Jul 10, 2025 Land Use and Sustainability Committee

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE PROGRAMMING OF THE WEST LOTS.

I JUST, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SARS, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS DISCUSSION ITEM ON.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SORT OF HARDCORE DEFINITE, UH, IDEA FOR THE WEST LOTS.

I WANTED TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHAT THEY HAD, UH, IN MIND.

UH, I THINK WE, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT, UM, FAIR OR, OR A COUPLE, UH, ACTIVATIONS, BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION, I WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE LONG TERM.

UM, JOHN, I, I SEE YOU'RE UP THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO CHIME IN ON, BUT IT'S MORE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND WHAT THEY, UH, HAVE IN MIND.

GREEN SPACE, SOCIAL SPACE, EVENT SPACE, AND PARKING ARE THE TOP FOUR.

AND, AND I'LL SAY THAT, UM, I, I THINK IF BACK WITH THE OLD COMMISSION, THERE WERE SOME TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE WEST LOTS, ALMOST AN EXTENSION OF THE NORTH, UH, SHORE OPEN SPACE PARK, UM, EXTENDING REC RECREATIONAL USES THERE.

AND I'VE BEEN A LONG, A LONG BELIEVER THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE LE WITH WEST LOTS NEEDS TO BE GUIDED FIRST AND FOREMOST BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA, UH, GUIDED BY, BY THE NEEDS OF, OF, OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND JOHN AND HIS TEAM ORGANIZED A, UH, COMMUNITY EVENT IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, WHERE SOME GREAT FEEDBACK WAS RECEIVED.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT, UH, THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT WE GOT, WE RECEIVED FROM THAT EVENT, AND I THINK WE GOT ALMOST, ALMOST 300 SURVEY RESULTS, 276, 276, UH, JOHN AND, UH, GUIDE US.

THEY, WHAT, WHAT DID THE PUBLIC SAY THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN THESE, IN THESE SLOTS? YEAH.

O OVERWHELMINGLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP FOUR AND SOME I COULD COMBINE WITH EACH OTHER.

GREEN SPACE, SOCIAL SPACE EVENT SPACE.

I COULD ALMOST MAKE THAT ONE BUCKET BECAUSE IT COULD MEAN A LOT OF THE SAME THING.

GREEN SPACE COULD BE EVENT SPACE AND PUBLIC SPACE PARKING IS A CONCERN.

WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE, THERE'S STILL ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE PARKS AND, AND THE, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN AS IT RELATED TO SPECIFIC RECREATION, UM, THEY'RE ABOUT FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

WHAT WE'RE, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? FITNESS EQUIPMENT LIKE GYM EQUIPMENT.

AND WE'RE COINCIDENTALLY, WE'RE WORKING ON CREATING A NORTH BEACH, MUSSEL BEACH.

SO THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK FOR A SECOND.

OH, GO AHEAD.

SO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, WHAT IS IT THAT THE PUBLIC TOLD US THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE THERE? UM,

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CAN I, IS THAT AN ORDER? YES.

COMMISSIONER BOND.

JOHN, WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE, UM, THE, UM, AGENDA, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TYPO BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THE, ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY RATED DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THE TOP FOUR ON THE, UM, ON THE MEMO, WHICH IS FOOD AND FARMER'S MARKETS WITH 36 VOTES.

UNLESS I'M READING IT TOTALLY WRONG.

I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M COMPARING MY CHART WITH WHAT'S IN THE MEMO.

IN CASE THERE WAS A TITLE WE SEE THAT GREEN SPACE HAD 80, 84 RESULTS, OR 84 VOTES.

PARKING HAD 68 VOTES.

SOCIAL SPACE HAD 49 VOTES.

AND THEN THE NEXT BIGGEST WAS FOOD WAS FOOD IN FARMER'S MARKETS.

AT, WITH 36.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, SO THAT'S THE, THE CHART IS RIGHT, THERE'S A TYPO.

THE CHART IS RIGHT, BUT THE TY TYPO IN THE MEMO.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO, YES.

UM, I HAVE THAT FOOD TRUCKS FARMER'S MARKET 36 VOTES EVENT SPACE 17.

WHICH AGAIN, COULD BE COMBINED INTO EVENTS, FOOD TRUCKS.

A LOT OF THESE WERE THE, THE, THE KIND OF THE SAME DESIRES AS PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE BIT SPECIFIC.

OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE, EVENT SPACE.

SO GREEN SPACE WAS THE HIGHEST? YES.

SO WHEN I WAS AT THAT EVENT, UM, IN TALKING TO THE PEOPLE, AND IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT, UM, ALEX, YOU WERE THERE AND, UM, YOU AND I COMMENTED ON IT, PEOPLE REALLY LIKED THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY OFFER NOW.

SO THE IDEA OF ACTIVATING THINGS IN A WAY THAT IS NOT A PERMANENT BUILT ENVIRONMENT NECESSARILY, OR IS MINIMALLY INVASIVE IN CREATING SOMETHING THAT'S BUILT.

SO MAYBE A CORNER BECOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, A GYM OR THERE'S A TRACK GOING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THREE OR FOUR LOTS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S SUPER INTERESTED IN, UM, IN MAKING IT BUILT OUT BECAUSE THAT REALLY LIMITS THE FLEXIBILITY.

UM, WAIT, AND I, AND, AND I THINK, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD MEDIUM TO BE FOUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE LOTS AND WE ASKED PEOPLE ABOUT THE LOTS.

UM, BUT I, WE, I THINK WE ALL WERE COPIED ON, ON AN EMAIL ABOUT, ABOUT THE SIDE STREETS MM-HMM .

AND I THINK THAT THOSE SIDE STREETS ALSO DO OFFER GREAT POTENTIAL.

BECAUSE IN, IN, IN A WAY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD IN ESSENCE, UH, NOT VACATE THOSE, THOSE STREETS, BUT CLOSE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO TRAFFIC AND, AND NOW USE, USE THAT SURFACE SPACE.

UH, WHETHER IT BE FOR, FOR A RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY, WE WANT TO PUT IN SOME SORT OF BASKETBALL COURTS OR, OR, OR PICKLEBALL COURT OR WORKOUT EQUIPMENT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY I POINT TO YOU COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, WHEN SAY, I GOTTA TOUCH , UH, FOR, FOR, FOR WORKOUT EQUIPMENT.

BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE AND PRESERVE IT AS GREEN SPACE AND SOCIAL SPACE AND, AND, AND EVENT SPACE.

AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO PRESERVE THE PARKING THAT WE HAVE THERE.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY, UM, MR. ATTORNEY.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT TO CLOSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAYS, UH, WITH THE INTERSECTING STREETS AND CONVERT THOSE, THOSE INTERSECTING STREETS INTO, INTO OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY WITHOUT TAKING AWAY FROM THE GREEN SPACE WE HAVE TODAY.

AND, AND TO BUILD ON THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S POSSIBLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIVE OR SIX OF THE LOTS THAT ARE BEING MINIMALLY USED AND RECONFIGURE THEM.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT TWO, THEY'RE BEING USED AS PARKING, BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT GREAT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO PUT ALL THE PARKING, UM, ON ONE LOT AND, AND USE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STREETS SO THAT WE HAVE MORE GREEN SPACE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AND, AND, UM, INSTEAD OF SAYING, WELL, THE PARKING'S THERE AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARKING'S GONNA STAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT IS KIND OF NOT GREAT LOOKING.

SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY THESE OUT OF THESE EIGHT PARCELS AND THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, SEVEN STREETS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE.

UM, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE HAVE THAT IS NOT COMMITTED TO THE KITTY CAMPUS AND THE, THE RESCUE FOLKS AND THE COUNTY.

SO HOW DO WE RECONFIGURE THAT SPACE IN A MINIMALLY, MINIMALLY INVASIVE WAY TO MAXIMIZE THE OUTPUT, PRESERVING OR POSSIBLY EXPANDING PARKING, PRESERVING AND OR EXPANDING GREEN SPACE.

THEN ALSO POSSIBLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED UP.

UM, I ALSO WANNA JUST MENTION TO MY COLLEAGUES, I WENT TO CHECK OUT THE COCONUT GROVE FARMERS MARKET, WHICH CAME VERY HIGHLY

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UM, AND SPOKE TO THE OWNER OF THAT FARMER'S MARKET AND HE IS INTERESTED ENOUGH TO COME TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPACE 'CAUSE HE LIKES THE IDEA OF HAVING ADJACENT PARKING.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LONG SHOT BECAUSE IT'S, AS HE SAID, IT'S, YOU KNOW, HARD ENOUGH PULLING TOGETHER ONE FARMER'S MARKET IN ONE LOCATION.

SO HE IS NOT SURE HE'S GOT THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO THAT.

BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO, UM, TODD ENGLISH AND HIS BUSINESS PARTNER, UM, RICH SANLI AND TALKING ABOUT DOING A FARMER'S MARKET WITH, WITH OTHER KINDS OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, ACTIVATIONS WITH THEM.

AND WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES.

UM, CINDY WAS ON THAT CALL YESTERDAY, UM, AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES, BUT THEY'RE SUPER INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.

SO, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO RETAIL UP IN THAT CORNER.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GO FIVE OR SIX BLOCKS ANYWHERE TO, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OR, OR UH, WEST TO, TO GET ANY PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET SOMETHING TO EAT OR PICK UP SOME GROCERIES.

THERE IS A FARMER'S, A TINY LITTLE FARMER'S MARKET UP IN SIDE, BUT IT'S LIKE SMALL TWO STALLS MAYBE OF FOOD AND THE REST IS SORT OF HANDYCRAFTS.

SO THERE'S NO REAL COMPETITION FROM THAT.

SO I THINK THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS A PILOT PROGRAM AT LEAST, UM, A REALLY INTERESTING AMENITY THAT WE PROVIDE.

AND THEN THAT BECOMES A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE ONCE A WEEK WITH, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE GOES ON THERE.

COMMISSIONER FAR? YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT OF TALK OF A SOCCER FIELD, RIGHT? UM, MAYBE A SOCCER FIELD ON ONE OF THE LOTS.

I THINK THAT KIND OF COMBINES SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WITH GREEN SPACE, UH, ALL IN ONE.

UH, I KNOW THAT SOCCER FIELDS ARE, THEY'RE VERY HARD TO COME COMBINE IN MIAMI BEACH AND THERE'S LONG WAITING PERIODS.

AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE AT NORTH BEACH WOULD, WOULD, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SOCCER FIELD, UH, THERE AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO NORTH BEACH TO, UM, TO USE THEIR SOCCER FIELD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN APPETITE WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT.

UM, AT, AT, AT LEAST AT THE VERY MINIMUM, I THINK SOME OF OUR GREEN, THEY'RE JUST NATURALLY OCCURRING GREEN LOTS, PERHAPS PUT A FENCE AROUND THEM SO THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR DOGS OR THEIR CHILDREN TO PLAY IN, IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PLAY CATCH.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF OPEN.

IT'S NOT REALLY USABLE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS OR YOUR DOGS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO COLLINS AVENUE AND GOD FORBID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PLAYING BALL GOES IN THE STREET, IT'S A PROBLEM.

UM, BUT THAT'S SORT OF ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT I'M THINKING.

UH, KEEP IT GREEN, BUT, UH, IF IT'S GONNA JUST STAY KIND OF HOW IT IS, AT LEAST LET'S PUT A FENCE AROUND IT, UH, AND GIVE IT PUBLIC ACCESS, OBVIOUSLY.

AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO SEE WITH, WITH MY COLLEAGUES, IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR A SOCCER FIELD THERE.

AND, AND SEEING JUST FROM THE FEEDBACK OF, OF THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES THAT RECEIVED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN THE SURVEY WAS TAKING PLACE, SOCCER ACTIVITY IS, IS, IS AMONGST THOSE.

UH, SO, SO I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE TRULY MAKE THIS A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT IS SAFE FOR FAMILIES, FOR KIDS, FOR PEOPLE, EVEN TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, YOU KNOW, AN AUTOMOBILE OR SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF CREATING SOME SORT OF PERIMETER.

UH, WE BUFFER A BUFFER.

I MEAN, WE HAVE IT ALSO, UH, ACROSS THE STREET AND NORTH SHORE OPEN SPACE PARK.

UH, WE, WE DO HAVE THAT BUFFER.

YOU GO TO FLAMINGO PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, A FENCE AROUND IT.

SO, SO IT'S, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT WE DO.

I, I REALLY LIKE THE, UM, PARKS DEPARTMENT.

TAKE A LOOK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

IF WE LOOK AT IT IN THE AGGREGATE FROM WHAT IS THERE NOW IT, VERSUS WHAT COULD BE THERE INCLUSIVE OF CLOSING THE ROADS TO TRAFFIC THE, THE SIDE STREETS TO TRAFFIC OR MAYBE LEAVING ONE IN THE MIDDLE OPEN, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU, BUT COME TO US WITH A STARTING POINT OF A PROPOSAL AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIND OUT IF WE CAN, UM, DO A REGULATION SOCCER FIELD.

I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE DON'T WANNA REPEAT, I, I AGREE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOCCER IS A HIGHLY COVETED USE, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANNA REPEAT IS THE MISTAKE OF BUILDING A SOCCER FIELD LIKE WE HAVE IN NORMANDY AISLE THAT'S TOO SMALL FOR REGULATION GAMES.

AND SO WE CANNOT FIT A REGULATION.

WE KNOW THAT NOW.

WE CAN'T, THE, THE WIDTH OF THE CITY BLOCK IS JUST NOW EVEN WITH, EVEN WITH THE VACATION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT WOULD BE THE, IT WOULD BE THE EAST, IT WOULD BE EAST, WEST WIDTHS, THE WIDTH THAT IS TOWN.

AND WHAT IF YOU VACATED IN THAT BLOCK ONLY, MAYBE, OR MAYBE ALL OF THEM.

THE, THE ALLEY THAT GOES BEHIND THE BUILDINGS BETWEEN THE PARK.

WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE OPTIONS.

BUT WE DID THAT, DID THAT EXERCISE OF A REGULATION, SOCCER FIELDS, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND IT WOULD NOT FIT.

AND I JUST WANT US TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

'CAUSE WHEN I THINK OF LIKE RIGHT NOW, THOSE SLOTS, ANYONE CAN USE THOSE SLOTS.

THE MOMENT YOU CREATE WITH, THE MOMENT YOU CREATE, YOU GET GREEN SPACE AND YOU CREATE A SOCCER FIELD, WELL NOW YOU ARE LIMITING THAT USE YEP.

TO A VERY

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SPECIFIC SEGMENT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AREAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, LIKE WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAS HAVE ASPHALT THAT WE'RE GETTING NEW AREA NOW THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY CLOSE THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND INCORPORATE IT NOW AS A RECREATIONAL USE.

AND THAT'S NEW AREA.

AND SO YOU'RE NOT, IT'S NEW AREA.

SO I'M MORE OPEN-MINDED TO MM-HMM .

WHAT WE COULD DO, WHETHER IT BE A FITNESS ACTIVITY OR WHETHER IT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A RACT, A RACKET SPORT FACILITY OR BASKETBALL COURTS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, UH, IN THE AREAS, NEW AREAS THAT WE ACQUIRE.

BUT IN A MINIMUM, THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE, FROM THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, I FEEL WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THOSE AREAS AS INCLUSIVE AS WE CAN, AS GREEN SPACES AS ACCESSIBLE TO AS MANY PEOPLE.

SO THAT IF FAMILIES WANT TO GO THERE AND PLAY CATCH, THEY HAVE THAT SPACE.

OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WANTS TO GO WITH THEIR DOG AND PLAY FETCH WITH THEIR DOG.

THEY HAVE THAT SPACE AND BE MORE INCLUSIVE RATHER, RATHER THAN EXCLUSIVE.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EIGHT LOTS, IT KIND OF LIKE MAKES SENSE.

YOU HAVE 80TH STREET THAT'S BETWEEN LOT ONE AND TWO, YOU KNOW, SEE, CAN, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, UNIFY THOSE TWO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 82ND STREET BETWEEN LOTS THREE AND FOUR, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO UNIFY THOSE TWO? YOU HAVE 84TH STREET BETWEEN LOTS FIVE AND SIX AND YOU HAVE 86TH STREET BETWEEN LOTS SEVEN AND EIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRING THAT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT YOU STILL HAVE THESE CROSS STREETS.

AT 81ST STREET, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE A CROSS STREET.

AT 83RD STREET YOU WOULD STILL HAVE A CROSS STREET AND AT 85TH STREET YOU WOULD STILL HAVE A CROSS STREET.

I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU NEED THAT MANY.

I MEAN, MAYBE HAVE TWO MAYBE.

YEAH, I, I WOULD GO DOWN TO ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS TOO IS THAT THEY DON'T LOVE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST CIRCLING AND CIRCLING LOOKING FOR PARKING.

UM, BUT IF WE CAN ADD SOME SPACES AND SORT OF RECONFIGURE THE LOTS A LITTLE BIT TO, TO, AND USE SOME OF THE GAINED SPACE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT WOULD NEGATE THE NEED FOR PEOPLE CIRCLING.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE, UM, THE PARKING LOT ON 72ND STREET, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S STILL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WALK, BUT IT WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED AND HOW MANY SPOTS? A HUNDRED AND IT'S A HUNDRED.

150.

'CAUSE WE ADDED THE SECOND LEVEL.

SO 150? NO, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

'CAUSE WE ADDED THE SECOND LEVEL.

OH, YOU'RE TALKING 70 SECONDS.

SO ANYHOW, BUT, SO THERE, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PARKING.

SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD SUGGEST NOT MORE THAN TWO STREETS BE KEPT FOR TRAFFIC.

SO JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU'RE GETTING GOOD FEEDBACK FROM US, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THE BODY.

I, IF I COULD JUST REPEAT WHAT I THINK I'VE HEARD, I'M GONNA WORK WITH, WITH TOM AND WHATEVER DEPARTMENTS ARE INVOLVED TO COME BACK AGAIN.

WITH, WITH A, WITH A FINE TUNED CONCEPT OF WHAT WE COULD DO, FOCUSING ON O OPEN, OPEN SPACE, SEEING WHAT WE COULD DO FROM A SOCCER STANDPOINT.

LEAVING SPACE FOR THINGS LIKE FOOD TRUCKS, FARMER'S MARKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND REALLY RE-IMAGINING HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER AND NOT LETTING WHERE CURBS CURRENTLY EXIST OR WHERE GRAVEL CURRENTLY EXISTS BE THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IT CAN BE.

I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THREE CONTIGUOUS LOTS THAT ARE UNENCUMBERED, THEN GREAT.

LET'S MAKE THEM REALLY, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL AND, AND GET RID OF THE GRAVEL.

AND IF WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE KIND OF SOME PARKING AND SOME OTHER THING, OR HALF PARKING AND HALF NOTHING OR WHERE THE, THE, THE LOG CABIN USED TO BE AND NOTHING NEXT TO IT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND MAYBE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE THINK ABOUT CONCENTRATING THE PARKING.

THIS COULD BE A GREAT LINEAR PARK YEAH.

FOR, FOR NORTH BEACH, BECAUSE IN ESSENCE IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COST PEOPLE, BUT SOME LOTS, MAYBE WE JUST DO NOTHING.

KEEP IT OPEN AND GREEN LIKE SEVEN AND EIGHT AND JUST PUT A FENCE AROUND IT.

UH, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.

AND THAT THAT WILL DRAW A LOT OF ATTENTION AND USE TO IT, BECAUSE IT'LL BE A LOT SAFER TO BRING YOUR KIDS OR YOUR, OR YOUR PETS MM-HMM.

TO THE AREA.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU CLOSE OFF THAT STREET AND MAKE IT ONE CONTIGUOUS PARCEL.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT TOO.

MANAGED BY, BY, BY FACILITIES BECAUSE IT'S A FORMER LOG CABIN SITE AND IT'S WHERE WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE, UM, THE UH, KITTY CAMPUS, THE KITTY CAMPUS, AND THEN WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MANAGED BY THE PARKING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE PARKING ASSETS THERE.

UM, AND, AND, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ALSO SAY A NUMBER OF THESE LOTS, UH, WERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTS ACTIVITIES CLEARLY.

UH, THEY'RE ZONED GU BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEM AS, AS FACILITIES FOR PARK USES.

AND THEN SOME OF THEM CLEARLY ARE MORE PARKING, UH, LOTS, OTHERS ARE MORE OF A FACILITIES.

I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHI WHICH ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MANAGED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS.

GOOD.

GOOD POINT.

RIGHT NOW OF THE EIGHT, WE HAVE ONE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE, UM, OVERSEE SKATE PARK, RIGHT.

