* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] PLEASE STAND BY. WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2025 MEETING OF THE MIAMI BEACH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. I AM EXCITED TO, UM, START THIS MEETING WITH, UH, AN INTRODUCTION TO A NEW BOARD LIAISON, MICHAEL BELU. AND SO MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, TAKE IT AWAY? SURE. THANKS JOHN. SO I'M HERE TO REPLACE, UM, DEBBIE TACKETT IN TERMS OF THIS ROLE. I'VE BEEN WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR 23 YEARS NOW AND ACTUALLY STARTED, UM, BACK IN 2003 TO 2013 AS A PRIMARY STAFF MEMBER TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. SO IT'S GOOD TO COME FULL CIRCLE AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE WORKING WITH YOU ALL TODAY. UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE AGENDA, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CLER, JUST WHO CAN LET MEMBERS OF, OF THE PUBLIC KNOW HOW THEY MAY PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. AND GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN TODAY'S MEETING, THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8. IF YOU'RE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, UH, PLEASE CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON AND IF YOU'RE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION. 20 ITEM EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING. IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LO LOBBYIST. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. UM, LASTLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D [SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC] LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WITH THAT, WE SHOULD TAKE UP THE, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER, UM, 16TH MEETING. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MISS THE MOTION. THANK YOU, MITCH. THANK YOU, RAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. NEXT WE [2. HPB25-0656, 1600 Washington Avenue, 425 16th Street and 1601 Drexel Avenue.] HAVE OUR FIRST APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A CONTINUANCE FROM LAST MONTH. IS THE APPLICANT READY FOR THIS ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, HPB 25 DASH ZERO FIVE, SORRY, 0 6 5 6. THIS IS 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE, 4 25 16TH STREET AND 1601 DREXEL AVENUE. THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF TWO STRUCTURES IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MIXED USE BUILDING. NOW, IN TERMS OF THE HISTORY ON THE SITE, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL APPROVALS OVER THE LAST, UM, 20 YEARS, DATING BACK TO MAY OF 2005, WHEN ACTUALLY MR. NOVIK WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AT THAT TIME, AND I WAS ACTUALLY STAFFED TO THE BOARD AS WELL AT THAT TIME. UM, THAT APPLICATION IN 2005 WAS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, THE DEMOLITION OF THE THREE, THE THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW NINE STORY MIXED TWO STRUCTURE ON APRIL, I'M SORRY, AUGUST OF 2009. UM, THE BOARD APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF TWO BUILDINGS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE, THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL. THIS GARAGE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 2013 AND REMAINS ON THE SITE. AND LASTLY, IN MAY OF 2018, THE BOARD APPROVED THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION OF THE CONTRIBUTING TWO STORY BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 STORY MIXED USE BUILDING. THIS INCLUDED SEVERAL SETBACK, HEIGHT AND VARIANCES. UM, NOW IN TERMS OF THE HISTORY FOR THE CURRENT APPLICATION ON NOVEMBER 26TH OF LAST YEAR, THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AIMED AT INCENTIVIZING RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE. THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION CURRENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION INCLUDES INCREASED MAXIMUM FAR AND BUILDING HEIGHT, SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS TO PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS AND WAIVERS OF MOBILITY FEES FOR QUALIFYING [00:05:01] DEVELOPMENTS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE LIES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE, OF THIS PROPOSED PLAN. AND THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY AIMS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE INCENTIVES. THIS INCLUDES AN INCREASE IN BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 100 FEET TO 150 FEET, AN INCREASE IN FAR FROM 2.75 TO 3.25. LAST THURSDAY, THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVED THE COMPANION APPLICATION TO THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD APPLICATION, WHICH WAS REQUIRED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT STRUCTURE AS IT EXCEEDS 50,000 SQUARE FEET. NOW, IN TERMS OF THIS APPLICATION, THE SUBJECT SITE AS, AS MENTIONED, CONTAINS THREE EXISTING STRUCTURES, INCLUDING A ONE STORY NON-CONTRIBUTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE. THE TWO STORY CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AT 4 25 16 STREET, AND A RECENTLY BUILT FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE X 1601 DREXEL AVENUE. THIS PROPOSAL CALLS FOR DEMOLISHING THE TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTING A NEW 15 STORY MIXED USE BUILDING WITH 210 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND APPROXIMATELY 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. RETAINING AND INTEGRATING THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE. STAFF SUPPORTS THE DEMOLITION OF 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE DUE TO ITS EXTENSIVE ALTERATIONS AND LACK OF INTEGRITY. AND BASED UPON THE CON CONTEXTUAL CHANGES, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STRUCTURAL REPORT INDICATING SEVERE DETERIORATION AND THE INVISIBILITY OF ELEVATION STAFF ALL SUPPORTS THE DEMOLITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 4 25 16TH STREET. STAFF GENERALLY SUPPORTS THE DESIGN DIRECTION, BUT HAS IDENTIFIED SEVERAL AREAS REQUIRING REFINEMENT. THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATION'S MIRROR ONE ANOTHER AND DO NOT ADEQUATELY RESPOND TO DIFFERING SOLAR CONDITIONS. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS ENHANCED SHADING ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION THROUGH CLOSE SURVEILLANCE SPACING, UM, INCORPORATION OF PERHAPS LASER CUT PERFORATED MATERIALS AND THE EXTENSION OF DEBRIS SOLAR LIGHT FEATURE, UM, TO THE UPPER LEVELS ON THE BUILDING'S. OVERALL HEIGHT AND REPETITIVE FACADE TREATMENT MAY RESULT IN VISUAL MONOTONY AND PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM THE LOWER SCALE, UM, DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH STACK. STAFF RECOMMENDS INTRODUCING SUB VARIATIONS IN FACADE PLANE AND SELECTED BALCONY SCREENING TO IMPROVE MORE VISUAL INTEREST ALONG THIS ELEVATION. AT THE PE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL STAFF RECOMMENDS ELIMINATING THE EXISTING SERVICE ACCESS AND CURB CUTS ALONG 16TH STREET TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND CON AND PEDESTRIAN CONTINUITY, AND IN FILLING THE 35 FOOT SERVICE CORRIDOR, UM, TO AVOID, TO COMPLETE THE STREET WALL. NOW, THE NORTHEAST CORNER FROM WASHINGTON AVENUE SHOULD BE FURTHER REFINED BY RECESSING THE GROUND FLOOR AND ANGLING THE RAMP INWARD TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN FLOW. AND LASTLY, DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE LANDSCAPE RENDERINGS AND SUBMITTED PLAN SHOULD BE CORRECTED TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY. UM, AT THE PERMITTING STAGE, THE APPLICANT'S ALSO REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM SECTION 7.1, 0.2 0.2 F TWO C OF THE CITY CODE, WHICH REQUIRES THAT THE GROUND FLOOR BE SET AT OR ABOVE THE FUTURE CROWD OF ROAD ELEVATION. NOW, BECAUSE THE EXISTING GARAGE WILL REMAIN RAISING THE NEW BUILDING SIDEWALK WOULD CREATE UNEVEN MIDBLOCK ELEVATIONS DUE TO THIS STAFF SUPPORTS THE WAIVER REQUEST. NOW DUE TO THE CONCERNS ADDRESSED, UM, HERE HEREIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD REVIEW THE APPLICATION, PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND CONTINUE THE APPLICATION TO A DATE CERTAIN OF DECEMBER 16TH OF THIS YEAR. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU MICHAEL. SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL DO, UH, BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE FOR STAFF. UM, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OR ANYTHING YOU WANT CLAR CLARIFICATION ON AT THIS POINT FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? AND SO THE, JUST TO CLARIFY FROM MY MY PERSPECTIVE, YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, TO, UH, CONTINUE IT TILL DECEMBER, THE DECEMBER MEETING, WILL YOU FEEL WILL PROVIDE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO DO CHANGE, DO THE DESIGN CHANGES THAT YOU'RE PURSUING? THAT'S CORRECT, YES, I BELIEVE SO, BUT NOTHING, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO. CAN YOU REVIEW JUST QUICKLY, THE CITY'S, UM, THE SERIES OF VOTES THAT THE CITY COMMISSION IS, IS TAKING IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN THEN? YEAH, SO THIS, THIS APPLICATION IS SUB IS, UM, IS CONTINGENT UPON CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE, WHICH ALLOW INCREASE IN HEIGHT FROM 100 FEET TO 150 FEET, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN FAR FROM 2.75 TO 3.25. THERE'S SOME OTHER MODERN MODIFICATIONS NOW THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT ON, ON THEIR OWN HAS FILED SEPARATE APPLICATIONS IN CASE THE, THE PENDING CITY APPLICATIONS DID NOT GO FORWARD. SO THAT IF THE CITY COMMISSION DOES NOT TAKE ACTION FAVORABLY FOR THOSE, FOR THE PENDING LEGISLATION, THEY CAN PROCEED ON A SEPARATE PATH TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO STILL MOVE FORWARD. AND, AND I'M SURE THAT MR. KAZEN WILL, WILL, WILL BRING THAT UP IN HIS PRESENTATION, OF COURSE. AND THE CITY AND THE CITY IS ON THE SECOND READING OF THAT, OF THE CODE OR ARE THEY FIRST, ARE THEY, HAVE THEY VOTED ON IT YET? SECOND? YEAH, THEY, THEY, UM, THEY REVIEWED IT ONE TIME AND CONTINUED IT TILL DECEMBER. OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. NO, I, UM, WHAT'S THE AR WHAT'S THE AREA THAT THE NEW ORDINANCE WILL INVOLVE? SO IT'LL INVOLVE THIS PROPERTY ITSELF AS WELL AS, UM, FROM FIFTH STREET TO, UM, LINCOLN ROAD [00:10:01] OR 17TH STREET ON, ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. SO THE ORDINANCE THAT'S PENDING FOR THE CITY COMMISSION IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE COMPARED TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IN THEIR SEPARATE ORDINANCE IS MORE FOCUSED ON THEIR PARTICULAR BLOCK. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. NICE, NICE TO SEE YOU. GOOD MORNING. UH, MR CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, NISSON KAZEN AND CECILIA TORRES TOLEDO REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH ME HERE AS WELL TODAY AS THE, UH, LEAD DESIGN ARCHITECT, ENRIQUE NORTON, AS WELL AS JOSE GOMEZ AND RICARDO UHON OF, UH, UH, BA AND GOMEZ ARCHITECTS, UH, AS WELL, YOSEF HATHAM, OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, AND, UH, VERY IMPORTANTLY AS WELL, AMBASSADOR PAUL SEJA, WHO HAS BEEN THE OWNER AND I WOULD SAY STEWARD OF THIS MOST IMPORTANT BLOCK IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH FOR SOME 30 YEARS. LET ME TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS AND THEN INTRODUCE MR. UH NORTON, TRYING TO ADVANCE THIS. THERE WE GO. UH, I THINK YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE LOCATION OF THIS PROJECT. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED HISTORICALLY AND IN FACT, TO THIS DAY, SERVES AS MIAMI BEACHES DOWNTOWN. IT'S THE, UH, WHERE WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LINCOLN ROAD CONNECT. AND, UH, HISTORICALLY IT HAS BEEN THE CENTER OF BUSINESS, UH, OFFICE, RETAIL AND CIVIC ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING THE CONVENTION CENTER. UH, FOR A MOMENT, THESE ARE SOME HISTORIC PICTURES OF, OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURE ON THE UPPER RIGHT IS THE FOUR 20 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING. AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL, BECAUSE, UH, AMBASSADOR SEJA HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE STEWARD OF THIS. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, UH, HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH, UH, THIS DOWNTOWN OF MIAMI BEACH WAS WHEN I WAS A KID WHERE WE WOULD GO TO SHOP WHERE THE OFFICES WERE FOR OUR, THE ATTORNEYS, THE BANKERS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS WHERE ACTIVITIES WERE IN REC. AND, AND TODAY, IT CONTINUES TO SERVE AS THE URBAN CORE. AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, NEWEST AND LARGEST BUILDINGS SERVING THIS AREA ARE BEING BUILT. NUMBER ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, AND A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS THE, UH, LOWE'S HOTEL. I'M SHOWING YOU THESE PICTURES TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF THE URBAN CORE ITSELF. YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, THE 4 0 7 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING, WHICH IS SOME HUNDRED 84 FEET ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT IS THE 400 BLOCK, WHICH IS OWNED BY AMBASSADOR SEJA. THEN THERE'S THE 1601 WASHINGTON AVENUE BUILDING, THE FORMER L AND R HEADQUARTERS IN THE CORNER OF 16TH AND WASHINGTON. THIS TRULY IS THE DOWNTOWN OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. UH, THIS IS A LOOK AT THE BLOCK, THE 400 BLOCK THAT'S OWNED BY AMBASSADOR SEJA. AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO ALSO UNDERSTAND IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THE FOUR 20 BUILDING, WHICH HE HAS, UH, CAREFULLY AND LOVINGLY RESTORED. SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER, BUT AFTER HE AC ACQUIRED THE BUILDING, HE RESTORED THE BLOCK, THE, UH, BLACK GLASS, UH, BLOCK IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT A LOT OF WHICH HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM ALL THE STOREFRONTS. HE RESTORED THE WINDOWS, HE'S RESTORED THE LOBBY WITH HIS FAMOUS MURAL BY, UH, KY. AND SO HE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE STEWARD OF ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE IN THIS CITY. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY OUTSIDE OF A HOTEL, I THINK IT IS THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THE CITY, THE CORNER AND THE GARAGE THAT WAS BUILT THERE, AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM HIM SHORTLY, WAS DESIGNED BY ENRIQUE NORTON, WHO'S ONE OF THE, UH, WORLD'S MOST FAMOUS ARCHITECTS. THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE CORNER THERE, THE, THE, UH, BUILDING ON THE CORNER, 16TH AND WASHINGTON, NOT CONTRIBUTING. AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL BUILDING AND BY HO HAUSER, WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THAT, WHICH IS, UH, NOT ONE OF HIS MORE IMPORTANT WORKS OF ARCHITECTURE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, CANNOT BE SAVED OR MOVED. UH, THIS ALSO SHOWS YOU, AGAIN, SOME OF THE CONTEXT OF THE HEIGHT AND THE IMMEDIATE AREA, BUT I THINK WAS IMPORTANT ALSO TO NOTE IS THE OVERARCHING GOALS OF THE CITY. THE CITY, UH, HAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SAYS THAT THIS CORRIDOR SHOULD HAVE HIGHER DENSITY ZONING TO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL USES. AND THE DENSITY THAT'S ALLOWED IN THIS CD TWO ZONING IS [00:15:01] 150 UNITS AN ACRE. HOWEVER, THE HEIGHT THAT IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW THIS DENSITY TO BE ACHIEVED. WHY DOES THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SET A GOAL OF MORE RESIDENTIAL THERE SO THAT YOU CAN HELP, UH, PROVIDE HOUSING? AND THIS IS RENTAL HOUSING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WORK, UH, IN THE URBAN CORE AREA AND NEARBY BUSINESSES. IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE MOST TRANSIT HEAVY AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AS CAR DEPENDENT. AND SO, AND IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON LINCOLN ROAD, WHICH I THINK COULD USE, UH, UH, YEAR-ROUND 24 7 KIND OF CLIENTELE INSTEAD OF JUST BEING DEPENDENT ON TOURISM. SO THIS IS A HIGH OBJECTIVE FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WELL THERE. THIS IS SHOWING AGAIN, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS. THAT'S THE HEIGHT OF OUR PROPOSED BUILDING. THAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE EXISTING, UH, BUILDING THAT'S ON SITE THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED, ONE OF WHICH IS CONTRIBUTING, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE CANNOT ENDURE THE PROCESS OF MOVING THE BUILDING. THIS WAS THE CASE BACK SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, AND IT IS THE CASE TODAY. THE FOUNDATION, UH, IS NEAR ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD CRUMBLE, UH, THE LOADS DURING THE JACKING PROCESS. THE MAIN STRUCTURAL MEMBERS ARE ALL COMPROMISED AND NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND I, I JUST LIKE TO PUT THIS IN AS ALSO ITS PROPER CONTEXT. HO HAUSER, OF COURSE, IS AN IMPORTANT ARCHITECT. THIS WAS NOT ONE OF HIS BETTER WORKS SUCH AS THE COLONY OR THE CARDOZO. BUT THE OTHER THING IS WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FOREST FOR THE TREES. THIS BLOCK, THE 400 BLOCK, CONTAINS A HUGE, BEAUTIFULLY RESTORED AND MAINTAINED HISTORIC BUILDING, THE FOUR 20 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR THE CITY'S NEEDS OF HOUSING. THIS SPOT HERE ON THIS PROPERTY IS, IS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL CAN BE BUILT, AND THAT'S WHY IT IS PROPOSED ON THAT SITE, ON THAT SITE. SO, AMBASSADORS, SEHA SHOULD BE LAUDED FOR THE WORK IS DONE IN PRESERVING ONE OF THE GREATEST AND LARGEST HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THE CITY, UH, AND RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY'S PURPOSES AND ALSO FOR STRUCTURAL REASONS THAT THIS BUILDING, UH, THE HO HAUSER BUILDING BE ALLOWED TO BE DEMOLISHED. UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ENRIQUE NORTON IN A MINUTE, BUT BEFORE I DO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE, UH, A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL, UH, POINTS AS WELL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEAL WITH IN PARTICULAR. ONE IS THAT THE, UH, ALLEY THAT BISECTS THE BLOCK SHOULD BE, UH, SHOULD BE CLOSED, AND THERE SHOULD BE STRUCTURE THERE. THE ALLEY IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE FUNCTIONING OF THIS BLOCK. IT ALLOWS SERVICE FOR THIS NEW PROPOSED BUILDING, THE FOUR 20 BUILDING, THE GARAGE WHERE TIMEOUT MARKET WAS, UH, TO BE INTERNALIZED IN THE BLOCK AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT ON WASHINGTON AVENUE OR DREXEL AVENUE. AND IT ACTUALLY IS A SUPERIOR RESULT IN TERMS OF URBAN PLANNING AND BENEFITING THE STREET SCAPE. AND SO, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT THAT CONDITION, UH, NOT BE INCLUDED, INCLUDED IN THE ORDER. UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ENRIQUE NORTON. WE'D ASK FOR A LITTLE ADDITIONAL TIME, MR. CHAIR, AND OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RESPOND AND REBUT TO ANY COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. QUE NICE TO SEE YOU. GREAT SEEING YOU AGAIN. UH, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE BACK HERE, YOU KNOW, AFTER MANY YEARS. WELL, I WAS HERE LAST, UH, THURSDAY, BUT I WASN'T WITH MY COLLEAGUES, SO REALLY HAPPY TO BE WITH ALL OF YOU AGAIN AND TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT, UH, THIS MORNING. UH, WELL, UH, NISSAN ALREADY MENTIONED MANY OF THE, OF THE ISSUES, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE REPETITIVE ABOUT IT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO EMPHASIZE IS PERHAPS, EH, UH, IT, WHY THIS PROJECT, UH, TO ME AT LEAST, IT'S SO IMPORTANT. UH, ONE, UH, THERE'S THREE ISSUES BASICALLY. ONE IS OBVIOUSLY THE SITE, WHICH, UH, NISAN ALREADY REFERRED TO. EH, I'VE KNOWN THE SITE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I, I'VE WORKED BEFORE WE DID THE, THE PARKING GARAGE THAT YOU WERE ALL AWARE FOR, THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE DID FOR MR. . WE HAD WORKED ON A, ON ANOTHER PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, I WOULD SAY THE ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE TIME COULDN'T GO THROUGH. UH, BUT I'VE BEEN SORT OF KNOWING [00:20:01] AND WORKING ON THIS AREA FOR, I WOULD SAY OVER 15 OR 18 YEARS. SO, UH, UH, I'M VERY HONORED THAT, UH, MR. SJA WOULD ASK ME AGAIN TO REVISE, TO REVIEW AND REVISE, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE AND NOW TO PROPOSE THIS NEW SORT OF CONDITION. THE SECOND ONE IS BECAUSE I DO LOVE VERY MUCH THE CONTENT WE CALL AND, AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE? AND WE CAN'T. NICE. I'LL WEAR IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE THEN. WHAT'S THAT? UH, WOULD YOU LIKE FOUR MINUTES? OH, FIVE MINUTES? OH, I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED TO. NO, NO, JUST, JUST GIMME A NUMBER AND WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT. OKAY. LET'S DO SIX MINUTES. SIX MINUTES, GOT IT. OKAY. HARD BARGAIN. OKAY. SIX MINUTES. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE SECOND IS THE CONTENT. LIKE, I REALLY LOVE THE PROGRAM BECAUSE HERE I AM NOW WORKING NOT FOR THE TOURISTS OF THE, OF THE CITY, NOT FOR THE VERY, VERY WEALTHY OF THE CITY, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY ACTIVATE THE CITY, WHICH ARE THE WORKERS OF THE CITY THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THEM NEW HOUSING AND, AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NEAR THERE, WHERE THEY WORK. AND THE, THE, THE THIRD ONE IS OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH, UH, PAUL SEJA, WHICH IS SUCH A PILLAR OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND OBVIOUSLY HE NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION. THIS IS A FANTASTIC TEAM WORKING WITH FORMER, UH, MAYOR CASTING, WORKING WITH MR. SJA. UH, IT IS JUST, I COULDN'T FEEL IN A BETTER COMPANY. I FEEL REALLY HUMBLED BY ALL OF THIS. UH, I SHOULD SAY THAT THE PROJECT REALLY, THIS PROJECT REALLY IS ABOUT TWO VERY IMPORTANT THINGS. ONE IS ABOUT, UH, UNDERSTANDING A PART OF THE HISTORY OF MIAMI BEACH, WHICH IS THE MODERN PERIOD OF MIAMI BEACH, AND WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF, UH, THIS CENTRAL CORE OF MIAMI BEACH WAS BUILT OFF AND REINTERPRETING, AND BRINGING THAT MODERNITY INTO A VERY CONTEMPORARY MANNER. WE'RE COMMITTED TO, TO CREATE A CUTTING EDGE BUILDING, A MODERN, CUTTING EDGE BUILDING, OR CONTEMPORARY MODERN, CUTTING EDGE BUILDING THAT WILL ALSO BE ABSOLUTELY SUSTAINABLE, BOTH IN A ENVIRONMENTAL MANNER, BUT ALSO IN A SOCIAL MANNER, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. SUSTAINABILITY GOES WAY BEYOND ONLY OUR ENVIR, OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND THE SECOND ONE IS, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS BUILDING IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE PARAMETERS AND THE TEXTURE OF THE CITY. IT'S ABOUT REINFORCING ITS PUBLIC SPACES AND IT REINFORCING ITS ORIGINAL GRID. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BUILDING IS ABOUT. IT'S NOT ABOUT BIG GYMNASTICS. IT'S NOT ABOUT A BIG, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, BIG JUMPS AROUND, UH, IN AND OUT. IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING A VERY ELEGANT AND SOPHISTICATED SIMPLE BUILDING. SIMPLICITY IS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE TO ACHIEVE IN ARCHITECTURE, AS YOU ALL, AS YOU ALL KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THRIVING FOR. UH, WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ALREADY THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STAFF. I READ PERSONALLY A WEEK AGO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND, UH, I COULD, UH, WE HAVE ALREADY, UH, WELL, UH, NISSAN ALREADY, UH, REFERRED TO THE, TO THE ISSUE OF THE ALLEY. THE ALLEY IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. I AM GONNA GO VERY FAST BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN ALL THESE, ALL THESE THINGS. UH, WE HAVE REVISED AND REVIEWED AND REVISED THE FACADES, WHICH WAS A ABSOLUTELY RIGHT COMMENT. AND WE HAVE ADDED THE BRIZO LALES ALREADY TO THE SOUTHERN FACADE AND MAINTAINED THE LESSER CONDITIONS OF BRIZO LALES IN THE NORTHERN FACADE AS THEIR, AS THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED. EH, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO SEE THOSE IN THE, IN THE RENDERINGS, BUT I, WE'VE INCLUDED A SECTION HERE THAT SHOWS THAT INTRODUCTION, UH, REGARDING THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT THE RAMP. UH, IN THE RAMP. UH, WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S TWO ISSUES. ONE, WE NEED TO RAISE THE, THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE NEW FLOODING CODES OF THE CITY. SO THAT REQUIRES A RAMP FOR A DA. SO WE'VE HAD TO ACCOMMODATE THE RAMP WHERE WE BELIEVE MAKES THE LEAST, EH, EH, NOISE OR MAKES THE, THE LEAST HARM TO THE CONTINUITY OF THE, OF THE CITY. AND I THINK THOSE WERE BASICALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES. SO, UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED ALREADY. AND, AND, UH, JUST TO FINISH THIS, I STILL HAVE TWO MINUTES, BUT I'LL, I'LL FINISH EARLY. JOHN , UH, I, I REALLY THINK, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS, AS [00:25:01] I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I PRESENT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE HAVE HAD THE, THE GREAT PRIVILEGE TO BUILD ALREADY SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH AND IN THE AREA. YOU HAVE BEEN AS A COMMISSION GENEROUS ENOUGH TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE, BELIEVE THAT WE'VE NEVER LET YOU DOWN. SO I'M HERE REALLY AGAIN, TO ASK YOU, AS WE SAY IN SPANISH FOR, UM, DE CONZA, FOR ANOTHER, UH, VOTE OF TRUST. UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY CLIENTS, UH, AND UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY SURE THAT WE WILL ALL BE VERY PROUD OF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS. SURE. UH, NUMBER ONE, THE ADDITION OF THE BREACH SOLEIL THAT ENRIQUE IS TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT IN YOUR PACKAGE, BUT ARE DISPLAYED ON THE BOARDS HERE. AND THIS IS A MODIFICATION WE'RE MILLING, UH, WILLING OF COURSE TO ACCOMMODATE BASED ON THE STAFF'S COMMENTS. THE SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, I THINK YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED, THERE HAVE BEEN ENDORSEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT BY BOTH THE LINCOLN ROAD AND THE WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, BOTH OF WHICH VIEW THIS AS CRITICAL TO THE, UH, PROSPERITY AND STABILITY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. DOES THAT, UH, CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO ARE THERE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, LET'S, WE'LL GO RIGHT, RANDY, WE WILL PUT DOWN THE LINE, UM, ON THE RENDERING, TRYING TO FIND THE PAPERWORK. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE YEAH, MIC, I'M SORRY. YEAH. ON THE RENDERING, THE PROSPECTIVE RENDERING PAGE A 4 0 1, WHICH IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, FACING THE CORNER OF WASHINGTON, IT APPEARS THERE'S, THE REFLECTIONS ON THE WINDOWS INDICATE A LOT MORE RAILINGS THAN I'M SEEING ON THE BUILDING, ELEVATION WISE. IS THE RENDERING JUST INCORRECT? YOU'RE SAYING THE RENDERING THAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU NOW, OR THE RENDERING THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE? THIS ONE, YOU, WHEN YOU GO UP THE BUILDING, IT APPEARS THERE ARE RAILINGS ON THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF EVERY FLOOR. YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE NEW RAIL RAILS. THE, THE THING IS THAT IN THAT RENDERING THAT WE HAD SENT BEFORE, IT'S VERY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO READ THOSE RAILINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY THIN AND IN THE CONTEXT OF THE, OF THE WHOLE BUILDING, THEY DON'T READ VERY WELL. SO WE TRY TO ENHANCE THEM IN THE NEW RENDERINGS THAT ARE HERE ON THE BOARD. AND, AND YOU HAVE THAT EXACT RENDERING RIGHT HERE IN THE NEW VERSION? OH, I CAN'T SEE IT. MAYOR, I'M SORRY, JOHN. OKAY. I CAN'T, I'M, I'M SORRY. RANDY, CAN I GO AHEAD. ARE THEY, I CAN'T SEE. IT IS, ARE THEY VERTICAL PICKETS OR HORIZONTAL? UH, THEY'RE RAILS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE HORIZONTAL. THEY'RE ALL HORIZONTAL, UH, PIECES OF, OF ALUMINUM, OF OLE, THEY'RE ALL HORIZONTAL AND THEY, THEY BECOME THE RES, BUT THEN THEY GO DOWN. PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. SO, YEAH, SORRY, SORRY. UM, YOU GOTTA SPEAK INTO THE MIC. IS THERE A HOLD? IS THERE, SORRY, A HOLDING A HELD MIC UP THERE TOO? I DON'T, NO. OKAY. YEAH, WE HAVE A SECTION HERE. IF YOU CAN, CAN I BRING IT UP CLOSER TO YOU THAT THAT EXPLAINS THAT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU ARE SHOWING IT CORRECTLY THAT THERE IS A RAILING ON THE TOP OF THE BALCONY AS WELL. I, YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, IT'S IN THE PICTURE, BUT I COULDN'T SEE IT IN THE OKAY. I KNOW, I KNOW. SO THERE'S A RAILING ACROSS EVERY BALCONY ON THE BOTTOM? THAT'S CORRECT. FOR THE NORMAL HEIGHT REQUIRED, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A RAILING ACROSS EVERY TOP OF HER. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. UM, ALSO ON THE ROOF, IT SHOWS A SECTION OF THE TOP OF THE ROOF AS HAVING A GLASS RAILING AROUND THE TOP. AND THE PICTURE SHOWS JUST GLASS RAILING WITH A DECK. YET YOUR RENDERINGS ALL SHOW LANDSCAPING ON THE ENTIRE EDGE OF THE ROOF. IS THAT TRULY GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED AROUND THE OUTSIDE EDGE? YEAH, IT WILL BE LANDSCAPED ON THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE DECK, YES. YES. OKAY. DOES THAT HAVE A GLASS RAILING IN FRONT OF IT? IT'S POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY IT'LL BE A GLASS RAILING. OKAY. SO WE CAN SEE THE, THE . THANK YOU. UH, YEAH, CAN YOU, MAYBE YOU CAN PUT THE MIC ON THE PODIUM AND THEN WE CAN JUST HAVE THAT, UM, IN CASE WE NEED TO REFER TO ANY OF THESE, UM, THESE DRAWINGS. UM, RAY, RAY, UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO IT'S ON THE RECORD, HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS ARE THERE GOING TO BE AND WHAT IS YOUR, UH, UH, YOU SAY THEY'RE AFFORDABLE OR ATTAINABLE? UM, I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE, UM, COWANS PARK WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT, THE CITY'S FIRST PROJECT. AND A WORKFORCE PRICE OF A STUDIO IS 2385. NOW THAT'S HARDLY WORKFORCE PRICING. [00:30:01] AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE YOU BUILD A BUILDING LIKE THIS THAT IS REALLY UNATTAINABLE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN. SO, I'D LIKE FURTHER CLARIFICATION. THIS IS, UH, GOING TO PLANNED ON BEING A 210 UNIT RENTAL BUILDING. IT'LL BE MARKET RATE, UH, BUT THERE WILL BE CERTAIN, THE PROPOSED ZONING, WHICH WILL, UH, ALLOW, THIS WILL ALSO HAVE A, UH, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A COVENANT THAT PROHIBITS ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS OR VACATION RENTALS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL BE MARKET MARKET RATE. I WOULD POINT OUT, I THINK THERE IS BEEN ONE MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING BUILT IN THIS CITY IN THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS. PROBABLY. WELL, YOU MAY AS WELL CONSIDER THE WORKFORCE HOUSING BUILDING THEY BUILT IN MAR THREE . OKAY. IS THAT IT, RIGHT? YEP, YOU'RE FINISHED. OKAY, PERFECT. ASCO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH. UH, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN SOME EFFORT TO, UH, PAY SOME HOMAGE OR RESPECT TO THE HO HOUSER STRUCTURE. I DON'T THINK OF IT AS INSIGNIFICANT. UH, I ALSO MANAGE A, UH, FOR THE LAST 33 YEARS, UH, A A A HO HAUSER BUILDING THAT, UH, I OFTEN COMPARE THE TWO OR, OR LOOK AT THE TWO AS SIBLINGS. THEY SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS. UH, THE PORT HOLES, UH, STAFF REFERS TO, UH, THE HORIZONTAL FLUTING. UH, ON THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO MY PROPERTY, IT WAS REFERRED TO AS COMB STUCCO. THE ARTICULATION OF THE PARA PARAPET IN TERMS OF, UH, THE UNDULATION, A LITTLE NUANCES. UH, TO ME, THIS BUILDING'S, UH, IMPORTANT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOME EFFORT, UH, TO SAVE, UH, THE FACADE AND A LITTLE EXTRA IF, IF, IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR RESPOND. OH, UM, YEAH, FOR SURE. YEAH. WAS THAT A QUESTION? IT WAS KIND OF A STATEMENT. STATEMENT, YEAH. IF THERE WAS A QUESTION THERE, THEN YEAH, NO QUESTION. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. IF IN THIS CITY, SOMETIMES THE STATEMENTS ARE QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND VERY, VERY OFTEN. THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH, UM, THROUGH OUR, OUR QUESTIONS TO THIS PART. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OKAY. YOU KNOW, DISCLOSURES, PUBLIC HEARING. UM, ELIZABETH NO, I JUST WANNA ASK IF THOSE ELEVATIONS, THEY REFLECT THE NEW BRISTOL LAYER OR NOT? 'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE THEM HERE. I SAW IN THE SECTION, BUT NOT ON THE TWO DRAWINGS. WHAT WAS IT? SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT IT? MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN HOLD THIS CLOSER TO US. THE RENDERING THAT SHOWS THE NEW, WITH THE NEW BRIS SOLE. YEAH. I CAN'T SEE THE NEW, THE PROPOSED NEW BRIS SOLE IN THIS ONE. WITH YOUR NEW, WITH YOUR MIC TURNED ON. YEAH. LET'S SEE IF WE MIC, BUT THAT DOESN'T SHOW THE PIECE THAT GOES BELOW. YEAH, SURE. THERE, THERE BELOW. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. OH, OKAY. YEAH, SORRY. IT'S JUST LIKE THE WAY THE RENDER IS DONE, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEAD. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL STILL OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, STUDY CLOSER AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BRI LAY IS REALLY WORKING TO PROTECT THE FACADE. OKAY. UH, THAT'S IT. THAT IT? THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. LINDSAY, NO, NO QUESTIONS. UM, AND MY ONLY, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE TWO ALLEYS, THE, THE ALLEY ON WASHINGTON AND THE ALLEY OFF OF SIX, UH, AND THE LOADING ENTRANCE ON 16TH AND HOW THEY, HOW YOU THINK THEY'D BE USED? THEY ARE, THOSE WOULD BE THE INTERNAL SERVICE ALLEYS, WHICH WOULD SERVICE THINGS SUCH AS GARBAGE AND OTHER FREIGHT LOADING FOR THIS BUILDING, AS WELL AS THE TIMEOUT MARKET, BUILDING THE GARAGE. RIGHT. UH, WHICH OF COURSE IS ALWAYS A PREFERRED CONDITION TO HAVE THAT INTERNALIZED IN AN ALLEY RATHER THAN HAVE ANOTHER ACCESS FROM A STREET, PARTICULARLY PEDESTRIAN STREETS LIKE WASHINGTON OR DREXEL. SO THERE WOULD BE WHAT, ZARA? YEAH, ZARA. THE ZARA STORE AS WELL. SURE, SURE. WHICH OF COURSE IS NOW, UH, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED INTO A FLAGSHIP ZARA STORE. SURE, YEAH. AND, UH, SO THEY, THEY BOTH HAVE A GATE ON THEM, CORRECT? THE THE ONE ON WASHINGTON WOULD BE GATED, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT. WOULD THE WASHINGTON BE A, WOULD HAVE, WOULD IT HAVE VEHICLE ACCESS OR WOULD IT SIMPLY BE WELL, THERE ON WASHINGTON, THERE IS OF WASHINGTON, BUT I KNOW THERE'S 16TH. BUT THE PLAN, I THOUGHT THE PLAN SHOWS WASHINGTON. NO, IT'S ON WA IT'S ON WA IT SHOWS THAT A SPACE BETWEEN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH, TO THE NORTH OF THE, THAT'S PEDESTRIAN ONLY ACCESS. YEAH, YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. NOT [00:35:01] VEHICULAR. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. HOW, SO IS IT PEDESTRIAN FOR JUST THOSE WHO ARE USING, ACCESSING THE LOADING AREA? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. GOT IT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS. SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE'LL GO TO, UM, BOARD DISCLOSURES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY DISCLOSURES TO MAKE ON THIS PROJECT? NO, NO, NO AND NO. AND SO WE WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT. THERE'S NOBODY ON LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? UH, GOOD MORNING. I'M JULIE ISAACSON. I'M A MEMBER OF MD P'S ADVOCACY COMMITTEE AND I'M OFFERING OUR POSITION ON THIS PROPOSED PROJECT MDPL POSITION OF 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE. WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR THE MARKET RATE HOUSING ON MIAMI BEACH, WE OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING HENRY HO HAUSER STREAMLINED MODERN BUILDING AND THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED APARTMENT BUILDING IN 2018, CITY PRESERVATION STAFF DESCRIBED THIS BUILDING AS HAVING A HIGH DEGREE OF HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY WITH ONLY LIMITED MODIFICATIONS AND COMMENDED THE APPLICANT FOR PROPOSING TO RETAIN AND RESTORE IT. NOW, YEARS LATER, THE SAME OWNER SAYS THE BUILDING CANNOT BE SAVED. A CLEAR CASE OF DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT, WHERE THEY HAVE ALLOWED A PREVIOUSLY INTACT CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO DETERIORATE THE JUSTIFY ITS DEMOLITION. WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE DESIGN LACKS ARTICULATION PROPORTION AND CONTEXTUAL SENSITIVITY. THE DESIGN LACKS, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE MINIMAL SETBACK STACK AT THE GROUND LEVEL COMBINED WITH THE HEIGHT COULD LEAD TO A CLAUSTROPHOBIC STREET, STREET SCAPE, NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A DENSE, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE EXPANSIVE GLASS FACADES, PARTICULARLY THE EXTREMELY WIDE ELEVATION ALONG 16TH STREET, LACK ANY MEANING, ANY MEANINGFUL ART, ARTICULATION OR DESIGN FEATURES THAT WOULD BREAK UP THE MASSING THE BUILDING READS AS A GENERIC MODERN CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD BE LOCATED ANYWHERE RATHER THAN A THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED STRUCTURE THAT REPRESENTS ITS LOCATION IN THE HEART OF MIAMI BEACH'S HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. IN CONTRAST, THE 2018 APPROVED DESIGN INCORPORATED CURVED ELEMENTS, EYEBROWS AND ARTICULATED RETAIL THAT WAS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ART DECO AND MY O CHARACTER. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED HEIGHT INCREASE FROM BY, I'M SORRY, I HAD TO LAUGH OUT. THIS IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED HEIGHT INCREASE FROM THE BY RIGHT 100 FEET TO 150 FEET, WHICH IS CONTINGENT ON PENDING LEGISLATION. IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN WITH ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND FAR BEYOND WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED, WE STRONGLY URGE THAT SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFITS BE REQUIRED, INCLUDING A PROPER RESTRICTING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND INCREASED PROPORTION OF TWO BEDROOM UNITS TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES RATHER THAN THE PREDOMINANTLY STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM CONFIGURATION PROPOSED. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A DESIGN THAT DEMONSTRATES ARCHITECTURAL MERIT AND COMPATIBILITY WITH HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT HAS CHARACTERIZED THIS PROJECT AS INTENTIONALLY MODEST AND DESIGNED TO REDUCE COSTS. WE BELIEVE THAT IF OUR COMMUNITY IS TO GRANT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTAL RIGHTS, WE SHOULD EXPECT ARCHITECTURE OF SUBSTANCE THAT WILL BE VALUED BY FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT MERELY THE MOST GENERIC FORM POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANNABEL. GOOD MORNING CHAIR. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS. ANNABEL YPE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LINCOLN ROAD BID TO SAY HOW SUPPORTIVE WE ARE OF THIS PROJECT. WE THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO THE GROWTH AND FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT, NOT JUST LINCOLN ROAD, BUT WASHINGTON AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. WE NEED MORE YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS. WE NEED YOUNG PROFESSIONALS MOVING INTO OUR DISTRICT THAT CAN REALLY SERVICE THE BUSINESSES, THE RESTAURANTS, THE CAFES. THERE'S A TON OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS WHO WILL LOVE TO LIVE ON A BEACH [00:40:01] IN A NICE APARTMENT. THEY WORK IN MOUNT SINAI, THEY WORK IN LAW OFFICES, AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE REALLY NICE AREAS FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO. UM, I ALSO DO WANNA MENTION THE ALLEYWAY. UM, AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, DREXEL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. IT'S BEING RENOVATED. IT WILL BECOME PEDESTRIANIZED GOING FROM THE ALLEYWAY, UM, WHERE THE TIMEOUT MARKET IS GOING NORTH. SO THAT WHOLE AREA IS REALLY BEING ELEVATED. WE'RE EXCITED WITH ZARA BEING A FLAGSHIP STORE WHERE EXCITED. THE 400 BLOCK IS ALSO GONNA BE RENOVATED, SO THIS WILL REALLY BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREA. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE ARE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT IS GOING ON HERE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I GUESS THAT CONCLUDES THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT. NO, NO ONE'S ONLINE. NO ONE'S ONLINE. NO ONE'S ONLINE. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE YES, SIR. AND JUST SOME BRIEF, BRIEF, UH, RESPONSES AND COMMENTARY. NUMBER ONE, WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED, IN PARTICULAR, THE HO HAUSER BUILDING, THE PLAN THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO CONTEMPLATED, DEMOLISHING MOST OF THAT BUILDING ANYWAY. IT WAS GOING TO MOVE THE FACADE OR THE FRONT PORTION, ATTEMPT TO MOVE IT AND THEN PUT A PLACE OF WHERE THE ALLEY IS. IT WAS NOT IN A CONDITION BACK THEN. IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE BACK THEN TO DO THAT. AND IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TODAY TO, UH, UH, TO, UH, TO MOVE IT TODAY EITHER. SO, UH, THAT'S NOT REALLY, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA BLOCK THE ALLEY, WHICH IS A NECESSARY SERVICE, UH, FOR SERVICE WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AS WELL. AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MR. NOVAK DOES OWN A HO HAUSER BUILDING. AND HO HAUSER WAS ONE OF THE GREAT ARCHITECTS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF THAT BEING A CORNER BUILDING WHERE IT IS HIGHLY VISIBLE. MINE'S NOT, YOURS IS NOT, BUT IT'S HIGHLY, IT'S A HIGHLY VISIBLE ONE ON COLLINS AVENUE. THAT'S, UH, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, UH, A FIRM MCKAY AND GIBBS, UH, ONE OF THEM, I BELIEVE IT WAS GIBBS, WORKED FOR HO HAUSER, UH, IN THE THIRTIES. WELL, IT'S A CORNER BUILDING. THIS BUILDING DOES NOT, IS BURIED IN THE BLOCK. IN FACT, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS 10 DPL, ONE OF THEIR, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAID IT'S, UH, A BUILDING THAT IS, UH, UN UNNOTICEABLE. AND SO, BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE IS THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. UH, AND THE ENTIRETY OF THE BLOCK REPRESENTS ONE OF THE GREATEST PRESERVATION EFFORTS IN THIS TOWN WITH MR. SEA HAVING BOUGHT, RESTORED THE FACADES, RESTORED THE LOBBY OF THE FOUR 20. BUILDING THIS UNDER THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT. WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. AND BY THE WAY, I WOULD SAY COMPARED TO OTHER ASKS IN THE CITY IN RECENT YEARS, THIS IS A VERY, THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE HEIGHT AND THE FAR INCREASE IS VERY MODEST. WE'RE ASKING FOR A 0.5 INCREASE IN FAR, WHICH IS LESS THAN 20% INCREASE IN WHAT THE CURRENT FAR ALLOWS. WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF HEIGHT OF ONLY 50 FEET. SO, AND THE REASON WHY THESE ARE BEING ASKED FOR IS THESE ARE, WERE THE BARE MINIMUMS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER A VIABLE PRODUCT. THE PRODUCT THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE, LESSER U FEWER UNITS, 160 FEET AND WAS NOT FEASIBLE CONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE GOAL OF THE CITY. THE VISION FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE AND LINCOLN ROAD OF CREATING HOUSING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AREA, UH, WE HAVE AGREED AS, AS YOU'VE SEEN, UH, AS PRESENTED BY ENRIQUE NORTON TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO CREATE THE BREEZE SOLE FOR THE, UH, FOR THE FACADE. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING WE WOULD ASK IS THAT, IS THAT WE OF COURSE NOT HAVE TO CLOSE THE ALLEY, WHICH IS CRITICAL FOR SERVICE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR, FOR, UH, HEARING OUR PRESENTATION AND HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS MOST CRITICAL PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS, UH, DOWNTOWN OF MIAMI BEACH. THANK YOU. CAN, CAN I JUST ASK, YOU MENTIONED THE ALLEY, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK AGAIN WHETHER THE ALLEY YOU ENVISION, 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT AN ARROW GOING OUT, OUT ONLY ON 16TH NOW. RIGHT NOW YOU CAN GO IN AND OUT ON 16TH. IS THAT THAT BOTH WAYS. OKAY. IT'S JUST ON THE DRAWINGS, IT'S, IT'S SHOWN LIKE IT'S A LOOP, BUT THEN YOU'D GO OUT ON DREXEL AND DREXEL'S PEDESTRIAN, SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW. RIGHT. 'CAUSE IT SERVICES ALL THE OTHER USES AS WELL. AND, AND THE ALLEY ON THE NORTH SIDE IS LABELED COURTYARD, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S LIKE A COURTYARD FOR PEOPLE OR A COURTYARD FOR LIKE SERVICE. AND YOU MENTIONED IT'S SERVICE. IT'S GOT STAIRS GOING UP, I THINK [00:45:01] IN THAT TOO. SO ANYWAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR. YES. JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, SO THE ACCESS FROM DREXEL WILL REMAIN RIGHT THERE, THERE IS A SERVICE ACCESS FROM DREXEL IN, IN THE, UM, PLANS, CORRECT? WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT IS TODAY, RIGHT? YES. AND HOW ALWAYS HAS BEEN? SO THERE WILL BE ACCESS FROM DREXEL. OH, YOU WILL. OKAY. AND WASHINGTON AND, SORRY, 16 SUITE WE'RE PROPOSING. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER COMMENT. SO RAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A BOARD MEMBER COMMENT? YES. UM, WHEN YOU SAY IT'S ONLY 50 FEET TALLER, THAT'S ONE THIRD TALLER. YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AS 50 FEET. UM, AND IF YOU WANNA RECEIVE MY VOTE ON THIS FOR A HEIGHT INCREASE, YOU HAVE TO ADD AFFORDABILITY UNITS OR YOU WILL NOT GET MY VOTE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. YEAH, AND I THINK, UM, JUST TO GIVE THE BOARD SOME GENERAL ADVICE ON THAT SUBJECT. UM, THE BOARD'S REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION, UM, IS SUBJECT TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CRITERIA IN THE CODE. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS DISCUSSED OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT. THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS FILED A PRIVATE APPLICATION FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL PROFFERS RELATING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABILITY, BUT ULTIMATELY YOUR DECISION MUST BE MADE BASED ON THE APPROPRIATENESS CRITERIA. AND NICK CAN BIZARRE WHILE I GOT YOU UP THERE. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES THAT WE NEED? IS IT, DO WE NEED FOUR VOTES FOR A STANDARD OR FIVE FIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING THAT'S BEING DEMOLISHED BECAUSE YOU HAVE DEMOLITION EXACTLY AT ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. EXCUSE ME. SO, YEP. NO, JUST A QUESTION FOR ME, ELIZABETH. JUST TO CLARIFY, MINE , YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HEIGHT VARIANCE? NO, NO, WE'RE NOT SEEKING A HEIGHT VARIANCE. WE'RE SEEKING. THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN AND THE DEMOLITION OF THE ONE BUILDING. THE, THE HEIGHT INCREASE AND THE FAR INCREASE ARE LEGISLATIVE MATTERS, WHICH ARE BEING CONSIDERED BY, THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. OKAY. ELIZABETH, YOU HAD A FOLLOW UP WITH NICK, DID YOU? OH, NO. SO MAYBE I SHOULD ASK. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL GET AROUND TO EVERYBODY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? CAN YOU, IF WE GO THROUGH THE YEAH, JUST WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT SINCE YOU HAVE YOUR MIC ON AND YOU SEEM READY TO GO? SURE. SURE. NISSAN, YOU MEANT MENTIONED A 0.5 FAR INCREASE, BUT THAT IS SLATED TO TAKE PLACE, UH, ALONG THE ENTIRE WASHINGTON, A AVENUE CORRIDOR, UH, SOUTH TO 15TH STREET, CORRECT? UH, WELL ACTUALLY THE PROPOSED WASHINGTON OVERLAY CONTEMPLATES A, UH, HIGHER INCREASE IN FAR FOR THE REST OF WASHINGTON AVENUE UP TO 4.0. THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE LESS, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN IS PROPOSED EVEN IN THE WASHINGTON OVERLAY. WELL, AND, AND THE HEIGHT, UH, IT WOULD BE 15 STORIES REGARDLESS OF THE, UH, OUR, OUR HEIGHT WOULD BE, UH, GO GO GOING SOUTH AS WELL. NO, I THINK, UH, I, I'M, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE HEIGHT PROPOSED IS. I THINK IT'S, UM, 75 TO A HUNDRED, 200 FEET. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE ONLY, THE ONLY BLOCK THAT'S, THAT CAN GET, THEY CAN GO TO THE 150 FEET IS THIS BLOCK, WHICH IS PART OF THE, UM, THE CENTRAL COURT DISTRICT. RIGHT, BUT THE FAR THERE OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEKING A SIGNIFICANT FOR THE OVERLAY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. WE'RE SEEKING THE MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I HOPE THIS DOESN'T BECOME SORT OF NO GOOD DEGOS UNPUNISHED. WE'RE NOT, WE COULD DO LIVE LOCAL, THE WASHINGTON AVENUE OVERLAY PROVIDES FOR SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FAR. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO THE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A MARKET RATE RENTAL BUILDING. AND, AND THAT, AND THAT'S THE CONTEXT I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYONE COULD APPRECIATE. AND THAT THAT'S CORRECT. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THIS BLOCK, THIS AREA WOULD HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FAR INCREASE FURTHER, FURTHER DOWN ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. THE PROPOSAL WOULD RAISE IT FROM 1.5 TO FOUR, RIGHT. 1.5 TO TWO TO FOUR. SO THE, THE REST OF WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THE CD TWO WOULD HAVE A MUCH MORE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN PROPOSED FAR DOUBLING EFFECTIVELY. SO IS THIS CD TWO OR CD THREE? THIS IS CD THREE. AND WOULD THAT INCREASE BE VOTED ON BY THE, BY THE, BY THE COMMISSION ONLY, OR WOULD IT HAVE TO GO TO A PUBLIC REFERENDUM? THAT'S, UM, ONLY THE STATE COMMISSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, BACK TO THE HO HAUSER STRUCTURE. UH, I I I, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE SOME EFFORT, UH, TO RETAIN THE, UH, WHAT IS IT, THE, UH, SOUTH ELEVATION AND A, UH, AND A PORTION OF THE EAST ELEVATION, UH, JUST BEYOND THE EYEBROW OVER THERE. IF THAT'S, UH, POSSIBLE. UH, IT'S CERTAINLY DOABLE. UH, THAT BUILDING IS NOT AN IMMINENT THREAT OR THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS NOT AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC. WELL, ALRIGHT. UH, [00:50:01] AND UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I UNDERSTAND COULD FEASIBLY BE DONE. I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE IT, BUT OUR ENGINEER IS SAYING ACTUALLY THAT WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE TO BE DONE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MR. NOVA. GOOD MORNING. UH, IT'S, UH, THE BUILDING IS IN BAD SHAPE, UH, AND FROM, UH, FROM A TESTING POINT OF VIEW WHERE WE TESTED FOR THE COMPRESSIVE, UH, STRENGTH OF CONCRETE AND WE WERE GETTING NUMBERS ABOUT 1,500 PSI. YEAH. , YOU CAN CHANGE COLUMNS, YOU CAN CHANGE TIE BEAMS. I'M NOT ASKING FOR VERY MUCH. AND THAT'S DONE REGULARLY. YEAH, I, I, OKAY. UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE COLUMNS, CHANGE TIE BEAMS, CHANGE WALLS, OF COURSE I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT COURSE YOU OF A SMALL PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE. UM, I UNDERSTAND, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE ARCHITECTS OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. IT'S, IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO, TO SAY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD WE DO, BUT FROM, FROM AN ASSESSMENT POINT OF VIEW OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING IS IN BAD SHAPE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, DID YOU HAVE MORE? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ? YEAH. UM, ON A 3 0 2 ON SHEET A 3 0 2, THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS REALLY 170 FEET. IT'S NOT 150, RIGHT? CORRECT. I, I THINK I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY MEASURING IT FROM, UH, NGVD. NO. YEAH. HUNDRED FEET. CAN YOU PULL IT UP? CAN WE PULL UP THE, UM, DRAWING THE HEIGHT, THE, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH PAGE SHEET? UH, DRAWING SHEET A DASH 3 0 2. THAT WOULD BE THE VIEW FROM WASHINGTON AVENUE. I THINK. HOLD, GIVE US ONE MOMENT. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY DREXEL, BUT IT'S ON THE, WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I THINK IT'S DREXEL, BUT, BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME. IS SECTION THROUGH 16 GOING UP? CORRECT. THAT ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 8 3 0 2. IT'S STILL HUNDRED 70. THE BUILDING IS 150 FEET. WHAT, WHAT IS THE QUESTION EXACTLY? UH, WELL, A 3 0 2, CAN WE PULL UP A 3 0 2 ON THE, OF THE ROOF OF THIS STRUCTURE IS 170 FEET, NOT 150 FEET. LET, LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE DRAWING TOGETHER. IS THAT MAKE SURE WE GET, WE'RE READING IT CORRECTLY THEN THAT'S MEASURED FROM THE SIDEWALK. THE ROOFTOP IS AT 1 59 IN GVD AND THEN OBVIOUSLY NINE IN GVD IS GROUND LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE 50. RIGHT. AND YOU START MEASURING HEIGHT FROM, UH, AT BASELINE ELEVATION. A BASELINE ELEVATION PLUS ONE PLUS ONE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, IT'S A HUNDRED. IT IS 150 FEET. THE BUILDING IS 150 FEET. WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS THE ELEVATOR OVERRIDES THE, UH, CAN, CAN WE LOOK AT THE DRAWING TOGETHER? CAN WE, CAN WE JUST LOOK IT UP? THE DRAWING TOGETHER, WHICH, UH, IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT THAT ONE. IT'S THE A DASH 3 0 2. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT IN THIS. UH, WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION. IT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE PACKAGE, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION. RIGHT. AND OF COURSE YOU'RE ALLOWED PROJECTIONS. UH, THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S THE ONE. SO AROUND THE EIGHTH FLOOR, IT SHOWS THE 150 FEET. IT'S REPRESENTED IN THE DRAWING. I GUESS THAT IS MY POINT. SO WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS THE ROOFTOP AT 159 FEET. NGBD, WHICH IS BASICALLY 69. I'M LOOKING THE DRAWING THAT SAYS ROOFTOP A HUNDRED IS 69 FEET, EIGHT INCHES. NGBD. YEAH, THAT'S THE TOP. ESSENTIALLY THAT'S ROOF, THE EQUIVALENT OF 17 STORIES RIGHT HERE. SO IF WE HAVE A HEIGHT, MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE AREA OF A HUNDRED FEET. SO JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE MEASURE THE HEIGHT FROM THE BASE FLAT ELEVATION HERE, PLUS ONE TO THE TOP OF THE ROOF DECK. THAT'S THE ONE 50. RIGHT. THE COAT ALSO ALLOWS UP TO 25 FEET BEYOND THAT FOR, UM, PARAPET WALLS, ELEVATOR ENCLOSURES, STAIRWELLS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT DOES NOT COUNT AGAINST THE MR. HEIGHT. I SHOULD, SHOULD SAY WE CURRENTLY ALLOW 120 FEET. YOU, YOU GENTLEMEN? YES. BUILDING IS, WE CURRENTLY ALLOW 120 FEET CONCURRENTLY THE CODE PROVIDES FOR, ALLOWS FOR A HUNDRED FEET. OKAY. AND, UH, RIGHT. AND SO THIS WOULD BE 150 FEET AND AS HEIGHT, AS MEASURED AS FROM BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ALLOWABLE PROJECTIONS ABOVE. UH, CAN YOU HELP US, JOSE? CAN YOU JUST HELP US READ THE ELEVATION? LET, LET ME EXPLAIN. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS DRAWING HERE, THERE ARE TWO DIMENSIONS. NUMBER ONE IS 150 [00:55:01] FEET. YOU SEE THE DIMENSION LINE FROM BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS ONE TO THE TOP OF THE ROOF. THAT'S 150. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, 161 OR 159 IS NGVD. RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS THE MEASUREMENT THAT IS ABOVE, UH, SEA LEVEL. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE 150 FEET AS PER THE CODE. SO IF WE ADD UP, THERE ARE TWO SETS OF NUMBERS. THERE'S A, AND THIS IS JUST SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND. YOU CAN ADD 'EM UP. NO, NO. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT TWO SETS OF NUMBERS, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR, YOU'VE GOT THE 14 FEET, EIGHT INCHES, THEN NINE FEET, EIGHT, NINE FEET, EIGHT, NINE FEET, EIGHT, NINE FEET, EIGHT GOING ALL THE WAY UP. IF YOU ADD THOSE UP ON THAT SIDE, YOU'D BE AT 150 FEET. 150 FEET. FEET. THAT'S I WANTED. THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT YOU JUST ADD, NEED TO ADD THAT THE NINE FEET, THAT'S THE, THE NINE FEET, THAT'S THE SEAL, UM, BASE PLUS ONE. AND THERE IS ANOTHER 10 FOOT EIGHT THAT'S FROM THE ROOF THAT CONTROL THE OF THE BULK. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. CORRECT. THANK YOU. SORRY. NO, IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOOD. WE ALL NEED LESSONS IN THESE WITH THE NGVD AND NAVD. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED LESSONS THAN THAT. MY POINT IS, IF I'M STANDING AT THE STREET LEVEL, I'M LOOKING AT A 17 STORY BUILDING, NOT 150 FOOT STORE, HUNDRED 50 FOOT BUILDING. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WHAT IS THE, UM, 0.5 FAR INCREASE TRANSLATE INTO IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE BUILDING? I'M NOT SURE EXACT, UH, EXACTLY. IT'S 0.5. IT'S PROBABLY THE, THE PROPERTY SIZE. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? LOT SIZE SQUARE. HOW MUCH? 30,000. 30,000 IS A LOT SIZE. 67. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT 30,000 SQUARE FEET. ADDITIONAL 30,000 SQUARE FEET. AND WHAT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING? 16. I THINK THE, THE LAND IS ABOUT 16,000 SQUARE FEET. SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S TWO. THERE ARE SOME SETBACKS. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY TWO FLOORS, TWO AND A HALF, TWO FLOORS. I MEAN, I WOULD REPEAT THAT. UH, THIS PROJECT ISN'T FEASIBLE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ATTAIN THIS. AND IT IS, AS, AS MR. CIA HAS POINTED OUT, IS MUCH LESS THAN THE WASHINGTON AVENUE OVERLAY PROPOSES IN TERMS OF INCREASED FAR. UH, IT'S REALLY THE MINIMUM NECESSARY. UH, AND THEN THIS COMES WITH THE COV THE ZONING WHEN IT'S ADOPTED, IF IT'S ADOPTED, WILL COME WITH THE COVENANT TO HAVE NO SHORT TERM RENTALS. YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOTEL THERE. IT HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL. BUT THERE'S SO MANY IMPORTANT BENEFITS. EXCUSE ME. COULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON WHY DO YOU SAY THIS IS THE MINIMAL NECESSARY? I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION, SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO CLARIFY THAT. WELL, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. UH, AND THIS HAS BEEN ANALYZED VERY, UH, CLOSELY BY AMBASSADOR SEJA AND HIS TEAM. AND THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE, UH, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS AT A CERTAIN COST IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS HOUSING FEASIBLE. UH, PRIOR PROPOSALS, WHICH LOOKED AT, UH, SHORTER BUILDINGS AND FEWER UNITS, UH, UH, DID NOT WORK. AND SO, UM, IF I MAY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING FORWARD TO THIS CITY AND PROPOSING THESE LIVE. THIS COULD BE A LIVE LOCAL PROJECT. AND SO WHAT AMBASSADOR SAJA IS TRYING TO COME IN WITH IS REALLY THE MINIMUM NECESSARY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A VIABLE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, OF COURSE, HAS, HAS PROPOSED HIS LIVED BETTER, WHICH IS HOW CAN WE CHANGE THE CITY CODE TO FACILITATE MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, RENTAL HOUSING WITHOUT IT BEING WHAT LIVE LOCAL WOULD ALLOW THIS IS, IN MANY RESPECTS, IS THE POSTER CHILD FOR THAT. IF THIS, IF THIS PROJECT CAN'T BE APPROVED AND HAPPEN, THEN I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY AND LIVE LOCAL. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY OF SA SAYING TO PEOPLE, COME IN, BE REASONABLE IN YOUR ASK, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE CITY, WHICH IS TO CREATE RENTAL HOUSING. AND WE'LL BE SUPPORTIVE. UM, AND, AND, AND, AND THAT MS. CAMARGO IS HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THE SIZING, THE SCALE OF THIS PROJECT, PLUS THE FACT THAT THE BUILDINGS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA HAVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT. THIS IS MIAMI BEACH IS DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY. YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OH, DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE COMMENT OR AFTERWARDS? OKAY. WE, [01:00:01] IF I MAY, AMBASSADOR, SAY HOUSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY JUST A COUPLE WORDS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, STAFF MEMBERS, THANK YOU, UH, FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS DEPENDING A LOT OF VALID QUESTIONS. AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU WHY THIS BUILDING IS LIKE THIS. UM, I HAD PLENTY OF, BY THE WAY I LIVE, MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS FOUR 20 FINKEL ROAD AND MY, UH, HOME ADDRESS IS FIND HOUSE 33 15, UH, PENTHOUSE D I'VE LIVED THERE. I LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I'VE OWNED THIS BLOCK FOR CLOSE TO 30 YEARS. AND, UH, I LOVE THE BUILDING. I LOVE THE CITY AND I HAVE TRIED IT ALWAYS TO BRING GREAT TENANTS TO LINCOLN ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN AND HAVE WALKED LINCOLN ROAD LATELY. UH, WE'RE SUFFERING. THE OTHER SIDE IS OFFERING A KINDS OF THINGS TO ATTRACT TO WYNWOOD, TO, UH, ALL, ALL THE AREAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, MIAMI BEACH. LITTLE DETAILS THAT STOP A PROJECT THAT IS DONE FROM THE HEART. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE STATE AND SAID, WOULD YOU LIVE LOCAL? AND GUESS WHAT? I COULD GET 20, 25 STORIES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH. I LOVE IN MY, I LOVE MIAMI BEACH AND I LOVE LINCOLN ROAD, AND I WANT IT TO BE REVITALIZED. I'M NOT DOING IT FOR ANY OTHER REASON. AND I BROUGHT A GREAT ARCHITECT TO HELP US DO THAT. NOT ANYBODY WHO JUST WILL THROW IN A, A RENTAL BUILDING. SO I'M GIVING THE CITY THAT I LOVE AND HAVE INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY IN, IN DOING THIS. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS A COMPROMISE OF WHAT LIVE LOCAL WILL GIVE ME WITH 40% GIVING TO, UH, LIVE LOCAL PEOPLE TAX BENEFITS THAT I'M PUTTING ASIDE AND SAYING, I DON'T WANT 20 STORIES HERE. I DON'T WANT TO FORCE IT DOWN INTO MY CITY. THIS IS MY CITY, YOUR CITY. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE WHAT WE DO. WE NEED TO REVITALIZE LINCOLN ROAD, WE NEED HOUSING. AND I'M BRINGING YOU A PROJECT THAT IS A COMPROMISE. IT'S JUST ELEVATING A LITTLE BIT AND BRINGING YOU A GREAT ARCHITECT. SO SHOW THE WORLD THAT MIAMI BEACH IS ALIVE AND LINCOLN ROAD IS ALIVE AND THAT I TELL YOU WHY I AM HERE AND ASKING. SO PLEASE DON'T STOP IT BECAUSE OF LITTLE DETAILS. THAT BUILDING, IT'S BEEN CONDEMNED FOR 15 YEARS AND I BEG YOU TO GO THERE AND SEE IT. IT'S DANGEROUS. SO MY OPTIONS ARE WITH THE STATE OR NOT DO OR DO NOTHING. THE CITY NEEDS IT. AND I'M TELLING YOU FROM THE HEART THAT THIS IS WHY I WOULD LOOK FOR A COMPROMISE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO STILL LIVE IN MY BEACH AND LIVE WITH YOU. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU AMBASSADOR ZAJA. SO WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE, UH, WITH BOARD MEMBER COMMENT. UM, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE EACH GET OUR, OUR COMMENTS OUT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, LINDSEY? I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOST EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD SAY. UM, I DO AGREE. I I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE CITY DISAGREES ABOUT KEEPING THE DREXEL, OR SORRY, THE 16TH, UH, THE, THE ALLEY OPEN. I AGREE THAT IT'S BETTER FOR THAT STAGING TO HAPPEN OFF THE STREET. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ALL DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. UM, SO I SUPPORT THAT. UM, I'M HESITANT, UM, IN MY MIND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD THE HO HAUSER THE FACADE BE SAVED OR, OR INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, THAT'S CAUSING ME A LITTLE BIT OF HESITATION. UM, I, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. I'M, I'M STILL KIND OF MULLING IT OVER. ALRIGHT. UM, RANDY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO, WE'RE GOOD. UH, RAY, YEAH, GO AHEAD. ONE OTHER QUESTION. UM, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE IN THE GARAGE RIGHT NOW? THERE ARE ALMOST 500. THERE'LL BE ABOUT 184. AND HOW, HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE MONTHLY PASSES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO OTHER USES? I KNOW THERE WILL BE 184 SPACES ASSIGNED TO THE [01:05:01] PROPOSED NEW BUILDING THAT WILL, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR. IN ADDITION, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THAT GARAGE IS 175 SPACES ARE RESERVED FOR THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY. THAT WAS AN ARRANGEMENT AT THE TIME THE CENTRAL WAS BUILT. THAT'S, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, BUT THOSE, BUT THOSE SPACES ARE, ARE, ARE NEVER USED BY THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY OR IT'S PATRON. SO THE REALITY IS THERE'S, THERE'S A LOTS OF PARKING IN THAT GARAGE. MONTH. MONTH. OKAY. THANK YOU. MONTH. RANDY, GO AHEAD. AND THEN, MITCH, CAN I ASK WHAT THE RESPONSE BY THE APPLICANT WAS TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION OF THE BUILDING? BECAUSE I ASSUME WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT RESPONSE TODAY AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKING FOR A, A DELAY. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WAS, UH, WHAT WE WAS JUST PRESENTED TO YOU BY ENRIQUE AND JOSE, OR THE ADDITIONS OF THE A BRI SOLE ELEMENTS WERE WHAT, UH, WAS A RESPONSE, DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE STAFF'S, UH, COMMENTS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BEFORE YOU HEAR. RIGHT. OKAY. I I GOT THE IMPRESSION IT WAS MORE ABOUT A ARTICULATION OF THE FACADE AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BRI SOLE. WELL, I THINK SO THE, THE INITIAL PLANS DID HAVE A BRI SOLE IN THEM, RIGHT? SO THE, THE PLANS DID SHOW A BRI SOLE. OUR COMMENT WAS IT WASN'T SUFFICIENT ENOUGH OR MORE, OR DENSE ENOUGH. WE ALSO FELT THAT THE, UM, THAT THE, THE RAILING DESIGN WITH A, WITH THE OPEN HORIZONTALS COULD BE FURTHER DEVELOPED WITH SOMETHING MORE OPAQUE OR SOMETHING THAT WAS LESS TRANSPARENT BY CONTINUING SORT OF THE DESIGN LANGUAGE OF THE GARAGE AS SOMETHING MORE PERFORATED OR SOMETHING MORE SOLID, WHICH WOULD HELP ARTICULATE THE, UM, THE FACADES AS WELL AS WE SUGGESTED PERHAPS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOME SLIGHT CHANGES IN PLANE OR EVEN LIKE, I WOULD SUGGEST EVEN BREAKING UP SOME OF THE BALCONIES THAT ARE THE LONG HORIZONTAL. SO I DO THINK RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, I THINK THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY CAN MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS WITH THE BRI SOLAY AS, AS MR. NOR NORTON MENTIONED, TO, UM, INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THOSE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE. BUT I DO THINK IN COMBINATION WITH THAT MORE HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THE, WITH THE DESIGN OF THOSE RAILINGS AS WELL AS MAYBE PERHAPS SOME FURTHER ARTICULATION TO BREAK UP THAT, UM, CONTINUITY OF THE ENTIRE FACADE BEING THE SAME DESIGN AND REPEATED AT EVERY LEVEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE. DID, OH, I'M SORRY, MITCH, YOU'RE NEXT. SURE. UH, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE FURTHER DETAIL. I DON'T SEE IT CLEARLY. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT APPEARS ON THE RENDERINGS, UH, THAT YOU PROVIDED TODAY? UM, LOOKING AT PAGE A 5 0 1 NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDINGS MATERIAL REFERENCE, UH, IT HAS A LOT OF NEARBY BUILDINGS. IT HAS A BUILDING DOWN ON VENETIAN WAY, WONDERING THE HEIGHT, UH, THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE NEW HOTEL, UH, GOING ACROSS THE STREET, MAYBE STAFF, UH, I THINK IT'S 300 FEET. OKAY, SO 30 STORIES. AND THIS IS A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY. I'M GONNA SAY I I CAN BE AMENABLE TO YOUR HEIGHT. UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE PUBLIC BENEFIT. I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE, UH, UM, SENSITIVITY TOWARDS THE WHOLE HAUSER STRUCTURE. UM, AND IN TERMS OF PUBLIC BENEFIT AND, UH, THE AMBASSADOR MAY RECALL, UH, 20 YEARS AGO, UH, I BELIEVE LUCIA WAS STANDING WHERE YOU ARE TODAY, NISSAN, UH, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE AIRPLANE WING STRUCTURE ON LINCOLN ROAD. THE, UH, NOW, UH, DEMOLISHED LAPIDUS LAPIDUS KIOSK, WHICH, UH, STOOD THERE. AND AT THAT TIME, UH, YOUR CLIENT WAS, UH, AMENABLE TO, UH, RECREATING THAT STUFF. UH, AND I KNOW THE CITY HAD A GRANDIOSE PLAN, WHICH LIKELY IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN, UH, FOR, UH, DECADES. SO I, I CERTAINLY, UH, UH, THINK THAT COULD BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT, UH, IF, IF, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT THIS CONVERSATION, IF I MAY LEGALLY JUST RESPOND TO THAT, UH, THAT'S THE PUBLIC PUBLIC BENEFIT IS REALLY A DISCUSSION, NOT A DISCUSSION PROPERLY BEFORE THIS BOARD. IT'S REALLY ONE FOR THE, AS THE ZONING HAS CHANGED, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND FAR IF SOMETHING WOULD BE REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THAT. ALTHOUGH, I WOULD TELL YOU THE MAIN PUBLIC BENEFIT IS FULFILLING THE GOALS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS TO CREATE A, A MARKET RATE RENTAL HOUSING IN THE CITY. UH, BUT THAT IS NOT A DISCUSSION FOR THIS BOARD, REALLY. THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION AND PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. AND BY THE WAY, I DO REMEMBER, I SEEM TO REMEMBER AMBASSADORS SAY HASS WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF THE ROACH . IT WAS STILL THERE. , THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING IT THEN. UH, GO AHEAD LINDSAY. I JUST HAD A [01:10:01] QUESTION. UM, WHAT ARE, WE, WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT MARKET RATE. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ARE THE SIZES OF THESE UNITS, STUDIO VERSUS, I THINK IT'S STUDIO ONE TWO. DID WE SAY THAT OR I MISSED IT IF WE DID. APPROXIMATELY WHAT? FIVE 50 FOR STUDIO SEVEN. SO 550 FOR THE STUDIO. SEVEN 20 FOR THE ONE BEDROOM, AND 1100 FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, GO AHEAD. SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. UH, AMBASSADOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR IMPASSIONED SPEECH ABOUT HOW YOU CARE ABOUT THE CITY. I THINK I SPEAK FOR EVERY BOARD MEMBER HERE THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE SERVE. THAT'S WHY WE GIVE OUR TIME. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MANY YEARS AND THIS IS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. I THINK THAT THE DESIGN IS NICE, IT'S BEAUTIFUL DESIGN. PERHAPS IT DOESN'T BELONG AT THIS SITE, PARTICULAR SITE BECAUSE TO HAVE A HUNDRED AND SIXTY, A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED SIXTY, A HUNDRED SEVENTY FOOT RECTANGULAR WALL ALONG 16 STREET, I DON'T THINK, UH, IS IN CONTEXT WITH WHAT THE AREA IS, WHAT IT SHOULD BE. UH, I'M NOT SURE, UM, I'LL LEAVE MY THIS DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TIME, BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BASED ON THIS DESIGN AND THE CONFIGURATION, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I'LL JUMP IN BECAUSE I, UM, WAIT TILL THE END, UM, TO USUALLY GIVE, GIVE MY COMMENTS. AND, UH, I, UM, I RESPECTFULLY, I, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS HEIGHT, GIVEN THE, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, THE UNIQUENESS OF LINCOLN ROAD, ALSO THE, THE BUILDING ACROSS WASHINGTON AVENUE FROM THIS BUILDING, UH, GIVES THIS THE CONTEXT THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE TO BE IN A HIGHER, UH, HIGHER, UM, BUILDING CONTEXT. SO I, I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT THAT. I, I, I HAVE BEEN KIND OF, UH, BITING MY TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEMORIALIZE AUER, WHICH IS OUR, WHICH IS OUR, OUR, OUR PROJECT. AND ALBERT ENNIS IS, IS BEAUTIFULLY MEMORIALIZED IN THE REST OF THE BUILDING AT FOUR 20 LINCOLN ROAD. AND, UM, SO I, A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT I WAS THINKING WAS PERHAPS PULLING OUT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT ARE SPECIFIC HO HAUSER DETAILS AND FINDING ANOTHER, FINDING ANOTHER HOME FOR THEM, MAYBE ON THE SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE THEATER WALL THAT USED TO HAVE A HUGE MURAL ON IT, BUT NOW HAS, HAS NOTHING. AND MAYBE IT COULD BE A COUPLE OF PIECES THERE THAT HAVE A KIND OF, UM, A NOTE ABOUT HO HAUSER ABOUT HIS LEGACY, ABOUT THE BUILDING. AND IT WOULDN'T BE MOVING THE BUILDING OR THE PART OF, BUT IT WOULD BE KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHY, WHY THESE BUILDINGS ARE IMPORTANT. AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY HAVE TO THEIR DETAILS OF THE PERIOD. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UM, ONE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, AND THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LIFE THERE THAT WOULD BE ALONG THE DREXEL AVENUE SIDE. WE, WE HAD TALKED A WHILE AGO WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, THE, WE WERE, OR INITIALLY TALKING ABOUT MOVING THIS, ABOUT HAVING THOSE DETAILS EXPRESSED. IT WOULD BE JUST A FEW FEET OF THEM. UM, BUT OF THE DETAILS THEMSELVES OF THE HO HAUSER, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL MOMENTS THERE, UM, THAT WOULD BE PRESERVED KIND OF AS SCULPTURAL, BUT ALSO AS, AS KIND OF, UM, EDUCATIONAL, UH, EDUCATIONAL PIECES THAT HELP SOMEBODY WHO'S WALKING ALONG DREXEL, WHO'S SEEING THE NEW WORLD SYMPHONY IN FRONT OF THEM, WHO'S WALKING DOWN TO ESPANOLA WAY, WALKING BY TIME OUT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, MOMENT IN TIME AT ONE POINT, AS YOU POINT OUT IN THE, HAD HAD MORE OF A CONTEXT OF THE HIS, OF THE ART DECO DISTRICT BEFORE, UM, UM, ALBERT ANIS, UH, PROJECT WENT UP. SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE THING. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, THE OTHER, I WAS, I WAS GOING TO, I WAS REALLY, I WAS, I WAS REALLY FINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE RAMP IS ON THE WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDE. SO YOU COME UP ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND THEN YOU'RE UP AND AROUND THE ENTIRE BUILDING ARE STEPS. THEY KIND OF LIKE STEPS THAT GO UP TO GET US TO THE, TO THE FINISHED FLOOR HEIGHT THAT WE NEED TO BE AT, TO BE AT CROWN OF ROAD. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY REALIZED THAT, AND THAT YOU COME UP AND YOU GO BACK DOWN ON THE WASHINGTON, ON THE WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE USING THE ROUND, UM, FOR ANY REASON. AND, UM, YEAH, AND I, I, I THINK IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FRAGMENTS COULD BE [01:15:01] INCORPORATED, THE, UM, UH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF IN THE LOBBY, I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A WALL WHEN YOU WALK IN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE LOBBY, THERE WAS SOME PLAQUE THAT WOULD ALSO KIND OF POINT TO THE FACT THAT THE HO HAZER BUILDING WAS ON THE SITE. REMEMBER, THE, THE POINT OF THIS BOARD IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, AS YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF, UH, MOST FOCUSED ON. BUT, UM, I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO SEE THOSE TWO THINGS HAPPEN. AND, UH, AND THOSE, THOSE WERE KIND OF MY COMMENTS, OTHERWISE, I AM, I AM, I'M OKAY WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY INTERESTING, UH, AN IMPORTANT ADDITION. I, I KNOW THE STAFF THAT I WORK WITH CANNOT HAVE, CAN HAVE NO PLACE TO FIND RENTALS IN MIAMI BEACH. SO THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY. DID YOU HAVE YOU HAVE YOUR YES, I, NO, I HAD THAT'S OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. NO, I HAD ONE COMMENT. UM, WE HAVE LIKE THE ALLEY ON 16TH STREET, AND I THINK THERE IS, WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER TREATMENT OF THAT SPACE. 'CAUSE THERE IS A LARGE STRETCH BETWEEN THE ENTRANCE OF THE GARAGE UNTIL YOU HIT, HIT THE FIRST RETAIL SPACE ON THE BUILDING. I'M TALKING ABOUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION HERE, SO YOU HAVE THE WHOLE SPACE FROM HERE TO HERE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT. SO, SO ON THIS, UH, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC, OH, THIS DRAWING, UH, ON THIS, ON THIS RENDERING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, YOU, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE GARAGE ENTRANCE ON THE LEFT, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEN YOU ADD THAT'S EXISTING AND THEN THE LOADING ENTRANCE TO JUST, TO THE RIGHT OF IT. CORRECT. SO IT'S A BIG STRETCH OF THE BLOCK THAT'S MAYBE LIKE ONE THIRD OF THE BLOCK, MAYBE MORE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT FROM PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT. AND I THINK IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN LIFE AND STREET LIFE, THIS IS A DETERRENT TO THAT. SO, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AND TREAT THAT SPACE IN A WAY THAT'S MORE INVITING TO PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION. UH, YES. UH, AS I, AS I MENTIONED AND UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT, THE, UM, IT'S A VERY LARGE BLOCK. IT HAS GREAT SERVICE NEEDS BETWEEN THE FOUR 20 BUILDING, THE ZARA STORE, THE APARTMENT BUILDING, THE TIMEOUT MARKET SPACE. UH, AND, AND, AND THIS 16TH STREET, OF COURSE, UH, IS LESS IMPORTANT. AS WAS MENTIONED, DREXEL IS BEING REDONE TO BE, BECOME A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED PROMENADE. WASHINGTON, OF COURSE, VERY IMPORTANT PEDESTRIAN STREET. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT CAN BE DONE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING, I GUESS WE CAN STUDY A LITTLE FURTHER TO SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS OF TREATING THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE IN THE FLOOR PLAN, IT SHOWS A ONE WAY EXIT INTO 16TH STREET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SO IN REALITY, THIS SPACE DOESN'T NEED TO BE THAT WAY. IT'S ACTUALLY TWO WAYS THOUGH. I THINK. SO THEN THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE ER RECTIFIED. 