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STAND BY.

WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 12TH MEETING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACHES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.

DEBBIE, WOULD

[ATTENDANCE]

YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF? UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

GOOD MORNING.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WELCOME TO THE, UH, NOVEMBER 12TH MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.

UM, THIS MORNING WE ARE EXPECTING, I BELIEVE, ONE MORE MEMBER, SO WE WILL HAVE SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.

UH, MR. MEYER IS ABSENT TODAY.

UM, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO NICK , UM, FOR SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THANK YOU DEBBIE.

AND GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER VIRTUALLY, EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN TODAY'S MEETING, THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF YOU'RE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.

IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION.

20 ITEM EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.

IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.

THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE TO BE MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE.

AND LASTLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU NICK.

UM, MR. CHAIR, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS

[1. October 8, 2024 meeting ]

MORNING IS THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 8TH, UH, MEETING MINUTES.

I MOVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON.

WE DO HAVE, I

[5. HPB24-0628, 900 Ocean Drive.]

WAS NOTIFIED EARLY THIS MORNING THAT WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE THIS MORNING.

UM, THIS IS ITEM HPB 24 0 6 2 8, WHICH IS 900 OCEAN DRIVE.

UH, AN APPLICATION WAS FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE EAST FACADE OF THE BUILDING, INCLUDING, UH, A VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.

UM, THE APPLICANT I WAS NOTIFIED, IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTREACH, UM, AND STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS.

I DO SEE, UH, MONICA ENTON, WHO IS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THE CALL.

UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

UM, I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION THAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP AND MAYBE THEY CAN ANSWER IT AHEAD OF TIME, IS I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, ORIGINAL MANGO SIGN GOING AWAY IF THIS IS STILL GONNA BE MANGOES.

I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE FIGURING OUT HOW TO KEEP THAT SIGN.

OKAY.

UM, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT, UM, BUT THAT GIVES THEM A CHANCE BY THE TIME THEY COME IN JANUARY .

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, MR. CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? YES.

YES.

UH, MONICA.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING STAFF.

THANK YOU.

MONICA ENTON ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND YES, WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY HEARING AND MR. BRESLIN, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO, UM, HAVE THOSE PLANS REVISED TO SHOW OUR SIGN WE ARE MANGOES AND WE WILL ALWAYS, UH, INTEND TO BE MANGOES.

SO, UH, RECOGNITION IS IMPORTANT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR REVISED PLANS BY THEN.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MONICA.

UM, WE WILL NEED PUBLIC COMMENT.

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ANYONE, UH, WISHING TO COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.

SEEING NONE, DO ANYBODY MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY.

SEE YOU IN JANUARY, MONICA.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE.

YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THE PACKAGE IF, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU.

THE, UH, FIRST REGULAR APPLICATION

[2. HPB24-0624 a.k.a. HPB18-0237 a.k.a. HPB17-0139, 2618 Collins Avenue.]

ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS HPB 24 6 2 4.

UM, THIS IS 26 18 COLLINS AVENUE.

AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY ISSUED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ONE STORY ROOFTOP.

ADDITION.

SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO ROOFTOP ADDITIONS, MODIFICATION TO PUBLIC INTERIOR SPACES, AND A NEW REAR POOL AND DECK PLAN AND VARIANCES FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.

THANK YOU, DEBBIE.

THIS APPLICATION, AS DEBBIE SAID, IS A MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT FROM 2018 THAT INCLUDED THE RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ONE STORY ROOFTOP.

ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE LOBBY, THE INTRODUCTION OF SEVERAL ROOFTOP ADDITIONS AND THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE POOL DECK WITHIN THE LOBBY.

A NEW INTERIOR DESIGN IS PROPOSED TO BE INTRODUCED, INCLUDING A STAIR ACCESSING THE SECOND LEVEL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEW DESIGN, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE POST-WAR MODERN ERA.

HOWEVER, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THE RESTORATION OF THE STONE CLAD WALL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOBBY CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.

THREE SMALL PARTIAL ONE STORY ROOFTOP ADDITIONS ARE PROPOSED TO BE INTRODUCED, ONE AT THE SECOND LEVEL AND TWO AT THE ROOF LEVEL.

ALL THE ADDITIONS ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE COLLINS AVENUE LINE OF SIGHT, BUT TWO ARE WITHIN THE INDIAN CREEK DRY LINE OF SITE.

THE BOARD MAY MODIFY THE LINE OF SIGHT REQUIREMENTS ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND STAFF FINDS THAT ALL OF THE CRITERIA HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.

FINALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RECONFIGURE THE POOL DECK AREA.

STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE NEW DESIGN, BUT WOULD NOTE THAT THE NEW POOL DECK REQUIRES VARIANCES.

THE FIRST VARIANCE IS A MODIFICATION OF YOUR PREVIOUSLY GRANTED VARIANCE.

TO LOCATE THE POOL DECK WITHIN THE INDIAN CREEK DRIVE FRONT YARD.

THE MODIFIED VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE BY 15 FEET, FIVE INCHES.

THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK FOR A POOL DECK OF 20 FEET IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A POOL DECK AT A SETBACK OF FOUR FEET, SEVEN INCHES FROM THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.

THE SECOND VARIANCE IS A NEW VARIANCE TO REDUCE BY FOUR FEET, SIX INCHES.

THE REQUIRED SIDE INTERIOR SETBACK FOR A POOL DECK OF SEVEN FEET, SIX INCHES IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A POOL DECK AT A SETBACK OF THREE FEET FROM THE SOUTH INTERIOR SIDE PROPERTY LINE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INTRODUCE THIS NEW SWIMMING POOL AND DECK WITHIN THE AREA OF THE EXISTING SWIMMING POOL.

THE NEW POOL COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIRED SETBACKS, BUT THE NEW DECK ENCROACHES INTO BOTH THE FRONT AND SIDE INTERIOR SETBACKS.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE RETENTION OF THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND THE UNIQUE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY WITH TWO FRONT YARDS CREATES PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES WARRANTING THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCES.

AND WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

OKAY, THANK YOU JAKE.

UM, BOARD MEMBERS, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IF NOT, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UM, IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

IN THE AUDIENCE.

MORNING, EVERYBODY.

GRAHAM, PENN BURKE, HOWELL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAPPEN, 200 SOUTH BISCAY BOULEVARD.

IF I COULD HAVE THE TEAM COME UP.

UH, AND, AND JUST TO JUMP UP IN CASE I FALTER, UH, WE'RE REPRESENTING TA MIAMI HOTEL, LLC, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.

THAT IS MR. JORGE BRAVO, RIGHT THERE.

WE'VE GOT JEFF GAIL FROM CLARO DEVELOPMENT.

YOU GUYS CAN SIT, YOU DON'T NEED TO STAND BEHIND ME.

I DON'T NEED THAT MUCH PROTECTION.

UH, SONG CHIA FROM FAB DESIGN ARCHITECT, UH, VINCENT, PHIL GENZE, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

SO AS YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH THE SLIDES BRIEFLY, BUT AS YOU'LL SEE, ALL THESE CHANGES ARE INTENDED TO REDUCE THE INTENSITY OF THE APPROVED PROJECT.

WE THINK IT, IT IS A, A SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED AND HIGHER END DEVELOPMENT WITH THESE REVISIONS.

SO GUYS, IF YOU COULD PUT THE SLIDES UP, I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH IT.

SO, SUBJECT PROPERTY.

WE ARE SANDWICHED IN TWO WAYS.

WE'RE SANDWICHED BETWEEN COLLINS AND INDIAN CREEK, WHICH HAS LED TO THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY THAT WE HAVE TWO FRONTS, WHICH NECESSITATES

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THE VARIANCES THAT JAKE LAID OUT.

WE'RE ALSO SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO 1990S CONDOS.

WE'VE GOT THE KAMAR CONDO TO OUR NORTH AND THE LAKE BEACH CLUB CONDO TO OUR SOUTH LAKE BEACH.

LAKE BEACH WAS BUILT IN 1991.

KMAR WAS BUILT IN 1997.

THEY'RE BOTH VERY SIMILAR IN THEIR LAYOUT.

THEY HAVE GROUND FLOOR PARKING AND THEY GOT FOUR RESIDENTIAL LEVELS ABOVE THEM.

I DID WANT TO, UH, SPEND A LITTLE TIME HERE BECAUSE YOU MAY, I'M SURE YOU ALL RECEIVED, THERE'S A PETITION, UM, SENT OUT BY THE KAMAR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION.

AND I KNOW THAT, UH, MS. ANO, I'M SURE I MISPRONOUNCED THAT NAME, UH, MONICA ANO IS HERE.

UM, WHO, YOU KNOW, SHE SENT OUT THE PETITION.

UM, AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THAT PETITION, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS IT BRIEFLY, RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT LOSS OF A VIEW, UM, NOISE AND DISRUPTION.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED THE COPY OF THAT PETITION, WE REACHED OUT BECAUSE WE SAW THERE WAS SOME, APPEARED TO BE SOME CONFUSION.

THIS, AS JAKE AND DEBBIE EXPLAINED, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED SINCE 2018.

SO THE, THE SINGLE STORY EDITION THAT WAS APPROVED IS BEING BUILT AND IS ONLY GETTING IMPROVED WITH THIS REVISION.

IT'S NOT A TWO STORY EDITION, IT'S NOT A NEW PROJECT.

SO, AND, AND AS YOU'LL SEE, I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH IT.

I THINK EVERY CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE TO THAT ROOF IS AN IMPROVEMENT THAT BENEFITS BOTH OUR NEIGHBORS.

TURNING BACK THE CLOCK, UH, BUILDING WAS, UH, ORIGINALLY BUILT IN, UH, LATE 1951, OPENED AS THE PRINCE MICHAEL, AS A HOTEL ARCHITECT, WAS ROY FRANCE.

IT IS THREE STORIES.

I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION IN THE PLANS.

UH, AND I THINK THIS MIGHT HAVE LED TO THE MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS TWO LEVEL, TWO FLOORS BEING ADDED.

THE FIRST FLOOR ON OUR PLANS IS SHOWN AS THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR, BUT IT IS REALLY A SINGLE STORY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS, THE REAR IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER.

THAT'S WHERE THE HOTEL ROOMS ARE THAN THE LOBBY.

SO IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING, WHICH HAS A ONE STORY ROOFTOP ADDITION ON IT.

THAT'S IT.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S THE EXISTING APPROVAL, SINGLE STORY, ROOFTOP ADDITION.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE WITH AN ACTIVE ROOF DECK AND A POOL, AND IT HAD UP TO 107 HOTEL ROOMS DEPENDING ON WHICH VERSION OF IT, UH, YOU HAD.

SO AS COMPARED TO 1 0 7, WHICH WAS THE LAST HEARING APPROVAL WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN 22 HOTEL ROOMS. IN THIS PROJECT, WE REMOVED ALL ACTIVE ROOF DECKS.

THAT SHOULD BE A PLURAL 'CAUSE THERE'S THREE OF THEM IN THE APPROVAL.

WE REMOVED ALL BASEMENT FLOOR AREA AND WE THINK WE'VE CREATED AN OVERALL UPGRADE IN THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.

SO STARTING AT THE GROUND LEVEL, I'M TALKING TO FOCUS ON THE POOL.

THIS IS THE APPROVED PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE POOL DOWN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, THAT, THAT WAS THE EXI, THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING POOL.

THE HISTORIC POOL, WHEN THEY BUILT THAT POOL ORIGINALLY, THEY PUSHED IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO IT BASICALLY, THE POOL ITSELF WAS AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO THERE WAS NO WAY TO HAVE ANY KIND OF ACCESS OUTTA THE POOL ON THE WHOLE SOUTHERN, UH, HALF OF IT, WHICH WE THINK IS A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERN.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS, UH, SQUEEZE THAT POOL TOGETHER, UH, STRETCH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND PUSH IT OFF THAT PROPERTY LINE.

SO NOW WE CAN PROPERLY SET THE POOL BACK, PROVIDE A DECK ALL THE WAY AROUND.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE BUFFERING OF, OF OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.

THIS THIS SHOWS YOU BASICALLY THE, THE PORT, THE VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018.

YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE POOL ITSELF IS IN THE PHI.

THIS IS THE VARIANCE AS PROPOSED TODAY.

BUT THAT IS ALL, THE POOL IS COMPLETELY OUT OF IT.

AND ALL WE HAVE IS THE DECKING ON THE, ON EITHER SIDE.

AND AS JAKE EXPLAINED, WE ARE SNAKE BIT BY THE FACT THAT INDIAN CREEK IS A FRONT AS WELL AS COLLINS.

SO WE HAVE TWO FRONT SETBACKS WHERE IN A, IN A NORMAL SITUATION THAT THAT WOULD BE ARREAR.

SO WE, WE AGREE WITH STAFF THAT THERE IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY CREATED HERE THAT JUSTIFIES THAT.

BUT IT ALSO IS AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD LANDSCAPING ON THAT ENTIRE SOUTHERN, UH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THERE WAS NONE HISTORICALLY.

SO NOW WE CAN HAVE A BUFFER, ALBEIT THREE FEET, BUT IT GIVES US A ROOM TO DO PLANTING THERE TO BUFFER OUR NEIGHBOR.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS WHAT VINCENT'S COME UP WITH.

ALL THAT PLANTING ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE, UH, IS BEING ADDED.

SO WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE REDESIGN POOL DECK TODAY.

SO TURNING TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, THIS IS THE APPROVED GROUND FLOOR PLAN.

THE LOBBY, YOU CAN SEE THE RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, AND THEN YOU HAD ROOMS BEHIND.

THE GENERAL LAYOUT REMAINS THE SAME.

WE'RE IMPROVING OBVI.

WE BELIEVE WE'RE IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE LOBBY.

UH, WE'RE ALSO ADDING, YOU CAN SEE THE PINK STAIRWELL THERE.

IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE COLORED PINK.

IT'S PINK 'CAUSE IT'S NEW.

BUT IT, IT GIVES US ACCESS TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH IS NOW WE'RE REPLACING HOTEL ROOMS WITH MEETING SPACE, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH, UH, A FIRST CLASS, UH, OPERATION.

A SMALL BOUTIQUE, FIRST CLASS HOTEL IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET

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HERE.

YOU ALSO SEE WE'RE ADDING, UH, BATHROOMS TO THE POOL.

SO HERE'S THE APPROVED SECOND FLOOR, A HUNDRED PERCENT HOTEL ROOMS. HERE'S THE PROPOSED SECOND FLOOR.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE, OF THE FLOOR, WE'VE REMOVED ALL THOSE HOTEL ROOMS AGAINST COLLINS.

AND THAT IS GONNA BE OPEN MEETING SPACE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE STAIRWELL FROM THE LOBBY.

SO AGAIN, IN LINE WITH A, WITH A HIGH END KIND OF BOUTIQUE EXPERIENCE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING HERE AND GET BUSINESS TRAVELERS INTO THIS BUILDING.

YOU CAN SEE THAT'S KIND OF THE THEME HERE.

WE'RE REMOVING THE QUOTE UNQUOTE PARTY ELEMENTS OF THE, OF THE HOTEL.

UH, THIS IS THE THIRD FLOOR, A HUNDRED PERCENT HOTEL ROOMS, NO REAL CHANGE THERE.

SO THIS IS THE ROOFTOP ADDITION.

I'M GONNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE ROOF.

THIS SHOWS YOU THE LOWER ROOF, WHICH IS THE THIRD FLOOR, AND THEN THE FOURTH FLOOR, KIND OF THAT, THAT SAWTOOTH IS THE NEW, UH, ADDITION.

THERE'S ACTIVE SPACE IN THE APPROVED PLAN ON BOTH THE EAST AND ON THE WEST.

THERE'S ACCESS BY STAIRS THAT GO UP TO THE ROOF OF THE ADDITION.

UM, WE HAVE REMOVED ALL THAT PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SPACE.

THERE'S NO MORE, UH, ACCESS TO THAT ROOF.

THE THIRD FLOOR ROOF AT ALL.

YOU, THE BROWN AREAS OF THE NEW, OF NEW ROOMS WE'RE PROPOSING.

THAT'S THE ADDITION THAT, UH, JAKE DISCUSSED BEING ADDED TO THAT.

THE ROOF WHERE IT'S JUST BASICALLY EXTENDING IT AROUND, IT'S TUCKED VERY FAR BACK.

YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE RENDERINGS.

THIS IS THE APPROVED ROOF PLAN, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE AGAIN ON, ON THE, ON THE ROOF OF THE ADDITION POOL, NEW POOL CABANAS, ACTIVE SPACE.

WE HAD A, UH, THERE WAS AN ELEVATOR THAT ACCESSED THAT SPACE AND THEN STAIRWELLS DOWN TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GATHER ON THE ROOF OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

ALL IS GONE.

THAT'S COMPLETELY REMOVED.

NO, NO ACCESS TO THE ROOF OF THE ADDITION AT ALL, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY MECHANICAL ACCESS.

BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A MUCH QUIETER, MORE, A BETTER NEIGHBOR WITH THIS CHANGE.

SO SUMMARY, NO OCCUPIED ROOF DECKS AND THE POOL HAS GONE FROM THE ROOF.

SO ELEVATIONS ONE POINT OUT, ONE THING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ELEVATIONS, THE TOP IS THE, IS THE APPROVAL.

THE BOTTOM IS THE PROPOSED.

WITH THESE CHANGES, OUR OVERALL HEIGHT GOES DOWN BY EIGHT FEET.

