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THE MEETING IS ABOUT TO BEGIN.
REMEMBER TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AS THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED FOR PUBLIC RECORD, PLEASE STAND BY.
WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE JUNE 17TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
I'M JOHN STEWART AND I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO BEGIN TO THE HEAD OF PRESERVATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, DEBBIE TACKETT.
UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, MITCH NOVIK.
UM, WELCOME BACK, I SHOULD SAY, TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
YOU'VE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY WELL OVER, UH, SEVERAL DECADES AND WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF OR SAY A FEW WORDS.
IN 1989, I FORMED MY MIAMI BEACH BASED COMPANY, WHERE I RESTORED BUILDINGS FROM THE 1930S, FORTIES, AND FIFTIES, AND MANAGED THE, UH, OR CONTINUE TO MANAGE, UH, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, AND PREVIOUSLY I SERVED ON THIS BOARD FOR SIX YEARS, FROM 2001 TO 2007, AT WHICH TIME I MOVED OVER TO THE COUNTY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND SERVED UNTIL, UH, MID 2018.
UH, MOST NOTABLY, I'M ESPECIALLY PROUD OF HAVING SERVED ON FORMER MAYOR ER'S BLUE RIBBON PANEL ON THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF BUILDINGS WHERE WE ANALYZE THE CAUSE AND EFFECT FAILURE OF STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS. AND, UH, I'M PROUD A FEW OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HAD BEEN ADOPTED INTO CITY CODE, SUCH AS HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH CASES OF, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT OF CONFORMING AND NON-CONFORMING BUILDINGS, THE PRESUMPTION OF REPLICATION AND, UH, THE CRITICAL NEED, UH, FOR THIS CITY TO MAINTAIN A DATABASE OF VACANT BUILDINGS, UH, AS THOSE ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE TO DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK HERE AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, DEBBIE.
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ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MORNING BEFORE WE GET STARTED.UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
UM, THAT DOES CONSTITUTE A QUORUM.
HOWEVER, ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING DO REQUIRE FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
SO ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING FOR FORMAL ACTION.
HOWEVER, IF ANY OF THE APPLICANTS, UM, ON THE AGENDA WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AND OBTAIN FEEDBACK, UM, WE WOULD WELCOME THAT AS WELL AS PUBLIC COMMENT, ALL REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES, WE'LL ALLOW FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, TO COMMENT ON THAT REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
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SAID, I'M GONNA TURN, TURN IT OVER TO NICKAND GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT'S STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING.
VIRTUALLY THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF YOU'RE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY
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SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.
IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
[SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC]
SWEAR IN ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND STAFF WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY.PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
[3. HPB24-0641, 1800 Michigan Avenue. ]
APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS HPB 24 0 6 4 1.UM, IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS GOING, GOING TO FOREGO A PRESENTATION AND REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS.
UM, DO THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR MYSELF OR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS, DEBBIE? NO.
UM, WE CAN OPEN UP, UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS HPB 24 0 6 4 1.
IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING I SEE ON ZOOM.
UH, YEAH, THIS IS JOHN COURTNEY.
SORRY, THERE'S A BIT OF AN ECHO 10 26 18TH STREET.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK THAT BEFORE THE BOARD CONTINUES, THE 1800 MICHIGAN ITEM THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO THE APPLICANT AND IMPLORING THEM TO SECURE THEIR PROPERTY AGAINST FURTHER DEGRADATION, UH, IN THEIR OWN APPLICATION, YOU'LL FIND A CERTIFIED REPORT FROM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, WHICH FOUND MULTIPLE SOURCES OF ACTIVE MOISTURE INTRUSION.
AND THESE WERE CONSIDERED THE CAUSE OF THE MOISTURE DAMAGE IN THE HOME.
AND YET SINCE RECEIVING THIS REPORT OVER FOUR MONTHS AGO, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE NO EFFORT TO PATCH THE ACTIVE LEAKS.
AND I THINK IT, I FIND IT HARD TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO AN OWNER WHO KNOWS ABOUT MAJOR LEAKS IN THE ROOF, BUT DOESN'T FIX THEM.
