Sep 19, 2025 Design Review Board

GET ROLLING. OKAY. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO PART TWO OF THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW

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IN COMING BACK. AND WE WILL WORK HARD TO GET BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.

AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND TO STAFF FOR COMING BACK A SECOND TIME THIS MONTH.

SO WE HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING, SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES TODAY.

BUT ROGELIO WILL EXPLAIN. OKAY, SO THE CHAMBERS, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISPLAY PRESENTATIONS OVER THE SCREENS TODAY IN CITY HALL. SO IF YOU ARE ONLINE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, YOU CAN VIEW THOSE FROM THE CITY'S ONLINE AGENDA WHERE YOU CAN VIEW EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AGENDA TODAY, WHICH ARE TWO ITEMS, AND THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS.

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SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2025 AT 9 A.M.. AND YOU CAN VIEW THE HTML AGENDA.

AND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO VIEW ALL OF THE ALL OF THE PLANS, ALL OF THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS AND THE PRESENTATIONS THAT TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN TODAY AT CITY HALL. SO IF SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG WITH US.

WE HAVE PRINTED COPIES HERE IN THE CHAMBERS OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS.

[ City Attorney Updates Memorandum September 19, 2025]

I'M GOING TO READ THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INTRO ON THEIR BEHALF TODAY.

SO IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF, AND NOT ON ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING.

OR IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM, EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.

IF YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.

THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

AND SORRY. GO AHEAD. THIS. SORRY, THIS IS THIS IS NICK KALLERGIS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I CAN SWEAR EVERYBODY IN AT THIS TIME. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE TESTIFYING TODAY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, I DO THANK YOU.

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SO WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ATTENDANCE. SO WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.

AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A ROLL CALL JUST FOR THE RECORD.

MISS BUTTACAVOLI, MR. DIFFENDERFER IS ABSENT.

MISS GILLER NELSON HERE, MR. LESTER. HERE, MISS LEWIN.

MR. MESHBERG AND MR. PAEZ IS ABSENT. AND SO WITH THAT, MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN.

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[1. DRB25-1113, 409 EAST SAN MARINO DRIVE.]

OKAY, SO THIS THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

IT IS IN THE RS THREE ZONING DISTRICT, HAS A LOT SIZE OF 12,855FT².

SO IT EXCEEDS THE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIRED FOR THIS DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A HOME THAT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE SEEKING A WAIVER FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE FEET OF HEIGHT.

SO THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN THIS DISTRICT AS OF RIGHT IS 24FT.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A WAIVER TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE HOME AT 27FT.

THIS IS AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, RECENTLY THE CODE WAS AMENDED SO THAT INCREASED THE EXTRA THREE FEET THAT USED TO BE TREATED AS A VARIANCE ARE NOW TREATED AS A DESIGN WAIVER SO THAT ANYONE SEEKING EXTRA HEIGHT FOR THE HOME HAS TO COME BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR FOR DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL.

SO THIS HOME IS BEING DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE.

IT IS A LARGE LOT. IT IS HAS COMPLIES WITH ALL THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

THE EXTRA HEIGHT GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LOT, SHOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY CREATE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

WE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN OVERBEARING SENSE FOR THE FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING ALONG THE PERIMETER TO HELP PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS FROM ANY FROM ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS.

SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THE WAIVER.

FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE, THE HOME IS, AS I SAID, IT WAS DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE HIGHLIGHTED BY CURVED PROJECTING EAVES AND FLOOR SLABS ON THE FRONT AND REAR ELEVATIONS.

THE HOME IS IS CLAD IN A TRAVERTINE STONE ON ITS MAIN ELEVATIONS AND HAS EXPANSIVE GLAZING ALONG THE SECOND FLOOR IN THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH CONTRASTS WITH THE MORE BRUTAL GROUND FLOOR FINISH.

AND ON BOTH FLOORS OF THE OF THE REAR ELEVATION THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME TAPERS OUTWARD BECAUSE IT IS A IT IS SORT OF AN IRREGULAR LOT FROM THE REAR TAPERS OUTWARDS TOWARD THE REAR FOLLOWING THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES.

THERE'S ALSO A CENTRAL COURTYARD THAT BREAKS UP THE INTERIOR OF THE MASSING.

SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER, AND WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. GOOD MORNING, MATT AMSTER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF BURKE, HOWARD, L FERNANDEZ, LARKIN AND TAPANES OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN MIAMI.

HERE TODAY REPRESENTING 409 EAST SAN MARINO DRIVE, LLC.

AND WITH US, THE OWNERS ARE ON ZOOM. DAVID AND ILANA.

DAVID WAS HERE LAST WEEK IN PERSON, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE RIGHT AT THE END AND COULDN'T BE HEARD.

BUT WHILE THEY COULDN'T BE HERE IN PERSON, THEY ARE MONITORING ON ZOOM.

WITH ME TODAY. I HAVE CODY, DAMON AND DANE DAMON, OUR ARCHITECTS, AND MATT LEWIS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

I HAVE PASSED OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR NEARBY NEIGHBORS.

AND SO WE HAVE ONE SIGNED LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.

AND WITH THAT, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG IN YOUR HARD COPY THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, GO AHEAD. CODY. GOOD MORNING. CODY. DAMON. DAMON.

FEYNMAN ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN, 2414 CORAL WAY, MIAMI, FLORIDA.

WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS HOME AND HAVE A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THE NORTHERN VIEW TO THE OPEN BAY, WITH BEING THE PIE SHAPED LOT. WE WANTED TO KIND OF TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, THAT NORTH BAY VIEW.

SO YOU'LL SEE WHEN I PRESENT THAT, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE INTERESTING THINGS WE DID IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S AN EXISTING TWO STORY HOME THAT IS ON THE LOT.

THE GRADE IS ACTUALLY UP PRETTY HIGH. SO OUR GRADING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE SITE IS GOING TO BE AT A SIMILAR LOCATION THAT IT IS NOW.

AND THE SIZE OF THAT HOME, THAT TWO STORY HOME WITH THE HIP ROOF IS, IS ALREADY PRETTY LARGE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IN THE AERIAL IMAGES THAT WE HAVE.

THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DENSE LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BOTH OF THOSE THOSE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING ARE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THERE'S ALMOST NO LANDSCAPING ON THE LOT NOW.

SO ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WILL BE ON OUR LOT AND ADDING QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPING TO OUR LOT IN ADDITION TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IMAGE FROM THE AERIAL, ALL THAT LANDSCAPING DOWN BOTH SIDES.

WE HAVE THE EXISTING SURVEY HERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING HOME.

SO THERE ARE JUST BECAUSE OF THE IF YOU COULD, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO FOLLOW ALONG.

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SO ON PAGE SIX, WE HAVE THE OVERLAY OF THE SURVEY WITH THE EXISTING HOME AND IN RED.

WE'VE KIND OF SHOWN THE NONCONFORMITY TO THE SIDE SETBACKS.

THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING CABANA STRUCTURE WHICH IS NON-CONFORMING AND REALLY PUSHED TO THE TO THE EAST SIDE IN THE REAR YARD.

SO WE WOULD BE DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING HOME AND DEMOLISHING THAT OBTRUSIVE STRUCTURE THERE AT THE REAR YARD.

AND THEN IF YOU GO TO PAGE SEVEN, YOU CAN SEE OUR SITE PLAN OBVIOUSLY COMPLIANT WITH ALL THE FRONT, REAR AND SIDE SETBACKS. SO OUR SIDE SETBACKS WILL BE GETTING LARGER.

ALSO, THE MASSING OF THE HOME ITSELF HAS BEEN MORE CENTRALIZED ON THE LOT.

WE DO HAVE THE ONE STORY GARAGE, WHICH IS THE SMALLER ELEMENT GOES CLOSER TO THE STREET, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A DIMENSION OF ABOUT 76FT FROM THE STREET TO THE SECOND FLOOR VOLUME. SO THE MAIN MASS OF THE HOME IS REALLY CENTRALIZED ON THAT LOT, AS WELL AS HAVING THAT BIG OPEN REAR YARD SPACE.

YOU CAN ALSO START TO SEE HOW WE'VE CARVED INTO THE HOME A LITTLE BIT, WITH COURTYARDS AND LANDSCAPE THAT START TO INTEGRATE INTO THE STRUCTURE.

ON PAGE EIGHT, WE HAVE THE CONTEXT ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING HOMES AS WELL AS A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT HOME FITS VERY WELL INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

TRIED TO SHOWS THAT REALLY DENSE LANDSCAPING AS ACCURATELY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, JUST TO SHOW THAT THAT HOME FITS WELL WITHIN THE CONTEXT AND, AND WORKS IN THE AREA THAT IT'S PROPOSED. ON PAGE NINE.

SORRY, THE PAGE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OBSCURED BY THE BY THE BINDING THERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE NINE WE HAVE THE CONTEXT RENDERINGS OF THE EXISTING HOME VERSUS THE PROPOSED HOME BELOW THAT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT FITS IN. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF DENSE LANDSCAPING AT THE FRONT, SO WE DO WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE A VERY PRIVATE NICE HOME.

SO THERE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPE AT THE FRONT.

WE HAVE MATT LEWIS HERE. OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

ON PAGE TEN WE HAVE THE EXISTING TREE SURVEY.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE TREES THAT ARE ON THE ADJACENT LOTS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE, WE STILL HAVE ALL THOSE TREES KEPT ON BOTH SIDES, AND THEN ALL THE DENSE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE ADDED TO OUR LOT, AS WELL AS HOW WE HAVE THE COURTYARDS OF THE SOUTH AND AT THE REAR OF THE HOME AND AT THE ENTRY THAT KIND OF PEEL INTO THE HOUSE AND BREAK DOWN THAT MASSING.

ON PAGE 12, WE AGAIN HAVE THAT THAT CONTEXT RENDERING.

AND WE CAN QUICKLY FLIP TO PAGE 13. SO THIS IS THE REAR VIEW OF THE HOME.

WE ARE REQUESTING THE THREE FOOT HEIGHT WAIVER.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO REALLY SLIM OUT THE ARCHITECTURE AND MAKE IT FEEL LIGHTER.

WE'VE PROJECTED THESE EAVES AT A LOWER ELEVATION FROM THE MAXIMUM.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE PRIMARY BEDROOM IS ACTUALLY AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE THAT FLOATS AND GETS REALLY CAPTURES THAT NORTH VIEW.

AND WE LIKE THAT EAVE LOOK BECAUSE IT ADDS A LOT OF MOVEMENT DEPTH TO THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL AS THINS IT OUT.

AND THEN THE NATURAL CURVATURE THAT'S CREATED BY THAT, THAT ANGLE I THINK CREATES A REALLY EXCITING FORM AND A LITTLE BIT REMINISCENT OF THE WAY FOR FOR THE OWNER'S HOUSE ON THE WATER. YOU CAN ALSO SEE IN THAT IMAGE HOW THOSE COURTYARDS START TO PUNCTURE AND GROW INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

ON PAGE 14 YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE MATERIALITY.

WE HAVE THE THE WARM TRAVERTINE THAT ACTS AS THE BASE FOR THE HOME.

REALLY BEAUTIFUL MATERIAL. AND THOSE WALLS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CURVED IN SOME LOCATIONS.

SO IT REALLY SOFTENS THE ARCHITECTURE A LOT, A LOT MORE INVITING.

THE MATERIALITY WE HAVE THE, THE LIME BASED PLASTER, WHICH IS AN OFF WHITE, MORE TEXTURED MATERIAL.

SO THE MATERIAL PALETTE ITSELF IS A VERY MUTED, SOPHISTICATED, WARM, ELEGANT TONE THAT REALLY FITS INTO THE LANDSCAPE.

AND WE DO HAVE ALL THOSE MATERIALS THERE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE FLOOR, IF YOU CAN SEE THEM RIGHT THERE.

ON PAGE 15 WE HAVE THE FRONT RENDERING. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WE HAVE THAT GARAGE VOLUME.

THAT'S THAT LOWER SLUNG ONE STORY VOLUME THAT PUSHES OUT TO THE STREET.

AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT IS IS SIGNIFICANTLY SET BACK.

A LOT OF OF THE TRAVERTINE IS ON THAT FRONT ELEVATION.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY STRIPPED A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPE FROM THE FRONT OUT OF THIS RENDERING JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE. BUT THE INTENT IS THAT THAT WILL BE VERY DENSELY LANDSCAPED. AND ON PAGE 16 WE HAVE ANOTHER SHOT JUST SO YOU CAN SEE UP THE DRIVE CORRIDOR, THE FAMILY'S ENTRANCE TO THE HOME, THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR. AND NOW WE KIND OF HAVE THOSE CALVES AND THAT PLAY OF THE EAVES, THAT KIND OF SWING OVER AND CREATE THESE COURTYARD ELEMENTS INTO THE HOME.

AND ON PAGE 17 WE HAVE OUR MATERIAL PALETTE. SO WE HAVE THE, THE LIME BASED PLASTER JUST TO WARM THAT UP.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A STARK WHITE STUCCO. WE HAVE A DARK GRAY COLOR FOR THE METAL WINDOWS, WHICH I FIND WORKS WITH THE MATERIAL PALETTE

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WE ARE PROPOSING ONE SLIGHT CHANGE FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL DRB SUBMISSION WAS, AND THAT'S SIMPLY JUST THAT THE FRONT VEHICULAR GATE.

EIGHT. ORIGINALLY WE HAD THAT FLUSH ALL ALONG THE FRONT WALL, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT LIMITING IN THE HEIGHT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO JUST PUSH THE VEHICULAR GATE BACK INTO THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN ADD A LITTLE MORE HEIGHT, A LITTLE MORE SECURITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT IN THE SAME WOOD THAT IS IS IN THE HOME.

