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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.I WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR, FOR JOINING US TODAY AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE ATTENDING IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION, MR. ATTORNEY.
LET'S DO A RULE CALL TO ESTABLISH, UM, SURE.
UH, SO COMMISSIONER SUAREZ IS, IS ABSENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER BOT HERE AND CHAIRMAN FERNANDEZ PRESENT.
AND COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.
TODAY'S MEETING AT THE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IS CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND STAFFING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 5 0 5 9 9 2 3 0 3 7 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 5 0 5 9 9 2 3 0 3 7.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON ON THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
[2. BARCLAY PROPOSAL – LDR AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS]
[11. DISCUSS EARMARKING ALL RENT IN EXCESS OF THE MINIMUM FIXED RENT RECEIVED PURSUANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND MB MIXED USE INVESTMENT, LLC, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER HEADQUARTER HOTEL FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.]
DIRECTOR, DO WE HAVE ANY WITHDRAWALS, DEFERRALS, ANY CHANGES TO TODAY'S AGENDA? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR, THERE'S TWO DEFERRALS ONE.ITEM TWO, THE BARCLAY PROPOSAL, LDR AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS IS BEING DEFERRED TO A FUTURE DATE.
AND ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSSING OR MARKING ALL RENT IN EXCESS OF THE MINIMUM FIXED RENT RECEIVED PURSUANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND M BEING MIXED.
USE INVESTMENT LLC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER HEADQUARTERS HOTEL FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING SOME MORE PORTING, PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS BEING DEFERRED TO A FUTURE DATE.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA TAKE OUT OF ORDER ITEMS NUMBER 23, NUMBER FIVE AND 22.
I'M GONNA TAKE THOSE ITEMS FIRST, THEN I'M GONNA PROCEED WITH THE PRIORITY ITEMS AND THE REGULAR AGENDA.
WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA SECOND AHEAD? MAKE A MOTION.
THE, THE, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, THE CHAIR WILL SECOND THE, THE AGENDA.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, THE, THE, UM, THE, THE AGENDA IS SET.
IS THERE, SO IS THERE A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA? YES, SIR.
IS THAT BY, CAN WE SHOW THAT, UH, NO ADDITIONS OR ANYTHING? I THINK WE'RE DEFERRING ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND DEFERRING ITEMS NUMBER 11.
AND I'M TAKING ITEMS NUMBER 23, NUMBER FIVE.
AND NORM NUMBER 22 OUT OF ORDER BEFORE THE PRIORITY AGENDA.
WITH THAT, THE AGENDA IS SAID, MR.
[23. DISCUSS THE REGULATION OF THE USE OF GENERATORS, SOUND SYSTEMS, AUDIOVISUAL EQUIPMENT, AND STAGES AT PRIVATE RESIDENCES USED AS PARTY HOUSES.]
DIRECTOR, I'M GONNA START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 23.ITEM NUMBER 23 IS DISCUSS THE REGULATION OF THE USE OF GENERATORS, SOUND SYSTEMS, AUDIO, VISUAL EQUIPMENT AND STAGES AT PRIVATE RESIDENCES USED AS PARTY HOUSES.
UH, THANK YOU, MR. MR. DIRECTOR.
AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE'VE HAD LONG STANDING ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.
WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS, LARGE SCALE, UH, PARTY HOUSES AND OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED DURING HIGHLY POPULAR PERIODS, UM, IN THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, WITH SO MANY ATTENDEES AND THE USE OF OF COMMERCIAL GRADE, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT IT'S NOT ONLY AFFECTED THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF, OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO AFFECTED PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, DURING, DURING THE MOST RECENT ART WEEK, UH, WE PILOTED, UM, CERTAIN, UH, PERMITS FOR, FOR THESE LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL PARTIES.
AND I THINK THAT THE EFFECT OF THOSE OF THOSE PERMITS, UH, WERE POSITIVE.
AND THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT TO, TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT ALSO AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS THAT OTHERWISE THE CITY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMPOSE.
UM, WE NEED THESE REGULATIONS FOR OTHER TIMES OF, OF, OF THE YEAR.
SO WE'VE ASKED, I'VE ASKED OUR CHIEF DEPUTY ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, UH, ROB ROSENWALD TO COME BEFORE US TODAY AND TO PRESENT US WITH OPTIONS TO EXTEND THE PILOTED MEASURES TO OTHER TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN ROBERT ROSEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU.
ONE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE LDRS AND ONE IS A, THE CREATION OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT PROGRAM FOR LARGE PARTIES AT RESIDENTIAL RES, UH, HOUSES.
THE FIRST BEING THE ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, THAT IS AN ORDINANCE THAT MIRRORS THE, UH, SUCCESSFUL
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ART BASEL PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE DID FOR PALM HIBISCUS AND STAR ISLANDS THIS PAST YEAR THAT, UH, ALLOWED US TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS AND, UH, CONTROLS IN ORDER TO PROTECT RESIDENTS' QUALITY OF LIFE DURING ART BASEL ON THOSE ISLANDS FOR VERY LARGE INDUSTRIAL GRADE COMMERCIAL STYLE PARTIES.UH, THIS NEW ORDINANCE WOULD MAKE THE EXACT SAME REQUIREMENTS AS THAT RESOLUTION, UH, DURING A BROADER PERIOD OF TIME FOR VARIOUS HIGH IMPACT PERIODS LIKE SPRING BREAK AND, UH, UH, NEW YEAR'S AND OTHER LISTED TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SPECIFICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPRING BREAK, MEMORIAL DAY, INDEPENDENCE DAY, HALLOWEEN, AND, UM, AND ART BASEL, THE HOLIDAYS, NEW YEAR'S EVE.
AND IT, AND IT'S BROAD DATES AROUND THAT TIME.
UH, SINCE THE DATES, UH, DUES CHANGE EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL CHANGES AT CITYWIDE NOW, UH, IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE PHS ISLANDS.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE FIRST, OR I CAN GO ONTO THE SECOND ORDINANCE AND JUST BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THAT AS WELL.
WELL, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND, AND MY AND MY COLLEAGUES WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGULATIONS FOR PARTIES WHERE EITHER FIREWORKS ARE INVOLVED, WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN 100 ATTENDEES TO, TO BE EXPECTED, WHERE WE, UH, ARE EXPECT FOR THERE TO BE MORE THAN 50 VEHICLES PICKING UP OR DROPPING OFF OR PARKING, UH, AT A PARTY OR, OR EVENTS, UH, WHERE THERE IS THE USE OF INSTI INSTITUTIONAL OR COMMERCIAL GRADE SPEAKER LIGHTS AND OR GENERATORS OR WHERE YOU HAVE INSTITUTIONAL OR COMMERCIAL GRADE BARS, UM, BEING, BEING USED AT THESE PARTIES.
AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT THOSE ARE GENERAL TERMS, BUT ALSO THAT FOR ANY APPLICATION, THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH THE ORDINANCE RETAINS THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE ANY RESTRICTIONS OR CONDITIONS THAT HE BELIEVES WOULD PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENCES.
UH, THAT ANY, IF ANY, THAT HE WISHED TO IMPOSE THAT WERE SUGGESTED BY A RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, OR TO DENY THE PERMIT OUTRIGHT IF, UH, THOSE NEGATIVE EFFECTS COULDN'T BE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY MITIGATED.
AND THAT'S, AND, AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU, YOU, YOU HIT ON IS THAT ANY OF THESE TYPES OF PARTIES THAT, THAT WE JUST ENUMERATED WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A REVIEW BY THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH WHO COULD ALSO IMPOSE THESE RESTRICTIONS, UH, TO PROMOTE, UH, A, A SAFETY.
UH, BUT WE ALSO, BY REQUIRING THIS REVIEW, WE CAN ALSO MAKE SURE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A PORTA POTTY OR SOME OTHER STUFF, THAT YOU HAVE THE PROPER BUILDING PERMITS AND YOU COMPLY WITH THE PROPER SAFETY REGULATIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO LET'S, LET'S PROCEED WITH THE, WITH THE SECOND PART OF THIS ITEM.
AND THEN THE SECOND ORDINANCE IS ALSO SORT OF A COMPANION ITEM THAT, UH, UH, TO THE PARTY HOUSE THEME.
AND IT AMENDS, UH, THE LDRS THE PROHIBITION ON COMMERCIAL USE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
WE SAW DURING OUR PILOT PROGRAM ON PHS ISLANDS, UH, THIS PAST ART BASEL, SOME WORKAROUNDS THAT PEOPLE HAD USED, THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE OUTDATED IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, MAKE A FEW MINOR AMENDMENTS TO INCLUDE, UH, SOLICITING DONATIONS THAT DON'T GO TO A CHARITY, UH, PROHIBITING THAT PROHIBITING, UH, PROMOTING THE PARTY ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANY OTHER KIND OF ADVERTISING PLATFORM.
AND ALSO, UH, HAVING THE EVENT BE SPONSORED BY ANY FOR-PROFIT ENTITY.
AND HOW ABOUT, UM, THE DONATIONS? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, THE DONATIONS, UH, HAVE BEEN USED AS, AS A LOOPHOLE, UH, THE ASSOCIATION TO, TO A NONPROFIT AS A, AS A, YOU KNOW, THE DONATION OF OF PRO OF PROCEEDS FROM THESE PARTIES BEING DONATED TO, TO NONPROFIT HAVE ALMOST BEEN USED AS A LOOPHOLE IN THE PAST.
IS THAT BEING ADDRESSED WITH THESE POLICIES? WELL, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST IS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REALLY VERIFY THAT THE DONATIONS WERE IN FACT GOING TO ANY CHARITY OR NONPROFIT.
AND SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE SAYS IS IF YOU DO SOLICIT DONATIONS, UH, THAT YOU MUST GIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT DIRECTLY TO THE NONPROFIT.
SO WE HAVE TWO ITEMS BEFORE US, UH, TODAY, COLLEAGUES.
UM, I WANNA OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO, UH, TO, TO COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM, FROM THE BIGGEST BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
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CLOSE DOWN WHAT ARE EFFECTIVELY COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THE THE BETTER WE ARE.UM, I IS THERE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO THROW THEMSELVES A BLOWOUT BIRTHDAY PARTY, IF THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THIS ISN'T PROHIBITED, IT JUST REQUIRES A REVIEW.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AND, AND AS AS, AS IT RELATES TO THAT, BEFORE WE GO TO COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I RECALL VIVIDLY FROM THE LAN GO AROUND WAS THE ISSUE OF PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
AND THIS, THIS ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS TO HELP MITIGATE THE ISSUES OF PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
JUST LIKE WITH ANY SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, THE CITY MANAGER CAN, UH, IMPOSE ANY CONDITIONS THAT HE WANTS, INCLUDING PARKING AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION STRATEGIES.
AND IF THOSE ARE VIOLATED, WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES OF EITHER VIOLATING THAT OR LET'S SAY SAYING, I'M NOT GONNA GET THE PERMIT.
YOU WOULD THE CODE AND THE POLICE WOULD SHOW UP AT YOUR PARTY AND ORDER YOU TO CEASE AND DESIST.
IF YOU DID NOT DO THAT, YOU WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ARREST UNDER, UH, THIS SECTION AND VARIOUS OTHER PROVISIONS OF LAW.
AND IN ADDITION, THERE WOULD BE, UH, FINES IF YOU WERE FOUND LIABLE BY SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RANGING FROM ONE TO $15,000.
IS THERE, UH, AN ABILITY TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM OBTAINING A PERMIT IN THE FUTURE? OH, I'M SORRY.
IN ADDITIONALLY, UH, IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH A PARTY THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WITHOUT FIRST GETTING THAT PERMIT, YOU WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM GETTING ANY SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT ON ANY PROPERTY OWNED BY THE OWNER FOR THE NEXT 13 MONTHS FOR THE NEXT.
SO, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY DURING FORMULA ONE WEEKEND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST USE MY HOUSE AS A COMMERCIAL PARTY HOUSE.
UM, BUT THEY CHOOSE, OKAY, I'M NOT GONNA GET THE PERMIT.
UM, NOW WE CAN PROHIBIT THEM FROM GETTING THE PERMIT NEXT YEAR, AND IF THEY STILL THROW THE PARTY, THEY CAN BE SUBJECT TO ARREST AND OTHER HARSH PENALTIES.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ AND, UH, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
I'D LIKE TO BE A CO-SPONSOR ON THIS ITEM.
WE SAW THE LOOPHOLES AND THE MANY THINGS THAT HAPPENED BOTH ON PALM HIBISCUS STAR, BUT ALSO ON THE VENETIAN.
BUT THOSE AREN'T THE TWO, UH, EXCLUSIVE AREAS THAT HAVE THESE ILLEGAL PARTIES.
IT HAPPENS ON NORTH BAY ROAD, IT HAPPENS IN LAGOS AND LAGO ISLAND AND IN ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY.
SO THIS IS REALLY A GOOD WAY TO TIDY UP SOME, UH, LOOPHOLES AND LOOSE ENDS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.
AND YOU ARE ALREADY CO-SPONSOR ON OKAY.
I DIDN'T, ON BOTH ITEMS. SO YOU CAN REPLACE YOUR SUGGESTION OF A CO-SPONSOR WITH MY SUGGESTION,
I LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD BE SO INCLINED.
I, I, I BELIEVE IN TEAMWORK AND I, AND I LOVE BEING ABLE TO CO-SPONSOR WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, AND JUST FOR PURPOSES OF OF THE RECORD, I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE OF OUR COLLEAGUE AND COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMISSIONER DAVID SUAREZ.
WITH THAT, ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON, ON THE, ON THIS ITEM? IF YOU'RE ATTENDING IN PERSON, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM OR IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, UH, FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIA ZOOM AND YOU'LL BE RECOGNIZED.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PALM HIBISCUS STAR ISLANDS ASSOCIATION.
AND I, ON SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, UM, WE'D LIKE TO SUPPORT THESE TWO, UH, WELL, THE AMENDMENT AND THE ORDINANCE, UM, THE, THE DISTURBANCE DURING ART BASEL AND PRIOR TO THAT FORMULA AND WEEKEND LATIN GRAMMY WEEK, UH, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.
AND, UH, THE DISTURBANCES ARE MULTILAYERED.
THEY START WITH A FOUR DAY, UH, LOAD IN THEN A LOADOUT PROCESS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY CREATING NIGHTCLUBS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE PARKING, UH, ISSUE IS INCREDIBLE.
SO IF NO EMERGENCY VEHICLE COULD, UH, REACH ANY RESIDENT WHO CALLED FOR IN AN EMERGENCY.
SO WE'VE GOT A REAL SITUATION.
WE'RE ALSO DRAINING, UH, CITY RESOURCES, UH, MBPD, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CODE COMPLIANCE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT BIG NUISANCE.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
AND THANK YOU, AMY, AND TO AND TO YOUR ASSOCIATION FOR RAISING THESE ISSUES TO, TO OUR ATTENTION AS, AND AS COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR PALM HIBISCUS STAR, BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN AN ISSUE AT THE VENETIAN ISLANDS AND THROUGHOUT OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY.
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IN NORTH BEACH ON STILLWATER, ON BISQUE POINT, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN BAYSHORE AND NORTH BAY ROAD.PINE TREE ON PINE TREE IS, IT IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE.
AND SO, AND SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING AWARENESS, UH, TO, TO THIS ISSUE, COMMISSIONER BOND.
UM, ROB, CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN FORMULA ONE WEEKEND IS, BUT THIS LIST OF DATES, DOES THAT ENCOMPASS? YES.
IT DOES EITHER, BUT I WILL CHECK.
AND IF ALEX SAYS IT DOES, I TRUST THAT WE OBJECT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE IN PERSON AND NONE VIA ZOOM.
WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM? I'LL MOVE IT.
CAN WE SHOW THIS ADOPTED BY ACCLIMATION? YES.
SO, UM, MR. DIRECTOR, CAN WE GET THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK'S CITY COMMISSION MEETING? I BELIEVE THAT, WELL, THERE'S TWO ITEMS. ONE IS A CITY CODE ORDINANCE, AND I WOULD DEFER TO ROB AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD GET A FIRST READING ORDINANCE.
THE OTHER, I BELIEVE THERE ALREADY IS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA, A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE LDR AMENDMENT.
IS THAT, DOES THAT SATISFY THE NEED, THE TIMING MEETS? YES.
THE, THE, THE NON LDR ORDINANCE IS ALREADY ON FOR FIRST READING ON, UH, THE 26TH IN ANTICIPATION OF THE VOTE TODAY.
AND THERE IS A, UH, PLACEHOLDER REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD ALREADY ON THE FEBRUARY 26TH CITY COMMITTEE COMMISSION AGENDA FOR THE LDR AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES WITH THAT, UM, OUT OF CONSIDERATION TO THE TOURISM AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A CONFLICT AND NEEDS TO LEAVE EARLY, I AGREED TO CALL NUMBER FIVE OUT OF ORDER.
IT'S GONNA BE FOLLOWED BY ITEM NUMBER 22, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE AGENDA AS PRINTED.
SO WITH THAT, MR. DIRECTOR, LET'S CALL
[5. DISCUSSION REGARDING FACILITATING POP-UPS FOR LOCAL CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS AND LOCAL START-UPS IN VACANT RETAIL COMMERCIAL SPACES]
UP ITEM NUMBER FIVE.ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING FACILITATING POPUPS FOR LOCAL CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS AND STARTUPS IN VACANT RETAIL COMMERCIAL SPACES.
SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UH, THAT I PLACED ON THE, ON THE AGENDA TO, TOGETHER WITH THE SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER, UM, BO.
UM, BECAUSE IT, WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP FILL SOME OF THE EMPTY SPACES THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN SOME OF OUR MAJOR COMMERCIAL, UH, CORRIDORS.
AND SOMETIMES THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO HAVE TEMPORARY, UH, TENANTS, COMMERCIAL TENANTS OCCUPY THESE SPACES, UH, AND BRING ACTIVITY, UH, INTO THE ROAD AND GIVE, GIVE SMALL BUSINESSES THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST THEIR PRODUCT BEFORE THEY MARRY THEMSELVES TO A LONG-TERM LEASE IN OUR CITY.
AND I WANNA, UH, THANK, UH, LIZETTE ANTE WHO'S WORKED ON THIS ITEM, AND I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO, TO PRESENT.
DEANTE, DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND THANK YOU FOR QUEUING THAT UP SO NICELY.
COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S BEEN DEALING WITH BACON STOREFRONTS, UH, FOR A WHILE.
UH, THEY HAVE DONE SOME, UM, INITIATIVES IN THE PAST.
DURING COVID-19, WE HAD A PROGRAM CALLED OPEN HOUSE, UM, THAT WE INCENTIVIZE LOCAL ARTISTS TO ACTIVATE MAKING STOREFRONTS.
UH, IN THE MEMO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THREE POTENTIAL, UH, INITIATIVES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, WHICH IS REVISITING THE OPEN HOUSE PROGRAM.
UH, TWO IS EXPANDING THE POP-UP PERMIT PROCESS, AND THREE IS LOOKING INTO A MUCH LONGER TERM.
SO I CAN GO INTO WHAT WE FEEL WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A QUICK WIN AT NO COST OR THAT BE GREAT, OR WE CAN GO INTO DETAIL
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT QUICK WINS.
BECAUSE WE LOVE THOSE NO COST SOLUTIONS.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, THE POPUP PERMIT.
AND WHAT THAT IS, IT'S A 90 DAY, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW BUSINESS TO TRY OUT A SPACE IN A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
UH, AND AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN SEE IF THAT'S GONNA BE A VIABLE LOCATION FOR THEM.
AND IF SO, THEN AT THE THREE MONTH MARK, THEY START APPLYING FOR THEIR BTR AND CU.
UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO ENCOURAGE AND INCENTIVIZE, UM, NEW BUSINESSES TO COME, UH, FROM AN ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, IS EXTENDING THAT, EXPANDING THAT POPUP PERMIT FROM THE 90 DAYS TO, UH, NINE MONTHS.
AND AT WHICH TIME, IF THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS A VIABLE LOCATION FOR THEM, THEN THEY CAN, UH, START APPLYING FOR A CU AND EXTEND THEIR BTR FROM NINE MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR A YEAR.
UH, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, THE OTHER THING I WANNA SHARE IS THAT THE POPUP
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PERMIT, UH, REQUIRES AT LEAST 14 DAY NOTICE.AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, ENCOURAGING AGAIN TO BRING, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY COOL POPUP POSSIBLE LIKE RETAIL OR RESTAURANTS.
AND I, I KNOW THAT IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, WE DISCUSSED OF HAVING A SPECIFIC EXPANSION TO THE LINCOLN ROAD AREA FOR RESTAURANT AND BARS.
AND THIS WOULD ONLY WORK FOR VACANT LOCATIONS THAT ARE SECOND GENERATION RESTAURANTS.
SO IF THERE WAS A PREVIOUS RESTAURANT THERE AND A NEW, UH, BUSINESS IS IN INTERESTED IN DOING A POP-UP RESTAURANT, THAT WOULD WORK REALLY EASILY FOR THEM.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT ONCE THE BUSINESSES GET TO EXPERIENCE MIAMI BEACH, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY'LL WANT TO STAY IS PRETTY HIGH.
SO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ROLL OUT THAT RED CARPET FOR THEM.
COMMISSIONER BOT, UM, LIZETTE, THE POPUP VICE MAYOR BOT TANYA IS FINE.
UM, THE POPUP PERMITS ARE ANYWHERE CITYWIDE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BECAUSE IN THE MEMO THERE WAS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS CLS WAS ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE ART DECO MIM O COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OVER, AND THAT'S THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE'RE STILL DOING CLS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND ISS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT IF WE ARE STILL DOING THE CLS, I DUNNO IF HEATHER'S HERE, UM, HI, HEATHER, WITH ALL THE HATS YOU'RE WEARING THESE DAYS.
UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THAT INTO THE NORTH BEACH AREA.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON ARTISTS AND, AND ENTREPRENEURS.
UM, THE CENTRAL FINE GALLERY IN NORMANDY JUST HAD ONE OF THEIR ARTISTS, UM, HAVE A PIECE BOUGHT BY THE GUGGENHEIM.
SO IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ART HAPPENING UP IN NORTH BEACH, AND WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A LOT MORE SO TO HELP INCENTIVIZE AND, UM, ELEVATE ARTISTS HAVING OPPORTUNITY TO SET UP SHOP.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND THE CLS, SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CL LS PROGRAM.
AND, AND, AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL LEASE SUBSIDY PROGRAM IS THAT IT'S THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST LIMITED TO ART.
YOU CAN CONSIDER OTHER, OTHER THINGS.
I THINK WE HAD ON LINCOLN ROAD, WE HAVE, UM, WHAT IS IT, CHURRO STORE, A CHURRO RESTAURANT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN NEW TO THE MARKET, WHICH IS PART OF THE THING THAT THE COMMERCIAL LEASE SUBSIDY PROGRAM DOES IS NEW TO MARKET, UM, BUSINESSES, UH, THAT ARE, ARE BEING INTRODUCED.
SO, SO, SO WE HAVE THIS RO RESTAURANT FROM SPAIN, UH, THAT IS COMING HERE, I THINK IN WASHINGTON AVENUE.
