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GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. 
          WELCOME TO JANUARY, 2025. 
          FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, COMING TO LIVE FROM A FROZEN MIAMI BEACH. 
          UH, I THINK WE HAVE OUR, CERTAINLY OUR COLDEST DAY OF THE YEAR THUS FAR, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY, UH, LESS THAN A MONTH IN. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS, UH, OUR LAST MEETING OF OUR CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          I JUST WANNA LET MY COLLEAGUES AND STAFF KNOW HOW HONORED IT IS, UH, TO SERVE WITH YOU ALL. 
          I'VE HAD ENJOYABLE TIMES, THOUGH WE DON'T DO THIS FOR FUN. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL ENJOY WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU ALL AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. 
          UM, GOT A LOT OF IMPORTANT ITEMS ON WE'VE BEEN, UH, COST, COST CONSCIOUS WITH OUR BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING ALTOGETHER. 
          UM, STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, WHETHER IT BE THE STAFF THAT'S UP HERE OR THE STAFF THAT, UH, IS IN OUR MEETINGS ALL THE TIME, HAND IT OVER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR CFO TO GET THINGS KICKED OFF. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          TODAY'S MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND REMAINING MEMBERS, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. 
          IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, VIRTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 TOLL FREE. 
          AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2. 
          ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISED HAND ICON AND IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP, UM, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, ITEMS, UH, MB FOUR AND MB 13 ARE LINKED, AND IF, UH, 
          [NB 9. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION TO FUND EXPANDING THE NORTH BEACH TREE PLANTING PILOT PROGRAM TO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES LOCATED AT 78TH, 79TH, AND 80TH STREETS OR OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS]
          [NB 10. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM TO FUND A TRANSFORMATIVE TREE CANOPY PROJECT IN TARGETED AREAS THROUGHOUT MIAMI BEACH.]
          [NB 11. FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND TAKING ACTION ON THE FAVORABLE PUBLIC SAFETY NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO EXPAND THE TREE CANOPY IN NORTH BEACH THROUGH A MULTI-DISCIPLINARY FIRM FOR TWO (2) MAIN THOROUGHFARES SUCH AS ABBOTT AVE OR DICKENS AVE AND EXPLORE PARK VIEW ISLAND WITH ASSOCIATED FUNDING.]
MB 9, 10 11 WILL BE LINKED, IF HEARD. 
          AND THE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT IS, UH, WITH THE NEW MAKEUP, THERE IS A REQUEST TO MOVE SOME OF THE MEETING DATES. 
          UH, SO JUST GONNA ANNOUNCE SOME OF THOSE. 
          THERE WILL BE AT THE SAME TIME AT 10:30 AM UH, SO THE MARCH MEETING WILL BE NOW WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26TH. 
          UH, THE APRIL MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY APRIL 16TH. 
          MAY WILL NOW BE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28TH. 
          UH, THE FINANCE, UH, BUDGET ONES, UH, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY COMMISSIONS, THE WHOLE WILL BE STAYING OF THOSE DATES. 
          BUT THE JUNE FERC MEETING WILL BE MOVED TO WEDNESDAY, JULY 11TH, JUNE, I'M SORRY, JUNE 11TH. 
          UH, JULY WILL MOVE TO WEDNESDAY, JULY 16TH AND OCTOBER. 
          WE MOVED TO OCTO WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH. 
          THE SEPTEMBER ONE, UH, WAS NOT UNABLE TO BE MOVED DUE TO CONSTRAINTS WITH THE NUMBER OF DATES AND RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT AS IS. 
          BUT I WANNA MAKE THAT AS A, AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT'LL BE PUT OUT ON THE PERMANENT RECORD. 
          AND, UH, NATALIE WILL BE, UH, SENDING OUT THOSE MEETING INVITE REMINDERS FOR, UH, STAFF AND FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, REMINDERS. 
          AND THAT IS THE LAST ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TIME SURGEONS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHY DON'T WE GET STARTED WITH, 
          [NB 4. DISCUSS SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER PROGRAMIMNG]
          [NB 13. HIGHLIGHT THE DEMAND FOR THE MIAMI BEACH SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM, AND EXPLORE THE EXPANSION OF THE MIAMI BEACH SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM IF NEEDED.]
UH, NB FOUR? UM, I KNOW BOTH OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, VICE MAYOR BOT, UH, THIS HAS BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. 
          AND COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ. 
          I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PRIORITY ITEM OF YOU, UH, COMMEND BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, UM, AND MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          UH, SO LET'S, UH, DISCUSS WHAT PROGRAMMING HERE COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, VICE MAYOR BOTT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. 
          SO, YEAH, THIS IS, UM, REALLY A VICTORY FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND THE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR. 
          UM, A A HISTORIC, UM, SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURALLY AND, AND HISTORICALLY BUILDING, BOY, THAT WAS CONVOLUTED SYNTAX, A SIGNIFICANT, A HISTORICALLY AN ARCHITECTURALLY, UH, SIGNIFICANT BUILDING IN THE HEART OF THE SOUTH BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UM, THAT WAS BUILT LITERALLY TO SERVE, UH, THE CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS OF MIAMI BEACH IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES. 
          AND HAS DONE JUST THAT, HAS BEEN SAVED FROM THE CHOPPING BLOCK, AND NOT ONLY SAVED FROM THE CHOPPING BLOCK, BUT ALSO, UM, IS GOING TO BE REVITALIZED. 
          UH, IT IS IN EXCELLENT PHYSICAL CONDITION. 
          IT NEEDS A, A NEW ELEVATOR, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO. 
          SO THERE'S NOT, UM, A BIG, UH, CAPITAL NEEDS INFRASTRUCTURE KIND OF, UM, CASH INFUSION THAT'S NECESSARY. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST HOW DO WE USE THE SPACE FOR THE GREATER GOOD? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT. 
          SO, UM, WE, UM, THANKS TO OUR COLLEAGUE ALEX FERNANDEZ, AND, UH, OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMISSION, UM, HAD A, UM, OPEN HOUSE THERE WHERE NEIGHBORS CAME OUT, NOT JUST FROM THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, BUT FROM ALL OVER SOUTH BEACH, WHICH WAS REALLY FABULOUS. 
          AND, UM, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THERE, AND THE SAME IDEAS KEPT COMING THROUGH. 
          SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BUILT WHAT, UM, YOU WILL HEAR BASED ON CONSENSUS FROM WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO SEE AND FEEL THAT THEY 
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NEED. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO INCORPORATED SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO, UM, EXPAND FACILITIES FOR SOME OF OUR, UH, STAFF, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WHICH WILL ALSO ALLOW THEM TO, UM, ENABLE, UH, THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE ACTIVITIES LIKE BOXING AND TRAINING, LIKE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO HAPPEN THERE AS WELL. 
          AND TO ALSO HAVE MORE PRESENCE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN A, IN A BENEFICIAL MANNER. 
          SO, UM, JASON, I THINK IF I CAN TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO, UM, TO WALK US THROUGH HOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE SPACE AND, UM, WHAT WE ARE ENVISIONING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          ADD SOMETHING. 
          SURE. 
          SO WE RECENTLY APPROVED A SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER COMMITTEE. 
          IS THAT, I MEAN, ARE THEY, I THOUGHT THAT THAT COMMUNITY DRIVEN INITIATIVE WAS GOING TO WEIGH IN ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE PROGRAM THEN. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING, 'CAUSE I HAD THAT SAME QUESTION, UM, OF OUR COLLEAGUE WHO SPONSORED THAT, IS THAT IT'S MORE ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE PROPOSED THERE, NOT THE FUNCTIONS THAT WILL BE SET UP THERE. 
          SO SOMEBODY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANNA DO, UM, WE WANNA HAVE SALSA LESSONS ON A TUESDAY EVENING AFTER DINNER. 
          AND SO, AND SOMEBODY FROM THAT COMMITTEE WOULD BRING IT AND THEN IT WOULD COME THROUGH THE CITY AND WE'D FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          OR, UM, THE COMMITTEE WOULD TALK MORE ABOUT PROGRAMMING, UM, EVENTS AND IDEAS AS OPPOSED TO WHO'S GOING TO BE USING THE SPACE. 
          OKAY, THAT'S FINE THEN. 
          BUT I HAVE ONE REAL WORRY ABOUT THIS PLAN, WHICH IS THAT WE FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR THE SENIOR LUNCHROOM. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IT'S GOING, I BELIEVE IT'S OUT IN PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW, OR WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE INITIAL RFP ON THAT, THIS UPCOMING MEETING. 
          AND WITH THE WAY THAT, UM, THIS IS BEING DESIGNED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECONFIGURE. 
          I, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE MOVING THE SENIORS INTO A WINDOWLESS SPACE. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD WINDOWS AND IT'S REALLY JUST A LUNCHROOM. 
          SO THE REST OF THE TIME AFTER SCHOOL COULD BE USED FOR THE CHILDREN. 
          AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD TAKE THEM OUT OF THE BEAUTIFUL SPACE THAT THEY ALWAYS HAD IN THE PAST PRE COVID AND, AND MOVE THEM INTO LIKE A KIND OF BUNKER STYLE ENVIRONMENT. 
          I I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, I COULD TAKE IT TO THE  COMMUNITY CENTER COMMITTEE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THEY DESERVE TO EAT IN A NATURALLY LIT FILLED ROOM. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE BEAUTY OF THIS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES IN THE CENTER. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW COULD WE RECONFIGURE THIS SO THAT NUMBER ONE, WHEN THAT RFP COMES BACK, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY OPEN THE LUNCHROOM BECAUSE THE TABLES AND CHAIRS ARE THERE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT HAS THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE THE TABLES AND CHAIRS CORRECT. 
          FOR EATING? YES. 
          I'M GETTING A NOD. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO IMMEDIATELY OPEN IT. 
          I DON'T WANT THE CENTER TO BE, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT CONSTRUCTION, HERE'S MY ASK IMMEDIATELY OPEN THE LUNCHROOM WHEN WE GET THE RFP BACK, UM, WHETHER IT'S JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT IS OFFERED. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE 150 SENIORS THAT ARE ON A WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW THAT ARE NOT GETTING FED DAILY 150 MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN THEY, AT LEAST WHILE YOU'RE CONFIGURING THIS WINDOW, THIS SPACE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE SENIORS, UM, CAN THEY EAT IN THE SPACE WITH THE WINDOWS THAT DOESN'T NEED ANY CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE OTHER SPACE, I GUESS IS, IS RECONFIGURED? I'M, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 
          WELL, SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, UM, IT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION AND I SUGGEST THAT WE TALK TO, UM, ALBA, BECAUSE I THINK SHE HAD SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS. 
          UM, AND NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME RATIONALE AND MAYBE IT'S A DISCUSSION POINT, BUT I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF WE HAVE, UM, A VENDOR WHO'S READY AND WE HAVE THE, THE FACILITY'S READY TO GO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE END UP MOVING THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE FOOD IS SERVED IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR WHATEVER, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          BUT THERE, THERE'S NO REASON TO WAIT. 
          IN MY VIEW. 
          GOOD MORNING RE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          YES, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT TO HOPEFULLY NOW ON FEBRUARY 3RD, BE ABLE TO RELEASE AN ITN ON INVITATION TO NEGOTIATE WITH DIFFERENT PARTNERS AND SEE WHAT WE GET BACK, UM, FROM THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN OPERATING THE MEAL SITE. 
          UM, AS IN REFERENCE TO THE SPACE, WHAT WE THOUGHT OF WAS THE ABILITY OF HAVING NOT ONLY THE LUNCHROOM THERE, BUT ALSO SINCE IT DOES HAVE SPACE FOR OFFICES, IT INCLUDES THE ABILITY FOR THE SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY WHO'S THERE AND DIFFERENT OTHER PROVIDERS IN THE OFFICE SPACE. 
          SO IN CASE THEY NEED TO TAP INTO ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. 
          PLUS THAT SPACE ALSO HAS THE FRONT SIDE OF IT. 
          SO WE WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD DO, 
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UM, IN THE FUTURE WITH IT. 
          BUT IF WE DO GET THE ITN AND THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS ARE READY TO GO, I'M SURE THAT WE CAN EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. 
          I, IF I CAN, COMMISSIONER, IF I, I'LL GO THROUGH PHRASE. 
          OKAY. 
          MY TOP PRIORITY IS THAT WHEN WE GET THE GREEN LIGHT FROM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE LITTLE HAVANA OR JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES, THAT WE IMMEDIATELY PUT OUT THE TABLES AND START SERVING MEALS TO THE 150 PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE WAITING LIST. 
          THAT ME AND THAT THAT IS, AND THAT, IF I MAY, THAT THAT IS OUR INTENTION. 
          AND I WAS GONNA DISCUSS THAT DURING MY PRESENTATION, BUT OKAY. 
          BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IF WE PUT THIS OUT IN FEBRUARY, YOU'RE GONNA GET IT BACK WHEN, UM, I BELIEVE 30 DAYS. 
          FROM 30 DAYS I WOULD, SO LET'S SAY THAT WE APPROVE THIS IN MARCH, WE GET IT BACK AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S JC JCS USED TO OPERATE IT, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA WIN THIS RFP, BUT LET'S SAY THAT JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES GETS IT THEN, I MEAN APRIL 1ST, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, HOWEVER, BECAUSE MY BIG FEAR IS THAT IT GOES UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A YEAR. 
          IT, AND NOW WE'VE GOT 150 SENIORS, SO THAT'S AS LONG NO, IT'S AS WHATEVER WE CHOOSE TO DO TODAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE A COMMITMENT. 
          I WOULD LIKE, AND I WOULD LIKE THAT COMMISSION TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO JUST PUT THE CHAIR GIVING OUT THE FOOD. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF US THAT WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          THERE'S AMPLE SPACE TO PROVIDE LUNCH AS SOON AS WE GET IT, WHEREVER IT MAY BE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ITS FINAL HOME. 
          UM, AND THERE'S ROOM AND AND TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THE SPACE IS. 
          AND I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE SERVICES SORT OF SURROUNDING THE SENIORS. 
          SO THEY JUST GET UP FROM THEIR, THEIR LUNCH CONVERSATION. 
          THEY CAN WALK INTO THIS OFFICE AND INTO THAT OFFICE AND GET THINGS TAKEN CARE OF. 
          BUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT IS HOW IT HAS TO BE. 
          LIKE, IT'S, IT'S A COOL IDEA. 
          WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. 
          I THINK YOU HAVE EVERYBODY'S, UM, WILL HAVE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT TO, TO GET THAT GOING. 
          THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD OFF ON IT. 
          SO, UM, I, I WOULD SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND HEAR ABOUT THE REST OF IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO JUST TO START, SO AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED THAT BACK IN OCTOBER THERE WAS AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE WE SOLICITED COMMENT FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE, UH, IDEAS AND THINGS THAT WOULD WANT TO BE PUT IN THERE. 
          AND THEY CAME BACK AS KIDS PROGRAMS, KIDS CAMPS, UH, SENIORS PROGRAMS, UH, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, INCLUDING, UM, SOME POLICE, UH, SERVICE POLICE SUBSTATION, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. 
          SO IF I CAN, WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS HERE AND KIND OF THE MAPPING OF IT, THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT WAS THE GROUND FLOOR IN THREE, I'M CALLING THERE TOTAL OF FOUR QUADRANTS IN THE BUILDING. 
          UH, YOU HAVE THE ONE EASTERLY QUADRANT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE, UH, RAINBOW DAYCARE THAT'S THERE. 
          AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH THAT AND, AND REALLY CAN'T 'CAUSE OF VARIOUS REASONS. 
          YOU HAVE THAT CENTRAL SQUARE, WHICH CURRENTLY PROVIDES A LOT OF SERVICES THAT ARE KIND OF IN ALBA'S, UH, WHEELHOUSE WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SENIOR SERVICES ALREADY. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A NUMBER OF OUT, UM, KIND OF RINGED OFFICES, BUT IT'S SEVERELY UNDERUTILIZED, THE SPACE THAT'S THERE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LARGE AUDITORIUM, THE BIG LARGE OPEN SPACE, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THAT KIND OF WESTERN QUADRANT AND THAT SECOND FLOOR QUADRANT, WHICH IS A BIG OPEN SPACE. 
          SO HOW WE LOOKED AT THIS, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER AT, AT TASK ME TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND ALL DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          AND WHERE WE CAME TO AND, AND WE KIND OF ALREADY TOUCHED A BIT ABOUT THAT, WAS WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, TWO COMMISSION RESOLUTIONS HERE TO, TO, TO SUPPORT. 
          ONE IS THE FUNDING FOR THE $175,000 COMMITTED TO THIS FISCAL YEAR TO OPEN UP THE NEW, OR, OR REOPEN, I GUESS THE SENIOR, UH, MEAL PROGRAM AND A SEPARATE RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS TO, UH, RUN A SUMMER CAMP OUT OF THERE. 
          NOW ONE THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE SECOND FLOOR IS SOMETHING WE PREFER, ESPECIALLY WITH JUST THE ONE ELEVATOR, IS WE DON'T LIKE AS A, IN, IN TALKING WITH ALBA AND PARKS, WE DON'T LIKE CHILDREN AND SENIORS TO HAVE TO WALK STAIRS JUST FOR VARIOUS ISSUES. 
          IF THERE'S A, SO WE WANNA DO OUR BEST TO KEEP THOSE PROGRAMS THERE. 
          THE, THE PARKS PROGRAMS REALLY NEED LARGE, OPEN, FLEXIBLE SPACE. 
          WHAT'S VERY NICE ABOUT THIS IS THE KITCHEN FACILITY, BOTH SERVICES, THE AUDITORIUM AND THE CENTRAL AREA. 
          IN TALKING WITH ALBA, AND I KNOW SHE'S BEEN TALKING WITH FACILITIES, WE DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT BY THE TIME THAT THIS RFP COMES OUT, UH, FOR THE SENIOR MEAL PROGRAM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPERATE IMMEDIATELY IN THAT CENTRAL AREA. 
          MOST OF THE CENTRAL AREA SPACE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN ARE CUBICLES, WHICH ARE, CAN BE DONE IN ONE DAY. 
          UH, THERE MAY BE SOME WORK ON THE BATHROOM. 
          SO WITHIN HER, THE ALREADY APPROPRIATED DOLLARS, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE MINOR RENOVATION WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO CLEAN THAT UP, RE BE RE EFFICIENT. 
          THIS WOULD TASK ALBA TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH THE COUNTY, SOME OTHER AGENCIES TO MOVE THEM AROUND MORE EFFICIENTLY AND ACTUALLY HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OFFICES, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING THAT ALBA MAY WANT TO BRING IN SERVICE PROVIDERS. 
          AND AS ALBA HAD TOUCHED, NOT ONLY WOULD THERE BE INTERNAL SPACE FOR TABLES TO RUN THE MEAL PROGRAM, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE IN THE OPEN AIR THERE, IN THAT COURTYARD. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO IN, IT'S ALL GLASS, 
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WHEN THERE'S THAT RECEPTION AREA, WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA GIVE THE ALBA'S TEAM THE ABILITY TO THEY MIGHT HAVE THE WINDOWS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          AND, AND OUTDOOR, AN OUTDOOR SPACE POSSIBLY. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT NOW THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM IS ALL DURING THE DAY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE LUNCHTIME, WHICH IS ALSO TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS, AGAIN, BY COMMISSION RESOLUTION, I NEED, WE NEED TO FIT BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS IN THERE BY PUTTING THE, UH, PARKS PROGRAMMING IN THE AUDITORIUM SPACE. 
          WE CAN RUN ALL THOSE SUMMER CAMPS, AFTERCARE CAMPS. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE, UH, AS YOU HAD BROUGHT UP, THERE'S THE COMMITTEE WHICH WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF, YOU KNOW, READING CLASSES OR ZUMBA CLASSES OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'LL BE THEIR THING TO FLESH OUT WITH THOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS OF HOW THEY WOULD LIKE THAT TO RUN. 
          WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS, AND THEN ALSO BECAUSE PARKS WOULD BE USING IT MOSTLY DURING THE DAY, IN THE EVENING, THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE ADULT RELATED ACTIVITIES THAT COULD BE RUN THROUGH PARKS, UH, IN THAT SPACE, BUT ALSO FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS SOLUTION ABOUT HAVING ALBA'S TEAM IN THE CENTER, AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE, IN THE CONCLUSION PAGE, THAT THE GROUND FLOOR CENTRAL QUADRAT BE UTILIZED FOR THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO RUN A SENIOR MEAL LUNCH PROGRAM, SOCIAL MEETING SPACE, AND THE WORK WITH THE EXISTING PROVIDERS AND NEW PROVIDERS REALLY TO, TO ON EFFICIENT USE OF THE SPACE, THE WESTERN QUADRANT BY, UH, PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR YEAR-ROUND PROGRAMMING, INCLUDING THE, YOU KNOW, THE 80 PLUS PERSON SUMMER PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, THE, THE TOP WOULD BE UTILIZE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, AND BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT, A, A, A POLICE SPACE FOR TRAINING, NOT ONLY FOR TRAINING OF OFFICERS, BUT FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          SO IT WOULD POST COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH PAL TO HAVE THE WORK IN THERE. 
          THERE'S THE WOMEN'S SELF-DEFENSE CLASSES, THERE'S THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY. 
          AND THIS WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME PERMANENT POLICE PRESENCE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER TERM. 
          ONE THAT WOULD REVOLVE MORE DOLLARS DOING MORE RENOVATION ON THAT SECOND FLOOR. 
          BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING AN APPLICATION TO THE STATE TO GET A 50 50 MATCH ON THE STATE APPROPRIATION REQUEST TO HELP BUILD OUT THAT SPACE, TO MAKE THAT A, MAKE THAT BUDGETARILY A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          UM, IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM TO COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          IF THIS GETS ENDORSED HERE AS PRESENTED, WE'D GO TO COMMISSION TO GET THE CONCEPT APPROVED. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GIVE THE DOLLARS BOTH ONE TIME FOR SOME MINOR RENOVATION WORK, UH, LESS, LESS THAN ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ONE TIME FOR PARKS TO DO SOME RENOVATION WORK IN THAT MAIN AUDITORIUM AREA. 
          AND THEN THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES WOULD TAKE TO, TO RUN THAT SUMMER CAMP. 
          'CAUSE THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY ENDORSED THAT CONCEPT. 
          SO WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A VERY VIABLE OPTION THAT BRINGS SENIORS AND COMMUNITY PROGRAM SPACE. 
          IT GIVES PARKS AND IT GIVES A POLICE PRESENCE. 
          WE HAVE POLICE ALSO RUN SUMMER CAMPS TOO. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, IF WE ENDORSE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD ON THIS NOW, 'CAUSE WE REALLY WANNA DO THIS NOW TO BE AHEAD OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, TO BE AHEAD OF THE SUMMER CAMP PRO PROCESS AND TO BE IN A POSITION IF THIS GETS ENDORSED. 
          BECAUSE ALBA'S TEAM NEEDS TO KNOW REALLY WHERE THAT LOCATION'S GONNA BE FOR THAT ITN, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT SET UP. 
          WE ARE, WE'RE IN A GOOD ZONE RIGHT NOW, SO WE REALLY ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT ENDORSEMENT TODAY, GO BACK TO COMMISSION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GET THAT CLOSED, TO GET THAT THIS RECOMMENDATION APPROVED AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO THE CHAIR. 
          YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, ALBA. 
          UM, THE SENIOR LUNCHEON, IS IT, CAN ANYBODY GO OR DO YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED? AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS GIVEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OVERLAP WITH THE SUMMER CAMP, JUST FROM SAFETY AND SECURITY PROTOCOLS, UM, IT THROUGH THE, BY THE PROVIDER THAT'S SELECTED, RIGHT? THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DO SOME REGISTRATION FORMAT AND IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR MIAMI BEACH CLIENTELE, A SPECIFIC AGE RANGE, ET CETERA. 
          SO YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY WORKED INTO THE ITN, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE, THE PROVIDER WOULD ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT FUTURE FUNDING. 
          THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL, UM, SECTIONS THAT THEY WOULD PUT FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WOULD BE SUPER COOL, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS AFTER THE SENIOR LUNCHEON, DURING THE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM, TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A PARTNERSHIP READING PROGRAM THAT'S IN PLACE. 
          UH, IT WOULD BENEFIT, UM, THE YOUTH, UH, BY HAVING ONE-ON-ONE KIND OF, UH, ATTENTION. 
          BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN SOME OF OUR SENIORS, UH, ARE LONELY AND DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, HUMAN INTERACTION. 
          AND WHEN I BRING MY DAUGHTER TO THE SENIOR EVENTS, I SEE THEIR FACES JUST LIGHT UP. 
          SO TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ON A, YOU KNOW, DAILY BASIS, I THINK REALLY, UH, IS A GREAT SYNERGY THERE. 
          SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT. 
          YEAH, IF I CAN, UH, CHAIR THAT, THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF CONCEPTS THAT INTER GENERALLY INTERGENERATIONAL, UM, MOVEMENTS TOGETHER, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE HAVE THE CHILDCARE, WE'LL HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OLDER CHILDREN IN IN THERE AND THE SENIORS IN THERE. 
          IT REALLY COULD BE QUITE SOMETHING QUITE SPECIAL. 
          AND, AND THAT, AND WE REALLY DID PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS, AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH THE ITN MODEL SO THAT WHEN THE PROVIDERS WRITE US BACK, WE HAVE THE ABILITY OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU PROVIDE US THAT WOULD BE INNOVATIVE, 
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INTERGENERATIONAL, AND, AND NEW? IT'S, AND IT'S NOT JUST MEALS TOO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, HAVING IT SET UP FOR, FOR GAMES, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WATCHING, UH, UH, NO NOVELLA, UH, RUNNING BINGO, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE, THEY'RE COMING IN FROM 11 TO ONE TO HAVE A MEAL. 
          WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ALL DAY COMMUNITY SPACE FOR SENIORS WHILE YOU'RE HAVING CHILDREN IN THE SUMMER CAMP. 
          SO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TAUGHT ABOUT HERE ARE PERFECT VICE MAYOR BOT AND COMMISSIONER ING GONZALEZ, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE ON HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, AND THEN I ALSO WANNA HEAR THIS WITH THE SUMMER CAMP AS WELL, JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO ADD IN, BUT VICE MAYOR BOT, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I LOVE THAT INTERGENERATIONAL, THERE'S SO MUCH DATA FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT IT JUST, IT, IT'S SO BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. 
