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GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE APRIL MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.UM, WE HAVE A FAIRLY SHORT AGENDA TODAY.
I AM SURE WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.
UM, WE DO HAVE ONE MEMBER ABSENT TODAY.
UM, BUT IT MEANS THAT FOR ANY VARIANCES THERE NEEDS TO BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
UM, LET ME START OFF BY TAKING ATTENDANCE AND I'LL DO A ROLL CALL FOR THAT.
AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT THE MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AN APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON, VIRTUAL OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR.
IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS A TOLL FREE NUMBER.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
AN INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISED HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE.
IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE NOW BEFORE US, I WILL SWEAR IN THOSE WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY.
I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST INFORMATION AND REGISTRATION.
IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IN THREE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES.
NUMBER ONE, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY, ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY.
NUMBER TWO, IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION.
NUMBER THREE, IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO SUPPRESS, TO, TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL STILL PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE C TO, TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF, ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.
IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.
UH, NOW IF EVERYONE WHO INTENDS TO TESTIFY TODAY, PLEASE STAND AND RA, UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, THEY'LL BE SWORN IN AT THE TIME OF THEIR TESTIMONY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE, THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING US PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
[1. After Action March 13, 2025]
LET US BEGIN WITH THE, UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY MS. LEWIN.
OKAY, I SEE THERE'S NO CONTINUANCES OR WITHDRAWALS.
[2. DRB24-1030, 8,9 & 10 CENTURY LANE.]
TO NEW APPLICATIONS.UM, DRB 24, 1 0 3, 0 8, 9, AND 10 CENTURY LANE.
THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOME, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS AND A VARI AND VARIANCES FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED REAR SETBACK FOR A SWIMMING POOL FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SITE STREET SETBACK AND FROM THE MAXIMUM LOAD AGGREGATION TO REPLACE EXISTING RESIDENCES.
OKAY, SO JUST, UH, FOR THE HISTORY ON APRIL 4TH, 2023, UH, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVED, UH, A PROJECT AT EIGHTH CENTURY LANE AND A PROJECT AT 10 CENTURY LANE, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH OF THOSE SITES.
UM, AND BUILDING PERMITS WERE NEVER ISSUED FOR, FOR THOSE APPROVALS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, NOW FILED A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, WHICH IS HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
UM, THE SITE, UH, IS IN THE, UH, IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELL ISLE.
UM, THE COMBINED LOT SIZE IS 10,229 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, UH, A FLOOR AREA OF 12,000, UH, 787, AND THAT IS SQUARE FEET,
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AND THAT IS AT 1.25.THAT IS THE MAXIMUM FAR ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT IN THE ARM ONE DISTRICT.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A HEIGHT OF 54 FEET, 11 INCHES, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE AREA IS 55 FEET.
UM, THE, UM, DESIGN, UH, THE APP, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AGGREGATE THREE PARCELS, EIGHT, NINE, AND 10 CENTURY LANE.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THAT.
I WILL, I WILL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT'S, UM, FIVE STORIES TALL, UH, ON THE SITE.
UM, IT ISN'T THE ARMED ONE DISTRICT, SO THIS HEIGHT LIMIT IS ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, THE RESIDENCE IS DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLED.
UM, IT HAS, UH, THE STAFF REPORT DESCRIBES IT AS A BRUTAL AS HAVING BRUTALIST INFLUENCES.
IT'S MORE OF A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN OF A HOME.
THERE ARE SOME MINOR BRUTALIST INFLUENCES, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY A CONTEMPORARY STYLED HOME.
UM, THE DESIGN IS VERY ADVANCED.
UM, THE MATERIALITY INCORPORATES, UH, DRAPING PLANTS, GREEN ROOFS, VOIDED SPACES, WHICH SOFTEN THE STRUCTURE, UM, AND, AND INTRODUCE SOME VISUAL INTEREST.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO DESIGN WAIVERS.
THE FIRST WAIVER PERTAINS TO THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
UM, THE MAXIMUM, UH, LOT COVERAGE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 45%, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, 50%.
GIVEN THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE LOT.
STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THAT VARIANT OF THAT, OF THAT WAIVER.
UM, AND IT DIDN'T, UM, UM, AND THE, THE IRREGULAR SHAPE AND THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT TO JUSTIFY THAT WAIVER REQUEST.
UM, THE OTHER WAIVER THAT THEY'RE REQUEST THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, UH, RELATES TO THE, UH, MINIMUM HEIGHT REQUIRED FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST STORY.
UM, THE CODE REQUIRES 12 FEET ABOVE THE DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION.
HOWEVER, IT, THE CODE DOES ALLOW THE DRB TO WAVE TWO FEET.
SO THEY'RE REDUCING THAT TO 10 FEET, UM, ABOVE THE DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION.
SO THAT'S NOT FROM GRADE, THAT'S FROM, UH, UH, THE DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION IN THIS CASE IS 10.
UM, SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF ROOM IN THAT, IN THAT FIRST FLOOR AREA.
SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THE, OF THAT WAIVER.
UM, THIS UNDER, IT'S THE UNDERSTORY IS FOR PARKING, UH, UH, USABLE SPACES FOR THE FAMILY TO USE, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A HABITABLE SPACE WHERE, WHERE THERE'S LIVING AREAS.
UM, SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THAT WAIVER.
UM, THERE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
STAFF, UM, DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCES.
UM, UM, AND I'M GONNA DESCRIBE THOSE AND AS A RESULT OF THESE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THIS APPLICATION BE CONTINUED TO THE JUNE MEETING, UM, TO ALLOW FOR SOME MODIFICATIONS.
UM, THE FIRST, UH, CONCERN THAT WE HAVE RELATES TO THE CONNECTOR BRIDGES.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THE, THE, THE DESIGN IS, IS IN TWO MASSES, ONE ON LOT EIGHT, ONE ON LOT 10.
AND THEN IN, IN THE MIDDLE, THERE'S, UM, UM, A CONNECTOR BRIDGE THAT ESSENTIALLY CONNECTS THESE TWO SIDES.
AND THIS ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A SINGLE ELEVATOR AND, AND STAIRCASE, UH, ACROSS THIS SPAN.
UM, STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS THAT THAT, THAT THAT SPACE, UH, THESE CONNECTOR WE'RE CALLING THEM CONNECTOR BRIDGES, UM, CREATES AN IMPOSING NATURE ON THE PROPERTY, UM, UM, THAT CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING VIEW, UH, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IMPACT VIEW, SIGHT LINES.
UM, AND SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THESE CONNECTOR BRIDGES BE LIMITED TO FLOORS, UM, ONE AND TWO AND THAT, UM, SO YOU CAN HAVE AN ENCLOSED CONNECTOR ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, AN OPEN AIR COVERED CONNECTOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT REMAIN OPEN.
UM, THIS DIVI THIS WILL DIVIDE THE MASSING, UM, AND, AND, AND OPEN UP, UH, OPEN UP VIEW CORRIDORS IN THE AREA.
UM, THE SECOND, UH, CHANGE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT THERE'S AN OPEN STAIRCASE ON THE ROOFTOP ON LEVEL FIVE, UM, THAT HAS A COVERED AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THAT COVERED AREA BE STEP SET BACK FIVE FEET.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING TALL TREES AND LOW SHRUBS, BE PROVIDED BETWEEN THE PROPOSED HOUSE AND THE EXISTING ONE STORY HOME AT SEVENTH CENTURY LANE.
UM, THE LANDSCAPING SHOULD BE PLACED IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED WALKWAY ON THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, AND THEN ON THE GROUND FLOOR IN FRONT OF THE GROUND FLOOR ELEVATOR AND UTILITY ROOM AREAS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SCREENING AND IN THE VISUAL MASS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT A WINDOW BE PROVIDED ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE ENCLOSED GARAGE, SIMILAR TO THE ROUND WINDOW LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, RAMPED TO BREAK UP THE WALL AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENCY.
UM, AND SO WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, STAFF, UH, DOES BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, THE APPEARANCE OF THE HOME WILL BE ENHANCED, UM, AND MINIMIZING THE IMPOSING NATURE OF THE HOME, UH, TOWARDS ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
IN REGARDS TO THE VARIANCES, THE APPLICANT, AS I SAID, IS REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO REDUCE BY THREE FEET, TWO INCHES.
THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SETBACK OF SEVEN FEET, SIX INCHES FOR A POOL, UH, FROM THE WATER'S EDGE.
UM, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A POOL WITH A SETBACK OF FOUR FEET, FOUR INCHES.
UM, STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE, UM, FOR THE
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POOL, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NARROW NATURE OF THE LOT, THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SETBACKS FROM THE REAR OF THE HOME, UM, IT DOES REPRESENT A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY TO THE APPLICANT.UM, AND, AND IT SHOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THE, THE LOCATION OF THE POOL.
THE SECOND VARIANCE IS, UM, IS RELATED TO THE, THE SIDE FACING A STREET SETBACK.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE BY THREE FEET, FOUR INCHES, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SIDE FACING A STREET SETBACK OF 10 FEET IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE AT SIX FEET, EIGHT INCHES FROM THE SIDE STREET SETBACK.
THIS IS FOR THE AREA WHERE THE CONNECTOR BRIDGES ARE LOCATED.
UM, IT PRIMARILY RELATES TO SOME, UH, PLANTERS THAT WILL BE ENCROACHING INTO THE SETBACK.
UM, BUT OVERALL STAFF HAS CONCERNS WITH THIS STRUCTURE IN GENERAL.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO, UM, UM, TO SUPPORT THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE, THAT THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BRIDGES BE REDUCED TO THOSE TWO LEVELS AS I DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.
UH, BECAUSE THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE CAN CREATE, UM, UM, AN IMPOSING STRUCTURE THAT CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDINGS.
UM, THE THIRD VARIANCE RELATES TO THE LOT AGGREGATION.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO AGGREGATE A THIRD LOT WHEN THE CODE PROVIDES FOR A MAXIMUM LOT AGGREGATION OF TWO LOTS.
UM, GIVEN THAT THESE ARE IRREGULAR SMALL LOTS, UM, THESE, THE THREE LOT AGGREGATION IS LESS THAN WHAT YOU COULD AGGREGATE WITH TWO STANDARD LOTS.
SO IT DOES REPRESENT A, IT COULD POTENTIALLY REPRESENT A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY ON THE APPLICANT.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS VARIANCE AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THE, THE PROPOSED DESIGN AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, UM, TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICATION BE CONTINUED IN ORDER TO FURTHER REFINE THE DESIGN TO MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED TO THE JUNE 12TH, 2025 MEETING SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN REVISE THE PROPOSAL AS AS DETAILED.
UM, AND THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
MY ADDRESS IS 3,800 NORTHEAST FIRST AVENUE, SUITE 200.
I'M JOINED BY BRIAN PRAVDA AND ELIZABETH VAN LEWIN FROM OUR ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE TEAM, ALONG WITH LIZBETH BUENO, WHO'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, YOU HAVE SEEN EIGHT AND 10 CENTURY BEFORE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW THAT AT THE TIME MY CLIENT, UM, DESIGNED TWO HOMES AND ONE WAS INTENDED TO BE THEIR MAIN HOUSE AND ONE WAS GOING TO SERVE AS A GUEST HOUSE FOR THEIR EXTENDED FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND GUESTS.
UM, IN THAT TIME, UM, THE, THEY WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE NINTH CENTURY, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS.
SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CAME BACK TODAY WITH A REDESIGN OF THE SITE TO HAVE ONE COHESIVE HOME TO SERVICE THIS FAMILY OF SIX, UM, THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING THEIR FOURTH CHILD VERY SOON.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR NEEDS HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE WERE LAST HERE.
UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE AND WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE OUR PRESENTATION TO YOU TODAY SO THAT WE COULD GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL AND MAKE SURE THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THESE CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE YOUR INPUT.
SO, UM, WITH YOUR, UM, CONSENT, UM, MADAM CHAIR, WE'D LIKE ABOUT 20 MINUTES TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DESIGN AND JUST THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION.
AND THEN TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK WITH US, UM, TO HOPEFULLY COME BACK ON THE JUNE OR POSSIBLY JULY AGENDA.
SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
MAYBE KEEP IT TO 15 MINUTES, AND THEN THAT'LL ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE NECESSARILY GONNA ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC, THERE'S GONNA BE QUESTIONS REGARDLESS.
YES, WE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
SO, UM, ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE, UM, BELL ISLE AND THE OUTLINED IN RED, ALTHOUGH I GUESS ON WHERE I'M LOOKING, THERE'S CAPTIONS, BUT ARE THE THREE LOTS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE L-SHAPED AND THERE'S A CONNECTOR THAT WE CALL IT, UH, BETWEEN NINTH CENTURY AND EIGHTH CENTURY LANE.
THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 28 FEET WIDE.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DESIGN A STRUCTURE AROUND THIS VERY IRREGULAR LOT SHAPE.
AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE PRIMARY LOT IS HERE, IT'S EIGHTH CENTURY LANE BECAUSE IT'S THE WATERFRONT.
SO NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT AND NINE WOULD PROBABLY CONNECT, UM, IN THE CONFIGURATION OF A DESIGN OF THESE PROPERTIES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS LOTS ARE ZONED RM ONE, WHICH IS A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
UM, SO 14 UNITS COULD FIT ON THESE LOTS.
UM, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 55, AND THE FAR IS 1.25.
UM, FOR CONTEXT, BELL ISLE IS, YOU KNOW, PREDOMINANTLY 90% MULTIFAMILY.
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THERE'S ABOUT 1100 UNITS DEVELOPED ON BELL ISLE.WE HAVE THE STANDARD HOTEL THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR FIVE STORY CONDOMINIUM BUILDING.
THE HABAD IS LOCATED ON FERRY LANE AT ITS SOUTH END, AND THERE ARE ABOUT 16 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES REMAINING TODAY, THREE OF WHICH ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
AND THOSE ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW.
THIS IS THE VISTA CONDOMINIUM, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT'S A 58 STORY, UH, 58 FOOT TALL APARTMENT BUILDING WITH 48 UNITS.
UM, THE APPROVAL OF THIS, UM, ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS DONE IN THE NINETIES.
IT'S BUILT ON SEVEN PLATTED LOTS, AND IT RECEIVED VARIANCES FOR BOTH SETBACKS AND HEIGHT IN ORDER TO BE BUILT AT THAT TIME.
SO FOR CONTEXT, MORE ON THE STREET I PASTED TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE BEST I COULD.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN CENTURY LANE AND YOU CAN SEE THE VISTAS CONDO TAKES UP THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, 11TH CENTURY LANE IS A RECENTLY COMPLETED HOME.
THAT'S ALSO A FIVE STORY HOME.
UM, AND EIGHT, NINE AND 10 CENTURY LANE ARE ADJACENT TO 11.
THERE IS ONE OTHER HOUSE, SEVEN CENTURY LANE THAT'S ON THE WATERFRONT, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.
SO THIS IS THE DESIGN OF THE STANDARD.
TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT, THE NEW ADDITION TO THE STANDARD, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN AT THE TOP, IS APPROXIMATELY 70 FEET TALL.
AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE NEW BUILDING, FOR THE STANDARD WATERFRONT ELEVATION OF THAT AS WELL.
SO I MENTIONED THAT PREVIOUSLY WE WERE HERE, UM, IN 2023 FOR APPROVAL OF EIGHT AND 10 CENTURY LANES.
UM, SOME OF THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY WERE APPROVED ALREADY THEN, WHICH INCLUDED, UM, THE VARIANCE FOR THE POOL SETBACK AND THE WAIVER TO ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE FIRST FLOOR HEIGHT BY 12 FEET TO 10 FEET.
THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE.
UM, YOU HAD TWO SEPARATE HOUSES, AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO WAS A BUNGALOW HOME AT NINE CENTURY LANE, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN ACQUIRED BY THE APPLICANTS.
SO TODAY WE'RE HERE WITH, UM, OUR TWO WAIVER REQUESTS AND VARIANCE REQUESTS, WHICH ROGELIO, UH, KINDLY, UM, DEFINED FOR YOU.
UM, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK THE MOST REASONABLE, GIVEN THE VERY ODD SHAPES OF THE LOT.
UM, MOST OF THEM RELATE TO THE, THE ODD CONFIGURATION, WHICH REQUIRE US TO HAVE SETBACK VARIANCES.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT VARIANCE HERE TODAY IS THE ALLOWANCE OF THE THREE AGGREGATION OF THE THREE LOTS.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DESIGN AND THE INTENT OF THE OWNERS TO HAVE THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THESE PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THAT VARIANCE, WE HAVE NO PROJECT.
UM, AND AS STAFF MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS WELL WITHIN REASON OF WHAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND RM TWO, THE, AS HE, AS ROGELIO SAID, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN RM TWO IS 5,600 SQUARE FEET.
OUR LOTS ARE RANGE IN SIZE FROM 2,600 SQUARE FEET TO ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO WHEN YOU AGGREGATE THEM TOGETHER, WE GET TO ABOUT 10,200 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET LESS THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN RM ONE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER, UM, TO BRIAN PRAVDA, OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLANS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
AND, UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MYSELF SO YOU KNOW, WHO'S TALKING TO YOU, WHY I'M HERE, AND GIVE SOME HISTORY ON THE PROJECT.
UM, AND ALSO, I, I WANT TO SINCERELY ASK FOR YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR EAR TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY, UH, WITHOUT PRECONCEPTIONS, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU MIGHT, MIGHT THINK.
SO, LIKE YOU SAID, MY NAME'S BRIAN.
UM, BEEN AN ARCHITECT NOW FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, WORKING AT THE BEACH FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
UH, BEEN WORKING SINCE INTERNSHIP FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.
UH, MY SPECIALTY IS IN HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR, UH, OCCUPANTS AND THEN ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE DESIGN TODAY.
UM, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET INTO THE DESIGN.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE THE PARCELS.
AND I WANNA EMPHASIZE, THESE ARE THREE UNDERSIZED PARCELS.
THEY DO NOT MEET THE CODE DEFINITION FOR LOT, OR THEY DO NOT MEET THE CODE DEFINITION FOR LOT.
UH, THE CITY'S CODE DEFINES LOT YOU CAN SEE HERE AS MEETING THE MINIMUM AREA AND SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONE.
AND THESE PARCELS, UNDERSIZED PARCELS DO NOT MEET THAT DEFINITION.
SO EVEN ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO LEGALLY, I I CONTEND IT'S NOT EVEN REQUIRED.
WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO, UM,
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POINT OUT HERE THAT WHEN YOU AGGREGATE THESE THREE UNDERSIZED PARCELS, YOU ARE BRINGING THIS PROPERTY INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE CODE.RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE THREE NON-CONFORMING PARCELS, AND BY AGGREGATING THESE, YOU'LL BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE.
UM, AND I'LL BE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
MY GOAL HERE TODAY IS GET, UH, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THIS.
I THINK WITHOUT QUESTION, IT, IT SHOULD BE, UH, NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE, UH, LOT COVERAGE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, UH, WAIVERS THAT REQUESTING THE CODE HAS NO LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT FOR LOTS THAT ARE UNDER 65 FEET WIDE.
AND THIS CONFIGURATION, YOU KNOW, COMBINING THESE THREE UNDERSIZED PARCELS TAKES THREE LOTS, UH, THAT ARE LESS THAN 65 FEET WIDE.
THE WAY THAT CITY STAFF HAD INTERPRETED THIS IS THEY VIEWED IT AS HAVING TWO DIFFERENT, UM, PARCELS, ONE ON THE EIGHT CENTURY SIDE THAT IS LESS THAN 65 FEET WIDE.
AND THAT IS THE WAY THAT ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ESTABLISHED.
SO FOR ESSENTIALLY HALF OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S NO LOCK COVERAGE REQUIREMENT AT ALL.
IT COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WITH COMBINING THESE TWO UNDERSIDE PARCELS, THE WIDTH EXCEEDS 65 FEET WITH THE WAY IT'S INTERPRETED.
AND SO THAT IS THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER UP TO 50%, WHICH IF YOU SEE, CAN READ THE NOTES.
AND HERE AT THE BOTTOM, UM, WE WERE FIRST STARTING THIS, BEEN WORKING THIS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, WAS WORKING WITH MICHAEL CIA AT THE TIME, SAID HE A L ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AND ENCOURAGED THIS.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION WITH THE ODD LOCK CONFIGURATION ON WHERE'S THE WIDTH? WHERE'S THE FRONT, WHERE'S THE BACK? AND I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU TURN, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PARCEL ON THE RIGHT.
THE OTHER WAY, WHICH ONE INTERPRETATION THAT WAS GIVEN BY STAFF WAS WHERE IT SAYS REAR, WHERE THERE ARE TWO REARS ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO, UH, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS REAR ONE INTERPRETATION FROM STAFF WAS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN INTERIOR SIDE, NOT A REAR, UH, WHICH WOULD, UH, ALLOW US TO BUILD EVEN MORE.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT WIDTH, IF YOU TOOK IT THE OTHER WAY, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE 68 FEET WIDE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO IN THIS DIRECTION.
SO I THINK THIS WAIVER'S VERY REASONABLE, UM, AND, UH, SHOULD BE APPROVED.
AND THEN NEXT I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE POOL SETBACK.
THIS IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UH, AS MENTIONED THIS, THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE PAST.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DASHED LINE ABOVE THE POOL, ABOUT HALF OF THE POOL IS UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A SMALL PROPERTY.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF SIGN WHILE YOU'RE IN THE POOL AND IMPOSES ON NO ONE, IT FACES THE WATER.
UNDER OUR SEPARATE PERMIT, THERE WILL BE A DOCK.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS VERY REASONABLE AND, AND SHOULD ALSO BE APPROVED.
