* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. TWO, [00:00:01] ONE. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. TODAY IS MARCH 24TH, 2026. UH, FOR OUR FIRST LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE MEETING THIS YEAR, I'M JOINED BY COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ AND COMMISSIONER BOT. UM, BEFORE I'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO READ THE ZOOM INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT. TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-FOUR 4 9 9, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 5 0 5 9 9 2 3 0 3 7 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 5 0 5 9 9 2 3 0 3 7. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? LET'S CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IN THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. THANK YOU. UH, TOM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA [DEFERRALS] TODAY? YES, MR. CHAIR. THERE'S THREE. UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO REGARDING THE CREATION OF A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS PROGRAM FOR WASHINGTON AVENUE IS BEING DEFERRED TO A FUTURE DATE. AND ITEM NUMBER 15 REGARDING THE LIVE BETTER PROGRAM IS BEING DEFERRED TO A FUTURE DATE. AND THEN LASTLY, ITEM NUMBER 11, REGARDING THE NORTH BEACH WATER QUALITY AND PARK VIEW CANAL REPORT IS BEING DEFERRED TO NEXT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1ST, 2026. OKAY. UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA AS AMENDED? UH, SO MOVED AS AMENDED. I SECOND DO WE SET BY ACCLIMATION? YES. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT SOME PEOPLE HERE WAITING THE AUDIENCE. I DON'T WANNA KEEP 'EM TOO LONG. MIRIAM, UH, FOR THE MAURICE GIBB PARK, I THINK THAT IS ITEM [10. DISCUSS POSSIBLE PROCUREMENT OF A NEW MONUMENT SIGN FOR MAURICE GIBB MEMORIAL PARK.] NUMBER 10. I'D LIKE TO CALL THAT. OKAY. UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS DISCUSS POSSIBLE PROCUREMENT OF A NEW MONUMENT SIGN FOR MAURICE GIBB MEMORIAL PARK MONUMENT SIGN. UM, WHAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO IS THAT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGN WITHOUT EVEN A CONCEPTUAL, AT THIS POINT, IT'S VERY HARD TO, TO DETERMINE A COST AND OF, OF COURSE, RELATED TIMELINES. BUT WE'RE AT THE COMMITTEE'S DISPOSAL AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE DECIDES. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. READY? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, THIS IS AN ITEM I PLACE ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THE SUNSET HARBOR ASSOCIATION. UH, AND, UH, AND IN FACT, IT'S IN CELEBRATION OF THE BEAUTIFUL WORK, UH, THAT WAS DONE WITH A COMPLETION OF THIS PARK, WHICH IS TRULY A MASTERPIECE AND SUCH A GREAT AMENITY FOR, FOR OUR CITY AND, AND THE NEIGHBORS. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S UNFORTUNATE IS THAT WITH THIS NEW PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE KEPT THE EXISTING, UH, MONUMENT SIGN AND IT WAS A DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MEET THE CALIBER, SOMETHING THAT WOULD MEET THE STYLE OF, OF THE NEW PARK. UM, AND WHILE, WHILE MAINTAINING, OBVIOUSLY THE MUSICAL THEME THAT'S, THAT'S INVOLVED HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ONEROUS REQUEST. I, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION, WHETHER IT BE CIP OR PARKS, COULD CERTAINLY DO WITH, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, UH, AND COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, UM, ON SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE NOT TOO EXPENSIVE, BUT THAT WOULD ELEVATE THE PARK, UH, ESPECIALLY THE SIGNAGE TO THE STANDARDS OF THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE THERE THROUGH THE CHAIR. SURE. UM, I, I LOVE THIS IDEA. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE AN EQUALLY, UM, ELEVATED WELCOME SIGN TO, UH, INTRODUCE PEOPLE TO THE PARK. I WOULD SUGGEST, GIVEN THE BUDGET REALITIES WE'RE FACING, THAT WE GO IN WITH A FIXED AMOUNT MM-HMM . AND SAY, NOT MORE THAN LET'S SAY $75,000. AND IF SOMEBODY COMES BY BACK WITH AN IDEA THAT IS SO SPECTACULAR, UM, THAT WE REALLY CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT, THEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. BUT IF YOU GO IN SAYING IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN 102 HUNDRED, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA COST [00:05:01] 200. YEAH. SO LET'S KEEP IT TIGHT. SEE, I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN BE REALLY CREATIVE, NOT YOU ONE CAN BE, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN ALSO BE CREATIVE THERE, , OH MAN. ANYHOW, ONE CAN BE REALLY CREATIVE, UM, WITH A LIMITED AMOUNT OF BUDGET. AND I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE SOMETHING REALLY CREATIVE AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT NOT SPEND A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO IT. BECAUSE THE REALITY IS MY ONE QUESTION. ARE WE LOOKING AT A SECOND SIGN OR A REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING? I WOULD IMAGINE THE REASON I ASK IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S THERE. IT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO REPLACE PERHAPS, I THINK JUST A REPLACEMENT. YEAH. PERHAPS THROUGH THE CHAIR. UH, WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE FROM THE SOUTH OF, FROM THE SUNSET HARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. PERHAPS WE COULD RECOGNIZE, UH, MARYLAND, UH, WHO COULD SPEAK AS TO WHAT IS THE DESIRE AND THE VISION OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA. AYE, AYE. GOOD MORNING. UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS ITEM. UM, WHEN THE PARK WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, CONCEPTUALIZED, WE HAD SOME FUNDS FOR A NEW MONUMENT. MM-HMM . AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE FUNDS WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PARK TO USE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO DID THAT DEEMED THAT WE HAD, UM, SUCH BEAUTIFUL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T NEED A NICE MONUMENT, YOU KNOW, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARK, WHICH TO ME MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE HAVING A GORGEOUS ARMANI SUIT WITH WALMART SHOES. THAT'S THE WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE. SO, UM, THE LITTLE MONUMENT THAT WE HAVE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE A TOMBSTONE. I MEAN, ONE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN ASKED ME IF MAURICE KI WAS BURIED THERE. AND I HAD TO SAY, NO, DARLING, HE'S NOT BURIED THERE. IT'S JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE A TOMBSTONE, BUT IT ISN'T. SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET RID OF THAT LITTLE THING AND DO SOMETHING MORE EMBLEMATIC. AND OF COURSE, THANK YOU. OF COURSE. KEEPING THE MUSIC, THE MUSICAL THEME, YOU KNOW, UM, WE LIVE, NOT PART OF THE TIME, BUT A LOT OF TIME UP IN CLEVELAND OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. AND THE, THE CITY HAS GUITARS, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OVER THE CITY. AND SOME OF THOSE GUITARS, MONUMENTS ARE WORKS OF ART. YEAH. MEAN THEY ARE GORGEOUS. SO SOMETHING AROUND THOSE VEIN, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IN THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE LITTLE TOMBSTONE IS NOW, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS OUR PARK. THANK YOU. AT, AT ONE POINT WE THOUGHT WE WILL TAKE A PROBLEM OFF YOUR MAY. I SURE. GO AHEAD. WE WILL TAKE A PROBLEM OFF YOUR HAND WITH THE SUNSHINE BOYS THAT IS ON 41ST STREET. 'CAUSE THAT POOR LITTLE THING IS BEHIND THAT HUGE FPNL COLUMN AND IT DESERVES. OKAY. SO, SO DAVID, YOU, SHE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. WAS THERE MONEY DEDICATED TO THE NOT FOR A MONUMENT SIGN? NO. THE, THE MONEY THAT I BELIEVE SHE'S REFERRING TO IS AN ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES PLACE OF DEDICATION, BUT THAT'S NOT DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT ITSELF. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THIS POSSIBLE MONUMENT SIGN WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PARK? IT, UM, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, REPLACING THE EXISTING LOCATION. SO REMOVE THE EXISTING AND, AND PLACE THE MONUMENT SIGN THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? EXACTLY. THE TOMBSTONE. AND IF YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THAT SUNSHINE, BOY, WE'LL TAKE IT. . WE'LL TAKE IT. IT'S GORGEOUS. SO, SO LET ME, LET ME, LET ME JUST ASK SOMETHING. UH, DAVID, DO YOU FEEL THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE SAY, YOU KNOW, DESIGN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN DESIGN, THAT YOU COULD DO THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE SIDE WORK AND ALL THE OTHER SOFT COSTS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A BUDGET OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL IS REASONABLE THAT WE COULD ASK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER? YEAH. WHAT COMES TO MIND IS THE ADAGE, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. UM, IN THE CASE OF, UH, I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE SUNSHINE BOY. YEAH. IT'S THE, IT'S THE STAR CHILD. THE SUN STAR CHILD. I'M SORRY. UM, WE CALL IT THE SUNSHINE BOY , OR, BUT, BUT THAT IS, THAT WAS, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THAT STATUE. CORRECT. AND WE HAVE ASSIGNED FUNDS TO MOVE THE FPL POLL, LIKE IT WAS ALL NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT INITIALLY. SO THAT'S STAYING WHERE IT IS. AND THE FPL L POLL IS COMING DOWN AT SOME POINT. NEED TO, WE NEED TO KNOW WHY THAT POLL IS STILL THERE. YEAH. I WANT, I WANT THE REPORT ON MY DESK BY THE END OF THE WEEK ON THAT. SO THE, WHAT WHERE I WAS HEADED IS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT LEVEL IN TERMS OF AN ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES PIECE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS, IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO WHAT IT COULD COST. SO, BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS. UH, [00:10:01] AND PERHAPS OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE. UM, IS THERE ANY NEW PROJECTS ANTICIPATED IN THE SUNSET HARBOR AREA, UH, THAT AREA WEST OF, OF ALTON ROAD THAT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, THIS COULD PERHAPS BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF A PROJECT? THERE'S NO APPLICATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT ARE SEEKING CODE AMENDMENTS. OKAY. UM, THESE WOULD JUST BE AS OF RIGHT. PROJECTS THAT ARE SEEKING DESIGN REVIEW, BOARD APPROVAL. OKAY. WE, WE'D RATHER NOT HAVE IT AS AN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT REALLY COMPLICATES THINGS. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE, UH, TWO COLORS ON ZOOM. WHEN YOU'RE READY, WE CAN, WHAT, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL AND, AND SEE WHAT KIND OF CONCEPT OUR CONSULTANT CAN COME UP WITH AND PUT IT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING IN LINE WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE, AND THE COMMITTEE ARE SEEING. OKAY. YOU WANT TO, I WOULD, IF I MAKE FOR THE CHAIR, I, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING AS A BENCHMARK, THIS STAR CHILD THAT YOU, THAT YOU LOVE, THAT WE ALL LOVE, YOU KNOW, THE PARK ITSELF IS THE STUNNING ARC. RIGHT. I THINK WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT WE SHOULD AIM FOR IS SOMETHING THAT COMPLIMENTS AND IS ADDITIVE THAT DOESN'T DETRACT FROM THE IMPACT OF WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THAT PARK. BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY AN EXPENSIVE PARK WITH INCREDIBLY WELL IMAGINED AND EXECUTED SPACE. AND SO TO ME THE, THE WELCOME IS SHOULD BE NOT A MEMORIAL PEDESTAL, BUT UM, SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT USHERS YOU IN, BUT DOESN'T DETRACT FROM THE IMPACT OF THE PARTS. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE STAR CHILD THING, YOU KNOW, AND NOT THIS PIECE IN PARTICULAR, BUT SOMETHING OF THAT ORDER OF MAGNITUDE WOULD UNDER, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMPLETELY OVERWHELM THE PARK. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO GREAT. OR IT IS. 'CAUSE IT'S ON THIS SORT OF NOTHING TRIANGLE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC. EVERYONE SITS THERE. THERE'S NOTHING TO LOOK AT EXCEPT FOR THIS GORGEOUS PIECE OF ART. WE JUST THOUGHT WE WILL TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS, BUT IT'S FINE. , WE WE NEED SOMETHING? NO, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, LIKE I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING. YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE WITH SOME, UM, PENTAGRAM WITH A NOTES OR A MUSICAL IN SOMETHING REALLY THAT GOES TOGETHER WITH A, UM, CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND, THAT KIND OF THING. THAT YOU, IT, IT'S ALL IN THE SAME VEIN. THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE AIMING FOR. WE CAN, WE CAN SEE WHAT OUR CONSULTANT CAN COME UP WITH. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE GRADE OF, UH, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. 'CAUSE THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT CAN CITY CAN YOU, I'LL LAUGH FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SURE. OUR FIRST CALL IS BRUCE BACKMAN. BRUCE, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I WOULD, SECOND MARILYN'S SAYS ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOMETHING SUITABLE FOR THE PARK. I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE, I OVERLOOK THE PARK. I'M ACTUALLY AT IT RIGHT NOW FOR MY STUDY WINDOW. THIS ONE'S GOTTA BE ONE OF THE MOST WELL USED PARK IS A HUGE FOREST ATTRACTION. EVERY DAY PEOPLE COME, THEY JUST SIT THERE FOR THE, TO WATCH THE SUNSET. AND WE ARE GETTING GIGANTIC LINES, UM, TO TAKE THE WATER TAXI. IN FACT, YESTERDAY PEOPLE WERE CUT OFF, UH, AND HAD TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT TAXI. THEY'RE SO FULL. SO IT IS A HUGE DRAW AND I THINK IT REALLY BEHOOVES THE IMAGE OF THE CITY TO PUT SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AS MARILYN SAYS, INSTEAD OF HAVING A TOMBSTONE MEMORIZING THE DEPTH OF, OF, OF THE VIRUS, GI SOMETHING THAT CELEBRATES HIS LIFE AND MUSIC IT. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS SARAH DIRES. SARAH, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. SARAH. HI. HI GUYS. I AM SORRY I COULD NOT BE THERE. I HAVE AN EVENT THAT I HAVE TO ATTEND. UM, BUT THANK YOU TANYA. YOU'RE CORRECT. YES. SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE PARK, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY WELCOMES AT THE ENTRANCE. I ALWAYS ENVISION LIKE AN ARCH WITH NOTES AND THINGS WITH MUSICAL THERE AT THE ENTRANCE, MAURICE GIFT PARK. UH, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL WORK, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CONSULTANTS, UM, TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY NICE. AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING, UM, THIS ITEM. AND MARILYN IS REPRESENTING ME. THANKS. HI SARAH. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH. SO, SO I'D LIKE TO, UM, MOVE THAT THE, UM, THAT CIP WORK, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND PUTTING TOGETHER A CONCEPT, A REALISTIC CONCEPT OF, OF WHAT THEIR VISION IS, WHAT CAN WE DELIVER, HOW MUCH COULD IT COST? AND THEN, UH, BRING IT AS A REFERRAL TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I'LL SECOND COMM BA. YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? NO, I'M FINE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT, GREAT. [00:15:01] ALRIGHT. SO, UM, AND, AND BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT TO PUT FOR THE RECORD THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE STAR CHILD, THE COMPANY, UH, THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING THAT POLE, WHICH IS NOT FPL BY THE WAY. UM, IT'S THE 5G POLE, RIGHT? IT'S A 5G POLE. THEY HAVE OBTAINED ALL CITY PERMITS, BUT THEY'RE WAITING FOR FEDERAL REGULATORY APPROVAL. UH, AND SINCE, SINCE THERE HAS BEEN A SLOW DOWN DUE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, UH, THEY ANTICIPATE TO, TO RECEIVE THEIR APPROVAL WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND ONCE THAT CLEARS, IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF SCHEDULING CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S, IF, IF, IF I CAN A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY BASED ON THIS, WE WOULD GO BACK TO COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO REFER TO FERC. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY, COOL. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CARLOS. SO THIS ITEM WOULD COME BACK TO THE NEXT COMMISSION, NOT THE 5G POLL. THE MONUMENT, I THINK, UNLESS WE WANT TO KEEP IT HERE TO, UH, GET, UM, I DUNNO IF WE WANNA FULLY BAKE IT. THE DESIGN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA DO THAT AT A COMMISSION MEETING. PROBABLY BEST YOU COULD KEEP THE ITEM IN COMMITTEE AS TO THE DESIGN IF YOU'D LIKE. IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE CAN, YEAH. SO LET, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT. WE CAN KEEP THE DESIGN HERE. OUR COMMITTEE, WHILE THE FUNDING ASPECT OF IT IS BEING CONSIDERED BY FINANCE, THAT WAY IT, WE'RE NOT HOLDING BACK THE ITEM, IT'S MOVING ON A PARALLEL PATH. THE FUNDING ULTIMATELY IS THE MOST, WE COULD HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DESIGN THAT WE ALL AGREE ON, UH, UNLESS THE MONEY IS THERE. SO I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SURE. COME UP WITH A CONCEPT. YEAH. TWO, THREE MONTHS YEAH. TO COME BACK. THAT'S, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. THREE MONTHS, LET'S SAY THREE MONTHS. COME BACK WITH A DESIGN AND A REFERRAL TO FINANCE, UH, ON FUNDING. OKAY. SO JULY IS OKAY, DAVID? YES. SO WE'LL JUST SAY FOR PURPOSES OF THE CONTINUANCE OF THE DESIGN TO THE JULY LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETING. IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, THEY CAN ALWAYS REQUEST A DEFERRAL. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAVID. THANK YOU MARILYN. APPRECIATE IT. THANK, THANK YOU MARILYN. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE WAITING IN THE AUDIENCE. UM, TOM, CAN YOU [7. DISCUSS AMENDMENTS TO THE RESILIENCY CODE REGARDING VETERINARY AND ANIMAL CLINICS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL PERFORMANCE STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS.] CALL ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE? SURE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS DISCUSS AMENDMENTS TO THE RESILIENCY CODE REGARDING VETERINARY AND ANIMAL CLINICS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL PERFORMANCE, STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS. OKAY. SO THIS IS MY ITEM I BROUGHT FORWARD AFTER A RESIDENT SOUTH FIFTH. UM, HAD AN IDEA FOR A VETERINARY WELLNESS CLINIC FOR, FOR PETS IN SOUTH FIFTH. AND APPARENTLY THEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE ZONING FOR THAT. SO TOM, IF YOU CAN, UH, BETTER EXPLAIN THE IDEA, THAT'D BE GREAT. SURE. UM, VETERINARY CLINICS ARE LISTED AS A CLASS TWO MEDICAL USE. UM, IN OUR, IN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, ALL MEDICAL USES, INCLUDING, UH, ANIMAL MEDICAL USES HAVE CERTAIN CLASSIFICATIONS. AND IN THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD DISTRICTS, THE RESIDENTIAL PERFORMANCE STANDARD DISTRICTS AS WELL AS CCPS ONE DISTRICTS CLASS TWO MEDICAL USES ARE NOT LISTED AS A PERMITTED USE. SO WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT TEXT FOR A POTENTIAL LDR AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, CLASS TWO MEDICAL USES PERTAINING TO VETERINARY CLINICS, UM, AS AN ACCESSORY USE IN THE RMPS ONE DISTRICT AS WELL AS A, UH, PERMITTED USE IN THE CCPS ONE DISTRICT. UM, AND SO IF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, UM, IS, UH, IN FAVOR OF THIS, UM, YOU COULD ENDORSE THIS AND SEND IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. OKAY. ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS IT A, WOULD THIS HOURS OF OPERATION, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES THESE CLINICS OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY ON THE RPS ONE, UH, RM PS ONE THAT'S RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY. UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY WHERE WE COULD PERHAPS NOT HAVE IT BE 24 HOURS A DAY? WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CCPS ONE, THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO ON THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, I'M FINE. IF THEY WANT TO HAVE 24 HOUR A DAY DAY OPERATIONS, I'M FINE. IN THE RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS, THAT'S WHERE PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, NOT EXTEND 24 HOURS A DAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S DONE THROUGH, THROUGH THIS LANGUAGE OR HOW, HOW THAT IS DONE UNDER THE LDRS. VETERINARY CLINICS ARE NOT OVERNIGHT, DO NOT INCLUDE TYPICALLY OVERNIGHT BOARDING. UM, IF YOU WANT, WE CAN INCLUDE, BUT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST BOARDING, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE AN EMERGENCY CLINIC, EMERGENCY CLINICS. OKAY. WE COULD CERTAINLY INCLUDE TEXT IN THIS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IN THE RM PS ONE DISTRICT, THAT THIS WOULD BE LIMITED IN HOURS TO NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 24 HOURS OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, NOTHING BEYOND 10 OR 11:00 PM OKAY. AND [00:20:01] I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHAIR WOULD'VE ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. YEAH. I JUST WANNA SEE WHERE ON THE MAP THAT WOULD BE. 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A 24 HOUR YEAH. SOMEWHERE YEAH. ON THE BEACH. YEAH. BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO GO TO DOWNTOWN. THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENS TO ME. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ONE OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD. YEAH. LET THE YEAH. WE'RE ALL FREAKING FLYERS THERE. . YES. MY DOG ATE A BAG OF CHOCOLATE ONE DAY, LIKE LITERALLY TWO BAGS OF CHOCOLATE. AND I HAD TO TAKE HER THERE. WE NEED A 24 HOUR EYE DOCTOR. ALSO, BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONER, THE RRP M THE RM PS ONE DISTRICT IS THE AREA BASICALLY WHERE THE OLD COURTS DEVELOPMENT IS. UM, THAT'S THE WAY, SAY THAT AGAIN. WHICH, WHICH AREA? IT'S THE AREA WHERE THE OLD COURTS DEVELOPMENT IS. IT'S BASICALLY THE AREA BOUNDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND STREET FROM ALTON TO WASHINGTON. THAT'S WHAT DISTRICT IS THAT? UH, RM PS ONE? YEAH. THAT IS MORE IN THE CENTER. THE CENTER OF THE, THE RESIDENTIAL TECH. GENERALLY. THE CCPS ONE DISTRICTS ARE MORE OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE AREA FRONTS. FIFTH STREET FRONT WASHINGTON, I BELIEVE CCPS ONE CPS ONE'S ACTUALLY MUCH MORE LIMITED. IT'S LOCATED FURTHER SOUTH, BUT IT'S ON WASHINGTON. IT'S ON COLLINS, UH, SOUTH OF ROUGHLY SECOND STREET. WHEREAS THIS AREA, THAT'S RM PS ONE IS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND FROM ALTON TO WASHINGTON. BUT I WILL, I WILL SAY THROUGH THE CHAIR, THOSE ARE NOT HIGH INTENSITY USES. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY MIGHT BE BUSY ON THE INSIDE, BUT THEY'RE DEAD SILENT ON THE OUTSIDE. THERE AREN'T PET EMERGENCY AMBULANCES. AND AS LONG AS THERE'S PARKING, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE JUST PULL IN OFF THE STREET, I, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE A DISRUPTIVE USE. I DON'T WANNA SET A PRECEDENT LIKE HAVING ALL NIGHT SEVEN ELEVENS OR ANYTHING. BUT I, I THINK THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF USE. IT'S NOT THE KIND OF PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND LOITER. UM, IT'S NOT DISRUPTIVE. THAT'S TRUE. IT'S, IT'S ALL INTERNAL. YEAH. I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR A CLINIC TOO OPEN UP AS A 24 HOUR EMERGENCY CARE. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER BOT SAID, I THE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT, YOU KNOW, IF GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS AT MIDNIGHT, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE BLASTING MUSIC. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN AMENITY FOR THE CITY, OR AT LEAST IN SOUTH BEACH, TO HAVE, OKAY, YEAH, LET'S TRY IT. I MEAN, LET'S TRY IT. I'M OPEN MINDED. AND, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES FORWARD AND WANTS TO DO IT. YOU MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AMPLE PARKING, THERE'S LOADING DOCK, THAT THERE ARE NOISE RESTRICTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT'S BUILT IN VERY COGNIZANT OF WHERE IT IS SITUATED. LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION. UM, DO WE HAVE, ARE, ARE THESE ALLOWED USES THESE, UM, VETERINARIAN ANIMAL CLINICS, ARE THEY ALLOWED USES IN OTHER AREAS? UM, OUT IN ROADS, 41ST STREET, COLLINS AVENUE 71ST STREET, YES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE PERMITTED USES WITHIN MOST COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. SO, SO, SO THESE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS. YEAH. SO LIKE WASHINGTON AVENUE, WASHINGTON AVENUE, THERE COULD BE A VETERINARY WASH. THOSE, THOSE SECTIONS OF WASHINGTON AVENUE THAT ARE ZONED CD TWO, SO, OR CPS TWO. SO WASHINGTON AVENUE, BETWEEN ROUGHLY FOURTH STREET AND SECOND STREET, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE RPS THREE AND RPS TWO ZONING. SO IT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED. AND THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGES THERE. THE ONLY PROPOSED CHANGES HERE WOULD BE THE AREA ALONG WASHINGTON BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND. HOW ABOUT THE CD TWO AND THE CD THREE SECTIONS OF WASHINGTON. THAT'S NORTH OF FIFTH STREET, ACTUALLY. NORTH OF SIXTH STREET. YEAH. AND IT WOULD BE PERMITTED THERE. IT WOULD BE PERMITTED. OKAY. YEAH. THIS, IT'S ALREADY PERMITTED THERE. I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE, THE, UH, SPONSORS ITEM, UH, AS, AS PRESENTED, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY CAUSE AND IT'S, IT IS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENT. SO I'M HAPPY TO, UM, MOVE IT FOR THE CHAIR. YEAH. I'LL SECOND THAT. BUT BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS OR, AND IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? OKAY. NO ONE ON ZOOM. NOW. WE, UM, NAME AND OH, SURE. RICK KNIGHT. I LIVE AT 8 0 1 SOUTH POINT DRIVE. UM, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP, TOM. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS ON SOUTH OF FIFTH ESPECIALLY, IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PETS WITH ALL THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE HEALTHCARE FOR THE ANIMALS. RIGHT. AND SO, COMING THERE AND LOOKING AT THIS SPOT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WASHINGTON HAS VALET PARKING FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA BRING THEIR PETS. PLENTY OF AREAS OF USE. WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT GOING 24 HOURS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT WE'LL FIND A WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE SO MANY PET OWNERS AND FRIENDS OF MINE HAVE TO GO, AS YOU SAID, ALL THE WAY OVER TO BISCAYNE TO GET THEIR ANIMALS TAKEN CARE OF. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT UP AND GOING WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. THANK YOU, RICK. THANK YOU. SO WE CAN ADOPT THIS BY COMMISSION SURE. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE MEMO. YEAH. OPPOSITION. OKAY. WE GOT, UM, COMMUNICATIONS HERE. [00:25:01] I WANT GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY, MELISSA. UM, ITEM NUMBER 12. [12. DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE BRANDING CAMPAIGN FOR THE ART DECO HISTORIC DISTRICT OF SOUTH BEACH.] OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE BRANDING CAMPAIGN FOR THE ART DECO HISTORIC DISTRICT OF SOUTH BEACH. YES. MR. CHAIR, IF I, IF I MAY. YEAH. UM, SO BACK ABOUT, I GUESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD REFERRED, UH, AN ITEM, UH, TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE BRANDING, UH, INITIATIVE FOR THE ART DECO HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, TO HIGHLIGHT OUR UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL BEAUTY AND THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, UH, OF THE DISTRICT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF CULTURAL TOURISM FOR, FOR MIAMI BEACH. AND THE IDEA AND THE GOAL, UH, WAS TO PROMOTE HERITAGE TOURISM, DRAW, DRAW VISITORS, UM, THAT CARE ABOUT OUR ARCHITECTURE, THAT CARE ABOUT OUR HISTORY, THAT CARE ABOUT OUR TROPICAL, VIBRANT, HISTORIC COMMUNITY. AND TO, AND TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, AND ESPECIALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, UH, LOCATION THAT IS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THAT IT'S THE, SINCE 1979, THAT IS THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF OUR DECO BUILDINGS IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THAT IS OFTEN FORGOTTEN ABOUT. AND THAT IS OFTEN, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST FORGOTTEN ABOUT IN OUR COMMUTER, BECAUSE WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, BECAUSE WE SEE IT EVERY DAY. BUT IF WE FORGET ABOUT IT, THAT MEANS LEGISLATORS ARE FORGETTING ABOUT IT AND OTHERS ARE FORGETTING ABOUT IT WHEN THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PATRIMONY THAT WE HAVE INHERITED, THAT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE, THAT WE NEED TO ELEVATE. SO WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD, AND ALSO I WANT TO THANK, BY THE WAY, UM, I, IRENE BIGGER AND ANNETTE GRANT, UH, THE, OUR DECO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH WHOM WE MET, UH, ABOUT THIS ITEM WHO, WHO, WHO REALLY HAD THE INITIATIVE. THEY WERE THE REASON WHY, WHY WE PUT THIS ITEM FORWARD. AND, UM, AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, UH, LINDA AND AND, AND MELISSA, TOGETHER WITH THE G-M-C-V-B, HEARD THE MESSAGE SERIOUSLY. AND THEY PUT THEIR CREATIVE JUICES TO WORK. AND THEY'VE GOT REALLY BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT TO PRESENT US WITH TODAY. SO, WITH THAT, I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, LINDA, TO PRESENT ON THE ITEM. GO AHEAD, LINDA. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER. I'M LINDA STEVENS. I'M THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO PRESENT. UM, THE ART DECO DESIGNED TO MOVE YOU CAMPAIGN, WHICH WAS CREATED AS COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ STATED WITH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE G-M-C-V-B. UH, WITHOUT THEM, WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS. UM, AND THE REALLY, THE STAR OF THIS CAMPAIGN, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE COPY OF THE MAP, BUT THE STAR OF THE CAMPAIGN IS THE VIDEO THAT WE PRODUCED LATE LAST YEAR, AND WHICH WENT TO MARKET, UH, THROUGHOUT NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. AND IT IS ALSO PART OF OUR EVERGREEN CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS LAUNCHING IN APRIL AND GOES THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER, UH, ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. UH, IN MIAMI BEACH. WE HAD BUS SHELTERS, WE WRAP THE TROLLEY. UM, ALSO IKE KIOSKS HAD THE CAMPAIGN. UM, WE HAD BANNERS, UH, DIGITAL BANNERS, UH, THAT WERE SHOWN IN DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. AND, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL LET THE VIDEO SPEAK FOR ITSELF. UM, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, UM, WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH A HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ARCHITECTURE OFFICER, UH, PICKING ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP. UM, EACH LOCATION WAS ILLUSTRATED, UHHUH . I'M GONNA DO A VAN OF WHITE SO YOU CAN BECAUSE THEY GOT THE MAP BEFOREHAND. YEAH. SO FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS IS THE MAP. UM, ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE 40 NOTABLE BUILDINGS IN THE ART DECO DISTRICT. UM, EACH OF THEM WAS HAND ILLUSTRATED. AND THEN ON THE BACK YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT TROPICAL ART DECO, WHICH IS MIAMI BEACH ART DECO. UM, AND THESE MAPS COME IN THIS HOLDER THAT WE DISTRIBUTED LAST WEEK TO AREA HOTELS IN MIAMI BEACH, AS WELL AS MIAMI. WITH THE HELP OF THE CONCIERGE ASSOCIATION, WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED TO OUR FACILITIES AND OUR BUILDINGS, INCLUDING RECREATION. UM, AND, UH, WITH THE VIDEO WE WORKED, UM, WITH THE HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION AND ARCHITECTURE OFFICER TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS TO FILM. UH, WE FILMED BOTH OUTSIDE TO SHOW THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT ALSO INSIDE TO SHOW THE ART DECO STYLE. UM, AND, UH, WE DID A DANCE VIDEO BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, DESIGNED TO MOVE YOU SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW ART DECO CAN MOVE YOU EMOTIONALLY, BUT ALSO, UM, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO GET MOVING AND WALK AROUND, USE MICRO MOBILITY TO VISIT THE ART DECO DISTRICT. SO WE, AND EVEN THE NAME OF IT, ART DECO, DESIGNED TO MOVE YOU MM-HMM . I MEAN, IT IS SO, IT [00:30:01] IS SO AWESOME. AND WHEN YOU SEE, UM, WHEN YOU SEE THIS CHOREOGRAPHED VIDEO AND THE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF IT, IT REALLY IS AMAZING. AND SHOULD WE HAVE PJ ROLL IT? YES, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT, PJ, LET'S GO FOR IT NOW. DO WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT. WHATEVER YOU DO. DO WHAT LINDA? UM, AND, AND ALYSSA, I HAVE TO SAY THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, I HEAR WHEN I GO TO THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND, AND OTHER CONFERENCES, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS THE ENVY OF MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I MEAN, THIS IS SUCH A, A PROFESSIONALLY DONE PRODUCT THAT THE G-N-C-B-B MM-HMM . CAN USE TO MARKET OUR DESTINATION. UH, YOU KNOW, GOING AWAY FROM THAT NIGHTLIFE AND PARTY THEME, AND TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT, THIS HOW DURING SPRING BREAK WE'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING HEALTH AND WELLNESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, HIGHLIGHTING CULTURAL AND HERITAGE TOURISM, AND USING THIS AS A PRODUCT THAT THEY CAN USE IN THEIR, IN THEIR COLLATERAL. SO NOT JUST A VIDEO, YOU KNOW, THE PRINTED, UH, WALKING TOUR, UH, MAP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DESIGNED AND, AND THE WEBSITE THAT THE G-M-C-B-B HAS DESIGNED DURING REACHING DIFFERENT MARKETS. THEY'RE PUTTING THIS VIDEO. SO WE DON'T SEE THIS LOCALLY, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, WE STARTED OUT IN THE TRI-COUNTY IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND NOW WE'RE EXPANDING TO, UH, TAMPA, LOS ANGELES WITH OUT OF HOME. BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, DIGITAL MEDIA THAT WILL BE ON CTV AS WELL AS, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. SO, SO, SO PEOPLE AROUND OUTSIDE OF OUR REGION MM-HMM . WHO, WHO ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO GO TO, THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT THE G-N-C-V-B WILL PUT BEFORE THEM TO MARKET OUR DESTINATION. RIGHT. AND I JUST LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS EVERYTHING ABOUT MIAMI BEACH, OUR, OUR ARCHITECTURE. AND I, ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT IS THAT IT NOT ONLY HIGHLIGHTS THE EXTERIOR AND THE FACADES, BUT IT HIGHLIGHTS THE QUIET PART OF OUR ARCHITECTURAL BEAUTY, WHICH ARE THE LOBBIES. MM-HMM . WHICH ARE THE, THE SECRET, EVEN THE POST OFFICE THAT YOU PUT THERE IN THAT BEAUTIFUL PUBLIC LOBBY THAT IT HAS. UH, AND SOME OF OUR OTHER HOTELS, THE PARK CENTRAL AND OTHERS THAT HAVE THESE GORGEOUS LOBBIES THAT PEOPLE, OFTENTIMES THEY WALK THROUGH THE FACADES, BUT THEY DON'T GO. BUT THAT'S JUST SUPERFICIAL. WHEN YOU GO IN THERE, YOU GET IMMERSED IN THAT ENERGY AND YOU CAPTURED THAT. SO. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DELIVERING THIS BEAUTIFUL WORK, WORK PRODUCT. SURE. UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT'S A SMASH HOME RUN OUTTA THE PARK, HOME RUN. UM, I LOVE IT FOR A MILLION DIFFERENT REASONS. UM, I ALSO LOVE THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE THROUGH OUR MICRO MOBILITY TASK FORCE TO INCLUDE BIKING AND MOBILITY INFORMATION, WHICH IS SO KEY BECAUSE THIS IS A WALKING AND BIKING CITY. UM, SO SUCCESS UPON SUCCESS WITH THIS. UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE COST WAS JUST FOR DESIGNING AND PRODUCING THE MAP? NOT THE ENTIRE SURE. UH, WE WORKED WITH A VENDOR FROM THE UK BECAUSE WE NEEDED A, A MAP MAKER, AND THE TOTAL COST FOR THE MAPS WITH SHIPPING AND THE HOLDERS, I BELIEVE WAS BETWEEN 30 AND 35,000, INCLUDING THE DESIGN. INCLUDING THE DESIGN. OKAY. SO THIS IS AMAZING. THE ALSO, IT STOPS AT DADE BOULEVARD. WE HAVE MIAMI MODERN, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT STARTS IN THE FIFTIES AND HEADS UP THROUGH THE SEVENTIES. I WOULD LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, [00:35:01] NICK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO A REFERRAL FROM HERE OR IF I NEED TO BRING IT IN APRIL. UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ONE OF THESE THAT COVERS THE NORTH BEACH HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, WHICH IS ALSO A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED DISTRICT, THE NORTH BEACH RESORT DISTRICT, BETWEEN THE HOTELS, I MEAN, THE FOUNTAIN BLUE AND THE EDEN ROCK ALONE, YOU KNOW, NOT ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT KIND OF ARCHITECTURE, BUT THOSE HOTELS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF, UM, BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES WHEN THE GIS CAME HOME THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL AND IN GREAT CONDITION AND COVERED WITH BOGANVILLE. LIKE, LET US, LET'S HIGHLIGHT THOSE. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL, NOT AS MUCH OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SPACE. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE WANDERING INTO PEOPLE'S, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, BUT IT IS VERY BIKEABLE. THERE'S THE WHOLE PARK UP THERE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF GOING ON. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMISSION, NO PUN INTENDED, UM, ONE OF THESE FOR NORTH BEACH AS WELL, PLEASE. AND THAT, THAT COST IS UNBEATABLE. AND I'LL SECOND THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WITH THIS ONE IS IT ENDED AT, UH, DAVE BOULEVARD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS TO COMMEMORATE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF, OF, OF THE ART DECO MOVEMENT. OF, OF COURSE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR NATIONALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT WAS THE VISION, OF COURSE, WITH THE ART DECO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT MIAMI BEACH ARCHITECTURE, OF COURSE, WHAT COMES TO MIND? WHAT'S OUR BEAUTIFUL ART DECO ARCHITECTURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTS THE ATTENTION OF, OF THE WORLD? BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER TYPES OF ARCHITECTURE, MIAMI MODERN AND, AND OTHER TYPES THAT DESERVE TO BE CELEBRATED AS WELL. YOU KNOW, THE BAN SHOW, OBVIOUSLY WAS JUST FEDERALLY DESIGNATED. WE HAVE 13 NEW BUILDINGS COMING UP IN TOWN CENTER IN NORTH BEACH. THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE. MM-HMM . UM, AND WHERE THEY'RE VISITING. SO, NICK, DO WE NEED TO DO, CAN WE DO IT FROM HERE OR DO WE NEED TO DO IT AT A, YOU COULD PROPOSE IT AS A MOTION, UM, BY THE COMMITTEE. I THINK COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ SECONDED THAT. MM-HMM . UM, AND, AND THE MOTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION REFER AN ITEM TO DO, UH, A SIMILAR CAMPAIGN FOR, UH, FOR MID AND NORTH BEACH. I LOVE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE THAT HIGHLIGHTS BEYOND ART DECO. IT'S MIAMI BEACH L.GOV/ARCHITECTURE. SO MIMO IS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL. UM, AND LASTLY, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS THROUGH G-M-C-V-B FUNDING ENTIRELY. GREAT. THE, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE G-M-C-V-B IS INCREDIBLE. MM-HMM . UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, LITTLE DID I KNOW WHEN WE HAD OUR INITIAL MEETING, THEY WERE ALREADY LOOKING AT SIMILAR STUFF, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO. THEY WERE ALREADY, BUT THEY WERE HAPPY TO JOIN EFFORTS. UH, THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU GUYS. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK. THANK YOU. UH, IT CELEBRATES OUR DECO VERY WELL, AND I THINK THE RESIDENT SHOULD BE PROUD OF HOW WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING OUR HERITAGE. GOOD JOB, GUYS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WE HAVE, UH, TWO CALLERS ON ZOOM. SURE. THE FIRST IS DANIEL SERATO. DANIEL, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, DANIEL SERATO. AND, UM, THANK YOU, BY THE WAY, THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT. I WAS WORKING AT MDPL BACK WHEN THIS WAS INITIATED DURING THE ART DECO CENTENNIAL. UM, AND ALTHOUGH IT'S A YEAR LATER, UH, BETTER LATE THAN NEVER, AND IT, IT'S JUST SUCH A GREAT CAMPAIGN TO CELEBRATE ART DECO AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE ARTS AND CULTURE THAT DEFINE OUR CITY. UH, I DID GET A TEXT WHY WAS AN MDPL MENTIONED? I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ON PURPOSE WITH, WITH THIS LAND USE COMMITTEE, BUT JUST WANT TO THANK THE MDPL MEMBERS WHO WORK SO HARD EVERY DAY TO PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND PROMOTE. I KNOW THERE'S ALSO THE WOMAN'S EXHIBIT THAT MDPL INITIATED BACK WITH THE WOMAN'S COMMISSION, AND IT'S JUST THIS INCREDIBLE LEGACY OF 50 YEARS. IT CONTINUES, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY SUPPORTING ART DECO, BUILDING IT UP AND NOT TEARING IT DOWN. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CALLER IS MARK NEEDLE. MARK, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. I, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT FOR, YET AGAIN, FINDING CREATIVE WAYS TO HIGHLIGHT THE ASSETS OF MIAMI BEACH. UH, AND COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, I THINK YOU'RE VERY SMART TO LOOK AT IT AS MESSAGING TO THE LEGISLATURE, UH, DURING A TIME WHEN THE, THE, THE BENEFITS OF OUR SCALE AND HISTORIC, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, COULD EASILY BE OVERLOOKED IN, UH, IN A DESIRE TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ONE OTHER AUDIENCE THAT THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER, AND THAT IS THE RESIDENCE. [00:40:01] UM, I WOULD LOVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WAS MENTIONED AND IS A LITTLE BIT BEEN DISMISSED, IS THE IDEA OF, UM, OF MARKETING, UH, AS PART OF A SOLUTION FOR MAKING WASHINGTON AVENUE BACK INTO MAIN STREET, UH, FOR RESIDENTS. AND I THINK THAT INVOLVES HIGHLIGHTING THE MANY CULTURAL ASSETS ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THE AREAS WHERE RES, WHERE THERE ARE STRONG QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, ASSETS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE IF WE LOOK AT THE RESIDENTS AS AN AUDIENCE FOR OUR EXCELLENT, I MEAN, STELLAR MARKETING DEPARTMENT, AND IT COULD BE AN ANCILLARY PART OF THE CAMPAIGN THAT WAS JUST DEVELOPED, BUT REALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED AND VERY COMPLIMENTARY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY. YEAH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? UH, NO MORE COLORS. UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE IS FEATURED, UM, PRIME PROMPT, UH, UH, PROUDLY AND PREDOMINANTLY ON THIS, UM, BACK OF THE OR WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS. SO, UH, MDPL IS, IS A PART OF THIS AND AN IMPORTANT PART OF PRESERVING OUR ARCHITECTURAL, UH, HISTORY. OKAY. UM, SPEAKING OF HEART DECO, LET'S, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 13. AND JUST MR. CHAIR FOR THE RECORD, ON ITEM 12, THE MOTION WAS TO CONCLUDE THE ITEM AND RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CONSIDER A SIMILAR CAMPAIGN FOR THE NORTH BEACH HISTORIC DISTRICTS. YEAH, WE CAN ADOPT THAT VIA COMMISSION. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM [13. MONTHLY UPDATES ON HISTORIC HOTEL REDEVELOPMENT ON COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 14TH AND 20TH STREETS, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF PENDING PERMITS AND PROGRESS UPDATES FROM DEVELOPMENT TEAMS.] IS, UM, ITEM 13. YEAH. UH, ITEM 13. ITEM 13 IS MONTHLY UPDATES ON HISTORIC HOTEL DEVELOPMENT ON COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 14TH AND 20TH STREET, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF PENDING PERMITS AND PROGRESS UPDATES FROM DEVELOPMENT TEAMS. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE? WELL, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE UPDATE OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT, UM, WHEN IS THE GRAND OPENING FOR THE DELON IS THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S COMING BACK IN, IN LINE. WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT'S GONNA OPEN UP? THAT WAS, I THINK, SUPPOSED TO OPEN UP SOONER. I THINK THEY WERE DELAYED. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE FOR, FOR WHEN THAT ACTUAL GRAND OPENING IS GONNA BE. THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE. I SEE. I SEE SOMEONE, THE HONORABLE NIECE AND CASTON APPROACHING THE PODIUM. UH, UH, MR. CASTON, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. UH, CHAIR FERNANDEZ MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? NOPE. NO, I'M VICE CHAIR. OH, EXCUSE ME. THE CHAIR IS, EXCUSE ME. CHAIR SUAREZ AND OLD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK. UH, NISSAN AND CAMAN, I, I REPRESENT THE DELANO. UH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE, THEY WANT TO GET THE PROPERTY OPEN BEFORE THE WORLD CUP. UH, AND SO THEY ARE WORKING MIGHTILY TOWARDS THAT GOAL. IT COULD, COULD BE ABLE TO BE OPEN IN A FEW WEEKS. UM, AND, UH, THIS SHOULD BE A BIG COMMUNITY CELEBRATION. 'CAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, IT HIGHLIGHTS WHENEVER THESE, WHENEVER THESE HOTELS OPEN UP, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT OUR ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING IT. AND THE SUCCESS STORIES OF THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN VALUE IN INVESTING IN PRESERVATION, BECAUSE THEY DO GET A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. WELL, THEY HAVE INVESTED, IF I'M SAYING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY MM-HMM . THEY'RE DOING WORK ON THE BUILDING THAT WAS NEVER DONE IN ANY OF THE PRIOR RENOVATIONS. COMPLETELY NEW SYSTEMS. BUT, SO, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY REDUCING THE ROOM COUNT SOME, IT'S GONNA BE A MAGNIFICENT, UH, PROJECT, I THINK PROJECT THERE SHOULD. AND, AND THE RESTORING THE ORIGINAL PRE THE ELEMENTS AND HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PRE PHILIP STARK ARCHITECTURE WHEN, UH, WHEN BOB SCHWART BERG, UH, HIS ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, WHO BY THE WAY, HAPPENED TO BE MY NEIGHBOR WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP, . I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO, FOR US TO WORK TO TOGETHER IN HIGHLIGHTING, UM, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THESE WHERE, WHERE PRESERVATION AND INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CAN COEXIST TO HELP COUNTER THE NARRATIVE. RIGHT. UH, THE NARRATIVE THAT HAUNTS US EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT PRESERVATION DOESN'T WORK. THAT MIAMI BEACH, UH, DOESN'T, DOESN'T WORK WITH ITS PROPERTY OWNERS. HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING THIS. WE SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING THIS. I WOULD LOVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN MESSAGING THIS, UH, INVITING OUR LEGISLATORS TO, UH, TOUR THE PROPERTY AND, AND SEE WHAT A BEAUTIFULLY RENOVATED PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE. AND I WOULD SAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY WELL WITH THE CITY, BUT AS YOU KNOW, UH, MARIA, IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO GET SOMETHING OPEN, THERE ARE ALWAYS A LOT OF THINGS, AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE [00:45:01] YOUR PERSONAL ATTENTION TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S HOLDING UP, NOTHING, NOTHING IN PARTICULAR. BUT WHEN YOU COME TO THE POINT OF NEEDING TO GET YOUR TCO SO THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE OPEN AND HAVE YOUR STAFF IN THERE, UH, FULLY TRAINING, THERE ARE A LOT OF SO ISSUES. AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, MARIA'S FAMILIAR WITH ALL THIS. AND, AND YOUR PERSONAL ATTENTION ON THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. MARIA. I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE, UH, FROM NOW ON FORWARD UNTIL THAT TCO IS ISSUED, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT AFFECTS US, UH, ULTIMATELY. AND WHY SOMETIMES WE GET PREEMPTIVE IS LITTLE THINGS THAT REALLY IS NOT ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF BUREAUCRACY. AND REMEMBER, WE WANNA MAKE OUR CITY FRIENDLY AND EASY TO NAVIGATE AND REMOVE AS MANY OBSTACLES, UH, AS WE CAN. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET UPDATES UNTIL THIS TCO IS ISSUED. ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. UM, I'M ALREADY ON IT ON THAT PROJECT. AND, UM, SO IS VINCE. THE LAST 5% IS ALWAYS THE HARDEST. ALWAYS THE HARDEST. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. SO I WANNA STAY IN THE LOOP, PLEASE. YES, I WILL. DEFINITELY. THIS IS A PRIORITY. WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THESE SUCCESSES. AND NOW LET ME, UH, ASK SEPARATE, SEPARATE FROM THE DELANO, AND AGAIN, I WANT US TO HIGHLIGHT THIS, TO CELEBRATE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN. UM, 'CAUSE WE NEED THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO COUNTER THE, THE, THE, THE NARRATIVE IN TALLAHASSEE. UM, AND, AND AMONG OUR RESIDENTS. YEAH. MM-HMM . THAT'S TRUE TOO. UM, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RALLY HOTEL? THE HOTEL, THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH OF A CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE LAST UPDATE. THEY HAVE A PERMIT, THEY'RE DOING WORK. UM, MY STAFF WAS OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO AS PART OF THIS UPDATE. THEY DID SEE SOME ACTIVITY THERE. UM, SO IT'S NOT COMPLETELY VACANT. UM, BUT I THINK WE'D LIKE THEM TO SEE THEM MOVE FASTER TO GET THAT BUILDING RENOVATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED PERMIT I NEED FOR THE PUBLIC. WHAT IS THE HOLD UP THERE? THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. THE PREVIOUS OWNER, UM, WHO WASN'T DOING MUCH RECENTLY SOLD THE PROPERTY. UM, THE NEW OWNER WE EXPECT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ROBUST WORK HAPPENING ON SITE. WELL, I, I HAVE TO SAY, UM, FOR ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE RALLY HOTEL. THERE'S THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING HELD UP BY CHOPSTICKS. MM-HMM . FEELS LIKE. AND THEN THERE'S THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND MY PRIORITY IS TO SEE THAT TRUE EFFORTS ARE BEING PLACED INTO THE PRESERVATION OF THOSE OF THOSE BUILDINGS. AND SO I NEED AN UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY HERE PRESENT. 'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CHALLENGE FOR, FOR, FOR OUR CITY. YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY A LOT OF HOTEL ROOMS OUT OF INVENTORY THERE MM-HMM . BUT AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PATRIMONY BEING HELD UP BY CHOPSTICKS AND ALL YOU NEED IS ONE BAD STORM. AND NOW WE, WE LOSE THAT ARCHITECTURE. SO FOR ME, THAT IS THE PRIORITY. WE NEED TO HAVE THEM COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, HE, I'M, I'M ON TOP OF THAT ONE TOO. COMMISSIONER. UM, I'M GONNA BE MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE OWNERSHIP, UH, THIS AFTERNOON AT THREE O'CLOCK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT A PATH FORWARD, UH, TO SEE HOW FAR THEY CAN GO. SO, UM, I'M ON IT. THANK YOU, TOM. IF THERE WAS A STORM IN THOSE CHOPSTICKS FELL , RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A SCAFFOLD ON THE WHOLE BUILDING. UM, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE APPROACHING HURRICANE SEASON. YES. IF THAT FACADE DID FALL AND JUST BREAK INTO A THOUSAND PIECES, WHAT WOULD BE THE RECOURSE? MM-HMM . IF THE BUILDING WAS DAMAGED BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND PERMITTED, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO SEEK RELIEF. AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WOULD REQUIRE THAT IT BE REPLICATED, WHETHER A NEW BUILDING BE REDESIGNED. UM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IN THIS INSTANCE WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE THE REPLICATION OF THE BUILDING. BUT ISN'T REPLICATION THE PRESUMPTION IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, MR. ATTORNEY? I THOUGHT WE AMENDED THE CODE TO MAKE IT THE PRESUMPTION THAT REPLICATION WOULD BE REQUIRED. THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THOUGH THAT, SO HOPEFULLY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER ARE LISTENING THAT IF THEY PLAY ANY GAME LIKE THAT, AND IF A STORM COMES, THEY'RE LIKE, OOPS, IT FELL. WELL, NO. WELL THEN GUESS WHAT? , UH, YOU KNOW, THE PRESUMPTION IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REPLICATE IT. OKAY. I [00:50:01] WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION ASKING THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO COLLABORATE WITH A DELANO MM-HMM . UH, ON COMMUNICATING ON, ON THEIR, YOU KNOW, RENOVATION, HIGHLIGHTING THE PRESERVATION EFFORTS AND, AND SO ON. 'CAUSE I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS IN TALLAHASSEE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. OKAY. I'LL, AND THEN YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK IN, UH, JUNE, AND WE CAN REQUEST THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER OF THE RALEIGH, UM, ATTEND THE MEETING TO PRESENT I THINK BEFORE JUNE, BECAUSE JUNE 1ST IS HURRICANE SEASON. AND I THINK, UH, CHAIRMAN SUAREZ MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE STORM COMES, WHAT HAPPENS? AND SO WE, I THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. YEAH. I, I DON'T, I WANNA ALSO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE, THEIR IN INTENT, THEIR INTENTIONS ARE BAD. NO. YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, THEY'RE NOT, I THINK IT'S A NEW OWNER JUST RECENTLY. LET'S GIVE THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM COME BEFORE US AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON. UM, BUT TELL HIM, YOU KNOW, THAT, LOOK, WE, WE DO LIVE IN A, IN A HURRICANE PRONE CITY, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS BEING PRESERVED IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS GOING TO BE PRESERVED IN CASE OF, GOD FORBID, A A STORM THAT COMES. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST A HURRICANE. IT COULD BE ANY KIND OF STORM THAT CAN REALLY KNOCK THAT DOWN STORM. UM, OKAY. SO WE, WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS ON ZOOM WHO WHO'D LIKE TO, UM, ARE WE MOVE IT BY ACCLIMATION? YEAH. NOW, IN TERMS OF COMING BACK THE NEXT, WE COULD BRING THIS BACK NEXT WEDNESDAY AND SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE NEXT WEDNESDAY. YEAH. MAYBE THE RALLY PORTION OF IT, THE CHAIR IS OKAY WITH IT. YEAH. IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE. SURE. OKAY. SO WHY DON'T WE MOVE THIS TO NEXT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1ST AND WE'LL SEE IF THE RALEIGH IS AVAILABLE. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. UM, LET'S CALL NUMBER [8. DISCUSS AN LDR AMENDMENT PERTAINING TO A PROPOSED DISTANCE SEPARATION EXEMPTION FOR TOBACCO AND VAPE USES IN NORTH BEACH] EIGHT, PLEASE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS DISCUSS AN LDR AMENDMENT PERTAINING TO A PROPOSED DISTANCE SEPARATION EXEMPTION FOR TOBACCO AND VAPE USES IN NORTH BEACH. UH, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, ARE YOU ON? YES, I'M ON. TAKE IT AWAY. ALRIGHT, SO THIS ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COMMISSIONER ROSEN GONZALEZ, THERE IS A NORTH BEACH RESIDENT, MOHAMMED ISLAM, WHO OWNS, OR FAMILY OWNS, UH, DIFFERENT STORES. HE PURCHASED A, UH, STORE, I, I THINK IT'S ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND, UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, RECENT LEGISLATION, HIS NEIGHBORS CAN SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS, BUT HE CANNOT. AND, UM, HE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TOM MOONEY, UM, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ALLOW HIM TO CONTINUE THE, UM, OPERATIONS AS THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY. UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER NOTES HERE. UM, UH, TOM, I'LL LET YOU GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL DETAILS. I KNOW THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMISSION BRIEFLY, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. I SAID, TOM, CAN WE FIGURE SOMETHING OUT HERE WITH GETTING THE BACKUP THAT MOHAM NEEDS TO SUBMIT? UM, SO HERE WE ARE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO TOM, I THINK OUR, WHEN I WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, IT WAS DID HE, WAS, WAS THAT PRE, WAS ESTABLISHMENT PREVIOUSLY SELLING TOBACCO AND THEN HIS BTR LAPSED? OR IF YOU CAN GIVE US THE FULL STORY? SURE. UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM CAME TO THE COMMISSION, AS YOU MAY RECALL, ON DECEMBER 17TH OF LAST YEAR, 2025. IT WAS DISCUSSED AT FIRST READING AND THEN IT WAS DEFERRED TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS RAISED WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE SPACE HAD A PREVIOUS LICENSE TO SELL TOBACCO AND VAPE AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT PREVIOUS LICENSE HAD BEEN ABANDONED. BASED UPON WHAT WE HAVE RESEARCHED TO DATE, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT TOBACCO AND VAPE WAS PERMITTED THERE IN THE PAST. UM, AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT A TOBACCO AND VAPE LICENSE IS CURRENTLY EXISTING OR WAS PREVIOUSLY EXISTING AND, AND HAD NOT BEEN ABANDONED. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE TOWARD THAT. SO ABSENT THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SELL TOBACCO AND VAPE BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ HAS HIS NEIGHBORS DO SELL TOBACCO, CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. AND THE REASON THEY SELL TOBACCO IS BECAUSE THEY WERE LICENSED BEFORE THE CURRENT, UH, LIMITS ON TOBACCO AND VAPE WERE CODIFIED. ANYBODY MOVING FORWARD, UM, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NEW RULES. LEMME GET THIS STRAIGHT. HE BOUGHT [00:55:01] THE, THE ESTABLISHMENT AND NOW HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SELL TOBACCO. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ADD TOBACCO AND VAPE TO, UM, HIS PROPOSED CONVENIENCE STORE USE CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD BE PERMITTED, BUT, UH, TOBACCO AND VAPE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS AND HIS NEIGHBORS DO. SO I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE STORES, ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, THERE ARE SOME ENTITIES IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHICH ONES, BUT THERE ARE ENTITIES WITHIN THAT AREA THAT HAD PREVIOUS TOBACCO AND VAPE LICENSES AND THEY WERE LICENSED BEFORE THE CURRENT REGULATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE, IF I MAY. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER. UM, YOU KNOW, THE NORTH BEACH COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OVER LAKE DISTRICT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PIECES OF LEGISLATION I WORKED ON AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. UM, I REMEMBER. YOU REMEMBER? YES. UM, GOT A LOT OF STUFF. YOU GOTTA GOT A LOT OF FLACK FOR IT TOO. I DID THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. THAT'S FAIR GAME. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO, TO, TO SUPPORT OUR INITIATIVES. TOM, WHAT WAS THE RECOMME RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD? THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, UH, 2025, THE PLANNING BOARD HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND TRANSMITTED THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH AN UNFAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION BY A VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO. YOU KNOW, I, AND IT, IT, IT HURTS ME BECAUSE I LOVE HAM. HE, MUHAMMAD IS A WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL, A A KIND NEIGHBOR. HE LOVES THE CITY, HE CONTRIBUTES CIVICALLY TO THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, JUST AN INCREDIBLE FAMILY MAN AND PUBLIC SERVANT. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I SPONSORED THIS ORIGINAL LEGISLATION TO SAFEGUARD THE CHARACTER AND THE AREA. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, KEEP THE, UM, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND TRANSMIT THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION, UM, MOHAMMED'S ONLINE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ WANTS TO SAY A COUPLE MORE WORDS, BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MOHAMMED. YEAH, I THAT'S, UH, APPROPRIATE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM MOHAMED. UM, YEAH, THIS ITEM IS, IS A TOUGH ONE. UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE FULL COMMISSION TO HEAR IT, AND IF MOHAMED IS ON, HE SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STATE HIS CASE. GO AHEAD, MOHAMED, ARE YOU THERE? GOT IT ON MUTE. SORRY. YES. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, I HEAR THIS, UH, UM, UH, MEETING SINCE, UH, SINCE BEGINNING. SO I APPRECIATE OUR, UH, MOST, UH, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU CAN HELP THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, THEY ARE SUFFERING WITH THIS, UH, PROBLEM TO THEIR MAIN AXEL IS, UH, CIGARETTE AND, UH, BEER. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, CIGARETTE IS A MAIN ITEM. THEY CANNOT SELL IT AS, THEY CANNOT SURVIVE IT. UH, OUR COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, SHE ALREADY EXPLAINED, AND I EXPLAINED TO OUR, UH, UH, OR MOST OF THE COMMISSIONER, UH, THE SITUATION IS LIKE THIS, THAT PEOPLE, THOSE THAT OWN THE BUSINESS, THEY PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE RAIN, BUT THEY CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SELLING TOBACCO. SO IF YOU GUYS HELP THEM, AND WE HAVE A CITY OF MIAMI HAVE SOME ISSUE, THEY CAN HELP THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TO SURVIVE. SO IT IS, IT IS, I KNOW THIS IS A AGENDA THAT, UH, I REQUEST YOU TO HELP THE PEOPLE, THOSE ARE SUFFERING, UH, FOR THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTION FOR THE CIGARETTE CELL. SO PLEASE HELP THESE PEOPLE TO SURVIVE THE, THEIR LIFE AND, UH, CONTINUE TO SELLING TOBACCO. UH, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY HONEST REQUEST TO OUR, UM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND OUR, UH, BOARD TO, SO THANK YOU MOHAMED. UH, TOM, I GOT A QUESTION. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GIVE LIKE A GRACE PERIOD OF SAY TWO YEARS WHERE HE'S ALLOWED TO DO THIS FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN MAYBE HE GETS INTO SOME SORT OF COVENANT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER AGREES TO NO LONGER SELL AFTER TWO, MAYBE TWO, THREE YEARS, AND THAT WAY HE CAN GET HIS FEET OFF THE GROUND? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK YEAR AFTER YEAR, I THINK LESS PEOPLE ARE SMOKING TOBACCO. SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HE CAN PHASE OUT THAT BUSINESS AND GIVES HIM HIS BUSINESS A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO ADAPT. SO IF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, IT'S A VERY NARROW EXCEPTION WITHIN THE, UH, BLOCKS WHERE HIS BUSINESS IS. UM, COULD WE INCLUDE A PROVISION [01:00:02] WITHIN THAT LIMITED EXCEPTION THAT WOULD SUNSET? UM, THAT, THAT I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA. PERHAPS ALLOWING THEM TO, BECAUSE I, I HEAR MOHAMED ABOUT HELPING THE BUSINESS AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESS. YEAH. LET, LET TOM FINISH, RIGHT? IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE? YEAH. NOW, UH, AND I'M GONNA ASK NICK AS WELL. UM, IF THIS WAS A VOLUNTARY SUNSET PROVISION, COULD WE, AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT, INCLUDE A SUNSET PROVISION? SO SOMEBODY WOULD BASICALLY BE GETTING A CU BTR AND THEN AGREEING BY COVENANT TO, UM, DISCONTINUE TOBACCO AND VAPE SALES AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD. I THINK GIVEN THAT, UM, THIS IS A USE THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, I THINK THE CITY COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN WORK OUT THE LANGUAGE IF, IF THIS IS, UH, IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE. SO, SO THIS IS, THIS IS COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ'S, ITEM C COMMISSIONER, IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO AMEND, UH, OR I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS TO BRING BACK AS A SEPARATE ITEM. UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY APPETITE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW COMMISSIONER BOT FEELS ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, YEAH, I WOULD TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SUNSET PROVISION. YEAH. WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR, UH, WITH THE HOOKAH ON LINCOLN ROAD, WHERE I REMEMBER WE EXTENDED IT, BUT THEY HAD WITHIN THREE YEARS TO, UM, ABANDON THAT BUSINESS MODEL. SO I'D BE, UH, VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IF I MAY THROW THE CHAIR, JUST ASK A QUESTION, UM, IS THE CHALLENGE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THAT IF WE WE'RE GONNA CREATE A DEPENDENCY, THIS, THIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO DEPEND ON THIS MARKET THE WAY THAT IS DEPENDING ON IT. NOW, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE COMING AND SEEKING LEGISLATIVE RELIEF FROM, FROM THE CITY COMMISSION IT UNDER THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEFORE US, HOW MANY ESTABLISHMENTS COULD BENEFIT FROM, FROM THIS PROPOSAL? THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS NARROW, AND IT'S BASICALLY WOULD APPLY TO THE AREA ON THE, UM, WEST SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 65TH AND 67TH STREET. OKAY. AND WHAT IF, FOR THIS LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, WHAT IF ON THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, WE PUT A SUNSET PROVISION ON THIS LANGUAGE THAT EXPIRES WITHIN A YEAR, WITHIN 365 DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE, SO THAT THEREFORE, UPON THE EXPIRATION OF THIS LANGUAGE, THE USE CAN CONTINUE JUST IN A NONCONFORMING WAY, UH, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA CREATE A DEPENDENCY FOR THIS BUSINESS. THIS BUSINESS IS GONNA DEPEND ON THIS IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. BUT THAT WAY OTHERS CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T START TO SEE THE PROLIFERATION THAT WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION. SURE. WE, YOU, WE COULD DO A, A A, JUST A, A STANDARD SUNSET PROVISION, A STANDARD SUNSET YEAH. PROVISION. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THE CHAIR TO CONS FOR THE, FOR THE SPONSOR TO, TO, TO CONSIDER. THAT WAY AT THE END OF THE SUNSET PERIOD, THE USE CAN CONTINUE IN A NON-CONFORMING WAY, LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OTHERS COULDN'T DO THE SAME. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE? WELL, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE SPONSOR. YEAH. AND MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE COLLAR ON ZOOM. AND SO, BY THE WAY, WHAT I WOULD DO THEN, I WOULD CHANGE, AMEND MY MOTION RATHER THAN AN UNFAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD DO A MOTION WITH NO RECOMMENDATION. SO WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE OPPOSING THIS, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS ON HOW TO MAKE THIS BETTER. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO THE IDEA IS TO NO RECOMMENDATION, SUNSET PROVISION AFTER ONE YEAR. YEAH. AND THEN AFTER ONE YEAR, IT BECOMES LEGAL NONCONFORMING AND THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. COMMISSIONER BOT, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M, I'M REALLY TORN. UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. MR. ISLAM IS A, A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND A GREAT RESIDENT, AND A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AND WE'RE TRYING TO NOT PUNISH SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. MY, MY THOUGHT WAS IF WE GIVE A THREE YEAR SUNSET PROVISION THAT YES, FOR THOSE THREE YEARS, HE CAN, UM, SELL VAPE AND TOBACCO, BUT HE CAN ALSO START TRANSITIONING TO EITHER SELL THE BUSINESS, UM, OR CREATE A DIFFERENT [01:05:01] BUSINESS MODEL. UM, YEAH. I, I LIKE THE SUN SETTING AFTER THREE YEARS. I MEAN, YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE IT LEGAL, NON-CONFORMING I'D, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO STOP SELLING YEAH. TOBACCO AFTER CERTAIN, YEAH, I THINK, THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M NETTING OUT ON THIS. SO I THINK THREE YEARS IS A, IS A GOOD TIME. SO THE CASH FLOW CAN COME IN OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. UM, WHILE, YOU KNOW, PLANS CAN BE MADE STARTING IMMEDIATELY OF HOW TO EITHER TRANSITION OR, OR OFFLOAD THE PROPERTY. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT HIS ONLY PROPERTY. UM, SO HOPEFULLY THERE'D BE A, A, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN HIS OTHER PROPERTIES AND, AND HOW, HOW HE CAN SORT THINGS OUT. BUT I THINK THREE YEARS IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO EXTRICATE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE FOR FERNANDEZ. I MEAN, YEAH, I, I AGREE. I THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE SPONSOR. UH, SO, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I'M, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR NO RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE THE SPONSOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS WHILE STILL LETTING IT MOVE FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS THAT IS TRYING TO SURVIVE AND NEEDS THIS LEGISLATIVE RELIEF. SOUNDS GOOD. UH, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? YEAH, OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. SO WE'RE LANDING ON THE SUNSET OF THREE YEARS. UM, AND THEN I'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON, UH, LANGUAGE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED. UM, AND THEN IT'LL GO TO THE APRIL, WHEN'S THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? THE 22ND. APRIL 22ND, CORRECT. OKAY. YOU CAN COME BACK AND FIRST READING. AND SO JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, THE RECOMMENDATION OF LAND USE WOULD BE THE SUNSET PROVISION OF THREE YEARS, AND AFTER THREE YEARS, UM, NO MORE SALES OF TOBACCO OR VAPE PRODUCTS. AFTER THREE YEARS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE BASICALLY BY COVENANT TO DISCONTINUE THAT NO LATER THAN THREE YEARS. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE ALSO, SO LET'S CALL ITEM FOUR, [4. AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY CODE (LDRS) TO MODIFY THE APPLICATION AND REVIEW PROCEDURES FOR ALL LAND USE BOARDS AND TO EXPAND THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND SITES THAT CAN BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL (DUAL REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD).] PLEASE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY CODE TO MODIFY THE APPLICATION AND REVIEW PROCEDURES FOR ALL LAND USE BOARDS, AND TO EXPAND THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND SITES THAT CAN BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL. THIS WAS A DUAL REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD. SO WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION IS MADE BY LAND USE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING BOARD. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE, ARE YOU ON? I AM, I AM. THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, MR. CHAIR, MR. VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER BOT, CITY STAFF. UH, THANK YOU. UH, BEAUTIFUL AND BLESSED TUESDAY TO EVERYBODY. IT'S, UH, WOW. I MEAN, JUST TAKING A LOOK OUTSIDE, UM, HOW BLESSED ARE WE TO JUST LIVE IN, UH, LIVE IN MIAMI BEACH? I, I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL THE CRAZINESS OF OUR DAY-TO-DAY JOBS, JUST TO TAKE A STEP BACK. AND WE, UH, WE'RE ALMOST THE MOST BLESSED PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR LIVING IN SUCH A PARADISE. SO, PRESENTING THIS, UH, FOLLOWING ON THE THEMES OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOUCHED ON HERE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE DAY ONE, HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, TWO, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DELANO AND SOME OF THE, UM, POSSIBLE DELAYS THAT TEND TO HAPPEN AROUND, UH, THE END, WAITING TO GET TCO OED, UM, I'VE FOLLOWED OUR BOARD PROCESSES INCREDIBLY CLOSE, AND THIS REALLY COMES FROM, UH, TAKING, UH, LONG HARD LOOK AT THE PROCESSES. SOME OF THE DELAYS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, TIME IS MONEY FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL. THIS ISN'T JUST A COMMERCIAL, UH, ENDEAVOR. THIS IS HELPING, UH, OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS STREAMLINE PROCESSES THAT ARE MORE SIMPLIFIED. I'LL LET TOM KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE THINGS THAT WE INCLUDED, BUT THIS WAS VERY STAFF DRIVEN. I JUST STARTED A VERY HIGH LEVEL ABOUT HOW CAN WE FINE TUNE AND STREAMLINE, GET RID OF SOME OF THE RED TAPE, GET RID OF THE BUREAUCRACY THAT IS, UH, CAUSING SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS JUST TO LANGUISH IN VARIOUS BOARD PROCESSES FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE COVERED UNDER IT. I I DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE THIS AND, AND, UH, THE TIMING WON'T ALLOW IT TO APPLY TO THIS, UH, ANYWAY, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING VERY, UH, LONG AND HARD ON THE PADDLE PROJECT, ON THE ROOFTOP OF THE 17TH STREET GARAGE. THEY ARE READY TO GO, UH, HAVE ALL THEIR PLANS FINALIZED, SUBMITTED THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE ABLE TO GET TO, UH, DRB. AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR A ROOFTOP RECREATIONAL FACILITY. UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST EMPTY CONCRETE. IT'S THE UGLIEST THING IN THE WORLD. IT'S NOT REALLY VISIBLE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE GROUND FLOOR OR EVEN FROM ADJOINING BUILDINGS. UH, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO THE MAY, UH, DRB, THEY HAVE ALL THEIR PLANS READY, BUT THEY CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO FILE FOR PERMITS UNTIL THEY KNOW WHAT THAT OUTCOME [01:10:01] OF THE DRB IS. NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OPEN FOR SEASON, AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THIS. SO I'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THE MOST ARBITRARY DELAYS IN SOME OF THESE BOARDS, ESPECIALLY WITH DRB. THERE'S BEEN, UH, MULTITUDES OF TIMES WHERE THESE MEETINGS GET CANCELED, UH, BECAUSE OF LACK OF QUORUM AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S A MONTH IN THE SUMMERTIME WHERE THERE'S, UH, THERE'S NO MEETING IN AUGUST. SO WHERE WE CAN STREAMLINE PROCESSES, UH, WE HAVE THIS LEGISLATION TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. AND IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE NUANCE DETAIL OF THAT. LIKE I SAID, I WAS VERY HANDS OFF IN THAT I LET STAFF KIND OF COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, BUT THIS ESSENTIALLY JUST KIND OF TAKES WHAT CAN BE STREAMLINED FOR STAFF APPROVAL, PUTS THE POWER IN THE HANDS OF OUR HIGHLY TRAINED, HIGHLY PAID, HIGH, HIGHLY QUALIFIED EXPERTS. UM, THE MEAT AND POTATOES IS STILL GONNA GO THROUGH PROCESSES, BUT THIS IS JUST TO HELP STREAMLINE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, THINGS THAT CAN BE APPROVED AT AN ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF LEVEL IN A MORE EXPEDITED FASHION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. UH, SO TOM, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF FOR THE PUBLIC. SURE. I THINK COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE DID A GOOD JOB OF COVERING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, AS HE INDICATED, UM, WE CAME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED TO HIM THAT HE AGREED WITH THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, EXPAND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AUTHORITY FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS. SO PROJECTS THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD REQUIRED DRB APPROVAL COULD BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF. THE LEGISLATION ALSO PROVIDES SOME CLARIFICATIONS REGARDING, UH, HEARINGS, UM, NOT BEING SUBJECT TO A STANDARD 30 DAY NOTICE IF THERE LIMITED TO CLARIFICATIONS, OR THEY'RE LIMITED TO VERY MINOR REVISIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT. AND THEN LASTLY, THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID WAS WE INCLUDED SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD CLARIFY THE SCOPE AND ROLE OF THE LAND USE BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE LAND USE BOARDS, UM, STAYS IN THEIR LANE, THAT THEY'RE REVIEWING PROJECTS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THEIR SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND WHAT THEIR SCOPE AND THEIR ROLE WAS INTENDED TO BE, WHICH IS ARCHITECTURE SITE PLANNING, UM, URBAN DESIGN. YEAH. YOU KNOW, UM, ALL OF US WERE AT THE HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL ON, UM, ON SUNDAY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WITH ONE OF THE PRESENTERS WAS THAT THEY HAD A, THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE DRB RIGHT, UH, GETTING APPROVAL. AND IT ACTUALLY TOOK MAYOR GEL TO STEP DOWN TO STEP IN AND KIND OF MOVE IT ALONG BECAUSE THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS SO MUCH, I GUESS, PUSHBACK. UM, AND THAT'S FOR A HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL. I CAN'T IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT ARE, ARE GETTING HELD BACK BECAUSE OF LIKE A BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE PROCESS? UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY SEE THAT, UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE REFORM, UH, IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS, A LOT OF LANDLORDS TELL ME, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WORST THINGS IS HAVING TO DEAL WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DRB, UM, IN TERMS OF APPROVALS, NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, UM, EVEN MEETING QUORUM IN, IN SOME SITUATIONS. UH, AND SO THIS IS A STAFF APPROVE, THIS WAS A STAFF DRIVEN APPROACH? YEAH. WE HAD, UM, AT COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE'S REQUEST, WE CAME UP WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO EXPAND WHAT COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO A LOT OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS ARE LESS CONSEQUENTIAL OR NOT SUBSTANTIVELY IMPACTFUL PROJECTS COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THESE, UH, WITH THESE LISTS, AND THEY'RE WITHIN THE TEXT THAT'S IN THE MEMO. COMMISSIONER BOTT, I HAVE A QUESTION, TOM. UM, ON POINT NUMBER THREE, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE DRB MAINLY PRESCRIBE APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS, ET CETERA, UNLESS PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT. SO ON THE PLANNING BOARD, THERE WOULD BE TIMES WHEN, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T PROFFER A CONDITION, BUT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD SAY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PROFFER? AND THEN THEY WOULD CON CONSULT AMONGST THEMSELVES AND SAY YES OR NO. SO IT DOES THIS, THE WAY IT'S WORDED MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO VOLUNTARILY, SPONTANEOUSLY OFFER SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DESIRED AS A CONDITION. IS THAT THE INTENT OR IS THE INTENT? UM, I MEAN, ARE ARE YOU, ARE WE REALLY GONNA KEEP PEOPLE [01:15:01] ON THESE BOARDS FROM SAYING, WOULD YOU CONSIDER PROFFERING X? NO, THIS WOULD STILL GIVE THE ABILITY TO THE APPLICANT TO PROFFER SOMETHING THAT WOULD SAY, BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF NORMAL DRB REVIEW. RIGHT. BUT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY, THE APPLICANT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY THINK TO PROFFER SOMETHING. UM, BUT THE, ONE OF THE PEOPLE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE ON THE BOARD WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT THING. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PROFFER IT? SO IF THE PROFFER REQUEST COMES FROM THE BOARD, IT CAN'T HAPPEN? NO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN. THIS BASICALLY, UH, SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS FOR PROFFERS OF THE APPLICANT. AND SO RIGHT. BUT IT'S FROM THE APPLICANT, NOT FROM THE BOARD MEMBER. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THE BOARD MEMBER CHOOSES TO SAY, HEY, I HAVE AN IDEA, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PROFFER X THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT IS PERMISSIBLE BECAUSE THE PROFFER ONLY COMES FROM THE APPLICANT. BUT THE ANSWER IS HERE IS ON, UM, IN THE LANGUAGE IT SAYS, THE BOARD SHALL NOT IMPOSE ANY 1 39. THE BOARD SHALL NOT IMPOSE ANY CONDITION THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE, APPLICABILITY, AND PURPOSE OF THE BOARD. AS MORE SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED IN CHAPTER TWO OF THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF THE FOREGOING SHALL NOT PRECLUDE OR PROHIBIT VOLUNTARY PROFFERS OF THE PROJECT APPLICANTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT ADDRESSES WHAT IT DOESN'T HOLD ON. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S THE VOLUNTARY PROFFER FROM A PROJECT APPLICANT, BUT THE PROJECT APPLICANT MAY NOT EVEN BE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THE WAY A BOARD MEMBER MIGHT, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT ON THAT, BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED LAST TIME. UM, I THINK IT WAS MATTHEW GA OFF WHILE HE WAS ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND ASKED THE APPLICANT, I THINK, CAN YOU REMIND ME, NICK, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE APPLICATION HE, HE ASKED THE APPLICANT FOR? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS FUNDING TO A CERTAIN, UM, PORTION. I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW LAND USE, UH, MEMBERS ASK FOR THINGS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE BECAUSE I, WHAT WAS IT? HE WAS ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR THE BIKE PATH, OR IT WAS A, IT WAS A CONTRIBUTION TO A, UH, I BELIEVE AN, UH, A TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS FUND. RIGHT. AND WHO WAS THE, WHO WAS APPLICANT AT THE TIME? IT WAS AN APPLICANT FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SOUTH OF FIFTH. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS IN, IT MIGHT BEEN, YEAH. YEAH. I, I WANT TO, I WANT TO TRY TO, I DON'T WANNA PUT, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANNING BOARD OR HISTORIC OR LAND USE BOARD MEMBERS IN AN ETHICAL DILEMMA. RIGHT. I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT WAS ETHICAL TO, UM, FOR A MEMBER TO BE ASKING FOR SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE SCOPE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO IF I MAY, TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY SHOULD BE ASKING FOR PROFFERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE, BUT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I, I DON'T, I CAN'T COME UP WITH AN EXAMPLE, BUT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, AND A SOLUTION WOULD BE IF THEY PROFFERED TO DO X, BUT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT ISN'T THINKING THAT WAY THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIRS, UM, THEY'RE SORT OF STANDING THERE PREPARED WITH THEIR NOTES ON THE PROJECT AND THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD. I MEAN, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THESE BOARDS IS THAT SOMEBODY THINKS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND SAYS, HEY, THIS COULD BE A SOLUTION. WOULD YOU ACCEPT X AS A CONDITION? I THINK THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS. NO, YEAH. BUT THE WAY I'M HAVING A CONCERN WITH THE WAY THIS WAS WORDED IS THAT IT CAN ONLY COME OUT OF THE MOUTH OF AN APPLICANT AS OPPOSED TO, TO, LET'S, LET'S HAVE OUT OF THE MOUTH OF, OF BOARD MEMBER COMMISSIONER. I DON'T THINK THIS ORDINANCE WOULD, WOULD BAR THAT KIND OF A PROFFER AT ALL. I THINK WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS LIMIT THE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, LAND USE BOARD IMPOSES, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, TO ISSUES THAT ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE REVIEW. I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THE SCOPE PART REVIEW CRITERIA. I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH VOLUNTARY PROFFERS OF THE PROJECT APPLICANT. CAN WE JUST REWORD THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO IT COMES OUT OF THE NATURAL CONVERSATION OF THE BOARD WITHIN THE SCOPE? I THINK THE, THE, IF IT, EVEN IF IT COMES OUT OF THE NA OF THE CONVERSATION OF THE BOARD, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARILY AGREES TO, THEN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING THAT. SO, SO MAYBE THE, THE, THE THING IS, UM, IS THE WORD AGREES TO AS OPPOSED TO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE WAY I'M READING IT IS THE, THE APPLICANT HAS TO MAKE THE PROFFER. SO IT COULD BE A, IT COULD BE A CONDITION SUGGESTED AND AGREED TO BY, SUGGESTED BY THE BOARD AND AGREED TO BY THE APPLICANT. WE WILL, IF, IF THIS IS THE, THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE, WE'LL ENSURE THAT THAT SENTENCE, UH, EXPRESSLY ALLOWS AN APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROFFERS WHAT [01:20:01] IT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S VOLUNTARY. IT'S VOLUNTARY WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A BOARD MEMBER OR THE WHO WITH WHAT I'M MISSING IS THAT THE BOARD MEMBER MIGHT MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT THAT WOULD STILL BE A VOLUNTARY PROFFER BY THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I, I'D LIKE TO, AM I ALLOWED TO MOVE THAT ITEM AS A CHAIR? OR IF IT'S NOT MY ITEM, FORGOT YOU, YOU CAN TRADITIONALLY, UH, THE, THE CHAIR PASSES THE GAVEL. WHEN, WHEN, UH, WHEN, SO I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHEN WE SAY THIS WOULD ALLOW ROOFTOP ADDITIONS NOT TO EXCEED 45, 35 FEET, IS THIS ACROSS ALL ZONING DISTRICTS? UM, AND, AND IF I COULD, UH, MR. VICE CHAIR, IT'S NOT AS IF THIS WOULD ALLOW ADDITIONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR HEIGHT OR FAR. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I HOPE CITY STAFF CAN CONFIRM THIS, BUT THIS GIVES ABSOLUTELY NO STAFF ALLOWANCE TO APPROVE HEIGHT OR FAR INCREASES. THIS IS SAYING WHEN THEY STILL HAVE AN ALLOWABLE AS OF RIGHT, UH, POSSIBILITY TO BUILD 30 FEET, UM, STAFF CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YEAH, THAT THAT'S CORRECT. UM, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS WOULD APPLY TO, UH, ANY DISTRICT, UM, OUTSIDE OF AN HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE, WHERE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVAL WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED. UM, THE 35 FOOT MAXIMUM COULD NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT OF THE DISTRICT. SO IF THIS WAS PROPOSED IN A DISTRICT, SAY, WHERE THE HEIGHT LIMIT WAS 50 FEET AND THE BUILDING WAS AT 40 FEET, THEY COULDN'T DO A ROOFTOP ADDITION OF MORE THAN 10 FEET. SIMILARLY, IF THEY'RE A 20 FOOT BUILDING, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO, UM, AN ADDITION OF MORE THAN 30 FEET. SO, BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS RIGHT NOW. THOSE ROOFTOP ADDITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE DRB? CORRECT. OKAY. SO HOW, HOW DOES EXPANDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE DESIGN REVIEW AUTHORITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION, UM, PRE SAFEGUARD OUR DESIGN STANDARDS? BECAUSE LIKE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW A RESIDENT COULD GO TO, COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. CORRECT. AND SO THIS WOULD, WOULD, WOULD RESIDENTS STILL, WOULD THERE BE SOME SORT OF NOTICE THAT THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, PROCESS GOING THROUGH TO, FOR, FOR THESE APPROVALS? NO, BECAUSE I SAID, AND SO, AND, AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, UH, BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS IS WHAT STARTED YOUR ADVOCACY, ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS THAT THE PUBLIC WERE NOT AWARE OF, BUT THAT THEN IMPACTED YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE, THE SAFETY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF WHERE YOU LIVE. AND, AND HERE WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, ROOFTOP ADDITIONS. THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING 35 FEET, THAT'S THREE STORIES. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE LOWER SCALE AREAS, THAT THAT COULD BE A 75% OR EVEN A 100% INCREASE IN HEIGHT, UM, THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE PUBLIC VETTING THROUGH A COMMITTEE WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE AND GIVE INPUT AND ALL THAT. TALK ABOUT THE SETBACKS, TALK ABOUT SHADOWS, TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, SIDELINES AND VISION, UM, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS. BUT RESIDENTS WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY ANYMORE BY HAVING IT BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. THAT'S, SO I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULDN'T BE HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, TO TAKE A CLOSE CONSIDERATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS A, A, A CONCERN FOR ME AS IT RELATES TO THE ROOFTOP ADDITIONS. UM, I THINK SOMETHING HERE THAT I REALLY DO LIKE A LOT BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IS, UH, THE MODIFICATION, UH, TO EXTERIOR FINISHES, UM, THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THE MI TO, TO THE MASSING OR TO THE SIZE, OR TO, TO THE LAYOUT. I DO THINK WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S SUCH A HIGH LEVEL OF NITPICKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SET BACK AN APPLICANT, SEND THEM BACK TO A BOARD OVER SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE A DIFFERENT SHADE OF THE SAME COLOR, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT SPECIMEN OF TREE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE THINGS THAT YOU, WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE SETTING AN APPLICANT BACK, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, GOING THROUGH AN ADMINISTER, GOING, GOING THROUGH A BOARD PROCESS. UM, BUT AS, AS, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, INCREASING THE ALLOWABLE ADMINISTRATIVE [01:25:01] ADDITIONS IN HEIGHT, THAT IS A PART THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO TAKE AN EXTRA CONS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION IN REVIEWING. 'CAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT. HOW, HOW MUCH HEIGHT ARE WE TALKING? SO RIGHT NOW, UNDER THE CODE, UM, ANY ROOFTOP ADDITION WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE DRB. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, STAFF LEVEL OF ROOFTOP ADDITIONS THAT DO NOT EXCEED 35 FEET ABOVE THE EXISTING ROOF. AND DEPENDING UPON THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND WHAT THE HEIGHT LIMIT OF THE DISTRICT IS, THAT WILL LARGELY DICTATE WHAT YOU CAN DO BECAUSE YOU, THIS DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO SEE EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT SET FORTH IN THE DISTRICT. YEAH. AND TOM AND MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST, UH, UH, MAYBE JUST REITERATE BECAUSE NOT THAT WE SHOULD BE RESPONDING TO PEOPLE THAT JUST LOOK TO NITPICK ON ANYTHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I CAN 100% GUARANTEE HOW THIS WILL BE CONSTRUED BY 1:00 PM UH, LET'S SAY THE HEIGHT, THIS ALLOWS ZERO ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, UH, ABOVE WHAT IS ALREADY ZONED AND APPROVED. UM, THIS IS JUST ESSENTIALLY, UH, SEEKING FOR STAFF APPROVAL IF YOU ARE ADDING A ROOFTOP ADDITION WITHIN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THE HEIGHT, ALLOWABLE HEIGHT ON WASHINGTON AVENUE 75 FEET, AND YOU HAVE, UH, LET'S SAY A BANK OR A HOTEL THAT IS 75 FEET AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS 30 FEET, UH, THIS, UH, PROPERTY THAT IS 30 FEET AS OF RIGHT, WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, BUILD ANOTHER, UH, UH, 35 FEET HERE AND IT WOULD BE, UH, UH, APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY IF THEY DECIDED TO GO UP TO THEIR MAXIMUM ALLOWED, UH, AND ACHIEVE THAT EXTRA 40 OR 45 FEET, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE DRB. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO I'M HAPPY TO TIME TO HAVE, UH, AS, UH, THE VICE CHAIR SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, PLANNING BOARD, UH, DEEPER LOOK AT THIS. LIKE I SAID, NONE OF THIS WAS PROJECT SPECIFIC OR FOR ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR. UH, THESE WERE JUST KIND OF SOME GENERAL GUIDELINES THAT, UH, STAFF PUT TOGETHER THAT I THINK, UH, ALL MERIT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER CONSIDERATION. WELL, AND, AND, AND, AND I LOVE THIS BECAUSE IT DOES MODERNIZE OUR PROCESS WITHOUT COMPROMISING, WITHOUT COMPROMISING, UM, OUR PRINCIPLES AND, AND, AND OUR CHARACTER BECAUSE IT STILL HAS ROBUST STAFF REVIEW. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO STREAMLINE THE BUREAUCRACY THAT IS VERY CLEAR. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS STILL HAS TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THERE ARE PROFESSIONALS THERE, ATTORNEYS, UH, RESIDENTS THERE WHO, WHO SHOULD BE CHIMING IN ON THIS POLICY. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD. I SECOND AS AS DRAFTED. UH, AND I WOULD JUST LOVE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT SPECIFIC LINE TO SUE, JUST TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF PROFESSIONAL INPUT FROM OUR BOARD ON THAT. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE ONE CALLER VIA ZOOM. OKAY. LET'S HEAR IT. AND I WOULD FIRST ASK THE CALLER, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? I GO ON MUTE. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MATTHEW ALOFF, AND, UH, I AM ON A FAMILY VACATION. HOWEVER, I WAS, UH, I WAS TOLD BY A CONCERNED RESIDENT THAT MY NAME WAS, UH, INVOKED DURING THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THERE WAS AN INQUIRY AND I WAS CLEARED OF ALL AND WRONGDOING, ANY SORT OF ALLEGATION MADE TODAY IS, UH, CLEARLY WRONG. AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE PERSON THAT MAY HAVE MADE THE ALLEGATION IS CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT OF MULTIPLE LAWSUITS IN IS OFFICIAL AND INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY FOR TARGETING PRIVATE RESIDENTS AND THOSE THAT WISH TO VOLUNTEER TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER. JUST WANNA SAY IT AGAIN. IT'S EXTREMELY, UH, DISRESPECTFUL TO BE CALLED OUT IN THIS SORT OF MANNER. THANK YOU. AND FOR THE RECORD, I'M BEING SUED BY, UM, ANTI-JEWISH GROUPS FOR STANDING UP FOR THE RIGHT OF ISRAEL TO EXIST, AND JEWISH PEOPLE TO LIVE FREELY IN MIAMI BEACH, ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER BOT AND OUR MAYOR MINOR. SO, WITH THAT, CAN WE, WITH ACCLIMATION, CAN WE HAVE THIS, UH, MOVE? YES. AND TOM, THIS WAS A, THIS WAS A REFERRAL ONLY TO LAND USE, RIGHT? IT WOULD REQUIRE, NO, THIS WAS, THIS WAS A DUAL REFERRAL. THIS A DUAL REFERRAL. SO WE CAN TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING BOARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND ANALYSIS REGARDING THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF ROOFTOP ADDITIONS. AND I JUST WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EASY TO LOOK AT BUREAUCRACY AND SAY, HOW DO WE MAKE THE GOVERNMENT WORK BETTER FOR PEOPLE, UH, FOR BUSINESSES, FOR, FOR RESIDENTS, SO THAT THEY JUST DON'T GET TANGLED UP IN THE RED TAPE THAT THEY OFTEN GET TANGLED UP IN. SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP [01:30:01] IN WORKING VERY HARD WITH STAFF ON THESE VERY IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS. ONE TEAM ONERY, MY FRIENDS, UM, COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. DO YOU MIND STICKING AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT? IF I CALL ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU AND COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ'S SPONSORING? MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'RE ASKING, HOW COULD I SAY NO? YEAH. OKAY. AND I, AND JUST FURTHER, I HAVE TO LEAVE BY ONE O'CLOCK. OKAY. UM, THAT'S FINE. THEN I THINK, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS SOME NORTH BEACH ISSUES WITH COMMISSIONER BUTT. SO LET'S CALL ITEM [17. PRESENTATION OF THE 41 STREET CORRIDOR REVITALIZATION PROJECT STATUS AND FUTURE DIRECTION] NUMBER 17. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS PRESENTATION OF THE 41ST STREET CORRIDOR REVITALIZATION PROJECT STATUS AND FUTURE DIRECTION. YOU ARE GOOD. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ? YEAH. UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. YOU KNOW, 41ST STREET IS ONE OF OUR MAIN CORRIDORS. UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL AREA FOR, FOR OUR CITY, BUT WE'VE SEEN IT BE STAGNANT FOR A WHILE. UM, THE PUBLIC AREAS NEED IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT PEDESTRIANISM, SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT BUSINESSES, SO WE CAN SUPPORT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE, IN THE AREA. UM, WE HAVE A 41ST STREET, UM, PROJECT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS GONNA BE COMING FORWARD WITH SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION OF ARTHUR GODFREY ROAD, UH, PUBLIC SPACE IMPROVEMENTS, CULTURAL ENHANCEMENTS. AND SO, UM, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS. 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT GENERAL OBLIGATION DOLLARS, UH, AT PLAY HERE. I THINK IT IS CLOSE TO $20 MILLION OR OVER $20 MILLION. I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO $30 MILLION. NO, DOWN. OKAY. UM, NONETHELESS, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS. OUR BUSINESSES DEPEND ON THIS AND OUR COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE LONG BE BEEN CALLING FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF 41ST STREET. SO I'D LIKE TO, IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, RECOGNIZE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TEAM TO PRESENT ON THIS. YES, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. GOOD MORNING. YOUR MIC IS OFF. OH, WOW. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MR. UH, VICE CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS HERMAN FONG, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH CIP. UH, WE PLEASED TO PRESENT, UM, JEFF CRUZ FROM STANTEC AND ISABELLA PEDROZA FROM, UH, FROM BOOK SCARPA HOOVER TO PRESENT THE, UH, THE PROJECT TODAY TO YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. AS MENTIONED, MY NAME'S JEFF CRUZ FROM STANTEC. I'M, UH, ONE OF THE SUB CONSULTANTS ON THE PROJECT AND HERE TO, UH, BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON THE, UH, PROJECT. UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE PROJECT IS A REDEVELOPMENT OF, UH, 41ST STREET WITH THE CORRIDOR BEING FROM ALTON ROAD OVER TO PINE TREE DRIVE. UH, IT'S ABOUT A HALF MILE OF IMPROVEMENTS ALTOGETHER, ABOUT A MILE OF SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, SEEN IN THE EXISTING CORRIDOR, YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES ATTACHED HERE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME LOOSE PAVERS, UH, INAPPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING, BROKEN PAVEMENT, UH, SOME OF THE DAMAGE ALONG THE SIDE STREETS. THE LIGHTING IN THE ISSUE HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT ICONIC, BUT, UM, HAS SOME ISSUES BOTH ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND BROKEN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WRAP OF THE TREES, UM, WITH SOME OF THE, UH, WIRING THAT WAS, UH, LIKELY INTENDED TO BE TEMPORARY AT THE TIME, BUT HAS BEEN THERE FOR TOO LONG. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE INTENTION WAS TO COME IN WITH WHAT THE, UH, MASTER PLANNER WAS REFERRING TO AS A KIT OF PARTS TO, YOU KNOW, BRING A CONTINUITY TO THE, UM, CORRIDOR, UH, WITH A DESIGN THAT SORT OF BRINGS IN SOME DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT, UH, YOU GET A, A SENSE OF COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. AND, AND THAT'S WITH THE TYPE AND COLOR OF CONCRETE WITH SOME ARTISTIC UNITS, UH, WITH, UH, THE ELEMENTS THAT MAKE IT, UH, MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, LIKE THE BENCHES AND THE BIKE RACKS. AND OF COURSE, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF SHADE AND NICE LANDSCAPING AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE SOME SEATING ELEMENTS BUILT INTO THE, TO THE PROJECT. UM, WITH THAT, THERE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS HERE ARE RENDERINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ARTWORK ELEMENTS THAT'S PROPOSED AS PART OF THE CORRIDOR, UH, TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF THE SOUTH BEACH FEEL TO IT. UM, [01:35:04] VERY MUCH A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. UH, THERE IS THE PIECE OF ART THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY EARLIER TODAY, STAR CHILD, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? SUN TRACK STAR CHILD WE CALL SIDE. SO AMONG THE, UM, CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS PROJECT A CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A CITY OF MIAMI BEACH ROAD. IT, IT BELONGS TO DOT. UH, SO IT IS UNDER THEIR JURISDICTION, UH, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND, AND SIGNAGES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY. UH, SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES HERE THAT WE HAVE TO NAVIGATE. UM, IN ADDITION TO BELONGING TO DOT, IT IS A HURRICANE EVACUATION ROUTE AND HEAVILY USED BY THE EMERGENCY SERVICES TO ACCESS THE HOSPITAL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, USES AT PLAY HERE. UH, SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE RUN UP AGAINST IN DOT, UH, THAT THIS ROUTE HAS BEEN IN, UH, PLAY FOR DECADES, AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT DON'T COMPLY WITH EXISTING, WITH, UH, PROPER CONDITIONS. AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO FIX A LOT OF THAT STUFF ALONG THE WAY. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN, WE ARE, WHERE WE CAN'T, WHERE WE'RE NEEDING TO GET VARIANCES FROM DOT. AND THAT HAS BEEN A, A LONG AND ARDUOUS PROCESS TO NEGOTIATE THAT. UH, DID WE, UM, SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. DID, DID WE KEEP THE BULB OUTS ON SOME OF THOSE SIDE STREETS LIKE SHERIDAN, ROYAL PALM, THE BULB BELTS YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY AT THE CORNERS? YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T ADJUSTED ANY OF THE TRAFFIC LINEAGE WIDTHS. SO ALL THE BULB BELTS ARE STILL THERE. THERE'S SOME PLACES WHERE PARKING BULB BELTS WERE CHANGED JUST TO GET SOME MORE SPACE FOR THE PEDESTRIANS, BUT THE BULB MOUNTS AS, AS THEY AFFECT THE PARKING, UH, THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT ARE LARGELY THE SAME. OKAY. SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING A DESIGN VARIATION FROM DOT ON IS THAT SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES INTERFERE WITH THE REQUIRED SITE TRIANGLES SO THAT PEOPLE COMING IN AT INTERSECTIONS ARE COMING OUT OF DRIVEWAYS, CAN SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC. UM, WHERE THOSE, UH, CONFLICTS EXIST. THERE'S BEEN AN ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THE RESULT OF ANY, UM, ACCIDENTS IN THE CORRIDOR. AND, AND WHERE WE HAVE HAD ANY HISTORY OF ACCIDENTS, WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE THOSE TREES, BUT FOR THE LARGE PART, THERE WEREN'T. SO WE'VE, WE'VE APPLIED FOR VARIANCES TO ALLOW THOSE, SOME OF THOSE TO STAY IN PLACE. A SECOND VARIANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS THERE'S A LOT OF A DA CHALLENGES THROUGH THE JOB. UM, BECAUSE THIS HAPPENS A LOT WITH, UH, ZERO LOT LINE TYPE CONSTRUCTION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE FINISHED FLOOR RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BACK OF SIDEWALK, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FREEDOM TO WORK WITH, UH, SLOPES BETWEEN, UH, THE WALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE BACK OF THE CURB. UH, AND WITHOUT COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCTING THE ROAD, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE HAVE CONTROL OF THOSE ELEMENTS. UH, WE'VE MANAGED TO FIX A GREAT DEAL OF 'EM, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH A VARIANCE PROCESS TO, TO ALLOW FOR SOME OF THOSE TO EITHER STAY OR TO, TO, UH, TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. UH, IN SOME CASES, THE, THE DRIVEWAYS DON'T MEET THE CURRENT, UH, WAY. THE DOT LIKES TO SEE THINGS DONE, WHAT THEY CALL FLARES, WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WIDENS AT THE CURB TO ALLOW EASIER TURNING IN AND OUT. UM, THE CON THE CONGESTION WITHIN THE CORRIDOR, IN SOME CASES WHERE WE IMPLEMENTED THOSE REQUESTED FLARES INTERFERED WITH EXISTING ELEMENTS LIKE TREES OR SIGNS OR SOME OF THOSE. SO WE'VE HAD TO ASK FOR VARIANCE ON SOME OF THAT. AND FINALLY, UM, THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THE FINISH FLOORS OF THE, OF THE BUILDINGS ARE SO LOW THAT WE CAN'T KEEP THE CURB WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE WITHOUT FLOWING WATER BACK TOWARDS THE BUILDINGS. AND SO WE'VE HAD TO, I, UM, TO WORK WITH DOT TO ALLOW FOR SOME DRAINAGE TO BE PUT MID SIDEWALK IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO EITHER HAVE THE CURB UP WHERE DOT WANTS IT AT AN ELEVATION WHERE DOT WANTS IT, OR A VARIANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CURB TO BE SUBSTANDARD IN HEIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH DOT ABOUT HOW TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS ARE, AND TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY CAN'T BE SOLVED, THAT WE CAN GET VARIANCES FOR THEM. UH, UH, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S ANTICIPATE WHAT WE'RE CALLING A HUNDRED PERCENT SUBMITTAL, UM, IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET APPROVAL AND GET THE PROJECT, UH, OUT TO BID. AND WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, ME TOO. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ AND COMMISSIONER BOND. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, WHAT ARE THE REMAINING CRITICAL [01:40:01] PATHS BETWEEN NOW AND BREAKING GROUNDS IN JULY OF THIS YEAR? WE ARE PREPARING THE INVITATION OF BID PACKAGE THAT SHOULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. MM-HMM . SO THAT WE CAN HIRE THE CONTRACTOR AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION THIS SUMMER. UM, CAN, DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE COMMITTING TO START CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN THAT WINDOW OF JULY, IN THAT JULY, 2026 THIS SUMMER? IT DEPENDS REALLY ON WHEN THE COMMISSION AWARDS THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE THE 45 DAY BID PERIOD, THEN THE PREPARATION AND THE, THE AWARDS OF APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY-ISH, IT SHOULD BE AWARDED. AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA DO THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION STUFF. SO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WILL BE THIS SUMMER, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE LATE THIS SUMMER. LATE THIS SUMMER. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR, UM, MESSAGING, UM, TO THE BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, UH, FOR THEIR, FOR, FOR THEIR, UH, BUSINESS. I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT HAS WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE WEST AVENUE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING, UH, BIWEEKLY ZOOMS AND THEN BIWEEKLY ON THE GROUND MEETINGS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IMPACTED BY THE WORK. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE BUSINESSES, COULD WE INCORPORATE THOSE REGULAR UPDATES AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, HAVING A BIWEEKLY, UH, MEETING, UH, WITH THE INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE CORRIDOR ON ZOOM TO TELL THEM, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOR THIS WEEK. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOR NEXT WEEK. WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE FOR YOU SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE CONDITIONS FOR YOU. ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE BIWEEKLY WALKTHROUGHS WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS IN WEST AVENUE, AND I THINK THAT'S A VALUABLE LESSON LEARNED FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND, AND OTHERS IN THE CITY WHERE THAT LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION, I I, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED IS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH WE EXPLAIN THINGS, IF THE RESIDENTS DON'T ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT DOESN'T REALLY REGISTER. SO I, I THINK THOSE WALKTHROUGHS ARE INVALUABLE. SURE. AND WE WILL DEFINITELY INCORPORATE THOSE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLAN, UM, THAT THE PLAN THAT HAS TO HAPPEN FOR, FOR THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD IS INEVITABLY THE REMOVAL OF SOME ON STREET PARKING MM-HMM . UM, TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS GOOD. WE WANT WIDER SIDEWALKS. THERE IS A LOT OF PEDESTRIANISM ON THAT ROAD, BUT THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA ALSO DO DEPEND ON, ON THE PARKING. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE ABSORB THAT NET LOSS OF PARKING IN THE, IN THE AREA? , THE TOTAL PARKING LOSS IS EIGHT SPACES ON THE CORRIDOR. UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY TO MITIGATE THAT WITHIN THE CORRIDOR. UM, THERE ARE SOME, AS YOU KNOW, SOME CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT THAT, THAT ARE RIGHT BEHIND, UM, OR JUST TO THE NORTH OF 41ST STREET THAT OBVIOUSLY CAN PICK UP THOSE SPACES. THERE'S EIGHT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IT. EIGHT TOTAL SPACES ARE BEING OUT. HOW MANY? THERE'S 54 EXISTING. WE'RE LOSING EIGHT OF THEM. AND IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE RECOUPING IN OTHER PLACES, OR, OR IS THIS THROUGH BECAUSE I, AT SOME POINT THERE WAS A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT PARKING LOSS. WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THROUGH NARROWING OUR DESIGN OPTIONS, WE'VE, WE'VE CUT THAT BACK. A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH SOME OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTS THAT INCLUDED MUCH WIDER MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS, UM, WHICH DOT DID NOT ALLOW US TO DO. SO WE HAD TO CUT THAT BACK AND THAT PICKED UP SOME OF THE SPACES. OKAY. UM, WE PASSED LEGISLATION AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING REGARDING WAY FINDING, UH, FOR BUSINESSES AND GARAGES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. UM, WHO, WHO IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT? IS THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT? IS THAT CIP WHO IS GOING TO BE TAKING THE LEAD ON? THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE CIP WITH COMMUNICATIONS IN VERY CLOSE COORDINATION WITH BOTH THE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE 41ST STREET BID. OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANISM AND THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS IN THIS CORRIDOR. IT, THAT, THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE TOP PRIORITY. MM-HMM . UM, HOW DOES THIS DESIGN IMPROVE NIGHTTIME SAFETY AND VISIBILITY FOR PEDESTRIANS? AND, AND, AND AGAIN, REALIZING THIS IS A HEAVILY JEWISH NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ORTHODOX, UH, JEWISH RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA. THEY WALK IN CHAZ, UH, THEY WALK, UM, AFTER DINNER ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND AFTER ATTENDING SERVICES. AND SO ENSURING THE SAFETY NIGHTTIME SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA IS, IS IMPORTANT EVERYWHERE, BUT ESPECIALLY HERE. UM, SO HOW DOES THIS DESIGN IMPROVE [01:45:01] NIGHTTIME SAFETY? YOU MEAN DURING CONSTRUCTION OR AFTER WE'RE DONE BOTH PHASES. OKAY. DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE'VE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO CONSTRUCT IT, AND THAT WON'T BE FINALIZED UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD. RIGHT NOW, THE PROPOSALS, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON ONE BLOCK AT A TIME, ONE SIDE AT A TIME. WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS UTILIZE EITHER THE PARKING LANE OR ONE OF THE TRAVEL LANES FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WHILE WE WORK ON THE SIDEWALKS. SO WE'LL SEPARATE THE PEDESTRIANS FROM TRAFFIC SO THAT THERE IS CONSTANT ACCESS TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO, TO TRAVEL EAST WEST ON THE SIDEWALKS. UM, AND WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN, ONE BLOCK AT A TIME, ONE SIDE AT A TIME. UH, AND WE'VE, OUR, WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING THAT WITH, UH, DOT AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND, AND OUR DESIGN TEAM TO GET THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE BID SET. AS FAR AS THE FINAL CONDITION AND IMPROVEMENTS TO SAFETY, I'LL LET JEFF ADDRESS THAT. WELL, AS FAR AS, UH, DESIGN ELEMENTS INTO THE PROJECT, UH, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING IS THE LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE BASE SCOPE, THAT THE LIGHTING WILL BE ALL BRAND NEW FOR THE PROJECT. UM, AND THAT'S IN IT OVER AND ABOVE THE, UH, COBRA HEAD LIGHTING THAT IS TRADITIONAL AS PART OF THE ROADWAY THAT IS STAYING IN PLACE. BUT THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING HAS BEEN UP UPGRADED, UH, THE REGULAR POLE MOUNTED POLES. UM, ALL OF THE RAMPS IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN UPGRADED FOR A DA PURPOSES SO THAT THE RAMPS ARE, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY ALIGNED WITH THE CROSSWALKS. UM, THERE ARE, UH, SOME OF THE SIDEWALK FURNITURE IS PLACED IN SUCH A WAY THAT CREATES A SEPARATION FROM PEDESTRIANS IN THE ROADWAY SO THAT THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, A SEPARATOR BETWEEN THEM AND THE, AND THE MOVING VEHICLES, UH, KEEPING THE, THE PARKING IN PLACE ALSO HELPS IN THAT REGARD SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STATIC CAR IN BETWEEN A MOVING CAR AND PEDESTRIAN ELEMENTS. UH, SO YOU KNOW, LARGELY THAT, THAT THOSE ARE PROBABLY ELEMENTS THAT ARE HAVING THE BEST. AND THOSE, AND THOSE FURNITURE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THERE, UH, IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, UH, CAN, CAN THOSE FUNCTION AS BOLLARDS, UH, TO PROTECT PEDESTRIANS TO PROTECT BUSINESSES, THEY WILL FUNCTION AS BOLLARDS. OKAY. HAS THIS PLAN BEEN REVIEWED, THE DESIGN BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS? UH, YES. YES. WE, WE'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT COORDINATION OBVIOUSLY IS ONGOING. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. THEY, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED BECAUSE PART OF THE SCOPE IS ALSO THEY'RE PUTTING IN LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS AS WELL. AND, AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT COMMISSIONER BOD HOPEFULLY YOU'LL TOUCH ON ARE YOUR, IS YOUR BLUE LIGHTS, WHICH YOU HAD AN ITEM ABOUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AND I THOUGHT WAS GREAT. SO I'M GONNA PASS IT OFF TO YOU. UM, SO, UM, THE BLUE LIGHTS HAS NOT COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION YET, SO WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT YET. BUT, UM, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANNA SEE ON 41ST STREET PRECISELY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T USE THEIR CELL PHONES, UM, FOR A DAY AND A HALF AT LEAST, UM, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE OPTIONS FOR SECURITY. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA TAKE A LOOK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO POLICE OR HAVE A CHAT WITH THEM ABOUT WHERE THEY WOULD BE INSTALLED BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR, BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO NOT INSTALL THEM IF, IF UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T PASS, BUT PRESUMING IT WILL PASS, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE AN ADD-ON AFTER THE FACT FIX. UM, OKAY. ANOTHER COUPLE OF THOUGHTS I HAVE ABOUT THIS. UM, AS WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO EMBRACE MICRO MOBILITY, BIKES ARE STILL ALLOWED ON, ON, UM, SIDEWALKS AND WILL REMAIN ALLOWED ON SIDEWALKS. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THESE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE PLAZAS WITH, UM, WITH FURNITURE AND, AND, AND PERGOLAS. UM, ALSO THERE'S A CLEAR SHOT SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRAVERSING THE BLOCKS DON'T HAVE TO NAVIGATE POLES AND FURNITURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT UNSAFE FOR EVERYBODY. YEAH. THE CLEAR PASSAGE WITH IS, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET THROUGH MOST OF THE CORRIDOR, THERE ARE SOME PINCH POINTS THAT ARE JUST INHERENT IN THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE THAT WE CAN'T GET BY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANCES ACTUALLY, THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM DOT BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANT A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FEET, BUT WE'LL ALLOW DOWN TO SIX. UM, THERE ARE A FEW PLACES THAT ARE NARROWER THAN SIX, BUT IT'S JUST, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET, WELL, SIX IS ALREADY MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, UM, WE'LL TAKE SIX. UM, THIS, UM, RENDERING HERE OF THIS PLAZA, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, IN NORTH BEACH WHEN THEY TOOK AWAY, IT WAS COMMISSIONER ARIEL'S INITIATIVE. AND IT, IT'S BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS WHEN THE HANDFUL OF PARKING SPOTS WERE ELIMINATED AT THE NORMANDY PLAZA, UM, AND IT WAS, UH, PEDESTRIANIZED, IT HAS BECOME A SITE OF VERY, [01:50:01] UH, INTENSE ACTIVATION IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY. IT'S AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, OFTEN MORE THAN THAT, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF THE YEAR. AND, UM, NOW WE ARE FINDING THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE IS INCREASED SHADE. SO RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY NEW SHADE STRUCTURES. UM, IF THERE'S A WAY TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK JUST AT THIS PARTICULAR PLAZA AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE TREES, UM, SHADE TREES HERE AS, AS AN OPTION. I MEAN, THE MORE GREEN, THE BETTER FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. UM, IF TREES DON'T WORK FOR WHATEVER REASON, INCORPORATING SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL PERGOLAS WHERE YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, POROUS SHADE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING, UM, BECAUSE IT COULD BECOME ANOTHER SPOT OF COMMUNITY ACTIVATION, UM, WHICH HAS REALLY BEEN INCREDIBLY BENEFICIAL TO NORTH BEACH. AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY MID BEACH SHOULDN'T HAVE A, HAVE THE SAME, UH, OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, THIS WAS MY MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR 13 YEARS HERE, SO I, I'M THRILLED TO SEE THIS FINALLY COME TO PASS. UM, I WILL ALSO SAY, WHAT WAS THE LAST THING I WAS GONNA SAY ABOUT THIS? OH, UM, WHEN YOU'RE, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE DOING A BLOCK AT A TIME. ALTERNATE STREETS, ALTERNATE SIDES AT A TIME. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE BRIDGE, THE 41ST STREET BRIDGE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE BY FDOT, THEY DID NOT DO A GREAT JOB OF SECURING THE MACHINERY AND SORT OF KEEPING THAT CLOSED OFF. SO PEDESTRIANS WERE WALKING IN THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC AS OPPOSED TO GOING ACROSS THE STREET. UM, IT GOT A LITTLE BIT NASTY BETWEEN SOME RESIDENTS FROM THE MID BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND FDOT. UM, WE FINALLY, WE, THE CITY FINALLY HAD TO INTERCEDE. I WORKED WITH MBNA AND, AND JOHN NORTH, AND WE GOT FDOT TO REALLY SECURE THAT PROPERLY. SO NOW, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL SOME KNUCKLEHEADS WHO WILL WALK INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. YOU CAN'T PICK STUPID, BUT THE POINT IN RAISING THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE BLOCKING OFF THE STREETS OR THE, THE SEGMENT OF THE STREET, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT IS REALLY SECURE. UM, AND THAT IT'S NOT SORT OF HALF-ASSED BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAVE AN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUM UH, CONSEQUENCES. AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS, AND I, NOBODY WANTS TO DELAY THIS, BUT REMEMBER THAT SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLIDAYS. UM, SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT WALKING, UM, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY SERIOUS TIME OF YEAR FOR JEWISH HOLIDAYS. AND THEN WE GO INTO ART BASEL AND TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE A MAJOR CONCERN. SO I, I WOULD SAY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET DONE BEFORE THAT, AND THEN MAYBE AGAIN IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN PAUSE FOR, YOU KNOW, UNTIL AFTER OUR BASEL, UM, OUR, OUR MOT PLAN CALLS FOR REMOVAL OF, UH, MOT DURING HIGH IMPACT WEEKENDS AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND, AND RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. COMMISSIONER BI THINK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP, I REMEMBER WHEN I WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHORN, UM, THAT IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS SHE ALWAYS CHAMPIONED WAS MAKING SURE THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, UM, WERE STOPPED DURING THE HIGH, DURING THE HIGH HOLIDAYS. UH, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE WALKING, UH, AROUND THE AREA ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. YEAH. SO I'LL, I'D MAKE THAT MOTION TO SECOND TO, UM, FOR THE HIGH HOLY DAYS AND OUR BASEL. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD ALSO MENTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS REVITALIZATION OF 41ST STREET THAT HAS LONG BEEN DELAYED, BUT IT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE COMING TO FRUITION. AND HOPEFULLY WHAT IT DOES IS THAT IT BRINGS 41ST STREET BACK TO LIFE. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS REVITALIZATION, ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S GOING, I, I LIKE, I CAN FORESEE IT AS IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL. THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEMAND FOR PARKING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT NOW, UH, MADAM MANAGER AND MISS AND MR. DIRECTOR, I THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THIS CORRIDOR WHERE WE CAN INCREASE OUR PARKING SUPPLY? UM, BECAUSE I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME INTO THIS CORRIDOR. PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA JUST ATTRACT PEOPLE TO, TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEMAND FOR PARKING. AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT, AND WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THAT. HOW DO WE LOOK AT INCREASING THE PARKING INVENTORY OF THIS? SO TO THAT POINT, IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE FIRST DO A SURVEY OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE PARKING LOTS ALL ALONG 40, UH, 42ND STREET, AND BEHIND A LOT OF THE, WE HAVE A LOT OF [01:55:01] PARKING LOTS AND, AND WE, AND BEHIND THE, UM, THE NORTHERN SIDE, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PARKING LOTS AND WE HAVE AN INTERIOR PARKING GARAGE. SO CAN WE FIRST DO A SURVEY OF WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, BECAUSE MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, AND THAT'S A VERY REAL QUESTION, BUT MAYBE WE HAVE A LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO PARK THERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CHARGE RESIDENT RATES OR BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IT'S GATED OFF. SO LET'S, I THINK TODAY, UNDER TODAY'S CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A, A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE MOST FLOURISHING ENVIRONMENT. I THINK THE IDEA IS TO, YOU KNOW, PLAN AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, ONCE WE REVITALIZE THIS, ONCE THIS BECOMES A DESTINATION BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME A DESTINATION, BUSINESSES WILL WANT TO COME HERE. WELL THEN HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE FOR, FOR THAT ADDED TRAFFIC THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME? BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE EXACTLY. AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE GOING FORWARD. YEAH, I MEAN, JUST LOOKING ON THE MAP, WE HAVE A HUGE PARKING LOT, 63, AND THEN WE HAVE AN INDOOR GROUP, A SHADED PARKING GARAGE. I THINK THAT'S LIKE THREE STORIES, THAT'S MORE, UH, OR FOUR. AND THEN ALSO ON THE NORTH SIDE, ALSO THE NEW BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT, HAVE THEY BUILT EXCESS PARKING? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED UP IN NORTH BEACH. SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILDING MORE PARKING SPOTS THAN THEY NEED FOR THEIR RESIDENCE. AND THERE'S ALSO A BUNCH OF SURFACE LOT PARKING ON, ON ALONG 40TH STREET AS WELL, ON THE SOUTH SIDE. MM-HMM . UM, SO YEAH, LET'S FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE HAVE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE MANDATE MORE PARKING. ALRIGHT. I NEED TO EXCUSE MYSELF. EXCUSED. YES. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA MOVE THIS ITEM? YEAH. UH, WITH THE, WITH WITH THE PROPOSALS, UH, THAT WE PUT FORWARD, THE WEEKLY, THE BIWEEKLY, UH, ZOOMS, THE BIWEEKLY WALKTHROUGHS. I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO DO IN THIS PROJECT, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER BOT MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THE BLUE LIGHTS, LIGHTS AND THE, UH, AND THE HOLIDAYS, THE RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE JUST FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THINKING WHAT WILL BE OUR PARKING NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. UH, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE ITEM A SECOND. AND THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT, YOU HAD A COMMENT ALSO ABOUT SHADE TREES AND SHADE AND SHADE TREES OR STRUCTURES, WHATEVER WE, SO THIS, THIS ITEM WILL BE CONCLUDED FROM THE LAND USE AGENDA, AND THEN YOU'LL JUST IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOT, DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA TALK WESTLAW OR YOU WANT TO? SURE. OKAY. SO, UM, TOM, IF WE CAN CALL ITEMS [5. DISCUSS DEVELOPING ALL OF THE WEST LOTS LYING ALONG COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 79TH STREET AND 87TH STREET INTO A PLANNED CITY PARK IN NORTH BEACH.] [14. DISCUSS FUTURE PROGRAMMING OF WEST LOTS] 14 AND FIVE, 'CAUSE SEEM THEY SEEM PRETTY SIMILAR. OKAY. UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS DISCUSS DEVELOPING ALL OF THE WEST LOTS LYING ALONG COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 79TH STREET AND 87TH STREET INTO A PLANNED CITY PARK IN NORTH BEACH. AND ITEM NUMBER 14 IS DISCUSSED, THE FUTURE PROGRAMMING OF THE WEST COAST. OKAY. YEAH, I'M SICK, BUT, UM, OKAY. THANK YOU TOM. SO THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND THIS FOR YEARS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH WEST LOTS. THE, I THINK UNIVERSALLY THE GOAL IS TO NOT LET THEM GET DEVELOPED. NOBODY WANTS TO SEE A HIGH RISE THERE, EVEN IT'S FOR, EVEN IF IT'S FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE IDEA IS TO REALLY PROTECT THAT GREEN SPACE. AND OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE HAD INITIATIVES THAT HAVE COME TO THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED TO ACTIVATE IT WITH A MONTHLY FAMILY DAY, WHICH IS VERY WELL ATTENDED AND, AND FUN AND COOL. UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIFYING IT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ACTIVATIONS THERE MORE EASILY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A BIKE BOULEVARD AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THE WEST LOTS. UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW TO MAKE THEM MORE USABLE IN THEIR ENTIRETY. AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST RIP THE BANDAID OFF AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGGREGATE OF THE SEVEN OR EIGHT LOTS THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THOSE WHICH, UM, HAVE FUNCTIONAL PURPOSES RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT THE PARKING THAT EXISTS THERE AND LOOK AT THE CROSS STREETS THAT EXIST THERE AND SAY, OKAY, WITH THIS ENTIRETY, HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THE UNPLEASANT IMPACTS OF THE NECESSARY SERVICES? HOW DO WE MAKE THEM MORE ATTRACTIVE? HOW DO WE MAKE THEM MORE, YOU KNOW, ERGONOMICALLY FIT THEM, FIT THEM INTO, UM, NOT ERGONOMICALLY, BUT AESTHETICALLY FIT THEM INTO THE SPACE BETTER? AND HOW DO WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE? WE DO NOT NEED CROSS STREETS AT EVERY JUNCTURE. THOSE ARE ALMOST NEVER UTILIZED. AND IF WE HAVE TWO OR THREE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN, UM, PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH TO COLLINS JUST AS EASILY. UM, A LOT OF THAT PARKING IS NOT USED DURING THE WEEK. IT'S USED, UM, MOSTLY FOR WEEKEND BEACH ACCESS. UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PARKING COMING ONLINE WITH THE 72ND STREET COMPLEX WITH THE VILLE. UM, WE CAN RUN SHUTTLES ON THE WEEKEND IF WE NEED TO. [02:00:01] THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER BEACH RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM US ALL OVER WITH MASSIVE PARKING LOTS. UM, SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE LOOK AT THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TRANSFORMATION FROM THE BAY SHORE PAR THREE TO THE BAY SHORE PARK IS SPECTACULAR, AND THE, THE FIRST ACTIVISM I WAS INVOLVED WITH WAS WHEN I WAS ON THE BAY SHORE HOA AND IT WAS A 30 YEAR FIGHT TO GET THOSE, THAT LAND TO BE PROPERLY MOVED FORWARD INTO THE PARK THAT HAD BEEN ENVISIONED. AND SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING SOMETHING AT THAT SCALE, BUT I AM SUGGESTING TAKING THAT MINDSET TO THESE PROPERTIES. UM, AND IMAGINING WHAT WE COULD DO IF THERE WERE VERY FEW RESTRICTIONS. UM, THE, THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER SUAREZ HAS IDENTIFIED IN HIS ITEM WHERE WE POLL THE RESIDENTS. UM, AND, UM, WE KNOW FROM TALKING TO THEM AT THESE EVENTS THAT, THAT THERE IS INTEREST IN DOING A VERY COMPATIBLE WITH A MOSTLY PASSIVE PARK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO, TO START THIS CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT $5 MILLION IN THE GEO BONDS TO START THIS PROCESS. UM, WE DO NOT NEED TO BUILD IT THIS YEAR. WE NEED TO EVALUATE AND PROPOSE A DESIGN. UM, AND I THINK WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT. THE CRA HAS FUNDS THAT, UM, COULD COVER PART OF THIS AS WELL. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS BEING A $30 MILLION PARK LIKE BAYSHORE WAS, OR WHATEVER THE FINAL NUMBER WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT. UM, BUT I DO THINK WE CAN DO BETTER FOR OUR NORTH SHORE RESIDENTS THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED, THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF GRAVEL. UM, LET'S KEEP THE STUFF THAT'S WORKING, LET'S EXPAND THE SKATE PARK. UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S KEEP WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THERE, BUT LET'S MAKE IT A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AMENITY THAT, THAT KIND OF IS A COUNTERPOINT AND FLOWS INTO, UM, THE VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF PARK THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH, I I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. I MEAN, YOU FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF JUST DRIVE BY THERE AND SEE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS RIGHT? LIKE WHAT IT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL. UM, I'M GONNA BE AGAINST OBVIOUSLY ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THERE, BUT I'M CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE JUST A REPLICA OF THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET. NO, I DON'T EITHER. THAT'S, I THINK WE DISCUSSED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THIS, BUT HAVING A REAL SOCCER FIELD, UM, ON ONE OF THE LOTS, UH, A STANDARD SOCCER, THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE, THE LOTS ARE TOO SMALL, BUT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY REMOVING SOME MICRO, MICRO SOCCER FIELDS. I THINK WHAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED WAS POSSIBLY, UM, MAYBE, I THINK THERE WAS, UH, WHICH LOT IS IT? I THINK IT'S ON 85TH, WHERE THERE'S SORT OF PARKING THAT ENCROACHES ON THE BACKSIDE. AND IF WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT, JUST A LITTLE BIT WIDER, UH, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT. I DON'T, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION? I DO. I HAVE SOME IMAGES THAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY FOR THIS CONVERSATION WHERE WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT SOME THINGS WE SPOKE ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO BRING 'EM UP ON THE SCREEN. YEAH, SURE. OKAY. YES, PLEASE. AND, UM, AS WE, WE GO THROUGH THESE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TOOK THE MINDSET OF WE HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE PARK ACROSS THE STREET. SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT MORE ACTIVE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ACTIVE. WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME ACTIVE, UM, OPTIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE WEST LOTS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO, WHO DON'T KNOW THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S EIGHT INDIVIDUAL LOTS. UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT'S THERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PARKING, THERE'S OCEAN RESCUE, THE O LOCK CABIN SITE, THE SKATE PARK. WE HAVE A COMPOSTING, UM, SITE AND, AND, AND PARKING. UM, AND THEN, SO THERE'S ONLY ONE LOT RIGHT NOW THAT IS PART OF THE PARKS, THE DEPARTMENT INVENTORY. AND THAT IS THE LOT OF 87 80 SECOND STREET WHERE THE, WHERE THE EXISTING SKATE PARK IS AND WHERE THERE'S A FUTURE PROPOSED GOB SKATE PARK OR PUMP TRACK EXPANSION. UM, AND THERE'S A LITTLE PICTURE, UM, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S DONE. THE P THE PUMP TRACK WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT. UM, AND THERE'S A VISUAL FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A PUMP TRACK IS, UM, THAT THAT'S WHAT'S JOHN A PUMP TRACK IS THAT'S, THEY CALL IT PUMP TRACK OR AN ALL WHEELS TRACK. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WHAT? THEY HAVE A SMALL ONE AT HAULOVER. YEAH. IT'S WHERE YOU COULD TAKE YOUR SCOOTER, YOUR, YOUR SKATEBOARD, YOUR ALL YOUR SKATEBOARD, YOUR, YOUR CHILDREN'S BICYCLE'S, NOT JUST FOR SKATING. UM, OR, AND I KNOW THIS IS GOB, BUT WE WERE TOLD, YOU KNOW, IT JUST LOOK LIKE THERE'S NO RULES. IF THEY WANTED TO RETHINK THE SKATE PARK COULD GO WITH PICKLEBALL. PICKLEBALL IS HOT. SIX COURTS WOULD FIT ON THAT. THAT'S, UM, SECOND HALF OF THE LOT. BUT SO WHY ARE YOU ONLY LIMITED TO ONE LOT? I'M, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO GO. WE SAY RIGHT NOW IS, THERE'S EIGHT LOTS. ONE LOT IS UNDER THE PARKS OF RECREATION INVENTORY. THE REST ARE JUST GOVERNMENT CITY LOTS BECAUSE IT, IT CAN, IT CAN TO THE EIGHT LOTS, BUT CURRENTLY THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT [02:05:01] IT JUST, OKAY, I JUST WANNA, WE'RE ALL EIGHT LOTS. YEAH. IF WE, IF WE WANT TO, SO LOCATION ONE, IS THIS STILL WHERE THE POSSIBILITY OF WHERE THAT SKATE PARK WOULD BE? MM-HMM . YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T, I'D LOVE TO EXPAND THAT SKATE PARK AND HAVE THAT PUMP TRACK AND THEN ALSO HAVE THE PICKLE BALL COURT. I'LL BE ON ANOTHER LOT. YEP. I'M GONNA KEEP GOING. OKAY. SO THEN, UM, THEN I'LL, ON 85TH, FIFTH STREET, WE'RE GOING OFF THE SURVEY. NO, NOT JUST HAVE OPEN SPACE, BUT HAVE ACTIVATION SPACE. SO MAYBE FARMER'S MARKET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WANNA JUST UPDATE YOU ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S HASN'T BEEN CALLED YET IN NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE HAVE A VERY AMAZING FARMER'S MARKET THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED, THAT IS GONNA BE IN THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S GONNA BE TRANSFORMATIVE. SO, UM, THAT IS A SPOT NOW, UH, 85TH STREET THAT CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A MARKET. YES, YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, ANOTHER THING WE COULD ALSO FITS IN COURT, YOU SEE WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH AND YOU, MAYBE WE CAN'T, YOU HAVE THAT ALLEY THERE AND THERE'S PARKING. I GUESS WE CAN CLOSE IT OR DO SOMETHING THERE, MOVE UTILITY LINES. BUT WE STAYED WITHIN THE CONFINES IT A LOT. AND WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, UM, AND AS COMMISSIONER BOT HAD MENTIONED, IT'S JUST NOT WIDE ENOUGH. EVEN IF WE CLOSE A STREET, IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO PUT A REGULATION SOCCER FIELD. SO IT'S GONNA FIT SMALL COURTS AND MICRO SOCCER FIELDS, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET TO THEN AT 86TH STREET. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE NOW WE START TO IMPLEMENT SOME SMALL SOCCER FIELDS, POTENTIALLY. WE DIDN'T MOVE ANY LARGE TREES IN ANYTHING THAT WE DID. SO WE WORKED AROUND ANY OF THE, UH, MATURE CANOPY PICKLEBALL, PADDLE MICRO SOCCER. NOW WE LOOKED AT CONTEMPLATED NETWORK PLANNING AND, AND, AND DISCUSSED WHICH TREATS COULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF WE WERE TO CLOSE THEM AND EXPAND. ALL THIS IS A QUICK LAYOVER. WE'RE STILL CONTEMPLATING THE FARMER'S MARKET, BUT NOW WE CAN APPROACH MORE. SO NOW YOU COULD LOOK, YOU COULD START GETTING FOUR, SIX OF THESE MICRO SOCCER FIELDS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, THE THREE ON THREE GAME. AND THE FIVE ON FIVE GAME IS A LOT OF FUN. AND, AND THE, AND THE PEOPLE LEARN A LOT OF SKILLS IN THAT TYPE OF GAME. UM, COMBINING THE LOTS, AGAIN, THIS IS WOOD PADEL, AND THEN THOSE, FOR THOSE WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T SEEN A PICKLEBALL COURT, WANNA GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF PICKLEBALL COURT AND A PADDLE COURT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WENT THROUGH QUICKLY. OKAY. SO I, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I LOOK, I THINK I LIKE PICKLEBALL AND PADDLE, BUT I THINK NORTH BEACH REALLY DESERVES A FULL SIZE SOCCER FIELD. IF WE CAN SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORK. I MEAN THE, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS THERE, I MEAN, JUST CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT A SOCCER FIELD. EVEN IN, UM, NORTH BAY VILLAGE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING LIKE A SOCCER, UM, CAMP OR A PROGRAM. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IT, I THINK IT'D BE THE WRONG MESSAGE IF WE JUST PUT A BUNCH OF PINEL COURTS THERE, OR PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND WHEN WE COULDN'T FIND THE WAY TO MAKE A FULL SIZE SOCCER FIELD, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT COULD WE DO TO REALLY HAVE A FULL SIZE SOCCER? 