AND THIS IS ALSO A VIOLATION EXHIBIT PROB, I JUST ASK THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT STOP THE ONGOING DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT BEFORE THEY RETURN TO CASES BOARD.
UM, I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.
UM, SEEING NONE AND THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO, THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE TO RESPOND OR IS THERE OKAY.
UH, GOOD MORNING, EMILY BALTER, ARDAL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAP OPPOSITE 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE SHORT BOARD TODAY, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE JULY MEETING.
UH, THERE IS A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS SITE AND WE, UH, WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU WITH A FULL BOARD.
UH, ANY BOARD MEMBER COMMENT ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANY QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT? NO.
YEAH, NO, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE COMMENT FROM THE PERSON ON ZOOM.
UM, DOES THE CITY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? HOW DO WE HANDLE THE FACT THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL, UH, NEGLECT ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES? SO, UM, I'M AWARE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, UM, FOR THE SUBJECT SITE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE A STAFF, UM, BEEN URGING THE APPLICANT TO PULL PERMITS FOR REPAIR.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A PENDING APPLICATION BEFORE THIS BOARD, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM PULLING BUILDING PERMITS FOR REPAIRING THE STRUCTURE.
UM, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN SOME ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF LOT CLEARANCE AND CLEANING OUT SOME OVERGROWN LANDSCAPING AND TRASH REMOVAL, UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO BUILDING PERMITS APPLIED FOR MR. CHAIR.
UH, DEBORAH, I'M ASSUMING THE PRO PROPERTY IS VACANT.
UH, IS IT, WOULD THE CITY, UH, OR, OR IS IT IN
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YOUR OPINION THAT TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERN A CONSTRUCTION FENCE, UH, PROPERLY SCREENED, UH, BE, UH, PLACED, UH, ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? YES, THAT IS ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR ANY VACANT PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO HAVE A, A, ACTUALLY A METAL PICKET FENCE TO SECURE THE PROPERTY AND TO SECURE ALL OF THE OPENINGS IN THE PROPERTY TO PREVENT ACCESS, UM, BY UNAUTHORIZED INDIVIDUALS.SO I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED FAILURE TO OBTAIN THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE REQUIRED FENCING.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE DO, UM, URGE THEM TO CURE ALL VIOLATIONS, UM, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN MOVE FORWARD AND, AND TRY TO OBTAIN SOME BUILDING PERMITS FOR, FOR REPAIR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED, WE THINK, UM, IS A GOOD IDEA.
SO ARE, ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN RECOMMEND THAT WE AS A BOARD, UH, DO AT THIS TIME? UH, ALONG, WELL, THIS, THIS, JUST TO ADDRESS WHAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS, AND I'M NOT SURE THERE IS ANYTHING BUT THIS, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
SO THERE IS NO ORDER OF THE BOARD, SO WE CANNOT, UM, IMPOSE ANY REQUIREMENTS OR CONDITIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, CERTAINLY I THINK, YOU KNOW, REPEATING THE CONCERN AND THE DESIRE TO SEE SOME ACTUAL REPAIR WORK, UM, DONE.
AND, AND THERE COULD BE SOME TEMPORARY MEASURES IF, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S, THERE'S ROOF ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY MEASURES TO PREVENT MOISTURE INTRUSION COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
UM, I WOULD URGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND DISCUSS WHAT MEASURES COULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, RELATIVELY QUICKLY TO SECURE THE BUILDING.
BUT AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THIS IS, EXCUSE ME, A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF.
IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, SOMETHING THE BOARD COULD, COULD RECOMMEND TO THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
AT THIS TIME IN THE CONTINUANCE? YEAH.
AS A, AS A RECOMMENDATION, YES.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION IS THE PERMIT, THE EVENTUAL PERMIT FOR THE NEW PROJECT CONTINGENT TO PAYING ALL THE PAST DUE FINES THAT IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY'S SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE PAYMENT OF THOSE, OF THOSE FINES.
SO IN OTHER, IN OTHER WORDS, FINES HAVE ACCRUED, I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, STATUS OF THOSE VIOLATIONS ARE.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE FINES ACCRUING.
