* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY. GOOD [00:00:01] MORNING. HAPPY ELECTION DATE, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER FOUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING. UM, WE WILL HAVE A FULL PANEL, BUT ELIZABETH'S A LITTLE LATE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED. UM, [1. October 16, 2025 meeting ] IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 16TH MEETING. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, THOSE ARE APPROVED. NOW WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ES. THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, TODAY'S MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT'S STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN TODAY'S MEETING, THE PUBLIC CAN DIAL 1-877-853-FIVE 2 5 7 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 6 1 4 3 4 2 6 3 2 7 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 6 1 4 3 4 2 6 3 2 7. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, YOU CAN CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IN THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING. IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUMENT AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. LASTLY, [SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC] I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANYONE WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY, INCLUDING STAFF. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. THANKS NICK. OKAY, [2 PB25-0765. 1600 Washington Ave – CD-3 Urban Core Residential Plan, Land Development Regulations Amendments] [3 PB25-0766. 1600 Washington Ave - Urban Core Residential Incentives Plan Comprehensive Plan Amendment] THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE OF THE WITHDRAWALS, THE FIRST IS PLANNING BOARD FILED 25 0 7 65 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE, DEB. UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. AND THERE'S A, A COMPANION APPLICATION AS WELL, WHICH IS PLANNING BOARD 25 0 7 6 5. UM, SO THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE, UH, 7, 6 6 IS THE COMPANION. YEAH, CORRECT. 7, 6 6 AND 7 6 5 ARE THE TWO ITEMS. UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING. UM, WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SCHEDULE THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKSHOP, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT. SO BECAUSE NOVEMBER, UH, OCTOBER AND AND NOVEMBER ARE BUSY MONTHS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER. OKAY. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS SPEAKING ON THIS HERE? NO. ANYONE ON ZOOM? OKAY. UH, CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. ANYON, I'M JUST HERE, UH, MR. HAS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UH, CON UH, CONCURRING WITH WHAT, UH, DEBBIE SAID. OKAY. UM, ANY DISCUSSIONS? I WANNA MOVE IT. I'LL MOVE IT. MOVE. OKAY. CAN. ALRIGHT, SO YOU, YOU'LL SECOND IT. ELIZABETH MOVED IT. I MOVED IT. OH, MELISSA MOVED IT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. MOVE TO DECEMBER. NEXT IS PLANNING BOARD FILE [4 PB25-0779 a.k.a. PB17-0108 a.k.a. PB 2032, 1545 Collins Avenue.] 25 0 7 7 9 FOR, UH, 1545 COLLINS AVENUE. AND THIS APPLICATION, UM, IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE AS WELL TO THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING. THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO, UM, REACH OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND HAVE MORE SUBSTANTIVE MEETINGS WITH THEM AS THEY HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS, UM, PRIOR TO COMING BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD. SO AT THIS POINT, UH, STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE DECEMBER 9TH, UH, REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE. OKAY. ANYONE IN CHAMBERS SPEAK ON THIS, SIR? JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR AFFILIATION WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. SURE. GOOD MORNING NICK NODO ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT OFFICE OF 1450 BRICKELL AVENUE. UM, WE ARE MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEET PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS WITH THEM. WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO SO, SO WE REQUEST CONTINUANCE OF DECEMBER 9TH. OKAY. ANYONE ON ZOOM? NO. NO. OKAY. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY, I'LL SECOND IT. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL THANK YOU. SEE YOU IN DECEMBER. OKAY. PROGRESS [5. PB24-0715. 1800, 1810, & 1818 Michigan Ave, and 1039 18th Street – Single Family Home Lot Split] REPORTS PLANNING BOARD FILED 24 0 7 5, UM, 1810 [00:05:01] AND 1818 MICHIGAN AVENUE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SPLIT. UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. YES, THIS IS A PROGRESS REPORT DUE TO, UH, CODE COMPLI, CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS, AND NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE LOT SPLIT APPROVAL. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JAKE TO PROVIDE, UH, A STAFF SUMMARY. THANK YOU, DEBBIE. UM, TO RECAP, LAST YEAR THE BOARD APPROVED A LOT SPLIT FOR THE SITE AND EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE APPLICANT RECEIVED TWO VIOLATIONS FOR FENCING AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1800 MICHIGAN AVENUE, WHICH CONTAINS AN EXISTING HOME. IN AUGUST, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SENT A, SENT A SECURE LETTER TO THE APPLICANT AND SCHEDULED A PROGRESS REPORT FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. AT THAT MEETING, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY HAD A PENDING HPB APPLICATION FOR THE HOME AND THE BOARD CONTINUED THE PROGRESS REPORT TO TODAY PENDING THE OUTCOME AT THE HPB. THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH HPB MEETING, INCLUDING THE RETENTION AND RESTORATION OF THE GARAGE, PORTION OF THE EXISTING HOME, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ATTACHED TWO STORY ADDITION. AS PART OF THE APPROVAL, THE HPB INCLUDED A CONDITION REQUIRING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR FENCING TO BE ISSUED WITHIN 90 CALENDAR DAYS OF THE APPROVAL AND INSTALLATION NO LATER THAN 120 DAYS, MEANING THAT A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING MUST BE ISSUED BY DECEMBER 15TH AND INSTALLATION BY JANUARY 14TH OF NEXT YEAR. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD HERE UPDATES FROM THE APPLICANT AND FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND CONTINUE THE PROGRESS REPORT TO THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING AT WHICH TIME STAFF CAN REPORT BACK REGARDING THE APPLICANT'S PROGRESS. MICKEY, GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MICKEY MARRERO, 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. AS JAKE SAID WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, WE HAD A PENDING HPB ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT THEY HAVE RETAINED A CONTRACTOR. QUALITY CONSTRUCTION PERFORMANCE INC. IS A CONTRACTOR. NOT ONLY ARE THEY GONNA DO THE FENCING, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS PROGRESS REPORT, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA DO THE SEAWALL CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WON'T BE DONE IN A COUPLE MONTHS, BUT IS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS ON. UM, WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WE EXPECT THE, THE CONTRACTORS ALREADY WORKING IN GETTING THE DEFENSE PERMIT. WE EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE BY THE DEADLINE. UH, SO WE'RE, EVERYTHING'S UNDERWAY. WE GOT OUR APPROVAL, WE'VE GOT CONTRACTOR ON BOARD, UH, TO DO THE FENCE, WHICH WILL BE DONE BY DECEMBER 15TH. AND THE SEA WALL, WHICH IS NOT DISCUSSED IN THIS REPORT, BUT ALSO A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE'LL BE DONE BY SOMETIME NEXT YEAR. SO AGAIN, WE'RE OKAY WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO COME BACK IN JANUARY. BY THEN, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO TEAR YOU THE FENCES UP AND, AND WE'RE COMPLIANCE AND THEY'VE CURED THE PROBLEMS THAT YES. ARE THE SUBJECT OF THE VIOLATION. YES. YES. OKAY. YOU DO HAVE THE PERMIT, RIGHT? THEY'VE HIRED THE, WE GOT THE HPB APPROVAL ABOUT A MONTH AGO. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR, THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT YET, BUT DURING THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PERMIT OKAY. AND ONCE AND DEFENSE PERMITS AREN'T THE MOST COMPLICATED, SO WE EXPECT IT TO BE ISSUED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND UP IN BY DECEMBER. IT'S JUST A MESS. I VERY WELL AWARE. LEAVE ME. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ELSE ARE SPEAKING ON THIS? ANYBODY ON ZOOM? WE DO HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ZOOM. UH, JOHN COURTNEY. GOOD MORNING, JOHN. HELLO, NEIL. HEAR ME? YES. NOW WE CAN. THANKS. YES. SEEMS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR, UH, THANKS TO MICKEY FOR, UH, MAKING SOME PROGRESS HERE. UH, I WILL POINT OUT TO THE BOARD THAT, UM, THESE FOUR ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE UP FOR SALE, UM, AND PRICED FOR, UH, A LARGER PROJECT. SO THIS IS GONNA BE A, A VERY LONG EXTENDED PROCESS AND THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SIT VACANT, UH, FOR, FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. AND SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S SORT OF CONTINUED OVERSIGHT AND THAT THESE PROBABLY CONTINUE TO BE MAINTAINED IN A SAFE, UM, A SAFE MANNER FOR THE COMMUNITY. UH, BUT I APPRECIATE THE PROGRESS BEING MADE. THANK YOU. UM, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? ARE YOU IN PROXIMITY THERE? I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET. 10 26 18TH STREET. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. NOT ANYONE ELSE ON ZOOM? OKAY. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SOMEONE WANNA MOVE IT? SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO THE JANUARY 20, JANUARY 6TH HEARING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. OKAY. SECOND, SECOND, ELIZABETH. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE YOU IN UH, JANUARY. THANK YOU. ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY. SURE. WE'LL SEE YOU BEFORE THEN. . OKAY. UH, NEW APPLICATION [6. PB25-0784, 120 MacArthur Causeway] IS PLANNING BOARD FILED 25 0 7 84 1 20. MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY. OKAY. I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU NEED TO, THAT EVERY I'M HAVING PASSED OUT. OKAY. YEAH. AND BEFORE DEBBIE STARTS, UH, ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS ONE? I'VE TALKED TO, I HAD A PHONE CALL FROM THESE. OKAY. SCOTT? NO, JONATHAN. I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH, UH, MR. KADEN. MICHELLE? NO, I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MR. KADEN. SAME. SAME. [00:10:01] OKAY. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. UH, SO THIS IS, UH, ONE 20 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY. THERE IS AN APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT LOT. SO THIS IS WITHIN, LOCATED WITHIN THE I ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UH, WITHIN THIS DISTRICT, ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS LOCATED ON A PROPERTY, UM, THAT EXCEEDS 20,000 SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO IT'S SOMEWHAT UNIQUE TO THE I ONE ZONING DISTRICT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING TO, TO CONSTRUCT, UM, FOUR BUILDINGS AND NINE BOAT SLIPS AS PART OF A PRIVATELY OWNED NON COMMERCIALIZED MARINA. UM, WHICH WILL ALSO HAVE OFFICES, UM, BUT AGAIN, PRIVATE OFFICE, NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM, ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROPOSED ALONG TERMINAL ISLAND. UH, THE TERMINAL ISLAND ACCESS ROAD. UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT DID CONCLUDE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICULAR TRIPS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING USE WAS QUITE SIMILAR. IT HAD EIGHT BOAT SLIPS, WAS THE CITY APPROVED USE PLUS OFFICE SPACE. UM, SO THERE WAS REALLY CO NO COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE AT THE TIME. CORRECT. SO THERE'S REALLY NO ANTICIPATED NET INCREASE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. THEN WHAT THE PREVIOUS USE, UM, WAS OF FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY, THEY ARE PROVIDING UP TO NINE, UM, MOORING LOCATIONS FOR VESSELS, BUT THEY HAVE, UH, INDICATED THAT THEY ANTICIPATE APPROXIMATELY THREE TO SIX TO BE, UH, MOORED ON THE SITE. UH, MOST OF THE TIME, UM, THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION ANTICIPATED ARE 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM THEY ARE PROPOSING UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 10 PERMANENT STAFF MEMBERS PER SHIFT. THOSE STAFF MEMBERS WILL OCCUPY THE GATEHOUSE AND THE MARINA OPERATIONS BUILDING. THERE IS A MARINA PAVILION, UM, THAT IS FOR THE SOLE USE OF THE, UH, OF THE YACHT CREW. UH, DURING THEIR TIME OFF. THERE'S ALSO AN OWNER'S PAVILION, UH, WHICH IS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE OWNER IN, IN HIS GUESTS. UM, DELIVERIES ARE PROPOSED BETWEEN 10:00 AM AND 4:00 PM AND, UH, REFUSE, UH, COLLECTION IS PROPOSED FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS PER WEEK. UM, STAFF IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY INCREASE IN INTENSITY. IN FACT, UM, THERE WAS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT THAT HAD A MUCH MORE INTENSE USE IN TERMS OF, UH, IMPACT ON THE CITY'S LEVEL OF SERVICE. UM, SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THIS PROPERTY HAVING ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE OPERATIONS AT TERMINAL ISLAND OR, OR TRAFFIC. UM, WE ARE CONCERNED, HOWEVER, ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED IN THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HOST SPECIAL EVENTS ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY WITH UP TO 300 PEOPLE. UM, THAT IS A CONCERN PRIMARILY BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALREADY VERY CHALLENGED INTERSECTION DURING HIGH IMPACT PERIODS. I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY ALL BEEN BEEN STUCK, UM, IN THIS AREA, UM, DURING ART BASEL AND IN OTHER, UM, LARGE EVENTS. SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT AT THIS POINT, THAT THE PLANNING BOARD NOT AUTHORIZE THE SPECIAL EVENTS. UM, SO WE HAVE A CONDITION IN, IN THE RECOMMENDED DRAFT ORDER TO THAT EFFECT AND THAT THE APPLICANT RETURN TO THIS BOARD WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION INCLUDING, UM, THE PER, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOW MANY EVENTS THEY WILL HAVE, HOW MANY EVENTS WILL BE DURING SPECIAL, UM, HIGH IMPACT PERIODS, UH, SECURITY PLAN, QUEUING PLAN FOR VEHICLES. IF, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ARRIVING HERE IN, YOU KNOW, 300 PEOPLE IN VEHICLES, UH, DURING A, A HIGH IMPACT TIME, THAT COULD CAUSE A, A BACKUP. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO, LEMME INTERRUPT YOU ONE SECOND, DEBORAH. SO WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE APPLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT, DO THEY NOT GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE CITY? THEY DO. UM, THAT IS A PROCESS. UM, BUT I THINK WHEN, WHEN WE EVALUATED THE IMPACT OF THIS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE, THE VERY DIFFICULT CONGESTED INTERSECTION THAT IT'S LOCATED AT, WE THOUGHT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND AND PER PERHAPS PLACE LIMIT LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS PER PER CALENDAR YEAR OR THE TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE, WHERE THE SPECIAL EVENTS COULD, COULD BE HAPPENING. UM, BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD, I BELIEVE, HAS DONE THAT IN OTHER SITUATIONS. UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY PROHIBITING SPECIAL EVENTS. RIGHT. AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF ALLOWING SPECIAL EVENTS HERE, BUT JUST RESTRICTING IT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, UM, AT LEAST INITIALLY TO SEE. OKAY. KEEP GOING. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU GUYS. ARE YOU FINISHED? OKAY, NEESON. [00:15:02] GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD NEESON, CADEN AND CECILIA TORRES, TOLEDO OF AKERMAN, LLP REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH ME HERE AS WELL. TODAY IS DAN MOORE, WHO IS THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE MARINA. GABRIELLE CAMPUZANO, THE PROJECT ARCHITECT, CHRISTOPHER CAULEY, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND CORY DOMAN, OUR TRANS OR OUR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT ENGINEER. UM, LET ME TEE THIS UP HERE IF I CAN. THERE WE GO. I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR. THE TERMINAL ISLAND, WHERE THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED. UH, THE, UH, INHABITANTS OF THAT ISLAND ARE TWO FERRIES FOR FISHER ISLAND, ONE ON THE WEST END, WHICH IS USED FOR, UH, RESIDENTS AND GUESTS. ANOTHER ON THE EAST END, WHICH IS THEIR SERVICE AND COMMERCIAL FERRY WITH THEIR PARKING GARAGE. OUR PROPERTY IS ALSO BOUND ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE CITY OF MIAMI, BEACH'S MAINTENANCE YARD AND, UH, REPAIR FACILITY. AND THEN THERE'S A FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT SUBSTATION ON THE ISLAND. THIS ISLAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INDUSTRIAL USE. JUST TO REFRESH PEOPLE'S MEMORY OF WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED AND USED ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DECADES, IT WAS A CONTAINER PORT, UH, FOR FREIGHT BEING FREIGHTED IN FROM AROUND THE CARIBBEAN AND ELSEWHERE. HUNDREDS OF CONTAINERS WOULD BE DEPOSITED THERE, TAKEN OFF, ET CETERA. THERE WAS THEN A PROPOSAL TO PUT RESIDENTIAL USES THERE, UH, INCLUDING, UH, HEIGHT INCREASE OF A SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT INCREASE THAT WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED AND WAS OPPOSED BY THE COAST GUARD. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THIS BOARD AND BY THE, UH, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD OF AN OFFICE COMPLEX THERE WITH 160,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE PLUS A RESTAURANT AS WELL. I WOULD NOTE, AND WE'LL DEAL MORE WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER, THAT THE CHA TRAFFIC GENERATION FROM THAT ONE USE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED, PEAK TRAFFIC WAS APPROXIMATELY 250 OR SO TRIPS PER HOUR THAT THIS PROPOSED USE HAS ABOUT ONE TO TWO TRIPS, PEAK TRIPS PER HOUR. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN EVENT, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ARE LESS THAN THE PEAK TRIPS. WHAT WAS AL OF WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THIS SITE. AND THE REASON I BRING THIS ALSO TO YOUR ATTENTION IS OF ALL THE PROPOSALS FOR THIS SITE THAT HAVE BEEN COME FORWARD, THIS IS THE LEAST INTENSE, THE MOST SECURE. IT WILL NOT BE HAVING HUNDREDS OF OUTSIDERS AND GUESTS AND VISITORS. IT WILL NOT BE HAVING SHIPS COMING IN AND OUT. IT'S CERTAINLY THE MOST SECURE FOR THE COAST GUARD BASE AND IT INTERFERES THE LEAST WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND. LET ME PULL OUT A LITTLE BIT. YOU CAN SEE NOT ONLY IS TERMINAL ISLAND, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS BORDERED ACROSS THE CANAL BY ACROSS THE, UH, CHANNEL BY PORT MIAMI AND STANDS SOME 1500 OR SO FEET FROM STAR ISLAND OVER 2000 FEET FROM SOUTH POINT. THERE ARE NO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES FOR THIS FACILITY. LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE EXISTING, THIS IS THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY. IT'S AN IRREGULAR, UH, LEESHA SITE WITH A LOT OF WATERFRONT, OBVIOUSLY, AND A LONG DRIVE THAT GOES FROM TERMINAL ISLAND DRIVE INTO THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IN MORE DETAIL, IS TO DEVELOP A PRIVATE MARINA FACILITY. I THINK YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE PRINCIPAL OWNER OF THIS IS, UH, KEN GRIFFIN AND HIS FAMILY INTERESTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WELL THAT MR. GRIFFIN IS BUILDING HIS RESIDENCE ON STAR ISLAND, UH, AND ALSO THAT, UH, THAT STAR ISLAND CANNOT ACCOMMODATE VESSELS OF THE DRAFT THAT ARE REQUIRED. AND SO THEREFORE, THIS HAS ALMOST BECOME AN EXTENSION OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE HIS LARGER BOATS CAN BE BIRTHED. UH, IT ALSO GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT MR. GRIFFIN HAS BEEN SINGULARLY AN EXTRAORDINARY INVESTOR IN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE LEADING PHILANTHROPIST IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE FACILITY, UH, GABRIEL WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH. IT HAS FOUR SMALL BUILDINGS, ONE IN ENTRANCE BUILDING, ANOTHER, UH, A PAVILION THAT WILL BE USED PERMIT PRINCIPALLY BY THE CREW, AND THEN THE OWNER'S PAVILION, AND THEN A SERVICE BUILDING. WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT IN A MINUTE. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH BRIEFLY THE MARINA OPERATIONS SUMMARY. UH, DEBBIE REVIEWED IT AS A 24 7 HOUR OPERATION WITH A PEAK BETWEEN [00:20:01] 7:00 AM AND 6:00 PM THE MARINA STAFF, THERE'LL BE A, A MAXIMUM 10 PERMANENT MARINA EMPLOYEES PER SHIFT. UH, THE CREW WILL DEPEND UPON THE VESSELS, BUT THE CREWS WILL LIVE ABOARD THE VESSELS. UH, WHEN THEY'RE DOCKED THERE, FIVE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED. WHEN YOU SAY VESSELS, HOW MANY WILL THIS, HOW MANY BOATS OR VESSELS IT'S GONNA ACCOMMODATE? UH, IT CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO NINE AND, BUT I THINK AT THIS TIME WE'RE CONTEMPLATING FOUR VESSELS TO BE DOCKED THERE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, PARKING FIVE SPACES ARE REQUIRED. WE'RE PROVIDING 11 PARKING SPACES. WE HAVE MADE PROVISIONS, OF COURSE, FOR TRASH COLLECTION AND DELIVERIES, AND THERE WILL BE 24 7 SECURITY, WHICH BY THE WAY WILL BE THE, PROBABLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY'S FACILITY NEXT DOOR, AS WELL AS AS THE COAST GUARD, AS WELL AS THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY GARAGE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE 24 7 SECURITY ON THIS SITE. UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AFTER, UH, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TWEAK IN TERMS OF THE BOARD'S, UH, UH, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT AT THIS TIME, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO GABRIEL CAMPUZANO TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE, UH, PLAN ITSELF. THANK YOU, DENISE. UH, GOOD MORNING. I'M GABRIEL CAMPANO. I REPRESENT BMA ARCHITECTS. WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF RECORDS FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, SO AS NEESON WAS SAYING, THIS CAMPUS, UH, SORRY, THIS PROJECT WAS CONCEIVED AS A CAMPUS WITH FOUR DIFFERENT STRUCTURES, UM, THAT ARE ORGANIZED IN A WAY THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A VERY LOW IMPACT AND VERY LOW FOOTPRINT PROJECT. THE OPEN AREA IS WAY BIGGER THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED. UH, AND STARTING WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN POINT, BUT, UH, AS YOU WILL SEE, THERE IS A MAIN DRIVE THAT, UH, ORGANIZES ALL THE PROJECT. UH, AND THE INTENTION HERE IS THAT ALONG THAT MAIN DRIVE, THERE'S ALWAYS A VIEW TO THE, TO THE OCEAN. THE, THE, THE VIEWS TO THE OCEAN ARE NEVER BLOCKED. AND THERE IS A CENTRAL ELEMENT LANDSCAPING ELEMENT ON THAT TRIANGLE THAT YOU SEE THAT IS GOING TO ORGANIZE HOW ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE, UH, RELATE TO EACH OTHER. UH, THE, THE, THE FIRST BUILDING THAT WE WILL ENCOUNTER AS WE ENTER THE, THE, THE FACILITY IS, UH, THE GATEHOUSE, WHICH IS THE ONE ON THE TOP LEFT OVER THERE. THAT, UH, BUILDING IS THE, THE PURPOSE OF THAT BUILDING IS TO HOST SECURITY, UH, PERSONNEL, ALL THE TRASH, UH, RECOLLECTION. AND, UH, AND, AND, UH, DISPOSITION IS OVER THERE WITH RE REFRIGERATED TRASH AS WELL. THERE IS A GENERATOR, GENERATOR ROOM FOR THAT WILL WORK FOR THE ENTIRE SITE IF, IF NEEDED. AND THERE ARE SOME GUESTS, UH, PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT WE ARE PLACING OVER THERE, UH, AS, AS YOU OH OH. AND ALSO THAT, THAT IS A ONE STORY, UH, BUILDING AS WELL. UH, AND AS YOU GO ALONG THAT MAIN DRIVE, YOU WILL ENCOUNTER WHAT WE CALL TWO PAVILIONS. ONE PAVILION IS FOR THE STAFF, THE CREWS, UH, THE CREW FROM THE BOATS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE, UH, WHEN THEY'RE OFF. AND, AND THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS SPACE. UH, THE PROGRAM THAT IT HOSTS IS BASICALLY AMENITIES FOR THE STAFF. UH, IN, IN THE FIRST FLOOR IS A LOUNGE AREA WITH SOME, UH, BATHROOMS AND KITCHENETTE. AND THEN ON THE SECOND LEVEL, WE HAVE A GYM FOR THE, FOR THE CREW AS WELL. AND ON THE THIRD LEVEL, THERE IS A ROOFTOP WITH A POOL AND SOME LUNCH AREAS AS WELL. UH, THIS IS A SECTION THROUGH THAT BUILDING. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S THE TALLEST BUILDING. IT'S, UH, 46 FEET HIGH, AND IT'S SITTING ON A PODIUM THAT IS SHARING WITH THE OTHER PAVILION. THE OTHER PAVILION IS, UH, FOR THE OWNER'S USE AND HIS FAMILIES FOR HIS PRIVATE USE. IT, IT ALSO HAS A PRIVATE POOL. AND, UH, IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT, UH, IN THE, IN THE GROUND FLOOR, IT HAS LOUNGE AREAS AS WELL THAT ARE BEING GOING TO BE CONNECTED WITH EXPANSIVE LACING TOWARDS THE POOL AND TOWARDS THAT, UH, MAIN COURTYARD THAT IS LOCATED BETWEEN THE TWO PAVILIONS. IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE, ON THE NORTH, NORTH OF THE PAGE. ON THE SECOND LEVEL, THERE IS AN OFFICE SPACE AND, AND, AND GA UH, AND ART GALLERY, UH, FOR HIS USE. THIS IS A SECTION THROUGH THAT BUILDING. UM, AND THEN THE FINAL, UH, BUILDING, THE FOURTH BUILDING IS AN OPERATIONS BUILDING. IS IT IS DEVOTED MAINLY FOR, UH, THE OPERATIONS OF THE MARINA IN THE GROUND FLOOR. THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME LOADING AREAS. SOME WORK, UH, SOME SHOPS. SO, SO THEY CAN, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE. AND THEN IN THE SECOND LEVEL, SOME OFFICES FOR, UH, THE CREW. SORRY, FOR THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE WORKING [00:25:01] SPECIFICALLY ON THEM ON THE MARINA. IT IS A TWO LEVEL, UH, UH, BUILDING AS WELL. HERE'S A LANDSCAPE, UH, PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WE HAVE OUR, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE THAT COULD, UH, GO A LITTLE DEEPER HERE. BUT I GUESS THE, THE MAIN, THE MAIN, UM, IDEA HERE IS TO, TO HAVE THAT MAIN ROAD WITH TALL TREES THAT ARE GOING TO, TO BE LINING UP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE O OF THE, OF THE ROAD. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME VERY OPEN AREAS FOR LANDSCAPING. AND, UH, AS I SAID, THE UM, THE OPEN AREA, UH, IS, IS MUCH, UH, BIGGER THAN, THAN IT, THAN IT IS REQUIRED. THIS IS THE WAY, UH, THIS IS HOW THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS LOOK. UH, THEY ARE, THERE'S, UH, AN ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE THAT TIE THE FOUR BUILDINGS. UH, THEY ARE MADE OF STONE OF A VERY CONTEMPORARY AND YET TIMELESS ARCHITECTURE, I WOULD SAY WITH EXPANSIVE ROOFS THAT ARE GOING TO PROTECT THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS FROM THE ELEMENTS FROM THE SUN AND THE RAIN. AND THIS IS A VIEW THAT WE CAN SEE FROM THE SIDE OF THE COAST GUARD. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A VERY LOW IMPACT, UM, PROJECT, UH, WHERE LANDSCAPING TAKES MOSTLY THE LEAD ROLE HERE. THIS IS A VIEW, UH, FROM THE WATER, UH, TO INTO THE, THE, UM, MAIN PAVILION, THE, THE OWNER'S PAVILION. YOU CAN SEE THE POOL THERE AND HOW THE THREE BUILDINGS ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER AND ARE CONNECTED THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING. UM, I THINK THAT'S IT, UNLESS THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU GABRIEL. UH, MR. CHIP, WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES. I'D LIKE TO JUST DEAL WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS, UH, BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THEM AND SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS. UM, NUMBER ONE, CONDITION 2D OF THE PROPOSED ORDER PROHIBITS OUTDOOR SPEAKERS AND TVS. OBVIOUSLY WE'D REQUEST THAT THAT BE ELIMINATED, THAT IT IS UNNECESSARILY RESTRICTIVE AND WE WOULD BE BOUND BY ANY, UH, NOISE ORDINANCES OR REGULATIONS. THERE IS, AS I SAY, THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITHIN PROBABLY 1500 FEET OR MORE OF THIS SITE. UH, AND IN FACT, WHEN THIS BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION GARAGE, UH, THE, UH, CONDITION WAS THAT IT COULD NOT BE HEARD SOUNDS, COULD NOT BE HEARD IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WHICH WOULD BE SOUTH POINT. MM-HMM . OR, UM, OR, OR, OR, UH, STAR ISLAND. SO WE'D LIKE TO ELIMINATE THAT CONDITION, NUMBER ONE. THAT'S TWO. DIG. CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? UH, DEB, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE BASIS WAS FOR COMPLETE PROHIBITION THERE? YEAH, SO WHILE THERE IS, UM, THERE'S NOT A, UH, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN, IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY A TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING AT THE COAST GUARD STATION. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SLEEP THERE AND LIVE THERE. UM, IN THE FACILITIES AT THE COAST GUARD STATION, UM, ENTERTAINMENT LEVEL SOUND IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE I ONE AT ALL. UM, AND I THINK WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PLAYING LOUD MUSIC OUTSIDE, UM, OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. WHAT, AND INTERRUPTING. WHAT ABOUT AMBIENT? OR, OR IT'S NOT PERMITTED? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH ENTERTAINMENT'S NOT PERMITTED, BUT AMBIENT MUSIC WOULD BE, YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOUR BASIS. OKAY. YOU'RE ASKING FOR AMBIENT SPEECH? YES. WE WILL BE, UH, CODE COMPLIANT. UH, SO I DIDN'T KNOW THE, EVEN ON A SPECIAL EVENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ASK US TO AUTHORIZE MARSHALL AMPS AND A BAND . WE DON'T APPROVE THIS. WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, LATER, BUT NO, THIS IS JUST FOR REGULAR USE. IN OTHER WORDS, HE MUST HAVE AN OUTDOOR TV OR SPEAKER AT AMBIENT LEVEL. AT AMBIENT LEVEL, YEAH. OKAY. IT SHOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED. THAT'S CONDITION ONE. RIGHT. BUT, BUT WE, I NEED TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. SO YOU WOULD WANT THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SPEAKERS AND TELEVISION AT AMBIENT LEVELS? YES. YEAH. 'CAUSE AMBIENT ISN'T MENTIONED. AND WOULD, WOULD YOU SOME TOO DEEP, I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AFTER, BUT IN, IN TERMS OF THE SIZING OF THE, THE TVS, I MEAN, I, I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOUSE ON STAR ISLAND THAT HAS THIS HUGE SCREEN, I GUESS IT'S SORT OF INSIDE THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY NOTICEABLE OR APPARENT TO PEOPLE PASSING BY AND TO THE BUILDINGS ON BELL ISLE. AND SO I GUESS ONE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY PLANNING, IS IT JUST NORMAL SIZED TVS OR, WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THE DESIGN, BUT UNDERSTAND IT'S, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER'S PRIVATE MARINA, YOU'LL WANT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A TV, YOU MAY WANT SOME SPEAKERS, UH, MAYBE WANNA WATCH A FOOTBALL GAME, THINGS OF THAT SORT. UH, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WHERE ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE, THEY'RE BASICALLY COMPLETELY [00:30:01] SECRETED FROM ANY PUBLIC VIEW. REMEMBER, THEY'RE DEEP INTO THE PROPERTY AND THE BORDER TO THE SOUTH IS THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE YARD, UH, AND FACILITY AND THE BORDER TO TO THAT IS TO THE WEST RATHER. AND TO THE, TO THE EAST IS THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY GARAGE. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU HAD A LARGE TV, IT WOULDN'T, UH, BOTHER ANYBODY. UH, IF I MAY, THEN THE, UH, THE OTHER, THE NEXT CONDITION THAT WE WANT TO DEAL WITH IS AN OUTRIGHT PROHIBITION ON ENTERTAINMENT. WE BELIEVE THAT ENTERTAINMENT IS ALLOWED, UH, UH, THROUGH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT ONLY. AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION 12 DASH FIVE SPECIAL EVENTS, PERMITS OF THE CITY CODE. WAIT, WAIT, WHICH CONDITION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW? TWO. I SHOULD FOLLOW TWO G. TWO G, I'M SORRY. OH, GOT, GOT IT. GO AHEAD. SORRY. LET FINISH PRESENTING. SO IN OTHER WORDS, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU WANT THAT TO BE ELIMINATED SO THAT YOU CAN AT LEAST OBTAIN IT THROUGH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT? TWO H TWO H IS THE SPECIAL EVENT CONDITION WE WANT TO, RIGHT. UH, UH, AND THAT IS A CONDITION WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE MODIFIED AS WELL. BUT ENTERTAINMENT, THERE'S A SEPARATE CONDITION, TWO G, WHICH SAYS PROHIBITS ENTERTAINMENT. SO ALL WE ARE SAYING IS THAT IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED AS ALLOWED BY CODE. IF IT'S ALLOWED, FINE. IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED, FINE. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT BE THAT SORRY, YOU'RE SAYING AS ALLOWED PER CODE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SPECIAL EVENT? YES, EXACTLY. OKAY. EXACTLY. AND YOU KNOW, AND WE BELIEVE, UH, THE CITY CODE, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AS THE CITY CODE ITSELF SAYS A SPECIAL EVENT IS DEFINED AS A TEMPORARY USE ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED GENERALLY OR WITHOUT RESTRICTION THROUGHOUT A PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT, BUT WOULD BE PERMITTED IF CONTROLLED WITH SPECIAL REVIEW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION. THAT'S THE CITY CODE. SO WE'RE SAYING WE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT IN CONNECTION WITH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPROVED BY THE CITY. WHAT YOU READ DIDN'T SAY ENTERTAINMENT, YOU JUST SAID IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. ARE YOU LIMITING ENTERTAINMENT TO INSIDE ONLY ARE THESE GRASSY KNOLL AREAS WITH 300 PEOPLE, YOU COULD HAVE A PARTY OUTSIDE. WELL, FOR SPECIAL, I, I CAN'T SAY AS TO SPECIAL 'CAUSE THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH. I CAN'T SAY AS TO SPECIAL EVENTS, MR. MARKS. WELL THEN YOU'RE NOT READY TO NARROW THIS DOWN BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS OPENING IT COMPLETELY UP WHOLE THROTTLE. NO, YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN HAVE, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST LET SPECIAL EVENTS DETERMINE IF IT'S OUTSIDE, INSIDE MIDNIGHT PLAYING WITH A BAND OUTSIDE AND, AND 300 PEOPLE, LIKE IT'S A PARTY. THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S A NARROW WAY. BUT THAT IF, IF, I MEAN, BUT THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS IS TO, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY AND GET APPROVALS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS WE'RE THEY COULD GREENLIGHTED IT. SO WHERE'S THE RESIDENTS LEFT THEN? WELL, HERE'S THE OTHER THING. UH, WE CAN'T, AND, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE A CONDITION THAT THERE CAN BE NO SOUND EMANATING FROM THE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT THAT WOULD BE AUDIBLE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONED DISTRICT BECAUSE THERE'S SO FAR AWAY THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WOULD BE A CONDITION THAT WE COULD ALWAYS LIVE WITH. WHAT ABOUT WHAT THE COAST GUARD HAS COAST GUARD? HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COMMANDANT? DOES HE WANT PARTY AT 10:00 AM THE COAST GUARD? OR, OR NIGHT? LET HIM FINISH. GO AHEAD. YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COAST GUARD. I WOULD SAY THE COAST GUARD RECEIVED NOTICE OF THIS. THE COAST GUARD HAS HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS. OBVIOUSLY THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HERE. AND, AND I WOULD SAY THIS, OF ALL THE USES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE, THIS IS ACTUALLY CLEARLY THE BEST FOR THE COAST GUARD. SO, SO NIEN GO AHEAD LIZ. I I, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I'M, I'M GONNA JUST, SO 13 YEARS AGO, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THIS, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE USE WHATSOEVER. UM, 13 YEARS AGO, UM, THE COAST GUARD HAD CONCERNS MM-HMM . ABOUT, UM, THERE WAS A BUILDING THAT WAS, THERE WAS A BUILDING, I THINK IT WAS PARKING GARAGE AND THEN BECAME OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE COAST GUARD WEIGHED IN ON THAT. UM, FIVE YEARS AGO, UH, THE COAST GUARD HAD CONCERNS ABOUT OFFICE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WENT. UM, SO WE HAVE, I'M GONNA GIVE DEFERENCE ALWAYS TO THE COAST GUARD AND OUR GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A FEW THINGS. HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMUNICATION OTHER THAN NOTICE WITH THE COMMANDANT OR THE COMMANDER OF ANY MEMBER [00:35:01] OF THE COAST GUARD? YES. YOU HAVE. WHO? DAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YEAH, CAPTAIN, YOU HAVE TO COME UP. HELLO? UH, DAN MOORE. I'M THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE MARINA. UM, WE'VE HAD PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIALOGUE WITH CAPTAIN CLAY MCKINNEY, WHO'S THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE BASE AND OTHER, UH, HIGH RANKING OFFICERS ABOVE HIM. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLAN? HAVE THEY SEEN THE PLAN? YES, THEY HAVE. OKAY. UM, CAN YOU, WHERE'S THE LETTER FROM THEM? HAVE THEY THEY'VE NOT OFFERED AN OPINION. WE'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING. YEAH, WE REQUESTED A LETTER SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE IT TODAY. AND, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT WAS A VERY SHORT FUSE SINCE WE GOT THE REQUEST FOR A NO OBJECTION LETTER, UM, WHICH WE SENT THROUGH TO THE COAST GUARD AND HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM ON AND, UH, GOT AN EMAIL LAST NIGHT FROM CLAY THAT, UH, DO YOU, CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT EMAIL TO US? PARDON ME? CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT EMAIL TO US PLEASE? SURE. THAT IT'S GOING THROUGH, UH, THE NORMAL PROCESS AT A HIGH LEVEL AND THAT HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE LETTER FOR THIS MORNING'S MEETING. SO, UM, SO, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT, UH, HAVING SPECIAL EVENTS WITH 300 PEOPLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, MUSIC AND ALL OF THAT, UM, THE COAST GUARD HASN'T VETTED ANY OF THE PEOPLE. THEY, THEY HAVE A SECURITY CON, THEY HAVE SECURITY CONTROL ISSUES. THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE EVEN AWARE, BUT THE COAST GUARD STORES MUNITIONS. IT IS AN ACTIVE MILITARY BASE. THEY STORE MUNITIONS ON SITE AND IT IS A BLAST ZONE. SO MY, MY CONCERN IS, I, I KNOW THAT THE COAST GUARD HAS, UM, THE ABILITY TO EITHER OFFER AN OPINION OR NOT OFFER AN OPINION, BUT I, UM, AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITHOUT HEARING OR READING AN OPINION FROM THEM. UM, AND, AND, AND ALSO IT SAYS THE CITY WILL PROVIDE COMMANDING OFFICER OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND SUBMIT COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES REGARDING THE IMPACT OF PROPOSED CHANGES. MAY HAVE ON THE MANI, EXCUSE ME, HAVE ON THE MISSION OF THE US COAST GUARD STATION. UM, THESE ARE IN OUR CODES, THAT IS POLICY RLU 3.42. AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS, UM, THE CITY WILL COOPERATE. THE CITY WILL COOPERATE WITH THE US COAST GUARD STATION LOCATED WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION BY EXCHANGING AND PROVIDING INFORMATION TO PREVENT ENCROACHMENT OF INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES IN ORDER TO FACILITATE ITS CONTINUED PRESENCE IN THE CITY. IT IS AN ACTIVE MILITARY BASE, SO THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE IN OUR CODE. UM, IT ALSO SAYS THAT ANYTHING THAT WE WILL TRANSMIT THE CITY WILL TRANSMIT, NOT ME, UH, TO THE COMMANDING OFFICER. INFORMATION RELATING TO PROPOSED CHANGES TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, PLAN AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LDRS, IF APPROVED, WOULD AFFECT THE INTENSITY DENSITY OR USE OF THE LAND ADJACENT TO OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE US COAST GUARD STATION. MM-HMM . I AM GOING TO ASK THE CHAIR TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL JANUARY UNTIL WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM FROM THE COAST GUARD THAT THEY WILL EITHER OFFER AN OPINION. WE, THE CITY HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING EXCEPT OFFER, UH, A 375 FOOT NOTICE. THE CITY HAS NOT GIVEN THEM PLANS. AND I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ADDRESS THAT? UH, WELL, THE ONLY REASON I'M SURPRISED IS THAT THEY WERE VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED WHEN THERE WAS A PROPOSED CONDO. 'CAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD. SURE. UM, I'M SURPRISED THEY HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF THIS. I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD NISSAN. NO, AND I, UH, LET, LET ME SAY TWO THINGS FIRST TO MS. LA'S COMMENT. I'M WILLING TO, IF THE COAST GUARD HAS AN OBJECTION, WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO THIS BOARD. WE, I THAT YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THOUGH. THE, THE CITY HASN'T FULFILLED ITS OBLIGATION TO COOPERATE WITH THE MILITARY AND THAT'S ON THE CITY. SO UNTIL THE CITY IS ABLE TO COOPERATE WITH THE MILITARY INSTALLATION, AND THAT'S IN OUR, UM, RLU 3.4 AND, AND WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE NOT FULFILLED OUR OBLIGATION. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE USE WHATSOEVER. I WANT TO HEAR FROM, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO DEFER TO OUR MILITARY. THAT'S ALL. IF I MAY, IF I, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY CON RESPONSE TO THAT? I MEAN, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. SO THE, UM, RLU 3.4 0.1 IS NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO [00:40:01] CHANGE ANY OF THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE PROPOSED USES, UH, VIA ATTACK TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THIS RLU 3.42. WE HAVE GIVEN, WE HAVE SENT A MAIL NOTICE TO THE COAST GUARD BASE HAS PROVIDED. LET FINISH, LET HER FINISH. ELIZABETH, I'M GOING TO, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, WHICH HAS ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS TO CONTACT US REGARDING HOW YOU CAN VIEW ALL OF THE PLANS. THE PLANS ARE ONLINE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY DO HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT RECEIVE THESE MAIL NOTICES ASKING TO VIEW THE PLANS. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE COAST GUARD STATION. WELL, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC. IS THERE, CAN YOU TELL IF ANYONE ON ZOOM IS FROM THE COAST GUARD? NO ONE HAS THEIR HAND RAISED. UM, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT JUMPS OUT AS THEY, I'M ASSUMING NOBODY IN HERE WITH THE COAST GUARD. NO ONE IN HERE. OKAY, KEEP GOING. SORRY DEB. UM, AND OUR POLICY, RLU 3.4 0.3, OF COURSE WE WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANY COMMENTS, UH, RECEIVED? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED PLANS. WHEN I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE QUESTIONS OF YOU, UM, I ASK WHAT HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO THE COAST GUARD AND IT, YOU'VE SAID 375 FOOT NOTICE. THIS SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE WILL GIVE THEM PLANS AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. BUT IT, IT DOESN'T, IT SAYS WE WILL PROVIDE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND SUBMIT COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES. OKAY. AND WE HAVE SHOWN THEM THE PLANS OURSELVES AND WE HAVE SENT THE MAIL NOTICE THAT OUTLINES THE PROCESS FOR THEM TO CONTACT US TO, OH, HOLD ON. WELL, THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO YOU'RE SAYING OBVIOUSLY AS AN YEAH. ATTORNEY UNDER, NOT QUITE UNDER OATH, BUT YOU'RE REPRESENTING UNDER OATH. YOU'VE SHARED YOUR PLANS WITH THE COAST GUARD? YES, WE HAVE SHARED, WE HAVE SHARED OUR PLANS WITH THE COAST GUARD. OKAY. I MEAN, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU DIDN'T SHARE YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT. JUST BE CANDID. YEAH. ENTERTAINMENT. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. GNH I'M ASKING QUESTION. NO, NO, WE DID ACTUALLY, BECAUSE CLEARLY THEY'RE GONNA BE HAPPY WITH THE OH, DAN IS THE ONE WHO HAD THE CONTENT. YEAH, NO, NO, WE DID ACTUALLY, UM, WE SHARED ALL THE PLANS. WE SHARED OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, WE SHARED THE CITY'S COMMENTS TO OUR TRAFFIC STUDY. WE SHARED ALL OUR SPECIAL EVENT LOADING, UM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH HERE YET. AND WHILE, WHICH WE WERE WHEN YOU SAY WE SHARED WITH THEM, WHO'S THEM WITH, WITH THE COAST GUARD COMMAND. I KNOW, BUT I A PARTICULAR COMMAND COMMANDING OFFICER. OKAY. HIS ASSISTANT AND A BUNCH AND, AND A NUMBER OF OFFICERS ABOVE HIM AND OPEN AIR ENTERTAINMENT. YOU WENT THROUGH THAT. YOU TALKED ABOUT FRAMES. NO, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AND HOW WE, IT'S NOT DEEP ENOUGH AND HOW WE WERE LIMITING, WE DON'T HAVE GUYS STOP OUR SPECIAL EVENTS ONE AT A TIME. I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SHARED WITH THEM AT THIS POINT. RIGHT. SO YOU'VE SHARED ALL THE PLANS WITH THEM? YES. AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEEK SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. CORRECT. BUT NOT NOTHING ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO. OKAY. AND THEN, WELL, I HAVEN'T, I APPRECIATE YOUR KID KNOW IF THERE, WE DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE HEARD FROM THIS, THERE WOULD BE ANY ENTERTAINMENT AT SPECIAL EVENTS, QUITE FRANKLY. RIGHT. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT EMAIL? ARE YOU WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT EMAIL RIGHT NOW? WELL, ELIZABETH, HE'S UNDER OATH. HE'S NOT, I MEAN, I'M SAYING THIS IS, HE'S UNDER OATH. HE'S NOT GONNA SAY THEY SHARED PLANS IF THEY DIDN'T. RIGHT. BUT, BUT, BUT BRIAN, MR. CHAIR YES. THIS IS A BLAST ZONE. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM THE COAST GUARD AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE GIVEN THE, THEY WE'VE HEARD NOTHING. OKAY. WELL, I'M, I'M, HERE'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU. 'CAUSE THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE WHEN IT WAS GONNA BE A CONDO. RIGHT. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. I MEAN, THEY CAME EVERY DAY AND OPPOSED IT, THE SHUT DOWN. IF HE'S TELLING YOU UNDER OATH, THEY SHARED ALL THEIR PLANS WITH THEM AND THEY KNOW THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERN IS BECAUSE THEY, BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN AND THEY ARE NOT. I CAN, ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. YOU'RE LISTEN. I MEAN, CAN YOU, CAN I ASK YOUR OPINION IF THEY TOLD ME HADN'T SHARED PLANS BE CONCERNED? I'M ASKING WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHY WOULD WE NOT WAIT TO SEE? WELL, I MEAN, BRIAN, CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION? SURE. TWO G AND TWO H, CAN YOU GIMME A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING CHANGES? SO THE, THERE WAS NO ENTERTAINMENT, THERE WAS NO SPECIAL PERMITS ZONED THERE BEFORE. RIGHT. I MEAN, WE'RE SAYING THE COAST GUARD WAS REALLY COOL ABOUT IT BEING NO ENTERTAINMENT, NO SPECIAL EVENTS AT THAT LOCATION. IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? IS THAT THE HISTORY OF THIS AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A CHANGE. THERE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A RESTAURANT THERE ON THE, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THE CURRENTLY APPROVED APPLICATION, CONTINUOUSLY OPERATING RESTAURANT. BUT WAS IT EVER AUTHORIZED FOR ENTERTAINMENT A OR SPECIAL EVENTS B? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, THAT FOR REGARDING THE SPECIAL EVENTS, IT, I BELIEVE IT IS THE POLICY OF THE CITY THAT WHEN A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT IS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED BY THE TOURISM AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT, THAT THEY WOULD NOT PERMIT ENTERTAINMENT IN AN UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT THAT PROHIBITS ENTERTAINMENT EVEN AS [00:45:01] PART OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. UM, YEAH. AND CURRENTLY IT DOESN'T ALLOW IT. CORRECT. AND HOW, HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN IN EFFECT? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING A VERY LONG TIME. LOTS OF PROJECTS. IT'S NEVER BEEN CHANGED TO ENTERTAINMENT. CORRECT. OKAY. WE CAN'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. WELL, IF I, IF I MAY WITHOUT A WRITING, I MAY, MR. MARKS, THE SPECIAL, SPECIAL EVENTS BY THEIR NATURE INCLUDE ENTERTAINMENT. THEY ARE, IT IS PROHIBITED ENTERTAINMENT IN A NUMBER OF ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT THE CITY'S OWN CODE SAYS A SPECIAL EVENT IS DEFINED AS TEMPORARY USE ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED GENERALLY. BUT SHE SAID TO G IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA DID NOT ALLOW ENTERTAINMENT. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE AN, IT WOULD BE LIKE, UH, CATCH. THEY HAD A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. WE ALLOWED IT, BUT THEY COULDN'T HAVE ENTERTAINMENT. I WOULD, I I WOULD PROPOSE THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE IN A, A, A BACK AND FORTH, IF I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED ENTERTAINMENT AND SPECIAL EVENTS AS PERMITTED BY THE CODE. IF THE CITY DETERMINES THAT IT'S NOT PERMITTED, THEN IT'S NOT PERMITTED. IF THE CITY DETERMINES IT'S PERMITTED, THEN IT'S PERMITTED. WE'LL GO BY THE CODE. OKAY. BUT ISN'T THE CODE CURRENTLY SAYING IT'S NOT PERMITTED? WE BELIEVE THAT UNDER SPECIAL EVENTS. THAT'S AN INTERPRETATION. I, I AM HAPPY TO. THIS IS KIND OF NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED. RIGHT? WE ARE NOT PLAN, WE'RE NOT BUILDING THIS TO HAVE ANY SPECIAL EVENTS. THERE MAY BE AN OCCASIONAL ONE AND WE WANT IT TO BE FORTHRIGHT AND SAY THAT WE MAY HAVE AN OCCASIONAL SPECIAL EVENT THERE. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE CON IS THERE ABIDE BY THE CODE? DEBORAH, IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WANTS TO TALK ON THIS? UM, ANYONE ON ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT. JUST WANNA MAKE, I WANNA GET THE PUBLIC HEARING OTHER WAY. IS ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS? NO. MR. CHAIR? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ON ZOOM. OKAY. ANDREAS, HOW YOU DOING ANDRE? 