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PLEASE STAND BY.WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UM, SHOULD WE START WITH ATTENDANCE? LET'S DO THAT.
UM, I'M GONNA DO A ROLL CALL FOR ATTENDANCE.
MR. BERG HERE, AND MR. PAZ IS ABSENT.
SO WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UM, FOR, UH, ANY APPLICANTS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES.
JUST SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE, YOU WILL NEED A UNANIMOUS DECISION FOR THE VARIANCE TO BE APPROVED.
ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VARIANCE, A DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL, A WAIVER ONLY REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
UM, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
UM, WITH THAT, I TURN IT BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.
[ City Attorney Updates Memorandum November 20, 2025]
DO WE HAVE ANY CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES OR, UH, NO.[1. After Action October 23, 2025]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OR DO YOU WANNA SWEAR IN THE PUBLIC FIRST? IT'S UP TO YOU.UH, WE CAN DO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF, UM, OCTOBER 23RD, 2025.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
[SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC]
ABOUT THE SWEARING IN? YEAH.UM, MADAM CHAIR, I ALSO LET MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW HOW TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY, UH, FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION, CHAMBERS AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM, UH, PLATFORM WEBINAR.
THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS A TOLL FREE NUMBER.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE.
IF THEY ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE THAT WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY, I'D LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF THE CITY'S, UH, NO, UH, LOBBYIST REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY, OR IF YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR IF YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
IF YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR EMPLOYEE REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR OBJECTOR, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST ANY ITEM OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO SWEAR IN THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE IN CHAMBERS.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING VIRTUALLY, I WILL SWEAR YOU IN AS YOU SPEAK, AS YOU ARE CALLED.
SO, UH, IF EVERYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY CAN PLEASE STAND UP, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
THANK YOU, AND PLEASE BE SEATED.
AND WITH THAT MADAM CHAIR, JUST ONE INTRODUCTION.
THIS IS JUSTIN ALEXANDER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HE'LL BE HELPING BOTH NICK AND MYSELF WHILE ON FUTURE HEARINGS.
SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU AND WELCOME JUSTIN HERE TODAY.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO DISCUSS OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON
[DISCUSSION ITEMS AND PROGRESS REPORTS]
TO THE CONTINUANCES? WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS SO WE CAN, UM, AND UNLESS ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, EXCUSE ME.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, UM, SEPTEMBER ITEM ON THE LAGOS ITEM IS GOING BEFORE COMMISSION FOR APPEAL.
WHEN IS THAT COMMISSION MEETING IN CASE ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO ATTEND? UM, I DON'T THINK THE DATE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED YET.
THEY SUBMITTED ALL THEIR APPEAL DOCUMENTS.
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SO THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROCESSED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE DATE HAS BEEN SET.WE CAN, WE CAN ADVISE YOUR WHEN THAT IS SET.
BECAUSE WE ALSO WOULD HAVE, UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BRIEFING IT, SO IT MAY NOT BE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
[2. DRB25-1100, 28 VENETIAN WAY RIGHT-OF-WAY.]
WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, UM, REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCES.UM, SO WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES ON THE AGENDA.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS A CITY APPLICATION.
IT IS FOR THE 28 VENETIAN WAY RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE CITY IS STILL WORKING ON THE PLANS FOR THIS DOCUMENT.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD A PRELIMINARY SET OF PLANS THAT THEY WERE, UH, GONNA BRING TO THE BOARD, BUT THEY'RE STILL REVISING.
THEY'RE GONNA REVISE THOSE PLANS AGAIN.
SO THEY REQUESTED ANOTHER CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER MEETING.
UM, THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 11TH, I BELIEVE.
UM, IF I CAN, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, THEN MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
D RRB 25 DASH 1,120 A VENETIAN WAY.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
[3. DRB25-1088, 6945 Abbott Avenue.]
THE NEXT ITEM THAT'S BEING REQUESTED FOR CONTINUANCE, UM, IS, UM, IT'S ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA, UM, ON THE ONLINE AGENDA.IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED TO REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCES.
THAT'S, UH, DRB 25 DASH 10 88, 69 45 ABBOTT AVENUE.
THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
THERE WERE SOME OPERATIONAL, UH, CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE BOARD.
THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND PARKING DEPARTMENTS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON, UH, FINALIZING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO WHAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD LAST MONTH.
UM, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE ISSUES TO BE, UH, TO BE, UH, FINALIZED AND FOR THE TRANSPORTATION MEMO TO BE FINALIZED TILL WHEN.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE DECEMBER 11TH.
UM, THE CITY'S REQUESTING THAT THE CITY'S REQUESTING THAT IT BE CONTINUED AND THE APPLICANT'S, UM, OKAY WITH THAT, MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE DRB 25 DASH 10 88, 69 45 RAPID AVENUE.
I ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE US AS A BOARD, UH, DIRECTION AS TO WHAT, UM, WAS APPROVED IN THE REFERENDUM FOR NORTH BEACH AS FAR AS THE CODE.
SO THAT WHEN WE GET FUTURE PROJECTS IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA, WE KNOW WHAT TO, WHAT TO, UH, WHAT PERTAINS TO US AND WHAT DOES NOT, WHAT CAN BE.
WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.
I'LL SECOND YOUR, I APOLOGIZE.
[4. DRB25-1087 a.k.a DRB24-1026, 94 PALM AVENUE. ]
NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, CONTINUED ITEMS DRB 25 187 94 PALM AVENUE.THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY RESIDENCE WITH AN UNDERSTORY.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE VARIANCES TO PROVIDE AN ENCLOSED AIR CONDITIONING STORAGE AREA WITHIN THE UNDERSTORY TO PROVIDE CONCRETE AREAS WITHIN THE UNDERSTORY TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED LOAD COVERAGE FOR HEIGHT, AN INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK FOR AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WITH A SCREENING WITH THE INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK, AND TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR AN ELEVATOR BULKHEAD, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAVES TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.
OKAY, SO THIS, UM, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS, UM, DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD ORIGINALLY IN, UH, ON JUNE 12TH, 2025.
AT THAT MEETING, THE, THE, UH, THE DRB UM, APPROVED ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THAT WAS A VARIANCE RELATED TO THE HEIGHT AND OF, UH, SCREENING AND MECHANICAL MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN THE SIDE YARD.
UM, SO THE, THE BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THAT VARIANCE.
UM, THE REST OF THE APPLICATION, THE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL, UM, UM, WHICH INCLUDES SOME WAIVERS AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER VARIANCES, WAS CONTINUED, UM, TO A FUTURE MEETING, UM, TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS PURSUANT TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HEARD AT THE, UH, JUNE MEETING FROM THE DRB, AND THEY WANTED TO REVISE THEIR REQ VARIANCE REQUESTS.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT, UM, SO THE ITEM WAS RENO, UM, WITH AN ADDITIONAL VARIANCE REQUEST.
THAT VARIANCE REQUEST THAT, UH, THAT IS BEING ADDED WAS TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR AN ELEVATOR BULKHEAD.
UM, SO AS AN UPDATE, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED SOME REVISED PLANS.
UM, THE REVISED PLANS INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
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THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS MADE SOME REVISIONS.UM, SO FOR VARIANCE NUMBER ONE, REGARDING THE ENCLOSED AIR CONDITION SPACE AND THE UNDERSTORY, UM, THEY HAVE, UH, CLARIFIED THEIR REQUEST TO IDENTIFY THE UTILITIES THAT WILL BE LOCATED IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA.
THAT INCLUDES A WATER HEATER, A WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM, CISTERNS AND AIR CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT.
THE BOARD REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON WHAT WOULD BE, UH, LOCATED IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA.
SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT, AND THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE DEMONSTRATING THAT IN THE PLANS.
UM, REGARDS TO VARIANCE NUMBER TWO, THAT WAS RELATED TO ALLOWING FOR CONCRETE, UM, IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA, UH, LAST MONTH, THE BOARD HAD A DISCUSSION, UH, AND RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, THE CODE BE AMENDED TO, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS FOR CONCRETE GRIDS IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA, PROVIDED THAT PERMEABILITY IS MAINTAINED, UM, THAT IS BEING TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
BUT, BUT THAT HAS THAT, THAT THAT'LL TAKE SOME TIME BEFORE IT CAN BE ADOPTED.
UM, BUT THE VARIANCE NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN REVISED.
SO ORIGINALLY THEY WERE JUST PROPOSING A FULL CONCRETE SLAB IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA, UM, WHERE PAVER SET AND STANDARD REQUIRED.
THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THAT REQUEST, UM, TO UTILIZE A REINFORCED CONCRETE GRID SYSTEM, UM, WHICH MAINTAINS THE STABILITY THAT THEY'RE SEEKING, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE GROUND DOESN'T, UH, SAG AND THAT THERE'S NO MOVEMENT.
HOWEVER, IT STILL CONTINUES TO ALLOW PERMEABILITY.
SO THERE WILL BE CONCRETE STRIPS ESSENTIALLY WITH OPENINGS IN BETWEEN THAT ALLOWS, UM, MAINTAINING THOSE PAVERS, BUT STILL ALLOW WATER TO PERCOLATE UNDERNEATH.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED A REQUEST, UH, CONSISTENT WITH ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, WITH, WITH ALLOWING THE WATER TO PERCOLATE, BUT STILL MAINTAINING THE STABILITY.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, THE THIRD CHANGE IS A NEW VARIANCE REQUEST, UM, WHICH IS TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE ELEVATOR BULKHEAD, UH, TO ALLOW FOR A LARGER ELEVATOR TO BE INSTALLED.
UM, GIVEN THE SCALE OF THE HOME, UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A THREE FOOT VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE MOST THAT, THAT THE BOARD COULD APPROVE IS THREE FEET.
UM, IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER ELEVATOR BULKHEAD, THE CODE CURRENTLY ALLOWS ELEVATOR BULKHEADS OF 10 FEET.
UM, THE ELEVATOR SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR A HOUSE OF THIS SCALE, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN THAT.
UM, GIVEN THE SCALE OF THE HOME, UM, AND THE NEEDS TO HAVE AN ELEVATOR FOR, FOR A HOME OF THIS SCALE, UH, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THAT VARIANCE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED, UH, VARIANCES.
AND BEFORE WE START, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTY, UH, DISCLOSURES, UH, FROM THE BOARD? NO.
MATT AMSTER WITH THE LMAN BURKE, HOWELL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN AND TAPIS OFFICE IS AT 200 SOUTHWEST GAIN BOULEVARD IN MIAMI HERE TODAY REPRESENTING PALM ISLAND RESIDENCE TRUST, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AT 94 PALM AVENUE.
UH, WITH ME TODAY, RONALDO ORES, UM, ARCHITECT, UM, FROM HIS FIRM, AMELIA GARCIA.
AND WE HAVE, UH, THREE EXPERTS TO, UH, THAT HAVE GIVEN US ASSISTANCE TO HELP US, UM, FLESH OUT THESE DETAILS, UH, OF THIS HOME.
UM, I HAVE, UH, CAITLIN SU SUAREZ FOR THE AWNING SYSTEM.
UH, SAJU VARS, UM, IS OUR PROJECT ENGINEER.
AND MARCO OSORIO, UM, IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, UM, HELPING US WITH OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE STORM WATER SYSTEM.
UH, THIS IS AN ALREADY APPROVED PROJECT AND IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY, AND THESE ARE JUST ITEMS THAT, UH, HAVE COME UP IN NEEDING TO FLESH OUT THE FINAL DESIGNS OF THE HOME.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RONALDO.
GOOD MORNING BOARD, FERNANDO BO WITH BO, HIS ARCHITECTS AT, UH, 2 37 SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY, REPRESENTING THE OWNERS HERE.
AND, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UH, REMINDER OF, OF THE PROJECT.
WAIT A SECOND, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? OH, OKAY.
IF YOU COULD CALL UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
SO, YES, UH, AS, UM, NOTED, THE PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE DRB, UM, MANY MONTHS AGO.
AND WE GOT, UH, APPROVAL BASICALLY FOR WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE TIME, UM, WITH, WITH VERY FEW CONDITIONS.
IT'S A WATERFRONT UNDERSTORY DESIGN, UH, TAKING FULL BENEFIT OF BISCAYNE BAY AND THE BEAUTY OF THE CONTEXT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE HOUSES RAISED UP TO 16 FEET WITH AN UNDERSTORY CONDITION, WHICH IS, AS YOU KNOW, DESIGNED TO FLOOD AND ALLOW FOR THE, THE WATER TO, TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE GROUND, INTO THE SYSTEM OF DRAINAGE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AMENITIES.
I MEAN, REALLY THIS HOME IS, IS FULL OF, UH, FEATURES AND, AND EXCITING AMENITIES FOR THE OWNERS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE UNDERSTORY, THE KIND OF VIEW THAT YOU GET OF BISCAYNE BAY.
WE'RE FULLY UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THE ZONING AND, AND, UM, MIAMI BEACH ALLOWS US TO BRING IN SUNKEN AREAS, YOU KNOW, UH, TREATMENT POOLS, UM, IN THE CONTEXT OF PALM ISLAND AT 94 PALM.
SO THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AS AS IT
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WAS APPROVED.UM, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE NEW VARIATIONS OF THESE SITE PLANS WITH THE MINOR CONDITIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE AS OUR ARCHITECTS, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING AT RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY IN THESE HOMES.
AND THIS IS KIND OF STATE OF THE ART BECAUSE IT'S LEAD GOLD CERTIFIED IS WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR.
WE HAVE A FULLY INTEGRATED SOLAR SYSTEM THAT IS GENERATING SOLAR POWER INTEGRATED WITH A VERY SOPHISTICATED BATTERY SYSTEM.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT REALLY HAS EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO TO, UH, BRING SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY TO A HOME OF THIS SCALE IN THIS CONTEXT.
SO THE FIRST ITEM IS REALLY, UH, TO ALLOW US TO AIR CONDITION THESE SPACES UNDER THE HOUSE, WHICH IS ONE, PRIMARILY AN EQUIPMENT AREA WITH SENSIBLE, UM, ELECTRONICS.
AND OUR ENGINEERS HERE TO REPRESENT THE CONCERN THERE.
THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THE HUMIDITY IN THESE SPACES IS TO REALLY AIR CONDITION THEM, AND IT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE DOING IT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, MY CLIENT HAS A CAR COLLECTION.
SO ON THE PARKING AREA, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AIR CONDITION THAT ENVIRONMENT.
SO THOSE CARS ARE IN A HAPPY AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENT, REMOVING, YOU KNOW, HUMIDITY AND THE SALTY ENVIRONMENT.
I WANNA SAY THERE, THERE'S A CALCULATION HERE IN RED THAT REMINDS US THAT WE ARE ALLOWED UP TO 3%, UH, OF ENCLOSED AREA IN THE UNDERSTORY, WHICH WOULD BE OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET.
THE AREA NOTED HERE IS ONLY ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT IT'S A UTILITARIAN SPACE.
IT'S REALLY NOT PART OF THAT, UM, VESTIBULE THAT WE HAVE IN THE UNDERSTORY THAT ALLOWS YOU THEN TO TRAVEL UP TO THE HOUSE.
BUT, UM, THIS IS NOT REALLY INCREASING ANY OF THE AREAS.
IT'S JUST ALLOWING US TO HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT IS BETTER PROTECTED.
THIS EXHIBIT HERE KIND OF SHOWS YOU WORLD-CLASS WATER FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT IS REALLY STATE OF THE ART, HAS A LOT OF SENSITIVE EQUIPMENT AND ELECTRONICS.
WE HAVE PUMPS AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONTROL SYSTEMS FOR THE, UM, THE SMART HOME INTEGRATION, UH, IN THE HOUSE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS SPACE IS PRIMARILY FOR THAT, RIGHT? UH, WE MAY STORE A FEW BICYCLES, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THEY DO HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S AN EQUIPMENT MECHANICAL SPACE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO AIR CONDITION.
UH, JUST TO REMIND YOU, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ALLOWS US TO AIR CONDITION.
THIS SPACE IS PRIMARILY A ZONING SENSIBILITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO AVOID THESE SPACES BECOMING HABITABLE IN THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN THAT ZONING HAS WITH AIR CONDITIONING THESE SPACES.
AND I DO HAVE SAJU HERE WITH US WHO'S OUR WORLD CLASS ENGINEER, THAT HAS HELPED US ENGINEER AND INTEGRATE ALL THE SYSTEMS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE COULD DO IT NOW, WE COULD DO IT AFTER.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE FINISHED THE FOUR ITEMS. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY EASIEST AS WE GO THROUGH AND HAVE DISCUSSION AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
SO ALL THIS AREA IN PINK IS AN AREA THAT IS PAVED WITH THE PREVIOUS PAVER SYSTEM, BUT WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WHEN THAT PAVING SYSTEM COMES UP TO HEART STRUCTURE THAT'S ENGINEERED WITH PILES AND VERY, VERY STABLE, THAT THERE WILL BE SOME DISTORTION OF THOSE PAVERS IN A HOUSE OF THIS VALUE.
WE WANTED TO INSTALL THOSE PAVERS IN A STRUCTURED SLAB.
UM, THAT HAS EVOLVED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE LEARNING 'CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION AND, AND LOOKING AT GREAT IDEAS.
THIS IS THE CONCERN, RIGHT? THAT, THAT THIS PAVER, EVEN IF IT'S WELL PACKED AND SO ON, IT TENDS TO DISTORT AND FAIL.
THIS IS ACTUALLY AN IMAGE AT THE, UH, WORLD CLASS PARIS MUSEUM THAT YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PAVING SYSTEM IS FAILING ALREADY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN, RIGHT? UH, SO WHAT WE DID, UH, IN THE LEARNING HERE AND EVOLVING THIS IDEA IS THAT THAT SLAB THAT WE'RE STRUCTURING IS ALSO PERFORATED UP TO 25% OF THE SLAB.
SO IT STILL BEHAVES AND ACTS AS A FILTRATION SYSTEM FOR THE WATER THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD ACCUMULATE.
UH, THE SITE IS DESIGNED WITH, UM, A 35,000 GALLON CISTERN THAT YOU SEE HERE IN ORANGE.
THAT CISTERN IS CAPTURING ALL THE WATER IN ON THE SITE TO IRRIGATE THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE.
AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH 35,000 GALLON CAPACITY.
UH, IN RED, YOU SEE TWO RECTANGLES THAT REPRESENT DEEP WELLS.
AND IN THESE SITES, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GO TO DEEP WELLS SO THAT REALLY WE COULD ABSORB ALL THIS WATER AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T ACCUMULATE ON SITE.
UH, MICROSO, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT REALLY THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS VERY ROBUST AND VERY REDUNDANT AND, AND SPLENDID.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT OF WATER ACCUMULATION HERE AT ALL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN, THERE'S A LOT OF ABSORPTION.
THE SITE REALLY, UM, TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO FROM A RESILIENCY POINT OF VIEW, THE ONLY KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK FLOODING WE WILL HAVE HERE IF WE HAVE A STORM SURGE IN A CATEGORY SIX EVENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT KIND OF BRINGS THE STORM SURGE EVENTS INTO THIS.
OTHERWISE, THE TYPICAL RAIN EVENTS ARE GONNA BE CAPTURED BY THE SYSTEM PRETTY WELL.
UM, AND THERE'S NO CONCERN ON OUR SIDE FROM A DRAINAGE POINT OF VIEW THAT THAT STRUCTURE SLAB THAT I'M SHOWING HERE WITH THE PERFORATIONS WOULD COST ANY ISSUE, BUT IT WILL ALLOW US TO STABILIZE THOSE PAVERS AND AVOID ANY KIND OF DISTORTION AND ANY, UH,
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PAVING FAILURE IN THE HOUSE IN THE FUTURE.UM, AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE THE DRAINAGE, UH, SOLUTIONS.
THE THIRD VARIANCE IS KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THE HOUSE, UH, THESE HOUSE ON THE EDGE OF WATER ALWAYS BECOME A PLACE WHERE HAVING, YOU KNOW, FAMILY AND FRIENDS, UM, AND THEY DO A LOT OF FUNDRAISING FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS COULD COME AND ENJOY THIS TERRACE THAT IS PARALLEL TO THE, UM, THE SPACES INSIDE THE HOUSE THAT ARE COMMON AREA AND SORT OF FESTIVE LIVING AREAS HAVE THIS LAYERED TRELLIS SYSTEM.
THIS TRELLIS SYSTEM IS ALREADY OVER A CANOPY THAT IS PROTECTING THE UNDERSTORY.
SO IN, IN A WAY, THE CODE, UM, IS KIND OF REDUNDANT THE WAY IT LOOKS AT LOT COVERAGE.
THIS DIAGRAM HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PORTION OVER HERE, WHERE THE CANOPY IS, THE RED LINES REPRESENT THE AREA THAT WE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE, UH, CALCULATIONS.
AND THE BLUE AREA IS THE AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IN QUESTION HERE.
AND WHAT BRINGS IT IN QUESTION IS THAT, UM, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS DETERMINED THAT IF WE USE A SYSTEM LIKE THIS, WHICH IS AN ALUMINUM FOLDING SYSTEM THAT IS VERY DURABLE AND VERY RESILIENT, IT HAS A, A SORT OF A MORE PERMANENT NATURE TO IT.
AND IF WE USE ONE LIKE THIS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS A CANVAS SOFTER ELEMENT THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRIMARILY THE MATERIALITY OF THE PORTION OF THE TRELLIS THAT RETRACTS THAT IS IN QUESTION, RIGHT? IT'S NOT THE STRUCTURING, IT'S NOT THE SHADING SYSTEM.
IT'S PRIMARILY THE NATURE OF THIS IS ALUMINUM VERSUS THE FABRIC.
THE DETAIL CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS A PROJECT HERE DOWN COLLINS AVENUE.
YOU SEE, YOU HAVE THE FABRIC SYSTEM AND YOU SEE THE, THE CONCERN OF DURABILITY AND, AND THE WAY IT WEARS LONG TERM.
WE WANT TO AVOID THAT IN HOUSE OF THIS VALUE, YOU KNOW, SO WE REALLY, UM, I TRY TO CHANGE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S MIND, BUT HE WAS PRETTY PERSISTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONNA KEEP HIS POSITION, THAT ONLY THE FABRIC WOULD NOT COUNT AND THE ALUMINUM WOULD COUNT.
THIS IS A DETAIL HERE OF BOTH CONDITIONS ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE, UH, RETRACTABLE ALUMINUM SYSTEM ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE FABRIC, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COLLECTION IS MORE OR LESS THE SAME.
IT BEHAVES THE SAME, IT LOOKS THE SAME EXCEPT ONE IS MORE DURABLE AND I THINK WILL PERFORM BETTER IN A HOUSE OF THIS QUALITY THAN THE OTHER.
SO THAT IS THIS ITEM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS AGREEING WITH US.
THIS WILL MAKE A BETTER PROJECT, A MORE DURABLE PROJECT, UH, MORE RESILIENT PROJECT, AND A HAPPIER CLIENT FOR ME AS WELL.
SO, UM, AS WE VENTURE INTO THE BULKHEAD ISSUE IN THESE HOMES, WHEN WE TRY TO FIT IN A WORLD CLASS, UH, RESIDENTIAL ELEVATOR, NONE OF THEM REALLY HAVE THE RIGHT SIZE, RIGHT? THEY'RE VERY, VERY TIGHT, VERY COMPRESSED.
SO THE ONLY WAY TO KIND OF ENLARGE THE CAB AND THE ELEVATOR EXPERIENCE IS TO GO TO THIS TYPE OF ELEVATOR THAT REQUIRES THIS BULKHEAD THAT IS A THREE FOOT BULKHEAD.
AND YOU KIND OF SEE IT HERE IN THE SECTION.
YOU SEE, IT'S, WE CENTERED IT ON THE MASS OF THE HOUSE, REALLY TO PRE PREVENT, YOU KNOW, BEING PERCEIVED, UH, FROM THE STREET AND SO ON.
SO EVEN IN THIS IMAGE HERE, YOU COULD SEE THAT WE HAVE A PALM TREE RIGHT AROUND HERE THAT IS STRATEGICALLY PLACED TO KIND OF ELIMINATE ANY PERCEPTION OF THAT.
UM, VOLUMETRIC, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HERE WITHOUT THE, THE, THE PALM TREE, YOU SEE THAT THE BULKHEAD IS MINIMAL.
THE IMPACT, THE VISUAL IMPACT IS MINIMAL.
AND, AND THIS HAS BECOME SOMETHING THAT MOST OF THESE LARGER HOMES ARE REQUIRING NOW.
SO I, I THINK THAT THE CODE MAY BE, UH, ALLOWING THIS AS OF RIGHT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, YOU KIND OF SEE HERE IN THIS THREE DIMENSIONAL VIEW, IT'S A MINOR, YOU KNOW, BULKHEAD ELEMENT.
UM, AND WE REQUEST THAT AS A VARIANCE.
UM, IN TERMS OF OVERALL PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 16 DIFFERENT SPECIALTY CONSULTANTS IN THIS PROJECT.
THIS HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT SPECIALTY ITEMS, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SUBMIT FOR PERMITS, JUST WAITING FOR HOPEFULLY THESE VARIANCE BEING APPROVED TODAY SO THAT WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE URGENCY, THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD.
UM, AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE IT FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
JUST A FEW, UH, FOR MORE REMARKS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THIS, AGAIN, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS PERMIT, WHICH WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF, UH, PUTTING IN YOU, YOU GET ALL THESE DISCIPLINES AND ENGINEERS, UH, LOOKING AT THE FINE DETAILS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A STRICT APPLICATION OF THE CODE, UH, IS WE'RE NOW REQUIRING THESE VARIANCES.
BUT I THINK AS, AS RONALDO AND OUR PLANS ARE SHOWING, UM, THERE ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH, UH, PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, THAT AGAIN, STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE CODE, WHERE THESE ESSENTIALLY ARE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF MEETING THE INTENT OF THE CODE THAT WE HAVE, UH, EXTENSIVE STORM WATER DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT, UH, THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVED THROUGH THE PERVIOUS, UH, SYSTEM,
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UH, EVEN WITH THE CISTERN, WHICH ALSO, YOU KNOW, HELPS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF EVEN THE LOT COVERAGE.YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A CISTERN.