AND THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST IF I COULD A FEW MORE POINTS.

THIS HOME, AS CODY WAS SAYING, GRADE TODAY IS ALREADY UP PRETTY HIGH.

IT IS AN OLDER HOME. SO AS A NEW HOME, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS FREEBOARD AND WE ARE AT THREE FEET OF FREEBOARD.

SO RATHER I THINK IT'S WHAT INSTEAD OF NINE IS A BASE FLOOR.

SO WE'RE AT 12. HOWEVER, THIS HOUSE WOULD BE MUCH TALLER IF IT HAD AN UNDERSTORY WHICH WE DECIDED THE OWNERS DID NOT WANT.

SO THAT HELPS TO KEEP THE HOME AGAIN IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IN ADDITION, THERE'S NO ROOF DECK AT ALL.

NO ROOFTOP TOP ACCESS. AGAIN, THAT HELPS TO MAINTAIN THE HEIGHT.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WITH THESE GREAT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL WE HAVE A RESILIENT HOME THAT ISN'T OVERLY TALL.

THAT'S IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, HAS, YOU KNOW, GOOD PRIVACY FOR EVERYONE.

IN FACT, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING THE LANDSCAPING.

IT'S VERY WEIRD TO HAVE A PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH, IF ANY, LANDSCAPING TODAY.

SO IT'S AND WITH TEN FOOT SETBACKS, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR MATT LEWIS TO, TO PUT IN GREAT LANDSCAPING TO, TO HELP THIS OWNER AND THE ADJACENT OWNERS. SO FROM, FROM THAT WE AGREE WITH ALL OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF DESIGN AND THE HEIGHT WAIVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE HERE? IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

I SEE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM. OKAY, GREAT. I'M NOW GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? DO YOU WANNA START? SURE.

OVERALL, THE DESIGN LOOKS BEAUTIFUL TO ME, AND I LIKE TO HAVE YOU AS A LANDSCAPING BECAUSE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, SOME EXISTING PROPERTIES, DON'T HAVE A HEAVY USE OF FOLIAGE, SO I DEFINITELY APPLAUD THE USE OF LANDSCAPING ON IT. SO THANK YOU MATT. BEAUTIFUL JOB.

YEAH. JUST ONE QUESTION. ON PAGE 16, YOU SHOW THE DRIVEWAY HAS PAVERS THAT APPEAR TO BE LIGHT IN COLOR. SO ON PAGE 17, IT SHOWS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PAVER.

IS THAT IN THE BACK THE PERMEABLE PAVERS THAT YOU SHOW ON PAGE 17.

SO IF YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE SHOW THE OVERFLOW PARKING LOCATION, IT'S SIMPLY A LITTLE BIT OF PERVIOUS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE THEY WILL BE PERVIOUS PAVERS BUT THEY WON'T HAVE THE TURF BLOCK LOOK.

SO IT'S SIMPLY SO THAT THE OWNER CAN PARK AN ADDITIONAL CAR, OR JUST HELPING WITH THE PULL OUT FROM THE SIDE FACING GARAGE BECAUSE IT IS WITH THE PIE SHAPED LOT. IT IS PRETTY TIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT.

SO ON THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SMALL PORTION WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY SETBACK WHERE WE DO ARE PROPOSING SOME REINFORCED TURF BLOCK WITH SOME GRASS TO INFILL.

AND WE WANTED ONE THE OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE TO PARK AND PULL OUT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I STILL LIKE THE LOOK OF IT BEING NOT JUST MONOLITHIC PAVERS.

I LIKE IT STILL FEEL LIKE LANDSCAPE AND LUSH.

OKAY, SO THOSE PERMEABLE PAVERS ARE IN THE OVERFLOW.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN SO BECAUSE THAT'S A QUESTION TO YOU.

SO THE IMAGE I GUESS THIS ONE. SO THIS IS THE PAVERS FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY.

CORRECT. OVERFLOW. AND THAT'S WHAT'S DEPICTED.

THAT'S THIS. NO, THAT WOULD BE THE MORE THE PERMEABLE PAVER.

AND I THINK, MATT, YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES THAT WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT PAVERS, BUT THEY'LL BE IN A VERY SIMILAR LOOK.

SIMILAR VEIN. IT'LL ESSENTIALLY BE MORE OF A SPACING BETWEEN THEM TO PUT REINFORCED GRASS, TO HAVE LANDSCAPE GROW THROUGH THEM. I SEE. AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO THE RENDERING.

IT MIGHT AT THE BACK. IT JUST MIGHT BE HARD TO SEE.

LET ME SEE IF. WHERE IS THAT MAIN PAVER SHOWN? I'M SORRY. MAIN PAVER. DO WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF A PAVER?

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YEAH, I CAN SHOW YOU THOSE. THIS. OKAY. AND THEN.

ROGELIO. JUST ONE. ONE NOTE. I SEE. WHAT PAGE IS THAT? NO. OVER HERE. OH. OH, SORRY. OKAY. FOR PRINTING PURPOSES, WE DECIDED NOT TO REPRINT EVERYTHING.

OKAY. SO THIS IS THE MAIN PAGE. HERE'S THE OVERFLOW.

OVERFLOW. PARKING PAPER. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

COULD I SIMILARLY ASK IN THE BACKYARD? RIGHT.

THAT THAT FRONTS THE POOL. IS. IS THAT JUST TURF, OR IS THAT THE PAVERS AS WELL? BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE AND THE WALKWAYS, THAT WILL BE ACTUAL LAWN.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT'LL BE THE KIDS PLAY AREA. IS THAT REAL GRASS OR IS THAT.

YEAH. THAT'S THE INTENT IS TO HAVE REAL GRASS. YES. WOW. YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S VERY UNIQUE WITH RIGHT BUTTING UP AGAINST THE POOL.

OKAY. YEAH. I'M SORRY. WERE YOU FINISHED OR I MEANT TO.

YEAH. NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS, BUT THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THIS CURRENT HOUSE CARLOS GILL AND HIS FAMILY, HE BUILT IT FOR HIS FAMILY AND HIS THREE SONS.

AND ONE OF THE SONS ENDED UP BEING A LAND USE ATTORNEY.

YES, HE WAS. THAT WORKED WITH ALL OF YOU? YES.

SO IT'S COMING AROUND. I KNOW I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THIS.

FOND MEMORIES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, THE PAVERS WAS MY QUESTION.

AND THEN THE THE POOL LAWN. BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

THANK YOU. I LOVE HOW IT SITS WITHIN THE LAND, AND IT REALLY, IT REALLY WORKS WELL WITH THE LANDSCAPING.

SO. YES, I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ADAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I AGREE. I THINK IT'S VERY NICE AND I'M FOR IT.

I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF. WOULD WOULD YOUR OPINION CHANGE IF THE LOT SIZE WAS SMALLER? LIKE YES, LIKELY IF IF THE LOT SIZE WERE THE MINIMUM ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT.

AND THERE WERE SMALLER SETBACKS. WE OUR OPINION MAY CHANGE.

WE MAY, WE MAY, MAYBE WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAIVER, BUT WE WOULD ASK THEM FOR MORE SETBACKS AT THE UPPER LEVEL OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. BUT I THINK GIVEN THE SCALE OF THIS LOT, IT WORKS WELL WITH, WITH THE PROPOSED HEIGHT.

I AGREE, AND THANKS FOR HAVING THE NEIGHBORS.

SIGNATURE. I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I AGREE, I THINK THAT THIS IS LOVELY.

YOU DID A GOOD, VERY THOUGHTFUL JOB RELATING TO THE SITE AND THE DEMANDS OF THE OWNERS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO THANK YOU. I ALSO REALLY I LOVE THE TONES AND THE TRAVERTINE.

IT'S VERY REFRESHING. I HAD A SUGGESTION THAT I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF ANY OTHER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO WEIGH IN AND IT ACTUALLY HAD TO DO WITH.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THIS DESIGN IS THIS IS THIS FLOW AND THAT WHICH, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEMS SO APPROPRIATE FOR A WATERFRONT HOME.

AND I LIKE THAT YOU HAD SAID THAT SOME OF THE CORNERS, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S IN THE BACK, THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE CURVED WINDOWS AS OPPOSED TO DID YOU SAY THAT SOME OF THE WINDOWS WOULD BE CURVED? THE WINDOW, THE WINDOWS WON'T BE CURVED. WE HAVE ONE SMALL PORTION OF RAILING THAT'S CURVED, BUT YEAH, NOT THE WINDOWS BECAUSE THAT'S EXPENSIVE ANYWAY.

SO BUT I THINK IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL MAYBE PLANS THAT YOU SUBMITTED AND IT COULD HAVE ALSO BEEN A RENDERING TRANSLATION ISSUE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS PAGE.

SO I NOTED IN YOUR MATERIALS THAT IT'S HARD TO.

TOP IT'S PAGE 18. PAGE 18. ON PAGE 18. THERE ARE MORE RENDERINGS LIKE THIS.

THE THE ALUMINUM FINISH IS MUCH, MUCH LIGHTER.

AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER RANDOM. AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS INTENTIONAL. THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THE OTHER DAY OF IS IT THE DARK OR IS IT THE LIGHT I SEE HERE THAT YOU'VE MADE SAID THIS IS MY SUGGESTION WAS GOING TO BE THAT I ACTUALLY LIKED THE LIGHTER COLOR. THE REASON WHY WAS THAT I FEEL LIKE THE DARK, THE CONTRAST INTERRUPTS THAT FLOW.

OKAY. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE REAR, WHICH IS NOT DEPICTED HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF THROW THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT I THINK AS A WAY, I WANT TO SEE MORE HORIZONTAL FLOW MOVEMENT AS OPPOSED TO STATIC VERTICAL. RIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT WAS JUST GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

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WELL, AND I THINK IT INTERRUPTS IT, YOU KNOW, IT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THE DARKER JUST SORT OF INTERRUPTS THAT MOVEMENT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT I WASN'T SURE IF THE HOMEOWNERS HAD A PREFERENCE.

THE OWNERS DEFINITELY HAVE A PREFERENCE. AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT RENDERINGS TO GET THE COLOR CORRECT. IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING THING TO DO.

GET THE EXACT SUN HITTING THE METAL, HAVING IT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO LOOK.

SO WE EXPLORED THAT QUITE A BIT. I WOULD BE OPEN TO WORKING WITH STAFF AND EXPLORING THAT A BIT MORE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOLD OFF THE PROJECT WITH.

AND AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT.

AND IF AGAIN, IF THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE A VERY STRONG PREFERENCE, I JUST WANTED TO CONVEY FROM MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT IF THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT, IF THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN IS TO REALLY SHOWCASE THE FLOW, AND I THINK THAT THE HORIZONTAL LINES ARE MORE INTERESTING THAN THE VERTICAL.

OKAY, SO THAT WAS JUST A PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

YEAH, WE'LL SPEAK WITH THE OWNERS AND MAYBE I CAN THINK ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION ABOUT THE METAL FINISH.

THAT'S ALL THE MULLIONS. I MEAN, THE ACTUAL SAMPLE IS A LITTLE MORE ON THE SOFTER CHAMPAGNE THAN THAN THE RENDERING, WHICH IS GOOD, AND IT VARIES VERY MUCH BY THE LIGHT, HOW IT HITS.

IF IT'S IN SHADOW, IT LOOKS DARKER. IF THE SUN'S DIRECTLY ON IT, IT LOOKS A LOT LIGHTER.

I THOUGHT, SARAH, YOU WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LIKE THE EDGE OF THE THE EDGE OF THE OVERHANG STARTING TO SOFTEN.

SOFTEN EDGES AND CORNERS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FOR THE HOUSE.

YEAH. OH YEAH. I MEAN AGAIN I WOULD, I WOULD GO WITH THE LIKE I SAID I LIKE THE FLOW AND ANYTHING THAT'S SORT OF STRICTLY VERTICAL THAT'S INTERRUPTING THAT. YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD.

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO CONTRAST COLORS THAN IT IS TO SORT OF MATCH THEM.

SO AND I DO THINK IT IS INTERESTING TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIAL.

THE TRAVERTINE IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ALUMINUM.

VERY DARK, RIGHT? AND EVEN THE ONE BELOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DARKER TOO, BECAUSE OF THE SHADOW.

ANYWAY, THAT THAT WAS JUST MY. WHAT IS YOUR INTENT? WHAT'S YOUR STORY? WE DO GET A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARCHITECT IS SAYING FROM THEM, BUT THIS ONE DEFINITELY HAS A POINT OF VIEW, AND CHANGING THAT DETAIL A LITTLE, I THINK, WILL BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR POINT OF VIEW A LITTLE BIT MORE STRONGLY, BUT AGAIN. WE CAN GET SAMPLES WE CAN PRESENT WITH STAFF.

AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD OH LET ME YOU'D MENTIONED THAT WOULD THE WOULD IT'S THAT THE SIBO THAT'S THE WOOD PRODUCT.

YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAS JUST AND THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDER THE EAVES.

IS THAT WOOD OR ALUMINUM IN ALUMINUM WITH THE FAUX FINISH.

IT ACTUALLY HAS THE TEXTURE TO IT. OH NICE. THIS IS A VERY INTENSE FABRICATION PROCESS COMES FROM JAPAN.

AND IT'S IT'S THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN. WE'VE USED IT A FEW TIMES.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. IT'S REALLY FOR A MAINTENANCE THING.