          SO DEFINITELY MORE OF THAT. 
          AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE, SINCE HE'S NOT HERE TO TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS, UM, THE LATE ART MARTINO WAS THRILLED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF, UM, HAVING MORE ROOM FOR PAL ACTIVITIES, SPECIFICALLY FOR BOXING. 
          HE WAS, HIS EYES JUST LIT UP. 
          UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT, THAT IS SUCH A, A, AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF WHAT PAL OFFERS TO KIDS AND IT IS SO FORMATIVE FOR SO MANY KIDS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO SPACE TO DO IT IN MIAMI BEACH. 
          THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO DRIVE ACROSS THE SUNDAY NINTH STREET BRIDGE TO A FACILITY. 
          SO TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT OFFERING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY, WELL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST, UM, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR A LOT OF REASONS, BUT NOW MORE THAN EVER. 
          SO LET'S, UM, KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND IF I GET MR. , OH, SORRY. 
          OH, UM, JUST, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          ALBA AND FACILITIES MAYBE, DO YOU GUYS FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN PREPARE THAT AREA IN A COUPLE MONTHS? IS IT THE CENTRAL AREA WITH THE CUBICLES? OH, NO, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE, THE AUDITORIUM. 
          THE AUDITORIUM IS READY TO GO. 
          I JUST WORRY ABOUT THIS CENTRAL AREA. 
          SO IN THE CENTRAL, THE, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THEM IN THE AUDITORIUM UNTIL WE FIX THE CENTRAL AREA. 
          CAN WE AGREE ON THAT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE SUMMER CAMP ISN'T GONNA START UNTIL JUNE. 
          IF, IF I MAY. 
          UM, THE CENTRAL AREA DOES, HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF ONE TIME, UH, RENOVATION WORK THAT PARKS HAS IDENTIFIED TO BE DONE IN THAT AREA. 
          SO WE BRING THAT, THAT A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GET IDENTIFIED, AND THEN PARKS WILL WORK FOR FACILITIES TO MAKE THAT WORK HAPPEN IN THE AUDITORIUM. 
          SO IT'S UP AND RUNNING FOR BY JUNE. 
          UH, BUT THE CENTRAL AREA ITSELF IS ALREADY HAS DOLLARS. 
          THE $175,000 WOULD BE UTILIZED TO GET THAT SPACE READY. 
          AND UPON COMMISSION APPROVAL, THEY'RE ABLE TO ROCK AND ROLL ON THAT KIND OF CONCEPT. 
          AND A LOT OF IT IS REALLY JUST TAKING DOWN MODULAR CUBICLES, WHICH COULD BE DONE IN A DAY. 
          SO, UH, OTHER THAN MAYBE SOME BATHROOM RENOVATIONS, AND I KNOW WE JUST HAD SOME DONE HERE, IT TOOK LESS THAN A WEEK. 
          I DON'T SEE, UH, AN ISSUE WITH THIS BEING UP AND RUNNING AND READY TO HOST THE PROVIDER BY THE TIME THIS CONTRACT IS EXECUTED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO YOU SEE THE CONTRACT BEING EXECUTED BY WHEN IT'S, UH, THE, IT N IS ACTUALLY NOW 30 DAYS, IT'S 45 DAYS, I JUST ADVISED BY PROCUREMENT. 
          UM, BUT AFTER THAT, SHORTLY THEREAFTER, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A PROVIDER THAT IS, IS VERY VERSED IN DOING MEAL SITES AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING READY TO GO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          AND WE'LL DO THE PREP IF I'M WE'LL DO THE PREP WHILE THAT PROCUREMENT'S OUT THERE. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL BE WORKING IMMEDIATELY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO IT'LL BE SIMULTANEOUS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          ONLY ONE MORE QUESTION, AND THAT IS, ONCE WE CHOOSE THE PROVIDER, HOW DOES THIS GET, I MEAN, THE COMMISSION FUNDED IT THE FIRST YEAR, BUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE THE FUNDING FOR THE SENIOR PROGRAM AND WILL THEY BE APPLYING FOR IT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE EXPLORING THROUGH THE ITN WHEN WE GET, UM, WHEN WE RECEIVE THE, THE PROPOSALS BACK, IS HOW DO THEY PLAN TO REFUND THIS? AND HOPEFULLY IF IT IS A PROVIDER THAT HAS DONE THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, PLACES THAT THEY'VE GONE TO TO BE ABLE TO GET DOLLARS FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND BY THE WAY, THESE PROVIDERS, THEY DON'T ONLY JUST PROVIDE, UH, FOOD, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICE. 
          LIKE THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THERAPISTS ON BOARD. 
          THEY DO, THEY, UH, PROGRAMMING, DANCING, EXERCISE FOR THE SENIOR, IT'S A WHOLE, UH, IT RUNS A WHOLE GAMUT. 
          SOMETIMES THEY TAKE THEM, UH, WEEKLY TO LIKE WALMART OR THEY HAVE LATE, YOU KNOW, OR THEY TAKE THEM SHOPPING. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, IT'S, I I, I WAS AT, UM, THE JCS FACILITY ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND I WAS REALLY SO IMPRESSED WITH NOT JUST THE FOOD THAT THEY PROVIDE, BUT ALL OF THE SERVICES. 
          AND I KNOW THAT LITTLE HAVANA DOES A GOOD JOB TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA WHO, WHOEVER IT IS. 
          I DON'T CARE WHO WE CHOOSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, OKAY, SO IT WILL BE FUNDED SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO THE WORK AND WE'RE GONNA GET IT OPEN. 
          I JUST DON'T WANNA KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON A WAIT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE WITH THE CHAIR THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THIS ITEM HEARD TODAY. 
          WE CAN GET RIGHT TO COMMISSION. 
          WE CAN GET THIS ROLLING, BUT WE'RE READY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND EXECUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO IF, IF WE KIND OF WOULD, IF THERE'S NO QUESTION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN, IF POSSIBLE, A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED AND RETURN TO COMMISSION. 
          AND I'LL SECOND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND WE'LL HEAR THE COMPANION ITEM FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE 
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SUMMER PARK? OH, IF, IF I CAN, I ACTUALLY WERE HEARD SIMULTANEOUSLY AND THE MOTION WOULD INCORPORATE THAT, THAT CONCEPT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE COMMISSION ALREADY ENDORSED THAT ITEM. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS A DUAL REFERRAL, I THINK, TO NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THEY ACTUALLY ALREADY ENDORSED THAT BY ENDORSING THIS ITEM. 
          WE RETURNED TO, WE WOULD, UM, PARKS WOULD WORK WITH THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT TO RETURN WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, TO APPROPRIATE THOSE SAID DOLLARS. 
          AND, AND THE THOUGHT IS WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FOR THIS SUMMER. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT OUR PLAN IS. 
          IT'S FABULOUS. 
          WHICH IS ALSO WHY WE WANTED TO GET THIS MOVED OUTTA COMMITTEE TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I ASK, SO JOHN, IF WE HAVE PARKS, UM, IF, IF WE HAVE LIKE CERTAIN CAMPS OPERATING OUT OF THE CESAR COMMUNITY CENTER, ARE THEY GONNA BE LIKE ALL PURPOSE CAMPS WHERE LIKE THEY GO TO THE POOL AT FLAMINGO PARK AND THEY GO PLAY STUFF? OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA BE THERE AND IT'LL BE LIKE, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAMPS, LIKE CHESS CAMP OR, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT? LIKE WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER WE'RE PLANNING A TRADITIONAL CAMP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WITH FLAMINGO PARK BEING SO, SO CLOSE, THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SHORT DISTANCE FIELD TRIPS,  TO THE POOL AND WHATNOT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S WAS SO WONDERFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          IT, IT'S FANTASTIC. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ISN'T IT NICE WHEN YOU FIGHT LIKE A DOG FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU WIN AND YOU GET TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY GOOD FOR THE GREATER GOOD? IT'S JUST LIKE, WHAT BETTER JOB IN THE WORLD IS THERE? YEAH, IT'S LIKE A MIRACLE I'VE GIVEN UP. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, ALL SO POSITIVE. 
          I, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY PINCH ME, BUT HE MIGHT PINCH ME REALLY HARD. 
          SO, , WELL, TEAMWORK MAKES, MY, MY HANDS ARE STILL FROZEN FROM OUTSIDE, SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK. 
          SO I LOVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, YOU CAME ON BOARD, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE END IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY, BUT, UH, I KNOW IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU ALL, AND I WANTED TO GET BEHIND THE SUPPORT WHEN WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE VISION. 
          AND NOW THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, WON'T PUT THE CORPORAL FOR THE HORSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FIND AN ADEQUATE SOLUTION FOR THE FIRE STATION WITHOUT INTERRUPTING, UH, THE PARKS AND REC ACTIVATION. 
          I, I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN. 
          YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY LITTLE BUMP IN THE ROAD, BUT WE'LL TRY TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTION. 
          IT'S, IT'S A TINY BUMP. 
          IT'S MOVING FORWARD AND IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE PARK, THE TRACK AND FIELD. 
          SPEAKING OF MOVING FORWARD, LET'S DO IT . 
          UM, I, I WANNA HEAR SOME ITEMS, UH, GIVEN I HAVE, UH, BOTH OF YOU, UH, STILL ON THE COMMITTEE, UM, THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO BOTH OF YOU. 
          SO, UH, VICE MAYOR BOB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE BYRON QUORA? OH, YES, PLEASE. 
          THAT IS MR. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, DANIEL ZU FACILITIES FLEET. 
          HOLD ON, LET ME, I'M SORRY. 
          LEMME JUST ANNOUNCE THAT ITEM, WHICH IS, WHICH ITEM IS THAT? 21? YES, SORRY. 
          MB 21 
          [NB 21. DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE BYRON CARLYLE PROJECT AND THE STRUCTURE FOR THE CONTEMPLATED RFP(S)]
DISCUSSED THE STATUS OF THE BYRON CARLISLE PROJECT AND THE STRUCTURE FOR CONTEMPLATED RFPS. 
          UH, ITEM MB 21. 
          SO THIS IS, UM, ANOTHER, THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER HUGE COMMUNITY WIN, UM, FOR THIS SITE IN NORTH BEACH THAT HAS BEEN, UM, THAT LANGUISHED WITH INATTENTIVE CARE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          IT LIMPED ALONG AND FINALLY GAVE UP. 
          AND, UM, WE ARE NOW GOING TO RISE FROM THE ASHES, LIKE AN ARTISTIC PHOENIX AND PROVIDE A COMPLEX COMMUNITY ARTS CENTER, UM, THAT WILL INCREASE THE DRAW TO NORTH BEACH BEYOND JUST THE BAND SHELL AND THE, THE PRIVATE GALLERIES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE WORLD RENOWNED, UM, AND WILL ALSO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND SOMETHING WITH THAT COMBINATION DOES NOT EXIST IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO BE THE LEADERS ON MAKING THIS WORK. 
          THE, THE RENTAL INCOME WILL HELP SUBSIDIZE THE FUNDING FOR THE ARTS AND WHAT IS PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT IS A COMPLICATED BEAR TO FIGURE OUT, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY AND LUCKY TO HAVE DANIEL LEADING THE CHARGE. 
          UM, SO I WON'T EVEN BEGIN TO TRY TO EXPLAIN ALL THE MACHINATIONS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT'S ON YOU, BUT GO, THIS IS GONNA BE A HUGE, HUGE WIN AGAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER DANIEL MISSOURI FACILITIES AND FLEET. 
          UH, HERE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE BYRON CARLISLE. 
          UM, AS COMMISSIONER BOT STATED, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES TO THIS AND, UH, WE'RE TOWARDS THE END OF A VERY IMPORTANT INITIAL STAGE WHERE WE ARE DEFINING AS A CITY WHAT WE WANT OUTTA THIS CULTURAL CENTER. 
          SO EVENTUALLY WE WILL ENTER INTO AN RFP WITH A DEVELOPER, AND THE DEVELOPER WILL GO OUT AND BRING US WHAT THEY WANT. 
          BUT BEFORE THAT, WE WANT AS A CITY TO BE VERY PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, AND PRECISE WITH WHAT THE CITY EXPECTS 
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OUT OF THIS DEAL. 
          UM, IN DOING SO, WE'VE HIRED A MS, UH, CONSULTING PLANNING AND, AND RESEARCH TO HELP US, UH, MAKE THAT VISION A LITTLE BIT MORE TANGIBLE. 
          UH, WE ARE AT THE FINAL STAGES OF OUR ENGAGEMENT, OUR INITIAL ENGAGEMENT WITH A MS. THEY'VE DELIVERED, UM, A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN OPERATING PARTNER. 
          THEY'VE DELIVERED A BUILDING PROGRAM AND A FIRST COST ESTIMATE FOR THAT BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          UH, THEY GAVE STAFF THREE OPTIONS ON JANUARY 8TH, UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH DELIVERS EVERYTHING THAT WAS NEEDED FROM THE ANCHOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE INTERVIEWED IN THIS PROCESS. 
          UH, THERE IS ONE BIT OF A CHALLENGE AS AN OPERATOR. 
          UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROGRAM THIS VERSION OF THE, OF THE CULTURAL CENTER VERY SEQUENTIALLY. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE SO MUCH AS A OF A HUB WITH, UM, WITH SIMULTANEOUS ACTIVITY GOING ON AT ONCE. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SEQUENTIAL. 
          YOU LOAD IN A SHOW, YOU DO A SHOW, YOU LOAD OUT A SHOW YOU LOAD IN THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DARK DAYS AND DAYS WITHOUT ACTIVITY. 
          UH, THAT'S THE FIRST OPTION. 
          AND THAT ONE WAS THE PRICE OF THAT ONE. 
          TOTAL PROJECT COST CAME IN AT 39 MILLION. 
          SO THE SECOND OPTION BUILDS ON THAT ONE. 
          IT, UH, THE, THE STUDIO THEATER IN, IN OPTION ONE IS A 250 SEAT THEATER. 
          IT JUMPS UP TO 350 SEATS. 
          IT ADDS A DEDICATED CINEMA. 
          THERE WILL BE CLASSROOMS, THERE WILL BE REHEARSAL STUDIOS, THERE WILL BE, UM, A LOT OF ACTIVITY SPACE. 
          THERE'LL BE AN EVENT SPACE, UH, FOR EXHIBITIONS, UH, A WARMING KITCHEN. 
          SO THIS, THIS NOW BECOMES THAT HUB THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING OF CULTURAL ACTIVITY IN NORTH BEACH. 
          SO THAT'S OPTION TWO. 
          AND THAT ONE HAS BEEN PRICED AT AT 46 MILLION, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY HIGHER THAN THE 30 MILLION THAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED CURRENTLY. 
          OPTION THREE IS ALL OF THE GREAT TO HAVES. 
          IT IS EVERYTHING WE WANT AND FUTURE PROOF IT FOR THE ANCHOR ORGANIZATIONS TO GROW INTO. 
          UM, AND THAT ONE HAS BEEN PRICED IN AT 74 MILLION. 
          NOW THAT ONE IS, IS A STRETCH. 
          UH, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT WE WANTED, BUT I THINK IN, IN DISCUSSION, THE, THE TRUTH LIES SOMEWHERE JUST NORTH OF OPTION TWO AND SOUTH OF OPTION THREE. 
          AND THAT REALLY IS GONNA BE DETERMINED WHEN WE PROCEED WITH THE FINANCIAL MODELING. 
          SO IN FEBRUARY, WE EXPECT, UH, TO GET A PRO FORMA ONE YEAR OPERATING PRO FORMA FROM A MS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COST AND REVENUES ARE GONNA BE FOR THE CULTURAL. 
          USING THAT, NOW WE HAVE A FINANCIAL PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANT, HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST, AND HOW MUCH THE OPERATION IS GONNA COST. 
          WITH THAT, WE, WE WILL DRAFT AN RFP. 
          WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON A DRAFT OF AN RFP, BUT THIS INFORMATION WILL INFORM THE RFP, SO WE CAN GIVE THE DEVELOPER A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE AND WHAT THEY WILL DELIVER, UH, FROM THAT CULTURAL CENTER. 
          SO IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I'LL CONTINUE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO THE STRUCTURE OF THE RFP, AS I SAID, UH, WE WANNA BE CLEAR WITH WHAT THE CITY EXPECTS, BUT LEAVE ENOUGH, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN THERE SO THAT ONE, IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS. 
          AND TWO, UH, THEY CAN ADD VALUE TO THE, TO THE PROJECT. 
          UH, THE FINANCES ARE ALL SLIDING SCALES. 
          THERE IS GONNA BE A GAP AS WE WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, WHETHER WE ENGAGE THE OPERATING PARTNER, WHICH, UH, A MS HAS RECOMMENDED. 
          WE, WE SPEAK TO THE FRIENDS OF THE BYRON AND ENGAGE THE FRIENDS OF THE BYRON AS THE OPERATOR. 
          UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE OF THIS PROJECT, THE FRIENDS OF THE BYRON WILL COME IN AS ADVOCATES, UH, AS FUNDRAISERS, UH, AS, UH, AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, ORGANIZATION. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT, THERE IS THE ABILITY THROUGH PHILANTHROPY TO TRY TO CLOSE SOME OF THAT $16 MILLION, UH, GAP. 
          UM, AND IF, UH, ACTUALLY MY, UH, I SHOULD GO BACK AND SAY THE STAFF STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          WHEN A MS PROPOSED THE THREE OPTIONS, WE SAW THAT OPTION TWO WAS THE BEST MODEL TO FOLLOW, TO GET, TO CONTINUE THE BEARING FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, WE THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE, THE RIGHT MIX OF FINANCIALLY REALISTIC 
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WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT, OR EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. 
          A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT AND DELIVERY OF A CULTURAL CENTER THAT REALLY WILL BE USEFUL TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE ANCHOR ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SO AS WE PREPARE TO PUT OUT THE RFP, THERE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AS TO WHERE THE SWEET SPOT IS AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR FUNDING THIS. 
          WHETHER IT'S STATE GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS, UH, ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM PRIVATE DONORS, UH, ALL OF THAT WILL BE ON THE TABLE. 
          THERE'S ALSO REALLY NEGOTIATING THE VALUE WITH A DEVELOPER. 
          THERE IS, UH, SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY HAS SET ASIDE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, WHICH WILL BE PART, AS WAS SAID OF THIS PROJECT. 
          WE CAN LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS TO DELIVER MORE CULTURAL CENTER POTENTIALLY, BUT ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE VISITED DURING THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, WHICH PART OF THAT IS, UH, WE'VE ENGAGED PFM TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT SOME OF THAT. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, THE NEXT STEPS IS, UH, TO ANALYZE, CREATE THE RFP, AND THEN DECIDE, UH, IF WHAT VERSION OF THE RFP WE'RE HAPPY WITH AND, AND PUT OUT. 
          AND, UH, AND WE GO FROM THERE. 
          REALLY WHAT, WHAT THIS BRIEF IS FOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES THAT IN THE, THE PATH THAT WE ARE, UH, PURSUING, OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INSIGHT OR QUESTIONS YOU NEED US TO TI TO ANSWER VICE MAYOR BOT, TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO SEE WHERE YOU WANNA TAKE THIS. 
          BUT IS, IS THERE AN ASK TODAY BESIDES MOVING THIS FORWARD? THE, THE, THE, YEAH, SO WE, WE ACTUALLY PICKED THE OPTION. 
          SO YOU WANT FINALITY OF WHAT OPTION GOING FORWARD WITH TODAY? YES, THAT'S, THAT IS THE BIG ONE TODAY. 
          MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH CHOOSING OPTION TWO. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I, WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE IS HAVE US BE SHORT TERM THINKING ABOUT THIS, UM, AND SAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST SKATE BY WITH THE LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION WHEN WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT IS THE LESSER OF ALL THREE OPTIONS. 
          IT WILL NOT PROVIDE WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE WITH A VIBRANT HUB. 
          UM, WE KNOW HOW MUCH ARTS DRIVES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'VE SEEN IT IN NORTH BEACH WITH AS ORGANIC GROWTH. 
          WE SAW IT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE IT ANYTIME THAT WE DO, UM, MUSIC FESTIVALS OR THE SOUTH BEACH JAZZ FESTIVAL WHERE PEOPLE COME IN FOR EVENTS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. 
          SO THIS IS NOT JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHILE THEY WILL GET THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT FROM IT, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING AND A RECORDING STUDIO FOR STUDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, PLACES MORE PLACES TO DO THINGS WHERE, REMEMBER, NORTH BEACH DOESN'T HAVE THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY FACILITY OR THE FILLMORE FACILITY. 
          UH, THERE, THERE'S ALMOST NO PLACE TO MEET FOR RESIDENT GROUPS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME THAT COME ONLINE EVENTUALLY, BUT THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A VISIONARY PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY IN GENERAL AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IN IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WE HAVE, UM, 13 NEW SIGNIFICANTLY DENSE BUILDINGS COMING UP IN AN EIGHT BY SIX BLOCK RADIUS. 
          AND THOSE WILL BE FILLED BY AT LEAST SOME FULL-TIME RESIDENTS. 
          NOT TO MENTION ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE LESS THAN IDEAL SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. 
          WE NEED TO GIVE FOLKS SOMETHING TO DO. 
          UM, THIS WILL BE AN AMAZING, INCREDIBLY WELL PROGRAMMED FACILITY. 
          WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE MAJOR ARTS, UH, CULTURAL INSTITUTES IN SOUTH FLORIDA, CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO BE A PART OF THIS. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BUILDING IT AND HOPING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO, UM, USE IT. 
          WE ARE BUILDING IT AND WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A LIST AS LONG AS OUR ARM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO JUMP IN AS SOON AS THE DOORS ARE OPENED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TALKED LAST YEAR ABOUT THE FILLMORE AND, AND RENOVATING THAT, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE FOR A SINGLE USE FUNCTION WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND, AND MULTIMODALITY, UM, THAT THIS PROVIDES. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT, GOING WITH OPTION TWO, PROVIDING THAT CLEAR DIRECTION AND WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EVEN START THE WORK OF FIGURING OUT THE FINANCING UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT OUR, OUR ASK IS GONNA BE AND HOW WE CAN JUSTIFY ASKING FOR MONEY FROM THIS GRANT OR GOING OUT TO, UM, PRIVATE DONATIONS FOR THAT PART OF IT. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR FEATHER IN OUR COLLECTIVE CITY'S CAP. 
          AND WITHOUT THIS CLEAR DIRECTION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A REAL ROBUST FACILITY THAT IS OURS IN PERPETUITY, UM, WE CAN'T 
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MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO I, I WOULD SAY LET'S DO OPTION TWO AND AFTER THE APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION, I WOULD MOVE IT. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE, APART FROM GETTING IT RIGHT, IS THE EXPEDIENCY OF IT. 
          THE, THE SITE HAS ALREADY BEEN CLOSED FOR A DECADE, UM, WHICH IS WAY TOO LONG. 
          AND IT'S LIGHTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I, I'M ALL FOR OPTION TWO, WHICH IS THE LARGER THEATER WITH DIFFERENT SPACES. 
          OBVIOUSLY OPTION ONE WITH ONE THEATER IS NOT AN OPTION. 
          NO. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE THAT FUNDING GAP OF LIKE $15.6 MILLION. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO THAT BRINGS IT TO 18, WHICH LOWERS IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I JUST DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT UP IN A BIG FUNDRAISING THING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WANNA SEE A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. 
          SO I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE FORWARD AND LIKE START THE BUILDING. 
          YES. 
          AS WE, IF WE NEEDED TO, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT, I MEAN, LIKE ONCE WE DECIDE AND YOU PUT THIS OUT FOR RFP, I'D LIKE TO SEE A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND LIKE WITHIN A YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY, YOU HAVE, WE HAVE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD, DANIEL. 
          'CAUSE WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE THAT SPACE EMPTY. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I, THE ONE GOOD THING IS THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, THAT WE DID DO ON COLLINS PARK WHEN THE SHOVEL WENT IN THE GROUND, I MEAN LIKE SIX MONTHS LATER WAS BUILT. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK GETTING THE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IF PART OF HIS UNFUNDED, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE UP THAT FUNDING, RIGHT, JASON? YEAH. 
          SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO DANIEL. 
          UM, SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS GONNA BE A JIGSAW PUZZLE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF AVENUES TO, TO SUPPLEMENT THE FUNDING ON THIS. 
          PART OF IT IS ONCE WE DEFINE WHAT WE WANT AND THE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THE LAND BEING ONE OF THEM, THE $30 MILLION FOR THE CULTURAL COMPONENT IS ANOTHER. 
          THE $4 MILLION UP TO, I'M SORRY, UP TO $4 MILLION FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ANOTHER, UH, UH, PRIVATE DONATIONS IF WE WERE TO ENGAGE FRIENDS OF THE BYRON, UH, IS ANOTHER, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE PUT TOWARDS THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE. 
          WHAT CAN YOU BRING TO THE TABLE? AND THE DEVELOPER MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE $4 MILLION TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, POTENTIALLY WE CAN OFFSET $6 MILLION WORTH OF COSTS FOR THE CULTURAL. 
          THESE ARE ALL THE, THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE WILL HAPPEN ONCE WE DEFINE WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE. 
          SO, UH, AND, AND TO SPEAK TO THE EXPEDIENCY, I I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. 
          UH, I WE'RE TREADING VERY CAREFULLY RIGHT NOW, UH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH OUR EXPECTATIONS. 
          THIS, WE WENT INTO AN RFP FOR THE BYRON A A FEW YEARS BACK. 
          AND I THINK PART OF IT WAS THE, THE CITY DID NOT PRESCRIBE WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS EXPECTED AND THE DEVELOPER CAME BACK AND IT WAS NOT WHAT ANYBODY WANTED. 
          UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE GO TO RFP WE'RE VERY CLEAR WITH THE DEVELOPER, THESE ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS AND SET IT UP SO THAT ONE, IF THERE IS INTEREST, IF WE GET MULTIPLE, UH, BIDDERS ON THIS, THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT OUT THE, THE PROCESS WELL ENOUGH THAT THERE WILL BE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY NO SURPRISES, BUT LESS SURPRISES. 
