* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TWO, ONE. [00:00:02] GOOD MORNING [ATTENDANCE] AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. UM, OUR CHAIR, JOHN IS OUT TODAY, SO I AM THE LUCKY ONE WHO GETS TO SIT IN HIS SEAT. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER [CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES] TO OUR LOVELY STAFF MEMBERS AND CITY ATTORNEY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GONNA PROGRESS TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT'S STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN TODAY'S MEETING, THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 1 7 4 8 3 4 7 4 8 8. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF YOU'RE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. IF YOU'RE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION. 20 ITEM EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE AND WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING. IF YOU'RE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, FEET MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANY [SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC] MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN, CAN I ASK PGR COMMUNICATIONS TO PROMOTE ME AS A PANELIST ON ZOOM? GREAT. SO, UM, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES, MR. BRESLIN? A SECOND. MR. NOVIK? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NOW WE DO IF ONLY, UM, SIX MEMBERS PRESENT TODAY. SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FOR ANY APPLICATION THAT INCLUDES THEM DEMOLITION, AS WELL AS FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FOR ANY APPLICATION THAT HAS VARIANCES. UM, I DO [REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES/ WITHDRAWALS] BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE, AND THAT IS FOR, UM, HPV FILE, 25 DASH SIX 70 FOR 1835 MICHIGAN AVENUE. WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME UP? IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR, UM, NAME ON THE RECORD. SANDRA HUERTA. AND, UM, YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER OR JANUARY MEETING, PLEASE? I NEED, WOULD YOU LIKE DECEM? I WOULD SAY I WOULD SUGGEST JANUARY. PERFECT. THAT'D BE, UM, JANUARY. LET ME SEE, JUST A SECOND. 23RD. I THINK THAT'D BE THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING. PERFECT. SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ONLY? AGAIN, THIS IS FOR, UM, 1835 MICHIGAN AVENUE. THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR A SEA WALL HEIGHT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE? SEEING NOBODY IN CHAMBERS, ANYBODY ONLINE, THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE WITH A COMMENT ON THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE WITHOUT ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR A MOTION ON THE, UM, REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE? I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE TO THE JANUARY MEETING. SECOND, MR. PRESIDENT. SECOND. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION THAT APPLICATION CONTINUE TO THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU, SIR. WELL, THAT WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST [1. HPB25-0674, a.k.a HPB24-0638, 1210 Michigan Avenue – Single Family Home.] REGULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS FOR, UM, HPP 25 0 6 7 4, UM, 1210 MICHIGAN AVENUE. JUST A SECOND HERE. SO THE BOARD MAY REMEMBER THAT ON, UM, APRIL 22ND OF THIS YEAR, THE BOARD APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1940, ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BY ALBERT ANNIS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY OF SINGLE FRIENDLY HOME [00:05:01] WITH AN UNDERSTORY THAT APPLICANT IS NOW SEEKING MODIFICATIONS OF THOSE OF THOSE PLANS IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE A ROOF DECK, WHICH IS NOT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. NOW THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIRED 10 FOOT SIDE FACING THE STREET SETBACK FOR ROOF DECKS, ALLOWING THE DECK TO ALIGN WITH THE SETBACK OF THE FLOOR BELOW. UM, THE ROOF DECK SETBACK REQUIREMENT WAS ADOPTED, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO MAINTAIN PRIVACY FOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. NOW, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS UNUSUAL IN THAT IT'S ONLY 50 FEET IN WIDTH. TYPICALLY, UM, CORNER LOTS ARE, UM, 60 FEET IN WIDTH, AND THAT'S TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE EXTRA SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED, REQUIRED FOR CORNER PROPERTIES. FOR EXAMPLE, A CORNER PROPERTY REQUIRES A 15 FOOT SETBACK ON A SIDE FACING THE STREET VERSUS A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT INTERIOR SETBACK, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ALLOWED, UM, BECAUSE THIS LOT IS, IS UNDERSIZED IN TERMS OF THAT LOT WIDTH AS WELL AS THE, UM, COMPLYING WITH THE SETBACKS. WE ONLY ALLOW A, UM, A DECK OF 10 FEET IN WIDTH. THAT WOULD BE UP WITH A 10 FOOT SETBACK ON THE SIDE FACING THE STREET AND INTERIOR SIDE. UM, THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE SIDE FACING THE STREET SETBACK, SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE PRIVACY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. AND THE APPLICANT'S ALSO REQUESTING A, A WAIVER OF THE, OF THE TWO STORY, UM, SIDE, SIDE SETBACK STANDARDS, WHICH, UM, REQUIRE AN OPEN COURTYARD ALONG AN, UH, A SIDE ELEVATION. NOW, THE PRIOR APPLICATION DID INCLUDE, DID MEET THAT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT HAS A, A COURTYARD OR THIS, THIS APPLICATION INCLUDES A, A CIRCULAR STAIRCASE THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN THAT AREA TO ACCESS THE ROOF DECK THAT DOES REDUCE THE OVERALL, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE TO WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UM, LESS THAN WHAT THE CODE IS REQUIRED. HOWEVER, THIS IS A DESIGN WAIVER THAT THE BOARD, UM, CAN GRANT. SO FOR THE REASONS I'VE INDICATED AS WELL AS THE REASONS THE PORT, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE, FOR THE SETBACK FOR THE, UH, ROOF DECK, AS WELL AS THE, THE WAIVER FOR THE TWO STORY, UM, HOUSE STANDARDS THAT TURNED OVER TO MR. CHOA ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. RALPH CHF, UH, JOF LEVY, FISHMAN, MIAMI, FLORIDA ARCHITECTS. SO YEAH, WE, WE HAD THIS, UH, RESIDENCE APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC BOARD, UH, WHILE BACK. AND, UH, THE OWNER, UH, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A ROOF DECK. SO, UH, ACROSS THE STREET IS, UH, FLAMINGO PARKS. I'D LIKE TO SEE FLAMINGO PARK FROM THE ROOF. UM, THING WITH THIS LOT IS IT'S 50 FEET WIDE AND I'M REQUIRED A 15 FOOT SET BACK ALONG THE STREET, AND I'M REQUIRED SET AND A HALF INTERIOR SETBACK. AND I'M ALSO REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, ANY ROOF DECK SET BACK 10 FEET FROM THE EXTERIOR, NOT THE OVERHANG, BUT THE EXTERIOR OF ANY, UH, ANY STRUCTURE THERE. SO THAT ONLY LEAVES ME WITH SEVEN AND A HALF FEET OF, UH, OF ROOF DECK TO WORK WITH. SO WE, WE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A ROOF DECK INSTALLED OR, OR PUT, UH, ON THIS RESIDENCE. AND, UM, EVERYTHING SETS BACK 10 FEET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, UH, 12TH, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, YEAH, THE 12TH STREET, UH, SETBACK, WHICH IS RIGHT TO THE EDGE, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE A WORKABLE ROOF DECK, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S A STREET, THERE'S A 15 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE STREET AND THERE'S A PARK ACROSS THE STREET, SO WE DON'T FIND THERE'S ANY ENCUMBRANCE, UH, IN THAT AREA. SO, AND THE NEXT THING IS TO GET TO THE ROOF, WE NEED A SPIRAL STAIR. UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, NO MORE THAN, UH, 60 FEET AND RUN, UH, ACCORDING TO THE CODE. AND THEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AN OPEN COURTYARD EQUALING TWO OR MORE THAN 1% OF THE LOT SIZE. IN ORDER TO GET TO THE ROOF DECK. UH, WE HAD TO PUT A SPIRAL STAIR IN THERE. UH, ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WE GOT THE APPROVAL ON FOR THE, UM, FOR THE ROOF DECK IS THAT WE SET BACK FROM MICHIGAN AVENUE. UM, UH, WE HAD TO SET BACK 42 AND A HALF FEET. I BELIEVE THE NORMAL SETBACK IS 20 FEET. UH, THE REASON WE DID THIS WAS TO KEEP WITH THE HISTORIC, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SETBACKS OF THE EXISTING HOMES. AND WE WERE ASKED BY STAFF TO DO THAT, AND WE DID, AND WE GOT, WE GOT THAT APPROVED. SO NOW IT REALLY COMPRESSES THE SITE AREA WHERE YOU CAN BUILD. SO, UM, THAT OPEN AREA IS STILL OPEN, BUT IT HAS A SPIRAL STAIRCASE IN IT, AND IT REDUCES THE 1% TO 0.85%. SO WE ARE, UH, DEFICIENT BY 0.1%, UH, 0.15%. UM, SO THAT'S, UH, BASICALLY WE HAVE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT A DIAGRAM, UH, OF, OF THE ACTUAL, UM, VARIANCE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. THERE'S WHAT WE CAN HAVE ON TOP, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE BOTTOM. SO, UH, IT'S NOT AN EGREGIOUS, UH, ASK. I BELIEVE. UH, THE FRONT ELEVATION WILL BASICALLY LOOK THE SAME AS BEFORE. IT WON'T, WON'T REALLY CHANGE EXCEPT FOR A RAILING. UH, THAT'S GLASS ON TOP. UH, CAN, THAT'S WHERE THE STAIR IS RIGHT NOW. [00:10:06] AND THAT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION. SO YOU SEE THE ADDED, UH, RAIL, THAT'S ALL GLASS, UH, FRAME FRAMELESS, AND NOW AWAIT, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? NO. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO YOU WANNA TAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. AND BEFORE WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? OKAY, WE HAVE ONE CALLER IN LINE WITH HER HAND RAISED, UH, JOHANN MOORE. MORNING. JOHANN, DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. GOOD MORNING. UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UM, WHILE A ROOFTOP IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NORMALLY RAISE CONCERNS, UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AS INDICATED BY THE, THE PRESENTER, UH, I THINK ALLEVIATES THOSE, THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS. UM, I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONCERNED WERE THIS LOCATED, UH, NOT ADJACENT TO A PARK AND A FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, WHO WILL PRESUMABLY HAVE A WORD WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR. UH, SHOULD THERE BE EXCESS NOISE FROM THE ROOFTOP? THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN WITH A ROOFTOP, UH, ARRANGEMENT, UH, IS THAT THE NOISE WILL CARRY. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE, I SEE NOBODY IN CHAMBERS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, VARIANCE, UH, AND MODIFICATIONS. I'LL SECOND DANIEL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES, I WANNA OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES. UH, FIVE TO ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW YOU DO CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE? YES, WE DO IT THE CA FOR THE, UH, THE DESIGN. OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE I'LL SECOND APPROPRIATE. I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT CONDITIONS. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES. OPPOSED. THANK YOU. THAT MOTION PASSES AGAIN. FIVE TO ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR OUR NEXT APPLICATION [3. HPB25-0663, 336 Meridian Avenue.] IS HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 3 FOR 3 3 6 MAR AVENUE. JUST A SECOND. THE BOARD MAY REMEMBER THIS IS LAST BEFORE YOU, UM, LAST MONTH IN OCTOBER, AND IT WAS CONTINUED TO DATE CERTAIN DATES TO, TO ADDRESS, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE BOARD AND STAFF. UM, SINCE THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE PLAN SIGNIFICANTLY TO, WE BELIEVE ADDRESS THE BOARD'S COMMENTS. THIS INCLUDES REMOVING THE PROJECTING FRONT BALCONY, ADDING A PARTIAL THIRD FLOOR BALCONY, AND ADDITIONAL WINDOWS FROM PROOF RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER, REDUCING THE REFLECTIVITY OF THE THIRD FLOOR, CANTILEVER, ENHANCING SECURITY WITH COR 10 STEEL ENTRY ELEMENTS, PRESERVING THE EXISTING CHRISTMAS PALMS AND INCREASING THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM FOUR FEET TO FIVE FEET AS RECOMMENDED, UM, BY STAFF. FOR THESE REASONS, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVERALL DESIGN CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE MODIFIED VARIANCE REQUEST AND I'LL RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE C OF A, WHICH INCLUDES THE C OF A FOR DEMOLITION OF THE REAR STRUCTURE, AS WELL AS THE VARIANCE FOR THE REAR SETBACK TO ALLOW A SETBACK OF FIVE FEET THE REAR. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION. ACTUALLY, DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I, OKAY, GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. MATT AMSTER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF DEL FERNANDEZ. LARKIN TAPIS OFFICE IS AT 200, SO PI GAIN BOULEVARD IN MIAMI HERE TODAY REPRESENTING KINDRED PROPERTIES, LLC, UH, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, WITH ME, UH, RENEE GONZALEZ AND KEVIN, UH, UH, FROM, UH, RENEE'S ARCHITECTURE STUDIOS. UM, WE DO APPRECIATE, UH, ALL OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, UH, LAST MONTH. NOT ONLY FROM ALL OF YOU, UH, BUT NEIGHBORS WHO CAME AND SUBSEQUENTLY, UM, OUR TEAM DID MEET WITH THE [00:15:01] NEIGHBORS TO GO OVER, UH, THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU. AND, UH, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, UH, INPUT. IT'S BEEN, UH, VERY HELPFUL TO, UH, IMPROVE THE PROJECT, MAKE IT MORE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. UH, AND SO WE DO FEEL THAT, UM, THIS DESIGN WE'RE ABOUT TO PRESENT TO, UM, IS COMPLIMENTARY FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, AND, UH, IS GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THIS OWNER. AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A SINGLE USE, UH, RESIDENCE, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT COULD BE MULTIFAMILY. AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RENEE. THANK YOU. RENEE GONZALEZ. RENEE GONZALEZ, ARCHITECTS AT A THOUSAND VENETIAN, WAY NUMBER ONE 10. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UH, WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO PRESENT A REVISED, UH, DESIGN. UH, WE ALSO, AS MATT JUST SAID, MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, ADDRESSED THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL. I THINK WE HAVE, UH, THEIR SUPPORT AND, UM, ONE OF THEM IS, UH, MEANT TO SPEAK ON ZOOM, I THINK. UM, SO LET ME TAKE YOU THROUGH, UH, THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE SINCE THE LAST MEETING. UM, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST, LAST TIME, AND THIS IS THE, UM, REVISED DESIGN. WHAT WE DID IS WE ADDRESSED, UH, YOUR COMMENTS IN, UM, VARIOUS WAYS. ONE, AND, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IS WE MOVED, UH, PUSHED THE FACADE BACK TO A LINE WITH THE EXISTING, UH, HISTORIC FACADE. WE ELIMINATED THE BALCONY ALTOGETHER SO THAT IT'S, IT BECOMES AN INTERNAL BALCONY IN INTERNALLY, UH, LOCATED TO THE VOLUME. UH, WE ALSO CREATED A TRANSPARENT OR AS TRANSPARENT AS CAN BE, UH, FENCE SO THAT THE ORIGINAL, UH, HISTORIC FACADE CAN BE APPRECIATED. UM, I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAJOR MOVES WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED, AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT, UH, THE VARIANCE, UH, ISSUE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WORKED, UH, UH, QUITE A BIT ON, UH, TO, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE MET ON SITE AND SO FORTH. THIS IS THE REVISED, UH, DESIGN. YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, THE NOW, UH, FACADE OF THE NEW ADDITION THAT HAS A MORE SYMMETRICAL, UH, QUALITY AS I THINK HAD BEEN MENTIONED BY, BY THE BOARD. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY YOU, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH IS AN ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH OF HOW MUCH VEGETATION THERE IS. WE OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOW YOU THIS BECAUSE IT WAS REQUESTED, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE WANT THE BUILDING TO BE RIGHT REGARDLESS OF THE, OF THE VEGETATION. SO, EH, THIS IS THE ELEVATION SHOWING, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, FENCE, WHICH, UH, WOULD BE A, A PICKET FENCE SIMILAR TO WHAT EXISTS NOW. AND THESE ARE EXISTING, UM, PHOTOGRAPHS. I, I'M SORRY, I'M MOVING. IF I'M MOVING, UH, TOO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UH, SO HERE YOU SEE, UH, THE REVISED, UH, SITUATION, UH, WITH THE NEW FACADE, NOT PROTRUDING NOR HAVING A BALCONY. UH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO REVISED, UH, THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO REPRESENT, UH, STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION. AND ALSO, AS I SAID, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, UM, ADDRESSED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY PLEASED, UH, TO, TO HAVE THE NEW CONDITIONS BECAUSE WE'VE ALSO, IN THE LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS, WHICH ARE, THESE ARE ALL, UH, SIMILAR, BUT, UH, REVISED AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. UH, THE FRONT ELEVATION IS NOW IN LINE WITH THE, UH, SO THE LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS. UH, WHAT WE DID IS THERE'S A NUMBER OF PALMS THAT EXIST ON THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, TO THE NORTH. AND WE HAVE, UH, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AGREED TO LEAVE ALL OF THOSE PALMS. WE HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO HAVE NEW VEGETATION THERE THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD STILL DO THE SAME THING AND GROW QUICKLY, BUT THEY REALLY LOVE, UM, WHAT EXISTS. SO WE'VE, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THESE REVISED DRAWINGS WHERE WE'VE AGREED TO LEAVE, UH, THOSE PALMS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE COMFORT THAT THEY WILL HAVE, UH, THE KIND OF, UH, GREEN LUSH VEGETATION THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. I THINK, UH, I'M OPEN TO [00:20:01] ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU MAY HAVE. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR THE APPLICANT I'S NOT REALLY YOUR QUESTION. I JUST WANNA REALLY THANK YOU FOR TAKING WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED AND, AND DONE IT. I WAS THRILLED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PACKAGE, IT SAID, OH MY GOODNESS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS LITTLE GIVE AND TAKE AND, AND WHATEVER, BUT YOU REALLY TOOK EVERYTHING TO HEART. YOU DID IT. AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. UM, , THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE JUST GO OVER WHAT, UH, THE WAIVERS VARIANCES YOU'RE REQUESTING, JUST A SUMMARY SINCE THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHANGES IN THE DESIGN HAVE AFFECTED AT ALL ON THE VARIANCE. YES. UH, WELL, UH, WHAT WE DID IS WE REVISED THE DRAWINGS SHOWING, UH, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING BACK ON THE FRONT, UH, IN THE, IN THE PAST, UH, HERE, IF YOU CAN SEE THE CURSOR, THIS, THIS USED TO PROTRUDE OUT TO THE FRONT SETBACK LINE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN REVISED. AND THEN THIS HAS BEEN REVISED TO AGREE WITH, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. IT USED TO BE, UM, UH, FOUR FOOT AND NOW IT'S FIVE FOOT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S OUR ONLY VARIANCE. THERE'S NO WAIVER. THAT'S CORRECT. SORRY. YEAH, I DID MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ON THE REAR SETBACK, YOU'RE ENCROACHING NINE FEET IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. AND THANK YOU. YEAH, IF YOU RECALL, UH, THAT'S, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER, UH, BUILDINGS ON, ON THAT BLOCK. AND ALSO, UH, AFTER LOOKING AT IT ON SITE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK THEY WERE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, UM, ONE OF THEM IS ON ZOOM FINALLY, BUT HE WAS, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA BE ON ZOOM TO SPEAK UP HIMSELF. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S TAKE ON PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE FIRST. IT'S IN CHAMBERS AND MADAM CHAIR, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES TO MAKE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC? NO. OKAY. HI, ROGER OBL, MDPO, UH, 1000 OCEAN DRIVE. UM, WE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S TWEAKING THE DESIGN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD AS WELL AS THOSE OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. THE LAST PRESENTATION, WHOEVER WE DO STILL DO NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DESIGN, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS AMASSING THE SCALE, THE ANGULAR FORM REMAIN OUTTA CONTEXT WITH BOTH THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE AND THE OCEAN BEACH HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE OVERALL DESIGN LOCKS CONTEXTUAL SENSITIVITY TO THE PREDOMINANTLY ART DECO E MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL CHARACTER OF INTERIOR PORTION OF THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NO LONGER OPPOSE THE RARE SETBACK VARIANCE, UNDERSTANDING THE SIGNIFICANT VOLUNTARY SETBACKS. DESIGN HAS TO RESPECT THE FACADES OF HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT ARE BEING RETAINED. WE, EXCUSE ME, WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO BUILD A FOREVER HOME IN MIAMI BEACH AND THEIR LOVE OF THE NEW HOME. WE ALL LOVE MIAMI. WITH THAT, WE ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO RECONSIDER DESIGN WITH ONE THAT IS MORE CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE AND THAT RESPECTS THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THEIR PROPERTY SURROUNDINGS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS ON ZOOM? LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY ON ZOOM WITH THEIR HAND RAISED TO COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION. THERE'S NOBODY LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO TO BOARD. COMMENT. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? , DID YOU ADD A DOOR TO THE FRONT? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS OPEN. IT, WE, WE, WE CORRECTLY SHOWED, UH, THE DOOR THAT WOULD EXIST WITHIN THE KEYHOLE OPENING, RIGHT? YES. SO THAT'S NEW OR THAT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I ASKED THE QUESTION, ARE YOU LEAVING IT OPEN? SO IS THERE A GATE? AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A NO, I I'M SORRY. I MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSED. YES, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S NEW, BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PROPERLY SHOWN OH, OKAY. PREVIOUSLY, YEAH. ONE OTHER [00:25:01] QUESTION. SORRY. THE BALCONY ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS ACTUALLY HAS NO ROOF ON IT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH. OKAY. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT'S OPEN, RIGHT? THERE IS OVER THE BALCONY? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND, UH, IF I MAY ADD, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT BALCONY IS THERE IS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES IN THE UNIT, UH, VERY CLOSE TO THAT CORNER REQUESTED THAT THERE BE MORE LIGHT THAT, UH, UH, COME THROUGH, UH, INTO HIS UNIT, OR THAT WE MAXIMIZE THAT CONDITION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT BALCONY IS, IS PLACED IN THAT LOCATION. WE'RE SORRY, JUST TO BE CLEAR. WE ADDRESSED HIS CONCERN, BUT WE'RE ALSO VERY PLEASED WITH THE, THE RESULT. AND, AND WANNA THANK YOU REALLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, OFTENTIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, SCENARIOS LEAD TO A, A BETTER PLACE AND I THINK THIS IS, UH, A, A MORE SENSITIVE DESIGN, UH, HANDS DOWN. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY BOARD COMMENT? I, I KNOW YOU ASKED TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT IF, I MEAN, IF WE'VE GOT QUESTIONS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ASK THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IDEAS FOR BOARD COMMENTARY AT THIS POINT. YEAH. UM, RENEE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE, UH, SO BE A QUESTION? YES, IT'S A QUESTION. OKAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN THE, UH, GLAZING OR THE SKIN OF THE, UH, OF THE NEW STRUCTURE? WELL, THE IDEA IS THAT IT IT BE, UH, UH, GLASS BLOCK, UH, SORT OF, UH, VOLUME, UH, AND THAT IT HAVE, UH, WINDOWS INSERTED AND THE WINDOWS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE ELEVATION, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO, UM, THE ORIGINAL, UH, BUILDING. UH, BUT THAT FOR THE MOST PART IT BE ALL GLASS BLOCK. THAT'S THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ON ALL ELEVATIONS? YEAH. YES. OF THE FRONT VOLUME? YES. YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SECTIONAL. UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, THE LINES, THE LINES, THE SEAMS YOU SEE ARE, ARE MULIAN, ARE ARE MULIAN? YES. AND AND THAT'S ALUMINUM, I WOULD IMAGINE? CORRECT? YEAH. QUESTION OR COMMENT QUESTION . OKAY. FURTHER TO THAT, IS THE RAILING ON THE ROOF DECK ALSO ALL GLASS BLOCK? IT LOOKS DIFFERENT IN THE RENDERING AND I CAN'T TELL THERE'S A RAILING AROUND THE ENTIRE ROOF. OH, ROOF DECK. THE RAILING IS GLASS BLOCK AS WELL, SO YES, THE GLASS. OKAY, THANK YOU. THE FENCE, UM, ON THE STREET, UM, WHAT IS THAT MATERIAL? I MEAN, IT LOOKS VERY ORANGE . IT'S, IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, CORTAN STEEL. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY STEEL THAT, UH, SORT OF, UH, IT FEELS VERY NATURAL IN A WAY BECAUSE SO IT CAN RUST? YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE SAME MATERIAL BEING USED ON THE DOOR? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO IT, IT'S STEEL THAT THAT'LL NEED PROTECTIVE COATING, I WOULD IMAGINE. OR IT'S A, A STEEL THAT, UM, AS IT, UH, WEARS IT, UH, DEVELOPS ITS OWN PROTECTIVE COATING. SO PATINA OR OXIDATION PATINA, CORRECT. THAT'S A NICER WORD. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S JUST FEELS VERY ORGANIC. WE'VE USED IT BEFORE AND IT TENDS TO DISAPPEAR INTO THE LANDSCAPE BECAUSE IT JUST IS, IT FEELS VERY NATURAL AND ORGANIC AS IT TENDS TO PATINA. SO WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT AS A COPPER OR BRASS OR IS IT NO COPPER? WELL, IN THE SENSE THAT IT WOULD HAVE A BIT OF A COLOR TO IT, YES. BUT NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE COPPER OR, OR BRASS. IT WOULD BE CORTENT STEEL. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GONNA RUST AND DETERIORATE. NO, NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MATERIAL THAT PROTECTS ITSELF, UH, AS IT, UH, PATINA GOTCHA. KIND OF LIKE COPPER DOES ON A, ON A ROOF WHEN IT TURNS GREEN. YEAH. ALRIGHT. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF YOU BROUGHT A SAMPLE AND, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO STAFF IF OF COURSE, YES. ELIZABETH, I BELIEVE HAS COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. OKAY. IT'S A MIXTURE OF BOTH. UH, SO, UH, I KNOW YOU JUST EXPLAINED THE SKIN, THE GLASS SKIN, BUT WOULD YOU MIND BRINGING UP A FLOOR PLAN AND GOING OVER THAT AGAIN? OF COURSE. SO, SO GO, I'M SORRY. GO TO THE NEXT FLOOR. 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S EASIER TO SEE WHAT, I'M SORRY. YOU SHOW AND THAT'S THIS ONE. YEAH. 'CAUSE HERE YOU SHOW [00:30:01] ONLY ONE LAYER OF FINISHED MATERIAL THERE. AT LEAST ON MY PACKAGE. I DID SEE TOO. IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE LIFE BLUE HERE IS THE GLASS BLOCK. OKAY. CORRECT. THEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXTERIOR WALL. YOUR EXTERIOR IS GLASS. IT'S ALL GLASS BLOCK. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THE EXTERIOR WALL IS GLASS BLOCK. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WASN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE THAT SAMPLE BY THE WAY. WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMENTS? COMMENTS? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. WHILE I, UH, APPLAUD YOUR DESIGN. I THINK THE BUILDING SIZE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. YOU'RE BUILDING CLOSE TO A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. YOU'RE COMING IN HERE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR NINE FEET. YOU'RE BUILDING A 50 SOME ODD FOOT TALL BUILDING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, THIS DESIGN MAY WORK ELSEWHERE, BUT NOT ON A 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING A 9,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 14 FOOT, AN ADDITIONAL 14 FOOT SETBACK. I CANNOT SUPPORT YOU. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. UM, THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR COMMENTS. I, MY ONE CONCERN WITH THIS, AND IT'S FROM THE PERSPECTIVE RENDERING, IS THE, THE ROOF ON THE OVERHANG LOOKS TO ME VERY COMMERCIAL BEING REFLECTIVE STEEL. IS THAT WHAT THE INTENT IS? OR THE, UNDER THE CEILING ON THE OVERHANG? UH, THE INTENT, YEAH. WE'LL SHOW YOU THE EXACT MATERIAL. THE INTENT IS FOR THAT TO DISAPPEAR AND HAVE IT BE A REFLECTIVE, SO IT'S REALLY, UH, A MATERIAL THAT IS, THAT WON'T BE READ AS WHAT IT IS. WE'VE USED IT BEFORE ON, ON OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. UM, GLASS IN PARTICULAR, WE'VE USED A LUON. WHAT HAPPENS IS IT TENDS TO, UH, IT, IT, IT TENDS TO, IT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING, UH, LIKE THIS, BUT IT, SORRY, BUT IT WOULD TEND TO REFLECT THE ENVIRONMENT. SO WHILE, UH, I THINK THAT AT, UM, THAT YOU WOULD TEND TO THINK OF THIS MATERIAL AS AN INDUSTRIAL MATERIAL, THE WHOLE INTENT IS THAT IT JUST DISAPPEAR. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, HERE IN THIS ELEVATION THAT THE LANDSCAPE IS WHAT REALLY READS AS THE DOMINANT FEATURE. UH, IF WE HAD, UH, LET'S SAY STUCCO, WHICH WOULD BE THE MORE SORT OF NORMAL MATERIAL TO USE, UH, I THINK, UH, YOU WOULD READ IT AS A MATERIAL. WHILE THIS IS GOING TO DISSIPATE INTO THE LANDSCAPE, THAT'S OUR INTENTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HAVE WE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MITCH COMMENT? SURE. ON ONTO THE SAME, UH, DISCUSSION. SO IS THIS LIKE AN ECOSYSTEM DESIGNED WITH A METAL CLADDING? IS THERE A DENS GLASS BEHIND IT, OR IS THAT HOW YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR THERE'S A, THERE'S EXACTLY, IT'S A PANEL SYSTEM. OKAY. PANEL SYSTEM, YES. AND THE SIZE OF THE, UH, SHEETS, I WOULD IMAGINE WAS A FOUR BY EIGHT OR, UH, THEY, THEY COULD BE LARGER WHERE WE WOULD USE THE LARGEST, UH, POSSIBLE. AT THIS POINT, IT'S WHAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UP TO 12 FEET. SO LET'S SAY FOUR BY 12, HOW DO YOU HIDE THE JOINTS? SO YOU'RE JUST NOT CONCERNED? YOU'LL, WELL, THE JOINTS WILL BE VISIBLE, BUT THEY WILL BE A, A, A LINE, A VERY MINIMAL LINE THAT, UH, WOULD BE VISIBLE. IT'S, UH, A MINIMAL JOINT, MUCH, MUCH LESS THAN WHAT YOU SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A REVEAL. AND HOW DO YOU ENVISION THIS BEING FASTENED TO THE, UH, TO THE, IT'S A SYSTEM THAT CLIPS ON SUBSTRATE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S IS GLUED ? NO, NO, NO, NO. THERE IT'S A YOU WANNA GO AHEAD MECHANICALLY FAST, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S MECHANICALLY FASTENED IS WHAT KEVIN IS SAYING, BUT, BUT IT'S A, A SYSTEM THAT'S PRE-MANUFACTURED FOR THIS PURPOSE, AND IT HAS A STRUCTURE BEHIND IT THAT SORT OF ALLOWS YOU TO MECHANICALLY FASTEN IT ON. SO YOU WON'T SEE THE NO. OKAY. NO, NO, NO. ALRIGHT. AND, AND THIS WOULD MEET HURRICANE STANDARD, OF COURSE, YEAH. [00:35:02] YEAH. WE'VE, WE'VE, I MEAN, FOUR BLOCKS, UH, FROM HERE WE'VE, WE'VE USED IT AS WELL, WHICH ON GLASS. OKAY. AND GLASS IS, UH, SORRY, 1, 1 20 OCEAN DRIVE, WHICH IS GLASS, RIGHT? YEAH, GLASS BUILDING. IT'S A GLASS BUILDING. UH, WHERE, WHERE ON THAT PROJECT? IS IT BEING USED UNDER THE BALCONIES? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S BEING USED ON THE ELEVATOR COURSE. OKAY. UH, THE ENTIRE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. AND THAT'S ON THE INTERIOR. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT FROM ON THE WHAT? UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT FROM THE, UH, FROM THE STREET. OH, YOU, YOU DO. YEAH, YOU DO. IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE CAUSEWAY. ACTUALLY FROM THE CAUSEWAY. YEAH. AND WE USED TO OKAY. THE, THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE CORRECT. FACING, OKAY. FACING MIAMI. CAN YOU SEE IT FROM THE ALLEY? WHAT IS THAT OCEAN CORD? OR YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE ALLEY. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE DISTANCE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE USED TWO, UH, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UH, TONALITIES OF THE SILVER THERE, JUST LIKE THIS, UH, IN ORDER TO DIFFERENTIATE, UM, A PATTERN. UH, AND IT'S QUITE EFFECTIVE, I THINK, IN THE SENSE THAT YOU DO REALLY, UH, IT, IT, IT TENDS TO DISSIPATE, UH, INTO THE LANDSCAPE. IT REFLECTS THIS, IN THIS CASE, IN THIS CASE, WE WANT IT TO REFLECT THE LANDSCAPE. IN THAT CASE, IT REFLECTS THE SKY AND THE ATMOSPHERE REALLY, WHICH WAS THE INTENTION FOR THAT BUILDING IN GENERAL, ALTHOUGH, BECAUSE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, HOW HAS THAT BUILDING WEATHERED IN TERMS OF ITS, UH, ITS GLAZING SYSTEMS? ARE THERE ANY ISSUES? NO. OKAY. NO, NO. WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, WORKING ON THE PROJECT NOW TO, UH, HAVE A NEW GYM ON THE GROUND FLOOR, AND THERE'S NOTHING, UH, ON THE BUILDING THAT, UM, NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT'S NOT WEATHERED PROPERLY OR SO, SO IT'S, IT'S OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. WELL, OKAY. I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE IT. YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BEFORE YOU MAKE, SORRY, I'M BACK. UM, SO YOU HAVE, HAVE YOU START WORKING ON THE PERMIT SET ON THE WORKING DRAWINGS FOR NO, OF COURSE NOT. WE, NO, NO. OKAY. NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND FROM A STRUCTURE STANDPOINT, BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE ANY STRUCTURE ON THE FACADES AND ALSO THE ENERGY. HOW DO WE MEET ENERGY CALCULATIONS WITH AN ENTIRE GLASS FACADE? AND IF IT'S A SEE-THROUGH, YOU CANNOT HIDE ANYTHING BEHIND IT. WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND THE MEP ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT, UM, THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH US PROCEEDING, UH, WITH THIS DESIGN, EH, THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE, UH, WE'VE, THAT'S WHAT THOSE SEAMS, THESE, UH, SORRY, THESE, UH, SEAMS ARE IMPLYING IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, OOPS, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. I'M SO SORRY. EH, THE SEAMS ARE IMPLYING THAT, UH, WE WOULD HAVE STRUCTURE, RIGHT? UH, YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, HERE. UH, AND, AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, STRUCTURE ON THE HISTORIC FACADE, ON THE INTERIOR OF THE HISTORIC FACADE, A STEEL STRUCTURE. CAN YOU PULL OUT THAT, UH, THE BOARD OF THE INTERIOR OF THAT COURTYARD SO ELIZABETH CAN SEE THAT? UH, SO WE'VE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE ENGINEERS TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS CONSISTENT WITH, UM, WITH, UH, CALCULATIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. SO WHAT'S THE THERMAL INSTALLATION CAPACITY OF GLASS? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, TO BE HONEST. NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, WONDERING. RIGHT, BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORE SOLID WALL, WE, I MEAN, IT, IT'S JUST LIKE MORE COMMON. YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER YEAH. HOW MUCH IT CAN ACTUALLY STOP THE HEAT FROM COMING IN. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THREE SIDES OR FOUR SIDES OF YOUR FACADE BEING ALL GLASS AND YOU CANNOT PUT ANY KIND OF INSULATION BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT CEASED THROUGH ANYMORE. RIGHT. RIGHT. WE, WE'VE, WE RAN SOME PRELIMINARY, UH, CALCULATIONS WITH THE ENGINEER AND THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO THIS. HAPPY TO HEAR . YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE, I DUNNO IF, RIGHT. SO, UM, YEAH, SO IN THE HISTORIC FACADE, SINCE IT'S A SOLID WALL, THAT'S [00:40:01] SOMETHING THAT YEAH, YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND THE, WHEN YOU HAVE THE GLASSES THAT YOU CANNOT ANYMORE. SO EVERYTHING BECOMES VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MICHAEL. SO IF, LET'S SAY AS THEY DEVELOP THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BECOME THICKER, MORE VISIBLE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL BRING BACK TO US? YEAH. YES. IF WE LOOK AT IT AND THE DESIGNS CHANGES SIGNIFICANTLY FROM WHAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT TODAY, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS, UM, SITTING IN JOHN'S CHAIR TODAY. UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, THEY BROUGHT UP THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DOOR EARLIER AND YOU SAID IT WAS INCORRECTLY REPRESENTED LAST TIME. AND SO I JUST, I WANNA GET, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER IMAGE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE DOOR OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT? BECAUSE EVEN IN MY PAPERS THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A DOOR, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE CLEARLY IT'S SHOWING THE STAIRCASE BEHIND IT, THE, UH, BOARD THAT YOU JUST SHOWED WITH THE INTERIOR SHARE OF THE DOOR. LIKE THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT KEYHOLE. SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN, A VISUAL REPRESENTATION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT? UH, YE YES. DO WE HAVE IT HERE? VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE DOOR. WHAT'S THE BEST, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO SEE IT? SEE, CAN WE ZOOM IN OR, YEAH. SO JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, RA FIVE DOESN'T SHOW THAT DOOR. IT SHOWS THE STAIRCASE . WE, WE REALIZED THAT THAT'S, I THINK WHAT, UH, MR. HOLLINGWORTH QUESTION WAS. UH, I THINK THAT, UH, WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON THE DESIGN IN THE PAST, UH, THAT, UM, WE DIDN'T CLEARLY SHOW THAT, BUT AFTER LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE FENCE AND THE DOOR AND WHAT YOU SEE AND YOU DON'T SEE, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. HONESTLY, I HAD THOUGHT ORIGINALLY THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO DO ON ANY, ON ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD, UH, UM, WANT US TO SORT OF LOOK AT CLOSER WITH THEM. EH, BUT WE REALIZED IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHOW. SO HERE YOU, HERE YOU SEE IT'S, IT'S A SIMPLE PANEL AND IT WOULD HAVE TWO SEAMS AS YOU SEE HERE. IT'S A GLASS DOOR? NO, NO, IT'S A CORCH AND STEEL. OH, OKAY. TO MATCH THE FENCE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR BEFORE? WAS THERE NOBODY IN LINE? NOBODY. NOBODY IN LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. BUT BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, I JUST WANNA, UM, ADD THE APPLICANT PROFFERED TO KEEP THE PO, THE LANDSCAPING, THE PALMS ON THE NORTH SIDE. I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION FOR ANY RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE, UM, THE C OF A. AND I KNOW MR. UM, MEYER HAS REC HAS INDICATED HE'S, HE, HE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE VARIANCE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS, WHO WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE VARIANCE FOR THE REAR SETBACK? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. 'CAUSE IF, IF THERE WAS NOT THE SUPPORT, THEN I'D ASK THE APPLICANT IF HE WANTED TO CONTINUE THE APPLICATION. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE ONLY, ONLY MY MR. MEYER IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE, THE VARIANCE AS WELL AS FOR THE, THE C OF A FOR THE DESIGN. I'LL MAKE SUCH A MOTION. DO I DO THE DESIGN FIRST? VARIS OR THE COA? UH, FOR THE C OF A FIRST, A SECOND. MR. LIN? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DESIGN? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES, MR. MEYER? OPPOSED? AND ON THE VARIANCE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE. SECOND ON THE VARIANCE LIN. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES, MR. MINOR OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. A FIVE TO ONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE LAST TIME. IT REALLY, UH, WE FEEL HAS IMPROVED THE DESIGN, SO THANK YOU. YEAH. AND ELSE? OH, YES. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. FORGOT IF YOU'D LEMME GO THROUGH MY ORDER. THANK YOU. THE NEXT APPLICATION [4. HPB24-0640, 1440 Michigan Avenue – Miami Beach Apartments.] IS H PV 24 DASH 0 6 40 14 40 MICHIGAN AVENUE. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW THREE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH AN UNDERSTORY, INCLUDING A WAIVER TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE COVERAGE LOT COVERAGE TO REPLACE AN EXISTING LOT TO BE DEMOLISHED. JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY, ON JANUARY 26TH, 1999, THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ALLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SMALL STORAGE FACILITY WITHIN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT. ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2015, THE BOARD APPROVED THAT LOT SPLIT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY 1440 MICHIGAN AVENUE AND 10 30 15TH STREET, UH, WITH TWO DEVELOPABLE LOTS. UM, [00:45:01] THE SOUTHERN LOT, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION, HAS REMAINED AS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A THREE STORY 23 UNIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL TO REPLACE THE EXISTING PARKING LOT INCLUSIVE OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING STORAGE FACILITY SINCE THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1999 AND RETAINS NO ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, THUS HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE. STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GEN OF THIS APPLICATION. UH, THE DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORING THREE STORY STRUCTURE ON THE NORTHERN PARCEL THAT WAS SUBJECT TO THE LOT SPLIT. UM, HOWEVER, STAFF WOULD KNOW THAT THE OVERALL MASSING ON THE THIRD FLOOR IS TOP PEI AS IT PROJECTS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET FROM THE SECOND LEVEL, UM, ON THE EAST AND WEST ENDS. THIS WOULD PHASE LENNOX AVE AND MICHIGAN AVENUE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE FLOOR PLANS BE ADJUSTED SO THAT THE THIRD LEVEL DOES NOT PROJECT BEYOND THE SECOND LEVEL EXCEPT FOR THE PROJECTING BALCONIES. UH, SOMETHING TO KNOW IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM SECTION 7 2 4 3 A OF THE RESILIENCY CODE, WHICH STATES THAT FOR LOTS EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN 65 FEET IN WIDTH, THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 45%. THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, AREAS SUCH AS DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD LEAD INTO THIS UNDERSTORY AS PART OF THEIR LOCK COVERAGE. SO AS A RESULT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A LOCK COVERAGE IS 64%, WHERE 45% IS PERMITTED. UM, IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE PARKING BELOW THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, ADDITIONAL LOCK COVERAGE IS PROPOSED TO ACHIEVE THE UNDERSTORY DESIGN AND ALLOW ADEQUATE FLOOR PLATE DIMENSIONS ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ABOVE. GIVEN THAT THE SITE'S LONG AND NARROW CONFIGURATION, UM, THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA WILL UTILIZE A HYDRO PAVER PERMEABLE PAVER SYSTEM TO IMPROVE ONSITE WATER MANAGEMENT. UM, WE ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH LOT, WHICH WAS PART OF THE LOCK SPLIT, WAS APPROVED WITH THE LACK COVERAGE OF 62.8%. UM, PROVIDING A RELEVANT CONTEXTUAL PRESIDENT THAT SUPPORTS THE REASONABLE, UH, WAIVER. OVERALL STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED WAIVER SUPPORTS AN INTEGRAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND, UM, RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD OF FIRMS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY STAFF, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE REDUCTION OF THE LARGER PLATES AT THE THIRD LEVEL, UM, AND, AND BE, UH, APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH, UH, ADDRESSES THE, IN THE COA CRITERIA. OKAY, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN, MATT AMSTER, UH, AT BURKE, HOWARD DEL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN AND TAPS OFFICE AT 200. SO MISS GAIN BOULEVARD, UH, HERE TODAY REPRESENTING CREAR RENTAL, MICHIGAN, LLC, WHICH IS THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, WITH ME. AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION IF WE COULD PLEASE CALL THAT UP. THANK YOU. GO TO THE NEXT. THANK YOU. UM, SO WITH OUR TEAM, UM, I HAVE, UH, LOUISA GANI FROM SKYWORK, OUR ARCHITECT. UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, MR. ELLA FROM ALL LANDSCAPE DATA ON EITHER IN PRESENT OR, YEP. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. AND, UM, UH, WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, SOMEONE, UH, LANKIN IS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THEY'RE ON ZOOM. UM, AND, UH, HERE FROM OWNERSHIP IS BENTO CARROS, AND I DO HAVE A, A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, UM, FOR THE, UM, WE JUST HEARD FROM OUR, UH, OWNER THAT, UH, THEY HAD MADE A, A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE, UH, AND I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, UM, WE'RE GETTING A REVISED APPLICATION TO STAFF. UH, APOLOGIES FOR THE LAST MINUTE NOTICE AND ALSO A DELAY. OUR ENTIRE FIRM HAS UNDERGONE THE WONDERFUL, UM, IT TRANSITION OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE'RE STILL EXPERIENCING, UH, DIFFICULTIES. UM, IT'S THE SAME C CR RENTAL. MICHIGAN IS STILL THE SAME, UH, OWNERSHIP ENTITY. UM, IT GOES DOWN TO THE SAME AS WE HAD PRESENTED, UH, BATISTA SILVERA LIMITED, AND THEN, WHICH OWNS CREAR A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND THEN STICK TO FUTURE, UH, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OWNER OF BATISTA. AND THEN AT THE END, THE ULTIMATE PERSON OWNER, UM, THROUGH A TRUST SITUATION IS PEDRO PAOLO LEMOS DECASTRO. SO THAT'S OUR REVISED, UH, OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE. AGAIN, THAT NAME IS PEDRO PAOLO LEMOS DECASTRO. THIS IS A, UH, BRAZILIAN, UM, OWNER, UH, COMING HERE AND, UH, HAS ACTUALLY DONE A PROJECT, UH, NEARBY. UM, IT WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. UH, ABOUT IT IS ALREADY BROKEN GROUND FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING IN SOUTH SIDE OF SUNSET HARBOR. IT'S, UH, 1333 DADE BOULEVARD. AND SO HERE TODAY [00:50:01] THEY'RE STARTING THEIR NEXT PROJECT, UM, A MULTIFAMILY, UH, ON MICHIGAN. UM, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON THE LEFT THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE, THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND THE ONE TO THE NORTH, WHICH FRONTS ON 15TH STREET, UH, WERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, I BELIEVE SINCE 1973, A SURFACE PARKING LOT THAT EVENTUALLY, UH, WAS TAKEN OVER BY, UH, SOUTHERN BELL BELLSOUTH USED, UH, FOR THEIR, UM, SERVICE VEHICLES. THERE'S A SMALL STORAGE BUILDING THERE, BUT BASICALLY THIS HAS JUST BEEN A PRIVATE PARKING LOT, UM, FOR DECADES. UH, AND IN, UH, 2015, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, APPROVED A LOT SPLIT, UM, TO ALLOW FOR, UH, BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, UH, TO BE, YOU KNOW, SEPARATED AND ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY. UH, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE R ONE DISTRICT, THAT'S THE ZONING DISTRICTS OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NORTH PROPERTY, WHICH IS, UH, LARGER THAN OURS IN THIS, IN THE SPLIT THAT WAS MADE, UM, HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT OUT. I BELIEVE IT FINISHED, UH, IN 2022, UH, WITH A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING. UH, IT'S UNDER CONDO OWNERSHIP. UM, SO HERE YOU CAN ALSO GET A CONTEXT. AND OUR, OUR OWNERSHIP, OUR TEAM AND THE OWNER HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER. THIS IS A HANDS-ON OWNER, UH, LOOKING TO BRING, UH, A VERY HIGH QUALITY, UH, RENTAL BUILDING TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE'VE DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, THE CONTEXT AND TO PROVIDE A SENSITIVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SORT OF LONG, NARROW COMPACT LOT. AND WE BELIEVE WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT. AND IN DOING SO, WE'VE MET NUMEROUS TIMES WITH PLANNING STAFF AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR, UH, HELPFUL COMMENTS AND GUIDANCE. UM, WE ORIGINALLY ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF VARIANCES THAT WITH THEIR HELP AND, UM, NICE REDESIGNS, INCLUDING ADDING AN UNDERSTORY FOR MORE RESILIENCY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID ALL VARIANCES. UH, SO WE ARE A, UH, BASICALLY A COMPLIANT, UH, PROJECT FROM THAT REGARD. UH, AND THE, YOU KNOW, UH, NATURE OF OUR, UH, PROJECT IS AGAIN, ALWAYS TO BE SENSITIVE TO BASICALLY HAVE A, A FRONTS ON BOTH SIDES, UH, AND TO BE SENSITIVE TO BOTH OUR NORTH AND SOUTH NEIGHBOR. UH, HERE'S THE LAYOUT, UH, OF THE, THAT EXISTING CONDITION TO THE NORTH. UH, NOTABLY THEY HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK ON THEIR SOUTH SIDE. WE ARE RESPECTING OUR REQUIRED 10 FOOT SETBACKS, BOTH IN THE NORTH AND IN THE SOUTH, WITH ZERO PROJECTIONS INTO EITHER OF THOSE SETBACKS, AS YOU CAN SEE. AND LUISA WILL ALSO EXPLAIN WE HAVE LOTS OF GREEN, BOTH AT GROUND LEVEL ON ALL LEVELS, AND INCLUDING THE ROOFTOP LUISA, GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. UM, WE'RE PROUD TO PRESENT THIS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT THAT REPRESENTS THE NEXT GENERATION OF CONTEXTUAL AND RESILIENT DESIGN IN MIAMI BEACH. THIS IS A CAREFULLY CRAFTED ARCHITECTURAL STATEMENT, AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, OF THIS IMAGE DEVELOPED THROUGH CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE STAFF, WHICH WE THANK VERY MUCH, AGAIN TO ENSURE A SENSITIVITY TO SCALE, RHYTHM AND CHARACTER TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR INTENT IS TO PROVIDE UNIQUE LIVING EXPERIENCE TO MULTIPLE FAMILIES WHILE MAINTAINING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL APPROACH. TO CREATE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY DE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE NORTH TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AREA THAT WE HAVE IN THE SOUTH. THIS NATURE INTEGRATED DESIGN FEATURES A GREEN ROOF, VERTICAL LANDSCAPE, AND GREEN BALCONIES. IT WAS DESIGNED TO FUEL TIMELESS AND ENHANCE THE MIAMI BEACH ARCHITECTURAL FABRIC. THE UNDERSTORY FLOOR PLAN CLEARLY SHOWS HOW NARROW AND CHALLENGING OUR SITE WAS IS, UM, BUT IN COLLABORATION WITH THE STAFF, WE WERE ABLE TO DESIGN WITH FULL COMPLIANCE TO SETBACKS WITH NO ENCROACHMENTS, A CONCEALED PARKING AREA WITH ENOUGH PARKING SPACES TO ALL UNITS AREA 4 39 BICYCLE WRECKS, WHICH PROMOTES ACTIVE AND SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY. ONLY ONE 12 FEET CURB CUT ON THE MICHIGAN AVENUE SIDE TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY PEDESTRIAN APPROACH WITH SHADED SID SEATING AND LUSH VEGETATION. WE ARE REQUESTING FOR LOCK COVERAGE WAIVER. UM, ON THE SECOND DIAGRAM, THE YELLOW AREA SHOWS THE ROOF PROJECTION EXCEEDING THE 45%, UM, MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, IN THE FIRST DIAGRAM, THE RED AREAS SHOW HOW SMALL THE UNDERSTORY FOOTPRINT IS. SO TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S STAFFS, UM, THE CITY'S RESILIENCY AND STORM WATER GOALS, WE ARE COMMITTED TO FULLY LANDSCAPE AROUND THE SETBACKS, UM, PARKING WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT OUS PAVERS AND, UH, GREEN ROOF. SO IN THE LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR THE UNDERSTORY AND ROOF, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ARE COMMITTED TO, UH, NATIVE SPECIES TO GUARANTEE AN EVERGREEN VEGETATION [00:55:01] CONTRIBUTING TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, URBAN HEAT, ISLAND REDUCTION, GREEN BUFFER AND EQUIPMENT SCRUTINY. THE FALLER PLAN DRAWINGS PORTRAY OUR COMMITMENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES BY NOT ONLY RESPECTING THE REQUIRED SETBACKS, BUT ALSO RECESSING THE VOLUMES OF THE LIVABLE SPACES. WHERE IN THE NORTH SIDE, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, WE, UM, FOCUS ON MOSTLY CIRCULATION SPACES. AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE WE HAVE THE LONG RECESS BALCONIES LAYER TO THAT WE HAVE GREEN PLANTERS ACTING AS BUFFERS, NATURAL SHADING, AND PASSIVE COOLING AND PRIVACY TO, UM, BOTH SIDES ON THE LEVELS WHERE THE LIVABLE AREAS ARE ON THE NORTH SETBACK. SO IN, FOR INSTANCE, THESE AREAS, WE PROVIDE LOUVERS FOR PRIVACY AND TO ALSO REDUCE THE BUILDING MASS IN A FACADE STANDPOINT AND ACT AS NATURAL SHADING. AND THESE PLANS ALSO SHOW HOW OPEN THE BUILDING ENDS ARE BY THE CORNERS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE RECESS STRUCTURE FOR A LIGHTER MASS, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, ALLOWING NATURAL LIGHT AIR, AIRFLOW AND VISIBILITY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. THE FACADES ARE ACTUALLY BETTER PORTRAYED WITH THE BEAUTIFUL RENDERINGS, UM, THAT YOU GUYS CAN ALSO SEE IN THE FRONT. UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE VOLUMES ARE PUSHING POOLS FOR, FOR HUMAN SCALE AT THE STREET LEVEL, CREATING THIS SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA. UM, THE LIGHT CORNERS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, SHOWS WITH NO OBSTRUCTION. AND ON BOTH FRONTS WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN APPROACH WITH LUSH VEGETATION FROM GROUND UP PEDESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES, LANDSCAPE SHADING AREAS, LIGHTING TO A FOR A SAFE AREA AND ACTIVE, UM, GREEN WALLS, WOOD LIKE SLEDS, GR GLASS AND VERTICAL GREENERY. THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, WHICH IS IN THE NORTH. UM, AND SINGLE FAMILY SIDE ELEVATIONS HAVE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS RESPONDING TO ITS DIFFERENT CONTEXT. WHILE IN THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, WE SEEK FOR MORE PRIVACY ON THE ELEMENTS AND STRUCTURE DUE TO THE VERTICALITY OF THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE. IN THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE, WE PLAY WITH A LIGHTER STRUCTURE, RECESSED BALCONIES, ALLOWING PRIVACY, LIGHT, AND VENTILATION. THE STAFF DID INCLUDE A CONDITION REGARDING THE OVERHANGS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE DESIGN, UH, TO CREATE A CONTEXTUAL RESILIENT BUILDING. WE INTENTIONALLY WORKED WITH PUSH AND PULL VOLUMES ON THE SECOND AND THIRD LEVEL. NEED ONE MORE MINUTE? HOW MUCH? ONE MORE MINUTE. ONE MORE MINUTE. CAN WE ONE MORE MINUTE PLEASE. UH, CAN YOU MAKE IT THREE, PLEASE? OH, THREE, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UM, SO WE CREATE THIS PUSH AND PULL TO ACCOMMODATE THE FIRST LEVEL, UM, OF THE HUMAN SCALE AND THIS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY APPROACH. UM, AND THE OVERHANG ON THE TOP FLOOR IS ACTUALLY A BYPRODUCT OF THE RECESS VOLUMES, WHICH ALSO INTRODUCES A UNIQUE STRUCTURE TO THE MIAMI BEACH FABRIC. ON THE LENNOX AVENUE SIDE, WHICH IS THIS CALL OUT HERE, WE HAVE THE OVERHANG, UM, SITTING 25 FEET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. SO EXCEEDING THE 25, 20 FEET MINIMUM, UM, SETBACK. AND ON THE MICHIGAN SIDE, UM, WE HAVE THE SEC BACK EVEN GREATER WITH MORE THAN 30 FEET OF SEPARATION FROM THE TREE. AND THE TOP FLOOR BEING HAVING THIS LARGER FOOTPRINT ALLOWS FOR A LARGER GREEN ROOF, WHICH ENHANCES BUFFERING FOR ROOFTOP AMENITIES AND SUPPORTS THE PROJECT AIM FOR SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT GOALS. FOR THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE DESIGN FEATURE TO BE MAINTAINED SO WE CAN PROPERLY FULFILL ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. UM, AND TO WRAP UP THIS PRESENTATION, HERE ARE SOME INTERIOR VIEWS PORTRAYING THE PRIVACY, UM, AND BUFFER THAT THE LOUVERS, RECESS, BALCONIES, AND GREENERY OFFERS ALONG ALL LEVELS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU, UH, CAN SEE THE SENSITIVITY THAT WE'VE, UM, PRODUCED HERE. DEFINITELY WORKING VERY WELL WITH STAFF TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAS ZERO VARIANCES, UM, AND IS CONTEXTUAL. UM, TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE, UM, THE POINT THAT, UH, LOUISA WAS MAKING ABOUT THE OVERHANGS, THERE IS A CONDITION, UM, IT'S IC ONE A, UH, THAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED, UM, THAT REQUEST THAT THAT OVERHANG BE, UM, REDUCED AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE ELIMINATED SO THAT THE, UH, CAREFUL [01:00:01] AND UH, THOUGHTFUL DESIGN THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IS, IS WHAT WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE. AND WITH THAT, OUR ENTIRE TEAM IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I WISH TO RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF NECESSARY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS EITHER FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF? 'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY SKIPPED THAT. SO I'LL START WITH ELIZABETH 'CAUSE SHE'S, YEAH, NO, I, YEAH. SO COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW WHERE THE OVERHANG THAT THE CITY IS ASKING YOU TO CUT BACK AND YOU'D LIKE TO MAINTAIN SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND? SURE, SURE. IF YOU CAN CALL UP THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST. OKAY. SO IT'S BOTH ON THE LENNOX AVENUE AND ON MICHIGAN AVENUE. SO ON THE, ON WEST FLOOR, MAYBE YOU CAN SHOW THAT ON THE RENDERING. SO IF YOU WOULD CUT BACK THOSE TWO OVERHANGS, YOUR WAIVER FOR LOT COVERAGE WILL GO AWAY. I DON'T THINK WE'VE, UH, WELL, THERE IS SOME BUILDING BELOW AT THE, AT THE GROUND LEVEL THAT MAY ACTUALLY COUNT. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT, AND THAT'S NOT THEIR PER PERSON OF STAFF, I BELIEVE, BRINGING THAT UP, RIGHT? I DON'T THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE LOCK COVERAGE, AND THAT'S NOT THE REASON WHY WE HAD THAT RECOMMENDATION. NO, THANK YOU. IT'S JUST A DESIGN, THE DESIGN INTENT. UM, IT HAS FURTHER SETBACKS THEN REQUIRED. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM A, YOU KNOW, FROM A, DEFINITELY FROM A DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE A, A UNIQUE BUILDING THAT IS STILL, UM, RESPECTS AND HAS OPENINGS TOO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE, THE SOUTH SIDE, ALL THOSE CORNERS ARE VERY MUCH OPEN AND AIRY AND IT PUSHES THE BUILDING, THE ACTUAL BUILDING WALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS FURTHER SET BACK BECAUSE OF THOSE BALCONIES. SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATE, IT'S A, IT'S A UNIQUE CHARACTERISTIC OF THIS BUILDING AND IT IS PART OF THE DESIGN. SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UM, APPROVING IT AS DESIGNED. SO, MICHAEL, COULD YOU GO OVER WHY, I'M SORRY, . ITS NOT, LET'S FINISH THIS. THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A HARD RED LINE FOR US. UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION. I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, MATT'S ARGUMENT NOW THAT, THAT, UM, THEY ARE RECESSING THE OTHER FLOORS BEYOND WHAT THE REQUIRED SETBACKS ARE. AND IT'S ONLY THE, UM, THE UPPER LEVEL THAT, THAT, THAT, UM, THEY'RE ASKING, UM, TO HAVE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TOP CLOSER TO THE STREET. AND THAT ALSO DOES COMPLY WITH THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT PROJECTING FURTHER INTO THAT. SO I DO UNDERSTAND UNDER ARGUMENT, AND I THINK THAT THE ARCHITECT FOR BRINGING THAT, THAT SECTION TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT A HARD RED LINE FOR US IF THE BOARD LIKES TO DESIGN. IT'S JUST WE FELT THAT IT DOES APPEAR SORT OF TOP HEAVY, UM, WHEN, WHEN VIEWED FROM THE STREET. SO WE THOUGHT THERE'D BE A RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION WE COULD PROVIDE, BUT IF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, ALEXA DESIGN WERE NOT OPPOSED, YOU KNOW, UM, GENERALLY TO THIS CONCEPT. I ALSO WOULD POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS FLAMINGO PARK DISTRICT DOES HAVE ONE OF THE STRICTEST REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF HEIGHT LIMITED TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT. AND WHILE OTHER AREAS OF THE CODE WERE MODIFIED TO ALLOW INCREASE IN HEIGHT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERATION OF, UM, RESILIENCY REQUIREMENTS AND PUSHING EVERYTHING HIGHER, THIS AREA WAS NEVER LOOKED AT AGAIN IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. SO, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE UNREASONABLE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE CODE TO, TO BE MODIFIED, TO ALLOW HIGHER HEIGHT HERE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THESE, UM, RESILIENCY EFFORTS. SO WITH THAT, IF THE BOARD LIKES THE DESIGN, WE WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS OVERALL, UM, DESIGN IS PRESENTED TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, RAY. UM, YOU KEEP REFERRING TO THIS AS APARTMENTS, SO IT IS APARTMENTS NOT CONDOMINIUMS, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S INTENDED. MY QUESTION IS, SINCE THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT STAIRWELLS TO GET UP TO THE APARTMENTS, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A LOBBY? WHY DO YOU HAVE A LOBBY THERE? UM, I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANNA HAVE A GYM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS, NOT A LOBBY. YEAH, SO WE HAVE AN EXTERIOR LOBBY TO, UM, ACCOMMODATE AND HAVE AN NICER TRANSITION AS YOU APPROACH THE BUILDING. BUT, UM, THAT'S A, BUT SINCE YOU CAN'T GET FROM THAT LOBBY TO EACH, YOU HAVE TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE TO A STAIRWELL. SO YOU'RE NOT STAYING INSIDE A BUILDING. YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO SORT OF LIKE GO THE UNDERSTUDY WHERE THE, OR UNDER WHERE THE PARKING IS OR WHATEVER. I, I JUST DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A LOBBY, UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT TELLING US, IT'S JUST A THRESHOLD TO WELCOME, UM, THE USER. BUT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE COULD CONSIDER TO GIVE IT A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. OKAY. UM, RANDY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH. UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE SOUTH ELEVATION ON PAGE A 4 0 1. IT APPEARS THE ENTIRE SOUTH ELEVATION [01:05:01] ARE PLANTERS THAT EXTEND FROM ONE END OF THE BUILDING TO THE OTHER IN FRONT OF ALL THE BALCONIES. IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? AND THE PLANTER'S ONLY A FOOT AND A HALF WIDE, THE DIRT, ONE FOOT 11 INCHES. I MEAN, THE WHOLE FACADE IS PLANTERS. YES. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY, MITCH? YEAH, UH, ALLUDING TO WHAT RAY WAS, UH, UH, MENTIONED. WHERE, WHERE WILL THE MAIL BE DELIVERED? THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. UM, SO WE HAVE MAIL ROOM AT THE LOBBY, . UM, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PURPOSES TOO. GOTCHA. THANKS, HASKELL. I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, ON A 4 0 3, YOU SHOW THE EAST ELEVATION WITH THE LINE OF SIGHT. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE NOT SHOWING THE LINE OF SIGHT TO THE SOUTH WHERE ALL THE HOMES ARE ABUTTING THIS PROPERTY, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? DO YOU HAVE? IT'S 8 4 0 3. UM, YEAH, NO, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REASON WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE SET. UM, I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH TO, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ALLEY RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH. AND THEN, UM, WE COULD TAKE THE, BUT THE ALLEY DOESN'T RUN ALL THE WAY WEST. IT STOPS SHORT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDING, BETWEEN THE TWO ROWS OF HOMES ON, YES. MICHIGAN AND, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UH, LENNOX. YEAH. SIDE, LENNOX SIDE. IT'S RIGHT. SO THE ALLEY TURNS SOUTHWARD. MM-HMM . SO ALL THOSE HOMES ON LENNOX WILL STILL BE AFFECTED, SORRY, BY, UH, THE HEIGHT OF THIS BUILDING, CORRECT? YES. UM, ONE MORE THING. THE RENDERING SHOWS THIS STRUCTURE TO BE AT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, BUT IT IS IN FACT ANOTHER STORY TALLER. IS IT NOT? NO, IT'S NOT, NOT A FULL STORYTELLER AT ALL. THE UNDERSTORY HAS A LOWER MINIMUM ALLOWED ON OUR PROJECT, AND IT OFFSETS, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IDENTICAL, BUT IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER, BUT, BUT IT'S COMPARABLE IN HEIGHT. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT DEFINITELY NOWHERE NEAR A FULL STORY. TALLER, THE UNDERSTORY FOR RESILIENCY. RIGHT? IT'S AN AREA THAT'S, UH, NON INHABITABLE WATER CAN FLOW THROUGH, AND SO THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE LOWER THAN THE FLOOR THAT IS BUILT, UM, IN THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH. BUT GETTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, IS THERE A REASON WHY THIS WASN'T SHOWN AS TO THE LINE OF SIGHT ON, UM, NO SPECIFIC REASON? UH, WE COULD INCLUDE THAT IN, UM, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE TO DRAW THAT UP, SORRY, IF YOU WERE TO DRAW THAT UP, IT WOULD AFFECT A NUMBER OF HOMES ON THE, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. THEY'D BE LOOKING STRAIGHT AT THIS BUILDING LOOMING OVER THEM. SO, MR. MAYOR, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM, BOTH RENDERED VIEWS, UH, CLOSE UP AS WELL AS THE CONTEXTUAL NEIGHBOR ONES FOR YOU TO SEE. THE IMPACT, UH, LINE OF SIGHT ARE TYPICALLY FOR THINGS LIKE ROOFTOP EXI, UH, ADDITIONS, WHICH WE'RE NOT DOING HERE. SO WE PUT THIS IN HERE VOLUNTARILY. IT WASN'T AN ACTUAL REQUIREMENT, SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S, IT'S STILL CONVEYING INFORMATION THAT I'M ASKING ABOUT. SURE. BUT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER, UH, MANY OTHER DRAWINGS INCLUDING OUR CONTEXTUAL RENDERINGS THAT CAN, CAN LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. IT IS AN RM UH, ONE DISTRICT. WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, A THREE STORY BUILDING. UH, AND I, AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. IT'S, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE BUILDING NOT BE VISIBLE. UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS PUSH, WE'VE, WE'VE MAINTAINED THAT 10 FOOT SETBACK, A HUNDRED PERCENT, NO PROJECTIONS. AND THEN, UH, EXCEPT FOR THOSE, UH, PLANTERS, THE, UH, INTERIOR WALLS ARE FURTHER SEVEN FEET, I BELIEVE, SETBACK. YES. UH, SO WE'RE SET, OUR INTERIOR WALLS ON THE SOUTH ARE 17 FEET FURTHER SETBACK FROM OUR SOUTH NEIGHBORS TO BE RESPECTFUL TO PROVIDE THAT BUFFER, THAT TRANSITION. AND OF COURSE, THERE'S LANDSCAPING WITHIN THAT 10 FOOT. UH, THERE'S NO OPENINGS WHATSOEVER ON THE SOUTH, BOTH TO THE ALLEY, THAT'S TO THE SOUTH ON THE, UH, EASTERN SIDE AND, UH, TO THE HOME. THAT'S ALSO ON THE, ON THE WESTERN SIDE. AGAIN, TO BE, TO BE AS RESPECTFUL. SO BASICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A GREEN WALL, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WOULD BE WHAT THESE NEIGHBORS ARE, ARE VIEWING, UH, AS WELL AS THE OPENNESS AND CUTOUTS, UM, AT THE CORNERS, UH, TO, AGAIN, AGAIN, PUSH OUR VOLUME, UH, FURTHER CENTRALIZED ON THE PROPERTY. IF YOU WILL REFRESH MY MEMORY, HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN FAR ARE YOU ASKING FOR? NO, NO, NO. THERE'S NO, UH, IS IT LOT COVERAGE THAT WE'RE [01:10:01] TALKING ABOUT? YES. LOT, LOT COVERAGE. MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN THE LOT COVERAGE. UH, 45% REQUIRED. WE'RE AT 64. UM, HOWEVER WE HAVE, WELL, THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH WAS APPROVED FOR APPROXIMATELY 63, SO WE'RE COMMENSURATE TO THE WAIVER THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THAT PROJECT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SAMPLE OF PERVIOUS PAVERS THAT WILL BE ALL THROUGHOUT THE GROUND LEVEL, THIS UNDERSTORY LEVEL. UM, THE CITY CODE DOESN'T, WHILE THOSE ARE RESILIENT ASPECTS OF, UH, APPROPRIATE STORMWATER AND RESILIENCY MANAGEMENT, THE CODE DOESN'T TECHNICALLY COUNT THEM AS PERVIOUS. SO EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, ELEMENT WHICH WE PLAN TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THE, TO COME TO OUR AID, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE A LOWER LOT COVERAGE, UH, AND OR THAT'S HELPING TO OFFSET THE CONCERN OF HAVING A LOT COVERAGE. RIGHT. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO, UH, HELP WITH OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE, UH, PLANTINGS ON ALL LEVELS AND, UH, QUITE SUBSTANTIAL ON THE ROOF ITSELF, UH, WHICH WILL ALL BE TRUE GREEN PLANTING. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE ANYTHING ARTIFICIAL. UH, AND SO THAT WILL, UH, AGAIN, HELP US TO OFFSET, UM, AND BE MORE STORMWATER RESILIENT. BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S ABOUT A 20% INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING. YES, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. CAN I ADD A COMMENT ON THE LOT COVERAGE? UM, SO THAT COMES FROM THE GENERAL SECTION OF THE RM ONE DISTRICT. SO GENERALLY, RM DISTRICTS ALLOW A HEIGHT OF, OF 50 FEET. SO TYPICALLY WITHIN 50 FEET YOU CAN DO FOUR OR FIVE STORIES. IN THIS CASE OF FLAMINGO PARK, UM, THEY'RE RESTRICTED TO 35 FEET, SO YOU CANNOT GET MORE THAN THREE STORIES IN THAT, IN THAT 33 STORIES OF LIVING AREA. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER. IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GO TO THE TYPICAL RM ONE OF 50 FEET, THEY COULD DO IT, UH, ONE, ONE MORE FLOOR AND CONSOLIDATE THEIR, UM, THEIR STRUCTURE LIMITED TO THE FOOTPRINT AND PROBABLY NOT HAVE TO, OR NOT, REQUIRE NOT ASK FOR THE, UM, LOT COVERAGE WAIVER. IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE LINE OF SIGHT REQUIREMENTS, THE CODE DOES HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR LI UH, FOR A COMPLYING OR, UM, LINE OF SIGHT FOR ELEVATOR BULKHEADS LOCATED ABOVE THE MAIN ROOF LINE WHEN VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THEIR LINE OF SIGHT TAKEN FROM THE STREET BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY SHOW THAT THEIR ELEVATOR BULKHEADS ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM, FROM THE, FROM THE SIDEWALK. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, A LINE OF SIGHT FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF THE SOUTH. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? JUST GOING BACK TO THE LOBBY, IS THE POSSIBILITY, THE REASON YOU HAVE THE LOBBY IS BECAUSE YOU INTEND TO DO TRANSIENT RENTAL? SHORT TERM RENTAL? I THINK, I THINK RAY, UM, WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE, UM, UM, PROPERTIES TO HAVE COMMUNAL SPACES ACTUALLY IN, UM, SOME AREAS, SOME AREAS OF THE CITY WE DO REQUIRE HAVING, YOU KNOW, A LOBBY AND SORT OF THOSE OF COMMUNAL ASPECTS. SO I DO THINK IT IS NICE TO HAVE THAT FOR SOMEONE TO, TO MEET GUESTS. SO WE ARE, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING A, YOU KNOW, A LOBBY AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. TYPICALLY FOR A, A TRADITIONAL TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU ENTER INTO EACH TOWN HOME, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT SITUATION. BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU DO HAVE A FRONT FACING, YOU KNOW, STREET ELEMENT. SO WE DO THINK IT IS NICE TO HAVE THAT LOBBY AS A, AS AN ENTRANCE TO THE, TO THE PROJECT. I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU NORMALLY, BUT THE WAY THIS BUILDING IS SET UP AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BASICALLY THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, WELL, THEY ALSO, THEY COULD NOT, THEY COULD NOT HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THIS IS RM ONE. THE MINIMUM RENTAL IS SIX MONTHS IN A DAY. SO THEY COULD NOT HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND JUST TO THAT POINT, RAY, I BELIEVE, I'VE NOT BEEN INSIDE OF IT, BUT I'VE DRIVEN BY IT AND PARKED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, THE, THAT ARE LIKE THE TOWN HOMES ALSO HAS A LOBBY. YEAH. SO NOT, NOT UNHEARD OF. GO AHEAD MITCH. QUESTIONS? SURE. UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE WATER FEATURES? YES. SO WE HAVE WATER FEATURES BY THE ENTRANCE APPROACH IN BOTH, UM, LENNOX AND MICHIGAN AVENUE SIDE IS TO CREATE, UM, CONNECTION WITH THE GREEN ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO, UM, ACT AS A, AS A WELCOMING APPROACH TO, UM, TO THE SITE. AND WE LIKE TO PLAY WITH, UH, THESE NATURAL ELEMENTS TOGETHER. AND WHAT, WHAT IS IT? IS IT A FOUNTAIN? IT'S LIKE A, A FRONT BASIN, LIKE SHALLOW AREA. UM, BUT WE, WE NEED TO DEVELOP, DEVELOP FURTHER THIS. OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S ONLY ONE MEANS OF, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE GARAGE OR, OR THE UNDERSTORY OR TWO ACCESS POINTS? JUST, JUST THE ONE FROM MICHIGAN. IN FACT, WE, UH, OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN HAD A THROUGH FROM LENNOX TO MICHIGAN, [01:15:01] UM, THAT WAS CONTRIBUTING TO SOME VARIANCE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD IN ORDER TO ORIENT IT THAT WAY. AND STAFF, AGAIN, WORKING WELL WITH THEM SUGGESTED IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE AN OLD, AND THEY PREFERRED ONLY THE ONE ENTRANCE ON MICHIGAN. SO, UM, IT ACTUALLY, UH, THAT WAS WHY WE HAD SOME TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, UH, GET US, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD MAKE ALL THE PARKING FIT UNDER THE BUILDING, UH, 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED TO PROJECT INTO THE SIDE, UH, SETBACKS. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, IT ACTUALLY HELPED. AND WE CAN CONFIRM THAT, UH, THE, UH, VEHICULAR CIRCULATION WORKS WITH THE ONE WAY IN AND OUT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. A POINT, MATT. SO, UM, UNTIL PROBABLY FIVE OR 10 YEARS AGO, THE CODE ACTUALLY ALLOWED PARKING TO STICK OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THESE BUILDINGS, WHICH HAD MORE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. WE MODIFIED THE CODE TO REQUIRE THAT PARKING BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. SO WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT, THAT SITUATION, ESPECIALLY FOR LOTS LARGER THAN, UM, 50 OR 60 FEET IN WIDTH. SO, UH, ON THAT MATTER IS, UH, WHAT TYPE OF CLADDING OR VENTILATION, UH, WILL THERE BE IN THAT UNDERSTORY ALONG THE, UH, UH, INTERIOR OF THE, UH, LOT? UM, SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, UM, THE SIDES WOOD, LIKE SLEDS THAT WE HAVE ON THE FACADES. SO THIS IS A SET. HELLO? HELLO. WELL, THIS IS A SAMPLE, IF YOU CAN BRING IT TO THEM. OKAY. PLEASE. UM, THIS WOULD, OH, THANK YOU. UM, IT'S ALUMINUM, UM, WITH A, A WOOD GRAIN TREATMENT. YEAH. FINISH. SO WOOD GRAIN FINISH AND COLOR FOR THIS WARMTH MATERIAL AND ALSO TO COMPLIMENT THE, UM, VEGETATION. OKAY. AND THIS WILL BE FASTENED INTO A, UH, YEAH. STEEL VERTICAL. YES. SO IT'S A HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL, UM, ATTACHMENT. SO WE SHOULD HAVE HORIZONTAL, UM, ELEMENTS THAT THE VERTICAL ATTACHES TO IT. AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE NEED TO DEVELOP FURTHER. UM, WE COULD HAVE OPERABLE, UM, FOR THE FACADE, FOR THE WINDOWS AND, AND SLIDING DOORS. OKAY. AND THOSE PIECES, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY, 24 FEET LONG OR, AND THEY'LL BE THE, THE SAMPLE YOU SHOWED US HAS TWO UH, HOLES IN THERE. YEAH, THAT'S NOT, IS, THAT'S NOT TYPICAL. THIS IS JUST TO SEE THE MATERIAL, THE, THE, UM, ALUMINUM WITH THE, THE COLOR TREATMENT. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE RE IN THE RENDERINGS HERE, UM, IT WOULD BE THE STORY LEVELS, THE STORY HEIGHT. SO APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET FOR THE, OKAY, SO WHAT WILL WE BE, WHAT WILL WE, WE BE SEEING FROM THE STREET? THE, UH, THE TOP SIDE WHERE THE HOLES APPEAR OR, OR WILL THEY BE STACKED WITH A, UH, OPENING BETWEEN THEM? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO IT WOULD, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SOLID VOLUME ITSELF? IT WOULD BE A SOLID, IT, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SHAPE AT ANY MEANS. IT WOULD BE A SOLID, UM, PIECE. AND IF WE'RE MOUNTING IT, UM, ON, ON THE BOTTOM, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE STILL DEVELOPING. UM, BUT IF IT'S MOUNTED FROM THE BOTTOM, THEN THE, IT WOULD BE SITTING ON THE FLOOR SLAB. BUT IF IT'S MOUNTED, UM, BEHIND WITH THE, THE, UM, HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DETAIL DRAWING IN THE PRESENTATION. UM, IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP. YEAH. HERE, SO THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE. IN THIS CASE WE HAVE THE HORIZONTAL MEMBERS, UM, BEHIND THE, THE VERTICAL MEMBERS. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO DEVELOP FURTHER, UH, FOR SPECIFIC SCENARIOS. BUT IF YOU'RE FROM THE STREET, AND THIS IS WITH THE HORIZONTAL MEMBER BEHIND IT APPLICATION, THEN YOU WOULD SEE THE BOTTOM OF THIS, WHICH WOULD BE SOLID, THE SAME COLOR AND FINISH. YOU DON'T HAVE THESE VOID, THIS VOIDS OR, OR THIS, IT'S JUST FOR REPRESENTATION OF MATERIAL. AND HOW IS THAT FINISH THAT WOOD GRAIN TYPE FINISH GOING TO WEATHER OVER THE DECADES? UM, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S POWDER COATED IN A SENSE THAT IT, IT WOULDN'T NECESS, IT DOESN'T GET AFFECTED BY IT. IT'S VERY DURABLE. THAT, THAT IF THAT WERE TO GET SCRATCHED, YOU, YOU'D SEE THE LUM, [01:20:01] THE ALUMINUM OBVIOUSLY. UH, HOW, HOW DO YOU CORRECT THAT OR IS WILL THAT BE, HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED? UM, YEAH, WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, HAVE MAINTENANCE TO THE PIECES WITH ALRIGHT, POWDER COATING. IS THIS A PRODUCT USED ALL OVER MIAMI? YEAH, IT'S POWDER COATED, UH, MATERIALS USED WELL WITH QUITE FREQUENTLY. I'M REFERRING TO THE WOOD GRAIN TYPE OF FINISH, IF, IF IT'S USED IN MIAMI. YEAH. DO YOU KNOW OF OTHER YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT WE ARE, WE INSTALLED IT. UM, AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. ALRIGHT. UH, RAY IS THIS BUILDING DESIGNED TO HAVE 24 HOUR SECURITY BECAUSE WITH THAT EXTERIOR LOBBY AND, AND NO, NO FENCE, NO GATE OR ANYTHING. I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST INVITING PEOPLE TO COME UP AND MAYBE SLEEP THERE AT NIGHT OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, WE DO LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE, UH, THOUGHT THAT THROUGH, UH, TO YOUR DEGREE OF CONCERN, BUT THEY CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A, A SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO THAT'S RIGHT. TO SURPRISE YOU. AND JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SHOWING A, A FRONT WALL, A GATE OR SOMETHING THERE. YEAH, I'M SURE WE COULD ADD THE FRONT WALL. SO THEY WILL HAVE A SECURITY GATE PERMITTING AROUND THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS ACCESS GATE FOR THE GARAGE. YES. JUST DOESN'T SHOW IT ON YET. YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GATE IS DONE IN A WAY SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT QUEUING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR TRAFFIC, ELIZABETH, YOU HAD QUESTIONS? UH, YES, YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD BRING UP TO THE SCREEN, UH, DRAWING A 10 0 4, YOU HAVE FOUR RENDERINGS ON THAT. OH, FOUR RENDERINGS. THANK YOU. SO WE DON'T HAVE PRE WE'RE NOT PRESENTING SPECIFICALLY THE, THE STAT THAT YOURE SEEING, BUT IS IT EXTERIOR RENDERINGS? RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO YEAH, SO, UH, THAT ONE COULD BE A GOOD ONE. UH, I MEAN, YOU SHOW LIKE EACH FLOOR, LIKE FLOATING ON TOP OF THE FLOOR BELOW. HOW DO YOU, WHAT'S THE DETAIL THAT YOU DEVELOP TO CREATE THAT KIND OF EFFECT? SO, UM, WE HAVE ON THE STRUCTURAL BEAMS, UM, UH, SOME SORT THIS DETAIL YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE BETTER. UM, SO THE STRUCTURAL BEAM IS ACTUALLY RECESSED AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, UH, TREATMENT TO GIVE THIS IMPRESSION OF FLOATING LEVELS. OH, OKAY. SO THAT DETAIL GOES AROUND EV. CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER JUST COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT THERE IS A VERY LARGE SETBACK ON THE GROUND FLOOR, AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE FACING MICHIGAN AVENUE AND OH, YOU JUST PASSED. IF YOU KEEP GOING SLOW, I CAN STOP YOU ON THE IMAGE I WAS LOOKING FOR. KEEP GOING. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD ONE. OKAY. SEE THAT FLOOR JUST ABOVE THE, THE GARAGE, THE CAR ENTRANCE? MM-HMM . IT'S REALLY SET BACK IN RELATION TO THE FLOORS ABOVE, WHICH MEANS VERY LITTLE LIGHT WOULD BE GETTING TO THOSE SPACE. AND THERE IS ALSO A BALCONY AND THEN YOU GET TO THE LIVABLE SPACE. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT THE QUALITY OF LIGHT OR YOU HAVE INSIDE THOSE SPACES, AND THAT'S THE LIVING ROOM, I BELIEVE, OF THAT UNIT. YEAH, SO THIS UNIT, IT'S, UH, SPECIFICALLY IT HAS A CORNER BALCONY. SO YES, THAT BALCONY IS ACTUALLY A THINNER, UM, BALCONY ON THE FRONT, UH, IN THE, ON THE EAST SIDE MICHIGAN. UM, BUT THE ACTUAL AREA THAT WE, UM, THAT THE, UM, RESIDENT WOULD, UH, BE USING AS A BALCONY EXTERIOR AREA IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO BECAUSE IT'S A CORNER UNIT, I, WE BELIEVE THIS, UH, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FULLY IMPACT BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH SIDE BALCONY AND, UH, GLAZING FACADE WITH NATURAL LIGHTING COMING IN. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH, I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WHAT I WOULD THINK IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR RENDERING THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF VEGETATION THERE, WHICH WILL BE BLOCKING THE SUN. 'CAUSE THEN THE SOUTH ELEVATION YOU GET MAINLY LIKE THE LATE MORNING, EARLY AFTERNOON SUN, RIGHT? AND IF YOU ARE ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND YOU HAVE THE T VEGETATION HOPEFULLY TO MATURE TO THE WAY YOUR RENDERING IS SHOWING, THEN YOUR SOURCE OF LIGHTING WILL BE BLOCKING IN. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. I MEAN, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I, THE DESIGN IS REALLY PRETTY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEP, GO AHEAD. UM, CAN YOU GO THIS, UH, RENDERED ELEVATION OF 1004, [01:25:01] WHICH IS THE SOUTH FACE? I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT YOUR FACADE IS NO, THE RENDERED ELEVATION. YEAH. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S PREDICATED THE FACT THAT'S GONNA BE ALL THESE LANDSCAPE PLANTERS. HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN LANDSCAPE PLANTERS ON A RENTAL UNIT? SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A IRRIGATION SYSTEM, UM, THAT WILL, SO IN THAT DETAIL THAT I SHOWED OF THE STRUCTURE, UM, ALL THE, THE PLANTERS ARE GONNA BE, UM, MAINTAINED BY, THIS IS IRRIGATION SYSTEM, BUT YOU HAVE NO ACCESS FOR REMOVING DEAD PLANTS, TRIMMING PLANTS, UH, IT'S ONLY TWO FEET DEEP AND, AND, UM, TWO FEET WIDE. IT'S A VERY SMALL PLANTER ON THE SOUTH FACE. AND ANYBODY WHO'S TRIED TO GROW PLANTS FACING SOUTH FLORIDA WOULD REALIZE IT'S PROBABLY THE HARDEST PLACE TO GROW ANYTHING. I WOULD ARGUE THIS WILL LOOK LIKE THIS FOR ABOUT A WEEK , AND IT'LL BE HALF DEAD IRRIGATION WILL NOT KEEP THIS SURVIVING, UH, THAT AT THE MAGNITUDE OF LANDSCAPING THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH IS ADMIRABLE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IN A RENTAL UNIT, YOU CAN'T GO INTO EVERY UNIT AND MAINTAIN THEIR BALCONY. IF IT WERE A HOTEL OR SOMETHING ELSE, YOU COULD, BUT THERE'S NO ACCESS BETWEEN THE BALCONIES. IT'S A, A DIVIDER WALL. SO EVERY ONE OF THESE BALCONIES IS STRICTLY ACCESSED BY THE PERSON WHO'S RENTING THE UNIT. CORRECT. YOU CAN'T GET TO THE BALCONY OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE UNIT. YES. I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, UH, CONSULTATION, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE US TO HAVE A SERVICE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKES APPOINTMENTS AS NEEDED TO GO IN THROUGH THE UNITS TO, UH, TO MANAGE THOSE, UH, EVERY UNIT. YES. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD MITCH. YEAH, JUST A QUESTION ON THE SAME PAGE. A 1 0 0 4, THE EAST ELEVATION LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE SHOWING OR DEPICTING SUNNY DAY FLOODING. IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? , THAT'S TRUE. REALISTIC REPRESENTATION. AND THE WATER IS NOT GETTING THE WATER AT THE DRIVEWAY. YEAH. HERE. YEAH. , UH, TRUTH AND RENDERINGS, , IT DOES RAIN IN SOUTH FLORIDA A LITTLE, SO I'M TOLD. OKAY. BUT YOUR DESIGN IS DOING ITS JOB BECAUSE IT'S NOT GETTING TO THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S RETAINING THE WATER IN THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHAT PUBLIC WORKS WANTS TO SEE. RIGHT? IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, WE'LL DO BOARD DISCLOSURES. ANY DISCLOSURES? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO. OKAY. UH, WE CAN OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE HAVE SOME CALLERS ON ZOOM WITH HER HAND RAISED. UM, LET'S FIRST GO TO LORI MONACO. HI, LORI. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. HI, MY NAME IS LORI MONACO. I LIVE AT 10 30 15 STREET AND I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. UM, I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC PATTERN OF FLAMINGO PARK WHERE DENSITY BELONGS ON 15TH STREET AND NOT ON INTERIOR STREETS. LIKE MICHIGAN AVENUE, I HAVE FOUR KEY POINTS. ONE IS DENSITY. 15TH STREET IS ALWAYS CARRIED THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS. MICHIGAN IS A LOWER SCALE RESIDENTIAL STREET. A THREE STORY MID-BLOCK BUILDING BREAKS THAT PATTERN. NUMBER TWO, WAIVER. THIS PROJECT NEEDS A LOT COVERAGE WAIVER, AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT. MORE COVERAGE MEANS MORE INTENSITY, LESS LIGHT, LESS AIR, LESS LOCAL PARKING AND PRIVACY FOR NEIGHBORS. NUMBER THREE, SCALE, THE PROPOSED MASSING IS OUTTA SCALE WITH THE HISTORIC BLOCK AND WOULD VISUALLY DOMINATE THE SURROUNDING HOMES. UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, 10 30 WAS APPROVED AS A HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON BOTH OF THESE LOTS. AND ONCE SHIMA SCALED BACK AND ONLY, UH, DEVELOPED THE 15TH STREET LOT, IT WAS GIVEN THE APPROVAL TO HAVE A 62% DENSITY. UM, THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BUILD ON BOTH LOTS, AND IT WAS CONSIDERED THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE TOO BIG FOR THE SURROUNDING HOMES. AND MY LAST POINT IS THAT PRECEDENT APPROVING THIS WOULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR INCREMENTAL UPZONING ON INTERIOR STREETS CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF FLAMINGO PARK. SO I RESPECTIVELY REQUEST THAT THE HISTORIC BOARD DENY OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE HB, UH, HH PB 24 0 6 4 0. SO IT MATCHES THE HISTORICAL SCALE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT CALLER IS VARUN RAJ, GOOD MORNING TO YOU, SIR. THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. [01:30:01] YES, I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI, AND THIS IS RAJ. I'M A RESIDENT AT 10 32. I HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS WHAT LORI MENTIONED REGARDING ESPECIALLY CHANGING THE WHOLE FLAMINGO PARK, WHICH IS PRIMARILY A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO I CONSIDER, I HOPE THE BOARD CONSIDERS THAT, RIGHT? THAT I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST KEY. THAT'S MY BIGGEST OBJECTION. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER, UM, JUST HAS THE NAME ZOOM USER. HI, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN I'LL SWEAR YOU IN. HI, IT'S, UH, JANE CROP 1390 OCEAN DRIVE. HI. HI, JANE. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE JUST A GENERAL COMMENT AND IT PERTAINS TO THIS AND OTHER OF THESE NEW MODERN BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP IN FLAMINGO PARK AND VENETIAN ISLANDS, THESE KIND OF BOX CONCRETE BOXES AND GLASS. AND, UM, BESIDES THE FACT THAT THE WHOLE FLAMINGO PARK IS BEING, YOU KNOW, JUST THE CHARACTER, IT REALLY IS JARRING BECAUSE FLAMINGO PARK IS SO CHARMING WITH SO MANY ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS. AND THESE ARE, THE DETAILS ON THIS BUILDING ARE SO GENERIC. AND ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON, NOT JUST THIS BUILDING BUT IN GENERAL, IS THE USE OF POWDER COATING IN MIAMI BEACH. I'M A DESIGNER. I'VE WORKED FOR 45 YEARS ON COASTAL PROPERTIES AND POWDER COATING NEAR THE OCEAN IS JUST A DISASTER. MAYBE IT HAS A FIVE TO 10 YEAR LIFESPAN. ITS CHIPS FLAKES, IT CHALKS, IT FADES WITHIN FIVE TO 10 YEARS. AND SO POWDER COATING IS NOT REPAIRABLE. SO HOW I'D LIKE TO, MAYBE THESE, UH, ARCHITECTS CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION HOW IN FIVE TO 10 YEARS WHEN IT LOOKS TERRIBLE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PAINT OVER IT. SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? UM, I SUGGEST DOING SOME OTHER NATURAL MATERIAL, EVEN WOOD, LET IT FADE NATURALLY. SO IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, MORE ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT POWDER COATING IN GENERAL, I WOULD HIGHLY NOT RECOMMEND ON ANY BUILDING IN THIS AREA. THANKS. OUR NEXT CALLER IS JOHAN MOORE. YES, GOOD MORNING AGAIN. UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UM, UH, ONE PRACTICAL, UH, COMMENT TO ECHO A CONCERN ABOUT, UH, VEGETATION ON A SOUTH FACING FACADE. UH, I WOULD REMIND US THAT THE, UH, GOOD TIME COMMITTED TO, UH, CLIMBING VINING VEGETATION TO HIDE, UH, THE WALL THAT THEY AGREED TO BUILD IN ORDER TO SHIELD THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NOISE FROM THE ROOFTOP. AND THE LAST I LOOKED THAT VEGETATION WAS SERIOUSLY BAKED, UH, AND, AND NOT DOING WELL. UH, I THINK THAT IS A REAL CONCERN, UH, WHICH BRINGS ME TO, UH, A, A SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE POINT, UH, WHICH IS HAVE THE ARCHITECTS CONSIDERED AN ONSITE RAINWATER RUNOFF, UH, REUSE, UH, POSSIBILITY, UH, UH, RETAINING THAT IN, IN A PRESUMABLY A, A SUBTERRANEAN, UH, BASIN, UH, THAT COULD THEN BE PUMPED, UH, BACK UP POSSIBLY THROUGH, UH, UH, IRRIGATION TUBES INTO THESE SOUTH FACING PLANTERS SO THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH, UH, MAKING ARRANGEMENTS WITH TENANTS, UH, IN ORDER TO GET ACCESS THROUGH THEIR APARTMENTS TO WATER. UH, MY FINAL POINT, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT WERE RAISED BY ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, AT LEAST, UH, AT THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING. FPNA HAS NOT TAKEN THE POSITION. UH, AND DESPITE, UM, I THINK GREAT EFFORTS BY THE ARCHITECTS, UH, UH, ON THIS BUILDING AND ITS DESIGN, UH, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS BOARD TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY WEIGH IN, EITHER IN SUPPORT OF OR REQUESTING FURTHER MODIFICATION OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, THIS PROPOSAL IN PARTICULAR, BASED ON THE ONE CONCERN STATED BY A COUPLE OF THE, THE SPEAKERS, UH, THAT IT WILL PRESUMABLY INCENTIVIZE A CREEPING, UH, UH, OF ADDITIONAL, UH, REQUESTS FOR MORE HEIGHT, MORE FAR WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HISTORIC DISTRICT. THANK YOU. WE GO TO COMMENTS IN CHAMBER AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO, UM, ONLINE. SO GO TO CHAMBER OF COMMENTS. HI, IT'S ROGER BLAD AND MDPL 1000 OCEAN DRIVE. [01:35:01] WE SU WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT SUBJECT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. WE APPRECIATE THE DESIGN, THE SCALE, THE CONTEXT OF THE PROJECT. IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION PROJECT FROM MULTI-FAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTH. WE NOTE THAT THE DESIGN RELIES HEAVILY ON LANDSCAPING, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, AND THE LONG-TERM SUCCESS OF THE DESIGN RELIES ON THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THESE LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS. VERY IMPORTANT. THIS INFO PROJECT WILL ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MARKET RATE APARTMENTS, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MIAMI BEACH'S CONTINUED, UH, VITALITY. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ZOOM, ZOOM CALLERS. UH, NEXT IS, UH, DANIEL ERALDO. HI, DANIEL. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. I THINK THIS IS MY FIRST TIME CALLING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, DANIEL SERATO, SEVEN 30 10TH STREET, UH, NUMBER 1 0 2 IN THE FLAMINGO PARK DISTRICT. MANY OF YOU KNOW, I RECENTLY RAN FOR CITY COMMISSION AND THIS WAS, UH, ONE OF, UH, THE 12 OF 21 PRECINCTS WHERE I HAD THE MOST VOTES, ALTHOUGH UNFORTUNATELY I MISS A RUN UP BY 309 VOTES. ANYWAYS, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PRECINCT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS A RESIDENT AND A FORMER, UH, POTENTIALLY FUTURE CANDIDATE IS WE DO NEED HOUSING AND THIS BUILDING IS WITHIN THE REQUIRED ZONING. UM, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN SHMA WAS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD HANDLE IT, BUT IF YOU GO BY THEIR, NOW IT'S ABOUT A 40 FOOT WALL OF ARTIFICIAL, UH, FAKE VINES, WHICH I THINK REALLY IS NOT GOOD FOR THAT. SO WITH THIS RENDERING, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS REMOVE THE PLANTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GROW. BUT WE HAVE SO MANY EXAMPLES OF CATWALKS IN FLAMINGO PARK THAT DON'T HAVE LANDSCAPE THAT'S JUST PART OF URBAN LIVING. AND SO I THINK THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT WITHIN THE SCALE. IT'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY HEIGHT INCREASES, AND I URGE YOUR FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DANIEL. OUR NEXT AND LAST CALLER WITH HER HAND RAISED ON ZOOM IS HENNER. YES. GOOD MORNING. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, SOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. UM, I'M AN OWNER AT 10 30 15TH STREET AND I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERLINE, BUT VARUN AND LAURIE SAID, I GUESS THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CHARACTER, UM, OF FLAMINGO PARK. UM, MY UNIT FACES TO THE SOUTH, AND, UM, WE LOVE THIS VIEW INTO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, KNOWING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY, UH, BUILDINGS LIKE THIS IS PLANNED, UH, ON THE SIDE STREET RIGHT NOW. UM, AND I GUESS IT'S, IF WE START LIKE ALLOWING THOSE PROJECTS, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MIAMI BEACH IS WELL KNOWN FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SO I KINDLY ASK YOU TO EITHER GOING TO, TO HAVE A NICER LIKE FACADE, UH, LOOKING TO THE, TO THE NORTH, UM, OR EVEN LIMITING THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. YOU HAVE ANOTHER COLOR ON ZOOM. UM, CB I, UH, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN I'LL SWEAR YOU IN? HE LOWER, THEY LOWERED THEIR HAND. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR CALLERS ON ZOOM. ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS WISHES TO COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION? I I WOULD SUGGEST WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, WE'LL CLOSE THE CO PUBLIC COMMENT. DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, REBUTTAL TOWARDS THE, YES, IF I MAY, I'LL BE BRIEF. UM, AS WE MADE CLEAR WITH OUR ZONING, RIGHT, WE ARE DEFINITELY WITHIN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND COMPLYING NOT JUST WITH R ONE, BUT THE LOWER, MORE RESTRICTIVE, UH, FLAMINGO PARK, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT. UM, THIS IS INFILL DEVELOPMENT. THIS HAS BEEN A, UH, A PARKING LOT FOR SINCE 1973. UH, THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF US UH, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE, NOT ONLY THE LOT SPLIT, BUT THE RM ONE ZONING, UH, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT AND ALLOWED TO BUILD THEIR BUILDING. AND THAT BECAME PART OF THE CONTEXT. AND, UH, WE ARE HERE TO, WE THINK, IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY REMOVING THIS UNDERUTILIZED, UH, ESSENTIALLY BLIGHTED TYPE OF PARKING, UH, LOT WITH AN APPROPRIATE AND VERY GREEN, A NARROW COMPACT BUILDING. WE'RE VERY FAR PUSHING BACK FROM OUR SOUTH NEIGHBORS. UH, WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING AT GROUND LEVEL THAT, UM, FOR SURE WILL BE EASY TO MANAGE AND, UH, WILL BE MAINTAINED. UM, ON THE NORTH WE HAVE, UH, IN FACT, UM, MORE OF THE PRIVACY SCREENING ON OUR UNITS AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING WITHIN THAT 10 FOOT SETBACK, UH, TO, UH, BE SENSITIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS THERE. UH, AND THERE'S ESTABLISHED CASE LAW, UH, THAT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO RIGHT TO A VIEW ACROSS [01:40:01] PRIVATE PROPERTY. UH, WHILE THAT'S THE CASE, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO AGAIN, KEEP OUR BUILDING CENTRALLY, UH, LOCATED WITHIN THE LOT, UH, PROVIDE A BEAUTIFUL EXTERIOR AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING GREEN ON ALL LEVELS. UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WELL WE WILL HAVE BOARD MEMBER COMMENT. RANDY, ANY COMMENT? RIGHT. HASKELL MITCH STAFF HAVE, HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS CHANGED IN TERMS OF THE UM, DOES? NO, I JUST SAY IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPING, I AGREE THAT THE BUILDING COULD BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT THE LANDSCAPING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT I THINK THAT THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT LANDSCAPING. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD A CONDITION THAT WE NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY FAKE PLANS ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT CONDITION, UM, AND WE CAN ADD A CONDITION THAT ESPECIALLY REQUIRES THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THOSE LANDSCAPE PLANTERS. SO THAT COULD BE A VIOLATION OF THEIR, UM, APPROVAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT IS THERE'S SOME WAY STIPULA THAT THEY CAN'T REPLACE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED FOOT LONG PLANTERS WITH FAKE PLANTS 'CAUSE THEY ALL DIE. I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WORST LOOK OF THAT BUILDING. YOU COULD HAVE, IT'D BE BETTER NOT TO HAVE ANY PLANTS AND SIMPLY HAVE THE BU THEIR BALCONIES READ AS BALCONIES RATHER THAN AS GREEN WALL, WHICH IT WON'T BE GREEN. I, I I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THIS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. PROBABLY. ELIZABETH, ANY COMMENT? MY COMMENT WOULD BE TO MICHAEL IF WE HAVE LIKE A, AS, UM, CONDITION TO, THAT THE LANDSCAPE NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND WHO BEING FORCING THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE CONDITIONS ADDED, BUT IF THERE IS NO CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEN YEAH, SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S MEANINGLESS, RIGHT? SO IT'D BE EITHER, UM, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC COULD ADVISE CODE COMPLIANCE THAT THIS IS A CONDITION THAT, UM, IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED IN THE FINAL ORDER. THEY WOULD GET A CITATION AND THEY WOULD'VE TO EITHER CORRECT THAT VIOLATION BY, BY HAVING THE LANDSCAPING, UM, MAINTAINED OR, UM, UM, REFURBISHED OR ELSE THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND ASK FOR THAT, THAT CONDITION TO BE MODIFIED OR REMOVED. AND WE WOULD AGREE, AGREE TO SUCH CONDITION AS WELL AS FOR, YOU KNOW, REAL PLANTINGS NOT TO BE ARTIFICIAL. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WILL YOU HAVE COMMENT? JUST THAT I, I AGREE. I MEAN, IF I WAS RENTING AN APARTMENT, I WOULD NOT WANT SOMEBODY COMING INTO MY APARTMENT EVERY SINGLE WEEK AT WHATEVER TIME TO WATER THE PLANTS. UM, AND, AND TO ME, UM, THOSE PLANTS WILL LOOK LOVELY WHEN YOU FIRST PUT THEM IN, BUT, UM, KNOWING A LOT OF GARDENERS, IT TAKES A LOT MORE THAN JUST WATER. AND, AND SOME PLANTS IN THE SUMMER REQUIRE WATER TWICE A DAY BECAUSE THE ROOTS S BURN. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, I BELIEVE THERE'S IRRIGATION AND THE ISSUE IS REMOVAL, AND I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT IS, IS THE REMOVAL OF DEAD PLANTS OR TRIMMING OR WHATNOT. BUT THERE IS IRRIGATION IN THE DESIGN, BUT THERE IS, BUT THE SOUTH FACING IS A HUGE ISSUE. THE PLANTER IS NOT VERY LARGE. YOU COULD TECHNICALLY ALMOST REQUIRE WATERING EVERY DAY, AND THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO BE MONITORED VERY, VERY CLOSELY. AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE IRRIGATION'S WORKING. IT'S UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION. SO IT'S A DRIP SYSTEM, I THINK, UM, IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT ON THIS CONCEPT OF HAVING A RENTAL UNIT AND SOMEONE GOING THROUGH UNIT ONCE A WEEK TO MAINTAIN THE PLANTERS. IT'S JUST HIGHLY UNUSUAL AND WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE, TO SAY THE LEAST, TO ALLOW THAT ACCESS. IF I MAY, WE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DETAILS ON THE PLANTINGS THERE. UH, GO AHEAD. UH, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ELLA. UH, FROM OUR LANDSCAPE DATA, UH, FOR THIS KIND OF PROJECT, WE HAVE A, A DESIGN IRRIGATION, UH, WHERE, UH, WITH DRIP IRRIGATION WITH A CONTROLLER, WE CAN, UH, THE, THE, THE OWNER OR THE, THE MAINTENANCE GUY CAN CONTROLLER THE DAYS AND TIME THAT IS GOING TO BEED THE, THE PLANTS. ACCORDING WITH THE, WITH THE SEASON, ALL THE PLANT THAT WE ARE USING IS APPROPRIATE TO THE, LIKE A BEACH AREAS LIKE, UH, GRASS, UM, NATIVE GRASSES, EH, USES LIKE A BEACH. AREAS THEN IS, IS A WATER, IS A DROUGHT TOLERANT, THIS KIND OF PLANTS, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A A DEAD SOON. AND OF COURSE, AS, UH, MR. KOR SAYS THE PLANTS IS GOING TO DIE SOMETIMES AND NEED TO BE REPLACED, THAT IS GOING TO PART OF THE MAINTENANCE, THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE. [01:45:03] OKAY. IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT, YOU DO HAVE COMMENT. GO AHEAD. UH, UM, I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'VE TAKEN TO DEVELOP THIS DESIGN. LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF HARD THINKING WENT INTO IT. I PASS BY THE SITE OFTEN, PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A DAY AS I RIDE MY BIKE TO FLAMINGO PARK. YES, IT'S AN UNSIGHTLY SITE. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A EMPTY LOT RIGHT NOW, EMPTY, EMPTY ASPHALT PARKING LOT. AND THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING WOULD SURE BE AN ENHANCEMENT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT IT BELONGS ON THIS LOT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING THE FIVE POUNDS OF FEATHERS, WE'RE TRYING TO STUFF IT INTO A ONE POUND BAG IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME. AND, AND THE, UM, FACT THAT YOU'RE ASKING TO FOR ALMOST 20% INCREASE IN IN IN LOT COVERAGE. I'M NOT SURE HOW IT BOATS FOR THAT AREA. AND I'VE HEARD THE PEOPLE'S COMMENTS BEFORE WHERE, UH, MOST OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ALONG 15TH STREET AND WE'RE ENCROACHING ONTO MICHIGAN AVENUE. I THINK WE'RE SETTING UP A, THE WRONG PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. WE'VE SEEN ANOTHER PROJECT EARLIER TODAY THAT'S DOING THE SAME THING, BUILDING AN OVERSIZED PROJECT ON A SMALL LOT. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE ARE WE LOOKING AT ON THE BEACH? AGAIN, I, I LIKE THE DESIGN. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT BELONGS ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT. I THINK IT OVERWHELMS A LOT, UH, FOR THAT REASONS. I'LL SAVE MY VOTE TILL THE END. THANKS. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR BOARD COMMENT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SHOULD WE TAKE A STRAW POLL FIRST? I THINK, I THINK WE, THERE'S NO VARIANCES INVOLVED HERE, SO I THINK WE CAN MAKE A MOTION, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT. THERE'S NO VARIANCES, UH, PART OF THIS APPLICATION. IT'S JUST, IT IS A DESIGN, IT'S A WAIVER IN TERMS OF LOT COVERAGE. IT'S NOT A VARIANCE. SO THAT, THAT ANY SORT OF MOTION CAN INCLUDE EITHER A RECOMMENDATION FOR OR AGAINST THAT DESIGN WAIVER. SO UP TO WHAT PERCENTAGE? IT'S A WAIVER FOR THE LOT COVERAGE. SORRY, SAY AGAIN. SO WHEN IT'S A WAIVER, IT'S LIMITED RIGHT? TO HOW MUCH NO, NO. YOU ARE ASKING. NO, AND, AND, UM, A MODIFICATION OF THE LOT COVERAGE IS A, IS A DESIGN WAIVER, NOT A VARIANCE IN THIS CASE. SO IT COULD BE WHATEVER, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE CODE IS WRITTEN, THAT WOULD BE A, A VARIANCE REQUEST VERSUS A DESIGN REQUEST. BUT CURRENTLY UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITIONS IT'S 45%. RIGHT? THAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE'RE JUMPING UP TO 64%. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AS A DESIGN WAIVER. JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT INCLUDING THAT, IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN PUTTING FORTH A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT, UM, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LATER ON COME AND PUT UP FAKE PLANTS. YES. I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH A CONDITION THAT THERE'S NO ARTIFICIAL PLANTS AND THAT THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE, UM, THAT THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S SHOWN AT LEAST LENGTH, THE PLANTERS SHOWN OR WE'RE REQUIRED TO BE LANDSCAPED AND MAINTAINED, WE CAN ADD THOSE CONDITIONS. IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, OKAY. I, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. AND WITH THE AS DESIGNED MEMBER, THE OVERHANG, WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE THE CONDITION THAT STAFF REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE THIRD FLOOR TO BE ELIMINATED A CONDITION. I SEE. YEAH. THAT'S A CONDITION OF STAFF. YES, IC ONE A. SO IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA RECOMMEND IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, WHICH INCLUDES THE DESIGN PRESENTED HERE, THEN YOU WOULD REMOVE THAT CONDITION THAT MATT JUST MENTIONED. SO, SO STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED, UM, ICAI, CAI, IT'S IC ONE, I MEAN ONE ROMAN RULE ONE ICA, UM, WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OVERHANG ON THE THIRD FLOOR AND THEY HAVE ASKED FOR THAT CONDITION TO NOT BE APPLIED. STAFF HAS SAID THAT BASED ON THE EXPLANATION, IT'S NOT A HARD LINE FOR THEM AND THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. SO THE QUESTION IS IN YOUR MOTION, ARE YOU TAKE THAT CONDITION OUT? YES. ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT? ? OKAY. UM, YES. YEAH. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT CONDITION OUT, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE OTHER CONDITIONS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ARTIFICIAL PLANTS ARE EVER USED ON THIS BUILDING. I'D RATHER SEE AN EMPTY PLANNER. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CONDITION BEING REMOVED IS IC ONE A IC ONE A? YES. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? [01:50:08] OKAY. THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. OH, HOLD ON NICK, I WAS ABOUT TO SECOND ELIZABETH. OKAY. , DO YOU WANNA SECOND THAT MOTION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION. SHOULD WE TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE? WE CAN, WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. UM, MR. BRESLIN? YES. MR. CARGO. MR. MEYER? NO. MR. HOLLINSWORTH? YES. MR. NOVIK? YES. AND MS. LOVELL? YES. CONGRATULATIONS. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [5. HPB25-0672, 1701 James Avenue – Cadet Hotel.] OKAY, OUR NEXT APPLICATION IS HPB 25 DASH 0 7 0 6 7 2 17 0 1 JAMES AVENUE, THE CADET HOTEL. JUST A SECOND. SO THE CADET HOTEL IS A TWO STORY STREAMLINED MODERN BUILDING CONSTRUCTED 1941 AND CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC PROPERTIES. UM, INDEX RETAINS ITS ORIGINAL LOBBY AND ENTRANCE CONFIGURATION THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AFTER THE FACT APPROVAL FOR A WOOD DECK, A GLASS ROOF CANOPY, AND A GAZEBO LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD BECAUSE THE 40, THE 34 ROOM HOTEL HAS LIMITED INTERIOR AMENITY SPACE AND NO ABILITY TO EXPAND WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. THE OUTDOOR IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDE NEEDED GUEST AMENITIES WHILE ALTERING THE HISTORIC LOBBY OR PRIMARY ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. AND, UM, THE VIEWS OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE YARD ARE, UM, COMPLETELY SCREENED BY LANDSCAPING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING OF TWO VARIANCES. ONE IS A FRONT SETBACK VARIANCE REDUCED FROM 20 FEET, THE REQUIRED SETBACK ALONG THE FRONT YARD, AND ALLOW CONSTRUCTION THAT RANGES FROM ZERO FEET TO 3.5 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE THE DECK CANOPY AND GAZEBO, AND A SIDE SETBACK VARIANCE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND REQUIRED 10 FEET TO FOLLOW THE FIVE FOOT SETBACK THAT EXISTS FOR THE BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GAZEBO ON THE NORTH SIDE. STAFF SUPPORTS BOTH VARIANCES DUE TO THE RETENTION OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT ANY SORT OF ADDITION ONTO THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE MORE IMPOSING, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE CODE-COMPLIANT. SO FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE RECOMMENDING IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, INCLUDING THE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS WITHOUT TURN OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR, UM, PRESENTATION. I, IF YOU WILL, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BOARD, BOARD QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANYBODY? OKAY, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. BEN STIGLER, CONCORD CREST 1450 BRICK AVENUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE ARE SEEKING AN AFTER THE FACT, COA AND VARIANCE FOR WOOD DECK TRELLIS AND IMPROVEMENTS MADE AT THE PROPERTY, WHICH ARE MADE TO REPLACE AN OLD GAZEBO AND PROVIDE COVER FROM THE ELEMENTS. THIS PROPERTY HAS AN INCREDIBLE HISTORY TO WHICH THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PRESERVING AND PROGRESSING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE OWNER FOR OVER 40 YEARS IN MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT DR. BIJI. TO GIVE A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY ABOUT THE HOTEL, I LIKE TO PRESENT THE HOTEL AS MY TWO ENDS. WE WERE BORN TOGETHER SO THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE 84 VERY QUICKLY. UM, I PURCHASED IT WHEN I FIRST CAME TO MIAMI BEACH, UH, AS A PHYSICIAN. FIRST I CAME AS A NURSE, AND THEN I CAME BACK IN 1982 AS A PHYSICIAN AND I MET MOLLY STEIN, THE OWNER OF WHO BUILT THE HOTEL AND ALSO THE ALBION HOTEL. UM, I WAS COMPLETELY BROKE OUTTA MEDICAL SCHOOL AND, BUT I WANTED TO BE PART OF MIAMI BEACH FOR SEVERAL REASONS, AND SHE FINANCE ME AND SHE WAS AN INCREDIBLE HELPER. UH, NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE PLACE WAS BOARDED UP. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE SEE SO MANY MODERN BUILDINGS AND THERE IS NOT NOTHING MODERN ABOUT THE STORY. UM, I I, IT WAS BOARDED UP, IT WAS ABANDONED. SO THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS TAKE THE BOARDS OUT OF THE WINDOWS AND JUST KEEP IT GOING IN THE MOST, IN INEXPENSIVE WAY. SO ELDERLY PEOPLE FROM CHICAGO SPEND THE WINTERS THERE. AND IT BECAME THE TIME OF THE MARIELLE'S. [01:55:01] IT WAS RATHER DANGEROUS. SO WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT THEM AS MUCH AS WE COULD BECAUSE WE WERE STEALING EVERYTHING THAT MOVED OR DIDN'T MOVE. SO I LIVED ALL THESE PERIODS. I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO SURVIVE MANY EPISODES OF MIAMI BEACH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MADE A VIDEO OF ALL THESE STORIES THAT WE HAD THROUGH TIME THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOMEDAY AND A HISTORICAL, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY OTHER NEW BUILDINGS COMING. THE HISTORICAL IS PASSING TO A SIDE, AND I'M VERY HONORED TO SAY MR. MOONEY HELPED US A LOT. AND WE ARE PART OF THE TOUR OF THE ART DECO BECAUSE WE TRY TO KEEP IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR WHOEVER DOESN'T KNOW. THIS WAS THE HOME OF THE CADETS. THAT'S WHY THE NAME OF THE CADETS IN 1941, WHEN THE WAR STARTED, IT WAS BUILT TO BE DELUCE HOTEL. AND SUDDENLY THE, THE, THE WAR BREAKS. SO THE AIR FORCE CENTER CADETS AND THEIR CADETS STAYED THERE UNTIL 1949. THIS IS KIND OF THE SIDE STORY. UM, I WAS THE MOST, THE LONGER HOLDER OF THIS PROPERTY, AND NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE PROPERTY NEEDED A LOT OF HELP. AND WE GOT THE HELP THAT THE BUILDING NEEDED WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY IN DIFFERENT PERIODS, AT DIFFERENT TIMES BECAUSE IN, IN, UH, AFTER NINE 11, WE DECIDED TO DO A, A SERIOUS RESTRUCTURAL. WE, WHICH WAS FULLY PERMITTED FOR EVERYTHING. AND, UH, UH, USE OF HELPED US A LOT. SO WE, WE CAME TO, WE, UH, WE ARE TODAY STRUCTURALLY INSIDE IN THE OUTSIDE. UM, WE WERE VERY INVADED BY STREET DWELLERS AND PROGRESSIVELY WE CLOSE AND WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE EXTRA SPACE AND WE CLOSED IT. UM, MOSTLY WAS DURING THE PANDIA AND NOW RESPECT. RESPECTFULLY AND RETROSPECTIVELY, WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION, FORGIVENESS, ACCEPTANCE IN INVITATION, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE JAZZ, UH, ON FRIDAY NIGHTS. AND, UH, BEN WILL DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE'S AN ENGINEER. UM, AND THAT'S MY STORY. UH, SO THE EXISTING, UH, THE GAZEBO THAT IS THERE NOW WAS BUILT TO REPLACE AN EXISTING GAZEBO, UM, THAT STARTED AS AN ICE CREAM PARLOR MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. AND, UH, AS I STATED EARLIER, THE TRELLIS WAS BUILT TO RECOVER FROM THE ELEMENTS. UM, I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE PHOTOS, YOU'VE SEEN THE HISTORIC NATURE OF IT. YOU'VE SEEN HOW, UH, THE ORIGINAL FLOORS IN THE HOTEL ARE STILL THERE. UM, THE HOTELS KEPT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING INTACT OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR OUTSIDE SECTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, BUT WAS DONE WITH THE INTENT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE, UM, AND COVER THE ELEMENTS. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY, PERFECT. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, SO HOW LONG AGO WAS THE GAZEBO REBUILT? THE CURRENT GAZEBO WAS REBUILT IN 2021. AND WHY NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE FORGIVENESS AND THE APPROVAL. THIS STEMS FROM A VIOLATION. OH, OKAY. SO I JUST, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO US AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SINCE IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, IT'S PART OF THE COLLINS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'VE BEEN TO THIS LOVELY LITTLE AREA AND YOU GO, YOU GO IN THERE, YOU ALMOST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WASN'T PERMITTED, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT CERTAINLY, UM, IS WELL USED BY, UM, THE HOTEL GUESTS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANNA HAVE A LITTLE TRIP TO THE PAST. AND, AND WITH ALL THE VEGETATION AND THE LANDSCAPING, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL THERE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ADD SOMETHING THAT BECAME THE HOME OF THE MIAMI. THANKS TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. IT CAME TO THE HOME OF THE INTERNATIONAL PIANO FESTIVAL EVERY YEAR FROM THE 5TH OF JANUARY TO THE 12TH, THE HOTEL BECOMES A MUSIC ACADEMY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND YOU'RE INVITED TO COME THIS, UH, CONCERTS EVERY NIGHT. I JUST SINCERELY SAY THAT, UM, MIAMI BEACH HAS SUFFERED ME THE BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE, UM, [02:00:01] BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE MY CAREER BEGAN, UH, IS THE DOCTOR, WHICH I STILL WORK, UH, AT EIGHT AGE, ALMOST 84. AND, BUT I NEED TO RECOGNIZE BEN, THAT HELPED ME AND ESSENTIALLY MY MANAGER WHO IS THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BRAIN. UM, AND WE HAVE A VERY HAPPY EXISTENCE, LIKE, AND APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS BECAUSE WE TRY TO BE VERY, BRING THE PAST TO LIFE WITH CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ETIQUETTE AND RESPECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FROM THE BOARD? MITCH? NO QUESTION. OKAY. UM, ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? RANDY RAY? NO MORE DISCLOSURES. I MET WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED IN CHAMBERS. YEAH, PLEASE. IT'S YOUR PHONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . OKAY. ALMOST STILL THE PHONE. UH, ROGER GOLDBLATT ACTUALLY 1750 JAMES AVENUE. I'M JUST TALKING AS, AS ROGER. UH, THE CADET HOTEL IS SUCH A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SMALL HOTELS KEEPING EXACTLY THEIR HERITAGE. THEY'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR. THEY'RE OUTSIDE AREA YET. YES, THERE'S MUSIC SOMETIMES AND I'M LIKE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINER ON THE STREET PROBABLY. AND I, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WELL DONE. IT REALLY IS. AND UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN VERY GRATIFYING. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THREATENING. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. AND NO ONE ON ZOOM. THERE'S NOBODY ON ZOOM WITH THEIR HAND RAISED? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, ANY BOARD COMMENT? COMMENT? UM, SO I, I, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO, WE SHOULD DO TWO MO MY COMMENT, , WE SHOULD DO TWO MOTIONS. ONE FOR THE DESIGN AND ONE FOR THE VARIANCES. I WAS GONNA MAKE A COMMENT, BUT OKAY, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS, MITCH? NO. OKAY. I, I JUST WANNA SAY I, I DID GO TO VISIT THIS HOTEL BECAUSE I HAD NOT BEEN THERE. UM, AND, AND I, I, I WILL ECHO THE SENTIMENTS. I MEAN, JUST THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED, THE BUILDING, THE INTERIOR, THE ORIGINAL TERRAZZO, UM, AND, AND THIS SPACE OUTSIDE IS LOVELY. UM, I WISH THAT IT WOULD'VE COME BEFORE US INITIALLY TO GET THE PROPER APPROVALS IN ADVANCE. UM, BUT SETTING THAT ASIDE, UM, IT IS A REALLY LOVELY PLACE. UH, YEAH, SO I'VE BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE CADE A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I, FOR THE FIRST TIME I WENT TO THE RESTAURANT, THE FRENCH RESTAURANT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S STILL FRENCH, BUT AT THAT POINT IT WAS, AND I WAS SO POSITIVE, IMPRESSED WITH THE ABILITY THAT SHE WAS THE OWNER HAD TO KEEP THE PROPERTY AT TO A REGIONAL, UM, SPLENDOR, SHALL I SAY. AND I WAS SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT PROBABLY THIS GAZEBO DOES NOT MEET COLD CURRENT, BUT MAYBE AT SOME TIME IN THE PAST IT DIDN'T. I DON'T THINK IT'S CAUSING ANY DAMAGE TO THE NEIGHBORING AND WHAT IT BRINGS TO THE SERIES INVARIABLE. SO YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, RAY, I TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE AND APPROVAL OF THE APPEAR. OH, IT HAS TO BE SEPARATE. SEPARATE. I'LL SECOND SEPARATE. WE JUST SEE WE'RE STARTING WITH, SHOULD WE START WITH CERTIFICATE? APPROPRIATENESS? YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD DO THE C OF A. SO I'LL START WITH C OF A, THE APPROPRIATENESS. OKAY. AND MR. NOVIK, I SECONDED THE MOTION. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE, THE C OF A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX TO ZERO AND WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCES. I'LL SECOND THAT AS WELL. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCES? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY, ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES SIX TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THE FOUNTAIN BILL, I SUGGEST WE TAKE A, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE FOUNTAIN BILL. APPLICATION PASSED. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. OKAY, FOR EVERYONE IN CHAMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AGAIN. SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS. WE ARE BACK ONLINE, I BELIEVE. [02:05:03] DO YOU WANNA CALL UP [6. HPB25-0669, 4441 Collins Avenue – Fontainebleau Hotel.] THE NEXT ITEM? YES. OUR NEXT APPLICATION AND FINAL APPLICATION FOR THE DATE IS, UM, HPB 25 DASH 0 6 6 9. THIS IS 44 41 COLLINS AVENUE, THE FOUNTAIN BLUE HOTEL. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REAR YARD, IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW REAR REAR YARD AMENITIES FOR THE HOTEL, INCLUDING WATER SLIDES, POOLS, RESTROOMS, AND CABANAS. THE APPLICANT'S ALSO REQUESTING VARIANCES FROM THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR SHADE STRUCTURES, A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM THE EROSION CONTROL LINE, VARIANCES FROM THE WALKWAY MATERIAL AND MAXIMUM WALKWAY WIDTH REQUIREMENTS. VARIANCES FROM THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN, IN BOTH THE DUNE PRESERVATION AND OCEANFRONT OVERLAY DISTRICTS. A VARIANCE FROM THE SIDE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IN THE OCEANFRONT OVERLAY, A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM THE BULKHEAD LINE, A VARIANCE FROM THE VIEW QUARTER REQUIREMENTS IN THE OVERLAY, A VARIANCE FROM THE REAR PEDESTAL SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND VARIANCES FROM THE SIDE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND SOME OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. NOW, STAFF HAS INDICATED SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THE VARIANCES, RECOMMENDED MODIFICATIONS FOR OTHERS, DENIAL OF ONE VARIANCE AND ADDITIONAL REVIEW OF SOME OF THE MORE EXTREME VARIANCES. AT THIS POINT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD HEAR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, PROVIDE THEIR OWN COMMENTS, AND AT THIS POINT, RECOMMEND A CONTINUANCE OF THE APPLICATION TO THE JANUARY 13TH, 2006, 2026. MEETING. WITH THAT IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND MADAM CHAIR BEFORE THE APPLICANT, UH, BEGINS, I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANYONE WHO IS NOT SWEARING IN THIS MORNING. I SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, UH, NEW INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE JOINED US FOR TODAY'S MEETING. COULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS IF YOU INTEND TO TESTIFY TODAY? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, GO AHEAD. MORNING, MADAM VICE-CHAIR, BUT CHAIR TODAY AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, MICKEY MARRERO HERE FROM THE LAW FIRM BERK, HOW DALE FERNANDEZ. LARKIN TAPS AT 200 SOUTH PACA BOULEVARD WITH ME TODAY AND MY COLLEAGUES JEFF BERKOW AND BEN SHERRY, UH, OUR ARCHITECTS, SHAIM, IGA AND DE MONTAG FROM KENZO ARCHITECTS, AS WELL AS SEVERAL FOLKS FROM THE FOUND BLUE, UH, TEAM. WE WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU AS, AS MICHAEL PROVIDED THE, UH, RE-IMAGINING OF THE FOUNTAIN BLUES REAR YARD, INCLUDING A HOST OF NEW AMENITIES AND CHANGES. IF WE CAN GET OUR PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE RENDERING OF THE PROPOSAL AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN A SECOND. BEFORE I'D LIKE TO GO INTO, IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'D LIKE TO, BUT IF YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THIS. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GO INTO JUST SOME OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT GOD IS HERE AS I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE THAN, WELL, UH, THE FOUND BLUE IS, IS ONE OF THE, IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT HISTORICAL PROPERTY IN MIAMI BEACH. CERTAINLY ONE OF THE LARGEST, NOT THE LARGEST. UM, AND IF YOU CAN SEE, HERE'S KIND OF AN OVERALL PLAN OF WHAT THE RESORT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. IT STARTED OFF, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ONE MAIN BUILDING AND HAS GROWN OVER THE YEARS WITH TWO CONDOMINIUM TOWERS, TWO HOTEL BUILDINGS, AND A HOST OF OTHER AMENITIES, RESTAURANTS AND COMPONENTS THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH QUICKLY HERE. SO HERE'S KIND OF AN OVERALL VERY, VERY BIG, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL BREAKUP OF THE PROPERTY. YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE REAR YARD, YOU HAVE THE BOAT, BOW TIE, POOL AND ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS. THAT'S THE MAIN CENTER. LAKO IS VERY POPULAR RESTAURANT IN THE REAR THAT EXISTS TODAY. OUR KIDS ZONE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY THE AREA YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE FOCAL POINT OF, OF WHAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED TODAY, THE SLIDES. BUT THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF OTHER AMENITIES AND THE ARCADIA AREA, WHICH IS SORT OF A LITTLE ENTERTAINMENT ZONE GOING QUICKLY. AND, AND I'LL ASK YOU TO GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY. YOU CAN SEE THIS, THE, THE HOTEL IS A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S, IT'S A HOTEL WITH OVER A THOUSAND ROOMS, BUT IT'S ALSO ALL SORTS OF INTERIOR. THERE'S A SPA, THERE'S MULTIPLE VERY POPULAR RESTAURANTS. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF BALLROOMS. AND, AND WE CONTINUE OVER THE YEARS TO REIMAGINE WHAT GOES ON IN THE PROPERTY, TO KEEP IT VIBRANT, TO KEEP IT STRONG AND REALLY CONTINUE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL AND, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT PROPERTY IN MIAMI BEACH. THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR STATURE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REIMAGINED, HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED, AND HAVE FAILED IN SOME WAYS. AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE. SO THAT IF WE CAN GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE, AND AGAIN, JUST HERE'S BRIEFLY SOME OF OUR, AND WHERE WE GET TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET TO OUR REQUESTS, SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS. AND BECAUSE THE FOUND BLUE IS REALLY SO UNIQUE IN THAT IT IS A LARGE RESORT. IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. OUR COMPETITORS ARE NOT SMALL HOTELS IN MIAMI BEACH. THERE'S A PLACE FOR THOSE AS WELL. OUR COMPETITORS ARE REALLY REGIONAL, UH, DESTINATIONS FOR FAMILIES, FOR TOURISTS. THAT INCLUDES VERY POPULAR ATLANTIS IN IN THE BAHAMAS, BAHAMA IN THE BAHAMAS. AND THESE TYPE OF HOTELS, AND EVEN CRUISES NOW THAT ARE ATTRACTING FAMILIES IN A VERY COMPETITIVE WAY, ARE BRINGING AMENITIES BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY SEEN IN, IN, IN [02:10:01] THE PAST. AND WE NEED TO KEEP IN LINE WITH THAT. AND IT'S CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS AND THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE HOTEL TO CONTINUE TO BRING IN NEW ELEMENTS, EXCITING ELEMENTS TO BRING FAMILIES AND TO BRING GUESTS BACK AND KEEP COMING TO THE HOTEL. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH A HISTORY OF OUR REAR YARD. 