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MORNING EVERYBODY.WE HAVE OUR NEW MEMBERS WELCOME.
UM, AND I'LL READ THE NAMES SPEAK SO I DON'T MESS IT UP HERE.
UH, ANDRES AND JESSICA MENAGE.
ARE ANY MEMBERS MYRA'S OUT? UM, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN DO ATTENDANCE FORMAL.
RUN ME THROUGH THIS MY FIRST TIME.
I'LL DO A, UH, I'LL CALL ATTENDANCE, UM, UM, AND I'LL GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
SO, ANDREA HERE, UH, IS ABSENT, UH, AKIL LESTER.
SO WE HAVE FIVE OF SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UM, SO THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE.
UM, ANY DESIGN REVIEW CAN BE APPROVED WITH FOUR VOTES.
ANY VARIANCES WILL REQUIRE FIVE VOTES.
SO ANY VARIANCES WILL REQUIRE A UNANIMOUS DECISION FOR ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND HAS AN APPLICATION COMING BEFORE US.
[ CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES MEMORANDUM MARCH 12, 2026]
ANY UPDATES? THANK YOU.TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL.
AND APPLICANT'S STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9.
AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
MUST CLICK THE HAYES RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY, OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT, OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD DO SO PRIOR TO APPEARING.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.
YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION IN THIS MEETING, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO AN ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
I'LL NOW SWEAR IN EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY.
VIRTUAL SPEAKERS MAY NEED TO BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.
SO IF YOU'LL BE GIVING TESTIMONY TODAY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU SWEAR THAT TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
[1. AFTER ACTION JANUARY 8, 2026 ( FEBRUARY 12, 2026 MEETING CANCELED)]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY, SO WE'RE APPROVING WE IN IN FEBRUARY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE APPROVING JANUARY'S MINUTES.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO WE HAVE A SEC? SECOND WAS MS. STILLMAN SECOND? YEP.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NO MOTION PASSES.
UM, AND NOTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.
WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS? WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS.
[2. DRB25-1100, 28 VENETIAN WAY RIGHT-OF-WAY.]
DO HAVE A FEW CONTINUANCES AND WITHDRAWALS.UM, SO, SO THAT THE BOARD IS AWARE, UM, DRB 25 1100, THAT'S FOR 28 VENETIAN WAY RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THAT WAS, THAT'S BEEN CONTINUED REGULARLY.
WE WILL RE-NOTICE THE APPLICATION ONCE IT'S READY TO PROCEED.
UM, SO NO NEED FOR ANY ACTION THERE.
[3. DRB25-1150, 2100 MERIDIAN AVENUE.]
25, 11 50, THAT'S 2100 MERIDIAN AVENUE.THAT IS, UM, THAT WAS A CITY PROJECT.
THE CITY COMMISSION, UM, HAS, UH, CANCELED THE
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PROJECT.SO THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD.
UM, SO NO ACTION IS NEEDED ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. UM,
[6. DRB25-1146, 1 OCEAN DRIVE.]
AND THEN WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM CONTIN FOR CONTINUANCE, UM, FOR ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS.UM, STAFF RECOMMENDED A CONTINUANCE IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, DUE TO SOME ISSUES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT NEED TO GET ON THEIR WAY BEFORE THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IS HERE TO, UM, RIGHT TO CONCUR.
SO, UH, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, 200 SOUTH, A KING BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WHAT RAHEL WAS REFERRING TO IS THAT CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
EVERY COMP PLAN HAS A FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
AND WITHIN THE LAND USE ELEMENT THERE'S A MAP, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS DESIGNATED RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, BUT THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION DOES NOT PERMIT COMMERCIAL USES.
SO PEN RODS IS NON-CONFORMING.
YOU KNOW, OUR SUCCESSOR ENTITY THAT WE REPRESENT WILL DO COMMERCIAL USES THERE.
SO IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO RE-DESIGNATE IT TO SOMETHING CALLED PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHICH IS JUST LIKE THE MIAMI BEACH MARINA AND THAT IT PERMITS COMMERCIAL USES.
SO ONCE IT'S RE-DESIGNATED, WE'LL COME BACK BEFORE YOU ALL RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING COMEBACK BEFORE YOU ALL ON JULY 9TH.
DO WE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCES? IF YOU, YES, IF YOU CAN, IF WE GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE JULY MEETING, WHAT WOULD, UM, DO WE HAVE THE DATE? JULY 9TH.
[10. DRB25-1160, 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE.]
HAVE, UH, ONE MORE CONTINUANCE REQUEST.IT INVOLVES THE LAST ITEM OF YOUR AGENDA, UH, D RRB 25 DASH 11 60 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE.
OUR CLIENT, ROBERT ANI, IS HEAVILY INVOLVED CLIENT, HE LIKES TO BE AT ALL HEARINGS.
SO WE'RE SECONDLY REQUESTING TO MOVE THIS APPLICATION TO THE NEXT MONTH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE APRIL MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN, SECOND BY MR. LESTER.
AFTER APRIL, YEAH, THE PRIOR ONE WAS FOR JULY 9TH.
SO THAT'S APRIL 10TH, I BELIEVE.
OKAY, NOW WE WILL START WITH THE REST OF THE ITEMS, UM, ABDA.
[4. DRB25-1088, 6945 ABBOTT AVENUE.]
OKAY.THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS D RRB 25 10 88.
THIS APPLICATION HAVE BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SIX STORY MIXED USE HOTEL BUILDING, INCLUDING A VARIANCE TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A DESIGNATED LOADING SPACE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS.
SO THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, A FEW TIMES.
UH, THE ITEM FIRST CAME TO THE BOARD ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2025.
THE ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AND CONTINUED TO THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED TO THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.
UM, ON DECEMBER 11TH MEETING, UH, THE DRB APPROVED THE TWO VARIANCES, UH, THAT WERE PART OF THE APPLICATION.
SO THOSE ARE NO LONGER UNDER CONSIDERATION.
THOSE ARE CONSIDERED APPROVED.
THOSE WERE VARIANCES REGARDING THE, UM, ON STREET LOADING, UM, AND REMOVAL OF, OF, UH, OF THE OFF STREET LOADING REQUIREMENT.
UM, THEN, UH, AND THEN THE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE PROJECT WAS CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
UH, THE FEBRUARY MEETING WAS CANCELED, AND SO THE ITEM IS BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, INCORPORATED SEVERAL REVISIONS TO THE FACADE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE DRB.
UM, SO, UM, PRIMARILY, UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE REVISED THE MATERIAL SYSTEM BEING USED ON THE FACADE.
SO THEY'RE USING A, UH, METAL, UH, PERFORATED METAL SCREENING SYSTEM THAT INCLUDES SOME, UH, MOVEMENT ALONG THE FRONT AND NOR AND NORTHERN FACADES.
UM, THEY HAVE INCORPORATED SOME GLASS ELEMENTS INTO THE BALCONIES SO THAT THEY READ MOORE'S BALCONIES AND IMPROVE THE VIEWS FOR THE GUESTS STAYING IN THE HOTEL.
UM, THEY HAVE, UH, UH, REVISED, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, THE RAILINGS IS PART OF THAT AS WELL.
SO IT, IT DOES PROVIDE SOME INTERESTING MOVEMENT IN THE FACADE.
OPENS UP THE FACADE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND STAFF, STAFF, UH, BELIEVES THAT
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THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM THE PRIOR PROPOSAL.AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE APPROVED ON THE SOUTHERN FACADE.
UM, THEY, THE BUILDING IS UP AGAINST A PUBLIC STORAGE BUILDING.
IT'S A PRETTY BLANK BUILDING, SO THE SOUTHERN FACADE WON'T BE TOO VISIBLE.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THE UPPER LEVELS OF THAT FACADE WILL BE VISIBLE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UM, THAT THERE BE, UM, SOME, UM, SOME ADDIT, SOME PATTERNED, UH, MATERIALS TO CREATE SOME INTERESTING CIRCULAR PATTERNS ON THAT FACADE SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A BLANK WALL.
UM, THAT WALL IS, IS WHERE THE, UH, BACK OF HOUSE, THE ELEVATOR CORE, THE STAIRWELLS, UM, WILL BE LOCATED.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR MOVEMENT ON THAT FACADE.
UM, SO THEY'RE INCORPORATING SOME OF THESE MATERIALS TO PROVIDE SOME VISUAL INTEREST IN THE UPPER LEVELS.
UM, THOUGH IT, IT, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, JUST STAFF HAS A CONCERN THAT IF IT IS CONSIDERED A MURAL THAT WILL OVER A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, THAT WILL REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
UM, IF IT'S, SO IT'S, IF IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING, IT'S OKAY TO PROCEED.
HOWEVER, IF IT IS PAINT, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, THAT WOULD CLAR THAT WOULD QUALIFY IT AS A MURAL, THAT THAT MAY REQUIRE CITY APPROVAL.
SO WE'VE INCORPORATED, INCORPORATED A CONDITION IN THE ATTACHED ORDER THAT SHOULD IT BE DETERMINED TO BE A MURAL, THAT THAT WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION AT A FUTURE DATE.
UM, HOWEVER, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM JUST HAVING A, A, A BLANK WALL.
AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, OF INCORPORATING THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE, UH, PROJECT OF THE DESIGN, UM, AND, UH, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED ORDER.
UM, BEFORE YOU START, ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS APPLICATION? OKAY, THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW, WELCOME.
IT'S AN HONOR, VANESSA MADRID WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HOLLAND KNIGHT AT 7 0 1 BRICKELL AVENUE.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR THEIR ONGOING SUPPORT, WORKING CLOSELY WITH US THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND, UM, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ALSO, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
UM, AS ROGELIO ALLUDED TO, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.
UM, I WAS ACTUALLY ON MATERNITY LEAVE AND BACK, AND MY COLLEAGUES TELL ME THAT WE'RE STILL HERE.
SO I'M HOPING TO WRAP THIS UP TODAY.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE DESIGN TEAM HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND CONCERNS, UH, RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND, UM, WE ARE PROUD TO PRESENT YOU A REFINED DESIGN TODAY, UM, THAT FOCUSED HEAVILY ON THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE ALONG THE POEO, BUT ALSO THE BUILDING'S ARTICULATION AND, UM, SELECTION OF MATERIALS, BUT ALSO THE RELOCATION OF THOSE MATERIALS THROUGHOUT THE FACADES.
WE ARE COMBINING A SERIES OF MATERIALS.
UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PULL THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN, THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, JUST AS A REFRESHER, THIS IS LOCATED AT 69 45 ABBOTT AVENUE.
UM, AND, AND BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, I'M HERE JOINED BY, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AND THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE PROJECT WHO HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AT CAPTURING THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, WHILE THIS IS A SMALL LOT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS, UM, IDENTIFIED AS IT SHOULD BE, AND THAT IT HAS A BIG PERSONALITY REFLECTED THROUGH ITS ARCHITECTURE.
THE LAP, THE LAPTOP IS ON YOUR, UH, LEFT HAND SIDE.
THE, THE LAPTOP'S ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE.
OH, THERE, IT'S, I GUESS I CAN USE THE CLICKER.
SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE FOCUSED ON THE REDESIGN AND REFINEMENT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, GIVING IT SOME MORE MOVEMENT.
WE ADDED SOME GLASS TO THE BALCONIES.
THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE SITE.
UM, THE SITE IS ZONED TCC, WHICH IS A MIXED USE AREA, AND THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE VERTICAL MIXED USE WITHIN THE PROJECT.
WE ARE INTENDING TO USE THE GROUND FLOOR, UM, A PORTION OF IT FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, WHICH WILL BE IDEAL FOR A CAFE.
UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED DESIGN, AND THIS WILL BE A HOTEL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW.
UM, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT JUST A REFRESHER, COMPOSED OF THE GROUND FLOOR LOBBY WITH THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, AS I JUST MENTIONED,
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SIX FLOORS OF HOTEL ROOMS AND A ROOFTOP AMENITY.SO AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUILDING'S RHYTHM, THE PERFORATION OF THE, OF THE FACADE AND THE OVERALL LIGHTNESS.
WE CAME BACK, WE LINED IT UP WITH STUCCO IN A LIGHTER COLOR.
WE CONTINUED THE PERFORATIONS, BUT IN A WAY THAT PRESERVES, UM, THE, THE ABILITY TO LET THE LIGHT FLOW THROUGH.
AND I'M GONNA LET JUAN THE ARCHITECT, WALK YOU THROUGH HIS, UM, VISION.
UM, THANKS FOR SEEING US TODAY.
UM, SO WE TOOK THE, THE CUE FROM, UH, BOARD MEMBER BERG LAST TIME, WHO WAS VERY ADAMANT THAT WE WORKED THROUGH THE RHYTHM OF THE FACADE, THE MATERIALS, AND THE MODULATION.
AND WE, WE RECONSTRUCTED THE, THE, THE SHAPE OF THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING FIRST, SO THAT THE CURVATURE IS A LOT MORE, UH, HARMONIOUS.
BEFORE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO ANGULAR, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THE MATERIALS WERE A LOT STARKER.
AND THE, AND THE PERFORATIONS WERE A LOT MORE, MORE SQUARE.
SO WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE TOOK A, A SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE DID OF SOME OF THE NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS AND BECAME NAMELY MANGROVES.
AND WE DERIVED A PATTERN TO PROVIDE THE MODULATION.
SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A SERIES OF VARIABLE OPENING PERFORATIONS IN THE FACADE THAT WILL CREATE THIS MOVEMENT IN THE FACADE.
AND WHEN YOU OVERLAP THAT WITH THE CURVATURE AND THE CUTS IN THE BALCONIES PROVIDING GLASS FOR THE OPENNESS OF THE ROOMS, YOU SEE THE WHOLE RHYTHM OF THE FACADE COMING, COMING TOGETHER.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW FROM, UM, ABBOTT AND SLIGHTLY LEFT IN THE EO OTHER, OTHER WAY.
SO AS YOU CAN, SO THESE ARE THE, THERE'S A PASSE ON THE LEFT.
UM, ALL THE MATERIALS ON THE GROUND FLOOR ARE KIND OF NATURAL ORGANIC MATERIALS AS PROVIDED IN THE SAMPLE BOARDS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON THE FLOOR OVER THERE.
I CAN PASS 'EM AROUND IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THEY'RE HEAVY
BUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE GROUND IS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH,
UH, THE, THE WOOD MATERIAL THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT YOU SEE IN THE UNDERSIDE OF THE, OF THE SOFFIT IS A WOOD, UH, A COMPOSITE WOOD, UH, METAL CLADDING THAT WE USE, UH, TO, TO GIVE IT, UH, STABILITY AND, UM, AND, AND PREVENT IT FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM HIGH MAINTENANCE AND, AND DEFORMATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE MATERIALS ARE ON THE, ON THE GROUND ARE TEXTURED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NATURAL AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE, UH, MEANT TO OPERATE A GROUND LEVEL WITH LANDSCAPE.
UH, ON, ON THE, ON THE ABOVE, UH, ON THE ABOVE BUILDING THE MESH IS A, A WHITE, KINDER, FINISHED, UH, METAL MESH.
NOT, NOT UNLIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FINS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, EXCEPT THAT IT'S PERFORATED AND, AND, AND BENT.
SO THE RIGHT WAY NOW, OKAY, SO THIS IS THE GROUND FLOOR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S OPEN, UH, IT'S KIND OF PRETTY LIGHT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN AREAS AND LANDSCAPED AREAS.
UM, THE PACIFIC IS ALSO MEANT TO BE OPEN AND, AND, AND PRETTY TRANSPARENT AND NATURAL AND, AND, AND STREET PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED.
UM, THERE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO THAT THE, THE FLAT WOOD PIECE YOU SEE IS THE THING APPLIED TO THE CEILING.
THIS LITTLE WOOD PROFILE IS THE ONE THAT YOU SEE ON THE VERY LEFT COVERING THE FBL WALL THAT WE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF TIMES.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GLASS OR TEXTURED STONE, BASICALLY IN THE TRAVERTINE AND THE, AND THE NATURALS.
SO ANOTHER THING THAT HAD COME UP BEFORE WAS THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN AN INFILL ZONE WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF BIG CONSTRUCTION COMING UP ACROSS THE STREET.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MODEL, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BIG BUILDINGS.
AND THESE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SMALL SITES, THEY'RE STILL KIND OF IN A WAY, UH, THEY'RE STILL KIND OF LIKE BEGGING TO FILL IN THE, THE, THE, THE ZONE.
SO YEAH, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN THEY LOOK IN THE BACK.
THEY'VE BEEN CUT TO FOR EASE OF USE FOR THE MODEL.
BUT THOSE THINGS ARE PRETTY BIG.
HERE'S A, A DIAGRAM THAT EXPLAINS HOW THIS HOUSES, THIS FACADE ATTACHES TOGETHER.
UM, SO YOU SEE A FLAT VERSION OF THE PATTERN ON THE TOP.
THE, THE MOVEMENT IN IT KIND OF WORKS, LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF FABRIC.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE 3D MODEL TO THE LEFT, HOW IT LAYERS ONTO THE BALCONIES, THE RAILING SYSTEM, THE GLAZING, AND
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THE STRUCTURE BEHIND IT.UM, THIS IS THE WALL THAT ROGELIO SPOKE ABOUT, THAT'S SOUTH FACING.
UM, THE IDEA FOR THIS WALL PROVIDED THAT WE NEED TO, WE CANNOT MAKE IT A MURAL, AND WE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH, WE STILL WANNA PROVIDE SOME MOVEMENT SO THAT IT'S NOT A BLANK WALL IN THE FUTURE.
WE ASSUME THAT IT'S, SOMETHING'S GONNA COME UP NEXT TO IT.
BUT WHAT WE WANNA DO IS USE LIKE, THE RUGGEDNESS OF MATERIALS TO CREATE THE, THE, THE WHAT LOOKS LIKE A GRAPHIC PATTERN.
SO IT CHANGES IN, IN TEXTURE, UH, ACCENTUATING WHERE THE SLAB LINES ARE, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, WILL BE, WILL BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO USE TO DO, TO DO THIS, AS OPPOSED TO CREATING, YOU KNOW, A, A, A MURAL OR SOMETHING WITH PAINT, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SEE ONCE YOU TAKE OUT THE, THE STORAGE BUILDING NEXT TO IT.
SO WHAT'S REALLY VISIBLE, IT'S THE UPPER THREE STORIES OF THAT ELEVATION.
SO I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS.
UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY A 10 FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND THE STORAGE FACILITY SOUTH OF US.
UM, SO FOR NOW, MORE THAN HALF OF THEM OF THE SOUTH ELEVATION WILL BE VISIBLE, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IT MAY LIKELY BE FULLY COVERED.
THE IDEA IS TO CREATE THE SOUTH ELEVATION VISUALLY APPEALING AND COHESIVE.
UM, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SOME SORT OF PATTERN, UM, AS DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, IT'LL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THE USE OF MATERIALS IN AND OF ITSELF AND NOT SO MUCH AN ART MURAL.
UM, BECAUSE ART MURALS REQUIRE COMMISSION APPROVAL, UM, THEY GO THROUGH A LENGTHY APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO WE, WE, WE DON'T WANNA GO THAT ROUTE.
UM, WE ALSO DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR WALL OR, OR FACADE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING ART THAT WILL BE COVERED UP IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO WE WILL BE PROVIDING A VISUALLY, UH, APPEALING PRODUCT WITH MOVEMENT, UH, COLOR VARIATION, BUT WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH MATERIAL VARIATIONS.
UM, WE COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE RELEVANT REVIEW CRITERIA, INCLUDING DESIGN REVIEW, C LEVEL RISE IN RESILIENCY, AND ALSO, UM, THE OTHER APPLICABLE CRITERIA THAT NOT NOT RELEVANT TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION.
UM, TO CONCLUDE, I JUST WANNA FLAG AND AND EMPHASIZE THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE BRINGING MUCH DESIRED REVITALIZING REDEVELOPMENT TO THIS AREA OF NORTH BEACH.
UM, IT WILL BE BEAUTIFY AND ACTIVATE THE PUBLIC STREET FRONT.
AND FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
BUT THE USE IS PERMITTED AS OF RIGHT.
WE COMPLY WITH, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA AND WE WILL NOT BE CREATING ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OR THE AREA.
AND THE ARCHITECTS, I THINK, HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN FROM THE START.
THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM STAFF IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB IN BLENDING INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO THE POSITIVE THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS IS WE'RE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND MAKE THAT DESIGN EVEN BETTER.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CONCLUDE, OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, WE DO HAVE A FEW HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LIST.
UH, THE FIRST PERSON IS CARLOS PERZA.
CARLOS, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
I LIVE AT 4 0 1 69 STREET, WHICH IS, UM, UM, ABOUT 50 FEET FROM THIS, UM, PROPOSED HOTEL.
I'VE SPOKEN, UH, A FEW TIMES BEFORE, OVER THE LAST, UH, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OF THE MEETINGS ON BEHALF OF, OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR 4 0 1 BLUE, OUR CONDOMINIUM.
UM, WE CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, AND I JUST, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF, UH, THAT WE BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT HAVING A, A DEDICATED, UM, UM, IN AND OUT DROP OF, UH, WAY FOR, UM,
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HOTEL GUESTS, THAT, THAT THIS CREATES A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR HOTEL GUESTS AND, UM, I GUESS CARS DRIVING BY WHERE, UM, SOMEBODY CAN GET HURT.AND THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UM, OUR BOARD PRESIDENT BRUCE FISH SAID TO REPRESENTATIVES OF THE, UM, OF THE DEVELOPER, THE, THE LAW FIRM.
UM, SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HURT.
SO WE, WE WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
UM, I I, I, I FEEL THAT THERE ARE SO MANY RESULTS ISSUES HERE.
UH, TRASH, UM, UH, IS GONNA BE, THE PA IS GONNA BE USED FOR TRASH HAULING.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT PERMITTED AND STILL NOT CLEAR ABOUT HOW TRASH IS GONNA BE HANDLED IN TERMS OF PICKING IT UP AND DROPPING IT OFF.
UH, DELIVERIES AND LOADING, UH, THESE LATEST DRAFT SAYS THAT THAT ABU AVENUE IS GONNA BE USED FOR THIS, UM, EXISTING PARKING SPACES.
THERE ARE VERY FEW PARKING SPACES, DELIVERIES BETWEEN BEFORE 9:00 AM AND 4:30 PM IS PROPOSED.
AND IF YOU EVER GO BY, BY THIS AREA, RUSH HOUR IS, UH, VERY CHALLENGING.
UM, UH, THERE'S SOME MENTION ABOUT OUTDOOR MUSIC, WHICH WE WERE EXTREMELY AGAINST IT.
UH, SO WE PROPOSED THAT NO OUTDOOR MUSIC BE PERMITTED.
AND JUST ONE MORE THING I GUESS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS, IS FOR, UM, ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO YOUR CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
THAT I, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT A WHOLE YEAR WE'RE GONNA GO WITHOUT, UH, THE EAST LANE OR BABO AVENUE, UH, FOR TRAFFIC, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE BLOCKED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THE, THE NEXT NAME THAT WE HAVE IS, IS AL.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
ALEX BREW, I LIVE AT 78 21 BYRON AVENUE.
UH, I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN OF THIS POEO, AND, UH, I REALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BRING A NICE FACADE TO TO, TO ABBOTT.
UM, I'M AN ADVOCATE OF GREAT DESIGN AND I THINK THIS ONE IS VERY UNIQUE.
UH, AND THEN THE LAST HAND WE HAVE RAISED IS LEE.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH ON MUTE? HOW ABOUT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
LEE MARRERO, I LIVE AT 77 17 BYRON AVENUE.
UH, IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN, NO, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE AREA IS COMPLETELY OUTDATED AND I COMMEND THE CITY FOR CHANGING THE ZONING TO GIVE IT SOME MORE OF A, OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
LIKE WE SEE NOW ACROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE THIS NEW HOTEL COMING UP, I BELIEVE IT IS.
UM, SO I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S INEVITABLE WHEN YOU COME IN WITH NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING ITSELF AND, AND THE AREA NEEDS, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A CAFE, WHICH IS GORGEOUS, BY THE WAY.
UH, THERE'S NOT MANY NEW CAFES IN THE AREA, THEY'RE ALL OLD, RUN DOWN.
UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE DESIGN ITSELF IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'LL BRING THE CITY SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, SIMILAR TO WHAT'S COMING ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE WHOLE AREA BEING DEVELOPED IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THE CITY NEEDS.
IT'LL BRING IN NEW, NEW MONEY TO THE CITY, NEW PEOPLE TO THE CITY.
SO, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THIS STRUCTURE, UH, PUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY THE, THE LOTS NEXT TO IT DO THE SAME THING.
UM, SO I MEAN, IN ESSENCE, YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT, UH, THE CITY'S ALLOWING THESE NEW STRUCTURES TO, TO BE PUT ON, ON PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND, AND THE CITY DEFINITELY NEEDS THIS.