WE HAVE A BREWERY, UH, THAT IS BENEFITING FROM THIS.
I THINK COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ HELPED, UH, HELPED, UH, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
AND SO IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT EARLY ON IN MY TERM, I WAS VERY PROUD TO WORK WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON WAS CREATING THIS, THIS LEAPS UH, SUBSIDY PROGRAM.
SO IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO EXTEND THIS TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY? GOOD AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.
UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO SEEING HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, COLLEAGUES.
UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO SEEING IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN NORTH BEACH, BUT THIS CLS PROGRAM IS REALLY FOR, UM, NONCONFORMING BUSINESSES.
SO IT'S TRYING TO GET THOSE, AND I'M QUOTE, UM, NUISANCE KIND OF OF SERVICES OUT OF THE COMMUNITY TO BRING IN THE ARTS AND BRING IN THE, UM, KIND OF IMMERSIVE TYPE OF BUSINESSES.
BUT WE CAN EXPLORE IF, IF THAT COULD BE DONE IN, IN NORTH BEACH AB ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK, UM, WHEN WE DID THE SORT OF, UM, NON-CONFORMING BUSINESSES FOR SOUTH BEACH AT, AT A SIMILAR TIMEFRAME, THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSIONS OF NORTH BEACH HAVING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN, WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT FIRST.
YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, A GOOD IDEA TO EXPAND THIS TO NORTH BEACH.
JUST THIS MORNING I HAD A MEETING WITH A PROPERTY OWNER, UM, WHO HAS A LOT OF BUSINESSES VACANT STOREFRONTS.
AND, UH, HE HAS THE REQUIRED, UH, PAPERWORK THAT HE HAS, BUT IF IT COULD BE ACTIVATED, THIS IS NEAR HOTELS, THIS IS A TOURIST AREA, UM, TO HAVE SOMETHING WITH ARTISTS IN IT WOULD BE SO SPECIAL UP IN NORTH BEACH.
AND WITH THAT, I JUST, JUST WONDER BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD ALSO BE DOING IS IF, LET'S SAY A BUSINESS PARTICIPATES AS A PILOT PROGRAM, IT ALMOST, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GUIDE THEM, WALK THEM, YOU KNOW, HOLD THEIR HAND A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE POP-UP PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, YOU DO YOUR, YOUR 90 DAYS, YOU GET YOUR EXTENSION.
LET'S SAY YOU APPLY FOR YOUR CONDITIONAL USE AND YOU, YOU GET YOUR 12 MONTHS, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE IN, IN ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN HELP THEM BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL LEASE
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SUBSIDY, LET'S SAY.AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, SO THAT THEY DON'T OPERATE ON THEIR OWN.
THEY KIND OF OPERATE TOGETHER.
IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMMISSIONER, TYPICALLY WITH POPUPS, UM, WE DON'T REALLY GET ENGAGED WITH THEM AS MUCH BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY FOR A MARKETING OF A PRODUCT.
SO IT'S LIKE, OH, WE HAVE LIKE SHINE OR SOMETHING.
YOU HAVE A NEW PRODUCT OR SNEAKERS THAT YOU WANNA PUT OUT.
SO IT'S JUST FOR THREE MONTHS.
BUT IF IT WERE EXTENDED TO 6, 9, 12 MONTHS, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTIVATE OUR CONCIERGE PROGRAM AND TO ACTUALLY WORK HAND IN HAND IN THAT WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE LONG TERM LEASE.
SO WE HAVE THOSE, UM, SKILLS AND TOOLS FOR THEM FOR THAT.
WITH THAT, UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE POPUP? OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
VICE MAYOR, ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE APPROACH THE, THE PODIUM.
IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
JUST, UH, SOME LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT POP-UPS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE DOING A FOOD POPUP, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF HEALTH REGULATIONS AND VENTING AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, THERE'S A TIME ISSUE THERE OF GETTING ALL THOSE APPROVALS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
UH, FOOD INSPECTIONS, GREASE TRAPS, COOKING, YOU KNOW, VENTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO I THINK THAT THE FOOD, UH, THING SHOULD BE A SEPARATE KIND OF POP-UP.
AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, VETTING WHO'S GONNA VET, VET THE QUALITY OF THESE PEOPLE.
ANYBODY COULD COME ALONG AND BE SELLING ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE A VETTING PROCESS BECAUSE WE TRY TO UPGRADE THE RETAIL, NOT DOWNGRADE IT.
AND THE THIRD THING IS THOUGH, LIZETTE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, WELL, THEY CAN GET A BTR LATER.
WELL, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE 90 DAYS? HOW ARE THEY PAYING TAXES? ANYWAY, THOSE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I HAD JUST LOGISTICALLY, I'M NOT AGAINST POPUPS, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF VETTING PROCESS IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OPENING UP OUR RETAIL SPACES.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOWNGRADING THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY SHOULD BE UPGRADING.
AND, UM, LIZ, I KNOW I, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A VETTING MECHANISM IN PLACE, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SURE.
COURSE, SPEAK ABOUT ALSO WHO WOULD QUALIFY, UH, FOR A POPUP? OF COURSE.
CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
UH, AND I THINK THAT HEATHER TOUCHED ON THIS, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN WE EXTENDED AND HAVE THE CONCIERGE PROGRAM, I MEAN, WE CAN MAYBE DO THAT FROM THE END ONSET, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, UH, WE WORK, UH, AND WE HAVE ANNABEL HERE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, FOR LINCOLN ROAD BID, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE BRANDS WILL COME TO LINCOLN ROAD BID.
THEY ALREADY HAVE IDENTIFIED A LOCATION, THEY HAVE A LEASE.
THE LINCOLN ROAD BIG INTRODUCES THEM TO OUR OFFICE.
AND THAT'S HOW WE BEGIN THAT 90 DAY PERMIT PROCESS.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE JUST, ANYONE CAN APPLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT PROCESSES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WAS A, MAYBE FROM THE ONSET, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE EXTENDING IT TO, TO A YEAR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AS FAR AS THE BTR QUESTION THAT JANE HAS, THE POINT OF THE POPUP PERMIT IS TO ENCOURAGE, UH, NEW BUSINESSES.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT WHOLE PERMITTING PROCESS, AND MAYBE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT VIABLE FOR WHAT YOU'RE SELLING, AND SO YOU WASTED SOME TIME.
SO WE ALLOW THEM TO BE THE ACTIVE FOR 90 DAYS, AND THEN THEY KNOW IF IT'S, IT'S A VIABLE LOCATION, THEN THEY START THAT PERMITTING PROCESS.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, COMMISSIONERS STAFF, UH, ANNABELL YPI IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR LINCOLN ROAD.
I WILL SAY FOR LINCOLN ROAD, WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SOME OF THEM COULD BE SHORT TERM, LIKE I SAID, MAYBE THERE'S A PRODUCT LAUNCH, BUT MANY TIMES WE'LL HAVE GALLERIES WHO WILL COME AND WANNA BE THERE MORE THAN THREE MONTHS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS, THEY CAN'T EXTEND.
SO FOR US, IT'S A POSITIVE THING THAT WE CAN OFFER THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BUSINESSES WHO WANNA OPEN UP AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE MARKET AND KNOW IF THEY WANNA STAY FOR A PERMANENT TIME.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BROKERS AND LANDLORDS TO UTILIZE THIS AND REALLY EXPAND ON THE CURRENT PROGRAM.
SO WE FEEL THIS IS A POSITIVE STEP TO, TO CREATING MORE ECONOMIC VIABILITY.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING, SEEING NONE? UM, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, UH, A MOTION, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE THE ACTIVATION DAYS OF THE CURRENT POP-UP PERMITS BY AMENDING THE, UH, RESTRICTION FROM 90 DAYS UP TO A YEAR.
UH, SO THAT, SO THAT BUSINESSES CAN REALLY COME IN, TEST THE MARKET, HOPEFULLY
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FIND THEIR SUCCESS AND MAKE THEIR LONG-TERM COMMITMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.IS THAT, IF THERE'S A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ.
WE CAN SHOW THIS ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT IN THIS AS THIS ITEM MOVES FORWARD, PROMOTION, PROMOTION, PROMOTION, I THINK PROMOTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE SUCCESS OF THIS.
'CAUSE THERE IS A PERCEPTION OUT THERE THAT BUREAUCRACY RED TAPE, UH, MAKES IT HARD TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
AND HERE WE'RE CUTTING THAT RED TAPE.
SO PROMOTION IS KEY IN, IN THIS, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS OUT THERE OR, OR ELSE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIND OUT ABOUT IT, BUT OTHERS WON'T.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, MR. DIRECTOR, LET'S
[22. DISCUSSION REGARDING CONSIDERATION OF A WAIVER OF THE MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT PERMITTED UNDER THE CITY’S PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM, PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION 2023-32614, TO FUND THE WORK NECESSARY TO RAISE THE HISTORIC HOME LOCATED ON 6005 ALTON ROAD.]
CALL UP ITEM NUMBER 22.ITEM NUMBER 22 IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING CONSIDERATION OF A WAIVER OF THE MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT PERMITTED UNDER THE CITY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION 20 23, 30 2,614, TO FUND THE WORK NECESSARY TO RAISE THE HISTORIC HOME LOCATED AT 6,005 ALTON ROAD.
AND THIS IS AN ITEM BEING PRESENTED BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER KRISTEN ROSEN GONZALEZ, UH, WHO IS WALKING INTO THE CHAMBERS.
SO LET'S, I'M GONNA THAT PERFECT TIMING.
SO I'M GONNA ALLOW, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ TO INTRODUCE HER ITEM HAVING TO DO WITH PROPERTY ADAPTATION.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
WE WANTED TO, WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO ASK FEMA ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND APPARENTLY FEMA DENIED.
DO YOU KNOW, I JUST, I WAS GONNA PULL THE ITEM, BUT I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHY, IF THEY HAVE THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, ADAPTATION PROGRAM, WHY THEY DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK TO US.
AMY MILLS, UH, CHIEF RESILIENCE OFFICER.
UM, AND SO YES, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT OVERSEES THESE PROGRAMS AND THEY JUST WERE NOT AVAILABLE.
UM, THEY'RE RUNNING A NEW PROGRAM CALLED ELEVATE FLORIDA, WHICH IS A, A NEW STATE PROGRAM TO HELP, UH, RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, AND THEY'RE IN THAT APPLICATION PERIOD.
SO THEY, UH, THE CHIEF JUST SAID THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE.
WHAT ABOUT, BUT WE DID REACH OUT A FEW TIMES YEAH.
WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR? WOULD YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DEFER THIS ITEM.
AND, UM, COULD YOU PLEASE SEND US THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE'RE GONNA REACH OUT FROM OUR OFFICE AND I MADE A MISTAKE.
IT'S NOT, UM, THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, IT'S, HI, I GUESS IT'S THE FLORIDA EMERGENCY.
WHAT IS IT FOR DEPARTMENT? IT'S THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND THEY ARE THE PASS THROUGH FOR THE FEDERAL, UH, FEMA, FMA PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A STATE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE ADMINISTERING.
UM, BUT I PERSONALLY REACHED OUT AS WELL AS OUR GRANTS DIRECTOR AS WELL.
WOULD IT BE OKAY WITH YOU GUYS TO DEFER THIS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT? THERE'S A MOTION.
MOTION TO DEFER, AND I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ.
UM, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE, PREFER IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER WITHDRAWING THE ITEM.
I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH A PROPERTY OWNER, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AMY NONER, HER GROUP TAKING MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM IS NOT AN OPTION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS WAS MEANT FOR.
BUT ELEVATE FLORIDA IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND SHE WAS SUPER EXCITED.
SHE TEXTED ME BACK, LIKE, YES.
UM, WELL, THAT'S WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO LEAVE IT ON SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION SURROUNDING, UM, THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE ADAPTATION PROGRAM, BUT I DO WANT TO SPEAK, I WANT THEM TO COME FORWARD AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT OUR PROGRAM IS.
I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SPEAK TO US.
SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I JUST WANNA REACH OUT TO THEIR OFFICE SO THAT I CAN KEEP IT ON HERE.
AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION.
WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM.
SHOULD WE RENAME THE ITEM THEN? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO, THEN CAN WE, UH, WITHDRAW IT AND PUT IN SOMETHING FRESH SO THAT IT'S ADDRESSING THE APPROPRIATE ITEM AND NOT THE PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION? WELL, THEN I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, I MEAN, CAN I CHANGE THAT NAME? NICK
I THINK THE COMMITTEE COULD DECIDE TODAY, UH, BY ACCLIMATION THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PURSUE WAIVING THE CAP.
UM, BUT YOU COULD DECIDE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A COMMITTEE'S PREROGATIVE TO DISCUSS IT.
SO I'LL MAKE THE, SO I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
COMMITTEE COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE UNDERLYING ISSUE OF THE CAP, SO, MM-HMM.
SO, SO IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO
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MAKE A MOTION DENYING, UM, WAIVING THE MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT, UM, FOR, FOR PROPERTY ADAPTATION, WE CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.UH, AND THEN WE CAN DEFER THE REST OF THE ITEMS SO THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, UH, ITEM.
SO WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE STAKE DOLLARS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE.
AND, UH, TO MAKE THAT MOTION, I ALSO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR IS I WANNA HELP THIS PROPERTY OWNER.
SO, UM, BUT THERE'S FEDERAL FUNDING OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP, AND I DO WANNA CONTINUE TO HELP THIS OWNER.
SO THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ TO DENY WAIVING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE GRANT, SECONDED BY THE CHAIR.
CAN WE, SHALL THAT ADOPTED BY ACCLIMATION? YEAH.
UH, THEN THERE IS A MOTION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ FOR DEFERRAL CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER BOB, YOU, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
BUT, UM, WHEN IT COMES BACK, WHENEVER IT IS IN APRIL OR MAY, AND IF, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THE FLORIDA DEM PEOPLE OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES, UM, TO COME, OR EVEN IF THEY DON'T, CAN YOU GUYS BE PREPARED TO, UM, PRESENT WHAT THE STATE PROGRAM IS AND WHAT THE, IF THERE ARE NATIONAL GRANTS MM-HMM
IF, IF WE CAN'T GET THE ACTUAL REPRESENTATIVES SO THAT WE CAN JUMP ONTO THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PROMOTE IN THE CITY, NOT JUST FOR A SINGLE PERSON, BUT FOR ANYBODY LIVING IN PRE 1942 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A FALSE NARRATIVE FOR YEARS.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS JUST A BABY ACTIVIST OF, OH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE KNOW PEOPLE WHO LITERALLY GOT 20 PEOPLE AND A BUNCH OF JACKS FROM, FROM HOME DEPOT AND SOMEBODY WHO KNEW HOW TO DO IT AND SUCCESSFULLY ELEVATED THEIR PROPERTY.
SO WHETHER IT'S THIS OFFICIAL PERSON COMING IN FROM THE STATE, OR IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, FIND ME THAT THAT PERSON WON'T COME, YOU GUYS COME BACK AND REALLY ILLUMINATE WHAT'S AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN THROW OUR COLLECTIVE MUNICIPAL WEIGHT BEHIND THIS AND ENABLE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SO THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL.
ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE ON? SEEING NOT IN PERSON, NOT IN ZOOM.
COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ BEFORE WE DEFER.
YEAH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE WERE INVITING THIS PERSON IN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED TO DO TO APPLY FOR THIS STATE PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE PASS THROUGH TO THE FEDERAL PROGRAM AND HOW EVERYTHING TIES IN TOGETHER.
SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOTT, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL IN REACHING OUT FOR SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION.
AND IF NOT, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO PRESENT, BUT I WOULD REALLY THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO COME.
MAYBE YOU WANNA SPEAK TO PETER, WHO'S UP IN TALLAHASSEE THIS ENTIRE TIME, AND ASK HIM TO ACTUALLY GO AND VISIT THAT PERSON AND INVITE THEM PERSONALLY.
OR THROW THEM INTO HIS TRUNK FOR WHEN YEAH,
AND, AND ALSO JUST NOTE, WE DID HIGHLIGHT THIS PROGRAM THROUGH A PRESS RELEASE.
WE HIGHLIGHTED IT THROUGH AN LTC.
IT'S IN OUR CITY NEWSLETTERS, AND WE HAVE, UM, BEEN SENDING OUT, UH, SPECIAL DEDICATED EMAILS AS WELL.
SO WE'RE ALREADY GETTING THE WORD OUT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ FOR, FOR JOINING US.
WITH THAT, MR. DIRECTOR, LET'S PROCEED WITH THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER
[1. BI-MONTHLY UPDATE ON CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND THE STATUS OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASES, INVOLVING PROPERTIES AND/OR BUSINESSES LOCATED IN NORTH BEACH AND TO ADDRESS ANY ONGOING CONCERNS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH BEACH]
ONE.ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A BIMONTHLY UPDATE ON CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES AND THE STATUS OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASES INVOLVING PROPERTIES AND OR BUSINESSES LOCATED IN NORTH BEACH.
AND TO ADDRESS ANY ONGOING CONCERNS IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH BEACH.
UM, AND I WANT TO THANK, UM, THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT IN HERNAN CARD, OUR, OUR DIRECTOR FOR THEIR WORK IN ADDRESSING VIOLATIONS ACROSS NORTH BEACH.
I THINK THIS REPORT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WE HAVE PERSISTENT CHALLENGES, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY NEGLECT, SANITATION CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, IN THIS PART OF THE CITY, UH, AS THE COMMISSIONER WHO INITIATED THE REQUEST FOR THESE, UH, FOR, FOR THESE, UH, BIMONTHLY UPDATES ON CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TRACKING THESE ISSUES, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY IMPROVING CONDITIONS, UH, FOR OUR NORTH BEACH STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND RESIDENTS.
I THINK THE DATA SHOWS A SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG OF CASES.
I THINK WE SEE REPEAT OFFENDERS, UM, AND PROPERTIES THAT REMAIN IN DIS DISREPAIR DESPITE MULTIPLE CITATIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT THE, THE GOAL OF THIS DISCUSSION AND THESE REGULAR UPDATES, UH, TO BE, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING, WHAT ADDITIONAL TOOLS AND STRATEGIES WE NEED TO TURN THINGS AROUND.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, HERNAN CARINO CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.
SO YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING, UH, BIWEEKLY, UH, UPDATES, UH, VIA LETTER TO COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE AN APPEARANCE HERE AT THIS COMMITTEE, UM, BIMONTHLY.
UM, SO AS YOU TOUCHED ON, UH, MR. CHAIR, THIS WAS ACTUALLY, UM, PROMULGATED BY, UH, SPONSORED BY YOU AT, AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AND ADOPTED BY THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION.
UM, AND SO OUR STRATEGY EFFORTS, OF COURSE, UH, INCLUDE,
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UH, EDUCATION, PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, CORRECTIVE ACTION, UM, AND OF COURSE PENALTIES FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT COMPLY.UH, JUST AS WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, WE DISCUSSED BRIEFLY LAST TIME THAT WE HAVE SIX CODE OFFICERS, NEIGHBORHOOD CODE OFFICERS ASSIGNED THERE ALONG WITH ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CODE SUPERVISOR.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE OUTREACH WE'VE DONE, UH, COMMISSIONER BOT, WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF, UH, WALKS WITH, UH, DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES FROM THE CITY, UM, ALONG THE COLLINS AVENUE CORRIDOR TO IDENTIFY AT LEAST TWICE NORM TO IDENTIFY SOME ISSUES THERE.
UM, AND JUST TO ADD, UH, AND DRAFT, WE DID NORMANDY TOO.
SAY AGAIN? WE DID NORMANDY 71ST AND, AND NORMANDY AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, JUST TO ADD TO THE, UH, BIWEEKLY REPORT THAT ACTUALLY INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SUMMARIES OF ALL THE VIOLATIONS AND WHAT'S AT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IT ALSO INCLUDES PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
AND, UH, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASES.
UM, SO LET ME ASK YOU, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AT THIS REPORT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEE IS A HIGH VOLUME OF UNRESOLVED VIOLATIONS, UM, IN 2024, YOU KNOW, AS, AS PER, YOU KNOW, THE LATEST REPORT, I THINK THERE WERE 472 VIOLATIONS, UH, ISSUED, UM, IN NORTH BEACH IN 2024.
FROM WHAT I SAW, THERE WERE ABOUT THREE OVER, OVER 300 THAT REMAINED IN THE PROCESS, AWAITING EITHER REINSPECTION, UM, INDICATING SOME SORT OF BACKLOG.
THEY'RE STILL SOMEWHERE IN, IN THE PROCESS, WHICH IS CONCERNING 'CAUSE YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE WORK.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING OUT THERE AND ISSUING THESE, THESE VIOLATIONS AND THESE VIOLATIONS INDICATE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU IDENTIFY 400, OVER 400, NEARLY 500 VIOLATIONS AND ONLY 45 RESULTED IN ADJUDICATION, AND 28 ARE UNDER APPEAL, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE OVER 300 VIOLATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE SOMEWHERE IN, IN, IN THE PROCESS.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT IS DRIVING THESE DELAYS? WHAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THE OUTCOME AND THE RESULTS THAT WE NEED HERE? RIGHT.
AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE SAME TO TURN THE CORNER THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE WHERE WE ACTUALLY KEEP THE CASE OPEN FOR AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 12 MONTHS, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT RELATES TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS ONLY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PERFECT A DUE PROCESS AND SERVICE OF DOCUMENTS ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND IF THE PROPERTY FALLS IN DISREPAIR AGAIN, THEN THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION WITH OUR VENDORS AND THEN LIEN THAT PROPERTY FOR THEIR HARD DOLLAR COST.
HOW MANY PROPERTIES? THAT'S A PERCENTAGE.
I MEAN, SO WE CAN LIEN A PROPERTY.
HOW MANY PROPERTIES DO WE HAVE UNDER LIEN? I HAVE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE THING IS LIKE, OKAY, IT'S, IT FEELS LIKE IT ALMOST BECOMES JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
WE LIEN, BUT THEN NOTHING HAPPENS.
YOU KNOW, THE VIOLATION PERSISTS, THE PROBLEMS PERSISTS, UM, SURE.
AND THERE'S BEEN SOME HIGHER PROFILE ONES THAT, THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THERE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES THIS WAY THAT ARE JUST RUNNING DAILY FINES, UH, FOR NINE COMPLIANCE, WHICH EVENTUALLY TURNED INTO LIENS ALSO.
THE, THE PROBLEM WITH LIENS, IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THAT ASSUMES THAT THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS.
AND SO FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S JUST A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY IS CHUMP CHANGE FOR THEM.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS AND THERE'S NO LEVER, THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO FORCE THEM TO COMPLY.
AND HOW DO WE FIX THAT? I MEAN, NICK, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL, THAT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MISSING PIECES.
LIKE, 'CAUSE WE SEE CODE OUT THERE AND CERTAINLY ON THE WALKS GOING FOR TWO BLOCKS AT A TIME IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY, UM, WE WRITE UP DOZENS OF VIOLATIONS OR DIRECTLY SPEAK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR TENANT OR WHATEVER TO ADDRESS THINGS ON THE SPOT.
BUT THERE'S THIS LIKE BLACK HOLE THAT THINGS FALL INTO.