'CAUSE YOU'LL SEE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT BEEN STATIC. UM, HERE'S THE 1960S AND SEVENTIES WHEN, UH, AFTER THE HOTEL WAS BUILT, WE HAD A LINE OF CABANAS ALONG THE BEACH. THOSE ARE TWO STORY CABANAS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE REINTRODUCING WITH OUR APPLICATION TODAY. JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT, UM, POOLS, AGAIN, THE MULTILEVEL CABANA IS ANOTHER POOL THAT LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT, BUT, BUT THERE'S A HISTORY FOR WHAT, FOR A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. THERE WAS AN ICE SKATING RINK AT ONE POINT. I MEAN, REALLY AN ICONIC PROPERTY, AS EVERYONE KNOWS IN, IN MOVIES AND MEDIA. UH, AND IT'S, IT'S IN IT'S HEYDAY. BACK IN THE SIXTIES AND THE EIGHTIES, UH, THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER RE-IMAGINING. WE HAD, UH, THEMATIC AND THEATRICAL POOL ELEMENTS. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT IN SOME STUFF FOR THE SLIDE SLIDE FOR CHILDREN, A LAZY RIVER. YOU CAN SEE A, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SCARFACE, THERE WAS OUR PURPLE OCTOPUS KID ZONE. THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SPLASH PAD SLIDES, THEN TWO THOUSANDS HERE. WE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT I MOST RECALL THE RE-IMAGINING WHEN OUR, WHEN THE SFA FAMILY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, UH, REIMAGINED THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPONENTS, BROUGHT THE REAR TO A MORE MODERN SENSE AND REALLY MADE IT POPULAR AGAIN. AND PEOPLE STARTED COMING TO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, AND IT BECAME A FEATURE PLACE. WE NOW HAVE FOUNTAIN BLUE LIVE, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, EVENTS FOR, FOR FOLKS. AND OF COURSE, LIV, WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR NIGHTLIFE DESTINATION. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, OVER THE YEARS, THE FOUNTAIN BLUE HAS EVOLVED, AND IT'S, WHEN IT'S BEEN, WHEN AS, AS PROPERTIES THE TOURISM INDUSTRY BECOME DATED, LESS POPULAR, YOU HAVE TO INJECT SOME NEW EXCITEMENT TO THEM TO BRING PEOPLE BACK. WE'VE BEEN TALKING AS A TEAM ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THIS ITERATION FOR, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. AND I, I, I'LL, I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU, THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD WITH STAFF WAS FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OF A NIGHTLIFE VENUE. IN THIS SAME LOCATION WHERE THE SLIDES ARE PROPOSED TODAY, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A DAY CLUB, SOMETHING THAT WOULD ATTRACT THAT TYPE OF, OF, OF CUSTOMER IN RETROSPECT. AND LOOKING, SPEAKING TO OUR TEAM, WE WANTED TO GO IN A MORE FAMILY ORIENTED DIRECTION AND ATTRACT THAT KIND OF CLIENTELE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO WE ASKED OUR TEAM TO GO AND DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD RESPECT THE ARCHITECTURE AND STYLE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY, BUT ALSO BRING IN AN EXCITING NEW ELEMENT TO, TO BRING FAMILIES HERE. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE SHAIM TO COME UP AND KIND OF GO THROUGH HIS INSPIRATION AND HIS DESIGN FOR THE, UH, FOR THE REAR, INCLUDING THE SLIDES. AND I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH SOME DISCUSSION ON THE VARIANCES. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD MORNING. BOARD MEMBERS, UH, SHAIM FROM GENSLER ARCHITECTS. SO, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED, THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE A FAMILY FOCUSED TRANSFORMATION OF THE REAR YARD. AND, UH, BEFORE LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTS THAT WE WERE DESIGNING, WE UNDERSTOOD THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY OF MORRIS LAPIDUS DESIGN PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT. SO REALLY TRYING TO, TO GET INSPIRATION FROM SOME OF THE MOVES, UH, THAT MORRIS LAPIDUS WAS KNOWN FOR. UM, TYPICALLY IT'S A LOT OF SWEEPING HORIZONTALS, SOFT CURVES, PATTERNS AND ARCHES, AND A LOT OF PLAYFULNESS IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN. WE REALLY TRIED TO PICK UP ON SOME OF THOSE IDEAS. AND THEN LOOKING EVEN INTO THE INTERIORS, HOW THE INTERIOR IS ACTUALLY INTEGRATING ART AND ARCHITECTURE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CHANDELIERS, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS, HOW THEY'RE CASCADING DOWN AS THESE TUBES, UH, LOOKING AT THE COLOR PALETTES OF THE BLUE AND WHITE, REALLY TRYING TO, TO GET INSPIRATION FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN THE REAR YARD. UM, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE ELEVATED MATERIALS THAT ARE USED AND THE FINISHES THROUGHOUT, UH, THE PROPERTY AS OF THE MOMENT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, FOUNTAIN BLUE TAKES GREAT CARE AND IS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE FABRICS ARE PICKED CORRECTLY AND SPECED APPROPRIATELY SO THAT THEY DON'T GET FADED IN THE SUN. AND, UH, TORN WHEN PEOPLE ARE DANCING ON TOP OF THE CHAIRS AND, AND ELEMENTS. SO AGAIN, THE ELEVATED FINISHES ARE PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, AND REALLY THE IDEA IS THAT WE WERE INSPIRED BY THE PAST, UH, TO REINVENT THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE VIEWS THAT SHOWS THIS FAMILY FOCUSED, UH, TRANSFORMATION OF THAT REAR YARD. UH, YOU CAN NOTICE THE ELEMENTS OF THE DOUBLE HEIGHT CABANAS THAT ARE REINTRODUCED, UH, PICKING UP ON THE ARCS THAT USED TO EXIST IN THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES IN THAT TRANSFORMATION THAT YOU SAW EARLIER ON, UH, IN THIS, UH, IMAGE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE STAIR ACCESS TO THE SLIDES. AGAIN, THE MAIN IDEA BEHIND THAT [02:15:01] WAS THE KIND OF WHIMSICAL, PLAYFUL APPROACH THAT, UH, MORRIS NAPPI TOOK. IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A BOXY STAIRCASE. YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE SURE THAT IT BECAME AN ICONIC ELEMENT WITHIN THE PROPERTY. UH, PICKING UP ON THE CUES OF THE SOFTNESS OF THE CURVES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DESIGN ELEMENT IS ACTUALLY PICKING UP ON THE IDEA OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE WAVES AS WELL. THIS IS MORE FOCUSED ON THE, UH, 1960S CABANA'S REINTERPRETATION. SO AGAIN, ANOTHER DOUBLE HEIGHT, UH, CABANA THAT'S BEING INTRODUCED, UH, INTO THE PROPERTY. AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ALSO PICKING UP ON THE COLOR PALETTE THAT'S PREVALENT AT FOUNTAIN BLUE HISTORICALLY. AGAIN, THE BLUE AND THE WHITE. THIS AGAIN, IS SHOWING THE BOW TIE POOL. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT'S BECOMING ACTIVATED NOW BY THIS DOUBLE HEIGHT CABANA. UH, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE COMING UP IS THAT, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON THIS FAMILY ORIENTED TRANSFORMATION, UNDERNEATH SOME OF THESE CABANAS ARE F AND B GELATO, RETAIL, AND EVEN A NURSING STATION FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN IMAGE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE UNDERNEATH. SO AGAIN, JUST DIVERSE GUEST EXPERIENCES. IT'S INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT JUST THE CABANA, IT'S LOOKING UNDERNEATH THE CABANAS AS WELL, UH, FOR SOME OF THAT ACTIVATION. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT CARE, UH, IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND LUSHNESS, SO THAT AS YOU'RE AT THAT GROUND FLOOR LEVEL, YOU'RE TRULY, UH, WITHIN A LANDSCAPED ENVIRONMENT. AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE DOUBLE HEIGHT COMMANDERS, A LOT OF THESE PLACES ARE GONNA BE SHADED, WHICH IS A GOOD THING IN THE SUN. AGAIN, THE INTEGRATION OF ART, UH, WITHIN THE ENTIRE REAR YARD WITH SOMETHING WE TOOK GREAT CARE OF. SO YOU CAN SEE THE IDEA OF ADDING ELEMENTS OF ART, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, UH, INTEGRATING IT UNDERNEATH SOME OF THE CABANAS WHERE WE HAVE THE GELATO AND F AND B OFFERINGS. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT ACCESS TEAR THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. AGAIN, IT'S ACTUALLY REMINISCENT OF THE CHANDELIERS THAT YOU SAW IN THE INTERIOR. HOW MUCH MORE TIME? WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FOR OUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW THAT'S, UH, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ART ELEMENTS AND, UH, SOME OF THE MEMORIAL OR MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE GONNA BE HAD AT THE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, JUST, UH, FOCUSING ON THE LUSHNESS THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, IN THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN. SO YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF TROPICAL FOLIAGE THAT WE'RE ADDING IN THAT REAR YARD. UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE F AND B OFFERINGS. AND THIS ONE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE DETAIL, UH, THAT WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO DESIGN THE STAIR ACCESS. AGAIN, THE IDEA OF THE WHITE AND THE BLUE IS INTERPRETED IN THERE AS WELL. AND AGAIN, JUST A FINAL IMAGE THAT SHOWS THE ICE CREAM STANDS, THE HOT DOG STANDS, GELATO, AND ALL THE FRIENDLY, UH, FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVATIONS THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR HERE. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE A LOT OF THE SOFT CURVES, UH, THAT WE FOUND ON THE ORIGINAL MORRIS LAPIDUS DESIGN. REINTERPRETED HERE AGAINST SOME OF THE ACTIVATED MOMENTS FOR KIDS. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAMILY ORIENTED. AND SO THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK. AGAIN, THE LUSHNESS THAT'S GOING TO BE AROUND, UH, IT'S GOING TO HIDE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND IT. YOU'RE GONNA FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY A LUSH LANDSCAPE. UH, WHAT THIS SLIDE REALLY SHOWS IS ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE STAIR ACCESS IS REALLY IN THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED PORTION OF THE PROJECT. IF YOU WALK THAT AREA RIGHT NOW, THERE'S MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND RESTROOMS THERE. IT'S ALSO MOVED TO A LOCATION WHERE YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING ANY OF THE VIEWS, UH, FROM THE HOTEL ITSELF. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN IS SHOWING THE VIEW SHED UNOBSTRUCTED VIEWS TOWARDS THE WATER. THE BLUE OVAL, WHICH IS THE SHAPE OF THAT STAIR ACCESS, IS LOCATED AND TUCKED AWAY IN THE MOST HIDDEN SPOT ON THE SITE LOCATION OF THE STAIRS. UH, THAT SHOWS THE SETBACKS AND THE VISUAL IMPACT FROM THE BOARDWALK. THE GUEST POOL SCAPE AROUND THE BOOT, THE BOW TIE POOL, WHICH IS KIND OF REINTERPRETED HERE. AND AGAIN, UH, BEST IN CLASS, UH, FINISHES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. AND I'LL HAND IT OVER. THANK YOU, SHAMI. UH, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A LOT GOING ON AND IT REALLY IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT ATTEMPT TO REIMAGINE THIS REAR YARD WITH MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, ELEMENTS, ART INSTALLATIONS, AND OF COURSE, THE SLIDES. I'D LIKE TO GET INTO BRIEFLY THE VARIANCES. UH, WHICH AS, AS I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN OVER THE YEARS, WHEN YOU HAVE PROJECTS ON THIS PART OF THE EASTERN PART OF MIAMI BEACH, UH, AND WE DEAL WITH THE DUNE OVERLAY AND THE OCEAN FRONT OVERLAY, THERE'S OFTEN VARIANCES. AND, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADDITION WHERE THERE WERE I THINK TWICE AS MANY VARIANCES TO ACTIVATE THAT REAR YARD. UM, [02:20:01] SO HERE, THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS ON THE FUR FURTHEST EAST, FRANKLY, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THESE NEW PROPOSALS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT. WHILE WE'RE IMPROVING SOME OF THE PLACES THESE ARE, THERE'S DECKING, THERE'S MATERIALS THERE THAT ARE ALREADY BEYOND THE ALLOWED, THE ALLOWED AMOUNT, THE ALLOWED PERCENTAGES. BUT WE'RE PUTTING THOSE IN AND LEGALIZING THEM NOW. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS BY IMPROVING THEM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO NOW COMPLY WITH CODE. THE ONES THAT RELATE TO THE LOCATION OF THE SLIDES AND THE SETBACK. UH, I THINK IT'S VARIANCE NUMBER FIVE THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED AGAINST. WE TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THAT AFTER WE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE TO REMOVE THAT VARIANCE. I MENTIONED IT TO MICHAEL YESTERDAY. WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK TO OUR DESIGNER AND BRING THE SLIDES IN FURTHER FROM THE SOUTH SIDE AND ELIMINATE THAT VARIANCE. AND THEN THAT HAS THE IMPACT OF ELIMINATING, POSSIBLY ELIMINATING, BUT AT LEAST SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING A COUPLE OF THE OTHER VARIANCES, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF SIDE YARDS AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UM, WE ARE GONNA WORK WITH STAFF, UH, ON THE, UH, THE VARIANCES THAT THEY RECOMMENDED, A CONTINUANCE ON THE ONES ON THE FURTHEST EAST TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER SHOW ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE PROVIDED ON THE PROPERTY. WE'VE DONE THAT ANALYSIS, UH, BUT IT'S JUST TO PROVIDE THAT THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL PROPERTY, MASSIVE SIZE. AND THERE'S OPEN SPACE AND LUSH, LUSH LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT. SO IN THIS SMALL LITTLE AREA, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CABANAS THERE, WE'VE DONE IT IN A WAY THAT COMPLIES WITH THE MATERIALS AND THE USES PERMITTED BY THE CODE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT AREA THAN IN OTHER AREAS. BUT OVERALL, THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 90% ON, ON THE SITE. UH, WANNA MAKE, MAKE HAD A COUPLE POINTS I'VE HEARD IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE OBJECTIONS. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IT'S A A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED PLUS FEET CONCRETE STRUCTURE. THE ONLY CONCRETE ELEMENTS ARE THE SLABS. THE TUBING THAT YOU SEE IS CLEAR ALUMINUM TUBINGS, WHICH ARE MEANT TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW THE, UH, ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO SEE THROUGH AND PROVIDE MORE OF AN OPENNESS TO THAT STRUCTURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO MEET THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS TO HOLD THE WEIGHT, BUT IT'S, IT'S DOING IN A WAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS LEAST AS AREA AND OPEN AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND WE TRY TO PLACE THIS AT THE LOCATION OF THE SITE. CURRENTLY THE KID ZONE, THERE'S A LITTLE KID'S POOL THERE WITH A SLIDE AND, AND REALLY UNDERUTILIZED. THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING. SO IT MINIMIZES THE IMPACT ON ANY OF THE CONTRIBUTING OR THE HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF THE PROPERTY. AND THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY INTENTIONAL. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER 'EM. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WANNA SPEAK, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO BOARD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? RAY? JUST, UH, ON THE, UH, THE TOWER FOR THE SLIDES. UM, IS THERE ONLY STAIRS? THERE'S NO ELEVATOR, THERE'S NO, THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S AN ELEVATOR. HM? THERE IS AN ELEVATOR. YES. THERE IS NO. OKAY. AADA A USUALLY DON'T HAVE ELEVATOR. MICKEY, IN YOUR LETTER TO STAFF, HE INDICATED THIS WOULD BE FOR A GUEST ONLY. UH, THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? YEAH. THIS IS THE, THE USE IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OBVIOUSLY THIS, A RECREATIONAL AMENITY IN THE ARM THREE DISTRICT CAN ONLY EXIST AS AN ACCESSORY TO WHETHER IT'S AN APARTMENT OR A HOTEL, TO AN ACCESSORY TO A PRIMARY USE. SO AN INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, WA I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S AN INDEPENDENT WATERPARK WITH SEPARATE TICKETS, WILL NOT BE SELLING SEPARATE TICKETS FOR THIS. YOU STILL HAVE TO BE A HOTEL GUEST. LIKE NOTHING IN THE HOTEL'S OPERATION IS CHANGING. JUST LIKE YOU CAN BE A GUEST TODAY AND ENJOY THOSE AMENITIES, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO DO SO. THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT AMENITY AVAILABLE TO THOSE THAT ARE THERE. EXPERIENCE THE HOTEL. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE APPLICANT HAS A WATER PARK OR LEASES A WATER PARK IN AVENTURA. YES. IS THIS, IS THIS, I WILL TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCES. AND FRANKLY IT WAS ABOUT A DECADE AGO THAT I'VE ALSO WORKED ON THOSE APPROVALS. THE TITLE COVE WATER PARK IS A BUDDING THE COUNTRY CLUB HOTEL THERE AT THE, AT THE JW MARRIOTT THERE. BUT IT IS ZONED ON RECREATIONAL LAND THAT, THAT WAS AN AS OF RIGHT TWO CODE PROJECT THAT EVEN IF IT WASN'T ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL, COULD EXIST INDEPENDENT BECAUSE IT IS ON THE SAME ZONING AS THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH EXPLICITLY ALLOWS WATER AMENITIES, WATERPARK WATER SLIDES. SO THAT WAS DONE AS OF RIGHT. IT COULD BE AN INDEPENDENT, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL, BUT IT'S THE SAME ZONING AS A GOLF COURSE. VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THIS. OKAY. SO IS THAT THE REASON A TRAFFIC STUDY WASN'T PROVIDED? YEAH. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE INCREASED CAPACITY, INCREASED ROOMS AND LIKE TRY TO MAKE THIS A SEPARATE USE FOR MORE PEOPLE COMING IN, CHANGING MORE FURTHER INTENSIFYING WHAT'S THERE TODAY, IT WOULD'VE HAD TO GO TO PLANNING BOARD, POSSIBLY A CODE AMENDMENT. YEAH. HERE WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE AMENITIES. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY CAPACITY TO THE SITE. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY ROOMS. SO A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD'VE LOOKED AT THE HOTEL HAS THESE AMENITIES, WE'RE CHANGING THEM, BUT IT, THERE'S NO INCREASED CAPACITY. AND I THINK, I, I DON'T PUT WORDS IN THIS MOUTH, MIKE WOULD AGREE. HAD WE PROPOSED AN INCREASED CAPACITY, YES THE CITY WOULD'VE [02:25:01] REQUIRED A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT HERE WE'RE NOT. OKAY. I GOT IT. AND FINALLY, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? SO YEAH, INITIALLY WE, OKAY. IF WE WILL HAVE A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE CAN JUST KEEP IT LIMITED TO THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, THE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, AND THEN ABSOLUTELY. WE WANNA HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, SO AGAIN, THIS IS CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING ON OUR SITE, AND IT'S NOT INCREASING CAPACITY, IT'S NOT INCREASING TRAFFIC. WE BELIEVE, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, THE SOHO HOUSE, THE EDEN ROCK. THOSE ARE, THEY'RE NOT OBJECTING. ALSO, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONDOMINIUM OWNERSHIP IN THE, ON THE FOUNTAIN BLUE PROPERTY. 'CAUSE THEY WILL, WHICH, WHICH PROPERTY? THE FOUND BLUE. THERE'S THE CONDOMINIUMS. OH, YES, YES. NEAR THIS SLIDE, UH, ELEMENT. AND WHILE I WILL TELL YOU NOT ALL OF THOSE FOLKS, UH, IN THE CONDOMINIUMS ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE. THERE IS A MIX OF SUPPORT AND, YOU KNOW, NOT SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM THE CONDOS THAT, AND WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT LETTERS AS WELL. BUT THE GREATER, SINCE, SINCE WE'RE NOT ADDING CAPACITY AND THERE'S NO NIE, WE, WE REALLY DIDN'T GO OUT TO THE ENTIRE AREA. I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONCERNS HERE TODAY AND, AND WE'VE TRIED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS AND WE'LL BE, CONTINUE TO DO SO. BUT, BUT YEAH, THE, THE FOLKS MOST IMMEDIATELY AFFECTED. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO AND HAD CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU KEEP SAYING YOU'RE NOT ADDING CAPACITY. DIDN'T YOU BUILD A WHOLE, AREN'T YOU BUILDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF CABANAS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS, THAT YOU'D BE SELLING DAY PASSES TO HOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE THERE? AND HOW MANY DAY PASSES WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE THOUSAND ROOMS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FLUCTUATES ON CAPACITY. THE HOTEL DOES NOT WITH THE RESORT PASS.COM IS A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN RENT A CABANA, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT STAYING AS AN OVERNIGHT GUEST. AS YOU KNOW, EVERY HOTEL ON MIAMI BEACH. YEAH. EVERY HOTEL ON MIAMI BEACH HAS THAT. WHETHER IT'S FAINA, EDEN ROCK, THE ADDITION, YOU CAN RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE ADDING HOW MANY, WELL WE'LL JUST BRING IT BACK TO, WAS ALWAYS THERE. HOW MANY WERE THERE ORIGINALLY? THERE'S A SET OCCUPANCY, SO WE CAN'T DO MORE. YEAH, WE'RE, SO THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS AND IT'S, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR OPERATIONS TEAM, IT'S NOT A SET NUMBER EVERY DAY. IT FLUCTUATES ON CAPACITY. SO IF IT'S A WEEKEND THAT THE HOTEL IS CLOSE TO BOOKED, THEY WOULDN'T, THEY CAN TURN THAT OFF. IF IT'S A SUMMER MONTH WHERE THE HOTEL'S AT LOW CAPACITY, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN SEASON. THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF SELLING THESE CABANAS AND DAY BEDS THROUGH THE RESORT PASS.COM. LIKE OTHER HOTELS, NOTHING IS CHANGING FOR THE WAY WE OPERATE. WE'RE NOT ADDING MORE CAPACITY TO THOSE THINGS. WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE AMOUNT THAT WE, THAT WE PROVIDE, LIKE EVERY OTHER HOTEL. NOT JUST IN MIAMI BEACH, BUT THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE COUNTRY. RESORT PASS.COM IS A WEBSITE THAT ALLOWS GUESTS THAT AREN'T OVERNIGHT GUESTS TO STILL BE VALID HOTEL GUESTS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THE RENT TO CABANA HERE IS, IS NOT, IS NOT CHEAP WHEN IT'S BUSY. SO IF SOMEONE JUST WANTS TO USE A SLIDE, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT ARE MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE. THIS REALLY IS FOR OUR GUESTS, GUESTS THAT ARE GUESTS OF THE HOTEL TO HAVE AN ELEVATED EXPERIENCE AND REALLY ATTRACT FAMILIES. AND I, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE , THE CRUISE INDUSTRY HAS REALLY TAKEN OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILY VACATIONS. AND I FIRST WENT TO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE IN 1967 WHEN I WAS THERE FOR COLLEGE SPRING BREAK. I DIDN'T STAY THERE 'CAUSE I COULDN'T AFFORD TO, BUT WE DID TAKE A TOUR AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS. AND I SAID, OH, I'D LOVE TO STAY AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. AND LUCKILY FIVE YEARS LATER, XEROX LET ME STAY THERE. 'CAUSE I WAS HERE ON A CONVENTION. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A RE UH, UM, A RESORT WHERE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO JUST COME AND NEVER LEAVE RIGHT. CHECK IN. NO, YOU, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE AMENITIES, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, SPEND YOUR ENTIRE TIME HERE. JUST LIKE IF YOU WENT ON A CRUISE. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO HOME, GO HOME. SO I DO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANNA DO THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, ELIZABETH, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NO. COULD YOU PLEASE JUST TELL ME HOW MANY CABS YOU HAVE CURRENTLY AND HOW MANY YOU HAVE BY THE TIME YOU FINISHED THE PROJECT? 38. CURRENTLY, SO CURRENTLY 38 OPERATIONAL TODAY THERE'LL BE ABOUT 101 COMPLETE. AND AGAIN, IF YOU SAW FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT'S NOT A NEW IDEA. HISTORICALLY, THERE WERE CLOSE TO THAT MANY CABANAS IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES ALONG THE EASTERN OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE CABANA IS SOMETHING THAT OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS BECOME SOMETHING OUR GUESTS ARE VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN. AND THE DEMAND IS VERY HIGH FOR THOSE. UH, SO THEY'RE ALWAYS BOOKED. AND THE IDEA WAS TO BRING SOME MORE, MAKE SOME MORE AVAILABLE. AND IF RIGHT, A GUEST EVENTS, LIKE HAVE A DAILY PASS FOR A CABANA, THEY HAVE ACCESS, FULL ACCESS TO ALL THE AMENITIES IN THE HOTEL. CORRECT. EVERYTHING IN THE REAR YARD. YES. THANKS. MAYBE I'M, I'M STILL UNCLEAR ON THE PURCHASING OF DAY BEDS, WHICH IS NOT A CABANA AND A LOUNGE CHAIR OR A, UM, CABANA. WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THAT VOLUME YOU SAY IN THE ON WEEKENDS WHEN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HOTEL GUESTS, YOU OPEN THE HOTEL UP TO WHOEVER WANTS TO COME AND PAY FOR IT. WHAT IS THAT [02:30:01] NUMBER? IS THERE A CAP OR NO, I, I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ON THE OPERATIONS TEAM. THE NUMBER FLUCTUATES WITH DEMAND. SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY IF OUR HOTEL GUESTS, THE PRIMARY FOCUS HERE IS THE HOTEL GUEST. AND WHEN THE HOTELS, AS I'VE BEEN EXPLAINED BY OUR OPERATIONS TEAM, WHEN THE HOTEL IS CLEAR, YOU KNOW, IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING BOOKED, WE WANT OUR GUESTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE CABANAS, THOSE DAYBEDS WE DON'T WANT AS HOTEL GUESTS THAT WANT THOSE AMENITIES TO NOT BE ABLE TO USE THEM. HOWEVER, AT TIMES WHEN OCCUPANCY IS LOWER THAN, THAN THAN DESIRED, WE OFFER THAT TO RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH OR THE GREATER SOUTH FLORIDA AREA THAT WANNA EXPERIENCE THE RESORT, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY WANT OR NEED TO STAY OVERNIGHT. BUT IT'S AT A, IT'S AT A PREMIUM THAT THAT COSTS. AND WE HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. BUT REALLY THIS IS THE, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO BRING PEOPLE IN TO INCREASE HOTEL CAPACITY. THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL. WE, WE, WE DID THAT ABOUT A DECADE AGO WITH THE BANQUET, UH, BALLROOM FACILITIES. WE WERE HAVING AN ISSUE. A LOT OF THE LARGE, UH, CONVENTION GROUPS WERE TURNING AWAY FROM THE FOUND BLUE BECAUSE OTHER, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS HAD MORE CAPACITY. AND WE HAVE SO MANY ROOMS AND NOT ENOUGH BALLROOM SPACE. WE ADDRESSED THAT. AND THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL HERE. WE'RE HEARING FROM A LOT OF OUR GUESTS AND A LOT OF OUR, UH, INDUSTRY FOLKS THAT THERE REALLY IS A PUSH TO GET FAMILY ORIENTED RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. SLIDES ARE JUST A BIG THING NOW. YOU SEE IT ON THE CRUISES. YOU SEE IN A LOT OF THESE HOTELS I'VE TAKEN MY KIDS TO, THERE WAS A BONITA SPRINGS, THERE'S A HOTEL THERE WITH VERY SIMILAR, UH, SLIDE AMENITIES. MY KIDS WANT TO GO THERE, THEY WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE THEY CAN HAVE FUN, NOT JUST MOMMY AND DADDY HAVING A DRINK. OKAY. THEY WANNA DO FUN STUFF. AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. THANK THAT'S NOT THE . THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. I ALSO AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE, YOU SAY THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T CHANGE CAPACITY YET. YOU SAY THAT WHEN THE SEASON'S LOW, YOU'LL OPEN IT UP TO AS MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME THAT WILL SUPPORT PAYING FOR A WATERPARK, WHICH ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. MAINTAIN EVERYTHING. I, I STOOD STILL DON'T HEAR ANY CAPACITY LIMIT ON WHAT YOU OFFER. ARE YOU NOT GONNA EVER HAVE MORE VISITORS THAN WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE ROOMS AND THEREFORE IF THERE'S AN EMPTY ROOM, YOU WOULD ALLOW AN EMPTY VI YOU WOULD ALLOW A VISITOR? I I, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO CAP ON WHAT YOU COULD DO IT. IT'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CAP. THERE'S A CAP NUMBER, BUT IT, BUT, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE WAY IT WORKS, AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, WHEN CAPACITY IN THE HOTEL ROOMS IS LOW, WHEN, UH, THE, THE, THE BOOKINGS ARE LOW, THEY'LL OPEN UP THE RESORT PASS FOR FOLKS TO, YOU KNOW, SO YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON SITE THAN WOULD BE, UH, ACCOMMODATED IN YOUR ROOMS ESSENTIALLY. CORRECT. YOU'LL COMMIT TO THAT. YOU'LL NOT HAVE MORE VISITORS ON THAT SITE THAT WOULD BE COMMITTED TO THE ROOMS THAT YOU COULD RENT. IF YOU DON'T RENT ONE, YOU OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. 'CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIR COMPROMISE, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S OCCUPIES BY CODE. SO I THINK I, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. HOW, HOW I CAN CAN PUT THAT IN A CONDITION I, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH MY TEAM, BUT ESSENTIALLY YES. THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA. SO YOU WON'T HAVE MORE VISITORS TO THE SITE THAN WHAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE HOTEL. RIGHT. I MEAN THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S IT. IT'S, IT'S A FORMULA WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO COMMIT TO. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA TO FLUCTUATE THE ABILITY TO USE THOSE AMENITIES FOR NON, FOR NON OVERNIGHT GUESTS WHEN, WHEN THERE'S A LOWER NUMBER OF, OF HOTEL GUESTS PER YEAH. UM, ALSO, I DIDN'T SEE YOU HAVE A LOT OF RENDERINGS OF THE CABANAS, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOK QUITE AMAZING AND THE POOL VERY LITTLE OF THE ACTUAL WATER SLIDE, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THE BIGGEST OPPOSITION IS. THERE'S I THINK TWO PICTURES. DO YOU HAVE ANY VIEWS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FROM THE BEACH, WHICH IS REALLY THE MOST SPECTACULAR VIEW OF THIS BUILDING? I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS SITTING RIGHT ON THE BAY WALK, BEACH WALK. SO IS IT NOT HAVING A HUGE VISUAL IMPACT FROM THE BEACH THAT WE DON'T SEE ANY VIEWS? WELL, AGAIN, THE, IT'S PUT TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT EVERYTHING, ALL THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS, THERE'S A, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A CLEAR VIEW AND THAT WAS THE ATTEMPT. BUT WE CAN PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL RENDERING FROM THE BEACH. WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. OKAY. I MEAN, IT IS TO THE SOUTH END, BUT IT'S SITTING RIGHT ON THE BEACH WALK IS VIRTUALLY OVERHANGING. THE BEACH WALK'S NOT QUITE OVERHANGING, BUT IT IS VERY CLOSE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YES. WE JUST, WE CAN'T TOUCH ANY OF THE OTHER CONTRIBUTING ELEMENTS. SO WE HAD TO PUT IT IN THE PLACE WHERE REALLY ONLY PLACE THAT IT WOULD FIT COMFORTABLY. THAT'S A BE CLOSE. CAN YOU, CAN WE PUT THAT, UH, THE SCREEN BACK UP FOR A SECOND TO SHOW YOU THE CLOSEST VIEW THAT WE HAVE, I THINK FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? SO THAT'S FROM THE BEACH WALK. I MEAN, THERE ARE TREES THERE, SO I, BUT BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A LOOK FROM THE BEACH WALK. BUT YOU'RE QUITE A WAYS NORTH OF WHERE THE ACTUAL WATERPARK IS. YOU'RE SUBSTANTIALLY FAR NORTH YEAH. ON THE BEACH WALK FROM THAT VIEW. YEAH. YEAH. UH, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I SAW. AND I, YOU CAN HARDLY SEE THE, UH, 15 SLIDES THAT ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE ON THE BEACH, BEACH WALKS. I DON'T, IT'S NOT VERY REPRESENTATIVE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL VIEW THAT YOU HAVE OF THE POOL PLAN, IT'S AN EXTENSIVE NUMBER OF SLIDES. THERE ARE, THERE ARE SIX INDEPENDENT SLIDES, BUT THERE'S, BECAUSE THERE'S, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM IS TWO SLIDES, BUT IT'S ONE THING, IT'S ONE, ONE EXPERIENCE. BUT THAT THE, THE, THE SLIDES YOU SEE THAT AT MOST ARE SIX. [02:35:01] I'M SORRY, THEY'RE AT MOST SIX SLIDES ON THE, IN THE SLIDE. SIX SLIDES? YES. OKAY. THREE STRUCTURES AND SIX SLIDES. 