WE ARE, UH, ADDING THAT, UH, TO ASSIST WITH OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM, UH, UH, AND, UH, THEREFORE BEING VERY EFFECTIVE.
THE ENTIRE OF THIS UNDERSTORY IS ALL, UH, WET FLOOD PROOFED AND, UH, EXTENDS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ENC CLOSING AREAS, AS RONALDO SAID, WE HAVE, UH, BASICALLY THE, WE'RE WITHIN THE MAXIMUM THAT YOU COULD HAVE FOR ACCESS.
WE'RE JUST USING IT FOR THESE, UH, SELECT EQUIPMENT PROTECTION FOR THE LONG TERM.
UH, AND THIS IS A VERY LARGE LOT.
IT'S BASICALLY A DOUBLE LOT, UH, IN RS ONE.
UH, AND SO FROM A STANDPOINT, CERTAINLY FOR THE ELEVATOR, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON RS ONE LOTS, UH, HAVE, UH, BEEN GRANTED THAT SAME ELEVATOR, UH, VARIANCE FOR THE HEIGHT.
IT'S VERY CENTRALLY LOCATED, HARDLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ONLINE? IF ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
NOBODY ONLINE WITH THEIR HAND IS EXCELLENT.
SO I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO DISCUSS, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VARIANCES FOR STAFF? ADAM, DO YOU WANNA START? SURE.
UM, UH, UM, STARTING AT THE, THE PAPERS, WHAT MATERIAL IS YOUR PAVER AGAIN? WELL, IT'S A CONCRETE, UM, PERVIOUS PAVER SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY, UH, LIGHT COLOR SCHEME.
UM, NOT A BIG FOUR INCH THICK SLAB OF STONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WHY ARE THERE, THIS IS SOMETHING I NOTICED.
WHY ARE YOU PUTTING THE PAVER SUPPORTS UNDER THE STORAGE AREA IF THAT'S PERVIOUS, BUT, BUT, BUT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO AIR CONDITION IT.
SO THE CONCERN, UH, ADAM, IS THAT WHEN THAT PERVIOUS PAVER COMES UP TO THE EDGE OF ALL THE STRUCTURE POOLS THAT KIND OF COME INTO THE UNDERSIDE, WHICH IS STRUCTURED ON PILES AND ALL THAT, RIGHT? THE PAVERS COULD DISTORT, THEY COULD SETTLE AND CREATE THAT KIND OF DISTORTION THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN THESE IMAGES.
SO BY PUTTING THAT SLAB RIGHT, WHICH IS, NO, NO, SORRY, LEMME CLICK IN THE STORAGE AREA, THE MECHANICAL ROOM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WE WANT TO AIR CONDITION.
YOU'RE SHOWING THE SAME GRID STRUCTURE UNDER THAT.
'CAUSE THAT AREA ALSO HAS TO HAVE PERVIOUS PAVERS.
UM, SO WE WANNA STABILIZE THEM OVER THE PERVIOUS SLAB, UH, TO, TO MAKE MORE STABLE THAT INSTALLATION OF, OF THE PERVIOUS SYSTEM.
SO THE, THE, THE MECHANICAL ROOM THAT WOULD WANT TO AIR CONDITION, WHICH I AM ALL FOR, TO KEEP THE EQUIPMENT, IS GONNA BE PERVIOUS.
SO IT WILL LET HUMIDITY UP FROM THE GROUND.
THAT ENTIRE UNDERSTORY IS ALLOWED TO FLOOD, RIGHT? IN AN EXTREME EVENT.
SO THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING IS SORT OF INTENDED TO BE PERVIOUS TO ABSORB THAT WATER.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE LETTING MOISTURE UP.
WHY, WHY WOULDN'T THAT BE A SLAB? BUT IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE, IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE A SLAB UNDERNEATH THERE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
EVERYTHING THERE IS REQUIRED TO BE A PERVIOUS PAVING SYSTEM.
I JUST NOTICED THAT IT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT YEAH, LOOK, I MEAN, THE CODE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THE CODE IS NOT PERFECT, AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE PERFECT THE CODE BY HAVING THESE MINOR VARIANCES.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PUTTING THIS EQUIP.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO ON A FLOOD? IS THIS EQUIPMENT ALL GONNA BE RUINED IF IT FLOOD, IF THE WATER COMES UP? NO.
ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, CANNOT FLOOD IS RAISED AT FEMA PLUS ONE ON PEDESTALS INSIDE THE ROOM.
SO THE, THE, THE, THE LEVEL OF THE ROOM ITSELF, THE PAVING IS BELOW FEMA, BUT ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS ALL ABOVE FEMA.
SO EVEN IF IT GETS FLOODED, THE EQUIPMENT IS SAFE.
I JUST, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO, UM, I'M TRYING TO JUSTIFY THIS ENCLOSED ROOM THAT'S AIR CONDITIONING, YET IT'S NOT WATERTIGHT WITH THIS EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT IN IT.
AND IT'S NOT HUMIDITY FREE EITHER, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT DO YOU RIGHT.
SO IF I DON'T AIR CONDITION IT, THEN I'M NOT CONTROLLING THE HUMIDITY AND I GOT A CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT.
SO THAT'S, NO, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
BUT, BUT IF YOU COULD SEE, FOLLOW ME FOR A MINUTE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE DOING PERVIOUS PAVERS UNDER IT, ISN'T HUMIDITY GONNA COME INTO THAT ROOM ANYWAY? WELL, THERE'LL BE FLOODING EVENTS THAT MAY COMPROMISE, YOU KNOW, THAT PAVING SYSTEM INSIDE THAT ROOM, RIGHT? UH, IT WAS, BUT THE ROOM'S NOT INSULATE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, YOU DON'T AIR CONDITIONING, YOU DON'T AIR CONDITION A ROOM WITHOUT INSULATING IT AND NOT MAKING IT DRAFTY TO THE OUTSIDE.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE YOU CREATE HUMIDITY AND YOU HAVE AN ISSUE ANYWAY.
SO, SO LIKE, IT SHOULD EITHER BE, LIKE, TO ME IT SHOULD BE EITHER BE LIKE AN INTERIOR ROOM,
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AIR PROOF, UH, AND WATERPROOF AND, AND INSULATED, OR IT'S GOTTA BE LIKE AN OUTSIDE GARAGE KIND OF DEAL.SO LIKE WHAT, SCOTT, I MEAN THIS IS, THAT'S MY ISSUE.
IF I INTERRUPT, IF THIS IS FOR ME, WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE, AND, AND, UM, ROGELIO, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO HAVE YOU CRACK, BUT I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE OPPRESSION THAT THESE UNDERST STORIES ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO NOT BE HABITABLE AREAS SO THAT THE HOMES, SO THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING ALL OF THESE THREE STORY HOMES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THEY ARE JUST FOR, UM, FLOODING PROTECTION.
AND FOR ME, MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS YOU'RE WORKING WITH A 29,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
I AM QUESTIONING WHY YOU COULDN'T FIND SPACE IN THE AIR CONDITIONED PART OF THE STRUCTURE TO NOT HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT.
WHY DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL AIR CONDITIONED SPACE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT, THAT IT GOES AGAINST THE CODE? I THINK WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WRAPPING OUR HEAD AROUND THIS CONDITION THAT YOU'RE CREATING, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T REALLY WHAT THE CODE IS SPECIFYING.
SO I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THESE AR AREAS AREN'T AIR CONDITIONED.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HABITABLE.
AND MY CONCERN TOO, I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, YOU'RE CREATING THIS AIR CONDITIONED ROOM FOR THIS EQUIPMENT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LARGE SPACE.
THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THAT ROOM FROM BECOMING HABITABLE AT ANY POINT.
MAYBE NOT EVEN WITH THIS, UM, RESIDENT, BUT MAYBE THE NEXT ONE OR THE NEXT ONE.
FOR ME, THIS IS A PRECEDENT THAT I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SET.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
LET ME CLARIFY A FEW THINGS, UH, SARAH.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A PERCEPTION, UM MM-HMM.
ISSUE HERE, RIGHT? SO THAT ROOM, AS I STATED BEFORE, IS ALLOWED TO EXIST AS A STORAGE ROOM.
IF I'M NOT AIR CONDITIONING, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
JUST REMOVE THE AIR CONDITIONING.
NOW, WHAT WE LEARNED, 'CAUSE WE'RE ARCHITECTS IN THE TROPICS, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, THAT EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE SENSITIVE, UH, EQUIPMENT IN THERE, IF I JUST STORE BIKES AND, UM, THINGS TO TAKE OUT ON THE BOAT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT PEOPLE DO IN THESE UNDERST STORIES, THAT'S ALLOWED, RIGHT? THERE'S NO, NO, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I COULD PUT ALL KINDS OF STUFF, I COULD PUT MY LIFE JACKETS FOR MY JET SKIS, ALL THAT STUFF.
IF ALL THAT STORED IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS IS NOT AN AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, EVENTUALLY IT GETS MOLD.
NOW, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE HOMES WITH UN-AIR CONDITIONED GARAGES AND STORAGE SPACES.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THESE SPACES, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ALLOWS ME TO AIR CONDITION.
IN FACT, I SPOKE TO
BY THE WAY, THE HOUSE THAT IS THERE NOW IS PRIMARILY GETTING DEMOLISHED BECAUSE IT HAD A CRAWL AREA THAT GOT INVADED BY MOLD SIGNIFICANTLY AND WAS MAKING OUR CLIENTS SICK.
SO MOLD IS A BIG CONCERN IN THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE KIND OF EXPERIENCES IN SOUTH FLORIDA, YOU NEVER FORGET.
RIGHT? AND MOLD IS VERY PERSISTENT, BUT WHAT MAKES IT THRIVE IS SORT OF UNCONDITIONED HOT, HUMID ENVIRONMENTS LIKE THIS.
SO THE ONLY WAY THAT I ELIMINATE THAT IS BY PUTTING A SIMPLE WALL-MOUNTED AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM, AND EVERY OTHER EQUIPMENT INSIDE THIS ROOM IS ALL ELEVATED.
SO THE ROOM DOES FLOOD BECAUSE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, UH, REQUIRES THAT THAT ROOM IS FLOATABLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I NEED TO ALLOW THE FLOOD WATERS TO GET IN THERE AND NOT RESIST THE FLOODING OF THAT SPACE.
IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE ANYTHING MORE THAN, UH, A FEW INCHES OF, OF FLOOD WATERS GETTING IN THERE.
SO ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS A FEMA PLUS ONE.
SO EVERYTHING IS RACED ON PEDESTALS.
SO NONE OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE DAMAGED IF I DO GET A FLOOD EVENT THAT INVADES THAT SPACE.
AND THAT'S REALLY AN EXTREME EVENT.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A STORM SURGE EVENT.
UM, BUT NOTHING IS GONNA BE DAMAGED, WHICH IS THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SAKE OF OF TIME, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS ALL VERY CLEAR AND THAT EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN SOUTH FLORIDA WANTS MORE AIR CONDITIONED STORAGE SPACE TO PROTECT THEIR VALUABLES.
MY CONCERN, AND I'D LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CITY STAFF TO ADDRESS IT, IS TO REVIEW WHY, YOU KNOW, THE CODE SAYS THAT THESE CAN'T BE AIR CONDITIONED.
AND I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS AN EXCEPTION TO A VERY CLEAR IN MY MIND RULE.
RIGHT? WHY ARE WE GRANTING IT TO YOU? WHAT'S SO SPECIAL ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I, FOR ME, WHEN YOU HAVE A HOME THAT'S 29,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE A HARDSHIP, MOLD AND HUMIDITY IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES HERE HAS TO NAVIGATE AROUND.
SO THAT'S, SO IF, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHAT THE INTENT IS THERE.
THE, THE INTENT IS JUST THAT, THAT WE DO NOT GET HABITABLE SPACES, UM, IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE HANGING OUT INSIDE AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE AIR CONDITIONING.
THE, THE IDEA IS THAT THIS BE AN OUTDOOR
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SPACE FOR, FOR RESIDENTS TO ENJOY.SO WHEN THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR NO AIR CONDITIONING WAS PUT IN PLACE, IT WAS IN INTENDED FOR THAT PURPOSE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE HANGING OUT INDOORS IN AIR CONDITIONING IN THE UNDERSTORY AREA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ENTRANCE VESTIBULE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE HOME, THAT AREA IS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED TO BE AIR CONDITIONED.
UM, IN THIS CASE, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE INCLUDING A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, YOUR TYPICAL HOME WON'T HAVE, SUCH AS THE, UH, WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM.
AND THESE, THESE OTHER TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU GENERALLY DON'T INCLUDE IN, UH, IN, UH, IN YOUR TYPICAL HOME.
AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, THOSE ARE CHOICES THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS MAKING TO ADD.
I, I WOULD SAY LIKE MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS PRECEDENT.
AND I HATE WHEN PEOPLE TELL US WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT PRECEDENT IN THIS CASE.
I HAVE NO DOUBT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS FOR WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.
BUT IN SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE 29,000 SQUARE FEET AND SOMEONE THAT'S DOING A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE WITH AN UNDERSTORY AND SAYS, WELL, I WANT TO DO A 800 SQUARE FOOT ENCLOSURE AND PUT EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND AIR CONDITIONING IT, WE ALL KNOW, LIKE IN THE KEYS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE IT THAT UNDERSTORY.
BUT EVERYBODY WALLS IT IN AND AIR CONDITIONS IT.
AND WHAT'S TO STOP PEOPLE FROM MAKING THAT ANOTHER ROOM? SO OF COURSE, WHEN YOU BUILD AN UNDERSTORY WITH A GARAGE, YOU'RE LIKE, OR A STORAGE AREA, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT.
I THINK PEOPLE WILL FORWARD GO, THIS IS GONNA BE A ROOM.
THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE SO INSANELY ENORMOUS TO REGULAR PEOPLE, WE REALIZE THAT THE CODE IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THESE HUGE HOUSES.
SO THAT THAT'S THE SAME ISSUE WE'RE HAVING WITH THE PAVERS UNDERNEATH THE CODE'S, ALLOWING CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THEN IT'S NOT BEING PRACTICAL MM-HMM
IN SAYING, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I HAVE KIND OF AN ISSUE WITH NOT, NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, RONALDO, I, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE GOING FORWARD AND, AND MAYBE CLARIFYING THIS BECAUSE MM-HMM
SO IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT AND MADE LIKE A HANGING ROOM THAT DOESN'T HAVE, UH, IT'S NOT CLEARLY NOT ABLE TO BE TURNED INTO A BEDROOM.
UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
AND, AND I GUESS EVERYONE IS, YOU GOTTA, WE GOTTA ASK THE QUESTION, WHY CAN'T YOU FIT THIS EQUIPMENT INSIDE SOMEWHERE? THIS PLACE IS HUGE.
CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS ALL OUR QUESTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
YOUR FIRST VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, THE AIR CONDITIONING OF THE STORAGE AREA AND THE UNDERSTORY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A WATER PURIFIER, A WATER HEATER, AND THE AC UNITS, UM, THE WATER HEATER IS ELECTRIC, I ASSUME? YES.
AND THE AC UNITS THAT YOU HAVE THERE, ARE THEY THE CONDENSING UNITS OR THE BLOWERS? NO, THE YEAR HANDLERS THEMSELVES.
THE CONDENSING UNITS ARE OUTSIDE, WHICH NORMALLY ARE INSIDE AN AIR CONDITIONED HOME.
AND DO YOU ALSO HAVE A GENERATOR DOWN THERE? THE GENERATOR IS IN THE MECHANICAL FORM THAT WE GOT THE VARI THE FIRST VARIANCE THAT WE GOT.
THAT, THAT WAS TO KIND OF CLOSE.
UM, SO I, THE AC SYSTEM THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO PUT IN, WHAT IS THE TYPE? IS IT A, UH, WHAT IS THE TONNAGE? IS IT A, I FORGOT WHAT THEY CALL IT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORY SPLIT.
IT'S, IT'S A MINI SPLIT UNIT ON THE WALL.
UM, THE BIG CONCERN HERE AGAIN, IS HUMIDITY.
UM, UM, SO I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH MY OTHER TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UH, WITH A HOME THIS SIZE AND EVEN SMALLER, THE, UM, BLOWERS ARE USUALLY KEPT INSIDE THE HOME.
UM, THE WATER HEATERS AND THE WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEMS ARE NORMALLY OUTSIDE THE HOME.
ALTHOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S ELECTRIC, THE WATER HEATER, YOU CAN PUT IT INSIDE THE HOME AS WELL.
UM, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THEIR GARAGE, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE UNDERSTORY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE UNDERSTORY FOR THE AC UNIT IF YOU'RE AFRAID OF MOLD AND MILDEW AND, AND SO FORTH.
KEEP IT OPEN SO THAT THE CROSS VENTILATION WILL ASSIST WITH THAT.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT IT, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT WHAT THEY'VE SAID.
I THINK IT'S WELL SAID AND, AND NO SENSE IN REPEATING IT.
UM, THE, UM, THIRD VARIANCE YOU'RE REQUESTING, UM, IS FOR THE, UM, EXTERIOR WALL, UH, THE EXTERIOR TRELLIS THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN, WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE ALUMINUM, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IS ASKING THAT IT BE OF CANVAS.
UM, AND YOU EXPLAINED WHY IT NEEDS TO BE ALUMINUM SO THAT THERE'S LESS MAINTENANCE
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REQUIRED.UH, SOMETHING THAT WE ALL GO THROUGH WHEN WE DO, UH, A CANOPY OUTSIDE THE GARAGE, UH, OF CANVAS SO THAT A CAR CAN BE PARKED AND NOT BE, UH, EXPOSED TO THE SUN.
UM, WILL THIS TRELLIS THAT IS PROTRUDING ON THE BACK OF THE HOME WITH EITHER THE ALUMINUM OR THE CANVAS, DOES IT, UM, INTERFERE WITH THE PERIPHERAL VIEW OF ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SIDES? 'CAUSE THERE ARE BEING PROBLEMS EXPRESSED BY OTHER NEIGHBORS ON PALMEN HEIGHT AND PALM ISLAND IS THE ONE I HEARD IT FROM, WHERE NEIGHBORS ARE PROTRUDING SO MUCH INTO THE BACKYARD AND THEN PUTTING IN YACHTS NOW BOATS, YACHTS THAT EXCEED THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND SO THERE'S CONCERNS BEING RAISED WITH PERIPHERAL VIEW.
WILL THIS EXTEND SO FAR OUT THAT IT WILL COMPROMISE THE PERIPHERAL VIEW OF ANY NEIGHBOR YOU'RE SAYING? NO.
I MEAN, IF AFTER THE PER, UH, THE TRELLIS IS, IS BUILT, WHAT IS THE, UM, DEPTH BETWEEN THE TRELLIS AND THE WATER LINE? SO, OR THE PROPERTY LINE? DO YOU HAVE A, AN IMAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD SHOW US? IF WE GO BACK, WE CAN BRING UP, PUT THE IMAGES ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
SO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THIS SORT OF WHITE, UM, UH, FABRIC THAT COMES DOWN IN THE EVENT OF WANTING TO SHADE THE TERRACE MORE.
SO THEY'RE BASICALLY SHADES THAT COME UP AND THEY ROLL UP AGAIN.
BUT USUALLY THIS IS OPEN LIKE THIS AND IT'S TOTALLY SEE THROUGH.
SO THERE'S NO OPACITY OR BLOCKAGE OF VIEWS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
IT'S FURTHER, UM, TOWARDS THE WATER THAN THIS TERRACE IS.
AND ACTUALLY THERE'S LIKE A JUNGLE OF VEGETATION THAT IS GONNA CREATE PRIVACY FOR BOTH PROPERTIES THAT IS NOT GONNA REALLY ALLOW.
UM, SO WHAT IS THE DEPTH BETWEEN THE POLE, THE LAST POLE AND THE OKAY, THAT SHOWS A BETTER, UH, PICTURE? WHERE IS THE TRELLIS IN THIS? I MEAN, THE SETBACK TO THAT, TO THAT, UH, TRELLIS IS, UH, PROBABLY THE, THE LIGHT BLUE ALMOST A HUNDRED FEET, YOU KNOW, FROM, AND IT'S IN THE CENTER FROM THE BULKHEAD, YOU KNOW, OF THE SEA WALL.
SO IT'S A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE END OF THE TRELLIS YEAH.
AND, AND THE TRELLIS IS ON ESSENTIALLY THE SECOND FLOOR.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT THE, IT'S THE FIRST HABIT OF FLOOR, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
YEAH, IT'S ON THE PRIMARY LIVING LEVEL.
AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO, IF YOU WERE TO DO CANVAS, LIKE I COULD, WOULD YOU ALSO HAVE THIS ALUMINUM, THE COLUMN, THE, THE, THE, THE GRID? WOULD YOU, YOU WOULD NEED THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT RE STRUCTURES THE CANOPY.
THAT'S REGARDLESS, THE STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE THERE.
THAT'S SORT OF ENGINEERED TO WITHSTAND HURRICANE WINDS.
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE MATERIAL ON THE TOP FABRIC VERSUS ALUMINUM, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, YEAH, THE STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE THERE REGARDLESS.
AND CODE IS ONLY PERMITTING CANVAS.
AND HOW DO WE TREAT RESTAURANTS WHERE THERE'S A HARD CEILING? BECAUSE I, THIS SPACE IS NOT GONNA BE ENCLOSED.
AND SO I THINK I, I, I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ONE FROM THE LAST TIME AND I THINK THIS IS, IF YOU CAN AFFORD THE SYSTEM, THIS IS THE ONE YOU WANT.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S JUST THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY PROBABLY OF THESE ALUMINUM BLADES BEFORE.
UM, SO THIS ONE, TO BE HONEST, THE SIGHT LINES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA AIR CONDITION THIS SPACE.
SO I WAS, THIS ONE I WAS ALL RIGHT WITH.
LIO, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION WHY THE, THAT THERE WAS SUCH A STRONG FEELING ABOUT MAINTAINING THE CANVAS? IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE A, A FEELING ABOUT MAINTAINING A CANVAS.
IT'S, THE ISSUE IS BY MAKING IT AN ALUMINUM STRUCTURE, IT BECOMES, IT FALLS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A TERRACE THAT, UH, OR A, SORRY, A PROJECTION WHERE THE CODE EXEMPTS THE FIRST FIVE FEET OF THE PROJECTION.
EVERYTHING FROM LOT COVERAGE, EVERYTHING BEYOND THE FIVE FEET OF THE PROJECTION COUNTS TOWARDS THE LOT COVERAGE.
WHEN IT'S CANVAS, IT'S NOT A STRUCTURE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY REMOVABLE.
SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA PROVIDE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT PROTECTION FROM THE RAIN.
WHEN IT'S A SOLID ALUMINUM MATERIAL THAT CAN BE FULLY CLOSED.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT, UH, FROM THE CODE PERSPECTIVE THAN, UH, THAN IF IT WERE JUST A PERMANENT COVERED, UH, TERRACE.
'CAUSE IT COULD BE PERMANENTLY COVERED.
SO THAT'S THE, SO HOW MUCH WILL THE LOCK COVERAGE INCREASE IF IT'S ALLOWED TO BE OF ALUMINUM AND NOT CANVAS? 4%.
WHICH THEN WOULD GO TO, LET'S SEE, IS IT INCLUDED IN THE LOCK COVERAGE THAT'S LISTED HERE? IT, IT WOULD GO FROM, YES, IT WOULD GO FROM 2,600 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULD GO TO 34 POINT 15, UM, OF LOCK COVERAGE VERSUS 30%.
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SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT THE CODE SAYS YOU CAN'T DO THIS, IT'S THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALUMINUM, IT CAN BE PERMANENTLY COVERED AND THEREFORE, UM, IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS A, AS A AS IF IT IS PERMANENTLY COVERED.
IF, COULD I CLARIFY SOMETHING ELSE? UH, ON THE, UH, STORAGE ISSUE OF THAT, THAT SPACE? DO IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH, LET'S, WE'LL GET, ALRIGHT, ONE SECOND.
IF I CAN JUST FINISH MY QUESTION ON THE LAST ONE WITH THE VARIANCE NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE BULKHEAD FOR THE ELEVATOR.
WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THAT ELEVATOR THAT YOU NEED TO INCLUDE IN THIS HOME THAT'S SIZE? WHAT'S THE CAB HEIGHT IS, UH, EIGHT AND A HALF BY FIVE, NINE IS SORT OF THE SHAFT OF THE ELEVATOR.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE CAB HEIGHT? THE CAB HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT OF THE CAB INSIDE.
YOU GUYS ARE REALLY TESTING MY MEMORY HERE.
IT'S, IT'S ABOUT PROBABLY 7, 7, 8 FEET.
IT'S JUST THE WAY THE MECHANISM WORK IS MORE LIKE A COMMERCIAL ELEVATOR.
THAT'S WHY THEY REQUIRE THE BULKHEAD NOW.
SO INSTEAD OF USING A LULA, YOU'RE GOING WITH A, WITH A, A HOIST WAY.
IT'S A MORE SOPHISTICATED ELEVATOR.
AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO USE A MACHINE LESS ELEVATOR.
THIS IS MACHINE LESS, BUT STILL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT WORKS, IT REQUIRES THAT ADDITIONAL THREE FEET OF, OF BULKHEAD.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF ELEVATORS THAT DON'T NEED A HOIST WAY.
WE'VE LOOKED AT, I MEAN, ANYTHING OF THIS SIZE REQUIRES, UM, THIS, THIS BULKHEAD, I MEAN, RIGHT.
SO THAT THE ELEVATOR CAB SIZE IS LARGER THAN YOUR, YOUR SMALLER ELEVATORS THAT DON'T NEED THE HOIST WAY.
I'M JUST CLARIFYING THIS WITH FOR MICRO HERE.
YEAH, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THOSE RESIDENTIAL ELEVATORS ARE SUPER TIGHT AND VERY CLAUSTROPHOBIC.
AND, UM, SO WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THIS ELEVATOR WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE THE CAB ITSELF IS SIX NINE BY FOUR FOUR.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT HUGE, BUT IT'S ABOUT 20% LARGER THAN THE TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL ELEVATOR.
IT ALSO HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAVEL SPEED.
