May 07, 2025 Finance and Economic Resiliency Committee

MB 28 FOR SWIM WEEK? THANK YOU.

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UH, THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UH, ITEM MB EIGHT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UH, OB FOUR AND MB 15 ARE DEFERRED.

WE HAVE THREE TIMES CERTAINS MB 28 ON SWIM WEEK.

HAS A 10 30 TIME CERTAIN WILL BE THE FIRST ITEM.

UH, MB FIVE MIGHT BE SENIOR HIGH IMPROVEMENTS.

HAS A 10 50 TIME CERTAIN AND MB 35 ON SUNSET ISLANDS PARK, UH, AS AS AN 11:00 AM TIME CERTAIN.

AND THEN WE HAVE A SEVERAL LINKED ITEMS, IF HEARD, WILL BE HEARD, UH, AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, MB FOUR AND MB 12 ON EMPLOYEE PARKING PROGRAMS, OB SEVEN AND MB 13 ON ECONOMIC EC VARIOUS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATES, MB 31 AND MB 31 AND 32 ON SPECIAL TAXING AND SECURITY DISTRICTS.

MB 14 AND MB 23, VARIOUS ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROJECTS AND MB SEVEN MB 27 ON PROJECTION MAPPING ITEMS. THAT IS IT CHAIR.

OKAY, EXCELLENT.

SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, GET STARTED WITH OUR, UH, TIME, CERTAIN

[NB 28. DISCUSS EXPANDING MIAMI BEACH'S PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI SWIM WEEK]

UH, MB 2028, DISCUSS EXPANDING MIAMI BEACH'S PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI SWIM WEEK MB 28 LIZETTE.

WELCOME.

UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON A NUMBER OF JUST INCREDIBLE EVENTS THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN FRONT AND CENTER FOR THE CITY.

WE ARE TRULY BECOMING, UH, THE WORLD'S EPICENTER FOR EVENTS, ART, CULTURE, SPORTS, HEALTH WELLNESS, UH, YOU NAME IT.

THIS SEASON WE'VE HAD IT AND THEY'VE BEEN, UH, GETTING WORLDWIDE ATTENTION.

SO KUDOS TO YOU ON YOUR TEAM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW TO, UH, MAKE OUR CITY EVEN BETTER.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS IS ANTE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURE, CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.

UH, I'M HAPPY HERE TO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU DISCUSS EXPANDING MIAMI BEACH'S PARTNERSHIP WITH MIAMI SWIM WEEK.

UH, THIS WAS A REFERRAL ITEM THAT'S SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, OUR CHAIR, AND ALSO COMMISSIONER SU SUAREZ.

UM, MIAMI SWIM WEEK IS, UH, PRODUCED BY FUNCTION.

UH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE ITS 21ST EDITION HERE IN MIAMI BEACH IN COLLINS PARK.

IT'S A PREMIER EVENT, SWIMWEAR EVENT WHERE, UH, INTERNATIONAL SWIMWEAR BRANDS ARE SHOWCASED WITH RUNWAY SHOWS, AND THERE'S AMAZING EVENTS HAPPENING IN ALL OF OUR ADJACENT HOTEL PROPERTIES.

UH, THE EVENT ORGANIZER FUNCTION HAS SHARED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A NEW ELEMENT TO MIAMI SWIM WEEK THIS YEAR, AND IT'S CALLED THE SWIMWEAR ICONS HALL OF FAME.

THIS WILL BE, UH, RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, FIGURES IN THE SWIMWEAR AND FASHION INDUSTRY THAT HAVE CREATED A HUGE IMPACT.

UH, MIAMI SWIM WEEK, UH, DID NOT APPLY FOR ANY SPECIAL EVENT FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS EVENT, BUT THEY HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM MIAMI BEACH VCA FOR JUST MIAMI SWIM WEEK, AND THE AMOUNT OF 57,000 FOR THE 2025 SHOW.

UH, THEY ARE SEEKING A SPONSORSHIP OF 75,000 SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SWIMWEAR ICONS HALL OF FAME EVENT.

AND TODAY WE HAVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEIR TEAM, WHICH IS SEAN BARTY, AND WE HAVE SALLY SOVICH FROM FUNCTION.

THEY DO HAVE A SHORT VIDEO THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU REALLY QUICK, UH, PJ IF YOU HAVE IT READY.

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UH, KUDOS, UH, IS, AS I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS, SLE AND NATALIA, YOU, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY CREATED SWIM WEEK FROM SCRATCH 20 SOME YEARS AGO.

IT'S BECOME ICONIC AND, UH, INTEGRAL TO, UH, MIAMI BEACH AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE WEEK THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT, UH, HAD HISTORICALLY BEEN OUR SECOND SLOWEST, UH, TOURISM WEEK, UH, THE WEEK AFTER MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.

SO COUPLED WITH, UH, ALSO THE WEEK AFTER LABOR DAY OR TWO SLOWEST TIMES ALL YEAR.

SO THIS IS, UH, THIS TYPE OF THING IS WHAT'S GREAT FOR OUR GLOBAL BRAND.

UH, IT'S AN AMBASSADOR FOR OUR CITY.

I'D LOVE TO SEE IN A VIDEO LIKE THAT THAT'S GETTING SO MANY, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA IMPRESSIONS, EVEN MORE HOMAGE TO MIAMI BEACH.

UH, IF YOU CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND, UM, BUT LET ME HAND IT OVER TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS SEAN VARDY.

I'M THE, UH, CEO OF THINK HOSPITALITY, AND I'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH, UH, SLE AND NATALIA FOR THE LAST, I DUNNO, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.

UH, MY ROLE IN THIS IS, UM, WE CONTROL OR OPERATE AND MANAGE, YOU KNOW, 3000, 3,500 HOTEL ROOMS HERE IN MIAMI BEACH.

SO WHEN WE SEE POSITIVE IMPACTS FROM, UH, TOURISM WITHOUT ANY FORM OF CRIME AND WITHOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ISSUES TO, TO THE PUBLIC, WE KIND OF RUN TOWARDS THESE THINGS.

AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS COME TOGETHER OVER THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE THIS OR GROW THIS TO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.

AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB, UH, BY COMING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE RIGHT PROGRAMMING, YOU KNOW, TIED IN WITH MIAMI BEACH AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A CITY AND PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE A GLOBAL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT SWIM WEEK FOR JUST A MOMENT, IT'S STRANGE, BUT IT'S REALLY ONE OF ONE.

THERE IS NO OTHER SWIM WEEK THAT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST IN AUSTRALIA OR, OR IN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

SO MIAMI HAS THAT GLOBAL AUDIENCE, YOU KNOW, 4 BILLION IMPRESSIONS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO SNEEZE AT.

AND I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE COULD COME TOGETHER AND GROW THIS THING TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN IT'S NOT, THAN, THAN IT IS ALREADY.

WE BELIEVE, UM, THAT WE COULD ALSO HELP SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING AND, AND KIND OF REVITALIZATION OF THINGS THAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LINCOLN ROAD CONVERSATION AND, UH, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH UTILIZATION OF THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, AGAIN, NOT ONLY TO GET US TO GET MORE MARKETING DOLLARS, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOOT A COMMERCIAL, UH, AND MAYBE USE SOME OF THE, THE RUNWAY COMPONENTS OF THAT, WHAT WE DO ON LINCOLN ROAD SO THAT THE MIAMI BEACH WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S TANGIBLE THAT THEY CAN USE IN THAT REBRANDING EFFORT.

UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

AND AGAIN, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE WITH OUR GLOBAL AUDIENCE BY GETTING BIGGER INDIVIDUALS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT THE TIMING IS RIGHT AND WE HAVE THE, UH, TEAM TO DO IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PLACE WE ARE AS A CITY, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ME, BUT I REMEMBER FOLLOWING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, MAYBE IT WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO, WHERE MERCEDES-BENZ ACTUALLY WALKED AWAY FROM MIAMI BEACH AND SAID, MIAMI BEACH IS NO LONGER ALIGNED WITH OUR BRAND AND OUR IDENTITY FOR WHAT WE WANT AS A SHOW.

AND TO SIT HERE AND THINK, UH, ALL THESE YEARS LATER NOW, MIAMI SWIM WEEK IS LOOKING TO EXPAND, UH, REALLY TALKS ABOUT HOW FULL CIRCLE THAT WE'VE COME AS A CITY.

UM, SO, UH, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES OR STAFF IF, UH, IF, UH, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

BUT THIS IS THE EXACT TYPE OF THING THAT I THINK WE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE IT DOWN ON.

WE REALLY LOOK TO PROMOTE, ESPECIALLY AS, UH, IT'S NOT JUST FOR EVERYTHING THAT IT BRINGS TO OUR CITY, 30,000 ATTENDEES, BUT ALSO THE INTANGIBLE BENEFITS OF GETTING IMPRESSIONS LIKE THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE ADVERTISING, HAVING A FILM SHOT ON LINCOLN ROAD AS WE'RE TRYING TO REINVIGORATE THAT.

I, I THINK THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE DOWN.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE KIND OF RUNS TOWARDS.

AND I FURTHER THAT TO SAY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS FOR 15 PLUS 20 YEARS, AND THERE'S BEEN NO ELEMENT OF CRIME.

THERE'S BEEN NO ELEMENT OF BAD ACTING.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMMUNITY EVENT THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T LEAVE FOR THE SUMMER KIND OF JOIN AND, AND, AND CORRAL AROUND.

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AND, AND I THINK THAT THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY ARE A LITTLE BIT COMMUNITY BASED AND, AND PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY AS WELL, YOU KNOW, ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE ENCOURAGED AND KIND OF JUST KIND OF PUSH FORWARD HAND OVER MY PHONE.

DO YOU, UM, SEAN, I'M SORRY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CONNECT.

I KNOW YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO ME, BUT I, UM, WAS DIGGING OUT SOME PILES OF, OF THINGS.

UM, UM, DO YOU HAVE AN O IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OUTREACH WITH MAYBE JUNIOR HIGH OR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN, UM, DESIGN FASHION, UM, DO KIND OF WORKSHOPS, HANDS-ON KIND OF, UM, OUTREACH LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE DO IT.

WE ACTUALLY, SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY STRANGE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS WEEK.

SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE MOTHERS THAT COME WITH THEIR CHILDREN THAT ARE 15, 16, 17 YEARS OLD THAT ARE GETTING INTRODUCED.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOW DO I GET INVOLVED? WHAT DO I DO? AND, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM BEHIND ME, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY KIND OF WALK THEM AROUND ALMOST KINDA LIKE AN INTERN FOR THE WEEK AS A WORKSHOP, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF LIKE, NOT ONLY STARTING A CAREER IN THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR, WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR, HOW, WHAT DOES A CASTING, HOW DOES IT WORK, WHY DOES IT WORK? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE ALREADY DO IT, BUT WE COULD FORMALIZE IT ALONG WITH YOU GUYS AND, AND BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF PHILANTHROPIC STUFF, UH, INSIDE OF OUR COMPANIES COLLECTIVELY.

AND HONESTLY, THE MORE STUFF THAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, WE RUN TOWARDS AGAIN.

SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND I'M THINKING EVEN MORE, UM, AROUND DESIGN RATHER THAN EVENT MANAGEMENT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY BOTH ARE, UM, INTERESTING CAREER OPPORTUNITIES.

BUT YEAH, SO WE DO, UM, WE HOST COUPLE OF SCHOOL SHOWS.

UH, OF COURSE WE DO THAT FOR FREE FOR THEM.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, MIAMI-DADE COLLEGE, LIKE THEIR FASHION SCHOOL, UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ST.

THOMAS COMES AND DOES THE SHOW, AND THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THEIR CUR CURRICULUM.

IT'S LIKE A PART OF THEIR FINAL, YOU KNOW, SHOWCASE FOR THE STUDENTS.

UM, WE ALSO DO A LOT OF PROGRAMS WHERE WE PARTNER UP SCHOOLS.

UM, WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM, CORRUPT CYCLE, WHERE WE PARTNER UP SCHOOLS WITH, UH, UM, BIG DESIGNERS WHERE THEY, UH, KIND OF UPCYCLE THE, THE, UH, LEFTOVER MATERIALS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, IT'S A VERY HARD TO RECYCLE THE, THE BAITING SUITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE KIND OF, UH, PUT THE, THE SCHOOLS WITH, UH, WITH DESIGNERS AND THEY DESIGNED THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIONS.

AND THEN WE ALSO AWARD THEM WITH THE SCHOLARSHIP MONEY, RIGHT? SO WHOEVER OF THESE KIDS WINS, YOU KNOW, THEY GET A SCHOLARSHIP MONEY FOR THE SCHOOL.

SO WE ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH LIKE, EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS AND YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD BRING IT DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL.

SO IT'S MIAMI BEACH SPECIFIC.

AND THEN, UM, AS WE ARE GEARING UP FOR BLUE ZONE'S, UM, ACCREDITATION, HOPEFULLY OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF YEARS, I KNOW THIS IS MOSTLY A FASHION DRIVEN, UM, EVENT.

IS THERE PART OF, ARE ANY OF THE SHOWS DEDICATED TO MORE FUNCTIONAL SWIMWEAR? I MEAN, I, MOST OF THE SWIMWEAR IS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONAL.

UM, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO DO A SEGMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SHOW THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OCEAN SWIMMING OR, YOU KNOW, YES.

WE, WE, WE HAVE SHOWS LIKE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD ONE OF OUR DESIGNERS, IT'S LIKE VERY BIG IN, IN ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, FABRICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO WE PARTNER UP WITH MIAMI BEACH BALLET, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY WERE LIKE DOING LIKE A SPECIAL KIND OF COLLECTION FOR THAT.

SO WE, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S TRYING TO MAKE MORE AND MORE PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE ESTABLISHED DESIGNERS BECAUSE THEY ALSO SPREAD THE WORD MM-HMM .

FURTHER.

SO YEAH, WE, WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT AND WE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND SHOW YOU LIKE ALL THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

SO CAN WE ALSO DO OCEAN CLEANUPS? YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF OUR ROUTINE.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE SEEN THE AGENDA OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH FOR LIKE, ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT COME AND SIGN UP, BUT THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THAT ARE NOT REALLY SWIM WEEK, RUNWAY KIND OF VERSIONS OF IT THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN SO GREAT.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GROWN, REALLY, BECAUSE WE KEEP ADDING ON MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S A HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMPONENT, THERE'S OCEAN CLEANUP COMPONENT, THERE'S DESIGNING, REALLY, WE SHOULD, LIKE, I'LL PROBABLY SEND YOU KIND OF THE AGENDA OF WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE AND, AND ANYTHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THROW A LITTLE BIT OF FIRE ON TO GROW, I'D BE HAPPY TO.

GREAT.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS TO, TO MAKE THIS THING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN IT IS.

WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF JUST, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THIS POINT, BUT IT'S NOW FOR US TO KIND OF REALLY UTILIZE SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, RUN TOWARDS A GLOBAL AUDIENCE.

TERRIFIC.

AND I THINK, UH, AS PART OF THIS, YOU WERE ALSO LOOKING AT BRING SOMEBODY PRETTY ICONIC FOR THE KICKOFF OF THIS.

W WAS THAT EVER ABLE TO COME TO FRUITION? YEAH, I MEAN, TO BE FAIR, I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW.

THEY KNEW THE NAMES.

SO , I I WOULD'VE TO DEFER TO NATALIA, BUT WE, WE, WE WILL, BECAUSE WE'RE PREPARING LIKE, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PRESS RELEASE.

SO GIVE US LIKE A DAY OR SO TO FINALIZE IT.

SO BY THE END OF THIS WEEK IS THE GOAL TO, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT THERE AND, AND, YEAH.

WELL, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T SAY IT THEN.

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ALRIGHT.

UM, SO I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ HAS MOVED THAT, UH, I'LL SECOND IF I COULD JUST ASK ONE QUESTION.

I, I THINK IN READING THE ITEM IT MENTIONED ABOUT REQUESTING A SPECIAL EVENT, UH, FUNDING, AND I DO, THERE'S, UM, IT STATES THERE'S $57,000 WAS THROUGH THE VCA, WHICH IS BASICALLY MY MAYBE BEACH MONEY.

IS THIS CONFIRMING THE 57,000 OR IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL MONEY ABOVE THE 57,000? WE'RE ALREADY GIVING, I THINK THIS WAS FOR 70, UH, REQUEST FOR 75,000 AWAY FROM THE G-M-C-V-B AS THEY'RE EXPANDING THIS INTO THE, UH, GLOBAL HALL OF FAME AND THE ICONS OF SPOON WEEK.

YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT.

IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, UH, EVENT, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ENTITY.

THERE, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HALL OF OF FAME IS SEPARATE FROM THE MIAMI SWIM WEEK.

IF, IF I MAY BY HAPPENS DURING THE SAME TIME, IF I MAY, UH, JASON, SO THEY'RE RECEIVING 57,000 FROM MIAMI SWIM WEEK, WHICH INCLUDES PARAISO SWIM WEEK AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS.

THIS IS A SEPARATE, A NEW ELEMENT THAT THEY'RE ADDING TO MIAMI SWIM WEEK.

AND THE AMOUNT, 75,000, IT WASN'T IN THE MEMO.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

SO IT'S 75,000 THERE.

IT'S, IT'S IN THE MEMO.

OH, I MISSED THAT.

IT'S, SO I THINK THE MOTION I HEARING WOULD BE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER SPECIAL ED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $75,000 TO SUPPORT THE SWIMWEAR ICONS HALL OF FAME EVENT, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE 20 FY 26 BUDGET PROCESS.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ MADE THE MOTION.

I SECOND.

HEARING NONE OPPOSED PASSES THREE, NOTHING.

CONGRATS.

LOOK FORWARD TO AN AMAZING WEEK.

LET'S GO ON TO THE, UH, CAN WE GET THE 10? YES.

10 50 TIME CERTAIN, UM, FOR THE MIAMI BEACH SENIOR HIGH IMPROVEMENTS.

FIVE, REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE, DISCUSS POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTION TO MAYO BEACH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL TO HELP FUND RENOVATIONS OF THE FIELD.

LEMME GET THAT IN THERE.

[NB 5. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE - DISCUSS POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTION TO MIAMI BEACH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL TO HELP FUND RENOVATIONS OF FIELD.]

MB FIVE.

GOOD MORNING, LESLIE ROSENFELD, CHIEF EDUCATION OFFICER.

UH, THIS ITEM IS A REQUEST FROM THE MINE BEACH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL PTA, TO SUPPORT SOME, UH, PROPOSED FIELD IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE WITH US JULIE BASNER, WHO IS THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE MINE BEACH, SENIOR HIGH PTA.

SO I WILL ASK HER TO INFORM YOU.

STUDENTS, BUT FOR OUR STAFF AND FOR VISITORS.

AND I'M HERE WITH RACHEL WEISSMAN.

SHE'S PART OF THE PTA LEADERSHIP TEAM AT, UM, BEACH HIGH.

SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION OF A FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE INSTALLATION OF A, UM, SHADE STRUCTURE THAT WE FEEL IS NECESSARY ON OUR CAMPUS.

UH, THE IDEA FOR A SHADE STRUCTURE ORIGINATED, UM, WHEN OUR PTSA RAISED $24,000 LAST NOVEMBER ON GIVE MIAMI DAY.

AND WE TYPICALLY USE THAT MONEY TOWARD, UM, SOME SORT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WITH THE PRINCIPAL'S, UM, UH, UM, PREFERENCE, BASICALLY.

SO, MR. IAN, OUR PRINCIPAL, HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE IMPROVE THE ATHLETIC FIELD AMENITIES, WHICH INCLUDE BLEACHERS, A SHADE STRUCTURE, A FENCE, UM, BETWEEN THE BLEACHERS AND THE ATHLETIC FIELD STORAGE SHEDS, AND ALSO, UH, PRIVACY FROM THE CITY'S WELL LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE PRIVACY, UM, FROM THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL SPACE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE FIELD.

SO, UM, WITH OUR, THE PSA'S COMMITMENT TO CONTRIBUTE $24,000 AND THE SCHOOL'S COMMITMENT TO PURCHASE TWO SETS OF BLEACHERS, TWO STORAGE SHEDS, AND THE FENCE, UM, THAT I REFERENCED, OUR REQUEST OF THE CITY IS STRICTLY FOR A SHADE STRUCTURE AND CONCRETE PADS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE FIVE BLEACHERS THAT SETS OF BLEACHERS THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE.

UM, WHY ? WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT TO US? WE FEEL THAT OUR OUTDOOR SPACES AT BEACH HIGH ARE VITAL TO STUDENT LIFE.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THE CITY CON CONTRIBUTED TO OUR PATIO PROJECT, WE FEEL THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO, UM, TO THAT OUR FIELD IS CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED FOR, UM, PE CLASSES, FOR, UM, ATHLETIC EVENTS, PRACTICES, AND ALSO EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

AS YOU KNOW, EXTREME HEAT HAS BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND INTENSE.

AND SO THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES A HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERN, NOT ONLY FOR OUR

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OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPOSED ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

MANY OF THEM PRACTICE AND THEY PLAY WITH HEAVY GEAR ON GAMES ARE OFTEN PLAYED IN THE LATE AFTERNOON WHILE IT'S STILL QUITE HOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTS ON THE FIELD.

WE ARE THE ONLY PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, AS YOU KNOW, IN MIAMI BEACH, AND I BELIEVE THE ONLY SCHOOL IN MIAMI BEACH, WHICH DOESN'T OFFER ANY SHADED AREA FOR PLAY.

FURTHERMORE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD SERVE AS A RESOURCE FOR, UM, THE WIDER COMMUNITY OFFERING A SPACE FOR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS AND ATHLETIC EVENTS.

UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE.

IT WOULD SPAN FOUR SETS OF BLEACHERS AND EACH BLEACH SET OF BLEACHERS CAN HOLD 125 STUDENTS.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD BENEFIT AS MANY AS 500 STUDENTS AT ONE TIME.

IT'S, UM, DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS AND IT WILL BE BOTH FUNCTIONAL AND AESTHETICALLY, UM, INTEGRATED WITH THE FIELD.

IN TERMS OF, UM, COST, AND IT DID SUBMIT LAST NIGHT, IT WAS KIND OF LATE, BUT A, UM, AN UPDATED QUOTE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT WE ENLISTED THE HELP OF A CONTRACTOR WHO WE HAD WORKED WITH AT BEACH HIGH ON A PRIOR PROJECT, AND WE ASKED HIM TO, UM, BID OUT THIS PROJECT AND HE DID, UM, AND THEN BEGAN TO ASSEMBLE, UM, SOME COST ESTIMATES FOR US.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE THE BID IN, I MEAN, THE BID IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT, OR THE COST, UH, THE QUOTE, SORRY.

THE COST OF THE SUNSHADE IS APPROXIMATELY $93,000.

THE CONCRETE PADS $25,000, AND THE CONTRACTOR'S OVERHEAD AND PROFIT ABOUT $25,000.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO $143,000 IN CHANGE.

NOW WITH OUR, THE PSA'S CONTRIBUTION, WE'RE REQUESTING $120,000 FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO MAKE THIS ENTIRE PROJECT A REALITY CHAIR.

HI JULIE.

HI.

HOW, HOW MUCH OF AN AREA DOES THIS COVER? THE BLEACHERS ? CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE ON, UM, ONE SIDE OF THE FIELD, AND WE WOULD, UM, ADD TWO MORE ON THAT SAME SIDE OF THE FIELD.

THE, THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I WANTED TO PUT A SHADE.

WE DID, WE, WE APPROVED THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON LOOMIS PARK AND THE KIDS' PLAYGROUND, AND THAT WAS LIKE $250,000 AND YOU'RE COMING, YOU, YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT'S SAYING THEY CAN DO IT FOR ONE 40.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT'S, I DUNNO, SOMEONE I SAID BEFORE IT WAS EVEN MORE, IT WAS LIKE FOUR, 400.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, WE'RE WE'RE, HOLD ON.

WE'RE, I'D LIKE STAFF TO COME UP HERE AND TELL ME WHY IS THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER DEAL THAN WE ARE, JOHN.

SORRY, JOHN .

WELL, SEEING HOW, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS OF WHAT THEY HAVE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THEY ARE GETTING A BETTER DEAL, IF IT'S APPLES TO APPLES OR IF IT'S APPLES TO WATERMELONS.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE GO OFF OF DIFFERENT, UM, PIGGYBACK BIDS, STATE CONTRACTS.

IT'S, ALL OF OUR ITEMS ARE EXTREMELY PROCURED, LIKE DIGITALLY PROCURED FOR COMPETITIVENESS.

SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN UNFORTUNATELY.

SO THE QUOTE INCLUDES FIVE CONCRETE PADS THAT ARE FIF MEASURE 15 BY 24.

SO, UM, ABOUT 115 FEET LONG WOULD, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GETTING A GREAT DEAL.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THIS RATE, WE COULD PUT A LOT MORE SHADES ON A, A LOT OF OUR CITY PARKS.

I DON'T WANT TO, I'M SORRY TO GET YOU OFF TOPIC, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF TELLS US IT'S A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS FOR LIKE A LITTLE SHADE ON A PARK, BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT BLEACHERS IT'S ONLY 150,000.

UM, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPLES TO APPLES.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CALLING UP HERE WITH A YEAH.

WITH A NON-CITY EMPLOYEE PROVIDED QUOTE ON THE FLY.

MAYBE YOU CAN PROVIDE IT TO, TO, TO US AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE IT TO JOHN.

JUST REFER YOU OUR CONTRACTOR IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH, I MEAN, HE HAPPENS TO BE AN APPROVED VENDOR OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO A PARENT.

THAT THIS IS PENDING THE SCHOOL BOARD'S APPROVAL.

AND, AND WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, ARE WE, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS, IS ON WITH THIS, BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO TO SAY

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ARE THEY FUNDING ANY OF THIS? WELL, THE PRINCIPAL OUT OF HIS DISCRETIONARY FUND IS FUNDING PART OF THIS, AND I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS FUNDING HIS BUDGET.

SO, UM, HOW MUCH DO YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, WHAT, WHAT IS HE ALLOCATING TOWARD THIS PROJECT? TWO BLEACHERS, 5,000 EACH.

UM, 10,000 PLUS THE SHEDS ARE NOT FENCE 20, BUT, BUT IF I MAY, THE, IF THE SHADE STRUCTURE WAS 1 43 WITH THE ASK OF ONE 20 TO 23,000 IS COMING FROM THE PTA OR FROM THE SCHOOL? FROM THE PTA AND SO OF THE STATE STRUCTURE, THERE'S NOTHING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

AND, AND AS FAR ARE IS, I MEAN, TECHNICALLY THIS IS A SCHOOL BOARD ISSUE, BUT ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HIRE THEIR CONTRACTOR TO, TO DO OH, ACTUALLY THAT WAS GONNA, THAT WAS THE ONE THAT I KNOW.

SO I WAS GONNA ASK, THAT WAS THE QUESTION WAS MPLEMENTATION, IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION ON MY ITEM, MR. CHAIR.

OH, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

, I WASN'T ABLE TO INTRODUCE MY ITEM, BUT I'M SORRY.

DR.

ROSENFELD DOES A GOOD JOB, UH, A VERY GOOD JOB.

AND I WOULD DEFER TO DR.

ROSENFELD ANY DAY.

UM, SO, AND AND TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER SU SUAREZ, THE, THE QUOTE WAS REQUESTED BY THE PTA, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO THE PTA IT, IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

UH, AND SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WOULD, WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE IN QUOTES, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THE CITY WOULD GET AS OPPOSED TO A PRIVATE ENTITY GETTING A QUOTE FOR THE SAME THING.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

IT'S A BROKEN SYSTEM OF BUREAUCRACY AND, UH, IT DOESN'T SERVE THE TAXPAYERS WELL.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE FACT THAT THE PTA IS INVOLVED AND THAT THE PTA IS GETTING THE QUOTE, IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONER, SO TO YOUR POINT, UH, IT IS, IT IS TO THE TAXPAYER'S BENEFIT.

'CAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD LIKELY COST MORE CAN THOUGH I SPEAK TO THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A CONTRACTOR THAT HAS BEEN COMPETITIVE COMPETITIVELY PROCURED THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

SO THIS PROJECT WOULD BE MANAGED BY MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

MM-HMM .

AND I DID SPEAK WITH, UM, A PROJECT MANAGER WHO, UM, I THINK HE WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER ASSIGNED TO OUR PATIO PROJECT AND ALSO TO OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT, UM, TO UNDERSTAND IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO SELECT WHO WE WANTED TO USE AS A CONTRACTOR.

AND WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO ME WAS THAT IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT FUNDING THIS PROJECT, THAT THEY WOULD PERMIT US TO USE WHOMEVER WE, WE WANT.

AND NOW THIS CONTRACTOR HAPPENS TO BE AN APPROVED VENDOR OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

SO IF MR. CHAIR, IF, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PTA HAS DONE ITS PART, UH, IN RAISING FUNDS, UH, FOR THIS.

UH, AND, UH, AND I THINK THE PTA HAS ALWAYS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE A GOOD PARTNER.

AND THE CITY HAS, HAS PRIDE ITSELF IN IN SUPPORTING IT.

IT'S NOT A CITY MANAGED PROJECT.

ULTIMATELY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROJECT MANAGED BY, UH, MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I DO WANT CONFIRMATION OF THAT.

I'M NOT, SO, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, UM, CONFIDENTLY SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION IN THIS SPACE.

IF THERE'S A DESIRE FOR US TO, UM, PERHAPS SUPPORT THE PROJECT, THEN WE WOULD REACH TO M-D-C-P-S TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REACH TO OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

BUT THAT IS THE ONLY TIME OF USE WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

I SUSPECT THIS COULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THE SCOREBOARD INSTALLATION WHERE, UM, IT STARTED AS A, UH, PTA REQUESTED, UH, PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE PTA HAD OBTAINED FUNDING FROM THE NFL AS A DONATION.

THAT DONATION CAME INTO THE CITY AND THE CITY ULTIMATELY MANAGED THE PROJECT.