'CAUSE THEY HAVE, THE EXPERIENCE HAS TWO PEOPLE CAN WRITE AT THE SAME TIME. CAN I ASK WHAT, WHAT IS THE VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT REQUIREMENT ON THE TOWER? WHY IS THERE A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE HEIGHT? THERE'S, THERE'S NO VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THE HEIGHT OF THAT, UM, UM, STAIR TOWER. OKAY. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT. OKAY. NO, NOT THE TOWER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE YOU, IS THAT YOUR FINAL QUESTION FOR NOW, ? YEP. OKAY. QUESTIONS, MITCH? NO, THAT'S COOL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WOULD THIS REQUIRE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COULD BE ON THIS PROPERTY? OF COURSE. YES. YES. SO THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE A NUMBER AND IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN THAT, UM, THEN THEY CAN BE SHUT DOWN. THEY CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN THAT NUMBER. RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? UH, UH, I WAS JUST CONTACTED, UM, UM, BY, UM, STEVE BOUCHER AND ASK ME IF I HAD ANY QUESTIONS AND I SAID I'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I MET WITH THE APPLICANT. PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD SUGGEST WE START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT IN CHAMBERS AND THEN GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE. OKAY. HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS MARK WEISS. I'M AN ATTORNEY AND I'M A RESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. THIS IS SO OUTRAGEOUS AND FRANKLY, A VERY DISHONEST PRESENTATION. YOU GUYS ARE THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE FOR HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE IN MIAMI BEACH. AND LORD, WE NEED SOME SAVING HERE TODAY. IF YOU ALLOW THIS 12 STORY CONCRETE MONSTROSITY 130 FEET INTO THE SKY, YOU ARE GONNA CHANGE THE ENTIRE SKYLINE AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. MIAMI BEACH IS THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. IT'S THE LARGEST OCEAN FRONT PROPERTY. WHAT YOU DO HERE, REVERBERATES ACROSS THE ENTIRE BEACH. AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? EATER ROCK COMES. I WANT A WATER SLIDE. LOWE'S COMES. I WANT A THEME PARK. I WANT A CASINO. IT IS GONNA SET A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE PRECEDENT. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE FOUND OF BLUE IS A LANDMARK, NOT A THEME PARK. AND I THINK THAT THIS APPLICATION FAILS MISERABLY FOR THREE REASONS. NUMBER ONE, CON COM COMPATIBILITY WITH THE LOCAL ARCHITECTURE. THEY SAY IT VERY WELL THEMSELVES. THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST SLIDES IN AMERICA ON ITS FACE. HOW MANY SLIDES ARE IN MIAMI? ZERO, ZERO SLIDES IN MIAMI ON ITS FACE. IT DOESN'T FIT. AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE, THIS SHOULD BE DENIED. NUMBER TWO, TRAFFIC. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. IT'S NOT GONNA INCREASE LOADS BECAUSE IN THE SIXTIES YOU DIDN'T, YOU HAD CABANAS. AFTER THE SORENTO TRESOR, YOU'VE BUILT A TREMENDOUS LOAD. GO TO COLLINS, GO TO MIAMI BEACH AT FOUR 30, IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER. EVERY VALET IS OVERWHELMED. THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO. AND YOU ASK THE GREAT QUESTION ABOUT TIDAL COVE. TIDAL COVE SITS ON 300 ACRES AND HAS PUBLIC SURFACE LEVEL PARKING. THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, 22 ACRES, NO PUBLIC PARKING AND AN OVERWHELMED VALET. WHERE'S EVERYONE GONNA PARK? THIS IS A TRAFFIC DISASTER. AND FOR THAT REASON ALONE, THIS SHOULD BE DENIED. AND LASTLY, THE MORSE LAPIDUS LEGACY OF MIAMI. HE BROUGHT IN MO DESIGN THAT YOU GUYS WORK EVERY DAY TO PRESERVE, AND THEY'RE GONNA COME AND BRING A CARNIVAL CRUISE INTO OUR BACKYARD, THE ELEGANCE, THE DRAMATIC ENTRANCES THAT HE'S KNOWN FOR. AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SNOTTY, WET KIDS RUNNING AROUND, ROWDY CROWDS, DRUNK PEOPLE. THIS IS MORRIS LAPIDUS. IT IS SO OUT. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A BAD NIGHTMARE. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED HERE TODAY. THEY BROUGHT MIAMI BEACH TOGETHER LIKE NEVER BEFORE. THE MID BEACH ASSOCIATION, 12,000 MEMBERS OPPOSED. THE MIAMI PRESERVATION LEAGUE OPPOSED NORTH BEACH RESISTANCE OPPOSED SIX FLAGS AT FB. GOT OVER 150,000 VIEWS ON THEIR VIDEO OPPOSING, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO VOTE TODAY, AND I KNOW THE FOUND OF BLUE WILL TRY TO LU US TO SLEEP LIKE THEY DID LAST TIME, NOT REACHING OUT TO A SINGLE OWNER IN THE AREA. I REALLY HOPE, AND I TRUST THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEND A STRONG MESSAGE THAT MIAMI BEACH IS KNOWN FOR ITS ELEGANCE, FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE AND FOR ITS HISTORY. AND WE'RE NOT READY TO THROW THAT ALL AWAY FOR A WATERPARK. SO I THANK YOU. AND I WANNA ADD ONE MORE COMMENT ABOUT THE VARIANCES, WHICH I READ, AND I WANNA MAKE MY LAW SCHOOL PROFESSORS PROUD FOR JUST ONE SECOND. THESE ARE AN ABSOLUTE JOKE, VERY JUST VICE CHAIR, JUST 20 MORE SECONDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VARIANCES ARE MEANT FOR MINOR EXCEPTIONS, NOT OVERHAULS OF THE ZONING LAW. THEY'RE ASKING FOR UP TO 16 TIMES REDUCTION IN OPEN SPACE. AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, OUR PROPERTY IS PECULIAR IN SHAPE, SO WE NEED THIS VARIANCE. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT A PROPERTY OWNER CANNOT CHANGE THE CONDITIONS AND THEN ASK FOR A RELIEF. SIMPLY PUT, YOU CAN'T BUILD THE SOO, THE TRUSTOR, THE [02:40:01] SPA, THE COAT, ARCADIA POOLS AND SAY, HEY GUYS, WE NEED SOME HELP OVER HERE. OUR PROPERTY IS SHAPED IN SUCH A HARD WAY. THIS IS VERY HARD. AND THEY SAY THAT THERE'S MIXED REVIEWS FROM THE CONDO OWNERS. THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS. I WILL SELL YOU A BRIDGE IF YOU COULD FIND ME ONE CONDO OWNER, MR. WEIS. I, I DON'T WANNA CUT YOU OFF. THAT'S IT. NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I TO GIVE THIS SO TIME TO EVERYBODY, SO PLEASE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. HI, UH, ROGER GOLET, MDPL. UH, WE ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED WATER STRUCTURE PROJECT OF THE FOUND IN BLUE. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO ADD FAMILY FRIENDLY AMENITIES, WE BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL'S INCOMP INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THIS INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNED LANDMARK DESIGNATED, I'M SORRY, DESIGNATED LANDMARK AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE 130 FOOT TALL WATER SLIDE STRUCTURE WOULD DRAMATICALLY ALTERED THE CHARACTER OF ONE OF MIAMI BEACH'S MOST ICONIC PROPERTIES AND SET A CONCERNING PRESIDENT. THE SCALE OF THE WATER SLIDES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORICAL BEACH RESORT CHARACTER THAT HAS MADE MIAMI BEACH INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED. MIAMI BEACH HA HAS REPUTATION OF OF ALLURE ELEGANCE. UH, NOT ORLANDO, WE'RE NOT ANYTHING ELSE BUT UNIQUELY MIAMI BEACH. WE BELIEVE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES TO ADDING FAMILY FRIENDLY AMENITIES THAT WOULD NOT COMPROMISE THE CHARACTER AND MAKE THE FTO BLUE THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK. IT ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS SHOULD BE. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS CAESAR CORTEZ. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF CPS. WE'RE THE ONLY COMPANY OUT HERE IN MIAMI BEACH ON 16TH AND 15TH. UM, MY REASON OF COMING OUT HERE IS ONE OF MY FONDEST MEMORIES IS WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED TO MIAMI BEACH WAS STAYING AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. IT WAS, UH, MY GRANDMA WAS A HOUSEKEEPER THERE AND, UH, SHE CLEANED ROOMS AND WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO STAY THERE. AND ONE OF THE BEST MEMORIES WAS GOING ON THE SLIDES, UH, AND BEING ABLE TO ATTEND AND HAVE WATER FEATURES. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROMISES FROM THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. I HAVE NO ASSOCIATION FOR THIS PROJECT COMING OVER, BUT I DO HAVE MY STAFF THAT ONCE A YEAR WE HAVE A RETREAT AND WE HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO ORLANDO FOR A WATER PARK. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC THAT WE COULD HAVE THIS IN OUR BACKYARD. UH, SO I AM FORWARD IN SUPPORT OF THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, OPENING UP A WATERPARK FOR MORE FRIENDLY AND FAMILY ORIENTED, UH, HOTEL. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, ALMOST. I'M ANNA MARIE FERA MELO. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MID BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I WISH MR. WEISS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MORE BECAUSE HE ECHOES THE VOICES OF SO MANY PROPERTY, UH, AND RESIDENTS AND MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY THAT WANTED TO SPEAK. I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AS AN ORGANIZATION. MID BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS CONDOMINIUMS IN HOTELS FROM 24TH TO 63RD STREET ALONG COLLINS AVENUE AND INDIAN CREEK DRIVE. WE, UH, THAT INCLUDES THE FOUNTAIN BLUE AND THE PROPERTIES NEIGHBORING. WE WERE NOT CONTACTED. THIS WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN VERY CONFUSING. WE FIRST LEARNED ABOUT IT THROUGH THE MIAMI HERALD ARTICLE IN AUGUST WHERE WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE FOUNTAIN BLUE BE INTERVIEWED AND SHARE SPECIFICALLY THAT DAY PASSES WOULD BE ALLOWED THAT THIS WOULD INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME IN. THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT ONLY THE CABANAS OR HOW MANY CABANAS YOU BUILD, BUT IF THOSE CABANAS ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STAYING THERE, COMING FROM THE AIRPORT, IF THEY TRULY ARE GOING TO STAY AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DRIVING IN AND LEAVING THE SAME DAY. IF YOU LIVE ON COLLINS AVENUE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GET IN AND OUT OF COLLINS AVENUE. FOUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS TRYING TO REDO ALL OF COLLINS AVENUE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE MORE IN THAT AREA. THE, I THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL NOT TO COMMUNICATE. I THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL NOT TO SHOW YOU PICTURES THAT FROM THE SOUTH END. I THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL NOT TO SHOW YOU HOW WE'RE ENCROACHING ON THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE. I THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL NOT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE TRUE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT, ON OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW LITTLE THEY'VE BEEN EVALUATED. UH, ALL OF THAT IS INTENTIONAL AND IF FOLKS CAN COME OR GO, IF THE OPERATIONS ALLOW IT, IF THE NUMBERS I, I DON'T KNOW, YESTERDAY AT 7:00 PM I HAD MY FIRST CONVERSATION, HI, NICE TO MEET YOU IN PERSON, UH, WITH, UM, WITH THE LAWYER AND IN [02:45:01] SHARING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, WE WERE LEARNING ABOUT REALLY THE MA HOW MASSIVE THIS IS BECAUSE TODAY WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVEN SEEN THE PRESENTATION. WE HOLD MEETINGS MONTHLY. WE HAVE POLLED OUR MEMBERS IN SMALL GROUPS, IN LARGE GROUPS, AND THE VAST MAJORITY ARE VERY, VERY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. WHEN I SAY VAST MAJORITY, I'LL SAY THE SMALL MAJORITY THAT DID NOT VOTE AGAINST, IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE BUSINESS OF TELLING PRIVATE PROPERTIES HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS. WE WANT PRIVATE PROPERTIES TO DEVELOP IN A WAY THAT IS ALIGNED WITH OUR CHARACTER THAT RESPECTS OUR HISTORY AND RESPECTS OUR ENVIRONMENT. WE LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LIVE IN OUR ORLANDO, WE OPERATE HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE. AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT AS THEY DEVELOP AND AS THEY PROPOSE PROJECTS TO YOU TODAY, IT'S NOT ABOUT IF THEY CAN COME AND GO, IT'S ABOUT THE VARIANCES. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, WE OPPOSE THIS PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY AND WE HOPE YOU DO TOO. THANK YOU. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HINDA IC. I LIVE AT 4 7 5 COLLINS AVENUE. JUST SIMPLY, I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT EXPLAINED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FOR WATERPARK ON COLLINS AVENUE. WHAT IS THE COMPELLING NEED FOR WATERPARK? IS IT THE NEED? IS THAT NEED GREATER THAN THE CRIPPLING TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION THAT WOULD RESULT UNDERMINING THE CURRENT ATTEMPT TO SOLVE THE CURRENT PROBLEM ON COLLINS AVENUE? IS IT GREATER THAN THE UPHEAVAL OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OWNERS AND THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT? WILL THE NEXT REQUEST BE AN ADDITIONAL BRIDGE ACROSS THE BAY, GREATER THAN THE LANDMARK STATUS? IS IT GREATER THAN THE LANDMARK STATUS AND PROPERTY CULTURE OF MIAMI BEACH? UH, GOING FROM ART DECO TO BECOMING DISNEYLAND OTHER THAN TO SATISFY, SATISFY THE NEEDS OF THE FOUNTAIN BLUE OWNERS? THERE IS NO APPARENT COMPELLING NEED FOR THIS WATERPARK. THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH TO MAINTAIN OUR CULTURE AND DESIGN SHOULD SUPERSEDE THIS FRIVOLOUS PROJECT. AND I HOPE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AND DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT ARE NOW BEING SH SHOCKED AND SURPRISED ABOUT, UH, A PROJECT THAT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR AREA, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE FEEL THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE CULTURE OF MIAMI BEACH FOR THE BEAUTY THAT IT'S HAD ALL THESE YEARS. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM EVERYONE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. I JUST WANNA KNOW, MICHAEL, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? I NOT YES, WE HAVE. WE HAVE, UM, SEVERAL CALLS ON ZOOM. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YEAH. UM, MY NAME'S VINCENT MEFE. I'M A CONDO OWNER AT THE SORENTO. I HAD A, UM, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I SUBMITTED. IS THAT AVAILABLE OR, SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? HE SAID HE HAD A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT HE HAD SUBMITTED. IS THAT AVAILABLE TO SHOW OR I WHAT'S YOUR NAME? THIS VINCENT MCFE. DOES COMMUNICATIONS HAVE THAT PRESENTATION? IF NOT, I'LL I'LL PROCEED. I WOULD SUGGEST JUST PROCEEDING. I DON'T SEE A PRESENTATION. YEAH. ANYWAY, UM, MY WIFE AND I, UH, OWN A CONDO, UH, AT THE SORENTO, WHICH IS DIRECTLY, UH, IN, IN THE FIRING LINE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND I, I RESPECT, UM, THE HOTEL FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY HAVE, UM, TO, TO IMPROVE. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I'M MAINLY OPPOSED TO THE WATER SLIDE. I THINK THE WATER SLIDE IS, UM, OUTTA PLACE. WE ALL KNOW THAT SEQUELS DON'T ALWAYS LIVE UP TO THE ORIGINAL CADDY SHACK ONE VERSUS CADDY SHACK TWO, TOP GUN ONE VERSUS TOP GUN TWO. THIS LOOKS LIKE A SEQUEL TO THE TURNBERRY PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL BLUE AND WHATEVER COLORS, UH, IMPROVEMENT THIS IS, THEY HAD SOME SUCCESS IN TURNBERRY. THE DIFFERENCE IS TURNBERRY'S A 300 ACRE SPOT AND THEY PLACED THEIR TWISTED, UH, GROUP OF WATER SLIDES WHERE IT DOESN'T OBSTRUCT ANY VIEWS. IT'S IN AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION. THE, UM, FOUNTAIN BLUE, UH, PROPERTY IS 22 ACRES. UH, I I PHRASE IT AS IF YOU [02:50:01] CRAM IT IN THERE, THEY WILL COME, THIS, THIS WATER SLIDE IS DIRECT. ALMOST LOOKS LIKE I COULD REACH OUT FROM MY CONDO BALCONY AND TOUCH IT. AND IT WRAPS AROUND. AND THEN THEY GOT THIS AREA WHERE THE KIDS' POOLS ARE NOW, AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT THAT IN THERE. AND IT'S, I I, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S AN ATROCITY. IT'S GONNA PERMANENTLY DESTROY OUR VIEW. INSTEAD OF SEEING THE BEAUTIFUL SUNSET IN THE MORNING AND THE, AND THE, UH, PALM TREES, I'M GONNA SEE SOME TWISTED BLUE PLASTIC. AND SUPPOSEDLY I CAN SEE THROUGH THE, UM, THE ELEVATOR SHAFT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TOO MANY PEOPLE CAN SEE THROUGH AN ELEVATOR SHAFT. UH, BUT ANYWAY, I, LIKE I SAID, I, I RESPECT WHAT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE HOTEL IS DOING AND, AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID IT'S NOT GONNA OBSTRUCT OUR VIEW. AND HE SHOWED A GREEN, UH, LINE OF SIGHT THAT DIDN'T OBSTRUCT THE HOTEL, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA AFFECT MY PROPERTY PERMANENTLY. AND I, I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME, SOME BETTER COMPROMISE ON THIS. AND, UH, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. MY NAME IS ISAIAH SHIPP. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I'M A CONDO OWNER AT 43 0 1 COLLINS AVENUE. THE VAN DO. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE IS RUNNING A BUSINESS AND THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY. AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH REIMAGINING ONE'S PROPERTY AND HAVING GRANDIOSE DREAMS. THAT SHOULD ONLY BE WHEN IT'S RESTRICTED. THE EFFECT IS RESTRICTED TO YOUR OWN PROPERTY AND NOT THE ONE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE. UH, BEYOND, UM, I, OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED THE FACT THAT YES, THEY HAD WATER SLIDES BEFORE WHEN HE WAS A CHILD. HE REMEMBERS IT SO FONDLY, BUT MAYBE IT LOOKED BIG TO HIM AT THAT TIME 'CAUSE HE WAS SO MUCH SHORTER. . BUT IT DOES NOT COMPARE TO WHAT'S BEING PUT UP RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THE COMPARISON AND, AND, AND THE EMOTIONS OF IT ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. UM, THE, THE AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT OF BOTH NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION, WHICH IS IN EFFECT, NOT JUST THE SORENTO, THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING, BUT BUILDINGS, EVEN THREE, FOUR BUILDINGS AWAY, IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA DIMINISH THE VALUE OF ANY CONDO WITHIN THE AREA. UM, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALSO WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS HEARING ABOUT THE TURTLES, THE SEA TURTLES. AND WE HAD TO HAVE SPECIAL LIGHTS ON THE WHOLE, ON THE WHOLE, UH, UH, BOARDWALK BECAUSE THE TURTLES GET CONFUSED. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THESE TURTLES THAT ARE NESTING ON THE BEACH WHEN THIS MONSTROSITY GOES UP AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON UNTIL WHO, WHO KNOWS WHEN. UM, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED BEFORE, THOUGH. I, AND I AGREE WITH THEM, BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER, I WOULD ASSUME, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE, THE WATER USAGE OF, OF ALL THESE SLIDES THAT ARE GONNA BE USED IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALWAYS WATER SHORTAGE. UH, YOU MAY HAVE DRAINAGE INTO THE, THE CHLORINATED WATER DRAINING INTO THE STORM TO THE STORM SYSTEMS AND GOING OUT INTO BISCAYNE BAY. AND I'M ALWAYS READING ABOUT THE CORAL REEFS AND THE MANATEES AND THE SEA GRASS AND HOW THAT'S GONNA NEGATIVELY AFFECT THAT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE MENTION THAT AT ALL. AND THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD. UM, SO I, I, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF, I WOULD THINK EVERYBODY IN MY BUILDING. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE BEEN APPROACHED ABOUT IT AT ALL. AND UH, I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS MIRIAM WEISS AND I WANNA SPEAK TODAY FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES. ONE IS I OWN UNITS IN THE SURROUND IN THE SORENTO BUILDING AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, AND I ALSO LIVE IN OWN IN THE BLUE DIAMOND. HE PRESENTED A SLIDE SHOWING UNOBSTRUCTED VIEWS FROM THE HOTEL. THIS IS A 12 STORY, 130 FEET HIGH TOWER THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH. THIS IS NOT A MARVELL MOVIE. THEN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SLIDES THAT WRAP AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING LIKE AN ANACONDA AND COME UP IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT OWN UNITS FACING NORTH AND FACING TO THE OCEAN. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAVED UP TO BUY A 500 SQUARE FOOT UNIT. THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, THEY LOOK AT THE POOL AND THEY LOOK AT THE OCEAN. THEY'RE GONNA PLOP THIS DOWN RIGHT IN FRONT. AS MR. HOLLINGWORTH SAID. THEY DID NOT SHOW ONE HONEST SLIDE HERE. ALL WE SAW WAS THERE'S GONNA SERVE A LOT OF GELATO. [02:55:02] HE MENTIONED GELATO FOUR TIMES. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT FAMILY FRIENDLY. ANYONE CAN COME IN THERE. THIS MAN SAID HE LIKES TO DO, HE LIKES TO HAVE, UM, RETREATS WITH HIS CORP, WITH HIS CORPORATION. ADULTS WILL COME HERE, ROWDY JUVENILES WILL COME HERE. I KNOW HOW THE FOUNTAIN BLUE WORKS. PEOPLE RENT A ROOM. THEY COME THERE, THEY BRING 10 FRIENDS. THEY ALL HANG OUT AT THE POOL. THEY DO NOT MONITOR CAPACITY. THEY DO NOT MONITOR WHO COMES THERE. AND THEY DO NOT LOOK. I GO DOWN THERE, I OWN UNITS. I CANNOT FIND ONE SEAT AT THE POOL. THE CAB BANNERS ARE RENTED. EVERYTHING IS FOR RENT. EVERYTHING IS FOR SALE THERE. OKAY? THERE ARE A LOT OF OWNERS HERE. WE HAVE, WE BARELY GET TO USE THE AMENITIES. THEY WILL NOT MONITOR IT AS A RESIDENT. THERE'S GONNA BE NOISE TRAFFIC. YOU'RE GONNA WALK, JUST LIKE YOU SAID ON THE BEACH WALK. THEY DID NOT SHOW ONE PICTURE. YOU'RE GONNA WALK DURING YOUR WALK. YOU'RE GONNA LOOK UP, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A HUNDRED FEET IN THE AIR OF SLIDES. THERE'S NOT ONE RENDERING. WHAT KIND OF RENDERINGS ARE THIS? I HAVE TO SEE THE GELATO STAND FIVE TIMES. I HAVE TO SEE THE TREES. THE TREES MAGICALLY BLOCK EVERYTHING. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 11 VARIANCES. NOT DE MINIMIS VARIANCES. MAJOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE CODE. THEY'RE ASKING YOU FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. YOUR ORDINANCE STATES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT VIEW CARTER DUNE PRESERVATION OVERLAYS. THEY'RE GOING FROM 50% TO 4.7%. HOW MANY DIFFERENT THINGS CAN THEY ASK FOR HERE? THEY DID NOT DISCUSS IT. AND YOU KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T DISCUSS IT? BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD EVER WANT THIS. ONLY THE PERSON SELLING TICKETS, BELIEVE ME, THEY JUST ADMITTED THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU IN THEIR PRESENTATION. THEY'RE SELLING DAY PASSES. PEOPLE COME THERE TO EAT A LAKO, THEY COME THERE TO DRINK. THAT'S ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. THEY WANT TO DRIVE TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE TO SELL MORE DRINKS, MORE AMENITIES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OWNERS. ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT OWN THESE UNITS, THEY WON'T. THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE GONNA PLUMMET TWO TO 300,000 OVERNIGHT. AND THE RENTAL INCOME WILL TOTALLY DIMINISH. WOULD YOU WANT, I'M FINISHING. WOULD YOU WANNA RENT A UNIT? WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND LOOK AT THAT? WOULD YOU WANT, WOULD YOU LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF YOUR, WHEREVER YOU LIVE, YOU ALL SAY I BIKE THROUGH HERE, I LIVE OVER THERE. DO YOU WANNA WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND LOOK AT THIS MONSTROSITY OF 120 TOWER METAL TUBING, PLASTIC TUBING, MECHANICAL PUMPS, NOISE, SPLASHING, EVERYTHING. IT'S AN ABOMINATION AND YOU SHOULD DENY IT AND YOU SHOULD TELL THEM TO TAKE IT OUT. HI, MY NAME IS BLAKE CAROLI. UH, MY FAMILY OWNS A PLACE WITHIN THE TRACER CONDO THERE. THERE'S A FEW CONCERNS THAT CAME UP. THERE'S ONE, I THINK EVEN MR. HOLLINGSWORTH BROUGHT UP AND I, I THINK MAYBE IT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER ONES MENTIONING ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES NOT BEING COMPLETED. THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY QUITE DISTURBING AND VERY DECEIVING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DO THIS. NOW KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DAYBED RENTALS, I JUST LOOKED UP, HE SAID RESORT PASS.COM, ON AVERAGE, IT'S ABOUT FOUR PERSONS PER BED. I CAN RENT A BED TODAY FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF $50 A PERSON. NOW LET'S SAY YOU BRING IN, YOU'RE NOW ADDING A HUNDRED CABANA SPACES TIMES FOUR. THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE. YOU CAN NOW, NO, SORRY, MY MATH IS WAY OFF ON THAT ONE. IT'S 400 PEOPLE, 400 PEOPLE. BUT STILL THAT'S STILL 400 PEOPLE MORE. AND THEN AS MRS. WISE RECENTLY SAID, ALSO, PEOPLE COME IN, THEY'LL RENT A DAY BED FOR FOUR, THEY'LL SHOVE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN ON THERE. NOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS, IS THAT YES, WHILE A LOT OF THE GUESTS COME TO THE RESORT, WE WANNA BRING FAMILIES, WE WANNA BRING A ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN BY OPENING IT UP TO DAY PASSES. WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS PEOPLE COME INTO THE HOTEL. MOST PEOPLE DON'T COME WITH A CAR. THEY'LL TAKE A TAXI FROM THE AIRPORT, THEY'LL STAY IN THE HOTEL. THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE. THEY WANNA GO TO RESTAURANTS OUT, THEY'LL TAKE TAXIS. THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE TO DO THAT. NOW, IF YOU'RE BRINGING DAY PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE COMING AND DRIVING NONSTOP, THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE AREA IS GONNA BE OBSCENE. ESPECIALLY DURING THE RUSH HOURS WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING THE WATERPARK, IT'S GONNA ADD TO THAT CHAOS. NOW, ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S ALSO LIABILITY ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED. I HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED AT ONE OF THEIR COMPETITORS THAT THEY USE BAJA MAR. I DO KNOW THEIR WATERPARK IS ACTUALLY OFFSET FROM THE HOTEL BECAUSE IT CREATES A LOT OF NOISE. THE PUMPS THEMSELVES ARE OBSCENE WHAT THEY DO ALL DAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TO WEAR EARPLUGS IN THE AREA WHERE THE PUMPS ARE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE PUMPS. WHO KNOWS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF THAT. OR MAYBE THEY HAVE, BUT THEY JUST DON'T WANNA SAY SHOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA SHOW ANY PART OF THE WATERPARK. BUT THAT BEING SAID, YOU'RE GONNA BRING IN A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE. NOW WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE AND ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING IN. NOW WHAT HAPPENS, LIKE I KNOW FROM BAJA MAR, I ACTUALLY KNEW EXECUTIVES, THEY TOLD ME AT LEAST ONCE A DAY THEY GET AN EMAIL SAYING A CHILD GOT INJURED IN THE WATERPARK. NOW IF AMBULANCES HAVE TO SHOW UP AND WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH THAT TRAFFIC, HOW ARE YOU GONNA COMPETE WITH, HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THEM ACCESS, ACCESS TO EVEN HELP SOMEONE ON THE BEACH? THERE'S OTHER ISSUES ALSO. BUT EVEN GOING BACK TO THE OTHER THINGS, THE HISTORICAL SITE CONCEPT OF IT. LIKE THIS OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID, HE'S BEEN COMING HERE FOR YEARS. HIS FIRST IMAGE WAS WATER [03:00:01] FOUNTAIN BLUE. I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN TO FLORIDA FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. I'M CANADIAN. TRUST ME, WE LOVE THE HEAT, WE HATE THE COLD. BUT THE END RESULT IS THAT WHEN WE, I CAME DOWN AS A KID, I DO REMEMBER THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, I DO REMEMBER THE GROTTO POOL. I REMEMBER ALL THOSE THINGS. YES THEY DID. THEY DID BRING IT UP TO NEWER STANDARDS, NEWER LEVELS OF BASICALLY NOT TAKING IT OUTTA THE EIGHTIES AND PUTTING IT TO THE MODERN DAY. HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE THINK ABOUT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE BEING HISTORIC AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA ADD IT BEING A FAMILY, FAMILY THING. I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO BEAT THE CLOCK HERE. BUT GOING BACK TO THE BAJA MARK KIND OF CONCEPT THAT THE REALITY IS NOT EVERYONE GOES THERE JUST FOR THE WATERPARK. MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE GO THERE FOR THE GAMBLING, THE RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN. YOU HAVE TENNIS COURT, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE PICKLEBALL COURSE, YOU HAVE MINI GOLF, YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER AMENITIES. THEY DON'T GO THERE JUST SOLELY FOR THE WATERPARK. THAT WATERPARK SITS EMPTY 90% OF THE DAY. YOU CAN GO IN THERE, IT'S LIKE YOU CAN HEAR A PIN DROP NIGHT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS DOES NOT BRING AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY THINK IT DOES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S JACK FIN GLASS AND I WAS ON YOUR BOARD FOR SIX YEARS AND WAS CHAIRMAN FOR TWO AND A HALF. AND UM, I'VE HEARD EVERY STORY THERE IS TO HEAR FROM LAWYERS AND I KNOW THAT, THAT THEY CAN MAKE BLACKS SEEM WHITE AND WHITE SEEM BLACK. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE TODAY. THEY'RE PULLING THE WOOL, ATTEMPTING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER YOUR EYES. EVERY PROJECT, EVERY PROJECT THAT THAT CAME BEFORE US WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, PEOPLE TRIED TO FUDGE THE DRAWINGS TO MAKE THEIR PROJECT LOOK LIKE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. SHOWING YOU A BUNCH OF TREES THAT HIDE THE WATERPARK AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND SAYING, THIS IS GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL GREENERY. IT'S NOT GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL GREENERY. AND THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY RAISED THEIR HAND AND SWORE TO TELL THE TRUTH. I BEG TO DIFFER. I I, I MEAN YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE THAT'S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. SO I AM FULLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. AND ONE, ONE LAST THING TO SAY, UM, IF YOU WERE ON THE, UH, QUEEN ELIZABETH TWO AND THAT'S AN ICONIC SHIP, JUST LIKE THE FOUNTAIN BLUE IS AN ICONIC BUILDING. CAN YOU IMAGINE PUTTING A 30 STORY THIS WATER SLIDE ON TOP OF THE QE TWO? I CAN'T. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO TO ONE OF OUR MAJOR LANDMARKS OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I THINK IT'S A SHONDA, WHICH IN JEWISH MEANS A SHAME. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS PHILLIP FINEMAN. I LIVE IN 4 7 7 5 COLLINS AVENUE. WE'RE JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS FROM HERE AND I'VE BEEN, UH, I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR HAVING THAT APARTMENT SINCE UH, 2 0 0 5 2 0 0 6. AND NOW I HAVE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO WE CAME, WE BECAME PERMANENT RESIDENCE MIAMI BEACH. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE CAME HERE IS FOR THE BEACH TAKE. AND I'M GLAD SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT WALKING FROM THE BOARDWALK. WHAT IS THE VIEW GONNA BE? YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS, THIS RIDICULOUS, UH, 12 STORE, UH, 120 FOOT, UH, STRUCTURE. TAKE AWAY, UH, TAKE AWAY FROM THE VIEW OF THE CO THE, UH, FOUNTAIN BLUE, WHICH IS ICONIC HOTEL. AS EVERYONE SAID. UH, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT EVERYTHING, UH, WHAT EVERYONE SAID, 'CAUSE I STRONGLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING. THE GENTLEMAN WHO, THE ONE PERSON WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF IT PROBABLY IS NOT A RESIDENT IN THAT AREA. AND MY SUGGESTION, ALTHOUGH I CERTAINLY RESPECT HIS OPINION FOR THAT, IF HE WANTS A WATERPARK TO UH, HE COULD GO UP TO JW MARRIOTT AND, UH, BENEFIT FROM THAT WATERPARK, WHICH FOUNTAIN BLUE APPARENTLY HAS SOME SORT OF, UH, UM, UH, OWNERSHIP, UH, THING. BUT REGARDLESS OF THAT, I, I'M NOT, AS I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE 'CAUSE I DO SUPPORT IT. I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A POINT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE THAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO. EVERYONE'S ASKING, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE HE GOING TO COME? YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEM SEND A SOLID NUMBER 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA SAY IT. THAT'S A LAWYER. THEY, THEY JUST BOB AND WEAVE AND THEY DON'T TELL YOU, UH, I DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR ROOM, WHAT THEIR ROOM CAPACITY IS. 