UH, OVERLOOKING BASICALLY MY POOL AREA, MAKING MY PROPERTY FEEL LIKE IF I'M IN A ZOO, YOU KNOW, BEING, UH, LOOKED UPON BY, BY THE, THE ONGO. AND OF COURSE THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY THAT'S BEING BUILT FOR THE, THE RESIDENT WHO'S GONNA RESIDE THERE. THIS IS A SPEC HOME THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED BY THE DEVELOPER, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND FLIP. AND SO I'M A CONTRACTOR MYSELF, MY EXPERIENCE WITH CONSTRUCTION WORKERS LEFT TO THEIR DEVICES, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD YOU STRAIGHT LINES, RECTANGLES, SQUARES, 90 DEGREE RIGHT ANGLES, WHICH IS WHAT IS NORMALLY BUILT. UM, AND I HAD SENT, YOU KNOW, SOME PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN FROM MY PROPERTY TO SHOW THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING, THAT IT APPEARS THAT THIS BUILDING IS NOT BEING BUILT, YOU KNOW, AS IT, UH, IS PLANNED HERE, UH, BUT RATHER IS, IS SORT OF ROTATED ON ITS AXIS TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST, WHICH MAKES, YOU KNOW, THESE BALCONIES THAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY HAS EVEN MORE HARMFUL TO I GUESS MY PRIVACY. UM, AND SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE, THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, NOT APPROVE ANY FURTHER, UM, HEIGHT VARIANCES, UM, THAT TO THIS PROJECT. UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE TERRACE THAT'S, THAT'S OF CONCERN. YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROOF ALSO IS GONNA BE, WHAT, 30 FEET UP IN THE AIR THAT'S GONNA HAVE A, A, A ROOF TERRACE. AND, UH, THE, THE, THE SETBACKS TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ARE, ARE NOT BEING RESPECTED. UM, AND FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, UM, AND I I IMAGINE THEY HAVE A SPECIAL INSPECTOR WHO'S GOING AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, DOING THE, THE INSPECTION FOR THE, THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, WHO'S NOT GONNA CARE, UM, LIKE I DO OR LIKE A CITY INSPECTOR WOULD. UM, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE, THE, THE RESPECTING OF THE, THE, THE SETBACKS AND, AND HOW THE, THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING ARE SUPPOSED TO SORT OF PARALLEL THE, UM, THE DIAGONAL NATURE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES, UH, WHICH IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING BUILT THAT WAY. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ONCE THEY POUR THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE EASILY CHANGED AS IT IS. THE, THE SEA WALL, UM, WAS ALSO, UH, NOT SHOWN ON THESE PLANS, BUT IT, IT PROTRUDES PAST THE PROPERTY LINE FOUR FEET INTO THE WATER, UH, WHICH I CAN SEE FROM MY KITCHEN WINDOW. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, ONCE THAT CONCRETE'S POURED, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THE, THE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ASKING THEM TO TEAR IT DOWN, BUT, UH, THIS IS THE STAGE IN WHICH THESE THINGS CAN BE, UH, THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL DECK. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. D DAX, WHAT YEAR TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY OR TO THE EAST YOUR HOME? CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR MEZA? HELLO? TEXT TO SPEAK? YEAH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT AGAIN THAT YOUR HOME IS TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY OR IS IT TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY? RIGHT. UM, TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK PAUL IS HERE. HE'S TO THE EAST OF THE, OF, OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY WEST. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. UH, STAY ON THE LINE. WE WILL BRING THIS UP. THE NEXT PERSON IS MATT VOIGHT. MATT, I SEE YOU'VE UNMUTED YOURSELF. I THINK YOU CAN SPEAK. I, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. HOW ABOUT NOW? NOW WE CAN. HI MAX. UM, I NEED TO, OH, I'M SORRY. I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU CONTINUE. PLEASE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU, UH, YOU MAY PROCEED. YES, I DO. AND YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MY NAME IS MATT, UH, PAUL VO DAX REFERRED TO ME AS PAUL, AGAIN BY MY MIDDLE NAME PAUL. UM, I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1005 STILLWATER NEXT DOOR. I'M TELLING YOU THE EAST SIDE, I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION. I THINK DAX HAD SAID THAT THE, HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT THE HOUSE, HIS PROPOSED HOUSE MAY BE ROTATED TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST. I THINK DAX I THINK YOU MEANT NORTH TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST, TOWARDS YOUR PROPERTY. UM, ANYWAY, I LIVE NORTH NEXT DOOR TO THE EAST, UH, DAX AND MR. CRA AND I OF COURSE STAND, HAVE STAND AT THE MOST [01:50:01] TO LOSE THE MOST BY BEING AFFECTED BY THIS PROPERTY. AND I'M BRINGING IT UP, UP A DIFFERENT POINT. THIS IS A 50 FOOT WIDE PROPERTY WITH SETBACKS OF, I BELIEVE EIGHT OR 10 FEET. SO IT'S VERY CLOSE. AND SO EVERY FOOT OF INCREASE IN HEIGHT IS AN INCREMENTAL LOSS FOR US AS NEIGHBORS OF SKY VIEWS, OF SUNSET VIEWS OF, OF AN INCREASE IN THE CANYON, LIKE EFFECT, THE CLAUSTROPHOBIC EFFECT OF HAVING HIGHER WALLS NEXT DOOR. AND THEY REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS HOUSE WAS FIRST PLANNED OR WHEN THE PLANT WAS GOING THROUGH PLANNING, I BELIEVE IN 2022, THAT THE HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS 24 FEET BECAUSE OF THE SMALL WIDTH OF THE LOTS. AND SO NOW FROM WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY, THE HEIGHT HAS BEEN INCREASED TO AN ALLOWABLE 28 FEET. AND HE'S ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FROM 25 FEET TO 26 8 INCHES. I BELIEVE I HAD TO SIGN OFF ON THE PREVIOUS WAIVER, UM, WHEN HE WAS ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL ONE FOOT. NOW THE PLANS HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL ONE FOOT, BUT TO GO ONE ANOTHER, ALMOST TWO FEET, ONE FOOT EIGHT INCHES, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AN INCREMENTAL LOSS. AND THIS SAYS, AS MR. CRA SAID, THIS IS A SPEC HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SIGNED OFF I THOUGHT I WAS SIGNING OFF FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND FOR THIS, UH, NEIGHBOR INTENT, BUT IT'S A SPEC HOUSE AND HE'S, THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE, THE AREA, THAT VOLUME OF THE HOUSE AND IN ORDER FOR PERSONAL GAIN, WHEREAS WE WILL LOSE, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST DO THE ADDITIONAL SIGHT LINES LIKE I SAID BEFORE. UM, SO I STAND OPPOSED TO THIS, UH, PROPOSED MODIFICATION. I ALLOWED THE FIRST ONE AND I, AND I JUST WONDER WHY I WASN'T ASKED TO CONSENT TO THE SECOND ONE. UH, AND I HAVE OTHER POINTS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. BUT ANYWAY, PLEASE PUT ME ON RECORD. ME AND MY FAMILY IS BEING OPPOSED TO THIS INCIDENTAL, I MEAN THIS, I'M SORRY, THIS IN, UH, ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN, IN, UH, HIGH VARIANCE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. AGAIN, WE WILL ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO OTHER HANDS ARE RAISED. OKAY. I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. UM, THAT'S A, THE D'S CLAIM THAT THE BUILDING IS NOT BEING BUILT ACCORDING TO THE APPROVED PLANS IS A PRETTY STRONG CLAIM. HOW, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THESE THINGS? OR, OR WHAT CAN BE, CAN WE SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE TO, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT? I MEAN, IN THE BUILDING PROCESS, AT EACH STAGE YOU HAVE INCREMENTAL SURVEYS. UM, SO WHEN THE FOUNDATION, THEY HAVE TO LAY IT ALL OUT BEFORE IT'S POURED OR BEFORE THEY GET THE PERMIT APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, EACH STEP DURING THE BUILDING THERE'S A REVIEW PROCESS. AND SO THEN, UH, WHEN IT'S, IT'S LAID OUT, THEY GET APPROVAL, THEN IT'S POURED. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS PROBABLY WHEN THEY SET THE TY BEAMS. BUT THEY HAVE TO GET SURVEYS INCREMENTALLY THROUGH NOW, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBOR'S COMMENT ABOUT IS THE CITY GONNA MAKE IT CHANGE? BUT I WOULD SAY YES, BECAUSE OTHERWISE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, , OOPS, I PUT IT IN THE WRONG LINE, UM, TO THE TERRACE. NOW, I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE APPROVED THIS, BUT UM, THE TEAR, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE LOTS HAVE A SEVEN FOOT, SEVEN INCH SIDE SETBACK THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PARALLEL TO THE PIE SHAPE, BUT THE TERRACE WAS APPROVED TO INTRUDE ON THAT SETBACK. IT DOESN'T DIMENSION, THE PLANS DON'T DIMENSION HOW MUCH IT'S INTRUDING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, OH YEAH, THEY DO ONE FOOT EIGHT INCHES. YEAH. SO, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. I, I, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF ALSO. NO, BUT WHAT WE COULD ASK FOR IS, AND MAYBE YOU AS THE ARCHITECT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTOR IS THE ONE THAT GETS THOSE INCREMENTAL REVIEWS. UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU IN THE, AS-BUILT SURVEY PROCESS? YEAH. UH, OKAY. SO, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THE, AS AS WE SAID, IT'S BEING BUILT, THAT WHAT WE DID IS AS A PRELIMINARY, UH, REVIEW WITH A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, WE CONSULTED THIS INCREASING HEIGHT, IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN THE BEAMS AND IN THE LOADS THAT ARE GONNA FALL IN THE FOUNDATION. HE GAVE US HIS PRELIMINARY CALCULATIONS AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE PILES AND THE FOUNDATIONS. AND THE CLIENT DECIDED TO, UH, EVEN IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, I WOULD SAY OVER DIMENSIONING THE STRUCTURE AND IT'S GONNA BE MORE COSTLY, HE DECIDED TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE LARGER PILES, SUBTERANEOUS, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED. I KNOW THAT WAS, UH, WHAT WAS SENT TO THE, TO THE GC AND IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED WITH THE INSPECTOR, AND IT'S LIKE AN OVERSIZING IN THE FOUNDATION, THAT IT'S UNDERGROUND. THAT'S WHAT WAS DISCUSSED. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROGRESSING AND THE JOB SITE, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT GONNA OBVIOUSLY PROCEED UNTIL WE HAD THIS HEARING AND UNTIL [01:55:01] WE HAD A RESOLUTION. SORRY, IS THE TERRACE IN THAT SORT OF FIRST FLOOR? NO, THIS IS, I'M JUST ADDRESSING, I'M ADDRESSING LIKE UNDERGROUND REFERRING TO WHAT'S BEING BUILT NOW. OKAY. MM-HMM. . NOW FOR THE TERRACE, WE DO HAVE, WELL, BUT HOLD ON ONE SECOND. YEAH. CAN YOU MAKE A CLARIFICATION? WHERE DO, DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE OF LIKE, THOSE SITE TODAY AND HOW IT'S COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND HOW IT HAS PROGRESSED? BECAUSE I THINK THE NEIGHBOR, THE FIRST 1D, SUGGESTED THAT THAT FIRST FLOOR IS ALREADY FRAMED. YEAH. NO, I DON'T HAVE, UH, I, I HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF THE PLANS. I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE COULD REQUEST THAT FROM THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND HAVE IT SENT OVER FOR, FOR YOUR REVIEW AS WELL. BUT I KNOW THE CONVERS, LIKE WHAT I'M EXPLAINING IS THE CONVERSATION OF THE UNDERGROUND FOUNDATION HAPPENED AND WE HAD TO, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IN THAT FOUNDATION. UM, THAT'S TO ADDRESS THAT. AND THEN I SEE THE, THE PROJECTION ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, IF YOU SEE IT ON OUR PRESENTATION, IT HAS A REVISION CLOUD. THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF. IT IS, UM, IT IS PROPOSED AT ONE FOOT EIGHT, AND THAT'S A 25% OF THE, OF THE SITE SETBACK, WHICH IS AS ALLOWED BY CODE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S JUST AN, UH, EVE, OR I WOULD SAY LIKE AN OVERHANG, A CONCRETE, UH, OVERHANG. I CAN SHOW YOU. LET ME SEE SOME VISUALS. ONE SECOND. OKAY. SO IF YOU SEE THAT'S THE, THE REAR VIEW. SO TOWARDS THE, UM, RIGHT SIDE, YOU HAVE THE, THE CONCRETE, WELL, TO BOTH SIDES, YOU HAVE A CONCRETE OVERHANGS, AND THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT FEEL IT LIKE A LIGHTER STRUCTURE. UH, WE ALSO INCORPORATED THE, THE OPENNESS IN THE SITE ELEVATIONS PER CODE. SO WE ARE REALLY NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIATIONS FROM THE, THE CURRENT CODE ON THE PROJECTIONS OR IN THE SITE ELEVATIONS. UM, IF I CAN, UM, ASK, UH, UH, OR TO COMMENT ON THE INSPECTIONS DONE DURING CONSTRUCTION, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DURING THE STRUCTURAL PORES AND BEAMS, UM, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER OF THE PROJECT COMES OUT AND SIGNS THE REQUIRED FORMS, AND SOMETIMES IT, IT IS ACCEPTED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY IN TURN DO NOT PHYSICALLY COME OUT ON SITE. WHEN THEY DO COME OUT ON SITE. WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF WHAT'S BEING DONE, NOT NECESSARILY IF, IF THEY ARE STAYING WITHIN THE REQUIRED SIDE, SETBACKS, BOUNDARIES, SHIFTING OF THE PROPERTY. THAT IS MORE ROGELIO, YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR RIGHT. UH, THEY DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THE BOUNDARY SURVEY TO SEE, UM, IF IT IS BEING BILLED ACCORDING TO THE PLANS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BY PLANNING. UNFORTUNATELY, PLANNING DOES NOT GET TO THE JOB SITES UNTIL THE VERY END WHEN THE PERMITS ARE CLOSED. UM, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM TOM MOONEY SOME TIME AGO ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT. SO THAT BEING THE CASE, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GO OUT AND CHECK TO SEE IF IN FACT, THE ROTATION OF THE BUILDING, BE IT TO THE NORTHEAST OR TO THE NORTHWEST, IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. TWO, IF THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE BEING ADHERED TO THREE, IF THE BALCONY IS BEING ADHERED TO AS TO HOW IT, IT IS BEING, UM, CONSTRUCTED. AND AS TO THE REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT TO 26.8 AND 26 8 INCHES, 26 FEET, EIGHT INCHES. THEY CURRENTLY ARE AT 24 ROGELIO. THEY ARE AT, THEY, THEY ARE AT 25. THEY RECEIVED THE VARIANCE, THE HEIGHT LIMIT USED TO BE 24. THEY RECEIVED A VARIANCE TO GO TO 25 BACK IN 2022. AND THEY NOW WANNA GO TO 26 8. 26 8. YES. AND WHAT IS THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CODE ALLOWS 31, THE CODE ALLOWS, UM, 31 1 FEET. THIS IS IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT. SO IT, IT IS, IT IS, UH, IN PROGRESS TO LIKELY BE CHANGING BACK TO 28 IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT. UM, SO 28 IS, IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT ANYTHING GO ABOVE 28 AT THIS POINT. OKAY. AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO AT 26.8. YEAH, SO MY, AS ONE BOARD MEMBER, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS, UM, AT 26 FEET, EIGHT INCHES. BUT [02:00:01] WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TOGETHER WITH BUILDING IF NECESSARY, I DON'T KNOW THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO GO OUT. I LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CITY, BUT THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GO OUT TO ASSURE THAT THINGS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED. AS TO THE PLANS AND THE BOUNDARY SURVEY THAT WAS, UM, TURNED IN AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT? SO THE TOOLS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD USE WOULD BE THOSE INCREMENTAL SURVEYS DONE, LIKE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEASURE THINGS. SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO, FOR THE PLANNING TO SPECIFICALLY REVIEW OR REQUEST AN AS-BUILT SURVEY AT THE CURRENT STAGE OF THE PROJECT, YES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A BOUNDARY SURVEY ELEVATION AND BOUNDARY SURVEY TURNED IN AT TIME OF PERMITTING, AND THEN IT IS ALSO TURNED IN AND ONLY TURNED IN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SURVEYS BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, AT LEAST, WELL, EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY HAS IT. I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO MIAMI BEACH, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THE INCREMENTAL SURVEYS DONE. YEAH. I GUESS MAYBE ROGELIO, WHAT COULD YOU, WHAT DID YOU SUGGEST? IS THAT HOW WE SHOULD I'M, SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS AND HOW OFTEN THEY'RE TURNING IN THE SURVEYS. I, I'M, I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT. UM, WHAT I CAN SAY IS I'LL, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THEIR SETBACKS THAT ARE APPROVED. UM, IN, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH BUILDING AS WELL AS PLANNING, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE INCREMENTAL SURVEYS UNLESS IT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. UH, WE DO HAVE ONE AT THE BEGINNING, ONE AT THE END TURNED IN WITH THE ASPHALTS. UH, UNFORTUNATELY, PLANNING DOESN'T GO OUT THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. IT GOES OUT BECAUSE OF LACK OF MANPOWER OR WHAT HAVE YOU. GOES OUT AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END, UM, TO DO THEIR INSPECTION. AND I EVEN DISCUSSED, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT CREATES A PROBLEM BECAUSE AFTER THE BUILDING IS BUILT, LET'S SAY THERE IS AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE SIDE, SETBACKS, LET'S SAY THERE IS A SHIFTING OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST, AFTER IT'S BUILT, IT'S BUILT. AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAS HAPPENED IN A FEW HOMES, UM, WITHOUT SAYING THEIR LOCATIONS, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR INSPECTION, SO CAN WE ASK FOR A, JUST A, A SURVEY RIGHT NOW THEN IN THE PROCESS? BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT PLANNING, LIKE IF WE WANT PLANNING TO GO OUT THERE, FINE, BUT THEY WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE SURVEY WITH THEM. I THINK IT'S PLANNING THAT HAS TO GO OUT THERE MAYBE WITH BUILDING, BUT I THINK THE SURVEY, THE, THE STAKES ARE ON SITE AS TO WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE, AND THEY CAN, I BELIEVE IF THEY NEED ANOTHER SURVEY, SO BE IT, THEY CAN REQUEST ANOTHER SURVEY. SO, SO THEY'LL NEED TO GET A REVISION, SO THEIR BUILDING PERMIT, IF THIS IS APPROVED, RIGHT. AND WE CAN PUT A CONDITION THAT IS PART OF THAT APPLICATION, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT, UM, AN AS-BUILT SURVEY DONE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S OKAY, BE BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THE BUILDING PERMIT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIRED SETBACK. BUT, BUT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY PLANNING AND BUILDING. MM-HMM. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY THESE TWO NEIGHBORS. UM, I KNOW ONE, THE FIRST NEIGHBOR, UH, MR. SACK EXPRESSED THAT, UH, THEY WERE GOING UP TO, UH, THAT YOU WERE CURRENTLY AT A HIGHER ELEVATION THAN, THAN IS BEING PRESENTED. SO THERE, THERE MAY BE ALSO SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS AS TO WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING. I'M NOT SURE. BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, HE BELIEVES THAT THE, THAT THE PROPERTY IS BEING BUILT HIGHER THAN APPROVED. MM-HMM. . I'LL ALSO SAY TOO, IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT, THEY SAID A VARIANCE SUCCEED BY ONE FOOT, BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALMOST TWO FEET THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR NOT ONE FOOT. I'M, I'M, I'M VERY INCLINED TO BE CONCERNED BY THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE NEIGHBORS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, THESE ARE, THESE ARE NARROW PROPERTIES. THE HOMES ARE VERY CLOSE, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT ONE AND A HALF MORE FEET WILL HAVE AN EFFECT BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES ARE SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE EXISTING. NOW, UM, I'M ALSO GONNA POINT OUT TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THESE PROJECTS ALL DAY LONG AND PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY CALL IN. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO PEOPLE, THESE TWO NEIGHBORS TOOK THE TIME TO CALL IN AND EXPRESS THEIR DEEP CONCERNS. AND I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY APPROVED WITH AN EXISTING HEIGHT. I DON'T SEE A PARTICULAR REASON FOR THEM TO INCREASE IT LIKE THAT THEY HAVE, ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WANT IT, IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE PUBLIC GOOD. THEY ALREADY GOT A VARIANCE TO GO HIGHER. UM, AND JUST BECAUSE IT TOOK THEM A LONG TIME TO BUILD THIS, [02:05:01] I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A, A PARTICULAR REASON BECAUSE THERE IS NEIGHBOR CONCERN TO GRANT THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN A VARIANCE FOR AN ADDITIONAL FOOT TO GO FROM 24 TO 25. BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING NOW TO GO TO 26.8, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED IN THAT AREA, IN THAT ZONING AREA TO GO TO 28. SO THEY'RE STILL BELOW WHAT IS ALLOWED. UM, OKAY. CORRECT THAT, YEAH. THE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT, THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE CHANGE WITHIN THAT INTERVENING PERIOD, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CHANGE IN THE CODE. WHICH I'LL ALSO SAY TOO, YOU KNOW, THE CODE IS EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING ANOTHER PROPERTY ON THIS STREET. AND THAT ALSO THEY WANTED MORE HEIGHT. AND THE STAFF COMMENT WAS THAT LOTS OF THAT, THAT THE HOMES IN THIS STRIP ARE ALL VERY LOW AND RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT. AND HERE WE ARE RAISING THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALLOWED, THE DRB IS ALLOWED DISCRETION FOR THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. AND THAT CONTEXT IS SO IMPORTANT. I AM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE HEIGHT VARIANCE. UM, I THINK THE ONE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, YOU KNOW, I I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S CALLING, BUT I FEEL LIKE I WOULD ONLY BE IN FAVOR OF IT IF WE HAD AN AS-BUILT SURVEY DONE AND MADE SURE THAT IT WAS BEING BUILT AS PER APPROVED PLANS. AND IF THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT THE FIRST FLOOR, YOU KNOW, TIE BEAMS AT THE HIGHER HEIGHT, THEN I WOULD BE INCLINED TO NOT APPROVE THE HEIGHT REQUEST. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEY SORT OF HAVE A DISREGARD FOR THE PROCESS. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE AFTER THESE THINGS ARE REVIEWED. WELL, BECAUSE I MEAN, SHAUNA, YEAH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES THE APPLICANT AN INCENTIVE TO ADHERE TO, TO THESE CONCERNS. AND IT, I, I THINK IT SETS IT UP TO YOUR POINT THAT THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THAT AREN'T ACCORDING TO PLAN. THIS CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A SAFEGUARD TO THE PROCESS. WHAT WE CAN DO TO NOT HAVE TO BRING THIS PROJECT BACK IS SAY WE APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT OF 26 FEET, EIGHT INCHES. HOWEVER, THERE FIRST HAS TO BE A, UM, SITE PLAN DONE OR PROVIDED TO THE CITY THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS OCCURRING AT THIS TIME IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH PLANS AND THAT THAT MUST BE REVIEWED FIRST BY BUILDING AND PLANNING IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PROCEED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS BOARD'S, UH, HEIGHT INCREASE. THAT WAY IF, AND IF IT ISN'T, IF THEY'RE NOT BUILDING ACCORDING TO PLANS, THAT HAS TO STOP RIGHT AWAY ANYWAYS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND, AND THAT WOULD ALSO THEN REVERSE OUR APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONAL HEIGHTEN, REALLY. WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO SAFEGUARD THAT THINGS ARE BUILT AS THERE SHOULD BE? I, I THINK WE'RE COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY. IF, IF IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT TO REVIEW THE, THE SURVEY BEFORE, BEFOREHAND AND THEN FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM. UM, OTHERWISE I THINK STAFF IS COMFORTABLE REVIEWING A SURVEY, UH, IN ADVANCE OF APPROVING A BUILDING PERMIT. I MEAN, THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION FOR YEARS. I DON'T THINK IN ADDITIONAL MONTH IS REALLY GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND IT WILL SAFEGUARD, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE HAS BEEN DEEP NEIGHBOR CONCERN AND IF THEY ARE NOT BUILDING IT APPROPRIATELY, YOU KNOW, THIS GIVES PEOPLE AN ADDITIONAL MOTIVATION. UM, AS TO YOUR POINT, IT'S HARDER TO GO CHANGE THINGS ONCE THEY'RE BUILT DONE. YEAH. I THINK THAT WE'RE CATCHING IT AT AN IDEAL TIME AND I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS CALLING IN. SO I'M OKAY WITH STAFF REVIEWING, UM, IF IT'S ROHELIO, YOU KNOW, IN CONJUNCTION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE THE AS-BUILT SURVEY, IT'S GONNA BE VERY EASY TO SEE IF THE DIMENSIONS MATCH. I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA ADD THAT MUCH TIME. RIGHT. AND I THINK I WOULD REQUEST THAT PHOTOS BE SUBMITTED OF THE CURRENT STAGE OF THE PROCESS. OKAY. SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I CAN TRY TO REPEAT THE MOTION. SO, UH, I HAVE MOTION. EXCUSE ME. LET ME JUST ADD ONE THING. I THINK THAT, UM, WHAT YOU'RE ALL SAYING IS FINE, BUT IT WILL STOP CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF POSSIBLY NOT BUILDING TO WHAT THEY TOLD US THEY WERE GONNA BUILD TO. THAT'S AN OUR FAULT ALLEGATION. THAT'S AN ALLEGATION. AND I I IT MAY BE A TRUE ALLEGATION AND IT MAY NOT BE. BUT UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE CAN APPROVE THE HEIGHT INCREASE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE THE FIRST REVIEW BY THE CITY BUILDING AND PLANNING TO ASSURE WHAT THE PROPER DOCUMENT, NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY REQUIRE TO ASSURE THAT NONE OF THESE ITEMS BROUGHT BY THE NEIGHBORS ARE [02:10:01] ACCURATE. IF THEY ARE, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION AND THE PROJECT WILL BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY. IT WILL BE RED TAGGED, IT WILL BE STOPPED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SHE'S SAYING LET IT LET IT GO BASED ON HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO IT VERSUS WHAT I'M SAYING NOT AT. WE CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF, AGAIN, LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO COME IN, ADDITIONAL LAYER OF CHECKS AND BALANCES AND ADDITIONAL ASSURANCE THAT THIS IS GONNA GET DONE APPROPRIATELY AND THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO DO IT QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'RE HOLDING UP THE REST OF PROCESS. RIGHT. LEMME MAKE A AND SAY LET IT GO. CAPTURE IT. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT DEPENDENT ON, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED AS BUILT SURVEY AS OF TODAY AND PICTURES OF THE, UH, EXISTING CONSTRUCTION PROCESS BY STAFF. I SECOND. OKAY. AND THEN MY QUESTION, IF IT'S NOT BUILT ACCORDING TO, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S NOT BUILT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL RED TAG THE BUILDING AND IT WILL STOP. 'CAUSE IT'S AT THAT STAGE IT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED AND IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD. WELL, I WOULD SAY IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO THE DRB, IF IT'S NOT BEING BUILT PER WHAT'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THEN WE DENY THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. YEAH. YES. RIGHT. BUT IF WE DON'T, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS IF WE DO A CONTINUANCE. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING THIS ON. THAT'S WHY I WANT A CONTINUANCE. OH, DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE BEFORE THE IT'S NOT PART, IT CAN'T BE PART OF THE CONDITION. IF THEY DON'T MEET IT, THEN IT'S DENIED OR YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT IF THEY DON'T MEET IT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES NECESSARY TO MEET IT AND OH. BUT I DON'T, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY COME BACK TO THE BOARD. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A PENALTY IF THEY'VE DONE IT WRONG. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IF YOU STRUCTURE IT THAT WAY, THERE'S, YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION? DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE OR APPROVE ? I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE IS FEELING, BUT I GUESS LET'S CONTINUE. DO YOU, DO THEY BRING IT, BRING IT, SUBMIT TO STAFF THE CURRENT AS BUILT AND THE CURRENT PICTURES OF CONSTRUCTION? IF EVERYTHING COMPLIES, THEY COME BACK TO US AND WE APPROVE THE HEIGHT INCREASE. UH, IS THERE A, IS THERE A SECOND THAT ANYONE, I'M SORRY, CAN I SECOND IT? I THINK YOU, UH, THE CHAIR CAN SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. I SECOND. YES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD COME BACK. IF THEY ARE IN, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR PLANS. IF THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR PLANS AND THEY CAN PROCEED TO GO FORWARD, IF YOU ALL AS A BOARD AGREE TO THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, OTHERWISE IN ORDER TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD, WHAT IS THE LEAD TIME NOW GOING TO BE? THREE, FOUR MONTHS? WE, WE, IF THEY NEED TO DO ANOTHER, ANOTHER APPLICATION, IT WOULD BE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO BRING BACK. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD HALT CONSTRUCTION. I'M SAYING THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM HERE AND THERE, THERE THERE MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, IT'S GONNA STOP REGARDLESS OF US AS A BOARD. IF THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM AND WE APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THEN THEY CAN GO FORWARD. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US. I THINK A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. AND SO THAT WOULD BE CONTINUE TO THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING, UH, WITH DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT TO PR TO PROVIDE AN ASBUILT SURVEY DONE TODAY OR SUBSEQUENT TO TODAY, UM, TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH APPROVED SETBACKS AND PLANS PRIOR TO THE APP APPRO, UM, AND AS WELL AS PICTURES OF THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION. CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE, OH WAIT, WE STILL HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. OKAY. MM-HMM, , YEAH. YEAH. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, BY, BY MS. MEYER AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY CHAIR NELSON. I, SO IF, IF WE'RE READY TO VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. A OPPOSED? AYE. OPPOSED? SO FIVE TO ONE, THE MOTION PASSES CAN, SORRY. UH, I, SO THIS MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN FOR THE DRB AND NO, NO, NO. CONTINUE THAT. SO, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE DECEMBER 10TH AGENDA, UM, TYPICALLY TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT MEETING. I NEED, I WILL NEED, UH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET IT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND ANALYZE IT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BOARD. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, BY NO NOVEMBER 28TH, I WOULD NEED, UH, A SURVEY AND PHOTO, A SURVEY AN AS-BUILT SURVEY SHOWING THAT YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETBACKS AND THE PLANS, UM, AS WELL AS PHOTOS OF THE, OF THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND THE, THE CONCERN IS WITH THE SETBACKS ENCROACHMENTS ON THE SITE THAT THAT'S A CONCERN AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO SHOW IN THIS, IN THE SURVEY, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, AND AND ALSO THE ROTATION IS THE OTHER CONCERN THAT THAT S ZACH THE NEIGHBOR MM-HMM. EXPRESSED THE ROTATION, BOTH OF THEM ACTUALLY S ZACH AND MATT, THE ROTATION AS TO THE NORTHEAST OR THE NORTHWEST [02:15:01] AND ALSO THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE BALCONY. I THINK THE CONCERN IS WE JUST, WE WANT AN AS-BUILT SURVEY OF WHAT'S BUILT ON THE SITE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE APPROVED PLANS, PERMITTED PLANS. OKAY. AND SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO IF WE HAVE THAT AND IT SHOWS THAT IT'S ACCORDING TO PLANS, THEN THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT WOULD, WOULD BE GRANTED THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, NO, IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED TO NET AND WE'LL DECIDE THAT. OKAY. AT THE NEXT, NO, BECAUSE I, SO ONCE WE GET AN APPROVAL, WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THE ENGINEERING PLANS, EVERYTHING DONE TO THEN BE SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT. SO THIS IS GONNA ADD A LOT OF TIME AND COST FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND AGAIN, THIS COMES, WELL AGAIN, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S CHANGING THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA ADD TIME AND COST IS YOU'RE CHANGING THE DESIGN, RIGHT? YEAH. WE'RE JUST ASK, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO IT. SO WHAT'S REALLY HOLDING UP THE PROCESS IS DOUBLE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING BUILT AS APPROVED AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST GONNA BE A FEW WEEKS DELAY. OKAY. UM, I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I DUNNO IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, THE, UM, THAT THE NEIGHBORS THAT CALLED IN TO MAYBE EMAIL YOU THEIR CONCERNS. MM-HMM. . SO YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY. AND CAN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT APPROPRIATELY. SURE. SO, 'CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, DAX AND MATT, YOU TALKED, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO CONVEY THEIR CONCERNS VIA EMAIL. YEAH, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO RECEIVE THAT. AND ALSO WE CAN GET THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON BOARD BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GONNA BE PART OF THE WHOLE CONVERSATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND HOW IT'S BEEN BUILT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SURE THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY FORWARD TOGETHER. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, DID, ARE THE, THE DUN BORA? YES, THEY'RE HERE. OKAY, NICE. SO WE'RE GONNA GO [5. DRB23-0960, 704 84TH STREET - Denbora Bay II] BACK. NOW THAT AN APPLICANT HAS ARRIVED, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO, UM, HERE DRB 23 0 9 6 0 7 0 4 80 FOURTH STREET. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SITE. OKAY. SO LAST MONTH, UH, SORRY, THE MONTH PRIOR IN SEPTEMBER, UH, THIRD, THE DRB UH, REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION, UM, AND CONTINUED THE ITEM. UM, THE DRB HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT. SO THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED, UH, THE DESIGN OF THE FACADE, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, MEET THE DB'S DIRECTION. UM, SO THESE CHANGES INCLUDE A, UH, LIGHTER EXTERIOR COLORS, WHICH ARE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE HEIGHT OF THE SCREENING PANEL THAT SURROUNDED THE FRONT STAIRCASE HAS BEEN REDUCED. UH, DECORATIVE EXTERIOR SCREENING NOW TERMINATES AT THE TOP OF THE CANOPY STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF CONTINUING ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. UM, AND THEN AN EXPANDED ALUMINUM SCREENING, UM, WAS REP, UH, REPLACED, WAS REPLACED WITH A PERFORATED, UH, WOOD FINISH METAL PANEL, UM, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE GROUND FLOOR SCREENING. UM, SO STAFF BELIEVES THAT THESE MODIFICATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD. UH, IT CREATES A DESIGN THAT'S MUCH MORE, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSAL BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. HI, HOW ARE YOU? UH, WELL, JANINA HERE FROM RED PO AND JULIANA, WE'RE A PART OF THE DESIGN TEAM. UM, WELL, WE, LIKE, LIKE LIO MENTIONED, WE ADDRESS THE CHANGES ON THE DESIGN, LIKE THE LAYOUT IS ALL THE SAME, UM, AS WAS REVIEWED BEFORE. UH, WHAT THE IDEA IS TO CHANGE THE HEAVY AND DARK COLORS THAT WE HAD BEFORE FOR MORE LIGHT, UM, LIKE SAND, IDEA COLOR, WE HAVE SOME, UH, SUN COLOR BRICKS IN THE, IN THE FRONT WALL. AND THE IDEA IS TO USE THIS, UM, UH, MATERIAL THAT IT'S LIKE AN ALUMINUM, LIKE FOR THE MESH THAT YOU SEE THERE. IT WILL BE MADE OF ALUMINUM BY COVER WITH A, UH, WITH FINISH, UM, AS THE FRAME AROUND THE SCREEN OR WHERE DOES THAT GO? AND THERE IS A FRAME AROUND THE, THE, THE SCREEN MAKING LIKE A, LIKE A NEAT FINISH FOR THAT, UH, SHAPE FOR THAT RECTANGLE. DO YOU WANNA BRING UP THE PRESENTATION? OH, I THINK IT WAS, YEAH. RIGHT. SO IT'S THAT, THAT'S THE MAIN, THE GRILL. MM-HMM. . UM, THE IDEA OF THE FRAME IS TO HIGHLIGHT THE ENTRANCE AND TO BE CONTINUE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, ROOF IN THE ENTRANCE AND IN THE, IN THE WALLS OF THE BALCONIES, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LIGHT COLOR BRICKS, LIKE A SAND COLOR BEIGE. UM, SO THE, THE DARKEST, THE DARKEST COLOR IS JUST A BROWN, IT'S NOT BLACK [02:20:01] ANYMORE. AND IT'S ONLY FOR DETAILS LIKE FRAMING AND THE COLUMNS IN THE, IN THE GROUND FLOOR. THE, THE REST THE, LIKE, THE SQUARE WILL BE LIKE A WHITE STICK. YEAH. WELL, JUST TO REMINDER, LIKE THE, THE MESH, THE RECTANGLE OF THE MESH IS TO COVER THE STAIRS THAT NEEDS TO BE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY FOR, FOR THE, UH, USERS TO HAVE THE STAIRS AS SOON AS THEY ENTER THE BUILDING. THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT. AND, UH, WE FILTER THAT, THAT STAIRS WITH THAT MESH NOT BEING SUCH A HIGH, LIKE A HEAVY ELEMENT. WHAT MATERIAL IS THE MESH? IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS, IT'S LIKE, LIKE AN ALUMINUM, UH, MESH, BUT COVER LIKE IN, IN A LIGHT WOOD FINISH. OH, OKAY. SO, SO THOSE LOOK LIKE THAT? YES. WHO'S THE MANUFACTURER OF THAT? DO YOU KNOW? WHO'S THE MANUFACTURER? UH, I DON'T REMEMBER RIGHT NOW. YEAH, WE ARE WORKING. JUST A QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT IS PAINTED OR PRINTED ON THERE? IT IS PRINTED ON PRINTED, YEAH. IT'S, IT'S MADE FOR EXTERIOR. YEAH, ACTUALLY, UM, SORRY. UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH A SCHOOL FIRM THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A REALLY MAJOR COMPANY, UH, FOR FINISHING FOR THIS KIND OF PROJECT. SO WE ARE WORKING TO TOGETHER TO FIND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE PROJECT TO FIND, TO GET AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. THIS BUILT? YES. UH, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MATERIAL, SORRY THAT WE ARE INTERRUPTING YOU, BUT YOU'RE REFERENCING SORT OF THE SCREEN AS A MESH WHERE YOUR IN DRAINS. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A MASONRY BLOCK SCREEN, BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT IS THE, THE MESH YOU'RE PROPOSING? SORRY, I I THE MESH YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE MESH. THAT'S THE MESH IS THE ONE, THE FRAME AROUND? NO, NO. ISN'T THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. . OH, YOU MEAN YOU'RE MAKING A GRID. IT'S LIKE A GRID MADE UP OF THAT MATERIAL. YEAH, IT'S PED ELEMENT. HOW IS IT JOINED? IT'S, IT'S, UH, ONE, UH, IT'S LAYERED. ONE IS IN FRONT OF THE OTHER? YES. OKAY. THE, THE IDEA OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS MESS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS TO COVER THE STAIRS. YEAH, YEAH. NO, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE MES. I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS MASONRY MATERIAL AND IT'S GOING TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIG WAVE JUST TO GO IN THE WING AND TO HAVE THE OPEN SPACE, THE SHADE THAT IS GONNA HAVE AT THE EFFECT OF THE SUN TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, SOMETHING DIFFERENT GOING TO, UH, COVER THE STAIRS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE, OF THE FACADE. AND THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, WE THINK THAT'S GONNA ADD SOME VALUE TO THE NEIGHBOR AND IT'S GONNA YEAH. COVER THAT FUNCTIONAL STAIRS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FRONT. ARE THE DARK TRIM ELEMENTS THE SAME AS THAT? JUST A DARKER FINISH? YEAH, IT'S A DARKER FINISH. OKAY. YEAH. STILL ALUMINUM. IS THERE MORE TO YOUR PRESENTATION OR DO YOU WANT US TO START ASKING QUESTIONS? YEAH, WE HAVE, UM, WELL, WE HAVE A FEW MORE VIEWS IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA SHOW THE SCREEN. UM, WELL BASICALLY LIKE TO NOT MAKE IT LIKE A, LIKE A HEAVY VOLUME AGAIN. IT, IT IS, UH, SEPARATED AND CREATING CONTINUITY IN, IN THE STAIRCASE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO MAKE IT LIGHTER. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THERE IN THE ISOMETRIC THAT, THAT IT'S NOT COVERING THE ENTIRE STAIRS AND THE INSIDE OF THE BALCONY, UH, WALLS, THE INSIDE BALCONY WALLS OF, UH, BASE COLOR. A LITTLE BIT BASE, YES. OKAY. THE SAME THING WITH THE WALL THAT I SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE BUILDING. MM-HMM, THAT'S JUST PAINT, DIFFERENT COLOR OF PAINT? OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT TEXTURE? THE, THE WHITE FRAME OF THE BALCONY IS, UH, WHITE OUTSIDE AND A LIGHT BEIGE IN INSIDE. RIGHT. AND ON THE SIDE. AND THEN, AND THEN THE, THE WALL OF THE APARTMENT, THE APARTMENT WILL BE LIKE IN A BE BRICK. AND THEN ON THIS SIDE, UH, WE ARE, UH, DOING LIKE THE, THE SAME BE COLOR, WHICH IS A PAINT. IT'S NOT ANY KIND OF TEXTURE OR MATERIAL. MM-HMM, . YEAH. ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE BUILDING. ALL THE WAY IN THE SIDE TOWARDS THE BOX. IN THE SIDE. IN THE SIDE SIDE. MM-HMM. UHHUH. AND IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BACK, UH, THAT IT'S THE SMALL IMAGE THERE. MM-HMM. , UH, WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING THE SAME AS THE WHITE FRAME, UH, WITH THE BEIGE COLOR, UH, IN, IN THE INNER SIDES OF THE, OF THE SQUARE. AND, UH, LIKE THE WALLS FOR THE APARTMENTS WITH THE, WITH THE BRICKS? YEAH. MM-HMM, . SO ONLY ON THE SIDES, UH, LIKE THE, THE SIDE FACADES WILL BE THE, [02:25:01] UM, THE BEACH TO OFF. MM-HMM. LIKE MATCH MATCHING THE ONE INSIDE THE FRAME BALCONY. MM-HMM. , CAN YOU SHOW THE SIDE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? WELL, THERE'S THE, THE, THE COLORS. UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ACTUALLY THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE. YEAH, THE ASYMMETRIC WILL BE THE, THE ONE SHOWING MORE OF THE SIDE. YEAH, THE ORIGINAL ONE. SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE BOX, IT'S GONNA BE WHITE WITH THIS INTERIOR COLOR THAT IS GONNA PUMP THE ELEVATION. AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE IN THIS BRICK AS TO CALLED BASE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE, ADD SOME TEXTURE, UH, TO THE BUILDING. AND, AND THEN IN THE BACK WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE SAME CONDITION THAT WE HAD IN THE FRONT. THAT IS THE BOX IN THIS WHITE AS TO CALL. SO THAT BRICK THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WAS IN A PREVIOUS PICTURE? MM-HMM, , WHERE IS THAT PLACED? IS THAT ON LIKE IN THE, IN THE FRONT AND IN THE BACK? UH, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHEN WE HAVE THE RAILING, THAT WALL IS GONNA BE WITH THAT PICTURE. MM-HMM. , CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 60 NOW, BUT 61 IS SORT OF PART OF IT, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO PROJECTS BEFORE, AND I'M WONDERING IF IT'S YOUR, AS A, YOUR ARCHITECTURAL INTENT TO HAVE A SHARED DESIGN LANGUAGE BETWEEN THEM OR NOT? NO. OR YOU PREFER NOT TO? NO, ACTUALLY THE, THE OTHER ONE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I'M, I WAS GONNA MAKE A COMMENT BASED ON YOUR RESPONSE. UH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS MORE SIMILAR MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE FIRST PRESENTATION, WE CHANGED IT FOR MORE. UH, LIKE THEY WERE ASKING FOR MIAMI COLORS. MM-HMM. AND TRYING TO, TO, UH, DO A MODERNIZED VERSION OF WHAT THEY HAVE AROUND, UM, THAT'S WHY IT CHANGED THAT, THAT, UH, DRASTICALLY. WELL, I, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE, UM, WAIT A MINUTE. LET ME SEE. SO IS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO, NO. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANYBODY LINE HANDS PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NOPE. OKAY, GREAT. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTIONMENT. SORRY, SHAUNA. SORRY, I WAS JUMPING AHEAD. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS', UM, CONTINUED EFFORT TO RESPOND TO MIAMI CONTEXT, NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, UM, AND STILL TRY TO BRING SOME, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALITY TO THE BUILDING'S DESIGN. UM, I'M SURPRISED BY THE PROPOSED MATERIAL FOR THE SCREEN, BUT IN TERMS OF AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, I, I AM ALL SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. AND, UM, I I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS, I WISH YOU LUCK IN DETAILING THE SCREEN. UM, UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I, I SUPPORT THIS. I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU SORT OF MAKE THE BUILDING POROUS ALONG THE EAST SIDE, UM, AND, AND ARTICULATED. I DO WISH THE WEST SIDE WAS ARTICULATED A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANS AND TRYING TO FIT, YOU KNOW, UNITS IN HERE THAT WE, WE CAN'T GET EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT. THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA SAY TOO, THIS IS SUCH A, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN AND GOOD JOB. UM, THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND ALSO, OF COURSE FOR THE OTHER ONE, UM, MY, IT'S FUNNY, I THINK WE ALL HAD A DIFFERENT RESPONSE OR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THIS SCREENING IS. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IDEA. MY, I INITIALLY READ IT AS, UM, LIKE GOLD ALUMINUM ACTUALLY AS CIRCLES THAT WAS PUNCHED OUT, WHICH REALLY WOULD GIVE THE BUILDING A VERY SORT OF MIM O FLAVOR. UM, AND I, I THINK IT READS IN THESE MATERIALS ALMOST LIKE A CANING, UM, EFFECT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE, I ALMOST LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING MORE, YOU KNOW, BRONZE OR GOLD MORE IN TERMS OF A TONE AS OPPOSED TO A WOOD TONE AND WOULD WANT TO, I JUST THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE A REALLY INTERESTING CONTRAST TO HAVE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF, I DON'T KNOW, METALLIC SHINY FEEL. UM, IF YOU CAN CHOOSE WHATEVER FINISH IS POSSIBLE, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY ELSE THINKS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT'S INITIALLY WHAT I READ IT AS. NOT FROM THAT MANUFACTURER, BUT WE, WE CAN CHECK. THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH THE METALLIC IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE RAIN. YOU KNOW, IF IT END UP LIKE ALL LIKE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE DROP STAINS AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW NO, I MEAN LIKE A BRONZE, NOT A BRONZE, LIKE A, AN ALUMINUM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BRASS, AN ALUMINUM BRASS. OH, OKAY. THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I ALSO THOUGHT THAT IT, THE HOLES, THAT THE HOLES WERE SORT OF PUNCHED OUT AS OPPOSED TO THIS GRID THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, LIKE A LASER CUT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I, SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. UM, [02:30:01] MY, I AM A LITTLE BIT, I, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW I FEEL THOUGH ABOUT THIS, THIS BRICK TEXTURE EFFECT. UM, WHAT I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR AS IS MORE, UM, LIKE CONCRETE BLOCK. SO IT HAS THIS INSTITUTIONAL FEEL. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY LIKE THE, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A TEXTURE, ESPECIALLY THERE'S SO MUCH OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BRICK PATTERN WOULD BE THE, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL BRICK, NOT THE, NOT THE CMU BRICK. MM-HMM. IT WOULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE, I'M LOOKING AT ON THE MATERIALS BOARD WHERE IT SAYS BEIGE STUCCO, BRICK TEXTURE. I'M ASSUMING IT'S BEIGE STUCCO, AND THEN YOU JUST SORT OF IMPRINT THE PATTERN. OH, NO. YEAH, YEAH. . SO I'M JUST SAYING, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE TEXTURE OR AGAIN, I DON'T WANT IT TO MAKE FEEL MORE INSTITUTIONAL. THAT WAS ALSO MY, MY ONE CONCERN WITH IT AS WELL. I MEAN, I'M, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I THINK THAT THIS IS VERY REFRESHING AND GREAT OVERALL DESIGN. THAT WAS JUST THE ONE CONFUSING PIECE TO ME WAS THE STUCCO WITH BRICK TEXTURE. IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO GO WITH THE REST OF THE DESIGN, WHICH IS VERY SOPHISTICATED. I DON'T KNOW. ONE SECOND. OKAY. NO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE STUCCO TEXTURE. IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE, THE FINISH BREAKS. YOU KNOW WHAT, CAN YOU BRING UP THE PICTURE? IT'S PAGE NINE OF THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S THE MATERIALS BOARD? YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT THE LEGEND IS WRONG. IT'S NOT THE, IT'S LIKE THE FINISH. YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE, THE REGULAR OLD BRICKS, THE SMALL ONES THAT, UH, IT'S A THIN, A THIN VENEER BRICK. LIKE A TILE APPLICATION OVER YEAH, IT'S LIKE A TILE. YEAH. SO IT'LL BE ACTUAL TILE? YES. OH, LIKE A THIN, THIN BRICK. A VENEER, A BRICK, BRICK VENEER, I THINK. EXACTLY. IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE STUCCO PRESSED END. NO. NO. AND IS THAT LIKE A NATURAL STONE OR LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S WHY WE ARE LIKE APPLYING IT, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONT AND IN THE BACK BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUSLY EXPENSIVE FOR ALL THE SIDE SETBACKS. UM, SO CAN YOU SHOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE VERSUS JUST PAINTED? SO IN BETWEEN THE WINDOWS IN THE FRONT AND IN THE REAR FACADE, LIKE THE, THE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ALL THE CAN, CAN YOU GO TO PAGE SEVEN? IT HAS I THINK, BETTER RENDERINGS THAT YOU CAN. YEAH. OR, OKAY. YEAH. SO BASICALLY ALL THESE WALLS IN THE FRONT ARE GONNA HAVE THAT BRICK, LIKE IN, IN WHAT IS LIKE REMIND REMINDING AFTER LIKE THE, THE WINDOWS, RIGHT? OR THE SLIDING DOORS. AND IN THE, IN THE BACK WILL BE THE SAME. IT WILL BE HERE. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE LIKE A SMALL BEIGE IN THE INTERIOR OF THIS LARGE FRAME HERE. THAT WOULD BE LIKE A LIGHT BEIGE COLOR. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE TEXTURE WITH THE SIMILAR COLOR FOR THE BRICKS HERE, THE BRICKS VENEER. AND ON THE SIDES OF, AND ON THE SIDES WE DON'T HAVE, UH, LIKE VERY MUCH DETAIL ON THOSE. NO. ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YEAH. YOU HAD A PICTURE OF BEFORE. I DON'T, THE S THERE, LET ME SEE IF I HAVE, UH, ELEVATIONS. HERE'S DRAWING. YOU WERE ON IT BEFORE THAT. GO TO PAGE SEVEN THERE. SO, UM, YEAH, SO LIKE IN THE SITE IT'S GONNA BE STUCO. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE BRICKS, BUT PAINTED BEIGE, BUT PAINTED BEIGE OKAY. TO KEEP IT WITH THE, WITH THE SAME LANGUAGE. BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT FINISH FOR LIKE, THE ENTIRE SET OF THE BUILDING, IT'S UH, LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. OKAY. BASICALLY, MAYBE ALSO, I GUESS IN THE SAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE WITH THE BRICK, I GUESS. 'CAUSE THERE WAS THE SEAMS. I, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE MATERIALS? YEAH, YEAH. IT'S JUST SORT OF REVIEW, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE SAME CONCERN, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT NO, IT'S GONNA BE DEBBIE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE VENEER, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE STUCCO PRINTED WITH THE TEXTURE. IT'S GONNA BE THE REAL ONE. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE VENEER? IS THAT LIKE A NATURAL STONE OR IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MADE OF BRICK. BRICK. OH, AND BRICK. OKAY. AND IT'S IN THE COLOR TONE OF MM-HMM. . OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE, THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF, OF THE FOUR STORY IS 40 FEET, AND THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 50, BUT YOUR HIGHEST PROJECTION IS 55. IS THAT UP ON THE ROOF WHERE THE EQUIPMENT IS? YES. CAN YOU SHOW THAT? UH, SO THAT'S THAT WHITE, THE, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, IT'S MEASURED TO THE, TO THE SLAB. SO LIKE IT WOULD BE, UH, THIS, THIS LINE THAT'S THIS LINE HERE. MM-HMM. WHAT IS ABOVE THAT IS THE, THE MACHINERY OF THE MACHINER. [02:35:01] OKAY. AN ELEVATOR. YES. SHAFT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE SEVEN UNITS, BUT FIVE PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED. THERE WAS NO ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE A PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY UNIT. IT, IT WAS REVIEWED BY TRAFFIC AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. OKAY. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION TOO. ALSO, LISTEN TO THE MATERIALS BOARD IS A WHITE VINYL FENCE, WHERE IS THAT? WELL, IT WOULD BE THE VINYL FENCE. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GONNA BE WHITE. UM, WHERE IS THAT? ALONG? WHITE. OKAY. WHEN WE PROPOSE TO WHITE. BUT IT CAN BE CHANGED. IT'S LIKE THE IDEA TO HAVE THE, THE VINYL THAT'S THE, THE BORDER, YES. AROUND IT. YES. BUT IF YOU WANT ANOTHER COLOR OR OPEN, NO, IT WAS MORE ON THE MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, VINYLS A LITTLE CHEAP. YEAH. BECAUSE WITH WITHIN THE OPTIONS ARE BLACK OR WHITE. SO BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS MORE LIKE A BROWN, YOU KNOW, LIKE HAVE THIS DIFFERENT TONE, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THIS SYMBOLS AND WE THINK WITH THE LANDSCAPE IT'S GONNA MATCH BETTER THAN THE OTHER. SO DO YOU RATHER HAVE AN ALUMINUM ONE? THE IDEA IS TO COVER COMPLETELY, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORS. SURE. I MEAN, IS IT GONNA BE COVERED BY LANDSCAPING? ULTIMATELY? IT ALSO HAS, SO IT DOESN'T, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE HIGHER THOUGH. IT'S HOW TALL IS THE FENCE? SIX, I THINK. YEAH, SIX FEET IS IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED? UH, YEAH, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. WHAT THE CODE IS ASKING DEPENDS ON THE, ON THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE LANSKY DESIGN ALSO IN THIS SIDE OF THE SETBACK. SO THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE LANDSCAPING ON THE SETBACK? WHERE THAT FENCE IS? UM, EVENTUALLY, WHAT IS IT PROPOSED TO GROWTH, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE HEIGHT. SORRY? IT IS NOT GONNA BE THE HEIGHT ALWAYS LOWER THAN THE FENCE. YEAH, FOR SURE. WHAT I MEAN IS THE COLORS, WHEN YOU ARE SEEING, UH, THE, THE TOTAL PICTURE, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE THE GREEN AND THE WHITE. THERE IS GONNA BE THE FENCE, AND THEN YOU ARE GONNA HAVE THE BUILDING. SO WE JUST WANT, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE, UM, A LANGUAGE BETWEEN ALL THE ELEMENTS. SO THE CURRENT PROPOSED MATERIAL FOR THE FENCES IS WHITE VINYL, VINYL, VINYL. OKAY. YEAH. AND I'M SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, JUST BACK TO SHAUNA'S POINT ABOUT CONSISTENCY. AND I REALIZE THAT THAT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FAR APART GEOGRAPHICALLY, SO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT. UM, BUT ONE, JUST ONE THING I NOTICED THAT THERE'S SIGNAGE FOR THAT SAYS DIOR THREE ON THE SUBSEQUENT PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE, BUT THERE'S NO SIGNAGE AT ALL ON THIS KIND OF IDENTIFYING THAT. WAS THAT JUST A CHOICE BY THE DEVELOPER OR? NO, WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THE, THE SIGNAGE ACTUALLY, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THERE. THE TREE THAT WE ADD THE SIGN TOP OF THE ONION. AND FOR THIS ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE, THE MESH, UH, THIS PERFOR, WE DON'T WANT TO ADD MORE ELEMENTS. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAN, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SOMEONE WANNA, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, I MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND. OKAY. OH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THOUGH ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE MESH OR THE MATERIAL. SHOULD WE MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT THE MATERIAL IS AS PRESENTED OR WHAT IS GONNA BE USED OR EXPLORE THE PALETTE? RIGHT. I CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT THE, THE BRICK BE, YOU KNOW, THE BRICK VENEER BRICK MATERIAL, NOT A STAMPED STUCCO. UM, THAT THE, THE FENCE BE EXPLORED. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE SCREEN WE LOOK, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SCREENING ELEMENT HAS THE PRIME FEATURE ON THE FRONT FACADE. YOU SHOULD EXPLORE THE FINISH FOR THAT. MM-HMM. AND THE SCREENING TOO. IT, IT GOES IN ALL NOT JUST THE FRONT FACADE, RIGHT? SORRY? I MEAN THOSE BIG ELEMENTS IN EVERY WORD THAT IT IS, YES, IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT, BUT MAYBE IT, IT HAS A, A DIFFERENT FINISH IN EXPLORING SORT OF THE ACTUAL ARTICULATION OF, OF THE PHYSICAL SCREEN. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT THE BRICK TEXTURE ON THE FRONT SINCE THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IN THE PRESENTATION OR, 'CAUSE IT SAYS STUCCO RIGHT NOW. OH YES. YEAH, I SAID THAT IT SHOULD BE, YES. SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BRICK NOT STUCCO. OKAY. YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO START OVER? , CAN I JUST SO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STUCCO FINISH ON THE SIDE ELEVATION. WELL I GUESS HONESTLY THAT'S, THERE'S EITHER INCONSISTENCIES IN YOUR GUYS' PRESENTATION. UM, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS NO STAMP BRICK ON THE STUCCO ANYWHERE. AND IN YOUR GUYS' RENDERINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK UP, YOU DEFINITELY SHOW MORE BRICK, LIKE ON THE MAIN MASS OF THE BUILDING, THE SECOND MASS. OH, OKAY. LIKE, UH, SEE THAT MIDDLE MASS THAT'S RENDERED AS BRICK, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT BRICK? YES. ON THE SIDE YOU SAID? YEAH, IT IS. YEAH. THAT WHOLE MASS. YEAH. YOU'VE SHOWN THAT AS BRICK. [02:40:01] AND WHAT IS THE INTENT THERE? UH, WELL THE IDEA IS NOT MAKING IT SO EXPENSIVE, LIKE THAT VEER IS EXPENSIVE. MAYBE WE CAN USE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COLOR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS YOUR IT'S SECOND COLOR ON THE INTERIOR OF THAT. MM-HMM. BUT I THINK WE WOULD RATHER SEE IT JUST THE COLOR, BUT NOT A, I MEAN, THEY COULD EXPLORE, YOU COULD EXPLORE A TEXTURED STUCCO BUT NOT IMITATING BRICK, I DUNNO. IN THE SAME, I THINK IT'S THE COLOR IN THE SAME COLOR SEEMS TO BE WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO. YEAH. SO MAYBE JUST HORIZONTAL SCORELINES, BUT NOT THE, THE VERTICAL SCORELINES THAT WOULD MAKE IT APPEAR LIKE BRICK. I WOULDN'T WANT IT BE THAT LIMITING. I THINK THEY COULD EXPLORE, WELL YES, TEXTURE, BUT MORE OR LESS THAT'S KIND OF YEAH. LIKE JUST A TEXTURED PATTERN, NOT IMITATING BRICK. YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE IT CONSISTENT. MM-HMM. WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE REVIEWING THE PRESENTATION JUST SAYS THAT IT'S, UM, STUCCO. YEAH. BUT THEN ON THE, THE, THE LEGEND IS WRONG. THAT'S THE, THE CONFUSION. BUT THEN ON THE, THE FRONT AND RARE FACADES THERE IS, IT'S A TILE OR A BRICK OR A NON STUCCO MATERIAL. YEAH. AND THAT TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE COLORS AND TONES OF THE MESH SCREENING. AND I WOULD, I MEAN, I'M SORT OF ENVISIONING TOO WITH THE, THE, I, I WISH I COULD REMEMBER WHAT BUILDING IT IS, BUT OFTENTIMES YOU'D SEE IN MIO ARCHITECTURE TO HAVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A BRASS, AN ALUMINUM, BUT AN A BRASS COLOR SCREEN. I'M GONNA SOMETHING ON ALONG THOSE LINES JUST FOR OPTIONS. YEAH. EITHER WAY, JUST LIKE TO, TO MENTION THAT IN, IN THAT PATTERN IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. YEAH. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU SEE LIKE, LIKE A BIG PANEL, SO AT THE DISTANCE IT CREATES THAT KIND OF LIKE A, A FABRIC. YEAH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO DID WE, YOU YOU MADE THE MOTION I THINK. OH YEAH, I MAKE THE MOTION. I THINK ROGELIO'S RECORDING THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT. I THINK I GOT 'EM. YEP. THE EXPLORE REPLACING STUCCO BRICK TEXTURE, FINISH WITH OTHER TEXTURE FINISH SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STAFF, WORK WITH STAFF ON, ON REVISING COLORS OF MESH SCREENING. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TWO, TWO BIG ONES. UNLESS I MISSED ANYTHING. AND THAT I, SORRY, WHERE THE, WHERE THE BRICK ACTUAL, LIKE WHERE IT'S SHOWN AS BRICK, IT'S ACTUAL, THE BRICK MATERIAL, NOT STUCCO. VENEER VENEER OR, OR BRICK VENEER. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT IN THE, BUT THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S, THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY, SO WE'LL LOOK FOR THAT IN THE LEGEND. UM, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS PAGE SEVEN. LEGEND OF MATERIALS SHOWS THE BRICK AND THE LEGEND SHOWS IT TO BE STUCCO INSTEAD OF A BRICK VENEER. BUT, BUT ALSO TO BE CLEAR THAT IN THEIR RENDERINGS THEY'RE SHOWING THE SAME RENDERING REPRESENTATION, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TWO DIFFERENT MATERIAL APPLICATIONS. SO LIKE ON THE FRONT IN BETWEEN THE WINDOWS, THAT'LL ACTUALLY BE A BRICK VENEER PRODUCT. RIGHT. BUT THEN ON THE LARGER MASS, THAT MIDDLE MASS WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING IN A COLOR, THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT COLOR STUCCO WITH A TEXTURE, BUT IT WILL NOT HAVE THE BRICK VENEER. THE BRICK VENEER. YEAH. LAWYER VENEER ACTUAL BRICK. OKAY, I THINK I GOT IT. ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MS SECOND BY MS. VALDI. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AND NOW LET'S HEAR, [6. DRB23-0961, 2125 BAY DRIVE – Denbora Bay III] UH, FOR THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT, THE NEXT ONE, D RRB 23 0 9 6 1 21 25 BAY DRIVE. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A NEW FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE SITE. OKAY. SO THIS IS, UH, DEBORA BAY THREE. YES. UM, AGAIN, SAME, SAME. THIS THIS PROJECT, UH, WAS REVIEWED ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. UM, THE DR SORRY CAME BEFORE THE BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. THE DRB CONTINUED THE ITEM, UM, TO OCTOBER 1ST. UM, AND NOW WE'RE HERE TODAY OCTOBER FOR THE NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING, AND THEY'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE DRB. UM, SO SPECIFICALLY THESE CHANGES ARE THE USE OF LIGHTER AND BRIGHTER COLORS THAT ARE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE CITY. UM, THE WOOD SCREENING IN FRONT OF THE STAIRS ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL AND AND GROUND LEVEL FACADE WERE REPLACED WITH TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCREENING. THE SCREENING IN THE FRONT OF THE STAIRS ABOVE [02:45:01] THE GROUND LEVEL IS PROPOSED TO BE A YELLOW STUCCO WITH A SMOOTH FINISH AND THEN THE GROUND LEVEL WAS REPLACED WITH VERTICAL LOUVERS. UM, HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, WE'LL NOTE THAT THE MATERIAL WAS NOT LISTED IN THE MATERIALS LEGEND. SO WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THEY CLARIFY THAT TODAY. UM, AND THEN A METAL METAL CANOPY STRUCTURE WAS ADDED TO THE GROUND LEVEL. YEAH. UM, AND THEN THE EXPANDED ALUMINUM SCREENING WAS REPLACED WITH A PERFORATED WOOD FINISH METAL PANEL. UM, SO STAFF BELIEVES THAT THESE MODIFICATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AS WELL AS PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AND REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. SO WITH THIS ONE, UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'LL DO, WE HAD A, HI, EXCUSE ME. UM, WE JUST REALIZED THAT WE DID NOT SWEAR YOU IN SINCE YOU CAME IN LATER. SO I'LL JUST DO IT REALLY QUICKLY. UM, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU GAVE AND YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. UM, WELL, UM, AT THE, AT THE END, END OF THE FIRST PRESENTATION, WE HAVE, UH, A CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS. UM, BASICALLY THEY, UH, REQUESTED TO RESPECT MORE LIKE THE IDENTITY OF THE, OF THE, THOSE, UH, BLOCKS SURROUNDING THE PROJECT. UM, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO, TO ADDRESS HERE IS, UH, AGAIN WITH THE LIGHTER COLOR, NO INDUSTRIAL LOOK AT ALL. AND, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE ADDITION OF SOME TEXTURE AND SOME, UH, COLORS, TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE SIMPLE IN SHAPES, UH, BUT RESPECTING THE, THE, THE, UH, PAST, PAST POSSIBLE, PAST TWO COLORS OF MIAMI. UM, AND WELL, UH, WITH NO, UH, SO MANY SHAPES NOT, NOT SO LOADED IN THE FACADE, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE PLAYED WITH. AND WHILE IN THE, IN THE GROUND FLOOR TRYING TO COVER THE ENTRANCE AND THE GARAGE, UH, PLAYING WITH THOSE VERTICAL, UH, STRIPES WHERE THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE IS MORE, UH, UH, PERMEABLE. UH, AND WE THINK IT LOOKS PRETTY . YEAH. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? UH, WELL, YES. BASICALLY THE LAYOUT IS SIMILAR TO THE, TO THE OTHER PROJECT AND IT, THAT DIDN'T CHANGE FROM, FROM THE, UH, FIRST PRESENTATION. SO, UH, ALL WE ARE ADDRESSING RIGHT HERE IS LIKE THE AESTHETIC OF THE FSAC. GREAT. YEAH. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, LIKE WE WERE LOOKING JUST FIND, YOU KNOW, TO PLAY WITH THE ELEMENTS TO FIND A COMPOSITION THAT IS, UH, IS A BALANCE BETWEEN THE EMPTY AND THE FALL AND THE SOLID ELEMENTS JUST TO, TO HAVE, UM, SOME KIND OF, UM, HARMONY. HARMONY AND THE FADA. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ARE PLAYING WITH THE VERTICAL ELEMENTS, THE SOLID ELEMENTS, AND THE ONLY ON THE ENTRANCE JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A INTEREST BUILDING ON THE . YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, IS THERE ANYBODY, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC QUESTIONS SPEAK? THERE'S LIKE A FEW ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVES, UM, JUST FOR YOU, FOR YOUR REFERENCE. UM, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, I, I CALL IT FLAMINGO COLOR. THE FLAMINGO COLOR, LIKE, UH, ON THE, ON THE SIDE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING TOO, TO GIVE IT LIKE SOME UNITY. SO WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND, UM, THE SAME WITH THE, WITH THE YELLOW, UH, BLOCK THAT IT'S, UH, HELPING TO COVER THE STAIRS. SAME SITUATION AS BEFORE. WE HAVE THE STAIRS PRETTY MUCH IN THE FRONT FACADE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, DISSIMILATE THAT THEY ARE LIKE THE MAIN ELEMENT IN THE FRONT. SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE PLAY WITH THE VOLUMES. UM, I THINK THAT, UH, YEAH, WELL IN THE, IN THE BACK WE HAVE THE SAME COLOR, LIKE IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A STRIDE THAT IT'S, UH, CUTTING BY CONTINUING IN THE SAME HEIGHT AND DIMENSIONS ALL AROUND THE, THE BUILDING. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE BETTER THERE. AND WE STILL HAVE THE, THE, THE GREEN, YEAH, THE COVERING OF THE CORRIDORS WITH THOSE, UH, UM, MESH. IT'S NOT A MESH, IT'S UM, LIKE A WIRE WIRED, A TRELLIS. IT'S NOT, NOT THE TRELLIS VERTICALLY, THE CO THE TWO CORRIDORS ARE CONTINUING. WE HAVE LIKE A, LIKE A, LIKE A PATIO IN THE SECOND FLOOR AND IT'S GIVING, UH, THE IDEA OF CONTINUING WITH THE GREEN GIVING THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LIKE AN INTERIOR PERSPECTIVE HERE NOW. OKAY. UM, YEAH, LIKE A LIGHT WALL, BUT [02:50:01] PERMEABLE, NOT SO DENSE. IT'S NOT LIKE A GREEN WALL, IT'S LIKE THE WIRES, UH, LET LETTING THE, THE VE THE VEGETATION TO, TO RICE. UM, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FEELING. UH, I DON'T HAVE THE, IN IN THIS CHANGE. I DON'T HAVE THE, THE INTERIOR PERSPECTIVE OF THE CORRIDOR, BUT YOU HAVE THAT SHADOW OF THE PLANTS. IT'S, IT'S VERY BIOPHILIC, LET'S SAY. OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. YES. OKAY. FANTASTIC. IS THERE ANYBODY, ANYBODY, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? UH, WE HAVE DAK RE'S HANDS ARE RAISED. IT MAY BE FROM THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. I, I'M SORRY, I WAS MAIL ADDRESS OF, UM, SO I CAN SEND THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I JUST TOOK, UH, IN THE VIDEO OF THE CONDITION OF THAT PROJECT AT 10 15. YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, DAX, WE'VE ACTUALLY MOVED ON. IF YOU COULD SUBMIT YOUR MATERIALS DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOU, YOU CAN EMAIL DRB@MIAMIBEACHFL.GOV. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD. UM, I WILL SAY I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC AND WHAT, AGAIN, MASSIVE TRANSFORMATION. UM, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO CHAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND IT REALLY, I THINK, AND I HOPE YOU'LL, EVERYBODY ON YOUR TEAM WILL AGREE RESULTED IN, IN A MUCH BETTER BEAUTIFULLY BUILDING FOR THIS MIAMI BEACH LOCATION. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, I AGREE. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY IS I DON'T KNOW IF THESE COLORS LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT'S ON. WELL, YEAH, THEY, THOSE ARE LIKE STANDARD COLORS THEY HAVE, BUT THEY CAN CUSTOMIZE THE COLORS AS EXACTLY AS THE RENDER BECAUSE I LIKE THOSE, THESE LOOK A LITTLE CLICHE TO ME. YEAH. UM, BUT THE COLORS, THAT'S TOO BRIGHT, RIGHT? YEAH. THE COLORS AND THE PRESENTATION ARE GREAT. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO, THAT'S THE MATERIAL THOUGH. OKAY. MATERIAL. GOT IT. OKAY. BUT THEY, THEY, THEY CAN CUSTOMIZE, UH, THE, THE, THE EXACTLY COLOR CODE THAT WE PROVIDE. YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL PIECE, IT TOOK SO LONG TO FIND THE RIGHT COLOR. SO WE TRIED TO HAVE SEVERAL UM, SAMPLES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE, YEAH, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME. BUT THE IDEA IS TO USE THE A ONE THAT IS GONNA BE CUSTOM ON COLOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THE COLORS IN THE PRESENTATION ARE GORGEOUS. SO, YEAH, I AGREE. JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. I, I ECHO, UM, WHAT WAS JUST SAID, THE COLORS ARE VERY NICE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, YOU HAVE THE SIGN ON THIS BUILDING, THE DBO SIGN. MM-HMM. . UH, WHAT MATERIAL IS THAT? WELL, UH, WE DIDN'T DISCLOSE WHAT CONCEPT THAT PROBABLY'S GONNA BE AN ALUMINUM TOO. MM-HMM. ALUMINUM COLOR. I, I BELIEVE SO. IT'S NOT, UH, DECIDED YET, BUT MOST LIKELY, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE EFFORT, UM, THE CARE TO DETAIL. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PROVIDING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DESIGN ELEMENTS, UH, CREATING A LANGUAGE WITHOUT IT BEING OVERLY FUSSY. SO I WOULD BE EXCITED TO GET THIS, UH, SEE THIS, UH, PROJECT BUILT, IT FEELS MIAMI BEACH MEETS LIKE PALM SPRING, AND IT KIND OF, UH, EXCITES ME ABOUT SORT OF THE FUTURE OF A MIAMI BEACH DESIGN LANGUAGE. YOU KNOW, IT PULLS FROM THE PAST, BUT LOOKS FORWARD. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH, I AGREE. AND I THINK THAT IS THIS, UM, THESE NEW REGULATIONS GET REALIZED AS STRUCTURES. I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS, IS, AND THE OTHER ONE TOO, BUT THIS ONE EVEN MORE SO, IS GONNA BE LOOKED AT BY OTHER ARCHITECTS AS THIS IS WHAT, BECAUSE YOU DID TAKE THAT REQUIREMENT OF THAT THE STAIRWAY NEEDS TO BE IN THE FRONT, BUT ADDED, YOU KNOW, JUST ENOUGH ARTISTIC SCREENING TO IT TO HAVE IT FEEL COHESIVE. UM, A A STATEMENT, BUT NOT AN OVERBEARING ONE. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S AMAZING TO ME WHAT A CHANGE OF PALETTE AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN FORMS CAN DO. UM, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'VE BEEN NOTICING THIS IN DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AROUND TOWN. UM, THE, THE, THE TR THE, THE, THE, WHAT TO CALL IT, THE TRELLIS DETAIL WITH THE, THE GREEN, THE GREEN, THE GREEN STREAMS. JUST 'CAUSE I WAS JUST TAKING A WALK LAST NIGHT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WALK BY A HOME. IT WAS A NEW HOME. UM, AND THEY HAD THAT, AND IT, IT, IT, IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL . AND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S A BUILDING ON ALTON ROAD THAT ALSO HAS IT, YOU KNOW, ALSO NOT SUCCESSFUL. AND THAT IT JUST LOOKED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VINES ARE SORT OF DYING. THEY GO DRY OR, YEAH. THE VINES ARE DYING. IT HASN'T, IT'S SORT OF FILLED IN, BUT IT, IT [02:55:01] JUST, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IT'S STRUGGLING AND, AND I WANT, I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE OR HOW TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. BECAUSE I THINK IF IT WORKS, IT DOES LOOK LOVELY. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT FILTERING IN MM-HMM. . BUT I THINK IF IT DOESN'T WORK AND, UM, AND ARE THESE GONNA BE RENTALS OR CONDOS, RENTALS? YOU KNOW, I, I WANT, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A MANAGEMENT, UH, I WOULD SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE IS A CONCERN. SO HOW, WHAT IS THE SYSTEM? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE IRRIGATION? IS THE LIGHT CORRECT? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE? IS IT JUST WIRE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF BEFORE IT, IF THE, IF THE PLAN IN THE MEANTIME, THEY, THEY CHECK WHICH PLANTS GO BETTER, I BELIEVE. LIKE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WILL, WILL DECIDE WHICH ONE IS MORE, UM, STRONG TO SURVIVE. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE IRRIGATION. AND THE IDEA IS NOT TO BE LIKE AN ENTIRE GREEN WALL, ALL COVER. THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT LIGHT, LIKE LIGHTER INTENSITY. AND, AND YOU HAVE THOSE WIRES ALREADY AS THE MESH, AND THE REST IS, UH, LIKE A COMPANION, LIKE, LIKE GROWING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW? UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF BUYING, UH, PLANS THAT CAN SURVIVE. I BELIEVE THAT DEPENDS ON THE SELECTION. YEAH. I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT. SO HAVE YOU DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY AND SEEN IT SUCCEED? UH, NO. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I PROPOSED THIS. YEAH. I, I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF IT, ENVISION IT, IF, IF IT DOESN'T TAKE AS PLANNED, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE, WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE A SCREEN IN AND OF ITSELF, YOU KNOW, A MESH ITSELF CAN BE NICE AS WELL. UM, I MEAN, I WANT IT TO SUCCEED, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN AROUND, YEAH. THAT, THAT'S MY IDEA THAT ALREADY, ALREADY ALL THOSE, UH, WIRES, UH, TO CREATE ALREADY LIKE AN AESTHETIC LOOK. YEAH. IN CASE THAT THEY WANT JUST TO REMOVE THE VINE AND IT STILL LOOK NICE. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S ALL I WAS GONNA SAY IS I THINK IT'S THE SCALE OF THE INSTALLATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THE WIRES THEMSELF HAVE A NICE FILIGREE AND TEXTURE, WHICH THAT'S HOW YOU'VE BEEN DESCRIBING IT, THEN IF THE VINES AREN'T THERE, IT'S STILL BEAUTIFUL. AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ONE THAT YOU SAW, BUT I KNOW SORT OF AT THE LARGER COMMERCIAL SCALES, OFTEN THE BUILDINGS THAT, THAT'S THE PREVIOUS BRAND THERE BEFORE WE CHANGE THE INDUSTRIAL LOOK. HMM. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT SOMETIMES WHEN THIS IS APPLIED AT A LARGER SCALE THAN LIKE THE SCALE OF THE, THE, UM, ARCHITECTURE IS KIND OF UGLY IF THERE'S NOTHING TO COVER IT. BUT IF IT'S DONE AT THE RIGHT SCALE, IT CAN BE NICE IF THERE'S NO PLANS, YOU KNOW, THIS MAKING SURE, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT COULD HAVE A GOOD FACT JUST TO YEAH. AND, AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU. LIKE, I, I LIKE THE PROJECT TO CONTINUE WITH THE PURPOSE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU FINISHED THE PROJECT AND LIKE RIGHT. YOU KNOW? YEAH. WELL, AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST SAW THIS LAST NIGHT AND THOUGHT, OH, THAT'S ON THEIRS. UM, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO MAINTAIN IT FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT WASN'T SUCCEEDING. AND THE LIGHT LIKE, IT, IT, IT, ALL THE ELEMENTS WERE THERE FOR IT TO SUCCEED, AND IT WASN'T. SO JUST A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR, UM, ANYWAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER, I MEAN, I'LL JUST ADD THAT, I MEAN, THERE'S A BUILDING CLOSE TO WHERE I LIVE THAT I'VE SEEN IS SUCCESSFULLY DONE. SO IF YOU WANNA GO BY LIKE A, IT'S ON WEST AND LIKE 12TH OR 13TH, UM, SO MAYBE CONSIDER IT'S A BIGGER SCALE BUILDING, BUT THEY SUCCESSFULLY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. WAIT, WHICH STREET AGAIN? I THINK IT'S THE MURANO, IS THAT IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE BIKINI HOSTEL. OKAY. IF YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. UM, YEAH, MAYBE 1250 WEST THE ADDRESS. OKAY. YEAH. I'M GONNA TAKE A LOOK. MM-HMM, . YEAH. THERE'S ALSO THE VAL PARKING GARAGE THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE NOW SINCE THE 1995. AND IT'S ALL SHRUBBERY ON THE OUTSIDE. AND, UM, IT'S ON, UM, COLLINS AVENUE AND ABOUT SIXTH OR SEVENTH STREET. PERFECT. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION. UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A, A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, UM, DESIGN PROJECT, PROJECT DESIGN SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND? ALL THOSE MOTION AND A SECOND MADE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. SEE YOU NEXT MONTH, DECEMBER 10TH AND DECEMBER. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. UM, IS, IS THE LUNCH HERE YET? OR LUNCH IS HERE. YES. I WONDER IF WE CAN TAKE MAYBE A 15 MINUTE LUNCH BREAK. I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE A FULL DOCKET, SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO LONG. [03:00:01] DOES THAT SEEM APPROPRIATE? THANK YOU. OKAY, SO IT IS 1205. UH, WE'LL RECONVENE AT 1220 TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME BACK TO THE NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW [11. DRB24-1045, 437 WEST 31 STREET.] BOARD. WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA WITH, UH, DRB NUMBER 24 DASH 1 0 4 5 4 37 WEST 31ST STREET. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY, INCLUDING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK AND INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS LOCATED ON A VACANT LOT LOT. OKAY. SO, UM, OKAY. SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A, FOR AN UNDERSTORY HOME. UM, THIS IS ON AN, ON PROBABLY THE MOST IRREGULAR LOT THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE CITY. IT'S AN L-SHAPED LOT. UM, AND SO AS A RESULT OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT, THEY'VE HAD SOME INTERESTING ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE TO, UH, NAVIGATE IN ORDER TO FIT THE HOME ON THE SITE. UM, SO ON THE, ON THE L-SHAPED LOT, THEY HAVE AN EAST WEST PORTION. UM, THERE'S REALLY, IT'S VERY NARROW. THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO WITH THAT PORTION OF THE LOT. SO THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD ANY STRUCTURES ON THAT. IT WOULD JUST REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE MORE STANDARD CONFIGURATION PORTION OF THE LOT IS WHERE THEIR PRI IS, WHERE THE, WHERE THE PRIMARY HOME WILL BE LOCATED. UM, THE HOME IS OF A, A CONTEMPORARY STYLE. UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING A SETBACK VARIANCE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FIT THE UNIT SIZE THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD ON THE LOT. UM, AND SO THE, THE, THE, THE VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A 15 FOOT SETBACK AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IS WHAT IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED, WHICH IS A 30 FOOT SETBACK. UM, STAFF IS OKAY WITH THE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE, WITH THE SETBACKS OF THE HOMES ALONG, UH, WEST 31ST STREET. UM, MOST OF THE HOMES DO HAVE A 15 FOOT SETBACK, SO IT WOULD FOLLOW THAT LINE THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE EXISTING HOMES ON THAT FRONTAGE FOLLOW. UM, AND IT DOES, UM, IT DOES, IT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY THAT THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO FIT THE UNIT SIZE THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON THE PROPERTY. UM, ONE ISSUE THAT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH IS THEY'RE REQUESTING AN OVERHANG, UM, THAT WOULD SORT OF REDUCE THAT SETBACK. SO THIS WOULD BE ON THE TOP LEVEL, UM, THAT OVERHANG WOULD, WOULD GO OUT, UM, ABOUT NINE FEET. SO THERE, SO ESSENTIALLY THAT SET THAT WOULD ONLY BE SET BACK 11 FEET. STAFF IS CONCERNED THAT THAT PROJECTION IS A LITTLE FAR. UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THAT PROJECTION NOT EXCEED ONE FOOT FROM THE FACADE OF THE, FROM THE PRIMARY FACADE OF THE BUILDING. UM, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING WAIVERS SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS. UM, THE, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT FOR, UH, TWO STORY ELEVATIONS THAT EXCEED 60 FEET IN LENGTH, THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. IN THIS CASE, THEIR ELEVATION EXCEEDS THAT BY FIVE FEET. UM, AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO NOT PROVIDE THAT OPEN SPACE. UM, THEY DO, UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING SOME, UM, SOME, UM, DESIGN SOME RECESSES IN ORDER TO BREAK THAT FACADE, BREAK UP THAT FACADE AND MEET THAT INTENT. HOWEVER, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND ON, ON ONE OF THE PLANES. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THEY, UH, EXPLORE INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL RECESSES IN WALL PLANES ON THE EAST FACADE. SO ON THE WEST FACADE, THEY HAVE A LITTLE MORE MOVEMENT ON THE EAST FACADE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, THAT THEY EXPLORE, UH, WITH US WAYS THAT THEY CAN INCORPORATE SOME RECESSES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SOME MORE MOVEMENT INTO THAT FACADE. UM, THE, THEY HAVE ANOTHER WAIVER, UM, RELATED TO THE, UH, SECOND STORY SETBACK. SO THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, SETBACK, UH, OF FIVE FEET FOR THE SECOND FLOOR ELEVATION. UM, UM, AND SO THE, UH, I APOLOGIZE, I MISSPOKE ON THAT. THAT'S NOT A YEAH. THE THIRD WAIVERS, YES. OKAY. NO, I WOULD, SO THE SECOND FEET IS REQ. THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A SETBACK OF FIVE FEET FROM THE FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION FOR A MINIMUM OF 30% OF THAT FACADE. UM, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THAT REQUIREMENT. UM, GIVEN THE DESIGN OF THE HOME, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY NEEDED. IT'S A CONTEMPORARY HOME. THE, THE, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED SORT OF PROVIDES THAT MOVEMENT. SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE ISSUANCE OF THAT WAIVER. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. AND, UH, INCLUSIVE OF THE REQUESTED VARIANCE, UM, UM, WITH THE CONDITION STAFF PROPOSED THAT THE, THAT THE OVERHANG BE REDUCED, UM, AND THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF TO, UH, INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL RECESSES INTO THE ACE FACADE. THANK YOU. BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, THE BOARD. OH, I'M, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. UM, BUT WERE YOU HERE THIS MORNING TO BE SWORN IN? YEAH. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MICKEY MARRERO HERE ON BEHALF OF SUE ALZA, THE NEW OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. [03:05:01] UH, WITH ME TODAY, JOSE VIDAL FROM V THREE ARCHITECTURE AND MY COLLEAGUE BEN SHERRY. UH, WE, AS, AS LIO NOTED, IF WE CAN GET THE, OUR PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. UM, UH, AS WE NOTED, THIS IS A VERY, VERY UNIQUE LOT. FRANKLY, WHEN WE SAW THIS APPLICATION FOR THE FIRST TIME, I HAD TO LOOK AT TITLE TO MAKE SURE THE LOT WAS LEGAL. IT, IT IS, IT IS ILLEGAL LOT, BUT IT'S JUST VERY, VERY BIZARRE. I I, IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT GOT THERE, BUT WE WENT BACK SEVERAL, SEVERAL, UH, CONVEYANCES AND, AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT THROUGH DECADES. SO IT IS A, A VALID LOT. JUST DEFINITELY UNIQUE. IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE THAT REAL, WE SAY L-SHAPED LOT. THIS IS TRULY AN L-SHAPED LOT. UM, AND IT IS BETWEEN, UH, SHERIDAN STREET, SHERIDAN AVENUE, AND PEARL PALM AVENUE ON 31ST STREET. UH, THE PROPERTY IS 6,000 125 SQUARE FEET, SO IT'S PRETTY SMALL FOR THAT AREA AS IT IS. AND OF COURSE, THE BUILDABLE AREA THAT WE CAN WORK WITH IS, IS MORE FURTHER CONSTRICTED, UH, BY THE, THE, THE SHAPE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. PROPERTY ZONED RSS FOUR, UH, OBVIOUSLY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND AS, AND WITH THESE ARE CONTEXT PHOTOS AND THE LOT'S VACANT. IT'S KIND OF AN EYESORE THEY BOUGHT IT TO, TO DEVELOP IT. UM, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY JUST BOUGHT IT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, SO VERY QUICKLY HIRED JOSE AND HIS TEAM, AND WE STARTED WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS APPLICATION. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE. SO ONE THING THAT ROGELIO MENTIONED, WE ARE REQUESTING A 15 FOOT SETBACK. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SWALE IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS AREA IS 15 FEET. SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE PROPERTIES AROUND US. ALL THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT DOES GO TO ABOUT 15 FEET. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THE REQUEST IS FURTHER APPROPRIATE. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO JOSE SO HE CAN GO OVER THE DESIGN WITH YOU AND, AND WHAT HE WENT THROUGH TO MAKE THIS UNIQUE PROPERTY WORK. AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT BACK FROM HIM AT THE END TO DISCUSS THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND THE VARIANCES. THANK YOU. YOU, HI. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. UH, UH, MY NAME IS JOSE. UM, AS, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, AND MAKING IT IS KIND OF A VERY WEIRD LOT. IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF A MODIFICATION OF A LOT BACK IN THE DAYS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE WERE ALL HERE. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP PORTION OF THE NORTH SIDE, UH, WE HAVE A VERY MUCH OF A SLIVER, UH, OF LAND THERE, 13 FEET OR OR LESS, UH, WHERE WE'RE REALLY NOT DEVELOPING ANYTHING. SO THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE ASKING, AS M MENTIONED, IS THAT IN LIEU OF THE 30 FEET, WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO DO 15 FEET SETBACK. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE COMFORT, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEIGHBORS IS RATHER THAN GOING, UH, FROM END TO END OF THE PROPERTY, WE WENT AHEAD AND WE KEPT IT LIKE TWO FEET AWAY FROM, UH, AN ADDITIONAL TWO FEET AND CHANGE, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST, UM, THE GO AHEAD. SO THIS, UH, THE RIGHT REPRESENTS THERE, THE AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. AND BY THE WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THIS AREA IS 70 FEET. SO THE HOUSES ARE FORTUNATELY, VERY FAR APART FROM FROM EACH SHOULDER. UM, THIS ARE JUST ON DIAGRAM SHOWING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO KEEP A LOT OF DISTANCE FROM THE REAR. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO INCORPORATING THE POOL ASPECT INTO THE UNDER SIDE OF THE, UH, UNDER STORY TO REALLY CREATE AN AMENITY THERE. A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST USED FOR PARKING, ET CETERA. WE REALLY WANTED TO CREATE NOT ONLY THE, THE CONCEPT WHERE WE'RE CONCEALING THE CARS WHILE BRINGING THEM FURTHER IN, BUT ALSO CREATING A NICE AREA FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND SO ON, AND REALLY MAKING SOMETHING OUT IT WITH THE, WITH THE POOLING ENGAGE AND SO ON. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, THIS DIAGRAM, I'M GONNA GO VERY QUICKLY TO IT, IT KIND OF SHOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, A WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE CONFRONTED WITH, AND THE DISTANCE FROM, UH, FROM EAST TO WEST ON THE SHORE SIDE IS VERY SMALL. THE ACTUAL LOT ITSELF IS 45 FEET. SO IT'S IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, THE SLIVER THAT WE HAVE BACK THERE, WHICH IS ALMOST UNUSABLE EXCEPT FOR GREEN SPACE, UH, IS A VERY COMPACT SIZE. UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE SETBACKS. SO, UH, SO THAT, THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU WHAT, HOW WE WERE ABLE TO DRIVE THE PROGRAM TO KEEP AT A VERY, UH, COMPACT, UH, FOOTPRINT. SO, UH, UH, WE WORK WITH LIO AND HIS STAFF, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS, HE CLARIFIED A LOT OF THINGS THAT HELPED US TO, TO DEVELOP THE DESIGN. UH, ONE, UH, THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, OBVIOUSLY IS THE FRONT SETBACK. EH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS RENDERING, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PAPERS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE'RE AT THE, UH, STREET LEVEL. SO IT'S QUITE SETBACK. THE, IS THAT POINTER. UM, WELL, IN ANY CASE, THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE, OH, THANK YOU. IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, UH, THE, WHAT WE DID HERE IS THE, THE CODE REQUIRES, THIS IS ONE OF THE WAIVER MENTIONED, IS THAT THE SECOND FLOOR BE SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET FROM THE, FROM THE SETBACK LINE. AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE SUGGESTED IS THAT INSTEAD OF, [03:10:01] INSTEAD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING THAT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, BOTH STORIES ARE SET BACK, UH, SIX FEET, SEVEN, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY SETTING BACK EVEN FURTHER. A, WE, UH, AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THIS AREA HERE, THIS IS THE, UH, WHAT, UM, MR. VERIO MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ROOF THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP. EH, WHAT WE DID IS, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GOT THE STAFF COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, EH, YOU KNOW, WE WENT AHEAD AND WE, UH, ARE GONNA SHOW YOU TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, UH, THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE SEE IF WE DO REDUCE THE ROOF OVERHANG, THE ROOF OVERHANG, UH, THE, WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT IT GOES BACK, UH, TO ONE FOOT. WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, DOING IS, UH, THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES RIGHT NOW, WHICH SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SPLITTING HAIRS, BUT TO ALSO ARCHITECTS, THAT LITTLE CANTILEVER MAKES A BIG, BIG, UH, UH, IT MAKES US HAPPY, . SO WE'LL SHOW YOU, WE'LL KIND OF COMPARE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AT, AT THE FACT NEXT. SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT SHELVES SHOWING THE PROPERTY. OKAY? SO THE, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, THE OTHER WAY THAT WE'RE SEEKING IS, UH, IN LIEU OF THE PERMITTED 60 FEET. UH, WE ARE THE HOUSE EXTENDED 65 FEET. SO IN REGARDS TO, UH, ON THIS SIDE, THERE WAS NO OBJECTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE HAVE, UH, THE STAIRCASES WITH PLENTY OF GLASS, ET CETERA, UH, ON THIS SIDE OF THE HOME, UH, STAFF MENTIONED ON THIS SIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE FURTHER SET BACK IN THIS AREA. UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO LIKE TO POINT OUT THOUGH IS, UH, PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS WITH ROGELIO AND, AND, AND THE REST OF THE STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IN LIEU OF THAT IS TO CREATE MORE GLAZING ALONG THAT PROPERTY TO CREATE MORE OPENINGS. UH, THE REASON I'M MAKING THAT SUGGESTION IS BECAUSE INSIDE OF THE HOME, INCLUDING THE CORRIDORS, WE ONLY HAVE 15 FOOT, UH, TO MAKE THOSE THINGS WORK. SO, UH, AND WE HAVE THE DINING ROOM, WE HAVE LIVING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO IT WILL MAKE IT VERY SMALL. SO PERHAPS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IS, YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, OF CREATING MORE GLAZING IN THOSE AREAS. UH, THIS IS SHOWING THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, UM, BASICALLY HOW WE ARE ENGAGED IN THE POOL INTO THE HOME. UH, AND AGAIN, HERE IS ON MY ACCELER METRICS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. UH, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FURTHER SETBACK OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT, IN IN THIS DIAGRAMS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RED DOOR LINE OR SETBACKS THAT WE, YEAH. THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, THAT ACTUALLY WE HAVE MORE SPACE, UH, THAN REQUIRED THERE. OKAY? SO WE, UH, WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES FOR THE, FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME OR ANYTHING. WE'RE GOING EXACTLY BY CODE. UH, WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FLOOR DESIGN, ELEVATION CRITERIA, EVERYTHING, UH, THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF, UH, THE, UH, I'M SORRY, THIS, THIS IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOME. THIS IS WHERE THE COMING WAS ABOUT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THE VOLUME A LITTLE BIT. UH, AGAIN, WE, WE WILL BE VERY LIMITED TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. MAYBE WE CAN DO A FOOT, AND AGAIN, IT'LL BE FAIRLY TIGHT SPACE. PERHAPS WHAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN IS, YOU KNOW, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, A STAFF TO PROVIDE MORE GLAZING, THAT KIND OF THING. UH, THIS IS THE, UH, THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE HAVE A THERE. OKAY, THIS IS YOUR SECTIONS. OKAY. SO IN THIS AREA HERE, THIS IS, UH, IF YOU, UH, THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. WHAT WE ARE, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR 15 FOOT SETBACK LINE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. SO WE ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE A 25% OVERHANG, UH, FROM YOUR SETBACK, UH, WITH THE CANOPY. SO AT THIS MOMENT, AND THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT SHOWS IT. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROJECTING THAT ELEMENT THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES, EH, AND WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS TO BRING IT BACK TO ONE FOOT. UM, NEXT, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CRAZY SITE, . OKAY? UM, AND THEN KEEP GOING AS WELL. UH, I'LL LET MAKE YOU TAKE OVER. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SHOW YOU THE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, ROOF, UH, DIFFERENCES. SO, THANK YOU AGAIN. UH, JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. AND YEAH, JUST, UH, CLARIFY JUST TORA, YOU MENTIONED NINE FEET. IT IS THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES, THE OVERHANG. AND IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, IT BEING IMPORTANT TO JOSE'S TEAM FROM ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, THE, THE OWNER I SPOKE TO HER YESTERDAY REALLY DOES PREFER THE ADDITIONAL OVERHANG. JUST ADD, ADDS A MORE INTEREST, A LITTLE MORE SHADING. AND WE DON'T REALLY THINK IT MAKES A HUGE IMPACT. AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING THE 15 FEET THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BLOCK. WE'RE NOT IMPOSING BEYOND ANYTHING, AND THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF ROOM. GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE LOT ITSELF IS SO NARROW, WE DO THINK IT'S, IT'S WARRANTED. UH, STAFF AGREES WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE MEET THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA. UM, I CAN GO OVER THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THINK YOUR REPORT TELL, UH, [03:15:01] LISTS THEM WELL. UH, WE BELIEVE THAT, THAT THIS IS REALLY, WE, WE TALK ABOUT VARIANCES SOMETIMES, AND IT'S TENUOUS. WE COULD HAVE LIKE TWO MORE MINUTES. WE TALK ABOUT VARIANCES SOMETIMES, WHETHER WE MEET THE HARDSHIP OR THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY CRITERIA. SOMETIMES THAT LINE IS, IS, IS VERY GRAY HERE. I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR. THE LOT ITSELF IS, IS, IS UNIQUE AND PROVIDES THAT, THAT NECESSARY HARDSHIP. ONE THING THAT WAS NOT IN THE REPORT WAS NOT IN THE, IN THE STAFF'S MATERIALS, 'CAUSE IT HAPPENED DURING THIS HEARING. AND I, I EMAILED ROHELIO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT. WE DID REACH OUT TO SOME NEIGHBORS. WE DID GET TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM FOLKS ON THE BLOCK DURING THE MORNING PORTION OF THIS HEARING. I SENT THEM TO ROGELIO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S THE OWNER OF 5 21 WEST 30TH STREET AND 31 41 SHERIDAN AVENUE. ALL WITHIN PROXIMITY. I, I KNOW OUR CLIENT REACHED OUT TO SOME NEIGHBORS. NOT EVERYONE WAS AVAILABLE, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY OBJECTIONS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE RECORD. UM, WITH THAT, I, I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE, AND IF LONG THIS HAS ANYTHING ELSE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING. UH, WE, WE WE'RE HAPPY WITH STAFF CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITH REGARD TO CONDITION E ON RECESSING, THE, THE E FACADE. WE WOULD, WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE COMMENT, AND AS JOSE MENTIONED, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE CONDITION, BUT WORK WITH STAFF AND IT GLAZING BE AN OPTION BECAUSE AGAIN, INDENTING IT BACK FURTHER. JUST TAKES AWAY FROM THE SPACE ON A VERY, VERY NARROW LOT AS IT IS. EVEN IF WE DO NOTHING, IT REMAINS VERY NARROW. SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT ARTICULATION WITH, WITH GLAZING OR ADDITIONAL OTHER ELEMENTS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND AGAIN, WE RE WE WOULD LIKE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT, BUT WE REQUEST THAT CONDITION F BE REMOVED AND WE'D BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE THREE FOOT EIGHT INCH OVERHANG IF YOU ALL SEE FIT. I, AND IF I MAY, I, I KNOW WE'RE OUT OF TIME JUST TO SHOW YOU THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO ROOFS. UH, IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE CAN, IF WE COULD JUST PULL THE PRESENTATION BACK UP. OH, SORRY. I'LL MAKE IT VERY QUICK. UH, SO, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE THREE FOOT EIGHT OVER, HANG ON THE SIDE, BACK NEXT ONE. AND THEN THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE. LEMME GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO AGAIN, THREE FOOT EIGHT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SHORTEN IT BACK, I KNOW IT'S SPLITTING HAIRS, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE CANOPIES AGAIN, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE FIND IT'S GONNA GIVE THE HOUSE A VERY DIFFERENT PLAYER. WHEN YOU SEE A LOT OF THE MODERN HOMES, UH, THAT ARE BUILT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE VERY BOXY AND THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTIONS AND THINGS THAT I THINK IS WHAT REALLY THE CODE TRIES TO DO WITH THE . , THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? UH, I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY. I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? UM, SO I, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S, UH, ANALYSIS THAT THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE, THE PROPERTY WARRANTS THE VARIANCE. THEY OF COURSE, UH, STAFF, UM, PROPOSE THAT IN ORDER TO, TO MITIGATE, UM, THE IMPACT THAT THIS CANOPY BE REDUCED FROM THREE FOOT EIGHT AND A HALF INCHES TO, TO ONE FOOT MICKEY AS YOU WERE ADDRESSING. SO AS A, AS A NON DESIGN PER PERSON, HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS ONE FOOT, UM, CANOPY WOULD, WOULD EVEN LOOK LIKE. UM, I MEAN, I THINK IT SOUNDS A LITTLE SILLY. I'M, I'M INCLINED TO, TO, TO GRANT THE VARIANCE, YOU KNOW, AS REQUESTED WITH THREE FEET, EIGHT AND A HALF INCHES. UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYWHERE IN YOUR SLIDE OR JUST SOME SOMETHING, SOMETHING HELP, HELP ME SORT OF HELP US SORT VISUAL. CAN YOU SHOW THOSE LAST TWO THAT YOU JUST SHOWED, OR LAST FOUR VI VISUALIZE WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH A ONE FOOT, YOU KNOW, ONE FOOT PROJECTION INSTEAD OF, OKAY. WAS IT THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO, TWO FEET? EIGHT, EIGHT AND A HALF INCHES? SO, SO, SO IF I MAY, UH, ON IN ESSENCE THE, THE COURT ALLOWS YOU TO PROJECT 25%, ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GRANTED THE 15 FOOT SETBACK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS TECHNICALLY ALLOWED OBVIOUSLY A, A, A STOP, YOU KNOW, IS, IS TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND EVERYTHING, UNDERSTAND THE RESULT. SO, BUT WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THIS, THIS PROJECTION THAT WE HAVE HERE, THE HOUSE IS SEVEN, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, OF THIS HOME IS 70 FEET AWAY FROM THE OTHER PROPERTY, WHICH HAS ANOTHER, UH, 15 FEET SETBACK FOR THE MOST PART ACROSS THE STREET. SO IT'S QUITE FAR BACK IN REALITY THAT SEPARATION, THIS IS WHEN WE BRING IT DOWN IN FOOT IS MINUTE. BUT AS AN ARCHITECT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS WHERE YOU SEE THIS GLORIOUS CANTILEVERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND TO, YOU KNOW, IT, TO SOME PEOPLE IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE COLOR PALETTE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF ON THE SHIP THAT YOU WAS PRESENTED, AND IT LOOKS GREAT IN PRESENTATION, WHICH BY THE WAY, ALWAYS HAPPENS TO US BECAUSE IN ONE MONITOR IT LOOKS ONE WAY AND IN THE OTHER WAY TO ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE NOTICE AS ARCHITECTS, UH, THE CLIENT ALSO IS IN LOVE WITH THE DESIGN. SHE'S, THIS IS GONNA BE HER HOME. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, IT MAKES A, A DIFFERENCE TO US. IT'S MINUTE, BUT IT LISTEN AS A, AS A, AS A NON, AS A, THE NON-DESIGN PERSON, UM, ON THE BOARD, UM, I CAN, [03:20:01] I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE. I CAN SEE WHY, YOU KNOW, THE, WHY THE, THE LARGER PROJECTION IS PREFERRED. UM, YOU KNOW, AND TO THE EXTENT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE, ARE ALSO INCLINED, I'M INCLINED TO GRANT THE VARIANCE WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF, UM, OF THE CANOPY PROJECTION BEING REDUCED. THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY TOO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A, I I REALLY LIKE THIS DESIGN IN GENERAL, UM, THAT THIS IS A SMALL LOT. I WENT AND I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, UM, AND YOU'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO PACK A LOT INTO A VERY COMPACT SPACE. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE WAIVER FOR THE SIDE TO ADD GLAZING. THAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE MY RECOMMENDATION BEFORE I CAME TO THE MEETING. SO I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE. I'VE ALSO BEEN INSIDE HOUSES THAT HAVE THESE AWKWARD NICHES IN THEM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, AND ESPECIALLY WITH A SMALLER HOUSE LIKE THIS, UM, I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE, WE'RE ACTIVELY EXPLORING THE UNDERSTORY AS A HOME TYPOLOGY, AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF HOMES THAT ARE LARGE. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS AN INTERESTING FIRST STEP IN WHAT WOULD AN UNDERSTORY HOME LOOK LIKE WITHIN A SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE A MODEL FOR FUTURE DESIGNERS AND ARCHITECTS, AND I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB WITH THAT. UM, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES ARE, WE'RE GONNA IN INTERIOR AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ON THE WATERFRONT AND IT'S A BIG, THERE'S LOTS OF SPACE. THESE ARE IN SMALL LOTS WITHIN A DENSER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I THINK THAT THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME MORE ATTENTION BEING PAID TO THE IMPACT OF THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT THAT AN UNDERSTORY ALLOWS, WHICH AGAIN, WE WANT THE HOMES TO BE FOR RESILIENCY, TALLER UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT I THINK THAT WE ALSO JUST NEED TO BE EVEN MORE SENSITIVE TO WHAT THE IMPACT OF BUILDINGS LIKE THIS WILL BE, ESPECIALLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S ALL LOWER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO IN GENERAL, I LOVE A CANTILEVER. WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE FRONT FACADE IS I LIKE THAT IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THE ROOF IS FLOATING BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT RECESS DETAIL. SO AGAIN, A NICE GESTURE. UM, BUT HAVING, I PURPOSELY WENT AND LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE COMMENT THAT STAFF MADE THAT I, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EXTENSION WOULDN'T BE OVERBEARING. UM, AND AS MUCH AS I LIKED THE DESIGN, I, I HAD THE SAME CONCERN STANDING THERE ON THE STREET LOOKING UP, LOOKING AT THE OTHER PROPERTIES. UM, SO I, WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE HERE WHERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I, I'M, I AM CONCERNED AT THE IMPACT THAT THIS HOME IS GONNA HAVE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING, AND YOU MIGHT HATE ALL OF THESE IDEAS, EVEN JUST, YOU KNOW, IF THE CANTILEVER IS THE THIEF OF CANTILEVER IS THE DETAIL THAT REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE DESIGN FOR THE HOMEOWNER. I DON'T KNOW IF THEN SHIFTING THE WHOLE PROPERTY BACK, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THAT EXTENDED SIDE YARD, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA LOSE THAT YOU HAVE THAT EXTRA PROPERTY. BUT THAT WAY, BECAUSE AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, I WOULD SUPPORT THE 15, THE, THE 15 FOOT SETBACK. UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE AS STAFF HAS POINTED OUT THAT, UM, THE HOME NEXT DOOR TO IT ALSO HAS THE SAME SETBACK. AND I, I THINK IT MAKES, IT GIVES IT A NICE, UM, ELEMENT, UM, TO THE STREET. I THINK IT'S GOOD URBAN PRACTICE TO HAVE ALL THE HOMES ALIGNED LIKE THAT. SO BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE SEVERELY REDUCED SETBACK, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES THE, IT MAKES THE, THIS OVERHANG A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SWALLOW. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, UH, ON THE BOARD ARE GONNA FEEL, BUT THAT WAS MY INITIAL IMPRESSION. I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER THOUGHTS. SO I TOTALLY GET THE SETBACK THING, BUT I, I MEAN THE OVER I SEE IT'S A BIG ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE AND THERE'S NOT ROOM TO BACK IT UP ANYMORE. I MEAN, I GET WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE SETBACK LINE ON, ON THE REAR OF 20 FEET, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE, ABLE TO GO THERE. YEAH, I'M SURE. WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS IT? ABOUT 3000. JUST, JUST A TAD OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ONLY ABLE TO BUILD THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE BEING, WE GRANTED THE 15 RIGHT FOOT SETBACK. YES. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT. OKAY. NO, AND HOW, HOW, HOW TALL IS THAT THING? IT IS THE HOUSE. I'M SORRY. THE HOUSE IS, YES. UH, PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 26, 26 26. AND UM, AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE HEIGHT OF THE, IT GO BACK TO THIS SECTION. AND HOW DOES IT RELATE? 'CAUSE THE OTHER HOUSE IS, THAT'S THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? WELL, WELL, THE, THE CODE HERE ALLOWS FOR 30 FOR UNDER STORIES IN THIS DISTRICT, [03:25:01] 31 FEET, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING 26. I, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THE SET. SO NEXT DOOR ON THE WEST SIDE, THE HOUSE ACTUALLY, IT'S A VERY SMALL BLOCK. AND SO THE HOUSE ACTUALLY FACES, I GUESS IT'S AROUND PALM, RIGHT? SO IT'S THE SIDE OF THAT HOUSE, SO IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT IT. YEAH. AND THEN, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE IT'S A SMALL HOUSE AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET THEY'RE SMALL SINGLE STORY HOUSES. AND THE STREET ITSELF IS NOT VERY WIDE. SO THAT, THAT WAS, I THINK IF THIS WAS A NORMAL WIDE STREET, IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME EFFECT. AGAIN, YOU'RE, THEY'RE MOVING, NOTHING IS VERY TALL. EVERYTHING ALONG 31ST STREET OR THAT SECTION IS VERY, VERY LOW. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF TREES. SO THAT'S WHY IT, IT, I WENT IN HOPING THAT IT WOULDN'T, BUT I CAN VERY MUCH SEE WHAT STAFF'S POINT WAS, THAT IT REALLY WILL MAKE AN IMPACT. AND I DON'T, I I, SO I SEE NINE FEET AS BEING EXCESSIVE. I ALSO SEE ONE FOOT AS BEING INCONSEQUENTIAL. SCOTT, JUST BEFORE YOU, NINE FEET IS, I THINK, I BELIEVE WE'RE, HELL YOU MISSPOKE. IT'S THREE AND A THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES. I'M REFERRING TO THE SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. OKAY, GOT IT. THE OVERHANG. SO, SO THE OVERHANG IS THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES. SO THE OVERHANG IS, SO YOU'RE PROPOSING A THREE FOOT OVERHANG, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IT, IT WOULD BE ONE FOOT TO STICK TO THE CODE, CORRECT? RIGHT. WELL, NO, NO CODE ALLOWS EITHER ONE, ONE BECAUSE IT'S A 25% PROJECTION. SO NO, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, YEAH, THE, WITH A STAFF, AND OBVIOUSLY I DON'T, I'LL, I'LL LIBERAL HELL YOU SPEAK FOR STAFF, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE REPORT IS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY CREATES A HARDSHIP WARRANTING THE GRANT TO THE VARIANCE. BUT THAT THE, UH, CANOPY MAY BE VIEWED AS IM IMPOSING ON THE STREET, UM, AT ITS PROPOSED THAT, UH, I GUESS DEPTH OF THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A TWO FOOT EIGHT AND A HALF INCH REDUCTION OF THAT TO, TO MITIGATE THE, THE IMPOSITION OF THAT FEATURE. UM, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ISN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING REVIEWED IT, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT A DESIGN PERSON, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPOSING. UM, AND I THINK THAT IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MAKES FOR A BETTER DESIGN TO ALLOW THE HOUSE TO BE BUILT AS PROPOSED THAN TO CUT, YOU KNOW, TO FEED EIGHT AND A HALF INCHES OFF OF THE PROJECTING CANOPY. AND, AND IF I MAY ANSWER THIS SCOTT'S QUESTION, UH, THE, WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO 27 FEET. WE ARE CURRENTLY AT, UH, 20, UH, 26 FEET FROM THE DESIGN PHOTO ELEVATION. EH, THE OVERHANG ITSELF IS ONLY TWO FEET, UH, ABOVE THE 26 FEET, WHICH YOU ARE PERMITTED TO GO TO THREE FEET. WE ACTUALLY KEPT A LOWER, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE SOME, YOU KNOW, A, A LITTLE BIT MORE, EH, AND I THINK THE CONCERN THOUGH IS THE VER LIKE VERTICAL COMING OUT VERTICALLY AND THE EFFECT THAT THAT CREATES FOR THE WHOLE STRUCTURE. AND I ACTUALLY THINK IN REGARDS TO THAT MATTER, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE HOMES AND, AND, AND WE DO THE COMPARISON WITH THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE IN THE AREA, UH, THOSE HOMES ARE OBVIOUSLY WELL BELOW FLOOD CRITERIA. AND THIS IS PART OF THE, THE RESILIENCY ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. SO I AM IN COMPLETELY AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO BE OVERWHELMING IN OUR HEIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT NOT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, EH, SO WE LITERALLY KEPT THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT WHERE, WHERE UNDER WHERE WE NEED TO BE, EH, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU SEE THAT THING, YOUR, YOUR LINE OF SIGHT, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BUILDING WHERE THAT IS A CANOPY OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACTUAL TWO FEET EXTRA IS NOT GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE FROM THE PERSON THAT IS LOOKING AT IT ACROSS THE STREET. BUT THE, THE SILHOUETTE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF IS GOING TO HAVE THAT LIGHT AND SHADOW THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAST. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A MUCH NICER STRUCTURE. THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT ONE FOOT IS REALLY NOT WORTH IT. LIKE IT'S NOT GONNA DO THE EFFECT OF HAVING THAT AND TWO MORE FEET. IT'S LIKE MY, IT'S, IT'S TWO AND A HALF OF MY TENNIS SHOES 24 FEET AWAY FROM YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN I IS GOING TOO OVERWHELM. I JUST, MY THOUGHT, AND I APPRECIATE STEPH'S INPUT, BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WITH BANGS WHEN THEY'RE REALLY SHORT, RIDICULOUS VERSUS, SO IT'S JUST A THING. YEAH, I, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, I THINK YOUR CASE WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR CASE BE MADE ABOUT SOUTH FACING OVERHANGS, PROVIDING AS MUCH SHADE AS POSSIBLE. UM, I LOVE DEEP OVERHANGS, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE. I AGREE WITH AT, AT THE HEIGHT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT PERCEIVED. BUT I DO ALSO UNDERSTAND STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE LETTING A BUILDING PART OF THE BUILDING COME WITHIN NINE FEET OF THE STREET. AND I THINK THAT'S MORE CONCERNING GOING FORWARD. SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. UM, THE THING THAT ALSO CONCERNS ME THOUGH IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA GO TO YOUR PAGE, [03:30:01] LIKE THE ROOF IS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A FORM OF PROTECTION FOR THE HOUSE AND FOR THE WALLS. WE HAVE OVERHANGS FOR SHADING, BUT ALSO TO KEEP THE RAIN OFF OF OUR WALLS AND AS MUCH WINDOWS AND UM, TRY TO KEEP WATER OUT. SO IF YOU GO TO THE REAR, LIKE IF YOU GO TO YOUR RENDERINGS IN THE REAR, YOU LET THE WALLS NOT BE COVERED BY THE ROOF AND ACTUALLY COME UP HIGHER THAN THE ROOF WHICH YOU'RE SETTING. YEAH. THERE. AND I GO BACK, UH, THAT, SO YOU'RE LETTING, YOU'RE SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR, YOU KNOW, CRACKING IN THE STUCCO. UH, THERE'S NO DETAILING AT THE TOP OF THAT PARAPET AT ALL. SO I MEAN, AGAIN, I LIKE THE DEEP OVERHANG, BUT WHAT I WISH HE WOULD BE COMING TO US WITH IS ABOUT GOOD CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGY AND THE LONGEVITY OF THE BUILDING. AND IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE SEEING THIS DETAIL AT THE REAR OF THE HOUSE WHERE THOSE WALLS ARE EXPOSED AND JUST ASKING FOR DETERIORATION. SO THAT'S MY FRIENDLY ADVICE. BUT , SO WOULD YOU EXTEND THE ROOF IN THE BACK? UM, I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE PRESENTATION AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO REALLY, AT FIRST I THOUGHT THE WALLS WERE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND UN LEVEL, BUT I THINK IT'S THE ANGLE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS. BUT I MEAN, YES, LIKE THE ROOF IS A PROTECTIVE ELEMENT, SO I WOULD NEVER PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TREAT A WALL LIKE THAT. BUT, AND, AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS WHY I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTABILITY AND ALL THAT, WHICH VERY GOOD POINTS. HOWEVER, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, IN THIS CASE, FOR US TO EXTEND THE EYEBROW, I THINK WE'LL BE MORE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBOR ON THE BACK BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A 20 FOOT SETBACK. SO IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE CASTING A LOT OF SHADOWS ON THE NEIGHBOR. THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE. YES. SO IT'S NOT GONNA CAST A SHADOW, BUT YOU STILL, BUT VISUALLY YOU WOULD STILL BE A LOT CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBOR. YEAH, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN, SORRY, ONE COUPLE USING THE ARGUMENT THAT THE TWO FEET IN THE FRONT IS GONNA BE IMPERCEPTIBLE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S TERRIBLY IMPOSING IN THE BACK. I DON'T THINK IS A CONSISTENT IN THE FRONT. YOU HAVE A 70 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, WHEREAS, WHEREAS HERE, YOU'RE 20 FEET AWAY ONLY FROM THE NEIGHBOR. YEAH. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE, UM, THE BACK AS IT IS. 'CAUSE IT SHOWS, IF YOU BRING UP THE, THE PICTURE AGAIN, IT SHOWS THE, AN ESCALATION OF THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR HABITABLE FLOOR BEING OUT FURTHER. THE SECOND FLOOR GOES UP, GOES BACK A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THE ROOF GOES BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SO IT, THERE'S AN ESCALATION. AND SO I LIKE THAT DESIGN. I WOULD LEAVE THAT ONE AS IS, AS TO THE FRONT. I LIKE THE, UH, CANTILEVER OF THAT ROOF GOING OUT, BUT MAYBE IT GOES OUT TOO MUCH. UM, SO MY QUESTION TO I GUESS ROGELIO AND ALL OF YOU, IS THERE A WAY TO REDUCE THE THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES, UM, AND GO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE ONE FOOT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING? OKAY. AND THE THREE FEET, SO THAT THERE IS PROJECTION, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE THREE FEET, EIGHT INCHES FROM, FROM. AND WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE DESIGN FROM OUR END, IF WE CAN GET 30 INCHES, WE'LL MAKE THIS ARCHITECT VERY HAPPY. . AND I THINK, I DON'T THINK A, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE SETTING A A A BAD PRESENT. I MEAN, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE HOMES IN THIS AREA, THEY'RE ALL SET BACK AT 15 FEET RIGHT NOW, EH, IN IN THE FUTURE, UH, ALL THESE HOUSES, IF THEY ARE REDEVELOPED, SOME OF THEM ARE VERY GOOD, BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT ARE THERE THAT SHOULDN'T BE, UH, MODIFIED, BUT SOME ARE NOT THE SAME CALIBER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE AT THE SAME, UH, UH, RIGHT HEIGHT STANDARD. SO THAT, SO IF WE CAN COMPROMISE ON 30 INCHES, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE EXTREMELY HAPPY. SO WITH THAT, HAVING BEEN SAID, I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE GROUP IS MY SENSE IS WE DO NOT HAVE FIVE VOTES FOR A THREE FOOT EIGHT AND A HALF INCH, UM, PROJECTING CANOPY. UM, AND SO IN, IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO PEEL OFF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOLDOUTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE WITH 36 INCHES, WHICH WOULD BE EIGHT AND A HALF INCHES CUT OFF WITH, HE'S SAYING 30 INCHES. HE'S SAYING I THINK TWO AND A HALF FEET IS HE'S, THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN, HE'S SAYING. SO THERE'S, SO I AND ROGELIO, CAN WE TAKE UP THE, THE VARIANCE SEPARATELY? WE CAN. SO, UM, I MOVE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE, UM, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE CANOPY PROJECT NO MORE THAN 30 INCHES LIO, I'D LIKE TO FROM HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. MAKE A MOTION. SORRY, I, YEAH, THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO COMMENT ON. DO YOU, DO YOU LIKE DESIGN RELATED [03:35:01] OR RELATED TO THIS? UM, IT'S ALL I'M SORT OF LOOKING AT, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA WITHDRAW MY MOTION. I'M GONNA LET SARAH, OKAY, BUT THEN, AND SAY HER, WE'LL REVISE IT, SAY HER PIECE, UM, SORT OF ON, SO I'M CURIOUS. IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, OR WHAT MYRA WAS SAYING WAS, I WAS SAYING LIKE THERE HAS TO BE ROOM FOR COMPROMISE AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. SO I AGREE WITH, I MEAN, SHAUNA'S RECOMMENDATION ABOUT EXTENDING THE ROOF ALONG THE BACK SEEMS TO ME VERY REASONABLE. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT'S NOT A REASON, I'M NOT, NOT GONNA VOTE FOR IT, BUT I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU'RE SO AGAINST IT. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, YOU ABOUT, I NOTICED, AND MAYBE IT WAS JUST NOT ON THE PLAN, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ON, IN THE UNDERSTORY, THERE'S NO WALL BETWEEN THE, THE GARAGE, THE CARS AND THE POOL AREA. WAS THAT JUST AN OVERSIGHT OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE ALL THE WAY THROUGH A ACTUALLY, THE, ONE OF THE THINGS IS TO TRY TO KEEP IT AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE, UHHUH. AND THE, THE CO INTENT IS NOT TO BLOCK IT OFF SO THAT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A THREE STORY HOME. SO WE ACTUALLY INTENTIONALLY KEPT IT AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE ON THE, ON THE LOWER LEVEL SO THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE IN THE POOL, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE CARS. I THINK ONE OF THE DRAWINGS SHOWS A METAL FENCE. NO, YES. I'M SORRY. I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. EH, I I WAS REFERRING TO THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, EH, WE DO HAVE A PRIVACY GATE ALONG THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. UH, SO YOU DO HAVE PRIVACY FROM, FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE DOING THE INTERIOR DESIGN FOR THE HOME. SO WE'RE GONNA BE PLAYING ALONG WITH FURNITURE, UH, SCREENINGS AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE WILL BE A DIVISION. YEAH, I, I WAS, IT WAS JUST SORT OF AN ODD THING TO HAVE NOT BE INCLUDED. UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS A REASON WHY. UM, OKAY. MYRA, DID YOU HAVE OTHER YEAH, NO, I JUST, I HAVE A CONCERN IN THE BACK. IF YOU EXTEND THAT ROOF LINE, IT'S GONNA, IT WILL CREATE MORE SHADOWING. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THAT WOULD CREATE MORE SHADOWING ON THE POOL? 'CAUSE ALREADY AS IT IS, THE POOL IS COVERED A GOOD PORTION OF IT BY THE FIRST FLOOR, FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR BY EXTEND, IT'S, THAT'S THE NORTH SIDE, SO THERE'S NO SHADOWS. UH, I UNDERSTAND. I STILL GET SOME SUN FROM THE NORTH SIDE AND NOT DIRECT, BUT SOME SUNLIGHT I'LL CALL IT. AND YOU BRING A, YOU BRING A VERY GOOD POINT. ONE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THIS FAMILY, UH, SUE AND ALI, THEY HAVE TWO KIDS. AND WHILE WE DO HAVE A VERY LONG YARD THAT YOU CAN PLAY SHUFFLE FOR, IT IS REALLY NOT CONDUCING TO THEM PLAYING. SO PART OF THE REASON WAS WE WANTED TO ENGAGE THE POOL ON THE INSIDE, EH, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW THE KIDS TO HAVE AT LEAST 20 FEET, UH, IN THE BACK TO PLAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE L-SHAPED CONFIGURATION THAT YOU HAVE IS ONLY 13 FEET, AND IT'S REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE TO MUCH OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE LANDSCAPING AND, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF ITEM. I MEAN, TO ME IT LOOKS A LITTLE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE UNFINISHED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THE, THE WALL IS EXTENDING. IT, IT, YOU, YOU'VE CLEARLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME REFINING THE DESIGN OF THE SOUTH FACING FACADE. AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT, IT, IT SEEMS ALMOST UNFINISHED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SIDE. UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD POINT THAT SHAUNA BROUGHT OUT. SO COULD I, I, I, SORRY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS, AND, AND I'M GOING FROM MEMORY HERE, UH, BUT, UH, AS, UH, UH, THE BOARD, UH, AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROGRAM HERE, WE DO DO DO THE STEPPING BACK. SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT WE CAN EXPAND THAT ROOF BASED ON OUR, UH, LOT COVERAGE. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING FROM MEMORY, UM, HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO, TO REMEMBER, BUT EXTENDING THAT ROOF AGAIN, I DO FEEL THAT WHILE A FOOT OR SOMETHING IS NOT GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, IF I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR AND I'M 20 FEET RIGHT UP TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING A DETRIMENT TO, TO HAVE THAT CLOSER IN THE, UH, TOWARDS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, I'M JUST SORT OF SUGGESTING, DO YOU WANNA BRING UP MAYBE, UM, OH, I'M LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. I'M I PAGE EIGHT, IT'S NOT THE PRESENTATION THOUGH, THAT A RENDERING, 'CAUSE PAGE 15 HAS THE VIEW FROM THE BOARD. YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S, I I MEAN I'M NOT SUGGESTING A FULL OVERHANG, I'M JUST SAYING, AND I THINK, THINK DOESN'T EVEN COVER THE WALL TO BE TO THE END OF THE WALL SO THAT THE ROOF ENDS WHERE THE WALL ENDS. IF WE CAN DO THAT BASED ON CODE, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T REMEMBER IF, IF THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE, YOU WONDER IF I CAN BRING UP THE PAGE IN THAT. CAN I MAKE A, IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S, IT'S A RENDERING OF THE EAST OF THE WEST ELEVATION. YEAH. YEAH. I WILL GO BACK THERE. LIKE WHY DON'T YOU JUST EXTEND IT TO THE END OF THE WALL. OKAY. SO ONE, ONE OF THE DESIGN FEATURES, AND I [03:40:01] UNFORTUNATELY, UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN EXPAND. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AGAIN, PLAYING WITH THE CAMP, THREE OF, OF THE PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE THIS AREA HERE WHERE THE WALLS ARE, ARE SERVING AS A, AND LEMME SEE HOW I CAN GET TO THAT SIDE ON THIS ONE. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THESE THINGS WHERE THE ROOF OVER HANDS CREATE THIS KIND LEVERS, AND THEN THE WALLS ARE TWO PLANES THAT, UH, THAT EXTEND THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. SO FOR THAT REASON, ON THE WEST, I'M SORRY, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, WE KEPT SEPARATION TO MAKE THAT CAN DELIVER AGAIN, LOOK LIKE IT'S FLOATING, EH, SORRY. HOWEVER, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT, WE CAN ENTERTAIN EXTENDING THE ROOF THERE. AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO ALLOW TO DO THAT BASED ON THE LOCK COVERAGE. THE HOUSE, IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION, JUST SO, 'CAUSE I THINK I OBVIOUSLY JOSE'S LOOKING AT IT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA CONDITION THAT ULTIMATELY TRIGGERS A A LOT COVERAGE ISSUE OR SOMETHING ELSE. CAN WE PUT CONDITION WHERE WE WILL EXPLORE WITH STAFF THE EXTENSION OF THE ROOF TO FURTHER COVER THE BACK AND, AND WORK WITH STAFF? I MEAN, IF IT CAN BE DONE AND IT WORKS GREAT, BUT IF FOR SOME REASON IT TRIGGERS ANOTHER PROBLEM, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND DELAY THE PROJECT. SURE. I MEAN, I THINK PART OF THE SUGGESTION TOO IS THIS, THIS SEEMS LIKE SORT OF A MINOR CHANGE. YOU KNOW, I MAYBE I'M, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE, I DON'T ALTERNATIVELY TO PUT TO ALTERING THE ROOF. CAN WE NOT SHIFT THE, THE WALLS BACK TOWARDS THE HOUSE AND THEN WE DON'T TOUCH THE ROOF, BUT WE HA WE DON'T HAVE THE COVERAGE ISSUE AND YOU STILL HAVE THAT PLANE EFFECT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY. I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS PERHAPS SHIFTING THIS WALL FURTHER, YOU KNOW? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE BALCONY. SO THAT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH ROGELIO AND HIS STAFF. UH, AND AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT THESE THINGS FROM OUR PREFERENCE, WE WOULD KEEP THE GAP, WHICH I THINK IT, IT, IT ACTUALLY GIVES A LOT OF CHARACTER WITH ALL THE FLOATING ELEMENTS. EH, BUT WE CERTAINLY, AGAIN, IF, IF STAFF IS ABLE TO DOING IT THAT WAY, WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THEM HOW WE CAN WORK WITH THIS IF THE ALLOWS US TO EXTEND THIS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY CLIENT WOULD REJECT. CAN I ASK WHY YOU HAVE THE GAP ON ONE SIDE BUT NOT THE OTHER? BECAUSE SURE, I GET THE GAP IT'S ON. UM, IT'S NOT ON BOTH SIDES. THAT WALL IS TOUCHING THE ROOF. THE ENTIRE HOUSE IS ASYMMETRICAL, SO WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, TO, WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT THING GOING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. EH, SO FOR INSTANCE, EH, LIKE THE REFERENCE, ONE OF THE, UH, ARCHITECTS THAT WE LOOKED AFTER FOR INSPIRATIONS S HERE AND YOU KNOW, HE HAS VILLA UDAN, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL VILLA IN INDIA WHERE HE HAS ALL THESE OVERLAPPING ELEMENTS. BUT AGAIN, IT, IT WAS INTENTIONAL IN THE SENSE THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ASYMMETRICAL. NOT TO, NOT TO ANCHOR LIKE WITH BOOKENDS ON. YEAH, I, WELL, I GUESS IN TERMS OF DESIGN REVIEW ADVICE, THERE ARE GREAT IDEAS IN THIS PROJECT YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT IT'S LIKE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS BEING INTRODUCED. I GET THIS RIGHT RENDERING WHERE IT'S A FLOATING ELEMENT OVER THE BOX. I GET THAT AND I GET EXAGGERATING THE OVERHANG AND I CAN SUPPORT THAT. BUT THEN WHEN YOU COME TO THE BACK, YOU'VE GOT ONE WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FRONT, IT DOESN'T READ AS THESE TWO SHEER WALLS WITH A MASS OR A ROOF, YOU KNOW, RESTING ON THEM BECAUSE IT'S READING AS A HOVERING PLANE ABOVE. SO LIKE, THEY'RE TWO CONTRADICTING IDEAS AND SO THE HOUSE CAN'T BE EVERYTHING. SO JUST PURELY ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING, I WOULD CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE IDEAS AND THEN EXPRESS IT ARCHITECTURALLY, BUT THE HOVERING OF A ROOF PLANE AND THEN HAVING TWO WALLS WITH A ROOF REST ON IN BETWEEN IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH. I THINK IT UNDERMINES THE CANTILEVER EFFECT THAT YOU CAN SEE THE, IN THE BACK, THE WALL GO ALL THE WAY UP THAT IF IT JUST ENDED AT THE ROOF, YEAH, WE, WE CAN, YEAH, CAN WE, CAN WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON, ON MODIFYING THOSE THINGS. IF THAT'S UH, IF THAT IS, IF THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT, IT'S GONNA MAKE THE DESIGN MORE SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, TO YOUR POINT, IT IS ABOUT THE SMALL DETAILS AND THE INTERACTIONS OF THE PLANES AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REALLY, YOU FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS CANTILEVER, WHICH IS GREAT, THEN REALLY MAKE IT ABOUT THE CANTILEVER, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT ONE DETAIL IS PREVENTING THAT EFFECT, THEN THAT'S THE DETAIL THAT CAN BE MODIFIED, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER THAT IS. UM, OKAY. LAURA, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, I, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ELSE? NO, UM, AGAIN, I'M FINE WITH THE DESIGN IN BACK, BUT AS TO YOUR CONCERN, UM, WITH THE LOCK COVERAGE, IF YOU REDUCE THE FRONT, UM, OVERHANG AND YOU INCREASE THE BACK OVERHANG, UM, DOES THAT THEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR LOCK COVERAGE ISSUE? YES, THAT WOULD CREATE THAT, THAT BALANCE. SO IF WE, IF WE KEEP IT AT 30 INSTEAD OF THREE EIGHT, WHATEVER WE TAKE AWAY FROM THE FRONT, WE CAN COMPENSATE ON THE [03:45:01] BACK. MM-HMM, , THAT'S IT. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M GONNA AGAIN MOVE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE, UM, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE PROPOSED CANOPY BE REDUCED TO 30 INCHES A SECOND. SECOND, OKAY. I'M SORRY. BEFORE THAT ROGELIO, ARE YOU ALL RIGHT FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT WITH THE 30 INCHES VERSUS, I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY IMPROVED FROM WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. OUR CONCERN IS 'CAUSE THE SETBACK IS ALREADY SO NARROW. YEAH. HAVING A STRUCTURE SO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT, YOU KNOW, REDUCING IT TO 30 INCHES HELPS. SO, OKAY. SO THAT CERTAINLY HELPS MITIGATE THAT CONCERN. AND IT'S A, IT'S A REDUCTION OF, UM, 14 AND A HALF INCHES. YEP. SO, WHICH IS SOMETHING OVER A FOOT. SO WE HAVE A SECOND. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NOPE. MOTION PASSES. THE VARIANCE PASSES. THANK YOU, BY THE WAY. SO WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN. AND JUST BEFORE WE MAKE THE FINAL MOTION, JUST WANNA REMIND YOU ALL CONDITION E TO, I THINK EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN ADD GLAZING AS AN OPTION FOR THE, UH, ARTICULATION THERE. THANK YOU. WE HADN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT. I KNOW. I WROTE IT DOWN. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN? UH, I'LL APPROVE THE DESIGN WITH A MOTION THAT THEY REVIEW WITH STAFF THE EXTENSION OF THE ROOF AT THE REAR, OR THE TAKING OFF OF THE, OF THE, I GUESS LET'S JUST SAY THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE REAR WING WALLS TO THE ROOF SECOND. OH, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE WAIVER WITH THE, THE SIDE WAIVER TO ADD GLAZING TO INCLUDE THE SIDE WAIVER TO ADD GLAZING? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT , I THINK IF I COULD HELP CONDITION E TO ADD GLAZING AS AN OPTION. CONDITION E TO ADD GLAZING AS AN OPTION. YEAH. SHALL WE'LL INCORPORATE RECESSED WALLS OR WALLS OR GLAZING. PERFECT. MM-HMM. TO BREAK UP, UH, FURTHER THE FACADE AS REVIEWED BY STAFF AS YES, CORRECT. TO WORK WITH STAFF. A SECOND MOTION BY MS. MEYER. SECOND WAS BY MR. SHELDON. OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION TO PASSES. AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU ALL. ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY. THANK YOU. I, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, ROGELIO AND HIS STAFF. THEY WERE AMAZING TO WORK WITH. THIS WASN'T AN EASY SITE, AND EVERY TIME WE HAD A QUESTION, THEY WERE RIGHT THERE FOR US. LIKE THE SAME DAY WE AN ANSWER. THAT'S UNHEARD OF. SO THANK YOU. THEY'RE KEEPERS, RIGHT? THANK YOU. YEAH, . THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING [12. DRB24-1046, 1480 STILLWATER DRIVE.] ON TO, UH, D RRB 24 1 0 4 6 14 80 STILLWATER DRIVE AN APPLICATION. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. OH, OKAY. SO THIS IS, UH, IN, UH, A PROPOSAL FOR AN UNDERSTORY HOME. UM, THE, THE PROPOSED HOME IS OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE, UM, HAS, UH, VARYING WALLS, PLANES, AND MATERIAL ACCENTS. UH, THE PRIMARY FACADE FEATURES FLORIDA GLAZ FLOOR TO CEILING GLAZING WITH VERTICAL WOOD LOUVERS SCREENING PORTIONS OF THE FRONT FACADE FOR PRIVACY AND UN UNINTERRUPTED GLASS SHADED BY LARGE BY A LARGE TRELLIS STRUCTURE, UM, ON THE REAR OVERLOOKING BISCAY BAY. SO THIS IS A WATERFRONT LOT. UM, THE SIDE ELEVATIONS ARE PREDOMINANTLY FINISHED IN A STUCCO AND GLAZING AND INCORPORATE PLAN PLANULA MOVEMENT, UM, AND CHAMPAGNE METAL ACCENTS FOR INTEREST. UM, THE, THE APPLICANT IS NOT SEEKING ANY WAIVERS, HOWEVER, UH, STAFF HAS CONCERNS WITH THE HEIGHT. SO THIS IS IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT. UM, THE, THERE'S CURRENTLY ZONING IN PROGRESS TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF UNDERSTORY HOMES IN UNDERSTORY, UH, IN RS FOUR DISTRICT TO 28 FEET. UM, SO THAT, THAT RULE DOESN'T NECESSARILY APPLY HERE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE AN APPLICATION IN PROGRESS, BUT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT APPLICATIONS COMPLY WITH THAT LIMIT. UM, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE UNDERSTORY BE REDUCED BY TWO FEET IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE HOME, UM, TO 28 FEET. UM, SO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT THE HEIGHT BE REDUCED, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO AGAIN. UM, , I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR, UH, 1480 STEEL WATER DRIVE. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING, AS YOU KNOW, A TWO STORY HOME WITH AN UNDERSTORY. THIS, UH, HOME WAS DESIGNED WITH A CURRENT CODE. UM, AND WE [03:50:01] ARE NOT SEEKING ANY VARIANCES. WE ARE ADHERING TO ALL SETBACKS AND ALL THE ZONING REGULATIONS. UM, THE IDEA IS TO CREATE A VERY CONTEMPORARY LIGHT, UH, STRUCTURE AND TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OPENINGS AND THE SENSE OF, OF LIGHTNESS WITHIN THE SITE. UM, WE ARE WORKING ON AN RS FOUR LOT. UH, IT'S AN A NARROW 8,000, UH, SQUARE FEET LOT, WHICH, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IT'S SOMETIMES A CHALLENGE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PROGRAM. UH, WE ARE INCORPORATING OPENNESS IN THE SITES AND IN, IN ALL THE FACADES. UH, HERE IS, UM, A, A STUDY THAT WE DID OF THE STEEL WATER DRIVE. THERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE EXISTING, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, NEARBY. AND WE ALSO MAPPED, UH, SORT OF A STUDY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH, UH, RECENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE AREA. UH, THERE ARE APPROVALS FOR, UM, NEW CONTEMPORARY HOMES. UH, THEY, THEY HAVE ALSO RECENTLY BEEN BUILT AND THEY HAVE ALSO, UM, HIGHER CEILINGS, AND THEY ARE ADDRESSING, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE FOR US. UH, UH, A CONCERN REALLY IN THIS PROJECT AND MANY PROJECTS IN MIAMI BEACH IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE, AND WE WANNA START TO CORRECTLY ADDRESS THIS, AND THIS IS WHY THE CLIENT HAS REQUESTED A HOME WITH AN UNDERSTORY. UH, THAT BEING SAID, HERE ARE SOME DIAGRAMS SHOWING COMPLIANCE WITH UNIT SIZE, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH LOT COVERAGE. UM, ALL THE, THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE UNDERSTORY EDGES AND UNDERSTORY OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS THE FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS WITH THE PERCENTAGES OF THE OPEN SPACE ARE BEING ACCOUNTED FOR. AND WE DO HAVE A ROOF DECK, UH, THAT IS ALSO COMPLIANT WITH CODE. WE ARE ACCESSING IT THROUGH A LATERAL STAIR, UM, STAIRCASE. AND, UH, THE IDEA IS TO BE ABLE TO OVERLOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL BAY VIEWS. UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURES OTHER THAN JUST THE, THE ROOF DECK AND THE NECESSARY, UH, GLAZING FOR FALL PROTECTION. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FLOOR PLANS. WE HAVE A VERY OPEN UNDERSTORY LEVEL IS ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INSIDE, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. AND WE HAVE A CENTRAL, UH, MODULATION, UH, SORRY, CIRCULATION AREA. THE, THE ACTUAL ENCLOSED GARAGE HAS BEEN FURTHER SETBACK, LIKE I WOULD SAY, AN ADDITIONAL 20 FEET FROM THE 30 FEET SETBACK. SO IT'S REALLY PUSHED BACK. UM, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE SOME PARKING OUTSIDE OF IT AND INTERIOR PARKING AS WELL. AND TO HAVE A REALLY OPEN UNDERSTORY FLOOR PLAN WITH A POOL DECK, EVERYTHING INTEGRATED TO THE VIEW TO THE BAY. UH, IF YOU CONTINUE GOING UP, WE HAVE A VERY OPEN FLOOR PLAN, THE SOCIAL AREAS LOOKING TOWARDS THE BAY AND THE SECONDARY BEDROOMS TOWARDS THE STREET. ALSO THE MASTER LOOKING AT THE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS. AND THIS IS ALSO, UH, THE, THE ROOF DECK. UH, THIS IS THE, THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, 30 FEET SIX, UH, BUILDING HEIGHT FROM FREEBOARD, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT CODE. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, PALLET OF VERY LIGHT MATERIALS, AND WE'RE INTRODUCING WARMTH WITH, UH, WOOD COMPOSITE SOFFITS AND WOOD COMPOSITE LURES IN ORDER TO GIVE, UH, INTEREST AND DYNAMISM TO THE DESIGN. UH, THERE ARE MORE VIEWS OF THE ELEVATIONS, THE SECTIONS TO FURTHER DEPICT THE, THE CONDITIONS OF THE HEIGHT. AND WE DID SOME, ALSO SOME, UH, THOROUGH STUDIES OF THE YARDS. ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS, THIS, UH, PROJECT HAS IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE LEVEL OF THE UNDERSTORY RAISED FROM GRADE ABOUT A FOOT BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. AND THAT REALLY ADDRESSES OUR CONCERN WITH FLOOD, WHICH IS REALLY A CONCERN, UH, IN OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. THESE ARE AXONOMETRIC VIEWS THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE, UH, PRESENTING OPENINGS ON THE SIDE FACADES PER CODE REQUIREMENTS. AND TO FINALIZE SOME VIEWS. UH, WE MADE AN EFFORT TO SHOW DYNAMISM AND LIGHTNESS TOWARDS THE STREET, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE, UH, UH, A STRUCTURE THAT HAS A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN. WE DID STAGGERING OF THE VOLUMES TO HAVE THAT DYNAMISM. AND WE INCORPORATED [03:55:01] THE WARM MATERIALS TO PORTRAY WARMTH AND DYNAMISM TO THE STREET. THE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SECOND FLOOR HAS BEEN FURTHER SET BACK. THE, THE LOURES ON THE SECOND FLOOR ARE NOW AT FIVE FEET FURTHER BACK THAN THE 30 FEET. BUT THE ACTUAL LINE OF THE FACADE HAS BEEN EVEN FURTHER SET BACK FIVE OR EVEN 10 FEET. UH, IT VARIES. IT PRESENTS THAT, UH, VARIABLE FACADE IN THE BACK, VERY CLEAN, OPEN. WE WANT TO INCORPORATE LIGHT AND THE VIEWS TO THE DESIGN. WE HAVE A SCULPTURAL STAIRCASE, UH, ROUND STAIRCASE FROM THE UNDERSTORY GOING UP TO THE FIRST, UH, FLOOR BALCONY. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL VIEW OF THE BACK AND SOME MASSING RENDERING, SO YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE OPENINGS ON THE SIDES AND THE FACADES. AND IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, WE MADE AN EFFORT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING, UH, PALMS TREES IN THE SITE TO INCORPORATE, INCORPORATE THEM IN A VERY TROPICAL LANDSCAPE DESIGN. UM, WE WORKED WITH NATIVE SPECIES, UH, THAT MEET AND EXCEED THE, THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO REALLY BLEND IN AND COMPLEMENT THE ARCHITECTURE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK IF, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, THE CITY OR YOURSELVES, UM, THE HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE UNDERST STORIES OR THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT TO BE SURE. I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY. SORRY. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? UM, I SEE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. OKAY. CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION. SORRY. CONTINUE. OKAY. SO THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, RAISED WITH AN UNDERSTORY OR THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED SIMPLY WITHOUT THE UNDERSTORY TO BE A BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS ONE OR HIGHER, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? AND WHAT IS THEIR CURRENT HEIGHT? UM, I WILL SAY, 'CAUSE I WENT TO LOOK AT THIS, I DON'T THINK I'D EVER BEEN ON STILLWATER DRIVE AND I WENT TO LOOK. AND ALTHOUGH IN THE PRESENTATION THEY INCLUDED A NUMBER OF NEWER HOMES, THE VAST IT, THE VAST MAJORITY OF HOMES IN THIS AREA ARE LOW AND THEY'RE OLDER, AND OR IF THEY'RE NEW AND IT SHOWS IT IN THEIR RENDERINGS, THEY'RE STILL NOT AS TALL, NEARLY AS TALL AS THE 30 FEET THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. YEAH. THAT I BELIEVE IS THE SITUATION IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT I'M SAYING IN CONTRAST, IT'S A LOT LOWER. IT'S NOT LIKE ALTON ROAD WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF VARIATION. YEAH. IT'S ALL VERY LOW. WELL CLOSE TOGETHER, AREN'T THEY? WAY THEY'RE SUPER CLOSE TOGETHER AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE IS SIDEWALK. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TREES. IT'S JUST, IT, THE LOTS ARE VERY WELL, I MEAN, WE SAW IT BEFORE. THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A PICTURE. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SEE. THE HOMES ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF HOMES. AND I BELIEVE THE SITUATION THAT OUR CHAIR IS REFERRING TO EXIST THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CITY ON ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, BECAUSE NOT ALL RESIDENTS HAVE GONE FORWARD OR CAN GO FORWARD WITH RAISING THEIR HOMES IN WITH OR WITHOUT AN UNDERSTORY. SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? OKAY, GO AHEAD. MAY I, MAY I ALSO, SO I ACTUALLY PASSED BY RIGHT? UH, TODAY, . OKAY. I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU TOO, BECAUSE ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE PRESENTATION YEAH. IT ALSO SHOWS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. I WOULD RECOMMEND BRINGING THAT UP. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY AGREE. OKAY. SO IN HERE YOU WILL SEE THERE'S A FEW HOMES FROM THE HOMES THAT HAVE UNDERSTORY. I THINK IT'S 1 2, 1 1. STEEL WATER IS THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE AN UNDERSTORY. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND IT ALSO, WHAT WE, WHAT IT'S, UH, PORTRAYED HERE, IT'S THE CURRENT STATUS. THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL, UM, STRUCTURE. SO IT'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT GOES ABOVE THAT TOP OF THE BUILDING. AND IT'S MORE OR LESS LIKE EIGHT FEET, JUST SO THAT WE ARE AWARE OF. SO IT, THAT'S THE NUMBER SIX THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE. THERE'S A FEW HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, NOT JUST ON STEEL WATER, BUT ON THE BAY NEXT TO STEELWATER, ESPECIALLY, I THINK TODAY ONE CAME SIMILAR SITUATION, UNDERSTORY, SAME THREE HEIGHTS. I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WAS ON, AND IT HAD THE SAME CONDITION. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME STREET, BUT IT'S THE PARALLEL STREET. SO THERE'S A FEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON, AND ESPECIALLY, I, I BELIEVE BECAUSE IT WAS A CODE THAT CHANGED RECENTLY, I BELIEVE IT'S [04:00:01] SOMETHING THAT IT'S GONNA START, UH, SHOWING BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT. I I, IT'S A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, THAT IT'S THERE, UH, SORRY, IN THE, IN THE, UH, SCREEN YOU HAVE ABOVE, THERE'S ON THE TOP ROW OF HOMES, THERE SEEMS TO BE THE SECOND ONE, THE THIRD, THE SECOND ONE, AND THE LAST, THE FOURTH. ARE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE I HAVE UNDER, LIKE THE SECOND ONE HAS AN UNDERST STORY. MM-HMM. , I KNOW THE, THE, THE ONE SIXTH. THAT ONE HAS AN UNDERST STORY. THAT ONE HAS AN UNDERST STORY. AND, UH, I BE, MOST OF, I THINK THERE'S TWO OR THREE THAT HAVE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ABOVE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING JUST AT THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST, SECOND FLOOR AND THEN, UH, TERRACE THROUGHOUT THE, THE UPPER PART OF THE ROOF. RIGHT? I THINK THE SECOND ONE IS THE ONE WE LOOKED AT EARLIER TODAY. YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. AND IF I CAN ADD UP TO THAT, BECAUSE THE SECOND ONE, WE DEVELOPED IT IN OUR FIRM WITH, UM, A MORE RESTRICTIVE HEIGHT. SO THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE ARE GETTING ALL THE TIME FROM OUR CLIENTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH FLOOD AND WITH WATER MANAGEMENT, BUT WE WANT A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN, HIGH CEILINGS. SO HOW CAN WE ADDRESS SEA LEVEL RISE AND HOW CAN WE GET THESE HIGHER CEILINGS AND THIS BEAUTIFUL DESIGN? I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A CONTEXT AS WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S A CHANGE IN CITY, BUT THIS IS ALSO HAPPENING TO WHOEVER IS FACED WITH THE DECISION OF WHAT TO DO WITH OUR HOME. SO ALSO WE DON'T WANT TO, TO, UH, NOT PROVIDE THIS SOLUTION. IN THE CASE OF THE SECOND ONE, WE DID HAVE TO COMPROMISE THE LEVEL OF THE UNDERSTORY. WE HAD TO SET IT ALMOST AT THE NATURAL GREAT ELEVATION, WHICH TO ME, REALLY, IT, IT POSES A, A PROBLEM BECAUSE WHEN IT FLOODS, WE'RE THINKING OF THE FIRST HABITAT FLOOR. BUT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THE UNDERSTORY AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE AFFECTED IN THIS ONE? I, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO THE CODE BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF THE UNDERSTORY WITH A GRADUAL, UH, SLOPE. WE HAVE MORE SPACE TO DO A MORE EFFICIENT SEAL ENGINEERING PROJECT, TO DO SWES, TO DO THE CATCH BASINGS AND HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION TOWARDS THE STREET. BUT THEN WHAT ARE WE COMPROMISING AND WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO COMPROMISE? AND WHAT IS THE CLIENT WILLING TO COMPROMISE? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. WHAT ARE THE CEILING HEIGHTS IN THE FIRST AND SECOND? OKAY, SO IN THE HABITABLE FLOORS, WHAT ARE YOUR CEILING HEIGHTS? LET ME, UH, BRING THAT UP. I'LL ALSO SAY TOO, IF, IF THE CITY CODE IS ABOUT TO GO FROM 30 FEET TO 28 FEET FOR THESE DISTRICTS, THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY THINK THAT 28 FEET IS ENOUGH OR THEY WOULDN'T BE CHANGING IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK MAKING THIS DECISION BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF IS GETTING, AGAIN, PERCENT CONTEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THE 28 TO MAKE THE STRUCTURE 28 FEET AS OPPOSED TO 30 FEET STILL ALLOWS FOR PLENTY OF RESILIENCY PLANNING, BUT ALSO MAKES THE STRUCTURE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND REMEMBER BEFORE IT WAS 24. SO IT IS A DIFFERENCE, AND WE ARE COMPLETELY OPEN TO LOOKING AT IT AND STUDYING IT. EXACTLY. UH, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO ALSO BRING TO THE TABLE WHAT WE GET FROM THE DESIGN POINT AND ALSO FROM OUR CLIENTS AND, AND WHAT ALSO ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THESE NEW CODE THAT COMPARED TO THE OLD CODE, WHAT ARE THE UPSIDES AND DOWNSIDES? SO I THINK THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP THERE, LIKE A, A THIN LINE THAT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND ALSO THE RECOMMENDATION. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I ASKED? YES. WHAT ARE THE CEILING HEIGHTS ON THE FIRST, UH, SECOND AND THIRD HALF? YEAH. SO, SO RIGHT NOW THE UNDERSTORY, WE HAVE, UH, NINE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR. WE HAVE 10 FEET. AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR WE HAVE NINE AND A HALF. AND THAT IS ON THE MOST, UM, FAVORABLE SITUATIONS WHEN WE HAVE DOGS AND BEAMS. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE BATHROOMS AND THE CLOSET'S GONNA BE LOWER. THE OTHER ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ROGELIO IS TO THE CITY, WHERE DOES THE CITY, WHERE IS THE CITY ON THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE CODE FROM A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ALLOWED OF 31 FEET VERSUS 28 FEET? OR, IT'S, IT'S IN ZONING IN PROGRESS. IT WENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD LAST WEEK AS PART OF AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW FOR, FOR UNDERSTORY HOMES. UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART DOESN'T GET ZONING IN PROGRESS BECAUSE THAT'S LESS RESTRICTIVE, BUT THE, THE PART OF 28 FEET IS MORE RESTRICTIVE. SO THAT'S CURRENTLY IN ZONING IN PROGRESS, THEY PUT AN APPLICABILITY CLAUSE. ANYONE THAT HAD ALREADY FILED A AN APPLICATION PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE PLANNING BOARD CAN KEEP THEIR APPLICATION WITH THE HEIGHT GOING AS HIGH AS 31 FEET. SO, [04:05:01] SO THAT REGULATION TECHNICALLY DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS GONNA BE RECOMMENDING FOR, FOR ALL APPLICATIONS MOVING FORWARD THAT ARE IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT. SO RS ONE, TWO, AND THREE TEND TO BE LARGER LOTS. AND SO WE DON'T SEE THESE ISSUES WITH COMPATIBILITY AS MUCH BECAUSE THERE ARE LARGER SETBACKS. THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE ROOM, RIGHT. UM, THAN YOU, THAN YOU SEE IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICTS. DO WE INCUR A LEGAL ISSUE IF WE AS A BOARD REQUEST THAT IT NOT GO TO THE MAXIMUM, BUT THAT IT GO TO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY CODE, WHICH IS 31, BUT THAT WE GO TO THE ZONING AND PROGRESS THAT'S OCCURRING NOW OF 28 FEET? I, I THINK THE HEIGHT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD THE ABILITY TO, TO REQUIRE A LOWER HEIGHT. SO, UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU DO, BUT YEAH, I AGREE. YEP. THANK YOU. YEP. SCOTT, WERE YOU GONNA ASK? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE NOT TINY ORIGINAL ONES THAT WERE BUILT MAYBE IN THE EIGHTIES OR NINETIES LOOK GIGANTIC AND BULKY COMPARED TO THE NEWER ONES. SO I JUST, I GET IT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT HAVE A BEAUTY OF CONSISTENCY TO IT ANYWAY, LIKE YOU SAID. SO I KIND OF THINK THAT IT'S NOT AS APPLICABLE AS FAR AS RUINING THE AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY HODGEPODGE WITH WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ALL CONSISTENT AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, AND SOME OF THIS REALLY BAD ARCHITECTURE THAT WAS TRUE IN IT , SORRY. IT JUST WAS, IT WAS REALLY, CAN I ADD TO THIS? UM, I, I AGREE, UH, WITH STAFF'S SORT OF RECOMMENDATION TO SAY, LET'S COME UP WITH AN APPROACH. OBVIOUSLY I AGREE WITH THE UNDERSTORY APPROACH FOR OUR COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND IF WE AS A GROUP DECIDE TO SORT OF LIMIT THE HEIGHT, I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT WE PROVIDE SPECIFIC INFORMATION. LIKE I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM LOWER THE SITE. LIKE, YES, THAT'S A GOOD STRATEGY. CAN WE HAVE EIGHT FEET CLEAR, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTORY AND NOT NINE, YOU HAVE 11 FOOT FIRST FLOOR. LIKE EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD TAKE TWO FEET AWAY FROM THERE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE SPACE OF THE STRUCTURE. SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WOULD COME DOWN MAYBE TO PEEL A FOOT AWAY FROM THE CLEAR HEIGHT ON THE UNDERSTORY AND FROM THE FIRST FLOOR AND JUST ASK IT TO BE REDUCED BY TWO FEET. YEAH. AND THERE MAY BE A COMPROMISE YOU CAN PROVIDE, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS STILL IS ZONING IN PROGRESS. SO IT REQUIRES COMMISSION APPROVAL, CORRECT, ROGELIO? CORRECT. IT WILL, IT WILL ULTIMATELY, WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO SAY. IN FACT, THEY MAY SAY, NO, WE WANT YOU TO LEAVE IT AT 31. OR THEY MAY SAY, WE WANT IT LOWER THAN 28 FOR ALL WE KNOW. I, YOU KNOW, SO MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, WE, WE ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE. IF THE CODE ALLOWS IT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION OF SOME LOTS BEING SMALLER THAN OTHERS WHERE THE IMPACT IS GREATER ON THE HI WITH THE HEIGHT. BUT, UM, I ALSO, WHAT SCOTT IS SAYING IS WE HAVE A VARIETY OF HEIGHTS AND STYLES AND, AND HOMES ON THAT STREET. AND AS WE GO FORWARD 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IT'LL PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE HOMES THAT HA THAT ARE RENOVATED AND, AND BROUGHT UP. IT'S MY CONCERN. UM, CAN YOU BRING UP, THANK YOU. CAN YOU BRING UP, UH, PAGE 31 IN THE PRESENTATION? UH, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT, OH, GO BACK. IT'S A 31 OR 31 PAGE 31. GO BACK PAGE ONE, I THINK. GO BACK TWO. IT'S JUST A, A FRONT, THAT FRONT, FRONT SIDE. THAT ONE. YEAH. FRONT SIDE. SO, 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE HEIGHT, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE DESIGN. RIGHT. AND I WOULD SAY, UM, FOR ME, THEY'RE VERY INTERRELATED. UM, IN GENERAL, I LIKE THE DESIGN. I LIKE THAT YOU'VE DESIGNED ON ALL FOUR SIDES AS OPPOSED TO JUST TWO, UM, TO ALWAYS APPRECIATE, I LIKE THIS DESIGN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS DESIGN DOES IS IT'S VERY, VERY VERTICAL. YOU HAVE ALONG THE LEFT SIDE, THESE TWO DOUBLE HEIGHT COLUMNS THAT ARE ARGUABLY, THOSE COLUMNS THEMSELVES ARE PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THE HOME NEXT DOOR. AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS NOT ONLY ARE WE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, BUT WHAT'S COMPOUNDING THIS EFFECT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING YOU MORE HEIGHT, BUT WHAT'S COMPOUNDING THE EFFECT IS THE DESIGN AND THAT THE DESIGN REALLY EMPHASIZES THE TALL AND THE VERTICALS. AND I THINK THAT A DESIGN LIKE THIS COULD WORK ON OTHER PARTS OF MIAMI BEACH. I MEAN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD SEEM A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR SAY, THE VENETIAN ISLANDS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE [04:10:01] THE LOTS ARE LONGER, LARGER. BUT I JUST THINK, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, IN THE CONTEXT, WHICH IS SO MUCH OF OUR PURVIEW, THAT THIS, THE DESIGN ITSELF IS, UM, TOO MUCH AND NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND I WONDER IF THERE'S OTHER DESIGN CHOICES THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT WOULD, I JUST FEEL LIKE FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS IN THE PAST, LIKE THIS HOUSE IS REALLY GONNA STAND OUT AMONGST ITS NEIGHBORS IN A WAY THAT IT SHOULDN'T. AND I, I, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE COULD BE SOME DESIGN MODIFICATIONS MADE SO THAT EVEN IF IT, IT IS GONNA BE TALLER, AND AGAIN, THAT'S FINE. IT'S GOOD FOR RESILIENCE. WE ALL WANT HOMES TO BE TALLER, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME CHOICES THAT CAN BE MADE ALONG THE WAY TOO. AND, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO WHEN REVIEWING THESE UNDERSTORY HOMES IS, IS MAKING SURE THAT YES, IT HAS THE RESILIENCE, BUT ALSO IT STILL WORKS. UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE BUMPS AND THINGS AREN'T GONNA BE AS SMOOTH IN TRANSITION. BUT THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT IN GENERAL. OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF LIKE SHAUNA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR IF YOU LIKE THE DESIGN IN GENERAL, IT REALLY EMPHASIZES CAN YOU BETTER? NO, THANK YOU. GIMME I WAS, I I DON'T THINK WE SEE A SI LIKE I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE OF A SIDE FOR THOSE COLUMNS. LIKE I, I DO THINK THE FRONT IS NICE, THE WAY THE THEY OFF THE BOX IS SORT OF OFFSET, BUT WE DON'T, IS THAT, THAT'S THE REAR. OKAY. OH, OKAY. SO THAT'S FRONT COLUMNS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. MM-HMM. , UM, I MEAN, I DIDN'T, I APPRECIATED THE ARTICULATION OF THE, THE DESIGN AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE STRAIGHT WALL AND YOU GUYS MEET BOTH THE INTENT AND, UM, THE DESIGN. THOSE ONE COLUMNS FEEL A LIT A LITTLE BIT OUT OF SCALE COMPARED TO THE OTHER VERTICAL ELEMENTS. MM-HMM. , I CAN AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. I THINK IT'S THE, THAT'S THE WORD. YEAH. LIKE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SCALE. OKAY. THE, THE, THE SIDE COLUMNS. WELL, OKAY. THE, I MEAN, IT AFFECTS THE DESIGN IN GENERAL, BUT SHAUNA, WERE YOU GONNA CONTINUE? NO, THAT WAS ALL I WAS GONNA SAY. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT'S ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO IT, AT LEAST TO ME, BECAUSE I, I REALLY LIKE THE VERTICALITY OF IT. I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY REFRESHING. BUT WHAT'S TO ME IS WHAT'S WEIGHING IT DOWN. MAYBE THE GARAGE DOOR, IT'S MAYBE IF YOU MAKE THAT MORE OPEN OKAY. AND THEN IT MAYBE THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLOATING MORE AND IT WOULD CONTRIBUTE LESS TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IS THAT GARAGE DOOR SETBACK? YES. IT'S VERY SETBACK. IT HAS A, THE GARAGE IS SET BACK, LIKE I WOULD, SORRY, I WOULD TAKE LIKE AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET FROM THE 30 NO, OR ACTUALLY 20 FEET FROM THE 30, UH, FEET SETBACK. SO I WOULD SAY LIKE 50 FEET MORE OR LESS, OR 45 OR 50 FEET FROM THE FRONT OF A PROPERTY LINE. WHAT IT IS BE, I THINK ALSO TO PIGGYBACK INTO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MAYBE IT'S, IT'S SO SOLID THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IT'S CREATING THIS PEDESTAL EFFECT, WHICH I THINK IS, AGAIN, MAKING IT TALLER. THE WHOLE STRUCTURE JUST SEEMS SO MUCH, MAYBE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH A GARAGE DOOR DESIGN. MAY I ASK IF, IF WE'RE OPEN TO REDUCING THOSE COLUMNS AND HAVE IT CAN DELIVERED, SO, SO THAT YOU STILL HAVE THIS STACKABLE EFFECT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE VERTICALITY. SO WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH STRUCTURAL IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND IF WE CAN LEAVE MORE OR LESS THE SAME, UH, IDEA OF HAVING TWO STACKED VOLUMES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A PILLER, BUT IT'S AS TALL AS THE UNDERSTORY PLUS THE, THE FIRST STORY SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ON WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE AIR FLOW THROUGH THAT AREA. I LIKED THAT CANTILEVER EFFECT AND, AND THOUGHT IT PREVENTED THAT WALL EFFECT LIKE YOU SEE WITH THESE OTHER BULKY HOUSES THERE. I REALLY DID. I JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S A SCALE ISSUE. IT JUST, I, I, I, I, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE, I LIKE THIS DESIGN. OKAY. BUT I DON'T LIKE THIS DESIGN FOR THIS LOCATION. OKAY. AND IT'S, IT, IT IS, I I THINK IT'S, IT'S, YEAH, YOU HAVE IT, IT DOES GIVE A NICE SOLUTION TO SIDE AND DOES OPEN IT UP AND IT'S BREEZY. BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST QUITE A FEW DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS OVERALL EFFECT. OKAY. THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS VERY SOLID PEDESTAL ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN ALL, ALL OF YOUR, I MEAN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A FRAME AROUND THE VOLUMES. OKAY. BUT EVERYTHING IS VERY, VERY VERTICAL ENHANCING THE VERTICALITY. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A LOW HOME NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I, I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE PLAYING WITH THESE VOLUMES, BUT TO PLAY WITH LARGE, SOLID VOLUMES THAT ARE ALREADY VERY HIGH. YEAH. WE CAN, PERSONALLY, I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE [04:15:01] FUTURE OF A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS ON MIAMI BEACH AS TIME GOES BY. BUT I, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE, THE COLUMNS, I, THEY DON'T BOTHER ME. I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO, TO SATISFY OTHER CONCERNS WITH THE COLUMNS. BUT IF I WERE A NEIGHBOR, I'D RATHER BE A NEIGHBOR ON THE LEFT SIDE THAN ON THE RIGHT SIDE ONLY 'CAUSE IT CREATES MORE OPEN AREA WITHOUT HAVING A WALL COMING DOWN. SO I, I AGREE WITH SCOTT THAT IT, I LIKE THE SHIFTING AND THE, UH, CANTILEVERS. UM, I AGREE, UM, WITH MY PARTNER HERE THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING'S OFF WITH THAT GARAGE DOOR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE COLOR, THE TEXTURE, THE DESIGN OF IT. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT MIGHT READ MORE LIKE A TWO STORY HOME WITH AN UNDER STORY VERSUS THIS KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A THREE STORY HOME AND THAT MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEIGHT ISSUE OR AT LEAST THE APPEAR. BUT YOU DON'T, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THAT IT'S SET BACK ANOTHER 30 FEET FROM THE FRONT SETBACK. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT IT, CAN YOU SHOW THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE REAR? I MEAN, THAT HAS SUCH A DIFFERENT EFFECT. YES. SO MUCH LIGHTER. IT'S SO MUCH LIGHTER AND IT'S MUCH MORE HORIZONTAL AND IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT SORT OF, I THINK PROVES MY POINT TO GO FROM ONE TO THE OTHER WHERE AGAIN, LIKE THERE'S SOME INTERESTING DESIGN ELEMENTS AND I WOULD GO BACK, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM AS TALL. OKAY. AND, AND WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHERE THIS HAPPENS AGAIN. THIS IS A, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE ALL EXPLORING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MAKE A THREE STORY STRUCTURE LOOK LIKE A TWO STORY HOME? THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALL SO IT, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF FINESSE. ABSOLUTELY. SO IN YOUR UNDERSTORY, YOU HAVE A NINE FOOT HEIGHT. MM-HMM. . AND, AND YOU'RE REQUESTING A HEIGHT OF, UM, 30, 30.6, UH, 30 FEET, SIX INCHES. UM, WE'RE GONNA GO FROM 31 IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES AND THE REST OF THE PROCESS GOES FORWARD OKAY. TO 28 FEET. OKAY. IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADJUST THE HEIGHT OF THAT UNDERSTORY? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE ADJUSTING THE HEIGHT OF THE FIRST AND SECOND HABITABLE FLOOR, THEY'RE CURRENTLY, YOU'RE SAYING 10 FEET AND NINE AND A HALF FEET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT SOMEONE WANTS. OKAY. AT LEAST WHAT I WOULD WANT IN MY OKAY. ROOM HEIGHT CEILINGS ISN'T THE FIRST FLOOR 11 FEET THOUGH. I THINK THE FIRST FLOOR IS ACTUALLY 11 FEET CLEAR. IT HAS, IT HAS, UH, IT HAS A LOWER CEILING OVER THE, THE KITCHEN, BUT IT'S REALLY 11 FEET. IT, IT'S, UH, IN SOME AREAS WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO 11 FEET. SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN WORK WITH A FOOT ON THE UNDERSTORY AND MAYBE WE CAN PLAY WITH SIX INCHES AND SIX INCHES ON THE TOP FLOORS AND WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, LOOK INTO LOWERING IT. AGAIN, IT GIVES US MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN THE PREVIOUS CODE. SO A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO IN TOTAL, YOU FEEL YOU CAN ADJUST IT ABSOLUTELY. WITHIN THE THREE LEVELS? YEAH. UM, BY ABOUT TWO FEET? YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? MM-HMM, . OKAY. WHICH WOULD BRING IT FROM 30 FEET, SIX INCHES TO 28, WHICH IS WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. OKAY. MM-HMM. , UM, 28.6. IS THAT OKAY. ROGELIO, WE HAD RECOMMENDED 28, BUT IT IS, YOU CAN SIX INCHES, YOU CAN APPROVE 28 6 IF THAT'S OKAY. YEP. UM, CAN, SORRY, I DIDN'T, YOU WERE JUST SAYING THAT THAT WASN'T A MOTION YET, RIGHT? OH, NO, I, I I WAS JUST ASKING IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I WOULD, SO I WANNA PAUSE IT AS A MOTION, BUT I THINK OKAY. YOU ALL ARE STILL DISCUSSING. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON THAT, THAT THE FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE IS PLUS 6.52. SO THE UNDERSTORY GROUND LEVEL IS PROPOSED AT PLUS 0.65. 6.65. SO I JUST WANNA SAY WHEN WE GET TO THE MAKING OF A MOTION POINT, I WOULD LIKE IT TO SAY THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT UNDERSTORY GROUND LEVEL AND THAT THE TWO FEET COME OUT OF THE CLEAR FROM ABOVE THAT. MM-HMM. . ABSOLUTELY. WHAT IS THE, UM, I, I THINK I, SORRY IF I MAY ADD, I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA GET REALLY TO THE 28 FEET, UH, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION, UM, WE ARE NOW A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE. WE MIGHT PROBABLY NEED TO PLACE IT AT FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE THAT IS STILL HIGHER THAN THE OTHER CASE. THAT WAS REALLY CONCERNING. RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GIVING YOU MAYBE 28 6 AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP YOUR FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE. THAT'S GREAT. PERFECT. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION FOR THE, IT'S JUST ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 'CAUSE WE SHOULD, IF I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN. OH, SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE ELEVATION OF THE UNDERSTORY AND THE ELEVATION OF THE STREET? YEAH, GIVE ME A SECOND. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW, UM, THE AVERAGE SIDEWALK ELEVATION IS 5.05 AND THE UNDERSTORY IS PLACED AT 6.98. [04:20:01] OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A ? YEAH, WE DO. YEAH. TO THE WATER. WE PUT IT JUST ABOVE FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE, WHICH IS 6.65. OKAY. UM, BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THIS, TO MY POINT, I WOULD SUPPORT, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE FRONT FACADE DOES NEED A LOT OF WORK TO ACHIEVE THE EFFECTS THAT WE WANNA AVOID. UM, I WOULD SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE 'CAUSE THERE DOES, I MEAN, TO REWORK FOR THE FACADE IS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE TASK. SO THAT WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS THE TIME TO FINESSE IT THROUGH TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I CAN'T REALLY MAKE A MOTION INCLUDING THAT BECAUSE I, I DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGES, SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE FEELS THAT WAY AND THEY WANNA MAKE A MOTION INCLUDING THOSE CHANGES, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S, FOR ME, IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH THAT IT COULD BE HANDLED BY STAFF. BUT I THINK IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT HAVE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THEY WANNA SEE, I, I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT I CAN IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COLUMNS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS DO. I I WAS JUST MORE OF THE GARAGE DOOR. SO I, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE HANDLED THROUGH STAFF, JUST, YOU KNOW, WORKING THROUGH SOME PERCY THERE. BUT, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU GUYS STRONGLY ABOUT THAT AS WELL, I'M FINE WITH THE COLUMNS. IT'S THE GARAGE DOOR THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S SET BACK, SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA TAKE A STAB AT A MOTION? THEY CAN INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS YEAH. OF HOW STAFF SHOULD WORK? SURE. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION. WELL, ABOUT THE HEIGHT. SO WE NEED TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT, UM, THE, THE TO 28.6, THE, UM, THE REDUCTION WILL COME FROM THE UPPER FLOORS, NOT FROM THE UNDERSTORY. UM, AND THEN ALSO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT YOU ALL WORK WITH STAFF OR THE FRONT FACADE GARAGE OR UNDERSTORY IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS WITH THE GARAGE OR WITH IT LIKE TO GIVE DIRECTION, UM, TO GIVE MORE PERME IN THE, IN THE UNDERSTORY. UM, SO IT LOOKS MORE LIKE AN UNDERSTORY, NOT LIKE A LEVEL TO THE HOUSE. I THINK THAT 28.6, UM, IS TO BE ACQUIRED THROUGH THE THREE LEVELS BECAUSE THEY MAY WANNA REDUCE A LITTLE BIT THE UNDERSTORY CEILING HEIGHT, UM, OF MAYBE IF JUST SAY I NOT TAKING FROM THAT, IF YOU CAN JUST SAY 28.6 AND LET THEM WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF. GETS EVERYBODY, I MAINTAIN THE, THE GROUND, GROUND LEVEL, GROUND LEVEL OF THUNDER STORY AND WORK IT OUT WITHIN THE, WITHIN YEAH. THE GROUND REMAINS AS PROPOSED, RIGHT? YES. SO THERE WAS THE GARAGE, THE 28 HEIGHT. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? 28 6 28 6 I YOU'RE LEAVING THE COLUMNS OR KEEPING THE I WAS GONNA LEAVE THE COLUMNS. WHAT I WAS GONNA LEAVE THE COLUMNS FOR MAYBE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO REDUCE THE OVERALL VERTICALITY. OKAY. OKAY. I MEAN, DOES THAT SEEM LIKE GOOD? DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE? JUST TO REDUCE THE , REVISIT, REVISIT THE COLUMNS WITH THE VERTICALITY WITH STAFF. OKAY. OKAY. PERFECT. THAT'S MY MOTION. REVISIT COLUMN COLUMNS SECOND. REVISIT COLUMNS TO, I MEAN, I WOULD HESITATE YOU COULD KEEP THE CO IT'S JUST THAT ALL OF THE ELEMENTS ON THE FRONT FACADE ARE VERTICAL AND IF YOU HAD SOME COLUMNS THAT WERE BEING OFFSET BY SOMETHING HORIZONTAL OKAY. WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S THE WORK WITH STAFF ABSOLUTELY. TO REDUCE TO, TO ADHERE SOMETHING MORE HORIZONTAL SO THAT WHEN YOU BREAK IT OUT, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR CONCERN AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS IT. SO YES, EH, I UNDERSTAND MAYBE FIRST WHEN WE LOWER THOSE TWO FEET AND MAYBE THOSE SQUARES COULD BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT SO THAT YOU HAVE A VERTICALITY AT THE FRONT THAT IT'S, UH, OUR HORIZONTALITY, SORRY, THAT IT'S THICKER, THEN YOU END UP HAVING MORE OF THAT VISUAL OF THAT HORIZONTAL LINE SO WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE ABSOLUTELY WILL WORK IT OUT. OKAY. I WANT YOU TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART. YEAH. NO, AND I WANNA BE ABLE TO GIVE ENOUGH LEEWAY IN THE, IN THE ORDER OKAY. IN THE MOTION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ABSOLUTELY. TO SUSS IT OUT AND FINISH ABSOLUTELY. BUT ALSO GIVE YOU DIRECTION. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO, SO WORK WITH STAFF TO REDUCE THE VERTICALITY OF THE DESIGN AND ADD HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS. MM-HMM. SOMETHING OR EVEN JUST REDUCE WHATEVER IT IS, JUST REDUCE THE VERTICALITY, REDUCE IT. I DON'T, I WANNA LET YOU GUYS FIGURE THAT OUT. PERFECT. AND IF I COLUMN, I HAVE THE THREE, THE THREE ISSUES. UM, AND I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN. I DON'T BELIEVE WE RECEIVED A SECOND. YEAH, YEAH, I DID DO A SECOND, BUT, OH, I APOLOGIZE. YOU KNOW, MY PROBLEM IS I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ALITY, BUT IF THEY WANT TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AND SEE IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH IT, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. YOU [04:25:01] KNOW, I, MY ISSUE IS MORE WITH A GARAGE, BUT I'LL SECOND IT FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, WE'RE NOW [13. DRB24-1048, 112 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY.] GONNA HEAR D RRB 24 104 8 1 1 12 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY. UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED, DESIGNED REVIEW APPROVAL ON AN ADVISORY BASIS FOR THE MECHANICAL REHABILITATION AND HARDENING OF THE WATER BOOSTER STATION ON PERMANENT ISLAND. THE HARDENING WORKS INCLUDES A STORM PROOFING AND WATERPROOFING STATION AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN OVERGROUND GENERATOR AND FENCE. OKAY. SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PUBLIC WORKS HERE. UM, AND IT'S ON AN ADVISORY BASIS. THE, THE REC, THE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT, UM, THE PROJECT INVOLVES THE INSTALLATION OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL IMPROVE THE RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY OF THE PUMP STATION ON OF THE WATER BOOSTER PUMP STATION ON TERMINAL ISLAND. UM, SO THIS IS A PUMP STATION THAT INVOLVES BOOSTING THE, THE PRESSURE OF POTABLE WATER. AND IT'S NOT A STORM WATER PUMP, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE TYPICALLY SEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD. UM, IT'S LOCATED ON TERMINAL ISLAND, UH, INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF A PERMANENT GENERATOR REPLACEMENT OF AN AIR HANDLER UNIT REPLACEMENT OF PERIMETER FENCING AND THE NEW ACCESS GATE AND DOOR FRAME IMPROVEMENTS. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT'S ALSO HAPPENING. UH, THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT WILL BE MOST VISIBLE IS THE NEW GENERATOR, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO THIS IS AN EXISTING STATION, UM, AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT WILL TAKE PLACE INSIDE THE BUILDING. UM, IT'S LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY, THE FISHER ISLAND FERRY AND GARAGE, UM, AND THE COAST GUARD STATION IN MIAMI. AND, AND ALSO THERE'S SOME SURFACE PARKING NEARBY. UM, SO THERE'S NO RESIDENCE, THERE'S NO CONDOS, THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL USES IN THE VICINITY THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS. UM, THE, THE FACILITY IS LINED FROM VIEW FROM THE MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY BY, BY LARGE TREES AND SHRUBS. UM, SO THIS WON'T IMPACT ANY PEDESTRIANS WALKING ALONG MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY. AND, AND THE VISIBILITY OF IT WILL BE MINIMAL. YOU, YOU MAY SEE SOME PORTIONS OF THE GENERATOR. IT IS VERY HIGH, BUT IT, IT'S JUST GONNA BE VERY MINIMAL. WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, THESE CHANGES ARE NECESSARY TO IMPROVE THE FUNCTIONING OF THE EXISTING WATER BOOSTER STATION, UM, AND ENSURE THAT IT'LL BE RESILIENT TO NATURAL EVENTS. SO THE GENERATORS INTENDED, IF THE POWER GOES OUT, ANYTHING HAPPENS, UM, THIS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO FUNCTION, UM, AND IT WILL OVERALL BENEFIT THE, UH, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY AND THE BEACH'S POTABLE WATER SYSTEM. SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE DRB DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL AND PROVIDE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND WE'LL TRANSMIT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS VIA LTC. SO, HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I THINK WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THE CONSULTANT IS ON, ON ONLINE. SO WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING, AS RO MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROJECT AND AGENDA AND SHOW YOU WHERE IS THIS THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PROJECT. SO, OH, UH, G MENDEZ HAND IS RAISED. I THINK YOU'RE, IS THAT THE CONSULTANT? YES, CORRECT. YEAH, CORRECT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. DO YOU NEED TO SWEAR IN? UH, HI. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. AND ONCE AGAIN, UH, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME'S GREG MENDEZ. I'M A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER IN THE MIAMI OFFICE LEADER FOR CHEN MOORE AND ASSOCIATES. UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY AS BRIEFLY AS I CAN, UM, THE TERMINAL ISLAND WATER BOOSTER PUMP STATION HARDENING PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON FOR, FOR QUITE A BIT NOW WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. NEXT SLIDE. CONTROL. I'M NOT SURE WHO'S ADVANCING THE SLIDES DO IT THERE. PERFECT. GO, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANKS GIANCARLO. SO THESE ARE JUST A FEW ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING OVER THE NEXT FEW MINUTES. I'LL, I'LL RUN YOU THROUGH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE STATION, WHERE IT'S AT, WHAT, WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE TODAY, UH, IDENTIFY SOME OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK, UM, WHICH I'LL CLEARLY IDENTIFY, UH, WHAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS GONNA BE FUNDED BY THE DEO GRANT AND WHICH PORTION IS BEING FUNDED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. UM, FINALLY WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PROPOSED EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT I'M SURE YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING. SO WE'LL RUN THROUGH, UH, THE PROPOSED GENERATOR IMPROVEMENT, THE NEW FENCING, THE NEW ROOF ACCESS LADDER, AND THE EXTERIOR DOORS. AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THAT UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE NEXT. SO, PROJECT LOCATION. UM, AS ROGELIO POINTED OUT A FEW MOMENTS AGO, THIS IS ON TERMINAL ISLAND, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY JUST OFF THE MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY. [04:30:01] IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR TOP RIGHT CORNER, THE INSET THERE, UH, WE'RE IN THE, UH, THE, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER OF TERMINAL ISLAND THAT'S BASICALLY ADJACENT TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE COAST GUARD BASE, UH, JUST OFF THE CAUSEWAY. NEXT. SO EXISTING CONDITIONS, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, OF WHAT THE STATION CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. AND JUST ROLLING AROUND, UH, I GUESS FROM TOP DEAD CENTER AROUND TO THE RIGHT, UH, IN NUMERICAL ORDER. UH, NUMBER ONE IS THAT DARK BLACK LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS OUR PROJECT LIMITS. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE, THE, THE LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THE CITY OWNS. NUMBER TWO IS JUST POINTING TO THE STATION ITSELF. SO THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT CONTAINS THESE BOOSTER PUMP STATIONS AND CONTROLS. NUMBER THREE IS AN EXISTING ROYAL PALM THAT UNFORTUNATELY WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED AS PART OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. I'M SORRY, NUMBER THREE. NUMBER FOUR, UH, IS ALSO POINTING THAT SAME LINE, BUT IT REALLY IS MEANT TO IDENTIFY THAT EXISTING SIX FOOT HIGH CHAIN LINK FENCE, WHICH IS IN BAD CONDITION IN, UH, IN MOST AREAS. AND THAT'S, UH, RUNNING ALONG THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THIS PROPERTY THAT'S INTENDED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED. NUMBER FIVE IS JUST THE LOCATION OF THE FPL TRANSFORMER. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A COUPLE OF PHOTOS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. NUMBER SIX IS THE STAIRCASE, WHICH IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THERE'S A, THERE'S A PLATFORM THERE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE SOME GOOD PICTURES OF HERE, UH, SHORTLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING A, UH, A GUARDED, UH, STAIRCASE THAT GETS US UP TO THE SECOND, UH, TO THE ROOFTOP RATHER, FOR MAINTENANCE AT THE PUMP STATION. NUMBER SEVEN IS JUST POINTING OUT THE LOCATION OF THE US COAST GUARD, UH, GUARDHOUSE. SO AS YOU ENTER THE BASE, THAT'S THE GUARDHOUSE THAT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE TO YOUR, IMMEDIATELY TO YOUR LEFT PRIOR TO CHECK-IN. NUMBER EIGHT IS AN AC UNIT ENCLOSURE THAT IS CURRENTLY FENCED IN WITH YOUR TYPICAL CITY OF MIAMI, UH, WHITE, UM, SIX FOOT TALL, UH, ALUMINUM FENCING, WHICH WE'RE GONNA MIMIC AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE MORE DETAILS ON THAT HERE IN, IN SHORT ORDER. AND THEN NUMBER NINE AND 10 IS REALLY JUST POINTING TO AN EXISTING STORE, UH, I'M SORRY, SANITARY SEWER, UH, PUMP STATION, WHICH IS IN EXISTENCE, UH, THAT IS ALSO OWNED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. WE KNOW THAT'S ON OUR PROPERTY AND WE'RE VERY, UH, CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE IMPACTED BY SOME OF THIS, THIS WORK. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE TODAY, UM, THIS, THIS IS A PHOTO OF, UH, OF THE PUMP STATION BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE IT THERE IN THE FOREGROUND WITH ALL THE GLAZING AND THE ANGLED FRONT. THIS IS FROM THE CAUSEWAY LOOKING SOUTHWEST. SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE TOP RIGHT, THERE'S A LITTLE INDICATOR OF A, A, UH, A VIEWPOINT, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT'S APPROXIMATE THE LOCATION THAT THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN FROM. SO THIS IS BASICALLY SITTING NORTHEAST OF THE BUILDING LOOKING BACK AT IT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THE COAST GUARD THERE IN THE, UH, I'M SORRY FOR SOME ISLAND IN THE, IN THE DISTANCE THERE OFF TO THE LEFT. SO THIS IS THE OPPOSITE CORNER. SO NOW THIS IS SITTING NEAR THE COAST GUARD, UH, CHECK-IN OR SECURITY, UM, BOOTH. YOU CAN SEE THE BOOTH THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. JUST CUT OFF IN THE PHOTO THERE. THIS IS WHAT THE STATION LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES PARKED THERE. SOME SHOULD BE THERE AND SOME SHOULD NOT. MOST OF THOSE TRUCKS IN THE BACK ARE PUBLIC WORKS AND OPERATIONS BUILDINGS. SOME OF THESE OTHER VEHICLES IN THE FRONT SHOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE PARKED THERE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HOPING TO TACKLE, UH, WITH, WITH THIS, UH, WITH THESE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS BEHIND THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, ON THE RIGHT SIDE ON THE INSET, THIS IS, UH, NOW MOVING OFF THE CAUSEWAY CLEARLY ONTO THE PROPERTY ITSELF. SO THIS IS, UH, JUST LOOKING, UH, TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST, I'M SORRY, TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST OR SOUTH SOUTHWEST, UH, FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S THE FPL GENERATOR THERE, UH, IN GREEN THAT I POINTED OUT OR MADE, UH, REFERENCE TO EARLIER. NEXT, NEXT. AND THIS IS STANDING IN THE SAME LOCATION, BUT ANGLING A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS THE RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE FOREGROUND THAT THAT TALL, UH, ROYAL PALM, WHICH WILL BE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH WHERE THE PROPOSED GENERATOR, UH, WILL SIT. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING THIS PHOTO RIGHT FROM WHERE THE GENERATOR'S GONNA BE SITTING NEXT. SO I MENTIONED EARLIER A, UH, AN EXISTING PLATFORM AND SOME DOORS. SO THERE'S A FEW IMPROVEMENTS HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT HERE IN CLOSE, UH, IN, IN, UH, IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THAT IS THE SECOND LEVEL PLATFORM WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE ATTACHING A ROOF LADDER FROM THAT PLATFORM BETWEEN THE DOOR AND THE EDGE OF THAT RAILING. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE. PHOTO MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT, BUT THERE IS, UH, TO GET UP TO THE ROOFTOP WITH A SECURE LADDER. AND THEN OF COURSE, PART OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS IS GONNA ALSO GONNA INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF THOSE TWO, UH, STEEL DOORS ON THE SECOND. AND THE FIRST FLOOR, IT'S A DOUBLE DOOR ON THE BOTTOM AND A SINGLE DOOR AT THE TOP. THOSE FRAME AND DOORS ARE IN TERRIBLE CONDITION. THEY'VE BEEN ERODED, THEY'RE RUSTED AND FALLING APART. SO PART OF OUR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS IS GONNA BE REPLACING THOSE. OKAY, SO SITE CONSTRAINTS, UH, PART, CLEARLY PART OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AS ROGELIO INDICATED, UH, DOES INCLUDE SOME UNDERGROUND COMPONENTS AS WELL. SO, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIVITIES WE UNDERTOOK WAS TO REALLY IDENTIFY, UH, THE MISHMASH AND MAZE OF UTILITIES AND OTHER URS, UH, THAT EXIST ON THE SITE. UH, BUT WELL EITHER ACCURATE OR BELOW GRADE FOR THAT MATTER. UH, SO THIS, UH, IDENTIFIES A LOT OF THE FPL DUCT BANKS THAT, UH, MEANDER THROUGHOUT THE SITE. THE LOCATION OF ALL OF OUR UNDERGROUND, UH, WATER MAINS AND FORCE MAINS, THE EXTENT OF THE SANITARY SEWER PUMP STATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, WE NEED TO BE, WE NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF IN ORDER TO DESIGN THESE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. UM, IT ALSO, UH, REALLY PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN DICTATING WHERE THIS GENERATOR COULD OR COULD NOT BE PLACED. UM, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. [04:35:01] SO, UH, HERE'S THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE FULL SCOPE OF WORK. EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING UNDER THIS PROJECT. THE DEO FUNDED, UH, GRANT FUNDED ITEMS ARE, UH, DENOTED IN RED AND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH FUNDED ITEMS ARE DENOTED IN BLUE. SO JUST GOING AROUND THESE REAL QUICK IF I MAY. UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE A, CAN I, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? SORRY, I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE A HARD STOP IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ALL OF US. DO YOU HAVE IMAGES OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? ABSOLUTELY. SURE. WE CAN SKIP THAT ON, MAYBE SKIP TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR CONCERN NOT A PROBLEM AT CONCERNS ARE NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. I WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE THOROUGH. WE CAN CERTAINLY TRUNCATE IT, SO NO PROBLEM. UM, SO I MENTIONED THE GENERATOR WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY TO AVOID A LOT OF THOSE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT WE WOULD NEVER HAVE ACCESS TO ONCE IT'S GENERATOR'S IN PLACE. SO REALLY THE ONLY LOCATION THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE IS IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER THAT YOU SEE THERE, DENOTED BY NUMBER TWO. THE, THIS EXAMPLE OF PHOTO THAT WE JUST PUT UP IS, UH, OF A CATERPILLAR GENERATOR. OF COURSE, THERE THE CONTRACTOR WOULD NOT BE, UH, RELEGATED TO SIMPLY CHOOSING A CATERPILLAR, WHICH TENDS TO BE YELLOW IN COLOR. NEXT SLIDE. THEY COULD ALSO GO WITH SOMETHING LIKE A GENERAC, WHICH IS ALMOND IN COLOR. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MANY OF THESE, UH, AT A LOT OF THE STORM WATER PUMP STATIONS AROUND THE CITY. I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THESE NEXT, UH, GENERATOR ON SLAB. UH, SO THIS IS, UH, NOT, NOT A RENDERING, BUT IT'S MEANT TO INDICATE WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THIS, UH, OF THIS, UH, GENERATOR IS GOING TO BE. ESSENTIALLY. UM, THE TOP OF THE EL, THE TOP OF THE GENERATOR IS GONNA BE AT ELEVATION 22, ALMOST 23 FEET, NGVD. SO THAT'S PLUS 23. THE EXISTING GROUND IN THAT AREA, JUST FOR REFERENCE, IS ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF TO EIGHT. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 15 FOOT, ROUGHLY 15 FOOT TALL GENERATOR. THE BUILDING ITSELF IS, UH, AT ITS HIGH POINT IS ABOUT 28 AND A HALF FEET TALL, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT, FROM THAT SAME CAUSEWAY PHOTO I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, OF WHAT THAT GENERATOR WOULD LOOK LIKE IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING, IN THAT SAME LOCATION AT THAT HEIGHT. NEXT, THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE, THAT, UH, FENCE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PERIMETER, AGAIN, TO CONTROL ACCESS TO IT, BUT ALSO IMPROVE THE AESTHETIC A LITTLE BIT. IN THIS PHOTO, YOU CAN ALSO SEE OFF TO THE LEFT SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, SHRUBBERY OR SOME SCREENING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING BETWEEN THE PUMP STATION AND THE SIDEWALK, UH, THAT EXISTS NORTH SOUTH, THERE NEAR THAT SIGN. UH, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN SIGN OFF TO THE LEFT AND THEN OFF THE DISTANCE YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR LADDER THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THIS RENDERING AS WELL. NEXT, IT'S JUST A STANDARD DETAIL OF WHAT YOUR MIAMI BEACH FENCE LOOKS LIKE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS IS GONNA BE EIGHT FEET TALL FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, AND IT'S THE, IN LIEU OF THE STANDARD SIX FEET. NEXT, JUST A CLOSE UP OF WHAT THIS ROOF MOUNTED, UH, OR WALL MOUNTED ROOF ACCESS LADDER'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WITH ITS SECURITY CAGE. NEXT, MORE OF THE SAME. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THESE DOORS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE. NOTHING FANCY. THESE ARE, THEY'RE BASICALLY MEANT TO REPLACE, UH, THE DOORS. THESE ARE STORM PROOF DOORS, I'M SORRY, WINDPROOF DOORS. THEY ARE NOT STORM PROOF DOORS. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT NECESSARY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR. NEXT SLIDE. WE'RE ALSO GOING, I'M SORRY, NEXT SLIDE AGAIN. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE INSTALLING, UM, THESE FLOOD PROOFING PANELS ON THE FIRST FLOOR TO FURTHER, UH, MAKE THE BUILDING MORE RESILIENT AGAINST RESILIENT AGAINST, UH, STORM SURGE AND THE LIKE. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT, PRETTY BASIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER? MY PLEASURE. IS THERE ANYBODY, THE PUBLIC? NO, NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? IT'S JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING ESSENTIALLY IS PUTTING THE GENERATOR, UH, UH, IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SIDE? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT SHOWS WHAT, WHERE THE GENERAL WILL BE LOCATED? I THINK IT GOES BETWEEN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE CAUSEWAY AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BUFFER IT. MY UNDERSTANDING, YEAH, THAT ONE WITH PLANT MATERIAL. YEAH. IS THAT, OH WAIT, GO BACK. YEAH, LET ME GET THE LOCATION. OH, IT'S RIGHT THERE. NUMBER TWO. SO NO, NO, NO. I THINK WE WANTED TO SEE THE, THE IMAGE. YES, THAT ONE THERE. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. SO YEAH, SO ALL OF THAT SHRUBBERY AND THE, THOSE TREES ARE EXISTING TODAY. THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID NOTHING MORE THAN INSTALL A GENERATOR WHERE IT'S PROPOSED. AND SO YOU'RE PROPOSING, AND, AND AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT THIS CORRECT, THAT THAT GENERATOR, THAT'S THE ONLY LOCATION THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT GENERATOR. IT'S REALLY THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT CAN GO SADLY, WITHOUT IMPACTING OR SITTING OVER THE TOP OF EXISTING FACILITIES THAT SHOULD A BREAK EVER OCCUR OR SHOULD WE EVER HAVE TO REPLACE IT OR GET UNDER THERE, WE NEVER COULD AFTER THIS GENERATOR'S IN PLACE. AND YOU WILL BE DOING PERMIT, I'M SORRY, YOU WILL BE DOING SHRUBBERY OR PLANT MATERIAL AROUND IT SO THAT IT'S NOT AS, YOU DON'T SEE THE WHITE OR BEIGE BOX OR YOU DON'T SEE THE GENERATOR FROM EITHER, UH, THE CAUSEWAY OR THE, UM, A BRIDGE GOING INTO, UM, THE COAST GUARD AREA. NO. [04:40:01] SO CURRENTLY THERE, THERE IS NO VEGETATION OR SCREENING PROPOSED AT THIS TIME IN THE PROJECT. AND THEN YOU SHOWED US THE YELLOW ONE. WAS THAT ALSO IT COULD BE BEIGE OR YELLOW? WAS THAT DEPENDS ON THE BRAND. OH, DEPENDING ON THE ONE THAT YOU GET, IT CAN, YEAH, JUST, JUST DEPENDS ON THE BRAND AND OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO PAINT IT AND DO SOMETHING SIMPLE, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE, UH, A LITTLE EASIER TO MAINTAIN. UM, BUT YEAH, THE, WE'RE ALSO CONSTRAINED ON SPACE. SO IF YOU, IF YOU ZOOM IN ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T ZOOM IN ON A SLIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE, THE AERIAL VIEW, ONCE THAT GENERATOR'S IN PLACE WITH ITS SLAB AND THE PLATFORMS WITH THE ACCESS STAIRS TO GET IT TO EITHER SIDE OF IT, THERE REALLY DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH ROOM BETWEEN THAT AND THE FENCE, JUST A COUPLE OF FEET. I, AS ONE MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, I, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION YOU'RE FACED WITH. I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO WHAT IS BEING DONE. I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT THERE BE LANDSCAPING TO CAMOUFLAGE THE BUILDING OR THE GENERATOR, I'M SORRY, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM, UM, MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY AT LEAST. OKAY. WE, WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WE ARE PUTTING, WE'RE ADDING AS, AS WHAT WAS MENTIONED, WE'RE ADDING A LANDSCAPING TO THE SIDES OF THE NEXT TO THE NEW FENCE AND THERE'S ALREADY LANDSCAPING, BUT WE COULD LOOK IN SOMETHING THAT WILL GROW AND, AND, AND, AND EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COVER AND WE'LL HIDE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A SHAME THAT, THAT HAS TO BE LOCATED IN THE ONE SPOT. THAT COVERS UP A PRETTY NICE UTILITY BUILDING THAT COVERS UP SOME, YOU KNOW, UTILITARIAN THINGS. BUT I, YEAH, I CAN SEE WHY IT WOULD NEED TO BE, I, I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF SCREENING. OKAY. WELL, SHAUNA , I MEAN, UH, AGAIN, I, I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR CITY TRANSFORMS THESE TYPES OF, UM, WELL, AND OUR POPULATION INCREASES AND OUR DENSITY INCREASES, THESE TYPES OF SYSTEMS ARE ONLY GOING TO GET BIGGER AND, AND, UM, MORE POPULATED THROUGHOUT OUR URBANISM. AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE HAVING A STRATEGY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE APPROACH WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS IS A BETTER WAY TO COME AT THIS. LIKE, THIS IS A 15 FOOT TALL, YOU KNOW, ENCLOSED SYSTEM THAT YES, THEN YOU NEED ACCESS TO, IT'S GONNA HAVE MAINTENANCE. AND IT'S AT THE SCALE OF A BUILDING. IT'S NOT LIKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT. SO, AND THERE'S NO IMAGE FROM THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT THIS HAPPENS TO BE A GLASS FACADE RIGHT THERE. SO I'M JUST SAYING, TO ME, IT'S SO MUCH, I KNOW COST IS A FACTOR. I KNOW TIME'S A FACTOR, BUT AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO HAVE ACCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGH OUR CITY, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS. OR IF WE SAY, WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S THIS TYPE OF CHANGE, IT ACTUALLY BECOMES AN EXTENSION TO THE ARCHITECTURE. IT HAS AN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE, AND IT'S INHABITABLE. AND, AND THAT'S THE APPROACH VERSUS TRYING TO PRETEND THAT WE CAN JUST ADD THIS LITTLE THING NEXT TO IT. 