AND SO WHAT CAN WE DO AS A CITY? UM, AND, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL IS THAT WE HAVE INEFFECTIVE DETERMINANCE MEASURES.
YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE IMPOSING THE FINES, UH, BUT THEIR EFFECTIVENESS AND COMPELLING COMPLIANCE IS QUESTIONABLE.
UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE COMPLIANCE.
YOU PUT THE LIENS AND THE LIENS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LIEN ACCUMULATION IS NOTED VERY WELL IN, IN, IN THE MEMO, BUT DOES THE CITY ENFORCE THEM TO RECOVER? YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OUR COSTS, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FEW CASES ARE ACTUALLY REACHING THE POINT OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ADJUDICATION AND THEN EVEN FEWER RESULT IN COMPLIANCE.
SO SOMETHING IS BROKEN, SOMETHING IS REALLY BROKEN, AND IT'S NOT SERVING THE RESIDENT OF NORTH BEACH.
WELL, NICK, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THAT THE CITY, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, CODE LIENS ROUTINELY ARE SATISFIED AS PART OF, UH, SETTLEMENT
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AGREEMENTS OF, OF PENDING CODE MATTERS.UM, AND THE SECOND IS THAT IF AND WHEN A PROPERTY EVER CHANGES HANDS, YOU KNOW, IF A PROPERTY SELLS OR TRANSFERS FOR SOME OTHER REASON, UM, THAT IS OUR, THAT IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT AND WE DO COLLECT AT THAT TIME.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THAT'S AN IF AND WHEN THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS, AND BY THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SPENT WHATEVER, IT'S FIVE YEARS LOOKING AT AN EYESORE.
I MEAN, WOULDN'T WE ALL RATHER AS A CITY NOT HAVE WHATEVER THE, THE LIENS WERE THAT THE, THE, THE MORELLO'S FINALLY PAID OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PAYING OF 5 MILLION OR $8 MILLION AND STILL HAVE HAD THE BUILDING? THEY HAVEN'T PAID THAT.
WELL, I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING I'D, I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH STEVE, BUT I KNOW WELL, OR LIKE GETTING IT DONE, NOT NEGOTIATING, BUT GETTING IT DONE.
SO, UM, BUT MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LEVER TO FORCE THEM TO FIX THEIR BUILDING AND NOW WE ARE DOWN ONE IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING, RIGHT? YEP.
SO THE LIENS, THEY'RE NOT HIGH ENOUGH.
THEY DON'T, PROPERTY DOESN'T CHANGE, CHANGE HANDS OFF ENOUGH TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT.
IT DOESN'T COMPEL THE OWNERS IN MOST CASES TO DO ANYTHING TO CORRECT THE ITEM OR ITEMS UPON WHICH THEY'VE BEEN VIOLATED.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE IT, THE GOAL IS NOT TO MAKE IT PUNITIVE.
THE GOAL IS TO ENFORCE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO DO ANYTHING INSANE.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SEE ELEPHANTS ON THE ROOF WITH PURPLE SPOTS ON THEM.
WE JUST WANT THE ROOF TO NOT DRIP ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, RIGHT? WE JUST WANT YOU TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, A GOOD TENANT, A GOOD PROPERTY OWNER, AND COMPEL, UM, AND, AND, UM, COMPLY WITH THE LAWS OF THE CITY JUST THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS BLOCK DOES.
AND SO THAT'S THE MISSING LINK OF, AND THE REALITY IS THAT IN A MARKET LIKE MIAMI BEACH, YOU KNOW, SUCH AN EXPENSIVE MARK MARKET, SUCH A PREMIER, UH, MARKET LIKE, LIKE OURS, THOSE LINKS, WE ALL KNOW, IT STILL ENDS UP BEING THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR, FOR THIS PROPERTY OWNER.
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING A GOLDEN PARACHUTE AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THEY'RE ENGAGING IN THESE SALE TRANSACTIONS.
AND SO, AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF, OF THE CHALLENGE HERE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT IS ZONING MORATORIUMS FOR, FOR, UM, HABITUAL OFFENDERS OF OUR CODE.
IF YOU ARE A BAD PROPERTY OWNER, IF YOU ARE A NEGLIGENT PROPERTY OWNER, IF YOU DISRESPECT OUR CODE, YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME AND ASK FOR THE CITY TO GET ZONING RIGHTS OR BENEFIT FROM INCENTIVES THAT YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO OTHERWISE.
AND I, AND I REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S WHEN THE MESSAGE WILL START TO RESONATE.
IF YOU WANNA BENEFIT FROM INCENTIVES IN OUR CODES, IF YOU WANNA BENEFIT FROM, UH, FROM ZONING REQUESTS, FINE.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A GOOD PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU CAN'T BE AN HABITUAL OFFENDER OF OUR CODE OTHER, OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY'S DESIRE TO SEE A CITY THAT'S CLEANER, THAT'S SAFER, THAT'S BETTER AN APPEARANCE THAT HAS ENHANCED SANITATION AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS.
AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THAT THEY'LL SAY, I'LL JUST ABANDON MY PROPERTY BECAUSE THEN I'LL, THE CITY WILL BE SO DESPERATE TO SEE THAT THE CONDITIONS BE IMPROVED, THAT I'LL GO IN, I'LL ASK FOR MORE HIDE, I'LL ASK FOR SETBACK WAIVERS, I'LL ASK FOR USES THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO, TO DO AS THE INCENTIVE TO THE CITY TO GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.
SO I'LL JUST ABANDON MY PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THE CITY WILL BE DESPERATE TO GIVE ME WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, UH, TO, TO, TO IMPROVE.
AND I, I'M GETTING TO THE POINT THAT THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT I SEE US GOING FORWARD IN, IN ADDRESSING THIS BECAUSE THE FINES ARE NOT WORKING, THE VIOLATIONS ARE NOT WORKING, THE LIENS ARE NOT WORKING.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I CAN SEE US DO IS PUT A HOLD ON ANYTHING THAT CAN ADD VALUE TO, TO, TO THEIR PROPERTY.
SO I, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WILL ADDRESS A PORTION OF THE ISSUES.
THERE IS, UM, ONE OF THE MANY, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT IS STARTING IN NORTH BEACH, ONE OF THE MANY OVER DEVELOPMENTS STARTING IN NORTH BEACH.
UM, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPER IS, BUT IT'S A, A, A FREQUENT DEVELOPER IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
AND, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I WOULD TALK TO TOM ALL THE TIME, LIKE, THAT DAMN FENCE IS A NIGHTMARE.
AND IT WAS SUCH A SIMPLE THING TO TRY TO KEEP THEIR CONSTRUCTION FENCE NOT LOOKING LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A VICTIM OF A HURRICANE.
AND NOW IT'S FINALLY IT'S BEEN FIXED OR SOMETHING.
BUT THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO, I MEAN, EASILY 10, 10 PHONE CALLS OR
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10 INCIDENTS AT, AT A MINIMUM.AND SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT PERSON, WHOEVER IT IS, UM, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SORRY, WE'RE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO YOU ASKING FOR SOME SPECIAL FAVORS, BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS, AND HERE'S, HERE'S ALMOST WHAT IS THE BIGGER ISSUE, IS THE INDIVIDUAL RETAIL OR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE SMALLER SCALE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, DON'T CARE, DON'T EVER GET THE MESSAGE.
THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE AS WELL.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE MASSIVE OUTREACH, BUT, UM, SOMEHOW THERE'S THIS, THIS, THIS DISCONNECT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE FROM ONE BLOCK TO THE NEXT, UM, SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL CITY, WHICH WE ARE, AND ON THE VERY NEXT CORNER.
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO SAO PAULO IN THE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES, IT LOOKS LIKE SAO PAULO IN THE EARLY, IN THE LATE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES, WHICH IS NOT GREAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A DEVELOPING COUNTRY AND WE'RE NOT, AND THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR OUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T CARE OR THEY'RE NOT BEING PRESSURED INTO COMPLYING WITH THE LAW.
SO I, I DO LIKE THAT IDEA FOR BIGGER ISSUES.
I DON'T THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE SMALLER ISSUES.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DA ON THIS ITEM? UH, COMMISSIONER WILSON GONZALEZ, WHY DON'T YOU JUST RAISE THE FINES? WE'RE LIMITED BY THE STATE, I THINK TO 5,000 A DAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE, WE'RE LIMITED UNDER STATE LAW.
FIRST VIOLATION CAN BE NO MORE THAN THAN 1000.
AND FOR A REPEATED VIOLATION, IT'S, IT'S NO MORE THAN 5,000.
I MEAN, JUST, I MEAN, HER END, IN YOUR OPINION, HOW DO WE COLLECT AND GET THE, YOU KNOW, AND STOP WE USED TO, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ STOPPED THE CONTINUANCES RIGHT AT THE SPECIAL MASTER.
I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE ZONING, BY THE WAY.
I, I I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF.
IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS COMING TO US AND SEEKING ZONING RELIEF AND THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING REPEAT OFFENDERS, THEY NEED TO FEEL THE REAL CONSEQUENCE.
AND THE REAL CONSEQUENCE IS IF WE GET IN THE WAY OF THE, OF THE, OF THE INCREMENT OF THEIR PROFIT THAT THEY WERE, THAT THEY WILL MAKE THROUGH THE ZONING RELIEF THAT THEY'RE SEEKING FROM US, THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN REALITY WILL SET.
'CAUSE I REALLY DO THINK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE JUST, SOME PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PURPOSEFULLY NEGLECTING THEIR PROPERTIES TO MAKE THE CITY DESPERATE SO MUCH FOR CHANGE THAT THE CITY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THEN WILLING TO CONTEMPLATE, UH, THE ZONING RELIEF THAT THEY, THAT THEY SEEK.
AND WE NEED TO, I THINK, PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND SAY, NO, MA, OKAY.
UM, I AGREE AND I'D BE SUPPORTIVE IF YOU WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT WILL MOVE THE NEEDLE.
UM, EVEN POSSIBLY ON, ON THE SMALLEST ONES.
IF PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOSE, UH, ZONING RIGHTS IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT LEGALLY, AND I'M NOT SURE WE ARE.
UM, HERNAN, WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT COMPLYING? I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE GIVING OUT THESE VIOLATIONS AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING? IT'S A MIXED BAG.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE FIND RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY, UH, MANAGERS THAT DO TAKE CORRECT CORRECTION AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER TIMES WE CAN'T FIND ANYONE.
AND SO WE JUST GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS OF DOCUMENTING AND LEANING THESE PROPERTIES.
BUT, UH, SOME DO COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, ALSO IT'S, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, CHANGING HANDS, BUT UH, ALSO ON REFINANCING, THEY COME UP AND THEY HAVE TO CLEAR THESE LIENS.
UM, AND THAT'S HAPPENED A FEW TIMES.
I, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THE REPEAT VIOLATORS, UM, THAT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE OUR OFFICIAL OFFENDERS.
WHAT'S THAT? WE CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO FINITE TO, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, START A LIST OF THIS.
I THINK THIS LIST NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED.
I THINK THIS LIST NEEDS TO BE CIRCULATED TO US.
I THINK THE CITY COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE SO THAT WHEN THEY KNOCK ON OUR DOOR AND THEY ASK US TO CONSIDER US TO USE OUR LEGISLATIVE PREROGATIVE TO HELP THEM, THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE THEIR PREROGATIVE AS PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR CITY'S, UH, CODES.
NICK, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IF, IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT THE, THE RECORD TO REFLECT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, WITH, WITH YOU ON LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS REFERRED BY THE CITY COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 3RD TO THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD ADDRESS, UH, REQUEST FOR ZONING RELIEF BY HABITUAL CODE VIOLATORS.
THE ZONING MORATORIUM THAT I'M, THAT I'M SEEKING TO DO THE RESTRICTIONS ON, UH, ON APPLICATIONS BY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE REPEAT CODE VIOLATIONS.
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THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDING IN PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO AGREE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.I SEE ELIZABETH LATON ATTENDING VIA ZOOM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR THIS ITEM.
AND IT'S ONE THAT, UH, YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN REALIZE, OR IF YOU DO, YOU HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED IT.
AND THAT'S FORECLOSURE PROCEEDINGS.
ONCE, UM, YOU'VE LEANED A PROPERTY, YOU HAVE NON-COMPLIANT, UH, OFFENDERS.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY HASN'T TAKEN THAT, UH, STEP IN STARTING FORECLOSURE PROCEEDINGS.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK IF THE CITY FINDS ITSELF FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, UM, VIOLATIONS.
UH, OUR ALLEYWAYS IN NORTH BEACH, OUR, OUR, UH, NORTH, UH, WEST LOTS, UM, THE GRASS CUTTING, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, I I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS NOT, IS, UH, LISTEN, THERE'S A WAY AND IT'S FORECLOSURE.
YOU JUST START THE PROCEEDINGS AND THAT IS A HAMMER THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND IT HASN'T BEEN USED.
WE USE IT IN PROPERTIES ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE USE IT IN CONDOS WHO DON'T PAY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FEES.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY STRONG MESSAGE.
AND I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THIS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S A MESS.
AND IT, COMMISSIONER BOTS WRIGHT IT, ONE
SAME THING WITH THE SIDEWALKS, ALL OF IT.
SO I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO START WITH OUR OWN BACKYARD.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE COMMISSIONERS LOOKING HEALTHY ON THE DAIS.
I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE FLU RECENTLY, SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOUR SMILING FACES AND, UH, LOOK HEALTHY.
UM, RELATED TO THIS ITEM, UH, MR. CENO, I, I BELIEVE THERE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS RIGHT NOW ON THE OCEAN RESCUE, UH, TEMPORARY INSTALLATION ON THE WEST LOTS.
WE HAVE RUSTING OBJECTS ATTACHED TO THE FENCES.
WE HAVE, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK INSIDE THAT INSTALLATION YOU.
I BELIEVE YOU'LL FIND MORE CODE VIOLATIONS.
I BELIEVE MS. LATTON CAN VERIFY THAT WE INSPECTED THE SITE TOGETHER.
HAVE YOU EVER CITED OCEAN RESCUE? HAVE YOU EVER CITED THE CITY MANAGER FOR NOT MAINTAINING THAT INSTALLATION THERE? UM, SO HAVE YOU CITED THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE WEST LOT THAT USED TO CONTAIN THE LOG CABIN? IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS THERE.
THE DUMPING OF, OF BROKEN CARS AND, AND DEBRIS PILED UP BY CONTAINERS.
UM, SO HAVE YOU DONE YOUR WORK IN, IN INVESTIGATING YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION? PLEASE, PLEASE ANSWER THIS.
I WE NEED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE ON THE JOB HERE OR NOT UP IN THE WEST LOTS BECAUSE IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.
NEXT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO INSTITUTE A BOUNTY SYSTEM WHERE IF A PRIVATE CITIZENS REPORTS A CODE VIOLATION, THAT THEY GET AN INCENTIVE TO DO THAT? IS THERE A WAY TO INCREASE THE REPORTING OF VIOLATIONS SO THAT YOU COME OUT AND LOOK AT THEM? BECAUSE I, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT PROACTIVE.
I KNOW YOU DON'T PATROL AND YOU PROBABLY CLAIM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND DON'T GET ENOUGH FUNDING BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY TAPPING INTO OUR CRA TO DO TO TO DO, UH, FUNDING FOR RESOURCES IN NORTH BEACH.
WE'D RATHER USE THE CRA MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THAT LAST A LIFETIME AND NOT JUST TEMPORARY LABOR COSTS.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANNA, IT MAY SOUND TRIVIAL, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH MY NEIGHBOR, THE WINTER HAVEN HOTEL.
IT'S ALBERT ANIS, UH, CROWDS OF PEOPLE STAND IN FRONT OF IT.
IT'S ONE OF OUR BEST PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE IN MIAMI BEACH.
I, I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS AND I STARE AT BLACK GOO OOZING OFF THEIR ROOF THROUGH THOSE LITTLE SQUARES.
AND I HAD BEEN COMPLAINING, CALLING CODE, UH, GOING ON THE MIAMI BEACH APP AND COMPLAINING FOR OVER FOUR YEARS.
IT BUILDING WENT TWICE THROUGH A COMPLETE RENOVATION AND A GUT RENOVATION LAST YEAR.
NEW OWNER NOW FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
AND, UH, FINALLY CODE CAME OUT IN NOVEMBER, GAVE HIM A VIOLATION FOR PIGEON DROPPINGS, AND THEY DETERMINED THE BLACK GOO WAS MOLE.
AND NOW WE HEAR WE ARE IN FEBRUARY.
UH, CODE TELLS ME, WELL, IT'S GONNA GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
SO I SAID, WELL, WHEN, WELL, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
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SO THIS IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.I STARE AT IT EVERY DAY AND IT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE THERE FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OFFICE.
SO THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF ONE MINOR TRIVIAL THING.
IF YOU CAN'T GET THAT DONE, YOU KNOW IT, IT'S A PROBLEM.
THE WHOLE PROCESS IS DYSFUNCTIONAL.
YOU GIVE PEOPLE TOO MUCH TIME TO, OH, WE HAVE TO GET THREE ESTIMATES, ALL THIS GARBAGE.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET A GUY UP THERE WITH A MOP AND CLEAN THE ROOF.
AND THIS IS AFTER THEY PAINTED, IT'S STILL THERE.
THEY, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS DYSFUNCTIONAL CODE SYSTEM AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IT IS A REVOLVING DOOR THAT YOU, YOU GIVE THESE GUYS TOO MUCH TIME.
YOU NEED TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THEM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, I, I'VE CHASED A COUPLE ISSUES THROUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCESS AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF THE SPEC STAFF WOULD SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OFTEN VACATES ALL FEES ONCE THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED.
UH, AND LIKE THE PREVIOUS CALLER MENTIONED, THEY ALSO GIVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME, OFTEN SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR OR MORE, TO RESOLVE VERY SIMPLE PROBLEMS. UM, THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HAD ANY SUCCESS CHASING ISSUES THROUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCESS.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT HAS STARTED TO DRIVE SOME COMPLIANCE IS WORKING WITH THE STAFF AT LAND USE BOARDS AND WITH THE STAFF THAT, UH, GRANT PERMITS AND, UM, TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT ADDING CONDITIONS ON APPROVALS AND ON PERMIT ISSUES TO GET THE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE BEFORE THOSE ARE GIVEN.
SO I JUST AGREE WITH THE, UM, THE GREATER CONSEQUENCES AND ALSO AGREE WITH OTHER CALLERS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCESS IS ENTIRELY BROKEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SAYING NONE IN PERSON.
ASSUMING A CLOSE CLOSEUP PUBLIC COMMENT TO, TO BE HEARD.
UH, BEFORE WE GO TO COMMISSIONER BOT, JUST WANNA MAKE A, A COUPLE OF POINTS.
NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS, UH, COMMITTEE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION URGING THE ADMINISTRATION, UH, THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL ITS PROPERTIES.
IF OUR PROPERTIES AND IF OUR ASSETS HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS, THOSE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF.
IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE EVENTUALLY GETS A VIOLATION.
I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED VIOLATIONS IN MY OWN HOUSE OVER A HEDGE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
SO LET'S IDENTIFY IT, LET'S FIX IT.
BECAUSE IF WE EXPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COMPLY, WE NEED TO COMPLY OURSELVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE OTHER POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT LARRY MENTIONED ON THE BALANCES, WE HAVE THE, WE KNOW THE VIOLATIONS, THE PROBLEMS, THE PROBLEM IS GETTING COMPLIANCE.
OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE DOING ENFORCEMENT.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE ENFORCEMENT.
THE PROBLEM IS THE COMPLIANCE.
WHICH LEADS ME TO THE ISSUE OF THE TIME THAT WE GIVE INDIVIDUALS FOR COMPLIANCE.
SOMETIMES WE GIVE INDIVIDUALS TIME TO COMPLY BEFORE THE VIOLATION REALLY KICKS IN.
AND MAYBE WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT.
MAYBE WE CAN'T BE GIVING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY AN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE WHEN WE SAY THE PROBLEMS ARE SO SERIOUS THAT WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PERIOD THAT WE HAVE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, COME MORE, MORE, MORE HEAVY HANDED COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ.
THAT'S FINE, I THINK ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD, YOU KNOW, OLD HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE GET THOSE VIOLATIONS.
AND I THINK THE REASON THAT THE SPECIAL MASTER WAIVES THOSE FINES, 'CAUSE SHE REALIZED THAT NUMBER ONE, THESE SMALLER ASSOCIATIONS CANNOT PAY THE FINES.
AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, ARE I, I THINK OUR SPECIAL MASTER TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVING, THERE HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM FOR RESIDENTS THAN COMMERCIAL.
RIGHT? I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT NICK IS SMIRKING, LIKE EVERYBODY HAS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY.
BUT ONE THING, BUT IT'S TRUE, BUT ARE TWO SETS OF CIRCUMSTANCES THING.
BUT ONE THING, HOMESTEAD RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEADED AND CONDOS AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TREAT, BECAUSE WE KNOW, WE KNOW VERY WELL WE HAVE SLUMLORDS IN OUR CITY WHO, WHO DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY, WHO ARE CHARGING OUR RESIDENTS ON FIXED INCOMES AND IN DECENT AMOUNT OF RENT.
AND YET THEY'RE NOT INVESTING A SINGLE PENNY BACK INTO THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO, SO THAT WOULD FALL UNDER COMMERCIAL.
AND I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ADD IN, IT'S NOT JUST, UM, THE SLUMLORD RENTAL APARTMENTS, OF
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WHICH THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY, BUT I WAS, UM, TOURING FLAMINGO PARK TODAY WITH RESIDENTS AND, AND ONE PERSON WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE CONDO ASSOCIATION WHO WOULDN'T RESPOND TO HER ISSUES ABOUT, UM, UNPERMITTED REPAIRS ABOVE HER LEADING TO LEAKY BROWN WATER IN HER KITCHEN.AND, YOU KNOW, SO, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, BAILIWICK.
BUT, UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE THAT THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HOLD THE MULTIFAMILY HOMES RESPONSIBLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY NICK OF BIFURCATING SORT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL ISSUES WHERE LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW I CAN FIX IT.
AND THEN YOU WEIGH THE FEE MAYBE.
UM, BUT COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES, UM, AND, AND THE MULTIFAMILY HOMES, WHETHER IT'S A CONDO OR A RENTAL APARTMENT WITH A, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A DECENT LANDLORD OR EVEN A CONDO, UM, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT FOR THE COMMISSION TO GIVE GENERAL DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS FAR AS PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY OR TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU WANT, UM, WHERE YOU WANT, UH, UH, RESOURCES TO BE FOCUSED.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE.
SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UH, TO, TO, TO NEXT MONTH.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS TO GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION, BUT MR. ATTORNEY GUIDE US PROPERLY, THE ISSUE OF CITY PROPERTIES NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE CODE.
I THINK IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THAT, WE NEED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR PROPERTIES.
I THINK I WANT TO SEE A LIST OF REPEAT VIOLATORS.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD KNOW WHO THOSE, WHO THOSE ARE.
AND, UM, AND I LIKE, UH, FOR, FOR, FOR OUR STAFF TO, TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OTHER STRONGER DETERRENTS WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY TO MAKE VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
MR. CHAIR, YOU COULD MAKE THAT THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE COULD MAKE THAT AS A, AS A MOTION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO TRANSMIT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER BOB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? SO MOVED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BOT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSIONS ON THE ITEM BEFORE US COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ.
AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE ITEM.
I JUST NEVER GOT CLARIFICATION FROM NICK.
IF WE COULD HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, UM, I, I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, BUT I THINK WE COULD FOCUS IF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO GIVE GENERAL DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS FAR AS FOCUS ON, UH, COMMER, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, FOCUS ON MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, IF YOU WANTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO FOCUS ON PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY.
I THINK THOSE KIND OF GEN, AS LONG AS THE COMMISSION STAYING OUT OF LIKE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL CASES, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, I THINK YOU CAN GIVE GENERAL DIRECTION.
THE PROCESS HAS TO BE, I THINK THE SAME.
YOU MEAN LIKE HAVING CODE COMPLIANCE FOCUSED ON RIGHT.
IF, IF YOU WANTED LIKE, LIKE TARGETED ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS ON, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY OR TYPES OF BUILDINGS, I THINK THAT KIND OF GENERAL DIRECTION IS OKAY.
I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE THE BIGGEST VIOLATORS, SPEAKING OF WHICH I, I NEED TO, I I'M NOT GONNA CALL THEM OUT LIKE JANE CREPT IT
AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I'M SO AGGRAVATED WITH IT.
AND THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO FOCUS ON.
AWNINGS, AWNINGS ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
'CAUSE RIGHT THERE, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE IT.
IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS REALLY TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY OR NOT, IT'S THOSE FILTHY, YOU KNOW, AWNINGS.
I'M SURE ONCE YOU START THERE, THERE WILL BE OTHER VIOLATIONS.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GONNA BE UNHAPPY ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S GONE ON TOO LONG.
BUT REMEMBER, JUST AGAIN, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE VIOLATION.
I THINK FOLLOWING UP ON THE VIOLATION, THE PROBLEM IS FOLLOWING UP WITH A VIOLATION.
WE NEED TO ENSURE THE PENALTIES HAVE TEETH THAT REPEAT OFFENDERS FACE.
REAL CONSEQUENCES IS THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE.
SO, SO I THINK, I THINK, DO WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION, UH, AS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS ITEM? YES.
UM, I'M DIS DESTROYING THE ERASER ON MY PENCIL.
LIKE, I'M VERY AGGRAVATED WITH THIS ISSUE.
I GOT, I JUST WITNESSED THE MURDER OF AN ERASER.
UM, THE, UM, THE OTHER THING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS, NICK, IN, IN WHAT WE'RE TRANSMITTING TO THE COMMISSION, BUT IF THERE IS,
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UM, IF STAFF AND ADMIN AND PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION WHO DEAL WITH THIS ALL THE TIME CAN KIND OF PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO CLOSE SOME OF THE LOOPHOLES ONCE PEOPLE DO GET NOTICE, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT DIFFERENTLY AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, THAT WOULD BE, UM, USEFUL AS WELL.I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T GET ALL THE WAY TO TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER FOR COMMERCIAL THAT IS NOT RELEVANT TO SINGLE FAMILY OR VICE VERSA.
AND I THINK THAT THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE PART OF THE, THE COMMITTEE'S, UM, MOTION.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL REALLY IS COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? SO, UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, CONSENSUS IS, IS LOUD AND CLEAR.
UH, MR. MOONEY AND, UH, MR. CHAIR, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THE MOTION WAS BY ACCLAMATION ONE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION BE DIRECTED TO REVIEW ALL CITY OWNED PROPERTIES AND CORRECT ALL CODE VIOLATIONS.
AND TWO, TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE MARCH 11TH LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, AND FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE A LIST OF REPEAT VIOLATORS, REPEAT VIOLATORS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENSURE THE PENALTIES HAVE MORE TEETH? WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR PENALTIES.
AND EVEN AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CALLERS MENTIONED, E EVEN EVEN IF THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, AT, YOU KNOW, FORECLOSURES IN, IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, IF WE HAVE THE TOOL AND WE AREN'T USING THE TOOL EVEN TO SEND A MESSAGE, THEN, THEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A TOOL.
AND SO THE MESSAGE NEEDS TO GO OUT.
AND THAT'S SEPARATE TO THE LEGISLATION MR. ATTORNEY THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, ON POTENTIALLY DOING A ZONING MORATORIUM FOR THOSE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE COMING BEFORE THIS, UH, LAND USE COMMITTEE, HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH, MR. ATTORNEY AS, AS SOON AS WE CAN.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT MONTH.
WITH THAT, UH, LET'S, UH, LET'S MOVE TO THE,
[3. COORDINATE WITH MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO PROMOTE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ADAPTIVE RE-USE OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.]
UH, NEXT ITEM.THE BARCLAY ITEM, UH, HAS BEEN DEFERRED TO A FUTURE MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS COORDINATE WITH MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO PROMOTE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ADAPTER, REUSE OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY COMMISSIONER BOND, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR LEADING ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS, THIS, UM, AROSE AS PART OF THE, UM, DISCUSSIONS WE WERE HAVING ABOUT THE ROSE COTTAGE AND HOW TO TRY TO SAVE IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS NOT BEHOLDEN TO OUR PRESERVATION LAWS OR DEMOLITION CRITERIA OR, UM, OUR REQUIREMENTS TO REBUILD IF SOMETHING IS DEMOLISHED.
ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY TO GET, UM, A COHESIVE PLAN ON HOW TO USE THAT SPACE, THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER SPACES THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS.
I THINK THERE'S A DEVELOPER THAT MIRIAM HAS IDENTIFIED.
SO IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
WE DON'T YET HAVE PERMISSION TO GO ON THE PROPERTY TO DOCUMENT IT SO WE CAN RECON, RECONSTRUCT THE FACADE.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ON A GRANDER SCALE, UM, HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
MAYBE THIS IS A PIE IN THE SKY WISH OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE FACILITATE CLOSER COOPERATION TO TRY TO PROTECT THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CITY THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY, TO OUR CHARACTER OF PLACE AND, AND, AND RESOURCES THAT ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS NOT PRIMARILY A LANDLORD, THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION, NOR SHOULD IT BE.
BUT THERE ARE BABIES AND WE WANNA PROTECT THEM AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE AS RESOURCES FOR OUR KIDS AND YOUR TEACHERS.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US, US TO, TO DO ON THAT FRONT? AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOND FOR, FOR, FOR INTRODUCING THIS ITEM.
I THINK WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, NATALIE SIMON, WHO IS THE DESIGN, DESIGN AND PLANNING OFFICER FOR THE DESIGN AND PLANNING OFFICER FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
SO I WAS ASKED TO COME HERE, I THINK YOU SPOKE TO RAUL PEREZ, THE CHIEF FACILITIES OFFICER FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, AND HE TOLD ME THAT YOU WANTED A HISTORY OF WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY BASICALLY AND SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE IN SEEING HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE.
UH, MORE BE BETWEEN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OUR PRESERVATION EFFORTS, UH, HERE IN THIS, IN THIS PROPERTY.
WELL, WE HAVE, LIKE COMMISSIONER BAT SAID, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UM, BETWEEN
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STAFF OF, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY.AND WE ARE DEFINITELY WILLING TO COLLABORATE.
IT'S A QUESTION OF PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW A SOLUTION TO WORK FOR THE BOTH OF US.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE DEMOLITION OF THE ROSE COTTAGE IS ON HOLD PER YOUR REQUEST COMMISSIONER BAT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT HOLD WAS EVEN EXTENDED.
UM, BUT THE CLOCK IS TICKING BECAUSE THAT COTTAGE IS IN SUCH A STATE OF DISREPAIR THAT BY HURRICANE SEASON WE'RE AFRAID THAT IT MAY BECOME A REAL LIABILITY.
SO WE'VE CONTRACTED, UH, PROFESSIONAL, THEY'VE GONE INTO THE COTTAGE.
SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE PHOTOS.
UH, IT'S REALLY NOT SALVAGEABLE AT THIS POINT.
SO WE THINK THAT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THIS STRUCTURE IS DEMOLITION.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WE SEE BEYOND THAT IS SORTING THE AREA AND THEN PERHAPS HAVING CONVERSATION AS TO WHAT TO DO PERHAPS IN THAT SPECIFIC, ON THAT SPECIFIC SITE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER VAUGHN.
SO, UM, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL ON THE COMMISSION, THERE HAD BEEN CONVERSATIONS.
UM, THERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE WAS NO COHESIVE MOVEMENT FORWARD.
SO NOW WE'RE SCRAMBLING AT 11TH HOUR AND 59TH AND A HALF SECONDS.
AND SINCE I HAVE YOU TRAPPED IN THE ROOM HERE, I'M GONNA LAY IT ALL OUT
SO I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT SECOND EXTENSION, I BELIEVE SO.
UM, I UNDERSTAND, AND MICHAEL, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT SPOT, BUT, UM, MICHAEL LARKIN, UM, WORKS WITH MIRIAM SINGER FROM THE JCS AS A PRO BONO LEGAL, UM, ADVISOR.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MIRIAM HAS A, UH, A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER THAT SHE'S WORKING WITH.
THERE IS A PLAN TO, UM, ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY FROM YOU GUYS AND, AND, AND BUNDLE IT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE JCS SITE IN THE PARKING LOT FOR FISHER FEINBERG, FEINBERG FISHER, AND DO SOMETHING CONTIGUOUS.
IT, UM, COVERS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS.
SO EARLY HOT CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, UM, THE JCS SERVICES, THE PARKING LOT FOR, UM, THE FACULTY AND STAFF AND EVENTS, AND ALSO SEVERAL STORIES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO NOBODY WANTS THE BUILDING TO FALL DOWN ON ANYBODY, BUT IT'S ALSO QUITE PROTECTED, EVEN IF IT COLLAPSES, IT'S SET BACK WITHIN, UM, THE PROPERTY ON WHICH IT RESIDES.
WE ARE STILL BEGGING FOR PERMISSION TO GO ONTO THE PROPERTY, NOT INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT ONTO THE, WITHIN THE PROPERTY GREENERY.
TO, TO PHOTO DOCUMENT AND MEASURE SO THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT IS, IS WORKED ON, WE CAN RECREATE THE, UM, FACADE.
WE STILL HAVEN'T BEEN GRANTED THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO NICK, THAT THAT, UM, DRB MEETING WAS OR DRB OR HPB, BUT THAT WAS LIKE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY THING TO DO.
THE OTHER THING IS, UM, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT THAT BUILDING COULD FALL DOWN AND DAMAGE ANYBODY SINCE IT'S SO SET IN.
BUT IF THERE'S REAL CONCERN AND WE NEED AN EXTRA FEW WEEKS TO GET THE TIME FOR OUR, OUR STAFF TO GO IN AND, AND DOCUMENT THE BUILDING, WE COULD CLOSE THOSE SIDEWALKS, THE TWO ADJACENT SIDEWALKS TEMPORARILY, AND HAVE PEOPLE CROSS THE STREET.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE US COLLECTIVELY THE ROOM.
WE NEED TO PROTECT ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE AREA WITHOUT DEMOLISHING BEFORE WE GET TO MEASURE.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD TAKE BACK TO YOUR FOLKS AND JUST GIVE US ANOTHER FEW WEEKS, UM, SO THAT MIRIAM CAN GET EVERYTHING BUTTONED UP AND PRESENTED TO YOU.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD IN GENERAL WITH THE PLAN THAT SHE HAS.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET A SHOT OFF BEFORE THE SHOT CLOCK? AND I, I JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY GREAT FOR THE SCHOOL, FOR THE STUDENTS, FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE A LASTING IMPACT HERE BECAUSE WE GOT OUR KNICKERS AND A TWIST ABOUT, IS IT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW OR CAN WE GET ANOTHER TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO THE SUMMER, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE SEASON.
WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR, BUT WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM.
IF, IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT BACK, I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK.
I'M, I'M FIGURATIVELY UNWINDED KNEE.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY GOOD AT STAYING IN TOUCH AND COMMUNICATING.
IT'S JUST SOMETIMES WE SEND LETTERS AND WE DON'T GET A RESPONSE BACK UNTIL LIKE TWO HOURS BEFORE THE DEADLINE IS OVER.
I'M LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE'RE SO GRATEFUL.
UH, MS. SIMON, THAT YOU'RE HERE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE FOR YOUR WELCOME PRESENTATION AND, AND, AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP.
AND I JUST, UH, I WANTED TO SUPPORT YOU, COMMISSIONER BOT AND I REACHED OUT TO, TO, UM, TO INDIVIDUALS AT THIS, AT THE SCHOOL BOARD WHO CONNECTED ME WITH MISS WITH MR. PEREZ.
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CONNECTED US WITH, WITH NATALIE SIMON.SO JUST VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THE DIALOGUE, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON SIGN, AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM, THOSE ATTENDING VIA ZOOM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, MITCH.
GOING ONCE, MITCH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO DANIEL ERALDO.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
COMMISSIONER DANIEL ERALDO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.
UM, IT'S THIS ROSE COTTAGE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE ESPANOLA WAY HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS THE FIRST HISTORIC DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
IT ALSO IS IN EL MURRAY DIXON.
HE'S ONE OF THE MOST NOTED, UH, ARCHITECTS OF THE PERIOD.
AND SO, ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS REALLY ROUGH RIGHT NOW, THAT BUILDING HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL.
SO I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH MIAMI-DADE SCHOOL BOARD ON A PLAN TO SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE BEFORE THE BUILDING WOULD BE DEMOLISHED FOREVER.
I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN WORK BEING DONE BY THE OWNERS ON THAT BUILDING.
AND IS SOMEBODY WHO IS ALSO A PROPERTY OWNER AND, AND WHO PROTECTS, UH, THE BUILDING WHERE I LIVE.
IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO SEE IT GOT TO THIS, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION TO BRING THIS BACK BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART.
IT'S A LANDMARK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, MITCH, UH, I SEE WE HAVE YOU BACK.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MITCH NOVIK, DO YOU HEAR ME? I'M WORKING.
I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THE CO-DIRECTOR AND I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE HELD UP TO A HIGHER STANDARD IN STANDARD IN MAINTAINING ITS PROPERTIES, UH, UH, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, HIGHER STANDARD THAN ITS RESIDENTS.
BUT I, I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
WHY WEREN'T MINIMUM MAINTENANCE STANDARDS BEING ENFORCED? UH, UH, I'M, UH, I'M ALSO INTERESTED HAS THERE BEEN RECERTIFICATIONS OF THIS BUILDING? UH, IT, IT, IT'S OVER 40 YEARS OLD AND, UH, HAS THAT BEEN, UH, DEFERRED AS WELL? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING MY COMMENT, UH, FOR, UH, THE SECOND TIME.
AND, AND MR. ATTORNEY, AS, AS IT RELATES TO THOSE COMMENTS, WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT JURISDICTION DOES THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH HAVE OVER THE, UH, THE ROSE COTTAGE? IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO UNDER FLORIDA LAW, LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE JURISDICTION TO ENFORCE THE, THE, THE BUILDING CODE, UM, AS TO AS TO THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
UM, SO, SO THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BUILDING OFFICIAL HANDLES ALL PERMITTING AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AS FAR AS THE BUILDING CODE GOES FOR SCHOOL PROPERTY.
SO DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND CITE THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD? NOT UNDER THE BUILDING CODE? NO.
AND HOW ABOUT ISSUES RELATING TO 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATIONS? HOW IS THAT ALSO HANDLED? WHAT AUTHORITY DOES THE CITY HAVE OVER SCHOOL BOARD 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATIONS? A 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATION IS A, IS A, IS A BUILDING CODE MATTER? IT'S A BUILDING CODE MATTER.
SO THE CITY CAN'T ENFORCE ON THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ATTORNEY.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MICHAEL LARKIN HERE REPRESENTING JCS ON A PRO BONO BASIS WITH MIRIAM SINGER.
UM, I THINK I, THE ISSUE IS CLEARLY THE LIABILITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND EXPRESSING YOUR VIEWPOINT.
BUT LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER BOT WAS SUGGESTING ABOUT CLOSING THE SIDEWALKS ADJACENT TO THIS HISTORIC BUILDING DOES MAKE A GOOD LOT OF COMMON SENSE THAT WAY THAT IF THE BUILDING WOULD FALL, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN SET WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THAT IT WOULDN'T REPRESENT A DANGER TO PEOPLE WALKING BY ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO LIABILITY, THERE IS ANOTHER INNOVATIVE SUGGESTION.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY PROCEDURE IN MIAMIA BEACH CALLED A LOT SPLIT.
YOU COULD DO A LOT SPLIT HERE.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COULD GRANT THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF MAYA BEACH ONCE THE CITY OF MAYA BEACH OWNS IT.
THE CITY OF MAYA BEACH IS LIABLE,
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NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ANYMORE.IF THE WHOLE QUESTION IS LIABILITY, IF THE RUSH TO DEMOLISH IT IS BASED UPON A QUESTION OF LIABILITY, IF YOU TRANSFER OWNERSHIP AND THEN STITCH A PROPERTY BACK TOGETHER WITH A COVENANT, THEN MIAMIA BEACH WOULD BE LIABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AND KEEP IT UP.
UM, AND THEN YOU RESOLVE THE LIABILITY ISSUE THAT WAY.
UM, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE WANNA HAVE AND WHY WE NEED MORE THAN ANOTHER DAY OR WHATEVER THE, THE END DEADLINE IS.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANNA KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
WE WANNA FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT JCS CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT, UM, THEY HAVE IN MIND, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN VARIOUS, UM, FORMATS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IN WHICH THE SCHOOL BOARD IS QUITE, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, IT FITS IN WITH WHAT THE, THE FEINBERG FISHER COMMUNITY NEEDS.
AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT WE DON'T, UM, LOSE THIS REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL.
AND IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO SALVAGE THE, THE BUILDING OR PART THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WITH PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
UM, SO AGAIN, MS. SIMON, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS NOT INTENDED AT ALL TO BE ANY, ANYTHING CREMATORY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE ARE THRILLED THAT YOU'RE HERE AND AND TOOK THE TIME.
BUT ALSO PLEASE UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS WE ARE ABOUT TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL OF US.
SO IF WE CAN FIND A COUPLE OF MORE MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT, DO WE DO A LOT SPLIT? DO WE DO THIS, DO WE DO THE OTHER THING WE CAN, WE ARE SPEAKING FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
WE ARE HAPPY TO CLOSE THE SIDEWALKS, IF THAT MAKES EVERYBODY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
IT'S A SMALL, UM, SMALL PORTION OF SIDEWALK.
IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO HAVE PEOPLE GO ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'S, IT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
THERE'S CROSSWALKS AND STOP SIGNS.
SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, UM, MAYBE YOU GO BACK AND HAVE A CHAT WITH YOUR FOLKS TOMORROW AND THEN MAYBE YOU AND I CAN CONNECT ON, ON MONDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US TOGETHER TO WORK FORWARD, UM, IN A COLLABORATIVE MANNER TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL OF OUR NEEDS ACCOMMODATED FOR I UNDERSTAND.
AND I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE ALL OF THAT BACK AND WE'LL BE TALKING.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE EXTEND BACK TO YOU TO, UH, TO, TO MR. PEREZ OUR APPRECIATION AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL FOR YOUR TIME.
YOU HAVE FOUR OUT OF SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION HERE AND YOU SEE HERE A DESIRE TO BE A GOOD PARTNER AND TO COLLABORATE, UH, WITH YOU IN ANY WAY THAT WE ABSOLUTELY CAN.
AND YOU HAVE MY EMAIL OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SO YES, YES.
WE'VE BEEN, DON'T, DON'T BE SHY TO USE ANYTIME.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA, UM, TAKE ITEM 13 OUT OF ORDER 'CAUSE COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ IS GONNA HAVE TO, TO STEP OUT AND WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US TODAY.
UH, MR. DIRECTOR, LET'S INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 13.
UM, MR. CHAIR, BEFORE I GO THERE FOR NUMBER THREE, I WANTED TO SEE, DO YOU WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR AN UPDATE OR, UH, I THINK NEXT MONTH, I THINK, UH, HERE NEXT MONTH.
CAN YOU PARTIC CAN YOU PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM? I'M JUST SAYING JUST BECAUSE SEEMS LIKE IT'S A ISSUE OF TIME.
TIME SEEMS TO BE OF THE ESSENCE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.
YEAH, WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, ADDRESS, LET'S DO SOMETHING HOPEFUL.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES BEFORE NEXT MONTH.
LET'S LET, WHY DON'T WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA JUST IN CASE FOR NEXT MONTH AND WE CAN ALWAYS DEFER IT, UM, TO, TO, UH, TO THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
BUT THAT WAY WE HAVE IT JUST IN CASE.
[13. DISCUSS AND REVIEW PLANNING/ZONING RESTRICTIONS THAT DELAY THE PERMIT PROCESS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS.]
ITEM NUMBER 13, UH, MR. CHAIR? YES.ITEM NUMBER 13 IS DISCUSS AND REVIEW PLANNING AND ZONING RESTRICTIONS THAT DELAY THE PERMIT PROCESS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS.
COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
WELCOME TO INTRODUCE YOUR ITEM.
SO, UM, I WENT TO MEET WITH TOM SEATED NEXT TO ME AND ASKED HIM WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO EXPEDITE AND STREAMLINE PROCESSES.
'CAUSE WHAT WE FIND IS THAT A LOT OF BUILDING PERMITS OR BUSINESSES IN GENERAL SOMEHOW GET STUCK IN PLANNING.
AND I SAID, WHAT ARE THE TOP ISSUES THAT WE COULD STREAMLINE? AND HE HAS A LIST OF THEM HERE.
SO I KIND OF WANTED TO GO THROUGH THEM TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK, BECAUSE IF I'M GONNA CREATE ANY LEGISLATION, I WANTED TO FIND OUT YOUR THOUGHTS FIRST.
THE FIRST WAS, UH, PERMANENT FENCES.
UM, TOM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS NO, UM, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE ON THE FRONT LINE WHO ARE GETTING THESE PERMITS AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE GETTING STUCK.
SO THIS DIDN'T COME FROM ANYTHING OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO NUMBER ONE, THE LDRS COULD BE AMENDMENT SO THAT THERE'S A UNIFORM STANDARD FOR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF PERMANENT FENCES.
UM, WHY, WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE AND WHY, HOW MANY DIFFERENT HEIGHTS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? THE, THE MAIN HEIGHT STANDARD USED IS FROM SIDEWALK GRADE, BUT THAT PRESENTS CHALLENGES,
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UH, FOR THOSE HOMES AND THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE AN ELEVATED YARD.ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A SEPARATE SET OF STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY TO HOMES WITH AN ELEVATED YARD WHEN A HOME NEXT TO THEM HAS EVENTUALLY AN ELEVATED YARD.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD SIMPLIFY THOSE REGULATIONS TO MAKE THEM MORE UNIFORM AND EASIER FOR, UH, DESIGN PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AST TO REVIEW.
AND THAT'S JUST COMING UP WITH ONE HEIGHT, ONE STANDARD HEIGHT FOR BOTH? IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A STANDARD UNIFORM HEIGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY TO ALL PROPERTIES.
SO PEOPLE ARE GETTING STUCK BECAUSE OF THIS.