BUT WE DID GO THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT PER, UH, PROCESS BECAUSE THE COST, UM, EXCEEDED THE THRESHOLD.

SO, UH, BEING THAT THE COST OF THIS SHADE STRUCTURE WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW SUIT, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT MANAGED BY M-D-C-P-S.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON, UM, THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE HERE AND HOW WE WANNA APPROACH THEM.

COMMISSIONER BOB, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, IS THE DR.

ROSENFELD IS THE FIELD CURRENTLY, UM, A SHARED USE FIELD LIKE WE HAVE IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE IF THE SCHOOL IS CLOSED, THE COMMUNITY CAN USE THE FACILITIES? SO WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT WAS PART OF THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE ARTIFICIAL TURF WHERE THE CITY GAINS ACCESS TO THE FIELD ON SUNDAYS, UM, TO BE MANAGED, UH, AND SCHEDULED THROUGH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO I WOULD DEFER TO, UH, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AS TO, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY HAS, UH, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT, UM, PARTNERSHIP.

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UM, AND IT WOULD REMAIN THAT BECAUSE MIAMI BEACH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS USE THEIR FIELD? WELL, WELL INTO THE EVENING HOURS, THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN ACCESS, BUT POTENTIALLY SATURDAY, CURRENTLY? YEAH.

WE WERE RESTRICTED TO SUNDAYS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL USES THEIR FIELD ON SATURDAYS.

OH, OKAY.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, JULIE, I THINK MAY BE MORE FOR YOU GUYS, AND IT'S JUST MY IGNORANCE, I'M NOT TRYING TO PLAY GOTCHA.

UM, THE FIELD IS A, A PRACTICE FIELD MOSTLY, OR RECREATION OR, OR GYM CLASS OR WHATEVER.

BUT THE TEAMS, THE FOOTBALL TEAM IN PARTICULAR PLAYS AT THE, UM, AT FLAMINGO PARK, I, UM, ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH AT ONE OF OUR VICE ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS YESTERDAY OVER ATHLETICS TO CONFIRM THAT.

EXACTLY.

AND HE DID SAY THAT SOME OF THE GAMES GET PLAYED, THE FOOTBALL GAMES GET PLAYED AT, UH, BEACH HIGH AS DO SOCCER GAMES.

AND ALSO, UM, FLAG FOOTBALL.

SO IT IS USED FOR COMPETITION OCCASIONALLY, NOT JUST PRACTICE.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UM, THE NEED FOR A SUPER FANCY NFL UM, SCOREBOARD, WHICH IS AWESOME.

I'M NOT BEGRUDGING IT AT ALL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF THAT'S NOT BEING USED FOR GAMES, IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

BUT THAT'S GREAT THAT IT IS.

UM, HAVE YOU, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PRINCIPAL IS FUNDING THROUGH DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, BUT NOBODY'S APPROACHED THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR ANY CONTRIBUTION AT ALL.

WE'RE PURSUING THIS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WE SPEAK.

HAVE YOU REACHED, OR SO HAVE YOU, AS PART OF THAT PURSU, ARE YOU IN CONTACT WITH REPRESENTATIVE GELLER? WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH REPRESENTATIVE GELLER AND, UM, WE PLAN TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT THIS AS OBVIOUSLY HE WILL NEED TO BRING IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

BUT WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS HIS INITIAL I WAS READING ON IT, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME.

WHAT, I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS HIS INITIAL TAKE ON IT? WELL, HE'S IN SUPPORT OF IT.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING? FINISH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALIZE THIS ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD YOU WANT.

NO, IT'S FINE.

UM, BUT 85% OF THEIR BUDGET GOES TO SALARIES.

SO THEY HAVE NO DISCRETION MONEY, WHICH IS WHY WE LITERALLY HAVE TO RAISE MONEY FOR TEACHERS.

THE PTA FUNDING IS ESSENTIAL.

UM, I WAS OUT THERE AND SAW THE NEW SCOREBOARD.

CONGRATULATIONS.

IT ONLY TOOK HOW MANY YEARS? FOUR.

BUT WE GOT IT.

AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE BLEACHERS AND THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE FINALLY GONNA HAVE A PLACE TO REALLY WATCH GAMES LIKE REGULAR HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK AS FAR AS GETTING MONEY FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.

AND THE FACT THAT THE PTA WAS ABLE TO RAISE THE $23,000 WITH THE PARKING LOT, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE EVENTS LIKE THAT AS WE PROGRAM THE CONVENTION CENTER TO WORK WITH YOU OVERFLOW PARKING SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN MAKE MORE MONEY TO FUND THE SCHOOL.

AND I, I'LL, I WOULD WORK WITH YOU ON THAT INITIATIVE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ FOR SPONSORING THIS OF US.

AND ONE THING, FINAL THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM, AND THIS IS NOT, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURE.

RECENTLY I WAS TRYING TO GET EACH TRAILER FOR THE, I'M NOT THROWING SHADE , NO PUN INTENDED, PUN INTENDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS RECENTLY TRYING TO GET A TRAILER FOR THE KITTY CAMPUS AND THEY HAD GONE AND GOTTEN AN ESTIMATE AND IT WAS LIKE $140,000 FOR THIS TRAILER SO THAT THEY COULD SPAY AND NEUTER THE CATS ON SITE.

AND THE ESTIMATE THAT I GOT FROM THE CITY WAS LIKE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

IT WAS SO RIDICULOUS THAT IT JUST RUINED THE WHOLE IDEA.

SO IF WE HAD THE POTENTIAL TO GET A TRAILER FOR $140,000 AND NOT THE MILLION DOLLARS, I THINK AS WE SEE THESE, I THINK WE NEED TO LITERALLY CALL VENDORS AND THEN JUST WAVE THE BIDDING PROCESS AND GO WITH THE VENDORS.

'CAUSE IF WE COULD GET FOUR STRUCTURES FOR THE PRICE OF WHAT'S COSTING US ONE, I TRIED TO, WE TRIED TO GET THE SHADE STRUCTURE FOR CANOPY PARK AND IT CAME IN AT $400,000 AND IT WAS A QUARTER OF THE SIZE.

SO, UM, WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

I'M NOT BLAMING ANY OF OUR DIRECTORS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE.

WE'RE PAYING INFLATED PRICES AND, UH, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO, WHEN WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

MAY, MAY I JUST ADD ONE MORE THING BEFORE WE DISCUSS.

UM, SO SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SUPPORT, SO AT YOUR OWN RISK.

INVOLVEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT.

IT'S MIAMI BEACH SENIOR IS 100TH ANNIVERSARY 2026.

INCREDIBLE.

UH, THANK YOU LADIES FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO THE SCHOOL AS A PTA FATHER.

I, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR SCHOOLS IN MIAMI BEACH SPECIAL IS, UH, THE PARENTAL

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SO THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS YOU TAKE.

I WILL CAVEAT THIS WITH, IS THERE POTENTIAL RISK THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD COMES BACK AND SAYS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND FIND A SIMILARLY INFLATED PRICE OF THREE OR $400,000 AND WE ESSENTIALLY LOOKED AT A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGET ALLOCATION.

SO I, REFLECTING BACK ON THE PROCESS WE USED WITH OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM FOR THE SCOREBOARD, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE VENDOR THAT WAS SUGGESTED BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF, UH, AN APPROVED CONTRACT.

SO IF THIS VENDOR, AND I'VE NOT SEEN THE QUOTE, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE VENDOR.

IF THE VENDOR, UH, HAS A CONTRACT THAT OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT SAYS IS, UH, AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN PIGGYBACK OFF OF, AND IF THEY ARE AN APPROVED VENDOR OF M-D-C-P-S, IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THEN, UH, I THINK WE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCESS.

COMMISSIONER BOT AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.

AND THEN CROSS OUR FINGERS.

HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO FOLLOW THAT.

DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MOVE THE ITEM? I'LL MOVE IT.

I'LL MOVE IT.

I'LL THIRD, I THINK THE, UH, THE ITEM IS TO RETURN TO COMMISSIONER WITH A FAVOR OF RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER FUNDING A SHEET STRUCTURE RILEY BEACH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000 TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE FY 26 BUDGET PROCESS.

AND WE'LL SHOW IT WAS A TIE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL SHOW COMMISSIONER BOT THIS TIME.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AND MR. CHAIR, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO JOIN US, A CO-SPONSOR, THEY'RE WELCOME TO.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AS COMMISSIONER ROSE, I'M SPONSORING IT, BUT LIKE THIS IS ALL OF US.

I'LL LOOK ALL OF YOU AND I KNOW ALL OF US, ALL OF US CO.

IS THIS ALLOCATION FOR 2025 OR 2026? WELL, IT'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UH, MB 35, WHICH IS DISCUSS FY 26 BUDGET PRIORITIZATION FOR RENOVATION OF SUNSET ISLANDS PARK AND INCLUDE RESIDENT OPTIONS AND FEEDBACK.

26TH.

SO WE'LL SHOW COMMISSIONER, UM, BOT KRISTEN ROSE AND GONZALEZ AND I THINK ALREADY AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ AND YES.

COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE.

YOU ALREADY ARE AS ADDITIONAL COSPONSORS.

SO LET'S, UH, CONTINUING ON THE THEME OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVING PERHAPS BETTER PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAN US, OUR FRIENDS FROM SUNSET ISLES, UH, COMING UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I SAY THAT SOMEWHAT IN JEST, BUT, UM, ITEM 35, MB 35,

[NB 35. DISCUSS FY 2026 BUDGET PRIORITIZATION OF RENOVATION FOR SUNSET ISLANDS PARK AND INCLUDE RESIDENTS' OPTIONS AND FEEDBACK.]

NB 35, WE'LL GO ON A MORE POSITIVE TONE WHERE IT'S, WE'LL CONTINUE THE THEME OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS SHOWING SUCH INCREDIBLE ENGAGEMENT OF YOU HAVE THIS PARK THERE, BUT YOU'VE TAKEN THE EXTRA STEP AND LAID OUT WHAT THESE DESIGNS ARE, WHAT THE POSSIBLE COSTS ARE, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH FEEDBACK THROUGH YOUR HOA, UH, ESSENTIALLY DREAMS THAT THIS PARK COULD LOOK LIKE.

AND YOU HAVE THE DESIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO LET ME TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

AWESOME, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME'S JULIE MICHAEL AND I'M A RESIDENT OF SUNSET ISLAND TWO.

I'M ALSO, UM, A VP ON OUR HOA BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.

I'M JESSICA TI, I'M A RESIDENT OF SUNSET ISLAND ONE.

UM, I HAVE THREE CHILDREN THAT PLAY AROUND THE ISLANDS.

UM, AND YEAH, WE'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT THE PARK.

I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDESHOW AS WELL.

THERE ARE CHILDREN EVERYWHERE.

WONDERFUL.

SO SUNSET, THE PARK ON SUNSET ISLAND TWO HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE ISLAND'S INCEPTION AT AROUND 1930.

SINCE 1930, THERE HAS BEEN NO MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS INTO, INTO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND, AND AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SHIFTED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE KIND OF COVID, I MOVED IN 2017 TO MIAMI, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE ISLANDS HAVE SHIFTED TO BE MUCH YOUNGER.

UM, BABIES.

I HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD AND A ONE AND A HALF YEAR OLD.

AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE PARK AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST CREATE AN OPPORT, A SPACE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UM, ENJOY AND ALSO BE SAFE.

UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR YOUR GUYS TO SEE AND ENJOY HOPEFULLY.

UM, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE'LL, WE'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE HOPING TO IMPROVE.

OH, IT'S ME.

I'M THE ONE THAT GOES TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS ONE.

MUDDY AND NOT THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE AN EVENT.

UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WOULD LIKE A, AN EVENT FIELD.

SOME OF YOU HAVE VISITED OUR, UM, OUR PARK, UH, DURING OUR, UH, ANNUAL PICNIC AND SAW THAT IT WAS

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UH, WE LOVE GETTING OUR NEIGHBORS TOGETHER.

THE KIDS LOVE TO PLAY IN THE GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT THEY COME HOME DISGUSTING, UH, FULL OF MUD, UH, FROM HEAD TO TOE.

THEY, I SOMETIMES HOSE THEM OFF BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED BACK INTO MY HOUSE.

SO OUR FIRST, OUR FIRST THING THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR WAS, UM, A FOER FIELD.

UH, HERE WE'VE PLACED IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK.

BUT ACTUALLY YESTERDAY, UH, THEY WERE REPLACING SOME OF OUR TURF FOR US, WHICH WAS WONDERFUL AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT WE SAW THAT WHEN THEY PULLED UP, UH, THE OLD MUD AND THEY WERE PUTTING DOWN THE NEW TURF THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY, LIKE IN THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE WE NEED TO MAYBE RELOCATE ONE, UH, TWO, POSSIBLY THREE TREES THAT ARE THERE, WHICH WE ACTUALLY LOVE THE TREES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY PROVIDE A LOT OF SHADE FOR US.

UM, BUT WHEN THEY PULLED UP THAT OLD SOD, WE SAW THAT WE COULD EASILY WORK AROUND THE TREES AS WELL, WHICH ACTUALLY MIGHT EVEN LOWER OUR BUDGET 'CAUSE WE COULD NOT RELOCATE THOSE TREES.

UM, I HAVE SOME PICTURES ON MY PHONE THAT I CAN SHOW YOU IF YOU WANT THAT WORKED AROUND THE TREES.

UM, AND IT MIGHT EVEN BE LIKE AN INTERESTING WAY TO PUT THE FIELD IN AS WELL, BECAUSE, UH, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SOME BENCHES THAT WERE UNDER THE TREES.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

ME.

PUT TOGETHER THESE DESIGNS AND THESE PLANS.

AND HERE YOU CAN SEE A RENDERING OF WHAT THE PLAY FIELD, UM, AND EVENT LAWN WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UH, WE ALSO ADDED A CURB AROUND IT TO PROTECT FROM RUNOFF AND IN, UH, THE INTEGRITY OF THE FIELD WOULD REMAIN.

UH, THERE'S FOUR BEAUTIFUL BENCHES AROUND RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE BENCH, SO YOU HAVE TO RUN ACROSS THE ENTIRE FIELD TO TAKE A BREAK.

UM, WE HAVE SOME, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE YOUNGER NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME ELDERLY RESIDENTS THAT LIKE TO WALK IN THE PARK AND AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THEY HAD A PLACE TO STOP AND TAKE A BREAK.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT THE FIELD AND THE WALKING PERIMETER IS NO, CORRECT? UH, YES.

WE HAVE A SITE ABOUT THAT AND, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.

SO YOU GO UP THERE AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH, YOU SEE FAMILIES PUSHING STROLLERS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

PEOPLE ARE GOING BY, UM, OR EVEN WANTING TO EXERCISE.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, SAFE DESIGNATED AREA.

SO THIS WOULD SERVE AS THAT EXACTLY AS YOU'RE SAYING.

HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL PATHWAYS.

, JULIE, WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH THE PARK, AND WE WILL HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT HERE YOU SEE THEM KIND OF INTERSPERSED AMONGST THE TREES, SO THEY WOULD HAVE NATURAL SHADE AS WELL.

UM, WE ADDED IN, WE WANTED TO ADD IN, UH, SOME PLAY ELEMENTS INTO THE PARK THAT WERE NON-OBTRUSIVE, BEAUTIFULLY INTEGRATED, AND DIDN'T CREATE KIND OF A PRIMARY COLOR, LIKE GIANT EYESORE FOR THE NEIGHBORS ADJOINING, UH, UH, NEXT TO THE PARK.

UM, AND WE ALSO WANTED TO KEEP THINGS ARTISTIC IN RESPECT OF MIAMI'S COMMITMENT TO HAVING ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, AS WELL AS JUST OUR DESIRE FOR A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, OKAY, SO THIS SHOWS, UH, THE OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE PATHWAY WOULD GO AROUND THE PARK.

AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE ARE SOME MEANDERING PATHS THROUGH THE PARK.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE IN A VERY SAFE PLACE, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AS THE COMMISSIONER ALREADY SAID.

UM, SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE FOR THE CHILDREN TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND FOR PEOPLE TO WALK.

AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE SHOULD BRING THIS UP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S BEEN PETS THAT HAVE BEEN STRUCK RECENTLY BY CARS.

SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE SAFETY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, AND DOES EACH ISLAND HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL PARK, OR IS THIS ESSENTIALLY SERVE AS THE CENTRALIZED PARK FOR ALL THE VARIOUS ISLANDS? THIS IS THE CENTRALIZED PARK FOR SUNSET ISLANDS ONE AND TWO, WHICH ARE CONNECTED.

THREE AND FOUR DO HAVE THEIR OWN SMALLER PARK, UH, THAT DOES EXIST FOR THEM.

UM, IN THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE, UH, A BEAUTIFUL RENDERING OF THE PATHWAYS, HOW THE INTERSPERSED, UM, PLAY EQUIPMENT WILL BE HIDDEN NICELY, BUT UNDER THE BEAUTIFUL SHADE TREES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO WE'VE ADDED MORE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PERMITTER PERMIT.

PERIMETER.

PERIMETER THANK YOU, OF THE PARK, UM, TO PREVENT ILLEGAL PARKING AND TO ADD ANOTHER BUFFER, UM, FOR THE CHILDREN TO NOT JUST RUN OUT TO THE STREET.

NO, IT, I MEAN, AFTER COMING TO THE, UH, UH, ANNUAL PICNIC THERE, THIS IS NEEDED.

WE JUST LAUNCHED A, UH, TURF IT CANOPY PARK AND IT'S JUST A COMPLETE GAME CHANGER.

JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF WEIGH IN WITH WHERE THIS PROCESS IS GOING? AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU PRIVATELY TOOK IT UPON YOURSELVES TO

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JOHN, WHAT WOULD BE THE ROUGH COST JUST FOR THE DESIGN IF WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT? OH, AT LEAST 25 TO 50,000 DEPENDING ON HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR WE WENT INTO IT JUST FOR DESIGN.

SO POINT BEING A CONCEPTUAL AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT INITIATIVE AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE EFFORTS OF, UH, OF YOUR COLLECTIVE COMMUNITY.

SO JOHN, WHERE, UH, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE? SO WHERE WE'RE AT IS ONE, ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS THAT I DO EVERY YEAR IS TRYING TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET.

IT IS WHAT PARK PROJECT ISN'T EXCITING AND AMAZING.

SO WHEN, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO US, THIS AUTOMATICALLY GOES INTO FIFTH YEAR AS A NEW PROJECT, THE FIFTH YEAR OF OUR CAPITAL PLAN.

AND THEN IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, NOW COMES HERE TO SEE IF THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION WANT TO REPRIORITIZE THAT.

SO CURRENTLY IT'S IN OUR CAPITAL REQUEST.

IT'S IN YEAR FIVE OF THE CAPITAL PLAN AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA PRIORITIZE THAT HEAVILY THIS YEAR.

AND THE TOTAL COST, UH, IN THE MEMO WAS AROUND JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND COULD THIS BE MULTI-PHASE? SO ESSENTIALLY, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO HALF OF THAT THIS YEAR AND THEY ACTUALLY GET IMPROVEMENTS THIS YEAR AND ANOTHER HALF NEXT YEAR, OR IS THIS KIND OF A, A ONE OR DONE? NO LOOK, LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT COULD BE MORE EASILY PHASED THAN OTHER PROJECTS.

MORE WE PHASED.

WE ALSO HAD A SLIDE, UM, SORRY AT THE END THAT SHOWS A REVISION TO THE BUDGET, UM, BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE HARD COSTS AND WE HAD SOME, UM, BUDGETED OUT AND WE, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT TOO.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, AS YOU WERE SAYING, SAYING WE HAD SOME PRIVATE BITS EXACTLY AS YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE, THE LAST, UM, THE SCHOOL THAT JUST SPOKE THAT WE GOT BETTER PRICES THAN YOU, SORRY, .

UM, OH, IT'S KIND OF SMALL, BUT I LOVE THIS.

OUR RESIDENTS GETTING GREAT PRICES.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, BUDGETING DOWNWARDS, YOU KNOW, SAVING.

I LOVE THE THEME THAT WE SEE HERE TODAY.

UM, SO WE ALSO DID ALREADY HAD A SURVEY, UM, PROCURED.

SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT SURVEY OF THE PARK, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE OUR BOTTOM LINE IS MUCH LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT AND THIS INCLUDES 15% CONTINGENCIES PLUS SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE THINK THE CITY, UM, ADDS TO THEIR BUDGET.

LIKE THE ART IN PUBLIC SPACES PERMITTING, UM, JOC, WHICH WE HAD TO GOOGLE, BUT NOW WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS, , UM, AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM.

SO WE ADDED THAT IN AS WELL.

JOB.

AND WE HAVE ZEROS IN ALL THE NUMBERS WHERE WE REALIZED THAT THERE YOU GUYS PUT IN THINGS THAT WE WEREN'T REALLY LOOKING FOR.

SO WE JUST ZEROED THAT OUT.

SOME QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE A SIDE HUSTLE OF DESIGNING PARKS BECAUSE IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

UM, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA OF, UM, KEEPING THE, THE SHADE TREES AND LAYING THE FAUX SOD AROUND IT.

I THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES ALL THE GOALS AND KEEPS THE TREES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ALL WANT.

AND, UH, THE CURLY SWINGS ARE FABULOUS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE BEFORE.

SO SERIOUSLY, LIKE THROW UP AN INSTAGRAM PAGE AND PARKS A RUSS .

UM, UH, MY QUESTION, AND THIS MAY BE MORE OF A JOHN AND PUBLIC WORKS QUESTION, BUT I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU GUYS DON'T FLOOD TERRIBLY.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE FLOOD TERRIBLY.

YOU DO FLOOD TERRIBLY.

WE HAD SOMEBODY LITERALLY KAYAK.

SO I, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS MISINFORMED.

SO, BUT ALL THE BETTER.

UM, MY WISH WOULD BE THAT AS THAT ESPECIALLY THAT EVENT AND, AND FIELD SPACE IS REDONE, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NOT THAT MUCH WILL BE EXCAVATED ELSEWHERE, BUT THAT SPACE BECOMES A CISTERN UNDERNEATH TO HOLD WATER, TO SIPHON OFF WATER, WHATEVER WE CAN DO FOR RESILIENCY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDS TO THE COST, BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IN WHO'S THE BEST PERSON TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I THINK IT WON'T HAVE ANY TANGIBLE IMPACTS ON THE PLAY VALUE AND THE EVENT SPACE VALUE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE VERY TANGIBLE EFFECTS ON, UM, RESILIENCY ISSUES.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE THAT COULD AFFECT IS THAT I THINK A CISTERN HAS TO BE AT THE LOWEST POINT.

AND THERE'S OTHER PARTS OF OUR ISLANDS THAT, UM, ARE LOW POINTS ALREADY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUILD UP A LOT OF THE EXISTING AREAS.

UM, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY.

BUT THE ISLANDS ARE ACTUALLY AT SLANT AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO DESIGNED THE ISLANDS BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE HIGH POINT OF THE ISLANDS.

OF COURSE HE DID.

WHICH IS YES, .

UM, AND SO THERE'S A SIDE OF THE, A SIDE OF THE ISLANDS THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

IT'S ABOUT TWO FEET LOWER.

CONVERSATION WITH THE RELEVANT CONVERSATION, UH, DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NO NORMAL ANYMORE, RIGHT? LIKE WE NEVER USED TO GET FLOODING OTHER THAN DURING, UM, KING TIDES OR HURRICANE SEASON.

UM, SO THE PARK IS IN THE MIDDLE.

SO WHEREAS THE STREETS DO FLOOD AND UNDER TORRENTIAL, LIKE THE RAIN BOMB SITUATION THAT WE HAD, UM, TWO MONTHS AGO, THE PARK DID OF COURSE FLOOD AT THAT POINT.

HOWEVER, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T SEE THE PARK DOESN'T FLOOD EXCESSIVELY IN THE SAME WAY THAT SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS PORTIONS OF THE ISLAND DO.

I I WOULD STILL ENCOURAGE THE

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NOW WE GET RAIN BOMBS LIKE EVERY THREE WEEKS IT SEEMS LIKE.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ADD RESILIENCE MEASURES SOMEPLACE IN THE PARK AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, UM, RENOVATIONS, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE THE TIME TO EXPLORE THE BEST WAY TO DO.

IF IT'S NOT A SISTER, AND I'M CLEARLY NOT, UH, AN EXPERT IN AN AQUATIC ENGINEERING OF ANY SORT, BUT, UM, IF IT'S NOT A CISTERN BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, PIPES CONNECTING IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO DIFFERENT OUTFALLS, WHATEVER, LET'S, LET'S MAXIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AHEAD TO THE FUTURE.

UM, OF COURSE I'M SUPPORTIVE OF A PARK.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY VOTES AGAINST PARKS.

UM, BUT YOU DO BEG AN IMPORTANT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BOB, BECAUSE AS WE'RE BUILDING PARKS AND WE'RE DOING THIS CONSTANTLY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE RESILIENCY PORTION OF IT.

AND I KNOW THAT CANOPY PARK WAS ALL ABOUT BUILDING THESE CISTERNS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

HAVE WE? CHONG, UM, BAY SHORE PARK HAS A, A, A HEAVY RESILIENCY, UM, COMPONENT TO IT WITHOUT, WITH THE LAKE THAT'S BEING BUILT THERE.

AND SOME OF OUR PARKS, THEY ARE A LITTLE LOWER, BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF THE LIVE WITH WATER.

IF YOU'RE GONNA WANT SOMETHING TO FLOOD OR HOLD WATER, GET IT OFF THE STREETS, GET IT INTO THE PARK, WHICH ISN'T ALWAYS THE, THE THE BEST THING FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO WANT TO QUICKLY USE THE PARK, BUT IT MOVES THE WATER.

SO I GUESS MY SHORT ANSWER WITHOUT GETTING INTO ENGINEERING, WHICH I'M NOT, IS WE DO HAVE RESILIENCY EFFORTS WITHIN OUR PARKS.

UM, WE COULD, WE CAN, WE COULD EXPAND UPON THOSE OF COURSE, BUT WE DO HAVE THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS.

WE WANNA PARK QUICKLY THEN THE RESILIENCY MIGHT NOT BE THERE.

'CAUSE ONCE WE DO IT, I MEAN, SO, BUT, BUT TO AT LEAST EXPLORE IT PRIOR AND FIND OUT THE VENDOR WHO DID IT IN CANOPY PARK, WHICH IS A MUCH SMALLER PROJECT THEN, YOU KNOW, BAYSHORE PARK AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD EXPENSE IF WE DID DO IT BECAUSE WE, SO SUNSET HAD THEIR PROJECT DONE ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE FLOODING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS CAMERA ALL THE PIPES AND UH, SEE, BECAUSE IT CAN'T NOT BE WORKING.

IT PROBABLY HAS A BLOCKAGE SOMEWHERE.

SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THE RESILIENCY, BUT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

BUT IT MIGHT HOLD THINGS UP.

SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? YOU WANT THE DRAINAGE UNDERNEATH OR DO YOU WANT THE PARK? UNLESS WE COULD DO IT QUICKLY.

I MEAN, IN AN IDEAL WORLD WE WOULD DO BOTH QUICKLY.

CHAIR, CHAIR IF I MAY.

UM, AND SPEAKING TO KRISTEN, I WAS, UH, CHRIS GONZALEZ'S, UM, MEETING, I WAS AT THAT ONE WE HAD ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN, UH, MEMBERS.

HOA YES, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

THAT, UH, MEMBERS THAT OF THE SUNSET ISLANDS TO, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING ABOUT THE FLOODING AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PRO PROJECT.

I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS WAS, WAS IN ATTENDANCE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SPACE IS NOT TECHNICALLY DESIGNATED AS A PARK.

IT'S TECH, IT'S A OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW.

AND IT WAS CHANGED TO A PARK ABOUT TWO YEARS, THREE, THREE YEARS AGO, I THINK.

I I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION WITH ME.

WE ALWAYS SERVED IT AS A PARK, BUT IT OFFICIALLY BECAME A PARK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS WE, THE CITY WAS TALKING ABOUT VACANT PROVES TALKING ABOUT SELLING IT.

MAY MAYBE IF PUBLIC WORKS CAN TALK.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS JUST SOME DISCUSSION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT QUARTER OR THIRD OF THE BACKEND PERHAPS BEING USED AT, IN A FUTURE FOR A STORMWATER PUMP.

CERTAINLY NEED TO INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS ON ANY CONVERSATION.

SO, SO ALL OF THAT, I WOULD JUST BE WARY JUST TO, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL FOR DOWN THE LINE TO HELP WITH THE SEVERE FLOODING ON THE ISLAND.

THAT THAT GREEN SPACE WOULD'VE BEEN PARTIALLY UTILIZED IN SOME MANNER TOWARDS THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FITTED IN SO THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THE DESIGN SHOWED THE WHOLE SPACE BEING UTILIZED, BUT I THINK MAYBE IN CONJUNCTION DISCUSSION WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S, UH, SPACE, UH, MADE AVAILABLE FOR THAT FUTURE LOCATION.

YES, DEFINITELY.

UM, WE DO LEAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE ON THE PARK BECAUSE WE LOVE THAT OUR PARK IS BIG AND WIDE AND OPEN.

UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UTILIZE THE SPACE IN THE BEST WAY, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE POTENTIALLY COULD BE A PUMP STATION OR SOMETHING INSTALLED DOWN THE ROAD.

AND I'M GINA ROSS.

I LIVE ON SUNSET ONE.

I JUST WANNA REITERATE TWO POINTS.

UM, ONE IS WHAT COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE SAID.

THE SAFETY ISSUE IS HUGE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ONE WAY STREETS, WE HAVE A TON OF CONSTRUCTION.

THE TRUCKS GO THE WRONG WAY ON THE ONE WAY STREETS.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.

WE JUST HAD A DOG KILLED.

BUT IF YOU COME TO OUR ISLAND DURING THE DAY, IT, YOU NEVER KNOW IF THERE'S A TRUCK COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SPEED.

WE JUST GOT SOME SPEED BUMPS PUT IN SUNSET ONE.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON SUNSET TWO.