'CAUSE IT'S VERY BIG. IT'S, IT'S VERY BIG. YEAH. AND I, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT LIKE, LIKE WE DO, LIKE THIS CITY IS SO GREAT AT, WITH WATER, LIVING WITH WATER, NOT TRYING TO PRETEND WE DON'T HAVE WATER AROUND US, AND THIS IS VERY MUCH PART OF THAT WATER SYSTEM. SO HOW DO WE EMBRACE THESE INFRASTRUCTURES? THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SCREEN WHERE IT SHOWS THE FIRST ONE YOU HAD ON THAT ONE? UH, NO, NO, NO. UM, WHICH ONE WAS THE ORIGINAL? YEAH. UH, NO, THAT'S IT. NO, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ONE WITHOUT THE GENERATOR IN FRONT OF IT, WHEN MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY, UM, ON THAT BRIDGE, AND I, IT'S NOT REFLECTED HERE. YOU REALLY DON'T SEE WHAT'S GOING ON INTO THE, AND THAT'S THE PART OF THE ISLAND OF TERMINAL ISLAND THAT WE CALLED COAST GUARD, UH, VERSUS THE FRONT PART IS WHERE SANITATION AND FLEET MANAGEMENT ARE HOUSED. AND YOU REALLY DON'T, EITHER YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT 'CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING INTO SOUTH BEACH OR WHAT HAVE YOU. OR, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE RAMPING OF THE BRIDGE GOING INTO THE OVERPASS AND GOING INTO, UM, FIFTH STREET IS HIGHER. UM, SO YOU DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU. UM, BUT MAYBE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, UM, HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH TO SCREEN OR GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, AS SHAUNA IS SAYING TO GENERATORS AND PUMP STATIONS THAT ARE IN VISIBILITY OF THE PUBLIC. YEAH. WHAT'S A SHAME IS CLEARLY THE OTHER BUILDING THAT'S THERE WENT THROUGH A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN PROCESS, AND HERE WE ARE, PLOTING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF IT THAT'S JUST GONNA BLOCK IT. SO I THINK IT SPEAKS TO BOTH OF YOUR POINTS THAT THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT. AND SHE'S RIGHT. THIS IS TURNING THESE, THESE LOOK LIKE THOSE PORTA-POTTIES THAT THEY PUT AT BIG EVENTS WITH STAIRS UP TO A TRAILER, BASICALLY, AND OTHER UGLY THINGS. I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY UGLY AND, AND THIS, THIS ISLAND IS DIFFERENT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CLEARLY A INDUSTRIAL AREA FOR US, BUT GOING THROUGH THE CITY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY UGLY. AND THERE, THERE [04:45:01] NEEDS TO BE A BETTER SOLUTION HOLISTICALLY THAN JUST PLOPPING 'EM IN AND PUTTING TREES IN FRONT OF WELL, AND ROGELIO, I KNOW BEFORE WE'D MENTIONED AND YOU SAID, OH, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION. I MEAN, COULD THAT, YOU KNOW, I I, I MEAN, EVEN TO HAVE SOMEBODY WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF MANAGING ALL THE WA LIKE EVERYTHING, ALL THE STUFF, BUT THEIR ENGINEERS, NOT DESIGNERS, IT'S NOT THEIR FORTE. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NEVER DEAL WITH PLUMBING. I WOULD NEVER, I HAVE NO, I BARELY KNOW WHAT A GENERATOR IS. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT ME DOING THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS AND YEAH. IT'S ONLY GONNA GET BIGGER. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION. WELL, AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING A LONG HISTORY HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO WE SAW A GREAT, UM, THOROUGH PRESENTATION FROM BROOKE SCARPA, YOU KNOW, THAT ISN'T LOOKING AT RESILIENCY, BUT WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SORT OF URBAN LANGUAGE, UH, IN PARTS OF THE, THE CITY THAT IT'S TRANSFORMING. AND SO, I'M SURE I KNOW THE CITY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS PROBABLY SEVERAL YEARS AGO NOW, MAYBE 2016. IT'S 'CAUSE IN 18 IT STARTED BEING IMPLEMENTED. BUT IS THERE A LANGUAGE BACK? LIKE, CAN WE RETURN TO THAT FRAMEWORK FOR ADVICE THAT THIS MOMENT, OR IF IT WASN'T THAT COMPREHENSIVE OR ANTICIPATE THESE APPLICATIONS, THEN CAN WE REVISIT THAT SORT OF PROCESS TO EXPAND THAT FRAMEWORK? SO THERE'S A LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT? THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION. I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO, YEAH. AND TO, TO USE US AS A RESOURCE FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW TO, TO THE COMMISSIONERS. UM, THIS IS, ARE WE MAKING A MOTION ON THIS? OR IT WAS JUST OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY? IT'S, IT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY, BUT WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION OUTLINING EXACTLY WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE, AND THEN WE'LL DRAFT TO LTC THAT HAS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL TRANSMIT TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. SO JUST SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION, I CAN TRY TO MAKE A MOTION SAYING WHAT I THINK WE HEARD. SO YOU WANT THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION SEPARATE? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? OR AS PART OF THIS? AS PART OF A MOTION. OKAY. YEP. SO I THINK WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE, UM, CONDITION THAT THERE'D BE MORE, AS MUCH LANDSCAPING ADDED AS POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, AT, AT APPROPRIATE SCALES TO HELP, I GUESS BUFFER THIS. BUT, UM, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT SORT OF INHIBITS AIRFLOW AND DOESN'T REALLY GO WITH WHAT NEEDS, BUT ANYWAYS, THE LANDSCAPING AND THEN TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, SORT OF REVISIT THE FRAMEWORK THAT ESTABLISHED THESE, UM, PROJECTS, THESE CITYWIDE PROJECTS AND, AND SAY, IS THERE A LANGUAGE, AN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE AND URBAN LANGUAGE WITHIN THOSE FRAMEWORKS THAT WE CAN RETURN TO? AND IF IT'S NOT THERE, THEN CAN WE REVISIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT FRAMEWORK? OKAY. MAYBE, OH, AS THE START, THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FOR MOVING FORWARD AND DOING THIS PROJECT. IT'S BEEN LONG OVERDUE AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE AS AN ISLAND TO NOT HAVE SEPTIC TANKS, BUT TO HAVE SEWER LINES AND TO HAVE THE WATER PRESSURE THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MEET OUR INSURANCE CRITERIA THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS HAVE, UM, IN OUR PREMIUMS. SO, UH, A THANK YOU ANYWAYS, FOR ALL OF THIS. MM-HMM? . YES. DOES ANYBODY CAN SECOND? I CAN SECOND THAT. SECOND. SECOND. OH, SORRY. OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, MS. MEYER, SECOND BY MS. ALI. UH, I THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. UM, THE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE NEED TO STOP AT TWO 30. WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES. DO WE SORT OF READ IT IN OR HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED? I THINK WE CAN READ IT IN, MAYBE IF WE GO A FEW MINUTES OVER, WE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BUT HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. NEXT. OUR FINAL OKAY, GO FOR IT. ARE THEY HERE, ARE THEY ONLINE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU GUYS HERE FOR THREE 10? YEAH, SORRY. IF YOU CAN PLEASE BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU PRESENT. I'LL TRY TO BE CONCISE, RUN TO THE PODIUM. . [14. DRB24-1051, 310 S COCONUT LANE.] THIS IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. D RRB 24 10 51 3 10 SOUTH CO LANE. AND THIS APPLICATION IS REQUESTING THIS. I REVIEW APPROVAL FOR A TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. OKAY. SO THIS IS A TWO STORY RESIDENCE ON A REGULARLY SHAPED, UH, WATERFRONT LOT ON HIBISCUS ISLAND TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. UM, IT IS AN UNDERSTORY HOME. UM, THE, UH, HEIGHT OF THE, I'M JUST GONNA BE BE BRIEF. THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME IS PROPOSED AT 28 FEET, SIX INCHES. CONSISTENT WITH [04:50:01] OUR OTHER RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE HEIGHT BE REDUCED TO 28 FEET, SO THAT WOULD BE A SIX INCH REDUCTION. UM, THE UNDERSTORY AREA CONTAINS, UM, CONCRETE PAVERS, LANDSCAPING, AND A POND. UH, THE POND IS PROPOSED AS PROPOSED ENCROACHES INTO THE UNDERSTORY EDGE ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE YARD, AND CONNECTS TO A LARGE POOL IN THE REAR YARD OVERLOOKING BISCAYNE BAY. UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT, THAT THAT POND BE MOVED IN FIVE FEET FROM THE NORTHERN EXTERIOR SIDE, UM, UNDERNEATH THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR ABOVE. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE AN UNDERSTORY EDGE OF FIVE FEET, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO CONSIST OF OPEN SPACE PRIMARILY, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF DRAINAGE. UM, THE, THE HOME IS DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE, UM, AND IS DISTINGUISHED BY A HALF CYLINDRICAL VOLUME IN THE FRONT ELEVATION THAT IS CLAD WITH LIMESTONE. UM, AND ACCENTED WITH LANDSCAPING STAFF DOES HAVE SOME SLIGHT CONCERNS WITH THE OPENING OPENINGS. UM, AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THOSE OPENINGS BE INCREASED IN SIZE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE MASSING OF THAT VOLUME ON THE, ON THE FRONT, UM, FRONT ELEVATION. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THE, UH, OF THE REQUIRED OPEN, UH, SPACE ON ELEVATION. TWO-STORY ELEVATIONS EXCEEDING 60 FEET. UM, IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH CON UH, CONFORMING WITH THE INTENT. THEY DO PROVIDE THE OPEN SPACE, HOWEVER, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN DOES HAVE A BEAM ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH WOULD, UH, PREVENT THEM FROM, FROM ESSENTIALLY COMPLYING WITH THAT REQUIREMENT. UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE REQUESTED WAIVER BECAUSE THAT, THAT BEAM DOES ADD TO THE, UH, TO THE ARCHITECTURAL, UH, DESIGN, UM, AND STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. UM, SO WITH THE CHANGE THAT THE POND B MOVED IN FIVE FEET, THAT THE HEIGHT BE REDUCED BY SIX INCHES, UM, AND THAT THE OPENINGS ON THAT FRONT ELEVATION BE, BE, UH, INCREASED IN SIZE A LITTLE BIT. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON, JOSE SANCHEZ PRINCIPLE WITH PRAXIS ARCHITECTURE. UH, TODAY WE HAVE, UH, ON ZOOM ALSO THE OWNER AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. THE OWNER WANTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, BUT GIVEN THE TIME LIMITATIONS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SKIP THAT. UM, GOING RIGHT INTO IT, I, I, IF YOU WANT, WE CAN JUST CONTINUE IT AND THEN THERE COULD BE MORE TIME FOR HIM TO SPEAK IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE. WELL, IF, IF WE, IF HE COULD SPEAK AND IF NECESSARY WE, WE CONTINUE THEN THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST. OKAY. OKAY, GO FOR IT. SO, UH, MR. UH, PIERRE DAINI, THE OWNER, WE HAVE, UH, HE'S ONLINE. UH, PIERRE DINI? YES. IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE. ALRIGHT. IF WE CAN UNMUTE HIM. HI PIERRE. CAN YOU HEAR US? YES. UH, I, UM, I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU PROCEED. UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THERE'S A TIME CONSTRAINT, HOWEVER, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS. NUMBER ONE, I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY 31 YEARS AGO, 31 YEARS. I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. AND I ALWAYS BOUGHT IT WITH THE INTENT THAT TO BUILD MY HOUSE DREAM. AND NOW I AM IN MY SIXTIES AND, AND APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I'M IN FRONT OF THE GBPR FOR YOU TO, UH, TO, TO, TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PERMIT. THE INTENT, UH, AND WHAT, THAT'S WHY WE HIRED THE OFFICE OF, UH, UH, OF MR. SANCHEZ AND PRAXIS ARCHITECTURE WAS REALLY, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO MAKE A GREAT, GREAT PIECE, A GREAT PROPERTY FOR, FOR MY FAMILY TO USE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ASK ANYTHING EXTRAVAGANT. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE THE DESIGN PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT'S RESPECTED. I HAD ASKED THE ARCHITECT TO ADD SOME ELEVATOR BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WITH TIME, I CANNOT WALK AS WELL AS I USED TO, UH, AND WALK UP THE STAIRS. APART FROM THAT, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I WAS, FOR A LONG TIME THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OF PALM HIBISCUS AND STYLE. AND, AND I'VE SEEN HOW BY CARING ABOUT, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE AND WHAT'S BEING BUILT ON THOSE ISLANDS AND AROUND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, WE'RE MAKING A BEAUTIFUL CITY. SO I, I AM HONORED AND I HOPE, UH, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MY, UH, SMALL CONTRIBUTION AND WITH A PLACE FOR MY FAMILY TO, UH, TO, TO, TO, TO LEAVE. UH, I WAS GOING TO SAY HAPPY EVERY DAY AFTER. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT LASTS, BUT AT LEAST TO, TO TO MOVE FORWARD. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. AND, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS, THE PRE MILLION OCCURRENCE, THE ARCHITECT IS GOING TO COMMENT ALSO, UH, UH, BUT, UH, WE'VE, OF COURSE WE WILL TAKE, UH, WE WILL DO WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MAKE THIS BEAUTIFUL PROJECT HAPPEN. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. [04:55:01] THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. IF WE COULD PLEASE GO TO THE PRESENTATION IS THERE THE, THE FIRST IMAGE, THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET, AND, UM, THERE ARE, UM, THREE FACTORS THAT BASICALLY DROVE THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE. ONE IS THE FACT THAT IT'S A VERY NARROW LOAD, RELATIVELY NARROW, 55 FEET ON THE FRONT, AND WE'RE DOING AN UNDERSTORY HOME. SO IT, IT WAS GONNA BE OBVIOUSLY VERY VERTICAL, SO WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE VOLUMES TO CREATE A CERTAIN PROFILE. SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE THREE STORY HOUSE. WE, WE HEARD IN A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, UM, THE, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE EXPRESSION OF THE FULL THREE STORY HOUSE. HERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE HOUSE. IT'S, UH, TWO STORES ONLY IN THE CENTER. IT'S, UH, A PROJECTS TWO. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FULL THREE STORIES. IT WAS PART OF IT TO CREATE THAT, UH, PROFILE, UH, THE, UH, VISION FROM THE OWNER TO CREATE A HOUSE WITH A, A VERY UNIQUE CHARACTER. UM, UH, SO IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPRESSIONISTIC, YOU KNOW, DRIVING AROUND THE HOUSE. WE COULD SEE SOME OF THE, UH, MORE SO IT'S THE CONTEMPORARY HOUSES, AND SOME ARE, UH, A LITTLE BIT ON THE BOXES SIDE. AND THE CLIENT WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO, UH, THAT'S IN, IN PART WHY IT'S VERY UNIQUE. AND ALSO IT'S LOCATION. IT'S AT THE VERY WEST END OF HIBISCUS WITH, UM, A FANTASTIC VIEW OF DOWN OF DOWNTOWN MIAMI AND THE ARENA. IT'S BASICALLY, UH, THE, THE VIEW THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE IN MINOR ONE OF VIEWS OF, OF MIAMI, OF THE, THE OPEN BAY OF BISCAYNE DOWN IN DOWNTOWN. SO WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO CREATE, UM, UM, A VERY UNIQUE ENTRANCE THAT IT SETS THE STAGE FOR, FOR THAT SPECTACULAR VIEW. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE, THE FRAME ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE, UH, CIRCULAR STAIR THAT GOES AROUND THE, THE CIRCULAR VOLUME. SO THAT'S THE, UM, MAIN VIEW FROM THE FRONT. AND HERE'S THE LO LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF, UM, HIBISCUS ISLAND. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE, UM, NOT AT EYE LEVEL, BUT FURTHER UP. SO YOU CAN SEE THE ARTICULATION AND THE ENTRANCE AND AN, AN ENTRY COURTYARD THAT IT'S, UM, THAT IT'S THE, THE, THE FIRST SPACE THAT, THAT YOU SEE AND, AND CONTINUE INTO THE FOYER, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MATERIAL PALLET. IT'S, UM, WILL, UH, LIMESTONE THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, CUT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN BANDS. BUT MOSTLY, UH, VERTICAL PATTERN TO ADDRESS THE, THE CURVE. UH, THEN, UH, WHITE, UH, STOCK OF FRAMES, UH, WITH, UM, THE, THE INSET IS JUST, UH, IN A DARKER COLOR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT FRAME. UM, BRONZE, UH, COLOR, UH, GLAZING, UM, DARK, UH, OR WARM COLOR PAINT. AND SOME, UH, LURES IN ALSO EVERYTHING IN THE, IN THE DARKER COLOR INSIDE THE WHITE FRAMES. AND MOVING ON. THIS IS THE, THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, IT'S SIMPLER, UH, AS WE CANNOT OBSTRUCT THE, THE, THE VIEWS. BUT IT DOES HAVE, UM, UM, CURVE WALL THAT, UH, RELATES TO THE FRONT. AND IT'S, UH, ON THE, ON THE NORTH OR LEFT SIDE. AND IT JUST, UH, IT'S, UH, CONTINUES FROM FIRST TO SECOND FLOOR AND THEY PULL, UM, UH, IT'S, UH, UH, HITS THE, THE WALL. IT JUST ENDS AT THE WALL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING THE, THE WAIVER FOR THE, UH, WATER AND, AND THE FIVE FEET SETBACK FROM THE EDGE OF THE UPPER LEVEL, BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE ARCHITECTURE. AND WE WOULD, WE WILL BE WILLING TO PROVIDE MORE SETBACKS ON OTHER SITES, SEVEN FEET OR EIGHT FEET IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO TO, UH, TO GET CLOSER, UH, TO, TO THAT, TO THE WALL THERE, AND PASS THE SETBACK, UM, BY A COUPLE OF FEET. AND THESE ARE THE, UH, SIDE VIEWS WITH THE, UM, COURTYARDS, UM, ENTRY COURTYARD ON THE NORTH ELEVATION, AND THEN A REQUIRED COURTYARD ON THE SOUTH FOR ALSO FOR LIGHT AND VENTILATION. THESE ARE, UH, VIEWS CLOSER INTO THE, INTO THE ENTRY COURTYARD SPACE. AND THE, THE POOL, WHEN THE CURVE WALL THAT I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE, THE, THE WALL, THE, I MEAN THE, THE, THE WATER HITS THE, UH, THE, THE CURVE WALL. YOU KNOW, IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S SEEN FROM THAT, UH, LEVEL, BUT WE CAN SEE IT IN THE FLOOR PLAN. UH, THE, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION, EM MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. UH, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR PLANS WITH THE, UM, GARAGE. WE LOCATED THE DRIVEWAY, UH, A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE CENTER SINCE THE FRONT, WHICH IS VERY NARROW, SO [05:00:01] WE CAN HAVE MORE LANDSCAPING ON BOTH SIDES. AND IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE, UH, DRIVEWAY RIGHT NEXT TO A SMALL YARD. AND IN THE REAR IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH OPEN. AND, UM, THE, IT'S ACTUALLY A, UM, A, A POND THAT EXTENDS, UM, INTO THE ENTRY COURTYARD AND ABOUT THE CURVED WALL THAT'S ON THE TOP, UH, LEFT THERE, THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN WITH, UH, TWO, UM, ROOMS, UH, SMALL OFFICE AND A GUEST BEDROOM. AND, AND THEY OPEN TO A PRIVATE TERRACE. AND THEN THE REAR IS PRETTY MUCH THE TYPICAL COMMON AREAS, UM, OF A HOUSE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS, AS YOU COME UP, YEAH, THE, THE STONE GOES INSIDE THE HOUSE AND IT, IT CONTINUES, UH, THROUGH THE CURVE, UH, UH, STAIR INTO THE FOYER. AND FROM THERE IT OPENS UP TO THE OPEN PLAN OF THE HOUSE, SECOND FLOOR WITH THREE BEDROOMS IN THE REAR AND ONE IN THE FRONT TYPICAL CONDITION. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE LESS VOLUME IN THE FRONT TO ADDRESS THE MASSING AND, AND, AND THE SCALE AND THE UPPER LEVEL WITH ACCESS THROUGH A SPIRAL STAIR THAT'S, UH, COMPLETELY COVERED. SO YOU ONLY SEE A CYLINDER, UH, SOME OF THESE, UM, SEMICIRCULAR GEOMETRY IS REPEATED IN, IN DIFFERENT PLACES. ARE THE TECHNICAL DRAWINGS HARD TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF, THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT PLANES THERE, SIDE ELEVATION WITH THE COURTYARDS AND THE SHADING MAY HELP, UH, TO VISUALIZE SOMETHING. AND THIS IS THE SOUTH SIDE WITH A, A LARGE GLAZE AREA WHERE THE, THE STAIR IS LOCATED. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THE CENTER. AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SPIRALS THERE, ACCESS TO THE ROOF FROM, UH, FROM A BALCONY OR TERRACE REAR ELEVATION SECTIONS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY, UH, FOR ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? I SEE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AUDIENCE. OH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY ABOUT THE PREVIOUS TOPIC, SO I'M NOT SURE I SHOULD WAIT OR TRY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. MAYBE YOU HAVE TO WAIT. UM, UM, SO HOW SHOULD WE, OKAY, I HAVE 2 33. HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED? I, I, I FEEL LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, ESPECIALLY, 'CAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, ARE THEY GONNA, UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, DO YOU, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO TURN AROUND THE, IS IT OKAY IF WE CONTINUE A FEW MORE MINUTES OR FOR THE THREE O'CLOCK START TIME? YEAH, WE HAVE A THREE O'CLOCK START TIME, SO, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO, UH, WRAP THIS ONE UP, UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO I, I APOLOGIZE. I WISH WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO IT TODAY, BUT IT WILL, UM, I'M SURE THAT NEXT TIME YOU'LL GET A LOT OF REALLY HELPFUL FEEDBACK. SO, UM, OKAY. IS THERE, SO IT'LL BE MOVED TO THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING. UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IS, IS, UH, IS THERE, DO WE HAVE ANY FIRST IMPRESSION FEEDBACK THAT WE WANNA PROVIDE? UM, OR, SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO WORK ON BETWEEN HERE AND DECEMBER 10TH OR THAT THAT DOESN'T WORK, I DON'T KNOW, YOU FEEL FREE IF YOU'D LIKE OKAY. TO DO THAT, JUST HAVE ONE, ONE COMMENT. I, I LIKE YOUR DESIGN VERY MUCH. I LIKE THAT IT'S NOT A BOX ON TOP OF A BOX . AND, UM, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU'RE PROPOSING A HEIGHT OF 28.6, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IS 31 FEET, BUT THIS IS ALSO ZONING IN PROGRESS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 28 FEET. SO, UM, THAT JUST MAY BE SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION TO SEE IF YOU COULD REDUCE SIX INCHES ACTUALLY TO GO TO 28. BE OF COURSE, LOOK AT THAT. MY QUESTION ON HEIGHT TOO IS THE ELEVATOR IS GOING TO THE ROOF COMPLETELY ABOVE THAT 28 6. I'M NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS WITH CODE. THAT'S AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTION. THE ELEVATOR? YEAH, IT JUST, THE, THE, THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS TO THE TOP OF THE SLAB. AND SO THIS, THIS IS ALLOWED TO EXCEED THE TOP OF THE SLAB. BUT THIS, IT'S NOT JUST AN ELEVATOR OVERRUN, IT'S SERVING THE ROOF. YEAH, THAT'S ALLOWED, IT CAN, IT CAN GO INTO THE, TO A ROOF DECK. YES. OKAY. SO THEN THAT, I GUESS, YEAH, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW. WELL THAT'S, SO IT'S 38 6 OVERALL, UM, WHEN YOU GO TO THE TOP OF THE ELEVATOR. YEAH, TALLER. AND THEN MY CONS, I ALSO, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY, THESE LOTS ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. I DID HAVE [05:05:01] A QUESTION IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND SHOW THEM, I KNOW AT LEAST LIKE IT SEEMED ALSO THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH HAD A LOT OF WINDOWS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING ONTO THIS. AND THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT I HAD OF THIS IS DEFINITELY GONNA IMPACT THEIR HOME, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE THE PROPERTIES ARE VERY TIGHTLY NESTLED. SO THAT WAS JUST A CONCERN. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT FOR NEXT TIME. YES, WE, WE HAVEN'T, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO, UH, HAVE HIGH WINDOWS OR PUT A, A LOUVER IN THE, IN THE STAIR, UM, GLA GGL GLAZING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE GLASS FOR ARTICULATION. BUT THEN THE, THE PRIVACY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT, UH, YES, I MEAN ON THOSE ELEVATIONS WE ARE, UH, MOST OF THE WINDOWS ARE, ARE PROVIDED BECAUSE OF THE ARTICULATION. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO, I MEAN, MY, MY COMMENT IS JUST, AND I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT TIME, JUST TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBOR AND, AND WORK WITH 'EM BECAUSE IT WAS VERY, IT'S, IT'S GONNA IMPACT THEM VERY MUCH. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS ON THE PROJECT. MY LAST OTHER, UH, REQUEST MIGHT BE, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SIDE VIEWS, LIKE IF YOU COULD HAVE MORE RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING AT AN ANGLE, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ THE ELEVATIONS. THEY ARE RENDERED BUT THEY'RE LIKE FLAT. SO LIKE I'D LIKE TO JUST UNDERSTAND THE BUILDING MORE THREE DIMENSIONALLY. OKAY. YEAH. ESPECIALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THE CORNER OF THE FRONT WHERE THE CURVE BECOMES A RIGHT ANGLE, JUST SEEING HOW THAT LOOKS IN A PERSPECTIVE VIEW, UM, ON THE FRONT YARD, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THE ANGLE, I MEAN. OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL PROVIDE SEVERAL. WE HAVE TIME TO SUBMIT, UH, ADDITIONAL, YOU CAN SUBMIT THOSE AS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. PRIOR TO THE MEETING. ALRIGHT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT CHANGING UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING THAT CHANGES THE DESIGN, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE IT TWO WEEKS PRIOR. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL VISUALIZATION. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE OR DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY? YES. UH, IT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. I SECOND. ALRIGHT. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. DID YOU HAVE A QUICK COMMENT BEFORE WE HAVE TO UH, YES. NO. SO FANTASTIC. YOU'D HAVE TO STEP INTO THE, PLEASE SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE. AND WE DO HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA KICK US OUT INSIDE. WELL CHAIR AND MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, OPENING THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. I'M A NEW RESIDENT TO MIAMI BEACH, SO I DO APPRECIATE BEING HERE TODAY. AND YOU KNOW, AS A WIND AND ORDER SPORTS ENTHUSIAST, I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND HOW ALL OF THIS IS GONNA WORK TOGETHER. SO, UM, OVER AND ABOVE THE AESTHETICS OF THE GENERATOR, MY QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE FUNCTIONALITY AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE GENERATOR AND WHAT WILL THAT DO? HOW MANY MEGAWATTS THESE TYPE OF CONSIDERATIONS. SO MAYBE IF THAT'S AN AGENDA ITEM WE COULD BRING UP IN THE NEXT MEETING, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE. I WONDER IF THE BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GONNA SAY. THE BEST THING COULD BE FOR YOU TO GET IN TOUCH WITH SOMEBODY AT PUBLIC WORKS. THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS, HE COULD SPECIFY ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'LL GET YOU HIS CONTACT INFORMATION. IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY IF THE POWER GOES OUT, THAT PUMP STATION CAN STILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION 'CAUSE IT HAS ITS OWN POWER BACKUP. UM, AS FAR AS THE MEGAWATTS OF POWER AND ALL THAT, THAT I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT. AND THAT GENERATOR IS BASICALLY FOR TWO PUMP STATIONS. ONE IS FOR THE SEWER AND THE OTHER ONE'S FOR THE WATER. OKAY. NO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE MORE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INPUTS AND THE OUTPUTS OF THAT, OF THOSE WATERS AND HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT WATER QUALITY. I'LL, I'LL GET YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION NOW OF PUBLIC WORKS SO YOU CAN, CAN THANK YOU ALL. AND THERE YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WELCOME TO MIAMI BEACH. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE [FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: December 10, 2024] ADJOURN, I DID WANNA, UM, BRING UP SOMETHING TO THE BOARD THAT, UM, NEXT MONTH ON A FIRST READING THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO HEAR A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE AWAY THE UNDERSTORY PURVIEW FROM THE DRB. SO IF ANYBODY, UM, HAS AN OPINION ABOUT THAT NOW, IT WOULD BE THE TIME TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO VOICE ANY CONCERNS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN DECEMBER. UM, ROGELIO WAS THERE, UM, THE COMMISSION MEMO FOR THE FIRST READING OF THE COMMISSION, UH, FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UM, CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT WHEN IT AS DEAL TO, IT'S ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE CAN LET YES. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.