WE DO HAVE ACTIVE CASES AND WE'VE TIMELY REQUESTED EXTENSIONS AND GONE BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND OBTAINED ADDITIONAL TIME.
IS THE BUILDING SECURE FROM THE ELEMENTS? UH, WHETHER THAT BE, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE ROOF OR WINDOWS, UH, ARE THEY EXPOSED TO BOARDED, UH, WEATHER CONDITIONS? OKAY.
SO WITH THAT, RAY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? NOPE.
UH, DO I, CAN I GET A, A MOTION TO, UM, TO CONTINUE WITH MAYBE ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF HAD OR, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, CONTINUE HPV TWO FOUR DASH 0 6 4 1 TO THE JULY MEETING.
AND, UH, UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT, OF COURSE.
UM, BUT IT, IT DOES SAY THAT THE, UM, IT SAYS, OKAY, NEVERMIND.
THIS WILL BE HEARD AT THE JULY 8TH MEETING.
DID, UH, THE MEETING MINUTES AT SOME POINT? WE HAVE, YES,
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WE DID SKIP, UM, THE SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 13TH, 2025 MINUTES.UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
OKAY, DEBORAH, I HAVE AN ISSUE AS I WASN'T SERVING AT THAT TIME.
CAN I SECOND IF I'M I CHAIR IN THE MEETING? UM, THE CHAIRMAN CAN FOR THE CHAIRMAN CAN SECOND, UM, MITCH, EVEN THOUGH YOU WEREN'T HERE, YOU CAN STILL VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE MINUTES.
I, UH, I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THEM.
I, UH, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, UM, IF YOU'RE SITTING ON THE DAYS YOU HAVE TO VOTE YAY
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OR NAY.SO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REVIEW THE YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHEAT OFF MY HOMEWORK.
[4. HPB24-0632, 1730 Jefferson Avenue.]
ON THE AGENDA IS HPB 24 IS 0 6 3 2.THIS IS 1730 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING HOME AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, INCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF ATTACHED ADDITIONS AND VARIANCES FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE UNIT SIZE AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IS THE APPLICANT ON ZOOM.
THEY DID REACH OUT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TODAY.
UM, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE REPRESENTING, UH, THE APPLICATION EITHER ON ZOOM OR IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS APPLICATION, UH, BE CONTINUED TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
DO CAN THE PUBLIC MEETING? YEP.
ONCE WE, ARE WE READY TO OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HI, HOW ARE YOU DOING? MY NAME'S DAVE, AND THIS IS MY WIFE LAURA.
WE ARE THE FAMILY THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO WHICH THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING THAT THEY BUILD A, UH, SECOND STORY ON TOP OF THEIR, UH, ONE STORY EXISTING GUEST HOUSE.
THE ONE STORY EXISTING GUEST HOUSE IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CLOSE AND WITHIN THE SETBACK OF MODERN TIMES.
AND THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING TO PUT A SECOND STORY ON THAT.
UH, WHEN WE HAD THE PREVIOUS MEETING, OBVIOUSLY THEY REQUIRED A VARIANCE TO BUILD OUT PAST THE 15 FEET, UH, WHICH IS WHAT'S REQUIRED WITH A SECOND STORY.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CODE IS, IS NOT PERFECT.
UM, THE BOARD TOLD THEM TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT MET THE CODE, WHICH MEANT A, A SETBACK OF 15 FEET ON A MINIMUM.
ON THE SECOND STORY, IT APPEARS THAT WHAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE IS PUT A HABITABLE ROOF DECK UP TO THE 15 FEET OR COVERED BALCONY, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
IN ADDITION, THEY DID THIS VERY WEIRD THING WHERE THEY COVERED UP THE SLIDING DOORS THAT LEAD TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROOF DECK WITH THE LABELS BATHROOM ONE AND BATHROOM TWO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED TO SEE.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CODE, WHICH IS NOT PERFECT, IS THAT YOU NEED A 10 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE, THE BUILDING FOR ROOF DECK AND FOR A COVERED BALCONY THAT'S HABITABLE, YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO HAVE IT WITH THE SETBACK.