WE LOSE THE ELEVATOR THAT WAS NECESSARY TO ACCESS THAT ROOF DECK.

SO WE LOSE EIGHT FEET IN THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UM, BY THESE CHANGES.

SO AGAIN, NO, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE NEW ELEVATION STILL HONORS THE HISTORIC FACADE.

OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED, GUYS, THIS TIME.

IT WASN'T MY FAULT.

I DIDN'T TOUCH ANYTHING.

OKAY, THAT'S THE FRONT.

SO REAR FROM INDIA, WE CALL IT A REAR, BUT IT'S THE, THE SECOND FRONT FROM INDIAN CREEK.

YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE REMOVAL OF, UH, IF YOU LOOK ON THE TOP LEFT OF THE, OF THE APPROVED DRAWING, YOU CAN SEE THOSE CABANAS, ALL THAT ACTIVITY, THE STAIRWELL DOWN TO THE, TO THE THIRD FLOOR ROOF DECK, ALL THAT'S GONE AND THE REVISION.

NOW IT'S QUIET AND PEACEFUL THERE.

YOU ALSO NOTE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE NEW, UH, ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITION OF THOSE TWO HOTEL ROOMS TUCKED BACK IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING.

SOUTH ELEVATION, UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE FOCUSING AGAIN ON THE ROOF.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE CABANAS AND ALL THAT ACTIVITY ON BOTH THE TOP, TOP AND ON THE TWO LOWER ROOFS ALL GONE AND REMOVED.

AND YOU CAN BARELY, THERE'S BARELY ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL IN WITH THE ADDITION OF THOSE TWO ROOMS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

NORTH ELEVATION VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

TO THE NORTH, OBVIOUSLY TOPLIN IS THE APPROVED.

UH, AGAIN, I'M GONNA HARP ON THIS AGAIN.

ALL THE CABANAS THAT WERE AGAINST THAT WALL, UH, AGAINST THAT PROPERTY LINE PLUS ALL THE ACTIVITY THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ELEVATOR OVERRIDE THAT'S ALL GONE IN THE REVISION.

SO AGAIN, A MUCH MORE PLEASANT AND QUIET NEIGHBOR.

WE ARE MAKING, WE ARE PROPOSING MINOR REVISIONS TO THE WINDOWS.

WE'RE ING THEM A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTH FACADE TO REFLECT THE NEW ROOM LAYOUT.

BUT GENERALLY THAT FACADE REMAINS THE SAME.

THREE MORE MINUTES, IF I COULD, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DRAWING TO FOCUS ON.

UH, THIS IS OUR INSITU VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE LAKE BEACH TO THE LEFT, CAPTAIN MAR TO THE RIGHT AND THE NEW BUILDING AT THE MILL.

WE ARE NOW AT OR BELOW THE HEIGHT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WITH THIS REVISION.

AND AGAIN, NONE OF THAT ACTIVITY THAT WAS RIGHT UP AGAINST KMAR IS GONNA OCCUR ANYMORE WITH THIS REVISION.

SO WE THINK AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE OVERALL DESIGN, A BETTER NEIGHBOR, UH, TO THE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RENDERINGS.

THIS IS THE VIEW OBVIOUSLY FROM COLLINS.

AS WITH THE PREVIOUS PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE NEW FAC, THE NEW EDITION IS TUCKED BACK FAR ENOUGH THAT YOU DON'T SEE IT.

AND, AND THE, AND THE HISTORIC FACADE AS IT REMAINS THE STAR OF THE SHOW VIEW HOVERING ABOVE INDIAN CREEK.

UH, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE, THE PUSHBACK NATURE OF THE, OF THE, UH, APPROVED EDITION.

THE, ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS WHAT THOSE NEW WIND, UH, THOSE NEW ROOMS

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ARE.

UH, FOR THE CHANGE TO THE ROOFTOP ADDITION, AGAIN, TUCKED WAY BACK OFF OF INDIAN CREEK.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN'T, YOU, YOU'RE SEEING IT HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE HOVERING 20 FEET IN THE AIR.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE AGAIN THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE POOL DECK AND A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WE'RE ABLE TO ADD WITH IT.

HERE'S A LITTLE DETAIL.

THE POOL DECK SHOWING TUCKED OFF TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, JUST OFF FRAME AS THE NEW LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT THE CHANGE TO THE POOL ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE.

SO IN SUMMARY, LET ME GET TO THAT PORTION.

UH, THIS APPLICATION REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN IMPACTS OVER WHAT WAS IMPROVED.

UH, A REDUCTION IN HOTEL ROOMS OR REMOVAL, THE MOST IMPORTANT REMOVAL, ALL ROOFTOP ACTIVITY PERIOD, RIGHT? THERE'S NO MORE POOL ACCESS, THERE'S NO MORE ELEVATORS UP THERE, THERE'S NO MORE PEOPLE WALKING DOWNSTAIRS TO THE LOWER DECK LEVEL.

UH, AND OF COURSE, A REDUCTION IN OVERALL HEIGHT BY THE REMOVAL OF THAT ELEVATOR OVERRIDE, THE NEW POOL DESIGN WILL IMPROVE SAFETY FOR OUR GUESTS AND WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BUFFERING TO OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.

SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING.

WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO STAFF'S CONDITIONS, SO WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR MOTION TO BE SUBJECT TO STAFF'S CONDITIONS.

AND I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GRAHAM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE WALL THAT THE STAFF, THE STONE WALL IN THE LOBBY, YOU DIDN'T REALLY COVER THE LOBBY AT ALL IN YOUR, IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THEY TALK ABOUT THE, UM, RECOMMENDING TO KEEP THE STONE CLAT WALL ALONG THE NORTH END OF THE LOBBY AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

IS THAT THE PLAN? YES.

WE, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO, UM, RETURNING THAT WALL.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND I, WE CAN SHOW YOU THE, WHERE IT WOULD LOCATE, I CAN GET THE PLANES BACK UP AND SHOW YOU WHERE IT WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD, COULD YOU DO THAT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

CAN YOU GUYS PUT A PART TWO INSTEAD OF PART ONE? I HATE TO BE A PEST ABOUT THIS, BUT LET'S JUST SHOW ME PART TWO.

SO THIS IS THE SET.

SO LET ME GET, LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT SPOT.

AND GUYS, YOU CAN STOP ME IF I GO OVERSHOOT.

OKAY.

SO ON THE PLAN, IT IS BASICALLY HERE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO IT'S BA IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A STONE CLAD, UH, THE, THEN YOU HAVE THE LINE OF THE WINDOW AND THEN IT BASICALLY CONTINUED INTO THE LOBBY.

SO WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO REINTRODUCING IT THERE, BUT GOD DARN IT.

HOLD ON.

LET ME SHOW YOU THE, THE, UM, THE LOBBY PLAN.

SO THIS IS THAT WALL HERE BEHIND THE VALET.

SO WE HAD SHOWN IT AS STUCCO WITH A, A, A, A, THIS OR IT'S PROBABLY NOT STUCCO, I APOLOGIZE, I'M INSULTING THE DESIGN.

BUT, UH, WE HAD SHOWN IT AS A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, THE STONE CLOUD WALL.

SO WE WILL REINTRODUCE IT TO MATCH WHAT WAS THE HISTORIC DESIGN.

WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOPE, I DO.

YES.

UM, JUST ON THE STONE, YOU'RE, ARE YOU REINTRODUCING THE SAME STONE OR IS IT A STONE? A NEWLY SOURCED STONE? WELL, BY THE TIME WE GOT THE CONDITION THAT WAS ALREADY DEMOLISHED, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REINTRODUCE IT.

SO IT'S, IT'S SO THAT, THAT IF YOU GO TO THE, THE PROPERTY NOW THAT THAT INNER WALL IS GONE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REINTRODUCE THAT, THAT STONE WALL.

AND, AND BRIAN, IF I COULD JUST, UM, ADD TO THAT.

SO I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT WAS GONE, BUT UM, THAT BEING SAID, BECAUSE THIS, THE STONE IS EXISTING ON THE EXTERIOR? YES, CURRENTLY YES.

UM, IT WOULD BE THE SAME STONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO WRAP INSIDE, WHICH IS KIND OF A REALLY NICE POST-WAR MODERN, UH, CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE.

SO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EXISTING STONE, WE WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET A, UH, CLOSE AS POSSIBLE MATCH.

YEAH.

SO THAT MIGHT BE TRICKY, BUT WE WILL WORK AND THEY WILL SOURCE DIFFERENT STONES FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTRY AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MATCH IT.

'CAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND YEAH, RAY, UH, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT DON'T REALLY RELATE TO THE APPLICATION.

RELATE TO THE PROPERTY.

I TOOK MY BIKE OVER THERE, RODE ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND I NOTICED THERE'S A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THE EXTERIOR WALL.

ARE YOU REPAIRING THAT WALL OR ARE YOU REPLACING THAT WALL? ARE YOU PUTTING A NEW WALL UP THE PERIMETER WALL? UH, LIKE ON INDIAN CREEK AND, AND WRAPPING AROUND TO THE CONDOMINIUM TO THE SOUTH SIDE, THE WALL'S ALL IN, ALMOST KNOCKED DOWN ON THE MIC.

THAT'S

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TO BE REPAIRED TO MATCH WHAT WAS THERE HISTORICALLY.

OKAY.

AND THERE IS NO, AND THERE IS NO ENTRANCE IN FROM INDIAN CREEK, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CONSIDERED A FRONTAGE.

THE OTHER THING I NOTICED IS WITH ALL THE DEMOLITION, UH, I BELIEVE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RETAIN THE TERRAZZO FLOOR IN THE LOBBY , BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO PROTECT THE TERRAZZO FLOOR THAT'S THERE.

I WAS WATCHING THEM, YOU KNOW, TEARING DOWN EVERYTHING INSIDE TO, TO THE COLUMNS AND THERE'S NOT A THING TO PROTECT THAT FLOOR.

SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA RESTORE THAT FLOOR? WE'RE GOING TO, BUT MY NAME IS JEFF GAM.

I REPRESENT THE OWNERSHIP FOR THE PROJECT.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE REPAIRING THE FLOOR WITH TERRAZZO, UH, PROFESSIONALS TO MATCH.

IF THERE IS DAMAGE, OF COURSE WE'VE REMOVED, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WALLS THAT WILL NOT BE COMING BACK, ET CETERA.

SO IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF PATCHING THE FLOOR.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROTECTION DOWN ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.

WHATEVER LITTLE BIT WAS STILL THERE, , THE CEMENT, EVERYTHING'S JUST FALLING RIGHT DOWN ON TOP OF IT.

I WAS WATCHING IT, SO.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

THANK YOU.

THERE IS A, A HISTORIC, UH, PRINCE MICHAEL LOGO AT THE ENTRANCE, AND I KNOW FOR SURE THAT WAS CAREFULLY PROTECTED.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

ON THE OUTSIDE THERE WAS SOMETHING DOWN, BUT ON THE INSIDE, NOTHING UNDERSTOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE THEN.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, BOARD DISCLOSURES.

I MET WITH THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL AND DID A SITE VISIT.

ALL RIGHT, PUB OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD OR RAISE YOUR HAND ON ZOOM PERMISSION TO COME FORWARD.

GOOD MORNING, WARD.

MY NAME IS MONICA CHANO AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'M, I PURCHASED AN APARTMENT NEXT DOOR AT KAPO MAR, UM, IN 2023.

SO GROWING UP IN FLORIDA, I'VE SEEN A LOT CHANGE.

UM, ONE OF WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MIAMI BEACH.

GROWING UP, I ALWAYS WANTED A PROPERTY ON MIAMI BEACH.

SO FAST FORWARD TO NOW, UM, OR FAST FORWARD TO 2023.

PURCHASED MY NEW HOME, RIGHT? I RECEIVED THE NOTICE IN THE MAIL THAT WAS PRETTY VAGUE IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONS AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE BEING MADE.

SO I WANTED TO COME FORTH, SPOKE WITH, UM, OTHER PROPERTY, UM, OWNERS FROM THE BUILDING TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADDITIONS, WHAT THE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE TO THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WROTE A COUPLE THINGS DOWN.

SO WE HAD A PETITION MADE, UM, SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE ADDITION TO THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE IN, UM, THE NOTICE WAS PRETTY VAGUE.

I WASN'T SURE IF THERE'S TWO FLOORS, ONE FLOOR, WHAT WAS TRULY BEING CHANGED FROM THE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS.

WITH THAT, SPEAKING TO THE OTHER RESIDENTS, UNDERSTANDING OUR CONCERNS, THERE'S A PETITION THAT WE SIGNED WITH A TOTAL OF 32, UM, MEMBERS THAT SIGNED AGAINST THE ADDITION.

THE REASON BEING IS, WHICH I WROTE IN THE PETITION, NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORING CHARACTER BEING A, UM, OWN, OWNING A PROPERTY.

IT'S IMPACTING NOT ONLY THE VIEW, BUT I, I WORKED VERY HARD TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS PROPERTY.

AND THIS, UM, THESE CHANGES WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT NOT ONLY MY VIEW, BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE OTHER PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LOOK INTO THE PROPERTY THAT I OWN, WHICH WILL AGAIN, DECREASE, UM, DE DECREASE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

INCREASED NOISE AND DISRUPTION FROM TOURISM.

IF YOU'RE LOCAL FROM MIAMI BEACH, THIS IS VERY MUCH A HIDDEN GEM.

YOU KNOW, IT'S AWAY FROM THE RIFFRAFF OF OCEAN DRIVE.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO PRESERVE, GIVEN ALL THE SPRING BREAK ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE.

THIS IS A VERY SMALL LITTLE GEM AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THESE THINGS BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE, IF WE KEEP GIVING AWAY OUR VIEWS, OUR BEACHES TO THE TOURISTS, THERE'LL BE NONE LEFT.

FOR RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF, THAT HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS, AND THEN NONE.

NONETHELESS, DISRUPTION

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FROM WORK, FROM HOME ENVIRONMENT.

I WORK FROM HOME.

THE CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR IS ALREADY INTERRUPTING MY ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE APARTMENT THAT I JUST INVESTED IN.

NOT TO MENTION THEY ADD AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR.

I'M I'LL CLOSE HERE.

UM, NOT TO MENTION IF THEY ADD AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR, UM, IT WON'T GIVE IT, I WON'T BE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME.

I'LL NEED TO FIND OTHER PLACES TO BE ABLE TO WORK, WHICH WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT ME.

UM, SO AGAIN, HERE REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTS OF KAMAR, THE NEIGHBORING BUILDING.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING UP AND, AND TALKING TO US.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE APPROVAL OF THIS BUILDING WAS BEFORE YOU BOUGHT YOUR PROPERTY.

SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE A LITTLE INVESTIGATION AS TO WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY AHEAD OF TIME.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.

UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING TO NOT HAVE THEM BUILD AN ADDITION THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN 2018.

THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB BY REMOVING THE ROOFTOP ADDITION WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD IS TRYING TO ADD A ROOFTOP ADDITION.

SO YOU GUYS SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT, IN MY OPINION.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA, JUST SAID IT'S, I MEAN, ACTUALLY YOU'RE GETTING A MUCH BETTER, UH, A MUCH LESS INTRUSIVE BUILDING ROUTE.

SO WHAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE WAS MUCH MORE, IT WAS HIGHER, HAD MORE, UH, TOURISTS COMING IN, SO NOW THEY LOWER THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

SO IT'S LESS BLOCKING YOUR BUILDING AND THE KIND OF CLIENTELE THEY'LL BE ATTRACTING IS MUCH LESS THE ROUTE, THE CLIENTELE THAT WILL BE PARTY ON THE ROOF DECK, POOL AND MAKING MORE NOISE, THAT PROBABLY WILL DISTURB YOU EVEN MORE.

SO I THINK AT, AT THE END YOU'RE GETTING A MUCH BETTER COMPROMISE AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DEBBIE, ARE THERE OTHERS? UM, YES, MR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND I, I THINK THE PURPOSE WAS REALLY JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE.

AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF VAGUE, AN ADDITION TO A FLOOR TAKING OUT, REMOVING SOME THINGS.

SO I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION AND THEN AGAIN, JUST TO VOICE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM AS A NEIGHBORING BUILDING.

YEAH, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME BOARD.

OH WAIT, WAIT FOR, OH, FOR MONICA.

MORE OF A COMMENT TO, TO MONICA, BUT TO ALSO TO ANYONE ELSE.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT OR MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WATCHING THAT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NOTICE MAY BE LIMITED IN WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY PORTRAYING TO YOU, BUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE SHOWING US TODAY IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO GO LOOK AT.

EVEN THE 2018 APPROVALS WOULD'VE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT.

UM, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU NEEDED TO DO THIS, BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT IT IS AVAILABLE.

AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND IT, ASK SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP YOU FIND IT BECAUSE IT EXISTS.

UM, AND IT HELPS YOU BECOME A MORE INFORMED CITIZEN AND NEIGHBOR.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

APPRECIATE IT.

SO, NO, UH, NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, I MEAN, I THINK SOMETIMES FOR RESIDENTS, VERY COMPLICATED TO FIND THINGS AND THEN YOU CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THEN YOU GET A VOICE MESSAGE, SOMEBODY WILL CALL YOU BACK, THEY CALL YOU THREE DAYS LATER AND YOU'RE IN THE MEETING OF SOMETHING ELSE, YOU DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE.

SO MAYBE WE COULD START IMPLEMENTING, PUTTING, UH, THE LINK ON THE, UM, THE NOTIFICATION TO RESIDENTS WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE FILES ONLINE.