AND THEN NEXT I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE WAIVER FOR THE HEIGHT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S BLOWN UP DETAIL.
SO THE, THE WAY THE CODE READS IS IT HAS THE MINIMUM, UH, HEIGHT AT 12 FEET TO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE SLAB WHEN YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTORY.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FOR FLOOD CONSIDERATION, YOU DON'T WANT THE FLOOR TO FLOOD.
UM, AND I WANTED TO SHOW THIS DETAIL HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT, KIND OF THE BLACK LINES, THE UNDER FLOOR, THE UNDERSIDE OF THE SLAB IS ACTUALLY JUST FOUR INCHES BELOW THAT MAXIMUM.
WE THEN HAVE A THICKENED SLAP EDGE, WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED A BEAM, UH, AT THE PLANTERS.
SO EVERYBODY ACTUALLY EVEN NEED THIS WAIVER.
YOU KNOW, IT IS QUESTIONABLE, IT'S OPEN TO INTERPRETATION AS FAR AS A THICKENED SLAB EDGE VERSUS A BEAM.
BUT OUT OF CAUTION, WE SAID, LET'S ASK FOR THE WAIVER.
IT'S BEEN APPROVED BEFORE, AND THIS IS TO KEEP THE HEIGHT AS LOW AS POSSIBLE WITH CONSIDERATION TO THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN, UH, THE VARIANCE HERE WANNA SHOW THE STREET SIDE SETBACK.
SO IF YOU LOOK, I'LL CALL IT THE PINCH POINT, WHERE IF WE FOLLOWED THE, UH, SETBACKS TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW, YOU HAVE FIVE FOOT 10 INCHES WHERE YOU CAN BUILD, THAT'S IT, FIVE FOOT, 10 INCHES WIDE.
UM, SO THIS DEFINITELY MEETS THE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF BEING ABLE TO GRANT VARIANCES AS FAR AS HAVING A HARDSHIP.
AND ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR, IF YOU LOOK, IS THE HABIT SPACE, WHICH IS THE, THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN IS WITHIN THAT SETBACK.
ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THIS OVERHANGING PLANTER, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO YOU HAVE OVERHANGING PLANTS IN GREEN SPACE FOR THAT TO JUST BARELY JUT OUT IN THAT BITTY SPACE.
AND IF YOU LOOK BACK, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE VISTAS, IT'S VERY COMMON.
UM, THEIR BALCONIES, OVERHANG, THE SETBACKS.
IT'S VERY COMMON TO HAVE OVERHANGS, EYEBROWS, PLANTERS, AND BALCONIES PASS THE SETBACKS.
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AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.AND NOW I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE PLANS.
THIS IS THE, THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND I'LL SAY, WHEN WE SAY A FIVE STORY BUILDING, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST WITH YOU, WHICH IS WHY WE SAY THAT TECHNICALLY THIS IS AN UNDERST UNDERSTORY, SO IT'S NOT EVEN A FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AS YOU'LL SEE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT BY NEIGHBORS IN THE PAST, AND I WANNA MENTION, I WENT BACK AND I LISTENED TO EVERY HEARING ON EIGHT AND 10TH CENTURY LANE, LISTENED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS, EVERYTHING THE BOARD MEMBERS SAID, AND TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITH THIS DESIGN.
SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS RAISED WAS TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION AND PARKING.
AND IF YOU SEE, A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE NOW IS USED TO WHERE THE CORNER OF THESE LOTS HAS A CIRCLE DRIVE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IN CONTEXT, THIS IS A DEAD END STREET.
AND RIGHT NOW, WITH THE PREVIOUS DESIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'D HAVE TO PULL IN AND THEN BACK OUT INTO THE STREET, AND IT CREATES A HAZARD AND IT'S HARD TO TURN AROUND IN THAT AREA.
AND PEOPLE PARK IN THE STREET, ESPECIALLY TODAY'S WORLD, WHEN YOU GET DELIVERIES AND MAIL, THEY JUST PARK IN THE STREET AND CREATE CONGESTION.
WE ARE USING A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE FOR A CIRCLE DRIVE TO EASE THAT CONGESTION AND ALLOW FOR PARKING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, AREA HERE, YOU HAVE THE CIRCLE DRIVE GARAGE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO UP FOR THE FLOOD ELEVATION, A STAIRCASE UP TO THE TOP, AND THEN A WALKWAY WITH THE ELEVATOR.
AND THERE'S ONE TOILET ROOM, ONE BATHROOM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATERFRONT, IT'S VERY MINIMAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE FIRST LEVEL.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GO UP ONE LEVEL, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE FAMILY'S LIVING SPACE.
AND SO YOU HAVE ON THE ONE SIDE, THE KITCHEN LIVING AND DINING, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A RENDERING OF THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST APARTMENTS
UM, AND THEN YOU GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE THE AMENS FOR THE HOME, A PLACE TO HANG OUT, UH, A GYM, BASICALLY A TV ROOM, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T SPACE FOR A TV ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, AND, UH, SAUNA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AS I MENTIONED, MY FOCUS ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY TO DO.
SO THIS IS FURTHER THE INHABITANTS HEALTHY HABIT.
AND WHILE I'M, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, I JUST WANNA MENTION, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS BROUGHT UP BY A CITY STAFF WAS, UM, I'LL CALL IT THE CORRIDOR.
AND I JUST WANT TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT.
THAT WAS, UH, A RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY STAFF AND WAS, HAS BEEN WORKED ON FOR MONTHS WITH CITY STAFF.
UH, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT MORE IN A BIT.
UM, AS YOU GO UP ONE LEVEL, UH, TO THE THIRD FLOOR, THESE ARE THE CHILDREN'S BEDROOMS. SO IF YOU SEE HERE ONLY TWO BEDROOMS FIT ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE ARE THREE MORE AS, UH, TRACY MENTIONED, THE FOUR CHILDREN, ONE GUEST BEDROOM, OR A ROOM FOR, UH, ROOM FOR A PARENT.
KNOW HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE TO ADDRESS.
I'LL, IS THAT OKAY? I APOLOGIZE.
YEAH, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA ASK QUESTIONS.
SO YEAH, BUT THIS IS INFORMATIVE.
SO THIS IS THE FAMILY LEVEL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, EVEN TO GET TO THEIR KIDS, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO GO ACROSS, UH, THIS GLASS AREA.
SO GOING UPSTAIRS, THIS IS THE MASTER SUITE LEVEL, SO, OR, OR PRIMARY.
SO YOU HAVE A BEDROOM, CLOSETS, WHICH ARE IMPORTANT,
AND THEN THERE'S ROOM BASICALLY FOR A DESK AND A HOME OFFICE.
AND I WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO, I'LL JUST SPEED THROUGH, UM, ALL OF THE EXTERIOR LIVING SPACE AND HOW FAR SET BACK THE MASSING IS.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET FROM THE STREET AND THEN ANOTHER, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 17 FEET.
SO YOU HAVE THE PLANTER AND ANOTHER, SO IT'S LIKE 40 FEET SET BACK.
UM, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER CLIENT THAT WOULD ACCEPT THIS.
UH, ON THIS OTHER SIDE HERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT 50, 60 FEET SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON A LOT THAT IS LESS THAN 65 FEET.
SO, UM, HALF OF THIS IS ALREADY SET BACK.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT REAL QUICKLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THE UTILITIES ARE WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT, WHICH AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD DO THIS, UH,
THIS IS SO EXCESSIVELY RESPECTFUL AND SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, THE, THE TRASH, THE RECYCLING, THE ELECTRICAL PANELS, AIR CONDITIONING
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IS ALL THE POOL EQUIPMENT.THE, THE WATER EQUIPMENT IS WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT.
IT'S TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE IT ONLY FIVE FEET SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THIS ISN'T, THIS IS WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
AND AS YOU GO UP, YOU'LL NOTICE HOW THE, THE BUILDING STEPS IN.
AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS.
THIS BUILDING DOESN'T GO STRAIGHT UP.
IT TEARS IN AND, YOU KNOW, THE ONE PLACE WHERE THE COMETS ARE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, IN A BIT.
SO THIS IS WHERE THE CONDENSING UNITS ARE.
AND IF YOU NOTICE HERE, SO THIS IS THE TOP ROOF.
YOU HAVE THE AIR CONDITIONERS, THEY'RE ACCESSED BY A ROOF HATCH.
TYPICALLY, UH, YOU CAN SEE WITH WHAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS DO, UH, IS YOU HAVE THE STAIRCASE LEAD UP TO THE TOP, YOU'LL HAVE AN ELEVATOR GO UP TO THE TOP, AND THE MASSING IS MUCH MORE THIS AND THIS PLAN, THE ELEVATORS AND THE ELEVATOR, I SHOULD SAY.
AND STAIRCASE, THERE'S ONLY ONE.
AND IT STOPS AT THE LEVEL BELOW SO THAT IT KEEPS THE HEIGHT AND THE MASSING AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE AND SHOW THE FLOOR AREA RATIO DIAGRAMS. AGAIN, THIS JUST KIND OF SHOW HOW MUCH OF, OR I SHOULD SAY, HOW LITTLE OF THE SPACE IS ACTUALLY LIVING SPACE.
THE, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THIS IS, IS LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND EXTERIOR OVERHANGS SHOW YOU THE ELEVATION.
AND IN CONTEXT, WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS READING THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I PRESENTED HERE.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO EVALUATE THE, THE CONTEXT AND THE APPROPRIATENESS AND THE, THE URBAN DESIGN.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS IN CONTEXT, IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THIS LOT, TYPICALLY, OKAY, WE'RE AGGREGATING THREE LOTS.
YOU THINK THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST SEVEN NEIGHBORS.
IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ON THE WATERFRONT, THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBOR, BUT IF YOU HAVE THREE LOTS, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO ON EACH SIDE AND ONE IN THE BACK.
BUT THERE ARE ONLY FOUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY AGGREGATED THEIR LOTS, THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE.
A CONDOMINIUM HAS ESSENTIALLY SIX STORIES TALL.
IT'S FIVE STORIES OF LIVING ON TOP OF PARKING.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE STANDARD HOTEL, WHICH GOT APPROVED FOR FIVE STORIES.
PLUS THEIR ROOF IS AN ACTIVE ROOF WITH A ROOF DECK AND PLANTERS.
AND IF YOU SEE WITH BOTH OF THEM BEING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE ELEVATOR BANKS, MULTIPLE STAIRCASES, AND THOSE BULKHEADS.
SO THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE BOTH HIGHER, TALLER, AND BIGGER THAN THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO 11TH CENTURY LANE, WHICH IS A FIVE STORY RESIDENCE, WHICH IS THE OTHER NEIGHBOR, WHICH ESSENTIALLY FOLLOWED THE SAME EXACT THING.
UM, AND I'LL SAY THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT BE UNCON CONTEXTUAL IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO ITS NEIGHBORS, UH, MUCH MORE SENSITIVE THAN ALL THE EXISTING PROPERTIES.
AND I WANNA SHOW WHAT COULD BE BUILT HERE INSTEAD.
UH, AS MENTIONED, IF THESE WERE SEPARATE PARCELS, THERE'S NO LOT COVERAGE.
UM, MAXIMUM THESE CAN BE BUILT ALL THE WAY UP.
THIS IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT'S ALLOWED.
YOU CAN HAVE 14 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY ZONE AT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVE OVER 20 PARKING SPACES, LOADING DOCKS, DUMPSTERS.
I MEAN, THIS COULD BE A MASSIVE BUILDING THAT'S ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN ITS MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
INSTEAD WE'RE PROPOSING ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, ONE FAMILY, AND THAT'S IT.
UM, THERE'S ONE CIRCLE DRIVE, ONE THREE CAR GARAGE, ONE RESIDENTIAL ELEVATOR.
I THINK THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND WE ARE NOT ACTIVATING THE ROOF, SO I'LL TRY TO GO FASTER.
SO ECO MODERN AESTHETIC, IF YOU NOTICE WE'VE INTEGRATED LANDSCAPING NATURAL MATERIALS, AND WE'RE HONORING THE LEGACY OF MIAMI BEACH.
THE STYLE OF THIS, IT MIXES CURRENT MODERN DESIGN WITH OUR DECO AND STREAMLINED MODERN.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU, AS SOMEONE IN THE INDUSTRY, I WAS PERSONALLY OFFENDED BY BEING BRUTAL AS TO MENTIONED AT ALL.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN, IT'S, YOU HAVE CURVED EDGES AND LANDSCAPING INTEGRATED IN IT, AND WE HAVE ELEMENTS OF ART THAT GO IN IT, INCLUDING THE MATERIALS WITH TERRAZZO AND OTHER THINGS.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, HEATING THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S GUIDANCE AND INPUT.
AND AS WE'RE LED, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE THIS.
AND THAT WAS CHANGED THIS PAST WEEK, UH, FOR NEIGHBORS SAYING THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS BUILT.
UM, I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT AND EVALUATE THIS HONESTLY WITH WHAT'S HERE.
UH, NOT JUST 'CAUSE NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT SOMETHING BUILT NEXT TO THEM, WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT, BUT THAT'S NOT A VALID REASON TO OBJECT TO THIS.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS WAS
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DESIGNED VERY RESPECTFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORS, AND WE TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS BETTER THAN THEY TREAT US.UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT WAS GUIDING ALL OF THIS, WAS TO BE AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE TO IMPROVE THE VEHICLE CIRCULATION, MAXIMIZE THE VIEWS AND LIGHTS TO BE CONTEXTUAL AND BELONG TO OUR TIME IN PLACE WHILE CREATING A TIMELESS DESIGN AND THE MATERIAL NOT NEARLY, UH, GETTING THERE.
SO THE MATERIALS, IF YOU SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE, UH, PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY GLASS.
SO I HAVE MY LITTLE NOTES HERE.
WHAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR SUSTAINABILITY FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS NO MORE THAN 20% OF THE FACADE SHOULD BE GLASS.
BUT BECAUSE OF ALL, UH, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, 50% OF THE FACADE IS GLASS.
30% OF THE HOME ARE, ARE WOOD FLATS.
AND I BROUGHT MATERIAL HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT SAMPLE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE A HUMAN SCALE TO THE BUILDING.
SO AS OPPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE LARGE STUCCO FACADES, THIS HOME IS WOOD SLATS AND GLASS.
AND THEN WE HAVE FLUTED CONCRETE AT THE BASE LEVEL, WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY LANDSCAPING.
AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE SMOOTH CONCRETE IS WHAT I'LL CALL THE, THE PLANTER RIBBONS THAT WRAP AROUND, WHICH IS THAT STREAMLINE, UH, MODERN AESTHETIC, WHICH YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE BEACH.
THIS HONORS THE HISTORY AND TRADITION IN MIAMI BEACH.
AND THEN THE FLOORS, UH, WHERE POSSIBLE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PAVERS FOR DRAINAGE, BUT WHERE POSSIBLE, INCLUDING THE POOL DECK AND THE BALCONIES ORZO, WHICH IS ALSO VERY SITE SPECIFIC TO MIAMI BEACH AND THE RICH HISTORY HERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE RENDERINGS.
UM, SO THIS IS LOOKING FROM CENTURY LANE, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE VERY CLEARLY, UM, THE, THE QUARTER THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE DOES NOT IMPOSE ANY NEIGHBOR WHATSOEVER.
UM, THIS IS A DEAD END, SORRY, THIS IS A DEAD END STREET, AND AT THE DEAD END HERE, IT'S GLASS AND LANDSCAPING.
THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE RESPECTFUL, UH, THAN THIS.
ONE POINT TO MAKE IN THAT LAST RENDERING IS THAT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE ROOF OF SEVENTH CENTURY LANE IN THIS IMAGE, AND THAT'S CONTEXTUAL.
UM, THE EMAIL THAT I JUST HANDED OUT TO YOU, UH, WAS FROM THAT OWNER TO ME SAYING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, HE ALSO PLANS TO BUILD FOUR STORIES.
SO YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AHEAD OF OUR NEIGHBOR, BUT IT IS WHOLLY CONTEXTUAL AND WHOLLY COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON ON CENTURY LANE.
AND THEN THIS IS SHOWING THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE CIRCLE DRIVE TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, AND YOU HAVE THIS TUCKED IN AREA TO WHERE ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A, A GLASS CORRIDOR IN THE HOME, AND THIS IS A COURTYARD SPACE, SO THERE'S NOTHING IMPOSING.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS WORKED ON TIRELESSLY WITH STAFF WHO MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UH, AND THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE MASSING IS BECAUSE STAFF SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT THERE BE, IT APPEAR FROM THE OUTSIDE AS TWO MASSES WITH A MINIMAL CONNECTOR.
UH, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
AGAIN, HERE, YOU CAN SEE THIS FROM IF YOU WERE INSIDE THE CABINETS.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE LIVING ROOM, DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, ALL TOGETHER, LIKE I SAID'S SMALLER THAN MOST APARTMENTS, AND LOOKING AT THE CHILDREN'S BEDROOMS HERE CAN BARELY FIT IN A BED AND A DESK TO, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE WHOLE SITE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT EIGHTH CENTURY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE ABOUT 40 FEET AT THIS POINT WIDE, AND YOU BRING IN THE SETBACKS.
IT'S A VERY MINIMAL BUILDING, VERY MINIMAL FOOTPRINT.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT, WHICH I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
AND OKAY, I'M SORRY, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE DOING
CAN I JUST FINISH RIGHT HERE? YEAH, THE LAST POINTS.
CAN, YOU CAN SEE THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER STRUCTURES.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FIVE STORIES PLUS AND HOW LIGHT THIS IS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, I'M NOW OPENING UP TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK.
COULD, COULD I BE ADDED AS A PRESENTER SO THAT I CAN VIEW THE ONLINE, UH, TO OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF? GOOD MORNING.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE VISTAS CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
THE ASSOCIATION, THE CONDOMINIUM THAT WILL BE MOST IMPACT BY WHAT I HAVE HEARD DESCRIBED
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AS IMPOSING, MASSIVE.ALL OF THOSE DESCRIPTIONS ARE TRUE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE THE DESIGN BOARD TO DO IS LISTEN TO OUR HEART.
WE DON'T WANT THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF OUR HOME TOTALLY DESTROYED.
WE DO NOT WANT TO STOP ANY ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ON CENTURY LANE TO NOT DEVELOP THEIR LOTS, THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR LOTS.
BUT WHEN THE OWNER OF LOT EIGHT, NINE, AND 10 PURCHASED THOSE LOTS, THEY WERE FULLY AWARE OF THE IRREGULAR SHAPE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IF THEY DID NOT KNOW OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND THE NECESSARY FORBEARANCE.
I'M ONE OF NINE CHILDREN AND MY HOME THAT I GREW UP IN WAS NEVER DESCRIBED AS MASSIVE AND IMPOSING.
THIS IS A FOUR TO SIX OR MORE FAMILY, THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN WITH TWO UNITS, THAT'S REASONABLE, BUT THIS MASSIVE IMPOSING STRUCTURE WILL BE DEVASTATING TO THIS SMALL, SMALL STREET.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.
WE, FOR THE THIRD TIME, WE ARE GETTING BIDS TO REPAIR OUR PAVERS.
RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF THE SMALL ONE LANE STREET, EVERYONE THAT GOES DOWN, JUST ABOUT EVERYONE THAT GOES DOWN THAT STREET HAVE TO TURN INTO OUR DRIVEWAYS AND THEY'RE DAMAGING OUR PAVERS RIGHT NOW.
INDIVIDUALS THAT LIMOUSINES PARK ON THE SIDE, ILLEGALLY PARK ON THE SIDE NEAR OUR BUILDING AND ACROSS THE STREET ILLEGALLY.
RIGHT NOW, IF ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE A PARTY LIKE THEY DID, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS, NOT THE VISTAS, HAD A PARTY, THEY LEGALLY PARKED ON THE SIDE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE 10 PARKING, A 10 SPACE PARKING GARAGE? IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
YOU BUILD 10, UH, A UNIT WITH 10 PARKING SPACES, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE 10 CARS, ADDITIONAL CARS GOING UP AND DOWN THAT SMALL STREET.
YES, CENTURY LANE IS A DEAD END STREET, BUT AT THAT DEAD END STREET IS THE ACCESS TO OUR OUTDOOR, A PICNIC AREA, WHICH WE CANNOT GET TO BECAUSE CARS ARE PARKED THERE.
I, I'M SORRY, VIDEO, ARE YOU GONNA WRAP IT UP? YES, YOUR TIME IS UP.
I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH FOR YOU TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO HINDER THE BUILDING OF THEIR, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR LOTS.
WE DO WANT THE PLANS TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE NEGATIVE IMPACT.
FURTHERMORE, MORE WE ARE TOTALLY AGAINST THE VARIANCE FOR AGGRAVATING THE THREE LOTS.
THEY WERE AWARE OF IT WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT, THE CITY FATHERS IN THEIR WISDOM, UM, THE ZONING.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE GRANITE.
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EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME.I AM, UH, I'M THE SECRETARY AND TREASURER ON THE VISTA BOARD.
IN ADDITION, I'M A PHYSICIAN AT THE CLEVELAND CLINIC.
UH, I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A DEEPLY IMPORTANT MATTER TO ME.
NOT BECAUSE ONLY AS A HOMEOWNER, BUT AS A FATHER, A NEIGHBOR, AND A MEMBER IN THE COMMUNITY.
I'M ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY MEDICINE CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M MISSING IT TO BE HERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I PURCHASED, UH, THE, MY CONDO, THE VISTA IN 2012.
CENTURY LANE IS A SMALL, PEACEFUL AND CHARMING STREET, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALK OR GREEN SPACE.