          ONE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE, UH, WITH THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE IN THAT AREA IS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE BUILDING 387 SQUARE FOOT UNITS AND CHARGING 2,500 BUCKS FOR THEM. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT IF THE CITY IS HEAVILY SUBSIDIZING THIS AND GIVING THE LAND, WE NEED LIKE A MINIMUM UNIT SIZE OF LIKE 550 SQUARE FEET. 
          AT LEAST THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THIS DEVELOPER AND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT LIKE AFFORDABLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY KEY. 
          LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN COLLINS PARK, WHICH IS REALLY NOT AFFORDABLE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF RAY BRESLIN HAS REACHED OUT TO YOU, BUT HE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT IT AND HE WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT THE PRICES. 
          UM, THAT CITAS IS CHARGING $2,500 FOR 387 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT IS  NOT WHERE WE WANNA GO IN NORTH BEACH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND NOT WHAT ANYONE IS GONNA PAY, BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU, $2,500 FOR 387 SQUARE FEET, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO EDGEWATER. 
          THEY'RE NOT. 
          IT'S, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          UM, SO YOU NEED, WE NEED TO PUT IN WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS IN, IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE UNIT SIZE IS GONNA BE AND WHAT THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME IS. 
          AND YOU NEED, AND YOU SPECIFY THIS IN THE RFP. 
          YES. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T WANT THAT, THEN WE DON'T WANT THEM. 
          AND WHERE WILL WE COME UP WITH THOSE TERMS? 'CAUSE THOSE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS. 
          I KNOW, UH, WHEN I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE, UH, INITIAL ITERATION YEARS AND YEARS AGO, IT, IT WAS ABOUT HAVING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COMPONENT ACTUALLY INCLUDED. 
          THAT, THAT JUST YEAH. 
          MADE NO SENSE TO ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY AND DO SOMETHING UNDER THE GUISE OF WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON CITY LAND AND WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          BUT I, I DON'T KNOW 
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IF THIS IS THE FORM WHERE WE'RE SITTING HERE MAPPING OUT THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS WE'D WANNA SEE IN AN RFP. 
          WHAT IS THE PROPER TIME OR FORMAT FOR THAT? SO THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED. 
          UH, THE NORTH BCRA, UH, WHEN THEY PUT THEIR SUPPORT BEHIND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THEY SPECIFIED NO MICRO UNITS, NO SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          SO, UH, WHERE WE LAND IN TERMS OF DEFINITION OF MICRO UNIT, UH, THAT WILL BE VETTED, UH, DURING THE RFP PROCESS AND WE CAN COME BACK AND, AND SUGGEST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MARKET OKAY, SO BEFORE IT'LL ACTUALLY GO OUT THE MARKET, WE CAN HAVE A LAST GLANCE AT THE TERMS. YES. 
          YEAH, BY ALL MEANS. 
          UM, ALSO THE, SO THERE'S A COUPLE DEFINITIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, AND ONE IS THE, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS UP TO 120%, UM, OF A MI. 
          UH, THERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROJECT YET, BUT COULD BE ON THE TABLE AND DOES OPEN OTHER FEDERAL AND STATE, UH, FINANCING OPTIONS. 
          AND THAT IS, UH, BETWEEN 60 AND 80, I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER 80% A MI AND, AND DANIEL, HOW DOES IT WORK? SO OKAY, IF YOU CAN GO UP TO 120% A MI JUST FOR SIMPLICITY'S SAKE, LET'S SAY THAT EQUATES TO $2,500, AS COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ POINTED OUT, IT'S HAPPENING IN COLLINS PARK. 
          UH, MAYBE THE ISSUE ISN'T THAT THERE'S UNITS FOR $2,500, BUT IT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FOR THAT $2,500. 
          RIGHT? SO MAYBE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, WHO ARE WE TO REWRITE WHAT AREA A MI IS? BUT IT'S WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE. 
          SO IF WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY, UM, PUT A FLOOR ON THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE, MAYBE WE FEEL A LOT BETTER. 
          IF YOU'RE GETTING A 550 SQUARE FOOT UNIT FOR $2,500, THERE'S NO KIND OF LIKE, UH, SLIDING SCALE FOR UNIT SIZE VERSUS YOUR PRICE. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO IF WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY PUT A FLOOR ON MINIMUM UNIT SIZE, THAT ONE BEDROOM WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE, LET'S USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF $2,500. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S 120% A MII WILL BE EDUCATING MYSELF ON THAT. 
          , JUST, JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, I LEASED OUT AN APARTMENT BEHIND THE BASS. 
          UM, LAST YEAR. 
          UH, I THINK I, WE DID A, A FULL YEAR LEASE ON THAT APARTMENT. 
          I THINK THE APARTMENT WAS 750 SQUARE FEET AND I LEASED IT UP FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, $2,800 PER MONTH IN OUR PLACE WHERE WE GAVE THE LAND AND WE GAVE A $10 MILLION SUBSIDY. 
          A 500 SQUARE FOOT UNIT IS, IS GOING FOR WHAT, RAQUEL? OVER $3,000, $3,500. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE TOOK OUR PUBLIC MONEY AND OUR PUBLIC SUBSIDY, AND WE INVESTED IT OVER THERE IN COLLINS PARK IN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE, BUT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. 
          I I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ADJUST THESE PRICES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD FIND THEM IN VIOLATION OF SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT IF THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON CHARGING. 
          SO, GOOD MORNING, AL WILLIAMS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE COLLINS PARK ARTIST WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT. 
          SO THE LEASE STIPULATES THAT THE, UH, A MI LEVEL FOR THE PROJECT IS 120%. 
          HOWEVER, IN FUTURE YEARS, THE PROJECT CAN BE ADJUSTED TO GO TO A MI LEVELS THAT ARE LOWER. 
          SO A HUNDRED PERCENT A MI AS OPPOSED TO 120% A MI, UH, HUD AND THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION EACH YEAR SETS THE A MI LEVELS AND THE INCOME LEVELS FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS. 
          THERE'S NO UNIT IN THE PROJECT THAT WILL BE, UH, THAT WILL HAVE A RENTAL RATE THAT IS ABOVE WHAT IS STIPULATED BY HUD AND FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. 
          THE UNITS ARE ALL ABOVE THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE REQUIRED BY CODE. 
          SO FOR STUDIOS, WE HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 418 AND 486 SQUARE FEET FOR ONE BEDROOMS, 481 TO 513 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND FOR TWO BEDROOMS, 695 TO 807 SQUARE FEET, THE RENTAL RATES RANGE FROM 2300, UH, AT THE STUDIO LEVEL, 20 503,000 FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS. UH, HEY, RAQUEL, CAN I JUST ASK LIKE A MECHANICAL QUESTION OF HOW THAT WORKS? SO IF YOU ARE CAPPED BY 120% A MI, AND THAT'S FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL, RIGHT? I THINK A MI FOR A SINGLE PERSON THERE, 79,000. 
          SO ONE 20 IS LIKE 94,000, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          IT'S BASED ON CAN THEY PRICE A STUDIO AS THE SAME AS A ONE BEDROOM IF THERE'S A SINGLE OCCUPANT IN EITHER ONE. 
          HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THIS IS ALL BASED ON HOUSEHOLD SIZE. 
          SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A HOUSEHOLD WITH FOUR MEMBERS IN IT, THEY WOULD LOOK AT ALL THE INCOMES GENERATED FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD, AND THOSE LIMITATIONS WOULD DICTATE IF YOU WERE ELIGIBLE TO RENT THAT, RIGHT? 
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BUT IF I'M JUST ONE PERSON, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          UM, GETTING A STUDIO VERSUS A ONE BEDROOM, I'M SURE THERE'S A PRICE DIFFERENTIAL, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DICTATES THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE CAPPED AT 120% A MI ARE, ARE WE SAYING THERE'S HOUSEHOLDS WITH GREATER THAN ONE PERSON IN THE ONE BEDROOM AND THEY GET PREFERENCE THERE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHERE IF I'M CAPPED AT SAY, PAYING $2,300, WHY WOULD I GET A STUDIO VERSUS A ONE BEDROOM? SO IF YOUR LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY ALLOWED YOU TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A STUDIO VERSUS A ONE BEDROOM, THAT WOULD BE ON THE HOUSEHOLD TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHICH UNIT YOU'D LIKE TO BE IN. 
          AND JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, THERE IS A PREFERENCE ESTABLISHED FOR THE PROJECT THAT INCLUDES ARTISTS, EDUCATORS, CITY, EMPLOYEES, FIRST RESPONDERS, THE FIRST FOUR WORDS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. 
          THEN I GO, AHA. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES. 
          SO I I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. 
          I I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT OUT OF TODAY'S VOTE AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PORTION THAT YOU NEED TO, TO, UM, PROCEED WITH, WHICH IS OPTION NUMBER TWO. 
          AND HAVE YOU GUYS COME BACK, UH, BEFORE US WITH THE DATA? AND I KNOW THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN COLLINS PARK. 
          I'VE HEARD IT FROM A, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          UM, I THANK YOU RAQUEL, FOR COMING UP AND CORRECTING THE, THE FACTS. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE TRULY, UM, HOUSING FOR THE MISSING MIDDLE, UM, OR ATTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          AND IT, IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO BE CLEAR ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          SO THERE'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S THE MISSING MIDDLE. 
          WHAT, WHAT COMBINATION OF WHICH PRICE LEVELS ARE WE GOING TO BE BUILDING FOR? WHAT CAN WE AFFORD TO BUILD FOR? CAN WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF TWO OR THREE KINDS? SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND HOW BIG CAN WE MAKE THE UNITS? UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS GONNA HAVE. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE GYMS AND SWIMMING POOLS, BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE IN A BRAND NEW, BEAUTIFUL, UM, BUILDING THAT IS ON TOP OF ONE OF THE COOLEST ARTS COMPLEXES IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF, OF NORTH BEACH AND BLOCKS FROM THE OCEAN. 
          SO, SO THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF AMENITIES. 
          HANG ON ONE SECOND PLEASE. 
          SO I WANNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, I DON'T WANNA DERAIL TODAY'S VOTE WITH THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK IT, IT DESERVES, UM, MORE RESEARCH, MORE THOUGHT AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A ROBUST INQUIRY INTO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DELIVER FROM THAT. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU NEED TO DO THAT QUICKLY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA INFORM THE RFP, BUT I ALSO KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE RFP FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          YES. 
          SO MAYBE WE COULD, UM, BIFURCATE THIS DISCUSSION AND MOVE FORWARD ON, UM, GIVING YOU DIRECTION FOR OPTION TWO AND ASK YOU TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MONTH. 
          SO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MONTH TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, UM, HOUSING PART OF THIS AND WHAT IS THE, THE BEST COMBINATION OF FACTORS THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE IT WORK AND TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF GRANTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? YEAH. 
          IF THE HOUSING PORTION AND NOT ONLY DID IT IN COLLINS PARK, DID I LEASE OUT THAT ONE UNIT FOR 2,800 THAT'S FAR LARGER THAN WHAT WE BUILT. 
          BUT, UM, ON PENNSYLVANIA 13TH, I RECENTLY LEASED OUT ANOTHER UNIT THAT WAS, UM, $1,900 PER MONTH, AND THAT WAS AROUND 650 SQUARE FEET. 
          IF WHAT WE'RE BUILDING IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT CURRENTLY IS, I WOULD REMOVE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PORTION. 
          THIS IS, I, YOU SHOULD NOT, WE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HOUSING PORTION OF THIS UNLESS THEY ARE GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE BELOW THE MARKET RATE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS. 
          OR AT THE MARKET RATE, WHY WOULD WE GIVE THEM LAND AND THEN SUBSIDIZE THEM AND THEN HAVE THEM PRODUCE HOUSING THAT IS SMALLER THAN WHAT IS AVAILABLE AT A HIGHER PRICE PER SQUARE FOOTAGE? THAT TO ME DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER TAKE THAT MONEY AND BUY EXISTING UNITS. 
          JUST LISTEN, I WOULD RATHER TAKE THAT MONEY. 
          YOU WANT TO WANNA DO THIS, TAKE $5 MILLION AND BUY 20, 30 UNITS IN NORTH BEACH, WHICH YOU COULD, WHICH WOULD BE LARGER, AND YOU WOULD GET A BETTER PRICE PER SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          WE WOULD GET MUCH MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK, AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE ENTIRE BAR AND CARLISLE BUILT AT A MUCH QUICKER PACE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNLESS WE SAY IN THIS RFP THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THAT, THAT, THAT WE WANT WHAT WE, THE WHAT WE WANT. 
          AND THAT, AND, AND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT DOWN WHAT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS, AND THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA COME BACK AND HE'S GONNA GO, NOPE. 
          AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY WANT THIS LEASE, BECAUSE IT'S, I I, WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS WHAT HAPPENED IN COLLINS PARK. 
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I AM, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT VERY PLEASED WITH. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SPENDING OUR MONEY THIS WAY, BECAUSE I THINK, LET'S SAY WE HAD SOLD THAT PIECE OF LAND. 
          JUST LET, LET'S SAY WE HAD SOLD THAT PIECE OF LAND AND TAKEN $10 MILLION. 
          HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL DID WE GET IN COLLINS PARK? 80 NUMBER OF UNITS AT COLLINS PARK. 
          80. 
          OKAY. 
          HAD WE TAKEN 20 MILLION BUCKS AND BOUGHT EXISTING UNITS, WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN LARGER UNITS, OKAY. 
          AT A BETTER PRICE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW. 
          IF I MAY, AND BY THE WAY, UM, I WENT ON THE WEBSITE, I ACTUALLY LOOKED, THERE WAS NO IN MISINFORMATION INITIALLY. 
          IT SAID 387 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT DID NOT SAY 418 SQUARE FEET. 
          I JUST WANNA CORRECT WHAT I READ BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW WHY I REMEMBERED IT PERFECTLY, BUT IT WAS 387 SQUARE FEET AND THE PRICE WAS, UM, $2,500. 
          SO NOW THE PRICE HAS BECOME $2,300 AND 418 SQUARE FEET. 
          OKAY? THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE DISCREPANCY THERE, BUT WHAT I READ VERY, VERY CLEARLY WAS 387 SQUARE FEET AND $2,500. 
          SO SOME I, SOMETHING, SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN AND MEASURE A UNIT AND SEE WHAT REALLY IS, IS IT 387 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE WE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS, OR IS IT 418 SQUARE FEET? AND WHY DID THEY HAVE THE $2,500 PRICE? AND NOW YOU'RE QUOTING US WITH THE 23 $300 PRICE. 
          I JUST WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND I THINK I READ IT, I THINK I READ IT IN A CITY MEMO. 
          WELL, I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT DISCREPANCY YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN THIS LEASE AGREEMENT WAS CONTEMPLATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, WE WERE QUOTING A MI RATES DURING THAT TIME. 
          SO THAT GETS ADJUSTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BASED ON WHAT HUD AND THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION SAID FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. 
          SO IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT WHATEVER WAS PUT OUT THERE IN 20 22, 20 23, AND EVEN MORE RECENTLY, WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, BECAUSE THE RATES HAVE BEEN SET AT THIS POINT NOW THAT THEY'RE READY TO LEASE UP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S, SO COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT THAT SOME OF OUR HOUSING IN OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED PRICE ELASTICITY IN A 500 SQUARE FOOT UNIT, I'M GOING TO VENTURE AND GUESS THAT THOSE WERE PROBABLY BUILT IN 19 50, 19 60. 
          ALONG THOSE LINES, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH PRICE ELASTICITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE REFER TO IT, REPORT OF EMERGENCY AS OUR NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LEAVE THE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY. 
          DO NOT USE THE ELEVATOR AND STAIRWELLS WHERE NECESSARILY ALL HANDICAP OCCUPANTS SHALL USE THE BUILDING EVACUATION PLAN. 
          IF I MAY RENOVATED TOTALLY RENOVATED UNITS, BY THE WAY, AT 1900, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOURAGE, I I JUST WANT COMMISSIONER BOT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING. 
          I, I JUST DON'T WANT, I, I DON'T WANT US TO GET ROBBED AGAIN. 
          AND I'M GONNA REALLY FIGHT FOR THAT BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IS YOU CAN FIND THE HOUSING THAT YOU POTENTIALLY MIGHT WANT TO BUILD MIGHT NOT BE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE. 
          AND IF WE COULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND WE COULD BUY REAL UNITS WHERE REAL ARTISTS AND WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO THAT? WELL, BECAUSE THOSE UNITS ARE ALREADY ON MARKET, SO IT WOULDN'T BE ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPLY, RIGHT? SO IF THOSE ARE ALREADY OUT ON THE MARKET, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY OWNING THAT WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS IF THEY'RE BEING TORN DOWN AND CONVERTED INTO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO THERE'S ALREADY THAT STOCK. 
          SO THIS INITIATIVE IS ACTUALLY BRINGING ON OTHER HOUSING STOCKS. 
          SO JUST BECAUSE THOSE UNITS EXIST, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S THE MARKET PRICE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO 500 SQUARE FOOT UNITS IN THE CITY FOR $6,000 A MONTH OR $7,000 PER MONTH, RIGHT? IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF INVENTORY AND THE LOCATION THAT IT IS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THOSE HISTORIC AREAS, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING ON MORE SUPPLY BECAUSE THERE'S A SIMPLE RULE OF ECONOMICS. 
          NONE OF US CAN ESCAPE, RIGHT? AND THAT SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND, THE LESS SUPPLY THAT WE HAVE ON WITH EQUAL OR INCREASING DEMAND, THE HIGHER PRICES ARE GOING TO GO. 
          SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND ADD, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, A NEEDLE MOVING AMOUNT, WE'RE STARTING TO CHIP AWAY AT IT, UM, THAT WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL STOCK WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THAT NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES IN OUR CITY IS INCREASING THE TYPE OF INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? WE HAVE A VERY BIFURCATED MARKET. 
          WE HAVE, UH, ANYTHING THAT COMES ON AT THE ULTRA LUXURY HIGH END, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, AT THE LOWER END. 
          AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TO QUOTE YOUR 
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TERM THAT, THAT WE'VE BOTH OWED A LOT, THAT MISSING MIDDLE, THAT'S OUT. 
          SO, UH, THIS HELPING THE CITY SUBSIDIZE IT IS PROVIDING A TYPE OF HOUSING INVENTORY THAT REALLY DOESN'T EXIST IN OUR CITY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND TO, TO ME, IT'S NOT A BINARY CHOICE. 
          IT'S NOT EITHER OR. 
          IF WE CAN ADD UNITS, AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT THEY, IT'S US. 
          WE OWN THE LAND. 
          OUR RENTS FROM THOSE HOUSING UNITS WILL HELP SUBSIDIZE THE PROGRAMMING AT THIS FACILITY. 
          IT'S US, IT'S OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S OUR CITY, IT'S OUR LAND, IT'S OUR FACILITY. 
          AND SO, UM, I I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT RUBIK'S CUBE COMBINATION IS OF SIZE AND INCOME. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A BUILDING THAT'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, STARTER, UM, UM, MICRO UNITS AT $800,000 PURCHASE PRICE, BUT BE ABLE TO RENT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          LIKE THAT IS A PRETTY COOL THING. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          IT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY WHO CURRENTLY CLOG OUR ROADS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DRIVE IN AND OUT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT TO LIVE HERE. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A $1,900 A MONTH, WALK UP DEEP IN THE HEART OF NORTH BEACH WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AIR CONDITIONING IS, IS WINDOW UNITS AND IT'S NOT GREAT. 
          LIKE THERE ARE GONNA BE, IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INVENTORY THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET. 
          AND I AM QUITE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL FIND TAKERS FOR IT. 
          AND IF, IF I MAY CONTINUE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF BUYING, UH, EXISTING BUILDINGS AND NOT DEMOLISHING IT, BUT RENOVATING THEM. 
          I THINK THAT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA BECAUSE IT DOES PRESERVES THE CHARACTER AND LIKE, I LOVE IT AND IT'S EFFICIENT AND IT'S QUICK. 
          SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BINARY CHOICE. 
          IT IS ADDITIVE. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING INVENTORY THAT DOES NOT REALLY EXIST NOW. 
          I THINK FOR BETTER OR WORSE, THE VERITAS MODEL WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM, AND WE CAN, UM, CONFIGURE WHAT WE WANNA DO BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. 
          I MEAN, DOING SOMETHING THE FIRST TIME IS HARD AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT KNOWLEDGE. 
          I REALLY WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD THOUGH. 
          I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT TODAY. 
          WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO GIVE THESE FOLKS THE GUIDANCE THEY NEED, BLESS YOU, THE GUIDANCE THEY NEED TO KEEP WORKING. 
          THE RFP ISN'T GONNA BE READY NEXT MONTH. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. 
          AND SO LET'S CALL THE VOTE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD, CONTINUE THE ITEM, UM, CALL THE VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, BUT CONTINUE THE ITEM SO YOU COME BACK. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE TIME TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING COMPONENT OF THIS SO WE GET WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE WITHOUT CUTTING OFF OUR NOSES TO SPITE OUR FACES. 
          WILL YOU AGREE TO A MINIMUM UNIT SIZE IN THIS BUILDING OF 500 SQUARE FEET? I'M NOT AGREEING TO ANYTHING UNTIL I DO THE WORK. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE IT HAS TO BE BIGGER. 
          MAYBE THAT'S NOT EVEN BIG ENOUGH. 
          I AGREE IN PRINCIPLE, I WILL NEVER, AND I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK ME ALL THE TIME, WILL YOU COMMIT TO X? I'M LIKE, NOT UNTIL I'VE READ THE DATA, NOT UNTIL I'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS ASKED THE QUESTIONS IN PRINCIPLE, YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          BUT NOT UNTIL I DO MY WORK. 
          OKAY? BUT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SAY TO THIS DEVELOPER. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS LAND. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT NEXT WOULD, LIKE, NEXT MEETING WILL BE ABOUT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO LET ME DO MY WORK, LET ME DO THE RESEARCH WITH OUR STAFF WHO KNOWS MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO. 
          LET US FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST POSSIBLE SET OF OPTIONS WILL BE AS WE ARE ABLE TO PUT THEM TOGETHER. 
          I THINK WE'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE WANT REASONABLY SIZED MINIMUM UNIT SIZES. 
          AND SO GIVE US A MONTH TO DO THE WORK. 
          I'M NOT COM COMMITTING TO ANYTHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COMMISSIONER, IF I, IF I COULD TO HELP FACILITATE, JUST TO THINK, TO CONSOLIDATE. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S JUST TWO PARTS AND I, YOU KNOW, TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF. 
          SO I, I THINK THE HOPE HERE IS THAT THIS ITEM WOULD RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT USING SCENARIO TWO TO MODEL THE PROFORMA FOR, UH, THE OPERATING PROFORMA AND TO RETAIN THE ITEM AND OF RETURN FOR DISCUSSION ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SYNOPSIS OF YOUR, YOUR MOTION? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND, AND THE RFP TERMS WILL GO TO THE, WHEN THEY'RE FINAL AND PREPARED, THEY WILL GO TO THE FULL COMMISSION? THEY CAN, YES. 
          YEP. 
          SO, COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ, I THINK WE'VE GIVEN STAFF CLEAR INDICATION WITHOUT SPECIFYING THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, IT SHOULD BE FOUR 50 VERSUS FIVE VERSUS FIVE 50. 
          BUT I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL DIRECTION THAT WE WANNA SEE GO IN. 
          AND THIS WILL COME BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION WITH THOSE SPECIFIED TERMS BEFORE GOING OUT TO MARKET. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO SIT THERE AND FURTHER DISSECT WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          AND THE DISCUSSION WILL BE MORE, MORE NEXT MONTH. 
          THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS. 
          YEP. 
          AS YOU KNOW. 
          BUT I THINK IS, IS, AS COMMISSIONER BOT WANTS TO, AND BY THE WAY, IT WASN'T AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. 
          I MEAN, I SAT THERE THROUGH ALL THESE LAND USE, UH, MEETINGS WHERE WE DECREASED THE AVERAGE UNIT SIZE FROM LIKE 650 SQUARE FEET, THEN IT WENT TO 550 SQUARE FEET, THEN IT WENT TO 450 
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SQUARE FEET AND JUST GOT WAY TOO SMALL. 
          REALLY, THOSE ARE TWEAKS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          BUT MY POINT IS, EVEN THOUGH CERTAIN DEVELOPERS SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA BUILD, WE WANNA BUILD THESE MICRO UNITS. 
          IF WE'RE DOING THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY THE SAME. 
          AND I THINK YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT THERE. 
          SO, I MEAN, I SAID 500 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A, A, A, BUT, BUT MAYBE IT, IT SHOULD BE BIGGER MINIMUM. 
          AND MAYBE THERE'S ROOM TO MAKE IT BIGGER. 
          WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT BIGGER IF YOU, SO, BUT THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANNA COMMIT TO ANYTHING. 
          BUT WE, I, WHAT I WILL COMMIT TO WHAT I'VE SAID FROM DAY ONE IS NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND NO MICRO UNITS FULL STOP. 
          AND THAT IS, IT'S OUR PROPERTY REMAINS OUR PROPERTY. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE ARE DOING THAT. 
          THAT IS BAKED IN FROM, FROM THE GET GO. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT, WHAT IT HAS TO DO IS COMPETE WITH THE MARKETPLACE. 
          IT HAS TO BE COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS GONNA BE ULTRA TINI, THEN I, I DON'T KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CITAS PROJECT IS LEASED OUT. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENED AT THE, ON THE MARKETPLACE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE'LL SEE. 
          DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT OR IF THE MIAMI CITY BALLET AND NEW WORLD SIMPSON ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THIS HOUSING. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, A A BALLERINA FOR EXAMPLE, ISN'T GONNA COMPLAIN IF THE HOUSING'S BEING PAID FOR, FOR HER. 
          DO YOU UNDERSTAND? BUT ALSO, REMEMBER, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT STUDIOS. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER TWO BEDROOMS. LIKE THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE. 
          THIS IS THE VISION. 
          IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE, NOT JUST COME HOME, SHOWER, GO TO BED AND LEAVE. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MICRO UNITS. 