OVERSEE LOT NUMBER FOUR.

YOU SEE THE SKATE PARK? THE SKATE PARK, YEAH.

THE SKATE PARK.

AND SO, AND SO TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER SARS, IF, IF LOTS NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT, WE KEEP AS GREEN SPACES FOR PUBLIC USE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BE MANAGED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OR WHAT OTHER LOTS SHOULD BE MANAGED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO LIKE SEEING OKAY.

WHICH ARE THE LOTS

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GOTCHA.

BUT LIKE, IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT WHERE, UM, THE KITTY CAMPUS IS.

WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE THE OTHER PART OF THAT AND EXPAND PARKING INTO THERE? YEAH.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU HAVE FAR LESS NEED, UM, FOR THE OTHER, THE OTHER LOTS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

UM, COME BACK TO US AND SHOW, SHOW US WHAT YOU, UM, AND, AND COMMISSIONER SCHWARZ.

AND THEN I'M GONNA GO TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, JOHN, REAL QUICK, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PRICE PER LINEAR FOOT OF OFFENSE? OH MY GOSH.

IT'S EXPENSIVE.

IT'S, I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO KNOW IF TOM, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? WE'LL FIND OUT FOR YOU.

AND THEN TOM, CHAIN LAKE AND STATE FENCING OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY DIFFERENT PRICES, BUT WE'LL BE ABOUT TOM, YOU'RE OUR, YOU'RE OUR CITY PLANNER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS? I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION HERE IS GOOD AND IF THE DIRECTION IS TO MOVE IN THE AREA, OPEN SPACE, I WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU THINK FROM AN URBAN PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS THE BEST USE OFS WEST LOTS, THE WEST.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THAT YOU CAN DO WITH THOSE WEST LOTS.

PRETEND YOU'RE COMMISSIONER AND YOU HAVE AN IDEA.

WHAT'S THAT? GIMME ACTUALLY NO, DON'T PRETEND THAT YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THEN I GUESS POLITICIZED, PRETEND YOU ARE THE URBAN PLANNER OF THE CITY, WHICH YOU ARE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO EVEN PRETEND THAT YOU ARE THE URBAN PLANNER.

I MEAN, THE, THE WAY I'VE LOOKED, ALWAYS LOOKED AT THE WEST LOTS IS, UM, I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THEM AS A STRATEGIC ASSET FOR THE CITY.

AND WHEN I SAY A STRATEGIC ASSET, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE THAN JUST OPEN SPACE IF THERE WAS THE WILL FOR THAT.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF PARK AREA DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IN NORTH SHORE, AND WE HAVE PARK AREA DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.

AND THERE MAY BE A WAY TO HAVE MORE OF A HYBRID OF USES THAT COULD SERVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, BISQUE BEACH AND NORTH SHORE AREA, THOSE ARE, UM, MEDIUM DENSITY, LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AREAS THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PLACE TO WALK TO IN TERMS OF, UM, ENTERTAINMENT USES, COMMERCIAL USES, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE WEST LOTS IN SOME WAY COULD FILL THAT VOID IN SOME WAY, THERE MAY BE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THAT CONVERSATION IS WHY THE WEST LOTS ARE TODAY IN THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE IN.

BECAUSE WHENEVER THAT CONVERSATION STARTS HISTORICALLY IS WHERE THINGS, YOU KNOW, GO SOUTH WITH THE WEST LOBBY.

WELL, GIMME SOME IDEA, GIMME SOME IDEAS.

TELL YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU SAID LIKE MORE REALLY HIGH LEVEL.

GIVE ME LIKE MEDIUM OR, OR LOW LEVEL COMMERCIAL USES.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL USE? SO THE, THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE ARE USES THAT WOULD SERVE THE, THE GREATER NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THESE COULD BE THINGS LIKE SMALLER CAFES, THEY COULD BE THINGS LIKE, UM, UH, SMALL GROCERY STORES, DRY CLEANERS, UM, PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS SUCH AS, UM, SALONS, NAIL SALONS, THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ON 72ND STREET, BUT 72ND STREET IS PRETTY FAR AWAY.

THIS WOULD BE USES LIKE THAT THAT ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF A FAIRLY LARGE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY COULD BE INTEGRATED INTO SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A MORE ATTAINABLE OR AFFORDABLE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT COULD ALSO BEGIN TO ADD BODIES TO THE STREET AND FORM A BETTER CONNECTION ACROSS HARDING AVENUE, WHICH FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE IS A LITTLE BIT, I THINK MORE TRANSIENT THAN, THAN PEOPLE WOULD LIKE.

UM, AND COULD POTENTIALLY FORM THAT BRIDGE TO THE MORE TRULY NON-TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE WEST OF UH, HARTING AVENUE.

GOT IT.

THANKS TOM.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

LARRY SCHAFER, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES.

HELLO, LARRY SCHAFER 2 3 3 80 FIRST STREET.

UH, I GL I'M GLAD THAT YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF CLOSING SOME OF THE INTERSECTING STREETS.

I SENT AN EMAIL WITH AN ANALYSIS OF EACH STREET AND THE POTENTIAL AND WHAT YOU WOULD GET FROM DOING THAT.

AND COMPLEXITIES RELATED TO EACH.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE MAJOR PARK ENTRANCES AT, AT 81ST, 85TH AND 79TH.

YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANNA CLOSE THOSE STREETS BECAUSE THEY LEAD PEOPLE RIGHT INTO THE PARK, BUT IF THERE'S NO PARK ENTRANCE, YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT CLOSING THOSE STREETS.

AND IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA TO, TO COMBINE THESE BECAUSE THEN WE GET MORE PARKING AND, AND LESS, FEWER STREETS THERE.

UH, I WANT TO, UH, REACH OUT AND OFFER TO MEET WITH JOHN REBAR AND THE REST OF THE STAFF TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER LIKE AN ITERATION OF A PLAN.

I'VE LIVED UP HERE FOR 13 YEARS, BEEN THINKING ABOUT THESE PARCELS FOR

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13 YEARS.

I KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT.

I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO CONTROL THE PROCESS OF DEFINING WHAT GOES THERE.

I JUST WANT TO OFFER THE INFORMATION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GENERATED BY THE COMMUNITY AND GET A SHORT-TERM PLAN AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING NOW AND THEN HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR LATER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU LARRY.

I HAVE ONE MORE, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.

I'M SORRY.

ALEX, CAN, MAY I HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS? OF COURSE.

UH, I ALSO SUBMITTED AN IDEA THAT WE WILL TAKE SOME MORE ANALYSIS, BUT ON THE WEEKENDS WE ARE OVERWHELMED WITH VISITORS FROM OUTSIDE OF MIAMI BEACH.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE DRIVE OVER THE CAUSEWAY AND TAKE UP MOST OF THE PARKING AND THEY ALSO TAKE UP THE PAVILIONS AND THE, AND THE BENCHES AND THE GRILLS AND EVERYTHING IN NORTH SHORE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A DOLLAR AN HOUR PARKING WHEN MAYBE WE CAN MOVE TO NON-RESIDENT PARKING BEING $20 OR SOMETHING LIKE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO CHARGE TO STAY IN A, UH, PARKING GARAGE IN SOUTH BEACH.

UM, IT WOULD MAKE BE BETTER FOR VISITORS TO DRIVE NORTH TO, UH, HAULOVER, WHERE IT'S $7 A DAY FOR PARKING AND, AND THEN IT'S A COUNTY PARK WITH COUNTY MAINTENANCE AND COUNTY DOLLARS PAYING FOR ALL THE CLEANUP FROM THESE PARTIES AND THINGS INSTEAD OF HAVING, UM, THEM ALL COME HERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JEAN OMAR HUMANEZ.

I'M A NORTH BEACH RESIDENT.

UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON TWO ITEMS TODAY, BUT THIS ONE IS ONE THAT'S BEEN ON A LOT OF NORTH BEACH RESIDENTS MINDS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

IT'S HAD A LOT OF ADVOCACY OVER THE YEARS AND I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TO A LOT OF THE NORTH SHORE AND MORE OF THE WESTLAW'S RESIDENTS.

LIKE LARRY LARRY'S A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE HE LIVES RIGHT THERE, SO HE HAS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO SAY.

UM, I, I'M JUST GONNA SAY ONE THING.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THE FENCING.

UM, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE THAT SHORT TERM OR MEDIUM TERM PLANT.

LOTS, LOTS OF TREES THERE, MAKE IT LIKE A NICE SHADED AREA FOR RESIDENTS TO HANG OUT.

UM, AS MR. MOONEY CORRECTLY SAID, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND WALK THEIR DOGS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOVELY DOG PARK THERE ALREADY.

SO I DON'T REALLY SEE, UM, THE NEED FOR FENCING AND IT'S JUST GONNA BLOCK THE VIEW.

IT'S JUST GONNA OBSTRUCT THE VIEW COMPLETELY.

AND, UM, THERE'S MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THERE, UH, OTHER THAN COMMERCIALIZING THE WEST LOTS.

SO, THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T, AND THERE'S NO PROPOSAL TO COMMERCIALIZE THE WEST.

LOTS TO THE CONTRARY.

THE IDEA IS TO KEEP IT FOR PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USE.

CAN, SINCE OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKING IS HERE, CAN WE HAVE HIM GIVE TWO SECONDS ON WHAT HE THINKS? SURE.

MR. PARKING DIRECTOR, WELCOME TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU JOIN US.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, WILL MCDONALD, DIRECTOR OF PARKING CITY, MIAMI BEACH.

UM, SO I'LL ECHO, UH, MR. SCHAFFER'S, UM, UH, SENTIMENTS REGARDING THE AVAILABILITY OF PARKING BECAUSE, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE OBVIOUSLY WANNA MAKE, UH, THE CITY OF, OF MIAMI BEACH ALREADY TAKES CARE OF THE RESIDENTS HERE BY OFFERING THE $1 AN HOUR RATE.

SO IF WE, UH, MASSAGE ANY RATES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, UH, IT WILL ONLY INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE LOTS.

ON TOP OF THAT, UM, I THINK THAT IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL PARKING ASSETS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEPLOY IN THAT AREA, THERE ARE SOME GREAT TECHNOLOGIES FOR CREATING SOME PARKING LOTS THAT ARE POROUS SURFACES INSTEAD OF NON-POROUS SURFACES.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY BEING A BARRIER ISLAND FLOODING IS A PROBLEM.

AND ANYTIME YOU TAKE A POROUS SURFACE LIKE GRASS AND YOU ASPHALT IT OR YOU CONCRETE IT, IT'S JUST GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT FLOODING PROBLEM.

SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT NEW TECHNOLOGIES OUT THERE REGARDING INTERLOCKING PAVERS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WILL WILL INCREASE THE PARKING INVENTORY BUT NOT EXACERBATE THE FLOODING PROBLEM THAT OCCURS HERE 'CAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE.

WITH THAT, UH, JOHN, UH, YOU'VE RECEIVED GOOD FEEDBACK YES, SIR.

FROM THE COMMITTEE TODAY? I DID.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN AUGUST, BUT WILL YOU BE IN A PROPER POSTURE IN SEPTEMBER TO COME BACK AND AND GIVE US WITH SOME SORT OF VISION? YES, SIR.

AN UPDATE.

PERFECT.

SO LET'S CONTINUE THE ITEM TO SEPTEMBER.

DIRECTOR, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU COLLEAGUES.

ALRIGHT, UM, MR.

[2. CONSIDER REQUIRING THE INCLUSION OF BICYCLE RIDE-SHARE STATIONS AS A CONDITION OF ELIGIBILITY FOR CURRENTLY PROPOSED AND FUTURE INCENTIVES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH]

OPTIONS AS PART OF OUR LDRS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE OFFERING INCENTIVES, UM, AND DOING OTHER, UM, APPROVALS FOR, FOR, FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IN IN THE CITY.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS CONSIDER REQUIRING THE INCLUSION OF BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATIONS AS A CONDITION OF ELIGIBILITY FOR CURRENTLY PROPOSED AND FUTURE INCENTIVES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS AN ITEM I PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO MORE FORMALLY, UH, INCORPORATE, UH, THESE, UH, BIKE SHARE, UM,

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AND SO, TOM AND NICK, IF YOU WANNA WALK US THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DRAFTED FOR US.

UH, MR. CHAIR, I CAN KICK THIS OFF.

WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED ARE TWO SEPARATE AMENDMENTS TO DIFFERENT CHAPTERS OF THE RESILIENCY CODE.

THE FIRST IS AN AMENDMENT TO, UH, CHAPTER SEVEN, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 7.1 POINT 11 REGARDING RESIDENTIAL USE INCENTIVES.

AND AS THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY RECALL, WHEN THIS SECTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION LAST YEAR, IT SET UP A TEMPLATE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USE INCENTIVES THAT MAY BE PROPOSED RECENTLY.

UH, ONE SUCH INCENTIVE WAS ADOPTED FOR LIMITED AREAS OF THE RM TWO AND RM THREE AREAS OF THE CITY IN ORDER TO PROMOTE NON-TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THERE ARE TWO OVERLAYS PENDING BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE COMMISSION FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LINCOLN ROAD.

AND EACH OF THESE AREAS IS SUBJECT TO, UH, DIFFERENT REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

UM, CONVERTING ANY EXISTING LODGING USES RECORDING A COVENANT FOR FUTURE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUIRED IS REQUIRED AND BECAUSE THESE ARE INCENTIVES THAT PEOPLE CAN VOLUNTARILY AVAIL THEMSELVES OF, THIS WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.

ONE OF THE PROPOSALS HERE WOULD BE TO ADD A REQUIREMENT FOR BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATIONS.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL USE INCENTIVES ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS, THEY WOULD PROVIDE BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATIONS AND IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF ONE BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATION THAT CONTAINS AT LEAST 15 BICYCLES PER STATION FOR EVERY 50 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PROVIDED.

AND THIS BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATION WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC USE OR WE, WE CAN ADD THAT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND FOR PUBLIC USE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

'CAUSE I THINK CURRENTLY AS, AS DRAFTED, THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T CLARIFY THAT.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IF WHAT EXACTLY? EXCUSE ME MR. CHAIR, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN BY RIDESHARE? RIDESHARE IS LIKE CITY BIKE.

IT'S LIKE FOR, THEY COULD DO CITY BIKE OR THEY COULD DO, OR THEY COULD DO THEIR OWN SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.

SO JUST TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

SO IT, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO, UH, GET, GET A, A SORT OF BUSINESS AGREEMENT WITH EITHER CITI BIKE OR ON ANY OTHER RIDESHARE SERVICE.

AND IT HAS TO BE ON THEIR PROPERTY YES.

AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OF COURSE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

THE, UM, THE NEXT AREA THAT WE HAD SUGGESTED AMENDMENT TO IS CHAPTER FIVE REGARDING ALL STREET PARKING.

AND WE WOULD PROPOSE TO AMEND SECTION 5.2 0.1 AND THESE ARE THE ALTERNATIVE PARKING INCENTIVES.

AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INCENTIVES, UM, IN THIS SECTION THAT ALLOW FOR A REDUCTION IN MINIMUM OFF STREET PARKING IF ONE OR MORE OF THESE INCENTIVES, UM, ARE, ARE, ARE MET.

AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WOULD ADD TO THIS WOULD BE BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATIONS.

AND THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF, UH, ONE BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATION WITH AT LEAST 15 BIKES PER STATION.

AND THAT COULD, UH, RE RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATION THAT IS PROVIDED NOT TO EXCEED 15% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED.

UM, THERE WOULD ALSO BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THESE BICYCLE RIDE SHARE STATIONS BE LOCATED WITHIN PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, AND THAT THE PROXIMITY OF BIKE SHARE PROGRAMS LOCATED WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR ANOTHER PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE COUNTED TOWARD THAT INCENTIVE.

AND WE CAN ADD THE LANGUAGE REGARDING OPEN TO AND AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM BEFORE, BEFORE US AND MR. CHAIR? I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IF THERE IS CONSENSUS ON THIS, WE WILL BRING IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

I DON'T, I DON'T, UM, 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE KNOW, AND LET'S SAY CITY BIKE DOESN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF ROTATING THEIR BIKES AND IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY AND THE RESIDENTS THERE ARE UPSET.

COLLEAGUES.

QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I LIKE IT.

I LIKE THE IDEA.

I THINK WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LINCOLN ROAD RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S NOT A PRIVATE COMPANY.

THE IDEA IS TO GET PEOPLE OUT, OUT OF THEIR CARS AND ONTO MICRO MOBILE, UH, MEANS OF, OF TRANSPORTATION.

BUT MORE BROADLY, WHEN PEOPLE COME SEEKING THESE, THESE TYPES OF APPROVALS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE, IT SHOULD BE JUST THE BASIC POLICY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ADVANCE THE GOALS OF MICRO MOBILITY, OF ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO YEAH, I JUST WANNA CAUTION, UM, YOU KNOW, USING,

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UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD ON, ON WHAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS WOULD BE.

UM, BY USING A PRIVATE COMPANY OR, OR FORCING A PRIVATE COMPANY TO BE ON PROPERTY.

UM, AND SEEING HOW WE CAN PROBABLY, I GUESS MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY PROBLEMS, UH, WHEN THAT DOES GET IMPLEMENTED.

SO I THINK, I THINK IT BECOMES A, UM, A DESIGN ASPECT, RIGHT? LIKE THEY UNDERSTAND WHO THE, THE VENDORS ARE.

IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BE A CITY BIKE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT THAT WAY THEIR RESIDENTS OR GUESTS CAN CONTINUE WITH OTHER BIKE STATIONS AROUND THE CITY, BUT THEY COULD DESIGN IT.

YOU KNOW, THEY DESIGN BACK OF THE HOUSE OPERATIONS, THEY DESIGN PARKING ENTRANCES, THEY LANDSCAPE THEIR LAND, THEIR, THEIR FRONT ACCESS.

SO I THINK THEY JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND CREATE A BAY WHERE THEY CAN PUT THEIR ONE OR TWO STATIONS AND YOU KNOW, HAVE ACCESS, BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST A DESIGN CONSIDERATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD MAYBE PARKING, BUT ARE THERE ANY REGULATIONS ON CITY BIKE OR RIDE SHARE STATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MET WITHIN A CERTAIN, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE CEILING, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THE, IF THERE'S A CERTAIN MINIMUM HEIGHT, THEN THE DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA HAVE TO, SO THEY HAVE, UH, WOOD MCDONALD DIRECTOR PARK IN MIAMI BEACH.

UH, THEY HAVE STATIONS RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT REALLY A MINIMUM HEIGHT.

THE UNITS ARE FIVE OR SIX FEET TALL RIGHT NOW, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE UNITS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, WELL THERE'S ALSO VISIBILITY BECAUSE SINCE THEY'RE PLACED ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR TRANSPORTATION, YOU NEED, UH, SITE ANGLES AND SO AND SO THEY DON'T TEND TO BE BULKY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BLOCK THE VISIBILITY.

AND THEY ARE GENERALLY POROUS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE RACKS ARE JUST SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO HOLD THE FRONT OF THE BIKE AND THEN THE BIKE LOCKS INTO THE RACK.

AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE A FULLY LOADED RACK, WHILE OBVIOUSLY IT DECREASES VISIBILITY, IT'S NOT LIKE HAVING A, I'LL SAY A, YOU KNOW, 15, 12 FOOT HIGH BOX TRUCK PARKED IN THE SAME PARKING SPACE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY TRANSPORTATION HAS, UH, WORKED WITH US AND, AND, UM, TO ENSURE THAT EVEN IF WE PLACE THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS, YOU STILL CREATE A BETTER SIGHT LINE.

AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THESE, SINCE THESE WOULD GENERALLY BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY ANYWAY, THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T AFFECT ANY, YOU KNOW, SIGHT LINE VISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE MAKING LEFT OR RIGHT TURNS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE INSIDE A PRIVATE BUILDING.

IT LIKE CORRECT.

IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT IT'S OPEN TO THE EXTERIOR.

MY, MY IMMEDIATELY WHEN I, WHEN I THINK OF THIS, I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE FOOT AND 10 FOOT WALKWAYS, UM, THAT ARE RIGHT OF WAYS OUT IN THE, UH, ON OUR CITY PUBLIC AREAS.

AND SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THESE WOULD JUST BE INGRAINED INTO THAT DESIGN.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT AS YOU ARE ARRIVING TO THE BUILDING ON YOUR MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE, WHATEVER THAT DEVICE MAY BE, IT'S EASILY PARABLE RIGHT ON THE EXTERIOR SOMEWHERE.