'CAUSE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL ONES ARE LIKE, AND IT'S QUIETER A LOT SLOWER.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE MECHANICAL ROOM.
ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN THE, UH, WIRE FOOT CONSTRUCTION SYSTEMS, CAN IT BE CEILING MOUNTED? WELL, THEY'RE GONNA BE, UM, SOME ARE MOUNTED, SOME ARE WALL MOUNTED UP ABOVE FEMALE PLUS ONE, AND THOSE THAT NEED A PEDESTAL HAVE AN ALUMINUM PEDESTAL TO ELEVATE THEM.
I WAS JUST WONDERING LIKE IF A MEZZANINE TYPE LEVEL COULD BE CREATED FOR THIS EQUIPMENT SO THAT THAT COULD BE CONDITIONED.
SEE WE HAVE ABOUT 10 FEET OF SPACE INSIDE THAT ROOM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE RACING EVERYTHING ABOVE FEMA, SO EVERYTHING IS SAFE.
I WILL ALSO SAY, AND I THINK SARAH, THIS IS TO YOUR CONCERN.
THE CODE ALLOWS US TO PUT ALL THIS EQUIPMENT THERE.
THE CODE ALLOWS US TO HAVE AN EQUIPMENT ROOM THERE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THIS TO BE AN EQUIPMENT ROOM AS A VARIANCE.
THE ONLY ASPECT OF VARIANCE HERE IS THAT IT'S AIR CONDITION, WHICH MEANS IT'S BEING DEHUMIDIFIED, WHICH TO ME IS LOGICAL FOR THESE SPACES.
YOU KNOW, WE, IF WE COULD PROTECT THEM, LET'S PROTECT THEM.
WE NEED TO PUT AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING FOR.
TO ME, IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE WAY THIS, UH, ROOM IS DESIGNED AND ALL THE ABUNDANCE OF EQUIPMENT, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT GRANDMA TO SLEEP IN THAT ROOM.
OKAY? THIS ROOM IS TOTALLY IN THE SHADOW OF THE HOUSE.
IT HAS NO WINDOWS IS IN THE DARKNESS OF, OF THE HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE KNOW IN SOUTH FLORIDA, PEOPLE DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS NOT POSSIBLE IN, IN OTHER WORLDS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THE INTENTION IS IT'S A MECHANICAL ROOM.
THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE HERE TO BRING IT UPSTAIRS, IF I DO AN ANALYSIS, IT DESTROYS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING UPSTAIRS.
THERE'S NO DENYING THAT IT'S A LARGE HOME.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A LARGE HOME.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW.
BUT WE DO PREFER, LIKE WE DO LIKE IN MEGA SHIPS, YOU KNOW, WE PUT ALL THE MECHANICAL STUFF IN THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE SHIP.
WE DON'T PUT IT UP IN THE MAIN DECK.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE, IT'S ILLOGICAL, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THIS IS SENSIBLE, IT'S RATIONAL, IT MAKES SENSE.
WE HAVE SAJU HERE TO EXPLAIN THE DYNAMICS OF AIR CONDITIONING SPACES AND REMOVING THE HUMIDITY, HUMIDITY CONCERN IF YOU LIKE.
YOU SEE, NOW I UNDERSTAND ALL THIS, MY ISSUE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, BUT MY ISSUE IS THIS, THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NEED AND A WANT AND A HARDSHIP AND A CHOICE.
AND THE VARIANCE REGARDING THE AIR CONDITIONING, THE VARIANCE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION REGARDING THE ELEVATOR, THESE ARE ALL FOR ME.
I DON'T AGREE, SORRY, I DON'T AGREE WITH STAFF THAT THESE ARE HARDSHIPS AND THEREFORE THESE VARIANCES SHOULD BE GRANTED.
AND REALLY THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU, TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS A HARDSHIP.
I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVEN'T MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF THAT THESE ARE ACTUAL HARDSHIPS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR CLIENT IS CHOOSING TO CREATE SUCH A LARGE HOME AND THEN CREATING A HARDSHIP FOR THEMSELVES TO THEN SAY, OH, WE NEED A BIGGER ELEVATOR BECAUSE OUR HOME IS SO LARGE.
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WE'RE CHOOSING TO, TO CREATE ALL THESE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE THESE AREAS UNDERNEATH TO BE AIR CONDITIONED.ALL OF THOSE WONDERFUL REASONS THAT YOU'RE GIVING, YOU'RE ARCHITECT.
BUT IT'S MY, IT IT'S OUR DUTY TO LOOK AT THE CODE, UPHOLD THE CODE, LOOK AT WHAT IS THE GREATEST GOOD FOR THE GREATEST PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT WE ARE SETTING.
AND I JUST THINK THAT I, IF THE VARIANCE IS BASED ON A HARDSHIP FOR ME, AND THIS IS, I DON'T SEE THAT THESE ARE HARDSHIPS, THAT THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY POINT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON ANY MORE OF THE OTHER VARIANCES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS.
UM, I KNOW ADAM, WE SORT OF CUT YOU OFF A LITTLE, SO FEEL FREE TO, UM, ADD OR WHATEVER.
I, I JUST, UM, ROGELIO, WHEN THE UNDERSTORY IDEA CAME ABOUT, UM, IT WAS MEANT TO BE A NON-AIR CONDITIONED AREA EXCEPT IN THE AREA WHERE YOU MAYBE ENTER, YOU KNOW, TO GO INTO THE HOUSE, THE HOME, BUT IT'S MEANT TO BE IN NON-AIR CONDITIONED AREA, PERVIOUS TO ALLOW WATER TO GO THROUGH, UM, IN CASE OF A HORRIFIC, UH, FLOOD.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, IT'S STILL ALLOWED FOR STORAGE UNDERNEATH THEIR CARS TO BE PARKED.
UM, A 10, UM, A PING PONG TABLE TO BE PLACED, ANY OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
UM, AND OF COURSE THERE IS HUMIDITY DOWN THERE, THERE'S SHADE, UM, BUT THERE COULD ALSO BE CROSS VENTILATION BECAUSE IT HAS TO REMAIN OPEN ON BOTH, AT LEAST ON TWO SIDES.
UM, ANYTHING THAT BECOMES ENCLOSED WOULD INCREASE THE UNIT SIZE.
UM, SO I, IN THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE US, THE UNIT SIZE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN, DID IT INCLUDE THAT AIR CONDITIONED AREA IN THE UNDERSTORY? THE STORAGE AREAS ARE REQUIRED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE UNDERSTORY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE AIR CONDITIONED OR NOT AIR CONDITIONED OR NOT.
THEY, THEY DO GET AN EXEMPTION OF 600 SQUARE FEET FOR THE PARKING, THE GARAGE AREA, SO THAT, THAT IS EXEMPT.
BUT THIS TYPE OF A STORAGE AREA WOULD ALWAYS COUNT WHETHER REGARDLESS OF THE, THE RE CONDITION REGARDLESS.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU MY, I'LL JUST WIND IT UP.
UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS A STORAGE UNIT.
I BELIEVE CODE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO ADDRESS A STORAGE AREA UNDER THERE WITH AIR CONDITIONING.
'CAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN HAVING A STORAGE AREA WITH RUINED STUFF.
UM, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, AGAIN, THE CODE NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH SMALLER HOMES ARE GONNA MAKE THIS A ROOM.
I I, I CLEARLY REALIZE WITH ALL THE STUFF YOU'RE DOING, THIS IS GONNA BE PLUMBED AND WIRED FOR THIS EQUIPMENT AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHANGED INTO A ROOM.
SO FOR THAT, I KIND OF WOULD, I, I'M KIND OF OKAY WITH IT, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE CODE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THIS.
THIS IS WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY TRY TO MAKE UNDERST STORIES NOT BE IN FRONT OF US ANYMORE.
IT SHOULD ALL BE CLEAR AND IT'S NEVER CLEAR.
THEY ALWAYS ARE BEHIND THE CURVE IN WHAT THEY'RE, NO, WE'RE ALLOWING THESE GIGANTIC HOUSES.
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN DO.
SO FOR THAT CASE, A I WOULD ALLOW THE ELEVATOR BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, AND I KNOW THOSE ELEVATORS THAT ARE PNEUMATIC THAT ARE SO NOISY AND SLOW AND STUPID.
SO I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE NE AND NO NEIGHBORS HAVING ISSUES WITH THIS.
UM, THE PAVERS UNDERNEATH, AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A SOPHISTICATED DRAINING SYSTEM AND YOUR POINTS ARE VALID AND THE CODE SHOULD START ADDRESSING SINKING PAVERS AND STUFF AND ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY SMART SOLUTION AND I APPLAUD THAT.
SO I WOULD ALLOW IT IN THIS CASE AGAIN, THAT THEY'RE DOING SUCH A SOPHISTICATED DRAINAGE AND WELLS THAT THIS, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS BEING MET AS FAR AS THE TRELLIS BACK TO, I THINK THE COACH SHOULD ADDRESS THIS.
THEY'RE CLEARLY NOT GONNA ENCLOSE THIS ROOM AND PUT SOMEBODY OUT THERE OR MAKE IT A BALLROOM.
IT'S, IT'S CLEARLY A TEMPORARY SPACE AND IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE GONNA PERMANENTLY ENCLOSE IT.
AND THAT'S WHY THE MATERIAL IS WHAT IT IS.
I THINK THE CODE, ONCE AGAIN, IS DEFECTIVE ON THAT.
IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, UM, RATHER THAN JUST KEEP KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD AND HAVING THIS COME BACK EVERY TIME.
THERE'S NO SIGHT LINE IMPLICATIONS.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A HUGE LOT, I WOULD HATE TO SEE AS A REALTOR AND AS WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING SO GIGANTIC TO NOT LIKE, LET IT MEET ITS FULL POTENTIAL.
I MEAN, BY, BY LIMITING THESE SILLY THINGS, I I THEY ARE SILLY.
WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A BIG THING, I, I THINK, UM, CODE NEEDS TO, CODE NEEDS TO BE, WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING THESE THINGS WITH THE CODE AND, AND, AND STOP THIS WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY FOR EVERYBODY.
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IN CONTINUATION OF SCOTT'S UH, COMMENTS.I DO NOT FAVOR THE, UM, AIR CONDITIONING OF THE UNDERSTORY FOR STORAGE, WHICH IS YOUR VARIANCE NUMBER ONE, OR YOUR VARIANCE NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS, UH, SWITCHING FROM CANVAS TO ALUMINUM FOR THE TRELLIS.
UM, I'M ALL RIGHT WITH THE OTHER TWO.
I COMMEND YOU FOR THE CISTERN.
I THINK, UH, YOU CAN NOW START COMPETING WITH ISTANBUL AND THE, UH, THE CISTERN THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, ADAM, DID YOU WANNA, I THINK YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP THE POINT, WHICH IS THE, THE SPACE.
MAKE SURE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
WE KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA BE A, A BEDROOM DOWN THERE, AND IT IS EQUIPMENT AND IT WILL DIE IF IT'S NOT AIR CONDITIONED.
BUT THE PRECEDENT IS, IS TRUE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REWRITE THE CODE, WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S, IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
UM, AND THE SAME THING WITH THE ALUMINUM BLADES.
I THINK, LIKE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA BE A CONDITIONED SPACE, SO I DON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THE CANVAS AND THE, AND THE ALUMINUM, BESIDES IT'S A BETTER PRODUCT.
UM, SO I WAS, I WAS OKAY WITH THOSE.
I DO AGREE WITH ALL OF WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS ABOUT PRECEDENT.
AND, AND, AND IT WILL BE THE CASE WHEN SOMEONE HAS A WATER FILTER IN A CORNER AND IT'S A SMALL ROOM, AND THEY, THEY DO THEN CONVERT THAT INTO A, A BEDROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT, THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS AS A, AS A BOARD.
I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NICE LUXURY.
IF, IF WE'VE, IF WE'VE APPROVED THE THREE FEET FOR ELEVATOR BULKHEADS, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS YOU DON'T TELL ME YOU'VE GOT A, A NINE FOOT ELEVATOR CAB THAT YOU NEED THIS TYPE OF OVERRUN FOR, BECAUSE I THINK A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT CAB IS PLENTY FINE FOR, FOR IN THE DRAINAGE.
I DO THINK YOU GUYS SATISFIED THAT VERY WELL.
UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, UM, I'M SORRY, JUST TO ADD TO IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANNA AIR CONDITION OR YOU WANT TO AIR CONDITION THE STORAGE AREA, BUT THE EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE AIR CONDITIONING SUCH AS THE WATER PURIFIER, THE WATER HEATERS DO NOT NEED TO BE AIR CONDITIONED.
THEY TYPICALLY ARE IN A GARAGE OR ON THE OUTSIDE OF A HOME.
AND IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTORY WHERE YOU CAN KEEP THEM WITHOUT THEM BEING, UH, AIR CONDITIONED.
THEY NEED TO BE AIR CONDITIONED, BUT YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT UNIT SIZE, SUFFICIENT SIZE OF A HOME, I BELIEVE, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PUT THOSE BLOWERS IN THE HOME WITHOUT COMPROMISING ITS LUXURY AND ABILITY TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO DO WITHIN THE SPACE OF THEIR AIR CONDITIONED HOME.
COULD I ASK QUESTION WITH THE 29,000, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? ACTUALLY, MYRA, CAN I ASK YOU, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE, UM, THE, THE TRELLIS.
WHY ARE YOU NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE, OF THAT FAIR? WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO STICK TO THE CANVAS? ONE, EVERYONE ELSE IS PUTTING IN A CANVAS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHEN THEY DO CANOPIES OUTSIDE THEIR HOMES, UM, THOSE ARE NOT $40 MILLION HOMES.
THIS IS NOT A, A CARPORT IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, A SMALL HOME.
I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE $20 MILLION HOMES AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT.
SO THAT'S ONE REASON, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY REASON.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED WHETHER IT'S A ALUMINUM OR A CANVAS, UM, BECAUSE THE PERSON THAT OWNS THIS HOME HAS THE MEANS.
BUT EVEN THOUGH PUTTING THE MEANS ASIDE, HE WANTS TO MAINTAIN THAT THE CODE IS ASKING FOR IT TO BE AT THIS POINT FOR IT TO BE CANVAS.
AND SO UNLESS THE CODE IS CHANGED, UM, THEN YOU DO HAVE TO, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, INCLUDE THAT EXTRA AREA THAT IS BEYOND THE FIVE FEET INTO YOUR UNIT SIZE, WHICH THEN BRINGS YOU TO MORE THAN THE 34.
UM, POINT 15, I THINK THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, NO, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, UH, 47.38 THAT YOU HAVE, BUT THAT IS THE CODE.
I, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE IF THE CODE IS CHANGED AND IT'S A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD HAD, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES TO DISCUSS BETWEEN CANVAS AND ALUMINUM.
I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR WANTING ALUMINUM AND NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH, WITH, UM, MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES.
BUT YOU ARE ALLOWED FOR VARIANCE.
IF IN THE FUTURE IT, THE CODE HAS CHANGED AND IT SAYS GO AHEAD, YOU CAN PUT IN ALUMINUMS, I THINK YOU CAN STILL DO.
SO INSTEAD OF REPLACING THE CANVAS IN 10 YEARS, WHEN IT STARTS TO TEAR OR FADE, OR SHOW SIGNS OF, IF I MAY, YES.
IS THE CONCERN AS I THINK SOME HAVE BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE ENCLOSED AND
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AIR CONDITIONED IN THE FUTURE BECOMES A CLOSED, UH, SPACE.UH, I DON'T THINK THAT I, THAT IS NOT MY CONCERN IN, IN GOING AGAINST IT, MY PERSONALLY.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA USE IT AS AN ENCLOSED AIR CONDITIONED AREA.
WHAT, JUST MAKING SURE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE.
AND I DON'T, DON'T SEE THAT BEING ABLE TO HAPPEN EITHER.
I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT HAPPENING.
I THINK, UM, IT'S, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
WHAT IS THE ISSUE? THE ONES I JUST STATED.
AND THE ONES STATED BY THE ENTIRE BOARD MAKE STATE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REPEAT THEM.
WE JUST, THE CODE IS ASKING FOR CANVAS.
THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS LOOKED AT IT AND SAYS IT SHOULD BE CANVAS.
VARIANCES ARE MEANT TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT IT SHOULD BE ALUMINUM, THEN SO BE IT.
BUT I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OPINION.
AND SOME OTHERS HAVE GIVEN YOU THEIR OPINION, RIGHT? THAT ALUMINUM IS NOT PART OF THE CODE.
IT DOES NOT, UM, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY CANVAS DIRECTLY.
UH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S JUST AN INTERPRETATION OF WHAT, OF THE UNIT SIZE, THE ADDITIONAL AT, WHEN, WHEN, UH, THE CANVAS OR ALUMINUM IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE FULLY, UH, EXPANDED POSITION.
YOU HAVE A, A COVERED AREA MM-HMM
SO THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION.
I DO NOT THINK THAT THE CODE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE TYPE OF MATERIAL.
UM, AND SO IT'S AN INTERPRETATION THAT OBVIOUSLY WHAT IT'S, THAT A CERTAIN, SOME TYPES OF MATERIALS ARE LEANING TOWARDS MORE COVERED AS IN, UH, MORE STRUCTURALLY LOOKING LIKE COVERED AS OPPOSED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOSER COVERED MATERIAL.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN IT'S CANVAS, SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'S MORE OPENINGS TO IT, UM, MAKING IT LESS CLOSED.
WHEREAS THE, THE CANVAS IS OPAQUE WHEN IT'S CLOSED OFF, IT BASICALLY LOOKS THE SAME AS ALUMINUM, PRETTY MUCH.
IT'S JUST THAT IT WEATHERS DIFFERENTLY, IT AGES DIFFERENTLY.
SO MAY, MAY I MAKE A STATEMENT, UH, MADAM CHAIR? SURE.
ACTUALLY, I, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING ACTUALLY THAT I, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA WANT ME TO SAY.
I, I'M HAPPY HOW YOU SAY IT, BUT I, I WANNA TO, TO RESPOND.
UM, THE, I'M, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MY OTHER COMMENTS, I'M GENERALLY LIKE, LET'S STICK TO THE CODE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT IS ABLE AND PERMITTED AND THEY ARE GONNA PUT ON THIS TERRACE, THAT THAT SORT OF MAKES IT, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? I DON'T THINK THAT THE MATERIAL THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE TOP OF THE TRELLIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT SEEM ANY LESS IMPERMANENT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THAT I GUESS WE DID, WE, WE APPROVED THE, THE TRELLIS.
THE, FOR ME, THE THING THAT MAKES IT LOOK MORE STABLE AND PERMANENT IS THE TRELLIS ITSELF, NOT THE MATERIAL ON THE TOP.
SO WHETHER IT'S ALUMINUM OR CANVAS OR WHATEVER, OR EVEN OPEN, I THINK YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE SAME EFFECT.
AND THAT'S WHY I AM IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A, IF, IF THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS TO MAKE IT NOT SEEM SO PERMANENT OR NOT AN ENCLOSED ROOM, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE STRUCTURE.
THE STRUCTURE IS, IS CONTRIBUTING MORE TO THAT THAN THE TOP OF IT.
AND THE ALUMINUM YOU'RE PROPOSING IS FOR THE TOP, NOT THE SIDES OR FRONT EXACTLY.
YEAH, JUST THE TOP OF THE CAN.
AND IN THE FRONT AND ON THE SIDES.
I, I DEFINITELY IN THE FRONT, FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE PICTURES, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SHADE THAT'S NOT OPAQUE.
IS THAT SHADE NOT AVAILABLE? CAN THAT SHADE BE USED ON THE TOP INSTEAD OF THE ALUMINUM? AND WOULD THAT COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT CODE INTERPRETATION? WELL, THAT SHADE IS NOT WATERTIGHT, SO IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, PROTECTING THE SPACE.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT THERE AND IT STARTS TO RAIN, WHICH HAPPENS FREQUENTLY IN OUR BEAUTIFUL TROPICAL CLIMATE, THAT THE PARTY CONTINUES, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS SORT OF CLOSE THE SYSTEM.
AGAIN, IT AESTHETICALLY, I'M SORRY.
I, I WANTED, UH, UM, ROGELIO IS THE SHADE.
I, I PRESUME THE SHADE IS A CANVAS TYPE MATERIAL, SO THAT WOULD NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE, UH, THE, UH, LOCK COVERAGE.
IT'S A, UM, IT'S NOT A COTTON TYPE MATERIAL.
DID WE HAVE, CAN I JUST ASK, DID WE, YOU SHOWED SOMETHING FROM SOUTH OF FIFTH, THAT WAS THE OLD ITALIAN RESTAURANT SPACE ON THE ROOF WITH THE CANVAS.
DIDN'T, DIDN'T THIS COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT SOME POINT TO THEN CHANGE THAT MATERIAL TO AN ALUMINUM INSTEAD OF THAT CANVAS? I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THAT PROJECT CAME TO THE BOARD, BUT WHAT I COULD, WHAT I CAN SAY IS IN, IN, IF YOU'RE USING AN ALUMINUM
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COVERAGE STRUCTURE SUCH AS THAT, WE WOULD COUNT IT, UM, AS FAR, IT WOULD COUNT AGAINST THEIR FAR.AND I GUESS THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE HERE.
THAT IT'S, IT SEEMS MORE ENCLOSED, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S HARD AND IT'S NOT PERMEABLE.
RIGHT? IF SO, IF YOU HAVE A, A, A GRIDDED TRELLIS SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T COUNT THAT AGAINST YOUR FAR.
WE WOULDN'T COUNT THAT NECESSARILY AGAINST YOUR LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OPEN, IT'S PERVIOUS.
UM, AKIEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT, OKAY.
UM, ANY, ANYBODY, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? SHOULD WE DO A TAKE A VOTE? COULD I MAKE A STATEMENT BEFORE? OH, SURE.
SO, LOOK, I'VE BEEN PRACTICING OVER 40 YEARS, RIGHT? MANY, MANY OF THOSE YEARS HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
I'VE SHARED RESILIENCY TASK FORCE WITH THE CHAMBER FOR MANY YEARS.
THIS COMES FROM AN AREA OF SENSIBILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.
AS A LICENSED ARCHITECT, YOU'RE A LICENSED ARCHITECT.
YOU COME FROM A HERITAGE OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN EXCELLENCE, RIGHT? I SHARE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN BALL HARBOR.
AND THE WAY I MANAGE THAT IS LIKE, LOOK, IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE CLIENT, AND IT, IT REALLY DOESN'T KILL ANYBODY, LET IT BE, RIGHT? AND I SOMETIMES QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHY IT BECOMES SO DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME BASIC THINGS TO JUST GET APPROVED.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CITY, OKAY? NOT A POLITICIAN, NEVER WILL BE, THANK GOD.
BUT YOUR DUTY IS TO LOOK AT THINGS FOR THE FACTS AND TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS MORE QUALITY, MORE PERMANENCE, MORE RESILIENCY, AND NOT LESS, IF YOU DENY ME THE AIR CONDITIONING IN THOSE SPACES, THE HOUSE IS A LESSER HOUSE IN QUALITY, OKAY? AND THE AIR CONDITIONING DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY.
IT CANNOT BE PERCEIVED BY ANYBODY, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE HABITABLE SPACE.
I ASSURE YOU THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT THIS CANVAS THING, LOOK, TOM MOONY IS, OH, WE KNOW, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIREMENT DAY.
I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND I SAT WITH HIM AND I SAID, HEY, WHAT IS THE SILLINESS BETWEEN CANVAS AND ALUMINUM? COME ON.
YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SERIOUS? WELL, HE STUCK HIS GROUND.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.
YOU KNOW, THIS BECOMES CONTROVERSIAL.
SO HERE WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS SO SILLY THAT IF I EXPLAIN IT TO MY GRANDCHILDREN, THEY'LL SAY, REALLY? IS THAT THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN? YOU KNOW? SO AGAIN, NONE OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, IRRATIONAL.
THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING US TO BUILD MORE HOUSE.
THEY'RE JUST ALLOWING US TO BUILD A BETTER HOUSE, A MORE QUALITY HOUSE.
UM, SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED ALL OF YOUR VOTES TODAY.
THAT'S WHY I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT PASSIONATE.
WE NEED FIVE VOTES HERE TODAY, OKAY? AND WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT US TO DO.
AND, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AS AN ARCHITECT, YOU SHOULD KNOW OUR DUTY IS TO DESIGN THE BEST POSSIBLE HOUSE.
OTHERWISE, OUR LICENSE SHOULD BE REVOKED.
OKAY? AND THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO HERE.
I'M REPRESENTING MY CLIENT WITH AS MUCH CAREFULNESS, PROFESSIONALISM AND PASSION AS I CAN IN FRONT OF A BOARD THAT SOMETIMES IS INFORMED BY NON-EXPERT.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON AIR CONDITIONING, IF YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON MATERIAL SCIENCE, HOW COULD YOU HAVE SUCH PASSION ABOUT CANVAS VERSUS ALUMINUM? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, SO THAT IS FRUSTRATING FOR ME, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M A PROFESSIONAL, OKAY? I'M HERE REPRESENTING EVERYTHING THAT, THAT I DO EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE FOR MY CLIENTS.
WE'RE NOT HERE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY WHEN I CAME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.
NOW WE'RE TRYING TO PERFECT IT.
AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT THE CODE ALLOWS TO PERFECT PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHY VARIANCES EXIST, OKAY? VARIANCES ARE NOT BAD WORDS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY EVIL THINGS.
YOU SHOULD FEEL A LITTLE MORE RELAXED ABOUT VARIANCES, BECAUSE IT'S A WAY FOR US TO GET TO A BETTER FINAL PRODUCT.
SO I URGE YOU TO PLEASE BE RATIONAL.
UM, I'M HERE REPRESENTING MY CLIENT AS BEST AS I CAN, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT TO DECIDE ON THESE THINGS.
BUT IT'S KIND OF TRAGIC FOR US NOT TO BE ALLOWED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IN A FREE SOCIETY.
IT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER, OKAY? IF THIS PROJECT WERE IN HAVANA, I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.