'CAUSE YOU GO BET IT'S GONNA BE THREE OR FOUR TIMES THAT, UH, MY, MY KID, MY SONS HAVE COME DOWN HERE, THEY'VE RENTED KE CABANAS AND THEY'RE ALWAYS TELLING ME, OH, WE, WE RENTED, YOU KNOW, 10 PEOPLE RENTED, 20 PEOPLE THERE. AND THESE AREN'T THE FAMILIES GETTING OFF THE CRUISES AND STAYING FOR A DAY OR TWO. THEY DON'T HAVE A LITTLE JIMMY AND BETSY, COME ON, SIT DOWN, WE'LL GET YOU A LITTLE ICE CREAM. THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE PARTY PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO PARTY. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE IS THERE. THEY DON'T CARE. I MEAN, THEY WANNA SELL GELATO, BUT THEY WANNA SELL, SELL, UH, UM, ALL THE, UH, TOP SHELF, TOP SHELF LIQUOR THAT THEY CAN SELL AND ALL THE CHAMPAGNE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMANDS ARE. FEW, UH, WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED UP, I THINK IT WAS SIX OR 700 BUCKS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S YEARS AND YEARS AGO. SO AS THE UH, GENTLEMAN SAID, THEY'RE HERE TO IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS, I RESPECT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT. I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT WHO CAME, AS I SAID, I MOVED FROM NEW YORK TO COME DOWN HERE TO BENEFIT FROM MIAMI BEACH, THE ICONIC MAN MIAMI BEACH. AND AS AN ASIDE, WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE, I [03:05:01] REMEMBER IT WAS, IT WAS JULY 4TH WEEKEND OF 2005, I WAS WITH ONE OF MY SONS WHO WAS, I DUNNO, I THINK IT WAS IN COLLEGE. AT ANY RATE, WE STAYED AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. HE SAID, OH DAD, YOU SHOULD BUY ONE OF THESE PLACES. IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEKEND IT WAS OPENING UP. IT WAS SUCH CHAOS. THEY HAD TO CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THE GARAGE WAS OVERWHELMED. THEY COULDN'T GET, SO THE POLICE WERE THERE TRYING TO SORT OUT ALL THE CARS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. BUT THE THING THAT, THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS WE'VE HEARD NU WE HAVEN'T HEARD NUMBERS. WE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FUDGE STUFF AND ALL THAT STUFF. ABOUT 50, IF YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST, I GUESS IT, IT OPENED UP THE FIRST CONDO BUILDING AT FOUND, AND BLUE OPENED UP ABOUT 2005. IT WAS RIGHT ON COLLINS AVENUE. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE FACING EAST WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN OCEAN VIEW, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND ALL THAT STUFF. WELL, WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS OF SELLING OUT, GUESS WHAT CAME UP NOW? THEY PUT, UM, UH, FOUNTAIN BLUE CAME FORTH WITH BUILDING PLANS FOR, I GUESS THE T WHICHEVER ONE BLOCKS THEIR VIEW. SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FOUNTAIN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A OCEAN VIEW. GUESS WHAT VIEW? THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE A VIEW OF SOMEONE'S BEDROOM, A BATHROOM LOOKING IN THERE. AND THEY DID SOME FANCY FOOTWORK AND THEY, YOU MADE SOME AGREEMENTS WITH THEM. UH, A LITTLE VARIANCE HERE. BUT THE, AND, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WAS THEY WANNA HAVE MORE GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THIS, THIS, UH, PARK NOW, THIS, UH, WATER PARK, WHICH OUT IS OUTLANDISH. AND, UH, UH, MY PREDICTION IS IF, IF ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED IN A COUPLE WEEKS, I'LL BE BACK. YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SELL TO THE PUBLIC. WE, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS RKA FRIEDMAN. I'M A RESIDENT IN THE BLUE DIAMOND. SO FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I'VE NEVER, EVER SPOKEN AT ONE OF THESE THINGS. I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. IT'S A LITTLE INTIMIDATING. UM, I'M SITTING HERE OBSERVING THIS BOARD AND I'M OBSERVING THE PROCEEDINGS EVEN BEFORE THIS. AND I WANNA SAY THAT YOU'VE ALL ASKED VERY INSIGHTFUL AND, AND RECENT QUESTIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE THIS WAS BROUGHT, UM, TO THE BOARD. AND, UM, IT, IT'S, I, I WANNA THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE, YOU'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN REAL THOUGHT TO OTHER PROJECTS. I WANT YOU TO GIVE REAL THOUGHT TO THIS PROJECT. THE FOUND BLUE HOLD SOMETHING VERY DEAR TO ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I MET MY HUSBAND 48 YEARS AGO. SO WE LOVED IT SO MUCH THAT WE BOUGHT A, UH, AN APARTMENT IN A BUILDING, FOUR, FOUR BUILDINGS AWAY FROM THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. 'CAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING FOR US, THIS WAS AN IDEAL FOR US. UM, THERE, WE'VE SEEN MANY CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD. SOME OF THEM BEAUTIFY THE AREA, AND A LOT OF THEM YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BECAUSE THE BOARDWALK, THE WALK IS MAGNIFICENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS PAID SO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE FLORA AND THE FAUNA THAT GOES, GOES AROUND THERE. SO IT BECAME A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. ONE THING THAT'S NOT GOOD IS THE TRAFFIC. SO, AS I SAID, WE'RE ON 47TH STREET, AND TO GET TO 41ST STREET IS SIX BLOCKS. SIX BLOCKS MAYBE WITH THE LIGHTS. SHOULD TAKE FIVE MINUTES, NO MORE AT THREE O'CLOCK, I INVITE ANY OF YOU TO PLEASE COME WITH ME. I WILL DRIVE, COME FROM MY APARTMENT TO 41ST STREET TO MAKE THAT TURN COULD TAKE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR. SO A TRAFFIC REPORT AND STUDY MUST BE DONE. I HAVE A PERSONAL ISSUE WHERE MY HUSBAND'S DISABLED. IF I HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR I HAVE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR AND HAVE TO MAKE THAT ROUND, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S, IT'S FRIGHTENING. NOW AT THREE O'CLOCK, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. YOU'RE SITTING THERE FOREVER. THE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE HAVEN'T TO PERSONALLY HAVE, UM, A FISH AND WILDLIFE LICENSE. AND SO I KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRE PRESERVATION. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TURTLES RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN OUR, IN OUR BUILDING AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE SO RESPECTFUL OF THAT. WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF OUR BEACH. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN, AS THEY SAID, IF PEOPLE SAID BEFORE US, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN? I MYSELF HAVE GOTTEN DAYBEDS WITH FRIENDS COMING INTO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. SO THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COMING IN THERE WITH KIDS WITH ROWDINESS, WITH DRINKING, WITH GOD KNOWS WHAT, WHAT ELSE GOES ON? SO THERE'S THAT. BUT SORRY, ONE MORE THING. AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE DESIGNER SAYING THAT HE, UH, WAS RESPECTING THE ORIGINAL [03:10:01] DESIGN OF, OF THE BUILDING, I THINK HE REALLY MISSED THE MARK ON THAT ONE. . SO I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT'S SPEAKING YOU, YOU CAN COME ON UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TIMER SET FOR THREE MINUTES TO TRY. I'VE, I'VE ALLOWED EVERYONE TO GO OVER, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY A MINUTE. BUT IF WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THEM, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET THEIR POINT ACROSS, BUT LET US KNOW YOUR OPINIONS SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THIS MOVING. THEY'VE KIND OF JUST THE LOWER TWO, HUH? YOU COULD ADJUST THE TIME LOWER TWO IF YOU WANT. YES. I, I MEAN, I, I CAN ADJUST IT LOWER, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE OKAY. I JUST, BUT IF WE CAN STICK TO THE TIME, OTHERWISE I WILL HAVE TO LOWER IT. OKAY, THANKS. HELLO, MY NAME IS SARAH WEISS AND I LIVE AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, 35, 35 INDIAN CREEK. AND, UM, THIS PROJECT, WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO PAINT IT AS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT WITH GREENERY, WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL GREENERY RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE NOT MISSING THAT. UM, IT'S GONNA DESTROY, DESTROY MIAMI BEACH, UM, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE, IT WILL DESTROY THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE. WE COME HERE, IT'S RESORT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S VACATION. UM, IF I WANTED TO, I WOULD GO TO ORLANDO OR ANYBODY WHO WANTS PARKS AND SLIDES AND THINGS, GO TO MY GO, GO, GO TO ORLANDO, OR YOU CAN GO TO TURNBERRY RIGHT HERE WHERE EVERYTHING IS SO, UM, PRESERVED AND, AND RESIDENTIAL, AND THIS JUST DOES NOT FIT. I WALK THE BOARDWALK EVERY SINGLE MORNING AND IT'S GONNA DESTROY EVERYTHING AROUND THE WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY, UM, THE LEAST THE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES WILL, WILL, WILL PLUMMET DOWN. AND GELATO YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE TO GET GELATO, SO LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT. BUT THIS PROJECT IS A DISASTER IN HAPPENING. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS REUBEN KOSKI. I'M AN OWNER IN RESOR. UH, I'VE NEVER SPOKEN OR BEEN TO ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO, UH, TO SEE THE BOARD AND, AND HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WORK AND HOW LOOK INTO EVERYTHING. IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES. THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE AGAINST. IT'S, UM, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. UH, I'VE LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES. I ORIGINALLY LIVED ON 14TH AND COLLINS, AND THEN I LIVED IN THE GREEN DIAMONDS, AND THEN I LIVED IN RESOR. I NOW LEAVE IN SOUTHEAST HOLLYWOOD WITH MY FAMILY, RIGHT ABOVE HO, RIGHT ABOVE DALE BEACH. AND I TAKE, UH, COLLINS TO COME DOWN HERE. UM, THIS DRIVE, WHEN I TURN THE DRIVE TO GET WITHOUT A WATERPARK, TO GET FROM MY HOUSE DOWN COLLINS AVENUE TO HERE ON MY, ON MY GOOGLE MAPS LAST NIGHT, SAID IT WOULD TAKE 31 MINUTES. MY UBER TOOK AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES. NOW, THE PROBLEM WITH THE WATERPARK IS THAT IT'S, IT'S GONNA UN ATTRACT PEOPLE DURING THE DAY. AND WE ALL KNOW COLLINS AVENUE IS BUSIEST IN THE MORNING AND IN THE LATE AFTERNOON GOING INTO THE EARLY EVENING. AND IF WE'RE GONNA, EVEN IF THE CAPACITY LIMITS OF THE HOTEL STAY THE SAME, THE PE EVEN IF THE CAPACITY IS THE SAME, AND THEY'RE NOT HOTEL GUESTS, BUT PEOPLE COMING DURING THE DAY, THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING EXACTLY AT, AT NINE O'CLOCK WHEN THE WATER PARK OPENS TO GET THEIR MONEY'S WORTH. AND THEN THE WATER PARK CLOSES WHEN IT, WHEN IT BECOMES NIGHT, RIGHT? FIVE O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK, AND THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE. THESE ARE THE TIMES THAT ARE THE PEAK TRAFFIC FOR COLLINS AVENUE. AND I DON'T THINK COLLINS AVENUE CAN HA CAN HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC. UM, FOR SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH FOR MANY YEARS AND IS CERTAINLY CONSIDERING IT MAY MOVE BACK TO MIAMI BEACH, I REALLY LOVE THE CITY. I DON'T THINK THE WATER PARK IS THE ANSWER. I ADMIRE THE HOTEL AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO MOVING THE PROPERTY FORWARD AND TRYING TO IMPROVE THINGS. I DON'T THINK THE WATERPARK IS, IS THE ANSWER, UH, TO THIS, UM, THE, THE FABLE ALSO, SINCE I GOT A MINUTE TO TALK ANYWAYS, THE FUMBLE IS A, HIS IS IS A PIECE OF HISTORY, RIGHT? IT'S A HISTORIC RESORT. PEOPLE TRAVEL THE WORLD TO COME TO THE P BOOTH. PEOPLE TR PEOPLE FLY TO PARIS TO GO SEE THE EIFFEL TOWER. PEOPLE FLY, YOU KNOW, TO TO, UH, TO ROME TO SEE THE COLOSSIAN. THEY FLY TO BUFFALO TO SEE, UH, TO SEE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, NIAGARA FALLS. THEY COME HERE TO SEE THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT COMING. 'CAUSE THEY WANT A WATER PARK. IF THEY WANT A WATER PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO TURNBERRY, WHICH IS GREAT, AND THEY SHOULD GO TO TURNBERRY. YOU CAN GO TO ORLANDO AND YOU COULD HAVE WATER PARKS FOR THE WHOLE WEEK. THERE'S, THERE'S WATER PARKS ALL OVER ORLANDO. SO I DON'T THINK THE WATER PARK'S [03:15:01] THE ANSWER. AGAIN, I THANK EVERYONE, UH, FOR COMMENT ON BOTH SIDES, FOREIGN AGAINST, AND I THANK THE BOARD ALSO FOR LISTENING TO, TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. STARTED EARLY THIS MORNING, SO WE'RE HAVING FUN YET. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. UH, MY NAME IS ROBERT WEISS. I'M A RESIDENT AT THE BLUE DIAMOND, AND I ALSO OWN A PROPERTY IN THE SORENTO. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE VICE CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS ESPECIALLY LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD MEMBER, UH, MR. HOLLINGSWORTH, HE SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ONE WHO'S PEELING BACK THE LAYERS OF THIS STINKING ONION. UM, SO, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT WE EXPECTED TO SEE HERE TODAY. YOU GUYS ARE THE PRESERVATION BOARD. YOU'RE THE PROTECTORS OF MIAMI BEACH, HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTURE. I WATCHED SOME OF YOUR MEETINGS AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THIS BOARD'S CONCERN TO THE SMALLEST MINUTIAE DETAIL OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THAT'S HOW YOU PROTECT MIAMI BEACH. NOW, WHILE MANY OF US DON'T FOLLOW YOUR MEETINGS, I DON'T, YOU CAN'T MISS DRIVING OR WALKING DOWN COLLINS AVENUE AND YOU SEE THESE BIG STEEL SKELETONS HOLDING UP THE FACADES OF THESE BUILDINGS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS BEING REDEVELOPED. FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT. AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, NOBODY WOULD DO THAT VOLUNTARILY. SO I KNOW THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS SPEND, I, I KNOW YOU'RE PASSIONATE. IT'S TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND IT'S EVEN, IT'S INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ENTERTAIN THIS WATER SLIDE IN, IN, IN THE BACKYARD. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT A BACKYARD, IT'S NOT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. IF YOU'RE ON THE BOARDWALK, IT'S THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. I'M SURE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE FROM THE OCEAN SIDE THAN THEY DO FROM THE COLLIN SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING. I CAN REALLY NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE FOUNTAIN BLUE FOR PROPOSING THIS LIKE, NIGHTMARE. IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST A NIGHTMARE. I MEAN, THERE'S MAKING MONEY AND THEN THERE'S NIGHTMARE. AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THIS IS EVEN GOOD FOR THEM, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SITUATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, TO BRING CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE TO THE BACK OF THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, I THINK IS JUST PATHETIC. THIS IS THE SAME BOARD, WELL, MAYBE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT IT'S THE BOARD THAT PRESERVED THE BOW TIE TILES IN THE LOBBY AND THE FOUNTAIN BLUE AND PRESERVED THE STAIRCASE TO NOWHERE AND PRESERVED THE CHEESE WALL DURING THE LAST, IS THAT ME? HOLY COW. . ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY. CAN I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE? I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT. I'M GONNA TALK FAST. I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE. EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC. SO TRAFFIC, INCONVENIENCE, I'M GONNA MISS MY APPOINTMENT DELAY WHAT NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT. AND WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN I SEE THIS TRAFFIC IS DEATH BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE CROSSING FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC UNLOADING, AND OF COURSE YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE COMPETING WITH, THE IDIOTS WHO RENT THE LAMBORGHINIS AND DRIVE A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR IN FRONT OF THE FOUNTAIN, BLUE TO PER TO IMPRESS THEIR FRIENDS, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH FATAL ACCIDENTS. IT'S GONNA BE A TRAGEDY, AND THAT'S A TRAGEDY THAT YOU CAN AVERT AND YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE LOVE TO SAVE BUILDINGS AND WE WANT TO PROTECT BUILDINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO PROTECT PEOPLE. WE HAVE TO PROTECT LIVES TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARIO LEE GALACIA. I LIVE ON 25 55 COLLIN AVENUE. THAT'S THE, UH, CLUB ATLANTIS. I'VE BEEN, UH, RESIDENT AND OWNER FOR MANY YEARS HERE, AND I HAVE SOMETHING VERY IN COMMON WITH, UH, THE FONT BLUE. WE WERE BORN ON THE SAME AGE. IT WAS THE SAME YEAR, 1954. SO FOR ME, IT IS, I HAVE IT IN MY HEART AND I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE FONT BLUE MANY YEARS BEFORE [03:20:01] I LIVED HERE IN MIAMI BEACH. AND, UH, FOR ME, I THINK THAT MR. LAPIDUS IS REVOLVING IN HIS GRAVE WITH THIS IDEA. ALSO THE RED PACK, ALSO EVERYONE THAT REALLY LOVED THE FONTAN BLUE FOR WHAT IT WAS FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL, UM, UH, ARCHITECTURE AND WHAT THIS MEANS TO MIAMI BEACH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I REALLY WANT TO ASK THE PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, JEFF, UH, AND HIS, UH, UH, HIS, UH, INVESTORS IS IF THEY HAVE DONE SOME KIND OF, UH, FOCUS TEST INVESTIGATION RESEARCH TO BRING THIS MONSTER OF AN IDEA INTO IN THE MIDDLE OF A CITY. YOU KNOW, WHEN WAL DISNEY BUILT DISNEYLAND, HE PURCHASED TONS OF ACRES IN THE BOONDOCKS. NO ONE WAS AROUND THERE. SO HE BE, HE BUILT THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK FOR CHILDREN TO COME IN HERE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FAMILIES ARE COMING TO WITH CHILDREN TO THE MIDDLE OF MIAMI BEACH. DID THEY DO A RESEARCH THAT REALLY HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE GOING TO COME TO, UH, THE FONTAN BLUE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY? BECAUSE FONT BLUE IS NOT INEXPENSIVE WITH THE CHILDREN. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE RESEARCH THEY HAVE DONE, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COLLINS AVENUE, BUT WE HAVE TO MENTION 41ST, WHICH IS OUR MAIN WAY, COSTWAY TO GO TO THE CITY. SO WHAT WOULD THAT MEANS? NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, BUT WE THAT LIVE AROUND. THERE'S NO WAY I'M A REALTOR AND EVERY TIME I HAVE TO GO AND SHOW ANY APARTMENTS PASSING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY HOT. SO FOR THE REST OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA AND FOR THE VISITORS TOO, IT'S GONNA BE HARDER TOO. SO FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY, UM, THEY HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH, AND YOU HAVE BEEN, I TOOK ALL MY TIME LISTENING TO THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. YOU ARE VERY S ABOUT KEEPING OUR MIAMI BEACH AT THE, UH, HISTORIC AND ALSO THE, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE OF MIAMI BEACH. I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS A LANDMARK THAT SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED WITH A KIND OF LIKE A PLASTIC SLIDES AND, UH, TOTALLY DESTROYING WHAT MAURICE LAPITA INTENDED FOR IT. THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M EILEEN MILLER. WE, WE OWN RASOR, ONE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS ON THE FOUNTAIN BLUE PROPERTY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO US AND TAKING YOUR VALUABLE TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE, AND WE REALLY DO HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ALL OF THIS AS YOU. WE NOTICED THAT THE OTHER, THE OTHER APPLICATIONS, THERE ARE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED THAN WITH OUR APPLICA WITH THE APPLICATION FROM THE FOUNTAIN LOU. SO WE REALLY DO HOPE IT'S NOT ALL BEEN PREDETERMINED BY BIG PLAYERS, AND I REALLY DO HAVE THE, UM, THE FAITH THAT Y'ALL HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND YOU REALLY DO CARE ABOUT MIAMI BEACH OR YOU WOULDN'T BE SPENDING THIS MUCH TIME. THAT BEING SAID, MY HUSBAND AND I CAME, WE'RE SENIOR CITIZENS IN OUR TWILIGHT YEARS, AND WE LOOKED AROUND, WE WENT TO NAPLES, WE WENT ON THE, ON THE WEST COAST. AND ALTHOUGH LL BE AT THE BEACH IS MAGNIFICENT THERE, WE LOOKED AROUND DIFFERENT AREAS FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE WE DECIDED TO COME TO MIAMI BEACH. AND LOOKING AROUND MIAMI BEACH, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, OH, I'M SORRY, SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. AND WE DECIDED ON THIS PROPERTY AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE. THE CONDOS WERE PERFECT FOR US. AND MOST IMPORTANT, WE LOVED OUR VIEW OF THE BEACH. WE LOVED THE BOARDWALK, AND WE LOVED THE SERENITY AND THE QUIET ATMOSPHERE THAT WE WERE AFFORDED HERE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND OUR ENTIRE YEAR WORKING. I'M A, I'M A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. MY HUSBAND'S A FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND WE DO, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME DECIDING WHERE WE WOULD GO OUR SENIOR YEARS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE DECIDED TO COME. AND WE PRAY THAT IT IS NOT TOTALLY RUINED BY THIS, I DON'T WANNA SAY MONSTROSITY, BECAUSE IT'S A WATER PARK FOR CHILDREN. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THIS ISN'T THE PLACE FOR IT. IT'S JUST NOT THE PLACE FOR IT. WE LOVE THE ATMOSPHERE AROUND MIAMI BEACH, AROUND SOUTH BEACH, AROUND THE AREA. OUR DAUGHTER SETTLED IN VENETIAN CAUSEWAY. WE FIRST CAME HERE, IT TOOK US 10 MINUTES TO GET TO HER APARTMENT FROM OURS. NOW IT'S, AT LEAST NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY WE GO, IT SEEMS LIKE [03:25:01] IT'S AT LEAST A HALF AN HOUR. SO PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE LONG-TERM POTENTIAL, NOT POTENTIAL LONG-TERM PROBLEMS THAT THIS WATERPARK, THIS PLAYGROUND, THIS AMUSEMENT PARK, WERE BRING TO ALL ASPECTS OF OUR AREA IN MIAMI BEACH. NOT JUST US AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, BUT THE ENTIRE AREA OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THE BOARDWALK, THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTOR. VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW, UM, IDEAS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT, I KNOW IT'S NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW, BUT THE MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF MIAMI BEACH BEING THE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC AREA THAT IT IS FROM WHEN OUR GRANDPARENTS CAME HERE AND WHEN OUR PARENTS CAME HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WITH THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN GO, WE CAN MOVE TO THE ONLINE COMMENTS, MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK. OKAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE FREE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LISA, LAST NAME DARD, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR STEWARDSHIP OF REPRESENTING THE CITY. I ADDRESSED IT ALL BY EMAIL RECENTLY. WE ONLY LEARNED OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAYBE LAST FRIDAY WITHIN 24 HOURS, WE HAVE PROBABLY 200 SIGNATURES SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE. AND I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE BEEN IN THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS 30 YEARS. I'M CURRENTLY AN EXECUTIVE FOR A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. I LIVED IN NEW YORK FOR 20 YEARS, AND YES, THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT WORD TO CALL THIS DEVELOPMENT ATROCIOUS BECAUSE IT'S A WATER PARK, IT IS FOR FAMILIES. BUT I HAVE TO REITERATE WHAT I'VE HEARD THE PREVIOUS TWO SPEAKERS SAY, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT WHEN IT'S COMPARED, COMPARED TO THE JW MARRIOTT ON AVENTURA. THERE'S NO COMPARISON. THAT DEVELOPMENT IS WAY OFF THE A ONE A. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE LATE TODAY BECAUSE FROM WHERE WE RESIDE AT CCOS 51 51 CALLINGS, IT TOOK US 45 MINUTES ON A TUESDAY AT 12 O'CLOCK TO GET HERE TODAY. SO THAT JUST SPEAKS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, THE HIGH DENSITY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, 11 SWIMMING POOLS, A 12 STORY TOWER FACING THIS BELOVED BOARDWALK THAT THE CITY SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEVELOPING THAT NOW THEIR RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY RIDING THEIR BICYCLES, WALKING WITH THEIR DOGS, THEIR FAMILIES. THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE THREATENED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A SELFISH AIM OF DEVELOPERS TRYING TO SAVE PROBABLY A 1500 ROOM LUXURY HOTEL THAT IS A DINOSAUR. WE HAVE SO MUCH LUXURY PRODUCT COMING TO THE BEACH TODAY. THE AMOUNT HOTEL, THE NUMBER ONE CHAIN IN THE WORLD IS OPENING IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. ROSEWOOD ALL THESE BIG BRANDS THAT ARE COMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE UPLIFTING WITH HIGH-END CONSUMERS, OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE REALLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE LANDSCAPE OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IN MIAMI BEACH. I MOVED, UH, TO MIAMI THREE YEARS AGO, SO DID MY PARTNER FROM NEW YORK CITY. HE WAS IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. I WORKED FOR A MAIN HOTEL CHAIN AND WE OPENED PROBABLY SEVEN PROPERTIES IN THE COURSE OF MY CAREER IN NEW YORK. I GOTTA SAY THAT I SAW THINGS THAT WENT BY EVEN IN NEW YORK THAT YOU WOULD, WOULD NOT BE EVEN OF CONSIDERATION OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE COMMUNITY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO SAFEGUARD THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE IN MIAMI BEACH TODAY TO THE FORMER SPEAKERS. THE FACT THAT YOU CAN WALK THIS BEAUTIFUL WALK, WALK, WALK, UH, EXCUSE ME, BOARDWALK ALL THE WAY TO THE BEACH, ALL THE WAY TO BATTLE HARBOR AND RIDE A BICYCLE TO BATTLE HARBOR AND HAVE DINNER THERE THAT DOESN'T EXIST. AND WE HAVE IT AND WE HAVE TO PRESERVE IT. THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN A LAOS BUILDING TOO. I HAVE TREMENDOUS ADMIRATION FOR THE ARCHITECTURE OF THAT TIME. AND THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE COME HERE FOR. TO TAKE THIS 15 ACRES OF THIS COMPOUND OF WHAT THIS PROPERTY MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS BEAUTIFUL LANDMARK AND TURN IT INTO AN ATTRACTION PARK IS A CRIME. SO I TRULY ENCOURAGE ONE THING, IF I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, MY COMMUNITY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME I TAKE AN ACTIVIST FIRM STAND ON BEHALF OF MY BUILDING TO TRY TO GET SIGNATURES, TO TRY TO ORIENT THEM, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO OUR REAL ESTATE VALUES, HAVING A WATER PARK DOWN THE STREET, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH WITH 1500 ROOMS THAT ARE GONNA BE OCCUPIED AT PROBABLY LOWER RATES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR DEBT SERVICE AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN DISCLOSED WITH TRANSPARENCY. WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE COST OF THIS NEW INFRASTRUCTURE? WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE IMPACT TO OUR TURTLES THAT DO CROSSOVER AT NIGHT ON [03:30:01] THE BOARDWALK? WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE IMPACT OF 11 SWIMMING POOLS IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE AND WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THIS WATER WITH ALL THOSE, THIS CHLORINE AND HOW IS GOING TO INF AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE PIRATES THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS, TO GIVE IT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MIAMI COMMUNITY TO TRULY COME FORWARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LOOKING AFTER A COMMUNITY. APPRECIATE THAT. MA'AM. MA'AM, MA'AM, WERE YOU, WERE YOU SWORN IN EARLIER TODAY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO'S WHO'S SPOKEN IS SWORN IN. DID, WERE YOU SWORN IN EARLIER? I HAVE NO, I, OKAY. COULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THEN ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT YET BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE OR HAVE GIVEN IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE ZOOM COMMENTS, AND THEN IF WE HAVE ANYBODY LEFT, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE CHAMBERS. BUT WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THIS NOW TO TWO MINUTES. GOING FORWARD. OUR NEXT CALLER IS ALICIA CASANOVA. HI, ALICIA. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. MY NAME'S ALICIA CASANOVA. I HAVE SERVED AS BOARD PRESIDENT OF THE GREEN DIAMOND CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION AND THE BLUE DIAMOND AND GREEN DIAMOND MASTER ASSOCIATION. FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN LISTENING INTENTLY TO ALL THE SPEAKERS HERE AND FULLY AGREE WITH ALL THEIR POSITIONS. OUR BLUE AND GREEN DIAMOND TOWERS WITH 630 UNITS ARE JUST TWO PROPERTIES NORTH OF THE FONT AND BLUE. YET AT NO TIME WERE WE CONTACTED OR INCLUDED IN ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS MASSIVE PROPOSED PROJECT THAT WILL CERTAINLY IMPACT ALL OF US. THE COMPLETE LACK OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS EXTREMELY DISTURBING. WHILE WE DON'T OBJECT TO THE FONT AND BLUES DESIRE TO RENOVATE OR ENHANCE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE CURRENT PLANS, WHICH INCLUDE A RIDICULOUSLY HIGH 120 FOOT 10 STORY WATER SLIDE. AND ITS LARGE ACCOMPANYING PLASTIC OR IRON STRUCTURE, SOMETHING THEY PROUDLY DESCRIBE AS ONE OF THE TALLEST SLIDES IN THE COUNTRY. AND ONE WILL MOST LIKELY INTER ATTRACT A HUGE NUMBER OF DAY VISITORS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE TALLEST WATER SLIDE IN THE US TODAY IS ONLY 25 FEET TALLER AND IT'S LOCATED IN NONE OTHER THAN FREEZING WISCONSIN. AFTER THOROUGHLY REVIEWING THE 11 VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED TODAY, WE FIND NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR THE HPB TO GRANT THESE SIGNIFICANT WAIVERS. WE ALSO QUESTION WHY A PROPOSAL OF THE SCALE AND IMPACT TO OUR CITY IS NOT BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR A BROADER PUBLIC EVALUATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND WERE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS PUBLIC OUTREACH AND TRAFFIC STUDIES WOULD NORMALLY BE EXPECTED. OUR CONCERNS ARE SUBSTANTIAL. THEY INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND ADDITIONAL UNBEARABLE CONGESTION THAT WILL RESULT FROM THIS ATTRACTION BEING LOCATED ON AN FDOT CONTROLLED MAJOR ROADWAY, WHICH IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WHICH WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR SEVERAL MORE YEARS. OF COURSE, INADEQUATE VEHICLE ACCESS, GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THE FONTA BLUE'S DRIVEWAY AREAS, LACK OF STACKING SPACES, AND LACK OF SELF PARKING. OF COURSE, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR DIRECT PROXIMITY TO THE DUNES, MS. CASTILLO, TO RESPECT, TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL IN THIS CURRENT FORM. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN REVISED PLANS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO JUST BEFORE WE DO THAT, SO, SO AS WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR REMAINING ZOOM COMMENTS, WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE TIME, UH, BASED ON THE ADVICE FROM STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY, WE'VE LOOKED INTO THIS TWO MINUTES. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED. CI I SUPPORT MY, MY NEIGHBOR'S STATEMENTS. IT DON'T REPEAT THE STATEMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD. IF, IF, IF YOU CAN AVOID IT. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER IS DANIEL ERALDO. YES. DO I NEED TO BE SWORN IN AGAIN? NO, NO. DANIEL, YOU ARE SWORN IN THIS MORNING. OKAY, THANK YOU. DANIEL SERATO, SEVEN 30 10TH STREET. I WAS ALSO THE CURATOR OF THE MORRIS LAPIDES EXHIBIT IN 2022. SO I'M IMAGINING WHAT HE WOULD THINK WATCHING THIS HEARING AND SEEING THE PROPOSAL. HE DID LOVE DRAMA, SO I THINK HE WOULD'VE BEEN DELIGHTED AT THE CONTROVERSY. THE RESIDENTS OF THE ADJACENT CONDO MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, WHICH GOVERNS A RELATIONSHIP. AND IF IT'S ALL JOINED TOGETHER, ONE WOULD EXPECT THEY WOULD NEED A THUMBS UP TO MOVE FORWARD. SO I WOULD URGE THEM TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE FOUNTAIN BLUE INSTEAD OF USING THE HPB AND OUR GOVERNMENT TO MODERATE THAT RELATIONSHIP. I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE THIS AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION ISSUE. IT IS A SLIDE. LEGALLY THIS [03:35:01] COULD GO EITHER WAY GIVEN THE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED. HOWEVER, I AM LEANING TOWARDS SAYING YES TO A FUN, FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITY. I REMEMBER GOING TO THE FOUNTAIN BLUE AS A KID GROWING UP HERE IN MIAMI BEACH AND SWIMMING AT THE GROTTO. THEN IT WAS DESTROYED WHEN THE TRESOR TOWER WAS DEVELOPED. AND NOW THE TRESOR OWNERS DON'T WANT A SLIDE TO BLOCK THEIR VIEW. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A REAL MIAMI BEACH STORY. SAME WITH THE GREEN AND BLUE DIAMOND. TWO OF THE LARGEST TOWERS IN MIAMI BEACH AFTER THEY WERE BUILT, THAT WHOLE AREA WAS DOWN ZONED. BUT THESE OWNERS SEEM TO BE THE SOURCE OF MOST OF TODAY'S OPPOSITION. FOR YEARS, TALLAHASSEE HAS BEEN WATCHING THESE MEETINGS AND HEARING HOW MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST EVERYTHING. THESE SORT OF DISPUTES DO NOT HELP OUR CASE TO MAINTAIN LOCAL CONTROL. SO I WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, MIAMI BEACH IS A WELCOMING PLACE. WE WELCOME PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, INCLUDING FAMILIES. WE SHOULD ALL WORK TOGETHER ON A BETTER DESIGN TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS AND ENSURE A DISCOUNT FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO ENJOY THE HISTORIC PROPERTY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS HOWARD BALABAN. HOWARD, DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. HOWARD, ARE YOU ON MUTE? WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT CALL AND IT'LL COME BACK IF YOU'RE STILL AVAILABLE. UM, THE NEXT CALLER JUST HAS THE, UM, IPHONE ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU COULD, UM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN I'LL SWEAR YOU IN. PLEASE. YES, HELEN MANUEL. HI. DO YOU, DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. I'M AN OWNER. I HAVE, UM, UNITS ON SORETO NORTHSIDE, AND THIS IS, THIS PROJECT IS GONNA BE A DISASTER. I USED TO COME TO FOUNTAIN BALLOON SINCE, UM, LIKE 15 YEARS AGO WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE A UNIT MYSELF. I USED TO RENT IT AND I ENJOYED IT SO MUCH. STAYING IN THE BALCONY, LOOKING AT THE BEACH, LOOKING AT THE SUNSET, SUNRISE, WALKING ON THE BOARDWALK. NOW I WOULDN'T EVEN WANNA COME THERE BECAUSE, OH, I'M GONNA GO TO THE BALCONY AND I, I SEE THESE, LIKE THESE, UM, SLIDES AND NOISE AND ALL OF THESE TRAFFIC. THIS, THIS IS NOT PHANTOM GLUE IS NOT KIDS FRIENDLY. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FOR KIDS, IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR KIDS. IT'S AN AS ADULT AND, AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR KIDS. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BE, THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR MIAMI BEACH. AND, UM, MY, UH, AND THE, THE, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY OF UNITS, OUR UNITS, UM, FALLING DOWN, I MEAN A LOT. I DON'T WANNA THINK ABOUT BUYING ANYMORE. I DON'T WANNA EVEN THINK ABOUT STAYING THERE. IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH. THIS IS, I THINK IT'S A NIGHTMARE. I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER EVEN, UM, UM, EVEN CONSIDERING IT, IT'S, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, AT THE EXPENSE OF OWN OWNERS, LOSS OF EQUITY, EQUITY AND PEACE OF MIND, WHICH WE WORKED HARD FOR IT, WE WATCH VERY HARD TO MAKE, UH, TO, TO TO, TO BUY THIS AND ENJOY IT AND HAVE A LITTLE INCOME AND THIS IS RUINING EVERYTHING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS KAREN MAFA. I, KAREN, DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY I AGREE WITH ALL THE OTHER PO POINTS POSING THIS WATERPARK, BUT MY OTHER POINT IS, IS THAT I'M AFRAID THE OTHER HOTELS WILL START DOING THE SAME THING AND IT COULD BECOME SOMETHING LIKE A AMUSEMENT PARK ALL UP AND DOWN, UM, SOUTH BEACH, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF CRIME LIKE CONEY ISLAND. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE UP THAT, THAT STATEMENT. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER HAS A DESIGNATION, UM, SCREEN AS SAMSUNG SM X 800. HELLO? HELLO. HI, COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME [03:40:01] FOR THE RECORD? YEAH. OKAY. MY NAME IS, UH, DIDIER VALLE. I'M HI DIDIER. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. I AM, I AM, UH, OWNER AND RESIDENT AT, UH, GREEN DIAMOND. BASICALLY, I, I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE CRITICISM OF THE, OF THE, OF THE PROJECT, PARTICULARLY THE, THE, THE CHARACTER OF MIAMI, THE WATER MANAGEMENT, THE TR THE PROBLEM OF TRAFFIC, ET CETERA. AND I THINK THAT IF WE ACCEPT THIS PROJECT, IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OUR HISTORY. AND, AND I THINK OUR HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT, IS, UH, IS IS LARGE PART OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN MIAMI. AND I, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. ANOTHER POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT THE FRONTEND BLOW, UH, LIKE THEY PRESENT THE, THE, THE FACT TODAY ARE VERY IMPRECISE AND DISHONEST IN MY OPINION. AND THERE IS NO PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE WATER USAGE. THE, THE, THE NOISE OF PUMPS, THE TRAFFIC, THE CAPACITY MANAGEMENT. I, I TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF THE CAPACITY MANAGEMENT. IT WAS VERY PRECISE. UH, MAYBE WE WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE THESE DAY, LESS PEOPLE THESE DAYS. IT'S UH, IT'S A JOKE. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS TO MAKE MORE MONEY. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US. AND THEY, AND THEY CONSIDER THAT THEY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IS MONSTROSITY. IT'S BRINGING DISNEY WORLD IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY NICE AREA, HISTORIC AREA, AND IT'S, IT WOULD BE A DISASTER TO ACCEPT IT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS MALIA REICHMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MALIA. ER, THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES, I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. UH, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONY TODAY. MY NAME IS MAYA REMAN. I LIVE ON COLLINS AVENUE BY THE FOUNTAIN BLUE AND I AM URGING THIS STAR PRESERVATION BOARD TO SAY NO TO THIS WATER PARK PROPOSAL, 12 STORY, 130 FOOT WATER SLIDE. TO BE FRANK, WHEN I SHOW THIS TO PEOPLE, THEY THINK IT'S A JOKE, LIKE A PRANK. THEY CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT THERE A PROPOSAL LIKE THIS WOULD BE PUSHED THROUGH HERE TODAY OR PUT EVEN UP TO VOTE. TODAY, PUTTING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A FLOATING CARNIVAL CRUISE SHIP IN THE HEART OF MIAMI BEACH WILL HAVE SERIOUS OR REVERSIBLE CONSEQUENCES. LET'S START WITH THE OBVIOUS. THIS DOES NOT FIT THE BRAND OR A CHARACTER OF THE FOUNTAIN BLUE OR OF MIAMI BEACH. THE FOUND BLUE WANTS TO BE A MIX OF OLD WORLD GLAMOUR AND MODERN NIGHTLIFE. AND TO BE FRANK, THE FOUNTAIN BLUE PICKED THEIR BRAND ALREADY. THEY ARE THE NIGHTLIFE PARTY, ADULT DRINKING AND, AND THAT'S GREAT AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND WHEN YOU MIX THAT WITH A 12 STORY WATERPARK, YOU DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GOING TO THE BARS DRINKING AND THEN TRYING TO STUMBLE UP 12 STORIES UP IN THE AIR AND GO DOWN A RUSHING WATER SLIDE. SOMEONE IS GONNA GET HURT. AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF WHEN. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC HAS BEEN A MAJOR CONCERN. HOW ARE THOSE AMBULANCES GONNA BE GETTING TO THE FOUND BLUE WHEN THERE'S SLIP AND FALLS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MUCH WORSE? AND THEN THERE'S HURRICANE SEASON. I'VE ACTUALLY STAYED AT THE FOUND BLUE DURING HURRICANES WITH THE FOUND BLUE TOP RATED HURRICANE WINDOWS. AND EVEN THEN THE GLASS IS SHAKEN. AND NOW WE'RE EXPECTED TO BELIEVE THAT GIANT PLASTIC SLIDES RIGHT ON THE OCEAN, SCREWED IN BY A COUPLE OF BOLTS. HOW ARE WILL BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND HURRICANE SEASON? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBRIS THAT COULD TEAR THROUGH BUILDINGS, AND THAT REALLY IS A PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHTMARE. THE BUILDING IS ALREADY MAXED OUT. IF YOU GO THERE, YOU'LL SEE IT GO IN DECEMBER TIME. IT'S BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. THE FAB COULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE YOUR CONCERNS, BUT IT'S DONE. THEY HAVE THREE HOTEL BUILDINGS, TWO CONVENTION CENTERS, MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS, ONE OF THE TOP NIGHTCLUBS IN MIAMI AT SOME POINT. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THIS PROPOSAL IS UNSAFE OUT OF CHARACTER AND COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE REALITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS HOTEL. THIS IS RIGHT AND IT MUST BE REJECTED. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS VIVIAN. HI VIVIAN. COULD YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD FIRST? VIVIAN CHAVEZ. THANK YOU. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE GREEN DIAMOND AND ONE THING I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, UM, AGAINST THIS [03:45:01] THING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T WANNA REPEAT IT LIKE YOU SAID, BUT ONE THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED THAT NOBODY HAS SAID IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE STEEPEST DROP OF A WATER PARK OF A SLIDE IN THE WORLD OR IN NEW YORK OR OR MIAMI. DO YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE SCREAMS ARE GONNA BE OF THOSE KIDS EVERY MINUTE WHEN THEY GO DOWN THAT SLIDE AND THE RESIDENTS, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY WITH THESE KIDS? THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO BRING UP. AND, UM, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VIVIAN. NEXT CALLER IS CHRIS KEARNEY. HI CHRIS. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, CHRIS? I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, I OWN SIX CONDOMINIUMS AT THE FOUNTAIN BLUE HOTEL IN BOTH TRE SEWER AND SORRENTO TOWERS. AND I LOVE THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. I'VE BEEN GOING THERE ALL MY LIFE AND I APPLAUD MANAGEMENT FOR ATTEMPTING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THE FOUNTAIN BLUE RELEVANT. WHAT I DO NOT APPLAUD HOWEVER, IS THIS PROJECT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, FORCE THROUGH. AND I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT ALL OF THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ALREADY, SO I WON'T, UH, THERE ARE TWO COMMENTS THOUGH THAT I DON'T THINK HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH MUCH CLARITY. THE CONDOS IN THE SOTO TOWER, UH, VIRTUALLY ALL WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE ADDITIONAL NOISE BOTH FROM THE CROWD AND FROM THE PUMPS, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. AND AT LEAST A HUNDRED OF THOSE CONDOS ARE GONNA BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE LOSS OF VIEWS. OCEAN VIEWS, BOTH OF THOSE ARE GONNA RESULT IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IF NOT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPERTY DEVALUATION, WHICH IS GONNA LEAD TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REDUCED PROPERTY TAXES PAYABLE TO THE CITY OF MIAMI. AND SALES TAXES FROM RENTALS PAYABLE TO THE CITY OF MIAMI AND FLORIDA. UH, THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, AND IT IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A SOLUTION HERE, RIGHT? WE HAVE TWO SIDES THAT CERTAINLY THINK THAT, THAT THEIR SIDES ARE, UH, ARE VIABLE. UH, BUT THERE'S A PROPERTY ON THE FOUNTAIN BLUE, UH, AREA IN THE NORTH THAT IF THE WATERPARK WAS SCALED DOWN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SCALED DOWN TREMENDOUSLY. BUT IF THE WATERPARK WAS MOVED TO THAT NORTH PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WOULD IMPACT MUCH OF THE ISSUES AROUND VIEWS AND NOISE TO BOTH THE HOTEL AND TO THE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS. AND THEN THE FOUNTAIN BLUE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A WATER PARK, HOPEFULLY TO A SMALLER EXTENT AND HAVE THEIR CABANAS AND ALL THE OTHER ITIES THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, THAT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE. WHY THEY'RE STICKING THIS WATER PARK NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL CONDOS OR THE RENTAL CONDOS. I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GOING TO ALIENATE A LOT OF THE OWNERS AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, AS I MENTIONED, PROPERTY VALUES AND TAXES TREMENDOUSLY. PUT THE WATER PARK IN THE NORTH, UH, PART OF THAT PROPERTY AND, UH, I THINK A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION WILL GO AWAY. THE NEXT CALLER IS DOV KLEIN. HI DOV. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I GUESS SO. DO YOU SO SWEAR? I DO AFFIRM. YES. SO TWO MINUTES. MY NAME IS DOV KLEIN. I LIVE AT 47 47 COLLINS AVENUE, WHICH IS THE MIMOSA. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I LIKE TO SAY IS THAT I OBJECTED THE PROCESS CARRIED OUT BY THE FOUND BOOTHS AND NEVER REACHED OUT TO US AS A BOARD OR TO, UH, ANY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND OTHER BUILDING BOARDS, UH, TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT AHEAD OF TIME AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, COME TO SOME COMMON, UH, COMMON GROUND WHERE WE CAN ALL BE APPRECIATIVE OF SOME OF THE AMENITIES AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORTH THAT NEVER HAPPENED. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WAS FAULTY. UH, HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD AND WITH IT I CONCUR AND I, I SPEAK PARTICULARLY TO THE PASSION THAT MARK WEISS BROUGHT, UH, IN HIS, UH, COMMENTS TO THE BOARD. UM, AND I ECHO THOSE WHO COMMENTED TO THE BOARD AS, UH, WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN OTHER PROJECTS. AND I WISH THAT THE BOARD LOOKED VERY, VERY CLOSELY AT ALL THE SUPPOSED VARIANCES, UH, THAT THIS PROJECT, UH, IS LOOKING TO ACHIEVE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, OF ALL THE RESIDENTS OF OUR BUILDING, WE, WE OBJECT VOCIFEROUSLY TO THIS PROJECT AS IT STANDS. PERHAPS IT COULD BE MODIFIED IN SOME FASHION, BUT CLEARLY THE WAY IT SITS RIGHT NOW, IT, IT'S GONNA BE AN ICE STORE. PEOPLE WHO ARE UH, HAVE BEEN IN THE HABIT OF ENJOYING WALKING ALONG THE BEACH FRONT, UM, AND HAVING PRISTINE VIEWS ARE GOING TO BE HAM HAMPERED TO HAVE THOSE VIEWS, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, [03:50:01] THE WAY IT'S ENVISIONED. IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE SAID, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLEAR VIEW AS TO WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FROM THE BEACH SIDE AND, AND THIS WHOLE, UH, IDEA OF TRYING TO RUN THIS THROUGH WITHOUT PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT, BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY IT IS, IS UH, IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. AND LASTLY, I CONCUR WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, WHICH HAS GOT TO BE MADE. ULTIMATELY, IT'S GONNA BE FAR, FAR WORSE THAN IT DOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER IS JACOB. JACOB . HI JACOB. DO YOU SWEAR TO THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, DO, DO YOU SO SWEAR? YES. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UM, I JUST WANTED TO RAISE A FEW POINTS. WE ARE, AS A FAMILY, WE HAVE A FEW UNITS IN THE SORENTO TOWERS AND WE ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO COMING DOWN FROM NEW YORK ALL THE TIME, WHETHER IT BE THE SUMMER, WINTER, ANY BREAK THAT WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. UM, A FEW THINGS THAT WERE, THAT THEY HAD NEVER CONTACTED, AS WE'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES BY THE OTHER OWNERS, UH, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT HAD JUST BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THEMSELF AND NEVER CONTACTED OR WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH ANY OF THE OTHER OWNERS. AND, UH, BY PUTTING THIS FORTH, THEY KIND OF DECIDED TO PUT IT ON THE OWNER SIDE WHERE THE CONDO BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED AND NOTHING ON THE HOTELS OWNED PROPERTY. MEANING IF THEY WANTED TO ACTUALLY ENHANCE THEIR OWN PROPERTY, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF GRASS TO DO IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOTEL GROUNDS AND IT WOULD COMPLETELY BLOCK OUT 10 FLOORS OF THE OCEAN SIDE OF THE, OF THE HOTEL. AND WHEN YOU WAKE UP, MIAMI'S BEEN KNOWN FOR ITS AWESOME SUN AND EVERYTHING. YOU COME THERE JUST TO BASK IN THE SUN. NO ONE'S COMING THERE TO GO FOR THE SIX FLAGS WHEN WE COME THERE FROM NEW YORK OR WHATEVER. WE JUST WANNA GO AND JUST RELAX AND JUST IN THE SUN BY JUST COMING THERE TO LIKE A WATERPARK. IT'S COMPLETELY NOT THE IDEA OF WHAT MIAMI HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR. AND IF WE WANTED TO GO TO LIKE A REAL WATERPARK, WE CAN ALWAYS GO TO OTHER WATER PARKS. IT'S JUST NOT THE PLACE FOR IT BEING THAT MIAMI HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR ITS AWESOME SUN AND WOULD, BY PUTTING THIS FORTH, IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY OBSTRUCTING THAT AND DAMAGING WHAT IT'S BEEN ALWAYS HISTORICALLY, UH, FAMOUS FOR. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS IF THE BOARD CAN COMPLETELY RECONSIDER, UH, THESE VARIANCES AND OBJECTING TO PUTTING THEM FORTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. NEXT CALLER IS HOWARD BALABAN. HI HOWARD. DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? HOWARD, PLEASE UN UNMUTE. UNMUTE YOURSELF HOWARD, GO AHEAD. HOWARD BALABAN. I OWN, UH, MY FAMILY OWNS FIVE UNITS IN BOTH THE TZO AND THE SORRENTO BUILDINGS. I'LL BE VERY QUICK. UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE WATER PARK IS GONNA CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE HOTEL AND IT BECOME LESS OF A HOTEL AND MORE OF AN AMUSEMENT PARK. AND NUMBER TWO, AND MY LAST POINT IS, I THINK THE SAME IMPACT WE WILL HAVE ON THE BOARDWALK AND ALL OF MID BEACH, WHICH WILL TURN INTO A MORE HONKY TONK AREA THAN WE HAVE NOW. THANK YOU. AT THE END OF, DID WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK? NOT REALLY. , NO ONE'S GONNA MAKE YOU. I JUST SAW YOU STAND UP, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED IT. HI, MY NAME IS MARY SAVAGE, MY HUSBAND SCOTT, AND I OWN A CONDO AT THE RESOR AND WE DROVE EIGHT HOURS TO BE HERE. WE LIVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA FULL-TIME AND PURCHASED OUR UNIT AS A A PART-TIME VACATION HOME FOR US. AND THIS IS SO DISTRESSING. UM, I GREW UP IN HISTORIC HOME BUILT IN 1806. MY FATHER WAS THE FOUNDING MEMBER, THE VARIOUS HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND I'VE CONTINUED HIS LEGACY AND, [03:55:01] AND HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND THIS IS JUST SUCH A SHAME. I MEAN, AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE HISTORY FOR A FUTURE GENERATIONS? UM, WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT IS THE TACKIEST TRASHIEST PLACE AND AND WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE YOUR, THE LEGACY OF THE PEOPLE AHEAD OF YOU PRESERVE THE HISTORY AND THE BEAUTY OF, OF MIAMI BEACH. AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SHARE THEIR SUPPORT, UM, FOR OUR VOICES, BUT, AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO STAND UP JUST LIKE I WAS. IT'S SCARY STANDING UP HERE AND SPEAKING. BUT PLEASE TAKE IN CONSIDERATION ALL OF OUR, THESE ARE SOME PEOPLE'S HOMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, SCOTT. WELL, YOU JUST DON'T WANNA OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX. BE CAREFUL, YOU KNOW, BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, BUT WE HAVE ONE LAST CALLER ON ZOOM. NORTON. NORTON NESSUS. HI NORTON. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? UH, YES I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI, UH, I, UH, MY WIFE AND I OWN A NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE, UH, IN THE FOUNTAIN. AND WHEN I SAW THE PROPOSAL, I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT. IT WAS SHOCKING. FIRST OF ALL, THE AREA AS IT IS, IS PACKED WITH BUILDINGS, PEOPLE, POOLS, CHILDREN PLAYING OUTSIDE IN THAT KID ZONE AREA. THERE'S NO UNUSED PART OF THAT AREA. AND THEN TO TAKE THIS ENORMOUS, I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT, A 12 STORY PROJECT AND PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CROWDED AREA AND HAVE ALL THOSE SLIDES WRAPPING AROUND THE BUILDING, CHILDREN SCREAMING AND YELLING. IT WAS JUST INCONCEIVABLE. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WOULD EVEN THINK OF DOING SUCH A THING. AND SO I AM TOTALLY AGAINST IT AND EVEN SHOCKED THAT IT SHOULD COME UP. CAN MY WIFE SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS, ? SURE, GO AHEAD. IT'S NOBODY CONSIDERED THE SMALL OWNERS. THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THEM. THEY'VE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIFE. THEY PUT DOLLAR TO DOLLAR AND THEY BOUGHT THIS APARTMENT AND THEY FELT LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS THEN TO POP THIS IN FRONT OF THEIR WINDOW, IT MAKES THE APARTMENT COMPLETELY UNUSABLE. I MEAN, MR. SOFA, YOU'RE A BILLIONAIRE, ISN'T IT ENOUGH? YOU HAVE TO RUIN PEOPLE'S INVESTMENTS. IT WON'T BE WORTH ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK SO. WHEN THEY SAY FOR GUESTS ONLY, THAT'S A BUNCH OF BOOKS. WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND I'VE SEEN IT, ONE PERSON RENTS AN APARTMENT, A STUDIO, AND HE BRINGS 10 FRIENDS AND THEY ALL SLEEP ON THE FLOOR IN THE STUDIOS. THIS HAPPENS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THEY DRINK, THEY, THEY DRUG ALL NIGHT. THEY MAKE NOISE, THEY KEEP EVERYBODY AWAKE. YOU CALL SECURITY. SECURITY COMES UP, THEY DO NOTHING. IT'S NOT GONNA BE FOR GUESTS ONLY. IT'S BE IT'S GONNA BE FOR THE GUESTS OF THE GUESTS AND IT'LL SIX FLAGS. I READ ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT CRIME THAT'S THERE AND SHOOTING THAT'S THERE. I DON'T KNOW, I I I, I THINK MR. SOFA, YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY YOU'RE A BILLIONAIRE AND LET THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR LITTLE INVESTMENT AND LET THEM LIVE. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL. YEAH. WELL LOOK, I THINK IT'S CLEARLY WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO HERE AND, UH, WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS. SO WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND CONTINUE IT TO THE JANUARY MEETING. BUT IF POSSIBLE, I KNOW YOU'VE ALL HAD A LONG DAY, IF THERE'S SOME COMMENT, SO WE'D ASK YOU TO, TO TAKE THAT CONTINUANCE AND GIVE US TIME TO SPEAK, TO MEET WITH SOME OF THESE FOLKS, WORK WITH STAFF AND, AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ITEMS. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE ARE SOME THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE IN THE MEANTIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL START WITH RANDY IF YOU'VE GOT, OH, RAY'S GOT A, RAY'S GOT HIS MIC ON. GO AHEAD RAY. DO YOU HAVE COMMENT FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, MY CONCERN WAS IN THE VERY BEGINNING YOU SAID YOU HAD A SUPPORT FROM ALL OF THE, UM, BUILDINGS AROUND THE FOUNTAIN BLUE. UM, AND IT CLEARLY DOESN'T SEEM THAT WAY HERE. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD'VE MADE [04:00:01] THAT STATEMENT TO START WITH. AND, AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE I WANNA BE CLEAR. SOHO HOUSE, WE MET OUR TEAM, MET WITH SOHO HOUSE, EDEN ROCK, AND THE CONDO OWNERS, SOME CONDO OWNERS WERE SUPPORTIVE. CLEARLY SOME ARE NOT. BUT THAT'S WHERE OUR OUTREACH , IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE THAT WERE SUPPORTING YOU HERE TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING IF YOU DID HAVE ANY, THAT'S MY QUESTION. AND NUMBER TWO, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN YOU REQUEST VARIANCES, VARIANCES YOU HAVE TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, A, A, A REAL NEED FOR THAT VARIANCE. UM, AND THAT, THAT IT AFFECTS YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS. THIS IS AN ADDED BUSINESS NOT AFFECTING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD. SO I I I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VARIANCES THAT YOU'RE ARE ASKING FOR. THANK YOU RAY. RANDY. YEAH, UM, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, IT'S HARD TO MEASURE ANYTHING 'CAUSE NOTHING'S TO, OR IT'S TO SCALE, BUT IT'S THE ONLY ELEVATION OF THE PROJECT ON THE BEACH. WALK FROM THE BEACH IS THIS ONE. UM, IT'S A 250 FOOT LONG WATER STRUCTURE ON THE BEACH WALK. THE TOWER IS ALMOST INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO THE, THE REST OF THE FIVE STORY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS JUST MASSIVE. UM, AND I READ, I, THIS IS THE OTHER ELEVATION THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH NOTHING IN COLOR, NO DESCRIPTION, JUST OUTLINE DRAWINGS. UH, IT IS A HUGE STRUCTURE AND REGARDLESS OF TRAFFIC, WHETHER KIDS HAVE SNOTTY NOSES OR NOT, THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS BUILDING WITH THIS PROPERTY TO ME IS JUST, I, I CAN'T GET OVER IT. I, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS COMPATIBLE. UM, REGARDLESS OF WHO'S USING IT OR HOW OFTEN THEY'RE USING IT, JUST STRUCTURALLY. AND THAT'S OUR JOB, IS TO LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY AND CONTEXT. THERE IS NO CONTEXT FOR THE STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE. THERE JUST ISN'T. SO THAT'S MY STAND HASKEL COMMENTS. I THINK ENOUGH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT IT. I'LL LET EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAK. THANKS. NO, I, I, UH, LARGELY AGREE WITH RANDY. THIS IS, UH, OUT OF CONTEXT. UH, AND QUITE FRANKLY, UH, I DON'T FIND, UH, ANY WAY TO MAKE THIS COMPATIBLE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, SOMEONE REFERENCED MOVING IT TO THE NORTH. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T, UH, UH, WHAT WAS YOUR REASONING FOR PUTTING IT RIGHT? UH, WHAT, WHERE IT'S PROPOSED, IT WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND, IF, IF YOU COULD BE ON MIC, IF YOU'RE GONNA RESPOND. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMENTS THOUGH, MITCH COMMENTS. SO I, I THINK TO ECHO ANTHONY'S POINT, IT, IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT. AND ALSO FURTHER THE KIDS PLAY AREA IS KIND OF, THAT'S WHERE IT IS NOW. SO IT WAS A NATURAL PLACE WHERE THERE'S LESS ACTIVITY ON THE SITE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT, WE'LL LOOK AT OPTIONS. IF YOU COULD SCALE IT DOWN AND PUT IT WHERE THE, OR BRING BACK THE PURPLE OCTOPUS . GREAT. ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, NO, I THINK THERE IS A LOT BEING SAID, AND I THINK 11 VARIANCES IS A LOT TO ASK. SO, UM, I THINK WE ARE CONTINUING THIS FOR A FUTURE MEETING. SO I THINK, UM, A LOT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN ORDER TO GET MORE PEOPLE AGREEING WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT. SO, UH, MY COMMENTS, WE'LL ECHO SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE UP HERE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS MISSING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME, UM, IS SEEING WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FROM THE BEACH WALK AND NOT JUST THE ONE AT THE ANGLE. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD TODAY, BUT WHATEVER YOUR ULTIMATE PROPOSAL IS, UM, BEING ABLE TO SHOW THAT AS WELL, UM, I THINK WILL DEMONSTRATE TO, UM, WHAT THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD, WHAT THIS REALLY IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. ISN'T IT POSSIBLE TO BE VOTE NOW, HAVE OPINIONS, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NICE. BUT GENERALLY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS, BUT WE, WE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DID REACH OUT. APPRECIATE IT. UM, I DID REACH OUT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF LAST WEEK AFTER WE HEARD THESE CONFIRMS, UH, CONCERNS MOUNTING. AND WHILE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE MID BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THE SHORT TIME, THERE WILL BE TIME AVAILABLE AFTER THANKSGIVING AND WE'D LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND AGAIN, WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS WE WANNA WORK ON WITH STAFF. WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED A FEW OF THE VARIANCES, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY LESS BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE REVIEWED. [04:05:01] SO WE REALLY, WE, WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, AND FUNDING INTO THIS AND WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO MAKE, TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE IT WORK. SO WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE BACK. AND THERE'S, AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS THAT'S NOT JUST THE SLIDES. IT'S AN IMPORTANT, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, REQUEST. SO WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD MOVE TO CONTINUE IT. DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A, I'M GONNA ASK YOU VERY POLITELY IF WE CAN PLEASE BE QUIET IN, IN THE CHAMBER SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH OUR PROCEDURE. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES THE MOTION IF THE APPLICATIONS CONTINUED TO THE JANUARY 13TH MEETING DATE? CERTAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU WELCOME. A QUESTION FOR STAFF. HOW MANY HAVE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT? FIVE OR FOUR. FIVE FIVE. FIVE. WELL, THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING. THANK YOU. WE REQUEST TRANSPARENCY AND ASK WHAT'S GONNA BE THE IMPACT, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO THEY HAVE? NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN, AND THAT EVERY BUILDING AND EVERY TAKES A COPY OF WHAT ARE, THAT SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT. AND THE INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDY. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT, TRY TO COORDINATE THAT. THAT IS, THAT'S THE ADVICE WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU, YOU GUYS CAN MANDATE TRAFFIC. YOU GUYS EVEN ALL SAID THERE'S DONE, YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC'S FAST. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.