YOU KNOW, THE WOOD DOWN HERE TENDS TO GET CRUSHED.

SO A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL PUT THEM ON SOFFITS SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING DIRECT SUN AND JUST NOT HAVING TO COME AND SAND AND TREAT THE WOOD FOR THE OWNERS.

OFTEN HELPFUL. YEAH. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION THAT WAS MORE REGARDING THE HEIGHT WAIVER.

I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE THE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU ADDED.

YOU KNOW, WITH THE IF THERE WAS A ROOF DECK, IF THERE WAS AN UNDERSTORY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S HELPFUL. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY HARDSHIP RELATED WITH THIS WAIVER OR IS IT JUST SORT OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE? YOU WANTED MORE HEIGHT. INTERIOR. INTERIOR. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HARDSHIP THAT'S TYPICALLY AND USED FOR VARIANCES.

SO THIS IS A DESIGN WAIVER. AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW THE ENTIRE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR RELATION TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. THE GEOMETRY OF THE LOT.

YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR FIRST STORY, SECOND STORY AND YOUR SETBACKS ARE.

BUT I THINK THE BEAUTIFUL THING THAT CODY HAS DESIGNED HERE IS THOSE LOWER EAVES, RIGHT? THE THE LOWER EAVES THEMSELVES ARE HELPING TO BE BELOW THE ACTUAL ROOFTOP SO THAT IT HELPS TO FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? MINIMIZE THE SCALE AND MASSING OF THE HOME ALL BY ITSELF.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS OF WHILE WE'RE USING SOME FREEBOARD FOR RESILIENCY, WE'RE NOT USING THE MAXIMUM FREEBOARD. WE'RE NOT GOING UP MUCH HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING GRADE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY HABITABLE ROOF DECK, RIGHT.

SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL YOU KNOW, THE ELEVATOR BULKHEAD AND RAILINGS AND PLANTERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD THEN ADD TO THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME WE'RE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DECIDING PURPOSELY NOT TO DO THAT.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WELL, ON THE SIDES OF THAT, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE OF LANDSCAPING.

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SO HAVING THAT AS A, AS A, AGAIN, A GOOD CONTEXT FOR US TO PLACE THIS IN, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT COLLECTIVELY FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE HARDSHIP IS A VARIANCE STANDARD.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE. AND YET SOME OF THE SAME TYPE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE NON-PARALLEL LOT LINES, RIGHT. WEDGE SHAPED PROPERTIES HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.

WE DIDN'T DO A HOME THAT IS THE SAME LENGTH ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY WITH WHERE TO PUT THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW ON ALL THESE CUTOUTS TO I THINK ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, MAKING THIS, AGAIN, A MORE COMPATIBLE HOME WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOMES ADJACENT TO IT, I THINK THE TWO TO THE NORTH ARE MUCH LOWER, EVEN THOUGH THE ONE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS FOR 21, SEEMS TO BE A NEWER HOME.

BUT MUCH LOWER. OR HOW DOES THIS COMPARE YOUR PROPOSED HEIGHT OF 27FT HIGH COMPARED TO THE HOME AND TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS 421? SAN MARINO BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT ELEVATION ON PAGE EIGHT, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S NEARLY TEN FEET TALLER. SO THIS PROPOSED ELEVATION WOULD BE TEN FEET TALLER THAN THE HOME ON 421. OH, I'M SORRY TO 421. TO THE HOME TO THE NORTH OF US.

YES. OH. I'M SORRY. THAT IS. THE LARGER HOME ON THE NORTH IS ABOUT THREE.

WE'RE ABOUT THREE FEET TALLER THAN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THREE FEET TALLER THAN TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S A NEWER HOME.

OKAY. WHICH IS A NEW HOME. YEAH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE TWO TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS 409 AND 405, ARE WAY LOWER.

WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE CEILINGS ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR, 12FT AND 11FT.

12FT FOR THE FIRST AND 11 FOR THE SECOND. OKAY, SO IF YOU WERE TO BE AT THE SAME HEIGHT, YOU WOULD NOT AT 27, YOU WOULD BE AT THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS FOR 21, AND YOU STILL WOULD HAVE NICE CEILING HEIGHTS ON BOTH FLOORS.

YOU'RE SAYING IF WE WERE TO DROP AND NOT GO TO FREEBOARD PLUS THREE? NO. IF YOU INSTEAD OF 20 INSTEAD OF 27, WE WENT TO 24.

YOU WENT TO 24, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM FLAT ROOF HEIGHT.

YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE VARIANCE. YOU WOULD STILL THE WAIVER.

I'M SORRY. AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE SUFFICIENT CEILING HEIGHT ON BOTH THE FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE 11 AND 12, CORRECT? YEAH. WE WOULD BE LOSING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CEILING HEIGHT BY DOING THAT.

YEAH. BUT YOU WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO THE OTHER HOME.

THIS IS A VERY SMALL AREA IN SAN MARINO, AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THIS NEIGHBOR.

WE SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE NEWER HOME, AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF OUR WAIVER, AND THAT'S WHO WE HAVE THE THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM TODAY.

SO THEY ARE THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR PROPOSED HEIGHT.

I JUST PERSONALLY THERE'S A REASON FOR THE MAXIMUM OF 24.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO ALTER THE DESIGN EXCEPT FOR THE CEILING HEIGHT INSIDE THE WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING CEILINGS OF 11 AND 12, YOU MAY HAVE TEN AND 11 OR 10 AND TEN. I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, WHICH STILL LEAVES A NICE CEILING HEIGHT.

BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE OUTSIDE DESIGN, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL.

BY NOT GRANTING THIS, THIS WAIVER ARE YOU ALWAYS ONE MORE? JUST GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION OF THE WINDOWS, I ACTUALLY IN CONTRAST WITH HER, I ALWAYS LIKED THE DARKER WINDOW FRAMES MULLIONS BECAUSE TO ME IT JUST LOOKS MORE ELEGANT.

BUT THAT'S A MATTER OF TASTE. AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE OWNERS ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE, SO IT'S REALLY WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE MAY BE. THERE IS ONE ELEMENT TO THE DESIGN WE DO HAVE THAT THE SECOND FLOOR SLAB, WHICH IS CONTINUOUS WITH THE ROOF ELEVATION HEIGHT THAT IS REALLY AT THAT, THAT HIGHER ELEVATION, BECAUSE WE'RE UTILIZING THAT EAVE, THAT OVERHANG ABOVE THE GARAGE TO TOTALLY CONCEAL OUR CONDENSING UNITS, OUR GENERATOR, EVERYTHING. SO THAT'S ALL TOTALLY TUCKED INTO A LITTLE NOOK.

AND IF WE WERE TO LOSE THAT THREE FEET OF HEIGHT, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE EXPOSED.

THAT IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN ABOVE THE GARAGE.

WHAT PAGE ARE WE? LET ME SEE. I KNOW THAT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT HARDER TO WORK WITH THE OVERHEAD MAPS IF YOU OH, YEAH. DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY. I WOULDN'T WANT TO LOSE THAT THREE FEET.

YEAH. ALL THE WAY TO PAGE 26. I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING TO THE GARAGE WAS THE ONE STRUCTURE THAT DID SEEM.

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RIGHT. AND AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS IT'S AN ATYPICAL WAY OF YOU KNOW, SHIELDING AND SCREENING YOUR ALL YOUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.

RIGHT. THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY TO PUT IT IN THE SIDE YARDS.

WE HAVE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT AND INSTEAD PUT IT ON TOP OF WHERE IS THE MECHANICAL.

SO ON THE LEFT SIDE, THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS ON THE ESSENTIALLY THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE, BUT TUCKED AWAY AND HIDDEN WHICH IS GOOD FOR SCREENING, GOOD FOR NOISE REDUCTION, ALL THOSE ELEMENTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE REST OF THE ACTUALLY UPPER ROOF IS ENTIRELY DEVOID OF EVERYTHING, ANY AND ALL, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO INCREASE IN HEIGHT ABOVE AT ALL.

OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, BY THE WAY, DOES HAVE A ROOF DECK.

SO THAT ADDS TO THE MASS AND, YOU KNOW, HABITABLE SPACE UP THERE WITH THE RAILINGS AND ALL.

SO THERE'S NOTHING ON OUR UPPER ROOF, WHICH AGAIN, HELPS TO FURTHER STREAMLINE, YOU KNOW, THIS TO BE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN TO THE HOME TO THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A MUCH OLDER HOME SO BUILT YOU KNOW, BELOW TODAY'S STANDARDS BY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO AT LEAST THREE, IF NOT 4 TO 5FT BECAUSE THE AGE OF MOST OF THE OLDER HOMES, YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE CITY IS IN A, IN A MODE OF, FOR RESILIENCY PURPOSES, RAISING SIDEWALKS, RAISING STREETS.

SO EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THAT HOUSE IS REDEVELOPED, IT WILL ALSO NEED TO BE MUCH HIGHER AND THEREFORE BE MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE WITH, WITH OUR HOME. SO SO THIS IS THE THIS IS PAGE 15.

THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE FRONT OF THE HOME.

THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS BASICALLY ON TOP OF THIS GARAGE OVER HERE.

CORRECT. OKAY. BUT IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET OR ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

SO IF THIS GARAGE WERE LOWER, IT COULD STILL HAVE THAT DESIGN ON THE TOP.

AND YOU COULD SEE THE TOP OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH I DO NOT LIKE.

AND THAT WOULD ALSO MAYBE PUSH ME TO HAVE TO PUT IT ONTO THE ROOF, WHICH I WOULD ALSO NOT PREFER.

HOW HIGH IS THE CEILING IN THE GARAGE NOW? I BELIEVE IT IS.

WE HAVE NINE FEET, 8 OR 8 OR NINE FEET. THE ACTUAL CEILING HEIGHT IN THE GARAGE IS NOT THAT TALL, AND WE WERE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THAT SIMPLY SO WE COULD CONCEAL ALL OF OUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ABOVE IT, BECAUSE THAT GARAGE SEEMS TO BE HIGHER THAN THE FIRST.

IT IS HIGHER THAN THE FIRST FLOOR AND ALMOST AS HIGH AS THE SECOND FLOOR.

YEAH, I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS. AND AGAIN, I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS JUST THE ANGLE WITH WHICH THE RENDERING WAS, BUT YEAH, THAT WAS AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE ELEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE INTERACTING WITH THE DEPICTION OF THE SECTION.

THE THE ELEVATION OF THE LAND IS LOWER, SO THE GARAGE IS TALLER, BUT THE UNITS ARE SET, SET LOWER.

BUT HE'S TRYING TO CONTINUE THE EAVE FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

SO IF WE SHORTEN THE CEILING HEIGHT ON ONE, IT BRINGS IT BRINGS THAT AND THEN THEN THE UNITS THEN STICK UP LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S A CREATIVE WAY OF HIDING THE EQUIPMENT AND GETTING IT AWAY FROM THE SIDELINES AND SETBACKS.

WE HAVE A GOOD SECTION ON PAGE 30, 3030. YES, TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PACKAGE.

SO HERE. RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGE WHICH ITSELF IS LOWER, WHICH HELPS AGAIN AS YOU APPROACH FROM THE STREET, EVEN IF THERE WAS NO LANDSCAPING BUT THE EQUIPMENT ON THE TOP.

NOW YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SECOND FLOOR LINES UP AND IS HELPFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT PROPERLY SCREENED.

IT ALSO EXPLAINS WHY IT SEEMED TO US THAT THAT WHY IS THAT RIGHT? SO IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE CONTINUITY. THE CONTINUITY.

THE WAVES OF THOSE CURVES ARE CONTINUOUS FROM THE MAIN HOUSE TO THE GARAGE, WHICH IF THOSE WERE AT A DIFFERENT ELEVATION, THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE ELEMENT, WHICH I THINK WOULD MAKE THE ARCHITECTURE A BIT LESS.

WHAT EQUIPMENT ARE YOU ARE YOU PLACING ON TOP OF THE CONDENSING UNITS AND GENERATOR? OKAY. SO IT'S THE GENERATOR THAT'S REALLY REQUESTING THE HEIGHT BECAUSE IT'S HIGHER THAN THE CONDENSING UNITS.

WE HAVEN'T PER SE THE. YEAH, THE GENERATOR WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, A LITTLE BIT TALLER.

BUT YEAH, THE CONDENSING UNITS, THE NEWER VERSIONS HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TALLER AS WELL.

SO THE DELTA BETWEEN THOSE IS NOT THAT YOU HAVE UNITS THAT DON'T YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT AGAINST THE WALL AND THEY'RE LIKE THE MINI SPLIT CONDENSING UNITS IN SIZE, AND THEY ARE NOWHERE IN, YOU KNOW, MUCH SMALLER THAN THIS, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING NOW BECAUSE OF THE BULKINESS OF A REGULAR CONDENSING UNIT LIKE THIS, ONE OF PUTTING IT ON A SIDE SETBACK WHERE THEY CANNOT PUT IT, OR PUTTING IT IN THE FRONT OF A LAWN OR THE BACK OF A LAWN.

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BUT I YOU'RE VERY CREATIVE, AND I THINK IT CAN BE ARRANGED WITH A LOWER WITHOUT THE THREE ADDITIONAL FEET THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. AND ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THE ADDITIONAL FEET WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ON THE OLDER HOMES? YES. WELL, AT THIS POINT IT IS ON THE OLDER HOMES, ON THE OLDER HOMES THAT ARE THERE AND ALSO ACROSS THE STREET AND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT CORNER THERE, THAT TURN IS VERY TIGHT. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS MAXIMUM HEIGHT.