WHETHER THAT'S SIDE BACK FRONT, WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, YOU KNOW, DEEMS IT ACCEPTABLE, UM, THAT WAY BECAUSE IT GETS YOU TO AND FROM THAT BUILDING TO WHEREVER ELSE YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE FACT.

BUT WE COULD BE, RIGHT NOW THE UNITS ARE A SPECIFIC DIMENSION, BUT THAT DIMENSION IS REALLY JUST DESIGNED BY HOW MANY UNITS THEY ARE DESIGNED TO CARRY.

SO WE HAVE 15 RACKS, WE HAVE 30, UM, 30 BIKES.

SO I MEAN, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY, HOW MUCH CAPACITY WE WANT AT THAT LOCATION REALLY DEEMS HOW MUCH AN AREA WE NEED.

ARE.

ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY CITY BIKES OR PRIDE SHARE STATIONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY NOW THAT YOU KNOW OF? NOT, NOT UNDER OUR CONTRACT.

NO.

AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS YESTERDAY, YES.

AT NEIGHBORHOODS.

'CAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY, THE CITY WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY AREAS, UH, WHERE THEY COULD ADD, ESPECIALLY IN MID BEACH WHERE YOU HAVE A DENSITY OF RESIDENTS AND A LOT OF HOTELS AND ALL THAT.

AND THE CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, FINDING RIGHT OF WAY WHERE YOU COULD DO IT, WHERE THE, WHERE THE STATE IS NOT INVOLVED AND IT'S CHALLENGING.

IT'S, IT'S THE BALANCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO CREATE MORE OF THESE.

SO WE, WE MAKE MICRO MOBILITY ACCESSIBLE.

WE MAKE IT CONVENIENT BECAUSE IF IT'S CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE, PEOPLE WILL USE IT MORE.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IF WE TAKE AWAY 1, 2, 3 PARKING STALLS TO PUT THIS IN THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT CREATES A COUNTER EFFECT.

EVEN THOUGH WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OFF CARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S A CULTURE TO

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HABIT CHANGE.

THAT'S YOUR BALANCE.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UM, ON THAT TOPIC WE WERE TALKING ABOUT VERY PRELIMINARY STAGES OF ACTIVATING INDIAN BEACH PARK AND I DUNNO IF THAT CAME UP IN THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY AT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE TO PUT IT, WHICH IS NOT ON THE STREET SIDE, BUT IT'S ON THE BEACH WALK SIDE AND MIGHT BE A GREAT PLACE FOR MID BEACH.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SEEING NONE IN PERSON AND NOT IN ZOOM? UH, CAN WE SHOW THIS ITEM, UH, FORWARDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION BY ACCLIMATION? YEP.

ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR TOGETHER.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, THANK YOU COLLEAGUES.

LET'S CALL

[3. DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF CITYWIDE REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DELIVERIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.]

[4. DISCUSS HOLDING COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS WITHIN CITY LIMITS RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATING THEIR DRIVERS ABOUT THE PROHIBITION OF BLOCKING/DOUBLE PARKING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.]

OKAY, MR. CHAIR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ BOTH OF THEM INTO THE RECORD.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF CITYWIDE REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DELIVERIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS HOLDING COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS WITHIN CITY LIMITS, RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATING THEIR DRIVERS ABOUT THE PROHIBITION OF BLOCKING AND DOUBLE PARKING IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY.

AND MR. AVAN, THESE ARE YOUR ITEMS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO PRESENT YOUR ITEMS. THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, THIS HAS, UH, COME OUT OF JUST, UM, FRUSTRATION CITYWIDE FROM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES LIKE ABOUT, UM, DELIVERY VANS AND VEHICLES BLOCKING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, ESPECIALLY AT RUSH HOUR, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVE OF RUSH HOUR.

UM, AND JUST THERE BEING NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

UM, SO WE WERE TOSSING ABOUT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT, UM, EXPANDING DELIVERY HOURS OR CONSTRAINING THEM OR MAKING THEM ALL DELIVER IN ONE PLACE OR MAKING THEM PULL OFF.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY EDUCATION.

AND SO WE BASICALLY ASKED THE PARKING DEPARTMENT THAT WAS UNDER DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT TWO TIMES AGO WHEN THIS FIRST CONVERSATION STARTED HAPPENING UNOFFICIALLY, UM, TO SORT OF PUT ALL THAT INTO THE MIXING BOWL AND SEE WHERE WE CAME OUT.

SO HAVE AT IT WILL.

WANNA TELL YOU THAT PURPLE INITIATIVE, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATING THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONES IN PURPLE, DOING THE SIGNS IN PURPLE AND CROSS-REFERENCING IT, NOT ONLY DOES IT STAND OUT BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR, BUT NOW IT'S EASY FOR THE DRIVERS TO CROSS-REFERENCE THOSE SIGNS WITH THE MARKING ON THE STREET.

SO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU MIND IF I START WITH NUMBER FOUR FIRST? NO, GO FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH EASIER LIFT ON THIS ONE.

SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THE, UH, THE PARKING DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY PILOTING, UH, FREIGHT LOADING ZONES WITH A DIFFERENT COLOR AND DIFFERENT SIGN STRUCTURE.

UM, W WE ARE SEEING SOME EXTREMELY POSITIVE RESULTS PRELIMINARILY WITH, WITH INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY UTILIZING THIS, UM, UH, LESS ENFORCEMENT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT DOES BRING A LITTLE BIT, IT CATCHES PEOPLE'S EYES.

PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO ACCIDENTALLY PAY IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND SO, UH, WITH NUMBER FOUR, MY THOUGHT PROCESS VERY EASILY, SHOULD WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY WITH REBRANDING THESE ZONES, REBRANDING THE WAY THAT OUR FREIGHT LOADING OUR COMMERCIAL LOADING ZONES ARE IDENTIFIED, UM, ARE MARKED, ARE MANAGED, THEN IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR US AS A DIVISION TO CREATE A 30 MINUTE TO ONE HOUR VIDEO, UM, SHOWING WHAT THESE NEW ZONES ARE, HOW WE CAN BRING ATTENTION TO THESE.

AND THEN AS PART OF A COMPANY BUYING OUR FREIGHT LOADING OR COMMERCIAL LOADING ZONE PERMITS OR ALLEY PERMITS WITHIN THE CITY, HAVE THEM SUBMIT A LETTER OF ADAPTATION ATTESTATION, UM, STATING THAT ALL OF THEIR DRIVERS WILL WATCH THIS 30 TO ONE HOUR MINUTE VIDEO AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET A ROSTER OF WHO THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW TO DELIVER IN THE CITY.

AND THAT IS PART OF THEIR PERMIT.

AND SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO MIAMI BEACH CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO THE BEACH.

WE'LL GIVE A LINK BECAUSE ALL OF OUR FREIGHT LOADING AND COMMERCIAL LOADING ZONES ARE MARKED ON A GIS MAP THAT THEY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO.

AND SO WE CAN VERY SIMPLY MAKE IT A PART OF, HEY, IF YOU BUY A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE PERMIT WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, ALL OF YOUR DRIVERS THAT DELIVER HERE NEED TO WATCH THIS 30 MINUTES, ONE HOUR VIDEO, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE STRUCTURE PROBABLY 30 MINUTES.

'CAUSE WHAT, WHAT DO PEOPLE DO NOW? UH, THEY BUY A PERMIT AND THEN THEY VIOLATE THE PERMIT AND THEN THEY BUY WHAT? AND THEN THEY VIOLATE THE PERMIT AND THEN THEY VIOLATE BY PARKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREETS.

AS OF NOW, I DO HAVE TO TELL YOU, WILLIAM, AND I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU, UH, BECAUSE AS PART OF MY, YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR AWAY FROM 40 INITIATIVE, I'M TRYING TO GET OUT THERE EXERCISING EVERY DAY AGAIN IN THE MORNINGS, AND I'M SEEING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE WOULD SEE ON THE 100 BLOCK OF LINCOLN ROAD.

I'M, I'M SEEING THEM AMELIORATED A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING THE FREIGHT LOADING TRUCK, THE, UH, THE, THE TRUCKS THEY'RE USING THE PURPLE ZONES THAT YOU CREATED.

AND THAT WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE.

BEFORE THEY WERE JUST PARKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

NO, IT REALLY IS BETTER.

NO, I KNOW.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.

YEAH, ACTUALLY, WELL, YEAH.

SO, SO I

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AND I PERSONALLY FEEL IT IS FROM WHAT MY EXPERIENCE OF JUST SEEING REAL LIFE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND, I THINK IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU PUBLICLY FOR THEM.

'CAUSE IN A VERY SHORT TIME, YOU HAVE TAKEN SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS ON AND YOU'RE SHOWING RESULTS.

AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER AND HONESTLY, UM, OUR, OUR NUMBERS OF CITATIONS AND TOES IN THE AREA ARE SHOWING, UM, SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL RESULTS, UH, DATA WISE.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WILL ALWAYS BE DRIVEN BY DATA.

AND SO IF WE DO SOMETHING THERE IS, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING ABOUT GOING OUT AND SEEING IT, AND I'M GLAD THAT IT IS ALREADY BEING NOTICED.

UM, BUT FROM OUR END, WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS, UH, THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE WRITTEN AND THE NUMBER OF, UH, UH, PARKING, UH, UH, LEAD TOWS THAT HAVE COME OUTTA THAT AREA.

AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED.

IT ALSO HELPS, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE CREATED IN CERTAIN HOT SPOTS, WE'VE CREATED DIFFERENT, UH, ROUTE THAT IS, WE HAVE A DESIGNATED OFFICER THAT GOES OVER CERTAIN ZONES WITHIN THAT AREA.

AND SO WE HAVE AN OFFICER THAT'S GONNA BE DRIVING THROUGH THERE EVERY 15 TO 20 MINUTES.

AND SO WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A HOT SPOT, UM, AND THERE IT'S REALLY A T SHAPE THERE AND EVEN FARTHER THAN A T WITH SOME OF OUR, UM, RESIDENTS, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE SMARTER IN OUR APPROACH, PROVIDE MORE EDUCATION TO THE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING ON THE BEACH, PROVIDE MORE VISUAL IDENTIFIERS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT BE ACCUSTOMED.

UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK I'VE JOKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES, UM, HERE ON THE PODIUM AS WELL AS IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, GENERALLY A YELLOW CURB MEANS A FIRE LANE.

A YELLOW CURB MEANS A FIRE HYDRANT.

A YELLOW CURB MEANS NO PARKING.

A YELLOW CURB MEANS COMMERCIAL LOADING.

A YELLOW CURB MEANS FREIGHT LOADING.

AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IS MAKE IT MORE VISUALLY APPARENT TO INDIVIDUALS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA STATUTES ARE, OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CURB CODES, THE CURB COLORS ACTUALLY MEAN TO MAKE IT MORE APPARENT TO SAY, HEY, MAYBE I NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING AROUND.

AND, AND THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH I LOVE, IS THAT YOU'VE ALSO PROGRAMMED THE MOBILE PARKING APPS SO THAT IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PARK IN A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE IN A TIME IN WHICH THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED TO PARK IN THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONE, NOW THE APP IS TELLING THEM, HEY, HOLD UP.

YOU CAN'T PARK HERE AND WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING THEIR PAYMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT FACILITATING THEM BREAKING THE LAW, WHICH BEFORE, I MEAN IT WAS HORRIBLE.

LIKE BEFORE PEOPLE WERE PARKING ON THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONES, WE WERE TAKING THEIR MONEY FOR PARKING, THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONES AND TOWING THEM, AND THEN WE WERE TOWING THEM, WHICH WAS HORRIBLE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE, NOW YOU'RE WORKED TO FIX THAT, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT NOW THAT AREA IS AVAILABLE FOR THE DELIVERY TRUCK.

AND, AND THAT, THAT GOES BACK TO THE WHOLE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY GET THE PERMIT, THEN THEY VIOLATE THE PERMIT.

UM, IT REALLY GOES BACK TO ENSURING THAT WE KEEP THOSE AREAS OPEN.

BECAUSE ON ONE HAND, IF WE ARE, WE CAN COME DOWN REALLY HARD ON ANYBODY COMING IN AND VIOLATING THE RULES FOR FREIGHT LOADING.

BUT IF WE AREN'T GIVING THEM A REAL OPTION, THEN WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE DELIVERING TO BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK, BUT WE DON'T REALLY CARE.

WE'RE JUST GONNA BRING A HAMMER.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

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

IS THIS, THIS TIME TO THE RIGHT? IS THIS ONE OF THE, AND I, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR

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AS WE HAVE HERE TO PAY, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE FREIGHT LOADING ON ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO BE EXTREMELY STRATEGIC WHERE IT'S NOT BAIT AND SWITCH WHERE WE HAVE SOME SIGNAGE THAT OBVIOUSLY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS, THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS.

AND THEN THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE THAT HAS MAYBE THE DOUBLE ARROW.

UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT A SIGN ON EVERY SPACE WE COULD, BUT THEN IT CREATES CLUTTER ON THE, ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND IT CREATES SOME SIGN POLLUTION.

CAN WE CONSOLIDATE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I'M THINKING LIKE THE 100 BLOCK OF, OF LINCOLN ROAD, YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE THE PAY SIGN, UM, WHICH IS PURPLE, UH, FOR THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONE, BUT THEN PROBABLY 15, 20 FEET AHEAD YOU HAVE THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONE SIGN.

AND, AND WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IS THAT RIGHT BELOW THAT PARKING SIGN, YOU WOULD HAVE THE FREIGHT LOADING ZONE IN INFORMATION ALL IN ONE POLE.

AND, AND OUR WHY, WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT? WE CAN.

UM, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN.

OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS THAT WITH, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE CODE IN MIAMI BEACH SAYS THAT A SIGN CAN'T BE BELOW SEVEN FEET, UM, BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS ON THE PATHWAYS.

AND SO THEREFORE, IS THAT ONLY IN MIAMI BEACH OR IS THAT A STANDARD? WELL, I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO SPEAK ON MIAMI, MIAMI-DADE, MY APOLOGIES.

I'M BEING TOLD AS A ADE CODE.

AND SO THEREFORE OUR, OUR SIGNS, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR FREIGHT LOADING ZONE SIGNS ARE ABOUT 24 INCHES HIGH.

AND SO AT THE MINIMUM HEIGHT, THAT MEANS THAT THAT NOW PUTS THE TOP OF THAT AT NINE FEET HIGH.

AND SO THEN WE WOULD PUT OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR ZONE SIGN ABOVE THAT AND THOSE ZONE SIGNS ARE THREE FEET HIGH.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE A ZONE SIGN THAT THAT PEAKS OUT AT 12 FEET HIGH.

AND IF YOU ARE A FIVE FOOT HIGH INDIVIDUAL, YOU ARE NOW LOOKING 12 FEET INTO THE AIR.

UM, I NEED A LADDER, .

AND SO, UM, WE, WE TRY TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS A FINE BALANCE AND I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND WHEN, WHENEVER I'M OUT ON OUR, UM, ON OUR CURB SPACE, I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO LOOK AT SIGHT LINES.

AND SO, OKAY, IF I PARK HERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN I LOOK AND IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD BE PARKING HERE? NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS, AS YOU BROUGHT UP, WE'VE CREATED THE ELECTRONIC ZONES.

SO YOU CAN'T ACTIVATE YOUR PARKING.

AND WITH ONE OF OUR VENDORS, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS GENERIC, UH, LANGUAGE THAT JUST SAYS WE DO NOT ACCEPT PAYMENT, BUT THE OTHER VENDOR IS ABLE TO MAKE ZONE SPECIFIC, UH, A ZONE SPECIFIC ALERT FOR US.

AND THAT VENDOR HAS PUT, UM, A, A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE TOW AWAY.

AND SO THEREFORE, IF YOU TRY TO PAY WITH THAT VENDOR, UM, IF THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU PERK UP AND GO, I SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PAINTED A DIFFERENT COLOR, WE PUT SIGNAGE, WE GIVE YOU AN ELECTRONIC WARNING AFTER THAT YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID .

I CAN'T SAY THAT YOU CAN'T.

COMMISSIONER .

UM, GOING BACK TO THE INITIAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, UM, HOLDING COMPANIES ACCOUNTABLE, HOW, HOW DO WE MEASURE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE DOING THAT? WHAT HAPPENS? 'CAUSE I'M SURE THAT'S A JOB THAT HAS FAIR AMOUNT OF TURNOVER AT THE DRIVER LEVEL.

SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE VERIFY THAT? SO FOR THIS ONE, THIS IS REALLY A MULTIFACETED APPROACH AND IT KIND OF GOES WITH, I'M ALL IN, UH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER RECENTLY RELEASED THE I'M ALL IN, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE CITY, ONE TEAM APPROACH.

SO I REACHED OUT TO OUR PARTNERS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I REACHED OUT TO OUR PARTNERS OVER IN CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IN PARKING WE CAN ENFORCE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO GO INTO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, AT, UM, WHAT ORDINANCES CAN BE WRITTEN, UH, BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ENFORCED PROPERLY.

AND SO WHEN TALKING WITH THEM, WE LOOKED AT A MULTI-TIERED APPROACH WHERE AT FIRST WE GO TO THE BUSINESS AND WE TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT WHERE WE'RE SAYING, HEY LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED FROM YOU.

AND SO HAVING AN MOU THERE, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY ENFORCEABLE, BUT AN MOU IN PLACE TO, UM, GET COMPLIANCE, I THINK IS THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT APPROACH.

THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S REALLY UNDERSTANDING CAN WE CHANGE THE HOURS OF THE LOADING ZONE.

NOW IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS A COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL MIX, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE MM-HMM .

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FROM THE RESIDENTS.

SO WE WOULD TAKE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS OF WHERE THAT BUSINESS IS LOCATED.

UM, IS IT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANY, UM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE WITHIN THE AREA? IF IT'S NOT, HEY, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

IF IT IS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEN WE MOVE TO OUR CODE PARTNERS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHETHER IT'S WRITING A, AN ORDINANCE OR, OR PUTTING SOMETHING IN

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THE CODE THAT SAYS IN THESE HOURS, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN ENFORCE FOR DELIVERIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, ET CETERA.

BUT GOING BACK TO THE MOU YES.

UM, PEOPLE GET THEIR, UM, FREIGHT PARKING PERMITS ANNUALLY.

THEY HAVE TO RENEW THEM ANNUALLY, OR IS IT FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM OR, UH, THEY CAN, IT, IT'S EITHER ANNUALLY OR SEMI-ANNUALLY.

SO IT'S EITHER SIX MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS.

SO AT EVERY SIX OR 12 MONTHS, WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, WOULD THEY HAVE TO DO A LETTER OF ATTESTATION THAT ALL THEIR DRIVERS, THEIR NEW DRIVERS, ANYONE WHO'S DROPPED OFF THEIR REPLACEMENTS HAVE TAKEN? I LIKE, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THAT PIECE OF IT? LIKE, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE FREIGHT, LOADING ZONE TIMEFRAMES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES ARE ADHERING TO, YOU KNOW, SCOUTS ON KIND OF PROMISE OF, SO WHAT, SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN, SO RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL KIND OF, IF THEY, THE ULTIMATE DESTINATION OF THE DELIVERY IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FROM OUR ASPECT.

IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE VIOLATING THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT MAYBE WITHHOLDING, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I, AND I'LL DEFER TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT LET'S SAY WE, WE'VE ISSUED A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE PERMIT TO A COMMERCIAL COMPANY, AND WE HAVE ISSUED THEM 15 RIGHT OF WAY VIOLATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT COME AT A STEEP PRICE.

IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR US TO REASONABLY WITHHOLD REISSUING A PERMIT OR FINDING OUT WHAT LEGAL AVENUES WE HAVE? ARE WE ALLOWED TO WITHHOLD THEM? AND THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ARE RISKING THEM SAYING, YOU CAN'T DELIVER LEGALLY TO MIAMI BEACH.

WILL THAT STOP THEM? I DON'T KNOW.

UM, AND, AND ON, ON STREETS, UM, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PULL OVER, BUT THEY DO ANYHOW.

LIKE I'M THINKING AMAZON MAKING DELIVERIES ON COLLINS AVENUE OR INDIAN CREEK, UM, DURING RUSH HOUR, WHICH BLOCKS AN ENTIRE LANE OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS TELL THEM THEY CAN'T PULL INTO THE PORT COSHER.

SO WHAT DO WE, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? SO WE'VE ACTUALLY JUST, WE JUST HAD A SITUATION THAT I ARRIVED ON THE BACKEND WITH FEDEX.