SO THAT WILL CUT A LOT OF STEPS TRYING TO FIND INFORM THERE.

OKAY.

SO IF IT'S ALREADY THERE, , I NEVER RECEIVED ONE, SO I HAVEN'T SEEN YEAH, IT'S ON THERE.

THE PRINT IS VERY SMALL, BUT MONICA, EVEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS MEETING, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU WANNA SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PLAN SO THAT YOU CAN REPORT BACK TO, TO YOUR NEIGHBORS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU'RE WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO STAND UP AND JUST REALLY UNDERSTAND AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT SAID SOME CHANGES TO THE ROOFTOP, IT WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND, AND VOICE OUR OPINION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE, RIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IN CONVERSATION WITH THIS, THIS ISSUE, I THINK THAT WE HAVE, I I HA I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE I READ THESE NOTICES, YOU KNOW, WHERE I LIVE AND A LOT OF TIMES I THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT WRITTEN IN THE, THE MOST DIRECT WAY.

THEY, THEY APPEAR TO ME LIKE A LAW FIRM WROTE THEM THAT IS NOT PROVIDING MUCH INFORMATION THAT IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING VERY LITTLE INFORMATION AND THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT REALLY A CONTEXT.

SO I GUESS I AM CURIOUS FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, IF THERE ARE RULES AND PARAMETERS FOR THOSE NOTICES.

AND IF WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, WITH WITH THE CITY.

I, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THIS.

WE COME, WE COME HERE, WE SPEND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WEEK GOING OVER ALL THESE FILES AND EVERYTHING.

BUT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY DOESN'T DO THAT.

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AND WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT DEBBIE IS HERE AND ALL OF THESE RESOURCES, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF PERHAPS IN THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION ASPECTS THAT THE CITY GIVES, IF THE, IF THERE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE DIRECT AND, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION AND PERHAPS SOME MORE CONTEXT SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT BEFORE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAME HERE AND THEN YOU GUYS COULD HAVE HAD A, A DISCUSSION INTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR CONDO BOARD.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

'CAUSE READING THROUGH IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IT, IT'S MIS IT'S MISLEADING.

SO I UNDERSTAND.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

CALL OUT.

ALRIGHT, LINDSAY, YOU'RE LIT UP.

NO, NO.

OKAY.

UM, OTHER PUBLIC, I I GUESS THAT THAT IS A QUESTION THOUGH.

SORRY, THAT WAS A QUESTION TO, TO DEBBIE, UM, OR TO NICK, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS, UM, THAT THE CITY GIVES TO APPLICANTS ON THOSE COMMUNICATIONS AND WHO DETERMINES THAT AND HOW THAT, HOW CAN THAT BE POTENTIALLY AMENDED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE PERHAPS? SO, UH, STAFF DOES PREPARE THE NOTICING THAT THERE ARE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NOTICING THAT THE LOCATION, DATE AND TIME OF THE MEETING AS WELL AS A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE REQUEST.

IF YOU'VE EVER RECEIVED ONE OF THESE MAIL NOTICES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.

IN FACT WE PUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON INCLUDING, YOU'RE CORRECT ALL OF THE LEGAL CODE SECTIONS AND, AND HOW THE APPLICATION WAS FILED, INCLUDING NOW THE ZOOM INFORMATION, A LOT OF ADDED INFORMATION, UM, AND INCLUDING THE LINK WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE PLANS.

SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF JAMMED IN TO THE NOTICE.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.

THE, THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT IT'S A MODIFICATION.

SO WE PUT THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, I EVEN GET CONFUSED WHEN I READ, WHEN I'M WRITING SOME OF THESE, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST AND THEN WE SAY SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS NOW REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE DESCRIPTIVE WE CAN GET.

WE'RE ALSO, IF THERE'S A VARIANCE, WHICH WHICH WAS THE CASE HERE, WE HAVE TO UH, NOTICE THAT IF THERE'S A VARIANCE AND FROM WHICH PORTION OF THE CODE THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTED FROM, UM, THE BEST, THE BEST SCENARIO HERE IS FOR THE PLANS TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE APPLICANT.

I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER IN TERMS OF, UH, DIRECTING THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE NOTICE EXACTLY WHERE TO GO TO FIND THE PLANS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE PLANS MAY HAVE 40 DIFFERENT MINOR CHANGES AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PRACTICAL TO THINK THAT WE CAN WRITE ALL OF THAT AND, AND MAKE IT EVEN CLEARER THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY GET MORE CONFUSING.

UM, SO I THINK LOOKING AT THE PLANS IS THE MOST HELPFUL.

I GET EMAILS ALL THE TIME ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE GET THESE NOTICES, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND I, AND I TOTALLY, THAT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPER DESCRIPTIVE IN THE, IN THE NARRATIVE ON THE NOTICE.

AND NOW WITH OUR AGENDA SYSTEM, I'M ABLE TO SEND SOMEONE THE LINK FOR ALL THE PLANS, ALL THE DOCUMENTS, AND THEN I SAY, PLEASE REVIEW AND CALL ME OR EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M HAPPY AND I TO DO THIS FREQUENTLY TO SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THE, THE PLANS, UH, PAGE BY PAGE.

UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER WITH ADVERTISING THAT TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD REACH OUT TO ME, YOU MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

SO I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER WITH THAT.

AND THEN EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, LIKE YOU KNOW, WITH THE OTHER BOARDS WHERE THERE'S OVERSIGHT TOO, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW, OKAY, IF THIS IS THE PLANNING BOARD, THIS IS WHO I SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO.

IF THIS IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES AND THAT CONTACT INFORMATION I THINK COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

I AGREE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN SUBMITTING THE PETITION, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE REACHED OUT, HEY BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE LINK OR HERE'S THE INFORMATION, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN REFERENCE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.

RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS WERE DOING BECAUSE THERE WAS AMENDMENT BEING MADE.

WE FIGURED IT WAS THE TIME TO SEE IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO TAKE BACK THE ADDITION BEING MADE ALREADY.

BUT IT SEEMS TO BE THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.

BUT AGAIN, VOCALIZING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, VOCALIZING AS SOMEONE THAT PURCHASED NEXT DOOR, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO STAND UP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, ARE THERE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK? YES, ON ZOOM I SEE DANIEL ERALDO, I DANIEL, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THIS TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS, DANIEL ERALDO CALLING REMOTELY.

UM, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SO AS FAR AS

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THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, WE SUPPORT THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE STAFF CONDITIONS.

WE KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT BEING COMPLETED, BUT WE'RE ALSO VERY THANKFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORS FOR COMING IN.

AND I WANTED TO MENTION TOO THAT OUR ORGANIZATION HAS A WEBSITE WITH A BLOG WHICH SHARES ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.

SO MONICA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONNECT WITH US@MDPL.ORG AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU DANIEL.

OUR NEXT, UH, SPEAKER IS MARIA ROMERO.

HI MARIA.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? YES.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE BOARD TO ALLOW ME THE TIME.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I'M NOT EXACTLY CLEAR OF WHAT WILL BE IN THE ROOFTOP LOUNGE.

IS THAT ADDITIONAL HOTEL ROOMS OR, UH, WHAT WAS THE CHANGE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE STRUCTURE AND WHO WILL BE THERE? BECAUSE THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY ON THE LIGHT OF SIGHT OF MY BALCONY IN KAMAR, WHICH I'VE BEEN A RESIDENCE SINCE 2001.

UM, SECOND.

UM, TO ECHO WHAT THE COUNCILWOMAN SAID, I'VE RECEIVED THESE NOTICES OVER THE YEAR AND THEY'RE HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND HARD TO REACH.

AND WHEN YOU'RE BUSY AND WORKING, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THEM.

SO THE MORE THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT EASY OR DIRECT US TO, UH, LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE OF ALL OF THESE VARIOUS THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

AND THIRD, UM, I HAVE KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPERS OR BUILDERS MIGHT BE THERE.

UM, I'VE ASKED, UH, WE'VE ASKED THAT YOU DO NOT BEGIN WORK BEFORE 8:00 AM WHICH HAPPENS ROUTINELY.

SO I KINDLY REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP THAT BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO US JUST A FEW FEET AWAY FROM OUR BALCONIES, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF KAMAR.

AND THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

OKAY, THANK YOU MARIA.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAVIER.

HI JAVIER.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD? YES, MY NAME IS JAVIER DIAZ.

DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? YES.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK NOW.

UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS THAT THE, THE PROPERTY DEVELOPER WAS SHOWING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN BRING BACK THE FRONT ELEVATION OR THE REAR ELEVATION WHERE YOU SHOW THE APPROVED CONDITION AND THE PROPOSED CONDITION.

NOW, IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM, I, I THINK WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY DO IS COLLECT YOUR, UM, YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN HAVE THEM ADDRESS THEM AFTERWARDS.

BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I'M TRYING TO TAKE NOTES ON THIS.

YEAH, I'M SORRY, HEATHER.

YEAH, SO, SO, SO I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS THAT I WANT THEM TO CLARIFY.

UH, I DO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THAT BEFORE, BUT I LIVE A COUPLE MORE.

I'M A NEW, NEW OWNER, UH, ABOUT MY APARTMENT THIS YEAR.

BUT, UH, I USED TO LIVE AT LAKE BEACH, WHICH IS THE OTHER BUILDING THAT IS AFFECTED.

SO I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE SITE.

UM, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THE, ON THE RENDERING THAT THEY SHOWED, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE WALL OR THE ROOFTOP ADDITION NOW IT'S GONNA BECOME ROOMS AND IT'S GONNA BE HIGHER.

EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SAYING IT'S LOWER, THAT WALL IS GONNA BE TALLER NOW AND IT'S GONNA BLOCK EVEN FURTHER THE VIEW ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, AND, UM, I, I MEAN, I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE BUILDING MEETS THE MINIMUM SETBACKS ON THAT SIDE.

UH, IT SEEMS THAT THE WALL, THE, THE BUILDING WALL IS VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

UH, WHICH IF YOU COMPARE TO OUR BUILDING, KAMAR IS FURTHER BACK LIKE WHERE A APART OR WHERE THE BALCONY START.

SO IF YOU MAKING THE WALL NOW EVEN CLOSER AND TALLER, ISN'T THAT ENCROACHING INTO THE EXISTING, LIKE MAYBE SETBACK? UH, SO I WANTED THEM TO CLARIFY IF THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A VARIANCE TO DO THAT OR NOT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TALLER NOW.

AND, AND THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE BUILDING SEEMS TO BE BIGGER NOW, LIKE IT HAS MORE LOADS.

UM, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR OUR FOUNDATION 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE CRACKS OR ANYTHING GOING ON IN OUR BUILDING DUE TO THAT CONSTRUCTION.

HOW ARE THEY GONNA, HOW ARE THEY PLANNING TO STRENGTHEN OR BUILD A NEW FOUNDATION AND IF THEY'RE GONNA MONITOR OUR BUILDING? SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SETTLEMENT OR ANY ISSUES WITH

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THAT.

SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I HAVE THE, UM, RENDERING OF THE ROOFTOP.

IS IT HIGHER THAN BEFORE THE BUILDING SETBACKS AND THE FOUNDATION, ALL THOSE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH JAVI.

UM, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COMMENT SEEING NONE? NO.

OKAY.

UM, SO DID YOU GRAHAM, DID YOU TAKE NOTES ON THAT? SO WE HAD, UH, MARIA ROMERO WAS ASKING ABOUT, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE ROOFTOP LOUNGE SHE CALLED IT.

SURE.

UM, ASKED ABOUT THAT.

SHE TALKED ABOUT THE NOTICES AND THEN SHE ALSO ASKED ABOUT, UH, NOT BEGINNING WORK BEFORE 8:00 AM AND THEN JAVIER TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, AGAIN, THE ROOFTOP, WHETHER IT'S HIGH OR NOT, UM, BUILDING SETBACKS AND THE IMPACT OF ANY FOUNDATION WORK.

SURE.

LET ME, LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

IF WE COULD PUT THE SLIDES BACK UP.

I THINK THIS WILL HELP ON THE ELEVATIONS.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION, THE ELEVATION THAT FACES KMAR.

YOU KNOW, AS I BLATHERED ON ABOUT DURING OUR PRESENTATION, THE BIGGEST CHANGE HERE, AND HOPEFULLY YOU FOLKS ONLINE CAN SEE THIS IS THE REMOVAL ON THE TOP HERE OF ALL THAT ACTIVITY.

THIS IS THE POOL DECK THAT'S APPROVED ON TOP OF THE ROOFTOP ADDITION.

THIS IS THE ROOFTOP ADDITION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME IN THE, IN THE NEW VERSION, WHICH IS HOTEL ROOMS. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOTEL ROOMS. THERE'S NO LOUNGE OR ANYTHING THERE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOSING IS ALL THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE HERE, PEOPLE OUTSIDE HERE ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OOPS.

UH, AND THEN THE PEOPLE ALL THE WAY IN THE TIP TIP TOP ROOF.

WE, UM, TO ANSWER MARIA'S QUESTION ABOUT CONSTRUCTION HOURS, I JUST TALKED TO JEFF, WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'RE COMMITTING TO NO LONGER, NO EARLIER THAN 8:00 AM UM, HERE TODAY.

SO IF THERE HAS BEEN ACTIVITY GOING ON BEFORE THAT IT WILL NO LONGER.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT JAVIER ASKED ABOUT SIZE, IT'S NOT GETTING ANY BIGGER.

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING SMALLER.

WE'RE LOSING BULK ON THE BUILDING AS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

SO IT'S NOT GETTING ANY TALLER.

IT'S GETTING SHORTER.

UM, AND WE'RE LOSING THAT ELEVATOR OVERRIDE AND OF COURSE YOU'RE LOSING ALL THAT ACTIVITY AS TO THE CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T KNOW.

JEFF, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION? SURE.

SO, UH, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS DESIGN OF THIS, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE STRUCTURAL, UH, ADDITION BECAUSE WE'RE REMOVING THE ROOFTOP POOL AND THE ROOFTOP OCCUPIED AREAS, WHICH HAVE AN ASSEMBLY LOAD.

SO THERE WILL BE A NEW STRUCTURE INTRODUCED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THAT STRUCTURE WILL BE A STEEL STRUCTURE WITH A MINIMAL IMPACT, UH, TO, TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORS WHEN THE WORK IS DONE.

WE CAN FOLLOW STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR MONITORING ANY CRACK DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING ON NEIGHBOR'S BUILDINGS DURING THAT TIME.

SO THERE WILL BE INTERIOR, NEW FOUNDATION WORK DONE AT SELECTIVE LOCATIONS TO SUPPORT THE STEEL COLUMNS THAT WILL HOLD THIS NEW FIFTH FLOOR OR FOURTH FLOOR STRUCTURE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, GRAHAM, COULD YOU, UH, UH, JUST ADDRESS MAYBE WITH THE PLAN UP THE, JUST GO OVER THE SETBACKS, LIKE WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING IS AND PLAN AND, AND ANY, UM, CHANGES TO THE, UH, IN THE NEW BUILDING? HOLD ON, LEMME LOOK AT THE, GET THE, THE TWO SITE PLANS UP.

I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

HOPEFULLY.

SO HERE'S THE APPROVED SITE.

SO YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE, WHAT, I CAN'T EVEN READ THAT MEASUREMENT OF, OF THE EXISTING BUILDING LINE ON, ON THE NORTH, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEW VERSION, NOTHING'S CHANGING.

WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY CLOSER, UM, IN THIS CHANGE VERSUS WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.

SO IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME BUILDING LINE THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

NOT BASICALLY IT IS.

SO THAT SETBACK IS, I CANNOT MEASURE IT.

DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE NUMBER ON THE NORTH SIDE? IT'S A FIVE FEET, SIX FIVE FEET BECAUSE THE HISTORIC, THE HISTORIC SETBACK WAS FIVE.

YEAH.

BUT THE ADDITION DOES NOT COME UP TODAY.

YEAH.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITION IS PUSHED BACK, UM, FURTHER BACK.

THAT'S THE SAW TOOTH THERE.

THAT'S THAT BUILDING LINE.

SO I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY ADEQUATELY ANSWERED THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, OKAY, NOW WE'RE AT THE STAGE OF, UH, BOARD MEMBER COMMENT AND THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.

YES.

WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK? CAN YOU JUST TELL US HOW MUCH AREA YOU ARE ADDING AS PER THE APPROVED PLAN AND HOW MUCH AREA YOU'LL BE ADDING NOW? I MEAN IN CLOSE SPACE, AIR CONDITION SPENT IS, HAS ANYONE GOT THE MATH IN FRONT OF THE ? LET ME PULL THE PLATES OUT.

ELIZABETH.

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YOU GUYS COULD ALWAYS GET UP AND HELP ME.

YEAH.

UH, JUST KIDDING.

OKAY, SO THE, UH, LET'S SEE, IS IT SHOWN HERE SO I CAN ANSWER THAT.

THE SECOND FLOOR EDITION IS 262 SQUARE FEET AND THE TWO ADDITIONS ON THE ROOF TOTAL 1,217 SQUARE FEET.

THAT HOW DOES COMPARE TO WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BEFORE? THAT WAS WHAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

IF YOU, IT'S BASICALLY A TRADE.

I THINK WE ARE, WE'RE TRADING THE FAR THAT WAS IN THE BASEMENT, RIGHT? FOR THAT, THOSE NEW ADDITIONS.

SO BASICALLY IT IS BASED ON THIS NUMBER.