IF WE COME BACK WITH AN LDR AMENDMENT, WOULD YOU GUYS BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET STUCK WITH THEIR FENCE HEIGHT? MM-HMM
WAIT, SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME FENCE HEIGHT, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU'RE A BURMA HOUSE UP ABOVE VERSUS THE MEASUREMENT OF THE HEIGHT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, WOULD BE THE SAME, BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE MEASUREMENT OF THE, THE, THE PLACE WHERE YOU TAKE THE MEASUREMENT WOULD BE THE SAME DEPENDING ON YOUR YARD ELEVATION.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER FENCE THAN A NEIGHBOR THAT HAS A LOWER FENCE, BUT IT WOULD STILL ENABLE YOU TO HAVE THE SAME, UM, TYPE OF, OF HEIGHT OF, OR THE SAME HEIGHT OF FENCE REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR YARD ELEVATION IS.
I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I JUST THINK ONE STANDARD HEIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WILL SOLVE PROBLEMS 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING STUCK WITH THE HEIGHTS.
YES, BUT SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR TRYING TO STREAMLINE THINGS, BUT IF YOU'RE IN AN OLDER SINGLE FAMILY BUNGALOW, YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA WANT A SEVEN OR EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS LOWER SCALE.
THE ISSUE YOU RUN INTO IS THAT IF A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY DECIDES TO ELEVATE THEIR YARD WITH A NEW HOME, UM, THEIR FENCE HAS TO PROVIDE MINIMUM SECURITY IF THEY HAVE A SWIMMING POOL OR MINIMUM SECURITY FROM INTRUSION.
AND IF THEY'RE FORCED TO MEASURE FROM GRADE, IT LIMITS THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THEIR FENCE, PARTICULARLY ON INTERIOR SIDE YARDS AND IN REAR YARDS WHERE THIS HAS, UM, BECOME MORE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE WILL START AT THE ELEVATION OF THE NEW HIRE HOME OF THE NEW YARD.
OF THE NEW YARD OF THE HOME? YES.
THAT IS, I GOTTA TELL YOU, I THINK THAT THAT IS GONNA BE SO OUT OF SCALE.
YOU THINK SO WITH SOME, I I, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
IT HAPPENED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SAW IT FIRSTHAND AND IT LOOKED VERY OUT OF PLACE.
IT LOOKED VERY OUT OF PLACE BECAUSE YOU HAD A NEIGHBOR WHO HAD, YOU KNOW, A MAYBE 1940S OR 1950S HOME, UM, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU HAD ANOTHER HOME NEXT TO THEM THAT BUILT HIGHER AND YOU KNOW, THEN YOU HAD THIS, YOU KNOW, OBNOXIOUSLY HIGH FENCE.
IT, IT JUST, IT WAS REALLY, IT, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IN IMPLEMENTATION IT'S NOT VISUALLY GOOD.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT WEDDED TO ANY OF THESE.
THESE ARE, UM, COMING FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING STUCK.
THE NEXT ONE, I DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE EITHER.
THIS ONE IS REQUIRED SETBACKS FOR SECOND FLOOR.
CURRENTLY WHEN A TWO STORY HOME EXCEEDS 25% OF THE LOT COVERAGE, THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE HOME MUST INCORPORATE MINIMUM SETBACKS FROM THE FIRST LEVEL.
THIS REQUIREMENT COULD BE SIMPLIFIED.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT, TOM? THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE, UH, IF A TWO STORY HOME AND, AND MOST TWO STORY HOMES WILL GO TO THE MAXIMUM 30% LOT COVERAGE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE FIRST LEVEL.
AND DEPENDING UPON THE WIDTH OF THE HOME, THE SIZE OF THE HOME, THAT WILL DICTATE WHAT THE MINIMUM SETBACK WOULD BE.
THIS WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE THINK COULD BE FURTHER SIMPLIFIED TO MAKE IT, UM, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND LESS COMPLICATED TO REVIEW.
I DON'T EVEN, I WOULD'VE TO SEE A PICTURE TO REALLY CONCEPTUALIZE THIS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT LIKE IN SIMPLE, NON-CHINESE WAY? IT DIFFICULT BECAUSE EACH HOME IS DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A NEW HOME IN THE CITY, IT'S A CUSTOM HOME ESSENTIALLY.
AND SOME HOMES, UM, SOME HOMES INCORPORATE THESE SETBACKS, UM, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, OTHER TIMES THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
UM, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, THEN YOU'LL HAVE A LARGE BLOCK VOLUME.
AND SO WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE REQUIREMENT BE REMOVED.
WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THERE MAY BE A WAY THAT WE COULD SIMPLIFY THE REQUIREMENT WHERE IT WOULD STILL, UH, HAVE TO BE INSTITUTED.
BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A WAY THAT WE COULD FURTHER SIMPLIFY THE REGULATION TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH.
IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE COULD EITHER BRING SOMETHING BACK, WE COULD EXPLORE TO THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE EXPLORE THAT AND KEEP IT HERE FOR YOU COULD BRING IT BACK.
LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT HERE, BUT I JUST WANNA GO THROUGH THERE'S THREE MORE.
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OKAY.SO THIS ONE IS A MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT MEANS.
NUMBER THREE, HABITABLE PROJECTIONS FOR ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOMES ALLOW ANY HABITABLE PROJECTION.
WHAT IS A HABITABLE PROJECTION? A HABITABLE PROJECTION COULD BE A ONE STORY ADDITION TO AN ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOME.
A TWO STORY ADDITION TO AN ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOME.
IT COULD EVEN BE SOMETHING LIKE AN EXPANDED CARPORT.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE THESE OLDER HOMES WITH THESE OPEN CARPORTS AND SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO EXTEND THOSE.
THIS WOULD GIVE PEOPLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF THEY'RE RETAINING AN ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOME TO ACCOMMODATE THESE ADDITIONS.
IF YOU HAVE A HISTORIC HOME AND YOU DON'T, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
THIS ONE, COULD YOU BRING BACK WHAT THE LANGUAGE YES.
I'M NOT CON I DON'T THINK I LIKE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
RETAINING WALLS ADJUST THOSE SECTIONS SPECIFIC TO RETAINING WALLS WHERE THEY OVERLAP MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGHT AND MAXIMUM YARD ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO YOU, YOU, WHENEVER YOU RAISE, UM, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW HOME AND YOU'RE, AND, AND YOU'RE ELEVATING THE YARD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RETAINING WALL.
IF YOU'RE DOING A BERM HOME WHERE YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE THE LOT TO MEET BASE FOOT ELEVATION PLUS FREEBOARD, YOU'RE HAVING A MUCH LARGER RETAINING WALL.
WHAT THIS SUGGESTS THAT WE DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RETAINING WALL MAY OVERLAP WITH FENCE HEIGHTS AND MAXIMUM YARD ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS.
AND SEE IF WE CAN BRING IN SOME MORE SIMPLICITY SO THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE RAISING THEIR YARD SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, WOULD HAVE A MORE SIMPLIFIED SET OF REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO PERIMETER FENCING, MAXIMUM YARD ELEVATION AND THE RETAINING WALLS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, GUYS? I'M HAPPY TO CONSIDER LANGUAGE FORWARD, BUT I THINK WE NEED VISUALS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO LANGUAGE FOR THAT, BUT VISUALS TOO.
FINALLY, UM, UHOH, THIS ONE IS GENERAL REGULATIONS, WHILE MORE BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
WHILE MORE COMPREHENSIVE, WHILE MORE CO MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD SET OF REGULATIONS THAT RELIES LESS ON ALLOWABLE ENCROACHMENTS AND EXCEPTION TO SETBACKS, UNIT SIZE AND LOCK COVERAGE.
OH, INSTEAD AN AN OUTER LIMIT PERTAINING TO SETBACKS, LAW COVERAGE AND UNIT SIZE COULD BE ESTABLISHED.
I DON'T, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? INSTEAD AN OUTER LIMIT PERTAINING TO SETBACKS.
THAT THAT REMOVES SOMETIMES OVERLAPPING AND COMPLEX RULES FOR SETBACK, ENCROACHMENTS, AND EXCEPTIONS TO UNIT SIZE.
THAT MEANS WITHIN BOX YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, RIGHT? YES.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS THAT PRETTY MUCH WITHIN A BOX YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, SAID REGULAR, REALIZE LESS UN ALLOWABLE ENCROACHMENTS AND EXCEPTION TO SETBACK TO YOUR SIZE.
SO AT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU WANNA DO THERE? SO RIGHT NOW, UNDER THE CODE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE REGULATED BY A SERIES OF DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAT PERTAIN TO OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT, MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE, AND MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE.
WITHIN THAT ESTABLISHED ENVELOPE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE ENCROACHMENTS.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE EXCEPTIONS TO LOT COVERAGE AND EXCEPTIONS TO UNIT SIZE.
AND THAT WAS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THINGS LIKE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
IT WAS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THINGS LIKE OPEN PORCHES AND TERRACES.
BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY COMPLEX AND WHILE GOOD ARCHITECTS DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH MEETING THESE, THE NOT SO GREAT ARCHITECTS STRUGGLE WITH IT.
AND THIS IS MEANT TO PROTECT OUR CITY YES.
AND I JUST, I, LET ME, LET ME, I MEAN, I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL ENOUGH BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA OFFEND ANYONE, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING US FROM THE GLASS BOXES, THE GLASS CONCRETE BOXES THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THESE SOLID WALLS AND THESE SOLID THINGS, RIGHT, TOM? CORRECT.
AND I HAVE A BIG CONCERN WITH THIS BECAUSE IF ANYTHING WE'VE INTRODUCED NICK, AN ITEM AS IT RELATES TO DESIGN CRITERIA AND TRYING TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE PENETRATIONS AND SETBACKS AND, AND YOU, I DON'T KNOW.
I GOT VERY CONCERNED THIS, THESE, THESE COMPLICATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE ARE A, A CITY OF COMPLICATED DESIGN.
AND IT SOUNDS HORRIBLE, BUT, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT OUR DESIGN.
IT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE COMPLICATED.
SO CAN AN AGENDA ITEM DISCUSS ALEX'S COMPLICATION? SO IS THIS, IS THIS
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A NODE? DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT COMPLICATED? DOES THIS THUMBS DOWN? I, I REALLY THINK OKAY.THIS PRESERVES THE ARCHITECTURE AND IF ANYTHING, WE NEED TO BE BUILDING UPON THAT.
'CAUSE WHEN WE SEE THE GLASS BOXES THAT WE COMPLAIN ABOUT AND THAT OUR RESIDENTS FEEL IS OUT OF CHARACTER IN, IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US FROM THAT.
AND I REALLY, BUT I MEAN, TOM, WE REFERRED AN ITEM TO THIS COMMITTEE TO, IF ANYTHING, MAKE THINGS MORE STRICT SO THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE PORTHOLES, SO THAT WE HAVE EYEBROWS, SO THAT WE HAVE THE CURVES AND THE GLASS BOX AND YOU KNOW, THE, NOT THE GLASS BOXES, BUT WHAT DO YOU THE BLOCK GLASS BLOCK.
GLASS BLOCK AND THE STUFF THAT RETAIN THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER, EVEN IF IT'S THROUGH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WE WANT TO RETAIN THAT ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER IN OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BOND.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S, UM, A DESIRE BY ALL OF US ON THE COMMISSION TO CORRECT.
TO TRY TO HELP THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION, UM, IMPROVE PROCESSES AND, AND GIVE A LITTLE HEFT TO IT AS, AS MAYBE WARRANTED.
I ALSO, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
ALL OF US ARE LISTENING STAFF AND EVERYBODY ON THE FRONT LINES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND EVERYWHERE, UM, ARE LISTENING TO THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
AND SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE UNITED, UM, IN OUR DESIRE TO IMPROVE THAT IS A GOOD THING.
I AM VERY CONCERNED THOUGH, AT THIS MOVE AND NOT, NOT CALLING THIS OUT IN PARTICULAR, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE MOVEMENTS AFOOT TO STREAMLINE AGENDAS AND TO ELIMINATE TYPES OF REVIEW AND TO DO ALL THESE THINGS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE PRECISELY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS GET DONE IN A MANNER THAT THE CITY FOR DECADES HAS DEEMED IS VALUABLE.
AND SO WHILE THE PROCESSES MAY REQUIRE STREAMLINING, UM, AND THERE IS, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
I'M, I'M LEERY OF THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF REMOVING THE SAFEGUARDS.
UM, BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, WE TURN INTO ANY OTHER CITY COSMETICALLY, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SETS US APART IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH IS GOING THROUGH AN OPEN AIR ARCHITECTURE MUSEUM.
AND I DON'T THINK WE WANNA LOSE THAT.
SO I APPLAUD THE EFFORT TO TRY TO GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I'M LEERY OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
SO WHEN IN DOUBT, LET'S TAKE SMALLER STEPS FIRST.
WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEM AND WE DECIDED THAT ONE IN FIVE ELIMINATED, BUT THAT TWO, THREE AND FOUR, HE COULD COME BACK, BRING LANGUAGE AND VISUALS AND SEE IF WE AGREE.
AND THAT'S JUST THESE, IT'S, THERE'S, OH, THESE, THESE TWO.
TOM, COULD YOU BRING IT BACK AND SHOW US WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF WE AGREE TO STREAMLINE IT? YES.
I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE CONTINUE THIS TO THE MAY MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DEVELOP THE TEXT AND THE VISUALS AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
SO WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS THAT THESE ARE JUST, THIS IS JUST AN M SEE THE BUILDING PERMIT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS ONE SET OF PLANS AND, BUT ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH THESE ISSUES AS WELL? NO, BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST EXPLANATORY.
SETTING UP THE ITEM THEN THESE WERE THE, AND THEN THESE WERE THE SUGGESTIONS.
SO THE ITEM WILL BE COMING BACK.
ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? ON THIS ITEM? IF YOU'RE IN PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH A PODIUM ON ZOOM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
DANIEL ERALDO WITH MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE IDEAS ARE WORTH EXPLORING AND I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHEN THEY COME BACK MORE OF THE DETAILS.
I DO RECALL THE 25% OF THE, THE SECOND FLOOR HAD TO DO WITH SOME OF THE HOMES THAT WERE BEING BUILT BACK IN THE DAY THAT, THAT WERE A BIT TOP HEAVY.
AND SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DESIGN GUIDELINE.
AND ON THE NOTE OF DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, DEFINITELY I ENCOURAGE WHAT COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ MENTIONED RELATED TO DEVELOPING DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FAR.
CORAL GABLES, PALM BEACH, THEY BOTH HAVE VERY GOOD SINGLE FAMILY, UM, YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES.
AND IN FACT, I THINK THE PLANNING DIRECTOR LIVES IN ONE OF THOSE CITIES.
SO, UH, MAYBE ANYTIME THAT WE RECOMMEND SOMETHING FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, LET'S ALSO SEE HOW THESE OTHER HIGH-END NEIGHBORHOODS OPERATE AND MAKE SURE WE, WE BECOME A LITTLE MORE LIKE THEM AND, UH, KEEP OUR UNIQUE CHARACTER.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, WE ARE GONNA TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO WHICH MONTH? MAY, MAY, MAY.
[15. DISCUSS AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE RELIEF FROM THE CITY’S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR RENOVATIONS TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT EXCEED 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.]
UM, COMMISSIONER WILSON GONZALEZ, I'M GONNA CALL ITEM 15 BECAUSE THEN I NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA, BUT PLEASE BE QUICK WITH THE ITEM.AND I DID, UH, WITHDRAW ITEM 17, WHICH WAS THE ARTIFICIAL
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TERM.WELL, I ASKED, WE WERE THROUGH THAT ITEM.
I ASKED TOM AND I WANTED, WELL, YOU KNOW WHY? 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE INSTALLING IT, THEY'RE DOING IT ILLEGALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TREND AND IT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ, UM, ITEM 15 REAL QUICK? YES, PLEASE INTRODUCE ITEM 15.
DISCUSS AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE RELIEF FROM THE CITY'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR RENOVATIONS TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT EXCEED 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
OKAY, SO IF I WANNA RENOVATE MY HOUSE, LET'S SAY I LIVE IN NORTH BEACH, OKAY? AND I DON'T HAVE TONS OF MONEY.
THESE LANDSCAPING, THEY'RE WE'RE REQUIRING LIKE SUPER EXPENSIVE TREES AND LANDSCAPING AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.
SO OUT OF ALL OF THE ITEMS, UH, THIS ONE, I, I, I AGREE TO THE MOST BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, IT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RENOVATING THEIR HOMES.
OKAY? AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO, UM, SO LET'S SEE WHERE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, TOM? INSTEAD OF LIKE, IT'S ON PAGE TWO.
SO WE COULD, INSTEAD OF REQUIRING A 10 FOOT TREE, WE COULD LET THEM BUY A SIX FOOT TREE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS SO BAD.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW HOME, I DON'T CARE.
MAKE THEM BUY A 15 FOOT TREE, I DON'T CARE.
BUT IF JUST TRYING TO RENOVATE MY KITCHEN AND MY GARAGE OR I HAVE SOME EXTRA KIDS AND I WANNA REDO MY GARAGE AND I HIT THAT 50% THRESHOLD, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE MAKING ME BUY SUPER EXPENSIVE HIGH TREES.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, BE ABLE TO GO TO, LET'S SEE, THE CITY CODE REQUIRES ALL SHRUBS OF TREES TO BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO I CAN'T FIND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, TOM.
WHAT WE DID, COMMISSIONER, IS THAT THE EXAMPLES THAT WE LISTED ABOVE WERE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CITY CODE AND THE COUNTY CODE.
THE COUNTY CODE HAS THE LESSER STANDARD AND UNDER THE COUNTY CODE, EVEN IF YOU'RE EXCEEDING THE 50% RULE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF THE COUNTY CODE.
WE JUST KEPT IT SIMPLE BY CREATING AN EXCEPTION FOR HOMES, EXCEEDING THE 50% RULE THAT YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNTY CODE AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY CODE.
I LIKE, LIKE THIS BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY HELPS PEOPLE RETAIN.
AND SO I'M, I'M FINE WITH THIS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S THE COUNTY CODE, FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF REQUIRING, WE REQUIRE A 12 FOOT TREE AND THIS REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT TREE, SO YOU'RE PLANTING THE TREE, IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE A YEAR LONGER TO GET THE CANOPY THAT YOU WANT.
I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT, SO YOU GOT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH FOLLOWING THE COUNTY CODE ON THIS? I, I'M FINE, BUT I WELCOME COMMENTS FROM OUR COLLEAGUES.
UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE DA? NO, I, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A REASONABLE, UM, STEP FOR US.
I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? I'LL MOVE IT A SECOND BY THE CHAIR.
IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK IN PERSON, SEEING NONE VIA ZOOM.
CAN WE APPROVE THIS BY ACCLAMATION? YES.
ALRIGHT, AND MR. CHAIR, WE'LL SHOW
[17. DISCUSS AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS TO EXPAND EXISTING ALLOWANCES FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF IN REAR AND SIDE YARDS.]
ITEM NUMBER 17 WITHDRAWN BY THE SPONSOR PERTAINING TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.[4. DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.STILL ON THE AGENDA I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE WAS MATERIALS RELATING TO THIS ITEM HAVING TO DO WITH THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A POSITION ON THAT WAS NOT DISSEMINATED.
THAT I DO NOT APPRECIATE HAVING TO BE TAKING A POSITION ON SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO EVALUATE IN ADVANCE.
SO ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM TODAY OR ARE WE DEFERRING THIS ITEM? I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE ADAM SPONSOR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'D LIKE TO PREFER IT OR, ALRIGHT, LET'S INTRODUCE THE ITEM JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN.
BUT SO I, I THINK THE UM, INTENT GIVEN THAT WE RAN OUT OF TIME TO GET THE MOST UPTODATE INFORMATION IS TO HAVE A VERY BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW AND THEN DEFER TO APRIL, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW EVERYTHING AND, AND, UM, WE CAN PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.
'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY MEATY SET OF INFORMATION AND NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE A POSITION ON SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY DON'T.
SO, UM, BUT I, I, LISTEN, I DO WANNA COMMEND, UM, HEATHER SHAW AND HER TEAM FOR PULLING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME, UM, OVER MULTIPLE COMMISSIONS ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN NORTH BEACH AND HOW TO, UM, INVIGORATE AND, AND AND SORT OF INVEST IN NORTH BEACH AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THE WEST SALTS COME UP THE, THE, UM, THE LOG CABIN COMES UP, WHAT ABOUT SIDEWALKS? WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THAT? AND NOBODY'S DONE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UM, IN THE GEO BOND, ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE FROM THE PLAN NOBI THERE.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THINGS PUT FORTH AND NO REAL TRACKING SYSTEM.
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AND HER AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT IS NOW GONNA BECOME BASICALLY OUR BIBLE.UM, AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO, UM, TO DISCUSS THIS IN, IN MAY, WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE A COUPLE MORE UPDATES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS IS A LONG TIME, THREE MONTHS IS A LONG TIME AND WE MIGHT HAVE MOVED FORWARD IN SOME THINGS.
UM, AND SOME THINGS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ADDED.
SO I THINK, UM, THIS DOCUMENT WE'LL MERIT A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE ARE, WHAT ISN'T HAPPENING THE WAY WE WANT IT TO, THINGS THAT ARE GOING GREAT.
HOW DO WE EMULATE THAT? HEATHER, DO YOU WANNA, UM, ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? THANK YOU VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AND COLLEAGUES AND YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID IT ALL.
I HAVE 10 OF MY COLLEAGUE, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALSO WORKING ON THIS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY FACILITIES PLANNING.
THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE 10 DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE ALL COME TOGETHER.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE ARE 25 PROJECTS THAT ARE ON, ON THIS, UH, LIST THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH I WILL EMAIL TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL AS YOUR AIDE.
UM, AND OUT OF THE 25 ITEMS THAT ARE HERE, ABOUT SIX ARE COMPLETE.
BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TO HAVE A, A FLUID DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN STAY ON TOP OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, UM, IN NORTH BEACH IN ACCORDING TO THE, UH, NO B PLAN FROM 2018.
UM, AND I COMMEND, UM, VICE MAYOR BOT FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE CAN STAY ON TOP OF THIS TO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE IN NORTH BEACH.
THIS IS REALLY GREAT WORK, UH, VICE MAYOR AND, AND HEATHER.
UM, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING, I DON'T MIND ACTUALLY BEING LATE FOR
SO I CAN SEE THE HARD WORK, UH, PUT INTO THIS AND IT'S EASY TO READ AND IT'S EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE.
AND SO I CAN TAKE ZERO CREDIT FOR I GREAT.
I, SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING A PRESENTATION ONTO DECEMBER, REVIEWING IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH EVERYBODY'S PERMISSION, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEND THIS OUT.
UM, AND IF WE CAN AS YOU PLAN AHEAD FOR THE MAY MEETING, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THIS DISCUSSION ITEM AT TIMES CERTAIN, UM, FOR SURE BECAUSE I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO I KNOW REACH OUT TO ME AND I'M SURE REACH OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS OR I NEVER SAW THAT, OR WHOSE, WHOSE PURVIEW DOES FIXING X FALL INTO.
AND THIS IS, UM, A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT THAT GIVES REALLY GOOD UPDATES, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN COMPILE THEIR LIST OF QUESTIONS FOR US IN MAY AND IT WILL SERVE ALMOST AS A, UM, A, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETING.