'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OLD STRUCTURES, THERE ARE CRACKING, FALLING APART THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY BRING IN THE WRONG TYPE OF PEOPLE.
UM, I HAVE PROVED TO THIS, THIS PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE HAND RAISED, UH, MARLINA MARLINA.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I SWEAR.
I LIVE AT 63 0 1 COLLINS AVENUE, UNIT 25 0 3
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LAGOS PALACE.AND I'VE BEEN WAITING AS A RESIDENT OF MIAMI BEACH FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO CHANGE INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
I'VE BEEN WALKING THESE STREETS WITH MY KIDS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND EXPECTING, UH, THESE LITTLE BUILDINGS TO TRANSFORM TO THIS BEAUTIFUL PROJECT THAT IS NOT BRINGING ONLY, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT ART IS AS, AS WELL, IT FEELS LIKE ART WHENEVER YOU SEE IT.
UH, THE CITIES HAS BEEN PUTTING SO MUCH MONEY AND EFFORT TRYING, AND I'VE BEEN PART OF IT AND SUPPORTING THIS, TRYING TO TRANSFORM THE PARKS, THE AREAS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BRINGING LITTLE CAFES AND ASKING US NOT TO MOVE SO MUCH NORTH OR SOUTH AND KEEPING AND STAYING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING FOR.
I REPRESENT A LOT OF, UM, CONVENIENCE IN THE AREA, AND I WORK, UH, IN THE AREA.
AND THIS WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING.
WE NEED THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE LITTLE PLACES LIKE THIS IS BOUTIQUE.
I HEAR SOME NONSENSE ABOUT MUSIC.
WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MIAMI BEACH.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THEATER.
AND I WALK EVEN YESTERDAY BY THERE AND I HEAR THEM REHEARSING AND IT'S OVERWHELMING AND SO BEAUTIFUL TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THESE TO OFFER TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE HOTEL, IT'S A BOUTIQUE PLACE, AND WE CAN SHARE THEIR COFFEE PLACES AND WE CAN SHARE THIS VIBE WITH THE TOURISM.
I THINK IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY ACHIEVE WITH THIS I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE TODAY.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY I NOT ONLY APPROVE IT, I ALMOST DEMAND IT AS A RESIDENT TO START DOING THIS WITH THE LITTLE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THAT THEY ARE CLOSED, THAT THEY BRING, YOU KNOW, RODS TO THIS, TO BEAUTIFUL PLACES WHERE MY KIDS CAN WALK AROUND WITHOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ME BEING CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE.
I'M
AND I SEE NO OTHER HANDS RAISED.
UH, CAN I START? YEP, LET'S LOOK.
SO, UH, I LIVE WALKING DISTANCE FROM HIS PROPERTY AND I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUILDING AND WHAT IT'LL BE USED FOR AND HOW MUCH CRAP IT'S GONNA CREATE, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR PLACE TO SPEAK ON IT, IN MY OPINION.
AND THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN REZONED TO, FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO HAVE A PROJECT LIKE THIS IN PLACE.
AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HIGHLY COGNIZANT ENOUGH TRAFFIC BY NOT CREATING PARKING SPACES AND BY NOT EMPHASIZING CAR USE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE YOU COULD DO AT THAT POINT FOR IT.
AND I WORK FROM HOME AND I WORK WALKING DISTANCE FROM THIS PROPERTY.
AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE PERFECT FOR ME TO COME OUT DURING MY DAY AND HAVE A THIRD SPACE OUTSIDE OF MY BUILDING, OUTSIDE OF MY PERSONAL LIVING SPACE TO COME WORK FROM A CAFE AND HAVE A EO THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND ADDS TO THE STREETS SCAPE AND ENCOURAGES WALKABILITY.
AND I FULLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL AND, AND LIKE AKIEL SAID, I THINK WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE DESIGN AND I KNOW IN EARLIER MEETINGS WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT OPERATIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, UM, AS WE'VE ESTABLISHED.
UM, SO SPEAKING ON THE DESIGN, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S MUCH IMPROVED.
I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKING OUR COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, I THINK THE MATERIALS WERE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THE METAL MATERIAL, UM, JUST TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD INTERPLAY WITH THESE MATERIALS.
LIKE, ADAM, I'M CURIOUS YOUR THOUGHTS AS THE ARCHITECT ON HOW THESE MORE NATURAL MATERIALS, WHICH I LOVE ARE GONNA BE JUXTAPOSED WITH A QUITE A BIT OF METAL, UM, ON THE TOP.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T LIKE IT.
I'M, I'M JUST, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO SEE HOW THAT ACTUALLY WORKED TOGETHER.
UM, BUT I GUESS AS TO QUESTIONS ON, ON THE METAL, HOW YOU'RE GETTING THESE LIKE MANGROVE INSPIRED PATTERNS, IS THAT THROUGH PAINT PAINTING ON THE METAL OR THE PERFORATION? SO, SO AS FAR AS THE MATERIAL GOES, IT'S A WHITE MAX MATERIAL, SO OKAY.
OH, IT WOULD BE A WHITE MATT METAL FINISH.
SO IT HAS NO REFLECTION FIRST OF ALL.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE A VERY NEUTRAL, UH, MATERIAL THAT BLENDS WITH THE STUCCO THAT BLENDS IN.
AND THEN THE, THE PATTERN IS ACHIEVED THROUGH PERFORATION, SO IT LIGHT COMES THROUGH AND WHEN IT'S LIT FROM INSIDE, IT WOULD SEE LIGHT COMING, FILTERED COMING OUT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF LIKE A GLOWING TEXTURED, UH, OKAY.
WOULD IT HELP IF WE SHOW A VISUAL SO HE CAN SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE METAL PORTION IS VERSUS YEAH, YEAH.
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THAT'S THE METAL.EAGLE EYE VIEW WAS PROBABLY THE BEST IMAGE.
SO IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT MIDDLE SLIDE WHERE IT SHOWS IT FROM UP CLOSE, WHAT'S, WHAT LOOKS LIKE BLACK IS REALLY PERFORATED, RIGHT? IT'S JUST MORE PERFORATION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THIS THING IS KIND OF SEMI-TRANSPARENT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF IT.
AND THERE'S A PIECE OF GLASS THAT COMES OUT FROM BEHIND IT, WHICH IS WHERE THE BALCONIES ARE.
UM, AND LET ME SEE IF WE CAN FIND ANOTHER, UM, YEAH.
RENDERING OF MAYBE THERE'S ONE THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S OKAY.
I MEAN THAT, THAT ONE THE SIDE THAT YOU COULD SEE WAS HELPFUL.
YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THOSE SWATHS WORK.
BUT THAT'S THROUGH PERFORATION.
THE THREE SIDES ARE ALL METAL.
AND IT'S NOT PAINTED METAL, IT'S, IT'S JUST NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE HOLES ARE WHAT MAKING IT DARKER.
AND I, I, I THANK YOU TOO FOR KIND OF PLAYING WITH THE RELIEF AREAS OF WHERE THAT METAL IS.
I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, IT STILL FEELS A LITTLE HEAVY IN SOME SPOTS.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA LIKE OVER DESIGNED THE PROJECT OR OR STEP, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT, ESPECIALLY ON THAT NORTH ELEVATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE PURPOSELY TRYING TO HIDE THOSE TWO LARGE AREAS ON THE SIDE, UM, FROM, OR WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE, KIND OF KEEP CONCEALED AREAS OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE TRYING TO CREATE AN OBJECT, LIKE A, LIKE A COMPLETE OBJECT.
LIKE WHAT THE, THE STATUS QUO THAT YOU SEE IN, YOU KNOW, MIAMI IS LIKE EXCELLENT, THE SLAB LINE AND THE GLASS, LIKE IT'S REPETITIVE, LIKE YOU SEE ALWAYS THE SAME THING.
SO HERE, THE PROGRAM, THE HOTEL AND THE, AND, AND THE, AND THE SERVICE AREAS GIVES YOU, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FREEDOM TO FIND SOME PLACES WHERE YOU BREAK THIS THING A LITTLE BIT.
SO AS YOU SEE IT COMES APART WHERE THE ROOMS ARE AND IT COMES TOGETHER WHERE THE OPAQUE WALLS ARE BEHIND IT.
SO THOSE ARE OPAQUE WALLS, SO IT GIVES IT MORE MOVEMENT.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE INTERESTING.
AND THERE IS GLASS ON THE BALCONIES.
IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO TO SEE IT.
UM, WELL, YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAN.
THE PLAN, YOU ACTUALLY SHOWS IT PRETTY WELL.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE YOU GO.
IF YOU SEE IF YOU ANY OF THESE, THANK YOU.
AND THEN MY, MY LAST COMMENT IS I THINK ON THAT SOUTH WALL, WHICH I, I REALIZE YOU'RE CONSTRAINED WITH.
I THINK, I THINK PICKING UP KIND OF THE PATTERN THAT YOU'RE GETTING ON THE OTHER SIDES, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT WORKS VERY WELL AND IT'S VERY SUBTLE AND WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LIGHT COMES IN A CERTAIN WAY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A VARIATION IN IT.
IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA HINT AT A, AT A PATTERN, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE OVERWHELMING AND, AND IT'S NOT BLANK EITHER, WHICH WAS OUR CONCERN TOO.
UM, ONE, SORRY, ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
DID YOU MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE PASS SALE AT ALL OR WAS IT JUST OTHER THAN THE NO, WE JUST ARTICULATED IT MORE LIKE, I THINK WE DID A BETTER, UH, A BETTER RUN THROUGH THE MATERIALS AND THE, AND THE, WE HAD ONE, WE HAVE ONE WALL THAT IS, UH, THE FBI, THE FBI, WHAT WE CALL THE FBL WALL, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT IS COVERED IN THIS WOOD TEXTURE YES.
SO WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THAT, ON THAT FRONT.
THAT CAN MAKE YOU VISUALIZE BEING INSIDE WHEN IT'S RIGHT.
AND IT'S MEANT TO BE LIKE AN OPEN NATURAL, UH, I THINK THE TROPICAL LANDSCAPING DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF CONTRASTING THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE.
AND EMPHASIZING, YOU KNOW, THE UNIQUE LOCATION OF THE IT LOOK FEELS VERY MIAMI BEACH.
THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH EMPHASIS ON THIS TRASH ROUTE.
IT'S TO GO THROUGH THERE FOR 30 SECONDS.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT A TRASH ROUTE.
IT'S LIKE WE GO THROUGH THERE FOR ONE 30 SECONDS AND THEN REST IT WILL BE, REST WILL BE A EO.
I DON'T LIKE YOU PEOPLE KEEP MENTIONING THIS TRASH ROUTE, BUT IT'S NOT WHATEVER.
WHAT'S THE STORY WITH THAT? IS, IS IT A FUTURE SITE? IS IT, DOES IT HAVE THE POT, THE POTENTIAL OF DOING THE SAME THING? UH, IS THERE A REASON WHY IT WAS IN THE PUBLIC STORAGE NEXT DOOR? NO, THE OTHER SIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND I THINK THEY TRIED TO BUY IT.
WE, WE TRIED TO PURSUE IT, BUT THERE WAS NO, YEAH, THEY DON'T WANNA SELL IT.
ISN'T THAT PROPERTY TOO GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A POEO IF THEY REDEVELOP OR KIND OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POEO? BOTH SIDES WOULD NEED TO HAVE A PEO SO EVEN IF WE HAD BOTH PROPERTIES, LET'S SAY IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A POEO IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE BEAUTIFUL.
'CAUSE YOU COULD FLIP IT OVER AND HAVE A BIG WIPE.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT'S GONNA BE AN ODD SCENARIO TO HAVE THAT BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE.
AND DOES IT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE DEVELOPED AS THIS PROJECT DOES AS WELL? THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD? IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LIKE A MIRROR IMAGE OF, OF, OF THE, OF THIS.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU WOULD END UP WITH.
IT WOULD END UP EVENTUALLY BASICALLY A REVERSAL OF THIS, OF THIS STYLE OF A BUILDING.
SO THEN THESE UNITS ARE BASICALLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE WALL OF ANOTHER UNIT ON THE OTHER, ON THE, THEY
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HAVE A 10, THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT OF ANOTHER 10 FEET, SO THEY'LL BE QUANTUM 20 FEET.AND THEN THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE JUST NORTH OF THAT, JUST NORTH OF THAT, THAT IS HAPPENING.
WHICH, WHICH IS HAPPENING NOW.
SO IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ODD TO HAVE THIS, NOT YOUR FAULT, THE BUILDING IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S KIND OF ODD TO HAVE YOUR, THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND THEN THIS IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH EVENTUALLY I IMAGINE IT'S GONNA GET DEVELOPED, WOULD'VE BEEN SMART TO DEVELOP TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME VERSUS NOT.
TRUST ME, IT WOULD'VE MADE OUR LIFE EASIER HAD WE HAD A BIGGER PROPERTY FOR SURE.
IT'S MOST TIME, SOMETIMES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK OF
BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT BUILDING WAS, BECAUSE THAT OBVIOUSLY AFFECTS THE DESIGN.
AND THAT BUILDING WILL BE SANDWICHED, I THINK ON THE OTHER SIDE IS A HUGE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, UH, SORT OF THE UP
AND, AND JUST SO THE BOARD IS AWARE FOR THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE PUBLIC STORAGE BUILDING, COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING THEM TO MAINTAIN THAT PUBLIC STORAGE USE AND REDEVELOP THE SITE.
SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP PURSUANT TO THE TOWN CENTER REGULATIONS, A TOWER WITH, UM, WITH RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THAT PUBLIC USE, UM, UH, THE PUBLIC STORAGE USE WITHIN THE PEDESTAL OF THE TOWER.
UM, SO WE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO EXPECT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE TO COME FORWARD.
WE SAW SOME INITIAL, UM, RENDERINGS WHEN THEY WERE, WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSING THAT ORDINANCE TO DATE, THEY HAVEN'T COME AND ACTUALLY MET WITH US WITH A FORMAL APPLICATION, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME, UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
I I'M SURE A HUNDRED PERCENT WILL, BUT ON ON THEIR SOUTH SIDE, THEY'RE SOUTH SIDE COVERED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FINE.
I'M JUST SAYING, I WAS THINKING OF MORE ABOUT OTHER SIDE SAYING YOU, YOU, THEY GRANDFATHERED IN THE PUBLIC STORAGE USE.
THAT CAN BE OVERLAID WITH ALL THE OTHER USES.
BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT IS A, THAT IS NOT A USE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT.
IT'S A, IT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE SIZE OF THE PUBLIC STORAGE REMAINS THE SAME AS WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY.
BUT IN, BUT INSTEAD OF BEING AT THE GROUND FLOOR, IT WOULD BE EMBEDDED INTO, INCORPORATED INTO THE PEDESTAL OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD, UM, IMPORTANT USE.
JESSICA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UM, THANK YOU GUYS.
DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT LOOKING BUILDING AND MUCH MORE DYNAMIC AND, AND I CAN SEE THE THOUGHT YOU GUYS PUT INTO IT.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
SO SOUTH SIDE, I WASN'T CLEAR ON ON WHAT MATERIALS YOU SAID, AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT.
STUCCO, TEXTURED STUCCO, SMOOTH STUCCO, RIGHT? SO IT'S A TEXTURED STUCCO, A SMOOTH STUCCO, AND THEN THERE'S THE, WHAT WE'RE THINKING IN THOSE OUTCROPS THAT LOOK LIKE CIRCLES MAYBE HAVE A, AN EVEN THIRD TEXTURE THAT OUTLINES THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE SHAPES THAT WAY YOU HAVE THREE TEXTURES, ONE OF THEM MARKING THE LINES OF THE SLABS AND THE KIND OF THE, THE FLOOR ASSEMBLY.
AND THE OTHER ONE WILL WITH AN OVERLAY OF SHAPES THAT IS A LITTLE BIT COSER.
AND THEN THE THINNER ONE WOULD BE THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL.
SO IT'S REALLY THREE LAYERS OF, OF TEXTURE TO BE APPLIED, BUT TONE ON TONE ALL THE SAME.
TONE ON, YEAH, IT CAN BE TONE ON TONE OR VERY LIGHT VARIATIONS OF LIKE A, LIKE A, LIKE A WHITE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ENOUGH WHITE LIKE, UH, WARM GRAY TYPE OF THING.
UM, SO, OKAY, NOW I'M GETTING INTO THE, THE NEW PURPOSE.
OBVIOUSLY WE, WE ALSO ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO STAFF TO, I'M GONNA MAKE A NOTE THAT, THAT YOU GUYS, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL IT A PATTERN, NOT A, NOT ART, BUT IT MM-HMM
IT'S, I THINK YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A DRAWING THAT SHOWS EXACTLY TEXT, A, TEXTURE B, TEXTURE C, AND HOW IT IS SO THAT SOMEONE CAN FOLLOW IT.
UM, SO THE PERFORATION NOW IS, IS MORE REAL.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE CHANGED THE FOREPLAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORY OF THE, THE, THE LAYOUT, THE SHAPE AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE MANGROVE.
AND I SEE HOW YOU'VE PULLED IN THE PERF TO CREATE PRIVACY FOR BALCONIES AND, AND ALL OF THAT LOOKS NICE.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT MOVEMENT VERSUS THIS WAS JUST A, A BOX FLAT SKIN BEFORE.
UM, AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PERFORATIONS.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE 12 INCH DIAMETER PERFS AND THERE COULD BE TWO INCH.
AND JUST CURIOUS ON THAT, AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A SAMPLE HERE, BUT FOR IN THE FUTURE, PHYSICAL SAMPLES OF MATERIALS ARE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR FASTER APPROVAL.
WE HAD A, OKAY, SO LET'S SEE THIS ONE, THIS ONE SHOWS YOU THE FULL FACADE.
SO HERE YOU CAN TRACE THE, THE MANGROVE SHAPE PRETTY EASILY, I THINK.
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THERE IS MORE PERFORATION WHERE THE BRANCHES ARE COMING IN AND LESS PERFORATION WHERE THE BACKGROUND COMES IN.SO, SO THIS IS THE OVERALL KIND OF PATTERN THAT WE ABSTRACTED FROM, FROM A PHOTOGRAPH.
NOW I'M GONNA JUMP TO A SLIDE THAT WE HAVE THAT SHOWS THE CLOSEUP OF IT.
SO YOU SEE HOW THIS LAYERS AS A SINGLE PIECE OF THE SIDE.
THE SIZE OF A, OF A SINGLE PIECE OF, OF METAL WOULD BE SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE, IN THE VICINITY OF MAYBE LIKE THREE BY SIX FEET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND IN THIS ONE YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF HOW THE, THE PERFORATED, UH, THE, THE DIAMETERS WORK.
BUT THE SMALLER DIAMETERS WOULD PROBABLY BE LESS THAN 12 INCHES, WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE LIKE IN THE RANGE OF EIGHT.
AND THIS HAS TO BE ENGINEERED.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WILL SEND TO THE FABRICATOR.
WE WORK WITH A COMPANY CALLED C THAT DOES THESE FABRICATIONS.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WIND LOADS AND THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS GOING INTO THE THICKNESS OF THE MATERIAL SO THAT IT DOESN'T DEFORM MM-HMM
SO THEY DO A SERIES OF, OF, OF, OF MOCKUPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIZE OF THE PERFORATIONS ARE NOT COMPROMISING THE INTEGRITY OF THE MATERIAL.
SO, BUT WE DON'T SEE THIS BEING MORE THAN, MORE THAN AN INCH PERFORATION AT THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT SIZES, EIGHT, FOUR AND TWO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST FACTOR AS WELL THAT EVENTUALLY IS GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF BE TUNED.
BUT THE WAY THAT WE WORK IT IS WE SEND A CONCEPTUAL THING IN, WE GET A, WE GET SOME SHOP DRAWINGS, WE GET A MOCK UP, WE GET A SAMPLE, AND WE WORK BACK, BACK AND FORTH TO MEET THE ENGINEERING NEEDS OF THE MATERIAL.
AND THEN ALSO THE, IS WHAT WE SUBMIT TO THE FINAL SET OF PERMIT DOCUMENTS OR, OR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
MY, I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT IN PLAN, OH, THE, THE UNDULATION OF OKAY.
HOW, TELL ME HOW THAT IS RELATIONSHIP TO THE MANGROVE IMAGE.
JUST 'CAUSE NOW WE HAVE A DISTINCT SHAPE HERE.
RIGHT? SO AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS WAS WHERE I WAS TRYING TO GET TO.
OKAY, SO HERE'S THE, HERE'S A PLAN, RIGHT? YOU SEE THE OVERALL, AN OVERALL FLORAL PLAN, THE, THE SHAPE IN PLAN OF HOW THESE THINGS BEND, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE MANGROVE SHAPE, IT'S JUST WE WANTED ENOUGH MODULATION IN THE CURVATURE OF THESE BALCONIES TO GIVE THE MANGROVE SHAPE, UH, INSTEAD SO THAT YOU NEVER LOOK AT IT FLAT LIKE A PARKING LOT BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU CONFUSE IT.
LIKE I THINK ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER MESH FOR ANOTHER PARKING LOT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO GIVING THE SHAPE OF THE BALCONIES SOME MODULATION LIKE YOU SEE ON VARIATION, MAKE SURE THAT THE MATERIAL ACTUALLY FOLDS LIKE MORE LIKE FABRIC THAN IT DOES METAL.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO BEND AROUND THE RADIO, BUT THE BALCONIES ARE KIND OF FREE SHAPES.
YOU HAVE ONE SHAPE THAT IS THE OUTER BALCONY AND THEN THERE'S, I WONDER IF I CAN ZOOM IN, I CAN THEN, SO THE BACK LINE WOULD BE THE GLASS, AND THEN THERE'S AN IN-BETWEEN SHAPE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS WHEN THE MESH BENDS TO MEET THE GLASS, UH, IONS OR THE GLASS KIND OF LINE AND IT GOES AWAY FROM THE BALCONY LINE.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CUT THAT IS ABOVE THE RAILING LINE.
OR I CAN GO BACK TO THE FACADE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN DETAIL, BUT LET ME SEE, I LOOK FORWARD TODAY THAT WILL FIGURE OUT BETTER WAY OF THIS.
I HAVE TO LIKE AT, LET ME SEE IF I CAN, NOT A MAC.
NO, I USE ZOOM OUT TO A MAC GUY DOESN'T, OH, THERE YOU GO.
SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE ELEVATION WHERE THIS IS MORE.
OKAY, SO HERE IT, IT'S, SO IF YOU SEE THERE'S, THERE'S A TYPE OF RIBBON THAT GOES ON THE PERIMETER, THEN THERE'S ONE THAT FOLDS, UH, INTO THE, LIKE RIGHT HERE.
WELL, YOU CAN SEE IT HERE TOO.
SO YOU HAVE ONE LAYER THAT GOES ON THE OUTSIDE, A LAYER THAT FOLDS AND GOES ON THE INSIDE, AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A, YOU'RE CLICKING THAT.
SO WE F WE FOUND A WAY TO CREATE A WRAPPER THAT ADDRESSES ALL ISSUES FROM THE PLAN THAT WE CREATED TO MEETING THE BACK WALL, MEETING THE GLASS LINES, AND CREATING ENOUGH MOVEMENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, UH, AGAIN, LIKE A PARKING LOT.
SO THAT IT DOES CREATE, YOU KNOW,
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ALSO USE FOR THE BUILDING SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE INSIDE YOU CAN LIGHTEN THE, THE, THE MASS OF IT.AND THEN WHAT WE DID ALSO IS INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE TOP LIKE WE'D HAD IN THE PAST, WE CAPPED IT AT THE PRIOR STORY SO THAT YOU HAVE THE UPPER ROOF LINE TO BE A LIGHTER DIFFERENT WOOD MATERIAL.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS A NICE MOVE TO BRING THAT DOWN.
YEAH, SO THAT'S A BIG, THAT, THAT WAS A BIG, BIG CHANGE FOR US SO THAT THIS THING DOESN'T END IN LIKE, ALMOST LIKE BEING CHOPPED OFF.
LIKE IT FEELS LIKE IT GOES ON ENDLESSLY AND WOULD LOOK A LOT MORE INDUSTRIAL.
THIS IS A LOT MORE CONTAINED AND A LOT MORE LIKE, UH, FITTING A SHAPE.
SO IT'S LIKE DRESSING A SHAPE RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT IS UBIQUITOUS THAT SEEMS REPETITIVE AND NEVER ENDS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ARCHITECT SPEAK FOR ALL, ALL THE NEW MINUTIA OF THE THINGS, BUT WE, WE KIND OF REALLY KIND OF LIKE DIALED IT IN AND WORKED ON IT.
IS THERE NOW A CONNECTION TO THE BRAND OF THE HOTEL WITHIN THIS SORT OF MANGROVE NOW THAT YOU'VE GIVEN IT A AN IDENTITY? IS THERE GOING TO BE A WE THINK IT BECOMES THE IDENTITY IN A WAY.