WE HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME FAR BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS, EXACTLY THE SAME FAR, BUT THE DISTRIBUTION CHANGES.

SO MORE OF THE FAR IS LOCATED ON THE ROOFTOP.

THE, WITH THOSE, YEAH.

WITHOUT THOSE TWO NEW ROOMS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, THAT'S BASICALLY THE BIGGEST.

AND HOW, WHAT'S THE, THE SUM OF THOSE TWO ROOMS THAT'S ON THE POOL OR THE NON, THE NOT POOL DECK.

DECK? YES.

SORRY, DIDN'T YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER JANE? GIVE HIM THAT NUMBER ADDITIONAL, YEAH, HOLD ON.

THE TWO NEW, THE TWO NEW ROOFTOP AREAS TOTAL 1,217 SQUARE FEET.

OKAY.

THERE, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ROOFTOP, UM, WAS 5,762 SQUARE FEET.

SO HERE IT IS.

AND HERE'S THE PLAN, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE, THIS IS THE TWO NEW ROOMS. THAT'S AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT ROOM TO EXTEND THAT LITTLE FIN.

AND THIS IS THE, THE PINK IS, IS THIS, UH, WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS JUST, UH, HALLWAYS, ET CETERA, ACCESSING THAT.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER, IS THIS ANOTHER ROOM HERE? NO.

WHAT IS THAT? I'M SORRY.

UM, OH, THAT'S MECHANICAL.

YEP.

SO SORRY, A APOLOGIZE.

SO THIS IS MECHANICAL.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A NEW HALLWAY ACCESSING THESE TWO NEW ROOMS HERE, AND THEN WE'VE ADDED THAT.

SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE, THE NEW FAR OF THE ROOF ALL ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, BASICALLY AWAY FROM CAPOR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR A BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.

AND UH, MAYBE JUST GO DOWN THE, GO DOWN THE LINE.

WOULD, UM, OKAY.

WOULD RAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? WELL, FIRST OFF, IN THE EARLY NINETIES WHEN EVERYBODY WAS CONDUITING BUILDINGS, THIS WAS UP FOR A CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AND I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT PURCHASING SOMETHING THERE, BUT CHOSE TO BUY AT THE MANTEL.

I'M HAPPY I PICKED THE MANTEL NOW.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, I, I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH, WITH THE PROJECT.

EVERYBODY, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WOULD BE COMING TO US WANTING TO ADD THE ROOFTOP AND ADD THE POOL AND ALL OF THAT.

AND NEIGHBORS GOING, WHOA, WHAT IS THIS? YOU HAD ALREADY HAD THAT APPROVED AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO REMOVE THAT IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BEST INTEREST AND PUT THE POOL ON THE FIRST LEVEL.

AND YOUR VARIANCE IS REGARDING DECK.

IT'S NOT BEING, BRINGING A BUILDING CLOSER TO THE, TO THE EDGES OR WHATEVER.

SO I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, UH, AND I, I FULLY APPROVE IT.

THANK YOU, LAURA.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I REALLY LOVE THE PLANS.

I THOUGHT THE, THE LANDSCAPE WAS VERY MUCH IMPROVED AND THEY SEEM LIKE RATIONAL REQUESTS, UM, FOR VARIANCE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE POOL.

UM, AND OVERALL, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB TO ENHANCE THE HISTORIC BUILDING.

SO I REALLY HOPE YOU DO BRING BACK ALL THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES.

ALL THOSE DETAILS ARE, ARE CRITICAL, UM, IN THESE SOMEWHAT, UM, HUMBLE BUILDINGS.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRIAN.

NO? OKAY, ELIZABETH, NO, JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE CHANGES.

I THINK THE END PRODUCT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR, AND THEN THE REGIONAL ONE, SO I'M VERY HAPPY WITH IT.

LET SEE.

SO I'LL ECHO EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID BY MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE INCORPORATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF, UM, BRINGING THAT, UH, STONE CLOUD WALL, UM, INTO THE INTERIOR.

UM, AS WAS TYPICAL AT THE TIME, UM, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE

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CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO IMPROVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I'M GONNA TAKE A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE.

I I, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I, SO I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS WANTING MORE CLARITY.

UM, BUT I, I WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR, UM, ON A COUPLE THINGS.

SO THE NOTICE THAT IS SENT TO THE RESIDENTS IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO INCLUDE CERTAIN INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE LIMITED, LIKE WHAT CAN GO ON THERE, RIGHT? ONLY CERTAIN INFORMATION CAN FIT ON THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT IS SENT OUT.

I MEAN, EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD HAS, YOU KNOW, THE PACKAGES THAT WE RECEIVED.

I THINK ANYONE HERE WILL AGREE THAT TO PROVIDE ALL OF THAT IN PAPER FORM TO ALL RESIDENTS REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED IS NOTHING OTHER THAN IMPRACTICAL, RIGHT? I THINK LAURA'S ABOUT TO HOLD ONE UP, , THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE PACKAGES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

UM, AND, AND WE GET ALL OF THAT AND WE STILL REGULARLY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE TO GET ANSWERED HERE.

SO BY NO MEANS DO I WANNA DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM COMING FROM THE BOARD.

WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT ALL RESIDENTS KNOW IS THAT THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND SOMETIMES YOU WILL DO BETTER AND GET FURTHER, UM, IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAD BEFORE THEY GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE IN FRONT OF US.

UM, AND TO THAT EXTENT, AND, YOU KNOW, DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER GRAHAM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THEIR ATTORNEY IS READILY AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVE IN THE PAST ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE TODAY, THIS WAS A RELATIVELY SEEMS TO BE RESOLVED NOW THAT WE'RE HERE.

UM, BUT AS A RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE.

SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE SOME WORK TO FIND IT, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, UH, ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE BOARD.

UH, THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS I'VE GOTTEN ON MY CELL PHONE, UM, , YOU KNOW, AND TYPICALLY I REFER THEM TO THE CITY.

UM, AND SO WHILE IT MAY SEEM DIRECTED AT YOU, IT REALLY ISN'T.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE.

AND I REALLY DON'T WANT US TO CREATE ANY DOUBT AS TO THE LEGAL SUFFICIENCY OF THE NOTICE THAT GOES OUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE NOTICE WHEN YOU GET THOSE NOTICES, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO CHECK YOUR MAIL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.

SO GOOD FOR YOU FOR CHECKING YOUR MAIL.

UM, AND WHEN YOU GET THOSE NOTICES, THAT'S A NOTIFICATION THAT SOMETHING'S GOING ON AND THAT'S GIVING YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO AND FIND OUT MORE SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T CARE OR, YOU KNOW, THEY THROW IT RIGHT IN THE TRASH OR HOPEFULLY THE RECYCLING.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP, UM, BEFORE WE CONTINUE.

AND I'M DONE NOW.

THANKS.

GREAT.

NO, WONDERFUL POINTS.

UH, THANK YOU LINDSAY.

AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT I THINK THE, HAVING BEEN ON THE APPROVAL PROCESS IN 2018 AND SEEING THIS AGAIN, I THINK THE MOST SIGNIFICANT, UM, THIS MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FOR THE BUILDING AND FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS IS MOVING THAT POOL OFF THE ROOF SO YOU'RE NOT HEARING PEOPLE SCREECHING AND LAUGHING AT, AT MIDNIGHT UP IN THE POOL, DOWN INTO TO THE GROUND LEVEL.

AND I THINK THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS SUCH A SMART MOVE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

IT RINGS IT BACK TO THE HISTORIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE HOTEL.

OBVIOUSLY, WATER'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR ALL OF US WHO LIVE HERE IN MIAMI BEACH.

UM, AND, UH, SO I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE TWO VARIANCES, WHICH WE HAVEN'T REALLY SPOKEN ABOUT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO WALK AROUND THE ENTIRE POOL AND THAT THE VARIANCES FOR THE DECK ARE, ARE SOMETHING THAT I, UM, PARTICULARLY WELCOME, UH, APPROVAL OF.

BUT, UM, YEAH.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD AND, UM, KINDA BEING HERE TO HELP US, HELP US HAVE THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I GUESS WE WILL, UH, TAKE, UH, WE NEED TWO VOTES.

ONE FOR THE VARIANCES AND ONE FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

SO, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS? READY? I SECOND.

OKAY, LET ME CALL THE ROLL.

MS. WEINSTEIN BERMAN? YES.

MR. EHRLICH? YES.

MS. LOVE? YES.

MS. CARGO? YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

MR. STEWART? YES.

OKAY.

AND, UH, NOW IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE TWO VARIANCES? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN.

SECOND.

OKAY.

I'LL CALL THE ROLE.

MR. EHRLICH? YES.

MS. LOVELL? YES.

MS. WEINSTEIN BARMAN? YES.

MS. CAR? MARGO? YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

MR. STEWART? YES.

OKAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

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UH, DEBBIE, I HAVE ONE THING THAT MAYBE I BRING UP TOO, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE.

I THINK EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A, A, A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT GOES ON, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WORKS ON THAT PROJECT AND THAT THEIR NAME IS AVAILABLE TO THE NEIGHBORING.

UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S RESIDENTS TO CALL AND COMPLAIN.

I MEAN, THAT WOMAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CALL, UH, AND SAY, HEY, 8:00 AM IS THE TIME.

AND THEY COULD AGREE TO THIS A LONG TIME AGO.

SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE TO GO TO.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.

THAT, YEAH, AND THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE WITH THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.

SO THE CITY'S BUILDING, UH, DEPARTMENT HAS, YOU CAN SEARCH FOR BUILDING PERMITS ONLINE WITH THE CONTACT, AND IT SHOULD HAVE, UH, THE OWNER'S CONTACT INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTOR CONTACT INFORMATION.

BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE POSTED ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, A POSTED REQUIREMENT.

THE PERMIT IS, THE PERMIT NUMBER SHOULD, IS REQUIRED TO POSTED THE PERMIT NUMBER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE CONTACT INFO WITH THE PERMIT NUMBER.

WE DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

READY TO MOVE ON TO THE

[3. HPB24-0635, 100 21st Street.]

SECOND, UH, REGULAR APPLICATION THIS MORNING IS HPV 24 0 6 3 5.

UH, THIS IS 121ST STREET AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY ISSUED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PORTICO SHARE.

UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN 2021.

UM, IT'S AN EXISTING, UH, POST-WAR MODERN STRUCTURE, UH, THE SEAGULL HOTEL.

I THINK MOST OF YOU WILL, WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT.

UM, IN 2021, THE APPLICANT CAME BEFORE YOU FOR SOME, UH, SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING, ALONG WITH NEW ADDITIONS AS PART OF A, UH, PROJECT FOR THE HOTEL.

SINCE THAT TIME, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS RECEIVED A FULL BUILDING PERMIT.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOBILIZED ON SITE AND ARE PERFORMING CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY.

UM, IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, THE ENGINEER, THE CONTRACTOR AND THEN THE, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT NOTICED SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE PORTICO SHARE.

THERE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN PORTIONS, AND YOU'LL REMEMBER WE HAD A, A, SOME, A RASH OF BAD WEATHER.

UM, THIS PROPERTY GETS A, A LOT OF WIND, UM, IN ITS LOCATION, AND THERE WERE PORTIONS THAT SEEMED TO BE FALLING FROM THE CEILING OF THE PORTICO SHARE.

UM, THE ENGINEER IMMEDIATELY RESTRICTED ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA IN ORDER TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.

UM, THEY DID INVESTIGATE IT AND THOUGHT THAT THE PORTICO SHARE COULD BE SAVED CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL OF THE BOARD, BUT THEN A SHORT TIME AFTER THAT, ACTUALLY LARGER, MORE CONCERNING PORTIONS STARTED TO FALL.

WE WERE, AS STAFF, WE WERE CONTACTED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BY THE APPLICANT.

SO I REALLY WANNA THANK THEM FOR THAT.

THEY DIDN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND SAY, OH, IT'S FALLING DOWN.

LET'S, LET'S GET RID OF IT.

IT'S A, IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN, LET'S GET RID OF IT.

THEY ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE SAFETY CONCERN BY RESTRICTING ALL ACCESS TO THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CALLED STAFF IMMEDIATELY.

UM, WE TALKED WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT, WE SAW SOME, THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN THE INITIAL STRUCTURAL, UH, EVALUATION.

AND, UM, WE DID DETERMINE, AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION, THAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION NOT ONLY FOR THE HISTORIC BUILDING, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS PORTICO SHARE IS TIED INTO THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER DAMAGE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE, AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE A SAFE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CREW.

WE DO THINK THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO ALLOW THE DEMOLITION IN RECONSTRUCTION.

WE DO HAVE, UH, VERY GOOD DOCUMENTATION OF THE PORTICO SHARE AND THE, THE APPLICANT HAS ADVISED US THEY HAD ALREADY PERFORMED A 3D LASER SCAN OF THIS STRUCTURE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT AN ACCURATE, UH, REPRODUCTION OF THE PORTICO SHARE, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE BOARD? NOPE.

SEEING NONE.

WELCOME.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

BOARD MEMBERS, NICK NOO WITH THE LAW FIRM OF BILLS AND SUNBURG.

OUR OFFICES LOCATED AT 1450 BRICKELL AVENUE, SUITE 2300.

I'M JOINED TODAY WITH MY, BY MY COLLEAGUE CARTER MCDOWELL, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER YUSEF OCKHAM, AND OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT PATRICIA SRA.

UM, I DON'T THINK I COULD TEE IT UP ANY BETTER THAN, THAN DEBBIE ALREADY HAS.

I HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION,

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BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMPLICATE THIS.

UM, AS YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT FOR THE BUL GREEN HOTEL BACK IN JUNE OF 2021.

UH, AN AMAZING PROJECT.

I THINK RE HOTELS, THERE'S 10 AROUND THE WORLD, AND THE ONLY PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES THEY'VE CHOSE TO HAVE ONE IS IN THIS CITY, WHICH I THINK IS REMARKABLE.

UM, SHOWN ON OUR COVER PAGE OF OUR SLIDE THAT I THINK YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD PULL IT UP.

UM, THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE HOTEL, THE PROJECT THAT YOU APPROVED.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY JUST TODAY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PORT SHARE STRUCTURE, WHICH YOU SEE ME HIGHLIGHTING HERE.

I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD TO KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHT REEL THAT DEBBIE MENTIONED.

UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION.

UM, THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WE, WE PLAN TO RESTORE THE PORT CO SHARE AND, AND SAVE THE EXISTING POR PORT CO SHARE.

UM, AS DEBBIE MENTIONED, WE WERE, WE WERE HELD UP AFTER THE APPROVAL BY SOME LITIGATION.

WE NOW HAVE A FULL BUILDING PERMIT.

AND AS WE, WE ORGANIZED ON SITE AND STARTED TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM STARTED TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, CHUNKS OF CONCRETE FALLING FROM THE PORTHA.

UM, OUR ENGINEER, YUSEF WAS CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY, DID AN INSPECTION, UM, SHORED THE STRUCTURE AND, AND CORDONED IT OFF SO THAT NONE OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CREW WERE AT RISK.

WE IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED STAFF AND, AND NOW WE'RE HERE, UM, SIMPLY ASKING FOR A MODIFICATION TO OUR APPLICATION SO THAT WE MAY DEMOLISH AND, AND RECONSTRUCT, UH, THE POCO SHARE, UM, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED.

AND TO DEBBIE'S POINT, IT IS IN YOUR BACKUP, WE DID DO LASER IMAGING SCANNING OF THIS STRUCTURE.

SO WE DO HAVE, UH, ALL OF THE TECHNICAL DETAIL WE WOULD NEED TO, TO RECONSTRUCT THIS ACCURATELY.

SHOWING YOU JUST SOME OF THE PICTURES, UM, THAT ARE TAKEN BY OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM ON SITE, UH, WITH THIS, THIS LAST, THIS LAST SET HERE, UM, KIND OF BEING THE EXISTING CONDITION AS IT'S BEEN CORNERED OFF.

AND WE, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE WAITING FOR THIS HEARING.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SHORING IN PLACE.

YOU CAN SEE, UM, PART OF WHERE THEY CUT INTO THE ROOF TO EXAMINE TO SEE WHETHER WE COULD SAVE IT.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE DETERMINED THAT IT WAS, IT WAS TOO FAR GONE FOR US TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I HAVE OUR PROJECT ENGINEER HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR HIM TO ANSWER.

OTHERWISE, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY, UM, BOARD MEMBER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING, UH, NONE.

UH, ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? NO, NO, NO.

SEEING NONE.

ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK, UM, ON ZOOM, I SEE, UH, DANIEL ERALDO.

YES.

HI, GOOD MORNING STILL.

DANIEL ERALDO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

WE DID REVIEW THE APPLICATION.

WE UNDERSTAND, UH, SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY THE LONG-TERM ABANDONMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE NEED TO RECONSTRUCT THE PORTICO SHARE.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE OVERALL DESIGN AND PROGRAM FOR THE SITE.

AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW HOTEL REOPENING UNDER THE ARY FLAGSHIP.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU DANIEL.

MR. CHAIR, I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS WISHING TO COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THEN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UM, OPEN IT UP TO BOARD COMMENT.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? RIGHT? GO FOR IT.

I JUST WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR NOT COMING BACK TO SAY, OH, GEE, WE HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND NOW WE WANNA BUILD THIS BIG ELABORATE OF PORT KAGER AND THAT YOU REALLY WANNA REPLICATE IT.

I GIVE YOU A, A, A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT FOR DOING THAT.

