* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ONE. [00:00:01] GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. UM, WE'RE BACK. HAVE, UH, VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER SUAREZ THAT'S HERE. WE'RE GONNA GET KICKED OFF WITH THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR JUNE OF 2025. UH, HAVE A FULL AGENDA. SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO, UM, REALLY GET THROUGH SOME THINGS AND HAVE SOME PRETTY, UH, UH, IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS TODAY. UH, WE'VE, UH, ESPECIALLY MY COLLEAGUE AND I, UH, I THINK WE'VE REALLY BEEN OUT IN FRONT OF GETTING THROUGH, UM, AND COMMUNICATING THAT THIS COULD BE, UH, A CHALLENGING BUDGET YEAR. AND YOU SEE IT NOT ONLY IN MIAMI BEACH, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY EVEN MORE PRONOUNCED, UH, AT THE COUNTY. THAT'S CERTAINLY GOT IN A LOT OF PRECEDENT HEADLINES. BUT OUR COUNTY IS FACING A, UH, PROJECTED BUDGET SHORTFALL SOMEWHERE IN THE TUNE OF, UH, 400 SOME MILLION DOLLARS. NOW, UH, THERE ARE SOME IDIOSYNCRATIC THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING THAT, SUCH AS, UH, THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, UH, OVERSPENDING OR MISSPENDING ON TRANSIT. UM, BUT WE ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES, UH, FACING HERE IN MIAMI BEACH. UM, WE, UH, WILL DISCUSS THIS IN A MORE PROPER FORM AT THE BUDGET, UH, UH, COMMITTEE RETREATS COMING UP. UM, HOWEVER, UH, WE GOT IN AN INITIAL ANALYSIS OF WHERE PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY MAINTAIN BASE LEVEL SERVICES. UH, AS PROJECTED, WE WOULD'VE NEED TO SEE PROPERTY VALUATION INCREASE OF ABOUT 7.2%. WE SAW ABOUT A 6.9% INCREASE, UH, WITH CERTAINLY THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, OUR CONDO MARKET SLOWING EVEN FURTHER. UM, SO IT BECOMES EVEN MORE AND MORE CRITICAL THAT, UH, WE FIND INEFFICIENCIES. WE ARE PRUDENT WITH OUR BUDGET. UM, WE'RE ANALYZING, UH, WHAT TRULY NEEDS TO HAPPEN. UM, BECAUSE, UH, AT GOVERNMENT WE DON'T SELL IPHONES. WE DON'T SELL WIDGETS. WE RAISE REVENUE IN ONE WAY, AND THAT IS THROUGH TAX. SO ANY TYPE OF, UH, OVERSPENDING IS GOING TO BE MET WITH, UH, UH, BASICALLY FLOWING THROUGH AND TAXING OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO, UH, GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, NOT TO DO. UM, AND I, I THINK WE BOTH PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER MONEY. SO WE WANNA SEE THAT CONTINUE. MR. CFO, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, TO OPEN OUR MEETING UP, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, GET GOING. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND REMAINING MEMBERS, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, VIRTUALLY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 6 3 6 0 5 9 5 4 6 2. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. UH, A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, MB [NB 39. DISCUSS A PROPOSED NEW LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH (LANDLORD), AND COLONY THEATER CAFÉ, INC. D/B/A SEGAFREDO ZANETTI ESPRESSO (TENANT), FOR THE USE OF APPROXIMATELY 1,092 SQUARE FEET OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 1040 LINCOLN ROAD, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA (PREMISES) FOR A TERM OF THREE (3) YEARS COMMENCING RETROACTIVELY ON AUGUST 1, 2024.] 39 IS WITHDRAWN. UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DEFERRALS, UH, MOSTLY TO THE JUNE 11TH MEETING. UH, COMMISSIONER BOT IS A MEMBER OF, UH, FERC, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND AN ASSET HORIZON. SPEAK, UH, PUT TO, UH, JUNE, UM, THE JUNE 11TH MEETING, AND WE HAVE THEO JULY. SO HERE WE GO. UH, OB ONE WILL BE [OB 1. DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AND FUNDING FOR THE PINE TREE DRIVE AND 46 STREET TRAFFIC CIRCLE PROJECT] DEFERRED TO JUNE 11TH, OB FOUR, [OB 4. DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY ENTERING INTO ONE OR MORE AGREEMENTS WITH PRIVATE PARKING FACILITY OPERATORS IN NORTH BEACH IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES FOR NORTH BEACH RESIDENTS.] JUNE 11TH, OB SIXTH, [OB 6. DISCUSS A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE, AT ITS APRIL 19, 2024 MEETING, TO ACCEPT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION’S UPDATE ON THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PARKING DEPARTMENT ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS] THE JULY FERC MEETING, OB SEVEN [OB 7. DISCUSS CONFLICT OF INTEREST /ETHICAL CONCERNS RE: MDPL'S MULTIPLE ROLES] JULY FERC MEETING, MB FIVE JUNE 11TH, [NB 5. DISCUSSION REGARDING EXPANDING KIDS’ PARKS AND RECREATION OFFERINGS TO INCLUDE SUNDAY CLASSES.] MB 11TH, JUNE 11TH, [NB 11. DISCUSS THE ACTIVATION OF ALLEYS IN SOUTH BEACH (ART DECO SIGNS) AND NORTH BEACH (MIMO SIGNS).] MB 19, [NB 19. DISCUSS THE CREATION OF A MIAMI BEACH HISTORICAL MUSEUM, AND IDENTIFY POTENTIAL SITES ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION AN UNDERUTILIZED OR VACANT STOREFRONT IN A CITY-OWNED BUILDING, IN ORDER TO COMPLEMENT THE CITY'S ROBUST CULTURAL OFFERINGS WITH A NEW INSTITUTION FOCUSED ON THE HISTORY OF MIAMI BEACH.] [NB 23. DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INTEGRATE UNDERGROUND CISTERNS WITHIN THE WEST LOTS] [NB 27. DISCUSS THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING A GREEN ROOF AT CITY HALL.] MB 23, AND MB 27, ALL JUNE 11TH, MB 34, [NB 34. DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT TO FUND THE INSTALLATION OF GUARD GATES AND/OR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER SECURITY SERVICES OR FEATURES ON FLAMINGO DRIVE] JULY MB 38 [NB 38. DISCUSS AN AMENDMENT TO THE RHYTHM FOUNDATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE MIAMI BEACH BAND SHELL TO INCLUDE A NINE-YEAR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT EXTENSION AND AN INCREASE IN THE ANNUAL FUNDING CONTRIBUTION PROVIDED BY THE CITY TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET PROCESS.] JUNE 11TH, AND MB 40 [NB 40. A DISCUSSION TO CONSIDER A PROPOSED NEW MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE USE OF THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1001 OCEAN DRIVE (MIAMI BEACH OCEAN FRONT AUDITORIUM) WITH THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE (MDPL) FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS AND ONE (1) RENEWAL OPTION OF FOUR (4) YEARS AND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY-FOUR (364) DAYS.] JUNE 11TH. UH, THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS WOULD BE, UH, LINKED IF HEARD, UH, MB 42 AND 43 RELATED TO CROWN CASTLE FIBER MB FOUR AND [NB 4. DISCUSS POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION OF A HOTEL EMPLOYEE PARKING PROGRAM AT THE 17TH STREET GARAGE (G5).] [NB 10. REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER A REDUCED PARKING RATE FOR MIAMI BEACH WORKFORCE, INCLUDING HOSPITALITY EMPLOYEES.] MB 10, UH, RELATED TO HOTEL AND MIAMIA BEACH WORKFORCE PARKING RATES WOULD BE LINKED AND HEARD TOGETHER. AND THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TIMES CERTAINS 10:30 AM MB 44, CALL ME, UH, CALL ME GABBY. LEASE MB 31, I'M SORRY, AT 10 31 MB 42 AND 43, UH, AT 10 32 MB 41 AT 10 33 MB 45, AND AT 10 40 MB ONE. THOSE ARE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS CHAIR, AND THANK YOU MR. CFO. AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, KIND OF FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT, UM, BUDGET PROCESS ITEMS THAT ESSENTIALLY, NO MATTER WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS HERE, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION TO BE HEARD DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. UH, WE COULD SIT HERE WITH TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AND, AND BEAT SOME OF THESE TO DEATH JUST FOR THEM TO BE, BE DISCUSSED, UH, IN WHAT, A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AT THE, UH, BROADER COMMITTEE. UM, THINGS LIKE ADDING ADDITIONAL POLICE, ADDITIONAL MARINE PATROL, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO DISCUSS AS A, UH, MORE UNIFIED BODY. UM, SO WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS ESSENTIALLY JUST PUSHING THOSE TO BE HEARD, UH, AS PART OF THE FULL BUDGET PROCESS MEETING. [00:05:01] UM, ESSENTIALLY HOW I OPEN UP, WE'RE GOING TO BE FINDING OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A LOT MORE PLACES WHERE WE WANT OR DESIRE TO SPEND MONEY THAN OUR ABILITY TO DO SO. SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO COME, UH, DURING THE BUDGET MEETING WITH A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE, LET'S CALL IT 15, UH, ITEMS ON A WISHLIST. AND WE ONLY HAVE FUNDING FOR FIVE OR 10 OF THOSE. SO WE WILL ESSENTIALLY GO THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS. UH, SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BEAT THOSE TO DEATH HERE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ESSENTIALLY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS. UM, TURN THAT OVER TO YEAH. CHAIR. I COULD, I COULD I, YES. DURING OUR BRIEFING, YOUR TEAM HAD IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO BE CONSIDERED THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM, IF YOU CAN, I, IF YOU WANT, I CAN LIST THOSE EIGHT ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD, YOU HAD DISCUSSED, AND I THINK YOU WERE GONNA BE ENTERTAINING AN ITEM JUST TO SEND BACK TO COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IN THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS. THE, THOSE ITEMS ARE NB FIVE RELATED TO PAR, UH, WEEKEND PARKS CLASSES, MB SEVEN, ADDITIONAL POLICE DIVIDING AREA TWO MB EIGHT, ADDITIONAL MARINE PATROL MB 12 WRAPAROUND PALM TREE LIGHTING. SO IN THE SOFI NEIGHBORHOOD, MB 13 FESTIVAL LIGHTS PROJECTION MAPPING TO NORTH BEACH MB 14, PURCHASING A MOBILE POLICE SUBSTATION, MB 15 PRIVATE SECURITY ON LINCOLN ROAD, WASHINGTON, AND MP 21 ANNUAL ALLOCATION TO THE SIX ADVISORY COMMITTEES. AND I BELIEVE WE, WE DISCUSSED WAS JUST ASKING FOR A MOTION TO SEND THOSE BACK TO COMMISSIONER WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE JUST NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. WE'LL SHOW COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, UH, SEC. UH, THE SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT PASSES. SO WE'LL SHOW THOSE ITEMS, ITEMS GOING BACK TO COMM TO THE JUNE COMMISSION TO, UH, BE CONFIRMED. OKAY. EXCELLENT. UM, AND THEN LET'S GET TO SOME OF THE TIME CERTAINS. WE HAVE, UH, THREE THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, SOMEWHAT ADMINISTRATIVE OR PROCEDURAL. UH, BUT LET'S, UH, GET STARTED WITH THE CALL ME GABBY LEASE. IF WE CAN HAVE CITY STAFF COME UP, UH, TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO, UM, OPEN THAT UP AND WE'LL HAVE CITY STAFF PRESENT. SURE. UH, MB 44 [NB 44. DISCUSS A PROPOSED NEW LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, A FLORIDA MUNICIPAL CORPORATION (LANDLORD), AND SOBE TOSCANA, LLC (TENANT), WAIVING, BY 5/7THS VOTE, THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS, AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 82-39 OF THE MIAMI BEACH CITY CODE, FINDING SUCH WAIVER TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY FOR THE USE OF THE CITY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 22 WASHINGTON AVENUE, DIRECTLY INFRONT OF TENANT’S RESTAURANT, SAID LEASE HAVING A TERM OF NINE (9) YEARS AND 364 DAYS.] PROPOSE, UH, DISCUSS A PROPOSED LEASE GRANT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MY BEACH, UH, FLORIDA PERMISSIBLE CORPORATION LANDLORD AND SOBI TANA LLC TENANT, WAIVING BY FIVE FIFTHS VOTE. THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 82 39 OF THE MIAMI BEACH CITY CODE, FINDING SUCH WAIVER TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY FOR THE USE OF THE CITY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 22 WASHINGTON AVENUE, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE TENANT'S RESTAURANT. SAID LEASE HAVING A TERM OF NINE YEARS AND 364 DAYS MB 44. GOOD MORNING. OZZY DOMINGUEZ, DIVISION DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. UH, KAMI GA, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, SOBI. TOSCANA IS A TENANT, HAS A, UM, IT'S A RESTAURANT, UH, THAT HAS A LEASE WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER ACROSS THE STREET FROM JOE STONE CRAB, UH, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THEM IS A PIE SHAPED CITY PARCEL OF ABOUT 2200 SQUARE FEET, WHAT THEY USE AS SEATING AREA. UH, THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A NEW 16 YEAR LEASE WITH THEIR TENT, WITH THEIR LANDLORD, AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED AN EARLY RENEWAL SO THAT THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY IS CALLED CLOSER ANGLE TERMIN IS WITH THEIR PERMANENT AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE RESTAURANT. WE DO HAVE, UH, THE TENANT HERE, THEY HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION. IF, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S NECESSARY. WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YOU KNOW HOW I SEE THIS, I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH CALL ME GABBY, ARE AN ABSOLUTE PHENOMENAL, UH, UH, STEWARD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS A TRUE NEIGHBORHOOD ESTABLISHMENT. IT'S A WALKABLE AREA, AND I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER USE THAT THE CITY COULD EVER POSSIBLY HAVE FOR THAT OTHER THAN, UH, LEASING IT TO THE TENANT IN THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND JUST TO FRAME THIS CONCEPTUALLY FOR, UH, THOSE WATCHING, YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND THEN THE CITY OWNS ESSENTIALLY THE PATIO OUT FRONT THAT IS JUST WEST OF THE SIDEWALK. CORRECT. MR. CHAIR. AND AS YOU SAID, THERE REALLY IS NO OTHER USE FOR THE CITY, UH, FOR THIS PARCEL. UH, IT IS, IT IS IN THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE RIGHT NOW. WE GENERATE ABOUT $70,000 A YEAR. THEY HAVE 3% ANNUAL ESCALATIONS. THEY ALSO HAVE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT FOR THEIR GREASE TRAP THAT IS CALLED TERMINUS WITH THEIR AGREEMENT. UM, AND THE CITY REC STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE THIS TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. AND, AND THESE ARE FAIR FREE MARKET TERMS? YES. THEY'RE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND THANK YOU. SO WE'LL SHOW THE, THE ITEM, THE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE LEASE EXTENSION AS PRESENTED, AND WE'LL SHOW, UH, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ AND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. PASSES THREE OH, SHOULD CONTINUE. SHOULD I CONTINUE WITH THOSE LEASE ITEMS AS WE DISCUSSED? THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA HEAR [NB 42. DISCUSS A PROPOSED NEW ROOFTOP LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MIAMI BEACH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (RDA) (LANDLORD) AND CROWN CASTLE FIBER, LLC (TENANT) FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF WIRELESS COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE (PREMISES) FOR A TERM OF NINE (9) YEARS AND 364 DAYS.] MB 42 AND 44 TOGETHER AND, UH, MB 42 DISCUSS AND PROPOSED NEW ROOFTOP LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN MY BEACH REDEVELOPMENT [00:10:01] AGENCY, RDA LANDLORD AND CROWN CASTLE FIBER, LLC TENANT FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF WIRELESS COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE PREMISES FOR A TERM OF NINE YEARS AND 364 DAYS. AND MB 43 [NB 43. DISCUSS A PROPOSED EARLY RENEWAL OF THE DISTRIBUTED ANTENNA SYSTEM (DAS) FACILITY USE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH (LANDLORD), AND CROWN CASTLE FIBER, LLC (TENANT) FOR THE CONTINUED INSTALLATION, OPERATION, AND MAINTENANCE OF THE DAS AT THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER (PREMISES) TO BE COTERMINOUS WITH THE ROOFTOP LEASE AGREEMENT AT ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE FOR A TERM OF NINE (9) YEARS AND 364 DAYS .] DISCUSSED THE PROPOSED EARLY RENEWABLE OF THE DISTRIBUTED ANTENNA SYSTEM, DASA FACILITY USE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMIA BEACH LANDLORD AND GRAND CASTLE. FIBER, LLC TENANT FOR THE CONTINUED INSTALLATION OPERATION. MAINTENANCE OF THE DAS AT THE MAYA BEACH CONVECTION CENTER PREMISES TO BE CO-TERMINUS WITH THE ROOFTOP LEASE AGREEMENT AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE FOR A TERM OF NINE YEARS AND 364 DAYS AND BE 43. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT WITH, UH, A CROWN CASTLE FIBER FOR THE ANTENNA AT THE ROOFTOP OF ANCHOR GARAGE. IT EXPIRES OCTOBER 31ST, 2025, SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A RENEWAL. AND IN DISCUSSIONS WITH CROWN CASTLE, WE FOUND THAT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST SINCE ONE SYSTEM CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT THE OTHER, THAT WE DO AN EARLY TERMINATION AND NEW LEASE FOR THE, UH, INTENT. THE DAS SYSTEM AT THE, UH, CONVENTION CENTER, THE RDA ITEM, WHICH IS AT ANCHOR SHOPS, WILL HAVE A 25% INCREASE IN THEIR RENT. SO THEY WILL BE, UH, ESCALATING FROM APPROXIMATELY $5,000 A MONTH, OR I'M SORRY, $68,000 A YEAR IN REVENUE FOR THE CITY TO $85,000 A YEAR WITH 3% ESCALATIONS. UH, WE HAVE A SECURITY DEPOSIT FROM THE TENANT THAT WILL REMAIN ON HAND WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER SITE. UH, WE, SINCE THEY PAY PERCENTAGE OF SALES, I'M SORRY, A PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUES THAT THEY GENERATE FROM THE WIRELESS PROVIDERS, AND THERE REALLY HAS NOT BEEN MUCH CHANGE ON THAT. WE DID NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO GET A ONE TIME $25,000 RENT PAYMENT, UM, UPON EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT, BOTH AGREEMENTS WOULD BE EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2025 AND BE FOR NINE YEARS, 364 DAYS. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AS WELL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. YEAH, I'LL SECOND THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL SHOW THIS RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LEASE EXTENSION AS PRESENTED, AND WE'LL SHOW BOTH TO COMMISSIONER SU SUAREZ AND THEN COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL. SO IT PASSED. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS MB 41. [NB 41. DISCUSS A PROPOSED LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MIAMI BEACH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A PUBLIC BODY CORPORATE AND POLITIC (RDA), (LANDLORD) AND THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR’S OFFICE (TENANT), FOR APPROXIMATELY 3,955 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE, LOCATED AT 100 16 ST. UNIT 1-5, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA (PREMISES), FOR A TERM OF NINE (9) YEARS AND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY-FOUR (364) DAYS.] MB 41 IS DISCUSSED. A PROPOSED LEASE GRANT BETWEEN MY BE READ OF REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A BOUGHT, BOUGHT A PUBLIC BODY, CORPORATE AND POLITIC, RDA LANDLORD AND THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE TENANT FOR APPROXIMATELY 3,955 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE AT THE ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE. LOCATED AT 116TH STREET UNITS, ONE THROUGH FIVE, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA PREMISES FOR A TERM OF NINE YEARS AND 364 DAYS. MB 41. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, OZZIE, BEFORE, UH, YOU OPEN THAT UP, UM, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE, UH, I DON'T WANT IT TO FLY UNDER THE RADAR, UH, THE CRITICAL SERVICE THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO MIAMI BEACH, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE PRETTY INSTRUMENTAL IN ACTUALLY HELPING FIND THIS LOCATION, AND, AND I THINK OUR CITIZENS SHOULD BE FULLY AWARE OF, UH, THE SERVICE THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO MIAMI BEACH. I WANNA WELCOME OUR COUNTY PARTNER HERE, UH, FROM DARIO FERNANDEZ'S OFFICE. UM, HE'S JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER TO, UH, TO OUR CITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER. BUT COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, WHY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST KIND OF, UH, TEE UP WHAT, WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO MIAMI BEACH. THANK YOU, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND IT REALLY IS, UH, GREAT TO SEE THIS PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE AND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, UH, TO BRING THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE HERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RENEW THEIR, UH, TAG REGISTRATIONS, THEY CAN GET NEW DRIVER'S LICENSES, UH, AND ADDRESS OTHER ESSENTIAL AND VITAL COUNTY SERVICES RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. WE HAD THIS, UH, SPACE, UH, THAT, UH, WAS PREVIOUSLY UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ANOTHER LEASE. I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO LEASE IT OUT TO A BARBERSHOP. IT WAS A BARBERSHOP AND A CAFE, BUT YEAH, A BARBERSHOP AND, AND, AND A CAFE. GREAT SERVICES. YES. UM, BUT, BUT I KNOW YOU DID NOT UTILIZED BY OZZY. MY OZZY MIGHT NOT NEED THE BARBERSHOP , BUT, UM, BUT WE FELT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC AND THE SERVICES THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FROM US, UH, TO CONSIDER INSTEAD REACHING OUT TO THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE AND SEE HOW THEY COULD BEST USE THIS, THIS SPACE. AND AS YOU MENTIONED, I BE REMISS NOT TO THANK OUR TAX COLLECTOR, DR. FERNANDEZ AND HIS OFFICE, UH, MANNY ORBIS, UH, RA MUNDO, UM, DELGADO, WHO'S PRESENT IN OUR MEETING TODAY FOR THEIR COLLABORATION AND FOR THE WORK IN BRINGING THESE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS RIGHT HERE IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY ABOUT, [00:15:01] ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. IT'S A GREAT DEAL. IT'S OCCUPYING ALL OF THE VACANCIES WE HAVE ON 16TH AVENUE AT, AT ANCHOR SHOPS AND GARAGE. IT'S MARKET RENTS, TRIPLE NET LEASE. THEY'RE PROVIDING INCREDIBLE SERVICES AND, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING A COMPLETE BUILD OUT. WE SHOULD BE GETTING RENDERINGS PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW SOME RENDERINGS, UM, AT THAT MEETING. UM, IN, IN LIEU OF ANY TENANT ALLOWANCE, WE ARE GONNA BE PROVIDING A 10 MONTH RE ABATEMENT FOR THEM AFTER THE COMMENCEMENT DATE OF THE LEASE TO ALLOW THEM TO RECOVER, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, THE INVESTMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THE SPACE. AND THEN THEY'RE READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. JUST A PRETTY CREDIT WORTHY CL UH, TENANT. CORRECT. VERY WORTHY TENANT. I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST RECENTLY. . THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND. THANKS. SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM RETURN TO COMMISSIONER OF FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LEASE AS PRESENTED. UH, ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. SHALL PASS THREE. NOTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN CHAIR THE, THE NEXT TIME. CERTAIN THANK YOU. UH, THE NEXT TIME CERTAIN IS, [NB 45. DISCUSS THE CREATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A ONE MIAMI BEACH CALL TO ACTION FOR INCREASED PROACTIVE SERVICE DURING IMPORTANT MOMENTS, ACTIVATE DEPARTMENT-WIDE TEAMS TO RESPOND WITH AN EMPHASIS ON CITYWIDE RESPONSIVENESS, CLEANLINESS AND SETTING CULTURE FROM THE TOP OF LEADERSHIP.] UH, MB 45, DISCUSS THE CREATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A ONE MILE BEACH CALL TO ACTION FOR INCREASED PROACTIVE SERVICE. DURING IMPORTANT MOMENTS, ACTIVATE DEPARTMENT WIDE TEAMS TO RESPOND WITH AN EMPHASIS ON CITYWIDE RESPONSIVENESS, CLEANLINESS, AND SETTING CULTURE FROM THE TOP OF LEADERSHIP AND B 45. ME, UH, MR. CITY MANAGER, I, I WANNA WELCOME YOU. AND JUST TO TEE UP, UH, WHAT THIS IS, UM, THIS IS ABOUT SITTING CULTURE FROM THE TOP AND TRULY PROVIDING, UH, AN ALL HANDS ON DECK SERVICE FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. AND CAME TO ME THROUGH A COUPLE ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES. AND I THINK THIS IS VERY TIMELY. AS WE APPROACHED FLOOD SEASON, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL MOMENTS, UH, BUT TWO REALLY STOOD OUT. UM, ONE IN THE RECENT FLASH FLOOD IN, UH, I FOUND MYSELF OUT PROVIDING ALMOST, UH, MOBILE TAXI SERVICES IN MY GOLF CART DURING A FLOOD MOMENT IN FLAMINGO PARK. UH, PEOPLE QUITE LITERALLY COULDN'T NAVIGATE, UH, THROUGH, AND I FOUND PEOPLE, I, I DIDN'T INTEND THIS, BUT I, I WAS JUST OUT KIND OF MONITORING OUR CITY AND PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE FLOODWATER. SO I, I WOULD TAKE PEOPLE IN FLAMINGO PARK, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU AT? WHERE DO YOU NEED TO GO? UM, AND AS I WAS DOING THAT, THERE WERE, THERE WERE QUITE LITERALLY IN SOME AREAS, TWO FEET OF WATER CARS WERE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, UH, TOW TRUCKS DEPLOYED. AND I TOOK THIS ONE LADY WITH HER, UH, NEWBORN, UM, CHILD, AND I DROPPED THEM OFF UP, UH, BY FLAMINGO, UH, THE FLAMINGO BUILDING. AND IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS, I SAW A, UM, A PARKING ENFORCEMENT AGENT WRITING A TICKET THERE. NOW THAT, THAT, THAT'S GREAT IN ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE, UH, BUT IT REALLY SHOWED ME, I WAS LIKE, WE HAVE THIS NEED TO, ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE THESE HANDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WHY ARE WE NOT ACTIVATING THEM TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN HERE? AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHO THE TRUE PARTNERS HERE ARE GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE OUR POLICE. IT'S GOING TO BE OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHETHER IT BE A COMMISSIONER OR A CITY MANAGER, A POLICE OFFICER, A FIREFIGHTER, OR A PARKING AGENT. IF PEOPLE NEED TO PUT THEIR HANDS IN A GUTTER TO FREE LEAVES DURING A RAINSTORM, WE NEED TO SET CULTURE FROM THE TOP. UH, IN DOING SO, THERE WAS ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE, UH, MY AID AND I, UH, LAST SUMMER WE WERE OUT IN THE COLLINS PARK AREA AND WE WERE HANDING OUT SANDBAGS, AND WE WERE THERE WITH A GREAT TEAM FROM PUBLIC WORKS. BRAD, YOUR, YOUR TEAM WAS INCREDIBLE. UH, WE WERE PROBABLY OUT THERE FOR, UH, ABOUT FOUR HOURS IN THE RAIN. UH, THERE WERE FOUR INDIVIDUALS FROM PUBLIC WORKS, AND I THINK WE HANDED OUT OVER 200 SANDBAGS. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER THAT HAD TO BE ASSIGNED BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENED. UM, BUT THERE WAS A POLICE CAR THAT WAS, UH, KIND OF OVER IN THE CORNER OF THE LOT. AND AFTER THOSE FOUR HOURS, SOME OF THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AGENTS WERE RATHER ELDERLY, UH, YOU KNOW, 65, 70 YEARS OLD, BUT THEY'RE SITTING THERE BENDING DOWN, PUTTING, UH, SANDBAGS IN, IN, IN PEOPLE'S CARS FOR HOURS. AND, AND AT THE END OF THAT, THE POLICE OFFICER GOT OUT OF HIS CAR, CAME OVER AND GOES, HEY, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD WORK GUYS. WELL, WHAT PREVENTED YOU FROM SITTING THERE AND, AND HANDING OUT SANDBAGS WITH US, RIGHT? SO AS WE PREPARE FOR RESILIENCY, AS WE PREPARE FOR THE FLOOD SEASON, THAT'S COMING UP, AND I THINK TODAY IS, IS, OR THE LAST FEW DAYS, ARE JUST A PREVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING WHEN WE HAVE THESE MOMENTS. AND IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE FOR FLOODING, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE START. UH, I ADDED CLEANLINESS AS WELL. AGAIN, WHETHER YOU'RE THE CITY MANAGER, THE COMMISSIONER, OR OR A PARKING ATTENDANT, YOU NEED TO FLAG THINGS AND HAVE THAT PRIDE THAT IT'S THE SAME SIDEWALK. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING IF THIS WAS A SIDEWALK OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOME AS A, AS IT IS IN MIAMI BEACH. SO, MR. CITY MANAGER, WE'VE [00:20:01] TALKED ABOUT THIS A BUNCH. LET ME HAND IT OVER TO YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THIS. CERTAINLY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE, CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, AIR CARPENTER, CITY MANAGER. IT'S KIND OF NICE TO BE DOWN HERE. UM, KIND OF FEELS LIKE OLD HOME. UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND, AND DISCUSS THIS ITEM. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. UH, SINCE I FIRST STARTED WITH THE CITY, UH, MY LEAST FAVORITE PHRASE HAS BEEN NOT MY JOB. UH, EVERYTHING IS EVERYONE'S JOB. WE ARE ONE CITY, ONE TEAM. AND WHEN SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC SEES US, THEY DON'T DIFFERENTIATE WHAT DEPARTMENT WE ARE. WE DON'T, THEY DON'T DIFFERENTIATE WHAT JOB RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE THAT WE HAVE. THEY DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE CITY AND WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, THE CONSTITUENCY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. AND SO YOU HAVE MY FULL COMMITMENT THAT MY LEADERSHIP TEAM, WHICH IS HERE TODAY, UM, IS FULLY COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS A PRIORITY AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN THINGS, ESPECIALLY EMERGENT SITUATIONS, UH, EVOLVE, WE NEED TO CHIP IN AND HELP OUT. UM, BUT NOT EVEN JUST THEN. UM, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER WHEN I WALK DOWN THE STREET AND THERE'S A PIECE OF TRASH, I PICK UP THE PIECE OF TRASH AND I PUT IT IN THE GARBAGE. I'M NOT ABOVE DOING WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE CITY TO MAKE THIS THE BEST VERSION OF MIAMI BEACH THAT IT CAN BE. I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT, UM, ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO CHIME IN. UH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GIVE OTHERS THE ABILITY TO TALK IF, UH, IF THEY SO CHOOSE. I, IF NOT, WHAT I WOULD ASK FROM YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS, UH, BUT IF, UM, PERHAPS FOR, UH, THE JULY FERC, AND I DON'T WANNA WAIT TILL THEN TO IMPLEMENT IT, BUT IF YOU COULD RETURN TO THE JULY FERC WITH JUST KIND OF WHAT, UH, AN INITIAL KIND OF PLAN OF ACTION IS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO START, UH, FOR, UM, STORMS, RIGHT? SO TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IN TALKING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT LEADERS, WHETHER IT BE THE POLICE OR THE FIREFIGHTERS, AND YOU SAY, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SUMMERTIME WHERE WE'RE PREPARING FOR HURRICANES OR ONE OF THESE FLASH FLOODS IN THE AFTERNOON. UH, THERE THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OKAY GUYS, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE IN ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS. WE'RE ALWAYS ALL HANDS ON DECK, AS YOU SAID, BUT EVEN MORE SO NOW. SO WHETHER YOU'RE A FIREFIGHTER OR A PARKING AGENT, I KNOW YOU WERE HANDING OUT TICKETS BEFORE, BUT NOW GO FIND A, A GUTTER TO STICK YOUR HAND IN AND REMOVE THE LEAVES FROM WHATEVER THAT PLAN OF ACTION LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU COULD RETURN WITH, UH, SOME SORT OF OUTLINE IN JULY, THAT'D BE MUCH APPRECIATED. HAPPY TO BRING BACK AN OUTLINE. UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, THE CHIEF, UH, POLICE CHIEF AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHEN THESE TYPE OF EVENTS HAPPEN, HOW DO WE BEST PROTECT THE ASSETS OF THE RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH. UM, AND SOMETIMES IT'S DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE BOX, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S A MATTER OF USING THE AUTHORITY THAT THEY HAVE AS, AS POLICE OFFICERS TO TRY AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM MAKING BAD DECISIONS, DRIVING INTO FLOODED STREETS, UM, THROWING WEEKS INTO PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY INTO THEIR GARAGES. AND HOW DO THEY BEST PROTECT THE ASSETS OF OUR CITIZENS. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK IF COLLECTIVELY WE ARE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE IN THE LEAD UP AND INITIAL PHASES OF SOME OF THESE STORMS, IT'S GOING TO SAVE US A LOT OF RESOURCES, UH, THAT WOULD BE OTHERWISE EXHAUSTED BEING REACTIVE, SO UNDERSTOOD. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN, MAKING TIME. MY PLEASURE. SO CHAIR WILL SHOW THE ITEM, UH, RETURNING TO THE JULY FERC WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, IF I CAN THOUGH WE HAVE THE LAST TIME CERTAIN. YES. OKAY. REAL QUICK, MB WILL IT [NB 1. DISCUSS A CITY OF MIAMI BEACH COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICY] BE MB ONE DISCUSS CITY OF MIAMI BEACH COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICY, MB ONE, AND, AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, I KNOW, UH, THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT WERE VERY MUCH, UH, ALIGNED WITH THIS. UM, BUT MR. CFO, DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF, UH, KICK THIS OFF A ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING HERE? SURE. IF I, IF I CAN, WE HAVE, THE ITEM IS ACTUALLY KIND OF BROKEN INTO TWO ELEMENTS. 'CAUSE THERE'S THE INITIAL, UH, COMPREHENSIVE, UH, CITYWIDE FINANCIAL POLICIES, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH. AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND HALF THAT WAS IN RELATION TO A REQUEST OR A RESOLUTION, I'M SORRY, UH, BY, BY YOURSELF BACK AT THE MARCH COMMISSION MEETING TO DISCUSS SOME POTENTIAL, UH, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY MEASURES, WHICH, UH, TAMIKA, OUR BUDGET DIRECTOR, WILL BE ON HER WAY TO ALSO WORK ON WITH US. SO, FIRST, LEMME TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT DOES THE APPENDIX SAY, WHICH IS THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICIES. WHAT THIS IS, IS, IN RESPONSE TO IS WHEN I GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, WHAT IT APPEARS IS THERE'S BEEN MANY [00:25:01] POLICIES PASSED OVER THE DECADES IN THE CITY BY RESOLUTIONS. UM, AND I IDENTIFIED WITH THE TEAM, UH, 14 DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS GOING BACK AS FAR AS 1994. UH, AND MY CONCERN WAS THAT IF SOMEONE WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS A 1996 RESOLUTION ABOUT ESTABLISHING A PURPOSE, IT COULD GET FORGOTTEN ABOUT. SO MY INTEREST WAS TO CONSOLIDATE THEM ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT, UH, SO THAT NOTHING COULD GET LOST. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. ACTUALLY, IT, IT CAME UP RECENTLY RELATED TO A, A SEPARATE ITEM ABOUT, UH, VILLE FINES. AND AS I WAS RESEARCHING THAT, UH, THE, THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY FILED ONE THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF RELATED TO, UH, THE USE OF LUMP SUM PAYMENTS, WHICH WAS A FINANCIAL POLICY. SO IF WE HADN'T DONE THAT RESEARCH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT, AS AN EXAMPLE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CONSOLIDATED ALL, UM, 14 DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS INTO ONE COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT. AND I JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO IT. SO THERE'S NO THERE SHOULD BE, OTHER THAN I THINK ONE ITEM I WANNA MENTION THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING RESOLUTION. SO THE FIRST SECTION ON THE FIRST PAGE OF, OF, UM, EXHIBIT A, AND IT PRINTED A LITTLE ODD IN THE BOOK. SO WE DID PUT, PUT ON, ON THE DAIS, UH, A COPY OF THAT MEMO WITH THAT ATTACHMENT A. BUT THE FIRST SECTION IS RELATED TO THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY, UH, RESERVES. WE, IT STILL MAINTAINS THE EXISTING POLICY OF, OF TWO MONTHS OF EMERGENCY RESERVES REQUIRING A SIX SEVENTH VOTE TO TAP INTO, AND THEN ONE MONTH OF, UH, UH, CONTINGENCY, UH, RESERVE GETTING US TO THE FULL THREE MONTH OR, UH, 25%. AND IT DOES LIST OUT THE POL YOU KNOW, THE POLICY ABOUT HOW WE, WE RESTORE THAT USING OUR YEAR END GENERAL FUND SURPLUS OR ANY PRIOR SURPLUS OVER, OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. UH, THE NEXT WE HAVE THE RESORT TAX. AGAIN, NO CHANGE FROM THE EXISTING RESOLUTION RELATED TO HAVING TWO MONTHS OF THE EMERGENCY RESERVE. THIS ONE ONLY REQUIRES A FIVE SEVENTH TO TAP INTO. AND THEN THE ONE MONTH OF CONTINGENCY RESERVE, I'M SORRY, IS ACTUALLY FOUR MONTHS OF GIVING SIX MONTHS. AGAIN, THAT IS EXISTS STATUS QUO AS HOW WE HAVE IT IT HERE TODAY. UM, IT DOES MENTION ABOUT USE OF NON-RECURRING, UH, REVENUES. SO YOU CAN ONLY USE, UH, ONE TIME NON-RECURRING REVENUES FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, ONETIME EXPENSES, A ONE TO ONE-TO-ONE MATCH, WHICH IS OUR PRACTICE. UH, NEXT IS THE USE OF LUMP SUM PAYMENTS, WHICH WE, WE ADDED IN. AND THAT SAYS THAT ANY 20% OF ANY ONE TIME UNRESTRICTED CASH PAYMENT HAVE HALF A MILLION MORE. A LEASE NEGOTIATION IS LEGAL SETTLEMENTS. AUDIT FINDINGS ARE THE LUMP SUM PAYMENTS THAT ARE NOT RESTRICTED. THE PAYMENTS NOT RESTRICTED, UH, MUST BE SET ASIDE FOR, UH, IT WAS TRANSIT IN THERE. WE WE'RE ASKING IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS. SO WE HAVE THAT INCORPORATED IN THERE. UH, THE NEXT SECTION'S ON CAPITAL ASSET AND RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT IS ALL EXISTING FROM OUR EXISTING RESOLUTIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE. AND TAMIKA WILL JUMP IN IF SHE CAN THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WAS CHANGED. UH, GETTING DOWN THE NEXT PAGE ON FOUR IS THE 5% OF ANNUAL FUNDING FOR CAPITAL LIENS. THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT AD NAUSEUM ABOUT THIS COMMISSION'S GOAL ABOUT GETTING THE 5%. THE FIFTH ITEM THERE IS THE USE OF GENERAL FUND FISCAL AND SURPLUS. SO THERE'S AN EXISTING POLICY THAT SAYS ALL OF THE YEAR END SURPLUS WILL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE CAPITAL RESERVE. THAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN WAIVED AND USED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, MOSTLY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT 50% OF THAT SURPLUS BE PUT INTO THE CAPITAL RESERVE AND THE OTHER 50% FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, EITHER, EITHER IN THE CRR OR PEGA, WHICH IS CLOSER TO WHAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN DOING IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THE SIXTH ITEM IS AN ITEM THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVED IN THE 25 BUDGET, WHICH WAS A NEW ITEM. UH, AND IT'S, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT FORMALLY MORE MORALIZED IN THE POLICY IS THE USE OF GENERAL FUND INTEREST INCOME FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT COMMISSIONER, WAS THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT, UM, VOLATILE, UH, REVENUE SOURCES THAT COULD BE MOVING UP AND DOWN WITHOUT ANY KIND OF, UH, FAULT OF OUR OWN. WE COULD HAVE A BUDGET DEFICIT. SO WE STARTED IN 25, ALLOCATING 25% OF THAT INTEREST INCOME, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND TO CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. THIS 26, WE'LL MOVE IT UP TO 30%, IT'LL BE 5% PER YEAR, SO THAT IN MANY YEARS WE'LL BE AT 100%. SO THAT WOULD BE A NEW ITEM. NEXT IS ENTERPRISE FUND POLICIES. THE CITY'S NEVER REALLY HAD THEM TYPICALLY APPROVED, BUT IT TYPICALLY LAYS OUT VERY BASIC, UM, FINANCIAL POLICIES RELATED TO ENTERPRISE FUNDS. IT DOES STATE THAT OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A DOUBLE A RATED, UM, CREDIT READING, UH, IN OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND TO HAVE A 25% RESERVE POLICY FOR THAT FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH WE DO NOW HAVE, UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE UP TO A FEW YEARS AGO. AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT RESERVE POLICY, UH, WHICH THE CITY HAS DONE TYPICALLY WHERE WE FUND RENEWAL REPLACEMENT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF THE PRIOR YEAR'S DEPRECIATION AND THE PROCESS ABOUT HOW WE GO TO UTILIZE IT AND IF WE UTILIZE IT, HOW WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND REPLENISH IT. AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT MORE IN THIS BUDGET YEAR CYCLE RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER ON RATE STUDIES. IT DOES FORMALLY SAY THAT WE SH SHOULD PERFORM EVERY FIVE YEARS A RATE STUDY, [00:30:01] WHICH IS GOOD BEST PRACTICE. UM, AND THEN GETTING DOWN INTO GRANTS AREA, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED I THINK TWO YEARS AGO THAT EVERY THREE YEARS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON RECURRING GRANTS. UH, NEXT, UH, 27 WOULD BE FY 27 WOULD BE THE THIRD YEAR. SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET. AND JASON, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE HAVING TO DO A RATE, UH, STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS COMMITTEE KIND OF UNCOVERED AND, AND I'M PROUD OF, UH, ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR, UH, ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY KIND OF UNCOVERING AND SUPPORTING WAS, UM, IMPACT FEES ON NEW DEVELOPMENT HAD NOT BEEN RAISED SINCE WHAT THE 1980S I THINK IT WAS. THE, THE, THE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES. I THINK IT WAS THE NINETIES, BUT YES. YEAH, YEAH. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT ESSENTIALLY SAFEGUARDS US FROM THOSE THINGS SLIPPING UNDER THE CRACKS FOR NOT ONLY YEARS BUT DECADES? UM, I DON'T THINK SPECIFICALLY IN HERE, BUT WE COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING IMPACT FEES ON A PR ACT BASIS AND BRINGING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION WHEN APPROPRIATE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE IF WE'RE GONNA REVIEW OUR, OUR RATE FEES. I, I THINK IMPACT FEES, UH, 'CAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE, WE ALLOWED DEVELOPERS TO, UM, RUN ROUGH SHOT OVER US PLAYING, UH, FEES THAT THEY PAID IN THE 1990S, UH, HERE UP UNTIL THE YEAR 2024. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. UH, WHAT I'LL BE LOOKING FOR IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS POLICY, BUT WE'LL SHOW IT AS AMENDED WITH THAT ITEM. UH, AND I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE ITEM I WANTED TO MENTION WAS DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T TECHNICALLY HAVE ONE. UH, BUT I USE THIS FROM ONES THAT I'VE USED IN OTHER, UH, GOVERNMENTS, UH, JUST RELATED TO ETHICS REQUIREMENTS, DEBT ISSUANCE PROCESS, AND THEN THE REFUNDINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO USE THE, THE 5% ROLE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO LOOK FOR A 5% NET PRESENT VALUE, UH, ON THAT. AND THAT SUMMARIZES THE FINANCIAL POLICY BEFORE WE GET TO THE SECOND SECTION. SURE. UM, JASON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WORRY ABOUT, UM, ARE, IS THE PERCENTAGE OF SALARIES WHEN I LOOK AT THE FULL BUDGET. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS, THAT CURRENT SALARIES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH EMPLOYEES CANNOT, UM, BE MORE, REPRESENT MORE THAN I WOULD SAY, 65% OF THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW AS A TARGET. RIGHT NOW IT'S 71%. AND I FIND THAT THAT STARTS TO GET FRIGHTENING AND SCARY. UM, IF YOU THOUGHT THAT 70% WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE WE ARE AT 71%, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT LIKE TOTAL SAVINGS, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND COMPLETING CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE THIS SAYS, I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A TARGET AND THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. IT'S ALMOST AT 90% OF TOTAL BUDGET AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO BUY TOILET PAPER IN THE SPRING FOR STUDENTS. SO LIKE LITERALLY THEY HAVE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ESSENTIAL ITEMS. THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE MOVING IN. AND I THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY, THAT SHOULD BE TOP PRIORITY AND PART OF THIS, UM, RESOLUTION. AND THEN I WILL SUPPORT IT. YEAH, IT'S UH, IT'S A GOOD POINT COMMISSIONER. AND SOMETHING THAT STRUCK ME WHEN WE WENT THROUGH OUR BUDGET WHERE, UH, UH, MUNI MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT DOES TEND TO BE TOP HEAVY WITH, UH, SALARIES BECAUSE WE PROVIDE SERVICES, UH, TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OUR CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RIGHT NUMBER IS. I ACTUALLY TRIED, UH, IRONICALLY DOING RESEARCH ON THIS VERY TOPIC, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. CFO, BUT ONE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I READ A LOT OF, UH, ACADEMIC LITERATURE AND THINGS FROM RATING AGENCIES AND, UH, DIFFERENT THINK TANKS. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES IS WE KIND OF GOT CONFLATED WITH THE COUNTY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU READ A LOT OF THESE REPORTS, THEY SAY, UM, OKAY, X PERCENT SHOULD BE FOR, UH, THIS EXPENDITURE. BUT A LOT OF LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES PROVIDE EDUCATION FUNDING. AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF SKEWED, UM, US BECAUSE THE COUNTY PROVIDES THAT. BUT ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ IS DOING, BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING WITH A SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE, CAN WE CONDUCT AN ANALYSIS OF BENCHMARKING WHERE SOME OF OUR SPENDING IS VERSUS WHAT BROADER INDUSTRY NORMS ARE. RIGHT? SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THEY TEND TO SPEND ON SALARIES. I I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, UH, KIND OF GOLD STANDARD BENCHMARK IS FOR WHAT THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION SPENDING ARE. UM, WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T BE OUT OF LINE ON THAT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE NEED TO BENCHMARK ABOUT WHAT IS KIND OF BEST PRACTICE. WELL, I THINK THAT DOING A STUDY LIKE THAT, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND MODERNIZING LIKE JASON WANTS US TO, I [00:35:01] THINK IT, IT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US SOME SORT OF ASPIRATIONAL POLICY. SO THEN WHEN, UM, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS WILL NOT AFFECT CURRENT EMPLOYEES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ON EXTRAS, RIGHT? AND DIFFERENT AREAS WILL, WILL UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND YOU KNOW, IT WILL FORCE ACTUALLY, UM, DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY ON SALARIES BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DO NEED MORE, YOU KNOW, BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, A ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATOR IN A CERTAIN POSITION. AND I DO THINK THAT THE 71% IS, UH, DANGEROUS FISCALLY. I THINK WE ARE MOVING IN INTO A ZONE THAT MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND, UM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN ALL OF THESE OTHER BULLETS HERE, JASON, WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RESERVES. SO I WOULD LIKE THE STUDY DONE POSSIBLY. I THINK YOUR MOTION IS THAT WHAT CAN I MAKE YOUR MOTION TO COMPLETE MA A STUDY OR ANALYSIS ON WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET IS. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BELL HARBOR, CORAL GABLES, LET'S LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PICK ALL THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES IN MIAMI COUNTY, ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS, AND, UM, AND BUILD IN SOME SORT OF ASPIRATIONAL POLICY SO THAT IT DOES NOT GO BEYOND. I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH 71%. I WOULD LIKE OUR ASPIRATIONAL POLICY TO BE, IT WAS 60%, LIKE WHAT, LIKE 10 YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO THAT IS SWOLLEN IMMENSELY. I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT BE CONFLATING IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS 60%. AND IF, IF I COULD JUST ADD A CO COUPLE OF THINGS TO IT AND WE COULD LOOK INTO COMPILING A LIST OF THE ADEE COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT'S TO A SALARY TAX AND BENEFITS. UM, AND I WOULD ASK, UH, AND BREAK IT DOWN. YEAH, DON'T JUST CONSTRAIN THAT TO MIAMI-DADE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF ACADEMIC RESEARCH ON THIS. I'VE BEEN READING A LOT MYSELF. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT TOO MUCH ACADEMIC RESEARCH ON JUST MIAMI-DADE. THOSE ARE EASY NUMBERS FOR YOUR TEAM TO PULL. UM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT THINK TANKS AND RATING AGENCY ANALYSIS, UH, OF WHAT INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE. SO THAT'LL OF COURSE, BE MORE BROAD THAN MIAMI-DADE IF, IF I CAN. SO, UM, WE, WE, AND I WOULD WAIT JUST ONE SECOND AND I WOULD BREAK IT DOWN INTO WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE IN PUBLIC SAFETY? WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE IN FIRE AND WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL EMPLOYEES SALARIES, UM, TOGETHER, JASON, THAT'S, I THINK A, A NICE PLACE TO START. SO IF, IF I CAN ON, ON THAT AND WE CAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON. WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME 'CAUSE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY THE TEAM'S TIED UP IN, IN THIS BUDGET, WHICH IS A DIFFICULT ONE. UM, BUT A COUPLE THINGS TO, TO THAT IS, IN MY YEARS OF DOING THIS, AND I'M GONNA ASK TAMIKA SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT, THAT METRIC IS NOT ONE THAT I SEE USED IN, IN GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW AS WE'VE SPOKEN IS, AND, AND COMMISSIONER, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, THAT IT'S PEOPLE DELIVERING SERVICES AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE IT, YOU'RE JUST REDUCING SERVICES AND IF THAT'S FINE, BUT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET, WHAT YOU WOULD JUST BE DOING IS PUSHING IT TO AN OUTSOURCE SITUATION. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UH, WESTIN FLORIDA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. WESTIN AS A MODEL WHERE ALMOST ALL THEIR SERVICES ARE DELIVERED BY CONTRACTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY FEW EMPLOYEES. SO IF WE PULL THEM, THEY MIGHT BE 20% OR 30% OR 40% OF THEIR BUDGET BEING THAT WHERE MOST SERVICES, UH, FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE OUTSOURCED. THEY DON'T HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES AS IT WERE. THAT'S THE MODEL THAT THEY, THEY USE. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THAT'LL BE IN PLAY. UH, BUT IF YOU WERE TO SAY, OH, LET'S GO FROM 70 TO 10, UH, TO FROM 70 TO 60%, LET'S SAY ON ON SALARY TAX BENEFITS, THAT 10% ON A, YOU KNOW, 400 CALL, 450, $500 MILLION IS A 40 $50 MILLION DECREASE IN SALARY. SO THAT WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN $40 MILLION IN EMPLOYEES. UM, SO THE QUESTION IS, IS, IS THE INTEREST THAT KEEP THE SERVICE LEVEL THE SAME AND OUTSOURCE ALL THAT? LIKE, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX DISCUSSION THAT THIS WOULD, WOULD DRIVE IF IT'S OVERALL ABOUT LIMITING THE BUDGET, WHICH WAS WHAT THE NEXT SECTION WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS, WHICH WAS COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ'S, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTS ABOUT WHAT THINGS WE CAN DO TO KIND OF BRING DOWN THE, THE, THE LEVEL OF INCREASE GOING FORWARD THAT WE HAVE SOME ELEMENTS WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS THERE, UH, WHICH IS REALLY ABOUT ADDING NEW, YOU KNOW, BEING WARY ABOUT ADDING NEW EMPLOYEES. BUT IF IT'S JUST ARTIFICIALLY SAYING THIS IS A PERCENTAGE, UM, YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LETTING PEOPLE GO, LET ME CHIME IN REAL QUICK AND THEN I'LL TURN OVER TO YOU. I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IN GOOD FAITH, IT, IT, IT HURTS ME. AND I CAN'T GO OUT TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND SAY, WELL, WE, WE SPEND $500 MILLION ON PEOPLE PROVIDING SERVICES, BUT WE HAVE TO SIT THERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND DECIDE IF WE HAVE $150,000 TO PAVE A ROAD, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE GOOD OF HAVING $500 MILLION OF PEOPLE [00:40:01] PROVIDING SERVICES IF WE NEED TO SIT THERE AND PICK AND CHOOSE IF WE HAVE $150,000 TO PAVE A ROAD FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE? RIGHT? UH, IT, I, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A, A BETTER BALANCE AND MAYBE IT IS THE RIGHT BALANCE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS STUDY SHOWS. UM, BUT IT, WHAT'S THE GOOD OF HAVING ALL THESE PEOPLE PROVIDING SERVICES IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THOSE SIMPLE OPERATIONAL SERVICES FOR THEM TO PROVIDE? COMMISSIONER? UM, I AGREE WITH YOU. I WAS LOOKING AT THE LINCOLN ROAD SURFACE LOTS THE OTHER DAY, AND THOSE LOTS HAVE NOT BEEN REPAVED OR THE WALL PAINTED IN SO LONG AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. AND I THINK WE'RE PAYING THESE HUGE AMOUNTS. IT'S NOT ABOUT A REDUCTION OF SERVICES. I THINK IT'S ABOUT BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND ALSO MORE, ALSO MORE EFFICIENT. AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, JASON, THAT WE ARE AT A TIME WHERE WE'RE EXPERIENCING THIS TREMENDOUS SHIFT AND ACCELERATION IN TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DO A JOB. YOU KNOW, I JUST SAW THIS APP THE OTHER DAY WHERE YOU CAN CREATE THIS TREMENDOUS VIDEO, RIGHT? BY JUST LIKE SPEAKING WHAT VIDEO YOU WANT INTO IT. YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT THAT'S KIND OF DIGIT. THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD MORE EFFICIENCY, RIGHT? AND I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A TARGET. I THINK THIS ANALYSIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BAKED INTO, UM, THIS REFORM, WHICH I CONGRATULATE YOU ON EMBARKING ON WITH US, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST KEY PARTS OF IT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE LION'S SHARE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT HERE. UM, I I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, POSSIBLY LIMITING IT TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT CAN ALSO BE ABUSED, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY CAN, THE CITY CAN, UH, RAISE THE SALARY FOR THAT SAME PERSON AND WE'RE AT THE SAME BUDGET. AND SO, YOU KNOW, HOW ABOUT IF MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT A HIRING FREEZE WHERE WE DON'T HIRE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME? UM, AND THAT WOULD REALLY, UH, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ERIC'S STILL HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IF, IF WE HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE, IT GOES THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, THE COMMISSION OR, UH, UH, A A A CONSENT VOTE OR SOMETHING. BUT I, I THINK IF WE REALLY WANNA BE SERIOUS AND, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, CUT OFF THE, THE, UH, WHERE A LOT OF OUR SPENDING IS ON SALARY, HOW ABOUT WE HAVE A HIRING FREEZE? I'M, I WOULD, I WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ESSENTIAL POSITIONS THERE ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CERTAIN AREAS LIKE CIP POSSIBLY AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT NEED PEOPLE. SO WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET ANY PROJECTS DONE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, BUT I THINK WE COULD DO BOTH. I THINK WE COULD EXPLORE A HIRING FREEZE OUTSIDE OF ESSENTIAL POSITIONS, POTENTIALLY IN SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. AND IN ADDITION, COMPLETE THIS ANALYSIS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND FISCALLY WHERE WE ARE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS, I THINK THAT THIS ANALYSIS NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THAT WE NEED TO EVEN OUTSOURCE IT TO PROFESSIONAL TO GET A ANOTHER OPINION ON HOW, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE, I, I WOULD LIKE A BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE SEVERAL BUSINESSMEN, OR YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO, WE CAN DO THIS ANALYSIS, REFER TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. OKAY. AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. 'CAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTANTS THAT LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH. THEY WILL LOOK AT THIS AND TELL US WHAT THEY THINK OF IT, AND THEN HAVE IT COME BACK TO US. DID YOU, HAVE YOU REFERRED THIS BY THE WAY, TO THE AUDIT AND THE, UH, BUDGET COMMITTEE? JASON? NO, NOT FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, NO. OKAY. I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO, MY MOTION WOULD BE COMPLETE THIS ANALYSIS, REFER IT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, REFER IT TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, AND EXPLORE, UM, A HIRING FREEZE OUTSIDE OF ESSENTIAL POSITIONS. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? YES. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME LINE ABOUT WANTING TO BE, UH, FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. IRONICALLY. UM, I HAD A CALL WITH THE CITY MANAGER JUST YESTERDAY, UH, WHERE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU WE'RE AT THE POINT OF A HIRING FREEZE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY SELECTIVE ABOUT THE OPEN POSITIONS THAT WE DO FILL. I THINK WE'VE TRANSITIONED INTO, UM, I WILL LEAVE IT AT YOUR DISCRETION ABOUT WHAT IS ESSENTIAL RIGHT NOW VERSUS WHAT IS NICE TO HAVE. AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE ON THE NICE TO HAVE LIST AND WERE NICE TO HAVE, UH, A YEAR AGO OR EVEN SIX MONTHS AGO, UM, WHETHER THOSE ARE TRULY CRITICAL TO FILL NOW BECAUSE, UM, IF WE GET THIS WRONG, UH, I'VE SAID FOR SINCE THE DAY I GOT ELECTED, RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO DO MORE WITH THE SAME OR ELSE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO MORE WITH LESS. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF WE MAKE THE WRONG HIRES AND WE KEEP GROWING THE BUDGET AND PROPERTY VALUATIONS [00:45:01] CONTINUE THIS TREND, UH, DOWNWARD, WE'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO, UM, DRAMATIC CUTBACKS. RIGHT? AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT. SO IF WE'RE MORE PRUDENT IN HOW WE'RE GROWING OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW, WE WON'T HAVE TO GET TO THAT POINT. SO I, I HAD A VERY, UM, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER YESTERDAY ABOUT OUR HIRING GOING FORWARD. UM, I'M NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE WE DOING ACROSS THE BOARD FREEZE AT THIS POINT. UH, BUT I THINK THIS CONVERSATION MAKES VERY CLEAR, UM, THE DIRECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SAY IF, IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE, WE ALL NEED, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT NEEDS REFORM AND WE NEED MORE RESOURCES THERE. I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO BROAD WITH A HIRING FREEZE, BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE JUST KIND OF IN THE, UH, THE WISHLIST, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE. UM, BUT WE'VE GONE 25 YEARS AS A CITY AND WE HAVEN'T NEEDED THAT POSITION. MAYBE NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO ADD IT. SO I JUST SHOULDN'T WE MANDATE THAT THOUGH. I MEAN, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT FEEL COMFORTABLE LEAVING THAT TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD AS, AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE GONNA BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, I THINK WE SHOULD SET THAT POLICY AND THEN THEY, THEY, THEY FOLLOW. YEAH. I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A POLICY, MAYBE IT COULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT COMES, UH, THROUGH THIS NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE POLICY IS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF MORE BROADLY, THIS IS GONNA TRAVEL FOR YEARS OR DECADES. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, WORK ON SOMETHING THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT MIRRORS, UH, KIND OF THE THOUGHTS THAT WE BOTH SHARED FOR JUNE, I, I'D CERTAINLY, UM, I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN HERE. UM, NUMBER ONE, I, I SEE THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS ITEM. AND, AND THERE'S THE PART, UM, WHERE OUR COMMISSION OVER THE YEARS, OVER THE DECADES, GENERATIONS OF COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE SAT HERE HAVE ADOPTED STRONG FINANCIAL POLICIES ON RESERVES MM-HMM . ON SURPLUSES, ON CAPITAL FUNDING WITH A GOAL OF SAFEGUARDING OUR FISCAL HEALTH. UM, WITHOUT OL, WITHOUT CONSOLIDATING THOSE, THEY RISK BEING FORGOTTEN AND INCONSISTENTLY APPLIED. UH, SO I THINK THAT THIS COMPREHENSIVE FRAMEWORK ENSURES, UH, THAT THOSE VALUES ARE PRESERVED AND INSTITUTIONALIZED INTO OUR BUDGET PROCESS. SO THAT FIRST PART I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GFOA AND WHAT THE GFOA SAYS, THEY ALWAYS KIND OF LIKE RAISE A RED FLAG ONCE A BUDGET, ONCE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A 75% TO 80% OF YOUR SALARY GOING TOWARDS, UH, TOWARDS TOWARDS 75 TO 80% OF YOUR BUDGET GOING TOWARDS SALARIES. UH, AND THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS TO THREATEN YOUR CAPITAL, UH, PROJECTS. IT STARTS TO THREATEN YOUR RESERVES, YOUR ABILITY TO FUND, UH, CERTAIN SERVICES. CERTAINLY WE WANT TO BE, I THINK THIS BODY WANTS TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY STANDARD SET BY THE GFOA. UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK, I THINK THE DIRECTION OF THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING. YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE IN FACT PUTTING UP THOSE, THOSE SAFEGUARDS SO THAT WE DON'T OVEREXTEND OURSELVES THAT WE'RE SO TOP HEAVY THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS. WELL, CAN I, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH, SURE. IF YOU DONE. YEAH. YEP. WELL, I, THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME GUIDING PERCENTAGE THAT INFORMS EVERY DIRECTOR'S DEPARTMENT SO THAT WHEN THEY DO BEGIN TO HIT THAT NUMBER, A BELL GOES OFF AND THEY SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA REORGANIZE OR BECOME MORE EFFICIENT OR CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, OR, OR, OR, OR CHANGE THE WAY THE DEPARTMENT IS RUN. I FIND IN MANY CASES WE ARE, WE ARE TOP, TOP HEAVY. WE ARE. UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO THINK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHO GROWS THE GOVERNMENT, A LOT OF TIMES WE GROW THE GOVERNMENT. UH, DAVID WOULD LAUGH AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN THERE ARE, WHEN THERE ARE IDEAS AND TOUGH DECISIONS TO BE MADE TO SCALE BACK THE GROWTH, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR COLLEAGUE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THESE POINTS EARLIER OR EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND THERE ARE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD. WHAT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD IS THAT WHENEVER YOU FUND SOMETHING, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM SOMETHING ELSE. AND, AND WE'RE USUALLY TAKING AWAY, USUALLY, I GUESS FROM SURPLUSES CAPITAL CAPITAL PROGRAM YEAH. FROM CAPITAL PROGRAMS. AND I THINK AS, AS WE LOOK AT NEW POSITIONS, WHEN WE CREATE NEW POSITIONS, WE NEED TO SEE, OKAY, ARE THERE [00:50:01] OLD POSITIONS THAT WERE CREATED IN THE PAST THAT MAY HAVE BEEN NEEDED IN THE PAST THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES OF POSITION IN OUR, IN, IN OUR, IN OUR CITY? DID WE 20 YEARS AGO CREATE A POSITION THAT IS STILL THERE, THAT PERHAPS THE NEED IS NOT THERE ANYMORE, BUT NOW THE NEED IS IN PRESSURE CLEANING AND THUS, FOR AN EXAMPLE OR, OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT? LIKE, RIGHT. WELL THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DETERMINE THAT. WELL, SO IF, IF, IF I CAN ADD, I'M GONNA ASK TAMIKA TO ADD IN A BIT HERE. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED THIS, THIS ITEM WAS REALLY TWO, ONE WAS JUST A STANDARD SET OF, UH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTAL FINANCIAL POLICIES. THE SECOND WAS RELATED TO I THINK MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE, UH, HAS BEEN BRINGING UP, WHICH IS REALLY ABOUT HOW DO YOU, UM, RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASES IN, IN THE BUDGET. UM, AND THAT'S DONE. I I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO A SALARY TAX AND BENEFITS PERCENTAGE, IT'S JUST THE OVERALL BUDGET. IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DECREASE IT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DECREASE IT. 'CAUSE IT COULD BE STAFFING, IT COULD BE STUDIES AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. SO THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, WHICH WE ARE GETTING READY TO GET INTO THE HEAT OF THOSE BUDGET PROCESS IS SAYING, WE WANNA CUT THIS NUMBER. WE CAN GO DOWN THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT MECHANISMS THAN TO JUST SAY, LOOKING AT SALARY, UH, TAXES AND BENEFITS. BUT I WANTED TO ASK THAT'S THE BIGGEST, BUT THAT, BUT THAT IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK, RIGHT? CORRECT. UH, CORRECT. CORRECT. AND THAT MAY BE, BUT I WANT, IS THAT NORMAL FOR EVERY AVERAGE? YES. IT'S VERY, IT'S WHAT'S THE AVERAGE, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE FOR, FOR A GOVERNMENT? UH, BECAUSE IT'D BE GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED WESTERN EARLIER. YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO OTHER CITIES, WE HAVE 34 CITIES IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. THIS, WHAT IS IT, 70 SOMETHING IN SOUTH FLORIDA. I KNOW 34 IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IN THAT ONE. RIGHT. THERE'S OVER 400 IN FLORIDA. YEAH. YOU KNOW, HOW ARE ALL THESE CITIES MEASURING UP AS IT RELATES TO THEIR BUDGET AGAINST SALARIES? HOW MUCH OF THEIR BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO SALARIES? AND I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ARE WE IN LINE WITH, WITH, WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS, AND EVEN IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE SO THAT WE REALLY PROTECT OUR OURSELVES KNOWING WHAT'S COMING IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEARS? SO I PREFER TO WAIT TILL WE HAVE THE STUDY. FROM MY EXPERIENCE, WE'RE ABOUT THE SAME. UM, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS OF THE COST IS ALSO PENSION. UM, WHICH WE, WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY CONTROL OVER. THAT NUMBER COMES IN AS A SURPRISE TO US EACH YEAR AS IT COMES TO YOU. UM, BECAUSE IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE BENEFITS WE'VE APPROVED AND THE CBAS AND ALSO THE PERFORMANCE OF THE MARKET. BUT THAT'S ALSO A FUNCTION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HIRE, CORRECT? YES. THE MORE PEOPLE HIRE, THE MORE PENSION WE HAVE, THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE, THE MORE BENEFITS WE APPROVE. AND ALSO THE PERFORMANCE OF THE STOCK MARKET. 'CAUSE THE DOLLARS ARE INVESTED. SO THAT'S A WILD CARD, WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND WE HAVE AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL BECAUSE WHEN THE PENSION ANNUAL REQUIREMENT COMES IN, WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO FUND, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE CUTS SOMEWHERE ELSE. IF I CAN ADD TO, IF WE CAN, I'LL ASK TAMIKA TO GO THROUGH THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY MEASURES, WHICH SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED BY THE RESOLUTION COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, UH, PATH. BUT THAT WAS IN THE SPIRIT OF, OF COMMISSIONER SUAREZ'S INTEREST. UH, WHAT THESE ARE AS TAMIKA WILL GO THROUGH, THESE ARE BASICALLY WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, TYPICALLY THIS YEAR, AS YOU, YOU, YOU SAW THAT WENT OUT WITH THE LTC WHEN THE, UM, AND THE, THE CHAIR MENTIONED EARLY THAT, UH, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL, WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN A DEFICIT GOING FORWARD, AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE MIGHT GET BACK TO BLACK WITH THE JULY 1ST NUMBERS, BUT EITHER WAY, IN MY COUPLE OF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, THERE'S BEEN A SURPLUS. AND IT'S, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT SURPLUS? AND YOU COULD EITHER, YOU KNOW, LOWER THE TAXES, YOU COULD ADD DOLLARS TO THE CAPITAL, YOU COULD ADD OPERATING EXPENSES WITH PEOPLE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE HERE ARE ABOUT, OKAY, IN A YEAR IN WHICH THERE IS A SURPLUS, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT SOME GUARDRAILS IN THERE. RE THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS. 'CAUSE THESE ARE GUARDRAILS YOU'D HAVE TO LIVE BY, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY TO SAY, OKAY, WELL IF WE HAVEN'T MET OUR CAPITAL REQUIREMENT GOAL, YOU KNOW, AT X PERCENTAGE OF HAVE IT, OF THAT SURPLUS, SHOULD THE THEORY CAN BE PUT ASIDE SO THAT IF FUTURE COMMISSIONS WON'T SPEND THAT AS IT WERE. BUT TAMIKA, IF YOU COULD WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. WE HAVE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THIS IS, THIS IS ON PAGE TWO, BUT THIS IS AGAIN, JUST, JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL IN FOCUS HERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE SPENDING MONEY, NOT HOW TO SPEND OUR SURPLUS MONEY. YEAH. RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS INSIGNIFICANT. THIS IS TWO THINGS. SO I THINK ONE, THIS IS GONNA BE DISCUSSING ABOUT ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES, WHETHER IT'S ADDING IT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS OR SOME, SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO MID-YEAR, UH, WHICH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EVERY MONTH WE HAVE THEM. THE OTHER ONE ABOUT IF YOU WANTED TO CUT THE BUDGET, THAT WOULD, WOULD BE A DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IS X, WE PRESENTED THE, THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL, BE X AND SAY, NO, WE WANNA CUT $20 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND [00:55:01] THEN, OR A DOLLAR, A PERCENTAGE, WHATEVER IT IS. AND THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD COME BACK WITH A, A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE WOULD MEET THAT, UH, BUDGET POLICY. LEMME JUST ASK HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MUCH ARE THESE MIDYEAR EXPENDITURES? UH, WELL, THIS YEAR SO FAR WE'VE APPROPRIATED ABOUT 1.4 MILLION OFF OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES FOR MID-YEAR. AND ABOUT THE 200, HOW MUCH OF IT WAS RECURRING? 200? IT WAS, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH OF IT WAS RECURRING? MOST, MOST OF IT WAS ONE TIME, BUT THERE WAS SOME STAFF ADDED. NO, I, I DON'T WANNA SAY OKAY. JUST, I JUST HAD ONE POINT GOING TO IT ALL. CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING? BECAUSE I TOLD, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S 1.4, BUT USUALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE BUDGETING AS PART OF OUR BUDGET. I THINK IT'S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT A CITY OF OUR SIZE, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THESE MID-YEAR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET AND BUDGET SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME. THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO SUPPORT OR WE SHOULD SUPPORT. I THINK WE SHOULD BE BUDGETING FOR THAT RATHER THAN IT COMING FROM, FROM OUR RESERVES. UM, BECAUSE IN, IN, IN REALITY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SIZE OF OUR BUDGET, THAT'S A VERY SMALL PART OF, OF OUR BUDGET. OH, I CAN SAY THAT. UM, TWO YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSION APPROVED A RECURRING ADDITION TO RESERVES OF 3 MILLION, DO APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION. IT WAS 3,028,000 SPECIFICALLY, UM, TO BE FUNDED TO, TO ADD TO RESERVES, UH, DURING THE BUDGET YEAR, WHICH WAS NEW TO THE CITY, WHICH WAS GOOD, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY. BUT EFFECTIVELY THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THESE MID-YEAR THINGS, YOU'RE JUST REDUCING THAT AMOUNT TO RESERVES AND THAT'S NOT GOOD. SO EFFECTIVELY IT IS, IT IS BUDGETING OF THAT. UM, NOT THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY RECOMMEND IT, BUT IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THE, THE COMMISSION IS APPROVING THESE MID-YEAR ONES, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD KIND OF COME FROM. AND, AND THAT'S WHERE THESE CONVERSATIONS GET DIFFICULT. WHERE, I'LL USE THE SUNSET ISLAND PARK FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WE HAVE, UH, RESIDENTS THERE THAT PAY A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TAXES AND THEY COME AND SAY, WE, WE REALLY THINK WE DESERVE THESE TYPES OF ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR PARK. THE TOTAL A MILLION DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO, UM, 0.1% OF, UH, OF OUR BUDGET AND WE SAY, WELL, WE HAVE $500 MILLION OF, UH, SALARY AND EXPENSES, SO YOU COULD GET THESE ENHANCEMENTS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE VERY TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO CONVEY. UM, SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE PAY 70% OF OUR SALARIES TO PROVIDE SERVICES, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCRETIONARY MONEY, UH, AS THINGS COME UP, AS MY COMMISSIONER PUTS IT MM-HMM . THEN IT BECOMES, ARE WE TRULY, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT ALLOCATION, UH, ALIGNED COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ. AND THEN LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA CLOSE ANYTHING OUT HERE. UH, BUT I THINK YOU, YOU'VE HEARD US LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT WHERE WE'D LIKE THIS TO COME BACK IN A MONTH'S TIME. NO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK IT IS RESPONSIBLE JASON, UM, TO TAKE SURPLUS AND ADD IT TO CAPITAL PROJECTS. BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS AND PUTTING IT INTO OPERATING. AND THAT IS NOT GOOD OR SUSTAINABLE OR SOLID FISCAL POLICY. SO I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT WHEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE RECENT STUDY FROM THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, AN AVERAGE IS LIKE 61 SALARIES AND WAGES, 61.8% OF A BUDGET. SO I THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS A GOOD START. AND, UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO, IF I WANNA REFER TO THE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION AND FROM COMMISSION REFER Y YES. I, IF YOU WERE GONNA REFER TO COMMITTEE, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST BUDGET. 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY THEIR PURVIEW, NOT THE AUDIT, WHICH IS REALLY ABOUT AUDITS. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO YES, WE WOULD'VE TO RETURN TO COMMISSION THEN TO REFER IT TO THE BAC TO DISCUSS, UH, THIS POLICY. UM, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE, UH, STAFF ADMINISTRATION TO PREPARE A PERCENTAGE GENERAL FUND BUDGET ON SALARY TAX AND BENEFITS, UH, FOR THEM TO, UH, FOR THE BAC. AND THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THEN RETURNING BACK TO FERC, SHOULD WE REFER AFTER WE HAVE THE BAC RECOMMENDATION, SHOULD WE REFER IT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TOO, SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT? YOU DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY EXPERTISE? I DON'T. IT'S REALLY IN THEIR PURVIEW. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY IN THEIR PURVIEW. IT'S THE B THIS IS RIGHT UP TO B'S ALLEY. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. WHERE THE AUDIT REALLY JUST DEALS WITH LIKE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL AUDIT AND THE OIG AUDITS. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO REFER IT TO THE BUDGET COMMISSION, ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK OF THIS POLICY AND HOW WE COULD IMPROVE, UM, UPON THIS POLICY. AND ALSO, UH, BRING THIS BACK TO US IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. DO YOU THINK TWO MONTHS OR DO YOU WANT IT NEXT MONTH? WELL, WE'LL REFER IF WE CAN, WE WILL GET IT. UM, IT'LL GO TO COMMISSION THEN, UH, AT THE JUNE MEETING, AND THEN IT'LL SEND IT TO BAC C IT'LL GET ON THE BAC CYCLE AND IT WOULD JUST COME BACK, UH, WHENEVER THAT WOULD BE, I DUNNO IF THAT WOULD END UP IN SEPTEMBER OR, OR WHATNOT. WE, WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS COMPLETED BY RIGHT. ALL THAT OFFICE, ALL THAT WORK HAS TO HAPPEN TOO. SO, SO YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IN JULY, OR I THINK IF WE JUST LET IT TO BE REFERRED TO THE BAC C AND THEN RETURN TO FERC, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME, TIME ALLOWS. UH, [01:00:01] BUT WE'LL OBVIOUSLY GET IT BACK. WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE JUNE COMMISSION MEETING AND GET THE CLOCK ROLLING ON THIS. 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME, YOU MEAN A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO GET DONE, MEAN? YOU MEAN JUST PUT IT ON AS A REFERRAL? IT, NO, IT WOULD GO BACK TO COMMISSION AS THE C SEVEN, UH, REFERRAL TO, UH, BAC BASIC. OKAY. WELL, LET'S, LET'S START THERE. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO BRING, I WOULD BRING THIS BACK HERE IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE JASON, LIKE YOU NEED TIME, RIGHT? I, I JUST DON'T WANT, IF, IF IT'S OKAY, I WOULD PREFER NOT HAVING A TIMELINE ON GETTING BACK TO FERC BECAUSE IT DOESNT GO BC, THEN THE BC AS THE GIVE ITS RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO FERC. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT JULY OKAY, SO WHENEVER, OKAY. SO WITHOUT A TIME CONSTRAINT ON, YEAH. AND REMEMBER, ALL OF, MOST OF THE ITEMS, ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICY ALREADY EXIST IN STANDING RESOLUTION. SO THERE ISN'T, UM, A TIME, A CLOCK, I GUESS AS IT RELATES TO, TO MOST OF THE, THESE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE. 'CAUSE WE'RE MOST OF THESE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING. BUT IF, IF THAT'S FINAL ON THAT, WHAT I, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE, BECAUSE THERE, THERE WAS THE SECOND PART OF THIS ITEM RELATED TO COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE'S ITEM ON THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY MEASURES RELATED TO, AND THEY, THEY ARE, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO HEAR. 'CAUSE THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITEMS THAT TAKEN UPON YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE, AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS UPCOMING 26 BUDGET PROCESS. SO I THINK YOU MAY WANNA HEAR THESE. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO ATTEND THE BUDGET, UM, THE BUDGET COMMITTEE HEARING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM, UM, CPAS AND PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THE BUDGET THAT HAVE A LOT TO SAY, AND SOMETIMES THEY SCREAM AT ME, ESPECIALLY ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN TAKING O YOU KNOW, CAP TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM CAPITAL AND TRANSFERRING IT INTO OPERATING. I HEAR THAT A LOT. A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND IF I CAN JUST BEFORE, I REALLY DO WANT TAMIKA TO GO THROUGH THAT, BUT I, I JUST WANT IT TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AND WITH TAMIKA AND I'S, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN TAKING SOME MEASURES TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELEMENTS. I THINK A LOT OF YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT GROWTH IN THERE. THE, THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED, UH, PUTTING, SETTING ASIDE $3 MILLION OF THAT OPERATING BUDGET TO GO TO RESERVES, WHICH IS BASICALLY UNSPENT. YOU'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THAT 3 MILLION, UH, THAT WAS GOOD. A MILLION DOLLARS GOING TO CAPITAL RESERVE. THAT'S NEW. THAT WAS PASSED A YEAR OR TWO AGO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S POSITIVE. THE, THIS COMMISSION JUST PASSED THIS, THIS CURRENT BUDGET CYCLE THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE GENERAL FUND INTEREST INCOME, WHICH IS GONNA BE 2.2 0.4, $2.4 MILLION, THAT'S MORE GOING TO CAPITAL. SO THE PERCENTAGES OF DOLLARS GO INTO CAPITAL HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER THE YEARS. AND THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING TOWARDS THAT PO I THINK TOWARDS THAT CONCEPT THAT THIS, THIS, UH, COMMITTEE IS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT GETTING OPERATING DOLLARS AND GETTING THAT INTO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. BUT ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL, WE WILL, WE'LL SHOW, UH, A, A MOTION TO RETURN TO COMMISSION, UH, TO REFER THIS TO THE, REFER THIS POLICY TO THE BAC ALONG WITH A ANALYSIS, THE PERCENTAGE GENERAL FUND BUDGET ON SALARY TAX AND BENEFITS, AND THEN RETURN TO FERC WITH, UH, BACS RECOMMENDATION. EXCELLENT. SO IF I CAN SHOW WHO WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION? YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? I SURE I'M MAKING THE MOTION. OKAY. SORRY. I THINK THERE'S MR. YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECOND. DID DID YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH, I, I ALWAYS DO. OKAY. LARRY SCHAFER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. LARRY. HELLO. UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING THIS. I KNOW THIS IS A COMBINATION OF JOE'S ITEM AND DAVID'S ITEMS, AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO JUST A VARIETY OF ITEMS RELATED TO FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND REALLY STARTING TO TAKE A LOOK AT CAN WE TIGHTEN OUR BELTS BEFORE TIMES GET BAD? UM, SO THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS REALLY BEHIND THESE EFFORTS. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING IS, IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE ON ZOOM SO THAT WE CAN, UH, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THANKS FOR DOING ALL THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE HYBRID, SO THEY MEET IN PERSON. UM, PEOPLE ARE INVITED TO COME, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A TEAMS LINK, SO PEOPLE CAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THOSE MEETING. YEP. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, UH, COMMERS GONZALEZ MADE THAT, UH, MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. OH, YES. JOANNE MOORE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. A YOHAN WELCOME. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD MORNING STILL EVERYONE. THANKS, UM, FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. I WASN'T ACTUALLY SIGNED IN TO LISTEN TO THAT, BUT FOUND IT SO FASCINATING. UH, I'M GLAD I'M NOT IN YOUR SEATS SINCE, UH, IT IS APPARENTLY UNLIKELY OR, UH, UNCERTAIN IF YOU WILL, UH, UH, REACH ITEM NB 30 TODAY. BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE META ANALYSIS THAT I SEE YOU ALL, UH, ENGAGING IN, I CAN ONLY ECHO COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE'S WORDS BACK TO HIM. AND TRUST ME, I'M NOT ADVOCATING CUTTING ANY STAFF POSITIONS OR ANYTHING, THOUGH. THERE MAY BE REDUNDANT ONES, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT IRRESPECTIVE OF OTHER [01:05:01] OBLIGATIONS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS CONCENTRATED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS ARE NOT FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES DUE TO UNAFFORDABLE UTILITY RATE INCREASES. SO I WOULD JUST ADD THAT BACK INTO YOUR BROADER DISCUSSION. PLEASE DO NOT THROW OUT THE, UH, UH, BABY THAT IS NB 30 WHEN YOU GET TO IT WITH THE BATH WATER THAT MAY IN FACT BE EXCESS FAT TO BE CUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, ALL, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SHOW PAST THREE, I THINK, BUT I, I STILL, THAT WAS THE MAIN ELEMENT THAT TAMIKA PLEASE WALK US THROUGH AND THESE ARE ELEMENTS FOR YOU. I, I THINK FOR THE COMMITTEE TO LISTEN TO AND CONSIDER, UH, YOU KNOW, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AS WE GET LOOK FOR GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS, AND IT'S NOT ONLY THIS BUDGET PROCESS, IT'S REALLY KIND OF GOING FORWARD ALSO. AND SOME OF IT COULD END UP BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE POLICY. ALRIGHT, SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE IS THAT ANY SURPLUS THAT WE HAVE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A POLICY THAT AT YEAR END, ANY EXCESS BE USED FOR FIRST RESERVES AND THEN FOR CAPITAL. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW, ANY SURPLUS, IF ANY, UM, AT THIS POINT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFICIT. UH, BUT WE ARE HOPING BY THE JULY 1ST VALUES COME IN, WE MAY HAVE A SMALL SURPLUS. SO ONE RECOMMENDATION IS TO JUST TRANSFER ALL OF THAT CAPITAL IN, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING WHAT YOU ALL ARE RECOMMENDING. SO THAT WOULD REDUCE OUR ABILITY TO HAVE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WOULD BE A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW, BUT IT WOULD BE, UM, TRANSFERRING MORE OF YOUR SURPLUS TO CAPITAL VERSUS USING IT FOR NEW OPERATING EXPENSES. YEAH. JASON, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO SAY, UH, THAT IS AUTOMATIC GIVEN THAT OUR RESERVE LEVELS ARE AT X AMOUNT, WHICH IS AN ADEQUATE LEVEL, RIGHT? WE, WE DON'T WANT, AND THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, TO, I THINK TO THAT POINT IS IF YOU PUT THE, A GUARDRAIL ON IT TO SAY THAT, UM, IN A YEAR IN WHICH THERE IS A SURPLUS, UH, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE IN, IN THE BUDGET, ASSUMING THE CITY HAS MET ITS RESERVES REQUIREMENTS AND MET THE 5% CAPITAL FUNDING GOAL, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE SURPLUS COULD BE UTILIZED FOR WHATEVER PURPOSES. IF YOU HAVEN'T MET BOTH OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE ALWAYS MEET THE, THE NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE ALWAYS MET THE RESERVE, BUT WE HAVEN'T MET THE 5% THAT IT DOESN'T, IT COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU COULD SAY 75%. SO LET'S SAY 75% SAY, OKAY, THE, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET THE CITY MANAGER WILL PROVIDE IN JULY, 75% OF THAT SURPLUS, UH, MUST GO TO CAP TO CAPITAL PROJECT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE MEET THE 5% GOAL. UM, AND THEN THE COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS, UH, WILL AND ALWAYS SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, YOU KNOW, OVERRIDE THAT OR, OR MAKE CHANGES TO IT. SAY, LOOK, THIS IS A, A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THIS YEAR, AND WE, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BIT LESS FROM CAPITAL AS AN EXAMPLE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IS IN THE YEARS IN WHICH WE DON'T MEET THE RESERVE REQUIREMENT, WHICH WE HAVE TYPICALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT THE 5% CAPITAL HASN'T BEEN MET IN MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, UM, YOU COULD DIRECT THE POLICY TO SAY THAT THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET IS PRESENTED WITH X PERCENTAGE, UH, OF THE SURPLUS ADDED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS. YES. I, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE CAVEAT THAT OUR RESERVE LEVELS, UH, ARE AT, RIGHT, THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO, THE TWO GUARDRAILS. AND, AND IF YOU MEET BOTH OF THOSE, IF BOTH OF THOSE ARE MET, WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, YES, WE'VE MET BOTH OF THOSE GOALS, THEN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET COULD SHOW THE SURPLUS, YOU KNOW, BEING RECOMMENDED FOR OTHER, OTHER PURPOSES. I, AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT EITHER WAY WOULD PROBABLY ASSUME THAT, THAT SOME PERCENTAGE WOULD GO TOWARDS CAPITAL. SO WE THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ONE, BUT THERE'S A FEW MORE. YEAH. SO THE SECOND ONE ADDRESSES WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BUDGET DURING THE YEAR OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THAT IF THERE IS ANY BUDGET ENHANCEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT BEFORE IT GETS APPROVED, THERE SHOULD BE SOME STRATEGIC DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS NEW EXPENDITURE IS GONNA BE FUNDED MOVING FORWARD, PARTICULARLY FOR THE RECURRING EXPENDITURES. SO EITHER WHAT PROGRAMS WOULD WE CUT IN ORDER TO AFFORD THIS NEW PROGRAM BASED ON A BALANCED BUDGET, OR IS THERE A RECURRING REVENUE THAT WE COULD GENERATE IN ORDER TO COVER THE COST OF THE NEW PROGRAM? SO TO THAT POINT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR 25% GOAL, MET 2%, TWO MONTHS, UH, EMERGENCY, ONE MONTH OF CONTINGENCY, UH, UH, RESERVES IN OUR GENERAL FUND. SO WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING THOSE MID-YEAR AMENDMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, 50,000 FOR THIS, OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THIS, UH, WHICH ARE ALL WORTHY THINGS, I'M SURE THAT COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, JUST DON'T LIVE IN THE BUDGET CYCLE. UH, WE, WE DIP INTO THAT CONTINGENCY RES RESERVE A BIT. AND THEN AT YEAR END, WE'VE REPLENISH IT WITH WHEN ANY GENERAL FIRM SURPLUS THAT WE MAY HAVE, WHICH TYPICALLY WE ALWAYS DO. I THINK WHAT THE ITEM HERE IS THAT INSTEAD OF DIPPING IN THE RESERVE, THERE COULD BE A REQUIREMENT. AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, UH, A CHAMPION AND PUSH THROUGH, UH, AN ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT MADE, UM, ITEMS THAT HAVE EXPENDITURES THAT DON'T GO TO FERC, UH, BEYOND THE, THE R SEVEN RESOLUTION. SO THERE HAS TO BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION. THEY'RE NOT THERE. SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I THINK TOWARDS THAT CONCEPT, THIS MIGHT TAKE IT A A A STEP FURTHER, [01:10:01] WHICH IS A, A A BIT TOUGH, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO SAY, I WANT A $50,000 GRANT TO GIVE TO XY, Z, AND MY PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE IT FROM THIS, FROM THIS LOCATION. THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, ONE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, FOR THE NEXT, I THINK FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. I, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION. BUT THE CONCEPT COULD BE RIGHT THERE. IT'S, I'M, I'M 50,000 BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND MAYBE THIS ORGANIZATION IS A LITTLE LESS, OR WE'RE GONNA CUT BACK ON THIS VERSUS THIS. SO IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE A, AN ADDITION SUBTRACTION ONE. AND THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT CONCEPT, BUT AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE SOME, SOME CONCEPTS ABOUT HOW WE LIMIT THIS IS FOR RECURRING GRANTS. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE ANYTHING, I MEAN, ONE TIME OR, OR, OR, OR, UH, RECURRING. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT. UH, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE DIFFICULT ONES THAT ARE LISTED HERE. SURE. SO I THINK THE IDEA IS IF, UM, THERE'S AN ITEM THAT SAYS, UH, I WANT TO GIVE A, A GRANT A ONE TIME OR A RECURRING WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, AN EXPENDITURE OF X OF $50,000, LET'S SAY, UH, THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS REQUIRED TO PROPOSE A CUT OF RECIPROCAL AMOUNT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S JUST ONE PIE AND WELL, IT'S JUST THE GENERAL FUND, AND YOU'RE SAYING, I WANT TO ADD 50,000. WELL, WHERE, WHERE COMMISSIONER ARE YOU PROPOSING TO TAKE THE $50,000 FROM NOW? TYPICALLY, WE, LIKE I SAID, WE TAKE IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES, AND WE HAVE VERY HEALTHY RESERVES. UM, AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE IN MY, MY THREE YEARS HERE THAT WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REPLENISH THAT YEAR END. THESE AREN'T, UH, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, TAM IT'S BEING MENTIONED, WE'RE LIKE $1.4 MILLION, UH, WHICH MAKES TO SOME PEOPLE SEEM LIKE EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $450 MILLION GENERAL BUDGET, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A, A TON. WE HAVE GENERATED THROUGH THE Q2 ABOUT FOUR, 4.7, $4.7 MILLION SURPLUS. SO WE'RE GENERATING A SURPLUS THIS YEAR. THAT'S WHERE IT'S REALLY COMING FROM. AGAIN, THESE ARE, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. WHAT, WHAT'S THE, I'M CURIOUS, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE OTHER IDEAS? ALL RIGHT, SO THE THIRD ONE WE ACTUALLY MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET RETREAT LAST WEEK, AND THAT IS TO, IF WE HAVE ANY FEE WAIVERS OR ANY SPONSORSHIPS THAT THE CITY'S DOING, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY'RE ONLY FOR THREE YEARS. SOME, SOME ARE JUST FIVE YEARS, SOME YEARS JUST CONSTANTLY RE RECURRING. WE'D RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE LIMITED TO THREE YEARS, AND THEN ONLY IF IT'S ON AN OFF SEASON, UM, DATE. SO IF IT'S OFF SEASON, WE NEED TO FILL OUR HOTELS AND THE RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, THOSE COULD CONTINUE. BUT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN OUR PEAK SEASON, WE WOULD ONLY SPONSOR AND WAIVE THE FEES FOR THREE YEARS MAXIMUM. SO THE KINDA THING, THE CONCEPT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS IT ONLY FOR NEW ORGANIZ, NEW ORGANIZATIONS, NEW PROGRAMS THAT COME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA HELP THEM LIVE. IT'S A GOOD, OR IT'S A GOOD ORGANIZATION RUNNING A GOOD EVENT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THREE YEARS WHERE THE FEE WAIVERS, BUT AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO LIVE ON YOUR OWN EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A FEE WAIVER THAT IS LOST REVENUE TO THE CITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING IMPACTED BY, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DID WE LOSE A YEAR ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. YEAH, WELL, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, BUT, UM, SO JASON WOULD, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE ACTUALLY TO BREAK OUT FOR-PROFIT EVENTS VERSUS NON-PROFIT EVENTS? RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR SOME OF THESE EXTRAVAGA EVENTS ON THE BEACH, LIKE, UH, FOOD AND WINE WHERE THEY'RE GENERATING PROFIT, AND ONCE THEY GET ESTABLISHED, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ PUT IT, UH, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IN A, IN A MEETING, UM, ONCE THEY KIND OF GET UP AND RUNNING ON THEIR OWN, THEY, THEY SHOULD BE FORCED TO KIND OF TREAD WATER. BUT IF THESE ARE LIKE A NONPROFIT ENTITY RIGHT THERE, THERE'S NO REALLY, LIKE, OKAY, WELL GET YOURSELF ESTABLISHED AND, YOU KNOW, THEN KIND OF START WALKING ON YOUR OWN. UM, SURE. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO BIFURCATE THAT IT, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION. UM, DID YOU YES. WELL, FOR THE SEA WAIVERS, WE WENT BACK TO 2020. UM, TILL TODAY WE'VE WAIVED ABOUT $4.9 MILLION. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS, FOUR AND A HALF, UH, FISCAL YEARS, 5 MILLION A YEAR. YEAH. SO THAT'S LOST, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S LOST REVENUE. UM, AND AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE ONE INDIVIDUALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT CONTEXT IS I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, THESE EVENTS, UH, PROVIDE GOOD SERVICES TO THE CITY, UH, TO THE CITY RESIDENTS. BUT IT'S JUST AN, AGAIN, IT'S AN IDEA FOR, TO THINK ABOUT IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF POLICY RELATED TO FEE WAIVERS AND PUTTING SOME KIND OF LIMITATIONS ON THOSE, WHAT'S THE NEXT IDEA? SO, YEAH, THIS IS THE LAST ONE. AND THIS ACTUALLY WAS THE CONVERSATION STARTED. I THINK HE'S GONNA BE DISAPPOINTED. THIS IS THE LAST ONE. I SEE HIM ENJOYING THIS . WELL, THIS ONE IS A BIG ONE. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE DISCUSSION AT LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK'S WORKSHOP, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. WE GAVE THEM SOME HOMEWORK TO GIVE US A LIST OF THEIR, THEIR PROGRAMS. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE US FIRST AND THEN HAVE THE COMMISSION REVIEW AND PRIORITIZE WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT, WHAT ARE OUR MAJOR, UM, FUNCTIONS AND WHAT DO, WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE WANNA BE OR WHO DO WE WANNA BE WHERE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMM, [01:15:01] UM, CITY, AND WHAT ELSE ARE WE DOING THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ACTUALLY DO RIGHT NOW. SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A PROGRAM BUDGET, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR EX ACTUAL PROGRAMS, HOW MUCH IT COSTS US RIGHT NOW IN THE 26 BUDGETS, THE NUMBER OF STES THAT ARE BEING FUNDED WITH THOSE. AND SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE JULY FERC WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET OF POSSIBLE PROGRAMS WITH POSSIBLE POSITION CUTS. SO IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, I THINK THIS GOES TO WHAT COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, UH, BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED IN KNOW, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. YOU WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONCEPT, WHICH GAVE US THE WORK TAMIKA'S TEAM TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND DO THIS WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WAS WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A LIST OF, NOT THAT WE'RE NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THE CUTS, BUT JUST HERE, WHAT ARE A LIST OF WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE NON-CORE MUNICIPAL THINGS THAT WE, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AS A, AS A BUSINESS, IF WE LOOK AT IT AS, AS A, YOU KNOW, A, A BIG CORPORATION WITH LOTS OF DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TURN OURSELVES INTO LIKE A GENERAL, A GENERAL ELECTRIC, RIGHT? WE'RE IN LIKE 19 DIFFERENT LINES OF BUSINESS, SOME QUARTER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT? LIKE POLICE AND FIRE AND CO COMPLIANCE. BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN PROGRAMS OVER THE YEARS, WHETHER FOR ADMINISTRATION OR THROUGH ELECTED OFFICIALS OVER THE DECADES THAT HAVE, WE'VE GOTTEN INTO CERTAIN LINES OF BUSINESS, LET'S CALL IT, IF WE USE SOME BUSINESS TERMINOLOGY THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY CORE TO WHAT A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT TYPICALLY PROVIDES. DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT GOOD SERVICES DELIVERING GREAT PROGRAMS TO PEOPLE, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED CORE MUNICIPAL SERVICES. WE MAY BE WORKING IN A, IN A REALM THAT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT IS WORKING IN OR THE PRIVATE SECTOR. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, 'CAUSE COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ HAD HAD BROUGHT THAT UP DURING THE RETREAT, AND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE KIND OF SECONDED THAT. AND WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT WORK, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AT THE JULY, UH, FERC BUDGET WORKSHOP, WHICH IS REALLY ON THE OPERATING, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A MENU OF LIKE, BY THE WAY, HERE'S THE THINGS THAT WE FIND THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUT OF THE TYPICAL. NOW I'LL BET YOU, YOU GO THROUGH THAT LIST AND ONE OF THE SEVEN WILL SAY, THIS IS ABSO ON EVERYTHING. WE'LL SAY THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CORE OF, SO IT, IT WILL PROBABLY NOT BE UNANIMOUS. UM, AND IT ISN'T, AGAIN, THAT THIS LIST IS NECESSARILY GONNA BE A LIST OF NET RECOMMENDED CUTS, BUT IT WAS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND IT COULD BE PROGRAMMATIC. IF THERE'S A SAYING, SAY, HEY, I WANT TO CURTAIL THE BUDGET. I I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE IT BY XI WANT TO CUT SOMETHING. THAT MIGHT BE THE FIRST PLACE THAT YOU GO LOOK AT THAT ISN'T CUTTING CORE SERVICES. SO, UM, THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY AN ACTION ON THIS, UH, BUT WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOME IDEAS. SO JASON, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED, UM, IT'S A GOOD POINT WHERE WE KIND OF REEVALUATE AND WE MENTIONED THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW REALLY THAT IMPACT FEES WEREN'T ADJUSTED SINCE THE 1990S. UH, I KNOW A GOVERNMENT REALLY CAN'T DO A ZERO BASE BUDGETING, BUT DO WE HAVE THIS SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE IT'S SO LARGE THAT, UH, OUR STAFFING HASN'T EVOLVED AS OUR CITY HAS EVOLVED, RIGHT? UH, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE 20 YEARS AGO, UM, THAT ARE JUST KIND OF CONTINUING BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PRIORITY 20 YEARS AGO AND WE HAVEN'T KIND OF DONE A FRESH REEVALUATION. IS MILTON SITTING OUT THERE IN, IN THE BASEMENT SOMEWHERE FROM, UH, FROM OFFICE SPACE WITH HIS RED STAPLER, UH, BUT A HUNDRED MILTONS, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW CAN WE DO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ZERO BASED, UH, BUDGETING, BUT WE'RE DOING KIND OF A REFRESH AND REEVALUATION OF, SHOW US YOUR BUDGET. I'LL SHOW YOU MY PRIORITIES, RIGHT? SO WE GROW MM-HMM . DUE TO NEW PRIORITIES AND WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY, BUT DO WE EVER RIGHT SIZE, RIGHT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST GROW, BUT DO WE, UH, GET RID OF THE OLD PRIORITIES? EXACTLY. IF I SPEAK TO ME A COUPLE POINTS AND I'LL ASK TAMIKA TO, TO CHIME IN ON THAT. UM, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT A LITTLE BIT THROUGH THE PROGRAMMATIC BUDGET ON, ON NON-CORE. UH, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA ANSWER TO THAT, YOU KNOW, A, A LOT, TWO, IF WE END UP IN A SITUATION OF THE BLACK WHERE WE, WE ARE FORCED TO RECOMMEND CUTS THAT COME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY MAY BE TWO, THREE COMMISSIONS THAT GO REC, YOU KNOW, SAID, WE, WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS POLICE DETAIL, THIS CODE DETAIL, THIS PARKS PROGRAM THAT MAYBE ISN'T DELIVERING, YOU KNOW, TO THE BEST OF THE SERVICES, BUT IT WAS DIRECTED BY COMMISSION, IT WAS FUNDED, AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT. SO I THINK THAT WHEN YOU ASK FOR THOSE CUTS, IF, IF, IF WE'RE IN THAT SITUATION, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME OF THE FIRST AREAS WE GO. BUT I WOULD REMISS IN NOT MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE YEARS, AND I'M JUST SPEAKING IN MY TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATION THAT COMES FROM THE COMMISSION DRIVES A LOT OF THAT WORK. SO, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE, WE SHOWED, UH, AT THE RETREAT THAT THE NUMBER OF WORKERS ADDED, THERE WERE NON-PUBLIC SAFETY WERE 12, 14, SOMETHING LIKE THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WHICH WAS A SURPRISE TO ME WHEN [01:20:01] THAT DATA WAS PUT TOGETHER AND SAID, WOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT MORE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WE ARE GETTING DIRECTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AT CREATING TCS MANNING OF COMMITTEES OR, YOU KNOW, DOING STUDIES OR DOING ALL OF THAT WORK IS BEING DONE ALMOST BY THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO TO THAT IS OFTEN WE HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE INTERNALLY AND SAY, HEY, YOU WERE DOING THIS, WE NEED TO DO THIS NOW BECAUSE COMMISSION IS DIRECTING US TO GO DO THIS ANALYSIS. SO TAMIKA, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING ON THAT? I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I THINK THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID, UH, A DEEP DIVE INTO THE BUDGET AND OUR POSITIONS WAS IN COD. SO BECAUSE OF COVID AND WE HAD A, WE HAD TO FREEZE HIRING, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS IN OUR EXPENDITURES, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. WE DID GO ON AND USE A PROGRAM BUDGET. SO THE DOCUMENT THAT I EMAILED TO YOU ALL AFTER THE BUDGET RETREAT ACTUALLY HAS THE PROGRAM BUDGET THAT WE USED WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY JUST MAKE FREEZES. UM, WE ELIMINATED POSITIONS. UM, SOME POSITIONS HAVE COME BACK, AS I MENTIONED, PARKING FOR EXAMPLE, CUT SEVERAL OF THEIR POSITIONS, PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON FURLOUGH. THEY'VE COME BACK OVER TIME, NOT NECESSARILY TO THE LEVEL PRIOR TO COVID. UM, BUT THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID USE A PROGRAM BUDGET TO DO SOME STRATEGIC CUTS. JASON, UM, IF, SO FOR THE, THE HIRING FREEZE I ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I'D HAVE TO, I, I THINK THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF THE CHAIR THAT YOU WOULD DISCUSS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND BRING SOMETHING TO THE JUNE COMMISSION MEETING. CAN IT BE READY BY JUNE? OKAY. AND THEN ARE WE, ARE WE LOOKING AS, AS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM, UM, HIRING FREEZE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD? 'CAUSE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE, I THINK THIS YEAR IN OUR POLICE BUDGET, I THINK WE HAVE 18, UH, POSITIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO CREATE AS THEN, OR YES. AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ALSO ACHIEVING, UH, FULL STAFFING. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD A VERY LONG TIME IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS. SO ARE WE LOOKING AT NON-PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS? I THINK POSSIBLY ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY BUDGETED FOR. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD START. SO YEAH. AND IF, AND IF I CAN, THAT'S FAIR TO THE EFFECT. SO, SO THAT'S REALLY POLICY. WHEN I ALWAYS, I TALK ABOUT, UH, POLICY, THE TOP, IN MY, MY OPINION, I GUESS I'M THE CFO, WE ALWAYS SAY THAT THE TOP POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION IS THE BUDGET. SO IF THERE'S AN INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, A FREEZE, IT'S, IT'S THROUGH THE BUDGET TO SAY ELIMINATE POSITIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY. UH, 'CAUSE ALL THE POSITIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL USUALLY BE ABLE TO HIRE IS WITHIN THAT BUDGETARY AUTHORITY. BUT I DO GET TO THAT CONCEPT THAT IF YOU SAY, NOT WITHIN THE BUDGET, HE DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MEET WITHIN THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT IF THE POSITION COUNT OR THAT HEAD COUNT ISN'T IN THERE, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SAY NOT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL HEAD COUNT. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ENTERTAINED. BUT AGAIN, THROUGH, THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DIRECT EVERYTHING TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM, THAT IF THERE'S AN INTEREST IN CURTAILING SOME ACTIVITY, UH, WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR VALUE OR A NUMBER OF HEADCOUNT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PROGRAMS, WE'D GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE, WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE, THE, THE DIRECTION AND THE POLICY OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH, UH, I DO AGREE, YOU KNOW, WILL CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME. AND THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT, UH, IN SPEAKING TO WHAT TAMIKA WAS MENTIONING IS, AM I, THIS IS MY THIRD BUDGET CYCLE. I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE FIRST ONE, I, I STARTED A NEW CONCEPT IN THE RETREAT, WHICH WAS THE SPOTLIGHT. AND IT WAS EXACTLY TO THAT POINT WAS I JOKINGLY SAID, I, LET'S LOOK AT CITYWIDE GRANTS, BECAUSE I SAID THERE MIGHT BE GRANTS THERE TO THE VAUDEVILLE ACADEMY. YOU KNOW, I JOKE TO LIKE SOME KIND OF 1920S THING. I SAID, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. WE JUST CAN SET THE CHECK. AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. SO THE BUDGET'S VERY LARGE AND, UH, WE USED TO HAVE, WE DAY LONG RETREATS AND EVERYTHING, THEY'VE GOTTEN SMALLER, BUT I WANTED TO, TO SPOTLIGHT CERTAIN AREAS. AND THAT FIRST YEAR WE SPOTLIGHTED, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE GRANTS NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD TYPICALLY LOOK AT IN THE BIG BUDGET. IT'S A FEW MILLION DOLLARS AS EXAMPLE. AND WE DID DO THAT. WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE HIGHLIGHTED ALL THE SPONSORSHIPS TO EVENTS, THE CITYWIDE GRANTS THAT WE GIVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE WASN'T ANY ADJUSTMENTS DOWNWARD, I THINK ACTUALLY THERE WERE A FEW INCREASES, UH, WHERE, WHERE COMMISSIONERS ALL AND SAID, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE ONLY GIVING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT GROUP XI WANTED TO ADD TO IT. SO WE DO THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, IS SENSITIVE TO THAT CONCEPT. AND WE DO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, THOSE THINGS FOR THE COMMISSION TO, TO LOOK AT PERIODICALLY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CHAMPIONED SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE. SO COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF ALSO ANYTHING THAT'S PENSIONABLE CORRECT. IF THERE'S A HIRE THAT INVOLVES A PENSION, A SALARIED EMPLOYEE, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ROOM FOR EFFICIENCY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND, AND AS WELL AS, AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND FIRST READING, UH, I'LL WORK WITH, [01:25:01] UM, JASON AND, AND ERIC TO REALLY GET A, A, A BETTER SENSE OF, OF, OF HOW THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE AFTER BEING BAKED. AND THEN I WOULD WELCOME EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK ON IT. AND IF, IF WE CAN'T JUST ERECT IT UP, I THINK SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, IF, IF WANTED TO PUT 'EM IN THE POLICY OR WE CAN BRING THOSE TO THE BAC AS PART OF IT. AND SEE, AND I THINK THIS COMMITTEE SEEMED TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT FIRST ONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PER, UM, DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION ON PRELIMINARY BUDGET WISE TO PUT X PERCENTAGE OF THE, OF ANY SURPLUS IN A YEAR IN WHICH YOU HAVE IT TO CAPITAL PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU HIT THOSE TWO MAIN POLICY GOALS. AND I THINK THAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE TO THE BAC AND SEE IF THAT'S, UH, ONE OF THE ONES THAT THEY THINK IS ALSO A GOOD IDEA AND BRING THAT BACK TO FERC. SO, YEAH, AGAIN, I THINK THE DIRECTION, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IN IS WE WANT TO REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT. UM, AND WHERE WE SPEND OUR SURPLUS ISN'T REALLY LIKE SAVING PEOPLE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN TAXES. WE, WE WANT TO HAVE, UM, A REAL PLAN FOR HOW, HOW CAN WE BE READY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. SPEAKING OF, I, I APOLOGIES. I WAS OUT OF TOWN, UH, FOR THE FIRST BUDGET RETREAT. UM, I, I HAD AN ITEM, I BELIEVE I, I DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. IT'S LIMITING, UH, WHAT WE SPEND, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR. AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT DO MY COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT THAT? UM, JUST, JUST, JUST NOT REDUCING SPEND, BUT JUST SAYING WHATEVER WE SPENT THIS YEAR, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND MORE NEXT YEAR. YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK YOU'VE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT YOU'VE CERTAINLY HEARD FROM ME, UM, DESIRE TO BE VERY FISCALLY CONSCIOUS AND TO SEE WHAT ARE THE OLD PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES OF PAST COMMISSIONS THAT MIGHT NOT BE REV RELEVANT ANYMORE. IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE COSTS, RECURRING COSTS THAT ARE NOT ESSENTIAL, AND SEEING HOW WE CAN GO IN AND DO EFFICIENCIES. THAT WAS THE, THAT'S THAT AS PART, YOU KNOW, THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU PLACED ON THAT AGENDA, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS CONCEPT CAME FROM. YES, COMMISSIONER THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE, UM, I THINK THAT DISCUSSION MORPHED INTO GIVING SOME DIRECTION TO, TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH THAT ANALYSIS. AND SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE DO HOLD THE LINE ON SPENDING OF, OF WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR OR THE, THE REQUEST WAS TO PROVIDE A PROGRAMMATIC BUDGET ON NON-CORE MUNICIPAL SERVICES. SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS DOWN TO PERHAPS MAKE THAT NUMBER OR, OR, OR MORE OR LESS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MENU OF, OF POSSIBLE NON-CORE MUNICIPAL SERVICES THAT THEY CAN SAY, TO GET TO THAT BUDGET NUMBER, WE'RE GONNA NOT DO THIS OR CURTAIL THAT. 'CAUSE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A REDUC, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ELIMINATION. IT COULD BE A, A CURTAILING. AND, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, TODAY WE OPENED UP HIGHLIGHTING, UH, PERHAPS A CHALLENGED PROPERTY VALUATION SCENARIO. BUT WHAT WE GOT INTO AT THE BUDGET MEETING IS WE ACTUALLY ARE FACING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT HEADWINDS THAT COULD BE, NOW THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IS NOW AN ELECTED POSITION, AND HE'S CONVEYED THAT. HE'S LOOKING TO, UH, REDUCE, YOU KNOW, VALUATIONS AND, UH, READING BETWEEN THE LINES. SOME OF THE ART DECO BUILDINGS, UH, SEEM TO BE KIND OF AT THE FOREFRONT OF SOME OF THAT COMMENTARY. AND THEN FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE THE HEADLINES WERE MADE ABOUT TALKING ABOUT ABOLISHING PROPERTY TAXES. WHILE I THINK THAT'S, UH, A BRIDGE TOO FAR, UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING MADE RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY, UH, TO, UM, REIGN IN, UH, GOVERNMENTS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING, AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES THAT COULD REALLY TIE OUR HANDS AND, AND FORCE US, UH, TO BE EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I FORESEE COMING OUT OF TALLAHASSEE IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO ESSENTIALLY BE, UM, AT ODDS WITH, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES. YEAH. SO I, I GUESS WHERE I WAS GETTING AT IS HOW DOES, HOW DOES SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT ACT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY AGREEING TO, TO CAPPING OUR, OUR SPEND AND SAYING AT, AT ALL COSTS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO INCREASE OUR SPEND FOR NEXT YEAR. I, I, I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH COOKIE TO EAT, BUT TOUGH TIMES I MANY COOKIES, . OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S RESPONSIBLE. YEAH. SO WHERE, WHERE IS THAT ITEM FALL, JASON? [01:30:01] IT WAS AT THE BUDGET RETREAT AND IT COMES BACK TO COMMISSION AND WE VOTE ON IT? NO, THE, THE RETREAT, IT WAS, UH, PRESENTED AT, UM, AT COMMISSION AND IT WOULD BE, I GUESS IT WOULD BE UP TO A COMMISSIONER TO, TO BRING AN ITEM BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT RETREAT IS NOT TECHNICALLY AN ITEM WHERE, UM, ANY ACTIONS CAN BE TAKEN. IT'S JUST A, I WON'T SAY CASUAL, BUT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, OFFSITE RETREAT WHERE WE JUST HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUDGET. OKAY. I'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. AND WE WILL HAVE, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE A VERY IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION AT THE JULY, UH, FERC BUDGET WORKSHOP WHERE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE MANAGER. AND THAT WOULD BE WHERE, IF WE ARE ONE TO SAY, OKAY, THAT WAS THAT NUMBER. NO, WE NEED TO REDUCE IT BY X AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, SOME ACTIONS ABOUT THAT. TAMIKA, DID YOU WANNA AGREE? WELL, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I THINK YOUR ITEM MENTIONED IF WE COULD CAP THE BUDGET AT CPI OVER LAST YEAR. SO WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK IS THAT IF WE DID THAT, WE'D HAVE TO CUT $7.1 MILLION FROM THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ORDER TO GET THERE. WE HIT FOUR, YEAH, WE HIT 4.4, UH, WHICH WAS A, A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE HOPED, BUT I THINK IT WAS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND YEAR OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS THE EXPECTATION THAT SECOND YEAR, UH, WHEN WE HAD, UH, AN ORDER FIREFIGHTERS BEING ADDED THROUGH THE BUDGET. SO 4.4%, UM, WELL WE, ALL THOSE UNION GUYS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HARD HITTERS. THEY, THEY KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE AGAINST YOU GUYS. AND, AND JASON, JUST TO REFRESH, UH, MY MEMORY, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN, UH, SOME POLICIES THAT WILL PREVENT KIND OF SOME OF THE MESS THAT HAPPENED ON THE LAST, UH, DAY OF THE BUDGET. I DON'T WANNA SAY MESS, BUT, UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT JUST KIND OF SEEMINGLY APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE THAT WERE PUT INTO, UM, AT THE LAST MINUTE, WE PUT IN SOME POLICIES, THE KIND OF CURTAIL THAT. CORRECT. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY WHERE ITEMS NEED TO GO TO FERC BEFORE IT GETS APPROVED AS A PART OF THE BUDGET. YEAH, TECHNICALLY. UM, BUT, OR, OR WE RAISED THE THRESHOLD, RIGHT? FOR AN ITEM THAT IS BEING RIGHT. I THINK THERE'S THINGS THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. I THINK THERE'S TWO, TWO THINGS. NO, IS, IS WHAT I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER SUAREZ'S ORDINANCE CHANGE WAS THAT, UH, AND RICK I KNOW IS, IS READY TO CHIME IN IF I GET THIS WRONG 'CAUSE ME HIM WENT BACK AND FORTH. WAS ANY THERE THINK THERE ARE TWO POINTS TO IT. IS ANY ITEM THAT HAS A DOLLAR VALUE, AN EXPENDITURE TO IT THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE RIGHT, IS REQUIRED TO BE AN R SEVEN ITEM. SO IT MUST BE DISCUSSED, RIGHT. UM, AND 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE, THE, THE THRESHOLD THAT WAS CUT. MM-HMM . SO THAT WAS REALLY THE MAIN THING WAS YOU ELIMINATED THE CONCEPT THAT YOU HAD ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS IN, IN THE CONSENT AGENDA WHERE IT WAS GO SPEND 50,000 ON THIS, SPEND SOMETHING ON THIS, UH RIGHT. OR IF, IF IT CAME BACK AS A RECOMMENDATION, THERE WAS SOMETHING PRIOR TO THAT BECAUSE THE, THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, REMEMBER THERE, THERE WAS STUFF THAT KIND OF CAME UP ON THAT LAST DAY AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, HERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS. OH, WELL AT THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AT YOUR BUDGET HEARINGS, YOUR FIRST AND SECOND, IT WAS THE GRANTS, RIGHT? FOR I REMEMBER THIS, IT, IT WAS, THEY, THEY, I THINK COMMISSIONER BOT WANTED TO JUST GIVE ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO SOME OF THE, UM, AM AM I, AM I ON THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN ITEM RELATED TO THE ONE TIME ARTS AND CULTURE GRANTS 'CAUSE OF THE STATE CUTS THAT WAS ACTUALLY DEALT WITHIN JULY. AND I THINK THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT SHE HAD, UM, AT THE HEARING ABOUT TRYING TO AMEND THAT AMOUNT UP. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IT'S ALSO THE MAMMOGRAM TESTING THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER ELEMENT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH THESE SITUATIONS IF THERE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATIONS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, STAFF SHOULD BE CHECKING WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT WHAT THE COMMISSION INTENDS TO KEEP FUNDED IN ITS BUDGET. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT STAFF'S BUDGET, IT'S A CITY COMMISSION'S BUDGET. UH, AND IT'S OUR, IT'S OUR BUDGET REFLECTING THE PRIORITY OF THOSE WHO HAVE ELECTED US HERE. AND SO BEFORE STAFF MAKES THE DECISION NOT TO INCLUDE CERTAIN PRIORITIES IN THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S MEET WITH, WITH WITH THE COMMISSION. LET'S, LET'S SEEK THE FEEDBACK OF, OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPONSORED THIS OVER THE YEAR SO THAT WHEN WE COME AT THE BUDGET HEARINGS, WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANNA INCLUDE THIS IN THE FINAL BUDGET SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH, YOU'RE SPEAKING THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN STAFF DECIDED, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA INCLUDE IT IN THIS BUDGET. AND THEN IS THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL WHERE'S THE FUNDING FOR THAT? I THINK YOU'RE SPEAKING TO IS, IS ONE TIME ELEMENTS. WE HAVE MANY ONE TIME ELEMENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR THAT WE HAVE. SO THOSE DON'T GET AUTOMATICALLY PUT INTO THE NEXT BUDGET, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION. SO, UH, IF THERE WANTED TO BE SOMETHING CONSIDERED YEAR OVER YEAR, THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO SAY, LET'S MOVE THAT FROM RECURRING, I'M SORRY, LET'S MOVE THAT FROM A ONETIME TO A RECURRING FUNDING SOURCE. OKAY. UM, BUT WE COULD LOOK AT A PROVIDING A LIST, UM, AT SOME POINT, UM, THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS OF LIST OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ONE TIME GRANTS IN THE PRIOR YEAR. UM, SO THAT IT'S IN ONE LOCATION FOR IT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT PARTICULAR POINT IS IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT AS MUCH AS YOU WANNA PUT LIMITATIONS ON YOURSELF, IS THAT YOU [01:35:01] ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERRIDE SOMETHING BECAUSE SOMETHING THE WORLD, THE WORLD HAPPENS AROUND US AND IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY. YEAH. I I THINK WE JUST INCREASED THE THRESHOLD, UH, THE VOTING THRESHOLD. IF SOMETHING HADN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY CIRCULATED THROUGH THE PROPER FINANCE COMMITTEE, IF IT JUST CAME UP DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS THAT IT WOULD CREATE A MAYBE A FIVE SEVENTH THRESHOLD. AM I, AM I THINKING ABOUT THAT CORRECTLY, RICK? WELL, WHAT WE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WAS THAT IF THERE'S AN ITEM ADDED TO THE BUDGET THAT WILL BE RECURRING THAT WOULD REQUIRE FIVE SEVENTH VOTE OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF. AND THEN THE MORE RECENT LEGISLATION, UH, WAS RELATED TO ITEMS THAT DON'T GO TO FERC CAN NO LONGER GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. RIGHT. AS IT RELATES OF WHATEVER DOLLAR VALUE. SORRY. AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE BUDGET HEARINGS IN MY CAREER, IT'S BEEN VERY TYPICAL AT THE FIRST HEARING THAT THERE'S SOME LAST LITTLE TWEAK. SOMETHING COMES UP AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE FIT THIS IN? I'LL REDUCE THIS, OR LET'S REDUCE THE SURPLUS AND, AND DO THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S A PURVIEW THAT, THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO HAVE THINGS HAPPEN. UH, THE SECOND HEARING WE WOULD, THAT'S ONE WE WOULD DEFINITELY, THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE GOOD WITH IT BEING A QUICK, WE USUALLY LIKE IT TO BE A 15 QUICK MEETING. IT'S A MOVE IT SECOND PASS, JUST IMPROVING THE PRIOR ADJUSTMENT. SO YEAH, AT THE SECOND HEARING IT, IT WOULD BE MORE PREFERABLE. ALWAYS KIND OF SAY IF THERE'S SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE AT THE FIRST HEARING. UH, WE'LL BE, WOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT, BUT, OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO I THINK WE HAVE THE RESO UH, WE HAVE THE, THE MOTION IT WAS PASSED. WE'LL RETURN THIS TO COMMISSION, UH, TO, TO BEGIN. ITS ITS ROUTE AND ALTHOUGH WE, THIS DISCUSSION WILL BE ONGOING AND CONTINUOUS THROUGH OUR CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK AND THEN OUR OPERATING ONE, WHICH WILL UM, I'M SURE BE VERY LIVELY, UH, IN JULY AS WE, UH, DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE POLICY CONCEPTS AND UH, MAKING OURSELVES HAVING A BALANCE BUDGET. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S HERE ON NB 18, UH, [NB 18. DISCUSS PURCHASE OF A NEW TRAILER TO SUPPLEMENT THE CITY'S TRAP NEUTER VACCINATE RELEASE ("TNVR") PROGRAM AND THE KITTY CAMPUS.] KITTY CAMPUS. LINDA, THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM. THE KITTY MB 18 DISCUSS PURCHASE OF A NEW TRAILER TO SUPPLEMENT THE CITY'S TRAP NEUTER VACCINATE RELEASE TNVR PROGRAM AND THE KITTY CAMPUS NB 18 COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ. HI GUYS. UM, I WOULD DISREGARD THE MEMO THAT IS IN THE BOOK HERE, WHICH IS AN INFLATED PRICE AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE COST OF HAVING AN AUXILIARY, UM, TRAILER FOR THE TRAP NEUTER. AND SPAIN, I'LL, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS THOUGH. I DON'T SEE THE PRINTED COPY. I DON'T THINK WE EVER GOT THE MEMO, SO MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT TO US WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. GO AHEAD, LINDA OR HOLLY OR WHOMEVER. SO HOLLY CAT PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY. I ALSO AM THE DIRECTOR OF EIGHT AND I'M LINDA DIAMOND. I THINK I KNOW YOU ALL ALREADY. UM, PRESIDENT. SO BE KAT SPAY, NEUTER, AND ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE ANIMAL WELFARE COMMITTEE. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT MY BACKGROUND IS IN CORPORATE AMERICA, BUT NOW MY SPECIALTY IS NOT GETTING PAID . SO ALL OF THIS HIRING FREEZES. , PLEASE FIRE ME, . UM, SO THE ITEM ON THE TABLE, SHE SAYS SECURING SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, SPACE COST EFFECT, COST EFFECTIVE SPACE WITH THE KITTY CAMPUS DUE TO THE HUGE SUCCESS OF OUR PROGRAM. SO FIRST OFF, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. THAT'S WHY WE ARE SO SUCCESSFUL. AND OUR PROGRAM HAS GOTTEN ACCOLADES INTERNATIONALLY BY THE WAY WE RECEIVED ACCOLADES FROM, UM, MARS PET CARE AS IN MARS, CANDY BARS AND SO FORTH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY MENTIONED IN A CASE STUDY THAT THEY DID ABOUT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH WAS HOW WELL THE CITY, UH, STAFF SUPPORT US. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UM, THE LITTLE CASE STUDY, WHICH I WAS VERY PROUD OF. UM, SO I KNOW YOUR AGENDA'S LONG. I WILL SPEAK IN BULLET POINTS. I'M ALWAYS TO THE POINT, WHAT IS THE ISSUE OVERFLOW, WHAT IS OUR SOLUTION MOBILE, I'LL CALL THEM COMPARTMENTS, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO. SO WHY DO WE HAVE THIS OVERFLOW NOW? SO WE HIRED JOANNA, THE VERY FIRST TRAPPER A YEAR AGO. SHE HAS DOUBLED OUR INTAKE NUMBERS, WHICH IS A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE, BUT WE'RE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS AND WHY DO WE EVEN NEED TO HOLD THESE CATS? SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE TRAPS THE CAT, WHETHER IT'S JOANNA OR SHE'S TRAINING A RESIDENT OR IT'S ANOTHER VOLUNTEER, WE HAVE TO HOLD THE CATS UNTIL THEY'RE QUEUE TO GET SURGERY. SO WE HOLD THEM AT THE KITTY CAMPUS. SO ONCE THEY GO HAVE SURGERY, THEY HAVE TO RECOVER SO THEY COME BACK TO THE KITTY CAMPUS. SO THAT'S NUMBER TWO. NUMBER THREE IS WE ALSO HAVE HEALTHCARE RECOVERY FOR A LOT OF SIMPLE CASES. SO I WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE PICTURES IF YOU DON'T MIND ME BRINGING UP TO YOU. THESE COUPLE PICTURES ARE OF CATS WITH MANGE. IT COSTS $20 TO FIX [01:40:01] THESE GUYS AND THEY'RE WALKING AROUND OUR STREETS AND THEY 20 BUCKS AND IT TAKES LITERALLY SOMETIMES TWO WEEKS, SOMETIMES FOUR. BUT THIS IS NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR OUR CITY. OUR RESIDENTS DON'T WANNA SEE THESE PORT, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE BARNACLES. I'LL PASS THEM UP TO YOU. YOU WANNA PASS? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TYPICAL TIMEFRAME FOR A GET A CAT CAPTURED, SPANI, NTER AND THEN BACK ON THE STREET. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHICH OUTLET WE'RE USING TO DO THE SPAYING AND NEUTERING. SO I'LL LET YOU SPEAK SOMEWHERE. IT'S NORMALLY JUST A FEW DAYS AT THE MOST. AND SO HOW MANY CATS CAN YOU HOLD IN THE TRAILER THAT YOU HAVE NOW? WE DON'T HAVE A TRAILER NOW WE HAVE A HALLWAY. SO HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING NOW. SO IN, IN THE KITTY CAMPUS, WE HAVE TWO ROOMS THAT ARE, UH, WE CALL THEM TREATMENT ROOMS AND THEN WE BRING CATS INTO THOSE ROOMS THAT WE WANNA PUT UP FOR ADOPTION. IN ORDER TO PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION, THEY NEED TO BE VACCINATED, THEY NEED TO BE DEWORMED. SO THEY'RE USUALLY THERE FOR TWO OR THREE WEEKS. ONCE THEY GRADUATE, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ROOM, WHICH IS CALLED THE FREE ROOM ROOM, WHERE THEY CAN JUST RUN AROUND WITH ALL THEIR BUDDIES AND THEY'RE CHECKED. WE'VE DONE A FECAL EXAM, EVERYTHING, WHICH WE COULD ALL, WE DO ALL THAT IN HOUSE. YEAH. SO, BUT THOSE ROOMS WERE ALL FILLED DOING OUR TYPICAL KITTY CAMPUS STUFF. SO NOW THAT WE HAD CRAZY JOANNA WHO'S VERY IMPACTFUL, OH BY THE WAY, THIS, THIS GUY, HE NOW LIVES IN THE APOGEE, SO DON'T FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM. CUTE. SO WHERE ARE THE KITTY CATS NOW HERE'S MY FAVORITE IN THE BATHROOM TO TALK ABOUT LACK OF PRIVACY, . AND THEN ALSO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, KITTY CAMPUS THERE WAS A BIG CEMENT PLATFORM WITH A TARP ON TOP. WE'VE MADE THAT INTO A MAKESHIFT KITTY CAMPUS HOLDING PLACE, WHICH IS THE OTHER PICTURE. SO, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A HOT LOOK, RIGHT? YEAH. SO HOW MUCH SQUARE FEET DO YOU HAVE NOW? SO WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 3 30, 100 SQUARE FEET, 24. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? 2,400 SQUARE FEET? I DON'T KNOW, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO PUT 'EM IN ANOTHER LOCATION THAT'S NOT A TRAILER? THAT, THAT WE HAVE A AVAILABLE, UH, MAYBE LIKE A CITY BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S KINDA LIKE WHAT WE DID TO FAB LAB, RIGHT? AND WE'RE OPEN TO MOVING AND, AND OUR SOLUTION HERE IS, IS A PART-TIME SOLUTION. SO YEAH, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS, UH, AND HERE'S A CAIO WE HAD BUILT ON THE SIDE. SO HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO THE, SO HOW MUCH SQUARE FEET DO YOU NEED? LET'S, LET'S TAKE, LET'S, LET'S REVERSE ENGINEER WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS NEED. IF WE TAKE, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR TWO TRAILERS AND THEY'RE EACH 40 FEET BY EIGHT FEET. CONTAINERS. CONTAINERS. WE'RE CALLING THEM. WE'RE NOT CALLING THEM TRIP. THEY'RE ACTUALLY 3,200 RETROFITTED SHIPPING CONTAINERS THAT HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AND SUCH. SO, AND THE REASON WHY THOSE ARE GOOD SOLUTIONS IS FOR US IS THAT BRAD, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT COST? 35,000. I'LL OVER THE COST. SHELL, SHE'LL GET MORE INTO, BUT HERE'S THE SITUATION. THE OUTSIDE CATS THAT WE ALL HAVE HERE ON THIS LOVELY OUTSIDE AREA, WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM ALL BECAUSE IT'S GETTING TOO HOT. WE HAVE FANS IN THERE, MISTERS IN THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE DOWN. IS THAT PART OF THE 3,100 SQUARE FEET THAT YOU'RE TALKING? NO. OKAY. BY THE WAY, 2,400 PLUS THIS I GUESS WOULD BE, WELL LISTEN, I I, THE SECOND SHORT FLOOR OF THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER COULD IN ESSENCE BECOME A KITTY, A SECOND CAMPUS FACILITY. WE AT, WE LOOKED AT THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE, THE ISSUE WAS THAT WAS WHERE SENIORS WERE COMING IN FOR LUNCH AND SO FORTH, AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH CATS' COHA. THEY DID THE SECOND, IF IT WAS THE SECOND STORE FLOOR. THE ONLY, THE ONLY REASON I'M KIND OF GETTING AT THIS IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE THE VCA ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, THE OLD LOCATION ON ALTON MOVED, RIGHT? THEY HAVEN'T AND BUT THAT LOCATION IS STILL THERE. IT'S FOR RENT. WE HAVE ALL THEIR CAGES. THEY GAVE US FOR FREE. $40,000 WORTH. THANK YOU. HOLLY. I BELIEVE IT'S 20,000 A MONTH. WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING HOW MUCH, WHAT THE COST IS FOR THE TRAILERS. AND THEN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE OPERATING COST RIGHT NOW FOR THE LEASE? SO THE TRAILER COSTS, SO THE TRAILER COSTS, WHAT WE WOULD LOOK TO DO IS GET TWO OF THESE CONTAINERS. SO ONE CONTAINER WOULD HAVE JUST AIR CONDITIONING AND SHELVING. SO THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE BARE BONES. AND THAT'S ABOUT $25,000. THE SECOND TRAILER ALSO THE SAME SIZE, 40 FEET BY EIGHT FEET. THIS ONE WOULD HAVE AIR CONDITIONING AS WELL, BUT A KITCHEN, A SINK, AND A BATHROOM. SO THAT'S ABOUT 45,000. SO THEN WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LEVELING THE FOUNDATION, WHICH IS EASY. IT CAN BE ON DIRT STILL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE LEVEL. UM, HAVING A SIDEWALK WOULD BE GREAT. AND A RAMP SO WE CAN PUSH THE CATS IN AND OUT. SO WHAT IS IT, SIDEWALK? SIX GRAND. A RAMP IS FIVE GRAND. THE ELECTRIC, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME ELECTRIC PULLED OUTSIDE, SO IT NEED TO GET IT PIPED INTO THE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, THEY WOULD EACH NEED A 50 AMPS. WE'D NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT ENOUGH IN OUR BUILDING TO HANDLE THAT. WE WOULD NEED TO RUN PLUMBING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T JUST TAP INTO OUR EXISTING PLUMBING. AND I REALIZED THAT THE SINK WATER AND TOILET WATER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S [01:45:01] GRAY WATER AND BLACK WATER, THEY'RE ALL CONSIDERED BLACK WATER CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA GO TO THE SAME PLACE. AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO PAY FOR DELIVERY AND SET UP FOUR GRAND ARCHITECTURAL AND PERMITTING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT PIECES OF THIS WOULD BE PERMITTED. 'CAUSE I KNOW JUST TO HAVE A, UH, A WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING? WHAT ARE SOUP TO NUTS? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? ALL IN? SO, 130 TO $175,000. AND ONGOING COST. IT'S A ONE TIME. AND WHAT, YEAH, WHAT'S THE ONGOING COST? ONGOING IS JUST PAYING FOR THE WATER AND ELECTRIC AND SOME UPKEEP. SO WE HAVE 10, 15,000 ONGOING. SO I MEAN, IT'S A REALLY INEXPENSIVE SITUATION AND WE CAN PLUG AND PLAY WITH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THEN IF YOU FIND ANOTHER PROPERTY, FABULOUS, WE'LL PACK UP AND MOVE. YEAH. AND I THINK, I THINK JUST WHEN YOU SAY TRAILER, IT, IT HAS THIS LIKE NEGATIVE CONNOTATION. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SALE CENTER FOR FIVE PARK, THEY'RE SELLING $50 MILLION CONDOS THERE, AND THOSE ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE TRAILERS. I, I WOULD GLADLY, GLADLY, UH, MOVE IN THERE VERSUS MY HUMBLE BOAT. BUT THESE ARE CONTAINERS ARE, WE SHOULD HAVE G THE CONTAINERS. THESE ARE CONTAINERS. HAVE SOME ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME FUN. NO, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SHIPPING AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, BRAD, UH, THOSE ARE SHIPPING CONTAINERS. THE FIVE PARK SALES GALLERY. RIGHT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE PUTTING SOME MONEY IN A TRAILER OR A SHIPPING CONTAINER. BUT POINT BEING, YOU GO IN THERE AND I WOULD CERTAINLY TRADE IT FOR WHERE I LIVE, TO LIVE IN THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS AT FIVE PARK. WELL, AND IN TERMS OF VISIBILITY, SO THE KITTY CAMPUS IS ON A PROPERTY THAT HAS GOT A CHAIN LINK FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. THE TWO CONTAINERS WOULD BE BY THE SIDE, SO NOT VERY VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD 'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY FAR OFF. AND THEN THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, WE COULD ALSO PUT A NICE DRESSING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CHAIN. MAKES SENSE. TO THE LEFT, YOU HAVE ICE SKATING OR A, A SKATEBOARDING SCENARIO TO THE LEFT. YOU HAVE TO THIS SIDE. YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. HOW MUCH, OKAY. HOW MUCH SQUARE FEET IS SOMETHING YOU NEED? SO WE'VE GOT 2,400. IF YOU ADD THE, WE YOU GOT, YOU HAVE 3,100 SQUARE FEET NOW, RIGHT? 24. 2,400. AND THEN PLUS OUR LITTLE MAKESHIFT WEIRDNESS WE HAVE ON THE SIDE. AND WHAT IS THIS GONNA JUST, WHAT IS THAT POINT? WHAT WOULD THESE TWO TRAILERS BRING IT TO TOTAL? SO WHAT, WHAT IS DO THE BACK IT WAS EIGHT FOOT BY NINE. NINE FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT. I MEAN 80 FOOT BY, I'M SORRY. WELL, 40 FOOT, EIGHT FOOT 40 BY, I THINK YEAH. SORRY. ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY WERE 40 FEET BY 40 FEET BY EIGHT FEET. RIGHT. EIGHT OR NINE FEET, 40 FEET. AND THERE'LL BE 3,200 SQUARE FEET EACH. RIGHT. SO YOU PROBABLY NEED ABOUT WHAT, 3,500 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL? YEAH. AND THIS IS, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY MT SPACE? NO. NOW THAT WE'RE INPUTTING THE TAX COLLECTOR IN ANCHOR GARAGE. THAT'S, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPACE. THERE WAS A, A PROPERTY OVER ON AROUND SECOND IN SOUTH OF FIFTH. THAT'S SMALL HOUSE. IT WAS WASHINGTON SECOND. YEAH. THAT HOUSE THAT USED TO BE RAN BY UH, E-COM. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT, I LOVE THAT LITTLE HOUSE. I MEAN IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, WE WOULD NEED TO ADD ADD TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S, AM AM I MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING THOUGH? UM, YOU HAVE A SPACE AND YOU'RE SAYING IF WE'RE, YOU HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT, RIGHT? WITH THESE, UM, CONTAINERS. CONTAINERS THAT ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME AT A VERY COST, UH, AFFORDABLE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME BENEFITS TO IT. AND HERE'S WHY. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING IN THESE CATS FROM OUTSIDE, THEY HAVE MAYBE AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION, WHICH IS AIRBORNE. SO IT'S, WE LIKE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THE ADOPTABLE CATS INSIDE AND THEN ALL THE CATS THAT ARE COMING GOING THAT ARE GETTING FIXED THAT MIGHT HAVE UPPER RESPIRATORY KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN YEAH. INDIVIDUAL AREAS. SO THEY CAN'T, 'CAUSE IF OUR WHOLE KITTY CAMPUS GETS RIS, THEN OUR ABILITY TO PUSH THEM AND FIND THEM HOMES YEAH. JUST IS DELAYED. SO PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE TAKEAWAY THAT I HAVE FROM MY FIRST YEAR AND A HALF INTO OFFICE, IF THE CAT LADIES WANT SOMETHING, GIVE THE CAT LADIES WHAT THEY WANT. , THEY'RE GREAT. WHO AM I TO RECREATE THE WITH? THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A CAT IN. I JUST RESCUED A PIT BULL. SO DON'T MAKE IF, UH, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. I GOT I'LL, TO BE HONEST, I I GOT PRETTY NERVOUS, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND READING THE AGENDA. 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE, WELL THE CAT LADIES WON SOMETHING. IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS. I GO, HOW DO YOU MAKE THOSE TWO THINGS CO-EXIST, BUT DID NOW COME BACK AT SOMETHING OF, OF A $50,000, ASK IT. AND THIS ESSENTIALLY DELIVERS THE EXACT RESULTS THAT YOU WANT. 130 TO 175. YES. 170. I DUMPED THEM OUT. MY, SORRY, I WAS TALKING PER THIS COMES OUTTA AND REALISTICALLY IT COULD, COULD DISCOUNT STAFF IS GIVING ME A LOOK AT, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA. IT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2 25 AND TWO 50. AND THIS COMES OUTTA WHAT BUDGET? IT, IT'S FUNDED THROUGH SANITATION. RIGHT. JASON? CURRENTLY SANITATION. WELL, WE'D HAVE TO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND OBVIOUSLY THAT I THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE TO RETURN TO COMMISSION, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE 26 BUDGET PROCESS. UH, TYPICALLY THE CAT RELATED PROGRAMS [01:50:01] ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE SANITATION FUND, WHICH IS A, AT THIS POINT IT'S A MASSIVE STRUCTURAL, UH, OPERATING DEFICIT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE PUSHING THAT. IS THAT OR FUNDED THROUGH THE JOB FUND? WHAT SANITATION? I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING IN JUNE SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON IT. BECAUSE THESE ARE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. THOSE CATS RIGHT NOW ARE IN A TENT WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY HOT AND THEY'RE STUCK IN, IN PLASTIC. AND I MEAN, WE, WE ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR ANOTHER CATCH WRAPPER. THE PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL AND WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE THESE ARE OUR FOUR-LEGGED FRIENDS, JASON, AND WE NEED TO FUND. I, SO I HAVE QUESTION. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS. FUNDED. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. SO, OKAY. SO NOW LET'S JUST WALK THROUGH THE POLICIES THAT WE WERE JUST THINKING ABOUT ADOPTING, I THINK. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WE WANT TO HELP. YEAH. THIS ISN'T, HOW DO WE FUND IT? THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO, SO LET'S SAY WE WOULD'VE ADOPTED THE POLICIES WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING AND NEXT WEEK'S MEETING OR WHENEVER WE HAVE OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING MM-HMM . WE'LL FIGURE OUT THAT BETTER. CHRIS, WHENEVER WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING, IF SOMEONE BRINGS A MIDYEAR ITEM MM-HMM . TO SAY WE WANT TO FUND THIS. SO A HUNDRED AND HOW MUCH THOUSAND WE'LL SAY, I MEAN WHAT NO MORE THAN 2 25. WE'LL SAY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 175 AND 2 25. 2 25. OKAY. MM-HMM . SO IF, IF A, WHOSE ITEM IS THIS? THIS ITEM IS COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ. SO IF COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ COMES BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND SAYS SHE WANTS TO DO A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT MM-HMM . FOR 2 25 TO FUND THIS THIS YEAR MM-HMM . SHE WOULD HAVE TO SAY, BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM, THIS IS WHERE I'M GETTING THE MONEY FROM. THIS IS WHAT I'M NOT GONNA FUND IN ORDER TO FUND THIS. UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY MEASURES WE DISCUSSED AND WAS REFERRED TO BEC FOR MORE, UH, MORE DISCUSSION. SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE THE COMMISSION MORE TRANSPARENCY AS TO THE CITY'S ACCOUNTS AND FUNDS IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHERE ARE WE NOT GONNA FUND SOMETHING IN ORDER TO FUND SOMETHING ELSE. 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, POTS OF MONEY OUR END. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CITY'S MM-HMM . ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSIBILITY. WELL, I THINK COMMISSIONER, ANY COSTS, SO COMMISSIONER WILSON GONZALEZ, LIKE WHERE WOULD WE, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE NOT FUND MM-HMM . IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS? BECAUSE WE NEED TO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I NEVER SAID IF THE POLICY EXCUSE THAT I SUPPORTED THAT POLICY AND I DON'T SUPPORT THAT POLICY BECAUSE THIS IS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. IT IS NOT A RECURRING EXPENSE. NOT ALL EXPENSES ARE CREATED EQUAL AND CERTAIN EXPENSES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE LIKE A, A CERTAIN EXPEDIENCY TO THEM THAT OTHERS DON'T. SO A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, UH, DOESN'T WORK, ESPECIALLY WITH ONE TIME EXPENSES. SO I, I WOULD NOT BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CUTTING ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES FUNDING MEASURES OR SOME COMMUNITY PROGRAM TO, YOU KNOW, EXPAND ANOTHER PROGRAM. WHICH IS WHY I'M SAYING THAT WHERE WE NEED TO CUT IN THE GENERAL FUND IS THE 71% OF SALARIES. UM, AND REDUCE THAT AMOUNT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE OTHER ISSUES. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PLAYING AROUND WITH A VERY SMALL POT OF MONEY IN RELATION TO THE OVERALL BUDGET. AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO GIVE JASON, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW SALARIES ARE AT 71%. AND I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS IS NOT GOING TO, UH, AFFECT ANY EXISTING EMPLOYEE. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGETS MOVING FORWARD AND SEEING HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ORGANIZE YOUR DEPARTMENTS EFFICIENTLY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE, IT'S NOT A CUTTING OF SERVICE SERVICES, JASON. IT'S LOOKING AT CURRENT POSITIONS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. SO THAT I'M NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT POLICY, WHICH IS WHY I REFERRED IT TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO ATTEND THAT HEARING, EXPLAIN MY CONCERNS. AND, UM, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT POLICY. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA CUT, YOU KNOW, IGUANAS FOR CATS OR, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR CATS OR TURTLE FUNDING FOR CAT. YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A GOOD OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE POLICIES JUST NOW AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT POLICIES, UH, JASON, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE THEN INCUMBENT UPON US TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IMPORTANT LIKE THIS. I MEAN, DOES THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT THIS REQUEST? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CRITICAL NEED. SO IT'S A CRITICAL NEED. IT, IT, IT IS A CRITICAL NEED THAT A COMMISSIONER WANTS TO BRING FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT THEN THE POLICY BEING RECOMMENDED TO US BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND SAYING, YEAH, BUT YOU, THE COMMISSION HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT. YOU, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO NEED TO SAY WHERE WE NEED TO CUT IN ORDER TO FUND IT. JASON, THAT'S WHAT YOUR POLICY IS THEN. THAT'S JUST THE RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF, UH, [01:55:01] POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND I DID MENTION THAT WAS BY FAR THE MOST DRACONIAN, UH, ONE WHEN I KNEW THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT. AND IF YOU WERE GONNA, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN THAT KIND OF CONCEPT, I COULD SEE IT BEING PERTAINED TO RECURRING PERHAPS MAYBE ONE TIME, ONE TIME MAY SEEM A LITTLE TOO MUCH RECURRING. I CANING UNDERSTAND RECURRING. IT CERTAINLY MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE. UM, BUT JUST BACK TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THE SANITATION IS AT A DEFICIT. IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, UH, FIGURED OUT THE WASTE HAULER SITUATION YET? THERE'S A COUPLE ELEMENTS TO IT. ONE IS THE COMMISSION IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE ADDED A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS, WHICH, UH, KIND OF PUSHED IT FURTHER DOWN THAT LINE. AND, BUT FROM THE REVENUE SOURCE PERSPECTIVE, THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE. COMMISSIONER BOT CHAMPIONED, UH, AN ADJUSTMENT RELATED TO THE ROLL OFFS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL TAKE TIME FOR US TO RECOGNIZE AND SEE HOW THAT REALLY HAS AN IMPACT. BUT I THINK TO THE FRANCHISE FEE PERCENT, JUST WE, WE DISCUSSED, I THINK THAT WAS LAST BUDGET CYCLES SPOTLIGHT DURING THE RETREAT, WAS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN THOSE CONTRACTS ARE UP AND COMING BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD BE DOUBLING THE FRANCHISE FEE, RIGHT? PERHAPS. RIGHT. NOT, NOT TO GET TOO OFF TOPIC, BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, WHEN DO WE COME TO AN, UH, AN AGREEMENT OF WHERE WE'RE DOING A SINGLE HAULER OR A, OR WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WHICH IS MULTI HAULER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE GOING FROM CATS TO WASTE COMING WITH YOU, , I MEAN, TO ADDRESS THAT POINT, UM, JUNE, DUDE, SINCE THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION LAST YEAR TO LOOK AT IF THERE WERE ANY HYBRID POSSIBLE SCENARIOS OUT THERE, AND TO HIRE A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT TO ANALYZE THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ONCE THAT WENT OUT THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, PROCUREMENT PROCESS, UM, THE ONLY COMPANY, UH, FIRM THAT SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL WAS THE EXISTING ONE. AND THERE WAS A SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO NOT WANT TO USE THE EXISTING ONE. SO WE DIDN'T ACCEPT THAT PROPOSAL AND THE MANAGER DID NOT SIGN OFF ON IT. SO WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW? SO THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE RECORD TODAY ARE THE VOTE THAT THE COMMISSION TOOK BACK IN MARCH OF 2024, WHICH WAS TO GO SEVEN ZERO TO A SINGLE HAULER. BUT WE, AFTER THAT, THERE HAS NOT BEEN REALLY ANY MOVEMENT. AND, AND, AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. ARE WE GONNA, AND ARE WE GONNA A SINGLE, ARE WE GONNA GO WITH AN NON YEAH. AND, AND THAT THAT DECISION COULD POTENTIALLY DOUBLE OUR FRANCHISE FEES AND BRING THE DEFICIT, BRING THE BUDGET OF SANITATION BACK INTO THE BLACK? IT CAN, I I, TO WHAT EXTENT, I COULDN'T STAND HERE AND TELL YOU TODAY, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE SANITATION. AND WHEN WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT HERE, WE'RE TALKING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OVERALL, RECURRING OVERALL THOUGH, WHILE IT'S DECLINING, WE STILL HAVE A SURPLUS IN THE SANITATION FUND. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. WE'RE, WE'RE UTILIZING THE RESERVES. SO IF THIS IS A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE TAKING THIS FROM THE SANITATION. SO I THINK IF, IF, AGAIN, TO, TO HELP LAND, THIS IS THE QUESTION IS I THINK THAT THERE'S INTEREST IN, IN ACCEPTING THIS IS WILL THE RECOMMENDATION, WILL THIS BE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THE TNVR PROGRAM TRAILER TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT UM, NO, I WOULD, MY MOTION IS TO REFER THIS TO THE JUNE COMMISSION WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND FUND IT, UM, IMMEDIATELY WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT. AND, AND, AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF, LET'S GO FOR 2 25 AND SO THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT WOULD, IT, IT WOULD, UM, COME FROM THE SANITATION FUND, UH, RESERVES THE SANITATION. OKAY. SO PRETTY, I DEFINE DOING IT FROM THE SANITATION, RIGHT? NOT THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A DECLINING SURPLUS, WE STILL HAVE AN AMPLE SURPLUS IN THE SANITATION FUND. I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED IF THIS WAS ONGOING EXPENSES. BUT GIVEN THESE ARE ONE TIME EXPENSES, I THINK WE'RE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY WEATHER THAT FROM THE SANITATION FUND. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE, WHEN THE ITEM COMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED, WHICH FUNDING SOURCE IS COMING FROM. 'CAUSE FOR US AS A, AS, AS A COMMISSIONER, OKAY, WE PUT THIS, BUT THE ITEMS SUPPOSED THERE EVERY ITEM BY ORDINANCE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENTS. AND WHAT I'VE BEEN USED, I REMEMBER AT THE COUNTY, YOU HAD AN ITEM LIKE THIS WOULD COME FORWARD, IT WOULD HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT SAYING, THIS IS THE COST OF THIS. OKAY, IT'S COMING FROM THIS FUND. THIS IS THE CURRENT BALANCE ON THIS FUND. THIS IS HOW MUCH THIS IS GONNA COST, AND THIS IS GONNA BE THE REMAINING BALANCE ON THAT FUND SO THAT WE CAN BUDGET OURSELVES APPROPRIATELY. BECAUSE IF THESE THINGS JUST GET, YOU KNOW, PUT ON THE AGENDA AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S BEING PAID FROM AND THE BALANCE ON THOSE, ON THOSE FUNDS, THEN PEOPLE JUST KEEP ON PUTTING AND PUTTING AND PUTTING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S LEFT. AND SO, LIKE I REALLY, WE REALLY DO NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE MORE INFORMATIVE [02:00:01] OF THE IMPACT THAT THESE ITEMS ARE HAVING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE BEING PAID FROM AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL BALANCES SO THAT, SO THAT WE KNOW THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS. SO, SO THE, THE MOTION WOULD BE COMMISSIONER ROSE GONZALEZ TO BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE JUNE MEETING AND IT'S GONNA COME FROM THE SANITATION FUND? YES. OKAY. AND THE AMOUNT OF, WE'RE GONNA DO 2 25 IF I CAN BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT ACTUALLY ALWAYS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IT GOES BACK TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO EXPEND UP TO $225,000 FOR THE TVR AND TRAILER. THE COMMISSION WOULD, THEN THE WHOLE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO APPROVE, APPROVE THAT. THEN WE COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUDGET AMENDMENT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE NEED THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS NEW EXPENDITURE. AND WE WOULD ALWAYS MAKE SURE ON THE ITEMS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DOES THAT SAYS TO EXPEND DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD, WOULD SHOW THAT FUNDING SOURCE. WELL, I'M GONNA PUT IT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT PUT WELL, I'M GONNA PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBERED AT THE LAST MEETING IN THE MORNING, CAN WE HAD AN CAN'T CAN YOU CAN'T, IF I MAY. YES WE CAN BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER JASON, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SEALING, UH, THE PIERA PORTA AND, AND ACID WASHING. AND WE MADE THAT MOTION IN THE MORNING AND THEN WE FUNDED IT IN THE AFTERNOON. SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. I BELIEVE WE DID IT LAST TIME. DON'T YOU REMEMBER? WELL WAIT, I, I THINK WE JUST AGREED THAT WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING ON CONSENT. UH, RIGHT. BUT WELL, I MEAN IF WE, I'M, I'M IF IT'S A CRITICAL NEED. THE, THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST GET, I JUST, WE HAVE THIS NEED RIGHT NOW. IT'S GETTING REALLY HOT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET FACILITIES COMMISSIONER, I, I THINK YOU AGREE. I THINK YOU AT LEAST HAVE FOUR PEOPLE UP HERE. OKAY. WHO ARE GONNA BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. UH, I, BUT I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN PUT IT ON CONSENT ANYMORE. RIGHT. IT HAS TO BE AN R SEVEN ITEM AND THEN IT HAS TO BE CALLED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE VOTE ON IT. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE COULD CALL IT IN THE MORNING AS A TIME CERTAIN. WE ALSO, IF I MAY, IF I, IF I RECALL THE PIETRO ZA WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A REFERRAL, BUT THEN BECAUSE THERE WAS A BUDGET DISCUSSION ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT, YOU MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE IT. I'M GONNA LET COMMISSIONER, AND THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION AS A RESULT. I THINK THE ONE THING WE CAN DO TO I'LL CO-SPONSOR. YEAH, EXACTLY. WELL, LET'S ALL FOUR CO-SPONSOR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ IS, THAT YOU'LL HAVE FOUR VOTES. YOU CO-SPONSOR THE KITTY TRAILER. YES. SO THERE YOU GO. SO YOU HAVE FOUR CO-SPONSORS AND JUST COULD WE MAKE IT HAPPEN? THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN EVERY SINGLE MEETING. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER SEEN A MEETING WITHOUT ONE, SO I WOULD LIKE IT ADDED TO THE BUDGET. I THINKING I'LL, I'LL ASK FREAKED OUT ME OUT HERE. IF I GOT THIS OFF AS, SINCE THIS WENT THROUGH FINANCE, THIS CAN GO AS A CONSENT RESOLUTION. THE DEPARTMENT WOULD PREPARE THIS YES. AND WOULD SEND IT BACK. UH, THE RESOLUTION IF IT ISN'T PULLED, ASSUMING IT ISN'T, WOULD PUT PASS. AND THEN, UH, ASSUMING WE HAVE AN OPERATING BUDGET AMENDMENT, THEN ON THE FLOOR, YOU WOULD REQUEST THEN THE, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THERE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. YES. YEAH. WE, WE, WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE NUMBER IS TWO 50 NOT TO EXCEED TWO 50, NOT TO EXCEED TWO. CAN I JUST ASK SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? OKAY. AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME, BUT JUST LOOKING, PULL UP AMAZON AND YOU CAN ORDER THESE PREFAB HOMES. I WOULD LIVE IN THESE 370 DAYS A YEAR. THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL. LITERALLY BEAUTIFUL. YOU CAN MOVE IN FOR $25,000. HOW WE'RE GONNA TRAP AND NEUTER YOU TOO. WHATEVER WORKS. LISTEN, IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE VOTES TO DO THAT, THEN THEN CALL THE VOTES. WE'LL KEEP LOOKING THAT. BUT HE, BUT HE DOESN'T. HE DOES, HE DOESN'T BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT. I MEAN, SOME OF THESE PREFAB HOMES ARE VERY COST EFFECTIVE. $40,000. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY THAT. I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND THE NUMBERS AS IT RELATES TO THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING THAT IS THERE FOR LONGER THAN A SE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS IS CONSIDERED LIKE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE. SO THERE'S CERTAIN PERMITTING AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO OBTAIN FOR THAT. UM, SO WE, WHO DO WE PAY FOR THE PERMITS AS WELL? US? YEAH. WE HAVE TO GET FOUNDATION. IT'S INSANE. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR PERMIT. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IT'S INSANE. IT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT I CAN, UH, COME UP WITH A, FOR $30,000, HAVE THIS PREFABRICATED HOME THAT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE TAJ MAHAL, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY OURSELVES TO PERMIT SOMETHING, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THERE. LIKE THIS IS INSANITY. I THINK THAT EMPLOYEE COST, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, WE SHOULD BE WAIVING ALL PERMIT FEES FOR OURSELVES. WELL, IT'S JUST THE, THE COST , IT'S THE COST OF THE, UH, IT'S THE COST OF THE MANPOWER TO TO, TO WORK ON THE PERMIT. SO I THINK, COMMISSIONER, DID WE MAKE A MOTION IF I, I'LL MOVE IT. I THINK, UH, WE'RE GONNA SHOW A COUPLE THINGS IS I THINK WE'RE SHOWING THAT, UM, EVERYONE HERE IS GONNA BECOME A CO-SPONSOR MM-HMM . WITH COMMISSIONER RIZ GONZALEZ'S PRIME, AND THE MOTION WE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO EXPEND UP [02:05:01] TO $250,000, UH, FOR THE TVRM PROGRAM FUNDED THROUGH THE SANITATION FUND. YEAH. AND TWO THINGS I THINK WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, COULD WE ADD TO THIS? AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SPECIFIC ITEM. THIS HAS BEEN A RECURRING THEME. SO DON'T THINK THAT THIS, CAN YOU SEND ME A LINE BY LITEM, LINE BY LINE COST ANALYSIS OF WHAT THIS IS, RIGHT? LIKE, I, I REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS OVER $50,000. WELL, I WOULD TELL YOU, YOU'RE GETTING TWO CONTAINERS, BOTH AIR CONDITIONED, ONE WITH A KITCHEN. AND I DO THINK THAT HOLLY AND LINDA REALLY SOURCE THIS. OH, THIS ISN'T ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHY IT COSTS GOVERNMENT SO MUCH TO DO ANYTHING. WE'VE HAD THIS SAME CONVERSATION ON 20 DIFFERENT ITEMS. RIGHT? I PROMISE YOU IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, YOUR ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT BE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, A SHAPE STRUCTURE THAT TRUCTURE, UH, COST $30,000 WHEN I'M LOOKING AT IT. AND THEY GO, WELL, YES, BUT FOR YOU, WE COULD GET IT FOR THE NICE PRICE OF $450,000. OH, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY I CAN GO ON AND GET A PREFABRICATED HOME THAT I, I WOULD LITERALLY HAND OVER THE KEYS TO MY APARTMENT FOR AND MOVE INTO TOMORROW FOR $40,000. BUT TWO TRAILERS FOR CATS ARE 250,000. WELL, I THINK THEY ACTUALLY SAID THAT THE TRAILERS ARE 25,000, RIGHT? EACH YEAH, THEY'RE THREE FIVE FOR THE REALLY FANCY ONE, WHICH HAS THE SINK IN THE BATHROOM, IN THE KITCHEN, THE SAME PRICE. BUT WHERE THE BIGGEST EXPENSES, YOU'VE GOTTA LAY DOWN THE FOUNDATION. YOU GOTTA MAKE A SIDEWALK A RAMP, YOU'VE GOTTA RUN ELECTRIC, YOU'VE GOTTA NOW DEAL WITH SEWAGE. WELL MAKE ELECTRICAL. YEAH. SO IF I CAN'T, COMMISSIONER CAN SEND YOU THE COST ESTIMATE BREAK. SAY CLOSE THAT. THIS IS JUST MY LEARNING CURVE. YOU KNOW, THAT BY THE WAY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THEY THINK ABOUT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COST IS BASICALLY CONFORMING TO SOME RIDICULOUS POLICY REGULATION AND PERMIT FEES, WHEN IN REALITY THE COST OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE IS ONLY LIKE A FIFTH OF THE PRICE. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIVE OUR OWN PERMIT FEE? BECAUSE WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO PAY IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, UM, BUT, BUT GODSPEED. OKAY. AND, AND I WANNA BRING UP ANOTHER, UH, THE WASTE HAULER. OKAY. IT WASN'T FOR PUNISHMENT. YEAH. WELL, LISTEN, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A A, A WORSE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IS 'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE ALL, AND WE'RE ALL GUILTY OF THIS, EVEN INCLUDING ME, KIND OF KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND ARE, ARE HESITANT TO MAKE A DECISION. SO I THINK MAYBE BY JUNE OR THE JULY MEETING, LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IF WE WANT A SINGLE HAULER OR A MULTI HAULER. AND THEN LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST GET IT OVER WITH AND, AND GET OUR SANITATION FUND BACK INTO BLACK. SO JUST MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE JUNE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN FINALLY HEAR IT. OKAY. YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. SO LET'S ASK, I MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE JUNE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. OKAY. THERE WE GO. FUN, FUN, BRAD. THE TRASH. OKAY. AND WE HAVE THE OTHER MOTION FOR THE KITTY CAMPUS. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD. EVERYONE'S LIKE MARY SCHAFER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. UH, HI AGAIN. UH, CAN WE GET AN EXTRA CONTAINER FOR JOE BECAUSE APPARENTLY HIS DIGS AT HOME ARE NOT WORKING FOR HIM. UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO LINDA AND HOLLY. THEY NEVER, THEY SHOULD THANK MORE OFTEN FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK. THANK YOU ALSO TO BRAD CAIN FOR, UH, TAKING CARE OF, OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND THIS FUNCTION FOR THE CITY. THAT'S SO IMPORTANT. I BELIEVE THAT, UH, REGARDING FINANCING THIS, HERE'S SOME IDEAS. I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY MIAMI-DADE ANIMAL SERVICES SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. WE PAY TAXES. WE PAY SO MANY TAXES TO MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, BUT WE DON'T GET THE ANIMAL SERVICES FUNDING THAT WE NEED. THEY GET ABOUT 43 MILLION IN BUDGET. WE ARE ABOUT AN EIGHTH, I BELIEVE, OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY TAXES PAID INTO THE COUNTY. THAT'S ABOUT $5 MILLION THAT THEY SHOULD BE PROVIDING IN SERVICES. THEY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. AND WE SHOULD BE SENDING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER TO LOBBY OR NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO GET WHAT, UH, OUR SHARE OF THEIR BUDGET. NEXT, ANOTHER IDEA IS TO GO OUT TO NONPROFITS AND LOOK FOR GRANTS. UH, A LOCAL PROVIDER MIGHT BE FRIENDS OF MIAMI ANIMALS, UH, NATIONAL ONES MIGHT BE RACIAL RAY AND, UH, BETH STERN, HOWARD STERN'S WIFE HAS, UH, BETH'S FURRY FRIENDS. THEY MIGHT BE, UH, INTERESTED IN SPONSORING. UH, THIS, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, RICH RAY IS PART OF THE FOOD AND WINE FESTIVAL, SO THERE'S A CONNECTION THERE. AND ALSO, HOWARD STERN IS A FLORIDA RESIDENT. HE LIVES IN PALM BEACH. SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTIONAL TO CREATIVE IDEAS FOR FUNDING. AS A NEIGHBOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THESE. AND ALSO MATURE LANDSCAPING INSTALLED. JUST, UH, I KNOW THAT THE CONTAINER HOMES, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEM. THEY CAN BE BEAUTIFUL, UM, BUT BOXY, UM, AND I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPING ON THEM. MAYBE A [02:10:01] GREEN ROOF WOULD BE AN IDEA, UH, TO, TO FOR THAT. UH, FINALLY, THE, THE CONTAINERS. I LIKE THAT THEY CAN BE MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION. IF THE KC MOVES. UH, KEEP IN MIND VOLUNTEERS WORK THERE, SO YOU WANNA MAKE IT NICE NOT PAYING THEM SO THEY GET PAID IN THE EXPERIENCE AND THE ENVIRONMENT. SO IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT. YOU'RE GETTING FREE LABOR, YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. UM, AND, UH, THE SOUTH OF FIFTH E-COM LOCATION, UH, OH, I THINK I RAN OUTTA TIME. THANK YOU LARRY. HEY. AND HAS A SIGN NOTE. SO CAST PAYS MORE THAN HALF THE EXPENSE TO RUN THE KITTY CAMPUS. YEAH. SO WE HAVE FUNDRAISERS AND CONTRIBUTE QUITE A BIT. ALL VOLUNTEERS. SO CHAIR, IF I CAN, THE, UH, WE HAVE THE, THE MOTION ON THIS ITEM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A, WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION? I'M MAKING THE MOTION. I'LL SECOND. WHICH ITEM? THE SINGLE, THE, THE WITNESS ITEM. THIS IS, THIS IS RELATED TO THE KEY CAMPUS. OKAY. MOTION. OKAY. SECOND. BY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SHOWING THAT PASS NOW ON THIS ITEM ABOUT WASTE HAULER, WHICH IS NOT THIS AGENDA ITEM, I DON'T THINK. YEAH, WE CAN JUST CAN'T MAKE, WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. I THINK WHOEVER, WHATEVER COMMISSIONER'S INTERESTED, WOULD JUST SPEAK WITH RICK ABOUT GETTING AN ITEM ON THE JUNE AGENDA. BRAD AND I WILL, YOU COULD JUST TELL BRAD TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. DOES IT, DOES IT, DOES IT NEED TO COME FROM A COMMISSIONER OR CAN IT COME FROM STAFF? I THINK THE ITEM IS CURRENTLY WITH STAFFS AND I THINK STAFF HAS HEARD, YOU KNOW, SOME FEELINGS HERE. SO STAFF SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, WHAT THE NEXT MOVE SHOULD BE. BRING IT FORWARD, BRAD. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT. NEXT ITEM. GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MB 20, UH, MINE MAY BE PROMENADE. THANK YOU LADIES SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. UM, AND IS THIS YOU COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ? YEAH. LET ME TEE IT UP FOR YOU. UH, M [NB 20. DISCUSS POTENTIAL SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENTS AT MIAMI BEACH PROMENADE (FORMERLY KNOWN AS MIAMI BEACH DRIVE), SITUATED BETWEEN 24TH STREET AND 29TH STREET, INCLUDING REHABILITATION OF SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPES, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER NECESSARY AESTHETICS] MB 20 DISCUSS POTENTIAL SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS. IT MIGHT MAY BEACH PROMENADE, FORMER KNOWN AS MIAMI BEACH DRIVE, SITUATED BETWEEN 24TH STREET AND 29TH STREET, INCLUDING REHABILITATION OF SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPES, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS, AND OTHER NECESSARY AESTHETICS. AND B 20. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S, UH, IT'S A LONG, A VERY HIGHLY DENSE AREA OF OUR CITY AND IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO OUR, UH, BEACH WALK. BUT WE ARE FACING ISSUES, UH, WITH, UH, WITH FLOODING. THERE. WE'RE FACING ISSUES WITH, UM, WITH THE SIDEWALK THERE AND JUST LANDSCAPE AND SANITATION ISSUES. SO I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO BRAD TO TELL US WHAT SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN THE WORKS. I'LL, I'LL TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVES FIRST. , UM, AND FROM A LANDSCAPE PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BEEN DOING MORE ROUTINE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE THERE, INCLUDING MOWING, TRIMMING, SHRUBBERY EDGING, IRRIGATION, UM, AND THE ADDITIONAL, UH, GREEN CEMENT MANAGEMENT STAFF HAS PROVIDED PALM TREE PRUNING AS WELL. SO FROM A LANDSCAPE PERSPECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN IMPROVING AND, AND I'VE HEARD ONLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THAT. UM, THE MORE CHALLENGING ISSUES IS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN WE, WE, WE DID A, UM, TEST PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE PAVEMENT THERE BETWEEN 24TH AND 25TH STREET THAT WAS GRINDED AND SEALED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THE RESULTS OF THAT JUST DIDN'T YIELD. UM, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD TEMPORARY FIX. UM, IT'S JUST THE PAVEMENT THERE IS IS REALLY, REALLY ROUGH. IT'S JUST NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. IT THESE SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES. HOW LONG? IT'S, IT'S A LONG TIME. I, I CAN GET YOU THE SPECIFICS, BUT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA. THERE HAS, AND, AND, AND I THINK AS PART OF, UH, WHAT CI P'S DOING, UM, THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO ADDRESS, UH, THE PAVEMENT THERE. 'CAUSE IT PROBABLY ALL NEEDS TO REALLY BE REPLACED AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM. UM, AGAIN, WE, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS METHOD THAT WE ENGAGED IN. SO WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE THERE TO, TO IMPROVE THE SIDEWALK CONDITIONS ALONG MAMIE BEACH PROMENADE? WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS THE YEAR BEFORE WHEN, UH, JOE GOMEZ WAS STILL HERE WITH A, UH, A DIFFERENT CONTRACT. AND WE'RE PERHAPS GONNA, WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT REACHING BACK OUT TO THEM AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THEY COULD DO, UH, ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, TEST SAMPLE, UH, WITH THEIR APPLICATION AND IF THAT WOULD YIELD MAYBE PERHAPS DIFFERENT RESULTS. OKAY. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE, WE COULD GO FOR WITH TEMP, YOU KNOW, ON AN INTERIM BASIS. OKAY. HOW ABOUT ON THE, ON THE ISSUE OF, OF THE, OF THE FLOODING ESPECIALLY WE'RE HEADING INTO, UM, INTO RAINY SEASON AND I KNOW THE LADIES AT MBNA AND OSCAR AND, AND THE ENTIRE GROUP GETS VERY CONCERNED. UH, AND JUST FOR THOSE OF US, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE PUBLIC, THIS IS THE AREA, THIS PROMENADE THAT IS JUST WEST OF THE BEACH WALK BETWEEN THE ONE HOTEL AND THE ADDITION. SO ADJACENT TO THE RIVIERA, THE MARISOL, UM, CLUB ATLANTIS, TRIDENT TOWERS, THAT AREA [02:15:01] THERE. RIGHT. UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ISSUES THERE OF UNEVEN PAVERS. UM, AND THERE'S ISSUES OF FLOODING. THE UNEVEN PAVERS HAVE CAUSED ISSUES OF TRIP AND FALLS IN THE PAST AND, AND THE, THE FLOODING HAS BEEN A RECURRING THING. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS THAT? WELL, THE, UH, THE STAFF ARE, OUR STREET STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON OUR, UH, THE, UH, ONSET OF THE RESETTING, THE EXISTING PAVERS. UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT AND THEY'VE BEEN PRIORITIZING THAT. UM, I HAVE TO GET, WE WILL GET AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS. BUT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AND, AND THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOME SUCCESS, UH, WITH THAT. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S A POSITIVE. THE, THE HARDEST PART OF IT ALL IS REALLY THE DRAINAGE ISSUE BECAUSE THERE REALLY ARE NO CONNECTION POINTS AT ALL THERE. UM, SO THAT MAKES IT MUCH MORE CHALLENGING THAN WORKING IN OTHER AREAS. THE, ARE THESE PAPERS PERMEABLE? I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT? YES. 'CAUSE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE RESETTING THE PAVERS AND IF WE ARE FACING A FLOODING ISSUE THERE, MAYBE WE JUST SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT RESETTING, THAT MEANS WE'RE REMOVING, WE'RE FILLING IT WITH SANDS OR SOMETHING AND, AND PUTTING THEM BACK IN SO THAT THE SURFACE IS LEVEL. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT RESETTING THE PAVERS WOULD MEAN. CORRECT. CORRECT. IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND WE'RE USING A PRODUCT THAT'S NOT PERMEABLE, THAT MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE FLOODING MIGHT BE BETTER. YOU KNOW, DO WE DO A VENETIAN DRAIN? DO WE DO SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED, THE GRASS BRICK, UM, UH, OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAKES IT MORE EASY FOR THE WATER TO BE ABSORBED. ONE, ONE OTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST RECENTLY DISCUSSED WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM IS POSSIBLY LOOKING AT MAYBE FRENCH DRAINS, RIGHT? AGAIN, IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT MAY BE ABLE TO YIELD SOME BENEFIT BECAUSE AGAIN, NOT HAVING ANY CONNECTION POINTS IN THAT LOCATION, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LOT MORE CHALLENGING. OR, OR, OR, OR EVEN MAYBE IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS WE JUST REPLACE, UM, THE BRICKS WITH GREEN SPACE. YOU KNOW, YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, GRASS, UH, BACK, BACK IN THERE BECAUSE THAT WAY IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD USE MORE THAN JUST A HARD SURFACE. ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN LOOK THAT AS WELL. SO LET'S, LET'S, UH, LET'S GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD MEET, UH, WITH THE WORKING GROUP FROM MBNA THAT IS DEALING WITH THIS, THEN WE SHOULD TRY TO GO ON SITE WITH THEM. ABSOLUTELY. AND PERHAPS WE CAN KEEP THIS OPEN MR. CHAIR AND BRING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER UPDATE. UH, LET'S NOT SAY NEXT MONTH BY THE FOLLOWING MONTH. SO WE HAVE SOME TIME SEPTEMBER. YEP. BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE, I DON'T, WE MEAN WE DON'T MEAN IN AUGUST, CORRECT. RIGHT. SO SEPTEMBER. OKAY. SO THAT SHOULD GIVE US SUFFICIENT TIME. PLENTY OF TIME TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES. OKAY. SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM, UH, HEARD AND THE RETURN IN SEPTEMBER. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. THANK YOU, BRAD. WHY DON'T YOU STAY ON THE SPOTLIGHT [NB 6. DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL REPEAL OF THE CITY’S RED-LIGHT CAMERA ORDINANCE.] AND UH, HERE MB SIX. I KNOW THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO HEAR. CALL THAT IN MB SIX. UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY, I'M WITHDRAWING THAT ITEM. YEAH, FOLLOW, I KNOW, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM IS, UH, FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS. FOR AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO DO AWAY WITH 'EM. WELL ACTUALLY THERE, THERE IS ONE THING I I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AND PERHAPS IT'S THROUGH THE ATTORNEY. UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH A RED LIGHT CAMERA VENDOR. YES, THERE IS. OKAY. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? DO WE LIKE, DOES IT EXPIRE AT A CERTAIN POINT? UM, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST CAME UP TO THE PODIUM. OKAY. GOOD MORNING SIR. GOOD MORNING. SERGEANT PRICE FROM THE ACCIDENT UNIT. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT THAT STARTED IN 2022, UH, WITH THE NEW VENDOR, WELL IT'S OUR OLD VENDOR, BUT THEY WON THE CONTRACT AGAIN. UH, I BELIEVE THEIR NAME NOW IS ELEVATE. SO THE WAY IT READS AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IS THAT UM, IT GOES INTO EFFECT AFTER THE 10TH LOCATION IS BUILT OUT. THE 10TH LOCATION. HOW MANY LOCATIONS ARE CURRENTLY BUILT OUT? TWO. TWO? YEAH. AND WE WENT INTO CONTRACT WITH THIS VENDOR WHEN? 2022. 2022. AND SO THEN THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE US, THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO CAMERAS. THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE REVENUES. IS THAT CORRECT? AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, YES. RIGHT. BUT THEN THEIR CONTRACT TERM DOESN'T START UNTIL THEY'VE DONE THE 10TH INSTALLATION. SO FOR AS LONG AS THEY DON'T DO THAT 10TH INSTALLATION, CAN THEY DRAG THIS OUT FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIKE? I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT I HAVE BECAUSE AT ONE POINT I WAS LOOKING TO REPEAL [02:20:01] THE PROGRAM AND NOT A FAN OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. YOUR OFFICE, UH, DID SOME RESEARCH ABOUT THIS AND YOU GUYS EDUCATED ME AS TO THE CONTRACT THAT'S THAT'S INVOLVED. BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A WAY THAT A VENDOR MIGHT BE GAMING US? WHERE, WHERE THEY JUST KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON DOWN, THEY KICKED THE CAN PAST THE RED LIGHT CAMERA AND DOWN THE ROAD, UH, TO EXTEND THE, THE CONTRACT PERIOD? SURE. UM, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATING THAT CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS AT MY OFFICE. UM, I WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE INCLUDED A DROP THAT DATE BY WHEN THE TERM WOULD BEGIN. THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT. I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS THE VENDOR ACTING IN GOOD FAITH? YES. IS THE VENDOR DOING EVERYTHING THAT THE VENDOR NEEDS TO BE DOING IN ORDER TO SECURE THE PERMITS OR WHATEVER REGULATORY APPROVALS IT MAY NEED FROM THE COUNTY OR WHOEVER ELSE IS INVOLVED? BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR OFFICE IS MONITORING. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING AGAIN THAT I WOULD, UH, DEFER TO, UH, POLICE TO ADVISE AS TO WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT THE VENDOR IS, IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET THE INSTALLATIONS IN. AND IF NOT, WELL, BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES. THIS, SO THIS WAS A RENEWAL IN 2022. WHEN WAS THE INITIAL CONTRACT? I WANT TO SAY 2010 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK, BUT I WANNA SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND 2010. OKAY. SO THE INITIAL CONTRACT IN 2010 AT 15 YEARS LATER, WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE 10TH LOCATION. SO I THINK I MR. ATTORNEY, IF YOUR OFFICE JUST COULD LOOK INTO IT, IS I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PROGRAM IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. I GET THAT WE WANT THE CAMERAS BECAUSE THE CAMERAS HELP US IDENTIFY, UH, CARS THAT WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE ARREST WARRANTS OR CARS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAY BE STOLEN AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO IT DOES SERVE A VERY GOOD PUBLIC PURPOSE. I GET THAT FOR AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE MY LITTLE OLD PEOPLE GETTING THE RED LIGHT CAMERA TICKETS AND FOR AS MUCH AS I HATE THE ACCIDENTS THAT THEY DO INADVERTENTLY CAUSE I GET THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS VENDOR IS NOT GAMING THIS 10TH CAMERA INSTALLATION TO THEIR BENEFIT. OKAY. WELL I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING MORE THAT THE VENDOR SHOULD BE DOING, UH, WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY KIND OF NOTICE SENT PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE THAT A FIRE IS LIT UNDER THEIR REAR . SO WE CAN SHARE, I LIKE LIGHTING FIRES ON THE PEOPLE'S REARS, SO WE'LL JUST SHOW THE ITEM, UH, DISCUSSED AND CLOSED AND I THINK YOU GOT SOME DIRECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU ALL. UH, WE HAVE, UH, MEMBERS FROM THE LINCOLN ROAD BID HERE. THANK YOU. UM, UH, LET'S HEAR [NB 33. DISCUSS THE PLACEMENT OF ADDITIONAL OR IMPROVED WAYFINDING THAT WOULD DIRECT GUESTS/ CUSTOMERS/ RESIDENTS FROM THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER TO THE LINCOLN ROAD MALL.] NB 33. HOPEFULLY THIS IS VERY QUICK. UH, CITY STAFF COULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. UM, AND LINCOLN ROAD BID WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN, UH, HOW THIS, UH, PLAYS OUT. MB 33 DISCUSS THE PLACEMENT OF ADDITIONAL OR IMPROVED WAY FINDINGS THAT WOULD DIRECT GUESTS, CUSTOMERS, RESIDENTS FROM THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER TO LINCOLN ROAD MALL MB 33. YEAH. AND WHERE THIS COMES FROM, I, I SPEND A LOT OF TIME JUST WALKING AROUND OUR CAMPUS HERE AND EXPLORING. I THINK THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT FROM AN URBAN PLANNING STANDPOINT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT GO INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND YOU GET OUT AND YOU JUST AT TIMES FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. AND YOU CERTAINLY DON'T APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE, UH, TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM LINCOLN ROAD. UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE DRAWING, UH, ATTENTION TO THAT. UH, I DON'T WANT, I THINK WE HAVE SO MUCH SIGN POLLUTION IN THE CITY, IT'S NAUSEATING, BUT I WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S ARTISTIC AND FUN THAT IS INVITING, NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A NO PARKING SIGN. HI, UM, CLAUDIA JAGGED WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. WE JUST WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM F EIGHT, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE GARAGE PAGE, THE 17TH STREET GARAGE. 17TH GARAGE, SAME THING. YOU WALK OUT, SAME THING, YOU GO DOWN, UH, IS THAT CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE RIGHT THERE. AND YOU JUST SEE THIS BRUTALIST, UH, SORRY, UM, IF I GET THAT ARCHITECTURE WRONG, BUT BRUTALIST GARAGE, THAT LOOKS AWFUL AND UNINVITING DISGUSTING. AND THAT IS OUR GATEWAY INTO LINCOLN ROAD. THAT, THAT IS ACROSS FROM MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL. YEAH, RIGHT. WE SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THAT. IT, IT LOOKS AWFUL. IT SHOULD BE ARTISTIC, IT SHOULD BE INVITING, IT SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF GREAT MURAL ON IT. WHATEVER IT MAY BE. IT SHOULD BE COOL AND SIGNAL TO THE THOUSANDS OF CONVENTIONEERS THAT ARE COMING OUT FROM CHICAGO OR DETROIT WHERE IT'S FOUR DEGREES OUTSIDE AND THEY LANDED IN MIAMI BEACH AND IT'S [02:25:01] FEBRUARY AND WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. IT SAYS THIS IS MIAMI BEACH, NOT HERE'S A MACY'S THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM 1970 AND A PARKING GARAGE. UH, SO GO GET IN YOUR CAR AND HAVE FUN. I LOVE THIS ITEM BY THE WAY, WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING BECAUSE WHEN YOU DRIVE SOUTH ON CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE, WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT BLANK CANVAS OF THE 17TH STREET GARAGE. AND FOR WE KNOW THAT THAT, UH, BUILDING DOES HAVE STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND IT IS REACHING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN AND SOMEDAY HAS, BUT FOR AS LONG AS IT'S THERE. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING MY RFP UP ON THE ROOF THERE FOR AS LONG AS IT'S THERE. THAT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL CANVAS WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING ARTISTIC, REALLY WELCOMING PEOPLE. UM, NOT ONLY WELCOMING PEOPLE TO MIAMI BEACH AND THE CONVENTION CENTER WELCOMING PEOPLE TO LINCOLN ROAD. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE SO RIGHT. YOU ARE IN THE HEART OF OUR CITY AND OUR CITY CENTER. YOU COME AND YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU'RE JUST A FEW FEET AWAY FROM, FROM LINCOLN ROAD. I TOTALLY SUPPORT YOUR IDEA. THAT'S IT. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION. BRAD, CAN THE BID GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT DOING THESE SIGNS OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION ON THIS? YOU'RE IN OUR RECOMMENDATION. WE SAID WE, WE WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT. AND, AND THIS CAN BE HANDLED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THROUGH THE WAYFINDING SIGN PROGRAM. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD. WE CAN, WE CAN GET IT DONE. OKAY. SO THERE'S, IF I MAY, BECAUSE OF THE, THE DIRECTION GARAGE IS FUTURE, I THINK THAT THAT'S A FUTURE ITEM THAT ISN'T ON THIS AGENDA. UH, BUT THIS ITEM ON THE WAY FINDING, I THINK THAT IT, ANY, ANY RECOMMENDATION HAS TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION. BUT I THINK IT'S JUST A SIMPLE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID ON WAY FINDING SIGNAGE FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER OF LINCOLN ROAD. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE MOTION. AND WHAT IS CLASSIFIED AS WAYFINDING SIGNAGE? IS THAT, AM I GETTING OVERLY EXCITED HERE? IS THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE A, UH, TRAFFIC SIGN OR IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE, UM, ALMOST LIKE WHAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL WHERE IT GOES, YOU SEE, I THINK YOU NEED TO LIZ BON OVER HERE, MADRID OVER HERE. COULD IT BE SOMETHING COOL AND ARTISTIC? WE PUT A PICTURE IN HERE SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS. THAT LOOKS AWFUL. LET ME SEE. I THINK SOMETHING COOL WHERE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE, LOOK, WE NEED SIGN HELP EVERYWHERE. I KNOW THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ HAD ANOTHER ITEM FOR SIGNS ON LINCOLN ROAD AND WE SHOULD POSSIBLY ENGAGE SOMEONE TO COME UP WITH A GREAT DESIGN FOR LINCOLN ROAD FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, UM, COMPLEX AREA AND THEN JUST REPLACE ALL THOSE SIGNS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE TO THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM. WORK WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. BUT IT'S, I I KNOW, I KNOW COMMISSIONER SUAREZ'S ITEM IS DIFFERENT, BUT SIDE STREET ALL SIGNS TO GET A DESIGN, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO GET A, A BETTER DESIGN AND THE PLACE MAYBE IT, SO ANNA HAS A LOT OF IDEAS FUNDING, RIGHT? IT IS, IT'S NOT JUST, UH, I MEAN WE HAVE, UH, PARKING DON'T PARK HERE PARKING BRAD, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. YEAH. IT IT'S NOT YOU BRAD. IT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COOL AND ARTISTIC THAT ALSO SERVES AS A VERY GOOD DIRECTION THAT LINCOLN ROAD IS RIGHT AHEAD. YEAH, IT, YEAH. UM, SO, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, THE GARAGE IS FUTURE, BUT MAYBE WE DO THE GARAGE FIRST SINCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF BACKWARDS BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS THERE NOW AND MAYBE THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF BRANDED TOGETHER, THAT WAYFINDING AND YEAH. GARAGE. IT'S UM, HOW ABOUT THE SIGN IS DOWNSTAIRS RIGHT OUT FRONT OF CITY HALL, UH, FRONTING CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE WHERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE SISTER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE THE ONES THAT ARE POINTING IN DIRECTIONS. IT SAYS THIS CITY HERE, I FORGET THE SPECIFIC CITIES THAT ARE THERE, BUT IT SERVES AS WAY FINDING, BUT IT JUST HAS NO COOL ARTISTIC TOUCH. SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. IF I MAY, IF YOU'RE, IF THE REQUEST IS TO WORK WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID, I THINK THAT WHATEVER THE TEAMS WOULD COME UP WITH, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. YEAH. GREAT. SO IF, IF THAT'S THE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT THEM AND TO WORK WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID TO COME UP WITH A, A GOOD WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROGRAM BETWEEN THE TWO. YEAH, MY OPTIONS IN THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. I THINK I, I THINK WITH THOSE, I'VE SEEN THEM IN DIFFERENT CITIES. I KNOW IN DOWNTOWN MOUNT DORA, THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR, IN THEIR HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, FIND ONE LOCATION LIKE YEAH, LIKE ONE PIVOTAL LOCATION, WHETHER IT BE PENNSYLVANIA OR MERIDIAN, UH, OR YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO PIVOTAL LOCATIONS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THEM ALL ALONG THE CORRIDOR. 'CAUSE THEY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING, BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE TWO KEY LOCATIONS THAT POINTS YOU IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, I THINK ON THE CIP PLAN THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ON DREXEL AND MERIDIAN ALREADY THAT WAS DESIGNED ON A SIDE STREET, BUT I'M, I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T KNOW IF IF UPSTAIRS IN, IN THE BOOTH, IF THEY HAVE THE PICTURE I JUST SENT THEM, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF PJ'S THERE, BUT [02:30:01] I TEXTED HIM A PICTURE, UM, ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT IT OR NOT. SO MAYBE THEY DIDN'T. PJ WOW. DID WE JUST REALIZE THAT PJ JUST HAS THIS ON, UH, CRUISE CONTROL AND UH, AUTOPILOT AUTONOMOUS AUTONOMOUS CAMERAS. TALK ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S HELPING EFFICIENCY . I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S INDEPENDENT, BUT I DUNNO IF YOU WANT TO, TO, UH, MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THE VOTE WHY HE IS TRYING TO FIND IT OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? UM, LET'S JUST KEEP IT HERE, RIGHT? UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR IT AGAIN IN, LET'S CALL IT, UH, WELL I, I, I THINK THE, THE, THE TAKE TAKE ACTION. I THINK YOU WERE LOOKING AT SENDING THIS BACK TO COMMISSION TO DIRECT THE WORK TO HAPPEN, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT THE WORK TO HAPPEN AND WAIT, THEN IT WOULD STAY HERE. WELL DO WANT THE WORK TO HAPPEN, BUT THE WORK CAN JUST BE US TALKING WITH LINCOLN ROAD BID IN MY OFFICE AND ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO GIVE INPUT ABOUT WHAT THAT SIGN SHOULD LOOK LIKE. RIGHT. WE, I I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, UH, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE BURNING MAN STATUE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BETTER THAN JUST THE WAY FINDING STATUTE THAT LOOKS LIKE 10 MILLION OTHER SIGNS IN OUR CITY. OKAY. SO, SO IT WILL JUST SHOW THE ITEM D DISCUSSED AND STAFFED A RETURN WITH, I GUESS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR PICTURES DIFFERENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DIFFERENT IN SEPTEMBER. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'LL SHOW, WE'LL SHOW IT, UH, WE'LL JUST SHOW IT RETURN, WE'LL SHOW THE, THE ITEM HEARD. UH, AND RETURNING BY THE WAY, WHATEVER SIGNAGE YOU GUYS PICK AND DESIGN CAN ALSO ROLL OVER TO CHRISTOPHER SUAREZ'S ITEM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE A, THE SIGNAGE MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, IT'S TRANSFORMATIVE. IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE. YOU, YOU SHOULD WALK OUT OF THAT CONVENTION CENTER AND FEEL LIKE YOU WERE SOMEWHERE COOL. RIGHT. AND RIGHT NOW I, I DON'T GET THAT FEELING WHEN YOU WALK OUT THERE LIKE YOU SHOULD FEEL, WOW, I AM IN MIAMI BEACH AND I DON'T GET THAT FEEL. I, IT FEELS LIKE YOU JUST LANDED IN ANYWHERE USA AND WHAT ABOUT LIKE SOUTH BEACH? THAT SIGNS ARE OLD AND WORN AND TATTERED TOO. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DESIGN. MID BEACH SHOULD HAVE ITS DESIGN. THE NORTH BEACH AT ONE POINT HAD ITS DESIGN, BUT THOSE SIGNS ARE JUST FALLING APART TOO. UM, THEY'RE WEATHERED, THEY'RE BATTERED. AND UM, I KNOW WE HAVE MONEY FOR SIGNS. I THINK DON'T, DON'T WE HAVE MONEY IN THE GEO BOND FOR SIGNS. JASON WAS THERE SIGN MONEY THERE? I DON'T RECALL THERE SPECIFIC BEING A, A BUCKET SPECIFICALLY FOR SIGNAGE. IT WAS SIDEWALKS, TREES, ASPHALT, THINGS LIKE THAT. I COULD BE WRONG. I I DO KNOW THAT WE WORKED WITH COMMUNICATIONS BRAD AND WE CAME UP WITH A DESIGN AND WE DIDN'T SPEND ANY MONEY TO DO IT, UH, TO BRAND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PALM VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, SO WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM HEARD IN RETURN WITH A RECOMMENDED WAY FINDING SIGNAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. WHAT'S THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS? THE DISCUSSION IS FREE , THE DISCUSSION IS FREE FUNDING SOURCE FOR, IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF SUPPORT THIS? YEAH, WE WE'RE, YEAH. THE ADMINISTRATION. SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY, SO WHERE DOES THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMEND THAT THIS, THAT THE FUNDING COME FROM? WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING IS. OKAY. WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA AT THIS POINT. YEAH, IT COULD JUST 2000 BUCKS. WELL, I MEAN WE CITY SO IT COULD PROBABLY BE, IT COULD COME, IT COULD COME OUT OF THE WAY FINDING PROGRAM. I MEAN JUST OBVIOUSLY DEPENDS ON THE COST. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT. AND I'LL JUST CONFIRM THAT THERE IS A SIGN ON PENNSYLVANIA ON THE CIP PLAN ALREADY. LIKE A SIGN OR THERE'S LIKE A THING, A BIG THING, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE OUTSIDE THE CONVENTION CENTER. IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE GARAGE, BUT THERE IS SIGN. YEAH, I'M RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL AND THE CONVENTION CENTER. SOMEWHERE ALONG THERE DAVID. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, TO CLARIFY, THERE IS A SIGNAGE PACKAGE INCLUDED IN THE LINCOLN ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. IT IS WITHIN THAT AREA. IT DOESN'T EXTEND ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER OR EVEN DOWN THE SIDE STREETS. THERE ARE REFERENCE POINTS THAT REFERENCE BEACH AND CONVENTION CENTER AND THE MUSEUM AND THE, THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY, BUT IT, IT'S LIMITED TO WITHIN THAT AREA. THEY'RE NOT EXTENDING BEYOND THAT. WELL MAYBE WE COULD JUST DO THOSE SIGNS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN STARTING THAT MAIN PROJECT UNTIL 2027. SO AT LEAST IF IT'S CLEAN AND THERE'S BEAUTIFUL NEW SIGNS, THAT GOES A LONG WAY INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL 2029 AND SITTING THERE WITH THE SAME WEATHERED SIGNS. OKAY. THE SIGNAGE WITHIN THE LINCOLN ROAD WILL BE PART OF THE LINCOLN ROAD. YEAH, IT'S AWFUL. IT'S AWFUL. AND I MEAN, IF WE HAVE FUNDING THERE, I WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND JUST DO THE SIGNS. AND IF WE PAID JAMES CORNER TO COME UP WITH SIGNS, THEN TAKE HIS DESIGN AND JUST PUT THE SIGNS UP. YEAH, BUT WE DID THE LIGHTING. I MEAN THIS, THIS ISN'T COMPLICATED. IF, IF YOU PUT IN CHAT GPT CREATE AN ARTISTIC WAY, FINDING SIGN FOR LINCOLN ROAD, YOU GET PRETTY COOL EXAMPLES, DO THAT. OH, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. SOMETHING TROPICAL WITH FLAMINGOS. PUT THAT IN THERE TOO. YEAH, YEAH. PUT A FLAMINGO UNDER IT. BE CREATIVE. I DON'T KNOW. GO ON AND BE CREATIVE. MAKE THIS PLACE COOL. WE CAN PUT CATS. PICTURES [02:35:01] OF CATS FROM THE KITTY CAMPUS. FLAMINGOS. THEIR LOBBY TEAM IS ALREADY STRONG ENOUGH. COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? IGUANAS. OKAY. THE OFFICIAL CITY REP. I APPRECIATE IT. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK. UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, UH, MB 35 [NB 35. DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION TO EXPAND ACCESS AND DISCOUNTED RATES FOR NORTH BAY VILLAGE RESIDENTS AT NORMANDY PARK POOL AND NORTH BEACH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING.] [NB 36. DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION ON THE POSSIBLE REVISION OF NON-RESIDENT ENTRANCE FEES AND/OR THE INTRODUCTION OF RESIDENT GUEST PASSES FOR CITY POOLS.] AND MB 36. CAN WE HEAR THESE TOGETHER? LET ME CALL THEM IN. THESE ARE BOTH PARKS ITEMS. UH, THIS, UH, MB 35 DISCUSS. TAKE ACTION TO EXPAND ACCESS AND DISCOUNTED RATES FOR NORTH BAY VILLAGE RESIDENTS AT NORMANDY PARK POOL AND NORTH BEACH RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING. THAT'S MB 35, MB 36. DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION ON POSSIBLE REVISION OF NON-RESIDENT ENTRANCE FEES AND OR THE INTRODUCTION OF RESIDENT GUEST PASS FOR CITY POOLS AND B 36. THAT'S GREAT. UM, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO I'M WORKING WITH IN NORTH BAY VILLAGE ASKED ME TO DEFER TO NEXT MONTH. OH. SO, UM, AND WHAT'S UP? BOTH ITEMS OR? YEAH. YEAH. SO LET'S JUST DEFER ONE MONTH AND THEN, UM, I THINK THEY'LL EVEN BE PRESENT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. WHO IS IT? I JUST WANNA SAY, HUH? THOUGHT JASON SAID IT WASN'T A FE MEETING. YEAH. LET ME, LET ME CONNECT WITH THEM. THEY, THEY TEXTED ME, UH, TODAY TO, TO, SO I JUST WANNA SAY I LOVE THIS ITEM. YEAH, NO, IT'S A GOOD ITEM. AND I THINK, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AT NEW CAPITAL, WE SHOULD ALSO BE LOOKING, OKAY, WHAT DOES, WHAT DO OUR NEIGHBORING MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE IN TERMS OF PARKS? DO THEY HAVE A PARK THAT WE, THAT WE DON'T NEED TO RECREATE HERE? UM, LIKE THE OLYMPIC SIZED POOLS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE OLYMPIC SIZED POOLS LIKE DORAL, DORAL JUST CREATED AN OLYMPIC SIZED POOL. LIKE SEEING WHAT DO THE OTHER CITIES, IN THIS CASE, ON THE BARRIER ISLAND ALREADY OFFER SO THAT WE DON'T REPLICATE SERVICES? AND WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AS WELL? BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY LINES. WE'RE ALL ONE COMMUNITY. WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORS. AND I LOVE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS POINT. YEAH, IT'S SO GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. UM, ONE OF THE THING, ONE OF THE REQUESTS WAS THAT THEY MAKE IT FREE. UM, AND IN RETURN, UM, OUR, OUR KIDS CAN GO TO THEIR SUMMER CAMP FOR FREE. UM, I THINK SPECIFICALLY WHAT? FREE NEIGHBOR FREE. YEAH. I LOVE THAT. THIS IS FOR NORTH BAY VILLAGE. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ITEM FOR FREE THE POOL ACCESS. YEAH. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO DISCOUNTED RATES FOR THEIR NEW SPORTS COMPLEX, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING A HUGE SPORTS COMPLEX. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE WANNA HAVE A COLLABORATION, BUT WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. SO I WORK BRANDON, MANY CAN GO TO THE SUMMER CAMP. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO, UH, IRON OUT BETWEEN. GREAT. YOU, WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE. SO I'LL WORK WITH BRANDON ON THIS. IS IT BRANDON? SHOULD I WORK WITH BRANDON ON THIS, PLEASE? YES. THE INFORMATION. SURE. YEP. SO, AGAIN, DEFERRED. IT SOUNDS LIKE JULY 11TH NEXT WEEK IS GONNA BE TOO SOON, SO, WE'LL, NO, I THINK IT, IT COULD BE, BUT OKAY. WE, WE'LL JUST COPY THE ITEMS OVER, SO, AND IF ANYTHING, WE'LL JUST DEFER IT AGAIN. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL SHOW, WE'LL JUST SHOW THE ITEM DEFERRED FOR NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN, WHY DON'T YOU STAY UP HERE AND, UH, WE'LL HEAR MB 22. MB [NB 22. DISCUSS REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A MUSCLE BEACH IN NORTH BEACH, CONSIDERING THE WIDELY RECOGNIZED POSITIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH, COMMUNITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE OBSERVED AT MUSCLE BEACH IN SOUTH BEACH] 22. OKAY. M MB 22 DISCUSS REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A MUSEL BEACH IN NORTH BEACH. CONSIDERING THE WIDELY RECOGNIZED POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE HEALTH COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OBSERVED AT MUSSEL BEACH IN THE SOUTH BEACH, NB 22, WHEN I GO TO, UH, OCEAN DRIVE, I LOOK ABOUT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOES NOT WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST WORKS IS, UM, MUSCLE BEACH. THAT AREA IS INCREDIBLE. YEP. THE ACTIVATION, UH, WHETHER YOU'RE A BRO LIKE MY FRIEND DAVID , UH, WHETHER YOU ARE JUST MORE RECREATIONAL OR WHETHER YOU'RE JUST ROLLERBLADING BY AND, UH, OBSERVING WHAT'S GOING ON, IT IS SUCH A POSITIVE ACTIVATION FOR, UM, FOR MIAMI BEACH. PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER. UH, THERE'S EVEN FITNESS TOURISM. PEOPLE COME THERE TO WORK IN OUTDOOR, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE WORKING ON EXPANSION OF THAT AREA. UM, WE NEED TO SHOW THAT SAME LOVE TO NORTH BEACH. WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS THERE? AND ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, UH, PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT WE HEARD UP HERE IS THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA COME WITH, UH, A NOT INSIGNIFICANT ASK, I DON'T THINK IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UM, BUT SOMETHING WHERE IT COULD PUT US, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME FUNDING CHALLENGES, WHAT ARE SOME CREATIVE WAYS WHERE WE CAN MAYBE PRIVATELY RAISE FUNDING, UM, TO REALLY KICKSTART THIS EXPANSION? OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I KNOW MYSELF AND MANY PEOPLE SAY DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MUSCLE BEACH MAY BE THE MOST TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT WE DID, AT LEAST IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. IT REALLY IS. IT REALLY IS AMAZING. UM, [02:40:01] SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT NORTH, NORTH BEACH AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW AREAS. YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE BESHE PARK AND THE AREA BEHIND IT WHERE WE CALL THE SAND BALL. UM, THAT AREA IS HEAVILY USED BY, UM, VOLLEYBALL, BEACH TENNIS, AND THOSE SAND, UM, NET ACTIVITIES. SO I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND TAKING AWAY ANY SPACE FROM THEM BECAUSE THAT, THAT AREA'S GROWING. SO WE WENT UP TO ALTO STONE MAR PARK, AND WE DO HAVE TWO SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS THERE. AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY SPACE THAT WE HAVE OTHER THAN THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARK ITSELF WITH THE, WITH THE TURF, THE GRASS. UM, IT'S POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS TO THE SOUTH. HOW FAR TO THE SOUTH? OH MY GOD, I TERRIBLE BLOCKS LIKE FOUR BLOCKS, THREE BLOCKS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO REVERSE OCEAN TERRACE, WHICH IS GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC SPACE VERY, VERY SOON. UM, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THOSE TWO VOLLEYBALL COURTS THAT WE HAVE AT ALTOS NOMAR, AND WE COULD PROBABLY MOVE THEM TO THE BEACH SIDE. WE MAY NEED TO REMOVE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY. SO WE WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, FROM THAT GROUP. AND THEN TAKE THAT VOLLEYBALL SPACE AT ALTOS AND TURN THAT INTO OUR NORTH BEACH MUSSEL BEACH. UM, LOOKING AT JUST DOLLAR AMOUNTS WHILE GETTING INTO FUNDRAISING OR SPONSORSHIPS. LOOKING AT WHAT WE DID THE SOUTH BEACH, LOOKING AT ABOUT MAYBE $400,000. I THINK IT MIGHT BE LESS. 