BUT THE SAFETY ISSUE IS A BIG ISSUE.

SO HAVING A WALKWAY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE BABIES AND YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE WALKING DOGS AND PEOPLE WALKING THE ISLAND AND EX AROUND THE PARK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE

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SAFETY ISSUE.

THE SECOND THING IS, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AROUND ALTON ROAD AND NORTH BAY ROAD.

A LOT OF THESE YOUNG FAMILIES ARE LANDLOCKED.

THEY CAN'T TAKE THEIR KIDS TO OTHER PARKS.

THERE'S NOTHING AROUND THE AREA.

AND THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA LEAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM TO GET BACK.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA.

THIS IS A SAFE WAY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS BEAUTIFUL SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT USABLE.

WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD EXTRA TREES HAVE PLANTED THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK.

SO THE KIDS CAN'T PLAY FIELD SPORTS BECAUSE THERE'S TREES ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

IT'S A GORGEOUS SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY USER-FRIENDLY FOR ALL THESE FAMILIES.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS.

THANKS .

UM, JOB'S NOT, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A LOT OF SUPPORT HERE, BUT YOUR JOB'S NOT OVER.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK AND, UH, CONTINUE PUTTING YOURSELF FRONT AND CENTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRIORITIZE THIS FOR THIS, UH, THIS AGENDA CYCLE CHAIR.

IF THAT'S, YEAH.

REAL QUICK, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING LEGISLATIVELY FOR US TO ACCEPT ESSENTIALLY THEIR SURVEYS OR ANY OF THE TYPE OF WORK THAT WE, UH, THAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLICATE.

OH, NO, I CAN WORK WITH THEM.

EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT.

IF I MAY, I THINK THAT THE QUESTION IS, IS, UM, NOR NORMALLY, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, WHEN THERE'S A NEW CIP PROJECT BEING ADDED, UH, IT GETS ADDED IN THE FIFTH YEAR.

AND IF THAT'S THE, UH, AND HEARING, UH, THE DISCUSSION HERE IS, IS THE RECOMMENDATION GONNA BE FAVORABLE FOR THIS NEW COMPLETELY NEW CAPITAL PROJECT TO BE ADDED TO OUR CIP, WHICH WOULD BE ADDED THE FIFTH YEAR, WHICH THIS, THIS COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED BEFORE, OR TO BE PUSHED TO THE FRONT OF THE LIST AND BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS? I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, THE LATTER TO PRIORITIZE THIS FOR THE 26TH BUDGET.

SO THEN HEARING THAT THEN THE, THE, IT WOULD RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO FUND A NEW CAPITAL PROJECT PARK ON SUNSET ISLAND TWO, AND TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS.

SO I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND MOVE.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

OH, SORRY.

I THINK I HAD, UH, CHAIR MAGAZINE.

I THINK, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

PASS THIS THREE TO NOTHING.

UH, THE SPECIAL TAXING AND, UH, SECURITY DISTRICTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK AND THE INITIATIVES YOU MADE OUR JOBS INFINITELY EASIER.

AND JOHN, THANK YOU FOR WORKING SO INTIMATELY WITH THEM.

ALRIGHT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

LET'S, UH, CONTINUE ON THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEMES.

UM, I, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME GREAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE FOR NB 31 AND 32,

[NB 31. DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO FUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY FEATURES IN THE BAYSHORE AND NORTH BAY ROAD NEIGHBORHOODS.]

OKAY, THANK YOU.

LET ME READ THE, READ THEM IN.

UH, MB 31 DISCUSSED POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO FUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY FEATURES IN THE BAY SHORE AND NORTH BAY ROAD, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.

MB 31, MB 32

[NB 32. DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO FUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF GUARD GATES AND/OR IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER SECURITY FEATURES IN VENETIAN ISLANDS.]

DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO FUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF GUARD, GUARD, GATES AND OR IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER SECURITY FEATURES IN VENET ISLANDS, MB 32.

AND ADAM AND JOANNA, I, I LIKE, IF THE PUBLIC, UH, TAKES THEIR TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO COME HERE, I, I'LL ALWAYS, UH, ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WANNA COME UP, SPEAK PUBLICLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONERS, UM, CREATION OF THE NEW, UH, SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS AT BAY SHORE, NORTH BAY ROAD AND VENETIA ISLAND NEIGHBORHOODS WITH, WITH GUARD GATES AND ADDITIONAL SECURITY FEATURES.

FACILITIES CURRENTLY OVERSEES FOR SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS.

ALLISON ISLAND, UH, BISCAY BAY, BISCAYNE POINT, AND NORMANDY SHORES SERVICES AT EACH LOCATION, UM, ARE BASED UPON THE, UH, RESIDENTS REQUIREMENTS.

OUR, UM, OWN CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE HAS BEEN LEADING THE EFFORT, UM, IN SUPPORTING THESE AREAS.

AND, AND WE KNOW TO DATE THAT A SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UM, FOR NORTH BAY, UH, WHERE THEY DID RECEIVE MORE THAN 10% OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, RESPONDING FAVORABLY.

UH, SO THE NEXT STEP FOR THEM IS TO MOVE TOWARD A PETITION PACKAGE AND POTENTIALLY AN ORDINANCE SUBMISSION.

WANNA WEIGH IN OR, YEAH, THIS IS MY ITEM.

BELIEVE, AT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, OVERWHELMING, UM, RESIDENT INPUT AND SUPPORT.

UM, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT CAR THEFTS, A LOT OF SECURITY ISSUES, I BELIEVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS AT A, AN EVENT ON, ON NORTH BAY ROAD AND ONE OF THE ONE, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS WITH US HAD HIS CAR STOLEN WHILE I WAS THERE.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER, YOU WERE THERE AS WELL.

UM, IT, IT'S A CONCERN AND IT'S A, IT'S A MAGNET FOR, FOR BAD ACTORS TO, TO, TO BASICALLY, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LOWER MIDDLE AND UPPER NORTH BAY ROAD.

UM, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION AT, I

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UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS TO GIVE AN ENHANCED SECURITY TO THE AREA.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE'RE, WE'RE , WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE EXPECTED TO BE LIKE HOUDINI, RIGHT? AND JUST COME UP WITH ALL THESE IDEAS TO SOLVE CRIME, PUBLIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC.

AND, UM, AND, AND WE, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST.

YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY TRY TO LEAN ON, UH, THE POLICE TO, TO, TO DO THEIR JOB, UH, EFFECTIVELY AND IN A MORE PROACTIVE MANNER.

UM, BUT THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.

AND I, I THINK GIVING THE RESIDENTS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS, IS IT IT WHERE THE CRIME HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED, AT LEAST IN CAR THEFT AND BURGLARIES.

UM, GIVE THEM A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS, I THINK IS THE RIGHT THING.

I MEAN, MIAMI-DADE HAS O OVER A THOUSAND OF THESE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS.

AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT UP TO US TO DECIDE THAT IT'S REALLY UP TO THE RESIDENTS OF, OF, OF THE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT AND IF THEY WANNA APPROVE IT OR NOT.

SO US HERE, MYSELF, WE'RE JUST HERE TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS.

AND, AND WHERE I STAND, UM, UM, COGNIZANT, WE'VE HAD ITEMS ON FOR THE PAST YEAR, UH, EVEN GOING FURTHER, UH, ON SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THESE AREAS.

NORTH BAY ROAD, VENETIAN ISLANDS, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET KILLED.

UH, TRULY, TRULY, THEY ARE.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN EITHER ROBBED AT GUNPOINT IN THEIR HOMES OR PEOPLE'S SECURITY HAVE PULLED GUNS ON INTRUDERS.

AND THIS IS A RECURRING THEME.

UM, SO I CAN'T COMMIT TO WHAT THAT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE.

ME SPECIFICALLY.

I, I THINK I'D PREFER TO GO THE ANGLE OF THE LOWER HANGING FRUIT FIRST, WHERE WE GET ROVING SECURITY, UM, CREWS THAT ARE SELF-FUNDED THROUGH THIS TAXING DISTRICT, UH, TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THE, UM, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GATES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS AND PROBABLY A, A MORE PROLONGED DISCUSSION.

BUT I THINK THIS IS TO JUST FACILITATE THE PROCESS OF, UH, GETTING THOSE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS, UH, UP RUNNING AND MOVING IF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, AND THOSE COMMUNITIES WANT.

SO I THINK WE'RE JUST HERE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.

TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT ANY INPUT WHATSOEVER.

ADAM? DONE.

I WONDER, PLEASE, DO I HAVE A TIME LIMIT OR, UH, REASON REASONABLE? REASONABLE, OKAY.

YES, I CAN TALK VERY CONCERNED.

UH, I, I TRY TO BE, UM, MY NAME IS ADAM KRAVITZ.

UH, I LIVE ON 29 82 ALTON ROAD.

UM, AND THAT ADDRESS ACTUALLY HAS A PARTICULAR, UM, RESIDENCE TO THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH QUITE HONESTLY WOULD BE NICE IF I WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHAT THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL WAS.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN MENTION OF, OF GUARD GATES AND, UH, THOSE GUARD GATES WOULD EFFECTIVELY RENDER THE, UH, STRETCH OF ALTON ROAD FROM 29TH, UH, OR 27TH NORTH, ALTHOUGH LOWER ALTON ROAD.

IT'S NOT EVEN, UH, OLD ALTON ROAD, MEANING THE, THE, IT'S NOT EVEN CLEAR HOW THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

UM, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THESE GATES, MEANING THOSE OF US ON THE OUTSIDE, UNABLE, LITERALLY UNABLE TO ACCESS OUR OWN DRIVEWAYS, WOULD SEEM TO ME TO MAKE THIS PLAN A NON-STARTER.

AND ANY SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH THAT FAILS TO TAKE IN THE TRAFFIC EFFECT OR THE ACCESSIBILITY EFFECT, UM, ON THOSE HOUSES, AND THE DIMINUTION OF VALUE MAY BE TO NOTHING OF THOSE HOUSES IF WE CAN'T ACTUALLY ACCESS THEM FROM CERTAIN DIRECTIONS, UH, WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE INCREDIBLY LEGALLY SUSPECT.

UM, I NOTE THAT IN THE MIAMI-DADE CODE, THE CREATION OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS REQUIRES FOR GATING A TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND THIS IS NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND THIS, I THINK IS KIND OF MY POINT.

SO I'M GONNA GONNA CIRCLE BACK.

THE PROCESS OF CREATING A SPECIAL DISTRICT SHOULD COME FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD PROCESS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PUTS TOGETHER A PLAN, AS WE JUST SAW, USING THEIR OWN MONEY AND THEIR OWN, UH, IDEAS, AND THEN PRESENTS THAT PLAN TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO APPROVE IT.

OKAY? WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS CITY RESOURCES.

MY TAX DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON A PLAN THAT IS DETRIMENTAL

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I'VE CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY BY EMAIL, ON AN EMAIL AND SAID, THIS IS A RIGHT TO RESIDENT'S, RIGHT TO NO ITEM.

CERTAINLY IT AFFECTS ME AND I GET NO RESPONSE.

OKAY? UM, SO THE ISSUE IS, IS FIRST OF ALL, WHETHER THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS ARE BEING SURVEYED AND WHETHER THEY KNOW THE CITY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUPPOSED TO CONDUCT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND IF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS SUSPECT OR DOESN'T SHOW THAT THE GATE SHOULD BE PUT UP, THEN THE COMMISSION SHOULD NOT BE VOTING FOR THAT.

BUT IT'S NOT FOR THE CITY TO COME UP AND CITY STAFF TO CONDUCT SURVEYS AND CITY STAFF TO SPEND CITY MONEY TO CREATE A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR A SELECT GROUP, GROUP OF RESIDENTS.

I ALSO WANT TO QUESTION THE DATA, OKAY? BECAUSE I WAS AT THE POLICE COMMISSION MEETING, AND, YOU KNOW, THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF A PARTICULAR CAR THEFT IS, IS ABSURD.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT ON ALTON ROAD WE DON'T HAVE CAR THEFTS? ARE YOU SAYING THAT ON ALTON ROAD WE DON'T HAVE BREAK-INS? THAT THE CRIME MAGICALLY GOES FROM BAYSHORE TO NORTH BAY AND BACK AGAIN WITHOUT JUMPING OVER OUR, OUR STREET? IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IN FACT, AT THE POLICE MEETING, AND ACTUALLY, UM, UH, THE ASSISTANT DEPUTY IS HERE.

I SPOKE WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH-END CAR THEFTS, MOST OF WHICH OCCUR BECAUSE PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR FOBS IN THEIR CARS.

AND I WAS ACTUALLY INCREDULOUS AT THIS.

WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND THERE, AND THE POLICE COMMITTEE WAS TOLD UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM, NOT THAT WE SHOULD VICTIM BLAME HERE, BUT THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A PROBLEM.

BUT WHAT HE WAS ALSO VERY CLEAR IN THE MAPPING OF THOSE THEFTS SHOW IS THAT IT'S NOT A LOWER NORTH BAY ROAD PROBLEM.

THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

OUT OF THE 59 DOTS ON THE MAP, FOUR OF THEM WERE ON LOWER NORTH BAY ROAD.

IT'S A CITYWIDE PROBLEM.

IN FACT, IT'S A COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM.

SO CARS GET STOLEN ON ALTON ROAD, CARS GET STOLEN IN BAYSHORE, CARS GET STOLEN IN LAKEVIEW.

IN FACT, THE STING OPERATION TOOK PLACE IN ON, ON PINE TREE AND 50TH TO, SO TO SAY THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE SPENDING RESOURCES ON A VERY WELL OFF STREET THAT HAS FOR 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, TRIED TO BLOCK ITSELF OFF, OKAY? AND BEEN DEFEATED AT EVERY TURN BECAUSE IN REALITY, IT SHOULD BE CHARACTERIZED AS AN ALTERNATE ROUTE IN A THROUGH STREET IS, IS AGAIN, RIDICULOUS.

THERE'S ONE OTHER THING.

AND ADD, IF, IF I COULD JUST RESPOND THERE, UH, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, WHAT I KNOW MY INTENT IS, IS TO ACTUALLY PREVENT MORE CITY RESOURCES FROM BEING EXPENDED THERE.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY, I DON'T MEAN TO MISQUOTE THIS, BUT PUSHING THE BURDEN ONTO THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE IF THEY WANT ENHANCED SECURITY, INSTEAD OF US HAVING POLICE THAT ARE JUST STATIONED THERE 24 7 BECAUSE OF THE, UH, LARGE DEGREE OF HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS THERE, KIND OF SHIFTING THAT FINANCIAL BURDEN ONTO THE RESIDENTS, TRUST ME, I GET PLENTY OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTS THERE.

THEY GO, LOOK AT MY TAX BILL.

HOW DO WE NOT HAVE POLICE HERE 24 7? AND I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE EXPENDING SIGNIFICANT CITY RESOURCES ON PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

IN FACT, IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME TO US AND SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, HERE ARE ALL THESE INCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

AND WE SAID THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS IS TO ESSENTIALLY TAKE INITIATIVE ON YOURSELVES.

AND WE ARE JUST, THIS ISN'T A VOTE FOR WHAT THAT AREA'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE GUARD GATES OR NOT.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST HELPING FACILITATE THE RESIDENTS VOTING FOR, POTENTIALLY VOTING FOR THEIR OWN SELF-ASSESSED DISTRICT.

AND, AND IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND, AND LOOK, ADAM, THIS IS NOT ME TRYING TO PLACATE A COUPLE WEALTHY OWNERS ON THERE.

I REALLY, I, I, I HAVE, I I'VE, I HAVEN'T TAKEN A, UM, A DOLLAR FROM DEVELOPERS WHEN I CAMPAIGN.

I FUNDED MY OWN CAMPAIGN.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR MONEY OR FAVORS.

THESE ARE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME TO ME FOR HELP AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.

AND IF, IF THERE IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FOR THEM TO VOTE FOR THEM TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES, I'M NOT GONNA GET IN THE WAY OF THAT.

I'M GONNA DO MY JOB AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO, TO, TO HELP THEM.

NOW, I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND DISCUSS WITH YOU ON A MAP ON, ON HOW THIS ISN'T GONNA REALLY AFFECT YOU.

OKAY? EVEN IF THERE ARE GUARD GATES, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE EVERYONE'S SITUATION MUCH BETTER AND, AND, AND MORE EYES ON THE STREET.

I, I, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE, WHY THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

WELL, FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THAT? 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP SOME, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION WHILE IT'S FRESH.

FIRST OF ALL, DE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

WELL, ADAM, I JUST, IF I MAY JUST HAVE A QUESTION, IS I WANTED TO

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UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, UM, AS IT RELATES TO NORTH BAY ROAD, THE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.

IS IT TO PUT GUARD GATES FOR NORTH BAY ROAD, OR IS IT TO ESTABLISH A SECURITY GUARD, UH, TAXING DISTRICT? IT'S WHAT'S, WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT OVER THERE.

IT'S NOT UP TO US.

IT'S GONNA BE WHAT THE HOA DECIDES.

UN UN UNDERSTOOD.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE, AS A, AS A GOVERNING BODY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ROADS, THEY'RE, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S, IT'S A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO SELF-FUND ROVING SECURITY GUARDS, I'M OPEN TO THAT.

AND I, AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAUSES A LESSER OF AN IMPACT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT THAT CLOSES THE AREA, RIGHT? ABUTTING ALTO ROAD.

THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF IMPACT THAT'S GONNA HAVE A CONSEQUENTIAL, UH, IMPACT ON, ON ALTO ROAD, ESPECIALLY ON ALTO ROAD.

WERE TO THE EAST, YOU'RE LANDLOCKED WITH THE GOLF COURSE.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING JUST TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DETERMINE, OKAY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GONNA ULTIMATELY SEND TO, TO THE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA TO BALLOT? IS IT GONNA BE A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR, FOR SECURITY GUARDS, OR IS IT GONNA BE A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR, UM, FOR, FOR GATES? SO I, UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

IT'S REALLY UP TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, WHAT THEY WANT TO PUSH FORWARD, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE ONES REQUIRED TO GET A PETITION AND, AND, AND START THE PROCESS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ME THAT'S GONNA GO AROUND COLLECTING SIGNATURES.

IT'S GONNA BE, UM, A, A SORT OF A CHAMPION IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, IT'S GOING TO ALSO DEPEND ON, UM, IT'S A, IT'S AN, IT'S AN OPTION.

IT'S AN OPTION.

EITHER THEY WANT ROVING SECURITY, IF THEY WANT CAR GATES OR ALL, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

UM, I ALSO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE A TOWN HALL FOR BAYSHORE, NORTH BAY ROAD AND VENETIAN ISLANDS, I THINK ON MAY 13TH AND 14TH, WHERE I'VE INVITED EVERYONE TO COME OUT.

AND I WANT TO HEAR, I WANT TO HEAR THE, THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION AND, AND SEE WHERE IT LANDS.

THIS IS GONNA BE A SORT OF A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.

UM, THIS, THIS IS NOT EVEN ANYWHERE NEAR BEING COOKED.

UM, AND SO, YEAH, I, I, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK.

JUST HAVING SEEN THESE GO THROUGH THE COUNTY MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND, BUT THE COUNTY HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS THAT DISPLAYS THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

UH, AND WHICH IS THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE HERE, IF, IF IT'S A, UM, IF IT'S, UM, A, A GUARD GATE, UH, SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AS, AS IT RELATES TO, TO THIS AREA AS A VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE HERE.

YOUR, YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE THE BAY, ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE THE GOLF COURSE.

SO YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A GRID.

SO AS IT RELATES TO NORTH BAY ROAD, IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO A GATE.

I WILL BE VERY OPEN-MINDED AND VERY SUPPORTIVE.

IF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SELL SELF ASSESS FOR SECURITY GUARDS, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT.

UH, BUT AS IT RELATES TO GATES, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANNA BE CLEAR ON WHERE I STAND ON THAT.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

AND, AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I, I WANNA LET, JUST LET THE PROCESS SURE.

UH, MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO SPEAK.

I, IT'S A SUNSHINE MEETING, OBVIOUSLY, I INVITE EVERYONE TO COME AND, AND, AND HEAR EVERYONE OUT.

SO, YEAH.

AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

UH, LISTEN, I'M GOING TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS.

UH, BUT I SAID THIS AT THE, UH, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS WELL, WHERE I THINK WE TAKE CARE OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

IF THE RESIDENTS, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS DO VOTE TO SELF-ASSESS, WE START WITH ENHANCED TECHNOLOGY.

WE START WITH, UH, ROVING SECURITY GUARDS.

UM, BUT WHEN WE START GETTING THE DIVERTING FLOWS OF TRAFFIC THROUGH MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WHETHER IT BE HERE, PINE TREE DRIVE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M CO-SIGNING AT THE MOMENT.

BUT, BUT, BUT LET ME SAY ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO, TO ADDRESS BECAUSE, AND WHAT I'M A LITTLE BIT INCREDULOUS ABOUT, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IS YOU SAY IT'S UP TO THE RESIDENTS, YET I HEAR THAT YOU, YOU SEEM UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO SAY WHAT THE PLAN ACTUALLY IS, YET THERE WAS A SURVEY TAKEN, THE 10% APPROVED, WHO TOOK, WHO TOOK THE SURVEY? HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

IF I MAY

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CLARIFY THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UM, AS A VERY FIRST STEP, FOR ANY COMMUNITY TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES AS SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT, THEY HAVE TO GET A LETTER OF INTENT.

THEY NEED TO FIND AT LEAST 10% OF THE RESIDENTS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

SO THIS SURVEY CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO THE NEXT STEP IS TO ESTABLISH A PETITION PACKAGE.

AND WHAT DID ADAM ACTUALLY SAY? AND ADAM, IF, IF I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, I LIKE, WHEN I ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THIS, I GAVE THE FULL OPTION SET.

I MEAN, I SHOWED WHERE IF THEY, IF THEY DID WANT TO USE GUARD GATES, UM, THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD BE.

AND I ALSO SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

YOU CAN ALSO HAVE JUST ROVING SECURITY, OR YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE ABOVE.

AND SO IT'S, I I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY ONLY DO ROVING SECURITY GUARDS AND THEN DO A GOTCHA AT THE LAST MINUTE SAYING, OH, WE CAN ALSO DO GUARD GATES.

I KIND OF WANT TO JUST GIVE THE FULL OPTIONS AND HERE WHAT THE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAVE TO SAY.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE A LONG PROCESS.

THIS IS WHY YOU'RE HERE.

THIS IS WHY YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A DECISION MADE ANYTIME SOON.

UM, AND SO I'M HERE.

UH, LOOK, I'M, I'M INTERESTED, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE VERY MUCH AGAINST IT.

I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY MUCH IN, IN FAVOR OF IT.

UM, I, ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE OFF OF NORTH BAY ROAD IN FAVOR OF WHAT? OR THE ACTUAL, UM, SORRY, , SORRY.

I, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, ANY, ANY SORT OF RELIEF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE ASKING FOR REAL RELIEF IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S NOT JUST OBVIOUSLY NORTH BAY ROAD.

I ALSO HAVE ONE FOR VENETIAN ISLANDS, UM, AND, AND BAYSHORE.

AND SO, UM, IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON, ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

AND LISTEN, IF, IF THERE'S NOT SUPPORT UP HERE FOR IT, THEN THAT'S FINE.

I I, I, I CAN ONLY DO WHAT I CAN DO.

UM, BUT LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK THE DISCUSSION ENDS HERE.

I THINK WE JUST CONTINUED ALONG.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE MANY STEPS TO THIS AND, AND LOOK, I, I'M, I GENERALLY WANNA HEAR WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.

OKAY, LET ME, LET ME JUST ADDRESS THE FEW POINTS.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I, ONE POINT, I JUST WANNA, WHEN I KIND OF LIKE TO WEIGH IN A MOMENT, PLEASE.

SO THE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS, UH, MADE THE MOST PROGRESS TOWARD THE CREATION OF, OF A DISTRICT IS, IS, UH, IS I THINK UPPER NORTH BAY ROAD.

I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S, IT'S THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S THE GROUP THAT HAS SUBMITTED 10%.

UH, IT'S A MIDDLE NORTH BAY ROAD MI SORRY, MIDDLE, MIDDLE, NORTH BAY ROAD IS IN THE, IN THE FORTIES.

SO THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS SUBMITTED THE INITIAL LETTER OF INTENT TO, TO THE COUNTY.

IN THE CITY, WE HAVE 32 LICENSE PLAY READERS.

AND BY THE WAY, NO HELP TO ME.

I DON'T EVEN, I, I SAW THAT EMAIL COME IN.

I WAS LIKE, OH, WOW, OKAY.

THEY ALREADY STARTED.

SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I REPRESENT LAW AS, AS PRESIDENT OF THE ALTON ROAD HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I REPRESENT ALL OF ALTON ROAD.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON ALTON THAT HAVE OBJECTED.

I MEAN, I MEAN, IT GOES BACK TO, TO WHAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS ABOUT COMMISSIONER SUAREZ'S COMMENT.

HE SAYS DEMOCRACY, BUT IT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE VOTING UNIVERSE? OKAY? IF THE VOTING UNIVERSE IS ONLY PEOPLE ON NORTH BAY ROAD, WELL, AND ALL, WELL, WELL, LET ME, I GET ON THE SPECIAL TAX, I'M SORRY, I GET ON THE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT, BUT WHAT I DON'T GET IS THAT IF THE, THE CREATION OF GATES ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN A TAKING OF A VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AND I'M A LAWYER, OKAY, THEN, THEN THAT SHOULD JUST BE A NO GO TO SIT THERE AND SAY, BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF NORTH BAY ROAD WANT SOMETHING OR PETITION FOR IT IN A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT.

I MEAN, THEY CAN PETITION FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT AND, AND, AND THERE'S GONNA BE A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS FOR THAT, RIGHT? SO YES, IT IS THE RESIDENCE OF NORTH BAY ROAD THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THEIR SELF TAXING DISTRICT.

BUT ANY TYPE OF THING THAT IS PUT FORWARD HAS TO GO BACK TO OUR FULL COMMISSION, WHICH IS OF COURSE GOING TO, SO I DON'T WANNA PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

THIS IS JUST THE ESTABLISHED, THE SELF TAXING DISTRICTS.

WE'RE IN NO WAY CO-SIGNING FOR, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT.

LET, LET ME HAND THIS OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES.

COMMISSIONER BOTT, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING THEN? COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ, GO AHEAD.

SO HERE'S WHAT I THINK, AND I, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE I ALSO LIVE ON ALTON ROAD.

UM, I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE YET IS LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I ACTUALLY HAVE AN ITEM COMING FORWARD, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT BEST.

WE'RE THINKING ROVING SECURITY GUARDS.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE.

WE NEED TO PUT IN LICENSE PLATE READERS LIKE THEY HAVE ON THE VENETIANS.

WE NEED TO INSTALL CAMERAS, WE NEED TO CONNECT THOSE CAMERAS TO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO OFFER THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I'M WORKING ON AN ITEM RIGHT NOW THAT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO CO-SPONSOR, BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS, WE COULD DO THIS QUICKLY, EFFICIENTLY, CHEAPLY, AND FRANKLY, UM, SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY PROGRAM THOSE LPRS RIGHT NOW

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DID YOU KNOW THAT THE VENETIAN ISLANDS, THEY ORGANIZE THEMSELVES.

JUST LISTEN TO THIS.

12 OF OUR LPRS CONNECTED TO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER HAPPEN TO COME FROM THE VENETIAN ISLANDS.

SO IF WE ROLL THESE OUT IN ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I WOULD LOVE EVERYBODY TO WORK ON THIS WITH ME, IF WE ROLL OUT THE LPRS AND WE PROGRAM THEM SO THAT WHEN THEY SEE SOMEBODY KIND OF CRUISING A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY GET AN ALARM, WE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF THESE CRIME ISSUES USING TECHNOLOGIES, USING CAMERAS, LEVERAGING THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THE CLOSURE IS CONTROVERSIAL AND IS YEARS AWAY, RIGHT? AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, LET'S HAVE ROVING SECURITY GUARDS.

WELL, WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT.

WE HAVE TREMENDOUS TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE NOT LEVERAGING.

AND I HAVE A PLAN, IT'S CALLED MY SECURITY AND SAFETY PLAN, , IT'S TRUE KRISTEN'S SECURITY AND SAFETY PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE A LOT OF THIS BY BEING FORWARD THINKING INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A ROVING SECURITY GUARD, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE NEED WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY USE, AND SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS MIGHT FIND THIS CREEPY TO, YOU KNOW, TO INSTALL CAMERAS AND LPRS, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS AND WE CAN DO IT.

AND I THINK THAT AS A TEAM, WE CAN DO IT EFFICIENTLY, CHEAPLY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PITCH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO PITCH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SPONSORING RIGHT NOW WITH MY LEGISLATIVE HOLD, RICK .

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WAS MENTIONED, UH, AS PART OF THIS, I SPECIFICALLY SAID ENHANCED TECHNOLOGY AND ROVING SECURITY, SO MM-HMM .

SO COMMISSIONER BOT AND THEN COMMISSIONER COURSE, UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF MORGA, CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR A SEC? GET THE JOB, MA .

OF 2023, OF WHICH 52 OF THEM HAD KEY FOBS LEFT INSIDE THE VEHICLE.

I PROBABLY FEEL UNDER THE BUS.

NO, NO, NO.

I MEAN, IT'S A CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR MONTHS.

UM, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT YOUR TITLE WRONG, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I AM WITH CHARLES.

NO.

GOOD.

YOU'RE ROYAL HIGHNESS MORGA.

NO, NO.

I'M, I'M A HUMBLE SERVANT OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, ASSISTANT CHIEF DANIEL MORGA ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT TWO THINGS.

ONE IS TRAFFIC CONTROL AND MITIGATION.

UM, PART OF WHICH IS EXACERBATED BY THE UNHOLY, UM, CONSTRUCTION AT 3 95.