          THIS IS COMMUNITY BUILDING. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL ALIGNED IN THE MACRO VISION. 
          WE WANNA SEE, WE WILL GIVE STAFF THE FIRST CRACK AT SPECIFYING WHAT THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE. 
          RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE 4 80, 500, 5 20. 
          TAKE A SHOT AND TELL US WHY THOSE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE. 
          BUT I THINK YOU HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION UP HERE. 
          WE DON'T WANNA SEE MERCURY UNITS AND WE DON'T WANNA SEE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND WE WILL RETURN, WE WILL RETURN TO FERC, UH, WITH A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT, THAT THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO WE CAN GET DIRECTION ON THAT ASPECT. 
          YEP. 
          BUT THERE'S A, THE COMMISSIONER HAS A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT. 
          ALL SECOND. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, 
          [NB 18. DISCUSS CONSIDERING OUTDOOR DINING CONCESSION FEE REDUCTIONS DURING SUMMER MONTHS AND FEE ABATEMENT FOR NEW BUSINESSES]
DO YOU WANT TO HEAR YOUR OUTDOOR DINING CONCESSION, UH, ITEM? UM, SURE. 
          LEMME QUEUE THAT UP. 
          THAT IS ITEM NB 18 DISCUSS CONSIDERING OUTDOOR DINING CONCESSION FEE REDUCTIONS DURING SUMMER MONTHS AND FEE ABATEMENT FOR NEW BUSINESSES. 
          NB 18. 
          I SHOULD TEE THAT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN WE DID SOME ANALYSIS PULLING MILA, OF COURSE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OUT OF THE MIX. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT SKEWS THE DATA ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE REVENUE IS. 
          WE SAW THAT A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS ON LINCOLN ROAD, UM, I'VE SEEN A DECLINE IN REVENUE. 
          THERE'S SOME OF OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE APPROACHED ME AND SAID, WE NEED SOME HELP IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. 
          AND WHILE I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A PERMANENT THING, I THINK THAT WHILE THE DELANO IS CLOSED AND THE SHORE CLUB IS CLOSED, AND WHAT ELSE IS CLOSED, UH, THE RALEIGH IS BEING BUILT. 
          THERE'S A, ALL OF THOSE HOTELS ARE CLOSED, AND THESE RESTAURANTS, SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS ARE CLOSING. 
          SO IF THEY ASKED FOR MINIMAL RELIEF IN A FEW MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, THAT WE, THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THEM. 
          IS IT THE, A LARGE SUBSIDY? NO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'LL MAKE THEIR PAYROLL FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE THE OTHER SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, FUND TOO, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S GONNA GO SO QUICKLY FROM DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AROUND THE CITY AS WE BECOME HYPER SEASONAL, UM, UNTIL WE GET THAT CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL BUILT. 
          AND UNTIL THOSE OTHER PROJECTS ARE ONLINE, I MEAN, I THINK THEY NEED RELIEF. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK WE DECIDED, I KNOW THAT JASON DIDN'T SEEM VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHEN SOMEBODY OPENS UP GIVING THEM AN ABATEMENT FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PAYING RENT AND SPENDING WAY TOO MUCH TIME TO GET OPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO ONE THING THAT WE CAN OFFER AND WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AN ABATEMENT THE FIRST THREE MONTHS THAT YOU OPEN BECAUSE WE TORTURED YOU THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          LET US GIVE BACK TO YOU. 
          THAT'S AN INCENTIVE, RIGHT? SO LIKE, GIVING THEM AN ABATEMENT, AND THEN I WOULD SAY AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND OCTOBER, IF THEY APPLY, WE'LL PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          THEY DON'T APPLY. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY IF LIKE, THEY COULD APPLY TO GET THE ABATEMENT. 
          AND IF THEY DO, THEN THEY'LL GET IT. 
          AND WHY WOULDN'T WE DO THAT? SO IS THIS SPECIFIED TO THE LINCOLN ROAD AREA? I WOULD ONLY DO IT ON LINCOLN ROAD. 
          LET'S, UH, HAND IT OVER TO STAFF AND SEE WHAT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE. 
          WHILE I AGREE THAT OUR BUSINESSES NEED HELP, UM, APPREHENSIVE ABOUT JUST KIND OF BANDAID APPROACH. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS THE SYMPTOM, BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE CURE. 
          MAYBE IF THIS IS GETTING US TO THE CURE, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BRIDGE. 
          BUT LET, LET'S HEAR FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT QUANTIFY SOME OF THESE NUMBERS. 
          COMMISSIONER, GOOD MORNING. 
          JAY FINK, DEPUTY 
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DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UM, AND, UH, THROUGH YOU, UH, MR. CHAIR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD LOOKED AND THE, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED ARE IN TOTALITY, NOT JUST LINCOLN ROAD. 
          UM, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY A $250,000 REDUCTION IN REVENUE. 
          SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH A, A THREE MONTH, UH, PARDON IF YOU WILL, OR ABATEMENT. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE DISCOUNTED FOR LINK LINCOLN ROAD. 
          IF WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT LINCOLN ROAD, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER HERE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN GENERATE THAT OR HAVE IT GENERATED IN, IN QUICKTIME. 
          BUT TWO 50 IS CITYWIDE, CITYWIDE AND LINCOLN ROAD BEING A FRACTION. 
          SO, I MEAN, COULD MINIMAL, COULD WE SAY LESS THAN 20% OF CITYWIDE? WOULD THAT BE A FAIR, JUST THERE'S A LOT OF THE OUTDOOR CONCESSION. 
          THERE'S, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, OCEAN, OCEAN DRIVE AND LINCOLN ROAD ARE THE TWO MAIN DRIVERS. 
          BUT I THINK WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN SOME DATA THERE, BUT MAYBE NOT MORE THAN A THIRD. 
          CORRECT? I I WOULD, I WOULD, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS OFF THE CUFF. 
          IT'S, IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO TALK IN THAT BALLPARK. 
          YEP. 
          AND WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GIVING MONEY. 
          WE'RE ESSENTIALLY FOREGOING REVENUE COMING IN, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          NOW, IT DRIVES ME NUTS WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE, IT'S USUALLY IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROVIDING TAX RELIEF VERSUS ACTUALLY THEN GIVING MONEY TO SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE TURNING AROUND AND GIVING TAXPAYER MONEY TO SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOME SORT OF TAX RELIEF. 
          AND IT'S RIGHT FROM THE FINANCIAL POINT, IT'S A REDUCTION IN THE REVENUE THAT GOES TO THE BUDGET AND ELSE WE'RE NOT TAKING IN FROM ONE HAND AND HANDING OUT TO THE OTHER. 
          WE, WE SEE AS WE WOULD SEE A SHORTAGE IN OUR, UH, GENERAL FUND REVENUES. 
          AND I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT THE, THE, THE DIFFICULTIES WE'LL HAVE WITH THE UPCOMING BUDGET, UH, WITH THE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION. 
          I CAN DISCUSS LATER DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICIES ABOUT THE, UH, TAX COLLECTORS, YOU KNOW, 2% FEE ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES. 
          SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT TOUGH. 
          BUT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IT SEEMS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT LINCOLN ROAD ABATEMENT PROGRAM FOR I GUESS THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR SO, THAT THE HOTELS ARE OPEN 50% FOR THE SIX MONTHS DURING THE, BECAUSE WE BUILD THEM IN SIX MONTHS. 
          WE DON'T BUILD THEM BY MONTH. 
          SO I THINK IS A, IT'S A 50% REDUCTION FOR ONE OF THE, THE TWO PERIODS. 
          OH, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, AND THAT TWO 50 NUMBER IS, UH, PER ANNUM. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          SO DIVIDE THAT BY FOUR. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN LINCOLN ROAD IS ONLY A FRACTION OF THAT. 
          WE'RE TALKING IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HERE. 
          IT'S NOT, WELL, WE BRING IN ABOUT, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, AROUND $2 MILLION A YEAR IN OUTDOOR CONCESSION AREAS. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE THE, THE PERCENTAGE LINCOLN ROAD BEING A THIRD, MAYBE 750,000. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 50% OF ONE OF THE SIX MONTH WINDOWS, IT'S REALLY 25%. 
          WHERE, WHERE'S THE 250 K COMING FROM? PROBABLY FROM THE 50% OF THE SIX, SIX MONTH 50%. 
          THE 50% ABATEMENT FOR THE THREE MONTHS THAT WAS AH, SO THE TWO 50 WAS A PRORATED FOR JUST A FRACTION OF THE YEAR. 
          CORRECT. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS IT, IF I'M SORRY, IS IT, IT'S A 50% FOR THE THREE MONTH WINDOW? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT A LOT. 
          AND I, I WOULD DO BOTH. 
          MY MOTION WOULD BE WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR RESTAURANT THE FIRST THREE MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, GIVE YOU AN ABATEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS OPENING UP. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE JUST UNTIL WE OPEN THAT CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL. 
          SO LET'S DO IT ONE YEAR, MAYBE NOBODY APPLIES. 
          LET'S JUST DO IT FOR ONE YEAR. 
          FOR ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR PILOT. 
          LET'S GIVE THE 50% ABATEMENT FOR THE SIX FOR THE SIX MONTHS ONLY ON LINCOLN ROAD. 
          SO IF I CAN, SO IT'S A 50%, UH, FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF ANY NEW, UH, DINING ESTABLISHMENT AND A 50%, UH, FOR ONE OF THE, UM, WE, BECAUSE WE BILL IS A QUESTION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS. 
          WE BILL IN SIX MONTH WINDOWS, RIGHT? I PUT, I PUT ABATEMENT, I WOULD LIKE COMPLETE THREE MONTHS. 
          YOU OPEN A RESTAURANT IN MIAMI BEACH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THREE MONTHS FREE. 
          FREE 100%. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S REVENUE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S A GREAT ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO BRING RESTAURANTS HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ABATEMENT FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS FOR NEW BUSINESSES AND, UH, 50% REDUCTION FOR THOSE CAFES ON LINCOLN ROAD, UM, DURING THE MONTHS WHERE IT'S JUST, SO IS THAT FOR, FOR DURING A SIX MONTH WINDOW OVER THE NEXT ONE YEAR? I, I, BECAUSE I, I NEED THE PUBLIC WORKS AS OUR IMPLEMENTER, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE, I WOULD BUILD THIS. 
          SO, SO THE, YOU'RE TALKING SIX MONTH ABATEMENT MM-HMM . 
          THE, THE BILLS ARE GO OUT IN SIX MONTH INSTALLMENTS, RIGHT? SO THE MONTH OF OCTOBER'S ALREADY BEEN BILLED. 
          SO THE NEXT CYCLE, SO THE NEXT CYCLE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER, THE, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS PASSES THIS COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMISSION 
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MEMO, WE WILL HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS. 
          SO YOU CAN HAVE THOSE. 
          SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, AND THE, AND THE TIMING PROBABLY DOES MAKE SENSE. 
          AND IT WAS GOOD, IT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE. 
          'CAUSE THE TIMING IS WE CAN TRY TO GET THIS TO THE SECOND FEBRUARY COMMISSION MEETING. 
          IT WOULD BE THEN A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR THE, FOR THREE, THIS IS ON LINCOLN ROAD ONLY A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS. 
          UH, AND THEN 50% FOR THE APRIL TO SEPTEMBER, 2025 TIME PERIOD. 
          CORRECT? I WELL, I I THEY'RE GETTING THE BILL IN SEPTEMBER. 
          NO, THEY'RE GETTING, IT'LL BE GETTING THE BILL. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BILLED. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS BILL WILL BE, BUT WHEN, OKAY. 
          THE ONE BILL COMES OUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IS THE BILLING CYCLE? APRIL, THE SEPTEMBER WINDOW BILL WOULD GO OUT VERY SOON. 
          RIGHT? IN MARCH. 
          IT WOULD GO OUT IN MARCH. 
          SO MARCH WE WERE TO BRING IT TO THE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE IN MARCH EVERYBODY'S FLUSHED WITH CASH. 
          IT'S THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S THE ONE WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DISCOUNT WHEN NO REVENUE IS COMING IN WHATSOEVER. 
          WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE DISCOUNT AT THAT BILLING CYCLE. 
          THAT PROBABLY HITS LIKE WHAT, AUGUST? YES. 
          YEAH, I'M SAYING, SO THAT'S LIKE THE WORST MONTH SEPTEMBER FOR THE BUSINESSES. 
          I WOULD LIKE THE ABATEMENT TO SHOW ON THAT PAYMENT CYCLE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, DOES IT, IT'S GONNA BE MEANINGLESS FOR PEOPLE IN MARCH. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE OCTOBER, 2025 THROUGH MARCH, 2026. 
          UH, BUT ON PERIOD THAT, YEAH, ON THAT BILLING CYCLE, WE'RE GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS REALLY TO KEEP THESE BUSINESSES OPEN. 
          A LOT OF THEM, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE PAYING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RENT, AND I'M WALKING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING THEM LIKE, LIKE THEY MIGHT CLOSE. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE WORSE TO HAVE VACANCIES. 
          I'D LIKE TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO KEEP EXISTING BUSINESSES OPEN FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING KIND OF LIKE A SHIFT. 
          MAYBE SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT FOR THIS PERIOD RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE SO BAD TO HAVE MORE VACANCIES. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THEN ONCE YOU BUILD THAT CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, AND WE ARE MAXIMIZING THIS CONVENTION BUSINESS, AND THESE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE FINALLY REOPENED, EVERYTHING'S GONNA FLOURISH AGAIN. 
          I THINK WE'RE JUST IN LIKE A WEIRD KIND OF TWO OR THREE YEAR PERIOD WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO HELP OUT IN ANY WAY WE CAN. 
          I THINK IT'S LONGER THAN TWO OR THREE YEARS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THE DECLINE OF THAT ROAD FOR, UH, 10 YEARS. 
          AND WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISE, UM, THIS COMES A POINT, WE'RE GONNA ADD RESTAURANTS. 
          ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO ADD THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS? I REALLY QUESTION THAT. 
          UM, I THINK IT'LL CANNIBALIZE AND THE KAREEM WILL RISE TO THE TOP. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO, FOR EVERY RESTAURANT WE BRING ON, WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WORRY, AND IT, IT BEGRUDGES ME THAT WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION YEAR AFTER YEAR WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE WE CONTINUE TO JUST REMAIN THIS SEASONAL TOWN WHERE WE NEED TO GIVE TAX RELIEF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS. 
          WHEN I LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED IN OUR RETREAT ABOUT THESE OTHER COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THAT. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I URGE ALL OF US TO START THINKING WITH HOLISTIC SOLUTIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS GREAT. 
          THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE EXISTING BUSINESSES. 
          BUT LET'S THINK LONG-TERM STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. 
          AND WE ARE, WE JUST GAVE $75 MILLION TO BUILD A CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE INVESTED OUR MONEY. 
          WE SAID, OKAY, RESIDENTS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR TAX A BILLION DOLLARS, WE'RE GONNA INVEST IN THIS CONVENTION BUSINESS, AND NOW WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT HOTEL AND GET THAT UP AND RUNNING. 
          THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE PUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE ZONING OVER THE PAST 20, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE RIGHT THING, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENED, YOU KNOW? SO NOW YOU HAVE THIS MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THAT'S KIND OF A BIG WHITE ELEPHANT. 
          AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL IS THE PANACEA THAT EVERYBODY SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE. 
          BECAUSE IF WE BUILD IT AND THEN THEY DON'T COME, BECAUSE THE CONVENTION BUSINESS IS NOT SUCH A BIG BUSINESS ANYMORE WITH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A REMOTE BUSINESS, THEN, THEN WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO REEVALUATE. 
          BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO MO MOVE. 
          WE'RE NOT THE COOL, TRENDY PLACE. 
          WE BECAME THE CONVENTION. 
          WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CONVENTION BUSINESS, WHICH IS A GREAT BUSINESS BY THE WAY. 
          IT'S GONNA BRING IN MORE REVENUE ONCE YOU BUILD THAT HOTEL AND IT'S BOOKED 24 SOMETHING. 
          YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE, DON'T YOU? WHEN WE HAVE A CONVENTION AND WE DON'T, I WAS WALKING, UM, TOWARD WASHINGTON AVENUE THE OTHER NIGHT. 
          I, UM, AND THE BEAUTY OF BEAUTY CON OR WHATEVER WAS COSMO PRO. 
          COSMO, COSMO, WAS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? COSMIC PROF BEAUTY CON. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF CLOSE. 
          ANYWAY, I SAW THE RUSH OF PEOPLE AND ALL OF THE BUSINESSES WERE FULL. 
          AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE BUILT FOR NOW, WE MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT THAT'S THE INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE. 
          AND NOW WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BUSINESSES ON LINCOLN ROAD. 
          WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE HOLDING CONVENTIONS HERE AND HAVE THOSE RESTAURANTS VACANT. 
          IT IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE PEOPLE, IT'S JUST, IT, IT, IT SENDS SUCH A BAD MESSAGE FOR OUR CITY. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO, AT ANY COST, MAKE 
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SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S NOT A PLACE THAT YOU WANNA GO TO, I GU GUARANTEE YOU THE CONVENTION GOERS ARE GOING TO ALL THOSE RESTAURANTS. 
          AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE ENJOYING IT. 
          YOU KNOW? SO I, YEAH, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S A TOOL IN THE TOOLKIT, YOU KNOW, NOT THE, NOT THE SILVER BULLET, BUT YES. 
          COMMISSIONER BOT, UH, VOICE MAYOR BOT, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM LINCOLN ROAD THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE EXACT SAME ISSUES? DO THEY HAVE SIDEWALK CAFE? DO THEY HAVE SIDEWALK CAFES? SOME OF 'EM DO. 
          WELL THEN, I MEAN, IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CONSENSUS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR DID NOT WANNA DO THIS . 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN ISOLATION. 
          YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T EXIST IN ISOLATION. 
          WE NEED PEOPLE THAT, WHEN WE ARE HAVING THE CONVENTION. 
          SO YES, I WOULD DO THE ENTIRE AREA IF PO HE, BUT THAT'S TOO BIG. 
          DO YOU WANNA DO LIKE A NO, I'M JUST, I LOOK, I, I UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF PROVIDING A BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEM THROUGH THE HARD PARTS. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THESE SAME EXACT, UM, DOWNTURNS OR, OR SITUATIONS. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE PICKING ONE SET AND NOT INCLUDING THE OTHERS. 
          AND THEN WHERE, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WELL, WHERE DO YOU STOP? AND I, SO I, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 
          I, I'M WILLING TO TRY FOR A YEAR MAYBE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT THE REVENUE IMPACT IS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO, UM, A DIFFICULT FINANCIAL SITUATION WITH A CHANGE IN TAXATION FROM THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY NOT OUR, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I, I'M WILLING TO TRY IT, BUT I, I HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS. 
          CAN I NOT, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T APPRECIATE AND LA THE INTENT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE AND HOW DO YOU SAY YES TO SOMEBODY ON THIS CORNER, BUT NOT ON THAT CORNER, YOU KNOW, 50 FEET AWAY. 
          SO THIS CAME FROM THE OWNER OF ELLA, WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS, RIGHT? HE SAID, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT THIS YEAR IF YOU DON'T HELP, REALLY? BUT SO AND SO ELLA IS A LEGACY. 
          WAIT, BUT WAIT, JUST LISTEN. 
          HE SAID, HE SAID, I, YOU KNOW, HE HAS BUILT ABOVE HIS PLACE SOME AIRBNBS 'CAUSE HE OWNS THE BUILDING. 
          AND HE SAID, THAT'S KIND OF GETTING ME THROUGH, BUT REALLY IT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING WENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME. 
          DO YOU UNDERSTAND? IT'S JUST THE WHOLE AREA BECAME VACANT AND EVERY HOTEL CLOSED. 
          IT'S A WEIRD PHENOMENON, RIGHT? SO THIS IS VERY TEMPORAL, BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONER BOT, FOR THOSE RESTAURANTS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE, WE APPROVED A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT, UM, FUNDING PROGRAM. 
          IT IS NOT FUNDED WITH ENOUGH MONEY. 
          IT SHOULD BE SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN IT, BUT WE HAVE IT SO PEOPLE CAN APPLY FOR IT AND MAYBE IT WILL COVER, YOU KNOW, UM, COVER RENT, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE MONTH OR SUBSIDIZE THE RENT. 
          THEY'RE SMALL GRANTS, BUT WE'RE DOING WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES WHILE WE GET THROUGH THIS HARD TIME. 
          SO ONE YEAR, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION. 
          ONE YEAR ABATEMENT FOR NEW RESTAURANTS. 
          YEAH. 
          IF I COULD SUMMARIZE. 
          SO I THINK 100%, I THINK YOU HAD SAID 100% FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS FOR NEW RESTAURANTS AND A 50% REDUCTION IN THE OCTOBER, 2025 THROUGH MARCH, 2026 PERIOD, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE BILLED AT AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE MOTION. 
          SO IT WOULD BE TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, IF THAT'S CORRECT. 
          RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT A ONE YEAR LINCOLN ROAD OUTDOOR DINING CONCESSION ABATEMENT PROGRAM, UH, AT 100% FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF A NEW RESTAURANT AND 50%, UH, REDUCTION FOR THE OCTOBER, 2025 TO MARCH, 2026 TIME PERIOD BILLING PERIOD. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR MOTION. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. 
          WE WOULD NEED A SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WASN'T A VERY ENTHUSIASTIC SECOND. 
          I, I JUST WAS, IT PAINS ME THAT, AND THIS ISN'T ANY OF US UP HERE. 
          IT IS JUST THE CURRENT STATE OF, OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AN ECONOMIC, A PROLONGED SINCE COVID AN ECONOMIC BOOM CYCLE, RIGHT? AND WE SEE OTHER AREAS FLOURISHING AND MONTH AFTER MONTH, YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE HAVE TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY, WOW, WE HAVE A X PERCENT VACANCY RATE. 
          AND IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, GIVE TAX BREAKS AND WE DON'T GIVE GRANTS, THESE BUSINESSES ARE, ARE GONNA GO OUT. 
          IT'S, I JUST BEGRUDGE THE STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT WE'RE IN. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPE AND PRAY THAT THERE, THERE ARE ANSWERS COMING. 
          I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO THINK HOLISTICALLY ABOUT HOW TO DO MORE INSTEAD OF JUST BEING IN THAT WAIT AND SEE APPROACH. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, MORE STRUCTURAL 
          [01:25:01]
CHANGES. 
          WAIT A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          NO, . 
          WHEN I WENT, AND I SAID THIS AT OUR RETREAT, AND, BUT I WANNA SAY IT AGAIN. 
          WHEN I WENT TO THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND I WALKED IN WITH THE PERSON WHO OWNS ALL OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT, HE SAID THE ONLY REASON THAT IT IS SUCCESSFUL THE WAY THAT IT IS, IS BECAUSE HE IS ABLE TO DISCOUNT RESTAURANT RENTS AT 80%. 
          AND ONCE HE GIVES RESTAURANTS RENTS THAT ARE VIABLE, THAT CAN SUSTAIN THOSE RESTAURANTS, BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT PAY WHAT WE'RE PAYING HERE. 
          DO YOU UNDER UNDERSTAND? SO THE ONLY REASON THAT PEOPLE GO TO THE DESIGN DISTRICT WAS BECAUSE HE HAD THESE GREAT RESTAURANTS. 
          AND ONCE PEOPLE STARTED TO FREQUENT THE RESTAURANTS IN THE DESIGN DISTRICTS, THEN THE RETAIL FOLLOWED, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY BECAUSE ALL OF THE LINCOLN ROAD IS, IS FRAGMENTED PROPERTY OWNERS, FOR EXAMPLE, BRICKELL CITY CENTER IS THE SAME. 
          THEY HEAVILY DISCOUNT, UM, RENTS FOR RESTAURANTS. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? BECAUSE THEY OWN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S THE MODEL. 
          AND I DID NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL I WALKED THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND I TALKED TO THE TROOPER AND WHY ARE THESE OTHER DISCOUNTS RESTAURANT RATES? YES. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE WHEN THEY DISCOUNT REST, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DISCOUNT RESTAURANT RATES AS THAN RETAIL PLANS, AS TRADE TRADING COMPANY, AND I, UH, READ EVERY SINGLE QUARTER OF THEIR QUARTERLY EARNINGS RELEASE AND THEY ACTUALLY SPECIFY THEIR LEASE RATES, THEIR OCCUPANCY, THEIR VACANCY, AND THEY HAVE MANAGEMENT ACTUALLY GOING TO IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. 
          I'VE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT FOR RETAIL AND A PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT FOR RESTAURANTS, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY FOR SURE. 
          AND EVERYBODY, AND PEOPLE KNOW THIS WITHIN THE BUSINESS, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT BY THE WAY, WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON LINCOLN ROAD, WHICH IS CRAZY. 
          WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CELL PHONE DATA, WE HAD 8 MILLION PEOPLE ON LINCOLN ROAD, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN RIGGLE CITY CENTER HAS. 
          SO IT'S NOT, IT'S QUESTION OF DENSITY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, ? I I WOULD, I I WOULD BET EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE, IF YOU GO TO LINCOLN ROAD RIGHT NOW, VERSUS IF YOU WALK DOWN SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE OR BRICKLE AVENUE, THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, UH, BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, WE DON'T NEED ANECDOTAL, UH, BACK AND FORTH. 
          UM, YES, LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH, UH, SOME MUCH NEEDED HELP. 
          AND I HOPE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS ARE ON THE WAY. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION PASS. 
          THREE. 
          NOTHING THANK YOU. 
          AND COMMISSION. 
          [NB 7. DISCUSS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS FOR LICENSED PROPERTY MANAGERS]
DID YOU WANT TO MOVE ON TO MB SEVEN LICENSING PROPERTY MANAGERS, CALL IT IN MB MB SEVEN, DISCUSS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS FOR LICENSE PROPERTY MANAGERS MB SEVEN. 
          SO I WAS AT THE MIAMI BEACH BAR ASSOCIATION FUNCTION, AND I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO OUR SPECIAL MASTER, AND I ASKED HER IF THERE WAS ANY TOOL THAT WE COULD GIVE YOU, UM, TO HELP WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT WOULD IT BE? AND SHE SAID, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, UM, WITH RESIDENTS AND PROPERTIES IN GENERAL ARE PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO COME BEFORE ME AND TELL ME THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW. 
          THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE RULE WAS. 
          THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW THEY HAD TO COMPLY, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO DO IT. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS A COURSE AND A BTR. 
          WELL, THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT IS A BTR, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE BTR, THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A TWO HOUR COURSE. 
          CORRECT. 
          THIS WAY, WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND THEY COME IN FRONT OF THE SPECIAL MASTER, THAT PROPERTY MANAGER CAN NO LONGER SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          AND THEN THE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION THAT IS EMPLOYING, THAT PROPERTY MANAGER CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT  ARE, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT THE SPECIAL MASTER SAID. 
          AND MOST OF THE TIME THE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS ARE THERE. 
          I NEVER, I DON'T REALLY ATTEND THE SPECIAL MASTER, UM, HEARING. 
          SO I DON'T, MOST OF THE TIME IS IT JUST THE PROPERTY MANAGER OR IS IT THE CONDO ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER PRESIDENT? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I WOULD IMAGINE. 
          I, I WOULD IMAGINE I, I DON'T TYPICALLY ATTEND EITHER, BUT I'VE LEARNED, UM, THROUGH, UH, UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES THIS YEAR THAT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          SO THERE'S NO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, RHYME OR REASON, BUT I, I LOVE THIS IDEA. 
          I THINK I, IT'S KIND OF THE WILD WEST OUT THERE. 
          AND ANYBODY CAN PRESENT THEMSELVES AS A PROPERTY MANAGER, NOT KNOW ANYTHING, NOT BE RESPONSIBLE, NOT BE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          SO I'M, I'M READY TO MOVE THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL SECOND IT THEN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS EASY. 
          SO IF, AGAIN, SO THAT IT WOULD BE TO RETURN A COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT A LICENSED PROPERTY MANAGER'S REGISTRATION PROGRAM? NO. 
          UH, 
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MOTION MADE BY ME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SECOND. 
          OH, SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW ABOUT JASON? UH, NB 23? UH, I THINK THIS WILL BE A QUICK ITEM LEASE FOR BARBERSHOP. 
          UH, YES. 
          MB 
          [NB 23. DISCUSS A PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MIAMI BEACH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A PUBLIC BODY CORPORATE AND POLITIC (RDA), (LANDLORD) AND VIDA BROS, LLC, D/B/A SHAVING DISTRICT (TENANT), FOR APPROXIMATELY 1,590 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE, LOCATED AT 100 16 ST. SUITES NOS 1-2, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA (PREMISES), FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS AND ONE OPTION OF FOUR (4) YEARS AND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY-FOUR (364) DAYS, AT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR’S DISCRETION.]
23, MB 23 DISCUSS A PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MIAMIA BEACH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A BODY, A PUBLIC BODY, CORPORATE, AND POLITIC. 
          RDA LANDLORD AND VITA BROTHERS, L-L-C-D-B-A SHAVING DISTRICT TENANT FOR APPROXIMATELY 1,590 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE. 
          LOCATED AT 116TH STREET SUITES. 
          NUMBERS ONE TO TWO, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA PREMISES FOR A TERM OF FIVE YEARS WITH, WITH ONE OPTION OF FOUR YEARS AND 364 DAYS AT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION. 
          MB 23. 
          GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ. 
          IT'S NICE TO BE BACK. 
          GREAT TO SEE ALL OF YOU. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A, UH, BARBERSHOP, UPSCALE BARBERSHOP. 
          I'VE BEEN VETTING THEM FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER LOCATIONS HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY THE MARKET RENT AND THE OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THEIR FULL BUILD OUT. 
          THE ONLY, UM, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO DO IS TO REMISE THE SPACE. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY LARGE SPACE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE SUBDIVIDING IT, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED FOR THE BARBERSHOP. 
          UH, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THE COST OF SUBDIVIDING THIS SPACE, AND WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE COST IS GONNA BE GREATER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING, WHAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE TENANT IS TO GIVE THEM A TI. 
          SO WITH THEIR BUILD OUT, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBDIVIDING THE SPACE, CURING IT ON BOTH SIDES. 
          UH, IT'S GONNA COME OUT A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO DO IT UNDER THEIR CONTRACTOR AND THEIR PERMIT. 
          UH, AND THE SPACE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GAIN 200 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO INSTEAD OF THE 1500 SQUARE FEET THAT WE HAD FIRST ESTIMATED, THEY'RE GONNA END UP WITH 1750 SQUARE FEET. 
          IN ADDITION TO THIS, WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSED WITH THEM THE OPPORTUNITY OF DOING SOME PUBLIC BENEFITS. 
          UH, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING, IT'S NOT IN THIS MEMO, IT WILL BE IN A COMMISSION MEMO IF APPROVED. 
          THANK YOU FOR SURE. 
          UH, BUT THEY WILL BE PROVIDING 25% DISCOUNT TO SENIOR CITIZENS. 
          UM, AND ALSO, UH, WE'RE DISCUSSING ABOUT ALSO SOME PROGRAMS FOR, UH, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AS YOU. 
          AND THERE'S, TALK TO ME ABOUT THE ANCHOR SHOPS ARE, ARE WE HAVING MY EYES TELL ME, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTY THERE, NOT JUST NOW, BUT FOR SOME TIME, UH, BOTH BY THE AMOUNT OF VACANCY THAT WE HAVE THERE AND THE TYPES OF BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO CALL THAT ANY, BUT, YOU KNOW, FRONTING COLLINS AVENUE AND WHAT I THINK IS A HUGE SPACE. 
          IT WAS LIKE THE LIQUOR LOUNGE THAT WE HAD THERE, RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT WAS CORNER OF COLLINS AVENUE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LOWE'S. 
          AND THEN THE EASTERN PORTION, IF YOU GO EAST FROM, I'M SORRY, WEST FROM THAT, THAT ENTIRE SIDE IS VACANT. 
          RIGHT? UH, GIVE ME YOUR ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          ARE WE HAVING DIFFICULTIES? UM, THIS IS, THIS ISN'T FINGER POINTING OR BLAMING. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          THIS IS SO WE CAN KIND OF, I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION. 
          IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A, A RUNDOWN OF THE HISTORY. 
          UH, YES. 
          THIS PROPERTY PROBABLY WENT THROUGH, THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF TURMOIL LIKE MANY OTHER PROPERTIES DID IN THROUGHOUT THE BEACH AREA WITH COVID. 
          HOWEVER, ON COLLINS AVENUE, WE DO HAVE TWO NEW RESTAURANTS THAT ARE BUILDING OUT. 
          THESE WERE, UH, DEALS THAT WERE GENERATED, UH, BACK IN 2023. 
          THEY'RE COMPLETING THEIR, THEIR FULL BUILD OUTS RIGHT NOW. 
          THE CITY DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO IT AT ALL. 
          UH, THEY'RE GOING, ONE IS GONNA BE CAPE 3 0 5, WHICH IS UPSCALE FINE DINING, AMERICAN CUISINE. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE IS A CAFE, UH, LIME TREE CAFE, WHICH IS MORE EUROPEAN STYLE. 
          UH, LIQUOR LOUNGE IS, IS OUR, IS OUR CORNER CAP THERE. 
          IT'S A PRIME LOCATION. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS A DEAL THAT WAS DONE BEFORE I WAS BORN 30 YEARS AGO, . 
          AND IT HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS ALL OFF TENANT SIDE, NOTHING ON THE LANDLORD SIDE. 
          SO IT WAS NOT A VERY WELL STRUCTURED DEAL. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UM, AFTER THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LAST TERM, NOW THEY HAVE ONE MORE FIVE YEAR OPTION. 
          HOWEVER, THAT TENANT HAS BEEN IN DEFAULT NUMEROUS TIMES, UH, MONETARY DEFAULTS, UH, WHICH WE ARE CONTINUING TO REVIEW AND MONITOR. 
          AND WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT WHEN THEIR TERM IS UP IN THE NEXT, UH, TWO YEARS I BELIEVE. 
          SO THAT MAY, MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          IT'S NOT A TENANT THAT WE WANT, UH, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE GOVERNED BY THE LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT 
          [01:35:01]
TO, TO MONITOR THIS. 
          UM, THIS PARTICULAR TENANT ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS 16TH AVENUE, IT'S THE AREA THAT'S A, BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, UH, JUST BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC HAS IS NOT AS GREAT THERE. 
          HOWEVER, THE MOMENTUM DID BUILD, AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF DEALS THAT WENT TO COMMISSION AND WERE APPROVED, HOWEVER, IN REAL ESTATE TIME KILLS ALL DEALS. 
          AND THE TIME THAT IT TOOK US TO PUT THE DEALS TOGETHER, GET THEM THROUGH FERC AND COMMISSION, THESE SMALL TENANTS, WALKED OUT, WALKED AWAY, AND WENT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER. 
          UH, WE CONTINUED TO MARKET THESE SPACES, BUT AT THAT TIME WE WERE FACED WITH SOUTH SHORE AND WE LEFT THESE SPACES PURPOSEFULLY VACANT IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEEDED TO RELOCATE ANY OF THE SOUTH SHORE TENANTS TO THIS BUILDING. 
          OH, UH, I, MIAMI-DADE, UH, COUNTY AND ALSO SENIOR SENIORS IN ACTION. 
          UH, WHEN I RETURNED TO THE CITY, ALL THAT WAS RESOLVED AND WE STARTED MARKETING AGAIN. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, THE SHAVING DISTRICT COMING HERE, HOPEFULLY. 
          I'M ALSO SPEAKING WITH A JUICE CONCEPT FOR ONE OF THE SMALL SPACES. 
          UH, AND MOST RECENTLY, ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE CITY, UH, INTRODUCED ME TO THE ITALIAN EMBASSY THAT IS LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS AND RELOCATING FROM BRICKELL HERE TO MIAMI BEACH. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING THEM. 
          HOWEVER, THEIR ECONOMIC PROMISE IS, IS NOT AT MARKET RENTS. 
          SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED COMMISSION TO APPROVE, UH, A BIG DISCOUNT. 
          BUT IT IS A GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          LET'S, LET'S TALK MORE OFFLINE, NOT JUST ABOUT THAT, THAT'S INTRIGUING ALL OF US, I THINK. 
          BUT JUST THE ENTIRE STATE, WHAT YOU NEED FROM US ENTIRE STATE OF AFFAIRS, , I DON'T WANNA LOAD YOUR PLATE WITH, UH, WITH MORE, NOT THE ENTIRE STATE, THE ENTIRE STATE OF AFFAIRS THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND HOW WE COULD, UH, PLAY A BETTER HAND IN, I MEAN, THAT'S SUCH A INTEGRAL ARTERY FOR OUR CITY. 
          UM, AND I'M WILLING TO REALLY PUT OUR BEST FACE FORWARD THERE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I WELCOME. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO A TOUR, UH, DO AN ONSITE VISIT. 
          I WELCOME THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          GREAT. 
          OZZY, ARE YOU REACHING OUT, ACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES TOO, OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR THE, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A BLOW DRY BAR ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY RAISED THEIR RENT AND THEY WENT OUTTA BUSINESS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO HAD THE BTR, IT WAS INSIDE OF A HOTEL, BUT YOU SHOULD FIND OUT WHO OWNED IT AND CALL THEM AND OFFER THEM A REASONABLE RENT BECAUSE THAT WAS FULL ALL THE TIME. 
          AND PEOPLE STAYING AT ALL THE HOTELS WOULD GO THERE. 
          AND THERE'S BEEN A REAL VACUUM FOR, YOU KNOW, WOMEN WHO COME TO MIAMI BEACH AND THEY'RE GOING OUT OR THEY NEED TO GET THEIR HAIR DONE. 
           PLUS IT WOULD BE GREAT SYMMETRY. 
          I'M JUST SAYING THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT AMENITY AND YOU COULD GO THERE AT ANY TIME AND IT WAS AFFORDABLE. 
          AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THAT SPACE AND YOU HAVE THE BARBERSHOP THERE AND YOU RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LOWE'S, UM, I WOULD REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND I DON'T IF THE FRANCHISE SELF SERVING FOR YOU. 
          YEAH,  BE THE NUMBER ONE CUSTOMER. 
          HE'S GONNA BE AT THE BARBER SHOP. 
          . 
          SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, RETURN ACTUALLY TO THE RDA WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE NEW LEASE AGREEMENT. 
          I'LL MOVE IT. 
          YES. 
          AND I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THAT BUILDING LEASED OUT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY DEPRESSING TO SEE IT GO DARK LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S, THANK YOU. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS, I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THE, THE COLOR PHOTOS THAT WERE ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT, BUT THE BARBERSHOP LOOKS AMAZING. 
          NOT NOT OUR OLD SCHOOL BARBER SHOP AT ALL. 
          YOU'LL CHANGE THAT WHOLE CORNER IF YOU PUT IN LIKE ANOTHER AMENITY TOO. 
          AND WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE, AND GIVE THEM RENTS THAT ARE REASONABLE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OR THE, A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GON ROSA GONZALEZ. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AYE. 
          WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UH, NB EIGHT DISCUSS THE CREATION OF THE STANDALONE MARKETING BUDGET, UH, SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? MR. CHAIR? YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          COULD WE, COULD WE ALSO TALK ABOUT 14? IT'S YOUR ITEM AND IT'S REFERENCING KIND OF THE SAME BUILDING. 
          UH, LET ME, UH, YES, CUE THAT UP. 
          UH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          IS A, A SYNERGISTIC, UH, ITEM TO THAT HOLD, SORRY. 
          MB FOUR, 
          [NB 14. EXPLORE CREATION OF AN EMPTY SPACE RE-UTILIZATION INITIATIVE TO SET UP AS PHOTO SHOOT STUDIOS FOR ASPIRING ARTISTS/PHOTOGRAPHERS (ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY).]
MB 14 EXPL, UH, EXPLORE CREATION OF EMPTY SPACE REUTILIZATION INITIATIVE TO SET UP AS, UH, PHOTO SHOOT STUDIOS FOR ASPIRING ARTISTS PHOTOGRAPHERS ON STUDIO AND PROPERTY MB 14. 
          SO WITH, WITH THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ON THE BARBERSHOP, WE DO HAVE ONE SMALL BUILT OUT SPACE THAT WE CAN START USING IMMEDIATELY IF, UH, IF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS APPROVE, UM, TO USE AS PHOTO STUDIOS OR, UM, ARTIST STUDIOS WHILE WE VET THE NEXT PERMANENT TENANT AND THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A LEASE EXECUTED. 
          YEAH, WOULD LOVE THAT. 
          AND MY IDEA HERE MONTHS AGO, I WENT OVER TO, UH, TO AN EVENT IN WYNWOOD, UM, AND 
          [01:40:01]
IT WAS JUST A, A VACANT RETAIL SPACE AND THEY, UH, JUST VERY QUICKLY TURNED IT AROUND AND THEY HAD, UM, ONE OF THOSE KIND OF INFLUENCER, UH, PHOTO SHOOT SPACES. 
          THEY WERE HAVING AN EVENT THERE. 
          THEY HAD 40 YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WERE KIND OF COMING AND GOING. 
          IT WAS JUST VERY ARTSY. 
          THE THINGS THAT WE LAMENT THAT WE'VE KIND OF LOST AS A CITY, UH, IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HOW JUST THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE CITY WORKS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE ARTISTS MOVE IN AND THEN THEY MAKE IT COOL AND THEN THEY GET PRICED OUT BECAUSE, BECAUSE THIS COOL, THE RENTS GO UP AND THEN ARTISTS HAVE TO MOVE ELSEWHERE. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TURNED AROUND QUICKLY FOR VACANT SPACE. 
          IT ACTIVATES IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT LOOK SO BLIGHTED AS COMMISSIONER ING GONZALEZ POINTED, RIGHTFULLY POINTED OUT THE ANCHOR SHOPS DO. 
          AND IT JUST KIND OF LIKE CREATES A COOL FACTOR FOR THAT AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW, HOW QUICK AND HOW COSTLY WOULD IT TURN AROUND BE? I'M NOT THINKING ANYTHING OVERLY COMPLEX, ORNATE, BUT IF, UH, PEOPLE WANTED TO COME IN AND, AND DO SOME SORT OF PHOTO SHOOT OR SOME SORT OF ARTISTIC GALLERY, WE ALMOST HAVE LIKE A BLANK CANVAS, NO PUN INTENDED. 
          UH, THE SPACES ARE, ARE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY ARE FULLY BUILT OUT. 
          SO THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CONVENE WITH LEGAL AND RISK MANAGEMENT JUST BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME IN WILL NOT HAVE OUR REQUIRED CERTIFICATES OF INSURANCE. 
          AND WE WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT RISK WOULD SAY ABOUT, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, UH, A RELEASE, UM, A HOLD HARM LIST THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SIGNED. 
          AND THEN ALSO ON THE LEGAL SIDE IS WHAT, WHAT FORMAT OF AGREEMENTS WE WOULD DRAFT FOR. 
          AND, AND WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT, BECAUSE I'M KIND OF OPEN-ENDED ON THIS. 
          WOULD THIS BE ONE TENANT OR WOULD WE SIT THERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE THIS BLANK SPACE KIND OF COME AND BOOK YOUR THREE DAYS OR A WEEK ON A CALENDAR, HAVE YOUR POPUP ACTIVATION, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          OR ARE WE LOOKING LIKE TO HAVE ONE TENANT IN THERE FOR THREE MONTHS? I KIND OF LIKE THAT. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE JUST BECAUSE OF UNDERSTANDING ARTISTS AND THEY, THEIR PRIVACY THAT IS NEEDED. 
          UM, PROBABLY ONE TENANT FOR THE SMALL SPACE. 
          UM, AND IF WE CAN DO A DIVIDER IN THE SECOND SPACE, UM, WE CAN DO TWO MORE TENANTS THERE. 
          AND I GUESS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT, NOT ONE TENANT, BUT KIND OF THE TIMEFRAME, RIGHT? IS IT JUST ONE TENANT FOR THREE MONTHS OR WOULD WE SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE A TWO WEEK KIND OF POP UP SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GALLERIES, YOUR PHOTO SHOOTS, AND THAT WAY WE KIND OF GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED. 
          I'M, I'M OPEN-ENDED AND, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO FEEDBACK. 
          I THINK WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE ON THE, ON THE NEEDS OF THAT PARTICULAR ARTIST. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK IF THIS MOVES OUTTA COMMITTEE TO COMMISSION, UH, PART OF THAT ITEM THAT, UH, FACILITIES WOULD PUT IN THERE WOULD, WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF, UH, FLEXIBILITY. 
          SO, SO IF I, WELL, SORRY, BEFORE I, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO ASK YOUNG PEOPLE, WHAT ARE YOU LIKE ANCIENT NOW ? UM, NOW I LOVE THIS IDEA. 
          I, UH, WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED I TALKED TO, UM, A BUNCH OF STAFF A, A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR POPUP MUSIC EVENTS IN VACANT SPACES AND IT SORT OF DIED ON THE VINE. 
          BUT, UM, SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS. 
          I'M, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL BE MORE INTERESTED IN LEASING SPACE THAT THEY SEE ACTIVATED THAN THEY SEE WRAPPED BECAUSE THAT JUST LOOKS SAD AND, AND HEART, YOU KNOW, TRAGIC. 
          SO, UM, THE MORE OF THESE KIND OF, WHETHER IT'S A THREE OR SIX MONTH, UM, UM, RESIDENCY FOR SOMEBODY OR POP-UP SPACE THAT YOU COULD LEASE BY THE WEEK, I WOULD EVEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO AS AN AS AMENDMENT, BUT UM, OFFER IT UP TO NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AT A TIME WHILE THEY LOOK FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, MORE PERMANENT, UM, PLACES. 
          BUT YES, GET PEOPLE INTO THE SPACES EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME. 
          IT'LL BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS. 
          WOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS RATHER, MY ONLY WORRY, I WILL ENDORSE THIS AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH GETTING THESE PLACES LONG-TERM LEASED. 
          OH, OF COURSE. 
          WITH ACTIVATION. 
          SO IF THEY GO IN AND YOU GET AN OFFER TO LEASE IT, WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL THEN AT THE END OF ATION, WE WILL HAVE TERMINATION RIGHTS ON THAT AND WE WILL RUN A PARALLEL PATH. 
          SO WHILE WE ARE VETTING THE NEW TENANT AND GETTING THEIR LEASE APPROVED AND NEGOTIATED AND SIGNED AND THEY'RE IN FOR PERMIT, WE CAN BE GIVING THIS TENANT THEIR YEAH, THEIR, THEIR TERMINATION. 
          AND HOW I'M ENVISIONING YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT LIKE ROLLS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          RIGHT? I DON'T WANT ANYBODY COMING IN THERE SETTING UP WHAT THEY THINK IS GONNA BE THEIR PERMANENT HOME. 
          I DON'T WANT ONE PERSON IN THERE OCCUPYING IT FOR THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LEASED IT OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO GIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IN MY PRIOR LIFE OF SHOPPING CENTERS AND REGIONAL MALLS, IT WAS VERY COMMON TO HAVE POP-UP TENANTS ON TEMPORARY BASIS. 
          SOME NOT-FOR-PROFITS, SOME EVEN ART STUDIOS AND SOME, YOU KNOW, REGULAR RETAIL TENANTS. 
          SO THEY ARE, THE TEMPORARY AGREEMENTS THAT WE DRAFT WILL BE VERY SPECIFIC AND UH, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY ISSUES. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE AND THIS ISN'T MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, SO I'M CAUTIOUS TO OVERSTEP OUT OF MY 
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ZONE OF KNOWLEDGE. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T TALK MUCH IF I JUST STUCK WITH THINGS I KNOW. 
          WELL  YEAH. 
          BUT, UM, A MONTHLY BASIS MAYBE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GET DIFFERENT PEOPLE ACTIVATED AND INVOLVED. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION THEN, UH, 'CAUSE THE CONVERSATION WENT IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. 
          THERE IS, IS THE INTEREST THAT IT BE THIS SHORT TERM UTILIZATION PROGRAM BE FOR ART AND PHOTOGRAPHY RELATED OR JUST THAT BE STRAIGHT UP ALLOW A SHORT TERM VACANT SPACE UTILIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH I'LL PUT OUT WHICH ART PHOTOGRAPHY AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO ADD DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THAT. 
          I THINK IF WE'RE CAPPING IT AT A MONTH RIGHT. 
          AND CORRECT, LIKE A COMMERCIAL TENANT WOULD BE COME IN AND DO A POPUP FOR WATCHES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IF YOU WANTED TO BE OPEN-ENDED OR IF IT'D BE SPECIFIC. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THE ITEM SPEAKS TO BEING SPECIFIC TO LIKE ART AND PHOTOGRAPHY, BUT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ART OUTSIDE. 
          YOU PUT ART CULTURE NON-PROFIT. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          ART CULTURE, NONPROFIT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT CAN WORK NONPROFIT. 
          SO IT WOULD BE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT A CITY OWNED PROPERTY VACANT SPACE, SHORT TERM UTILIZATION PROGRAM FOR ART, PHOTOGRAPHY, CULTURE, NONPROFIT RELATED, UH, PROGRAMMING. 
          AND WHO WOULD BE MAKING THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE IT COMMISSIONER BOT SECOND. 
          CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT THIS ITEM? OF COURSE. 
          LIKE, I LOVE THE MOONLIGHT LAB AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          I ENDORSE IT 150%. 
          BUT BY PUTTING THAT THERE, WE KIND OF, WE HAVE THIS TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE RETAIL SPACE THAT WE COULD BE ACTUALLY DISCOUNTING FOR SOME FABULOUS RESTAURANT TO COME IN AND ACTIVATE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. 
          I MEAN, I LIKE THIS ACTIVATION WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE LEASE OUT ON OUR GROUND FLOOR OF RETAIL. 
          THAT SHOULD BE LIKE, SACRED. 
          THAT'S HOW WE CAN DISCOUNT THE 80% RESTAURANTS AND BRING IN PLACES THAT NORMALLY COULDN'T THRIVE. 
          BUT THAT WILL ACTIVATE AN AREA. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPACE IS, WHERE THE MOONLIGHT IS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THEM AN EQUALLY NICE SPACE, BUT MAYBE NOT IN A MAJOR RETAIL CORRIDOR WHERE WE COULD HAVE REALLY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU WALK OUT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER INSTEAD OF SEEING SOME LIKE VIBRANT ACTIVITY, IT'S JUST CLOSED OFF. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, AND, AND I, I BY THE WAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MOONLIGHT KNOWS THAT I AM 100% BEHIND EVERY SINGLE THING THAT THEY DO. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE THEM. 
          'CAUSE THEY COULD BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, COULDN'T THEY? COULDN'T THEY BE ON? WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SPACE IN THAT BUILDING. 
          IT'S JUST THAT FIRST LEVEL, FIRST FLOOR. 
          SO ON THAT, IN THAT BUILDING. 
          IN THAT BUILDING. 
          BUT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE ANCHOR, DO YOU HAVE SPACE THERE? IS THERE A PLACE IN OLD CITY HALL? IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE THAT WE COULD GIVE THEM A PERMANENT HOME THAT WOULDN'T? HOW ABOUT THE, I KNOW WE SAID, UH, THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER, THEY SHOULD BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT? GIVE THEM A PERMANENT HOME THERE AND THEN OPEN THAT UP TO REVENUE. 
          JASON, WE COULD BE TALKING DOLLARS HERE THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING COMMISSIONER PAY ONE. 
          CAN YOU SAY, I'VE HAD THE SAME THOUGHT, UH, WALKING PAST DOWN THAT ALLEY. 
          I THINK WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO COMPREHENSIVELY THINK ABOUT THIS CALLED CITY HALL 17TH STREET AREA. 
          ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL COMES ONLINE. 
          THERE'S, IT'S BIZARRE URBAN PLANNING. 
          I'M SORRY TO GET OFF ON A RANT HERE, BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVENTION CENTER WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HOTEL WITH HUNDREDS OF ROOMS AND THERE'S NO NATURAL FLOW ONTO LINCOLN ROAD. 
          DRIVES ME INSANE. 
          BUT POINT BEING , WE DEAL WITH THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE IN NOW, HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PER DAY ARE GOING TO WALK PAST THAT MOONLIGHT OR LAB. 