IT IS WHERE MY DAUGHTER FIRST LEARNED HOW TO RIDE HER BIKE.
IT IS WHERE MY TWO AND 5-YEAR-OLD STILL RIDES, STILL RIDE THEIR SCOOTER AND BIKE UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
IT IS, IT IS PART OF OUR DAILY LIVES.
SO OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND THAT MIAMI AND MIAMI BEACH ARE GROWING RAPIDLY AND I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
GROWTH IS PART OF LIFE, BUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS NOT GROWTH IS A DRAMATIC DISRUPTION TO PROPOSE DEVELOPMENT.
COMBINING THREE LOTS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THAT'S ANYTHING BUT TYPICAL 55 FEET TALL, UP TO 13,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, PARKING FOR 10 VEHICLES AND MINIMAL OR NO GREEN SPACE.
THIS IS WIDELY OUTTA SCALE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO FOR, UH, FOR PERSPECTIVE, THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET LARGER THAN THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
BY COMPARISON, THE STANDARD HOTEL RIGHT NOW IS 26,000 SQUARE FEET AND 30 FEET HIGH.
SO THIS WOULD BE HALF THE SIZE AND WAY TALLER.
THIS PROJECT WILL PERMANENTLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF CENTURY LANE.
IT'S NOT A HOME, IT IS A COMMERCIAL SCALE STRUCTURE TUCKED INTO A RESIDENTIAL STREET APPROVING.
IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS APPROVING, IT WOULD SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT, I BELIEVE FOR OVERDEVELOPMENT AND ERO.
THE VERY ZONING PROTECTION MEANT TO PRESERVE COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS.
OKAY, BEYOND THE SIZE OF THE HOME, THERE'S A REAL CONCERN THAT THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE OF ITS LOT SIZE, COULD LATER BE TURNED INTO A MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH UP TO 14 UNITS.
THIS COULD BE DEVASTATING IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, CONGESTION AND SAFETY.
IF THE APPLICANT'S TRUE INTENT IS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THEN I ASK THAT THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE NO OBJECT.
I MEAN THAT THEY SET SOME RESTRICTED COVENANT TO PREVENT ANY FUTURE CONVERSION TO MULTIFAMILY USE.
IN ADDITION, THE STANDARD HOTEL IS V REDEVELOPING AND WILL INCLUDE SIX LUXURY PRIVATE RESIDENCE.
ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTION FOR THE STANDARD HOTEL TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY TO BECOME THEIR PRIVATE RESIDENT? I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE APPROVAL.
SO CENTURY LANE IS A QUIET, TIGHT-KNIT STREET WHERE NEIGHBORS KNOW EACH OTHER AND CHILDREN CAN STILL PLAY OUTSIDE.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE AGAINST PROJECT THAT THREATENED THE VERY SO OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE MAJOR DEPARTURE FROM THE RULES DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE, WE LIKE.
SO ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, MY NEIGHBOR, AND MY COMMUNITY, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO HELP US TO PRESERVE CENTURY LANE FOR PEACE, BEAUTY, LIVABILITY FOR OUR BELOVED NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR OUR CHILDREN, AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SHOULD I SPEAK, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? YES.
THE THE FIRST HAND RAISE IS A PHONE NUMBER.
HELLO? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, YES, PLEASE JUST STATE, STATE YOUR NAME AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
AND I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU PROCEED, SIR.
ANDREW PORTNOY, A-N-D-R-E-W-P-O-R-T-N-O-Y 9 2 0 MERIDIAN A APARTMENT EIGHT.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
THE FIRST TO THE PLANNING BOARD, APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE TELEPHONE LINE BEING SUPPORTED HERE.
JUST TO COMMENT ON THE FACEBOOK LINK, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS, UH, A-A-T-E-L POLAND PLUS, AND THEN THE NUMBER FOR AN EASIER WAY TO CLICK.
I HAD A DIFFICULT TIME JOINING THE MEETING.
I WISH THERE WAS JUST ONE BUTTON JUST LOOKING JOIN TO THE PRESENTERS.
AMAZING JOB FOR THE TWO OF YOU.
THE SECOND ONE I CONNECTED MORE WITH, I THINK BECAUSE I CAUGHT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.
HOWEVER, I APPRECIATE THE, THE LOVE BEHIND THIS PROJECT
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AS WELL AS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE JUST BEFORE ME.A FEW COMMENTS ON THE WHOLE SITUATION WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKING.
AS A FORMER CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TRANSPORTATION ANALYST, I BELIEVE IN THE PEDESTRIANIZATION OF THE CITY WILL DRIVE THE BIGGEST ENHANCEMENT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE TO PROTECT OUR TROPICAL AND SUCH COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, AND WHILE PEOPLE WANT PARKING, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT IS EASE OF GETTING TO PLACES AND EASE OF GETTING TO PLACES IS A LOADING ZONE.
WE NEED MORE LOADING ZONES AND PERHAPS AROUND SOME OF THESE PARKING SPACES OR SOMETHING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
CHANGING RESIDENTIAL PARKING INTO A LOADING ZONE WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN THESE SPACES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF PERHAPS ONE OF THOSE SPACES WOULD BE TO SWITCH INTO AN APOLOGIES, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL CONFIGURATION OF CENTURY LANE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, UM, CONVERTING A, A PARKING SPACE IN THAT AREA TO A LOADING ZONE OR TWO SO CARS CAN GET IN.
YOU SAID IT'S A CIRCULAR ROUNDABOUT, PERHAPS ON A QUOTE UNQUOTE DEAD END STREET, BUT IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT IN CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY IN WAY OF LIFE IN THE PARK, UM, IN A DIFFERENT SPOT.
THERE COULD BE A PICNIC BENCH, SO IT WOULD BE A LOADING ZONE ADJACENT TO A PICNIC BENCH TO ENHANCE THE GREEN SPACE OF WHAT RIGHT NOW SEEMS TO HAVE NO SIDEWALK WALKABILITY.
PUTTING A, PUTTING A BENCH THERE IS, IS ALMOST A, A, A MOVEMENT TOWARDS MORE GREEN SPACE, MORE WELLBEING.
UM, SO I CALL, I CALL THAT KIND OF A PARKING PARK.
IT TURN CONVERTING A PARKING SPACE INTO A PARK, BUT ALSO ENHANCING THE WALKABILITY WITH A LOADING ZONE.
WITH REGARDS TO THE ROOF SPACE, I THINK ACTIVATION COULD BE GOOD THERE, JUST IN TERMS OF A GREEN SPACE UP THERE TO PERHAPS CAPTURE CARBON EMISSIONS AS WELL AS MAYBE PROVIDE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COMPOST WITH PEOPLE TO RELAX IN THE BUILDING.
ONCE AGAIN, I, WE DID NOT VIEW THE PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT, UH, TREAT NEIGHBORS AS FAMILY WAS QUOTED.
I THINK WE NEED, UH, TREAT, TREAT NEIGHBORS LIKE THEY TREAT US.
NO, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS AS FAMILY.
I DON'T CARE HOW THEY TREAT US.
I WANT TO TREAT MY NEIGHBORS AS FAMILIES.
UM, AND TO ALL OF YOU LISTENING, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL OF YOU, UH, TALKING.
GOOD LUCK WITH THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S, UH, HERE, HERE OR NEXT TIME.
UM, I, I, I'M ABOUT WISE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT THE BRIDGES.
I JUST HOPE THAT PEOPLE CAN PERHAPS STILL WALK THE FOOT PATHS.
UM, IF, IF THE BUILDINGS ARE CONNECTED, I I MIGHT JUST HOPE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC FOOTPATH BETWEEN THE THREE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONJOINING, UH, CONFIGURATIONS,
YOU GOT LIKE AN INTERESTING CONFIGURATION THAT THAT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY.
GOOD LUCK WITH IT IN A FUN TICKER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS, ANDREW.
THAT'S, UH, NEXT WE HAVE SCOTT FOXMAN.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, YES WE CAN.
MR. FOXMAN, UM, I DO NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU PROCEED THOUGH.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
UM, MADAM CHAIRPERSON, I THINK I NEED FIVE MINUTES.
I'M THE ONE ACTUALLY THE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS.
I'M THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THIS PROJECT, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME FIVE MINUTES, IF YOU CAN DO IT IN FOUR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
LET'S SEE HOW FAR YOU GET WITH FOUR.
WE ALSO RECEIVED THE, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SENT AS WELL.
UM, AND OF COURSE, AS THE DIRECT NEIGHBOR, WE DO TAKE YOUR CONCERNS SERIOUSLY.
SO WE'RE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UM, TO BEGIN WITH, I'M A LITTLE, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, I'M A LITTLE BOTHERED BY A COUPLE COMMENTS ALREADY THAT THEY TREAT THE NEIGHBORS BETTER THAN NEIGHBORS.
I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE AND NOT TRUE.
TWO IS TRACY SLAVENS, WHEN SHE SAID, I'M GONNA BUILD A STORY HOUSE, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WHAT I SAID WAS BASICALLY THAT I DIDN'T THINK THIS PROJECT WAS GOOD FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR VIEWS IF I EVER BUILT.
I'VE NEVER, I DON'T WANNA BUILD, BUT I HAVE NO PLANS TO BUILD.
THREE IS, I DON'T LIKE THE VEILED THREAT BY THE ARCHITECT THAT THEY COULD PUT A BIGGER, YOU KNOW, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING THERE.
IF WE DON'T GO THROUGH WITH THIS, THAT NOTHING COULD BE BIGGER THAN THIS.
BY THE WAY, THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE MAXIMUM OF SIZE.
THAT BEING SAID, LET ME UNDER, LEMME EXPLAIN SOMETHING MY WIFE AND MYSELF DO ARE NOT OBJECTORS.
WHEN THEY, WHEN 11TH CENTURY LANE CAME ON AND EVERYBODY FOUGHT IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE NEW MODERN BUILDING ON THE ROAD.
WE DID NOT, WHEN OUR NEIGHBORS CAME AND WANTED TO BUILD TWO BUILDINGS NEXT TO US, WE ACTUALLY WERE PART OF THE GROUP THAT APPROVED THEM.
WE WERE, WE WERE ON THEIR LIST OF APPROVALS.
THEN THEY BOUGHT THE THIRD LOT AND THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA MAKE GREEN SPACE AND ONE LOT AND HAVE TWO ON THE OTHER.
I SAID, FINE, WE APPROVE THAT ALSO.
SO WHEN THIS PROJECT HIT, THIS WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
WHAT THEY'RE, THE APPLICANT'S ASKING TO BUILD A HOME THAT'S MASSIVE IN SIZE HAS A BRUTALIST APPEARANCE OF A HOTEL AND IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S 13,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH MAKES IT 10,000 SQUARE FEET BIGGER THAN ANY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE ROAD.
THE STANDARD HOTEL IS ONLY 26,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ALSO 10 FEET TALLER THAN EVEN THE HIGHEST BUILDING ON, ON THE ROAD, WHICH IS 45 FEET.
THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES IN
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TWO WAIVERS.THE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAID, I THINK THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
I AGREE TOTALLY WITH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ALSO, THERE IS NOT EVERYBODY AT THE VISTAS.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON AT VISTA SAYS FA HORTON CAN ATTEST, IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS, EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON WHO'S FRIENDS WITH TRACY SLAVIN.
ALSO, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER ON THE STREET IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FIRST, DON'T ALLOW THE, THE THEM TO AMASS THREE PROPERTIES TOGETHER.
THE ZONING SPECIFICALLY RULES AGAINST THAT.
THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THESE ARE IRREGULAR LOTS AND THAT THEY'RE SMALLER LOTS AND ALL THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME FOR RE THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE STATUTE THAT SAYS, OH, IF THERE'S SINGLE, IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE IRREGULAR LOTS IS NO LONGER APPLIES.
AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT APPRECIATES THAT.
UM, ALSO, JUST LIKE FAYE HORTON SAID, THEY KNEW IN ADVANCE WHAT THE DEAL WAS.
OKAY, THE NEXT, I I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEY SHOULD GET RID OF ALL THE BRIDGES BETWEEN ALL THE LAYERS OF THE OTHER LAYERS.
IT IS MASSIVE AND IT GIVES IT A MASSIVE APPEARANCE.
I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
LET THEM HAVE A CONNECTOR, UH, GIVE THEM THE SETBACK SO THEY CAN HAVE A ONE STORY CONNECTOR WITH A WALKING PATH ABOVE IT.
THE HEIGHT, THEY WANT 55 FEET.
THE, THE STANDARD ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS 25 FEET.
THEY'RE 30 FEET ABOVE THE STANDARD.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS YOU GUYS ENFORCED THAT 11 CENTURY ONLY BE 45 FEET TALL.
YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM TO BE 45 FEET TALL, BUT THEN SAY IT'S OKAY FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO GO TO 55 FEET.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.
UM, THE OTHER THING, I DO AGREE THAT ALSO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THERE.
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN THIS, TO BUILD THIS AND THEN TURN THIS INTO A, AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND SINCE MR. SEGER SAYS THIS IS GONNA BE THE HOME OF HIS LIFETIME, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
THERE HAS TO BE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN THERE SAYING THAT.
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY THEY SHOULD BRING ALL THEIR MATERIALS IN BY BOAT.
THEY SHOULD HAVE A DUST SHIELD, A CONTRACT TO WASH ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THEY SHOULD HAVE A GREEN SPACE AND USE THAT GREEN SPACE FOR, FOR, FOR STAGING FOR TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT.
ON MY SIDE, JUST AS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAID, THEY SHOULD PUT, UH, LARGE TRAVELER PALMS, 30 FOOT TRAVELER PALMS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, AS A VISUAL BARRIER, I WANT THEM PERSONALLY TO MOVE THE POOL EQUIPMENT TO THE OTHER SIDE.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN IRRIGATION PLAN, UNDERSTAND THEIR BUILDING IS GONNA BE, THEIR LAND IS GONNA BE SIX FEET HIGHER THAN MINE, WHICH MEANS I'M GONNA GET ALL OF THE DRAINAGE FROM THIS PROJECT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN IRRIGATION PLAN.
UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL MY THOUGHTS AND I'M MORE THAN GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I FEEL IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, TO LIMIT THE SIZE AND APPEARANCE OF THE PROJECT, AND TO MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WANT THEM TO HAVE A NICE HOUSE.
THEY CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS CONNECTED WITH A NICE GREEN SPACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE A SWING SET FOR THEIR KIDS OR WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE HAPPY WITH IT.
THEY'LL STILL END UP WITH A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
SO, UH, IN CONCLUSION, I RECOMMEND THE DRB DENY VARIANCE.
THREE, ACCEPT VARIANCE ONE WITH RESTRICTIONS.
REQUEST THAT THE, THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME BE 45 FEET AND REQUIRE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO, TO PREVENT THE HOME FROM BECOMING AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
WE HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE THE APPROPRIATE CHANGES AND THAT WE CAN THEN SUPPORT THEIR APPLICATION.
I DO NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU PROCEED.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING AND IS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
MEMBERS OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
YOU MAY KNOW ME IN THE PAST AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE, BUT I'M SPEAKING TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME AS CANDIDATE FOR CITY COMMISSION GROUP ONE.
AND REGARDING, UH, THIS BEAUTIFUL, UH, CENTURY LANE.
I REMEMBER GROWING UP JUST NEARBY AND ALL THE SMALL, BEAUTIFUL BUNGALOWS THAT WERE THERE AND HONESTLY THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE PROTECTED AND THEY WERE HISTORIC.
LIKE SO MUCH OF MIAMI BEACH OVER THE LAST 10 OR SO YEARS, IT HAS BEEN SO DISHEARTENING TO SEE ONE BY ONE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE COTTAGES BEING PICKED UP, KNOCKED DOWN, AND REPLACED WITH THESE MEGA MANSIONS.
THAT BEING SAID, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING
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AS OBSCENE AS WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY.MAYBE THEY HAVE THIS IN INDIA WHERE THE BILLIONAIRES BUILD THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THEY CALL THEM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT IN THE CHARACTER OF CENTURY LANE.
I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS, THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE SPOKEN UP.
THIS IS A POINT OF HAVING A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
I UNDERSTAND UNFORTUNATELY, CENTURY LANE SEEMS HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER MOSTLY BY INVESTORS AND THAT THEY'VE EVEN OPPOSED PROTECTING THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE.
BUT I WANNA URGE THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THERE TO ALSO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE STEWARDS NOT JUST OF YOUR OWN INVESTMENT AND YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL, BUT FOR THE CITY AND THE SCALE AND THE HARMONY THAT YOU PASS ALONG TO FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO, IN SHORT, PLEASE DENY THIS VARIANCE.
AND IN ADDITION, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT STRONGER AND STAND UP TO DEVELOPERS.
IT'S BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE SO MANY THINGS APPROVED THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
SO I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO STAND UP AND I URGE YOU TO VISIT DANIEL FOR MIAMI BEACH.ORG.
I SEE ANY, NO OTHER HANDS ARE RAISED.
MADAM CHAIR, MAY I HAVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL, PLEASE? SURE.
HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED? I I CAN TAKE LESS THAN TWO MINUTES.
UM, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
UM, PRIMARILY, UM, THESE ARE NOT INVESTORS.
THIS, MY CLIENTS HAVE OWNED THESE PROPERTIES FOR YEARS.
THEY HAVE OWNED EIGHT CENTURY LANE SINCE 2015.
THIS IS INTENDED TO BE THEIR HOME.
IT'S NOT DESIGNED AS AN APARTMENT.
AND SO HE INTENDS TO BUILD HIS HOUSE HERE FOR HIS FAMILY OF SIX.
WE ADDRESS ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND ON THE STREET REGARDING PARKING.
SO WE ADDRESS THAT BY MAKING SURE THAT THE FOOTPRINT OF ALMOST AN ENTIRE LOT IS DEDICATED TO DRIVEWAY AND, AND INTERIOR PARKING SPACE.
SO THAT THERE ARE NOT COMPLAINTS FROM THEM HAVING GUESTS OR HOUSEKEEPERS OR WORKERS OR ANYBODY AT THE HOUSE.
EVERYBODY IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I FIND IT A BIT DISINGENUOUS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN A SIX STORY BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED WITH VARIANCES FOR HEIGHT AND FOR SETBACKS TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE SAME DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR STREET THAT THEY LIVE IN.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, A NUMBER OF THESE PEOPLE LIVE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT FACE CENTURY LANE, AND THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT LOSING THEIR VIEWS.
I HAVE SUBMITTED A MEMO FOR THE RECORD THAT SHOWS THE CASE LAW PROVES THAT THERE IS NO RIGHT TO A VIEW.
SO ALL OF THESE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING ARE REALLY A RUSE TO HELP THEM PROTECT THEIR VIEW CORRIDORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT ISN'T FAIR TO MY CLIENT TO BE PENALIZED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE.
MR. FOXMAN, YOU KNOW, SAID TO YOU THAT HE SAID HE MIGHT OR HE'S THOUGHT ABOUT BUILDING FOUR STORIES ON HIS HOUSE, BUT I HANDED YOU AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, I PLAN TO BUILD ON MY PROPERTY.
RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE HE'S NOT READY DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT MY CLIENT SHOULD BE HELD BACK.
WE ARE OPEN TO MAKE CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE DESIGN.
WE CAN ADD THE TRAVELER PLUMS AS REQUESTED.
WE CAN REDUCE THE DRIVEWAY IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT.
BUT I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN LATER WHEN THEY COMPLAIN THAT PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET.
MANY OF WHICH ARE SERVICING THE VISTA'S BUILDING BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH GUEST PARKING FOR 48 UNITS AND ALL THE WORKERS FOR RENOVATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ON IN THERE.
SO, I, I IMPLORE YOU TO BE OBJECTIVE IN YOUR COMMENTS BACK TO US AND TO THINK ABOUT THE RIGHTS THAT THIS FAMILY HAS TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY THAT DOESN'T CREATE IMPACTS, DOESN'T CREATE 14 NEW RESIDENCE RESIDENCES ON THE STREET THAT DOESN'T CREATE THREE NEW RESIDENCES ON THIS STREET.
THIS IS INTENDED TO BE ONE HOUSE WITH ONE FAMILY AND ONE SET OF TRAFFIC.
DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING, THIS IS A REDUCTION, THE FACT THAT IT'S LARGE IS OKAY BECAUSE IT'S WHAT'S ALLOWED BY THE CODE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND IT IS CHARACTERIZED BY LARGE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND TAKE THE FEEDBACK.
AND IF YOU'RE READY TO VOTE TODAY, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR CONTINUANCE.
UM, I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
UM, I'D LIKE, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE, UM, HI, UH, OH, MADAM CHAIR, IT'S COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE.
I I REALLY WASN'T GONNA SPEAK UNTIL I HEARD THE LAST CALLER, UH, OR THE LAST PERSON SPEAK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS
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TO TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE VIEWS.THAT'S HOW THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES.
THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTIES THINKING THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA BE THE SAME VIEW FOR THE NEXT, FOR, FOR, FOR THE, FOR FOR, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LAWS IN PLACE THAT PREVENT THESE SORTS OF DEVELOPMENTS FROM AGGREGATING INTO THREE LOTS.
WHY DOES IT EXIST? IT IS TO PREVENT THIS EXACT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK FOR ALL THE TALK THAT WE SAY, UH, WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND PARTICULARLY AT THE DRB.
UM, HERE'S A CLEAR CUT CASE WHERE THE RESIDENTS HAVE COME OUT.
THEY HAVE VERY MUCH DISAGREED WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND THE, THE, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO, UH, FOR, FOR OUR, OUR ZONING LAWS.