AND IF EVERY TIME YOU KNOW SOMEONE WANTS THREE MORE FEET OR TWO MORE FEET, WE GRANT IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE DESIGN IT CAN HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

YOU CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD A MECHANICAL ROOM WITH THE SIZE OF LOT AND YET NOT HAVE REQUIRED THIS.

SO THAT'S MY. HI. MY NAME. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS MATTHEW LEWIS.

ON THE LANDSCAPE SIDE. I WOULD JUST SAY IF IF YOU EXCUSE ME, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE THE LANDSCAPE SPECS THAT WE'RE PROMOTING, WHICH IS HEAVILY NATIVE NATIVE UNDERSTORY TREES.

AND THEN WE HAVE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 CLEAR TRUNK PALM TREES THAT ARE RUNNING DOWN THE SIDE.

I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SEE THIS HOUSE UNLESS YOU'RE PERHAPS ON THE BAY.

WE HAVE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL LAYERING, ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING, OF LANDSCAPE ALONG THE FRONT, ALONG THE SIDES, AND EVEN IN THE BACK. SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE HOUSE, IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSE SITTING ON A PLAN LIKE IN AN ARCHITECTURE STUDIO, BUT IT'S SITTING WITHIN A CONTEXT OF THIS VERY LUSH, DYNAMIC AND NATIVE LANDSCAPE. AND THEN AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE THERE IS THERE IS SOME LANDSCAPING OR SOME HIGHER SORT OF TREES OR SHORTER TREES IN FRONT OF THIS GARAGE THAT WE'LL SEE.

YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING, FOR EXAMPLE. YEAH.

BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT THE, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO SEE THE STRUCTURE, YOU'D CHANGE THE RENDERING LANDSCAPES AREN'T EXACT.

THERE'S AN EXISTING POWER LINE HERE AND PLANT A TREE HERE.

BUT I THINK I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE DILEMMA BETWEEN SHOWING WHAT YOU WANT TO SHOW THE ARCHITECTURE.

BUT THE REALITY IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREEN BUCKET LIST TO SIT LIKE THIS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LIKE THE EDGES OF THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE SCREENED NOT ONLY AT THE FRONT BUT ALONG THE SIDES.

AND THESE ARE THE PATHS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT JUST AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS VISIBLE FROM THE FRONT, OBVIOUSLY MORE VISIBLE FROM THE BACK WHEN YOU'RE IN THE WATERWAY.

BUT IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S. WE SET OF GRANTING WAIVERS FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE FEET TO HIDE EQUIPMENT, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE HOUSE.

ACTUALLY, MAYBE TO ADDRESS YOUR. IT'S VERY IT'S VERY FLUSH.

I MEAN, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT MUCH FROM THE STREET AT ALL BECAUSE OF YOUR LANDSCAPING, WHICH IS LOVELY.

MYRA, I AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THAT IN MY FIRST QUESTION TO STAFF WAS THIS IS AN OVERSIZE LOT, AND I THINK THESE GUYS DID A REALLY NICE JOB OF A DESIGN HERE.

AND FIRST THING I LOOKED AT WAS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU NEED 11 FOOT CEILINGS IN THE BEDROOMS? OKAY. IT'S IT'S GRACIOUS. IT'S IT'S NICE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE A FOOT OFF OF THIS JUST BECAUSE.

SO GIVEN THE LANDSCAPING THAT THAT MATT'S TALKING ABOUT AND THE DESIGN, I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT.

ARE WE JUST THROWING THREE FEET OUT? AND THAT'S WHY IF THIS WAS A REGULAR LOT WITH A HOUSE THAT NOBODY DESIGNED WELL, AND THEY WERE TRYING TO MAX IT OUT AND THERE WASN'T ANY ARCHITECTURAL CREATIVITY TO IT, I WOULD I WOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'VE BEEN I FEEL I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN THOUGHT TO THIS.

AGAIN, 11FT IS A LOT, BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, TEN FEET FOR A BEDROOM IS FINE, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M OKAY WITH WITH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, IN MY OPINION. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I'M NOW GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE I'M GOING TO DIRECT IT AT THEM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

BUT PLEASE REFRAIN BECAUSE I, I WANT ADAM'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK YOU THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS WAS PART OF IT'S NOT JUST THIS THING OVER THE GARAGE,

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IS IS NICE. YOU KNOW, A TEN FOOT IS I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T WANT LESS THAN TEN FEET.

AND ON A BEDROOM. THIS HOUSE, I DON'T THINK I WOULDN'T WANT NINE FOOT CEILINGS.

SO GIVEN THE THREE FEET, IF WE'RE TAKING A FOOT OFF OF THE GROUND LEVEL, WE'RE BRINGING THAT TO 11, AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE TWO FEET OFF OF OFF OF THE THE 11FT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S COMPROMISING THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSE.

WILL IT STILL BE GRACIOUS AND NICE? BUT I THINK THEY'RE JUST OVER THERE.

JUST OVER WHAT I WOULD BE. THEY'RE. THEY'RE GOING FOR IT.

YEAH, THEY'RE JUST OVER IT. RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON THE HEIGHT OF A GARAGE FROM THE LIKE, THE INTERIOR OR THE EXTERIOR? THE INTERIOR FOR THE INTERIOR.

YOU DEFINITELY NEED AT LEAST NINE FEET FOR FOR A GARAGE TO GET THE DOORS OPEN TO GET STORAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE JUST AT THAT FOR THE INTERIOR I HAVE. OTHERWISE THE DOOR COMES DOWN AND IT IT GETS CRAMPED.

NINE IS THIS MINIMUM? OKAY. MAY I ADD ONE? THIS IS HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT YEAH, IT COMES UP A LOT WITH THESE HOMES. AND I'VE ALWAYS I PERSONALLY HAVE ALWAYS WANTED SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE GET ASKED FOR THESE HEIGHT WAIVERS.

AND AND PROBABLY CODY WOULD AGREE WITH ME, BUT THIS IS INDOOR OUTDOOR LIVING.

SO ON THE GROUND LEVEL WE WE WANT THE HEIGHT TO EXTEND TO THE OUTSIDE.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE OUTSIDE AND BE SITTING UNDER SOMETHING LOW.

THE AIRFLOW ISN'T THAT NICE. AND THEN THEN THE GROUND IS SLOPING DOWN TO THE SEAWALL AND WE WANT THE HOUSE TO OPEN UP LIKE THIS.

SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T A THESE ARE GIANT ROOMS EITHER.

SO MY MY OPINION IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED 11FT IN THE BEDROOMS, BUT THAT DOWNSTAIRS LEVEL IS, IS OKAY. THIS IS A HOUSE THAT IS PROPOSED AT 6400FT².

SO IT'S NOT SMALL BY NO MEANS. AND UNIT SIZE, IF I MAY.

IF I MAY ADD THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS ON A LARGER LOT.

WHILE NEW, WHAT DID COME IN FOR A WAIVER? THEY ACTUALLY WERE GRANTED A TWO FOOT WAIVER.

AND THE RESILIENCY RULES. RIGHT. BEING ABOVE WITH FREEBOARD WASN'T YET IN EFFECT AT THE TIME.

SO THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE REASON WHY THAT HOME IS THREE FEET LOWER IS LOWER THAN OURS.

OKAY. SO BUT IF THEY WERE TO GO IN TODAY, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE COME HERE SIMILARLY AND OBVIOUSLY HAD BEEN GRANTED THAT WAIVER FOR SIMILAR REASONS, I'M SURE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE THE HOME SIZE BREATHE APPROPRIATELY.

YEAH. WE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE ISSUES TWOFOLD IN A 6400 SQUARE FOOT HOME, I THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SPACE ALLOCATED FOR MECHANICAL ROOM TO HOUSE EQUIPMENT.

YOU KNOW, BE IT THE COMPRESSORS AND THE GENERATOR, WHAT HAVE YOU.

I ALSO, I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU. THIS HOUSE IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AT GROUND LEVEL. SO EVEN ON THE GROUND FLOOR IN THE BACK, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THE WATERWAY BEHIND YOU, THE CANAL. AND YOU'LL SEE THE WATERWAY BEHIND YOU, BECAUSE YOU'LL BE AT A MUCH HIGHER OR AT SOME AMOUNT OF HIGHER FLOORING.

BUT YOU'LL ALSO BE LOOKING INTO THE HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CANAL ARE GOING TO BE FACING YOU.

SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND MY CONCERN IS JUST THE PRECEDENT THAT WE SET OF CONTINUING TO GRANT WAIVERS AND VARIANCES. BUT IN THIS CASE A WAIVER, WHEN IN FACT THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE IN THIS LOT AND ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THIS UNIT SIZE THAT A MECHANICAL AREA COULD HAVE BEEN ACCOMMODATED.

I KIND OF THINK THAT YOU'RE I DON'T KNOW, I DISAGREE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S YOU'RE MAYBE GIVING A MORE OF A VARIANCE STANDARD HERE.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S LEEWAY HERE FOR US TO, TO WAIVE THIS.

AND SO THIS IS THIS WIGGLE ROOM AND SORT OF LIKE ADAM SAID, THE JUST THE WAY THAT THEY'VE APPROACHED THE MASSING AND THE EAVES, BRINGING IT DOWN EVEN ON THE GARAGE, LIKE THE WAY THE LANDSCAPING IS FALLING, IT'S IT'S EVERYTHING IS BRINGING THIS BACK DOWN TO EARTH.

SO I, LIKE YOU SAID THEY PUT THOUGHT INTO IT.

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SO I I'M OKAY WITH IT. THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THIS.

AND I WILL ALSO SAY TOO, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO ROOF DECK ON THIS.

AND I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE ALL THE TIME.

AND THAT PUTS ME EACH TIME WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT.

LIKE, THAT'S THE THING. IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU WANT THIS WAIVER AND NOW YOU WANT A ROOF DECK OR EVEN HAVING IT AND THAT REALLY AND THEY'RE ALWAYS SET BACK, ETC., ETC. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE ROOF DECKS.

AND THE, THE TERMS OF WITH THE MECHANICAL, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS IT THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT IT'S ALSO THE ADDITIONAL THREE FEET. IT'S THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT ON THE IN THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE MECHANICAL. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE DESIGN IS SORT OF DEPENDENT ON THESE HEIGHTS, THE DESIGN THROUGHOUT, NOT JUST THE MECHANICAL. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I SEE WHAT AND I SEE WHAT LAURA IS SAYING.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO ON THE ONE HAND, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE THESE ROOF DECKS AND TO MINIMIZE THE HEIGHT AND THE IMPACT THAT WAY. AND THIS PROJECT IS ACHIEVING THAT THREE FEET.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ROOM FOR WIGGLE ROOM. WE COULD DECIDE IT COULD JUST BE A TWO FOOT WAVER.

YOU KNOW, MY ALSO BIG CONCERN OVERALL, REGARDLESS, IS THAT THIS HOUSE IS GOING TO BE EVEN TALLER THAN THE NEW HOUSE NEXT DOOR THAT WAS ALREADY GRANTED WAIVERS. AND I KNOW THAT THE CODES HAVE CHANGED. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL QUITE A FEW HOMES, AND THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME THAT ARE SHORTER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND SO HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS BUILDING THAT'S NOW GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE TALLEST ONE IN THIS AREA? HOW DO YOU MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS? WHICH SEEMS TO BE MY BIG CONCERN.

SO ALSO THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE CANAL, THE OTHER ISLAND BEFORE THEM.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE COULD SAY WILL GRANT YOU, YOU KNOW, A TWO FOOT WAIVER OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS IN OUR PURVIEW TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES, NO.

YOU KNOW, A VARIATION LIKE THERE HAS TO BE A COMPROMISE.

AND IF WE JUST WERE TO GIVE IT A TWO, YOU KNOW, A TEN FOOT CEILING, YOU KNOW, ON THE SECOND FLOOR STILL HAS THAT LUXURY FEEL TO IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND FROM THE OUTSIDE, I DO VERY STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT EVERY INCH MATTERS AND IT IS SOME IMPACT.

ONE FOOT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING IS SO HIGH TO BEGIN WITH.

SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THIS. ROGELIO.

THERE'S FIVE OF US HERE. DO THEY NEED A FIVE VOTE? WAIVERS ONLY REQUIRE FOUR VOTES. OKAY. SO IT SEEMS I'M THE ONLY ONE OPPOSING THIS.

SO AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE LAST TIME AND THERE WAS A WHOLE BOARD.

SO IF IF I'M THE ONLY ONE OPPOSED, THEY CAN STILL, IT SEEMS IT CAN PASS WITH THE OTHER WITH MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HERE.

SO MY YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS.

I DON'T NEED TO REITERATE THEM. SO AND I DON'T WANT I JUST DID NOT WANT THEM TO BE PENALIZED BECAUSE WE HAD TO COME TODAY AND HAVE A MUCH SMALLER BOARD. THANK YOU. SO MAYBE I CAN DIRECT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION.

YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT WE CAN DENY THE WE CAN DENY THE WAIVER.

WE CAN GRANT IT IN FULL. WE CAN GRANT IT PARTIALLY, WHATEVER THAT IS.

WHOEVER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION DOESN'T SAY A MOTION TO GRANT THE FULL WAIVER.

JUST REPEAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. YEAH. OKAY. MOTION BY MR. LEICESTER, SECOND BY MISS LEWIN. THAT'S MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? DO YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL? WE CAN DO. OH, YES. THAT'S PROBABLY BEST. YES.

MISS BUTTACAVOLI. NO, SORRY. NO. MISS NELSON.