NOT AS ROBUST AS THAT OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE WE'LL BE LIMITED IN TIME, BUT AT LEAST IT CAN GET US GOING.
AND THEN MAYBE AS A RESULT OF THAT WE PRIORITIZE THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING OR WHATEVER.
BUT I THINK TO SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THAT BIGGER DISCUSSION, UM, WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL IF IT'S OKAY TO SEND US OUT.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A FLUID, SO WE'RE STILL UPDATING AS WE'RE GOING.
WELL, AND IT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, THE UPDATED AS OF WILL ALWAYS BE UPDATED, SO, UM, THAT'S FINE.
SO WE'LL SET A TIME CERTAIN FOR THAT MEETING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOND AND THANK YOU HEATHER, AND TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR, FOR GREAT WORK ON THIS, UH, MR. CHAIR, JUST TO CONFIRM YES.
UM, COMMISSIONER BOT, DO YOU WANT THIS CONTINUED TO APRIL 15TH OR THE MAY 8TH MEETING? UM, HEATHER, CAN WE DO APRIL? APRIL? OKAY.
UH, WITH THAT, WE ALREADY HEARD ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
[6. DISCUSS A PROPOSAL ESTABLISHING A HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO RESTORE FLOOD-DAMAGED LANDSCAPING.]
INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER SIX SO THAT WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THAT QUICKLY.ITEM NUMBER SIX IS DISCUSS A PROPOSAL ESTABLISHING A HOMEOWNER ASSISTANT PROGRAM, HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO RESTORE FLOOD DAMAGED LANDSCAPING.
SO THIS IS AN ITEM I HAD, I HAD PLACED ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE OFTENTIMES, AT LEAST, I OFTENTIMES HEAR FROM, FROM RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS WHO TAKE GREAT PRIDE INTO IMPROVING THEIR LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE KING TIDE, AND YOU HAVE FULL MOON, AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON WITH THAT AND YOUR LANDSCAPING GETS, GETS, UH, GETS BURNT, UH, AND DIES.
AND SO WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO IN ORDER TO HELP INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, RESTORE SOME OF THE GRASS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT DOES GET BURNT WITH THIS WATER.
UH, THE LANDSCAPING THAT GETS KILLED.
THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT RECOMMEND, UH, CREATING, UH, AN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALREADY DO SOME PRETTY GOOD OUTREACH.
UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
RODNEY KNOWLES, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UH, THERE IS INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE REGARDING, UH, THE BEST VEGETATION THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR THE AREA.
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DEFINITELY REVOLVES AROUND USING FLORIDA FRIENDLY FLORIDA NATIVE MATERIAL THAT IS BEST SUITED FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.UM, ONE OF THE DISTINCTIONS WE WANTED TO MAKE WAS THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN SALT TOLERANT VERSUS SALT, UM, MATERIAL THAT CAN WITHSTAND, UH, SALT WATER INUNDATION.
THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE THERE.
WE'LL MAKE A, A BETTER EFFORT AT MAKING THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHICH CONDITIONS, UM, THEY STAND THE BEST CHANCE WITH.
AND, AND, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF'S CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM.
UM, HAPPY TO ACCEPT STAFFS, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
WITH THAT, WE CAN CLOSE THIS ITEM.
AND I WANNA ALSO THANK OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
I SEE WE HAVE JAY FINK, UH, HERE.
JAY HAS BEEN WORKING ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES FOR US, YOU KNOW, FROM SWAMP GAS, UH, TO FLOODING TO A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS UNDER, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF, UH, OF, UH, BRAD, UH, KANE.
OUR, OUR INTERIM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECT.
AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, ALL OF YOU.
UH, UH, RONNIE, YOU, YOU AS WELL.
I REALLY LOVE THE WORK THAT THIS DEPARTMENT DOES.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK, FOR THE RESPONSIVENESS.
UH, I THINK OUR RESIDENTS, UH, APPRECIATE HOW ACTIVE YOU GUYS ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT PUBLICLY FROM THE DAY AS, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF, OF OUR RESIDENTS, HOW MUCH YOU ARE APPRECIATED FOR THE WORK YOUR DEPARTMENT'S DOING.
COMMISSIONER BOND, AND IF I MAY JUMP ONTO THAT BANDWAGON, UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE WALKTHROUGHS IN NORTH BEACH AND NOW IN SOUTH BEACH, AND WE'RE GONNA BE ALL ABOUT THE TOWN AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS.
UM, YOUR DEPARTMENT IS, IS INCREDIBLY WELL REPRESENTED AND INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE AS WE SEE, YOU KNOW, UM, THINGS THAT ARE AMISS OR THAT DON'T LOOK QUITE RIGHT.
UM, AND SOMETIMES EVEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS TRUCK FOLLOWING US ALONG AND LIKE MOVING INTO ACTION AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS. SO WE WELL DONE.
THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.
[7. EXPEDITE THE OPENING OF THE BAYWALK AND MOVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BAYWALK UP ON THE G.O. BOND PRIORITIZATION LIST AND PRESENT THE BAYWALK PLAN TO THE LUSC COMMITTEE.]
DIRECTOR, LET'S INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS EXPEDITE THE OPENING OF THE BAY WALK AND MOVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BAY.
WALK UP ON THE GEO BOND PRIORITIZATION LIST AND PRESENT THE BAY WALK TO THE LUSE COMMITTEE.
COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS ITEM BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GREAT STUFF AND EXCITING PROGRESS HAPPENING THERE.
UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO INTRODUCE YOUR ITEM.
UH, WELL, WE HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
UM, THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE WORK BEHIND THE MONDRIAN TO COMPLETE THOSE SEGMENTS.
WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN HEARING IS, UH, THE MISSING LINKS THAT, UH, CONTRACTS WITH, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
UM, SOUTHGATE, SOUTH BAY LINCOLN COURT.
I, UH, MR. CHAIR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.
UM, THE UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED IT, IT'S A GOOD NEWS UPDATE.
THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING, THE SEGMENT BEHIND THE MANNA MIRROR DOOR IS, UH, VIRTUALLY COMPLETE.
THE WRAPPING UP FINAL INSPECTIONS AND, AND DOING THE LAST OF THE CLEANUP.
THE UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU ON THE OTHER LINKS IS THAT THE SOUTH BAY CLUB, THAT'S 800 WEST AVENUE, WE RECEIVED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S MARKUPS ON, ON THE FINAL AGREEMENT.
UM, WE'RE REVIEWING THAT AND THAT SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO THE BOARD IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO ONCE WE HAVE A, A CHANCE TO CONFIRM THAT ALL THE, THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO LINKS, UH, WHICH IS THE BAYVIEW TERRACE AND BAY GARDEN MANOR.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE'S A, A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH OF THE BUILDINGS TO, TO TRY TO SEE HOW WE PUT THAT INTO EFFECT.
UM, COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, NO, I, GREAT PROGRESS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE PRESSURE ON THIS AND IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE.
LAST WEEK, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ WITH YOU, UH, CELEBRATING THIS INCREDIBLE MILESTONE.
HOPEFULLY WITHIN 20 TO 24 MONTHS WE'LL HAVE, UH, BRIDGE YES.
CONNECTING PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES, THE FUTURE OF MARK SAMUEL BRIDGE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL TALK NEXT MONTH.
[8. MONTHLY UPDATES ON HISTORIC HOTEL REDEVELOPMENT ON COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 14TH AND 20TH STREETS, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF PENDING PERMITS AND PROGRESS UPDATES FROM DEVELOPMENT TEAMS.]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, AND THEN AFTER ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WE'LL GET, UH, THE UPDATE ON OCEAN TERRACE.SO LET'S INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FIRST.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS MONTHLY UPDATES ON HISTORIC HOTEL REDEVELOPMENT ON COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 14 AND 20TH STREETS, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF PENDING PERMITS AND PROGRESS UPDATES FROM DEVELOPMENT TEAMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, AND I PLACED THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S IS AN ITEM THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN, UH, RECURRING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE AMBITIOUS PLANS, UH, FOR THIS PART OF, OF COLLINS AVENUE.
UH, I THINK THERE'S OVER $2 BILLION
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THAT'S BEEN REPORTED ON TWO, $2 BILLION OF INVESTMENTS IN HIGH-END HOTELS, IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND RESTAURANTS.UM, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE HEART OF OUR ARCHITECTURE DISTRICT.
THIS IS PART OF OUR CHERISHED, UH, OUR CHERISHED SKYLINE.
UM, AND, UH, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE AND PRESERVING IS MAKING SURE ALSO THAT AS WE APPROVE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS, UH, TO FIX THESE PROPERTIES, THAT THERE'S PROGRESS AND THAT, AND THAT WE DON'T RISK LOSING THESE HISTORIC ASSETS.
UM, TOM, WALK US THROUGH WHERE WE ARE, UH, WITH, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.
UM, I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PRESS AROUND THE SHELL BORN, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THE DELANO.
TELL US WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THESE PROJECTS.
WE, WE ATTACHED TO THE, UH, LAND USE COMMITTEE MEMO, A SUMMARY OF THE HOTEL PROJECTS BETWEEN 14TH AND AND 21ST STREET.
UM, AND AS YOU'LL NOTE, WE INDICATE WHICH ONES, UM, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A CO AND ARE DONE LIKE THE, THE NASSAU.
UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS, THE SMALLER PROJECTS LIKE THE AOSA, THE HADDEN HALL, AND THE AQUA AND THE ROYAL PALM NO MORE, NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN BEEN APPLIED FOR YET, OR THEY'RE STILL PENDING AT THE, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
UM, AS YOU GET INTO THE BIGGER HOTELS, UM, THE RITZ, UH, SAGAMORE, UH, HAS APPLIED FOR A PERMIT AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR REVIEWS NOW.
BUT THE NATIONAL HOTEL HAS NOT YET APPLIED FOR THEIR PERMIT.
THE DELANO HOTEL WAS ISSUED A FULL BUILDING PERMIT.
IT'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, AND VIRTUALLY ALL THE NEW WINDOWS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UM, APPLICANT.
THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE MOVING AHEAD AT FULL SPEED AND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, THE RALEIGH HOTEL, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT AND WE'LL GET TO THEM.
UM, THE SHELBURN HOTEL ALSO HAS A FULL, FULL BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED.
IT IS AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY GOT SOME GOOD PRESS IN THE MIAMI HERALD THIS WEEK ABOUT THEIR, THEIR RESTORATION.
UM, THE NATOS HOTEL IS PENDING BEFORE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
THE SHORE CLUB HOTEL RENOVATION, INCLUDING A NEW RESIDENTIAL TOWER, HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
THEY ARE IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, AND THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH TWO REVIEWS.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST HOTEL IS THE ARY, WHICH IS THE HISTORIC SEGAL HOTEL.
A PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE WORK.
AND ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE NOT STARTED WORK AS OF YET, THEY HAVE MET WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF.
UM, AND THE PROJECT TEAM HAS ADVISED THAT THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AND THEY HAVE DONE SOME LIMITED DEMOLITION WORK ON THE SITE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT DEMOLISHING THE PROPERTY? NO, NO.
THIS WAS JUST A NON-CONTRIBUTING PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD PERMIT TO BE YEAH.
AND SO LET, LET ME, LEMME JUST ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE OF THE LARGER HOTELS, AND I HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, THESE LARGER HOTELS, UM, THEY ARE, THEY, THEY ARE PART OF THIS IMAGE OF, OF OUR CITY, THE SMALLER ONES AS WELL.
UM, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE IMAGE OF THESE SHUTTERED BUILDINGS, BUT HOW THAT DOES AFFECT OUR ECONOMY IN, IN, IN THE CITY.
SO THE NATIONAL HOTEL, ONE OF THE BIG ONES, WHY HAVEN'T THEY APPLIED FOR A PERMIT YET? UM, THEY HAVEN'T INDICATED WHY THEY HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT YET.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO HAVE THEY RESPONDED TO YOUR INCREASE? UM, NOT AS OF YET, NO.
BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN AND, AND, AND SEE WHY, WHAT THE DELAY IS WITH REGARD TO, UM, THEIR APPROVED PROJECT.
CAN I SAY A QUESTION BEFORE YES.
THROUGH THE LIST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO NO PERMIT APPLIED FOR THERE, JUST FROM THAT ANNOTATION, IT'S UNCLEAR IF THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH HPV OR DRB AS NEEDED OR THEY HAVE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CO AT THE COLUMN, UH, THE THIRD COLUMN, IT HAS THE OHM, SORRY, HPB FILE NUMBER? YES.
SO THEY'VE RECEIVED THEIR HPV APPROVAL, BUT THEY'VE NOT YET COME IN FOR A PERMIT.
AND DOES THAT APPROVAL EXPIRE? IT DOES.
HOWEVER, THEY LIKELY AVAIL THEMSELVES OF A STATE EXTENSION, WHICH WOULD EXTEND THE HPB ORDER.
WHAT? SO WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THOUGH.
WHEN, HOW, OKAY, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.
WHEN DOES IT EXPIRE AND WHAT DATE EXCEPTION EX WHATEVER EXTENSION IS THERE.
NORMALLY, UM, UNDER THE LDRS, AN APPROVAL OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS GOOD FOR 18 MONTHS.
SO IT WOULD BE 18 MONTHS FROM THE MAY 9TH DATE.
AFTER THAT TIME, A PROPERTY OWNER CAN THEN REQUEST UP TO A ONE YEAR EXTENSION.
SO IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY 30 MONTHS.
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UNDER STATE LAW, WHENEVER THE GOVERNOR SIGNS AN EMERGENCY DECLARATION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE EXTENSION OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND BUILDING PERMITS, ANYBODY CAN AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THAT EXTENSION.WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN EXTENDED TO 20 29, 20 30 THROUGH THESE STATE EXTENSIONS.
BUT IS THAT, BUT DO YOU HAVE TO GRANT THAT EXTENSION? NOPE.
THEY JUST NOTIFY US THAT THEY'VE AVAILED THEMSELVES AT THIS AND THEN WE KEEP A RUNNING TALLY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WAIT, WAIT, I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY HERE.
SOMEONE CAN REQUEST IT AND THEY AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVE IT.
OR, OR WE HAVE TO REVIEW THAT REQUEST AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHETHER TO GRANT IT OR NOT, OR TO THE, OR TO PLANNING OFFICIAL NICK.
IF, IF A, IF A, IF A PROPERTY OWNER OR APPLICANT SUBSTANTIATES THAT THEY HAD AN ACTIVE PERMIT THAT WAS TOLD BY THE STATUTE AND THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THE ADDITIONAL TIME, WE HAVE NO DISCRETION.
AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT WE APPROVE IT.
IT'S, IT'S THIS, THE, THE BY OPERATION OF LAW, THE, THE, THE PERMITS ARE EXTENDED.
NOW, THE LEGISLATURE DID AMEND THIS LAW A FEW YEARS AGO TO, TO LIMIT, UM, THE TOTAL EXTENSIONS SO THAT IT'S, IT'S FOR THE, FOR THE PERIODS OF, OF THE DECLARATION OF ANY NATURAL EMERGENCY PLUS A TOTAL OF 48 MONTHS.
IT USED TO BE EVEN LONGER, BUT, SO THIS COULD GO ON FOR YEARS? IT DOES GO ON FOR YEARS, YES.
AND DO THEY NEED TO HAVE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT BEFORE THEY CAN AVAIL THEMSELVES OF AN EXTENSION? THEY CAN ONLY GET AN EXTENSION UNDER THE STATUTE IF THE PERMIT WAS ACTIVE AT THE TIME OF THE DECLARATION OF AN EMERGENCY.
SO, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE NATIONAL, THEY HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR A PERMIT? WELL, SOME OF THESE WILL EXTEND ORDERS.
SO SOME OF THESE STATE EXTENSIONS APPLY TO DEVELOPMENT ORDERS.
AND SO EVENTUALLY THEY WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
BUT IF YOU CAN DEC, IF YOU CAN EXTEND YOUR DEVELOPMENT ORDER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THEN THAT GIVES YOU FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO APPLY FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT.
YEAH, BUT LOOK AT THE AQUA THROUGH THE CHAIR.
I MEAN THAT'S FIVE YEARS IN COUNTING.
I MEAN THAT, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO FALL INTO THESE PARAMETERS.
SO CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? WE CAN FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT A, UM, EXTENSION OF TIME THROUGH THE STATE HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR AND WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS.
I, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON COLUMBUS AVENUE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S, THAT'S HORRIBLE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RALLY.
I SEE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE RALLY PRESENCE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR ALFREDO GONZALEZ FOR THE RECORD.
SO, SO IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER RECEIVED AN APPROVAL OVER FOUR YEARS AGO.
WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT, WITH THAT PROJECT? CURRENTLY, IF YOU GO ON SITE, THE, UH, PILES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING INSTALLED.
IT'S A PROCESS STARTED ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
UM, IT WILL BE ONGOING THROUGH PROBABLY THE END OF SUMMER.
SO THEN THEY COULD MOVE ON TO, UM, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
HAS THE PROPERTY OWNER SECURED FINANCING FOR FULL CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT? UM, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE MORE BUSINESS TERMS AND I'M HAPPY TO RELAY THAT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SCHEDULE A MEETING, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC FORUM.
SO, SO, SO WE DON'T KNOW TODAY IF, IF, IF THEY HAVE SECURED FINANCING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT? WELL, THERE IS FINANCING 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE SITE.
BUT THE FULL CONSTRUCTION, IT'S ALL DONE IN PHASES.
THAT'S PROJECTS ARE TYPICALLY DONE IN PHASES.
OH, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
AND THE SALES SEMINAR IS OPEN.
UM, I MEANT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
IT IS ANOTHER, IS IT FOR SALE FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPER TO PICK IT UP AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME? UM, MICHAEL SHOW IS ACTUALLY THE ONE DOING ALL THE WORK AND IT'S HIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME.
I HAD Y THAT IT, THAT THE PROJECT WAS BEING COURTED FOR SALE AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY, UM, CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP BEING COMPENSATED.
AT THIS POINT THEY'RE ACTIVELY DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT AND WELCOME TO ANYONE TO GO BY THE SITE AND, AND SEE THE WORK BEING DONE.
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ALBERTO, YOU KNOW, IT LOVE YOU.BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO CURRENTLY, YES, MR. RO IS DOING THE WORK ON THE SITE, BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS WHERE THERE'S A DESIRE TO OFFLOAD THE PROJECT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO FINISH IT.
ALL, ALL DUE RESPECT, COMMISSIONER, I WAS ASKED TO COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND 'CAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT GOING ON ON THE SITE.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THE, WE HAD INFORMED SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, SOME, UH, THAT THE
BUT BECAUSE OF THE SUBCONTRACTOR COMMITTED OTHER, UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS GOT DELAYED.
THEY DIDN'T ARRIVE UNTIL LAST MONTH.
SO ON WORK IS ONGOING, IT'S CONTINUING.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT I COULD SAY.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE ASKED TO COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT TO US IT'S PART AND PARCEL BECAUSE YEAH, WE SEE THE HULK THERE.
THAT IS WELL BUTTRESS AND THAT'S ALL GREAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING UPON US IN A FEW MONTHS AND IT GIVES AT LEAST ME PAUSE.
'CAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MM-HMM
ALL THESE THINGS ARE, I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE ARE MUCH SMARTER HAVE IT SORTED OUT.
BUT WHEN OUR RESIDENTS ASK US WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RALEIGH ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH AN EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO SO MANY RESIDENTS, UM, I HEARD THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM.
SO IT'S GREAT THAT, UM, WORK IS CON IS IS STARTING AGAIN, THAT THE PILINGS ARE BEING PUT IN AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE DELAYS.
IT'S PART OF THE, THE NIGHTMARE OF CONSTRUCTION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT PROJECTS CAN GET FINANCED IN PHASES TO CORRESPOND WITH THE OUTLAY OF CASH THAT IS NECESSARY.
THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT I, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE TO EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE BUSINESS LOOKING AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN ABANDONED OR UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S BEEN ABANDONED AND THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DID, DID MR. SRO OVEREXTEND AND THEREFORE SOME PROJECTS ARE SUFFERING.
PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT THOSE ANSWERS.
SO IF THERE IS, UM, A DIFFERENT WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET US THOSE ANSWERS, I GUESS THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW THAT WORKS EXACTLY, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THIS IMPORTANT ASSET IS IN GOOD CONDITIONS.
AND, AND SO, AND I, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT TO PUT YOU ON ON, ON THE SPOT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THE RALLY IS, IS PROTECTED AND, AND IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING HERE ABOUT THE FULL FINANCING OR, OR OTHER MATTERS ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF ONE, EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY, UH, BECAUSE I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
I UNDERSTAND, AND I WILL RELAY, BUT I WANNA BE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
CURRENTLY THESE BUILDINGS HAVE ACTIVE BUILDING PERMITS AND THE RICHMOND, THE SOUTH SEAS, THEY'VE ALL BEEN SECURE.
SO THEY'RE SECURED WITH SHORING A SHORING PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE IN THE WIND READY TO FALL, COME DOWN.
NO, NO, NOBODY'S, AND THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN, THE SALES CENTER IS OPEN, I CAN TELL YOU.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE SINCE YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU PROVIDE ASSURANCES THAT THE SHORING AND THE BRACING OF ALL HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF THE WALLS AND, AND YOU KNOW, OF THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS SUFFICIENT TO PROTECT THESE HISTORIC ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
THE, THE CITY HAS ENGINEERS REPORTS TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.
BOTH THE RICHMOND AND SOUTHEAST RIGHT NOW ARE UNDER THE 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATION.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON TOP OF ALBERT, EVEN THOUGH MOST 90% OF IT WAS DEMOLISHED, THE PORTION OF REMAIN WILL REQUIRE THESE BUILDINGS WHEN THEY'RE UP FOR TCO TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATION FOR THE PORTIONS THAT REMAIN.
SO WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING, WORKING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON CONFIRMING THAT THE CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDINGS AND, AND THE SAFETY CERTIFIED BY ENGINEERS.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I'M AN ATTORNEY.
UH, AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED ON EVERY SIX MONTHS TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALSO, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT ENGINEERS HAVE PROVIDED REPORTS TO THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE BRACING, UM, OF, OF, OF THE RICHMOND AND, AND THE SOUTH SEA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT ARE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THAT SHORING EMBRACING FAIL, YOU
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KNOW, THAT THE PRESUMPTION UNDER THE CODE IS THAT THERE IS REPLICATION.AND I HOPE THAT WE DON'T GET TO THAT CONVERSATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS UNDERSTOOD.
MR. CHAIR, I FULLY, AND I UNDERSTAND MY CLIENT 100% UNDERSTANDS THIS, THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY BEEN ENTITLED BUILDING PERMITS CONTINGENT ON THOSE PORTIONS REMAINING, INCLUDING THE RALEIGH.
SO THE LOOK OF THE UNDERSTOOD, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S WORK GOING ON, BUT THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THIS SITE HAS BEEN FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME IS VERY CONCERNING.
UH, AND RESPECTFULLY, A LOT OF LARGE SCALE PROJECTS TAKE TIME AND THEY'RE NOT DONE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE ALSO DEAL WITH THE MARKET.