IT BECOMES SO RECOGNIZABLE THAT IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, I THINK YOU'VE DEFINITELY GIVEN AN IDENTITY.
IT, IT MAY WANNA INFLUENCE YOUR BRANDING OF SOMETHING SO YOU DON'T HAVE SORT OF THE, I DON'T KNOW, SOME THERE YOU GO.
IT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE MANGROVE.
WE, WE'LL CALL IT THE MANGROVE MANGROVE,
YOU HAVE A COUPLE, OR AT LEAST THE MANGROVE CAFE.
THAT SORT OF LEADS INTO A QUESTION I HAVE, WHICH IS, YEAH.
UM, LESS, IT'S ON A DESIGN FRONT, BUT MORE ON A PUBLIC SAFETY FRONT IS THE NAME OF THE HOTEL AND WHERE THAT SIGNAGE WOULD GO SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T, CARS AREN'T SWERVING TO, UH, MISSING THE HOTEL OR NOT KNOWING WHERE TO ENTER.
THE, THE CITY HAS SIGNAGE REGULATIONS THAT WE'LL NEED TO COMPLY WITH, AND THAT'S DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING, EXACT LOCATION, HEIGHT.
UM, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T BLOCK ANY VISIBILITY TRIANGLES.
FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE SIGN? WE THINK IT WOULD BE, OKAY.
SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE UNDER, UNDER THE 28 FOOT LINE.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE, IN THE BOTTOM IT WOULD BE A SMALL SIGN IN THE BOTTOM PART OF THE PASEO AND OR THERE PROBABLY WOULD BE ONE AT THE VERY TOP AS WELL THAT WOULD BE VERY KIND OF DISCREET.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S EITHER IN THIS GAP RIGHT HERE, A SMALL ONE.
A PEDESTRIAN LEVEL, AND THEN MAYBE ONE, ONE UP HERE AT EITHER CORNER THAT COULD BE IN THE TOP.
AND UH, MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE DIVIDER BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS, UM, UM, THE HOTEL UNITS FACING SOUTH? WHAT ARE YOU IN THE, ON THE BALCONY? WHAT ARE YOU DIVIDING THEM BY? UH, THAT TIES INTO THE QUESTION THAT I THINK THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, WHICH WAS HERE.
SO YOU SEE THAT THE BALCONIES ARE NATURALLY SEPARATED BY THE CURVATURE, SO, GOT IT.
OH YEAH, THE, THE OTHER PLANT DOESN'T HAVE THAT DIVIDER.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY START FOLDING IT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE THINGS ARE NATURAL DIVIDERS, THEY, THEY DON'T CONNECT AT ALL.
SO THEY'RE PRIVATE BALCONIES AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO, BEFORE WE HAD TO DIVIDE THEM BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMON WRAP, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRIVATE.
YOU CAN STILL OBVIOUSLY SEE NEXT DOOR.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION WITH A FEW ITEMS. THE, THE CHAIR CAN NOT MAKE A MOTION, SO IF YOU CAN HANDLE, HANDLE IT HAND THE GAVEL OVER
CAN I ADD TO THE CAVEATS AND THE MOTION? I'M GONNA MOTION TO APPROVE AND THERE'LL BE SOME CAVEATS I GUESS
UM, NIGHT LIGHTING IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS WRITTEN AS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE REVIEWED, BUT IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS, IT'S, I THINK ALL PROJECTS IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE THIS BUILDING HAS A DAYTIME VIEW AND HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NIGHTTIME VIEW.
SO THAT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS STRONG STAFF CONSIDERATION.
UM, I THINK THAT THE STAFF NEEDS TO OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, PATTERNS, TEXTURES, AND PROVING ALL THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S INTERESTING AND DYNAMIC.
IT FITS WITH, UM, THE REST OF EVERYTHING.
AND UM, THE THIRD PART IS, IS JUST LOOKING AT THE CORNER AT THE PASS, THE MAIN CORNER AND JUST THE SHAPE OF THAT AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT, THAT YOU'RE HAPPY WITH HOW THAT IMPACT IS THROUGH, BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS, IS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT DRIVING AND WHERE WE'VE GOT THE MOST SETBACKS GONNA HAPPEN AND HOW THAT SHAPE WRAPS AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY ON THAT, THAT CORNER THERE.
UM, AND THE COLOR OF THE METAL CLADDING, SO THAT ONE MORE THING.
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IN THE EO EMPHASIS ON LANDSCAPING, SO NEVER BE CONFUSED FOR A TRASH ROUTE.SO DO YOU MIND IF I JUST GO THROUGH
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL 'EM CAVEATS, WE'LL JUST CALL 'EM.
UM, SO FOR WORK, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S THAT, UH, THAT THAT FACADE IS INTERESTING AND DYNAMIC WORK WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT ON LIGHTING TO ENSURE, UH, THAT IT COMPLIMENTS THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE FACADE IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
INTERIOR AND, AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING.
AND THEN, UH, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, ON THE CORNER ELEMENT OF THE PEO, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT'S DYNAMIC, I, UH, WOULD BE THE, AND VERY INACTIVATED MM-HMM
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UM, WAS, UH, THE LIGHTING ON THE PA ENSURE THAT THERE'S, UM, LANDSCAPING, OH, SORRY, LANDSCAPING IN THE PA WORK.
SO THEN THE MOTION WAS BY MR. LESTER AND IT WAS SECONDED BY MS. LEWIN.
UM, THAT'S MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE FOUR MODIFICATIONS MENTIONED.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK.
GOOD THING YOU CAME OUTTA MATERNITY AND YOU CLOSED THE DEAL.
ALWAYS MAKING A BETTER BUILDING.
ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DRB 25 11 41 800
[5. DRB25-1141, 800 SOUTH POINTE DRIVE.]
SOUTH POINT DRIVE.UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE, AN EXTERIOR PLAZA OF AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING.
SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RENOVATE THE FACADE BY RECRE CLADDING WITH NEW MATERIALS, CHANGE SIGNAGE, PROVIDE NEW LANDSCAPE AND RENOVATE THE WATER FEATURE.
UH, ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2025, THE DRB CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE FEBRUARY 12TH, 2026 MEETING.
THE FEBRUARY 12TH, 2026 MEETING WAS CANCELED AND THE ITEM WAS MOVED TO THIS MEETING.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE SONY DISTRICT CP S3 AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE AND EXTERIOR PLAZA OF AN EXISTING 37 STORY RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY APO CONDOMINIUM IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH POINT DRIVE AND WASHINGTON AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ENHANCE THE EXISTING PLAZA LEVEL ELEVATION WITH NEW METAL LOUVER CLADDING IN A WOOD-LIKE FINISH THAT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE EXISTING SMOOTH WHITE STUCCO FINISHED WALLS.
AND THE SAME MATERIAL IS PROPOSED TO FOR THE UNDERSIDE OF THE EXISTING PORTICO SHARED CANOPY.
THE ENTRY STEPS ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED WITH INCORPORATION OF A LARGE LANDSCAPE PLANTER.
THE STAIRS ARE REFINISHED WITH MARBLE THREADS AND RISERS AND FEATURE NEW POWDER COATED METAL RAILINGS ALONG WITH THE RENOVATION OF THE ENTRANCE ELEVATIONS AND STEPS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SIGNIFICANT PLASMA MODIFICATIONS THAT INCLUDE LANDSCAPE AND HARDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EAST YARD, WHICH WHICH ALSO FACES WASHINGTON AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A COMPILATION OF LANDSCAPE PLANTERS, DARK GRANITE PAVED WALKWAYS, ALONGSIDE RECYCLE LIKE GREAT GRANITE PAVERS.
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THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FENCE IN THE EXISTING SOUTHWEST LAWN, PROPOSING A NEW FENCE AND DOUBLE GATES ALONG SOUTH POINT DRIVE FOR FIRE AXIS AND MODIFICATIONS WITHIN THE FRONT INCLUDE HIGHER PLANTER WALLS WITH TALLER LANDSCAPE AND CANOPY TREES AND NEW DARK GRAY GRANITE PAVERS FOR THE DRIVEWAY, THE BASE OF THE ELEVATIONS ALONG THE PLANTER AND WATER.FUTURE WALLS ARE PROPOSED IN TRAVELING STONE FINISH.
THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES MODIFICATIONS AND ADDITION TO THE EXISTING SITE SIGNAGE.
IN GENERAL, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS AND ENHANCEMENT TO THE GROUND PLAZA LEVEL THAT IMPROVE THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIAN REAL OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.
THE STAFF, HOWEVER, DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE WEST LAWN AND THE IMPACT TO THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE STREET AND PARK.
WHEN THE APOGEE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, GREAT CARE WENT INTO HOW THE FIRST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING AND SITE INTERACTED WITH THE LARGER AREA CONTEXT TO THE EAST, NORTH, AND WEST.
WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS MAINTAINED THIS SUCCESSFUL CONNECTION ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED ENCLOSURE OF THE WEST LAWN IS CONTRARY TO THE CURRENT SUCCESSFUL SITE PLAN AS PROPOSED.
THE PLACEMENT AND POTENTIAL DESIGN OF THIS FENCING AND GATE WILL REMOVE AN IMPORTANT OPEN SPACE COMPONENT AS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE.
AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED FENCE AND GATE AS WELL AS INCREASED LANDSCAPE ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WEST, HALF OF THE SITE BE ELIMINATED AND THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF OPEN LAWN AND PALM TREES BE RETAINED.
SHOULD THE DRB DECIDE TO PERMIT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AS WELL AS A FENCE AND GATE STAFF STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THAT THIS PORTION OF THE APPLICATION BE CONTINUED TO FUTURE DATE SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE ADEQUATE AND ESSENTIAL DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE WEST LOAN.
ADDITIONALLY, SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE TO ALLOW OFFENSE AND GATE IS FURTHER RECOMMENDED THAT THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE AND GATE FOLLOWED THE CONTOURS OF THE SITE AND BUILDING SUCH FENCE AND GATES SHOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY OPEN AND NOT, AND NOT EXCEED FOUR FEET IN HEIGHT AND ANY ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SHOULD CONCE OF LOW, OF LOW GROUND COVER AND SHOPS AS TO RETAIN AND PRESERVE THE OPEN SPACE VIEWS CURRENTLY IN PLACE WITHIN THE WEST ALONE WITH THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS ENUMERATED IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THE APPLICATION? OKAY, SO GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, TRU SOCA BOULEVARD HERE REPRESENTING APOGEE ASSOCIATION.
WITH ME TODAY IS NICHOLAS DEGIOVANNI.
KATHLEEN GUTTMAN, SHE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.
ALEX HURST IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME SECURITY STAFF HERE.
AND, UH, JOSEPH MILTON, AN INVOLVED RESIDENT AT THE ASSOCIATION.
OUR ARCHITECTS ARE FROM THRESHOLD LANDSCAPE WORKSHOP WITH MICHAEL CALLAHAN AND CHRISTINE SAWYER.
AND WE HAVE MY COLLEAGUE, UH, BEN SHERRY.
SO THE APOGEE PROPERTY IS QUITE LARGE, SITTING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH POINT DRIVE WITH WASHINGTON AVENUE IS EASTERN BOUNDARY, SOUTH POINT PARK AND THE SOUTH AND THE BAY WALK AND MURANO TO THE WEST.
IT IS AN INTERESTING SPLIT ZONING CLASSIFICATION WITH C PS THREE AND THE MARINE RECREATIONAL TO THE SOUTH.
UM, I'LL REVERSE IT WAS LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THEN IT WAS ZONING.
UM, HERE IS A VIEW LOOKING FROM WASHINGTON AVENUE AND SOUTH POINT DRIVE LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS WHERE MANY TIMES A DAY PEDESTRIANS WALKING UP AND DOWN SOUTH POINT DRIVE, CUT THROUGH THE PLAZA.
WE CONSIDER TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, DOESN'T REPRESENT ANY TYPE OF SECURITY RISK.
AND THIS WILL BE THE FOCUS OF THE APPLICATION TODAY IS REVAMPING THAT PLAZA.
LOOKS A LITTLE BIT WIND SWEPT.
NOW WE'RE GONNA VASTLY IMPROVE IT.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING WEST FROM WASHINGTON AND SOUTH POINT DRIVE WITH A VIEW OF THE PORTICO SHARE IN THE BACKGROUND AND THE PLAZA IN THE FOREGROUND.
THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING SOUTH OF SOUTH POINT DRIVE NOTICE, A VERY TINY APOGEE SIGN.
IT'S A VIEW OF THE PORTES SHARE AND THE DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS AN UP CLOSE VIEW OF THE PORTES SHARE LOOKING FOR SOUTH POINT DRIVE TO THE SOUTHEAST.
THIS IS A VIEW A LITTLE BIT FARTHER BACK ALSO OF THE PORT SHARE.
UM, AND THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS VERY LARGE IN FRONT OF,
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UH, APOGEE AT THAT POINT.THIS IS THE WEST SIDE YARD THAT A ALEJANDRO MENTIONED OUR PROPOSALS TO PUT A FENCE AND LANDSCAPING RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK AREA.
I THINK WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED, THERE WAS NO, NO THOUGHT GIVEN TO SECURITY.
SINCE ITS ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION SECURITY HAS BECOME A HUGE ISSUE FOR THE ASSOCIATION.
HOMELESS PEOPLE ROUTINELY TRY TO CAMP OUT THERE AT NIGHT.
TEENAGERS TEND TO GO THERE AND CAUSE TROUBLE AND MISCHIEF ALSO.
THE RESIDENTS DON'T FEEL SAFE ACTUALLY EVEN GOING TO THAT SIDE YARD RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO YES, HAVE A FENCE THERE AND SOME LANDSCAPING.
UM, STAFF HAS DESCRIBED THIS AS A OPEN SPACE VIEW CORRIDOR.
THERE IS NO VIEW OF THE PARK NOR A GOVERNMENT CUT FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT A SOUTH POINT DRIVE.
IF WE DO OUR IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE WITH YOUR PERMISSION, WE WE WILL DO.
UM, THE OPEN SPACE WILL STILL REMAIN.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S CORRECT TO DESCRIBE THIS AS A VIEW CORRIDOR.
AND IN ADDITION, THERE'S, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO PROMOTE A VIEW CORRIDOR THROUGH SOMEONE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND EVEN IF THERE WAS A VIEW CORRIDOR, WHICH I DISPUTE YOU ALL HAVE TO BALANCE THE SECURITY OF THE RESIDENCE VERSUS THE IDEA THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF VIEW CORRIDOR HERE.
AND I WOULD HOPE IN THAT CONSIDERATION, SECURITY OF THE RESIDENCE WOULD COME FIRST.
NOW I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO OUR VERY CAPABLE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
HE'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH HIS DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, OUR, OUR STRATEGY REALLY IS TO RENOVATE THE EAST SIDE STREET SCAPE.
UM, ENHANCE PROPERTY OF WAY FI WAYFINDING SIGNAGE.
'CAUSE UH, THE, THE, LIKE YOU SHOULD AT THE, IN THE, UH, PHO PHOTOGRAPH, THERE'S A SMALL IDENTIFICATION SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT REALLY ADDRESSING WEST POINT DRIVE AND UH, UH, WASHINGTON AVENUE ITSELF.
ALSO TOO, WE LOOKED AT THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING TOO, AND KIND OF A, A LITTLE BIT OF VAST I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE, UH, IN, IN A SECOND.
UM, AND ALSO TO APPROVE KIND OF PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY THROUGH THE SITE AND SITE SAFETY TOO.
UM, AND ALSO TO DIVERSIFYING PLANTING, UH, AND ALSO TO WORKING WITH THE RE WEST SIDE AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FENCING.
UM, THE, THE PLAZA CURRENTLY IS ABOUT 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF PAVING.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO RE, UM, RECYCLE THIS PAVING.
THEY HAVE AMPLE SPACE TO STORE IT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND BRING IT BACK INTO THE SITE IN A DIFFERENT GEOMETRY.
UM, WHAT WE DID TOO IS LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF SOUTH POINT PARK AND KIND OF THE DIVERSIFIED, UH, CANOPY STRUCTURE AND THE SHADING AND KIND OF WHAT OUR, UM, OUR, OUR KIND OF STRATEGY WAS TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF THE ESSENCE OF SOUTH POINT PARK UP INTO THE EAST SIDE STREET SCAPE AND CREATE KIND OF A ENTRY INTO THE PARK AS KIND OF, UH, UNIFORM WITH THE PARK.
UH, WE CAME UP WITH A STRATEGY THAT CREATED FIVE DIFFERENT PLANTING AREAS AND, UH, THREE DIFFERENT, UH, PASSAGEWAYS.
AND THESE WERE REALLY IDENTIFIED THROUGH A LENGTHY SITE INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS PROCESS BY MONITORING HOW PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THE SPACE.
THE NORTH AND SOUTH IS KIND OF THE CUT THROUGH PEOPLE WE'RE DOING THE EAST AND WEST COMES FROM REALLY THE RESIDENTS AND THERE'S KIND OF A, A ROUNDABOUT AREA THAT THE RESIDENTS GET CUT THROUGH TO AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A CANOPY THAT WOULD BE HERE.
SO WITHIN THESE FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS, WE INTRODUCED FIVE, UM, SHALLOW DETENTION AREAS TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE IN THE AREA.
'CAUSE THAT'S A MAIN PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE PAVING UPHEAVAL IS THE DRAINING.
HOW IT'S, UH, DEFLECTED TOO ALSO IS THE BASE LAYER FOR IT.
I THINK THESE ARE GRANITE PAVERS AND THEY WERE SET ON A, UH, A, A A, UH, SURFACE THAT WAS MADE FOR CONCRETE PAVERS, THE GRANITE'S, MUCH MORE DENSER, HEAVIER AND OVER TIME IT'S DONE THAT, UH, UH, KIND OF SINKING, UH, ALSO TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO IN THESE AREAS IS TO PUT THEM ON A CON, UH, ABOUT A FOUR INCH CONCRETE BASE AND MORTAR THEM TO THE, TO, UH, THE PAVERS TO THAT BASE.
SO OVER TIME WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DURABILITY, UH, AND TO THE CANOPY THAT SUPPORTS OVER THIS.
SO, UH, THE COMMUNITY CAN KIND OF WALK THROUGH A NICE GREEN SPACE THAT LEADS INTO THE PARK TO ITSELF.
UH, KIND OF HERE ON THE WEST, UH, KIND OF THE STARKNESS, THE MONOCULTURE IS BRINGING A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSITY TO THE TREE CANOPY SHADING AND KIND OF REDUCING URBAN HEAT, URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS TOO AS WELL.
UH, KIND OF THE PARK AS IT IS TOO.
YOU CAN START TO SEE THAT THE TREES ALONG THE, UH, THE LEFT THERE ARE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE KIND OF REALLY STUNTED IN GROWTH AND WHERE WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS, IT'S ALSO TOO, IT'S THE WIND TUNNEL AND THE MICROCOM CLIMATIC CONDITIONS OF THIS CHALLENGE.
UH, AND ALSO TOO, I THINK THE SOIL UNDERNEATH IT IS, UH, A VERY HEAVY LIMESTONE BASE.
SO WHERE WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK IN IS REALLY GOOD PLANTING SOIL TO HOPEFULLY ALL THESE THRIVE OVER TIME.
UH, SO KIND OF A LOOK TO THE WEST AND KIND OF EVEN THE CANOPY TUBE BE HIGH ENOUGH THAT
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THERE'S FOR SECURITY LIKE VISUAL, UM, UH, SITE LINES THROUGH THE WHOLE SITE AND TO LEADING UP TO THE, UH, THE FOUNTAIN TOO AND ADDING KIND OF A LOW HEDGE THAT TO CUT IN BETWEEN THE FOUNTAIN ITSELF.I THINK WHAT MICHAEL WAS TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS AND KIND OF VANDALS, BUT THERE'S ALSO TOO, WE NOTICED THROUGH OUR SITE VISITS TOO, IT'S LIKE TOURISTS THAT COME UP HERE AND POSE IN FRONT OF THIS, UM, FOUNTAIN TWO.
IT AS WELL AS THERE'S ALSO BEEN I THINK SOME BREACHES OF SECURITY OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY WALKING INTO THE FOUNTAIN.
SO PROVIDING THIS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER, VEGETATED BUFFER RATHER THAN KIND OF A HARDSCAPE BUFFER ITSELF.
UH, AND THEN TOO, THIS HAS BEEN THE MAIN, UH, NORTH SOUTH AXIS COMING INTO THE PARK.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HOW WE'RE STARTING TO WORK WITH THE SIGN WAY FINANCE SIGNAGE TO IDENTIFY THE EXIT AND ENTRY AND INTO THE SITE AS WELL.
THE, THE ADDRESS, UM, KIND OF COMING FROM WEST POINT DRIVE TO THE EAST, LOOKING KIND OF AT THE FORM OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE POSING THE SIGNAGE TO KIND OF LOOK IN ON EACH SIDE.
SO FROM WASHINGTON AND WEST POINT, UM, UH, SOUTH POINT DRIVE, WE'LL NOTICE, UH, THE PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION SIGNAGE AS WELL HERE ON THE RIGHT WITH LIKE A TRAVERTINE TYPE WALL MATERIAL WITH THE ADDRESS AND THE INTER EXIT OF VEHICULAR.
AND ALSO TO INTRODUCING THE UH, UH, LOUVER SYSTEM TO KIND OF WORK WITH THAT STARK FACADE.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY IN THE ONE-TO-ONE, WHEN YOU'RE UP NEXT TO IT, IT'S QUITE VAST, BUT, UM, IT HELPS THE BUILDING LAND IN THE LANDSCAPE A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO ITSELF.
AND TAKING THAT, THAT FORM AND ADDING WHAT WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING IS LIKE A STRUCTURAL ALUMINUM, UH, LURE SYSTEM WITH KIND OF A BREAK THERE THAT RUNS PARALLEL WITH THE, UM, FORT SHARE ITSELF TO KIND OF CUT THAT MATERIAL.
THERE'S THE ACTUAL TWO, TWO DIMENSIONAL ELEVATIONS AND ALSO TWO, UH, THE PORTIER ITSELF.
YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE VASTNESS OF THE STUCCO.
WE HAVE ABOUT A SIX INCH, UH, RECESSED DROP CEILING.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF SAME MATERIALITY ON THAT TURN INTO A DIFFERENT PLANE COMING STRAIGHT INTO THE LOBBY ITSELF AND TURNING THE, THE PLANTERS AROUND THE BUILDING TO RAISING THEM ABOUT 18 INCHES TO ALLOW FOR, UH, UH, ENOUGH ROOT BALL SPACE TO HAVE KIND OF SIGNIFICANT TREES WITHIN THIS.
UM, WITHIN THE, WHAT ARE DECOMMISSIONED FOUNTAINS ACTUALLY IN THE FRONT AND THEN HERE FROM THE WEST SIDE APPROACHING, UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF AND HOW THE LURE SYSTEM, THE SIGNAGE WORKS AND THE, THE FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE YARD, WHICH IS HIGHLY PERMEABLE.
UM, IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL, UM, TONALITY AS THE LOUVER SYSTEM AND IT WOULD BE MADE OF A STRUCTURAL ALUMINUM.
WE'RE PROPOSING KIND OF A WEAVE THERE WHERE THAT'S WHERE THE, THE WOMAN IS, IS THE 15 FOOT FIRE TRUCK EGRESS, EGRESS, UH, ACCESS.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A WOVEN MESH THAT REALLY PLAYS OFF.
THERE'S A MESH INSIDE THE LOBBY AT, UH, AT APIGEE AND KIND OF BRINGING THAT MATERIALITY AND FORM INTO THE PUBLIC REALM ITSELF, WHICH ALLOWS LIKE, VISIBILITY THROUGH THE SITE, BUT ALSO PROVIDES A LOT OF SECURITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO USE THIS SPACE SAFELY.
IT'S LIKE OFF LEASH DOGS AND ALSO CHILDREN CAN PLAY THERE TOO SAFELY.
UM, I THINK I'LL TURN IT BACK TO MICHAEL AND THIS SHOWS KIND OF JUST THE DIAGRAM OF WHERE THE FENCE WOULD BE.
UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE TO THE LEFT IS THE DOUBLE GATE FOR THE FIRE TRUCK, UH, EGRESS, UH, AND TWO, UH, PEDESTRIAN, UM, ACCESS GATES FOR THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO TO FURTHER TO THE SOUTH FOR, UH, UM, FOR A SERVICE.
AND SO THE EXTENT OF THE INTERVENTION WOULD BE, UH, THE WEST SIDE STREETSCAPE OUR DRIVE AISLES, UH, EAST SIDE STREET SCAPE AND AS WELL LEADING INTO THE PLANTER'S COMING DOWN INTO SOUTH POINT PARK TOO.
THEY HAVE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE PLANTED IN THAT KIND OF DENSE, UM, I THINK WRONG PLANTING, SOIL STUNTED GROWTH.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING THEM TO REPLACE THOSE WITH, UH, GREEN BUTTONWOOD TREES, WHICH ARE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE PARK, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ACROSS THE STREET TOO.