YES, MR.. LESTER. YES, MISS LEWIN? YES. MR. MESHBERG? YES. MOTION PASSES. I SHOULD ALSO, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS THE TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF OR EXAMINE THE DIFFERENT THE LIGHTER SHADE? YES. CORRECT. WE WILL DO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ARGUMENTS. I REALLY I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY WELL.

JUST FOR CLARITY, THERE'S ALREADY A CONDITION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE FINAL COLOR AND DESIGN OF THE ALL THE SPECIFIC MATERIALS, INCLUDING THE METAL. OH, IT'S NOT ISN'T IT USUALLY THAT THE MATERIALS THAT YOU PRESENT TO US IS WHAT STAYS NOT A WORK WITH STAFF.

WE SUBJECT TO. WELL, WE MAKE WE WRITE THE CONDITION SUBJECT TO THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD SO THAT IF YOU PROVIDE DIRECTION TO DARKEN IT,

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BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING NOW IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO STICK TO OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO.

WELL, YOU'VE GIVEN US SOME DIRECTION TO TO ANALYZE IT AND SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER OPTION.

SO. OKAY. SO WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN JUST I GUESS IN GENERAL TOO, I WAS ALWAYS GOING THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN APPLICANTS PRESENTED THE MATERIALS BOARD AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED, IT HAD TO BE THOSE MATERIALS THAT WERE IN.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT SOMETIMES WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PLAN IS NOT AS DETAILED AS IT, AS IT IS ONCE THE ACTUAL BUILDING PERMIT COMES IN.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY DO COME IN FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, THAT IT DOES MATCH, THAT IT DOES, IN FACT MATCH WHAT WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE MILLIONS OF WINDOW FRAMES.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE FINISHES IN GENERAL.

YEAH. IN GENERAL, WE MAKE SURE THAT IT FOLLOWS.

IT FOLLOWS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. YEAH. I THINK IN GENERAL IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW THIS BECAUSE WE'RE HERE FOR DESIGN.

AND IF IT CHANGES DRAMATICALLY THEN OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DESIGN.

ROGELIO. PAGE TWO OF THE MEMO. THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE SAYS 30FT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE 27. RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT'S A TYPO.

YES. RIGHT ABOVE THAT IT SAYS YEAH. YES, YES.

YEAH. AND THE ORDER IS CORRECT. THE ORDER DOES SAY I THINK IT'S CORRECT.

THE WAY I READ IT. ANYWAY, THE ORDER HAS IT PROPERLY.

IT SAYS IT'S 27FT ABOVE DFA. RIGHT. WELL WE'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

THE ORDER D1A SAYS IT'S A THREE FOOT WAIVER SHALL BE APPROVED FOR A FLAT ROOF HEIGHT OF 27.

YES. OKAY. THAT'S AS PER OUR DRAWINGS. WE HAVE 20 REPORTS THIS MONTH PLUS FIVE FOR VOA.

THAT'S ALL. EXACTLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND NOW FINALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

DRB 20 5-1117101 COLLINS AVENUE. THIS APPLICATION IS REQUESTING THE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE

[2. DRB25-1117, 8101 COLLINS AVENUE.]

MIAMI BEACH LOG CABIN BUILDING WITH AN EXTERIOR PATIO TO BE LOCATED IN A VACANT AREA WITH THE NORTH BEACH OCEANSIDE PARK.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A A AN APPLICATION BEING PROPOSED BY THE BY THE CITY.

THIS IS TO CREATE A LOG CABIN WITHIN NORTH SHORE NORTH BEACH OCEANSIDE PARK, WHICH USED TO BE NORTH SHORE OCEAN OPEN SPACE PARK. I BELIEVE THE NAME CHANGED RECENTLY.

SO THIS THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PAYING HOMAGE TO THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN STRUCTURE THAT USED TO EXIST IN THE WEST.

LOTS. THAT STRUCTURE HAD TO BE DISMANTLED IN 2017.

A LOT OF THE PIECES OF THAT STRUCTURE WERE KEPT IN STORAGE.

THE LOGS, THE CHIMNEY, AND SEVERAL OTHER ELEMENTS WERE KEPT IN STORAGE.

THE STRUCTURE WAS WAS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE. IT COULD NO LONGER STAND.

SO THEY SO THEY SO THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DID AND AND KEPT THE PIECES IN STORAGE.

SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO, TO CREATE A NEW LOG CABIN IN THE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE PARK.

THE LOG CABIN IS BEING DESIGNED IN A SIMILAR FASHION TO THE ORIGINAL.

HOWEVER, IT WILL HAVE AN OPEN TERRACE ALONG ITS PERIMETER THAT I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN DID NOT HAVE.

AS PART OF THIS NEW LOG CABIN THEY'LL BE REUSING THE CHIMNEY AND, AND SEVERAL OF THE WOOD ELEMENTS THAT EXISTED IN THE PRIOR LOG CABIN TO CREATE ARCHITECTURAL ACCENTS, TO CREATE FURNITURE ON THE INTERIOR, TO PAY HOMAGE TO THAT STRUCTURE.

ADDITIONALLY, IN THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE, THEY'RE PLANNING ON ON PROVIDING ELEMENTS TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN STRUCTURE. SO THE, THE YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGES, A STANDARD, STANDARD LOG CABIN STRUCTURE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A STONE CHIMNEY IN THE CENTER.

THE ROOF WILL CONSIST OF A DARK GRAY SEAMED METAL, WILL CONSIST OF DARK GRAY SEAM METAL ROOF PANELS.

THEY'RE VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE. THE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE RAISED A LITTLE BIT.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A STONE WALL ALONG THE PERIMETER, AND THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME RAMPS AND STAIRS TO GET UP TO THE LEVEL OF THE LOG CABIN.

BUT THEY'RE BEING DESIGNED IN A, IN A FASHION THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THIS STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE.

THE LOG CABIN STRUCTURE IS INTENDED TO BE USED AS A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE.

AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER.

I WILL NOTE YESTERDAY THE CITY COMMISSION DID REFER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, A DISCUSSION ITEM TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN,

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IF THAT HAPPENS, IF THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDES THAT THIS IS NOT THE WAY THEY WANT TO GO, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A NEW APPLICATION FOR THE LOG CABIN STRUCTURE WHERE WHEREVER THAT MAY BE. SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING THE DESIGN OF THE LOG CABIN AT THE LOCATION AS PRESERVED.

IF THAT LOCATION HAS TO CHANGE, WE'LL SEE ANOTHER APPLICATION COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

SO WITH THAT WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE, TO THE APPLICANT.

AND WE HAVE, AS I SAID, WE HAVE COPIES OF THE, OF THE PRESENTATION BEFORE SO WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

GO AHEAD. HELLO. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS EVELYN.

I'M REPRESENTING BA ARCHITECTS. I HAVE WITH ME HERE THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD, ROBERT DRAPER, AND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. YOU WANT TO TALK? NO, NO. GO AHEAD. OKAY. WE HAVE HERE THE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, MR. NELSON PARRIS, FOR US TO PRESENT. SO IF YOU CAN TURN TO PAGE THREE.

SO HERE WE HERE WE CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THE ORIGINAL CITY OF MIAMI BEACH LOG CABIN CONDITION.

THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN WAS BUILT IN 1934, AND IT SERVED AS A COMMUNITY ASSET AND SYMBOLIZED THE NORTH BEACH HISTORICAL BEGINNINGS. BUT DUE TO LIFE SAFETY REASON, IT WAS DISMANTLED IN 2017.

THE THE THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN HAD APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF TOTAL AREA.

IT ALSO INCLUDED WOOD FINISHED FLOORS, WOOD INTERIORS.

CHIMNEY LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL BE USED IN THE NEW PROPOSED LOG CABIN.

AND ALSO IT HAS A ROOF TILE WOOD FRAMING WITH ASPHALT FIBERGLASS ROOF SHINGLES.

IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME SOME OF OTHER IMAGES OF THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN CONDITION, AND ALSO OF THE DISMANTLED CHIMNEY. AS YOU CAN SEE.

FOLLOWING THE THE SLIDE NUMBER FIVE. THESE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT WE'RE THINKING OF REUSING THE MATERIALS, SUCH AS THE WOOD LOGS FROM THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN.

WE CAN USE IT AS A AS A FURNITURE PIECE. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH INTERIOR, WE WOULDN'T BE USING ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ANY STRUCTURE FEATURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT STRUCTURALLY STABLE.

SAME THING GOES FOR SLIDE NUMBER SIX. THIS IS SOME IDEAS THAT WE CAN USE.

THE WOOD LOGS ON SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN HERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT LOCATION.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN MIAMI BEACH AND NORTH BEACH OCEAN PARK.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE BY THE CITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE DIFFERENT VIEWS FROM THE STREET.

AND THEN ON THE ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME VIEWS LOOKING TOWARDS THE VACANT SITE.

ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE EXISTING PARK CONDITION, HOW YOU ENTER THE PARK AND HOW YOU CIRCULATE AROUND THE AREA OF THE PARK.

AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN SIDE WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXISTING PARK, DOG PARK, AND ALSO AN EXISTING RESTROOM. SO THE NEW LOG CABIN CONSISTS MAINLY OF A NEW 1200 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY LOG CABIN, AND IT WILL POTENTIALLY SERVE AS A COMMUNITY CENTER AND INFORMATION CENTER.

AND IT'S INCLUSIVE AND WILL SHOWCASE PHOTOS OF THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN.

SOME MATERIAL SELECTIONS TO TO CONSIDER WOULD BE THE MATERIALS WILL HAVE TO BE RESISTANT TO SALT SPRAY AND MOISTURE SINCE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE WATER. AND IT ALSO HAD TO HAVE SEALERS. ALSO, IT NEEDS TO ALSO COMPLY WITH BUILDING CODES.

AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE YOU KNOW, NOAA, FLORIDA PRODUCT APPROVAL AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

YOU KNOW, IN THE FOLLOWING PAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NORTH BEACH PROXIMITY MAP, WHICH SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE OF THE LOG CABIN AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES AROUND IT.

AND ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE WE ZOOM IN MORE INTO THE AREAS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND BUS STOPS.

IF YOU GO TO THE FOLLOWING PAGE HERE WE HAVE A MORE DETAILED SURVEY PER SE OF THE SELECTED LOCATION YOU HAVE AROUND THAT, THE PROPOSED LOCATION YOU HAVE BIKE RACK, RIDE.

PICNIC AND BARBECUE AREAS. YOU HAVE PUBLIC BATHROOMS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THE BATHROOMS ARE ABOUT 200 275FT FROM THE ACTUAL LOG CABIN.

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WE ALSO HAVE AUTHORIZED PARKING, AND WE HAVE AN EXISTING DOG PARK.

AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, WE HAVE THE RECORD SURVEY PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO YOU ON THE FOLLOWING ONE PAGE. WE HAVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE HERE.

WE HAVE THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACK.

THE SITE HAS A GOVERNMENTAL USE TYPE OF ZONING.

SO WE HAD TO WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE ZONING DISTRICT AROUND THE SITE AND ADD THEM UP AND DO A PERCENTAGE.

AND THAT'S WHAT GIVE US THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK.

AND THEN WE HAD A PROPOSAL ON THE ON THE BOTTOM YOU WILL SEE THE PROPOSED BUILDING SETBACK.

SO WE DO MEET ZONING REQUIREMENTS. ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE YOU CAN FIND THE LIGHT SAFETY DRAWING.

THIS IS JUST US EXPLAINING YOU THE OCCUPANCY TYPE THE HOW MUCH OF ALLOWANCE WE HAVE FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

WE'RE VERY, VERY WELL SET ON THAT BECAUSE OUR BUILDING IS NOT EVEN 40FT HIGH.

SO WE COMPLY WITH THAT. WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION FI B IS NOT SPRINKLE.

AND THE TOTAL BUILDING AREA HERE IS 1200 SQUARE FEET.

SO AN ALLOWABLE IS SIX 6000FT². SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY WELL.

AND THE FOLLOWING PAGE WE HAVE THE OVERALL PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE PLAN.

HERE WE SHOW THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE REQUIRED SETBACK.

HERE WE WILL SHOW SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES AND SOME OF THE RELOCATED TREES DUE TO SINCE AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE DASHED AREA, THOSE ARE THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVABLE AND ON SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE RELOCATED AROUND THE SITE TO PROVIDE SHADING FOR THE FOR THE OUTDOOR PATIO AREA. HERE AT THE BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE THE ONE STORY RESTROOM.

AND IN IN THE IN IN THE GENERAL NOTES, WE MENTIONED THAT THOSE RESTROOMS ARE 275FT FROM THE FROM THE ACTUAL CABIN.

SO THEY ARE WALKABLE AT A WALKABLE DISTANCE. THE FOLLOWING PAGE IS MOSTLY A TREE DISPOSITION PLAN SHOWING WHAT WAS EXISTING, WHAT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE YOU HAVE YOUR ENLARGED PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

HERE. WE JUST MENTIONED THE THE ROOF SLOPES. THE OUTDOOR PATIO.

WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALITY? WE'RE GOING TO BE USING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING PERMEABLE PAVERS. WE WE'RE GOING TO HERE YOU CAN SEE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF ACCESSING THE THE LOG CABIN. YOU HAVE ADA COMPLIANCE RAMPS AND ALSO THE STEPS TOWARDS THE FRONT.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING NEW BIKE RACKS OVER A NEW CONCRETE PATH ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, YOU HAVE MORE OF A ZOOMING AREA OF THE TREE DISPOSITION PLAN.

AND ON THE FOLLOWING AREA YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLANS.