AND ANYWAY, THIS PROOF, THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS APPROVED WHEN THE STATE ALLOWED DURING COVID ACTUAL HEARINGS.
SO THAT IN ITSELF TOOK SOME TIME.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE RALEIGH ITSELF PRIOR OWNERSHIP BY MR. SCHAU AND HIS ENTITIES HAD BEEN FOR YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS, HAD A BUILDING PERMIT UNDER I THINK TOMMY HUFFING PREVIOUS OWNERS.
SO A LOT OF TIMES, AND THIS HAPPENS WHEN A BUT JUST UNDERSTAND WHEN A LARGE SITE LIKE THIS MM-HMM
STAYS EMPTY FOR SUCH A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME, THE DEPRESSION THAT IT BRINGS TO THE AREA, WE SEE THAT THIS IS WHY WE'RE SO CONCERNED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN NORTH BEACH WITH A DEVILLE, IT'S SUCH A BIG SPACE AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS, NOT ONLY TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF, OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT TO THE ECONOMY AND THE ABILITY OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES TO PROSPER IS AFFECTED BY IT.
THE SAME HAPPENS, HAPPENS HERE.
I NEED TO KNOW MR. ATTORNEY BECAUSE, AND I APPRECIATE ALFREDO BEING HERE TODAY IN REPRESENTATION OF HIS CLIENT TELLING US WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
AND WE CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
LET'S SAY CONSTRUCTION STOPS TO TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE, UM, ON THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THIS CONTINUE TO BE DELAYED? UM, TWO THINGS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ONE IS, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, BUILDING VIOLATIONS ALONG THE WAY, OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL COULD INTERVENE AS AN ENFORCEMENT MATTER.
AND THE SECOND IS, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS DEVELOPER THAT INVOLVED A VACATION OF THE, OF THE ALTON COURT RIGHT OF WAY.
I DON'T, I NEED TO REVIEW THAT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY, ANY RECOURSE UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
BUT, BUT OTHERWISE, WE WANNA SEE PEOPLE SUCCEED AND WE NEED THEM TO SUCCEED.
BUT WE ALSO NEED TO PROTECT OUR CITY, THE INTERESTS OF OUR ECONOMY, AND WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR HISTORIC ASSETS.
THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE IDENTIFY WITH OUR CITY.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE IMAGE OF OUR CITY AND THIS IS THE ECONOMY OF OUR, OF OUR CITY.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, TO SET UP ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFINGS WITH US TO, UH, SHARE ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SHARE HERE PUBLICLY TODAY.
UNDERSTANDING THAT I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK IN THE FUTURE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE PUBLICLY.
'CAUSE I THINK WHEN WE DON'T ANSWER CERTAIN QUESTIONS PUBLICLY, IT JUST RAISES MORE QUESTIONS TO THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO AVOID.
AND HAPPY TO MEET WITH EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY.
UH, WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM BEFORE US TODAY, FEEL FREE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.
SEEING NONE IN PERSON, JANE KROPP, UH, ON ZOOM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
HI, I'M, YOU'VE BEEN JUST DISCUSSING, I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK.
UM, YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING ANOTHER ALBERT ANNIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANOTHER ALBERT ANNIS BUILDING THE WINTER HAVEN, WHICH I WAS CALLED OUT FOR.
UM, YOU ON YOUR LIST OF BUILT PROPERTIES, UH, THERE'S A BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM ON 15, 1500 COLLINS, WHICH IS THE BANCROFT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT ON YOUR LIST.
THE, UH, RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY SPENT MANY HOURS WITH A DEVELOPER NEGOTIATING THEIR CUPI BELIEVE THEY GOT PERMITS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOTHING.
SO, UH, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON YOUR LIST, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S SITTING THERE LANGUISHING, NO ACTION.
IT'S A MAJOR IMPORTANT HISTORIC PROPERTY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS NOT ON YOUR LIST.
SO, OF JUST, YOU KNOW, TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, WITH THAT PROPERTY.
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INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.AND I, AND I THINK, UH, I THINK, UH, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, UM, MR. MOONEY.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT WE'LL FIND OUT.
AND, AND IF THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE ITEM ABOUT THIS, WE CAN ALWAYS TRY TO INCORPORATE AN UPDATE AS PART OF THIS ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
I THINK, UH, WITH THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NEXT MONTH AND WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO WELCOME MR. GONZALEZ FOR HIS UPDATES.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK NEXT MONTH.
AND WITH THAT, UM, WE, LET'S, LET'S BRING
[18. DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE PRIVATE PORTION OF THE OCEAN TERRACE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT]
UP, UH, OCEAN TERRACE, MR. DIRECTOR.UM, AND THIS IS A DISCUSS, UH, UH, TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE PRIVATE PORTION OF THE OCEAN TERRACE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BOT, UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS COME ONLINE, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT SANDOR SHERA IS HERE LIVE IN THE FLESH TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UM, THE PARK LOOKS LIKE IT'S GETTING READY TO OPEN ANY MINUTE AND THAT THAT WILL BE A NICE CHANGE TO HAVE THAT BACK UP AND RUNNING.
BUT WE'RE REALLY EAGER TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, UM, BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, BOTH ON OCEAN TERRACE AND ON COLLINS.
UM, I, I KNOW WE HAVE OUR FABULOUS STAFF HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, BUT ALSO SANDOR AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS LAST SPRING, I GUESS, UM, ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS, AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BOTH OF YOU AND, UM, EAGERLY AWAIT TO LEARN WHAT I CAN LEARN.
AND I, I THINK YOU'RE MORE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM SANDRA THAN FROM ME.
UM, I THINK YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT THE PROJECT, UH, BUT MAYBE JUST TO LEAD OFF WITH THE FACT WE, UM, ARE IN THE FINAL STRETCH, UH, OF FINISHING THE PARK, WHICH, UM, IS GONNA BE A REALLY SPECTACULAR AMENITY FOR THE CITY OF MY BEACH.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT WILL, UM, COST US CLOSE TO $20 MILLION, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WE PROFFERED AT THE TIME.
BUT, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A REALLY WORLD CLASS AMENITY FOR THE CITY.
UM, WE THINK IT WILL BE, WE THINK IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE TALKED ABOUT ALL OVER THE GLOBE IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF IT.
WE HAVE THE, THE ARTWORK, INSTALLATION COMMENCING, UM, BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ARTWORK FROM PRUNE NORI, WHO'S A WORLD RENOWNED ARTIST.
UM, SHE'S DOING AN AMAZING PIECE.
UM, SO, BUT I WOULD, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN IT COME TOGETHER AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY VERY EXCITING.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UM, ANTICIPATED DATE OF OPENING? UH, WE'RE ABOUT 60 DAYS AWAY RIGHT NOW FROM THE, UH, PHASE ONE OF THE PARK, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ALL OF THE AREA OF THE PARK THAT ISN'T, UH, ISN'T GONNA BE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH WE NEED TO USE TO CONSTRUCT OUR PROPERTIES.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE TURNOVER OF THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY'S, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DEPARTMENT IS GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARDS AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE MAINTENANCE PLANS AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.
IF THERE ARE DEFECTS, IF EVERYTHING'S THERE, WHATEVER OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR HAS TO FIX, YOU KNOW, THE NORMAL TURNOVER PROCESS, GETTING THE METERS INSTALLED, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS TO PERMANENT AND LIGHTING.
IT'S REALLY ALL COMING TOGETHER BEAUTIFULLY.
SO, DAVID, DO YOU THINK BY MAY 1ST THAT PARK WILL BE OPEN OR THE, THE PARTS THAT ARE READY TO BECOME OPEN? YES, MA'AM.
IT LOOKS, THEY'RE ON, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ON SCHEDULE.
SO LET'S TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE MAYDAY IN A PARK LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HOPE.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK, EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, IS IT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IM IMPACTFUL FOR US.
WE WANT TO, WE WANNA GET IT DONE.
SO NOW TELL US ABOUT THE BUILDINGS.
UH, SO IN THE BUILDINGS, I THINK, I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF YOU PROBABLY, UH, HEARD OR READ, BUT WE, UM, JUST, UH, ENTERED INTO A, A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, THE WITKOFF, WHICH ARE, UM, ONE OF THE MOST WORLD RENOWNED DEVELOPERS, UM, UM, IN THE COUNTRY.
AND, AND CERTAINLY HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK ON MIAMI BEACH IN THE PAST.
UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A GREAT LAUNCHING POINT FOR US TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A TREMENDOUS TEAM WORKING ON THE DESIGNS AND THE PLANS, UM, REALLY COMING TOGETHER BEAUTIFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HISTORIC HOTEL, FOR THE RESIDENCES, FOR THE AMENITIES.
UM, ALL OF THAT'S COMING TOGETHER REALLY, REALLY WELL.
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IS THERE AN INTENTION WITH A NEW PARTNER? DO THEY HAVE ANY DESIRES TO CHANGE THE FUNDAMENTAL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT? THAT, THAT WAS THE, ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GENERALLY ALIGNED WITH US ON, ON EVERYTHING.SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD APPROVAL, AND WE PLAN TO BE WORKING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF OF NOT DOING THAT WOULD BE TIME.
AND WE DON'T REALLY WANNA SPEND ANY MORE TIME THAN WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR EXISTING HPV APPROVAL AND, AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THAT.
SO CAN YOU GIVE ME A SENSE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THAT TO BE A THRIVING HUB ON BOTH SIDES, BOTH THE BEACH SIDE AND, AND THE, UM, COLLINS AVENUE SIDE.
BUT ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY IS THAT BECAUSE IT HAS TAKEN SO MUCH TIME, WE'VE ACTUALLY LOST SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, THE FACADES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT.
UM, HOW ARE WE DOING ON PROTECTING THE EXISTING, THE REMAINING FACADES, UM, MAKING THEM LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THEY LOOK, SHORING THEM UP FOR THE MULTIPLE STORM SEASONS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH BEFORE THIS ALL GETS BUILT OUT.
HOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA HAVE HAPPEN, I'M SURE YOU DON'T EITHER.
THIS IS, WOULD NOT BE, UM, INTENTIONAL, OBVIOUSLY, BUT FOR THIS WHOLE THING TO TAKE SO MUCH LONGER THAN ANYBODY ANTICIPATED THAT WE LOSE ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT.
YEAH, I, I, WE HAVE, UH, NO ISSUES WITH, WITH ANY OF OUR BUILDINGS FROM A STRUCTURAL PERSPECTIVE THAT, THAT, THAT ARE OF IMMINENT COLLAPSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
EVERYTHING'S, YOU KNOW, UM, WE JUST SPENT, UH, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE BROADWATER AND THE OCEAN SURF ON, YOU KNOW, REMEDIATION, CONCRETE RESTORATION.
UM, THE RETAIL BUILDINGS ARE ALL OCCUPIED.
WE HAVE A JUST HAVE A NEW YOGA STUDIO THAT MOVED IN AND THERE'S A GREAT, UM, A GREAT, UH, BAKERY THAT'S, THAT'S DOING WELL THERE.
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO PATRONIZE IT.
UM, SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THEIR BUILDING CONDITION AND WE OKAY, SO THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THAT? NO.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S COLLAPSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE TIMEFRAME? SO, UH, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THESE PROJECTS, THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO, UH, SELL CONDOS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE, HOW YOU PROCURE THE FINANCING TO ACTUALLY GET THE PROJECT DONE.
SO WE HAVE TO START THAT PROCESS, AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO DOING THAT.
WHERE'S THE SALES OFFICE GONNA BE? UH, TEMPORARILY WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE THE LOBBY OF ONE OF THE EXISTING HOTELS.
UH, AND THEN A LONGER TERM, WE HAVE A, UH, SALES TRAILER THAT'S GONNA BE LO LOCATED JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE BROADMOOR.
SO TIMEFRAME, FOUR YEARS, 10 YEARS, 40 YEARS IN OUR LIFETIMES.
WELL, IF IT'S 40 YEARS, YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S 10 YEARS, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO, IS TO START CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT, UH, 18 MONTHS, UH, 24 MONTHS, UH, IF NOT SOONER.
IT REALLY IS PREDICATED ON SALES.
THAT'S THE WAY THESE THINGS WORK, IS YOU HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO SELL, THEN YOU HAVE TO SELL ENOUGH TO THEN GET A, A CONSTRUCTION LOAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE HARBINGER OF HOW THIS WORKS.
AND, UM, I, I'M SORRY IF I FORGOT THIS, UM, HOTEL FLAG, DO YOU HAVE THAT SORTED OUT? UH, WE DON'T, WE'RE, WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A, WITH A WORLD CLASS GLOBAL HOTEL BRAND.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT FINALIZED AND I, I WOULDN'T, SO I WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WE COULD TALK PRIVATELY IF YOU WANT IT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING TO, TO THE AREA.
IT'S, UH, IT'S GONNA BE SPECTACULAR.
AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THE, THE PARK IS COMING OUT.
I REALLY, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW GREAT, UH, UH, THE CITY STAFF HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DAVID AND, AND, AND DAVID AND, UH, CARLA AT CIP.
EVERYBODY'S BEEN, BEEN REALLY GREAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE FINAL STRETCH NOW AND, AND, UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL ALL BE UP THERE FOR, UH, CEREMONY VERY SOON.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME FROM YOUR DAY AND BEING PATIENT WITH US TO COME IN AND TALK IN PERSON.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC, AND SO I'M GLAD.
UM, CAN WE, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS IS, IS, ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE IN PERSON, ANY ON ZOOM? SEEING NONE IN ZOOM, I THINK WE CAN, UH, CLOSE THIS ITEM.
[9. DISCUSS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CONSENT AGENDA FOR LAND USE BOARD MEETINGS]
DIRECTOR, LET'S INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER NINE.ITEM NUMBER NINE IS DISCUSS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CONSENT AGENDA FOR LAND USE BOARD MEETINGS.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS AN ITEM BEING SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.
UM, MR. DIRECTOR, DID UM, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OR ARE YOU GONNA PRESENT ON HIS BEHALF? HE ASKED IF I COULD
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FIRST, UH, WE, HI GUYS.UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DISCUSSING YOUR, YOUR ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDAS FOR, FOR LAND USE, UH, BOARD MEETINGS.
WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO PRESENT THIS ITEM, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? TOM, IF YOU COULD TAKE IT AWAY, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, MR. SUAREZ, UM, THIS ITEM, AS THE COMMITTEE MAY RECALL, WAS DISCUSSED AT THE DECEMBER 17TH, 2024 MEETING.
UM, AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO CONTINUE IT TO, UM, A FUTURE DATE, UH, WITH THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DEVELOP LDR TEXT THAT WOULD CODIFY A PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING OVER THE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT ON AN AD NEEDED BA ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, A CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE CITY'S LAND USE BOARDS.
AND SO WITHIN THE MEMO, UM, IS A POTENTIAL AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE ONE REGARDING LAND USE BOARDS AND UNDER PROCEDURES.
UM, WE'VE CREATED A CONSENT TO AGENDA PROCESS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE'VE APPLIED THESE IN THE PAST.
UM, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THIS, UM, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS LDR AMENDMENT.
AND IF THERE IS CONSENSUS ON THIS, THEN THE COMMISSION, THE LAND USE COMMITTEE CAN VOTE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION REFER A DRAFT ORDINANCE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO WITH THIS ITEM, UM, RIGHT NOW, LAND USE BOARDS, SO LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
THEY COULD HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND SO, AND, AND, AND WHO DETERMINES TODAY UNDER THEIR CURRENT PRACTICES, WHETHER THEY HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA OR NOT, UH, STAFF, STAFF BASED UPON THE LENGTH OF THE AGENDA AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CRITERIA COULD BE MET.
AND THIS ITEM DOES NOT DICTATE THAT THERE BE A CONSENT AGENDA.
IT JUST FORMALIZES THE ABILITY FOR STAFF TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND LET'S SAY, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IN THE, IN THE AUTONOMY AND THE INDEPENDENCE OF, OF, OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
AND SO LET'S SAY MR. ATTORNEY, IF THE, IF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR PUTS A CONSENT AGENDA, BUT THE BOARD DECIDES TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH AND THE, AND THE BOARD DOESN'T DESIRE TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA, DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE NOT TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA? THE, UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA WOULD OPERATE LIKE MUCH LIKE IT DOES FOR THE CITY COMMISSION, WHERE ONE MEMBER COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO PULL THIS ITEM FOR, FOR DISCUSSION IF I, AND, AND THAT I UNDERSTAND.
HOWEVER, LET'S SAY THE BOARD DOESN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A CONSENT AGENDA AND PULLING AN ITEM FROM A CONSENT AGENDA IS SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL.
UM, AND SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY A BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
CAN THEY VOTE TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN POSITION TO NOT HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA? YES.
AND THAT'S IN THE CURRENT PRACTICE, THEY RIGHT.
THEY, THEY, AND HOW ABOUT IN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION? THIS WOULD CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR, FOR THE BOARDS TO, TO, TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT NO, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAY ESTABLISH A CONSENT, A A CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT CAN THE BOARD DECIDE ON ITS OWN? DOES THIS, DOES THIS, UM, LEGISLATION ALLOW THE BOARD ON ITS OWN, INDEPENDENT OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT WANTS TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA? YES, IT DOES.
WHERE IN THIS LEGISLATION DOES IT SAY, THEN I GIVE YOU A SECTION, I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST STEPPED AWAY FOR THIS FOR A MOMENT.
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SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT B TWO YEAH.
THE, UH, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FOR THE, THE A BOARD TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA IS THAT ALL VOTING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD PRESENT AT THE MEETING SHALL AGREE TO FOREGO
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A PRESENTATION.SO IMPLIED IN THAT IS THAT, UH, THAT THE BOARD BY, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD HAVE TO BY ACCLIMATION, UM, AGREE TO, TO, TO HAVING A CONSENT AGENDA.
SO, SO, SO A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER CAN MAKE A MOTION TO SAY, LISTEN, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD BE HAVING A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THEY CAN MAKE A MOTION AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MOVE THAT, THAT THIS PLANNING BOARD NOT HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THAT WE, THAT EACH ITEM BE ITS OWN STANDING ITEM YES.
AS THE REGULAR ORDER FOR EVERY MEETING.
COMMISSIONER BA SO WOULD THEY HAVE TO DO THAT AT EVERY MEETING OR JUST ONCE FOR THAT? EXCUSE ME FOR THAT IMP PANELED, IT WOULD BE, UH, IF THERE IS A MEETING WHERE A CONSENT AGENDA IS PRESENTED, THEN THE BOARD, ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD PRESENT WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO FORGO A PRESENTATION AND OR QUESTIONS AT EVERY MEETING.
THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THAT AT EVERY MEETING.
I'M GETTING CONFLICTING CONSENT AGENDA.
I'M GETTING THAT CONFLICTING INFORMATION.
I'M GETTING ONE OPINION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ONE OPINION FROM THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
I THINK, UM, I THINK IF EITHER THE SPONSOR OR THE COMMITTEE HAS A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THAT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGISLATION IS CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I THINK I'M, I'M FINE WITH, WITH BOARD AND COMMITTEES HAVING CONSENT AGENDA.
I'M FINE WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR BEING ABLE TO RECOMMEND THAT THEY HAVE ONE.
BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE CHAIR OF, OF THOSE BOARD AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO DECIDE DO WE WANT, AS AN ORDER OF BUSINESS TO HAVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA OR NOT.
UH, AND SO, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED IN HERE IS THE ABILITY FOR, UM, FOR EACH, EACH BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT, YOU KNOW, LET THEM MAKE A MOTION AND BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HASN'T RECOMMENDED THIS, BUT WE WANNA HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA OR LET THEM MAKE A MOTION AND SAY, LISTEN, EVERY MONTH WE'RE GETTING A CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE PROVING THINGS 'CAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO PULL IT.
YOU KNOW, I, LET'S, I WANT US TO HAVE JUST THE ABILITY JUST NOT TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA AND EACH ITEM BE TREATED AS ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION ITEM.
SO IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE THAT IN HERE, I'LL, I'LL BE COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THIS, UM, THE WAY THE THINGS ARE SET UP.
NOW, A, A LAND USE BOARD CAN DO THIS ALREADY.
WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST WHERE THEY, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN SO LENGTHY THAT IF APPLICANTS, BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS AN APPLICANT HAS TO AGREE TO ALL THE, THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER, AND THEY HAVE TO AGREE THAT THEY WOULD BE OKAY NOT MAKING A PRESENTATION.
IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO THAT, THEN WE CAN LIST THAT ITEM ON A DRAFT CONSENT AGENDA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE BOARD WOULD THEN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND IF ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD SAYS, NO, I I WANT A PRESENTATION FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS, THEN THERE'S NO CONSENT AGENDA AND EVERY ITEM IS HEARD, UH, IN ITS NORMAL ORDER.
SO IF THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, WHAT'S, WHY DO WE NEED THIS? THE DIRECTION OF LAND USE IN DECEMBER WAS TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO CODIFY THAT PROCEDURE IN THE LDRS.
SO THIS ISN'T DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT, THIS IS JUST MAKING IT CONSISTENT.
IT'S BASICALLY CODIFYING WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PRACTICE.
I MEAN, JUST IN PRINCIPLE, I, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF TIMES ON PLANNING BOARD AND A SMALL THROWAWAY LINE AS PART OF A CONVERSATION OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW SET OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.
UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE.
AND AS COMMISSIONERS, WE RELY ON THE LAND USE BOARDS TO VET A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE THEIR GUIDANCE, UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE A A CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD TO VET IT.
AND SO MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING IS THAT THAT WOULD START TO ERODE THAT FUNCTION.
UM, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT ALL THESE, I MEAN, I CAN'T, WE WERE ONLY ON THE PLANNING BOARD TOGETHER FOR NINE MONTHS OR SOMETHING, BUT EVEN SO HOW MANY TIMES DID THE COURSE OF A CONVERSATION LEAD INTO A WHOLE NEW DIRECTION WHERE WE UNCOVERED LIKE, WHAT YOU CAN'T BE DOING THAT, THAT'S NOT A THING THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BE DOING.
THAT WAS, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT STUFF GOING ON,
UM, AND SO I, I WORRY THAT THIS EMPHASIS ON STREAMLINING THINGS ELIMINATES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THINGS TO COME TO LIGHT.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DAS ON THIS ITEM?
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NO.UH, ARE, LET ME OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO, TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE, AND PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, ELIZABETH.
OH, I THINK WE JUST LOST ELIZABETH.
I GUESS ELIZABETH DOESN'T WANNA SPEAK ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? OH, ELIZABETH, YOUR HAND IS BACK UP.
YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
YOU GUYS DIDN'T UNMUTE ME THE FIRST TIME.
UM, SO I, I, I, I'M NOT A FAN OF THIS.
UM, AND AS TO COMMISSIONER BOT'S POINT, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE, THAT NEED TO BE HEARD AND I'M NOT, I'M AFRAID SOMETHING'S GONNA GET SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS AND IT'LL COME BACK ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR NOT HAVING HEARD IT.
I APPRECIATE STREAMLINING, STREAMLINING EVERYTHING, BUT NOT IN THIS CASE.
SO I, I JUST WANNA VOICE MY DIS HERE.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
UM, AND WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE IT, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ? WANNA COMMENT? COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
YOUR COLLEAGUE, VICE MAYOR TANYA KBO IS INQUIRING WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT.