          AND IT IS INACTIVATED. 
          IT'S DARK, IT'S DEAD. 
          RIGHT, IT'S JUST DEAD. 
          THAT WILL BE PRIME NATURAL, LIKE FLOW FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER AREA AND HOTEL OVER TO LINCOLN ROAD. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIND A GREAT SPOT FOR MOONLIGHT OR LAB. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THAT AREA MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT ACTIVATION, IF I MAY. 
          WELL, YES. 
          UM, I THINK A SHORT TERM SOLUTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO TRY TO REIMAGINE WHAT THIS TOWN CENTER SHOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN THE HOTEL COMES ON BOARD AND THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CUT THROUGH TO LINCOLN ROAD OTHER THAN THROUGH, WHAT IS THAT STORE? FOREVER 21 YES. 
           OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          YES. 
          UM, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THEIR SALES, I'M SURE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING FROM, FROM, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. 
          IN THE MEANWHILE, COULD WE NOT REQUEST, REQUIRE THAT THE MOONLIGHT FAB LAB TAKES OFF THE DARK IMPOSING, UM, WINDOW COVERS 
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AND LETS PEOPLE SEE, AND WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, DIVERSIFYING OUR ECONOMY AND BEING MORE THAN 8 MILLION RESTAURANTS. 
          LIKE HOW MANY DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS CAN YOU GO OUT TO EAT AT NOW? I UNDERSTAND HAVING SOMETHING BUZZING AND LIKE GREAT RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER RIGHT AT THAT SPOT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          IT PROBABLY IS A GOOD IDEA GIVEN THAT IT'S HOTEL AND CONVENTION. 
          GOT IT. 
          BUT ALSO A PARALLEL TRUTH IS SEEING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A RESTAURANT THAT IS ACTIVATED AND BUSY AND SHOWING THE BREADTH OF MIAMI BEACH. 
          LIKE HOW COOL WOULD IT BE TO SEE PEOPLE IN THERE CREATING DOORKNOBS OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY DO IN THERE. 
          UM, AND UM, SO WHILE WE FIGURE ALL THAT LONG-TERM STUFF OUT, CAN WE JUST ASK THEM TO TAKE DOWN THE DARK WINDOW COVERINGS AND LET US THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SEE US MAKING THEM, OR SEE, LET US SEE THEM MAKING STUFF. 
          YES. 
          WE CAN VISIT WITH THEM AND REVIEW THAT WITH THEM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          CAN I, I I WANNA TELL YOU GUYS A, A A STORY ABOUT THAT SPACE. 
          SO THERE WAS A SUCCESSFUL HOTELIER AND HE OWNED A, A HOTEL THAT'S NO LONGER THERE CALLED THE TOWNHOUSE. 
          AND HE HAD LEASED THAT PROPERTY FROM THE CITY, AND HE HAD SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUILDING OUT THIS AMAZING FOOD COURT. 
          THIS GUY AMIR, BEN ZION, AND SOMETHING IN THE ENGINEERING OF HOW HE DID HIS HOOD. 
          AND THE EXHAUST SAID THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY SAID, OH, YOU'RE, WE SMELL LIKE FOOD. 
          SO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX THE HOOD, WE KICKED THEM OUT. 
          WE SAID, , SORRY ABOUT YOUR INVESTMENT. 
          IT WENT DARK, IT WENT TO THE CHAMBER, AND THEN IT ENDED UP AS THAT AS, AS, AS THE MOONLIGHT, WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING. 
          BUT THE REAL VISION THAT WE HAD WAS TO HAVE THIS LIKE TREMENDOUS LIKE FOOD COURT THERE WITH LIKE, LIKE A FOOD LIKE INCUBATOR LAB WITH LIKE ALL OF OUR LOCAL CHEFS WHO WANTED TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW THEIR, WHERE I MEAN, WE COULD DO SOMETHING SO COOL IN THAT SPACE. 
          AND I, I DO AGREE THAT FOR RIGHT NOW, TAKING OFF THE COVERS IS GOOD, BUT I REALLY DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MOONLIGHT BEING ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE ARE THEY THERE EVERY DAY IN THE MOONLIGHT? YEAH. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE ACTIVATED CONSTANTLY EVERY DAY. 
          AND IT WOULD BE A PERMANENT SPACE AND WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND WE WOULD GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, I THINK, GOODWILL. 
          MAYBE WE DO A LITTLE FOOD COURT TYPE SITUATION THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A MASSIVE SPACE. 
          BUT IF IT IS A MASSIVE SPACE, AND SO WOULD THEY A EVEN FIT INTO THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER OR SECOND STORY B UM, IF THEY HAVE PEOPLE JUST WANDERING IN AND OUT WHILE WE HAVE CHILDREN AND, AND DAYCARE, THERE IS THAT A PROBLEM? AND C THAT MEANS THEN THAT ALL THE PROGRAMMING FOR, UM, POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE AND, UM, RESIDENT TRAINING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO. 
          AND THAT, THAT SEEMS PROBLEMATIC. 
          WELL, I, LET'S JUST EXPLORE. 
          WE CAN EXPLORE IT. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MEAN THEY STILL HAVE THEIR LEASE THERE, SO THEY'RE NOT MOVING ANYTIME SOON. 
          RIGHT. 
          OZZY, WHEN DOES THEIR LEASE RUN OUT? THEY JUST RENEWED RIGHT. 
          AND EXTENDED THE LEASE FOR I THINK, I BELIEVE ANOTHER THREE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY HAD AN OPTION, BUT, BUT THE CITY ALWAYS HAS A TERMINATION, RIGHT? NO, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT. 
          ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, THE KEY PRIZES WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL OPENS. 
          CORRECT. 
          COMMISSIONER VA, YOU DID RAISE A GOOD POINT. 
          I'M GONNA CHECK THE FOREVER 21 LOBBY TO SEE IF THEY'RE PREVENTING, YOU KNOW, UH, BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW FROM, UH, FROM THAT AREA. 
          SO PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THE STORE. 
          I KNOW CAPRI'S GOT ME MANY TIMES WALKING THROUGH THAT FOREVER 21 TO, UH, CUT THROUGH SO YOU COULD BE ONTO SOMETHING. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I, LET'S JUST USE AS A POSSIBILITY. 
          I'M, I'M NOT READY TO COMMIT TO SAY THIS IS THE CONCEPT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND MOONLIGHT SHOULD BE MOVING. 
          BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE A TREMENDOUS SYNERGY HAVING MOONLIGHT IN A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S GONNA BE BASED TOWARDS SENIORS AND CHILDREN. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE LOOK FOR THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND ACTIVATION FOR THAT RETAIL CENTER, UH, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BECOME SUCH A CRITICAL, UH, INTERSECTION WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO IF I CAN, THERE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, BY COMMISSIONER BOT. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YEAH, SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM PASSES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          UM, LET'S MOVE TO, UH, NB SIX, UH, DISCUSS, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THE, UH, NB 
          [NB 8. DISCUSS THE CREATION OF A STANDALONE MARKETING BUDGET SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]
EIGHT DISCUSS THE CREATION OF A STANDALONE MARKETING BUDGET, UH, DEDICATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, NB EIGHT DISCUSSED THE CREATION OF A STANDALONE, UH, MARKETING BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY GET DEDICATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND B EIGHT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          WELCOME, UH, RAQUEL WILLIAMS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          UH, WE WERE DELIGHTED TO SEE INTEREST IN HAVING A STANDALONE MARKETING BUDGET FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES BACK IN 2021. 
          WE INITIATED SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DOING A MARKETING CAMPAIGN AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND 
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ULTIMATELY THAT LED TO SUPPORT FROM THE MARIN CITY COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MARKETING CAMPAIGN, WHICH RESULTED IN THE MAKE A BOLD MOVE CAMPAIGN, WHICH YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH, THAT LAUNCHED IN 2022. 
          AND SINCE THEN, WE HAVE, UH, SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THAT PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE HAVE DONE MEDIA BUYS FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND I'M JOINED BY LINDA STEVENS IN OUR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESSES OF THAT MARKETING CAMPAIGN. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE VIDEO QUEUED UP, UH, IF PJ WOULD LIKE TO SHOW IT THAT LAUNCHED LAST YEAR. 
          WE DO HAVE A STANDALONE, UH, MARKETING BUDGET FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. 
          IT IS VERY CONSERVATIVE. 
          IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN USING THAT TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE MAKEABLE MOVE CAMPAIGN THROUGH AD BUYS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND TARGETED MARKETS LIKE, UH, CONNECTICUT, CHICAGO, SILICON VALLEY, WASHINGTON, DC AREA, CHICAGO. 
          AND SO WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AUGMENTING THAT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A MORE ROBUST CAMPAIGN. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN HAVING A GREATER REACH AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE INNOVATIVE AND UNIQUE AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE ADVISES. 
          SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, AND BEFORE YOU DO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, A MANAGER, UH, AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 
          AGAIN, STEPPING OUT OF MY LANE HERE. 
          UH, CERTAINLY NOT A MARKETING EXPERT. 
          I'LL LEAVE THAT TO MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER BOT. 
          ONE THING THAT I THINK IS LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE COULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB ON IS ALL THE TOP TIER EVENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DRIVEN, THEY COME TO TOWN, HAVE A BETTER GAME PLAN ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK THAT. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE EYE CONNECTIONS THAT'S STARTING, UM, MONDAY, RIGHT? AND, AND WE HAVE SOME OF THE PRIZE COMPANIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD, RIGHT? SO SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN FINANCE AND TECH THAT ARE COMING HERE. 
          AND WE DON'T NEED TO BUY MEDIA OVER IN SEATTLE, RIGHT? YES, WE DO, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SUPPLEMENT THAT BY HAVING A STRONGER PRESENCE AT EVENTS LIKE THIS, RIGHT? IT'S MIAMI HEDGE FUND WEEK COMING UP, AND THAT IS THE PERFECT COMPONENT FOR OUR BOUTIQUE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, HEDGE FUNDS, TECHNOLOGY FIRMS. SO, UH, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT INTO OTHER MARKETS THAT WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE SO BLESSED BEING MIAMI BEACH, WE HAVE THESE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS COMING INTO OUR CITY. 
          EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN CONVENTION AND BUSINESS THAT COMES INTO MIAMI BEACH FOR SOME REASON, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AS OUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND REALLY HAVE A, A GOOD GAME PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MARKET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TO THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE, WE AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 
          AND WE INVESTED SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, UH, TO HAVE A BOOTH THAT WE'VE ACTIVATED AT THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER. 
          WE WERE ACTUALLY AT I CONNECTIONS WELL BEFORE THEY CAME TO THE CONVENTION CENTER AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. 
          UH, WE'VE ACTIVATED THERE. 
          WE'VE ALSO, UH, MADE SURE THAT, UH, A FORMER MAYOR WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AT EYE CONNECTIONS, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY HELPING FACILITATE THEM AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE'VE ALSO LEVERAGED SPACE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER SO THAT EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A FOOTPRINT ON THE FLOOR, WE DO HAVE SPACE IN THE LOBBY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER WHERE WE'VE ACTIVATED OUR BOOTH AND THAT BOOTH IS CONVERTIBLE. 
          SO WE CAN DO A 10 BY 10, 20 BY 10, UH, AND EXPAND IT. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE BOOTH. 
          LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO IT. 
          WE'VE BEEN AT EMER, WE'VE BEEN AT ALL THE, THE TECH AND FINANCIAL SERVICES TYPE SHOWS THAT HAVE COME TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          AND SO, YES, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS INVESTING IN REACHING THOSE LOCAL TOUCH POINTS. 
          AND, AND I'M CERTAINLY NOT SUGGESTING, UH, THE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, FOOTPRINT THAT LIKE A DESIGN MIAMI WOULD HAVE, BUT SOME SORT OF ACTIVATION IN PRIDE PARK, RIGHT? YOU, YOU HAVE THESE THOUSANDS OF CONVENTIONS, WHETHER IT BE FOR COSMOPROF OR FOR, UH, I CONNECTIONS OR EMER, RIGHT? THAT'S OUR SPACE, RIGHT. 
          LET, LET'S UTILIZE IT. 
          WE, WE COULD HAVE A COOL, UH, LOUNGE AREA WHERE PEOPLE COME IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL KIND OF WITH A THEME OF, UH, MARKETING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? WE CAN DO WHAT WHATEVER WE WANT THERE. 
          IT WOULD BE EASY, YOU KNOW, UH, SET UP AND BREAKDOWN, YOU KNOW, NOTHING COMPREHENSIVE, UH, BUT A FOOD TRUCK OF SOME SORT OR A LOUNGE AREA, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO, THEY'RE COMING FROM CHICAGO. 
          THEY WANT TO BE OUTSIDE, UH, TODAY, IN THIS WEEKEND, NOT WITHSTANDING IN MIAMI BEACH. 
          UM, BUT THE WEATHER IS NICE. 
          LET'S GIVE THEM KIND OF A, A LOUNGING CONCESSION AREA OUT THERE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO MARKET HOWEVER WE SEE FIT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GO AHEAD. 
          LEMME TURN IT OVER. 
          GREAT. 
          HI, I AM LINDA STEVENS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY ON POINT, UM, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN WASN'T JUST TO, UM, BRING NEW 
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BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO TO RETAIN THE ONES WE HAVE. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALSO TO SHOW, UM, IN, IN THE FUTURE CAMPAIGN. 
          BUT, UM, FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, FOR THE AMOUNT OF BUDGET THAT WE'VE INVESTED, UH, WE'VE HAD REALLY SUCCESSFUL, UM, NUMBERS. 
          UM, THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT WAS INVESTED OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS, IT WAS IN THREE PHASES, UH, STARTING IN 2022 AND, UH, STILL ONGOING. 
          UH, WE SPENT 135,000, UM, $496 JUST FOR THE, THE MEDIA PLAN. 
          SO IF WE COULD GET, UM, AN INCREASED BUDGET, I, MY PERSONAL BELIEF AND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THAT THIS COULD GO REALLY FAR TO CREATE, TO BUILD UPON THE MOMENTUM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK WE LEVERAGE AS PART OF THAT, OUR RESOURCES THAT ARE HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SOME OF OUR NEW TENANTS THAT ARE NEW, OUR, OUR CITY, UM, ARIES CAPITAL, IT JUST TOOK 17,000 SQUARE FEET IN A NEW OFFICE PROJECT OVER IN SUNSET HARBOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIVATE EQUITY FIRMS IN THE WORLD. 
          CAN HAVE THEIR CEO ESSENTIALLY IN SOME SORT OF CAMPAIGN. 
          HEY, MOVE TO MIAMI BEACH. 
          WE JUST BROUGHT OUR OFFICE HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WELL-KNOWN, WELL-RESPECTED IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          WE HAVE SOME OF THE LEADING TECH PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT ARE LIVING IN OUR CITY. 
          OUR RESOURCES HERE ARE JUST UNPARALLELED. 
          LET'S USE THEM FOR A CREATIVE, LIKE, COME TO MIAMI BEACH CAMPAIGN. 
          YEAH. 
          WE DISCUSSED HAVING MAYBE AMBASSADORS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CALL AMBASSADORS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT KIND OF LEEWAY LIAISES WITH MY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK WE PINPOINT PEOPLE AS AMBASSADORS WHERE THEY'RE MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS. 
          THEY'RE SOME OF THE MOST RESPECTED BUSINESS MINDS IN THE WORLD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY'RE COMING OUT AND SAYING, MIAMI BEACH ISN'T THIS PARTY TILL YOU DROP PLACE ANYMORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE ARE THE EPITOME OF THIS, THE PRE PREEMINENT LIVE WORK PLAY DESTINATION IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 
          SO WE'RE READY TO DO A REFRESH OF THE MAKEUP ALL MOVE CAMPAIGN. 
          I DID WIN TWO AWARDS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE THINK NOW IS A GREAT TIME TO SPRUCE IT UP AND HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COLLATERAL THAT WE CAN USE TO AUGMENT THE ORIGINAL CAMPAIGN AND JUST HAVE IT LOOK A LITTLE FRESHER. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN SEEING THE, THE VIDEO. 
          YES. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          I WILL SAY IT'S THREE MINUTES. 
          BUT BANKING OF MOVING YOUR BUSINESS TO MIAMI BEACH, WE KNOW THAT BUSINESS IS ABOUT THE NUMBERS. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY YOU SHOULD MOVE YOUR BUSINESS TO MIAMI BEACH BY THE NUMBERS. 
          MIAMI BEACH HAS 365 DAYS OF THIS. 
          WE HAVE OVER 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO MEET YOUR NEEDS. 
          WHEN IT'S TIME TO LEAVE THE OFFICE, YOU'LL BE LESS THAN A 10 MINUTE WALK TO ONE OF OUR PARKS OR GREEN SPACES, OR EVEN LESS TIME IF YOU GO BY THIS OR THIS. 
          WE'RE NUMBER ONE, AS IN THE NUMBER ONE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WITH DIRECT FLIGHTS TO MOST MAJOR CITIES AND THE NUMBER ONE INTERNATIONAL CRUISE PORT. 
          WE'RE ALSO HOME A WORLD-CLASS PUBLIC ARTS COLLECTION VALUED AT OVER $20 MILLION. 
          ZERO ISN'T ALWAYS GOOD, BUT THIS TIME WE THINK YOU'LL LIKE IT. 
          AS IN 0% PERSONAL INCOME TAX, FOOD LOVERS CAN ENJOY A PLETHORA OF CULINARY EXPERIENCES AND FLAVORS. 
          MIAMI DADE HAS MANY MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANTS, INCLUDING SEVERAL IN MIAMI BEACH. 
          WE HAVE A DIVERSE WORKFORCE THAT SPEAKS OVER 120 LANGUAGES AND AN ABUNDANCE OF TALENT IN THE TECH, FINANCE AND HOSPITALITY SECTOR. 
          SPORTS FANS. 
          GREATER MIAMI IS HOME TO FIVE TOP NATIONAL SPORTS TEAMS. GIVING YOU PLENTY TO ROOT FOR THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER. 
          BRINGS OVER HALF A MILLION VISITORS TO THE CITY EACH YEAR WITH MEETINGS, TRADE SHOWS, AND CONVENTIONS IN INDUSTRIES LIKE TECH, MEDICINE, AND HEALTHCARE. 
          WE'RE ALSO HOME TO INTERNATIONAL EVENTS LIKE ART BASEL F1, THE AMERICAN BLACK FILM FESTIVAL, SOUTH BEACH WINE AND FOOD, AND MIAMI BEACH. 
          PRIDE FOR THOSE MOVING WITH FAMILIES. 
          EVERY MIAMI BEACH PUBLIC SCHOOL IS A CERTIFIED INTERNATIONAL BACCALAUREATE WORLD SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S A 100% SCORE. 
          WE'VE ALSO GOT YOU COVERED WITH A TON OF BUSINESS RESOURCES LIKE OUR BUSINESS CONCIERGE SERVICE THAT PROVIDES TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND RESOURCES TO HELP YOU OPEN, RELOCATE AND GROW YOUR BUSINESS. 
          AND THE EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW PROGRAM THAT CAN HELP YOU FAST TRACK RENOVATIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMITS. 
          THERE'S ALSO THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN GRANTS AND INCENTIVES, LIKE OUR JOB CREATION PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES UP TO $180,000 IN GRANTS, 
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OR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION INCENTIVE THAT OFFERS UP TO 20% IN TAX CREDITS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES. 
          YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THESE PROGRAMS AND MORE@MBBIZ.COM. 
          OH, AND WE FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE'VE GOT SEVEN MILES OF THIS. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT MIAMI BEACH IS A THRIVING BUSINESS CENTER JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO DISCOVER ALL WE HAVE TO OFFER FIRSTHAND. 
          SO THE ONLY NUMBER WE'RE MISSING IS HOW MANY DAYS UNTIL YOU MAKE A BOLD MOVE. 
          MAKE A BOLD MOVE, VISIT MB BIZ.COM TO LEARN MORE. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          GREAT WORK TEAM. 
          GREAT WORK. 
          YEAH. 
          IT, IT WOULD BE SPLICED SO WE DON'T SHOW THE WHOLE THREE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WOULD BE SPLICED. 
          SPLICING, YEAH. 
          AND YOU GUYS ARE TARGETING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          YES. 
          SO WE HAD A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AND, UH, ALSO ON, UH, MBTV, UH, OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE ALSO SOME OUTDOOR AND, UH, RADIO SPOTS. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT SLICING AND DICING THAT AND BEEFING UP THE SOCIAL MEDIA BUDGET IS THE WAY TO GO, WHICH IS TARGET. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT, BUT, YEAH. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU. 
          THAT'S A GREAT START. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT WE COULD DO HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'VE COLLECTIVELY DECIDED WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE AS A CITY. 
          THIS IS WHO WE CAN AND DO WANT TO BE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I MIGHT SUGGEST, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT SUPER CHEAP 'CAUSE IT'S PRINTING, UM, BUT MAYBE THERE'S, THERE ARE WAYS AROUND THIS, BUT SINCE WE DO CONTROL THE CONVENTION CENTER, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT THEY DO. 
          ALLOW PEOPLE TO PUT INTO THE GIFT BAGS OR THE BADGES OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO, UM, REQUIRE TO SOME DEGREE, ANYBODY WHO USES OUR CONVENTION CENTER FOR, UM, A CONVENTION AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BUSINESS ORIENTED, UM, TO HAVE A QR CODE ON IT OR A STICKER OR SOMETHING COLORFUL OR AN INSERT OR A FLYER OF SOME SORT. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE YOUR OFFICE VIEW WITH A PICTURE OF THE BEACH OR SOMETHING WITH A QR CODE. 
          SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BIG NECESSARILY, BUT IT, IT HITS NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE GIANT DECISION MAKERS. 
          IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO, SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE COMING TO THE CONVENTION AS VISITORS, UM, TO BUY FOR THE YEAR OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S REACHING OUT TO A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, IN A RELATIVELY LOW COST. 
          I MEAN, I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A THING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          LIKE THIS COULD BE YOUR LUNCH SPOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WALK, WALK FROM THE OFFICE OR, OR SOMETHING. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, BUT, BUT JUST SORT OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO'S HERE FOR A WORK PURPOSE AT A CONVENTION CENTER EVENT GETS THIS THING LIKE, HELLO, YOU COULD BE DOING THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, DRIVING HOME INSTEAD OF FLYING HOME. 
          SO AS OF, UH, DECEMBER, WE ALSO PUT, UH, THE KIOSKS AT THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER. 
          SO WE, WE ARE THERE WITH A QR CODE AND THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO EVEN AMPLIFY IT. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THE THING WITH KIOSK IS BY THE TIME YOU LEAVE, YOU'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, I'M NOT STOPPING ANY PLACE ELSE. 
          OR YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT 'CAUSE YOU'RE COMING IN A DIFFERENT DOOR, OR, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, YOU DON'T THINK IT APPLIES TO YOU, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET OR ON YOUR BADGE, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AT SOME POINT AND BE LIKE, OH, I DON'T NEED TO BE IN PEORIA WHEN IT'S FEBRUARY. 
          SO , UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK TO OUR PARTNERS OVG 360, YOU KNOW, AS THEY NEGOTIATE AGREEMENTS FOR THE VARIOUS EVENTS AS WELL AS THE G-M-C-V-B. 
          MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED FOR CERTAIN EVENTS. 
          AND CAN WE KIND OF TIE THIS IN WITH THE, UH, WITHOUT TOO MUCH DISCUSSION, JUST GIVEN TIME, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD? WELL, JUST TO PUT SOME CLOSURE ON THIS ONE. 
          YEP. 
          IS THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDING AUGMENTING OUR BUDGET TO ALLOW FOR MORE YES. 
          ADVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF I, IF I CAN, UM, SO I THINK THIS ONE WOULD BE THE RETURN TO THE COMMISSIONER WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER AN ENHANCED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MARKETING BUDGET, UH, DURING THE UPCOMING FY 26 BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO THAT'S, AND HOPEFULLY FOR YOU THERE, YOU COULD SEE THE GOOD ROI THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SPEND AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'LL BE THE COMMISSION'S DECISION ON WHATEVER MONEY IS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. 
          WHO WOULD BE MAKING THAT? UM, CAN I MAKE A MOTION? I, I BELIEVE SO. 
          UNLESS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS THE CHAIR CAN'T CHAIR MAKE A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, YOU CANNOT. 
          I'LL MAKE IT. 
          YOU CAN SECOND THANK YOU. 
          BUT HE CAN SECOND, IS THAT CORRECT? I CAN SECOND YES. 
          YEAH, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ITEM PASSES, UH, THREE TO NOTHING. 
          AND THEN MB SIX, 
          [NB 6. DISCUSS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PRIVATE SECTOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD]
UH, DISCUSS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PRIVATE SECTOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          MB SIX. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THIS, UH, IT'S ALONG THE LINES OF AMBASSADORS AND JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD THAT LIVE HERE IN MIAMI BEACH THAT ARE THE PREEMINENT 
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LEADERS. 
          I OFTEN, UH, THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE, BECAUSE OF HOW ICONIC OUR CITY IS THAT WE HAVE THESE UNPRECEDENTED RESOURCES THAT JUST ABOUT NO OTHER CITY, UH, IN AMERICA HAS AT OUR DISPOSAL. 
          LET'S GET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE INVOLVED. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW ALL THE BOARDS RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I WANT THE CALIBER OF PEOPLE TO BE ON THIS BOARD, THAT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. 
          I IS VOLUNTEERING TO STAY TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT JUST TO, TO GIVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          LIKE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CALIBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. 
          THAT TAMIKA, I KNOW YOU'RE LAUGHING BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S MAKE IT 11:00 PM UH, . 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR HERE. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'RE STRETCHED THIN, AND I KNOW THE PERSONNEL CONSTRAINTS ABOUT ADDING ALL THESE DIFFERENT BOARDS, BUT I THINK THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THAT ROI ON THIS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TYPE OF BOARD WHERE YOUR TEAM IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET INVOLVED. 
          UH, JUST FOR THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH THIS CALIBER AND ECHELON OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE LIVING IN OUR CITY TO CHAIR. 
          WE ARE VERY EXCITED  ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A RESOURCE. 
          WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS A RESOURCE TO AUGMENT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, THE CALIBER OF INDIVIDUALS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY CEOS OR OTHER C-SUITE PROFESSIONALS, BOARD DIRECTORS, UH, VISIONARY ENTREPRENEURS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A, A FORMAT WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE AND LIAISE WITH THESE TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS IN A VERY CONSTRUCTIVE WAY. 
          AND SO WE VIEW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          YES, THERE ARE SOME STAFFING CONCERNS, BUT I KNOW THAT YOUR OFFICE HAS, UH, OFFERED TO PROVIDE STAFF SUPPORT IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW THIS BOARD COULD BE PUT TOGETHER. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH REPRESENTATION AMONGST THE VARIOUS INDUSTRIES THAT WE EITHER HAVE HERE OR WE WANT TO HAVE MORE OF. 
          WE THINK THAT PERHAPS EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION COULD APPOINT ONE PERSON AND MAYBE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, UH, AT LARGE. 
          YEP. 
          SO THAT WE'D HAVE A NINE MEMBER BOARD IF THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU DESIRE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY A TWO YEAR INITIAL TERM FOR THIS COMMITTEE OR THIS BOARD JUST TO MEASURE EFFECTIVENESS TO SEE IF THIS IS WORKING, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN AN ITERATION OF THIS IN THE PAST THAT IT, IT DIDN'T REALLY MATERIALIZE IN THE WAY THAT ANYONE EXPECTED. 
          AND SO PERHAPS SETTING SOME MEASURABLE GOALS FOR THIS COMMITTEE, MAYBE COMING UP WITH A, A INITIATIVE THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT. 
          UH, WE DEFINITELY FORESEE THAT THEY COULD GIVE US SOME POLICY, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, LIAISING WITH MEMBERS OF INDUSTRY, PROVIDING TESTIMONIALS, UM, GIVING US INDUSTRY INSIGHTS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF, BECAUSE WE ARE SIMPLY NOT WITHIN THOSE INDUSTRIES OURSELVES. 
          SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. 
          WE THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE HELP OF YOUR OFFICE. 
          UH, I THINK WE CAN STRETCH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF RESOURCES SO THAT THIS GROUP CAN HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT MIAMI BEACH. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I'LL PROVIDE WHATEVER YOU NEED FROM MYSELF AND FROM, UH, OUR OFFICE WHILE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          SO IF I MAY, I THINK THE, YOUR MOTION OR SOMEONE'S MOTION MIGHT BE TO RETURN TO COMMISSIONER OF THEIR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH A PRIVATE SECTOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD AS PRESENTED. 
          IF ANYONE WANTS TO TAKE THAT MOTION, I'LL, I'LL MOVE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          UH, 
          [NB 19. DISCUSS FUNDING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY FOR NORTH BEACH]
NEXT WE'LL HEAR THE, UM, UH, NB 19 DISCUSS FUNDING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY FOR NORTH BEACH VICE MAYOR BOT MB 19. 
          THIS CASE DISCUSS FUNDING FOR COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY FOR NORTH BEACH MB 19. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I, I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT WE HAD NEVER DONE THIS IN A HOLISTIC, COMPREHENSIVE WAY FOR NORTH BEACH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE SAID EARLIER TODAY, AND I SAY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, WE HAVE 13 NEW BUILDINGS COMING UP IN AN EIGHT BY SIX BLOCK RADIUS. 
          AND, UM, AND MORE BEYOND THAT, WE'VE GOT PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AT NORTH BAY VILLAGE. 
          WE'VE GOT PROJECTS COMING FROM SURFSIDE AND ALL OF THAT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, OR A LOT OF IT AT LEAST, UH, IMPACTS US IN NORTH BEACH UNDER THE 72ND SQUARE, UH, STREET PARKING LOT. 
          WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF OTHER LITTLE SMALLER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, BEING PROPOSED OR IN THE, IN PROCESS OF, AND I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY TO GET APPROVAL, YOU NEED TO DO, UM, AS A DEVELOPER, YOU NEED TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND GET THE CITY TO AGREE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COMPREHENSIVE AND WE DO 
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FOR SOUTH BEACH. 
          AND I WOULD ARGUE THERE IS MORE NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN NORTH BEACH RIGHT NOW THAN, THAN THERE IS NEW BUILDING FROM SCRATCH, UM, IN SOUTH BEACH OR MID BEACH. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A SINKHOLE AT ABBOTT IN 69TH OR WHATEVER THE EXACT LOCATION WAS. 
          BUT IT WAS, IT WAS AROUND THERE WHERE LITERALLY SOMEBODY'S PICKUP TRUCK WAS, WAS, HAD SUNK INTO AND WAS MIRED IN, IN SEWAGE. 
          THAT IS WILDLY UNACCEPTABLE IN A CITY OF OUR CALIBER. 
          AND TO THINK THAT WE ARE APPROVING ALL OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT HAVING THE FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE OF HOLISTICALLY WHAT OUR CITY CURRENTLY HAS AND NEEDS. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION BIT BY BIT, BUT I, I THINK IT IS WELL PAST TIME THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DO THIS FOR NORTH BEACH BEFORE WE GO TOO MUCH FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S MY LITTLE SOAPBOX SPEECH JAY HAVE AT IT THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER HIT MOST OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. 
          UM, NORTH BEACH IS PRIME REAL ESTATE, LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON. 
          13 NEW PROJECTS COMING ON AS WELL AS THE, THE TOWN CENTER. 
          UM, WHEN NEW PROJECTS COME ON, THERE'S A, UH, INDIVIDUAL LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND WILL IT, UH, FIT INTO THE SYSTEM? CAN THE SYSTEMS HANDLE IT? CAN IT PROVIDE WATER? CAN IT ACCEPT WASTEWATER? UH, AND HOW DOES IT FIT INTO THE FABRIC OF, OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE? IN ADDITION, UH, WASTEWATER FROM SATELLITE CITIES TO THE NORTH BAY HARBOR VILLAGE, UH, BELL HARBOR SURFSIDE ALL COME THROUGH NORTH BEACH AND THAT WASTEWATER CONTINUES THROUGH THE CITY. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE THOSE WASTEWATER FLOWS FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES IS GONNA END UP GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S PIPE. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. 
          UH, A STUDY WAS DONE IN SOUTH BEACH, A VERY COMPREHENSIVE STUDY, WHICH ALLOWED THE, UH, ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SYSTEMS COULD TAKE AND IF SOMETHING WERE COMING ONLINE IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION, WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOT ONLY THERE, BUT IN THE REST OF THE AREA, ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT, UH, DEMAND. 
          UM, IN THE CASE OF NORTH BEACH, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT ANALYSIS, THAT MODELING TOOL, AND EVERYTHING IS LOOKED AT AT ONE BY ONE. 
          UM, SO THE, UH, ADMINISTRATION IS IN SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, SUCH AN AN ACTIVITY. 
          UM, THERE IS A COST PROVIDED THERE, UH, IN THE MEMO IN THE TUNE OF $400,000. 
          UM, SO HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, I'LL MOVE IT. 
          SO, SO THIS, THIS WOULD BE, UM, AS THE ITEM IS PER HAS PRESENTED TO RETURN THE COMMISSIONER OF THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AND CONSIDER FUNDING A COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY FOR NORTH BEACH DURING THE FY 26 BUDGET PROCESS. 
          YEP. 
          COMMISSIONER BOT MADE A MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ SECONDED. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          THERE'S 13 TALL BUILDINGS COMING, NOT BY US. 
          NO, NO. 
          IT WAS I HIGHER COMMISSIONS. 
          NO, I KNOW. 
          THE NORTH BEACH TOWN CENTER. 
          YEAH. 
          DISASTROUS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN RIGHT. 
          FOR UNITS AND SHORT TERM RENTALS BE AWESOME. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE THEM PAY FOR THIS? UM, IS THERE ANY POSSIBLE WAY THAT AS PART OF GETTING YOUR BUILDING PERMIT, YOU NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TO A FUND THAT WILL PAY FOR THIS? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THEM, RIGHT? WELL, NO, WE'RE DOING IT FOR US, FOR US THREE. 
          YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THE, WHEN THESE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS ARE PROPOSED, UM, THEY DO PAY FOR A REVIEW OF WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, UH, WHETHER THE CITY DOES THE ANALYSIS AND THEY PAY FOR IT, OR THEY HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT PREPARES THAT ANALYSIS AND WE REVIEW IT. 
          THERE IS NOTHING PRESENTLY AS FAR AS PREPARING A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DEVELOPERS WOULD PAY INTO IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOLD BEYOND PUBLIC WORKS TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT THAT CAN, UM, COME TO PLAY. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED WAS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, UH, IF THERE'S A THOUGHT THAT WE WANT TO MODIFY THE FAR IN NORTH BEACH, THEN CLEARLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS REALLY SHOULD BE DONE. 
          BUT WHO PAYS FOR THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD PAY OR CITY WOULD PAY? THE END OF THE DAY IT'S PROTECTING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT'S, IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE COSTLY, I THINK TO HAVE TO DO EMERGENCY MASSIVE EMERGENCY REPAIRS ON MAJOR SEWER LINES IF SOMETHING WENT TERRIBLY WRONG A COUPLE OF TIMES. 
          UM, OR EVEN ONCE, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG FAN, AS YOU GUYS KNOW OF MEASURE TWICE 
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AND CUT ONCE AND DIDN'T HAVE YEAH. 
          YOU'VE NEVER HEARD ME SAY THAT. 
          SHE'S SHOCKING. 
          UM, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR DOWN THE LINE OF APPROVING ALL THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT WORK WITHOUT HAVING THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT CAN GO WHERE I, I FIND, YOU KNOW, BORDERING ON IRRESPONSIBLE. 
          UM, AND I, AND SO I, I THINK I LIKE THE IDEA OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDING IF WE CAN, BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO HOLD ANYTHING UP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I DUNNO IF RAQUEL'S STILL HERE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OH, THERE HI. 
          RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF CRA FUNDS CAN COVER THIS SORT OF THING, UM, BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS RIGHT WITHIN THAT, THE CRA, UM, UH, PERIMETER. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION JUST TO CLARIFY THAT WOULD FUNDING FOR THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY? THE STUDY, YEAH. 
          SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THE CRA COULD JOIN IN WITH THE CITY, UH, IN COVERING THE COST FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY. 
          BUT I IMAGINE THAT SOME OF THE WORK, UH, IS RELATED TO AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND THE CRA CAN ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO, UH, WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. 
          SO I THINK THE CRA COULD SUPPLEMENT AND, AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO DO SO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF I, IF I MAY, THIS IS A, A TYPE OF STATE WOULD TRADITIONALLY BE FUNDED THROUGH OUR STORM, UM, OUR WATER AND SEWER ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING AB A LOT MORE ABOUT WATER AND SEWER NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, BUT STAFF CAN LOOK AT THAT THROUGH THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS IF THERE'S A, UH, A COST SHARING ABILITY OR IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO LEMME JUST ASK ABOUT, UM, IS IF WE PUT THIS THROUGH THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS, THAT MEANS WE CAN'T EVEN START THE PROJECT. 
          WE CAN'T EVEN START TALKING TO POSSIBLE VENDORS UNTIL OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF THIS COMING YEAR. 
          SO IS THERE A WAY TO FUND THIS OUT OF NEXT YEAR? BUT, BUT, UM, IF, IF I MAY, AND KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, IT'LL BE VERY ENLIGHTENING WHEN WE DISCUSS, UH, UTILITIES NEXT MONTH RIGHT NOW WILL BE DIFFICULT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AND OR EVEN MAYBE HAVING THE CRA PUT IN THEIR PORTION OF IT, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER ENDS UP BEING AND STARTING THE PROCESS NOW THIS YEAR, AND THEN FINISHING IT NEXT YEAR. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT THE SCOPE OF THE RESEARCH AND WHO WE'RE GONNA HIRE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIAL SPECIALLY DURING THIS BUDGET YEAR IS THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE EVALUATED DURING THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS WHEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO, TO MAKE ALL OF THESE WONDER ISSUES. 
          BUT HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, IF, IF THE, THE SCOPE OF AREA 80% OF IT IS WITHIN, UH, THE CRA HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, SO THAT WOULD MEAN, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, THAT THE CRA COULD COVER 80% OF THE COST. 
          THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN WE NEED TO FIND $450,000 FROM OUR BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST, I JUST GOT A PRELIMINARY VIEW OF THE, THE AREA, UH, THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE STUDY. 
          AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL OF NORTH BEACH AND THE CRA UH, PROBABLY TAKES UP MAYBE 30 TO 40% OF THE, THE STUDY AREA. 
          I THINK THAT THE CRA'S FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR AS WELL, GIVEN THE TREND THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PROPERTY TAX GROWTH. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT A SET ASIDE FOR THIS YEAR IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          I THINK THE FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, WE HAVE APPLICANTS WHO ARE COMING ON BOARD FOR NORTH BEACH FOR PROJECTS IN NORTH BEACH, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE, UM, DEFRAY THE COSTS FOR THEM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, GOING TO AT LEAST, DID WE VOTE ON THAT? I BELIEVE SO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          DID WE VOTE ON THAT? YES. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THE VOLUMES CLOSED. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, GONNA TRY AND GET TO AT LEAST TWO MORE ITEMS. UH, COMMISSIONER 
          [OB 1. DISCUSS BEAUTIFYING WASHINGTON AVENUE BY ENHANCING LIGHTING AND STREETSCAPING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.]
ROUSING GONZALEZ, UH, I KNOW WASHINGTON AVENUE HAS BEEN A FOCUS OF YOU. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF PASSION ABOUT IT. 
          SO LET'S GET TO, UH, C FOUR CC, I'M SORRY, WHICH ITEM? UM, I THINK O OB ONE O OB ONE OB ONE O OB ONE. 
          UH, DISCUSSED BEAUTIFYING WASHINGTON AVENUE BY ENHANCING LIGHTING AND STREETSCAPING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. 
          O OB ONE. 
          I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO SAY INTO THE RECORD. 
          O OB ONE CAN OBI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          SO NOTED. 
          THANKS, CHASE. 
          OKAY, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT COULD WE DO, WHAT COULD WE DO TO BEAUTIFY WASHINGTON AVENUE? WE HAVE THIS ITEM HERE, BY THE WAY, THE TREES WERE 
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WRAPPED AND THEY LOOK BETTER, THEY LOOK A LOT, THEY ACTUALLY LOOK REALLY NICE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT. 
          THEY UPGRADED IT. 
          I'M GLAD YOU GUYS SUPPORTED IT. 
          UM, I THINK IT, IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DID A NICE JOB AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE THE KIND OF LIGHTS THAT CHANGE COLORS TOO. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID, UNFORTUNATELY, NO. 
          OH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WHITE AND THEY WILL STAY WHITE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THEY LOOK GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS. 
          THE RED SIDE BOX ARE 1500. 
          THE EXPOSED SHELL SPECIALTY CONCRETE IS 1 MILLION. 
          SORRY, 1,000,500 FOR JUST THE RED CONCRETE. 
          THE SPECIALTY SHELLS ARE 1.9 MILLION STAMPED SPECIALTY SIDEWALKS, 1.7 MILLION. 
          THE 1.9 MILLION, ALMOST $2 MILLION IS, IS WHAT I WOULD CHOOSE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN YOU GO TO A MAJOR, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S THE GEO BOND MONEY FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE, CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD PICK THE NICER MATERIAL BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR CORRIDOR IN AN AREA TRAFFICKED BY TOURISTS, RESIDENTIAL LAKE. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT, UM, IT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 
          BUT ONE QUESTION IS, THERE'S AN AREA BETWEEN FIFTH AND SIXTH, THAT PILOT PROGRAM THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REDONE WITH NEW SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING LIKE THAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA REDO THAT. 
          CAN OKAY. 
          THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT. 
          AND STEPH HAS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE OPTIONS OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE IS SOME COSTS. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY COST IS ONE CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, THE OTHER CONSIDERATION THAT WE FEEL RELATIVELY STRONG ABOUT IS THE MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER WE BUILD GOING FORWARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WASHINGTON AVENUE, AS YOU KNOW, IS A CHALLENGE TO MAINTAIN NOW TO KEEP CLEAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME WITH PRESSURE WASHERS AND EVEN SPECIALIZED PRESSURE WASHERS OUT THERE TRYING TO KEEP IT CLEAN. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WITH RELATIVELY FLAT SURFACE. 
          WHEN I START LOOKING AT STAMPED OR SHELLS OR ANYTHING ELSE, UM, I NOW CREATE A SURFACE THAT IS NOT SO FLAT. 
          IT'S GOT GROOVES, IT'S GOT INDENTATIONS, UM, DIRT FOOD, WASTE GUM, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          GET INTO THOSE THINGS SO THAT IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO REALLY MAINTAIN IN A CONVERSATION WITH THE WASHINGTON BID. 
          THEY ARE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING MORE ELABORATE THAN JUST A RED, UH, CONCRETE SIDEWALK. 
          BUT THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF TRYING TO KEEP WHATEVER YOU BUILD CLEAN, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT CLEAN AND NOT MAINTAINED, YOU REALLY LOST EVERYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          UM, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, THEY ARE CONTEMPLATING OTHER AREAS ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE WHERE THEY CAN HIGHLIGHT WITH DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME PLANS FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO DO IS TO LOOK AT AREA WHERE WE CAN USE THE RED FLAT CEMENT CONCRETE SIDEWALK. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT, BEAR WITH ME. 
          BEAR WITH ME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YET HAVE CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, CONCRETE OR A DIFFERENT KIND OF FINISH ON THE SIDEWALK SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED SO THAT STAFF, WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT. 
          IF YOU THINK ABOUT WASHINGTON AVENUE, THE WEAR AND TEAR AND EVERYTHING THAT GETS HAPPENS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE, THE PEDESTRIANS THERE, THE BUSES THAT ARE THERE, THE BUS STOPS, THE RESTAURANTS, ALL THOSE AREAS BECOME A CHALLENGE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO TRY TO MAINTAIN A SIDEWALK SURFACE. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE USE THAT VOLCANIC ROCK THAT THEY USED ON ESPANOLA WAY? IT'S EXPENSIVE. 
          IT'S CALLED LIKE ADO KEEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? IN THE 1100 BLOCK OF LINCOLN ROAD? NO, ON ESPANOLA WAY. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S DONE WITH A VOLCANIC ROCK. 
          IT'S A ROCK. 
          IT'S INDESTRUCTIBLE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS CAN'T MAINTAIN THAT VOLCANIC ROCK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T MAINTAIN. 
          I DO KNOW THAT HAVING THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF SHADES OF PINK JUST LOOKS TERRIBLE OVER TIME. 
          YOU KNOW? I KNOW IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN WHEN IT'S NOT CLEAN. 
          SOMEBODY GOES OUT AND ACTUALLY PAINTS IT AND THEY DON'T, YOU HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS PAINTING THE SIDEWALKS. 
          YOU'VE GOT LIKE PAINTED SECTION FADED SECTIONS, SECTIONS THAT LOOK GOOD. 
          UM, LET'S, LET'S GO WITH A GET, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT TO NEXT MONTH AND GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT WILL COST. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, ESPANOLA, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY AREA THAT IS MORE HIGHLY TRAFFICKED WITH FOOD AND PEOPLE THAN ESPANOLA WAY. 
          AND IF ESPANOLA WAY, IF WE SPENT THE MONEY TO DO THAT AREA TOO, MAYBE THAT TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN WASHINGTON AVENUE IS REALLY GONNA JUST BE COMPLETELY TRANSFORMATIONAL. 
          I DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANNA DO THAT 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE PER SQUARE FOOT COMPARED TO THE, UH, SHELL CONCRETE. 
          BUT I MEAN, THE SHELL 
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CONCRETE, THEY'RE ON, ON OCEAN DRIVE, THEY SAID, FINE, WE'LL DO THE SHELL CONCRETE. 
          SO WHY WOULD IT, WHY IS WASHINGTON DIFFERENT FROM OCEAN? I'M ONLY SUGGESTING I I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE LIVE THROUGH TRYING TO MAINTAIN WHAT'S THERE. 
          I, AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OCEAN DRIVE? I DON'T WANNA PICK, WHAT ABOUT SOUTH POINT PARK? LIKE THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THIS MATERIAL. 
          IS IT HARD FOR YOU GUYS? YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME? WELL, YOU SOUTH POINT PARK AND IN A PARK THERE, THERE'S OTHER PARKS THAT HAVE A SIMILAR TREATMENT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THOSE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THE STANDING FOR A BUS AND THE GO MENDING UP ON THE SIDEWALKS. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRASH DISPOSAL OR, OR THE, THE TRASH CANS, THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE SOMEBODY'S EATING ICE CREAM AND THING, YOU KNOW, AND MATERIALS GET DEPOSITED ON A SIDEWALK THAT YOU LATER WANT TO COME TRY AND CLEAN. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE SIMILAR THINGS ON ESPINOL WAY, AGAIN, LOOKING AT 12 BLOCKS OF A CONTINUOUS MATERIAL, TRYING TO KEEP IT MAINTAINED AND KEEP IT THE SAME. 
          THE OTHER ISSUE WITH SPECIALTY TREATMENT OF SIDEWALKS IS ESPECIALLY A CORRIDOR LIKE WASHINGTON AVENUE, WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS REVITALIZATION IS GONNA BRING GROWTH, GONNA BRING NEW BUILDINGS OR NEW THINGS ONLINE, THAT MEANS UTILITY CUTS FOR ELECTRIC WATER, SEWER, WHATEVER GETS REVAMPED, IT'S GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA BE CUTTING IT UP SO THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE, WELL, YOU DON'T LIKE THE DIFFERENT COLOR RED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE AGED CONCRETE IS AGING DIFFERENTLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHEN YOU START TO GO TO, ESPECIALLY TREATMENT LIKE SHELLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S VERY HARD TO REPLICATE A SHELL THAT WAS POURED FIVE YEARS AGO WITH A SHELL THAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY AND MAKE THAT WHOLE THING MATCH. 
          HENCE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT A BASE OF A, A SIDEWALK WITH SPECIALTY AREAS AND SPECIALTY PLACES THAT WE CAN CONCENTRATE OR MAINTENANCE EFFORTS THERE. 
          UM, WHILE THE REMAINDER OF HER IS EASY, EASIER TO CLEAN AND MAINTAIN, CAN YOU GET AN ESTIMATE FOR THE OTHER MATERIAL? I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          AND I ALSO, I HAD, I WAS TALKING TO SOME OF THE GUYS THAT ARE LEASING PROPERTIES ON COLLINS IN WASHINGTON, AND THEY HAD A VERY COOL IDEA TOO. 
          THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU GUYS CAME IN AND DID SOMETHING TOTALLY CRAZY ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT ONE, LIKE ONE TYPE OF ZIGZAG FOR COLLINS, SO THEN SOMETHING REALLY COOL FOR WASHINGTON AND JUST MADE IT LIKE SUPER ARTSY FUNKY, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO GET SAMPLES OF WHAT WE COULD DO AND MAINTAIN. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY. 
          THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO CHANGE OUT A STONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THERE'S A, THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE ANY OTHER INTERNATIONAL, UH, DESTINATION IS ABLE TO HAVE A, A BETTER MATERIAL THAN JUST A CEMENT AND MAINTAIN IT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GET BETTER AT DOING THAT. 
          AND, AND THESE ARE OUR PUBLIC RATES OF WAY. 
          I OFTEN, I I, YOU KNOW, I WALK THE FACILITY SOMETIME ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF LINCOLN ROAD AND THEY HAVE ADAM KINGS THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE. 
          AND I SEE SOMETIMES THAT IN THE PAST WE WOULD PULL OUT A STONE AND JUST FILL IT WITH CEMENT . 
          BUT WE STOPPED DOING THAT NOW. 
          AND I THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN REALLY GOOD IN FACILITIES AFTER WE WALKED IT SEVERAL TIMES OF ACTUALLY REMOVING A STONE AND PUTTING BACK A STONE. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF LEARNING HOW, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE STRETCHED, BUT IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE PEOPLE TO, IN, IN MY OPINION, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND STAFF THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE DOING THIS TYPE OF MAINTENANCE ARE WHERE WE NEED MORE. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, THAT IS KEY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER PERSON TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT IF THE STREETS DON'T LOOK GOOD, NOBODY'S GONNA WANNA COME HERE TO DO OUR BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THE POWER OF TWO GUM MACHINES TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT THAT'S DONE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CREWS, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CLEANING AND, AND FACILITIES NEEDS. 
          I I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT, WOULD IT BE THE SIDEWALKS ARE PUBLIC WORKS AND NOT FACILITIES AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND YOU COULDN'T HIRE PEOPLE WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS LIKE HAVE JUST PEOPLE THAT DO NOTHING BUT MAINTAIN SPECIALTY SIDEWALKS THAT WE CREATE SO THAT WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM, INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING A PLOP OF CEMENT, THEY ACTUALLY REPLACE A STONE. 
          LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB ON WHO'S IN CHARGE. 
          SO LINCOLN ROAD IS FACILITIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU GUYS, WHY IS LINCOLN ROAD FACILITIES, BUT WASHINGTON AVENUE IS NOT SIDEWALK VERSUS WHAT I, THE, THE TYPICAL SIDEWALK IN, IN, THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS, IS MAINTAINED BY PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UH, SANITATION DIVISION IS IS RESPONSIBLE 
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FOR CLEANING THE PRESSURE WASHERS AND, AND THE LIKE, UH, AS WELL AS THE TRASH RECEPTACLES THAT ARE THERE. 
          SO FACILITIES ALREADY HAS EXPERIENCE WITH THE AT KEEN, RIGHT. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN CHANGING THEM OUT AND AT FIRST YOU WERE NOT VERY GOOD AT IT, BUT NOW YOU'RE GETTING BETTER, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STONES, THE ZA ON 1100 BLOCK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO ACTUALLY PUBLIC WORKS HANDLING THAT NOW , BUT UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UM, ADDRESSED THAT BY PROJECTS. 
          IT'S VERY COSTLY TO REINSTALL THOSE, UM, THOSE STONES MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND WE DO IT IN PORTIONS. 
          THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING IT. 