AND HAVANA IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC PLACE LAST TIME I CHECKED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD HAS A LOT OF POWER, AND YOU'RE FEELING THAT, RIGHT? BUT I, I, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED TO HARDSHIP OR ANY, THE WAY THAT WE TYPICALLY THINK ABOUT VARIANCES.
IT'S ABOUT DESIGNING A BETTER HOUSE.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT MINDSET THAN HARDSHIP, RIGHT? THE BULKHEAD IN THE ELEVATOR IS A NO BRAINER.
YOU KNOW, ALL THESE HOUSES THAT ARE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU, 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE ALL THESE WEALTHY, BEAUTIFUL FAMILIES THAT WANT TO BE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
THEY ALL WANT A LARGER ELEVATOR
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA WASTE MY TIME OR ANYBODY ELSE'S TIME ASKING FOR A THREE FOOT BULKHEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE THAT NOBODY'S EVER GONNA SEE.
AIR CONDITIONING IS JUST BASIC, OKAY? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE EVENTUALLY AIR CONDITION THEIR GARAGES IN THIS CITY WITHOUT A PERMIT BECAUSE OF THIS.
BECAUSE IT REQUIRES SO MUCH PAIN TO DO THE RIGHT THING, OKAY? WHEN IT'S JUST LOGICAL.
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SO I REST MY CASE.HEY, MR. BOEZ, I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THIS CITY AND MORE SO IN OTHER CITIES TO GET A PERMIT AND TO BUILD A HOME.
THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS FAR LESS MAINTENANCE WITH AN ALUMINUM SHUTTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CORROSION WILL ALLOW IT TO OPEN AND CLOSE AS WELL AS WE WOULD THINK IT WOULD, UM, THAN USING A CANVAS AWNING.
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR DESIGN EXPERTISE.
USE YOUR DESIGN EXPERTISE TO PUT, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE A BLOWER FOR AIR CONDITIONS SYSTEMS OF A HOME INSIDE THE HOME WHERE IT IS ALREADY AIR CONDITIONED.
CERTAINLY YOU HAD ENOUGH SPACE WITHIN THE 29,000 SQUARE FEET.
AGAIN, I'M GONNA CLOSE BY SAYING IT IS DIFFICULT.
WE HAVE A CODE THAT SOMETIMES MAKES SENSE AND OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CODE THAT DO NOT MAKE SENSE, AND THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND WE HOPE TO ADDRESS THEM AS THE YEAR GOES FORWARD IN 26.
HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU THINK THIS IS BAD, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE BUSINESS ELSEWHERE, IT IS JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE.
THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT ISSUE A PERMIT ONCE A WEEK.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION AS WELL, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF SAID IT YOURSELF, THIS ISN'T ABOUT A HARDSHIP.
AND THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT'S IN MY MIND OR NOT IN MY MIND.
AND WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO HERE IS A DRB GRANT.
VARIANCE IS BASED ON HARDSHIPS.
NOW, WE'VE SEEN PROJECTS WHERE THE LOT, THE LOT SIZE IS SO SMALL, AND THE CODE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT MINIMUM HABITABILITY, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR HABITABILITY.
THIS, AGAIN, A 29,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, AN ARCHITECT THAT'S BEEN PRACTICING FOR DECADES, THAT OBVIOUSLY KNOWS HOW TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOME.
THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH THE AIR CONDITIONED SPACES THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT, THERE'S SO MUCH SPACE ALREADY AIR CONDITIONED.
I DO NOT SEE WHY THIS IS, THIS IS MORE A DESIGN ISSUE, NOT A HARDSHIP ISSUE.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE OTHER VARIANCES.
UM, I ALSO HAPPEN TO BELIEVE IN THE REGULATIONS AND IN THE ZONING AND IN THE VARIANCES.
AND I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF DIRECT DEMOCRACY AND ACTION THAN A PANEL OF RESONANCE AND EXPERTS THAT ARE ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE CITY THAT THEY LIVE IN.
SO, WE'LL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, VARIANCE ONE, TWO, HOWEVER, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, HEARING THE, THE, THE WONDERFUL VOICES OF THE BOARD AND, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE REQUESTS.
UH, I THINK PERHAPS WE, WE CAN AGREE TO WITHDRAW THE AIR CONDITIONING VARIANCE.
WE WAIT UNTIL WE SEE HOW THE VOTE IS GONNA GO.
OR AT LEAST, WELL, WE, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME STRAW POLLING, BUT I THINK WE NEED FIVE VOTES.
I THINK IF WE NEED ALL FIVE VOTES.
I THINK RONALDO, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT.
SO WE WITHDRAW THE AIR CONDITIONING, RIGHT? WE WITHDRAW VARIANCE NUMBER ONE TO ALLOW THE AIR CONDITIONED OF THAT STORAGE SPACE RELUCTANTLY.
BUT, BUT WE WOULD, WE DO HAVE THE VOTES FOR NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE CONCRETE.
SORRY, I, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE VOTES.
WELL, I MEAN, WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WITHDRAWING THE VARIANCE OR JUST VOTING AGAINST IT? I MEAN, WE CAN JUST VOTE.
HE'S TRYING TO GIVE SOME COMPROMISE HERE, I THINK.
FLEXIBILITY IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME.
WE'VE HEARD WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, AND YEAH, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE OR IT WON'T BE.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I FEEL LIKE IF THAT'S MORE FOR THAT, UNLESS THERE'S, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
IF, IF TOMORROW, UM, SHUTTERS ARE ALLOWED, ROGELIO WOULD, AND THEY WANNA CHANGE FROM CANVAS TO ALUMINUM, WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD? IF, IF THE CODE WERE CHANGED? I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY AN, AN A, A NONS SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATION THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE, IT WOULD NOT EVEN IF WE WERE TO VOTE IT, NO, TODAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
UNLESS YOU WERE TO APPROVE A, INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT SAYS NO ALUMINUM AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A NONS SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATION.
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IN A PREVIOUS EXAMPLE, JUST I THINK IN SEPTEMBER THERE WAS GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO HAVE THE PERVIOUS TYPE OF, UH, PERFORATED SYSTEM WHERE YOU, THAT THE FLESHING OUT THESE DETAILS BEING BASICALLY TRYING TO BE CREATIVE TO MEET THE, I KNOW YOU KEPT SAYING HARDSHIP.THERE IS PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND THE ADHERENCE TO THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO DO THAT.
THE CODE, NOT INTENTIONALLY, BUT AT TIMES, UH, GUIDES PEOPLE TO ONE MM-HMM.
AND SO THE, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, THE, THE BEST PART OF THE VARIANCE, UM, SYSTEM IS TO POINT OUT WHEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REINTERPRET, SEE THINGS DIFFERENT AND GO FORWARD WITH CODE AMENDMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS AREN'T GONNA GO AND BATTLE, UH, THE PROCESS TO GET THE CODE AMENDED.
VERY RARE CIRCUMSTANCES MM-HMM
BUT, UM, WHEN YOU SEE THINGS THAT COME UP AND MAKE SENSE, AND THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THE PERFORATED VARIANCE NUMBER TWO, THE PERFORATED TYPE OF PAVER SYSTEM THAT YOU ALL, UM, HAD GREAT DISCUSSION ON AND URGE THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WE'RE HERE AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF OUR PROJECT, WE JUST ASK THAT THE VARIANCE BE, UH, GRANTED NOW, HOPEFULLY THAT NOBODY WILL NEED TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE THE CODE WILL, WILL BE MODIFIED TO ADDRESS THAT.
SIMILARLY, HAVING ALUMINUM AS BEING A APPROPRIATE MATERIAL, IT MAY COME IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE SOME OF THE, UH, IF NOT UNANIMOUS WILL OF THIS BOARD.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
AND LET ME ASK YOU, IF IT DOES COME IN THE FUTURE AND MAY BE MORE A QUESTION FOR YOU, IS IT POSSIBLE, IS IT BASED ON THE, UM, TRELLIS STRUCTURE, UM, TO CHANGE IT FROM CANVAS TO ALUMINUM? YEAH.
I ASSUME THERE'S ELECTRICAL THERE TO BRING THE COUNT THAT THE, UM, SYSTEM OPEN AND CLOSE ALMOST A FOUR YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF FUTURE HERE FOR THINGS TO EVOLVE BEYOND THIS MOMENT MM-HMM
BUT AS IT IS DESIGNED NOW, IS IT POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE, LET'S SAY FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED? NO, NO.
I MEAN, WHAT TO CHANGE IT FROM CANVAS TO ALUMINUM? I MEAN, IT IS BASICALLY POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ALUMINUM TO, TO CANVAS.
THIS IS OUR CAN CANOPY EXPERT, TECHNICALLY STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
OH, CAITLIN SUAREZ FROM SMARTSHEET STRUCTURES.
THE FABRIC SYSTEM IS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
SO YOU WOULD, IN CASE IN A FEW YEARS, YOU ALLOW IT, THAT FABRIC SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND YOU WOULD BE PUTTING IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD, UM, A RAILINGS FOR THAT ALUMINUM TO ROLL BACK AND FORTH AND TO OPEN AND TO DO WHATEVER.
BUT THE STRUCTURE IS THERE OF THE TRELLIS STRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, THE FRAMING IS THERE TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN AN ALUMINUM CANOPY IF THE CODE WERE TO CHANGE THE DETAILS FOR ALUMINUM ARE DIFFERENT THAN CANVAS.
SO IT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATION.
I I UNDERSTAND IT'S EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER.
AS LONG AS THE, YEAH, YOU PUT IN CANVAS NOW, BUT AS LONG AS THE, UM, TRELLIS FRAME REMAINS, YOU'RE NOT CHANGING IT NOW TO GO TO ALUMINUM, YOU'RE GONNA USE IT EITHER FOR ALUMINUM OR CANVAS.
SO I, I JUST WA WAS WONDERING, I, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER.
WE DON'T GET, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE A POLITICIAN TAKES THIS BOARD AND, AND GOES BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS ABSURDITY.
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS, THE INTENT OF THIS IS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE HOUSE, THIS IS CLEARLY NOT THAT FOR ME, AFTER SIX YEARS ON THIS BOARD, AND I WANNA, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD MY FRUSTRATIONS WITH SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT I, I'M JUST COMPLETELY PERPLEXED BY THAT COME FROM ABOVE.
AND OFTENTIMES HARDSHIPS PLACES SHOULD NOT BE BUILT ON CERTAIN PLACES.
AND WE ALLOW IT 'CAUSE OF A HARDSHIP.
THEN WE ALLOW THESE ENORMOUS HOUSES.
AND WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH THIS, WHAT SEEMS RIDICULOUS TO ME TALKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANVAS AND ALUMINUM.
IF YOUR NEIGHBOR WANTED TO PUT UP A CARPORT, YOU WOULD BEG THAT IT BE ALUMINUM BECAUSE THE CANVAS FADES AND IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP WITHIN A YEAR.
SO I'M LIKE, I THINK THIS IS SILLY.
I JUST DO, I'M SORRY, I KNOW WHAT YOUR POINT IS, BUT I THINK WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE AND USE THESE MEETINGS SO THAT THIS BOARD DOES NOT GET ABOLISHED, WHICH IS WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR COMMISSION WANTED TO DO AND MAKE IT MORE SENSIBLE.
THIS SHOULD BE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A 20 MINUTE DISCUSSION.
I THINK I'M JUST, IT'S ONLY A 20 MINUTE DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE WE'RE ALLOWING IT TO BE.
BUT AGAIN, BACK TO, I THINK WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT LET'S PERSPECTIVE.
I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO USE THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
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OUR, THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE DOING WRONG IS WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO CHANGE THE CODE.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION, A BIG DEAL AND WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
IT NEEDS TO BE PUT FORWARD OF PROBLEMS WE SEE WITH THE CODE.
'CAUSE WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME.
AND NOTHING'S DONE, JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND HAVE FRUSTRATION AFTER FRUSTRATION AFTER FRUSTRATION.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU, WE ARE THE WORST FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AS FAR AS GETTING PERMITS.
I'M DEALING WITH, UH, 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATION NOW.
SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WE SHOULD USE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO LETTER TO COMMISSION TO SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE CODE.
WELL, AND I THINK, I THINK YOU WERE AT THE MEETING WHEN WE SAID, LET'S, EACH OF US AS BOARD MEMBERS SEND A ITEM ROGELIO FOR US AS A BOARD TO DISCUSS ITEMS THAT WE FEEL ARE CODE ITEMS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE OR THAT NEED TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSED AND LOOKED AT POSSIBLY FOR CHANGE.
SO SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE? YEP.
SO DOES ANYONE, WE'RE REMOVING ONE.
DO SHOULD EACH VARIANCE BE A DIFFERENT MOTION? YES.
FOR EACH VARIANCE, THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, THERE'S, THE APPLICANT IS WITHDRAWING THE VOTE, THE MO UH, THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
THEN THERE'S NOTHING TO VOTE ON.
DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW ON THAT? ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE? YEAH, VARIANCE NUMBER ONE.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCE NUMBER TWO.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. DIFFENDERFER.
AND BECAUSE OF THE EXPLANATION THAT I, THAT I GAVE PREVIOUSLY, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCE NUMBER THREE TO ALLOW THE TRELLIS COVERING TO BE ALUMINUM VERSUS CANVAS.
I SECOND I THAT MOTION BY MR. D FOR A SECOND BY MR. BERG.
WHAT ABOUT THE THIRD OR VARIANCE NUMBER FOUR? MS. FOUR.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCE NUMBER FOUR, MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THE CAB ELEVATOR.
A MOTION BY MS. OLI, SECOND BY MR. DIFFENDERFER.
[5. DRB25-1101, 1140 ALTON ROAD.]
UP DRB 25 1 1 0 1 11 40 ALTON ROAD.THIS APPLICATION HAVE BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATION TO F FACADE OF AN EXISTING RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REC CLA IN THE NORTH AND EAST FACADES WITH NEW MATERIALS, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS.
OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, AT THE, AT THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING, UH, IN, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, THE APPLICATION IS TO RECL THE, UH, CORNER, THE CHAMFORD CORNER OF A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
I APOLOGIZE, I'M GETTING MY DOCUMENTS HERE OF A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
THE, THE BOARD HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSION ITEMS AND HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, AND THE BOARD CONTINUED THE ITEM.
UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE BOARD WANTED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER MODIFICATIONS TO DESIGN TO BA MAKE THE BUILDING MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ARCHITECTURE AND ADD VIS, UH, VISUAL INTEREST ALONG THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE SUBMITTED SOME REVISED PLANS.
THEY'RE DATED NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025.
THEY INCLUDE ADDING A BRICK VENEER ACROSS AN ADDITIONAL SECTION OF THE EASTERN AND NORTHERN ELEVATIONS.
UH, THE PLANS WERE ALSO UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT THE WOODS, THAT THE ROOF, UH, STRUCTURE WOULD BE MADE OF SLATE AS OPPOSED TO ASPHALT SHINGLES.
SINCE ASPHALT SHINGLES ARE PROHIBITED BY THE CODE, UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, UM, LAST WEEK SUBMITTED A PRESENTATION AND HAS A FEW OTHER DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, UH, FOR YOUR DISCUSSION, UM, TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY PREFERENCE AS TO ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER.
UM, SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE, TO THE APPLICANT TO, TO PRESENT THOSE OPTIONS TO THE BOARD.
UM, BUT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER.
MORNING BEFORE WE START, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, UH, EX PARTY DISCLOSURES? ACTUALLY ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS? I MET WITH THE APPLICANTS TO DISCUSS THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED HERE.
ANYONE ELSE OKAY WITH THAT? UM, WE'LL SET THE CLOCK AT 10 MINUTES
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IF THAT'S OKAY.DO YOU NEED MORE TIME AS A, AS A RABBI? 10 MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH.
UH, UM, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR SEEING THIS A SECOND TIME.
UM, AS PART OF OUR 40 YEAR RECERTIFICATION, WE WERE REQUIRED TO CHANGE THE EXISTING CHATTAHOOCHEE THAT WAS ON THE FACADE.
AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN APPROVAL TO REDESIGN THE FACADE IN A STYLE THAT IS MODELED AFTER SEVEN 70 EASTERN PARKWAY IN NEW YORK.
THAT'S THE WORLD HEADQUARTERS OF THE HABAD LOVICH MOVEMENT.
SO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN.
I WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE LAST YEAR BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY THERE.
WHY THIS DESIGN IS APPROPRIATE, MEANINGFUL, AND DESERVING OF APPROVAL, AND WHY WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT IT BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT ANY FURTHER MODIFICATIONS.
WE DID DO MODIFICATIONS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THE WAY IT IS.
THE BUILDING IS THE HEADQUARTERS OF HABAD IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
OUR INSTITUTION IS THE CENTRAL HEADQUARTERS FOR THIS STATE, SUPPORTING OVER 300 HABAD CENTERS AND INSTITUTIONS STATEWIDE.
THESE INSTITUTIONS WERE ACTUALLY BUILT, UH, FOUNDED BY MY FATHER, A BLESSED MEMORY, WHO PASSED AWAY FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS AGO.
AND, UM, I HAVE STEPPED INTO HIS SHOES.
NOT THAT I FEEL THAT I'M WORTHY, BUT I WAS TOLD TO TAKE OVER.
AND, UM, THE CENTER OF THE INSTITUTION STATEWIDE.
THE AR THE ARCHITECTURAL MODEL OF SEVEN 70 IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AND IS IMMEDIATELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HABAD MOVEMENT.
IT'S A UNIFYING AND ICONIC SYMBOL AS THE STATEWIDE HEADQUARTERS.
IT'S BOTH NATURAL AND APPROPRIATE THAT OUR BUILDING REFLECT THAT IDENTITY AROUND THE WORLD.
MORE THAN 41 HABAD CENTERS HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH THIS EXACT DESIGN IN ORDER TO REPRESENT THEIR CONNECTION TO THE GLOBAL MOVEMENT.
HABAD HAS A MOVEMENT AROUND THE WORLD.
I JUST LAST WEEK WAS AT THE ANNUAL CONVENTION WITH OVER 7,000 RABBIS FROM AROUND THE WORLD WHO ATTENDED, UM, ALL AROUND THE GLOBE.
THE RABBI LED THE MOVEMENT FROM THAT BUILDING STARTING IN 1940 WITH MILLIONS OF VISITORS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
ITS DESIGN HAS BECOME A SACRED AND UNIFYING EM, UNIFYING EMBLEM FOR THE HABAD COMMUNITIES WORLDWIDE.
IMPORTANTLY, THE REVY EXPLICITLY ENCOURAGED BUILDING REPLICAS WITH PRECISE DIMENSIONS SO THAT CENTERS AROUND THE WORLD COULD REFLECT THAT CONNECTION AND CONTINUITY.
APPROVING THIS FACADE WILL ALLOW US TO FULFILL THAT VISION.
MY FATHER HAD THAT VISION, HE WANTED TO BUILD THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO FULFILL THAT LEGACY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY, WHICH HE ACTUALLY CAME HERE IN 1960 AND BUILT THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND AS WE KNOW IT TODAY IN MIAMI BEACH AND AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
AND I FEEL THAT HE'S DESERVING IN HIS MEMORY THAT THIS HONOR BE AFFORDED TO HIM.
WE ARE NOT ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BLIGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SO OUT OF CHARACTER.
WE'RE NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PRESERVATION DISTRICT.
AND THE FACADE WOULD ADD OR ADD COLOR VIBRANCY, AC ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST AND CULTURAL VALUE TO THE AREA.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DIVERSE AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL BECOME AN UPLIFTING LANDMARK FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO MIAMI BEACH.
IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS HEARING, WE MADE SUBSTANTIAL REVISIONS WHERE WE FELT WE COULD, WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REPLICATE.
WE EXTENDED, AS YOU HEARD BEFORE, THE BRICK TO THE SIDES, WHICH WAS ONE SUGGESTION.
WE CREATED A MORE CONTINUOUS INTEGRATED APPEARANCE WITH THE REST OF THE WALLS.
SO IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE AN ARTIFICIAL FACADE, LIKE A MOVIE SET.
AND THESE CHANGES SHOULD ADDRESS MANY OF YOUR CONCERNS.
STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AS I SEE AUTOMATIC APPROVAL, BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND IT.
WHICH LEADS ME TO ANOTHER POINT.
WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS, THERE'S A FEDERAL LAW CALLED R LUPA.
I CANNOT TELL YOU A LEGAL OPINION.
HOWEVER, I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH A NUMBER OF CASES
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WITH OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON SYNAGOGUES, AND THE COURTS OVERTURNED THOSE RESTRICTIONS AT GREAT COST TO THE CITIES.I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ADVERSARIAL EITHER, GOD FORBID, IN ANY WAY.
BUT THE CODE WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS FROM BEING OVERBURDENED READS AS FOLLOWS SOMEWHAT TO THIS.
IT'S NOT AN EXACT QUOTE, BUT UNLESS THE, THE, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT PLACE ANY BURDEN ON AN INSTITUTION OF RELIGIOUS EXERCISE UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT CAN SHOW A COMPELLING INTEREST THAT THE REGULATION IS THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE WAY TO ACHIEVE IT, STAFF HAVE APPROVED IT, WHICH IS AN INDICATION THAT IT'S NOT THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN.
I THINK IT'S THE BEST THING, BUT DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS, UH, DIFFICULTY FOR THE CITY.
DENYING OR ALTERING A DESIGN THAT IS RELIGIOUSLY MEANINGFUL TO OUR CONGREGATION SHOULD REQUIRE A CLEAR, COMPELLING AND MATERIAL JUSTIFICATION.
WITHOUT SUCH JUSTIFICATION IMPOSING CHANGES ON THE SYNAGOGUE'S, RELIGIOUSLY SIGNIFICANT FACADE MAY CONFLICT WITH FEDERAL STANDARDS REQUIRING THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS.
THIS IS, THIS FACADE IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR IDENTITY AS FLORIDA'S HABAD HEADQUARTERS IS DEEPLY MEANINGFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY, SPIRITUALLY SIGNIFICANT, AND IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE RESPONDED TO YOUR CONCERNS, DEMONSTRATED FLEXIBILITY WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
I NOW RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE PROPOSED DESIGN WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ALTERATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONSIDERATION, AND PARTNERSHIP IN HELPING US COMPLETE THIS IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL PROJECT.
DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TOWARDS THE DESIGN CHANGES? JA SHAPIRO, I'M, UH, THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING UP A SLIDE? YEAH, DO.
YOU KNOW, I WILL GO DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, TO THE ISSUE OF THE FACADE, AND I'M GOING TO SHOW THE DIFFERENT PROPOSAL WE HAVE RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
SHOW THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO DO.
SHOW THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO, PARDON? YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD GET DIRECTLY TO THE ONE THAT I TOLD YOU WE WANT TO DO.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE FACADE, YOU KNOW, WHICH, UH, THE RABBI AND, UH, AND THE, THE BOARD OF HABA, UH, LIKES THE BEST.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, NUMBER ONE, THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE IS THE COLOR OF THE BRICK.
WHAT WE'RE USING NOW IS A CHICAGO BRICK, THE LIGHTEST COLOR, YOU KNOW, THE MANUFACTURER.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT WAS A REQUEST I BROUGHT.
AND WE, I HAVE HERE A SAMPLE OF THE BRICK, BASICALLY THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH IS THE REPLICA.
UH, IT HAS THAT BRICK AND IT HAS APPLICATION, WHICH WILL BE DONE WITH CASTSTONE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO MANUFACTURE THAT IN, IN REAL STONE.
BUT THE CASTSTONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT HAS THE QUALITY AND THE COLOR.
I HAVE ALSO SAMPLES WHO, WHO ONE SAMPLE OF THE COLOR OF THE CASTSTONE.
NOW WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS ON BOTH SIDES, UH, BY THE WAY, THE FACADE THAT, UH, WE'RE SHOWING THERE, IT SHOWS, UH, AS A FULL FACADE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE TWO ELEMENTS ON THE SIDE, THEY GO IN 45 DEGREES.
BUT IN ORDER TO SHOW THE FACADE ITSELF, I'M SHOWING IT IN, IN THE, THE REAL DIMENSIONS.
THE FIRST MODULE, SORRY, THE FIRST MODULE IS THE SAME BRICK, SAME COLOR, AND THE SCORING OF THOSE PANELS, THEY HAVE THAT
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PEAK OR THAT 45, UH, DEGREE, UM, ELEMENT ON THE TOP, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO, IN THE FIRST, UH, MODULE, WE WILL FILL BOTH SIDES WITH, UH, WITH THE SAME SLATE, THE SAME COLOR.THE NEXT ONE, THEY WILL KEEP THE SCORING AND THEY HAVE A BANDING, WHICH IS, IT COMES FROM THE MAIN BUILDING, BUT IT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH IN TWO POINTS, WHICH MAKES, UH, IT INTEGRATES THE REST OF THE FACADE TO THE MAIN FACADE IN THE CORNER.
UH, AND IN THOSE CASES, THEY ARE GOING TO BE PAINTED.
THE COLOR OF THE PAINT IS GOING TO BE SIMILAR, MAYBE A LITTLE A SHADE, EH, LIGHTER THAN THE BRICK ITSELF.
I HAVE ALSO SOME SAMPLES FOR THAT.
AND, UM, IN THE, WHERE THE STA IS GOING, WE'RE GOING TO BE PAINTING THE TWO TRIANGLES ON THE SIDE, UH, WITH THE SAME COLOR AS THE, THE ROOF'S LAID.
BASICALLY THAT'S THE PROPOSAL AND THAT'S THE WHAT, UH, THE RABBI WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UM, I DO YOU HAVE THE, THE SAMPLES HERE? I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO SEE WE CAN PASS 'EM AROUND.
AND I THINK ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, IF WE CAN PUT ON THE, UM, FIRST ONE, THE PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS THE FACADE.
UM, IS IT THIS WIDE? ON, ON THE EAST SIDE, ON ALTAR ROAD? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU START AGAIN? I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.
IS THIS THE ACTUAL FACADE OR IS IT, OR ARE YOU REPLICATING OR ARE YOU PUTTING IN THE ONE FROM NEW YORK? THIS IS, NO, THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
OH, YOU'RE PROPOSING ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND DOES IT SHOW WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE ON THE NORTH SIDE? YOU'RE ON THE CORNER.
WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING IS BOTH THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE.