AND FEDEX HAD AN EXCEEDINGLY LARGE NUMBER OF RIGHT OF WAY VIOLATIONS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, UH, PROACTIVELY WAS TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU CAN BUY FREIGHT LOADING ZONE PERMITS, BUT IN EVERY PART OF THE CITY, THERE'S NOT A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE.

UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, WE ASKED THEM TO BUY, I BELIEVE IT WAS ALLEYWAY PERMITS AS WELL.

AND SO NOW WE'VE SAID YOUR VEHICLES HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, LOAD OR UNLOAD, DELIVER IN ALLEYWAYS AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY BLOCKING IT, AS WELL AS FREIGHT LOADING ZONES.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF WHERE WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO PARK AS LONG, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE WANT TO GET THEM OFF, ALTON.

WE WANNA GET THEM OFF COLLINS.

AND SO IF WE CAN HAVE THEM PULL INTO THIS ALLEYWAY, PULL INTO A COMMERCIAL LOADING, PULL INTO A FREIGHT LOADING, AND SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS OF SAYING, LISTEN, WE KNOW THAT IN THEIR MINDS THEY'RE STOPPING FOR THREE MINUTES AND THEY'RE CRITICAL TO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN AMAZON, BETWEEN FEDEX, BETWEEN UPS.

UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT THEIR PACKAGES AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAVE TO STOP THESE ISSUES WHERE THEY'RE, THEY ARE JUST PULLING UP INTO A SIDEWALK AT, UM, COLLINS NOW.

OR NOT EVEN JUST PARKING OR JUST PARKING.

AND IT'S, THEY'RE DEFINITELY PARTS OF THE, THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE ALLEYWAYS OR PULLOVERS OF ANY KIND TO, FOR THEM TO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT.

WELL, AND I, FOR EXAMPLE, I, I LIVE ON MID BEACH, AND SO I, WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S NO ALLEYWAYS.

UM, BUT ALSO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUILDING I LIVE IN OBVIOUSLY HAS A LOADING DOCK, UM, BECAUSE MOST PLACES DO, I HAD TO GET MY MOVING TRUCK IN.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY PULLED IN.

AND I FEEL IN THAT MOMENT, AGAIN, PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S, MOST OF THOSE AREAS ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ROUND THE DONUTS ON THEIR, ON THEIR FRONT.

UM, SOME OF 'EM HAVE AWNINGS THAT OVERLAY, BUT THERE, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ANSWER IN MOST OF THE BUILDINGS.

NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE DRIVER CHOOSES TO TAKE THOSE ANSWER, A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE, HAVE LOOKED AT THESE PERMITS AS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S A LONGER CONVERSATION TO HAVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR RIGHT OF WAY, OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, FINES DO HAVE TEETH.

UM, THEY START OFF AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEY CLIMB FROM THERE.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY START OFF AT 5,000 DUE TO A NEW STATE LEGISLATION, THEY'RE ABOUT TO DROP DOWN TO A THOUSAND.

BUT THAT'S FOR THE FIRST ONE.

THEN THEY'LL CLIMB TO FIVE AND ET CETERA.

SO THEY HAVE TEETH.

UM, AND I THINK FOR US, BUT THOSE PERMITS ARE JUST TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR FLZ ZONES.

WELL, SO WE'VE EXPANDED THE DEFINITION, SO FLZ AND ALLEYWAY.

AND SO NOW WE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET OFF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES BECAUSE WHEN IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IT, UM, IT'S NOT SO IT'S TO OUR, IT'S, IT'S TO OUR BENEFIT FOR THEM TO GET THAT AT THAT FLZ.

NOT EVEN, NOT EVEN LOOKING AT IT JUST FROM A FLOW OF TRAFFIC, BUT FROM A SAFETY ASPECT.

FROM A SAFETY ASPECT, YOU KNOW,

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'CAUSE YOU KNOW, SPEED LIMIT ON, ON COLLINS IS 35, NOBODY DOES 35.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IF YOU'RE COMING RIGHT UP BEHIND, UM, UH, A FEDEX VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, YOU CREATE A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.

COMMISSIONER SWARTZ, UM, I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND ALL OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY IS TO STOP TRAFFIC, RIGHT? OR STOP TRAFFIC IN THE SENSE WHERE, STOP IT FROM, FROM BACKING UP.

UM, AND IT'S FUNNY TODAY 'CAUSE WE, I HAD A CALL WITH YOU, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

ABOUT THE SAME EXACT ISSUE, RIGHT? UM, THERE WAS A, A FREIGHT LOADING GOING ON RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF LINCOLN ROAD IN ALTON.

AND, UM, I WAS ON MY GOLF CART AND, UH, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A TRUCK MOVING THIS EQUIPMENT INTO THE GYM, INTO ANATOMY, AND IT WAS BLOCKING TRAFFIC.

AND, UH, AND THEN THERE WAS A PARKING AND OFFICER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEHIND THE LIGHT BEHIND, UH, THIS TRUCK.

AND I WAS TRYING TO FLAG HIM DOWN AND HE DIDN'T, UH, DIDN'T WANT TO LOWER HIS WINDOW, KIND OF LIKE, LOOKED LIKE HE WAS IGNORING ME.

AND THEN, UM, KEPT ON DRIVING.

I, I ASKED HIM, HEY, DID YOU NOT SEE THAT THAT TRUCK BLOCKING, UH, ALTON OKAY, A WHOLE LANE? AND HE SAID, NO, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND THEN I CALLED YOU AND I SAID, LOOK, THERE'S SOME SERIOUS ISSUES HERE WITH ACCOUNTABILITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER TOLD ME, HE, IT WAS OFFICER MORENO, HE TOLD ME HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO A CALL.

AND I SAID, WELL, DID YOU AT LEAST CALL THIS TO THE DISPATCH? AND HE SAID, NO.

AND HE GOES, WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR FROM THE, OUR, UH, THE DELIVERY TRUCK DRIVERS, WE NEED ALSO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY WITH OUR PARK PARKING OFFICERS WHERE IF THEY SEE THAT HAPPENING, THEY EITHER DISPATCH IT IN OR THEY STOP AND CORRECT THE ISSUE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I SAW TODAY AND THE ATTITUDE THAT I HAD WITH THIS ONE OFFICER, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, I CAN SEE WHY WE'RE TRYING TO WRITE LAWS THAT HELP THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.

BUT IF OUR OFFICERS ON THE FRONT LINE DON'T EVEN CARE WHERE THERE'S A BLATANT ISSUE GOING ON, AND THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE, THEN YOU AS A PARKING DIRECTOR NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO I WILL, I WILL SPEAK ON WHAT MY DIRECTION THAT'S GONNA GO OUT TO ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINE, UH, BY TOMORROW.

AND THAT OUR SUPERVISORS WILL BE BRIEFING IN THEIR ROLL CALL FOR EVERY SINGLE ROLL CALL NEXT WEEK, IS THAT WE ARE HERE TO ONE FOR COMPLIANCE AND SAFETY.

AND SO I AM, WITHOUT REGARD OF WHAT THE DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OR THE DIRECTOR OF THE TIME OR AT THE TIME, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M UNAWARE.

UM, I KNOW THAT MY PRIORITY IS GOING TO BE IF YOU ARE, IF YOU, WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT HAVE CERTAIN ZONES THAT THEY'RE STATIONED AT, AND WHEN THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO A CALL, THEY'RE GOING TO A CALL TO ADDRESS A COMPLAINT.

BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS AN OBVIOUS SAFETY VIOLATION TO TRAFFIC, UM, TO THE INDIVIDUAL, TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HERE, THE VISITORS THAT ARE HERE, STOP AND ADDRESS IT.

AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO OUR MANAGER, UH, REGARDING THE SITUATION.

UM, I MYSELF, ON THE 3RD OF JULY WAS GOING UP TO NORTH BEACH, UH, TO GO OVER SOME TRAINING WITH SOME OFFICERS ON RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE LIGHT OF 63RD GOING NORTHBOUND ON COLLINS.

THERE WAS A MOVING TRUCK IN THE RIGHT HAND OF THE ROAD IN MY PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE.

I THREW IN MY FLASHERS, PUT THIS AROUND MY NECK, AND STARTED TALKING TO THE DRIVERS AND SAID, HEY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE AN OFFICER DISPATCHED HERE IN FIVE TO 15 MINUTES.

THEY'LL BE HERE IF YOU ARE STILL HERE.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARRY EQUIPMENT WITH ME IN MY PERSON OWNED VEHICLE.

HMM.

UH, DISPATCHER OFFICERS, THE VEHICLE WAS GONE BY THE TIME THEY GOT THERE.

AND SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT IF I'M DOING THAT ON MY WAY TO A TRAINING EVENT AND MY POV, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS SHOULD BE DOING WHILE THEY'RE OUT IN THEIR GOVERNMENT VEHICLES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN TUNNEL VISION ON I'M JUST GOING TO DO X, BUT MOVING FORWARD, IF WE ARE ON THE MOVE AND WE SEE A VIOLATION, WE ARE GOING TO STOP AND ADDRESS THAT VIOLATION.

AND IF THAT VIOLATION TAKES US MORE THAN FIVE TO 10 MINUTES TO ADDRESS, WE ARE GOING TO CALL THAT INTO DISPATCH AND SAY, HEY, I WAS ON MY WAY TO X, I'M UNABLE TO GO THERE BECAUSE I'VE ENCOUNTERED THIS.

UM, SO PLEASE DISPATCH SOMEBODY ELSE TO THAT ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE MAYBE A POLICE

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CALL WHERE YOU KNOW THEY'RE GONNA LET A JAY WALKER GO TO A MORE VIOLENT ISSUE, NOTHING THAT WE DO GENERALLY IS AN EMERGENCY THAT CAN'T WAIT FIVE OR 10 MINUTES WHILE WE ADDRESS SOMETHING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US RIGHT THERE.

AND MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ADDRESS OR WE ENCOUNTER CAN BE FIXED IN FIVE TO 10 MINUTES BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, I NEED TO GO.

AND THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA GET IN THEIR VEHICLES AND THEY'RE GONNA GO.

UM, AND IF IT TAKES LONGER THAN THAT, THEN WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CALL SOMEBODY ELSE TO ADDRESS WHAT WE ARE ON OUR WAY.

BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST AND OUR TEAM IS GONNA BE AWARE, OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM IS GONNA BE AWARE, AND IT IS GOING TO BE PREACHED TO OUR OFFICERS, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE OUT IN THE FIELD AS A TEAM ADDRESSING IT.

GOOD.

AND, AND LOOK, WILL, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEW ON THE JOB AND FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ SAYS, YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK AND I WANT TO, I WANNA SEE THAT WORK.

UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT CULTURE IN THE PARKING DEPARTMENT CHANGES.

IF YOU SEE A PROBLEM, YOU ADDRESS IT IMMEDIATELY.

COMMISSIONER BOND, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

UH, SHOULD WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN, UM, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A, AN UPDATE OF, OF HOW IT'S, HOW IT'S GOING AND NEXT STEPS, IF ANY, AND DID YOU COVER WHAT YOU NEED TO ON YOUR, UM, SORRY, DID YOU COVER WHAT YOU NEEDED TO ON ITEM THREE AS WELL? YEAH.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

UH, SO FOUR, ESSENTIALLY, OH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT MANDATORY AS PART OF THE RENEWAL FOR A LETTER OF ATTESTATION FOR ALL DRIVERS DELIVERING TO MIAMI BEACH.

UM, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT ON, UM, CREATING A 30 MINUTE TRAINING VIDEO ON WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND THEN ON NUMBER THREE, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WHENEVER WE GET THESE HOT BUTTON ITEMS, UM, WITHOUT BEING VERY SPECIFIC, WE WILL WORK WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS, GET AN MOU DRAFTED, UH, THEN START FROM THERE AND SEE WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO MAYBE GO TO STEP TWO AND GO TO STEP THREE.

AND WELL, AND SOMETHING I'D WANT YOU TO CONSIDER TOO, SOMETHING THAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH TWO PARKING DIRECTORS AGO.

UM, THE, THE NOTION OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, MY TRUCK'S TOO BIG, I CAN'T FIT IN THAT SPACE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM AMAZON AND UPS AND DHL AND FEDEX WHO DELIVER IN THE TINIEST NARROWEST VILLAGES OF ITALY UP THE MOUNTAINS, RIGHT? SO, I'M SORRY IF IT'S NOT QUITE AS EFFICIENT AS YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, BUT WE ARE NOT A URBAN SPRAWL TEXAS CITY THAT WAS PLANNED 20 YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF NOOKS AND CRANNIES.

AND IF, IF WE HAVE A REPEAT VIOLATOR BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, OUR TRUCKS ARE TOO BIG, BRING IN SMALLER TRUCKS.

I, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HEARD THAT ABOUT SOMEBODY, UM, A A LINEN SERVICE TO A HOTEL A YEAR AGO OR SOMETHING DOWN IN THE ART DECO DISTRICT, AND I'M LIKE, JUST CHANGE OUT THE TRUCKS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS HERE.

YOU WANT THAT CONTRACT TO SERVICE THAT HOTEL, YOU NEED A DIFFERENT SIZE VEHICLE OR A DIFFERENT DELIVERY PLAN.

LIKE, NOT MY PROBLEM.

I I, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT AMAZON IS MOVING TO SMALLER VEHICLES, FEDEX IS MOVING, HAS MOVED TO SMALLER VEHICLES.

SO I THINK A LOT OF, UH, COMPANIES ARE GETTING THE POINT AND, AND CHANGING THE WAY THAT THEY THINK ABOUT DELIVERIES TO HIGHLY URBANIZED AREAS LIKE MIAMI BEACH.

THROUGH A MORE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABLE WAY.

SO COME BACK IN AUGUST, IN, UH, SEPTEMBER AND LET US KNOW HOW IT'S WORKING OUT AND IF THE VIDEO'S MADE, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GETTING PUSHBACK, IF YOU'RE SEEING RESULTS, LET'S, LET'S JUST GET AN UPDATE.

ABSOLUTELY, MA'AM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WERE, WERE THERE TWO OTHER, THREE OTHER ITEMS OR? WELL, IT WAS THREE AND FOUR AND WE REFERRED THEM TOGETHER.

UH, AND BEFORE WE CLOSE, UH, ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, JUST TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON WHAT, WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BAR JUST SAID YOUR SAID NAME FOR THE RECORD.

OMAR JIMENEZ.

I'M ACTUALLY A PARKVIEW ISLAND RESIDENT AND COMMISSION ONE, GROUP ONE OR COMMISSION GROUP ONE CANDIDATE.

UM, GOING A LITTLE FURTHER ON WHAT COMMISSIONER BARCHU SAID, UH, I LIVE ON PARKVIEW ISLAND AND ON PARKVIEW ISLAND WE HAVE ONE WAY STREETS THAT ARE VERY EXTREMELY NARROW.

AND SO THIS HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS WHEN WE HAVE TRUCKS DELIVERING UPS, FEDEX, AMAZON, THEY LITERALLY BLOCK THE ENTIRE ROAD.

AND SO WE CAN'T GET THROUGH.

AND YOU KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND BECAUSE YOU LIVE THERE.

UH, SO THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR US, AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE THESE, UH, COMPANIES IN THE FUTURE TO SET UP THEIR HUBS, MINI HUBS HERE, AND HAVE SMALLER, UH, VEHICLES, WHICH ARE KNOWN AS LIKE LAST MILE VEHICLES THAT THEY ALREADY USE IN NEW YORK.

SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN, UH, PEDAL, PEDAL POWERED, KIND OF LIKE BICYCLES WITH BATTERIES ON THEM.

MIAMI BEACH IS A TINY PLACE, AND WE SHOULD REALLY BE ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THESE COMPANIES TO SET UP LITTLE HUBS HERE AND PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES SO THAT THEY CAN USE THEM IN MIAMI BEACH

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ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, UH, LET'S, UH, CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER.

DIRECTOR, LET'S, UH, CALL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

BOTH THREE AND FOUR WERE CONTINUING TO SEPTEMBER, CORRECT? OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, UM, MR.

[8. DISCUSS THE NORTH BEACH WATER QUALITY AND PARK VIEW CANAL REPORT]

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS, UH, DISCUSSED THE NORTH BEACH WATER QUALITY AND PARKVIEW CANAL REPORT.

AND, UH, THANK YOU, MR. DIRECTOR.

UH, AND I'M PROUD, UH, TO HAVE THIS ITEM TODAY ON THE AGENDA AS AN UPDATE ON OPERATION CLEAN WATER, OUR CITY'S FOCUSED AND DATA-DRIVEN INITIATIVE, UH, TO URGENTLY RESTORE WATER QUALITY IN THE PARKVIEW ISLAND CANAL AND PROTECT THE, UM, OUR GREATER BISCAYNE BAY AND, UH, AND WATERWAY ECOSYSTEM.

UM, THIS IS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAFEGUARD OUR VULNERABLE WATERWAYS.

UH, THERE ARE SHORT TERM, UH, ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF OPERATION, UH, CLEANING WATER, BUT IT ALSO COMBINES, UH, STORM WATER CLEANING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UV DIS AFFECTATION TECHNOLOGY, UH, AS PART OF A PILOT PRO PROGRAM.

AND THEN OTHER LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS WITH, UH, MAJOR, UH, SEWER UPGRADES, UM, THE STORMWATER RETROFITS, UH, AND STRONGER REGIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH, AND WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

UH, I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE WE HAVE OMAR JIMENEZ HERE IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, WHO'S BEEN EMAILING US.

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE PARKVIEW ISLAND SUSTAINABLE ASSOCIATION.

UH, AND, AND OMAR, YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING, UH, FOR THIS AND REMINDING US OF, OF THE REAL IMPACTS, UH, THAT, THAT THE WATER, THAT THE WATER QUALITY AND THIS CANAL IS HAVING ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE FAMILIES OF OUR CITY.

UH, SO I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR, OUR STAFF LINDSAY, UH, FROM, FROM ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH ENFORCEMENT AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE RETROFITS.

WHERE ARE WE WITH MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, UH, AND THE ISSUE OF THE PRIVATE OUTFALLS, UH, WHICH HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE, A RECURRING ISSUE FOR US.

OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER LINDSEY PRA, DEPUTY RESILIENCE OFFICER AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY, UM, FOR UPDATES WE'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED AT THE JUNE COMMITTEE MEETING.

HOWEVER, THE ITEM WAS NOT HEARD.

UM, THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON OPERATION CLEAN WATER WAS PRESENTED AT THE MARCH 19TH LAND USE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, UM, WHICH INCLUDED A TWO HOUR PRESENTATION, INCLUDING WITH DR.

SOLO GABRIEL FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI.

UM, THE FOUR UPDATES SPECIFICALLY THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.

UM, AND I'M OF COURSE HAPPY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.

UM, THE FIRST IS REGARDING THE OPERATION CLEAN WATER COMMUNICATIONS CAMPAIGN.

THE CITY ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE TO LAUNCH THE BEGINNING OF THE INITIATIVE.

UH, WE ALSO CO-HOSTED A COMMUNITY CLEANUP WITH THE PARKVIEW ISLAND SUSTAINABLE ASSOCIATION ON MAY 19TH.

UM, WE ALSO CREATED AND DESIGNED STENCIL MARKERS.

LET'S SEE IF I AM FACING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

SO THESE ARE SOME THAT WE'VE DESIGNED AS PART OF OUR STENCILING OF THE DRAINS.

UH, WE'VE INCLUDED OPERATION CLEAN WATER DRAINS TO BAY AND DON'T BE TRASHY MESSAGING.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE FEASIBILITY OF THESE STENCILS, TESTING DIFFERENT PAINTS, UM, AND ALSO EXPLORING WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING SUCH AS QR CODES AND PLAQUES.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT NEARBY MUNICIPALITIES LIKE KIVAS GAIN AND NORTH BAY VILLAGE THAT HAVE SIMILAR, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO DRAIN TO THE SAME WATER BODY THAT WE DO.

WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF THE, OF ENFORCEMENT WITH THE SANITATION VIOLATIONS WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING, WITH THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS? UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT? OF COURSE.

SO SINCE THE LAUNCH OF OPERATION CLEAN WATER ON MARCH 19TH AND, UH, UP TO JUNE 22ND, CODE COMPLIANCE COMPLETED 534 INSPECTIONS IN THE NORTH BEACH WATERSHED.

WHICH LED TO 52 VIOLATIONS RANGING FROM ILLEGAL DUMPING, OVERFLOWING OR DETERIORATED DUMPSTERS, ALLEY LITTER, STAGNANT WATER, ET CETERA.

HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS WE HAD BE PRIOR TO THE INITIATION OF OPERATION CLEAN WATER? I WOULD DEFER TO CODE COMPLIANCE ON THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE PROACTIVE MEASURES AND THE WEEKLY WALKTHROUGHS HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD.

, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HARD AND CARDENA, UH, MR. CHAIR.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU EXACTLY, BUT, UM, UH, PROBABLY VERY LITTLE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS IN PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH ENVIRONMENTAL.

SO WE THEY SAY VERY

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LITTLE.

I'M WHAT DO, VERY LITTLE, VERY LITTLE, BECAUSE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THESE VIOLATIONS.

SO WHEN WE TEAM UP AND DO THESE, UM, VISITS OUT TO THESE LOCATIONS, THEN OF COURSE REGENERATE THE VIOLATIONS.

BUT, UH, GENERALLY WE, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE THERE LOOKING FOR THESE VIOLATIONS.

SO, SO, SO THIS IS AN UPTICK IN ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE BEFORE WE WEREN'T FOCUSED IN THIS AREA.

SO NOW YOU ARE FOCUSED AND YOU'VE DONE THESE 500 INSPECTIONS AND YOU'VE WRITTEN THESE, THESE REPORTS.

WHAT HAVE BEEN THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SANITATION VIOLATIONS? I SEE WE, WE HAD 45 SANITATION VIOLATIONS, WHICH WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SMALL AREA, THAT IS A LOT.

I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IS THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT, OVER A TWO MONTH PERIOD YOU HAD 45 SANITATION VIOLATIONS.

HAVE THESE BEEN BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE? YEAH.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS REMEDIATION AND COMPLIANCE.

UH, WHETHER IT'S BY THE VIOLATOR OR CITY ACTION.

GOING OUT AT NIGHT AND EARLY MORNINGS AS WELL, AND HAVE ENCOURAGED THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE AREA TO USE THE RECREATION CENTER, UM, FOR BATHROOM FACILITIES WHEN THEY'VE ENCOUNTERED THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I, I JUST WANT TO BE IN FOCUS.

THE, THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WERE POLLUTING OUR WATER WAS BIRD POOP.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE GENETIC MARKERS THAT WAS DETECTED AS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI STUDY.

THEY DID DETECT HUMAN AND DOG SOURCES AS WELL.

UM, BUT THEY DID DETECT OVERWHELMING BIRD SOURCES TO THE CONNECT.

RIGHT.

SO WHERE I'M GETTING AT WITH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION FOR THAT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE'S A LOT OF BIRDS APPARENTLY THAT ARE POOPING AND IT'S GOING INTO THE WATER AND, AND, AND PEOPLE CAN'T GO INTO THE WATER BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF BIRD POOP, CAT POOP, HUMAN POOP.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR THAT? WELL, THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI REPORT HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE STORM WATER WAS THE BIGGEST INFLUENCE.

SO IT PICKS UP ALL OF THESE SOURCES.

SO WE NEED TO TARGET THE STORM WATER AND ALSO WHAT'S GETTING INTO THE STORM WATER.

'CAUSE THE STORM WATER PIPES ARE JUST WHAT'S GETTING THE WATER FROM THE STREETS, PICKING UP ALL OF THOSE POLLUTANTS AND THEN, THEN LEADING TO THE CANAL.

SO TARGETING ABOVE GROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE, REPLACING THINGS THAT HAVE DEFICIENCIES, EDUCATING , FOR EXAMPLE, A BUZZWORD IS AN INJECTION.

WELL THAT'S AN OPTION.

UM, BUT THAT'S A LONG TERM THAT CORRECT.

THAT'S, AND SO WITH OPERATION CLEAN WATER, WE'RE LOOKING AT SHORT TERM.

SO SOLUTIONS.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS WHERE ARE WE WITH THE ENHANCED SANITATION OF, OF THIS AREA? UH, SO THAT, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IF WE DON'T MAINTAIN THE AREA RIGHT, ALL THAT MAKES IT INTO THE, INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND THEN MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE WATERWAY.

SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THE SANITATION? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER, OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS SINCE THE INITIATION OF OPERATION CLEAN WATER, OUR SANITATION DIVISION, UH, LOOKED AT ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES.

SO AFTER THE FIRST UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI REPORT, THEY REALLY INCREASED HAND CREW CLEANINGS ON PARKVIEW ISLAND ITSELF.

BUT WHAT THEY NOTED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS PARKVIEW ISLAND ITSELF WASN'T THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF ITEMS ENTERING THE CANAL SYSTEM.

EVERYTHING ELSE WAS COMING FROM THE 81 ACRE CATCHMENT AREA TO THE EAST OF THE CANAL AND DRAINING TOWARDS.

UM, AND SO THEY ACTUALLY RECENTLY ADAPTED THEIR STRATEGIES TO CLEAN MORE IN ALLEYWAYS WHERE THEY WERE IDENTIFYING THESE ISSUES THAT CODE COMPLIANCE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IDENTIFYING.

AND HOW, HOW MANY CLEANINGS HAVE WE HAD IN THE ALLEYWAYS? UH, DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM, FROM SANITATION? 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT, ANECDOTALLY THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, CLEANING THE ALLEYWAYS.

I WANNA KNOW HOW FREQUENTLY WERE THEY BEING CLEANED BEFORE AND HOW FREQUENTLY ARE THEY BEING CLEANED? NOW, I WOULD DEFER TO PUBLIC WORKS ON, ON THE QUESTION ON FREQUENCY, BUT WHAT ARE THEY CLEANING? YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

LIKE, ARE THEY CLEANING FECAL MATTER? THEY HAVE PICKED UP BAGS OF FECES.

UM, THEY'VE PICKED UP THINGS THAT HAVE LEAKED OUT OF DUMPSTERS.

AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF SANITATION ALSO RECENTLY REACHED OUT TO THE WASTE HAULERS TO REPLACE AGING DUMPSTERS THAT DON'T HAVE DRAINS OR HAVE BEEN LEAKING IN THOSE ALLEYS.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN THE PAST, UH, MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE FROM SANITATION SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WAS THE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE THE SANITATION WAS DOING BEFORE? AND I WANT TO KNOW ON A WEEK BY WEEK BASIS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE? I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE ON TOP OF, OF, OF THIS AREA.

SO WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE WITH, UH, WITH ON STREET, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S STREET SWEEPING MEASURES OR WHETHER IT BE THE ALLEYWAYS, WHETHER IT BE REPLACING THE TRUCKS BECAUSE NOT THE TRUCKS, THE, UM, DUMPSTERS, THE DUMPSTERS, THE DUMPSTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE LEAKING.

UM, WHETHER IT BE MAKING SURE THAT HOMELESS OUTREACH IS GOING OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEING HUMAN FECES.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE BEEN ENCOUNTERING.

THEY ARE, AND THEY ACTUALLY STARTED

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AND EVERY TIME THEY DO ENCOUNTER AN INDIVIDUAL, THEY DO OFFER THE, THE SERVICES I'M GOING TO ASK, OF EVERYTHING THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE WITH OPERATION CLEAN WATER.

AND I DON'T WANT ANECDOTAL THAT THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

I WANT TO GET AN EMAIL KNOWING WE WERE OUT THERE THIS DAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ENCOUNTERED.

THIS, THIS IS HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE WE GOT INTO, INTO SERVICES.

THIS IS THE ALLEYWAYS THAT WE CLEANED, UH, THIS WEEK DURING OPERATION CLEAN WATER.

THIS IS THE STREETS THAT WE, UH, DID THE STREET SWEEPING.

UH, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THIS STREET BECAUSE THE CARS WERE PARKED, BUT WE HOSED.

WE BROUGHT IN THE HOSES AND WE HOSE.

I WANT TO BE AS COMP, I WANT AS COMPREHENSIVE OF AN UPDATE ON A WEEKLY BASIS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INDEED ARE PRIORITIZING THIS IN A WAY SO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM WE SEE, OR THE THE LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED, THAT WE EXPECT ANY OTHER UPDATES AS, AS IT RELATES TO OPERATION CLEAN WATER.

WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH, UH, WITH THE PRIVATE OUTFALLS? AND WE'RE, WE'RE, CLEARLY WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION, BUT MIAMI-DADE COUNTY HAS A JURISDICTION.

WHERE ARE WE IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH GERM? CORRECT.

UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM MEETS REGULARLY WITH THE DERM WATER CONTROL SECTION AND HAS BROUGHT BOTH THE PRIVATE OUTFALLS AND BISKINE BEACH ELEMENTARY TO THEIR ATTENTION.

DERM ISSUED A LETTER TO BISCAYNE BEACH ELEMENTARY REQUESTING AS-BUILTS OF THEIR SYSTEM, AND ALSO AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEIR CLEANING MEASURES HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

WHERE ARE WE, UH, WITH OUR, UH, LINING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF BISCAYNE BEACH ELEMENTARY? I WILL ASK, UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WORKS.

RODNEY KNOWLES TO ADDRESS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

RODNEY KNOWLES, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

I'M SORRY, JUST WALKED IN.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION FOR ME? YEAH.

WHERE, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE, WITH THE RELINING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FOR BISQUE BEACH ELEMENTARY AS IT RELATES TO OPERATION CLEAN WATER AND THE, AND, AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO, TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY CONDITIONS OF THE PARKVIEW CANAL? YEP.

HELLO.

HI, UM, PATRICIA , UH, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE MANAGER.

WE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE SCHOOL FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

UH, WE'VE DONE EVERY ASSESSMENT THAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY, UM, DIE TEST, SMOKE TEST.

THAT'S THE LAST ONE.

WE'VE, WE'VE DONE, UH, WE'VE DONE CCTV OF THEIR LATERAL.

UM, THEY, THEY ASKED ME FOR OUR, UM, CONTRACT, OUR, OUR AGREEMENT.

I GAVE IT TO THEM A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

OUR AGREEMENT, WHICH A AGREEMENTS OUR PUSH PUT AGREEMENT THAT WE USE FOR OUR TRENCHLESS REHABILITATION.

UM, SO I'VE, I FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.

LAST WEEK I SENT THEM AN EMAIL ASKING THEM IF THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, FOUND A BETTER ONE OR SOMETHING, OR IF THEY WERE USING OURS.

AND WHERE WERE THEY AT WITH THEIR REHABILITATION OF THE LATERAL? UM, IN OUR, WHILE WE WERE DOING THE DYE TEST AND THE CCTV OF THEIR LATERAL, WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A LATERAL NUMBER TWO , UM, THAT WAS DIRECTLY UNDER IT AND KIND OF HIDING.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE RECORDS OF, IF THAT IS STILL OF HOW, WHERE, WHERE DOES, WHERE THAT LATERAL COMES FROM.

UM, IT'S VERY HARD TO, UM, TO CCTV BECAUSE IT WAS VERY COMPROMISED AS WE WERE GOING IN THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBRIS SO WE COULDN'T FOLLOW.

UM, SO IT'S COMPROMISED.

IT IT IS, IT IS.

THE ISSUE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S COMPROMISED.

IT'S NOT IN THE CONDITIONS IT SHOULD BE IN.

NO, NO.

THERE, THERE.

SO SO WHAT THE, WHAT THE, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SO HOW DO WE FIX IT? SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO LINE IT FIRST, HAVE THEM GIVE US A GOOD, UM, FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS, WHERE THEY'RE ONE OF THE LATERAL NUMBER TWO, WHERE IT GOES IF IT'S STILL LIVE AND THEY'RE STILL CONNECTED.

IF NOT, WE CAN, UH, UH, CAP AND SEAL.

I'VE REQUESTED THEM IF WE NEED TO CAP AND SEAL THAT LATERAL, I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME SOUNDS SERIOUS, HUH? WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME SOUNDS SERIOUS.

WELL, IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHERE IT IS IN, IN THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE CTV IT, WE FOLLOWED IT AND WE SAID, OKAY, AND WE HAVE IT IN OUR GIS WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REHABILITATE THAT OTHER ONE.

IT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE GOOD AS BILLS FROM THEM TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM.

WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.

WE, WE, WE, WE, WE FIGURED IT OUT WHERE,

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WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S STILL LIVE OR NOT.

SO, UM, WHAT IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOING TO ASSIST US WITH US? WITH US? BECAUSE I MEAN, WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

RIGHT.

UM, WE, MR. MANAGER SYSTEM, I NEED, I NEED THIS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE WILL, WE WILL.

I, I WILL PERSONALLY BE INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE WITH BISCAYNE ELEMENTARY.

UM, I APOLOGIZE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS FURTHER ADVANCED.

UH, SO I, I WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS.

WELL, THIS IS WHY I NEED A WEEKLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW.

I NEED A WEEKLY UPDATE ON THIS.

THIS IS A PRIORITY WE CREATED, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS WE CREATED OPERATION CLEAN WATER, AND THE OPERATION, THE COMMUNICATIONS PART IS WONDERFUL.

THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS PART OF OPERATION CLEAN WATER, MAKING SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE SOURCE OF THIS POLLUTANT.

AND SO, I I'M NOT VERY SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW.

YAY.

AND BISCAYNE BEACH ELEMENTARY.

I'M, I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, I NEVER HAD HER NAME RIGHT.

GABRIELLE SOTO.

OH, DR.

SOLO GABRIEL, SAY IT AGAIN.

DR.

SOLO.

GABRIEL CLOSE.

SO CLOSE, BUT SO WRONG.

UM, BUT SHE, WHEN SHE DID HER MATH THAT WE GOT PRESENTED TO US MONTHS AGO, SHE IDENTIFIED ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT HOTSPOTS WAS COMING FROM THE GRASSY FIELDS AT, AT GROUND.

BISCAYNE ELEMENTARY.

THAT'S TRUE.

AND WE SUBSEQUENTLY, UM, HAD A PROJECT THAT WE APPROVED ON THE COMMISSION TO DO A JOINT EFFORT, RE GENERATION, UM, AN UPGRADE OF THEIR PARK, THEIR PLAYGROUND FACILITIES, SO THAT IT COULD BE A PUBLIC AMENITY.

AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO LINE.

I MEAN, FORGET LINING, REPLACE THEM IF WE NEED TO.

I MEAN, IT'S, WE ARE FINDING THINGS THAT ARE NEW THAT MAY STILL BE ACTIVE, BUT COMPLETELY CORRODED.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THERE.

AND SO I THOUGHT ALL OF THAT WAS MOVING.

THAT WAS MONTHS AGO.

AND SO TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN GETTING THE PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEND STUFF OVER AND THEY DON'T RESPOND FOREVER.

AND THAT IT'S NOT A YOU THING.

IT'S, I'M SAYING LIKE, THIS IS LIKE LANGUISHING.

AND IF WE KNOW IT'D BE ONE THING, IF WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM, BUT WE ALSO THINK SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT BE, WE KNOW THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

WE ALSO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE CATCHMENT AREA, SORT OF THE PARKING LOT BEHIND CVS AND AND WALGREENS IN THAT AREA IS A DISASTER.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE NOW, WE'RE SO FAR AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT HOTSPOTS AND WE NEED TO BE MOVING HEAVEN AND EARTH AND RATTLING CAGES TO GET IT FIXED BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE.

AND TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ COM COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BOND, MY APOLOGIES.

I'M NOT SENSING THE URGENCY.

AND THAT IS FRUSTRATING ME INCREDIBLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE CREATED OPERATION CLEAN WATER TO CREATE THE URGENCY IN THE CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT WE WANT TO RESTORE THE WATER QUALITY IN THE PARKVIEW ISLAND CANAL.

AND RIGHT NOW IT'S, AND IT'S NOT ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY'S FAULT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE, YOU GUYS ARE DOING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF THE HOTSPOT THAT WE KNOW THAT EXISTS AT THIS SCHOOL WHERE WE HAVE SAID, WE DO NOT CARE.

IT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION.

IT IS NOT OUR PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO GO IN AND ADDRESS IT BECAUSE IT IS OUR WATER QUALITY THAT'S BEING AFFECTED.

IT IS OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED.

WE WANNA PRIORITIZE IT.

I'M SORRY.

I AM NOT FEELING THE URGENCY.

AND THAT, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S BOTHERING ME.

THE SPEC, WHICH I MEAN, IN THIS AREA IT'S HORRIBLE.

COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, SO YOU FOUND YOU'VE PUBLIC WORKS, RODNEY? YES.

YOU GUYS FOUND A LATERAL THAT WAS JUST UNACCOUNTED FOR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

HOW MANY MORE DO YOU THINK OF THESE UNACCOUNTED LATERALS? ARE THERE THINK I THINK THIS IS IT.

I YOU THINK WHAT? I THINK THAT IS IT THAT LATERAL NUMBER, NUMBER THAT WE'RE CALLING IN NU NUMBER TWO.

UM, IS IT, IT'S NOT A, A, UH, AND SO IT'S, YOU SAID IT'S COMPROMISED OR DAMAGED? YEAH, THE, THERE, THE, THE MATERIAL THAT, THAT THE SCHOOL USES THAT IS IN THEIR SPECS IS CAST IRON.

IT'S VERY OLD.

AND THEY'VE KEPT THE SPEC AND THEY KEEP, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, PLASTIC WAS ALREADY PLASTIC LATERALS WERE EXISTED AT THAT TIME.

THEY KEPT ON HAVING

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YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, YOU RUN NEXT TO THE OCEAN, SO THEY, THEY ARE COMPROMISED.

AND THIS IS A STORM WATER LATERAL? NO, LATERAL.

A SEWER LATERAL SEWER LATERAL, OKAY.

SEWER LATERAL.

SO FAST STORM WATER SOER LATERAL COMING OUT OF THE SPACE.

SO, SO JUST TO, JUST SO EVERYONE'S LISTENING KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS THE, THE, THE FIELD BEHIND BISQUE BEACH ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS LITERALLY ADJACENT TO CRAB ALLEY, TO THE TATUM WATERWAY, TO THE, THE CANAL AROUND PARK ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATER.

IT'S, IT LITERALLY, IT'S FEET AWAY.

SO I, I DO NOT KNOW HOW, HOW, HOW THERE IS NOT A FIRE ALARM.

CAN I, THE URGENCY OF A FIRE ALARM GOING OFF WITH THIS.

LET ME, LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHTS.

UH, YEAH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER, WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THIS? THIS, THIS SECOND? THIS.

EXCUSE ME.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU, OH, THIS, WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THIS UNKNOWN LATERAL? SO WE, THE LAST TWO TESTS THAT WE DID, SO WE DID A A, WE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TESTS AND I, I THINK WE, WE SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ OF ALL THE, UM, TESTING AND ASSESSMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AREA, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SCHOOL.

UM, THE SMOKE TESTING, THE DYE TEST IS WHAT, WHAT ALERTED US.

'CAUSE THEN WE COULD SEE, UM, WE, SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, WE PUT THE DYE IN THE CLEAN OUTS IN THE LATERAL INSIDE AND WE, WE WOULD SEE IF IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE STORM.

UM, IT DIDN'T, WE WAS TRYING TO, WHEN THAT DONE, WE SEE CROSS CONNECTION.

WHEN WAS THAT DONE? UM, THAT WAS A MONTH AGO.

UH, MAYBE LIKE A MONTH AGO.

AND THEN WE, WE DECIDED TO DO THE LAST, UM, ASSESSMENT BE BEFORE WE DO REHABILITATION AND EFFORTS TO FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE OF WHERE THE SECOND LATERAL IS.

AND SO WE CAN REHABILITATE.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE DO ASSESSMENT FIRST.

WE TRY TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN, AND THEN WE DO THE ASSESSMENT.

SO WE HAVE FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM, UM, AND WE'RE WAITING ON TO SEE IF, IF WE CAN CAP AND SEAL THAT SECOND LATERAL AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.

IF THEY HAVE A BETTER, UH, CONTRACT THAN OURS, THEN WE CAN USE OR THEY CAN USE THEIRS OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER WE WANNA DO IT.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVET WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THIS AREA AND, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, WITH OUR, BUT THIS IS JUST, JUST WITH OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.

JUST, THIS IS JUST NEWS TO ME.

I MEAN, AND I SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SECOND LATERAL FOUND.

SO THERE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME, SOME.

AND, AND COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ ASKED FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND WE, WE LISTED, I HAVE A WHOLE EMAIL HERE ON, ON ALL THE INFORMA, ON ALL THE ASSESSMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS AREA AND IN THE SCHOOL AND OUR NEXT STEPS.

AND, UM, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE DONE NOW, WE'VE BEEN, LAST WEEK WE HAD THE LAST ASSESSMENT.

WE'RE READY TO REHABILITATE.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE CAP OFF THIS LATERAL FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN RETEST? WE, WE DON'T WANNA CAP, UM, CAP AND SEAL A LATERAL THAT MAYBE SEAL LIVE AND IT'S NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND SERVES IT.