IT HAS TO BE 15 FEET BACK, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE.
UH, SO WE FOUND THIS AS A, AS A RESOLUTION TO THEIR INITIAL PROBLEM.
WE ALSO DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY DID NOT SAY THEY REQUIRED A VARIANCE WHEN IT VERY CLEARLY DOES.
UH, SO JUST AS A OPENER, I ACTUALLY HAVE THE LITTLE, I HAVE A SCREENSHOT OF THE DIAGRAM HERE, SINCE THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
IS THAT, WOULD ANYBODY, LIKE, I KNOW WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE DRAWINGS IN OUR PACKETS AND WE'RE NOT REALLY VOTING ON THE, WE'RE ONLY VOTING ON WHETHER TO CONTINUE IT, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, YOUR BEING HERE.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AS WELL? NO, I JUST AGREE AND SUPPORT.
IT IS VERY MISLEADING HOW IT'S LABELED BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT THE BATHROOMS AND SO YOU CAN'T OBVIOUSLY TELL, AND THIS WOULD HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE HAVE PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO OUR HOUSE, AND WE'VE MADE IT EVEN MORE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE IN RECENT RENOVATIONS, AND WE'RE PUTTING MORE, AND WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING BY CODE.
AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS PRETTY CHALLENGING SITUATION FOR US.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
AND, UH, FOR COMING HERE TODAY.
UM, AND I THINK WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY, ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC INTERESTED IN SPEAKING? THANK YOU.
I'M ROGER BLAD, UH, 1750 JAMES AVENUE.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE INSTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, PARTICULARLY THE
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CONCRETE EYEBROWS.UH, DESPITE CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE HPB IN ITS APRIL MEETING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC FAC FACADE, THE APPLICANT HAS AGAIN PROPOSED DEMOLITION AND ALTERATION TO THE DEFINING ELEMENTS OF THIS PROTECTED ART DECO STRUCTURE.
WE OPPOSE ELEVATING THE EYEBROWS ABOVE THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATION, SQUARING OFF THE ROUNDED ART DECO STYLING AND REPLACING CONCRETE ELEMENTS WITH ALUMINUM OR METAL MATERIALS.
THE PROPOSED LIGHTING CHANGES ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE STYLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING SIGNIFICANT ART DECO HOMES IN SOUTH BEACH.
AND THESE ALTERATIONS FUNDAMENTALLY COMPRISE ITS COMPROMISE, ITS HISTORIC INTEGRITY.
WE BELIEVE THESE DESIGN CHANGES SHOULD BE DENIED AND THE OUT DECO FACADE MUST BE PRESERVED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BY THE BOARD? MR. CHAIR? WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, TWO PEOPLE ON, ON ZOOM.
UM, I DID NOTICE THAT THE ARCHITECT FOR REPRESENTING THE, THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT IS ON ZOOM, EDWIN HERRERA.
EDWIN, I DIDN'T SEE YOU EARLIER, BUT WE ARE, UM, DISCUSSING 1730 JEFFERSON AVENUE CURRENTLY.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? YES.
UM, MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING THERE, PERSON THINK, BUT, UM, WE, SORRY TO GO BACK TO, WE WOULD LIKE THE CONTINUANCE OBVIOUSLY TO PRESENT THE, THE APPLICATION FURTHER, BUT IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBOR IN THE REAR, UM, THAT WAS JUST A TEXT MISTAKE THAT THAT IS, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT ON THAT PAGE, THE BATHROOM NUMBER ONE AND BATHROOM NUMBER TWO REMAIN IN THE ORIGINAL LABEL.
UM, THAT'S JUST A TEXT MISTAKE IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, AND WE REALLY DID TAKE THE INPUT FROM NOT ONLY THE COMMENTS RECEIVED BY THE PUBLIC, BUT BY THE BOARD AS WELL.
AND WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE PLAN DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS REQUIRED.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GLADLY, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW DO YOU SAY, UH, GO ON FURTHER TO EXPLAIN ON, ON THE NEXT MEETING AND, AND MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTED THAT WE DID TAKE NOTE OF, OF ALL THE COMMENTS RECEIVED.