HERE WE WE INCLUDED A FINISHED LEGEND SCHEDULE PORTRAYING THE THE TYPE OF WOOD FLOORING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING CHEVRON CHEVRON WOOD FLOORING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING ON THE EXTERIOR SIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE A WOOD, A WOOD DECK THAT WRAPS AROUND THE ACTUAL BUILDING AND THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE OUT OF WOOD DECK. IT'S VERY RESISTANT TO THESE WEATHER CONDITIONS, AND THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE A, A STRUCTURALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE GOING TO BE 18 CMU WALLS WITH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR WOOD SIDING.

IT COULD BE EITHER WOOD LOG SIDING OR IT COULD BE A COMPOSITE THAT'S STILL UNDETERMINED.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALUMINUM RAILING FOR ADA COMPLIANCE ON THE RAMPS AND ALSO AROUND THE BUILDING.

ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE REFLECTED CEILING PLANS.

HERE. WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH MEANS OF EGRESS FOR WITH PHOTOMETRICS.

AND ALSO YOU CAN TAKE A NOTE THAT THE LIGHT FIXTURES THAT WE'RE USING, IT COMPLIES WITH FWC, WHICH IS FOR THE TOTAL COMPLIANCE. AMBER LIGHTS.

ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES WE HAVE WE HAVE ALL THE ELEVATIONS HERE.

WE HAVE THE NORTH ELEVATIONS. AND ON THE, ON THE ON THE SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TABLE THAT IT ACTUALLY LISTS ALL THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE LOG CABIN.

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WE'RE CHARCOAL COLOR. NUMBER TWO WE'RE USING STRUCTURAL STEEL COLUMN WITH WOOD CLADDING.

NUMBER THREE, WE'RE USING PERMEABLE PAVERS. THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE ON THE AS YOU ENTER THE BUILDING ON THE EXTERIOR SIDE AND ON THE PATIO ON NUMBER FOUR, WE'RE USING A STONE CLADDING OVER EIGHT EIGHT INCHES CMU WALL.

NUMBER SIX WE'RE USING STONE CLADDING OVER 42 HEIGHT CAST IN PLACE.

CONCRETE WALL NUMBER SEVEN WILL BE ALUMINUM RAILING.

NUMBER EIGHT WILL BE AN ALUMINUM GUTTER. AND NUMBER NINE ALUMINUM DOWNSPOUT NUMBER TEN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MECHANICAL CONDENSING UNITS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THESE ONES ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED OVER A CONCRETE PAD.

AND IT WILL BE ALSO WE'RE PROPOSING A WOOD SCREENING AROUND IT.

NUMBER 12 WILL BE AN ALUMINUM BIKE RACKS THAT IS GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.

AND NUMBER 13 AND NUMBER 14 IS YOUR TYPICAL NOAA OR FLORIDA PRODUCT APPROVAL WINDOW GLAZING SYSTEM.

AND GLAZING SYSTEM. NUMBER 15 WILL BE YOUR CONCRETE WALL AND WOOD CLADDING.

NUMBER 16 WILL BE A WOOD DECK, NUMBER 17 AGAIN, A 42 42IN HIGH ALUMINUM CABLE AND NUMBER 18 EXTERIOR MARINE GRADE LIGHT FIXTURES. AND NUMBER 19 FINALLY WILL BE YOUR AMBER LED ROUND FLAT TOP.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, LIKE, A MORE OF A DETAIL BECAUSE THIS IS THIS TABLE IS GOING TO BE REPEATED ON THE FOLLOWING PAGES.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM AS WE GO.

ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE YOU HAVE THE EAST ELEVATION.

IT'S WORTH NOTING AS YOU CAN SEE WE WE HAVE THE THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN CHIMNEY, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, WE HAVE THE WEST ELEVATION HERE WE CAN SEE HOW THE BUILDING HOW YOU ENTER AND YOU, YOU ENTER THE BUILDING. AND THEN ON THE SIDE YOU HAVE THE WELCOME TO CITY OF MIAMI BEACH LOG CABIN.

SO YOU AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FLOOR PLAN. AND ON THIS SIDE YOU HAVE TWO WAYS OF APPROACHING THE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE THE MAIN WHICH IS THROUGH THE STEPS.

AND THEN FOR ADA COMPLIANCE UP RAMP FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY.

THE. ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PROPOSED SOUTH ELEVATION.

FOR THE FOLLOWING SLIDE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MATERIAL BOARD, WHICH ARE ALL THESE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE USING.

AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE USED FOR THIS PROJECT.

ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE YOU HAVE THE LOG CABIN SECTIONS.

HERE WE CAN WE WE ILLUSTRATE THE CHIMNEY WHICH IS THE HEART OF THE THIS PROPOSAL OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THIS LOG CABIN. ALSO YOU CAN SEE CAN YOU TELL US WHAT PAGE YOU'RE ON AT THIS POINT? WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT. OH, ON THE 27TH, 27TH OKAY.

YES, YES. ON SECTION ONE YOU CAN SEE I'M GOING TO REPEAT YOU CAN SEE THE CENTERPIECE IS THE CHIMNEY FROM THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A DESK.

THAT DESK IS ACTUALLY A RECEPTION DESK. THAT THAT WILL THAT WILL AS SOON AS PEOPLE COMING TO THE DOORS, IT WILL WELCOME THE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THIS RECEPTION DESK, THE THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES FROM THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN, THE LOGS, THE WOOD LOGS. AND ALSO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TREATMENTS ON THE INTERIOR SIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO, SUCH AS BUILDING FURNITURE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THESE LOGS AS WELL.

ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE WE'RE A BIT OVER TIME. ARE YOU IS THERE MORE? I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE FOLLOWING PAGES IS MOSTLY RENDERINGS.

SO IT'S JUST GOING THROUGH THEM. SO IT'S, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON PAGE 28 THE EXTERIOR RENDERING IN THE MORNING.

AND THEN AGAIN WE BREAK DOWN THE MATERIALITY OF THIS.

AND THEN ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, PAGE 30, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A NIGHT RENDER VIEW.

AGAIN, IF YOU TURN THE PAGE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PROPOSED MATERIALS.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING PAGES ARE EXTERIOR VIEWS.

SOUTH EASTERN ELEVATION VIEWS, JUST 3D RENDERINGS.

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AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE WALL WE ARE SHOWING YOU'RE SHOWCASING ORIGINAL PHOTOS OF THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A IT'S A IT'S A PLACE FOR FOR PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND ENGAGE AND MEET ONE ANOTHER.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN THOUGH THE FURNITURE IS NOT SET IN STONE PER SE, WE WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF CLASSIFY DIFFERENT ZONES FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE. THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS AND MOTHERS GATHERING AROUND THE CHIMNEY MORE, MORE HARM, MORE WARM. AND THEN IN OTHER AREAS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A STUDY SESSION WITH A TABLE.

AND IN ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER, ANOTHER SECTION.

IF YOU IF YOU TURN THE PAGE TO, TO PAGE 40, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A, AN ISOLATED CORNER, YOU KNOW, MORE PRIVATE SETUP. AND THAT WILL BE ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MEAN, THE I'M SORRY.

THE FINAL PAGE WILL BE MOSTLY THE PROJECT SCHEDULE AND ACTUALLY THE NEXT STEPS TO FOLLOW.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE DRB PRESENTATION AND THEN THE, THE THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE THE 60% SET OF DRAWINGS AND THEN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS PERMITTING AND BIDDING AWARD WILL FOLLOW AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AND THEN PROJECT COMPLETION.

SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES THAT DO YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD ABOUT THE PROJECT? I'LL WAIT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. OKAY. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PARTICIPATE? THERE IS NOBODY ON ZOOM. OKAY, I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

I ACTUALLY HAD. IF YOU DON'T, I'M GOING TO SORT OF SET THE TONE WITH A GENERAL QUESTION THAT I THINK WILL ALSO.

SO I HAVE TO SAY, AS I'M GOING THROUGH THIS, I'M I'M ENJOYING THE DESIGN MORE.

BUT I HAVE A MY FIRST IMPRESSION TOO WAS THE WHY? LIKE WHY? WHY DOES THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WANT TO BUILD THIS IN THIS LOCATION? AND WHAT WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO HAVE IT ACTIVATED AND USED? GOOD MORNING. COLETTE SATCHELL OFFICE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THE DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR DESIGN.

SO IN 2017, AFTER DOGWOOD EVALUATED THE BUILDING, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE HAD TO TEAR IT DOWN.

I THINK ROGELIO SET THAT UP FOR YOU. IN 2017, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING, THE CITY COMMISSION, DOVER. KOHL. DOVER. KOHL, AS YOU KNOW, IS THE PRIMARY DESIGN FIRM FOR THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN.

THEY SUGGESTED THREE LOCATIONS AND ALL OF THEM, OF COURSE, AFTER SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT THAT TIME, INCLUDED THREE LOCATIONS IN NORTH BEACH OCEAN PARK.

THEY THERE'S A RESOLUTION WHERE THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AND WERE THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AND WE WERE DIRECTED TO LOCATE IT IN THAT OPTION THAT WAS CLOSEST TO 82ND STREET, AS I THINK ROGELIO MENTIONED, NORTH BEACH OCEAN PARK UNDERWENT A MAJOR RENOVATION THAT WAS COMPLETED ABOUT 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO.

DURING THAT REDESIGN, WE KNEW THAT THE LOG CABIN WAS COMING TO THE PARK.

SO THERE WAS A SPACE THAT WAS ANTICIPATED, THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, POSSIBLY WHERE IT WOULD THE DESIGN OF THE PARK WAS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ARRANGED AROUND THE ANTICIPATION OF THIS LOCATION.

SO WE'RE REALLY ACTING ON DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO PLACE IT IN THE PARK.

SO WE'RE NOT PLACING IT AT 82ND STREET, BECAUSE THE NEW DESIGN KIND OF SHIFTS THE WALKWAY.

BUT 81ST STREET IS REALLY AWESOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE A STOPLIGHT SO PEOPLE CAN EASILY CROSS TO GET INTO THE PARK.

YOU HAVE A BUS STOP, SO THOSE WHO COME BY BUS CAN EASILY ACCESS THE BUILDING IF THEY NEED.

SO THE LOCATION IS SHIFTED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 81ST AND 82ND STREET, BUT IT ALIGNS WITH A WALKWAY AND A ENTRANCE FEATURE DIRECTLY OFF OF COLLINS AVENUE INTO THE PARK. THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE WITH THE LOCATION.

AND LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, TOO, FOR FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN IN MIAMI BEACH FOR A VERY LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE GEO BOND AND OTHER PROJECTS.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME HISTORY AND SOME CONTEXT?

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IT HAS HAD COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS OVER THE YEARS, AND PEOPLE REMEMBER GOING THERE TO PICK UP CERTAIN THINGS OR GOING THERE FOR CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AND BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT EVEN DURING THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD ASSOCIATIONS WITH THIS BUILDING, AND MANY OF THEM EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS HISTORIC.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE THEY REFERENCED IT AS A HISTORIC LOG CABIN, WHICH IT'S NOT.

SO THIS IS ALL BASED THIS IS ALL BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, WE WE WENT IN AND AT THE TIME IN 2017 WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DISASSEMBLED BECAUSE IT WAS STRUCTURALLY UNSTABLE WE WENT AHEAD AND WE HAD IT IN STORAGE FOR MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, AIR CONDITIONED STORAGE WAS CATALOGED AND STORED.

AT THAT POINT, I THINK ABOUT 45 OR 50% OF THE BUILDING WAS NOT USABLE.

IT WAS REALLY THAT FAR DETERIORATED. WE'VE HAD THE WOOD AND THE CHIMNEY IN STORAGE FOR YEARS, SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. AND WE RECENTLY, RECENTLY, A COUPLE YEARS AGO BROUGHT IT ON TO THE BEACH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE PURCHASED A STORAGE CONTAINER AND WE'RE STORING IT HERE.

BECAUSE OF THE INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY IN 2018 IS WHEN WE RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH THE GEO BOND.

AND OF COURSE, THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SLATED FOR TRANCHE TWO FOR THOSE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TRANCHE SYSTEM.

AND IN 2024, WE RECEIVED DIRECTION AGAIN FROM THE COMMISSION BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT, THAT WE SHOULD ACCELERATE THIS PROJECT.

SO BASED ON THE 2024 DIRECTIVE, WE'VE MOVED AHEAD, YOU KNOW, SELECTED A CONSULTANT.

AND HERE WE ARE FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION FOLLOWING THE ANALYSIS BY THE PROFESSIONALS, WELL KNOWN PROFESSIONALS AS A PART OF, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR SUGGESTION REALLY IS BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT AFTER SEVERAL CHARRETTES NOT JUST FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT ALSO FOR THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN. YEAH.

THANK YOU. AND THEN HOW DO YOU ENVISION THE STRUCTURE BEING USED? AND ARE THERE NO OTHER I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS YOUR DIVISION OR ALSO THE PARTS DIVISION.

YOU KNOW HOW ELSE ARE. I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PARKS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENCLOSED, AIR CONDITIONED PAVILIONS IN THEM.

YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE USED? SO THE DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION WAS AS A COMMUNITY FACILITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE COULD GATHER AND AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY WILL.

BUT UNDER THAT HAT, THEY COULD DO ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, HOST SMALL WEDDINGS TO HAVE SMALL GROUP ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS ARTS.

YOU KNOW, THEY COULD IT COULD BE A GREAT LOCATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PATIO PROPOSAL ON THE REAR TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR HALLOWEEN IN THE PARK. IT IT OFFERS SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMING AS A COMMUNITY FUNCTION.