THE, THE REPLICATED FACADE IS ONLY THE CORNER.
IT'S THE 45 DEGREES ON THAT RENDER IS SHOWING THE FIRST PANEL BEING COVERED.
BRICK IS A BIT DARKER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IS ON SHADE.
AND YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE TRIANGLE, WHICH MM-HMM
WILL BE THE SAME MATERIAL AS THE ROOF.
AND THIS FACADE CONTINUES ON THE, THE FACADE CONTINUES ON THE EAST AND ON THE NORTH, ON THE WEST AND SOUTH, YOU'RE JUST DOING STUCCO AND PAINT.
SIMILAR TO THE COLOR OF THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE.
AND THE ROOF IS A SHINGLES ROOF? THE NO, IT IS A, UM, SLATE ROOF SLATE.
'CAUSE UM, ROGELIO ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IN NEW YORK, IT HAS A SLATE ROOF.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE SAME COLOR IN PAGE THREE OF SEVEN OF OUR PROGRAM, OF OUR ITEM.
THE VERY, VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT SATISFY 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF, BUT IT'S LATE.
THE, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD HAD AN ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF NO CHANGED.
SO NOW IT'S AS PART OF THE UPDATE THAT THAT NO LONGER APPLIES.
SO, SO THAT, THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER STRICKEN.
WE TYPICALLY, WHEN WE HAVE CHANGES, WE LIKE TO, WE JUST INCLUDE THOSE IN AN UPDATE SECTION.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRESSION OF THE PROJECT.
AND, AND SO THE, THE LIGHTER STONE, WHAT IS, HOW IS THIS GONNA BE USED? UH, THAT WILL BE THE CAST STONE, YOU KNOW, UH, IF YOU SEE AROUND THE WINDOWS OR THE WINDOWS, YOU HAVE THE ARCH AROUND THE MAIN DOOR IS ALL IN THE BUILDING IS ALL REAL STONE.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WE'RE IMITATING THE COLOR, THE PICTURE, AND THE SHAPE, THE FORM, THE DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
AND WHERE DOES THIS ONE, THAT, THAT'S THE BRICK FROM THE, THE COLOR OF THE ACTUAL BRICK IN THE FRONT.
WE MADE IT A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
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COVERING THE ENTIRE SIDE, THE FRONT FACADE AND FRONT THE NORTH SIDE AND THE, UM, THE TWO BEGINNING SIDES.AND THEN THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THE CAST RIGHT ABOVE, ABOVE THE DOOR, ALL THE BANDING, ALL THE BANDING IS GONNA BE OUT OF THAT.
SO YOU HAVE THAT AROUND THE WINDOWS, AROUND THE DOORS.
AND UH, THE PEAKS HAVE THAT ON THERE AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY MORE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? NO.
OR DO YOU JUST WANNA LEO TO QUESTIONS? YEAH, QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY AVAILABLE ONLINE? ANYBODY ONLINE? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE PUBLIC PORTION OPENING UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.
UM, SO, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA, SO WITH THE CAST, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY BE CASTING STONE, YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE MAKING, USING THIS TO CARVE TO YEAH.
RECREATE THE CORRECT, CORRECT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE CORAL STONE? YES.
AND THEN, AND DID YOU SEE THAT THE SIDES ARE NOT BRICK, THEY'RE PAINTED, THEY'RE STUCCO WITH PAINT? YEAH.
WHAT IS THE MATERIAL, THE SECTION THAT'S SORT OF ON THE FACADE THAT'S STICKING OUT? IS THAT MADE OF WOOD OR IS THAT PAINTED AS WELL? THE CENTER ON THE SECOND STORY, THE, THE WINDOW, THE MATERIAL, THE BROWN PORTION IS WOOD.
AND THE, THE BUILDING HAS, WITH CORAL, THE REAL BUILDING IS A LITTLE BIT DARKER.
WHAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE FULL BUILDING, MUCH, MUCH LIGHTER.
THE ORIGINAL DOOR IS DARKER, BUT IS WOOD.
AND THEN, AND YOU SHOWED TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF, UM, THE REST OF THE FACADE TO, TO GET, AND IF ANY OF US, BUT YOU PREFER THE ONE THAT THE TRIANGLES ARE MORE VISIBLE.
SO ROGELIO, WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS TO VOTE ON THE PROJECT, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE NOW WITH THE ROOFING MATERIALS, WHICH WAS THE ONLY SECTION THAT WAS NOT COMPLIANT.
SO WHEN WE TAKE THE VOTE, WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION, WE JUST MAKE A MOTION APPROVING THE DESIGN OF THE STRUCTURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE READY.
I THINK, I THINK THIS IS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN OF THE, UM, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION AT 1140 ALTON ROAD AND AS PRESENTED HERE TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT THAT CLARIFIED THAT IT WOULD BE THE VERSION THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE POWERPOINT, UM MM-HMM
WITH THE, THE, THE, THE SIDES THAT ARE BOTH THE, THE LIGHT COLOR PEACH AND THEN RIGHT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT IT'S INDEED THESE MATERIALS AND THESE COLORS THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE, THAT THAT'S PART OF THE APPROVAL.
MAY, MAY I ASK FOR ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.
THEY HAD AN OPTION WHERE THE FIRST SECTION WAS STONE, AND THEN THEY HAD ANOTHER OPTION WHERE THE FIRST SECTION WAS JUST THE STUCCO, UH, AFTER THE CHAFER CORNER, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PREFER THAT FIRST SECTION TO BE OF THE, OF THE BRICK MATERIAL OR OF THE STUCCO MATERIAL? I PERSONALLY, I WOULD PREPARE, UH, PREFER OBVIOUSLY OF THE BRICK MATERIAL, THE BRICK.
BUT I THINK COST IS PLAYING INTO, UM, EFFECT HERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE INSTITUTION CAN AFFORD IT.
OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY CAN CONTINUE MM-HMM.
IN MY OPINION, THE BRICK AND THE, UH, CORAL ON THE SIDES, UM, IT WOULD MAKE IT FOR A MUCH NICER, UM, THAT'S SLIDE 9.6, BUT YEAH.
BUT THAT, THAT, I DON'T THINK IF THEY FIND THE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, THEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD.
MY, MY NEXT THING IS GONNA MAKE AN APPEAL HERE FOR
WE'RE APPROVING IT WITH THE DESIGN AS PRESENTED HERE TODAY, WHICH IS WITH THIS JUST ON THE CENTER OF ONE SECTION.
I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TO PUT BRICK ON, I, I REALLY LIKE, I REALLY LIKE THIS COMBINATION OF BRICK AND THEN PAINTED STUCCO.
AND I DID NOTICE TOO THAT YOU'RE EXTENDING THE STONE, YOU KNOW, AROUND WHICH I THINK ALSO THE, THE,
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I REALLY LIKE THESE CHANGES BECAUSE IT FEELS COHESIVE.AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT LAST TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION I JUST MADE TO, OH, I JUST WANT, I APOLOGIZE.
WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY THE, THE, THE BRICK GOING AROUND, I THINK THAT WAS THE QUESTION AROUND TO THE NO, I MEANT THAT, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, A LINE OF LIMES BAND.
YOU HAVE TO SORT OF ZOOM IN TO SEE IT.
BUT ONLY SO ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ON THE ENTIRE EAST SIDE.
UM, AND SO THEN THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE APPROVING IS WHERE THE BRICK IS ON THE MAIN CORNER FACADE, AND THEN ONE SECTION ON EACH SIDE? WE DO.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE, CAN YOU BRING UP THE DESIGN AGAIN? THE ONE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE JUST YEAH, I, I WANNA JUST VERIFY WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND I, I THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING OUR COMMENTS AND MAKING THESE CHANGES.
I HOPE YOU LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS.
I THINK IT, THEY WERE VERY CONSTRUCTIVE AND USING THE CORAL STONE INSTEAD OF A CONCRETE PRECAST YES.
I THINK THAT'LL BE A NICE FEATURE FOR BUILDING.
SO THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE APPROVING TODAY.
SO, SO SARAH'S AMENDMENT PAGE 13, CAN YOU BRING UP PAGE 13 OF THE PRESENTATION? SO, SO HERE WHAT I'M SAYING, THE FIRST PANEL HAS THE, THE BRICK, THE BRICK VINEYARD, THE FIRST PANEL, UM, THAT IS NEXT TO THE, NEXT TO THE CORNER ON BOTH SIDES.
RIGHT AT THAT BRICK VINEYARD ON BOTH SIDES.
THEY HAD, THEY, THEY SHOWED ANOTHER OPTION THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT, THAT IT WAS THE, THE, THE, THIS BRICK FACADE ON THE CORNER.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE PANELS WERE ALL STUCCO WITH THE, WITH THE BRICK, WITH THE BANDING.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
UM, HOW COME YOU DECIDED TO ADD, TO KEEP IT THERE? OR WAS THERE ANY SORT OF, WHAT DO YOU MEAN DESIGN INTENT TO JUST HAVE ONE PANEL WITH THE BRICK AND HAVE, AND NOT HAVE IT PAINTED? WELL, WE FIGURED THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONTINUATION BECAUSE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL COMPLETE THE FACADE, YOU KNOW, WILL GIVE THE THIRD DIMENSION TO THE FACADE.
AND THEN THE REST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT HAS THE SAME IDEA, THE SAME CRITERIA IN TERMS OF DESIGN.
THE COLOR IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY THE SAME IS CONNECTED, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BAND, WHICH IS THE CAST, UH, CAST STONE.
I FEEL THAT IF WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE REST OF THE BUILDING, THAT PART OF THE BUILDING REALLY CONNECTS AND IS WITHIN, UM, THE, UH, DESIGN, UH, DESIGN A LANGUAGE OF THE REST OF THE REST OF, UH, OF THE SURROUNDING, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERNISTIC.
AND THE, THE, THE BEAUTY IS THAT IT WORKS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, THEY RELATE.
AND THEN I'M SEEING ON THE, ON THE PAINTED SECTIONS, THERE'S SCORING.
IS THAT WHAT'S THERE ALREADY? YES.
THAT SCORING ALREADY EXISTS, YOU KNOW, IS AND YOU'RE JUST PAINTING OVER IT.
SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA SHOW AS MUCH.
DOING NOW IS TO REPAINT THAT WITH THE COLOR THAT, UH, I'M SHOWING, WHICH IS WITHIN THE COLOR OF THE, OF THE BRICK.
AND THE BAND YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN FURTHER ON THE EAST SIDE PAST THE THREE PANELS? YES.
WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, INSTEAD OF USING PAINT, USE THE BREAK THAT IS PROPO THAT IS BEING USED IN THE FRONT.
WHICH VAN WERE YOU REFERRING? NO, I WAS REVERTING TO, THERE'S A HORIZONTAL VAN.
IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS PICTURE.
SO IT'S HORIZONTAL AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE MADE OF THE STONE.
WOULD YOU MIND GOING TO PAGE A 9.4 AND, AND THEN AGAIN, AND THEN SHOWING AFTER THAT A 9.6? I THINK THAT SHOWS CLEARLY THE TWO AND 9.6 IS WHAT I, IS, WHAT I ASSUME THE BOARD IS, IS, IS AGREEING UPON.
SO HERE, HERE YOU COULD SEE THE BAND ON THIS THAT GOING ON BOTH SIDES, ON 12TH STREET AND ON ALTON ROAD YOU COULD SEE THE BAND OF THE CORAL THAT TRAVELS THE WHOLE WAY ACROSS.
THAT'S THE BAND WE'RE REFERRING TO.
AND THEN HERE YOU SEE THAT THAT FIRST PANEL ALSO HAS THE, THE, THE BRICK.
WHEREAS IF YOU GO TO THEN PAGE A 9.4 MM-HMM
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I SEE THE NUMBERS.THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BRICK IN THAT OPTION ON THE, ON THAT FIRST PANEL.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
IF THE BOARD HAS ANY PREFERENCE AS TO EITHER OF THOSE TWO.
MY PREFERENCE FOR THE MOTION? NO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE.
THAT, THAT IS THE ONE THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE.
YOU SEE THERE IS A CONTINUATION OF THE BAND AND THAT BAND CONTINUES ALL THE WAY THE FACADE.
AND YOU CAN SEE TOO TO THE LEFT OF THE SECTION THAT HAS, SORRY, THE PRICK.
THAT, THAT SORT OF SCORING IT, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA SEE IT AS MUCH.
THIS IS JUST PART OF THE RENDERING.
IT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER OF AN INCH, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA NOTICE IT.
THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THIS DESIGN AS WE'RE FINE WITH THE BRICK ON EACH SIDE, EITHER ONE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF WE ONLY, IF YOU PREFER NOT TO HAVE THE BRICK ON THE SIDES, WE'RE FINE WITH IT.
THAT'S NOT THE, FOR US TO MAKE IT OR BREAK IT.
WE DID THE BRICK TO, TO MAKE IT MORE CONTINUOUS.
WE FELT THAT WOULD BE BETTER, WAS ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY LESS EXPENSIVE IF THEY DON'T DO THOSE EXTRA TWO PANELS.
BUT THE BAND, WE WOULD CONTINUE EITHER WAY.
YEAH, NO, I, I AGREE WITH YOUR ARCHITECT.
I THINK HAVING ONE AND THEN IT'S SORT OF TAPERING OFF.
SO THE MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE DESIGN AS LISTED RIGHT NOW WITH AN ADDITIONAL SIDE OF BRICK ON THE NORTH AND ON THE EAST, I GUESS BEYOND THE THREE, BEYOND THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND CONTINUING THE BAND AS WELL.
THAT WOULD BE AS DEPICTED ON PAGE A 9.6 SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. VALLE, SECOND BY MR. MESH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOU SHOULD ALL BE WELL HEALTHY, HAPPY, AND WEALTHY.
HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL BY YOU BY THE GRAND OPENING.
[6. DRB25-1117, 8101 COLLINS AVENUE.]
ON TO, UH, DRB 25 1 1 1 7 81 0 1 COLLINS AVENUE.THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE STORY COMMUNITY INFORMATION CENTER, MIAMI BEACH LOG CABIN BUILDING WITH AN EXTERIOR PATIO TO BE LOCATED IN A VACANT AREA WITHIN NORTH BEACH OCEAN SIDE PARK.
OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH.
UM, THE BOARD, UM, HAD SEVERAL, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND, UH, AND RECOMMENDED TO THE APPLICANT SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING, UH, FURTHER EXAMINING THE DESIGN NARRATIVE TO CONSIDER MORE TRADITIONAL DESIGN ELEMENTS, OR ALTERNATIVELY GO FOR A MORE CONTEMPORARY APPROACH.
TO REFERENCE THE, UH, TO REFERENCE THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN DESIGN, THEY REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT EVALUATE THE PROPOSED STONE WALL.
THEY, UH, REQUESTED THAT, UH, THE BOARD REQUESTED THAT, UM, THAT APPLICANT EXPLORER WINDOW STYLES THAT ARE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE DESIGN APPROACH, WHETHER THEY DECIDE TO GO MORE TRADITIONAL OR MORE CONTEMPORARY, UH, RECOMMENDED USING MORE ECO-FRIENDLY MATERIALS AND RECOMMENDED PROVIDING A WATER FOUNTAIN.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, THIS, THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY HAS, UH, UPDATED THE PLANS AND MADE SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT, THE DESIGN TEAM HAS RECOMMENDED REPURPOSING THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN WOOD FOR CUSTOM MILLWORK AND FURNITURE SUCH AS BOOKSHELVES AND RECEPTION DESK.
THE EXISTING FIREPLACE FROM THE LOG CABIN WILL BE RE RETAINED TO PRESERVE A SENSE OF HISTORY IN PLACE.
UM, SO THEY'VE CLARIFIED THAT, UH, MOST OF THE HEAVY STONE WALL ON THE FRONT OF THE FACADE WILL BE REPLACED WITH AN ALUMINUM RAILING TO MODERNIZE THE SPACE.
UM, CORAL STONE NATIVE TO FLORIDA, UM, AND ALREADY FEATURED IN THIS FIREPLACE WILL BE USED ON THE RETAINING WALL SECTIONS ON, ON CERTAIN RETAINING WALL SECTIONS TO CREATE A LIGHTER, MORE OPEN ATMOSPHERE.
UH, WINDOWS WILL BE UPDATED TO A DOUBLE HUNG STYLE ALIGNING WITH A MORE TRADITIONAL LOG CABIN AESTHETIC.
UH, THE DOOR HAS BEEN REDESIGNED AS A SINGLE ENTRY WITH TWO SIDE WINDOWS.
UM, THEY'VE PROVIDE DETAILED ASSEMBLY DRAWINGS OF THE BOARD, I BELIEVE REQUESTED SOME MORE DETAILS ON, ON ON THAT.
UM, THE MONUMENT SIGN HAS BEEN REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A WALL MOUNTED SIGN ABOVE THE ENTRY PORCH.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS INCORPORATED A WATER FOUNTAIN.
UM, SO THE, THE, THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING SOME MATERIAL SAMPLES FOR THE BOARD'S REVIEW AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED.
VERY MUCH ANY DISCLOSURES FROM THE BOARD.
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MORNING, COLETTE SATCHEL, OFFICE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.UM, WE REALLY WELCOMED YOUR COMMENTS, UM, DURING THE LAST MEETING, AND I THINK THE RESULTING DESIGN IS MUCH IMPROVED.
IT ALMOST SEEMS MORE FLORIDA, MORE MIAMI BEACH.
UM, I'LL LET OUR TEAM BE EA GO AHEAD AND RUN YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE.
MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS SOPHIA RAMOS.
I'M WITH BEA ARCHITECTS, I'M JOINED WITH ROBERT DRAPER, WHO'S THE VP AT BEA.
AND UM, YEAH, THE FOCUS TODAY WILL JUST BE TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAD IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
UM, HOPING TO JUST BE BRIEF AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO JUST TO RE ORIENT YOURSELVES, THIS IS THE LOG CABIN AS IT USED TO STAND, BUILT IN 1934 IN THE C***K TECHNIQUE STYLE OF, UH, LOGGING LOG CABIN.
SO, UM, ROGELIO HIGHLIGHTED THESE, UM, COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU ALL.
MAIN THING WAS THE DESIGN NARRATIVE AND CONCEPT, UM, AND BEING CLEAR ON HOW WE ARE, UM, DIRECTING THAT THROUGH THE LOG CABIN DESIGN.
SO FOR THE EXTERIOR, WE ARE GOING WITH A MORE CONTEMPORARY APPROACH.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON WITH THE RENDERINGS.
UM, AND FOR THE INTERIOR, WE'RE GOING BACK AND PAYING HOMAGE TO THE ORIGINAL CABIN, UM, HIGHLIGHTING THE, UM, THE REUSE OF THE, THE CHIMNEY AND THE FIREPLACE AND MAKING THAT THE HEARTH OF THE CABIN.
THE SALVAGE MATERIALS WERE REUSING THE WOOD, UM, FOR, UM, SOME MILLWORK AND FURNITURE PIECES.
UM, THE MATERIAL UNMASKING AGAIN, WE, UM, THERE WAS CONCERN FROM THE BOARD ABOUT THE HEAVY STONE WALL AND SUGGESTED, UM, EXTENDING THE RAILING.
UM, AND WE'VE HAVE SOME SAMPLES FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT TODAY.
AND, UM, THE DOORS AND WINDOWS, AS ROGELIO SAID, THE WINDOWS ARE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN A LOG CABIN DESIGN.
THE DOOR IS SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
UM, WE HAVE SOME DETAILS FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND THEN WE'VE ADDED IN THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN.
SO HERE ON THE LEFT YOU'LL SEE AN INSPIRATION IMAGE OF, UM, THIS WOOD, UM, BOOKSHELF.
WHEN WE DID AN ASSESSMENT, WHEN THE ASSESSMENT WAS DONE ON THE LAG CABIN, ORIGINALLY THE WOOD WAS NOT FOUND AS STRUCTURALLY SOUND, SO WE'RE USING IT IN A MORE DECORATIVE WAY.
AND THESE, UM, BOOK, UH, SHELVES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE GONNA BE FLANKING THE FIREPLACE AGAIN, WHICH IS SYMBOLIC OF THE HEART OF THE LOG CABIN.
AND AS, UH, WE MENTIONED WE ARE REUSING THE FIREPLACE OF CHIMNEY.
JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE SITE TO REORIENT YOURSELVES PROXIMITY MAP, SITE PLAN, AND THE ENLARGED SITE PLAN.
ONE THING TO NOTE IS, UM, WE HAVE ACCESS FROM THREE SIDES.
SO AS COLETTE MENTIONED, IT'S VERY OPEN AND INVITING TO THE PARK.
UM, THIS IS OUR DIGITAL MATERIAL BOARD.
UM, AFTER WE FINISH THE PRESENTATION, WE CAN HAND OUT SOME OF THE PHYSICAL SAMPLES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A FEW TO KNOW ARE THE WOOD LOG SIDING MATERIAL, WHICH IS INTENDED TO, UM, MATCH THE OR STAIN TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL LOG CABIN DESIGN.
UM, WE HAVE SOME, THE CORAL STONE, WHICH IS USED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE COLUMNS, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO MATCH THE FIREPLACE.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST ONE THAT I WANNA POINT OUT IS THE GLAZING USED ON THE CABIN.
UM, THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S REFLECTIVE ON THE OUTSIDE, SO YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN SEE OUT FROM THE INSIDE.
SO THE REFLECTIVE NATURE IS NICE BECAUSE YOU CAN REF WHEN YOU'RE ON THE OUTSIDE THE PARK AND THE TREES AND ALL THE NATURE ELEMENTS ARE REFLECTED, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE DESIGN OF THE CABIN, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHERE A CABIN WOULD BE IN.
SO HERE I'LL RUN THROUGH A FEW OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE'VE UPDATED.
UM, HERE, THIS, I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT THE, THE OVERALL CONCEPT.
I GUESS THE EXTERIOR, AGAIN, IS MORE CONTEMPORARY, MORE SLIGHTLY MODERN.
YOU SEE THAT WITH THE METAL ROOF, THE ALUMINUM RAILING, THE DARK TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS AND THE DOORS.
THIS IS A NEW CABIN, AND WE ALSO WANNA MAKE IT RESILIENT AND LONG STANDING, GIVEN THAT IT'S IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA CLIMATE.
YOU ALSO CAN KIND OF SEE HERE THE REFLECTIVE NATURE OF THE GLASS REFLECTING THE TREES AND THE PARK AROUND IT.
WE CAN ALSO SEE, UM, THAT WE'VE ELIMINATED MOSTLY ALL OF THE HEAVY STONE WALL THAT YOU ALL WERE CONCERNED WITH, AND REPLACED IT WITH THE
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METAL RAILING ONLY WHERE CODE REQUIRED SO THAT YOU REALLY GET THIS OPEN FEELING.YOU HAVE CLEAR SIGHT LINES, YOU CAN SEE INTO THE CABIN, SEE OUTTA THE CABIN, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S OPEN AND INVITING TO THE PARK.
AND THEN AT NIGHT YOU SEE THAT IT'S VERY WELL LIT, MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING AROUND IT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING, GRAZING THE FACADE, SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE, THE CHINKING STYLE OF THE, OF THE CABIN.
THEN MOVING ON TO THE INSIDE, THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO THE MORE TRADITIONAL STYLE OF THE CABIN.
WE WANT IT TO BE FOCUSED AROUND THE HEART OF THE CABIN, WHICH IS THE FIREPLACE.
THAT'S ALSO, UM, EMPHASIZED EVEN MORE WITH THE BOOKSHELVES THAT WE'RE FLAKING ON EACH SIDE.
THAT WILL BE MADE WITH THE REPURPOSED WOOD.
AND THEN THAT'S, UM, EMPHASIZED EVEN MORE SO WITH THE FLOORING MATERIALS.
SO THE CENTER OF THE FIREPLACE, OR THE CABIN, EXCUSE ME, IS A HERRINGBONE PATTERN.
AND THE REMAINDER OF THE FLOOR IS JUST A TRADITIONAL WOOD FLOOR, SOLID WOOD FLOOR.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S WINDOWS EVERYWHERE, SO YOU CAN SEE OUT.
UM, AND THEN BEHIND THE FIREPLACE WE HAVE SOME MORE BACK OF HOUSE SPACES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ADDED IN THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN AS REQUESTED.
THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS ON THE INSIDE, JUST AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING THE FOCUS OF THE CABIN.
YOU CAN SEE THE BOOKSHELVES ON EACH SIDE.
YOU CAN SEE HOW VISIBLE IT IS FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND YOU CAN REALLY ENJOY THE PARK FROM INSIDE AS WELL.
AND THEN THESE ELEVATIONS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AGAIN BASED ON THESE, UM, COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM Y'ALL.
SO HERE ACTUALLY HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRY WITH THE SINGLE DOOR AND THE SIDELIGHTS ON EACH SIDE.
NOW GOING INTO THE SECTIONS, YOU CAN START TO SEE SOME OF THE WALL ASSEMBLIES, UH, COMING INTO PLAY.
UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, GONNA LAST AND, UM, GIVEN IT'S IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA ENVIRONMENT.
AND, UM, ON THIS PAGE, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT YOU ALL REQUESTED.
SO WE HAVE INTERIOR, EXTERIOR WALL DETAILS, COLUMN TO FOUNDATION DETAILS, AND THEN WALL TO ROOF DETAILS.
IT WAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT WE MODEL THESE IN 3D, SO THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT WAY TO READ.
UM, SO WE HAVE THOSE AS WELL FOR YOU ALL.
AND THIS IS THE WALL TO ROOF CONNECTION AND COLUMN TO ROOF CONNECTION.
FINALLY, OUR SIGNAGE, WE'VE INTEGRATED IT INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF.
UM, WE REMOVED THE, UM, SEPARATE, UH, SIGN.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T, DOESN'T CREATE ANY BARRIERS AROUND THE BUILDING SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT IS.
UM, AND THERE'S NO AREAS OF OBSTACLE FOR, UM, FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN OR YOU FEEL ALL EYES ARE ON THE BUILDING.