OUR, UM, NEXT, UH, SPEAKER IS CHRIS GLODE.
I AM THE OWNER AND RESIDENT OF 1 7 6 0, WHICH IS THREE LOTS NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND, UH, ROGER, WHO SPOKE EARLIER REALLY HIT ON ALL OF MY POINTS, BUT PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE ELOQUENTLY, EVEN THOUGH I HEARD EDWIN SAY THAT HE'S WORKED WITH STAFF.
YOU'LL NOTE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY STILL ARE ADVOCATING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE FACADE.
AND WHILE THE APPLICANT MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE, THE FACADE FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION, IT'S STILL NOT AN ART DECO HOME.
IT STILL DOES NOT PRESERVE THE FACADE.
AND THIS IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE APPLICANTS THAT DON'T WANT AN ART DECO HOME IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'M JUST GONNA CALL OUT WHAT I HEARD ROGER SAY.
THERE'S, THEY STILL ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE FACADES, ELEVATING THEM.
THEY ARE SQUARING THE ROUNDED EDGES OF THE F OF, I'M SORRY, NOT THE FACADE.
THEY'RE ELEVATING THE EYEBROW.
THEY'RE SQUARING THE ROUNDED EDGES OF THE EYEBROW.
THEY'RE EXTENDING THE EYEBROW, THEY'RE CHANGING THE MATERIAL OF THE EYEBROWS FROM CONCRETE TO NOW SOME PERHAPS ALUMINUM SIDING OF SOME VARIETY.
AND THEY'RE ADDING CANNED LIGHTING.
ALL OF IT AMOUNTS TO ELIMINATING THIS HISTORIC FACADE.
AND IT IS ONE OF, BY MY COUNT, PERHAPS FIVE, UH, ART DECO HOMES, TRUE ART DECO HOMES IN SOUTH BEACH.
I HOPE THAT IN THE JULY MEETING, THE BOARD WILL VOTE TO PRESERVE THIS IMPORTANT FACADE.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.
UM, SO HEARING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR DEBBIE OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? NO.
UM, DEBBIE, I WAS JUST WONDERING AGAIN, KIND OF IN THE SAME VEIN AS THE LAST, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE AS A BOARD CAN DO TO, UH, RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP THAT DRAWING, FOR EXAMPLE? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN EVEN ASK FOR IN A CONTINUANCE? SINCE THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE? I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD REQUEST ANY CHANGES TO THE PLANS AT THIS POINT.
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THINK YOUR COMMENTS WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST MEETING.UM, AND STAFF HAS, HAS RELAYED NOT ONLY STAFF'S, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THE BOARD'S PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO DISCUSS PRIOR TO THE JULY MEETING.
AND JUST FOR MY INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE, IF WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UM, PROJECTS CONTINUED AND WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MEANTIME, UM, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO MODIFY THEIR, UM, THEIR RECOMMENDATION, UM, BASED UPON, BASED UPON THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN AN OPPORTUNITY.
I'M NOT A, I DUNNO HOW THIS WORKS.
WELL, I CAN, I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, IS BASED ON THE, ON THE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON ITS ORDER ONCE THIS DOES COME BEFORE YOU FOR A FORMAL VOTE MM-HMM
UM, AND I THINK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME WHERE THE BOARD AND STAFF CAN RESPOND TO INFORMATION PRESENTED, UH, BY THE PUBLIC.
AND CAN THE APPLICANT SUBMIT ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING? THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PRESENT ANY CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND JULY BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
IF THEY WANTED TO SUBMIT SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANS THAT ARE PART OF THE CURRENT RECORD, THEY COULD DO THAT PHOTOGRAPHS, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION, BUT NOT A DIFFERENT DESIGN CAN.
SO BASICALLY, IF ANY OF THE COMMENTS TODAY MAY SPARK THEIR IMAGINATION INTO CHANGING SOMETHING, IT, WE WILL NOT SEE THAT NEXT MEETING WILL BE NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE.
COULD BE, COULD BE CHANGED AT THIS POINT.