SO I, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT UPON YOU TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
UM, I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE, UM, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS POP UP OVER THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE THESE MINI MANSIONS, UH, NEXT TO THE, THE MOST CHARMING HOUSES.
SO THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UH, I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO AGAIN, AND AS, AS, UM, THE APPLICANT'S MENTIONED IN THEIR DISCUSSION THAT REALLY, I THINK THAT THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO ADDRESS AND QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAYBE FOCUS OUR DISCUSSION INITIALLY ON THE QUESTION OF VARIANCE THREE, WHICH IS AGGREGATING THE LOTS.
I THINK THAT THAT REALLY, THE WHOLE PROJECT REALLY HINGES ON, EXCUSE ME.
UM, WHAT I'M SAYING SOMETHING IS OUR APPROVAL OF THAT AGGREGATION.
UM, SO I, I GUESS I HAVE A, MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR LIO TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, I'M, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS PERHAPS WHY THIS, WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND NOT ALLOW IT TO ALLOWING TWO LOTS TO BE AGGREGATED BUT NOT THREE? SO THIS IS A, A CITYWIDE STANDARD FOR THE, FOR THE ARM ONE DISTRICT.
AND THE INTENT WAS, UM, THE ARM ONE DISTRICT IS A LOW INTENSITY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THE INTENT IS FOR THERE TO BE SMALLER APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND NOT THE LARGER APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE IN THE ARMED TWO AND ARMED THREE DISTRICTS.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE GOAL.
THE ARM ONE DISTRICT, YOU HAVE IT ON BELL ISLE, YOU HAVE IT IN FLAMINGO PARK, YOU HAVE IT IN NORTH BEACH, FEW AREAS IN MID BEACH.
AND YOU, AND THE, THE CONTEXT IS SMALLER, LOW SCALE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT OF THAT, THAT REGULATION SO THAT YOU DON'T END UP WITH A BLOCK LONG, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING THAT, THAT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN WITH THE BUILT CONTEXT.
UM, IN THIS AREA, AS, AS, AS WE MENTIONED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, THE LOTS ARE, ARE NOT, UH, TO THE STANDARD THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
THEY ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING LOTS.
SO WE CONSIDER THEM A LEGAL BUILDABLE LOT.
UM, BUT THEY CAN DEMONSTRATE A POTENTIAL PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY GIVEN THAT THEY ARE SMALLER, UM, SMALLER LOTS, UM, THAT DON'T MEET THE, UH, THE MINIMUM, UM, MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR A, FOR A STANDARD LOT TODAY.
AND, AND THEY WERE INITIALLY PLOTTED, OBVIOUSLY AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS OPPOSED TO MULTI-FAMILY HOMES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT IN THE MATERIALS YOU PROVIDED, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OR SOMEBODY HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THAT THERE WAS THE CITY WAS GONNA CHANGE THIS OR, UM, IS THERE BEEN EVER, I GUESS AT WHAT POINT DO YOU KNOW, DID THE ZONING CHANGE TO GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO MULTI-FAMILY? AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEEN ARM ONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I ACTUALLY, I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN HIGHER.
UM, IT WAS RM 100 BEFORE, UM, WE, WE PULLED THE ZONING MAPS TO THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY.
UM, ORIGINALLY BELL IS WAS A MANSION ISLAND.
THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, A, A DOZEN MANSIONS ON THE ISLAND.
UM, BUT STARTING IN THE FIFTIES, THE MANSION STARTED TO DISAPPEAR AND, AND REZONING ALLOWED FOR RM 100, WHICH IS A HUNDRED UNIT PER ACRE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN IN 1989 WHEN THE CITY'S MODERN CODE WAS ADOPTED, THE ZONING WAS CHANGED TO RM ONE, WHICH IS THE 60 UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1989 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO, ROGELIO.
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THIS WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, WOULD THEY STILL BE SEEKING THE SAME VARIANCE TO AGGREGATE THE THREE LOTS? YES.IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO, YEAH.
AND IF IT, IF IT WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO DO ANY SORT OF LIKE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS? BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING A LOT IS THIS, THIS ROAD IS BEING THE, THE BIG ISSUE.
UM, SO WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO MAYBE LIKE WIDEN, IMPROVE THE ROAD, MAKE THAT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY OR, UM, SO IF THEY HA, IF THEY WERE PROPOSING MORE THAN FI FIVE OR MORE UNITS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, AND POTENTIALLY AS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, THERE WOULD BE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO, UM, BUT AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I PRESUME THERE WOULD BE A, A, A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO HAVE INTERNALIZED LOADING OR, OR MAYBE WIDEN THEIR DRIVEWAY ACCESS SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
BUT I, I CAN'T TELL TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT.
I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE STREET, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, THERE'S NO SWALE.
UM, SO ROGELIO, IF IT WERE A MULTI-FAMILY, IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, UH, IF IT WAS FIVE UNITS OR MORE.
UM, WHICH NORMALLY WOULD BE FIVE VEHICLES OR MORE MM-HMM
AND THIS IS A POTENTIAL OF 10 VEHICLES.
UM, SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A ANSWER NOW, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO THEN SAY THIS SHOULD REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY? UM, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT OBVIOUSLY FOR THE NEXT MEETING WHEN THIS ITEM IS CONTINUED, WE CAN, YOU CAN SEND US THE INFORMATION, THE HEIGHT OF THE CURRENT AND THE FUTURE APPROVED STANDARD.
WHAT IS THAT? 'CAUSE I KEEP ON HEARING DIFFERENT HEIGHTS FOR THE CURRENT STANDARD OF, UH, 30 FEET AND 50 FEET.
UM, AND THEN WHAT IS THE CURRENT HEIGHT OF THE VISTAS CONDO? UM, THAT WAS BEFORE US TODAY.
UM, WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE VISTA'S CONDO? THE NUMBER OF UNITS THEY HAVE AND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE UNITS, INCLUDING GUEST PARKING.
UM, AS FAR AS THE VISTAS AND THE STANDARD CURRENT AND THE STANDARD PROPOSED, WHAT IS THE LOT SIZES AND THE UNIT SIZES THAT WERE APPROVED AND DID THEY GET APPROVED WITH ANY VARIANCES OR WAIVERS? MY NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER CITY LOCATIONS THAT HAVE AGGREGATED MORE THAN TWO LOTS THAT ARE IN THE RM ONE DISTRICTS? I KNOW THERE'S MORE THAN TWO LOTS IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RM ONE DISTRICTS.
UM, IF LOTS EIGHT, NINE, AND 10 WERE DEVELOPED SEPARATELY AS A HOME.
AND I'LL EMAIL YOU THESE QUESTIONS.
SO IF YOU DON'T GET
UM, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT TRAVELER PONDS ARE A HAVEN FOR RATS.
SO YOU MAY WANNA TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION 'CAUSE YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE WATER.
UM, THERE WAS A MENTION MADE, UM, THAT THIS PROPERTY LOT EIGHT IS HOMESTEADED, IT IS NOT ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE.
UM, IT IS OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
AND THE OTHER TWO LOT NINE AND 10 ARE LLCS.
UM, I ALSO FOUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LOT SIZES EIGHT, NINE, AND 10, UM, TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE TOTAL APPLICATION.
LOT SIZE A DIFFERENCE OF ONLY ABOUT A HUNDRED, UH, SQUARE FEET.
SO YOU MAY WANNA LOOK AT THAT.
UM, DID YOU WANT, DID YOU WANT HIM TO ANSWER THAT NOW OR IF YOU CAN ON ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FINE.
OTHERWISE WE CAN, A WE'RE LOOKING UP, THE, THE STANDARD DID COME RECENTLY, I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVED A LOT AGGREGATION VARIANCE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THEY WERE ADDING A DRIVEWAY, UM, TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND I BELIEVE THEY NEEDED TO ADD, UM, AN ADDITIONAL ONE OR TWO LOTS BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO THEY DID RECEIVE, UM, A LOT AGGREGATION VARIANCE FOR THE
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HEIGHT THE, THEY WERE PROPOSING, UM, A NEW BUILDING.I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE LOT.
THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE LOT IS REMAINING THE SAME.
I DON'T THINK THEY WERE, THEY WERE MAYBE UPDATING THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY WEREN'T, UH, PROPOSING NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK THE NEW CONSTRUCTION HAS AN EASTERN PORTION OF THE LOT.
AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK UP THE HEIGHT THAT WAS, THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THAT.
IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE ELEVATION FROM THE NEW STANDARD BUILDING.
UM, SO THIS IS THE VISTA'S FOOTPRINT ON THE PLATS THAT APPLY TO IT.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ON SEVEN FORMERLY SIX FORMERLY SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOTS AND A MULTI-FAMILY LOT, WHICH IS THE TRIANGULAR ONE.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE STANDARD ELEVATION SHOWS THAT THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS 70 FEET.
SO TO THE TOP OF ROOF IS 70 FEET TO THE TOP OF LEVEL FIVE IS, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK I'M READING THIS RIGHT.
BUT OVERALL WITH THE ACTIVE ROOF AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT, NOTWITHSTANDING THE ELEVATOR BULKHEADS, THE TOP OF ROOF IS SHOWN AS 70 FEET.
AND THAT'S THE NEW WING, NOT THE CURRENT ONE.
THE CURRENT CURRENT ONE, UM, I BELIEVE IS IN THIS LOWER, UM, ELEVATION.
AND IT SHOWS THAT THE EXTERIOR THIRD FINISHED FLOOR IS 33 FEET.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S I BELIEVE TRACKING THE, THE, THE, THE WESTERNMOST BUILDING.
I DON'T, IT'S HARD TO TELL ON THIS 'CAUSE THERE'S A DIAGONAL LINE, BUT THE, THE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, IT SHOWS EXTERIOR FINISHED FLOOR 33 FEET AND GVD 24 FEET.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE ABUTTING BUILDING TO MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
AND, AND, UM, TO ADDRESS, UM, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD, YOU'RE CORRECT, THIS WAS HOMESTEADED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, THEY'VE SINCE MOVED OUT BECAUSE THE FAMILY DOESN'T FIT IN THERE ANYMORE.
BUT IT IS OWNED INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN THE LLCS ARE 100% OWNED BY MICHAEL SAGER AS WELL WAS.
SO THE, YEAH, THE HEIGHT PROPOSED FOR THE STANDARD WAS 55 FEET.
UM, AND THAT'S FOR THE, THE NEW BUILDING ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE LOT.
IS THAT FERRY LANE CLOSER TO FERRY LANE ON FERRY? NOT ON FAIR LANE.
NOT ON FERRY LANE, BUT CLOSER.
YEAH, IT'S NOT NEXT TO CENTURY LANE.
UM, THEY RECEIVED AN A LOT AGGREGATION VARIANCE TO OBTAIN A LOT ON FERRY LANE FOR THEIR DRIVEWAY.
BUT THE INITIAL PROPERTY IS MUCH LARGER.
THEN YEAH, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE WHOLE LENGTH.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, YOU HAD SOME QUESTION, UH, THERE QUESTIONS ON WHAT THEY COULD DO IF THEY WERE SEPARATE? LOTS THAT I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME MATH ON THAT SO I CAN, I CAN HAVE THAT FOR YOU FOR THE NEXT, UH, WELL ALSO, CAN I INTERRUPT, BUT WOULD YOU SAY THOUGH THAT IT COULD BE LIKE WHAT WAS ALREADY BILLED ON CENTURY LANE NUMBER 11? THE VERY TALL, SKINNY, POTENTIALLY.
I MEAN THAT SEEMS TO BE MM-HMM
UM, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT.
I HAVE MORE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD, WOULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
WHAT THEY JUST BUILT? YES, I'VE BEEN TO THE AREA.
UM, LET ME ASK YOU, CAN YOU PUT UP THE, UM, SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE VISTAS AND THE PROPOSED, UM, EITHER ONE OF THEM? WHERE IS THE VISTA'S ENTRANCE? SINCE ALL OF YOU ARE HERE? WASN'T THE END OF, OH, HERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A, UM, GIMME ONE SECOND THERE.
I DON'T, I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION.
IT, IT SHOWS, IT'S A, YEAH, THERE'S ANOTHER MODEL THERE THAT, UM, MINE, MINE AREN'T NUMBERED
THAT, ISN'T THAT THE ENTRANCE IN THE, THE CORNER? YES.
SO THE VISTAS HAS A, AN ENTRANCE, UM, AT THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN WHERE YOU SEE THAT, UM, CIRCULAR AREA THAT'S, IT'S OUR RENDERING SHOWS IT AS GRASS, BUT THAT IS THEIR FRONT ENTRANCE.
AND THEN THERE'S A SECONDARY ENTRANCE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE WATERWAY FOR THE GARAGE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE GARAGE FOR THE GARAGE.
AND I THINK THERE'S GARAGE AND DUMPSTERS AND OTHER THINGS THERE.
ARE THERE ANY BUILDINGS ON, OH WAIT, UM, I'M SORRY.
IN ORDER TO, UM, SEE, HEAR YOU, WE NEED TO COME UP TO A MICROPHONE.
UM, HOWEVER THE PUBLIC PORTION IS CLOSED FOR NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDING ADDITIONAL.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS LET US HAVE OUR DISCUSSION AND THEN YEAH.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST BEGINNING.
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HEIGHT OF THE, WELL, UH, THE VARIANCE WAS PROVIDED.I THINK IT, IT HAS SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE VISTAS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S MEASURED FROM GRADE.
I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME IT WOULD'VE BEEN MEASURED FROM GRADE 58 FEET.
WHAT IS, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS 58 FEET? THE HEIGHT OF THE VISTAS.
ACCORDING TO THIS VARIANCE, UM, THAT WAS PASSED OUT.
UM, WE'LL, WE WILL LOOK UP THE PLANS AND GET YOU, UH, AND ENSURE THAT THAT'S CORRECT, BUT THAT, THAT GENERALLY SEEMS TO BE IN THE RANGE OF WHAT'S CORRECT.
ARE THERE SPECIFIC REASONS? LIKE, DID, DID YOU WANNA EXPRESS, WERE YOU GOING SOMEWHERE WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANNA SHARE NOW? NO, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT'S SURROUNDS THIS, DEVELOP THIS HOME THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD, TO KNOW WHAT'S AROUND IT.
IS IT GONNA BE TALLER? IS IT GONNA BE LOWER? UM, WHERE ARE THE ENTRANCES TO THE VISTAS TO THE HOME? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT CENTURY LANE? IT'S JUST FOR MY INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A CONCLUSION, UM, TOGETHER WITH THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE ARCHITECTS.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU THINK THE INTENT OF THE NEW DESIGN COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH TWO SEPARATE BLENDS? ORIGINAL? YEAH.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE, THE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME OUT DAYS AGO AFTER WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
UM, AND THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY NO.
IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST COMMENT THAT SUGGESTS ELIMINATING THE, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THE ENCLOSED CONNECTOR, BUT THE CORRIDOR, UH, WHICH COULD BE COMPLETELY SOLID AND BUILT OUT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S MINIMIZED IN GLASS.
IT HAS, UH, PLANTS, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ARE TWO SEPARATE STAIRWELLS.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BRACE SOMETHING UNTIL YOU NEED TWO SEPARATE STAIRWELLS BY FIRE CODE, YOU ALSO, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, WILL HAVE TWO SEPARATE ELEVATORS.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU HAVE STROLLERS, PARENTS, UH, ELDERLY PARENTS LIVING, YOU KNOW, VISITING.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TWICE THE MASSING.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE ELEVATOR BULKHEADS, THE STAIR BULKHEADS.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, WITH, WITH THE FIRE CODE, IF YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE FIRE AREAS WHICH ARE DEFINED AS EXTERIOR WALL ENCLOSURE.
SO IF YOU BREAK THIS OUT, UH, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FIRE HOSE CONNECTION ON THE ROOF.
SO NOW THE STAIRCASE NEEDS TO EXTEND ABOVE THE ROOF LINE.
YOU HAVE THAT, UH, STAIRCASE BULKHEAD, WHICH RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MINIMIZED BY HAVING THIS AS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO VERY SINCERELY, THIS WAS WORKED ON TIRELESSLY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, CREATED THIS AFTER WE GOT THE, UH, THE, THE NEW COMMENT.
BUT THESE CONSIDERATIONS HAVE VERY SINCERELY ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED.
UH, WHICH IS WHY I WAS VERY STRONGLY SUGGESTING THIS BE APPROVED TODAY BECAUSE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN A LARGER MASSING AND A LARGER IMPACT AND MORE IMPOSING STRUCTURE THAN WHAT IS PROPOSED.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ADDING ADDITIONAL PLANTERS ON THE ROOF? LIKE, LIKE DO YOU SEE IN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SUCH AS PALMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO LESSEN THE WELL, YES.
SO WHAT WE DID, IF YOU SEE IN THE, THE RENDERINGS YEAH.
IS THERE ALMOST THE ENTIRE PERIMETER IS COVERED WITH OVERHANGING PLANTS AND THE, IN THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS HERE.
THE REASON WE DID THAT IS TO SOFTEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EDGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO YOU REALLY, YOU SEE GREENERY IN GLASS AND, AND THAT'S IT.
UM, WHEN LOOKING THROUGH HERE, WHICH IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTHING MORE MINIMAL THAN THAT.
THE REASON WE DIDN'T DO ADDITIONAL TREES OR THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT WOULD ADD TO THE VERTICALITY OF IT.
SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY SUPPRESSED.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AS FAR AS THE, THE HEIGHT, AND WE HAVE THE CONTEXT ELEVATIONS IN HERE AND IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL NGVD, YOU KNOW, THE FLOOD ELEVATION HEIGHT, AND COMPARING THIS IN CONTEXT, THIS HOUSE IS, IS SHORTER.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE ELEVATOR BULK CAUSE THE STAIRCASE BULKHEAD ON THE ROOF.
IT SAYS, UH, 7.2 0.4 0.3, NO MORE THAN TWO CONTINUOUS LOTS MAY BE AGGREGATED FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROJECTS CLASSIFIED AS AFFORDABLE AND OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, ANYTHING IN THERE IN THE PROJECT? UH, IT WOULD NEED TO BE A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, I'D LIKE, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE TO GABRIEL THAT, YOU KNOW, I KEEP, AGAIN, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS VARIANCE NUMBER THREE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE LINCHPIN OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE CODE IS VERY CLEAR.
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IT SAYS NO MORE THAN TWO LOTS CAN BE AGGREGATED UNLESS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.SO I GOTTA SAY I'M INCLINED NOT TO APPROVE VARIANCE NUMBER THREE.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S AN IMPORTANT INTENT AS TO WHY THIS VARIANCE IS THE WAY IT IS.
THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A HARDSHIP IN THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE CLIENTS WERE AWARE OF THE SIZE, LOCATION, EVERYTHING OF THE LOT WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT.
I DON'T SEE, I HAVE, I GENERALLY SPEAKING, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE ARE THE LAWS, THESE ARE THE REGULATIONS.
EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO FOLLOW THESE REGULATIONS.
THESE REGULATIONS ARE HERE FOR A REASON.
THEY'RE PROBABLY VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT BY CITY PLANNERS, CITY OFFICIALS, STAFF, EVERYBODY.
I, I, I DON'T SEE A REASON BEYOND THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO NOT FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHERE, IF YOU WERE IN, IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, I'M BRINGING UP THE POINT.
YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT, I THINK WE CREATE A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE APPROVE THIS BECAUSE WE APPROVE IT ONCE, THEN WE'RE CREATING A PRECEDENT TO CONTINUE DOING IT.
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY HAVING WITH OVERDEVELOPMENT, THAT WE'RE MAKING EXCEPTIONS EVERY TIME.
AND I THINK ALSO IN THIS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, CONTEXT, THIS IS SUCH A SMALL STREET AND, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM HERE.
AND IF, IF I, I THINK THAT THERE WAS, UH, AN OVERSIGHT, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN, I THINK MAYBE EIGHT DIFFERENT HOMES PROPOSED FOR THESE LOTS WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO FIVE STORIES.
AND SO PEOPLE DO, AND WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH MANY TIMES AND YOU END UP WITH THESE VERY AWKWARD LOOKING BUILDINGS BECAUSE THE LOT SIZES ARE VERY SMALL.
AND INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, I COULD BUILD THIS HIGH, BUT I WANNA BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONTEXT, THE DECISION IS ALWAYS LET'S MAXIMIZE IT OUT.
AND I, I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER, ALTHOUGH SOME PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A PROPOSAL, A DESIGN THAT ISN'T AWKWARD AND DOESN'T REALLY STRETCH THE CONTEXT.
AND I THINK PART OF THE FAULT IS THAT MAYBE, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE WITH THE COMMISSION, THAT THE ZONING OF THESE LOTS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IT NOW IS, IT COMES TO US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, TO LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS, PROPERTY OWNERS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, OKAY, IS THIS APPROPRIATE? IS THIS A GOOD USE OF THESE PROPERTIES OF THE ZONING? DOES IT MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE? AND AGAIN, I KEEP GOING BACK IN THIS INSTANCE, I WOULDN'T MIND IT IF YOU WERE, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE IF YOU WANTED TO AGGREGATE LOTS NINE AND 10.
I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE IF YOU WANTED TO AGGREGATE LOTS SEVEN AND EIGHT.
THAT MAKE, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I WENT TO CENTURY LANE YESTERDAY AND I STOOD THERE FOR A WHILE AND SORT OF LOOKED AND ABSORBED.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM, AND YOU'VE POINTED IT OUT NUMEROUS TIMES IN YOUR PRESENTATION, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT LOT NUMBER EIGHT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ODD SHAPED.
AND THERE IS A STREET THAT ESSENTIALLY BLOCKS OR CUTS BETWEEN PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, NUMBER CENTURY LANE EIGHT AND NINE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT MAKES THIS EVEN MORE AWKWARD AND MORE, UM, DIFFICULT TO AGGREGATE.