SO, SO THOSE ARE OUR THREE REQUESTS.
IT'S THE EAST SIDE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, THE BUILDING FACADE ACCESSIBILITY, SIGNAGE WAY FINDING, AND THEN THE WEST SIDE SU SHAPE IMPROVEMENTS.
AS USUAL, WE TRY TO GO OUT AND OBTAIN NEIGHBOR SUPPORT HERE.
WE HAVE SOUTH FIFTH NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE MASTER ASSOCIATION FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
MURANO IS OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.
PORT OF FINO IS OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
THESE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT RELATE TO THE WEST SIDE YARD IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT DON'T INSTALL THE FENCE AND DON'T INSTALL LANDSCAPING.
WE STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THESE CONDITIONS AND ASK FOR THEIR REMOVAL.
WE THINK THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT DETAILS FOR THE FENCE AND THE LANDSCAPE FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE THEM TODAY.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UM, YOUR APPROVAL.
WE'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL AND OUR WHOLE TEAM IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
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THANK YOU.UM, IS THAT EVERYBODY FROM YOUR SIDE WHO'S SPEAKING? UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT WILL SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
UM, WE CAN OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
GOOD MORNING, JOSEPH MILTON, UH, 800 SOUTH POINT DRIVE, APARTMENT 1101.
EXCUSE ME, SIR, WERE YOU SWORN IN EARLIER THIS MORNING? WAS I SWORN? NO.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
800 SOUTH POINT DRIVE UNIT 1101.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE NOW FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I LIVED THERE YEAR ROUND AND, UM, APOGEE IS A FANTASTIC COMMUNITY, BUT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPER TURNING OVER THE PLAZA SPACE TO THE EAST, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE GREEN SPACE.
VERY LITTLE GREEN SPACE TO, TO SHARE WITH OUR CHILDREN, UH, TO GO OUT AND PLAY AND TO WALK.
THERE'S JUST THAT SPACE TO THE WEST.
BY NOT HAVING A FENCE, THERE IS NO SECURITY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T REALLY BE OUT THERE AND, AND RELEASE YOUR DOG.
YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL PLAYING WITH YOUR CHILDREN.
SO IT IS, IT IS A SECURITY ISSUE JUST ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT THERE.
I, I WANNA BRING THE CLARITY 'CAUSE THEY SAY, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA BE BLOCKING THIS.
AND IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK.
THE FENCE IS BEING PLACED 25 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK, SO IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY FAR FROM THE SIDEWALK.
AND THIS FENCE IS FIVE FEET, WHICH IS REALLY NOT A TALL FENCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A LOW FENCE.
THE MURANO FENCE, WHICH IMMEDIATELY, UH, WEST OF US IS A SIX FOOT FENCE AND IT'S NOT REALLY A NICE DECORATIVE FENCE.
AND THAT FENCE LOCATION IS 10 FEET NORTH OF THE LOCATION OF OUR FENCE.
SO REALLY ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE IS A 25 FOOT PLAZA BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE RECOMMENDED PLACE WHERE THE FENCE WOULD BE.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE? WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONLINE.
WE HAVE, UH, ALEX'S PHONE TOO.
ALEX, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
PLEASE STATE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, ALEX HURST, 800 SOUTH POINT DRIVE.
I'VE BEEN A FULL-TIME RESIDENT AT AGIE FOR, UM, EIGHT YEARS NOW.
AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE APOGEE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR, UM, TO HEAR FROM US TODAY.
UH, TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE.
UM, WHAT WE INTEND OR WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE WEST SIDE YARD, UM, REALLY IS TWO, TWO SORT OF MAIN DRIVERS.
THE FIRST IS, UM, AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, UM, THERE IS A SECURITY ISSUE CURRENTLY WITH THAT, WITH, WITH THAT YARD, UM, WHICH, WHICH IS THE BUILDING'S PROPERTY.
HAVING LIVED THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE INCIDENTS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN HOMELESS PEOPLE.
UM, IN THAT YARD, THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND WHO THINK IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A, A, A REAL ISSUE OF PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS IN THAT SPACE.
UM, AND IT'S SIMPLY NOT FUNCTIONAL GREEN SPACE FOR THE BUILDING.
UM, EVERY OTHER PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING MURANO, PORTOFINO, WHICH IS NEXT DOOR TO US, HAVE FENCED OFF THEIR AREAS, UM, USING WAY LESS INTERESTING DESIGNS, UM, AND WAY CLOSER TO PUBLIC SPACES, MEANING SIDEWALKS THAN WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO HERE.
SO, UH, THIS IS A SECURITY ISSUE.
IT'S A, IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK IT IMPACTS, IN THEORY, IT SHOULDN'T IMPACT ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THAT SPACE IN THEORY ISN'T, ISN'T THEIRS TO USE.
UM, AND SO BY PUTTING A DECORATIVE FENCE THERE, I THINK WE'RE MAKING THAT TURN FROM SOUTH POINT DRIVE.
FROM, FROM, UH, AS YOU COME DOWN, ALTON ONTO SOUTH POINT DRIVE A, UM, A A LOT PRETTIER.
I ALSO THINK YOU'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SOLVING A SECURITY ISSUE.
UM, AND THERE SIMPLY ISN'T ANY VIEW CORRIDOR DOWN AS YOU LOOK SOUTH THROUGH THAT SPACE.
I'VE LIVED IN THAT BUILDING FOR YEARS.
IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A NEGATIVE FEW CORRIDOR.
THERE'S JUST SIMPLY NOTHING TO LOOK AT.
UM, AS YOU LOOK DOWN NORTH TO SOUTH, UM, TOWARDS SOUTH POINT PARK, UM, IT'S NEVER BEEN A VIEW CORRIDOR.
AND I JUST THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A, AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF, OF THAT SPACE.
AND FRANKLY, WHAT WE INTEND TO DO BY PUTTING A FENCE THERE, IF ANYTHING, IT MAKES IT AESTHETICALLY MORE POSITIVE.
UM, IN ADDITION, OUR PLAN TO BEAUTIFY THE WEST SIDE, I'M SORRY, THE EAST SIDE PLAZA, WE THINK IS A HUGE ADDITION, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WILL MAKE THE ENTRANCE TO THE, THE, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO SOUTH POINT PARK, UM, A WAY BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE VERSUS A WINDSWEPT PLAZA THAT REALLY DOESN'T SERVE
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ANY PURPOSE AND FRANKLY FEELS LIKE, UH, A BARREN SPACE AND HAS NEVER WORKED, UM, SINCE IT WAS BUILT BY THE DEVELOPERS.SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S AN EXPENSE TO THE BUILDING TO DO THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE'RE ADDING TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY AS DOES SO FNA AND OTHERS, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
AND, AND SO WE HOPE THAT, UM, THIS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, TAKES ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, AS THEY SEEK TO POTENTIALLY APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE? I SEE NO OTHER HANDS ARE RAISED, SOME PEOPLE PUBLIC.
MATTHEW, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
I LIVE AT 1 25 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
AND, UH, I WANT TO, I JUST RECENTLY LEARNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I SAW THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT SAYS THAT THEY REPRESENT 5,000, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THEY REVIEWED THIS PLAN.
I'VE ATTENDED EVERY MEETING OF THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, I HAVE RECEIVED THE AGENDAS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS PROJECT PRESENTED TO THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO I'M CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE EXPRESSING SUPPORT WHEN THIS HASN'T BEEN IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, FOR REVIEW, FOR COMMENTS THERE.
UM, SO I DID WATCH THE PRESENTATION AND IT WAS GREAT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
I WALKED BY THIS LOCATION EITHER ON THE EAST OR THE WEST SIDE ENTRANCES TO SOUTH POINT PARK WITH MY FAMILY, WITH MY CHILDREN MANY TIMES PER WEEK.
AND, UH, I'LL AGREE TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT THE LIVE OAKS ARE STUNTED AND THAT THIS WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO REPLACE THOSE OF MORE APPROPRIATE TREES.
UM, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TREND IN THE CITY.
I'M TAKING PUBLIC SPACES AND MAKING THEM HOSTILE TO PEOPLE TO ENJOY.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE.
I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE APOGEE.
I DO KNOW THAT OTHER BIG PROJECTS IN THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? LIKE, UH, PRIVATELY OPERATED PUBLIC SPACES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE OCEAN PROJECT HAS A LITTLE PARK AREA THAT ACTUALLY IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT WAS LOCKED UP FOR YEARS.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME HISTORY THAT PERHAPS WE COULD LEARN ABOUT.
UM, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING PUBLIC SPACES HOSTILE, HOSTILE ARCHITECTURE WITH SEP TED PRINCIPLES, WITH, UH, MAKING IT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THESE PUBLIC SPACES BECAUSE SOUTH POINT PARK IS A GEM.
THE ROADS AND THE PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY THAT LEAD TOWARDS THEIR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AREAS ARE BEAUTIFULLY DONE IN THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'VE WORKED WITH ROHELIO AND ALEJANDRO, I PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE PLANNING BOARD.
I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
AND IF THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, I IMAGINE THAT THERE'S GOOD REASONS FOR IT.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SAYING THAT THEY FULLY SUPPORT IT WHEN IT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I HAVE RESPECT FOR THE STAFF THAT MAKES THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND LASTLY, I JUST WANNA SAY THE APOGEE ARE LIKE THE QUIET NEIGHBORS THAT BOTHER.
NO ONE, UM, NO ONE REALLY HEARS FROM THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A BIG PRESENCE ALONG SOUTH POINT DRIVE, BUT THEY DON'T CAUSE PROBLEMS. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, UM, IN A CITY WHERE MANY PEOPLE MAKE A LOT OF NOISE ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
UM, SO I'M NOT HERE SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION, I THINK SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH A SERIOUS, UM, IN A SERIOUS MANNER.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.
AND I'M SPEAKING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF APPLE G CONDOMINIUM AND FROM THE SUSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PERSONALLY MANAGING THE SECURITY TEAM OPERATIONS.
YOUR, YOUR NAME OR APPROXIMATELY OVER A DECADE TO I WILL PROVIDE SOME INFORM.
MY NAME IS LOGAN GONZALEZ, UH, CAPTAIN OF SECURITY.
WERE YOU SWORN IN BEFORE? YES, SIR.
I WILL PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES AND INCIDENTS WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS.
JANUARY 4TH, 2026, AT APPROXIMATELY 9:30 AM SECURITY WAS NOTIFIED OF TWO INDIVIDUALS WALKING TWO DOGS OFF THE LEASH OF THE PROPERTY.
THE INDIVIDUAL'S DOGS APPROACHED A RESIDENT WHO WAS WALKING THEIR DOG CREATING A CONCERNING SITUATION.
ONE CONFRONTED THE INDIVIDUAL STATED THAT THEY BELIEVED THE PROPERTY WAS PUBLIC SECURITY, CLARIFIED THAT THE AREA
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WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE DOGS MUST BE KEPT ON A LEASH IN ACCORDANCE TO THE PROPERTY RULES.JULY 3RD, 2025 AT APPROXIMATELY 7:00 AM A RESIDENT REPORTED OBSERVING AN UNKNOWN INDIVIDUAL OF TWO DOGS, REMOVING A ROLL OF THE PET WASTE BAGS FROM THE WASTE STATION LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
THE INDIVIDUAL WAS DESCRIBED TO BE A STRANGER AND NOT RECOGNIZED AS A RESIDENT OF THE BUILDING.
SECURITY WAS NOTIFIED OF THE SITUATION AND DOCUMENTED THE INCIDENT.
SECURITY PERSONNEL WILL REMAIN ALERT AND MONITOR THE AREA OF, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT SHOULD RETURN TO THE PROPERTY.
MY GOAL TODAY IS NOT TO OPPOSE THE PROGRESS OR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT TO ENSURE THAT SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS ARE FULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE PLANNING PROCESS.
BY DOING SO, WE PROTECT NOT ONLY THE PHYSICAL PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THE LIFESTYLE, COMFORT AND CONFIDENCE OF THE RESIDENTS OF HERE AT APOGEE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER HAND THAT WAS RAISED ON LINE.
KEITH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
UH, KEITH MARKS 50 SOUTH POINT DRIVE, UM, SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED MYSELF.
UH, NO, SONA DID NOT DO A PRESENTATION.
I IF THERE IS A LETTER, I ASSUME IT WAS SIGNED BY ALLISON HERMAN, UH, WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO, UH, PROVIDE JUST A PORTOFINO AND PORTOFINO MASTER SUPPORT.
WE DID NOT BRING THIS IN FRONT OF SONA.
UH, BUT, AND THIS IS A HUGE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS 13 ACRES COMPLETELY FENCED IN, SPENDS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS ON, UH, SOFTWARE, UH, SECURITY AND ABOUT THE SAME FOR GUARDS.
UH, I FIND IT JUST RIDICULOUS IS THE WORD.
UH, AS OPPOSED TO RESPECTFUL THAT THE, UH, STAFF WOULD TALK ABOUT VIEW QUARTERS OF A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT SECURED.
UH, WE HAVE
UH, AND HAVING SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS WHO WANT TO GO TO THE ROOFTOPS OF BUILDINGS AND TAKE DANGEROUS PICTURES OF THEM STANDING ON THE CROWNS OF ROOFS.
UH, WE HAVE TO SECURE OUR PROPERTIES.
UH, IT IS NOT THE CITY'S RIGHT TO TELL SOMEBODY ABOUT VIEW CORRIDORS OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH THERE ISN'T ONE AT APOGEE.
AND I IMPLORE, UH, THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE RESIDENT'S RE RESIDENT'S RIGHTS AND THE, AND THE SECURITY ASPECT OF HIGH, UH, RENT PROPERTIES, HIGH OWNED PROPERTIES AND THE DIFFICULTY OF, AND THE MONEY SPENT TRYING TO SECURE IT.
I CANNOT IMAGINE IF WE HAD AREA, UH, EQUIVALENT IN CONTINUUM THAT WAS OPEN, UH, WHAT IT WOULD DO TO OUR RESIDENCE.
ANYBODY ELSE? ONLINE OR ON NO OTHER HANDS RAISED ONLINE? ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? THAT, UH, CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC PORTION.
JUST A BRIEF REBUTTAL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO THIS WEST SIDE YARD IS NOT A PUBLIC SPACE, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND UNDER THE CASE LAW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE IS NO RIGHT TO A VIEW ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ANY PARTICULAR VISTA.
WHETHER IT'S A NEIGHBOR WANTING IT OR THE CITY, THERE'S JUST NO RIGHT TO IT.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS CHARACTERIZED THIS AREA AS A OPEN SPACE VIEW CORRIDOR.
THE OPEN SPACE IS CORRECT AND THE OPEN SPACE WILL REMAIN ONCE THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INSTALLED.
BUT THERE SIMPLY IS NO VEHICLE CORRIDOR FROM SOUTH POINT DRIVE LOOKING SOUTH TO GOVERNMENT CUT OR SOUTH POINT PARK.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL CONCLUDE OUR REBUTTAL.
AND AGAIN, WE RESPECT, UH, WE ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL TODAY.
UM, THAT OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD.
UM, I GUESS MY FIRST POINT WOULD BE, I WISH MORE BUILDINGS DID THIS.
WHAT'S THAT? I WISH MORE BUILDINGS WOULD DO THIS.
AND THE PUBLIC SPACES BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY CREATING
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A BARREN PUBLIC SPACE TO TURN IT INTO A PARK THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ENJOY.I DO AGREE YOU NEED A FENCE BECAUSE ALL THE CONCERNS THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS HAVE NOTED THAT THEY LIVE THERE ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO WHY WOULD THEY NOT BE THE BEST ONES THAT JUDGE IN THAT, BUT THAT JUST, YEAH.
UM, IT'S A WARMER, GREENER AND MORE BUYING DESIGN AND IT'S, UH, THE, THE VEGETATION AND THE TREES AND, UH, ARE THEY GONNA BE FULL GROWN WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED OR ARE THEY GONNA BE SAPLINGS WHEN THEY OH, THEY'LL BE ESTABLISHED TREES, ESTABLISHED TREES WHEN THEY NOT NOT COLLECTED, BUT IT'S KIND OF BEST TO PUT 'EM IN A LITTLE YOUNG, LET 'EM GET ACCLIMATED TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WIND TUNNEL.
AND EVEN TOO, LIKE THE SOLAR ASPECT FROM THE BUILDING IS A VERY CHALLENGING AREA THERE ON THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY I APPRECIATE HAVING MORE, UH, GROWTH, UH MM-HMM
SO I HAVE NO, NO COMMENTS ABOUT THE DESIGN.
UM, I JUST WANT A SECOND WHAT YOU SAID, AKIL.
I THINK THAT IT'S AN INCREDIBLE ENHANCEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE SOUTH OF FIFTH AND I THINK THAT WITH THE DESIGN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROPOSED, YOU'RE JOINING THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S A MUCH WARMER DESIGN AND FEELS LIKE YOU'RE REALLY PARTICIPATING IN THE AMAZING PARK GROUNDS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THERE.
I ALSO, UM, CASE LAW BEING, UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT, UM, THAT GR THAT GREEN AREA THAT'S THE DOG RUN OR WHATEVER IS NOT A VIEW CORRIDOR.
I'VE ONLY REALLY NOTICED IT A FEW TIMES WHEN, WHEN WALKING THAT PATH.
AND I THINK THE FENCE YOU'RE PROPOSING IS MOST TASTEFUL AND MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO HAVE A VIEW.
SO THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PROPOSAL.
I HAPPEN TO BE A DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THIS SITE AND I, UM, AND I WALK MY DOG THROUGH, UH, THAT AREA EVERY DAY.
IS THE AREA TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE BEAUTIFYING, IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE AREA TO THE WESTERN OTHER WORDS? IT'S STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? MM-HMM
AND, BUT PEOPLE WALK THROUGH IT, RIGHT? AND APOGEE ALLOWS PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH IT, BUT IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, CORRECT? RIGHT.
THAT'S OUR CHOICE THOUGH, AS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT'S OPEN SPACE.
SO BY DEFAULT WHEN PEOPLE SEE IT, THEY SEE THE LEFT SIDE, THEY SEE THE RIGHT SIDE.
YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THE LEFT SIDE, YOU'RE LIKE, WHY CAN'T YOU WALK THROUGH THE RIGHT SIDE? I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UM, INCORRECTLY SINCE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S KIND OF LOOKS INVITING.
I WALK MY DOG AND, AND I'LL GRAB, YOU KNOW, POOP BAGS FROM THAT SIDE AND, AND HE'LL STOP THERE FOR A SECOND AND I'LL CONTINUE TO WALK MY, YOU KNOW, MY WAY.
SAME WAY HOW PEOPLE WALK THROUGH MURANO AND WE HAVE THAT LAWN AREA, WHICH IS JUST EAST, I MEAN JUST WEST OF OUR BUILDING THAT GO BORDERS THE BOARDWALK.
AND PEOPLE USED TO WALK IN THAT LAWN A LOT AND THEY PUT A, A SMALL HEDGE OF LANDSCAPING TO PREVENT PEOPLE JUST TO WALK IN.
SO IT'S NOT SO INVITING TO JUST WALK INTO ITS OPEN SPACE ON BOTH SIDES.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT OPEN CORRIDOR SPACE.
YOU CAN NEVER SEE THE PARK THROUGH THERE.
UM, IS THE IDEA TO FENCE IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE YOU ALSO WANT TO REMOVE THE FENCE OF THE DOG PARK AREA THAT YOU GUYS HAVE INTERNALLY THERE TO MAKE IT ONE BIG AREA? OR ARE YOU GONNA STILL LEAVE THE FENCE BETWEEN THAT AREA AND THE AREA THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FENCED IN ALREADY? GOOD QUESTION.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE EXISTING FENCE.
SO YOU ARE GONNA REMOVE THAT FENCE AND MAKE THAT WHOLE ENTIRE AREA JUST ONE BIG YES.
ACCESSIBLE, UH, BACKYARD GATED AREA.
UH, MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOUR FEET AND YOU'RE PLANNING ON FIVE FEET.
MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, DEFER TO THE FOUR FEET HEIGHT VERSUS THE FIVE FEET HEIGHT ON THE FENCE.
MAYBE THE LANDSCAPING COULD ADD ONTO THAT AS A, AS A POSSIBLE, UH, OPTION.
THE BEAUTIFICATION TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING TO THE FACADE IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.
I THINK IT'S GONNA ADD A LOT OF VALUE TO THE BUILDING, TO THE AREA.
JUST LOOKING AT IT AESTHETICALLY, IT LOOKS GREAT.
UM, AND ON A SIDE NOTE, I WANT TO JUST MAKE REFERENCE TO WHAT MATTHEW BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE, UH, APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION LETTERS, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS.
IT WOULD BE GOOD, UM, MICHAEL, TO HAVE THESE LETTERS.
I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A DATE TO THESE LETTERS? 'CAUSE THESE LETTERS DON'T HAVE ANY DATES ON THEM.
UM, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD THAT THESE LETTERS IN GENERAL, NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO HAVE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION FROM ASSOCIATIONS WITHOUT HAVING A DATE, NUMBER ONE.
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MENTIONING THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP ON, YOU KNOW, A BOARD MEETING OR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO THE ASSOCIATION AND THAT IT WAS A FAVORABLE VOTE.UH, THERE'S ALSO A LETTER THERE FROM, UH, JOHN MCC, CAPRIO FROM MURANO'S ASSOCIATION, GIVING THEIR LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WAS ALSO NEVER BROUGHT UP TO OUR BUILDING.
SO NO ONE IN OUR BUILDING HAS SEEN THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER LETTER THAT WAS SENT.
NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING AGAINST, YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS THE BUILDING, BUT THE BUILDING'S NEVER SEEN IT.
SO I THINK JUST AS A GENERAL POLICY, WHEN WE RECEIVE THESE LETTERS, BECAUSE IF I'M LISTENING TO THIS PRESENTATION FROM AN OUTSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE, I HEAR THIS AND I AUTOMATICALLY, I ASSUME THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP, IT WAS DISCUSSED, EVERYBODY WAS IN FAVOR OF IT, AND THEY GAVE YOU A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S NOT THE CASE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE BUILDINGS OR THE ASSOCIATIONS WOULD NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN IN FAVOR OF IT.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPOSAL, BUT IN GENERAL, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD ASSUME NOW BY SEEING THIS, THAT THESE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN ESSENCE VALID.
AND IT'S NOT JUST AN OPINION OF ONE BOARD MEMBER OR ONE PERSON FROM AN ASSOCIATION.
YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A, A BEAUTIFUL ENHANCEMENT OVERALL, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE PLAZA.
UM, I AM, I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES.
I THINK THAT THE DIVERSITY AND THE PLANT LIFE IS, IS MUCH NEEDED AND IT'S GONNA, UM, REALLY ENHANCE THAT SPACE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS A DIRECT CORRIDOR TO THE PARK, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, I DO THINK IT THE, IN THE, IN THE CASE STUDY THAT YOU SHOW OR THE INSPIRATION FROM SOUTH POINT PARK, I MEAN THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE AREAS OF SOUTH POINT PARK.
UH, I THINK IT'S A NICE DIFFERENCE TO THE MANICURED, YOU KNOW, LAWNS THAT MM-HMM
MAKE UP MODES OF SOUTH POINT PARK.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MAKES THAT SPACE SO SUCCESSFUL IS THE, LIKE, IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF LIKE A NATIVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLORIDA.
THE PLANT LIFE THERE IS IS IS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S THERE, I THINK THERE'S CABBAGE PALMS, THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT JUST SPEAK MORE TO LIKE THE ORIGINAL FLORIDA.
AND, AND I REALIZE YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE EXISTING PALMS THAT YOU'VE GOT, BUT PERHAPS JUST WITH, I THINK THERE'S SOME GRASSES AND STUFF THAT THEY USE, UM, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION OF MINE TO MAYBE KIND OF PICK UP THAT MORE NATURAL FLORIDA LANDSCAPE.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF JUST HAVING DIVERSITY AND SHADE TREES THERE, I THINK THAT'S SUCH A MUCH NEEDED, UM, ENHANCEMENT TO THE SPACE, UM, ON THE BUILDING FACADE.
I, I AM LARGELY HAPPY WITH THAT.
I WISH WE SAW A SAMPLE OF THE CLADDING THOUGH.
UM, IT IS, UM, I THINK, YEAH, I JUST WISH I COULD HAVE KIND OF LIKE SEEN HOW THAT WAS GONNA INTERPLAY.
DO YOU HAVE THAT CLADDING USED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE BUILDING OR IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE A BRAND NEW? ITS SOMETHING OF THE EAST, NORTH AND WEST SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INCORPORATED ANYWHERE ELSE AS EXISTING, RIGHT? THIS IS NEW, NO.