THANK YOU.

LAURA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? OH, NO.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

.

, BRIAN.

YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK, JUST, UH, SUCCINCTLY AS POSSIBLE.

WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T DEMOLISH IT AND, YOU KNOW, ACT, YOU LET US KNOW, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY INFORMED US.

WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ENGINEER'S, YOU KNOW, OPINION AND LETTER AND SEEN THE DOCUMENTS.

AND I ALSO THINK JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, FOR US, LIKE AS A BOARD, WE SHOULD BE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS OF PEOPLE'S TIME WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE FULL APPROVAL BEFORE OUR BOARD.

SO I WOULD, AFTER MY COLLEAGUES MAKE COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ELIZABETH.

ANYTHING TO ADD? JUST TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE SCANNING OF THE STRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN REPLICATE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE ORIGINAL.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT STEP TOWARDS THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, NOTHING LINDSEY.

OKAY.

I I

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HAD ONE QUESTION, UM, JUST ABOUT HOW YOU DID THE SCANNING.

UM, IS ANYBODY HERE WHO COULD SPEAK TO THAT, WHO WAS WORKING ON THE SCANNING? DO YOU SPEAK TO THE LASER IMAGING? JUST LIKE WHAT LASER TECHNOLOGY DID YOU USE TO SCAN IT? WAS IT PHOTOGRAMMETRY? WAS IT, WAS IT ACTUALLY USING A LASER? LIKE GOOD MORNING, GOOD USE OF HASHEM? STRUCTURAL ENGINEER? UH, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS LASER SCANNING.

OH, OKAY.

BUT, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS TECHNOLOGY THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT THEY DO ALL THAT TIME.

IT'S, IT'S LASER IMAGING, 3D SCANS.

THEY, THEY MOVE, THEY MOVE THE SCANNER AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY SCAN THE WHOLE THING AND RIGHT.

THEY STITCH IT IN THE, IN THE COMPUTERS.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY THEY USED IN THIS CASE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, BUT LIKE WHAT THE BRAND WAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF YOU, IF YOU HAD ANYBODY HERE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE BRAND.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULDN'T COME PREPARED FOR THAT, BUT IT WAS JUST, JUST A, I THOUGHT I'D TRY.

OKAY.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION TO THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UM, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS DESCRIBED BY STAFF.

GREAT.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, LET ME CALL THE ROLE.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

MS. WEINSTEIN BERMAN.

YES.

MS. LOVELL? YES.

MS. CAR.

MARGO? YES.

MR. EHRLICH? YES.

MR. STEWART? YES.

MS. ONCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DID I CALL LAURA? OKAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL FIND OUT INFORMATION.

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S OKAY.

IT WAS A MOMENT, .

YEAH.

YES.

IT'S BECOMING MORE, MORE AVAILABLE.

DID YOU, DID YOU COME PREPARED TO SPEAK FOR TECHNOLOGY ? NO.

WELL, UM, OKAY, LET'S SEE.

MOVING ON TO THE

[4. HPB24-0627, 8240 Byron Avenue.]

NEXT APPLICATION.

WE HAVE HPB 24 0 6 2 7.

THIS IS 82 40 BYRON AVENUE.

AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON AN EXISTING VACANT LOT, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS IN A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED DRIVEWAY WIDTH.

UM, AS NOTED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, UM, STAFF HAS GIVEN A BRIEF HISTORY OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

IT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT SITE, UM, PRIOR TO THE TATUM WATERWAY EXPANSION OF THE NORTH SHORE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION.

UM, THERE WAS A, A BUILDING HERE THAT WAS CONTRIBUTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRAR OF HISTORIC PLACES.

UM, BUT IN 2019, UH, THERE WAS A FIRE, THE BUILDING WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DEMOLISHED, UH, PURSUANT TO AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION ORDER.

AND WAS IS NO LONGER THERE WHEN THE, WHEN THE EXPANSION OF THE NORTH SHORE DISTRICT WAS DESIGNATED IN 2021.

SINCE THERE WAS NO BUILDING THERE, IT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT CONSIDERED A, A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO OUTLINE THAT HISTORY.

UM, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FOUR UNIT, UH, FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON THE VACANT SITE.

UH, THE NEW STRUCTURE DOES HAVE A SMALL LOBBY AND SEVEN PARKING SPACES.

THE PARKING SPACES INCLUDE, UH, MECHANICAL LIFT PARKING.

SO THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE MECHANICAL LIFTS.

TYPICALLY, LARGER PROJECTS THAT HAVE MORE THAN 20 RESIDENTIAL UNITS DO REQUIRE A FULL PLANNING BOARD REVIEW.

BUT WE HAVE OUTLINED OUR ANALYSIS FOR THIS VERY MODEST INTRODUCTION OF MECHANICAL PARKING, UM, AND HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN OF THE OVERALL CONTEMPORARY, UH, NEW BUILDING.

UH, IT, THE DISTRIBUTION OF ARCHITECTURAL FORM WE BELIEVE HAS RESULTED IN A NEW RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, IN THIS REGARD.

THE THIRD, THE THREE STORY PORTION.

SO ABOVE THE SECOND STORY, UM, HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SET BACK, UM, 25 FEET MAINTAINING THE LOWER SCALE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, FURTHER WE HAVE NOTED THAT THE BUILDING DOES INCORPORATE SEVERAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, INCLUDING TAPERED COLUMNS, DECORATIVE SCREENING, AND CURVE SLAB EDGES THAT SU SUBTLY

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RECALL THE PREDOMINANT POST OR MODERN OR MIMO ARCHITECTURE WITHIN THE NORTH SHORE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, WE HAVE TWO VERY MINOR CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED IN OUR RECOMMENDED, UH, CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER.

UM, ONE IS WE DO BELIEVE THERE'S AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF PAVING, UM, IN BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE YARDS.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE SOUTHERN WALKWAY, UM, BE EITHER REDUCED OR ELIMINATED TO BE REPLACED WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD SERVE TO MITIGATE LIGHT AND SOUND FROM THE GROUND LEVEL PARKING AREA TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

UH, SECOND, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE, UH, TRASH SHOOT VENT STACK THAT PROJECTS ABOVE THE THIRD LEVEL DECK, UM, IS ADDING UNNECESSARY HEIGHT, THE PERCEPTION OF THE UNNECESSARY HEIGHT AT LEAST.

UM, AND WE ARE ACT ASKING THAT THAT BE, UM, SCREENED THAT IT, SO IT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL VOCABULARY.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S KIND OF DESIGNED AS A UNIQUE DESIGN FEATURE THAT WE DON'T THINK, UM, IS AS COMPATIBLE AS IT COULD BE WITH THE REMAINING ARCHITECTURE.

SO WE ARE ASKING THAT TO BE, UM, FURTHER DEVELOPED AND, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO THAT AT A STAFF LEVEL WITH THE APPLICANT.

FINALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER.

THE WAIVER IS SPECIFIC TO THE HEIGHT OF THE PARKING LEVEL.

SO CURRENTLY THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF 12 FEET ABOVE BASE FLOOR ELEVATION PLUS ONE BE PROVIDED.

UM, THE BOARD, HOWEVER, MAY WAVE UP TO TWO FEET, UM, OF THIS REQUIREMENT SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A 10 FOOT IS THE MINIMUM.

UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE APPLICANT IS ONLY ASKING FOR A ONE FOOT HEIGHT WAIVER.

UM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS HELPS ENSURE GREATER COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT LOW SCALE STRUCTURES OF THE DISTRICT AND ARE SUPPORTIVE.

UH, THE ONE VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE BY TWO FEET, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED DRIVEWAY OF 12 FEET, UM, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE DRIVEWAY OF, OF 10 FEET.

NOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS WITHIN A, AN OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES A MAXIMUM CURB CUT OF THE 10 FEET, UM, FURTHER.

SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT UNIQUE REGULATION WARRANTS, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE DRIVEWAY TO 10 FEET AS WELL.

FURTHER, THE, THE VERY SMALL NUMBER OF UNITS HERE, WE, YOU KNOW, FOUR UNITS.

WE DON'T, DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY SIGNIFICANT CONFLICT BY REDUCING THE DRIVEWAY BY TWO FEET.

IT ALSO HELPS REDUCE THE, THE HARDSCAPE PAVING FOR THE, FOR THE SITE.

SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, DRAFT ORDER.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DEBBIE.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DEBBIE ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT? NO.

NO.

YES.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST FOR PURPOSES OF HISTORICAL INFORMATION.

YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, THAT THE PREVIOUS BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED IN 2019 PRIOR TO THE DESIGNATION IN 2021.

I WAS LOOKING AT, IT LOOKS TO ME, TO MY LAY PERSON'S EYE THAT THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR IS OF SIMILAR CHARACTER.

SO JUST TO KIND OF DISCUSS IT, THAT EVEN IF IT WERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN PRESERVED ABSENT THIS, THAT THERE IS ANOTHER ONE OF LIKE KIND LITERALLY NEXT DOOR, RIGHT? YES.

IT'S A TWIN, UM, LIKE MANY OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE.

AND THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS, IS AN IDENTICAL TWIN OF THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING BUILDING ON THIS SITE.

AND, UH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE PAVING ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH.

WHEN YOU WERE TALKING IT, IS IT THAT, IS IT THE WALKWAYS THEMSELVES OR IS IT, UM, THE, LIKE THE, THE IMPERMEABILITY OF THE WALKWAYS? OR IS IT, UM, SHADE OR IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS THINK THAT UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH PER PERMEABLE PAVERS DO EXIST AND WE DO REQUIRE THEM, UM, IN MOST INSTANCES THAT NATURAL LANDSCAPING WITH NATURAL SOIL IS NOT ONLY THE MOST RESILIENT, BUT IN THIS CASE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, MM-HMM, , WE THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBOR TO HAVE NATURAL LANDSCAPING BECAUSE TO BUFFER THE PARKING AREA.

SO YOU, I SEE, WE DO THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR MULTIPLE REASONS AND THAT THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.

WE'RE NOT SURE, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED WITH THE ARCHITECT BACK AND FORTH, OBVIOUSLY ANY EGRESS PATHS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD NOT WANT TO ELIMINATE.

UM, BUT TO THE, TO THE EXTENT

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POSSIBLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME, SOME LANDSCAPE OFFER ALONG THAT EDGE.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

ALL YOURS? YES.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARDMAN STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

WI ME TODAY IS BOBBE IAN AND HIS FATHER HASSAN AMANI SITTING BEHIND ME.

THEY'RE THE APPLICANTS TODAY.

THE ARCHITECT IS EDUARDO PARDO FERNANDEZ AND MY COLLEAGUE, UH, BEN IS HERE WITH ME TODAY.

AS DEBBIE DESCRIBED TO YOU, THIS IS A THREE STORY, FOUR UNIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE OR CAN YOU PULL UP? SO THE PROPERTY LOCATION, IT'S A VACANT LOT ON THE WEST SIDE OF BYRON AVENUE, JUST NORTH OF 82ND STREET.

IT'S JUST UNDER 6,000 SQUARE FEET SIZE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN ARM ONE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.

IT'S ALSO PART OF THE TATUM WATERWAY EXPANSION.

I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE TATUM WATERWAY EXPANSION CAME UNDER SOME LITIGATION.

IT WAS AN ATTACK BY AN OWNER ON THE SOUTH END SAYING THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE 'CAUSE ALL THESE BUILDINGS ARE TOO LOW.

THANKFULLY THE COURTS DID NOT SEE IT THAT WAY AND SUSTAINED THE CITY'S DESIGNATION ATTEMPT.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY 'CAUSE YOU ALL CONTINUE TO HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE TN WATERWAY.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE THE CONTEXT PHOTOS.

YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT ANGLES FROM BYRON.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT ANGLES OF COURSE, FROM THE WATERWAY.

SEE IT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL LOT.

UM, AND WE HAVE A GREAT BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED BUILDING BY EDUARDO WHO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND LET HIM WALK YOU THROUGH HIS DESIGN.

THIS IS THE NEW PRESENTATION.

SWITCH IT.

SENATOR, WE NEED TO SWITCH THE PRESENTATION TO THE, ON THE PRESENTATION? ON THE PRESENTATION.

I, HEY, THAT'S NOT YET, BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO SWITCH IT TO THE OTHER PRESENTATION.

THEY NEED ANOTHER PRESENTATION.

YEAH.

APPARENTLY MY TECHNOLOGY IS, SORRY, WE'RE COMPLICATED LIKE THAT .

I STILL NEED HELP.

WHEN DID YOU SEND IN A REVISED PRESENTATION? FRIDAY.

YEAH, WELL THEY, I GOT A CALL FROM THE CITY STAFF.

YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, THIS, I GOT THIS ONE HERE.

YES.

ONE IS THAT THAT CORRECT? ONE? YEAH.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SWITCH BACK TO OURS.

ALRIGHT, SO MY NAME IS ARD ANTONIO PADO HERNANDEZ.

CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL? I'M THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLE OF CONTEMPORARY DESIGN, STUDIO REPUTATION AND PLAN.

I'M GONNA SPARE YOU, UM, MUCH ABOUT THE SITE 'CAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, IF ANYTHING, JUST MENTION HOW MUCH OF AN EXPANSIVE USE YOU GET, UH, TO THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTH ON WATERWAY.

UM, THE LOT ITSELF, YOU SEE THE CONTEXT WHERE YOU HAVE BUILDINGS FROM THE 1920S TO THE SEVENTIES, UH, FOR THE MOST PART DETACHED, UH, WITH OPEN FRONT YARDS.

THERE IS NO ENCLOSURE ON THE STREETS.

YOU HAVE THE WATERWAY AS THE PREDOMINANT, UH, FISURE IN THE BACK AND CRESPI BULL AROUND THE REST OF THE ISLAND.

AS THE BACKGROUND, YOU SEE THE UNTAPPED POTENTIAL FOR, UM, A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP TO THE WATER AND THE BOAT LIFESTYLE THAT IT AFFORDS.

AND YOU ALSO SEE HOW THE PREDOMINANT SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND TENDS TO BE FOUR TO FIVE STORIES.

FAIRLY COMPACT, RELATIVELY SIZABLE.

AND YET WHEN YOU GO TO THE MINUTIA OF THE, THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS IN THE CONTEXT, YOU SEE A PALETTE THAT TENDS TO BE WHITE OR IN LIGHT COLORS, BIG WINDOWS, PARTICULARLY IN THE FRONT AND BACK STOCK OF BANDS THAT SURROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING AND PROVIDE A CONTINUITY AND ELEMENTS LIKE THE CHIMNEY THAT STAND OUT IN THIS CASE, IN A TRADITIONAL MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED EXAMPLE, THIS OTHER BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THE PROMINENT ROOF PARAPET WITH THE ROUNDED CORNERS THAT DEFINES IT.

AND THE BALCONIES ARE THE MAIN ELEMENT WITH A VERTICAL DIVIDER THAT IS VERY POIGNANT AND IS REPEATED ALSO IN THE BACK AND IS FOR THE MOST PART A VERY, UH, SYMMETRICAL BUILDING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IS FAR MUCH MORE DYNAMIC GIVEN ITS SHEER HORIZONTALITY THAT IS EMPHASIZED NOT JUST BY THE TOCO BANDS, BUT ACTUALLY BY THE WRAPPING OVERHANGS WITH SOME EMPHASIS ABOVE THE ENTRANCE.

AND FINALLY THE BIG BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.

IT MANAGES TO BREAK ITSELF DOWN INTO SOMETHING MORE, UH, UM, PALATABLE FROM A SCALE STANDPOINT, YET STILL WITH A STRONG HORIZONTAL, A LEIF FOR THE BALCONIES BEING TREATED AS SUCH AS THESE CONTINUOUS BANDS WITH THE ROUNDED

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CORNERS FOR, FOR SOFTENING THEM UP.

AND ALL OF THESE ARE SYNTACTIC ELEMENTS, MANY OF WHICH DERIVE IN MOST EXAMPLES FROM THE LOCAL MIMO VERNACULAR, WHICH IS THE PREDOMINANT, UH, PREVALENT LANGUAGE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT LARGE, AND WHICH WE ARE TO TALK IF WE WANT TO SET UP A SUCCESSFUL DIALOGUE IN THE DESIGN, THE NEW BUILDING.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE GET THE SUCCESSIVE REQUIREMENTS OF ALL THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AS THEY SUPERSEDE AND OF OVER IMPOSE OVER EACH OTHER AND PUSH THE DESIGN DECISIONS WITHIN THE TIGHT ENVELOPE OF THE LOT.

YOU SEE THE RED LINES BEING THE SETBACKS FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF WITH THE BLUE ONE FOR PARKING THAT LUCKILY IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, IT'S JUST WIDE.

THERE ARE ALSO WHEEL ROOM TO MAKE THE PARKING JUST ENOUGH TO, TO FIT IN.

AND, UH, YOU HAVE THIS 10 FOOT WIDE CORRIDOR ON ONE ON, ON ONE SIDE THAT IS MEANT TO PRESERVE VIEWS TOWARDS THE WATERFRONT AND THE FRONT SETBACK THAT STEPS BACK AS YOU GO OVER THE 32 FOOT HEIGHT.

AND, UH, THAT'S MEANT PRECISELY TO KEEP THE, UH, ROOF ACCESS THERE BULKHEAD, UH, OUT OF SIDE FROM ACROSS THE STREET AND ALSO THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING.