AND ALL THE CHAOS THAT HAS NOW TURNED ALL OF MIAMI BEACH INTO A THROUGH ROUTE TO, FOR PEOPLE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

UM, I'M GONNA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR NOW.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR, SINCE WE'VE ALL BEEN ELECTED AND, UM, CONSISTENTLY IS THAT CAR THEFTS ARE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.

THEY'RE GETTING LOWER.

UM, WHAT I, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND I I WANNA ASK THIS SPECIFIC QUE UH, QUESTION IN A MINUTE, BUT I DO WANNA GET THIS ENTIRE THREAD ONTO THE RECORD.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, CAR THEFTS HAVE DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND SOME MONTHS WITH A CAMPAIGN PUT FORTH BY THE MIAMI BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT LOCKING YOUR VEHICLES, LOCKING YOUR HOMES, NOT LEAVING YOUR FOBS IN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A LATE MODEL CAR WHERE THE LITTLE, UM, SIDE VIEW MIRRORS FOLD IN THE LITTLE EARS, AS I CALL THEM, THE HIGHLY TECHNICAL TERM, FOLD IN OR DON'T, DEPENDING ON, UM, WHERE YOUR KEY FOB IS OR WHETHER YOUR KEY IS, IS YOUR CAR IS LOCKED OR NOT.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT POINT SPECIFICALLY? AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

SO I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPARISON OF WHERE OUR NUMBERS ARE NOW TO PREVIOUS NUMBERS.

WE DID LOOK AT AUTO THEFTS MOST RECENTLY, UM, BASED ON A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT THE KRAVITZ FOLKS PUT IN.

UM, AND WE WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO DECEMBER OF 2023, FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON THE, THE SENTIMENT RELATED TO THE HIGH-END VEHICLE THEFTS.

UM, AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT SEPARATES FROM OUR OVERALL AUTO THEFTS.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WITH THOSE IS THAT THAT'S PART OF AN ORGANIZED RING OF THIEVES.

IT IS NOT A MIAMI BEACH PROBLEM, IT IS NOT A MIAMI-DADE PROBLEM.

IT IS A MIAMI TRI-COUNTY AREA, FLORIDA NATIONAL PROBLEM.

AND THESE GROUPS, WHAT WE FOUND THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS IS THEY COMMUNICATE THROUGH TELEGRAM AND OTHER, UM, ILLICIT MEANS, AND THE BROKERS PUT OUT REQUESTS FOR CERTAIN HIGH-END VEHICLES, AND THEN YOUNG, MOSTLY JUVENILES WILL GO OUT IN ANOTHER STOLEN VEHICLE LOOKING TO STEAL A VEHICLE.

MIAMI BEACH, BECAUSE OF THE PREVALENCE OF THESE HIGH-END VEHICLES IN OUR CITY, IS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY COME TO TO TAKE CARS.

SO ISOLATING THOSE SPECIFIC TYPE OF VEHICLES RELATED TO THAT BROADER TYPE OF CRIME, WE FOUND 59, UM, HIGH END AUTO THEFTS GOING BACK TO DECEMBER

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SO WHAT WE EMBARKED ON OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST, PROBABLY THE LAST YEAR, IS PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGING, ASKING PEOPLE TO REMOVE THEIR KEY FOBS OUTTA THE VEHICLE.

WE JUST COMPLETED, UM, AN EXTENSIVE OPERATION CALLED OPERATION TOURNIQUETS, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THAT BOTH WITH UNIFORM PATROLS, UNDERCOVER OFFICERS.

AND WE CONDUCTED STINGS WITHIN, UM, THE MID BEACH AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT OUT A HIGH-END VEHICLE AND CONDUCTED A SURVEILLANCE ON THAT VEHICLE.

AND AT ONE POINT, A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS TRIED TO STEAL THAT VEHICLE.

UM, LONG STORY SHORT, SINCE WE DID THAT STING, WE HAVEN'T HAD A, ANOTHER HIGH-END VEHICLE THEFT UNTIL LAST NIGHT WHERE THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AND THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL STEALING THAT VEHICLE BECAUSE THE CAR WAS LOCKED.

WERE NOT, THE STING WAS ON PINE TREE, THE STING WAS ON, I BELIEVE THE 5,700 BLOCK OF PINE TREE IS WHERE WE ENDED UP DOING THE, THAT STING.

BUT WE'RE MOVING VEHICLES AND WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THE MESSAGE THAT IT SENT WITHIN THAT ILLICIT GROUP WHERE THEY COMMUNICATE BASED ON THE LACK OF ADDITIONAL ATTEMPTS UNTIL LAST NIGHT, IS MIAMI BEACH IS ACTUALLY PROACTIVELY GOING OUT AND TRYING TO PREVENT THIS.

AND WE'RE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE AGENCIES ONLY AGENCIES THAT'S GOING OUT AND TRYING TO PROACTIVELY PREVENT.

SO MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, VERY USEFUL INFORMATION.

AND NO ONE IS TRYING TO VICTIM BLAME, UM, AT ALL.

BUT 50, YOU SAID 52 OUT OF THE 57, 52 OUTTA THE 59, 52 OUTTA 59, 88 0.14% HAD CHANGED.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE COMING FROM SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOCK YOUR KEYS, BUT, BUT HERE YOU DO.

SO, UM, THIS IS NOT LAYING THIS AT THE FEET OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOTTEN NOT AT ALL THEIR PROPERTY STOLEN.

THAT'S NOT THE THING.

BUT AS WE EDUCATE AND LEARN AND SHARE, THAT IS, THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, OF THOSE 59, UM, HOW DOES DISPERSED ARE THOSE LOCATIONS? YOU HAD DOTS, I THINK YOU SAID THERE WERE FOUR RIGHT IN THIS AREA.

SO WHERE ARE THE OTHER 50 PLUS? ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT PRIMARILY THE CONCENTRATION IS IN THE MID BEACH AREA.

SO NORTH OF DADE BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF 63RD STREET, THERE ARE SOME ISOLATED ONES ON PARKVIEW ISLAND, AND I'M SORRY, NOT PARKVIEW ISLAND.

STILLWATER ISLAND IN NORTH BEACH, SOME OTHER AREAS IN NORTH BEACH.

BUT PRIMARILY THEY TRY TO STAY IN THAT MID BEACH AREA BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THEM QUICK ACCESS TO EGRESS OFF THE BEACH, EITHER THROUGH THE TOTAL OF VENETIAN OR ANOTHER CAUSEWAY.

IS, IS DOING, LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS FAST, IT'S EQUITABLE.

SO, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, UM, AGAIN, ON THE RECORD, I AM VERY PRO MAKING EVERYBODY FEEL SAFE AND SOUND IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN THEIR HOMES, UM, WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.

I'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS ON CERTAIN STREETS, PARTICULARLY NORTH BAY, UM, AT, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY.

IT'S, IT'S ABSURD.

UM, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THIS NOTION IF RESIDENTS COME TO US AND SAY, WE WANT TO DO THIS.

THIS IS US ORGANIZING, LIKE THE FOLKS AT THE PARK JUST DID.

UM, WE HAVE A PLAN.

WE HAVE A BUY-IN FROM THE MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANNA FUND IT, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO I'M NOT GONNA STAND IN THE WAY OF THAT.

I AM CONCERNED WITH THIS NOTION OF LET'S, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PRIVATIZE A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE TREMENDOUS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST BEYOND THE BORDERS.

UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE BAYSHORE, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT NEXT, UM, THAT ARE MORE MIXED IN INCOME THAN PERHAPS SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WHERE THEY, PEOPLE CAN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD AN EXTRA SELF TAXING, UM, FEE.

I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY AN INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE MIAMI BEACH.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO HAMMER OUT AMONGST THEMSELVES.

BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT ANYBODY WHO'S LIVING BEYOND THE BORDERS OF WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS PRIVATIZED NOW GETS TRAFFIC PUSHED ONTO THEIR STREET.

SO WE'RE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, WE'RE JUST MOVING IT.

AND SECOND OF ALL, UM, WHILE THOSE HOMES AND POSSESSIONS MIGHT BE RENDERED SAFER, BECAUSE IT'S HARDER FOR THE BAD GUYS TO GET THERE, THE PERIMETER OUTSIDE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IS RECEIVING THE BRUNT.

SO I, I WORRY ABOUT, AND I'M NOT SAYING NO TO SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS WANT TO HAVE IF THEY COME TO US WITH A PLAN, BUT JUST FOR US TO SAY, LET'S DO THIS AND, AND BE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PUSHING THIS ONTO NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WITHOUT REALLY CONCRETE IDEAS OF HOW TO DO THIS IN EFFICIENTLY AND EQUITABLY IS CONCERNING TO ME.

SO, UM, SOLUTIONS A THOUSAND PERCENT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THESE ARE THE, THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE YET.

I I'M VERY INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT MY COLLEAGUE CHRIS ROSE GONZALEZ

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UM, IT SERVES EVERYBODY.

IT TIES INTO A REAL TIME CRIME SCENE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A DRONE THAT CAN BE UP IN THE AIR IN TWO SECONDS AT THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT SOUNDS EXTREMELY PROMISING FOR A LOT OF THE ISSUES.

IT WON'T SOLVE TRAFFIC, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THIS AT THIS TIME.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND, UH, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE NAME OF THIS BE TO FUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ENHANCED SECURITY MEASURES IN, IN THESE AREAS? 'CAUSE I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DRAWN UP WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU, DAVE? UM, WHAT, YEAH.

I MEAN, UH, I THINK WE PUT THAT IN THERE IN CA IN THE EVENT THAT IT WAS GONNA HAVE GUARD GATES.

SO, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, FOR NOW, THIS IS A, THIS IS, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

UM, SO IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD PROPOSES.

AND, AND IN FACT, THE COUNTY RESPONDED THIS MORNING TO THE, TO THE MIDDLE NORTH BAY ROAD RESIDENTS TO ASK, ARE YOU ASKING FOR ROVING SECURITY OR GUARD GATES? SO IT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND ON, ON EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THE TOWN HALL SET YEAH.

AND WHERE I INVITE EVERYONE TO REALLY, UH, LISTEN IN AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA, IT'S WILDLY ADVERTISED.

AND I, I, I WANT TO HEAR IF, IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH JUST A ROVING SECURITY GUARD, IT'S FINE.

AND, AND, AND LOOK, I I'M, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ'S ITEM TO BE THE TECHNOLOGY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT'S MORE OF A REACTIVE ISSUE.

I, I, I KNOW WE HAVE A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF AREA, UH, IN MIAMI BEACH TO COVER.

UM, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A STRETCH TO SAY THAT IF, IF WE SEE AN IMMEDIATE VEHICLE COMING ON NORTH BAY ROAD, WE'RE GONNA IMMEDIATELY FLY A DRONE IN THE AIR AND FOLLOW HIM.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT, UM, BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES HELP WITH SOLVING CRIMES.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE CAMERAS IN MY MAYBE DO HELP WITH.

BUT AS FAR AS BEING PROACTIVE AND, UM, ON THE BOOTS, SORT OF ON THE GROUND 24 7, I THINK THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS WANT, IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER ENHANCED SECURITY WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO ANOTHER THING IS, WELL, UM, I THINK COMMISSIONER BOT MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA STAND ON THE WAY OF A RESIDENT LED INITIATIVE.

A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS EXISTS.

AND THAT'S SORT OF WHY I OPENED THIS, UM, THIS, THIS PROCESS FOR EVERYONE.

UM, WHEN I GOT THE LETTER FOR MIDDLE NORTH BAY ROAD, I, I DON'T KNOW WHO SET THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW , I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO STARTED THAT.

I, I'M GLAD THAT SOMEONE TOOK THE INITIATIVE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND, AND GET THESE PETITIONS.

IT'S JUST MY RESPONSIBILITY TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THIS PROCESS DOES EXIST AND, AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO, TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT IT.

AND ULTIMATELY, IT'S GONNA BE UP TO US TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO APPROVE THAT, UM, THAT INITIATIVE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORWARD.

AND SO, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG SORT OF DISCUSSION ON IT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT HELPS, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL, WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED TO THE, TO THESE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS.

CAR THEFTS ON NORTH BAY ROAD, THEY'RE JUST GONNA GO ON HALTON ROAD AND TAKE THE CARS, OR THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO, INTO LAKESIDE AND TAKE THE CARS.

I, I THINK THIS, UH, LET'S WRAP THIS UP.

THIS WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

UH, IT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

WELCOME YOU TO THIS TOWN HALL.

'CAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE DECISION MADE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO I WANNA LET YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A VOICE AT THE TABLE.

WELL, I, I JUST KIND FINISH UP.

UH, I'LL BE QUICK AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, REALLY.

UM, THE FIRST THING IS YES, I TOTALLY THINK, UH, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER BOT BECAUSE I THINK YOU NAILED IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD WITH THE PRIVATIZATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE SHOULD TOTALLY, UH, NOT THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE SHOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING.

OKAY? IT'S ONE THING FOR RESIDENTS TO AGITATE FOR THINGS.

I AGITATE THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANY TAXES AT ALL, .

BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT, HOW WE BUILD A SOCIETY.

UH, I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ'S IDEA IS A GREAT IDEA.

AND THAT'S THE POINT.

I MEAN, THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, I DID ADDRESS LICENSE PLATE READERS, BUT LICENSE PLATE READERS IN THE HANDS OF A PRIVATIZED SECURITY COMPANY IS ONE THING.

LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT ARE IN THE HANDS OF THE MIAMI BEACH POLICE AND, AND THE, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN ACCESS YOUR DATA FROM THE DMV AND STUFF, OKAY.

IS ANOTHER.

AND IF IT'S A CITYWIDE INITIATIVE OR A WIDE CITYWIDE INITIATIVE, THEN ALTON ROAD IS NOT GOING TO GET OVERLOOKED.

OKAY? WE'RE GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, HOW DO WE SOLVE TRAFFIC HOLISTICALLY? HOW DO WE SOLVE CRIME HOLISTICALLY? IT'S NOT IF WE PROTECT FOUR HOUSES ON NORTH BAY ROAD AND FOUR

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SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, OR LAKEVIEW, SORRY.

AND TAKE THE CARS.

SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS INVOLVING THE WHOLE CITY AND HAVING THE POLICE COME UP WITH PLANS THAT, THAT PROTECT THE WHOLE CITY.

OR AT LEAST CLEAR, YOU KNOW, WHY NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND AS FAR AS TOWN HALLS, THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT.

IF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, MAYBE I'M WRONG.

WERE, WERE ANYBODY, WAS ANYBODY FROM WALTON ROAD INVITED TO THE TOWN HALL? IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

IT'S PROBABLY NOTICE SUNSHINE MEETING.

BUT WE, I THINK THAT, BUT THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION.

SOME PEOPLE GET SENT.

IT IS A NOTICE MEETING AREAS.

HOW WERE THEY NOTIFIED OF THE TOWN HALL? THE CLERK NOTIFIES EM HOW? EMAIL, I THINK JUST EMAIL TO WHOM, MY, MY POINT IS TO CITYWIDE IS THAT, IS THAT THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THESE PROPOSALS ARE NOT SIMPLY BEING INTENTIONALLY EXCLUDED FROM THE PROCESS.

AND TO SAY THAT IT'S A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING AFFECTED ARE NOT BEING INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS, I THINK IS, IS QUITE QUITE, I I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT QUITE A VIOLATION OF, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT NOTHING'S INTENTIONAL.

I'M NOT TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY LEAVE OUT ANYONE IN THIS PROCESS.

OKAY? I MEAN, I'M, I'M GONNA BE ADVERTISING ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA.

I PAY FOR MY OWN SOCIAL MEDIA TO BE BOOSTED, UH, ACROSS THE CITY.

IT'S NOTHING, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY LIKE, OH, LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE ALTON ROAD RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY DON'T SHOW UP AND MAKE A THING.

LOOK, ULTIMATELY THIS IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO HEAR A DISCUSSION FROM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ALTON ROAD IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO, TO, TO JOIN.

UH, I THINK ALTON ROAD IS GOING TO GREATLY BENEFIT FROM THIS.

SO, UM, IF THIS INITIATIVE MOVES FORWARD, I, I DON'T, I DON'T CERTAINLY SEE THE PROBLEM, BUT TO, TO ACCUSE ME OF INTENTIONALLY LEAVING EVERYONE OUT.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE.

SO, SO WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO USE IT TOO? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY HAVE A RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING, WE HAVE TO FIND A PLACE FOR THE MEETING.

WE HAVE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH EVERYBODY.

THE CITY HAS RESOURCES LIKE THE GIS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAIL POSTCARDS TO EVERYBODY ON ALTON ROAD.

SO MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A TOWN HALL FOR ALTON ROAD TO DISCUSS THESE, UH, UH, UM, ITEMS. WOULDN'T IT SEEM PRUDENT TO JUST HAVE IT AT THE SAME TOWN HALL MEETING THAT EVERYONE CAN SPEAK AT? BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T INVITED.

WE DIDN'T GET THE POSTCARDS, WE DIDN'T GET THE EMAILS.

WELL, IT, IT'S, WELL, IT'S, THAT'S WHY.

AND NOW IT'S NEXT WEEK.

OTHERS PEOPLE GOT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T.

WE HAD TO FIND OUT FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

LET US WORK ON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BEING BETTER AT ADVERTISING THIS, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

UM, CHAIR, UH, WE'RE JUST, IS THIS ITEM TO BE RETAINED? IS IT GOING BACK TO COMMISSION? WHAT'S THE ACTION? OR IS THERE AN ACTION? I THINK THIS WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND WE GOT FEEDBACK.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, NEXT STEPS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, UH, COMPREHENSIVE SUNSHINE TOWN HALL.

UH, SO THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS.

SO, WE'LL, THE ITEM WILL BE RETAINED, SO WE'LL SHOW IT JUST ITEM, UH, HEARD INTO RETURN, OR IS IT ITEM HEARD ENCLOSED? LET'S, UH, HEAR IT AND, UM, RETAIN IT, UH, LET'S SAY THREE, TWO MONTHS FROM NOW.

UM, BECAUSE THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE AN INVOLVING PROCESS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, BOX OURSELVES IN, UH, AFTER WE HAVE THE TOWN HALL.

I, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE MORE BUREAUCRATIC.

UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF MOTION.

I WANNA KEEP THIS FRONT AND CENTER, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO, ESPECIALLY AS WE ENTER INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS.

CHAIR.

SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM HEARD AND TO RETURN IN JULY.

LET'S, UH, LET'S HEAR, UM, THE PARKING HOLIDAY DURING

[NB 16. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A PARKING HOLIDAY DURING SLOWER MONTHS OF THE YEAR.]

SLOW MONTHS.

UH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, UH, NB 16, CALL IT IN.

I'M GONNA FIND OUT.

MB 16 REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A PARKING HOLIDAY DURING SLOWER MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

MB 16.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ Y I'M SORRY.

YOUNG.

UH, ENA YELENA.

ENA DELENA.

SORRY, I, I THOUGHT WE WERE HEARING THOSE ITEMS TOGETHER, BUT IT WAS JUST THE DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO, I WOULD'VE COME UP IF THAT ONE, I WAS HERE TO LISTEN.

PERFECT.

AND TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF PROUSE AGAIN.

PERFECT.

I KNOW THERE'S A TOWN HALL.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO KIND OF DIVIDE UP THE TOWN HALL, THE NOT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THE NORTH BAY ISSUE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE BAY SHORE ONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY YOU GUYS ARE DOING A TOWN HALL.

WE NEED TO GET INFO OUT AND THEN COLLECT SOME OF THAT.

AND, AND I THINK WHEN WE, WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE MORE

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SPECIFIED TOWN HALLS.

WE JUST HAD ONE AT THE GOLF COURSE FOR BAY SHORE FOR A NUMBER OF ITEMS. I MEAN, LOOK, I WAS HERE TO JUST COLLECT INFORMATION.

APPRECIATE I GOING BACK, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER TO KIND OF GET, WOULD BE THE MICROPHONE OF WHERE EVERYONE STANDING WITH THIS, BECAUSE IT DID TAKE A LITTLE BIT BY SURPRISE TO BE ALL HONEST WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP.

BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I GOT INFO THAT I NEEDED.

PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

THE 14, WE'RE SENDING OUT HER EMAIL.

IF YOU COULD COME TO THE MIC, THE ONLINE DOESN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR.

SORRY.

DO I NEED TO GIVE MY NAME? UH, I THINK YOU'RE OKAY.

UM, WE'RE SENDING OUT THE EMAIL ABOUT THE TOWN HALL.

WE'VE DONE IT ONCE.

WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN.

UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE NICE TO JUST DIVIDE IT UP BECAUSE I DO THINK NORTH BAY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN BAY SHORE AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A PROCESS TOGETHER TO KIND OF THE FEEDBACK FROM WITHIN BAY SHORE TO SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE FEELING ABOUT IT.

BUT IT KIND OF TOOK US BY SURPRISE ALTOGETHER TOO.

I, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO TOWN HALLS, ONE FOR VENETIAN, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE'S TECHNICALLY SIX DIFFERENT ISLANDS.

AND THEN A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T WANT I, THE WAY I WAS GONNA STRUCTURE IT IS GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUR FOR NORTH BAY AND ANOTHER SEPARATE HOUR FOR, UM, UH, BAY SHORE.

AND I GUESS I, I CAN'T DO THREE NO TOWN HALLS BACK TO BACK.

I UNDERSTAND.

I, I WILL POINT OUT THOUGH, AS FAR AS BAYSHORE IS CONCERNED, OUR PRIME ISSUE IS AND WILL BE ALWAYS, NOT THE SAFETY, BUT TRAFFIC THAT I, I'M, I'M GONNA BE FLAT OUT HONEST TO YOU.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WITH POLICE AND EVERYONE YOU WERE THERE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY WELL, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR SUCCESSFUL, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS ALSO, I WOULD SAY FRONT AND CENTER OF SAFETY, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

I MEAN, LOOK, I PEOPLE, I MEAN, I, I'VE LIVED OVER 20 YEARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT OF BAYSHORE RIGHT NOW.

NEVER FELT UNSAFE.

I'VE RAISED FOUR CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUR PRIME CONCERN IS TRULY TRAFFIC.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FOCUS ON WHEN IT COMES TO BAYSHORE AS FAR AS THIS AGENDA.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, PUBLICIZING YOUR TOWN HALL AND THEN GETTING THE FEEDBACK FROM WITHIN THE RESIDENTS WITHIN BASHO, LIKE YOU SAID, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT, THE RESIDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO DRIVE THIS.

IF THIS IS PAL, IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.

IF PEOPLE DECIDE THAT IT'S NOT FOR THEIR NEIGHBOR, IT'S NOT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, PERCENT, WE APPRECIATE THE ONGOING DIALOGUE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT TOO.

AND I'LL SEE YOU ALL ON THE 14TH.

GREAT.

I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, I'M JUST KIDDING.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT, UH, THOSE ITEMS, UH, WEREN'T CALLED SIMULTANEOUSLY, WHICH WAS THE INTENTION.

SO LET ME KICK THAT BACK OVER TO YOU TO, UH, CONTINUE ON YOUR PARKING LOT.

SURE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, BRINGING FORWARD THIS ITEM TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF A PARKING DISCOUNT PROGRAM, UH, WHAT WE'VE CASUALLY REFERRED TO ON THIS AGENDA AS A PARKING HOLIDAY, UH, DURING THE SLOWER MONTHS OF THE YEAR, OF COURSE.

AND THE IDEA IS PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE IMPACT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT AS RESIDENTS.

WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED HOW QUIETER MONTHS BRING FEWER VISITORS AND SLOWER FOOT TRA FOOT TRAFFIC FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.

AND THIS INITIATIVE IS DESIGNED TO GIVE BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS A LITTLE EXTRA INCENTIVE TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, OUR RESTAURANTS, UH, AND SERVICE PROVIDERS, UH, IN THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN THEY NEED IT MOST.

UH, WHICH IS WHEN WE REALLY AREN'T AT OUR BUSIEST.

AND WHAT THIS ITEM IS PROPOSING TODAY IS NOT NECESSARILY A BLANKET FEE WAIVER.

CLEARLY, UH, THAT WOULD CONFLICT, UH, WITH OUR PARKING BOND COVENANTS, BUT TWO CREATIVE, UM, RESPONSIBLE ALTERNATIVES THAT STAFF HAVE WORKED ON.

ONE THAT OFFERS A DISCOUNT GARAGE RATE WITH, UH, PROOF OF PURCHASE AND ANOTHER, UH, PROPOSAL THAT USES PROMOTIONAL CODES THAT CAN BE USED THROUGH OUR PARKING APPS.

BOTH OPTIONS AIM TO STRIKE A BALANCE, UH, SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN STIMULATING, UH, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, WHILE ALSO BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR PARKING NEEDS.

UH, I TRULY LOVE THIS INITIATIVE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S PRO-BUSINESS WHILE BEING PRO RESIDENT AT THE SAME TIME.

AND IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO THE NEEDS OF BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY DURING SLOWER MONTHS, WHERE WE NEED TO BE INNOVATIVE AND USE WHATEVER TOOLS WE HAVE TO SUPPORT, UH, THE NEEDS OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO PASS IT ALONG TO OUR PARKING DIRECTOR, WHO I THINK IS MAKING HIS DEBUT IN THIS COMMITTEE.

AND A PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU, UH, TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AS WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

WELL, I'M,

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WELCOME TO MIAMI BEACH.

WE, I BREAK SOME DECOR, MY APOLOGIES.

, I KID, I KID.

UH, WELCOME TO MIAMI BEACH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU ON BOARD, WORKING, UH, HAND IN HAND WITH YOU.

SO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

THAT'S A THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I LIKE, UH, WILLIAM MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF PARKING FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.

SO THE TWO OPTIONS THAT THE TEAM HAS PUT TOGETHER, UH, BEFORE MY ARRIVAL, 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, THE DISCOUNTED PARKING RATES TO THE MUNICIPAL GARAGES WITH PROOF OF PURCHASE.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPLORING AT ENHANCING THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, FOR THE, UH, PARKING ACCESS REVENUE CONTROL SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN OUR GARAGES.

UH, WHAT THE CITY IS USING RIGHT NOW IS NEAR END OF LIFE.

AND SO WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, THERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW EACH INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS TO HAVE THEIR OWN VALIDATION ACCOUNT TO VALIDATE, UH, THE END USER.

SO THIS PROOF OF PURCHASE PROGRAM COULD BE VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT USING CURRENT PARKING TECHNOLOGIES, THE APPS THAT WOULD BE A BIT OF A, OF, OF A, OF A, I GUESS, A HIGHER BRANCH TO GRAB.

UM, ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE MUNICIPALITIES, YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE CURBS OPEN FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE POPPING IN AND POPPING BACK OUT.

WHEREAS YOU WANT THE GARAGES TO BE USED FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARKING AND THEN GOING TO HAVE DINNER FOR, OR LUNCH FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND THEN MAYBE PERUSE SOME STORES.

WHEREAS WE WANT THOSE CURBS FREE FOR BE ABLE TO POP IN, POP OUT.

I WANT TO GRAB THIS FROM MY LOCAL STORE AND MOVE ON.

BUT, UM, I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, AND THEN ONCE WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THIS WILL BE SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE CAN, UM, PERFORM VERY EASILY.

SHORT TIME COMMISSIONER, UM, ANY, ANY OF THOSE WILL WORK , BUT MAYBE MY PERSON, FUTURE ONE TOO, UH, ONCE IN FUTURE KING.

STORY, LIKE COME BACK TO MIAMI BEACH PARKING, IS IT BETTER, CHEAPER, EASIER THAN EVER? AND IF THAT'S ALL A THING THAT COULD HAPPEN SORT OF IN THE SAME BUNDLE OF INFORMATION THAT THAT COULD BE A TREMENDOUS STORY.

UM, I LOVE THE IDEA.

SO WELL DONE.

UM, HERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU TANGENTIALLY, UH, RELATED WHEN YOU USE YOUR RESIDENT APP, UM, OR PARKING DISCOUNT IN THE GARAGES, IT IS SOMETIMES CUMBERSOME AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY.

YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IF I SPEAK , SO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS ITEM, BUT IT IS KIND OF ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE PARKING GARAGES, BUT IN ADDITION TO SOME PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THEM, THEY OFTEN SMELL YUCKIER THAN THEY SHOULD.

UM, IS BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE NECK TO TRY TO USE YOUR RESIDENT PARKING APP DISCOUNT OR DISCOUNT WITHIN THE APP.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED AS WELL? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT, I LOVE THIS IDEA OF TRYING TO PRIORITIZE CURBSIDE PARKING FOR ERRANDS, QUICK ERRANDS VERSUS IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A FEW HOURS, WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT OR SOMEBODY ELSE, UM, GOING INTO THE GARAGE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DIRECTION.

SO YEAH, SO UPON MY ARRIVAL HERE, UH, MY TEAM, EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN WITH HAS MADE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION HAS A PASSION FOR ENSURING THAT THE RESIDENTS, UM, DO RECEIVE DISCOUNTED RATES WITHIN OUR GARAGES.

SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PROCURING THESE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES, MOST, AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALL, BUT MOST OF THE NEW PARKS PROGRAMS THAT PARKS IS, UH, PARKING ACCESS, REVENUE CONTROL SYSTEMS. MOST OF THOSE SYSTEMS, THEY'RE MORE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES NOW RATHER THAN JUST GATES.

SO THE DAY OF PUTTING A DOLLAR GATE GO UP AND DOWN ARE PRETTY MUCH GONE.

ALL OF THESE ARE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.

AND SO WHETHER WE WANT TO, UM, INTEGRATE WITH OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, LIKE PAY BY PHONE AND PARK MOBILE, WHETHER, UM, THE COMPANIES, UH, THAT COME TO THE TABLE FOR THESE GARAGE SYSTEMS HAVE SOMETHING NEW AND IMPROVED THAT MAKES IT VERY EASY TO REGISTER OR WE CAN PORT OVER THE INFORMATION WE ALREADY HAVE SO RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY REGISTERED, THAT WILL BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE TERRIFIC TO, TO BUILD ON THIS IF, YOU KNOW, THIS ALL SORT OF HAPPENS CONCURRENTLY OF LIKE OUR GARAGES ARE CLEANER, SAFER, BETTER LIT THAN EVER.