UM, SO YEAH, I, I GUESS I JUST COULD HAVE SEEN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I DO THINK IT MAKES IT MORE WARM OVERALL, ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INCORPORATED AS PRESENTED HERE.
UM, AND THEN AS TO THE WEST SIDE, YEAH, I AGREE.
I'M NOT IN SOUTH OF FIFTH, BUT I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE AND I GO BY HERE ALL THE TIME.
JUST, I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, KIND OF IS THE VIBE I GOT FROM IT.
UM, SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL OBJECTION WITH, WITH THE FENCING.
I DO WISH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SEEN MORE DETAIL ON IT, BUT IN TERMS OF, OF CLOSING OFF THAT AREA, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S HURTING THE PUBLIC, UM, TO, TO CLOSE THAT OFF YOU.
THERE'S NO DIRECT WAY TO GET TO THE SOUTH POINT FROM THERE, NOR IS THERE REALLY A VIEW TO BE SEEN.
SO, UM, I'M OVERALL OKAY WITH THE FENCING.
UM, I THINK LIKE ONE OF YOU ALL SUGGESTED PERHAPS INCORPORATING SOME SHRUBBERY OR SOMETHING MAY MAKE IT LESS MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE CAN DO THAT FORTRESS OR SOMETHING.
BUT I DON'T, NOT THAT I THINK THAT THE, THE ONE IMAGE WE HAVE OF THE GATE LOOKS THAT WAY.
BUT, UM, THAT COULD BE A NICE WAY TO JUST MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, LESS LIKE THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT UM, STILL MAINTAIN SOME SEPARATENESS.
UM, SO WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESENTED WITH THE PLANS, YES OR NO? UM, WE WORKED WITH, UH, ALLISON HERMAN FROM, SHE'S A BOARD MEMBER OF THE, OF THE SOUTH OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SHE'S A PRESIDENT OF
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PORTOFINO ASSOCIATION AND THEN WITH JOHN CAPRIO.OH, WAS THERE A PUBLIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS COMMUNITY OF PRESENTATION.
UM, AM I CAN, SINCE WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS, CAN I UNDERSTAND THE STAFF'S CONCERN WITH THE, WITH THE FENCE? SURE.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED, IT WAS A VIEW CORRIDOR TO THE BAY.
UM, WE HAVE, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOME IMAGES, 2009 GOOGLE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU, THE, THERE WAS A VIEW CORRIDOR TO THE BAY.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COMMONLY TRY TO ENCOURAGE.
IT'S PART OF, UH, IF, IF THIS WERE DIRECTLY ON BISCAYNE BAY, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE BISCAYNE BAY SHORELINE REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH REQUIRES THAT THERE BE, UH, VIEW CORRIDORS FACING THE BAY.
ONE OF THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA, UM, LET ME GO TO IT, IS, UM, THAT THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE HAS AN ORIENTATION IN MASSING, WHICH IS SENSITIVE TO AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING SITE AND SURROUNDING AREA AND WHICH CREATES OR MAINTAINS IMPORTANT VIEW CORRIDORS.
SO WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS FIRST APPROVED, THERE WAS A VIEW CORRIDOR THAT ALLOWED A VIEW TO THE BAY.
AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS IN, IS ESSENTIALLY TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT VIEW CORRIDOR THAT EXISTED.
IT'S TRUE THAT SINCE THEN TREES HAVE GROWN IN, UM, IN SOUTH POINT PARK THAT HAVE, UH, BLOCKED THAT VIEW THAT USED TO EXIST TO THE BAY.
UM, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THAT.
THERE WAS A VIEW CORRIDOR THERE THAT WAS, UM, THAT PROVIDED A VIEW OUT TO THE BAY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION STEMS FROM CHAIR.
JUST, UM, TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I LIVED THERE AND THE ALASKAN SITE, WHEN THAT WAS GIVEN BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEGOTIATIONS BACK IN 2004 WHEN THAT WAS ORGANIZED BETWEEN RELATED AND THE CITY AND THE, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THAT WAS SETTLED, THAT PORTION OF APOGEE WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE CITY AND THAT CORRIDOR, THERE WERE LARGE TREES THAT WERE INSTALLED THAT THE CITY ON THAT SITE.
SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A VIEW CORRIDOR TO THE PARK OR THE BAY THERE FOR OVER A DECADE BECAUSE TREES WERE INSTALLED THERE BY THE CITY FOR THE PARK, WHICH ELIMINATED THE VIEW CORRIDOR.
SO THAT VIEW CORRIDOR MM-HMM
DOES NOT EXIST EVER FOR, I MEAN, FOR A VERY LONG TIME BECAUSE OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY PLANTED THOSE TREES ON THE PARK AND THEY'RE BIG TREES.
UM, ALRIGHT, I'M, I'M BREAK THIS DOWN INTO THREE PARTS.
EAST, WEST AND, AND THEN THE, THE CLADDING.
UM, EAST SEEMS LIKE DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT AND A NICE ENTRYWAY TO THE PARK.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WATER CONTROL IS MAJOR THERE.
UM, I DON'T SEE SEATING THERE.
AND MAYBE ON PURPOSE, UM, WITHIN THE RENDERINGS IS, IS THAT TRYING TO NOT ACTIVATE IT SO PEOPLE SIT THERE AND I ASSUME THIS IS MAINTAINED BY THE BUILDING MM-HMM
IS YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SIT THERE FOR, FOR ANY REASON, JUST PUTTING ANY BENCHES OR, OR SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO BENCHES PROPOSED.
IS IT'S MAINLY JUST A, A PASS THROUGH CORRIDOR EXACTLY HOW IT IS TODAY, HOW IT FUNCTIONS.
UM, NO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S NICE.
AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING THAT REGULAR GRID THAT WAS THERE OF, OF PALMS AND BRINGING IT CLOSER TO THE SORT OF NATIVE, I I THINK THAT'S NICE.
UM, NOW THE CLADDING, UM, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, IS THERE A RENOVATION OF THE LOBBY GOING ON OR ANYTHING ON THE INTERIOR? NO.
SO IS THERE, IT'S HARD 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT CLADDING AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS A MINIMALIST, MONOLITHIC GROUND ENTRANCE THAT HAS, IT'S QUITE UNIQUE.
I, I, UH, AND, AND ALWAYS SORT OF STUCK OUT AS STARK LIKE THAT.
AND, AND I GET SOME OF THESE MOVES HERE.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, TO LOOK AT THE COL CLADDING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE.
'CAUSE I, I DON'T MIND SO MUCH THE WALL CLADDING, BUT THE KO SHARE UNDERSIDE IS SOFTENS IT UP.
BUT THAT'S SORT OF A, A MAIN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT TRANSLATES INSIDE.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE HOLISTIC VISION FOR THIS? BECAUSE, SO THE, UH, YOU'RE CHANGING THE, YOU'RE CHANGING COMPLETELY, RIGHT? THE THE LOOK OF THE BASE OF THIS BUILDING.
YEAH, AND I, AND I HAD THE SAME FEEL THAT YOU DID.
I THOUGHT THAT THAT WHITE STARK, UM, LOOK WAS FLOATING OVER WATER WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD SEEN BEFORE OUT IN, UM, RA WORK OUT IN SPAIN.
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A BEAUTIFUL REF REFLECTIVE FEELING.UM, THE, THE LOUVERS ARE A WOOD FINISH, AND I DON'T MEAN A WOOD PAINT, LIKE, LIKE IT'S NOT A SMOOTH FINISH LIKE YOU SEE HERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A TEXTURED WOOD FINISH THAT'S APPLIED TO THE METAL ALUMINUM AND, AND IT FEELS REAL.
IT JUST, IT'S ALSO MADE OUT OF, OF, OF A OR A PVC MATERIAL TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE WEATHER.
UH, SO IT HAS A REAL NATURAL WOOD LOOK TO IT, WHICH IS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU DON'T WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE, LIKE A METAL FINISH IN THE, IN THE LOBBY.
WE ARE, WE ARE PLANNING TO OPEN UP THE LOBBY BY REMOVING THESE METAL LURES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE LOBBY.
IF YOU GOT EVER GOT INTO OUR LOBBY OF THESE HUGE METAL LOUVRES, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THROUGH TO THE WATERFALL TO THE WATER FEATURE, WHICH WE'RE ALSO ENHANCING THAT BY CREATING MORE VOLUME AND MORE, UM, BREAK AS IT FALLS.
SO YOU CAN SEE MORE OF IT AS YOU'RE WALKING INTO THE BUILDING.
UH, SO IT'LL BE MUCH MORE OPEN.
AND I, AND WE REALLY FEEL THE LUBERS REALLY MORE LIKE TUNNEL YOU RIGHT IN THERE IN A VERY, IN A MORE WARMER ENVIRONMENT THAN WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO WE'RE ALSO THE, THE TREADS, AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THE TREADS BEING ENHANCED TO GIVE YOU A MORE ELEGANT FEEL INSTEAD OF HAVING THESE, THESE 12 INCH TREADS, THEY'RE GOING TO 18 INCH TREADS.
SO THE WHOLE ENTRANCE WILL FEEL MORE ELEGANT.
BUT THE, THE, THE IDEA OF THE, OF THE LOBBY AND THERE IS CONSIDERATION ALSO TO BRING WOOD INTO THE LOBBY, BUT THAT, THAT THE LOBBY COMMITTEE IS STILL WORKING ON.
IN FACT, WE HAVE A MEETING ON THAT, UH, MONDAY TO, TO CONSIDER BRINGING WOOD INTO THE LOBBY.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW REALLY THE LOBBY WALLS ARE ALL, ALL STONED, BUT IT IS ALSO A, A, A STONE THAT, THAT REFLECTS VERY SIMILAR COLORS TO THE WOOD THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE LOUVERS, UH, WRAPPING THE BASE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE LOBBY DESIGN ISN'T COMPLETED YET.
IT'S INCOMPLETE, BUT CONCEPTUALLY IT IS TO OPEN IT UP? UH, WE ARE, WE ARE, UM, MAKING MINOR CHANGES, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEFINED THEM YET.
UM, AND THE, THE REFERENCE TO CALL TO COLORADO IS TRUE 'CAUSE IT'S A REFLECTING POOLS AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT STANDS OUT FOR THAT BUILDING.
UM, EAST SIDE, I'M, I THINK I'M MORE SO LEANING WITH THE BOARD HERE THAT YOU GUYS WANT A PRIVATE DOG RUN THAT'S BIGGER, THAT'S CONTROLLED AND YOU'RE GONNA LANDSCAPE IT BEAUTIFULLY AND, AND BE MORE SECURE AND THEY'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BLOCKING ANYTHING THAT WASN'T ALREADY BLOCKED.
SO I DON'T SEE, I UNDERSTAND THE STAFF'S PRESERVATION OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT FOR SURE.
UM, AND THAT WAS A GOOD POINT ABOUT, UM, THEM PLANTING THE CITY PLANTING TREES WHEN, WHEN IT WAS GIVEN OVER SO THEY SORT OF BLOCKED IT ON THEIR OWN YEARS AGO.
UM, I CAN'T, I'M NOT MAKING ANY, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO DO? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE, UH, THE PLANS AS PRESENTED WITH A MODIFICATION THAT THE FENCE BE FOUR FEET PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET, AND THEN ADD LAURA'S SUGGESTION ABOUT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
IS ANYONE IN, IS ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THE CLADDING OF THE, OF THE CANOPY AND THE WALLS THAT I DO FOR POTENTIALLY BREAKING THAT PORT ART THAT PART OF THE PROJECT OUT TO FURTHER LOOK AT? NOT REALLY.
I MEAN, I SORT OF TRUST WHERE THE DESIGN'S GOING.
UM, IDEALLY YES, BUT I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY TO HOLD UP THE APPROVAL.
I DON'T, THAT'S JUST MY, MY THOUGHT.
I I, I TRUST THAT, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN LEAVE THAT TO STAFF THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MATERIALS ARE GONNA BE OF EQUALITY THAT IS ACCEPTABLE, UM, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND, AND MAYBE WE, I WILL REINFORCE TO, THERE'S A LOT OF SLOTS AROUND MIAMI.
THIS MATERIALS USED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND A LOT OF ARCHITECTS AND CONCLUDING MYSELF, IT'S NICE AND IT'S IN, UH, I, I, I USE IT.
I, BUT JUST KEEPING THE, THE PRESERVATION OF THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE AND, AND MATERIALS IN MIND, WHICH I KNOW YOU HAVE.
I'M JUST SORT OF SAYING THIS OUT LOUD, OUT LOUD.
UM, WHEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS.
AND, AND JUST THE REMOVAL OF THE TWO STAFF CONDITIONS THAT PROHIBIT THE FENCE AND PROHIBIT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE WEST SIDE YARD.
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MODIFYING THE, THE HEIGHTS OF THE FENCE TO FOUR FEET PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO FOUR FEET TO FOUR FEET, INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPE, INCLUDING RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING AROUND THE FENCE.SORRY, ONE LAST THING IS, IS THE FLOODING IN THE ROAD RIGHT THERE? THERE'S NO WAY THAT WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE PLANTING THERE CAN HELP ABSORB WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE BECAUSE THAT, THAT CORNER IS NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WATER FLOODING THAT GOES BACK TO THAT AREA AT ALL.
RIGHT, BUT THAT IS THE CORNER THAT'S ALWAYS FLOODED, RIGHT? NO.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS SIDE, IT, IT'S, UH, NOW WITH CITY, YOU KNOW, WATER PUMPS AND THEY, THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE, BUT I, THAT CORNER DOES NOT GET FLOODED.
I WAS LIKE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO REDO THIS, MAYBE THEY COULD ABSORB A LITTLE OF THE WATER IF IT WAS ON, ON THE PREMISES, IF POSSIBLE.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN WATER TO THAT LEVEL.
I JUST REMEMBER LIKE DRIVING THROUGH A LOT OF PUDDLES SOMEWHERE.
IT USED TO BE SOMETIMES, YEAH.
SO IT'S, THANK GOD THEY, THEY FIXED THAT.
THE MOTION IS TO, UM, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL REVISE THE CONDITION SO THAT THE FENCE AND GATE SHALL BE PERMITTED NOT TO EXCEED FOUR FEET.
AND THEN WE'LL ADD SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STAFF, AND THEN WE WILL REVISE THE LANDSCAPE CONDITION, UM, SO THAT THE PROPOSED NEW LANDSCAPING LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, UH, TO THE WEST OF THE DRIVEWAY SHALL BE PERMITTED.
UM, AND THE ENTIRE, AND THEN I'LL, AND THEN I'LL STRIKE THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE SHALL RETAIN THE CURRENT PLANNING DESIGN WITH NO CHANGES.
LAURA HAD WANTED IT ENHANCED AND LANDSCAPING ALONG ENHANCED LANDSCAPING TO THAT ALONG THE, THE LIGHTING ELEMENTS.
UM, THE, THE PROPOSED, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE, THE LIGHTING ELEMENTS ON EITHER SIDE, SPECIFICALLY MORE ON THE EAST SIDE TO ALL THE TWO YOU'RE ADDING, ARE ALL OF THEM BEING PROPERTY COVERED WITH LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT? YES.
I WOULD IMAGINE WE, I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE THE LIGHTING IS, IS CRITICAL IN THE DESIGN.
AND SO AGAIN, I THINK STAFF TAKES CARE OF THE LIGHTING PER, PER CODE AND, AND EVERYTHING WHICH LOW LOW LIGHTING, LESS, LESS, LESS POST LIGHTING.
SO WE HAD A MOTION BY MR. ION.
ANY OPPOSED? NO MOTION PASSES.
OKAY, NEXT ONE WILL BE ONE OCEAN IS CONTINUED, SO WE WILL GO TO 1 0 4 SAN MARINO.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE
[7. DRB25-1147, 104 E SAN MARINO DRIVE.]
RRB 25 11 47 1 0 4 EAST SAN MARINO DRIVE.UH, THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A VARIANCE OF THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SPIRALED STAIR VARIANCE, A VARIANCE FOR THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD FACING THE STREET FOR A PLANTER AND A TERRACE, AND A VARIANCE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WALK OF WALKWAYS AND THE STAIRS TO EXCEED 44 INCHES IN WIDTH TO BE LOCATED IN THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD FACING THE STREET AND A VARIANCE OF THE REQUIRED YARD OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING RESIDENCE.
SO, UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IT'S LOCATED ON SAN MARINO ISLAND, WHICH IS ONE OF THE VENETIAN ISLANDS.
IT IS IN THE RS FOUR DISTRICT.
UM, THE LOT, UM, IS ORIENTED WHERE THE FUNCTIONAL FRONT YARD IS ON THE SIDE FACING A STREET.
AND WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FRONT YARD IS ACTUALLY TREATED AS A SIDE FACING A STREET.
SO THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THE HOMES ARE ORIENTED, UM, ALONG SAN MARINA DRIVE.
UM, WHERE, WHERE THE, THE CORNER LOTS TYPICALLY HAVE THEIR FRONT ON THE LONGER SIDE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS TYPICAL IN THE CITY.
TYPICALLY THE NARROW SIDE IS THE FRONT OF THE HOME.
UM, THE, UM, APPLICATION, UH, IS PROPOSING FOR A HOME, UM, THAT IS OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE, UM, HAS, UM, UM, INTERESTING MATERIALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING USED.
UM, THEY ARE SEEKING SOME WAIVERS AS A RESULT OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOME.
UM, SO GIVEN THAT THE FUNCTIONAL FRONT YARD OF THE HOME IS A SIDE FACING A STREET, UM, AND THIS, UH, THE HOME HAS A LENGTH THAT IS GREATER THAN 60 FEET, THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER
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OF THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT THAT IS REQUIRED FOR, UH, HOMES THAT EXCEED 60 FEET STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THAT, UH, OF THAT WAIVER.GIVEN THAT THE FACADE OF THE HOME IS DESIGNED TO INCLUDE MOVEMENT, UM, AND ARTICULATION THAT THAT PROVIDES VISUAL INTEREST, THAT IS THE INTENT OF THAT, UH, OF THAT CODE SECTION.
THEY'RE SEEKING THE SAME WAIVER ON BOTH THE REAR OF THE HOME, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A SIDE INTERIOR YARD.
SO THIS, THIS HOME, BECAUSE OF THE ORIENTATION DOES HAVE, UM, SOME ODDITIES, UM, WHICH LEAD TO THE VARIANCES THAT I'LL DESCRIBE.
UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THE WAIVERS.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN OF THE HOME.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT WILL, WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT DESIGN.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING FOUR WAIVERS.
UM, THE FIRST WAIVER, I'M SORRY, FOUR VARIANCES.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS FOR A SPIRAL STAIRCASE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK OF 20 FEET, UH, BY THREE FEET, SIX INCHES IN ORDER TO ALLOW A SPIRAL STAIRCASE THAT IS 16 FEET SIX INCHES FROM THE REAR YARD.
UM, THE REAR YARD IS FUNCTIONALLY A SIDE YARD.
UM, SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE, THE MAIN LOCATION WHERE THAT SPIRAL STAIRCASE CAN BE LOCATED.
THAT SPIRAL STAIRCASE IS TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO GET TO THE ROOF DECK.
UM, STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THIS, OF THIS, UH, VARIANCE BECAUSE IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL SITE INTERIOR YARD, IT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH THE REQUIRED SETBACK.
UM, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS A TERRACE AND PLANTER VARIANCE.
THE APPLICANT, UM, IS REQUESTING A, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR AN ENTRY PLANTER AND STEP TO EXCEED THE REQUIRED SETBACK BY THREE INCHES FOR A TERRACE AND ONE FOOT THREE INCHES FOR A PLANTER TO ALLOW FOR A GREATER PROJECTION THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED.
UM, STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PARTICULAR VARIANCE GIVEN THAT THAT, UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT IF IT WERE JUST REMOVED, REDUCED BY THREE INCHES, UH, FOR THE WALKWAY AND THE FOOT SIX INCH, A FOOT THREE INCHES FOR THE PLANTER, IT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS WALKWAY WOULD NOT SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER THE DESIGN OR THE FUNCTION FUNCTIONING OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF THERE BEING A HARDSHIP OR A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE VARIANCE THAT STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF.
THE REST OF THE VARIANCES WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF.
THE NEXT VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE FOR STAIRS AND WALKWAYS.
UM, THIS IS TO, UM, ALLOW, UH, STAIRS AND WALKWAYS IN THE FRONT YARD TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM WIDTH OF 44 INCHES.
UH, GIVEN THAT THE FRONT OF THE HOME IS ON A SIDE FACING A STREET, THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT FRONTAGE, UM, LEAD TO THE NEED FOR A GREATER WIDTH OF A WALKWAY.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD, IT WOULD, UM, UM, ARCHITECTURALLY CREATE SOME, UH, A DISPROPORTIONATE DISPROPORTIONATELY NARROW WALKWAY GIVEN THE WIDTH OF THAT FRONTAGE.
UM, SO THAT DOES CREATE A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SO THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOME THAT IS PREDOMINANT IN THIS AREA DOES LEAD FOR THE NEED FOR, DOES LEAD TO THE NEED FOR A GREATER WIDTH FOR THAT WALKWAY AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT VARIANCE.
THE NEXT VARIANCE IS FOR THE PURVIS PERVIOUS AREA.
UM, THIS IS IN THE REAR YARD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING AS A SIDE YARD.
IT'S IN THE SAME AREA WHERE THAT, UH, CIRCULAR STAIRCASE IS LOCATED.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR YARD PERVIOUS OPEN SPACE OF 70% TO 53.4% BECAUSE IT'S FUNCTIONING AS A SIDE YARD.
THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY LOCATION WHERE THE APPLICANT CAN LOCATE THEIR DRIVEWAY AND THEIR PARKING.
UM, SO STAFF, UM, IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE IT DOES ALLOW, ALLOW THEM TO PUT THE PARKING IN WHAT IS A FUNCTIONAL SIDE YARD.
IF THIS WERE ACTUALLY A SIDE YARD, THEY WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT SINCE IT IS TECHNICALLY THEIR REAR YARD, UM, THEY DO REQUIRE THAT VARIANCE AND STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THE GRANTING OF THAT VARIANCE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, INCLUDING VARIANCES NUMBER ONE, THREE, AND FOUR.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT VARIANCE NUMBER TWO BE DENIED.
UM, AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER, ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS APPLICATION? UH, AND SIR, CAN I PLEASE SWEAR YOU IN? NO, I, I'M SWORN IN.
UH, I AM, UH, FOUNDING PARTNER AT CHO F LEVY, FISHMAN ARCHITECTS IN, UH, WYNWOOD IN MIAMI.
AND HERE WE HAVE A TWO STORY RESIDENCE THAT'S LOCATED ON A CORNER LOT ON MIAMI BEACH AT SAN MARINO.
IT'S AN INTERIOR LOT, BUT IT'S A CORNER LOT.
AND BECAUSE OF ITS CORNER DESIGNATION OR ITS CORNER LOCATION, IT MAKES THE SETBACKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SHOW THE, UM, WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE.
THE HOUSE IS, UM, GONNA BE A CO UH, COMBINATION OF, UH, NATURAL CONCRETE LIMESTONE.
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UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE A MATERIAL THAT'S A SCREENING THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FRONT.AND THE SCREENING, UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T STRETCH HERE, BUT WHEN STRETCHED, IT OPENS UP ALL THE WAY.
AND THAT'S THE SCREENING YOU'LL SEE IN THE FRONT OVER THERE.
AND WE WANTED TO USE THIS IN LIEU OF THE VERTICALS THAT YOU SEE TO MAKE THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT MORE DESIGNED, UH, FRIENDLY.
UH, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF MOVEMENT ON IN THE HOUSE, BOTH, UH, IN, IN ALL ELEVATIONS, ESPECIALLY FACING THE, UM, UH, THE WEST, I'M SORRY, THE EAST, WHICH IS, UM, THE, THE SIDE STREET OF THE HOUSE.
SO I'LL GO OVER THE VARIANCES WITH YOU AND WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THEM.
THE FIRST VARIANCE, LET'S GO TO THE, THE, UH, SHEET, UH, A OH EIGHT OH, OKAY.
AND, UH, THE FIRST VARIANCE YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE A SPIRAL STAIRCASE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE.
THAT SPIRAL STAIRCASE IS A MINIMAL SPIRAL STAIRCASE, AND IT GOES TO THE ROOF.
THERE IS NO ROOF USE, THERE IS NO ROOF LOUNGE, BUT WE DO HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.
SO THE REASON FOR THAT, IN THAT LOCATION, FIRST OF ALL, IT REALLY WON'T BE SEEN BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION THAT IT'S AT.
AND ALSO, UH, IT, UH, WE CAN ACCESS ALL THE AIR CONDITIONING AND GENERATOR EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THE ROOF, AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
THE SECOND, UH, REQUEST WE HAVE, UH, IS THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY THE REAR SETBACK BECAUSE OF THE ORIENTATION AND LOCATION OF THE LOT ON A CORNER PROPERTY.