I THINK ONE OF THE SO THAT WE CAN REFERENCE WHAT WAS PASSED YESTERDAY.

WE'RE BEING REFERRED TO COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS A POSSIBLE USE TO INCLUDE A FOOD PANTRY.

SO THERE THERE IS A CONVERSATION GOING ON ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBLE USES COULD BE, BUT IT'S WIDE, IT'S REALLY OPEN. AND THE THE FACILITY IS BEING DESIGNED IN A WAY WHERE IT COULD BE USED FOR ANY COMMUNITY USE BASED ON ITS SIZE.

THANK YOU. WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE USE OF THE PRIOR LOG CABIN? WAS IT SIMILAR? IT WAS SIMILAR. THEY HAD COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS.

AT ONE POINT I THINK PARKS HAD OFFICES INSIDE THERE, BUT WE HAVE RECOLLECTION FROM PEOPLE WHERE THEY WENT THERE TO PICK UP THINGS FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR FROM THE CITY. SO IT WAS A COMMUNITY USE.

AND THEN WHY WAS THIS PART OF IT MOVED FROM THE WEST LOTS TO THE PARK? BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE WEST. LOTS LIKE. YES IT WAS.

IT WAS NEXT TO THAT MASONRY BUILDING THAT'S STILL THERE.

8128 IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM DOVER KOHL BASED ON THEIR ANALYSIS.

RIGHT. AND THAT ANALYSIS IS BASED ON THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN.

I GO BACK TO THAT. AND THEN THAT THAT SUGGESTION WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTING BASED ON THOSE DIRECTIONS.

YEAH. WELL, AS SOMEONE WHO FREQUENTS THIS PARK ALMOST DAILY, I DO LIKE SEEING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ACTIVATE THAT PART OF THE PARK ITSELF.

AND I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE A CABIN OR WELCOME CENTER IN A NATIONAL PARK IN, LIKE, COLORADO OR LIKE MONTANA OR WYOMING. SO IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN THE REST OF MIAMI.

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OKAY. WHAT OTHER WHAT OTHER FUNCTIONS DO YOU SEE? YOU CAN YOU CAN CREATE ANY EVENTS BY THE CITY.

IT COULD, IT COULD BE I MEAN, WE HAVE TREES THAT OFFER SHADES DURING, DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON.

SO, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS, THE LIMIT YOU HAVE THE AREA, AND YOU CAN CREATE ANY EVENTS THAT YOU LIKE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY OR THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO PROPOSE.

I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH GREYNOLDS PARK, THEY HAVE SIMILAR STRUCTURES WITHIN THEIR PARK AND THEIR VENUES FOR AWESOME WEDDINGS, FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR POSSIBLE FARMERS MARKET FOR YOUTH GROUP MEETINGS.

THERE'S EVEN A FEW OF THESE STRUCTURES WITHIN GREENWICH PARK.

STONE AND WOOD, THAT THEY ACTUALLY USE THEM FOR CAMPSITES, YOU KNOW, SO IT OFFERS WHERE THEY ACTIVATE, BRING THE CHILDREN OUT TO NATURE. YOU KNOW, BOYS THE BOY SCOUTS AND THE GIRL SCOUTS.

SO THERE'S SO MANY POSSIBILITIES FOR USE. HAVE YOU LOOKED IN WILL THERE BE FENCING AROUND THE PATIO ITSELF OR AT.

IT'S NOT SHOWN YET. IT IT'S NOT SHOWN YET. OKAY.

IT WAS THE IDEA WAS FOR IT TO BE OPEN. AND IF YOU NOTICE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY MAINTAINED SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE OF A NATURAL EXTENSION, AN EXTENSION OF THE NATURAL AREA.

OKAY. LAURA DID YOU HAVE SOME. YEAH I HAVE A FEW I GUESS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. SO ARE WE, I GUESS ALLOWED, IS IT IN OUR PURVIEW TO TALK ABOUT THE INTERIOR BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE, OR ARE WE JUST SOLELY COMMENTING ON THE EXTERIOR.

GENERALLY, THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD IS THE THE EXTERIOR AND THE OUTWARD FACING DESIGN.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER.

BUT GENERALLY THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD IS THE EXTERIOR. OKAY.

I JUST MORE HAVE A QUESTION, I GUESS ON ONE OF THE INTERIORS, JUST LOOKING AT THE ANY OF THE REALLY INTERIOR RENDERINGS AROUND THE THE FIREPLACE, YOU'VE YOU'VE CHANGED THE FLOORING FROM, LIKE, CHEVRON TO TO JUST REGULAR PLANKS.

IS THAT IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO THAT? IS THAT LIKE AN OLD WOOD, OR ARE YOU JUST WANTING TO CHANGE IT TO ACTUALLY ENHANCE AND ACTUALLY EMPHASIZE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ZONES? OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE USE A DIFFERENT MATERIAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CHEVRON.

IT COULD BE ANY MATERIALS THAT THE CLIENT WANTS OR THE COMMUNITY PREFERS.

BUT IT'S JUST TO KIND OF DEFINE THE ZONES WITHIN THE INTERIOR SPACE.

OKAY, I SEE, YEAH, I LIKE IT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, REUSING SOME FROM SOME WOOD FROM THE PRIOR SITE.

I DO LIKE IT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I DO, I LOVE THE SLIDES FIVE AND SIX, WHERE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT REPURPOSING WOOD FROM THE PRIOR CABIN. I MEAN, I THINK IF IF IT'S, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT A CONDITION IN THERE ALREADY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY WILL ADD A LOT OF CHARACTER TO THE SPACE.

BOTH INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR. SO I'D REALLY I'D REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THAT BE THOUGHT THROUGH MORE BECAUSE I KNOW THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES. BUT I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANY OF THAT IN ANY OF THE RENDERINGS BEYOND THE CHIMNEY, WHICH I LOVE AS WELL. SO I, I JUST REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT, THAT USED MORE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ADA COMPLIANT, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN PUT THE, YOU KNOW, NOT THE ACTUAL GRAB RAIL, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN PUT THAT ALONG THE RAILING FOR THE RAMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD ADD A LOT OF WHIMSY TO THE, TO THE EFFECT OF HAVING LIKE A LOG CABIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BEACH.

WHAT WAS MY OTHER COMMENT? ONE COMMENT ON THE EXTERIOR DESIGN.

AND MAYBE OTHERS WILL DISAGREE WITH ME. I THINK THAT THIS STONE WALL IS A LITTLE INTENSE JUST IN IN ITS MASSING. FOR JUST HOW MUCH, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT, LIKE SLIDE 29.

MAYBE THOSE COULD BE COLUMNS OF THE STONE, AND THEN YOU BREAK IT UP WITH MORE OF A, LIKE A, AN OPEN SORT OF WALL. IT'S JUST IT'S VERY HEAVY.

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THE WOOD STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE REALLY HEAVY. SO TO HAVE SOME JUST RELIEF FROM JUST A FULL STONE WALL.

THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION FROM ME. JUST SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

SO THE SIDE ELEVATIONS HAVE THE STONE BROKEN UP BY BY SOME RAILS.

IS THAT MORE, MORE OR LESS WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING? YEAH, YEAH, MAYBE CONTINUING THAT IN THE FRONT.

I THINK THAT THAT TO ME, IT JUST IT LOOKS TOO HEAVY.

BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE, I THINK THE EXTENT OF MY NOTES HERE.

BUT IT'S A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ADAM. YES. I MEAN, I HAVE NOTES HERE. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH THE WINDOWS. WHAT WERE THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN STYLE.

IT WAS ACTUALLY A GLASS WINDOW, BUT THE THE FRAMING WAS WOODEN.

WAS THERE A DIVIDED LIGHT? WAS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO IT? NO IT WASN'T. THERE WASN'T ANY MOUNTAINS OR ANYTHING.

I'M ACTUALLY SEEING HERE IN THE IF YOU SEE SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, I ONLY LOOKED CLOSED UP.

THAT'S WHY I CAN'T REALLY TELL. YEAH. LIKE IF YOU SEE THE INTERIOR, THERE'S ONE INTERIOR PHOTO THAT SHOWS THE WINDOW.

MAYBE ALSO WAS THE INTENT TO COPY THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN OR WAS IT.

I MEAN, IS THAT SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE. YEAH, I'M, I'M SORT OF PUTTING ON MY SORT OF HISTORIC HAT OR ADAPTIVE REUSE HERE.

RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GOT IT LOOKS LIKE OTHER FIXED OR SLIDERS.

AND THESE ARE FULL PANE AND THESE ARE PROBABLY ALUMINUM.

WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE IMPACT GLASS. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE STYLE OF A OF THE WINDOW, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T I COULDN'T TELL FROM THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS.

RIGHT. THOSE SHADES IN FRONT OF IT, IF IT'S A FIXED PIECE, WOULD OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD WOOD FRAMES.

BUT IS THIS TRYING TO BE MORE IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT A 1940S OR 30S CABIN WOULD BE WITH A DIVIDED LIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I THINK THAT MAY BRING CHARACTER TO THIS, IF THAT IS THE THE POINT.

SO THE WINDOWS WAS, WAS ONE POINT POINT ANOTHER ONE THE SIDING.

IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE SIDING IS, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, COMPOSITE OR WOOD.

I SEE THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY NO IDEA WHAT THE COMPOSITE LOG SIDING LOOKS LIKE, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE A CONTAINER OF OLD LOGS, MAYBE YOU COULD START TO RIP THOSE DOWN AND USE THOSE AS THE SIDING AND SANDBLAST THEM AND AND TREAT THEM.

AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE. AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY USING THE MATERIAL AS THE CLADDING FOR I KNOW THE WALLS WILL BE BLOCKED.

BUT THAT TO ME IS LIKE, IS THIS THING GOING TO LOOK LIKE PLASTICKY AND NOT OLD AND WEATHER NICELY, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT FEELS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE PARK IS KIND OF NEW AND IT'S, IT'S I DON'T KNOW, I'M AGAIN I'M GOING, I'M GOING, I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING WITH WHAT I'VE GOT HERE.

SO AND THE SIDING IS ON THE INSIDE. SO MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WOOD TO DO IT ALL.

SO MAYBE YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE INTERIOR BECAUSE THAT WOOD IS IS PROBABLY WEATHERED AND HAS WATER DAMAGE ON BOTH SIDES.

BUT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE OF IT, BUT YOU COULD JUST DO IT ON THE INTERIOR.

AND THEN WHAT IS THE MORTAR OR THE, THE IDEA OF WHAT THE MORTAR IS BETWEEN THE LOGS.

WHAT WHAT COLOR IS THAT? HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE ALL THE MATERIALS HERE SORT OF HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT.

ANOTHER POINT WAS THE STONE. SO THE STONE SEEMS TO BE ORIGINATED FROM THE CHIMNEY.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I IMAGINE. BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL.

CORRECT. RIGHT. THE ONLY THE ONLY THING ON THE, ON ON THE CABIN WAS OF STONE WAS THE, THE CHIMNEY.

SO. AND YOU HAVE THE CHIMNEY OR YOU HAVE THE STONES FROM THE CHIMNEY.

WE HAVE THE CHIMNEY, RIGHT. WE HAVE THE CHIMNEY.

IT IS IT IS INTACT. IT'S INTACT. OKAY. IT'S BEEN EMBRACED.

GOTCHA. SO YOU'VE GOT AN ELEMENT HERE AND YOU'VE BROUGHT IT TO THE EXTERIOR.

WHICH WHICH IS NICE. WHAT'S THE. WHERE DO THE STONES COME FROM? WHAT? WHAT IS THE THE STONE PATTERN? WHAT IS THE MORTAR USED FOR THAT? YOU'VE USED IT SO MUCH ON THE EXTERIOR THAT IT IS HEAVY AND AND AGAIN, MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE SO MUCH TO BE AS APPROPRIATE AS I THOUGHT YOUR IDEA WAS, WAS MAYBE USING THE RAILINGS OR SOMETHING WAS BETTER, BUT THE WHERE I WANT TO STONE CAME FROM WAS IT IS IT FROM FLORIDA?

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THAT WALL JUST CAN'T BE LIKE THAT. THAT MIGHT NEED A CAP OR SOMETHING.

SO I FEEL LIKE THE STONE WALL NEEDS, NEEDS, NEED IN THE FRONT ELEVATION FOR SURE.

NEEDS NEED SOME INVESTIGATION AND AND HOW THE COLUMNS DIE INTO THE STONE WALL WITH ANOTHER PIECE.

THEY JUST FROM THE RENDERING I'M GOING ON JUST I DON'T KNOW, I NEED TO PROPORTION AND HAVE A BASE AND WHAT THE CAP IS AND HOW THE HOW THE WOOD SITS ON IT, WHAT THE DETAIL IS. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING OVERBOARD AND I APOLOGIZE.

AND YEAH, THE COLUMN BASES. AND LET ME JUST SEE WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERIOR.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THAT THIS BE BE USED.

I ASKED WHY THE CHEVRON AND THEN THE THE TRUSSES ON THE INTERIOR.

WHAT ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING NECESSARILY ON THAT, BUT WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THEY AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY OF A PERIOD OF A LOG CABIN? ARE THEY GOING TO BE PINE.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE STAINED? ARE THEY GOING TO BE WOOD. THEY'RE LOOK EXPOSED.

AND I THINK THOUGHT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE INTERIOR SO THAT LIKE IF YOU'RE WALKING INTO THIS, ARE WE WALKING INTO THE PAST OR IS THIS JUST THE NOD TO THE OLD CABIN.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO USE SOME PIECES OF IT. AND AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS SOMETHING.