'CAUSE THE FOOTPRINT IS LESS. UM, AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY STRONG LEADS ON ANYTHING MAJOR FOR ANY SORT OF SPONSORSHIP YET. ONE GROUP DID COME WITH, UH, I DON'T WANNA PUT THE, PUT THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD. ONE GROUP DID COME WITH SOME MAYBE SMALL DONATION OF SOME EQUIPMENT, BUT NOTHING MAJOR ACTUALLY, LIKE FUND IT OR FUND HALF OF IT. BUT WE CONTINUE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THE, I THINK THE ORIGINAL MU BEACH HAD SOME, A ARTISTIC YES. AND THAT COST THE MONEY AND THAT THERE WAS A, A COST TO THAT. YES. THERE, THERE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS SOME VERY BASIC EQUIPMENT PULL UP OUR AND WHATNOT AT MUSSEL BEACH. AND THEN WE WORKED WITH THE MICRO LIBRIA AND THAT WAS AN ARTISTIC PIECE, THE LEOPARD TREE, IT'S CALLED. UM, THAT'S WHAT THE FOCAL POINT THAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE. AND WE WORKED WITH THE GROUP FROM ITALY THAT BROUGHT, BROUGHT THEM THERE. WE DID GET A DISCOUNT AT THAT TIME. IT WAS THEIR FIRST INSTALLATION, I BELIEVE, AT LEAST IN THE PUBLIC SPACE FOR SURE, IN THE UNITED STATES. UH, BUT THERE WAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, GENERAL IDEA WHAT THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'D BE LOOKING TO SEE. RIGHT. I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS, UH, OF A FOOTPRINT, BUT I, I'M NOT ENVISION, I, WE WANNA DO THINGS WORLD CLASS. RIGHT. NOT JUST LIKE A PULL UP BAR AND UH, SOMEWHERE TO DO PUSHUPS. LIKE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE A DRAW ON AN ATTRACTION ABS. ABSOLUTELY. AND NOTHING LESS. SO WE'D BE LOOKING, IF WE WANTED TO MIRROR WHAT WE DIDN'T, SOUTH BEACH ESTIMATE WOULD BE $400,000. AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ARTISTIC COMPONENT, WHAT WOULD IT BE? I, I WOULD, I'M, I'M GUESSING I WOULD TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND OFF, OFF OF, OFF OF THAT. AND I WAS JUST GUESSING, WE WANNA PUT THE PULL UP BARS. GO AHEAD AND PUT THE, YEAH, BECAUSE THE FITNESS LOCKER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONTAINER THAT HAS ALL OF THE FREE WEIGHTS AND WHATNOT, WE'D WANNA DO THAT, I BELIEVE. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GO TO MUSCLE BEACH ALL THE TIME. UM, AND SO REALLY , MOST OF THE ACTIVITY IS NEAR THE CONTAINERS WHERE THEY HAVE THE PULL UP BARS, THE PUSHUP BAR, NOT, UM, THE BENCH PRESSES, UH, SQUAT RACKS. UM, AND I DON'T THINK THAT COULD, THAT DOESN'T COST $400,000. I MEAN, THAT IS, I MEAN, THAT, THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY COST. RIGHT. REASONABLE. MY, MY ESTIMATE INCLUDED ALL THE COMPONENTS YOU SEE AT, AT, UM, SOUTH. DOES IT INCLUDE MY EQUILIBRIUM? YES. YES. AND NOW OVER AT EVEN A PRY PARK, WE HAVE THE, THE MYBE AND WE HAVE, UM, ON THE, IT WOULD BE THE WEST SIDE OF FLAMINGO PARK TRACK AND FOOTBALL FIELD. WE HAVE. SO THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION WITH THE, INSTEAD OF DOING THE LEOPARD TREE, THERE IS ANOTHER MY, ARE WE LOCKED INTO THAT COST FOR THEM? DO THEY, DO WE HAVE A STANDARD RATE WITH THAT, WITH THAT COMPANY? WE DO NOT HAVE A STANDARD STANDARD RATE WITH THAT COMPANY LIKE CONTRACT. DOES THIS HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT OR, WELL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, THAT WOULD, I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE A PROCUREMENT RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IT. IF NOW WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A WAVE OF BID, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE COMPANY DOES THAT SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT. YEAH, I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MONKEY BARS. I THINK THERE'S, UH, RINGS, UH, MUSCLE UP RINGS. AND FOR, UH, AND I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A, A NICE ARTISTIC STRUCTURE, BUT FOR LIKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE COULD, THIS WAS, THIS WAS, UM, FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY IS I GET MORE DIRECTION. I CAN REFINE THE SCOPE AND, AND GET A MORE, YOU COULD ALWAYS DO THIS IN PHASES. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO IN WITH THE ARTISTIC ELEMENT. I THINK THE ARTISTIC ELEMENT DOES CREATE AN ATTRACTION AND DOES GIVE IT A SENSE OF PLACE. INSTAGRAMMABLE, IT'S VERY, YEAH. AND, AND IT, AND IT GIVES IT A SENSE OF PLACE. I THINK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT IT'S THERE KIND OF GET DRAWN TO IT. UM, BUT, UM, BUT I SEE IT WITH, UH, WITH PRIDE PARK, WHEN I SEE OUTSIDE MY WINDOW, [02:45:01] I THINK THE SCULPTURE THAT'S THERE, IT, IT DOES DRAW THE PEOPLE THERE. AND WE DID FACE SOUTH BEACH, SO, UM, OMI PARK. SO YEAH, THIS IS A VERY FEASIBLE PROJECT IN THAT IT'S COMPONENTS. YOU SET A FOOTPRINT AND YOU PUT YOUR COMPONENTS IN. YEAH. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION DAY WAS ON HOW TO SAVE MONEY. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO LET, IF YOU WANNA COME BACK WITH, UM, MAYBE A PHASE PLAN, BUT I THINK AT THE, AT THE VERY MINIMUM, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THE SAME SORT OF AMENITIES THAT THEY DO IN SOUTH BEACH, RIGHT? MM-HMM . UM, BENCH PRESS. MM-HMM . FREE WEIGHTS, UM, BARS. UM, AND YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO MAYBE ROGUE TO SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO SPONSOR A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT. I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO ROGUE. OKAY. YEAH. PLEASE, YOU KNOW, GET CREATIVE IN SOME OF THE SPONSORSHIPS. MAYBE LET'S BRAINSTORM ABOUT GETTING CREATIVE ABOUT HOW WE COULD DO, UH, ALMOST SOME PARKS AND REC FUNDRAISERS, RIGHT? AND MAYBE IT COULD BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS, UH, SOME OF THESE EXPANSIONS QUICKLY. WE COULD HAVE, UH, SOME TYPE OF HUGE, UH, EVENT, UM, AT MUSEL BEACH WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, ARE COMING DOWN. LET, LET'S GET CREATIVE. UH, MAYBE WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF A QUASI FUNDRAISER. WELL, I, I, TO TO, TO YOUR POINT, BLESS YOU. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD REFER AN ITEM MAYBE BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE. WE USED TO HAVE A FOUNDATION CALLED, I THINK IT WAS CALLED ONE MIAMI BEACH. UM, I THINK THERE'S SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE THIS. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE LIKE A WISHLIST. A WISHLIST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WEALTH THAT'S COMING INTO, INTO THIS COMMUNITY. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE BACK TO MIAMI BEACH, MAKE IT. THE OTHER DAY I SPOKE WITH SOMEONE THAT WANTED TO, TO, TO CONTRIBUTE A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HELP US WITH PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO JUST HAVE WEALTH, WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE, UM, UNFUNDED, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET DONE QUICKER WITH, UH, PRIVATE INVESTMENT. AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT PUTTING TOGETHER A WISHLIST LIKE THAT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY WANT TO COME FORWARD AND BE CHARITABLE AND, UH, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY LEGAL RESTRICTIONS WITH THAT, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE, YEAH. I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S A PROHIBITED DONOR, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED THE COMMISSION TO ACCEPT A DONATION. IF IT'S BELOW A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEN THE MANAGER COULD ACCEPT IT PURSUANT TO A RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED A FEW YEARS AGO. YEAH. BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE CHILDREN, PARKS, MUSSEL, UH, BEACH ACTIVATIONS, CULTURAL STUFF THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDED. AND PEOPLE WITH THE POCKETS THAT ARE MOVING INTO OUR CITY MIGHT SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT TOUCH AN INTEREST OF THEIRS AND THEY MAY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY. SO, AND, AND ALSO FOR THE, AGAIN, THE EQUIPMENT. I, I DON'T, I, I THINK, UH, A COMPANY LIKE ROGUE WOULD JUMP ON THIS TO PUT THEIR BRAND OF EQUIPMENT IN THIS LOCATION. WE JUMP FOR FREE. YOU KNOW, I, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A HIGHLY TARGETED LOCATION, SO I'M SURPRISED YOU GUYS HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. UM, ANY SORT OF, WHICH WAY WHERE WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN IN THE COST COST EFFECTIVE WAY. I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE'S ITEM, YOU KNOW, BE ON LIKE A WARP SPEED, BECAUSE WE ARE CHANGING INTO A FITNESS ORIENTED COMMUNITY, RIGHT? EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE, OUR BRAND IMAGE IS FITNESS AND WELLNESS RELATED. SO, UM, I CERTAINLY WELCOME OUTSIDE FUNDING, BUT I, I THINK WHERE WOULD WE COME, WHERE WOULD THIS ITEM BE NOW? WHAT, WHAT POSITION? YOU'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND TELL US THE STAGES OF FUNDING, OR THAT WAS, DOES THIS GO TO THE COMMISSION NOW? THAT WAS CLARIFICATION I WAS LOOKING FOR. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. WAS IT, AT FIRST, THEY, IT WAS LOOKING LIKE THERE'D BE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STANDARD TO RETURN TO COMMISSION OR THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION CONSIDERING FUNDING THE BUDGET AND ALSO TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A, A SPONSOR TO ASSIST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH I THINK IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE AT THE EXPANSION OF THE SOUTH BEACH ONE, WHICH WAS LESS ABOUT, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL NEW FUNDING, WHICH JUST DIRECTING TO FIND SPONSORS FOR THAT. BUT THEN THERE WAS TALK ABOUT A PHASED IMPLEMENTATION. SO I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PARKS NEEDS TO GET INPUT AND DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC VENDORS OR, YOU KNOW, ROGUE A COMPANY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF THEY WANT TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH A PROGRAM, MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS YOUR ITEM. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THIS? UM, MAYBE IF STAFF COULD LOOK AT SOME SPONSORSHIPS, RIGHT? HAVE A MORE REFINED DEPICTION OF WHAT THIS AREA COULD LOOK LIKE. AND [02:50:01] THEN WE WILL ESSENTIALLY DETERMINE, OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE THINK SOME SPONSORSHIPS COULD COME FROM, UH, AND THEN WHERE COULD WE ESSENTIALLY PLUG THAT FUNDING GAP? SO THIS IS IF, IF, AND HELP ME OR, OR PERHAPS IT'S EVEN SOMETHING THE CRA WOULD, UH, TAKE UP AS WELL. SO THAT WOULD BE A, A SEPARATE ISSUE. BUT I THINK ON, ON YOURS, AND, AND I'LL ASK RICK TO CHIME IN IF I'M, I'M OFF ON THIS, IS, UH, THAT I THINK YOU WOULD SEND IT BACK TO COMMISSION TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO THEN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT AND SEEKING SPONSORS THROUGH THE VARIOUS AVENUES THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM, JOHN? YEAH. YES. AND I'LL, I'LL WORK ON THIS. I'LL WORK ON THE PHASING PLAN, EVERYTHING. WHY WE CLARITY JASON, IS WE'D WANT TO TAKE THE BUDGET PROCESSES NOW IF I DON'T COME BACK TO JULY WITH A PHASING PLAN AND WE'VE MISSED THE 22ND BUDGET, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, SO, SO THAT WAS PART OF THE THING IS, IS IS IT SOMETHING, 'CAUSE ON THE SOUTH BEACH ITEM THAT YOU HAD ON IT, IT WASN'T ABOUT FUNDING, IT WAS ABOUT JUST DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A, A SPONSOR AND, AND TO IMPLEMENT AS THE SPONSORSHIP COMES UP. OR IS THIS ABOUT KIND OF A BLEND OF THE TWO, MEANING THAT IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT ALSO DIRECT FINDING A SPONSOR? AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. YEAH. HE'S ABLE TO DO, LET'S PUT IT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. I, I, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG WISHLIST THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE. UM, SO I WANT TO, AND SO I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, SECOND OPTIONS IF THIS DOESN'T GET FUNDED IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE. I DON'T WANT THIS BEING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S JUST KICKED DOWN THE ROAD. I WANT SOME ALTERNATIVE, UH, FUNDING MECHANISMS. THANK COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER I, HOW MUCH IS THE TOTAL COST OF A MUSSEL BEACH? IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. WE WAS SAYING THREE TO 400,000. $300,000. AND COULD WE TAKE THAT OF, THE REASON I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT THIS REALLY DOES CREATE COMMUNITY. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T HANG OUT AT MUSSEL BEACH LIKE YOU GUYS DO. YOU SHOULD , BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO. I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT RELIGIOUSLY GOES TO MUSSEL BEACH AND LIKE NOW THEY'RE EVEN LIKE, LIKE SELLING COCONUT JUICES, LIKE WATERS THERE. SO IT'S CREATING A REAL COMMUNITY SPACE. AND BY THE WAY, NORTH BEACH NEEDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT IN SOUTH BEACH. WE COULD EITHER USE IT FOR, UH, IN TOURISM TAXES. MAYBE YOU TAKE HALF OF IT OUT OF THE CRA AND HALF OF IT OUT OF TOURISM, BUT JUST GET THAT FUNDED AND GET IT UP AND GOING, BECAUSE PARKS WE GET IMMEDIATELY PRETTY MUCH, JOHN IS REALLY GOOD AT GOING OUT THERE, SETTING UP THE PARK. IT'S SOMETHING THAT RESIDENCY, IT HAS AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT. AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO LIKE THAT WHILE WE'RE WAITING 10 TO 20 YEARS TO GET A CAPITAL PROJECT COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY LET'S GO FOR IT. BECAUSE AT LEAST IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE PROACTIVELY DOING SOMETHING. YEAH, I, I THINK THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, A TREMENDOUS BANG FOR THE BUCK AND COMMISSIONER. I THINK THAT, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, THAT THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART OF THE SECOND PART OF THAT MOTION IS TO, IF IT ISN'T FIND FUNDING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, IS DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND SPONSORSHIP. SO IF IT, I'M JUST MAKING A NUMBER UP. IF IT ENDS UP BEING A $300,000 ENHANCEMENT, UH, IF IT DOESN'T FIND FUNDING OR PARTIAL FUNDING, UH, BY GOING HAVING THAT DIRECTION, IT WOULDN'T FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. YOU WOULD STILL DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A, A SPONSOR TO PERHAPS IMPLEMENT IT, UH, IN ANOTHER WAY OR PARTIALLY. SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT IS THE MOTION, AND TO HAVE IT ON THE JUNE BUDGET AS AN AMENDMENT, THE MOTION, MY UNDERSTANDING THE MOTION IS TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE 26TH BUDGET PROCESS AND JUST, AND THAT'S THE PART OF THE PROCESS. OR JUST HAVE IT AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND JUST GET IT DONE. PULL IT, PULL SOME FROM THAT WE CAN GET PERMISSION TO PULL SOME OF IT FROM THE CRA, PULL SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM A TOURISM RESERVE AND JUST GET THAT DONE OVER THE SUMMER. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU IF WE FUND IT, JOHN, TO GET THAT DONE? OH, I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE LEAD TIE FOR THE EQUIPMENT. BUT LESS THAN A YEAR. I'M THINKING SIX, SIX TO NINE ON. NO, IT'S GONNA TAKE A YEAR. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, JASON, AS PART OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE PUSHING THROUGH, MAYBE YOU JUST LIKE REPAY US WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE FUTURE TO WE, WE, ACCORDING TO OUR POLICIES, WE HAVE TO REPLENISH THESE FUNDS. BUT IF WE DON'T FUND IT NOW AND YOU WAIT TO FUND IT, THAT'S HOW WE GET TO PLACES WHERE IT TAKES TWO AND THREE YEARS TO DO SOMETHING. WE COULD EVEN TAKE SOME OF THE REVENUE THAT'S BEING GENERATED FROM THE PADDLE RFP IN, IN YOUR, OKAY. I I WOULD JUST, I WOULDN'T COMPLICATE THINGS. I WOULD SAY HALF FROM, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD GET IT FROM THE CRAI GET IT FROM THE CRA AND IF YOU CAN'T GET IT FROM THE CRA, THEN DO HALF AND HALF, JUST DO A LITTLE TOURISM, A LITTLE CRA AND, AND I WOULD PULL IT TOGETHER ON THE CAI WOULD'VE TO ASK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT, THEY SURE IF THEY'RE HERE, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ANSWER, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE TO BE WARY ON THE EMERGENCY CCRA FUNDING THIS. IT'S PART OF, THIS IS RIGHT IF THEY ALI THOUGH THIS, IF WE SEE IF THE, SEE IF IT'S APPROVED, PART OF THE APPROVED PLAN. UM, AND ALSO I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION HAS EXPENDED ALL, I THINK, IF NOT ALL OF THE RESERVES ALREADY OF THE, THE CRA, UH, MOST OF IT. SO I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IF THERE'S ANY MONEY LEFT. UM, SO WHAT I WOULD ASK THE SPONSOR THEN IS WHAT IS THE MOTION THAT'S PUT IT IN THE JUNE BUDGET PROCESS AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS ROLLING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO PART OF THE [02:55:01] BUDGET AMENDMENT, NOBODY'S VOTING AGAINST THE MUSEL BEACH IN NORTH. SO WHAT WE WOULD SHOW IS THAT A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT A NORTH BEACH, UH, MUSSEL BEACH, UM, MUSEL BEACH AND TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO FIND A SPONSOR TO ASSIST WITH IMPLEMENTATION. AFTER THAT, UH, ITEM PASSES, THEN WE WOULD BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, FROM, UH, AN APPLICABLE SOURCE, UH, TO FUND THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST MENTION SOMETHING? YES. I LOVE THIS IDEA. I LOVE MUSSEL BEACH. I LOVE THE ENERGY IT CREATES THE PEOPLE THAT IT ATTRACTS, THE COMMUNITY THAT IT PUTS TOGETHER. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD JUST MENTION, IT'D BE GREAT AS WE DO THIS HERE, TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS PHYSICALLY AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S RIGHT THERE BEHIND, UH, THAT BOWL AREA AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING THAT, AN ELEMENT OF IT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT KEEPS THEM IN MIND. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OF DIVERSE AGE GROUPS AS WE DO HAVE THE ELDERLY PEOPLE, SENIOR SWINGS. IT'S A GREAT POINT. I KNOW IT'S BIASED. I DON'T WANT THIS JUST FOR ADVANCED ATHLETES LIKE MYSELF. I'D LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE COMMISSIONER SUAREZ THERE. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, CAN WE JUST CALL HIM COMMENT? YES. LARRY SCHAFER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. I, UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO MR. REBAR STAFF. GOT THE LOCATION RIGHT ON THIS ONE IMMEDIATELY. I, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DEBATE THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THIS. UH, REGARDING THE FUNDING, THERE WAS A, A FITNESS CENTER SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN THE 72ND STREET GARAGE. IT'S POSSIBLE TO USE GEO BOND MONEY, UH, FOR THAT ALLOCATION OVER HERE FOR A FITNESS CENTER THAT'S OUTDOORS. UM, MAYBE JASON GREEN CAN ANSWER THAT REGARDING THE CRA. I THINK THEY'RE FULLY SPENT, BUT MAYBE GET ON THE AGENDA FOR A SECOND PHASE OR EXPANSION. UH, AGREED WITH ALEX WHO MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THE MIX OF EQUIPMENT FOR NORTH BEACH FOR AN OLDER CROWD. WE'RE NORTH BEACH FIT. WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE OLDER. WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE NEED, MAY, MAY NEED DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT. UH, YES TO ARTISTIC ELEMENT. YOU HAVE $25 MILLION HOMES IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THIS ALTOS DEL MAR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. MAYBE GO AND ASK THEIR ASSOCIATION IF THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO MAKE IT LOOK, LOOK BETTER. AND FINALLY, 76 0 5 COLLINS, BETSY PEREZ PLACE HAS SPACE UNDER AIR FOR IN, UH, INTERIOR, UH, FITNESS EQUIPMENT. IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE JUST AS ANOTHER IDEA, I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION IS LOOKING FOR TURTLE REHAB OR MARINE LIFE CENTER THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE FITNESS EQUIPMENT UNDER AIR. THANK YOU TO JOE FOR SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, LARRY. UH, CHAIR, JUST NEED TO NOTE WHO, UH, WHO MAKES THAT MOTION? AM I ABLE TO, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. YEAH, I'LL SECOND. SO WE'LL SHOW COMMISSIONER SUAREZ A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SHOW PASS THREE. NOTHING. CAN WE HEAR, UH, 37 AND THEN ADUR, THIS IS A QUICK, I JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. YES. SINCE, SINCE THE, UM, SINCE 76 0 5 WAS JUST BROUGHT UP, AND I KNOW WE HAVE AN ITEM, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S BEFORE US AT BUDGET ABOUT SEEING HOW WE BUY THIS BACK THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND. WE JUST HAD OUR, UH, SECOND QUARTER, UH, UPDATE THAT OUR CITY MANAGER JUST SENT TO US. AND WE HAVE, UH, WHAT IS IT, $4 MILLION? IT'S, I THINK IT'S ABOUT, UH, 4.7 IS THE $4.7 MILLION SURPLUS PROJECTED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THOSE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE USE THOSE DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE, UM, TO ACQUIRE 76 0 5 THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND BACK FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND SO THAT WE DON'T PLACE THE BURDEN OF THAT COMPLETELY ON THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT THERE INTO THE UNIVERSE, UH, BECAUSE I JUST KNOW IF WE JUST STORE IT ALL COMPLETELY INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IS JUST GONNA MAKE THE, THE NUMBERS EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE. OKAY. DO, UH, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO EXTEND? YES. OKAY. WE CAN MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND SECOND 15 MINUTES ITEM. I'LL SECOND. IT'S JUST ONE ITEM. SO WE'LL SHOW, SHOW IT EXTENDED. UH, AND THEN LET ME READ IN ITEM, WHICH ITEM WAS IT? 37? 37. 37 [NB 37. DISCUSS SENIOR MEAL SITE PROGRAMMING AT SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER] MB 37. DISCUSS SENIOR MEAL SITE PROGRAMMING AT SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER. MB 37 FOR THIS ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MARCEL RUBIO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. JUST TO PROVIDE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SENIOR MEAL SITE PROGRAMMING THAT WOULD SERVE UP TO 50 SENIORS AT THE SOUTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT'S IT. 50 SENIORS, UP TO 50 SENIORS. WHY ARE WE DOING UP TO 50 SENIORS? THERE WERE LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE DOWN THERE THAT WERE ON A WAIT LIST. I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE. WELL, WE'RE, WE PUT OUT AN ITN FOR UP TO 50 SENIORS, UH, WITH THE EXPECTATION TO RECEIVE THAT GROW OVER TIME. AND SO WE ARE NOW ON NEGOTIATING TERMS WITH, UH, [03:00:01] THE SELECTED VENDOR, JEWISH COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE TOUR THE SITE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH FACILITY STAFF AND WITH PROCUREMENT TO FINALIZE THE DETAILS AND WORK ON A BUDGET WITH THEM TO, UM, GET THE SERVICES UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS THE AGREEMENT IS FINALIZED. WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS IT GETS HOTTER IN SUMMER, THE SENIORS ARE LITERALLY STUCK IN THEIR APARTMENTS AND WITH NO PLACE TO GO. AND SO I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION, 'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, HOW MUCH, HOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED DATE? CAN YOU GET THIS UP WITHIN A MONTH? I MEAN, HOW, LIKE WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE REPAIR SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN JUNE THIS MONTH. MM-HMM . AND, UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE THE SERVICES FINALIZED AND OR READY TO GO BY JULY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, WITH JCS ON THAT. OKAY. HOW MANY SENIORS DO WE HAVE THERE BEFORE? UH, AT SOME POINT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO 75 SENIORS. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY EXCEEDED. WHY WAS THE ITNI MEAN, WE, I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA OF OUR CITY WHERE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS THAT DO EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITIES. AND WE HAVE A, A LOT OF THIS IS OUR ES AREA, SORRY, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOMES. HOW DO WE, WHAT? AND THERE'S PROBABLY A REASONING, A THINKING BEHIND LIMITING THE ITN TO 50. WELL, RE, OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, $175,000 WERE ALLOCATED AND WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT $8 A MEAL, UH, PER DAY. SO TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE, THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM. OKAY. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE NUTRITIONAL, WHICH NUTRITIONAL STANDARDS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. OH, YES. UH, KOSHER MEALS ARE AT EIGHT DO ABOUT $8 OR SO. OKAY. BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, NUTRITIONAL STANDARD MEALS, NUTRITIONAL STANDARDS, YES. YEAH, BASED SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE VENDORS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE OF, OF LOW MEANS, THEY'LL GIVE THEM ALL, YOU KNOW, STARCH, YOU KNOW, AND NOT SUFFICIENT PROTEIN AND, AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN NUTRITIONAL STANDARD THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO. AND, AND THERE'S ALSO A RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING COMPONENT TO IT. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE MEALS, BUT THERE IS SOME SOCIAL, UH, COMPONENT. THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THIS IS TO KEEP THIS ON THE AGENDA UNTIL THE JULY MEETING, AND HOPEFULLY IN JULY WE'RE GONNA GET THE UPDATE THAT IT'S UP, IT'S RUNNING. AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS, IF YOU WANNA OPEN THIS FOUNDATION, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE POTENTIALLY MIGHT NEED TO FUND TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THIS AND UNI JOB. MAYBE WE CAN RAISE MONEY FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD SAY, YES, WE WANNA FUND SENIORS, WE WANNA FUND, UH, GAPS IN SCHOOL LUNCHES OR SCHOOL BREAKFAST OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. SO COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE ON THE ONE MIAMI BEACH THING BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP TO SAY, ONE MIAMI BEACH, A MILLION DOLLARS, THEN LOOK, YOU GET A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE FUNDING SENIORS, YOU'RE FUNDING CHILDREN, YOU'RE FUNDING MUSSEL, BEACHES AND ALL SORTS OF, UH, PARKS PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM. SO I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO BE GOING TO DEVELOPERS, BUT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD. AND YOU KNOW IT TRUE, BUT AS WE, BUT IF WE HAD THAT VEHICLE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD THAT VEHICLE AT WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE COULD JUST SAY, BUT YOU KNOW, YES, PART OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT GOES TO ONE MIAMI BEACH, AND THEN WHEN WE DO HAVE THESE REQUESTS, IT WILL BE FUNDED. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S FUNDING, THAT HAS A, A LIKE SERIOUS, UM, IMPACT. SO MY MOTION WOULD JUST BE TO, UH, KEEP THIS ON, GET AN UPDATE IN JULY AND LET'S GET IT OPEN SO THAT THE SENIORS FROM L LAB, AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU NEED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE I FROM 15 TO 75, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE FOR JULY TOO. BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND LIKE 75 TO A HUNDRED SENIORS BASED ON NEED. I MEAN, I THINK THAT PRICES ARE ESCALATING AT SUPERMARKETS. A CAFE LON, EVEN CAFE LAVE IS LIKE $8 MM-HMM . AND THAT'S JUST LIKE, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. IT WAS TWO OR $3 LIKE A YEAR AGO. SO I MOVE THIS ESCALATION AND COST. OKAY. SECOND. SO WE, WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM HER AND THE RETURN IN JULY. HOW MUCH CAFE PILON HAVE YOU HAD TODAY? CHRIS DID HAVE SEVERAL MEANING ADJOURNED. MR. CHAIR, I'D BE REMISS NOT TO RECOGNIZE THAT TODAY IS THE BIRTHDAY OF OUR DEAR COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER LAURA DOMINGUEZ AND FROM HER COLLEAGUE SIERRA. WE JUST WANT TO WISH HER A BEAUTIFUL AND BLESSED BIRTHDAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY LAURA. LOVE YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.