'CAUSE THE PLAN SHOWS ONE SHOWS DIAGONAL PARKING AND ONE WAY ALLEY, UM, DRIVEWAY. SO, YEAH. SO I'M SURE THERE IS ENOUGH TALENT IN YOUR TEAM TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT. MR. CHAIR. YEAH, YOU JUST, I WAS GONNA, JUST ON THAT POINT, I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT THE PLAN ALSO SHOWS A GREEN SPACE, UM, THERE, AND I THINK YOUR RENDERING SHOWS A TREE LIKE THERE. SO THE, IT JUST, THE TREE? YEAH. THAT ONE. UM, IS THAT, SO THAT WOULD, THAT'S ALSO DRAWN AS THE ONE WAY OUT IS THE RENDERING. OH, MAYBE THEY, MAYBE THE CAMERA CAN PICK IT UP. OKAY. YEAH. THE THE PLANS DO SHOW IT AS A ONE WAY OUT. YES. AND THE RENDERINGS ONE WAY OUT. AND THE RENDERINGS ALSO SHOW IT IN THE SAME WAY. THEY DON'T, THE RENDERINGS SHOW A TREE THERE. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, UH, LET ME, UH, HI. YEAH. HI. LET'S SAY GO MISS AGAIN. UH, CAN I, CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE, THE, UH, SIDE PLAN SO THAT I CAN SHOW YOU HOW THE WHOLE SURE. CITY BLOCK WORKS. SURE. OH, LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THERE. THERE YOU GO. WHOOP. OKAY. UH, SO HERE YOU GO. SO ONE, GO, ONE BACK. THE DRAWING THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT IS ONE BACK FROM THE, THE, THAT ONE, THE OTHER BLOW UP. THAT'S A, THAT'S A BLOW UP. LET ME, LET ME JUST TAKE YOU BACK. OKAY. FOR THE ENTIRE BLOCK. SO HERE YOU SEE THE ENTIRE BLOCK. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, ON THE NOR OR ON THE TOP OF THE DRAWING, YOU SEE DREXEL HERE. SO DREXEL IS BEING REDONE RIGHT NOW. SO IT BECOME PEDESTRIAN FROM THE ALLEY TO THE NORTH, BECOME PEDESTRIAN, THE, UM, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY. CAN YOU USE THE CURSOR? CAN YOU USE THE CURSOR AND, AND, UH, UH, NO, IT'S, WELL, NOT THE POINTER, THE CURSOR ON THE, DO YOU OF THE LAPTOP. OKAY. YEAH. THE CURSOR ON THE LAPTOP. WE CAN, YEAH. THERE, NOW WE CAN SEE IT. SO NOW SHOW US EXACTLY WHERE DREXEL IS. OKAY, SO THIS IS, THIS IS DREXEL RIGHT HERE. [01:20:01] OKAY. SO DREXEL TODAY IS BEING RECONSTRUCTED, AND IT, IT WILL END UP, THE VEHICULAR CIRCULATION WILL END UP AT THIS, UH, RUNABOUT. AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR ALLEY. SO TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO COME IN HERE. THE CITY IS ALREADY WORKING ON THIS. THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED, IT'S DONE. SO WE GONNA HAVE AN ENTRY WHERE WE CAN HAVE DELIVERIES, TRASH PICKUP FOR SARAH AND THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS. AS WE COME OUT, WE GO SOUTH. YOU TURN HERE, YOU GO SOUTH. NOW YOU HAVE PARKING IN HERE FOR TRUCKS FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING. YOU HAVE AN AREA FOR TRASH PICKUP, AND YOU HAVE A ONE WAY NARROW EXIT. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S ONLY, I BELIEVE IT'S 10 OR 12 FEET. THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A, A TWO-WAY BIG OPENING. THERE'S A SMALL ENTRANCE. SO NOW IF WE GO TO THE NEXT DRAWING, LET ME JUST SHOW YOU. SO HERE'S, OH, NOW THE TEXT DOESN'T LET US SEE IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD, UH, I CAN SHOW YOU. LOOK AT THE OTHER SCREEN. JUST LOOK AT THE OTHER SCREEN THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT HAND. YEAH. OKAY. SAME THING. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT CAN YOU USE THE CURSOR? CAN YOU USE THE CURSOR AGAIN JUST SO WE CAN ALL FOLLOW UP. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO HERE YOU GO. MM-HMM . SO THE EXIT IS JUST A VERY NARROW ONE WAY OUT THROUGH TO 16TH STREET. UH, THEN YOU HAVE A BIG LANDSCAPE AREA HERE, WHICH HAS JUST ONE COLUMN, SORT OF SUPPORTING THE BUILDING, TYING INTO THE PARKING GARAGE. UH, JUST A, A VERY SCULPTURAL TWO STORY OR THREE STORY SPACE, UH, THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE. UM, AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING INTO THE ALLEY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GATE RIGHT THERE. IF WE CAN, I CAN BLOW THIS UP, BUT THERE'S A GATE HERE HERE THAT WILL ROLL BACK BEHIND THE LANDSCAPE AREA. SO THIS IS A VERY WELL-TREATED CORNER. AND THEN YOU SEE HERE HOW THE STEPS, THEY TURN 90 DEGREES AND SORT OF END THE, UH, THE PLAZA, THE ELEVATED PLAZA THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING SO THAT, THAT CORNER, ENRIQUE HAS GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO, TO THINK THAT IT'S SORT OF ON THOUGHT. THE, THE RENDERING DOESN DO JUSTICE. I THINK IT'S THE RENDERING DOESN'T DO JUSTICE. YEAH. I APPRECIATE WAS THAT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR RENDERING, THERE IS A VERY WIDE SPACE THAT HAS A SOMEWHAT UTILITARIAN METAL GATE IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT I CAN SEE. AND THAT'S IT. IT LOOKS LIKE A DEAD SIDE DOCK. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LITTLE VERTICAL CIRCULATION FOR THE GARAGE, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER MAYBE 24 FEET OF ENTRANCE, EXIT, EXIT TO THE GARAGE. CORRECT. THE RENDERING IS NOT DOING JUSTICE TO WHAT YOU'RE PHYSICALLY SEEING. RIGHT. SO THE DRAWING IS, FORTUNATELY, WHEN WE LOOK AT DRAWINGS, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GIVEN. YEAH. THE, THE RENDERING DOESN'T DO JUSTICE TO THE CORNER, BECAUSE IF YOU SEE THE CORNER, IT'S ALL VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, IT WORKS WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, THE AMENITIES OF THE BUILDING. EVERYTHING THAT, THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN IN THAT ALLEY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. YES. MAY I, UH, THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE, AND I MIGHT SUGGEST OR REQUEST THAT MAYBE WE DO CONTINUE THIS TILL DECEMBER. WE CAN DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE. FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, HOW THAT, UH, ALLEYWAY IS TREATED, SHOW MORE GRAPHICALLY, UH, HOW IT IS SCREENED, UH, BETTER PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, UH, SOME ELEMENT OF, UH, UH, PAYING HOMAGE TO THE HO HAUSER ARCHITECTURE, AS YOU SUGGEST. AS, AS MR. NOVAK SUGGESTS, UM, YOU'VE SEEN THE, UH, THE CHANGE TO THE FACADE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE BRI SOLE, PERHAPS WE CAN, UH, COME BACK TO YOU AND SATISFY THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECI, ADD A NOTE TO THAT. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE RENDERINGS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY'RE JUST, UM, NOT COMPATIBLE. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. BUT WE WOULD WANT, WE WANT IT TO BE IN DECEMBER. YES. YES. OKAY. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NOPE. LINDSEY, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YOU WERE OKAY. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I WAS GONNA MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS , PLEASE. THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA ASK FOR ONE, BUT YES, I'LL SECOND LINDSAY'S MOTION. OKAY. UH, THIS IS A, SO FOR A MOTION TO CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO DATE CERTAIN DECEMBER 16TH TO DATE CERTAIN DECEMBER 16TH. RIGHT? EXACTLY. SO, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A, A, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? I THINK IF WE CAN DO ALL IN FAVOR. DOES ANYBODY, IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THE CONTINUANCE REQUEST? NOPE. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GOOD. CAN I, I DIDN'T HEAR A RESPONSE STILL TO THE STAFF'S ISSUE OF THE ARTICULATING THE FACADE TO BE NOT JUST A GIGANTIC BOX. TO ME, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH RAILINGS, AND [01:25:01] I DIDN'T HEAR THE RESPONSE TO THAT. I HEAR THAT IT WAS SORT OF RESPONDED WITH THE BRI SOLE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME HOMAGE TO THE HISTORIC, BUT I STILL THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME ADDRESSING THE STAFF CONCERN ABOUT THE ARTICULATION. I, I THINK THEY HEARD THAT, THE CONTINUATION. YEAH. AND I, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT AS THE POSSIBLE OH, PART OF WHAT HE'S GONNA BE WORKING ON. YES. YEAH, THAT'S ALL. OKAY. I THINK IT'S BEEN HEARD. OKAY. SO, SO YOU'RE BACK DECEMBER 16TH. THANK YOU. RIGHT BEFORE, RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, MAYBE THAT TOOK CHRISTMAS PRESENT. YOU'RE OUR PRESENT . OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO [3. HPB24-0616 a.k.a. HPB 7424, 1620 Drexel Avenue.] THE NEXT APPLICATION, WHICH IS, UM, HPB 24 DASH SIX 16, FORMERLY KNOWN AS HPB 74 24, OR 1620 DREXEL AVENUE. THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO PREVIOUSLY ISSUED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH AN ACTIVE ROOF DECK. SPECIFICALLY THIS APP, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A NEW ROOF ROOF DECK DESIGN, INCLUSIVE OF CANOPY STRUCTURES AND OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER, INCLUDING A VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIRED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE OUTDOOR BOARD COUNTER. AND TO MODIFY THE CONDITIONS OF THE FINAL ORDER. THE APPLICANT SEEKS APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THIS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH THE ROOFTOP DECK LOCATED LINCOLN ROAD IN DREXEL AVENUE. PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDE ADDING A CANOPY STRUCTURE UNDER BAR COUNTER AND REVISED OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS. STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THERE'S AN ANOTHER APPLICATION, UM, THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED. I THINK IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, LAST WEEK FOR A, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT ESTABLISHMENT BASED UPON THE SIZE OF THE, THE VENUE. SO THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING MODIFICATION OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION. UM, AS PART OF THIS, UM, APPLICATION STAFF SUPPORTS THE OVERALL DESIGN, UM, AND THE APPLICANT'S ALSO REQUESTING A, A WAIVER OF ON ONSITE LOADING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH STAFF SUPPORTS GIVEN THE, THE SITE'S URBAN CONTEXT AND LACK OF ALLEY ACCESS, AND PROVIDED THAT ALL LOADING WOULD OCCUR DURING DESIGNATED ON STREET, UM, LOADING AREAS. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO EXTEND THE OUTDOOR BAR OPERATING HOURS UNTIL 2:00 AM WHICH EXCEED THE STANDARD LIMIT DUE TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY. NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGER, UM, SITE, THE PROPERTY IS TECHNICALLY ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL, UM, PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN CLOSING THE OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER AT 8:00 PM OVER BASED UPON THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OF THIS STRUCTURE, THE ROOFTOP DECK IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 140 FEET FROM THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, BECAUSE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED VARIANCE TO EXTEND THE HOURS UNTIL, UM, 2:00 AM AS I MENTIONED THERE, UM, PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO THE, UM, TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT GRANTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, LAST WEEK. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION, INCLUDING, UM, APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE OPERATING OF THE OUTDOOR BAR COUNTER. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHAEL. GOOD MORNING, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. MY NAME IS PAUL SAVAGE WITH LAW OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BISCAY BOULEVARD, MIAMI, FLORIDA. I'M HERE, UH, ON ITEM AGENDA NUMBER THREE. UH, WE ARE AT LINCOLN ROAD AND DREXEL AVENUE, AS WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH. UH, THAT AREA WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN OUR LAST APPLICATION. AND BEFORE I JUMP INTO THIS, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED. UM, AND ALSO TO THANK MICHAEL BELUCHE. I JUST HAD MY FIRST PLANNING BOARD HEARING, UH, IN FRONT OF DEBBIE, UH, THE OTHER DAY. AND SO NOW I'M HAVING MY FIRST HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WORKING WITH MICHAEL. THEY, THEY, THEY REALLY WORKED HARD TO OVERLAP ONE ANOTHER, SO WE HAD A SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MICHAEL, FOR WORKING WITH US. UM, SO WE'RE HERE, UH, THIS MORNING ON A, ON A BEAUTIFUL PROPOSED RESTAURANT ON AN IMPORTANT CORNER. AGAIN, IT'S, UH, THE, UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DREXEL, UM, I'M SORRY, OF LINCOLN ROAD IN DREXEL. UM, AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE PULL UP OUR, UH, PRESENTATION AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, INTRODUCE OUR TEAM. UH, THIS, WE'VE GOT A, A WHOLE CREW HERE TODAY, UM, WHO WORK TO BRING THIS BEAUTIFUL SITE TO FRUITION. UM, PRINCIPALLY I'VE GOT, UM, THE STA ARCHITECTURE FIRM, TODD TRAGO AND SOPHIA ATE, AND ALSO OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD, CARLOS PRIOT TUESDAY IS HERE FROM TUESDAY STUDIO. UM, ON THE LINE AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IS OUR SOUND ENGINEERING CONSULTANT WHO PREPARED A REPORT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND FOR THIS APPLICATION. AND HIS NAME IS ANDY SWERDLOW FROM CRITERION [01:30:01] ACOUSTICS. UM, I'M HERE TOGETHER WITH MY COLLEAGUE ROB ALVAREZ, AND, UH, MY SHAREHOLDER PARTNER, MICHAEL LARKIN, IS ALSO HERE WITH US. AND FROM NOBLE 33, WHO IS THE PREMIER, UH, RESTAURANT OPERATOR AFFILIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION. I HAVE DEAN SAKIS, UH, WHO IS THEIR COO CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AND HAS OPENED SEVERAL OF THEIR LOCATIONS AND IS GONNA TELL US ABOUT THEIR VERY SPECIAL INTERIORS AND CULINARY OFFERINGS. UM, SO YEAH, AS, AS MIKE MICHAEL WAS TELLING US, WE HAVE A FAVORABLE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS A CULMINATION OF A LOT OF WORK WITH TWO SETS OF STAFF WITH PLANNING BOARD AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. UM, AND, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, JUMP RIGHT IN IF WE CAN. UH, JUST TO GET OUR FEET ON THE GROUND HERE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, WE'RE AT LINCOLN ROAD IN DREXEL. UM, UH, WHAT IS VERY UNIQUE TO THE SITE, AND, UM, AND I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADOPT ALL OF THE BULLET POINT ANALYSIS, UH, SET FORTH IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UH, THIS SITE IS UNUSUAL IN THAT THE CHURCH IS SORT OF AN LHA WRAPPING AROUND THE SITE, SO THAT WE HAVE THE, UH, THE PRINCIPAL, UH, SANCTUARY FRONTING THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY RESTORED, THAT IS HISTORIC AND HAS BEEN RESTORED, UM, FRONTING LINCOLN ROAD. AND THEN THE, UH, THERE ARE OFFICES, UH, CLASSROOMS AND ANOTHER CHAPEL THAT WRAPS AROUND TO THE SOUTH. AND AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, THIS UNUSUAL CONFIGURATION SERVES AS AN INSULATOR, UH, TO THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH. UH, IF WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, KEEP GOING. UM, THIS IS A PHOTO, UM, OF THE EXISTING SITE IN, AND I, I KNOW MICHAEL SAID THIS, BUT I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE IT. WE'RE NOT HERE ON A NEW APPLICATION THIS MORNING. THIS, UH, WAS ALREADY APPROVED, AND WE ARE MODIFYING A PRIOR, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING ALREADY, UH, ALREADY APPROVED HERE. WE'RE JUST MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED USE. UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE, UH, CONDITION THAT WE HAVE. AND BY THE WAY, UH, WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF INTEGRATING THEIR WORK ON THE SIDEWALK, AS WE HEARD THEY'RE CLOSING DOWN DREXEL. AND SO WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEVATIONS ARE SEAMLESS AND THE LIKE. UH, SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN EXCITING AND BEAUTIFUL AREA WHEN THIS IS ALL, UM, REDONE. AND SO THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS NEW PROJECT TOGETHER WITH THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THERE IS GONNA REALLY COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER. IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, THIS IS A, UH, BEAUTIFUL RENDERING THAT WE HAVE, UM, SHOWING THIS, UH, NEW RESTAURANT, UH, DESTINATION DINING. UM, THE NAME OF THE RESTAURANT IS MEDUSA MEDITERRANEAN, UH, WILL BE A MEDITERRANEAN, MODERN MEDITERRANEAN, UM, FLAVOR, OR, YOU KNOW, CUISINE, IF YOU WILL. AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THESE, UH, BEAUTIFUL BRONZE AND CHAMPAGNE TONES THAT WILL, UH, ACTIVATE LINCOLN ROAD WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE BARELY ANY, UM, ANY SORT OF COVERINGS OR TINTING ON THE GLAZING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE LINCOLN ROAD BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT WAS, UH, SUFFICIENT. THE ENTRANCE IS, THE ENTRANCE IS ON DREXEL. UH, THE HOST STATION IS ON THAT CORNER WITH A SPIRAL STAIRCASE AND A STRIKING AND BEAUTIFUL WINE STORAGE, UH, UH, STRUCTURE THAT GOES UP. UH, THERE. UH, THIS IS THE, UH, THE, UH, HISTORIC COMMUNITY, UM, MIAMI BEACH COMMUNITY CHURCH THAT YOU KNOW SO WELL HAS BEEN RESTORED THANKS TO THIS BOARD. SOME, I THINK APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS AGO. UM, AND YOU COULD SEE THE PROPOSED, UM, NEW RESTAURANT NESTLED IN THERE, IN THIS NOTCH OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY RIGHT ON THE CORNER. UH, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE A, A VERY EXCITING, UM, NOBLE 33 OPERATOR. THEY HAVE, UH, SUMPTUOUS, YOU KNOW, INTERIORS AND LOCATIONS IN NEW YORK CITY, IN WEST HOLLYWOOD, IN LONDON, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU. UH, THEY ARE, UH, PRIDE THEMSELVES ON BEING A CULINARY DESTINATION AND NOT A NIGHTCLUB, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN, UH, THE CITY STAFF, THE, THE, THE, UH, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, EVERYONE'S VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT ISSUE, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THIS TEAM HAS SPARED NO EXPENSE IN, IN, IN THEIR DESIGNS AND IN THEIR, UH, FOCUS ON THE FOOD AND THE RESTAURANT ITSELF. UM, SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS I'LL GO THROUGH QUICKLY, UM, UH, THEY'RE KNOWN FOR HAVING CELEBRITY CLIENTELE. THEY, I JUST READ A REVIEW OF THE OPENING IN KANSAS CITY, UH, CALLED 1587 PRIME, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF THE FOOTBALL JERSEY, UH, NUMBERS OF PATRICK MAHOMES [01:35:01] AND TRAVIS KELSEY. AND I MET A BET WITH MICHAEL THAT I WOULD NOT SAY THE WORDS TAYLOR SWIFT, BUT I GUESS I JUST LOST THE BET. SO MAYBE SHE WILL COME AND VISIT THIS NEW LOCATION. UM, SO THEY, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL HIGH-END RESTAURANT THAT THEY'VE OPENED THERE, AS WELL AS IN NEW YORK CITY. I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THOSE. UM, THIS IS A, UM, A LOCATION, UM, IN WEST HOLLYWOOD, UH, THAT WE HAVE FEATURED IN THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE FOUND SOME ANALOGY WITH IT TO THIS SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, AS WELL AS BEING UNDER THE JURISDICTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOME VERY TOUGH LOCAL BOARDS OUT THERE, AND THEY HAVE, UM, OP OPERATED THIS SUCCESSFULLY AND IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORS WITHOUT ANY, UH, COMPLAINTS OR, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ANY, ANY, ANY DRAMA WHATSOEVER. THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN VERY, UM, VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM THERE. IF WE CAN GO THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDES. THIS IS, UH, JUST, UM, A PHOTO OF THE MEDUSA MEDITERRANEAN IN THE MEAT PACKING DISTRICT IN NEW YORK CITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A GORGEOUS, UM, BEAUTIFUL PLACE, UM, TO DINE AND TO GATHER. AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY, VERY PROUD THAT THEY WERE NAMED AS YELP'S NUMBER ONE BEST RESTAURANT IN NEW YORK CITY FOR 2024. SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, GREAT REVIEWS AND PRESS. UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THEIR OFFERINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFULLY PRESENTED, UM, VERY, VERY HIGH END, UM, OFFERINGS IN CLIENTELE. UM, THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER SIDE. YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, THE GORGEOUS CEILING TREATMENT THERE, UH, AND THE LIGHTING, UH, THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPING. ALL OF THAT IS, IS JUST FANTASTIC. UM, AND NOW WE ALSO HAVE A LOCAL LOCATION HERE, SPARROW ITALIA WYNWOOD IN THE, UM, IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, WYNWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, AND I, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, UH, COLOR SCHEME HERE IS THE ONE IN LONDON, SPIRO, IT ITALIA IN, UM, THE MAYFAIR IN LONDON. ALSO A GORGEOUS HIGH-END, UM, DESTINATION. NOW AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, DEAN, UH, SAAS. I'VE BEEN PRACTICING THAT. UH, DEAN, IF YOU COULD, UM, COME UP AND GIVE US A LITTLE, UM, RUNDOWN OF NOBLE 33, YOUR OTHER OPENINGS LOCATIONS, CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS DEAN SAAS, AND I SERVE AS A CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR NOBLE 33. OUR GROUP CREATES HOSPITALITY DRIVEN RESTAURANTS THAT BRING TOGETHER EXCEPTIONAL INGREDIENTS, THOUGHTFUL DESIGN, AND GENUINE HUMAN CONNECTIONS. OUR PORTFOLIO, AS MENTIONED, INCLUDES TOKO MADERA, OUR MODERN MEXICAN FLAGSHIP WITH LOCATIONS IN SCOTTSDALE, LAS VEGAS, HOUSTON, AND SOON TO BE IN MIAMI. ALIA IS MENTIONED IN MAYFAIR, AS WELL AS, UH, EXCUSE ME, HERE IN WYNWOOD, CREATES A LIVELY ITALIAN DINING EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? STEERING AWAY FROM THE CLUB ON TEAM, WHERE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT, BUT, UM, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE. NEXT, WE HAVE AS MENTIONED, RIGHT, CASA MADERA. UH, IT'S OUR NOD TO MEXICAN COASTAL CUISINE, UH, WITH LOCATIONS IN TORONTO, NOT JUST IN WEST HOLLYWOOD. AND AS MENTIONED, 1580, EXCUSE ME, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? SIX MINUTES. OKAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU FIVE. YEAH, YOU GOTTA KEEP THIS GOING A LITTLE FASTER. FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, WE'LL, WE'LL PICK IT, WE'LL PICK IT RIGHT UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THROUGH THE CHAIR TO CUT RIGHT INTO IT, RIGHT? WITH MEDUSA, EXTENDING THE SAME VISION, UH, AS WE CELEBRATE THE FLAVORS AND THE LIFESTYLE OF THE MEDITERRANEAN. OUR FIRST LOCATION AS MENTIONED, BROUGHT, UM, TREMENDOUS ACCOLADES TO US, RIGHT? AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE AND CONTINUING BUILDING THE BRAND IS CREATING THAT EXCITING EXPERIENCE FOR MIAMI. WHAT WE DO WITH OUR CONCEPTS IS WE CREATE RESTAURANTS THAT LOCAL LOCALS LOVE AND TRAVELERS SEEK OUT. WHAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO CREATE IS A TRULY EXCITING PART OF THE REVITALIZATION OF LINCOLN ROAD AND BRING MORE VIBRANT CULINARY LANDSCAPE TO THE CITY WHERE LOCALS LOVE TO VISIT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEAN. OKAY, ROB, WE'VE HAD OUR MARCHING ORDERS FROM THE CHAIR. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLICK THROUGH HERE. UM, I DID WANNA GIVE A VERY, VERY QUICK, UM, REMINDER TO THE BOARD THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF REALLY EXCITING NEW THINGS, UM, HAPPENING. UM, THERE'S, UM, THE, UH, INFINITY ASSEMBLAGE, UH, THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER. UH, WE JUST GOT APPROVED THE SUPERHUMAN MUSEUM, BUT THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH IS A MODERN ART MUSEUM WITH BOTH, UH, MAINLINE TRADITIONAL ARTWORK HANGING ON WALLS, TOGETHER WITH ALSO VERY MODERN, UM, INTERACTIVITY AND MODERN ATTRACTION THEMES. UM, I APPEARED BEFORE THIS BOARD ON THE NICE GUY, WHICH IS, AS YOU KNOW, MID-CENTURY MODERN, UM, ITALIAN THEME RESTAURANT THERE IN PERMITTING AND BUILDING RIGHT NOW. EXCITING. GO AHEAD ROB, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL THROUGH HERE. [01:40:01] ORO MILA IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS, UM, APPLICATION. UM, THE PADELL COURTS WERE JUST APPROVED BY THE CITY ON TOP OF THEIR, UM, PARKING DECK. ROB, GO AHEAD. AND, UH, WE COME AROUND THE HORN HERE TO MEDUSA, MEDITERRANEAN, THIS APPLICATION, ANDRES CARNE DERE, UM, AWARD-WINNING JAMMAGE IS PUTTING A, A RESTAURANT, OPEN AIR RESTAURANT AT THE TOP. AND OF COURSE, THE 1600 THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, WHICH APPARENT, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME WORK TO DO. BUT, UH, EVENTUALLY I THINK THEY'LL PULL IT TOGETHER AND THAT'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL NEW, UH, NEW, UH, FACILITY AND INTERACTION. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE CITY HAS CLOSED THAT PART OF DREXEL. UM, GO AHEAD, ROB. I'LL GO THROUGH THE, UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICATION AS MICHAEL, UM, AS MICHAEL SUMMARIZED, UH, WE'RE MODIFYING A PRIOR CONDITION. UH, WE, WE, BECAUSE OF THE DREXEL, UH, WE NEED A WAIVER, UH, TO PERMIT ON STREET LOADING AS WELL AS THE VARIANCE OF PERMIT OPERATION OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE, UH, ROOFTOP UNTIL TWO, WHICH WE WENT THROUGH A LENGTH AT PLANNING BOARD. THE STAFF, UH, GIVES A PROFESSIONAL, I MEAN, A, UH, A, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS THAT WE ACCEPT. GO AHEAD, ROB. AND WE WILL, UH, THIS IS, GO AHEAD ROB. WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE. NOW. THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR SITE PLAN. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, UH, PRINCIPAL ENTRANCE IS ON DREXEL. UM, UH, DEBBIE TACKETT AND THE OTHER TEAM MADE SURE THAT WE HAD DOUBLE VESTIBULE DOORS AND WE'RE SUBJECT TO TESTING THAT THERE'S NO ESCAPE OF NOISE THROUGH THERE. UM, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS, UH, THERE, UH, REALLY 50% OR MORE IS AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE THERE. UH, EVERYTHING IS FRONTING LINCOLN ROAD. UM, AGAIN, THE HOST, UH, STATION ON THAT ICONIC CORNER IS GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL. GO AHEAD. UM, ROB, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SECOND FLOOR SITE, PLANE AGAIN, BACK OF THE HOUSE TO THE SOUTH. UM, AND THE RESTAURANT. GO TO THE, UH, THE TOP FLOOR. ROB, PLEASE. SO HERE ALSO, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE PULLED OUT AND HIGHLIGHTED THE BACK OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S MASONRY OF AND WALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GONNA INSULATE TO THE SOUTH WHERE WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL. UM, GO AHEAD ROB. WE'LL GO THROUGH AGAIN. THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE SOUTHERN ELEVATION MASONRY CLOSED OFF. WE WILL, EVERYTHING WILL BE FOCUSED, UH, INTERIOR TO THE FRONT. GO AHEAD, ROB. UM, WE'LL JUST CLICK THROUGH HERE. THERE'S OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED APPLICATIONS, CARNE, DIRES, MILA, UM, THE ALBION, UH, ALSO TO 2:00 AM IS PERMITTED. GO AHEAD, ROB. AND, UM, THIS IS, UH, THE BACK TO WEST HOLLYWOOD. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL THERE WITH NO COMPLAINTS. UM, I'M GONNA, UM, THERE'S THE, UH, THE, THE SPACING THAT MICHAEL MENTIONED, UH, 128 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S LIKE MORE LIKE 140 THAT MICHAEL SAID TO THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE. UM, SO WE HAVE THIS INSULATING PROPERTY. IT'S VERY UNUSUAL TO THE SITE, A SPECIAL CONDITION. UM, SO WE DON'T THINK, UH, THERE'LL BE ANY, ANY NOISE ISSUE. PLANNING BOARD HAS CONDITIONS THAT ARE VERY TIGHT ON US AND ALSO SUBJECT TO MONITORING. UH, GO AHEAD ROB. UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH, UM, UM, THESE ARE THE OTHER, THE OTHER LOCATIONS. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SIMILAR BUFFERING THAT WE DO. WE THINK THAT WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE HERE. GO AHEAD, ROB. AND, UM, THIS IS OUR, OUR, WE HAVE A SOUND STUDY IN THE FILE. UM, OUR SOUND ENGINEER WAS TASKED WITH, UM, TO, TO DO A STUDY THAT SAID EVERYONE IS WATCHING THE WORLD CUP ON THE ROOF AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEY ALL SAY GO AS LOUD AS THEY CAN. AND HE MEASURED THAT, THAT IT WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD NOT EXCEED THE AMBIENT DECIBELS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BASED ON THE STUDY THAT'S IN THE FILE AND HIS TESTIMONY, UM, HE'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON ZOOM. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST GO, GO THROUGH HERE, UM, WITH MY TIME EXPIRING. OKAY. OKAY. ANOTHER MINUTE. YEAH, YEAH, ANOTHER MINUTE. YOU GET YOUR SIX. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THERE YOU GO. I HOPE, HOPE YOU'RE APPRECIATING THE NEW PACE HERE, . AND, UM, SO I AM, I AM, I'M WORRIED IF I HADN'T GIVEN YOU THAT YET. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH, VERY GOOD. UM, SO, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, AN EXTENSIVE SOUND STUDY AS WELL AS THE, THE ENGINEERS ON, ON ZOOM AND AVAILABLE. BUT A AS I POINT OUT HERE, REALLY THE PUNCHLINE OF IT ALL IS THAT THERE'S NO SOUND, UM, THAT WILL BE AUDIBLE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET. UM, AND CERTAINLY NOT ABOVE. THERE'S A BASELINE OF ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ZERO, BUT WE WILL NOT EXCEED THAT BASELINE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT PLANNING BOARD PUT ON US. UM, GO AHEAD, ROB. AND WE'LL, UM, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE THE, OUR ARCHITECTS HERE. WE HAVE OUR DESIGN TEAM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WILL QUICKLY SHOW THE RENDERINGS OF THE TOP. I WANT TO SH UH, REMIND THE BOARD THAT THIS RENDERING HERE, WE ARE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THE BOARD MAY THINK IT'S SEE THROUGH TO THE, TO THE SOUTH, BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST A REFLECTION OF A MIRROR. THERE'S MULTIPLE WALLS, BATHROOMS, KITCHENS, IT, MASONRY, ET CETERA. SO I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT. PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE. UM, THIS IS AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTH. UH, THIS IS REALLY, UH, THE, THE, THE BRIEF FOR THEM WAS A WALLED GARDEN, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THIS IS AMPLY, UH, LANDSCAPED WITH VEGETATIVE, BUFFERING FOR [01:45:01] VISUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, F FROM THE PEDESTRIAN PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. UM, AND THESE BEAUTIFUL BOOTHS, I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING THERE, UH, WITH A, WITH A PERGOLA STRUCTURE THERE ON THE ROOF. UM, AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE SOME OF THE VEGETATION. YOU CAN SEE THE BUFFERING THERE. UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PALMS PRINCIPALLY. UM, NEXT SLIDE. UM, OH, THE LINCOLN ROAD BID IS HERE. THEY LOVE THE PROJECT. THEY THINK IT'S FITS RIGHT IN IT'S COMPATIBLE. BEAUTIFUL. AND WE'LL COMPLIMENT THE OTHER RESTAURANTS ALONG LINCOLN ROAD. UM, AND THAT I'M COMING AROUND THE BEND HERE. UM, ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL ONE, ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL RENDERING. WE'RE ALL HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR FAVORABLE ACTION ON THE APPLICATION TOGETHER WITH STAFF'S CONDITIONS AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, GETTING THROUGH THAT IN, UH, RECORD TIME. OKAY. UM, AND EVEN GETTING EXTRA TIME. SOMEHOW OUR TIMEKEEPER WAS, UH, . DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE EXTRA MINUTES. SORRY MR. CHAIR. IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY. UM, I COUNT ON YOU NICK, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT ANYWAY, SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, LET ME GO DOWN THE LINE. NO, NO. , I'M ASSUMING THAT'S NO. AND MITCH, GO FOR IT. WHEN WILL CONSTRUCTION COMMENCE? WELL, THE, YEAH, SO WE ARE UNDER PERMITTED CONSTRUCTION NOW. UM, NOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE, THE, UH, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE, UH, THE, THE PERMITTING PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T, UH, MR. NOVIK, I, I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER. UM, BUT I, THEY, TIME IS MONEY. UM, AND SO WE ARE AMENDING, AS SOON AS WE GET THESE APPROVALS, WE'RE GONNA BE AMENDING THE PERMITS. UM, AND WE WERE EVEN THIS MORNING TALKING WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ABOUT HOW, HOW THE NEW ROAD IS GONNA, IS GONNA INTERACT WITH OUR CURB. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING. OKAY. HOW IS THE NEW ROAD GONNA ALLOW YOU TO ACTUALLY GET IN THERE TO BUILD YOUR BUILDING? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE AN ACCESS FOR YOU EITHER ON LINCOLN OR ON DREXEL. I, I, IT'S GONNA BE VERY INTERESTING. ALRIGHT, ELIZABETH. NO. SO COULD YOU PLEASE GO OVER, HOW IS YOUR LOADING PLAN? BECAUSE YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER OF THE OFF STREET PARKING. SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING INSTEAD OR, BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THE PRESENTATION DIDN'T SHOW THAT CLEARLY. OKAY. UH, SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, POSITION OF, UM, THE RESTAURANT TOGETHER WITH THE NEW, UM, WITH THE NEW, UM, CONFIGURATION ON DREXEL. SO THE, UM, THE ACTUAL TEXT OF THE ORDER THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON THAT MICHAEL PUT TOGETHER, IT SAYS THAT THE, THE REQUIRED TWO OFF STREET LOADING SPACES SHALL BE WAIVED AND PROVIDED IN THE COMMERCIAL FREIGHT FREIGHT ZONES ALONG DREXEL AVENUE, SIXTH STREET, 16TH STREET, OR PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PARKING DEPARTMENT AND STAFF CONSISTENT WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND OR DIRECTIONS FROM THIS BOARD. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ON ONSITE EXISTING CITY LOADING AREAS. UM, IT'S NOT DEPICTED, UH, YET TODAY. SO DO YOU MIND PULLING UP THE PLAN, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS SINCE DIRECT IS BECOMING PEDESTRIAN MM-HMM . ONE PART IS WE BLOCKED, BUT I THINK YOU ARE ON SIDE. ABSOLUTELY. AND IF YOU COULD JUST SHOW US ALL THE PATIENT YEAH, SURE. WE GO TO THE FIRST FLOOR SITE PLAN. I HOPE IT GOES OFF THE SITE SUFFICIENTLY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOES. UM, IT, WELL IT DOES DEPICT DREXEL, UM, BUT IT DOES NOT GO SUFFICIENTLY OFF THE SITE. GO TO HERE. WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO TO THIS AERIAL, UM, HERE, ELIZABETH, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS. UM, SO, UH, THERE AS PLEASE USE THE CURSOR TO EXPLAIN YOUR POINTS. OKAY, PERFECT. GREAT. SO, ROB, IF YOU CAN POINT OVER TO PENNSYLVANIA, UM, IS ONE OF THE, UM, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL LOADING ZONES TO COME THROUGH. UM, IT COULD BE ALONG DREXEL. UH, I BELIEVE THERE IS, UM, A LOADING ZONE TO THE SOUTH OF THE CLOSED AREA ON DREXEL, WHICH IS PROBABLY, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE MY, MY ANSWER. EVEN THOUGH PENNSYLVANIA IS CONTEMPLATED BY THE ORDER, UM, AS WELL AS 16TH STREET. UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A, THERE ARE LOADING, UH, ZONES ON DREXEL TO THE SOUTH AND PRIOR TO THE CLOSURE AREA OF THE CITY. YEAH. CAN YOU SHOW US THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND WHERE IS ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE ENTRANCE? WHERE ALL THE, OKAY, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. GOOD MORNING. ADRIAN DUKOWSKI WITH KIMLEY HORN. I'M THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT, UH, OFFICES AT TWO ALEJANDRO [01:50:01] PLAZA AND CORAL GABLES. UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY AN EXISTING LOADING ZONE ON 16TH STREET EAST OF DREXEL. SO THAT COULD BE USED ALSO. UM, DREXEL, WHEN IT'S, UM, BEING REWORKED WITH THE CITY'S UM, UH, PROJECT, THERE WOULD BE A CUL-DE-SAC PROVIDED THERE. SO THE TRUCKS WILL BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND WITHIN THAT CUL-DE-SAC AND THEN PULL INTO, UH, A LOADING ZONE THAT WOULD BE, UH, ASSIGNED ON DREXEL AVENUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, LINDSEY? NO. NO. OKAY. UM, SO NOW DO WE HAVE, UH, BOARD ANY DISCLOSURES? NO DISCLOSURES, NO DISCLOSURES. UH, LET'S OPEN PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY, UM, IN CHAMBERS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? THERE'S NOBODY PRESENTLY IN LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. YES, I'M, YES. GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. ALL I CAN SAY IS WHEN CAN WE GET THIS DONE? WE ARE SO EXCITED THAT THIS WHOLE EAST SIDE OF LINCOLN ROAD IS GOING TO BE ELEVATED BETWEEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SALES RESIDENTIAL, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE 400 BLOCK. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ADDED ELEVATION TO THE REVITALIZATION OF LINCOLN ROAD. SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET THIS GOING, THE BETTER. UM, AND WE'RE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. ARE WE STILL? WHATEVER. HELLO AGAIN. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU AGAIN. I'M STILL JULIE ISAACSON AND I'M STILL HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, 1620 DREXEL AVENUE MDPL POSITION. WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. WE APPRECIATE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING ACTIVATION AND INVESTMENT TO LINCOLN ROAD. HOWEVER, WE HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED ROOFTOP CANOPY STRUCTURE. WE STRONGLY URGE THAT THE ROOFTOP CANOPY BE DESIGNED AND SCREENED TO ENSURE IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET LEVEL ACROSS THE STREET. THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A RE ROOFTOP CANOPY STRUCTURE THAT IS VERY VISIBLE AND OVERPOWERS THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. ADDITIONALLY, WE ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO ENSU ENSURE THAT THE BUILDING DESIGN ALLOWS FOR ADAPTABILITY AND POTENTIAL FUTURE CONVERSION TO ALTERNATIVE USES. SHOULD THE RESTAURANT CONCEPT NOT SUCCEED GIVEN THE SUBSTANTIAL 20,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT, THE BUILDING SHOULD BE DESIGN. UH, THE BUILDING SHOULD BE DESIGNED WITH FLEXIBILITY TO ACCOMMODATE MULTIPLE TENANTS OR ALTERNATIVE COMMERCIAL USES WITHOUT REQUIRING SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL MODIFICATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT. UM, WE ARE CLOSING. WE HAVE STILL NOBODY ONLINE. SO CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MENTION? REBUT, I AM JUST, YEAH. AND OTHER RESTAURANTS YOU VISITED, OTHER, OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO, PLACES YOU'D LIKE TO EAT. IT'S JUST BEFORE LUNCH. YOU HAVE MANY, MANY, YOU CLEARLY HAVE MANY OPTIONS IN MIND. , IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, PLEASE. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THE DETAILS OF THAT, UH, STRUCTURE, UH, IS IN THE, UH, ORDER TO BE WORKED OUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF. SO, UM, THEY WILL HAVE A WATCHFUL EYE JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT CONCERN. WE ARE, WE ARE CONCERNED AND STAFF IS CONCERNED. IT'S IN THE ORDER. THANK YOU. AND, AND MICHAEL, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? OBVIOUSLY STAFF IS OKAY WITH BEING ABLE TO KIND OF YES. MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S TUCKED INTO THE FRAME AND, UH, YEAH, RIGHT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACTUAL LIVING LANDSCAPING. 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN EXACTLY SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE FAKE PLANTS UP THERE. SO WE ADVISE THEM, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE REAL PLANTS RIGHT. FOR SCREENING. AND WE HAVE ALSO, UM, DISCUSSED WITH THEM. PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD MORE STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, FACING LINCOLN ROAD. THEY WERE MORE INTRUSIVE. THEY'VE REMOVED THOSE. SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. PERFECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, UM, NOW WE'RE AT THE FINAL STAGE OF EITHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENT OR A BOARD MEMBER MO PROPOSAL OF, UM, A MOTION OR WHATEVER. ANYBODY WANNA START? IF, IF NO, I'M GONNA SUGGEST WE SHOULD HAVE TWO MOTIONS ON THIS ONE FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND ONE FOR THE VARIANCE. ONE FOR THE VARIANCE, YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. IF NO ONE HAS ANY COMMENT, I'LL MAKE, UH, THOSE MOTIONS. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU START? WE SHOULD, WE USUALLY START WITH THE, THE C OF A FIRST CERTIFICATE OF APP APPROPRIATENESS, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEP. OKAY. UH, UH, MOTION FOR THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS [01:55:01] IS MY MOTION AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS PER STAFF'S, UH, CONDITIONS. I SECOND THEM. SECONDED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. AND NOW A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE, UH, VARIANCE. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL GO FASTER NEXT TIME. YOU'RE WELCOME. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT ONE OF THESE PLACES. YOU DON'T WANNA GO ANY FASTER , I KNOW, BUT JUST ALL THOSE OH YEAH, ALL THOSE RESTAURANTS. SO, MOVING ALONG TO [4. HPB25-0667 a.k.a. HPB20-0442, 100 21st Street.] THE NEXT APPLICATION IS HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 7 120 FIRST STREET AND APPLICATIONS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY ISSUED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE HOTEL BUILDING THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF AN ACCESSORY CABANA STRUCTURE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF GROUND LEVEL AND ROOFTOP ADDITIONS, ONE OR MORE WAIVERS AND A VARIANCE TO RELOCATE SIGNAGE TO A NON-ST STREETE FACING FACADE. SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEMOLITION SINCE 2021. HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD HAS APPROVED MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR THIS, FOR THE RENOVATION REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT HOTEL PROPERTY. THE INITIAL APPROVAL ON JUNE 15TH, 2021, AUTHORIZED PARTIAL DEMOLITION RESTORATION AND NEW GROUND LEVEL AND ROOFTOP ADDITIONS. SUBSEQUENT APPROVALS EXPANDED THE SCOPE ON NOVEMBER 20, ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 TO INCLUDE FULL, FULL DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PORTICO SHARE DUE TO STRUCTURAL ISSUES. AND ON MAY 13TH OF THIS YEAR TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION OF THE SOUTH AND WEST ADES AND ALL FOUR PLATES AS PART OF THE ONGOING RESTORATION PROJECT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A 1950 POSTMODERN HOTEL DESIGNED BY ALBERT ANNIS. NOW FOLLOWING DISCOVERY OF MAJOR STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES, SPECIFICALLY AS NOTED IN THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OR, UM, APPLICATION, THE APPLICANTS OF PILES, WE CONCRETE AND UNSAFE SLAB CONDITIONS, ENGINEERS DETERMINED THAT SAFETY SAFELY RETAINING THE FULL HEIGHT OF THE NORTH FACADE WASN'T FEASIBLE. THE BUILDING OFFICIAL CONCURRED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT AND RECOMMENDED THE DEMOLITION OF THE TOP THREE FLOORS TO REDUCE WIND LOADING AND PREVENT COLLAPSE WHILE PRESERVING THE LOWER FOUR FLOORS OF THE NORTH FACADE FOR RESTORATION. THE PROJECT WILL STILL CONS, STILL RECONSTRUCT THE BUILDING CONSISTENT WITH THE 2021 APPROVAL WHILE MAINTAINING THE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT NORTH FACADE DESIGN. GIVEN THE SAFETY RISKS, PROLONGED VACANCY AND THE PROJECT'S BENEFIT TO THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC DISTRICT STAFF SUPPORTS THE EXPANDED SCOPE OF DEMOLITION STEP, ALSO RECOMMENDS EXTENDING THE PREVIOUSLY GRANTED WAIVER UNDER SECTION TWO POINT 12.8 OF THE CITY CODE, ALLOWING THE EXISTING NONCONFORMING FLOOR AREA HEIGHT, SETBACKS AND PARKING CREDITS TO REMAIN AS THE STRUCTURE MEETS THE MULTIPLE PRESERVATION CRITERIA REFLECTED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND, AND CONTR AND CONTRIBUTION TO MIAMI BEACH HISTORIC CHARACTER. SO I'M RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UM, BASED UPON THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES NOTED IN THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AND ALSO WANNA ADD THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, HAS DONE THEIR BEST TO TRY TO, UM, PROCEED WITH, UM, UM, MEASURE DEMOLITION. THEY DIDN'T COME TO THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THIS DEMOLITION ALL AT ONCE. IT WAS ONLY AFTER REPEATED, UM, INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY WERE SORT OF FORCED, UM, UPON THIS ROUTE. SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO STILL RESTORE THE BUILDING AND RECONSTRUCT IT AS APPROVED BACK IN 2021. I TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCDOWELL FOR HIS PRESENTATION. UH, E EXCUSE ME, UH, UH, FOLKS, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, MICHAEL, AND THE CHAIR, UH, UH, IS BECAUSE WE HAVE LITIGATION WHICH, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, AND WAS AMICABLY RESOLVED. SO I'M GONNA STEP OUT. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS CARTER MCDOWELL. BILLS INBERG 1450, UH, BROOK AVENUE. I HAVE NICK NOTTO, MY COLLEAGUE HERE WITH ME. WE HAVE OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, YUSEF AND, UM, OUR, UH, ARCHITECT OF RECORD, UH, ALTOS HERE ALSO. UM, THE CODE REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, FROM PAST HAVING BEEN HERE MULTIPLE TIMES NOW, UM, THERE WAS LITIGATION AS YOU JUST HEARD, THE LITIGANTS INVOLVED WITH A TIE AND THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION AND ONE OF THE MAJOR OWNERS. AND MR. NOVI WAS ALSO ONE OF THE, THE PLAINTIFFS IN THAT LITIGATION. I'M REQUIRED BY CODE TO DESCRIBE THAT BECAUSE WE DID AMICABLY RESOLVE IT AND THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT PARTICIPATING. UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, I, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS BOTH A COMPLICATED AND A [02:00:01] AND SIMPLE, UH, APPLICATION. I THINK, UM, AS YOU HEARD, AS WE CONTINUED TO IMPLEMENT THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS. UM, AND AS YOU'VE READ, I THINK WE, THE BUILDING BEGAN TO HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT VIOLATIONS AND ACTUALLY MOVE. SO OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SHUT THE JOB DOWN, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE VERY CONCERNED THAT THERE COULD BE A COLLAPSE. UM, AND OF COURSE WE WERE AT THAT POINT, AT THE BEGINNING OF HURRICANE SEASON WITH A VERY WEAK BUILDING. UM, WE HAVE BEEN ALL LUCKY THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A HURRICANE. LET US KEEP, KEEP THAT RECORD GOING. UM, BUT THE, THE ENGINEERS STOP THE JOB. WE DID ADDITIONAL TESTING. THE THIS BUILDING, EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT IT GETS WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS. UM, AND SO HIS CONCLUSION WAS WE REALLY COULDN'T SAFELY MAINTAIN THE FULL SEVEN STORY HEIGHT OF THE FRONT FACADE, WHICH WE HAD COMMITTED TO YOU THAT WE WOULD TRY TO DO. UM, HE HAS RECOMMENDED, AND THE BUBU, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS ALREADY APPROVED HIS RECOMMENDATION AND CONCURRED AND HIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE THAT FRONT FACADE DOWN TO SAVE THE BOTTOM FOUR LEVELS OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, WHICH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING. WE HAVE BEEN IN, IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THE SITE, WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING HIS ORDER, UM, SINCE IT WAS ISSUED IN JULY. UM, WE DID AS THE CODE ASKED US TO DO, WE DID FILE AN AFTER THE FACT, UH, UH, C OF A REQUEST. UM, BUT PARTICULARLY WITH HURRICANE SEASON UPON US, WE REALLY NEEDED TO REDUCE THE WEIGHT AND THE WINDAGE OF THAT FACADE LESS WE SHOULD GET A STORM OR HAVE OTHER ISSUES. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALMOST ZERO SETBACK WITH THIS BUILDING ALONG A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UM, WHICH ENHANCES THE NEED FOR SAFETY. UM, AND SO WE, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL APPROVED THAT, THAT, UH, DEMOLITION AND WE ARE HERE EFFECTIVELY TO CONFORM THE C OF A TO WHAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL'S RULING IS, UH, AND TO MOVE FORWARD. AS MICHAEL CORRECTLY SAID, YOU WILL SEE THE ORIGINAL PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED. WE ARE NOT CHANGING IT, WHICH JUST IN EFFECT MEANS AND METHODS RESPONDING TO THE TERRIBLE STRUCTURAL CONDITION OF THIS BUILDING. UM, AND WE HOPE TO NOT SEE YOU AGAIN UNTIL WE , UNTIL WE GET THIS BUILDING BUILT. UH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND STOP. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? NO, UH, NOT RIGHT NOW. JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE BASICALLY DEMOLISHING AND REBUILDING THE THING. THE WE WILL PRESERVE THE BOTTOM FOUR FLOORS IS OF THE FRONT FACADE, RIGHT? THE BUILD BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE REMOVAL OF THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE. IT WAS JUST THE NORTH FACADE THAT WE WERE TO KEEP. IT'S BEEN DETERMINED WE REALLY CAN'T SAFELY KEEP THAT SEVEN STORY FACADE. SO THERE WE WILL PRESERVE THE BOTTOM FOUR FLOORS OF THAT FACADE AND WE WILL REBUILD FROM THERE. AND YOU WILL SEE THE PROJECT THAT THIS BOARD APPROVED NOW ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO. UM, AND THERE NO CHANGE IN THE APPROVED PROJECT AT ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND TRUST ME, WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE HERE ASKING FOR THIS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. ALRIGHT, SEEING NO MORE, UH, NO QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY, UM, BOARD DISCLOSURES? ANY DISCLOSURES? NO. OKAY. NO. NO, NO. OKAY. UH, CAN WE OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING? THERE'S NOBODY IN LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. THERE'S SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE I'D LIKE SPEAK IN THIS APPLICATION. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING. WHEN WE FINISH THE AFTERWARDS, I'LL, I'LL YOU'LL COME BACK. HELLO, YET AGAIN. JULIA ISAACSON ON BEHALF OF THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, 121ST STREET MDPL POSITIONS, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE STRUCTURE CHALLENGES. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES DISCOVERED DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE BULGARIA HOTEL, FORMERLY SEAGULL HOTEL, AND DO NOT OPPOSE THE ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION REQUESTS PROVIDED THAT THE VISIBLE FACADES AS APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN ARE MAINTAINED. HOWEVER, WE NOTE OUR CONTINUED CONCERN WITH THE PIECEMEAL NATURE OF THE DEMOLITION REQUEST OF THIS PROJECT. THE PROJECT PREVIOUSLY CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN MAY, 2025 FOR ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION APPROVAL. THE PROJECT NOW RETURNS WITH A REQUEST FOR FURTHER DEMOLITION OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE TOP LEVELS, INCLUDING THE NORTH FACADE. WE WOULD PREFERRED TO SEE COMPREHENSIVE STRUCTURAL [02:05:01] ASSESSMENTS AND PLANS AT THE OUTSET OF PROJECTS, RATHER THAN THESE CONTINUED INCREMENTAL REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE REVITALIZATION OF THIS LONG DORMANT PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S IT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO I HAVE ONE BRIEF REQUEST AND WE'VE, WE'VE SENT LANGUAGE TO MICHAEL IN THE DRAFT ORDER UNDER THE RAY THAT DESCRIBES IT. WE BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE, CAN YOU POINT TO THE NUMBER AND THE, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY THE RAY AT THE VERY TOP OF THE CONSOLIDATED ORDER THAT'S PART OF YOUR OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND IT'S NOT A CHANGE. IT IS. OKAY. SIMPLY TO ADD REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DID ISSUE AN ORDER FOR THIS DEMOLITION ON JULY 15TH, 14TH, SORRY. UM, WE'VE PROVIDED LANGUAGE TO MICHAEL. I CAN READ OUR LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK THE STAFF CAN ACTUALLY USE PRODUCE LANGUAGE. WE JUST THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU AND FOR US TO REFERENCE THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL REVIEWED THIS ISSUE AND ISSUED AN ORDER ON JULY 14TH, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING SINCE CARTER. CAN YOU READ THE LANGUAGE JUST SO SURE. UM, IT WOULD REPLACE THE, THE LAST LINE SAYS, REQUESTING TO EXCEED THE SCOPE OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEMOLITION. UM, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONFORM THE SCOPE OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEMOLITION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION APPROVED BY THE BILLING OFFICIAL, UH, ON JULY 14TH PURSUANT TO SECTION 13.1, TH TWO POINT 13.1. UH, THE RESILIENCY CODE OR VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE, YOU, IF YOU WANNA CHANGE YOUR, THAT'S FINE. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. I THINK THAT'S FINE. UH, WE JUST THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S AN INVOLUNTARY REQUEST AT THE END OF THE DAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION? NO, SEEING NONE, UM, UH, IS, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO, UM, PROPOSE A MOTION? I, I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE SUBJECT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. RAY IS SECONDING IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SIX TO ZERO. SIX TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK. WE, WE AGREE THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE KNOWN, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING AT THE BEGINNING. YOU I'M SURE THESE BUILDINGS YOU'VE LEARN AS YOU GIVE FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. [5. HPB25-0666, 225 Ocean Drive.] OUR NEXT APPLICATION IS HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 6 FOR 2 25 OCEAN DRIVE, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF ARTISTIC MURAL, THE CITY'S TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEPARTMENT. IN COORDINATION WITH THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES COMMITTEE SEEKS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL 120 SQUARE FOOT MURAL BY OUR ARTIST CHRISTINA PATTERSON PATTERSON, AND THE WEST FACADE OF THE RESTROOM BUILDING WITHIN MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS PARK. THE MIRROR WILL BE VISIBLE FROM OCEAN DRIVE AND BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS 100 SQUARE FEET, ALSO REQUIRES CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL UNDER SECTION 6.2 0.1 OF THE RESILIENCY CODE APPLICATION MATERIALS INCLUDE THE PROJECT HISTORY, ARTIST BIOGRAPHY, AND DETAILS OF MATERIALS AND MAINTENANCE. STAFF SUPPORTS THE PROPOSAL AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS INDICATED IN THE, UM, DRAFT CONDITION OF THE FINAL ORDER. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, MS. ANTE, UM, FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. GOOD MORNING. THIS ANTE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURE FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE, ART AND PUBLIC PLACES COORDINATOR, OSCAR REELING SANCHEZ. AND WE'RE THRILLED TODAY TO PRESENT TWO ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, UH, PROJECTS COMING TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, UH, SINCE 2023 WITH STAR CHILD ON THE CORNER OF 41ST AND PINE TREE DRIVE. THE CITY HASN'T HAD ANY MONUMENTAL NEW WORKS OF ART AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING, UH, THREE ACTUALLY IN 2026. UH, ONE JUST PASSED DRB, WHICH IS MICHELLE OKA DONOR AT BAY, UH, BAYSHORE PARK. AND TODAY WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UM, MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS PARK AT PJ. CAN YOU PLEASE BRING THE PRESENTATION UP? THANK YOU. UH, ON MARCH OF LAST YEAR, THE MIAMI BEACH COMMISSION FOR WOMEN HAD MADE A MOTION AT THEIR MEETING, UH, TO HONOR MY MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS BY, UH, CONTRIBU, WITH HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOUTH FLORIDA WITH A MURAL AT HER NAMESAKE PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 2 2 5 OCEAN DRIVE ON APRIL 3RD, 2024. THE ITEM, UH, WAS HEARD AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE. IT RECEIVED A FABLE RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, TO BE HEARD, UH, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, UM, [02:10:02] APPROVED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE A DIRECT SELECTION. AND WE SELECTED ARTIST CHRISTINA PETTERSON. UH, DUE TO HER EXTENSIVE, UM, PROVENANCE OF WORKING WITH ART, UH, THAT IS OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT, SO TO SPEAK. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OTHER PROPOSED WORK IN CHRISTINA'S BACKGROUND. UM, CHRISTINA CREATES LARGE SCALE DRAWINGS, VIDEOS, INSTALLATIONS, AND COLLABORATIVE PERFORMANCES THAT DELVE INTO FLORIDA'S HIDDEN STORIES AND ENDANGERED ECOSYSTEMS. SHE'S ALSO A FULBRIGHT SCHOLAR AND HAS RECEIVED AWARDS FROM NIGHT ARTS CHALLENGE, WAVEMAKER ELLIE'S, AND THREE CULTURAL CONSORTIUM FELLOWSHIPS. MM-HMM . PERFECT. AND TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE PROPOSED WORK AND THE NATURE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN IN QUESTION. AT MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS PARK, THE MIRROR WILL BE SUED ON THE PARKS, RESTROOM FACILITIES, WEST FACING WALL. THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS INSTALLATION, THE PARKS TEAM HAS ALSO PREPPED THE WALL SITE BY FILLING THE SEAMS OF THE CONCRETE AS WELL AS PREPPING THE SURROUNDING SITE WITH MULCH. UH, WE ALSO SELECTED THIS SIDE OF THE, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING. SO IT, UH, RECEIVES LESS AMOUNT OF SUNLIGHT, UH, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THE WORK TO MAINTAIN ITS INTEGRITY FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. UH, THE CONCRETE VINYL IS A MATERIAL THAT'S BEEN USED AT THE FROST HEART MUSEUM. THEY HAVE A MURAL THAT'S BEEN UP NOW FOR SIX YEARS, AND IT'S PRETTY IMPECCABLE. SO WE FEEL STRONGLY, UH, THAT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST, UH, WAY TO HONOR MARJORIE STONE AND DOUGLAS AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE WORK. UM, THANKS, LIZETTE. THE SITE WALL, AS WE'RE SEEING IS 16 BY SEVEN, WHICH WOULD BE THE LEFT, UH, SORT OF SEGMENT, UH, DEPICTED ON SCREEN. AND THE CITY ALSO PLANS TO PROVIDE A HISTORICAL MARKER NOTING ARTERY'S CONTRIBUTION TO SOUTH FLORIDA AND MIAMI BEACH. UH, SO I'VE APPROVED TODAY, UM, AS PER THE A IPP ORDINANCE, IT WILL REQUIRE MAYOR AND COMMISSION APPROVAL. UH, ONCE THEY RECEIVE APPROVAL, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, CONTRACTING DIRECTLY WITH THE ARTIST. AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS IN SPRING OF 2026, HOPEFULLY MARCH AND CELEBRATION OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. AND THIS IS THE ACTUAL RENDERING THAT'S SURRENDERING. AND DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? IT DOES. EXCELLENT. WE'RE TRYING TO BE SUCCINCT AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT BEING SUCCINCT , BUT THANK YOU. UM, SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR THE APPLICANTS? GO AHEAD, MITCH. YEAH, HI LIZETTE. UH, GOOD MORNING, MITCH. SO THE VINYL STICKER OR THE WRAP IS 23, 2400. ARE WE PAYING THE ARTISTS OR IS? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT IS 15,000, WHICH INCLUDE YES, IT INCLUDES, UH, PRODUCTION OF THE WORK, INSTALLATION AND ARTIST FEE. WE ALWAYS PAY OUR ARTISTS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. OKAY. AND THE AND THE WORK IS UNIQUE. IT WON'T BE FOUND ANYWHERE OR CAN'T BE FOUND. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF YOU CAN, UH, PJ WE CAN SHARE THE SCREEN AGAIN. YOU'D SEE, UH, SHE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. IS IT ME? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? UH, YOU'RE SPEAK. OKAY. OKAY. IF YOU SEE THE SCREEN, THIS IS THE ARTIST RENDERING. IT'S UNIQUE. SHE PAINTED THIS BY HAND. OKAY. THAT'S NICE. THANK YOU. UM, I HAD, UH, TWO QUESTIONS. ONE WAS, UM, ABOUT THE HISTORICAL MARKER IN THE RENDERING THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT, I DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE THE MARKER, UM, INDICATED, BUT LIKE, IS IT ALSO VINYL? LIKE WHAT IS IT LIKE NO, TYPICAL, LIKE YOU SEE IN PARKS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STATE WHO MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS WAS. AND WHY IS THIS HERE? IS IT BRONZE OR IS IT LIKE, IS IT ON THE GROUND? THE WALL, WE WANNA KEEP IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, WHAT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAMS HAVE IN ALL CITY PARKS. IT WOULD BE WHATEVER SIGNAGE THEY USE. SO IT'S NOT ON THE WALL WITH THAT? NO, NO, NO. IT'S A FREESTANDING SIGN. FREE FREESTANDING SIGN. MM-HMM . AND THE OTHER THING, BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE THIS, IT'S ON A, IT'S ON A WEST WALL. IT'S GONNA HAVE, IT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF SUN IN THE AFTERNOON. BUT, UM, IN THE EVENING, I WAS IS IT GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED AT ALL OR IS THE PARK NOT OPEN AFTER SUNSET OR? I, I DON'T, I'M NOT QUITE SURE. I BELIEVE ALL PARKS ARE CLOSED AFTER SUNSET, BUT THIS FACILITY SHOULD HAVE SOME LIGHTING, UH, BECAUSE IT IS, UM, A FACILITY, A RESTROOM FACILITY. YEAH. SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S DARK. SO THERE WILL BE LIGHTING ON THE, ON THE, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE MURAL AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S, WE CAN CHECK WITH OUR PARKS AND REC, UH, COLLEAGUES OF HOW THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY LIT, BUT OKAY. SO WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE ORDER. YOU CAN SEE THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING TONIGHT. SO YOU CAN, SO IT'S LIT FROM A, FROM THE GROUND? WELL, IT'S NOT LIT FROM THE GROUND, BUT YOU, YOU CAN, IT'S LIT FROM SOMEWHERE. OKAY. YOU SEE THE BUILDING? WELL, I'M JUST, [02:15:01] YEAH. OKAY. I, I WOULD JUST, ALL I DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT PIECE. IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENING AS WELL. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HUGELY LIT, IT'S NOT, BUT JUST SO THAT IT'S VISIBLE ONLY TOOK FIVE YEARS TO LIGHT MIAMI MOUNTAIN . YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU RAY. UM, CAN I ASK? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. SO HOW ARE YOU TREATING THE SURFACES? 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE IMAGE ITSELF DOESN'T TAKE THE WHOLE WALL. SO THERE IS AN EDGE ON THE SIDES ON THE BOTTOM. HOW ARE YOU TREATING THIS LITTLE EDGES OF THE BUILDING AND WHAT'S THE COLOR OF THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE COLOR OF THE PAINTING, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BLEND IN WITH THE CONCRETE VINYL. THERE'S, I'M NOT SURE I'M CLEAR ON YOUR QUESTION. SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE YOU TREATING THE SURFACES THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE PAINTING? THOSE WILL REMAIN AS IS. OKAY. IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE PAINTING LOOK NICER. MY PERSONAL OPINION, UH, UM, LIKE WHEN YOU SEE A PAINTING, A MUSEUM FOR INSTANCE, IT USUALLY HAVE A FRAME OR WHATEVER TO HIGHLIGHT THE PAINTING. AND HERE IT'S NOT LIKE REALLY CENTER ON THE WALL BECAUSE IT GOES THE WHOLE WAY FROM THE EVE AND THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT AND THERE IS NO CLEAR SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ARTWORK AND THE WALL. THE UTILITARIAN WALL THAT'S BEHIND. I THINK IT'S KIND OF, IT'S A DISSERVICE. IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER. FEEDBACK IS WELL RECEIVED. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT IN TERMS OF THE SITUATION, THE PLACEMENT OF THE WORK RELATIVE TO THE WALL SURFACE ITSELF. UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS SHARED BY CHRISTINA, JUST IN TERMS OF, UM, ENSURING CONSERVATION OVER TIME WAS WATER INTRUSION. SO NATURALLY, WE'LL IT WILL BE EXPOSED TO ELEMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BEACHFRONT AND TO KIND OF MITIGATE THAT EFFECT. THAT'S WHY IT WAS SUGGESTED TO KIND OF CENTER IT IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, THAT SPACING THAT WE SEE THERE. BUT WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. MITCH. IMPERFECTIONS IN THE EXISTING STUCCO, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THE WALL IS SCORED. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR WILL BE ADDRESSED UPON INSTALLATION? OUR PARTS TEAM KINDLY, UM, TOOK CARE OF THAT JUST NOW. AND IN FACT, SOME DEGREE OF TEXTURE IS HELPFUL TO ENSURE PROPER ADHESION FOR THE CONCRETE VINYL. BUT WHAT'S REALLY REMARKABLE ABOUT IT IS THAT IT LOOKS PAINTED. THAT'S REALLY THE EFFECT THAT IT CREATES. GOT IT. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEN? UH, ANY DISCLOSURES? DISCLOSURES, DISCLOSURES? NO. ALRIGHT. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, JULIE. AYE. AND THERE'S NOBODY LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED AND THERE'S SOMEONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. THERE'S NO ONE. OKAY. HELLO. WE END AGAIN. HELLO. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. MUCH APPRECIATED. OKAY. 3 23 20 THIRD STREET. WAIT, WAIT. 2 25. NO, 2 25 OCEAN DRIVE. 2 25 OCEAN DRIVE. EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I SEE THAT I MAY NOT BE. OKAY. APOLOGIES. WE ARE NOT COMMENTING ON THAT PARTICULAR SUBJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENT? ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE? NO. OR ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, PROVE THIS PROJECT AS PER, UH, STAFF'S CONDITIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. AND CAN WE INCLUDE LIGHTING IN THAT? YEAH, THE LIGHTING. JUST TO, TO TRY TO LIGHT IT AT NIGHT. ILLUMINATE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S, WE'LL SAY IF POSSIBLE IF PO I SAID IF POSSIBLE YES. IT, IT WASN'T, YES, BUT I WOULD REALLY, IT'S REALLY NICE. I MEAN, IT'S LIT UP. THE, THE RENDERING THAT YOU SHOWED YEAH. SHOWS IT KIND OF IN SHADOW BUT LIT. I ALMOST THOUGHT IT WAS BACK LIT. LIKE A, LIKE A T LIKE A BOX WAS JUST FROM THE RENDERING. BUT I REALIZE THAT'S NOT, NOT THE CASE. NO. DAVE, THANK YOU. I ACCEPT THAT. UH, AMENDMENT. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SEVEN TO ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS ON. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ITEM THE REST OF THE DAY OFF. NO, NO, NO. SHE CAN'T. WE WON'T WANT, SHE HAS ANOTHER ONE TO DO. WE'LL BE SUPER QUICK. OH, YEAH, YEAH. THIS ONE'S A LET ME JUST GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. UM, SO JUST, I'LL, I'LL GIVE THE INTRODUCTION FIRST. SO [6. HPB25-0668, 1200 Meridian Avenue.] THIS IS HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 8 FOR 1200 MED AVENUE. THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. ART INSTALLATION WITHIN FLAMINGO PARK. UM, PURSUANT TO CITY COMMISSION RESOLUTIONS, THE A PP COMMITTEE WAS DIRECTED [02:20:01] TO COMMISSION A FLAMINGO THEMED ARTWORK FOR FLAMINGO PARK USING BOND APPROVED FUNDS FOLLOWING A PUBLIC CALLED THE ARTIST. THE A IPP COMMITTEE SELECTED FLAMINGO MACHINE, A 20 FOOT TALL BY 14 FOOT WIDE SCULPTURE BY ARTIST KOICHIRO AZUMA AND ENGINEER JURO QUIDA TO BE INSTALLED AT THE PARK CENTRAL INTERSECTION. PROPOSAL INCLUDES DETAILED PROJECT DOCUMENTATION, ARTIST BIOGRAPHY AND MAINTENANCE PLAN. STAFF FINDS A PROJECT CONSISTENT WITH THE A A P OBJECTIVES AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LASETTE AGAIN. THANK YOU MICHAEL. AND YOU CAPTURED ALL THE DETAILS. UH, PETE JV COULD PLEASE BRING THIS UP. AND SO AS, UH, MICHAEL MENTIONED, THIS WAS A DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THE STAFF TO DO A CALL FOR ARTISTS FOR WORK THAT WAS FLAMINGO INSPIRED FOR FLAMINGO PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1200 MERIDIAN AVENUE. OUT OF 34 RESPONSES FROM ARTISTS, WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE. AND THE FINAL SELECTION FROM THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES COMMITTEE WAS THE FLAMINGO MACHINE BY THE ARTIST CHETO ZUMA. THANK YOU CETO. SPEAK TO, UM, A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE WORK FLAMINGO MACHINE IS INSPIRED BY THE MOVEMENT OF FLAMINGOS, MUCH LIKE CRANE TRUCKS, WHILE OBSERVING THEIR MOVEMENTS. THE ARTIST NOTICE SIMILARITY OF MECHANICS TO AN EXCAVATOR'S ARM IN MOTION. THE PROPOSED ARTWORK DESIGN WILL INCLUDE A BICYCLE, WHICH WHEN PEDALED BY PARK GOERS MOVES THE FLAMINGO'S NECK UP AND DOWN, OPERATING MUCH LIKE AN EXCAVATOR. BY COMBINING MOVEMENT, IMAGINATION, AND PLAY, THE SCULPTURE BECOMES A POWERFUL HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE THE SCULPTURE RUNS ON PEDALING, IT ALSO COMPLIMENTS OUR NEARBY SPORTS FACILITIES ENCOURAGING PHYSICAL ACTIVITY. THIS PROPOSED SCULPTURE IS BUILT TO PLAYGROUND SAFETY STANDARDS WITH GALVANIZED STEEL. NOW, TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND TO THE ARTIST, UM, PREVIOUS WORK, WAI CHIRO ASMA IS A TOKYO BASED ARTIST RECEIVING A PHD IN FINE ARTS FROM THE TOKYO UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS. AND HIS PRACTICE INCLUDES WELDING, MILLING, AND LATHE WORK, CREATING KINETIC SCULPTURES. BY COMBINING SCRAP MATERIALS SUCH AS METAL AND BICYCLES, HE HAS COMPLETED OVER 20 LARGE SCALE PUBLIC ART SCULPTURES. AND NOW WE MOVE INTO THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE SCULPTURE. THIS WORK WOULD BE FABRICATED IN JAPAN AND INSTALLED ON SITE IN THE PARK'S NORTH END CENTRAL JUNCTURE WITH A PROJECTED INSTALLATION DATE OF APRIL, 2026. THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH BOTH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND OUR PARKS DEPARTMENTS. THE OTHER HALF OF THE ARTIST COLLECTIVE INVOLVES STRUCTURAL ENGINEER GUITA. AS SUCH, THE ARTIST HAS SUBMITTED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, FOUNDATION DESIGN, STRUCTURAL CONSIDERATIONS, AND DESIGN WIND SPEED. OVERALL, THIS FUEL FRAMEWORK WILL RECEIVE A FULL HOT DIP GALVANIZING TO PROTECT THE EXTERIOR AS WELL AS INTERIOR OF ALL HOLLOW SECTIONS. THIS LAYER CAN SUPPRESS RED RUST FORMATION FOR UP TO 20 YEARS. THE STRUCTURE IS TRUSTED FOR ITS HIGH SAFETY AND DURABILITY MEETING STANDARDS SIMILAR TO THOSE REQUIRED AGAIN FOR PUBLIC PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. THE STRUCTURE HAS CONSIDERED DRIVETRAIN AND MECHANICAL SAFETY OF THE PIECE, AS WELL AS ACCESS AND STRUCTURAL SAFETY. ADDITIONALLY, THE STERILE IS DESIGNED THE NARROW WIDTH TO DISCOURAGE ASCENSION WITH CARRYING LARGE OBJECTS. AND IF I MAY ADD, WE GAVE FEEDBACK TO THE ARTISTS, UH, TO ADD, UM, SOME TYPE OF, UM, LOCKING SYSTEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STAIRS AND ALSO AT THE TOP OF THE LANDING, LIKE A DOOR WITH A LOCK AS WELL FOR EVENING. UM, WHEN THE PARK CLOSES TO AVOID ANY, YOU KNOW, UNWANTED GUESTS, UH, AFTER PARK HOURS. UH, THIS ITEM WAS ALSO PRESENTED TO THE FLAMINGO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON AUGUST 4TH. IT RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THEY WERE VERY EXCITED. UH, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PARK IS A, IS DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE. IT'S VERY, IT'S UTILITARIAN. UH, IT'S GOT SWIMMING, TENNIS, UH, IT'S VERY ACTIVE AND I FEEL THAT THIS WORK REALLY REPRESENTS THE, THE VIBRANCY OF THE PARK. AND AGAIN, DUE TO OUR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES ORDINANCE, THIS ITEM, IF APPROVED TODAY, WILL GO TO CITY COMMISSION AGAIN FOR APPROVAL. AND IT'S SLATED TO OPEN SOMETIME BEGINNING IN THE SPRING AGAIN OF 2026. AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? RANDY? IS, DOES THIS, UM, SUBJECT TO THE SAME FALL ZONE REQUIREMENTS AS A PLAYGROUND? AND HOW IS THAT BEING HANDLED? 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING THE RIGHT, THEY'RE UP IN THE AIR, WHICH I ASSUME YOU HAVE TO MEET THE STANDARD FALL ZONE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SURFACE UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURE. SO THERE'S, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE IMAGE PLEASE. THIS AREA IS ENCLO BE PLACED IN GRAPHS, WHICH WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED IN A PLAYGROUND. I'M SORRY. THIS ALLOWS CHILDREN TO GO UP ON THE STRUCTURE. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND IT'S, SO IT'S THE SAME AS THE STRUCTURE AND PLAYGROUND. IT WOULD BE ENCLOSED IS WHAT I MENTIONED. WE GAVE FEEDBACK TO THE ARTISTS. [02:25:01] SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AT THIS RENDERING, IT'LL HAVE A MESH ENCLOSURE THROUGH THE, THE WHOLE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE STAIRS AS WELL. BUT THE STAIRS ARE ACCESSIBLE, OPEN, THE STAIRS ARE OPEN. THE STAIRS WILL ALSO, UH, WE GAVE THEM FEEDBACK TO COVER THAT AS WELL. WHEN YOU SAY COVER IT, ARE YOU TALKING I'M, I'M NOT SURE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN A PLAYGROUND THAT HAS STAIRS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A FALL ZONE AROUND THE STAIRS. YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU HAVE A RUBBERIZED SURFACE SO THAT IF A CHILD FALLS, THEY DON'T FALL ON GROUND OR UNDERSTOOD CONCRETE. MM-HMM . AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PLACING IT IN THE GRASS AREA IN THE CENTER OF THE CIRCLE. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE, THE CIRCLE. OKAY. HERE. OOPS. YOU SEE. BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRING ANY FALL ZONES AROUND IT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE HEARING OF THAT, BUT WE DO TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE CAN ADD THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S NORMALLY DONE EITHER WITH A SYNTHETIC TURF OR A RUBBERIZED SURFACE. CORRECT. BUT YOU HAVE A DEPTH REQUIRED BY LAW TO KEEP THAT ZONE AROUND THE STRUCTURE. WE CAN ADD THAT. OKAY. JUST ON THAT POINT, CAN YOU GO BACK TO, YOU HAVE GREAT IMAGES OF TWO OTHER PIECES THAT HE DID. UM, YEAH, THOSE TWO. SO I GUESS THE ONE ON THE LEFT, TO YOUR POINT, RANDY DOES NOT HAVE A FALL ZONE ON IT. UM, BUT IT'S KIND OF ROPED OFF THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. UH, MIGHT THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SURFACE IS, BUT IT MIGHT. BUT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON THE, THE RIGHT BEING COMPLETELY ENCLOSED WHEN YOU GO UP. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE FLAMINGO TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT, YEAH. ON PLAYGROUND STRUCTURES, YOU, IT'S STANDARD THAT THIS IS A SCULPTURE THAT'S CUSTOMIZED. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE SUBJECT TO BY LAW THE SAME STANDARD. I'M SURE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD KNOW. YES. I THINK THIS IS VERY HELPFUL FEEDBACK. OKAY. SO WAIT, WAIT, I'M SORRY. RAY MIGHT, WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN COLLINS PARK. . WE'VE, EVER SINCE THE PARK WAS DESIGNED, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A, A FEATURE FOR CHILDREN AND WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE. SO I'M GREAT. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE DOING ONE FOR, FOR FLAMINGO PARK. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND, UM, I, I'M ALL FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE WORK WITH, UH, THE BASS AS WELL. AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SOME EXCITING PROPOSED WORKS, UH, TO ADD TO COLLINS PARK. OKAY. OKAY. UH, HASKELL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY? UH, NO. I'M OKAY. ARE YOU OKAY? ALRIGHT. MITCH LIZETTE, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, RAILING SYSTEM. IT WILL BE ENCLOSED SO THE, THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED FOR PICKETS. WHAT'S THAT MATERIAL? IS IT A, UH, IT'S A GALVANIZED STEEL. IT'S NOT A DIAMOND GRADING OR FOR THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF? NO. UH, AS YOU'RE, UH, TRAVERSING UP OR DOWN THE STAIRWAY, THERE'S A RAILING SYSTEM. MM-HMM . WHAT'S TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM FALLING THROUGH YOU. YOU, YOU SUGGESTED IT WAS A MESH AND I'M ASKING YOU WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT'S, IT WOULD BE THE SAME IF PLEASE, UM, PJ IF YOU COULD PLEASE KEEP THE PRESENTATION UP DURING THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU SEE THE, THE LANDING PART WHERE THE BICYCLE IS, AND I CAN'T ZOOM IN. WELL, I, BUT THERE IS A, LIKE A, THERE'S VERTICAL PICKETS ON THERE. YES. ALTHOUGH NOT DEPICTED ON THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN, BUT IN THE PLANTS, UH, GOING UP THE STAIRWAY, UH, FROM THE GROUND, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A ONE LANDING AND THEN YOU NEED TO GO REVERSE ANOTHER. YES. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A SHIP LADDER. UH, THE RISES AND TREADS, UH, THEY'RE OPEN. I I COULD IMAGINE, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GIVING YOU, UH, ENOR AN ENORMOUS HEADACHE TO, IF I MAY, I MENTIONED THAT WE GAVE DIRECTION TO THE ARTIST TO ENCLOSE IS SIMILAR TO THE LANDING AREA, TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ENSURE THAT WHAT, UH, NOTHING, UH, OCCURS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING. YEAH. I I, I'D STILL LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MATERIAL THAT IS. IS IT GOING TO, UH, IS IT GOING TO APPEAR INVISIBLE FROM FAR AWAY OR IS IT YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS. OKAY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CC CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT WE LIVE IN, I COULD IMAGINE THIS BEING A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE. UH, THEY'RE, THE, THE PARTS, UM, ARE MADE OUT OF REGULAR BICYCLE PARTS. UH, AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARTISTS ARE JAPANESE, WHICH IS ALSO AN ISLAND, AND THEY'RE USED TO BEING IN THAT TYPE OF CLIMATE OF SALT AIR. UM, SO WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THESE THINGS AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD. SURE. UH, MAINTENANCE WAS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AND SOMETHING WE STATED, UM, FROM THE INITIAL CALL TO ARTISTS. UM, SO THIS WOULD JUST REQUIRE REGULAR BICYCLE PARTS FOR REPAIR. SO IT WOULD, WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY SPECIALIZED SORT OF CARE. SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT HOW TO INCLUDE THIS AS A PART OF OUR ANNUAL, UM, WELL, 10 YEAR MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR SIGNIFICANT RESTORATION. YEAH. AND WHAT I'M ESPECIALLY [02:30:01] CONCERNED WITH IS, UH, CLOSING IT OFF TO TO, TO THOSE IN THE EVENING WHO MAY OTHERWISE WANT TO USE THIS. I DON'T WANT SEE A GATE AROUND IT WITH PADLOCKS OR A, UH, CHAIN LINK FENCE. UH, NO, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT. BUT WE SUGGESTED TO THE ARTISTS WAS TO, IF YOU SEE THE LANDING AREA TO DO A DOOR THAT YOU CAN CLOSE AND LOCK AND THEN ALSO DO LIKE A GATE TYPE THING AT THE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STAIRS SO THAT PARKS EMPLOYEES CAN LOCK IT. WE NEED TO SECURE THE SAFETY. YEAH. AFTER PARK CLOSURE. ALRIGHT. PARK FLA ISN'T CLOSED. PEOPLE CAN STILL WALK THROUGH IT. THEY CAN WALK THROUGH, BUT ON THE MIC, THE FACILITIES, RAY, RAY ON THE MIC, IF YOU HAVE IT ON MIC. OH, SORRY. UH, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S A WALKWAY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S OPEN 24 HOURS. I MEAN, CORRECT. BUT STOP, YOU JUST CAN'T GO INTO THE GRASS AREAS OF THE PARK. BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN CUT THROUGH. UM, SO THAT'S SITTING RIGHT THERE. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE GO, OH LOOK, LET'S JUST CLIMB UP THAT IT'S RIGHT BY THE WALKWAY. UM, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. SURE. AND IT WOULD BE CLOSED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER OF THE FACILITIES IN THE PARK. UH, DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT IN PLACE? A SERVICE AGREEMENT TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART, PART OF YOUR COST. RIGHT. SO AS PART OF ART, AND NICE TO MEET YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, AS PART OF ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE. SO WE DO ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OUR WORKS. WE ACTUALLY PREPARE THEM, UM, AND DO OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE FOR ART WEEK. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A 10 YEAR MASTER PLAN FOR ALL OF THE WORKS IN ART AND PUBLIC PLACES. SO THEY ALL GO THROUGH A MAJOR CONSERVATION EVERY 10 YEARS. WE DON'T DO, UH, THAT, THAT IS WHAT WOULD BE THE SERVICE PLAN. THIS IS A MECHANICAL INSTALLATION, SO UNDERSTOOD. IT'S, IT'S, UH, GOING TO NEED MORE THAN TYPICAL STATIONARY, UM, SCULPTURE. UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ENTER INTO A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH A MECHANICAL COMPANY THAT WILL SERVICE THIS. AND SO I'M JUST ASKING IS IT'S NOT SHOWN IN YOUR OVERALL COST OF 150,000 CORRECT. THAT THAT COST IS TO PRODUCE THE WORK, NOT TO MAINTAIN IT. WE HAVE OUR OWN, OUR PLACES FUNDING FOR THAT. SO THERE'S ANOTHER COST ADDED TO THIS BEYOND, AS WITH ALL OF OUR WORKS. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO, DUE TO THE CLIMBING OF THE SALT AIR, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL THE WORKS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS SERVICE AGREEMENT IS GONNA BE? NO. BUT AS, UM, MY COLLEAGUE OSCAR MENTIONED, IT'S MADE WITH REGULAR BICYCLE PARTS. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY NEW ORDERS TO PRODUCE ANY TYPE OF, UM, MATERIALS THAT ARE NOT EASY TO FIND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED. OH, ELIZABETH'S QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED. LINDSAY HAS NO QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY THIS, UH, PROJECT AND INTERESTED IN HOW IT WILL, UM, PLAY OUT. I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT MOVE. SO, UH, BUT WITH THAT, UM, WE CLOSE THE, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS? ANY DISCLOSURES? NO, NO DISCLOSURES. NOW WE OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S NOBODY LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. OKAY. AND THERE'S NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO IS INDICATED THAT THEY'RE WISHING TO, UM, TO SPEAK TO THIS. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL, UM, ASK FOR A BOARD MEMBER COMMENT OR A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ON THE, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON PLEASE, RAY? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, CERTIFICATE. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR FEEDBACK. THANK YOU, OSCAR. THANK YOU. RIGHT ALONG IS THE [7. HPB25-0658, 323 23rd Street.] APPLICANT HERE FOR THE NEXT APPLICATION, WHICH IS FOR 3 23 20 THIRD STREET. YES. THIS IS AN APP. THIS IS H PB 25 DASH 0 6 5 8. AN APPLICATION BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATION TO THE SOUTH FACADE. THE INTRODUCTION OF CANOPY STRUCTURES IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUTDOOR PIZZA OVEN, THE NON-CONTRIBUTING 1926 STRUCTURE. THE MUSEUM, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WAS ORIGINALLY A REPAIR FACILITY AND LATER ADAPTED FOR NIGHTCLUB USE. STAFF SUPPORTS THE OVERALL PROPOSAL, RECOMMENDS REFINEMENTS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC DISTRICT CON WITH THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC DISTRICT CONTEXT, SPECIFICALLY REPLACING THE SIMULATED WOOD BASE WITH A NEUTRAL OR NATURAL FINISH USING LETTER CANOPY AND SIGNAGE MATERIALS AND INTEGRATING NATIVE LANDSCAPING [02:35:01] FOR NOISE AND VISUAL BUFFERING. PROPOSED OUTDOOR, UM, BAR COMPLIES WITH REGULATION SINCE IT WILL BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC VIEW BY A PERGOLA AND LANDSCAPING. OVERALL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS ADDRESSING MATERIAL AND DESIGN CONSISTENCY WITHOUT TURN IT OVER TO THE, UM, APPLICANT FOR PRESENTATION. UH, GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WE HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION TODAY. UH, I WANTED TO PREFACE OUR PRESENTATION WITH A THANK YOU TO STAFF THIS PROJECT. UH, AND MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY WAS ACTUALLY INADVERTENTLY APPROVED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT PLANNING APPROVAL. THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT WAS PROCEEDING WITH THIS WORK. IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT PLANNING ACTUALLY DIDN'T APPROVE SOME OF THESE ITEMS. UH, IT CANNOT BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL, THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU. BUT THE THANK YOU IS BECAUSE, UM, MICHAEL, MISS DEBBIE AND JAKE, AND, AND TOM WAS VERY ACCOMMODATING, UH, RESPONDED VERY PROFESSIONALLY TO THE AIR FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND, AND PLANNING WAS GREAT AND RESOLVING THAT. SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE'RE BEFORE YOU NOW. UM, THIS HAS BEEN A NIGHTCLUB FOR A VERY LONG TIME, UH, DECADES ACTUALLY. AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE GOING ON IS A LOT OF THE CLUB GOERS ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OLDER. LUCKILY, THE MUSIC THEY LISTEN TO IS A LITTLE BIT QUIETER AND THE TASTE IS A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE MANY OF YOUR APPLICATIONS WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE SPEAKERS, MORE NOISE, MORE HEIGHT. UM, BUT THIS ONE, I, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF SCALING BACK. THERE IS AN OUTDOOR AREA THAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A VERY HARDCORE DANCE FLOOR. UM, WE'RE GONNA UNDO THAT. WE'RE GONNA REMOVE SOME OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING. WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT WITH SOFAS. UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE, UH, PREVIOUS PERGOLA THAT WAS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE, REMOVE IT FOR SOMETHING MORE SOPHISTICATED TO CREATE A SHADING DEVICE. WE'RE GONNA EMPLOY SHADING DEVICES ON THE FRONT FACADE AND BUILDING ITSELF, NOT JUST AN AWNING, BUT THESE, UH, KOREAN FINS THAT WILL HELP SHAPE THE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH AND WEST FACADES. UM, THERE'S A MODIFICATION TO THE DOORS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT'S, UH, KIND OF LIKE A METALLIC COVER THAT'S, THAT'S UP FOR YOUR APPROVAL. STAFF HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE GO WITH SOME LIGHTER COLORS, AND PART OF OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS A RESPONSE TO THAT, WHERE WE WENT AHEAD AND CHANGED THAT MAIN AWNING TO A LIGHTER COLOR. US A SECOND. WE'LL UPLOAD THE SLIDES. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THESE YET BECAUSE WE JUST MADE THEM YESTERDAY. THIS TRY. THE POWERPOINT. OKAY. YES. SO THE FIRST FEW, FEW SIDES IS WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR SCREEN. SO I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THEM UNLESS THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MAJOR PARKING GARAGE. THERE. YOU SEE IT. THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, SUBJECT BUILDING IS THERE ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE. UM, THIS IS THE, UH, EXISTING FLOOR PLAN. YOU SEE WE'RE REMOVING A LOT OF THE SEATS IN FAVOR FOR BANQUETS AND SOFAS. THE, UM, EXISTING FACILITIES ALSO INCLUDE A BAR ON THE EXTERIOR. WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING THAT BAR FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, A DA EXISTING FACADE. PROPOSED LIGHTING PLAN, PROPOSED, UH, ROOF PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THE SCREENING OF THE HVAC SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE ALREADY APPROVED, NOT, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. THESE ARE THE TWO, UH, ENTRANCES AND EGRESS THAT WILL RECEIVE SOME LIGHTING AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. AND SOME, UH, WOOD MATERIALS THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE EXCHANGING FOR IN FAVOR OF LIGHTER MATERIALS. THIS IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED. AND THEN I'M GONNA SKIP DOWN TO, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW. UH, THESE ARE THE REAR PERGOLAS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, SO IN RESPONSE TO STAFF COMMENTS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO WITH A LIGHTER SCHEME. THE OWNER HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS, UH, INCLUDING THE AWNING. SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. ON THE LEFT HAND IS IN RESPONSE TO STAFF'S REMARKS. UM, ALSO WE HAD SINCE BROUGHT IN A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, THE VERY WELL KNOWN MR. MARSH CRIPPLING. UM, HE HAD GENERATED THIS PLAN FOR US AND PROPOSING SOME, UH, MORE NATIVE SPECIES IN THE BACK. UM, THE [02:40:01] PROPERTY DOES FACE A WATERWAY, SO IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMOVE THE INVASIVE SPECIES AND, UH, REPLACE THEM IN FAVOR OF, OF NATIVE. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I, I'LL START SINCE I DON'T SEE MY COLLEAGUES IMMEDIATELY JUMPING ON THIS. UM, SO THE SIMULATED WOOD PORCELAIN WAS REPLACED. UH, CAN YOU PUT IT BACK UP? PUT YOUR PRESENTATION BACK UP THE BEFORE AND AFTER. OKAY. ANYONE THAT, THAT ONE'S FINE. SO THE SIMULATED WOOD, UH, PORCELAIN TILE, UM, WHICH I THINK WAS AT THE BASE IS, IS REPLACED WITH WHAT NOW? SO THE BASE, I'M A BIG FAN OF OO LIGHT MM-HMM . BECAUSE IT'S NATURALLY OCCURRING AND RIGHT BENEATH OUR FEET. UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GO WITH FOR THE WAINS, SCOTT. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THE BLACK FINISH FOR THE ALUMINUM CANOPY ALONG THE, UM, ALONG THAT SIDE IS NOW, IS IT JUST A, WHAT IS IT A, A WHITE OR IS IT SILVER OR ALUMINUM? IT'S, IT'S AN OFF WHITE. WE'RE THINKING LIKE A BEIGE OR LIKE A, A LIGHT GRAY. OKAY. A PAINTED, A PAINTED METAL SURFACE? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND, UM, THE BLACK BACKDROP TO THE, THE BLACK BACKDROP TO THE SIGNAGE, UH, IS REPLACED WITH, IS IT JUST BLACK PAINT BEING REPLACED WITH WHITE OR SILVER OR IT LOOKS SLIGHTLY REFLECTIVE. IS IT ALUMINUM PAINT? YES. I THINK, UH, WORKING WITH STAFF OF COURSE, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY USE THE SAME MATERIAL AS THE AWNING. AS THE AWNING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FOR THE DOORWAYS, YOU SAW A DARK MATERIAL? YEAH. OF THE SOFFIT, I THINK. GO IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. GO AHEAD. THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE MOST HISTORIC BUILDING IN THE COLLINS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, PALM COURT WAS BUILT IN 1915, I BELIEVE, OR 1925, BUT STILL IT'S THE OLDEST BUILDING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE TWO STACKED SHIPPING CONTAINERS NEXT TO IT. UM, IT, IT DOESN'T TO ME, UM, PAY AT ALL ANY ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT IT'S NEXT TO THE MOST STARK BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST, AS I SAID, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE JUST TWO SHIPPING CONTAINERS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE EXTERIOR THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED. NOW, I NOTICED INSIDE YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A, LIKE A, A BRICK OVEN PIZZA OR WHATEVER. WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION GONNA BE? WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THE HOURS. THE CURRENT HOURS ARE FROM EIGHT TO FIVE ARE FROM WHAT? EIGHT TO FIVE? EIGHT, EIGHT O'CLOCK. IT STARTS THERE. 8:00 PM TO YOUR, OKAY. I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT YOU WERE LATER THAN THAT. 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND GET SOME PIZZA. THERE'S NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, JUST, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE, ON YOUR, ON THE STAFF OPINION OF THE, UM, OF ITS LOCATION NEXT TO THE HISTORICAL? WELL, IT'S A, A IT'S A PRETTY MODEST STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S REALLY NO, NO, UM, NOT MUCH ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL. WE WOULDN'T WANNA HAVE IT, HAVE IT, UM, CREATE LIKE A FALSE SENSE OF ARCHITECTURE OR CREATE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, MISLEAD SOMEONE TO THINK THAT THIS WAS AN HISTORICAL, UM, ELEMENT. SO WE WERE OKAY WITH GOING FOR THE MORE MODERN DIRECTION. AND SO IT DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE, UM, HISTORIC BUILDING NEXT DOOR. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU MICHAEL. ALRIGHT. UM, WITH THAT WE WILL GO TO DISCLOSURES. ANY DISCLOSURES? NO, NO. NO. OKAY. THEN, UH, WE WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THERE'S NOBODY ON LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE SPEAK ON ATION? NO. NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? NO. OKAY. THERE'S, THERE'S ONE PERSON NOW WITH THEIR HAND RAISED, UM, RON BLOOMBERG. HI, RON. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I AM TRYING TO, AM I ON MUTE RIGHT NOW OR CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? NO, WE, WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU. DO YOU, DO YOU SO SWEAR? UH, YES, I DO. I'M SORRY, I MISSED THE, UH, I MISSED THE SWEARING AGAIN. DO YOU MIND REPEATING IT? THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. UM, YES, I, UM, I AM THE OWNER OF THE PALM COURT BUILDING. MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE AT THE HEARING TODAY. UM, I WAS, UH, UNABLE TO GET SOME OF THE MATERIAL, UM, UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. UH, AND HAVING STUDIED IT, I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, I'M, I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, OF THE FACADE IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE RESTAURANT IMPROVEMENT. BUT I DID WANT TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION, UH, A VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT AND PARTICULAR FACT, UM, THAT A MATERIAL, [02:45:01] UH, ELEMENT OF THE OCCUPANCY LOAD OF THIS PROPERTY IS PREDICATED UPON AN EXTERIOR PAIR OF VIBRATED DOORS THAT LEAD DIRECTLY ONTO MY PROPERTY, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS. AND THERE IS NO CURRENT AGREEMENT OR ACCESS AGREEMENT, LEASE AGREEMENT, LICENSE AGREEMENT, OR ANYTHING IN PLACE. AND THE SET OF PLANS THAT HAS, THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SHOW AN OCCUPANCY LOAD THAT IS, UH, THAT IS ENTIRELY PREDICATED UPON THIS ACCESS POINT OUT OF THE SPACE. UM, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED BECAUSE WITH THE APPLICATION AND WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S APPROVAL, SUGGESTING THAT CERTAIN ITEMS WERE SATISFIED, INCLUDING LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, I FAILED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN BE SATISFIED IF THE ACCESS THAT THIS OCCU THAT THIS, UH, UH, ESTABLISHMENT IS RELYING UPON IS SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, UM, RELIANCE ON THE ACCESS THROUGH MY PROPERTY WHERE THERE IS NO AGREEMENT IN PLACE AT THIS PRESENT TIME. AND NOR HAS THERE BEEN ONE IN AT LEAST A DECADE, THERE IS A PAIR OF DOORS THERE AND THE DOORS LEAD ONTO MY PROPERTY. UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT PULLED A PERMIT YET TO BLOCK THAT ACCESS, AND THAT'S IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. SO I, I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE, UH, BROUGHT, UM, TO, TO THE BOARD'S, UH, ATTENTION AS THEY'RE GETTING READY TO APPROVE SOMETHING WITH A PARTICULAR OCCUPANCY LOAD, UH, AND REFERENCES IN THE SET OF PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, WHICH ARE NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR SPD PLAN AS JUXTAPOSED TO THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BOLDFACED WORDS ON THE SURVEY SAYS ADJACENT BUILDING ARE INTENTIONALLY OMITTED FROM THE SPD PLAN. AND IT ALSO LOOKS AS IF LIBERTY AVENUE IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY WHERE IT'S NOT. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD TO COMMENT ON THAT OR TO PERHAPS GIVE THE STAFF OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SOME DIRECTION AS TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS. BUT I WANTED TO GO ON RECORD, UH, HAVING MADE THAT COMMENT AS A MATERIALLY, UH, AFFECTED, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. THANK YOU. I'LL LET THE, AND TO TRY TO CLARIFY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I SEE THERE'S A FULL BOARD THERE. CAN WE RESPOND? SO FOR MY, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT RESPOND BECAUSE I HAD NO UNDERSTANDING BASED UPON THE PLAN SUBMITTED THAT THERE'S ANY EGRESS THROUGH A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. SO I'D LIKE THE APPLICANT TO BRING UP THE, THE FLOOR PLAN AND LET, AND LET US KNOW IF HE'S AWARE OF WHAT THE, UM, CALLER IS, UM, NOTING. SURE. I'VE, I'VE NEVER, UM, I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM MR. BLOOMBERG BEFORE. I I WISH HE HAD REACHED OUT TO ME BEFORE TODAY'S HEARING. SO THIS DOESN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EXPEND THE TIME OF THIS BOARD. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS HE'S SAYING IS, IS ACCURATE. SOME OF IT IS INACCURATE. ONE LIBERTY AVENUE NO IS NOT 10 FOOT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY. THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S SHOWN ON THE SURVEY. AND IT'S DESIGNATED WITH THE LITTLE SQUIGGLY LINE HERE THAT IT'S FURTHER DOWN. UM, THIS PROPERTY NOT UNLIKE, UH, MR. UH, ROSENBERG'S PROPERTY AND, AND PERHAPS SOME OF THE OTHERS, DOES USE AN ALLEYWAY AS PART OF ITS EGRESS, BUT NOT LIKE WHAT MR. ROSENBERG SAID IS IT'S BLOOMBERG. BLOOMBERG. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT HE SAID IS, THIS APPLICATION IS NOT PREDICATED ON USING THAT EXIT. THAT'S SIMPLY AN EXIT THAT HAS EXISTED IN THE LIFE SAFETY PLANS OF THIS BUILDING BEFORE WE'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED. UM, IT'S NOT EVEN DEPENDENT ON THAT EXIT. THE, UH, MINIMUM WIDTH OF EGRESS IS PROVIDED ENTIRELY THROUGH THE FRONT. SO IF, IF MR. BLOOMBERG'S POSITION IS THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, I MEAN ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL, WE'LL CLOSE THAT OFF AND HAVE THE APPLICANT EAGER THROUGH THE FRONT BECAUSE THAT'S TOTALLY ALLOWED. UM, BUT SOMETHING I I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS THIS ISN'T EVEN UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF PV AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS. UM, IF IT'S A CONDITION OF THIS BOARD HISTORICALLY THAT WE CLOSE THAT, I, I THINK WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT. SO I ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THAT THIS, THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT'S PENDING BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD. SO THE PLANNING BOARD IS GONNA ALSO REVIEW THE OPERATION OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE MODIFYING THIS SITE PLAN. SO, SO ANY SORT OF OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS SHOULD BE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE, OF THE PLANNING BOARD. BUT I THINK NOW, UM, WE CAN STATE, I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, UM, THE EGRESS INGRESS AND EGRESS SHOULD BE CONTEMPLATED BASED UPON, UM, WHAT COMING IN AND OUT ONLY WITHIN THE PROPERTY ITSELF, NOT THROUGH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. ABSOLUTELY. SO, AND [02:50:01] THE APPLICANT'S AGREEING UPON THAT YES. AGREEING TO THAT, YEAH, I, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS NOT A CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT. SO THAT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED BEFORE IT GOES TO ANY BOARD. AND ALSO, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, SO THESE, AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS HAS BEEN AN OPERATION FOR, FOR DECADES AND BASED UPON THEIR EXISTING, UM, BTR, I BELIEVE THE OCCUPANCY AROUND 550 PEOPLE. SO IT IS A, A RELATIVELY HIGH OCCUPANCY LOAD. IT SAYS 3 99 ON THE PLANT ON A 0 0 0. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING NOW. BUT THE, THE CURRENT APPROVAL RIGHT, IS FOR 550. SO WITH 399 AS THE PROPOSED OCCUPANCY, IS THAT, DO THEY STILL, DO THEY HAVE THE, UH, APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF EGRESS? UH, WE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, THIS BOARD DOESN'T REVIEW? THAT'S UP TO THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. SO SHOULD WE, UM, PREDICATE ANY APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD? NO, I WOULD, I WOULD. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S BEEN RAISED TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION IS PENDING BEFORE PLANNING BOARD. I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE PLANNING BOARD LEVEL. OKAY. EVEN IF THE, EVEN IF ARE WE, SO CAN YOU REVIEW FOR US, UM, GO AHEAD. WELL, I MEAN, SO IF THE EGRESS IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT THE FRONT AND IF THE SIDE EGRESS DOESN'T EXIST AND THAT CHANGE THE FRONT FACADE AND THAT CHANGES WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT JOHN'S ASKING. I WAS, I WAS GOING THERE. IT ALSO CHANGES THE INTERIOR LAYOUT. CORRECT. AND I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE ARE APPROVING THE INTERIOR LAYOUT OR IF WE'RE JUST APPROVING EXACTLY. WE'RE JUST APPROVING THAT FACADE. CORRECT. AND IF THERE IT DOES NEED TO BE ANOTHER, ANOTHER DOOR ON THAT FACADE TO THEN WE'LL BE, THEY MAY HAVE TO COME TO, WE'LL BE BACK. THEY MAY HAVE TO COME BACK IF THEY HAVE TO EXPAND THE OPENINGS ALONG THE FACADE. OKAY. WE DON'T IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SUFFICIENT SPACE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND ALONG THE, THE, UM, YEAH, YEAH, THE WEST SIDE. SO IT, YEAH. OKAY. WEST SIDE, THE WHOLE, UH, MIKE, PLEASE. YEAH. OKAY. JUST THE WEST SIDE IS AN ENTIRE WALL, RIGHT? THAT GOES TO, UH, VALERO GAS STATION. YES. SO, UM, EXCUSE ME, WHEN YOU DID YOUR LIFE SAFETY PLAN FOR THE BUILDING APARTMENT PERMIT APPLICATION, YOU THE TWO DOORS, THE TWO OPENINGS THAT GO TO 23RD STREET, THAT WAS ENOUGH TO EVACUATE YOUR CUSTOMERS. YOU MET THE, THE REQUIREMENTS CORRECT. THERE'S ENOUGH WIDTH ALONG 23RD, UH, TO SATISFY THAT NUMBER. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT AND SLIDING RIGHT INTO BOARD MEMBER COMMENT. ANY ANY COMMENTS ON THE, FROM THE BOARD? NO, NO COMMENTS ABOUT THE YES. COMMENT ABOUT THE EXTERIOR. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, RAY. YES? YES. UM, SO CAN, WOULD, UH, ANYBODY, UH, PROPOSE A MOTION TO APPROVE? NO. YES. NO. I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AS PER STAFF'S CONDITIONS. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. I ALL IN FAVOR? SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, UH, SIX TO ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST WE TAKE THE NEXT APPLICATION, THEN MAYBE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK, BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE SHOULD BE PRETTY SHORT. THIS IS FOR, UM, [8. HPB25-0661, 230 1st Street.] TWO 31ST STREET, HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 1. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE AFTER THE FACT INSTALLATION OF ARTISTIC MURAL, THE 1936 ART DECO BUILDING DESIGNED BY HENRY HOER. A LOT OF HO HAUSER BUILDINGS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. UM, WAS ORIGINALLY A TWO STORY APARTMENT STRUCTURE, LATER EXPANDED IN THE 1990S WITH ROOFTOP AND THREE STORY ADDITIONS. OVER THE YEARS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD APPROVED MULTIPLE RENOVATIONS, INCLUDING NEW CANOPIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS NOW SEEKING AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO RETAIN AN ARTISTIC GRAPHIC APPLIED TO THE CIRCULAR STAIR TOWER THAT WAS INSTALLED WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL. THE GRAPHIC WILL BE MODIFIED TO REMOVE COMMERCIAL REFERENCES. STAFF FINDS THAT THE ARTWORK LOCATED ON A LATER EDITION AND WELL SET BACK FROM THE STREET DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE BUILDING'S ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL SIGN AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING OUTDOOR DINING ENVIRONMENT. THEREFORE, STAFF IS NO OBJECTION TO THE APPROVING THE MOD, THE APPROVED MODIFIED GRAPHIC. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION. [02:55:01] GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF. NICHOLAS RODRIGUEZ, 200 SOUTH BISCAY BOULEVARD FROM THE LAW FIRM, DALE FERNANDEZ. LARKIN AND TAP, UH, AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, WE ARE, UH, AND IF WE COULD PLEASE CALL UP THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, PJ. UH, IF WE COULD, WE ARE REQUESTING AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE REALLY ARTISTIC GRAPHICS. BUT WHAT THEY ARE IS VINYL STICKERS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE INSIDE OF THESE THREE WINDOWS ON THE CENTRAL, UH, STAIR TOWER OF THE CONTRIBUTING HENRY HILL HAUSER BUILDING. UM, WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THROUGH A VERY LONG RENOVATION PROCESS, UH, THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW THEY NEEDED A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE ACTUAL ARTISTIC GRAPHIC. THEY HAD ONE FOR THE, THE RENOVATION, JUST THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY NEEDED A SEPARATE ONE. UH, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF FIRST STREET AND WASHINGTON AVENUE, A VERY PROMINENT LOCATION. AND THEY JUST COMPLETED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE BUILDING AND OPENED AS LA GRANDE CHERIE. UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, UH, DURING THAT PROCESS, WHICH TOOK VERY LONG, UH, AND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THE BUILDING WAS IN MUCH WORSE SHAPE THAN WHAT THEY INITIALLY BELIEVED WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT IN 2020. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME TO FINISHING TOUCHES AND DECORATING THE BUILDING AND THEY ADDED THESE THREE, UH, REALLY VINYL STICKERS, UM, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DO QUALIFY AS ARTISTIC GRAPHICS, UH, TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT THE, THE NEW OUTDOOR DINING TERRACE. UM, SO JUST REALLY QUICKLY ON, ON THE HISTORIC BACKGROUND HERE, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY AN APARTMENT BUILDING, UH, DEVELOPED BY HENRY HOER. UH, IN SOME, IN 1993, IT WAS FUSED WITH A ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE. AND THAT CENTRAL FEATURE, UH, KIND OF A ROTUNDA FEATURE WAS ADDED TO THE BUILDING. UH, IN 2008. IT WENT THROUGH KIND OF A LIGHT RESTORATION. UH, IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE FINANCIAL CRISIS, SO THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS A LOT OF THE MECHANICAL, STRUCTURAL ELECTRICAL STUFF. IT WAS REALLY MORE COSMETIC. UH, SO THE BUILDING FUNCTION DWELL BETWEEN 2008 AND 2020. UH, BUT IT WAS VACANT AT THE TIME THAT OUR CLIENT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. UH, AND IT WAS IN REALLY IN DIRE NEED OF, OF SOME SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS. SO FROM 2021, UH, THROUGH 2024 AND TO THE BEGINNING OF 2025, THEY DID A COMPLETE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE RENOVATION AND RESTORATION OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING. ALL, ALL SYSTEMS, STRUCTURAL, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE VERTICAL STAIR, UH, THE THREE WINDOWS IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND IMAGE THERE. UM, AND THEY REALLY JUST THOUGHT THAT ADDING AN ARTISTIC GRAPHIC, THERE WAS A COMPLIMENT, UM, TO THEIR INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR DESIGN. UH, AND DIDN'T MEAN TO, YOU KNOW, UH, CIRCUMVENT ANY PROCESS THAT THEY WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH. SO HERE'S A, A CLOSEUP OF THE GRAPHIC AGAIN, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM IN MORE DETAIL. UH, AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE LETTER B AND THE WORD CHERIE HAS A COMMERCIAL CONNOTATION TO IT, SO WE HAVE TO REMOVE THAT PORTION OF IT. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. SO WE HAVE THE STICKERS READY TO GO AND INSTALL AS SOON AS, UH, WE OBTAIN THIS APPROVAL. UM, THAT'S ALL WE'RE REALLY REQUESTING TODAY, IS AN AFTER THE FACT APPROVAL OF, OF THIS, UH, TO COMPLIMENT THE, THE HUGE RENOVATION AND REALLY SAVING OF THIS BUILDING THAT HAPPENED, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? NO. UH, YES. LINDSAY, CAN WE, CAN YOU SHOW AGAIN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT THE, IF YOU WILL, COMMERCIAL SIGN? THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY, UH, ASSUMING THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, ARE THERE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM? NO. NO, NO. NO. OKAY. AND, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ACTUALLY THINK, UH, RON BLOOMBERG, DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED FROM THE LAST APPLICATION? HE, HE LOWERED HIS HAND, SO NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. SO, UM, THERE IS NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? NOPE. JUST, UH, WE'RE HERE TO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. GREAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, SO CAN I HAVE EITHER COMMENT OR A, UM, A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? IF THERE'S NO COMMENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THANK YOU. A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. MITCH IS SECONDING IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AN EASY ONE FOR ONCE. YEAH. I THINK LUNCH IS HERE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A 20 MINUTE LUNCH BREAK? YEAH. OKAY. 20, UH, 15, 20 MINUTES. OKAY. OKAY. MICHAEL, WE'RE, WE JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEBBIE WOULD'VE ONLY GIVEN US TEN FIVE [03:00:01] AT MOST. SO I'M, YOU'RE GIVING US 20. I'M, I'M MORE GENEROUS WITH A LUNCH BREAK, SO YOU ARE REALLY GENEROUS. OKAY. IT'S YOUR FIRST DAYS, I KNOW YOU WON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IN A FEW MONTHS. 3, 2, 1. WELCOME BACK. [9. HPB25-0663, 336 Meridian Avenue.] WE HAVE, UM, ONE APPLICATION LEFT ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. THIS IS FOR, UM, 3 36 MERIDIAN AVENUE, HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 3. AN APPLICATION'S BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF ONE STRUCTURE, THE SUBSTANTIAL DEMOLITION OF ONE STRUCTURE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SETBACKS. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF AN HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1936 AND DESIGNED BY NOTED MIAMI BEACH ARCHITECT B KINGSTON HALL. THE PROJECT CALLS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF A NON HISTORIC REAR STRUCTURE ORIGINALLY ADDED IN 1948 BY AL AL K CLING BELL, AND A PRESERVATION OF THE PRIMARY FACADE IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH EXTERIOR WALLS OF THE CONTRIBUTING TWO STORY STRUCTURE RUNNING THE STREET. THE ARCHITECT HAS PROPOSED AN INNOVATIVE DESIGN STRATEGY THAT PRESERVES THE CHARACTER DEFINING STREET FACING ELEMENTS WHILE INTRODUCING A NEW ELEVATED RESIDENCE BEHIND AND WITHIN THE RETAINED WALLS. THE HISTORIC WALLS WILL SERVE AS AN EXTERIOR GARDEN ENCLOSURE SURROUNDING A CENTRAL OPEN AIR COURTYARD MAINTAINING THE ORIGINAL SPATIAL ORGANIZATION OF THE SITE. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION FEATURES A MODERN ARCHITECTURAL VOCABULARY WITH VERY MATERIALS LAYERED, PLANES ARTICULATION CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE WHILE ACHIEVING COMPLIANCE WITH UPDATED FLOODED ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS. STAFF FINDS A PROPOSAL TO BE CONTEXTUALLY SENSITIVE AND ACTUALLY COHESIVE STAFF'S PRINCIPLE CONCERN PERTAINS TO THE PROJECTED GLASS GLASS BLOCK BALCONY AND THE UPPER LEVEL WHICH EXTENDS 10 FEET STENT FEET BEYOND THE PRESERVED FACADE AND FEATURES. A MIRRORED UNDERSIDE IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED. THIS BALCONY MAY APPEAR VISUALLY OBTRUSIVE FROM THE STREET. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE BALCONY HEIGHT BE REDUCED BY APPROXIMATELY FOUR FEET AND USING A LIGHTLY REFLECTIVE OR MAT MATERIAL ON ITS UNDERSIDE TO SOFTEN ITS VISUAL IMPACT. THE APPLICANT'S ALSO REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR SETBACK FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 14 FEET TO FOUR FEET. UM, THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC FACADE AND COURTYARD WHILE ACCOMMODATING FLOOD OF COMPLIANT REDEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE FACADES DEEP FRONT SETBACK AND THE SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE COURTYARD, THE REMAINING DEVELOPABLE AREA IS CONSTRAINED. STAFF ALSO NOTES THAT THE PROPOSED HOME WOULD REMAIN APPROXIMATELY 1,500 SQUARE FEET SMALLER THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED FLOOR AREA FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY, AND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG MARINE COURT FEATURE SIMILAR REDUCED SETBACKS. THESE FACTORS, ALONG WITH THE SITE'S UNIQUE TOPOGRAPHIC AND FLOOD RELATED CHALLENGES CONSTITUTE SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT STAFF BELIEVES WEREN'T THE GRANTING OF VARIANCE. HOWEVER, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THE, UM, MINIMUM SETBACK SHOULD BE INCREASED AT FIVE FEET, WHICH IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITH SIMILAR CONDITIONS, UM, FACING AN ALLEY. WITH THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE REAR SETBACK WITH THE MODIFICATION TO A FIVE FOOT REAR SETBACK AND ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UM, TRAFFIC CONDITIONS APPROVAL AS NOTED IN OUR STAFF REPORT THAT TURNED OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION. GOOD AFTERNOON. MATT AMSTER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF BERK, HOWARD DEL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN AND TAPIS OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN MIAMI HERE TODAY, REPRESENTING KINDRED FRUIT PROPERTIES, LLC, UH, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, THE EFFECTIVE OWNERS ARE ACTUALLY HERE, TODD AND TIFFANY ENGEL, UH, AS WELL AS WE HAVE OUR TEAM, UH, RENEE GONZALEZ, KEVIN RETO, MANELA FORNO. UM, WE HAD A HANDOUT PASSED OUT TO YOU. THIS IS, UH, US ADDRESSING, UH, STAFF'S CONCERN ABOUT THE BALCONY WALL HEIGHT. WE'LL GO OVER THIS MORE THAT SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR BECAUSE I KNOW WE, UH, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR QUITE A WHILE AND PUT THAT INTO PACKETS THAT SHOULD HAVE, UH, BEEN DELIVERED TO YOU. UH, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU JUST HAD A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. UM, RENEE AND HIS TEAM HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH TODD AND TIFFANY ON THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, WE ARE IN A MULTIFAMILY AREA, BUT THEY ARE CHOOSING TO JUST HAVE ONE UNIT, ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, IN THIS AREA. UH, GREAT CARE WAS TAKEN TO EVALUATE THE EXISTING STRUCTURES. THERE IS A TWO STORY CONTRIBUTING, UH, STRUCTURE AT THE FRONT, UH, AND A ONE STORY NON-CLASSIFIED AND VERY MUCH NON-DESCRIPT, UH, STRUCTURE AT THE REAR. IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S ALSO THIS HISTORIC COURTYARD BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. UH, NOTABLY, BOTH STRUCTURES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY [03:05:01] BELOW TODAY'S FLOOD ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS AND THEREFORE EXTREMELY SUBJECT, UH, AND AT RISK, UH, IF ANY HABITABLE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE, UM, IN A FLOODING EVENT. WHILE THE OPTION WAS THERE TO SEEK AND HAD BEEN CONSIDERED TO SEEK FULL DEMOLITION, WE FELT THAT PRESERVING AND CREATING SOMETHING INNOVATIVE AND RESILIENT WAS THE APPROPRIATE APPROACH. AND WE'VE DEFINITELY WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF DEBBIE BEFORE SHE MOVED ON TO PLANNING BOARD AND MICHAEL SINCE, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. AND THAT, AS I MENTIONED, UH, HAS LED TO A, UH, AN AGREEMENT. WE ARE, UH, STAFF HAS A SUGGESTED A LOWERING OF THE BALCONY. THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, SOMETHING WE ARE ALREADY CONSIDERING. IT'S IN THE HANDOUT BEFORE YOU, BUT WE AGREE TO STAFF'S, UH, REDUCTION OF THAT WALL HEIGHT TO FOUR FEET. WE ALSO AGREE WITH STAFFED FOR THE REAR SETBACK TO, UM, INCREASE IT TO THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK. AND, UM, WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH STAFF'S REPORT, UH, AND ALL OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, THOSE, UH, IN FLORIDA CASE LAW DO CON CON CONSTITUTE SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE, AS DO ALL THE OTHER DOCUMENTS WE'VE SUBMITTED, INCLUDING OUR STRUCTURAL REPORT. AND, UM, STAFF, I'M SURE CAN VOUCH THAT THE PROVISIONS OF, UH, PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS HAVE BEEN MET TO NOTICE THIS APPLICATION. UH, AND ALSO WITH TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, ALL THAT WILL BE MET, UH, AND THE ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW THAT ARE APPLICABLE HERE. ARE YOU EVALUATING AND STAFF'S EVALUATION OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE AS CRITERIA FOR DEMOLITION AND DESIGN AND VARIANCE, UH, BOTH UNDER HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY. WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RENEE. WE DO HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION IF THAT COULD BE CALLED UP. OKAY. THANK YOU, MATT. UM, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FIRST, UH, DEBBIE AND THEN MICHAEL FOR WORKING US WITH US VERY CLOSELY. I THINK THAT, UM, I CONTINUE TO BE REMINDED HOW, UH, GREAT WE HAVE IT HERE IN MIAMI BEACH. AND I, UH, I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD AND, UM, KNOW, HAVE MET SOME OF YOU IN THE PROCESS, AND I RESPECT TREMENDOUSLY WHAT YOU DO AND AM GRATEFUL FOR BEING HERE. I AM ALSO GRATEFUL TO HAVE INCREDIBLE CLIENTS AND, AND INCREDIBLE PROJECTS THAT VERY TREMENDOUSLY, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS, UM, A, A, AN EXCEPTION IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S IN A DISH. WELL, IT'S NOT AN ADDITION. IT'S A NEW HOME TO, UH, I THINK OF IT ALMOST AS AN ADDITION BECAUSE I THINK THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS SO SIGNIFICANT AND REQUIRES, UH, SUCH A DELICATE ACT OF INTERVENTION, UH, THAT, THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK OF IT AND, AND SPEAK OF IT IN RELATION TO THAT, REALLY. SO I'LL TAKE YOU, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY, ALTHOUGH YOU'VE, UH, HAD A SHORT DAY. UH, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT ANY LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT I'LL, I'LL TAKE YOU QUICKLY THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. AND AS MATT SAID, ALTHOUGH WE AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT, I DO WANNA POINT OUT, UH, WHY WE MADE THE DECISIONS WE DID IN CONSIDERATION, UH, EH, SO THAT THE BOARD CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, AND CONSIDER, UH, THE PROJECT FULLY. SO, AS YOU KNOW, THIS SITS IN THE SOUTH OF FIFTH DISTRICT ON, ON MERIDIAN AVENUE. UH, MERIDIAN AVENUE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS 3D IS MADE UP OF, UH, PRIMARILY MULTI, UH, FAMILY UNITS. AND AS MATT MENTIONED, THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR ALLOWS FOR 16 UNITS INSTEAD. AGAIN, THE CITY'S FORTUNATE, I THINK, AND, AND I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE A CLIENT THAT WANTS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, WHICH IS QUITE UNIQUE. THIS IS, UH, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND, UH, YOU WILL SEE HOW WE'VE ADDRESSED THE, THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. AND IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THE, THE KEYHOLE HERE HAS BECOME SOMETHING OF, UH, A GENERATOR REALLY FOR AN, AN INSPIRATION FOR THE PROJECT. UH, AS, AS WAS MENTIONED, THE, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS WELL BELOW, UH, BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE OUR NEW FIRST FLOOR WILL BE IS AT THE 18 FOOT HEIGHT. THE VERY TOP LINE YOU SEE ON THIS DRAWING, UH, WE CAN BE NGVD IS THE BLUE LINE. UH, THAT'S THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIRED, UH, UH, ELEVATION FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE TO BE AT. AND SO AS A RESPONSE TO, UH, SEA LEVEL [03:10:01] RISE AS A RESPONSE TO WHERE BFE NEEDS TO BE, UH, WE DECIDED TO TAKE THE APPROACH THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THIS HISTORIC FACADE, UH, BECOME ESSENTIALLY A, A WALL TO A GARDEN AND, AND STEP THE PROJECT BACK CONSIDERABLY AND AWAY FROM IT. SO TO GIVE IT, UH, A WAY TO BREATHE AND, AND FLOAT ABOVE IT, UH, AND NOT TOUCH IT IN, IN, IN, IN AN ATTEMPT TO BE AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE. UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS LIST ARE ESSENTIALLY, UH, LET'S SAY BENEFITS THAT, THAT WE HAVE. UH, I MENTIONED ALREADY THAT, UH, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S BEING PROPOSED VERSUS SOMETHING THAT COULD REQUIRE AS MANY AS 24 PARKING SPACES. UM, WE ARE USING THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE AS A GENERATOR, UH, FOR THE PROJECT. UH, WE ARE ELEVATING THE NEW PROJECT AS A WAY TO RESPOND TO THE REALITY OF, OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, WORLD. AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT I'LL SPEAK OF, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN I SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DRAWINGS THAT HAVE TO DO, UH, WITH THE VARIANCE, IS THIS ISSUE OF THE GARDEN COURTYARD, WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS WELL. HERE YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL, UM, PROPOSAL, UH, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS A GLASS BLOCK VOLUME THAT FLOATS OVER THE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURE. AND, UH, IT IS, UH, FURTHER, UM, FELT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FURTHER, UM, MADE TO FEEL LIKE IT'S FLOATING BY HAVING THE UNDERSIDE OF THAT, UH, VOLUME TO BE REFLECTIVE. THIS, UH, WHICH WE ARE, UH, LABELING AS A REVISED DESIGN IS A DESIGN THAT IS THREE FOOT SIX INCHES LOWER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. STAFF IS ASKING THAT IT BE FOREFOOT. I'LL JUST SIMPLY, UH, SAY THAT THE REASON IT WAS THREE FOOT SIX IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE TOP OF THE FACADE AND THE, THE FLOOR OF THE ROOF TERRACE. IN OTHER WORDS, A RAILING IS THREE FOOT SIX, AND WE WERE BRINGING IT DOWN BY THE HEIGHT OF THE RAILING. BUT IF, IF BOARD FEELS THAT, UH, SO WE, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT THREE FOOT SIX, IT'S SIX INCHES. SO OBVIOUSLY, AND NOT, UH, NOT SIGNIFICANT, EH, SO WE, WE, WE, WE ACCEPT A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAD A THREE FOOT SIX LOWER. AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT. AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THESE DRAWING, THESE ARE RENDERINGS ARE NOT SHOWING ALL OF THE EXISTING, UH, TREES. THE, THIS AREA OF MERIDIAN IS, HAS VERY MANY LARGE TREES AND LOTS OF FOLIAGE. THERE'S A PICTURE, I THINK A FEW PAGES LATER THAT SHOWS YOU, THERE WE GO. SO YEAH, WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO EMPHASIZE THE CHANGE IN THE BALCONY WALL AND THE, THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF, UM, THERE'S A, A LOT OF EXISTING FOLIAGE THAT, UM, RIGHT, WILL SCREEN AND AND BUFFER THIS NEW ADDITION. RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE GROUND LEVEL, THE GROUND LEVEL, THIS IS AN ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH. YEAH. THE GROUND LEVEL PRESERVED BUILDING WILL REMAIN THE FOCAL POINT. GO AHEAD. IS THAT SOMETIMES, SO HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE? OH, SO SORRY. OH MY GOSH. UM, I'LL, I'LL SPEED UP. I DON'T KNOW. GIVE ME WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE ME , UH, FIVE MINUTES AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. FIVE MINUTES IS PLENTY. YES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. I DIDN'T REALIZE. IT'S, UH, OKAY. SO, UM, THIS IS THE, THE ENTRY POINT. UH, GOING THROUGH THE PORTAL, YOU SEE THAT THE MAIN STAIR OF THE HOUSE HAS, UH, UH, AND THE ARTIST JAMES TERRELL, LIKE QUALITY THAT, UH, REALLY IS INSPIRED BY THE PORTAL. THIS IS THIS MAGICAL COURTYARD THAT YOU WALK THROUGH, IF, IF, UM, IF YOU'RE COMING INSIDE THE HOME. UH, AND ONCE AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO REALLY, UH, STEP BACK THE HOME FROM THE EXISTING, EH, FACADE, FROM THE HISTORIC FACADE. UH, HERE YOU SEE AN ELEVATION, THE EXISTING PHOTOGRAPH, UH, SIDE ELEVATION. YOU START TO SEE HERE, EH, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE AND WHERE THE BUILDING AREA IS. AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT HOW FAR BACK WE'RE STEPPING IT BACK, BUT THIS IS THE COURTYARD. AND I THINK, UH, SPEAKING, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, UH, OWNERS HERE, UH, THAT WILL LIKELY SPEAK THAT LIVE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. [03:15:01] UM, I THINK WE REACHED OUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THEM DIRECTLY. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY REALIZE THE EFFORT WE'VE MADE, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS, UH, THE LANDSCAPE THAT EXISTS AND MAINTAIN THAT KIND OF LANDSCAPE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH A COURTYARD, UH, THAT WE, THAT THAT IS ALSO THE REASON WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE. SO I'LL GO THROUGH THESE, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY. THESE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS. ESSENTIALLY, THE GROUND LEVEL IS, IS, UM, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL GARDEN. UH, HERE YOU SEE THE QUALITIES OF THAT GARDEN, AND THEN AS YOU GO UP, YOU HAVE, UH, LIVING SPACES, UH, GUEST BEDROOMS. UH, ESSENTIALLY THE, THE, THE HOME TOWARDS THE STREET IS A SERIES OF, UH, BEDROOMS. AND, UH, TOWARDS THE BACKSIDE OF THE HOUSE IS MORE OF THE LIVING SPACES. UH, THIS IS THE TOP FLOOR, WHICH ESSENTIALLY BECOMES THE MAIN LIVING FLOOR FOR MY CLIENTS. AND THE ROOF TERRACE, THE MATERIAL THAT WE'VE, UH, DECIDED TO USE, UH, FOR THE VOLUME THAT FLOATS OVER THE HISTORIC HOME IS GLASS BLOCK. I THINK THAT IS, UM, UH, AN INTERESTING CHOICE FOR ME BECAUSE I, I, I LIKE TO WORK WITH MATERIALS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF THE PLACE. AND, UH, I HAVE LIVED HERE IN MIAMI BEACH NOW FOR OVER 30 YEARS, I THINK, AND SOMEHOW I ASSOCIATE GLASS BLOCK VERY MUCH TO, TO DECO. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF BUILDINGS HERE AND, AND INTERNATIONALLY THAT USE GLASS BLOCK. AND, UH, AND I THINK, UH, IT'S, IT'S, I I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, THE RESULT IS USING THE GLASS BLOCK IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY. UH, THE MATERIAL ON THE UNDERSIDE OF, UH, THIS ELEMENT, WHICH IS IN THE DRAWING HERE IN YELLOW, IS MEANT TO BE A REFLECTIVE SURFACE. NOW, STAFF HAS SUGGESTED THAT IT BE SOMEWHAT MUTED, THAT IT BE LIKE AN ETCHED, UH, MIRROR, AND WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THE SAMPLE THAT WE HAVE IS THE MIRROR, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, BUT WE ARE FINE, UH, IN WHATEVER THE BOARD, UH, RE REQUESTS THAT WE DO. THE VARIANCE DRAWINGS, UH, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT HERE. AND, AND THIS IS A DRAWING THAT SHOWS, UH, HOW MANY OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE ENCROACHING ON THE SETBACK, INCLUDING THE BUILDING DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. UH, AND HOW MANY OF THEM, UH, HOW MANY OF THEM NEARLY 50% HAVE, UH, AN ENCROACHMENT SIMILAR OR, OR THE SAME AS WE ARE REQUESTING? UM, HERE YOU SEE A PLAN DRAWING AND THE HARDSHIP ON WHY WE, WE ARE REQUESTING THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BEING SENSITIVE, I BELIEVE IN PUSHING THE BUILDING BACK AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. AND AS A RESULT, UH, WE, WE NEED THAT EXTRA SPACE TOWARDS THE BACK. UH, HERE YOU SEE IT IN SECTION AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING BACK 23 FEET, FIVE INCHES, UH, WITH THE FIRST THREE LEVELS OF THE PROJECT. UH, AND WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING 10 FOOT BACK AGAIN. WE'RE FINE WITH MICHAEL'S, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE NINE FEET INSTEAD OF 10. I THINK WE'VE GOT 20, 22 SECONDS. YEAH, WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE MAYBE THREE MORE MINUTES. WE APPRECIATE, SO WHEN THIS, WHEN THIS COMES UP, CAN YOU JUST ADD THREE, THREE MINUTES? SO THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT BEFORE RENEE CONTINUES, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AWARE, I KNOW I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU DID RECEIVE, UH, LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, AND THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, IMPACTS TO THEIR VIEWS, UH, AT, AT THE REQUESTED VARIANCE AT THE, AT THE REAR, AT THE ALLEY, UH, WILL PROVIDE, UH, WE'LL PROVIDE, I I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO RIGHT TO A VIEW ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTIES, UH, WELL ESTABLISHED IN FLORIDA CASE LAW. UH, NO, UH, AIR AND LIGHT ALSO ALLOWED, AND THAT, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THAT IS THE LAW, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THIS ENTIRE PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, INTERNALLY FOCUSED, UH, RENEE AND, UH, TODD AND TIFFANY HAVE BEEN AWARE OF, ARE VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S AROUND US, AND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKED INTO THE DESIGN. GO AHEAD, RENEE. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT, LOOK, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON? IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ON, MAYBE. YEAH. OKAY. UH, SORRY. I THINK THAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? AND I, AND I THINK THAT THE APPROACH WE TOOK FROM THE BEGINNING, ALTHOUGH THEY, I DON'T KNOW, TO WHAT DEGREE [03:20:01] THEY'RE AWARE THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, IS, UH, WE ARE REALLY WANTING TO MAINTAIN THE COURTYARD QUALITY THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY. AND YOU SEE THIS DRAWING HERE, I THINK IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CODE REQUIREMENT FOR HOMES THAT YOU NOT HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT GOES FROM THE FRONT SET BACK ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK WITHOUT STEPPING BACK. I WISH I HAD A POINT OR SO, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU CAN USE THE, UM, THE CURSOR ON THE, OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. SO, SO LIKE, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE CODE FOR THIS SITE, WE COULD BUILD A MASS HERE WITH A SPACES, AND INSTEAD WE'VE DECIDED TO MAINTAIN THE COURTYARD, NOT ONLY FOR OUR CLIENTS' ENTERTAINMENT, BUT ALSO YOU CAN SEE, UH, HERE, UH, WHERE THE MAIN BALCONIES OF THIS BUILDING NEXT DOOR IS, WHICH COINCIDE PRECISELY WHERE WE HAVE POSITIONED THE COURTYARD. UH, ALSO, AS I WAS SAYING, I THINK THAT, UH, THE CITY'S, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME CODE, WHICH REQUIRES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU STEP BACK AN ELEVATION AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET IS WRITTEN FOR A REASON. AND I, AND I THOUGHT BACK AT THAT WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS, ALTHOUGH IT DID NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO THIS SITE. UH, HERE YOU SEE, UH, THE EXISTING COURTYARD, UH, WE CALL IT THE HISTORIC COURTYARD. AND YOU SEE THE NEW COURTYARD, YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL IN SIZE. UH, ACTUALLY WERE SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN, THAN THE HISTORIC, UH, AND, UH, AND, UH, PRECEDENTS OR, OR, UH, COURTYARDS THAT EXIST THROUGHOUT, UH, I GUESS WE CUT SHORT, BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER IN YOUR PACKAGE. YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PAGES THAT SHOW A COURTYARDS, AND, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW VALUABLE AND, AND WONDERFUL IT MAKES THESE EXPERIENCES. SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU. I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO TAKE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS. UH, WE, YEAH. JUST TO QUICKLY CONCLUDE, UH, YOU KNOW, I CAN HOPEFULLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT THIS IS A PURPOSELY BOLD AND A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE FRONT HISTORIC STRUCTURE, KEEP IT THE FOCAL POINT, MAKE IT SURE THAT IT SHINES, UH, AND ONLY PROVIDE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS PROPERTY. WE'RE MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC STREET PRESENCE OF THAT BUILDING, THE HISTORIC COURTYARD BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS AND, AND MATCHING THE CONTEXT, UH, OF THE ALLEY WITH OUR SETBACK. WE AGREE WITH ALL OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS, LIKE WE SAID, INCLUDING THE, UH, ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF THE BALCONY WALL, IF SHE, YOU SO CHOOSE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL FOOT, UH, FOR THE REAR SETBACK, THE LESS REFLECTIVE MATERIAL UNDER, UH, THE NEW BUILDING. AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, RANDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, TO, UH, ONE, ONE QUESTION IS THAT, UM, THE VIEW INTO THE KEYHOLE TO THE COURTYARD IS VERY TRANSPARENT, VERY INVITING. I ASSUME THOUGH YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME SECURITY. HOW IS THAT WORKING? 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE INSIDE OR THE OUTSIDE THAT SAYS GATES. YEAH, NO, WE, THE WHOLE EFFECT, WE WILL HAVE A FENCE, UH, FENCE AT THE, AT THE SIDEWALK. UH, OH, THERE WILL BE A FENCE. UH, LET ME SHOW YOU. WELL, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY IT HERE, UH, HERE YOU SEE IT. SORRY, HERE WE GO. WHERE'S THE, IT'S ON YOUR RENDERING. IT'S ON THIS RENDERING, YEAH. AND IT'S HERE AS WELL. UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE I HAVE THE CURSOR NOW, SO THERE WOULD BE A FENCE, BUT YES, IT IS FAIRLY TRANSPARENT. AND I THINK THE IDEA IS, BUT EVEN THE, EVEN THE RENDERING SHOWS, I DON'T SEE A GATE. I SEE. NO, THE RE THE RENDERING MAY HAVE, UH, SORT OF TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF NOT HAVING THE GATE POSITIONED IN THE CLOSED, UH, POSITION SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE HISTORIC KEYHOLE. BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HERE IN THE FLOOR PLAN, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S LABELED. YEP. SO THEY SWING GATES OR SLIDING GATES. IT'S A SLID IT'S SLIDING GATE AT THE SIDEWALK HERE. I GET, I, MY FEELING IS THAT THE STREET LEVEL OR THE STREET IS VERY IMPORTANT. MIAMI BEACH FOR ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL. AND TO ME, THE ADDITION SAYS I DON'T WANT TO BE THE STREET OUT THERE. I'M GONNA PUT A WALL UP IN FRONT OF MY BEDROOMS. I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I DON'T UNDERSTAND BLOCKING OFF THE STREET FROM THE HOUSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A NEW ADDITION. IT SEEMS TO BE TOTALLY CONTRARY TO WHAT GOOD URBAN DESIGN WOULD SAY ABOUT AN URBAN AREA. YOU WANNA SEE, I MEAN, YOU CAN STILL PROVIDE ALL THE PRIVACY YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU BUILT, YOU EVEN CALL IT A WALL. I WOULD CALL IT A 10 FOOT HAND RAILING. BUT IT'S, IT'S A WALL. IT'S A, IT'S A TRANCE. IT, THE WALL WOULD BE MADE OUT OF GLASS BLOCK. SO IT'S, IT HAS, [03:25:01] UH, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S CLEAR IN THE RENDERINGS, GLASS BLOCK IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A WALL. I MEAN, WELL, IT'S, IT'S A WALL. IT'S, IT'S TRANS TRANSLUCENT. WE CAN ALSO USE A CLEAR GLASS BLOCK IN THAT INSTANCE. UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY THE OPPOSITE, TO BE HONEST. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY, WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MUCH TRANSPARENCY IN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT NO STREET IS NOT TRANSPARENT AT ALL. IT'S, YOU'VE, YOU'VE, YOU'RE FACING A STREET, BUT YOU'RE NOT FACING A STREET. IT COULD HAVE BEEN FACING THE ALLEY AND YOU WOULD'VE GOT THE SAME EFFECT. ARE WE SPEAKING ABOUT THE, THE WALL ON THE SIDEWALK? THE, THE, THE SORT OF THE WALL ON THE BUILT ON THE FENCE, LET'S CALL IT THE FENCE. YEAH, NO, THE, THE WALL ON THE NEW ADDITION THAT YOU CALL A WALL IN FRONT OF THE BEDROOMS. YEAH. OH, I SEE THE HANGS WAY OVER THE BUILDING. OKAY. ONE THAT YOU'RE SAYING, THEY SAID THAT STAFF, WHICH I DON'T AGREE, SHOULD LOWER THREE FEET. TO ME, IT SHOULD BE LOWER 10 FEET. I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WELL, THAT MASS, EVEN IN PROPORTION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING, IT'S AS BIG AS THE MASS OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS COMPLETELY OVERWHELMING. THE BUILDING TO A POINT. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S GLASS OR NOT, IT'S JUST SCALE WISE, THAT FACADE IS ALMOST AS BIG AS THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT FACADE. OKAY. RANDY, LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST STEP IN HERE 'CAUSE THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO I, I, I, YOU MADE A POINT. UM, OKAY, SORRY. BUT MAYBE IF YOU CAN EITHER FRAME IT AS A QUESTION OR I'M FINISHED MY QUESTION. OKAY. YOU FINISHED YOUR QUESTIONS. OKAY. IT'S A WALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, , BECAUSE, SORRY, I'M HOPING FOR, THIS IS FOR CLARIFICATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE AND YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU FEEL. SO, RAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT? UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST HAVE MY COMMENTS, NOT QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. PLEASE, PLEASE. UM, V ONE THAT BALCONY, THAT PROJECTION THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE BALCONY THAT EXTENDS INTO THE FIVE FOOT FRONT SETBACK, CORRECT? NO, THAT'S WITHIN OUR SETBACK. THAT'S, THAT'S WITHIN THE SETBACK. SO IT DOESN'T SHOW THE HORIZONTAL BALCONY ON THAT V ONE HERE. LET'S, LET'S GO THIS. THERE'S, UH, AN INCLINED, UH, PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE. I THINK YOU MISSED IT, RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, SO HERE YOU SEE WHERE THE FRONT SETBACK LINE IS, UH, WHICH IS, IS HERE. THIS IS THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK LINE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE WITHIN THAT SETBACK. BUT YOU'RE, SO, IT, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE RENDERING THEN? IT IS, IT IS NOT. I WOULD SUGGEST IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN INCLINED PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE. IF I LOOK AT THE RENDERING, SEE THIS, UH, ON THE MIC, THERE'S A MIC, MIC, MIC. CAN YOU TURN IT ON FOR HIM? THAT LINE RIGHT THERE? JUST, YEAH, JUST THE MIC RIGHT NOW. SO THAT, THAT LINE RIGHT THERE. THERE YOU GO. THIS, RIGHT? SO, SO THIS, THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THE FRONT FACADE SITS, AND THIS IS WITHIN OUR SETBACK, BUT IT IS FIVE FOOT FURTHER. SO IT EXTENDS TO THAT FIVE FOOT FRONT SETBACK. CORRECT. WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THIS SECTION. NO, IT IS TOGETHER. IT SHOULD BE. I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHICH SECTION YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IT SHOULD BE, UH, SHOWN ON THE SECTION. JUST CAN YOU TELL 'EM THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF THE SECTION, WHAT SECTION? SO WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT ONE THAT YOU HAD UP, IT'S THE ONE YOU HAD UP. YEAH, WITH THE YELLOW, I MEAN, I GUESS TO TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IN THE, IN THE SIMPLEST MANNER, UH, THE, THAT, UH, FRONT FACADE IS WITHIN THE FRONT SETBACK. CAN YOU PUT THE DRAWING BACK UP? THE SECTIONAL DRAWING? YEAH, THAT ONE. THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, IT'S NOT THERE. SO THAT ELEMENT IS RIGHT HERE. IT'S THE YELLOW, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT WITHIN THE YELLOW SECTION HERE. THAT ELEMENT IS RIGHT HERE. A SEVEN. YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS RHETORIC ON THIS. OH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M SORRY. YES, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT IT'S NOT CLEARLY A DRAWN, SO, SO IT'S BEYOND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. IT'S, IT'S BEYOND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. IT'S BEYOND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO THE TUNE OF 10 AND 10, ALMOST 10 AND A HALF FEET. UH, FIVE, WHAT IS IT? FIVE FEET? FIVE FEET. FIVE FEET, I'M SORRY. UH, NO, 10, 10 AND HALF, 10 FEET. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 10 FEET, YES. 10 FEET HERE YOU SEE IT. 10 FOOT FIVE INCHES, CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. IT'S FOOT FIVE INCHES IN FRONT OF THE, A HISTORIC FACADE AND WITHIN THE SETBACK, BUT IT, BUT I, I'LL ALSO, UH, MENTION THAT IT'S NOT ENCLOSED AREA, IT'S JUST THE BALCONY, RIGHT. WITH A HE BLACK WALL. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU HAVE THIS LARGE, ESSENTIALLY WALL, FIVE FEET, RIGHT. STANDING BEYOND. OKAY. OKAY. [03:30:01] AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS THE FOUR FOOT SETBACK. I REALIZE THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER BUILDINGS. WHY DO YOU NEED THAT 10? WHY DO YOU NEED TO ENCROACH INTO THAT SETBACK? WELL, I THINK THIS DRAWING SHOWS IT A CLEAREST BECAUSE WE'RE PUSHING BACK SO FAR FROM THE FRONT, WE'RE PUSHING BACK ESSENTIALLY, UH, 25 FEET, FIVE INCHES FOR MOST OF THE FRONT OF OUR NEW STRUCTURE. AND AS A RESULT, AND BECAUSE WE ALSO WANNA MAINTAIN THE COURTYARD AS A RESULT, UH, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE BE ABLE TO PUSH BACK IN THE BACK, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE AS WELL. I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MITCH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH. THE, UH, FENESTRATION OF THE PRIMARY FACADE ON THE, UH, EXISTING STRUCTURE, DID YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING GLASS BLOCK IN THOSE, UH, OPENINGS? YES. YES. OKAY. I, I, MY PREFERENCE IS SOMETHING, UH, TO REPLICATE WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY, WHETHER IT BE CASEMENT OR SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK, UH, BRINGING TOO MUCH, UH, OF YOUR DESIGN, UH, INTO THE PUBLIC, UH, REALM OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I UNDERSTAND, AND I, I'LL JUST SIMPLY SAY THAT I THINK AS, UH, AS AN ARCHITECT THAT LOVES THIS CITY, I THINK I ALSO RECOGNIZE, UM, ITS STRENGTHS AND ITS WEAKNESSES. AND I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT, UM, IN A MANNER THAT WAS QUITE SIMPLE AND, AND USING, UH, WINDOWS THAT WERE QUITE INEXPENSIVE AND, AND ORDINARY. AND SO I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO STEP, STEP UP THE QUALITY AND THE SORT OF FINISH OF THOSE OPENINGS. WELL, YOU, YOU COULD STILL DO THAT WITH GLAZING. UM, JUST, UH, I, I GUESS HERE, HERE YOU SEE THE, THE EXISTING CONDITION, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY AING WINDOWS, LIKE, YOU KNOW YEAH. INEXPENSIVE ON, WELL, THAT'S, UH, LIKELY NOT THE ORIGINAL CONDITION. SIMILAR. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY QUESTION, I THINK IT'S MORE FOR ONE OF YOU. I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER. SO RE RENEE MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT HAVE SIMILAR ENCROACHES AND MY, I WAS WONDERING IF THOSE ENCROACHES, THEY ARE COMPARED WITH CURRENT BUILDINGS ON REGULATIONS OR THEY, OR WHEN THE, AT THE TIME THEY WERE BUILT, THAT'S WHAT WAS ALLOWED. WELL, TYPICALLY FOR OLDER BUILDINGS, THE SETBACKS, THE REQUIRED SETBACKS ARE MUCH REDUCED. MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE REDUCED SETBACKS ALONG THE ALLEY. UM, AND THAT'S WHY WHEN, ESPECIALLY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD HAS ANALYZED VARIANCES IN THE PAST FOR THIS AREA AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, THEY DON'T JUST LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT IS THE REQUIRED, UM, SETBACK? WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE, OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT DOES THAT SHOW IS, UM, WHAT'S ESTABLISHED FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? AND IS THAT A REASON FOR GRANTING THE VARIANCE IF THIS WAS BRAND NEW? 'CAUSE IF THIS WAS NOT IN THE, IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE ELSE IN THE CITY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LIKELY NOT GONNA SEE SUPPORT FROM STAFF OR THE DESIGN VIEW BOARD IN SUPPORTING, UM, REAR SETBACK BURNS SUCH AS THIS. WE DO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE, OF THE ALLEY IN THIS CASE. AND IT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WOULD NOT BE INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR THAT, FOR THAT SETBACK. YES. AND, AND, UH, I THINK ELLE ALSO MENTIONED THAT INSTEAD OF THE 10, YOU HAVE SUGGESTED NINE, AND IT WAS TYPICALLY WHERE ARE THE ONE, WHERE'S THE MAGIC NUMBER? 'CAUSE IN, SO TYPICALLY EVEN IN COMMERCIAL, LET'S SAY IN THE, IN, IN CASES WHERE THE CODE DOES ALLOW REDUCED SETBACKS IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, THAT SETBACK IS USUALLY FIVE FEET. SO WE FIGURE EVEN IN THE MOST EXTREME CASES, THERE'S NO INSTANCE WHERE A LESS THAN FIVE FOOT IS ALLOWED FOR THE REAR SETBACK. SO WE FELT THAT HAVING A FIVE FOOT SETBACK WAS MORE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS FOR OTHER VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR REAR SETBACKS. I CAN'T THINK OF A, A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AT LESS THAN FIVE FEET. SO THAT'S WHY I RECOMMENDED THAT. ALSO, THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK IS EVENTUALLY OVER TIME WE KNOW THAT THE STREETS IN ALLEYWAYS WILL, WILL BE ELEVATED AND AT SOME POINT THEY WILL LOSE ACCESS TO THIS GARAGE. IT MAY BE 50 YEARS OR 75 YEARS, BUT THE FURTHER, THE FURTHER RESET, THE FURTHER SETBACK YOU HAVE FROM THE ALLEY FOR THE GARAGE ALLOWS MORE ADAPTABILITY TO SLOPE UP TO THAT, TO THAT LEVEL. SO IT DOES GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THANK YOU, LINDSAY. SO YOU WERE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE, [03:35:01] UM, THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BALCONY, YOU MENTIONED IT WAS, I THINK IN CONTEXT OF THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ELSEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? UM, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY. UH, IN RELATION TO, YOU MEAN TO THE FRONT CONSISTENT? OH, I MEAN IN, IN IN THE MATERIALITY YOU MEAN? YES. I'M NOT SURE. YOU JUST SAID IT WAS CONSISTENT PROBABLY SO THAT IT YES. IN, IN RELATION TO, TO U THE USE OF GLASS BLOCK. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UM, HAS ANY CONSIDERATION, SO I MEAN, SO I HAPPEN TO LIVE ON MERIDIAN, NOT IN THIS BLOCK, ALTHOUGH I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. UM, HAS ANY CONSIDERATION BEEN GIVEN TO THE IMPACT, UM, ON THE, UM, FOLIAGE THAT, THAT EXISTS THERE CONSIDERING, I MEAN, BECAUSE IN THAT DRAWING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EARLIER WITH THE YELLOW THAT WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE IT IS. UM, AND YOU, YOU HAVE FREELY SAID THAT IT'S NOT REPRESENTING THE TREES, THE TREES AREN'T REPRESENTED ON THAT DRAWING OR ON MANY OF THESE, BUT I MEAN, THOSE TREES DO EXTEND, AND I MEAN, TYPICALLY, I MEAN, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FURTHER DOWN THE STREET, LIKE IT EXTENDS UP AND OVER BALCONIES AND ROOFTOPS AND ET CETERA. SO WHAT'S THE CONSIDERATION WITH HAVING KIND OF A WALL THERE AND THE IMPACT ON, UM, THESE, THESE BEAUTIFUL CALON TREES THAT WE HAVE LINING, UM, MERIDIAN AVENUE? I'M, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. RIGHT. AND SO I WANNA TALK, I WANNA, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED INTO REGARDING THAT AND WHAT KIND OF, UM, CONSIDERATIONS YOU'VE MADE FOR THAT. SURE. I THINK, UH, THE, THE INTENTION IS TO STAY WELL WITHIN THE SETBACK OF, OF THE BUILDING. IN OTHER WORDS, WITHIN OUR BUILDABLE AREA. UH, I ASSUME IF, IF THERE IS A STREET TREE, WHICH IS I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT HAS A BRANCH THAT IS COMING INTO THE BUILDABLE AREA, THEN IT MAY NEED TO BE, UH, CUT BACK. BUT I THINK THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, OUR APPROACH IN GENERAL IS TO LOVE AND KEEP, UH, THE VEGETATION THAT'S THERE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE CA THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL CAPE OAK TREE ON THE SITE THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN. AND ANY MATURE, UH, TREES, THERE'S, UH, ALSO, UH, SOME TREES HERE, WHICH YOU SEE, UH, HELP THE SITUATION WITH THE NEIGHBOR TOWARDS THE NORTH, THESE, UH, PALM TREES. AND, AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE AS, AS LONG AS, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO. UH, AND THAT SHOULD ALL BE REFLECTED IN YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN. BUT I, I GUESS THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS WE, WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE AND, AND MAINTAIN, UH, ALL OF THE MATURE EXISTING VEGETATION THAT IS THERE. OKAY. SEEING NO MORE, RAY, YOU, YOUR MIC IS ON. ARE YOU ASKING A QUESTION? NOPE. ARE YOU OKAY? ALRIGHT. UH, SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS, UH, ARE THERE ANY, UM, BOARD DISCLOSURES? DID ANYBODY NO. ANYTHING DIS JUST, UH, I, LIKE ALL OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM NEIGHBOR AND I HAVE ALSO A PHONE CALL. YEP. OKAY. AND ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, I THINK WE'LL, UM, OPEN IT TO THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING. SO, SO NOBODY, NOBODY HAS THEIR HAND RAISED ON LINE, SO WE CAN JUST PROCEED TO, UM, TO IN CHAMBERS COMMENT. PERFECT. OKAY. HELLO, DEAR. MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PARTY. CAN, CAN YOU START BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF? YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? MY NAME IS JENNIFER KAISER. I WAS BORN HERE IN MIAMI BEACH, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF 3 44 MERIDIAN AVENUE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. WE ARE THE NEIGHBORS. UM, IN HERE TODAY ARE FIVE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES, FIVE OTHER UNIT OWNERS OR REPRESENTATIVES. ALL OF US HAVE THE BALCONIES THAT FACE SOUTH, WHICH IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THIS. UM, I'M GONNA NEED 10 MINUTES. IS THAT OKAY? AND I'LL MAKE IT, I CAN PROBABLY GO FASTER THAN 10 MINUTES, BUT I PREPARED IF THIS IS IN TWO SECTIONS, THIS IS TWO ADDRESS, TWO PORTIONS OF THEIR, UH, REQUEST. I JUST NEED TO KNOW, UM, BECAUSE YOU, IS EVERYBODY GOING TO, EVERYBODY GONNA SPEAK OR ARE YOU SPEAKING IN FRONT FOR FIVE OF YOU? ALL FIVE OF YOU? UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANNA ADD SOMETHING THEN YOU, IF IT'S NOT, THEN IT, I, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU EACH 10 MINUTES, SO NO, NOT, WE'RE NOT EACH GOING TO NEED 10 MINUTES. I'M DEFINITELY, BUT EACH WOULD BE GIVEN 10 MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY FAIR WAY TO, THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO IT IF THE OH, I UNDERSTAND. SO, OKAY. THEY WANT ME TO SPEAK FOR THEM. I, I WAS ASKING IF THEY CAN CDE TIME, IF THEY CAN CDE THEIR TIME TOO. WE CAN GIVE YOU A 10 MINUTE BLOCK. [03:40:02] I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I MIGHT NOT EVEN NEED THE WHOLE 10 MINUTES. I CAN GO THROUGH IT. WHY DON'T WE GIVE, I THINK I, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU, I THINK YOU CAN USE YOUR DISCRETION. I WILL. OKAY. TO, TO, TO GRANT MS. KAISER THE, UM, ADDITIONAL TIME SHE'S GONNA BE REPRESENT, UH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF, OF, OF OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE BUILDING. IF OTHERS WANT TO ADD AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE THOSE REQUESTS. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT WHERE EVERYBODY GETS THE, I MEAN, I JUST KNOW. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY, PERFECT. THEN WE'LL START WITH YOU AND, UH, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR 10 MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . I PREPARED THIS TO TRY, TRY TO STREAMLINE IT. AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR READING ALL OF OUR LETTERS AND THE PHONE CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS HERE. SO, UM, IN, IN THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, UM, IT SAYS THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF ONE STRUCTURE. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE BACK HOUSE, UM, THE SUBSTANTIAL DEMOLITION OF ONE STRUCTURE. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE HISTORIC DEXTER MULTIFAMILY BUILDING THAT SITS AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WOULD REPLACE THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE BACK HOUSE AND THEN A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SETBACK. SO THERE'S NO REAL MENTION IN HERE OF THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SUBSTANTIAL DEMOLITION TO THE ACTUAL DEXTER, THE HISTORIC DEXTER BUILDING ITSELF. UM, YET THE REQUEST FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS FOR ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS. SO THAT WAS VERY CONFUSING TO US. UM, THE NOTICE ITSELF WAS CONFUSING, BUT MOVING PAST THE CONFUSION, NOW WE KNOW THAT THIS MEETING IS TO DISCUSS GRANTING THE PERMISSION TO DESTROY THE MAJORITY OF THE HISTORIC ART DECO MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, THE DEXTER, AND FOR THE PERMISSION TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM SETBACK SPECIFIC TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE THAT WOULD REPLACE THE BACK HOUSE. BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO THIS HONORABLE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD BY MULTIPLE LETTERS THAT WE WOULD EXPERIENCE HARDSHIP, THAT THE REQUEST VARIANCE TO MINIMIZE THE REAR SETBACK TO IS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR A TWO CAR GARAGE, A KITCHEN AND A WINE BAR. AND THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE. IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR THREE REASONS. UM, NOT GRANTING THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. IT WOULD, UM, BUT IT WOULD WORK UNNECESSARY AND UN OH, IT WOULD NOT WORK UNDUE, UM, UNNECESSARY AND UNDUE HARDSHIP. THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT EXPERIENCE UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP IF THE VARIANCE IS NOT GRANTED. THE SECOND REASON, NOT, NOT GRANTING THE VARIANCE, DOES NOT DENY, UM, REASONABLE USE OF THE LAND, THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, UM, THE STRUCTURE. THEY, THEY DON'T NEED A VARIANCE TO BUILD THE HOUSE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. THEY HAVE NOT EXPRESSED HARDSHIP. UM, BUT THIS VARIANCE, IF THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTED, IT IS NOT IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND SUCH A VARIANCE WILL BE INJURIOUS AND DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC WELFARE. AND THAT HAS ALSO BEEN EXPRESSED IN THE LETTERS. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REQUEST TO SIGNIFICANTLY DEMOLISH THE MULTIFAMILY FRONT STRUCTURE. THE ART DECO HISTORIC BUILDING. THE DEXTER DON'T DEMOLISH THE DEXTER. UH, I, I CAN APPRECIATE LIKE THE CREATIVITY THAT WENT INTO THEIR PROJECT. UM, IT'S VERY CREATIVE. I AM, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. BUT THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HISTORIC BUILDING. UM, THERE IS CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC VALUE OF PRESERVATION OF ART DECO BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH. AS YOU ALL VERY WELL KNOW, THE CITY'S ART DECO BUILDINGS ARE NOT ONLY HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. THEY SIGNIFY THEY SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHARACTER IDENTITY AND THE TOURIST ECONOMY OF MIAMI BEACH. DEMOLITION OF THE DEXTER WOULD RESULT IN IRRETRIEVABLE LOSS OF HERITAGE. THE DEXTER SHOULD BE RESTORED, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DEMOLISHED, JUST BECAUSE THE DEXTER IS IN A FLOOD RISK AREA DOES NOT MAKE IT APPROPRIATE TO KNOCK DOWN THE MAJORITY OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING, ESPECIALLY TO REPLACE IT WITH A MODERN BUILDING THAT TOWERS SO FAR OVER THE, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. APPROPRIATE HEIGHT IS A FEATURE OF THE CHARACTER OF ART DECO BUILDINGS. FLOOD CODE DOES NOT OVERRIDE LOCAL PRESERVATION WHILE BUILDING CODES AND FLOOD RESILIENCE STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT. THEY DO NOT [03:45:01] AUTOMATICALLY PERMIT THE DEMOLITION OF HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS. WITHOUT REVIEW, THERE MUST STILL BE COMPLIANCE WITH YOU AND THE CITY'S PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. WHAT IS THEIR PROOF OF HARDSHIP? I DIDN'T GATHER ANY HARDSHIP FROM THEIR LETTER OF INTENT. UM, THE FLOOD CODE IS CLASHING WITH THE NEED FOR ART, ART DECO, HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UM, IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, THEY CLAIM THAT 3 36 MERIDIAN IS IN THE RPS TWO RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT. ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, THE LOT IS 50 FEET WIDE. ACCORDING TO MUNI CODE FOR RPS TWO PROPERTIES, IT STATES THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR A 50 FOOT OR LESS WIDE LOT IS 45 FEET TALL. YET THEIR PLAN SHOWS THEY WANNA BUILD A 47 FOOT TALL BUILDING WITH A CARPET. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY, BUT IT'S LIKE AN EXTRA THREE FOOT OF PROTECTION ON THE ROOF, WHICH WOULD BRING IT TO 50 FEET, AND THEN AN ELEVATOR AT 57 FEET. A SIMILAR ELEVATOR WAS PROPOSED IN 2012 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE 50 MERIDIAN, AND IT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AT THE TIME. THEY SAID YOU CAN GET UP TO THE, UH, ROOFTOP WITH STAIRS. SO LET'S GET BACK TO DON'T DESTROY THE DEXTER, DON'T SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, DEMOLISH THE DEXTER. AS WE DID MORE RESEARCH, WE DISCOVERED THE TERM FACADE AND HOW IT'S BEEN USED TO PRESERVE MANY ART DECO HOTELS. THIS CONCEPT HAS WORKED FOR A FEW OF THE ART DECO, UM, HOTELS, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS CONCEPT PERSONALLY, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ENOUGH TIME TO RESEARCH IT. BUT, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ON LIKE A MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE PROTECTING A BUILDING LIKE THIS. UM, I KNOW THE BETSY, THE SOUTH SEAS, UH, THE SHORE CLUB, THEY ALL USE THIS. IT WAS ALL APPROVED. UM, THE PROPOSED BUILDING PLAN MAY BE A FIRST OF ITS KIND. UM, IT'S SUPER UNIQUE, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S RIGHT OR APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ADDRESS. FOR 3 36 MERIDIAN, THE PROS, THE PROPOSED PLAN COMBINES THE PRESERVATION OF THE FACADE WALL WITH A MODERN STRUCTURE OVER IT. UM, A BRAND NEW, HUGE MODERN STRUCTURE IS SITTING RIGHT ON TOP OF THE PRES OF THE PRESERVED FACADE WALL THAT WILL DETRACT FROM THE CLASSIC ART DECO LOOK. AND I THINK I HEARD SOME OF YOU SAY THAT AS WELL, UM, IN YOUR COMMENTS. UM, THE, IT JUST DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HI ART DECO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UM, BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT I'VE, I HEARD A LOT FROM, UM, THE ARCHITECT JUST NOW ABOUT THE COURTYARD AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN SENSITIVE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COURTYARD, BUT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE, UM, THERE'S A STRUCTURE THAT SHOWED IN THE RENDERINGS, TOPS THE COURTYARD. SO IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN ENCLOSED COURTYARD. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ENCLOSING THE COURTYARD IS GONNA, IS BEING SENSITIVE TO US IF WE CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THEIR KITCHEN. UM, SO IN CONCLUSION, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE ISSUANCE OF ANY CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO TWO OF THE FOUR PROPOSITIONS. INSTEAD, WHAT I FEEL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IS TO RESTORE THE DEXTER, UM, THE FRONT OF THE ART DECO MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE. 3 36 MERIDIAN, BRING IT TO ITS FULL BEAUTY, RESTORE IT, TRULY PRESERVING THIS HISTORIC ART DECO BUILDING, DEMOLISH THE BACK HOUSE, TAKE IT DOWN, BUILD A NEW, BEAUTIFUL MODERN HOUSE IN THE BACK, BUT THAT'S RIGHT SIZED THAT DOESN'T NEED A VARIANCE. AND, UM, RESPECT AND LOVE WITH THY NEIGHBOR. I MEAN, THERE ARE 12 OF US THAT ARE, UH, BEING AFFECTED. SO, AND I DID HAVE A POWERPOINT TO PUT TOGE. I I PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE IT. BUT BASICALLY IT WAS SHOWING YOU GUYS IMAGES OF THE PROPERTY LINES, HOW YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE WE ARE ALREADY TO THE THREE 50 BUILDING. WHEN THAT THREE 50 BUILDING ON OUR NORTH SIDE WAS DESIGNED, IT WAS DESIGNED WITH, THEY HAVE THEIR WINDOWS FACING OUT, IT CLOSED OFF, IT CLOSED US OFF FROM THAT SIDE. IF THIS BUILDING IS ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO OUR SOUTH SIDE, WE ARE LITERALLY TRAPPED. OUR, OUR BUILDING WASN'T DESIGNED FOR LIKE, FOR THIS, IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CLOSE. THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF CONSIDERATION WITH HEIGHT, DISTANCE FROM THE SIDE IF THEY ARE, OH, THE, UM, FLOOD REQUIREMENTS ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS TODAY. I'M FINDING THIS OVER AND OVER, EVEN WHEN I, [03:50:01] I, I LISTENED. I WAS HERE ALL DAY. THESE FLOOD REQUIREMENTS ARE TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE AND I'M, I'M SEEING PEOPLE KIND OF USE THE, WELL, BECAUSE THE NEW FLOOD CODE SAYS WE HAVE TO START AT 12 FEET. THAT MEANS OUR BUILDING CAN BE 70 FEET IN THE AIR AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S LIKE, OH NO, IS THE BUILDING 40 FEET OR IS IT 50 FEET? YOU, OH, WELL IT'S 40 FEET IF YOU DON'T COUNT THE 12 FOOT ELEVATION THAT, SO, AND THAT'S, IT'S VERY CONFUSING AND IT'S VERY TRICKY. UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WE'RE OPEN TO HEAR, UM, YOUR PROPOSAL NEXT OR WHATEVER. THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? PUBLIC HEARING? KEEP IT REALLY SHORT. UH, I'M DIEGO ENOS. I'M ALSO AN OWNER AT 3 4 4. UH, I THINK JUST WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, MORE THAN ANYTHING, I JUST HOPE THAT, UH, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE WELCOME THEM AS NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR WHAT THEY'LL BUILD. I'M SURE WILL BE BEAUTIFUL. I HOPE THEY CAN SOMEWHAT GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND MAYBE TALK TO US. THIS DELICATE INTERVENTION AS, AS RENEE SAID, IS KIND OF REALLY IMPOSING ON ALL OF US. AND, UM, IT REALLY AFFECTS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND JUST WONDERING ABOUT THIS, THIS HEIGHT THING, THE 18 FEET THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO REALLY MITIGATE FLOOD STUFF. CAN WE BRING THAT DOWN? I MEAN, COME BACK DOWN. THAT HEIGHT IS, IS REALLY AFFECTING US, BUT, UH, I HOPE THAT WE CAN TALK TO THEM AND THAT YOU GUYS WILL GRANT US THE CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE THIS FURTHER SINCE WE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING UP. ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT THE FACADE OF THE DEXTER IS GONNA STAY THE WAY IT IS. I WOULD ARGUE THAT WHEN THESE TWO GROUPS COME BY THAT HAVE FOR YEARS, WHETHER ON A SEGUE OR BEING LED IN A GOLF CART, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SEE A FLOATING STRUCTURE OVER IT. IMPRESSIVE. IT IS, BUT IT'LL BE LOOMING OVER IT MORE SO YOU'RE DETRACTED LOOKING AT THAT BUILDING FROM THE PLANS THAT I SEE LOOKING UP AT IT FROM THE STREET. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH PRESERVATION OF A HISTORIC BUILDING SUCH AS THE DEXTER. IT COMPLETELY CHANGES THE FACADE LITERALLY. AND THE STRUCTURE IS PROPOSED. STRUCTURE IS IMPRESSIVE. I APPRECIATE THE, THE ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE COURTYARD. THAT'S LOVELY AND I WOULD SEE THAT OUT MY ACTUAL BALCONY. HOWEVER, I REALIZE THERE'S NO LAWS THAT KEEP SOMEONE FROM BUILDING AND BLOCKING OFF OF YOU. YOU'VE HAD SINCE 1974, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BUILDING. BUT THERE IS A HUMAN FACTOR THAT ALL THE WEALTH THAT'S ACCRUED THROUGH HAVING PROPERTY WAS BASED ON THAT VIEW. WE'LL LOSE THAT VIEW COMPLETELY, WHICH WILL ALSO IN TURN DEVALUE OUR HOMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UH, ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE, OKAY, YOU JULIE, YOU CAN GO AFTERWARDS. GOOD AFTERNOON. JULIE ISAACSON REPRESENTING THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, 3 36 MERIDIAN AVENUE, MDPL POSITION. WE OPPOSE THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. FIRST, THE APPLICATION DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE SUFFICIENT JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEAR COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE OCEAN BEACH. HISTORIC DISTRICT RETAINING ONLY THREE FACADE WALLS, DOES NOT CONSTITUTE MEANINGFUL HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND FAILS TO PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY THAT THE STRUCTURE CONTRIBUTES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SCALE MASSING AND ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE OVERSIZED DESIGN, PARTICULARLY THE PROJECTING GLASS BLOCK, OVERPOWERS THE HISTORIC FACADE. THE OVERALL DESIGN LACKS CONTEXTUAL SENSITIVITY TO THE PREDOMINANTLY ART DECO AND MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL CHARACTER OF ME, MERIDIAN AVENUE AND THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD. WE OPPOSED A REQUESTED VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE REAR SETBACK FROM 14 FEET TO FOUR FEET. THE APPLICANT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED A LEGITIMATE HARDSHIP. CLAIMS OF BASE FLOOD ELEVATION CHALLENGES DO NOT JUSTIFY REDUCED SETBACKS. WE BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL REPRESENTS OVERDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AND SETS A CONCERNING PRECEDENT FOR DEMOLISHING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WHILE CLAIMING PRESERVATION THROUGH FACADE RETENTION ALONE. WE ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO RECONSIDER THE DESIGN WITH A MORE CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL APPROACH THAT GENERALLY INTEGRATES AND RESPECTS THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE, REDUCES THE OVERALL MASS AND SCALE, AND ELIMINATES THE PROJECTING ELEMENTS THAT [03:55:01] OVERPOWER THE STREETSCAPE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ANYBODY ELSE? ONE SECOND. OKAY. HELLO, UH, TATIANA KOVIC REPRESENTING APARTMENT THREE B AT 3 44 MERIDIAN AVENUE. UM, I'M PIGGYBACKING OFF WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE PRETTY MUCH SAID. THIS IS AN ART DECO BUILDING. IT IS. I LOVE MERIDIAN AVENUE. PEOPLE GO THERE, THEY LOVE SEEING THE TREES, THEY LOVE SEEING THE OLD BUILDINGS. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MODERN GLASS BRICK BUILDING. BUILD IT IN BRICKLE IN DOWNTOWN EDGEWATER. BUT I THINK IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE THIS LOOMING BALCONY OVER THE BEAUTIFUL ART DECO BUILDING, RESTORE THE BUILDING, BUILD A SMALL LITTLE HOUSE IN THE BACK. I JUST THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTE EYESORE. AND THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PRESERVE THE TREES IN THE FRONT. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. THE TREES ARE GOING DOWN. THEY'RE GONNA BE CUT BECAUSE THIS HUGE GIGANTIC BALCONY IS GONNA BE IN THE WAY OF THOSE TREES. SO PLEASE RETHINK APPROVING ANYTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT. UNLESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY ONLINE, DO WE? NO, THERE'S NOBODY LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. OKAY, THEN WE WILL CLOSE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE YOU DO THAT. CHAIR. UH, YES IS I WANT TODD AND TIFFANY TO BE ABLE TO SAY A FEW WORDS OF, OF COURSE. WELL, HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS AND TEAM. UH, I'LL INTRODUCE THE BETTER HALF FIRST. MY WIFE TIFFANY ENGLE. I'M, UH, DR. TODD ENGLE. UM, I THINK I'LL COME FROM A LITTLE DIFFERENT STANCE AND PERSPECTIVE TODAY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I THINK THE BEST THING THAT WAS SAID TODAY WAS LOVE AND RESPECT BY NEIGHBOR. UM, WE, UH, CURRENTLY RESIDE IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. WE HAVE A HOME HERE, UH, CONDO ON OCEAN. AND THIRD, AND I JUST MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE, UM, I'M A DENTAL SURGEON AND, UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, THE OWNER AND FOUNDER OF A DENTAL, UH, IMPLANT INSTITUTE FOR 25 YEARS TEACHING ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE FORTUNATELY TWO YEARS AWAY FROM MY RETIREMENT AND ABLE TO CHOOSE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD THAT WE WANNA LIVE. AND THIS IS WHERE OUR HEART IS. WE WALK EVERY DAY. WE LOVE MIAMI BEACH. WE SUPPORT MIAMI BEACH. WE INFILTRATE MONEY INTO RESTAURANTS, PARKING LOTS, COFFEE SHOPS. WHEN WE COME HERE, WE UBER HOME AND WE DON'T LEAVE OUR HOME. WE SPEND OUR ENTIRE TIME SOUTH OF FIFTH. WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. WE DON'T KNOW ANYBODY HERE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. UM, WE WALK, AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT 20,000 STEPS A DAY. I DID MINE ALREADY. TODAY. I WALK DOWN JEFFERSON MERIDIAN ALL THE WAY BACK AND FORTH THIS MORNING TO 52ND STREET FROM THIRD STREET. MY FAVORITE STREET IS MERIDIAN. MY, MY FAVORITE STREET IS MERIDIAN BECAUSE OF THE TREES. I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO SAVE EVERY LEAF ON EVERY BRANCH. UM, I I I TELL YOU THAT IT THIS, I'M A PUBLIC SPEAKER. I'M NOT SHAKING 'CAUSE I'M NERVOUS, I'M SHAKING 'CAUSE IT'S EMOTIONAL. UM, I'VE WAITED MY WHOLE LIFE TO FIND A PLACE TO BE WITH MY FAMILY THAT I LOVE AND I LOVE IT HERE. SO WHILE I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE COMMENTS AND I THANK YOU, UM, WE WANT TO JOIN MIAMI. WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE MIAMI. WE LOVE THE DEXTER, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE FOUR ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, IT'S, WE CAN'T LIVE IN THIS. AND, UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS. UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AROUND AND TRYING TO PUT A TEAM TOGETHER TO NOT ONLY CREATE SOMETHING CONDUCIVE AND NEW FOR MIAMI, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP IT WHAT IT WAS, WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING. THE REASON WE CAME TO MIAMI IS 'CAUSE WE LOVE, WE LOVE WHAT MIAMI IS. WE REALLY DO. UM, BEING ORIGINALLY FROM CALIFORNIA, I UNDERSTAND THE WEATHER AND WE LOVE THE WEATHER, BUT WE LOVE IT HERE MORE NOW. UH, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I START WITH SOMEONE NOT, NOT ONLY CULTURALLY, CULTURALLY ROOTED, BUT FROM AN EXTREME TALENT LEVEL TO PROVIDE US WHAT WE NEED. AND WE BEGAN WITH RENEE. UM, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I THANK EVERYBODY, I REALLY DO. UH, AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND WE WISH EVERYBODY IN HERE THE BEST AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH. AND WE THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, UH, CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND NOW YOU HAVE A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL. OKAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE IT. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, A FEW POINTS REGARDING THE HEIGHT. WE'RE FULLY COMPLIANT ON HEIGHT. [04:00:01] THE HEIGHT IN THE DISTRICT IS 40 FEET FROM BASE FOOT ELEVATION PLUS FREEBOARD. WE ARE UTILIZING FOR RESILIENCY, WHICH IS THE RESILIENCY CODE. IT ENCOURAGES, UH, UNDERSTORY. WE HAVE AN UNDERSTORY AND MEASURING HEIGHT FROM VFE PLUS THE FIVE FEET OF FREEBOARD PLUS 40 FEET IS TO OUR TOP OF ROOF. WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT. AND THE THERE IS AN ELEVATOR BULKHEAD 10 FEET ABOVE THAT. THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THAT AS A ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTION. SO WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANT IN THAT REGARD. OUR SIDE SETBACKS ALSO FULLY COMPLIANT. UH, THAT IS WHAT THIS NOT JUST FOR OUR PROPERTY, BUT FOR THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT NORTH OF, UH, THE NEIGHBORS. THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THEIR SIDE SETBACKS. THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS DISTRICT. AND THAT IS ALSO I THINK THE HISTORIC, UH, SETBACKS FOR OLDER BUILDINGS AS WELL. AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, THE CONTEXT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A NUMBER OF, UH, MULTI-FLOOR, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS. SO WE ARE SIMILARLY SIZED. UM, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING IS, UH, PRESERVING THE DEXTER. IT MAY NOT BE PRESERVED AS A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING, BUT TODAY AND TOMORROW IT'S NOT A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE BUILDING. WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC GET TO VIEW THE FACADE FROM THE STREET, UH, ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND ACROSS THE WAY? AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PRESERVING IN PLACE. IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, UH, FROM A FLOOD, UH, PLANE PERSPECTIVE. AND THAT'S EXTREMELY CONCERNING. WHEN YOU GO TO TRY TO PRESERVE AND ALLOW IT TO BE HABITABLE, IT WOULD BE AT EXTREME RISK. BUT WE ARE PRESERVING THAT AND THEN BEING RESILIENT WITH THE REST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WHAT THAT DOES, THAT IS A MAIN PART OF OUR HARDSHIP, IS THAT WE ARE PRESERVING THE DEXTER IN PLACE AND WE ARE PULLING OUR BUILDING BACK. SO THE DEXTER ITSELF IS NOT AT THE FRONT SETBACK LINE. IT IS ALREADY FURTHER BACK AND PUSHING THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUILDING FURTHER BACK AND RESPECTING THE HISTORIC COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE ARE SEEKING THE VARIANCE AT THE REAR SETBACK. HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS A WELL-KNOWN AND ESTABLISHED, UH, HARDSHIP FOR, UM, SEEKING, UH, A ASSOCIATED VARIANCE. UH, THAT ALSO IS CREATING OUR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AS WELL AS THAT'S THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES. UH, ALLOWING THAT BUILDING TO REMAIN AND BE PRESERVED FROM THE, FOR THE PUBLIC AT THE FRONT. UH, IT MEANS WE ARE PUSHING AWAY TOWARDS THE BACK AND AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE SHOWN AND OUR, ALL OF OUR PLANS INDICATE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE HISTORIC CONTEXT FOR REAR SETBACKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE AGREE TO THE FIVE FEET THAT STAFF, UH, HAS SUGGESTED NO ISSUE WITH THAT. AND AS I DID MENTION, THERE IS A WELL ESTABLISHED, I'M, I'M, I KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE, UH, FOR YEARS AND SEEN, YOU KNOW, VIEWS ACROSS THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT THERE IS NO RIGHT TO VIEW ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, BUILDING, WHICH COULD HAVE UP TO 16 UNITS, UH, AT 950 SQUARE FEET EACH AND HAVE ALL THE PARKING AND LIKELY SEEK BALCONIES THAT WOULD FACE THE NEIGHBORS. WE ARE HAVE NO BALCONIES FACING THE NEIGHBORS AND WE ARE LEAVING ABOUT 1500 OR MORE SQUARE FEET. UNDEVELOPABLE, YOU SEE THAT COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS OPEN RIGHT AT THE POSITION WHERE THERE ARE BALCONIES, UH, IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE ONLY PORTION OF THE SOUTH WALL OF THEIR BUILDING THAT HAS BALCONIES IS RIGHT WHERE WE ARE PLACING OUR COURTYARD TO MAINTAIN THAT HISTORIC, UH, IF WE DID ALL WE FULLY BUILT OUT HAD FULL FAR, THAT WOULD BE A BIG BOX. THAT WHOLE AREA WOULD BE FILLED IN AND THEY WOULD BE STARING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BLANK WALL, BUT YOU KNOW, AT A WALL OF SOME KIND. UM, SO WE FEEL THAT THIS IS THE MORE SENSIBLE APPROACH. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE PROBABLY MORE BE MORE QUESTIONS THAT I'LL LEAVE, UH, FOR YOU TO ASK, UH, CERTAINLY ABOUT THE BALCONY. I'M SURE RENEE CAN, CAN FILL YOU IN MORE. BUT I THINK THAT'S IT FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND I I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, STAFF JUST TO STEP IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK, UH, WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT AND SINCE YOU'RE OUR PROFESSIONAL, UM, ADVISORS ON THIS, YOU, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, THE FURTHER THE SCALE AND MASSING OF THE PROPOSED HOME WITH A PROPOSED COURTYARD IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH AND CONTEXTUALLY SENSITIVE TO THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE AS COMPARED TO MORE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED BUILDINGS SUCH AS THREE 50 MERIDIAN OR THE ADJACENT BUILDING AT 3 44 CONSTRUCTED IN 1974. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON MAYBE ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD, AND IF YOU CAN PUT THIS INTO CONTEXT WITH, UH, GUIDANCE THAT WAS ACTUALLY VOTED INTO, UM, LIKE BUOYANT CITY GUIDANCE THAT WAS VOTED IN BY THE CITY COMMISSION SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW ON THE DISCUSSION THAT SURE. SO, SO [04:05:01] LOOKING BACK AT THE, UM, REFERENCE TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, UM, THAT REFERS TO THE COURTYARD. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF THAT, UM, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A COURTYARD. SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE BUILDINGS BUILT OUT FROM SETBACK TO SETBACK MM-HMM . UM, THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC, UM, CHARACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DID HAVE A FRONT BUILDING AND A REAR BUILDING WITH A MORE, A COURTYARD IN THE CENTER. AS MR. RAMPER STATED, IF THEY WERE TO, YEAH, THEY COULD, THEY COULD REMOVE, THEY COULD PUSH THE WHOLE BUILDING INWARD, ELIMINATE THAT COURTYARD, ELIMINATE THE VARIANCE REQUEST, BUT IS THAT GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO ANYBODY? AND IS THAT, DOES THAT ALSO, THEN IT DOESN'T FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE SORT OF, UM, COURTYARD DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME OF, OF THESE PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF THE RESILIENCY CODE? YOU KNOW, RAY DIDN'T MENTION, HE'S ONE OF THE, THE, HE, HE PROBABLY HAD ONE OF THE FIRST PROPERTIES, OR DESIGNED ONE OF THE FIRST PROPERTIES WITH AN UNDERSTORY BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE CITY EVEN HAD UNDERSTORY REGULATIONS, UH, ON PRAIRIE AVENUE. AND SO HE'S VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH DESIGNING, UM, RESILIENT BUILDINGS. AND SO IN TERMS OF THE, UM, IN TERMS HIS BUILDING DOES RESPOND TO THE REQUIREMENT TO, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE BUILDINGS AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE FOR 50 OR A HUNDRED YEARS. THIS IS A BUILDING THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO IT. IT'S GONNA LAST FOR HOPEFULLY A HUNDRED YEARS. SO YOU WANT IT TO BE RESILIENT. AND HE'S DESIGNED IT, YOU KNOW, AS SUCH. AND WHEN, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND DEBBIE LOOKED AT THIS BUILDING, IT IS A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT, UM, DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN CONCEPT. AND WE, I THINK RENEE DIDN'T FOCUS UP MORE ON WHY IS THE BALCONY ALONG THE FRONT THAT CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, PLANE. AND THAT'S MORE SO TO, TO NOT OVERWHELM THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE. SO THIS BECOMES A BACKDROP. HE HAS THE MIRROR, THE, THE UNDERSIDE WITH A SLIGHT REFLECTION SO THAT THE LANDSCAPING BEHIND THAT WILL BE REFLECTIVE ABOVE THAT. AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE JUST A TYPICAL, YEAH, HE COULD HAVE, THEY COULD HAVE DESIGNED A ROOFTOP ADDITION ON TOP OF THE EXISTING TEXTURE. AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S MORE TYPICAL STANDARD. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOTHING INNOVATIVE. SO WE BELIEVE THAT HIS PHILOSOPHY HERE, WHICH IS TO REALLY KEEP THAT, UM, PRESERVED ARCHITECTURE AND NOT OVERWHELM IT BY ADDING AN ADDITION, HAVING A, A, AN ADDITION THAT'S SEPARATE AND DETACHED. AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHY, REASON WHY HE'S, HE HAS THIS, YOU KNOW, ELEVATED BALCONY. I DO THINK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS, AS WELL, THAT IF, IF THE BOARD IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT APPROACH, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE. HE COULD, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE SIZE OF THAT TO A TYPICAL RAILING. IF THERE'S CONCERNS WITH BRANCHES OVER, OVER IMPACTING THAT BALCONY, I THINK THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, AND FURTHER ANALYZE OTHER B OTHER BRANCHES THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, INTERFERE WITH THAT BALCONY. THEY COULD REDUCE IT. I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY ACADEMIC EXERCISE WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ELEVATIONS IN PURENESS. WITHOUT THE LANDSCAPING, WE'RE PROBABLY NEVER GONNA SEE THAT CONDITION. SO I DO THINK THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THIS HAS A GOOD ARGUMENT ACADEMICALLY IN TERMS OF THE, THE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ADDING THE TREES, WOULD IT BE THAT BAD IF THEY REDUCED THE BALCONY TO A TYPICAL BALCONY HEIGHT? AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE WINDOWS BEHIND IT? IT DOESN'T, IT MAY IMPACT HIS INTEGRITY OF HIS DESIGN, BUT I THINK THAT'S SORT OF A, A MINOR, UM, ACCOMMODATION IF THE BOARD MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE SIDE ELEVATIONS OR THE OVERALL DESIGN. IT SEEMS LIKE THE FOCUS IS ON THAT, UM, THE BALCONY IN THE FRONT. SO, AND I DO THINK THAT HIS SOLUTION, BY KEEPING THE, THE BUILDING THE DECK TO WHERE IT IS, YOU CAN ELEVATE IT, THEN YOU, THEN YOU, YOU DIVORCE IT FROM THE STREET AND THAT'S GONNA BE DIVORCED UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE STREET IS, THAT THE STREET IS ELEVATED, IF EVER. SO I THINK THIS IS PRESERVES SORT OF THE HISTORY AND THE, UM, THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SEE, OH, I SEE WHY THEY LEFT THIS OPEN. THIS, THIS AREA COULD FLOOD. SO, BUT IT PRESERVES SORT OF THE HISTORIC IT IS, IT IS LIKE A, UM, UM, LIKE A RELIC OR A, UM, A RUIN. NOT, BUT NOT, NOT TO THAT EXTENT, BUT YOU COULD SEE WHERE IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN MIAMI BEACH. AND THAT THE, ANOTHER THING TO POINT TO NOTE ON, WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON THE, THE GLASS WALL ON THE PROPERTY LINE. I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED FROM A QUESTION, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THEY COULD DO THAT IS A FIVE FEET. SO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THAT WALL ON THE FRONT IS FIVE FEET. AND THAT, THAT GLASS DESIGN WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD. SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE GLASS BLOCK FOR THE, FOR THE FENCE. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO LIKE A STANDARD, YOU KNOW, PICKET FENCE FOR THE FRONT, FOR THE FRONT WALL. OKAY. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THAT OR, UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU SAID THAT THE FRONT WALL, BECAUSE IT'S A BLOCK, A GLASS BLOCK. YEAH. WE WOULDN'T TO BE APPROVED BY US. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE WOULDN'T TYPICALLY APPROVE A GLASS BLOCK AT STAFF LEVEL FOR A PROPERTY WALL. I SEE. BUT IF IT WERE LIKE A MASONRY CONCRETE THROUGH A PAINTED YES. THAT COULD, THAT COULD, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY US. CORRECT. CORRECT. GOT ALL RIGHT. UM, SO DO WE HAVE, UH, COMMENTS NOW? NOT [04:10:01] QUESTIONS? RANDY, DID YOU, ARE YOU OUT OF COMMENTS OR YOU JUST ? UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GO, RIGHT, PLEASE. WELL, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT THAT BALCONY, UH, TO ME IS LIKE TOO OVERPOWERING ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. I WOULD RATHER SEE IT JUST AS A STRAIGHT BALCONY, NO GLASS BLOCK OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE IT STEPS BACK. THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR WINDOW, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR, I MEAN, IT IT RIGHT NOW IT JUST, IT, IT JUST IS A BIG IN YOUR FACE BLOCK. AND, AND I, I CAN'T APPROVE IT LIKE THAT. IF, IF I MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME. I'M SORRY. UM, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK AND FORTH? 'CAUSE WE NEED TO, I JUST, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO PULL UP AN IMAGE THAT I HAVE OF LET'S SAY, THE NAKED BUILDING WITHOUT, IN MY VIEW, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WOULD SEE THAT, THAT WAY BECAUSE, AND IT IS MAYBE, UH, UM, STARK WHEN YOU FIRST SEE IT. BUT I THINK THAT THE, THE FINAL RESULT, UH, HONESTLY, AND THAT'S THE INTENT, IS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORIC BUILDING AND TO, TO CREATE SOMETHING, AS MICHAEL VERY WELL SAID, THAT BECOMES BACKDROP AND, AND SOFT, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE THE GLASS BLOCK WILL ESSENTIALLY JUST REFLECT THE LIGHT AND HOVER OVER IT AS A SOFT, UH, RECTANGULAR ELEMENT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T ARTICULATED IT. BUT WE HAVE IN, IN, UH, THE, YOU COULD CALL UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE. CAN YOU HELP ME PULL THIS UP, PLEASE? OH, HERE, I'VE GOT IT. SO I, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THIS IMAGE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE, THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THAT RAILING. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUSYNESS OF WHAT THE FACADE WOULD BE HAVING, UH, HAVING, UH, SLIDING GLASS DOORS, UH, AND A REGULAR BALCONY AND, AND, AND VERSUS, UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH IS SOMETHING SOFTER AND, AND, UH, SORT OF JUST MORE UNIFORM. UH, IT MAY NOT, I, I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE, UH, A LAY PERSON, UH, MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT. BUT I THINK IN REALITY WHEN THIS IS BUILT, YOU, UH, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU WILL, UH, APPROVE THIS AND, AND SUPPORT IT. AND, AND IF SO, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ONE DAY AFTER IT'S BUILT AND, AND UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR POINT OF VIEW. BECAUSE I, I TRULY BELIEVE AS AN ARCHITECT THAT LOVES THIS CITY, AND THAT, AS MICHAEL SAID, DID I THINK THE FIRST, UH, RESILIENT HOUSE, THE ON PRAIRIE, WHICH IS, UH, UH, THE ELEVATED HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT ON PRAIRIE. UH, I CARE ABOUT THIS PLACE. AND, AND, AND I, I ALSO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE, AND WE, WE, WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, UH, TO MEET WITH THEM SO THAT I COULD EXPLAIN THIS TO THEM. BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND AND BE SYMPATHETIC THAT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AN EMPTY LOT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. BUT I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING IS REALLY TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THEM, TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE AND, AND TO MIAMI BEACH IN GENERAL. UM, SO THAT'S OKAY. THANKS. AND AS A REMINDER, YES, THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE EXISTING STREET TREE CANOPY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS VIEW WILL NOT BE SEEN UNLESS I'M HORRIBLE, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY IT. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GREAT, THERE ARE LIMITED A VANTAGE POINTS, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY THE DEXTER WILL SHINE IN THIS PROPOSAL, RIGHT? I, THE TWO CONCERNS I HAVE, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THAT ENTIRE BALCONY IS IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING. IT'S ENTIRELY STICKING OUT. I I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAP RIGHT NOW OF THE STREET, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. YOU LOOK UP, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT. I, I DON'T, THERE'S A TREE IN THE, IN THE BOULEVARD. THERE ARE NO TREES IN THE FRONT YARD. THEY'RE ALL SMALL BIRD TO PARADISE, BAMBOO OR SOMETHING. I CAN'T TELL EXACTLY. UM, YOU WILL SEE THAT. UM, AND THE FACT THAT IT PROJECTS OUT OVER IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, I'M SORRY, YOUR, YOUR OTHER PICTURES, 10 TIMES BETTER, IN MY OPINION, FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE MUS NOT TO BE DARK BROWN, I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH LESS BUSY. IT ACTUALLY WAS. LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN EXAGGERATED TO MAKE IT LOOK BUSY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING YOU HAVE ON THAT PICTURE, IT'S VERY GENERIC. WITH ALL THOSE MUS YOU CAN HARDLY TELL THERE'S, YET, WHEN YOU TAKE THE RAILING OFF, YOU MADE IT DARK. IT'S VERY BUSY. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I, I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE THAT THIS IS A BETTER OPTION. TRANSPARENCY TO A STREET AND AN URBAN AREA IS IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT A BACK ALLEY, UM, THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS ON THE BACK ALLEY OF THIS PROPERTY. SO THAT'S, I I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. YEAH. OKAY. UM, RAY, ON THE, ON THE MIC, PLEASE. ANY, UH, HASKELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANY COMMENTS? NOT AT THE MOMENT. WELL, THIS IS THE MOMENT WE'RE [04:15:01] OTHERWISE . OKAY. . OH, YOU WANNA COME BACK? OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT, GO FOR IT, MITCH. SORRY, I, I JUST THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH EACH PERSON IN ORDER. SO, TO THE REAR SETBACK, THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING CONTENTIOUS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. ARE YOU, UH, WILLING TO REDUCE IT ANY FURTHER BEYOND THE FIVE FEET THAT STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS? MATT, RENEE? UH, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO BACK TO THIS IMAGE SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE, THE REASON AND HOW MUCH WE ARE, UH, PUSHING BACK FROM THE FRONT. UH, ESSENTIALLY THE ENCLOSED SPACE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH A HISTORIC, UH, FACADE. YES, THE, THE BALCONY ELEVATION SITS OUT, BUT WITHIN THE SETBACK, BUT WE'RE STILL 23 FOOT FIVE INCHES PRIMARILY. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE, UH, THE, WE APPRECIATE THE, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND, UH, ARE ARE FINE WITH THAT. BUT I THINK IF WE, IF WE REDUCE IT MUCH FURTHER, WE WILL HAVE TO SORT OF DILUTE THAT COURTYARD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GONNA IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY. WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. CAN YOU, UH, TAKE TWO OR THREE, UH, FEET, UH, PULL IT, UH, WE CAN, AND THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO PUSH INTO THE COURTYARD TWO OR THREE FEET. IT'S, IT'S A REAL BALANCING ACT HERE, AND YOU CAN BE CERTAIN THAT I'VE STUDIED THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND THAT I'M TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN, UH, ALL OF IT IN, IN, IN OUR VIEW. AND, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS DRAWING AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE NUMBER OF, UH, PROPERTIES, INCLUDING OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, THAT IS ENCROACHING ON THE SETBACK. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALLEY, CAN WE PULL THOSE IMAGES PLEASE? UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, AT THE ALLEY, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU'LL SEE THE NATURE OF THE ALLEY. THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL THERE. BUT WHAT IS SPECIAL IS, IS THE COURTYARD AND WHAT WILL BE SPECIAL TREE. RIGHT? THE HUGE TREE. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. THAT'S STAYING THE CAPE TREE. AND, AND WHAT WILL BE SPECIAL? I THINK WHAT WILL BE SPECIAL IS THE EFFECT OF THE COURTYARD ON THE, ON THE NEIGHBORS. LET'S NO CROSSTALK. WE'RE WE, WE CAN'T HAVE ANY TALK OFF THE RECORD. OFF THE, SO YEAH, SO I'LL JUST EXPLAIN THOSE. I'LL EX I'LL EXPLAIN THESE TWO, UH, DRAWINGS, WHICH WE DID, UH, IN RELATION TO, UH, THE COURTYARD ISSUE AND THE SETBACK AND THE, THE, THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBOR. SO THIS IS WHERE THE COURTYARD SITS, AND IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE PRECISELY WHERE THEIR BALCONY IS. I MEAN, WE'VE REALLY ATTEMPTED TO BE SENSITIVE WITH THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID THAT IT'S 8,000 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 10,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO THIS SWATH HERE, AND YES, THERE IS A BRIDGE THAT GOES ACROSS AND CONNECTS THE TWO ELEMENTS, BUT IT'S A BRIDGE. AND YET THIS, THIS WHOLE AREA HERE, WHICH SITS IN FRONT OF THE BALCONIES, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THERE THE ELEVATION. WE TOOK THE TROUBLE OF, OF DRAWING THE ELEVATION OF THEIR BUILDING. THIS IS WHERE THEIR BALCONY OCCURS, AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHERE THE COURTYARD OCCURS. AND HERE YOU SEE IT IN PLAN. SO FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SEE THE INTERIOR OF THE COURTYARD? WILL THEY BE LOOKING AT, DEPENDS ON WHAT LEVEL. IF THEY'RE AT THIS LEVEL, YES, THEY'LL LOOK RIGHT INTO IT. WELL, DEPENDS ON THE, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE IN BOTH THE NEIGHBOR'S FAVOR AND, AND MY CLIENT'S FAVOR FOR THIS TO GET DENSELY PLANTED. SO I THINK THEY WILL SEE A JUNGLE, OR THEY, THEY'LL SEE VEGETATION, WHICH IS THE INTENTION. OKAY. AND WHEN YOU SAID THAT LEVEL, YOU WERE REFERRING TO 20 FEET UP, OR THESE, THESE ARE THE, THIS IS ALL PARKING ON THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR? YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, HABITABLE LEVEL NEXT DOOR. THIS IS THE SECOND HABITABLE LEVEL, AND THIS IS THE THIRD HABITABLE LEVEL. AND, AND THIS IS THE NATURE OF THE ALLEY. SO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO ENCROACH ON THE ALLEY AND YES. RESPECT THE FIVE FEET THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE STANDARD THAN THE FOUR FEET, OR, AND, AND, AND YET, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A SIMILAR CONDITION TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THE ALLEY, OR DO WE WANNA LOSE, UH, SORT OF A COURTYARD FOR, FOR THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT AND ALSO FOR THE NEIGHBORS? I, I, I DIDN'T FIND, UH, UH, A NORTHERN ELEVATION FOR, UH, DO YOU HAVE ONE AVAILABLE? YEAH, WE SHOULD, UH, CAN YOU PULL IT UP? MM-HMM . WE'LL PULL THAT UP FOR YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S, IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE AS WELL. [04:20:01] IT SHOULD BE. IF YOU COULD GIVE ME THE PAGE, UH, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. UM, IT SHOULD BE WITH THE ELEVATIONS WAY BACK, SO THICK PACKAGE A 11 THERE. IT'S OKAY. HERE IT IS. GREAT. SO, SO, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. GOT IT. SO I, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN WITH THE PALM TREES. GOTCHA. SO IN THIS ELEVATION WHERE THE TWO PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON THE LEFT, ACTUALLY, IS THAT THE SIDEWALK OR IS THAT THE, THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THAT'S THE SIDEWALK? NO, THAT'S THE PROPERTY. UH, NO, THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY. I'M SORRY, ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO THE, THE YEAH, YEAH, THE SIDE. YEAH. NOW YOU LOST ME. THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IS THAT, AND JOHN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, MISLEADING IN THE SENSE THAT IT TENDS TO LOOK LIKE IT'S THE SIDEWALK THAT'S INSIDE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE YES, THE, THE BALCONY IS WITHIN THE BUILDABLE AREA, RIGHT. OF THE SITE. GOT IT. REMEMBER, THE DEXTER WALL IS 15 FEET, FIVE INCHES FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, WILL YOU FINISHED? I, MITCH, YOU SURE? I MEAN, SURE. OKAY. YOU CAN COME, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU. THEY DONE. OKAY. OKAY. SO THANK YOU RENE, SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DESIGN AND THE CARE YOU ALL TOOK, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO USE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE SAME TIME, UH, SATISFY YOUR CLIENT'S DESIRE OF BEING MIAMI BEACH. AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL. UH, I PERSONALLY HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE DESIGN . ONE, I TEND TO AGREE THAT THE BALCONY GOING BEYOND THE FRONT EXISTING FRONT ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HEIGHT IF IT WERE SET BACK FLUSH WITH THE EXISTING ELEVATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT BY CODE, BUT I THINK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMING AND TAKING OVER THE STRUCTURE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR INTENT OF HAVING THE UNDERSIDE REFLECTIVE AND THE GLASS BLOCK ALL THAT WILL HELP OR MINIMIZE THE EFFECT. BUT I STILL FEEL IT WON'T TAKE IT AWAY. IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT DISAPPEAR. AND I FIND IT OVERWHELMING IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND GIVING THE EXISTING SITUATION. AND MY OTHER THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS THE ENCROACHMENT ON THE REAR SETBACK. I UNDERSTAND THE ALLEY IS THE ALLEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE ALLEY FULFILLS A PURPOSE. AND AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, THE FUTURE, IF THEY RAISE THE ALLEY, HAVING THE ADDITIONAL WHI HELPS FOR IT. AND I THINK FOUR FEET ON EACH SIDE. IT, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AND IT'S ALSO, IT'S AN ISSUE OF PRIVACY TOO. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CITY HAS INCREASED THE REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE SETBACKS TO CREATE MORE SPACE AND ALLOW FOR MY PRIVACY FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT HISTORICALLY, SOUTH BEACH WAS ALWAYS A VERY DENSE AREA FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. SO I THINK THAT IS THE ONE WAY THAT THE CITY HAS FOUND TO MINIMIZE THAT. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO AREAS THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH. OKAY. THANK YOU, LINDSEY. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST A LAY PERSON, BUT, UM, AT LEAST AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURE'S CONCERNED. BUT I HAVE SAT ON THIS BOARD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I WILL ECHO MY NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS. I'LL ECHO MY NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS. I, I, I DO STRUGGLE. I, SO I AM PROBABLY ALMOST AS FAMILIAR WITH THIS STRETCH OF MERIDIAN AS ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM. UM, SO I, I DO STRUGGLE SPECIFICALLY, AND I RAISED THIS EARLIER, MY CONCERN ABOUT THE TREES, I, I, I, THE, AS STAFF MENTIONED, UM, THE BALCONY IS OVERPOWERING, UM, OVER THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL CONCERN GIVEN TO PRESERVING THE THREE WALLS OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. UM, THE DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL INTO THE COURTYARD AND WHATNOT. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. UM, BUT I, I, I DON'T, STANDING HERE TODAY, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS IS, UM, BASED ON THE IMPOSING NATURE OF THE STRUCTURE OVER THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND I MEAN, IT'S LITERALLY AT THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE THAT BALCONY COMES TO. AND, UM, I MEAN, I'VE STOOD ON THE ROOFTOP [04:25:01] OF THE BUILDING TWO DOORS DOWN. LIKE I KNOW WHERE THESE TREES COME TO, I KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. PROPERTY, MOST OF THEM STEP BACK. ACTUALLY, 3 44 DOESN'T STEP BACK. BUT THE OTHER NEWER PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE LOUVER HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SET BACK. THE IMPOSING NATURE OF THIS OVER THE SIDEWALK AND OVER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING BY. I, I DO THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. AND, AND SO I, THAT'S JUST WHERE I AM. SO I KNOW STAFF HAS ASKED FOR, OR SUGGESTED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. UH, MY PERSPECTIVE PERSONALLY, I'M GONNA SHARE THIS WITH THE BOARD AND WITH THE APPLICANT, IS THAT YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE REVISION STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THE STUFF THAT WE'VE DIS THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE, SPECIFICALLY CHANGES TO THAT FRONT BALCONY. UM, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, UM, REGARDING THAT. THE, THE REPRESENTATION OF IT WITH THE WALL REMOVED LOOKS INTENTIONALLY BUSY, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT BUSY. UM, TAKE SOME OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST AS SIMPLE AS, OKAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO ENCROACHING THIS MUCH IN THE SETBACK, AND WE DON'T WANT THIS. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, OKAY, COOL, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CUT THOSE OFF AND HERE'S THE NEW PROPERTIES WE'RE STANDING HERE. UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS KIND OF SOME THOUGHTFUL REDESIGN OF THOSE ELEMENTS, UM, TO COME BACK BEFORE US. THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. UM, AND, AND I GO, SORRY, RAY, QUESTION TO YOU. DO YOU THINK, UH, UH, HAVING THE BALCONY REMOVED TOTALLY, AND THEN JUST HAVE LIKE A FRENCH BALCONY DOOR AS PART OF THE BEDROOM? YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST OPEN UP YOUR DOOR AND YOU HAVE A BALCONY RIGHT THERE, AND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BEDROOM IS NOW PART OF THAT BALCONY. I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING? 'CAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR THE BALCONY TOTALLY TAKEN OFF, CORRECT? YEAH, NO, WELL, I DON'T WANT IT TO EXTEND TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS WHERE IT IS NOW. IT'S GO, IT'S EXTENDING FIVE FEET SET BACK. SORRY, MY APOLOGIES TO THE FENCE LINE. YES. IS IT THE FENCE LINE? NO, THE FENCE IS OVER. IT'S NOT WELL, IT OVERHANGS OVER IT TOTALLY OVERHANGS. LET'S SEE, WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE, WHAT PAGE IS THE YELLOW DRAWING THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT? ? THIS ONE? RENEE, RENEE LOOKING FOR THE YELLOW. LET'S WAIT, WAIT, NO CROSSTALK HERE. YEAH, I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT NOW. LET'S JUST FINISH THIS. SO THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN THE FENCE IS WHERE THE FENCE IS AT, AT THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO I, IT'S THE, IT'S GOES TO THE FIVE FOOT FRONT FENCE SETBACK, BUT I STILL THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE OVERPOWERING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I COULD BE WRONG, I DON'T THINK, OTHER THAN SOMETHING THAT GOES STRAIGHT UP. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA OVERHANG LIKE THAT. UM, AT, ON MERIDIAN, AS BEST I CAN RECALL, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING, IT ALL STEPS BACK. I KNOW EVEN THREE 50 STEPS BACK, THERE MAY BE WALLS, BUT LIKE THE BALCONIES THEMSELVES KIND OF STEP BACK. I, I THINK THEY'RE ON THE SETBACK, WHICH IS, UH, SORT OF FURTHER OUT OR AT THE SAME POINT AS THIS. I MEAN, IT APPEARS LIKE, UH, THIS WOULD SET OUT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THE EXISTING HISTORIC FACADE. IS THAT CORRECT? BUT I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO EXTEND FIVE FEET OVER THE EXISTING, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. MITCH, THE THANK YOU. THE DEPTH OF THE BALCONY, IS THAT 10 AND A HALF FEET? YES, YES, YES, YES. 10 AND A HALF FEET, ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. IT'S APPROXIMATELY WHAT'S 10? IT'S 10 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO IF YOU NO SUBTRACT FOR THE WALL FIVE FEET, IF, IF YOU PULL UP THE IMAGE THAT I HAVE CURRENTLY ON, SORRY, NOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, FROM THE SETBACK, MY APOLOGIES. HERE, YOU SAY GO THE, THE, THE 10 MM-HMM . 10 AND F YOU SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS, UH, HERE. MM-HMM . THIS IS OUR, OUR FIVE FOOT SETBACK. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS THE BUILDABLE AREA. ALL THIS YELLOW ZONE IS ACTUALLY BUILDABLE AREA. AND THAT, AND WITHIN THAT AREA IS WHERE MOST OF THE BUILDINGS CURRENTLY EXIST ON THIS STREET. MM-HMM . UH, AND LOUVER HOUSE INCLUDED, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COURTYARD. 'CAUSE I DESIGNED LOUVER HOUSE, SO MM-HMM . UM, I, MITCH, GO AHEAD. DID YOU HAVE CONTINUE? I'M JUST FASCINATED, UH, THAT THE, UH, 10 AND A HALF FOOT, UH, CANTILEVER, UH, THAT'S, UH, IMPRESSIVE. UH, I GUESS STEEL TUBES WILL DO WONDERS. UH, THIS IS GOOD DESIGN FOLKS. UH, QUITE FRANKLY, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S, UH, TREPIDATION OR CONCERN WITH THE, UH, GLASS WALL, GLASS BLOCK WALL ON THAT BALCONY. UH, [04:30:01] PERHAPS, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LOWERING IT A BIT COULD BE CONSIDERED. I, I LIKE THAT IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT OF AS THE, UH, THE, UH, OTHER ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN. UM, I JUST WISH WE COULD FIND A, UH, SOME SORT OF, UH, MIDDLE GROUND WHERE THE NEIGHBORS COULD, UH, COULD, COULD REST EASILY. SO, UH, I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE REAR SETBACK, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, LESSENING THE, UH, THE DEPTH OF THE, UH, COURTYARD. UH, WELL, YEAH, NO, I, I, I AGREE. AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I KNOW YOU'RE AN AMAZING ARCHITECT, RENEE, AND I WOULD REALLY NOT WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO NICKEL AND DIME THIS IN ANY WAY. 'CAUSE I THINK IF YOU TOOK THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HEARD TODAY AND BACK WITH YOUR CLIENTS AND WITH YOUR STAFF AND KIND OF WORKED ON THAT, I AM, I'M THINKING YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY GET SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN CONCEIVED OF YET, BUT WOULD ALSO KIND OF PERHAPS PULL THIS BOARD AROUND SO YOU GET THE FIVE VOTES THAT YOU'D NEED TO, TO PASS THIS. I ASSUME IT'S FIVE VOTES, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S FIVE FOR BOTH. IT'S WHAT? RIGHT. THE VARIANCE AND TO PREVENT FIVE FOR BOTH, RIGHT? NO, SO, SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET FIVE PEOPLE ON BOARD. UM, AND I WAS JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I ASKED, UH, MICHAEL ABOUT THE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WAS, AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY, WAS THE, WAS BECAUSE THE, UH, BOY AND CITY GUIDELINES ARE SO SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION. AND IT, IT'S NOT ANSWERED LIKE, WELL, I MEAN, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT MUCH BETTER, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF ABOUT FORWARDING THE HISTORIC PROPERTY IN SOME WAY AS YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR OWN WAY. BUT YOU ALSO KIND OF HAVE THIS BROYER ESQUE KIND OF, UH, STRUCTURE BEHIND IT. AND THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ THEM THE HISTORY OF THE BROYER BUILDING IN, IN, IN MANHATTAN, AND IT'S, THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT WERE REALLY VERY REMINISCENT OF KIND OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD TODAY. THEY'RE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOOK PLACE IN THE SEVENTIES. BUT I DO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAY, I WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE WE'D HAVE A, A, UM, I, WHAT KIND OF WHAT YOU, KIND OF, WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO DO. I JUST DON'T SEE THE, THE BOARD KIND OF COMING AROUND, UH, WITH THE FIVE VOTES YET. UM, BUT I, BUT I, I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT IF YOU HAD MORE CONVERSATION WITH MAYBE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND HAD A KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'D BE REALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE OFF WITH THIS. I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE SECOND, MIKE. OH, JUST WAIT, WAIT ONE SECOND. I JUST WANT, NO, SORRY. I WAS, I, I WAS JUST GOING TO, I APPRECIATE LINDSAY'S CONVERSATION AND BY NO MEANS WAS I SUGGESTING THAT A LAY PERSON DOESN'T, I MEAN, ALL I WAS SAYING WAS THAT MAYBE THE DRAWINGS CAN BE, UH, SORT OF BETTER UNDERSTOOD BY AN, BY AN ACADEMIC OR AN ARCHITECT. THAT'S ALL I WAS, SO I'M SORRY I DIDN'T NOT MEAN THAT WHATSOEVER. UM, I, UH, WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE I APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS, UH, LINDSEY AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, AND, AND IN GENERAL FROM FROM ALL OF YOU, UM, IF I, I, IS IT HAVING THE BALCONY PERIOD? SO IF THE BALCONY EXISTED WITHOUT THAT FACADE, AND WE SORT OF DEVELOPED, UH, THE FACADE, UH, IN, AT THIS, IN OTHER WORDS, THE ONLY VISIBLE FACADE WOULD BE THIS FACADE HERE IN LINE WITH A HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT THE BALCONY WOULD STILL, WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. WE DON'T, CAN YOU PUT THE, YOU MAY PUT THE IMAGE UP, PLEASE. CAN WE PLEASE? THERE WE GO. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET, I'M, I'M HEARING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE CONTINUED. I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, UH, COMMENTS AND, AND I'M TRYING TO MM-HMM . UNDERSTAND AND TAKE IT IN SO THAT WE CAN WALK AWAY AND COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT'S PRODUCTIVE. UH, SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE, UH, UH, HAVE THE ELEVATION HERE THAT IT WILL BE VISIBLE, UH, WOULD IT STILL BE ACCEPTABLE, UH, TO YOU ALL IF THERE IS A BALCONY HERE THAT IS TRANSPARENT IN NATURE? IN OTHER WORDS, UH, THE WAY THAT THE RENDERING THAT I SHOWED YOU DEPICTS, WHICH HAS CABLES AND, AND A GRATE, A METAL GRATE SO THAT IT'S TRANSPARENT AND ALLOWS LIGHT INTO THE GARDEN, IS THAT, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK THE BOARD, UH, EMBRACES OR, OR NOT? SO OBVIOUSLY I CAN SPEAK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND ONLY MY PERSPECTIVE, HOW'S THAT? UM, I THINK MY FIRST IMPRESSION, AND OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE TREES IN FRONT OF THIS, WHEN YOU REPRESENT IT TO US, WE, WE DON'T SEE THE TREES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DRAWINGS, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE LITERALLY THE TREES, LIKE THE, THE SUPERIMPOSITION OF THE TREES BEHIND THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLASHING. [04:35:01] UM, BUT MY FIRST IMPRESSION OF IT WAS IMPOSING, RIGHT? IT'S JUST THIS BIG GLASS WALL. UM, SO FOR ME, EITHER ERROR, A COMBINATION OF, I'M NOT SURE, UM, A REDUCTION IN THAT 10 AND A HALF FEET AND OR A LOWERING OF THAT WALL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MATERIALITY THAT YOU SEE. THAT'S AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU DO GOOD WORK. I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN, LIKE JOHN WAS SAYING, I, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR CLIENT THAT IS, UM, MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE. UM, BUT FOR ME, IT'S NOT THE GLASS WALL RIGHT THERE. AND I, I PICTURE IN MY MIND, NOT QUITE 10 FEET NOT EXTENDING SO FAR OVER THE EXISTING STRUCTURE JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPOSING. BUT YOU MAY COME BACK AND SHOW US SOMETHING IN CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT IS MORE REPRESENTATIVE AND LESS OF A, UM, HARSH EFFECT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT. YEAH. UM, AND I, I, I'M GETTING SOME HEAD NODS AND SOME HEAD SHAKES DOWN THERE, SO I'LL LET THEM SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE. YEAH, I, IT'S HARD TO TELL 'EM TO YOU DO IT. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT TO TAKE THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE BACK BEHIND THE FACADE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. I THINK IT'S, I DON'T CARE WHAT PLANT MATERIALS IN THE FRONT YOU'RE GONNA LOOK UP IN AN EXACT SAME PLANE IS THE HOUSE. I THINK IF YOU PULL THAT BACK AND PUT A MORE TRANSPARENT BALCONY, EVEN IF THE BALCONY PROJECTED IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE WOULD BE MORE ACCEPTABLE, IT'S JUST THAT NOW IT'S NOT DEFERRING TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. IT'S OVERWHELMING IT BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE SAME PLANE, BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE. SO IT'S, AND THERE'S THAT SPACE. BUT I AGREE, THE PLANT MATERIAL'S NOT GONNA FILL THAT. THE ELEVATION IS VERY DECEPTIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER EVER GONNA SEE THAT PLANT MATERIAL. THE PLANT MATERIAL GROWING IN THE COURTYARD BEHIND THE WALL WILL NEVER BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. UH, IT JUST, IT CAN'T EVEN GET TALL ENOUGH TO BE OVER THE STRUCTURE. SO THERE'LL ALWAYS BE THAT STRUCTURE AND FACE WITH THE, THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. I THINK IF IT WERE PUSHED BACK EVEN REMOTELY AND THEN HAD THE BALCONY MORE TRANSPARENT, I THINK THE WHOLE THING WOULD READ BETTER AND NOT FEEL IT'S KILLING THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE OR THE HISTORIC FEELING OF THAT BUILDING. IT'S LOOMING. IT'S LIKE JUST LOOMING OVER LIKE, AH, YOU KNOW? YEAH. THAT'S HOW I FEEL PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THAT. ANY, UH, LIGHTING UNDER THAT BALCONY? YEAH. I MEAN, OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE LIGHTING IN THE GARDEN AND, AND ALSO EVEN TO, TO, UH, REFLECT THERE, THERE IS, UH, FIVE FOOT OF SPACE, UH, BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE SIDEWALK. IF, IF THIS IS THE SIDEWALK WHERE THE CURSOR IS HERE, IF, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT YEP. THIS IS THE SIDEWALK. SO THERE'S ANOTHER FIVE FEET OF, OF PLANTING MM-HMM . THAT WOULD EXIST AS WELL. AND, AND THE STREET TREES, OF COURSE, ARE, UH, SIZABLE IN THIS, IN THIS AREA. SO THEY WOULD ALSO SIT IN FRONT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING. I, I AGREE. YEAH. YOU LIKELY WOULDN'T EVEN, MANY WOULDN'T NOTICE, UH, RIGHT. THE BALCONY BASED ON THE EXISTING TREE SCALE. SO BACK TO THE LIGHTING THAT, THAT'S WITHIN THE, UH, CANTILEVER FACING DOWN, OR IT WOULD, IT WOULD, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T WORKED WITH THE LIGHTING DESIGNER YET OKAY. TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE I COULD GIVE YOU, BUT I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD BE OUR INTENTION TO HAVE THIS LIT APPROPRIATELY AND PROBABLY UP LIT IN A WAY THAT THAT ALLOWS THE, THE FEELING OF THIS THING HOVERING, UH, TO BE THE CASE AT NIGHT AS WELL. YEAH. AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, I MEAN, I'LL MAKE THE POINT THAT IN, IN, IN MY VIEW AS THE DESIGNER, THE IDEAS FOR THIS THING, AND AS YOU VERY WELL POINTED OUT, UH, IT REQUIRES SOME GYMNASTICS TO GET THIS CANTILEVER TO SIT OUT THERE. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE COSTLY. UH, AND MY CLIENT REALIZES THAT, BUT WE, WE THOUGHT IT WAS, I SEE THE STEEL THING A MORE SENSITIVE, YOU'RE RENDERING, YOU KNOW, A MORE SENSITIVE APPROACH BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT IS MORE DOGMATICALLY DONE, WHICH IS HAVING THE NEW ADDITION SIT DIRECTLY OVER THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. RIGHT. AND YEAH, AND FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO COME, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, I KEEP REFERRING TO THESE GUIDELINES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE EASILY FOUND ONLINE. IT'S CALLED BUOYANT CITY, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE STRATEGIES THE CITY HAS APPROVED FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS. UM, AND IT'S JUST, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO A STRATEGY ONE C IT'S CALLED, UM, SORRY, I JUST KNOW THESE GUIDELINES WAY TOO WELL. BUT, UM, FOR, UM, FOR THIS TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WOULD BE A KIND OF A BUILDING WITHIN A BUILDING, AND IT'S A CITY STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS PRESUMABLY TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THE STREETSCAPE IN PARTICULAR, [04:40:01] UM, THAT WE SO CHERISH AS PART AS BEING A CENTRAL FEATURE OF THE DISTRICT WITHOUT, IT'S, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. AND, AND YOU MAY SHAKE YOUR HEAD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS VOTED FOR. SO IF YOU REALLY ARE, ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS OR DON'T WANT THIS, THESE OPTIONS, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ARM YOURSELF WITH THE, WITH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS, AND THEN TALK TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, ABOUT THIS. IF YOU, IF YOU FEEL, BECAUSE IT, IT IS ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO BE FOLLOWED. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS AN EXACT MODEL OF IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS KIND OF WHERE THESE IDEAS COME FROM. THERE'S A BIG BOARD AND WE HAVE BOARD, UH, MAY I, BECAUSE YEAH, AGAIN, LIKE I'M, WE'RE LOOKING EITHER FOR FEEDBACK OR CONSENSUS, RIGHT? FOR SURE. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WAITING THREE MONTHS TO, TO PRESENT TODAY. SO, I MEAN, IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE IN, IN REACHING CONSENSUS, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. IF NOT, I UNDERSTAND. AND, AND WE WILL APPRECIATE COMING BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. I, I WOULD LIKE AS MUCH FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS I CAN GET THOUGH, SO THAT I COME BACK. IF I DO, IF WE DO HAVE TO COME BACK THAT I COME BACK WITH A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, WE DO HAVE A BOARD. CAN YOU PULL IT UP? UH, KEVIN HERE, WHERE IS IT? OH, HERE. WE DO HAVE A BOARD THAT SHOWS, UH, A SOLUTION THAT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT DOES NOT ENCROACH ON THE FRONT AND, AND IS ALIGNED WITH, UH, MAYBE WE CAN PUT AND, AND IS ALIGNED. THIS IS COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH THE HISTORIC BUILDING. IT ALSO IS SOFTENED, I THINK, BY THE FACT THAT IT HAS A WINDOW. THIS OBVIOUSLY HAS NO, UH, THE, THE, IF THERE ANY BALCONY THAT WOULD EXIST WOULD EXIST, UH, WITHIN THE, THESE, UH, LIMITS. IN OTHER WORDS, BEHIND THIS FACADE IS THE MASTER BEDROOM AND A BALCONY THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT AREA. UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT, IT IS, UH, MAYBE, UH, MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT IT'S MUCH SOFTER, MORE TRADITIONAL, I GUESS, IF, IF YOU CAN SAY THAT IN, IN RELATION TO, UH, THIS PROJECT AND, UH, AND HAS, UH, SORT OF A WINDOW. AND YOU SEE IN THE ELEVATION TOO, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE WINDOW AND THE WAY THIS WINDOW IS PATTERNED AND THE WINDOWS IN THE HISTORIC BUILDING BELOW. SO I OFFER THIS AS A WAY TO MAYBE REACH CONSENSUS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN, IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD, UH, ACCEPT AND, AND BE HAPPY WITH, LET'S SAY, UH, AND, AND, AND POSSIBLY IN A WAY THAT IS MORE, UH, UH, ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD. THIS DOES NOT, THIS SITS COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. IT DOES NOT ENCROACH 10 FOOT FORWARD AS WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSING UP UNTIL NOW, THAT IT, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH, WITH THIS, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD. I'LL CHIME IN. JOHN, I, I DON'T HAVE A TRIAL. TWO FOOT BALCONY STEPPED OUT BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? ASK HIM NOTHING. OKAY. RANDY, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? UH, NO, NO, NO. RAY, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? WHAT APPRECIATE ABOUT IT? WE WILL, WE WILL DO THAT. YEAH, WE'LL DO A A, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING GO AHEAD. UH, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING WITH THIS PROPOSAL AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOU APPROACHED IT, QUITE FRANKLY, COMING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO PROPOSE THIS WHEN YOU RED RINGS CLEARLY DID NOT SHOW THE BALCONY. AND I THINK THAT WAS FOR A SPECIFIC REASON, BECAUSE YOU KNEW WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS IT IN THIS MANNER. YOU SAT HERE EARLIER AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M THE ARCHITECT AND YOU'LL APPRECIATE WHAT I DO. AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD TOLD YOU THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THIS PROJECTION THAT YOU INSISTED, AND THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE YOU COME WITH THIS, WE ARE BUILDING 8,500 SQUARE FEET ON THIS LOT. BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ASKED YOU, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD JUST SET IT BACK A BIT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? HE SAID, NO, CAN'T TOO MANY GYMNASTICS. I DON'T, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MY VOTE. RANDY, IS YOUR MIC ON? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SAY SOMETHING, MITCH. NO, I, I WILL [04:45:01] SECOND THAT THOUGH. I, I JUST FEEL IT'S UNFAIR TO BE SPENDING AN HOUR LOOKING AT SOMETHING. AND NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE NEW VERSION? I, I, I CAN'T RESPOND THAT QUICKLY. GOT IT. OKAY. UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OTHERWISE? I DO THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A, A STRAW POLL AT THIS POINT. WE'VE ALREADY GOT TWO QUESTION. YEAH, I GUESS I DON'T NEED A STRAW POLL. . WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE OTHER FIVE, UH, YESES. SO THAT'S WHY DO WE WANT TO REITERATE OUR CONCERNS? OF COURSE YOU CAN. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE OF A STAFF QUESTION REGARDING THE FENESTRATION. ARE YOU OKAY? OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU, YOU INDICATED WITH THE REVISED WITH THE RE REVISED SIGN. YES. YOU, YOU LOST ME. I AGREE. SO YOU SAID WITH THE RE OKAY. WITH THE REISE DESIGN. OH, THE FENCE? NO, THE FENCE. WELL, NO, THE, UH, THE FENCE ON THE FENESTRATION WINDOWS, THE WINDOW, UH, HERE, IT'S GLASS BLOCK BEING PROPOSED AS GLASS BLOCK. I WAS THINKING, UH, INITIALLY SOMETHING MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WAS EXISTING WHEN THE BUILDING OH, FOR THE, FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING. YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE BOARD, UM, PUTTING BACK SOMETHING WITHIN THE EXISTING OPENINGS THAT'S MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW DESIGN, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT, MITCH? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. HE CAME BACK WITH EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED, YOU KNOW, TODAY. CAN YOU GET ON THE MIC? ON THE MIC, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR, OR NEXT MONTH OR THE MONTH AFTER? I THINK, I THINK WE JUST TALK. I, I MEAN, HE'S COMING BACK WITH EXACTLY WHAT I'D ASKED FOR, SO I WOULD HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT. YEAH. I'M NOT SO SURE. I LIKE THE SQUARE WINDOW IN THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT WHERE I WANT IT TO BE, SO IT'S OKAY. LINDSAY, DID YOU BUY THAT SOMETHING? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK ALL WE HAVE HERE IS RENDERING. SO I MEAN, DOES THIS CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, AND, AND I, I BY NO MEANS TRYING TO PULL A, UH, ANYTHING OVER ANYONE, UH, MR. MAYOR, AND, UM, I'M SORRY THAT IT'S PERCEIVED THAT WAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO BOOTH THIS FORWARD. UH, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. WE DID THIS STUDY AT ONE POINT, AND IT, IT, IT WAS A, A POSITION THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD, AND, AND MY CLIENT HAS AGREED TO IT, IT'S A POSITION THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD, UH, ACCEPT IF, UH, THE BOARD FELT STRONGLY THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE, THE, THE PROJECT PROTRUDING BEYOND THE EXISTING HISTORIC FACADE. SO YES, IT'S THE ONLY CHANGE. WELL, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A STRAW POLL. UM, WHETHER WE WOULD ACCEPT THIS WITH THE BUILDING, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'D HAVE TWO VOTES, ONE FOR THE VARIANCE, AND ONE A STRAW POLL FOR THE VARIANCE, AND A STRAW POLL FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UH, A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THANK YOU. SO LET'S JUST GO DO QUICK STRAW POLL. YES, NO, UM, FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, JUST WHETHER THIS DESIGN, NOT THE VARIANCE, NOT THE BACK BACKYARD VARIANCE WHERE YOU THINK WHAT YOU'RE FEELING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. READY? YES. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE BACK. THIS IS NOT THE VARIANCE, THIS IS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE WHOLE OVERALL DESIGN. I, I'D BE A YES. NO, NO, YOU WANT THE LAST TIME? YOU DO. OKAY. SO I'LL BE A YES A'S A STRAW POLL. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, YEAH. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. AND THEN WE KNOW, WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH THE VOTES FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APP APPROPRIATENESS AND WE PROBABLY, WE CAN DO THE VARIANCE, BUT YOU WANNA TRY THE CONTINUE? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE IT ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO. YES, I'D SAY YES. FOR THE VARIANCE. YOU'D SAY YES. FOR THE VARIANCE RAY? YES. FOR THE VARIANCE. NO, NO FOR THE VARIANCE, I'D SAY YES. UH, WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. UH, YES. FOR THE VARIANCE I DO, YES. FOR THE VARIANCE, NO. OKAY. AND NO. OKAY. SO I, I DO THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE YOU KIND OF WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RE REPRESENT THIS. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE, I THINK A, A MORE, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO KIND OF A BETTER, YOU KNOW, YES. WHAT OH, YES, YES, OF COURSE. OF COURSE, OF COURSE. UM, AND THEN A, UM, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, [04:50:01] MAYBE A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, RENDERINGS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SEE IT FROM THE SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE WAY IT LOOKS, BECAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, WITH THE TREES AND THE, WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, THE BRAZILIAN BEAUTY TREES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED. YES. AND I'LL, I'LL GO LINDSAY. SO THAT I, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I AM WHERE I AM ON THIS. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I WOULDN'T APPROVE THIS DESIGN, BUT IT JUST WITH ONE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS VIEWS FROM THE SIDEWALK, SOMETHING ELSE TO SHOW US KIND OF LIKE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE CALAIS IN PLACE. I ASSUME THAT CAN BE DONE. UM, THAT, YEAH, I MEAN, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THOSE WALKING BY, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE, AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED, ARE THERE TO APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE SHADED UM, THE SHADED AREA ON MERIDIAN, BUT ALSO THE BEAUTIFUL A DECO, UM, FACADE, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK. MM-HMM . MITCH, UH, I, I, I'M INTRIGUED BY, UH, YOUR INITIAL, UH, RENDERING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE LARGE, UH, CANTILEVER. I'M WONDER, AND I, UH, UNDERSTAND MY, UH, COLLEAGUES, MANY OF THEM ARE NOT, I'M WONDERING IF THEY'D BE AMENABLE TO A REDUCTION IN THAT DEPTH. UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT THE, UH, GLASS WALL AT, AT ITS, UH, PROPOSED HEIGHT, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. IS THERE A WAY TO SOFTEN IT SO, UH, WE CAN FIND SOME CONSENSUS? UH, YEAH, I THINK I APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU CAN GIVE ME, BECAUSE THE REASON THAT I, UH, HAVE THIS RENDERING THAT I JUST PRESENTED TO YOU IS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR, YOUR, UH, SORT OF, UH, POSITION IF, IF WE DO PULL BACK THE FACADE AND WE ARTICULATE IT IN A WAY THAT IS MORE, UH, I GUESS, UM, UH, TYPICALLY DONE FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, VARIANCE ISSUE, YES. BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO FIND, UH, POSITION THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH AS WELL. UM, BUT I THINK I'M A LITTLE LOST ON, ON THE FRONT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE. HERE'S MY QUESTION. WHY DID YOU MOVE AWAY? YOU SAID YOU'D, YOU'D DONE THIS EXERCISE, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST HANDED TO US, YOU DID IT AND THEN CLEARLY DISCARDED IT IN FAVOR OF THE BALCONY. WELL, WE BELIEVE THE BALCONY IS A BETTER SOL. I BELIEVE THE BALCONY IS A BETTER SOLUTION. OKAY. UM, I, I, WE DID THIS EXERCISE IN THE EVENT THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE HESITATION ABOUT BE BEING PROJECTING BEYOND THE HISTORIC FACADE. OKAY, RAY. AND THEN, I MEAN, IF YOU REALIZE HE STARTED OFF WITH WHAT HE WANTED, THEN HE SHOWED US THE BALCONY WITH JUST THE RAILING AROUND IT. AND, AND WE DIDN'T JUMP ON THAT. AND YOU MENTIONED MAYBE NOTHING. AND SO HE, HE, HE HAD ALL OF THOSE THINGS READY TO, TO HE KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS, HE WANTS TO GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT, THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET A YES FOR. SO THAT'S THE REASON HE WAS PREPARED. AND I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT. THANK, THANK YOU. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT, RAY. WHAT, AND I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU WHEN YOU SAID, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD GONE THROUGH THIS EXERCISE, REJECTED IT, DID A DIFFERENT DESIGN, AND THEN NOW WE'RE BACK HERE. SO I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GET BACK TO LIKE, THE REJECTED DESIGN, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. LIKE, IF I MAY, I I THINK THAT IN ANY DESIGN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, O OWNERS THAT ARE GONNA LIVE THERE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO SEE THINGS. WE ALL ARE AWARE. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE EVEN GOT HERE, STAFF HAD, UH, BROUGHT UP A CONCERN ABOUT THE BALCONY AND THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL. SO WE NEEDED TO CALL IT AN EXERCISE. BUT IT'S A VERY PRACTICAL EXERCISE. IT'S FOR OUR TEAM, THE OWNERS, TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PR WE, SO WE HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THE IDEA IS THAT SOMETIMES YOU, YOU SHARE SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS IS, WE DON'T WANT THIS, THIS, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE HAD LOOKED AT IT OURSELVES. SO I WANT TO JUST TAKE A STEP BACK. NOTHING WAS, NOTHING IS LIKE, OH, WELL HOW ABOUT THIS DESIGN? HOW ABOUT THIS DESIGN? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MEANT TO DO THAT. IT'S MEANT TO EDUCATE BOTH INTERNALLY FIRST AND THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE AND WE FELT WITH STAFF RAISING IT AND WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS IT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THESE AVAILABLE. AND SO THAT YOU CAN BENEFIT FROM THE EXERCISE THAT WE TOOK. I DON'T THINK THAT, NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO ALL OF THESE, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT, [04:55:01] UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, COMPLETELY UP TO US. WE'RE TRYING TO COME TO GET THE GUIDANCE. RANDY, I, I THINK WHEN YOU SHOWED THE BALCONY WITH A TRANSPARENT SECOND FLOOR, IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED. 'CAUSE IT, NOW IT LOOKED LIKE A, A HOUSE FACING THE STREET, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS. THEN YOU PUT THE WALL BACK UP, BUT ONLY IT'S NOT AT THE BRAILLING, IT'S NOW AT THE WALL. I, I WAS RIGHT BACK TO OH, IT'S RIGHT. COMPARE ABSOLUTELY FLAT WITH A HISTORIC STRUCTURE. I THINK IF YOU PULL THE TRANSPARENT WALL BACK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE, PUT THE BALCONY BACK ON, THEN IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A BALCONY FACING THE STREET, WHICH IS A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT IN MIAMI BEACH OF HOUSING FACING STREETS. SO I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED BY THE SOLID WALL. NOW IT'S JUST BACK 10 FEET. IT'S JUST A SOLID WALL AGAIN. AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE THERE'S NO RECOGNITION OF THE STREET AS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT MY DIRECTION. I APPRECIATE MITCH. MITCH, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? SURE. UH, YOU KNOW, THE RENDERING YOU INTRODUCED, WHY NOT ADD, UH, A SECONDARY WINDOW, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE TO LINE UP WITH THE, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING BELOW ALSO, UH, ON THE INITIAL RENDERING, WHY NOT BRING THE CURTAIN WALL FORWARD, UH, WHETHER AT BALCONY, UH, OR HANDRAIL LEVEL OR THE FULL WAY UP? AND OF COURSE SOUNDS LIKE THE CONSENSUS IS TO REDUCE THE DEPTH, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD ARCHITECTURE. WHAT YOU, WHAT WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. AND, UH, I HOPE, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN WE, WHEN WE FINALLY HAVE CONSENSUS, IT SHOULD BE WHEN, NEXT MONTH OR JUNE. WELL, THAT'S THE, THE OTHER QUESTION. IF WE CONTINUE THIS, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TO, UM, WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO, I MEAN, YOU'LL NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. AND THIS RESUBMIT, UM, DECEMBER. WHEN WOULD YOU, DECEMBER WHEN? NO, BUT WHEN WOULD, UM, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO MAKE FOR NOVEMBER, WHEN WOULD YOU NEED EVERYTHING? BY NEXT MONDAY. BY NEXT MONDAY. MONDAY, YEAH. FOR NOVEMBER, MR. CHAIR. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. AND, AND WHAT I WOULD CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE, AS MANY OF YOU, UH, HAVE ALREADY GIVEN ME, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE MULTIPLE, UH, OPTIONS WE'VE PRESENTED, AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE CAN GET FROM YOU, THE, THE, THE BETTER THAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. YEAH. MITCH, ON ONTO THAT POINT, DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE A COMMENT ON THE CABLE RAILING, HAND RAILING SYSTEM VERSUS, UH, AN EXTENDED CURTAIN WALL? WELL, I THINK OUR COLLEAGUE AT THE END HERE SUGGESTED THIS. THE ALTERNATIVE WITH THE, WHAT WE SAW IS LIKE DARKER BALCONY. WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT. BUT THE SAME THING, REDUCED BALCONY. THE LOWER IS, IS THAT, AM I, AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT RANDY? THAT YOU WANT TO REDUCE DEPTH OF THE BALCONY, UM, WITH SOME SORT OF RAILING, UH, TREATMENT, WHATEVER THAT IS, UM, THAT YOU SEE RAIL OR GLASS? SHOULD IT BE THE SAME? SOME SORT OF RAILING TREATMENT? I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS METAL, GLASS, WOOD, YOU KNOW, , UM, THE, THE MATERIALITY. I, I, I MEAN I THINK I, I I TRUST THE ARCHITECT WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION THERE. I THINK IT'S REALLY THE IMPOSING NATURE OF THAT FLAT WALL, WHETHER THAT IS AT, YOU KNOW, THE FAR, UM, AT THE, UH, LEVEL OF THE, OR THE FRONT FACADE OF THE EXISTING HIST, UM, CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, OR WHETHER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, 10 FEET LATER IT, IT, OR 10 FEET FURTHER OUT IS IMPOSING MM-HMM . UM, AND SO SOMETHING THAT KIND OF TO ME SOFTENS IT MM-HMM . UM, UH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, SO, I MEAN, I THINK I'M ALIGNED WITH WHAT RANDY IS SUGGESTING. UM, AND, AND DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MITCH? EXCUSE ME? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MITCH? UH, SORT OF, I HEARD, I HEARD A LITTLE, LITTLE, I HEARD A LOT IN THAT. UH, BUT RANDY SUGGESTED OR SORT OF AGREED THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THE SAME, UH, TREATMENT. TOTALLY. UH, ON YOUR, ON THE, ON THE MIC, THE IDEA IS TRANSPARENCY, NOT, I, I, YOU KNOW, YEAH. JUST NOT, IT CAN BE A RAILING. I DON'T, RAILING DOESN'T REALLY GO WITH THIS BUILDING. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN YOU DESIGN SO FAR. UM, THE COURTYARD'S BEAUTIFUL INSIDE. I, I THINK WHATEVER IS CONSISTENT BUT MORE TRANSPARENT THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE SIDEWALK, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING UP AT A WALL. YES. OKAY. SO WHAT ABOUT A WALL WITH A BALCONY RAILING, UH, CONSTRUCTED OF THE SAME DE DEPENDS WHERE, DEPENDS WHERE IT IS. IT DEPENDS WHERE IT IS IN, IN RELATION TO THE OTHER BUILDING. UH, I LIKE DEEP BALCONIES. I THINK IT LOOKS RICHER. I HATE WHEN NEW HOUSES HAVE FOUR OR FIVE FOOT BALCONIES. IT'S JUST REALLY NOT EVEN USABLE. [05:00:01] A 10 FOOT BALCONY, IT'S FANTASTIC. I LIVED IN A HISTORIC HOUSE WITH GREAT BALCONIES, SO I, I'M NOT AGAINST 10 FEET, I'M JUST AGAINST THE FACT THAT IMPOSES SO MUCH OVER THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON. ALRIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WE'VE, UH, GIVEN PROBABLY ALL THE ADVICE, IF NOT MORE, THAT YOU CAN, UH, HANDLE , UM, ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO I, I GUESS WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, CONTINUING THIS TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AS LONG AS YOU GIVE US, UH, EVERYTHING BY MONDAY. IF NOT, THEN YOU CAN REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE TILL DECEMBER. UM, AFTER, AFTER NEXT MONDAY WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. MOTION. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL NOVEMBER? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYBODY IN DISAGREEMENT? AND THAT'S TO NOVEMBER? YES. TO NOVEMBER 18. 18. AND MICHAEL, FOR CLARIFICATION, WE CAN JUST RESUBMIT OUR REVISE PLANS AND REVISE LETTER OF INTENT. WE DON'T NEED ALL THE REST OF THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS OR DO WE, WE NEED EVERYTHING UNLESS THE BOARD DO YOU NEED, UH, WE NEED EVERYTHING PRINTED AGAIN, UNLESS THE BOARD MEMBERS WANNA PASS YOU BACK THE, UM, APPLICATION DOCUMENTS. SO, SO WE OR THE BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO KEEP YOUR PACKAGES FOR THIS APPLICATION? LIKE MY PACKAGES. WELL, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GIVE THEM BACK TO YOU AND THEN YOU JUST, BUT THEN, I MEAN, OR DO YOU WANNA SAY THESE? I'M TRYING TO SAVE TREES. YEAH. WHAT? YEAH. NO, I MEAN, I'M, I'M WITH THEM ON SAVING TREES. WE HAVE LIKE 14 COPIES THAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT AND IT'S YES, THE STRUCTURAL REPORT, THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS. I WOULD SUGGEST THE BOARD MEMBERS KEEP THEIR PACKAGES. THIS APPLICATION. YEAH. OKAY. AND JUST SUBMIT THE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTATION. OKAY, PERFECT. AND WE'LL KEEP THAT AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEP, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.