OKAY. SO LET'S PUT THIS THING TOGETHER. ARE WE REALLY GOING TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE ARE I'M IMAGINING MY KIDS GOING THERE AND I WANT THEM TO I WANT THE FIRST PART TO BE THE STORY ABOUT THE CABIN BEFORE THEY START TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THERE, LIKE AN ART CLASS OR SOMETHING LIKE VERSUS WELCOME TO THE CABIN.

AND THE DESK IS MADE FROM MILLED LOGS, AND THE CLADDING IS MADE FROM THIS.

AND THESE TREES CAME FROM FLORIDA PINE OR I'M MAKING THIS ALL UP, BUT AND THEN THE ROCKS CAME FROM THE RIVER UP NORTH AND RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE WAS BRICK SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE BRICK WAS PART OF THIS AND WE'RE MISSING. WE'RE MISSING BRICK. SO THAT'S SO I GUESS THAT I. YES, I AGREE WITH THOSE. SO WHAT WAS THE INTENT? WAS IT TO RECREATE THE CABIN? WAS IT TO INTERPRET THE CABIN? WELL, IN REALITY, IT WAS MOSTLY TO I THINK IT WAS YEAH.

I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW. HOMAGE TO THE OLD CABIN.

AND I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CHIMNEY AS A BIT OF THE HEART OF THE OLD CABIN THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE NEW CABIN.

IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY. IT'S ABOUT A SPACE THEY CAN SHARE.

BUT IT'S ALSO AN HOMAGE TO THE ORIGINAL AND THE CHIMNEY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OLD BUILDINGS, THE CHIMNEY IS INDEED THE HEART OF BUILDINGS.

SO I THINK WE CAN WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS THE CHIMNEY, AND MAYBE REUSE THE WOOD AROUND THE CHIMNEY FROM ALL, FROM THE ORIGINAL, EVEN IN THE FLOORING, LIKE YOU GUYS SUGGESTED IN THIS DESIGN MEETING.

AND THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THIS BUILDING. IT'S JUST YEAH.

NO, I MEAN, AND IT WASN'T A HISTORICAL BUILDING IT NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME.

YEAH. SO THEN LET ME, I MEAN, TO ANSWER ADAM'S QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE BEAMS? AND, I MEAN, WHAT WAS YOUR WHAT WAS YOUR VISION? I THINK IT'S IT'S MORE TO AN HOMAGE TO THE CONSTRUCTION STYLE.

UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE, THE THE WIND LOADS AND ALL OF THAT, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY UTILIZE MUCH OF THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.

MOST OF THE WOOD IS NOT REUSABLE, SO EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO RECREATE IT, WE COULDN'T USE IT IN ANY OF THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE. AND SO YOU'RE CHOOSING DIFFERENT MATERIALS.

AND AGAIN THE CHIMNEY AND HISTORIC CONSTRUCTION IS ALWAYS ESPECIALLY LOG CABINS UP NORTH.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS THE FIREPLACE IS THE HEART BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WARMTH OF THE HOME IS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE WERE THINKING WITH THE AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE CONCERN, THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WINDOWS? I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT MAYBE LIKE A DOUBLE HUNG STYLE TO GET AWAY FROM THE MORE MODERN LOOK THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE HEADED. AND I AGREE. I THINK I'M BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF WIND LOAD, WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY IF WE WENT WOULD THE FINANCIAL IMPACT.

NO, NO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. BUT I'M SAYING THAT THERE'S THIS WHAT IS THE STORY.

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AND THEN THE DESIGN PIECES BUILD UPON THAT FOR THE DESIGN PIECES AND IT'LL ALL IT'LL COME TOGETHER.

RIGHT. AND THE WINDOWS ARE PART OF IT. AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THIS SHOULD BE A HISTORICAL REPLICA OF A OF A CABIN FROM YELLOWSTONE.

BUT IF THAT'S WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE INTENTION IS, THEN THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SAID IT LAST TIME.

I MEAN, IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO BRING THE EDUCATION OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING TO THE FOREFRONT.

MAYBE THE FIRST THING YOU SEE AS YOU ENTER THE CABIN, LIKE YOU SUGGESTED, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING AND AGAIN, THE STORY AND TALKING ABOUT IT IS LIKE GIVING SOMETHING JUST MORE THAN WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE, WHAT THE EVENT IS HAPPENING THERE. LIKE, YOU GET FURTHER THE STORY OF IT.

IT JUST MAKES EVERYTHING A LITTLE MORE RICHER.

AND MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE PLAQUE OR SOMETHING THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT, LIKE WHEN YOU I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO LIKE EVERGLADES CITY.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN THERE, AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS A PLAQUE THAT EXPLAINS THE ORIGINAL.

I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, BUT YEAH. AND I ALSO THINK MAYBE TOO, IT'S I THE GENERAL FEELING THAT I'M GETTING IS THAT THE DESIGN IS NEITHER ONE NOR THE OTHER, THAT IT'S, IT'S AND THAT YEAH, YOU NEED TO SORT OF CHOOSE A PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO MORE TRADITIONAL LOG CABIN IN THAT WAY, AN HOMAGE TO WHAT WAS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, STUDY THOSE TRADITIONAL FORMS. AND I THINK THAT CERTAINLY THE WINDOWS REALLY WILL HELP WITH THAT.

EVEN I ALSO NOTICED I KEPT COMPARING THE ORIGINAL TO THE PROPOSED.

OPPOSED. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE DOUBLE DOORS IN FRONT.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE IN A LOG CABIN.

SO I THINK MAYBE THE DIRECTION IS CHOOSE A DIRECTION, EITHER DO TRADITIONAL LOG CABIN OR DO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF EITHER ONE IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

DOES THAT SEEM TO BE WHAT I THINK? THAT'S A GOOD WAY.

YOU KNOW. AND YEAH, BECAUSE I REALLY AGREE WITH LAURA, LIKE, I LOVE THIS IDEA OF USING THE WOOD THAT YOU DO HAVE TO ADD CHARACTER AND, YOU KNOW. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE SO COOL IF THE FURNITURE WAS MADE FROM THESE WOOD SLATS.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S ENOUGH. AND THAT WOULD BE SUPER UNIQUE.

AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT STORY. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, DO YOU HAVE TRUSSES LIKE THIS IN WOOD CABINS? YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONCEPT NEEDS TO BE REFINED A BIT.

DOES THAT SEEM TO BE WHAT I WOULD ALSO ADD TO.

AND THIS IS MORE ON THE MODERN SIDE. I WOULD REQUEST THAT THERE AT LEAST BE A WATER FOUNTAIN.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WATER FOUNTAINS IN THE PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THE BEACH.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS I DO ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BATHROOM THING.

I KNOW THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I PERSONALLY THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLACE THAT HAVE, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, THAT THE TWO CENT LIKE, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHERE I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE PARK AND WALKED AROUND BEFORE. I REGRET THAT I DIDN'T DO THAT TO KNOW HOW FAR THE BATHROOM IS, BUT JUST AS A CONVENIENCE, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE THE MOM WITH THE KID THAT'S POTTY TRAINING, SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.

I KNOW IT'S SORT OF SMALL, BUT I PERSONALLY AM THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS, AGAIN, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE IPE WOOD.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS NOT A VERY SUSTAINABLE WOOD IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING VERY DURABLE.

YEAH, THEY'RE DOING IT. BUT I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY DESTROYING THE FORESTS TO. ANYWAY, I WAS JUST ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE CITY BUILDINGS DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A VERY SORT OF EARTH FRIENDLY AGENDA TO THEM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER MATERIALS YOU DO CHOOSE ARE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S IN A PARK, THE MOST EARTH FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. AND YEAH, I MEAN, I DO.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS SEEMS TO BE LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE PROJECTS GOING IN THAT DIRECTION ANYWAY.

BUT TO WHEN YOU DO COME BACK TO MAYBE HAVE SOME SAMPLES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DECIDE TO GO WITH A COMPOSITE BECAUSE YEAH, WE'VE ALL SEEN COMPOSITE WOOD DONE WRONG. AND YOU HAD TO HAVE SAMPLES OF THE MORTAR AND THE WOOD PRODUCT OR THE WOOD OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO USE. I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO BURDEN ON THE ONE HAND, OF COURSE, REAL WOOD LOOKS BETTER AND IT'S MORE AUTHENTIC.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BURDEN OUR CITY WITH MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT ARE UNREASONABLE.

WHICH I'M SURE IS WHY YOU'RE GOING BACK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

I ALSO THINK, TOO, THAT COMES INTO PLAY CERTAINLY WITH THE WINDOWS, TOO, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE HURRICANE PROOFING OF ALL OF THAT.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, TO GO OFF OF THAT, LIKE HOW WE'RE SAYING PICK A DIRECTION, I DON'T KNOW,

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BUT THEN WHEN YOU STEP INSIDE, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

WHERE NOW WE'RE BACK IN TIME. LIKE ADAM SAYING YOU'RE YOU'RE USING ALL THE OLD MATERIALS BECAUSE HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE ELEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WOULD PERSONALLY WOULD BE OKAY WITH KIND OF THAT SHIFT HAPPENING INSIDE IF YOU NEED TO KEEP IT MORE FLORIDA BEACH FRIENDLY ON THE OUTSIDE. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, ONE DIRECTION MAYBE MEANS ONE DIRECTION INTERIOR, ONE DIRECTION EXTERIOR. AT LEAST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.

CONSIDER THE DURABILITY. AFTER 30 YEARS WITH KIDS RUNNING THROUGH IT AND EVERYONE TEARING IT IN HEAVY USE LIKE IT'S ORIGINAL MATERIAL, IT'S GOING TO BE CORRODED AND AND DECOMPOSE VERY QUICKLY COMPARED TO USING MODERN MATERIALS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO. YEAH. YEAH.

NO. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL SENSITIVE TO THAT. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY INPUT IS ALSO SENSITIVE TO THAT.

THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO SAY. SO. OH, AND THE THING IS, I WITH THE STONE WALL, I SORT OF LIKE THE STONE WALL BECAUSE IT REMINDS ME OF THE CORAL STONE WALL ALONG THE BEACH THAT IS SUCH AN ICONIC MIAMI BEACH THING.

BUT I DO AGREE IT. YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT HAD A STORY, IF IT WAS A SPECIFIC STONE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW RELATED. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD LIGHTEN UP.

LIKE, I THINK IT DOES A GOOD JOB OF GROUNDING THE STRUCTURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN MAKE A STONE WALL SEEM LESS HEAVY.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH ADAM'S POINT THAT YOU KNOW, THE COLUMNS, HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE WALL SHOULD BE.

AND ACTUALLY, JUST FROM YOUR DRAWINGS, I THOUGHT THAT THE WALL WAS.

NOW I'M SEEING THE SORT OF THE SECTION ENCIRCLING THE STRUCTURE IS RAISED LIKE THE DECK IS, IS RAISED. AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED A STONE, A WALL THERE TO BEGIN WITH SO PEOPLE DON'T FALL.

THAT WAS THE POINT OF HAVING A WALL THERE TO BEGIN WITH.

YES. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THINGS, THINGS TO PLAY WITH, YOU KNOW, BUT I OVERALL, I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF HAVING THE PATIO AND THE DECK AND YOUR IDEAS OF HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ACTIVATED. THAT WAS GREAT TO HEAR.

AND YEAH, IT IS NICE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS IN NORTH BEACH RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S THERE'S PLANS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT ON 72ND, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A PARK PAVILION.

THAT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING LIKE I THINK IT'S IT'S A NICE COMMUNITY.

IT'S A NICE STRUCTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I PERSONALLY, CONCEPTUALLY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE AND JUST WANT TO SEE.

AND I THINK THAT THIS CAN BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND NOTEWORTHY AND YEAH, LIKE I THINK I THINK I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF REFINEMENT.

SO YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR QUESTIONS FOR US? OKAY. I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TO CONTINUE.

SURE. IS THAT IS THAT. YEAH. HOW HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT WITH I MEAN, SHOULD WE SHOULD JUST MAKE MAKE A MOTION AND THEN WHATEVER HAPPENS ON THE COMMISSION SIDE, WE'LL JUST SORT OF DOVETAIL IT. CORRECT. I WOULD JUST ADD SO THE NEXT MEETING IS OCTOBER 23RD.

THE REFINEMENTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED, DO YOU THINK THOSE COULD BE MADE BY OCTOBER 23RD, OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO BE CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER? NO, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE MADE BY THEN.

YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO. SO IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE OCTOBER 23RD.

IF ANYTHING CHANGES, WE'LL WE'LL UPDATE AND REVISE THE AGENDA.

I'M SORRY. ROGELIO. WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING FOR THAT? WE TYPICALLY LIKE EVERYTHING AT LEAST 2 TO 3 WEEKS BEFORE.

SO WE'RE. SO IT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND. OH, NO.

JUST SO WE CAN GET EVERYTHING ONLINE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANALYZE IT AND UPDATE OUR STAFF REPORTS AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE SECTION, AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT. SO I THINK YOU NEED NOVEMBER.

YEAH. NOVEMBER WILL BE OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER.

NOVEMBER 20TH. AND I WOULD. AND MAYBE YOU'RE DOING THIS ANYWAY, BUT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE MEETINGS AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THIS TO GIVE ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FOR THE BUILDING.

WE WILL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT IS IT AGAIN.

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THANK YOU. YES. THE NEXT MEETING IS OCTOBER 23RD, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME TO COME TO THE SPECIAL MEETING TO GET THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA OUT OF THE WAY.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.

SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR MICROPHONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.