YEAH, LISTEN GUYS, I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, STREAMLINE SOME OF THE PROCESSES ON OUR, ON OUR LAND USE BOARDS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, LEMME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK.
IS THERE A MOTION BEFORE US? I'M FINE SUPPORTING THE, THE, THE ITEM BECAUSE IT JUST CODIFIES EXISTING PRACTICE.
BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF A MOTION, WHAT HAPPENS, UH, MR. ATTORNEY IN THE ABSENCE OF A MOTION? IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD, WELL, I THINK IT WOULD REMAIN IN COMMITTEE.
AND AS THE CHAIR, I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CAN PASS THE GAVEL.
AND SO I PASS THE GAVEL AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF, TO ACCEPT, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA JUST WAIT TILL THE NEXT, UM, LANDY MEETING, I CAN JUST OPEN AND CONTINUE UNTIL THEN.
I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I GUESS, UH, IF, IF THIS, IF, IF THE AMENDMENT WERE, WERE, WERE PUT IN HAVING TO DO WITH THE COMMITTEE, WITH THE BOARD, EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD BEING ABLE TO MAKE ITS OWN DECISION, WE AS A BOARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR AGREE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA, OR WE AS A BOARD AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA FOR, FOR, FOR THE NEXT YEAR, OR WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CHAIR.
UM, SO MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF, OF THE NEW YEAR FOR A, A, UM, A BOARD, THEY MIGHT THINK IN PRINCIPLE, OH, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT'LL MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCE.
KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES, ESPECIALLY ON, IN THOSE YEARS WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER ON A BOARD.
AND SO PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD THE, SO LET'S DEFER THE ITEM.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM? I'LL DEFER.
SO LET'S SHOW THE ITEM DEFERRED, UH, TO THE NEXT MEETING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.
[10. DISCUSS POTENTIALLY REQUIRING COMMERCIAL CHARTER VESSEL OPERATORS TO PROVIDE SANITATION/PUMP-OUT LOGS EVIDENCING COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE SANITATION LAWS.]
LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 10.ITEM NUMBER 10 IS DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY REQUIRING COMMERCIAL CHARTER VESSEL OPERATORS TO PROVIDE SANITATION, PUMP OUT LOGS EVIDENCING COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE SANITATION LAWS.
COMMISSIONER
YOU'RE WELCOME TO PRESENT YOUR ITEM.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE OPERATING A VESSEL, HI GUYS.
UM, UH, IF YOU'RE OPERATING COMMERCIAL VESSEL, UM, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, FOR YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO ASK FOR PROOF OF PEOPLE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW.
UH, AND I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS, NOT, I THINK, BUT THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THE GOOD OPERATORS ARE ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS AND THE BAD OPERATORS ARE WEED OUT.
AND THIS, THIS STARTED, UM, QUITE SOME TIME AGO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE US COLLECTIVELY MORE TOOLS TO WEED OUT THE LOUSY
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OPERATORS.SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY A YEAR SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION.
SO TELL US IN A YEAR, HOW ARE THINGS GOING? DO WE NEED THIS? IS THIS STILL USEFUL? 'CAUSE IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY, THEN THAT'S A VALID CONVERSATION AS WELL.
BUT IF IT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT'S USEFUL, TALK TO US.
UH, MADAM VICE MAYOR, MR. CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER, EVERYONE, UH, PRESENT AT
I AM MAJOR JEVON CAMPBELL OF THE MIAMI BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M THE DIVISION COMMANDER OF OUR PATROL DIVISION.
I'M FORTUNATE TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY OUR MARINE PATROL UNIT COMMANDER AND MID BEACH COMMANDER, CAPTAIN LOUIS SANCHEZ AND MARINE PATROL UNIT SERGEANT JAVIER FERNANDEZ AND MARINE PATROL EXPERT OFFICER TOMMY OW, WHO WOULD DO, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TALKING POINTS IN THIS, UH, ITEM HERE.
UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OFFICER FOW, 'CAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT DOES THE MAJORITY OF THE ENFORCE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE DEPEND ON THAT'S, UH, RELATED TO THIS.
AND THEN, UM, FROM AN INSPECTION STANDPOINT, AND WE ARE HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE TO MAKE THE END GO, UH, COME TO FRUITION.
SO WITH THAT OFFICER AU WELCOME OFFICER, IS THIS ON? YES.
UH, I'M AN OFFICER WITH THE MARINE PATROL UNIT, UH, AND I'M THE DERELICT VESSEL INVESTIGATOR.
UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE MARINE SANITATION DEVICE, UH, FLORIDA STATUTE, UM, HOW WE CURRENTLY USE IT, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS TO, UM, HOW WE COULD USE IT WITH, UH, CHARTER VESSELS AND M MS. D.
SO, FOR STARTERS, I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, HOW THE STATE STATUTE READS.
UH, ANY VESSEL OVER 26 FEET THAT HAS A, A CABIN MEANING, UH, LIKE A ROOM OR LIKE A BEDROOM OR A LIVING QUARTERS, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A WORKING TOILET ON THE VESSEL.
UM, THAT WORKING TOILET, UH, HAS TO BE CONNECTED TO A, UH, A HOLDING TANK.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO HAVE A PORTABLE TOILET ON THE VESSEL.
UM, THOSE, THE, HOW I WANNA SAY THIS, THE, UH, THE HOLDING TANK HAS TO BE PUMPED OUT AT A, UM, AN OFFICIAL PUMP OUT STATION.
UM, AND THE, THE SAME GOES WITH THE, UM, THE TEMPORARY TANK, OR THE, I'M SORRY, THE TEMPORARY, UH, PORTABLE, UH, TOILET.
SO, UM, THE WAY THAT WE, THE WAY THAT WE CURRENTLY ENFORCE THAT IS I'M THE DERELICT VESSEL INVESTIGATOR.
SO PART OF MY JOB IS TO GO OUT THERE AND DO RANDOM CHECKS ON THE VESSELS THAT ARE ANCHORED WITHIN OUR CITY.
UM, I'LL MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE VESSEL.
UM, PART OF MY ENFORCEMENT IS TO, UH, CHECK FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT, UH, TO SEE IF THE VESSEL IS AT RISK, IF IT'S RELIC.
AND, UM, I WILL GET INTO THE MARINE SANITATION DEVICE.
SO, UM, I'LL CHECK TO SEE IF I'LL, I'LL CHECK IT ONE OF TWO WAYS.
I'LL EITHER CHECK TO SEE IF THE VALVE IS, THERE'S A Y VALVE.
IF THAT Y VALVE IS, IS LOCKED AND SECURED, UM, THEN THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE A WORKING TOILET AT ALL, THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
IF I PUT A, UM, UH, A DYE CAPSULE INTO THE TOILET, FLUSH THE TOILET, AND THAT INK COMES OUT THE SIDE OF THE VESSEL, THEY'RE OUTTA COMPLIANCE.
SO, UM, THE, THE FINE IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS FINE AND, UM, THAT THAT'S HOW WE CURRENTLY, UM, EN ENFORCE THE MARINE SANITATION DEVICE.
IT, NICK, ARE WE ABLE TO INCREASE THE FINES? THAT SEEMS PRETTY LOW.
A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR VIOLATION? I THINK THAT FINE IS SET BY STATE STATUTE, RIGHT? I, YES, I'M PRETTY SURE.
SO, SO WE CAN'T INCREASE THAT.
UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE A CHARTER VESSEL? LIKE IF YOU'RE A CHARTER VESSEL AND YOU'RE DOING MULTIPLE RUNS IN A DAY, SO LET'S SAY YOU BOOK SIX CHARTERS OVER THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE DAY ARE, ARE CHARTER VESSELS REQUIRED TO PUMP OUT BETWEEN EACH PAY SET OF PAYING CUSTOMERS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? 'CAUSE I JUST HAVE VISIONS OF, YOU KNOW, CHARTER, UH, VESSELS ON TRIP NUMBER FIVE AND EVERYONE'S HAD A BIG DAY OUT ON THE WATER AND IT'S JUST DISASTROUS.
DO WE HAVE, THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS, UH, ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE, THE HOLDING TANK GETS FULL, IT'S ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE VESSEL NEEDS, NEEDS FUEL.
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WHEN THESE VESSELS ARE AT THE FUEL DOCKS, THAT'S USUALLY WHEN THEY'RE GETTING PUMPED OUT.UM, THE HOLDING TANKS, UH, VARIES BETWEEN THE SIZE OF THE VESSEL.
SO LIKE A 55 FOOT CHARTER BOAT, WHICH IS YOUR RUN OF THE MILL, UH, CHARTER BOAT, THAT THING HAS A HOLDING TANK OF, OF ABOUT 200 GALLONS.
SO WHEN THAT VESSEL GOES IN TO GET FUEL, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT TYPICALLY GETS PUMPED OUT.
BUT THAT'S NOT, LIKE, WHAT IF YOU HAD AN EXTRA LARGE FUEL TANK, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE TRUCKS AND THEY PUT IN AN EXTRA FUEL TANK SO THEY CAN GAS UP 70 GALLONS AT A TIME AND NOT A, SO WHAT IF A BOAT HAS THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE ON A BOAT, BUT WHAT IF A BOAT DOES, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, AND SO THEY DON'T NEED TO GAS UP, BUT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, OVERFLOWING TOILETS.
I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT A THING THAT YOU GUYS SEE? IS IT, I MEAN, IS THIS A CONCERN THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE DON DON'T, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN BECAUSE, UH, WE TAKE PUMPING, UM, SEWAGE OUT IN THE BAY.
UH, SO, UM, THE THING IS WE HAVE TO SEE IT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE, UM, TO, TO ENFORCE THAT STATUTE.
UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UM, VESSELS OR CHARTER VESSELS UNDERWAY PUMPING OUT, UH, INTO THE, INTO THE BAY UNLESS YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE.
SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, UM, RESOURCES YOU BRING TO BEAR TO PROTECT THE BAY, UM, FROM IRRESPONSIBLE BOATING MM-HMM
IS THIS PARTICULAR AVENUE WORTH PURSUING IN YOUR VIEW? UH, SURE.
UM, THE MORE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, UM, BETTER FOR US.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL SAY IS AS FAR AS DOING RANDOM CHECKS ON VESSELS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, UH, THE GOVERNOR IS CURRENTLY PUSHING FORWARD LEGISLATION TO, UH, TO, BASICALLY, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S, WE DO NOT NEED PROBABLE CAUSE TO STOP A VESSEL TO DO A SAFETY CHECK.
UM, BUT WE, UM, WE LIKE TO HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO STOP ANYBODY WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, BUT THE GOVERNOR IS CURRENTLY MAKING IT, UM, OR OR PUSHING LEGISLATION FORWARD TO, UM, TO HAVE THE SAME SET OF RULES THAT WE HAVE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN YOUR CAR, UM, PERTAIN OUT ON THE WATER.
SO WE WOULD NEED A REASON TO STOP YOU.
THE WAY MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS, UNLESS YOUR, YOUR BOAT'S LITERALLY ON FIRE, WE HAVE NO RECOURSE, RIGHT? LIKE, WE JUST HAVE NO REASON TO STOP ANYBODY IF HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS.
UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO THAT ANYTIME SOMEBODY DOES GO INTO GAS UP THAT THEY DO HAVE TO EITHER PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO PUMP OUT OR THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY PUMPED OUT.
UH, SERGEANT JAVIER FERNANDEZ.
I THINK THE BEING ABLE TO KEEP A LOG BOOK WOULD MAYBE BE MORE WITH OUR CODE PARTNERS.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE SYNOPSIS OF WHAT IT IS WE DO, THE KIND OF ENFORCEMENT WE TAKE, AND SOME GOOD NEWS.
OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE MARINE PATROL UNIT HAS TAKEN A VERY AGGRESSIVE AND PROACTIVE APPROACH TO DEALING WITH CHARTERED VESSELS AND WITH NUISANCE, UH, COMPLAINTS.
WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LOUD NOISE, SPECIFICALLY COMING FROM THESE VOTES.
THE UNIT TAKES VERY PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IN REGARDS TO THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR LOUD MUSIC, AND ALSO WITH THAT THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY ORDINANCE, WHICH CARRIES A STIFFER PENALTY.
SO ANYTIME THE OFFICERS ARE UNDERWAY AND THEY ENCOUNTER ANY VESSEL, WHETHER HE'S, UH, CHARTERED OR JUST RECREATIONALLY OPERATING, IF THEY'RE A NUISANCE, IF THEY'RE, UH, EXCEEDING THE NOISE LIMIT, THEN THE OFFICERS KNOW TO ADDRESS THAT VESSEL.
SO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE LAST YEAR IS A LOT OF THESE VESSELS HAVE GONE UNDERWAY FROM MIAMI BEACH AND THEY'LL GO TO OTHER PLACES, KIND OF LIKE, UH, MARINE STADIUM, WHERE THE CITY OF MIAMI DOES THEIR ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL GO TO FISHER ISLAND, THEY'LL GO OFFSHORE.
UH, SOME OF THE BOATS THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR CITY AREN'T NECESSARILY BEING A NUISANCE TO US ANYMORE BECAUSE THE UNDERSTANDING AMONG THE BOATING COMMUNITY IS THAT IF YOU COME TO MIAMI BEACH AND YOU'RE A NUISANCE, YOU'RE GONNA BE DEALT WITH, UH, SWIFTLY BY THE MARINE PATROL UNIT.
SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE'LL HAVE STRAGGLERS THAT'LL COME THROUGH OUR CITY JUST 'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE RULES.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW WE OPERATE, BUT WE DO DEAL WITH THEM.
UM, AS OFFICER AUER SAID, ADDING THE TOOL FOR THE MSD CHECK, THAT'S A GREAT THING TO HAVE.
I THINK IF WE GET IN CONTACT WITH OUR CODE PARTNERS, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THEM MAYBE THE, THE CHARTERED VESSEL PRESENT SOME KIND OF A LOG WITH THE RECEIPTS THAT THOSE THINGS ARE BEING, UH, ADDRESSED.
BUT HE, HE DID GO TO MIAMI BEACH MARINA TODAY, AND, AND THE UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THEY ARE
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COMPLIANT WITH THE PUMP OUTS EVERY TIME THEY GO, AND THEY, AND THEY FEEL THEIR BOATS.SO DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, WITH A PLAN THAT YOU AND CODE HAVE WORKED OUT ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THAT, BRING THAT TO LIFE? ABSOLUTELY.
DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? SOUNDS GOOD.
I, AND I'M SORRY TO TAKE SO MUCH TIME ON THIS AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR WAITING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS A HOT TOPIC.
I'M DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OF STRICT ENFORCEMENT AND REALLY FOCUSED ATTENTION ON THIS HAS, HAS YIELDED GOOD RESULTS.
BUT IF WE HAVE ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOLKIT, EVEN IF WE NEVER HAVE TO USE IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NEXT CROP COMES THROUGH IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE EXPERIENCE, YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN WHIP OUT, UM, TO SAY, LOOK, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
AND YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, WITH, UH, WITH OUR LAWS.
SO NICK AND MADAM, VICE CHAIR, I'D ALSO LIKE, UM, WHEN THIS DOES COME BACK, I'D LIKE TO RESEARCH WHETHER WE COULD INCREASE THAT $100.
BECAUSE IF MAYBE THE STATE STATUTE IS A FLOOR AND WE CAN BE STRICT, I JUST WANT TO OKAY.
AND, UM, SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YES.
UH, MADAM VICE MAYOR, UH, RESPECTFULLY, CAN WE MAKE IT THREE MONTHS? UM, CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO BE INUNDATED WITH SPRING BREAK? NO.
AND ALSO, IF I MIGHT POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, OF COURSE, MAJOR CAMPBELL, YOU ALWAYS ASK ABOUT MY PARENTS.
YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT MY DAD IS CELEBRATING HIS 83RD BIRTHDAY TODAY AND, UM, WAS THRILLED WHEN I CALLED TO SING AT HIM BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S NOT A GIFT.
IF I SING AT YOU, IT'S NOT A GIFT.
UM, HE WAS ABOUT TO GO OUT FOR HIS 15 MILE BIKE RIDE IN, UM, A STATE NATIONAL PARK.
AND, UM, SO MAY WE ALL THRIVE AS WELL AS HE'S THRIVING.
SO I THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO THANK YOU.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, FATHER.
AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR, WE'LL ANCHOR THIS, UH, CONVERSATION FOR NOW.
BEFORE THIS, UH, COMMITTEE SHIPS AWAY FOR THERE YOU GO.
UM, BUT, UM, WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN MAY.
YOU WILL BRING IT BACK IN MAY.
UM, BEFORE WE, WE, WE END TODAY'S MEETING, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS WE DIDN'T REACH.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE.
[12. DISCUSS CREATING ECONOMIC AND ZONING INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSION OF EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS TO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IDEALLY EXPLORE NEW INCENTIVES (ECONOMIC OR OTHER) BEING USED IN OTHER STATES, RATHER THAN RELYING ON EXISTING OPTIONS WHICH WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO ENCOURAGE, SUCH AS FLOOR AREA RATIO (FAR) AND PARKING INCENTIVES, REDUCTIONS TO THE MOBILITY FEE, IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF AVAILABLE HOUSING IN MIAMI BEACH.]
BOND, YOU HAD THE, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSION OF OFFICE BUILDING TO RESIDENTIAL.WOULD, DO YOU STILL WANT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I DID WANT IT TO COME BACK TO SEE IF ANYTHING.
IF, IF ANYTHING HAD SORT OF POPPED UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY AND WHEN I READ IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY'S MEETING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANY NEW AWESOME IDEAS ARE OUT THERE, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
SO, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 12.
[14. DISCUSS SETTING PARAMETERS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO PRESENT CREATIVE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COMMISSION, AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO INVOKING THE PREEMPTIONS IN THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, TO ENCOURAGE LONG-TERM NON-TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT (INCLUDING WORKFORCE HOUSING) THAT IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.]
MAGAZINE HAS 14.COMMISSIONER BOB, DO YOU HAVE ITEM
[16. DISCUSS STRENGTHENING THE CITY’S GREEN PROCUREMENT POLICIES WITH REGARD TO SINGLE-USE PLASTIC FOOD SERVICE ARTICLES AND ENCOURAGE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVES, AND CONSIDER GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE, AS PART OF FUTURE CITY CONTRACTS, ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF SINGLE-USE PLASTICS AND COMMITMENTS TO USE ALTERNATIVE PRODUCTS.]
NUMBER 16 ON THE CITY SCREEN PROCUREMENT POLICIES? WOULD YOU LIKE THIS ITEM TO COME BACK? UH, NEXT MONTH? UM, WELL IN APRIL 'CAUSE I WON'T BE HERE YEAH.SO, UH, WE WILL LEAVE THIS FOR APRIL.
UM, LET'S SEE, I HAVE THE ITEM
[19. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS RELATING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH SIDEWALK MATERIAL/COLOR POLICY]
ON THE MAMIE BEACH RED FOR THE SIDEWALKS.[20. REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE AND RECOMMEND NEW, MORE FORWARDLEANING RESILIENCY CODE UPDATES FOR OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT.]
DO YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 20? UM, FORWARD-LEANING RESILIENCY FOR OUR BUILD ENVIRONMENT.I THINK THAT RELATES TO OUR RIGHT OF WAYS AND SWS.
WHAT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO WAS REALLY LIKE WHAT ARE THE LEADING EDGES OF THINGS THAT OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE DOING? OKAY.
DO YOU WANT THIS ITEM STILL TO REMAIN ON THE AGENDA OR, YEAH.
[21. DISCUSS REPLACING THE DRAWBRIDGE AT 63RD STREET WITH A FLYOVER TO ELEVATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.]
LAST ITEM, UH, WAS THE DRAW BRIDGE AT 63RD STREET, WHICH WE KNOW THAT THAT IS SUCH A SPECIAL AND UH, AND ENGAGING CONVERSATION.UM, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT ON OR WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I LOOK, I THINK I'M BECOMING BYE LAURA.
UM, I THINK I'M BECOMING THE PATRON, PATRON SAINT OF LOST CAUSES.
SO
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED IF WE HAVE, DO MORE WORK INTERNALLY BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.
UM, OR IF WE BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME MORE WORK.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO, TO READ THE MEMORANDUM.
REALLY TO MOVE FORWARD IS GONNA INVOLVE, UH, A LOT OF RESOURCES IN TERMS OF, WE, WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPROACH THE COAST GUARD OR FDOT FOR, FOR, FOR EVEN TO PRESENT OUR PLAN WITHOUT ANY KIND OF STUDIES OR ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S E EVEN LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, OVERPASS, UH, IT'S GONNA INVOLVE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE.
IT'S JUST GONNA, WILL THIS INVOLVE EMINENT DOMAIN? IT'S, IT'S KIND OF PREMATURE TO MAYBE SAY THAT.
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KNOW JOSE, UH, JOSE JUST WALKED IN.UH, BUT IT COULD INVOLVE A NEED FOR LAND, OBVIOUSLY THE EMINENT DOMAIN, AVENUE, AVENUE.
WELL, THIS'S ONLY WHEN, WELL, THIS A NEED FOR WHAT? SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT THAT CLOSELY.
IT'S CLEAR AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIR.
SO YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, I THINK SO.
I, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WAS X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR FEASIBILITY STUDY, TRAFFIC STUDY, ALL THAT STUFF, AND PRELIMINARY DESIGN BUILD.
I WANNA FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEED IS AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE BEFORE WE GO TO DESIGN BUILD.
BECAUSE WHAT I WANNA DO IS SCOUR THE WORLD, IF YOU WILL, FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN VERY TOUGH CIRCUMSTANCES AND LEARN FROM THAT.
SO WHAT SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE IN SOUTH FLORIDA OR THE SOUTHEAST OR THE US MAY OR MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE, MAY ACTUALLY NOT BE CORRECT.
THERE MAY BE BETTER WAYS OF DOING THINGS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR BACKYARD TO WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM? UM, 'CAUSE I HAVE A FEELING YOU'LL PROBABLY NEED MORE THAN JUST APRIL, MAY, APRIL, MAY, MAY SHOULD, EXCUSE ME.
SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT HOW TO BE REALLY PRECISE IN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE MONEY FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY IDEAS.
UM, BUT, SO LET'S TAKE THIS OFFLINE UNTIL MAY, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT OFFLINE FROM HERE, BRING IT BACK IN MAY, AND IN BETWEEN ALL OF US SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CHAT.
AND COMMISSIONER BOT IN YOUR FUTURE ITEMS, UM, IF THERE'S, LET ME SEE.
I DON'T THINK, ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN GETTING THROUGH YOUR ITEMS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING, UM, THAT'S REALLY BEING HELD.
NUMBER 48, THAT'S NUMBER 40 REVIEW, 46 REVIEW CURRENT LOADING REQUIREMENTS AND HOW TO MITIGATE IMPACTS OF LOADING AND DELIVERIES AND CONGESTION.
THAT WAS CONTINUED TO APRIL NUMBER 46 AND 48 WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING ON THE SPECIAL LAND USE MEETING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING.
AND YEAH, SO I THINK, UH, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BOND AND COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ FOR YOUR TIME.
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO, WHO PARTICIPATED AND TO STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR YOUR SUPPORT.