IT MIGHT, YOU DON'T KNOW IT, IT MIGHT SERVE ONE, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.

ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT'S FARTHER AWAY.

'CAUSE IT'S HAD A LOWER ELEVATION.

BUT WE, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE THAT CALL.

WE DON'T WANNA CAP AND SEAL IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S STILL GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF IT OH, IF IT'S COMPROMISED, IT'S STILL SEEPING.

YOU, YOU HAVE A CAMERA THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH.

AND WE, WE TRIED, BUT IT WAS, IT THERE, IT WAS COMPROMISED, SO WE COULDN'T KEEP GOING.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT'S JUST COLLAPSED AND YOU CAN'T PUT IT AT ONE POINT? YEAH, IT'S FULL OF DEBRIS.

SO IT MIGHT BE PUSHING DEBRIS FROM, FROM FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S NOT, I, SO I, I, WE COULDN'T FURTHER RODNEY, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA PUSH THIS OFF ON ANYBODY ELSE.

UM, YOU'RE HEARING IT FROM ME RIGHT NOW.

PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA PUT OUR WEIGHT BEHIND THIS.

UM, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

UM, IF WE ARE FINDING AN ISSUE HERE THAT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE ON, UM, MAYBE BECAUSE I, WE'RE GONNA, AND WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE WAY THAT WE, AND CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE COMMUNICATING BECAUSE ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS AND STUFF.

'CAUSE I'M HOPING THIS IS THE ISSUE, RIGHT? I'M, I'M HOPING THIS, THIS ONE THING IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE, THE, THE PARKVIEW CANAL.

JUST BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY BUY THE FACT THAT THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF BIRD POOP BECAUSE THERE'S BIRDS EVERYWHERE IN MIAMI BEACH, AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM EVERYWHERE IN MIAMI BEACH.

THERE'S BIRDS POOPING ALL THE TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOT MORE IN PARK VIEW THAN IT IS IN SOUTH BEACH.

BUT I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS COULD BE THE ISSUE.

THE SCHOOL BOARD IS, IS A POLITICAL BODY.

AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT I WASN'T REALLY LIKE, LIKE, LIKE THE CHERRY SAID, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN ALARM GONE OFF.

I, I DIDN'T HEAR AN ALARM.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT LET'S, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE INITIATIVE.

I MEAN, WE, WE CREATED THIS TO FIND SOLUTIONS.

AND

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IF THEY'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH, IF THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING, WE NEED TO KNOW.

WE NEED TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN, WE, IF I NEED TO CALL THE CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AGAIN, I WILL.

IF, IF WE NEED TO CALL, UH, OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, WE WILL.

UH, BUT, BUT, BUT THIS IS PRIORITY.

IT'S SUCH A BIG PRIORITY.

IT'S THE REASON WHY WE CREATED THIS OPERATION CLEAN WATER.

IT WAS TO CREATE A SENSE OF URGENCY.

AND URGENCY IS NOT WAITING FOR BUREAUCRACY, FOR PROCUREMENT FOR A NEW CONTRACTOR.

IT IS LIKE THE EMERGENCY IS TO GO IN AND GET IT DONE.

BECAUSE THIS IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

IT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE NEED TO RESTORE THIS WATER QUALITY LEVEL.

WE NEED URGENT INTERVENTION, UH, BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT DOING IT AND THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TIMELY ENOUGH TO YOU GUYS, THEN WE, AS THE ELECTED LEADERSHIP NEED TO BE TOLD SO THAT WE CAN MOBILIZE OUR POLITICAL RESOURCES TO GET IT DONE.

AND IF I MIGHT ADD YES, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DID WE, YOU KNOW, CREATE THIS AND PRIORITIZE IT, BUT IT'S ALSO FUNDED LIKE THERE'S MONEY THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO BE SPENT TO DO ALL THESE THINGS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE DAYS THAT'S NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

AND, AND AS ALEX SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO GET THINGS MOVING AGAIN.

UM, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, NOT JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED DIRECTLY ADJACENT.

BUT WE HAD A TON OF TOURISTS WHO PADDLE AND KAYAK ALL OVER THE PLACE AND GO, IT'S LOVELY.

IT'S LIKE BEING ON A LAZY RIVER.

I MEAN, I USED TO SIT ON MY DECK AND WATCH PEOPLE SORT OF PUTTING THEIR PADDLE UP ACROSS THEIR KNEES AND JUST KIND OF DRIFTING AROUND THE ISLAND BECAUSE IT'S THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS COOL LITTLE PLACE TO DO IT.

AND NOW, IN ADDITION TO TOURISTS, WE'VE GOT NATIONAL HEADLINES.

ONE OF THE MOST POLLUTED BEACHES IS IN MIAMI BEACH.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE.

IT'S NOT A BEACH.

BUT NONETHELESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK TO REHABILITATE OUR, OUR REPUTATION AND GET PEOPLE COMING BACK TO MIAMI BEACH.

THE LAST THING WE NEED IS TO SAY, OH YEAH.

ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, COME BACK TO MIAMI BEACH, BUT DON'T GO SWIMMING.

'CAUSE THE WATER'S TOXIC, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED NEXT FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM? I NEED TO, WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED NEXT FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LEVEL OF, OF SPEED THAT WE SHOULD? YOU'RE THE DIRECTOR.

I, YOU ARE THE DIRECTOR.

I NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU.

WITH THE CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I NEED TO REGROUP INTERNALLY WITH TEAM TO FIND OUT WHO THE POINTS OF CONTACT ARE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND JUST PUT IT IN, IN RIGHT ON THEIR DESK AND, AND ASK FOR SOME ACTION AND DEMAND IT.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF I CAN'T GET A CLEAR OUTLINE AS TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO OR WHAT THE PLAN OF ACTION IS, THEN WHEREVER WE ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO INTERVENE, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO AND PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT.

CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTEE FRONT.

WE NEED TO GO WEEKLY UPDATES.

I, I THOUGHT THAT HAVING THIS MONTHLY DISCUSSION ON THE COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF URGENCY ON THIS SO THAT WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, PROGRESS REPORTS.

I'M GETTING REPORTS, BUT I'M NOT GETTING THE PROGRESS.

AND SO, AND SO, AND SO MY EXPECTATION IS GOING TO BE I NEED TO GET, THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO GET WEEKLY REPORTS ON, I, I DON'T WANNA MICROMANAGE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IN THIS CASE, IF, IF WE DON'T MICROMANAGE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THE RESULTS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING FROM THIS OPERATION.

AND I AM NOT CREATING AN OPERATION CLEAN WATER TO BE EMBARRASSED AT THE END OF IT.

WE NEED TO RESTORE THE WATER QUALITY.

AND IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS ELEVATED LEVELS OF ENTEROCOCCI IN THIS, IN THIS WATERWAY.

AND THAT FOR YEARS PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, TO, TO TOUCH THIS WATER.

AND THAT HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A DENT ON IT AND THAT THERE'S THESE ISSUES THAT WE CAN'T GET A SOLUTION TO.

SO WE NEED TO GET THE MUD, THE, THE, THE WEEKLY UPDATES ON THIS ISSUE WITH, WITH THE LATERALS.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE, I NEED TO KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW WHICH ALLEYWAYS THEY'RE CLEANING, WHAT DAYS ARE GOING OUT AND DOING AND DOING THE SANITATION, STREET SWEEPING, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEING DONE.

OTHERWISE, THE PRESSURE'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THE RESULTS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT YOU LET US ALL KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

LIKE, CLEARLY NONE OF US SITTING UP HERE, NONE OF US ARE HAPPY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU GUYS COME TO US AND SAY, WE HAVE A ROADBLOCK, THEN WE CAN ALL TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER.

RIGHT.

IF YOU CAN'T GET SOMEBODY TO RETURN A PHONE CALL, MAYBE ONE OF US CAN OR KNOWS SOMEBODY WHO CAN.

AND, BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A ROADBLOCK, THEN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER MONTH PASSES AND WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY PROGRESS.

AND I, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK IN AUGUST WITH WEEKLY OR IN SEPTEMBER WITH WEEKLY UPDATES IS NOT, I, I WANNA GET THEM STARTING IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M VERY CONCERNED

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I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

DEPARTMENTS NEED STABILITY AND HAVING A CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR OPERATION, THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THING, WATER QUALITY.

TO ME, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE ARE IN THIS POINT RIGHT NOW IN OUR, IN, IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

WITH THE CITY MANAGER WATCHING.

ALRIGHT, I WOULD ECHO THAT.

LET'S GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

OH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OMAR? YES.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ITEM THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR.

UM, I TRY AND BE AS COLLABORATIVE AS POSSIBLE.

UH, FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD AT THIS ITEM.

AND I JUST, MY HEART'S BREAKING RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY EGREGIOUS TO, TO BE IN THIS SITUATION.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK DR.

SOLO GABRIEL AND HER TEAM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI FOR THIS URGENT AND SOBERING PHASE TWO REPORT.

THE FINDINGS ARE MORE THAN ALARMING.

THE PURVIEW CAN NOW REMAIN SEVERELY TOXIC WITH ENTEROCOCCAL LEVELS, ESPECIALLY NEAR BISQUE AND BEACH ELEMENTARY REACHING 240,000 MPN PER 100 MILLILITERS.

THAT'S 3,428 TIMES OVER THE SAFE LIMIT FOR RECREATION.

THIS ISN'T JUST ONE OF THE MOST POLLUTED WATERWAYS IN MIAMI BEACH.

IT'S LITERALLY ONE OF THE MOST POLLUTED WATERWAYS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

AND IT HASN'T BEEN FOR THE FIRST TIME EITHER.

WE WERE NAMED ONE OF THE DIRTIEST BEACHES IN AMERICA TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

SO THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND AS YOU CORRECTLY SAID, MS. BAT, THIS IS A NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT FOR OUR RESORT CITY.

IT'S A LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, I'VE PERSONALLY SUFFERED FIVE SERIOUS SKIN INFECTIONS LINKED TO THE EXPOSURE IN THIS CANAL.

AND I REALLY HAVE TO ASK AT THIS POINT, HOW MANY OTHERS, CHILDREN, NEIGHBORS, VISITORS, HOW MANY HAVE SUFFERED IN SILENCE WITHOUT KNOWING THE CAUSE.

THIS CITY MADE COMMENDABLE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES ON PARKVIEW, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING AN IMPROVEMENT THERE.

BUT THE DATA PROVES THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH.

WE REALLY NEED TO ACT TO ADDRESS THIS HOTSPOT AT BISCAYNE BEACH ELEMENTARY.

THAT IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN THE ORIGINAL PARKVIEW KAYAK LAUNCH.

THERE'S SO MUCH THAT I HAVE TO SAY HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY ALL BEING SAID.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER MAIN THINGS THAT I'M HERE TO SAY TODAY IS THAT MEANWHILE, OUR CITY'S OUTDATED INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO BEING USED TO CARRY SEWAGE FROM BAY HARBOR ISLANDS, UM, BA HARBOR SURFSIDE, AND SOON TO BE INDIAN CREEK ISLAND.

AND WE RECEIVE ZERO COMPENSATION FOR IT.

WHAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS ABSOLUTELY CRUMBLING AS WE'VE HEARD TODAY.

AND WHO IS HOLDING THE BAG AT THE END? THE MIAMI BEACH TAXPAYER WITH INCREASED LEVIES FEES ON WATER AND SEWER.

AND WE'RE REALLY JUST AT OUR LIMIT ALREADY.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T KEEP GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

SO I'M, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GUYS WENT ALL IN ON IT TODAY.

AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THIS IS NOT JUST DURING THIS MEETING, BUT THAT WE WILL GET SOME ACTION BEFORE THE KIDS GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

BECAUSE I HAVE THE, THE TEACHERS FROM BISCAYNE BEACH ELEMENTARY REACHING OUT TO ME.

ONE OF THE TEACHERS, MS. GARCIA, WAS AT THE 4TH OF JULY PARTY THAT I ATTENDED ON PARKVIEW ISLAND, AND SHE PLEADED WITH ME.

SHE SAID, PLEASE, IT'S IN THE GROUNDWATER.

HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE KIDS AREN'T GETTING SICK FROM IT? NOW WHEN THEY GO BACK TO SCHOOL, PLEASE GUYS, LET'S REALLY WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IT.

BEACH, THE HIGHLY PAID EMPLOYEES, WHEN ARE WE GONNA SEE MEASURABLE RESULTS? LIKE DIFFERENCES IN THE LEVEL OF ENTERIC CAUCUS? WOULD YOU BET YOUR JOB ON THIS PLAN IF IN SIX MONTHS WE DIDN'T GET BETTER? DO YOU THINK YOU STILL DESERVE THAT JOB? AND THE POLITICIANS ON THE DAIS? HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS TO YOU? WE'RE DROWNING IN POOP WATER.

THANK YOU, OMAR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, LARRY SCHAEFER, WELCOME.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

LARRY SCHAEFER 2 3 3 80 FIRST STREET.

THIS IS A DISGUSTING CRISIS.

I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN THIS PLAN OR THIS TEAM.

THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR RESIGNED.

MAYBE HE'S SMART TO DO SO.

TO LEAVE US WITH THIS PROBLEM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE UNDERGROUND SEWER PIPES ARE LEAKING INTO THE STORM PIPES THAT ALL HAVE HOLES.

SO IT'S AN UNDERGROUND PROBLEM.

IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE BISCAY AQUIFER.

IT'S NOT JUST, YOU CAN'T JUST GO STREET SWEEPING AND PICKING UP BAGS OF POOP TO SOLVE THIS.

YOU'RE WORKING ON THE SURFACE.

THE PROBLEM MIGHT BE UNDERGROUND.

PUBLIC WORKS JUST FOUND A LATERAL AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, ALL THIS MONEY SPENT, THE SCHOOL IS LEAKING CRAP.

AND IT'S OUR PROBLEM.

THAT'S THE SCHOOL'S PROBLEM.

SHOULDN'T MR. CITY ATTORNEY FILE A LEGAL CLAIM RIGHT NOW? AND WHY ARE WE GIVING MILLIONS IN N-B-C-R-A MONEY TO BUILD THIS SCHOOL A PLAYGROUND WHILE THEY POOP ON US? AND LOOK AT THE TEST RESULTS FOR THE 72ND STREET GARAGE.

ARE THERE BROKEN SEWER OR STORM PIPES UNDER THAT LOCATION? ARE WE EVER GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD THERE? PVI JUST CATCHES THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS THROUGHOUT NORTH

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WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST PVI.

NOW WE KNOW IT'S ALL THROUGHOUT NORTH BEACH.

HAVE YOU TOLD THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS AREA ARE THERE DOGS DRINKING POLLUTED WATER OUT OF THE PUDDLES? TOMORROW DURING THE BUDGET MEETING, YOU'LL TELL US WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.

YOU'LL EITHER VOTE FOR MONEY TO CLEAN UP THIS POOP MESS, OR YOU'LL VOTE FOR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

YOU'LL EITHER VOTE FOR DISCRETIONARY GRANTS TO NONPROFITS OR, OR YOU COULD FIX OUR PROFIT ALL AROUND US.

IF THIS DOESN'T GET FIXED, WHY DON'T WE BRING IN COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, ASSETS, RESOURCES, ASK THESE POLITICIANS TO HELP US AND SAY WE CAN'T DO IT ON OUR OWN.

I HAVE HAD TWO EAR INFECTIONS FROM SWIMMING AND POLLUTED OCEAN WATERS AS WELL.

I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY DAMAGED BY THIS.

PLEASE FIX IT.

THANK YOU LARRY.

I SEE WE HAVE SHARON WITH HER HAND RAISED.

SHARON, WELCOME.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

HI, SHARON WEISS.

2 3 3 80 FIRST STREET.

UH, I ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF OMAR AND LARRY.

UH, THIS IS DISGUSTING.

I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.

NOT ONLY IS IT OUR WATERWAYS, IT'S THE GROUNDWATER THAT'S COMING UP.

PEOPLE WALK AROUND IN FLIPFLOPS ALL THE TIME.

THEY WALK THROUGH PUDDLES.

WHAT KIND OF BACTERIA AND GROSS THINGS ARE BEING ABSORBED? I MEAN, THIS IS ALL WE HAVE IS THE WATER.

IT'S MIAMI BEACH.

LIKE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BEACH, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST LIVE IN MIAMI.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THE BUDGET IS COMING UP, UH, TOMORROW, AND THERE'S A BUDGET MEETING.

YOU'RE REDOING THE BUDGET.

THERE SEEMS TO BE PLENTY OF MONEY FOR WHATEVER THE POLICE WANT.

IF NOBODY COMES HERE, WE DON'T NEED SO MANY POLICE BECAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA WANNA COME HERE TO SWIM IN OUR OCEANS BECAUSE THEY'RE POLLUTED AND NO ONE'S GONNA WANNA LIVE HERE.

I MEAN, IT IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.

I AM DISGUSTED.

WE HAVE MONEY FOR EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE BORING STUFF, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE IMPORTANT STUFF BECAUSE LIKE OMAR, LIKE LARRY, I HAVE GOTTEN SICK FROM SWIMMING IN THE WATER WITH NOTHING POSTED.

NOTHING SAYING DON'T TOUCH THE WATER.

BY THE WAY, DO YOU KNOW IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE MAPS, SOMEBODY HAS REPLACED THE NAME OF PARKVIEW ISLAND.

THEY'VE RENAMED IT AND TARA CAUCUS ISLAND.

IT'S NOT FUNNY.

THIS IS SERIOUS GUYS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? EVERYONE IN NORTH BEACH, EVERYONE IN MIAMI BEACH SHOULD FILE A VAB HEARING AND ASK TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES DRASTICALLY REDUCED BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING IN A SEWAGE PIT.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

UM, WE'LL BRING BACK THIS ITEM IN SEPTEMBER.

UM, BUT I WON'T, I WON'T HESITATE TO CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE.

UH, YEAH, IF IT IS NECESSARY.

I, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY, I THINK THIS, I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD WAIT TILL SEPTEMBER.

I I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A REPORT BACK IN TWO WEEKS BEFORE, JUST BEFORE, JUST AFTER THE COMMISSION MEETING AND, AND POSSIBLY CALL A SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING AND HAVE A, A PLAN OF ACTION BECAUSE, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE GIVE ABOUT A, WE GIVE A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR A LOT OF GOOD CAUSES, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE BORING STUFF, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS, NOT AS EXCITING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE 11TH WE HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE ON, ON HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE, YOU KNOW, SPEND A LOT OF MONIES THAT WE HAVE.

I THINK ONE COMES TO MIND, AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THIS, LIKE THOSE VILLE FINES.

I, I THINK THE BEST USE OF THOSE FUNDS SHOULD BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BENEFIT FROM, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH BEACH.

SO, UM, I I WOULD, I WOULD WELCOME A SPECIAL MEETING.

SO AT THE TIME, AT THE RIGHT TIME, IF, IF IT'S NECESSARY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ASK THE MAYOR FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.

UH, AND IN THE MEANTIME, I HOPE IT'S CLEAR THE URGENCY AND THE UPDATES THAT WE WANT AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THEM.

I'LL CALL FOR A MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE.

WE'LL ASK FOR A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMISSION.

BUT IT HAS TO BE CLEAR, THE COMMISSION PASSED THIS UNANIMOUSLY AND THE EXPECTATION WAS FOR THERE TO BE ACTION.

THIS CALL ITEM

[9. DISCUSS AN ORDINANCE INCREASING FINES AND PENALTIES FOR FREQUENT CODE VIOLATIONS THAT AFFECT RESIDENT QUALITY OF LIFE]

NUMBER NINE.

OKAY, MR. CHAIR.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS DISCUSS AN ORDINANCE INCREASING FINES AND PENALTIES FOR FREQUENT CODE VIOLATIONS THAT AFFECT RESIDENT QUALITY OF LIFE.

HERNAN, WALK US THROUGH THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, HAR AND CARDENA FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.

SO THIS WAS A REFERRAL FROM COMMISSION, UH, TO THIS COMMITTEE BY YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, AND IT'S, UH, ASKING US TO LOOK AT OR IN ORDINANCE, UH, TO INCREASE FINES AND PENALTIES FOR FREQUENT CODE VIOLATIONS THAT IMPACT RESIDENT QUALITY OF LIFE.

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SO WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT BACK ONE YEAR FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED WHAT ARE THE TOP 10 VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CODE COMPLIANCE.

AND THAT'S THE, UH, THE GRAPH YOU HAVE BELOW.

UH, AND THEIR IN ORDER.

UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS ILLEGAL DUMPING.

SECOND WAS OVERFLOWING GARBAGE.