CAN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT PER, UM, REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO KIND OF SEE IF THEY CAN ADDRESS? YEAH, CERTAINLY YOU COULD DO THAT.
THE APPLICANT DID SAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, UM, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT RENDERING TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR BECAUSE THEY DID AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND THAT.
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT EVEN IF THERE IS A, AN ADDITIONAL, UM, PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY GIVE US AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IS THAT, CAN THAT BE PART OF THE MOTION OR IS THAT NOT NO, I WOULDN'T INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMENTS ARE THE APPLICANT IS, IS ONLINE AND HE IS HEARING YOUR COMMENTS.
WELL PERHAPS IF I CAN HEAR A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO OTHER, TO THE NEIGHBORS, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE.
[5. HPB25-0647 a.k.a. HPB 7431, 1020 Pennsylvania Avenue.]
TWO APPLICATIONS ARE COMPANION APPLICATIONS, SO I'LL READ THEM BOTH INTO THE RECORD.UM, THIS IS 10 20 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
AND AFTER THE FACT, UM, DEMOLITION OF THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING, UH, BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY A CONDITION IN THE PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ORDER.
[6. HPB24-0618, 1020 Pennsylvania Avenue.]
IS HPV 24 DASH 0 6 1 8.AGAIN, THIS IS 10 20 PENNSYLVANIA.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT.
AND ONE OR MORE WAIVERS, UM, IS IF THE APPLICANT IS EITHER IN THE AUDIENCE OR ON ZOOM.
IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
MR. CHAIR, I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT STAFF WOULD ASK THAT BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS BE CONTINUED TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING AND YOU CAN OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
WELL, CAN WE OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST AND THEN, OKAY.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD OR RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM.
I, I JUST, UH, 1750 JAMES AVENUE FROM MDPL.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE OUR FIRST SENTENCE.
WE OPPOSE THE REQUEST TO DELETE THE CONDITION LIMITING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.
UH, IT JUST SETS A VERY BAD PRECEDENT.
WE FAIL FOR OLDER ART DECO BUILDINGS.
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NOBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.WITH THAT, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE? OKAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TILL NEXT MONTH.
SECOND, IS THAT BOTH, BOTH OF THE APPLICATIONS? BOTH.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
APPLICATION WILL BE HEARD ON JULY 8TH.
[2. HPB25-0650, 1826 Collins Avenue. ]
FOR CONTINUANCE IS HPB 25, UH, 0 6 5 0.THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF A, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
UM, UH, APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, BUT STAFF IS, UH, REQUESTING THIS BE CONTINUED TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
UM, RIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THIS BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, UM, I BELIEVE TO ALLEVIATE PARKING IMPACT FEES FOR THE SHELL BORNE.
UM, AND, AND THIS ROBOTIC GARAGE NEVER FUNCTIONED PROPERLY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOME, UH, CONCESSIONS GIVEN TO THE SHELL BORNE FOR BUILDING THE PARKING FOR THIS.
AND NOW THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT TEARING IT DOWN, UM, WHERE, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE WITH THE SHELL BORNE NOW WITH THEIR HOTEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE? UH, FOR, FOR PARKING IMPACT FEES, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT USING THIS GARAGE, BUT THE GARAGE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, THE SHELL BORNE DOES NOT HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT.
SO IT MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL WAS FOR THE ROBOTIC PARKING GARAGE AND A COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY, AND, AND ANOTHER, ANOTHER ISSUE WITH, WITH THIS PROPERTY IS THE GARAGE SLASH COMMERCIAL SPACE, UM, NEVER FUNCTIONED.
UM, IT WAS A ROBOTIC PARKING GARAGE AND SINCE, UM, ITS CONSTRUCTION, IT HAS NEVER BEEN OPERATIONAL.
SO THERE IS NO ACTIVE MECHANICAL PARKING, PARKING HAPPENING ON THE SITE.
AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN, UM, THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT I'M, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN OPERATION CURRENTLY EITHER.
SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND, AND I CAN LOOK INTO THIS RAY AND, AND BRING YOU BACK SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YEAH.
BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THE PARKING WAS REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE CHILD BORN HOTEL AS A HISTORIC PROPERTY, UM, IN THE ARCHITECTURAL DISTRICT, ALL OF THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HISTORIC OR THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO 1993, UM, DOES NOT HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT.
IF THERE WERE LATER ADDITIONS MADE TO THE BUILDING THAT DID REQUIRE A PARKING REQUIREMENT, UM, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF EITHER PROVIDING THAT PARKING WITHIN 1200 FEET OF THEIR SITE OR PAYING INTO THE PARKING IMPACT FEE PROGRAM.
UM, SO I CAN LOOK INTO THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY AND SEE, UM, IF, IF THEY HAD REQUIRED PARKING AT THIS 1826 SITE, UM, IF THEY DID IT, IT NEVER FUNCTIONED.
SO IT WAS NEVER ACTUAL PARKING ANYWAYS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, YEAH, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS BUILT TO SATISFY A PARKING NEED FOR SOME BUILDING, WHETHER IT WAS A SHELL BARN OR SOMETHING ELSE, UM, THAT, THAT PROPERTY WAS NOT BUILT, UM, JUST BECAUSE, OH, LET'S HAVE A ROBOTIC GARAGE.
I THINK, UH, IT, IT HAD A, A, A REASON TO BE BUILT AND YES, IT NEVER FUNCTIONED.
AND YES, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY NEVER REPLACED BY OTHER PARKING.
BUT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TEARING THE BUILDING DOWN, UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, MORE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTENTION ABOUT TEARING THAT BUILDING DOWN AND, AND WE COULD BRING THAT, THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU AT THE JULY MEETING.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE ALL GOT, UH, WAS THE NOTIFICATION ABOUT THE WALL BETWEEN THAT AND 1800 BEING A COMMON WALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU COULD COME BACK WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
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THANK YOU.AND, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.
DEBBIE, IS THERE ANY, ANYONE ON ZOOM? RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I DO NOT SEE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION OR ANY COMMENT, FIRST OF ALL, AMONG THE BOARD, RAY AS WELL? OKAY.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
[7. HPB25-0651, 7305 Collins Avenue. ]
THIS MORNING IS HPB 25 0 6 5 1.THIS IS 73 0 5 COLLINS AVENUE.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY NEW SHADE STRUCTURE, AN OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER, AND A MURAL AND VARIANCES TO, IN A VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR AN OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER.
UM, STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT, UM, IS ONLINE.
UM, IF YOU ARE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM, SO OKAY.
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT STAFF WOULD REQUEST THIS BE MOVED TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING.
AND SEEING NO APPLICANT IN THE ROOM, THEN WE'LL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO, NO PUBLIC COMMENT THEN, UM, ANY BOARD COMMENTS? MY MY COMMENT WOULD BE, UM, HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE USE, I MEAN THEY HAVE THIS TIKI HUT THING, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MEET SOME SORT OF FIRE CODE? UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE COULD REALLY BE VOTING ON THIS.
SO IF WE DON'T KNOW BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TIME, IF WE COULD FIND THAT OUT.
YEAH, AND I, I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT THIS DOES REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL NEED TO REVIEW AND APPROVE, UM, THE STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS OCCURRED YET, BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, I'D LIKE IT TO OCCUR BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEW HAS OCCURRED.
THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THE REVIEW.
AND, AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, LET YOU KNOW, BUT YES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO LEGALIZE THE STRUCTURE.
UH, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE.
UM, DO I HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO CONTINUE? I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
73 0 5 COLLINS UNTIL NEXT MONTH.
MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST PLEASE, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT JUST RAISED THEIR HAND.
WOULD THAT BE OKAY? UM, I SEE ROSS S 25.
HI, UH, ROSS KELSON, 7 3 3 0 OCEAN TERRACE IN THE BUILDING THAT OVERLOOKS CONE CAFE.
UM, JUST THE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I DO DEFINITELY HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS, BUT I WILL WAIT TILL THE JULY MEETING.