SO I, AND I, I WANT, I WANNA BE HELPFUL.
I REALLY HAVE, I REALLY LIKE, I'M, I'M IMPRESSED STAFF HAS COME UP WITH A, UM, A COMPROMISE HERE.
I THINK THAT, THAT YOU KNOW OF, OF, YES, WE LIKE THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING THE FOUR LEVELS OF WALKWAY, BUT I, I KEEP GOING BACK TO, I DON'T THINK THAT THESE LOTS SHOULD BE AGGREGATED AND IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE WITH OUR VOTE, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT'S, THAT'S THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
I'M HAPPY TO HELP AND WORK WITH YOU AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND DO OTHER THINGS ARCHITECTURALLY.
AND, UH, IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR RESPECTFULLY, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE TO LIMIT THE LOT AGGREGATION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE COMPLETELY OVERSIZED LOTS.
RIGHT? THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN RM ONE IS 5,600 SQUARE FEET.
SO IF YOU DID A THREE LOT AGGREGATION, YOU'D BE AT 16,800 SQUARE FEET.
THE AGGREGATION OF THESE THREE LOTS AT 10,200 AND CHANGE IS STILL LESS THAN WHAT TWO MINIMUM SIZED LOTS IN RM ONE THAT MEET THE CODE WOULD BE, WHICH IS 11,200.
SO IN PURSUING THE VARIANCE, WE LOOKED AT IT AND, AND YOU KNOW, STAFF AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH US ABOUT IT, THAT YOU'RE, THE, THE LOT AGGREGATION REQUEST IS NOT UNREASONABLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
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EVEN MEET THE THRESHOLD FOR WHAT TWO MINIMUM COMBINED LOTS WOULD BE.AND YET YOU COULD HAVE A, A, YOU COULD HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IF YOU COMBINED LOTS, YOU KNOW, NINE AND 10, I MEAN THAT HOMES LIKE THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, WE ALREADY APPROVED AN ENTIRE SINGLE FAMILY HOME FOR LOT THREE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THESE LOTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD HOMES ON.
YOU CAN HAVE THESE STRUCTURES, BUT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO IS AGAINST THE CODE.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S SORT OF WHY YOU'RE HERE.
AND IT'S UP TO US TO WEIGH IT OUT.
I MEAN, IN THE PAST THOUGH, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS EITHER GONE TO PLANNING OR GONE TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
HOW COME IT'S NOW HERE AT THE DRB OR UM, THE DRB, THE VARIANCES ARE, THE DRB HAS THE ABILITY, ABILITY TO APPROVE VARIANCES.
UM, PRIOR TO 2016 IT WOULD'VE GONE TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
BUT IN 2016, THE, THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER VARIANCES WAS GRANTED TO THE DRB.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YES.
UH, IF YOU TAKE LOTS, UH, NINE AND 10 AND THE LOT SIZES OF THOSE TWO COMBINED IS ABOUT 5,700.
SO IF YOU JUST BUILD ON LOTS NINE AND 10 AND YOU HAVE 5,700 LOT SIZE ON THOSE TWO LOTS, YOU'RE RESTRICTED BY A MUCH SMALLER, UH, UNIT SIZE AND LOT COVERAGE.
THAT MAKES IT QUITE DIFFICULT TO BUILD A LITTLE HOUSE ON THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOTS, PROBABLY EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THEY'RE AGGREGATING NOW LOT EIGHT.
UH, I THINK WE'RE DEALING AS A CITY, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS A BOARD WITH A SITUATION THAT OCCURRED YEARS AGO, AS YOU STATED, WHERE THIS WAS FIRST AN ISLAND OF MANSIONS IN THE FIFTIES, IT CHANGED TO RM 100, AND NOW IN THE EIGHTIES IT CHANGED TO RM ONE.
AND SO WE'RE DEALING WITH A COMBINATION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, VERY FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THE MAJORITY BEING CONDOMINIUMS, UM, THAT EXCEED THE SIZE, THE BULK, AND THE FEELING OF A SINGLE FAMILY AREA.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH NOW.
THAT'S WHY, UM, I ASKED YOU SOME OF THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I SAID, WELL, IF THEY KEEP IT AS THIS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS NOT A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S LEFT FOXMAN.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE CONDOMINIUM, UM, AND THE STANDARD THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
WE'LL SEE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, HOW DO, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP? LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH IT, WE DO 'CAUSE IT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF US.
THE A VARIANCE NEEDS A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, WHICH IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE MOVING THAT DIRECTION.
UM, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE APPLICANT, THE PROCESS? UM, I CAN I, CAN I JUST ADD THIS? I I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS AS AN ENTIRE PACKAGE AND NOT ADDRESS SINGLE REQUESTS FOR VARIANCES OR WAIVERS THAT ARE BEFORE US.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE AGGREGATION, THE WHOLE DESIGN HAS TO CHANGE AND WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT HAS TO CHANGE IF WE'RE CONTINUING THE PROJECT.
UM, I, I STILL NEED MORE INFORMATION BASED ON MY QUESTIONS BEFORE, UM, TO BE ABLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE AGGREGATE OR NOT.
UM, SO I, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT.
UH, I THINK WE TE WE CAN'T TAKE A PIECEMEAL IN SEPARATE MEETINGS.
I THINK WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IT, THEN LET'S CONTINUE IT AND LET'S GET MORE INFORMATION.
I, I THINK THEY GET THE DRAFT, THE DRAFT OF THE DRIFT OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S UH, UH, A GOOD FEELING OF NOT AGGREGATING THREE LOTS AND THEN THERE'S REASONS FOR AGGREGATING THREE LOTS.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
MY ANSWERS ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED VERY BRIEFLY.
YOU, WELL, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL OR, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALMOST SORT OF GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
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FOR NEXT TIME.UM, I MEAN, DO YOU WANNA IT'S, I WOULDN I, I I WANT SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU.
IF YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA, THAT'S WHY I WANNA ASK THE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO REGARDING THE, YOU KNOW, AGGREGATING THE, THE THREE UNDERSIZED PARCELS THAT DO NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF WHAT, UH, FOR THIS, THE REASON FOR THE MASSING RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PLANNING DIRECTED US TO DO, TO RESPECT THE HISTORICAL SETBACKS AS THOUGH THERE WAS A FRONT SETBACK AT THE DEAD END STREET.
THAT'S THE REASON IT'S SET IN SO MUCH, UH, AT THAT AREA.
AND YOU HAVE IT NARROW, YOU COULD ACTUALLY, I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY THAT THE REASON THE MASSING IS THE WAY IT'S DONE IS BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO HAVE BUILDINGS ON ALL THREE PROPERTIES.
YOU COULD HAVE ALSO MADE THE DECISION TO JUST BUILD A HOUSE ON LOTS NINE AND 10 AND THEN LEAVE LOT EIGHT AS OPEN SPACE, A YARD, A POOL, ALL OF THAT.
SO I REALIZE THAT, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT THE, THE REASON THIS IS, IS SETBACK VERY SINCERELY IS 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE DIRECTION OF PLAN TO RESPECT THE HISTORICAL SETBACKS AND THE PAST VARIANCES WERE GRANTED SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK IRREGULAR.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE FACADE, UH, WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN IN, IN THIS REPORT.
THE, THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS IT WOULD BE TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL VARIANCES OR TO NOT RESPECT THE HISTORICAL SETBACKS, UH, TO BUILD IN THAT AREA WHERE RIGHT NOW IT'S SET IN SO MUCH TO BRING THAT CLOSER OUT, UH, TO, TO THE STREET, UH, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD WASN'T DESIRED.
SO MY QUESTION IS, FOR YOUR DIRECTION, IT'S GONNA BE REVISIT OR LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU OPEN TO THAT MEANS INSTEAD OF HAVING IT SET IN TO WHERE YOU HAVE THE COURTYARD IN THE HOME, THAT IT'S BROUGHT OUT TO LOOK LIKE A MORE REGULAR SHAPE, BUT IT WILL BE CLOSER TO THE STREET AND MORE IMPOSING CAN, DO YOU HAVE AN AN LIKE A, A RENDERING OR AN IMAGE THAT YOU COULD SHOW THAT ILLUSTRATES YOUR QUESTION? WHERE EXACTLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
IN THE PRESENTATION, IS THERE A PICTURE? SEE LOTS UP RIGHT NOW AND I, I CAN SHOW A RENDERING TO YEAH.
UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT IS EIGHT AND THE RIGHT IS NINE AND 10.
SO IF YOU LOOK RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING HOME IS AT THE DEAD END STREET.
THE EXISTING HOME IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE STREET.
WHAT WE DID IN THE NEW DESIGN, IT'S SET BACK, UM, IT'S ALMOST 20 FEET, ABOUT 15 FEET IN FROM THE STREET SETBACK FROM THE STREET, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS REQUESTED TO RESPECT THE HISTORICAL SETBACKS.
AND THEN THE, THE MASSES ARE SETBACK FROM THAT MIDDLE LINE TO EACH SIDE TO RESPECT THOSE HISTORICAL SETBACKS AS IF THOSE WERE SIDE SETBACKS.
UH, WHEN REALLY WE FOLLOWING THE SETBACKS FOR ONE LOT, IT COULD BE JUST ONE STRUCTURE, UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT'D BE MORE CLOSER TO THE STREET WHERE THE EXISTING HOME IS RIGHT NOW.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CAN YOU JUST, IT'S, IT'S HARD.
IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE, YEAH, JUST POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY WHERE, I'M SORRY.
YEAH, I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WORKED.
SO THIS IS FROM THERE TO THE OCEAN TO THE BAY IS LAIE, RIGHT? AM I CORRECT? SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE TO THE LEFT, AND I'LL, I'LL JUST GO TO THE OVERHEAD.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS SETBACK SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE STREET.
AND THIS IS DIVIDED TO APPEAR LIKE TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES AS THOUGH, 'CAUSE IF THIS WAS A SEPARATE LOT, YOU HAD A SIDE SETBACK HERE AND A SIDE SETBACK THERE, AND WE WERE ASKED TO RESPECT THOSE HISTORICAL SETBACKS, IF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT STRAIGHT ACROSS AND NOT SETBACK LIKE THIS, THEN IT WOULDN'T LOOK AS UNIQUE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE LOOK LIKE A NORMAL STRUCTURE, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE STREET IN THE NEIGHBORS.
AND YOU'RE ASKING US IF IT WOULD BE OKAY TO GO BACK TO ESSENTIALLY A WIDER STRUCTURE, RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO REDESIGN, THAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE THAT I, THE ALTERNATIVE.
NO, AND I MEAN I PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ON YOUR END, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TAKEN SOME VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DIFFERENT LOT SIZES AND, AND THESE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LARGE FAMILY, UM, THAT ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, NUMBER EIGHT IS, AGAIN, IT'S AN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT.
WE'VE, WE'VE MET THESE CHALLENGES BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.
UM, THERE'S ALSO THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE ALSO UNIQUELY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MANY OTHER STREETS IN MIAMI BEACH THAT ARE THIS NARROW THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SWALE, ANY BREATHING ROOM AT ALL.
SO YOU'RE DEFINITELY FACED WITH A UNIQUE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES WHENEVER THINGS ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UM, I PERSONALLY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I DO THINK BREATHING ROOM IS NICE AND
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I UNDERSTAND THAT BY AGGREGATING THE PROPERTIES YOU ARE GETTING A BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM.IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE THREE PROPERTIES ARE NOT ALL REGULAR.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT'S FOR ME ALSO PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THE AGGREGATION, THAT IF, IF IT WAS, IF THEY WERE THREE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THIS WOULD FLOW BETTER AND MAYBE, AND, AND CERTAINLY IT WOULD AFFECT THE DESIGN, UM, BUT IT'S NOT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT CREATES THE CHALLENGE.
I DON'T, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION OF CAN YOU NOW, IF YOU'RE DOING IT SEPARATELY, CAN YOU MAKE IT WIDER BECAUSE I NEED TO BE PRESENTED WITH AN IDEA TO SEE IT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANOTHER OPINION.
AKIEL, UM, OH WAIT, SORRY, THAT'S ONE SECOND.
OH, GOTTA TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE, I OPINION.
THAT'S ONE SECOND ONE, GABRIEL.
ABOUT THE, THE VAR THE VARIANCE IN AGGREGATING.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY VARIANCE NUMBER THREE.
UM, CAN I JUST ASK YOU ONE QUESTION IN RM ONE, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF LOT COVERAGE AND UNIT SIZE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN THE LOT? SO ARM ONE DOESN'T HAVE UNIT SIZE.
FOR LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 60 FEET IN WIDTH, THERE IS A LOT COVERAGE LIMITATION OF 45%.
IF IT WAS O IF IT'S OVER THAT WIDTH, THEN THE LOT COVERAGE IS, IS UNLIMITED.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT THAT'S 4,600, LET'S SAY SQUARE FEET, YOU'RE LIMITED TO 45% OF THAT FOR LOT COVERAGE.
IN LOT NINE YOU HAVE 2,700 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY.
SO YOU'RE LIMITED TO 45% OF THAT LOT COVERAGE.
BUT YOU CAN GO UP FIVE STORIES, YOU CAN GO UP FIVE STORIES.
AND SO IT'D BE LIKE, UH, AN ELEVATOR SHAFT BASICALLY
AND IN LOT 10 YOU HAVE 3000 SQUARE FEET LOT.
SO 45 SQUARE FEET OF LOT COVERAGE OR 45% OF LOT COVERAGE WOULD MAKE THAT A LOT COVERAGE OF 1500.
I I THINK IF YOU COMBINE THOSE TWO, YOU WOULD EXCEED THE 65 FEET.
SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT SAME LOT COVERAGE ATION IF, IF YOU COMBINE NINE AND 10.
BUT IF YOU GO, YEAH, IT DEPENDS WHAT THEY COMBINE EIGHT AND NINE OR NINE AND NINE AND 10, UM, THEY CAN COMBINE NINE AND 10 AND LEAVE EIGHT AS GREEN SPACE.
AM I SAYING IT BACK? I SAID IT BACKWARDS.
YEAH, BUT THAT WOULD LIMIT THEM TO THEN, UM, LOTS NINE AND 10 TOGETHER ARE ABOUT 20, UM, I'M SORRY, 5,700 SQUARE FEET.
AND YOU'RE SAYING 60% WOULD BE THE LOT COVERAGE.
LET ME, LET ME JUST VERIFY THAT I'M GIVING YOU THE CORRECT NUMBER.
LOTS EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN 65 FEET IN WIDTH HAVE A 45% LOT, LOT LIMITATION.
LOTS LESS THAN 65 FEET IN WIDTH DO NOT HAVE THE LOT AGGREGATION LIMITATION.
SO NONE OF THESE I SAID IT BACK APOLOGIZE, OR SOME OF THESE HAVE THE LOT AGGREGATION CORRECT.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU AGGREGATED LOTS, UM, EIGHT AND NINE, YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT WITH OVER 65 FEET AND YOU WOULD NOT AND YOU WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE LOT 45%.
AND IF YOU AGGREGATED NINE AND 10, LET'S SEE, WITH THE LOT WIDTH, I DON'T HAVE THE LOT WIDTH.
I JUST HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
DO YOU HAVE THE LOT WITH YES, I HAVE.
SO EIGHT ALONE IS DEFINITELY LESS THAN 65 FEET.
EACH LOT IS LESS THAN 65 FEET WIDE.
SO IF YOU AGGREGATED NINE AND 10 TOGETHER, THERE IS THE 45% LIMIT IN THE CODE.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I'LL SAY EIGHT DOESN'T HAVE THE COVERAGE, UH, LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN 65 FEET IN WIDTH.
AND IF YOU LOOKED AT, UH, EIGHT AND NINE TOGETHER FOR EXAMPLE, UM, NEITHER IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE AS A PARCEL, THE WIDTH ON BOTH OF THOSE IS LESS THAN 65%.
SO THERE'S NO LOT COVERAGE LIMIT IF YOU COMBINE THOSE EITHER.
AND THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF APPROXIMATELY, UM, THAT WOULD BE, SO IT'S 3045, THAT'D ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET, ABOUT 75, 7600 SQUARE FEET WITH NO RESTRICTION ON LOT COVERAGE.
SO IF THEY TAKE EIGHT AND NINE, WHICH LOT EIGHT IS THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE OCEAN TO THE BAY, THEY COULD BASICALLY BUILD ALL THE WAY TO ALMOST THE BOUNDARY LINES WITH THE
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EXCEPTIONS OF THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.ROGELIO, YES, BECAUSE, AND FIVE FEET UP.
BUT THEN, THEN WHEN YOU AGGREGATE IT WILL BE BIGGER THAN 65 FEET.
WELL IT GOES BY THE WIDTH BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH.
IT DOESN'T BECAUSE OF THAT ONE SORT OF SMALLER PINCH POINT IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE, IT'S THE MINIMUM WIDTH.
IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING? YEAH.
HE'S LOOKING WIDTH IS USUALLY YEAH.
THE, THE ONLY REASON FOR VERY IRREGULAR.
THE ONLY REASON FOR A LOT COVERAGE LIMIT IS IF NINE AND 10 ARE AGGREGATED.
SEE, AND, AND IF WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY HERE NOW, FIGURING OUT THE LOT WIDTHS AND WHAT ZONING APPLIES TO IT, WHEN IT PERTAINS TO LOT COVERAGE AND UNIT SIZE, LET'S GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN LET'S MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING FOR SOME OF THIS BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, LET'S NOT AGGREGATE, I, I AGREE, I DON'T LIKE MORE THAN TWO LOTS.
THERE'S A REASON FOR NOT HAVING MORE THAN TWO LOTS.
BUT THESE LOTS ARE SO SMALL, SO IRREGULAR THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO NOT AGGREGATE THE THREE LOTS? WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY BUILD ON ONLY TWO LOTS? ARE THEY GONNA COME BACK TO US WHERE THEY MUCH MORE HUGE STRUCTURE THAT IS EVEN MORE OUT OF PLACE BECAUSE NOW THEIR LOT COVERAGE DOESN'T PERTAIN THE PERCENTAGE OF LOT COVERAGE DOESN'T PERTAIN TO THE TWO LOTS THAT THEY'RE AGGREGATING.
AND IF I CAN JUST ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S HELPFUL.
UM, IF WE HAD MENTIONED KIND OF THE, THE PINCH POINTS AT THE DEAD END STREET, UM, OTHER THAN BUILDING OUT CLOSER TO THE STREET, I DON'T KNOW THE ALLOWANCE OR THE PROCESS.
THE ONLY WAY I SEE IT TO MAKE THIS MORE REGULAR WOULD BE TO SEED SOME OF THAT DEAD END STREET TO THE PROPERTY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE MORE OF A FRONT YARD AND GREEN SPACE BUFFER.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS OR IF THAT'S ALLOWED COMMISSION ACTION FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S, I CAN'T IMAGINE, I THINK YOU'RE DIGGING YOUR WHOLE LEGAL YEAH, I CAN'T IMAGINE THE, I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP THERE
THAT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND IT TAKES, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THIS BOARD TO APPROVE WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
I WAS JUST ASKING AS AN IDEA IF THE, AND IT ALSO RESTRICTS THEIR ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE EVEN FURTHER.
MADAM CHAIR, THERE'S A, I'M GONNA CALL THE QUESTION.
SO WE HAVE A, A, A MOTION BY MR. PAZ, SECOND BY MR. LESTER, UH, TO DENY VARIANCE NUMBER THREE.
UM, SHOULD WE DO A ROLL CALL OR WOULD YOU OR, OR A VOICE VOTE? DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? UH, NO.
WELL LET'S DO A, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
IS NOT APPROVING THE VARIANCE, CORRECT? YES.
IS TO DENY VARIANCE NUMBER THREE YES.
SO THAT'S, UM, FOUR TO ONE IN A DENIAL OF A VARIANCE.
A MAJORITY, UH, OF MAJORITY OF THE QUORUM, UM, RULE.
VARIANCE NUMBER THREE IS DENIED.
SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE? I, I ALSO, I DO, DESPITE THAT VOTE, I DO WANNA BE CONSTRUCTIVE TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, HOW, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? AND, AND WHAT ABOUT THE REST? DOES THIS DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE NEGATE EVERYTHING ELSE? I GUESS THEY WOULD NEED TO REVISE THE PROJECT AND REMOVE ONE OF THE LOTS.
THE CHOICE WOULD BE THEIRS, WHICH LOT TO REMOVE AND, UH, WORK WITH THE REST OF THE WORK TO REDESIGN WITH THOSE TWO LOTS.
UM, IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK WE'D ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER REQUESTS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO ACCOMMODATE A REDESIGN.
SO WE MAY NEED TO RE ADVERTISE.
UM, SO I WOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THE OTHER ITEMS TO GIVE US TIME.
AND I, I THINK TO NO DATE CERTAIN AT THIS POINT, MAYBE, UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE READY BY JULY IF I'M BEING HONEST.
UM, IT'S 'CAUSE THIS IS A BIG REWORK.
SO, UM, WE COULD EITHER MAYBE DO IT TO THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA OR, OR GIVE US, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO RE ADVERTISE WHEN WE'RE READY UNDER THE SAME PROCESS NUMBER WE CAN.
SO YOU CAN DEFER THE APPLICATION.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL RE ADVERTISE WHEN WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM AND THEY CAN AGGREGATE JUST TWO LOTS AND THE THIRD LOT WOULD NOT BE UNDER THE SAME HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
AND THIS IS MY THINKING, BUT IT COULD BE JUST A LOT THAT HAS A POOL AND, UM, GREEN SPACE, LET'S SAY.