UH, TO PUT A POOL, THERE IS A VERY AWKWARD LOCATION AS IT'S GONNA RECEIVE MINIMAL SUNLIGHT.
AND TO PUT IT ON THE CORNER, IT RECEIVES MAXIMUM SUNLIGHT.
AND AS WELL, BECAUSE OF THE CODE, WE HAVE TO SET BACK THE POOL THE SAME AS WE SET BACK A, A BUILDING OR A STRUCTURE, WHICH IS 20 FEET FROM THAT SIDE.
SO THE ENTIRE WHAT IS TECHNICALLY THE FRONT, BUT IT'S THE SIDE STREET, IS NOW GOING TO BE FULLY LANDSCAPED 100%.
AND THEN OF COURSE, MOST OF THE, UH, OF THE SIDE STREET, THE ACTUAL LONG PORTION OF THE LOT IS GOING TO BE, UH, LANDSCAPED AS WELL.
THE OTHER, UH, SO THAT'S, UH, THE VARIANCE IS WE HAVE TO HAVE 70% PERVIOUS IN THE REAR.
AND OF COURSE, IF WE PUT A DRIVEWAY THERE TO, TO FIT A CAR OR TWO, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA ACHIEVE THAT.
BUT WHAT WE WILL DO IS PUT GRASS PAVERS SO THE GRASS GROWS THROUGH THEM, AND IT LOOK LIKE A GRASSED IN YARD.
UNFORTUNATELY, GRASS PAVERS ARE NOT CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS, UH, OR, OR IMPERVIOUS I SHOULD SAY.
SO, UH, WE HAVE TO COUNT THAT TOWARDS, UH, THE 70%.
ANOTHER VARIANCE WE HAVE ARE THE FRONT STEPS.
UH, COULD YOU, COULD YOU PUT THE, UM, ELEVATION, UH, THAT SHOWS THE FRONT STEPS AS WE HAVE THEM, AND THEN WE'LL SHOW THEM WHAT, WHAT CAN BE BUILT? LOTS OF DRAWINGS.
UH, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THEY ENCROACH A LITTLE BIT INTO THE, UH, SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED, WHICH IS 15 FEET FOR THE SIDE STREET.
THIS IS WHAT WE CAN BUILD ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
AS YOU COULD SEE, WHAT WE HAVE IS REALLY, WILL HAVE NO IMPACT AT ALL ON ANY NEIGHBORS OR, OR THE SITE, BUT IT WILL HAVE A BIT MAJOR IMPACT ON THE AESTHETICS OF THE HOUSE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT ONE.
SO WE, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE REAR YARD, SPIRAL, STAIR, THE VARIANCE FOR THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF OKAY.
UM, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF VARIANCE NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE WALKWAY AND STAIRS.
UH, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE VARIANCE, UH, TO WAIVE 70% MINIMUM REAR SETBACK.
SO THE, THE NEXT VARIANCE WE'RE ASKING FOR, OR OR WAIVER, THIS IS A WAIVER IS IN THE SIDE STREET.
SO THE SIDE STREET, UH, SETBACK, UH, 50% OF IT MUST BE SETBACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET OR 20 FEET, UH, FROM THE, THE SIDE SETBACK.
IT'S, UM, TWO, WHICH SHE HASN'T
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TALKED ABOUT.HOW WE'VE DONE THAT IS WE HAVE SET BACK THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET AND THE ACTUAL RESIDENCE, BUT WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
AND, AND IF YOU COULD PUT THE, UH, THE, THE FRONT RENDERING ON AGAIN, UM, WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE, THIS SCREENING.
AND SO TECHNICALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING THE SCREENING ON, WE DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET, ALTHOUGH THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE IS SET BACK, THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET, IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE SCREENING OFF, WE COMPLY.
BUT I THINK THIS IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DESIGN, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS, AND IT'LL MAKE THE HOUSE A LOT MORE INTERESTING.
UH, THE NEXT, UH, ONE WE WANT TO WAIVE, LET'S GO INTO THE, WHAT IS TECHNICALLY THE REAR ELEVATION? THAT ONE.
SO THIS ELEVATION IS, UH, LIMESTONE, NATURAL CONCRETE.
UH, WE HAVE THE BRONZE ALUMINUM WINDOWS, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE WHERE WE BREAK UP THAT THE 60 FEET OR WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 60 FEET.
AND WE BREAK IT UP WITH AN AREA OF A REFLECTING POND THAT HAS, UH, SLIDING GLASS DOORS ON TWO SIDES THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL OPEN UP INTO.
AND THERE'S A, A, UH, CASCADING WATER WALL RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LIVING ROOM THERE.
SO IT, IT, IT'S A WHOLE SCENE.
NOW, THIS FACES THE NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, IN ORDER TO COMPLY, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE, UH, REFLECTING POND OUT AND PUT IT ON THE GROUND, WHICH TAKES AWAY, UM, THE ENTIRE EFFECT OF WHAT WE WANT THERE.
AND THE WATER COMING INTO THE RESIDENCE ITSELF.
WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? ALIA? OH, OKAY.
UM, ANYWAY, SO, UH, THAT'S, IT'S A TECHNICALITY.
THE, IT IS WIDE OPEN, IT'S GLASS.
THE NEIGHBORS HAVE A, HAVE A PRETTY GOOD VIEW TO LOOK AT.
WHERE AS RE REGARDS THIS HOUSE, UM, UH, ARE THE, DID I, HAVE I GONE THROUGH ALL OF THEM? ALIA, YOU, YOU MISSED THE VARIANCE NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF.
OKAY, LET'S GO, LET'S GO TO THE FRONT ELEVATION AGAIN.
SO IS THERE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE FRONT FROM THE SIDE? YEAH, RIGHT, THAT, HOLD ON.
SO THAT PLANTER, UH, EXCEEDS, UH, THAT 15 FOOT SETBACK BY ONE FOOT SIX INCHES, AND THE WALKWAY EXCEEDS THE FRONT SETBACK BY THREE INCHES.
UM, I CAN MOVE BACK THREE INCHES.
AS FAR AS THE PLANTER, I, I WANNA CREATE SOME DIMENSIONALITY.
IF I MOVE BACK TO WALK THREE INCHES, SO I MOVE BACK THE, UH, THE PLANTER THREE INCHES.
SO IT'S ONE FOOT THREE INCHES INSTEAD OF ONE FOOT SIX INCHES.
UM, AND I CAN, UM, I JUST WANT IT TO HAVE THAT PLANT, THAT PLANTER IS GONNA BE PRETTY VISIBLE IN THAT FRONT, UH, ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE THAT PEOPLE SEE.
AND I DID NOT WANT IT ON THE SAME PLANE AS THE, UM, AS THE ACTUAL WALKWAY, WHICH IS A CHANGE OF MATERIAL AS WELL.
AND IT'S ALSO, UM, IT'S ALSO CANTILEVERED ON, UH, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY TOUCH THE GROUND.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WE HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT AT, AT THAT POINT, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORS, BUT AESTHETICALLY IT MAKES THE HOUSE LOOK BETTER.
ANYBODY ONLINE? ANYBODY ONLINE? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SORT OF, UH, MODIFY SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO FOR MODIFICATIONS IF WE CAN.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE STAIRS THAT YOU'RE MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, WIDER AT THE ENTRANCE TO WALK INTO THE FRONT DOOR VERSUS WHAT IS ALLOWED, WHY IS THAT NOT ALLOWED? LIKE WHY, WHY DO WE NEED A VARIANCE FOR THOSE STAIRS? THE, THE CODE SAYS THAT WHEN, UM, WHEN WALKWAYS AND, AND RELATED STAIRS ARE GOING INTO A SETBACK, THE MAXIMUM WIDTH IS 44 INCHES.
UM, UNLESS YOU NEED A WIDER WALKWAY FOR A DA PURPOSES,
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BECAUSE THERE'S STAIRS, THIS IS NOT A, THIS CAN'T BE CONSIDERED AN A DA WALKWAY, UM, THAT IS INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT SETBACKS ARE NOT IN OVERLY PAVED, UH, MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT IN THOSE SETBACK AREAS.UM, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS A VARIANCE THAT SOMETIMES A LOT OF OFTEN DOES COME TO THE BOARD BECAUSE IN, IN MANY CASES, ON LARGER LOTS OR ON WIDER FRONTAGES, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A WIDER STAIRWAY.
SO HOW CAN WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAYBE MODIFY SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND MAKE THEM MORE UPDATED? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S AN OBVIOUS MM-HMM
UH, THE DESIGN, THIS HOUSE IS, THE REASON THIS ONE IS, IS IT'S FLIPPED BECAUSE IT'S FRONT YARD IS FACING THE SIDE YARD.
SO THE CODE IS FIRST WRITTEN FOR SIDE YARDS ANSWER IMPORTANT MM-HMM
CODE'S WRITTEN FOR A SIDE YARD.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BIG STA IT'S LIKE ON THE NARROW SIDE YARD OF A HOUSE BETWEEN, SO THIS IS A SIDE YARD, BUT VARIANCE.
BUT IN THEIR ACTUALITY, THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR.
SO IT'S THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IN THIS CASE.
QUESTION, UH, FOR YOU, UH, THE FRONT DOOR, ANY REASON WHY YOU MADE IT A SINGLE VERSUS A DOUBLE, KIND OF LIKE A WIDER ENTRANCE OR HOW WIDE IS THAT? FRONT DOOR? FRONT DOOR IS SIX FEET WIDE.
AND THEN IT WALKS INTO THE GYM.
UH,
UH, WE DESIGNED IT AS A LIVING ROOM AND THE GYM IN THE BACK, THE OWNER WANTS THE GYM TO BE IN THE FRONT AND THE LIVING ROOM TO BE IN THE REAR.
SO IT HAS NOT ONLY THE VIEW OF THE POOL, BUT IT HAS THE VIEW OF THE REFLECTING POND AND THE CASCADING WATER FEATURE.
THIS IS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR OWNER ALSO HAS ANOTHER HOUSE ON MIAMI BEACH, AND HE LIVES PRO PREDOMINANTLY IN THAT OTHER HOUSE.
THIS HOUSE IS GONNA BE USED FOR HIS FAMILY AND HIS GUESTS, AND HE WANTS A GYM, WHICH HE DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AT HIS HOUSE.
SO HE'S GONNA COME HERE TO USE IT.
IT SEEMS ODD THAT IT'S NOT FLIPPED THE GYM ON THE BACK BACK, HE WAS IN THE DINING.
IT WAS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS, WAS, AND HE HAD EIGHT, TWO IT HIS OWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER WANTS, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW HE LIVES.
IT'S, UH, SO EVERYBODY WALKS INTO THE GYM? YEAH, WELL, THE GYM'S TO THE LEFT, YOU ACTUALLY WALK INTO A, UH, ANOTHER AREA, I THINK.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHEN YOU WALK, YOU HAVE THE STAIRS, YOU WALK THE KITCHEN TO THE, TO THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A PANTRY OR CLOSET.
SO YOU WALK INTO THE GYM IN THIS HOUSE? YEAH.
AND ANDREAS AND I HAVE THE SAME FEELING, BUT I ALWAYS SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S INSIDE.
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, WAY OF LIVING.
BUT IT'S JUST WEIRD THAT YOU WALK IN AND, AND, AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS GYM.
SO, SO YOU'LL KNOW, UH, FIRST OF ALL, HE'S GONNA HAVE THE BEST EQUIPMENT 'CAUSE THIS IS FOR HIM.
UM, ALL THE SLIDERS OPEN ON TWO SIDES.
SO NOT ONLY DO THEY OPEN TO THE FRONT, THEY OPEN TO THE, TO THE, TO THE SIDE, AND THEY OPEN TO THE POOL AND THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS THE WALKWAY.
AND THAT MEANS THAT WHEN HE'S WORKING OUT, HE'S GONNA FEEL LIKE HE'S WORKING OUT OUTSIDE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HE LIKES.
SO, SO HEY, EVERYBODY WALK INTO THE HOUSE AND COME RIGHT INTO THE GYM.
ON THE, ON THE PLANTERS THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN THE FRONT, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING ARE YOU PUTTING IN? HOW HIGH IS THAT LANDSCAPING GONNA BE GOING? OH, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE HIGH.
THAT'S, UH, UH, IT MAYBE AT ITS TALLEST 0.2, TWO AND A HALF FEET ABOVE THE PLANTER.
AND THE REST, UH, ARE WALL VINES.
MY ONLY, UM, CONCERN WITH THOSE PLANTERS STAFF THAT YOU WERE MAKING IT A COMMENT TO MAKE A FEW INCHES FURTHER BACK, IS THAT SOMETIMES IF THOSE PLANTERS ARE GONNA HAVE LARGER SHRUBS AND THEN THEY SORT OF LIKE GROW OUT AND THEN THEY KIND OF LIKE ENCROACH INTO THE SIDEWALK AREA.
YEAH, NO, UH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SEE IN THE RENDERING THAT WE WE'RE KEEPING EVERYTHING, UM, THERE, THERE'RE HANGING VINES AND JUST A LITTLE SHRUBBERY COMING UP TO TWO AND A HALF FEET GOT, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S STILL SET BACK 13 FEET, NINE INCHES FROM THE SIDE, UH, SIDEWALK.
OH, IT'S SET BACK 13 FEET, NINE INCHES FROM THE SIDEWALK.
AND IT'S ALL THAT, THAT WHOLE SIDE IS LANDSCAPED ANYWAY AS WELL.
RALPH, CAN YOU HOLD UP THE MESH AGAIN? 'CAUSE THAT I THINK IS UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THE PROBLEM IS, I CAN'T STRETCH IT AS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE STRETCHED.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS MECHANICALLY STRETCHED.
WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD YOU GIVE IT? WHAT PERCENTAGE OPENNESS WOULD YOU CLASSIFY IT AS? I WOULD SAY THIS IS ABOUT 60, 65% OPEN, AND THE REST IS, IS CLOSED.
AND THOSE WILL BE FIXED PANELS UPSTAIRS.
AND THAT'S ALUMINUM OR STAINLESS? YEAH, THIS IS, UH, YEAH, GALVANIZED ALUMINUM.
HAVE YOU USED SUPPORT? I, I HAVE NOT.
BUT WE, WE HAVE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE FRIENDS OF OURS IN SOUTH AFRICA, AND THEY'VE USED IT EXTENSIVELY IN SOME OF THEIR HOMES.
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IT'S GONNA BE, I MEAN, IT'S FABULOUS, BUT I JUST WANT TO HOLD UP AND NOT LIKE YEAH, I'M, I JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT TIRED OF THE VERTICAL THING GOING ON, AND I THINK THE SCREENINGS HAPPENED TO COME RIGHT AFTER THAT.THAT'S WHY JUAN'S UH, BUILDING WITH THAT MESH AND THAT PATTERN IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE IT, IT, UH, TELL, YEAH, HE'S, HE'S A VERY GOOD ARCHITECT.
I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL THE WAY THAT'S DONE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S BACKLIT CORRECTLY.
UM, WHICH THIS WILL BE BACKLIT.
SO THIS, ARE YOU GONNA DO GRAZERS OR SOMETHING HERE? NO.
UH, AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING, YEAH, NO, THEY, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE, UH, PIN SPOTS BEHIND IT.
PLUS THE LIGHTING ALSO FROM THE INTERIOR WILL TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THAT.
SO, UM, AND JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU SAID THAT, UH, ALONG THE SIDE YARD, THE, THE 50, THE 50% THAT YOU'RE EXCEEDING WAS BECAUSE OF THE MESH, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE BATHTUB IN THE CLOSET WALL, RIGHT? NOT, NOT THE MESH ISN'T DRIVING YOU OVER.
IT'S THOSE TWO BUMP OUTS, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH.
THE, THE, NO, THE, THE, THE MESH IS WHAT'S DRIVING ME OVER.
UM, WE, I, IF YOU TOOK OUT THE MESH, OVER 50% OF THAT ELEVATION IS SET BACK, THAT ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE SET BACK.
BUT THE MESH, TECHNICALLY, BECAUSE IT'S PUT WHERE THE RAIL WOULD NORMALLY BE IN THE FRONT, UM, TAKES THAT OUT OF PLAY.
AM I, AM I READING WAIVER FIVE WRONG? DOES THE MESH COUNT? I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR DIAGRAM WITH THE HATCHED, THE HATCHED AREA ON, UH, A 0 9 1.
YEAH, SO THE, THE BATHROOM, THAT BATHROOM THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, AND BY THE WAY, I LIKE, I LIKE THE UNDULATION IN THE FACADE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW MESH IS CONSIDERED.
YEAH, THE, THE 15 FEET IS ACTUALLY TO THE, TO THE, UH, UH, BATHROOM WALL THAT YOU SEE THERE.
AND IF SO, SO THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL, UH, SETBACK THAT I NEED THERE IS 15 FEET.
AND SO THAT BATHROOM IS THE 15 FEET, EVERYTHING ELSE SITS BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET.
SO I'M REALLY O I'M REALLY OVER THE REQUIRED SETBACK THAT I'M REQUIRED ON THAT SIDE IF THE MESH WAS OUT.
BUT SINCE THE MESH IS IN TECHNICALLY READS, I HAVE TO TECHNICALLY, UH, MAKE THE MESH THE 15 FEET AND THE ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT THAT I'M REQUIRED THERE ISN'T MET.
IF IT WERE A BALCONY, WE, WE LIKELY WOULDN'T HAVE REQUIRED THE WAIVER.
BUT BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS GOES, UM, THE WHOLE HEIGHT OF THAT ELEVATION, WE, WE DO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE TWO STORY VOLUME.
UM, SO THEREFORE THEY WOULD REQUIRE THIS WAIVER, BUT IT IS A WAIVER, NOT A VARIANCE.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST SUBJECT TO THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF OPENING.
LIKE I KNOW THE CODE DOESN'T STATE IF IT'S 50% OPEN.
IT DOESN'T COUNT, IS IT, IT'S IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REGULATION IN THAT REGARD.
SO IT'S KIND OF AN INTERPRETATION.
AND SO SINCE IT IS ALL THE, THE ENTIRE ELEVATION OF THAT FACADE, WE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS, UM, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SET BACK FIVE FEET IN ORDER TO AVOID HAVING THE WAIVER.
I LIKE, LIKE THE SIMPLE CLEAN PALETTE AND, AND THE NEW MATERIAL YOU'RE INTRODUCING FROM CHANGING THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO NOT YOUR AVERAGE SCREENING.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT, UH, IT'S LIKE YOUR AVERAGE SCREEN THAT YOU PUT UP AND NOT NOTHING THAT PEOPLE SEE ALL THE TIME.
SO IT'S, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INTERESTING DESIGN FEATURE.
SO, AND IT'S AN EXPOSED LOT, SO I THINK THEY NEED THE PRIVACY UP THERE IN THAT.
AND I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE SCREEN DESIGN 'CAUSE A FRIEND OF MINE USED IT IN SOUTH AFRICA, BUT YOU, YOU PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACES.
HE PUT IT IN THE EXACT SAME, NOT HE, IT'S THE THING, THEY PUT IT IN THE, UH, SAME PLACE AS I DID.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL ECHO THE, THE HOME IS GORGEOUS.
UM, THE MATERIAL USE IS, YOU KNOW, NOVEL.
UM, ONE THING I'M STRUGGLING WITH, AND I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, HOLD UP APPROVAL ON IT, BUT THIS, THIS STAIRCASE TO ME IS A VERY BIG GESTURE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY FOR ROOF ACCESS,
UM, I DON'T KNOW, ADAM, HOW DOES THIS TYP, IS THERE, THERE TYPICALLY STAIRS INSIDE THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING? IS THAT HOW YOU TYPICALLY ACCESS MECHANICAL? YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT ALLOWED
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STAIRS TO THE ROOF INSIDE THE HOUSE BECAUSE ALTHOUGH ELEVATOR TOWERS ARE ALLOWED ON THE ROOF, UH, UH, TO GO TO THE ROOF, STAIR TOWERS ARE NOT.SO ANY STAIR THAT YOU HAVE HAS TO BE AN EXTERIOR STAIR.
NOW, UM, IF YOU DON'T WANT A WAIVER, OF COURSE YOU PUT IT WITHIN THE SETBACK AND THEN YOU DON'T NEED THAT.
YOU DON'T NEED A WAIVER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SITE, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON THIS ELEVATION THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET A A, A VARIANCE ON THAT.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T, I GUESS I DON'T OBJECT TO THE, LIKE, THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED HERE.
IT'S, IT'S MORE JUST THE DESIGN OF THE STAIRWAY JUST SEEMS LIKE, UH, YEAH, LIKE, IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS LIKE LIGHT AND REFRESHING AS THE REST OF THE HOUSE, IN MY OPINION.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, IT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I, I DON'T FEEL SUPER STRONGLY OKAY THAT, BUT IT, IT SEEMS ALMOST ATTRACTING FROM THE BEAUTY OF THE HOME.
SO, UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THE STAIR, UH, AND IT, IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE RAILING LIKE PICKETS OR ANYTHING.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE DONE A SOLID BRONZE ALUMINUM TO GO WITH ALL THE REST OF THE ALUMINUM OF THE HOUSE AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE A SCULPTURE.
SO FOR US, IT'S A SCULPTURE PIECE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND THAT'S WHY, UH, WE DESIGNED IT THAT WAY.
AND, AND I GUESS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT, THIS PLANTER VARIANCE, I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH IT.
I'M KIND OF LEANING WITH STAFF ONLY BECAUSE IT'S A VARIANCE.
UM, IF, IF, MAYBE, I MEAN, I, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE THE HARDSHIP OTHER THAN I AGREE IT LOOKS VERY GOOD THE WAY YOU'VE DESIGNED IT, BUT IT'S, THERE IS NO HARDSHIP.
I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT WITH YOU.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO HARDSHIP HERE.
MAYBE IT WAS ONLY, IT'S ONLY BEING DONE FOR AESTHETIC REASONS.
SO MY ONLY CONCERN IS PRECEDENT.
RIGHT? I THINK IT LOOKS, I THINK IT LOOKS GORGEOUS THE WAY YOU'VE DESIGNED IT.
UM, I JUST DON'T WANNA ACCEPT THE VARIANCE HERE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SO, UH, JUST TO, THAT'S JUST MY TO CLARIFY POINT ON THAT.
BOARD ORDERS ARE DON'T HAVE PRESIDENTIAL VALUE, SO, OKAY.
IT'S, IT'S, PEOPLE ARE GONNA STILL COME
UM, I MEAN, BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS I GUESS WE COULD KIND OF GET A DIFFERENTIAL IN, IN, UH, RELIEF OR CHANGE IN, MAYBE WE GO IN OR SOMETHING, OR WE PUT LIKE A VERTICAL TREE OR SOMETHING.
UM, I, THAT'S, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE OTHER ONES.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, IS THIS A, IS THIS A HARDSHIP? I DON'T KNOW.
SO, BUT JUST I DON'T THINK FOR THE BOARD TO, TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, CHAIR, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE NOT USING THE ROOF? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO USE THE ROOF AS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE? SO YOU ARE CHOOSING NOT TO USE THE ROOF, YOU'RE CHOOSING NOT TO USE THE ROOF AS A ROOFTOP USE? UH, THERE'S, FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE SETBACKS, IT WOULD BE A VERY NARROW ROOF USE.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO SET BACK 10 FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE ON ALL SIDES.
SO IT WOULD MAKE, AND YOU CAN ONLY USE 25% OF THE ROOF.
SO IT WOULD MAKE IT, UH, ALMOST A NEGLIGIBLE ROOF DECK.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, UH, THE OWNER DOESN'T WANNA USE IT AS FOR ANYTHING.
HE SAYS PEOPLE THAT HAVE ROOF DECKS RARELY USE IT, SO HE DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO DO IT.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A RESTRICTION ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE AND WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE, THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE EQUIPMENT.
AND YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE 25% OF THE ROOF.
ONLY 25% OF THAT CAN BE, UH, CAN HAVE A ROOF DECK ABOVE IT.
AND OUTTA CURIOSITY, ARE THERE REALLY SEVEN AC UNITS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ON THE ROOF? YES, AND I'LL, THEY'RE VERY SMALL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, MAYBE THERE'S ONE AC CLOSET, BUT THE REST OF THE UNITS ARE INSIDE THE CEILING.
OH, HE LIKES, HE'S FROM EUROPE.
HE'S, HE LIVES IN FRANCE, UH, HALF THE YEAR, AND HE LIVES IN MIAMI, THE OTHER HALF.
AND HE WANTS EVERY AREA, ESPECIALLY BEDROOMS, UH, SEPARATELY.
BUT SO THEY'RE GONNA BE TINY MINI SPLIT UNITS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THESE BIG COMPRESSORS THAT YOU SEE, RIGHT, LIKE ON A HOTEL.
LIKE WHAT? IN THE HOTELS THAT THEY HAVE LOT.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT VARIANCE NUMBER TWO.
UM, IF ACTUALLY YOU SHOULD DO, UM, THE DESIGN AND THE WAIVERS SEPARATE FROM THE VARIANCES.
SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN IN BOTH WAIVERS IN MOTION.
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ANYONE SECOND? A SECOND.AND THEN I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCES ONE, THREE, AND FOUR.
UM, AND I GUESS DENY DO I EXPRESSLY DENY? OKAY.
AND WE'RE GIVING THIS TO LADY GAGA FOR HER NEXT SHOW AFTER WE FINISH USING
YEAH, WE HAVE SHOW, SEE WE HAVE TWO MORE, TWO MORE.
IF, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, WE NEED THEM TO FLIP IT.
THAT'S SAYING THAT YOU COULD, YOU COULD JUST, JUST NICE TO JUST ROTATE IT THERE.
JUST ONE ROTATION BACK, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
[8. DRB25-1148 A.K.A. DRB20-0529, 727-741 77 ST, 7701-7737 TATUM WATERWAY DRIVE. 7710-7720 DICKENS AVENUE.]
THE NE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS D RRB 25 11 48 AKA DRB 2 0 5 2 9.AND THIS IS 7 27 7 41 70 SEVENTH STREET, 7 7 0 1 7 7 3 7 T WATER WAVE DRIVE AND 77 10 77 20 DEACON AVENUE.
THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MULTI-STORY ADDITION TO REPLACE AN EXISTING ONE, AN EXISTING ONE STORY BUILDING AND SURFACE PARKING, AND ALL OTHER ORDER EXTERIOR SITE DESIGN MODIFICATIONS.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS OF MATERIALS FOR EXTERIOR WALLS AND VARIANCES OF THE HEIGHT REGULATION EXCEPTIONS TO PROVIDE AN OUTDOOR WASH, COUNTER AND SINK AND A SINGLE ENCLOSED RESTROOM AT THE ROOF LEVEL.
OKAY, SO, UM, THIS IS AN APPLICATION, UM, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, BY THE BOARD.
UM, JUST FOR, FOR WAY OF BACKGROUND, UM, IN 2020, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THE NORTH BEACH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS DISTRICT OVERLAY, WHICH CREATED REGULATIONS FOR, UH, FOR SCHOOLS IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA.
SO THIS, UH, SCHOOL, THE LERMAN, UH, THE LURMAN SCHOOL TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THESE, UH, OF THESE REGULATIONS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ON JULY 7TH, 2020, THE DRB ORIGINALLY APPROVED, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS NEW MULTI-STORY ADDITION TO REPLACE AN EXISTING ONE STORY BUILDING, UM, AND SURFACE PARKING AND OTHER, OTHER DESIGN MODIFICATIONS INCLUDING THE DRIVEWAY ON THIS SITE.
UM, SO NOW THEY'RE IN, THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE BUILDING IS, UH, YOU, IF YOU GO BY THE SITE, THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BUT HOWEVER, THEY'RE, UM, AS, AS THE CONSTRUCTION IS PROCEEDING, THEY'RE SEEING SOME ISSUES AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME, UH, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO SOME OF THE MATERIALS.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL DISCUSS THOSE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE APPLICANT ON THE EAST FACADE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REVISE THE DESIGN OF THE, UH, HORIZONTAL BANDING AND THE STUCCO THAT'S ON THAT SIDE, UM, TO HAVE, UH, GREATER SPACING BETWEEN THE ROWS.
UM, THIS IS INTENDED TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL WATER INFILTRATION.
UM, THE, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, UM, HAD SOME JOINTS WHICH WOULD LEAD TO WHICH THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT, UH, DETERMINED WOULD LEAD TO, UM, WATER INFILTRATION ISSUES AND OVERALL MAINTENANCE.
MAINTENANCE INCREASES ISSUES WITH MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, TO REVISE THIS, UM, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TWO COLOR PATTERNS.
UM, UM, REGARDING THIS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE, UM, WHICH, UM,
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UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PALETTE CAN, UH, BE COMPOSED OF A LIGHTER GRAY TONE.SO IT'S TO NOT DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM THE MAIN EAST FACADE, WHICH, UM, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE MORE IMPORTANT, THE MORE WELL DESIGNED AND THE MORE PROMINENT FACADE.
UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS ALSO REQUESTING SOME VARIANCES.
UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, THE DRB INCLUDED A CONDITION, UH, REQUESTING THAT THE ARCHITECT EXPLORER A GREEN ROOF WITH GARDENS AND LANDSCAPING ATOP ON TOP OF THE NEW ADDITION.
UM, SO IN, IN OTHER WORDS, THE DRB WAS REQUESTING THAT THE, THAT THE ROOFTOP BE ACTIVATED.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT IN TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, THEY ARE, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CREATE SOME GARDENS AND SOME PLANTERS, UM, WHICH, WHICH WILL ACTIVATE AND, AND COMPLY WITH THAT REQUEST OF THE DRB.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THE STUDENTS HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE TO PROVIDE A BATHROOM AND SOME WASH COUNTERS.
UM, SO THAT IF STUDENTS ARE UP THERE WORKING ON THE EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO WASH UP AFTER THEY'RE DONE AND OR IF THERE'S ANY, ANY, ANY HAZARDS THEY CAN, THEY CAN WASH UP AND THEN THEY NEED TO HAVE A BATHROOM.
UM, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES.
UM, THE FIRST IS TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PROHIBITED BUILDING HEIGHT BY 36 INCHES, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THE OUTDOOR WASH COUNTER AND SINK ON THE ROOFTOP.
THOSE ARE NOT, UH, ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS IN THE CODE.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCES TO ALLOW THOSE.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS TO EXCEED, UH, THE MAXIMUM PERMITTING PERMITTED BUILDING HEIGHT BY 36 INCHES, UM, TO PROVIDE A, UH, RESTROOM WITHIN, UH, AN EXISTING ENCLOSED AREA THAT IS ALREADY, UH, THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
UM, IT'S WHERE THE, UH, STAIRWELL AND ELEVATOR CORE IS LOCATED.
THERE IS AN OPEN SPACE THERE THAT THEY ARE GONNA ENCLOSE AND CREATE A BATHROOM OUT OF THAT.
THE VARIANCE IS SO THAT THE TOILET AND THE SINK THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR A BATHROOM OR ARE ABLE TO FIT, UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALSO NOT ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS, UNLESS THEY ARE REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ONLY REQUIRED WHEN YOU HAVE A WATER FEATURE, SUCH AS A POOL OR A FOUNTAIN OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE TWO VARIANCES.
THE REQUEST OF THE DRB, UM, FOR ACTIVATING THAT ROOFTOP CREATES THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AND HARDSHIPS.
UM, AND SO THE, UM, IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THAT REQUEST, UM, THEY NEED THESE TWO VARIANCES AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCES.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES STILL?
UH, FOR THE RECORD, ALFREDO GONZALEZ WITH, UH, GREEN TRO AT 3 3 3 SOUTHEAST SECOND AVENUE WITH ME HERE TODAY IS MY COLLEAGUE, UH, DAVID BUTTER, AND I ALSO HAVE ERIC MEDINA, WHO IS A PROJECT MANAGER ON THE SITE.
UM, WE DID COME AND I, I THINK ROHE DID A GOOD JOB OF OVER THE OVERVIEW.
THE, THE SCHOOL EMBARKED ON A RE, YOU KNOW, ENHANCEMENT OF, OF THE PROPERTY BACK IN 2019, WHICH LED TO US HAVING TO HAVE THE, THE SCHOOL OVERLAY ADOPTED FIRST.
AND WE CAME TO THE, AND WE CAME, UM, TO THE DRB.
AND AS OUR APPLICATION WAS GONNA BE HEARD THE FOLLOWING MONTH, THE PANDEMIC STARTED.
SO WE WERE DELAYED TILL JULY, UM, AND ONE OF THE FIRST APPLICATIONS TO GET APPROVED UNDER THE NEW ZOOM PROCESS.
AT THAT TIME, UM, THE SCHOOL FROM THE GET GO WANTED TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE STUDENTS AND WASN'T ASKING TO INCREASE THE, THE, THE CLASS SIZE, THE, THE STUDENT SIZE, WHICH IS 548.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WANTED TO CREATE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS.
WE GOT IT ALL ADOPTED BACK IN 2020, AND THE SCHOOL WENT ON BECAUSE IT'S AN OPERATING SCHOOL, PRE-K TO FIFTH GRADE, TO PHASE THE PROJECT, THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WERE DONE FIRST, WHICH WAS THE BIGGEST BENEFIT THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY SAW WAS THAT BEFORE THIS, UH, THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, THE DROP OFF IN PICKUP WAS ON 77TH STREET ACROSS FROM BISKIN ELEMENTARY DROP OFF IN PICKUP.
BY MOVING IT ALL ON SITE, WE REDUCED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THE SCHOOL BY 70%.
THE CITY ALLOWED US TO GO IN PHASES.
WE'RE NOW GOING TO THE LAST PART OF THE, UH, THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE GYMNASIUM, CAFETERIA, AND THE, UH, EN ENHANCED CLASSROOM SPACES THAT ALLOW FOR THE ARTS, MUSIC, AND SCIENCE.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO MODIFICATIONS ON THE FACADE.
ONE WAS THE, UM, OUR ENGINEERS AND, UH, SUB TECH, UH, ENGINEERS LOOKED AT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND IDENTIFIED ISSUES THAT WOULD CREATE POTENTIAL MAINTENANCE, RESILIENCY, AND WATER INTRUSION ISSUES FOR THE SCHOOL AFTER IT WAS BUILT.
SO BRINGS US HERE TODAY, UM, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF
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THE SLIDES.THAT'S THE OVERALL CAMPUS, THAT'S THE LOCATION.
THOSE TWO IN RED WERE THE PARKING LOT THAT ALREADY BELONGED TO LUMAN DAY SCHOOL AND THE BUILDING THEY BOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GONNA ADD FOR WHERE THE, THE NEW STRUCTURE IS SITTING TODAY.
YOU SEE THE CONSTRUCTION PRO, IT'S ALMOST DONE.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A TCO BY JUNE, JULY, SO THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR, THE STUDENTS COULD HAVE THE ENTIRE CAMPUS OPEN.
SO WE GET TO THE FACADE MODIFICATION.
IF YOU SEE THAT THE FACADE, WHICH IS CONSIDERED OUR FRONT, THAT FACES DICKENS, THE, THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE THE, THE ENGINEER IDENTIFIED THAT THE PATTERN WAS TOO TIGHT AND COULD REALLY CAUSE A LOT OF WATER INTRUSIONS AND MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
SO WE KIND OF WORKED WITH STAFF TO CREATE MORE OF A SEPARATED SCORING PATTERN, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, THE BOARD TO APPROVE AS OUR, ONE OF OUR MODIFICATIONS.
AND THEN WE KEEP GOING TO MAKE IT QUICK, KEEP GOING.
THEN WE GET TO THE NORTH FAC SIDE.
THE NORTH US IS THE SIDE INTERIOR.
IT FACES ANOTHER TWO, UH, TWO STORY BUILDING.
AND THERE AGAIN, THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE MATERIALS BEING USED AND AS MAINTENANCE OVER AND LONGEVITY THAT WE CAME UP WITH, UM, A STUCCO PATTERN AND THEN NEUTRAL COLORS TO CREATE A PAINTING PATTERN.
WE ALL, WE PROVIDED OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE ONE YOU'RE SEEING, AND OPTION TWO, UM, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT OPTION ONE SHOULD BE THE DIRECTION WE TAKE AND THAT IDENTIFIES THE MODIFICATION.
I'M GONNA HAVE DAVID GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES NOW FOR YOU, UH, SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE TWO MINOR VARIANCES.
GOOD MORNING DAVID BUTTER OFFICES AT 3 3 3 SOUTHEAST SECOND AVENUE.
UH, THANKS FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR US THIS MORNING.
THE, AS, UH, MY COLLEAGUE STATED, UH, I'M GONNA HANDLE THE, THE ROOFTOP LEVEL VARIANCES PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE, TO START THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VARIANCES, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO 2020.
WHEN THE DRB ORIGINALLY APPROVED OUR DESIGN AS, UH, ROHELIO ELOQUENTLY WENT THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, THE DRB IMPOSED A CONDITION TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO, UM, ACTIVATE THE ROOFTOP WITH A GREEN SPACE.
SO THE APPLICANT WANTED TO ENSURE ALL OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUGGESTIONS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT.
SO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT CONDITION, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO PROVIDE AN EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING AREA ON THE ROOFTOP WHERE STUDENTS CAN QUITE LITERALLY GET THEIR HANDS DIRTY, LEARN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, PLANT LIFE, BIOLOGY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AND REALLY REALIZE THE FULL POTENTIAL OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THIS EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING AREA, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES RELATED TO AN OUTDOOR WASH COUNTER AND BATHROOM.
SO WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THESE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPLETELY SHIELDED FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.
THE VARIANCES ARE FOR THREE FEET STARTING, SO STARTING WITH THE WASH COUNTER, WHICH IS OVER HERE.
SO THE WASH COUNTER IS GONNA BE SHIELDED BY A 42 INCH PARAPET THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THAT RUNS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE, THE BUILDING'S FACADE.
SO NOT ONLY IS THE WASH COUNTER LOWERED, THE WASH COUNTER'S ALSO, UH, A BIT STEP BACK FROM THE PARA PITT WALL.
SO THERE'LL BE NO VISIBILITY FROM ANY VANTAGE POINT, UH, IN THE PUBLIC REALM.
MOVING OVER TO THE RESTROOM, GETTING MORE SPECIFIC WITH THE RESTROOM, AS ALFREDO MENTIONED, THE, THE VARIANCE IS SIMPLY TO ALLOW THESE PLUMBING FIXTURES, THE TOILET SEAT, THE SINK, AND THE FAUCET TO BE APPROVED WITHIN A ALREADY IMPROVED, UH, VESTIBULE.
OF COURSE, THIS WILL ALSO BE ENCLOSED AND BE INVISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC EYE.
BOTH OF THESE VARIANCES, THE, THE REAL INTENT STEMS FROM STUDENT SAFETY, STUDENT HYGIENE.
WITHOUT THESE PRACTICAL AND FUNCTIONAL AMENITIES OR IMPROVEMENTS, STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO GO UP AND DOWN, STAIRCASES, DIRTY HANDS, POTENTIALLY HAVE TO WASH THEIR GARDEN TOOLS IN A BA BATHROOM DOWNSTAIRS.
JUST REALLY UNREALISTIC AND IMPRACTICAL CREATES SAFETY ISSUES AND SPREADING BACTERIA AND OTHER MATTER INTO THE SANITARY SPOTS WITHIN THE, UH, CLASSROOM AREA DOWNSTAIRS.
WE'VE HAD A GREAT COLLABORATION WORKING EFFORT WITH STAFF.
THERE'S SUPPORT OF THE VARIANCES.
AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ANYBODY ONLINE? UH, ANYBODY ONLINE IF YOU'D LIKE TO
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SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.YOU CAN CLOSE AND OPEN UP TO THE BOARD.
UH, ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, A QUESTION CHAIR.
WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TERRACE OF THE ROOF AREA THAT'S BEING USED FOR TERRACE? OUT OF THE WHOLE ROOF SPACE, LIKE ABOUT 50, IT'S, IT'S WAY LESS THAN 50%.
HUH? WE DON'T, IT'S WAY LESS THAN 50%.
I, I, LISTEN, I AM, UM, I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR ELEVATING THE LEVEL OF QUALITY OF ENVIRONMENTS FOR OUR STUDENTS IN, IN MIAMI BEACH AND ANYWHERE.
AND, UM, THIS SCHOOL HAS A GREAT REPUTATION, IS DOING A GREAT JOB AT, AT, AT DOING JUST THAT.
AND I LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND EXPANDING AND, AND BRINGING MORE QUALITY EDUCATION TO OUR CITY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
I THINK THE PROJECT LOOKS GREAT.
I THINK SECONDLY HE SAID, UM, VARIANCE SEEMED EXTREMELY MINOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S EVEN
UM, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE CHOOSING A, A PAINT SCHEME FOR THAT ONE FACADE, OR IS THAT JUST A YES.
IT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS OPTION ONE.
WE SUPPORT OPTION ONE AS WELL.
SO IF THE BOARDS COME TO WALK IN WHATEVER MOTION, THAT'S THE BLOCKS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UM, SO, BUT WHATEVER YOU ALL PREFER, UM, AND I'M IN SUPPORT.
UM, THERE'S A VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT FOR THE BULKHEAD FOR OVER THE WASH SINKS.
IS THAT, IS THERE A HEIGHT VARIANCE THAT IT'S FOR THE COUNTER AND THE SINKS THEMSELVES? NOT, IT'S NOT FOR THE RIGHT ROOF.
UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS.
GENERALLY, THE, GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A COUNTER AND, UH, SINK THAT'S FOR A BAR OR ANOTHER TYPE OF USE THAT, THAT WE MAYBE DON'T WANNA SEE ON A ROOFTOP.
UM, THIS IS THE RARE EXAMPLE WHERE IT'S FOR A SCHOOL.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE HAVE NO, NO CONCERNS WITH THE VARIANCE HERE.
AND WAS THE VOID ALWAYS A VOID? IT WAS, YEAH.
IF YOU LOOKED IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS, IT WAS JUST A, A VOID THERE BETWEEN CONVENIENTLY EXACTLY THE SIZE OF A BATHROOM.
WAS A BATH IN A BATHROOM WASN'T PERMITTED IN THE, IN THE IS THIS IS WHY THEY'RE COMING TO US.
JUST I KEEP MY EYE OUT FOR THINGS THAT COME BACK TO US FOR LIKE, THERE'S AUTO, LIKE IT'S NOT AN ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOM THAT THEY'VE REMOVED OR ANYTHING.
IT WAS A, IT WAS PART OF THE VESTIBULE THAT WAS THERE FOR BETWEEN THE STAIRS AND THE ELEVATOR.
IF IT WASN'T A SCHOOL I'D, I'D QUESTION IT MORE
UM, AND, BUT I, I JUST ALWAYS WONDER WHY AN ORIGINAL DESIGN HAS A MM-HMM
AN EMPTY ROOM, PERFECTLY POSITIONED FOR A BATHROOM.
WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S PART OF THE VESTIBULE.
SO THEY, THEY BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE PART OF THE VESTIBULE TO CREATE THAT SPACE THAT, WITH THE VOLUME THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED WAS THE, WAS THE DOOR ON THE WALL THERE ORIGINALLY? UH, I THINK IT HAD A WALL.
IT JUST HAD A, IT WAS LISTED AS A VOID.
IT WAS NOT A, THE OLD PLAN SET, IT WAS A VOID.
WHEN THIS ORIGINAL WAS REVIEWED, THERE WAS AN OPTION TO HAVE THE, THE WHOLE STRUCTURE WITH THE STAIRWELL AND THE ELEVATOR A GAP, WHICH APPARENTLY IT WAS MORE ON SIGNING THE ARCHITECTS AND THE DB AT THE TIME THOUGHT JUST A SOLID PIECE THAN HAVING THESE GAP THAT WAS UNACCESSIBLE.
SO THROUGH THE YEARS, THE SPACE IS IN THE PART OF THE VESTIBULE AND, AND THEY KNOW IT'S JUST, IT, IT, IT'S CONVENIENT, BUT I'M ALL, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE BATHROOM.
AND ORIGINALLY, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, THE SCHOOL WASN'T ASKING TO ACTIVATE THE ROOF.
ACTUALLY, THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT ACTIVATING THE ROOF.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDED AND THE, UH, AND THEN WE ULTIMATELY AGREED ON LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD EXPLORE IT.
WE COULDN'T GUARANTEE AT THAT TIME THAT WE COULD ACTIVATE THE ROOF.
THE SCHOOL WENT BACK OVER THE YEARS AND, AND REALLY STUDIED THE, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THEY ACTIVATED IT.
HAD THEY NOT ACTIVATED THE ROOFTOP WITH THIS GARDEN, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY ASKING FOR THE SINKS OR CREATING A BATHROOM SPACE.
SO THE TEACHERS DON'T HAVE TO, IF THEY'RE IN THERE WITH THEIR CLASS SEPARATE.
I, YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO ACTIVATE IT.
IT'S, IT'S NICE THE, THE STUCCO.
I PERSONALLY DON'T LOVE THIS PATTERN.
I FEEL LIKE THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS CLEAN AND MATCHED ALL THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY HAVE THIS LIKE, ELEGANT, YOU KNOW, FRONT FACADE AND NOW, OR JUST STUCCO IT.
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A, WAS IT A MORE, WAS IT A COST THAT DRIVER TWO OR YOU, I KNOW YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ENGINEER, YOU MENTIONED WATER INFILTRATION, BUT, UM, I WOULD'VE, I DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS LIKE A PATTERN TO THE ORIGINAL MM-HMMTHE ORIGINAL, UM, MATERIAL THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REIMAGINED IN, IN THE STUCCO SCORES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
LIKE THIS, THIS ONE JUST BEING STUCCO.
I PERSONALLY WOULD'VE LIKE THAT.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, LIKE THIS WAS JUST STUCCO WITH THESE LINES.
UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A BUILDING WITH A, WITH ITS OWN, ITS OWN VIBE ON THE BACKSIDE.
AND IT DOESN'T, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT WITH ME.
AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, THESE GUYS TRIED TO SAVE MONEY.
JUST, JUST, AND, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
AND I, I KNOW THIS ARCHITECT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SKILLED.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY, MY OPINION.
I THINK WE COULD LEAVE THE STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE MM-HMM
AND THE BREAK LINES MAKE SENSE.
MAYBE IT'S THE, THE CHECKERBOARD THAT'S BOTHERED ME.
WE, WE, WE APPROVED THEIR BUILDING PERMIT USING A, THEY HAD A STUCCO, GRIDED STUCCO PATTERN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD APPROVED.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING BUT NOT AS, NOT AS, NOT AS BIG PIECES.
THEY WERE, THE LINES WERE MUCH CLOSER TOGETHER CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL, UH, DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
THAT WOULD BE MY, YEAH, I WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
BUT THE, APPARENTLY THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT, THAT THE, THE CLOSENESS OF THOSE SCORE LINES ALLOWS FOR GREATER POTENTIAL FOR WATER INFILTRATION THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADAMANT ABOUT LIGHTING ELEMENTS.
MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LIGHTING ELEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING THAT MAYBE WOULD ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING.
I MEAN, I LOOK AT THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS NICE TO ME.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE, IT'S WALL, BUT I DON'T, IS THERE A LIGHTING ELEMENT TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING? YEAH, THERE ARE LIGHTS ON THE FACADE.
SO THERE WILL BE LIGHTS FACING DICKENS? NO, I MEAN LIKE THE, THE, THE CHECKERED SIDE THAT WE, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S A SIDE INTERIOR THAT FACES THAT PART RIGHT THERE THAT COMES OUT ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
IS THAT A TERRACE ON THE TOP OR IS THAT JUST A ROOF? ROOF.
UH, IS THERE ANY LIGHTING ELEMENT THAT TO SORT OF ENHANCE WHAT THAT WALL LOOKS LIKE FACING EAST? SO THE LIGHTS DO GO UP, SO THERE'S LIGHTINGS ON THAT TERRACE.
SO IT WOULD, SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN DICKENS, YOU'LL BE, THE LIGHTS WILL FOCUS YOU TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, WE, I DON'T THINK, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH LIGHTS THAT WE PUT ONTO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SINCE THAT FACES THE BUILDING, OTHER, OTHER APARTMENT BUILDINGS TO THE, UH, NORTH.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING CHAIR.
I, I, I'M JUST, UH, I WAS JUST THINKING IN GENERAL THAT THE BUILDING IF LIT PROPERLY, UM, INDIRECTLY ON THE EAST SIDE, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE, BUT LOOKING AT THE BUILDING JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT THE A, A NICE LED LIGHTING ELEMENT TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WOULD ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT BEING OVERPOWERING, UH, ON THE, ON THE LIGHTING SIDE.
I MEAN, I LOOK AT THE BUILDING AND IT'S JUST NOT LEFT LIKE, OH MY GOD.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE A YOU, THE LIGHTING, THE LIGHTING IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE LIGHTING, I THINK THE LIGHTING WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO AESTHETICALLY HOW THE BUILDING POPS OUT AND LOOKS IN GENERAL WHEN SOMEBODY'S WALKING BY IT.
AND WHERE IS THE SIGNAGE GOING? ANYWHERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
NOW THE SIGNAGE WILL BE ON 77 WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS TODAY.
SO THERE'S NO SIGNING ON ANY OF THAT FACADE? NO, NO.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIRECT LED LIGHTING ON IF, IF IT'S WIRED FOR IT, IT WOULD BE AWESOME AND IT WOULD, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE, OH, COOL.
ANDREAS, WE, WE, FOR THE EAST FACADE, THERE IS LIGHTING ALREADY PART OF THE, THE ORIGINAL PERMIT.
SO THERE WILL BE LIGHTING THAT'LL BE LIT UP.