ONCE YOU ARE ABOVE THAT HEIGHT, YOU HAVE ON TOP OF THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPED AREA JUST OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED YARDS AND EQUIVALENT TO AT LEAST, UH, 5% OF THE NET LOT AREA.

ALL OF THIS SUCCESS REQUIREMENTS ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE TO ENGAGE, UH, DRIVE THE DESIGN OF THIS NEW PROPOSED, UH, FOUR DWELLING UNIT, APARTMENT BUILDING, WHICH IS DETACHED, WHICH KEEPS THE FRONT YARD OPEN JUST LIKE ITS NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS VERY VELT AND LONG WITH THIS HORIZONTALITY THAT IS ALSO DEFINED BY THE WRAPPING OVERHANGS, THE TIPS OF WHICH GET PULLED TO THE FRONT AND BACK JUST ENOUGH TO BREAK WITH A OTHERWISE STALE.

A SIMPLE, RIGID VOLUME OF A MASSING THAT TRIES TO OPTIMIZE THE USE OF THE VARIOUS SCARS, UH, FLOOR AREA THAT IS ALLOWED BY THE FAR.

AND, UH, YOU HAVE THE, THE STAIR AS THIS ANCHORING SUPPORTING ELEMENT THAT, UH, CONFERS AND OVERARCHING SYMMETRY TO THE WHOLE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE THE TAPER COLUMNS AT THE CORNER, WHICH ARE MEANT TO PROVIDE SOME MOVEMENT VERTICALLY TO THE EYE AS IT CONTRASTS OR COMPLIMENTS THE HORIZONTALITY TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING FEELING TOO LONG.

AND ALSO TO TREAT THE CORONAS IN SUCH A FASHION THAT THEY DON'T FEEL BOXY AGAIN, IN WHAT IS A VERY SIMPLE GEOMETRY.

THE THIRD FLOOR'S MEZZANINE IS WHAT PULLS BACK, UH, TO KEEP WITH THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SLIVER OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT COULDN'T BE PUSHED FARTHER BACK.

THAT IS SHAPED AS SAY, THE CORRELATIVE ELEMENT AND THE CHIMNEY IN ONE MORE POINT OF VISUAL CONNECTION TO THE PREEXISTING CHIMNEY OF THE SMALL BUILDING TO THE LEFT.

AND THIS PROPOSAL DEALS WITH THE DICHOTOMY OF HAVING A BUILDING THAT HAS ITS ACCESS SEQUENCE FROM THE STREET, FROM THE FRONT, AND YET IT IS FULLY FOCUSED ON THE WATERFRONT FOR SEVERAL REASONS IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, IT'S THE LIVELIEST, UH, UH, FRONTAGE OUT OF THE TWO.

UH, WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE, AS I SAID, THIS INTERACTION WITH THE, THE NAUTICAL AND WATER LIFESTYLE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF MIAMI BEACH AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LIVING ROOMS AND ALL THE SOCIAL SPACES HERE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO NOTICE HOW YOU SEE THE BUILDING IN THE CONTEXT OF, UH, THIS BRAND NEW NEIGHBORS AND, UH, HOW WELL IT FITS IN TERMS OF SCALE.

GOING BACK TO THE FRONT, WE HAVE THIS STAIR SCREEN THAT OPENS UP SO IT IS FULLY VISIBLE FROM THE SIDEWALK AS YOU APPROACH IT ON THE WAY TO THE ELEVATOR BEFORE GETTING TO THE ELEVATOR, AS IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND THEN IT CLOSES AND WRAPS AROUND THIS ELEMENT FOR FURTHER EMPHASIS.

THE LOBBY IS PUSHED BACK TO ZILLOW, LEE GUARD, PRECIOUS SQUARE FEET, AND ALSO TO USE THIS SPACE IN FRONT AS, UH, A LOCATION FOR ACCESSIBLE AMOUNT OF THE EXTRA GREEN SPACE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE WITHIN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

THE PARKING GARAGE, JUST FOLLOW SUIT ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR THE SAKE OF EMPHASIS.

NOTICE AS WELL HOW THE WINDOWS ON THE SIDE CONCENTRATE TOWARDS THE FRONT AND THE BACK AT THE CORNERS.

SO YOU MAXIMIZE ANGLE VIEWS OUT AND THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF THEM, THE WHOLE OPENING AREA COMES LIMITED

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BY THE FIRE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.

NOTICE AS WELL HOW THE, THE TOP OF THE BUILDING JUST FREEZES BACK, UH, AS REQUIRED.

AND AGAIN, THIS CAPABILITY TO RAISE AN OPEN OR OTHERWISE FLATTENING AND CLOSE THIS VERSATILITY IS WHAT MAKES THIS ELEMENT OF THE SCREEN IDEAL FOR THIS BUILDING IN THE SENSE THAT IT CAN MORPH FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT USES THAT WE NEED THROUGHOUT IT AND JUST CONVEY A UNITY OF DESIGN COHERENCE WHEN SEEING THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE.

FOR EXAMPLE, HERE, WHEN WE MASK THE PARKING, MECHANICAL PARKING AND WE HAVE TO SAVE, UH, CONSUME VALUABLE INCHES AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS FLAT AS POSSIBLE WITH AN ALMOST FABRIC LIKE QUALITY AS IT IS INTERWOVEN JUST ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THE SCREENING THAT IS REQUIRED.

NOTICE HOW THE SITE IS SO TIGHT THAT EVEN THE ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE HAS TO PARTIALLY SPILL OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

AND THAT'S WHY THE SCREEN IS NOT HAPPENING AT THE LEVEL OF THE EXTERIOR FACADE JUST BECAUSE, UH, THERE IS NO SPACE.

LUCKILY, THE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE UH, PARKING SET IS A LITTLE BIT MORE GENEROUS.

AND THEN IN THE BACK YOU SEE HOW THE BALCONIES ARE ROUNDED UP TO, UH, SET UP ANOTHER DIALOGUE WITH THE, THE CROWN OF THE BUILDING TO THE LEFT AND ALSO THE BALCONIES OF THE BUILDING TO THE RIGHT.

AND WE KEEP THIS VERTICAL DIVIDER AS ANOTHER CONNECTING ELEMENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED? TWO MORE MINUTES.

TWO MORE MINUTES.

THERE'LL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH.

TWO MORE.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

AND AGAIN, THE FLOOR PLAN, THE SIDEWALK TO, OR THE WALKWAY TO THE SOUTH, YOU SEE THAT A PORTION OF IT HAS TO BE THERE FOR THE ACCESSIBLE AISLE NEXT TO THE PARKING SPACE.

IT ALSO PROVIDES THE RAMP THAT PROVIDES THAT, THAT GUEST OUTS THE, THE, THE ACCESSIBLE ROUTE.

AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, I GET ON THAT LATER.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.

JUST THE AXONOMETRIC FLOOR PLANS.

YOU SEE ONE TYPICAL, UH, UNIT ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AGAIN, LIVING IN THE FRONT BEDROOMS, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, LIVING IN THE BACK BEDROOMS IN THE FRONT.

SAME FOR THE THIRD FLOOR.

JUST THE BEDROOMS ARE SHOVED TO, TO ONE SIDE TO GET A LITTLE STAIR TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE MEZZANINE WHERE THE ACTUAL MASTER BEDROOM IS OVERLOOKING THE MASSIVE, UH, TALL 22 FOOT HIGH LIVING ROOM TO THE LEFT.

AND YET ACCESS TO THE ROOF FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE AIR CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT AND THE ROOF OF TERRACE AND THE VERY COMPACT RECESS, UH, PERGOLA AND ROOF ACCESS THAT PREVENTS IT FROM BEING SEEN ALL AROUND, UH, EITHER FROM THE ACROSS THE STREET OR OR ACROSS THE WATERWAY.

IF A R AND THEN OUR REQUESTS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, I BRING HERE ONE EXAMPLE OF THE BUILDING AREA 4 25 CRESTY THAT WE DESIGNED.

I COULD BRING YOU AT LEAST TWO OTHER, UH, PROJECTS THAT I'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ONCE YOU HAVE AN ACTIVATED USE IN THE BACK, THEY REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE MEANS OF EGS ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET.

SO I AGREE WITH THE CONCERN FROM STAFF THAT I WOULD PREFER TO SEE MORE LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDES, BUT I KNOW THIS WILL COME BACK TO, TO AND WE JUST TRY TO DEAL WITH IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OR, OR AS WELL AS POSSIBLE.

IF ANYTHING ACTS A COUNTERPOINT, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING THE WALKWAY ON THE SIDE MAKES SURE THAT THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF PRESERVING THE VIEWS TO THE WATER IS KEPT BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HAVE OUTGROWTH OF, UH, LANDSCAPE MATERIAL THAT WILL PREVENT THOSE VIEWS FROM ACTUALLY BEING PRESERVED.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU EDUARDO.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN DISCUSS IN DEPTH THE REQUEST FOR MECHANICAL PARKING, THE WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE UNDERSTORY AND THE VARIANCE FOR THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO I GUESS WE'LL GO TO, UH, BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? AMAZING.

BRIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ARCHITECT.

I'M SORRY.

MR. EDUARDO FERNANDEZ.

HEY, EDUARDO FERNANDEZ, UM, ON THE THANK, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UM, DESCRIPTION AND NARRATIVE ABOUT THE BUILDING AND THE, THE CONTEXT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

I'M CURIOUS, AND I PARTICULARLY LIKE IN THE FRONT, THE VERTI, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT VERTICAL SCREEN, UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THAT.

IN TERMS OF JUST FROM A MAINTENANCE POINT OF VIEW AND FROM LIKE A WATER POINT OF VIEW AND EVERYTHING, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? LIKE IN THE FRONT WITH WATER INTRUSION, IT WORKS AS WELL AS FISH SCALES DEAL WITH WATER WITH ANY FLUIDS INSIDE, EH, WHERE YOU HAVE THEM AS RIBBONS WITH AN ANGLE, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE FLAT AND THEY ARE NOT PERFECTLY VERTICAL, THEY STILL KEEP IT LITTLE BIT OF AN ANGLE PRECISELY FOR SHED WATER.

YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE EITHER CLEAR ANODIZED SO THEY, THE COEFFICIENT OF FRICTION IS VERY LITTLE.

SO IT, THE WATER SHEDS JUST BY GRAVITY IS HAPPEN.

YOU MAKE SURE NOT TO HAVE A VERY POROUS PAINT THAT WILL GET D UH, DIRT AND WATER TO BUILD UP INTO A CAKE.

OBVIOUSLY, AS WITH ANY OTHER BUILDING FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO SOME PRESSURE WASHING.

UH,

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BUT I FORESEE IT BEING VERY KIND FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT.

AND THEN ON THE, IN THE BACK, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I LOVE THE VERTICALITY IN THE FRONT AND I LOVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, WHEN, HOW YOU WERE DESCRIBING THE, THE OVERHANGS AND JUST KIND OF LIKE THE ANGULARITY OF THE BUILDING IS REALLY QUITE NICE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THE DIVIDER THAT DIVIDES THOSE TWO UNITS.

WAS THAT THE ONLY, WAS THAT THE ONLY SOLUTION THAT CAME UP FOR THAT? IT JUST FEELS, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING HONEST.

IT FEELS LIKE OUT OF KIND OF NOT LIKE, LIKE IT LOOKS OUTTA TOUCH FOR YOUR WHOLE DESIGN.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WHY YOU SHOW YOU TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING .

SO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE SITE IS VERY TIGHT AND, UH, WE TRICK THE EYE A LITTLE BIT IN MAKING THE ROOMS LOOK WIDER THAN IT IS.

BUT IF YOU DO A QUICK MATH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LOT IS 50 FEET WIDE.

YOU TAKE 10 FEET AWAY ON THE SOUTH YOU TAKE SEVEN AND A HALF ON THE NORTH.

THE WHOLE BUILDING IS LIKE 30, 35 FEET WIDE.

WHEN YOU DIVIDE THAT IN HALF FOR A, EVERY APARTMENT THAT IS SHARING ONE HALF OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 17 FEET OR SOMETHING OF JUST FOR THESE LIVING ROOMS AND SUCH.

SO IT MAKES IT VERY, VERY HARD BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT, YOU WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS SIZABLE, BULKY, MASCULINE ENOUGH, SO YOU DON'T COMMIT THE SCENE OF BEING HALFWAY THROUGH.

IT WORKS IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THE STA HAS A CERTAIN HEFTINESS TO IT IN THE BACK.

YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE, MAXIMIZE VIEWS FROM THE INSIDE BECAUSE PRECISELY WE ARE ENGAGED IN THE WATER.

AND WE ALSO WANTED TO HAVE ONE ELEMENT THAT IS STILL THE SAME LANGUAGE MIND YOU, IS THE SAME SCREEN WITH THE FLATTENING PORTION OF IT.

SO WHEN YOU SEE FOR AN ANGLE NOT AS FRONT AS HERE, YOU STILL SEE THE VISUAL CONNECTION, BUT ALSO IT'S A DEFERENCE TO THE LOCAL LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS NOT THE KINGS ENGLISH, BUT IT'S A VERY DISTINCT, UH, DISTINCTIVE, UH, UH, DIALECT SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE JUST TOTALLY, UH, IGNORANT OF.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INTEGRATE IN A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A LANDMARK YET, DOESN'T MIND BEING INTERESTING ENOUGH AND, AND MODERN ENOUGH AS WELL.

IS IT, IS THAT LINE THE SAME ANGLE THROUGHOUT? YES SIR.

OR IS IT DIRECTLY STRAIGHT SIR? YES SIR.

AND IT JUST TURNS ON AT THE TOP IN BETWEEN THE LITTLE PLANTERS YOU SEE THERE AS THE DIVISION BETWEEN THE PRIVATE ROOFTOP TERRACES AS WELL.

SO IT, IT FEELS LIKE A WHOLE FIN.

SO WHEN SEEING AN ANGLE AND FARTHER AFAR, THE THE ADDITION, THE VERTICAL ADDITION OF THE PARKS GET RED AS A MUCH BIGGER ELEMENT THAT PROVIDES CONTINUITY AND SPLITS THE WHOLE THING HALF.

BUT, BUT IN OTHER WORDS, ON THE FIRST, ON THE FIRST FLOOR, IT'S THE SAME WIDTH THAN IT IS ON THE SECOND AND THE THIRD.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE HAVE THIS PORTION, THE BACK, I MEAN, I DIDN'T DELVE MUCH INTO THE FLOOR PLAN BECAUSE OF TIME OBVIOUSLY, BUT A, WE AIM TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT TO MASK THE PARKING FROM THE, THE WATERWAY, WHICH IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT AS THE STREET IF IF NOT MORE.

AND, UH, IN TERMS OF USAGE, I SAY, WELL, LET'S HAVE A PROPER OUTDOOR SPACE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE, THE FOLKS ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVATE ROOF TO TERRACES FOR THEIR OWN EXPANSION AND, AND UH, AND OUTDOOR LIVING.

SO THEY CAN JUST BRING FRIENDS AND, AND HAVE A SPACE WITH A LITTLE RESTROOM, WITH A POOL, UH, WITH ACCESS TO THE, THE ACTUAL NEW DOCK, WHICH IS VERY LIVABLE AND ENJOYABLE.

'CAUSE THAT'S ONE THING WITH MIAMI VISION WE WANT TO MAKE USE THAT THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE WE HAVE, WHICH IS OUR WATERFRONT IS USED FOR PUBLIC USES IN THOSE CASES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT EVEN IF IT IS FOR PRIVATE USE THAT IS NOT JUST IGNORE AND THE BUILDINGS JUST GIVE THE BACK TO THE WATER AND UH, AND UH, IT'S A, IT'S A SORRY THING TO SEE.

WE WANT TO MAKE GOOD USE OF IT.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT CAN YOU PULL UP THE GROUND FLOOR PLAN PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.

WELL THIS IS NOT MY PRESENTATION, BUT UH, I'M SURE THERE IS A FOOTPRINT HERE.

YOU HAVE, OKAY.

CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE ALL THE, ALL THE GATES WILL BE IN THE, IN THE PROPERTY? SO GATES FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND GATES FOR CAR ACCESS.

THERE IS ONE, ONE GATE HERE.

OKAY.

AND ANOTHER GATE HERE BECAUSE IN OUR READING AGAIN OF TYPOLOGY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DO, WE NOTICE THAT OBVIOUSLY GIVEN THE SETBACKS THAT PREVAIL IN THIS ZONING IN THIS AREA, ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE DETACHED.

BUT UNLIKE SOME OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE YOU SEE A CONTINUOUS FENCE ON THE FRONT AND THE FRONT YARD IS PRIVATIZED, WE NOTICE

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THAT ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS HAVE A SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE THAT WORKS AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE FULLY PUBLIC RIAL OF THE STREET TO THE FULLY PRIVATE RIAL OF THE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

AND WE WANTED TO PRESERVE THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ODD BALL THE FENCES THING.

AND THIS IS NINE AND SCREW YOU UNDERSTOOD.

BUT CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THOSE CASE WILL BE MADE OF AND WHERE YOU SHOW THE SAME, THE VERY SAME TREATMENT IF YOU SEE IT'S THE SAME? YES SIR.

SEE IF YOU SEE THE ELEVATIONS, LET'S SEE IF THEY SHOW UP HERE SOMEWHERE.

IT'S THAT, THAT MATERIAL.

YES.

AND IT'S OPEN AS IN DAY.

WELL HERE IN THIS RENDERING YOU GET TO SEE A LIVER OF IT.

I, YEAH, IT DIDN'T LOOK THE SAME.

THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING.

UM, WHAT, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE MATERIAL IS? BOTH ON THE, ON THE, YES.

AGAIN, THESE ARE A ALUMINUM WRINKLES.

THE ALUMINUM, YES.

NOT STILL.

'CAUSE STILL WE KNOW IT'S CLOSE TO THE WATER.

NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU TREAT IT, IT'S GONNA RUST FAIRLY FAST.

SO THESE ARE ALUMINUM RIBBONS, UH, INTERWOVEN THAT, UH, WE EITHER OPEN UP A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT.

WE PRONOUNCE THE SCALES WHERE WE WANT VISUALS TO GO THROUGH US IN THE CASE OF THE STAIR AND I UNDERSTAND THE FENCES OR OTHERWISE WE FLATTEN THEM.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SIZE.

I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT.

CAN YOU ALSO POINT OUT WHERE YOU SHOW THE GATE FOR THE GARAGE? YES.

UM, LET'S SEE IF YOU HAVE AN ELEVATION HERE, WHICH IS A ROLLUP GATE MATCHING IN COLOR, BUT NOT IN IN TREATMENT WITH THIS.

IT IT'S WHAT? I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT.

IT'S A ROLLUP ROLLUP GATE.

OH, IT'S A ROLLUP GATE.

YES.

OH, OKAY.

AND YOU SEE IT HERE.

SAME FOR THE TRASH AS WELL.

WE MANAGED TO, IS IS IT JUST TO THE, IS IT JUST OUTSIDE THE TRASH ROOM THERE? YES.

THOSE TWO PARALLEL, I MEAN PERPENDICULAR TO EACH OTHER, THEY HAVE THE SAME TREATMENT.

THEY'RE ALIGNED AT THE TOP.

OKAY.

THE ELEVATIONS SHOW IT PROBABLY IN THE PACKAGE YOU HAVE, UH, OF THE ACTUAL PLANS FOR THE SUBMITTAL.

'CAUSE WE CHOSE THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE WORTH, UH, HIGHLIGHTING IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN THERE.

GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT, YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, ELIZABETH, PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S, HOW THICK IS THIS ALUMINUM MESH OR THE ACTUAL PLATE? IT, I FORESEE IT BEING ABOUT ONE EIGHTH OF AN INCH WHEN ALL THE FINS ARE CLOSED.

AND THEN AS YOU OPEN TO GET SOME DIMENSION, WELL THE ACTUAL STRIP, WHEN THE THE THINGS ARE CLOSED, IT MIGHT BE ABOUT ONE INCH WHEN THEY ARE OPENING, IT MIGHT GROW UP TO THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR INCHES AT MOST.

SO IN YOUR DRAWINGS YOU SHOW LIKE THIS MEMBRANE FLOATING IN SPACE, THAT'S WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE YOU NEED TO KEEP IT THERE.

AND THEN HOW BIG IS HOW OFTEN YOU NEED THOSE STRUCTURES? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL DISTURB SOME OF THE LIGHTNESS OF WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE.

YES, WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO GET A, AN ACTUAL SHARP GROWING DOME.

UM, WE FORESEE THIS BEING TENDONS THAT STRATEGICALLY, PARTICULARLY AT THE CORNERS WHERE WE ARE SOLID AND THEN HAVE THE SHEER, UH, STRENGTH OF THE MATERIAL ALLOW IT TO BY BEING INTERWOVEN AND, AND BITING ONE SLIDE INTO THE OTHER TO CAN'T DELIVER FROM ONE SIZE SUPPORT TO THE OTHER, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VERTICAL STRUTS ARE AS LEAST VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE.

SAME AS IN THE CASE FOR THE, THE PARKING GARAGE WHERE THERE IS A TWO BY TWO STEEL ELEMENT IN THE FRONT.

AND THEN THERE ARE RODS MEANT TO BE INTERWOVEN IN THE FLAT SECTION AS WELL, BUT THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE DETAILED AND SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF STUFF.

IS THAT, IS THERE A ROOF OVER THAT OR THE ROOF STOPS AT THE GLAZING OF THE STAIRCASE? THEY, WELL, THERE IS NO GLAZING OTHER THAN THE, THE GUARD AT, UH, AT, AT THE 42 INCH HIGH HEIGHT.

BUT NO, IT'S FULLY OPEN IN THAT SENSE.

WHAT YOU SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT HERE IN THE, THE SLIDE THAT I'M SEEING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE TO, UM, IS EVERYTHING THAT IS WHITE THAT IS USED TO THE RIGHT OF IT IS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS IN THE FRONT AND BACK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LINDSEY? YES, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, SO YOU DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT THE UNITS ARE SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE ESSENTIALLY, SO ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE, THE ROOFTOP TERRACE, UM, AVAILABLE TO THE TWO STORY UNITS THAT'S NOT SHARED, RIGHT? THAT IS SEPARATE SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO UNITS, SEPARATE SPACE.

HOPEFULLY THEY GET TO GET ALONG FAIRLY WELL WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S OPEN.

THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.

WELL, THERE IS A, THERE IS A DIVIDER 42 INCHES HIGH TO KEEP THE, THE ELEVATION OF THE PERIMETER, UM, GUARD.

AND WE FORESEE PLANTER BOXES ON TOP.

WE HATE TO DO BUILT-IN PLANTERS BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU BUILD THEM, THEY EVENTUALLY LEAK.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I JUST TIES DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS ALIKE FOR THEM AND UH, TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE WE

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WANT TREES, WE JUST PROVIDE STANDALONE, UH, PLANTERS ADDED LATER THAT CAN DRAIN ONTO THE ROOFING WATER IMPROVEMENT BRAIN OR, OR ROOFING SYSTEM AND DRAIN JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WATER FALLING ON IT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, AND I THINK IT'S JUST A, A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE ON ONE OF THEIR RENDERINGS.

THE, THE SEA WALL HEIGHT, IS IT THE SAME AS BOTH NEIGHBORING SITES? NO, WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHAT NEW SEA WALL HEIGHT WE ARE TO PROVIDE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT SO GOOD CONDITION.

PRACTICE SEVERAL SPOTS AND WE HAVE TO REBUILD IT.

AND THEY GAVE US THE EXACT HEIGHT THAT THEY, THEY WANT US TO, TO HAVE, WHICH ACTUALLY I HAD THE DESIGN FOR A LOWER HEIGHT AND WE HAD TO RETOOL IT AND, AND RAMP UP SLIGHTLY TO GO UP TO THE MARINA.

SO HOW DOES THE PROPOSED SEA WALL HEIGHT, HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT.

THE RENDERING, IT LOOKS THE SAME.

I WASN'T SURE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING CLOSER IN INTENT, YOU MIGHT SEE THERE IS PROBABLY ABOUT A FOOT HIGHER.

YEAH.

I MEAN I'M JUST UN BALLING IT HERE, BUT I, I RECALL 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACTION ON THE SIDE.

THANK YOU.

I WAS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ONE WHERE IT LOOKS MUCH CLOSER, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

NO WORRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, WE WILL NOW HAVE BOARD DISCLOSURES IF THERE ARE ANY NO, NO, BRIAN, NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

AND THEN OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT ON ZOOM WE HAVE, UH, JIM NOBLE.

HI JIM.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, UM, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT, UH, MR. FERN FERNANDEZ.

UH, THAT'S AN EXCITING, UH, PROJECT.

THERE'S, AND, AND, AND LET ME, I GUESS I SHOULD INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I'M AN OWNER IN THE ADJOINING PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE AT 82 50, UH, UH, BYRON AVENUE, UH, THE BYRON WATERVIEW CONDOMINIUM.

UM, AND, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO MENTION, UH, TO POSSIBLY A, A, A ADDRESS.

UM, ONE IS, UH, UM, AS AN OWNER IN THE, UM, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF, OF THAT BUILDING OF THE ADJOINING BUILDING TO THE NORTH, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO HAVE SEEN A, A, A LARGER SETBACK ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, THAN, THAN THIS BUILD.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING SEEMS TO HAVE THE LARGEST SETBACK ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I PREFER JUST FOR SIGHT LINES AND TO MAINTAIN, UM, SUNLIGHT.

UH, BECAUSE THIS BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE FOUR STORIES, IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF OUR FIVE STORY BUILDING.

AND BECAUSE IT HAS OBVIOUSLY TALLER CEILING HEIGHTS.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING THE, THE, UH, SUNLIGHT ON OUR, ON OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SUNSHINE.

UM, THE, UH, I'D ALSO, UH, SUGGEST FOR CONSIDERATION THAT BOTH FROM A MARKETABILITY THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ALSO IMPROVE OUR SIGHT LINES AND ALSO PERHAPS ENHANCE MARKETABILITY OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TO, UH, HAVE THE BALCONIES TO, UH, THE FOURTH, THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.

NOT PUSHED ALL THE WAY, UH, FOCUSED ON THE, ON THE CANAL, BUT, BUT, AND IT IS, IT'S DRAMATICALLY SET BACK FROM BYRON AVENUE, BUT, BUT, BUT ALL THE WAY AGAINST THE CANAL.

BUT, BUT POSITIONED IT IN THE MIDDLE CENTER IT, UH, TO THE EAST AND WEST SO THAT THERE'S BALCONIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING THAT WOULD HELP PRESERVE SIGHT LINES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

ONE OF THE THINGS OF PARTICULAR VALUE TO ME IS OUR SIGHT LINE OF THE CANAL THAT WOULD BE PARTIALLY BLOCKED BY THE, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING IS ALWAY ALRE IS PUSHED BACK AS FAR TO THE WEST AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, AND THE LAST THING IS TO MAKE THE APPLICANT AWARE OF POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.

THE BYRON WATERVIEW CONDOMINIUM HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY MAINTAINED, AND WE DON'T WANNA SEE ANY ISSUES THAT THAT MAY HAVE ARISEN AT CHAMPLAIN TOWER SOUTH, UM, BECAUSE OF THE ADJOINING CONSTRUCTION, UH, THERE'S, THEY SHOULD, BEFORE THEY DID ANY PILE DRIVING OR ANY, ANY, ANY KIND OF MAJOR CONSTRUCTION TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY CHECK THE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, ADJOIN ON THE PROPERTY, ON OUR PROPERTY TO THE NORTH BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY IS, HAS NOT BEEN, IS EXTENSIVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY ISSUE ISSUES AS A RESULT OF, UH, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ADJOINING US.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S, LET'S TAKE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO THESE, UH, INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DANIEL ERALDO.

YES.

HI, DANIEL ERALDO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.

UM, WE SUPPORT THE PROJECTS SUBJECT TO THE SAP CONDITIONS.

THE NEW CONSTRUCTION APPEARS SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS WHEN REVIEWING THE DESIGN REGARDING THE CENTRAL ELEMENT OF THE FACADE, WHICH IS, UH, GRAY PAINT ALUMINUM.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO ALSO CONSIDER SOME ALTERNATIVES LIKE BREEZE BLOCK OR OTHER COMPATIBLE MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE MIMO DESIGN.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, SERVICE.

OKAY, THANK YOU DANIEL.

UH, MR. CHAIR.

I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE, UM, TO PUBLIC THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, MR. NOBLE PRESENTED? SURE.

UM, WE WILL CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO THAT CONDO ASSOCIATION IN CONNECTION WITH CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT ISSUES.

IT'S TOO BAD THAT THE BUILDING HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

I AM, I SHARE HIS CONCERN ABOUT IT GETTING WORSE AND EXACERBATED BY CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO LIVE WITH THEM.

UH, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO HIS LOSS OF VIEW, BUT YOU DON'T ENJOY A VIEW ACROSS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

UM, AND WITH REGARD TO DANIEL'S, UH, DESIGN SUGGESTION, I THINK WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ALUMINUM, BUT I'LL HAVE OUR ARCHITECT SPEAK TO DANIEL'S SUGGESTION, UM, ABOUT THAT.

WELL, FIRST I WANTED TO THANK, UH, MR. RUBBLE FOR HIS KIND WORDS AND, UM, TO AN EXTENT, UM, AT LEAST ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST STORY.

WE TRIED TO PUSH BACK AWAY FROM THE WATER A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE, THE USES THAT WE HAVE BACK THERE.

AND ALSO WE WERE CONSCIOUS OF, UH, OF VIEWS FROM, FROM THE BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AS YOU GO UP AGAIN, THE SITE IS SO TIGHT.

AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER FROM THE, THE FLOOR PLANS I SHOWED THAT WE HAVE TO USE EVERY SINGLE SQUARE FOOT AVAILABLE TO FIT THE ROOMS WITH WORKABLE DIMENSIONS.

THAT THE BEDROOM CANNOT BE ANY SMALLER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE SINK GOES FOR A KITCHEN AND THE, AND THE LIVING ROOM.

UH, AS A MATTER OF PROPERTY RIGHTS, YES, THE, I MEAN, YOU GET TO BUILD UP TO WHERE YOU CAN AND WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUY LAW.

AND TRYING TO BE AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE.

MY JOB IS TO TRY AND DESIGN AS GOOD A BUILDING AS POSSIBLE.

SO AT LEAST IT'S PLEASANT TO LOOK AT.

UM, THE, THE WIDER SURAK IN THE SOUTH WAS MORE THAN ANYTHING, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SUN THERE AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS TO SURVIVE, WE NEED SOME AS WELL.

UM, AS FAR AS MR. ALDO, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF MAURICE LAPUS WAS ALIVE AND KICKING TODAY, HE WOULDN'T MIND EXPERIMENTING WITHIN THE SAME VOCABULARY THAT HE USED BACK IN THE FIFTIES, AND HE WOULD'VE LOVED A TOY AROUND WITH, UH, THE TECHNICAL POSSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

YOU SEE, THAT'S THE THING WITH A LIVING TRADITION, THAT IT DOESN'T GET FROZEN IN TIME.

YOU HAVE ARCHITECTS LIKE KAMOZI, UH, BEING INSPIRED BY PALIO, PALIO BEING INSPIRED BY MICHELANGELO.

MICHELANGELO BEING INSPIRED BY BRAE AND LESKI.

YET AT THE SAME TIME YOU SEE A RECOGNIZABLE THREAD AS THEY KEEP ON BUILDING ON THE SAME TRADITION.

THE LOCAL VERNACULAR FOR MIAMI BEACH, OF COURSE, IS NOT CLASSICISM.

IT'S A FAIRLY NEW CITY, BUT WITHIN THAT VERNACULAR, THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR EXPLORATION, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT I WOULDN'T USE, UH, CONCRETE SCREENS AT ANY TIME.

IN FACT, I'VE USED THEM IN PRICE THAT I BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.

IS JUST THAT.

I THINK FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND FOR ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH OUR METAL SCREEN, THAT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, IS THE BEST SOLUTION THAT WE CAN USE.

THANK YOU, EDUARDO.

THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR BOARD MEMBER COMMENT.

ANYBODY WANT TO START? UH, NOT, NOT TO THE APPLICANT, JUST FOR OURSELVES, ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU, WHATEVER.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, MY ONLY QUESTION AND I FORGOT TO ASK IT, IS, IS THIS GONNA BE, UH, UH, AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR A CONDOMINIUM BUILDING? HUH? DON'T, DON'T, DON'T TALK QUESTION.

DON'T TALK.

JUST LET THEM TALK.

DO YOU WANT US TO RESPOND? MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAN RESPOND.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

APARTMENTS OR CONDOS? WE HAVEN'T DECIDED.

REALLY? UM, OH SIR, WE NEED YOU.

OH, TO THE MIC PLEASE.

YEAH.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GONNA BE ON THE SPOT, HUH? HASAN.

MY NAME IS HASAN, UH, WITH THE ONE OF THE OWNER

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OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO, UH, REVIEW THIS, UH, PLAN.

WE THANK YOU, UH, MIKE AND EDUARDO TO GREAT JOB, UH, TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS AREA THEY WERE WORKING ON IT.

UM, AS FAR AS CONDO OR APARTMENT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DECIDED, UM, BECAUSE WE PRIMARILY WE'RE GONNA BE RESIDING IN THIS BUILDING, SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, UM, A FEW FACTORS LIKE, AS YOU KNOW, HOW WE FINANCE IT, THE CONSTRUCTION AND SOME OF THE BANKS THEY HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY FAVOR ON ONE CLASS TO THE OTHER CLASS.

SO WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND AS FAR AS OUR DISCUSSION HERE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS IS I LOOK AT IT THIS AS BEING A REALLY CONTEMPORARY ART DECO BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THE TRADITION OF WHAT, UH, ART DECO WAS ALL ABOUT WITH THE ROUNDED CORNERS AND THE EYEBROWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I JUST THINK, UH, TODAY, SO MANY, UH, LOTS PEOPLE GOING AND JUST LIKE WANNA PUT IN A BIG, BIG BOX AND A LOT OF GLASS AND WHATEVER.

I LOOKED AT THIS AND FELT IT REALLY WAS BLENDING IN VERY WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, LAURA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING OR, SURE.

COME BACK TO YOU.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, THANK YOU.

UM, ON A, ON A DIFFICULT, UH, SITE 50 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS TYPICAL, BUT I THINK YOU'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZED THE, IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY AND IN A CONTEXTUAL WAY, UM, TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO OWNERSHIP FOR, UM, DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB.

THANKS.

YEAH.

I'LL ECHO, UM, MY COLLEAGUES.

IT'S REALLY THOUGHTFUL.

UH, I LOVE YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU REALLY, REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE AREA AND ABOUT INCORPORATING A LOT OF DETAILS AND, AND I THINK A LOT OF MOMENTS INTO THE BUILDING THAT THAT ONE WOULD REMEMBER IF THEY WALKED BY IT.

SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS.

THANKS.

I I LOVE THE, THE SCREEN.

I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A SKEPTIC WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND THAT, BUT YOU GAVE A VERY GOOD ANSWER ABOUT THE ANGLES AND ALL OF THAT MATERIAL.

I'M VERY OBSESSIVE ABOUT WHAT WE, WHAT I DO.

SO I'LL SEE IF I'M INVOLVED.

I, I CAN GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS HUMANELY POSSIBLE WILL BE DONE TO MAKE IT WORK AND LOOK LIKE IT IS IN THE RENDERS.

I HATE TO SEE BUILDINGS THAT ARE LET DOWN.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY THAT RENDERING OF THE SCREEN, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD.

AND YOU CAN, WE USE GOOD PEOPLE TO, TO DO OUR RENDERS.

SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU ELIZABETH.

YEAH, NO, I JUST ECHO THE COMPLIMENTS YOU RECEIVED FROM MY COLLEAGUES DOWN THE TABLE.

BUT I STILL, UM, I HAVE A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THIS ALUMINUM SCREEN.

I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL, UH, OF THE OUTCOME.

AND I AM MEAN I APPRECIATE YOUR VOUCHING YOUR FOOD EDUCATION TO MAKE IT WORK.

BUT I'VE SEEN LIKE OTHER ALUMINUM SCREENS IN OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE CITY AND WITH TIME AND THE WEATHER, THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT ALWAYS THERE AND SOMETIMES IT'S BEYOND MAINTENANCE AND YOU NEED TO REDO AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

RIGHT.

SO THERE IS A DETERIORATION THAT ENDS UP TAKING AWAY THE BEAUTY OF THE BUILDING.

UM, AND ALSO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ONCE YOU START ADDING THE STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE SCREEN STAND THERE, THE IMPACT OF THAT AND THE LACK OF MAYBE THE LIGHTNESS THAT WE SEE NOW IN THE RENDERING.

NO, WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT THE, THE AIR AIRY CHARACTER OF IT IS, UH, IS MAIN CHARM, IF YOU WILL.

SO WE'LL BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL AS TO HOW TO SUPPORT THE THING UNOBTRUSIVE WAY POSSIBLE.

WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN MIAMI BEACH FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF WHO WE ONLY HAVE EXCELLENT WORKS FOR.

WE COMMEND THE, THE TREMENDOUS WORK THAT THEY DO.

AND WE HAVE A VERY OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.

SO THEY, THEY ARE VERY CLEAR ABOUT MAKING THEMSELVES HEARD ABOUT THE THINGS THEY LIKE AND THEY LIKE NOT.

SO I, I TRUST THAT WE'LL GET TO SOMETHING THAT, THAT WORKS THROUGH THE BUILDING PREMIER APPROVAL PROCESS.

I, SO THEN, AND AS YOU GO AHEAD, DEVELOPING THE DETAILS FOR THAT, YES.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KEEP YOUR MIND OPEN TO OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THREE DIMENSIONAL I'VE SEEN SOME VERY PRETTY CERAMIC PERFORATED BOX THAT COULD BE BEAUTIFUL FOR HERE, AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT IS MUCH EASIER.

SO

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JUST KEEP THAT GOING IF THE, THE, THE SHAPES THE VISUAL QUALITY TO, TO IT WORK.

I AM MORE THAN OPEN TO IT.

I'M, I'M NOT COMMITTED.

I DON'T SELL ALUMINUM PIECES MYSELF, SO I DON'T HAVE A VEST INTEREST.

SO I JUST CARE ABOUT THE BUILDING WORKING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, LINDSEY.

HI.

OH, UM, SO I THINK FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO SAY I DO THINK YOU'VE DONE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL JOB DESIGNING THIS PROJECT.

AND, AND I THINK YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING FORTH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IN KEEPING WITH THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR AND THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, UM, BUT ALSO AN UPDATED, UM, VERSION OF THAT.

I, I WILL SAY, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA DETER ME FROM SUPPORTING YOU TODAY, BUT I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE, THE DRAWINGS, IT'S, UH, PICTURED IN, UH, CONTEXT WITH THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS FIVE STORIES.

BUT THAT ONE AND THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET AND LIKE AN OCCASIONAL ONE DOWN THE STREET IS OF THE SAME HEIGHT, BUT MOST OF THE OTHER ARE THE LOW RISE TWO STORY.

UM, SO GAVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE.

UM, I, I DUNNO, I JUST FELT THE NEED TO SAY THAT.

UM, I, UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ALUMINUM.

I WAS ASKING DEBBIE OVER HERE KIND OF IN A SIDEBAR.

I KNOW THERE'S A BUILDING SOUTH OF FIFTH, THE HOUSE, UM, WHERE THEY USE THE ALUMINUM SIDE, THE ALUMINUM LUS ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT.

UM, AS THEIR, UM, AS THEIR EXTERIOR AND KIND OF IN A NOD TO THE LOUVERED WINDOWS, UM, OF THE, UH, LIKE THE VERNACULAR STYLE I GUESS, UM, THAT WAS DOWN THERE.

UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE UPDATED INTERPRETATION YET, NOD TOWARDS THE, YOU KNOW, THE USE OF BREEZE BLOCK AND THE MIMO, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT FORTH.

IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS.

IF, IF ANYTHING, JUST TO FURTHER CONVEY WHAT INFORM THE DECISION, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALSO HAD THE 10 FOOT SETBACK ON THAT SIDE WAS TO PROVIDE FOR A TRANSITION, A TAPERING BETWEEN A LOWER BUILDING AND THE HIGHER.

BUT ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WHY THE LITTLE BUILDING WHEN THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT IN DETAIL, 'CAUSE I DRIVE THERE FROM TIME TO TIME, IT REMINDS YOU OF THE BEACH TOWN BUILDINGS YOU FIND IN PLACES LIKE IN ST.

PETE BEACH IN ST.

PETERBURG OR, OR IN THE FLORIDA KEYS.

THE THING WITH THOSE IS THAT THEY WERE THE PREVALENT BUILDING TYPES, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW, UH, UH, IN MIAMI, WHICH WHEN MIAMI, WHICH WAS LIKE ST.

PETE BEACH AND, AND THE FLORIDA KEYS DECADES AGO, AS IT BECOMES DENSER, INEVITABLY IT, THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS AND THE HEIGHTS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE APPROVED ZONING ORDINANCE, THEY MORPH.

I MEAN, EVEN PARIS WAS A VILLAGE AT SOME POINT, AND WE JUST TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITHIN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

I'M GONNA, UM, START MY COMMENTS WITH A QUESTION FOR YOU, DEBBIE, JUST TO SEE, UM, WHETHER WE, WHETHER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE, ON THE, THE VENT, THE TRASH VENT, IS IT, I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO BRING THAT, UM, THE SCREEN THAT'S ALREADY ON THE ROOF TERRACE TO KIND OF ENGAGE IT, IT WOULD MEAN MORE WAS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET OF THAT'S ON THAT FLOOR, ON THAT LEVEL, UH, THAN IS CURRENTLY THERE NOW.

BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALSO MEAN THE ELIMINATION OF THAT HORRIBLE, LIKE JUST KIND OF THING STICKING OUT.

SO IN AN OTHERWISE VERY NICE PROJECT.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST WE WANTED IT ELIMINATED, THEN WE REALIZED IT'S A TRASH SHOOT AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ABOVE THE ROOF, SO IT COULDN'T BE ELIMINATED.

RIGHT.

AND THEN WE WENT TO, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, WELL IF IT HAS TO BE THERE, THEN IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE VOCABULARY OF THE EXISTING OF THE DESIGN.

SO YES, OUR IDEA WAS POTENTIALLY MAYBE THAT SCREENED TO KIND OF WRAP IT.

MAYBE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DOES GET SLIGHTLY HEFTIER, WHICH I THINK MIGHT IN COMPOSITION WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING LOOK BETTER.

MAYBE IT'S NOT ROUND, MAYBE IT HAS A CURVE TO IT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF THIS ROUND ANOMALY, IT STICKS OUT.

IT JUST THE WHAT? THE VENT ITSELF OR THE UH, OR THE SCREENING OR THE SCREEN? YEAH, JUST THAT LITTLE ELEMENT.

YOU MEAN IT'S THE ALUMINUM MATERIAL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL YOU'RE USING DOWN ON THE, UH, WELL, YOU MIDDLE, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE GATES, BUT IT'S, IT, IT WAS HIGHER BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE WERE JUST TOYING WITH IDEA OF ACTUALLY EMPHASIZING THIS CHIMNEY TO TAKE SOMETHING FROM THE LITTLE BUILDING NEXT TO US, BUT THEN THEY CHASTISED US AND THEN WE JUST LOWERED IT TO AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITHIN THE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I I HAVE THIS INTERNAL DEBATE THAT YOU'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW THAT YES, IF YOU MASK IT, YOU MAKE IT MORE, YOU MAKE IT BULK, YOU'RE MORE VISIBLE VERSUS JUST LETTING IT BE WHAT IT IS

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AND, AND JUST KIND OF OUT OF SIGHT, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT US TO GO, WE, WE WILL PLAY WITH THAT.

I, I THINK BE GIVEN THE PROFILE OF YOUR BUILDING AND THE WAY IN WHICH YOU'RE EMPHASIZING, UM, THE KIND OF CORNERS, THE VOLUMES.

I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE, THAT THE FENCE ABOUT THAT IT, THAT THE FENCE EMBRACES IT, EMBRACES IT AND IT GOES BEHIND THE FENCE.

PERHAPS A SPEED DOWN VERSION OF WHAT THE STAIRS IS DOING FARTHER DOWN.

RIGHT.

I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE CASE.

I WOULD ALSO, UM, RECOMMEND THAT THE, UM, THAT YOU LOOK AT CERAMIC, UH, AT CERAMIC TILES FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS CENTRAL FEATURE, UM, THIS SCREEN.

BECAUSE THERE ARE, I AGREE WITH ELIZABETH, THERE ARE SOME REALLY, REALLY NICE PRODUCTS OUT THERE.

AND, UM, TO GET SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS WITH AS LITTLE STRUCTURE AS YOU'VE INDICATED IT SHOULD HAVE, UM, IS GONNA BE CHALLENGING.

PRETTY, PRETTY IMPOSSIBLE.

NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

SO IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT WE LOVE A CHALLENGE.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UM, AND THEN I WAS JUST NOTICING ON THE ROOFTOP YOU HAVE JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GREEN.

IS THERE A, IS THERE A PLANTER AT THE, AT THE TOP OF THAT, OF THAT METAL SCREEN? THERE IS A PLANTER A FARTHER BACK ON TOP OF THE STAIRS, BASICALLY, OR A SERIES OF PLANTERS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SCREEN FOR PRIVACY BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, PORTIONS OF THE ROOF OF THE FRONT THAT ACT AS PRIVATE TERRACES TO THE MASTER BEDROOMS. OKAY.

GOT IT.

DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER BETWEEN THE TWO TERRACES, THE PRIVATE TERRACES WITH THE UNITS.

CORRECT, YES.

OKAY.

IT'S JUST THAT SOME PEAKS UP OVER THE, OVER THE TOP.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, AND I THINK I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, PROBLEM WITH THE, PERSONALLY WITH THE WAIVER OR WITH THE, THE VARIANCE.

UM, SO I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION THAT FOR THE, UM, TO YOU AND FOR OUR COLLEAGUES.

AND, UH, YEAH, SO WITH THAT WE'LL NEED, UM, WE WILL NEED TWO VOTES.

WE'LL NEED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UM, AND, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GET ONE, UM, MAYBE ONE, UH, UM, IF SOMEBODY COULD, UM, A MOTION, A MOTION THAT WOULD MAYBE ENGAGE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS ABOUT THE ROOF OR, OR THE, THE ROOFTOP, UM, AND POSSIBLY EXPLORING SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OTHER MATERIALS FOR THAT, FOR THE SCREEN IN THE FRONT.

UM, SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, IF LIKE TO MOVE THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO GET THAT MOTION.

UM, , I CAN GIVE IT A TRY, BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT.

OKAY.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED DESIGN, UH, INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND THE FURTHER STUDY OF, UH, INCORPORATING THE TRASH STACK INTO THE DESIGN OF THE METAL SCREEN ON THE ROOFTOP AND EXPLORE CERAMIC TILE IS A OH, AND THEN EXPLORING ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS FOR THE SCREENING OF THE STAIRS, SUCH AS PERFORATED CERAMIC ELEMENTS.

YES, WE AGREE.

SUBJECT TO STAIRS.

ALWAYS SECOND.

I I'LL SECOND IT.

SECOND.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET ME CALL THE ROLE.

MR. ERLICH? YES.

MS. WEINSTEIN BERMAN.

YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

MS. LOVELL? YES.

MS. CAR.

MARGO? YES.

MR. ER.

MR. STEWART? YES.

OKAY.

THAT PASSES.

AND THEN WE NEED A SECOND MOTION FOR THE, UH, VARIANCE.

THE DRIVEWAY VARIANCE.

I, I'LL MOVE THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE VARIANCE FROM, IS IT 12 FEET TO 10 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SECOND.

OKAY.

LET ME CALL THE ROLE.

MS. WEINSTEIN BERMAN.

YES.

MR. BRESLIN? YES.

MS. CARGO? YES.

MR. EHRLICH? YES.

MS. LOVELL? YES.

MR. STEWART? YES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

YOUR KIND WORDS.

NICE PROJECT.

OKAY, MR. CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE REGULAR AGENDA.

I, WE DO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ITEM,

[6. Update: 1436 Pennsylvania Avenue – Miami Dade County Schools demolition. ]

UM, WHERE WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AT THE OCTOBER MEETING.

UM, THE BOARD UPDATED THE BOARD WITH REGARD TO, I MEAN, STAFF UPDATED THE BOARD WITH REGARD TO 1436 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.

THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE ROSE COTTAGE.

IT IS A BUILDING, UM, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN

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THE ESPANOLA WAY HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT'S OWNED BY THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

AT THE OCTOBER, UH, MEETING, THE UM, BOARD DID PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, INCLUDING, UH, REQUESTING THAT THE DEMOLITION BE DELAYED, UH, IN ORDER TO ALLOW TIME TO FULLY DOCUMENT THE BUILDING BOARD ALSO REQUESTED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING AND THE, THE SCHOOL BOARD'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE EXTENDED AN INVITATION TO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER STAFF AS WELL AS SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.

UM, WE GAVE THEM THE ZOOM INFORMATION, UM, AND THE IN-PERSON INFORMATION, UH, WE DID HEAR BACK THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE RECEIPT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, WHILE WE'VE MET INTERNALLY TO DISCUSS, UM, THE STEPS FORWARD, WE HAVE TRIED TO SET UP A MEETING WHERE A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD STAFF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ATTEND A MEETING.

UM, SO FAR WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

UM, AS FAR AS THE SITE, I KNOW JAKE'S BEEN BY THE SITE SEVERAL TIMES.

THERE'S NOT A TON OF ACTIVITY, AT LEAST AS OF LAST, LATE LAST WEEK.

THERE WASN'T OTHER THAN FENCING.

AND THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO, WHAT IS IT, JAKE, REMOVING THE PORTION OF THE TREE.

LIKE THERE'S KIND OF A TREE THAT'S IMPACTING THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

UM, AND SO THAT'S OUR UPDATE.

WE DID, HOWEVER, JAKE AND I WERE PLAYING DETECTIVE, AND WE DID FIND SOME REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION FROM A 1955 MIAMI HERALD ARTICLE.

UM, THIS ARTICLE, UM, SAYS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD ACTUALLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IN 1954 FOR A UM, AMOUNT OF $17,766 AND 50 CENTS .

SO I KNOW THAT HAD COME UP BEFORE.

HOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS, HOW LONG HAS THE SCHOOL BOARD OWNED THIS? WHEN, YOU KNOW, DID THEY BUY IT? WAS IT A DONATION? WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ARTICLE IS ACCURATE AND THEY PURCHASED IT FOR, FOR JUST UNDER $18,000 IN 1954.

DID DO WHAT TO VISIT? UM, THEY DID NOT, THE ARTICLE DID NOT SAY, UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN USED, UM, OVER TIME FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THE JCC WAS INVOLVED IN, IN THE PROPERTY TO, TO SOME EXTENT, MANY YEARS LATER.

THE JCC, UM, WHO WE HAVE ALSO BEEN, BEEN SPEAKING WITH, UM, HAD A PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP, UM, THAT NEVER WENT FORWARD, UM, TO TURN A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY INTO HOUSING.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY STILL REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SUCCESS, UM, IN SCHEDULING A MEETING.

I WANNA THANK LESLIE ROSENFELD, WHO IS OUR LIAISON TO ALL THINGS SCHOOLS IN THIS CITY.

UM, SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SHE HAS AMAZING CONTACTS.

UM, SO SHE HAS BEEN ASSISTING THE CITY WITH REACHING OUT.

UM, BUT SO FAR WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING A DIALOGUE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE INDICATION ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT THAT SITE MIGHT BE USED FOR OR ANY INDICATION FROM THEM? NO, FROM MY CONVERSATIONS PERSONALLY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK MONTHS, UM, THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT SITE.

HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN VACANT? A LONG TIME.

I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OVER A DECADE.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE SLEUTHING TODAY, OTHER THAN WISHING EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THANK YOU.

SAME TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.