UM, IT'S EASIER TO USE YOUR PARKING APP AS A RESIDENT IN THE GARAGE.

AND IF YOU ARE, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PARKING RES UH, APP OR IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT AND YOU'RE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN, PLEASE USE OUR GARAGES BECAUSE, UM, YOU'VE GET A, A DEEP DISCOUNT.

SO THERE, THERE COULD BE SOME SYNERGIES BETWEEN THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS AN ITEM, ANOTHER ITEM, UM, FOR COMMISSION, UM, TODAY REGARDING, UH, GARAGE CLEANLINESS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT IS IN THE GARAGES ENDS ROUGHLY AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT, UH, THE OTHER ITEM IS COMING BEFORE YOU.

SO I FEEL THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME SYNERGIES WITH SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY ROLLOUTS AS WELL AS SOME EN ENHANCEMENTS WITH, WITH, UH, UH, UH, WITH CLEANLINESS WITHIN OUR GARAGE SYSTEM COMING VERY SOON.

AND IF I, IF I MIGHT, ONE MORE QUESTION TANGENTIALLY RELATED THE, UM, CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING ON THE COMMISSION ABOUT DOING, UM, UNIFIED VALET DISTRICTS.

I GUESS WOULD THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SORT OF CONCURRENT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A REALLY COOL

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YEAH, SO ALL SYSTEMS, ALL PARK SYSTEMS NOW HAVE CONCURRENT VALET APPS.

SO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT VENDORS OUT THERE.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHO WAS CHOSEN TO BE THE NEW TECHNOLOGY, UM, ALL OF THESE COMPANIES WORK WITH HOTELS AND, AND, AND SHOPPING MALLS THAT PROVIDE VALET SERVICE AND EVEN HEALTHCARE FACILITIES.

AND SO THE VALET LIFT WOULD BE, FROM A TECHNOLOGY ASPECT, UM, WOULD BE VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT BECAUSE THEY ALL INTEGRATE THING.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE.

THE OUT PARKING IS SO TRICKY AND I REALLY DO THINK THAT HAVING ACCESS TO $5 VALET CITYWIDE IS KEY FOR OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS TO PROSPER.

AND WHEN I SEE THAT OUR CITY VENDORS ARE CHARGING $25 AT THE VALETS, IT MAKES ME WINCE AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND GET THEIR PRICING DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'VE BEEN CHARGING TOO MUCH FOR TOO LONG.

AND I THINK IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE $5 IS TOO SHOCKING FOR THEM , AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA TAKE THAT, BUT WHOSE EXPENSE IS THAT HAPPENING? SO I THINK IF WE COULD MAYBE $10, BECAUSE $10 IS PALATABLE, RIGHT? I WOULD LIKE FIVE.

YEAH, IT IS, IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THIS ITEM.

AND BOTH ARE GOOD, BOTH ARE GOOD ITEMS. BUT THE WORD ON THE STREET, AND I ACTUALLY, I I DID SOME LIKE COMMISSION JULIO CAMACHO ITEM THE OTHER DAY.

WAIT, WAIT, I JUST WANNA FINISH.

20 SECONDS MORE.

UM, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY IS THERE'S NO PARKING.

AND THE PARKING WHEN YOU DO GO IS TOO EXPENSIVE.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LIKE ON THE RADIO THE OTHER DAY, AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE.

SO COMMISSIONER ABOUT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

UM, WE DO NEED TO, THIS IS, IT'S ESSENTIAL.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ISSUE AT HAND.

UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, I BELIEVE YOU MOVE THAT I MOVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.

AND ON THAT, IF, IF, IF I MAY, BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENTED TWO OPTIONS.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DIRECTOR.

UH, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE A RECOMMENDATION IS OPTION ONE COMMISSIONER.

OPTION OPTION ONE, YES.

FOR THE DISCOUNTED PARKING RATES IN THE GARAGES.

I, I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THAT OPTION TWO, UM, IT MAXIMIZES OUR REACH AND FLEXIBILITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIMITED ONLY TO THE GARAGES.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE AS TO, AS TO WHAT, UM, WHAT THE COMMITTEE FEELS IS A MORE, UH, REASONABLE APPROACH.

IS IT, DOES THE COMMITTEE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH OPTION ONE, LIMITING IT TO, UH, DISCOUNT PARKING AT MUNICIPAL GARAGES WITH A PROOF OF PURCHASE OR OPTION TWO, WHICH IS THE DISCOUNTED PARKING RATE AT ALL PARKING FACILITIES? UH, WERE, WERE, THE USER WOULD GET A PROMOTIONAL CODE.

I PERSONALLY LIKE OPTION TWO BETTER.

'CAUSE THAT WAY IF THE PERSON WANTS TO PARK ON, YOU KNOW, STREET SIDE OR THEY WANNA PARK IN A PARKING LOT, OR THEY WANNA PARK IN A GARAGE, THEY GET THE DISCOUNT REGARDLESS.

AND THIS IS A ONETIME THING FOR THIS SUMMER.

I, I THINK, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES.

OUR BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN SO COOPERATIVE AND UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR PUBLIC PURPOSE OF RESTORING PUBLIC SAFETY DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH.

UH, ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH SPRING BREAK, IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO SYSTEM DURING THE SLOWER MONTH WHEN WE HAVE LESS TOURISM HERE, AND ENCOURAGE THE LOCALS TO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES, NOT JUST THE LOCALS FROM WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, BUT THE LOCALS FROM THE GREATER COMMUNITY AROUND MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TO COME AND ENJOY, UH, DISCOUNTED PARKING.

IT COULD HELP, UH, THESE SMALL BUSINESSES WHEN THEY MIGHT BE STRUGGLING MOST AND, AND KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN THE WEEDS ON THIS.

UH, GIVEN IT'S THIS SUMMER, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR, UH, YOUR, UM, DESIRE TO HAVE OPTION NUMBER TWO.

COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, IS THAT THE OPTION THAT YOU MOVE THIS FOR? YES.

PERFECT.

IF, IF I CAN JUST REAL QUICK, JUST TO CONFIRM WITH THE DEPARTMENT, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE SUMMER? THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE TEAM.

UH, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD THE START DATE BE CONSIDERED FOR THE SUMMER? I THINK MY IDEA, WHEN I INTRODUCED THIS ON THE AGENDA, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH PROMOTION THAT GOES WITH MIAMI, UH, SPICE WITH MY MIAMI SPA MONTH AND HAVING THIS PARKING HOLIDAY OVERLAP WITH THOSE MONTHS, ESPECIALLY LIKE AUGUST.

AUGUST

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IS A VERY SLOW MONTH.

AND MY IDEA, MY GOAL WOULD BE JULY, AUGUST, THAT'S WHEN WE NEED THIS, UM, MOST SO THAT, SO THAT WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PROMOTIONS OUT THERE, LIKE MIAMI SPICE AND LIKE MIAMI SPA MONTH, WE OFFER AN EXTRA INCENTIVE, UH, TO LOCALS FROM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND WITHIN MIAMI BEACH TO COME OUT AND, AND SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES.

IF I COULD JUST CONFIRM THAT THE DEPARTMENT MAKES SURE THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S DOABLE.

SO, SO WE'LL SHOW THIS TO RETURN TO COMMISSIONER WITH THE FAVOR OF RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION, IMPLEMENT OPTION TWO, UH, FOR A PARKING DISCOUNT, UM, PROGRAM DURING THE, DURING JULY AND AUGUST OF 2025.

AND THAT WAS, UH, BY, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ AND SECONDED BY I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER BOT.

DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THAT? LET ME, UH, READ IN, UH, MB 19 DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PARKING DEPARTMENT ESTABLISHING ITS OWN CLEANING CREW, MB 19.

AYE.

AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY I'M THE SPONSOR OF THIS ITEM, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING, IT'S THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH THAT'S DOING, IT'S NOT ALEX FERNANDEZ.

ANYONE THAT WANTS TO BE A PART OF THIS.

YEAH, I'LL, THIS IS OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORT.

I'LL CO-SPONSOR ME TOO.

I'LL CO-SPONSOR.

UM, WILL, WHY DON'T YOU STAY UP HERE FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ'S ITEM.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HEAR NB 19, UH, COMMISSIONER,

[NB 19. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PARKING DEPARTMENT ESTABLISHING ITS OWN CLEANING CREW.]

AND JUST TO CLOSE UP THE LAST ONE, I'M SORRY.

I'LL BE ADDING, UH, COMMISSIONER BOT, COMMISSIONER ROSA GONZALEZ AND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE AS CO-SPONSORS ON MB 16 AND, AND ME.

OH, AND I'M SORRY.

AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.

AND ME TOO.

SO FACILITIES, ANYBODY WHO HAS GONE INTO OUR PARKING GARAGES CAN EASILY SAY, UM, THAT THEY NEED SOME WORK, AND THE WORK IS CONSTANT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, RIGHT NOW, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT IS IN CHARGE OF OUR PARKING GARAGES.

BUT THE WAY THAT I ENVISION THIS IS LIKE A SPECIAL CREW THAT IS ONLY FOCUSED ON THE PARKING GARAGES.

AND IT'S REALLY, I DON'T REALLY WANT ONLY A MAINTENANCE CREW.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE, I, I MEAN, CLEANING, I WANT IT TO BE CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IT REQUIRES CONSTANT PAINTING, CONSTANT PRESSURE CLEANING, ALMOST DAILY.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS, , SO I WOULD RATHER TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR FUNDING, UM, THAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE REALLY CLEAN GARAGES ARE SUCCESSFUL.

GARAGES ARE SAFE GARAGES, RIGHT? SO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WANNA SEE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE, AND YOU WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CREW.

AND THAT WAY IT TAKES THE ONUS OFF OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT WHO HAS SO MUCH STUFF TO DO.

I MEAN, LINCOLN ROAD, ALL THESE CITY BUILDINGS.

AND I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS UNDERSTAFFED AND OVERWORKED AND REALLY, IT SHIPS IT TO THE PARKING DEPARTMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO, NUMBER ONE, HAVE GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY, CLEANER GARAGES.

AND, UM, AND I THINK WE'LL SEE REAL RESULTS.

AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.

I WAS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE AT THE LOWE'S THE OTHER DAY, AND AS I WAS STEPPING OUT, THERE WAS A, A POOL OF URINE THAT I HAD TO STEP OVER.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO EVER SEE THAT AGAIN.

I WANT THE HALLWAYS TO BE S**C AND SPAN THE STAIRWAYS TO BE CLEAN AS CAN BE.

AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY ATTACK THIS, UM, IN A WAY THAT WILL CREATE ACCOUNTABILITY.

YEAH, I, I LOVE THIS.

AND I THINK, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, IT DESERVES A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW FOR HOW WE MANAGE OUR PARKING GARAGES ON THE 17TH STREET GARAGE HERE.

WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND FACILITIES AND FLEET TAKING GROUND FLOOR PRIMETIME SPOTS HERE, RIGHT? UM, AND OUR SURFACE PARKING LOT ON P 27, WE HAVE CODE COMPLIANCE TAKING UP, UH, 20, 25, 30 SPOTS AT SOMETIMES, AND THAT'S PRIME PARKING THAT'S SUPPORTING OUR BUSINESSES.

UM, I, I LOVE THE ENTHUSIASM THAT YOU BRING TO THE JOB.

SO I WELCOME YOU TO COME BACK TO US WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN, WELL, THIS IS THE STATUS QUO, HOW IT'S ALWAYS DONE.

I WANT YOU TO BE OPEN-ENDED AND REALLY TAKE, UH, A LEADERSHIP ROLE HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A, THIS IS A CRITICAL DEPARTMENT HERE.

UM, I, I KNOW YOU COME WITH SOME BIG EXPERIENCE, AND THAT COMES WITH A BIG EXPECTATION.

SO I, I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU, UH, FRONT AND CENTER HERE, AND VERY SUPPORTIVE, KIND OF HAVING A, A COMPLETE RE-IMAGINATION OF HOW OUR PARKING GARAGES, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN SOME OF OUR CRITICAL, UH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ARE BEING MANAGED.

SO I, UM, ANOTHER GREAT IDEA BY, UH, ANOTHER GREAT COLLEAGUE, AND I'M SUPER SUPPORTIVE, AND I'D LIKE TO BUILD ON IT, IF I MAY.

IF I MAY, THIS IS GREAT.

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SO I'M GONNA TOSS THIS OUT TO YOU.

SO THERE ARE GARAGES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE THE FIR WELL, GARAGES IN OUR CITY ARE, FOR MANY PEOPLE THE FIRST POINT OF ENTRY, UH, TO OUR CITY, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU COME OVER AND YOU'RE NOT SURE WHERE YOU ARE, AND YOU FINALLY PARK AND YOU'RE LIKE, AH, I'M IN MIAMI BEACH FOR THE FIRST TIME.

SO, COOL.

SO BESIDES THE SOMETIMES APPALLING CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE FIND, UM, THERE ARE GARAGES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT MAKE THAT FIRST TOUCH POINT PART OF THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE.

AND I THINK WE ARE MISSING A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME THING.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET IT CLEANED UP, UM, AND FIGURE OUT THE SCHEDULE, WHO'S CONTROLLING WHAT, AND WHERE OUR FACILITIES, UM, FLEET IS GONNA PARK.

SO THE BEST PARKING SPOTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON, I THINK IT'S, IT GETS INCORPORATED INTO THIS, IS HOW DO WE BEAUTIFY THE GARAGES? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MONEY TO DO IT.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIRING CONSULTANTS.

I'M SAYING, LET'S PUT IT OUT TO OUR, OUR SCHOOL STUDENTS.

LET'S PUT IT OUT TO OUR, OUR BIDS.

LET'S HAVE THE, THE GARAGE THAT'S BETWEEN OCEAN DRIVE AND, AND WASHINGTON ON SIXTH STREET, WHEREVER.

I THINK IT'S JUST OFF OF, UH, JUST OFF OF WASHINGTON.

LET'S HAVE MURALS PAINTED THERE THAT REFLECT THE ARCHITECTURE.

LET'S HAVE THE SAME THING WITH, WITH THE GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S PRETEND THERE'S A BEACH THERE.

WE CAN DO SO MANY CREATIVE THINGS.

WE WOULD PAY FOR THE PAINT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN SPRING FOR THE PAINT.

IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED, BUT PUT IT OUT TO THE SCHOOLS, PUT IT OUT TO RESIDENTS, PUT IT OUT TO HOMEOWNER GROUPS.

ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED TO DO THIS KIND OF PUBLIC POLICY OR A PUBLIC, UM, UH, COMMUNITY ARTWORK AND, AND, UH, COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITIES.

LET'S DO IT.

LET'S OPEN IT UP.

LET'S HAVE A CALL FOR ARTISTS, SUBMIT A PLAN.

LET'S GO.

UM, REALLY INEXPENSIVE, REALLY FUN NEWSWORTHY IT, IT BRINGS ART TO PUBLIC PLACES IN A WAY THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

BECAUSE HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET TO MAKE A PIECE OF ART THAT GOES INTO A PUBLIC PLACE? AND, YOU KNOW, HOW SOON CAN WE START? SO THAT'S, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THIS ITEM.

YES, THAT'S FINE.

, WE COULD FOR SURE BUILD ON IT.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT 24 7, UM, MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, GARAGE TO GARAGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO GIVE THEM UP TO PAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, WE'RE HOSTING THE PARTY EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY GETS STURDY ALL OVER AGAIN, AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP UP WITH.

SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN ORDER TO REALIZE THIS? I THINK FROM A FACILITIES PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BILL AND MOVING FORWARD ON A RIGHT, YEAH.

TRANSITION PLAN.

SO IF I CAN, IF I CAN, I THINK THIS IS A QUICK ITEM.

IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT WE'D GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND THIS BE CONSIDERED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I KNOW I'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH WILL, WE'RE IN THAT BUDGET PROCESS, AND YOU KNOW, THIS, I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL ENHANCEMENTS THAT THE PARKING DEPARTMENT IS CONSIDERING RELATED TO CLEANLINESS.

UM, BUT THIS WOULD JUST SUPPORT THAT TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION ENDORSING THAT.

SO I WOULD SEE, UM, THIS TO RETURN TO COMMISSION, THE FAIR RECOMMENDATION TO FUND THE PARKING DEPARTMENTS CLEANING CREW, AND TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE 26 BUDGET PROCESS.

AND I THINK THERE'LL BE A, A COUPLE OF THEM, UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE DURING THE MAJOR PROCESS TO FUND.

AND BY THE WAY, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FULL-TIME PENSION POSITIONS.

YOU CAN GO OUT AND HIRE A CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE CREW AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GET A CONTRACTOR.

I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL OPTIONS BECAUSE I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE PENSION POSITIONS IS, IS NOT ALWAYS THE IDEAL FOR YOUR BUDGET.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF YOU HIRED A CLEANING CREW EVERY SINGLE DAY, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT ONE PERSON IS ACCOUNTABLE.

AND I THINK IT'S POSSIBLY EASIER FOR YOU THAT HAVING ONE OF OUR DIRECTORS BE ACCOUNTABLE.

YOU'VE GOT THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU KNOW, BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GO THROUGH OUR, AS LONG AS YOU GET A GOOD DEAL THROUGH OUR PROCURE PROCUREMENT SYSTEM.

SO, UH, OKAY.

SO, WELL, WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT TO THE FULL COMMISSION WITH THE YES.

I, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY LOOP IN NB 20 ON THIS, UH, DISCUSS LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE 17TH STREET GARAGE? UH, I THINK THERE'S, THEY'RE SEPARATE, BUT WE CAN HEAR IT VERY, VERY, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S QUICK.

I DON TO BE HEARD.

LET, BUT IF THAT, IF THAT MOTION, WHO, WHO WOULD BE MAKING THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BOT.

I'LL MAKE IT, I'LL SECOND.

AND THEN ALL OF THE, EVERYONE'S WILLING, WILLING TO CO-SPONSOR.

WE CAN, SINCE WE'RE ALL GETTING ALONG.

SO IF COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ HAD A STEP AWAY, BUT HE HAD ASKED ME TO ADD HIM AS A SPONSOR ON THE PLEAD CLEANING FOR ITEM I WILL AS WELL.

MAGAZINE I BOUGHT.

I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IF I MAY, UM, RICK, TO, UM, CODIFY THIS NOTION OF, UM, HAVING AN ART INITIATIVE IN IN THE PARKING GARAGES.

DOES THAT BECOME A SEPARATE ITEM THAT I HAVE TO BRING, OR CAN WE MAKE THAT AS FOLDED INTO THIS ONE? I, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING A SEPARATE ITEM.

I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF UNRELATED ENOUGH THAT OKAY.

WE, WE WOULD WANNA DO SOMETHING SEPARATE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I MUST HEAR MB 20 BECAUSE IT'S, UH, DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

HEARING NONE OPPOSED, THE ITEM PASSES THREE.

NOTHING.

AND I BELIEVE CHAIR, YOU WANTED TO HEAR M 20.

YEAH,

[NB 20. DISCUSS LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE 17TH STREET PARKING GARAGE (G5).]

SO WE

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WILL SKIP THE NICETIES AND JUST PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUICK ONE.

UH, MB 20 DISCUSSED LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE 17TH STREET GARAGE, G FIVE MB 20.

GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL.

UM, NICE.

LET'S SKIP THE NICETIES.

LET'S GO .

SO THE 17TH STREET PARKING GARAGE IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF CITY HALL, RECEIVED AN INTERIOR EFFICIENCY LED LIGHTING UPGRADE IN 2023.

SUBSEQUENTLY, UM, A LIGHTING STUDY WAS COMPLETED, UM, WHICH INDICATED THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE LIGHTING WITHIN THE PARKING AREAS, STAIRWELLS AND ELEVATOR LOBBIES TO FURTHER PROVIDE ADEQUATE LIGHTING ON THE 17TH STREET COR 17TH STREET GARAGE, WE'RE SEEKING, UM, AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 TO ADD EXTERIOR WALL PACKS, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE GARAGE TO ALLOW FOR BETTER LIGHTING.

UM, IT'LL ADD BOTH SECURITY AND SAFETY, UM, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE GARAGE.

AND, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT'S HEAVILY, UM, UTILIZED THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE GARAGE FOR LINCOLN ROAD.

YEAH, THIS IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS, UH, GETTING THAT FIRST AND LAST IMPRESSION, EVERYTHING WE ALL MENTIONED.

SOMEBODY, UH, WANNA MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND I MOVE.

OKAY, I'LL SECOND.

SO WE'LL SHOW THIS TO RETURN TO COMMISSIONER IN THE FAVOR.

RECOMMENDATION, DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION, IMPLEMENT THE ADDITIONAL, UH, LIGHTING DISCUSSED.

UH, YES, THAT THAT'S BEING MADE BY COMMISSIONER B.

UH, SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE.

HEARING NOT OPPOSED.

THE ITEM PASSES THREE.

NOTHING.

AND THIS, LET'S HEAR COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, I, I KNOW YOU'RE JOINING US.

SO LET'S HEAR, UH,

[NB 23. DISCUSS CONSIDERING BEAUTIFICATION OF THE ALLEYWAYS BEHIND ROASTERS 'N TOASTERS AND CAFÉ AVANTI ON THE 41ST STREET CORRIDOR]

MB 23.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET TO 18.

WE HAVE SO MUCH ON THE AGENDA, BUT I WANT TO HEAR AT LEAST TWO OF YOUR ITEMS. SO LET'S GO TO MB 23, UH, ALLOW YOU TO INTRODUCE THAT IF I CAN.

UH, MB 23 WAS LINKED WITH MB 14.

UH, SO I WILL READ THEM BOTH IN, UH, MB 14 DISCUSSED THE ACTIVATION OF ALLEYS IN SOUTH BEACH, ART DECO SIGNS AND NORTH BEACH MIM O SIGNS.

MB 14.

AND THEN MB 23 DISCUSSED CONSIDERING BEAUTIFICATION OF THE ALLEYWAYS BEHIND ROASTERS AND TOASTERS AND CAFE AVANTI ON THE 41ST STREET CORRIDOR, MB 23, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE'RE LINKED THAT IS COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ COMING BACK? EMINENTLY? I I DON'T REALLY SEE THEM AS BEING LINKED BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE PROJECT, OR I FEEL LIKE IT WILL NEVER OKAY.

YOU REALIZE.

SO WE'LL JUST SHOW, UH, MB 23 BEING THREE GOT IT.

MB 23.

SO 41ST STREET, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE NARROW AND IT'S A HIGHWAY.

BUT I WANNA ENCOURAGE A CAFE CULTURE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA SIT OUTSIDE UNDER UMBRELLAS A AKIN POSSIBLY TO A LINCOLN ROAD TYPE ENVIRONMENT.

LOCALLY.

WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON 41ST STREET ONLY.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN ON THE HIGHWAY SIDE.

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE BACK END OF THE BUSINESSES.

RIGHT? UM, AND WE NEED TO CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT ALLEYWAYS ON 41ST STREET, THEY ARE IN BAD SHAPE, NO OFFENSE.

WE KNOW, LIKE, LIKE THEY'RE, THEY ARE, THEY'RE IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.

NOW, THIS IS A QUICK FIX.

NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE MOST RESILIENT PAVEMENT IS, UH, PAVERS AND WE HAVE A VENDOR FOR IT, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO EXPENSIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, BECAUSE TO SAY TO DO ALL OF 41ST STREET IS POSSIBLY TOO MUCH.

I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE ALLEYWAYS WITH TWO ALLEYWAYS, ONE SIDE ON THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND ROASTERS AND TOASTERS ADJACENT TO NORTH BEACH ELEMENTARY.

AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT WHERE, UM, PITA HUT IS OKAY AND ALL.

I'M WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO SIMPLE LANDSCAPING AND PUT OUT PAVERS, BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE BUSINESSES TO HAVE OUTDOOR CAFES.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA ENCOURAGE OTHER BUSINESSES TO WANT TO COME TO 41ST STREET BECAUSE THEY CAN HAVE OUTDOOR CAFES.

AND THAT WAY WE'RE BEAUTIFYING THE, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF 41ST STREET.

I DON'T THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A HUGE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY GET THE PRICE.

LET'S JUST DO ONE PICK, ONE THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN GET DONE.

LET'S START WITH ONE , PICK ONE ALLEYWAY AND MAYBE COME BACK.

CAN WE, I MEAN, COME BACK NEXT MONTH? OR SHOULD WE MOVE TO THE FULL COMMISSION? I MEAN, I DOES IT LIKE WHAT IF WE CAN GET IT DONE? I, I, I LOVE THE IDEA BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I REALLY THINK WE LACK IS COMMUNAL SPACES.

I, I HATE LEAVING BRICKELL AND COMING BACK TO MIAMI BEACH AND HAVING NOWHERE WHERE I CAN JUST GO AND SIT OUT AND SEE PEOPLE, RIGHT? YEAH.

I HATE THAT.

SO WE NEED COMMUNAL SPACES.

41ST STREET IS A GREAT AREA.

BRAD, DO YOU WANT TO RUN WITH THIS, UH, WORK WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ? YEP, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL HEAR THIS AND CONTINUE IT, AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH TO KIND OF HAVE A MORE REFINED, UH, ANALYSIS HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S ALREADY A RESTAURANT.

WE'RE GONNA PICK ONE WHERE

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THAT RESTAURANT IS GONNA BE A BIG BENEFACTOR OF THIS.

AND THEN ONCE WE SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT LOOKS AND HOW TRANSFORMATIVE IT IS, IT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE BACK TO 41ST STREET, WHERE WE REALLY NEED BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, CAFES.

I, I, I LOVE IT.

SO, UH, CONCEPTUALLY I SUPPORT IT.

WANNA SEE THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS.

UM, BUT YES, I LIKE THIS.

SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM HEARD AND THE RETURN WITH A SPECIFIC PLANNING COST.

RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, MR. CFO, IF WE CAN.

YOU READ IN OB SIX.

[OB 6. A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE APPROPRIATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF THE TERM OF THE MIAMI BEACH MARINA LEASE, TO INCLUDE OPTIONS FOR BOTH A SHORT-TERM (LESS THAN 10 YEARS) AND LONG-TERM (10 YEARS OR MORE) EXTENSION, AND TO PRESENT A DRAFT TERM SHEET THAT INCLUDES BOTH OPTIONS TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE (FERC) AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEIGHBORHOODS AND QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE (PSNQLC) FOR REVIEW BY EACH COMMITTEE AS SOON AS REASONABLY PRACTICABLE.]

DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE APPROPRIATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF THE TERM OF THE MIAMI BEACH MARINA LEASE, TO INCLUDE OPTIONS FOR BOTH A SHORT TERM LESS THAN 10 YEARS AND LONG TERM, 10 YEARS OR MORE EXTENSION.

AND TO PRESENT A DRAFT TERM SHEET THAT INCLUDES BOTH OPTIONS TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMICS RESILIENCY COMMITTEE, FERC AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE.

FOR THE REVIEW OF EACH COMMITTEE AS SOON AS REASONABLY PRACTICAL, PRACTICAL OB SIX.

HI, LIZ.

GO AHEAD.

TAKE IT AWAY.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, THE MIAMI BEACH LEASE LE LEASE EXPIRES IN 2052.

THE ADMINISTRATION WAS DIRECTED ON APRIL 3RD, 2024 TO NEGOTIATE APPROPRIATE TERMS FOR SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM LEASE EXTENSION.

SINCE THAT TIME DISCUSSIONS WERE HELD, OR DISCUSSION WAS, WAS BETWEEN SOFTA AND TEX, WHICH PROVIDED THE CHANGES TO THE MARINA LEASE.

AT THE SAME TIME, OIG HAD BEEN COMPLETING AN AUDIT OF THE MARINA LEASE, UH, EFFECTIVE APRIL 17TH, 2025, WHICH IS STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION BY BOTH PARTIES.

BOTH ITEMS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY LEASE AGREEMENT MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THANK YOU.

IN, IN, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE GOT A, A REPORT FROM THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, RIGHT, WITH A, I GUESS A DISCREPANCY THAT, THAT WAS ALLUDED TO OF PAYMENTS AND MONEY OWED TO THE CITY.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THROUGH THE CHAIR INSPECTOR GENERAL UP AND JUST GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE, UM, OF THE FINDINGS.

AUDITEE, BY THE, BY THE MARINA THAT, UH, THEY INTERPRETED IT DIFFERENTLY.

UM, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS JOSEPH SINO, INSPECTOR GENERAL, UM, WE, UH, CONCLUDED, UH, AN AUDIT OF THE, OF THE MARINA CONTRACT, UH, UM, SOMETIME LAST MONTH.

AND IT WAS A LENGTHY AUDIT.

I THINK IT WAS BEGUN IN THE LATTER PART OF 2023 AND CONTINUED, UH, UH, FOR A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME.

I WILL SAY THAT IT WAS A CONTENTIOUS AUDIT.

UH, WE HAD GREAT DIFFICULTY GETTING ALL OF THE, UH, THE RECORDS THAT WE NEEDED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO COMPLETE IT.

UM, THE AUDITEE LAWYERED UP EAR EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WHICH THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO.

BUT, UH, WE, I WOULD SAY WE DID NOT GET THE LEVEL OF COOPERATION THAT WE WOULD EXPECT FROM A, FROM A CITY CONTRACTOR.

UM, WE DID IDENTIFY A NUMBER OF AREAS OF, WE THINK A LACK OF COMPLIANCE WITH TERMS IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT.

UH, THE MOST SERIOUS ONES I THINK INVOLVE, UH, THE FAILURE TO PAY THE PROPER AMOUNT TO THE, TO THE CITY BASED ON GROSS REVENUES THAT WHAT WERE GENERATED, UH, AT THE, UM, AT, AT THE MARINA.

AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THAT, BUT IT, IT RESULTED WITH IN A SUBSTANTIAL WE ASSESSMENT THAT WE, WE SAID THAT IN THIS, THE AUDIT ONLY WENT FOR ONE YEAR, THE 2022.