THIRD WAS BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.

FOURTH WAS OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

THEN IT GOES ON TO GRAFFITI FOURTH WIDTH OF VIOLATIONS, WHICH ARE MOSTLY SANITATION NOISE, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, RIGHT OF WAY VIOLATIONS AND, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.

SO WE ALSO COMPILED THE, UH, PENALTY AND FINE SCHEDULES FOR SOME OF THESE VIOLATIONS.

AND WE'VE ATTACHED THAT, UH, TO THE MEMO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND MAYBE LOOKING AT THESE AND CONSIDERING WHICH YOU WOULD WANT TO, UM, UH, AMEND THE FINE SCHEDULE, THERE IS ONE POINT OF DISTINCTION, AND THAT IS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE GRAFFITI, UH, AT YOUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, UH, FOR SECOND READING, YOU JUST PASSED ENHANCED PENALTIES INCREASING IT BY A HUNDRED PERCENT.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE VIOLATOR, NOT NECESSARILY THE, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT, UH, WHERE THE GRAFFITI IS AT, THAT STILL REMAINS UNDER 48 HOURS FOR REMOVAL.

IF NOT, THE CITY STEPS IN AND WE DO A HARD DOLLAR LIEN COST BACK TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, UNIT OWNER.

SO LET ME ASK YOU, UM, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO THAT ONE HAS NO FINE ASSOCIATED TO IT.

A PROPERTY OWNER IS OUTTA TOWN, AND THEN THE LET FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE LANDSCAPER IS SUPPOSED TO COME BUT DOESN'T COME, THERE'S CREDIT CARD FAILED OR IT DOESN'T SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A MILLION OF REASONS WHY IT WOULDN'T.

I BELIEVE THAT COMES OUTTA CHAPTER 58 AND OUR CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCES AND THAT, UM, VIOLATION, UH, IS SET FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO DETERMINE A FINE, THAT OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO GET COMPLIANCE.

WHY IS THAT? SO IF WE DO NOT HAVE COMPLIANCE, THEN IF IT'S SOMEWHERE WHERE THE CITY CAN TAKE ACTION AND WE CAN DO A HARD DOLLAR LIEN BACK, WE'LL REMEDIATE, UM, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE SPECIAL MASTER FOR ADJUDICATION, AND THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS THE LIEN PROCESS FOR THE ACTION THAT THE CITY TOOK TO REMEDIATE.

I I, I HAVE TO SAY, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT ABANDONED BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, ONE OF, OR ABANDONED PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, ONE OF THE GREATEST INDICATORS OF IT IS THE OVERGROWN VEGETATION AND NOT HAVING, UH, A FINE ASSOCIATED TO IT AND WAITING UNTIL A SPECIAL MASTER HEARING THAT CAN GET DELAYED AND DELAYED AND DELAYED.

TO ME, IT KIND OF CONTRIBUTES TO THE PROBLEM, ER CORRECT.

BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LOOKING AT THIS EYESORE FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE OF DUE PROCESS.

AND I GOT, I I GOT THAT.

YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES MIGHT SIT VACANT, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH REGULATORY PROCESSES, GETTING APPROVALS PERMITS, WHICH WE KNOW ARE ONEROUS.

AND THAT'S NOT A PROPERTY OWNER'S FAULT, BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM A CARTE BLANCHE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE GRAFFITI.

WELL, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO HAVE GRAFFITI.

THERE IS AN OWNER'S TO, TO CORRECT THE GRAFFITI.

UH, IN THIS CASE IT DOES.

THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM CARTE BLANCHE TO HAVE OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

THAT THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, AN IMPOSITION ON EVERYONE ELSE.

WHAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDED FINE, UH, FOR THE FIRST SECOND SUBSEQUENT OFFENSES ASSOCIATED WITH OVERGROWN VEGETATION? WELL, THAT'S WHAT OUR DISCUSSION IS HERE TODAY.

WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSION, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GO WITH.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, LISTEN, BUT WHEN WE DRIVE BY THESE PROPERTIES, WHAT CODE COMPLIANCE IS DOING, BESIDES TRYING TO FIND A CONTACT PERSON TO GET COMPLIANCE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS DROPPING IT INTO THE LEGAL PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN FORCE COMPLIANCE.

AND THAT MEANS GETTING THE CITY APPROVAL TO GO ONTO THAT PROPERTY AND REMEDIATE AND DO THE HARD DOLLAR LIEN COSTS.

UM, SO WELL AGAIN, GOING WHAT I GOT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING WORD THAT WAS DISCUSSING THIS, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IF WE WERE TO IMPOSE A VIOLATION, A, A FINE FOR, FOR OVERGROWN VEGETATION, WHAT IS IT THAT, THAT STAFF, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD RECOMMEND AS AN, AS AN APPROPRIATE, UH, VIOLATION FOR, FOR THIS IF IT WAS ME PERSONALLY, A MILLION DOLLARS.

BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT TO ANALYZE AND GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THAT DOLLAR FIGURE SHOULD BE.

WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T.

OKAY, ALRIGHT.

IS THERE, DOES, DO WE FEEL, WE WANT THERE TO BE A MONETARY VIOLATION OF MONETARY FINE ON OVERGROWN VEGETATION, WHICH IS WHAT IS OFTENTIMES ASSOCIATED WITH ABANDONED PROPERTIES.

I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A WARNING PERIOD, MAYBE THREE WARNINGS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU START TO GET A VIOLATION AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD OF NOTICE FOR, FOR THESE.

BECAUSE IF, IF, IF

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BUT, UM, I THINK IF, IF WE GIVE PLENTY OF NOTICE THEN, AND, AND THEY, DESPITE ALL THE NOTICES AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE A HABITUAL OFFENDER, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO MORE LENIENCY TO BE GIVEN.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE DON'T NEED TO GET THREE WARNINGS, YOU KNOW, LET LET THERE BE AN EDUCATION PERIOD AND THEN YOU GET ONE, ONE MULLI IN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW WHY? WELL, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT OWNERS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING WITHIN A YEAR, I'M SAYING THREE TOTAL FOR A PROPERTY FOR, FOR THE HISTORY.

SO IT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING RESET IT ONCE A YEAR, I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY'S LIFETIME.

UM, OR MAYBE YOU DO WANNA RESET IT MAYBE ONCE A YEAR.

BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK IF IT, IF ITS THE LIFETIME OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S 12 DIFFERENT OWNERS AND TOTALLY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND LIKE, I THINK WHOEVER'S THE OWNER NOW NEEDS TO, WELL, HERNIA, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

WHAT DO YOU THINK HER, YOU'RE THE PROFESSIONAL.

YOU'RE THE PROFESSIONAL HERE.

YOU TELL US GUIDANCE.

WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S GONNA, WE WANT COMPLIANCE.

WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? YES.

SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S GONNA IMPACT THE CHARACTER, NATURE, AND REPOSE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHEN WE START ADDING THESE WARNINGS.

UNDERSTAND IT'S STILL, WE'RE DELAYING.

WE'RE JUST DELAYING.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS STILL LOOKING AT THAT DILAPIDATED PROPERTY, OVERGROWN VEGETATION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE FOR THAT EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME FOR THESE WARNINGS TO TAKE IN TO, TO, TO GO INTO PLACE.

I, I THINK CHAPTER 58, THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE, UM, STATUTORILY YOU HAVE TO GIVE A, A TIME TO COMPLY.

WELL, RIGHT.

24, YOU HAVE TO GIVE A NOTICE TO, YOU HAVE TO GIVE A NOTICE TO CURE.

YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER AN EMAIL THAT WE GOT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND I THINK YOU CHIMED IN IT SOME, A WOMAN IN NORTH BEACH, A COUPLE PRO, UH, PALM PROMPTS FELL ON THE FLOOR AND YES.

AND WE WERE GIVEN, YOU, YOU WERE, THEY GAVE A WARNING, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THAT, THAT PROPERTY ORDER WAS REALLY IRATE AND SAY, WHY ARE WE, WHY AM I GETTING A WARNING WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH OTHER PROBLEMS? UM, AND IF WE WOULD'VE FIND THAT PERSON, I THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN EVEN WORSE.

SO, BUT YOU START WITH A WARNING.

YOU GIVE SOMEONE A 24 HOUR WARNING OR, OR, YOU KNOW, 72 HOURS SO THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, 72 IT FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH IT UNTIL OTHER, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF IT'S JUST POM ROMS THAT FELL DOWN AND THE LANDSCAPER WASN'T THERE TO SHOW UP, AND THEN, BUT THAT'S NOT OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

WE KNOW WHAT OVERGROWN VEGETATION IS, OVERGROWN VEGETATION IS, OR THE ABANDONED APARTMENT BUILDING LOOK OR MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU JUST HAVE, IT'S, IT JUST BECOMES A JUNGLE.

AND, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HEAR FROM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF SOME OF THESE ABANDONED PROPERTIES, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, THE, THE BIGGEST EYESORE IN IT IS THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FINE FOR.

AND THE ONE THING THAT THE CAN GET GETS KICKED DOWN ON THE ROAD, UM, THROUGH PROCEDURE, WHICH IS SPECIAL MASTER, WHERE YOU CAN ASK FOR CONTINUOUS.

AND WE, OF COURSE, NOW WE HAVE, THANKS TO COMMISSIONER AMIGA, WE HAVE A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF CONTINUANCES, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GET ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE SPECIAL MAS MASTER.

AND HOW LONG CAN THAT BE MR. DIRECTOR? AND THAT'S WHAT HURTS US.

THAT THAT COULD BE A FEW MONTHS.

THAT'S WHAT HURTS US.

SO FOR A FEW MONTHS, OUR REGULATORY DEPARTMENT IN, IN CHARGE OF ENFORCEMENTS, IT'S WITH YOUR HANDS TIED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS BECAUSE OF WHAT OF OUR RED TAPE AND OUR BUREAUCRACY.

AND MEANWHILE, ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE STUCK WITH THE EYESORE THAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO CORRECT.

AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A CITY, LIKE THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH CAN'T CORRECT THE EYESORE BECAUSE OF BUREAUCRACY.

SO I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT.

UM, I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT, UM, WE CAN PUT A WARNING, UH, TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION WITHIN 72 HOURS THAT WAY.

USUALLY IF IT'S A HOMEOWNER, IT'S PRETTY EASY, UH, IF, IF YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND IF YOU'RE, IF, IF, IF, IF YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE JUST SOMEONE THAT'S ABANDONING THE PROPERTY AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT AND YOU START ACCRUING THESE FINES, JUST TO BE CLEAR TOO, WHEN IT COMES TO NOT ONLY JUST VEGETATION BUT GARBAGE, UH, WE DO HAVE A 24 HOUR SANITATION VIOLATION THAT IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED WITHIN 24 HOURS AND THE CITY MOVES IN, REMEDIATES THE ISSUE AND THEN BUILDS BACK THAT RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND THE CASE COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT WAS A WARNING, BUT THAT WAS, AND WE THANK THAT, THAT CONDOMINIUM BECAUSE WE GOT A RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO REMEDY THAT SITUATION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ENCOUNTER ALL THE TIME.

DUMPSTER, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT JUST DUMP, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST GO TO A RANDOM DUMPSTER AND THEY JUST DUMP THEIR STUFF IN THERE.

I, I WOULD ALSO CAUTION AGAINST THE OVERFLOWING

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RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T WANNA PUNISH THE PROPERTY WHO, IN FACT, I WOULDN'T EVEN, I WOULDN'T EVEN PUT A VIOLATION THERE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE AN OVERFLOWING DUMPSTER, THE COMPANY IS ALREADY CHARGING THEM AN OVERFLOW FEE, AREN'T THEY, MR. DIRECTOR, MR. UH, CITY MANAGER, THEY DON'T HAVE.

BUT WITH COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, I KNOW WITH COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, AT LEAST IF YOU HAVE OVERFLOWING GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, WASTE HAULER, THE WASTE HAULER IS ALREADY USUALLY CHARGING YOU FOR HAVING AN OVERFLOW ON.

AND, AND IT'S NOT CHEAP.

THEY, THEY CHARGE YOU A LOT.

SO, AND TO YOUR POINT, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT EVEN THE PROPERTY RESPONSE.

PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY'LL DUMP STUFF IN YOUR, IN YOUR CONTAINER.

ALRIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

'CAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING.

I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK ON A RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S WORK, UH, OFFLINE, UH, ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEND BACK, UM, TO, TO AMEND THE FEE SCHEDULE WHERE WE INCORPORATE A WARNING WITH A 72 HOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CURE PERIOD.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, START IMPOSING FINES, UH, AFTER THAT.

AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE COMMITTEE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AS A STARTING FINE? DO WE WANT TO START AT 1000? DO WE WANT TO START AT $500? WHICH, FOR WHICH FOR, FOR THE OVERGROWN VEGETATIONS, I MEAN, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE A STATE MANDATED GUIDELINE? I MEAN, THE, THE STATUTORY LIMIT IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I, I THINK YOU, YOU MAY WANNA START BELOW THAT.

REMEMBER THAT THIS FINE COULD BE ISSUED TO ANY PROPERTY OWNER.

IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL, IT COULD BE APARTMENT, WE CAN START TWO 50 COMMERCIAL CAN 52 50.

AND BECAUSE IF, IF TWO 50, IF IT'S ACCRUING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWO 51ST VIOLATION OF 502ND VIOLATION, THEN THIRD VIOLATION, A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO, AND WE DON'T HAVE A, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY A VIOLATION FOR OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

WHAT, WHAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED, IT'S WAY SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, IT'S PART OF OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, UH, ORDINANCE.

SO, UM, ONCE A VIOLATION IS ISSUED, THE CASE IS BROUGHT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WHO CAN, UH, UH, SET A FINE BASED ON REALLY THE SPECIFIC NATURE OF THE VI AND, AND OVERGROWN VEGETATION IS PART OF A MUCH BROADER ORDINANCE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO, IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE TOO, BECAUSE ONCE SOMEBODY RECOGNIZES THAT IT'S AN ABANDONED HOUSE OR IT'S IN PROCESS OF FORECLOSURE OR WHATEVER, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, GREAT.

IT'S A CRASH PAD.

SO, AND, AND THAT, THOSE, BY THE WAY, THOSE END UP BEING THE HOMES WHERE WE END UP HAVING HOMELESS AND CABINETS.

AND I, I'VE SEEN IT AND DEALS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

I, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN, THOSE HOMES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO OVERGROWN THAT IT'S CLEARLY THAT CLEAR THAT NO ONE IS LIVING THERE, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE INDIVIDUALS AND GO IN AND START SQUATTING THERE.

AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR, IT'S A, IT CREATES A BIGGER PROBLEM.

SO, SO YOU'LL WORK ON AN ITEM TO BRING BACK, LET'S WORK WITH MY OFFICE, UH, AND, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE'LL TAKE IT TO COMMISSION AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER SARS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

AND JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES DID, HOW MANY WARNINGS DID YOU WANT TO GIVE? I, I, I PERSONALLY THINK TO BE SAFE, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE AT LEAST TWO WARNINGS.

AND THEN ON THE THIRD THERE'S A FINE TWO 50.

I WOULD DO ONE, I WOULD DO ONE.

BUT GET THEM 72 HOURS.

WHERE YOU HAVE THREE DAYS TO CORRECT AND THREE DAYS YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CORRECT.

BUSINESS DAYS.

BUSINESS DAYS, YEAH.

BECAUSE THE LAND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON A FRIDAY, I DON'T WANT, DOESN'T CREATE CONSISTENCY.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF OUR, HOW WE DO FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE GO BASED ON BUSINESS DAYS OR CALENDAR DAYS, UM, UNDER 10 DAYS, WE'RE DOING STRAIGHT DAYS.

UM, BUT THIS DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT WE STILL MOVE ON THE ONES THAT ARE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, LIKE THE LINE OF SLATE AT INTERSECTIONS.

AND IF IT'S IN A HOUSE THAT'S NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF THEM, WE MOVE IN IMMEDIATELY ON THAT.

UM, AND THE CITY GOES AHEAD AND MEDIATES, I I'M JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THE, THE UNSUSPECTING, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENT HOME, OR VERY SMALL CONDO THAT, UM, MAYBE JUST THERE'S A LAPSE IN, IN IN MAINTENANCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHAT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S, THIS IS GONNA BE A NET AND WE'RE GONNA START CAPTURING PEOPLE WHO MAKE FOR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL GOOD REASONS OF WHY.

BUT, AND THAT'S WHY I, I'M JUST INSISTENT ON, ON GIVING ENOUGH WARNINGS WHERE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY MORE EXCUSES OF, OF WHY.

BUT, UM, I, LET'S, LET'S SEE HOW THIS IRONS OUT.

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ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE IN PERSON AND SEEING NONE IN ZOOM? WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON NUMBER NINE.

SO BY ACCLIMATION, YOU'RE, UH, SENDING, GONNA BE SENDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH FINES AND PENALTIES FOR OVERGROWN VEGETATION.

UM, WILL THIS CONCLUDE THE ITEM OR DO YOU WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO NO, PLEASE SEND TO COMMISSION.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN WILL WORK WITH YOU AS THE, AS THE ITEM SPONSOR.

AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN ME, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COSPONSORS.

I'LL JOIN YOU.

NICK.

NICK, YOU GOT SECOND WARNING? I HEARD YOU.

YEAH, YOU CAN WORK ON IT.

LET'S, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER 10.

[10. REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE AND RECOMMEND NEW, MORE FORWARDLEANING RESILIENCY CODE UPDATES FOR OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT.]

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE AND RECOMMEND NEW FORWARD-LEANING RESILIENCY CODE UPDATES FOR OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

COMMISSIONER BOND, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

YEAH, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SO MUCH NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REHABILITATION DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO, UM, TO REALLY IN FURTHER INCENTIVIZE OR REALLY INCENTIVIZE, UM, PROJECTS TO EMBRACE GREEN ROO OR GREEN WALLS, LIVING WALLS.

I, I JUST SAW SOMETHING THAT IS BEING BUILT AS OF RIGHT IN NORTH BEACH AND IT'S ANOTHER GLASS BOX.

AND, UM, THERE'S NO GREEN ANYTHING.

THERE'S NOTHING TO SUSTAIN IT.

AND I, AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, GLASS BOXES ARE THE LEAST EFFICIENT TO KEEP COOL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A WARMING CLIMATE.

WE'RE IN A HOT CITY IN A WARMING CLIMATE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S CONFOUNDING TO ME THAT YOU CAN HAVE CITIES ALL OVER SOUTH AMERICA, ALL OVER EUROPE.

SOME WITH FAIRLY LIMITED MEANS PUBLIC HOUSING IN SOME CASES IN THE STATES BEING BUILT WITH GREEN ROOF OR, OR LIVING WALLS.

UM, AND, AND THEY ARE BEING DONE.

SO NOT JUST FOR AESTHETICS.

NOT ONLY DO THEY LOOK GREAT, BUT THEY ALSO HELP REDUCE COOLING AND HEATING COSTS AND HELP WITH SOUND BARRIERS WHEN THINGS ARE DONE BETWEEN THE WALLS.

AND I, I JUST, IT'S UNFATHOMABLE TO ME THAT WE DON'T DO THIS HERE MORE AGGRESSIVELY.

AND SO, UM, I'VE BEEN ON, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE IN VARIOUS FORMS. UM, AND I JUST, I REALLY WANT TO SEE MORE, YOU KNOW, REALLY STRONG ENCOURAGING ENCOURAGEMENT TO, UM, TO, TO DO THIS.

SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM HERE.

OUR THROATS, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT IT TOO.

UM, AS YOU'LL NOTE IN THE, UH, MEMO WE HAD INCLUDED A SUMMARY OF OUR CURRENT RESILIENCE, UH, AND ADAPTATION STANDARDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION STANDARDS.

AND IT GOES WELL BEYOND THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE BUILDING.

TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER BOT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD SUGGESTED IN THE MEMO, UH, IN TERMS OF FORWARD-LEANING BEST PRACTICES, UM, IS WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME, UH, IDEAS AND CONCEPTS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.

UM, AND THESE INCLUDE ESTABLISHING FORMAL BLUE AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE POLICIES FOR CITY PROJECTS, IMPROVED AND ENHANCED AND APPROPRIATE PLANT MATERIAL AND RIGHTS OF WAYS, INTRODUCING TRUE SWAS, WHICH ARE PROPERLY SLOPED FOR WATER RETENTION, BETTER UTILIZING AND PRIORITIZING OUR RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESILIENCY AND, AND MOBILITY.

UTILIZING INTERLOCKING PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR ON STREET PARKING, UH, PROHIBITING OR FURTHER RESTRICTING THE STORAGE OF VEHICLES BELOW GRADE.