          AND IF I MAY THROUGH YOU, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SPENT IN THE LAST YEAR ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE JUST FOR ONE PROJECT AND IT WAS A SMALL SECTION. 
          IT WAS 200,000, 200,000. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR ONE SECTION OF LINCOLN ROAD. 
          ONE SMALL SECTION, ONE SMALL SECTION OF 1100 BLOCK. 
          MAYBE WE'RE BETTER OFF DOING LIKE A NATURAL STONE BECAUSE THAT STUFF IS INDESTRUCTIBLE. 
          I THINK IT'S MUCH. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE I'LL COME IN OUT OF MY LANE AGAIN. 
          UM, , I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AT COMPETE. 
          YEAH, NO, OF COURSE. 
          OVER ON SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE, AND I BRING THIS UP, WE COULD ALL SHARE ANECDOTAL THINGS, BUT THAT IS IN FRONT OF MARY ELL VILLAGE IS PROBABLY THE MOST HIGHLY PEDESTRIANIZED AREA IN THE US OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO AND NEW YORK. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL ALL THE TIME. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE PEOPLE CLEANING WITH A TOOTHBRUSH NIGHT AND DAY OR IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MATERIAL THAT IS USED, BUT IT'S SO HIGHLY PEDESTRIANIZED, SO MUCH FOOT TRAFFIC AND IT MAINTAINS THIS BEAUTIFICATION, UH, WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK IF YOU JUST KIND OF, UH, DO SOME CURSORY, UH, INQUIRIES ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL THEY USE, WHETHER THAT'S A BETTER SOLUTION OR NOT. 
          AND I, IF I MIGHT MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, I LIKED YOUR IDEA OF, OF, UM, DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATING THE AVENUES BY THE WAY THE SIDEWALKS ARE TREATED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I KNOW WE'RE VERY, UM, ATTACHED TO OUR RED SIDEWALKS FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'VE DONE WALKTHROUGHS NORTH BEACH WHERE WE'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, EVERY SQUARE FOOT IS A DIFFERENT SHADE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, PAINT IT AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE 'CAUSE IT WEARS UNEVENLY AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE PAINTING. 
          AND LIKE THE WHOLE THING IS A MESS. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF RESISTANCE TO GETTING RID OF THE RED SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, ROLLING OUT THE RED CARPET FOR VISITORS, WHICH EVERYBODY LOVES, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO EVOLVE IT. 
          AND BY THAT I MEAN MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT, UM, HAVING INLAYS ALONG THE SIDEWALKS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN BRAZIL, OBVIOUSLY SOME, IN, IN RIO YOU'VE GOT, UM, UH, THE, THEY'RE, UH, BURLEIGH MARKS SIDEWALKS ALONG IANA, AND THOSE ARE HANDSET LITTLE STONES. 
          BUT IN, IN, UM, THE SIDEWALKS ACROSS IN THE PARIS MUSEUM, YOU STILL HAVE BUR MARKS SIDEWALKS. 
          BUT THOSE ARE, YES, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 
          UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE INSET STONES, BUT THEY HAVE STRIATIONS OF COLOR. 
          IT'S A DESIGN, RIGHT? SO COULD WE START USING RED CEMENT AS PORTIONS OF DESIGN ELEMENTS? SO YOU'RE STILL CONTINUING THE HISTORIC, UM, ASPECT OF ROLLING OUT THE RED CARPET, BUT IT'S NOT THIS GIANT STRETCH THAT WEARS UNEVENLY. 
          WE COULD MAYBE CREATE THE DESIGN SO THAT THE RED ACTUALLY GOES IN THE LOWER TRAFFIC PARTS OF THE SIDEWALK AND IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE YOU'LL JUST BE CHIPPING OUT THAT LITTLE BIT, IF NOT THE ENTIRE THING. 
          AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD DO ZIGZAGS ON ONE AND STRIPES ON ANOTHER AND CHECKERBOARDS ON A THIRD, LIKE WHATEVER IT IS. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE THINKING OF TRYING TO DO THINGS CREATIVELY, MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN RFP FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY TO COME IN AND JUST REDO THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK. 
          I MEAN THAT'S LIKE, NOW YOU'VE TAKEN THEM TO A WHOLE NOTHER, I MEAN I, IF, IF I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT COULD YOU COME BACK IN A MONTH AND LET'S MEET BEFORE THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH AND I WILL COME TO THE MEETING EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT ON GONNA BE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          WHOA, WHOA. 
          EASY, EASY BEFORE . 
          SEE HERE ARE MY ITEMS. YOU'RE STILL ON IT. 
          YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE. 
          YOU'RE STILL ON IT? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, WHATEVER. 
          I'LL COME TO HERE OFF MY ITEM. 
          PART POINT IS, COULD YOU GIVE US, GIVE US FIVE MATERIALS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO BE FUNKY AND COOL AND GO AND ONLINE AND GOOGLE PEDESTRIAN AREAS IN PLACES LIKE BARCELONA, MADRID, MARY BRICKLE VILLAGE, JUST LOOK AT INDUSTRIAL 
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MATERIALS BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE THE COLLECTIVE, UM, AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T LIKE WHAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T DO IT IS NOT AN ANSWER THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO ACCEPT. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN, JAY WE CAN DO THIS. 
          WE CAN GET, IF YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE TO ONLY GO AROUND AND CHANGE STONES, THEN SO BE IT. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE MATERIAL THAT'S ON THE BEACH WALK? THAT'S THE MOST EVER. 
          WHAT, LIKE WE KNOW HOW TO MAINTAIN THAT, RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT LIKE? IT THIS CONCRETE PAVERS. 
          CONCRETE, CONCRETE. 
          IT'S ALL CONCRETE. 
          IT'S CONCRETE STAMPS. 
          THERE'S CONCRETE THERE, THERE IS PAVERS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          YES, THERE'S PAVERS. 
          IT'S, IT'S A MIXTURE OF, OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND DIFFERENT PATHWAYS TO CREATE DESIGNS. 
          UM, YES. 
          I, AND WE CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SET THAT AS THE BAR. 
          I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IN TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG, AND I KNOW THAT THE BID IS ALSO LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS TO WASHINGTON AVENUE TO UTILIZE THAT GEO BOND MONEY. 
          UM, AND THEY'VE ALSO GOT A DEADLINE. 
          THE, THE GAMES THAT ARE COMING IN IN 26 OR 27. 
          SO THEY HAVE A DEADLINE OF WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO. 
          AND THERE'S UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IS A MOVE TO, TO GET THIS OUTTA COMMITTEE AND GET IT TO THE DRAWING BOARD WHERE WE CAN START TO WORK WITH, WITH FOLKS, GET CONTRACTS LINED UP AND GET SOME WORK DONE. 
          UM, IF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ENGAGE THE BID AND GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE TABLE, GET THEIR THOUGHTS TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE DRAWING BOARD WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. 
          UM, IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU THAT WE ENGAGE THEM AND COLLECTIVELY COME BACK WITH HERE'S SOME, SOME PROJECTS AND PLANS, SOMETHING. 
          WILL YOU INVITE US ALL TO THE MEETING SO WE CAN, I WOULD LOVE TO ATTEND THE MEETING WITH THE BID AND YOU GUYS AND COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF MATERIAL THAT WE CAN ALL WRAP OURSELVES AROUND SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE DEFINING FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE ONLY DOING FIFTH TO FIFTH STREET TEAM STREET. 
          BUT IF IT LOOKS GOOD, CAN YOU IMAGINE? I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS CONVENTION CENTER COMPLEX, WE COULD JUST GO ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, UP. 
          BUT IT HAS TO BE BEYOND, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO PLACES LIKE MARBA, SPAIN, LIKE RESORT TOWNS, THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE WHITE MARBLE. 
          THEY DO IT, THEY DO IT. 
          YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND THEY GOTTA HAVE A SPECIAL MACHINE TO CLEAN IT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MEAN, IT'S, AND IT'S SLIPPERY IN THE RAIN THOUGH. 
          IT IS SOMETIMES. 
          WELL, NO, I THINK IT'S A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, THEY, IT, IT DOES GET SLIPPERY SOMETIMES, BUT POINT IS, UM, THEY CAN DO IT. 
          AND ESPANOLA WAY IS OBVIOUSLY, HOW ARE WE MAINTAINING ESPANOLA WAY? WE'LL GOT THE INFORMATION AND WE WILL, WE'LL, WE'LL REPORT BACK WITH THEM. 
          AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE, SORRY, JOHN CARLO PENA IN INTERIM SEAT ENGINEER IN REGARDS TO THE C CITY CENTER AND ALL THOSE. 
          I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE, UM, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE AGREEMENTS TO MAINTAIN THAT AREA. 
          THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THE, THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY, THEY, THEY WENT AND THEY HAVE, THEY PROVIDE THE PLANS AND THEY DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, WHICH THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE AS WE DO HAVE IN THE CITY FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY WANNA PUT ANY, ANY OTHER MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT OUR, OUR TYPICAL MATERIAL SIDEWALK OR CONCRETE OR THEY HAVE TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH US AND BE ABLE TO, TO RESTORE AND AND MAINTAIN. 
          SO WE COULD LOOK WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN, AND IF I HAVE THAT AS A, AS AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THE, THE, THE, THE, THE INITIAL INVESTMENT. 
          BUT THEN IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME ALONG WASHINGTON, THAT WILL BE A ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE COULD LOOK IN TERMS OF THEM MAINTAINING, TELL US, YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED. 
          DOES IT NEED TO BE PRESSURE CLEANED ONCE A WEEK? DOES IT NEED TO BE PRESSURE CLEANED TWICE A WEEK? DO YOU NEED A LITTLE MACHINE THAT DRIVES UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND CLEANS IT? I, I, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT IF, YOU KNOW, WELL, I THINK THAT WE WOULD, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT. 
          LIKE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT IS WHAT WE WANNA INVEST IN, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO LET COME BACK NEXT MONTH. 
          WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND GET ALL THE FACTS SO YOU GUYS CAN, OKAY. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE OUR FIRST GUEST APPEARANCE SCHEDULED. 
          CHRIS, YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE. 
          YOU'RE THE CHAIR. 
          WE WOULD SHOW THIS ITEM TO RETURN TO FERC WITH THE COST ESTIMATE FOR THE, FOR SPECIALTY SIDEWALKS AS DISCUSSED. 
          YEP. 
          JUST PERFECT. 
          AND, UH, FIVE OPTIONS. 
          YEP. 
          FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          LAST ITEM WOULD LIKE TO HEAR TODAY. 
          UH, SORRY, IT'S THE UMBRELLA ITEM. 
          JASON. 
          I, I HAVE IT AS, UH, NB 15. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, YES. 
          MB 15 DISCUSS 
          [NB 15. DISCUSS A CITY PARTNERSHIP WITH BEACHFRONT CONCESSIONAIRES FOR EVENT SPECIFIC UMBRELLA PROGRAM]
A CITY PARTNERSHIP WITH BEACH BEACHFRONT CONCESSIONAIRES, YEP. 
          FOR EVENT SPECIFIC UMBRELLA PROGRAM. 
          MB 15. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU LIZ. 
          AND I'LL JUST KICK THIS OFF, UH, IN ITEM OF MY THOUGHT, WHEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TOOK OUT ANY REFERENCE TO LGBT TOURISM IN ITS, UH, STATE BUREAUS, YOU KNOW, ITS PAMPHLETS, 
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UM, OBVIOUSLY MIAMI BEACH, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING JUST A MECCA AND A SAFE HAVEN FOR OUR LGBT COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT IS A KEY ECONOMIC DRIVER AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THIS ISN'T JUST SYMBOLIC OR CEREMONIAL. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, ONE, UH, CLEARLY A SIGNAL TO SAY THAT WE STAND WITH OUR LGBT COMMUNITY. 
          BUT THEN ALSO AS A WAY TO SAY, WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, WE ARE INVITING, AND OUR LGBT COMMUNITY IS, UH, UH, CENTRAL PILLAR, UH, AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO MY THOUGHT WAS TO TAKE, UM, FOR PRIDE MONTH, TAKE ONE OF THE BEACHES AND, UH, LET'S CALL THAT 12TH OR 13TH STREET BEACH WOULD BE A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR, UH, FLAGSHIP GAY BEACHES AND ACTUALLY HAVE REPLACED FOR THAT MONTH, UM, WITH THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAVE THERE THAT RUNS OUR BEACH CONCESSIONAIRES INSTEAD OF THEIR, UH, YOU KNOW, USUAL UMBRELLAS, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, RAINBOW UMBRELLAS FOR THAT. 
          UH, I THINK I'M JUST PICTURING LIKE THE AERIAL DRONE FOOTAGE OR VIEWS OF THAT, UH, THE ENTIRE BEACH CLAD IN RAINBOW FLAG UMBRELLAS WOULD BE SUCH A GREAT SIGNAL AND I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS, UM, ONE REAFFIRMING OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR LGBT COMMUNITY, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, DRIVING ECONOMIC TOURISM, UH, THAT IS RELATED TO THAT SEGMENT AS WELL. 
          SIMILARLY FOR SIMILAR PURPOSES, BUT MORE SO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOWING OUR STRONG SUPPORT WOULD BE FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. 
          I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT MARKETING STRATEGY. 
          IN ADDITION TO ALSO SHOWING OUR SUPPORT FOR SUCH A, A CRITICAL, UH, MOVEMENT, UH, HAVE PINK UMBRELLAS UNDER ANOTHER BEACH FOR A BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. 
          SO KICK IT OVER TO FACILITIES TO SEE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THIS. 
          OKAY, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. 
          ELIZABETH MIRO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR FACILITIES AND FLEET MANAGEMENT. 
          FOR THE RECORD, UM, WHAT WE BROUGHT FOR YOU IS A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE. 
          UM, WE USE A STANDARD UMBRELLAS THAT ARE USED VASTLY THROUGHOUT OUR BEACH BY OUR BEACH CONCESSIONAIRES. 
          AND WE ALSO GAVE YOU A MANY OF WHAT THAT PRICING IS LIKE. 
          SO FOR THE, THE PINK UMBRELLAS, WHICH WE WOULD USE DURING, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, THESE WERE AROUND ABOUT $350 A UNIT. 
          AND THOSE MULTICOLORED UMBRELLAS THAT WE WOULD DO DURING PRIDE MONTH ARE ABOUT $500 A A UNIT. 
          WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO LOOKED AT HOW MANY UMBRELLAS YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, DEPLOY. 
          SO, UM, AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, WE USE BOUCHER BROTHERS WHEN THEY DEPLOY THEIR UMBRELLAS ON LUMA PARK AND ON A REGULAR DAY, THEY CAN DEPLOY AS MANY AS 300 UMBRELLAS AND ON BUSIER TIMES AS MANY AS 600. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE GAVE YOU A MENU OF OPTIONS. 
          UM, FOR THE UMBRELLAS ON 13TH STREET, IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT, A HUNDRED UMBRELLAS AT 500 WOULD BE ABOUT $50,000. 
          UM, AND WE ALSO ALLOCATED ABOUT 5% OF THAT. 
          ANY OF THESE COSTS FOR STORAGE BOXES, OKAY? MM-HMM . 
          UM, ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONALLY FOR THE PINK UMBRELLAS, LIKE I SAID, A MINIMUM 300, IF WE WANTED TO DEPLOY THOSE, WHAT THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S $105,000. 
          AND AT MAXIMUM, IF WE WANTED TO DEPLOY ANYWHERE FROM 650 UMBRELLAS, THERE'LL BE 227. 
          THIS IS AN OP, YOU KNOW, MANY OF OPTIONS. 
          UM, WE LOOK FOR THE COMMITTEE'S DIRECTION, HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED, UM, AND HOW MANY UMBRELLAS THAT WOULD VARY, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT THE FISCAL IMPACT WOULD BE. 
          YEP. 
          AND MR CFO, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PAY THIS OUT OF RESORT TAXES BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT DRIVER FOR TOURISM. 
          ALL OF THE, THE DOLLARS FOR RESORT TAXES ARE, ARE ALLOCATED. 
          AND I, AS I'VE, I THINK I'VE SPOKEN A NUMBER OF TIMES, IS THAT, UH, WE SHOULD ALWAYS THINK OF OUR RESORT TAX FUND AND OUR GENERAL FUND, KIND OF LIKE A SIAMESE TWIN THAT THEY'RE, THEY FEED FROM FROM EACH OTHER. 
          SO WHETHER IT'S RESORT TAX, GENERAL FUND, THEY REALLY ARE THE SAME THING SINCE THEY, THEY FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER. 
          AND DID WE LIAISE WITH OUR BEACH CONCESSIONAIRE, THE BOUCHER? IS THAT SIMILAR TO THEIR COST FOR UMBRELLAS? YES, IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE WE GOT THE, THAT REFERENCE COMMISSIONER, WHY DON'T WE JUST PARTNER WITH LIKE A ROSE WINE FOR THAT MONTH AND THEY CAN BRAND IT WITH LIKE WHISPERING ANGEL, WHATEVER. 
          THEY GIVE US THE UMBRELLAS AND THEY CAN SELL THEIR ROSE ON WHICHEVER BEACH THAT IS FOR THE MONTH. 
          PICK A BEACH, PICK A ROSE. 
          AND I LOVE IT BECAUSE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE AREAS I GOT THIS IDEA WAS BY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE BRANDED CONCEPTS THAT THEY HAVE IN CAPRI. 
          UM, CHRISTIAN DIOR DID, UH, YOU KNOW, POPUP EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, I THINK MILA OPENED A SISTER RESTAURANT OVER ON THE MIAMI RIVER WHERE THEY HAD A LOUIS VUITTON POPUP AND IT JUST HAD SUCH LIKE A, A UNIQUE BRANDING. 
          UM, AND TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE SUCH A GREAT AND IMPORTANT CAUSE THIS'S NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR ENTIRE CITY IN A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THAT, I THINK IS A FABULOUS IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WOULD WE DO THIS THROUGH, SO THEN DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FIND A ROSE SPONSOR AND A BEACH FOR OCTOBER? DO YOU WANNA DO IT ALL UP AND DOWN LO PARK OR DO YOU WANNA JUST I THINK 
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JUST ONE BEACH, RIGHT? UM, SO MAY MAYBE WE LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED FOR WHAT? THAT AND WE EXPLORE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. 
          IF I CAN, AND I, AND I SEE YOUR CITY ATTORNEY'S PROBABLY GONNA JUMP IN, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING, IF YOU WOULD WANNA, LET'S TURN UP BEFORE HE GETS THERE. 
          . 
          NO, I'M JUST, IF UH, YOU WOULD WANNA RETURN THE STATE COMMISSION WITH A FAVOR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE A SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THIS, UM, UMBRELLA, UMBRELLA PROGRAM AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE, IF THAT WOULD BE END UP BEING COMMUNICATIONS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THE ADMINISTRATION COULD LOOK AT. 
          UM, BUT EXPLORING THAT SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD END UP BEING AN RFP OR IF IT ENDED UP BEING SOMETHING MORE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE, RICK WANTS TO DEFINITELY SAY SOMETHING I'M THE USEFUL LIFE FOR SOME OF THESE UMBRELLAS IS IN THE YEARS. 
          CORRECT? YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF WE'RE ONLY USING THEM FOR ONE MONTH OUT OF THE YEAR, THESE HAVE A USEFUL DEPRECIATION LIFE OF 10, 15 YEARS. 
          SO WHILE WE'LL HAVE THAT UPFRONT COST, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE ON A YEARLY BASIS. 
          SO I'LL ASK, ARE WE ABLE TO AMORTIZE THAT COST? WELL, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM. 
          I, I THINK IF THE CONCEPT IS FOR THE CITY TO EXPLORE, WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE, TO SPONSOR, YOU KNOW, A BRANDED ONE, WHETHER IT BE A PINK OR ENDED UP BEING A RAINBOW WITH, WITH A VENDOR, YOU KNOW OF ROSE MIGHT BE THERE, BUT, UH, MAYBE I THINK THAT WOULD PART OF THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT TO, TO, YOU KNOW, THIS RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE THREE YEARS AND THAT WOULD BE THE LIFE OF THE UMBRELLAS. 
          OR, OR MAYBE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO SELL OUR CONCESSIONAIRE ARE ABLE TO SELL ROSE ON THAT BEACH. 
          WELL THAT'S IDEA. 
          THEY CAN USE THAT TO PAY, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE IDEA. 
          WE, WE PICK A BEACH, WE MAKE OCTOBER BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, WE MAKE IT THE PINK BEACH AND WE HAVE, UH, THEY CAN SELL PINK OR I GUESS LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE FIND A ROSE COMPANY OR A PINK CHAMPAGNE COMPANY AND YOU SELL THAT AND GET THE PINK UMBRELLAS. 
          I THINK IT'S LIKE EXCUSE AND WE CO-BRAND MIAMI BEACH. 
          WELL TRY CO-BRAND MAYBE BEACH BOUCHER AND WHISPERING ANGELS IF, IF I CAN. 
          SO IF, IF THIS GOES BACK TO COMMISSION AND THEY ENDORSE THE IDEA THEY HAVE ADMINISTRATION EXPLORE A SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD SEE THE ADMINISTRATION MORE THAN LIKELY. 
          THAT'S WHERE I ASKED RICK TO JUMP IN, WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COMMISSION PROBABLY TO ENDORSE THAT THAT CONTRACT OR AN RFP OR AN ITN OR WHATEVER THAT CONCEPT WOULD BE. 
          SO, SO COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TWO, AT LEAST TWO BITES OF THE APPLE ONE ENDORSING THE CONCEPT. 
          SO STAFF WOULD DO WORK. 
          AND THEN WHAT THE ACTUAL THAT THAT'S CORRECT, JASON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRES TO SEE WHETHER THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE APPROPRIATE LICENSURE TO SERVE ALCOHOL ON THE BEACH. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE THAT NOW. 
          I MEAN, NOBODY ELSE SERVING ALCOHOL ON THE BEACH DOES NOW, I, I SAY THAT SOMEWHAT IN JEST, BUT MY, MY GOODNESS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SELLING MARGARITAS HAM SANDWICHES, CROQUETAS OUT OF THEIR BACKPACKS? BUT THE HOPE MIGHT BE THAT THEY BUT ARE CONCESSION. 
          NO, I KNOW THE HOPE MIGHT BE JUST THAT THE NAMING RIGHTS ALONE ON IT MIGHT BE THERE AND IF THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK THE CHAIR'S IDEA OF LEAVING IT OPEN-ENDED FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THEN COME BACK TO COMMISSION WITH A PLAN. 
          BUT ASK THEM AS A PILOT PROGRAM IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, LET'S TRY SELLING ROSE WITH PINK UMBRELLAS. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND I THINK ACTUALLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER'S ONE OF OUR SLOWEST TOURISM MONTHS, BUT IF WE PUT THIS OUT THERE, PINK ROSE ON OUR BEACH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ MIGHT NOT LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE'S NO, NO, NO, NO, NO SMOKING BUT PINK ROSE. 
          BUT PINK ROSE HE MIGHT GO ALONG WITH, WE COULD SELL HIM ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, UM, MARKETING TOOL FOR US TOO TO DRUM UP SOME. 
          SO, SO IF I CAN, I THINK, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A HARD START IN LESS THAN ONE MINUTE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          START, UH, RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR SPECIALTY UMBRELLA PROGRAM LEAVE OPEN-ENDED. 
          YES. 
          HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS INITIATIVE. 
          EVEN IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE ON THE SPONSORSHIP. 
          UH, WE CAN FIND FUNDING, PRIORITIZE THAT WOULD BE ICING ON THE CAKE OR ROSE ON THE WHATEVER. 
          UM, BUT LET'S BIFURCATE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          I DON'T WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE CONTINGENT ON HAVING TO GO OUT AND FIND SPONSORSHIP. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE ICING ON THE CAKE IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO. 
          WE CAN HAVE A TWO POLLS HAVE IT A RETURNING COMMISSION WITH FAVOR RECOMMENDATION TO EXPLORE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR SPECIALTY UMBRELLA PROGRAM AND TO, UH, DEVELOP A BUDGET ENHANCEMENT TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE 26 BUDGET PROCESS. 
          IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, UM, SINCE WE GAVE YOU A MENU OF OPTIONS, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE FUNDING OPTIONS TO BE SO WE CAN SUBMIT THAT AS PART OF THE FISCAL 26 BUDGET? DO YOU HAVE ANY VISUALS OF WHAT THAT COULD, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK. 
          I MEAN, DEFINITELY ON 13TH STREET, HAVING A HUNDRED UMBRELLAS WOULD MAKE A, A GREAT IMPACT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          DO, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UH, UMBRELLAS ARE ON YOUR AVERAGE BEACH NOW? UM, FAR MORE THAN THAT OR NOT, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, MICROCOSM OF LOOMIS AND IT'S, UM, ANYWHERE FROM 600, BUT IT COULD BE SO MUCH MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S ACROSS ALL OF LOOMIS PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S 10 BLOCKS. 
          MM-HMM 
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          SO LET'S GO WITH A HUNDRED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BECAUSE THIS WON'T BE ACROSS ALL OF LOOMIS PARK, THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE BLOCK SPECIFIC. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHO'S MAKING THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SECOND, IT'S YOUR BABY. 
          SECOND. 
          THIS SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          BY THE WAY, YOU WILL FIND THAT SPONSOR BECAUSE SOMEBODY APPROACHED US ONCE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO, WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING COOL TO TIE IT TO, LIKE BREAST CANCER AWARENESS. 
          AND WE COULD MAKE WHATEVER THE SPONSOR IS, DONATE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO BREAST CANCER AWARENESS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW THE CITY RAISES MONEY AND PUTS A LOT OF CAPITAL INTO, YOU KNOW, RAISING MONEY FOR BREAST CANCER. 
          OH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE PILATES ACTIVATIONS, YOGA ACTIVATIONS, UH, ALOE COULD HELP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S TAKE A PICTURE BEFORE, YEAH. 
          FINAL, THE FINAL COUNT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M PROUD TO SERVE WITH A BOTH OF YOU. 
          ONE SHOULD BE TWO AND THREE FINAL. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          CHUCK, THOUGH. 
          I'M LIKE 99.9% SURE. 
          YOU'RE THE ALTERNATE. 
          SO YOU'RE STUCK WITH US ? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE SHALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU.
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