UM, AND WE CONCLUDED BASED ON, ON INTERPRETATIONS OF THE, UH, THE LEASE TERMS THAT WE, UH, GOT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE DO, WE DON'T OURSELVES, UH, MAKE INDEPENDENT, UH, INTERPRETATIONS.

WE RELY ON THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN IT COMES TO ANY, ANY PROVISIONS IN THE CONTRACT THAT MIGHT, UH, NOT, MIGHT BE CONTENDED.

UM, AND SO I THINK IN FOR THAT ONE YEAR, I THINK WE CONCLUDED AN ASSESSMENT OF ABOUT $661,000.

HOW MUCH, EXCUSE ME, HOW MUCH? 661,000.

THAT WAS OUR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE, THE CITY WAS OWED.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T INCLUDE WHAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN OWED FOR OTHER YEARS.

AND THERE'S LITTLE DOUBT THAT THE SAME PRACTICES WERE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, THE AUDIT, RIGHT UP TILL THE PRESENT DAY.

AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS I KNOW NOW, IT THAT THERE WAS A CONTENTION BY THE, UH,

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UM, AND SO THAT'S A MATTER THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE IN, UH, IN CONTENTION, UH, WITH, UM, THERE ALSO WERE, UH, WE IDENTIFIED THAT SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE CONTRACT ITSELF, APART FROM COMPLIANCE.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE TERMS IN THE CONTRACT THAT, UH, THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED FOR THE CITY TO, UH, BE ADEQUATELY PROTECTED.

UM, AND SO, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY WE PROTECTED FROM WHAT, EXCUSE ME, YOU SAID ADEQUATELY PROTECTED.

PROTECTED FROM PROTECTED FROM, FROM UNFAIRNESS.

I MEAN, AND JUST IN THE EXAMPLE I I WOULD USE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, 2 CENTS A GALLON THE CITY WAS GETTING FOR, UH, FOR, UM, FOR SALES OF, OF GASOLINE THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT IN 1983, HAD NEVER BEEN UPDATED.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, COST OF GAS HAS GONE UP QUITE A BIT SINCE 1983.

UH, BUT NO ONE EVER THOUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, TO INCREASE THE CITY'S PORTION OR, OR THE CITY'S REVENUE STREAM FROM THAT.

UH, SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS PLAINLY UNFAIR TO THE CITY.

AND IT'S, BUT IT'S IN THE CONTRACT.

SO LIKE, WE CAN'T SAY THAT IT WASN'T COMPLIED WITH THAT, THAT PARTICULAR, UM, UH, PROVISION.

BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD SAY THAT BEFORE ANY CONSIDERATION GOES TO EXTENDING THE CON UH, CONTRACT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE STUCK WITH IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CERTAIN THINGS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AND MAYBE, UM, THE CONTRACT TERMS SHOULD BE CHANGED TO, UH, TO, TO BE FAIR TO THE CITY.

UM, SO, UM, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, UM, OUR INSPECTOR GENERAL IS SAYING THAT FOR 2022, WE, THE CITY IS OWED ROUGHLY $600,000, AND THAT'S JUST ONE YEAR.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.

IT, IT, ARE YOU, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS MONEY OWED TO THE CITY FOR 2022? UM, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND WE'VE GIVEN HIM SOME OPINIONS.

UM, THERE ARE DISAGREEMENTS ON BEHALF OF SUNTEC.

UH, I HAVE NOT YET HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OF YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES, UH, TO DISCUSS MY THOUGHTS.

AND IN LIGHT OF THE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY OF LITIGATION, I WOULD RATHER NOT GO INTO SOME OF THE LEGAL THEORIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN, IN THESE DECISIONS.

BUT, UM, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE, THE NUMBER THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS PROPOSED, UM, OUR OFFICE DOES AGREE THAT THERE IS AT LEAST SUPPORT WITHIN THE LEASE FOR THAT NUMBER.

WOW, OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO, UM, MR. GRECO, WOULD YOU, DID YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON ANYTHING? I'D LOVE TO.

THANKS.

UH, MICHAEL GRECO ON BEHALF OF TTT, UM, 300 ALTON ROAD, UH, MY OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE LOCATION OF THE MARINA.

AND I WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS.

WE ARE NOT A CITY CONTRACTOR, WE ARE A TENANT.

OKAY? SO HAVING THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CALL US A CONTRACTOR OR A VENDOR, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING OFF ON THE WRONG NOMENCLATURE.

IT'S A LEASE.

WE ARE A TENANT OF THE CITY AND WE ARE THE LANDLORD OF ALL THE SUBTENANTS.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OPERATING WITH THE SAME NOMENCLATURE.

THESE ARE JUST FACTS.

I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS LEASE, AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, GOES BACK TO 1983.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE READ THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES A 10 PAGE RESPONSE FROM OUR LITIGATION COUNSEL ADDRESSING EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED IN THE REPORT.

WE DO NOT AGREE, PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

I CAN GO LINE BY LINE AND EXPLAIN THE POSITION THAT MY CLIENT HAS REGARDING EACH ISSUE, BUT ALL OF THE DISCREPANCIES, THIS AUDIT WENT ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THE CONCLUSIONS ARE A RESULT.

WE ALREADY TOLD THEM THAT.

SO JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, SUNTEC, AND THIS PREDATES ALL THREE OF YOURS, ELECTION TO THE COMMISSION.

SUNTEC TOOK OVER THIS LEASE FROM THE CHRISTOPHE'S IN APPROXIMATELY 2019.

PRIOR TO SUNTEC TAKING OVER THIS LEASE, THE CITY WAS GETTING ABOUT $1.2 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT.

SINCE THEN, THE CITY HAS AVERAGED INCOME OF AROUND $2.7 MILLION A YEAR SINCE MY CLIENT HAS TAKEN OVER THE MARINA.

MORE THAN DOUBLING THE REVENUE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY FOR THE PREVIOUS HOWEVER MANY DECADES, EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE 1983, THE CALCULATIONS AS TO WHAT GROSS RECEIPTS ARE, HAVE BEEN EXACTLY THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE USE SINCE 2019.

EVERY YEAR WHEN WE PROVIDE OUR NICE BIG CHECK TO THE CITY, WE PROVIDE AN AUDIT THAT'S GENERATED FROM A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ACCOUNTING FIRM, AND THEY BREAK EVERYTHING DOWN.

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AND IN THAT AUDIT, IT SAYS IN BIG LETTERS, THIS MONEY GROSS RECEIPTS DOES NOT INCLUDE PASS THROUGH COSTS.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE CAM.

THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THIS MONEY THAT MR. CINO IS TALKING ABOUT COMES FROM.

THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE.

IT DID NOT REQUIRE A YEAR AND A HALF INVESTIGATION EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR SINCE SUN TEXAS HAD THE CONTRACT.

WE TELL YOU THIS, THIS IS NOT A HIDE THE BALL.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEFARIOUS.

WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR AS TO HOW THESE CALCULATIONS OCCUR.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S IN THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT IS THAT THERE'S A DISCREPANCY REGARDING OUR GROSS RECEIPTS NUMBER AND THE NUMBER THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE STATE, BECAUSE THE NUMBER THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE STATE INCLUDES SALES FOR GASOLINE.

BUT THE GASOLINE MONEY THAT WE GIVE TO THE CITY IS SEPARATE FROM GROSS RECEIPTS.

'CAUSE THAT'S DETERMINED BY PER GALLON SALES.

I CAN GO LINE BY LINE AND EXPLAIN EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR AND HOW ON OUR SIDE IT LINES UP.

BUT TO BE EVEN REMOTELY ACCUSED OF ANY WRONGDOING OR ANY SHORTCOMINGS IS JUST, IT'S JUST WRONG.

SO I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ACCUSING NO, I, I DISAGREE.

AND LISTEN, I I'M CERTAINLY NOT, BUT I, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.

BUT IF YOU READ THE TENOR OF THE OIG G REPORT, AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TENOR OF JUST BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT WE, USING THE TERM LAWYERED UP JUST SHOWS HOW LONG MR. SERINO WAS A PROSECUTOR IN THIS COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE A TENANT OF A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, HAVING LAWYERS AS PART OF THE PROCESS AND BEING DENIGRATED EVEN 1% BY HAVING ATTORNEYS IS, IS, TO ME, REPRESENTATIVE COMING FROM AN ATTORNEY IS KIND OF SHOCKING REPRESENTATIVE.

BUT REGARDLESS, REPRESENTATIVE, HOLD, HOLD ON.

I I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT LOOK, WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR GENERAL, RIGHT? UM, HE, HE'S EMPLOYED BY THE CITY AND HE, HE PROVIDES US AND THE TAXPAYERS A REPORT.

AND WHEN I SEE THAT THERE IS A HUGE DISCREPANCY FOR ONE YEAR, FOR A LARGE SUM OF MONEY, IT, IT RAISES CONCERNS, RIGHT? AND AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO DO THINGS IN THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE TO DO THINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I LIKE TO JUST LET EVERYONE SEE IN THE SUNSHINE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND SO WHEN OUR INSPECTOR GENERAL TELLS US THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE, I, I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

UM, I, I APPRECIATE THAT SUN TEX IS NOW THAT THE, THAT THEY'VE TAKEN OVER, THAT IT HAS DOUBLED THE REVENUE TO THE CITY, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING DIRECTION FROM OUR PAID STAFF, RIGHT? AND IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE MORE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE MORE.

AND SO, UM, LET ME LET THE INSPECTOR GENERAL RESPOND.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA RESPOND, UH, JOE, IT'S OKAY.

I'M JUST BRIEFLY, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, I NO NEED TO QUIBBLE OVER TERMS, BUT AT LEAST AS A CONTRACT, WE'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION.

BUT THAT, THAT'S REALLY NOT TERRIBLY IMPORTANT.

AND BY THE WAY, I HAVE CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, WITH MR. GRIEGO.

MR. GRIEGO DID NOT REPRESENT THE MARINA DURING THE AUDIT AS, AS AN ATTORNEY.

HE DID NOT.

WE, HE, THEY HAD TWO OTHER ATTORNEYS WHO WE DEALT WITH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SO, UM, HE WAS NOT INVOLVED IN, IN DIRECTLY IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH.

WE MET WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, MARINA OPERATORS.

IN FACT, THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS PRESENT DURING SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS.

SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS ALL DONE, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY.

I NEVER SAID THAT THERE WAS AN INTENT OF, UH, TO DEFRAUD.

I SIMPLY SAID THAT, THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION.

WE, THE CITY HAS ITS INTERPRETATION THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT WE THINK WAS OWED AND WHAT WAS PAID.

THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

UM, WE DON'T NEED TO, I THINK, TO, TO GO INTO ANY OF THE, THE DETAILS.

THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DECIDE GOING FORWARD.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO, YOU GONNA HANDLE THAT DISCREPANCY? MI MR. UM, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, HAVE YOU WRITTEN, EXCUSE ME, HAVE YOU READ THROUGH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT ON, UH, FOR THE TEX? UH, NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT? NO.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS SENT TO MY ATTENTION.

I, I'M, I'M AWARE OF IT, BUT I, I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT.

OF WHAT IS OWED AND, AND SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS POSSIBLE RENEGOTIATION OF A LEASE.

UM, LOOK, I, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA BE, I'M TRYING TO BE VERY NICE HERE, BUT WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR GENERAL AUDIT THAT TOOK A YEAR AND A HALF.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, APPARENTLY THAT IS OTAS, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER HASN'T EVEN READ THE REPORT.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY HASN'T HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF POSSIBLY A NEW LEASE.

SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MESSAGE TO CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S GET IT TOGETHER AND, AND LET'S MAKE THIS A PRIORITY, BECAUSE I WANT TO GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF,

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MR. CITY TURN, UH, SORRY.

COMMISSIONER BADDA, AFTER THE, UM, QUICKLY SURE.

HOW DOES THIS GET RECTIFIED? WE HAVE ONE SIDE SAYING X, ANOTHER SIDE SAYING, Y WHAT IS THE PATH OF RESOLUTION? OH, AND I DO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT, THE REPORT WAS ISSUED APRIL 17TH.

I APOLOGIZE THAT I HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS YET, BUT I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY FROM APRIL 23RD UP UNTIL JUST THIS PAST SUNDAY.

UM, BUT I WILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OF YOU, UM, AND WITH THE CITY MANAGER SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE AN APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION.

'CAUSE AS WE'VE HEARD, THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES.

I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS LEASE HAS BEEN AUDITED.

SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT THERE MAY BE DIFFERENCES OF INTERPRETATION ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE LEASE, UM, IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS FORWARD IS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES AND, UH, WITH THE MANAGER.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA SAY TO US SIDE ONE SAYS X SIDE TWO SAYS Y WHAT DIRECTION YOU WANT TO TAKE.

WHAT ARE THOSE? WHAT WHAT IS OUR, I WANT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO PROCEED, AND I MEAN, MR. GRECO'S CLIENT HAS MADE CLEAR THAT THEY ARE COM THEY ARE IN COMPLETE DISAGREEMENT.

NOW, ANOTHER PATH IS TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND AS PART OF NEGOTIATIONS FOR A NEW LEASE, IF THAT IS THE WAY THAT, UH, THE CITY WISHES TO MOVE, WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES, PERHAPS RECEIVE SOME PAYMENT FOR THE AMOUNTS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE, ARE OWED, AND ALSO TAKE MEASURES TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE LEASE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER A CERTAIN WAY FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE.

A LOT OF PATHS.

PART OF IT DEPENDS ON WHAT DIRECTION THE COMMISSION WISHES TO TAKE IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN NEGOTIATIONS TO EXTEND THE LEASE.

UM, LAST TIME THAT I HEARD FROM MR. GRECO, THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN DOING A SHORT-TERM EXTENSION.

I THINK THE FOCUS WAS ON LONG-TERM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CHANGED.

UM, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.

I CAN, I CAN RESPOND SEEN FOR, I CAN RESPOND, I CAN RESPOND BRIEFLY, AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY.

I THINK THAT THE ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF PUSHING ALL OF THIS OVER THE YEARS IS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS SUBSTANDARD.

YOU KNOW, THIS LEASE GOES BACK TO A, A BUILDING FROM THE EARLY EIGHTIES DOESN'T, ISN'T REALLY COMMENSURATE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, REQUIRES A LOT OF UPGRADES.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT SUNTEC WANTS TO MAKE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO DOING, INCLUDING UPGRADING THE BAY WALK, UPGRADING THE BUILDING, A POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS PROBABLY NOT RIPE FOR 2025.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN A, A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE EXTENDED PERIOD OF THAT TIME SINCE 2019.

BUT I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THIS, THAT THIS ALLEGED DISCREPANCY THAT IS A PRODUCT OF THIS AUDIT PRIOR TO THIS YEAR, EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE 1983, THIS IS HOW IT'S BEEN DONE.

BUT IT LITERALLY IS ON LIKE DOT MATRIX, LIKE MICROFICHE 1983.

BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S THE RIGHT THING, RIGHT? NO, BUT IT KIND, IT KIND OF DOES.

SO LET ME, I'M, I'M NOT, AND, AND, AND, AND IF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT JUST THE FACT THAT IT IS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, I THINK WE HAVE EVEN MORE OF A STANDARD OR, OR A PROTECTION AGAINST THAT SORT OF ARGUMENT WHERE, SO I DISAGREE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DONE, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE OWED THAT MONEY.

SO I I, I'M NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO THE LEGALITIES OF IT, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT OUR POSITION STRONGLY DISAGREES WITH THAT POSITION.

I'LL JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS THAT.

SO, AND I, YOU MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.

I ENCOURAGE AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO NOT ONLY READ THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT, BUT TO ALSO READ THE 10 PAGE RESPONSE, WHICH IS VERY SPECIFIC.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, I THINK IT DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING EACH ONE OF THE ISSUES IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, NOT JUST IN LEGALESE.

'CAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO QUIN EMANUEL, I THINK THEY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB IN BREAKING DOWN WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S FINDINGS WERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOSPEL ALL DUE, ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. CINO, WHO I'VE WORKED WITH SINCE THE LATE NINETIES.

OKAY? WE GO BACK A LONG WAY.

WE GET ALONG VERY WELL, BUT WE JUST HAVE A, IT'S NOT JUST A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF POSITION, AND WE WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO HAVING A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A PATH TO DOING THAT, AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND I DO AGREE WITH ONE THING THAT MR. CINO SAID.

WHEN YOU'RE DEALING, THIS LEASE IS SO OLD, IT'S ON MICROFICHE.

SOME OF YOU DON'T EVEN PROBABLY KNOW WHAT MICROFICHE IS.

I KNOW TANYA DOES, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, OH, WHATEVER, ME TOO.

I'M TURNING 50 THIS YEAR.

RELAX.

SO, UM,

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LIKE THE PAPERS AREN'T EVEN STRAIGHT WHEN YOU SEE THE, THE, THE COPIES, THAT'S HOW OLD IT IS.

AND BY THE WAY, IT'S BEEN AMENDED SEVERAL TIMES.

THIS IS NOT LIKE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE APPENDICES TO THIS OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING, INCLUDING WHEN SUNTEC TOOK OVER THE LEASE IN LIKE BEFORE, RIGHT BEFORE 2020.

SO THERE IS A HISTORY OF THIS.

THIS IS NOT NEW.

THERE'S NO HIDE THE BALL.

HOW THE ONLY, PROBABLY ONLY THE ONLY NEW THING IS THE PARKING PART OF IT.

AND THE PARKING PART OF IT WAS A PRODUCT OF A, UH, NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO MONETIZE THE PARKING.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.

SO MIKE, I, I DON'T, WE WANNA WORK, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE, THE, THE TOPIC.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, AND, AND, AND WHAT, I GUESS WE SHOULD KEEP THIS IN COMMITTEE.

SO BORROWING FROM THE TRIAL SCENE, A FEW GOOD MEN, NOT ONLY DO YOU OBJECT, YOU STRENUOUSLY OBJECT.

YES, I STRENUOUSLY OBJECT.

COMMISSIONER BOT, JUST, UM, RON, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHAT IS THE, I MEAN, WE ONLY GOT THE MEMO THIS MORNING.

UM, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY? OR LIZ TO KEEP IT ALIVE? IT WAS, IT WAS, THIS WAS, THIS WAS TO THE, THE ITEM NEEDED TO COME BACK ONTO COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND SINCE LIKE 2024.

MIKE, MIKE, YOU ANSWER TO LIZ NOW.

GOOD TO KNOW.

LIZ IS LIKE, OFTEN SHE WAS, LISTEN, LIZ IS A ROCKSTAR, RIGHT? SHE WAS STILL SITTING, BUT, BUT IT WAS JUST A, IT WAS A TECHNIC, IF I MAY, IT WAS A TECHNICAL ITEM IN THE, IN THE SENSE THAT IT HAD FINE MET ITS SIX MONTH THRESHOLD WOULD'VE FALLEN OFF.

AND WOULD, HAD IT BEEN REINTRODUCED.

UM, OKAY.

AND, AND, UH, TO, TO DISCUSS THE, THE OIG REPORTER, OR AT LEAST BRING IT TO LIGHT.

SO, SO IF WE WOULD HEAR THE ITEM HEARD, AND IT, IF I'M HEARING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE, IS THIS, UH, TO RETURN? UM, MAYBE IT'S MORE ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S BASIS TO BRING, BRING, TO RETURN IT AT APPROPRIATE TIME, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR.

SEVEN AND N NB 13, UM, WHILE OUR TEAM'S COMING UP AND MR. CFO HAD INTRODUCED THAT, UH, I, I THINK THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST CRITICAL ITEMS THAT WE CAN HEAR WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE NEW DIRECTION AND IDENTITY FOR OUR CITY.

SO WE'LL SHOW IT THE ITEM HEARD AND RETURN AT APPROPRIATE TIME BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATION.

UH, IF WE COULD HEAR, UH, B

[OB 7. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT UPDATE: STEPS TAKEN TO IMPROVE BUSINESS RETENTION AND ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS]

WE HAVE ALL COLLECTIVELY, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, UM, TAKEN TREMENDOUS STRIDES FOR SPRING BREAK AND 52 WEEKS A YEAR FOR OUR CITY, AND COLLECTIVELY SAID, WHO WE DON'T WANT TO BE.

WE'VE DONE THAT PART.

WE NEED TO PUT OUR FLAG IN THE GROUND OR IN THE SAND AND SAY WHO WE DO WANT TO BE.

AND I THINK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, ATTRACTING BUSINESSES TO MIAMI BEACH IS A CRITICAL PATH FORWARD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PROGRAM OUR WAY OUT OF SPRING BREAK AND FIND EVENTS FOR THIS.

WE STRUCTURALLY CHANGE OUR ECONOMY, WHO WE ARE AS A CITY, UH, THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF AIRLINE STOCKS, WHAT THEY'VE DONE OVER THE PA COURSE OF THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THAT SHOWS THE EXPECTATION FOR WANING INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC TRAVEL.

SO IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO TAKE EVEN FURTHER STEPS TO REALLY DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY AWAY FROM A DANGEROUS CONCENTRATION HOSPITALITY.

SO, MR. CFO, LET ME TURN THIS OVER TO YOU, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, TEE THIS UP FURTHER.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, OB SEVEN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT UPDATE STEPS TAKEN TO IMPROVE BUSINESS RETENTION AND ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS OB SEVEN AND MB

[NB 13. DISCUSS POSSIBLE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES TO THE CITY AND EXPAND EXISTING PROGRAMS.]

13, DISCUSS POSSIBLE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES TO THE CITY AND EXPAND EXISTING PROGRAMS. AND B 13.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HEATHER SHAW, UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I ADDED IN ALL OF THE ADVANTAGES AND CHALLENGES AND A RECOMMENDATION ON EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS. SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, SOME OF THEM NEED A LITTLE TWEAKING.

YOU GOT, OR GOOD AFTERNOON ACTUALLY TO EVERYONE.

I'M GONNA GIVE MY APOLOGIES.

I AM FIGHTING A COLD, SO IF I AM COMING OFF A LITTLE RUSTIC OR YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL REPEAT.

UM, AS THE, UM, AS MY COLLEAGUE CFO JUST MENTIONED, UM, WE HAVE SUBMITTED, UM, TWO MEMOS OUTLINING.

ONE IS OUTLINING ALL THE THINGS, THINGS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS, IS CURRENTLY DOING IN TERMS OF, UM, ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESSES AS WELL AS RETAINING BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE A HOST OF PROGRAMS AND, UM, MARKETING CAMPAIGNS THAT WE ARE DOING.

WE ARE ALSO, UM, COLLABORATING WITH LEVERAGING THE CONVENTION CENTER AND OTHER PARTNERS AND, AND STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE CITY TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, AS THE COMMISSIONER JUST MENTIONED, TO DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY BY ATTRACTING MORE TECH COMPANIES AND FINANCIAL SERVICES COMPANIES.

WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE A HOST OF INCENTIVES AND GRANT PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY ARE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL IN, IN THE SECOND MEMO THAT, UH, THAT IS SUBMITTED UNDER MB 13, YOU SEE ALL OF OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAMS.

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THIS IS SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE ALWAYS CONSTANTLY MOVING FORWARD, NOT BEING STAGNANT WITH OUR PROGRAMS AND DOING WHAT WE CAN AND STAYING ON TOP OF THE DATA.

UH, GI HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL.

THANK YOU, HEATHER.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO.

THE ONE THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME IS HERE I WANT TO BE BOLD, RIGHT? I WANT TO MAKE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL HEADLINES AND, AND SAY, MIAMI BEACH IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE ARE PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS, AND WE ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ATTRACT CERTAIN BUSINESSES.

I, I'LL BE HONEST, WHEN I SAW, UH, FC BARCELONA RELOCATING THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS TO DOWNTOWN MIAMI, I WAS HAPPY FOR OUR REGION.

THAT PHYSICALLY HURT ME THAT THOSE THINGS AREN'T COMING TO MIAMI BEACH, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE SO PRIMED FOR THAT.

BUT THEN I LOOKED AT THE INCENTIVES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, AND THEY ARE WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IN MIAMI BEACH.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE SOME, UH, RESEARCH ANALYSIS, AND WHILE WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME INCENTIVES, I WORKED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITH, UH, WITH AN EXECUTIVE TEAM TO SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO RELOCATE THEIR BUSINESSES HERE.

AND I KNEW THAT WE HAD INCENTIVES IN PLACE.

I I DIDN'T KNOW THE TECHNICALITIES OF THEM, AND THEY ASKED, AND I, I LOOKED THEM UP.

I, I REQUESTED THE INFORMATION FROM YOU.

AND, UM, I WAS ACTUALLY DEBATING WHETHER TO TELL THEM WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY OFFER FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR JOB CREATION, BECAUSE THE NUMBER, I WAS ALMOST EMBARRASSED TO SAY, RIGHT? WE OFFER $600 PER EMPLOYEE FOR THE FIRST 50 JOBS AND $400 PER EMPLOYEE FOR JOBS, 51 THROUGH SIX, UH, 100 WITH A $60,000 MAX PER COMPANY.

UH, I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH THROUGH, IT'S CALLED SISTER CITIES RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS.

I'D LOVE TO SEE OUR REGION PROSPER.

I CARE ABOUT MIAMI BEACH, RIGHT? SO WE NEED A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

UM, BOCA, THEY OFFER UP TO $10,000 PER EMPLOYEE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $500,000.

UH, BROWARD COUNTY, THEY OFFER $2,000 PER EMPLOYEE UP TO $200,000 PER COMPANY.

UH, PASCO COUNTY, UH, $3,000, UH, PER JOB CREATED.

IF IT'S 125% OF ANNUAL WAGES.

UH, BUT THEY GO UPWARDS TO $5,000, UH, PER JOB CREATED.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, I CAN, UH, NAME THOSE NU YOU KNOW, NAME SIMILAR NUMBERS FROM OTHER CITIES, CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE, $3,000 PER JOB, DEPENDING ON THE WAGE LEVEL, WEST PALM BEACH, $2,000 PER JOB, UH, DEPENDING IF IT'S, UH, AT A WAGE LEVEL, MANATEE COUNTY, 3000 TO $6,000 PER JOB.

I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US FOR DIVERSIFYING OUR ECONOMY TO SAYING NOT ONLY WHO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, BUT WHO WE'RE GOING TO BE TO REALLY ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES TO COME HERE TO RELOCATE THEIR REGIONAL, THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

WE HAVE NEW OFFICE SPACE THAT'S COMING ONLINE.

THOSE ARE WAYS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON EVENTS OR SPRING BREAK OR ACTIVATIONS.

THOSE ARE STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT WE CAN MAKE TO OUR ECONOMY.

UM, THE TIME TO DO IT WAS YESTERDAY.

THE NEXT BEST TIME TO DO IT IS NOW.

SO, UH, I KNOW AS PART OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION IN THE MEMO WAS, UM, ENHANCING, UH, AND EVALUATING SOME OF THESE MEASURES, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE US START WITH THE, UM, FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR NEW JOB CREATION.

AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FINE TUNE THE DETAILS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT I WANT THOSE HEADLINES TO SAY, MIAMI BEACH IS NOW LEADING OUR REGION IN THE INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE DOING TO ATTRACT HIGH PAYING, HIGH WAGE JOBS TO MIAMI BEACH, RIGHT? SO FOR A COMPANY THAT'S WILLING TO RELOCATE HERE, HIRE OUR RESIDENTS, EXPAND OUR WORKFORCE, DIVERSIFY OUR ECONOMY, THERE IS A TANGIBLE ROI THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET ON THIS.

I WAS JUST RUNNING SOME LIKE, FUN BACK OF THE ENVELOPE ANALYSIS AND JUST ME BEING IN MY OFFICE OVER IN BRICKELL, YOU'RE SPENDING $25 IN LUNCH, AND THEN MY GYM MEMBERSHIP IS OVER THERE, AND THEN YOU GO OUT FOR A HAPPY HOUR AND THEN YOU GO OUT FOR DINNER.

SO THE TYPES OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT ACCOMPANIES JOBS COMING HERE, THAT IS HOW WE FIX LINCOLN ROAD.

THAT IS HOW WE FIX OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK DOWN LINCOLN ROAD AT NOONTIME ON A WEDNESDAY, WHO'S THERE? WHO'S THERE? BUT IF WE BRING COMPANIES HERE, IF WE BRING JOBS HERE, THOSE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE THE BENEFACTORS OF THAT, RIGHT? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VACANCIES, THE COMMERCIAL VACANCIES, WE NEED TO FIND A PRODUCT THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO GO OUT AND ATTRACT HIGH PAYING HIGH WAGE JOBS.

AND TO DO SO, WE NEED TO HAVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THAT ARE EITHER AT WORST IN LINE WHAT I WOULD PREFER ABOVE WHAT OUR REGIONAL COMPETITORS ARE HAVING.

SO, UH, LET ME HAND THAT OVER.

SEE,

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UH, I THINK, UH, THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF SAID THE MAYOR MAY, UH, BE CALLING IN AS WELL.

UM, THIS IS, UH, HIS ITEM LEADING, HELPING TO LEAD THE WAY ON THIS.

OKAY, IF I MAY, I, I LOVE THIS.

I THINK, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DIVERSIFY AWAY FROM TOURISM FOR THE, THE REASONS YOU, UM, YOU SPELLED OUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA CHANGE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AT A MINIMUM.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A PERCEPTION THAT YOU SHOULD FEEL HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO CALL MIAMI BEACH YOUR HOME FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BUSINESS.

BUT IT HAS HARDSHIPS.

IT'S THE END OF LINE FOR COMMUTING.

IT'S EXPENSIVE TO LIVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOT COMPLICATIONS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE WHERE LIKE PASCO COUNTY OR SOME OTHER AREAS MIGHT HAVE REALLY HIGH INCENTIVES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE NEARLY AS MUCH AS WHAT WE DO HAVE TO OFFER.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE SOME COMPLICATING FACTORS THAT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO OPEN BUSINESSES HERE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S, THAT WASN'T NECESSARY, UM, 15, 20, 25 YEARS AGO TO THE DEGREE THAT IT IS NOW.