I, I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE, UH, THOSE ARE ACCESSORY USES
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TO A PRIMARY USE AND THE PRIMARY USE HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.SO YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE A, A RESIDENTIAL LOT WITH A POOL AND A POOL POOL ON THE, MAKES IT AN ACCESSORY USE.
BUT IF YOU JUST LEAVE IT AS GREEN SPACE, WOULD THAT ALSO BE CONSIDERED ACCESSORY USE? I THINK IT HAS TO HAVE A, A GUEST HOUSE OR SOMETHING ON IT, RIGHT? SOME STRUCTURE THAT SOME STRUCTURE.
YOU COULD BUILD A SMALL APARTMENT.
A A A SMALL RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON IT.
A DU IT COULD BE THAT TO IT OR NO.
UM, AN A DU WOULD NOT MEET THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE REQUIREMENTS MOST LIKELY.
SO, BUT YOU COULD HAVE A SMALL ONE UNIT HOME ON IT ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT WOULD BE COULD A CABANA? A CABANA? YEAH.
EH, A CABANA'S NOT A, A CABANA WOULDN'T BE A UNIT.
YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE A UNIT, A LEGAL UNIT ON THE SITE.
I KNOW THERE IS, THERE WAS A PROPERTY ON NORTH BAY ROAD THAT WE HAD APPROVED AND THEY JUST BUILT A TENNIS COURT ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, I MEAN, MAYBE THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SMALL
SO, SO FOR SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS YOU CAN AGGREGATE THREE LOTS, BUT THE THIRD LOT HAS TO BE USED FOR OPEN SPACE AND CANNOT COUNT TOWARDS YOUR MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
YOU CAN ALSO MOVE THE HOME SO THAT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THREE LOTS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF SPACE AS, AS THE SMALLEST LOT FOR OPEN SPACE.
UM, I MEAN THAT MIGHT BE, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE MODEL.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S MORE OF A MODEL FOR WHAT, BECAUSE THE RM, THE RM ONE LAWS ARE THINKING MORE OF MULTIFAMILY HOMES, BUT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MM-HMM
AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY BETTER AND BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT WHAT WE ALL SEEM TO BE SAYING, AND I THINK EVEN WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, IS THAT, AND, AND THE CHALLENGE IS TAKING, IS THAT YOU'RE COMBINING DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WHEREAS THE ZONING AND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE REALLY DEALING WITH MULTIFAMILY HOMES.
AND SO MAYBE IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ZONING AS A MODEL, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD SEEM ACCEPTABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
CAN THE THIRD LOT BE RECONFIGURED OR USED FOR LIKE A GYM OR SAUNA AND A POOL AND THEN ONE SINGLE FAMILY, ONE SINGLE UNIT IN IT AS WELL? YEAH.
IF, IF THEY HAD ONE UNIT, THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE GYM AND, AND AS PART OF THAT UNIT, AS AN ACCESSORY TO THAT UNIT ACCESS, YOU COULD HAVE A GUEST HOUSE, GUEST POOL, AND A SOFT JUST WOULD NEED TO HAVE KITCHEN.
AND YOU WOULD NEED, YOU WOULD NEED A FULL UNIT ON THERE THOUGH, FOR IT TO BE ACCESSORY TO THAT RESIDENTIAL UNIT WITH KITCHEN, BATHROOM.
I MEAN WE APPROVED AN ENTIRE HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY ALREADY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DESIGN CHOICES.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO UHHUH APPROVING, BUT NOT COMBINING ALL THREE.
LIKE WE JUST WANTED BY SAYING THAT, WOULD YOU, IF, IF THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE MAIN HOUSE, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA OVERSTEP HERE,
WOULD YOU, AND YOU CAME AND SAID, CAN WE AGGREGATE THE PROPERTY FOR THAT USE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED? I WOULD APPROVE THAT.
SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.
YOU THINK THAT'S A BETTER USE OF THE MASSING AND, AND SOMETHING ELSE? I JUST WANNA SAY TO BE MORE CONSTRUCTIVE FOR THE, THE NEXT TIME YOU GUYS COME THROUGH.
I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC IS THIS CENTURY LANE'S VERY IMPORTANT AND, AND THE, THE EXPERIENCE, THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE SPECIFICALLY HERE.
SO, UH, TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACKS AND YOU BEING, YOU KNOW, MORE LEANING TOWARDS THE HISTORICAL SETBACKS, WOULD WE BE OPPOSED TO BRINGING THE SETBACKS CLOSER TO THE STREET? I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO SEEING THAT.
I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT SOMETIMES HELPS THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS WHEN YOU DO PRESENT NEXT TIME, I THINK IF WE COULD GET SOME, SOME VIEWPOINTS FROM HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A BIG HELP HERE.
ESPECIALLY ASSUMING YOU'RE COMBINING NINE AND 10 AND REALIZING THAT YOU MAY NEED TO GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND BRING THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREET.
ARE THEY ALLOWED TO COME BACK WITH THE VARIANCE AGAIN IF THEY READJUSTED THE DESIGN? AND I, I THINK SO.
YOU CAN COME, IF, IF YOU CAME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT, ANY A DIFFERENT DESIGN, YOU COULD ASK FOR DIFFERENT VARIANCES, CORRECT.
UM, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE ON A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO LIKE NOW, UM, AND LEAVE IT OPEN FOR US, UM, WITHOUT THE DENIAL, I THINK.
'CAUSE IT, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM AFTER US ON THE AGENDA.
SO THE ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN.
I ALSO WANT TO USE THE BEFORE THE NEXT ITEM'S CALLED, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WE CAN, CAN, I ALWAYS, I THOUGHT THAT A MOTION TO RECONSIDER CAN HAPPEN AT A FOLLOWING MEETING,
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BUT I ALSO WANT TO PUT THE TIME THIS MEETING.CAN'T WE JUST CONTINUE AND SOMEONE WHO LET CONTINUE IT TO THE MONTH OF, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
CAN'T WE DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE REST OF THE YES.
PROJECT FOR THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? WE DON'T MEET IN AUGUST.
SO TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OR BEFORE IF THEY'RE READY.
WELL THOUGH, I GUESS, I MEAN, I TO YOUR POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING BEFORE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER EVERYTHING BEFORE PICKING IT APART.
I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I'M REALIZING IS THAT BY SAYING, OH, IF IT WAS DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY, MAYBE WE'D BE MORE OPEN TO THE AGGREGATION.
IT SEEMS LIKE NOW WE'RE MOVING TO THAT TERRITORY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LEAVES US IN TERMS OF, I I WOULD SAY BASED ON THAT MOTION RIGHT NOW, THEY CANNOT COME BACK WITH A PROJECT THAT HAS THREE LOTS.
AH, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION WAS IF THE THIRD LOT IN THE FAR LEFT IS AN EIGHT, I THINK YES, THAT ONE WAS STEP DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY TO SOME ONE STORY OR A POOL HOUSE TYPE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE, I THINK AMEN FOR MOST PEOPLE.
BUT WITH THE VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN BY THIS BOARD, THEY CANNOT COME BACK.
I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WITH AN AGGREGATION OF THREE LOTS.
THAT'S I WAS IT WOULD TO BE SEPARATE RECOMMENDING STRUCTURE TO NOT SEPARATE THIS UNTIL JUST GIVE THEM, THEY GET THE FEEDBACK.
I THINK THEY ARE LOUD AND CLEAR.
LET'S LEAVE IT OPEN AND VOTE ON IT.
UH, EXCEPT THE ONLY THING IS AGAINST THAT IS WE'RE MAKING THE AGGREGATION CONDITIONAL ON THE DESIGN.
BUT I'M THINKING LONG TERM, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS THIS PROPERTY, THIS IS ITS OWNER.
BUT I, I I THINK THAT IT'S NOT, I DON'T SEE IT AS CONDITIONAL.
IF THEY COME BACK STILL WITH AN AGGREGATION OF THREE LOTS AND THE DESIGN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE MM-HMM.
UM, STILL VOTE THAT'S FAVORABLE.
WE CAN STILL DENY THE AGGREGATION OF THE THREE LOTS AND DENY.
WELL I JUST WONDER IF WE'RE SENDING A A PRECEDENT FOR NOW, ONCE WE AGGREGATE THE PROPERTIES, THE PROPERTIES ARE AGGREGATED AND ANYTHING CAN BE BUILT THERE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
I THINK IT, IT DEPENDS WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.
IF THEY COME BACK WITH OPEN SPACE WITH, AND A AND A RESTRICTION THAT IT NOT BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE, THEN THAT'S OKAY FOR SOME OF US COMFORTABLE.
BUT IF THEY COME BACK WITH A SEPARATE STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF IT, ON THE THIRD LOT, THEN THAT MAY NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE, I PERSONALLY THINK THERE'S WAYS TO GET AWAY WITH DOING, HAVING IT STILL BE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST PUT UP A FENCE BETWEEN THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CHANGE IT AROUND YOU.
DON'T, I, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AGGREGATING THESE THREE PROPERTIES, REGARDLESS OF THE DESIGN.
IF YOU WANNA GET THE DESIGN APPROVED IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA DO, BUT, BUT I AT LEAST THAT I, I THINK THAT THAT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THESE PROPERTIES SHOULD BE AGGREGATED.
SO THEN ROGELIO, IF, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS COME BACK WITH AN AGGREGATION OF JUST THE TWO LOTS, WHICHEVER TWO LOTS THEY PICK.
AND THE THIRD LOT, BECAUSE THEY OWN IT.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A HOME ON IT.
THAT COULD BE FIVE STORIES, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE LOT COVERAGE AND UNIT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ZONING.
BUT THEY CANNOT COME BACK WITH AN ACCESSORY USE TO THOSE TWO LOTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ON.
IT CANNOT BE A POOL, IT CANNOT BE A TENNIS COURT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A FULL SERVICE STANDALONE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ANY OTHER, UM, DIRECTION OR RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? ANYTHING ELSE? I, I THINK ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GETTING AND THE IMPRESSION, LIKE, I, I CLEARLY THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO LIKE ABOUT THE DESIGN IS THIS SORT OF STEP BACK MOTION THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERN, UM, TO CREATE A CANYON EFFECT.
AND AGAIN, LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, VERY, THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROPERTY.
UM, BUT, BUT I, I THINK THAT THAT ALSO SEEMS TO BE OF DEEPEST CONCERN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND, AND THIS BOARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, THIS IS STILL A HOUSE AND IT HAS TO SORT OF READ AS A HOUSE AND THE HEIGHT ALSO, UM, IS, IS A MAJOR PART OF THAT.
AND TO HAVE THAT SORT OF SENSITIVITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH, I THINK THAT WHAT MADE THE, THE NICER PARTS
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OF THE DESIGN INCLUDE THE STEPPING BACK.AND I REALIZE THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOSING SPACE IN OTHER AREAS.
AGAIN, I WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS DESIGN AND WHAT THIS PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF AIRINESS AND THE LIGHTNESS AND THE STEPPING BACK PART, I THINK IS ALSO A GOOD COMPROMISE.
UM, AND I PERSONALLY, I, I LIKED, AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATION, I DID THINK THAT THAT WAS A GOOD SOLUTION.
UM, ESPECIALLY TOO, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WITH THESE UNDERSTORY HOMES, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERSTORY IS FOR CARS TO BE USED, IT'S NOT MEANT AS A LIVING SPACE.
AND THERE ARE GONNA BE DELIVERIES AND THERE IS GONNA BE A LOT.
AND THAT, THAT IS A VERY SMALL LEAN.
AND I, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD DIRECTION TO GO IN.
ME PERSONALLY, I, I JUST, UM, DON'T THINK THAT A FIVE STORY STRUCTURE READS TO ME AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IT JUST DOESN'T, I DON'T, WE DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE BEACH.
A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS USUALLY TWO STORIES AND MAYBE WITH AN UNDERST STORY.
SO A FIVE STORY HOME IS NEVER GOING TO LOOK LIKE A HOME, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, SO, BUT THIS ZONING DOES ALLOW THAT.
AND SO YOU CAN'T NOT ALLOW, IT CANNOT RESTRICT THAT.
BUT THAT, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE, THIS IS WITHIN THE LINCHPIN OF ALL THE DISCUSSIONS.
AND IT, AND IT'S IN CONTEXT WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS SURROUNDING, YOU KNOW, THE VISTAS IS EVEN HIGHER.
THE PROPOSED STANDARD IS HIGHER.
AND THAT'S THE CONFLICT THAT WE ARE IN.
WE ARE IN AN RM ONE THAT HAS TURNED INTO NOT, YOU KNOW, FROM A MANSION TO A CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS.
UM, AND STILL SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE LEFT THAT ARE NOW BEING DEVELOPED TO BE ALLOWED TO BE THE HEIGHT OF A CONDOMINIUM.
BUT IF THEY WERE TO BUILD A HOUSE WITH AN UNDERSTORY, THAT WOULD BE TALLER THAN THE STANDARD BUILDING THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT.
BECAUSE A HOME WITH AN, I MEAN, WE'RE AT THE POINT WITH THE UNDERST STORIES WHERE THE HOUSES ARE 45 FEET AND THE STANDARD, WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS ABOUT 35, 30 SOMETHING.
SO YOU COULD BUILD A HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, A TALL, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TODAY ARE VERY TALL.
BUT I THINK, AND YOU COULD, IT WOULDN'T BE OUT OF, I DON'T THINK PROPORTION, DON'T THINK, COULD GO UP TO A HEIGHT.
ROGELIO, YOU CAN SPEAK AS TO THIS BETTER THAN ME.
DO YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH AN UNDERSTORY USING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED WITHOUT VARIANCES OR WAIVERS? DO YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT GO UP? UM, WHAT IS IT? UH, FOR, UH, 55 FEET OR 30 FEET? NOT IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS, BUT I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE, ON RARE OCCASIONS, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILT IN A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT THAT, THAT MIGHT BE LARGER.
BUT IN A SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, REGULAR ALLOWED, REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY HOME DOESN'T COME UP TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED HERE, WHICH IS 55.
CORRECT? NO, I GUESS WHAT I'M, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE HOMES THAT ARE TALLER THAN THE STANDARD, THE BUILDING, THE STANDARD ON THE NORTHERN STREET, INCLUDING, I BELIEVE, AND I'M, I DOUBLE CHECK THE ONE THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE HERE NEXT.
THE OLD STANDARD IS 33 FEET HIGH.
LIKE THAT THE EXISTING CABIN IS YEAH.
THE, THE HOME THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE NEXT IS 45 FEET FROM GRADE TO TO CEILING.
SO THAT WOULD BE, SO YOU COULD PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH AN UNDERSTORY ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND, AND THE HEIGHT WISE, IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD WORK WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE STREET, BECAUSE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE GOTTEN SO TALL.
DEPENDING ON THE BASE FLOOD OF ELEVATION IN THAT AREA, AND THEN THE FREEBOARD.
BUT IS IT GOING TO BE THEN DWARFED BY THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT? I DON'T, NO, BECAUSE THE STANDARD, ISN'T IT, THE STANDARD IS GONNA BE SHORTER THAN YEAH.
THE STANDARD IS 33 FEET RIGHT NOW.
35 AND 33 IS WHAT THEY MENTIONED.
BUT IF THEY WERE TO BUILD, I MEAN, WE'RE ABOUT TO HIRE A, A, A PROPOSAL FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S 45 FEET.
IT'S A SINGLE, IT'S A HOME WITH AN UNDERSTORY.
SO TO YOUR POINT, EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS ALLOWED TO BE THAT.
UH, AND THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE THAT IN A SINGLE FAMILY.
BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
WE HAVE A BIG, A BIGGER STRUCTURE, VISTAS, WHICH IS 55, I THINK I MENTIONED 55.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NEW STANDARD THAT'S GONNA BE 70 APPROXIMATELY.
AND THE CURRENT STANDARD, THAT'S, UH, UH, YEAH.
BUT 33, THE SECTION OF THE STANDARD'S GONNA BE THAT
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FAR, IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.IT'S STILL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S STILL PART OF THAT SAME SIDE OF, OF, UH, OF, UM, BELLEVUE, OF BELL ISLAND.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE BEEN HELPFUL AT ALL.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MORNING, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US AND ALL OF YOUR FEEDBACK.
UM, SO I THINK WHAT'S LEFT IS A MOTION, MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM, UH, AND FOR IT TO BE RENO, UM, AT A LATER DATE.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO DEFER.
WHO GETS THE SECOND AP? I HEARD, I HEARD THREE.
UM, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL A FIVE MINUTE RECESS BETWEEN PROJECTS REAL QUICKLY, PLEASE.
[3. DRB24-1042, 1520 STILLWATER DRIVE.]
BACK TO THE APRIL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING.WE ARE HEARING OUR NEXT AND LAST APPLICATION, D RRB 24, 1 0 4, 2 15 20 STILLWATER DRIVE, APPLICANT.
ARE YOU HERE FOR A SPECIAL MASTER? YEAH.
OH, THAT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THIS IS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
AND JUST SAY WE WERE UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE YOU, WE WILL VOUCH FOR YOU.
SO THE RRB 20 14 42, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMEONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED ONLINE.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE ARCHITECT.
UH, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
ARE YOU HERE FOR 1520 STILLWATER DRIVE? I AM.
YOU'RE THE ARCHITECT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I WANTED TO ASK, UH, AM I GONNA BE SHARING MY SCREEN IN THE DRAWINGS OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU BRING UP, BRING UP THERE? IF YOU EMAILED IT TO STAFF, WE TYPICALLY BRING IT UP HERE.
UH, ANTONIO, BEFORE YOU PROCEED, I DO NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN, IF YOU WILL, WILL BE SINCE YOU'LL BE PRESENTING VIRTUALLY.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR, UH, THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVEN TODAY IS TRUTH, UH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH,
ALRIGHT, BUT BEFORE THAT, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED, UH, REQUESTING THIS REVIEW, DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.
SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR AN UNDERSTORY HOME ON, UH, ON STILLWATER DRIVE THAT'S IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA OF THE CITY.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT.
IT IS AN 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A HEIGHT OF 31 FEET.
UM, THE RS FOUR, THE HEIGHT LIMITS FOR UNDERSTORY WERE RECENTLY REDUCED TO, UH, TO, UH, 28 FEET IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS AN APPLICABILITY CLAUSE THAT ALLOWED ANYONE THAT HAD A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH PLANNING PRIOR TO, UM, I BELIEVE THE DATE WAS OCTOBER, DECEMBER, MAYBE JANUARY.
UM, BUT THEY, THEY DID THAT, THEY MET WITH US, UM, UM, THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR.
UM, THEY WERE PRE THEY, THEY COULD FOREGO THOSE REGULATIONS AND GO UNDER THE LAW THAT WAS APPLYING PRIOR TO THAT.
THEY'RE APPLYING FOR 31, UH, FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT THAT WAS ALLOWED AT THE TIME THAT THEY, THAT THEY INITIALLY CAME TO THE CITY.
UM, THE HOME, UH, BEING PROPOSED IS OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS.
UM, THE FIRST WAIVER, UM, IS RELATED TO THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR A TWO STORY ELEVATIONS THAT EXCEED 60 FEET IN LENGTH.
UM, ON ONE SIDE OF THE FACADE, THEY ARE COMPLYING ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, THEY'RE COMPLYING ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THE WAIVER FOR THE WEST SIDE.
THE WEST SIDE IS 86 FEET, 10 INCHES LONG.
UM, THE CITY CODE INCLUDES THIS OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT TO BREAK UP LONG EXPANSES OF EL OF SIDE ELEVATIONS.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, AN UNDER UNDERLYING WALL PLANE AND A STEP BACK.
UM, HOWEVER, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, RECESSES BE INCORPORATED, PERHAPS SOME NOTCHES, SOMETHING ELSE TO BREAK UP THAT FACADE.
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WANNA BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT WE DO THINK IT NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THAT ELEVATION.UM, THE SECOND WAIVER PERTAINS TO THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT SPEC SETBACK THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT ELEVATION.
WHEN THE LOT COVERAGE IS 25% OR GREATER.
UM, IT REQUIRES THAT 35% OF THE, OF THE, OF THE SIDE OF THE SECOND FLOOR FACING A STREET BE SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET.
IN THIS CASE, THE ENTIRE WALL IS SET BACK FIVE FEET.
HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE, UM, UM, AN ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION, UM, THAT DOES ENCROACH INTO THAT FIVE FOOT SETBACK FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE FACADE.
GIVEN THAT THE PRIMARY AREA OF THE FACADE IS SETBACK, UM, WE FEEL THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE INTENT, WHICH IS TO, TO MINIMIZE THE, THE IMPOSING NATURE OF THE STRUCTURE.
SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THAT WAIVER.
UM, THE STYLE, UM, IS, UH, AGAIN, CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
IT HAS VARYING WALLS WITH, UH, MATERIAL ACCENT, UM, VARYING WALL PLANES WITH MATERIAL ACCENTS, UM, AND, AND SOME METAL FEATURES AND SOME WOOD FEATURES.
UM, AND SO STAFF IS, UH, HAS NO, NO CONCERNS WITH THE DESIGN.
UM, OVERALL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATION, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT, THAT, UH, EASTERN ELEVATION BE, BE, UH, THE RECESS IN THAT EASTERN ELEVATION BE INCREASED.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UH, APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
AND ROGELIO, JUST TO MAKE SURE, ONE OF THE ALSO REASONS THAT IT'S COMING BEFORE US IS BECAUSE IT HAS AN UNDERSTORY AND THIS APPLICANT WAS MEETING WITH THE CITY PRIOR TO THE CHANGE THAT UNDERSTORY HOMES DO NOT COME TO THIS BOARD ANYMORE.