UH, OUR FOCUS AGAIN WAS THE COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAD.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HOPE FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ON THE LINE? UM, ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPENING UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SAW THIS, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME DETAILS THAT I KNOW THE BOARD WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, WHICH WAS USING, RECLAIMING THE WOOD TO MAKE SORT OF FURNITURE AND MORE WHIMSICAL CAY.
IS THAT, I'M NOT SEEING THAT HERE.
IS THAT STILL ON THE TABLE OR, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD POINT AT? DID I MISS IT? MAYBE I WASN'T LOOKING SO WELL.
YEAH, I THINK YOU HAVE IT FOR ON THE INSIDE OF THE CABIN USING THE WOOD.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE FURNITURE AND SHELVING WE'RE AROUND THE BOOKSHELF SHELVING AND THEN ALSO AT THE RECEPTION DESK, WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE CORNER OF THIS IMAGE.
YEAH, NO, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT WAS MORE IN THE ORIGINAL ONE.
I GUESS THERE WERE JUST SOME INSPIRATION PHOTOS OF, OF, YEAH, IT WAS MORE SORT OF WHIMSICAL CA I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT? RUSTIC? YEAH.
I MEAN, AND IT WAS JUST DECORATIVE ELEMENTS THAT I THINK REALLY GAVE THE SPACE CHARACTER, UM, THAT I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE ALL RESPONDED TO REALLY WELL.
AND, UM, I WAS HOPING THAT THAT WOULD TRANSLATE.
I CAN EVEN, I GUESS WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.
IS IT STILL IN THERE? FIVE, SIX? MM-HMM
PAGE ONE SIX, PRESENTATION FIVE SIX, SORRY, SHEET FIVE.
SO ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS NOT TO OVER PROMISE AND THEN UNDER DELIVER UHHUH
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KNOW, WE, WE ARE NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF THE WOOD IS GOING TO BE USABLE, SO WE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE EXPECTATIONS OF TOO MANY PIECES BEING RECLAIMED.WE REALLY TRY TO LIMIT IT TO THINGS THAT WE FELT WE COULD DEFINITELY DELIVER AS A PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
I MEAN, WE, WE DO INTEND TO USE EVERY PIECE.
SO, UM, IF, IF WE DO HAVE EXTRAS, OF COURSE MORE DECORATIVE ELEMENTS COULD BE INCLUDED.
AND THEN LAST TIME, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THERE, THERE WAS GONNA BE A PUBLIC MEETING ABOUT THE CABINET.
IS THERE ANYTHING UPDATED THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF IN REGARDS TO THIS? SO IT WAS ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA, BUT WAS NOT HEARD.
UM, I BELIEVE IT IS ON THE, THE DECEMBER 17TH COMMISSION.
IT WAS ROLLED OVER TO THE DECEMBER COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL.
UM, BUT AS I INDICATED, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROCEEDING AS DIRECTED UNTIL WE RECEIVE FURTHER DIRECTION AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE AS DIRECTED.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THIS KEVIN WAS TAKEN DOWN AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE CRAZED, AND I GUESS I'M WORRIED THAT THEY ARE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE EXACT REPLICA WAS GONNA BE BUILT WHEREVER, AND THIS IS NOT THAT.
SO I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S ALL I I, THERE NO ONE'S ON THE PHONE, WHICH IS SHOCKING.
I THOUGHT THERE'D BE PEOPLE REALLY, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT? DEFINITELY.
WE DID PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, MUCH OF THE FEEDBACK WE HAD WAS CONCERNING THE LOCATION.
THEY WANTED IT TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS LOCATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO.
WE WERE DIRECTED TO PLACE IT WITHIN THE PARK CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 82ND AND 81ST, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE.
BUT I, I, I ALSO BELIEVE THIS IS A BETTER LOCATION.
IT'S, IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, BEING WITHIN THE PARK SETTING IS MORE CABIN LIKE.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING LOGIC, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I HEARD, SO I JUST, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT.
IT WAS, DID YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE DESIGN CHANGING FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL WAS? THERE WAS ONE CONCERN ABOUT THE PORCH, BECAUSE THE PORCH IS AN ADDITION TO THE INITIAL DESIGN.
UM, WE DID GET THAT FEEDBACK, BUT THAT'S IT.
THEY THOUGHT THAT THE PORCH WOULD BE SUBJECT TO UPLIFT? YES.
BUT IT IS DESIGNED FOR UPLIFT.
THIS IS THE PORCH IN THE BACK.
THIS IS THE PORCH IN THE BACK, THE WRAPAROUND PORCH.
THE BUILDING DID NOT HAVE A WRAPAROUND PORCH.
THIS ONE WE ARE PROPOSING, BECAUSE TODAY WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE ARE COGNIZANT OF SHADE.
UM, YOU DO WANT PEOPLE TO ENGAGE THE BUILDING.
SO WE, THAT WAS A DESIGN DECISION THAT WE MADE, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT WE, WE EXPLAINED THAT IT IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED TO MEET THE CODE.
WHAT WILL BE THE USE OF THE BUILDING ONCE IT'S DONE.
SO THE, THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROGRAM PROGRAM.
BUT IN THE COMMISSION AGENDA, THE COMMISSION MEMO, WE WERE DIRECTED AS A COMMUNITY MULTI-PURPOSE USE TYPE FACILITY.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY A, A, A INFORMATION CENTER AND SMALL GATHERINGS EDUCATIONAL CENTER.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAD STATED AS A DESIGN DECISION THAT YOU WANTED TO GO IN MORE THE CONTEMPORARY DIRECTION AS OPPOSED TO A MORE TRADITIONAL.
AND, UM, WAS THERE EVER ANY, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER, OVER THE WEEKEND, UM, WAS THERE EVER ANY DISCUSSION OF INSTEAD OF USING BLACK ALUMINUM TO USE MORE SORT OF BROWN OR SOMETHING CLOSER TO A CABIN, OR WE DID, TOOK TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT THE DARK KIND OF TIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THE, UM, THE ROOF, THE, UH, THE RAILING, UM, THE WINDOWS AND THE DOORS.
UM, I THINK IT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER NICELY.
BUT I GUESS, I MEAN, TO HAVE THE ROOF, THE, ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOW BLACK ALUMINUM, TO HAVE THAT BE A BROWN ALUMINUM, THAT'S MORE LOG CAY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EVER YOU, THAT THE GESTURE THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO MAKE IT SEEM MORE CONTEMPORARY IS THIS DECISION TO GO BLACK YEAH.
AS OPPOSED TO BROWN TO SORT OF PICK UP THE WOOD AND, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE, BROWN IS A CHOICE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE KIND OF MAKING IT LOOK MORE LOG CAVITY LOOK LIKE WOOD, BUT HAVING THE MATERIAL LOOK ALMOST NOT LIKE WOOD FOR THOSE CERTAIN ACCENTS IS THE DECISION TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE CONTEMPORARY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD IS READY FOR A MOTION.
THERE WAS ONE IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS.
UM, AND I THINK, I THINK WE'D ALSO MENTIONED THIS ABOUT THE CHOICE OF USING EWOOD AS MAYBE NOT THE MOST SUSTAINABLE.
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ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR THE CITY? I WOULD ALSO THINK IT'S EXPENSIVE.WELL, IF IT HAS A VERY LONG, UM, LIFESPAN UHHUH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SELECTING IT, AS LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN IT PROPERLY.
AH, I REMEMBER THAT WE USED, UM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS WE CAN USE.
THERE WAS, UH, I THINK IT WAS CALLED PENELOPE WOOD ON THE BOARDWALK, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HARDEST WOOD FROM BRAZIL AVAILABLE.
AND YEAH, IT WAS HARD, BUT, UM, MAINTENANCE BECAME THE ISSUE.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN IF IT, YOU KNOW, COME THROUGH OVER THE YEARS IS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BECOME OFTEN ABOUT TO MAKE, HAVE ONE THAT'S MORE SUSTAINABLY SOURCED AND FARMED AND ALL OF THAT.
AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS OUT THERE THAT WE COULD SUBSTITUTE THAT WITH.
I, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER, IT ALSO SEEMS TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND OUR AGENDA OF RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY AND, AND ALL OF THAT TO HAVE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I, I HAVE ONE.
WHAT ARE THOSE GONNA BE? ARE THOSE PREFABS? THOSE ARE GONNA BE TIMBER.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT USING NAIL OR PLATES AND METAL.
OUR CEILING WON'T BE AS NICE AS THE REST OF IT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING THESE REVISIONS.
AND I KNOW LAST TIME I WAS A BIT
AND I THINK THE, THE FIREPLACE IS REALLY GONNA ADD SOME GOOD CHARACTER.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROJECT AT, UM, 81 0 1 COLLINS AVENUE, THE LOG CABIN DRB 25 11 17, SUBJECT TO THE, UH, CONDITIONS ENUMERATED IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
AND THANK YOU FOR A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
A MOTION, MOTION BY MS. VALDI, SECOND BY MR. LESTER.
OH, AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE WATER FOUNTAIN.
SO, ANN, I WAS IN BAY SHORE PARK YESTERDAY AND IT'S FANTASTIC.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE TAKE A, A QUICK 10 MINUTE RECESS.
WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME BACK TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO DISCUSS.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, ACTUALLY LIO, I HAD A, A QUESTION, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN WE, UM, PASSED THE MOTION FOR 1140 ALTON ROAD, DID THAT INCLUDE THE SPECIFICS OF THE MATERIALS? WAS THAT INCLUDED IN THE ORDER? THE YES, I BELIEVE THEY WERE IN THERE.
UM, I WOULD SAY A SIX OR WHATEVER THAT ONE WAS.
THE, THE ONE A, UM, SO A SIX HAS SH IDENTIFIES THE MATERIALS AND, AND THERE ARE CONDITIONS, UH, IN THE ORDER, UH, SAYING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN DETAILS, UM, THE FINAL COLOR MATERIAL AND DESIGN DETAILS OF THE BRICK CLADDING PROPOSED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER ELEVATION, INCLUDING SAMPLES SHALL BE SUBMITTED AND MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF, CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA AND THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.
AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO MEAN THAT IT WAS THE MATERIALS THAT WERE OKAY.
'CAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT, AND I GUESS THAT THEN THE CONVERSATION SHIFTED, YOU KNOW, I'D WANTED TO ADD AN AMENDMENT THAT THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US AT THE MEETING MM-HMM
WERE THE ONES THAT WERE GONNA USE NOT JUST THE SHADE OF BRICK, BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE STONE THAT THEY WERE REQUIRING, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE COLORS FOR THE PAINTED SECTIONS.
SO I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION BASED ON THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD THAT WE RECEIVED, BECAUSE THAT SEEMED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE CRUX OF THEIR DESIGN CHANGES MM-HMM
AND I THINK WHY WE ALL APPROVED IT.
SORRY, I DIDN'T, I I FORGOT THAT.
[7. DRB25-1121, 120 MacArthur Causeway.]
DRB 8 25 11 21 1 20 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY.THIS APPLICATION HAVE BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
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OF A NEW PRIVATE MARINA AND RELATED AMENITIES WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO BE LOCATED ON A VACANT LOT.SO THIS IS, UM, A PRIVATE MARINA LOCATED ON TERMINAL ISLAND.
IT'S IN THE I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UM, THIS IS A LOT THAT'S, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1,601, 161,000 SQUARE FEET, 3.7 ACRES.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, CREATING A, A PRIVATE MARINA FOR THE, FOR THE APPLICANT.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT HAS TWO PRIMARY BUILDINGS.
UM, SO IT'LL HAVE, SO IT'LL HAVE FIRST A ONE STORY GATE HOUSE, A THREE STORY MARINA P PAVILION, A TWO STORY OWNER'S PAVILION, A TWO STORY MARINA OPERATIONS BUILDING, AND SEVERAL OUTDOOR AMENITIES.
UM, AT THE ENTRANCE GATE, THERE WILL BE SIX SURFACE PARKING, UH, SPACES FACING THE STREET, AND, UH, THERE WILL BE A LOADING ZONE TOWARDS ITS REAR.
UM, THE SITE HAS A VERY NARROW ENTRANCE WAY THAT'LL HAVE A TWO STORY DRIVE THAT'LL BE, UH, FLANKED BY CANOPY TREES.
UM, THAT GETS YOU INTO THE MAIN SITE WHERE IT OPENS UP, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LARGER AREA OF THE SITE FRONTING THE WATER.
UM, THE, UH, OWNER'S PAVILION AND THE MARINA PAVILION HAVE SIMILAR FLOOR PLANS AND LAYOUTS.
THEY'RE TWO VERY SIMILAR STYLE BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE BAR SHAPED BUILDINGS.
UM, AND EACH FLOOR HAS A CENTRAL MAIN ROOM, UM, WITH CEILINGS THAT ARE GLAZED, UH, AND FLANKED BY SOME ANCILLARY ROOMS. IT'LL HAVE SEVERAL AMENITIES FOR THE MARINA LOCKERS, BATHROOMS AND SUCH.
UM, THERE'LL BE A GYM ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, AND SEVERAL OTHER, SEVERAL OTHER AMENITIES.
UH, THE MAR OPERATIONS BUILDING WILL HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS AND LOADING BAY AND STORAGE OTHER RESTROOM, UH, OTHER RESTROOMS, LOCKERS, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SPACES, ALL TO SERVICE THE MARINAS.
WE, WE EXPECT VERY, VERY LARGE, UH, YACHTS TO BE, UH, LOCATED AT THIS SITE.
UM, THE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
THEY HAVE, UH, WALLS CLAD AND SLABS OF LIMESTONE RUNNING BANDS OF OF CLEAR STORY WINDOWS, UM, EXPANSIVE LIMESTONE FINISHES, UM, AND PARAPETS.
AND THEN THEY HAVE LARGE PLANES OF GLASS.
UM, AND, AND THAT BREAKS UP THE, UH, UH, AND THE ENTRANCEWAYS BROKEN UP BY, BY DIFFERENT TYPES OF STONE.
UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN OF THE APPLICATION.
THERE ARE NO CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE DESIGN OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE VISIBLE FROM MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SET BACK FAR ENOUGH, UM, WHERE THEY WON'T BE VISIBLE.
THEY WILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE WATERFRONT.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY ARE WELL DESIGNED FROM THE WATERFRONT AND, AND, AND, UM, DO NOT TURN THEIR BACK TO THE WATERFRONT.
UM, THE PROJECT WAS REVIEWED BY THE BISCAY BAY SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, THAT IS A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE ALONG THE WATERFRONT.
UM, THEY'RE TASKED WITH, UH, PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO GENERALLY THAT'S THE COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS PUBLIC BAY WALKS THAT YOU SEE IN MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, AND, AND, AND ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF THE SITE'S LOCATION, IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR PUBLIC ACCESS.
THIS IS AN ISLAND THAT IS IN PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE.
THERE'S, UM, UM, ADJACENT TO THIS SITE IS THE CITY'S FLEET MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS WHERE, UH, THE CITY REPAIRS VEHICLES, UH, GARBAGE TRUCKS, POLICE CARS, UH, FUELS VEHICLES, UH, MAINTAINS VEHICLES.
NEXT TO THAT, THERE'S AN FPL POWER SUBSTATION, UM, ADJACENT TO THE SITE ON, IN, TOWARDS THE EAST IS THE PARKING GARAGE FOR, FOR, UH, FISHER ISLAND, UM, WHERE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK ON FISHER ISLAND WILL PARK THEIR CARS AND THEN TAKE A FERRY, UH, ONTO FISHER ISLAND.
AND THEN ACROSS, THERE'S A CHANNEL ACROSS THAT CHANNEL.
THE COAST GUARD, UH, HAS THEIR PRIMARY OPERATIONS, UH, UH, BASE MIAMI BEACH.
UM, THE, THE, SO THE SITE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR PUBLIC ACCESS.
UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THERE.
UH, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY PUBLIC ACCESS IS NOT NECESS, IS NOT, UM, IS NOT, IS NOT A, NOT A GOOD IDEA AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THERE BE MITIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE PUBLIC SHORELINE.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED MITIGATION OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER LINEAR FOOT.
THIS SITE HAS ABOUT 1300 LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE, SO THAT WOULD RESULT IN A FEE THAT'S NEARLY $1.3 MILLION, UH, TO MITIGATE AGAINST, UH, PROVIDING PUBLIC AGAINST NOT PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.
TO BEGIN WITH, UM, STAFF ANALYZED PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT THIS SITE.
THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY A PROJECT, UM, THAT INCLUDED, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE DRB, THAT WAS TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, AND PARKING GARAGE STRUCTURE.
IN THAT CASE, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED MITIGATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000, AND THAT'S FOR A COMMERCIAL PROFIT MAKING GENER, UH, ENTERPRISE.
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IS A PRIVATE MARINA.IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A COMMERCIAL MARINA.
UM, SO STAFF FEELS THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, NUMBER.
HOWEVER, THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021.
SO WE APPLIED A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ADJUSTMENT THAT RESULTS IN A FEE THAT'S ABOUT $230,000.
THE WAY THE COUNTY CODE WORKS IS THAT THE SHORELINE REVIEW COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ENTITY CHARGED WITH SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS THE ENTITY CHARGED WITH SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER, UM, THE, THIS COMMITTEE CAN RECOMMEND AN ALTERNATIVE MITIGATION FEE.
UH, STAFF HAS INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT ORDER AND MITIGATION FEE OF $230,000 THAT'S PAYABLE TO THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
UH, AND THAT GETS IN, THAT GETS DEPOSITED INTO THE SHORELINE TRUST FUND.
UM, THE CITY THEN HAS THE ABILITY TO REQUEST THOSE FUNDS AND USE THOSE FUNDS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, UH, FACILITIES THAT IMPROVE ACCESS TO BISCAYNE BAY.
SO THAT'S ENHANCEMENTS TO PARKS, TO BAY, WALKS INTO OTHER FACILITIES.
UM, THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
ANY DISCLOSURES FROM THE BOARD? I SPOKE WITH NEESON KADEN BRIEFLY.
IS 10 MINUTES OKAY, ANCE? I THINK I MAY NEED THE 15.
I'LL TRY TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, NEESON KADEN AND CECILIA TORRES, TOLEDO OF AKERMAN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, ONE ISLAND PARK, LLC.
UH, IF WE COULD PUT THE PRESENTATION UP.
UH, WITH ME TODAY AS WELL, ARE SOME OF THE KEY, UH, SIGNERS AND CONSULTANTS FOR THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING GABRIEL CAMPUZANO, WHO IS THE LEAD PROJECT ARCHITECT.
UH, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, DAN MOORE, WHO IS THE MARINA CONSULTANT, AS WELL AS CHRIS CAULEY, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
UH, ROGELIO HAS GIVEN YOU ACTUALLY A VERY THOROUGH REPORT, BOTH IN STAFF REPORT AND VERBALLY, BUT I WOULD WANNA GO OVER A FEW THINGS.
THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TERMINAL ISLAND, AND THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION.
JUST TO FURTHER ORIENT YOU WITH REGARD TO THIS, UH, TO THE, UH, EAST AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION PARKING GARAGE.
AND THE SERVICE FERRY LAUNCH THE, TO THE, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF OUR PROPERTIES, THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE YARD AS, UH, AS ROGELIO HAS POINTED OUT.
AND TO THE WEST OF THAT IS A FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT SUBSTATION.
AND TO THE WEST OF THAT IS THE FISHER ISLAND FERRY FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
ACROSS THE CHANNEL TO THE EAST FROM OUR PROPERTY IS THE COAST GUARD BASE.
SO ALL OF THE USES THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS, WAS DETERMINED AT EVERY LEVEL BY THE COUNTY STAFF, BY THE SHORELINE BOARD ITSELF, BY THE CITY STAFF.
THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PLACE, OF COURSE, TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES.
TAKING IT OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU SEE THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY IN CONTEXT OF THE GREATER AREA.
ITS OTHER MOST IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR IS THE PORT OF MIAMI, WHICH OF COURSE IS THE MAIN PORT FOR THIS COUNTY AND FOR MAIN, UH, CARGO AND PASSENGER PORT FOR SOUTH FLORIDA.
IT IS NOT CLOSE TO ANY RESIDENTIAL USE.
UH, THE CLOSEST USES ARE PROBABLY A THIRD TO A QUARTER, A THIRD OR MORE MILE AWAY.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, THE, THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE AREA IN WHICH THIS IS LOCATED.
UH, I WANNA SHOW YOU AS WELL THE EXISTING USE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, YOU SEE THERE, THERE'S THE ONE STORY BUILDING, WHICH IS AT THE ENTRANCE, WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE NO OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE A MINUTE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND HISTORICALLY HOW THIS SITE HAS BEEN USED FOR DECADES.
IT WAS A, A CARGO TERMINAL PORT WHERE THERE WERE LARGE FREIGHTERS AND HUNDREDS OF, UH, CONTAINER SHIP CONTAINERS, WHICH WERE LOADED AND UNLOADED THERE.
THAT'S HOW THE NAME TERMINAL ISLAND, IN FACT, I THINK CAME ABOUT.
OTHER USES HAVE BEEN EITHER PROPOSED OR MADE OF THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, INCLUDING THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL USES THERE, WHICH DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.
UH, THERE WAS A USE, AND IT CURRENTLY CAN BE USED AS A COMMERCIAL.
UH, UH, UH, MARINA, UH, UH, THAT IS A USE THAT IS, HAS BEEN MADE MOST RECENTLY.
AND ALSO IMPORTANTLY, AND I'LL DEAL WITH THIS IN JUST A MOMENT AS WELL, THERE
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IS A EXISTING APPROVAL FOR A LARGE OFFICE RESTAURANT COMPLEX WITH A COMMERCIAL PORT ON THAT ISLAND.I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE USE THAT HAS EVER BEEN MADE OR PROPOSED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS ALSO BY FAR THE MOST SECURE USE BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE MARINA FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL.
UH, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU NOW THE SITE PLAN, WHICH, WHICH GABE WILL GO INTO IN SOME MORE, SOME MORE DETAIL.
UH, UH, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU AS WELL, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE PRINCIPLE, THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY IS MR. KEN GRIFFIN.
HE IS ALSO BUILDING, UH, HIS PERSONAL RESIDENCE ON STAR ISLAND.
UH, HE HAS, UH, BOATS, WHICH, BECAUSE OF THE DRAFT THAT, UH, THEY DRAW ARE NOT ABLE TO BE DOCKED IN BY HIS RESIDENCE.
SO THIS IS, IN CERTAIN RESPECTS, ALMOST AN EXTENSION OF HIS RESIDENCE, WHERE LARGER BOATS CAN BE BIRTHED FOR HIS, HIS PRIVATE USE AND THE USE OF HIS GUESTS.
I WANT TO TAKE FOR A MOMENT, SHOW YOU WHAT THIS BOARD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
UH, THIS WAS THE OFFICE COMPLEX.
IT WAS TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS, UH, WITH 160,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, PLUS A COMMERCIAL MARINA.
IT ALSO INCLUDED RESTAURANT USAGE OF 120 CAPACITY WITH A HUNDRED SEATS RESTAURANT ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AT THE POINT, AS WELL AS 20 SEATS ON THE WATERFRONT WITH HOURS THAT WERE ALLOWED BY THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD FROM 7:00 AM TO 3:00 AM.
IN OTHER WORDS, A VERY INTENSIVE USE OF THIS PROPERTY SHOW YOU COMPARED TO OURS.
NOW, OF COURSE, THE ARCHITECTURE, I THINK, IS INCREDIBLY ELEGANT AND BEAUTIFUL AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, BUT IT IS VERY LOW IN INTENSITY AND LOW IN ACTIVITY.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW, THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE COAST GUARD BASE OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, WHICH INCLUDES AS WELL, NOT ONLY THE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO A 380, UH, CAR PARKING GARAGE, WHICH OF COURSE WE WILL NOT HAVE AND WE WON'T NEED.
THIS IS WHAT THE VIEW WOULD BE FROM THE COAST GUARD BASE OPEN, UH, LESS INTENSE, VERY SECURE.
FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO JUST COMPARE THE TWO PROGRAMS JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW LESS INTENSE THIS USE IS AND HOW SECURE THIS USE IS.
THE PROJECT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, AS I MENTIONED, WAS NOT ONLY AN OFFICE BUILDING, BUT HAD 120 RESTAURANT SEATS, A HUNDRED A RESTAURANT ON THE TOP OF THE, UH, BUILDING AS WELL AS A, UH, COMMERCIAL MARINA.
THIS IS A PRIVATE USE MARINA FOR A SINGLE USER, WHICH HAS, BY THE WAY, BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE FLOOR AREA, UH, FOR THE OFFICE USE WAS 161,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS LESS THAN 37,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE FOUR BUILDINGS THAT YOU WILL SEE THE BUILDING HEIGHT, 75 FEET FOR THE OFFICE USE.
THIS IS AT ITS HIGHEST POINT, ONE BUILDING WILL BE, UH, SLIGHTLY UNDER 47 FEET.
THERE'S A VAST INCREASE IN OPEN SPACE AS WELL OF 35,000, UH, UH, 35,000 SQUARE FEET COMPARED TO 62,000 UNDER WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND OF COURSE, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, UH, PAR UH, PARKING SPACES AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE PRIVATE USE.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT HAD BETWEEN 220 AND 270, UH, TRIPS.
UH, PEAK DEMAND TIME, WE HAVE BETWEEN ONE AND TWO TRIPS AT PEAK DEMAND TIME.
SO THIS IS, UH, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THAT ISLAND, THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE YARD, THE FISHER ISLAND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, THE COAST GUARD BASE, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BEST NEIGHBOR YOU COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION WITH THAT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME ON THIS.
I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO GABE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MINOR CHANGES TO CONDITIONS I'D LIKE TO DEAL WITH AT THE END.
I'M GABRIEL CAMPANO WITH BMA ARCHITECTS.
WE ARE THE EXECUTIVE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, LIO, I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE THOROUGH DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO, UH, FOCUS MORE ON THE CONCEPTUAL APPROACH OF THE PROJECT AND THE ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION AS, UH, NISSEN WAS DESCRIBING.
THIS PROJECT IS CONCEIVED TO CREATE A REFINED CAMPUS LIKE ENVIRONMENT WITH A CENTRAL OPEN GREEN SPACE.