BUT, UM, WITH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO HAVE DIGITAL OFFICES AND SMALLER FOOTPRINTS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE WORKING FROM ALL KINDS OF PLACES AND HAVING A SMALLER HOME OFFICE.

I, I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO COME HERE FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE US UNIQUE AND WONDERFUL, AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE COMPLICATING FACTORS THAT WE ARE HELPING TO MITIGATE TO GET THEM SET UP.

AND THEN THEY WILL, THEY'LL COME AND REALIZE HOW AWESOME IT IS AND IT'S WORTH A HEADACHE.

SO I'M ALL IN ON THIS, MR. SWAR.

ME TOO.

UM, HEATHER, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, THE BEST PA UH, PATHWAY FORWARD IS HERE? I THINK, UH, IT'D BE A BIT PREMATURE TO, UM, SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, TO QUANTIFY WHAT THESE INCENTIVES ARE GOING TO BE.

BUT I'D BE HONORED TO WORK, UH, TOGETHER WITH YOU AND WHEN WE HAVE STEVEN COME ON BOARD, BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO GET IN THE WAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HOLD THIS UP.

I WANNA REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, MAKING MIAMI BEACH THE EPICENTER FOR WHERE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES ARE, ARE GOING TO COME AND, UH, IN SANITIZE THEM HIRING OUR RESIDENTIAL POPULATION FOR SOME OF THESE HIGH PAYING JOBS, RIGHT? AND, AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT, UH, THESE PROGRAMS, RICK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WE CAN ALLOCATE MONEY, WE CAN ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS, BUT IT'S ONLY UTILIZED IF THESE COMPANIES ACTUALLY MOVE HERE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

SO IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE SAYING, OH, OKAY, HERE'S, UH, $200,000 PER COMPANY.

WE'RE ONLY SPENDING THAT MONEY IF WE GET SOMETHING GREAT IN RETURN, RIGHT? WE'RE ONLY GIVING $200,000 TO SOME COMPANY IF THEY HIRE A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AT A WAGE OF 125% OF OUR MEDIAN INCOME.

AND THINK ABOUT ALL THAT, UH, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT, THAT KICKS OFF.

SO THIS PROVIDES A VERY REAL AND TANGIBLE ROI FOR ANY DOLLAR THAT'S BEING SPENT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE STRUCTURALLY CHANGING OUR ECONOMY.

NOTHING TO CORRECT.

KEEP IT THAT WAY, RICK.

GOOD JOB, .

LET'S HEAR, UH, OB FIVE, THE BYRON CARL.

UM, SO LET'S, UH, CITY OPENING AND CONTINUE WHERE LET'S WORK IN THE NEXT MONTH.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR THIS NEXT MONTH.

AND LET'S ACTUALLY QUANTIFY, QUANTIFY, UH, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE.

I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE, UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS LIKE, UH, PERMIT FAST TRACKING.

UM, ONE THING THAT I DID SEE A LOT OF OTHER AREAS HAVE IS FACADE IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE THAT AS WELL.

UM, I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR JOB CREATION, BUT IF THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THAT YOU WANT YOU AND YOUR TEAM WANNA WORK ON AS WELL.

AND THEN TO, UH, TRY AND QUANTIFY WHAT THOSE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES ARE.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER SO WE CAN SHOW THE ITEM, UH, WAS, WAS HEARD AND TO, UH, TO RETURN WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN TO IMPLEMENT, UH, ENHANCED BUSINESS ATTRACTION PROGRAMS. YES.

[OB 5. DISCUSS THE BYRON CARLYLE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT AS IT PERTAINS TO UNIT SIZE AND AFFORDABILITY.]

LET'S SEE HERE.

UH, OB FIVE DISCUSSED THE BY AND CARLISLE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT AS IT PERTAINS TO UNIT SIZE AND AFFORDABILITY.

OB FIVE, RON, YOUR, RON, YOUR MIC.

REQUIREMENT FOR NO MICRO UNITS AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND THE OVERALL PRICE CONSIDERATIONS.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, THE BYRON CARL GEO BOND PROJECT IS BOTH CULTURAL ART CENTER AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.

THE STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO SOLIDIFY THE CENTER PROGRAMMING WHILE INVESTIGATING THE, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT TO DRIVE TOWARD COMPLETION OF AN RFP.

TODAY'S DISCUSSION CENTERS AROUND THE FINDINGS OF THE UNIT SIZES AFFORDABILITY, CONSIDERING THE

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UM, AND, UM, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DANIEL URI, HAS ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

DANIEL URI, FACILITIES AND FLEET HERE.

SPEAK ON THE BYRON AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT, UH, AT THIS CROSSROAD.

SO WE'VE RECEIVED THE FINAL, UH, REPORT FROM A MS ON THE CULTURAL CENTER, AND IT LOOKS VERY PROMISING.

AND AT THE JANUARY, UH, FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING IT, THE TOPIC CAME UP OF THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE UNIT SIZE OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.

NOW, THAT HASN'T BEEN REALLY OUR AREA OF FOCUS AS OF YET TO NOW IT WAS GETTING THE CULTURAL CENTER RIGHT, UH, OPTIMIZING THE SPACE FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS SO THAT WE HAVE A USEFUL CULTURAL CENTER THAT'S GONNA ACTIVATE THAT CORRIDOR OVER 300, 350 DAYS A WEEK, UH, EXCUSE ME, A YEAR.

UH, THE, OUR FOCUS TURNED NOW TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.

UH, A LARGE COMPONENT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SUCCESS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, NOT JUST FOR THE EFFECT IT HAS ON OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSING, BUT THE POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO SUBSIDIZE THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMMING OF THE CULTURAL CENTER.

SO IT IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE.

IT COULD BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT FEEDS ITSELF AND THEREFORE RAISES AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE SAYING GOES, THE RISING TIDE, UH, LIFTS ALL BOATS.

SO, UH, MY FINDINGS, AND, AND A LOT OF THIS CONCERNS STEMMED FROM THE ANMAR, UH, PROJECT AT COLLINS PARK.

THE PERCEPTION IS THAT THE, THE RENTS ARE TOO HIGH, THE UNITS ARE TOO SMALL.

AND WHEN I COMPARED IT VERY ANECDOTALLY TO WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE OUT IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, UH, LOOKING AT DORAL, LOOKING AT MIAMI RIVER, LOOKING AT SOUTH MIAMI, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS, UH, AT COLLINS PARK.

LOOKING AT SOUTH DADE IT, I DID FIND THAT COLLINS PARK, THE, THE AN MR PROJECT IS PRICED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE.

UM, AND THE UNIT SIZES FOR THE STUDIOS, THEY'RE ON PAR.

THE UNIT SIZES FOR THE ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE WELL WITHIN THE HUD REGULATIONS SET FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.

SO WHY IS IT, WHY IS IT HIGHER? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHY IS IT HIGHER? UH, BECAUSE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT DEAL, THERE WERE NO RESTRICTIONS PUT ON FURTHER RESTRICTIONS OTHER THAN THE HUD REQUIREMENTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UH, IT WAS DEFINED AS AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WORKFORCE HOUSING ACTUALLY CAN GO UP TO 140, UH, A MI.

SO RIGHT NOW AN MR IS ACTUALLY AT 120 A MI, SO THEY'RE NOT AS HIGH AS THEY CAN GO.

UH, HOWEVER THEY ARE WITHIN, JUST WITHIN THE HUD WHAT HUD STIPULATES IS WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD QUALIFY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THEREFORE WORKFORCE HOUSING CREDITS.

SO, AND WAS THIS BUILDING IN COLLINS PARKS SMALLER THAN THE OTHER ONES? KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? SO WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RESTRAINED OURSELVES BECAUSE WE WANTED THE HEIGHT AND THE DENSITY TO BE IN CONTEXT WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO PROBABLY LEFT US LESS FLEXIBILITY, UH, COULDN'T BE AS DENSE, IT COULDN'T BE AS TALL.

UM, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY EXTEND WITH SOME OF THE LOWER AFFORDABILITY OPTIONS.

THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS.

UH, UNIT SIZES, I'M SORRY, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS WAS COMPARABLE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HEIGHT AND FAR, UH, BUT THESE ARE ALL THE, THE DETAILS THAT ENCOMPASSED THE DOUBLE THE DEVILS, RIGHT? AS WE SIT ACROSS, AS CITY STAFF SITS ACROSS FROM DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR LAWYERS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR FINANCE PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, THIS IS WHAT WORKS FOR US.

AND WE AS A CITY HAVE IN FRONT OF US WHAT WE HAVE DEFINED SO FAR.

AND ON THIS PROJECT, WHAT WE'VE DEFINED SO FAR IS THE CULTURAL CENTER.

SO WHAT I PROPOSE IS IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO DISCUSS, UH, FURTHER REGULATING EITHER THE MAXIMUM RENT OR THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE, THAT WE EXPLORE THOSE LEVERS WITHIN THE PROJECT TO OPTIMIZE, UH, THE, THE REVENUE ON THE BACKEND SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE DEAL THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.

IF WE ASK FOR TOO MUCH, THIS PROJECT COULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO A FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER.

IF WE ASK FOR TOO LITTLE, WE'RE LEAVING VALUE ON THE TABLE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS THE, THE PERSON IN FROM THE CITY MOVING THIS PROJECT ALONG, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO DO.

UM, SO I, I, I HAVE PUT FORTH A PROPOSAL FROM

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A MS IN CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOPIC WITH A MS, UH, STEVEN WOLF, WHO WAS THE PRINCIPAL AT A MS, SAID, CAN I BRING SOMEBODY TO YOUR ATTENTION? CAN, ARE YOU WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION? AND HE BROUGHT A COMPANY OUT OF NEW YORK, UH, DENIM WOLF, WHO SPECIALIZES IN WORKING WITH NON-PROFITS ON REAL ESTATE DEALS.

SO THEY ARE THE PROS FROM DOVER THAT COME, THAT COME IN AND LEND THE EXPERTISE TO NONPROFITS WITH VERY VALUABLE REAL ESTATE ASSETS THAT ARE LOOKING TO ENTER INTO P THREES TO OPTIMIZE THE RETURN ON THOSE ASSETS.

SO THAT'S DENIM WOLF'S, UH, PROPOSAL THROUGH A MS. THE OTHER HALF OF THIS IS IF WE AS A CITY SAY WE WANT TO MAKE THESE UNITS ATTAINABLE, BOTTOM LINE, THEN THERE MAY BE, UH, A COURSE OF ACTION WHERE INSTEAD OF ENTERING INTO A DEVELOPMENT DEAL WITH A FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER, WE CAN JUST PAY THEM A DEVELOPMENT FEE, BUT THE FINANCES WOULD CHANGE.

MM-HMM.

SO AT THAT POINT, THE CITY MAY HAVE TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL FINANCING.

WE MAY ENGAGE, UH, A NONPROFIT, WHICH, THE NONPROFIT THAT A MS SUGGESTED WE LOOK AT FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CULTURAL CENTER IS FRIENDS OF THE BYRON.

SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO COME INTO PLAY FOR ADDITIONAL FINANCING.

SO AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL FROM A MS, THERE'S ALSO A FINANCIAL CONSULTANT, HILLTOP SECURITIES, THAT CAN LOOK AT ALL EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKING FOR.

SO OUR VALUES IN THIS PROJECT, LOOK AT ALL OF THE PIECES WE HAVE TO PLAY, AND THEN ORGANIZE 'EM IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN TELL US, LOOK, THIS IS THE CAPITAL THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO BRING IN.

THESE ARE YOUR OPTIONS FOR BRINGING IN THE CAPITAL.

THIS IS YOUR OPTION FOR WHO BRINGS IN THAT CAPITAL.

SO WE COULD DO A TRUE P THREE WITH A NONPROFIT, HIRE A DEVELOPER FOR A DEVELOPER FEE, SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE BEAUTIFUL CULTURAL CENTER WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, HAVE A NICE DAY.

UH, OR WE CAN ENTER INTO A DESIGN FINANCE BUILD AGREEMENT LIKE WE DID AT COLLINS PARK, BUT WE WOULD BE ARMED WITH A, A REALISTIC PICTURE OF WHAT WE CAN ASK FOR.

UH, ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH AND THEREFORE MAKING IT COST PROHIBITIVE? OR ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO LITTLE AND LEAVING VALUE ON THE TABLE? AM I BEING SIMPLISTIC IN THINKING THAT THERE'S A INVERSE CORRELATION BETWEEN, UH, LOW OR HIGHER A MI RESTRICTIONS AND THE AMOUNT THE CITY WILL ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE? UH, THERE IS MORE PROFITABILITY IN THE HIGHER A MI AND THEREFORE IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, AND THEREFORE, IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE CUT THE DEAL AND TO, TO WHO THE CITY WOULD BE SUBSIDIZING.

I, IF WE LEFT THE DEVELOPERS TO THEIR OWN DEVICES, THEY WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY CUT A DEAL THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE, BUT NOT THE CULTURAL CENTER.

SO THE REPORT FROM, FROM A MS RIGHT NOW SHOWS THAT THE CULTURAL CENTER IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS AS IT RAMPS UP, WOULD BE OPERATING AT A DEFICIENCY OF ABOUT $600,000 A YEAR.

SO OUR OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO CREATE THIS DEAL SO THAT, THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING, PARTICULARLY AS THE BOND GETS PAID DOWN, THERE ARE MORE NET REVENUES ON THE BACK END THAT CAN BE USED FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMMING, FREE CLASSES, FREE EVENTS, LOWER TICKET PRICES, UH, SUBSIDIZED RENT.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN ACTUALLY NOT HAVE TO RAISE THE RENT AS FAST AS THE MARKET WOULD, WOULD DICTATE.

AND, AND I THINK I'M GOING TO BE HESITANT IN TRYING TO REDEFINE HUD'S GUIDELINES FOR WHAT CONSTITUTES AFFORDABILITY.

I KNOW WE ALL PICK UP FACEBOOK AND, AND READ, OH MY GOSH, THE, THOSE ARE THE RENTS AT, UH, COLLINS PARK THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE.

WELL, EVERYBODY COULD HAVE THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF THAT, RIGHT? I I CAN, I CAN LOOK AT RENTS ANYWHERE AND SAY, THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE, BUT IF SOMEBODY'S PAYING THEM, THEY'RE AFFORDABLE TO SOMEBODY.

AND, UM, IF HUD IS DEFINING THOSE A MI GUIDELINES FOR AFFORDABILITY, I'M GOING TO BE HESITANT TO TRY AND REDEFINE THAT, ESPECIALLY THE LOWER THAT WE TRY AND GUIDE THAT THE MORE THE CITY IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE COMMISSIONER BOB.

GENERATES THE MOST SECURITY FOR THE PROJECT, THE MOST PROFITABILITY IN TERMS OF GETTING RENTS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE OPERATING COSTS FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS AND BEING THE MOST, UM, USEFUL TO PROVIDE A HEALTHY BALANCE MIX OF WORKFORCE, ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR NORTH BEACH.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE, UM, WANTS TO REDEFINE WHAT HUD SETS AS THE GUIDELINES.

I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO, UNLIKE HOW WE HANDLED IT WITH COLLINS PARK, LEARN FROM THAT EXPERIENCE AND ENGAGE WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS AN EXPERT IN THIS, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RUBIK'S CUBE OF HOW MANY UNITS WE CAN HAVE AT WHAT SIZE AND AT WHAT PRICE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT GET THE MAXIMUM IMPACT WITH, YOU KNOW, 20, LET'S SAY 20 OF THE 80 UNITS, WHATEVER THEY ARE AT, UM, 1:25 AM I AND 20 AT THE LOWEST A MIA PERCENTAGE OF A MI.

AND THEN THERE'S A MIX IN THE MIDDLE.

AND I, WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE ON STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COMBINATION IS.

BUT BY, BY DOING THIS RESEARCH UPFRONT, WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THAT IDEAL MIX IS THAT

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AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL HERE.

UM, WE HAVE OPTIONS TO FUND THIS RESEARCH.

UM, ONE OF WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THROUGH THE NORTH BEACH, CRA, UM, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW, HEATHER, IS IT 5% OR 10% OF, OF THE 10%? 10.

I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR STAFF HAS THE EXPERTISE WITH REAL ESTATE, REAL ESTATE MARKET, UM, UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THE SOURCES FOR FUNDING FOR THESE.

10.

UM, 10% OF THE MINIMUM OF 10% OF THE, UM, THE NORTH BEACH CRA, UM, BUDGET NEEDS TO BE PUT TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A COST THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT.

WE HAVE MONEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE MONEY COMING IN EVEN THIS YEAR AS, AS PROJECTS IN NORTH BEACH GET, UM, YOU KNOW, START GETTING SOLD.

SO LET'S PUT THAT MONEY TO WORK, TO DO EXACTLY WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN NORTH BEACH.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS ITEM WITH THAT, UM, RECOMMENDATION WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO AND THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, TO CLARIFY BEYOND THE, JUST THE, THE A MI CAPACITY AND WHAT HUD SETS A, THIS FIRM WOULDN'T BE DICTATING TO US WHAT THE RENTS SHOULD BE, BUT THEY'LL A, ALLOW US TO KNOW THE MARGINS SO THAT IF WE DECIDE, HEY, LET'S KEEP IT AT FULL HUD, WE SEE THAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR IT, IT'S STILL GONNA SERVE ITS PURPOSE IN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, MARKET, THEN WE WOULD OPTIMIZE.

AND I THINK THE KEY WORD IS OPTIMIZE THE DEAL SO THAT THE CITY IS GETTING THE FULL VALUE OF ITS, YOU KNOW, $12 MILLION WORTH OF, UH, LAND, $30 MILLION WORTH OF CULTURAL CENTER AND POTENTIALLY UP TO $4 MILLION WORTH OF WORKFORCE HOUSING SUBSIDY.

SO I, IF THE MORE WE KNOW, THE BETTER DEAL WE CAN STRIKE WHEN WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH THESE DEVELOPERS.

WHEN DOES THIS BREAK AROUND ? I, I'M ON MY WAY OVER THERE NOW.

UM, THE, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

AND THIS, AND THIS STUDY IS GONNA HELP YOU TECHNICALLY OPTIMIZE WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT.

THAT IS WHAT DENIM WOLF DOES.

THEY, THEY WORK WITH NON-PROFITS AND HOW MUCH TO OPTIMIZE, HOW, UM, ALL OF IT IS ABOUT $190,000 WITH THE INTEGRATION BETWEEN A MS AND THE, AND DENIM WOLF TO UNDERSTAND THE DEAL WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE CULTURAL CENTER, AND THEN, UH, HILLTOP SECURITIES TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE CAPITAL STACK THAT WE WOULD NEED AND THE OPTIONS.

IF WE WERE TO SAY WE WANT TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT ON THE HIGHER A MI THIS WOULD, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS, WHICH OPENS MORE DOORS.

IF WE WERE TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT THIS AT, AT 120, WE WANT THIS TO AVERAGE 90 A MI, THEN THERE COULD BE 120% A MI UNITS, THERE COULD BE 80 A MI UNITS AND THE MIX TO ACHIEVE THAT 90 A MI, UM, AND THEY COULD TELL US HOW TO DO THIS.

THAT'S $190,000.

YES, I'M ALL FOR STUDYING, BUT BETWEEN ONE 60 AND ONE 90 IS WHAT THEY, THEY WOULD DO.

LOOK, I'M ALL FOR ARMING YOU GUYS WITH THE BEST AMMUNITION WHEN YOU TALK TO THESE DEVELOPERS AND MAKING THESE DEALS.

BUT WHY DOES IT COST SO MUCH? IT'S THREE FIRMS THAT WILL BE LOOKING.

ONE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN REAL ESTATE IN NEW YORK.

I THINK THEY'RE CHARGING, UH, ABOUT SIX $70,000 OF THIS.

AND AS PART OF THAT, THEY ALSO GIVE US THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE IN OUR RFP.

ARE, ARE THESE THREE FIRMS, DO THEY SERVE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS, OR IS THIS JUST THREE DIFFERENT, IT'S THE PERSPECTIVES.

THE THREE FIRMS ARE A MS WHO HAVE BEEN, UH, RIDING WITH US THE ENTIRE TIME OF THE CULTURAL CENTER.

AND EVERY ASPECT OF THIS HAS TO BE, IT.

IT'S A CULTURAL CENTER WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE DON'T WANNA INVERT THAT AND BE, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH A CULTURAL CENTER.

UH, SO THAT'S AM'S ROLE.

DENIM WOLF IS WHO STRUCTURES THE DEALS, WHO LOOKS AT MARKET RESEARCH, WHO WILL ACTUALLY, THEIR STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH DEVELOPERS WILL LET US KNOW WHO TO BEST TARGET TO BRING DEVELOPERS THAT ARE USED TO THIS.

UH, THEY WILL SAY, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL COME, BUT WE KNOW WHO IS IN THIS REALM AND WHO TO TARGET, WHO THE CITY CAN TARGET.

AND THEN HILLTOP SECURITIES IS THE FINANCE FIRM THAT WOULD LOOK AT THE CULTURAL CENTER, LOOK AT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT AND SAY, WITH UNDER THESE PARAMETERS, THESE ARE YOUR FINANCING OPTIONS.

YOU CAN'T FIND LIKE ONE CONSULTANT TO DO ALL THREE AND GET LIKE A PACKAGE DEAL.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, 160 TO 190,000 FOR A STUDIES.

IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT BE FUNDED FOR THE CRA, BUT THAT'S STILL MONEY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS OTHER THAN THE STUDY.

UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN DO? IS, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IN-HOUSE? I

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SO THESE ARE GRANTS.

THESE ARE, UH, TAX CREDITS.

WELL, WE HAVE A GRANT DIVISION IN OUR CITY.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN, THAN I THINK WHAT OUR GRANT, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR OUR GRANT DISPARAGE OUR GRANT, UH, DIVISION, BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY FEDERAL GRANTS FOR, UH, FOR HOUSING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

WE CAN, I JUST, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS SOMEONE TO COME IN TO ASSURE THAT WE ARE OPTIMIZING OUR HAND WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH DEVELOPERS.

WELL, WELL, HOW, LOOK, I'M, I'M NOT RULING IT OUT, BUT WHY DON'T WE SIT DOWN WITH DEVELOPERS FIRST, SEE WHAT PROPOSALS THEY GIVE US.

LET'S HEAR IT AT THE NEXT FINANCE MEETING.

AND IF WE THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY, UH, OUT OF RANGE TO, TO BE DEALT WITH, MAYBE WE'LL GO THROUGH WITH THE STUDY.

I I, I, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, $190,000 GO TO SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES THE STUDY.

BUT LET, LET'S, AND I THINK YOU EVEN MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE FIRMS, IT SAYS THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GIVE YOU SOME REFERENCES FOR DEVELOPERS.

LET'S JUST SEE IF ANY DEVELOPERS ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TO BEGIN WITH BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND MONEY ON SEEING WHAT CONTEXT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I LOOK, I, UM, IT'S UP TO MY COLLEAGUES, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND, AND, AND SEE, DO WE REALLY NEED TO FUND $190,000 FOR A STUDY TO JUST BE, BEGIN A NEGOTIATION? MAYBE WE JUST START THAT NOW.

LET'S SEE WHAT PROPOSALS WE GET AND, AND MAYBE WE'LL BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I THINK $190,000 WOULD BE BETTER USED FOR OTHER ISSUES IN NORTH BEACH, LIKE WATER QUALITY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I WAS GONNA SAY THIS SPECIFIC FUNDING FROM THE CRA HAS TO BE USED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND I'D RATHER SEE LIKE AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, UNIT IN WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH THAT $200,000 THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THREE DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS UNDERSTOOD, UH, THE TIMELINE FOR THAT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO FINISH, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER THE RFP, PUT OUT TO RFP AND THEN, UH, ENTERTAIN THOSE, THOSE PROPOSALS THAT CAME BACK, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND THEN POTENTIALLY GO INTO A REISSUE OF THE RFP.

UM, IT, IT MAY DELAY THIS FOR, YOU KNOW, 8, 10, 12 MONTHS.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD PUT OUT THERE IN, IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO, ESSENTIALLY TWO RFP PROCESSES IF WE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH THE FIRST ONE.

AND THE FIRST ONE, MY FEAR IS IN NOT DEFINING WHAT THE CITY WANTS OUTTA THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY HANDING OVER THIS PROPERTY TO A DEVELOPER TO THEN TELL US WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE US.

INSTEAD OF US DEMANDING, THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW, THIS LAND IS WORTH, THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS WORTH.

YOU'RE NOT IN THE BALLPARK.

AND THAT'S MY FEAR.

THAT'S THAT WE ARE NOT, WE SIT AT THE TABLE NOT PREPARED TO DRIVE A HARD BARGAIN WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS DEVELOPERS.

SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS RFP PROCESS, IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

MAYBE WE CAN EXPEDITE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT AROUND SIX MONTHS.

AND THEN IF WE GET PROPOSALS THAT AREN'T THE UNICORN, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK INTO THE RFP PROCESS.

SO WE'RE, YEAH.

BUT BUT WOULDN'T WE, LIKE, IF, WOULDN'T WE BE, UH, GETTING BOTH? I MEAN, AT, AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE, LET'S SAY WE SPEND THE, UH, THE, THE MONEY TO GET A, A STUDY AND THEN THE DEVELOPERS COME, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS SORT OF AMMUNITION, IT WOULD BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEVELOPERS COMING BEFORE US.

CORRECT.

AND ALL I'M SAYING IS, BEFORE WE SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY OFFER.

AND IF WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEN WE'LL GO TO, UM, UH, THE THREE FIRMS TO CONSULT OR, OR, OR ANY NUMBER OF THEM.

BASED ON OUR RESEARCH, WE KNOW THIS IS DOABLE.

UM, MAYBE WE ONLY NEED ONE AT, AT, AT, AT WHICH POINT, UM, TO, TO, TO, TO PROPERLY NEGOTIATE, I'M SORRY, ONE DEVELOPER OR ONE FIRM? ONE FIRM, YEAH.

JUST MR. BUFFET.

UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT APPROACH.

UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE WITH THE PRIOR ITERATIONS OF TRYING TO REDEVELOP THE BYRON CARLISLE, WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFICS OTHER THAN WE WANTED A, A, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER OF SOME SORT.

AND WE GOT, UH, TWO PROPOSALS, ONE OF WHICH WITHDREW, AND THE SECOND OF WHICH WAS AN UNFINISHED GRAY BOX WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT, NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MARKET VALUE HOUSING ON TOP OF IT.

UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PARAMETERS.

I MEAN, IF WE GO INTO AN RFP SAYING SPECIFICALLY,

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THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT.

GIVE US YOUR BEST DESIGN PRICE PROCESS FOR IT.

THAT IS A MUCH BETTER OUTCOME THAN, THIS IS GENERALLY WHAT YOU, WHAT WE WANT, TELL US HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT.

'CAUSE WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

WE'RE SAYING GENERALLY WE WANT SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WE'VE GOT A, A CULTURAL CENTER, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT GET ERODED IN PRIOR ITERATIONS OF THIS.

AND WE'VE, WE SAW IT GET ERODED DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT ERODED, UM, IN THE OUTCOME WITH THE, UM, THE AN MR PROJECT.

SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

I WILL ASK YOU THOUGH, THERE ARE THREE, I MEAN, SO A MS IS A CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE USING ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

SO PART OF THAT COST IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING THEM ANYHOW, RIGHT? NO, IT IS, UH, INTEGRATING THE FINDINGS FROM DENIM WOLF AND, UH, HILLTOP INTO THEIR REPORT.

TO MAKE SURE THAT, BUT SO THAT'S A SMALL COST.

THAT IS THE SMALLEST OF THE THREE.

AND HILLTOP IS THE ONE THAT SAYS, UM, HERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT SPACE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED.

NO, HILLTOP WOULD BE COMING FROM THE FINDINGS, TAKING THE FINDINGS THAT WE, THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, UH, DENI WOLF.

THEY WOULD ANALYZE HOW WE CAN BEST FINANCE THIS.

SO, OKAY.

SO, BUT IT, SO, BUT DENI WOLF IS THE ONE WHO GIVES US SORT OF THE TEMPLATE OF THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.

HERE'S, HERE'S, WE'RE PLAYING WITH THE LEVERS, AND YOU KNOW, BY ADJUSTING THESE, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN, AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHT NOW THE MOST PRESSING THING.

I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE A WAY TO COMPROMISE ON THIS WOULD BE TO, UM, WAIT ON THE FINANCIAL STACK PORTION OF THIS.

AND SEE IF THAT'S NEEDED.

ONCE WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY WANT WE WANT, AND WE PUT OUT AN RFP, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE SAYING, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

WE CAN, LET'S BID ON THAT.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS IF WE, UM, IF WE RUN INTO TROUBLE WITH THAT, AT THAT POINT, WE COULD ENGAGE A FINANCING EXPERT TO HELP US GET MORE LIKELY CANDIDATES.

WELL, WHAT THE CHAIR, WHY AREN'T WE DISCUSSING THAT NOW? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE DOING, WHY, WHY DON'T WE DISCUSS THAT? LIKE, NOW WHAT THIS IS, WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANT? WHAT DO WE WANNA SEE THERE? WELL, BUT, SO THE REASON WHY IT'S BACK TO US NOW IS 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ON THE DAY, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS IN COMMITTEE OR AT THE COMMISSION MEETING, BUT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION OF LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT MIX OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE MAXIMIZE THE SPACE AND THE RETURNS.

AND WE, WE DO THAT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

AND I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

OUR STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE TIMES WHERE YOU USE CRA MONEY TO GET THE BEST PROJECT POSSIBLE PROJECT PARAMETERS DEFINED, SO YOU CAN COME BACK WITH THE BEST PO POSSIBLE PROJECT.

I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF THIS WERE A $2 MILLION CONSULTING PROJECT THAT WAS GONNA TAKE TWO YEARS, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S UNDER $200,000 WITH A THREE AND WOULD BE LESS WITHOUT USING JUST TWO OF THE THREE.

TAKE A, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AT MOST.

AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD AND NOT JEOPARDIZE THE TIMEFRAME AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE ROUND OF, OH, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

THE, THE CASE WHEN WE SIT AND PUT OUT AN RFP WITH DEVELOPERS, THAT UNLESS WE UNDERSTAND THEIR WORLD, WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE.

WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS RIGHT.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T SAID IT IN A WHILE, BUT IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY MEASURE TWICE, ONCE ON THIS.

SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT I, THAT I MADE AGAIN.

SO, UM, I I, I WOULD, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO HAVE FAITH IN OUR STAFF TO GIVE US AT LEAST A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE, WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO US.

I, I WOULD YOU CONSIDER DEFERRING FOR A MONTH AND ALLOWING STAFF TO AT LEAST INDIVIDUALLY MEET WITH MYSELF AND, AND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, UM, TO SEE ARE THEY CAPABLE OF AT LEAST GIVING US A GENERAL IDEA WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPENSE A, A, A, UM, CONSULTANT TO TELL US WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AT, IN WHICH CASE THE THREE OF US MAY BE ABLE TO, TO SAY, YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

WE CAN NARROW DOWN OUR, I I OUR IDEA, WHICH MAY IN TURN LOWER THE COST OF THE, OF THE CONSULTING FEE.

I MEAN, I THINK THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE.

I KNOW I'M NOT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPERT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

NEITHER OF YOU ARE EITHER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT I'VE ASKED FOR THINGS TO GET DEFERRED AND, AND, AND GIVE MORE TIME, AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE ONE MONTH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA YIELD US RESULTS.

SO I, I DEFER, AND NO PUN INTENDED TO STAFF TO TELL ME, WILL A MONTH GIVE US ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW TODAY? I THINK AT MOST IT'S GONNA GIVE US A CHANCE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF SHARP KNIVES IN OUR DRAWER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I LEARNED AT A YOUNG AGE, DON'T TAKE A KNIFE TO A GUNFIGHT.

AND I FEEL THAT'S

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SO WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, I CAN ASK COLLEAGUES TO SEE WHO CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS AND, AND ADD INSIGHT.

UM, I JUST FEEL THAT HAVING CONVERS, AND ACTUALLY IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DENIM WOLF, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF YOU, IF IT GIVES YOU YEAH.

AN OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM.

UM, THESE ARE HEAVY HITTERS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TELL US, THIS IS EVERY DROP OF JUICE YOU CAN SQUEEZE FROM THIS, FROM THIS DEAL.

WHERE I FEEL THAT IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO, THERE'S ALWAYS PLACES TO HIDE, YOU KNOW, IN A DEAL.

AND I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE DON'T BRING THAT EXPERTISE ONLINE, WE'RE NOT GONNA OPTIMIZE THIS DEAL FOR THE CITY.

I JUST WANNA ADD, IF I MIGHT, THAT THE REASON WHY IT IS SO COMPLICATED IS BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T EXIST.

THIS IS A NEW MODEL IN THIS COUNTRY.

IT DOESN'T EXIST.

AND SO LET'S GET IT RIGHT.

LET'S USE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US, WHICH, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE HIRE OUTSIDE FOLKS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T ALL WEIGH IN, THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ANCILLARY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF WHO CAN LEND ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS.

BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHY.

IF WE ARE TRYING TO SET THE STANDARD FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL, WILL, UM, BE A MODEL FOR THE COUNTRY AND COULD BE SPECTACULAR AS ONE MORE THING THAT MIAMI BEACH IS DOING, FIRST IN THE NATION LEADING EDGE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE REALLY PROUD OF.

WHILE ALSO, BY THE WAY, CREATING AN ECONOMIC ENGINE IN NORTH BEACH AND ADDING, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN NORTH BEACH WHERE IT'S SORELY NEEDED.

AND WE HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR A RELATIVELY, I MEAN, LOOK, $190,000 IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO ME.

UM, BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, IT IS A VERY SMALL COST TO GET THE PARAMETERS RIGHT.

SO, UM, IF THIS GETS, UM, MOVED FORWARD WITH THE FAVORABLE PROGRAM, IT STILL GOES TO THE COMMISSION, CORRECT.

TO, FOR APPROVAL? YES.

OKAY, SO THEN THAT'S FINE.

IN THE MEANTIME, I'LL, WELL, LET'S APPROVE IT TODAY.

I, I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, WAS TO GO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING TO RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH FAVOR RECOMMENDATION TO THEN REFER TO NORTH BCA ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT, THAT CAN GIVE ME THE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO SPEAK TO THE CONSULTANTS.

AND I, I DON'T WANNA SLOW THE PROB, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOT'S, YOU KNOW, MOST PASSIONATE PROJECT.

I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA SLOW IT DOWN.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING THE BEST VALUES FOR ABSOLUTELY.

TAX DOLLARS.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND, AND THE NEXT, WHEN THIS GETS, WHEN WOULD THIS GO TO COMMISSION? THE NEXT ONE, JUNE, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT TO SEE, 'CAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO, LET ME, LET ME READ THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONER FROM COMMISSIONER BOT'S MOTION IS, IF I HAVE IT RIGHT IN THE SPIRIT.

SO WOULD RETURN TO COMMISSIONER OF THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR A REFERRAL TO THE NORTH BEACH CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS UTILIZING THE NORTH BEACH CRA WORKFORCE HOUSING BUDGET TO FUND THE CONSULTING PROPOSAL, AND THEN THE RETURN TO COMMISSION, UH, RETURN TO FERC WHEN APPROPRIATE.

I BELIEVE IS THE MOTION.

WAIT, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO COME BACK TO FERC, UH, AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? THIS ITEM WOULD COME BACK TO FERC AT SOME POINT? OR, OR WOULD THAT BE IT NOT FOR THE, NO, AS LONG AS WE OBTAIN THE BID WAIVER AS WELL AS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR EITHER THE BUDGET AMENDMENT OR THE, OR THE C RCRA FUNDING, UH, IT WOULD JUST GO TO COMMISSION AND THEN WE EXECUTE.

AND I, I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, THAT WE, WE PHRASE IT, UM, AS UP TO 190, BECAUSE THEN THAT GIVES YOU THE LEEWAY, UM, TO NOT USE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HILLTOP DENIM, WHICHEVER ONE IT WAS ABOUT THE FINANCING STACKING, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BECOME EVIDENT THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.

AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISPENSE WITH.

SO IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THREE NECESSARILY TO START WITH AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES.

IF WE SEE, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN WE THOUGHT, THEN, THEN WE MIGHT BRING IN THE THIRD PERSON.

BUT IF WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THERE IS A GOOD WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK AND WE SHOULD BE FINE, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO START OFF WITH ALL THREE, WHICH I THINK THREADS THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT.

UM, MY QUESTION ALSO IS, DOESN'T IT GO, CAN'T IT GO FROM HERE DIRECTLY TO THE CRA OR DOES IT HAVE TO STOP AT COMMISSION FIRST? I'LL ASK THE CITY HEARING, BUT BELIEVE, UH, ONLY THE COMMISSION CAN REFER.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION.

AND WE'VE HAD THIS, UH, UH, RELATIVELY, WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE, REFERRALS TO, TO THE NORTH BEACH C SO I WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO THE MAY COMMISSION MEETING, PLEASE.

I DON'T WANNA WAIT.

THAT'S HOW THE DEPARTMENT WORK ON THAT RESOLUTION.

SO WE'LL ADD, UM, THE UP 290,000 IN THE HOUSING BUDGET AND REMOVING THE RETAINING, THE RETAINING PART, WHICH SEEMS APPROPRIATE.

SO IF THAT'S THE MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER BOT ME THE MOTION.

AND, AND IF YOU CAN SET UP A MEETING ABSOLUTELY.

WITH, UH, THE THREE CONSULTANTS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND BETWEEN? YEAH, I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER WO SAY, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

HEARING NOT OPPOSED TO

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PASS.

CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUICK QUESTION? I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT WE HAVE, UH, TWO DEVELOPMENT, UH, AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US, AND THEY'RE QUASI OR STRAIGHT OUT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND THE DEVELOPERS IN BOTH OF THOSE INSTANCES ARE INCREDIBLY SOPHISTICATED AND WELL RESOURCED, AND ALSO WOULDN'T HAVE ANY TYPES OF CONFLICTS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE VYING FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.

COULD WE NOT ASK TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO BE A PARTNER IN LEVERAGING US SOME OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN WALKING, UH, YOUR TEAM THROUGH SOME JUST TO, TO PROVIDE AN OPINION? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH, IT IS.

200,000.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT.

I I DON'T WANT TO BE PENNYWISE POUND FOOLISH WHERE WE DON'T UTILIZE THIS YEAH.

AND LOSE MONEY IN THE LONG HAUL.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN ANY CONSULTANT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND LEVERAGE.

UM, SO REACH OUT.

UH, I'M HAPPY TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.

LET'S, IF THEY ARE TRULY PARTNERS IN OUR CITY, LIKE THEY PROJECT THEMSELVES TO BE, THEY CAN HELP US UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR RESOURCES.

AND I, FOR ONE OF MY PROPOSALS, WASHINGTON AGNEW, I REQUESTED DAVID MARTIN, UH, DO A FULL ANALYSIS ON LIKE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE THREE DIFFERENT SITES.

AND, AND HE WAS VERY HELPFUL, UM, GAVE A FULL BREAKDOWN ANALYSIS AND I'M SURE HE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP US.

THAT WORKED OUT WELL FOR HIM.

UM, LIKE TO HEAR TWO MORE ITEMS. DO WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A HARD STOP AT TWO, DO WE? UH, IT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE OVER, IT'S ONE 30.

UM, SO I, I BELIEVE YOU CAN MOTION TO EXTEND IF YOU WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY FOR 15 MINUTES.

I WANT TO HEAR, UH, MICHAEL ROSSI IS ON FOR THE PROJECTION MAPPING.

AND THEN I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ TO HEAR, UH, NB 33 AS WELL.

SO WE'LL SHOW EVERYONE ACCEPTING, UH, EXTENDING, UH, 2, 2 2 10.

UM, WE MOVE SUPER FAST.

YEAH, LET'S DO THE, UH, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR MINE AND, UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DISCUSS IT.

I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

WHAT'S YOURS? THE PENSION OBJECTION MAPPING.

I HOPE IS CASE.

ALRIGHT, UH, WE, WE WE'RE HEARING BOTH THE PROJECTION MAPPING ITEMS, WHICH ARE LINKED, CORRECT? UH, NO, BECAUSE I, I TOLD COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ, UH, WE WOULDN'T, UH, HAVE DONE HEARS IN NORTH BEACH, BUT THEN I WAS JUST ALERTED MICHAEL ROSSES ONLINE.

SO LET'S BIFURCATE THOSE.

I DON'T WANNA STEAL HER THUNDER.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE FOR, IS MINE GONNA TAKE A MINUTE? 27.

THE, IT'S, IT'S YOUR ITEM, SIR.

SO LET'S HEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER SU SUAREZ'S.

AND THEN, UH, LIZETTE, WE WILL HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

AND HERE THE WEST AVENUE PROJECTION MAPPING.

UH, OKAY, COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY, WHICH ITEM DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE? YOUR ITEM? WHICH ITEM NUMBER? YEAH, WHAT'S THE ITEM NUMBER? UH,

[NB 33. AN ORDINANCE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE MIAMI BEACH EMPLOYEES’ RETIREMENT PLAN CREATED BY ORDINANCE NO. 2006-3504, AS SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED, TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]

MB 33.

OH, SORRY.

AND THEN WE'LL HEAR THAT IN ONE SECOND.

UM, IS THAT, UM, 27 MB 33 IN ORDINANCE OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA AMENDING THE MIAMI BEACH EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLAN, CREATED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2006 DASH 3 5 0 4, AS SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED TO AMEND THE PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS PROVIDING WITH SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT THEREIN, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE MB 33.

I MOVE MY ITEM AND I'LL SECOND THAT'S WHAT JUST THE HAVE IT HEARD AT THE FULL COMMISSION? YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

'CAUSE I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET INTO LONG OUT, DRAWN OUT DISCUSSION THERE.

UH, SO WHILE COMMITTEE IS THE VET, SOME OF THOSE DETAILS, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT TO SAY THEY'RE 2 CENTS OR $10, MAYBE THE CRU VALUE OF, UH, 2 CENTS.

THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS IT BEING REFERRED WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION OR IS IT JUST BEING REFERRED BACK FOR DISCUSSION? REFERRED BACK? WHO IS IT? I THINK IT'S JUST BEING REFERRED BACK IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.

RETURN TO COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION NEXT.

I, YEAH.

AND THEN LET'S HEAR, UH, MB 27.

SO, SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM RETURN TO COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION.

I BELIEVE THAT WE REQUIRE A VOTE, RIGHT? SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SWAR.

SECOND, I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE.

[NB 27. DISCUSS SPONSORING A PROJECTION MAPPING EVENT IN CANOPY PARK FOR MEMORIAL DAY 2025 OR ANOTHER SUITABLE FESTIVE DATE]

HOPEFULLY WE CAN WRAP THIS UP BY 2:00 PM UH, FOR COMMISSIONER BOTSFORD MB 27 DISCUSSED SPONSORING A PROJECTION MAPPING EVENT IN CANOPY PARK FOR MEMORIAL DAY 2025 OR OTHER SUITABLE FESTIVE DATE MB 27.

FACILITATE A PROJECT WHERE OUR RESIDENTS ARE, UM, RECEIVING SOME OF THOSE VALUES.

SO THIS WON'T BE FOR MEMORIAL DAY, UM, THE WEST AVENUE AND, UH, SO BE WEST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND, UH, WITH MICHAEL ROSSI, PART OF, UH, UM, THE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THE PROJECTION MAPPING ON OCEAN DRIVE ON LINCOLN ROAD.

UM, IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE GEO BOND, UH, PROGRAM THAT IS PAID BY OUR RESIDENTS.

I WOULD LOVE TO ESSENTIALLY, UH, HELP

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SO WHILE WE'RE DOING IT NOW, HOPEFULLY IN CANOPY PARK, COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ HAS ONE FOR UP IN NORTH BEACH FOR OCEAN TERRACE.

SO HOPEFULLY, UH, THIS CAN BE PART OF A PARK.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO IS THAT, YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

LISA ANTE TOURISM AND CULTURE.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE MICHAEL ROSSI FROM MIAMI BEACH CLASSICAL MUSIC FESTIVAL ON THE LINE.

UH, WE MET WITH, UH, TIM CARR, PRESIDENT OF SOBE WEST, AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO RESIDENTS FROM BENTLEY BAY ON THE CALL AS WELL.

UH, THIS IS TO DISCUSS FUNDING FOR, UH, PROJECTION MAPPING EVENT FOR HALLOWEEN.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO LAUNCH SOMETHING IN CANOPY PARK.

UH, THEY WOULD BE PROJECTING ONTO THE, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS OF THE BENTLEY BAY.

AND ON IN YOUR MEMO, YOU WILL SEE ON THE SECOND PAGE THE COST BREAKDOWN.

SO JUST TO HAVE THE PROJECTION MAPPING EQUIPMENT IS ABOUT $88,000 BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS BIG, SO IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT FROM ONE THEY'VE PROJECTED ON OCEAN DRIVE AND A LINCOLN ROAD.

UH, SO, AND MICHAEL'S ON THE CALL AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'VE PROVIDED A PACKAGE OF THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHICH INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING A BASIC PACKAGE OF JUST SOUND.

THE OTHER ONE IS HAVING MORE, UH, A 25 PIECE ORCHESTRA.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS HAVING, UH, A, YOU KNOW, A VILLAGE LIKE THEY DO IN LOOMIS PARK WITH HAVING DIFFERENT VENDORS AND MAKING IT REALLY A WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE EVENT.

UH, THE START OF THAT WOULD BE IN TOTAL ABOUT 101,000 FOR THE SYMBOL PACKAGE, A MEDIUM PACKAGE OF ABOUT 1 27.

AND THEN THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE, BELLS AND WHISTLES IS 1 66.

AND I HAVE MIKE ON, ON THE CALL.

HOW I FEEL, GIVEN IT WOULD BE HALLOWEEN, I DON'T THINK THE ORCHESTRA WOULD BE NECESSARY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS GOING ONLINE, UH, GOING ON.

UM, I KNOW MYSELF AND MY FAMILY AND A LOT OF THE FAMILIES IN THIS AREA, EVERYBODY JUST GOES UP TO THE LAKEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON.

IT'D BE GREAT ACTUALLY TO HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THAT STRAIN AND STRESS THAT HAPPENS, UH, UP THERE TO KIND OF SPREAD OUT SOME OF THE EVENTS AND ACTIVATIONS, UH, IN OUR AREA.

SO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES.

UH, SOMETHING CHAMPIONED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUT IF YOU ALL HAD ANY THOUGHTS.

SO IS THIS, THIS IS, THIS FEE IS FOR, IT'S NOT JUST ONE TIME, IT'S FOR FUTURE EVENTS, IT'S JUST FOR ONE TIME.

EIGHT.

OH, HMM.

SO IT'S 88,000 FOR JUST ONE TIME.

IT'S 101.

SO 88 IS JUST TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PROJECTORS OF THE BUILDING'S HEIGHT.

AND MICHAEL, YOU'RE ON THE CALL IF YOU WANNA EXPLAIN THAT, BUT, BUT IF, IF WE WANTED TO DO OTHER HOLIDAYS, IS THERE LIKE A, IS IT GONNA COST LESS IN THE FUTURE? NO.

MICHAEL, I, I, I THINK WHERE, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, UH, PERHAPS RIGHTFULLY SO GOING, ANY WAY TO VALUE ENGINEER THIS A LITTLE BIT? IT, MICHAEL ROLY, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

HOW MUCH DOES A FIREWORK SHOW COST? LET'S SEE, UH, UM, WITH A BARGE, YOU KNOW, OVER 85, 85 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE SHOW THAT YOU WANT, BUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR JULY 4TH, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE ROUGHLY RIGHT NOW? WHAT IS THE CITY WE'RE LIKE AT 90,000.

THAT'S WITH A BARGE FOR A 12 MINUTE SHOW.

AND MICHAEL, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE AND TALK, WHICH BUILDING WOULD THIS GO ON ON BENTLEY BAY? BENTLEY BAY ON THE BACKSIDE OF BENTLEY BAY, THE FRONT, THE, THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE? THE EAST SIDE.

THAT'S FACING KENNEDY PARK.

EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT IT WOULD, THE PROJECTION WOULD BE WEST FACING.

AND HOW WOULD YOU COORDINATE WITH OH, BECAUSE IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL CONCRETE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE.

IT'S JUST REALLY EXPENSIVE.

I MEAN, A HUNDRED, THIS IS JUST RECALL, I MEAN THE, THE ITEM PER THE ADMINISTRATION, JUST LIKE THE BROKEN RECORD WE ARE, IS TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY FINAL ACTION.

SO IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, RETURN WITH A FAVORABLE COMMISSION BE CONSIDERED DURING THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS.

AND, AND THIS A HUNDRED, 1000 IS JUST, I GUESS THIS IS A BID WAIVER, CORRECT? BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE COMING FROM MICHAEL ROSSI OR, OR WE, WE DON'T PROCURE ARTISTIC SERVICES.

SO THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT.

SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT COSTS FOR A DAY AT THE BETSY FOR A DAY? FOR, UH, EVENING WHEN THEY DO IT AT THE BETSY? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH LITTLE BIT US.

MIKE, GET ON MUTE.

IT'D BE GREAT.

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AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BENTLEY BAY IS WHAT MICHAEL HAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT HE HAS TO GET ADDITIONAL PROJECTORS AND IT'S, IT'S MORE TECHNICAL WORK AND THAT'S WHY IT'S 88,000.

JUST FOR THAT.

DO WE KNOW WHAT, UH, LET'S CALL IT THE BETSY, OR I THINK WE HAVE IT AT, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER.

HI, DAVID, I'M ON MUTED.

I'M I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON MY, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON SPEAKERPHONE ON MY MICROPHONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M UNMUTED.

I SEE THE, I SEE MYSELF TALKING ONLINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T HEAR.

75 TO 85,000 TO DO THE MAPPING AND ALSO, WHICH YOU SHOULD, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SELL EVERYONE.

I REALLY APOLOGIZE.

WE CAN ONLY HEAR YOU NOW.

SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH THE, THE COST THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE YEAH.

LIKED TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, USE THE SAME COST THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR, UH, FUTURE OR OTHER HOLIDAYS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? AND MAYBE YOU CAN WALK US THROUGH HOW THE PRICE.

SURE.

UM, WHAT I WANTED TO, TO MENTION, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THE VIDEO I SENT OR NOT.

UM, BUT THE, THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING IS TWICE THE SIZE OF THE TIDES BUILDING.

IT'S TWICE THE SIZE OF ALL OF OCEAN PARK, UM, WHEN WE DO THE SIX, NOT OCEAN PARK, WHEN WE DO THE SIX BUILDINGS.

SO THE COST IS MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE WE NEED TO ULTIMATELY RENT DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT THAN WHAT THE GEO BOND GAVE US.

SO, SO YEAH, IF YOU SEE THAT PICTURE OF THE, THE TIDES, IT JUST POPPED UP.

SO MICHAEL, YOU'RE RENTING THIS EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR, NOT FOR THE TIDES OR FOR OCEAN DRIVE? THAT IS WHAT THE GEO BOND PROVIDED, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ACTIVATION IN CANOPY PARK, THE BUILDING IS TWICE THE SIZE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PROJECTORS IN OUR GEO BOND STOCK TO DO IT.

AND I'LL HAVE TO RUN SIX.

I MEAN, HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST TO JUST OUTRIGHT BUY SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE WANT TO, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, YOU COULD PAUSE THE VIDEO.

UM, PJ HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT FOR FUTURE, UM, EVENTS WITH DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RENT IT FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? SURE.

EACH, EACH, UM, WELL, WHAT YOU ALREADY PROVIDED, EACH PROJECTOR WAS AROUND $70,000.

AND UH, THAT'S, AND I HAVE, I OWN SIX FROM THE GEO BOND.

AND SO HOW MANY, HOW MANY WOULD IT COST TO DO THE BENTLEY BAY FOR THE 10 WE WE'RE PROPOSING 10.

SORRY, MICHAEL, 10 MORE.

DID YOU SAY SIX? NO, NO, 10 TOTAL.

ONE SEVEN OR SEVEN ZERO.

BUT YOU HAVE SIX.

I HAVE SIX.

AND YOU NEED FOUR MORE.

CORRECT.

AND THE FOUR MORE TO RENT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UH, NO, THERE'S STILL ALL OF THE HARD COSTS THAT GO INTO MAKING THE EVENT.

THIS IS WHY THIS EVENT COSTS MORE.

UM, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED WAS ABOUT HOW MUCH WAS THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS AND ON OCEAN DRIVE, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, EVENT FOR TWO WEEKENDS COST HARD COST ON MMF $200,000.

THAT WAS WITH ALL OF THE VENDORS, UM, JUST GETTING POWER ALONE AND PERMITTING PROCESS IS $10,000 JUST TO GO IN WITH, UH, WITH POWER.

UM, SO I HAVE A COST BREAKDOWN.

IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW IT, I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW IT WITH YOU.

UM, BUT BY THE TIME WE DO ALL OF THE, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE STAFF, THE PERMITTING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, A TYPICAL EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY JUST AT THE, THAT YOU'VE SEEN AT, UM, YOU KNOW, PRIDE OR AT THE, UM, OCEAN DRIVE, IT'S HARD COST TO MMF ABOUT $75,000.

SO, SO THIS PARTICULAR EVENT WOULD BE OUT OUTSIDE THE RENTAL OF THE PROJECTORS WOULD BE $75,000 FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR, UM, OPERATION.

UM, USUALLY THEY RUN AROUND THERE.

THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

UM, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THE PERMITTING FEES.

AND I HAVE A DETAILED BUDGET IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH IT.

I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU, UM, TO EVERYBODY LINE BY LINE.

UM, BUT, BUT PERMITTING FEES ARE SOMETHING WE CAN OBVIOUSLY WAIVE THOUGH, RIGHT? WAS THAT, UM, IT'S USUALLY THE BUILDING PERMIT, GENERAL CONTRACTING FEE.

UM, SO A TYPICAL, LIKE FOR PRIDE THAT'S COMING UP IN A FEW WEEKS, IT WAS $7,500 GENERAL CONTRACTOR FEE THAT WE'RE PAYING.

THE GENERAL, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BULK OF THE COST? UM, THE BULK OF THE COST IS USUALLY IN THE TECHNICAL LABOR, THE ENGINEERS, PROJECTION ENGINEERS, THE MEDIA SERVER OPERATORS.

UM, THERE'S USUALLY A ONE TIME MAPPING FEE THAT'S, UH, ONCE WE MAP THE PLACE, THEN THAT DOESN'T COME BACK AGAIN.

THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, $10,000 3D SCAN.

UM, ONCE, SO THAT'S, ONCE YOU DO A BUILDING WHEEL, THAT FEE DOESN'T COME BACK.

UM, THE, UM, THE, ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, SECURITY OVERNIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT COME INTO EFFECT, BUT LINE BY LINE, UM, IT GOES INTO, YOU KNOW, THE

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SO THEY KNOW WHEN WE DID FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS, IT WAS TWO WEEKENDS LONG, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS 200,000 ISH DOLLARS.

SO WE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN WE ADD IN ALL OF THE VENDORS AND THE FEES.

UM, MY ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY LOST MONEY TO PRODUCE THE EVENT.

UM, THERE WASN'T A SINGLE DOLLAR THAT WENT TO MIAMI MUSIC FESTIVAL IN PRODUCING THE EVENT, UM, WITH, WITH ALL OF THE FEES AND EVERYTHING THAT INVOLVED TO, TO, TO PRODUCE IT.

SO I'M OF COURSE WORKING ON THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT LOSING MONEY EVERY TIME WE PUT AN EVENT UP, BUT, BUT THE FEES ARE VERY HIGH IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED TO GET IT TO HAPPEN.

AND ALSO FOR, FOR, FOR REFERENCE, UM, A TYPICAL PROJECTION MAPPING EVENT, SUCH AS WHEN THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS FROM FRANCE, UM, UH, APPROACH MIAMI BEACH, THE QUOTES ARE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.

SO WE'VE TAKEN IT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AT ROUGHLY A 10TH OF THE COST.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CITIES, UH, WORLDWIDE THAT CAN DO A PROJECTION MAPPING EVENT AT THIS CALIBER AND MAGNITUDE.

C COMMISSIONER BOT DID.

I DIDN'T WANNA CUT YOU OFF, BUT DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION WHILE YOU HAVE HIM ON THE PHONE? YES, PLEASE.

I I JUST COULDN'T HEAR IF HE SAID 17 1 7 OR 70.

FOR WHAT? FOR EACH SEVEN ZERO SE FOR EACH NEW MACHINE TO, TO PURCHASE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I THINK, UH, WE REACHED OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AT, UH, 1250.

WE'RE CONSIDERING A PROJECT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC BENEFITS.

LET'S SEE IF, UH, UH, FUNDING THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, THERE IS SOMETHING THEY'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT.

WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, NOT A ONE TIME BASIS? YEAH.

WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS, MR. CHAIR? I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR ITEM, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WHEN DO WE, DO WE WANNA KEEP US HERE? I LOOK, I'M GONNA, GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE SPENDING, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON, ON FIREWORKS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT.

I MEAN, AND MINUS ALL THE POLLUTION THAT FIREWORKS BRINGS, I THINK THIS IS, IT'S A GOOD EVENT.

UM, IT'S REALLY GONNA BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, I I'M SUPPORTIVE.

I I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL WHAT MICHAEL HAS DONE ON, ON, UM, OCEAN DRIVE AND, UH, AT THE, AT THE AMMAN, UH, NOTMAN, THE, UM, BEY BETSY, NOT THE BETSY, THE THE TIDES.

THE TIDES BUILDING THE TIDES.

AND ALSO YOU, YOU, THE ONE THAT YOU'VE DONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, THE FAINA, WE DONE AARON SEA.

FIND THAT AND SEE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S CUTTING EDGE.

IT'S WHAT MAKES MIAMI BEACH UNIQUE AND DIVERSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE ARTS.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE.

I, I WISH THAT WE COULD HAVE MAYBE SOME FUNDING TO JUST PURCHASE THE ADDITIONAL THREE OR FOUR THAT YOU NEED SO THAT MOVING FORWARD WE CAN DO IT AT THIS LOCATION.

UM, AND JUST GET, I WOULD ALSO, I, I WOULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RUN INTO, UM, THE NEED OF HAVING MORE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE JUST HAVE SIX, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ALWAYS WANT IT TO EXTEND ALL OF OCEAN DRIVE 14TH STREET.

UH, SO I AM LIMITED, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST THE SIX AND THAT WAS THE MAX AMOUNT THAT THE GEO BOND, YOU KNOW, GAVE US.

SO OF COURSE WE'RE THRILLED THAT WE GOT THAT MAX AMOUNT.

UM, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE PROJECT, UM, TO EXPAND OUR, UM, ARSENAL OF, UH, PROJECTORS.

PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT'S YOU WANT TO, OR COMMISSIONER BOT WANT TO SPEARHEAD.

AND YEAH.

SO LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION AND YOU SPEAK, AND THEN I'LL SEE IF I'LL LEAD THE EFFORT TO SEE IF WE CAN INCLUDE, UH, SOME OF THIS IN THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.

BUT COMMISSIONER, YEAH.

NO, AND I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT INSTEAD OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT BEING SPONSORING THIS SHOW ONE TIME, UM, IS JUST BUYING THE ADDITIONAL FOUR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND THAT THEN GIVES US FLEXIBILITY WHENEVER AND WHEREVER.

AND, AND SOUNDS LIKE, UH, ONCE THAT PROJECTION MAPPING IS DONE, IF WE HAVE FOUR EXTRA PROJECTORS WE COULD ACTUALLY PRODUCE, THEY SHOW A COST OF $50,000.

SO IF, IF I MAY SHARE, WE'RE GONNA RETURN THIS TO COMMISSIONER WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.

MICHAEL, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH YOU.