BUT THE, THE QUESTION IS, UM, WHETHER THE, THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, UH, WOULD RESULT FROM THE, UH, EXPANDED SERVICES THAT C IS OFFERING FOR, FOR DRIVE, FOR WALKUP, UH, IN MY, I, I'VE OF COURSE WATCHED THIS AND WE ARE AFFECTED IN OUR BUILDING IS AFFECTED OUR INGRESS AND, AND, UH, EGRESS.
AND THE BUILDING IS AFFECTED BY CONE'S, TRAFFIC, AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS OUTDOOR CAFE AND PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY, UH, LOOPING AROUND IN, IN FROM THE, UH, NEW PARK AREA.
THEY'RE BACKING UP, THEY'RE LOOPING AROUND AND THEY'RE GETTING THEIR CAPITO AND THEIR, UM, THEIR COFFEE IN THE MORNING.
UH, AND IT, IT OFTEN IS, UM, BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC, UM, AND SLOWING IT DOWN WELL WITH AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF SERVICES.
HAS THE CITY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT, UH, UH, OF THE, OF THE TRAFFIC AND, AND MADE ANY ACCOMMODATIONS? WE ALSO HAVING A MAJOR, UH, A PLANNED A, UM, UH, A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, $20 MILLION BUILDING IN THE PARKING LOT THAT'S CATTY CORNER FROM THIS IS OWN CAFE.
AND, AND THAT'S GOING TO ALSO INCREASE TRAFFIC.
SO THE CONGESTION, THE CITY HAS, THE CITY LOOKED AT, UM, ANY, UH, EFFECTS OF INCREASED CONGESTION OF THIS SERVICE.
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BANAL IS, BY THE WAY, ACROSS THE STREET.SO IT, IT REALLY CREATES A LARGE PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THESE, UH, VENUES AND, AND ADDITIONAL POINTS OF, UM, OF, UM, SOURCE OF SOURCES OF TRAFFIC.
MR. CHAIR, I SEE NO OTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ROSS FOR THAT COMMENT.
AND, UM, UH, WITH THAT, ANY, WE'VE GO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ARE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A? RIGHT.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS WILL BE HEARD AT THE JULY, UM, EIGHTH MEETING.
UM, WE WILL, WE WILL PUT, WE'LL ORGANIZE THE AGENDA SO ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS WILL BE HEARD FIRST IN JULY.
[DISCUSSION ITEMS AND PROGRESS REPORTS]
WITH THAT STAFF HAS NOTHING ADDITIONAL UNLESS, UM, CAN YOU JUST TELL US ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE JULY MEETING SINCE IT'S LESS THAN 30 DAYS AWAY? YOU MIGHT HAVE, I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF DO WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF NEW APPLICATIONS AS WELL, OR IS JULY? WE, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL.IT WASN'T A, A VERY LARGE AGENDA THAT'S, WE HAVE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS, UM, IN JULY, BUT THE HOPE IS, UM, THAT WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THE APP, THE JUNE AND JULY APPLICATIONS ON JULY 8TH.
IF WE DON'T, WE COULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY SCHEDULING AN AUGUST MEETING.
UH, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT AT THE JULY MEETING.
BUT I'M, UH, CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL BE VERY EFFICIENT AND, AND BE ABLE TO CATCH UP ON ALL THESE APPLICATIONS ON IN JULY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THIS OR WE KEEP THIS? YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, THE BEST, UM, WOULD BE IF YOU CAN KEEP ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE CONTINUED TODAY, UM, AND BRING THEM BACK FOR THE JULY MEETING.
AND JUST A, JUST FOR A POINT OF INFORMATION, ARE THERE, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT TO THIS MEETING? IS THAT THE, UH, 'CAUSE THEY KNOW OTHER MEETINGS IN OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES GO VERY LONG YEAH.
FOR THE, FOR STAFF, UM, PROTOCOL AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THERE'S, IT'S NOT JUST ME HERE.
THERE'S, IT TAKES A, IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RUN THESE MEETINGS.
UM, I THINK, UH, THE DESIRE WOULD BE TO CONCLUDE THE MEETING NO LATER THAN 4:00 PM MM-HMM
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES US THE WHOLE DAY.
FEELING GOOD? WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT WORK GUYS.
JUST KEEP OUR LUNCH LECTURES,