1000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHETHER THEY WANTED TO BUILD A HIGH RISE OR AN OFFICE BUILDING AND MANY PEOPLE DID NOT WANNA SEE THIS. UH, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIVING, UH, SOUTH OF FIFTH OBSTRUCTING THE VIEWS THIS STRUCTURE HIGHLY, IT'S JUST IDENTIFY YOUR ADDRESS. SO PEOPLE ON 1000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. OH, I'M SORRY YOU SAID THAT. GREAT. SORRY, GO AHEAD. UM, AND THIS IS BASICALLY GONNA BE CAMOUFLAGED AMONGST WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. SO THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EVER GONNA LOOK AT THIS. UM, AND FOR THE INTENDED USE, UH, THE TRAFFIC AND WHATNOT, OBVIOUSLY IT, IT IS A CONCERN RE REGARDING, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS. AND OBVIOUSLY I'M SURE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET A, A BLESSING FROM THE COAST GUARD YES. UH, UH, ON, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. AND I'M SURE THAT THEY PROBABLY WILL BE OKAY WITH IT. UM, BUT OVERALL THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ON THIS SITE. BAR NONE. RIGHT. AND I THINK EVERYONE AGREES WITH THAT. I THINK THE, THE CONCERN IS THE SPECIAL. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL HENDERSON. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANYBODY ELSE ON CHAMBERS SPEAK ON THIS? ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING NEE IT'S OBVIOUSLY CLEAR. EVERYONE AGREES. THERE'S NO QUESTION. THE PROJECT IS GREAT. IT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE USE FOR ANYONE IN THE AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, I I WAS CONFIDENT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CITY'S EVENT PLANNING PERMIT PROCESS, BUT OBVIOUSLY KEITH AND ELIZABETH ARE NOT. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, UM, IS WE EITHER APPROVE THIS THE WAY IT IS, UM, OR AND THEN YOU COME BACK IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO AMEND IT OR WE DEL OR WE POSTPONE IT. 'CAUSE I'M HEARING LESS THAN THE OTHER MEMBERS DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I'M FINE WITH IT GOING, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DIFFERENCE TO THEIR CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT AND SHOW US, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY TESTIFIED UNDER OATH. THE ONLY THING THAT HE, YOU HAVEN'T SHARED WITH THEM IS WHAT YOUR SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND, AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF I MAY, I WAS, I HADN'T COMPLETED MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. IS BRING UP COREY DOMAN FROM KIMLEY HORNE TO WALK YOU THROUGH, UH, HOW THESE EVENTS, WHICH ARE, WOULD NOT BE LARGE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 PEOPLE. THERE IS PROBABLY NO LOCATION IN THE CITY THAT HAS A GREATER CAPACITY TO HANDLE THESE WITHOUT ANY IMPACT WHATSOEVER ON STREETS AND NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE COREY. WELL, ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO IF, OBVIOUSLY, IF, IF, IF WE HAD THE PROVISION THAT SAID ENTERTAINMENT IS NOT ALLOWED UNLESS APPROVED BY A SPECIAL PERMIT, YOU DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO US, WOULD YOU BE, IF WE GAVE YOU THAT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME BACK TO US FOR THAT? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'D RATHER NOT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE COMPROMISE THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO, TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT IF THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENTS SO LONG AS YOU COME BACK TO PLANNING BOARD. SO WE CAN GOVERN THAT. I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE NE AT THE, IT WAS CONTINUED. THIS WAS, THIS SAID WE [00:50:01] WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY. I, I, IF I MAY, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, LET ME JUST SO EVERYONE HAS A FULL UNDERSTANDING, WAS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. REMEMBER THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED HERE ON A DAILY BASIS? OH NO, NO, THERE'S NO QUESTION. HUNDREDS YEAH. ME, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. NO TRAFFIC, IT'S SOUND. SO THIS IS, THIS IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. ON RARE OCCASION, THERE MIGHT BE AN EVENT WITH NONE PARTICULARLY PLANNED, WHICH WILL HAVE ACTUALLY LESS IMPACT THAN THE DAILY USE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING THERE. IF I COULD JUST HAVE CORY YEAH, GO AHEAD SIR. COME, COME TO YOUR PRESENTATION. IF I COULD HAVE CORY TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT. DO YOU NEED MICROPHONE? NO'S NOT, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, UH, GOOD MORNING. CORY DORMANT WITH KINLEY HORN OFFICES AT TWO ALEJANDRA PLAZA, SUITE 500 CORAL GABLES, FLORIDA 3 3 1 3 4. UM, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. UM, YEAH, JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE BOARD IN FRONT OF YOU SHOULD SHOW, UH, THE CIRCULATION ROUTES. LEMME ACTUALLY BEGIN. JUST POINT AT THAT. UM, SO HOPEFULLY YOU ALL CAN SEE, UH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR, FOR THESE SPECIAL EVENTS IN TERMS OF, UH, VEHICULAR CIRCULATION DURING THOSE EVENTS. THIS AREA IN ORANGE REPRESENTS THE ACTUAL VALET DROP-OFF PICKUP. THAT'S WHERE THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, GUESTS AND VALET AT ATTENDANTS WOULD OCCUR ABOUT FIVE VEHICLES CAN BE PROCESSED AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UM, AND WHAT YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTICE TOO, IS THAT THIS AREA IS PUSHED SIGNIFICANTLY INTO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. UM, A MAXIMUM OF 39 VEHICLES CAN QUEUE AND STACK BEHIND THE VALET AREA AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UM, SO GUESTS WILL COME IN OFF OF THE MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY, THEY WILL CIRCULATE THROUGH THE INTERNAL DRIVE VIAL AGAIN, AND 39 VEHICLES, UM, CAN STACK UP TO THAT VALET AREA, AT WHICH POINT VALET AT ATTENDANTS WILL THEN TAKE VEHICLES, UM, OFF THE SITE, UM, AND PARK VEHICLES IN THE FISHER ISLAND GARAGE. UM, SO IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF, SORRY, JUST TO PAUSE THERE. YEAH. IS THERE AN AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW WHERE FISHER ISLAND GARAGE CAN HOUSE THOSE CARS? SO THAT SIGN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HANDLED AS PART OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. UM, BUT THE IDEA IS, IS THAT THE FISHER ISLAND GARAGE IS MOST ACTIVE 6:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. UM, AND SO SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF THOSE HIGH IMPACT AREAS OR TIMES RATHER, UM, AND WHEN THE GARAGE IS, IS MOST FULLY UTILIZED. UM, BUT CERTAINLY A KEY DETAIL THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IRONED OUT IN THE SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, PERMIT APPLICATION. UM, IN TERMS OF TRIPS, I MEAN, UH, NEESON MENTIONED IT, UH, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED APPLICATION WAS CONTRIBUTING UP TO 274 VEHICLES DURING THE WEEKDAY P PEAK HOUR. SO A HIGHER TRIP GENERATOR DO DURING A HIGHER IMPACT TIME AS COMPARED TO EVEN A SPECIAL EVENT, UM, AT THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. SO I, I I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF STACKING AND QUEUING, UH, PARKING WITHOUT INTERFERING. THIS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER ON ANY OF THE AREAS NEARBY. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT MAYBE WOULD GIVE SOME LEVEL OF COMFORT TO SOME BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL IS THAT WE, WE, WE WOULD LIKE, OF COURSE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS AS PERMANENT WITH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, BUT WE WOULD AGREE TO A CONDITION THAT THE COAST GUARD, WE WOULD NOTIFY THE COAST GUARD AS WHEN WE APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. SO THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT AND IF NECESSARY OBJECT. WE FEEL, I MEAN, THESE USES SHOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE, THE OWNER'S WHOLE WAY OF DOING THINGS SHOULD VERY, IT SHOULD BE VERY SUBDUED AND, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, AMENABLE FOR THEM. BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE AS A CONDITION THAT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, WE WOULD, UH, HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COAST GUARD WHEN WE APPLY FOR THAT. SO THEY COULD COMMENT ON ANY SPECIAL EVENT YOU HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED ANYWAY. NEESON, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO, I I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE USE AT, AT ALL. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL THE COAST GUARD HAS BEEN GIVEN A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE, BE HAVE A FULL REVIEW OF THE PLANS. I'M SURE THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE AT THE COAST GUARD THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. BUT I, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, ELIZABETH, YOU, THE CONCERN WITH THE COAST GUARD IS JUST YOU WANTING TO HEAR BACK NOTIF THAT THEY'VE GOT NOTIFICATION UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT? YES. OR ARE YOU DIRECTLY, UH, UH, TARGETING THE SPECIAL EVENTS WITH THIS IN THE COAST GUARD? I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COAST GUARD THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY COULD BE IMPACTED BY ANYTHING. OKAY. THEY ARE AN ACTIVE MILITARY BASE, SO, WHICH I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. A A ABSOLUTELY. UM, IF THIS WAS A FIRST TIME PROJECT WAS BEING BROUGHT FORTH ABOUT THIS ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS OVER OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THEY'VE OBJECTED BEFORE. BUT [00:55:01] THAT'S WHAT'S ODD THOUGH BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE IN PRIOR PROJECTS. SO IT'S ODD TO ME THAT THEY HAVE NOTICE AND NO ONE'S HERE FOR THAT. SO THEY MUST NOT BUT THE COAST, BUT THEY'RE SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THAT'S WHY COAST ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO, HOLD ON. THE COAST GUARD IS COAST. COAST GUARD IS OPERATING. I'M GONNA DO SOME WATER HERE. LET'S, I'M GONNA START WITH KEITH. OKAY. AND WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN THE ROAD. I NIECE AND I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I LIKE THE PROJECT. I AGREE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKES THE PROJECT. AND MY CONCERN IS ELIZABETH'S AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE A ONE RE WRITTEN PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN HAVE 300 PEOPLE DURING, UH, AN ACTIVITY TIMEFRAME. THAT THE COAST GUARD MAY NOT LIKE 300 RANDOM PEOPLE THERE WITH NO DEFINITION OF TIMEFRAMES. IT COULD BE THREE IN THE MORNING, IT COULD BE 8:00 AM IT COULD BE VERY LOUD OR NOT VERY LOUD. THE, YOU WOULD THINK AN ACTIVE MILITARY BASE WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN, IN ADVANCE STATING THEIR POSITION AND WHETHER WE SHOULD CHANGE SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS IN CODE, NO ENTERTAINMENT, NO SPECIAL EVENTS, AND IN AN AREA THAT'S FACING THEM. SO LOGIC TELLS ME THAT I WOULD FEEL . I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IN WRITING, SEE IN WRITING, NOT EVEN HEAR, SEE IN WRITING THAT THEY KNOW THIS PLAN EXISTS WITH NO TIMEFRAMES AND NO VOLUME CONTROLS CURRENTLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AND WHETHER THEY'D LIKE 300 PEOPLE IN A BAND. WELL, WHY DO YOU SEE, NO, WHY DO YOU SAY NO VOLUME CONTROLS? WELL, CLEARLY AUDIBLE TO WHERE HE'S, HE'S NOT SAYING A HUNDRED FEET. HE'S SAYING CLEARLY AUDIBLE. WELL, OKAY, BUT YOU SAID ALL VOLUME CONTROLS. YEAH, I MEAN, CLEARLY AUDIBLE TO, TO THE BASE. OKAY. ARE WE GONNA DO THAT NOW OR THAT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY. RIGHT. BUT THERE WILL BE SOME VOLUME BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY. WELL, I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. YEAH, YEAH. NO. OKAY. AND SO I WOULD PERSONALLY EITHER LIKE TO, TO PASS IT WITH THE CURRENT STATUS AND YOU GIVE US A LETTER COMING BACK, UH, THAT SAYS THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU'RE BETTER DEFINED IT AND THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT. 300 PEOPLE AND ENTERTAINMENT IN THE, IN AREAS AND TIMES YOU DO OR, YOU KNOW, UH, WITHOUT IT OR DELAY IT TILL YOU TELL US. AND WE WOULD BE FINE WITH GETTING THAT LETTER, PASSING IT. YEAH. ALLOWING IT, BUT PASSING IT WITH, GETTING A LETTER BACK FROM THE COAST GUARD SAYING THAT THEY'RE OKAY. BEFORE. ONE QUESTION FOR SETH, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A SPECIAL EVENT ON THIS, THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? NOT THAT I'M AWARE. THERE'S NO HISTORY. OKAY. WELL, IT'S BEEN INDUSTRIAL. IT'S INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF MAYBE SOMEONE RENTED IT FOR THAT. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN. I MEAN, IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL MARINA OPERATING THERE. I THINK THEY MAY HAVE HAD EVENTS. BUT IS YOUR CONCERN THAT WITH THE NOISE FOR THE COAST GUARD OR THE RESIDENTS, OR BOTH? ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE BOTH, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S JUST THE COAST GUARD. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU LIVE CLOSER TO THE ILAND IN SUNSET HARBOR. YEAH. BUT YOU THINK WITH VOLUME CONTROL THAT PEOPLE SOUTH OF FIFTH COULD STILL BE EXPOSED TO INCONVENIENCE AND OUTDOORS WITH, WITH NO VOLUME LIMITS? NO. WITH VOLUME CONTROLS? WELL, YEAH. OKAY. YOU STILL THINK THEY COULD BE IMPACTED THAT FAR AWAY? I, I DON'T KNOW THE AREAS. WELL, AS YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY VOLUME CONTROLS, BUT THERE'S A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT LIMITS WITH THE, THE VOLUME, WHETHER IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT OR A DAILY EVENT. THERE'S A NOISE. YOU MEAN MEAN IF YOU CAN HEAR AN AUDIBLE MORE THAN A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED FEET. RIGHT. THAT THAT APPLIES. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. THEN THEY'LL NEVER HEAR IT SOUTH THE FIFTH THAT APPLIES. WELL, THAT'S FINE. SO YEAH. THERE, SO THEN THE REAL ISSUE IS THE COAST GUARD YES. IS THE PEOPLE THAT SLEEP THERE AND LIVE THERE. YEAH. HOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, I KNOW IT'S IN HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY DO YOU ANTICIPATE SPECIAL EVENTS IN A YEAR? WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. OKAY. UH, AND IT'S NOT, I MEAN, THIS IS, UH, UH, CERTAINLY THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG IN THE SENSE THAT PROBABLY FOR THINGS LIKE, UH, ART BASEL, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING, OR F1, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE OCCASIONAL RIGHT. UH, SPECIAL EVENTS. THIS IS, THIS IS HIS PERSONAL MARINA. AND, AND, AND I MUST REITERATE, I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT THIS IS THE LEAST INTENSE, THE MOST SECURE USE, AGAIN, IS ALL ABOUT SPECIAL. WE GOT THAT. EVERYTHING IS GREAT. IT'S ALL ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS. UM, AND AGAIN, I'M PUZZLED THAT THE COAST GUARD IS NOT HERE. WELL, AND YOU, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SO ACTIVE IN THE PAST, MR. CHAIR, YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY. I HEARD IT. THAT'S WHY FOREIGN TESTIMONY, THAT NOT ONLY DID THEY, OF COURSE THEY RECEIVED THE PLANS FROM THE STATE. SORRY, JUST ONE, ONE QUESTION, BUT THEY WERE PERSONALLY SHOWN THE PLANS IS IS THERE A PRECEDENT WHERE IF, IF THERE, AND IT'S NOT MY COMMENTS, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT WHERE IF THIS WAS APPROVED, AND LET'S SAY THE APPLICANT HAS 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE A LETTER FROM COAST GUARD IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH LETTER, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD. IS THERE ANYTHING [01:00:01] LIKE THAT? NOT RECOMMEND DOING THAT? UM, WHY? BECAUSE THE DECISION'S MADE TODAY. AND IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AN AFFECTED PARTY'S, UM, POTENTIAL INPUT OR OBJECTIONS, UM, LEMME INTEREST. I'M, I'M NOT CONCERNED, BUT BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY'VE SAID SWORN TESTIMONY THAT THEY HAVE HEARD FAVORABLE FEEDBACK FROM THE COAST GUARD. SO I'M NOT CONCERNED IF THOSE THAT ARE CONCERNED, MAYBE THAT COULD BE A MIDDLE GROUND, BUT THAT LETTER COULD TAKE ANY NUMBER OF FORMS. ALRIGHT. WELL LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YEAH. UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA GO TO, TO TO BACK TO KEITH OR SCOTT, UM, IN THE SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS FOR THE CITY, WILL THE COAST GUARD BE GIVEN NOTICE OF THAT IF THEY APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE REQUIRED TO. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO CONSENT. NOW, ARE THEY, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO RECEIVE NOTICE? COULD THERE BE CONDITION IN THAT? THAT THEY RECEIVE NOTICE? WELL, NEENEE AGREED TO BE OFFERED THAT. YEAH. BUT WE WOULD, WE WILL AGREE TO GIVE THEM NOTICE WHEN WE APPLY FOR ANY SPECIAL EVENT. AND WHAT IF THEY OBJECT ON, HOLD ON. WHAT IF THEY OBJECT? I THINK THE CITY WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDER. WOULDN'T GET HOLD ON THAT. STOP. THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. IF YOU, IF WE AGREE IN A CONDITION THAT THEY WILL GET NOTICE AND THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, YOU ALL OBVIOUSLY LISTEN TO THOSE CONCERNS. AND OR WHOEVER, WHO, BY THE WAY, WHO, WHO APPROVES A SPECIAL EVENT IN THE CITY? THE TOURISM DIRECTOR? HUH? THE TOURISM DIRECTOR. THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT. INDIVIDUALLY AS A, ARE THEY SORT COMMITTEE? IS IT ONE PERSON? IS IT IT IT'S THE, THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT OVERSEES SPECIAL EVENTS. WHAT THE SPECIAL EVENT GUIDELINES PROVIDE IS THAT, UM, THAT THE, THAT STAFF CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A, UM, UH, A NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS OR OBJECTIONS IN THE CONDITIONS THEY IMPOSE ON A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPROVAL. THEY CAN NOT SHALL. RIGHT. OKAY. NOT SHALL, THERE'S NO WAY. BUT I'M ASSUMING THE CITY WOULD GIVE DEFERENCE TO THE COAST GUARD'S CONCERNS. UM, IS THAT A GOOD ASSUMPTION? I WOULD, I WOULD THINK SO. THERE'S NO WAY OF US, LIKE FIRMLY MAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THAT. IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION FROM THE, THE, UH, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE COAST GUARD THAT THIS WOULD BE, UM, A NO GO SO COAST TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR CONCERNS. RIGHT. WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I MEAN, JUST SAY GIVING IT MORE WEIGHT THAN JUST THE REGULAR REGULAR. RIGHT. IF THE BOARD HAS, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD HAS AUTHORITY TO, TO, AS PART OF YOUR APPROVAL, PROHIBIT ANY SPECIAL EVENT. UH, BUT THAT'S ALL WE WANNA DO. SO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SAYING I THINK IT WOULD FOLLOW THAT YOU COULD, UM, REQUIRE THE COAST GUARD. YOU COULD, I MEAN, YOU COULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COAST GUARDS OBJECTIONS. YOU COULD REQUIRE, I THINK ARGUABLY COULD REQUIRE THEIR CONSENT. WE CAN CONDITION THAT THE PERSON WHO DECIDES ON SPECIAL EVENTS REQUIRE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COAST GUARD'S CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THEM ACCORDINGLY. THAT COULD BE CONDITION. WE'RE HAPPY. WE CAN OPPOSE THAT ON THE CITY. YOU COULD, I THINK YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT CONDITION. I ALSO THINK IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD REQUIRE CONSENT. I THINK WE REQUIRE CONSENT. MIGHT BE RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT WAY IF YOU REQUIRE COAST GUARD CONSENT, IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, THEY WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM RIGHT. TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'LL THEN AGREE TO IT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO, UH, WHO'S NEXT? SCOTT, GO AHEAD SCOTT. YEAH, I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH IN THAT LAST DISCUSSION, UM, JUST GO THROUGH IT AGAIN, RESOLVED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS, AT LEAST THINGS I WOULD'VE BROUGHT UP. LOOK, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PROJECT, UM, WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE ENTERTAINMENT. UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU OFFERED, I THINK IS, WILL HELP TO GET CONSENT FROM THE COAST GUARD FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. UM, THE ONLY THING IS, I I DO WANNA WAIT THOUGH TILL WE HEAR FROM THE COAST GUARD BEFORE WE APPROVE IT. UM, AS YOU, UM, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR NAME. WHAT, WHAT YOU MENTIONED THAT COAST GUARD HAS THIS AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR A LETTER FROM THEM. WELL, UM, HE'S, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT GOES UP THE CHAIN AND THEN A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HAVE TO REVIEW IT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS. I, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE MY, OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE FINISHED. I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING ENOUGH WEIGHT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF ALL THIS. AND THEY SAID PROVE EVERYTHING BUT THE SPECIAL, UM MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE SPECIAL EVENTS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HEARING FROM THE COAST GUARD. I DON'T THINK WE CAN PROSPECTIVELY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I THINK WE GET THAT IN FRONT OF US ONCE WE HAVE THAT LETTER. HOPEFULLY THAT OUTLINES THE COAST GUARD'S POSITION AND WE APPROVE EVERYTHING. BUT THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND ENTERTAINMENT CHANGE UNTIL WE HEAR FROM 'EM JANUARY 6TH. WELL, ARE YOU SAYING APPROVE, BUT AS THE BIFURCATE, THE SPECIAL EVENTS BIFURCATE? WELL, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. PROVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT BIFURCATE THE SPECIAL, THE TWO, THE, THE, THE GH MAC WITH THE LETTER OR THE COAST GUARD COMMANDANT. AND WE WILL BE COOL. UNDERSTOOD. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY BRIEFLY ADDRESS THIS, I I ALSO WANNA PUT A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ONTO THIS. [01:05:01] WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DAN MOORE AND HIS TEAM CLOSELY WITH THE COAST GUARD. IN FACT, THE COAST GUARD USED OUR SPACE TO LAND HELICOPTERS. THERE'S A VERY CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP. UH, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, AS I'VE SAID MORE THAN ONCE, THIS IS THE BEST USE THE COAST GUARD CAN HAVE AND IS BENEFICIAL ACTUALLY TO THE COAST GUARD. I THINK WE CAN GET AROUND THE ISSUE BY SAYING, AND WE ARE WILLING TO DO THIS, THAT THEY, AS TO ANY SPECIAL EVENT, THEY WILL RECEIVE NOTICE. AND, UH, AND IF THEY OBJECT THAT THE CITY CAN, UH, DENY THE SPECIAL EVENT, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN, WE COULD, WE COULD OFFER IN THAT REGARD. 'CAUSE WE WILL, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM. WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THAT. SO IS, I MEAN, KEITH, ELIZABETH, ANY AND WHAT, WHAT IS NOT OKAY WITH THAT? I DON'T, IF THEY'RE GETTING NOTICE AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO OBJECT AND THEY MAY ADD OBJECT, IT'LL NOT BE GRANTED. MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY ADD, UM, OUR OWNERSHIP'S GOAL IS TO SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE COAST GUARD. MM-HMM . WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COAST GUARD HAND IN HAND ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, A VARIETY OF ISSUES. WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY EVENT THAT THE COAST GUARD HAD ANY ISSUE WITH. RIGHT. SO THAT THE I HEAR YOU. THEY'RE I'M OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY. EXCEPT THAT I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. I I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME ANYMORE. BUT YOU ARE SAYING ALLOW ENTERTAINMENT, I WOULD CHANGE THAT TO SAY ALLOW IT UNDER SPECIAL EVENTS ONLY. THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS. IT SAID, DID SAY EXACTLY. ENTERTAINMENT ALLOWED ONLY SPECIAL, IN FACT, SPECIAL WE MAY EVEN HOST AS A SPECIAL EVENT, THE COAST GUARD BALL. OKAY. NO, LISTEN, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING AND I, AND I'M FINE WITH IT. OBVIOUSLY I'VE HAD THE RESPECT TO OF MY BOARD MEMBERS AND YEAH. YOU KNOW, TO ME, IF, IF THEY GET NOTICE AND THE CITY HAS TO LISTEN TO THEM AND IF THEY OBJECT, YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT UNTIL THEY CONSENT. YEAH. AND WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY. WE WE'RE FINE WITH ALL. SCOTT. UH, LET'S GO BACK TO ORDER. SCOTT, ANY OTHER I'M OKAY WITH THAT. WITH, UM, I, I, IT'S NOT AS MUCH THE APPROVAL FROM THE COAST GUARD THAT BOTHERS ME. IT'S THE POTENTIAL FOR NOISE EMAN EMANATING FROM SPEAKERS AND ENTERTAINMENT, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS TO THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON THE COAST GUARD STATION. ADDITIONALLY, THE LIGHTING IMPACT AND, AND, UH, AND SPEAKER POTENTIALLY MUSIC IMPACT TO SOUTH OF FIFTH RESIDENCE. WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL. THERE'S, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT STAFF HAD WAS THE, THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY OR LACK OF CLARITY IN TERMS OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS PLANNED. AND UNTIL THE CITY IS, IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I DON'T THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT. UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, I MEAN, DO YOU, DO YOU PLAN ON HAVING PRE-CONSTRUCTION SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THIS SEASON BEFORE ANY BUILDINGS ARE DONE? UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PLAN, UH, YET. ANY PLANNED SPECIAL EVENTS IS THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S NO SUPPORTING STRUCTURES, THAT PUTS AN EVEN MORE, A BIGGER BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORING, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . AREA AND THE TRAFFIC. AND SO I, I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST ANY SPECIAL EVENTS UNTIL IT'S DONE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS DONE AND, AND, AND ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT MANY PEOPLE THERE. UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WITH 10 EVENTS, SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, OR A YEAR, A YEAR, THAT'S ALMOST MONTHLY EVENTS. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING'S PLANNING ON THAT, BUT HE HAS THE OPTION TO, AND, YOU KNOW, HE IS A VERY PHILANTHROPIC PERSON. HE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SAYING TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS YEAH. HOST YOUR EVENT HERE, AND IT ENDS UP BEING ONCE A MONTH OTHER THAN THE SUMMER MONTHS. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IS TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. SO ASSUMING EVEN FIVE OF THEM ONLY LIMITED TO FIVE IS, UH, OR, UH, ARE DURING PEAK SEASON, YOU KNOW, DURING OUR BASEL YOU COULD DO THREE BACK TO BACK. AND I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT JUNCTURE RIGHT THERE. UM, MACARTHUR IS JUST BRUTAL. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE PREVIOUSLY WAS A OFFICE BUILDING THERE AND, AND WE, WE, LOOK, I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT WAS A CONCERN OF EVERYBODY'S. UM, BUT I THINK THAT MORE ATTENTION NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THE, WHAT'S WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THESE SPECIAL EVENTS. THERE'S A CLEARLY A DISPUTE OR A DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AS TO WHETHER ENTERTAINMENT'S ALLOWED THERE AS PART OF A SPECIAL EVENT OR NOT. THE APPLICANT FEELS THAT THERE IS ENTERTAINMENT ALLOWED WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT. THE CITY IS INDICATED RIGHT NOW THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT ENTERTAINMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED, EVEN WITH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT WHILE WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THIS PROJECT, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE. BECAUSE ONCE IT'S TOO LATE, [01:10:01] THEN WE HAVE THE SOUTH OF FIFTH, SOUTH OF FIFTH RESIDENTS UP IN ARMS SAYING, WE HEAR ALL THIS, WE SEE THE, THE LIGHTS COMING FROM IT. IT'S, IT'S MONTHLY OR IT'S, IT'S CAUSING CHAOS. UH, YOU KNOW, THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC. AND AT THAT POINT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. UM, THE, UH, AND, AND SO, AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED MORE, I THINK WE NEED MORE SPECIFICITY IN, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC. UH, OR I'M SORRY, PARKING. I UNDERSTAND THAT GARAGE IS THERE, BUT I, THEY'RE, ARE THEY, THEY'RE STILL RENOVATING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE, I KNOW WE APPROVED THE RENOVATION TO IT, SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, UH, WHETHER THAT MEANS THEY'RE TAKING SOME PARKING OUT OF SERVICE FOR THE, FOR TWO YEARS OR, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. MAY I ADDRESS THAT? SURE. OKAY. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND FIRST OF ALL, I DID AGAIN, UH, THAT'S WHERE COREY DOMAN WENT. THERE, THERE IS A, AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF STACKING AND QUEUING SPACE ALLOWED SO THAT FOR ANY EVENT OF 300 PEOPLE, THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY SPILLOVER ONTO THE CAUSEWAY. IT JUST, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GEOMETRY OF THE PROPERTY, THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT WILL, CAN LITERALLY CAN NEVER BE A PROBLEM. I, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING, WE ARE ALSO WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS THAT WE WILL BE USING THEIR GARAGE IF AND WHEN, UH, ON A A RARE OCCASION THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT, WHICH WOULD USUALLY BE A WEEKEND OR EVENING. UH, WE ARE TRYING TO AS WELL COORDINATE WITH THE FACT THAT ANY EXPANSION TO THEIR GARAGE WOULD BE COMPLETED IN TIME FOR WHEN THIS MARINA FACILITY IS BUILT. RIGHT. I I BUT IT'S TENTATIVE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC, THERE'S NO REAL AG YOU KNOW, FIRM AGREEMENT WAS. I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M SURE IT MIGHT WORK TO THEIR BENEFIT 'CAUSE THEY WOULD LOVE THE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, REVENUE. UM, BUT I, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SORT OF, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING LIMITING YOU TO 300 PEOPLE FOR A SPECIAL EVENT? WELL, WHAT WE PUT IN THE, OUR PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED CONDITION WOULD SAY THAT. OKAY. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, AMONG OTHER THINGS AS WELL, THIS BOARD IN YOUR ORDER RETAINS JURISDICTION FOR WHEN AFTER THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED TO BRING US BACK. AND I DO HAVE TO, I, I DO HAVE TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE. MR. GRIFFIN HAS NOW BEEN LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS. UH, I CAN, HE IS DOES NOT HAVE A REPUTATION AS SOMEONE WHO IS REGULARLY THROWS WILD, LARGE PARTIES. WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHO WE'RE DEALING WITH. THIS IS A PRIVATE MARINA FOR A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN, FRANKLY A MODEL CITIZEN AND, AND, AND IS NOW SOON TO BE A RESIDENT OF MIAMI BEACH WITH HIS MAIN HOME ON THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THIS SITE. I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT. THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, AND I, I, WE, WE ALL, I THINK WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY, THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE'VE SEEN THIS PROPERTY TRADE LIKE THREE TIMES IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. AND YOU CAN PUT A CONDITION IF IT'S, IF IT, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT OWNER COME BACK, WE HAVE TO COME BACK. THAT'S ALREADY IN, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE, THE, NO, IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, IT'S SAYING IF THERE'S 50% OR MORE OWNERSHIP, THEY'RE CHANGED. OKAY. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HE'S NOT BUYING THIS TO, TO FLIP PROPERTY. THIS IS HIS, THIS IS A LONG TERM. BUT IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA COME IN AND BUY IT, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD. ALRIGHT. JONATHAN, YOU, UM, I THINK THE COMMENTS FROM EVERYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN HELPFUL. AND I THINK WE COULD GET THIS TO A PLACE WHERE ALL THE CONCERNS ARE HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATED. IF WE WERE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE A MOTION, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOOK FOR, WHICH HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT WOULD AGREE TO, IS A FEW THINGS. NUMBER ONE, A PROGRESS REPORT. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY SPECIFIC USE WITH SOMETHING THAT MIGHT IMPACT NOT JUST RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE'S A PROGRESS SUPPORT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, LET'S CALL IT EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOOK FOR SO THAT A, THE COAST GUARD HAS ANOTHER CHANCE TO SPEAK THROUGHOUT THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF FIRST TWO YEARS. ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, IS THAT IF THE CONCERN IS SPECIAL EVENTS, THEN BRINGING 'EM BACK FOR PROGRESS REPORTS, NOT ALL ON A REGULAR BASIS. WELL, IT'S NOT REGULAR. IT'D BE EVERY SIX MONTHS. SO YOU WOULD HAVE A WINDOW ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS. ONCE EVERY SIX. I'M, I THOUGHT YOU SAID EVERY TWO YEARS. THE FIRST TWO YEARS. OKAY. UH, THAT'S FIRST OF ALL. SECOND OF ALL, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE INCLUDED IN HERE WHERE PARKING HAS TO BE SELF-CONTAINED ON TERMINAL AISLE. SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER KIND OF TO YOUR CONCERN, WHETHER FISHER ISLAND GARAGE HAPPENS OR NOT, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT'S NOW THE PROBLEM OF THE [01:15:01] APPLICANT WHERE THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW EVERYTHING IS SELF-CONTAINED. YOU DON'T HAVE RUNNERS RUNNING TO WHO KNOWS WHERE. UM, WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY CREATE EVEN MORE CONGESTION. MM-HMM . I THINK, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFOREHAND WHERE COAST GUARD HAS TO BE SENT NOTICE OF ANY AND ALL SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEIR COMMENTS OR OBJECT AND THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS TO TAKE THEIR CONSIDERATION OR, OR I'D SAY WE NEED THE COAST GUARD'S APPROVAL APPROVAL. MICHELLE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE, WOULD YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, AND, AND NEEDS AND ALSO WHAT, WHAT IF IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ABLE TO BE DONE, BUT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF IT WERE SENT TO THE COMMANDER OF THE COAST GUARD SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN. BECAUSE I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN I SEE YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING THE NOTICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS? YES. YEAH, BECAUSE I, THAT, THAT'S WHO I THINK SHOULD GET IT. THE COMMANDER, THAT'S WHO THEY CLAIM. BECAUSE WHEN WE, WHEN WHEN I SEE NOTICES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET AN EMAIL AND IT'LL SAY NORTH BEACH, SOUTH BEACH, MID BEACH. YEAH. NOT LIKE I'M SAYING IT SHOULD BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO THE COMMON, TO THE COMMANDER OF COMMANDER, WHATEVER IT IS. YES. YES. AND, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT SHOULD PROCEED. UM, IN TERMS OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS, KINDA MY BIGGEST CONCERN SEEING THIS WAS THE 10. BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, IF YOU HAVE 10, YOU COULD REALLY DO ONE A MONTH, WHATEVER IT IS. I MEAN, MR. GRIFFIN HAS ONLY BEEN HERE FOR, WHAT, FOUR YEARS? IT'S USUALLY AT THE FIFTH YEAR THAT THEY TAKE ON THE MIAMI MANTRA OF LOVING THOSE RAGES. BUT ASSUMING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO MR. GRIFFIN, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT. MAYBE WE DON'T THINK THAT'LL HAPPEN. EIGHT OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS. 'CAUSE THAT KIND OF MAKES SURE THAT HE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE ONE A MONTH OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE TOTALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR THE NEARBY, UM, AREAS. SO, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I VIEW IT. I THINK THAT'S A COMPROMISE THAT REALLY INCORPORATES ALL THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS. AND IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS, I MEAN, THAT'S THE MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE. CAN, CAN I ASK, UH, THE CITY, THE, WHAT ARE NUMBER ONE IS WHEN THEY DO SPECIAL EVENTS, DO THEY DO TRAFFIC STUDIES? LIKE, IS THAT PART OF IT? IT IS IF, DEPENDING ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THE EVENT. SO THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND TYPICALLY A LARGE EVENT, 300 PEOPLE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A LARGE EVENT WOULD BE HAVE A CIRCULATION PARKING PLAN, UH, REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION NOT TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS SECTION AT THIS JUNCTURE, WHAT, OTHER THAN LIKE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, WERE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU FELT THAT YOU WERE MISSING THAT NORMALLY WOULD BE PART OF THIS SORT OF APPLICATION? YEAH, WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR, FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. IF THIS IS GONNA BE A 2:00 AM 5:00 AM UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS TYPE OF VERY UNIQUE FACILITY, I THINK A SECURITY PLAN WOULD BE IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR THE COAST GUARD, BUT THE MARINA ITSELF IS GONNA BE VERY HIGH SECURITY. AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY WANTING TO GO TO THESE PARTIES. SO MY, YOU KNOW, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, IS THE SECURE, ARE THEY REALLY GONNA ALLOW VEHICLES THAT FAR INTO THE SITE, OR ARE THEY GONNA STOP THEM MUCH CLOSER TO THE GATE AND DO A SECURITY CHECK? I MEAN, THAT COULD CAUSE A BACKUP OF TRAFFIC, RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA LET CARS DRIVE IN. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A, A CHECKPOINT WHERE EITHER THEY'RE GONNA INSPECT THE VEHICLE OR, YOU KNOW, GET EVERYONE'S IDENTITIES IN THE CAR CONFIRMED BEFORE THEY LEFT. THE, WHEN, WHEN AN, WHEN AN APPLICANT APPLIES FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT, DO THEY APPLY KIND OF ALL AT ONCE OR IT'S ONE AT A TIME? AT AT A TIME. AT A TIME. OKAY. SO I MEAN, ASSUMING THAT'S THE CASE THEN, AND THERE WERE ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE EVENT, THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AGAIN FOR THE NEXT APPROVAL AND IT WOULD EITHER BE APPROVED OR DENIED BASED ON WHATEVER EXPERIENCE WAS ORIGINALLY HAD. CORRECT? CORRECT. THE, THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT ARE DISCRETIONARY BY THE CITY. RIGHT. BUT EVERYTHING YOU JUST CONCERNED, EVERYTHING YOU EXPRESS IS A CONCERN. WOULDN'T THAT BE RIGHT OF ALSO THE CONCERN OF THE PERSON WHO GRANTS THE PERMIT? EXACTLY. POTENTIALLY. HOLD ON. AND MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE, WE HOLD SHOWED YOU WANNA MAKE SURE SHOWED YOU THAT THERE'S A 21 STACKING AND CUING SPACES BEHIND THE SECURITY CHECKPOINT. I MEAN, THIS IS, LOOK AT THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS LOCATION. WE HAVE MORE THAN AMPLE ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE EVENTS OF THE SIZE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO PLACE IN THE CITY I CAN THINK OF THAT IS BETTER SUITED FOR THAT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANNA ASK STAFF SOMETHING BECAUSE MY VIEW IS, UM, IF THEY AGREE TO THE A HUNDRED FEET AUDIBLE, PLAINLY AUDIBLE AND THEY REQUIRE COAST GUARD CONSENT, I'M FINE WITH THE WHOLE THING. ARE YOU FINE WITH THAT? YEAH, I THINK, AND WHEN I SAY COAST GUARD CONSENT, THAT THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSENT. SO IF THEY HAVE OBJECTIONS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COAST GUARD, FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR OBJECTIONS ARE AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT. AND IF THEY DO AND THE COAST GUARD SAYS WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS, THEN WE'RE GOOD. AND IF THEY SAY NO, WE'RE NOT, THEN THEY, THEY WON'T ISSUE IT. YOU CO ARE YOU GOOD WITH, I I [01:20:01] I FIND THAT IS, I THINK PARTICULARLY WITH COAST GUARD CONSENT, THAT THAT DEFINITELY TAKES CARE OF THE IMPACT OF COAST. WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT, THEN I'M GONNA PASS ON TO MELISSA THEN I THINK WITH THOSE, AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT I, AND ALL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS YOU MENTIONED, MR. CEMENT, WE ARE, ARE AGREEABLE TO. OKAY. OKAY. MELISSA, WHAT ABOUT PRE COMPLETION PROJECT? COMPLETION OF SPECIAL EVENTS? THAT'S FINE. YEAH, I'LL INCLUDE THAT. NOT UNTIL IT'S DONE. THAT'S FINE. SO, SO YOU WOULD NEED A TCO ON THE PROJECT IN ORDER TO START HAVING OR TO BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL THAT'S FINE. IT'S GONNA BE A CONSTRUCTION SITE. WE'RE NOT GONNA WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE HAVING, UH, YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SECURITY READY AND OPERATIONS. SO YOU A TCO. YEAH. YEAH. JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY QUESTIONS. THE SITTING, UM, TO THE STAFF HERE, SORRY. THE, WHEN A PROJECT IS APPROVED LIKE THIS AND, AND THERE IS, UM, UM, UH, SOME OF THE CONCERNS HERE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO, UH, AN EVENT WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION'S NOT TOTALLY FINISHED WHEN WE APPROVE A PROJECT, ISN'T IT UNDER THE CONDITION THAT THE EVERYTHING IS LAID OUT AND THE ARCHITECTURE'S LAID OUT, BUT THE LANDSCAPING IS LAID OUT? YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING WOULD TECHNICALLY PROHIBIT THEM FROM TRYING TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT NOTWITHSTANDING THIS, THIS APPROVAL. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT SPECIAL EVENTS ARE ALSO REVIEWED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, LIFE SAFETY CODES ARE REQUIRED TO BE COMPLIED WITH. AND I DON'T THINK WE, I DON'T, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR, IT'S GONNA BE A CONSTRUCTION SITE. SO, YEAH. YEAH. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, THERE'S NO PLAN FOR ANY PRE-CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. UM, WE'RE DOING A, A MAJOR PORT SEAWALL JOB. WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE HA WE'RE ALL PERMANENT AND JUST WAITING FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH BUILDING PERMIT. WE HAVE DURHAM ARMY CORPS. OKAY. I AGREE. WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT AS A CONDITION. SO THEN LIKE TO ME IT'S LIKE WHAT'S THE, IF THIS, THAT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA TAKE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS TO YEAR, OUR CONTRACTORS MOBILIZING INTO THE SITE ON NOVEMBER 15TH. RIGHT. AND THAT'S GREAT. I JUST, WHAT'S THE RUSH TO, TO PUSH THROUGH THESE SPECIAL EVENTS APPROVALS NOW? I AGREE. BEFORE AGREE THE FINAL, WELL, HOLD ON. I MEAN, DID YOU HEAR ALL THE CONDITIONS WE'RE PUTTING ON THEM? I, I DID, I I, I STILL LIKE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT ANALYSIS HASN'T REALLY BEEN DONE BY THE, THE CITY. NOT TO MENTION THESE PLANS CAN CHANGE, RIGHT? SO LIKE CONSTRUCTION PLANS CHANGE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN A SECURITY PLAN, A QUEUING PLAN. I, I'M JUST SAYING, WELL, THERE IS A QUEUING PLAN, THERE'S NOT A SPECIAL EVENT. THERE WILL 20, THERE'LL BE 24 HOUR SECURITY ON THIS SITE ALL THE TIME. I, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH, WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE GONNA VOTE. AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT DOESN'T PASS. ALRIGHT. SO, SO I, I'M, UM, I I'M, I'M IN LINE WITH MOST OF WHAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT WE WANT AS CONDITIONS. UM, ONE THING THAT IS A CONCERN IS WHAT, UH, STAFF HAS MENTIONED IS, YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SECURITY CHECKPOINTS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE A CONDITION ALSO IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS FRAMED IN A WAY WHERE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE OF QUEUING AGAIN, UM, UH, DUE TO SECURITY CHECKPOINTS. UM, AND, AND IN REGARDS TO PARKING THE SAME THING. ONSITE PARKING IS AN IMPORTANT PART SO THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, CREATING ANY ISSUES. AND I'M ASSUMING THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF DEALING WITH IT. UH, YOU GUYS HAVE A BIG DOCK. I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S A EXTERNAL AT ANOTHER PORT WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE MOVED FROM, FROM ONE PARKING SPACE TO, TO THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT HAS TO BE DEFINITELY A, UH, PART OF THE PLAN, LIKE A CLARITY THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY BACKUP, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE SECURITY POINT OR THE TRAFFIC FOR THE PARKING. SO, UM, SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, THAT THIS IS LIKE SUPER CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DEALING WITH THAT. UM, I AM NOT CONCERNED WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH THE TYPE OF PARTIES ARE GONNA HAPPEN THERE FROM, FROM KNOWING, UH, UM, INDIRECTLY. UM, MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL WITH MR. GRIFFIN. WE WOULD, HE'S A MEMBER AT, AT THE SAME GOLF COURSE. WE'VE, HE'S RESPECTFUL. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING HERE WITH NOISY PARTIES. UM, BUT AGAIN, UM, AS TO, AS THE REST OF THE BOARD IS, IS, IS SPEAKING OF, WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A AFFECTING THEIR DIRECT NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAIN CONCERN. SO, UM, I I, THERE'S A BALANCE FOR US TO BE APPROVING, UH, SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN BE MOVING FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS. I THINK, UH, THE COAST GUARD IS A BIG ONE THAT YOU GUYS FAILED NOT SHOWING UP WITH SOME, SOME OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEEDED TO SEE. I THINK WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IN TODAY, IT ADDRESSES SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND IT PUTS A, AT LEAST A SLOW DOWN TO, UM, UH, SHOULD WE HAVE, SHOULD WE HAVE SOME, SHOULD THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO BE, UH, SHOWING UP OR, OR, OR, UM, ADDRESSING. SO, UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOURS? WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT THAT WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE HOURS. AND THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS, TO THE SPECIAL EVENT, CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT. SO THAT THE COAST GUARD WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE, AND TRULY, AGAIN, AT THIS POINT, THE HOURS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR, THIS IS AN ISOLATED, SO THE ONLY DIRECT NEIGHBOR IS THE COAST GUARD, WHICH ARE, WE'RE PUTTING IN THE CONDITION THAT THEY GET TO REVIEW IT ANYWAY. CORRECT. SO I THINK WE ADDRESS THAT AND WE WE'RE PASSING THAT ON TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. SO [01:25:01] TO ME, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I THINK WE SHOULD BE MOVING IT FORWARD WITH THE CONDITIONS, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO POINT IN BRINGING PEOPLE BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN WE WERE GONNA BE DOING THE SAME DISCUSSION BACK THEN. THE ONLY CONCERN WAS WITH THE COAST GUARD, AND I THINK WE WERE ADDRESSING IT IN, IN WHAT WE'RE PUTTING AS CONDITIONS IN HERE. SO CAN YOU GUYS, LET'S, LET'S LAY OUT WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE BEFORE WE VOTE. MM-HMM . CAN WE DO THAT? IF, IF WHO WANTS TO DO THAT? IF I, IF I WERE TO MAKE, MAKE THE MOTION, IF I WERE TO MAKE THE MOTION, UH, THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL EVENTS PROVIDED THAT THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE. NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR TWO YEARS FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING ISSUANCE OF CO NUMBER TWO, INSTEAD OF 10 PERMITTED SPECIAL EVENTS, I WOULD SUGGEST EIGHT SPECIAL EVENTS. NUMBER THREE, ALL PARKING HAS TO BE SELF-CONTAINED ON TERMINAL AISLE. NUMBER FOUR, NO SPECIAL EVENTS UNTIL RECEIPT OF TCO NUMBER THREE, THE COAST GUARD HAS TO PROVIDE APPROVAL. NUMBER FIVE, ACTUALLY, SORRY, NUMBER FIVE. FOR ALL, FOR ALL SPECIAL EVENTS. EACH AND EVERY NUMBER SIX, UM, ANY FUTURE OWNER HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER PERCENTAGE OWNERSHIP IS TRANSFERRED. AND THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD BE, UH, THERE SHALL BE NO QUEUING ON THE CAUSEWAY AS A RESULT OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS OR ANY TYPE OF SPECIAL EVENTS. UH, PLAN. WE AGREED TO ALL OF THAT. MR. SAMANTHA, THERE'S ONE TYPO, UH, IN THE, UH, ORDER A NUMBER TWO I WHERE IT SAYS ABOUT, UH, NO PARKING MAY OCCUR BETWEEN THE GATEHOUSE AND THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY. MM-HMM . IT SAYS ALL PARKING THAT EXCEEDS SIX. ALL ALLOTTED GUEST PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED TO PARK WITH THE INTERIOR. 11. THAT SHOULD BE 11. THERE ARE, YEP. MM-HMM . NOT SIX, RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY. CAN I, CAN WE SAY FOR THE, UM, SO FOR THE 2D, FOR THE FIRE BILL, FOR THE SPEAKERS AND TELEVISIONS DIRECT THE SPEAKERS AWAY FROM THE COAST GUARD STATION MM-HMM . UM, AMBIENT. AND, AND ALSO THAT ANY AND ALL SOUND SHALL BE AMBIENT. YES. THANK ANYONE ELSE? YES. OH, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY ADD ACCEPTED. ALRIGHT. I WOULD SECOND THAT ACCEPTED. ALL CONDITIONS ACCEPTED. OKAY. AND IF THAT, BY THE WAY, TO BE HONEST, I, I THINK EVEN IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THIS, WE'RE A WAY BETTER POSITION TODAY THAN WE WOULD'VE BEEN IF THIS WAS CONTINUED TO, ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A SECOND. I'D LIKE YOU TO ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE. SO, OKAY. IF I, IF I COULD JUST, UM, ADD A CONDITION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. YES. SO IN THE TRANSPORTATION MEMO, THEY HAD, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAD A RECOMMENDED CONDITION. IT'S, UM, ON PAGE THREE OF THE TRANSPORTATION MEMO, IT'S CONDITION NUMBER TWO THAT A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR PRIVATE EVENTS. UM, THIS IS BASICALLY A STANDARD, UH, CONDITION THAT THE OPERATIONAL PLAN MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS. UM, THAT WASN'T PUT IN BECAUSE WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT THE SPECIAL EVENTS BE CONTINUED, BUT IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS WE'RE ACCEPTED, WE WOULD LIKE THAT CONDITION TO BE INCLUDED. OKAY. UM, AND IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION, UM, CONDITION I WHERE IT SAYS SIX, THOSE SIX SPACES, THAT WAS A CONDITION FROM TRANSPORTATION, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE SPECIFIC SIX SPACES THAT ARE LOCATED IN FRONT, PRETTY MUCH ADJACENT TO THE STREET, RIGHT? YES. THEY'RE SAYING THERE ARE 11 SPACES IN FRONT, THOUGH. THERE ARE 11 GUEST SPACES TOTAL, BUT RIGHT. THE, THE SIX. THE THE SIX. BUT AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY THAT THAT REFERS TO THE SIX SPACES IN FRONT, YES. THAT CONDITION IS SPECIFIC TO ONLY THOSE SIX SPACES. YEAH. OKAY. NO, THERE'S THE MOTION. YOU, YOU SATISFY MY, MY COAST GUARD TO PROVE ALL KEITH. THERE WE GO. I'LL, IS IT SECONDED? WE'RE VOTING YES. OKAY. YES, YES. CUT. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE, I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE WILL BE THE BEST NEIGHBOR. THE COAST GUARD HAS EVER YOU EARNED YOUR MONEY. . THANKS FOR ALL YOUR PRESENTATIONS. IT HELPS. AND GLAD WE COULD COME TO A FAIR RESOLUTION. SO, YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE ON TO, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN [7. PB25-0805, Temporary Conditional Use Regulations in Commercial Districts ] CODE AMENDMENTS. THERE'S PLANNING BOARD FILED 25 0 8 0 5 TEMPORARY CONDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. OKAY. UH, IT'S ON PAGE. UM, IT'S NOT NUMBERED. IT'S NOT NUMBERED ANYWAY, NOT NUMBERS THIS TIME. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO THIS IS, UH, LEGISLATION THAT WAS, UH, IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER ALEX FERNANDEZ [01:30:02] PERTAINING TO, UM, TEMPORARY REGULATIONS, SPECIFICALLY TARGETING THE VACANT VACANCIES IN OUR, UM, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO WOULD, IT WOULD ALLOW, UM, IF A PROJECT MEETS CERTAIN THRESHOLDS AND IS LOCATED IN ONE OF THE, UM, TARGETED COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, A STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE A CUP IN FRONT OF THIS PLANNING BOARD IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OCCUPANCY OF AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT. UM, WE DISCUSSED THIS ORDINANCE AT THE OCTOBER MEETING, UH, IF THE BOARD MEMBERS RECALL, AND WE WERE TASKED WITH COMING BACK, UM, WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE, THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE, WITH THE ITEM SPONSOR, UM, FOR SOME, SOME OF THESE CHANGES. SO IF, I'M JUST GONNA REALLY QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LAST MONTH AND, AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. THE FIRST CHANGE IS THAT THE 41ST STREET, UM, CORRIDOR BETWEEN ALTON ROAD AND PINE TREE DRIVE HAS NOW BEEN INCLUDED AS ONE OF THE ELIGIBLE AREAS. UM, THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING. SO, NUMBER ONE, UM, THAT EXISTING BUSINESSES WITH A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OR AN EXISTING CUP ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THIS ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. OUR CONCERN WAS THAT WE HAVE, UM, EXISTING CS THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NOT LIKE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THEIR EXISTING CP. SO THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA ABANDON OUR CUP AND WE'RE GONNA GO FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. SO THIS WOULD HELP AVOID THAT. UM, THE ORDINANCE HAS ALSO BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE A PROHIBITION ON ROOFTOP ACTIVATION. SO ROOFTOP ACTIVATION WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY ASSOCIATED WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT APPLICATION, UH, HAS BEEN LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 750 PERSONS. AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW APPROVAL PROCEDURES WERE CLARIFIED TO INDICATE THAT A BTR FOR THIS, THE NIE, UM, WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND FINALLY, WE MODIFIED THE ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTY SECTION, UM, TO MAKE THE ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES SUBJECT TO REVOCATION BY THE CITY MANAGER CONSISTENT TO THE PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO REVOKE A BTR SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD PEOPLE DO THAT CAUSES A REVOCATION OF THE BTR WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH REVOKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT ESTABLISHMENT APPROVAL. SO THAT WOULD BE THE UPDATES. UM, SORRY, THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY, WOULD HE REVOKE, REVOKE THE BTR OR WOULD IT BE THE CUP? WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE A CUP, IT WOULD BE AN, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A NEIGHBORHOOD, AN ADMINISTRATIVE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT APPROVAL COULD BE REVOKED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAME CRITERIA THAT CURRENTLY ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO REVOKE A BER. THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, SO WE DON'T HAVE REVOCATION STANDARDS, AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS TO MAKE THOSE STANDARDS FOR REVOCATION THE SAME AS THE CURRENT BER. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD CRITERIA. YEAH. MY QUESTION WAS WHO, WHO ACTUALLY MADE ALL THESE CHANGES? 'CAUSE IT WAS EVERYTHING WE SPOKE ABOUT, AND I ASSUME THERE'S NO PUSHBACK. I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT. UM, THE LAST, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT MADE THE CHANGES IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WITH THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER, UH, FERNANDEZ. SO I, I, I WASN'T, UH, PRIVY TO THIS LAST MEETING. UM, BUT JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, IS THIS CITYWIDE? CAN WE MAKE IT CITYWIDE? I THINK SO. WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT LAST MEETING. THE REASON, OKAY. SORRY, I'M NO, IT'S OKAY. MEANING WE, WE ASKED THE SAME THING LAST MEETING. THE REASON WHY IT WAS ULTIMATELY DETERMINED NOT IS BECAUSE THE GOALS TO TRY AND ENERGIZE THESE SPECIFIC AREAS DOWN. SO WE DO THE SAME THING ON 71ST STREET. I, I THINK 71ST STREET WAS INCLUDED IN IT. I, I DON'T KNOW. I I'M, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS INCLUDED. IT'S ONE OF, IT'S ONE OF THE AREAS IN THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, LOOK, I, I MISSED THIS MEETING, SO, OH, WE ASKED THE SAME THING. UM, OKAY. SO THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT I'VE, UM, YOU'VE GOT IN HERE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR QUITE A WHILE. UM, OTHER CITIES HAVE SIGNS POSTED THAT ARE AT LEAST THIS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE THE SIZES OF, OF THEY'RE HUGE. UM, WHAT KIND OF SIGNAGE SIGN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THESE, WHAT WE SEE AS POSTED SIGNAGE AND, AND EVERYTHING ARE THESE LITTLE STAKES IN THE GROUND WITH 11 BY 14 PIECES OF PAPER THAT ARE, THAT YOU CAN'T READ. [01:35:01] YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR TO GET TO GO READ THEM. I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE IN OH, THE NOTICES? THE NOTICES IT, YEAH. RIGHT HERE. UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE WHERE IT SAYS, UH, THE APPLICATION MOUNTED, LAMINATED POSTING IN THE FORM OF PRESCRIBED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IN A MANNER AND LOCATION CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. THAT NEEDS TO BE ENLARGED. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THE BOARD CONSIDER IS, UM, THIS IS AN, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, UM, SO THAT ANY NOTICE, ANY NOTICE THAT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY GONNA BE IN THE NATURE OF A COURTESY NOTICE. UM, IF WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE, THE, THE SIZE OF THE POSTED NOTICE FOR APPLICATIONS THAT DO REQUIRE LAND USE BOARD APPROVAL, THEN MAYBE, MAYBE, UM, MAYBE YOU COULD MAKE THAT AS A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER. BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU MAKE THIS NOTICE LARGER THAN ALL THE OTHER NOTICES, IT MIGHT GIVE A FALSE IMPRESSION THAT THIS ONE'S GOING TO A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN IT'S NOT. SO I GUESS THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL TAKE THAT UP WITH A, I'LL DEAL WITH THAT IN A DIFFERENT, AND YOU COULD BRING THAT UP A AS A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU'D LIKE. THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM. THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA, OKAY. SO, SO, AND I'M SORRY, IF YOU CAN JUST INDULGE ME FOR A MINUTE. UM, ARE ALL OF THE, ARE ALL OF THE VINES AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN EVERYTHING. IF THEY'VE HAD MORE THAN THREE VIOLATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, ARE THOSE EVERY, ALL THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF? SO, UM, THE ORDINANCE BEEN, HAS BEEN REVISED SINCE THE PLANNING BOARD'S FIRST HEARING ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. UM, TO PROVIDE THAT A BTR SHALL BE SUBJECT TO SUSPENSION OR MODIFICATION BY THE CITY MANAGER. THAT IS OUR ENFORCEMENT PROCESS FOR, UH, FOR THESE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL SINCE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE LIKE THE MODIFICATION OR REVOCATION PROCESS THAT, THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE SUBJECT TO. UM, AND THERE'S A, UH, A LIST OF REASONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC NUISANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. A, UM, A BTR COULD BE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED. IT'S, IT'S THE FIRST PAGE RIGHT AFTER THE STAFF REPORT, AND AT THE TOP IT SAYS SECTION 1 0 2 DASH 3 81. THAT'S WHAT I'M READING. YEAH. SO THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT BASES FOR WHICH, UM, THE BTR COULD BE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED. OKAY. SO IS THERE A WAY, SO WE, WE SEE NUISANCE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY CITED AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY BEING ALLOWED TO OPERATE, CONTINUE TO OPERATE. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT IN THAT SAYS HAVE TO HAVE IT REVOKED? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S AT THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION NOW, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE REVOKED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION. SO WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO STRENGTHEN THAT A LITTLE BIT? WELL, THIS IS NOT GOING TO, WHEN YOU SAY NUISANCE USED, YOU MEAN I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THINGS WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY ONLY RELATES TO, UM, RESTAURANTS, UH, BARS. YEP. UM, AND, AND SMALLER ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS INDOOR ONLY. RIGHT. SO THE, THE ONLY ENTERTAINMENT THAT IS ALLOWED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WOULD BE IF THE ENTERTAINMENT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A SUPPER CLUB VENUE. OKAY. SO A BAR WITH ENTERTAINMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS PROCESS. UM, OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, GRANDFATHERING CAME UP AS A A CALLER LAST TIME SINCE THIS IS TEMPORARY AND THIS GOES AWAY AFTER A YEAR. BUT THE NIEI GUESS ONCE YOU GET THIS, IT, IT CONTINUES ON, IS THERE A REPEAL OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT THE NEXT PERSON THAT TAKES OVER THAT SPOT HAS TO COME BACK THROUGH A CUP PROCESS THAT THEY CANNOT INHERIT? I LIKE THAT. THIS AS A RIGHT, LIKE THAT A LOT SPECIAL PERMIT. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT WOULD BE WITH A PROJECT THAT IS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY IS WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEC WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. RIGHT. THERE'S, THERE'S, WELL, THAT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN. WELL, NO, BUT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A REALITY IS, IS IF A, IF, IF A IF AN INTEREST IN A BUSINESS, UM, SELLS, UM, UNDER THIS PROCESS, THERE'S NO VETTING, THEN IT COULD, IT COULD BE RUN REALLY WELL TWO YEARS FROM NOW, OWNERSHIP CHANGES AND THEY CHANGE THE ENTIRE CONCEPT. THEY CAN STILL RUN ON THE NIE [01:40:01] AND NOT COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, NOT COME THROUGH ANY ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. IS THAT WHAT THAT IS NOT THE DANGER OF THIS, ALL OF THE SAME, UM, CONDITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE, ALL THE SAME REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY TO ANY NEW OWNER. UM, SO THEY'RE INHERITING THE NIE AND WE CAN'T SAY YOU, THIS IS A TEMPORARY PROGRAM WHICH ALEX IS TRYING TO DRIVE FOR A YEAR. AND WE SAY THAT IF ANYONE WHO GETS THIS CHANGES MATERIALLY 51% OF OWNERSHIP, THEN, THEN YOU HAVE TO, THE NEW OWNERS HAVE TO APPLY FOR A CUP. WHAT I THINK YOU COULD DO IS IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF, OF OWNER OR OPERATOR, SIMILARLY TO WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR, IN YOUR BOARD ORDERS, THAT, THAT, FOR PROJECTS THAT DO REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL, UHHUH IS YOU COULD REQUIRE THAT THE NEW OWNER OR OPERATOR SUBMIT, UM, A WRITTEN AFFIDAVIT TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THAT THEY AGREE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE SAME RESTRICTIONS, UM, THAT THAT WILL BE BINDING ON THEM. FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE WOULD BE BINDING ON A NEW OWNER ANYWAY. BUT WE COULD, UM, AMEND THIS TO ADDITIONALLY REQUIRE AN AFFIDAVIT. WHAT I DON'T THINK WE COULD SAY IS A NEW OWNER HAS TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS THIS, EVEN THOUGH THIS GOES AWAY, THIS IS A SUNSET. RIGHT. THIS HAS A SUNSET. IT HAS A SUNSET. YEAH. BUT ONCE YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU GET ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL DURING THE ONE YEAR YEAH. INCENTIVE PROGRAM, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE VESTED IN THAT APPROVAL. YOU'RE, YOU'RE DONE. BUT IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT RESTAURANT, A DIFFERENT OWNER. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GRANDFATHER FOR YOUR GRANDFATHERING IN A PROGRAM SUPPOSED TO, ALL'S SAYING IS THEY WOULD BE BOUND BY THE SAME RESTRICTIONS. JUST, WELL, LET ME, BEFORE WE CONTINUE THIS, IS THERE ANYBODY ON ZOOM TO SPEAK ON THAT? I WANNA, I WANNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. UM, WE HAVE AMY MAYHEW. OKAY. AMY, GOOD MORNING. OKAY. HELLO. GOOD, GOOD MORNING. HI. GOOD MORNING. AMY MAYHEW WITH THE 41ST STREET BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM. WE ARE EXCITED BY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO OFFER, UM, THE ABILITY FOR SOME TYPE OF INSIDE LIVE AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT, UM, ON THE STREET. IT'D BE A GREAT OFFERING. UM, AND I KNOW OTHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS IN THE, IN THE AREA ALSO SIMILARLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT AS WELL. 'CAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING OFFERED JUST OUTSIDE THE CAUSEWAY. UM, SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF BEING ABLE TO, UM, SHORTEN THE PROCESS JUST AS A TEMPORARY TIME. UM, AND IT JUST AS A POINT OF QUE QUESTION AND CLARIFICATION, THE BTR REVOCATION, WAS THAT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE REVOCATION OF THIS PER PERMIT OR NO, IT WOULD JUST BE, THOSE WOULD BE THE, THE, THE CONDITIONS BY WHICH THIS PERMIT WOULD THEN BE REVOKED. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THING I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT. FOR OUR OWN, UM, WITH IT, NICK, THE, UM, THE, THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT, UH, THAT, THAT DEBBIE AND I HAVE OUTLINED TO THE BOARD WOULD APPLY TO WHATEVER USE IS BEING ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED RIGHT. UNDER THE, UNDER THE PROGRAM. SO WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 'CAUSE THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL. IT WOULD INSTEAD BE, UM, WE'RE, WE WOULD CALL IT AN ADMINISTRATIVE NIE APPROVAL. SO YES, THAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE NIE APPROVAL. GOT IT. PERFECT THEN. LOVE IT. AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE, UM, AND HOPE THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WANNA SEE ANYTHING MORE DIRE HAPPEN IF THERE WERE A VIOLATION. JUST BE ABLE TO SUSPEND THAT RIGHT. TO ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE HOPE YOU ALL CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU. THANKS, AMY. ANYTHING, ANY, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YEAH. JUST LET, LET, OH, UM, I'M READING THIS RIGHT NOW AND IT'S SAYING THAT IF THE APPLICATION IS LOCATED IN COMMERCIALLY ZONES WITHIN COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 65TH AND 75TH STREET, THAT'S AN, THAT IS, UM, WHAT IF IT'S WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF WHAT IF IT'S WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, AS IN MAYBE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, LIVES NEXT DOOR. I, I'M JUST TRYING TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS THE, THIS IS SAYING IT SHALL NOT REQUIRE C CONDITIONAL USE FROM THE PLANNING BOARD IF IT'S LOCATED ON A COMMERCIALLY ZONED WITHIN FIFTH AND LINCOLN, COLLINS AND ALTON 65TH [01:45:01] TO 75TH, THAT'S NEIGHBORHOODS, THOSE ARE LITERALLY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE I LIVE IN. SO ALL RESIDENTS, LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S TELL ME HOW THAT WOULD WORK. NO ROOFTOPS, NO NOTHING. IS THAT RIGHT. SO NO ROOFTOPS, NO OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. OKAY. UM, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY WHEN ASSOCIATED WITH A SUPPER CLUB. SO A BONAFIDE REAL RESTAURANT. OKAY. UM, I'M JUST ENSURING I WASN'T HERE LAST TIME, SO, OKAY. I THINK YOU SAID THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE ON ZOOM YOU SAID? YES, WE HAVE, UH, TROY. TROY WRIGHT. HI, TROY. TROY. HELLO EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. HAPPY VOTING DAY. UM, MY NAME IS TROY WRIGHT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UM, REPRESENTING OVER 100 PROPERTY OWNERS AND 300 BUSINESSES ALONG THE CORRIDOR. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY CONDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS. UM, FOR YEARS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, UM, HAVE FACED LONG DELAYS AND HIGH COST JUST TO OPEN A RESTAURANT, CAFE, OR MUSIC VENUE. UH, THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDES A SENSIBLE TIMELINE SOLUTION, UM, LIMITED, UM, IT REMOVES UNNECESSARY BARRIERS WHILE KEEPING STRONG SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE FOR SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. SO BY ALLOWING ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW FOR QUALIFIED ESTABLISHMENT, UH, THIS MEASURE WILL ACTIVATE VACANT STORE FRONTS AND BRING BACK WHAT WE BELIEVE JOBS AND REVITALIZE OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. UH, TURNING THE DARK SPACES INTO VIBRANT DESTINATIONS. UM, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WE URGE YOUR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONTINUED DEDICATION TO A BETTER WASHINGTON AVENUE AND MIAMI BEACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD ON. ANYBODY ELSE ON ZOOM? OH, SIR. ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS ON THIS? OKAY. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. GO AHEAD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT FAVORABLY. IT FAVORABLY. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. YOU? ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. IF I COULD JUST GET ONE CLARIFICATION. UM, IS THAT SENDING IT FAVORABLY WITH THE, UM, NOTICE PROVISION OR WITHOUT YES, YES. WITH THE NOTICE, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE NOTICE PROVISION. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YEAH, CORRECT. OKAY. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. THE LAST, OR IT LOOKS [8. PB25-0794, Faena District Overlay – Comprehensive Plan Amendment.] [9. PB25-0795, Faena District Overlay – FAR Preservation Incentive] LIKE COMPANION, UH, CODE AMENDMENTS PLANNING BOARD FILE OH TWO, I'M SORRY. 2 5 0 7 9 4 AND OH 2 7 9 5. THE FINA DISTRICT OVERLAY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND FAR PRESERVATION INCENTIVE. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO THIS IS FOR A, A VERY MINOR, UH, FAR INCREASE WITHIN THE FINA OVERLAY DISTRICT. UM, THE DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2015 TO ALLOW GREATER FLEXIBILITY OF USES HEIGHT AND SETBACKS AS WELL AS TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE HISTORIC COMPONENTS OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE APPLICANT, WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER OF 34 25 COLLINS AVENUE, WHICH IS THE VERSAILLES, SOON TO BE, HOPEFULLY SOON TO BE THE AMMAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT, IS SEEKING TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ALLOW FOR A BONUS FAR. THE BONUS FAR THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS UP TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, AND THEY, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED, IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO PROPERTIES WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT ALSO HAVE A LOT AREA EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN 65,000 SQUARE FEET. SO FROM STAFF'S ANALYSIS, THAT WOULD BE TWO PROP, TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THAT WOULD BE THE VERSAILLES PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE SAXON E PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE FAINA HOTEL PROPERTY. UM, BOTH OF THOSE ALSO CONTAIN A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THIS BONUS THAT WHEN YOU SAY THIS ONLY IMPACT THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, THERE'S NO OTHER BUILDING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER. CORRECT. AND WHEN YOU SAY VERSAILLES, THAT'S THE NEWMAN PROJECT? THAT'S THE OMAN, IT WAS THE HISTORIC VERSAILLES, UM, WHICH IS REALLY, IF YOU'VE SEEN IT LATELY, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A FEAT OF ENGINEERING THAT IT'S STILL THERE. , THEY'RE SAVING THAT ONE LITTLE, YEAH, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING ELSE. BUT, UM, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST, UM, AT LEAST FOR THE, THE VERSAILLES PROPERTY OR THE AMMAN PROJECT, WE HAVE MET WITH THE ARCHITECTS, UM, AND THEIR PLAN IS TO CONVERT WHAT IS DOUBLE HEIGHT SPACE WITHIN THE SHELL OF THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO MECHANICAL AREA. THE CONVERSION OF A DOUBLE HEIGHT SPACE WOULD INCREASE THE FAR. AND HOW SOON CAN THEY DO IT? I MEAN, WE WE'RE, I THINK WE'VE BEEN WAITING, WE'VE BEEN WAITING. I'VE BEEN BEEN WORKING ON IT, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH NOT ONLY THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD SIDE, BUT ALSO [01:50:01] THE HPV SIDE WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND, AND TRYING TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS POSSIBLE. IT'S BEEN MOVING, MOVING EVERYTHING ALONG. YEAH. BY THE WAY, IS THIS STILL BLAVATNIK AND VLAD DOING THE PROJECT? YES, IT IS. OKAY. ARE ARE, CAN I, MAY I JUST ASK WHAT, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW? UH, I SEE SOME, SOME REBAR. IT IS. I, I'LL, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A PROGRESS REPORT. IT'S MOVING FORWARD NOW AT A RAPID PACE. GOOD. UH, BUT UL PATEL, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT, WILL GIVE YOU A BRIEF REPORT ON THAT. OKAY. AND THAT WHOLE LAWSUIT WITH FINDING THAT WAS ALL SAID, EVERYTHING SETTLED, DONE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. OH, YOU MEAN THE, THE HEIGHT ISSUE THAT WAS RESOLVED A LONG BACK IN THE DAY. YEAH, THAT RESOLVED A LONG TIME, LONG TIME AGO. OKAY. GO AHEAD SSON. UH, UH, THANK YOU. IF WE PUT THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE. UH, GOOD MORNING AGAIN. SSON KADEN AND CHRIS PINELLAS OF AKERMAN, LOP, REPRESENTING THE, UH, APPLICANT. AND, UH, THAT THIS IS A PRETTY, UH, UH, UH, UNIQUE BUT SIMPLE SITUATION. THE CODE PROVIDES THAT YOU CAN HAVE FAR MODIFICATIONS OF UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, AND THAT YOU CAN WAIVE THE EXTENDED EXTENSIVE PROCESS FOR OTHER FAR CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MINIMAL. IN THIS INSTANCE HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF AN ADDITIONAL 2.5%. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO, I I THINK YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, PROBABLY EVERYONE'S BEEN TO THE ANA HOTEL MORE THAN ONCE. UH, AND THEN THE AMMAN PROPERTY, THE FORMER VERSAILLES, WHICH IS, UH, IN CONSTRUCTION NOW, UH, THE TEXT IS QUITE SIMPLE. DEBBIE EXPLAINED IT AS WELL THAT IN THE FINA OVERLAY DISTRICT ON A LOT THAT HAS OVER 65,000 SQUARE FEET, WITH A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC BUILDING, YOU CAN GET AN FAR BONUS OF UP TO 5%. LET ME EXPLAIN WHY THIS REALLY IS IMPORTANT, AND IF WE ARE SERIOUS IN THIS CITY ABOUT INCENTIVIZING HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WHY THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IF THEY WERE TO HAVE DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT THE VERSAILLES. AND THE SAME WITH THE, FRANKLY, THE SAXONY HOTEL, THEY COULD HAVE SAVED, PARTICULARLY WITH THE VERSAILLES, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO RETAIN THESE, THE OUTSIDE SHELL SUPER STRUCTURE. IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE. UH, AND SO, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS THOUGH IS YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING'S ENVELOPE. THESE BUILDINGS WERE FIRST BUILT AND DESIGNED IN 19 39, 19 40, OR THE 1950, THE SAXON EIGHT. THEY WEREN'T DESIGNED TO CONTEMPORARY STANDARDS. SO WHAT YOU FIND, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING THE RETROFIT OF THESE BUILDINGS, THERE'S SPACE THAT YOU CAN'T, THAT YOU LOSE, YOU CAN'T USE, AND IT COUNTS, BUT IT COUNTS AGAINST YOU AS FAR IF YOU TRY TO UTILIZE IT. AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU THIS PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO VERSAILLES. SO THIS VERY MINOR AMENDMENT GIVES YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH. HOW DO YOU BRING LIFE BACK TO THESE BUILDINGS AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS SPACE WITHOUT IT BEING COUNTED AGAINST YOU AS FAR. THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THIS AMENDMENT. AND MAHU WILL, WILL, WILL GO THROUGH IT. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE UL NOW, TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH RESPECT TO THE AMMAN PROJECT ITSELF. THANK YOU NEESON. UM, GOOD MORNING. UM, ACTUALLY ALMOST GOOD AFTERNOON. NO, GOOD MORNING STILL. UM, VERY NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK TO THE STAFF AND TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE TIME. UM, WE ARE EXCITED TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN. YOUR, YOUR, YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YES, EXACTLY. MY NAME IS MAAL PATEL. UM, I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR AT OCO GROUP, UM, AND SERVE AS THE PROJECT LEAD FOR 34 25 COLLINS AVENUE, WHICH WILL BECOME THE AMMAN HOTEL AND RESIDENCES BY THE END OF 2027. UH, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS SITE TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. UM, CONSTRUCTION IS PROGRESSING RAPIDLY AT THIS POINT. UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THIS SITE, YOU'LL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER IS STARTING TO GO, COME ABOVE GROUND. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE POURING THE FIFTH FLOOR, UM, BEFORE THANKSGIVING. UM, AND THEN IT'LL CONTINUE TO TOP OUT INTO THE NEW YEAR. AND THEN THE HOTEL STRUCTURE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THE OLD VERSAILLES HOTEL THAT WE'RE GONNA RESTORE, UM, MAGNIFICENTLY TO WHAT WILL BECOME, UM, REALLY JUST THIS TERRIFIC, YOU KNOW, BUILDING COMING UP COLLINS, UM, AND RESTORING IT TO THE ORIGINAL VERSAILLES, UM, IS CHALLENGING TO SAY THE LEAST, TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT BUILDING. UM, AND, UH, WE'VE DONE EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS AS, UM, DEBBIE HAD MENTIONED, UM, TO PUT UP THIS, YOU KNOW, EXTRAORDINARY EXOS STEEL SKELETON. UM, IT'S ABOUT 80 TONS, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, THIS HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND MAINTAIN THAT FACADE WHILE WE THEN NOW START THE EXCAVATION WORK THERE. UM, WHICH IS ALSO VERY CHALLENGING TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, 40 FEET BELOW, UM, GRADE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALONGSIDE THE OCEAN, UM, AND THEN BUILD UP THE, YOU KNOW, EXISTING, YOU KNOW, NEW BUILDING IF YOU WILL, THE NEW HOTEL, UM, THAT WILL THEN ATTACH TO THAT FACADE. [01:55:01] UM, SO AGAIN, NUMEROUS CHALLENGES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. WE'RE VERY PROUD THOUGH OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE. UM, IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNERSHIP WITH HPB, UM, AND THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THE PROGRESS PROJECT POSSIBLE. UM, AND SO WHY WE'RE HERE, OF COURSE, AS MENTIONED, UM, IS REALLY TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TALK ABOUT, UM, UTILIZING ADDITIONAL FAR, UM, THAT'S KIND OF CAPTURED WITHIN THE BUILDING ESSENTIALLY. UM, THERE'S AN EXAMPLE THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MOMENT. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT SPACE AND THAT NEEDS MECHANICAL SPACE, UM, TO BE ACCOMMODATED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC FABRIC. UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT USING SOME OF THAT SPACE THAT'S ABOVE THE LOBBY, THAT'S AVOID SPACE TODAY, PUTTING THE MECHANICAL INTO THAT SPACE, UM, AND LOOKING AT OTHER PLACES WHERE WE CAN DO THAT, UM, AS WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE INS AND OUTS OF ACTUALLY FINISHING THE BUILDING. YOU HAVE THAT NEXT SLIDE? YES, INDEED. IN FACT, THAT SHOWS, THAT SHOWS RIGHT THERE. EXACTLY. I'LL LET YOU TALK TO THIS NIECE IF YOU WOULD. UM, BUT I, I THINK I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY QUICKLY TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO UTILIZE THAT FAR, UM, TO RECAPTURE AND MAKE PRODUCTIVE USE OF THE DEAD OR UNUSED SPACES WITHIN THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. SO THANK, BEFORE YOU SIT, I, SINCE YOU'RE WITH A, I HAVE A NON MIAMI BEACH QUESTION, WHEN IS UNA GONNA BE READY? UM, UNA IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IMMINENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A TCO BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IF NOT SOONER ACTUALLY. YEAH. THIS YEAR. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ASKING FOR A CLIENT , GO. PLEASE BE SURE, PLEASE BE SURE TO BUILD A CLIENT FOR THAT. EXACTLY. . UH, AND THAT REALLY ME WHOLE, UH, SUMMARIZED IT ALL. AS I SAID, THERE ARE THESE SPACES THAT ARE IN THE BUILDINGS THAT, UH, IF YOU UTILIZE 'EM AS IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'D LIKE TO USE 'EM FOR MECHANICAL. THESE VOIDS WOULD OTHERWISE COUNT AS FAR, SO YOU'RE PENALIZED, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY NECESSARY TOOL TO INCENTIVIZE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES. AS I SAID, TEARING IT DOWN AND REBUILDING FROM SCRATCH WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER. MM-HMM . UH, AND I WOULD ALSO, LIKE, I'D BE REMISS SAYING, I KNOW THAT, UH, SHE DOESN'T DO THIS FOR THE PRAISE, BUT DEBBIE HAS BEEN, UH, ALMOST A GODMOTHER FOR THIS PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING, AS SHE HAS SEEN IT THROUGH EVERY ITERATION. SO YOU DON'T SAY GRANDMOTHER, YOU'RE GOOD . I WOULDN'T SAY GRANDMOTHER, NO. OKAY. THAT WAS GOOD. THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE CONTINUED TO HAVE A FIGHT ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS, I MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT, BUT NO AND, UH, BUT I REALLY, LOOK, LET ME SAY THIS, THIS IS A VERY AMBITIOUS PROJECT AND, UH, A PROJECT LIKE THIS CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A HAND AND GLOVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND THEY'VE BEEN TRULY MAGNIFICENT ON THIS AS THEY ARE WITH OTHER SPECIAL PROJECTS WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTS THAT ARE THIS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. THEY REALLY TURN ON THE AFTERBURNERS AND DO A GREAT JOB. SO I WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? AND I'M ASSUMING KNOW ANYONE ON ZOOM ON THIS? WE, YEAH, WE HAVE SOME OTHER IMAGES OF THE HOTELS HISTORICALLY, I THINK YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE THEM. I DON'T THINK THAT HATE IT. NO ONE. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND WANNA MOVE IT? I'LL MOVE IT. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. IT'S BEING MOVED FAVORABLY, I ASSUME. TWO ITEMS AND THAT'S, THAT'S BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YES. SO I GUESS WE GOTTA DO ONE BY ONE, RIGHT? LET'S DO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS PLANNING BOARD FILE 25 7 0 7 9 4. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MELISSA. MELISSA SECOND BY SHE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS PLANNING BOARD FILE OH 7 9 5. THE FAR PRESERVATION INCENTIVE. SO I'M MOVING THAT ONE. SAME MOTION? I'LL SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATS. BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UNA'S. INSANE AS WELL. I GOTTA TELL YOU. IT SOUNDS . MY GOODNESS. HE SEEMS TO BE A FAVOR. EVERYTHING GOOD? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE, UH, MEETING. THANK YOU. WHAT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.