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CAREFULLY POSITIONED PAVILIONS, UH, ARE SET TO MAXIMIZE VIEWS TO THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST AND THE WATERFRONT.THE STA THE SITE PLAN ESTABLISHES A SERENE AND ORDERLY COMPOSITION, DISTINCT FROM THE INDU INDUSTRIAL CONTEXT SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AERIAL VIEW, WE CAN SEE HOW A CLEAR DESIGN INTENT WITH BUILDINGS THAT REMAIN LOW IN PROFILE TO PREVENT VIEWS, TO PRESERVE VIEWS AND OPENNESS GENERALS, ROOF PLANES AND GLAZING ENHANCED VISUAL LIGHTNESS LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE WORK TOGETHER AS A COHESIVE ENVIRONMENT.
THE ARRANGEMENT REINFORCES BALANCE, CALMNESS, AND A SENSE OF ARRIVAL.
THE ARRIVAL SEQUENCE BEGINS WITH A SINGLE STORY GATE HOUSE.
THIS BUILDING HOUSES ALL SECURITY AND ACCESS CONTROL FUNCTIONS, AND IT ESTABLISHES THE PROJECT'S ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.
FROM THE VERY FIRST MOMENT THAT YOU APPROACH THIS, THE PROJECT, IT SETS THE TONE FOR A CONTROLLED AND ELEGANT ENTRY INTO, INTO THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS ON, ON THE ELEVATIONS.
AND AS YOU CONTINUE ALONG THE TREELINE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS THE MAIN SPINE THAT ORGANIZES, UH, ALL THE LAYOUT OF THE, OF THE PROJECT, THE TWO PRINCIPLE PAVILIONS COME INTO VIEW SITUATED OPPOSITE TO EACH OTHER ON A RACE PODIUM.
TOGETHER, THEY FRAME A CENTRAL COURTYARD FOR RECREATIONAL AND SOCIAL USE.
THIS COURTYARD, UH, UH, HAS A PICKLEBALL COURT AS WELL AS A PADDLE CORD.
THEY FEATURE EXPANSIVE GLAZED OPENINGS ON AN OVERSELLING ROOFS AND OVERSELLING ROOFS.
THESE PAVILIONS ARE PROPORTIONED USING THE PRINCIPLES OF GOLDEN, OF THE GOLDEN RATIO, CREATING A TIMELESS ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER.
THE COURTYARD BECOMES A KEY FEATURE, A QUIET YET ACTIVE HEART OF THE PROJECT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ELEVATIONS ARE FROM THE CREW PAVILION, WHICH IS THE BUILDING THAT WILL HOST, UH, AMENITY SPACES FOR THE CREW THAT COME DOWN FROM THE, FROM THE BOATS.
IT IS THE TALLEST BUILDING, UM, IN THE CAMPUS WITH, WITH THREE STORIES.
AND THIS IS THE OWNER'S PAVILION.
UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY SHARE A COMMON LANGUAGE, UH, A COMMON ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE.
UH, UH, AND THEN IF WE KEEP GOING, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL SEE.
UM, THE MARINA OPERATIONS PAVILION, WHICH IS A MORE UTILITARIAN BUILDING, UH, LOCATED AT THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SIDE.
THIS PAVILION SUPPORTS DAY-TO-DAY MARINE OPERATIONS.
IT IS POSITIONED TO REMAIN DISCREET AND MAINTAIN OPENNESS TOWARDS THE WATER, DESIGNED WITH THE SAME MATERIAL PALETTE AND REFINEMENT AS THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
IT IS FUNCTIONAL, FUNCTIONALLY ORGANIZED FOR HIGHLY EFFICIENT WORKFLOWS.
ITS PLACEMENT ENSURES OPERATIONS DO NOT INTERFERE WITH GUEST EXPERIENCE OR VIEWS.
UM, AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT MORE, UH, ABOUT MATERIALITY, UH, ACROSS, I'LL, I'LL GO BACK TO THIS ONE, TO ONE OF THESE, UM, ACROSS ALL FOUR BUILDINGS, A CONSISTENT ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGES MAINTAINED FEATURING SELENE RESISTANT LIGHT, NATURAL STONE CLADDING, UH, RESPONDING TO DI UH, DIRECTLY TO THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT, A HIGH PERFORMANCE CLEAR, NON TINTED, TINTED LOW IRON GLAZING WITH UV PROTECTION, PAIRED WITH DEEP ROOF OVERHANGS, WHICH WILL ADDRESS YEAR, YEAR ROUND SOLAR PROTECTION FOR THE, FOR ALL BUILDINGS, ELEGANT AND PRECISE DETAILING, REINFORCING, CALM, MONUMENTAL, AND, AND A MONUMENTAL PRESENCE.
THIS PALETTE ENSURES DURABILITY, COHESIVENESS, AND LONG-TERM VISUAL QUALITY.
ONE LINE, ONE ISLAND PARK INTRODUCES A NEW LANDMARK PRESENCE FOR MIAMI BEACH, ONE THAT CONTRASTS AND ELEVATES THE EXISTING SURROUNDING CONTEXT WITH CLARITY AND ARCHITECTURAL PURITY.
NOW I WILL, UH, GIVE THE FLOOR TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO CAN, UH, EXPLAIN THE, THE CONCEPT FOR LANDSCAPE.
UH, CHRIS LEY, CHRISTOPHER LEY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
UM, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TO HELP REPRESENT THIS, UH, AMAZING PROJECT.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, START BY SAYING THAT OUR OFFICE IS WORKING IN ASSOCIATION WITH, UM, PETER WETZ WORTZ INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS LIKE A WORLD RENOWNED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM BASED IN
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BELGIUM.SO IF WE COULD, UH, GO TO THE FIRST, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS, UM, IS A RENDERED MASTER PLAN, AND IT SHOWS OUR OVERALL APPROACH, UM, TO THE GARDEN DESIGN.
UM, AND IN SUMMARY, UH, WE'RE UTILIZING A CONTEMPORARY, UH, YET FORMERLY INSPIRED APPROACH TO THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN, WHERE ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE ORGANIZED IN A MANNER THAT HELPS REINFORCE THE SITE DESIGN AND HELPS TO ACCENTUATE THE BEAUTIFUL, UH, ELEGANT ARCHITECTURE.
OUR FIRST MAIN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURAL MOVE IS TO LINE THE, UH, THE MAIN DRIVEWAY WITH A FORMAL ROW OR
WE THINK THIS WILL FORM A REALLY POWERFUL STATEMENT, BRINGING YOU INTO THE SITE.
IT'LL HELP FRAME VIEWS TO THE FIRST CENTRAL OPEN SPACE.
AND THE GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES WE THINK ARE AN EXCELLENT SPECIES FOR THIS LOCATION, UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, UH, SO ACCLIMATED TO, UM, THIS MARINE TYPE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND BECAUSE THEY, UH, DEFINITELY CAN EASILY BE MAINTAINED AT 30, 35, 40 FEET TALL AND FORM A REALLY BEAUTIFUL EVERGREEN BUFFER LINING THE DRIVEWAY TO HELP PROVIDE SCREENING TO BOTH THE, UH, FISHER ISLAND PARKING GARAGE AND ALSO TO THE MIAMI BEACH BUILDINGS.
UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, AS WE, UM, TRAVERSE THROUGH THE ENTRY DRIVE AND WE ENTER THE FIRST OPEN SPACE, UH, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL GREEN AREA, YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN, THE OVERALL CONCEPT IS TO HAVE THAT BE OPEN, UM, THAT SORT OF ACTS AS THE LANDSCAPE HEART OF THE, UH, CAMPUS DESIGN AS GABRIEL MENTIONED.
UM, AND PETER WORTZ, UH, UH, OF WORTZ INTERNATIONAL HAS DEVELOPED THIS VERY COOL CONTEMPORARY SCHEME OF LOW PLANTINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE RENDERING.
THERE ARE THESE CRESCENT SHAPES OF WHITE FLOWERING PEN SEEUM GRASS, AND THEN SOME LOW BANDING OF, UH, GREEN ISLAND FCUS.
AND IT'S ALL UNIFIED BY AN OPEN LAWN AREA.
UH, THE IDEA IS TO PRESERVE VIEWS THROUGH THIS ENTIRE SPACE, UM, AND THE OVERALL DESIGN IS MEANT TO FORM A LITTLE BIT OF A COUNTERPOINT TO SOME OF THE AXIAL RELATIONSHIPS AMONGST THE BUILDINGS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, IN THE CENTRAL AREA ON THE SCREEN, WE'RE CONTINUING THE ROW OF GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES, SO THAT EXTENDS THE ACCESS ALONG THE DRIVE.
AND SO THOSE GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES FORM A BUFFER, UM, THAT GOES, UH, NEXT TO THE TWO PAVILION BUILDINGS.
UM, IN BETWEEN THE TWO PAVILION BUILDINGS, THERE'S A PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURT AND A PATEL COURT AND AN OPEN PLAZA, UM, WITH A REALLY CLASSY, UH, LIMESTONE, UM, MATERIAL TO MATCH THE BUILDINGS.
AND SO DOES GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES HELP TO SEPARATE THAT SPACE, UM, FROM THE CENTRAL GARDEN AND AT THE TERMINUS OR THE APEX, UM, UH, OF THE SITE, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER LARGE OPEN GARDEN SPACE.
IT'S UTILIZING THE EXACT SAME TYPE FORM LANGUAGE AS THE CENTRAL GARDEN.
UH, THE INTENT IS TO PRESERVE VIEWS, UM, FROM THE, FROM THE, FROM THE BUILDING OUT INTO THE, UH, BAY AND ALSO FROM THE BAY INTO THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, ALONG THE EAST, WE, UH, HAVE A LINEAR, UH, BAND OF NATIVE EVERGREEN TREES MEANT TO PROVIDE SCREENING ALONG THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, TO REINFORCE THE AXIAL NATURE OF THE ENTRY DRIVE IN THE LA OF TREES.
SO IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, AS GABRIEL MENTIONED, HERE'S A VIEW, UM, AT OUR, UH, AT THE GATEHOUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROPERTY, UM, TO THE RIGHT ARE SOME CONCEPT IMAGES, YOU KNOW, UH, HERE WE REALLY GET TO SEE THIS POWERFUL FORM OF THE LANDSCAPE LEADING YOU INTO THE PROPERTY AND CREATING DRAMA, UH, UH, FOR ARRIVAL AND FOR EXIT.
UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE JUST SOME EXAMPLE IMAGES OF GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES.
UM, WE'RE ALSO UTILIZING A NATIVE HEDGE, UM, AT THE BACK OF THE GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES.
WE HAVE TWO 10 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE AREAS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DRIVE, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY GREAT.
IT GIVES US A LOT OF, OF GOOD ROUTING SPACE AND, AND PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UM, THE IMAGES AT THE BOTTOM, THERE ARE, UH, SOME CONCEPT IMAGES FOR THE PAVING THAT WE'D LIKE TO UTILIZE THE VEHICULAR PAVING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
UH, WE SELECTED, UH, LIGHT GRAY PAVERS IN EITHER LIKE A NATURAL COBBLE OR, UH, ANOTHER TYPE OF UNIT PAVER WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GRANITE INSIDE OF IT.
UM, AND SO WE THINK THAT, UH, ALL THE VEHICULAR AREAS WILL BE THE SAME MATERIAL, WHICH WILL REALLY HELP PROVIDE A SOPHISTICATED, UH, UNIFYING ELEMENT TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS JUST, UH, AN AMAZING VIEW HERE.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS IS IT SHOWS THE OPENNESS OF THE PROJECT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN, IN OPEN SPACE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME CONCEPT IMAGERY OF THE, UH, THE CONTEMPORARY CRESCENT SHAPES OF THE FOUNTAIN GRASS, AND THEN THE LOW CLIPPED FICUS GREEN ISLAND.
THE COOL THING ABOUT THAT IS THE FOUNTAIN GRASS WILL SWAY IN THE BREEZE AND
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THE FICUS GREEN ISLAND PROVIDES A VERY CONTEMPORARY FORM AND A REALLY STRONG FORM LANGUAGE.UM, AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE REGARDING THE LANDSCAPE, UM, IS THIS IS OUR OVERALL PALETTE.
UH, I'D SAY 85 TO 90% OF THE SPECIES, UM, AND TOTAL QUANTITY OF MATERIAL THAT WE'RE UTILIZING IS NATIVE, UM, ALL EVER, MOSTLY ALL EVERGREEN.
UM, VERY SUITABLE TO THIS ENVIRONMENT.
AND THE OVERALL EFFECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE IS A VERY SOPHISTICATED, VERY ELEGANT LANDSCAPE, UM, THAT HELPS TO, YOU KNOW, ACCENTUATE THIS BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM, AND THANKS AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
AND IF I MAY, UH, JUST, UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER THAT WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ADDRESS AND CECILIA WILL HAND THOSE OUT.
UH, THE FIRST IS, UH, UNDER IN THE DESIGN, UH, PORTION D ONE SUB C, AS WELL AS D ONE SUB TWO.
THE, UH, LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT ORDER READS THE FINAL DETAILS, COLOR AND MATERIAL FINISH OF LIMESTONE CLADDING PROPOSED FOR THE ROOF EAVES AND PARAPET, INCLUDING SAMPLES SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF CONSISTENT WITH DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA AND OR THE DIRECTIONS OF THE BOARD.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE EXTERIOR WALLS IN CONDITION 1D, WE WOULD BE ASKING TO MODIFY THAT SLIGHTLY BY SAYING THE FINAL DETAILS, COLOR AND MATERIAL FINISH PROVIDING THE, ADDING THE WORDS, PROVIDING THE APPEARANCE OF LIMESTONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT READY AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO SAY THAT LIMESTONE WILL BE THE MATERIAL.
SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT PHRASE IF YOU WOULD ADDED TO BOTH D ONE C AND D 1D, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF ON THE FINAL USE OF MATERIALS.
UH, THE SECOND CONDITION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MODIFY IS D 2D REGARDING THE PAVER SYSTEMS. UH, AND, UH, IT'S JUST TO READ IT TO YOU.
SUSPENDED PAVER SYSTEMS SUCH AS SILVER CELLS OR EQUAL SHALL BE INSTALLED WHERE STREET TREES ARE PLANTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, SIDEWALK OR OTHER HARDSCAPED AREAS IN A MANNER AND BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY DELETE THAT CONDITION, AND I CAN HAVE, UH, UH, CHRIS COME BACK AND EXPLAIN WHY.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE, UH, THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, THERE ARE NO STREET TREES THAT THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE, AND WITHIN OUR PROPERTY ITSELF, WHERE THERE THE TREE PLANTING THIS WOULD, UH, IS, IS INAPPROPRIATE.
AND CHRIS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THAT.
UM, IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE A LOT OF UTILITIES THAT ARE GONNA BE RUNNING UNDER THE, THE DRIVEWAY, AND WE'RE RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING SOME EXISTING UTILITIES TO THAT LOCATION, AND WE WOULD LIKE ALL THE UTILITIES OUT OF THE LANDSCAPE AREAS.
SO, UH, IN SOME SCENARIOS LIKE WHERE IF WE HAD AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT WITH A SIDEWALK AND A HOTEL AND, AND, AND WE HAD SMALL TREE PLANTERS, YOU WOULD WANT TO SU SUSPEND THE PAVEMENT, UH, WITH THE SILVER CELL SYSTEM SO THE ROOTS COULD GROW UNDER THE SIDEWALK IN THIS CONDITION, OR IN THIS CASE, WE WANT THE OPPOSITE.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOTING SPACE ALREADY FOR THE TREES.
UM, AND IF ANYTHING, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING LIKE A ROOT BARRIER AT THE EDGE OF OUR, OF OUR PLANTING AREA TO PREVENT, UH, THE ROOTING SYSTEM FROM THE, THE TREES FROM GROWING INTO OUR UTILITIES AND CREATING LIKE A MAINTENANCE, UM, COMPLICATION.
SO IN SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT CONDITION IN EVERY DRB FINAL ORDER, AND WE NEVER, EVER UTILIZE, YOU KNOW, MENTION IT.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST WHY WE DON'T THINK IT'S APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE.
AND, AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CITY.
I AM THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF COAST GUARD BASE MIAMI BEACH.
UH, SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, EXPRESS A FEW, UH, COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WE MIGHT HAVE WITH THE PROPOSED DESIGN AS IT AS IT SITS.
UM, ONE OF THESE CLARIFY FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL, HOWEVER, THE CLOSEST MEMBERS WHO ARE SLEEPING ARE ABOUT 300 FEET AWAY ON THE CUTTERS, THE SHIPS THAT ARE THERE IN THE WATER.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A BARRACKS FACILITY ON BASE THAT OVERLOOKS THIS SITE.
UH, SO WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE SLEEPING EVERY NIGHT, UH, EVERY DAY, UH, MEMBERS WILL BE ON WATCH, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UM, AS YOU REVIEW THE DESIGN, I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO KEEP THAT, UM, IN MIND, UH, AS FAR AS THAT USE THERE.
UH, THE OTHER THING, MA'AM, IS FOR LIGHTING, I KNOW MENTIONED THE PICKLEBALL COURT, I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE LIGHTING DESIGNS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UH, WE DO HAVE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR STATION MIAMI BEACH PERSONNEL WHO DO GET UNDERWAY IN THEIR SMALL BOATS FROM OUR FLOATING DOCKS THAT ARE RIGHT IN THAT WATERWAY.
SO IF THERE WAS, SAY, A NIGHT PICKLEBALL GAME, UH, WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ACTION, UH, IT MIGHT AFFECT OUR NIGHT VISION AS WE TRY TO GET UNDERWAY AND DO OUR SEARCH AND RESCUE OUR LONG ENFORCEMENT
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MISSION.SO, UM, AS YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTING PLAN, SOMETHING I'D ASK THE CITY TO CONSIDER, UH, FOR OUR OPERATIONS THROUGH THERE.
AND THEN FINALLY, MA'AM, FOR THE VIEW SHEDS AS WE LOOK AT 'EM, UM, YOU MIGHT ASK WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT THE PORT? WE DO
THAT'S SOMETHING WE LIKE TO DO.
UM, SO FOR OUR LINE OF SIGHT COMMUNICATION, UH, RADARS, UH, CAMERAS, THAT'S KIND OF THINGS, THESE, UH, BUILDINGS WILL BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BLOCK THAT VIEW.
I KNOW PREVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME AGREEMENTS MADE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO PUT, UM, OUR SENSORS, OUR, UH, EQUIPMENT ON TOP OF ONE OF SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR PRIVATE USE, UH, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THAT EASEMENT, THAT RIGHT OF ACCESS, BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME KIND OF WORK WITH, WITH THESE DESIGNS UNLESS IT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PROCESS HERE.
AND HAVE YOU BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING YOUR CONCERNS? NO, MA'AM.
WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS A LITTLE LATE.
UH, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE, UH, NOTICE WENT TO, UH, IT WAS THE TAX ASSESSOR FOR THIS, UH, COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE.
WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T INTERACT WITH THE COUNTY OF TEXAS VERY OFTEN, SO WE, UH, UPDATE THAT AND ARE WORKING BACK WITH THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A SEPARATE MEETING WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO WE HAVE NOT AN OPPORTUNITY YET TO DO THAT.
AND OF COURSE, THE UNFORTUNATE LAPSE AND APPROPRIATIONS HAS LIMITED OUR, UH, OUR STAFFING, UH, UNTIL LAST WEEK.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE GETTING BACK TO THAT, YES MA'AM.
SO YOU'RE, IT'S THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD HANDLE THESE CONCERNS OR NORMALLY YOU GUYS WOULD'VE BEEN LOOPED IN AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LEVEL TO, TO WORK THROUGH? YES, MA'AM.
BUT I, I THINK WITH THE LIGHTING CURRENT CONCERN, UM, AND JUST BRINGING UP THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE, UH, COAST GUARD MEMBERS THAT SLEEP AT EVERY DAY, UH, JUST A FEW FEET AWAY AND OH, YEAH, I WAS BASED ON THIS DESIGN SPECIFICALLY.
I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THIS OR IT'S SOMETHING REALLY THAT YOU NEED A LARGER CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS? I THINK WE MAYBE NEED A LARGER APPLICATION.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE DESIGN AS PROPOSED OR, OR THAT USE AS PROPOSED.
UH, JUST AS WE LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS, UM, WORKING FROM CAUSEWAY ISLAND THERE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPATIBLE IN THAT USE AND THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE APPROVED HERE AT THE DESIGN LEVEL MM-HMM
UH, FOR LIKE THAT EXTERIOR LIGHTING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, UH, DON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR OPERATIONS.
SCOTT? NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
THE LAST, THE LAST ONE THAT WAS APPROVED, I DIDN'T THINK YOU GUYS WERE INVOLVED AT ALL IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS MUCH MORE DENSE, IT WAS MUCH BIGGER.
I THINK THAT MAY BE A RESULT OF THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
UM, FORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT DID LET ME KNOW, I THINK IT WAS RIGHT THE END OF OCTOBER, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD MET.
UH, WE TRIED TO GET OUR COMMENTS TOGETHER, BUT AGAIN, WITH ELAPSE OR APPROPRIATION, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT, UM, AS WE CAME THROUGH.
SO I THINK WE MAY HAVE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.
I KNOW WE'VE CROWDED COMMENTS BACK IN LIKE 2002 AS WELL AS TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AS OTHER, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL, SOME OTHER THINGS HAD GONE THROUGH.
UM, IN THIS CASE, I THINK WE JUST MISSED OUR OPPORTUNITY.
YEAH, NO, I JUST WONDER WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF THAT BIG BUILDING WAS SPREAD.
I DO REMEMBER HE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE, WERE THEY THERE? THEY WERE PART OF IT.
THE COAST GUARD PARTICIPATED IN THE REVIEW WITH THE, I REMEMBER.
UM, AND I REMEMBER WE ACTUALLY WENT TOWARD THE, THE BASE, UM, AS PART OF THAT.
IT WAS FASCINATING, FASCINATING OPERATION YOU HAVE.
I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH YOU, YOU DO THERE.
MENTORER IS THE LIGHTING ON THE PICKLEBALL AND PADELL COURTS A PROBLEM FOR YOU AT NIGHT ALL THE TIME, EVEN THOUGH THOSE LIGHTS ARE REQUIRED BY CODE TO ONLY SHINE DOWN AND NOT SPILL? YES, MA'AM.
WE, UH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN, UM, THAT USE ISN'T THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PARKING GARAGE AT NIGHT IS, IT'S NOT VERY BRIGHT.
AND AS WE GET UNDERWAY, OUR OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR BASE AND OUR LIGHTING SYSTEMS ARE SUBDUED SO THAT WE DON'T IMPACT OUR OPERATORS AS THEY GET UNDERWAY FROM THOSE FLOATING DOCKS.
AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, TO BE PLACED ON A ROOFTOP THAT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIVATE, UM, BUILDING, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PLACE EQUIPMENT THAT, WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT ARE WE? YES, MA'AM.
THAT WOULD BE, UM, LINE OF SIGHT, LIKE MAYBE MICROWAVE COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL AS RADAR EQUIPMENT OR CAMERAS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY YOU CAN SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND COME TO SOME AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT CAN BE DONE THAT'S CORRECT.
ON THE ROOFTOP OF ANY OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR BUILDINGS NOW ARE NOT AS TALL OR TALLER? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, ALL THESE SENSORS WILL BE ON, SO THE 46 FEET, NINE INCHES IS, UH, SIMPLY TALLER THAN OUR BUILDING.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST ONE OF THE THREE PAVILIONS THAT IS A CONCERN.
OR ALL THREE, IT WOULD BE THE TWO MAIN BUILDINGS, THE, UH, OWNER'S PAVILION AS WELL AS THE MARINA PAVILION, THE GUARD SHACK, UM, BEING OUT OF THE WAY, NOT A CONCERN.
AND I BELIEVE THE MIRROR OPERATIONS BUILDING WILL BE BLOCKED BY THE OTHER TWO STRUCTURES.
YEAH, JUST BRIEFLY, UM, COUPLE OF THINGS AND PLANNING
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STAFF, UH, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE RECORD PLANNING STAFF CAN, HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS NOTICE WAS PROPERLY SENT TO ONE 20 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY, UH, 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD HEARING AND OF THIS HEARING.UH, WE ALSO HAVE REACHED OUT AND, AND, AND TRIED TO MEET TO GO OVER THE PLANS AS WELL.
FORTUNATELY, JUST THAT DOES TODAY THROUGH THE GOOD OFFICES OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOW ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING, BUT WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO AND TO PLANNING STAFF ITSELF OVER TWO WEEKS AGO, SENT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALL ACCESSIBLE ONLINE, SENT THE FULL PLANS AND EVERYTHING.
SO, BUT LET ME, LET ME ALSO SAY, AND OF COURSE, YOU'VE ALL RECOGNIZED THE EXISTING APPROVED USE MUCH HIGHER, MUCH MORE INTENSE.
UH, WE HAVE MUCH LESS BUILDING.
BUT LET ME, LET ME MAKE THIS PLEDGE.
OF COURSE, WE WILL WORK WITH PLANNING STAFF AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE COAST GUARD, WE'LL WORK WITH PLANNING STAFF ON THAT.
THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, MR. GRIFFIN, UH, I THINK YOU MAY KNOW, HAS, HAS A INCREDIBLE RECORD AND SUPPORT OF AMERICAN MILITARY AND RESPECT FOR IT.
AND WE WILL CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THEIR NEEDS.
I THINK I, I IS NOT ONLY THINK I KNOW THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE USE AMONG OTHER THINGS.
MR. GRIFFIN WILL HAVE 24 7 SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE WON'T BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING THERE, THERE WON'T BE A RESTAURANT.
SO, UH, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH PLANNING STAFF TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE MEMBER LINE WITH HER HAND RAISED, UH, JANE KREPP.
MS. KREPP, BEFORE YOU ADDRESS.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, JANE REPP 1390 OCEAN DRIVE.
MS. UH, BEFORE YOU STARTED AND ADDRESS THE BOARD.
YES, I DO NEED TO SWAY YOU IN.
SO DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
I'M GONNA SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO COMPLETELY WELCOME KEN GRIFFIN TO MIAMI BEACH.
