* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE ARE GOING ON AIR [00:00:01] IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE START. UH, WE HAVE A GOOD, UH, FULL AGENDA TODAY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING STARTED. UM, LET'S BEGIN WITH ATTENDANCE. ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I'M GONNA DO A ROLL CALL. UH, MS. OLI HERE. MR. DIF? HERE. MS. GIL NELSON? HERE. MR. LESTER? HERE. MS. LEWIN? HERE. MR. MESH? HERE. MR. PS PRESENT? WE HAVE, UH, ALL SEVEN MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. EXCELLENT. ARE THERE ANY UPDATES [ City Attorney Updates Memorandum December 11, 2025] FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, WHICH IS THE TOLL FREE NUMBER. AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM. MUST CLICK THE ERASE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION. IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT, OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD. IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER PRIOR TO APPEARING. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY. YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR YOU ARE REP, YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE APPEARING. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. I'LL [SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC] NOW SWEAR IN EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY. VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN, UH, ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. IF YOU'LL BE GIVING TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. I DO. I DO. THANK YOU. WHAT [1. After Action November 20, 2025] ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES? I MOVE TO PRO TO I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 20TH DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, I'M NOW GONNA [CONSENT AGENDA] MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, THERE IS ACTUALLY A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANTS TO MOVE SOME ITEMS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, I WANTED TO HAVE THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND I ALSO, UH, WAS WONDERING IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ANYBODY WANTED TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TO, TO MOVE STUFF ON AND OFF HOW TO, LIKE WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE? DO I JUST SAY THESE ARE NOT ON IT OR THESE ARE MM-HMM . UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE WOULD NEED THE APPLICANT TO CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE CONDITIONS IN OUR DRAFT ORDER. OKAY. UM, ONCE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD ANNOUNCE THE ITEM AND IF, UH, NOBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON IT, THEN YOU CAN APPROVE, UH, THE ITEM AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THIS? SO THE, THE, THE APPLICANT THAT IS PRESENTING THE ANTENNAS WANTED TO HAVE THAT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH MOVING THAT FOR A GENERAL DISCUSSION? THERE WERE, I THINK IT WAS FOUR IN PARTICULAR THAT THE APPLICANT WANTED TO DISCUSS AND I THOUGHT WE CAN JUST DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE DISCUSS IT. UM, I'M THINKING THAT SOME ARE GONNA HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION THAN OTHERS. SO IF EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH THAT, WE WOULD THEN HEAR AND THE APPLICANT IS AS WELL. YOU SAID WE'D HEAR THAT AFTER THE 5,900 COLLINS? YES, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD FALL ON THE AGENDA. [00:05:01] OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT OR, SO YOU WOULD, UM, VOTE TO PULL ALL OF THOSE ITEMS FROM CONSENT IF YOU'D LIKE. OH, YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE. OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO PULL ALL OF THOSE, OR WE'RE GONNA PULL ALL THOSE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ADD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. D RRB 25 1 1 3 9 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD. IS THE APPLICANT HERE YET? UM, WE HAVE, YES. ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS IS THERE. AND DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THIS WAS THE, THE APPLICATION WITH IT INVOLVED A WALL. LET ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME READ THE TITLE. YEAH. UM, SO DRB 25 DASH 1139, FORMERLY KNOWN AS D DRB 23 DASH 0 9 2 5 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD, AN APPLICATION, UH, FOR MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUS DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR A FENCE AND WALL IN THE FRONT YARD AND WAIVERS RELATED TO THE FENCE IN THE SIDE YARD FACING A STREET. UH, THIS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS AN EXISTING, UH, THIS IS A LIGHT LIMESTONE WALL THAT THEY THERE THAT WAS BUILT A LITTLE BIT ABOVE WHAT YOU COULD ALLOW BY. RIGHT. OKAY. AND TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T, WE, IF ANYBODY DOES WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WAS JUST SUGGESTING IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT HAS TO BE A, EVERYBODY HAS TO AGREE. SO I DON'T KNOW. ARE, ARE, WOULD YOU, ARE YOU OKAY WITH US MOVING IT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. , I THOUGHT YOU'D BE, UM, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. OKAY. IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? ARE THERE ANY NEIGHBORS THOUGH THAT MIGHT, ANYBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE TO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SPEAK ABOUT IT. THAT, DO WE GET NEIGHBORS? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YEAH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO DISCUSS IT, HOW DO WE, ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHAT THE FINAL AGENDA IS, WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS. OKAY. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ANNOUNCED SO THAT PEOPLE OKAY. HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. VERY GOOD POINT. VERY GOOD POINT. UM, AND THEN, AND AGAIN, PROPOSING, BUT I, I ALSO THOUGHT THAT, UM, WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT THE, UM, DRB 25, 11 42 1000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE CHANGING OF A SIGN MIGHT ALSO BE AN ITEM. AGAIN, I'M JUST PROPOSING IT AND THE PORTICO SHARE WAS PART OF THAT AND THE PORTICO SHARE. YES. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? YES, I WOULD. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BACK TO NEIGHBORS, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE. YEAH. OKAY. AND I MEAN, WE, WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF YOU FEEL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM CONTROVERSIAL, BUT YEAH. YEAH. YOU NEVER KNOW. UM, OKAY. SO DO WE VOTE INDIVIDUALLY OR, SO WE, SO, UM, SO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADD DRB 24 DASH 1142, UM, WHICH IS 1000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. THAT'S AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE AND EXTERIOR AREAS OF AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING. SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RENOVATE THE FACADE CHANGE SIGNAGE AND PROVIDE A NEW GUARDHOUSE. UM, AND SO I THOUGHT THE GUARDHOUSE WAS NOT PART OF IT. IT'S NO. IF I MAY, THE GUARDHOUSE IS BEING ELIMINATED, SO, BUT IT'S BEING REMOVED. REMOVED, CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD, UM, DISCUSS THE ITEM, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE IT. I MEAN, YOU CAN KEEP IT AS IS AND WE JUST WON'T PERMIT AND BUILD IT. THAT'S ALSO OKAY WITH ME. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY INVOLVED DISCUSSION, BUT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES. I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST. UM, BECAUSE IF THEY GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND IT'S DOESN'T MATCH WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, YOU, YOU MIGHT END THE ISSUES AND HAVE TO COME BACK. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY, . OKAY, SO NEVERMIND ON THAT ONE THEN. THE MOTION IS TO ADD, UM, 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD, WHICH IS DRB 25 11 39. OKAY. UM, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? AND THAT MOTION WOULD BE TO PULL ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON CONSENT OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND THEN, UM, WELL, YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. AND THEN A MOTION TO ADD 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M SORRY, BUT IF THERE IS A NEIGHBOR THAT IS OPPOSED OR HAS ANYTHING TO SAY IN FAVOR OR AGAINST 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD, THEY'RE EXPECT WE WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC. PUBLIC, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC, WE'LL OPEN IT AGAIN. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD, DRB 25 DASH 1139 TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [00:10:01] I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE SHOULD NOW OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ITEM, THEN, THEN IT WOULD AGAIN BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? SO IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBER OR ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT? UM, I DO SEE NICK RODRIGUEZ HAS HIS HAND RAISED. UM, REPRESENTING YOU? YEAH, HE'S WITH OUR FIRM. SO WE'RE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. OKAY. HE JUST, IT WAS LATER ON THE AGENDA, SO THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT HERE YET PHYSICALLY PRESENT. UM, WE DO HAVE A JEREMY C WITH A HAND RAISED. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA, SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A NEW THING. SO IF NOW SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK, DOES IT THEN GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA OR IT JUST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW? YES. MM-HMM . YES. IF THE, IF THE MEMBER OF [18. DRB25-1139, 1600 Cleveland Road.] THE PUBLIC WHO HAS HIS HAND UP WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON 1600, UM, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND PULLING IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY, I MAKE A, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WELL, WE DON'T, WE, WE COULD LET HIM SPEAK BEFORE WE DECIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST TO, YEAH, JUST TO CONFIRM, TO CONFIRM JEREMY C JEREMY, BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING, CAN I JUST SWEAR YOU IN? UH, YES. HI, HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS JEREMY SHEMA. I'M THE OWNER OF 1141, UM, 71ST STREET. JEREMY, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I WILL. I AM. I SWEAR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ON 1600? UH, JUST, NO, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THE, MY, UH, THE PETITION IS FOR DRB 25 11 36. SO, NO, THAT'S, MAYBE IT'S NOT THAT THAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA WAIT FOR YES. FOR THIS ONE TO BE, UH, SPEAK FOR. OKAY. PERFECT. UM, SO THEN THE REST, UH, SO THEN THE, YOU CAN PASS, MAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WILL BE JUST FOR THAT ONE ITEM. OKAY. OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SOLELY WITH THE ITEM DRB 25 1 1 3 9 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD. MOTION TO APPROVE? I HAD ONE QUESTION. OH, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THAT'S ALL THE POLLS. OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST APPROVING. IT'S JUST 1600 CLEVELAND ROAD. OKAY. OKAY. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. DOES EVERYBODY, YEAH. YOU OKAY? YOU MADE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, GREAT. THE MOTION, I APOLOGIZE. WHO MADE THE MOTION? A Q. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. BE OPPOSED. AYE. MOTION PASSES. AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW MOVING ON TO, UM, DRB 25 1100 [11. DRB25-1100, 28 VENETIAN WAY RIGHT-OF-WAY.] REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE 28 VENETIAN WAY. UM, THIS, THE CITY'S STILL WORKING ON THE PLAN, SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL, OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE. SO THEY WANT TILL NEXT MONTH, TILL JANUARY? YES. SO JANUARY MEETING, WHICH ONE ARE WE POSTPONING? I'M SORRY. THE VENET 20 VENETIAN WAY. IT'S LIKE A PUMP STATION THING. IT'S EVEN, IT'S NOT EVEN A, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PACKET. 'CAUSE THEY WANTED A CONTINUANCE. SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE AGENDA AT ALL RIGHT NOW? NO, HERE IT'S NUMBER 11. OH, OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION. DID YOU, I MADE A MOTION. YOU DID SECOND MM-HMM . OKAY. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UH, NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO CONTINUED ITEMS. D RRB 25 DASH 1 0 8 8 6 9 4 5 ABBOTT AVENUE. WE, I APOLOGIZE, MS. [12. DRB25-1141, 800 Pointe Drive.] MADAM CHAIR. WE DID HAVE ANOTHER REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE. OH YES, THAT WAS, UH, THE APOGEE, THAT'S 800 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. SOUTH POINT DRIVE. OKAY. UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT TO THE JANUARY MEETING, WHAT IS THE DATE OF LUKE? JANUARY 8TH? JANUARY 8TH, 2026 MEETING. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE D RRB 25 DASH 11 41 800 SOUTH POINT DRIVE TO EXCUSE, JANUARY. SORRY. WELL, CAN WE DO, CAN WE, UH, CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY ACTUALLY THAT WE CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY OF 2026 DRB FEBRUARY 12TH. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. PUN SECOND BY MS. LEWIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW MOVING [13. DRB25-1088, 6945 Abbott Avenue.] ON TO OUR CONTINUED [00:15:01] ITEM D RRB 25 1 0 8 8 6 9 4 5 ABBOTT AVENUE. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING THIS REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SIX STORY MIXED USE HOTEL BUILDING, INCLUDING A VARIANCE TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A DESIGNATED LOADING SPACE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS. OKAY. SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AT THE OCTOBER MEETING. IT HAS SINCE BEEN CONTINUED. UM, UM, THE DRB DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS, UH, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO PARKING AND LOADING. UM, AND, UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE DRB WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE METAL PANELS AND THE TEXTURE. UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED UPDATED PLANS, WHICH INCLUDE UPDATED RENDERINGS WITH LARGER PHOTOS, UPDATED ELEVATIONS, UPDATED PHOTOS WITH CURRENT CONDITIONS, DETAILS ON THE LOCATION OF CAFE FURNITURE, UPDATED COLOR ELEVATIONS, ADDITIONAL FACADE PERSPECTIVES, UM, AND THEN REVISED PASSENGER LOADING DETAILS. THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS, UH, BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKING DEPARTMENT. UM, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A MEMO FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED THAT TWO CONDITIONS BE ADDED TO THE BOARD ORDER. I'M GONNA READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD. THE FIRST IS THAT ALL DELIVERY, LOADING AND PICKUP DROP OFF OPERATIONS MUST UTILIZE DESIGNATED LOADING AREAS AND MAY NOT OBSTRUCT THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT ANY TIME. AND TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT AN ACCEPTABLE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. PER THE TDM STRATEGIES OUTLINED IN THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DATED JAN DATED JUNE 19TH, 2025, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT. UM, THE, THE PROJECT, ONE OF, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THE LACK OF PARKING ON THE SITE. THE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE, UH, PARKING FOR THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THE SITE, WHICH IS A HOTEL, UM, AND THE RETAIL, UM, IN THIS AREA. SO IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. BUT IN THE TOWN CENTER, UM, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL USES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, UH, PARKING. AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN THE AREA ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THE REQUIRED PARKING THAT THEY NEED. UM, THE, THE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE SO THAT THE, THE, THE, THE CITY COULD NOT MANDATE THAT THEY PROVIDE PARKING WHEN THE CODE DOES NOT IN FACT REQUIRE IT. UM, HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE A PLAN, UM, THAT THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THEM ON, ON HOW, UH, APPLICANTS, HOW, UH, UH, GUESTS OF THE HOTEL WILL BE ABLE TO GET DROPPED OFF AT THE LOADING SPOT IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL. SO THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE HOTEL. UM, AND THEN THAT WILL BE ALSO UTILIZED FOR ANY LOADING THAT THE BUILDING REQUIRES AS WELL. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE BEGIN. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MIRIAM SOLAR RAMOS, WITH OFFICE AT 7 0 1 BRICK AVENUE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO MEET WITH US TODAY. AS, UM, ROGELIO MENTIONED, UH, THIS WAS, UH, BEFORE YOU IN OCTOBER, UH, AND WE TOOK A DEFERRAL TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF. AND SO WE'RE BACK TODAY HOPEFULLY ADDRESSING, UH, SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND READY TO LISTEN TO DESIGN, UH, COMMENTS, UH, SO THAT, UM, IF NECESSARY, THE ARCHITECTS CAN GO BACK. UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED OTHERWISE TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED LAST TIME THAT PERHAPS WILL QUAIL THE CONCERNS ABOUT DESIGN. UH, SO WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION. UH, THE ADDRESS IS 69 45 ABBOTT AVENUE, AND IT IS LOCATED IN THE TCC. THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S A SERIES OF DIFFERENT, UM, THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED AND DISALLOWED IN THAT AREA. THERE ARE PROBABLY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. UH, SO IT'S A 48. THE PROPOSAL IS 40 48 ROOM, UH, HOTEL WITH 11,000, UM, MORE OR LESS SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR, UH, COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO BE A CAFE TO ACTIVATE THE STREET. UH, AND THEN A VARIANCE REQUEST TODAY, AS WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, EXIST A PASSENGER LOADING ZONE THAT'S BEEN THERE TODAY. IT'S A CURRENTLY EXISTING CONDITION, BUT BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS BASICALLY A, IT WAS, UM, PART OF THE OLD, UH, UH, OPERATING FUNCTION OF THAT HOTEL AND WHAT'S CALLED, UH, LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING. BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING A NEW PRODUCT, WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND REQUEST THAT YOU GO UNDER CONTINUANCE, UM, A VARIANCE FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOADING SPACE. UM, AND ALSO THE 70TH STREET PEDESTRIAN PASEO, WHICH IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY THE CODE. SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE TCC ZONE, THE NORTH BEACH TOWN CENTER, UH, WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION WITH THE GOAL OF FOCUSING ON FIVE KEY AREAS. UM, COMPACT, WALKABLE TOWN CENTER IS THE VISION FOR THE AREA ELEVATED ARCHITECTURAL AND STREETS SCAPE DESIGN, WHICH WE HOPE THE PROJECT IS BRINGING, FOSTERING ECONOMIC VITALITY THROUGH DIVERSE USES AND ADVANCING SUSTAINABILITY, UH, MEASURES. [00:20:02] SO THERE WAS A, A PROCESS OF COURSE, THAT WENT INTO THIS IDEA OF THE TCC, UM, BACK IN 2015. UM, THE MAYOR, UH, AND PANEL, THE BLUE RIBBON PANEL FOR NORTH BEACH TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MAKES SENSE, HOW TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA AND MAKE IT INTO A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WALKABLE STREET. UM, AS A, AS A RESULT OF THAT, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION ADOPTED IN OCTOBER OF 2016. UH, AND ULTIMATELY IN NOVEMBER OF 2017, AN ITEM WAS TAKEN TO THE VOTERS THAT RELATED TO, UM, THIS VISION FOR THIS AREA. AND IT DID IN FACT PASS BY 58%, UH, DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDED A DESIGN CHARETTE. UH, A A MASTER PLAN WAS PRODUCED FOR THIS AREA, WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO THE NORTH BEACH MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES FOCUS ON BIKES, PEDESTRIAN TRANSIT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES AND SUSTAINABILITY MATRIX FOR THIS STREET. THIS IS THE, UH, ITEM THAT WAS TAKEN TO THE VOTERS, UH, FOR AN INCREASE IN FAR FOR THIS TOWN CENTER DISTRICT. SO ULTIMATELY, IN NOVEMBER OF 2018, THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED THIS ZONING CATEGORY, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND AGAIN, IT PROMOTES THE IDEA OF COMPACT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, HIGH INTENSITY, UH, TYPE, UH, AREA WITH MIXED USES, UH, SUPPORTING PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, PROMOTING PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION. SO IT IS WITH THAT KIND, THOSE KINDS OF GLASSES THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE REALLY IT BUILDS ON THAT IDEA OF MAKING THIS STREET, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT WHAT IT WAS HISTORICALLY, SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT, SOMETHING INNOVATIVE. AND OF COURSE, IT MAY NOT BE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS TRANSITIONING TO WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE. AND WHEN I SAY THEY, I MEAN, UM, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE CITY. YEARS AGO WHEN THIS SITE STARTED TO BE EVALUATED, IT WAS EVALUATED ORIGINALLY UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, TOOK A LOT OF, UM, AUTHORITY AWAY FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, AND ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED SOME, UH, AS OF RIGHT USES. SO THIS SITE TECHNICALLY IS A LIVE LOCAL ACT SITE. IT COULD GO TO 235 FEET. UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS 67, UM, 41 DWELLING UNITS VERSUS 48 HOTEL UNITS. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A COMPLICATED, UM, UH, ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO THAT. AND THEN, UM, THE INTENSITY OF THE FAR COULD BE 39,000, AND WE'RE AT ABOUT 21,000. SO THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE CONTEXT, WE CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO THERE, BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD, COULD POP UP ON THAT SITE, UH, THANKS TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE. UH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, SOMETHING THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE FOR THE AREA. AND THAT IS, AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION OF THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION, THIS IS THE HOTEL THAT'S THERE. AND IMPORTANTLY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A LOADING ZONE, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND WORKS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING. UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, AGAIN, AS, AS WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THAT IDEA, UH, OF, OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND THEIR POLICY, UH, SHOWS ALREADY THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. THEY'RE ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ARE, UH, IN THAT, THAT THAT GENERAL VICINITY. UH, THIS IS THE GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION I MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, IT FACES ABBOTT. UM, IT IS ALL GLASS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE. SO THE IDEAS FOR IT TO BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, CALL PEOPLE AND TO SIT AT THAT CAFE, UH, TAKE A ZOOM CALL, UH, MEET A FRIEND, ET CETERA, AND AGAIN, LEADS TO THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA. SO THESE ARE REVISED RENDERINGS. UM, THIS IS THE PEDESTRIAN PASS SALE, WHICH YOU SEE THE COURTYARD VIEW AND THE NORTHWEST VIEW. UH, AND AGAIN, THE POEO IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY CODE. UH, SO I THINK LAST TIME THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE, THE POEO WAS A GOOD IDEA. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE. WE, WE HAVE TO PRO PROVIDE IT. UM, SO THIS IS THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE AN ENHANCED STREETS SCAPE. UM, THE REMOVAL OF THE WHITE GATE AND BARRIER, UM, MORE EYES ON THE STREET, THE GLASS ENCLOSURE, AS I SAID, INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, CREATING A MORE VISUALLY, UM, APPEALING, UH, BUILDING. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN TO THE DESIGN TEAM BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TALK DESIGN SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR EXPERTS HERE ABOUT THE, THE WHAT YOU REQUESTED AND WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IF IT'S DIFFERENT, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK. HELLO. GOOD MORNING. NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN. SO TODAY WE BROUGHT TWO THINGS THAT YOU ASKED FOR LAST TIME. ONE OF THEM WAS A SAMPLE OF THE CLADDING FOR THIS BUILDING. UM, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE CLADDING WAS, OR IS, IT'S A POWDER COATED, UM, BENT METAL SURFACE THAT IT WILL BE, UH, COLORED, UM, ALTERNATIVELY TO PROVIDE A, A GRADIENT [00:25:01] LOOK. SO, AND WITH PERFORATIONS THAT ARE BIG ENOUGH TO, UH, MAKE IT ALSO, UH, SEMI-TRANSPARENT. SO, UM, THE, THE FACADE WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN THE CONCAVE AND CONVEX FORMS AND WILL ALSO ALTERNATE BETWEEN THE USE OF COLOR TO GIVE YOU AN EFFECT, LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE ELEVATION. SO THE BOTTOM WILL BE MOSTLY THE ORANGE, UH, PANELS. THE UPPER PART WILL BE MOSTLY THE LIGHT BLUE PANELS. THE IDEA FOR THE LIGHT BLUE AGAIN, IS THAT THE, THAT IT BLENDS INTO THE SKY SO THAT THE, THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING BECOMES A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, CAMOUFLAGED IN THE, IN, IN THE CLOUDS. SO THAT AS TO, TO, UM, TUNE DOWN THE HEIGHT OF IT, WHICH, UH, WHICH WE, UH, UNDERSTAND IS, UH, IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST AS WELL. UM, THE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, YOU PUT THE THREE PRINT UP THERE, THE THREE PRINT SHOWS, THE LAYERING OF THAT FACADE SO THAT YOU SEE THAT THE METAL PIECE GOES IN THE FRONT, THE BLACK, THE GLASS BALCONY GOES IN THE BACK, THE BALCONY BEHIND IT. AND THEN THE, THE FENESTRATION, UH, UH, THAT THEN DEFINES THE INSIDE OUTSIDE, UH, BOUNDARY. SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE . IT'S OKAY, WE, WE, WE CAN PUT IT BACK TOGETHER. . HOPEFULLY THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE WILL BE A LOT MORE YEAH. SOUND. WE MAKE IT. NO, I MEAN, ALSO IT SHOWS YOU, IT DOES, WE MADE IT IN PIECES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE LAYERING WORKS. UM, SO THOSE WERE THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO BRING THIS TIME. UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE, THE LOOK OF IT, BUT WE HOPE THAT INSTEAD OF IT BEING LIKE A KIND OF IMPOSING SCARY LOOK, THE MATERIAL ITSELF SHOWS YOU THAT IT'S MORE OF A, A TRANSPARENT DIALOGUE WITH IT, WITH IT, WITH NATURE AROUND IT, WITH WITH LIGHT AND WITH THE MULTIPLE, UH, MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE ON FACADE. SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MAYBE CELIA CAN RUN YOU THROUGH THE PLAN AND, AND ANY OF THE OTHER PARTS. YEAH, ANY, ANY SORT OF TECHNICAL, UM, UM, THINGS THAT WE HAD TO DO THAT, UM, I BELIEVE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU, YOU HAVE REQUESTED, IT'S A BIT, UH, AGAINST THE CODE, UH, THAT WAS VOTED FOR. SO, UH, WE'VE MAINTAINED THE FOOTPRINT AND, AND, UH, THE QUANTITY, ET CETERA, BECAUSE WE ARE WITHIN THE CODE BOUNDARIES, UM, FOR THAT, IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION AND THEN OF COURSE, HAPPY TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT DESIGN. SO, UM, SO QUICKLY PARKING AS, UH, LIO MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, UM, PARKING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS SITE, UM, PER THE POLICY OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AGAIN, IN LINE WITH THE IDEA THAT IT'S A WALKABLE AREA AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE REGARDLESS. UM, THERE ARE, UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING, UM, IN THE AVAILABLE IN THE AREA. THERE'S THREE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS WITH APPROXIMATELY 112 SPACES, UM, A BLOCK FROM THE PROJECT AND FIVE PARKING LOTS WITHIN, WITH 176 SPACES IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT. UM, WE ALSO ARE HAPPY TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION, UH, WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EXCESS PARKING, UM, TO HAVE A REMOTE PARKING AGREEMENT IF, UM, IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO DO SO. WE'VE TOLD THEM WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. UM, AND ALSO AS YOU'LL SEE LATER, WE ARE PROMOTING, UH, EMPLOYEES COMING IN, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PROVIDING THEM WITH PASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS A TYPE OF HOTEL WHERE SOMEONE WOULD ESSENTIALLY PULL UP IN AN UBER AND THEN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WALKING THE BEAUTIFUL, UH, CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. UM, I DO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER BRIEFLY ENTER THE TRIP GENERATION DATA INTO THE RECORD WITH REGARD TO PARKING. HI, UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UM, SO, UH, RELATED TO THE TRIP GENERATION FOR THE PROJECT, UH, WE MENTIONED THIS, UH, PREVIOUSLY. UH, THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE 19, UH, TRIPS DURING THE AM PEAK HOUR AND 26 TRIPS DURING THE PM PEAK HOUR. SO THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF ONE VEHICLE EVERY TWO TO THREE MINUTES DURING THOSE HIGHS DEMAND PERIODS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING, UH, THIS PROJECT TO BE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, TRIP GENERATOR. AND AS MIRIAM HAD MENTIONED, UH, WE EXPECT THAT MOST GUESTS ARRIVING AND LEAVING THE HOTEL WILL UTILIZE RIDESHARE, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE HOTEL ITSELF WON'T BE PROVIDING PARKING. AND IT'S A MORE CONVENIENT, UH, MODE OF TRANSPORTATION FOR GUESTS, UH, WITHIN MIAMI BEACH EACH. AND AGAIN, AS, UH, ROGELIO HAD MENTIONED, TRANSPORTATION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THAT STUDY AND, UM, WE ENJOYED THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VARIANCES, WHICH ARE, UH, IN YOUR PURVIEW TODAY. UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S TWO VARIANCES, BUT IT'S FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. IT'S TO ALLOW THAT LOADING PASSENGER LOADING ZONE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS TO REMAIN. THE REASON IT'S TRUE IS BECAUSE, UM, TECHNICALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, UM, HAVE IT ON SITE, SO THIS IS TO HAVE IT OFFSITE. AND THE SECOND IS BECAUSE, UM, [00:30:01] THIS ABBOTT AVENUE IS A CLASS B FRONTAGE, WHICH REQUIRES A VARIANCE TO HAVE A LOADING ZONE IN, UH, BEFORE IT. ALSO, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, LOADING AND UNLOADING, UH, WE WILL BE USING ONE OF THE SPACES AVAILABLE ALONG THE STREET THAT'S SHARED BY OTHER PROJECTS SO THAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE TWO SPACES IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING, BUT ONLY ONE FOR PASSENGER LOADING. UH, AND, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION FOLKS WERE EXPLAINING TO US THAT WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS A LOT OF THESE HOTELS USE THE SAME VENDORS. AND SO THEY'LL COME, YOU KNOW, CISCO OR WHOEVER WILL COME AND UNLOAD TO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT SITES BECAUSE THEY USE, UM, SIMILAR VENDORS. SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS. AGAIN, THE EXISTING CONDITION, UM, IS THERE AND WORKING WELL TODAY. AS I HAD MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, UH, THESE ARE, UM, THIS, UH, THE BICYCLE STU UH, SCOOTER STORAGE IS BEING PROVIDED TO, UH, MAKE IT EASIER FOR FOLKS NOT TO USE CARS AS WELL AS THE FREE BUS PASSES FOR EMPLOYEES. UM, AND, AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, WHAT I SAID PREVIOUSLY IS THE, UM, RENTAL PARKING. IF, UH, IF IT BECOMES, UH, NECESSARY, WE'RE HAPPY TO TO EXPLORE THAT. UM, SO, UH, WE HAD LAST TIME AN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER, UM, THE LOADING COULD HAPPEN ON SITE, UM, HAVING THE CARS KIND OF PULL IN, UH, THE, A MANEUVERABILITY ANALYSIS WAS PERFORMED AND IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT BACKING OUT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH COULD CREATE A TRAFFIC HAZARD. SO WE DID EXPLORE IT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T WORK. SO FINALLY, AS MENTIONED, UM, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A SERIES OF CONDITIONS, WHICH, UM, WE ARE FINE WITH COMPLYING WITH OF COURSE, AND HAS MADE FINDINGS THAT, UM, THE PROJECT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, A DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO VARIANCES, OF COURSE, UM, WITH THE C LEVEL RISE AND RESILIENCY CRITERIA, EXCEPT FOR THE RECYCLING PLAN, WHICH WILL BE SUBMITTED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT WITH A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND HARDSHIP CRITERIA FOR THE TWO, UH, VARIANCES. AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE CITY CODE. SO WITH THAT, WE'D, UM, RE UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, UH, AN APPROVAL OF BOTH THE VARIANCE AND THE PROJECT. UM, AND OF COURSE OUR DESIGN TEAM IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO SHARE ADDITIONAL DESIGN, UM, CONCERNS WITH US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY MEM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK AND CHAMBERS OR ONLINE? ONLINE? WE HAVE, UH, CARLOS PERZA AND MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY DO ANY BOARD MEMBER BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE SINCE THE LAST HEARING? I DO. I MET WITH THEM ON A ZOOM MEETING YESTERDAY WITH THE APPLICANT. WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I AS WELL. OKAY. ASK MORE. AND I RECEIVED A CALL FROM, UM, ONE OF THE OWNERS AT 4 0 1 BLUE, AND, UM, SPOKE WITH THE MANAGER, I BELIEVE AT PRIMA PASTA. THANK YOU. AND I REF, I REFERRED IT TO LIO TO SEND THEM THE INFORMATION. OKAY. UM, IS THERE SOMEBODY ONLINE? UM, CARLOS BARRAZA. GOOD MORNING, CARLOS, BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING, UH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. YEAH, GOOD MORNING. UM, I, UM, I LIVE AT 4 0 1 BLUE AND, UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS HERE INTERNALLY AND, UM, HAVE CLOSELY LOOK AT, UH, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN. AND I SPOKE AT BACK IN OCTOBER. UM, UH, WE REMAIN STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, IT WOULD POSE, UM, DANGER TO, UH, HOTEL GUESTS, UM, AND NEIGHBORS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE HOW BUSY ABBOT AVENUE IS AND HOW, UM, HOTEL GUESTS ARE GONNA BE DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP. UM, WE, WE HAVE, UH, A BUS STOP WITHOUT A DEDICATED LINE AND A TROLLEY STOP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT IS CONSTANTLY BLOCKING ONE OF THE LANES ON ABBOT AVENUE. UM, WE, UM, WE HAVE, UM, REACHED OUT TO THE DEVELOPERS REPRESENTATIVE SINCE OCTOBER. AND, UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY KIND OF COMPROMISE ON, ON HOW TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS, UM, FROM THE BEGINNING. WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, UM, PUSH WITH, WE PROPOSED THAT, UH, DEDICATED INGRESS AND EGRESS, UM, UH, BE, UH, BE, UH, DESIGN WITHIN THE PROJECT. WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, AND, AND YOU JUST SAID IT, THAT IT DOESN'T FIT. [00:35:01] UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING DOESN'T FIT ON THE LOT, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO, UM, GO IN THE BUILDING AND GO OUT THE BUILDING FOR PEOPLE TO BE DROPPED OFF. UM, UH, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE TRASH SITUATION, UM, BUILDING DESIGNED THE TRASH IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA HAVE TO BE PULLED OUT THROUGH THE PA SALE. AND THAT'S NOT PERMITTED. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A REDESIGN TO THAT. UM, AND, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT TODAY, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT, UH, TALK WITH, WITH THE CITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BEFORE ANY, UH, ANY APPROVAL IS DONE ON, ON THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND TO CLARIFY, YOU, YOU LIVE IN THE CONDOMINIUM THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CORNER? IS THAT WHERE YOUR RESIDENCE IS? CORRECT? WE, UH, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, ON AB WE, UH, ONE OF OUR, UM, SO, SO ABUD IS THE EAST SIDE IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING. WE'RE ABOUT 50 FEET AWAY FROM WHERE THIS HOTEL IS BEING PROPOSED ON ABBOTT, ABBOTT AVENUE. ON ABBOTT, YES. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. SO HOW CAN CARLOS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SEE THE REPORT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT? IT SHOULD BE ONLINE. OKAY. WITH THE OTHER MATERIALS? YES. IF YOU GO IN THE AGENDA TO THE, UH, CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AGENDA WEBSITE, WHICH IS WWW.MIAMIBEACHFL.GOV/CITY-HALL, UH, SLASH CITY DASH CLERK SLASH MEETINGS, DASH AND AGENDAS. UM, AND YOU'LL SEE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN NAVIGATE TO IT FROM THE MAIN PAGE, UH, THE AGENDAS, AND YOU'LL SEE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 11TH. IF YOU CLICK THAT, YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THE ITEMS, UH, FOR THIS APPLICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER HANDS RAISED. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. WHO WOULD LIKE TO, OH, DID SOMEBODY, ARE YOU HERE? OH, YEAH. SORRY. I'M REOPENING THE PUBLIC PORTION. PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE. ARE YOU THE MICROPHONE OVER THERE? THANK YOU, MARTY. MY NAME IS ANO RA, I LIVE IN, UH, 69 0 0 BAY DRIVE. EH, THANK YOU FOR, LEMME SHARE MY OPINION ABOUT THE, UH, NEW PROJECT. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UM, TO TAKE SOMETHING LITTLE OLD TO GET A, A NEW AND NICE HOTEL. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR, TO CREATE NEW JOBS, NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS, NOT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE HOTEL, BUT FOR EVERYBODY WHO LIVE IN, SORRY ABOUT THAT. IN, UH, MIAMI BEACH. I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THE, UH, THE PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU MAKE SOME GOOD POINTS. OKAY. UM, ARE YOU ALL? GOOD MORNING. MY NAME RICARDO SUAREZ. I LIVE IN NORWAY VILLAGE. I LIVE A LOT OF YEARS. UH, I THINK IT IS A GOOD PROJECT WITH, UH, MIAMI IS NECESSARY. YOU LIVE WHEN YOU WORK OR YOU WORK WHEN YOU LEAVE. YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ME, IT'S A GRAND OPPORTUNITY, NOT ONLY FOR ME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR A JOB, SO I'M USING MY CAR IS ONLY WHEN I, UH, GO TO LONG DISTANCE, SO HAVE MY ELECTRIC BICYCLE OR TO, UH, TROLLEY, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC. IT'S PERFECT PLACE FOR LIVE AND FOR WORLD. SO I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THIS PROJECT FOR NEW PROJECT, BUT MAYBE I'M, AND ME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR JOB. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY NAME IS ALEXIS SANTOS. I ALSO LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH. I ATTENDED A ZOOM MEETING REGARDING THE ABBOTT HOTEL PROJECT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. ONCE I SAW THEIR PLANS AND UNDERSTOOD THE VISION, I AGREED TO COME SHOW MY SUPPORT. I SEE THE BEACH AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WALK. THE GOAL IS TO START GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS. PROJECTS LIKE THIS HELP TOWARDS THAT GOAL. AND FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT'S A DESIGN. I THINK THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE AND IF THE BEACH IS KNOWN FOR ONE THING, IT'S THAT IT'S VERY UNIQUE. I SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE IS GONNA SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD MORNING. [00:40:01] MY NAME IS LIZETTE ARANGO. I RESIDE AT THE, UH, 68 91 MAY DRIVE, APARTMENT 1 0 5, MIAMI BEACH. 3 3 1, 4 1. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. ON NOVEMBER, 2018, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO RENEW PARTS OF THE CITY, INCLUDING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE FINALLY ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME PLANS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS, UH, VISION AND PASS THE ABBOTT PROJECT. I APPROVE OF IT ALSO MYSELF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I'M NOW GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION. THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE? NO. OKAY. CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION. OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? WANNA START? I MEAN, I, I WILL START. UM, I WAS, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT YESTERDAY AND IT MADE ME REFLECT ON A LOT OF THINGS, UM, GOING ON IN THE CITY. I KNOW WE'RE ALL SUPER FRUSTRATED WITH TRAFFIC AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL SUPER FRUSTRATED WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I, I INITIALLY WAS PRETTY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE LOADING AND STUFF. BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S AN EXISTING HOTEL. UM, I DIDN'T LOVE THE DESIGN. I LIKE IT BETTER. SEEING IT IN PERSON WITH THE MATERIALS. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPOSING AND I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF POST, I DON'T KNOW, MAD MAX LOOKING, BUT IN PERSON REALLY, IT LOOKS MUCH BETTER AND MUCH BETTER ON PRESENTATION. UM, I THINK THE FRUSTRATION FOR ME PARTICULARLY IS THIS, WE'RE A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND HERE WE ARE BEING TASKED WITH A VARIANCE FOR A LOADING ZONE, WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE PLANNING OR TRAFFIC. IT SHOULD NOT BE OUR PURVIEW, I JUST BELIEVE THAT. BUT IT IS, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A VERY IMPERFECT SYSTEM. I THINK WE'RE ALSO, I, I DON'T KNOW. I RAN FOR A COMMISSION 10 YEARS AGO AND I DIDN'T KNOW NORTH BEACH VERY WELL. AND I REMEMBER KNOCKING ON THE DOORS BACK THEN, AND THERE'S A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING TODAY, PEOPLE WERE BEGGING FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT UP THERE. IT WAS, IT JUST WAS THE NEGLECTED PART OF OUR CITY FOR SO LONG. AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE DISILLUSIONED WITH SOME OF THESE BIGGER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP. SO I'M BACK TO SUPPORTING. I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANTS, I HAVE TO SAY THEY'RE VERY, UM, THEY'RE VERY CAPABLE. THEY WERE VERY ACCOMMODATING. I THINK THEY'VE TRIED AS HARD AS THEY CAN TO MAKE THIS WORK IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY AS POSSIBLE. SO I GOTTA SAY, I, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AT THIS POINT. UM, AND AGAIN, KNOWING, UH, WORKFORCE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JOBS AND A SMALLER PROJECT THAT IS NOT GONNA HAVE HUNDREDS OF WORKERS COMING EVERY DAY. WE'RE IN A TRANSITION PERIOD BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT AND HAVING DEALT WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. AND I THINK WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT I'M ENCOURAGED. I MEAN, I THINK THE CITY IS WORKING ON IT. I THINK THERE'S, THEY'RE MORE OPEN TO IT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M BASICALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AT THIS POINT. I CHANGED MY MIND. THANK YOU. UM, IL YOU ALSO, DO YOU WANNA ALSO REPORT 'CAUSE YOU MET WITH THE APPLICANT? YES. WELL, I WAS IN SUPPORT OF PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN REINFORCED SINCE I, I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM AND REVIEWED THE LAND USE MAP AND PLANS AS WELL. AND, UM, BEING IN RESIDENT OF NORTH BEACH, WALKING THOSE STREETS EVERY SINGLE DAY, I SEE HOW THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT THE PROJECT THAT THEY PRESENTED, I DON'T THINK WILL IMPACT IT LIKE IT'S BEEN CONCERNED. SO I THINK IT WILL IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M STILL IN SUPPORT PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? I WILL SPEAK. UM, I WAS OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO THE COMMISSION. UM, I THINK IT WAS IN NOVEMBER. UM, AND I STILL DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE RIGHT PROJECT AS DESIGNED FOR THAT AREA. I CANNOT BE IN FAVOR OF THE TWO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED TO REMOVE, UH, THE OFF STREET PARKING LOADING REQUIREMENT, UH, NOR THE SECOND VARIANCE, WHICH IS TO ALLOW TWO ON-STREET LOADING SPACES. AND MY REASON FOR THAT ARE THE FOLLOWING. UM, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON ABBOTT AVENUE AND AS STATED BY ONE OF THE, UM, RESIDENTS THAT LIVES NEARBY. UH, YOU ALSO HAVE NO, UH, LOADING AND UNLOADING FOR THE BUS STOP OR THE TROLLEY, WHICH THEN STOPS THE LANE OF TRAFFIC, UM, THAT EXISTS THERE. NOW, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DELINEATES THAT THERE'S 19 TRIPS ANTICIPATED IN THE MORNING, 26 IN THE AFTERNOON. UM, BUT THAT'S, UM, ALREADY IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC THAT IS EXPERIENCED ON ABBOTT [00:45:01] AND IN THAT NORTH BEACH CORRIDOR 24 7, UM, THERE IS NO EXCESS PARKING ON OTHER BUILDINGS. UH, IN FACT, 4 0 1 BLUE, UH, I KNOW YOU APPROACHED THEM FROM WHAT THEY TOLD ME, AND THEY ARE SHORT OF PARKING BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE BUILDING. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, I KNOW YOU GOT SOME PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT. UH, BUT THREE OF THOSE PEOPLE SPEAKING TODAY, UM, LIVE AS CLOSE TO THE PROJECT AS I DO. UM, BAY DRIVE IS ACROSS THE BRIDGE ABOUT SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY. UM, AND THERE'S TWO PEOPLE FROM BAY DRIVE AND, AND YOU'RE STILL PART OF THE CITY. YOU'RE STILL RESIDENTS AND YOU SHOULD STATE YOUR OPINION. BUT IT, IT IS, UH, A PROBLEM. THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE AND THE LACK OF PARKING AND THESE TWO VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED, I BELIEVE WILL ADD, UH, TO THAT PARKING AND TRAFFIC PROBLEM. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WENT TO THE VOTERS I WAS VOTING ON THAT DAY. HOWEVER, I DO NOT BELIEVE, AND I I CAN SAY I AM 99% SURE THAT PEOPLE VOTING DID NOT REALIZE THE RESIDENTS OF MIAMI BEACH, THAT THEY WERE VOTING FOR BUILDINGS, UH, SUCH AS THIS AND, AND OTHERS TO NOT REQUIRE ONSITE PARKING. UM, AND ONSITE LOADING OR, AND ONSITE, UM, ARRIVAL, UM, AND, UM, DEPARTURE OF GUESTS. UM, THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN PASSED BY 58%. THERE WAS A BIG CAMPAIGN TO PUT TO, TO REVITALIZE NORTH BEACH AS THERE NEEDED TO BE. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THINGS THAT WILL NOT IMPROVE THE AREA, BUT WILL CONGEST THE AREA MORE. UM, THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER CONDITION, IF YOU ALL AS A BOARD APPROVE THIS, UM, THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THIS. THE EO IS REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CALL IT A EO TO MAKE IT SOUND SEXY AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT. BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE LOADING DOCK OF THE BUILDING. AM I RIGHT IN THIS? UH, I, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO THE LOADING DOWN IS OCCURRING AT THE BEGINNING. SORRY. THE TRASH CONTAINER. THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, COME UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE TRASH. OKAY. UM, THE TRASH IS IN, IN THE REAR OF A BUILDING WHERE IT SHOULD BE, UM, THE ONCE A DAY OR ONCE EVERY FEW DAYS. I DON'T KNOW THE LOGISTICS. IT WILL BE ROLLED OUT WITH A POSSIBLY A A A GOLF CART. YEAH. AND BROUGHT OUT TO THE STREET. OKAY. UM, BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE, IF YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A CAFE, THERE'S, UH, AN ENGAGED AREA THAT IS THE MAJORITY PART OF THE EO. OKAY. SO THE GARBAGE, UH, WILL BE PULLED OUT TO THE STREET THROUGH THE EO. WOULD YOU PREFER IT THROUGH A BUILDING? IT'S, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CONFIRMING IT'S, IT'S TO THE PASS SALE. SO MY, MY CONDITION WOULD BE IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE, BY THIS BOARD THAT THE, UM, PROPERTY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING AT ALL TIMES THE CLEANLINESS OF THAT PASS SALE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED BY PLANNING IN SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL WHERE THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE, UH, KEPT IN GOOD CONDITIONS AT ALL TIMES. SO I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE CONDITION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN A CONDITION LISTED. I DIDN'T READ ALL OF THEM. UM, YEAH, THE IS NOT A PUBLIC, UH, IT'S NOT BELONGING TO THE CITY AS, AS OF YET. IT'S STILL PART OF THE PROPERTY. SO IT WILL HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS. I UNDERSTAND. AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A CONDITION AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A LETTER AS PLANNING SOMETIMES REQUIRES OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF. WE DO HAVE CO COMPLIANCE. UM, BUT SOMETIMES AS WE'VE SEEN HERE, UM, PEOPLE GET CITED AND THEY GET CITED AND MAYBE 10 YEARS LATER IT GOES, UH, STILL UNDONE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION THAT I WOULD ADD. I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY IS ONLY 50 FEET WIDE AND THEREFORE DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE, UH, RADIUS TO BE ABLE TO DO A DRIVEWAY. UM, DOES THAT 50 FOOT DRIVE OR OR WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDE THE WIDTH OF THE EO? YES, THE EO TAKES UP, UH, 10 FEET [00:50:01] OF THE, OF THE 60 FOOT. SO OF THE, OUR, OUR SET, IT'S A, IT'S A SETBACK. SO WE, THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL RECORD SHOWS THAT IT'S A 50 FOOT WIDE PROPERTY. SO IF THE 10 FOOT EO, THE 10 FOOT WIDE EO IS INCLUDED IN 60, THEN I GUESS IT'S UP BEYOND THE, IT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 50. UM, I'M BEING TOLD IT'S ACTUALLY 50 MINUS THE 10. SO IT'S 40. OKAY, SO IT'S 40. YEAH. SO EVEN WORSE YET YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO DO A DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. YOU'D HAVE TO BACK UP. I UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, I JUST, UH, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I UNDERSTAND IT MAY BRING SOME JOBS TO THE AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO, CAUSE IF I WEIGH THE, THE BENEFITS AND THE DISADVANTAGES IN MY MIND IT'S GOING TO CAUSE MORE, UM, HASSLE AND, UH, PROBLEMS FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE NOW AND THAT WORK IN THAT AREA. NOW. THAT'S MY OPINION. UH, I ALSO WANTED TO ASK YOU THIS. I, I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WONDER IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TALK FIRST. 'CAUSE WE SEEM TO BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT LIKE OPERATIONAL LOGISTICS TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN ISSUES, JUST AS A WAY TO ORGANIZE AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE DESIGN CONCERNS. OH, I JUST WANTED, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND YOU ALL PASSED A BLUE AND UP. YEAH. THESE HOLES HERE ARE THIS, IS THIS, RIGHT. OKAY. AND WHAT MATERIAL? THIS IS GONNA BE BASICALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THIS IS THE MATERIAL. OKAY. THIS IS THE MATERIAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. UM, ADAM, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WANTED TO, I HAVE DESIGN QUESTIONS, SO I'LL WAIT TILL OKAY. ME TOO. OKAY. UM, ACTUALLY, THANK YOU. UM, SO, AND, AND DO YOU HAVE, OKAY, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. UM, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, SOME WERE FORWARD AND SOME WERE AGAINST IT. AND I WAS AGAINST THIS PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING. I CANNOT APPROVE THIS IN GOOD CONSCIENCE BECAUSE OF A PARKING ISSUE DRIVING TRAFFIC THAT IS ALREADY THERE. AND THAT THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO DO ALL THESE OTHER CHANGES TO THIS, AND THEN NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU HAVE REMOTE PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT REALLY ISN'T HOW MANY I WOULD, WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW. IT'S LIKE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE YOU REALLY BRINGING EMPLOYEES? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CREATING CHAOS FOR THE SAKE OF UBER DRIVERS. BECAUSE UBER DRIVERS DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE THEY PARK NUMBER ONE. UBER DRIVERS JUST PULL UP AND THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS ASK TO GET DROPPED OFF ANYWHERE. THEY DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR THEM. SO THIS IS MORE JUST A VENTING. BUT I'M A, I'M A NO A HARD NO ON THIS ONE. AND JUST FOR PARKING, ZION IS, WOULD, WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT FOR PARKING SITUATION AND TRAFFIC MODIFICATIONS, NO. MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANNA MAKE A SUGGESTION TO GUIDE THE BOARD'S DISCUSSION. 'CAUSE TWO MEMBERS HAVE RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. UM, THERE IS NO ONSITE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND I KNOW THAT COMPLETELY, RIGHT? NO, THAT, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SET MULTIPLE TIMES. BUT THE BOARD IS CONSTRAINED TO, TO APPLY, UH, TO APPLY THE LAW, RIGHT. TO APPLY THE CODE. AND UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN CONDITION YOUR, YOUR VOTE ON ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, UM, BUT YOU ARE CONSTRAINED BY WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT. SO IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ISSUES RELATING TO, TO LOADING AS IT RELATES TO YOUR DESIGN CRITERIA, THAT'S ONE THING. UM, BUT THE BOARD CANNOT IMPOSE A PARKING REQUIREMENT OR DENY A PROJECT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T PROVIDE PARKING IF THE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE PARKING. I JUST, I THANK YOU AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. I WAS REFERRING TO THE TWO VARIANCES, UM, THAT REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THIS BOARD. ONE IS TO REMOVE THE OFF STREET LOADING, UM, REQUIREMENT, AND THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW TWO ON-STREET LOADING SPACES. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT IS WITHIN YOUR PERVIEW, RIGHT? YES. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE, THE ELECTIONS WERE HELD, UH, 10 YEARS AGO OR SO. UM, AND IT PASSED, UM, WITH NO PARKING REQUIREMENT IN, IN CERTAIN PROPERTIES OF THE, OF THE, UM, DISTRICT. HOWEVER, MY ONLY COMMENT AS TO PARKING WAS THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE VOTING DID NOT KNOW THAT THESE PROJECTS WERE BEING, UM, [00:55:02] APPROVED OR PUT INTO THE CODE WITHOUT ANY PARKING REQUIREMENT. THAT BEING SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT HERE AS A BOARD TO CHANGE THAT. THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION CAN TAKE IT UP AT THEIR, AT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WISH, IF THEY FEEL IT'S A PROBLEM. BUT I WAS REFERRING FOR ME TO THE TWO VARIANCES BEING REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE AREAS THAT EXIST. YES. SHOULD WE BE SPENDING ALL OF OUR ENERGY TALKING ABOUT PARKING AND LOGISTICS WHEN IT SHOULD BE ABOUT DESIGN DESIGN? WELL, AND I ALSO WONDER TOO, OF HAVING THE ADDITIONAL LOADING ZONE IS GONNA ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAVEL CONCERNS. I WANTED TO ASK, UM, TO SORT OF PIGGYBACK, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN AN EFFORT TO FIND CONSENSUS AND TO HELP EVERYBODY, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED, THE COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS, THE APPLICANT MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. LET ME ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. YOU, YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT, AND, AND I PERSONALLY AM VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, POSITIVELY PERSUADED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SPOKEN, MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND THE REASONS WHY. UM, AND I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE CHANGE, YOU NEED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK. YOU TALK A LOT IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS OR, OR THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BEING, THIS PROJECT BEING PART OF THIS LARGER COMMUNITY VISION. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO DO TO, TO HELP ACHIEVE THAT. UM, I KNOW THAT, SO THE QUESTION WAS THAT WE ASKED BEFORE, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE WORKING AT THE HOTEL? I, I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. I'M LOOKING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH THE PLAN. SO I WANNA TELL YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GET YOU THAT ANSWER. OKAY. IS THERE ANY SORT OF A, A BALLPARK OR, WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO IT. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HELPFUL TOO. I'M SEEING HERE, I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN OF THE FIRST FLOOR THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE TRYING TO SITUATE THIS WITHIN A LARGER CONTEXT OF THE CITY IS PROMOTING WALKABILITY, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND SO I WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE TO DO THAT. LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THE BIKE ROOM. WE HEARD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAY, I HAVE AN ELECTRIC BIKE THAT I COULD TAKE TO WORK. CAN YOU ADD A CHARGING FACILITY IN THE BIKE ROOM? SO IF YOU DO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THAT, IT ENCOURAGES THAT THEY DO THAT. THEY DO. OKAY. YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A BIKE ROOM TO ENCOURAGE, UH, AND FOR LIKE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC, WE HAVE, UM, SCOOTERS, THE BUS PASSES FOR THE EMPLOYEES. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, COULD YOU ADD TO THE BIKE ROOM? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE TECHNOLOGY WORKS. UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A CHARGE SAYING YOU JUST PLUG THEM INTO A REGULAR SOCKET. OKAY. BECAUSE NOW IT'S MORE THAN BIKES. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SCOOTERS NOW, SO, RIGHT. AND SO TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE BIKE ROOM THERE IS PLENTY OF ELECTRICITY, YOU CAN JUST, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY ASK. I'M BEING TOLD ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 20 EMPLOYEES, 20 EMPLOYEES. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE, I DO KNOW THAT A HUGE PART OF THE VISION OF THE CITY IS TO CREATE JOBS. SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO LOWER MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC IS TO HAVE JOBS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. AND THIS SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN TOWARDS THAT, ARE THERE ANY, ARE YOU GOING TO, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, BUT ARE YOU GONNA COMMIT TO HIRING MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS? OR HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU AS A BUSINESS, AS AN OPERATION? AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS FEEL FREE TO COME UP, YOU KNOW, TO ENCOURAGE, TO BE PART OF THIS VISION OF THIS CITY. SO MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS OUR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE. HI EVERYBODY. SO YES, I WORK WITH INVESTORS THAT REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS SITE AND THE TOWN CENTER COMMUNITY. WE DON'T ONLY HAVE PROPERTIES HERE IN THIS TOWN CENTER, BUT ALSO IN THE RM ONE WHERE WE TRY TO DO WORKFORCE HOUSING BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS AREA WITH THE TOWN CENTER IS BECOMING A HOTEL, UM, OFFICES USES AND AROUND IS MIDDLE CLASS WHO WILL BE THE, UM, EMPLOYEES. EMPLOYEES, SORRY, MY SPANGLISH . UM, BUT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO EMPLOY PEOPLE FROM MIAMI BEACH BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORKFORCE AROUND IN NORTH BEACH, UM, NORTH BAY VILLAGE AGAIN, BUT WE, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MIAMI BEACH ESPECIALLY SO THEY CAN COME WALKING WITH THEIR SCOOTERS. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE NOW THAT LIVES LIKE BLOCKS AWAY AND SHE COMES WITH THE SCOOTER. SO THAT'S OUR VISION AND WHAT WE ALWAYS PLAN WITH THIS PROPERTY. AND WE KNOW IT'S A SMALL PROPERTY AND AS SHE WAS SAYING, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT AND WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BLEND WITH THE, I THINK WITH THE VISION OF THE CITY. UH, BUT THIS SMALL PROJECT I THINK IS NICE. AND THE IDEA IS TO BRING JOB, TO BRING A NICE, UM, LANDSCAPE, UM, AND BE PART OF THE PA SALE. THE IDEA OF THE PA SALE IS TO KEEP IT NICE BECAUSE [01:00:01] IT'S GONNA BE PART OF OUR PROPERTY AS WELL. SO WE'RE GONNA SHARE IT. SO THE IS TO KEEP IT ALWAYS CLEAN, UH, BECAUSE IT'S OUR IMAGE AS WELL AS A HOTEL, SO YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF PRICE POINT? THE IDEA FOR THE ROOMS IS TO DO, YEAH. ROOMS FROM THREE 50 UP. OUR VISION IS TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA WORK IN THE AREA. YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ZOOM CALLS IN THE CAFE, THAT THEY COME TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. UM, WE, WE HAVE THE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH THE HOURS, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE POOL AND IT'S A MINIMUM OF AAA, THREE DIAMOND HOTEL OR SIMILAR RATING. THAT'S WHAT WE COMMITTED TO. YES. OUR IS TO HAVE LIKE A NICE HIGH-END HOTEL. I THINK THAT'S MORE WHAT THE VISION OF THE, THIS AREA IS BECOMING, YOU KNOW? AND, UM, REALLY I'M WONDERING WHAT OTHER HOTEL, LIKE, I'M THINKING OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE AREA ARE MORE CONDOS. ARE THERE OTHER HOTELS ON THIS BLOCK? ON 71ST STREET, THERE IS A PROJECT WHERE THE DENNY'S IS, THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT HAS A HOTEL COMPONENT. UM, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, THAT WAS GONNA BE PRIMARILY A HOTEL. THE ONE ON COLLINS, THE DENNY'S, WHERE THE DENNY'S IS, IT'S COLLINS BETWEEN 71ST AND 72ND AND NORTH HALF OF THE BLOCK. UM, THAT WAS, THAT'S THE, SO FAR THE ONLY HOTEL PROJECT. AND THERE ISN'T THERE ANOTHER ONE ON, I GUESS I FORGET THE STREET THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT. MAYBE IT'S CARLISLE OR BYRON. THAT WAS, IT WAS A SHORT TERM LEASE. IT'S, UM, IT'S CO-LIVING, WHICH ARE THE MM-HMM . THE SMALL APARTMENT UNITS. IT COULD BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT, UM, AS, AS YOU KNOW, STATE LAW PREEMPT US FROM, FROM REGULATING SHORT TERM RENTAL. SO THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND THAT'S ON THE ADJACENT, THAT'S THE NEXT STREET OVER? IT'S THE NEXT STREET OVER, YEAH. IT'S ON CARLISLE AND 72ND, RIGHT? YEAH. OH NO, I'M THINKING SOUTH OF 71ST. SOUTH OF THIS IS ON 69 BEHIND THE BYRON FEED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT. UM, ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE. THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AS CO-LIVING. THEY ARE SWITCHING, THEY ARE LIKELY GONNA HAVE A HOTEL COMPONENT AS WELL. SO, AND THAT'S ON BYRON? UM, NO, RIGHT ON ABBOTT ACROSS THE STREET. OH. SO NOW THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET. MM-HMM . AND DOES THAT PROJECT HAVE ONSITE, UM, UM, LOADING AND UNLOADING? YES. OR IT DOES? YES. SO IT DOESN'T GO ONTO THE STREET. CORRECT. AND THE PARKING, UH, STUDY THAT WAS DONE, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE AS TO IT, THE 19:00 AM TRIPS THAT IT GENERATES IN THE 20 6:00 PM TRIPS THAT IT GENERATES, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE TRIPS FROM THE 40 EMPLOYEES THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING? YES, IT DOES. OKAY. 20 EMPLOYEES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT A CONDITION THAT 50% OF EMPLOYEES MUST BE FROM WITHIN? NO. EARLIER ? YEAH. NO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THERE'S A LOT OF FAITH OF COMPROMISE. YOU KNOW, SAY WE REALLY WANT THE REST, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU COME AND SPEAK? SORRY, IT NEEDS TO BE ON RECORD. WELL, IT'S HAPPENED. YOU CAN HAVE OUR COMPROMISE AS A DEVELOPMENT GROUP BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE, AGAIN, EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYEES, TO COME WITH A BIKE, NOT TO COME DRIVING. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY'RE LATE. EVERYTHING CAN HAPPEN. SO THE IDEA IS TO GROW AS A CITY WITH MIAMI BEACH. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S, WE CANNOT PUT IT IN WRITING, BUT, UM, WE, WE ARE GONNA DO IT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO YEAH. AS A DEVELOPMENT GROUP. OKAY. SO, UM, THANK YOU. I THINK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS LOGISTICALLY, LAURA? UM, I JUST HAD A COUPLE, UH, ONE QUESTION. THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN ANSWERED, BUT, UM, THE LOADING ZONE, IS THAT GONNA BE EXCLUSIVE TO THE PROJECT, OR IS YES. AND, AND I ACTUALLY WANTED TO MAKE A CORRECTION. IT'S NOT TWO SPACES ANYMORE. WE WERE ORIGINALLY REQUESTING TWO. UM, THE CITY AS TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT EXPLAINED THAT ALONG THAT STREET THEY HAVE LIKE, SHARED COMMERCIAL LOADING AND LOADING. SO WE'LL BE USING THAT SHARED SPACE TO NOT CREATE AN ADDITIONAL SPACE. AND WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR ONE SPACE IN THE VARIANCE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TWO VARIANCES FROM THE CODE, IT'S ONLY ONE SPACE FOR PASSENGER LOADING AND UNLOADING. OKAY. AND SO IS THAT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY? YES. AND IT'S THE SAME EXACT CONDITION THAT EXISTS AND WORKS WELL TODAY, SO, RIGHT. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE A LOADING ZONE THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE PROPERTY, BUT ONLY ONE. CORRECT. AND THIS SHARED SPACE, IS IT NEXT TO IT? SO EFFECTIVELY THERE'S TWO NO, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CONDITIONAL. SORRY. NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING IN GENERAL, YOU'D SAID THAT ON THE BLOCK THERE'S SHARED LOADING ZONE SPACES. OH YES. ARE THOSE IN FRONT OF YOUR, OR THEY'RE FURTHER DOWN THE BLOCK? NO, THEY'RE DOWN THE BLOCK. THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT SPACES BECAUSE THEY'RE SHARED BY VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE IDEA. IT'S LIKE A COMMUNAL COMMERCIAL LOADING AND UNLOADING. AND THE LOADING SPOT THAT NO, THAT IS CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF THE, UH, I THINK IT'S A FOUR APARTMENT BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW. UH, IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT? NO, THE CURRENT, IT'S A HOTEL APARTMENT? YES. THE CURRENT BUILDING IS, UH, 4 4 11 [01:05:01] UNITS. 11 UNITS. OKAY. THAT WE HAVE, YEAH, 11 UNITS. SO THE CURRENTLY THERE'S ONE, UM, LOADING DOCK ON THE STREET? YES. AND IT IS ONLY, IT'S IT'S ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? YES. BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? IT IS NOT. SO IT SAYS IT'S ONLY, IT HAS THE YELLOW STRIPE AND SAYS IT A SIGN. DO YOU WANNA, CAN YOU BRING UP NOBODY ELSE CAN USE IT. CAN YOU BRING UP THE PHOTO FROM THE PRESENTATION? UM, IT'S ON PAGE 19. YEAH. WHY WOULD, OH, WAIT, GO BACK 19. DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW IF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY PAYS FOR THAT LOADING SPOT? NO. SO THAT LOADING SPOT CAN BE UTILIZED BY ANYONE ON THE STREET? YES. YES. YEAH. IT'S NOT DEDICATED TO THIS, UH, 11 UNIT BUILDING. IT'S JUST EXISTS THERE. AND, UM, THERE'S A CURB CUT THERE. UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO AREAS IN FRONT OF THE CURRENT BUILDING OR LOADING OR PARKING OR JUST ONE. YEAH, THIS IS THE DEDICAT. SO ONCE YOU REMOVE THE CURB CUT, YOU FEEL YOU CAN HAVE TWO SPOTS. IT'LL STILL BE ONE. WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING ONE. AND THEN HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH GARBAGE? JUST ALL OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW DOES THEY JUST PARK IN THE LOADING ZONE? YES, THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT THEY, THE GARBAGE TRUCK. AND THE SAME WITH, WITH PEOPLE WHEN THEY DO THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP. RIGHT. IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT MORE 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A LARGER DENSITY. YEAH, A LITTLE. YEAH. BUT, AND WHAT ONE THING I'D MAYBE SUGGEST, AND I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONDITION EMPLOYEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT MY, GOING BACK TO THE OCTOBER MEETING, I MEAN, I DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PARKING, BUT I WAS SLIGHTLY CONCERNED WITH THE DROP OFF, GIVEN IT'S A HOTEL. UM, MAYBE YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE AT THE, IN THESE HIGH TIMES, LIKE DEDICATED TO HELPING PEOPLE GET THEIR LUGGAGE OUT OF THE UBER, MOVE THIS EFFICIENTLY, YOU KNOW, AS POSSIBLE. UM, YEAH, USUALLY THIS TYPE OF HOTEL HAVE ONE PERSON IS KIND OF A CONCIERGE THAT HELPS WITH THE LUGGAGE AND THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO CARRY THE LUGGAGE TO THE ROOM. SO, OKAY. IT CAN BE ADDED TO THE OPERATIONAL PLANS. MOVE THEM OFF THE PERCENT, I THINK PAYING LIKE UPWARDS OF $300 FOR A HOTEL, I'D WANT THAT. YES. UM, BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER SUGGESTION WHILE WE WERE ON THE TOPIC OF A HUNDRED PERCENT YEAH. EMPLOYEES. AND THEN COULD IT BE THAT THERE ARE TWO DEDICATED SPOTS, OR AM I GOING DOWN, AM I CREATING MORE PROBLEMS THAN THE, TO FACILITATE THE IN AND OUT OR TO WE NOT WANNA LOSE THE PARKING SPOT. THE, IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE PARKING DEPARTMENT, THEY HAD CONCERNS OVER PROVIDING TWO SPOTS. THEY WERE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH JUST ONE AT THIS TIME, UH, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THEM AVAILABLE FOR THE THING FOR OTHER THINGS AND FOR PARKING, FOR, FOR PEOPLE STAYING IN THE AREA, PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA. UM, SO THEY, THEY WANTED THOSE SPACES. SO THE SECOND SPOT WILL BE A PARKING SPOT FOR WHOEVER COMES FIRST. YEAH. THERE'S ONLY ONE SPOT, RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S JUST ONE SPOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. RIGHT. IT'S A REGULAR STREET. THERE'LL BE A ONE PARKING SPOT AND ONE LOADING SPOT. NO, THERE'S JUST ONE, JUST THE ONE LOADING SPOT. AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S PAID PARKING ON THE STREET THAT EXISTS REGARDLESS. BUT THERE'S JUST ONE SPOT WE'RE REQUESTING. I UNDERSTAND. BUT AFTER THE PROJECT IS DONE, THERE WILL BE A LOADING SPOT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THE PARKING DEPARTMENT OR TRANSPORTATION IS SAYING THAT THE SECOND AREA BE A REGULAR PARKING MM-HMM . RIGHT? YES. THAT'S WHAT EXISTS NOW. MM-HMM . YEAH. RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. NO. THE STREET WILL LOOK THE SAME. RIGHT. JUST LIKE IT'S ALL DOWN COLLINS AVENUE AND OCEAN DRIVE. LET'S BE REAL FOR A MINUTE. YEAH. I MEAN, UM, OKAY. DO WE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER, SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO DESIGN CONCERNS? I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK. I DON'T WANNA RESTRICT IS A QUESTION. OH, YES. WHY IS THERE A VARIANCE OF JUST NO CHANGE? THE USE OF THIS, BECAUSE YEAH. IT WAS A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE. AND WHEN YOU REV REVITALIZE THE PROPERTY YEAH. THEN WE CAN'T GRAB ONTO THAT USE AND BRING IT WITH US. WE HAVE TO ASK, IT'S NOT GRANDFATHERED IN WHEN YOU REDO. YEAH. I WISH THAT WERE NOT THE CASE, BUT . YEAH. OKAY. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE, IF YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GONNA START MAYBE WITH SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE DESIGN. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IN A SAMPLE, I WILL SAY, AND I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE TOO IS THAT YOUR RENDERINGS DIDN'T REALLY DO JUSTICE EXPLAINING WHAT THE DESIGN IS. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN DO, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT US TO PASS THE MODEL OVER? YOU CAN SEE IT. OKAY. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DELICATE. DO YOU WANNA SEE THAT? OKAY. UM, I, SO I WASN'T HERE FOR THE DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER AND, AND I DID WATCH REPORTING ONLINE, BUT I KNOW WE DIDN'T DELVE AS MUCH INTO DESIGN CONCERNS. SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, THIS WRAP? AND THE THING THAT I, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A HOTEL, AND IF I WERE TO COME TO MIAMI BEACH, I WANNA SEE BEAUTIFUL MIAMI BEACH. AND AS THIS IS DESIGNED, IT SEEMS LIKE IT EXUDES A LOT OF THESE VIEWS. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING [01:10:02] WHY, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE CONCEPT BEHIND WRAPPING THE BUILDING IN THIS ALUMINUM? UM, OKAY. SO THE, THE FIRST, THE FIRST, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES GOING ON WITH WHY, WHY IT'S THIS WAY. UM, ONE OF THEM IS, UM, OBVIOUSLY TO GIVE IT A A, AND THIS IS THE, THE SIMPLER ONE TO EXPLAIN WITHOUT THE DIRECT QUESTION, BUT TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDENTITY, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT READING OF WHAT BUILDINGS CAN DO IN MIAMI BEACH, WHICH IS KNOWN FOR ITS DIVERSITY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUILDING THAT IS, UH, THAT HAS, UH, MULTIPLE STORIES. AND WE, WE LIKED THE IDEA OF ADDING A BIT OF A, A BIT OF COLOR AND A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, AGAIN, ONE COLOR THAT WOULD BLEND INTO THE SKY. THE OTHER ONE WOULD POP UP A LITTLE BIT. UM, THE, THE IDEA WITH, WITH CREATING A A, A FILTER, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT LETS LIGHT IN THAT GIVES YOU PRIVACY, BUT STILL ALLOWS THE NATURAL, NATURAL LIGHT TO GO THROUGH. UM, WE, WE SEE THAT THE SURROUNDINGS CURRENTLY ARE VERY EXPOSED AS WELL. UM, MEANING THAT THIS WOULD ALSO GIVE, UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, OF SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES SO THAT THE SUN DOESN'T HIT THE, THE GLASS DIRECTLY. SO IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LIKE A, LIKE A LIKE A WAY TO PROMOTE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SUSTAINABLE ARCHITECTURE. AND AGAIN, AND PRIVACY MEANING, UH, YOU HAVE BALCONY STACK NEXT TO EACH OTHER. EACH ONE HAS THEIR OWN, UH, PRIVATE BALCONY, SO TO SPEAK. SO WE, I MEAN, WE TEND TO SEE THAT A LOT OF TIMES THINGS GET, ARE OVEREXPOSED. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE PUT PLANTS AND RENDERS AND THEY NEVER HAPPEN. MM-HMM . UH, SO THEN YOU END UP WITH THE SAME GENERIC BUILDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UH, REVERTING BACK TO THAT. AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE TRYING TO KIND OF LIKE WALK A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THANK AND PROPOSE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE COLOR, AND AGAIN, 'CAUSE THE RENDERING ISN'T REALLY NO. AND I UNDERSTAND THE, SO IT'S, IT'S IT AT THE TOP, IT'S GONNA BE THIS COLOR, RIGHT? AND THEN IT'S GONNA HAVE A GRADIENT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE ORANGE. EXACTLY. AND THE BOTTOM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PASSILLA RENDERS, THERE'S MORE LIKE, UH, THE ULA, IT'S LIKE THE, THE, THE NATURAL STONE. SO IT'S THE WARMER COLORS IN THE BOTTOM AND THE SKY AT THE TOP. OKAY. AND A NATURAL GRADY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE, THE, THE NORTH FACE, THE NORTH ELEVATION THAT'S PAINTED. RIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME IDEA. THE SAME IDEA. AND BECAUSE WE'RE UP AGAINST A PARTY LINE, AND IN THE FUTURE, THAT LOT COULD BE DEVELOPED UP RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PARADIGM. WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THAT UP TOO. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT. SO. RIGHT. MAYBE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO PUT UP THE SCREEN OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS WE DISCUSSED THE DESIGN. YEAH. IT'S SLIDE 14. SLIDE 14. YEAH, THAT'S THE BACK. I MEAN, SORRY, THAT'S THE BACK. YEAH, THERE'S THE FRONT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS IS THE BEST REPRESENTATION YOU HAVE OF THE FULL FACADE OF THE BUILDING? IT'S THE IDEA, IT'S THE CONCEPT. I, I THINK THAT THE, THE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE COULD PROVIDE A, A, A SUPER PHOTOREALISTIC RENDER OF WHAT, WHAT THE ULTIMATE RESULT OF THIS WOULD BE. NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH. WHAT WE, WHAT WE REQUIRE. SO LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE AS WE SEE IN THIS MODEL, THE PANELS SEEM TO BE, SO THEY'RE CURVING, RIGHT? THERE'S A VARIATION. THE ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T, I WASN'T QUITE SURE ABOUT WAS THE RHYTHM OF THESE PUNCTUATED RECTANGLES WHERE IT DIDN'T, I THINK MAYBE THAT, THAT'S PART OF WHY IT, IT, IT, IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT AR I CAN'T QUITE GET THE RHYTHM DOWN. AND IT'S NOT FEELING, YOU MEAN THE GLASS BEHIND IT OR THE PANELS THEMSELVES? JUST HOW YOU'VE DECIDED OR WHERE YOU'VE DECIDED TO PUNCTURE. OH, OKAY. THE, SO FOR THE WINDOWS, YOU MEAN THE PATTERN THAT GETS THE PATTERN. OKAY. UM, IT'S A SIMPLE HALF TONE PATTERN THAT, I MEAN, THIS IS A PIECE LIKE A, NO, I DON'T MEAN THE PATTERN OF THE ALUMINUM. I MEAN THE PATTERN WITH WHICH YOU'VE ADDED THE WINDOWS. THEY JUST SEE THE OPENINGS. OH, THE OPENINGS, OKAY. THEY'RE GLAZING. SO BASICALLY THERE ARE, THEY ARE, THEY'RE THE PRODUCT OF MAKING THE ROOM, UH, LAYING IT OUT AND MAKING IT FUNCTIONAL. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BASIC YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S NOT QUITE REGULAR. RIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT QUITE IRREGULAR. SO I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT. LIKE, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE SAKE OF, OF DISCUSSION THAT WE, WE CREATE A DIFFERENT COLOR IN THAT, IN THE WALL THAT HAS THE WINDOWS, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE SAY THE SAME COLOR THAN THE MOLDS OF THE WINDOWS, WHERE ANY SOLID WALL WOULD BECOME PART OF A, A THIN STRIP. THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE, THE VERTICALS THAT JOIN, THAT SEEM TO JOIN OR DIVIDE THE WINDOWS, THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONE CONTINUOUS STRIP. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKE MORE SENSE? I DON'T, SARAH, TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WINDOW APERTURES OR THE OR OR THE APERTURE OF THE SCREEN? NO, THE WINDOWS. OKAY. 'CAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE, PLEASE, I JUST WANNA JUMP ON INTO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I FIND THAT, [01:15:01] THAT THERE IS NO RHYTHM WITH, WITH THE FACADE. THE PERFORATION. SO WHAT I SEE HERE IS, IS STANDARDIZED CIRCLE PATTERN ON A, A REGULAR UNDULATING SKIN THAT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT'S MOUNTED TO THE, TO THE SLAB EDGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND HOW IT'S CAPPED OR ANYTHING. I FIND THAT PAGE 12 IS, IS A LITTLE BETTER OF A REPRESENTATION IN MY MIND. UM, WHICH IS LIKE, KIND OF SHOWS ME A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. THE RENDERINGS ARE NOT REALLY PORTRAYING THIS SKIN, WHAT IT IS, IT, THE PRECEDENTS ARE PARKING GARAGES. I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT AND GIVE THIS YEAH. MOVEMENT AND RHYTHM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T SEE A DIFFERENTIATION IN APERTURE SIZE WITHIN THE SKIN SIZES OF THIS. HOLES THAT, THAT ARE IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHERE YOU WANT LIGHT AND VISIBILITY FROM THE INSIDE OF THE OUTSIDE, THAT THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THIS STUDY AT NIGHTTIME, WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. WE HAVE NO VIEWS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT. HOW IS THIS LIT UP? THIS IS A, THIS IS A POWERFUL MATERIAL THAT, AGAIN, THE ONLY PRECEDENT WE SEE IS, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT. IT'S TOTALLY LIT UP. SO YOU WANT VARIATION, PERFORATION SIZE IS, I I I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE, THERE COULD BE RHYTHM HERE. MM-HMM . AND THERE CAN BE MOVEMENT. AND IF THE UNDULATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME ALL THE WAY AROUND AND IT DOESN'T LIKE FLATTEN OUT AROUND AT CERTAIN PLACES, AND THAT COULD BE A COST REASON. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE EIGHT TY TYPOLOGIES. NO, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S MUSIC TO MY EAR, SO THANK YOU. BUT, BUT PER PERFORATION SIZE WOULD START TO GIVE THIS MOVEMENT AND INTEREST LOOK LIKE THE WAVE WITH THE ACTUAL YEAH. I THINK PART OF THE BIG WINDOW OR, OR IS IT A BALCONY? 'CAUSE IN THE COURTYARD VIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S A WINDOW OR A SLIDER THAT GOES IN. IT'S A BALCONY. IT'S A BALCONY. OKAY. SO THERE'S A BALCONY AND A WINDOW BEHIND IT. BUT I, AND SO THE, THE, IT'S NOT A WINDOW BEHIND, IT'S A SLIDER. YES. RIGHT. WE'RE REFERRING TO, SO THESE ARE AKINS IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONCERN TOO IS THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WITH THE, THE IMAGES THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, I, I THINK WHAT, UH, IS, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE'RE GETTING HERE. YEAH. AND I, AND THE PIECE LOOKS LIKE A BEN PIECE OF ALUMINUM THAT WE PUT HOLES IN. IT LOOKS LITTLE, SMELLS A LITTLE SPRAY PANY. LIKE IT'S NOT EXACTLY IT . UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE STANDOFF. I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE A BETTER RENDERING PHOTOREALISTIC. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT AT, AT TWO TIMES OF THE DAY. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING WITH AN EXERCISE OF DIFFERENT PER, THIS IS MAYBE JUST PERSONAL, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT APERTURES SIZE THAT THAT GIVES THE PROJECT MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE MOVEMENT. AND MAYBE EACH SARAH TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT MAYBE EACH OPENING WITHIN WINDOW CUTOUT IS NOT EXACTLY, UH, A TRANSLATION OF WHAT'S BEHIND THE BUILDING, WHICH IS REGULAR. MAYBE YOU CAN PLAY WITH THE SI THE SIZES SO THAT AGAIN, THERE'S, YOU'RE TAKING AN ORGANIC SHAPE AND I UNDERSTAND IAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PUTTING ORTHOGONAL HOLES INTO IT. OKAY. AND YOU, YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO, TO GIVE THIS MOVEMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU CAN ENHANCE THE, THIS PROJECT WILL GET EVEN BETTER. IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY BE HAPPIER WITH THE END PRODUCT. I'M SORRY. BUT , IT, IT'S, AGAIN, THIS IS A, THIS IS A 50% OPENING SKIN THAT WE WOULD U THAT'S THAT REGULATED FOR PARKING, FOR SURE. NOT FOR A HOTEL THAT PEOPLE WANNA BE INSIDE. AND SO WHEN THEY'RE SITTING IN, THEY'RE ONLY SEEING BIG BULLET HOLES, RIGHT. WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE. AND THERE'S GLASS, YOU'RE PAYING FOR GLASS RAILING TOO. AND SO, I DUNNO, THERE'S, I THINK THERE COULD BE ANOTHER EXERCISE. AND I, I THINK WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT LOADING AND I, I DON'T, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA START WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK MY, MY COLLEAGUES HERE HAVE SPOKEN ENOUGH. BUT I, I THINK THE DESIGN AND WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE STUDIES. WE SHOULD LOOK AT PHOTOREALISTIC AND WE SHOULD TAKE A VIEW FROM ACROSS THE STREET AND NOT, NOT THE STRAIGHT ON, UM, UM, AUTOCAD VIEW. UM, AND TWO TIMES A DAY. AND HOW, HOW YOU LIGHT IT REALISTICALLY FROM THE INSIDE. 'CAUSE WHEN IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA JUST GLOW AS ONE BOX, NO. RIGHT? YEAH. SOME LIGHTS WILL BE ON, SOME LIGHTS WILL BE OFF. ARE YOU PUTTING ANY LIGHT FROM, FROM THE EXTERIOR? AND WHAT ARE THE CONNECTION DETAILS GONNA BE? ARE THERE GONNA BE LESS APERTURES AT THOSE HOLES WHEN OKAY. WHEN THE SHOP DRAWINGS ARE. I WOULD ALSO SAY TOO, IF YOUR GOAL WITH THIS SCREEN, WITH THIS WRAP IS TO MAKE THE BUILDING UNIQUE AND TO STAND OUT, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF ADDING MORE OF THE WRAP IS THE ANSWER. YOU KNOW, I'M NOTICING HERE, AND, AND THIS IS THE FIRST IMAGE, UH, OF THE PRESENTATION, THAT THERE IS THIS LITTLE BIT OF AN UNDULATION IN THE FACADE. YEAH. AND I MEAN, TO ADAM'S POINT, MAYBE [01:20:01] THAT MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK DIFFERENT AND ARTISTIC AND, YOU KNOW, BE A GESTURE AND A STATEMENT. BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PLAY WITH THE UNDULATION OF THE FLOOR PLAN. YOU KNOW, IF TO THINK ABOUT IN CONTEXT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP IN THE AREA, BUT THEY ALL HAVE ON, I GUESS UP TO THE MAYBE THIRD STORY, THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF METAL SCREENING OF THE GARAGE. AND I DON'T WANT, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS THIS TO LOOK LIKE A FIVE OR SEVEN, WHATEVER, 10 STORY GARAGE. RIGHT. YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A LUXURY HOTEL. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT MAYBE THAT IS, THAT'S THE THING, YOU KNOW, TO ADAM'S POINT, TO PLAY WITH, PLAY WITH THE FLOOR, THE, THE, THE, IF YOU WANNA EXPRESS UNDULATION, WHICH THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY EVER REALLY NOTICED THAT IT UNDULATES, MAYBE PUSH THAT MORE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, AND MAYBE THE SCREEN IS BLOCKING THAT IT, THERE, THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON. LIKE MAYBE THERE'S TOO MUCH SCREENING AND THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT GESTURE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED TOO IS YOU HAVE THIS VERY SORT OF MIMO INSPIRED CANOPY ON THE ROOFTOP, WHICH I THINK IS A COOL GESTURE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO RELATE TO ANYTHING ELSE IN THE REST OF THE BUILDING. AND MAYBE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAVE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PARTS. UM, YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF THAT TOP PART OF THE, UH, BUILDING THAT WE CAN SEE AND BRING UP? I CAN WE BRING IT UP? YEP. IS THERE, THAT'S HIS SLIDE. THE ROOF DECK, THE ONE IN THE ROOFTOP. IT MIGHT BE IN THE, THERE'S SO LIKE BACK, I THINK YOU JUST PASSED. THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES. DO YOU WANT IT FROM LIKE, I THINK I NO, NO. FROM THE OUTSIDE. FROM THE OUTSIDE, YEAH. NOW YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE IT THERE. YEAH. , YOU GOT THE, I I'M SORRY. YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. YEAH. THERE'S THE BLUE AND THE ORANGE. YEAH. AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED TOWARDS THE UPPER PART OF THE BUILDING, IT WOULD BE THE BLUE. YEAH. TOWARDS THE LOWER PART IT WOULD BE THE EARTH TONE. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN WHY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PEDESTAL YOU HAVE THIS ALL, IT ALL GLASS PEDESTAL. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE REVERSE OF ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE AREA WHERE THE BOTTOM, THE PEDESTAL OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SCREENED IN AND THEN THE UPPER FLOORS ARE MORE GLASS. RIGHT. AND HERE YOU HAVE THAT REVERSE. I ALSO WONDER TOO, AGAIN, FOR THIS COHESION, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO, AGAIN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES AGREE, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE'S A VERY STARK DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BOTTOM PEDESTAL AND THEN THE MAIN AREA WITH ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS. YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOTTOM SEEMS VERY LIKE MIS VAN, REAL MODERNIST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GLASS IN THE MULAN. I MEAN THE, I THINK THE INTENTION WAS THAT THE BOTTOM FLOOR, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S CONNECTED TO AEO AND THE STREETSCAPE, THAT IT BELONGS MORE IN THAT WORLD AND THAT THE BUILDING FLOATS ABOVE THAT. SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF A GESTURE TO GIVE THE LOWER LEVEL TO THE STREET. LIKE THAT WAS REALLY LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE INTENTION BEHIND WHERE WAS THAT THE DIFFERENCE IT'S ON. UM, AND, BUT I, IF THAT'S A DESIRE, WE COULD OBVIOUSLY REINFORCE THAT CONNECTION WITH MORE, WITH, WITH MATERIALS, WITH PLANTING. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, SEE SOMETHING YOU HAVE ON THE BOTTOM ON PAGE 28, I DEFINITELY SEE. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME CONNECTION THERE. UM, AND I LIKE THE FLOATING PART OF IT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS NEAT. I LIKE THAT IT'S DIFFERENT. OTHERWISE IT DOES LOOK LIKE A PARKING LOT. . ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION? NO. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURAL, THE ACTUAL PLAN. OH, CAN YOU BRING THAT UP? YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO QUESTION TOO, I THINK I REMEMBER FROM LAST TIME ABOUT THE COLUMN PLACEMENT. AND AGAIN, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE, THE RENDERING WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TREE, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ALSO COULD BE A COLUMN. DO YOU HAVE ARCHITECTURAL PLAN? I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 28 OF 32, WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FRONT VIEW FROM THE EO AND THERE'S TWO VIEWS OF THE POOL AND THEN TWO VIEWS OF THE NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ONE. NOT ON THOSE, NOT IN THE PRESENTATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY CAN BRING UP? NO, I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE POWERPOINT. I'M SORRY. IS THIS ONE OF THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING? I ASSUME? I THINK MAYBE THE SOUTH SIDE, BACK THE BACK. THAT'S THE BACK. THE FRONT. OKAY. SO YOU SEE, SEE THE BAND, OH, PREVIOUS SLIDE. MM-HMM. UH, THE BAND OF STUCCO DOES THAT, WHICH IS RIGHT BELOW THE POOL. DOES THAT GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING? NO. SO IN THE FRONT, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE ONLINE. RIGHT. IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING BETWEEN, RIGHT. SO THE REASON TOP LEVEL AND THE, RIGHT, SO THE REASON IS THAT YOU HAVE A TERRACE, UH, ROOFED UP THERE. SO YOU HAVE WHERE THE SCREEN ENDS AT THE BACK, YOU HAVE AN [01:25:01] OCCUPIED ROOFTOP THAT THEN TEARS ONTO THE UPPER ONE. SO IN, IN FROM THE BACK PERSPECTIVE, YOU SEE THE BUILDING ACTUALLY COME OUT FROM BEHIND THE SCREEN. IT WAS A WAY OF ALSO GIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK. MM-HMM . THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UM, I'LL, I'LL SAY TOO, WITH THE, THE WRAP AND KIND OF PIG PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID. MM-HMM. UM, I'D BE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BEFORE HAVING THE SAMPLE, I GUESS MY THINKING WAS THAT THE, THE ORANGE COLOR WAS COMING FROM THE STUCCO BEHIND THE, THE WRAP. YEAH. UM, SO I'D BE CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE PLAYING WITH CHANGING THE RELIEF ON WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THESE CUTOUTS, UM, WHAT MAYBE COLORS OF THE STUCCO BEHIND AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE GRADIENT COMES FROM THE WALL AND THERE'S SO MUCH PUNCTURE THAT THE SHADOWS PLAY REALLY NICELY. JUST SOMETHING TO TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH REEVALUATING THAT. UM, I THINK THAT THE NORTH ELEVATION, I, I'M ON YOUR PLANS ON 20, I THINK THAT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE RELIEF. OKAY. IN TERMS OF JUST CUTTING OUT, THAT'S PAGE 20. YEAH. OF THE, OF THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. PAGE 20 OF THE PLANS, NOT OF, OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. PAGE 20. I'D SUGGEST THAT LIKE NOT JUST BE WHERE THE, UM, THE WINDOWS ARE. UM, AND THEN JUST THE LAST THING, I'M SURE YOU'LL, YOU'LL HIT IT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN, BUT THE, THE, I THINK IT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER. TO ME, IT'S NOT A SQUARE AND IT'S NOT A CIRCLE. IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE A LITTLE, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WAY THE RENDERINGS ARE SHOWING. LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT UNDULATION MORE DEFINED, I THINK THAT CORNER COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, OF LOOKING AT, 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE TOO, TOO RIGHT ANGLE TO ME. BUT IT HAS LIKE A SMALL CURVE. I THINK THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH A COMMENT ABOUT ARTICULATING THE YEAH. THE, THE, THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, LIKE GIVING IT BIGGER, A LITTLE MORE OF A COMPOSITION TO IT. UM, BUT OTHERWISE I'M, I, I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THIS LOOKS. I, I'M, I'M, I'M INTERESTED. I JUST THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINEMENT AND THEN MAYBE JUST PLAYING WITH HOW THOSE COLORS COME TO BE. UM, AND SO THIS MATERIAL DOESN'T, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA RUST OR ANYTHING LIKE NO, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S REALLY LIKE A KINDER POWDER COATED THING, WHICH IS MEANT TO LAST A LONG TIME. OKAY. WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY COM I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. WE COULD, THAT COULD TAKE, MIGHT TAKE A, A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF WE COULD COMMISSION AN ACTUAL MOCKUP TO BRING, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SPRING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPRAY PAINT . AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE, THE THING THE POWDER COAT FINISHES IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY YEAH. IT'S A DIFFERENT DURABILITY AND QUALITY AND ALL OF IT, BUT, GOT IT. BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD GET IT. WE COULD DIAL IT INTO THANK YOU. UM, YOU, I FINISHED. YEAH. I'M, I'M LOOKING AT ON PAGE 25 OF, I THINK IT'S THE PRESENTATION, UM, THE, ONE OF THE INSPIRATION PHOTOS THAT YOU ADDED, WHICH WAS THE GARAGE THAT'S IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BRING IT UP. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT IS SO SUCCESSFUL, AND GRANTED THEY DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, TO PUNCTURE FOR WINDOWS, IS THAT IT'S THIS ONE COHESIVE STATEMENT. RIGHT. AND I, I AND, AND I, YEAH. IN THE UPPER CORNER THERE. AND I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE REFINING, BECAUSE NOW THE GESTURES AREN'T AS COHESIVE. AND I PERSONALLY THINK I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU HOW TO DESIGN YOUR BUILDING. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH OF THE SCREENING THAT IT'S GIVING THE HOTEL A BIT MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL LOOK THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE YOU'RE GOING FOR, MAYBE YOU ARE GOING FOR IT, BUT THAT'S THE, I ALSO WOULD SAY TOO, THAT IN LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT OF THE WALL, I GET, IT'S THE SOUTH FACING WALL THAT'S JUST SOLID. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE STORAGE FACILITY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT ONE. SO RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REVIEW IS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ARE ALL OF THE FACADE DESIGNS. I MEAN, AND FOR ME, NOW, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT THIS IS NOT SHOWING IS WHERE THE, UM, THE STORAGE FAC, OH WAIT, CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK UP? OH, YEAH. SO IT'S NOT SHOWING WHERE THE ROOF OF THE STORAGE OF THE, SO FROM WHAT I, FROM WHAT I'M THINKING, SORRY. UM, FROM WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT THE ROOF LINE OF THE STORAGE IS GONNA END, AND ALL YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS BLANK WALL. SO I WOULD, AS PART OF THE APPROVAL, I'D LIKE TO SEE A FINALIZED DESIGN FOR THIS FACADE OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST GONNA READ AS VERY, VERY, AS PRETTY SOLID. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE. WE ALSO HAVE TO JUST TO [01:30:01] CONSIDER ACCOMMODATED. IT IS A, A PARTY WALL. SO WHEN, AND IF THERE'S A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT THERE, IT'S GONNA BE I UNDERSTAND WALL. BUT UNTIL THAT POINT, WHO KNOWS? YEAH. YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE STORAGE UP UNTIL THAT POINT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT THIS GIGANTIC BLANK WALL IN THE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE ARE, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE. SO, I MEAN, AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR SOLUTION OF PAINT IS, IT'S FINE. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ARTISTIC THAT WOULD REALLY, AND I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO MAKE A VERY, MAYBE WE CAN, THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE VERY POSITIVELY TO THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO ELEVATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING, YOU KNOW, A FOUR STORY BLANK WALL. MAYBE WE COULD ACCENT YOU, LIKE, ADD A SECONDARY TEXTURE TO IT BY ACCENTUATING LIKE THE FLOOR PLATE LINES OR, OR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T MIND, I DON'T MIND A PAINTED GRADIENT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING NO, NO, WE UNDERSTAND. IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW. THIS IS ONE OF OUR COMMENTS, I THINK LAST TIME. YEAH. YEAH. WE UNDERSTAND IT WAS BLANKED BEFORE. YEAH. SOMETHING, I THINK THAT AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING, UM, THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING ON THE FACADE THAT THE FACES, WHICH I THINK IT'S NORTH, THE EO, IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? NO, NO, NO. THAT'S PART OF THE SAME. IT'S GOT THE, THAT'S THE LONG FACES, THE LONG, THAT'S THE LONG FACING THING THAT WE'RE GONNA ARTICULATE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PER THE COMMENTS THAT OKAY. YEAH. UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER DESIGN RELATED COMMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS? I'M GETTING THE SENSE, AND EVERYONE CAN CORRECT ME. THIS SEEMS TO BE SOME, A DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE REFINED. YEAH. UM, AND I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE, UM, BECAUSE AT LEAST IN MY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE REFINE, LIKE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CHANGE. A LOT OF CHANGES. YEAH. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD WANTS TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE OR, OR HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MAD CHAIR IF I MIGHT. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE, UM, OTHER ASPECTS. IF POSSIBLE, I'D LIKE TO GET A VOTE ON THE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REHASH ALL THAT, THAT IN JANUARY AND ONLY COME BACK ON DESIGN. OKAY. UM, I, HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA SINCE WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE HERE. OKAY. WE MAY NOT HAVE THEM IN JANUARY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, IS THAT OKAY TO DO ROGELIO? OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A MOTION JUST FOR THE VARIANCE, BUT THEN THE DESIGN WOULD COME BACK. CORRECT? YOU COULD CONTINUE THE, THE DESIGN ASPECT. OKAY. AND IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THAT, THAT PARKING VARIANCE SITUATION. BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, AS A PUBLIC FORUM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK, THERE WON'T BE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST RELATED TO THAT VARIANCE. OOPS. OH, OKAY. SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A MOTION FOR THE DESIGN, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE. IS THAT IT, IT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER THE VARIANCES FIRST AND THEN THE DESIGN, SINCE YOU'RE JUST CONTINUING THE DESIGN. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M DOING THIS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. UM, I MO I WOULD APPROVE VARIANCE TO REMOVE OFF STREET PARKING LOADING REQUIREMENTS. AND ALSO NOW WE'RE THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR ONE ON-STREET LOADING. CORRECT? CORRECT. NOT TWO TO ALLOW ONE ON STREET ON A CLASS B FRONTAGE ON A CLASS. YES. ON A CLASS B FRONTAGE STREET. SO I'LL MAKE THOSE TWO MOTIONS FOR VARIANCES BASED ON ALL WE DISCUSSED. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY MR. DIFFENDERFER. WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, BY MR. LESTER. UM, I'LL, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE. UM, MS. OLI? NO. MR. DIFFENDERFER? YES. MS. GIL NELSON. YES. MR. LESTER? YES. MS. LEWIN? YES. MR. MESH BERG? YES. MR. PAEZ? NO. UH, THE MOTION PASSES. FIVE TO TWO. OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? YEAH. UM, WOULD YOU ALL WANNA COME BACK IN JANUARY OR, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I ASKING. OKAY. , WHAT'S THE DATE ON JANUARY? IN JANUARY 11TH? 11TH IS 11TH. FEBRUARY IT'S THE EIGHTH. AND THEN, OR FEBRUARY 12TH. BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE DESIGNS INTO THE CITY OF AMERICA. NO, WE, WE'LL BE BACK IN FEBRUARY WITH, WITH, WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LOVE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CALL. YEAH. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM US ABOUT WHAT? MOST, MOST DEFINITELY. AND, AND, AND IT'S NOT NO DIRECTION EITHER. THAT'S, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE, WE, WE, WE WELCOME. I WOULD ALSO LIKE, AND I I THINK WE WERE TALKING IF YOU COULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, VERY CLEAR RENDERINGS OF THE ENTIRE [01:35:01] FRONT, THE ENTIRE, ALL OF THE FACADES, UM, AS A 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE SORT OF BOTTOM QUARTER. YEAH. WE NEED TO SEE THE THING AS A WHOLE. THE DETAILS ARE GREAT AS WELL. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT I WAS MISSING. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER REQUESTS FROM ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE PACKET AS WELL AS A DESIGN FOR THAT SOUTH FACING THE SOUTH ELEVATION. UM, SOME SORT OF MURAL ARTISTIC GESTURE. PERFECT. AS PART OF IT, IF IT WERE A MURAL, IT NEEDS, UH, APPROVAL, SOME SORT OF SEPARATE COMMISSION APPROVAL, RIGHT? COMMISSION APPROVAL. YES. CORRECT. YES. ANY MURAL OVER A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET WOULD REQUIRE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. MAYBE SOME CONCEPT IDEAS OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. SOMETHING. AND IF YOU HAVE A CONCEPT, TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS. YEAH. WHAT, WHAT IS CURRENTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING? A STORAGE UNIT. A STORAGE BUILDING. UH, PUBLIC STORAGE. YES. STORAGE. PUBLIC STORAGE. PUBLIC STORAGE. AND WHAT IS THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE STORAGE BUILDING AND YOURSELVES? THAT CURB CUT THAT YOU SEE WITH THE ALLEYWAY THAT BELONGS TO THE STORAGE BUILDING. SO THAT, YEAH. YOU SEE IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE 10, THEY PUT IT BACK 10 FEET. 10 FEET. AND THE STORAGE UNIT IS HOW MANY FEET HIGH VERSUS THIS PROPOSED PROJECT? WHAT IS IT? IT LOOKS ABOUT HALF THE HEIGHT. IT'S, YEAH, THREE STORIES. IT WOULD BE LIKE HALF THE HEIGHT, HALF THE HEIGHT, HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. YEAH. IT'S GONNA BLOCK HALF OF THE THING. OH. YOU KNOW, I THINK, WELL ANY NEW BUILDING WILL BLOCK ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S GOING THERE. SO YOU CAN'T SPEND TOO MUCH. BUT IT, WHO KNOWS HOW LONG IT'LL BE THERE. SO WHO KNOWS HOW LONG IT'LL BE THERE. THERE'S A BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF 41ST. YEAH. LOOK AND MERIDIAN THAT HAS A COMPLETELY BLANK WALL. YOU KNOW, IT WAS BUILT IN, YOU KNOW, 1964 AND THERE'S STILL NOTHING NEXT TO IT. SO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? UM, BUT AT LEAST IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF ARTISTIC GESTURE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY DEFINES DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PAINTED WALL AND A MURAL, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL AND COHESIVE AND UM, MAKES SENSE FOR US TO PROVE. 'CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IS IN OUR PURVIEW SOME SORT. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE REVIEWED, BUT I GUESS MAYBE IT'S BEEN AFTER THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN THEM OR NO, I BELIEVE THEY COME BEFORE TO THE DRB AND THEN THEY GO TO THE STATE COMMISSION AFTER. OKAY. AFTERWARDS. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT MORE WORK FOR YOU, BUT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA GET THIS PASSED IN FEBRUARY OUT IN PUBLIC PLACE. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED. UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE MURAL, NO, NO PART IN PUBLIC PLACES WOULD BE IF IT, IF THEY WANT CITY FUNDING OR THEY WANT THE CITY TO, TO ASSIST IN DOING THIS. OKAY. SO, UM, CAN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION? SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? YEAH. AND JUST ONE OTHER THING I'D SUGGEST IS, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH OTHER ELEVATIONS, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVES OF THE STREET VIEW AND SINCE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WALKABLE PROJECT, IF YOU COULD ENSURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE TOO, ESPECIALLY ON THE EO AND HOW THIS DOES LOOK TO SOMEBODY ON THE STREET. YEAH. OBVIOUSLY. JUST ONE OTHER THING TO ADD. GREAT SUGGESTION. YEAH. WHAT IS, WHAT ARE WE GONNA EXPERIENCE? AND ESPECIALLY WITH A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, YOU KNOW, IS IT GONNA BE, AND I KNOW THIS WAS A CO COMMENT LAST TIME, LIKE IS IT GONNA BE OVERBEARING OR WHAT'S THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE PERSON WALKING DOWN THE STREET, THE PERSON SITTING IN THE CAFE, SOMEBODY COMING DOWN THE POEO AT NOT NECESS? I FEEL LIKE THE EAGLE VIEW IS HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY FOR ARCHITECTS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. VERY GOOD. SO ARE WE MAKING A MOTION YEAH. TO CON CONTINUE? YES. TO FOR TO FEBRUARY. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY FOR THE DESIGN. I'LL SECOND THAT WITH PHOTOREALISTIC RENDERINGS, MOUNTING DETAILS, SAMPLES OF WHAT YOU CAN. AND I WAS JUST, MY LAST SORRY ABOUT THIS, THE LAST COMMENT IS MAYBE NOT A FLAT TOP WITH THE PANEL'S ALL ENDINGS FLAT MAYBE 'CAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER GLASS RAILING, MINE, MAYBE THINGS THERE'S PLAY WITH THE MOVEMENT, RIGHT? YEAH, I AGREE. OKAY. I THINK THERE'S, YOU'VE GOT SOME, YOU'VE GOT SOME GOOD, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT START. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN, SECOND BY MR. MESH BERG TO CONTINUE TO DESIGN TO FEBRUARY. UM, THAT'S THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, WARM ME OUT. MOVING ON, UH, TO DRB 25 11 0 2 12 12 LINCOLN ROAD. OKAY. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE, A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK AS EVERYTHING THIS SAYS? YEAH, FIVE MINUTES. 3, 2, 1. OKAY. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME BACK TO THE DRB MEETING DECEMBER 11TH. [14. DRB25-1102, 1212 Lincoln Road & 1628-1634 Alton Road.] WE ARE CONTINUING WITH NEW APPLICATIONS, BEGINNING [01:40:01] WITH DRB 25 11 0 2 12 12 LINCOLN ROAD, AND 16 28 16 34 ALTON ROAD. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING THIS REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF A NEW ENTRY CANOPY, AND FOUR NEW SIGNS FOR A PROPOSED RESTAURANT WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS AND VARIANCES TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM SIZE AND PROJECTING SIGNS AND FOR PROJECTING SIGNS OF SPECIAL CONDITION REQUIREMENTS TO BE PLACED ON AN EXISTING BUILDING. OKAY, SO THIS IS, UM, AN EXISTING BUILDING. THIS WAS, THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT CONTAINS THE CITIZEN M HOTEL. IT WAS, UH, RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED, UM, ON THE CORNER OF LINCOLN ROAD AND ALTON ROAD. UM, AT THE GROUND FLOOR. THERE WILL BE A FOGGO DE CHOW RESTAURANT THAT WILL BE LOCATING THERE. I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THE INTERIOR IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OF THIS RESTAURANT. UM, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME VARIANCES TO BUILD AN ENTRY CANOPY ALONG LINCOLN ROAD. AND THEN, UH, VARIANCES FOR SIGNAGE THEY WOULD LIKE FOR, FOR SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, LATITUDE IN TERMS OF THEIR SIGNAGE. SO I'LL READ WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC VARIANCES ARE. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS A VARIANCE TO EXCEED BY 12.49 SQUARE FEET, THE MAXIMUM SIZE AREA OF 15 SQUARE FEET FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A PROJECTING SIGN. UM, THIS IS SIGN A LOCATED ON THE PROPOSED CANOPY FACING LINCOLN ROAD. SO THEY'D LIKE FOR THE SIGN ON THE, THE CANOPY SIGN TO BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER. UM, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE TO EXCEED BY 11.57 SQUARE FEET, THE MAXIMUM SIZE AREA OF 15 SQUARE FEET FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A PROJECTING SIGN. UM, THIS IS THE BLADE SIGN, WHICH IS, UH, LOCATED ON LINCOLN ROAD. UH, THE THIRD ONE IS A VARIANCE TO EXCEED BY 11.57 SQUARE FEET, THE MAXIMUM SIZE AREA OF 15 SQUARE FEET FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A PROJECTING SIGN. THIS IS THE BLADE SIGN, UH, LOCATED ON ALTON ROAD. UH, NEXT IS A VARIANCE FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH SECTION 6.2 0.6 OF THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A PROJECTING SIGN. UH, THIS IS FOR THE BLADE SIGN LOCATED ON LINCOLN ROAD. UM, I BELIEVE SPECIFICALLY THEY'RE NOT USING REVERSE CHANNEL LETTERS AND THEY'RE USING, UM, CHANNEL LETTERS. UM, AND THEN, UH, FIVE IS A VARIANCE FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH SECTION 6.2 0.6 SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A PROJECTING SIGN, BLADE SIGN D ONE LOCATED ON ALTON ROAD. SO THESE ARE, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, THE APPROVAL OF VARIANCES ONE, FOUR AND FIVE. HOWEVER, WE DO RECOMMEND THE DENIAL OF VARIANCES TWO AND THREE RELATED TO THE SIZE OF THE BLADE SIGNS FRONTING LINCOLN ROAD AND ALTON ROAD. UM, STAFF FEELS THAT THE SIGNS AS, AS AUTHORIZED ARE LARGE ENOUGH. THE SIGNS HAVE TWO FACES. SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY, BY APPROVING THAT VARIANCE, YOU'RE APPROVING AN INCREASE IN SIZE FOR ESSENTIALLY FOUR SIGNS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VISIBLE FROM EACH DIRECTION. UM, AND, AND STAFF FEELS THAT THOSE, THOSE, UH, INCREASES ARE NOT NOT APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR THE LOCATION. UM, STAFF IS, IS HAS NO OTHER NO CONCERNS WITH THE OTHER SIGNS. UM, THE IDEA OF USING REVERSE CHANNEL LETTERS, GIVEN THAT THE, THE FACADE IS A GLASS FACADE SYSTEM. UM, THE, THE, THE REVERSE CHANNEL LETTERS ARE LIT FROM THE REAR. THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY LOOK, UM, GREAT WITH THE GLASS FACADE. SO A CHANNEL LETTER WHERE THE LIGHT IS INSIDE OF THE LETTER ITSELF, UM, IS MORE APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE ARCHITECTURE OF, OF THE BUILDING. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THE, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE ONLINE. THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME IN PERSON. UM, SO, UM, IF, UM, SO I STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE DESIGN OF THE ENTRY CANOPY AND THE VARIANCES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE TWO THAT I INDICATED. UM, AND IF I TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE REMOTE. UM, SO ANY DIS ANY DISCLOSURES BEFORE THEY PRESENT? NO. OKAY. NOPE. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE JOE MUELLER. YES, I'M HERE. HI JOE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. THANKS. UM, SO, UH, WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED, UM, WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, I, I THINK IN MOST CASES HERE, UH, ESPECIALLY, UM, WITH THE CONDITION ABOUT HOW THE SIGNS WERE BUILT AND THE LIGHTING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THE HALO LIGHTING JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE ON A BUILDING LIKE THIS. AND HALO LIGHTING REQUIRES SOMETHING LIGHT AND SOLID BEHIND THE, THE SIGN IN ORDER FOR THE LIGHT TO REFLECT. SO IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT BLACK BACKGROUNDS OR DARK OR GLASS AND, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, UM, IN THIS DISCUSSION. SO IF I MAY, UH, JUST SORT OF RECAP, UM, WE ARE SEEKING FIVE SEPARATE VARIANCES. UH, THIS IS A NEW RESTAURANT SPACE THAT FRONTS BOTH LINCOLN ROAD AND ALTON ROAD. [01:45:01] UM, SO RATHER THAN APPLY THE ABSOLUTE MAX SIGN ALLOWANCE ON WHAT WOULD BE WALL SIGNS, FOGA DE CHOW IS TRYING TO STRIKE A BALANCE RELATING TO THE ARCHITECTURE, THE SURROUNDINGS, WHILE ADDRESSING BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND AUTOMOTIVE SITE LINES. ROUGHLY SPEAKING, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PROPOSED SIGN SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE STANDARD ALLOWANCES FOR WALL SIGNS ALONE. BUT FOGO TO CHOW WANTED TO BE STRATEGIC AND HOW WE USE THE SIGNS AND THE PLACEMENT WHILE WORKING WITHIN THE CHALLENGING CONFINES OF A PRIMARILY GLASS BUILDING. SO FOR SIGN A THE ENTRY SIGN, IT'S ACTUALLY BEING CONSIDERED A PROJECTING SIGN. AND MOST MUNICIPALITIES IS BE CONSIDERED A WALL SIGN, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ON A PROJECTING FEATURE, A LITTLE BUILDING POP OUT, UH, IT WAS LIMITED TO A SMALLER SIZE SIGN. SO IF WE LOOK AT SIGN B, THAT'S ON ALTON ROAD, THAT'S A WALL SIGN. IT'S ACTUALLY WELL UNDER WHAT THE ALLOWED CODE IS. THE SIGN A SIMPLY MIMICS THAT, BUT IT'S ON THIS POP-OUT FEATURE FOR VARIANCE TWO, THIS IS FOR THE BLADE SIGN THAT'S ON ALTON ROAD. WE'VE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL SIGN AREA BECAUSE THE LETTER HEIGHTS BY THEMSELVES WITH THIS BACKGROUND, THEY'RE NINE AND A HALF FOR THE LARGER LETTERS AND ONLY SIX AND A QUARTER FOR THE SMALLER LETTERS. SO VARIANCE TWO IS FOR A LARGER BLADE SIGN THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED. WE'RE PROPOSING 26 AND A HALF SQUARE FEET VERSUS THE 14 THAT'S ALLOWED, THAT'S ALSO THE SAME OF VARIANCE NUMBER FOUR. THEN I KNOW I'M SKIPPING AROUND A BIT, BUT VARIANCE THREE AND FIVE AGAIN, JUST COME BACK TO THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS OF HOW THE SIGN IS BUILT. AND I FEEL THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT AS WELL AS, UH, STAFF HAS. SO WITH THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO OFFER, UH, ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY, THANK YOU. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO PUT UP, I GUESS YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT A PRESENTATION, BUT AT LEAST IMAGES OF WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED? YES. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY TO SHARE SCREEN SOMEHOW HERE. NO, WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, WHAT I CAN TRY TO DO IS SEND THE PLANS TO PJ, UM, LET ME DO THAT. OKAY. IT'S UP. OH, PERFECT, THANK YOU. SO, OH, IT JUST, I CAN'T SEE IT. THAT'S FUNNY. WHEN I SPEAK THE SCREEN DISAPPEARS. . SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN NOW, UM, THAT IS SIGN A THAT WAS ON THAT PORTAL AND THEN SIGN B THAT WOULD BE ON THE OPPOSITE ELEVATION IS THE EXACT SAME SIZE. THE DIFFERENCE IS IT'S ACTUALLY ON THAT BLACK BAND THAT YOU SEE ON THE BUILDING. WHEREAS HERE WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE SOME EVIDENCE, UH, OF AN ENTRY FEATURE AND AN OTHERWISE, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAIN SURFACE GLASS BUILDING. AND THEN THE BLADE SIGN IS ONE OF THE SIGNS OF THE TWO SIGNS THAT YOU SEE TO THE LEFT. THAT'S D TWO. IS IT POSSIBLE TO FORWARD THAT THROUGH? YEAH, IT, YOU CAN NOTE THE, THE PAGE NUMBER, THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT ONE UP. THIS IS JUST SO THAT YOU, THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL SET THAT YOU SUBMITTED, UM, THAT WE HAVE ON FILE. YEAH. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE SIGN EXHIBIT? I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS PART OF OUR SUBMITTAL. MAYBE GO TO PAGE 12. YEAH. IS THAT HELPFUL FOR YOU JOE? UH, WELL, THAT, THAT STARTS AS STILL THE PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL SET. THERE, THERE WAS A WHOLE SIGN EXHIBIT, I THINK IT'S, YOU SUBMITTED DIFFERENT FILES. UM, THERE IS ONE CALLED VARIANCE DIAGRAM PLANS MAYBE THAT, I DON'T [01:50:01] KNOW IF PJ CAN LOCATE THAT ONE. THAT'S IT. HMM. PERFECT. SO THOSE ARE THE SIGNAGE ELEVATIONS AND WHAT WE SHOWED HERE, THE TOP ELEVATION IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BY THE VARIANCE. THE LOWER ELEVATION ON THAT SHEET WOULD SHOW THE BLADE SIGNS AS IF THEY WERE SCALED DOWN PER WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY CODE. AND YOU COULD PROBABLY FLIP FORWARD TO THE NEXT ELEVATION. THERE WE GO. SO THERE'S OUR OTHER STREET THAT FACES ALTON ROAD, AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE SIGN B NOW IS JUST ON THAT BLACK BEND. THAT'S ACTUALLY ALMOST HALF OF WHAT CODE ALLOWS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST WHAT FIT THE SPACE. RIGHT. UM, BUT WE WERE HOPING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH THE BLADE SIGNS. AND AGAIN, THE ELEVATION ABOVE IS SHOWING THE LARGER BLADE SIGNS THAT WE'RE PRO PROPOSING FOR THE VARIANCE. THE LOWER ONE IS WHAT WOULD BE CODE COMPLIANT. SO, AND THIS SHOWS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE CALCULATIONS OF THE SIGN. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING. THE SIGN AREA IS ACTUALLY EVEN LESS, BUT WE TOOK THE FULL GENEROSITY OF INCLUDING THE LITTLE ACCENT MARK ABOVE THE A SO IN REALITY, IF WE WERE TO COUNT, OR I SHOULD SAY EXCLUDE ALL THE DEAD SPACE, THE SIGN AREA WOULD BE EVEN LESS. AND I'M SORRY, SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION. SO BASED, YEAH, BASED ON THAT, THE, THE DIAGRAM THAT, THAT WE JUST SHOWED ARE, ARE YOU PROPOSING SIX SIGNS OR, OR FOUR? ONLY FOUR. AND THEN, SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS, THE SCHEMATIC? SORRY. SO D ONE AND D TWO. OH, THAT'S AROUND THE CORNER. D TWO. YES. OKAY. SO, SO THAT'S BEYOND LOOKING DOWN THE STREET ON D TWO. RIGHT. AND THEN D ONE WOULD JUST BE THE END VIEW ALTON ROAD. SO, SO THERE'S BASICALLY TWO SIGNS. A, UH, UM, TWO ON LINCOLN ROAD AND TWO ON ALTON ROAD, ONE ON CORRECT. EACH SIDE IS A BLADE SIGN, ONE ON EACH SIDE IS A BLADE SIGN, AND THEN ONE ON EACH SIDE IS A SIGN, UH, PARALLEL WITH THE WALL. RIGHT. OKAY. DOES THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? UH, NO. JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO YOU HAD SAID IN THE REASON WHY YOU, YOU DID NOT WANNA, YOU RECOMMENDED TO NOT APPROVE VARIANCE TWO AND THREE WAS THAT THERE WAS ALREADY SO MANY SIGNS AND IT WAS EXCESSIVE. ARE YOU AGAINST THERE BEING BLADE SIGNS AT ALL, OR YOU JUST DIDN'T LIKE THAT THEY WERE, HE THEY WANTED THEM TO BE LARGER. IT, THE ISSUE WAS THAT THEY WERE LARGER, SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT THOSE SIGNS AT 15 SQUARE FEET. MM-HMM. UM, WHICH STAFF FELT WAS SUFFICIENT. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GO TO 26.5 SQUARE FEET ALMOST. UM, WHICH, WHICH WE FELT WAS, WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE LARGE FOR THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, BUT EVEN WITH VARIANCE TWO AND THREE, THEY STILL REMAIN WITH FOUR SIGNS. IT'S JUST TWO OF THEM WOULD BE MUCH LARGER ALMOST. RIGHT. DOUBLE IN SIZE. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, AND THE ISSUE, THE BLADE SIGNS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONLY ONE SIGN, IT DOES HAVE TWO FACES. RIGHT. SO IT'S, SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE HAVING TWO. RIGHT. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? UM, THERE IS NOBODY. OH, WE, WE DO HAVE MATT. MATT, ARE YOU THERE? MATT, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. HI MATT. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. SO, HI, I'M MATT WELLS. I'M THE VICE P PRESIDENT OF CONSTRUCTION FOR FOGO CHOW. UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS. I THINK, UM, MAYBE MORE JUST A, A COUPLE [01:55:01] OF COMMENTS IN LINE WITH WHAT JOE HAD POINTED OUT. UM, I THINK OUR INTENTION HERE, UM, WAS TO, UH, U UTILIZE SIGNAGE IN A WAY THAT'S TASTEFUL ON THE BUILDING. UM, BUT ALSO, UH, ADDRESS THE, THE SCALE, UH, THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. UM, WE ARE, WE ARE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, BUT WE ARE, UH, AT, AT A GLANCE IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AS, AS YOU STARE AT THE BUILDING NOW, UM, WE ARE PART OF A, A, A LARGER BUILDING. SO, UM, TRY NOT TO GET LOST IN THE MIX AS FAR AS WHERE, WHAT DELINEATES OUR SPACES IS KIND OF THE INTENTION, BUT STAYING TASTEFUL, UM, I, I WOULD, I, I WOULD, UH, POINT OUT AGAIN AND, AND ASK FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE SIZES THAT WE'RE USING. UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE, IT, IT'S, I I GUESS FOR ME, THE, THE, UH, THE CALL OUT WOULD STILL BE THAT WE, IF WE WERE USING NOTHING BUT WALL SIGNS, WE WOULD BE WELL UNDER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST CHOOSING A DIFFERENT METHOD TO DO IT JUST BASED ON THE ARCHITECTURE, UH, THE, THE TRA THE WAY THE TRAFFIC KIND OF ACTS WITH THE, THE SITE. UM, ALTON'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG, BIG BUSY THOROUGHFARE, SO JUST TRYING NOT TO GET MISSED AS, AS, UH, AS THE CARS BUZZ BY. UM, I, I THINK THE, THE BLACK BACKGROUNDS AGAINST WHAT'S, WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY A MIRRORED BUILDING, UH, WAS JUST ALSO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE, UH, CONSIDERED IN THE DESIGN AND, AND, AND ARE REQUESTING THE, THE LARGER SIGN FOR. I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, ON PAPER, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY LOOK A CERTAIN SIZE, BUT I THINK IN, IN ACTUALITY DRIVING DOWN THE STREET. UM, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSED BEFORE A TURN HITS. IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK TO KINDA CIRCLE THE BLOCK, TURN AROUND IN OUR BUSINESS RESTAURANT BUSINESS. UM, I, I, WE CATCHING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, , IF, IF, UH, IF, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S AN INCONVENIENCE OF ANY, ANY KIND, UM, AND IN THIS EXAMPLE I'M USING, KIND OF BUZZING BY OUR SITE. UM, AND, AND, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE IS, IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AND, AND PARKING AND EVERYTHING. ONCE YOU'VE KIND OF BUZZED BY THIS SITE, UM, YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MIND IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE TOO HARD TO TURN BACK AROUND IF WE'RE NOT SEEN. UM, SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, THAT WE CONSIDERED. UM, IT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE, THE USE OF THE SIGNS, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING. , IF WE WERE, WE WERE GOING ANYWHERE ELSE, WE, WE MIGHT'VE JUST GONE WITH WALL SIGNS. UM, BUT, BUT JUST A BUNCH OF THINGS TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THIS IS, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS LOCATION. UH, IT, IT'S GOT ITS UNIQUENESS. UM, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, UM, IT, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'VE COME TO THE DESIGN AS IT AS IT STANDS TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? THERE ARE NO OTHER HANDS RAISED. OKAY, GREAT. THERE'S A HAND THERE. OH, PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. I'M HERE ON ANOTHER MATTER, BUT I LIVE AT 1800 SUNSET HARBOR DRIVE. MY NAME IS FRANK KKI. ARE, ARE WHAT MATTER? ARE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, MURANO PROJECT? YOU UM, I'M NOT SPEAKING. I'M NOT, I'M JUST HERE. AND YOU WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR THAT PROJECT LATER? YES. OKAY. UM, I MEAN, NO, NOW WE'RE TAKING COMMENTS REGARDING THE SIGNAGE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WANNA SPEAK ABOUT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING THIS PROJECT. OH, YOU WERE HERE FOR THAT. BUT YOU HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND. GOT IT, SIR. SORRY. WERE, WERE YOU SWORN IN THIS MORNING? NO. NO. OKAY. UH, COULD WE ASK YOU AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS NOT SWORN IN THIS MORNING, WHO'S GOING TO BE TESTIFYING TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SO AGAIN, UM, MY NAME IS FRANK KKI. I LIVE AT 1800 SUNSET HARBOR DRIVE, WHICH IS VERY PROXIMATE TO THIS LOCATION. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE SIGNAGE. THAT INTERSECTION IS SIGNAGE CLUTTER. THERE IS ALREADY SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON ALL DIFFERENT SIDES AND FACADES. THIS IS A WELL-KNOWN ESTABLISHMENT. IT'S NOT LIKE A NEW ENTITY FOR THIS CITY. THERE WAS AL THERE IS ONE LOCATION, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S STILL OPEN, SOUTH OF FIFTH. THEY'RE MOVING TO THIS SITE. THIS SITE ALREADY HAS SIGN CLUTTER ALL OVER IT. SO I AM SPEAKING TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THESE SIGNS. I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT ABOUT ALTON ROAD FLYING BY, BUT ON LINCOLN ROAD, YOU'RE NOT FLYING BY, YOU'RE JUST DRIVING OR YOU'RE WALKING. SO THE SIGNAGE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR, I THINK IN, IN GENERAL, HAVING FOUR SIGNS ON ONE ESTABLISHMENT I THINK IS OVERKILL. BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE, OF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR [02:00:01] YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY, I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. DOES ANYBODY WANNA BEGIN? OKAY, SCOTT? YEAH, I HAVE. SO MY FAMILY WAS IN ASSIGNED BUSINESS FOR LIKE 50 YEARS, SO I'M REALLY AT REALLY ATTUNED TO THIS. UM, I WANTED THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS REPRESENTING FOG DECIA. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUZZ BY THAT LOCATION. IT'S GRIDLOCK ALL THE TIME, 24 7. SECOND OF ALL, UM, AGAIN, WAY FINDING, YOU'RE NOT ON THE TURNPIKE LOOKING FOR A CHIPOTLE. UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO TO THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S THERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ZIP BY AND DECIDE, OH, WE MISSED IT. WE BETTER GO TO THE NEXT STEAKHOUSE ON ALTON ROAD. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. SO I AM WITH STAFF. I THANK YOU FOR BEING REALISTIC ABOUT IT AND BEING, UM, BUT FRANK IS RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF CLUTTER THERE ALREADY. AND I THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT WAY FINDING ON THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU, IRA. YEAH. UH, ROGELIO, I RECALL THAT WHEN MACALUSO, ANOTHER RESTAURANT WAS OFF OF ALTON RIGHT BEFORE, UM, THE DAY BOULEVARD BRIDGE, UM, AND DAY BOULEVARD CANAL ON THAT LITTLE STRIP MALL, THEY WERE SIGHTED BECAUSE THEY HAD A SIGN IN THE FRONT WINDOW, UM, WHICH WAS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. AT LEAST NOT ALTON. AND THEY HAD A SIGN ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, UH, STANDUP SIGN ON, ALTON. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THEY WERE STATIC 'CAUSE THEY HAD TWO, TWO SIGNS. DOES THE CODE ALLOW FOR THE FOUR SIGNS BEING THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND ONE SIGN ON EACH PHASE, ONE ON LINCOLN, ONE ON ALTON, BUT DOES IT ALLOW THE CODE AS IT EXISTS TODAY TO HAVE TWO ON ALTON AND TWO ON LINCOLN? YES, IT DOES. AS LONG AS THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO SIGNS DOESN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON THE, OKAY. BASED ON THE LENGTH OF THE FACADE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN CONSIDERATION WITH THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AS THE GENTLEMAN, UM, THE CONTRACTOR WAS, UH, REFERRING TO, UM, IT IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER SIGNS IN THAT AREA AS FAR AS SIZE WITHOUT APPROVING THE ADDITIONAL SIZE VARIANCE? YES. TWO AND THREE. MM-HMM . YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE, THE, I GUESS THE NEXT BEST EXAMPLE WOULD BE A FEW BLOCKS UP. THE, THE MARSHALLS BUILDING HAS SIGNS OF SIMILAR SIZE. UM, NOT, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. ROSS. ROSS. OKAY. ROSS, I APOLOGIZE. UM, UH, ABOUT THE MOVIE, SIMILAR SIDE MOVIE THEATER DOESN'T, I DON'T RECALL THE MOVIE THEATER HAS A BLADE SIGN ON THE SIDE. I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVED A VARIANCE FOR, FOR THAT BLADE SIGN BECAUSE IT DOES IT EXCEED AND IT ONLY HAS ONE BLADE. UM, I DON'T, I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY ONE AT THE CORNER. YES. YEAH. BUT IF THESE, IF THESE HAD BEEN TOO DIFFERENT, IF THERE WAS ONE, IF, IF THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN BROKEN UP AND THERE WAS ONE BUSINESS FACING ALTON AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER BUSINESS FACING LINCOLN, YOU'D STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE FOUR, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . THERE'D BE FOUR SIGNS. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT THIS HAS BEEN LEASED TO ONE ENTITY THAT'S TAKING UP THE WHOLE PROPERTY. RIGHT. UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, UNLIKE THE MOVIE THEATER, THE SIGN IS BIG BECAUSE THE ENTIRE BUILDING IS THAT ONE PURPOSE. IN THIS CASE, THE RESTAURANT IS JUST THE LOWER FLOOR OF THE BUILDING. UM, I AGREE WITH STAFF ABOUT WHAT VARIANCE IS TO APPROVE, WHAT VARIANCE IS NOT TO APPROVE. I ALSO LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE SIGN HAVE A NOD TO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING IN WHICH THE RESTAURANT IS IN, AND TO MAKE IT MORE MODERN AND SQUARE. I THINK THAT WOULD LOOK REALLY NICE. AND I DO AGREE WITH SCOTT THAT THE, THESE ARE GONNA STAND OUT. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE BLADE SIGNS ARE MORE FOR PEDESTRIANS AS OPPOSED TO CARS THAT DRIVING BY DRIVING BY THAT THE SIGNS THAT ARE AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING ARE VERY LARGE. AND THOSE ARE, YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I MEAN, I'M SAME. UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO NOT APPROVE TWO AND THREES IS FINE HERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE OTHER BLADE SIGNS ON LINCOLN AND ON ALTON, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER, SO THIS IS GONNA BE IN SCALE WITH THAT. UM, AND YEAH, I LIKE THE ARCHED ENTRYWAY SIGN AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S VERY TASTEFUL, UM, FOR THE BUILDING AND, UH, THE, THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO, YEAH. THAT'S IT. YEAH. DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE VARIANCE ONE, FOUR, AND FIVE FOR, UM, THE PROJECT DRB HOLD ON. DRB 25 DASH 1102 AT 1200 1212 LINCOLN ROAD AND 16 28, 16 34 ALTON ROAD. OKAY. DO, DO WE NEED TO BREAK UP EACH VARIANCE VISUALLY OR NO, IT'S FINE. WE CAN DO IT AS A GROUP. MM-HMM . OKAY. I'LL SECOND. [02:05:01] OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES. UM, WE SHOULD APPROVE A, A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THE DESIGN BECAUSE THEY, THE, UM, THE CANOPY IS AFFECTING THE DESIGN AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REQUIRE YEAH. APPROVAL. SO DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AND IS THAT WHERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY ELSE FEELS ABOUT THE, THE STAFF COMMENT TO MAKE THE SIGN MORE RECTANGULAR AS OPPOSED TO ROUNDED, BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE DESIGN MM-HMM . ORDER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OPINIONS ON THAT. I READ THAT TOO. THE, THE OTHER THING WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING IS JUST A SQUARE GLASS THING. YEAH. SO TOO MANY SIGNS ON IT ARE COMPLETELY ANATHEMA TO THE DESIGN OF THE WHOLE BUILDING. SO YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE TO THAT, YEAH. CONDITION. AND THE SIGN WENT ABOVE THE SLAB OF, OH, THE SLAB WENT, THE SIGN WENT ABOVE THE SLAB OF THE SECOND FLOOR AND IT WAS 11 FEET TALL. I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT. THAT, THAT SEEMS EXCESSIVE. YEAH. OKAY. SO, LAURA, DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? SURE. OKAY. FOR THE DESIGN, I'LL, I'LL APPROVE THE DESIGN. UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT, UM, THEY TAKE INTO, THEY TAKE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CURB THE BLADE SIGNS. IS THAT, NO, IT WAS, WHERE IS IT TO MAKE IT MORE RECTANGULAR? I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. SORRY. THAT, THAT'S ONLY FOR THE BLADE SIGNS. PAGE EIGHT. UM, YES. UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE THE BLADE SIGNS RECTANGULAR AS WRITTEN. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, SIR? A SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN. WE HAVE A SECOND. I HEARD MR. LESTER OR MS. LESTER. OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. AND THEN DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE OTHER, ON VARIANCES TWO AND THREE? UM, DO THEY NEED A MOTION TO DENY THE TWO VARIANCES? MY READ OF THE FIRST MOTION WAS THAT THE OTHER TWO VARIANCES WERE DENIED. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, MOVING ON [15. DRB25-1119, 775 81st Street.] TO DRB 25 1 1 1 9 7 75 80 FIRST STREET. OKAY. THIS ONE, THE PRINTED COPY OF THE STAFF REPORTS FOR, FOR SOME REASON WASN'T INCLUDED IN, IN YOUR PACKET. SO WE JUST HANDED OUT COPIES OF IT. UM, BUT IT WAS ONLINE AND IT WOULD'VE WAS IN THE, IN THE EMAIL. SO THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR NEW FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. OKAY. SO THIS IS A, UM, A, A, A SINGLE LOT IN THE ARM, ONE DISTRICT IN NORTH BEACH. IT'S A 5,625 SQUARE FOOT LOT. IT'S AN INTERIOR PARCEL LOCATED WITHIN THE BIG BISCAYNE BEACH SUBDIVISION OF NORTH BEACH. UM, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FOUR STORY BUILDING. THE BUILDING CONTAINS SEVEN UNITS OF, UH, MULTIFAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN IT HAS GROUND FLOOR PARKING. UM, THE AREA IN THE VICINITY, UM, IS ZONED ARM ONE. SO THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS EX THAT IS EXPECTED FROM THAT DISTRICT. UM, IT, HOWEVER, THE AREA IN THE, THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY CONTAINS ONE AND TWO STORY BUILDINGS FROM THE 1940S AND 1950S. UH, BUT WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN, IN DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. UM, FROM THE SEVEN UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED, THERE'S, UH, FOUR ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND THREE TWO BEDROOM UNITS. THE GROUND FLOOR HAS FIVE PARKING SPACES IN AN UN ENCLOSED LOBBY. UM, THAT'S ACCESSED FROM, UH, AN ENCLOSED STAIR VESTIBULE IN AN ELEVATOR BANK. THE SITE, GIVEN THE DIMENSIONS, UM, IT'S LESS THAN, UM, I BELIEVE 65 FEET. SO THE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE PARKING. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING, UH, FIVE PARKING SPACES. UM, IN ADDITION, THEY'RE PROVIDING, UM, UH, BICYCLE PARKING, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS. UM, THE BUILDING, UM, IS A RECTAL LINEAR SHAPE CONSISTING OF PROJECTING SOFFITS AND BALCONIES, UM, ALTERNATING STUCCO WALLS AND GLASS RAILINGS ON THE FRONT. AND, UH, REAR ELEVATIONS. UM, IT'S MOSTLY FINISHED IN, UH, WHITE, SMOOTH WHITE STUCCO. UM, HOWEVER, THE, UH, THE ARCHITECT THAT HAS INCORPORATED SOME COLOR ARCHITECTURAL, UH, STUCCO, UH, ARCHITECTURAL ACCENTS AND, AND VARIOUS ELEMENTS, UM, ALONG THE FACADE THAT GIVE IT, UH, AN INTERESTING, UH, PROVIDE SOME INTERESTING LOOK TO THE, UH, TO THE ARCHITECTURE. UH, THE STREET FACING FACADE, UH, FEATURES A STAIR TOWER THAT IS WRAPPED WITH A WHITE PERFORATED WITH WHITE PERFORATED METAL PANELS. UM, THE SAME METAL PANELING IS A APPRO IS APPLIED TO THE GARAGE AND RESIDENT ENTRANCES. UM, AND ON THE OUTDOOR ROOFTOP AT THE FOURTH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, THE APPLICANT [02:10:01] HAS PROPOSED A WHITE STEEL PERGOLA STRUCTURE ON THE, ON THE UPPER FLOOR TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE. UM, AND THE, THERE'S A COMMUNAL POLE DECK UP THERE AS WELL. UM, THE, UH, THE DESIGN IS A, IS, IS A CONTEMPORARY STAFF, IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A WAIVER OF THE MINIMUM, UM, GROUND FLOOR CLEARANCE OF 12 FEET. UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT CLEARANCE TO 10 FEET ON THE GROUND LEVEL. UH, THE GROUND LEVEL ONLY CONTAINS, UM, AN ENTRANCE VESTIBULE AND THE PARKING. SO THERE IS ROOM IF THE STREETS ARE EVER RAISED IN THIS AREA, UM, FOR THE, FOR, FOR THERE TO BE SUFFICIENT CLEARANCE FOR ALL OF THESE USES TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND FUNCTION APPROPRIATELY. SO STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THE, OF THE WAIVER, GIVEN THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVE USES ON THE GROUND LEVEL. UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. I HAVE YOU, IT'S, UH, 10 FEET, 10 INCHES, RIGHT? YES. YES. THE WAIVER, UH, OH, I APOLOGIZE. 10 FEET, 10 INCHES. YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT. THANK YOU. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. UH, MY NAME IS JAN NARO, UH, FROM RED OCTOPUS, JULIAN AGARITA. UH, WE'RE PART OF THE DESIGN TEAM FOR, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT. UH, RO ALREADY EXPLAINS VERY WELL, LIKE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT. IT'S A SMALL BUILDING, ONLY SEVEN UNITS. WE PRESENTED SIMILAR PROJECTS BEFORE WITH, UH, SIMILARLY OUT. UM, UH, THE DEVELOPERS ARE THE SAME AS, UH, IN PREVIOUS PROJECTS. UM, THE SMALL DIFFERENCES HERE, UM, REGARDING, UH, TO THE LAYOUT IS THAT WE ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, DRIVEWAY TO, UH, TO, TO MAINTAIN THE ON STREET PARKING THAT IS ALREADY EXISTING. SO, TO, TO PRESERVE THAT, WE ADJUST A LITTLE BIT, THE, THE ENTRANCE AND WE'RE FITTING, UH, FIVE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. UM, LET SEE, THIS IS THE, THE FRAN FACADE. UM, REGARDING TO THE SAME DEVELOPERS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO, UH, KEEP THE SAME STYLE AS THE PREVIOUS, UH, PROJECTS TO HAVE SOME, UH, IDENTITY OF THEIR OWN. AND, UH, CONSIDERING THAT IN THAT AREA, THE NEIGHBORS WERE REQUESTING TO RESPECT THE IDENTITY OF, OF, OF, OF THAT AREA IS THAT WE, UM, TRY TO MODERNIZE SOME, UH, UH, VINTAGE TOUCH PATTERNS AND PASTORAL COLORS TO RESPECT THAT IDENTITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, CREATING, UH, A MODERN SHAPE. UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, CHANGE, UH, THE, THE COLORS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT IT KIND OF HAS, UH, THE SAME, UM, PERSONALITY. AND WHAT SHARE THE SAMPLES THERE IS, UH, WE HAVE A FEW SAMPLES OF THE, WHAT WE'RE COVERING, THE STAIR, THE, THE STAIR IN THE FRONT IS WITH, UH, LASER CUT METAL PANELS. THE IDEA IS TO MAKE THEM, UH, IN WHITE, BUT THAT'S THE MATERIAL. THAT'S A COMPANY THAT ALREADY WORK IN THIS AREA. AND THEN, OH, SORRY. SO THE, THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S THE DESIGN, THE, THE PERFORATED, UH, THAT'S NOT THE, THE PATTERN THAT'S THE MATERIAL. OKAY. I THINK, UH, IS IT, YOU CAN SEE LIKE PROBABLY IN THE RENDERER, THE, THE PATTERN THAT WE'RE CHOOSING IS MORE, UM, ARE THEY CALLED, WE WILL SAY MORE TYPICAL. UM, AND THERE IS THIS, UM, THIS ORANGE, LIKE LIGHT ORANGE, UH, COLOR THAT, UH, PINK AND, AND BLUE, LIGHT BLUE, UH, THAT METAL PA PANELS WILL BE COVERING THE STAIRS AND THE ENTRANCE AND THE, UM, AREA RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED IS THAT, UH, GARAGE DOOR, THE, THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAY APPROACH. AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY, THERE'S THE GARAGE DOOR. SO THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE. IT'S, UH, IT, IT WILL HAVE THE, THE GATE FOR THE GARAGE. AND NEXT TO IT, IT'S A DOOR AND A PEDESTRIAN DOOR. THAT WILL BE THE, THE IMAGE OF THE SIDE ELEVATION WHERE, UH, TRYING TO, UH, CREATE CORRELATION, UH, AROUND THE BUILDING WITH THE SAME, UH, UH, PALLET OF, OF PAINT AND . UH, WE COVER THE CORRIDORS WITH, UM, UH, TENSION, [02:15:01] UH, CABLES THAT, UH, THE IDEA IS NATURALLY GROW SOME VY, NOT SUPER DENSE, MORE LIGHT. AND WHAT'S ON THE WALL OF THAT CORRIDOR? UH, IT'S LIKE, LIKE, UH, IT'S IN, IN A, I'M GONNA FIND THAT THE IMAGE. SO YOU HAVE THE REFERENCE, IT'S LIKE A TENSION, UH, OKAY. LIKE, LIKE WIRES MM-HMM . VERTICAL WIRES. AND, AND IN THE, UM, SECOND LEVEL, THERE IS THIS, UH, THIS TERRACE THAT WE CAN CREATE LANDSCAPE TO MAKE IT GROW NATURALLY NON ARTIFICIAL LANDSCAPE. SO THE TENSION WIRES END UP BEING THE THIRD FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR SECOND, UH, AND THIRD AND THIRD. OKAY. THAT, THAT YOU CAN SEE THE PATTERN OF THE, OF THE LASER CUT PANELS FOR THE FACADE, THE FRONT FACADE, TRYING TO FIND THE, OR THE ISOMETRIC. YOU, YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE GEOMETRY. THAT WILL BE THE REAL FACADE, MORE SIMPLE, BUT STILL REMAINING THE, THE COLORS AND THE OTHER SIDE. AND THE TRELLIS ON, ON, ON THE ROOF, UH, WILL BE THE, LIKE, METAL WHITE, UH, MATCHING THE, THE FRONT. OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. EXCELLENT. UM, IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE. OKAY. EXCELLENT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? I CAN BEGIN. THANK YOU. UM, SO THANK YOU. I, UM, I, I KNEW THIS WAS YOU ALL BEFORE , I EVEN SAW WHO IT WAS. UM, I, I THINK THE DESIGN OVERALL IS, IS GREAT. IT'S, YOU ALL HAVE DEFINITELY A STYLE AND, UM, AND MAYBE WORKING WITH ITS DEVELOPER, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S VERY FITTING FOR THE AREA. SO, UM, I'M LARGELY IN, YOU KNOW, IN SUPPORT OF IT. A FEW VERY MINOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UM, THAT I MAKE, UM, IS I'M LOOKING AT THE WEST ELEVATION, UM, WHICH IS THE ALL WHITE ELEVATION. YOU KNOW, PERHAPS INTEGRATING A POP OF COLOR SOMEWHERE IN THERE COULD BE, UM, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LOT. UM, BUT JUST LIKE HOW YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE EAST, YOU JUST DID A LITTLE PINK. AND I THINK THAT THAT JUST KIND OF ADDED SOMETHING. UM, SO IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION TO THINK ABOUT. UM, AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS, IS REALLY JUST THE FRONT YARD LANDSCAPING. UM, IT FEELS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT, IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINEMENT. IT ALMOST JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT ONE TREE WAS JUST LIKE PLOPPED THERE. AND THEN IT'S A SWATH OF A VERY, UM, LIKE SHORT, SHALLOW GROUND COVER. SO PERHAPS JUST PLAYING WITH, UM, HEIGHT THERE, MAYBE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING, SOME HIGHER SHRUBS. UM, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SUGGESTION. UM, BUT OTHERWISE A GREAT PROJECT. I LOVE THE GREAT, I LOVE THIS COVER. UH, GREAT. UH, WELL, THE, THE, THE LANDSCAPE, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE. SO I, WE, WE CAN WORK ON THAT PERFECTLY. YEAH, NOTHING MAJOR. I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT COULD IT, I JUST, THE BUILDING IS SO BEAUTIFUL. I, I DON'T WANT LIKE THAT TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT. A AND, UM, SO JUST KIND OF WORKING, WORKING ON HOW THAT PLAYS WITH THE BUILDING. A HUNDRED PERCENT. THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION FOR ME. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AGREE. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT WAS MY OWN, LIKE, I WAS SO HAPPY WITH THIS DESIGN. I THINK EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT FITTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I LOVE THE SCREEN MIMICS BREEZE BLOCK. I THINK YOU USED THE EXACT AMOUNT YOU SHOULD HAVE. THE STAIRS ARE GREAT. I LOVED IT. THANK YOU. A LITTLE MORE TROPICAL. I THINK LANDSCAPING. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD, BUT I MEAN, I HATE TO EVEN SAY THAT. IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL, SO I'M REALLY, YEAH, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT. YOU'RE RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ANY THOUGHTS? UM, I JUST HAVE TWO [02:20:01] THINGS. IS THE, THE PERFORATED METAL GONNA BEND ON THE CORNER LIKE THAT IN THAT RADIUS? MM-HMM . AND LIKE IN THE STAIR, LIKE YES. NOT, NOT COMPLETELY COVERING THE STAIR. JUST, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT CORNER, YOU'LL KEEP THAT AND PRESERVED. IT WON'T BE A 90 DEGREE CORNER. YOU'LL BEND IT LIKE THAT. UM, THE WAY YOU'RE REPRESENTING IT. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S STRONGER IN THE CORNER AND WE JUST CONFIRM WITH THE SUPPLIER THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY CAN JUST BLEND THAT VERSION AND THEY JUST CAN FOLLOW OUR PATTERN TO FOLLOW THE DESIGN BECAUSE THIS IS LASER CUT. SO THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO, TO DO THAT. GREAT. UM, MY LAST COMMENT IS NOT COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE, BUT IS IT, IS THE PERSON ON THE TOP FLOOR HAVE TO WALK UNDER THE PERGOLA AND GET WET TO GET TO THEIR UNIT? YES. , BUT IT'S A, A MATTER OF THE FAR WE'RE VERY LIMITED WITH THE, WITH THE AREAS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COVER. SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EXTEND OUT FIVE FEET RIGHT THERE JUST TO HAVE SOME RAIN COVER TO GET UMBRELLA ? YEAH. NO, I CAN'T, I CAN'T. SORRY. I NOTICED THAT. I CAN'T CHANGE THAT, I DON'T THINK, UM, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE FLOOR PLAN HERE. YOU WALK, WALK ACROSS THERE, YEAH. YOU CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, RIGHT? LIKE PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY EXTRA ROOM FOR, FOR ANOTHER ROOF, BUT OTHERWISE, I DO THINK THE DESIGN IS REALLY NICE AND, AND YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. OKAY. SORRY. UNFORTUNATELY. REALLY? YEAH. SO WE DID OUR VESSELS AND NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, ARE THE ONES THAT REGION THE PROJECT. YEAH. THE RAIN'S PROBABLY GONNA GO THROUGH THE PERGOLA ANYWAY, SO , RIGHT? NO, I WAS LIKE, IT'S LIKE UNRELENTING RAIN. THEY CAN, THEY CAN'T HAVE LIKE A, A HARD TOP RIGHT THERE. OH. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT A PIECE OF CANVAS OR SOMETHING. SO I JUST WAS LIKE, IT WAS LIKE TWO DAYS AGO WHEN IT WAS RAINING, I'M LIKE, OKAY, EVERY TIME THE PERSON GETS OUTTA THE ELEVATOR AS LIKE A 25 FOOT WALK, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE SOME, UH, I KNOW THIS ISN'T WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING, BUT YEAH. FABRIC MM-HMM . I MEAN, IT CAN BE FABRIC OR STUPID. YEAH. I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT. WE'RE ALLOWED, MAYBE WE CAN ADD THOSE ELEVATOR, ELEVATOR, BUT IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE COVERED. I FIGURED THAT'S FAR YEAH. YEAH. BUT FABRIC, WE LIMITED FABRIC, EVEN IF IT, EVEN IF IT'S A WALKWAY, BUT IT COULD BE A FAB, SOME SORT OF CANVAS FABRIC. YOU COULD HAVE A CANVAS THAT WOULDN'T COUNT TOWARDS FAR. OKAY. THIS NOT MAKING ALUMINUM. YEAH. RETRACTABLE, RETRACTABLE ALUMINUM FABRIC. EITHER WAY, WE'RE IN FLORIDA, WE'RE ALL USED TO GATEWAY, . NO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA, EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE TO COVER THAT. EXCELLENT. IS THAT DONE? UM, I, I AGREE. I, I LOVE, I I, I LOVE THESE DESIGN. I ALSO LOVE THE IDEA, AS YOU'RE SAYING, WITH THE PERSONALITY THAT BUILDINGS WITH THIS PERSONALITY ARE GONNA BE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT NORTH BEACH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT GESTURE. AND, UM, YEAH, I WAS ALSO WONDERING TOO ON THAT, ON THE FACADE THAT LORI MENTIONED THAT IT SEEMED THERE WASN'T ANYTHING, AND I DON'T KNOW, I DO LOVE THAT YOU EXTENDED, I GUESS IT'S THE, THE, UM, THE BASE FOR THE, THE, UM, BALCONIES, HOW YOU EXTENDED IT IN A LITTLE BIT ONTO THOSE SIDES TO ALMOST MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN EYEBROW. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY NICE GESTURE. UM, SO YEAH, IF, IF YOU COULD, IF THERE COULD BE SOMETHING, IF NOT, IT'S STILL A BEAUTIFUL FACADE. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE SCREENING. UM, BECAUSE YOU PROVIDED US WITH A LOT OF MATERIAL, IT SEEMS, AT LEAST FROM THE RENDERINGS, BUT ALSO, AND I'M LOOKING ON PAGE 30 OF THE PRESENTATION, WHAT IS ON THE RENDERING VERSUS WHAT IS ON THAT POP OUT? SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST ME. UM, THE, THE IN LARGE OF THE PATTERN. YEAH. ON PAGE, IT'S ON PAGE 30. OH, WAIT, GO BACK. YEAH, THAT WELL, LIKE THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT MAY BE IT'S, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE JUST THE, THE THIN LINES. YEAH. BUT IT'S, IT'S THE IDEA OF THE PATTERN THOUGH. IT'S GONNA BE, UM, THE, THE CONCEPT. THE CONCEPT, UH, IS BASED ON THE RIGHT AND THE RIGHT IMAGE THAT IS GONNA GIVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MORE DECOR IDEA OF THOSE ELEMENTS. AND IN THE RENDER IS JUST A REPRESENTATION THAT THE RENDER IS JUST DO THE BEST. OKAY. JUST TO MIMIC WHAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE. SO, BUT WE EXPECT THAT THE LASER CUT, UH, COMPANY IS GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE REFERENCE THAT WE ARE GONNA GET TO THEM. I SEE. SO YOU'RE GONNA SIGN THAT AS OPPOSED TO, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, NO, THIS IS JUST EXAMPLES I'M ABLE TO DO. I SEE MM-HMM . SO HERE WAS MY ONE. AND AGAIN, OVERALL, [02:25:01] YOU KNOW, GREAT JOB. UM, THE FRONT FACADE TO ME SEEMS A LITTLE BIT BUSY. AND I'M WONDERING IF, AND IT WAS, I DIDN'T CATCH IT AT FIRST, BUT YOU HAVE THE SCREENING ON THE GARAGE, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GONNA BE RETRACTABLE AND GO UP MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE'S A SCREENING ON THE STAIRWELL, AND THEN THE, THE DOOR ALSO HAS THE SCREENING. AND I'M WONDERING IF, IF THAT WAS JUST CLEAR GLASS OR SOMETHING, AGAIN, IT, IT MIGHT MAKE IT SEEM A LITTLE BIT LESS BUSY, BUT ALSO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO THE APARTMENT IS. WELL, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE, IT'S, UM, FRAMED WITH THE, WITH THE LIGHT BLUE ROOF. UM, AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A GLASS DOOR IS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE PARKING, THAT IT'S NOT THERE YET. ALSO, ALSO THE FIRE, A FIRE REQUEST. SO DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT, WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME CONDITION THAT THE, DUE TO THE ASSEMBLY AND THE EXIT THAT WE HAVING IN THIS SECTION, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, GLASS. SO IF WE HAVE GLASS, WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RATED. YEAH. WE RATED, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I GONNA ASK FOR MORE SPECIFICATIONS TO THE, TO THE GLASS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE EVACUATION OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO, IT'S SO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, IT'S NOT ENCLOSED. IT'S, IT'S THE NO, IT'S OPEN. IT'S OPEN. MM, I SEE. SO YOU WANT THE AIR TO COME THROUGH. EXACTLY. SO YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT THAT THE FRONT FACADE, LIKE, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, BIT BUSY. AND I'M WONDERING IF THE PATTERN OF THE SCREEN, WELL, IT CAN, IT CAN BE EN LARGE DIFFERENT YEAH. TO BE MORE OPEN, FOR EXAMPLE. AND AGAIN, LIKE, IT'S NOT REALLY A VERY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD REALLY CALL THAT ART DECO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR. UM, BUT THAT WAS JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER PEOPLE, I MEAN, THERE WERE SOME OTHER PANELS, YOU KNOW, ON HERE THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE WERE MORE SORT OF MID-CENTURY ART DECOY. I DON'T KNOW HOW BASIC, BASICALLY YOU PROVIDE THE, THE PATTERN AND THEY JUST, UH, DO IT, PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM AND, AND CUT IT THE WAY YOU WANT IT. IT'S THE, WHAT THEY HAVE THERE IS BASICALLY THE, THE LIKE BASIC SUGGESTIONS THEY HAVE, BUT IT'S OPEN TO, TO DIFFERENT PARTNERS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO BECAUSE OF THE FIRE CODE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, OPENINGS. UM, IT CANNOT BE A SOLID GLASS DOOR, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO OPENED BECAUSE THEN IT HAS VISIBILITY TO ALL THE CARS AND, AND THE, AND THE INSIDE. MM-HMM . OKAY. YES, EXACTLY. YEAH. THE, THE, THE PARKING SPACES ARE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NEXT TO THE ENTRANCE. LIKE, I DUNNO, DOES ANYBODY ON THE, DO YOU THINK THE PATTERN, DO YOU THINK THE FRONT FACADE IS TOO BUSY? LIKE, IS THERE TOO MUCH SCREENING? BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON? I THINK ONCE YOU ADD MORE LANDSCAPING, IT MAY BUFFER SOME OF THAT BUSYNESS OR TAKE AWAY. I AGREE. FROM THE BUSYNESS. IT'S NOT TOO MUCH. YEAH. IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALMOST JUST LIKE, IT'S FLAT AND THEN WE HAVE THIS BUS, THIS BUILDING. I THINK IF YOU, THE LEVELS OF THE LANDSCAPING KIND OF LIKE GRADUALLY BRING US TO THAT BUILDING. I, I, I, I LIKE IT. AND I, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE SCALE OF THE, THE, UM, OF THE BALANCE THE WAY THEY ARE. MM-HMM. BUT IT'S JUST ME. WAIT, SECOND FOUR BALCONY BEING WITH GLASS THAT THE SECOND FOUR BALCONY WITH GLASS THAT MAKE IT TOO YORK. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE THE SORTS OF THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT OF LIKE, THIS SEEMS A LITTLE BUSY TO ME, WHAT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY. YEAH. AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S MORE THE SCREENING SCREEN. YEAH. BECAUSE I DO, I LIKE THE PINK. I, I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT PINK. I WAY I LIKE THE PINK. AND I THINK IT DOES DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING THE BUILDING STAND OUT. UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH THE, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE PATTERN OF THE SCREENING, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, IS THIS THIS PATTERN YOU'RE GONNA, THAT'S WHY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT PATTERN IS BEING USED. UM, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF NOBODY ELSE THINKS IT'S BUSY, THAT YOU KNOW. YEAH. IS THERE A REASON WHY THE SCREEN WASN'T TAKEN FURTHER PAST THE STAIRWAY? TO, TO THE, TO THE RIGHT. TO THE RIGHT. YEAH. UM, IT TO, TO CREATE THE, THE VOLUME AND, AND, UM, YEAH. IT'S PART OF LIKE, UH, COVERING INSTEAD OF, UH, ADDING MORE GAR, UH, REGULAR GUARD RAIL IN THE STAIRS TO HAVE, LIKE THIS, IT'S A, IT'S A DESIGN THING. IT'S A COMPETITION. WE WOULDN'T WANT IT TO GO OVER THE, THE STAIRWELL ITSELF TOO, LIKE COVERING THE STAIRWELL, WOULD THAT BE TOO MUCH? UH, LIKE WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO MAKE IT TOO, UH, INVASIVE IN THE FACADE. UH, BUT IT, WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE JUST, UH, ONE, ONE, UH, ONE FLAT, UM, ELEMENT AROUND THE [02:30:01] CORNER. YEAH. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. TO MAKE THAT EFFECT IN THE CORNER. YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, THE BUILDING IS ROUNDING THOUGH. IT'S NOT JUST GOING ONE PHASE, IT'S JUST PART OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING OFF THIS CATALOG. YEAH. LIKE, THERE'S CERTAIN PATTERNS THAT I THINK WOULD BE MORE, WOULD GO MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT BUSY AND GO A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HAPPY TO POINT OUT TO YOU WHEN WE'RE DONE. YEAH. DO A HUNDRED PERCENT MM-HMM . UM, YEAH. AND BE MORE, I GUESS SORT OF MORE MIMO APPROPRIATE. LIKE I KNOW YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONTEXT SINCE REFERRING SINK, SOME OTHER, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE BUILDING SUCCESSFUL. SO, AND THEN, YEAH. ANYWAY, JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I THINK YOUR DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL BEFORE YOU DO THAT. I THINK LIKE THE WRAPAROUND, UM, THAT, UM, LESTER WAS, UH, DISCUSSING. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. OH, THIS, OH, SORRY, SORRY. NO, NO. I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, SO GENERALLY LET'S TALK, WE'D MENTIONED THAT THE PINK, MY ONE QUESTION TOO WAS, OH, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. THE, THE VINE MM-HMM . MM-HMM . DETAIL THAT YOU HAD. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED, HAVE THEY BEEN BUILT YET, OR NOT YET? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL DOING. OKAY. THAT ONE DIDN'T START ONLY, ONLY THE FIRST ONE. THE CONSTRUCTION? YEAH. NO, THE CONSTRUCTION. THE CONSTRUCTION ONLY THE, THE, THE FIRST ONE. UM, OKAY. NOT THAT ONE. UM, AND THEN THE PAINT COLORS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO DO JUST PROCEDURALLY IS TO SORT OF LOCK IN THE, THE PAINT COLORS THAT ARE GONNA BE USED AS PART OF THE ORDER. UM, IT SEEMED LIKE FROM THE PRESENTATION, YOU HADN'T PICKED OUT THE EXACT ONES YET. THE, THE, THE NUMBER, THE COLOR NUMBER. YES. OKAY. SO I WAS JUST GONNA ADD TO WHATEVER, UM, WE APPROVE TO HAVE THAT BE A CONDITION THAT YOU WORK WITH STAFF AND THAT THE COLORS, THE ULTIMATE COLORS THAT ARE CHOSEN ARE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO WHAT IS BEING SEEN. SO TO, TO CHOOSE THE FINAL COLORS WITH STAFF. CORRECT. AND I ALSO THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THE ORDER THAT THE, SO MUCH OF THIS BUILDING SUCCESS IS THE USE OF COLOR, THE STRATEGIC USE OF COLOR. YOU KNOW, I'D, I'D LIKE TO, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THE ORDER THAT IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE COLORED? LIKE I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOME YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THIS BUILDING BE SOLD AND THEN SOMEBODY JUST PAINTS IT ALL WHITE AND THEN YOU LOSE THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. CAN, IF THE COLORS ARE, YOUR CONDITION ON THE COLORS WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE COLORS BE MAINTAINED SO THAT IF, UH, SOMEBODY EVER DID DECIDE TO PAINT IT WHITE, UM, THEY, THE CITY COULD ISSUE A VIOLATION AND FORCE THEM TO PAINT IT THE COLOR THAT WAS APPROVED DO IT ALL. OKAY. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, LET'S SAY 30 YEARS FROM NOW, UM, THE COLORS IN THE AREA DIFFER AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO IT INSTEAD OF THE SAGE WITH THE YELLOW AND THE PINK, THEY WANNA DO IT, THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD BLUE WITH UH MM-HMM . COME BACK BLUE WITH THIS. AND THAT SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY DID THAT WITH ANOTHER PROJECT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY DO THAT WITH ALL THE, IS IT NECESSARY TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OR CAN THE CONDITION INCLUDE THAT IT BE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES IN COMMON PERMIT? YOU COULD, YOU COULD. IT, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD HOW THEY WANT TO APPROVE THAT CONDITION. THEY CAN GIVE US A, I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN REQUIRE A PERMIT NOW FOR PAINTING. SO I MEAN, TO HAVE THEM COME BACK, IT IS A BIG EXPENSE IN TIME AND IN COST, UM, TO COME TO THIS BOARD. SO KNOW. SO HOW ABOUT HOW IT, AS A COMPROMISE, INSTEAD OF SAYING IT HAS TO BE THESE SPECIFIC COLORS, IT WOULD BE THAT THE AREAS THAT ARE INDICATED AS BEING PAINTED, REMAIN PAINTED. THE THE COLORED AREAS. YEAH. THEY REMAIN COLORED. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS EXACT PALETTE. YEAH. BUT THAT HAVING THAT BE, YOU KNOW, OR, AND WITH APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE 'CAUSE THEY COULD GO BACK AND JUST PAINT A PAGE. WELL, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE DRB AS OPPOSED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S A DESIGN CHOICE, NOT, YEAH. BUT IT, TO COME TO, LIKE I MENTIONED, TO COME TO DRB ON COLOR OF THREE AREAS IS AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION FOR A BUILDING IN COST AND IN TIME. AND WE DON'T EVEN REQUIRE PAINT PERMITS ANYMORE. SO THAT'S WHY I AM SAYING IF THEY, LET'S SAY, DECIDE TO CHANGE THE COLOR SCHEME IN THE FUTURE, 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT THOSE AREAS REMAIN COLORED A, A COLOR PALETTE, BUT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YEAH. BUT IF WE MAKE THE ORDER FLEXIBLE ENOUGH, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT ALL. I'M SAYING DON'T MAKE IT SO FLEXIBLE. LET 'EM HAVE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T COME BACK. THAT THEY KEEP IT IN A DIFFERENT COLOR, BUT MAYBE THEY MAKE IT ALL BEIGE. AND WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD THAT BE? I DON'T THINK THAT, I GUESS TO ME THAT WOULDN'T BE NICE. WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THAT YOU WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE DESIGN EXPERTS [02:35:01] TO WEIGH IN ON A DESIGN ISSUE. YEAH. ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN EXPENSE. YEAH. BUT I THINK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE SOME, UM, EXPERTS, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN WE HAVE ON OUR BOARD RIGHT NOW. BUT SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. . I MEAN, , I MEAN, WE HAVE HOW MANY ARCHITECTS HERE? SO WE ALL HAVE DESIGN, UH, IDEAS. BUT I THINK THE PLAN, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, UM, ROGELIO FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE ANY CHANGES IN, IN COLOR? NO. WE HAVE, WE HAVE APPROVED COLOR PALETTES IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE USE. YEAH. UM, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, USE ONE OF THE COLORS APPROVED IN OUR COLOR PALETTE, OR IF THEY WANTED TO USE SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK TO THE DESIGN. THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD REGARDLESS. UM, EVEN WITHOUT THE CONDITION. MM-HMM . BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO BE INVOLVED, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPERTS IN THIS AREA OF DESIGN, YOU'RE ASKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A BAD MOVE. NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. I JUST THINK THAT TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR THOSE THREE COLORS, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. NOT JUST BECAUSE OF COST OF TIME AND MONEY, BUT I, I THINK THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS AS THEY'VE ALWAYS APPROVED THE COLOR PALETTES FOR MIAMI BEACH. UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW FOR THEM. NOW IF THEY COME OUT OF THAT COLOR PALETTE AND GO INTO SOME OTHER COLORS THAT PROBABLY WOULD REQUIRE, I WOULD ASSUME ROGELIO TO COME BACK TO DRB. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IF THEY STAY WITHIN THE COLOR PALETTE, THEN IT SHOULD BE FINE IF THEY EVEN CHANGE IT AT ALL. HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T, BUT I KNOW YOU MAY NOT BE AROUND IN 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IT'S A REALITY. YEAH. UH, DOES ANY THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? I HAVE THOUGHTS ON THE, ON THE METAL. I'M TRYING TO SWAY AWAY FROM THIS, THE COLORS. YOU SAID THERE WAS A PREVIOUS DESIGN, SIMILAR DESIGN THAT WAS APPROVED OF A BUILDING BY THIS FIRM BEFORE. YES. UM, BUT DID IT, I DON'T REMEMBER IT HAD, DID IT HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THE IMAGE HERE. I BELIEVE IT DID. UM, MY, MY MY, WHAT I WAS GONNA GET AT WAS, IS THERE A WAY TO SAY THAT IF THE SHOP DRAWING OF THE METAL AND THE BACKER AND EVERYTHING IS, IS A BIG DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, THAT, THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW IT OR SEND IT BACK TO US BECAUSE IT, IT MIGHT NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS. THAT'S MY CONCERN. TO PROTECT IT FROM NOT LOOKING, UH, HAVING SOLID, SOLID, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THAT PATTERN, YOU THINK IT'S NOT GONNA, I WANT MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THAT METAL'S THIN AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR EVERYTHING. AND IT MAY NEED A FRAME AND, AND, AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUPPORTS. AND FOR A GARAGE DOOR, IT, IT MAY LOOK, IT'S, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL JUST BEING REALISTIC ABOUT IT TO, TO KEEP IT REAL. YEAH. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. THIS IS NOT THE IDEA. I LIKE TO KEEP MY DESIGN , YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT LIKE THIS. I'M, THIS IS MORE FOR, FOR YOU GUYS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A BUNCH OF BANDS GOING THROUGH IT, RIGHT. IF, IF IT ENDS UP THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME SECTIONS THAT ARE SOLID AND SOME SECTIONS THAT ARE OPEN BECAUSE YEAH, IT'S VERY THIN THE LINES ON THE, ON WHAT YOU SUBMITTED, YOUR CONCEPT LINES. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS TOO, WHY I THOUGHT THAT THE PATTERN OF THE SCREEN SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS PATTERN WOULD BE WITH THE REST OF THE CONCEPT. THAT, THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. UM, DO, DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PATTERN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I LIKE, I DON'T, I CAN YOU JUST THINK IT NO, I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE PUT ON A RENDERING AND WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT GETS BUILT. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE LEASE PANEL LETS YOU PRESENT THE PATTERN THAT YOU WANT AND CUSTOMIZE. YEAH. THEY'LL DRAW IT AND, AND REV IT AND IT'LL BE WHAT? IT'LL, IT'LL BE, BUT IT, THE IDEA IT'LL A MINIMAL, MINIMAL, MINIMAL TOLERANCE OF THE THICKNESS OF METAL FOR IN ORDER TO BE A, FOR THEM FALL APART AND BEND. UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT THICKNESS OF MM-HMM. OF PANELS. YEAH. USUALLY WHEN WE APPROVE, IT'S, IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S THE EXAMPLE OF THE PROVIDER. BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT WITH, UH, YEAH. SO ACTUALLY IN IS THE, IN, SORRY, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I GAVE YOU, THERE IS SOME NOTES THAT I, WE ASKED, SO WE JUST, JUST CLARIFY WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PERSON, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW GONNA BE THE THICKNESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PANEL THERE IS GONNA BE FIVE FEET, LIKE TWO FEET. SO THIS IS GONNA, IS NOT THE FIRST PROJECT THAT I DO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH THIS, UH, UM, LAYER ON THE FADA. SO THEY NORMALLY WORK WITH THAT. SO I'M BEHIND THAT LAYER. THAT IS A [02:40:01] STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO SUPPORT THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THE LAYER. SO I THINK THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION DETAIL FOR SURE. THERE IS NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE. AND THEY HAVE, UH, OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE WORKING WITH THESE SIMILAR PATTERNS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, WITH DIFFERENT DESIGN, BUT THE SAME MATERIAL THAT IS, UH, THEY'RE NOT HAVING ANY ISSUE WITH THIS. OKAY. THIS IS THE THICKNESS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING OR THINKING OF? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE THICKNESS. THAT WAS THE SAMPLE THAT WAS JUST BRING TO US JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MATERIAL. SO WOULD BE THICKER PROBABLY TO WITHSTAND THE, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S IN THE, IN THE ALGO THERE IS THE, THE THICKNESS ON THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE PANEL. YEAH. WELL, I THINK IT'S, I MEAN FOR ME, AND DO BEFORE THIS GETS PERMITTED, DO, IS IT REVIEWED BY STAFF TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS YES. YES. AND WE, WE HAVE CONDITIONS REQUIRING THE FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF, OF THE MATERIALS. UM, AND THAT THEY PROVIDE SAMPLES AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING MM-HMM . ONCE IT'S MORE DEVELOPED. UM, AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF WHAT HAPPENS AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. OKAY. AND IF, AND IF IT VARIES, IF THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS PATTERN AND THIS IS WHAT WE APPROVE, AND IF ONCE, IF THERE'S A, AN ACTUAL SAMPLE CONSTRUCTED, IT VARIES GREATLY BY DEFAULT. DO YOU BRING IT BACK FOR US TO, FOR THE DATA? WE WOULD, WE WOULD TELL. WELL, WE WOULDN'T APPROVE IT. YEAH. WE WOULD TELL 'EM EITHER CHANGE IT TO WHAT WAS APPROVED OR YOU CAN REQUEST A MODIFICATION FROM THE OR IF THEY SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE MANUFACTURER SAID THAT, THAT THE SPECS THAT THEY SUBMITTED WASN'T, COULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T WITHSTAND THAT THEY HAD TO CHANGE IT. CORRECT. OKAY. AND, AND AS IT GOES TO PLANNING, IT ALSO GOES TO PLANNING LANDSCAPING, WHICH WILL REVIEW ALL THE LANDSCAPING. AND IT PROBABLY, BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT, IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE RENOVATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE DAY COUNTY, UH, CODE CHAPTER. MM-HMM . 1918 OR 81 18. OKAY. WE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT THE FINAL COLOR, UH, THE FINAL COLOR DESIGN AND DETAILS OF THE METAL PANEL SCREENING PROPOSED FOR THE STAIRWELL TOWER, FOR THE STAIR TOWER AND THE GARAGE AND RESIDENT ENTRANCES ON THE FRONT SOUTH ELEVATION SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF, CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CRITERIA AND OR THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. UM, SO WE CAN ADD IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE SOME MORE CLARITY TO THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN AMEND THAT CONDITION AND, AND, AND MAKE IT MORE, UH, RIGID IF YOU LIKE. OR, OR IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S A CONDITION IN OUR DRAFT ORDER. DOES THAT I TRUST HIM. OKAY. . OKAY, GOOD. UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROJECT DRB 25 DASH 11 19 7 75 80 FIRST STREET, AND THE WAIVER, UM, REQUESTED OF A FOOT AND TWO INCHES, UH, FOR THE CLEARANCE, UM, TO THE, OF THE GARAGE AREA. AND I'D LIKE TO ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT THE AREAS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS PAINTED, REMAIN PAINTED, THOUGH THE PALLET IS UNSPECIFIED. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, I THINK A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO, TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE LANDSCAPING A BIT MORE. YES. TO MAKE IT MORE TROPICAL. YEAH. MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION, ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? NO. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MOVED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. VO WITH, OH, UM, WILL THE MAKER OF THE MOTION ACCEPT THOSE TWO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS? YES. AND THE SECONDER? YES. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NOPE. MOTION PASSES. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. UM, DOES ANYBODY WANT, SHOULD WE TAKE A OKAY HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY, NEXT UP IS D [16. DRB25-1122, 5900 Collins Avenue.] RRB 25 11 22 5900 COLLINS AVENUE. AND I BELIEVE AFTER THIS ONE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING A LUNCH BREAK. OKAY. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR THE RENOVATION OF A WATER FOUNTAIN LOCATED ON THE, ON THE FRONT SITE OF THIS BUILDING. AND SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT OF FINISHED MATERIALS. OKAY. SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS FOR THE EXISTING 23 STORY GRAND [02:45:01] VIEW CON CONDOMINIUM LOCATED ON COLLINS AVENUE. UM, THE, THE BUILDING CURRENTLY HAS A WATER FEATURE, UM, ON THE FRONT. AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO, UH, REMODEL THAT, THAT, UH, WATER FEATURE TO MAKE IT MORE MODERN, BRING IN MORE MODERN, UH, CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS. UM, CURRENTLY THE, THE EXISTING WATER FOUNTAIN IS COMPOSED OF AN EWA, UM, UM, THAT, UH, HAS A BASIN WITH TALL SIDE WALLS THAT STEP BACK TO THE MAIN ELEVATION OF THE WATER FEATURE. UM, IT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL LOW WALLS STEPPING UP, FORMING A, A BASE, UM, WHICH CREATES THE ENTRANCE TO THE CONDOMINIUM. UM, SO THE RENOVATION INCLUDES THE REMOVAL OF EXISTING TURQUOISE COLORED SQUARE TILES THAT LINE THE BASIN AND THE MAIN FOUNTAIN FEATURE WALLS, UM, AND THE DEMOLITION OF A GLASS BLOCK STRUCTURE THAT'S, THAT'S WITHIN THE FOUNTAIN. UM, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO USE, UM, UM, NEW BLOCKS, UH, WITH NEW NATURAL STONE, GRANITE COLORED TILES AND FINISH THE WATER BASIN WITH DI DIAMOND BRIGHT TO MATCH THE COLOR OF THE STONE TILE. UM, THE, THE FOUNTAIN, UH, STAFF AGREES THAT THE FOUNTAIN LOOKS MUCH IMPROVED FROM THE, FROM THE CURRENT FOUNTAIN THAT'S IN PLACE. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. YES. GOOD, GOOD MORNING OR ALMOST LUNCHTIME . OKAY. UH, I'M THE OWNER, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUILDING. I'M XAVIER CAM. I'M HERE WITH JERRY SHERIFF, WHO IS MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND, AND OWNER ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY ON THE BUILDING. AND WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARCHITECTS WHO IS HERE WITH ME. I UNDERSTAND. UH, BASICALLY IT'S A FOUNTAIN AS A, UH, MR. MADAN SAYS, UH, WITH TIES, WE DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING ABOUT THE FORM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A RETILING, BY THE WAY. AND THEY HAVE A GLASS BLOCK IN VERY, VERY BAD CONDITION. THEY NEED TO BE REDONE ANYHOW. THEY HAVE WATER PENETRATION. IT'S, UH, 40 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE BOARD DECIDE THE OWNERS TO GO TO, TO REMOVE THE GLASS BLOCK AND JUST REPLACE, TO DO EVERYTHING WITH THE, WITH THE SAME TILES. IT'S NOT THE TILES. IT'S A, IT'S A STONE. I BRING SOME, UH, AT YOUR REQUEST, UH, UH, SOME SAMPLES. UH, WE WILL DO THAT ON THE WALLS, ON THE VER ON THE VERTICALS, AND ON THE HORIZONTAL, UH, BECAUSE IT'S WATER, UH, WE, WE DO, UM, HOW YOU CALL THAT, UH, UM, A DEMON, RIGHT? SAME COLOR, EXACTLY SAME COLOR TO MATCH THAT. AND, UH, UH, I BRING FOR YOU, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU DESIRE, I BRING SOME, SOME, SOME PICTURE. YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THE, IN THE, THE FILE. THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE REAL SIZE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE TIME. YOU KNOW THIS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT WANT, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HAVE TO TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE, . SORRY. UM, BUT YOU CAN EX, I MEAN, WE CAN SEE, AND AS YOU'VE SAID, THOSE ARE IN THE, THE, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING UP THE PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN SEE THIS? NO, IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT, I CAN DROP YOU THIS ONE FOR, TO REVIEW. YOU HAVE THAT ON FILE BECAUSE THAT IS ON FILE. BUT IF YOU WANT, I CAN BRING THAT AND WE GO, WE, WE TAKE A PICTURE OF CROSSING THE STREET, THE BUS CLUB HAVE A FOUNTAIN WHO IS PLAIN, IT IS BLACK, IT'S PLAIN OR SHOULD BE GRAY, LIGHT GRAY, PLAIN. THAT IT'S THE TWO THINGS I WANT TO SHOW. IF YOU WANT, I CAN DROP YOU THAT AT, AT THE DESK. SURE, SURE. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTION, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU CAN SAY SOME WORDS, JERRY. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS JERRY CHER. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE GRAND VIEW AND ALSO A BOARD, UH, MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. UM, WE HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THIS WATER FEATURE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S DILAPIDATED AND DETERIORATING ONGOINGLY. AND SO A NEED TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION WAS, WAS NECESSARY. UH, TO THAT END, UM, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO UPDATE THE FEATURE IN A WAY THAT WAS BOTH TASTEFUL AND IN KEEPING WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN OUR AREA. THIS IS MIAMI BEACH. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN IT ALREADY IS, AND WE'RE ALREADY AT A HIGH LEVEL TO START WITH. AND SO, UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM TO THE BOARD THAT THE, UM, OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS IMPROVEMENT AND ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT'S NEEDED AND APPROVING THE DESIGN THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AS WE SPEAK NOW. UM, AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO JUST ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE MAIN DESIGN FEATURE OF OUR PROPERTY IS THIS FOUNTAIN. IT'S [02:50:01] RIGHT IN THE FRONT, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S WHEN YOU DRIVE BY. IT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS THING BESIDES THE NAME ON THE SIGNAGE. AND SO FOR IT TO LOOK THE WAY IT DOES, WE FEEL IT REALLY IS DETRACTING FROM THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE LOOK OF THE PROPERTY. AND WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO REALLY UPDATE AND ENHANCE THAT SITUATION. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO. OKAY. YOU GOT IT ALL? I'M GOOD. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE, AND DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? UH, WE HAVE NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION YOU ANYTHING TO SAY. OH, OKAY. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IS, WILL THE COLOR BE BROWNISH, LIKE THE ILLUSTRATION HERE, OR WOULD IT BE LIKE THE STONE? IT'S UM, IT'S LIKE THIS, LIKE THAT COLOR. OKAY. WILL BE HORIZONTAL COLOR. LIKE HORIZONTAL. YEAH. 'CAUSE THIS COLOR IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT ARCHITECT'S ARCHITECT PRINT DOWN THE LIGHT OF THE PICTURE, SELL A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WITH A SAMPLE, YOU, YOU CAN, THIS IS, YEAH. THAT'S WHY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IN THE SAMPLE. YES. YOU OKAY? THAT'S GOOD. AND, AND IS THAT THE, THE REFERENCE TO THE BATHHOUSE? THAT'S THIS, THEY USE THAT OR NO, NO, IT'S DIFFERENT JUST TO SHOW YOU BECAUSE WE'RE REMOVING THE BLOCK, THE GLASS BLOCK. OH. AND IT'LL LOOK PLAIN LIKE THE BASKET. SEE THAT'S WHAT IT'S ONLY MY POINT WAS THAT. I SEE. OKAY. AND THIS IS A FOUND, IT'S GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE WATER FLOWING ON TOP OF THIS. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. IT'S, IT'S WORKING BY THE WAY TODAY, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, IT'S LEAKING. IT'S WAITING TO REDO EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S PART YOU'RE GONNA REDO THE WHOLE THING. YES. LARRY, DID YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? NO, I JUST THINK THAT THE CHANGE IS VERY NICE AND I THINK IT WOULD ENHANCE, UM, THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT YOUR BUILDING AND ITS IDENTITY AND, AND ITS PALETTE, IF YOU WILL, IS GRAY IS GRAY, WHAT YOU GUYS WANT FOR YOUR FEATURE IN THE FRONT IS, IS THERE A COLOR THAT GOES WITH THE, YOUR BRAND OF, OF THE GRAND VIEW? IS THERE'S A BLUISH OR IS I, I I UNDERSTAND THE GRANITE. IT'S SANDBLASTED. A I KNOW THIS MATERIAL AND EVERYTHING FOR, AND I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE FIXING THIS. I'M JUST ASKING YOU LIKE, DID YOU GUYS GIVE THOUGHT TO, YOU'RE PUTTING A NEW, YOU'RE PUTTING A NEW MARK FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF THIS BUILDING. ARE YOU, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED, SO THE COLOR AT ALL THE SIGNAGE OR, OR THE, THE ACTUAL MATERIAL, THE SIGNAGE OF THE BUILDING IS CHROME. SO THERE IS SOME COMPLIMENT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE BY ADDING A GRAY ELEMENT. THE BUILDING 98% IS WHITE. SO I MEAN, WE COULD THEORETICALLY USE ANY COLOR PALETTE. NOT TO SAY THAT WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF LEFT FIELD, BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS UNDERSTATED, NOT, NOT SOMETHING GARISH, UH, WOULD, WOULD ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN, IT'S A WATER FEATURE, SO WATER'S GONNA BE GOING OVER IT. THE COLOR IS REALLY KIND OF LIKE THE BACKGROUND TO IT. THE WATER ITSELF IS REALLY THE, THE THING THAT IS GONNA CATCH PEOPLE'S EYE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANTED REALLY WAS SOMETHING JUST TASTEFUL AND, AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE GONNA CAUSE PEOPLE TO THINK OF NOTHING ELSE OF THE PROPERTY EXCEPT THE COLOR OF THE FOUNTAIN. SO WE WANTED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BIT MUTED, BUT YET TASTEFUL. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, EFFORT WAS TO, YOU KNOW, SEEK AS, AS A DESIGN NOT TO CONTRADICT THE WATER. FLOWING THE FLOW OF WATER. CORRECT. THE COLOR YOU CHOSE. CORRECT. OF STONE. ARE THERE, IS THIS CHANGE PART OF A LARGER RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING OR ARE YOU JUST FIXING THE WATER FEATURE? THE BALANCE OF THE BUILDING IS BEING, UM, GOING THROUGH A RESTORATION PROCESS DUE TO, YOU KNOW, THE SURFSIDE. MM-HMM. BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING, CHANGING THE COLOR PALETTE. WE'RE, WE'RE STICKING WITH WHAT IS EXISTING. MM-HMM . SO THIS REALLY IS THE MAIN DESIGN ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA OF, OF THE PROPERTY. AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE REPAINTING THE BUILDING OR CLEANING ANYTHING. IF, IF WE ALL MAINTAIN THE SAME COLOR PALETTE, IT'LL STAY WHITE. OKAY. UM, ADAM WAS YOUR QUESTION SUFFICIENTLY IT WAS FOR YOU GUYS? YEAH. I JUST THOUGHT I'M FINE WITH THIS. IS THERE LIGHTING IN THIS FOUNTAIN? IS IT GONNA UP WASH THE, THE FOUNTAIN OR IS IT JUST YOU LEAVING IT THE WAY IT WAS? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT DRIVEN BY, IF THERE WAS LIGHTS. NO, NOT LIGHT FOR NOW THEY'RE JUST SWAPPING OUT THE OLD TILE. YEAH, IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF YOU'D CONSIDER OR HAD CONSIDERED SOME LANDSCAPING OR SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THOSE. THOSE [02:55:01] WALLS ARE KIND OF STARK. THERE'S LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. NO, RIGHT IN THE GREEN AREA. RIGHT IN THE FOUNTAIN ON THE TWO SIDES OF THE FOUNTAIN. YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE, IT'S A LOT OF JUST STARK WHITE WALLS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF BLANK. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING SOME LANDSCAPING IN THAT GRASSY AREA ON THE SIDES OF THE FOUNTAIN TO KIND OF SOFTEN IT A BIT. UH, HASN'T BEEN REALLY ADDRESSED TO THIS POINT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE NOW A DARKER CONTRAST WITH THAT WHITE WALL. AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD ADD A, IT JUST FEELS BULKY. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE DESIGN OF IT. I'M NOT, BUT I THINK SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDES MIGHT SOFTEN THAT A BIT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'M NOT SAYING WE, I THINK WE, WE HAVE LANDSCAPE ON THE SIDE. WE HAVE SOME VERSION ON THE SIDE. WE HAVE THAT, THAT IS EXISTING AND WE'RE WELL MAINTAINED AND, AND WE TRIM THAT. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE, I'M TALKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FOUNTAIN. THERE'S A GRASSY AREA ON BOTH SIDES IN FRONT OF THE FOUNTAIN. THERE'S A STRIP OF JUST GRASS. AND ALL I'M SAYING IS IT MIGHT BE NICE TO PUT A LITTLE LOW LANDSCAPING THERE. AND WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE TWO BLANK WALLS TO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT TO THE FOUNTAIN, YOU HAVE AN AREA OF GRASS WHERE YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING MAYBE A LITTLE TALLER THAT MIGHT SOFTEN THAT. THAT'S ALL JUST A SUGGESTION. WE, WE HAVE LOW HEDGES ALONG, UH, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT MAYBE WE CAN JUST CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. YEAH. I JUST THINK IT MIGHT ADD A SOFT, JUST, JUST TIE IT TOGETHER. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NORTH AND SOUTH. SURE. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. I, I WENT BY THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY AND TOOK A LOOK. AND YOU DO HAVE NICE LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDES. YES. AND I, YEAH, I, THAT WAS GONNA BE ONE OF MY COMMENTS TOO. YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED. YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FOUNTAIN, WHICH IS, IT'S LARGE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AT LEAST THE GLASS BRICK AT THIS POINT, NOT ONLY IS IT OUTDATED, BUT IT'S NOT IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT IT DOES DO A GOOD JOB OF BREAKING UP THE LARGE EXPANSE OF ONE SOLID COLOR. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS GONNA HAVE, IT IS THAT WITH THIS JUST SWAPPING OUT THE TILE IS NOT REALLY GONNA ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS OF MAKING THE BUILDING LOOK MORE ELEVATED. YOU KNOW, I THINK ADDING THE LANDSCAPE, LIKE I SAID ON THE SIDE IS LOVELY. PUT MORE LANDSCAPING IN THE GRASSY AREAS IN FRONT OF THE FOUNTAIN AS WELL AS, RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST GRASS FULL OF WEEDS THAT SHOULD BE PROPERLY LANDSCAPED. UM, I THINK THAT THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THE GLASS ON THE BALCONIES LOOKS LIKE IT HAS ALMOST LIKE A, A, A BLUISH UNDERTONE. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO NOT GRAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH I, I THINK WHAT ADAM WAS GETTING AT IS IT JUST, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LARGE EXPANSIVE GRAY, BUT TO DO SOMETHING THAT TIES IN BETTER WITH THE ACTUAL BUILDING, THE CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDING. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING OTHER RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE CHANGING IT ANYWAY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS, YES, THIS IS, THIS IS SIMPLE AND IT IS TASTEFUL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, THIS IS TO YOUR POINT, THE MAIN FEATURE AT STREET LEVEL OF YOUR BUILDING. IT'S THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE SEE AND NOTICE IT, IT SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF IT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TAKE A TONE THAT IS MORE COHESIVE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN MY PROFESSIONAL VIEW, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE IN A CONDO AND EVERYBODY HAS TO AGREE AND BE PLEASED. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MY RECOMMENDATION. UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE I'M NOT IN THE MINORITY. THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL HERE. AND IF YOU REALLY WANNA ELEVATE THE BUILDING AND THE WAY THAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN I, I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE TILE, BUT MAYBE ADDING THE LANDSCAPING, I'LL MAKE IT NICE. I MEAN, BUT THEY HAVE A, IF A COMMITTEE WHO DECIDE THAT, BELIEVE ME, WAS NOT EASY FOR, I CAN IMAGINE , I KNOW. THAT'S WHY I EVEN FEEL BAD SAYING IT LIKE THIS TO ME, SEEMS LIKE A VERY, VERY SAFE CHOICE. THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF CONDOMINIUM OWNERS WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD AGREE ON. DID YOU HAVE OTHER STONE COLORS? THEY HAVE A MATERIAL CHANGE ISSUE TO WORRY ABOUT. I'M SURE. SO TO THE POINT OF THE LANDSCAPING, IF I MAY, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE RENOVATIONS OF THE FOUNTAIN ARE DONE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND ANYTHING WE WOULD'VE PUT THERE NOW WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT. SO THIS IS ALL GONNA BE AFTER THE FACT. YEAH, NO, OF COURSE. I MEAN, USUALLY WHEN WE SEE THESE PRESENTATIONS, AND I GUESS IT'S DIFFERENT, RECOMMEND DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT THERE IS A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT OF COURSE IS ADDED AT THE END. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THERE ALREADY IS NICE IF YOU JUST EXTEND THAT. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, BUT I DEFINITELY, THAT WOULD BE THE LOGICAL, LOGICAL THING TO DO. BE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. YEAH. UM, DID YOU HAVE OTHER COLORS THAT WERE OF STONE THAT WERE CONSIDERED AND PRESENTED TO THE BOARD? NOT, NOT REALLY. LET, LET ME TO RECAP THE STORY ABOUT THAT. THIS RENOVATION, EXCUSE ME, UH, UH, START IN 2021 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 2020. THE DESIGN, THE FIRST DESIGN. AND UH, [03:00:01] AND, AND THEN BY FOR BUDGET CONSIDERATION, THEY, THEY LEAVE THAT ON THE SIDE. ON THE SIDE. WE DO ALL THE LOBBY OF, IN INTERIOR, COMPLETELY REDONE. WE, THEY DID A LOT OF, OF, OF, OF, OF INVESTMENT INVER INSIDE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL. AND, UH, AND, UH, THIS ONE DELIVER FOR, FOR, FOR LAST, AND NOT NOW WE ARE, IT, IT'S THE MOMENT TO DO THAT. UH, UM, I'M THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR OF THE PROJECT TWO, I PULLED THE PERMIT, UH, IN 2021. IT WAS ALMOST APPROVED. AND THEN, UH, THEY HAVE EXTENSION, EXTENSION, EXTENSION, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT. AND THEN, UH, WHEN WE CALLED FOR THE LAST EXTENSION, UH, UH, MR. MADAN, MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME, UH, UH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT SURE TO APPROVE THAT FROM STAFF. ISSUE MEANS BUILDING THE, THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT IS READY. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST, IT'S APPROVED. BUT, UH, UH, TO, TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT, WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR YOUR APPROVAL. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE NOW. IT'S A VERY LONG STORY. AND THEY CHOOSE THAT MANY TIMES AGO, MAYBE ONE YEAR AGO, THAT THEY, THEY CHOOSE THAT OR A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, AND BELIEVE ME, IT WAS A COMMITTEE OR THEY CREATE A COMMITTEE FOR THAT AND THEY APPROVE THIS SCHOLAR. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE PLAN B NOW TO, TO TELL YOU NOW. THAT'S THE IT TRUTH. IT WAS A STONE COMMITTEE CREATED. I'M ASK YOU, CAN WE, CAN WE RECOMMEND THAT THERE ARE LIGHTS ADDED TO THINGS? THIS ISN'T A BLACK HOLE AT NIGHT. I WAS GONNA JUST SPEAK ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE I MEAN, AT NIGHT YOU'RE LOSING WATER. I MEAN, EVEN WITH WATER AND GREEN, THAT IT'S, I MEAN, YOU COULD AT LEAST HIGHLIGHT THE BEAUTY OF IT, BUT YEAH, AT NIGHT IT'S JUST GONNA LOOK LIKE ONE DARK BLOCKS AND IT'LL BE AN EXTRA 8,000, $10,000. YOU PUT FOUR UPLIGHTS ALONG THE WATERFALL SECTION THAT LIGHTS UP THAT, THAT'LL POP IT JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ALL ALONG COLLINS. AND IT, IT'LL, IT'LL GIVE YOUR BUILDING MORE PRO PROMINENCE. IT'LL ENHANCE THE VALUE OF ALL THE UNITS AND ENHANCE THE VALUE. I THINK IT'LL JUST, YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA EMPTY IT AND YOU'RE GONNA RECOAT IT ANYWAYS. I THINK THE LIGHTING WOULD BE A NICE, MAYBE DO YOU HAVE ELECTRICITY SUGGEST? CAN I SUGGEST, UH, UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PERMIT ISSUE AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THIS ONE, IT WAS DELAYED SO MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, UH, CAN WE, UH, UM, GET THE PERMIT SUBJECT TO LIGHT THE, THE FOUNTAIN FROM THE INSIDE FROM LOW VOLTAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT IF THAT THIS POINT CAN BE, CAN BE REVIEWED BY, BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, IF, BECAUSE IF WE NEED TO TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, WE, WE LOSING HER. I THINK STAFF COULD REVIEW IT. YEAH. STAFF, STAFF CAN REVIEW. OKAY. PERFECT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, JUST ON THE TILES, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE EXPLORING COLOR, MAYBE THE WAY YOU'VE ALIGNED THE TILES COULD BE, YOU COULD EXPERIMENT WITH THAT. LIKE, IT, IT SEEMS A LITTLE, THE WAY IT'S DONE IS LIKE AN OLD BRICK HOUSE. LIKE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL MODERN BUILDING BEHIND IT. SO MAYBE, MAYBE THE YEAH. HERRINGBONE, OR I WAS THINKING MAYBE LIKE A VERTICAL STACK, LIKE JUST SEEING LIKE HOW THE TILE LAYOUT GOES. UM, HOW WERE YOU GONNA LAY OUT THE TILE HORIZONTALLY AND THE OFFSET, OFFSET HORIZONTAL, UH, I APOLOGIZE, BUT THAT SAMPLE SPECIFICALLY, THAT NATURAL STONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALMOST WITHOUT ANY SEAM. SO AT THE END, WE JUST PUT THE, BASICALLY THAT DARK GROUT, SO YOU CAN HAVE AN IDEA THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE AT A SMALL PIECES. OKAY. IT'S NOT THE INTENT TO HAVE A, LIKE, IT GONNA BE A BIG GAP OF SEPARATION AT THE END, GONNA BE LIKE A WALL WITH THAT STRONG TEXTURE THAT THE, THE WATER GONNA BE RUNNING THROUGH. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME, SOME STONE TEXTURE, UM, THAT IS FALLING THROUGH THE WATER. I SEE. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE RENDERING. AND I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU HOW TO DESIGN THIS, BUT I JUST, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING WITH TILES, JUST CONSIDERING HOW THAT, IF THE GRAD'S NOT SHOWING, IT'S NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE. HOW ABOUT IF THE, THE PIECES WERE, YOU KNOW, SO SLIGHTLY OFFSET SO THAT THE, WHEN THE WATER MOVES DOWN THAT YOU'VE GOT, THAT'S NICE. YOU'VE GOT TO MOVE. AND OTHERWISE IT'S A SHEER, IT, IT'S, THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED FLAT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'LL BE VERY, VERY DIRT. YOU NEED, YOU NEED, THEY NEED TO, TO BE, TO BE ALIGNED. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF WE HAVE SOME STEPS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF DUST, WE NEED TO, THEY WILL BE LIVING, CLEANING, CLEAN THIS VERTICAL WALL THAT IS, WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT WITH, WITH SOME STACKING, STACKING STONES, YOU KNOW, ON THE VERTICAL CASCA. NO, I THINK TO TO LAURA'S POINT, THAT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ARTISTICALLY INTERESTING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS A PRETTY, [03:05:01] THIS IS A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IT'S AT THE VERY FRONT. SO I, YEAH, IF THERE COULD BE SOME SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE. 'CAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA READ AS A GREAT BIG DARK WALL AT THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING. WELL, HOPEFULLY. AND I AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF, UM, ADDING LIGHTS, UH, TO GIVE IT A 24 HOUR A DAY, YOU KNOW, PROMINENCE. I THINK THAT THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT THE WATER MOST ESPECIALLY. AND I THINK EVERYTHING BEHIND IT IS GOING TO BE BACKGROUND AND, AND NOT REALLY OBSERVABLE IN, IN A, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE NOBODY'S GETTING CLOSE TO THIS WALL. IT'S, IT'S SET BACK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STREET PRETTY FAR. SO, I MEAN, NO, IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE SIDEWALK. YES. IT'S NOT SET BACK AT ALL. HAVE TO LEVEL. YES. I, I, I DON'T KNOW. LIKE I SAID, I WAS JUST THERE YESTERDAY. I WAS STARING AT IT. AND THIS JUST SEEMS, THIS IS A GREAT, THIS IS A LARGE SPACE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S TEXTURE AND, AND VARIATION IN HERE, BUT IT'S VERY SMALL AND IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA TRANSLATE. THE WATER IS ALSO GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DISTORT IT. SO IT'S GONNA READ VERY, VERY FLAT. THE COLORWISE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO READ SO MUCH TEXTURE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO READ ANY VARIATION IN COLOR. IT'S JUST GONNA BE VERY FLAT AND VERY DARK. AND IT POURS SOME WATER ON IT. IT'S GONNA BE BLACK. YEAH. IT'S GONNA BE DARKER WHEN IT GETS WET. SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU REACH YOUR GOALS OF MAKING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS ELEGANT AND ELEVATES THE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING. SO, I DON'T KNOW. BUT ALSO, I MEAN, LIKE, I'M TRYING TO ALSO BE SENSITIVE TO THE PROCESS. I'M, I'M SORRY. SO I'M VERY CONFLICTED HERE. I THINK THE REASON WHY THEY PUSH IT TOWARDS US IS BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING OUT. I, I, I, I FEEL YOUR PAIN. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE YOUR MATERIAL, BUT I, I, I KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. THERE'S THE, THERE'S A WALL OF, OF HAMMER. IT'S LIKE TAO ON LIKE SLABS OF IT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S LIKE A SHEER THING. AND IT, IT'S ALL, IT'S BLACK, IT'S B***H BLACK. AND I THINK TWO, IT'D BE ONE THING IF YOU HAD DIFFERENT WATER FEATURES THAT WERE COMING UP, BUT IT'S JUST GONNA BE YOU, YOU KNOW? SO TO HAVE, LIKE, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD BACKGROUND FOR SOME OTHER DECORATIVE WATER FEATURES. YOU COULD, BUT IT'S JUST A CASCADE. YOU COULD PUT A COUPLE OF LIKE, NUBS AT THE TOP. SO THE WATER THEN, INSTEAD OF, I MEAN, THERE'S, THIS IS A, IT'S A FOUNTAIN. THAT COULD BE, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL. YES. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WOULD BE LIGHTER, YOU KNOW, A GRADIENT OR I, I, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING. BUT, BUT A AGAIN, HONESTLY, I'M VERY CONFLICTED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE BUILDING. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. HAS THIS BEEN FOR YEARS, BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVAL? YEAH. , I HAVE THEY COMMITTEE, THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE, BUT IT'S ONLY COME TO US ONCE. YEAH, YEAH. YES. THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER A STONE COMMITTEE THAT EVALUAT, TRUST ME, I, I WORK WITH CONDOS. IT'S WORKS. AND THEY PRESENTED THE, UM, RENDERING OF THE BATH CLUB, BECAUSE IF YOU GO BY THE BATH CLUB WALL, IT IS VERY SIMILAR. IT'S A DARK WALL WITH THE, UM, WITH THE WATER FLOWING. UM, I THINK THAT ONCE THEY ADD, UM, THE LIGHTING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AND THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, IT'LL BRING SOME OTHER, UH, LIFE TO IT. WHAT ARE THE, UH, YOU SAID YOUR, UH, LOBBY HAS BEEN REDONE AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. YES. WHAT IS THE MAIN, THE MAIN COLORS IN THAT LOBBY? THAT'S BASICALLY WHITE. AND, AND THEY HAVE COLUMNS IN WOOD. YOU KNOW, WE DID COLUMNS AND WOOD, ALL THE COLUMNS THEY HAVE ON THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS COLUMNS AGAINST THE WALL, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WE PUT THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YEAH. VENEER AROUND. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A WOOD WHITE, AND, UH, THE FRONT DESK, IT'S IN, IT'S IN MARBLE. IT'S IN, IT'S, IT'S IN MARBLE, THE BALD WHITE MARBLE, OR IT'S MORE WHITE AND, AND, AND, AND GRAY AND, AND, AND THIS KIND OF COLOR, YOU KNOW. OKAY. LITTLE BIT DARKER THAN WHAT COLOR IS THE MARBLE? UH, IT'S WHITE. WHITE. OKAY. IT'S WHITE. AND THE BASS CLUB, IT'S WHITE TOO, YOU KNOW, AND THE FRONT END, IT'S BLACK. OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL VOTE TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT YOU WORK WITH STAFF ON THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COHESIVE WITH THE BUILDING OVERALL. UM, AND THEN TO ALSO INCORPORATE AN UPLIGHTING FEATURE AND, UM, AND THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL AROUND THE FOUNTAIN. UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S, I, I WANT, I, AGAIN, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED. [03:10:01] 'CAUSE IT IS, IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG SWATH OF, OF DARK. SO WE JUST WANNA ENSURE THAT IT'S GONNA LOOK, UM, COHESIVE WITH THE BUILDING. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT WITH STAFF. UM, I THINK WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOME IDEAS OF JUST HOW TO PLAY, UM, PLAY WITH GETTING THERE. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THOSE THREE CONDITIONS. CAN WE ADD TO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT STAFF IS, OH, HERE TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE THAT STAFF WORKS WITH THEM ON THE, THE PLAY OF LIGHT AND, AND WATER MOVEMENT. BECAUSE THEY COULD PUT A COUPLE UPTURN PIECES AND EVERYTHING CAN LOOK DIFFERENT ONCE THE WATER'S MOVING. SO LEAVE IT IN, IN THEIR HANDS. AGREED. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS BEAUTIFUL. . I WAS RE-LOOKING AT THE BATH CLUB EXAMPLE THAT YOU BROUGHT. AND YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, I KNOW, I REALIZE THERE'S IS A LOT LARGER, BUT THEY'VE, AND I'M NOT SURE I LIKE, LOVE THIS EXAMPLE EITHER, BUT THEY'VE AT LEAST LIKE STEPPED MM-HMM . IN PLACES. SO THE WATER IS SHOWING SOME MOVEMENT. SO JUST TAKING FROM, FROM THAT. SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A STEP IN YOUR WATERFALL, RIGHT? I SEE THAT. YES. IT'S ONE STEP. YEAH. IT'S NOT AS HIGH AS THIS ONE. YES. YEAH. UM, A WATERFALL. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE SECOND THE MOTION WITH, WAS THERE MORE CONDITIONS? NOPE. OKAY. I THINK I'M FINISHED. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AMENDMENT. OKAY. UH, YEAH. WITH ADAM'S FRIENDLY AMENDMENT INCORPORATED. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. HAVE MOTION. MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MYRON DID. I DID. OKAY. OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. OH, YEAH, YEAH. TAKE ALL YOUR STUFF. OKAY. UM, WE ARE NOW GONNA TAKE, UH, A LUNCH BREAK. SO, UM, 1, 2, 3, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE'LL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK, WE'LL RESUME. IT'S 1232. I THINK WE CAN RESUME AT 1:00 PM SO THANK YOU. 3, 2, 1. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME BACK TO THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. UM, I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE ORDER A LITTLE BIT, UM, JUST SO, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL [17. DRB25-1142, 1000 South Pointe Drive.] DRB TWENTY FIVE ELEVEN FORTY TWO 1000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE NEXT. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'RE GONNA HEAR ALL THE RIGHT OF WAYS. OKAY? SO, DRB 24, 11 40 2000 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. AND THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING THIS REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THEM FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE AND EXTERIOR AREAS OF AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING. SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RENOVATE THE FACADE, CHANGE SIGNAGE, AND PROVIDE A NEW CARDHOUSE. OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, AN, AN APPLICATION TO MODIFY, UM, MURANO AT PORT, AT PORTOFINO. THEY'RE GONNA BE, UM, UM, AS STATED IN THE TITLE, THEY'RE GONNA BE MODIFYING, UH, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING TO PROVIDE A NEW ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY. THE DRIVEWAY, UH, WILL BE, WILL INCLUDE A CIRCULAR DROP OFF AREA WITH NEW CHARCOAL AND P PAVERS, UM, LAID IN AN UNEVEN STRIPED PATTERN. UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING A NEW DEFINED PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY, UM, UH, TO TRAVERSE, UH, WHICH WILL BE TRAVERSING THE EXISTING SIDEWALK AND DELINEATE A PATH TO THE MURANO BEACH CLUB. UM, THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICATION INCLUDES PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING PORTICO SHARE AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW, UH, TRAPEZOIDAL CANOPY SUPPORTED BY, UM, IRREGULAR HEXAGON SHAPED CONCRETE COLUMNS AT EACH END. UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE LINED WITH SMOOTH STUCCO, UM, AND IT'S GONNA MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDING, UM, COLOR. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE NEW LIMESTONE TILES TO DEFINE THE EXTERIOR ENTRANCE FLOOR THAT LEADS INTO THE NEW ENTRANCE. UM, AND, AND THEN SLIDING GLASS DOOR SYSTEM DETAILED WITH BRONZE CLAD FINS, WA WALLS, AND PROJECTING, UH, BRONZE CLAD EYEBROW. UM, WITHIN THE ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY MEDIAN, THE APPLICANT, UM, WAS PROPOSING A NEW, UH, 67 SQUARE FOOT GUARDHOUSE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE MAY BE, UH, SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT MAY BE BROUGHT UP BY THE APPLICANT. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT, UH, FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, UH, TO DISCUSS. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE MON, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO, UH, MODIFY THE MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED AT THE SOUTH OF THE VEHICULAR ENTRANCE. UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PARTIALLY DEMOLISH THE EXISTING SIGN, UH, SPECIFICALLY ITS SIDE PILLARS. UM, AND THAT INCLUDES SOME PLANTERS AND SOME OTHER FEATURES THAT IT HAS. AND THEN IN ITS PLACE, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A MORE CONTEMPORARY MONUMENT SIGN, UH, THAT IS, UH, REFACED IN LIMESTONE. UM, SO, AND THEN THAT WILL, THE SIGN WILL INDICATE THE BUILDING'S NAME, MURANO, [03:15:01] AND THEN THE ADDRESS, 1000 SIGN POINT, UH, SOUTH POINT DRIVE. UM, OVERALL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, OF THE APPLICATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT IT BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. ANY DISCLOSURES YOU MUCH BEFORE THE PETITION'S PRESENT OR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION? ANY, UM, ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TRACY SLAVIN. MY ADDRESS IS 3,800 NORTHEAST TRACY. OH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MIC WAS ON. OKAY. MY, MY NAME IS TRACY SLAVIN AND MY ADDRESS IS 3,800 NORTHEAST FIRST AVENUE, SUITE 200. I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR THEIR REVIEW AND THE RECOMMENDATION. WE AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT AND ALL OF THE CONDITIONS. UM, I'M JOINED HERE TODAY BY MY COLLEAGUE, LIZBETH BUENO, FRANK KKI, BEN HUTCHINS, AND FERNANDA PEREIRA OF ARCHITECTONIC GEO AND SCOTT KITCHEN OF SKA DESIGN. UM, TOGETHER WE'VE WORKED ON THE PRESENTATION YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, AND I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF, UH, FOR THE REIMAGINED ENTRANCE TO THE MURANO PORTOFINO CONDO, SO WE CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO THE PROJECT, UM, EXPLANATION. SO, UM, THIS IS AN IRREGULARLY SHAPED AREA THAT, UH, FRONTS ALTON ROAD, SOUTH POINT DRIVE, AND ALSO THE MARINA BEHIND IT. UM, AND THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES A RENOVATION TO THE PORT COSHA, UM, THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE, NEW LANDSCAPING AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THE DOG PARK. UM, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WILL VOTE ON OUR DRIVEWAY, THE ENTRANCE FACADE, THE MONUMENT SIGN, AND THE PLANTINGS. THE GUARDHOUSE THAT WAS A PART OF THE PLANS IS NO LONGER PROPOSED. THIS WAS A DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD AFTER WE FILED THE APPLICATION AND ACTUALLY AFTER WE MADE OUR FINAL SUBMITTAL. SO THAT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PRESENTATION AND WE'VE UPDATED ALL OF THE RENDERINGS. UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. SO THE MURANO, UH, A PORTOFINO SIGN IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS CURRENTLY BLACK MARBLE WITH CHROME SILVER TONE LETTERING. THAT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH, UH, LIMESTONE AND BRONZE LETTERING. UM, THE PAVERS WILL BE UPDATED, THE SIDEWALK WILL BE RENEWED, AND THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE ENHANCED. UM, HERE'S A DETAIL OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. THE SHAPE OF THE DRIVEWAY WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE ENTRANCE POINTS WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THESE ARE ALL JUST, UM, AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENTS TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO HERE'S A SLIDE SHOWING SOME OF THE MATERIALS. THE CURBING WILL BE GRANITE. UM, THE MIAMI BEACH SIDEWALK WILL BE REPLACED, BUT IN THE SAME PINK. UM, OUR CONCRETE PAVERS WILL BE PEWTER AND CHARCOAL TONED. UM, AND THE LIMESTONE PAVERS WILL BE USED AT THE ENTRANCE LOBBY. UM, TODAY THERE IS A PORT KOSHER WITH, UM, STRONG COLUMNS AND A VERY ORNATE CANOPY THAT'S ATTACHED, UM, WITH, AS YOU CAN SEE, A LOT OF METAL ROTTING AND, AND GRID WORK THAT CREATES A SORT OF CONSONANT DESIGN. A COM TO THAT DOESN'T QUITE COMPLIMENT THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT'S PROPOSED. IT'S MUCH SLEEKER, IT'S MORE STREAMLINED. IT HAS A MORE TROPICAL MODERN FEEL, AND IT ALIGNS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE BALCONIES. UM, ALSO THE ENTRANCE, UH, DOORS TO THE BUILDING WILL BE UPDATED. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S BRONZE CLADDING AROUND THE DOORWAY. UM, THE, THE PAINTING, UM, ON THE EXISTING DOORS WILL BE REMOVED AND THEY WILL BE MORE SOLID GLASS. HERE'S A, A DETAIL OF THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE IT UP CLOSE. IT'S JUST A, A BIT MORE MODERN, A BIT MORE ELEGANT AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MAINTAIN AS WELL. SO THIS IS THE FINAL VERSION. AND THEN FOR THE SIGN, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DEMOLITION TO THE FRONT OF THE SIGN. AND THE PILLARS THAT EXIST ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SIGN, THE IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM OUTLINES IN RED WHAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED. AND THE MURANO, UH, SIGN WITH THE ADDRESS WILL BE CLAD IN LIMESTONE. AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE PILLARS, WE WILL HAVE PLANTINGS AROUND. SO IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE LUSH ENTRANCE. AND HERE'S A DETAIL OF THAT. UM, THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY. SO, UH, IN THE PLANS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET, THERE WAS A SMALL GUARDHOUSE SHOWN IN THE MEDIAN HERE, AND THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. UM, AND A, A PALM WILL BE REPLACED, UM, IN, IN THAT LOCATION. AND THOSE ARE ME DATE PALMS. AND HERE'S A PLANTING LIST. AND, AND WITH THAT, IT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? WANT ANYONE ONLINE? UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND NO HANDS RAISED. OKAY, GREAT. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. ANYBODY AKIEL? SURE. UM, OVERALL I DO LIKE THE NEW [03:20:01] DESIGN FOR, IT LOOKED LIKE A, IT IS CORPORATE INSURANCE. YEAH. THIS LOOKS MORE LIKE A, UH, MODERN LIKE WELLNESS CENTER TYPE OF ENTRYWAY. AND SO YOU SEE SOMEWHERE IN THE SOUTHEAST SOUTHWESTER US. SO OVERALLS, WELL DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE? LAURA? YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR AS WELL. UM, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. UM, SO YOU'RE GETTING RID OF A FOUNTAIN CONCEPT ALTOGETHER, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST A SIGN? CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. I, I'M IN FAVOR. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CRITIQUE TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH, EVERYBODY. GREAT. SO, UM, ROGELIO, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE TO, TO MODIFY. HOW, HOW DO YOU WANNA, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS SUPPORTIVE. UM, SO JUST, UH, AS PART OF THE MOTION TO JUST CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE ACCEPTING THE MODIFICATION PRESENTED TODAY AS, AS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION TO REMOVE THE, THE GUARDHOUSE. OKAY. OR SHOULD WE MAKE IT SO THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW SIGN AND THE OTHER LANDSCAPE? EVERYTHING BUT THE GUARDHOUSE, UM, OR WE'RE JUST REMOVING THE GUARD HOUSE FROM THE APPLICATION? YEAH. OKAY. EXCLUSIVE OF THE GUARD HOUSE. EXCLUSIVE OF THE GUARD HOUSE, YES. OKAY. AS PRE AND AS PRESENTED, UH, TODAY. OKAY. YES. UM, DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE THE MOTION MM-HMM . YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DESIGN AS, AS PRESENTED WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE GUARDHOUSE. OKAY. SECOND AGAIN. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. DIFF FOR A SECOND BY MR. MESH BERG. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. BE OPPOSED. NO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, WE ARE MOVING ON TO A SERIES OF THE CITYWIDE SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY NODES. UM, HOW DO WE WANNA, SHOULD I READ THEM ALL INTO THE RECORD? THERE'S SOME THAT I THINK ARE GONNA HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION THAN OTHERS, SO WE CAN READ IF YOU'D LIKE ALL OF THE FILE NUMBERS AND ADDRESSES, CALL THEM UP ALL AT ONCE. OKAY. AND THEN WE WILL READ THE TITLE IS THE SAME FOR ALL OF THEM, SO WE'LL JUST READ THE TITLE ONCE. OKAY. UH, BUT WE CAN READ ALL THE ADDRESSES AND THEN THE TITLE AND THEN, UH, AND THEN PROCEED. WE CAN DISCUSS THEM ALL. YEAH. UM, IN THE ORDER THAT YOU LIKE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, SO THIS IS DRB 25 1 1 2 7 65 26 COLLINS AVENUE. RIGHT OF WAY, DRB 25 1 1 28 9 6 2 70 FIRST STREET, RIGHT OF WAY, DRB 25 1 1 3 0 1300 NORMANDY DRIVE RIGHT OF WAY. DRB 25 1 1 3 1 71 40 COLLINS AVENUE. RIGHT OF WAY, DRB 25 1 1 3 2 69 70 COLLINS AVENUE. RIGHT OF WAY, DRB 25 1 1 3 3 11 0 8 NORMANDY DRIVE RIGHT OF WAY. D RRB 25 11 34 8 8 7 SECOND STREET RIGHT OF WAY. DRB 25, 11 35, 600 ALTON ROAD, RIGHT OF WAY. DRB 25, 11 36. [10. DRB25-1136, 1143 71st Street Right of Way.] 1 1 4 3 70 FIRST STREET RIGHT OF WAY. UM, HELIO, DO YOU WANNA START WITH THE ONES THAT, THAT STAFF HAD MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT MOVING? SURE, SURE. OKAY. WHICH ONES WERE THOSE? UM, BE BEFORE WE DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I CAN READ THE TITLE. OH, YEAH. UM, SO THIS IS CITYWIDE SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY. NODES AND APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY NODE, UH, NODES WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAME TITLE FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO THE ONES THAT THE APPLICANT HAD CONCERNS WITH. SO, SO STAFF HAD PROVIDED, IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE MADE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MOST OF, FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS. WE MADE A, A GENERAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE POLE MATCHED THE COLORS OF THE SURROUNDING POLES IN THE VICINITY. SO THAT WAS A STANDARD RECOMMENDATION THAT WE INCLUDED IN, IN, IN ALL OF THESE. AND THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH, WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR FOUR OF THEM. UM, WE LOOKED AT THE LOCATIONS AND, AND THEY WERE LOCATED ON, ON A SIDEWALK, TYPICALLY IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. UM, AND THEN THE LOCATION OF THE SIDEWALK STAFF HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT WOULD BE, UM, HAVE LESS OF AN IMPACT THAN THE SIDEWALK. UM, MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO VIEW CORRIDORS AND, AND SUCH. MM-HMM . SO STAFF MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE SOME CONCERNS. UM, THESE FACILITIES HAVE A RADIUS, AS I UNDERSTAND, OF ABOUT 300 FEET. AND SO THEY DO HAVE SOME OPERATIONAL NEEDS IN TERMS OF WHERE THESE ARE LOCATED IN TERMS OF SERVICING, UH, THE SPECIFIC CLIENTS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO REACH. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE. UM, THE, THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY, UM, ON, ON, IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT'S CALLED OUT AS ITEM ONE, UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. [03:25:01] OKAY. UM, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE, THOSE, THOSE ISSUES FOR THE REST OF THEM, STAFF WAS OKAY WITH THE, THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. UM, THERE, THERE REALLY WEREN'T MANY ALTERNATIVES FOR THOSE, THOSE, THOSE FOR THOSE POLLS. UM, SO FOR [2. DRB25-1127, 6526 Collins Avenue Right of Way.] THE FIRST ONE, DRB 25, 11 27, THAT'S 65 26 COLLINS AVENUE, RIGHT OF WAY. UM, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING WHAT'S CALLED AN INTEGRATED STEALTH POLE WITH THE ANTENNA ON TOP. UM, THE PROPOSED LOCATION STAFF FELT WAS NOT IN LINE WITH THE EXISTING UTILITIES AND COULD IMPEDE THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW BY LIMITING THE CLEAR, CLEAR PEDESTRIAN PATH ALONG THIS CO UH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THIS IS ON COLLINS AVENUE IN NORTH BEACH, AND A FEW OF THESE ARE ON COLLINS, ON COLLINS AVENUE IN NORTH BEACH, WHERE WE HAD THESE CONCERNS. UM, SO THE SITE, UM, IN ADDITION TO LIMITING THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, THE SITE WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. SO WE, WE FELT IT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEIR, ON THEIR VIEWS TO THE WEST. UM, SO STAFF DID RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE MOVED, UH, TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BLOCK ON 67TH AVENUE. UH, I MEAN, SORRY, ON 67TH STREET. HOWEVER, IN DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS BY MOVING IT THAT FAR NORTH. IT DOES AFFECT THE SERVICE AREA THAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO, UM, TO SERVE AND TO COVER. UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAD HAD, UH, SOME CONCERNS THAT WE CAN, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN DISCUSS EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY OR, OR WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND THEN THEY CAN PRESENT. UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT INDIVIDUALLY. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ALL HAVE INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL ISSUES. OKAY. AND THEN MAYBE THE ONES THAT WE SPEAK THROUGH THE END, THERE'S JUST GONNA BE LESS BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE YEAH. OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? SO YOU WANNA DISCUSS FIRST THE ONES THAT HAVE THE COMMENTS? LET'S, YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONES AT A TIME. ONES WERE MORE, I DON'T WANNA SAY CONTROVERSIAL, THAT SEEMS TOO STRONG A WORD, BUT JUST THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. NO PROBLEM. SO THEN IT WOULD BE THE DRB 20, THE FIRST ITEM NUMBER ONE. YEAH, THE FIRST ONE. 65 26 COLLINS. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND KNOW OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS GILBERTA GONZALEZ. I WORK FOR CROWN CASTLE FIBER, UH, LOCATED AT 34 70 NORTHWEST 82ND AVENUE, SUITE 1000 INDOOR AISLE. UM, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A CHANCE TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSAL TO INSTALL SMALL WELLS WIRELESS FACILITIES. UM, ON THIS ITEM FOR, UM, D RRB 25 1 1 27. UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED ALSO WITH THE PANEL, UH, UH, UM, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT THE LOCATION OF, OF OUR NODES. UM, LIKE, LIKE MR. MADAN SAID, UH, NORMALLY THE, THE PURPOSE OF INSTALLING THESE SMALL CELLS IS FOR THE COVERAGE. UH, WE, OUR CLIENTS JUST WANT TO COVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THE AREA THAT WE'RE INSTALLING SO IT CAN HAVE THE PROPER COVERAGE ON THIS CASE. WE WERE DISCUSSING YESTERDAY AND, UM, WE WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES ON, ON OUR LOCATION AND WHERE THEY WANTED AT. UH, WE CAME AT SOME KIND OF, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT MEDIAN SIZE, UH, UH, UH, DECIDING THAT THERE'S A STREET, IF YOU NOTICE SOUTH OF IT, UH, 65TH STREET, WHERE, UM, WE CAN INSTALL, WE CAN MOVE THE NOTE TO THAT SIDE JUST TO AVOID LIKE IT SAYS, UH, ANY BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER, UH, ON THAT AREA, WHICH ALL IT HAS IN FRONT IS JUST THAT PARKING LOT THAT YOU SEE ON, ON, ON THE DISPLAY. UM, THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAD IN THERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO VALIDATE OR WHATEVER, IS THAT 65TH STREET SHOWS ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER THAT IT BELONGS TO SIERRA MIAMI BEACH. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. AND SO THAT'S, CAN YOU, IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU TO MAYBE POINT OUT THE AREA ON THE IMAGE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO. NO. UH, LEMME SEE IF THE OTHER ONES MM-HMM . SO THAT THIS IS WHERE YOU OH WAIT, GO AHEAD. YEAH, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU PROPOSED IT. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING, YES. UM, OF COURSE, INITIALLY IT WAS BECAUSE, UH, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE AROUND THE AREA. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT THE POLES ARE KIND OF LIKE NEEDING TOWARDS THAT LITTLE WALL THAT IT'S OVER THERE ON, ON, ON THE SIDEWALK. UM, BACK AGAIN, WE DISCUSS IT AND, AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THE BEST WE CAN DO IS LIKE, MOVE IT TOWARDS THAT SIDE OF 65TH STREET, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHICH IS, IF YOU NOTICE ON THIS IS, UM, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, THAT'S 65TH STREET IN THERE. AND WE CAN, I THINK THERE'S SOME, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING IN THERE, BUT THERE'S SOME PALM TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AROUND THAT AREA THAT WE CAN JUST ACCOMMODATE OUR NODE IN THERE. BUT LIKE, AGAIN, OUR ONLY ISSUE IS THAT THAT STREET IT'S SHOWING AS CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A VERSUS WHAT, WHO OWNS THE OTHER PROPERTY? WHAT OTHER [03:30:01] PROPERTIES WHERE YOU HAVE IT IN THE, IN THE SIDEWALK? I, I WAS GONNA, IT'S, IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. OUR, OUR INSTALLATIONS, EVERYTHING IS ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN ACCORDANCE TO STATE STATUE 8 3 3 4, 4 7 THAT ALLOW US TO INSTALL ANY, UH, WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT WHERE WE WERE INITIALLY, IT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY BASICALLY. CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE JUST 'CAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ANOTHER LOCATION THAT IS SAME THING THAT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME. THIS ONE? YEAH. WELL, WHERE YOU SHOWED THE POLE ON THE NEXT TO THE WALL. THIS ONE, THAT ONE. WHY WOULD, WHY WOULD YOU PUT THE POLE ON THE SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF IN THE SWALE WHERE IT'S NOT BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK? BECAUSE IN ACCORDANCE TO THEIR, WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED IS WE HAVE TO PUT IT ONLINE WITH THE OTHER POLES. IF YOU NOTICE THE OTHER POLE IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S THE SAME AS THAT'S WHO, WHOSE RULE IS THAT NO, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE, WE ARE. RE WE, WE, THE, WHAT I SAW WAS THE POLE. THE LIGHTS WERE CLOSER TO THE, TO THE FRONT OF THE CURB. NO, IT MAKES ME CRAZY. 'CAUSE I SEE THIS ALL OVER THE CITY WHERE THERE'S POLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF IN SWALES THAT ARE GRASS. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD WE DO THAT? WE, WE HAVE INSTALLED, IF, IF YOU NOTICE ALL AROUND THE, THE, THE CITY. ANYHOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THEM ARE OURS, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE IN HERE. YES. WE HAVE MOVED THEM. LIKE IN THIS CASE, LIKE WHERE THE LOCATION IS TO THE SWELL AREA. YEAH. THAT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF COURSE IT IT IT GIVES YOU MORE SPACE THE YEAH. FOR A D REGULATIONS. YEAH. THAT'S ALL, THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS MY BIGGEST THING WITH THIS WHOLE THING IS WHEREVER THERE'S A SWALE, THEY SHOULD BE IN THE SWALE AND NOT ON THE SIDEWALK. THAT, THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ONE IN 600 ALTON, WHICH IS THAT IT MOVED TO THE SWALE. THIS ONE, I I, FROM WHERE THEY WERE, THEY SEEMED A LITTLE TOO FAR FROM THAT SWALE. BUT IF THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT OPTION. WELL WE HAVE, WE FOR IT TO BE LOCATED IN THAT SWALE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. DO YOU PREFER TO NOT BE IN THIS WHALE BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF A CAR HITTING? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME, MY NAME IS J GONZALEZ WITH CROWN CROSS AL. IT'S, UH, 34 70 NORTHWEST 32ND AVENUE DRIVE. UH, WE DO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY. UH, PREVIOUSLY WE WERE REQUESTED TO ADVANTAGE WITH THE OTHER BOLTS. AND THAT'S WAY WE PRESENTED THAT WAY THAT'S, WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, TO THE SWELL TO WHEREVER THE CITY ALLOWS US TO, TO INSTALL IT. UH, IN THIS CASE, YEAH, IT WILL BE PROBABLY BETTER TO, TO TO, TO LET PEDESTRIAN WALK UP OVER THERE. UH, YEAH, WE CAN DO IT THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT, I WONDER IF WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU WOULD MAYBE TAKE A STEP BACK AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE POLLS? ABOUT YEAH. THE DIMENSIONS, THE SIZE. 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND COLOR A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, OF COURSE, FOR THE SURROUNDING, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF, OF THE PLACEMENT. OKAY. SO YOU WANT EXPLAIN OR YOU WANT ME. OKAY. UH, WELL USUALLY, UH, THIS IS A 14 INCHES POLE, UH, THAT, UH, WE ALWAYS PLACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO INSTALL. UH, IN THIS CASE, MIAMI BEACH HAS LIKE A DIFFERENT POLE TO OTHER CITIES BECAUSE TO, UH, TO LIKE A, GIVE IT LIKE A BETTER VIEW, WE HIDE ALL THE EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE POLE. SO YOU ONLY SEE THE POLE ITSELF. UM, WE USUALLY PLACE IT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE SIDEWALK SOMETIMES DEPENDING OF WHERE THE OTHER POLES ARE LOCATED. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, UH, UH, RIGHT BY THE ROAD OR, UH, ON THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK DEPENDING OF THE, OF THE AREA. BUT WE PREFER AS USUAL, YOU KNOW, IN CASE LIKE THIS TO DO IT ON THE SWAB BECAUSE TO LET THE RESIDENT WALK, BUT IT WILL DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, HOW ARE THE OTHER POLES LOCATED THERE? BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE MINOR MOVES, WE ARE TOTALLY ABLE TO DO IT. AND THEN, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE POLE? I SAW THAT IT'S ABOUT 38 FEET TALL. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT THE DIAMETER? IT'S 14 INCHES. 14 INCHES, OKAY. MM-HMM . AND IT DOES IT PAPER OR IT'S JUST, IT'S USUALLY FOR 10 INCHES. UH, FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO 30, I WILL SAY AROUND 30. THEN IT, IT, IT WIDEN, UH, PROBABLY ONE OR TWO INCHES MORE, UH, TO THE TOP, DEPENDING OF THE, SO SMALLER DEVIATION FROM THE DESIGN, BUT IT'S ALMOST TO THE VIEW, ALMOST THE SAME, JUST THE SAME, UH, THE SAME TOOTH ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO THE TOP. AND THEN STAFF HAD NOTED SOME CONDITIONS ABOUT INTEGRATING. CAN SAY THESE POLES ALSO BE USED FOR LIGHTING OR OTHER USES, OR IS IT VERY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COMPONENTS IN IT FOR YOUR TECHNOLOGY? THE, THE POLES, ITS ITSELF, LIKE HE SAYS, EVERYTHING, ALL EQUIPMENT, ANTENNAS OR WHATEVER ARE INSIDE THE POLE. IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHICH WE HAD DONE BEFORE, WE ARE REPLACING, LET'S SAY A LIGHT POLE, A CITY LIGHT POLE WITH ONE OF OUR POLES. AND IF IT HAS THE LIGHT, WE WILL INCLUDE THE LIGHT ON IT. IF IT DOESN'T, LIKE IN THIS CASE, PROBABLY THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT REPLACING A POLE, WE'RE JUST INSTALLING A NEW ONE. THEN OF COURSE THERE'S NO LIGHT, [03:35:01] NO NEED FOR A LIGHT ITSELF. UM, BUT YES, WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE. WE HAVE INSTALLED LIGHT, LIGHT INTEGRATED, REPLACE LIGHT POLES WITH OUR POLES, BUT WITH A LIGHT NOT. AND THEY COME IN DIFFERENT COLORS, RIGHT? YES, WE HAVE. SO WHY BLACK? NO, IT, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT IS ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IF YOU HAVE BLACK POLES, WE'LL PAINT THE BLACK, BUT EVERYTHING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE ALUMINUM OR WHITE PALM TREES. SO WHY WOULD THE BLACK POLE BE PUT THERE? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S THE WAY THEY, THEY PUT IT IN THERE, BUT TECHNICALLY WE HAVE A PALETTE OF COLORS THAT WE HAVE ALSO SET UP IN, IN OUR THINGS. AND THERE'S AVAR WAY, VARIETY OF COLORS ITSELF. UH, WE HAVE BLACK, WE GOT GRAY. WE HAVE GREEN. GREEN. YOU HAVE ALUMINUM THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK ALUMINUM LIKE IS AND, AND, AND FOR YOUR THING, THESE ARE POWDER COATED POLES THAT ARE TO WITHSTAND THE, IN INCREMENTS OF THE WEATHER OF MIAMI BEACH. ANYHOW, WHAT, UH, THE, UM, EQUIPMENT THAT'S INSIDE, HOW BIG DOES, IS THAT EQUIPMENT? HOW MUCH SPACE OF THE POLE DOES IT OCCUPY? IS IT RANGE FROM BETWEEN SIX INCHES AND I WILL SAY 12 INCHES, UH, WIDE AND B BETWEEN, UH, EIGHT TO 14 INCHES, UH, HEIGHT. SO, UM, CURRENTLY IN MIAMI BEACH, UM, WE HAVE LIGHT POLES ALL OVER COLLINS AVENUE. MM-HMM . THAT ARE ALUMINUM, AT LEAST IN THE UPPER PART OF COLLINS AVENUE. IT VARIES AS YOU CHANGE THE AREA. UM, BUT WE BASICALLY HAVE LIGHT POLES EVERYWHERE ON A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. MM-HMM . WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE ELECTRICAL WOODEN POLES OR CEMENT POLES THAT CARRY NOT JUST THE TRANSFORMERS FOR FPL, BUT THEY ALSO CARRY THE LINES AND EQUIPMENT FOR BREEZE LINE FOR AT AND T. WHY CAN'T THIS EQUIPMENT BE ON AN EXISTING POLE, BE IT AN FPL POLE, I'LL CALL IT, OR AN EXISTING LIGHT POLE? WHY DO WE NEED TO ADD MORE POLES? THE PROBLEM WITH THE USING EXISTING POLE ARE THE LIMITATIONS. SO ADDING ELEMENTS TO SERVE WIRELESS FACILITY USING EXISTING POLE, YOU WILL NEED, BECAUSE WE HAVE MAINLY TWO, TWO ELEMENTS. THE EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, TRANSMIT THE SIGNAL AND THE ANTENNA THAT, YOU KNOW, ERADIATE THE SIGNALS, UH, EVERYWHERE. SO YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE THE ANTENNAS SOMEWHERE ON THE POLE, WHICH, UH, WILL, WILL BE LIMITED, BUT THE HIGH OF, OF THOSE EXISTING POLE, YOU ARE PLANNING TO USE EXISTING POLE. AND THEN YOU WILL NEED TO H HOUSE THE RADIUS SOMEWHERE ON THE BOTTOM. SO WE WILL BE, UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL, WILL PRAY, UH, REDUCED OR OR DECREASE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE VISIBILITY OR THE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE BOXES TO HOST THE RADIO INSTEAD OF ONLY ONE SLIM POLE. UH, AND FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE ALSO, IT'S, DON'T FORGET THE POWER. SO IF WE INSTALL ON, ON AN ALREADY EXISTING POLE, WE NEED TO PUT A PEDESTAL. SO YOU'RE STILL ADDING MORE FURNITURE TO THE SACK ANYHOW, BECAUSE WE STILL NEED THE, UH, METER CAN, WHERE WE CAN SUPPLY POWER TO THE, UH, TO THE ANTENNAS OR THE EQUIP ITSELF. THE LIGHT POLES ALREADY HAVE POWER AVAILABLE AT THE BASE. OH, YES. BUT THAT'S NO, BUT, BUT THE LIGHT BULB, WE, SORRY, WE, WE TRIED THAT BEFORE. SO THE, ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THAT THOSE LIGHT POLE ARE MEANT ONLY USED FOR THE LIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO ADD ELEMENTS TO THAT POLE, YOU WILL AFFECT THE, THE, THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS OF, OF THE POLE. AND IT WILL, IT WON'T HOLD THE, THE, THE CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, TO ADD ELEMENTS AND BE SAFE, UH, TO, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE WIND SPEED HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA. SO YOU WILL NEED, IT WILL BE MANDATORY TO REPLACE THE POLICY. YOU WANT TO USE IT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ALL THE NEW LOAD THAT THEY, THAT YOU WILL BE ADDING. THAT WHY IT IS SAFER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I GUESS MORE STANDARDIZED TO INSTALL A, A, A FACILITY THAT IS BEING, YOU KNOW, ALREADY INSTALLED AND BEING APPROVED BEFORE RED CITY. SO THE CITY HAS AN AGREEMENT THAT IT, I'LL CALL IT AN AGREEMENT, BUT, UM, IT'S SIMILAR TO AN AGREEMENT. AND I THINK LEGAL AND MAYBE ROGELIO KNOWS ABOUT IT, WHERE, UM, ONLY CERTAIN COMPANIES CAN COME IN TO PROVIDE, UM, INTERNET. UM, AND, UM, WHAT ELSE? UH, CABLE, UM, AND THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE WITH BREEZE LINE, UM, AT AND T, WHICH COULD INCLUDE U-VERSE AND DIRECTV. AND THERE'S A THIRD ONE THAT'S USED FOR, BUT ONLY AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL. UM, AND IT INCLUDES INTERNET. SO IS THIS A FOURTH ENTITY THAT WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH? SO THIS IS NOT, UH, A, A, A COMPANY THAT WE [03:40:01] ARE CONTRACTING WITH FOR THESE PARTICULAR POLLS, UM, UNDER STATE LAW, AND PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF AMENDMENTS BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN 2017 AND 2019, UH, COMPANIES LIKE CROWN CASTLE HAVE A RIGHT TO PLACE SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH CROWN CASTLE, LIKE FOR OUR OWN PROPERTY, BUT THERE'S NO AGREEMENT REQUIRED FOR CROWN CASTLE TO PLACE A, UH, A SMALL WIRELESS FACILITY IN A RIGHT OF WAY. SO IF ANOTHER COMPANY OR FIVE OTHER COMPANIES COME TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH UNDER THIS NEW STATE LAW FROM 2017 19, THEY COULD BASICALLY PUT POWER POLES OR POLES LIKE THIS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH THE APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW. IN, IN THEORY, THERE, THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE COMPANIES IN, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE SAME STRETCHES OF RIGHT OF WAY. UM, BUT THE REVIEW OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS, LET'S SAY THAT THE, THE APPLICANT IN THIS INSTANCE HAS CONSENTED TO THE REVIEW OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD BY SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION. SO WE'RE LIMITED AS TO THE DESIGN OF THE POLE, THE COLOR OF THE POLE, THE LOCATION OF THE POLE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO? AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, EV EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING POWER POLES THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW. WE APPROVE THIS. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HAVING FIVE MORE APPLICATIONS FROM FIVE OTHER COMPANIES IN 2026. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROLIFERATION OF THESE POLLS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO REPLACE THESE WOODEN POLES THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH BETTER QUALITY CEMENT POLES FOR FPL. WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE SURPLUS SIGNAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER ON, ON, ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHAT ARE WE GETTING OURSELVES INTO? SO, IN, IN, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE, YES, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT OTHER COMPANIES WILL SEEK TO PLACE POLLS, UH, IN THE SAME AREA AS AN EXISTING POLL OR A POLL THAT THE BOARD APPROVES TODAY. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I THINK THE APPLICANT COULD SPEAK MORE TO THIS, IS THAT WITH CROWN CASTLE IN PARTICULAR, IS CROWN CASTLE HAS SPACE FOR MULTIPLE NETWORK PROVIDERS ON ONE POLE. IS THAT, IS THAT STILL THE CASE? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. WE CAN SUPPORT UP TO THREE CUSTOMER AT THE SAME POLL ON EACH POLE. EACH POLE. AND THIS IS FOR INTERNET, WHICH ALSO IS AVAILABLE WIRELESS CELLULAR SYSTEM. IT'S WIRELESS. WIRELESS CELLULAR, YES. CELLULAR SYSTEM. WIRELESS. CELLULAR. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US NOW AS A CITY. SO HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM THE WIRELESS CONNECTION THAT WE NOW ENJOY IN THIS CITY? OKAY, SO LET ME, LET ME, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, IF I MAY INTERRUPT, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. OKAY. RECENTLY YOU HAVE THE ART BASES IN HERE. YOU'RE ASKING FOR 50, 60, 70,000 PEOPLE TO BE IN THERE TAKING PICTURES AND MOM HERE WHERE I AM OR WHATEVER. WELL, THAT PERSON ITSELF WANTS A RELIABLE INTERNET OR WHATEVER, SO YOU CAN TRANSMIT THAT SIGNAL TO YOUR MOM OR ANY PARENTS FRIENDS OR WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT WE COME IN WITH. THE SMALL CELLS. THE SMALL CELL STANDS TO SIGNALS AND SEND THAT OVER, BRINGS IT OVER, RECEIVE YOUR MESSAGE AND SEND YOUR MESSAGE OR WHATEVER. WHY? BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE BIG TOWERS THAT YOU SEE ALL AROUND ANYWHERE. AND IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT THOSE SIGNALS ARE RECEIVING ON THOSE TOWER AND PUT IT IN ON THESE SMALL CELLS. THAT'S WHY, LIKE HE SAYS, OUR SMALL CELLS ARE BASICALLY LIMITED AREA, NOT NOT MILE AWAY AREAS, IT'S JUST 300, 400 FEET AT THE MOST, BUT IT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR WHATEVER, IT'S ABOUT THOSE 300, 400 FEET, THEY'LL BE ABLE THEN TO RECEIVE AND SEND SIGNALS APPROPRIATELY. UM, IT'S, IT'S WAY DIFFERENT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SOMETIMES PROBABLY, LIKE YOU SAID, WE STARTED PROBABLY 17 OR 16, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S, IT'S BEEN YEARS, BUT IT'S BEEN WORKING. AND, AND, AND, AND AS YOU ARE HEARD, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GOT, WE STARTED WITH LTE 5G AND NOW THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SIX G AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WELL, WE ARE THE VANGUARD OF THAT. AND WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT IT'S UP TO. NOW. YOU WANT YOUR CITIZENS TO BE COMMUNICATING ALL THE TIME. AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN. WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, ADD THESE, LIKE YOU SAID, ON AREAS WHERE OUR, OUR CARRIERS OR WHATEVER DECIDED, HEY, WE HAVE A LOW SIGNAL IN HERE, SO WE WON'T INCREASE THIS SIGNAL. SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE? UM, ALL OF US HERE AS WIRELESS CARRIERS ON OUR CELL PHONE MM-HMM . [03:45:01] AND OUR IPADS, UM, INSTEAD OF USING AT AND T OR WHOEVER THEY MAY USE, THEY CAN NOW ALSO HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE, WHICH WOULD BE CROWN. NO, WE ARE, WE ARE, WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR ALL OF THEM FOR, UH, AT AND T T-MOBILE. VERIZON. OKAY. SO WE EXPAND THEIR CAPACITY AND IT ALL ADDING TO, UH, TO WHAT SIDE IT IS NOT ONLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAPACITY, IT'S NOT ONLY TO LET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UM, SEARCH FASTER OR DOWNLOAD, UPLOAD FACTORY INFORMATION. IT'S ALSO, WE AS, UH, ENGINEERS, WE, UM, DESIGN FOR, FOR THE WORST SCENARIO. WHAT IS THE WORST SCENARIO WHEN YOU HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE, 20,000 PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, REQUESTING A SERVICE. AND THE SERVICE NEED TO BE AVAILABLE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPEN WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THERE IS A CHAOS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE FIRST THING THAT THAT HAPPEN IS THE LINES GET CONGESTED. SO THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HELP THAT IS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PUT CLOSER THOSE ANTENNAS TO THE PEOPLE AND TO THOSE AREAS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT CAN GET CONGESTED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INITIALLY IS BECAUSE TO, TO PROVIDE A, A FASTER SERVICE, A BETTER, A BETTER SERVICE. BUT, BUT THE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY, IT'S, IT WILL LET PEOPLE BE SAFER BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE THE, THE RESOURCE AVAILABLE WHEN MANY, MANY PEOPLE REQUEST THE SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME. SO I KNOW THAT WE HAD AND STILL HAVE, UH, RADIO TOWERS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THEM. UH, AND THEIR ANTENNAS, RADIO ANTENNAS, OR I'LL CALL 'EM RADIO ANTENNAS, BUT WE HAVE ANTENNAS THAT BELONG TO THE CITY AND TO OTHER PROVIDERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY OR THE STATE'S RIGHT OF WAY, SUCH AS COLLINS AVENUE. THEY ARE PLACED ON THE TOP OF CERTAIN BUILDINGS, DESIGNATED BUILDINGS. I RECALL TOWER 41 ON, UH, PINE TREE AND 41ST STREET HAS AN ANTENNA UP ON THE TOP ARE THE, AND THE, AND YET NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT VISIBLE. ARE YOU ALL NOT, UH, UM, ABLE TO PROVIDE YOUR NODE ON ONE OF THOSE ON DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY ON THE ROOF AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO PAY A RENT TO THAT BUILDING. IT DOESN'T COME FOR FREE. IT IS WHAT I MEAN. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU IMAGINE LIKE AN UMBRELLA WHEN YOU ARE TRANSMITTING THE CENTER FROM A, YOU KNOW, FROM A SPACE YOU ARE COVERING SO MANY AREAS AND THAT MANY AREAS WILL GET CONGESTED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SO MANY PEOPLE REQUESTING A SERVICE, A CERTAIN POINT. IMAGINE YOU HAVE ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE BIG BUILDING ING THE CIGNA, AND YOU HAVE, UH, MAYBE THE, THE CONVENTION CENTER, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THAT COVERAGE. IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPEN AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND TOO MANY PEOPLE REQUEST THE SERVICE HERE, ALL THOSE PEOPLE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER WON'T HAVE, THE CIGNA WON'T HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO TO, TO REQUEST THE SERVICES BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSER TO ANTENNA WILL TAKE THOSE RESOURCES FROM THEM. SO THAT'S, BUT THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE QUESTION I'M ASKING. WHY CAN'T YOU PUT THE NODES ON TOP OF BUILDINGS STRATEGICALLY WHERE YOU NEED THEM? BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON 69, 70 FIRST STREET AND COLLINS ON 11TH. UM, AND ON NORMANDY DRIVE ON, OH, THEY'RE ALL SECOND STREET. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOFTOPS. YES, BUT, BUT, BUT THE, YEAH, ROOFTOPS, THE MAIN REASON THAT, THAT, UH, THAT I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO INDICATE IS THAT ANTENNA NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC, NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THE AREAS THAT GET CONGESTED. SO CAN'T YOU FIND A BUILDING THERE'S, OR FULL BUILDINGS? WE PROBABLY NO, NO, NO. AM I CORRECT? IT'S ONLY A 300 FEET RADIUS, RIGHT? IT'S BETWEEN 300 OR 400 FEET, I GUESS IS YOUR QUESTION. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? YES. AND WHY CAN'T YOU PUT IT ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE WITHIN THAT 300 SQUARE, YOU KNOW, UH, RADIUS, UH, I GUESS THE, IN IN SUMMARY, IT IS NOT EFFICIENT. SO WE PROBABLY, WE CAN GO ON MANY, MANY REASONS, BUT IT'S NOT EFFICIENT WHEN FIRST YOU WILL, YOU WILL BE, UH, TOO HIGH FROM PEOPLE. AND THE SIGNAL, THE, THE, THE HIGHER YOU GO, THE SPREAD IT GETS AND THE HIGHER. SO WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MANY SIGNALS IN THE SAME AREA, IT GETS INTERFERED EACH OTHER. SO THAT'S WHY THE CLOSER YOU, YOU ARE TO THE GROUND, YOU ARE, YOU HAVE LIKE A, YOU ARE, UH, UM, YOUR UMBRELLA IS, IS GETTING SMALLER, SO YOU ARE COVERING HOTSPOT. SO GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO DID YOU INVESTIGATE BUILDINGS THAT DID NOT HAVE THE HEIGHT THAT WOULD CAUSE AN INTERFERENCE IN ALL THESE AREAS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, DURING OUR BASEL SUPER BOWL BOAT SHOW, UM, ALL THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT WE HAVE YEAR ROUND, DID ANYBODY HERE LOSE INTERNET [03:50:01] THAT LIVES ON MIAMI BEACH? WE DIDN'T. SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPROVE OUR LIFE? UM, AND ALSO WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING IS TO PUT A POLE OF A 14 INCH DIAMETER, RIGHT? UM, FORGETTING THE HEIGHT ON A SIDEWALK THAT HAS A FIVE FOOT, SHOULD HAVE A FIVE FOOT DEPTH FOR A, TO MEET A DA IS THAT INTERFERING WITH A FIVE FOOT A DA REQUIREMENT? A DA REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE 36 INCHES, MA'AM. SO ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S 36. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S THE POLLUTION OF ALL THESE POLES. AND FOR EXAMPLE, UM, FPL DOES NOT WANNA PUT CERTAIN EQUIPMENT ON SWAYS. WHY? 'CAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF CARS HITTING IT AND CAUSING ACCIDENTS. SO I, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU ASKED, UH, A WHILE AGO ABOUT IF WE WERE AFRAID OF PUTTING A POLE ON THE SWELL OR WHATEVER, WE DON'T, I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE IT ANYHOW. WE HAVE PUT, YOU KNOW, REMOVE IT FROM LIKE, LIKE I SAID ON THIS CASE, LIKE WHERE THAT AREA AND IF YOU WANT TOWARDS WHERE THE PALM TREES ARE, WE DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, UNFORTUNATELY. WE JUST FOLLOW ORDERS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE BOARD IS TELLING US THAT WE HAVE ON HAVE TO BE ONLINE WITH THE POLLS THAT ARE ON THAT SECTION. SO, OF COURSE, BUT IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY YOU ANYHOW, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WANNA MOVE FROM THE OUT OF THE LINE OF POLES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THAT SIDEWALK AND YOU WANNA PUT IT ON THE SWELL AREA WHERE THE GRASSY AREA, WE DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED. SO IN OTHER WORDS, DOESN'T COME DOWN WHEN WE SUBMIT FOR A PERMIT. DOESN'T TELL US WHAT, AND YOU PUT IT BACK THERE, WE CAN, THIS I YOU'VE GONE THROUGH OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS ALLOWED. WHAT, BEFORE GOING TO PLANNING THE INSTALLATION OF THESE NOTES? NO, WE HAVEN'T TOLD MANY. THERE'S MANY, MANY, MANY POLICY INSTALLED. YOU ARE JUST ADDING NO, NO, NO. I'M ASKING DID YOU VISIT OTHER, ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THESE POLLS? OTHER THAN PLANNING? WE, WE ADDED PUBLIC WORKS AS REVIEWERS TO THE, TO THE WORKFLOW FOR THESE APPLICATIONS. BUT THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET? NO, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE. OKAY. THEY'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN ONCE THEY COME IN FOR A FORMAL BUILDING PERMIT IT REVIEW. BUT WE HAD AT PUBLIC WORKS, UM, UM, AS A REVIEWER FOR, FOR THESE ALL THESE PLANNED REVIEW AND IT REVIEWED IT AS WELL. WE DON'T HAVE IT AS A, AS A PLAN REVIEWER. OKAY. WAIT, AKIEL, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR, I ALSO REALIZED TOO, THAT WE DIDN'T DO THE PUBLIC 'CAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION MELDED INTO OUR QUESTIONS. SO DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I HAD ONE QUESTION. OKAY. I'VE, I'VE SEEN CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO MIMIC TREES WITH BRANCHES AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE TRUNKS AND COLORING. THE MIMIC LOOKS A TREE. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THESE POLES, MAKE THEM LOOK, MAKE LIKE A PALM TREE OR MORE NATURAL IN NATURE RATHER THAN METAL TOOL? YES. THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, YES, THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES OF POLES OR WHATEVER. LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THEM LOOKING LIKE PINE TREES, OTHER LOOKS LIKE PALM TREES OR WHATEVER. YEAH. AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S, UM, YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE INTRODUCING SMALL CELLS IN THE, UH, IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, WE SAT DOWN WITH, UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS THE PREVIOUS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WE CAME WITH DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND, AND AT THE END, THIS IS A DESIGN THAT THEY PICK. SO OF COURSE FOR US IT'S KIND OF ANYWHERE THAT YOU SEE IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME STANDARD SIZE, EXCEPT FOR COURSE THE COLOR. YEAH. I, THIS SEEMS CRAZY. I'M JUST GONNA, 'CAUSE I, THIS COULD GO ON ALL DAY. I WOULD SAY FOR ME, I WOULD WANT THE POLES NOT ON THE SIDEWALK, ON THE SWALES. WHEREVER, WHEREVER THEY ARE, PUT 'EM ON THE SWALES AND DO THEM IN STAINLESS BECAUSE IT BLACK STICKS OUT. WHITE PEEL STAINLESS IS A NORMAL. LIKE I BEFORE WE WILL PAINT IT IN ACCORDANCE TO WHATEVER IT IS ON THAT. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WOULD SAY. THIS IS INSANE. YOU HAVE WHITE POSTS. WE'LL PAINT IT WHITE. YOU HAVE GRAY POSTS. WE'LL PAINT IT GRAY. THEY HAVE BLACK POSTS. WE'LL PAINT IT BLACK. OKAY. UM, ADAM, DID YOU HAVE A, I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS, LIKE STATE SAYS THESE POLES ARE ALLOWED, RIGHT? ALLOWED WITH NO, WHATEVER CHOICE IN THE MATTER. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO. THEY, THEY ARE HELPING OUT SERVICE AND THESE GUYS ARE NOT GONNA GO AND TO EACH BUILDING OWNER AND PUT A $2,500 A MONTH ANTENNA ON TOP OF EACH BUILDING TO DO THIS. AND SO WE SHOULD ONLY BE TALKING ABOUT COLOR. I'M KIND OF FOLLOWING SCOTT AND GETTING IT OFF THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THAT SEEMS STUPID. THAT'S IT. OKAY. UM, UNLESS WE WANNA SQUASH IT AND NOT, NOT IF WE SAY NO, THEN THEY, MAYBE THEY CAN'T PUT THE POLLS UP. [03:55:01] I WANNA GO BACK, UM, IS THERE ANY MORE STRAIGHT INFORMATION TO CONVEY? BECAUSE I DO WANNA OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION, WHICH WE SKIPPED A LITTLE BIT. NO, I FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? YEAH, WE HAVE TWO HANDS RAISED ONLINE. OKAY. HANG ON. RO OH, OH, SORRY. ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES AS TO ANY OF THE APPLICATIONS IN THIS ITEM? NO. OKAY. NO. OKAY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR HANDS RAISED. UM, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, SO THE FIRST PERSON IS CARLOS PERZA. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR, UH, LETTING ME SPEAK AGAIN. UM, I, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK THIS IS SORT OF LIKE BEING SAID BY, BY SOME OF YOU. I, I THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THE PLACE, YOU KNOW, THESE POLLS, IF, IF WE MOVE THEM FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE MANY SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE A LIGHT POLE, UM, UH, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT POLE, UH, STOP SIGN, ET CETERA. AND THEY'RE NOT LYING IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF SOMEBODY IS HANDICAPPED OR SOMEBODY HAS TO USE A WHEELCHAIR, THEY ALMOST CAN'T GET PAST THEM AND THEY HAVE TO WAVE AROUND THE SIGN THE POLE, ET CETERA. SO, I, I MEAN, I'M FORTUNATE I'M NOT HANDICAPPED, BUT I, I FEEL BAD FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO USE A WHEELCHAIR BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO NAVIGATE, UM, ALL THESE FAULTS AND SIGNS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JANE KRUPP. JANE, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. UM, JANE REPP 1390 OCEAN DRIVE. UM, I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU ALL WITH CROWN CASTLE AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING A POLE SIX INCHES FROM, OR 12 INCHES FROM MANY PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS, WHICH NOW EXISTS. SO WHEN WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE INTENDING TO, UM, PUT THESE POLES ON 14TH STREET AND OCEAN DRIVE ON THE, IN THE 100 BLOCK, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE LOCATIONS AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH CROWN CASTLE AS TO THEIR PLACEMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING PLACED. WE ARE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE AS TO WHERE THEY CAN GO. AND SO WE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS. CAN YOU MOVE IT FIVE FEET THIS WAY? CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET? CAN? THEIR RESPONSE BASICALLY WAS NO, THE STATE HAS GIVEN US THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PUT THESE WHEREVER WE WANT, AND LOCAL AUTHORITY HAS NO CONTROL. SO NOW WE ENDED UP, SO I DID SOME RESEARCH TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THESE, THEY'RE MICROWAVES AND THEY'RE AT 40 FEET, THEY HAVE TO BE ALL AT THE SAME HEIGHT IN A GRID, AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. AND THAT'S WHY THEY WON'T MOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GET THEM ON THEIR GRID IN SPECIFIC, UH, LOCATIONS. SO THAT'S LIKE A DEAD ISSUE. THEY HAD, THE STATE HAS GIVEN THEM THE RIGHT TO DO THIS. YOU CAN'T FIGHT THE LOCATION. ALL YOU CAN DO IS TRY TO MODIFY THE MATERIAL OR THE COLOR. AND, UM, WHAT THEY DID HERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY ARE POWDER COATED IN A SILVERY GRAY. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT POWDER COATING ON THE BEACH. IT IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST, UM, FINISH YOU CAN USE, SOMEONE HAD PUT SOME HANDWRITTEN SCOTCH TAPE SIGNS TO ONE OF THE POLES IN FRONT OF OUR BUILDING, AND WHEN THE SCOTCH TAPE WAS REMOVED, IT TOOK OFF THE ENTIRE POWDER COAT STRIP. SO NOW WE HAVE THIS UGLY POLE THAT YOU CAN'T FIX, YOU CAN'T PAINT IT. SO I SUGGEST YOU BEING THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, YOU TALK ABOUT THE FINISH. EITHER MAKE THEM CONCRETE, STAINLESS STEEL, UNPOLISHED, ALUMINUM, ANYTHING BUT POWDER COAT, BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY BAD FINISH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE LOUIS. LOUIS, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BUILDING AT SECOND AND JEFFERSON, AND ONE OF THE NODES THEY WANT TO PLACE IS RIGHT ON, RIGHT. THE, THE DOT SHOWS IT JUST ABOUT ON TOP OF OUR BUILDING. SO I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AN ENTIRE BUILDING HERE. AND THE WHOLE IDEA FROM EVERYONE IN THE BUILDING WAS THEY'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT CANCER AND WHAT THOSE KINDS OF WAVES PRODUCE. AND THEY JUST SAID, MAKE THAT POINT. AND THAT'S OUR POINT. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY THERE'S EVEN A DISCUSSION OR WHY THEY EVEN HAVE TO APPLY EXCEPT FOR THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST DESIGN COLOR, LIKE, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY JUST SAID, AND THE OTHER YOUNG LADY [04:00:01] ON YOUR PANEL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE'RE EVEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION EXCEPT FOR COLOR AND IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT. AND THEN THE YOUNG LADY'S EXPLANATION ON THE PANEL WAS SO ACCURATE. SHE SAID, FIVE MORE COMPANIES. HOW ABOUT 25 MORE COMPANIES? IF EVERYBODY'S ALLOWED TO DO THIS, WHAT'S THE RESTRICTION? IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING I SHOULD GET INTO. WHAT A BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE, YOU CAN'T REFUSE THEM TO PUT THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THE, IN THE PROPERTIES. SO, UM, I THINK THAT BA BASICALLY, UH, I I MEAN, CAN CAN SOMEBODY COMMENT ON THE IDEA OF IS THIS TRULY A DISCUSSION ABOUT COLOR AND DESIGN BECAUSE OUR HANDS ARE TIED 'CAUSE THE STATE ALLOWS IT. CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THAT POINT PLEASE? OKAY, THANK YOU LOUIS. YES, WE WE WILL GET TO THAT. ARE THERE OTHER YES, WE HAVE, UH, JEREMY C JEREMY. UH, HELLO EVERYONE. JEREMY, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. SO MY NAME IS JEREMY SHEMA AND I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN 1141 71ST STREET IN MIAMI BEACH. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERN REGARDING THE INSTALLATION OF THE PORT AND IS BEING PROPOSED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION WAS CHOSEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE NEARBY ALTERNATIVES SUCH, UH, SORRY, SUCH AS A CORNER LIKE AREA PARKING LOT. THEY WILL BE LIKE MUCH HAVING LIKE MUCH LOW LOWER IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. UH, LIKE THE BUILDING I CHOOSE TO BUY, IT'S AN ANOTHER PROPERTY WHEN I PURCHASED SALE LY BECAUSE IT, I VALUE THEIR ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER. I'M, I'M FROM PARIS, UH, AND, UH, REALLY HAVING THIS POLE IN FRONT OF IT, IT WILL BE LIKE A HUGE, UH, PROBLEM FOR ME. AND ALSO THIS BUILDING, IT'S COMMERCIAL, SO I'M ACTUALLY BUILDING LIKE A COMMERCIAL THING ON THE BOTTOM, UH, RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, LIKE HAVING THIS HUGE POLE IN FRONT OF IT WILL BE LIKE A WILL AFFECT REALLY, LIKE IT WILL DAMAGE THE VISUAL APPEAL, APPEAL OF THE PROPERTY AND THE VISIBILITY FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE. UH, SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND ALSO, UH, THE PREVIOUS, UH, GUY WHO SPOKE BEFORE ABOUT THE, THE RADIATION, ET CETERA, AND THIS IS REALLY CONCERNING. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM LIKE WITH, UH, WITH THE INTERNET OR, UH, OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY UH, THEY, UH, THEY WANT TO DO THAT. I MEAN, IT WILL JUST LIKE MAKE IT THE STREET LIKE MORE UGLIER AND UH, AND THE PEDESTRIAN WILL BE REALLY LIKE, UH, SLOWING THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THERE IS NO FOUR AROUND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. ALRIGHT. AND THEN LAST WE HAVE MARINA TETOVA MARINA. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT LOUIS WAS SAYING. I'M A RESIDENT OF A BUILDING NEXT DOOR, 110 WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND I'M, UH, VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE 5G UH, UH, TOWERS POST BEING INSTALLED. THERE IS ENOUGH SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE BY NOW THAT IT'S HIGHLY DAMAGING TO HUMAN BIOLOGY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FREQUENTLY DENIED. SO TO PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT, UH, THERE WAS A RESEARCH STUDY PUBLISHED IN REVIEWS OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IN JUNE, 2024 ON HOW HUMAN HEALTH IS AFFECTED BY RADIATION FROM 5G BASED STATIONS. THE RESULTS SHOW THAT 5G GREATLY INCREASES RADIO, RADIO FREQUENCY, RADIATION EXPOSURE, AND THAT ILL HEALTH OCCURS FAIRLY IMMEDIATELY AFTER 5G IS SWITCHED ON NEAR PEOPLE'S HOMES. THE STUDY ALSO INCLUDED THREE CHILDREN AGED FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS. IN SEVERAL CASES, THE SYMPTOMS WERE SO SEVERE THAT PEOPLE HAD TO ABANDON THEIR HOMES FOR GOOD. THE MOST COMMON AND SEVERE SYMPTOMS WERE SLEEP DISTURBANCE, FATIGUE, HEADACHE, IRRITABILITY, CONCENTRATION PROBLEMS, IMPAIRED SHORT-TERM MEMORY, AND SKIN AND SKIN PROBLEMS. THESE SYMPTOMS CORRESPOND TO THE SYMPTOMS DESCRIBED MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO AS AN EFFECT OF EXPOSURE TO RADIOFREQUENCY OR MICROWAVE RADIATION KNOWN AS MICROWAVE SYNDROME OR RADIOFREQUENCY, UH, SICKNESS. SO I HOPE THE BOARD AGREES THAT WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW PROJECT, UH, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE HEALTH OF THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN, ALL BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS SLIGHTLY IMPROVED CELL CONNECTIVITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO MORE HANDS RAISED. OKAY. UM, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND I, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I GUESS I SHOULD START WITH, ARE YOUR CONCERNS [04:05:01] BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION? I KNOW THEY SAYING ANYTHING THAT CAN BE MOVED TO THE SWALE, THEY WILL MOVE IT TO THE SWALE. SO THAT WAS ANY COLORS. NOW, SCOTT, THE STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED THE COLOR BE THE CLOSEST LIGHT, THE COLOR OF THE CLOSEST LIGHT POLE. DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE AN ALUMINUM OR IT SHOULD IT MATCH AFTER WHAT THAT WOMAN SAID? AND I'VE SEEN THESE HORRIBLE SITUATIONS. UH, THEY SHOULD EITHER BE ALUMINUM OR STAINLESS STEEL OR SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A NATURAL YEAH, THAT'LL BLEND IN RESISTANT THAT YOU CAN CLEAN AND YEAH, SCRAPE IF THERE'S SOMETHING PUT ON THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH STUFF. YEAH, THE POWDER COATING LOOKS GOOD. SEEMS TO BE PROBLEMATIC. YEAH. BUT THE CO YOU KNOW, STAFF HAD MADE THE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, THERE'S STAINLESS STEEL EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. YEAH, LET'S DO IT ALL. AND METAL. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. AND THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHICH I THINK WERE IN THE PRESENTATION WHERE THE LIGHT POLES WERE DARK. IS THAT, YEAH. SO ON IN THE NORMANDY AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIGHT POLES ARE DARK THERE. IS THERE AN OP AN OPTION TO PAINT THE POLE AS OPPOSED TO POWDER COAT THE POLE SO THAT THEY MATCH? AND WOULD YOU BE, WOULD THE BOARD BE AMENABLE TO THAT? YES. IT, IT, I MEAN, BACK AGAIN, IT, IT'S, THE POWDER COATING ACTUALLY IS, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE CLEMENTS OF THE WEATHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN MIAMI BEACH. NOW YOU WANNA PAINT IT, WE'LL PAINT IT AND, AND OF COURSE IN ACCORDANCE TO WHATEVER IT'S, I WOULD STOP RO THE COUNTY DOES BLACK LIGHTS, UH, RED LIGHTS, THEY, THEY'RE PEELING. IT NEVER LOOKS GOOD. IT NEVER LASTS. OKAY. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WE DON'T, UNFORTUNATELY ME FORGET THAT WE ARE IN FLORIDA, WE HAVE DIFFERENT CHANGES OF WEATHER. YEAH. YOU GOT RAIN, STEAM, STICK TO WHATEVER, WIND, STEAM, STEEL, ALUMINUM, LIKE WHATEVER THE, WHERE ARE MIAMI BEACH SHOW, OF COURSE THOSE WINDS WILL BRING THE SAND. WE'LL HIT THOSE POLES. AND OF COURSE THEY'RE PROBABLY, SO ARE YOU AMENABLE, I GUESS TO MAKE THIS THE POLES OUT OF ALUMINUM? I'VE BEEN RE I RECENTLY, OH, I WAS JUST AT THE BAY SHORE, THE NEW BAY SHORE PARK AND THE, AND AND THEY HAD SOME STAINLESS STEEL, YOU KNOW, UM, PAPER TOWEL HOLDERS AND ALL OF THAT. AND ALREADY THEY'RE RUSTING. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IN ALUMINUM IS THE BEST MATERIAL. LET ME REMIND YOU ALSO, I MEAN THE MATERIAL, IT'S PROBABLY WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THE THING IS THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ALSO ON, ON, WHAT WAS THE WORD? YEAH, THE, THE ENGINEER. SO RIGHT. IT'S BASICALLY THE, THE WIND OR WHATEVER. IT HAS TO BE HEAVY, RIGHT? IT HAS TO RESIST ALL THAT. SO THE WINDOW, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HE WAS SAYING WHEN SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT WHY DON'T WE PUT IT ON, ON AN FP AND L POLE? WELL, RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND ITAND THAT IT'S NOT PUTTING ON THE POLE. IT'S THAT WE, SO WHAT WE MATERIAL ARE THE POLES CURRENTLY MADE OF, I, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. BUT WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT AND WE CAN INVESTIGATE WHICH OPTION, YOU KNOW, CAN BE AVAILABLE TO AVOID RUSTING AND TO AVOID DETERIORATION. THEY'RE NOT. RIGHT. SO I, I GUESS IT SEEMED LIKE THE CONCERN WAS THE, THE UPKEEP RELATING TO POWDER COATED WHATEVER MATERIAL IT IS INSIDE, IT'S HEAVY AND THEN IT'S POWDER COATED. BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT THE MATERIAL THE POLE IS MADE OF. IT'S THE FINAL OUTSIDE MATERIAL. DOES THAT SEEM TO BE SO, BUT I THINK IF, IF, UM, YOU GO TO SOMETHING THAT'S LESS THAN POWDER COATING LIKE PAINT MM-HMM . THAT MAY HAVE MORE MAINTENANCE AND LESS DURABILITY. POWDER COATING HAS MORE DURABILITY AND THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IT ON OCEAN DRIVE. MM-HMM . HOW MANY POLES HAVE YOU PLACED ALREADY IN THE CITY? I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT COUNT, BUT I WILL SAY PROBABLY MORE THAN 50. MORE THAN 50. OKAY. WOW. UM, DO, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY OPINION ON THE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS OR WHAT'S THE MOST DURABLE? UM, DURABLE IS, MOST DURABLE IS PROBABLY ALUMINUM, I WOULD SAY. I, I BELIEVE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T BROUGHT IT WITH ME, BUT ON, ON THE PACKAGE THAT I SUBMITTED, THERE'S THE, UH, POST SPECS MM-HMM . AND IT WILL TELL YOU THE MATERIAL OR WHATEVER THAT IT'S IN THERE. SO OF COURSE IT BACK AGAIN COLORS, WE DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH WHATEVER IT IS. BUT, BUT THE MATERIALS RIGHT NOW DOESN'T POPS UP ON MY MIND. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE, WE SUBMITTED ALONG WITH OUR PACKAGES, THE POLE SPECS, WHICH PROBABLY WILL, MIGHT TELL YOU WHAT THE MATERIAL IS FOR THOSE, UH, POLES ITSELF, GOING TO THAT NOW AND THEN, YOU KNOW. WHAT ABOUT, OKAY, SO IT SEEMED LIKE WE RESOLVED, YOU'LL MOVE THE POLES WHEREVER POSSIBLE, WORKING WITH STAFF TO THE MOST, THE ADJACENT SWS. WHAT ABOUT THE CONCERN THAT THAT, THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CALLED IN WHO SAID, RIGHT NOW THIS IS DEAD CENTER IN FRONT OF MY PLACE OF BUSINESS. CAN YOU, THAT WAS THE 1 11 43, 70 FIRST STREET [04:10:02] AND THERE ARE NO SWAYS THERE. THERE'S NO SWELLS THERE, BUT IT COULD BE MOVED. AND WHEN YOU MEAN MOVE, MOVE WHERE? WELL, THAT, I MEAN THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHY AFTER THE HOLY, I CAN HAVE IT IN HERE. I CAN MOVE IT OVER THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT'S NOT DEAD CENTER AND COMPLAIN. AND THEN IF I MOVE IT NEXT DOOR, THEN NEXT DOOR IS GONNA COMPLAIN. AND IF I MOVE IT NEXT DOOR, NEXT DOOR IS GONNA COMPLAIN. USUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE A 100 FEET, UH, ROOM TO, TO MOVE IT. BUT WE ALWAYS WOULD, PEOPLE SOMETIMES THINK THAT WE DON'T LOOK AT IT AND WE, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST, YOU KNOW, TO NOT TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF ANYBODY HOUSES, UH, TO NOT TO, UH, UM, DISRUPT PEOPLE WALKING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO FIND THE BEST WAY TO, TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, UH, AFFECTING PEOPLE. BUT SOMETIMES JUST THERE'S NO OPTION TO, UH, SIDEWALKS ARE TO BE CONGESTED OR THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, AREAS ARE, THERE ARE PRIVATE ROAD. THIS HAVE TO BE ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. SO SOMETIMES IT'S JUST, UH, REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO. WELL IN THIS CASE, I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS YOU PROVIDED AND IT, THERE'S NO HEAD ON SHOT. IT'S JUST FROM THE SIDE. MM-HMM . EVEN IF YOU MOVED IT, SO IT'S NOT IN THE CENTER OF HIS PROPERTY, BUT ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES OR EVEN TO THE SOUTH THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, AN EMPTY PARKING LOT. AND CAN, CAN YOU PLEASE SAY THAT? WHICH ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, 1143 71ST STREET. YEAH. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. OH, THERE'S, RIGHT HERE. WE, YEAH. IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE USING A REINFORC STEEL. IS IS THIS, IS THIS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? 1143? I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR AWAY, . OH. BECAUSE I CAN'T COME IN. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A GYM THERE. YEAH. YES. YEAH. SO FOR EXAMPLE, AND, AND WHAT WILL BE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THIS ONE? WELL, THE, THE MAN WHO'S LEASING THE SITE FOR HIS BUSINESS AT ITS DEAD CENTER IN THE MIDDLE. AND COULD IT BE MOVED TO THE LEFT OR, YOU KNOW, TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO THE CENTER FOR HIS VISIBILITY USING OF THE, I GUESS YES. IF WE, IF WE HAVE, IF THERE IS AN OPTION, WE, WE CAN TOTALLY MOVE, BUT PROBABLY THERE IS, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS PREVENTING ENOUGH TO DO THAT. YEAH. UH, I, I DON'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S IN FRONT OF ANY ENTRANCE OR, OR SOMETHING THAT IS AFFECTING THE, IT'S JUST, IT IS WITHIN THE PROPERTY. AND SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAY, WE TRY TO AVOID THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT MAYBE THERE IS A BIKE RACK OR RIGHT. OR, OR A HIGH RUN OR SOMETHING THAT IS PREVENTING US TO, TO AVOID THAT. RIGHT. BUT, OR A BUS STOP. YEAH. BUT TOTALLY, WE CAN DO IT. IF THERE IS AN OPTION, WE CAN DO IT AND WE WILL DO IT, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE STAFF. WITH THE STAFF. AND YET, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO, FOR STAFF. I'M ASSUMING YOU REVIEW, YOU KNOW, DO YOU GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE, AND WALK THROUGH TO SEE WHAT OTHER OBSTRUCTIONS MIGHT BE? AND THEN DO YOU ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED WHEN I WAS DRIVING AROUND YESTERDAY IS THE POLL, THE FIRST ONE THAT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S 65TH AND COLLINS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY JUST PUT IN, AND IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE PICTURES THIS BIG, WHAT I THINK IS GONNA BE A TRAFFIC SIGN. AND IT'S A BIG, AND THEN THIS IS NOW GONNA GO IN. SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITHIN THE CITY OF COORDINATING ALL THESE DIFFERENT POLLS? ONCE I THINK THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA BE DOING THAT AS PART OF THEIR BUILDING PROGRAM PROCESS. THAT'S WHY WE INITIALLY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE SOME OF THESE POLLS BECAUSE WE FELT THERE WERE, THERE WERE THINGS IN THE WAY AND, AND THAT IT'D BE BETTER, MAYBE MOVE IT OFF. UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER LAYER OF FINE TUNING OF THE LOCATIONS YEAH. BASED ON, YEAH. AND IF, IF I MAY INTERVENE ALSO, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. I, I DEAL WITH CITY OF MIAMI BEACH EVERY SINGLE DAY MM-HMM . AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. ONE OF THE MOST STRICT OR RESTRICTED, UH, ISSUES THAT WE ALSO HAVE IS WHEN MIAMI BEACH BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THAT THEY'RE VERY FOND. IF, IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT IS BUILDING, LIKE YOU SAID, A STREETLIGHT OR WHATEVER, IT'S LIKE YOU CAN'T GO IN THERE. YEAH. PICK ANOTHER PLACE OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, WE, WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE, BUT OF COURSE IT'S THE CITY'S HAVING WORK ON THAT AREA OR WHATEVER, AND THEY TELL US, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT, THEN WE CAN'T DO IT. SO, I MEAN, IT'S, AND THEN IS THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, BUT I'M THINKING, OKAY, THESE ARE INSTALLED. IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE NO CHOICE. THEY HAVE TO BE INSTALLED. WHAT COULD THE CITY LATER COME BACK AND SAY, OH, CAN WE USE YOUR POLE TO ADD A LIGHT? OR HOW, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS BECOMES A PERMANENT PART OF THE CITYSCAPE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWED, WHAT HAPPENS? ALSO, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY BECOMES OUTDATED, YOU KNOW, ARE, IS YOUR COMPANY THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR REMOVING THE POLES, OR WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN? SO USUALLY [04:15:01] TECHNOLOGY CHANGE, I WILL SAY EVERY FIVE TO 10 YEARS MM-HMM . RIGHT NOW, WE WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE OF THE CITY REQUESTED IT. WE'RE REMOVING A LOT OF FAULT THAT ARE NOT BEING USED AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF USED TO USED TO HELP WITH THE C BEAUTIFICATION. UM, WE DO THAT E EVERY TIME THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT AN INSTALLATION IS NOT USING, WE WILL REMOVE IT. UM, THESE TYPE OF FAULT. OH, WAIT. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, SOME OF THESE NODES ALREADY ARE OUT OF DATE AND YOU'RE REMOVING THEM ONES YOU'VE INSTALLED IN THE PAST OR A DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY? NO, NO. UH, THE, THE POLES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING USED, UH, AND IF WE'RE STILL USING IT, WE WILL USE THE POLE OUT OUTSIDE, WILL BE THE SAME USING INTERNALLY WE'LL REPLACE THE ELEMENT, BUT IN, IN FOR SOME REASON THAT IT HAPPENED BEFORE, WE ARE NOT USING A FACILITY ANYMORE. WE ARE OBLIGATED TO, TO REMOVE IT. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT GOES WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT? THAT ALSO GOES, UH, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY YEARS AGO, IT WAS THOSE, UH, CONCRETE POLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE WE JUST INSTALLED THE ANTENNA ATTACHED TO THE, THOSE ARE BEING REMOVED ANYHOW. WE'RE NOT USING THOSE ANYMORE. SO OF COURSE, NOT ONLY THE ANTENNA'S EQUIPMENT, BUT ALSO THE POLE. RIGHT. CABINET, EVERYTHING CABINET, THE ANTENNAS POLE AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WORDS, WE LEAVE IT. OOPS, SORRY. THAT'S THE SAME WAY WE FOUND IT AT THE, AT THIS TYPE OF POLE THAT WE ARE STUDYING RIGHT NOW. I WILL SAY THIS IS THE, THE MORE FUTURE PROOF POLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED MANY, MANY YEARS BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT ARE INSIDE. SO WHATEVER FITS INSIDE, WE CAN OPERATE WITHOUT THE PEOPLE AND CITY NOTICING. OH, NOT NO NOTICING, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT BEING IMPACTED. SO IT IT, IT CAN BE UPGRADED WITHOUT AFFECTING THE, THE LANDSCAPE WITHOUT AFFECTING THE VIEW OF THE, OF THE AREA. UM, WAS THERE, UH, MORE INFO ABOUT THE MATERIALS AND ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS? SO WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE PLANS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE USING IS, UH, STEEL, STAINLESS STEEL. OKAY. AND DOES THAT SEEM LIKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE, EASIEST TO MAINTAIN RUST SPRAY? THEY'RE PAINTING THE, THEY'RE PAINTING THE STAINLESS STEEL, THE, SO THEY HAVE A COLOR PALETTE THAT WAS PROVIDED AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE USING A POWDER COAT, UM, BUT HAVE A SERIES OF ISSUE. BUT THE, UM, MATERIAL IS STAINLESS STEEL. SO THEY COULD BE LEFT IN STAINLESS STEEL THEORETICALLY. YEAH. YEAH. IF THE CITY ALLOWS IT, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MEAN. I DON'T WANNA INSTALL A POLE THAT IS STAINLESS STEELS AND INSTALL COMPLAINTS. HEY, I THINK THEY PROBABLY NOT. THE POLES ARE BLACK. WHY NOT THIS ONE? THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLE. WE DON'T HAVE A POLE HERE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS, LOOKS LIKE IT'S STAINLESS STEEL. THE CITY ALLOWS IT, WE'LL DO IT. WE'LL TELL YOU THAT YEARS BACK, WE HAD PUBLIC TELEPHONES ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. MM-HMM . AND IT WAS A NUISANCE. 'CAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT COMPANIES PLACING THEM IN PLACES WHERE IT INTERFERED WITH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, UH, WITH OTHER SIGNAGE. THEY WEREN'T MAINTAINED. THEY HAD GRAFFITI STICKERS. UM, AND THEY WERE STAINLESS STEEL YOU, UM, AND THEY WEREN'T MAINTAINED. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WILL MAINTAIN THESE POLES? OH, WE'LL MAINTAIN, YES. AND REMOVE THEM WHEN YOU DON'T NEED THEM. I MEAN, WE HAVE RECEIVED, WE RECEIVE COMPLAINTS ALMOST EVERY DAY, UH, TO OUR KNOCK CENTER ABOUT POLES THAT ARE DAMAGED, POLES THAT ARE PROBABLY PEELING OFF OR WHATEVER. SO OF COURSE, THERE'S A TICKET CREATED AND THERE'S A TICKET THAT WILL BE WORKING ON IT TO EITHER FIX THE PROBLEM OR REPLACE IT OR WHATEVER, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS, BUT YES. OKAY. SO HELIO, I THINK THAT THE BOARD WOULD PROBABLY APPROVE THE BEST MAT THE MATERIAL THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ASK THEM. AND THE COLOR, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE AN ALUMINUM, A SILVER COLOR IS THE MOST GONNA BLEND IN. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT A MATERIALS EXPERT. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING WOULD YOU, AS CITY PLANNERS RECOMMEND? SO OUR INITIAL FEELING WAS THAT THEY SHOULD BE PAINTED TO MATCH THE COLOR OF WHAT'S IN THE VICINITY. SO NORTH BEACH, A LOT OF THEM ARE PAINTED BLACK. SO WE FELT THAT THEY SHOULD BE POWDER COATED IN A SIMILAR BLACK MM-HMM . BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING RAISED HERE TODAY, WHICH SORT OF IS CHANGING THE WAY I WAS THINKING THAT IF THIS POWDER COAT, IF SOMEBODY PUTS A SIGN THAT THERE'S A LOST DOG AND THE TAPE COMES OFF, AND NOW THE POWDER COAT STARTS COMING OFF, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE POWDER COAT HAS THE ABILITY TO BE REAPPLIED. YOU CAN'T TOUCH UP POWDER COATING, BUT THE POWDER COATING, IF IT WAS WHAT THEY USED, SHOULDN'T COME OFF WITH A TAPE. RIGHT. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT, IT'S NOT ALUMINUM BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE STRONG ENOUGH, SO IT WON'T PASS A BUILDING PERMIT. I THINK STEEL, STAINLESS STEEL IS A HARDIER METAL. UM, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IF WE HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY ON STREETS SCAPE DESIGN IN DIFFERENT AREAS, WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT STREETS SCAPE DESIGN. MM-HMM . UM, A QUESTION TO LEGAL, I ASSUME, AND I DON'T WANNA ASSUME, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT LEGAL HAS LOOKED INTO THIS AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE LOCATIONS FOR THESE [04:20:01] NODES. THERE'S, YES. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO HOW WOULD YOU, LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD TO HELP YOU? SO IF, IF SO, SO BASIC A DECISION, DO YOU PREFER THEM ALL TO BE IN THEIR BARE COLOR OR TO FOLLOW THE COLORS OF THE, UM, OF THE SURROUNDING VICINITY FOR THE, OF THE, OF THE POLLS IN THE SURROUNDING VICINITY? RIGHT. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. THE SECOND QUESTION IS, OUR DRAFT ORDERS INCLUDE FOR THE FOUR THAT I MENTIONED, WHICH WAS DRB 25, 11, 27 D, RRB 25, 11 30 1D RRB 25, 11 32, AND DRB 25, 11 35. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE LOCATION, WHICH THEY ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH. HMM. UM, SO DO WE WANNA MODIFY THE WAY THAT'S DRAFTED, UM, TO SAY TO, TO THE APPLICANT SHALL EXPLORE LOCATING THE POLES WITHIN THE NEAR SWALE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY WE HAD IT DRAFTED, WHICH WE WERE LOOKING AT MOVING IT AROUND THE CORNER IN SOME CASES, TO, TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE SIDEWALK. BUT THEY'RE INDICATING BY MOVING IT AROUND THE CORNER IN SOME SITUATIONS, THAT PUTS THEM OUTSIDE OF THE, THE RADIUS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO TO COVER. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T WORK. RIGHT. THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK. AND I GUESS I'M MOST CONCERNED TOO, WITH THIS ONE, THE ALTON, THAT THE SIDEWALK ROCK NARROWS. SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S HUGELY PROBLEMATIC. WE, WE WERE WORKING AND WHAT IF WHEN THERE'S NO SWALE, RIGHT? THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE ISSUE IN, IN ALTON ROAD, WE WERE SUGGESTING THAT THEY MOVE IT NORTH WHERE THERE IS A SWALE, THERE'S A VERY LARGE SWALE THERE. UM, BUT THEY'RE SAYING THAT GETS THEM OUT OF THE RADIUS OF, OF THE AREA. THEY WANT TO COVER, THEY WANT TO COVER THE NEW TOWER THAT'S AT FIFTH AND ALTON. UM, AND BY MOVING IT NORTH, THAT PUTS SOME SLIGHTLY, I THINK, TOO FAR AWAY FROM THAT AND ALSO CLOSER TO OTHER TOWERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. AND THERE MAY BE SOME CONFLICTS. RIGHT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY CHOICE THEY'RE LEAVING US IS TO MAKE THE SIDEWALK MORE NARROW, WHICH THEN YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE MAYBE WITH A DA WELL, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH A DA, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY. OH, DEFINITELY. ROGELIO. I, I THINK TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS AND US DECIDE WHERE THE POLE SHOULD BE, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A PUBLIC WORKS JOB. MM-HMM. UM, I, I THINK THE MATERIAL SHOULD BE A DURABLE MATERIAL, BE IT STAINLESS STEEL OR WHATEVER IT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL REQUIRE. AND THEY HAVE USED, I THINK AS FAR AS COLOR FOR ME, I THINK IT SHOULD FOLLOW THE STREETSCAPE OF THAT DISTRICT OR AREA THAT THEY'RE IN, BECAUSE STREETSCAPE DESIGNS HAVE BEEN DONE IN ALL DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY. UM, I THINK THAT WHERE THERE'S A SWALE, THERE WAS MENTIONED GO INTO THE SWALE, BUT IF THERE'S, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, IF THERE'S A LIGHT POLE OR AN FPL POLE ON THE SIDEWALK OR SWALE, EITHER ONE OF THE LOWS LOCATIONS, IS IT MORE FEASIBLE TO SAY, BE ADJACENT IF POSSIBLE, IF IT'S WITHIN THAT 300 FEET RADIUS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE ADJACENT TO THAT POLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A POLE HERE, THEN ANOTHER POLE THERE. SO AT LEAST THEY'RE BUNDLED TOGETHER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO HAVE TO LOOK LIKE LESS OF A POLE POLLUTION? IT, IT COULD BE POSSIBLE. AND, AND AS I'M, I'M GONNA PROBABLY GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON AND, AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING, BUT LET'S SAY I, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT FPNL POLES. WE CANNOT REPLACE NO FPNL POLES. THAT'S OF COURSE. NO, NO, NO. THAT, BUT IF IT'S A CITY POLE, WE HAVE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REPLACE THAT POLE, THEIR POLE WITH OUR POLE. IF IT'S A CITY LIGHT, WE'LL PUT THE LIGHT. IF IT DOESN'T, HAS A LIGHT, WE DON'T PUT THE LIGHT. BUT IF IT'S A CITY POLE, WE CAN DO IT. UNFORTUNATELY, WITH FPL POLES, WE CAN'T. OKAY. YEAH. SO IN WORDS, LIKE YOU SAID, IF, IF THERE'S A CLOSE BY LET'S SAY CITY POLE OR WHATEVER, AND WE WANNA MOVE OVER THERE, AND THE CITY THAT, LET'S SAY PUBLIC WORK SAYS, OKAY, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE AGREE ON THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THAT POLE. WE WANNA WALK, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING REPLACE IT, BUT BE NEXT TO WHATEVER POLE, BE IT AN FPL POLE OR A CITY POLE, BE IT A LIGHT OR WHATEVER, SO THAT THERE ISN'T AS MUCH BE DONE TOO PROLIFERATION OF POLES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. AND BACK AGAIN, I'M THINKING ON THE SAME WAY YOU ARE, IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT A PRO PROLIFERATION OF, OF, OF POLES IN THERE. SO OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ONE POLE AND YOU WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH ONE OF OURS, THAT'S ONE LESS POLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING IN THERE. WELL, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND YOU'VE SAID NO MM-HMM . AND SO NOW HERE WE ARE. SO I PERSONALLY AM OF THE, I MEAN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE COLOR MATERIAL THAT SEEMS TO BE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. AND THE SECOND THING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO DOWN THE LIST, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE [04:25:01] OF ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF HAS MADE. IF THEY SAY LIKE, IN THE 65, 26 THAT IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED, I'M SUPPORTING STAFF, I'M GONNA VOTE TO SUPPORT STAFF, AND THIS SEEMS TO BE BINDING. AND I WOULD HOPE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE BETWEEN THE PLANNING STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS THAT THEY KNOW TOO TO WORK WITH AND CONSOLIDATE THE POLES TO MAKE THEM AS, YOU KNOW, TO MATCH THE COLORS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE WITH THE OTHERS IN THE AREA. YOU KNOW, IF IT MEANS THEY NEED TO WALK THE SIDEWALKS TO DECIDE WHERE THINGS GO, I JUST THINK THIS IS A LONG LIST OF, OF POINTS. AND I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S SORT OF BEYOND WHAT WE USUALLY DO. I MEAN, IT'S SO SPECIFIC IN DETAILED, BUT I DO THINK THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY DOES NEED, AND I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE YOU'VE DONE THIS ALREADY, TO WALK THESE STREETS AND SAY, THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA GO AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA GO. AND I PERSONALLY AM OKAY WITH GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO STAFF. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, ALEX, RESPECTFUL, OF COURSE WE WANT THE TECHNOLOGY TO WORK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT SHOULD BE DEFERRED TO STAFF. ALEX ALVAREZ IS I THINK, THE RIGHT OF WAY MANAGER IN PUBLIC WORKS. SO I THINK THIS WOULD PROBABLY FALL WITHIN HIS PURVIEW. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO DO ANYTHING, BUT WHATEVER. IT'S CERTAINLY, I THINK IT FALLS WITHIN HIS, HIS RESPONSIBILITY. HE, HE REVIEWED THESE, HE WAS OKAY WITH MM-HMM . THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED, HE ACCEPTED THEM. UM, FROM A PUBLIC WORKS POINT OF VIEW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF YEAH. I, I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO NOT JUST BE FROM A FUNCTIONAL PERSPECTIVE. YEAH. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE OF MM-HMM. THE FLOW OF PEOPLE AND HOW THE SIDEWALK AND LACK OF CLUTTER. SO WHICH ARE THE THREE LOCATIONS THAT YOU WERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S THAT PLANNING WAS HAVING A PROBLEM WITH, WAS IT PLANNING OR PLANNING IN PUBLIC WORKS OR JUST PUBLIC? JUST PLANNING. PLANNING. IT WAS THE LOCATIONS LOCATED ALONG COLLINS AVENUE, PRIMARILY IN NORTH BEACH. MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE WAS ONE LOCATION ON ALTON ROAD IN SOUTH BEACH AND SIXTH STREET. SIXTH, YEAH. YEAH. AND WHY? UM, THE, SO THE, THE ONES IN NORTH BEACH, THEY WERE RIGHT ON COLLINS AVENUE. SOME OF THEM WERE, IT SORT OF SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE PEDESTRIAN AREA. SOME OF, WE FELT THAT THEY COULD EITHER BE MOVED AROUND THE CORNER TO A SIDE STREET WHERE THEY WOULD BE LESS MM-HMM . UM, LESS IMPACTFUL. RIGHT. UM, THOUGH I LIKE THE SUGGESTION OF THE SWALE. THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER, BETTER OPTION IN THESE CASES. UM, AND THEN THE ONE IN SOUTH BEACH, WE FELT THAT IT COULD BE MOVED NORTH A LITTLE BIT WHERE THERE IS A SWALE, UM, AND THERE ARE LIGHTS IN THAT SWALE. YEAH. UM, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT, IN THAT CASE, THE APPLICANT'S INDICATING THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA FUNCTION FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR PURPOSES. OKAY. SO LET 'EM COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATE LOCATION. IT'S IRONIC TO ME THAT YOU'RE, IT'S OKAY TO PUT A POLE ON A SIDEWALK NEXT TO A PARK, BUT NOT TAKE 14 INCHES OF A PARK TO KEEP THE SIDEWALK CLEAN. MM-HMM . THAT, THAT MAKES NO SENSE. THE, IIII AGREE WITH YOU. BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PUT 'EM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THEY, THE STATE AUTHORIZED THEM TO PUT IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. THE PARK IS TECHNICALLY NOT PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS. NOT THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION IN GENERAL. YOU KNOW. ARE, ARE THE PARKS OWNED BY THE CITY? ARE WHERE, WHICH ONE SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE ONE ON SIXTH AND ALDEN, THERE'S LITERALLY OH YEAH, YEAH. POWER POLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. OH YEAH. LIGHT POLES. THERE'S A SWALE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SIXTH STREET THAT YOU COULD PUT IT IN, BUT WYATT HAS TO GO ON THAT 30 FEET OF SIDEWALK. THAT'S THE NARROWEST IS STUPID THERE. THERE'S A BIG PARK THERE. THEY PUT PARK BENCHES, BY THE WAY, ON THE SIDEWALK BLOCKING IT VERSUS BACKING IT INTO THE PARK. MM-HMM . YEAH. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S JUST, LET ME, YEAH, I WANNA GO AND ASK THE OTHER, I KNOW MYRA SAID FOR, IN TERMS OF THE COLOR, THAT IT SHOULD BE MATCHED WITH THE POLES ALREADY ON THE SIDEWALK, THE STREET SCAPE FOR THAT AREA. JUST, AND I LIKE EVERY, ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS TO WEIGH IN. SHOULD IT JUST BE THE ALUMINUM SILVER COLOR OR SHOULD IT MATCH WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE STREETS? TO ME, YOU STICK WITH ALUMINUM BECAUSE THE STATE COMES IN AND PUTS ALUMINUM WHEREVER THEY WANT WITH POLES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR STREET SCAPES. ALUMINUM IS CONSISTENT. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT WILL, IT WILL BE EASILY, YOU MEAN SILVER, A SILVER COLOR, WHATEVER THE STAIN BRUSH, STAINLESS STEEL, WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND IT, AND THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA FIND STAINLESS STEEL METAL IN THE CITY. EVERY, I GUARANTEE YOU, EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS IT. YOU HAVE. AND ADAM, I, I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I THINK CONSISTENCY'S BETTER. AND I'LL EVEN ASK THIS, THIS QUESTION TO, TO YOU GUYS. DO WE, WE'RE STUCK WITH THESE, RIGHT? YEAH. IS THERE, I I'M THINKING LIKE IN SOUTH POINT PARK, THERE ARE POLES AND THEY HAVE LIKE, THEY HAVE LIGHTS ON THEM. LIKE THEY HAVE BLUE, ARE THEY BLUE LIGHTS? I'M LIKE, LIGHTS UPLOADED. I DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE STREET LIGHTS ANYWAYS. MY OR PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS. MY [04:30:01] QUESTION IS, IS LIKE, DO WE WANT TO LIKE PUT, PUT A INDICATOR LIGHT? IS THIS SOMETHING TO LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY CELEBRATE, BUT LIKE, IS THERE A, A BLUE LIGHT ON IT FOR CONSISTENCY ON THE TOP OR, OR SOMETHING TO MAKE THIS INSTEAD OF BLENDING IN TO MAKE IT STAND OUT? 'CAUSE I, I'M LOOKING AT A DRAWING THAT'S LIKE THE SITE PLAN. THESE ARE BIG, THE SITE PLAN OF ALL OF COLLINS FROM, FROM ZERO TO 75, LIKE THAT'S, THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE ALL OVER AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER. LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF THE FABRIC NOW, SO, OKAY. SO WE'LL AGREE. THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE BRUSH STAINLESS OR THERE'LL BE POWDER COATED SILVER MM-HMM . BUT DO WE WANT ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU EVER PUT A, A BLUE INDICATOR LIGHT ON THE TOP OF IT? OR A RED, LIKE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS? IS THAT DRAWING TOO MUCH ATTENTION? I'M NOT SAYING I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE, DOES THAT MAKE IT MORE CHEEKY OR, OR I DON'T KNOW. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. RIGHT. IT COULD BE A HYBRID SORT OF MORE DECORATIVE PIECE THAT'S IT'S HERE AS OPPOSED TO JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BLEND IN, RIGHT? LIKE, IS THERE, THEY'RE THEY'RE ENORMOUS. ENORMOUS. AND THEY'RE BIG. AND IS THERE LIKE AN INDICATOR, LIKE IT'S NOT GONNA GET WRAPPED IN LEDS, LIKE DURING THE CHRISTMAS TIME? , I, I'M LIKE, COULD IT COULD ? I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PLAQUE ON IT? I DUNNO. LIGHT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF. AND IS IT, YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED WITH EXISTING LIGHTS, I'M SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE BEING SHOVED THESE THINGS ALL OVER THE CITY, SO YEAH. AND ALL WE CAN DECIDE IS ON COLOR AND AESTHETIC. SO IS THERE ANYTHING DECORATIVE ANY OTHER CITIES YOU'VE BEEN FORCED TO PUT ON THEM? YOU KNOW, OR, OR CAN YOU GO BACK AND DO WHAT HE SAYS, BUT ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, INCORPORATE INTO SOME EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT ARE UP THERE FOR LIGHTS TOWARDS NO, I THINK HE'S SAYING THE OPPOSITE. THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, REALLY MAKE IT PRONOUNCED. BUT YOU HAD SAID THAT THIS DESIGN HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED YEARS AGO. YES. YES. AND THIS IS THE DESIGN AND IF THE CITY WANTS TO, BUT HE SAID DECORATE IT INCORPORATED WITH LIGHTS SOMETIMES. WELL, I WAS THINKING LIKE A BLUE LIGHT ON THE TOP OF IT OR SOMETHING. RIGHT? LIKE NEON, LIKE ON THE PALM TREES ON THE WAY INTO THE TUTTLE. YEAH. LIKE THOSE ARE OUR ANTENNAS. DON'T, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ASK DESIGNERS . YEAH. DON'T GET TOO, DON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET CANCER. RIGHT. LIKE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE, LOOK HOW MANY BEAUTIFUL ONES WE HAVE AROUND THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WOULD BRING THAT UP. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I I CAN RESPECT THAT. YEAH. SKULL. NO, I MEAN I THINK THAT ANYTHING, ANY SORT COLOR UTILITY THAT WE PUT UP SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF SIGNED DECORATIVE ELEMENT. 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE AN AMAZING, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE THING FOR THE CITY. BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE'RE TOO FAR ALONG AT THIS POINT AND YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STREETS THAT THEY'RE GOING ON ARE EITHER STATE OR COUNTY ROADS. HMM. SO THEN IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHANGE THE STREETSCAPE DESIGN THAT THEY'VE APPROVED WITH THE CITY FOR THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW. LIO PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY WOULD KNOW. OKAY. DO WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STATE OR COUNTY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE STREET SCAPE DESIGN? I DON'T KNOW. UM, LAURA, DID YOU HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THE PLANE ALUMINUM OR MATCHING THE LIGHT POLES? I THINK I'M WITH THE PLAIN ALUMINUM. YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH. I DON'T, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED WHY WE'RE EVEN HEARING THIS . BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DESIGN'S ALREADY FINAL YEAH. THAT THEY'RE GOING WHERE THEY'RE GOING. SO I, YEAH, THEY'RE ONLY HERE FROM, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON DO YOU WANNA DO THE ALUMINUM OR GOING WITH THE COLORS OF THE OTHER LIGHTS ON THE STREETS ON THE STREET? ALUMINUM MAKES MOST SENSE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. IT'S MATCH COLORS IF IT'S ON UNTIL IT'S HAVE ALL ALUMINUM. OKAY. UM, SO I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD GET A MOTION GOING. I'M GONNA SUGGEST I THAT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE STAFF IS TO HAVE ALL THE POLES BE THE SAME ALUMINUM SILVER COLOR, UM, AND TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT. I THAT I THINK ALL OF US AGREE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ONES THAT, THAT THE POLES THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT ARE EITHER IN NARROWED SIDEWALKS OR OB, THERE ARE MORE OBSTRUCTION TO HAVE THEM TO BE MOVED. SO, UM, AND I THINK THE DIRECTION TOO IS IF POSSIBLE PUT THEM IN THE SWALES AND OR PARK SPACES AND CAN WE SAY AS FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS POSSIBLE? YEAH, YEAH. POSSIBLE. I MEAN, I WOULD PRIORITIZE RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL AS FAR AS KEEPING THEM AWAY FROM RIGHT. I THINK MOST OF THESE, I MEAN, THERE ARE A FEW, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE IN COMMERCIAL. YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW THAT WERE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MOVING IT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. YOU'RE STILL IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THERE REALLY WE DIDN'T SEE ANY GOOD OPTION THERE. THERE WERE SOME ON COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS [04:35:01] THAT WERE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT WAS LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING FROM THE POINT OF, FROM THE, FROM THEIR SIGHT LINES, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THEIR, OF THEIR SIGHT LINES AND NOT WANTING TO IMPEDE THEIR SIGHT LINES. UM, AND SO WE WERE LOOKING TO MAYBE SHIFT THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO, TO TRY TO AVOID RIGHT. HAVING YOUR BLOCK OF BLOCK A BALCONY OF VIEW FROM A BALCONY BLOCK OF VIEW FROM AN OFFICE BUILDING. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. OKAY. YEAH. NO, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. AND THAT APPLIES TOO TO THE ONE, THAT ONE ON 71ST STREET WHERE THE GENTLEMAN CALLED IN TO SAY, THIS IS BLOCKING THE SIGHT LINE OF MY STORE TO MOVE IT. OKAY. UM, SO WHAT DO WE APPROVE ONE BY ONE? WHAT DOES THIS MOTION NEED TO LOOK LIKE? HMM. I THINK BASED ON THOSE CONDITIONS, I THINK YOU COULD APPROVE THEM ALL IN ONE MOTION. I MEAN, I THINK THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD APPLY TO ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT WOULD, WE WOULD REPLACE OUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION WITH, WITH THIS DIRECTION, WHICH IS TO EXPLORE MOVING THEM INTO SWALES WHERE POSSIBLE. UM, AND, AND AWAY FROM SIGHT LINES. YEAH. UM, SO, AND IF POSSIBLE PARKS, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THAT ONE ON ALTON ROAD SIX AND ALTON IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO GREEN SPACE, THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. IT WOULD SOLVE A LOT IN A LOT OF PLACES. IF YOU COULD MOVE IT INTO, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY COMMISSION, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY AS PROPERTY OWNER TO DECIDE TO ALLOW THE POLE IN THE PARK. UM, BUT IT'S, SINCE IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ASKED THAT YOU'RE ASKING STAFF TO EXPLORE, I THINK IT'S OKAY TO INCLUDE. UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MUCH COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CLUTTER ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY IS SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ACCESSIBILITY, THAT IF IT CAN BE JUST INSIDE, IT'S ONLY 12 FEET THAT IN CERTAIN PLACES, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY THEN THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER OF A PARK, THE BUDDYING SIDEWALK WITHIN A FOOT. I MEAN, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO NOT THAT, THAT, THAT PEOPLE'S ARE AT THAT BUS STOP WAITING ALL THE TIME. SO YOU'RE ALREADY LIKE, HAVE LOST THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK. IT'S IT'S VERY TIGHT RIGHT THERE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I'D RECOMMEND THAT. OKAY. THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. I I, WE WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT LOCATION. SO THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO MOVE IT INTO THE PARKING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR . AND I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND, AND LIKE HE SAYS OR WHATEVER, BUT THE THING IS, IF WE ARE GOING TO THE, LET'S SAY THE CITY PARK TO REQUEST PERMISSION TO INSTALL IN AIR, THAT'S GONNA TAKE QUITE A WHILE TIME. WE ARE WITH THE PURPOSE OF FOR, TO, UH, UH, FOR OUR CLIENT IS, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THEM THE SERVICE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE ARE, WE CAN'T WAIT 1, 2, 3, 4 YEARS UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED THROUGH THE, UH, RED CHANNELS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, UNTIL WE GET AN AGREEMENT. SO THEN WE CAN BUILD OUR A NODE. SO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW ON THESE MM-HMM . CITY PROPERTIES, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT, IF YOU LOOK AT ON THE RIGHT WAY, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME. AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THEN TO REQUEST FOR A PERMIT OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, AND I THINK THE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT HAS A RIGHT TO PLACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. MM-HMM . THE BOARD IS NOT REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO PLACE IN, IN, IN A PARK, BUT WHERE IT'S, WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE, AND IF THE CITY IS ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH YOU ON SOME OF THESE, THAT IT COULD BE LOCATED IN THE, THAT'S HOW I READ, THAT'S HOW I READ THE BOARDS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE LOCATION. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT HAVING THESE IN OUR CITY. SO ALL WE'RE ASKING IS FOR YOU TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THIS IS AT LEAST OF THIS ONE NODE MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S MOVING IT, WHAT I CAN PROMISE YOU IS THAT WE WORK DILIGENTLY TO HAVE PROBABLY A BETTER LOCATION OF THE ONE THAT WE INITIALLY, UH, LIKE, UH, ROGELIO SAID, UNFORTUNATELY NORTH WE HAVE A NODE CLOSE BY. SO IF IF WE MOVE IT NORTH, IT WILL INTERFERE WITH THAT NODE. SO WE WOULD PREFER SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SAYING ACROSS THE STREET. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY OUT THE ROAD HAS A GAZILLION OF UTILITIES UNDER THAT ROAD FOR, FOR US IS VERY COSTLY TO GO UNDER AND PUT IT ALL ACROSS THE STREET. NO, I THINK IF, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT, THEN THIS IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR YOU GUYS. FOR THE CITY, YES. FOR THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. IT'S JUST ONE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA WORK SOMETHING AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT IT. YES. AND IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE, THEN I GUESS WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. YES. YES. DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN YEAR RESPECT, LIKE IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE MONTHS, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA, BUT THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED AS A PARTNER WITH THE CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S OUR PLEASURE. I HOW TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU NEED A MOTION? SO JUST BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, WE'RE GONNA AMEND OUR, OUR CONDITION ON, UM, LET'S SEE. [04:40:01] WE HAVE A CONDITION, THE EXTERIOR OF THE STEEL POLES SHALL BE POWDER COATED FINISHED TO MATCH THE COLORS OF THE NEAREST LIGHT POLES. AND FINAL EXTERIOR COLOR SELECTION, UH, SHALL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF. WE'RE GONNA MODIFY THAT BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT I'M HEARING. UM, THE STEEL POLE SHALL BE IN A NATURAL METAL COLOR AND SHALL NOT BE POWDER COATED. UM, OR PAINTED OR PAINTED AND PLACED WHEN POSSIBLE IN SWALE AREAS. AND THEN THAT'S THE, IN THE, AND NOT IN THE CENTER OF A STOREFRONT IN THE, AND THEN THE NEXT CONDITION THAT WE HAVE IS RELATED TO THE LOCATION. SO WE'LL REPLACE IT MOVED IF POSSIBLE, INTO SWALE AND AWAY FROM BLOCKING, UH, SIGHT LINES IF POSSIBLE BETWEEN PROPERTY LINES. MM-HMM . AWAY FROM BLOCKING, UM, BUSINESS ENTRANCES. RIGHT. AND IF POSSIBLE IN A PARK MM-HMM . ANSWER PARK. WE AGREE. OKAY. OKAY. BEAUTIFUL. UM, SO I GUESS WE'LL NEED A MOTION. UH, WE CAN ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL, ALL NINE OF THEM, UM, WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS, IF THAT WORKS. MOTION TO APPROVE ALL, OH, I THINK YOUR MICROPHONE. A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL NINE RECOMMENDATIONS. ATIONS. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS YOU SAID. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S DRB 25, 11 27, UM, DRB 25, 11 28 DRB 25, 11 30 DRB 25, 11 31 DRB 25, 11 32 DRB 25, 11 33 DRB 25, 11 34 DRB 25, 11 35. AND DRB 25, 11 36. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE HAPPY HOLIDAYS. YOU TOO. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. LIKEWISE. OKAY, OUR FINAL, UH, DRB 25, 11 40 77, 10 [19. DRB25-1140, 7710 Collins Avenue.] COLLINS AVENUE. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN WAITING SO PATIENTLY TO GET TO THIS POINT. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE STORY APARTMENT HOTEL, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING BUILDING APARTMENT. YEAH, YEAH. I'M GONNA SPLIT THEM. OKAY. SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION, UH, FOR A NEW APARTMENT HOTEL BUILDING. IT IS IN THE ARM, ONE DISTRICT, IT'S IN ONE OF THE, UM, THE ARM ONE DISTRICT IS GENERALLY A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE AREA OF THE CITY WHERE IT DOES ALLOW FOR HOTELS, AND THAT IS IN NORTH BEACH FOR PROPERTIES, FRONTING COLLINS AVENUE AND HARDING AVENUE, UM, UH, NORTH OF 73RD STREET, I BELIEVE, TO THE CITY LINE. UM, THIS AREA ALSO IS, UH, IS AN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE THE R ONE DISTRICT HAS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER FAR THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED, UM, IN MOST OTHER R ONE DISTRICTS AND MOST OTHER R ONE DISTRICTS. THE FAR IS 1.25. IN THIS CASE IT'S 1.4, IT'S UP. UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A, UH, A HOTEL. I WAS, I CAN, UM, THE HOTEL HAS, UM, 14 HOTEL. UH, IT'S AN APARTMENT HOTEL, I APOLOGIZE. IT HAS ONE APARTMENT UNIT AND IT HAS 14 HOTEL UNITS. UM, THE, BASED ON THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PARKING. HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING NINE SPACES. THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL ON TUESDAY FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, TO PROVIDE MECHANICAL LIFT PARKING STACKERS. UM, THEY INCORPORATED CONDITIONS ON THE OPERATIONS OF THAT, UM, ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO NOISE AND THAT THERE'S NO OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THAT. UM, SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S APPROVED. UM, SO THIS, THIS PROPOSAL, UH, THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL. UM, THE, UM, PARCEL FRONTS THE WEST SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE, IT'S AN INTERIOR LOT. IT'S LOCATED ADJACENT TO TWO, UH, TWO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, UM, OF A SIMILAR SCALE. THIS BUILDING MIGHT BE A FEW, A LITTLE BIT TALLER, BUT THEY'RE ALL OF A SIMILAR SCALE. UM, THE, THE BUILDING IS IN A CONTEMPORARY MODERN AESTHETIC. UH, THE FACADES CONSIST OF GLASS BALCONIES, GLASS FIBER REINFORCED CONCRETE FASCIA, UM, ALUMINUM WOOD TERRA. UM, THE UNDERSIDE OF THE BALCONIES HAVE ALUMINUM WOOD FINISHES, UM, WHICH SOFTEN THE DESIGN. THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR TERRACES CONTAIN OPEN AIR CUT THROUGHS, WHICH REDUCE THE MASS OF THE BUILDING. UM, AND THEN THE FOURTH AND THE FIFTH FLOORS ARE STEPPED BACK TO FURTHER REDUCE THE MASS OF THE BUILDING FROM, FROM COLLINS AVENUE. UM, THE ROOFTOP, UM, IS ALSO, UH, SET BACK SOMEWHAT. IT HAS [04:45:01] A, UM, UM, A POOL AVAILABLE FOR THE GUESTS OF THE, OF THE BUILDING AND FOR THE, UH, FOR THE RESIDENCE AND THEIR INVITED GUESTS. THE MAIN ENTRANCE LOBBY IS ORIENTED TOWARDS COLLIN AVENUE. UH, PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR, FOR VEHICLES BEING DROPPED FOR DROP OFF. UM, HOWEVER, THE PARKING IS ACCESSED EXCLUSIVELY FROM THE ALLEY IN THE REAR. UM, SO THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE GETTING INTO THE, THE FIRST FLOOR PARKING AREA THROUGH THE REAR. UM, THE, THE BUILDING ALSO HAS, UH, BICYCLE PARKING AREAS, UM, AND THEY HAVE, UM, UM, ALSO PARKING FOR SCOOTERS. UM, THEY WILL BE PROVIDING ALL THE PARKING WILL BE EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH VALET. UM, AND SO THE, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE INCLUDED, UH, A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS THAT I'LL, THAT I'LL READ INTO THE RECORD THAT ARE IN THE DRAFT ORDER. AND THAT'S THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT AN ACCEPTABLE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. PER THE TDM STRATEGIES OUTLINED IN THEIR, IN THEIR MOST RECENT TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT OF OCTOBER 25TH, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMMIT TO PROVIDING A MINIMUM OF ONE VALET ATTENDANT DURING THE SITE'S AM AND PM PEAK PERIODS, RESPECTIVELY. THE NUMBER OF ATTENDANTS SHOULD BE ADJUSTED WHEN HIGHER THAN NORMAL PEAK DEMANDS ARE ENCOUNTERED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL VEHICULAR QUEUES ON SITE. AND THEN THE APPLICANT SHALL COMMIT TO PROVIDING VALET SERVICE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. UM, AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE WHEN YOU'RE USING MECHANICAL PARKING BECAUSE THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THOSE. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? NO. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MATT AMSTER WITH THE LAW FIRM BERK HOWARD, EL FERNANDEZ, LARKIN, AND TAP PENEZ OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN MIAMI HERE TODAY, REPRESENTING 77 10 COLLINS AVENUE, LLC. UM, AND FROM THAT IS, UH, ANDREW AND ALEX MELNICK. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A DESIGN TEAM. UM, IT'S BOTH KOBE CARPS OFFICE AND, UH, YO DINE. UM, AND SO FROM KOBE CARPS OFFICE WE HAVE MATTHEW BACARD. AND, UH, FROM INE WE HAVE, UH, EDWIN PERADA ON THE LEFT AND ROBIN ANIN. UM, WE HAVE, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, JOSE FERNANDEZ ALVAREZ. APOLOGIES. UM, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WE'VE SEEN HIM EARLIER TODAY, ADRIAN KOWSKI. UH, AND, UH, ON, ON ZOOM, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR, UM, MECHANICAL LIFT, UH, EXPERT. ALTHOUGH WE WENT AND HAD THAT HEARD ON TUESDAY, UH, IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE HAD THAT EXPERT ONLINE. AND THEN MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE FIRM, UH, MITCH, IAN PASSED OUT. UM, OUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT. UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, IF THAT COULD BE CALLED UP, PLEASE. UM, I WANNA JUST MENTION, UH, THAT, UH, ANDREW AND, UH, HIS WIFE LIVE NEARBY HAVE, UH, HAVE A 20 YEARS PLUS FAMILY EXPERIENCE WITH OPERATING HOTELS IN UKRAINE AND CROATIA. UH, AND ARE LOOKING TO NOW, UM, TAKE THAT EXPERIENCE AND ELEVATE THIS AREA OF NORTH BEACH WITH A SMALL LUXURY BOUTIQUE HOTEL. UH, THEY WILL BE, UH, OVERSEEING THE MANAGEMENT AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE ONE OF MANY, UH, SUCH, UM, GREAT OPERATIONS. UM, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S OUR CONTEXT. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS ALIA WAS MENTIONING, THERE ARE, UM, A, A HOTEL AND APARTMENT HOTEL AS AN ALLOWED USE. THE AREA IS, UH, MAINLY RESIDENTIAL, UM, BUT, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH OF US WE HAVE, UH, A FEW, NOT JUST THE TWO ADJACENT, UH, FIVE STORY BUILDINGS. AND ALSO SOUTH OF 77TH STREET. THAT LARGE BUILDING THERE IS ACTUALLY 11 STORIES TALL. UM, BUT ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS, UH, LOT ITSELF VERY NARROW, ONLY 50 FEET WIDE. UM, AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY YEARS HAS SEEN LITTLE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT THAT, UH, THIS TYPE OF USE AND THIS QUALITY BUILDING AND OPERATION IS BEING PROPOSED TO HELP REVITALIZE THE AREA. UH, WE SHARED OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT. WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO WILL SPEAK AND SUPPORT, UM, BUT ALSO THERE WAS A, A NEIGHBOR MEETING, UM, PRIOR TO BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS BEING HEARD, AND OUR TEAM DID GO, UM, TO PRESENT THE PROJECT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO HERE'S JUST THE EXISTING, UH, BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. ON THE LEFT IS THE FRONT, UH, ON COLLINS, UH, TWO STORY BUILDING THERE TODAY. UH, THE, THE RIGHT SIDE IS A SMALL ONE STORY BUILDING ON THE ALLEY. [04:50:01] UH, THE ALLEY WILL BE THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO A FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. THERE WON'T BE ANY CURB CUT ADDED TO COLLINS. UH, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE, UH, SORT OF LACKLUSTER, SUBSTANDARD BUILDINGS. UH, AND THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, UM, BEEN, UH, THE SUBJECT OF, UH, HOMELESS, UH, ACTIVITY. AND, UH, THE OWNER HAS RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, SOME DAMAGE AND TRASH DUMPING. THEY'VE, UH, MADE SURE TO HAVE A TENANT. NOW THAT TAKES CARE OF THE PLACE, KEEPS IT BEAUTIFUL. UM, AND, UH, AND YET, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS NOT THE, A TRULY BEST IN, UH, PROJECT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS, UH, OUR PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, WILL HAVE ATTENDANT AT ALL TIMES AND BE A BEAUTIFICATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEREFORE BE A MUCH SAFER SITUATION FOR EVERYONE. AND NEXT SLIDE. UM, JUST TO SHOW YOU, THE BROWN AREAS IN THIS RM ONE DISTRICT ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE APARTMENT, HOTEL, OR HOTEL USES. UH, NEXT SLIDE. AND, UH, I THINK I'VE MADE MENTION, AND, AND ROGELIO DID TOO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DECENT SIZED HOTEL UNITS, ONE APARTMENT. THE APARTMENT IS INTENDED TO BE THE MANAGER OF THE FACILITY. AND, UM, WE DID GO THROUGH AND HAVE LOTS OF OPERATIONS ALREADY APPROVED. UM, AND THE TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION STAFF DID REVIEW FOR OUR, UH, TUESDAY'S PLANNING BOARD HEARING, UH, WITH THE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. AND I WILL SPEAK TO A FEW ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS AT THE END. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MATTHEW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MATTHEW PICARD WITH KOBE CARR ARCHITECTS 5 7 1 NORTHWEST 28TH STREET. UH, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A 14, UH, ROOM, UH, APARTMENT HOTEL COMPLEX WITH ONE, UH, UNIT THAT WILL BE RESIDENTIAL USE, AND THAT'LL BE FOR MOST LIKELY THE MANAGEMENT OF THE HOTEL THAT'LL STAY ON PROPERTY. UM, WE ARE PROVIDING A, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ON FOUR MECHANICAL LIFTS AND 180 DA PARKING SPACE AS REQUIRED PORT CODE. AND AS MATT SAID, UH, WE WILL HAVE 24 7 VALET OPERATION, UM, EXCUSE ME, WHICH MEANS WE'LL HAVE, UH, UH, 24 7 EYES AND EARS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY AND ON THE STREET. UM, HERE WE HAVE, UH, A CONTEXTUAL SITE PLAN JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE, UH, ARE, WE'RE FLANKED TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH BY FIVE STORY BUILDINGS. ACTUALLY, THE ENTIRE BLOCK HAS FIVE STORY BUILDINGS. UH, AS ROGELIO, UH, MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY WILL BE SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S DUE TO THE, UM, UH, FLOODPLAIN NEW CODES WHERE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE ADDED HEIGHTS. SO WE ARE JUST A SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THE, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, BUT WE ARE TECHNICALLY STILL AT THE SAME HEIGHT ELEVATION AS PROOF PER PER CODE. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE THINK THAT, UH, WE REALLY FIT IN PRETTY WELL HERE INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, THE, THE, THIS, THIS, UM, BLOCK WAS REDEVELOPED ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE JUST COMPLETING THAT MISSING TOOTH, UH, THAT WAS IN THAT LOT, AS YOU COULD SEE FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. UM, HERE WE HAVE A, UH, CONTEXT FACING, UH, NORTHWEST, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE BLOCK, THERE'S A MUCH LARGER EIGHT STORY BUILDING, UH, NO LONGER ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH OF OUR SITE AND THE BLOCK TO THE NORTH. UH, ALL FIVE STORIES ALL CONTEXTUALLY, UM, FITTING IN THERE. AND YOU CAN SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN POINT THE MOUSE. YEAH, NO, I JUST NEED TO USE THE, NO, I'LL HAVE TO USE THE MOUSE. YEAH, RIGHT THERE WHERE THE HAND IS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. UH, RIGHT THERE. THAT'S OUR LOT. UH, WE DID IT IN GRAY, SO IT STANDS OUT A LITTLE BIT, UM, FROM THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS. UM, HERE IT IS, AGAIN, A VIEW FACING WEST, UH, CONTEXTUALLY SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IT FITS WITHIN THE FABRIC OF THE EXISTING, UH, BLOCK THERE. AND HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE SOUTHEAST LOOKING TOWARDS THE OCEAN. AND AGAIN, I CAN POINT OUT THE MOUSE. THERE'S A LITTLE 7, 7 10 COLLINS MARKER THERE AS YOU, IF YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONTEXT, AS I SAID. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THAT MISSING TOOTH, THE LITTLE TWO STORY BUILDING THAT SITS RIGHT THERE AS IT SIT AS IT STANDS TODAY. AND NOW CURRENTLY WE'LL BE, UH, FILLING IN THAT MISSING, UH, GAP. THERE. HERE AGAIN, THIS IS OUR BUILDING, UH, SHOWN A MASSING IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBORS. UM, ONE THING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE AND YOU'LL SEE FURTHER IN THE RENDERINGS, IS HOW WE, UM, RELATE TO THE STREET TO COLLINS, HOW WE OPEN IT UP. CURRENTLY, THIS BLOCK HAS BASICALLY NO BUILDING FRONTAGE TO IT. IT'S A WALL. [04:55:01] OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH IS A WALL. THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH OPENS UP TO 77TH. WE'LL BE ONE OF THE ONLY PROPERTIES THAT HAS A FRONT DOOR FINALLY ON THIS BLOCK WITH GLASS. AND IN A LOBBY THAT OPENS UP TO THE STREET, THAT ALLOWS THAT KIND OF EYES AND EARS ON THE STREET TO KIND OF REALLY KEEP THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AWARE THAT WE'RE THERE. AND IT'LL BE MANNED 24 7, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE BLOCK. HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS ROGELIO SAID, VERY WELL, HE KIND OF GAVE, GAVE AWAY ALL MY, MY PARTS OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT WE DID WANT TO HAVE THESE LARGE CANTILEVERING BALCONIES, AND YOU CAN SEE THE GAP THERE, UH, OVER THE ENTRY TO KIND OF REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THE BALCONIES, BUT STILL HAVE THOSE CANTILEVERS THERE. SO ARTICULATING THE FACADE IN A WAY TO, TO ALLEVIATE, UM, THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY NARROW IN A VERY NARROW LOT. UM, THIS, THIS EXHIBIT HERE IS JUST SHOWING YOU THE SPACING. UH, WE DO HAVE A NICE SPACING TO THE NORTH, AND YOU'LL SEE OUR BUILDING ORIENTS ITSELF TO THAT NORTH. UM, BECAUSE TO THE SOUTH WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORING BUILDING. THEY HAVE A SMALL SETBACK, AS DO WE. AND THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THERE, UM, DUE TO FIRE SEPARATION AND OPENINGS AS REQUIRED PER CODE. AND SO IT REALLY FORCES US TO PUSH THE BUILDING FACING NORTH MORE THAN SOUTH, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME FENESTRATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE. UH, HERE AGAIN IS THE VIEW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT, UH, OPENING IN THE BALCONY AND ON THE RENDERING ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE BALCONY STEPPING BACK AWAY FROM COLLINS TO MAKE THE BUILDING LESS IMPOSING, UH, BUT YET STILL MAINTAINING THOSE LARGE CANTILEVER BALCONIES FOR THIS LUXURY HOTEL THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD. AND AS WE, WE ROGELIO SAID, UH, WE'RE USING, UM, ALUMINUM CLADDING. WE DO HAVE A MATERIAL BOARD HERE THAT WE CAN PASS AROUND IF YOU GUYS WANNA SEE WITH SOME GFRC GLASS RAILINGS, LUSCIOUS LANDSCAPE. UH, AND I'LL GET TO THE LANDSCAPE AND THE ELEVATIONS. AND ON THE SOUTHERN, ON, ON THE NORTHERN ELEVATION THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SIDE, UH, WE DO HAVE THAT BLANK WALL. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR PARKING. AND IN ORDER TO THE LIFTS, AND AS PART OF THE, THE WAY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SOUND AND IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORS, IT'S FULLY ENCLOSED IN CONCRETE BLOCKS SO THAT THERE WILL BE NO SOUND OR ANYTHING THERE. AND THAT'S, UH, WHERE WE LOCATED THE, THE LIFTS. AND SO WE CLA THAT ALL IN ALUMINUM. UM, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF OF THAT FOR YOU TO SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE. AND, UM, ON THAT NORTH FACADE, THAT BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF US DOES HAVE THEIR BALCONIES STICKING OUT. THEY BASICALLY FACE OUR LOT. SO WE DID, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, KEPT ALL OUR TERRACES INBOARD TO THE BUILDING, INDENTING THEM. WE TURNED THE FACADE, UH, WE ANGLED IT AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO MAINTAIN AT LEAST A SENSE OF PRIVACY, BECAUSE IF WE JUST BUILT A BLOCK, WE'D JUST BE, EVERYONE WOULD BE FACING EACH OTHER. SO WE WANTED TO TURN ALL THE UNITS AND PROVIDE A PEEKABOO VIEW AS WELL TO THE OCEAN, BECAUSE WE DO FACE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND ON THE UPPER FLOORS, WE WILL GET VIEWS OF THE OCEAN SLIGHTLY. UM, HERE WE HAVE THE ELEVATIONS AGAIN, I THINK IF WE WANNA PASS AROUND THE MATERIALS, MAYBE. DO YOU WANT PASS 'EM? THANK YOU, ED. EDWARD. UM, THIS IS THE CALL OUT. WE'VE CLOUDED THE ENTIRE FACADE. UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, DO YOU WANT TO YEAH, WE CAN BRING IT UP. YEAH. WE'VE CLOUDED THE ENTIRE FACADE. IT'S, IT'S, UH, A VERY RICH, UH, BUILDING IN THE SENSE OF THE MATERIALITY THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. UM, HERE'S THE, UM, NORTH FACADE. THIS IS WITHOUT THE LANDSCAPING, BUT WE DO HAVE A VERY LUSCIOUS LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT ON THIS PROJECT. NOT ONLY AT THE GROUND FLOOR, BUT A LITTLE BIT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING AND ON THE ROOFTOP. UM, HERE IT IS WITH THE LANDSCAPING. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE REALLY, UM, WANT TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THIS GREEN LUSCIOUS FLORIDA, UH, STYLE WITH AS MANY NATIVE PLANTS HERE. UH, THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION, AGAIN, WITH THE LANDSCAPING. UM, WE'LL KEEP GOING. HERE ARE THE MATERIALS. YEAH, YEAH. UM, HERE WE HAVE AN ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ROOFTOP, WE WILL BE HAVING A, UH, POOL TOP AMENITY. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A LUXURY HOTEL, SO THERE DOES HAVE TO BE A POOL FOR THE, UH, THE GUESTS TO USE. UH, WE DID PUT, UH, HOURLY RESTRICTIONS AT THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY NOISE [05:00:01] ON THE ROOFTOP. NO, UH, UH, SPEAKERS ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BE PUT UP THERE. AND THERE WILL BE RESTRICTED HOURS. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE, YEAH. UM, 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND AS YOU SAID, NO EXTERNAL SPEAKERS THAT ALREADY IS, UH, END. UH, IT'S ONLY FOR HOTEL GUESTS AND THE RESIDENTS, NOT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC. YEAH. AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, SO SINCE WE'RE ON THIS, UH, THERE'S NO FOOD AND BEVERAGE, THERE'S NO LOUNGE, NO BAR, NO, UM, AMENITY OF THAT NATURE. IT'S REALLY JUST THIS SMALL LITTLE, UM, ROOF DECK AREA THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAVE OUR, UH, RESTRICTIONS TO NOT BE A NUISANCE. GO AHEAD. UH, THIS IS THE, UH, GROUND FLOOR PLAN. UH, AGAIN, I'LL QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH IT. WE HAVE OUR FRONT DESK, UH, LOBBY RECEPTION. UH, WE HAVE OUR SHORT-TERM, UH, UH, BICYCLE PARKING. THEN WE HAVE AN ENCLOSED LONG-TERM BICYCLE PARKING. WE HAVE SOME SCOOTER PARKING. WE HAVE THE ENCLOSED, UH, LIFTS. WE HAVE ONE A DA. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, MANEUVERABILITY SPACE THAT WAS DONE BY, UH, ADRIAN BEHIND ME. UM, AND OUR ACCESS ON THE ALLEY, WHICH IS ALL THE WAY ON THE LEFT. UM, THIS IS OUR TYPICAL, UH, LAYOUT. UH, THE ROOMS RANGE 400 AND CHANGE TO, THEY GET LARGER, BUT A FEW GET LARGER. UM, THESE ARE ALL SUITE HOTELS. THAT'S THE INTENT. SO THEY DO HAVE A SMALL KITCHENETTE, UH, LUXURIOUS BATHROOMS, A LIVING ROOM SPACE, AND A, UH, A SLEEPING AREA OR BEDROOM. UM, THE BUILDING DOES STEP BACK A LITTLE AS WE, WE, UM, GO UP TALLER. THE FOOTPRINT GETS SMALLER. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE DASH LINES ON THE PLAN, BUT I'LL JUST SKIM THROUGH THESE. UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ALL HAVE THESE LARGE TERRACES TO THE FRONT. IT REALLY IS MEANT TO BE A LUXURY, UH, YOU KNOW, HOTEL, APARTMENT. AND THEN WE GET TO OUR ROOFTOP. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE, UM, FOR BOTH THE GROUND AND, AND THE ROOFTOP. AND THEN, UM, WE, THIS IS OUR SCREENING THAT WE ARE UTILIZING TO HIDE ALL OF THE, UH, MANEUVERABILITY SPACE SO THAT CARS, THE LIGHTS WON'T BOTHER THE NEIGHBORS. IT'LL ALL BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, AS YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY IN THE PLAN. UH, AND WE'LL BE SCREENED FROM, UH, VIEW. AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THAT CIRCULATION SPACE, UH, UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING, A LITTLE AXON FOR YOU TO SEE. AND THEN THE DETAILS ON THE LIFT THAT WE GOT APPROVED AT, UH, PLANNING BOARD. SO JUST TO QUICKLY FINISH HERE, THE, AS FAR AS OPERATIONS, AGAIN, THAT WAS MAINLY HANDLED ON TUESDAY. UM, BUT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW, RIGHT, IT'S 24 7 VALET. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE ON, ON THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH HELPS FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE HOTEL AS WELL. UM, WE DO NOT ACTUALLY NEED TO PROVIDE ANY HOTEL PARKING AT ALL. AS SO, WE ARE CHOOSING TO PUT THE PARKING INSIDE THE PROPERTY AS A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST THE GUESTS OF THE HOTEL, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HAVE PARKING ON PROPERTY, WHICH IS RARE AND NOT COMMON IN, IN, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE OF THE INCENTIVE TO NOT HAVE IT. AND THIS MEANS THAT THERE WON'T BE PEOPLE HAVING TO GO FIND PARKING ON THE STREET AND TAKE IT AWAY FROM, UH, OTHER PEOPLE. AND, UH, IT'S RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY. ALL OF THE VALET OPERATION HAPPENS INSIDE OUR PROPERTY. YOU COME, YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE, TO THE ALLEY TO THE, A PROPERTY AND YOU DROP OFF YOUR CAR INSIDE THE GARAGE AREA, AND THEN YOU PICK IT BACK UP RIGHT INSIDE THE GARAGE AREA. THERE ARE NO TRIPS FOR VALET TO GO THROUGH THE STREET NETWORK TO BRING THE CAR FROM SOME SATELLITE LOCATION BACK TO HERE. SO, VERY STREAMLINED LOADING OPERATIONS ALSO WILL HAPPEN ON SITE. THAT IS A CONDITION OF OUR PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL. SO THE TRUCK WILL BASICALLY REACH, YOU KNOW, COME FROM THE ALLEY BACK INTO OUR PROPERTY AND THEN DO THE, I I CAN'T IMAGINE LOADING WILL BE EXTENSIVE HERE AT SUCH A SMALL FACILITY. BUT THAT ALSO WILL BE, UM, ON THE PROPERTY AND NOT AFFECT TRANSPORTATION THROUGH THE ALLEY. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, WE DID MENTION THAT WE'VE RESTRICTED HOURS ON THE POOL DECK. THERE'S NO EXTERNAL SPEAKERS, WHICH IS ANOTHER CONDITION ALREADY IN THAT ORDER. UM, AND WE DID AGREE ALSO THAT THE MECHANICAL LIFTS SHALL NOT BE PLAINLY AUDIBLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS. AGAIN, THE, THE LIFTS ARE INSIDE A TOTALLY ENCLOSED AREA, AND THE REST OF THE PARKING AREA AS REQUIRED BY CODE IS PROPERLY SCREENED. UM, THIS IS A, A, A GOOD PROJECT FOR URBAN INFILL, RIGHT? COMPLETING THE, THE OPEN SPACE ESSENTIALLY THAT, UM, MATTHEW WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT. AND THIS WILL DEFINITELY HELP TO REVITALIZE THE AREA. UM, IT'S A COMPACT PROPERTY, COMPACT DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY VARIANCES, NO WAIVERS. IT'S A HARD FEAT FOR SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE. WE ARE A RESILIENT PROJECT, AS MATTHEW WAS MENTIONING. OUR WHOLE GROUND [05:05:01] LEVEL JUST COMPLETELY IS THE PARKING AND THE LOBBY. NO UNITS. OUR UNITS ARE ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, NOT JUST FROM BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, BUT EVEN ABOVE MAXIMUM FREEBOARD. SO VERY, VERY RESILIENT. UM, AND WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND SAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEASURES OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS THAT YOUR YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS RE CONFORTI. MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED A UNIT AT, UH, 77 28 COLLINS FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. UM, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE UNIT, WE OBVIOUSLY SAW THE VACANT LOT. WE SAW WHAT WAS THERE AND WE REALIZED THAT SOME POINT IT WAS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED. IT ONLY MADE SENSE TO DO THAT. UM, HAD WE KNOWN IT WAS GONNA BE REDEVELOPED AS A HOTEL, WE WOULD'VE NEVER BOUGHT THE CONDOMINIUM. WE SEE NO BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY DESPITE THE POLLYANNA SCENARIO THAT I JUST HEARD, TO HAVING A HOTEL MIDBLOCK BETWEEN TWO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, TOTALLY OUTTA CHARACTER FOR 76TH STREET, 77TH STREET, 78TH STREET. THERE'S NO BENEFIT. IT'S A NEGATIVE. IT'LL AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES NEGATIVELY. UM, IT'LL INCREASE SECURITY CONCERNS. IT'LL CHOOSE CONGESTION DESPITE WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SAID. UM, COLLINS COURT IS AN EXTREMELY NARROW ALLEY. THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ALL FEED COME IN FOR INGRAM INGRESS AT EGRESS ON COLLINS COURT. THIS IS, THEY'RE ARE ALREADY PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, DELIVERIES OR TRASH PICKUP AND CONGESTION ON COLLINS COURT. THIS IS GONNA EXACERBATE THE CONGESTION. PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THE CONDOMINIUM GARAGES TRYING TO GET TO WORK, ARE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH TRASH PICKUP, PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, LAUNDRY SERVICE VEHICLES, THE PARKING THAT WAS APPROVED, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BACK CARS OUT OF THE STRUCTURE INTO THE ALLEY AND JUGGLE THEM AROUND. WE SEE NO BENEFIT TO HAVING THIS PROJECT, NUMBER ONE. THAT'S, SO, I THINK IT'S A NON, I SEE IT AS A NON-CONFORMING USE. UM, EXCUSE ME, BUT MY COM MY PHONE JUST FROZE. UM, A HOTEL'S GOING TO BE A 24 7 OPERATION, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE NOISE POLLUTION, MORE LIGHT POLLUTION. HOW MUCH MORE, MORE AIR POLLUTION YOU OFFICIALLY RUN OUTTA TIME, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER 30 SECONDS? OKAY. ONE, ONE QUICK. YEAH, ONE QUICK THING. 'CAUSE I DID SUBMIT AN EMAIL. UM, THE PETITIONER AND THE OWNER ON THE PLANS ARE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. I THINK IT HAS TO BE CORRECTED LEGALLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S PROPER TO DO THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD. HELLO, I'M PAT RCH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. I, MY VOICE WOULD BE LOUD ENOUGH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. HELLO, I'M PAT . I SHARE A RESIDENCE THERE WITH MY, UH, SON-IN-LAW, JP RODRIGUEZ. IT'S UNIT SIX, SO I'D BE ONE OF THE ONES VERY CLOSE TO THAT. UM, I'M LOOKING AT, AND I CAN TELL YOU AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT SECTION OF COLLINS IS REALLY A, UH, THOROUGHFARE ALMOST SPEED PICKS UP FROM ABOUT 75TH STREET. AND THERE HAS BEEN, UH, A FRIEND OF MINE WHO LOST HER VEHICLE PARKED OUT IN FRONT. SO COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT, WHEN YOU PARK ON THE LEFT SIDE IS DANGEROUS TO BEGIN WITH. THEIR CAR WAS HIT AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT ON A FRIDAY NIGHT IN TOTAL THEIR CAR. SO THE IDEA OF SAFETY THERE, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALONG THAT SECTION OF HIGHWAY, UM, THAT'S A PIECE OF HIGHWAY THAT IS POSTED SPEED PROBABLY OF 30 MILES AN HOUR. THE PROBABLY AVERAGE SPEED OF PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE IS PROBABLY 45 MILES AN HOUR. OKAY. SO THAT IS A TOUGH INGRESS FOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S NO WAY THE PROPERTY'S SO NARROW. WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING HERE, I LOOKED AT THAT PROPERTY AND SAID, WELL, BUT IT WAS SO NARROW YOU COULDN'T DO MUCH WITH IT. AND I WAS ALWAYS WONDERING WHY IT WAS STUCK THERE AND LEFT LIKE THAT. UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND I KNOW IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT PROJECT TO SEE THROUGH AND DO. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE DESIGN, WHEN YOU LOOK SOUTH OF THERE, EVERYTHING'S WHITE. AS YOU GO THROUGH, THE TENDENCY FROM ABOUT 70, WHAT IS THAT, 75TH STREET, ALMOST ALL THE WAY FROM 72ND ALL THE WAY UP ARE WHITE FAT FACADES ON THE BUILDINGS AT ALL. THIS ONE'S GONNA STAND OUT AS QUITE DIFFERENT, UM, WHICH WOULD BE THIS BOARD'S PLAN. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE THERE IS PRETTY MUCH A WHITE AND BLUE. UM, AND TRYING TO STAY WITH THAT COLOR SCHEME, IT'S SUCH JUST SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THAT, UM, YOU [05:10:01] KNOW, AND I LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY OF, YOU KNOW, I, SORRY, I DIDN'T GET TO TAKE INTO PLANS EARLIER AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE ABOUT. UM, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE DESIGN. I JUST CAME TO MY ATTENTION ALL THIS ON TUESDAY. SO I LIKE, THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR TIME AND HOPE YOU GUYS HEAR WHAT I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT PERSON. OKAY. HELLO. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH CONFORTI, UH, MARRIED TO RAYMOND CONFORTI OVER THERE. AND, UM, UM, I'M CONCERNED, UM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A, THE, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING A HOTEL IS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS IN, UH, A LEGAL SENSE. UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING A RESIDENTIAL HOTEL TO HAVE A HOTEL. THEY'RE DOING RESIDENCES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY THERE FOR A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR A MONTH OR THREE MONTHS AND GET AROUND THE SIX MONTH AND A DAY CRITERIA. YOU KNOW, THE LIMITS THAT ARE ON A RE REGULAR RESIDENTIAL HOTEL. SO IN A REGULAR RESIDENCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS. OTHERS I CAN SAY WHEN I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY'RE, SO, YOU KNOW, UM, TAKE A BREATH. MM-HMM . YEAH, I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING A WHILE. SO YEAH, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE DAY. UM, UH, ANYWAY, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING IS GREAT, BUT OUR PROPERTY IS ON THE SOUTHERN EXPOSURE OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE WILL BE FACING THE HOTEL AND, UH, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GONNA BE, A LOT OF LANDSCAPE AND TREES GET REALLY BIG AND IT COULD, WE RIGHT NOW HAVE AN OCEAN FRONT. I MEAN, WE HAVE AN OCEAN VIEW RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE AN OCEAN VIEW. AND SO DEPENDING UPON HOW THE, HOW THE BUILDING IS PUT AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG IT IS AND HOW WIDE IT IS, UH, WE WILL BE RIGHT THERE. AND IF THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING, THEN WE WILL LOSE OUR VIEW. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT FOR US IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW? SO ANYWAY, I'LL STOP NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE? OH, PLEASE COME FORWARD. NO. HELLO, MY NAME IS JAY. I LIVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE 2010, SO I STARTED AT 78 37 ABBOT AVENUE, AND CURRENTLY I'M 66, 10 INDIAN CREEK DRIVE. SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, 15 YEARS AGO, IT WAS REALLY SCARY PLACE, ESPECIALLY IN THE PARK. IT WAS SHOOTINGS AND IT WAS SCARY. SO CURRENTLY IT'S MUCH BETTER. IT'S, YOU KNOW, SAFETY ROSE UP, BUT I, I THINK THIS HOTEL WOULD BRING THE VALUE. WHY? WHY? BECAUSE CONSIDERING HAVING SURFSIDE AND HOTELS, LUXURY HOTELS, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING BAD RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOME, SOME OTHER CONCERNS. SO IT'S NOT JUST REGULAR LIKE THREE STARS HOTEL. SO I THINK THIS WOULD BRING THE VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS LONG AS SAFETY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M SANDRA PAYNE AND I RESIDE AT 6,700 INDIAN CREEK DRIVE. MIAMI BEACH IS MY HOME, MY CHILDREN, MY FAMILY, MY PETS. I AM ON THE BEACH EVERY DAY RUNNING, PLAYING BEACH VOLLEYBALL. AND I REALLY LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND I LOVE OUR BUSINESSES AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS HOTEL IS A GREAT ASSET TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. OCEAN TERRACE IS BEING DEVELOPED BETWEEN 74TH AND 75TH AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE WITH THE LANDSCAPING IS BEAUTIFUL, A MEDITATING GARDEN. AND OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT. SO, UM, AESTHETICALLY IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT REFLECTS THE PARK'S VISION, WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO REMODEL THE PARK, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA ADD A LOT OF VALUE TO OUR CITY. AND IN ADDITION TO OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY, THAT THEY REALLY NEED THIS. THEY NEED A HIGHER, UH, VALUE CALIBER HOTEL FOR THEIR BUSINESSES THAT WE NEED TO THINK OF THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. CAN I READ? SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS AND MENICK, MY WIFE ALEXANDRA, AND WE ARE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 7 7 10 COS AND I'M ALSO THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS THE GEM OF THE COMMUNITY [05:15:01] VISION VALUE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY. I WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND FOR THE WORK YOU DO. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT NORTH BEACH IS ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST PERMISSION AREA IN MIAMI. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE DECISION TO INVEST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH THIS IN MIND, I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT OUR PROJECT IS AND WHAT IS NOT. AND SHORTLY OUR PROJECT IS, UH, BOUTIQUE LUXURY WATER. IT IS DESIGNED TO BE QUITE ELEGANT AND HIGH QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT NIGHTCLUB, IT IS NOT BAR, IT'S NOT PLACE FOR PARTY. MIAMI BEACH IS NOW FOR FAMILY FRIENDLY, CALM, AND BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT. AND OUR PROJECT FOLLOWED THE SAME IDEA THAT I WILL RESPECT. NOW LET ME EXPLAIN THE CONDITION OF THE SEED TODAY AND WHAT WE PLAN TO BRING TO THIS BLOCK. BEFORE WE BOUGHT THIS PROJECT, THE SEED WAS IN POOR SITE, WAS IN POOR CONDITION. THERE WERE HOMELESS PEOPLE STAYING THERE AND TRASH WAS LEFT ON THE GROUND. IT DID NOT ADD ANY VALUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE MENTALLY THE SEED AND HAVE A TENANT, BUT THIS IS NOT BEST FOR LONG TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE HIRED K CAR, ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTFUL ARCHITECTURE IN MIAMI. THE DESIGN AND FACADE ARE INSPIRED BY FAMOUS BOUTIQUE HOTEL LIKE IAN, BEAUTIFUL ARCTICS AND UNI. THIS PROJECT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT FOR US PERSONALLY. WE WANT IT TO DO BE A BUSINESS CARD FOR OUR DEVELOPER WORK SOMETIMES THAT SHOW OUR STYLE, OUR QUALITY, AND OUR LONG-TERM VISION. WE'LL PERSONALLY OVERSEE MANAGEMENT OF THIS AND, UH, WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT THERE. OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IMPROVE THE ENTIRE BLOCK AND MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS BETTER AND FEEL BETTER AT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. INVESTOR OVER 1 MILLION IN NORTH BEACH. WE WANT TO BE WITH THEM. AND LAST, WE ARE INVESTED OUR MONEY, TIME AND REPUTATION IN THIS PROJECT. WE WANT TO BRING BEAUTY, SAFETY, ECONOMIC VALUE IN THIS BLOCK. WE WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE PROUD OF TODAY. I KINDLY RESPECTFUL, ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR GIVING A TIME. SORRY FOR MY READING. NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY, WE DO HAVE A FEW HANDS RAISED ONLINE. THE FIRST IS ZANE THOMPSON. ZANE, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, SO MY NAME IS ZANE THOMPSON. I AM AN ATTORNEY, UH, AT THE LAW FIRM OF HUBBARD CENTRAL AND PARLO. AND MY FIRM REPRESENTS THE VILLA ME CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. AND WE SUBMITTED A SEVEN PAGE LETTER WITH DETAILED OBJECTIONS. AND WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, THAT OUR LETTER AND OBJECTIONS ARE CONSIDERED, UH, TODAY BY, BY THE BOARD. UM, I ALSO HEARD A STATEMENT FROM MR. RAY CONFORTI. AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THAT I, I AGREE WITH HIM, IT WITH RESPECT TO WHERE IF THE, UH, OWNER ENTITY AND THE ENTITY OF THE PETITIONER, UM, IF THOSE ARE DIFFERENT, THEN I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THAT RENDERS THE APPLICATION DEFECTIVE AND OR IMPROPER. AND SO WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU. NEXT IS, UH, CHARLOTTE LIGHT. CHARLOTTE, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. YOU CAN. HI, MY NAME'S CHARLOTTE LIGHT. I LIVE AT, UH, 77 28 COLLINS AVENUE. I LIVE IN THE BUILDING THAT'S DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF LISTENING TO THIS MEETING SINCE 9:00 AM THIS MORNING. I REALLY THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME AND I HEARD SOMEONE ON THE BOARD SAY AT AROUND 10:00 AM THAT THERE'S A SMALL FACTION OF NORTH BEACH RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIKE SUPER ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. AND I JUST WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT WE DO NOT REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE. WE'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS. WE ARE HIGHLY INVESTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE GROWTH OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN FOR THIS LOT ON 77, 10 COLLINS FOR YEARS. UM, SO WE WELCOME SOMETHING NEW. WE JUST DON'T WELCOME SOMETHING NEW THAT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AND WHAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IS, UM, A, YOU KNOW, A BEAUTIFUL CONDO KEEP THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT PLEASE [05:20:01] CONSIDER KEEPING IT REGULAR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THE BLOCK. SO THAT WOULD MEAN A SIX MONTH AND A DAY LEASE MINIMUM. UM, I DO WANNA SAY, I, I'M CURIOUS WHY TWO PEOPLE WHO LIVE OVER 10 BLOCKS AWAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED THEIR ENTIRE DAY TO, UM, LOOK AT THE, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT INCENTIVES ARE THERE, IF ANY. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF BAFFLING TO ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SPEND THEIR ENTIRE DAY WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE NEAR THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS. UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE KRISTEN SPILLANE. KRISTEN, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. THANK YOU. HI BOARD MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS KRISTEN SPILLANE. I'M A VERY PROUD RESIDENT OF NORTH BEACH. I LIVE AT 77 28 COLLINS AVE. I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND I LIVE IMMEDIATELY NORTH THIS PROPERTY. I HAVE A FEW REASONS, UM, THAT I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU. WHY I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY BUT FIRMLY OPPOSE THIS PETITION. FIRST OFF, THE USE IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE BLOCK. YOU HEARD THIS FROM A FEW PEOPLE BEFORE ME. WHILE RM ONE ZONING MAY ALLOW A HOTEL AS A CONDITIONAL USE, THIS PORTION OF COLLINS AVE HAS LONG FUNCTIONED AS A QUIET LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR. EVERY ADJACENT BUILDING IS RESIDENTIAL. A TRANSIENT LODGING USE MID-BLOCK WOULD INTRODUCE ACTIVITY, TURNOVER, AND IMPACTS THAT SIMPLY DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE CHARACTER AND FUNCTIONING OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SECOND, THE PROPOSED ACCESS AND PARKING PLAN IS NOT OPERATIONALLY OR SAFELY FEASIBLE. THE PLANNING BOARD EARLIER THIS WEEK APPROVED MECHANICAL PARKING WITHOUT CLEAR INFORMATION ON EMERGENCY ACCESS CIRCULATION, OR HOW A SINGLE LANE ALLEYWAY COULD SUPPORT ALL HOTEL ACTIVITY. WE HEARD REFERENCES EARLIER TODAY. I ALSO, THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS MEETING SINCE 9:00 AM ABOUT THOSE MANEUVERABILITY STUDIES FOR OTHER PROJECTS. I HAVE NOT BEEN, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY FOR THIS PROPOSAL. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION THAT THIS ALLEY CAN SAFELY SERVE AS THE SOLE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. THIS ALLEY YOU ALSO HEARD FROM OTHER FOLKS IS ALREADY CONSTRAINED. NOW ADD GUESTS, STAFF, RIDE SHARE VEHICLES, SERVICE TRUCKS, HOUSEKEEPING, MAINTENANCE AND DELIVERIES. AND THEN IMAGINE THAT SAME LANE IN AN EMERGENCY UNTIL THE APPLICANT PRODUCES CREDIBLE STUDIES AND DATA. THE SAFETY AND VIABILITY OF THIS PLAN REMAIN IN SERIOUS DOUBT FOR ME. THIRD, STEWARDSHIP CONCERNS ARE REAL. THIS OWNERSHIP GROUP HAS ALREADY BEEN CITED FOR A ZONING VIOLATION. THAT HISTORY RAISES LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT LONG-TERM COMPLIANCE. AND WHETHER A HOTEL OR APARTMENT, HOTEL WOULD BE RESPONSIBLY OPERATED IN SUCH A SENSITIVE LOCATION. IF THE DEVELOPER IS TRULY INVESTED IN NORTH BEACH AS HE CLAIMS A HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WOULD FAR EXCEED THE BENEFITS OF A HOTEL. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE POINTS, I'M GONNA KEEP IT SHORT. UM, THIS PROGRAM SUGGESTS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INTENT YOU HEARD EARLIER FROM FOLKS WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ANCHOR ON THE SIX MONTHS TO A DAY, UM, AND TO CLOSE OUT RESIDENTS. AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHERS, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO REDEVELOPMENT, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS USE. A HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WOULD STRENGTHEN THIS CORRIDOR WITHOUT THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC AND THE OPERATIONAL BURDENS OF A HOTEL, UM, CLAIMS FROM OTHER RESIDENTS WHO LIVE 10 BLOCKS AWAY THAT THIS HOTEL WOULD IMPROVE. PARK SAFETY, HOMELESSNESS, OTHER LOCAL BUSINESS ACTIVITY ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE. STABLE RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY PROVIDES FAR STRONGER NEIGHBORHOOD STEWARDSHIP THAN A HIGH TRADER FOR LODGING. FINALLY, TO CLOSE THIS OUT, I WANT TO DIRECTLY TIE THIS BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD'S MANDATE. YOU ALL ARE CHARGED WITH SAFEGUARDING DESIGN, QUALITY COMPATIBILITY, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY. EVEN IF A USE IS TECHNICALLY PERMISSIBLE, YOU MUST DETERMINE WHETHER IT FITS AND THE OPERATIONAL REALITY OF THE BLOCK HERE, IT CLEARLY DOES NOT. YOU ALL UNDERSTAND HOW MASSING CIRCULATION, NOISE AND OPERATIONAL PATTERNS SHAPE REAL NEIGHBORHOODS? YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY REQUIRED CLEAR FINAL PLANS, NOT SHIFTING PROPOSALS, AND YOU'VE PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. WHEN PRODUCTS POSE PROJECTS POSE UNDUE BURDENS, YOU HAVE ALSO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSIDER LONG-TERM STEWARDSHIP, WHICH IS UNCERTAIN HERE. THIS BOARD WAS CREATED TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT ENHANCES RATHER THAN DESTABILIZES. MIAMI BEACH NEIGHBORHOODS A FIVE STORY TRANSIENT LOING USE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BLOCK IN WHICH WE ARE PROUD TO BE CITIZENS OF IS COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS CHARACTER'S CHARACTER AND WITH YOUR MANDATE AS A BOARD. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS PETITION AND REQUIRE A USE THAT TRULY FITS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE CELESTE GOLDFARB. CELESTE, UH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? [05:25:01] I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS CELESTE GOLDFARB. I LIVE ON THE NEXT BLOCK ON 7 8 2 4 COLLINS AVENUE. I AM NOT AS PREPARED AS ALL THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT I WANT TO ALSO OPPOSE THE HOTEL. I LIVED HERE FOR 14 YEARS. I HAVE DOGS AND CHILDREN THAT USE THE ALLEY TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THIS WOULD MAKE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE RESIDENTS. ALSO, THE BEACH, THE BEACH IS ALREADY SO CROWDED. AND MY THIRD POINT IS THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL AND RICH NEIGHBORHOODS IN FRONT. SO WE HAVE TO PROTECT ALTO DEL MAR ALSO AND EVERYTHING THAT IS AROUND US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? NEXT WE HAVE IPHONE PEREN TWO, IPHONE PEREN TWO. CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME? NO. OKAY. I GUESS WE'RE OKAY. YES. YEP, THEY DISAPPEARED. OKAY. AND THERE ARE NO OTHER, NO OTHER HANDS RAISED. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ARE YOU COMING UP FOR A REBUTTAL OR YES. CAN WE IF I MAY? SURE. I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. I MEAN, I FIRST WANNA SAY THAT OUR, OUR WHOLE TEAM IS HERE. IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, I THINK IT'LL BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER COME UP AND SPEAK. WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IN A MINUTE. LET, LET'S LET THEM, I WANNA LET THEM DO THE GUIDANCE. BUT, UM, FOR A FEW ITEMS THAT I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS, OUR APPLICATION IS A HUNDRED PERCENT PROPER. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, IT GETS TO A PERSON WHO IS A APPROPRIATE AUTHORIZED SIGNATORY AS SUBMITTED. WE HAVE A FULL DISCLOSURE IN OUR APPLICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT THERE IS A MISREPRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE A FULLY, UH, APPROPRIATE APPLICATION. SIGNATURE DISCLOSURE OF INTEREST, UM, SUBMITTED PROPERLY IN THE RECORD FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW. UM, THIS APARTMENT HOTEL IS A PERMITTED USE. WE ARE NOT HERE. IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY SPECIAL APPROVAL. THERE'S NO CONDITIONAL USE NEEDED FOR IT. IT IS ALLOWED, AND IT'S NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD. IT WASN'T UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING BOARD EITHER TO SAY YAY OR NAY TO THE USE. NOW OPERATIONS HAVE GOTTEN EXTENSIVELY, UH, REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED. THE ADRIAN DID A TRAFFIC STUDY VETTED BY THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THEIR CONSULTANT. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ROUNDS AND COMMENTS AND THAT ALL, UM, RESULTED IN A, UH, APPROPRIATE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL, SUPPORTIVE, UH, LETTER FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. A FEW CO, UH, CONDITIONS, WHICH ROGELIO READ INTO THE RECORD, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY IN THE DRAFT ORDER. THOSE SAME CONDITIONS ARE IN OUR PLANNING BOARD ORDER AS WELL. UM, THAT IS FOR THE OPERATION, THAT IS FOR THIS APARTMENT HOTEL SMALL AS IT IS FOR 14 UNITS WITH ONE RESIDENCE. UM, THAT HAS ALL BEEN VETTED. AND THE ONLY SPECIAL REQUEST THAT WE HAD WAS FOR THE MECHANICAL LIFTS. AND THAT HAS BEEN VETTED AND APPROVED. THAT HAD LENGTHY CRITERIA. ALSO, STAFF REVIEWED THAT. UM, AND WE ARE IN FULL COMPLIANCE. SO, AND A HOTEL IS A HOTEL. A HOTEL LETS YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, RENT FOR WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME AS ANY HOTEL THAT YOU GO TO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. WE HAVE A ONE RESIDENCE THAT WOULD BE WHERE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL COULD HAPPEN. THAT'S FOR OUR MANAGEMENT. UM, WE'RE NOT PLANNING FOR THAT TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S HOTEL VERSUS RESIDENCE, CONDO, APARTMENTS THAT COULD DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND HAVE IN SOME PLACES. THAT IS NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. IT'S A, A BONAFIDE HOTEL FOR THOSE 14 UNITS. UM, FAR I'M, THERE'S AND ONE, SORRY. YEAH, I WAS GONNA, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE MORE DISCUSSION. SURE. IF ONE, YEAH. ONE MORE THING WAS, UH, YES, THERE WAS, THIS OWNER HAS HAD THE PROPERTY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. THERE WAS A VIOLATION WHEN THE HOMELESS CAME ON AND, UH, UH, CREATED A TRASH PROBLEM. THEY ADDRESSED THIS IMMEDIATELY AND A VIOLATION IS NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, VALID AND IT WAS PROPERLY CLOSED OUT. AND THEY HAVE A TENANT THERE THAT IS THERE FOR SAFETY, BUT ALSO, UH, KEEPING UP THE LANDSCAPING OF THE [05:30:01] PROPERTY AND KEEPING IT AS BEAUTIFUL AS THEY CAN. SO IT, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS SINCE. SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE'S A STEWARDSHIP PROBLEM. THEY TOOK, IT TOOK, THEY HAD A PROBLEM, THEY ADDRESSED IT RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE DOING. AND, UH, WITH THAT, OUR TEAM IS HERE TO, UH, HELP YOU WITH, UH, ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH, UM, I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION. IT, WAS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU HADN'T? JUST, IF YOU COULD JUST DO ONE MINUTE AND THEN ONE MINUTE. OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE, BUT IT JUST HAS TO BE QUICK BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO WRAP THIS UP. THE PETITIONER WAS 77, UM, COLLINS AVENUE, LLC. THE PLANS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE THIS, WAS MYRA, CAPITAL LLC. THEY'RE NOT THE SAME COMPANIES. IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPENING UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. UM, ADAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. I WILL START WITH THE ALLEYWAY. THE ALLEYWAY IS, IS IN A ALLOWED USE FOR SERVICING THE BUILDING. DIDN'T NEED ANY SPECIAL PERMISSION TO USE THE ALLEYWAY AS A, AS A, AS AN EGRESS OF CAR. IT'S ACTUALLY THE PREFERRED USE BY CITY STAFF FOR US TO ACCESS, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY AN FDOT, UH, STREET. SO ACTUALLY GETTING ACCESS THAT CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION IS FAIRLY, UH, COMPLICATED. SO I THINK, UH, ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, JUST LIKE ALL THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS, AS YOU HEARD, TESTIMONY FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS, THEY ALL USE THE ALLEY, ALL THE BUILDINGS, ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY, INGRESS AND EGRESS. OKAY. AND THAT IS A MORE, I THINK, PREFERRED. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. IT WAS STATE, STATE, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR IT THAT IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS A SPECIAL REQUEST THAT THIS MAKES, MAKES SENSE TO ME. UM, I'LL GET INTO, INTO DESIGN, UM, AND IT IS A NICE BUILDING. REMINDS ME OF SOME, SOME OTHER, OTHER PROJECTS. UM, I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WOOD MM-HMM . VERTICAL, HORIZONTAL, UM, AND ON THE GROUND LEVEL. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME, SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE PALLET BEING NOT QUITE FITTING IN, BUT I'M CURIOUS ON, ON YOUR, YOUR CHOICE TO USE SO MUCH CLA WOOD CLADDING, DARK WOOD CLADDING ON ALL THESE PLACES AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AS THERE DESIGN. WELL, I THINK AS WE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SEE ARCHITECTURE CHANGE IN THIS CITY, UH, IT HAS, YOU'VE SEEN PROJECTS COME AROUND AS SUCH AS FAINA AND, AND OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THAT ARE USING MORE MATERIALITY THAN THE STANDARD STUCCO THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND SO IN THIS CASE, WE REALLY WANTED TO BRING IN SOMETHING THAT HAD A LOT MORE TEXTURE AND A LOT MORE RICHNESS TO THE FACADE, UH, THAN JUST THE PLAIN WHITE STUCCO THAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE BOARD. UH, THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF THE 2000 TO 2010 SIGNATURE, UH, MODERN, UH, MIAMI BEACH STYLE. SO IT'S REALLY TRYING TO BRING THIS, ELEVATE THIS DESIGN TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL. YEAH. IT SEEMED, IT'S, IT, DO YOU MIND IF I, GO AHEAD PLEASE. I FIRST, I WANNA APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT I THINK IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL DESIGN. UM, THIS IS A SMALL PARCEL. AND OVERALL MY IMPRESSION IS THIS IS VERY THOUGHTFUL, ESPECIALLY HOW YOU ORIENTED, UM, THE ROOMS ON THE SIDE FACING THE OCEAN AS OPPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH WAS A CONCERN OF MINE WHEN I DID A SITE VISIT. UM, I AGREE WITH ADAM, YOU KNOW, AND I SHOULD ALSO, OVERALL THE BUILDING FEELS A LITTLE HEAVY TO ME. UM, AND I DO THINK IT, IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE PALETTE. UM, I THINK THAT AS A GESTURE, A CANTILEVER IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. UM, AND BECAUSE IT PLAYS WITH A SENSE OF LIGHTNESS AND SUPPORT, UM, AND WEIGHT. AND SO THE IMPRESSION THAT I'M GETTING FROM THIS DESIGN, ESPECIALLY SAY, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE COLLINS AVENUE ELEVATION, BUT IN GENERAL, IS OVERALL THE BUILDING FEELS REALLY HEAVY TO ME. AND, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAD PICKED UP WHEN THEY HAD ENCOURAGED A SORT OF NICHE ON THE FRONT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE THE, UM, THE BANDING IS SO THICK. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE THICK BANDS AND THE DARK WOOD IN SO MANY PLACES, BUT, UM, THAT WAS JUST MY IMPRESSION OF, OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE. [05:35:01] UM, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH ADAM THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF, I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW WHAT IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT ARE VERY, LIKE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT THE FASHION WAS. AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY STRUCTURE THAT WE SEE HAS THIS FAUX WOOD PANELING SITUATION. UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE. I, I MEAN, I, I GO BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND THERE IS SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE AND ELEGANT ABOUT IT, UM, THAT THE PALLET IS SO REDUCED, BUT IT'S ALSO A LOT OF DARK WOOD PANELING. UM, DO YOU HAVE, I I DO YOU HAVE A RENDERING OF THE SOUTH ELEVATION WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THE NORTH? 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S EVEN MORE SECTIONS OF WOOD CLAD WALLS ON THE SOUTH. IS THAT THE SOUTH ON THE, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH THE NORTH. SEE, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH, BECAUSE IF I'M NOT WRONG, ON THE SOUTH, THERE'S LESS FENESTRATION. YES. ON THE SOUTH THERE IS LESS, UH, FENESTRATION, UH, THAT IS WHERE OUR CORE SITS, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBOR. AND THEY TOO, THE NEIGHBOR ON THE SOUTH HAVE A LIMITED, VERY LIMITED, UH, OPENINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED PER CODE. I THINK WE'RE LIMITED TO 15% BASED ON THE SETBACK THAT WE HAVE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO JUST LIKE OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH, THEY HAVE THESE TINY LITTLE PUNCH WINDOWS. WE JUST HAVE SOME, WE HAVE LARGE FLOOR TO CEILING WINDOWS LIMITED BY THE, UM, YEAH, THE FENESTRATION. NOW WE'D BE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD STUDY, UM, ALTERNATE KIND OF COLOR PALETTES WITH THE, THE CLADDING, BUT WE DO WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE CLAD AND NOT STUCK OUT. WE DO WANT IT TO HAVE THAT QUALITY THAT YOU SEE WITH THE, THE, THE CLADDING. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING THIS METAL, UH, PANEL CLADDING. I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE, THE MAIN INTENT THERE IS THAT IT, IT NEEDS TO HAVE THAT RICHNESS AND THAT LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION AND QUALITY. UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE AND MORE ON MIAMI BEACH WITH ALL THE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. UM, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR PALETTE THAT, THAT MATERIAL THAT'S THERE, THAT ALUMINUM, IT COMES IN DIFFERENT SHADES AND DIFFERENT COLORS AND PALETTES. I MEAN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND UM, YOU KNOW, COME TO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF ALTERNATING PATTERN, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ELEVATION THERE. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PREFERRED VERSION. AND REALLY IT KIND OF REMINDS US OF THOSE, THESE BEAUTIFUL LUXURY HOMES THAT YOU SEE BUILT THAT ARE ALL CLOUD WITH THE WOOD. YES. YOU START TO SEE A LOT. IT IS THE TREND. THAT'S WHAT IT VERY MUCH IS. IT IS THE TREND AND IT IS VERY POPULAR AND IT DOES KIND OF SCREAM THAT RICHNESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. UM, YEAH, NO, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT WAS WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S VERY SENSITIVELY DESIGNED AND, AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S JUST OPPORTUNITIES OR LIKE, I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD CHANGE. I THINK IF ANYTHING IT'S THAT IT'S ALL THE SAME. MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATION, AT LEAST ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR. BUT AGAIN, IT HAS AN ELEGANCE TO IT THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. SO I DON'T KNOW TO, UM, LAURA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, OH, SORRY, WHERE YOU GUYS YEAH, NO, WE WERE JUST KIND OF THINKING THROUGH WHAT THE, THE BOTTOM, MAYBE MORE INCORPORATING THE TRAVERTINE STONE OR SOMETHING ON THE FIRST FLOOR COULD KIND OF LIGHTEN. I, YEAH, IT'S, THIS IS VERY OBJECT. THERE WAS A, UM, THE MATERIALS THAT YOU ALL PASSED AROUND, THERE WAS A STONE MM-HMM . IF SOME OF THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT LAUREN LESTER WERE SAYING INTO THE FRONT FACADE, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE WOOD PANELING. YEAH. I MEAN, IT WOULD LIGHTEN IT UP. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS VERY UN TREND. I MEAN, WE JUST SAW THE MURANO JUST AS REDOING THEIR SIGN AND IT WOULD MATCH THIS. EXACTLY. IT'S LIKE, ALMOST LIKE, LIKE I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S, IT IS A LITTLE DARK, BUT I DON'T KNOW. IT'S KIND OF, IT SEEMS LIKE WHERE WE'RE HEADING AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING FRESHENS IT UP AND THEN, BUT I, YEAH, MAYBE INCORPORATING SOME MORE NATURAL, LIKE ACTUALLY NATURAL MATERIALS, NOT THE FAUX, I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE STONE, JUST BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING FOR TEXTURE MM-HMM . AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE TEXTURE. BUT STILL, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE TRAVERTINE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY NICE MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, A VERY NICE MATERIAL. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, YOU COULD INCORPORATE THAT AT THE GROUND LEVEL. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, IS THERE A STORY TO THE, TO THE PROFILE OF THE, OF THE BANDING? UM, WELL, A STORY I, YEAH, I JUST, I WE JUST WANT IT, IT REMINDS ME, I'M TRYING TO RE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IT, MAYBE IT'S FAINA, BUT, UM, THERE'S A FEW PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE PRONOUNCED, THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS PRONOUNCED. AND AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING IT MORE AND MORE. THIS GFRC, IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE MATERIAL NUMBER ONE. [05:40:01] YEAH. AND UTILIZING IT TO, TO HIDE THAT TERRIBLE KIND OF CLADDING. YOU SAW IT AT FAINA, YOU SEE IT NOW, UH, COMING AT THE SHORE CLUB, THE RITZ SAGAMORE GOT APPROVED WITH IT. SO IT'S, IT'S WHAT EVERYTHING IS MOVING TOWARDS. IT'S TO GET RID OF THAT SLAB EDGE CONDITION THAT IS JUST, THAT IT DETERIORATES. AND IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REDOING 'EM AT THE CONTINUUM NOW. I KNOW YOU SEE IT. THEY, IT'S ALL THOSE SLAB ENDS. THIS PROTECTS IT, IT BEAUTIFIES IT. UH, WE'VE DONE IT NOT ONLY THERE, BUT ALSO IN OTHER PARTS OF, UH, UH, LIKE IN SURF SIDE. SO IT'S, UH, I WAS JUST PARTICULARLY ASKING ABOUT THE SHAPE BECAUSE I, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU ARE, WERE MIMICKING BECAUSE I AGREE. IT'S AN, THE PRODUCT TYPE IS NICE. THIS IS WHAT'S AT THE HOSPITAL. YEAH, YEAH. AND YEAH. YEAH. THE HOSPITAL IS UTILIZING IT. I ASSUME IT WON'T STAIN AS MUCH AS IT WON'T BE, IT LESS MAINTENANCE. IT'S NOT PAID, IT'S GOT RESIDENT IN IT. UM, SO I JUST, I, THAT, THAT STUCK OUT TO ME BIG TIME BECAUSE IT'S, WE'VE CANTILEVER, WE CAN, WELL, IT'S VERY MUCH LIKE THE FRAMES FROM TWO AND A HALF FEET THICK OR MORE. UM, AND THEN YOU MAKE THE UNDERSIDES WITH A DARK, WITH A DARK WOOD. IT FEELS HEAVY. I, I WOULD GO WITH THE UNDERSIDES. LIGHTENING UP THE UNDERSIDES. YEAH. YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT EDWIN IS HERE TO TELL ME, IS THAT AT THE FRONT, AT THE GROUND LEVEL, THAT'S ALL I GLASS, YOU KNOW, UH, WALL I HAVE, AND WHAT YOU SEE FRONT ELEVATION, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT THE WOOD IN ON THAT LEVEL IS ACTUALLY INSIDE THE LOBBY. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE INTERIOR, WHICH CAN BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. BUT NO, I WAS THINKING ON THE OUTSIDE, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHERE THE FRONT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO THE BALCONIES AND THE, THE, THE PRESENCE THAT THE FRONT AND THOSE BOUNDARIES HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT IS DIFFERENT AT THE GROUND LEVEL THAN ON THE SIDES. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. YEAH, YEAH. I HAD THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, UM, AS LAURA AND LESTER, THAT IT WAS, UM, THE CLA THE BROWN CLAD THAT YOU WERE USING. NO, BUT IT'S THE INTERIOR OF THE LOBBY. IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU CAN SHARE THE SCREEN OF THE PRESENTATION THERE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, THAT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION. IT'S ALL GLASS. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO IT IS JUST GLASS FACADE THAT STEPS BACK INTO, AND THERE IS A LOT LESS OF THE CLADDING ON THE FRONT. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE AS IT GOES UP. THE BUILDING, THE STONE THAT YOU PASSED AROUND, UM, IS IT UTILIZED ONLY IN THE TOP FLOOR WHERE THE POOL IS? THE FLOORING IS FOR THE FLOOR, THE FLOORING. FOR THE FLOORING EVERYWHERE OF ALL THE, OKAY. UM, I LIKE THE BALCONIES. I THINK THEY'RE REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND DIFFERENT. UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THEM AND, AND YOU DON'T, UH, SEE THEM ALL THE PLACES. BUT I THINK THE, UM, LANDSCAPING ON IT, IF IT CAN BE MAINTAINED, UH, WOULD BE, UH, NICE. BUT I THINK THE STYLE OF THE BALCONY, INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST PLAIN STUCCO GOING DOWN, UM, MAKES IT VERY INTERESTING. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU INCORPORATED PARKING, UM, WHEN PARKING WASN'T REQUIRED. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY A 14 ROOM, UH, HOTEL, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT TO BE THE COST PER ROOM PER NIGHT? HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF THAT? IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T, IT'S OKAY. NO, WE HAVEN'T TO TRANSLATE. SORRY. OH YEAH, WE, WE HAVE YOU THINK ABOUT IT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. JUST, UH, BUT I, WE APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE INCO IN INCORPORATING PARKING. I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO THOSE LIFTS, SO IT WASN'T, UM, SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER LAST HOTEL. YEAH. THE LAST HOTEL HAD THE SAME, UM, WIDTH, 50 FEET WIDE LOT. OF COURSE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ALLEY ENTRANCE IN THE BACK, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE, UH, THE AMENITIES, UH, THAT YOU HAVE, UH, WITH THE LIFT AND THE, UH, PARKING IN, UM, ROGELIO FOR YOU, IN THE, UM, ZONING, IT SAYS THAT EXISTING USE IS MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS IS HOTEL, I THINK IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL, ISN'T IT? SO IS THAT OKAY OR CAN YOU TELL ME ON THAT IN, SO THE, THE ZONING IS RM ONE. THE RM ONE GENERALLY IS A FULLY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. HOWEVER, THE CITY, THE, THE ZONING CODE INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT NORTH OF, AND LET ME, LET ME READ IT EXACT. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S NORTH OF 73RD STREET, BUT LET ME READ IT EXACTLY TO YOU. YEAH, YEAH. AND THIS IS THE DIAGRAM THAT I SHOWED YOU. YEAH, I HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN TOO, IF YOU WANNA SHARE. IT SAYS THAT THERE'S A SUBSET OF IT. GO AHEAD. IT SAYS, UH, APARTMENT [05:45:01] HOTELS, HOTELS AND SUITE HOTELS FOR PROPERTIES FRONTING HARDING AVENUE ARE COLLINS AVENUE FROM THE CITY LINE ON THE NORTH TO 73RD STREET ON THE SOUTH, UM, UM, ALLOWS, SO BASICALLY THAT'S, THAT'S AN ALLOWED USE IN THOSE AREAS. SO BETWEEN 73RD AND 79TH IT'S ALLOWED. AND THAT BECAME WAS BETWEEN 73RD AND 87TH AND 87TH. AND WHEN DID THAT, WAS THAT A CHANGE IN THE CODE THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE I'VE WORKED AT THE CITY GOING ON YEAR 12. SO IT'S , SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE, UH, SEVERAL RESIDENTS, UH, BROUGHT IT UP. AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. UM, IT'S VERY MUCH ALLOWED AS PART OF THE CODE. UM, AND THE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE, UM, PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE SHOWS THE SAME NAME AS THE APPLICANT ON THIS, UM, PROJECT, WHICH IS 77 10 COLLINS AVENUE, LLC WHAT THAT OTHER NAME, MYRA, UH, SOMETHING OR OTHER, UH, ON THE PLANS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DISCUSS WITH THEM. BUT THE APPLICATION ITSELF SHOWS THE SAME OWNER AS THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS OFFICE FROM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. I, I LIKE THE PROJECT VERY MUCH. I THINK IF YOU CAN LIGHTEN, UM, THE, THE SIDE, UM, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE IT EVEN MORE. I LIKE THE WOOD UNDERNEATH THE, UH, CEILING OF THE BALCONIES AS OPPOSED TO MY COUNTER ARCHITECT HERE. BUT, UM, THE BALCONIES I LIKE VERY MUCH AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THE PLANTERS AND THE FAR LEFT, UH, BOARD FACADE, THE NORTH, THE EAST FACADE, THERE'S LIKE FOUR, FOUR FLOORS OF PLANTERS, BUT THEN THERE'S ONLY TWO, TWO TOP FLOORS OF PLANTERS ON THE OTHER EXAM. EXAMPLE, THESE YES, THERE'S ONLY IN THE TOP TWO FLOORS AND THAT EXAMPLE, BUT ON THE FAR LEFT, THERE'S FOUR FLOORS. IS THERE? AH, THE FAR LEFT IS THE REAR. OH, THE REAR OR THE BUILDING? THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. OH, OKAY. SORRY. I SEE THAT TO THE ALLEY. THAT'S TO THE ALLEY. COULD YOU DO THE SAME THING IN FRONT AS, AS WHERE AS REAR ALL FOUR FLOORS ARE, UM, HANGING PLANTERS. I MEAN, WE, WE COULD, THOSE, THOSE BALCONIES ARE SMALLER, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE NOT THERE. I SEE. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH BECAUSE OF THE CARVE OUT IN THE MIDDLE. UM, BE HARD TO ADD. SO IT'S HARD TO ADD IT. YES, YES. IT WOULD BE HARD TO ADD IT THERE. OKAY. UM, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ABOUT THE USE IN THE HOTEL. I KNOW THAT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ARE OTHER SMALL HOTELS. UM, AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE ABOUT A HOTEL NOT BEING NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION ON AND OR PLANNING OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GETTING? IS THIS THE BEST VERSION, HOW THIS CAN CONTRIBUTE? UM, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SORT OF CONTEXT, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE CALLED IN ABOUT. OH, I DID HAVE A CONCERN, UM, WITH THE ALLEY. 'CAUSE AGAIN, I WAS THERE AND THE ALLEY IS NARROW, AND I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ON THE BLOCK ACCESS THE PARKING THROUGH THE ALLEY. UM, ARE THERE, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC, THE, THE GARBAGE TRUCK IS GONNA COME DOWN TO SERVE ALL THE BUILDINGS, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DELIVERY, THE DELIVERIES AND SERVICING OF THE HOTEL, ARE THERE CONDITIONS OF WHEN THAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN? OR HOW HAS THIS ISSUE COME UP IN THE PAST? IS IT COMMON TO HAVE THE HOTEL MAIN SORT OF SERVICE EGRESS BE AN ALLEY? UM, WHEN, WHEN HOTELS DO HAVE AN ALLEY, YES. I WOULD SAY IN, IN SOUTH BEACH A LOT OF THE HOTELS HAVE AN ALLEY AND, AND THE MAJORITY OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON IS HAPPENING IN THE ALLEY, NECESSARILY SHARED BY RESIDENTS. THAT IS TRUE. MOST OF THE ALLEYS IN SOUTH BEACH ARE NOT, UH, LINED BY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE ARE SOME, BUT MOST OF THEM, UM, IN THE, IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ARE, ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE. UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS WHAT THE ALLEY IS FOR. IT IS INTENDED TO SERVICE THE BUILDING. UH, STAFF GENERALLY PREFERS WHEN, WHEN PARKING IS ACCESSED THROUGH THE ALLEY BECAUSE WE LIKE TO AVOID CURB CUTS ON THE PRIMARY PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR, UH, WHICH IN THIS CASE IT'S COLLINS AVENUE. SO WE WOULD, WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO AVOID CURB CUTS ON PRIMARY FRONTAGES AND IF ALLEYS ARE AVAILABLE, THAT'S TYPICALLY STAFF'S PREFERENCE TO HAVE, UM, THE PARKING ACCESS THROUGH THE ALLEY. UM, AND IF I MAY ADD, THANK YOU AGAIN, THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD APPLICATION IN OUR APPROVED CONDITIONS, UH, THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AS I MENTIONED, RIGHT. ALL OF OUR LOADING OPERATIONS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE ON OUR PROPERTY, AND THERE'S ANOTHER CONDITION THAT SAYS ALL THE LOADING AND TRASH COLLECTION ARE FROM 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM SO YEAH. YEAH. THOSE, THOSE ARE CONDITIONS [05:50:01] THAT ARE, ARE FOR OUR USE TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE HOURS DO NOT APPLY TO THE RESIDENTS ON THE SAME ALLEY. YEAH. YEAH. UM, IL DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, THIS, YOU GOOD? I FEEL LIKE IT'S BETTER TO HAVE, IN GENERAL, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE MIXED USE PROP MIX OF USES THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK IC WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL, SO MM-HMM . A BOUTIQUE HOTEL AT , SO I LIKE THE DESIGN, I LIKE, I LIKE THE USE OF IT. YEAH. I, I, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT'S A, I LIKE THAT IT'S, IT'S SMALL, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS REDEVELOPING AND, AND I THINK IT'S VERY SENSITIVELY DONE. UM, AND YEAH, A LOVELY DESIGN. UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT MAYBE I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. I WOULD JUST LOVE YOU TO, NOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, SOME DESIGN RELATED FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT DOES HAVE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING A LITTLE HEAVY. IS THAT IN YOUR INTENT, MAYBE EXPLORE THE MATERIALITY OF, UM, ALL THE WOOD ALONG THE BOTTOM FLOOR OR THE UNDERSIDE, UM MM-HMM . OF THE EAVES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS GIVING, IT IS A LITTLE BIT HEAVY AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS TO PLAY WITH. UM, I THINK IT HAS THE, THE RESIDENTIAL FEELING OF IT. YEAH. TO JUST TO DO SOME EXERCISES PLAYING AROUND WITH THE, THE, THE MATERIAL PALETTE. THE OTHER THING I FORGOT TO MENTION WAS, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS. I SEE BARBECUES OUTSIDE AND I SEE BIG, BIG BALCONIES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE COMING BACK AND FIGURING OUT LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A PARTITION OR, OR BRINGING IN SOME OF THAT SLAT SLAT, UM, UH, ALUMINUM, UH, CLAD WOOD SLATS AND BREAK THAT UP. JUST IF YOU'RE GONNA INDEED PUT AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN THERE, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE IT UP AGAINST GLASS, SO I THINK YOU'LL FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU FINISH DOING THE DETAILS. BUT MAYBE THAT'S BRINGS SOMETHING IN AND ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVACY TO THE SIDE LOTS, WHICH IS GONNA PROBABLY BE NEEDED. ESPECIALLY. YEAH, I MEAN IT'S TOUGH. I, I JUST, YOU BARELY CAN TELL, BUT THEY ARE BARBECUES, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA END UP DOING ANY BARBECUES OUT THERE. OKAY. NO, NO. EVEN SO I THINK AMENITIES, YEAH, I, I THINK EVEN SO THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOUND OR SOMETHING ON THE DEEPER BALCONIES, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED ON, ON SOME OF THE LOWER ONES NECESSARILY, BUT WHERE THERE, OH, YOU MEAN THE ONES IN THE FRONT, UP FRONT AND, AND MAYBE TO THE BACK, JUST IN THE BACK. JUST SOMETHING, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING WALLS, BUT SOME TYPE OF, LITTLE BIT OF PARTITION OR SOMETHING, UM, WOULD, WOULD ADDRESS 'EM OF THE SOUND CONCERNS WHEN, IF SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE JUST BECAUSE IT IS A BIG BALCONY AND YOU COULD HAVE A NICE PARTY OUT THERE. MM-HMM. UM, WHICH I WOULD, IF I WAS SAYING THAT , I KNOW WELL AND THE VIEWS ARE GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL. YEAH. 'CAUSE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, EAST WEST SO LOW. I, I MEAN I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. UM, I THINK SO TOO. I THINK THIS IS A, THERE'S A MARKET FOR THIS FOR SURE. YEAH. MM-HMM . UM, AND I GET THE ELEGANCE OF IT AND I JUST, I JUST THINK A COUPLE OF MORE YEAH. TWEAKS AND, AND IT, IT'LL BE REALLY SPECIAL. MM-HMM . DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR, UH, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, SO I'M HEARING, HEARING A LOT ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT THE WOOD. SO WE DO HAVE A CONDITION IN THE ORDER THAT YOU MAY WANNA MODIFY IN THE DRAFT ORDER, UM, THAT SAYS THE FINAL DESIGN DETAILS INCLUDING MATERIAL SAMPLES AND COLORS OF THE WOOD ALUMINUM FINISHES PROPOSED ON THE FRONT EAST AND SIDE NORTH AND SOUTH AND REAR WEST ELEVATION SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN A MANNER TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA AND OR THE DIRECTIONS FROM THE BOARD. SO IF, IF THE THOUGHT IS THAT SOME OF THE WOOD ON, ON SOME OF THOSE ELEVATIONS WOULD BE REPLACED WITH ANOTHER MATERIAL, WE MAY WANT TO AMEND THIS CONDITION, UM, TO EXPLORE OTHER, OTHER TYPES OF MATERIALS WITH STAFF OR IF YOU WANT TO GIVE MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON THAT. UM, JUST SOMETHING FOR CONSIDERATION, WE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THE USE OF THE STONE THAT THEY'RE USING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BRING BACK TO YOU OR IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US, WE'RE HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO REVIEW CHANGES IF YOU'D LIKE FOR THEM TO EXPLORE. AND IT'S MORE ON THE, UM, ON THE SIDE ELEVATIONS MM-HMM . 'CAUSE THE FRONT IS GLASS, SO, UM, IT MAY CHANGE IF THE INTERIOR OF THE LOBBY CHANGES COLOR . YEAH. SO I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO THE CONDITION WOULD BE TO EXPLORE THE MATERIALITY. CONSIDER A STONE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT STONE. RIGHT. BUT SOME STONE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF PLACEMENT OF, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO REMOVE ALL OF THE WOOD. IT WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST SAY SORT OF PLAY AROUND WITH IT. LIKE, I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT [05:55:01] JUST TO SORT OF PLAY AROUND WITH IT AND SEE WHAT WORKS. BECAUSE OVERALL THE IMPRESSION IS IT'S DARK, IT'S HEAVY, BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES. AND AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S THE WOOD ALONG THE SIDES, ON THE WALLS, THE EASE, WHATEVER. YEAH. BE HAPPY TO, IS THAT MORE CLEAR WORK WITH SUB? DEFINITELY. AND I, I DEFINITELY, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF TO YES. WE LOVE WORKING WITH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GLOBAL CHANGE. I JUST TWEAK A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT TONE, FULL SOFTENING MAYBE AT THE GROUND LEVEL TONE, TONE, COLOR FOR THE WOOD AND, AND MAYBE USE OF YOUR, YOUR PALETTE YOU HAVE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. RIGHT. I THINK THE CONCEPT IS GOOD AND MAYBE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SOUND ON THE BALCONIES IN, IN A, IN A ELEGANT MANNER. YEAH. ARE YOU, AREN'T YOU ALL RESTRICTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AS TO THE HOURS? I KNOW YOU'RE RESTRICTED ON TRASH PICKUP AND DELIVERIES, UH, BECAUSE OF NOISE. DID THEY, DID THE PLANNING BOARD WHEN YOU WENT TO THEM SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UM, PARTIES BEING HELD ON BALCONIES OR IN THE HOTEL? WELL, THE, THE ROOFTOP, WE ACTUALLY PROFFERED THAT OURSELVES UHHUH TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. SO THAT'S THE 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM IS THE RESTRICTED HOURS. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN LIMIT SOMEONE'S USE OF BALCONY. WELL, AND I THINK ISN'T 11:00 PM ANYWAY IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE, NOISE ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE ACTUALLY APPLIES ALL DAY LONG. WELL, THE MORE STRINGENT PROVISION, BUT, BUT YEAH. BUT I THINK, UH, YEAH, I THINK WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NOISE, WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY HAS, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T, I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THE BALCONIES. AND YOU'VE RESTRICTED YOURSELVES ALREADY TO THE USE OF THE POOL AREA UP ON THE ROOF, SO, OKAY. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE DRB 25 11 40 AT 77 10 COLLINS AVENUE WITH THE CONDITION THAT YOU LOOK AT THE INCORPORATION OF STONE, WHERE THERE IS SOME WOOD CLADDING RIGHT NOW ON THE SIDES IN THE FRONT, UM, WITH THAT CONDITION. THANKS. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT WE HAVE MOTION BY MS. VAL. THE SECOND WAS BY MS. LEWIN. YES. OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MM-HMM. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AND THAT IS THE END OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE YOU IN JANUARY. HE'S. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.