IF, IF THEY REDUCE THE HEIGHT TO 28 FEET, THEY COULD, THEY COULD, UH, AND THEY, AND THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE THAT WAIVER, RIGHT? ON THE, ON THE TWO STORY ELEVATION, THEY COULD PROCEED ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAINTAIN, UM, RIGHT, THAT, THAT HEIGHT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED, AND THEY NEED THAT WAIVER FOR THE SECOND STORY ELEVATION, RIGHT? THEY NEED TO COME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, RIGHT? THAT'S THE WAIVERS.
UM, DO YOU WANNA BEGIN? UH, YES.
UM, UH, MY OFFICES ARE AT, UH, 48, UH, OH EIGHT SOUTHWEST 72ND AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
SO MY CLIENT, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FROM ICELAND AND THIS IS GONNA BE A, A VACATION HOME FOR THEM.
AND, UM, THEY REALLY WANTED SOMETHING VERY ORGANIC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MODERN, BUT, UH, SOMETHING ORGANIC.
SO I, WE DID INCORPORATE, UH, A, A STONE BASE INTO THE HOUSE AND, AND, UH, UH, REALLY CAME UP WITH SOME WOOD DETAILING THROUGHOUT.
UM, AND, UH, WE REALLY LIKED THE UNDERSTORY, UH, ALLOWANCE, UH, IN THAT IT REALLY FREED UP THE, UH, THE LOT AT THE, AT THE GROUND LEVEL, UH, WHERE WE HAD PLENTY OF, UH, UH, GREEN AREA AROUND IT.
THE GREEN AREA REQUIREMENT FOR THE UNDERSTORY IS A LITTLE BIT, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE, THAN THE NORM.
AND SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AROUND THE HOUSE.
AND, UH, AND, UH, IT, WHAT THE CLIENTS WANTED, THEY WANTED TO, TO FREE UP THE BOTTOM, UH, AT THE POOL LEVEL.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, THE LIVING AREAS ON THE MAIN LEVEL, ON THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR, UH, AND, UH, BEDROOMS ON THE THIRD LEVEL.
UH, WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING ON THE ROOF DECK.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, UH, A NICE COURTYARD ON THAT, ON THAT WEST SIDE.
IT IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE REQUIRED SIZE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL THAN, THAN TO, UH, UH, DO THE SAME, YOU KNOW, TO DO IT ON BOTH SIDES.
SO THE, THE SETBACK ON THE EAST SIDE IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, SMALLER.
IT'S, IT'S LONG, BUT IT DOESN'T, UH, COME IN AS MUCH THAT ALLOWED US TO REALLY DEVELOP THE FLOOR PLAN.
YOU KNOW, THE LOT IS VERY SMALL AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S ALL VERY TIGHT.
SO IN ORDER TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROOMS, UH, TO BE MORE FUNCTIONAL, WE NEEDED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THE WHIFF THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY MUCH COVERED.
UH, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, BRANDON HOWARD HERE, UH, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, RELATED TO LANDSCAPING.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
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US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS? YOU KNOW, WE USING THE SLIDES, OR ARE YOU DONE? UH, ABSOLUTELY.IF YOU COULD GO TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, SITE PLAN.
IF YOU COULD JUST, JUST STATE NEXT SLIDE WHEN YOU'D LIKE US TO ADVANCE.
UH, YEAH, THIS IS A CONTEXTUAL, UM, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THERE IS A, A NEW HOUSE, UH, UH, ON ONE SIDE AND AN EMPTY LOT ON THE OTHER.
UM, AND THERE'S THE, UH, AERIAL, UH, NEXT SLIDE.
UH, SO WE COULD USE THIS DRAWING HERE.
THIS IS THAT, THAT UNDERSTORY, YOU COULD SEE THE BOTTOM LEVEL IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE MAIN, IT'S JUST A VERY OPEN, WE WANTED TO GIVE THE FEEL OF A, OF A, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A TRADITIONAL HOME AS WELL WITH THE, UH, SO WE DID A GATE, A FRONT, UH, DOOR, UH, OR GATE GOING INTO AN OPEN, UH, FOYER, IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR MAIN STAIRCASE IS.
UH, AND IT DOES CONNECT TO THE CARPORT, UH, THAT'S ADJACENT.
AND THEN YOU'RE IN A, IN A LIVING AREA.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND, UH, ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND LEVEL WHERE IT HAS THE FURNITURE.
UH, NEXT SLIDE, OR, OR IS THIS IT? OKAY.
SO I THOUGHT WE HAD THE FURNITURE LAID OUT DOWN THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S A COVERED TERRACE.
UH, IN THE RENDERING, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF THE IDEA OF THE BOTTOM, BUT, UM, JUST A BIG OPEN SPACE, UH, A LITTLE CONVERSATION PIT A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE WATER.
AND, UH, AND THEN YOU SEE THE POOL AND, AND DECK AROUND IT.
SO YOU SEE THE MAIN STAIR THERE IN THE, TOWARDS THE RIGHT, COMING FROM THE FOYER, AND YOU GET TO A NICE OPEN LIVING AREA.
UH, AND THEN, UH, YOU WALK BY THE DINING INTO THE, THE FAMILY ROOM, KITCHEN AREA.
AND, UH, ALL OPEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WALK, UH, UP THE STAIR, YOU, IT'S AN, UH, ALL GLASS AND YOU'RE LOOKING ONTO THE COURTYARD AND A LIVING WALL BEYOND, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE RENDERINGS.
UM, AND, AND THEN YOU KINDA WALK AROUND THAT COURTYARD TO GET TO THE FAMILY ROOM, KITCHEN AREA.
UM, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE, AT THIS MAIN LEVEL A STAIRCASE GOING DIRECTLY DOWN TO THE POOL, UH, AREA.
UH, A A GOOD SIZED TERRACE AND, UH, AND TWO BEDROOMS ON THIS LEVEL TOWARDS THE FRONT.
AND THEN THE, UH, THEN WE HAVE THREE KIDS' BEDROOMS UPSTAIRS.
AND, UM, AND THE MASTER, UH, TAKES UP THE WHOLE BACK, BACK OF THE HOUSE.
LIKE I SAID, NOT A VERY WIDE AREA TO WORK WITH.
UH, BUT IT IS ENOUGH FOR A GOOD MASTER BEDROOM AND BATH.
UM, AND IF, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
I WANT TO GET TO THE RENDERINGS.
SO THERE'S THE FRONT THAT YOU SAW ON THE COVER PAGE, UM, AND YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS, LIKE WE SAID, THAT WE DID INCORPORATE, UH, WE WANTED TO GIVE IT AN ORGANIC LOOK.
WE DID INCORPORATE THE STONE, LIKE A DOMINICAN CORAL IN THE, THE BOTTOM.
AND, UH, AND THE, UH, THE WOOD DETAILING, UH, UH, ON TOP AND IN THE ROOF.
SO HERE YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE, UM, THE, THE STAIRCASE.
WE DID REMOVE, OBVIOUSLY, THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, JUST SO YOU CAN LOOK IN.
AND, UM, AND YOU SEE THE LIVING WALL, WHICH, WHICH ACTUALLY GOES UP FROM THE MAIN LEVEL UP TO THE, TO THE, UH, TOP LEVEL.
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NEXT SLIDE AND THE BACK.YOU SEE KIND OF THE ACTIVITIES DOWN THERE.
THE THINKING IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN, UH, DINING AND KIND OF LIVING AREA.
AND THEN JUST A SIMPLE POOL IN THE BACK.
UH, AND YOU SEE THE MASTER DECK UPSTAIRS.
SO, UH, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, THANK YOU.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? IT DOES.
UM, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? THE BRENDAN HOWARD HAS HIS HANDS RAISED, BUT HIS HAND RAISED, BUT I BELIEVE, UM, MR. RODRIGUEZ SAID THAT WAS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
IT'S IF HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, OR, OR IS THAT, UH, IS HE JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS? I THINK HE'S HERE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO CHIME IN AND OKAY.
BUT I THINK HE JUST WAS GONNA JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS IF, IF NECESSARY.
A LOT'S FAIRLY SMALL, SO THE LANDSCAPING'S MAINLY ON THE EDGES, BUT, UH, BUT YEAH.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR A COMMENT.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? HAKEEM, I GUESS THAT ONE QUESTION.
THE GREEN WALL THAT HE SHOWED, I BELIEVE IT SHOWED, IT SAYS ARTIFICIAL, OR IS IT ACTUAL LIVE GREEN WALL? IT, IT IS ARTIFICIAL.
AND IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU CAN'T DO THE ACTUAL LIVING WALL, OR, WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK THAT IT, UH, A LOT OF THEM DON'T DO VERY WELL, UH, OVER TIME.
UM, AND THE ARTIFICIAL ONES ARE GETTING BETTER AND, AND BETTER.
AND THEY DO, SOME OF THEM DO INCORPORATE SOME, UH, KIND OF EASY TO MAINTAIN ELEMENTS WITHIN THE ARTIFICIAL LIVING WALL, BUT IN THE, AND MAINLY IT'S JUST, UH, ARTIFICIAL.
I'M TOGGLING BETWEEN SLIDES 21 AND 22, WHICH ARE A COUPLE OF THE RENDERINGS.
A QUESTION ABOUT, I GUESS THE ROOF PITCH ON THE, THE FRONT FACADE AND HOW MUCH THAT EXTENDS, UM, BEYOND THE STRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY, LIKE THE BROWN, UM, THE WOODEN, YOU KNOW, BOX THAT GOES AROUND THE FRONT FACADE, UH, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT EXTENDS BEYOND IN SLIDE 21, BUT THEN IN SLIDE 22, IT'S SET BACK.
AND THAT COULD JUST BE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, REFERENCE POINT.
'CAUSE I WOULD SAY I, I REALLY LOVE THE BACK FACADE, THE, THE FACADE THAT FACES THE WATER, WHERE YOU REALLY DON'T SEE THE, THE ROOF EXTENDING OVER MM-HMM
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT COULD BE MIRRORED IN THE FRONT, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE FRONT, UM, DOES HAVE A, UH, A SEPARATE, UH, LOWER ROOF FOR THAT BALCONY.
AND, AND THEN THE, UH, THE, ALTHOUGH IN, IN, IN THAT, FROM THAT ANGLE, IT APPEARS LIKE THE OVERHANG IS PROJECTING OVER IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE AT AN ANGLE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LIVING WALL, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE, THE DETAIL OVER THE BALCONY, THE ROOF DETAIL OVER THE BALCONY, UH, DOES COME OUT A LITTLE FURTHER THAN THE MAIN OVERHANG, UH, BEHIND IT.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE, THE BACK IS ACTUALLY THE SAME.
IT'S JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT ANGLE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT IT, THE BACK IS THE SAME.
IT'S JUST A BIGGER, A BIGGER COVERED TERRACE IN THE BACK SINCE IT IS OVERLOOKING THE WATER.
SO YOU'RE NOT, SO WE WANTED TO SOFTEN UP THE, WE WANTED TO SOFTEN UP THE FRONT WITH THE SAME KIND OF DETAILING, UH, AND, AND KIND OF BREAKING UP THE MASSING WITH THE, WITH THE WOOD BOX BELOW, AND THEN, AND THEN THIS, UH, LAYERING EFFECT ABOVE.
I MEAN, I, I LIKE THAT IT'S SET BACK MORE.
IT JUST, I GUESS THE VIEWPOINT FROM SLIDE 21 WAS DECEIVING.
OTHER, YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY MY ONLY QUESTION, SO THANK YOU.
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GABRIEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OR DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, I, I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, SOME THOUGHTS.UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I, ONE OF THE THINGS I, I, I APPRECIATE, I REALLY LIKE THE, UM, AND THIS RELATES TO THE WAIVER, THE, UM, THE FLOOR PLAN.
UM, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WITH THESE NICHES, I, I'VE SEEN THE INTERIORS OF SOME OF THESE HOMES, AND IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF AN AWKWARD SPACE.
BUT I, I REALLY LIKE THE ONE, UM, THE DEEPER ONE THAT YOU HAVE, AND I CAN'T TELL WHICH IT'S THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, OR MAYBE IT'S THE EAST, THE EAST ELEVATION, THE, AND HOW YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO, BECAUSE OF THAT DEEP NICHE, YOU'VE USED IT AS A WAY TO SEPARATE OUT THE STAIRWELL AND THE ELEVATOR.
AND, UM, OVERALL INTERNALLY, BOTH FLOORS, TO ME, THEY SEEM VERY COMFORTABLE.
AND, AND JUST LIKE A NICE, THIS SEEMS LIKE THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME IS JUST GONNA BE REALLY EASY TO LIVE IN.
UM, SO I WANTED TO, TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THAT.
AND I THINK BECAUSE I'M, I'M GATHERING THAT WITH THE WAIVER ON THE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE NICHE IS DEEPER THAN REQUIRED.
AND SO THEN ON THE WEST SIDE, IT WASN'T AS DEEP.
WAS THAT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING? UM, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I'M A BIT OF A STICKLER FOR, AGAIN, THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS, BUT I, I THINK THAT BECAUSE HOW YOU'VE DESIGNED IT INTERNALLY, IT WORKS SO WELL.
UH, IT, IT DOESN'T, UM, I, I WISH THOUGH WE DID HAVE A RENDERING OF THE WEST ELEVATION IS, DID I MISS THAT? IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE PRESENTATION? IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A RENDERING, BUT IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE, UH, ISOMETRICS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE FULL MODEL.
WHAT, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE LAST SHEETS.
UM,
I, I SEE WHAT, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T, AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, I, I DON'T MM-HMM
OH, UP A LITTLE, UH, I THINK IT WAS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
THESE ARE THE LANDSCAPE SHEETS.
IT, IT SHOWS NO BREAK ON THE TWO LIVABLE FLOORS, SECOND AND THIRD, AND THEN THERE'S AN OPEN AREA, UM, OR SORT THAT MAKES YOU THINK IT'S A BREAK.
AND IT IS THE, THE UNDERSTORY.
AND SO IN STAFF, YEAH, YOU COULD SEE IT STAFF WAS ENCOURAGING THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DEPTH, A CHANGE IN DEPTH MM-HMM
I MEAN, I, I, YEAH, I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU BOTH TO KEEP THE DEEPER RECESS ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, BUT ALSO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE, NOW THAT I SEE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIATION ON THE EAST, UM, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PLAY WITH.
WHAT IS THE, HOW DEEP DOES THE RECESS HAVE TO BE TO AVOID A WAIVER? THE RECESS HAS TO BE EIGHT FEET DEEP INTO THE BUILDING.
OH, SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THE WAIVER SHOULDN'T BE GRANTED, BUT WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SOMETHING.
CAN YOU SHOW THE, UM, UM, ON THE SCREEN, THE, UH, LAYOUT, UM, OF THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR, THE INTERIOR LAYER? YEAH.
WE COULD, UH, GO UP OR BACK IN THE, UH, KEEP, KEEP GOING.
SO YEAH, ON THE, ON THE, UH, MAIN LEVEL, IT'S ACTUALLY A, A LITTLE BIT OF AN ATRIUM.
THE STRUGGLE WE HAD WITH THE, THE RECESS WAS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO CIRCULATE AROUND THE, THE MAIN COURTYARD, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT WALL MOVES ANYMORE, IT KIND KILLS THE ABILITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, BITE-SIZED FURNITURE AND SO FORTH IN THE LIVING AND
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DINING.UM, SO, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY SHIFT THE OTHER COURTYARD AND MAKE IT SMALLER IN ORDER TO GROW THAT SIDE.
AND THE OTHER THING HERE, AND THE OTHER FACTOR IS THAT THAT SIDE WHERE THE BALCONY IS, IT'S WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
SO RIGHT UNDER THAT, UH, RECESS, REALLY WHAT WE HAVE, IF WE GROW THE COURTYARD, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF GLORIFYING THE GENERATOR AND AC EQUIPMENT AND, AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE IT IN THE GROUND LEVEL PLAN.
SO WE THOUGHT IT MADE MORE SENSE TO REALLY MAKE THE, THE OTHER COURTYARD, THE, THE, THE, THE BIG IDEA OF THE, OF THE PART T AND, AND LEAVE THIS, THIS ONE AS MORE OF A BALCONY, UH, ON THE BEDROOM LEVEL.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL TO THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE.
SO THERE'S THE EQUIPMENT ALONG THE SIDE, AND WE HAD LIMITED SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE IT.
SO, UM, AND IF YOU GO, UH, TO THE, TO THE NEXT FLOOR, AGAIN, THE GROUND FLOOR, NEXT SLIDE.
SO HERE WE DO HAVE A BALCONY AT THE LOWER LEVEL.
IT'S MORE OF A, OF AN OPEN SPACE, UM, THAT, UH, UH, TO THE, TO THE, UH, BASEMENT LEVEL.
AND ON THAT LOWER LEVEL, RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BALCONY, DO YOU HAVE GLASS OR I, I ASSUME IT'S ALL GLASS.
AND ONE OF THE FEARS WAS IF WE DO STEP IT BACK MORE, THAT THEN YOU'RE GONNA PICK UP THE VIEW INTO THE GENERATOR, WHICH HAS TO BE AT FLOOD LEVEL.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY HIGH UP.
UM, THIS WAY YOU'RE, YOU KINDA MISS THE EQUIPMENT AS YOU LOOK OUT FROM THE HOUSE.
SO IT, IT, IT SEEMS THAT WHILE THERE ISN'T A CUT IN THE SIDE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SIDE IS NORTH, SOUTH, UH, UH, ON THE SIDE OF THE, UM, THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, IT DOES BREAK UP THE MASS, THE CEMENT ON THAT, THE STUCCO ON THAT SIDE WITH THE BALCONY ON THE TOP FLOOR THAT WE SEE HERE ON THIS LEVEL, THE SECOND LEVEL.
AND THEN ON THE FIRST LEVEL, IT BREAKS IT UP WITH THE GLASS, UH, WHICH IS PROBABLY CEILING TO FLOOR, I WOULD THINK.
UM, AND IT DOEST DENT A LITTLE BIT IN NOT ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO THE CODE, BUT IT DOES, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT LINE.
UM, SO IN, IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT, IT, IT, UM, IT MEETS THE INTENT, MAYBE NOT TO THE LETTER, BUT IT MEETS THE INTENT.
UM, AND YET IT PROVIDES THE ADEQUATE LIVING AREA BASED ON THE, UM, VERY SLIM SQUI, UM, WIDTH OF THE STRUCTURE.
THERE IS SOME, I JUST, WE JUST WERE, WE WERE LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE PLANS.
AND IT, IT DOESN'T SHOW IN SOME OF THE RENDERING, SOME OF THE SITE PLANS ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE THEY DO HAVE THE OPEN COURTYARD.
THERE IS AN EYEBROW THAT WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE EYEBROW CROSSED IN FRONT OF THE, OF THE OPEN COURTYARD.
SO A WAIVER DOES NEED TO BE GRANTED FOR THAT SIDE IF THAT EYEBROW IS GOING TO BE KEPT.
THERE WAS ANOTHER, ANOTHER PLAN THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT IT WAS HARD TO TELL.
UM, AND IT IS IN THE RE IT IS IN ONE OF THEIR RENDERINGS.
CAN YOU, PAGE 22 OR, YEAH, IF YOU GO TO THE RENDERINGS, YOU'LL SEE, UM, OH YEAH, THE, THE REASON FOR THAT, UM, YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN THAT ONE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SORT OF CONCRETE CLAD, CORRECT.
THE FRAME, THE FRAME IS, IS AT THE FRONT OF THAT OPEN COURTYARD.
I, I, I'M SORRY, WE MISSED IT IN OUR, IN OUR STAFF REPORT.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE, SO IT'S NOT ON THE WEST SIDE HERE.
IF YOU CAN GO UP ONE ON THE RENDERINGS, YOU'LL SEE IT, UH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE SIDE THERE.
AND AGAIN, THE IDEA THERE WAS JUST TO BE TRUE TO THE, THE CONCEPT OF THIS PLANE KIND OF INTERCEPTING THE HOUSE.
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AN EYEBROW JUST TO CONNECT THE FRONT TO THE BACK AND TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.SO I THINK, UH, I THINK, UH, IT MEETS THE INTENT IN THAT YOU'LL ST YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT OPEN FEEL.
WE DID BREAK THE ROOF UP ABOVE, BUT IDEALLY WE, IT WOULD, I THINK AESTHETICALLY IT, IT'D BE GREAT TO KEEP THAT EYEBROW CUTTING ACROSS THERE.
ARE YOU ALL RECOMMENDING THAT A STAFF? I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OP ANY, UH, OBJECTIONS TO THAT BECAUSE IT DOES BREAK UP THE, THE, THE VERTICALITY OF THE STRUCTURE.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD ELEMENT.
I, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS THOUGH, OVERALL ABOUT THE DESIGN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IS YOU SAID THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED THIS, THAT YOUR INTENT, UM, THAT THE CLIENT WANTED A VERY SORT OF ORGANIC FEEL, UM, AND IT SEEMED LIKE YOU'VE RESPONDED TO THAT THROUGH YOUR CHOICE OF MATERIALS.
UM, BUT WHEN I THINK OF ORGANIC, I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, FLOWY LINES, SOFT CURVES, UM, YOU KNOW, NATURAL FORMS. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RIGHT ANGLES IN NATURE, WRONG.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS HOUSE, IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY ANGULAR.
AND THEN THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT YOU'VE ADDED REINFORCE THOSE HARD RIGHT ANGLES, THE BOXINESS, ET CETERA.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AS I, BEFORE YOU EVEN SAID THAT, WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS PROJECT THE OTHER DAY, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO THINK, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS HOUSE SAYING? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING HERE? WHAT'S THE STORY? UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, I, I THINK THE MAIN INTENT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, INTENSE, YOU KNOW, WAS DRB NOW ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW OF THESE UNDERST STORIES, IS THAT WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A COMMUNITY OF HOMES ON STILTS.
THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, SORT OF INCORPORATION OF ELEVATED DESIGN.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE IMPRESSIONS THAT I GET FROM THIS DESIGN IS IT REALLY FEELS LIKE A HOUSE ON STILTS AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE USE OF THE CORAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
UM, AND I, I REALLY LIKE THE MAHOGANY DOOR.
UM, BUT, SO THAT WOULD BE MY MAIN, MY MAIN, UM, COMMENT ABOUT THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE IT TO SEE IN A, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BETTER MEET THE INTENTION, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SOFTENING ELEMENTS.
UM, I ALSO WAS CONFUSED BY THE, I GUESS LIKE THE PROJECTION OR THE FLOATING ROOF STRUCTURE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS.
UM, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, I, I, I LIKE THIS SORT OF EXPOSED CONCRETE FRAME BECAUSE AS YOU WERE SAYING, IT DOES TIE THINGS TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE OTHER PARTS.
UM, IT, ESPECIALLY THE ALUMINUM WOULD PICKETS, UM, I WOULD SAY THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF HOMES THAT WE SEE HAVE THESE ALUMINUM, THE SCREENING, UM, AND IT, IT, IT FEELS MORE APPLIED RATHER THAN INTENTIONAL.
UM, SO I, I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SOFTEN THE STRUCTURE.
UM, I THINK THAT WILL ALSO HAVE WITH, UM, THE WAIVER ON THE EAST SIDE THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A, A, A NICHE, A RECESS, BUT IF THERE WERE ELEMENTS THAT, THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT SOFTER, UM, I ALSO, AGAIN, I, I AGREE WITH, UM, WITH LAURA ABOUT THIS, IT, THE, THE, THE PROJECTION, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THIS DOUBLE ROOF, WHICH IS JUST SORT OF CONFUSING.
LIKE I, I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY IT'S THERE OR WHAT IT'S CONNECTED TO, OR IF IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY CHOOSE ONE.
YOU KNOW, EITHER CHOOSE THE, THE SORT OF LOURED FRAME OR CHOOSE THIS ROOF PROJECTION.
BUT HAVING BOTH, I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
UM, AND I ALSO, TO THE POINT TOO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE CONSTRUCTIVE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE WAYS IN THE REAR THAT MIGHT BE A FUN WAY TO INCORPORATE A BIT OF PERSONALITY AND SOFTEN THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE INSTEAD OF HAVING ANOTHER STRAIGHT DOWN STAIRCASE IN THE BACK DIRECTLY MIRRORING THE ONE THAT'S IN THE FRONT, MAYBE CONSIDER HAVING, UM, A CURVED STAIRCASE AGAIN TO OFFSET THE SORT OF BOXINESS AND THE ANGLES OF THE REAR AND THE FRAMING IN THOSE ELEMENTS.
ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION WAS, LIKE I SAID, THE OWNERS ARE FROM ICELAND AND NORDIC ARCHITECTURE TYPICALLY IS, IS VERY FUNCTIONAL AND STRAIGHT LINES.
AND WELL, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION
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AND THE EXAMPLES THAT THEY SHOWED ME.UH, AND IT MADE SENSE FOR THIS PROPERTY, SINCE IT IS VERY, VERY NARROW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START, YOU KNOW, CREATING ANGLES OR CURVES AND IT, IT MAKES THE, THE SPACES A LITTLE LESS FUNCTIONAL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE.
THAT'S PART OF THE THINKING BEHIND THIS.
AND I THINK THE ORGANIC SIDE OF IT, UH, WAS SOMETHING I WAS PUSHING WITH THEM, UH, TO REALLY SOFTEN UP, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STRUCTURE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT RULES, AS I EXPLAINED IS, IS AN ATTEMPT TO BREAK UP THE MASSING AND THE HEIGHT.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK IT, IT, IT ACHIEVES THAT.
BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE THE, THAT WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT.
I, I, I, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THE, THE DESIGN NEEDS TO BE REFINED.
UM, ESPECIALLY THAT FRONT SECTION WITH THE DOUBLE ROOFS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I ALMOST WANNA FEEL LIKE CHOOSE ONE, EITHER HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN OVERHANG, UM, THAT PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, COVERAGE FOR THAT FRONT BALCONY OR DO THIS FRAME AND THEN DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ROOF.
UM, BUT I, I, I THINK HA, HAVING BOTH, IT JUST SORT OF MUDDIES THE, THIS, I, IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING THAT'S A SORT OF, SORT OF ELEGANT, BUT WITH A SIMPLICITY TO IT.
AND THIS IS JUST AN EXTRA I GOT IT.
LET ME ALSO ASK YOU A QUESTION TOO.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING FROM THE RENDERING.
WHEN YOU GO IN THE FRONT DOOR, UM, IS THAT THEN AN ENCLOSED FOYER OR IT READS ON THE RENDERING, LIKE IT'S IT'S OPEN AS WELL? YEAH, NO, IT'S, IT'S MORE LIKE A GATED ENTRY.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, TO GET AWAY FROM THE, THE, THE, THE FEEL OF THE HOUSE BEING ON STILTS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY TO TIE IT IN, UH, TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE TYPICAL HOUSES, UH, THAT DON'T HAVE THE UNDERSTORY, UH, IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, THE ILLUSION OF THE FRONT DOOR.
IT'S REALLY MORE OF A GATE THAT GOES INTO AN OPEN, UH, FOYER STAIR AREA.
NO, 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN, UM, THAT BE AN ENCLOSED FOYER, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM WITH THE, UM, THE FAKE GREENERY ON THE, THE GREEN WALL.
I, I WOULD IF IT WAS ON THE FRONT FACADE, BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE ON THE INTERIOR, IT'S REALLY JUST GONNA AFFECT THE, THE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND I COULD SEE IF THEY'RE TRAVELING A LOT, NOT AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SOMETHING VERY LOW MAINTENANCE.
SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE DESIGN.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE DESIGN ELEMENTS CHANGES THAT I WAS RECOMMENDING? YEAH, I HONESTLY, UH, I REALLY LIKE THE, THE EXTRA LAYER, BECAUSE TO ME, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? THERE'S THESE BALCONIES AND THEN YOU HAVE, AND SO I WANTED TO BRING THE SCALE DOWN OF THE BALCONY A LITTLE BIT AND HELP, YOU KNOW, STEP BACK.
THE, THE HOUSE THE, WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO GET PROPER CEILING HEIGHTS, SO THEN THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE, THE OTHER ROOF BEHIND IT.
UH, I THINK, UH, AGAIN, THAT I LIKE THAT WE'RE STEPPING IT BACK AND WE'RE CREATING A COOL ELEMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY OPENED, UH, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES YOU SOME PRIVACY IN THE BALCONY, BUT IT HAS A PICKET SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THROUGH IT.
AND IT, I THINK IT TIES IN NICELY WITH THE, WITH THE, THE WOOD VENEER, THE, THE SLATS MM-HMM
THAT WE HAVE IN THE FRONT AND, AND IN THE BACK.
SO THAT WAS THE TOP BEHIND IT.
AND IN THE BACK, UH, BALCONY OR, OR COVERED TERRACE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, I THINK IT WORKS WELL ALSO.
IT'S JUST A WHOLE OTHER LOWER ROOF ELEMENT.
SO I, I REALLY LIKE IT, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT.
I LIKE THE, UM, GREENERY THAT YOU'VE PLACED ON THE FRONT, UM, OVER, OVER THE B IN FRONT OF THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY, THE FIRST LIVABLE FLOOR BALCONY.
I DON'T, IS THAT, I DON'T THINK, IS THAT A REFLECTION OR IS THAT GREENERY? I THINK, I THINK IT'S A REFLECTION, BUT I THINK SOME PLANTER BOXES THERE WOULD, WOULD WORK REALLY WELL.
A LITTLE TO SORT OF SOFTEN IT.
UM, AND YEAH, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE
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SOLUTION.UM, AND WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY ABOUT THE, THE ROOF STRUCTURE, I AGREE THAT HAVING, UM, ON THE SECOND HABIT, HABITABLE FLOOR, UM, TO HAVE THE SORT OF THE, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE SCREENING AROUND IT, UM, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
IT, IT DOES CREATE THAT SENSE OF PRIVACY AND MAYBE THE ADDITIONAL ROOF STRUCTURE ON TOP IS WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ON THE BACK WE CAN'T SEE THAT AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL, BUT TOP THAT'S WHAT, UM, WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT ROOFTOP ON THE TOP FLOOR, IT DOESN'T PROJECT AS MUCH AS IT APPEARS TO PROJECT ON THIS, ON THIS FRONT ELEVATION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE ELEVATION, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROJECTION IS FAR LESS THAT ONE.
SO IF YOU TAKE IT BACK, IT REALLY WOULD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD, UM, MAKE SENSE.
I, I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S, YOU'RE CREATING A, A SORT OF A SIMPLE REDUCED STRUCTURE AND IT'S ADDING, IT'S JUST EXTRA, IT'S LIKE ADDING, IT'S LIKE WEARING TOO MANY NECKLACES OR IT'S TOO MANY ACCESSORIES.
I THINK BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH AND THE, AND THE SIZE OF, IF WE WOULD REMOVE THE UPPER OVERHANG, UH, IT REALLY WOULD, WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE, A LITTLE TOO PLAIN AND, AND BOXY UP THERE.
'CAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE THE, THE STUCCO BEHIND IT.
THIS WAS A WAY TO KIND OF GIVE IT A MORE RESIDENTIAL FEEL.
I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A BIT OF A GAP BETWEEN THE INTENTION AND THE EXECUTION AND THE IT, AND I THINK THE, THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY DESIGN ELEMENTS BEING ADDED.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO REFINE THE FACADE SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE, UM, TO ADD PLANTERS, TO SOFTEN THE FRONT FACADE.
UM, WHETHER IT'S ON THE FIRST STORY OR THE SECOND STORY, I DON'T WANNA BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE AND SAY, YOU NEED TO GET RID OF IT, OR YOU NEED TO ADD SOMETHING IN A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
UM, I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ISN'T REALLY THE, THE INTENTION THAT YOU HAVE AND THE REALIZATION ISN'T QUITE MESHING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND WORKING WITH STAFF TO REFINE THAT.
UM, AND OR I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF MY APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, AND, AND ALSO TOO, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO NOT HAVE THE FRONT FACADE EFFECT, THE HERE'S A HOUSE ON STILTS.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT ALSO SEEMS TO ME SOMETHING, AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF.
I'M ALSO WONDERING TOO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DO, I DO LIKE THE CONCRETE FRAME, AND AGAIN, I LIKE HOW YOU'VE EXTENDED IT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING THERE, IT CREATES A SENSE OF COHESION.
MAYBE THE SOLUTION IS THAT THOSE WALLS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THAT WITHIN THE CONCRETE FRAME, MAYBE THOSE ARE JUST SIMPLE STUCCO AND NOT THE WOOD PANELING.
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD, WOULD SORT OF SIMPLIFY IT.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO AND DISCUSSED, UM, SO THAT WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION COHESIVELY.
UM, AND, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE WAIVER, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YEAH, ON, ON THAT SIDE, IF, IF THERE COULD BE SOMETHING, MAYBE EVEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, RECESSING THE, THE WINDOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I, IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM TO ME.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I LIKE THE INTERNAL FLOOR PLAN SO MUCH.
I'D HATE TO MESS WITH THAT TOO MUCH BECAUSE AGAIN, IT SEEMS REALLY COMFORTABLE AND THAT'S WHAT A HOUSE SHOULD BE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.
AND, UH, NO PROBLEM WITH THE UNDERSTORY OBVIOUSLY, AND NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAIVER OF THE SECOND STORY.
UM, FRONT ELEVATION, UM, WHICH MAY CHANGE WHEN YOU COME BACK ANYWAYS.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, UM, MY CONCERN, OR REALLY IS IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION IS, UM, THE LIMESTONE, UM, IT'S DOMINICAN LIMESTONE, UH, VERSUS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE USE HERE NORMALLY, OR JUST THAT'S JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, REALLY.
YOU'RE ASKING IS THAT A COMMON MATERIAL? YES.
IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT NATIVE TO,
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TO THE ENVIRONMENT HERE? IS IT, COULD IT BE USED LYTIC LIMESTONE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, DOMINICAN CORAL, YOU KNOW? YEAH.NO, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORAL HAS BEEN USED HERE IN MIAMI BEACH SINCE THE 1930S, RUSSELL PAN COAST AND, AND OTHERS, UH, WHETHER DOMINICAN BACK THEN OR OTHER LOCATIONS, I THINK THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, IT IS A SOFT MATERIAL SOFTER THAN OTHER STONES, BUT IT IS A VERY PRETTY STONE.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CORAL AND LIGHT? UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE TWO BETWEEN THE TWO? UH, TO ME THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR MATERIALS.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I'M SURE THERE IS A TECHNICAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
I'D HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.
UM, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING QUICKLY.
YEAH, THE, THE UL LIGHT'S GENERALLY A LOT ROUGHER.
UH, AND HAS A LOT MORE OF THE HOLES, AND SO YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TO GROUT IT FOR THIS KIND OF USE.
UM, AND THE DOMINICAN CORAL'S VERY POPULAR BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE UL LIGHT LOOK IN TERMS OF, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE RUSTIC THAN LIMESTONE, BUT, BUT IT'S STILL VERY WORKABLE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SMOOTH.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.
SO U LIGHT'S VERY, VERY ROUGH.
WE TYPICALLY USE THAT FOR THE BEARING, UH, WALLS ALONG THE BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
AND GABRIEL, I MEAN, DO YOU LIKE THAT MATERIAL? WOULD YOU MAYBE HAVE HIM EXPLORE TO USE IT MORE OR LESS OR JUST, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A CLARIFICATION AS TO WHY.
BUT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, I'M GOOD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR THE WAIVER, UM, TO APPROVE, DENY THE WAIVER, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UM, I, I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION, BUT I CAN MAYBE S SUGGEST DO YOU WANT THEM TO COME BACK WITH A REVISED, UM, BASED ON YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON DESIGN OF THE FRONT OF THE HOME, DO YOU WANT THEM TO COME BACK OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST WORK? OR DOES THE BOARD JUST WANT THEM TO WORK WITH ROGELIO ON THAT? OR PLANNING? UM, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO RETURN AND WE CAN APPROVE THE TWO WAIVERS, UH, BEFORE US.
HOW WOULD WE KNOW AND THE UNDERSTORY, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IF IT DOESN'T COME BACK? SO ACTUALLY THIS IS A GOOD FOR THE NEWER.
CAN YOU MAYBE TALK ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS WITH, SO DON'T COME BACK? SO GENERALLY WHEN THE, WHEN THE CHANGES ARE VERY DRASTIC, WE, WE USUALLY SUGGEST THAT IT BE CONTINUED, THE APPLICANT REVISE COME BACK, UM, WHEN THE CHANGES ARE, ARE MINOR IN NATURE.
UM, TYPICALLY WHAT THE BOARD DOES IS INCLUDES CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER, UH, TO REVISE X, Y, AND Z.
UH, PROVIDES SOME DIRECTION AS TO HOW THAT SHOULD BE REVISED.
AND THEN PUTS, UH, SHALL WORK WITH STAFF SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVE OR PUT, UH, CONDITIONS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STAFF.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO APPROVE IT TODAY FROM MY, FROM MY NOTES, UM, IT WOULD BE REFINE THE FACADE TO SIMPLIFY ELEMENTS, ADD PLANTERS TO SOFTEN THE FACADE, UM, FROM MAKING IT LOOK ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AMAN STALE TO ME, THAT WOULD BE INCREASE THE HORIZONTALITY OF THE, OF THE UNDERSTORY LEVEL.
UM, SO INCLUDE, SO THE, SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT THOSE THREE CONDITIONS IN THE, IN THE ORDER, AND THEN WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO REFINE THE DESIGN, UM, SUBJECT TO YOUR, YOUR DIRECTION.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE, THE CHANGES ARE SUCH THAT STAFF WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IMPLEMENTING THEM.
OTHER TIMES THE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS IN THE LAST APPLICATION, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE IT WITH THOSE DRASTIC CHANGES, THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD BE LESS COMFORTABLE DEALING WITH.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH, UM, TO LET YOU HANDLE IT, BUT, UM, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION BEFORE US, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT OF THE THREE, UM, ITEMS, UM, STATED BY ROGELIO.
AND IF I COULD HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ALSO ADD, UM, THE CONCERN WITH THE OVER THE ROOF OVERHANG.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S SORT OF THE SIMPLIFYING, BUT TO REALLY EXAMINE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ROOF OVERHANG AND THE, THE, THE WOODEN OR THE, THE ALUMINUM SCREENING.
I, I THINK THE ABOVE THE BALCONY, THE WHOLE BOTHERED ME MOTION IS BASICALLY TO LOOK AT THE FRONTAGE OF THE HOME AND TO SOFTEN THE LOOK OF IT, UH, BY POSSIBLY THE ROOF, POSSIBLY THE
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PLANTERS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY YOURSELF AND LIO, AND MAYBE ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MATERIALS ARE SUSTAIN MATERIALS BEING USED ARE SUSTAINABLE.SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE MODIFICATION STATED, AND THEN THAT INCLUDES THE, THE, THE WAIVERS.
AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE, UM, WAIVER OF THE FIVE FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR THE FRONT FACADE AND THEN THE TWO SIDE ELEVATIONS.
UM, WELL, I THINK WITH THAT WAIVER WITH THE, THE, THE EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT CHANGE IF THE ROOF LINE CHANGES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT WAS FOR THE PROJECT.
THAT WAIVER WAS FOR THE PROJECTION.
IF, IF THE PROJECTION DOESN'T COME OUT AS FAR, THAT WAIVER MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.
BUT I HAVE A FEELING, UM, THEY, THEY MIGHT REDUCE IT, BUT THAT OVERHANG IN IT, THAT OVERHANG WOULD HAVE IF THEY KEPT THE OVERHANG BUT REMOVED THE, THE PROJECTION BELOW IT, THEY WOULD NEED THE WAIVER.
IF THEY KEPT, IF THEY REMOVED THE OVERHANG BUT KEPT THE PROJECTION BELOW IT, THEY WOULD STILL NEED THE WAIVER.
OH WAIT, WHICH IS THE PROJECTION? IS IT THE, THE, THE SORT OF THE FRAME I WOULD SAY AROUND THE BALCONY.
SO, SO THAT'S, UH, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT WAS WHAT, UM, ANTONIO SAID HE LIKED THAT BECAUSE IT PROVIDED SOME PRIVACY MM-HMM
BUT IF YOU RECESS THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT, YOU COULD HAVE THAT MM-HMM
IT WOULD, IF, IF THE FACADE WAS SET BACK, SET A, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT YOU COULD HAVE THAT ELEMENT FOR THE PRIVACY RIGHT.
THE CODE YOU BE, THEN YOU'D BE CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT INSIDE AND THE LAYOUT IF YOU RECESS THE TOP FLOOR BACK, IF THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND SO THAT, SO IF WE DID NOT APPROVE THE WAIVER, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THAT, THE FRAME, THAT PROJECT, THE FRAME MM-HMM
OR THEY COULD DO IT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE EVERYTHING BACK.
IF, IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BACK, CORRECT.
CAN WE APPROVE THE, I I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT WAIVER.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT, HOW, HOW MUCH OF A VOTE DO YOU NEED ON THE WAIVER? FOUR.
SO IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.
I, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT SET IT BACK FURTHER.
UM, I THINK WITH THE DIRECTION THAT'S BEEN GIVEN, I THINK THAT THEY CAN IMPROVE THE TOTAL FRONT FRONTAGE OF LOOK OF THE PROPERTY OF THE HOME.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, UM, WITH THE MODIFICATIONS STATED AND THE WAIVERS.
UM, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NAY? OKAY.
I, I WOULD ALSO SAY TOO, I STAND BY MY COMMENT ABOUT HAVING A CIRCULAR STAIRWAY IN THE BACK.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ORDER, BUT JUST TO ENCOURAGE OR AT LEAST TO PROPOSE IT, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE DESIGN.
I, I THINK THOSE CIRCULAR STAIRWAYS HAVING GONE UP AND DOWN ONE AT MY NEIGHBORS, THEY LOOK LOVELY AND THEY ARE NOT PRACTICAL.
IT'S A GOOD WAY TO KILL YOURSELF.
THEY ARE JUST SO NARROW AND, AND NOT THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS CANE TODAY AND A BAD FOOT.
BUT THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE, UNLESS THEY'RE MADE WIDER WITH AMPLE SPACE, WHICH THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE, THEY'RE JUST NOT CONDUCIVE.
IF, IF IT IS A STAIRCASE THAT WILL BE USED BY THE FAMILY GOING UP AND DOWN.
IF IT'S SOMETHING JUST FOR EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IT MAY BE FINE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE, BUT THAT WAS WHY I, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE IN THE ORDER OR SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.
ANY OTHER, ARE ARE WE DONE? UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LAST, THAT'S IT.
UM, AND, AND, UH, REACH OUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO WORK WITH US ON, ON, UH, ON YOUR REVISIONS BEFORE YOU SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, SO WE CAN DIS DISCUSS THE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: May 15, 2025]
FOR MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS.UH, AND THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE MAY 15TH, I BELIEVE.
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MAY 15TH.UM, AND MICHAEL BELUCHE WILL BE HERE, UH, ON MY BEHALF, UH, NEXT MONTH.
WE NEED A MOTION TO SECOND ADJO.