I KNOW HE'S BEEN VERY PHILANTHROPIC.
HOPEFULLY HE WILL ALSO BE PHILANTHROPIC IN MIAMI BEACH, NOT JUST MIAMI, AND GET US SOME SCHOOLS AND, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE ITEMS THAT WE NEED HOSPITALS DESPERATELY.
I'VE WORKED ON PRIVATE COASTAL PROPERTIES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
I HAD MY OWN FIRM FOR 45 YEARS.
I'M NOW HERE IN MIAMI BEACH BECAUSE I LOVE MIAMI BEACH AND I LIVE ON LOMAS PARK WHERE WE BASICALLY, UM, FOUGHT TO HAVE MANY YEARS AGO IT RESTORED WITH THE JAMAICAN TALL COCONUT PALMS. WE HAVE TWO AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
UH, THE PALMS IN A KIND OF PARK SETTING DO NOT OBSTRUCT THE VIEW.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THIS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A BELGIAN LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE, I'M FINE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY'RE JUST OUTLINING THE BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING MORE OF A PARK CAMPUS.
THERE'S NO, I DON'T SEE ANY SHADE WHERE SOMEONE COULD SIT.
AND MY SUGGEST, AND I DON'T THINK IT HAS THE MIAMI BEACH VIBE, MY SUGGESTION IS TAKE THOSE TRI TWO TRIANGULAR SPACES AND CREATE MORE OF A, OF THESE JAMAICAN TALLS, WHICH HAVE BEAUTIFUL SCULPTURAL SHAPES.
IT WOULD SOFTEN THE HARD EDGE ARCHITECTURE AND NOT BE SO LINEAR AND RIGID IN THE LANDSCAPING.
I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT MIAMI BEACH.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT FROM THE WATER, YOU WANNA SEE BEAUTIFUL FOLIAGE AND LUSHNESS AND THERE'S SOMETHING JUST VERY DRY AND CORPORATE ABOUT THIS.
SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE, UM, JUST LOGISTICALLY, UM, I DON'T UNDER, I ISN'T CLEAR TO ME HOW THE CITY BENEFITS FROM THIS FINANCIALLY.
DO WE GET RENT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
ALSO, THESE ARE LARGE BOATS THAT ARE KNOWN TO BE QUITE POLLUTING AND I'M NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF THAT.
BUT IS THERE AN EPA ON MISS BISCAY BAY STUDY NECESSARY? AND WHERE DOES THE FUEL GET STORED? ARE THEY REFUELING, JUST LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, HAVE THOSE BEEN ADDRESSED AND, BUT MAY BASICALLY MY BIG, MY BEEF IS MAKE IT MORE TROPICAL.
MAKE IT SOFTER EDGED, MAKE IT LESS FORMAL IN THE LANDSCAPING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
ARE THERE OTHERS? NO, THAT'S THE ONLY HAND WE HAVE RAISED.
I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION.
I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO SAY FIRST, ACTUALLY, I'D AGREE WITH THE LAST SPEAKER, JANE CRO, HIS NAME CENTURY GREEN DOESN'T SEEM A LITTLE CORPORATE AND MORE EUROPEAN THAN I WOULD SAY
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CHOP LOCALLY FROM MIAMI.BUT THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'RE GOING FOR.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT, I MEAN, IF I MAY ALSO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT.
SO NONE OF THE OTHER THIS IS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LARGE BOATS.
AND BY THE WAY, UH, THE BISCAY BAY REGULATIONS SAY THAT AT THIS PART THERE SHOULD ONLY BE LARGE BOATS.
IN FACT, THERE SHOULDN'T BE SMALL BOATS.
THEY DON'T WANT SMALL BOATS GOING IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO SERVICE THESE BOATS AND SO YOU CAN'T HAVE, UH, UH, NOT THAT I'M A MARINE EXPERT, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF TREES IN THE AREA THAT MAY NEED TO BE USED FOR MARINE RELATED OPERATIONS.
SO, UH, THIS AS IT IS, IS PROBABLY MORE LANDSCAPING THAN ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED ON THAT SITE.
SO IS THAT, 'CAUSE I, I, I SHARE THE CONCERN.
SO THESE LARGER SORT OF TRIANGULAR GREEN SPACES, THAT'S, THAT IT HAS TO BE LOW.
IT, YOU CAN'T PUT LARGER TREES.
UH, I'D ASK CHRIS TO COME HERE, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS THAT.
I THINK THAT, UH, BOTH DESIGN-WISE, BUT ALSO FUNCTIONALLY, I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM.
I MEAN THE, THE OBJECTIVE HERE HAS BEEN TO KEEP THOSE SPACES OPEN.
UM, UH, WE WANTED TO ALLOW VIEWS THROUGHOUT THE SPACE.
AND I MEAN, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT FROM, FROM AN AESTHETIC.
UM, AESTHETICALLY SPEAKING, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE TREES AND THE SPECIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING WILL PROVIDE A RELATIVELY SOFT AND, YOU KNOW, TROPICAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS OUR OWN, UM, CITY HAS, UH, BASICALLY PUT INTO EFFECT OVER THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO UTILIZE A LOT MORE TREE SPECIES RATHER THAN PALM SPECIES BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T VALUE THOSE ENVIRONMENTALLY IN MIAMI BEACH ANYMORE.
AND IN THIS CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE I THINK 107 TREES.
UH, ADDITIONALLY I WOULD SAY THAT IN THESE OPEN SPACES HERE, UM, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME ACROSS IN THE RENDERINGS IS THAT WE DO HAVE THESE REALLY BEAUTIFUL CRESCENT SHAPES OF THE WHITE FOUNTAIN GRASS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF OUR CLIENTS ALWAYS LOVE, AND IT DOES PROVIDE A SOFT EFFECT.
SO, I MEAN, AESTHETICALLY SPEAKING, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GONE AT THIS POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE WELCOME ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE BOARD AS PART OF YOUR PERMITTING PROCESS.
THIS WILL GO THROUGH PLANNING LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS URBAN FORESTRY YEP.
AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED IN THIS.
SO, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE BOARD MEMBER AND, UH, MS. CROUP, I THINK, UH, THAT CALLED IN.
UM, AS THE PROJECT GETS DEVELOPED AND GOES THROUGH REVIEW PROCESS, IF THERE ARE OTHER TREES THAT YOU FEEL CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, THEN MAYBE YOU TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION TO SOFTEN, MAKE THE LOOK MORE SOFTER, BUT YES MA'AM.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS WHAT IT STRUCK.
I WAS STRUCK A LITTLE BIT BY THAT AS WELL.
IT, IT JUST SEEMS THE, THE PAVILIONS ARE, ARE VERY BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED.
UM, BUT IT, IT DID, I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT THERE WASN'T MORE LANDSCAPING TO SOFTEN EVEN THE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PAVEMENT AROUND IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THIS SITE, I MEAN, IT IS SO INDUSTRIAL, THERE'S SO MANY IMPERVIOUS SURFACES THAT IT WOULD BE NICE, I MEAN, I, I SEE YOU HAVE THESE LARGE GREEN SPACES, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE, OR TO SEE MORE GREEN TO SOFTEN THINGS UP.
UM, I'M, YOU KNOW, I WAS VERY GLAD THAT YOU WERE HERE TO PRESENT THE CONCEPT OF THE LANDSCAPING.
UM, I FEEL LIKE IF, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PRESCRIBED DESIGN, BUT IT AT LEAST, YEAH.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WAS THAT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE'S LOTS OF PAVED SURFACES AND IN PROPORTION NOT AS MUCH GREEN.
THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN AWESOME COMMENT, AND I UNDERSTAND A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND, UM, JUST ALONG THAT POINT, I WILL MENTION THAT THE, THE PAVED SURFACES THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND THE PERIMETER, LIKE THEY'RE THE MINIMUM THAT WE CAN HAVE TO MAKE THE MARINE A FUNCTION.
THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SEAWALL CAP, AND THEN WE HAVE A, AN EASEMENT AREA WHERE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS REQUIRED TO, UH, MAKE THE MARINA FUNCTION PROPERLY.
UH, SHORELINE POWER BOX SETBACK, AND THEN WE NEED ENOUGH VEHICULAR CIRCULATION ROOM, UM, TO SERVICE THE MARINA AND FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT OR SERVICE EQUIPMENT THAT COULD BE, UH, EVER REQUIRED.
NOW, WITH THAT SAID, THE REST OF THE SITE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS GREEN SPACE.
AND, UM, LIKE ALL PROJECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THIS, AT THIS STAGE, WE CERTAINLY ARE, UM, OPEN TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND THINK ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT THE BOARD HAS MADE THUS FAR, UM, AS WE CONTINUE, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO, AND, AND ALSO YOU WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMANDER'S COMMENTS WHEN
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IT COMES TO THE EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.YOU'LL WORK WITH PLANNING AND THE LIGHTING ON THE PADEL AND YES.
UH, COURTS THAT THEY BE SHINING DOWN.
CAN CONFIRM THAT THE, OR I DUNNO IF THE ART THAT THE LIGHTS SHINE MORE DOWN ON THE COURT AS OPPOSED TO AMBIENT.
UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY CONFIRM THAT AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
I THINK THE CODE ROGELIO REQUIRES THE CODE, REQUIRES THAT, YEAH.
THE, THE LIGHTING TO BE DOWN YES.
WITH, UM, THE COAST GUARD AS IT PERTAINS TO THE EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF, THEN JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE LIGHTING IS UNDERSTOOD BY THEM, THAT IT IS DOWNWARD LIGHTING AND NOT TO THE SIDES OR UP.
WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A, A PADEL FACILITY PROJECT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE RESIDENTS EXPRESS SIMILAR CONCERNS AND IT ENDED UP BEING APPROVED.
SO I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN CARE OF OR AT LEAST ADDRESSED.
UM, SO NO, I GUESS THE, THE, THE COMMENT ABOUT IT WAS MORE AS A WAY, IT SEEMED LIKE WITH THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVING SOME GREEN PLANTERS OR CLOSER TO THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, WHICH WOULD, THE BUILDINGS ARE REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
UM, BUT A LITTLE BIT, I WANNA SAY MAYBE SEVERE, I DUNNO, I KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH.
LIKE I, I GET THE CONCEPT AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S ELEGANT, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY, YEAH, JUST THE THING.
AND THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S VERY CLEAR TOO, EVEN IN THE GATEHOUSE, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALL DRIVEWAY FOR PARKED CARS, BUT THERE'S NOT THE, IT'S JUST PAVEMENT AND THEN BUILDING AND THERE'S NOT THAT GENERAL TRANSITION.
I UNDERSTAND A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE GATEHOUSE, RIGHT, AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOW LANDSCAPE AREA AND THERE'S A PLANTER WITH SOME LOW CLIP, YOU KNOW, UH, PLANTINGS IN THERE.
I MEAN, WE WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, BE OPEN TO EXPLORING THE IDEA OF UTILIZING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE SCHEME TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF THE BOARD.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T OVER PROMISE, UM, AT THIS TIME BASED ON LIKE, THE FUNCTIONALITY, SITE TRIANGLES, UTILITIES, AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IN THIS AREA.
BUT, AND THEN YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PLANTERS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING ARE VERY WELL TAKEN.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO KEEP WITHIN THE EXISTING SCHEME, UM, AS PROPOSED, THERE ARE LOTS OF SMALLER PLANTER AREAS.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S TOTAL SCREENING OF THE, OF THE, THE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO STUDY THAT WITH STAFF TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP SOFTEN, BUT THEN ALSO KEEP WITH THE DESIGN TEAM INTENT.
AND IF, IF, I MAY ALSO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UH, THAT OF COURSE THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, UH, AND ALSO THE, UH, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE ALSO ALLOWS AND HAS ALWAYS FOR HISTORICALLY PROVIDED THERE ARE THOSE SIX PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY WHAT THEY'VE TRIED TO DO IS MAKE THAT AS ATTRACTIVE AS IT CAN BE WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW BUILDING AT THAT LOCATION AND THE, AND THE GATE AND THE ENTRANCE.
NO, I MEAN, AND, AND IT, IT, LIKE I SAID, THE DESIGN IS LOVELY AND IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT.
THE, THE LOWERING OF THE DENSITY, THE CONCEPT IS, IS, UM, I REALLY LIKE, CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, ABOUT THE, THE FINAL ORDER? YOU SAID THAT IT MIGHT LIMESTONE OR ANOTHER TYPE OF MATERIAL.
WHAT OTHER MATERIALS ARE YOU CONSIDERING? NOT LIMESTONE.
UM, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THE QUESTION.
UM, THE, THE DESIGN INTENT IS TO HAVE LIMESTONE HONED, UH, ORIGINALLY.
UH, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OF COURSE IS GOING, IS GOING THROUGH A REVIEW THAT THAT IS TIED TO BUDGET AND, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AND FIND MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR, THAT ARE, ESPECIALLY FROM THE WATER SIDE, WHEN YOU, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS, THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOMETHING VERY REFINED WITH, UH, WITH MATERIALS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE REFINED AND, AND CLEAR.
UH, IN THE END, THIS SITE, I WOULD SAY THAT THE MAIN FACET FOR THIS SITE IS THE WATER SIDE.
IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE ENTRANCE.
SO THIS IS WHAT, UM, THE BOATS ARE GONNA, UH, ARE GONNA LOOK AT WHERE ALL, ALL, ALL THE BOATS THAT ARE LIVING THROUGH THAT CHANNEL ARE GONNA SEE THIS.
AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY FOR US, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN A VERY, UM, COHESIVE DESIGN WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS.
AND ALSO, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THIS WILL BECOME A VERY SPECIAL MOMENT WHEN, WHEN THOSE, WHEN THOSE BOATS ARE, ARE LEAVING THE, THE AREA, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THIS, THE, THE, THE PROJECT EVEN INCLUDES ON THE VERY TIP.
MAYBE WE DIDN'T, UH, GET TO THAT, UH, TO EXPLAIN THAT.
BUT AT THE VERY TIP, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A, A SCULPTURE, UH, THAT MIGHT, UH, BECOME SOMETHING, UH, UH, SPECIAL.
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IS ALL, UH, UNDER, UH, UM, STUDY STILL.BUT, UH, IN THE END, I WOULD SAY THAT THE MATERIALITY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO OTHER MATERIALS THAT OF COURSE, UH, WILL WORK AS WELL AND, AND, AND NOT AFFECT THE AESTHETICS.
AND ONE THING THAT I, I, I, I FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE RENDERINGS, THAT, UH, AERIAL VIEW, UH, MAYBE IF YOU CAN PULL IT UP, IT IS, THERE IS A CLEAR INTENT OF UNDERSTANDING THE ROOFS AS A FIFTH FACADE.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT WHEN YOU'RE EXITING THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT BAY, UH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT LOCATED IN THE ROOF AT ALL.
ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON SITE IS LOCATED IN MEP CORALS THAT ARE CENTRALIZED FOR FUNCTIONALITY, AND THEY ARE ALL SCREENED BY LANDSCAPING, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN NOTICE WHERE THEY ARE.
UH, THAT IS ON PURPOSE, AND WE TRY, WE, WE, WE WILL, UH, MAKE ALL EFFORTS TO KEEP, UH, ALL THE ROOFS, UH, OUT OF, UH, WITHOUT ANY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF THAT.
THERE WAS A QUESTION RAISED BY THE PREVIOUS, UM, PERSON THAT CALLED IN WHETHER LEASE PAYMENTS WERE GONNA BE MADE.
I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S, OKAY, SO WE'LL BE PAYING LOTS OF TAXES ON IT,
I'M, I WANT, I WANT, I, I DON'T, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DR.
B'S ROLE IS, AND THAT'S BESIDES WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.
BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR US.
BUT ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR GABRIEL AS YOU'RE UP, UM, IS, THIS TO ME HAS SORT OF A EUROPEAN PALAZZO VIBE TO IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPING FOLLOWING THAT GRAVEL, COBBLES ROOF LINES.
UM, IS THAT THE STORY? I, I, I JUST MADE THAT UP.
SO, SO WHEN EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT, I, I KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT CLUSTERS OF PALM TREES ON HERE THAT THAT DOESN'T YEAH, THAT DOESN'T FIT, DOESN'T GO.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT ON, ON YOUR OWN.
UM, I DON'T, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER, THIS IS, THIS IS A AMAZING PROJECT.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS THIS, THE TWO MAIN BUILDINGS ARE, ARE THE SAME FOOTPRINT, AND THE SITE BEGINS TO CHANGE SHAPE TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE POINT WAS THERE THOUGHT ABOUT REDUCING OWNER'S, OWNER'S PAVILION? MAYBE NOT THE ROOF LINE, BUT THE OWNER'S PAVILION MASSING TO, TO, AS, AS THE SITE TRIANGULATES.
AND, AND I, I DON'T, I'M JUST ASKING THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY OR WHAT.
I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY ARE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A DIFFERENTIATION OF SCALE SOMEWHAT.
I, AND HOW I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE OF COURSE, THIS WAS PART OF ALL THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE FOR THIS BUILDING.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST SCHEME THAT, THAT, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH.
UH, AND, UH, I THINK YOU, YOU HIT THE SPOT WITH THE, UM, WITH THE RIGHT WORDING.
THE, THE, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, TO DO SOMETHING VERY ELEGANT, VERY QUIET, VERY CLEAN.
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE, UM, THOSE THINGS, YOU THINK ABOUT SYMMETRY, YOU THINK ABOUT BALANCE BETWEEN THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ON SITE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS, THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE VISIBLE, THIS FACET AND THE PROPORTIONS OF THE BUILDINGS ARE STUDIED WITH THE GOLDEN, UH, RATIO.
UH, SO, UH, EVERYTHING IS STUDIED LIKE THAT.
SO IT WILL BE, AS YOU SAID, LIKE A PALACE, LIKE A, IT, IT LOOKS EUROPEAN IN THAT, IN THE SENSE THAT THE AESTHETICS AND THE PROPORTIONS ARE THOROUGHLY STUDIED.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY ARE THE SAME.
UH, ALTHOUGH, UH, YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD THINK THE SHAPES COULD BE DIFFERENT, BUT IN, IN THE END, THIS IS, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE DIFFERENT, UM, PAVILIONS, THE IDEA HERE IS TO UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE SIDE HOLISTICALLY AND HOW ALL THE PIECES RELATE TO EACH OTHER AND, AND, AND, AND BALANCE AND, AND CREATE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN LAND LANDSCAPING AND THE BUILDINGS.
I HOPE THAT NO ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.
IT, IT IS, AND, AND THE SYMMETRY IS WHAT THE, THE, THESE, THE PAST BUILDINGS AND, AND, AND, UM, ESTATES WERE ALL ABOUT.
AND THIS, THE, WHEN I SAW THE DRIVEWAY, THAT'S IMMEDIATELY WHAT SORT OF GAVE IT UP FOR ME.
I DON'T, I'M NOT NECESSARILY DISAGREEING WITH THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT LANDSCAPING, BUT I DON'T, I SEE THAT IT'S SO TROPICAL.
DO I ALSO KIND OF WELCOME THIS TO THE, TO THE WATERFRONT BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFERENT.
AND I MEAN, WHEN I SAW THIS PROJECT, I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DEALING WITH HERE?
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IT WAS POTENTIALLY JUST A, A SORT OF SMALL MEGA YACHT MARINA, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC USE.UM, AND I UNDERSTAND NOW YOUR WHOLE DRIVEWAY IS PROBABLY MAJOR CABLING FOR POWER TO, TO PLUG THESE BOATS IN.
UM, AND THEN, SO I GO BACK TO WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR JOB IS HERE TODAY IS, IS, IS $230,000 A YEAR, UM, CAN WE ADD TO CLEAN WATER ACT? WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT SHOULD WE DISCUSS ABOUT THAT, IF, IF THAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW? SO, SO THE MITIGATION IS SPECIFIC TO NOT PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS ON THE, ON THE SHORELINE, UM, OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, THOSE THAT, THAT RELATE TO BOATS AND, AND OTHER NAVIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THAT.
THAT IS, THAT IS SEPARATE FROM, FROM THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD.
WHAT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD IS THE MITIGATION FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE OF NOT PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS, UM, TO WHERE, WHERE, IF I MAY ADD, THERE SHOULDN'T BE PUBLIC ACCESS, RIGHT? LEGALLY SPEAKING, THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE MITIGATION.
BUT WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO, TO PAY WHAT THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF.
AND THIS WAS ALSO THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT FROM THE SHORELINE REVIEW COMMITTEE WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECT FOR THE, FOR THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED $200,000.
SO THIS, WE FELT THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT BASED ON CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE SHORELAND PEOPLE WANTED A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT.
IT WAS THE LAST DRB RULING THAT WAS THE 200, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS INTO THAT TERMINAL ISLAND.
AND THE LAST PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS TOO, OFFICE BUILDINGS ALSO DID NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS.
THEY WERE PRIVATE, UH, WATERFRONT AREAS.
UM, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME THAT YOU'D SAID IS YOU, YOU DESCRIBED THE MARINE OPERATIONS BUILDING AS UTILITARIAN, WHICH I THINK THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL UTILITARIAN BUILDING I'VE EVER SEEN.
UM, WAS THERE EVER ANY THOUGHT, UM, DISCUSSION THOUGH, GIVEN OF PUTTING THE STAIRWELL INSIDE AS OPPOSED TO OUTSIDE IT? HA UH, WELL, IT HAS TWO STAIRWELLS, UH, AND BECAUSE OF FOOTPRINT, UH, AND, AND THE WAY IT WORKS, IT WAS, IT, IT WAS EASIER TO HAVE IT OUTSIDE.
AND WE ACTUALLY THINK IT CAN BECOME SORT OF SCULPTURAL.
THAT SAID, THAT IS THE, THE, THE PORTION OF THE SITE THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE FROM ANYWHERE, PROBABLY FROM THE BOAT, FROM THE, FROM THE OWNER'S BOAT, MAYBE WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN IT'S DOCKED RIGHT THERE, THAT'S THE ONLY REAL AREA WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO SEE THAT'S THERE.
BUT THE INTENTION HERE AGAIN, IS, IS, IS TO MAKE IT, UH, EXTERIOR AND, AND, UH, DESIGN IT IN A WAY THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, PLEASING TO, TO, TO SEE.
AND, AND, AND OF COURSE, YEAH.
'CAUSE IT'LL BE VERY VISIBLE FROM THE WATER.
WHEN, WHEN BOATS ARE, ARE COMING.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE OVERALL DESIGN, THAT THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SEE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, OOH, WHAT'S THAT? YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT'S VERY, VERY STRIKING.
IT'S SUCH A PROMINENT LOCATION.
SO AM I ALLOWED TO ASK HOW ALL, BUT THE PLAN FOR THE BOAT IS, IT'S TIME HERE BECAUSE THE BOAT, THE BOAT COVERS EV BOATS COVER WILL COVER THE WHOLE EV EVERYTHING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF BOAT HE'S GOT.
THERE'S A QUESTION THAT YOU MIGHT, I KNOW IT PROBABLY DOESN'T STAY HERE IN THE SUMMERTIME, BUT I, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, ALTHOUGH THE, UH, UH, IT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO NINE BOATS, I THINK INITIALLY THEY CON'S CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE WOULD BE FOUR HOW MUCH TIME EACH BOAT WILL SPEND IN, IN STAYING THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW, IS THERE A LIMIT OR ANYTHING, OR IS IT THIS IS, THIS IS HIS LAND.
YOU CAN KEEP THE BOAT HERE FOREVER.
UM, THE BOAT IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE HOUSES
I MEAN, IT'S, IT WILL, IT'S BIGGER THAN ANYTHING ON HERE.
JUST LET'S NOT FORGET THAT IN THE PICTURE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY VARIANCES HERE THAT NEED TO BE VOTED ON, BUT I THINK YOU'D LIKE TO BE PART OF THE VOTE.
WELL, WE, I THINK WE NEED TO DETERMINE THE, THE FEE THAT SEEMS TO BE, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH WHAT'S IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO MODIFY ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE, IT SEEMS FAIR TO ME CONSIDERING WHAT WAS ALREADY DECIDED LAST TIME.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALCULATE THESE NUMBERS, BUT IF ANYTHING TOWARDS LIKE SORT OF THE KEEPING THE BAY CLEAN, I FORGET WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS FOR THAT.
LIKE, WELL, THAT, I MEAN, THERE, THIS HAS, THIS HAS GONE TO EXTENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING, INCLUDING FOR THE SEAWALL AND THE DOCK, AND THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE PLAN TO RELOCATE CORALS.
THIS IS BEING DONE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERY REQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMITTING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FOR THE MARINA.
SO THAT IS DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND IS WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
AND ACTUALLY, I THINK VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING APPROVED, RIGHT? YES.
NO, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
I'M SAYING THE KEEP THE BAY CLEAN FUND.
WELL, I THINK IT, WE SAID THAT THE MONEY GOES TO THE SHORELINE.
THIS COUNTY AND THIS SPECIFICALLY TO, TO THE BISCAYNE BAY SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE TRUST FUND AND
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THE CITY, MIAMI BEACH CAN REQUEST IT, BUT FOR UNRESTRICTED USES.IT HAS TO USED FOR USES RELATED TO PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE BAYFRONT AND IMPROVING WATER, UH, ACCESS TO THE, TO BISCAYNE BAY.
SO IT CAN'T BE NOT WATER QUALITY? NOT WATER QUALITY, NO.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO BEING USED FOR TRAINING, I BELIEVE.
OR, UH, I READ SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT IT'S, BESIDES THE SHORELINE, BUT SHORELINE, UM, TRAINING WASN'T THE WORD, BUT EDUCATION, SOME EDUCATIONAL, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE USED FOR EDUCATION AS WELL, I THINK.
PER PERTAINING TO THE SHORELINE.
SO BEFORE WE LOSE OUR BOARD MEMBER, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, UM, AND JUST TO, AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED TO SPEAK WITH THE COAST GUARD ABSOLUTELY.
DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE DESIGN AT ONE 20 MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY MARINA, UM, WITH THE, UM, DRAFT ORDER CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE DRAFT ORDER CONDITIONS SUBMITTED HERE TODAY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: December 11, 2025]
UH, MEETING IS DECEMBER 11TH.