BUT THERE, THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SIGN OF THE SCHOOL.
'CAUSE SINCE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CONSIDERED OUR FRONT.
'CAUSE DICKENS IS MAIN STREET VERSUS 77 PRACTICAL.
THE REALITY IS 77TH STREET OR LURMAN AVENUE STREET, UH, IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE DROP OFF IS, WHERE THE ENTRANCE FOR THE, THE SCHOOL, UH, NAME IS, IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND IT CAN'T BE ON BOTH? THEY CAN OR YOU JUST DON'T WANT IT? IS THAT A QUESTION? IS STAFF, CAN THEY HAVE THE NAME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING OR, OR NO, THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, A SIGN ON EACH FRONTAGE AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST ELECTING THAT TO HAVE A SIGN ON THE EAST SIDE.
WE SPEND A LOT MORE TIME ON THE DESIGN WITH THE DIFFERENT PATTERNS.
AND, AND AT THE TIME THE SCHOOL DIDN'T LOOK AT PUTTING A, A SIGNAGE ON.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE, IT WORKED.
I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS ALSO THAT INTERESTING
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FORESIGHT NOW, UH, THAT LED TO THIS ENHANCEMENT FOR THE STUDENTS WAS ALSO SECURITY BASED.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THAT'S WHY THE DROP OFF WENT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE STREET.
WHY? THE, THE SITE HAS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
THAT WAS, WE HAD TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE OVERLAY TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SECURITY THAT THE SCHOOL NEEDED.
AND THEN THINK, UNFORTUNATELY IN TODAY'S AGE, I'M GLAD THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT THEY HAVE IT.
SO, UM, BUT ALL THE ACTIVITY FOR THE STUDENTS, THE DROP OFF THE PICKUP, RIGHT.
JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT EXISTING SCHOOL NOW THAT, THAT EAST WALL, WHICH NOW INCORPORATES AND LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE ENTIRE EAST FACADE.
KIND OF LIKE LENT ITSELF TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A SIGNAGE OF THE SCHOOL THERE, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM
LIKE, UH, YEAH, THIS WHOLE ENTIRE WALL HERE.
BUT I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK INTO TRYING TO PUT A, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THE SCHOOL WANTS TO PUT A SIGN AND EXPLORE IT.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU GUYS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UM, SO WE DO NEED TO, TO CHOOSE THE TWO MOTIONS AND ONE, THE, THE MODIFICATION OF THE PRIOR ORDER.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO PICK OPTION ONE OR TWO FOR THE, UM, FOR THE PAINTING.
YOU THEN YOU'D NEED FOR THE VARIANCES FOR THE ROOF, A SEPARATE MOTION.
UM, WELL, I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH OPTION ONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN, SECOND BY MR. LESTER.
MOTION PASSES AND I'LL MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCES MS. WALL.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE YOUR FIRST, SECOND.
UH, CONGRATULATIONS
UM, SO, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
HOPE NEXT MONTH YOU'LL HAVE THIS, YOUR NAME THERE.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE ALL DOING WITH THE SCHOOL.
[9. DRB25-1149, 415 WEST 41 STREET.]
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DRB 25 11 49 FKAD, RRB, 23 OR 9 13 14 15 WEST 45TH STREET.THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY BUILDING TO REPLACE AN EXISTING TWO-STORY BUILDING.
SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE, INCLUDING MATERIALS.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN, UH, JANUARY OF 2024.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING.
UH, THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, IT'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INFILL BUILDING.
IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK.
IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING IN THE CD THREE DISTRICT OF 41ST STREET.
UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE FLOOR PLAN, SO THEY'VE MOVED THE ELEVATOR TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN AN OPEN, UM, UH, INTERNAL COURTYARD, UM, THAT, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE HAS BEEN REDUCED SOMEWHAT.
AND THAT RESULTS IN THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, UM, BEING MODIFIED.
SO THE APPLICANT IS INCORPORATING AN ADDITIONAL WINDOW INTO THE FACADE, UM, CREATING SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, MOVEMENT.
UM, IT, IT CREATES A, A STAFF BELIEVES IT CREATES A MORE INTERESTING FACADE AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE, OF THE MODIFICATION.
UM, THE, UM, ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE, THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING TO ENLARGE A MESH OPENING, UM, THAT IS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH SCREENS AN ENTRY GARDEN AND PORCH.
UM, AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT, UH, THAT THIS ALSO IMPROVES THE, THE DESIGN, UH, FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
UM, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION AND WILL LET THE APPLICANT, UH, SHOW YOU IN DETAIL WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
ANY DISCLOSURES, UM, I'VE SEEN THE RENDERING, UH, PRESENTED TO ME, UM, A MONTH OR TWO AGO, UH, BY THE, UH, BROKER, WHICH I TOLD THEM TO BRING IT TO, TO YOU.
NORMAN BLANDON AND 25 ARCHITECT.
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UH, I, I'M THE ARCHITECT AT 25 ARCHITECTURES OUR COMPANY.SO AS, UH, RO LIO MENTIONED, THIS IS ON 41ST STREET.
I'LL QUICKLY REVIEW THE PREVIOUS SUBMISSION.
WE'LL GET TO THE POINT WE ARE OKAY WHEN ZONING, THE NUMBERS ARE PERFECTLY COMPLIANT.
THE DEMOLITION WAS DONE UNDER THEIR SEPARATE PERMIT.
SO THE PROJECT'S ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE MOMENT.
THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THIS IS A MONTAGE OF THE, UH, FAC ALL THE WHOLE 41ST STREET FACADE, HIGHLIGHTING OUR BUILDING HERE.
AND, UH, SEE SOME OTHER PHOTOS, CLOSE PHOTOS OF SOME OF THE SHOPS THERE.
NOW THIS IS THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN YOU SEE IS AT THE TOP, THE AFFECTED AREAS, UH, OR THE ELEVATOR, WHICH IS AN PEACH.
THE COURTYARD, WHICH IS THE, THE INTERIOR COURTYARD, WHICH IS GREEN, AND THE ATRIUM, WHICH IS BLUE, AND ALSO THE FACADE.
SO ON THE LOWER PLAN, WE SEE THAT WE HAVE MOVED THE ELEVATOR TO THE BACK, TO THE BACK, AND THE WHICH HIGHLIGHTING THE FACADE, WHICH IS GONNA BE AFFECTED.
AND, UH, THE ATRIUM, THE LIGHT WALL HAS BEEN RE REDUCED ON THE SECOND LEVEL, YOU SEE ALSO THE ELEVATOR ON THE BACK.
THE ATRIUM, UH, LIGHT WALL HAS BEEN REDUCED.
AND WE HAVE, UH, REMOVED THE ATRIUM ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND EXPANDED THE, THE SIZE OF THAT OFFICE SPACE ON THE FRONT, UH, FACING 41ST STREET.
YOU SEE ON THE ORIGINAL YOU HAD, UH, THE WINDOW OF, OF THAT OFFICE SPACE FACING THE COURTYARD, BUT WE HAD NO WINDOW FACING THE 41ST STREET.
SO AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER AND SOME OF THE PROSPECTIVE, UH, TENANTS, WE, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THESE, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES.
CREATING MORE ACCESS TO 41ST STREET AND BRINGING MORE LIGHT INTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS HOW THE ROOF WILL BE AFFECTED.
ON THE LEFT HERE IS THE ORIGINAL APPROVED FACADE.
AS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE'S NO WINDOW, BUT THE, THE, THE WIRE MESH, THAT, THAT'S, UH, IT'S A METAL MESH THAT WE HAD PROPOSED.
WE HAVE A PICTURE OF IT HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT.
AND, UH, ON THE MIDDLE PHOTOGRAPH, MIDDLE ELEVATION, YOU SEE HOW WE REDUCE THE, THE OPENINGS, WELL, WE ENLARGE IT ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND REDUCE IT ON THE SECOND LEVEL.
SO AS YOU SEE, THAT IS THE SAMPLE OF THE MATERIAL WE PLAN TO USE.
AND, UH, WE ADDED THE WINDOW, UH, AND THAT OFFICE FACING 41ST STREET AS WELL.
AND THE, UH, DRAWING ON THE RIGHT IS THE REAR ELEVATION.
NOT MUCH HAPPENING THERE, WHICH IS FACING AN ALLEY.
ON THE LEFT IS THE ORIGINAL, UH, APPROVAL.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE ON THE RIGHT, JUST WE DID ALSO A SECTION, WORKING SECTION, UH, THROUGH THE BUILDING, HIGHLIGHTING THE ELEVATOR AND THE LIGHT.
WELL, THIS IS A, AN ELEVATION WITH THE MATERIALS WE PROPOSE TO USE.
MOSTLY STUCCO AND THE PERFORATED METAL.
THOSE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE FACADE.
AND, UH, BASICALLY THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? ANYBODY ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE IN HERE, SO THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE DESIGN.
IF YOU GO TO THE, THE PHOTOGRAPH BEFORE YOU, SORRY, SORRY.
THE, THE NEXT ONE WITH THE PICTURE.
SO WHERE THAT MAN IS STANDING IN THAT TOP LEFT WINDOW, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT IS NOT GONNA BE CLEAR GLASS, RATHER IT'S GONNA BE PERFORATED METAL.
ON THE GROUND LEVEL, IT WOULD BE A SCREEN AND PERFORATED METAL.
ON THE SECOND LEVEL, IT WOULD BE PERFORATED METAL AND THE WINDOW BEYOND.
HOW, HOW MUCH DOES THE PERFORATED METAL STOP THE LIGHT? THERE'S ABOUT A TWO THREE INCH CAP.
HOW MUCH? IT'S HARD FROM THAT PICTURE.
HOW, HOW OPEN DOES THE, OH, THE, THE ACTUAL, UH, IT'S 60% OPEN.
AND THAT'S ON ALL FOUR OR ON THE LEFT HAND? NO, JUST THE TWO.
THE TWO, THE TWO OPENING IS ON, ON THE RIGHT.
AND ON THE, ON THE LEFT, IS THAT JUST CLEAR GLASS? YES.
ON THE, ON THE, ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE ONE, THE ONE PERSON IS GOING.
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TO THE BUILDING ABOVE THAT IS A WINDOW.AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE THE, THE PERFORATED METAL.
UM, ON THE GROUND LEVEL IT'S OPEN TO A COURTYARD.
AND ON THE SECOND LEVEL IT'S A, A WINDOW IS BEHIND THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST WINDOW ON THE TOP LEFT, A FIXED GLASS WINDOW ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT'S, UH, LET'S SEE, ON THE, ON THE FIRST FLOOR, THE, THE COURTYARD IS SORT OF OPEN AIR.
YEAH, BUT SO THERE'S NOT SYMMETRY AND THE TWO WINDOWS ON TOP? NO, THERE'S NOTHING.
UH, THERE'S ONE IS PERFORATED METAL AND THE OTHER IS GLASS.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, THE ONE, ONE IS ALL ONLY GLASS.
THE OTHER ONE HAS PERFORATED METAL IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.
SO IS THERE A REASON WHY THE METAL PER PERFORATIONS WERE, DOES NOT GO TO THE TOP OF THE, UH, BUILDING LIKE THE GLAZING ON THE ORIGINAL DESIGN? ON THE RIGHT, ON THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, WE, THAT WAS A, A FULL COURTYARD BASICALLY.
I, I KEEP THINKING THAT'S GLASS GLAZING, BUT IT'S NOT.
UM, IS THERE, THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP WITH IT.
THIS ONE COULD BE BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE AN ENCLOSED SPACE ON THE ORIGINAL ONE.
THAT WAS AN OPEN SPACE OPEN TO, TO THAT, TO THE SKY
I'M SURE I MISSED IT, BUT YOUR COLLEAGUE THAT BROUGHT THE IPAD AROUND WITH THE TEXTURE, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT THE METAL? IT'S ALUMINUM.
THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE THE MESH.
THE RENDERINGS DON'T REALLY PORTRAY THAT PARTICULAR PATTERN AT ALL, UM, NOR A COLOR.
SO, AND WHEN YOU CALL IT MESH, IT'S NOT, IT'S A, IT'S A PERFORATED SCREEN.
WHAT PATTERN ARE YOU PLANNING TO USE? THE THING AND THE RENDERING? WE COULDN'T FIND THAT EXACT PATTERN.
SO WE JUST USE OF GENERIC MATERIAL.
SO THERE, IS IT GONNA BE ORGANIC LIKE THIS OR IS IT GONNA BE THAT? NO, THAT'S A PANEL.
IT'S, WE HAVE THE MANUFACTURER, WE'VE CONTACTED MANUFACTURER AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, WITH THEM FOR THE DETAILS OF CONSTRUC RIVER IS SIMPLE RIVER STONE.
RIVERSTONE IS THE NAME OF THE PATTERN BY HENDRICK METALS.
DO YOU HAVE A CLOSER SIDEWALK VIEW? I THOUGHT THAT WAS, EXCUSE ME? IS THERE A CLOSER SIDEWALK VIEW, CLOSER SIDEWALK, LIKE FROM YOUR, ON YOUR SIDEWALK PATIENT LOOKING AT A VIEW LIKE, OH, UH, NOT, NOT IN THIS, UH, NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAD DONE STUDIES FOR THE PREVIOUS, UH, APPLICATION.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN YOU WERE WALKING BY ON THE STREET FROM SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, IN BAYSHORE, THE NEW PARK, HOW IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE, LIKE THE SIGNAGE OR IN A, WERE YOU, WERE YOU APPROACHING IT FROM THE SOME OR THE GATES UP, UP IN, UM, NORTH, NORTH BEACH? YES.
LIKE THIS IS LIKE A SMALLER VERSION OF I SEE THE LIKE LITTLE, YES.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF IT WAS LIKE A SIDEWALK VIEW YEAH.
OF IT JUST, WAS THIS ALWAYS THE MATERIAL THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED? WE, SO THIS, WE HAD NOT SEEN THAT THAT PARTICULAR MATERIAL WE'LL NEED A COPY OF.
IF, IF THE BOARD IS, IS, IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT MATERIAL, WE'LL NEED A COPY.
IT'S ATTEND THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL THAT, UH, AN IMAGE OF THAT MATERIAL.
OH, THAT WAS GONNA BE USED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU MOVED THE OPEN SPACE, YOU REMOVED THE OPEN SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE, HERE, THIS, THIS, PUT THE FLOOR PLAN UP THERE FOR A SECOND.
THIS, THIS WAS, UH, THIS SPACE HERE, THIS BEFORE IT WAS SPACE IN.
NOW IT'S, THAT WAS AN AN A COURTYARD THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY UP AND NOW IT'S, WE'VE MADE IT A PART OF THE INTERIOR SPACE.
SO THAT'S PART OF A, SO NOW THAT'S INTERIOR SPACE.
SO WHY IS THERE THEN, UH, MY COLLEAGUE HERE HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE TWO WINDOWS.
WHY IS IT THE WINDOW ON THE LEFT SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE? ALL CLEAR GLASS, BUT THE WINDOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE HAS THE MESH.
WE WANTED TO KEEP SOME OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF OUR, OF OUR IDEA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
SO WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT TRANSPARENCY.
THAT WAS, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL VERSION AND THE ORIGINAL VERSION THAT WAS TRANSPARENT, IT TRANSPARENT TO THE COURTYARD, UH, AND THE, AND THE OPEN COURTYARD.
BUT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SOME OF THAT ORIGINAL IDEA AND JUST TAKE THE MESH AND NEXT, UH, PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW TO CREATE SOME, SOME OF THE SAME IDEA THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
SO THEN THE, THE, THE RENDERING REALLY DOESN'T, BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOWING THE, THOSE LOOK LIKE, KIND OF LIKE WHITE STONES? WELL, IT'S A, LIKE WHEN IN THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE, WE COULDN'T FIND THE EXACT, THAT, THAT EXACT PATTERN.
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SO WE WENT WITH SOMETHING GENERIC TO REPRESENT THAT.SO IT'S GONNA BE WHITE STONE LIKE THAT FROM THE TOP ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM.
IT'S UH, THAT PATTERN'S GONNA, AND THAT ALUMINUM PATTERN WILL GO FROM, UH, IN THOSE TWO OPENINGS.
SO THE WHITE IS THE, IS A CLEAR AREA IS A HOLLOW AREA.
THE WHITE IS, IS IS PERFORATED.
WHITE RIVER ROCKS TO ME FROM, WELL, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE PATTERNED RIVER ROCK.
BUT WHAT YOU SEE IN WHITE IS THE PERFORATED AREAS.
SO IF YOU SEE HERE, UNDERSTAND ON THE, ON THE SCREEN THIS, THAT WOULD BE THAT MATERIAL AND THIS WOULD BE THAT MATERIAL, THESE TWO THINGS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, YOU JUST HAVE THAT BLOCKAGE OF VIEW FROM INSIDE OF PARTIAL SPACE, PARTIAL, UH, LOOKING OUT MM-HMM
WE DO SEE THE, IN THE, IN THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN, UH, 2024, WE DO SEE THAT THAT MATERIAL PAGE, UM, IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PACKET THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.
BUT WE WOULD REFER TO THE ORIGINAL ONE IS, SINCE IT'S IN FRONT OF US, IS ARE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MM-HMM
I WASN'T HERE WHEN IT ORIGINAL WAS APPROVED.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BASIC AND THIS IS A NEW BUILDING ON THE BLOCK AND YOU'VE GOT A CHANCE TO MAKE A STATEMENT HERE AND LIKE A STAINLESS STEEL WOVEN MESH LIKE YOU WERE CALLING IT VERSUS JUST A A, AN ALUMINUM FENCE MATERIAL WOULD BE MUCH MORE INTERESTING AND, AND TEXTURE AND STILL HAVE THE SAME OPACITY.
YOU COULD KEEP ALL THAT, BUT WOULD BE, I DUNNO, A MORE HANDSOME AND JUST NICER FOR THE, THE STREET.
SO MY OPINION IS THAT I'M FINE WITH YOU INCREASING YOUR, YOUR USABLE FLURRY INSIDE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE EXERCISE HERE.
BUT THAT MATERIAL SHOULD, I DON'T LIKE THE MATERIAL AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO TELL THEM WHAT TO USE EVEN THOUGH I JUST DID
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK, AND, AND ALSO THE PLANTING'S INSIDE THERE SO THAT YOU BUFFER THE LOOK AT THE STAIR.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STAIR ON THE INSIDE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IF THE STRINGER GETS BUTTED UP AGAINST THE GLASS AND IT DOESN'T GET FINISHED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KIND OF KEEP THAT CLEAN.
UM, AND ALSO I SEE A WOOD CEILING INSIDE, YOU KNOW, IS, WHICH MIGHT NOT PROBABLY HAPPEN EITHER.
SO IS THAT, IF THAT'S PART OF IT.
THE PERFORATION, THE SCREENING I'LL CALL IT IS, IS CHANGING THE SPECIFICATION OF THE SCREENING.
THE, THERE ARE, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE, THE ACTUAL MATERIALS WE CAN USE WITH THE NOAS AND ALL THAT.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS APPROVED BY, THEY HAVE NOAS AND IT WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS THIS MATERIAL.
BUT IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE, THE STAFF HAS A KNOWLEDGE OF, OF, OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MATERIALS? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THEM DO RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH A NEW MATERIAL? 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY MY ISSUE IS JUST THE SCREENING MATERIAL.
UM, AND THE REST, YEAH, NO, WE CAN'T IMPROVE THE DESIGN WITH THE CAVEAT OF THAT.
SO THEY CAN KEEP, KEEP CONSTRUCTION MOVING.
I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THAT DOWN.
UM, IF, IF YOU GIVE US SOME, UH, GUIDANCE AS TO THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, WE WE'RE COMFORTABLE APPROVING IT AT A STAFF LEVEL.
HOWEVER, AS AN ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU DO WANT TO SEE THAT MATERIAL, YOU CAN APPROVE THE OVERALL MASSING AND BRING BACK JUST THE MESH.
UM, YOU KNOW, BIFURCATE THE APPROVAL, APPROVE EVERYTHING ELSE SO THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND, UM, LOOK AT THE MESH AT THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU CHOOSE.
I MEAN, I'M, I WOULD BE FINE WITH STAFF APPROVING, BUT NOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THERE'S OTHER RESTRICTIONS, I'M JUST LIKE A LITTLE UNSURE WHAT WE COULD, WHAT WE COULD DO HERE.
I LIKE, I LIKE THE NEW MASSING.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NICE AND THOUGHTFUL.
I JUST, I THINK THAT MAYBE THAT ALUMINUM CUT OUT WORKED ON THE PRIOR DESIGN BECAUSE THAT ACTED MORE AS LIKE A SHIELD TO OPEN SPACE, WHEREAS NOW YOU'RE SHIELDING ENCLOSED SPACE.
SO I THINK SOMETHING LIGHTER, I MEAN AS IN TERMS OF GUIDANCE FOR STAFF, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE LIKE ADAM WAS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, A ME A TRUE MESH OR MAYBE LIKE WIRES WITH A GROWTH OF PLANTING ON IT.
SOMETHING, SOMETHING JUST LIGHTER.
UM, SO I MEAN, I'D BE COMFORTABLE HANDING THAT TO STAFF, ASSUMING THAT'S SOMETHING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A RESTRICTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE PREVENTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEING APPROVED.
YEAH, I THINK AS ARCHITECT SAID,
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IT'S, IT'S A, SOMETHING THAT'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, WHICH IS HARD, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER PRODUCTS OUT THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMMAND IF THE SUGGESTION I WOULD SAY WOULD BE A WOVEN MATERIAL OF OBVIOUSLY STAINLESS STEEL, PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE THE PREVIOUS HOUSE THAT WAS PRESENTED OR YEAH, THAT, THAT'S CHAIN LINK.
I I, I THINK THIS ONE COULD BE A LITTLE, THIS HAS TO HAVE A SECURITY ELEMENT I THINK BECAUSE IT'S ON, ON A, BECAUSE BANKER, BANKER AS A COMPANY THAT MAKES THE PRODUCT PRODUCTS, UM, BUT IT'S NOT A GIGANTIC SQUARE FOOTAGE, SO IT WILL BE MORE COST COSTLY THAN WHAT YOU'VE GOT FOR SURE.
UM, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FRAME IT AND, AND TIE IT BACK.
SO IT'S, IT, IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED, BUT I THINK, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US, I THINK IF THAT'S ENOUGH DIRECTION.
I JUST WANTED TO RETURN TO LAURA'S COMMENT ABOUT BRINGING IN SOME GREEN ELEMENT.
I JUST FIND THE, THE DESIGN RATHER JARRING IN, UM, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND, AND THE STREET AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD SOFTEN IT AND MAYBE BRING, ENHANCE SOME OF THE MORE, UH, THE SOFTER LINES ON EITHER SIDE TO HAVE SOME MORE NATURAL ELEMENTS TO IT.
AND THERE'S A PLANTER INSIDE OF THERE STILL.
THAT'S NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF LIGHT, BUT I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE FILLED WITH LOW LIGHT PLANTS SO THAT WE SEE THE GREEN THERE AND LIKE INTRODUCE POTENTIALLY CLIMBING, CLIMBING SPECIES ON WHATEVER.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT GONNA CLIMB THAT ALUMINUM VERY EASY.
SO IT WOULD BE ABLE TO CLIMB A, A, A WOVEN, A WOVEN, UH, PRODUCT BETTER.
SO I MEAN, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE ALUMINUM COVERING, UM, BE REPLACED WITH A LIGHTER, UM, AND MORE WOVEN WOVEN YEAH.
WOVEN, UH, UH, METAL FORM THAT, UM, THAT JUST IS MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THE, UM, BUILDING BEHIND IT AND TO ALSO JUST KIND OF CONSIDER PLANTING AS WELL AS YOU WORK THROUGH THAT.
DOES THAT LET STAFF APPROVE THAT? OKAY.
AND UTILIZE, UH, PLANTING, UM, THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO, TO CREEP UP THE YEAH.
I'M SORRY, YOU SAID CLIMATE SPECIES? LIKE WHAT? IF I COME FROM, UM, OKAY.
THAT, THAT, AND THAT'S THE MOTION.
JUST AS LONG AS WE, WE'VE REJECTED THE ALUMINUM.
DO WE COME BACK TO THE BOARD OR STAFF? WELL, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE VOTE.
RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE MOTIONS FOR STAFF.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. LEWIN AND A SECOND BY MR. LESTER.
ANY OPPOSED? NO MOTION PASSES.
THAT'S, THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET MORE OF THESE COMING UP LIKE ON THE STREET AND THAT'S, THAT'S A FENCE THAT, THAT'S A FENCING MATERIAL.
AND APRIL SIXTEENTH'S MY LANDLORD.
SO WANT, THEY DON'T, IT PROBABLY WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO IT'S LIKE WE COULD DO ANYTHING WE WANTED TO.
WHAT MADE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT? UM, VERIZON BUILDING, LIKE NO.
ANY, ARE THERE ANY MORE ITEMS? NOPE.