UM, INCENTIVIZING LIVING SHORE SHORELINES IN MANGROVES, UM, REQUIRING DECORATIVE PONDS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, UM, AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

UM, ADDITIONAL BUILDING HEIGHT COULD BE PROVIDED TO REDUCE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND CREATE USABLE GREEN SPACES ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY THAT BETTER ACCOMMODATE STORM WATER, UM, AND ALLOW WATER TO PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND.

AND THEN FINALLY, CREATING ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO BUILD BLUE AND GREEN ROOFS THAT CAN ASSIST WITH ADDITIONAL STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND REDUCED POTABLE WATER, UH, DEMANDS.

THERE IS A SEPARATE ITEM THAT WAS RECENTLY REFERRED TO LAND USE REGARDING INCENTIVIZING, UH, GREEN ROOF.

SO I'M SURE THAT'LL BE DISCUSSED AS PART OF THAT.

SO WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I MEAN, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS IN THESE LISTS THAT I'M NOT KEEN ON.

I'M NOT KEEN ON A TRANSFER OF A TDR BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT EXPERIENCE DOING THIS WELL, AND I THINK HE'LL GET, WE'LL GET LOOPHOLE TO DEATH AND IT'LL END UP POORLY.

UM, BUT PRETTY MUCH ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE I WAS, UM, ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT, UM, I'D BE A LITTLE BIT LEERY OF ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES.

'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THAT STUFF DOWN

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UM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT , UM, BUT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S A NO BRAINER.

SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL DUE HAZE TO MAKE, TO CODIFY THIS? SO ANYBODY COMING WITH A PROJECT HAS TO HAVE AN ELEMENT OF GREENING THE PROJECT.

UNFORTUNATELY WITH, UM, THE PREEMPTIONS UNDER SENATE BILL 180, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO MANDATE THAT IN THE LDRS.

UM, THERE MAY BE WAYS OF INCENTIVIZING THAT.

UM, BUT INCENTIVES USUALLY REQUIRE, UM, ALLOWING FOR ADDITIONAL HYATT ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA OR, OR SOMETHING OF, OF THAT NATURE.

A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED IN HERE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION ARE NON LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, UM, PROJECTS OR NON-PRIVATE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

BUT IF IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WANT TO REALLY, UH, ZERO IN ON, THEN UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE THROUGH INCENTIVES.

THOUGHTS.

YOU WANNA CREATE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM, BRING BACK TO A COMMITTEE.

I, I FEAR THOUGH THAT OUR ONLY INCENTIVES THAT ANYONE'S GONNA CARE ABOUT IS HEIGHTENED DENSITY.

AND I'M NOT REALLY WILLING TO TRADE UP ON THAT.

MM-HMM.

I MEAN, CAN WE JUST TAKE MIAMI BEACH AND MAKE IT ITS OWN STATE? ITS OWN STATE? YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S COULD BE FUN.

IT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE COULD ISSUE OVER OWN EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO I, IT SEEMS LIKE WE PROBABLY NEED TO CLOSE THIS ITEM THAT, I MEAN IS BEFORE WE CLOSE CONVERSATION IS, IS THERE, IS THERE STUFF THAT WE CAN PUT IN NOT AT LEAST CODIFY WHEN IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE DOING FOR OUR PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW PARKING LOT SOMEPLACE THAT WE DO IT WITH A SCREEN ROOF OR A CURTAIN WALL OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, YOU CAN CERTAINLY SET FORTH STANDARDS FOR CITY PROJECTS THAT THE CITY WILL VOLUNTARILY ADHERE TO.

UM, AND THOSE COULD BE IN THE RANGE OF REQUIRING, FOR INSTANCE, PERMEABLE PAVERS FOR FUTURE CITY PARKING LOTS OR THE UPGRADING OF CITY PARKING LOTS OR NEW BUILDINGS BUILT BY THE CITY, INCORPORATING THIS TYPE OF GREEN ROOF TECHNOLOGY OR OTHER FUNCTIONS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN OUR OWN PROCEDURES AND POLICIES.

AND THAT DOESN'T GET PREEMPTED BY ANYBODY ELSE.

NO.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE OWN THAT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A HOMEOWNER SAYING, OH, I WANNA DO THIS.

SURE, YOU CAN DO THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING YOU FROM DOING THAT.

SO LET'S, LET'S DO THAT AT A MINIMUM.

I MEAN ESPECIALLY WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH WEST LOTS AND, AND WILL HAD MENTIONED PERMEABLE P PAVERS AND I TALKED WITH JOE GOMEZ, THAT'S HOW LONG AGO THIS CONVERSATION STARTED ABOUT PERMEABLE PAVERS AND, AND MATERIALS.

UM, SO YEAH, LET'S DO IT FOR THE CITY AND THEN MAYBE AS THINGS SETTLE, THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT WITHOUT TRADING AWAY HE INTENSITY FOR PRIVATE PROJECTS.

GOOD.

SO YOU WANT TO BRING, SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN IN SEPTEMBER WITH YOUR, WHY DON'T WE COME BACK IN OCTOBER SO THAT WAY I CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH PARKING AND WITH FACILITIES AND FLEET AND CIP AND PUBLIC WORKS JUST TO GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS AND UM, COME BACK WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO WE'RE GONNA SHOW THIS ITEM CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER, OCTOBER.

OCTOBER, OCTOBER, I'M SORRY.

MR. DIRECTOR, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER 12.

OCTOBER.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UM,

[12. DISCUSS UPDATES TO THE RESILIENCY CODE]

ITEM 12 IS DISCUSS UPDATES TO THE RESILIENCY CODE.

AND, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST CLEANUP LANGUAGE.

UH, AND SO I DON'T IF UNLESS THE COMMITTEE HAS QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS.

I'LL SECOND.

I'M GONNA LEAVE ITEM NUMBER 13 FOR NEXT MONTH JUST 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE, UH, TIME LIMIT TODAY.

BY, WE CAN SHOW THAT.

MOVING BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION.

AND THIS IS JUST UPDATED LANGUAGE JUST TO CLEAN UP.

UM, AND, UH,

[13. BI-MONTHLY UPDATE ON CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND THE STATUS OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASES, INVOLVING PROPERTIES AND/OR BUSINESSES LOCATED IN NORTH BEACH AND TO ADDRESS ANY ONGOING CONCERNS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH BEACH.]

AND THERE'S A COUPLE MORE ITEMS THAT WE DO NEED TO GET THROUGH.

COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.

UM, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER

[14. DISCUSS AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR TWO (2) STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT EXCEED 60 FEET IN LENGTH.]

14.

THAT'S YOUR ITEM AS THE DIRECTOR WOULD READ INTO THE RECORD.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 14.

DISCUSS AMENDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR TWO STORIES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT EXCEED 60 FEET IN LENGTH.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, TOM, IF YOU COULD JUST TEE IT UP FOR ME.

SECTION OF THE CODE, UH, THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED REQUIRES THAT FOR INTERIOR SIDE ELEVATIONS FOR TWO STORY HOMES THAT ARE GREATER THAN 60 FEET IN LENGTH, UM, THEY HAVE TO INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE.

I'D BE GLAD TO.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO AMEND SECTION 7.3 OF THE LDRS REGARDING SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND SPECIFICALLY THIS

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AND THIS ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE IS IN THE FORM OF CARVE OUTS ON THOSE ELEVATIONS.

AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME REGULATIONS REGARDING, UH, THE SHAPE OF THESE AND THE DEPTH OF THESE.

THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE OPEN SPACE WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE AND AND THE COMMITTEE DID DISCUSS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UM, WERE ALLOWING FOR, UH, PORTIONS OF THAT REQUIRED INTERIOR OPEN SPACE TO CONSIST OF IN ADDITION TO LANDSCAPE PERVIOUS AREA, UM, A UH, IN-GROUND WATER FEATURE SUCH AS A POND OR A DECORATIVE POOL.

UH, I KNOW SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HAD A CONCERN WITH THAT.

UM, BUT THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE IS EITHER A CLARIFICATION OR THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS REMAIN THE SAME AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

AND IF THERE IS CONSENSUS ON THIS, YOU CAN SEND IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE NO COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD WATER RETENTION AREAS IN THIS.

WE, WE ARE NOT CREATING ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

I'D MAKE THE MOVE THE ITEM SECOND.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SEEING NONE IN PERSON, NONE ONLINE.

WITH THAT, WE CAN SEND THIS ITEM BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER

[16. DISCUSS THE INCORPORATION OF RESILIENCY MEASURES IN CITY PARKS AND GREENSPACE PROJECTS.]

16.

COMMISSIONER BOD, THIS IS YOUR ITEM, AND I'LL READ THIS INTO THE RECORD.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS DISCUSSED, THE INCORPORATION OF RESILIENCY MEASURES IN CITY PARKS AND GREEN SPACE PROJECTS.

COMMISSIONER BO FINALE.

UM, YEAH, SO THIS, THIS SORT OF FOLLOWS ON THE HEELS OF THE LAST ONE.

UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY TO GREEN ROO OR CURTAIN WALLS, UM, LIVING WALLS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA OF WE'VE GOT, AND, AND YOU KNOW, READING THROUGH THE ATTACHMENTS, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, THINGS THAT WE RECOMMEND, UM, IN HOW WE DO THINGS SO THAT WE ARE AS RESILIENT AS POSSIBLE.

I, WHAT, WHAT TO ME IS COMPLICATED AND AMY, I'LL ASK YOU TO WALK US THROUGH THIS, IS IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE URGINGS AND STRIVE FOR AND WE RECOMMEND OR WHERE POSSIBLE, AND IT'S KIND OF, IT, IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND FIND A WAY TO DO IT.

AND SO HOW DO WE GET FROM, YOU KNOW, A VERY THOROUGH SUGGESTION OF GOOD BEST PRACTICES TO THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND FIND A WAY TO GET IT DONE.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AMY KNOWLES, CHIEF RESILIENCE OFFICER.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ITEM AND I THINK THERE'S PAGES OF STUFF HERE BECAUSE OUR CITY IS A LEADER IN THIS AREA AND WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH.

UM, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING BEING AN ORDINANCE AND A RESOLUTION AND A PLAN.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SCOPE OF WORKS AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN.

SO WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DRAW FROM IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.

WE HAVE AMAZING PARKS THAT PEOPLE COME TO VISIT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MARIE SKIP, WE HAVE BRITTANY BAY, WE ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING TOURS.

WE NOW HAVE BAYSHORE THAT WE'RE OPENING.

CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.

SO WE ARE, PEOPLE ARE COMING TO SEE THE WORK WE'RE DOING.

SO I DON'T WANNA FORGET THAT.

UM, WE DO HAVE WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF A SURPRISE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE DOCUMENT EVEN POP UP ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT WE USE FOR STAFF THAT WE'RE USING TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY DEPARTMENT REVIEWS PROJECTS, WE'RE CHECKING FOR THESE THINGS AND WE'RE GIVING THIS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK TO THE ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS USUALLY CIP, IT MAY BE PARKS, IT MAY BE PUBLIC WORKS, BUT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THIS INFORMATION IS THERE AND THEN IT SHOULD GET WRITTEN INTO THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS, RIGHT? IS THIS DOABLE? WHAT IS THE COST? AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, COME DOWN TO, TO WHETHER IT GETS BUILT OR NOT.

SO THIS IS A COMP COMPILATION.

WE CAN FURTHER REFINE IT.

I WILL SAY THERE'S A LOT OF ORDINANCES IN HERE AND, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES, THEY NEED PROPER VETTING, RIGHT? EVEN ONE SMALL ORDINANCE CHANGE CAN, CAN MEAN A LOT.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE HIGHEST STANDARD.

THAT'S WHEN YOU, YOU MUST DO SOMETHING.

SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THAT, BUT WHEN IT IS SOMETHING LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FLOOD RISK REDUCTION, YOU KNOW, THIS DOCUMENT IS COMBINED INTO A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS, ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

FLOOD RISK REDUCTION, EXTREME HEAT, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AND RENEWABLE ENERGY, WATER EFFICIENCY, LITTER AND PLASTICS REDUCTION,

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THERE'S A LOT OF FACETS TO RESILIENCE.

IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, FLOODING.

AND IT'S ABOUT OUR, OUR ABILITY AS A COMMUNITY TO, TO BOUNCE BACK AND, AND ALSO TO CREATE COMMUNITY SPACES.

SO THERE'S A LOT IN HERE, BUT SOME THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE FLOOD RISK, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR STORM STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE OUR CHAPTER, UH, 54 FOR FLOODS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS OF PLANS THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, LIKE OUR BLUE-GREEN STRATEGY CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THERE'S A LOT HERE ALREADY, AND WE HAVE EXPLORED A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES.

THE R TANKS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RETENTION LAKE IN BAYSHORE, SO IT'S A MATTER HERE OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, SELECTING THESE OPTIONS AND PRIORITIZING THEM AND TRYING TO FIT THEM IN THOSE SPACES.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO INTERJECT FOR A SECOND IS HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? IS IT PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT THE PERSON REVIEWING THE PROJECT FOR THAT RESPECTIVE AREA, FLOOD RISK REDUCTION OR PARKING OR WHATEVER, OR YOU KNOW, IF IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S, THEY HAVE TO KNOW TO LOOK FOR THESE, UM, ELEMENTS TO BE INCORPORATED? I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T YEAH.

OR FORGETS OR LIKE, OH, WHO'S GONNA KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? YEAH.

WELL I THINK FORTUNATELY, UM, IT, THIS, THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE DO BUSINESS NOW.

I THINK THE CITY'S BEEN AT THIS FOR SOME TIME.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST 10 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT DAVID GOMEZ, WE'VE GOT JOHN REBAR, WE HAVE A FULL STAFF TEAM.

AND A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY KIND OF WRITTEN INTO THOSE, THOSE SCOPES.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE STRIVE FOR, UM, THROUGH THE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET PROCESS.

WE'VE DONE TRAINING FOR PROJECT MANAGERS ON WHAT RESILIENCE IS AND HOW TO TIE THESE THINGS IN.

UM, SO WE, WE, WE DO HAVE A LOT TO DRAW FROM.

WE HAVE ADOPTED PLANS AND STRATEGIES.

SO, AND IT COMES THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE GET EMAILS LIKE, PLEASE REVIEW THIS PLAN AND WE GIVE ALL OF OUR COMMENTS AND OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO THAT AS WELL, WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY OR PARKING.

SO WE DO HAVE A PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IN PLACE FOR THAT.

SO COULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT BECOMING TOO ONEROUS TO, UM, DO LIKE AN INTERNAL, YOU KNOW, VERSION OF A LEADS PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN SAY, BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE DOING THESE 10 THINGS, THIS BUILDING GETS A SILVER BECAUSE IT'S DOING EIGHT OF THESE THINGS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE AS, AS ELECTIVES CAN SHARE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS ACTUALLY SUPER RESILIENT, HERE'S WHY.

OR THIS GETS A 12, IT'S A LEADS PLUS PLUS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

UM, BECAUSE OUT OF THE, THE 10 MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THOSE PLUS TWO OTHERS, LIKE IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF QUANTIFY IT BEYOND THIS IS HOW WE OPERATE IT'S BEST PRACTICES AND WE KIND OF DO THAT BY NATURE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, LEAD IS, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREEN BUILDING ORDINANCE AND SO WE ARE REQUIRING LEAD FOR, FOR BUILDINGS OF A CERTAIN SIZE.

AND SO WE CAN USE THAT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH OUR OWN CERTIFICATION PROCESS.

UH, WE CAN SIMPLIFY THIS DOCUMENT TO SAY LIKE, WHAT'S REQUIRED AND THIS, AND LIKE WHAT'S ENCOURAGED.

AND THERE'S THINGS IN HERE THAT CAN BE EXPLORED LIKE EXTREME HEAT, YOU KNOW, WE, OF COURSE WE'RE PLANTING TREES AND WE'RE ADDING SHADE AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COLD WATER AT PARKS, BUT YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE MISTERS? SHOULD WE DO OTHER THINGS? YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE WORK THAT CAN BE DONE HERE.

UM, BUT I THINK A CERTIFICATION PROGRAM WOULD, WOULD BE PROBABLY ON THIS, NOT LITERALLY A CERTIFICATION, BUT LIKE A CHECKLIST, LIKE A, SOMETHING THAT WE, LIKE A SCORECARD.

SO IT'S NOT LITERALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CERTIFYING, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISSEMINATE SAYING, HEY, THIS NEW PARKING LOT IS NOT JUST A PARKING LOT.

LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IT'S ACCOMPLISHING, YOU KNOW, HIDDEN IN THE, THE, WITHIN THE WALLS OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS EASILY COMMUNICATE, EASY TO COMMUNICATE THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE DIFFERENT, UH, BEST PRACTICES AND ORDINANCES AND STANDARDS.

I THINK I, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS AND, AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH.

YEAH, I LIKE IT.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL TAKE A LOT OF THINGS FOR GRANTED AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE COULD DO BETTER.

AND IT'S NICE TO SHARE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING BETTER THAN OTHER FOLKS OR BETTER THAN WE WERE 10 YEARS AGO, THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT.

AND THAT CAN BE A SUCCESS STORY.

I, AND EDUCATE OUR OURSELVES AND OUR COLLEAGUES AND OUR, OUR AND THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.

EXACTLY.

I THINK THE COMMUNITY SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN IT BECAUSE IT IS THEIR TAX DOLLARS.

AND I ALMOST SEE IT ALMOST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO DIFFERENT CITIES AND THEY HAVE THE GRADING ON THE CLEANLINESS OR THE YEAH, THE FOOD RATING.

YEAH, THE RESTAURANT, THE FOOD RATING ON RESTAURANTS.

AND YOU COULD KIND OF DO THE SAME THING FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES A PUBLIC FACILITY RATE, UH, IN ITS RESILIENCY, UH, MEASURES, UH, AND I THINK BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO PRIDE.

HAVE VERY HIGH LEVELS OF, OF, OF RESILIENCY MEASURE SYNDROME.

YEAH, I THINK SO TOO BECAUSE WE SAY WE WE'RE A LEADING EDGE CITY ON RESILIENCE, BUT HOW, HOW DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT? AND YOU CAN ALMOST, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE LIKE, EH, HOW ARE YOU LEADING ANYTHING? AND YOU COULD ALL, AND YOU COULD EVEN SEE, IT'LL BE GREAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO SEE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN OLDER FACILITIES THAT PERHAPS HAVEN'T BEEN AS, YOU KNOW, AS TIGHTENED UP FOR RESILIENCY VERSUS NEWER, UH, FACILITIES THAT

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SO I, I LIKE THIS, I LIKE THE DIRECTION YOU'RE TAKING THIS IN, COMMISSIONER BOT.

SO, AND, AND ALWAYS VERY PROUD OF OUR OFFICE OF RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY THAT ARE ALWAYS ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF ALL OF ALL OF THESE ISSUES.

IS OCTOBER ENOUGH TIME OR DO YOU NEED NOVEMBER? I THINK, I THINK OCTOBER WOULD BE FINE.

I'M IMAGINING IT LIKE A KIND OF A VERY SIMPLE TEMPLATE THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, CHECKLIST AND STARS AND HIGHLIGHTING THINGS SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT TOO.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

I SEE WE HAVE LARRY SCHAFER WITH HIS HAND RAISED.

WELCOME LARRY.

HELLO, LARRY SCHAFER 2 3 3 FIRST STREET.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT ITEM AND I THINK THAT THE DRAFT THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY GROUP PUT TOGETHER HERE IS, IS WONDERFUL.

I'M NOW LOOKING AT TRYING TO HELP DESIGN SOME GREEN SPACES FOR THE WEST LOTS AND I'M IMMEDIATELY GONNA REFER TO THIS WORK.

SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT DIRECTION.

I'D LOVE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE REDUCING HEAT ISLAND ELEMENTS, MRS. SPLASH PARKS.

THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT OVERALL HAVING A CONSOLIDATED LIST OF, OF, OF RESILIENCY MEASURES AND WHEN ACTIVELY DESIGNING GREEN SPACES IS GONNA BE A HELP TO ME.

SO, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A HELP TO OTHERS WHO CAN FOLLOW THIS WITH OTHER PARKS THAT THEY'RE, THAT, THAT WE'RE DESIGNING.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE, UH, MY OFFICE REACHES OUT TO YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MR. REBAR FROM THE UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO WITH THAT COMMISSIONER BOT, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS ITEM? NOPE, THAT'S IT.

IT CAN SHOW THIS ITEM CONTINUED.