'CAUSE I THINK THE RESIDENTS WOULD LOVE THAT THERE. I DON'T THE KIDS THERE, YOU, THEY'LL LOVE IT. WE ONLY HAVE ONE IN THE CITY, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE. WE'LL MEASURE IT AGAIN, BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE, YOU NOT ONLY NEED THE WIDTH OF THE FIELD, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR BUFFER, YOUR BUFFER SITE. YOU HAD FENCING, NOW YOU'RE ON CALL. AND SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA NEED NETTING. YOU. IT'S, IT'S A TIGHT SPACE FOR A REGULATION FIELD. IF I MAY, I, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH THIS ITEM IS I WOULD LIKE TO, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE YOU'RE BRINGING VISUALS, TAKING SORT OF PIECES OF WHAT WE HAVE. UM, MY GOAL FOR THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE A UNIFIED, COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS. AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO ENGAGE SAVINA MILLER. THEY'VE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK IN THE CITY. UM, THEY, THEY REALLY HAVE A PASSION FOR MAKING EXCELLENT PUBLIC SPACES. AND I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM AND, AND HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW DO WE FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN ACTIVATING, FINDING POTENTIALLY A, A SOCCER FIELD SPACE. AND MAYBE THAT MEANS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CLOSE A STREET, MAYBE WE ALSO CLOSE AN ALLEY BEHIND. AND MAYBE WE ARE ABLE TO, IT MIGHT NOT BE REGULATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUFFER, BUT AT LEAST THE COURT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE BIGGER THAN THE SOCCER FIELD THAT WE HAVE ON NORMITY. RIGHT. WHICH DOESN'T, UU 12, YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT SITES, FIELDS, RIGHT? SO LIKE, I, WE CAN, I, I THINK THAT THE DIRECTION IS CLEAR. THAT IS AN IDEA. I'M, I'M LEERY OF PUTTING TOO MANY MANMADE SURFACES ON THIS COURT. I DON'T WANNA LOSE, UH, ON, ON THIS, UM, EIGHT BLOCKS. I DON'T WANNA LOSE ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I WANNA HAVE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS. HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO IN ITS ENTIRETY. HERE'S THE NUMBER OF STREETS WE'RE CLOSING, HERE'S WHERE WE CAN CLAW BACK A LITTLE BIT OF THE ALLEYS TO THE WEST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER. HERE'S, HERE'S SOME THINGS WE COULD DO. UM, AND, AND LOOK AT THIS AS A COMPLETE, UM, HOLISTIC [02:10:01] APPROACH TO PROGRAMMING THIS. AND ALSO CREATING, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, BAY SHORE IS PROGRAMMED. THERE'S A PLAYGROUND, THERE'S A PING PONG TABLE, THERE'S A RUNNING PATH, A RUNNING AND, AND WALKING PATH, A A BIKING PATH. THERE'S, UM, THERE ARE THE TENNIS COURTS IN THERE AND THEY STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN HAVING SOME ACTIVATIONS, UM, AND FACILITIES WITH HAVING ALSO THIS REALLY BEAUTIFUL PASSIVE PARK. SO I WANNA BRING THAT KIND OF LEVEL OF THOUGHTFULNESS TO IT. UM, I, I ALSO, UM, AM VERY MINDFUL THAT THESE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO BACK UP DIRECTLY ONTO THE WEST LOTS. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE PLAYING PICKLEBALL UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, OR EVEN 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. AND PADEL SOUNDS CARRY, THEY'RE DIFFERENT FROM PICKLEBALL SOUNDS. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT WHERE WE PLACE THE ACTIVE PARTS OF THIS, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT IN YOUR, IN YOUR OWN APARTMENT LISTENING TO PEOPLE PLAYING AT ALL HOURS OF DAY AND NIGHT. UM, AND I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU BUILD A PICKLEBALL COURT, THEY WILL COME AND THEY WILL STAY UNTIL YOU KICK THEM OFF. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT THIS TO BE A, LIKE A, A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE, HOLISTIC UNDERTAKING. YEP. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PARK MASTER PLAN. YES. WE'RE LIKE INCHING TOWARDS THAT. WE DID THIS EXERCISE AND NOW WE MAY RECEIVE, RECEIVE AND I, I JUST DON'T WANNA INCH TOWARDS IT ANYMORE. I JUST WANNA MOVE FORWARD. LIKE, LET'S GET GOING. LET'S, LET'S HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ROOM. LET'S GET PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PROVEN CHAMPIONS TO, TO UM, LOOK AT THIS WITH US AND COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, WHAT IS THIS FOR A REGULATORY SOCCER FIELD? WHAT IS THE DIS WHAT IS THE WIDTH AND LENGTH THAT YOU NEED? OH MY GOD, I'D, I, I'D HAVE TO SEARCH IT UP TO, TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE, IT'S, IT'S LARGER THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD. SLIGHTLY. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE LOT ON 87, BETWEEN 86TH AND 87TH. AND THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A PERFECT LOT FOR A, A SOCCER FIELD BECAUSE YOU HAVE STELLA MARIE, THOSE SENIORS WOULD LOVE TO GO JUST WATCH FOOTBALL, WATCH THE KIDS PLAY FOOTBALL AT THAT LOT. WELL, OF A SENIOR SOCCER LEAGUE. THAT'S REALLY, YEAH. OR A SOCCER PROGRAM THAT'S SO LET IT, SO LET'S PUT THAT INTO THE POT AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO YEAH. AS BIG AS POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I AGREE. WE, WE, WE DO NEED A HOLISTIC APPROACH ON, ON THIS. AND YOU KNOW, I I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA KEEP THE GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS WHY I LIKE THE SOCCER FIELD. 'CAUSE IT STAYS GREEN. PADEL COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS DON'T NECESSARILY, I MEAN THAT YOU'RE JUST ADDING CONCRETE, UM, TO THE FLOOR. UM, OKAY. SO I GUESS HOW DO WE SHORE THIS UP WITH, BECAUSE WE, IT'S BOTH ITEMS ARE THE SAME. DO YOU WANNA JUST WORK ON THIS TOGETHER, COMMISSIONER? SURE. LET'S JUST FOLD THEM IN TOGETHER. AND SO CAN WE MOVE THIS TOGETHER, COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN AND HOW DO WE, IF WE WANNA HAVE SABINA MILLER BRAINSTORM WITH US, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY WOULD BE THE PEOPLE TO BUILD IT. UM, BUT IS THAT A THING THAT WE CAN DO TO CONTRACT WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN? I MEAN, UM, I THINK ENGAGING WITH THEM DIRECTLY WOULD, WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE A WAIVER OF, OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING. UM, I THINK THE CONSENSUS, SHE'S JUST, SHE'S JUST ASKING IF WE CAN TALK TO THEM. YEAH. NOT NECESSARILY PUT 'EM ON PAYROLL. THE ADMINISTRATION COULD, COULD TALK TO THEM. UM, I THINK CONSENSUS IS DEFINITELY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PARK MASTER PLAN THE WAY THAT, UH, THAT JOHN LAID OUT. UM, AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO REACH OUT TO SABINO MILLER, BUT ALSO LOOK AT, UH, WHAT PROCUREMENT OPTIONS THERE WOULD BE? AND I, YEAH. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING A WAIVER FOR THEM. I MEAN, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BOTT, HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA SORT OF BE TOGETHER ON THIS, HOW ABOUT WE DO A TOWN HALL ALSO, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE SABINA MILLER ALSO PRESENT AFTER WE, WE, WE MEET WITH THEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO A TOWN HALL ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ENGAGE WITH SOMEBODY WHO CAN, CAN PUT TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN FIRST. 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD TWO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AT THE, AT THE EVENTS. SO I THINK FOR SURE DO A COMMUNITY MEETING. SO ARE WE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE WITH THIS DESIGN FIRM JUST AS A ADVISORY ROLE? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT STAFF REACH OUT TO THEM FIRST AND THEN, UH, AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION CAN, CAN REPORT BACK. BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP. BUT COULD BE, COULD WE ALSO BE PRESENT? SURE. YOU HAVE TO BE ASSUMPTION. I MEAN, I DO OR NOT. IT'S, IT'S, SO, UM, THE NEXT LAND USE MEETING IS WHEN NEXT WEEK THERE'S, UH, THERE IS A [02:15:01] MEETING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 1ST, UH, WHICH IS A WEEK FROM TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANY UPDATES BY NEXT WEDNESDAY. I MEAN, COULD YOU PUT IN AN INITIAL PHONE CALL TO SAVINA MILLER AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY? I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FRIENDS OF MINE. THEY'RE NEIGHBORS FROM, YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN THEM FOR 20 YEARS. UM, AND I MENTIONED THIS TO THEM, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN SO, UM, INCREDIBLY FORESIGHTED IN THE VISION THEY HAD FOR THE BAYSHORE PARK. AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU HARNESS THAT? HOW DO YOU BRING THAT IN TO THE CONVERSATION? NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO DO IT, BUT TO, SO LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE. COME UP WITH A VISION. LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE A WEEK FROM TOMORROW. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE EAGER TO GET YEAH'S DEFINITELY OPEN OUR CONVERSATION. WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH BOTH OF THEM. YEAH. GREAT. WE, OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN. UM, SO, SO THE INTENT WOULD BE TO COME BACK WITH THEM TO FURTHER HAVE A, A SECOND DISCUSSION ABOUT, I THINK IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION. A DISCUSSION. YEAH. JUST THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. NOTHING. AND, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE FURTHER WORK ON WHICH STREETS WE CAN CLOSE AND CAN WE ACTUALLY TAKE OVER THE ALLEY BEHIND, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE WEST LOTS AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRACTICAL INFORMATION. I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON STREETS AFTER TOM AND I SPOKE A WHILE BACK. UM, I DID NOT LOOK AT THE ALLEY, BUT I CAN, I I EVEN THINK SOME OF THOSE ALLEYS THAT THERE'S PARKING AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE PARKING, RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. OUR PARKING DIRECTOR'S NOT HERE, BUT IT'S LIKE GRAVEL AND YEAH, THEY'VE KEPT IT THAT WAY 'CAUSE IT'S SORT OF IN THIS GRAY AREA. SO, UM, MAYBE YOU COULD TALK TO JOHN WILL OR WILL. SORRY. WILL YOU GUYS, I I, I KNOW NOT TO BE DOWNER AFTER SUCH AN EXCITING CONVERSATION, BUT I DO HAVE, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE CONCERNS OF WHAT DO WE DO FOR TEMPORARY PARKING WHEN 72ND STREET CLOSED DOWN. OKAY. SO THE DIRECTION IS TO ENGAGE WITH THE DESIGNERS JUST TO COME HERE FOR A DISCUSSION. AND YOU GUYS WILL REACH OUT. YEAH. AND MR. CHAIR, CAN I JUST, UH, SAY SOMETHING? UM, SAVINO MILLER IS ON THE CITY'S ROTATIONAL LIST AS A VENDOR, UM, FOR LANDSCAPING. PERFECT. SO DOES THAT, SO THAT MEANS WE CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM. GREAT. PERFECT. OKAY. PROBLEM SOLVED WITHOUT A BID WAIVER. . OKAY. LET'S, LET'S GET IT GOING. YEAH, WE HAD ONE CALL ON ZOOM, BUT SURE. NOT ANYMORE. LET'S HEAR. I THINK THE HAND IS DOWN. SORRY. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THIS ALONG WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER BOB. SO WE'RE GONNA COMBINE THE TWO ITEMS INTO, AND WE'LL, AND WE WILL BRING THIS BACK NEXT WEDNESDAY FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. GREAT. UM, BEFORE WE END OFF, GREG, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, A PUBLIC COMMENT. I PROMISED HIM I, I'D LET HIM, UH, THANK YOU. SPEAK. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES, MAN. YEAH. THANK, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. UM, SO IT'S VERY NICE YOU'RE GONNA DO ALL THAT WITH THE PARKS, BUT I, I REALLY MUST BRING ATTENTION TO, UH, A MASSIVE PROBLEM THAT'S REALLY GETTING ZERO ATTENTION. AND THAT IS, UM, THE DRINKING WATER IN MIAMI BEACH, WHICH COMES FROM MIAMI DADE, LITERALLY COMES FROM A SUPER FUN SITE, WHICH IS THE AIRPORT. IF I COULD HAVE ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I'M ABSOLUTELY, IT'S A CANCER CAUSING CHEMICAL FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. UM, THIS IS GETTING BASICALLY ZERO ATTENTION. I BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE NOTHING'S GONNA BE DONE ABOUT IT. SO I MET WITH THE, UM, HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE HEAD SUSTAINABILITY PERSON HERE. THEY GENERALLY HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING ANYTHING. THEIR EXCUSE IS THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE EPA AND THE EPA GIVES 'EM FIVE YEARS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CHEMICAL CALLED PFAS. WHAT THE EPA DOES NOT TELL THEM TO DO IS ADVERTISE THE WATER AND THE WATER QUALITY REPORT AS SAFE AND EXCELLENT. UM, SO THE LEVEL THAT THE EPA SETS IS SAFE, UH, IS 0.04 PARTS PER TRILLION. THAT'S LIKE A, A STANDARD FOR CONTAMINATION. AND THE LEVEL THAT'S GONNA BECOME ENFORCEABLE, UH, IN 2029 IS FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION. THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE THE DETECTION LIMIT. AND THAT MAY CHANGE WHATEVER, UH, THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE SERVING TO KIDS AND TELLING THEIR PARENTS THAT THE WATER IS SAFE AND EXCELLENT IS 30 PARTS PER TRILLION. SO THAT'S OVER A THOUSAND TIMES WHAT THE EPA SAYS IS SAFE. AND, UH, IS MORE THAN SEVEN TIMES WHAT WILL BE THE ENFORCEABLE DETECTION LIMIT IN 2029. AGAIN, THEY SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE EPA FINE. YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ARE IN, IN, IN THOSE LEVELS. BUT THE EPAS NOT TELLING YOU TO TELL PARENTS AND KIDS THAT THE WATER'S SAFE AND EXCELLENT. AND IT LITERALLY SAYS THAT IN THE WATER REPORT. THIS IS A CANCER CAUSING CHEMICAL GUYS. UH, I'M, MY BACKGROUND IS AN, AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER THAT SPECIALIZES IN THIS, UH, NICK, [02:20:01] UM, I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYERS ON YOUR STAFF. UM, I I, IF I COULD JUST HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE. SURE. UM, I, I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH, UH, UH, THE MAYOR OF MIAMI-DADE ABOUT THIS GENERALLY SAME RESPONSE WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE EPA FINE. YOU, YOU HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS, BUT THEY'RE NOT TELLING YOU TO ADVERTISE IT AS SAFE AND EXCELLENT. LITERALLY LIKE THIS IS A CANCER CAUSING CHEMICAL. THAT'S A THOUSAND TIMES THE LEVEL THE EPA SAYS IT'S SAFE. AND IF IT WAS SAFE AND EXCELLENT, WHY IS MIAMI-DADE SUING 3M FOR $200 MILLION? THIS IS THE THIRD BIGGEST SETTLEMENT AFTER CIGARETTES AND OPIOIDS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS CHEMICAL, UM, I, I HIGHLY ADVISE YOU GUYS LIKE REALLY GET UP TO DATE ON THIS. SO WHERE IS, UM, GREG, WHERE YOU SAID THE EPA IS GONNA CHANGE ITS THRESHOLD IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? YEAH, SO THAT STARTED UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION 20 23, 20 24. AND IT USED TO BE 70 PARTS PER TRILLION. AND THEN AFTER MORE RESEARCH ANALYSIS, IT, IT BASICALLY WENT DOWN TO FOUR. BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERY WATER DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY LIABLE FOR SERVING WATER AT THESE LEVELS. BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS NOT ADVERTISE IT, IT'S SAFE AND EXCELLENT AND ALL THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND ON PARKS, WE SHOULD BE AT, AT THE VERY LEAST, UTILIZING, UH, ESTABLISHED FILTRATION TECHNOLOGIES LIKE REVERSE OSMOSIS ION EXCHANGE IN SCHOOLS LIKE MIAMI BEACH, SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. LIKE WE ALL REMEMBER GOING TO SCHOOL AND DRINKING WATER OUT OF THE WATER FOUNTAIN. IT WAS PROBABLY PRETTY STUPID FOR ALL OF US TO DO. BUT NOW WE KNOW AND WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW THESE KIDS TO DO IT. WE, WE KNOW, RIGHT? SO WE'RE KNOWINGLY SERVING THESE KIDS CANCER CAUSING WATER THAT WE'RE ADVERTISING TO THEM AS SAFE AND EXCELLENT WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SUING 3M FOR $200 MILLION WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE EPA SAYS THESE LEVELS ARE A THOUSAND TIMES. SO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE WATER, I'M SORRY, I MET WITH THEM. I WAS VERY RESPECTFUL. I CAN'T ANYMORE. THEY'RE REALLY, THEY DON'T. GOT IT. SO THIS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CONTROL THE WATER, RIGHT? WE, BUT WHAT WE CAN CONTROL IS FILTRATION. THIS FILTRATION WILL TAKE OUT 99% OF IT AND IT'S ESTABLISHED. YOU COULD GO ON AMAZON RIGHT NOW AND BUY A SIMPLE REVERSE OSMOSIS FILTER FOR YOUR HOME FOR LIKE A FEW HUNDRED BUCKS. YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. SO WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS AT THE SCHOOLS, AT A LOCAL LEVEL, AT A GOVERNMENT LEVEL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO. SO YOU, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST DON'T ADVERTISE THAT IT'S SAFE. THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE WARNED THAT THIS IS NOT SAFE. YOU, YOU'RE LITERALLY IN WATER REPORTS DATING BACK, BUT SINCE AT LEAST 2019, YOU'RE CALLING IT SAFE AND EXCELLENT. AND I HAVE AN EMAIL NOW, VERY STUPIDLY, THEY DID THIS. THEY WROTE, WE KNEW SINCE 2019, BUT IF WE HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE AND COUNTY REGULATORY OFFICIALS SAYING THAT THE WATER'S SAFE, IT IS NOT. BUT THERE, EPA IS SAYING IT'S NOT SAFE. IT'S CANCER CAUSING, THEY'RE NOT SAYING IT'S SAFE. THEY'RE SAYING YOU HAVE FIVE YEARS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. OKAY, SO HOW ABOUT WE, HOW ABOUT WE MAKE AN ITEM, I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER, ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, MAYBE WE MAKE AN ITEM JUST TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND THEN WE CAN BRING IN OUR, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, WITH OUR STATE ATTORNEY AND WE CAN HAVE A, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE SUNSHINE ABOUT THIS. I'VE, I'VE DONE THIS EXTENSIVELY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND THEY ALL WANT TO DEFLECT LIABILITY BECAUSE WHAT, THEY'RE GONNA BE THE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, YOU'RE GIVEN CANCER TO KIDS, THEY'RE GONNA JUST DEFLECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADMIT TO ANYTHING. THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT. UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T, AT LEAST, WE'LL AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND HAVE SOME, SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION. BUT WHY NOT IMPLEMENT FILTRATION IMMEDIATELY IN SCHOOLS? BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOL BOARD IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IS LIKE ITS OWN KINGDOM. AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S PRETTY FRUSTRATING. WHEN WE TRIED TO PROTECT A BUILDING THAT WAS FALLING DOWN, WE COULDN'T ENFORCE THE RULES THAT APPLY TO ANY OTHER BUILDING IN THE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LAWS. WHEN WE TRIED TO GET ACCESS TO FIX A, A BROKEN PIPE, WE HAD TO NEGOTIATE ALL KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LAWS. SO I, I'M GLAD YOU'RE ELEVATING THIS ISSUE. I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS FOR US TO HAVE OUR STAFF EDUCATE US ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, WHAT THEY'RE HEARING. YOU MIGHT KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT WE DON'T. SO IF WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WE HAVE TO GET EDUCATED, RIGHT? SO RIGHT. BUT THE STAFF, IF LEMME FINISH, IS NOT EXCUSE. IF THEY'RE DEFLECT, EXCUSE MERE NOT. EXCUSE ME, LET ME FINISH. SO LET US INFORM OURSELVES, LET US TASK THEM WITH FINDING OUT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING THAT ARE IN THIS A SIMILAR SITUATION. BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY. LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE COUNTY HAS PLANNED BESIDES SUING. LET'S GATHER SOME INFORMATION, THEN WE CAN HAVE AN INFORMED DISCUSSION. I CAN TELL YOU EVERYTHING I'VE, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WELL OVER A YEAR, GREG UNFOR, LOOK, WE'RE WE'RE BOUND BY PROCESSES ELECTED. I, I KNOW LEMME JUST, AND, AND, AND AS AND AS GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. SO I'M [02:25:01] WILLING, I'M WILLING TO HEAR YOU OUT. YEAH. WE WANT TO HEAR IT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING YOU'RE TELLING US. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO HEAR. YEAH. AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE A A, A FORMAL PROCESS WHERE YOU SPEAK, OUR CITY STAFF SPEAKS AND THEY ALSO GIVE US A, A, A DOWNLOAD ON INFORMATION, UH, OF, OF WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR. NOW I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY BE VERY SKEPTICAL OF THAT. FINE. I WAS ALWAYS SKEPTICAL OF STAFF. I STILL AM. UM, SO LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST TAKE IT ON. I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO SHUT YOU DOWN. I'M ACTUALLY OPENING UP MORE DIALOGUE. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. I'M ACTUALLY OPEN UP MORE DIAL LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE TO LET YOU SPEAK TODAY. THANK YOU. AND I'M WILLING TO EVEN MAKE THIS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WE CAN DISCUSS HERE. JUST, JUST THE FINAL POINT TO OUTLINE HOW OUTRAGEOUS IT IS. UM, SO THE GROUNDWATER FLOWS. MY, AGAIN, I'M NOT LIKE A CRAZY PERSON FROM THE STREET. I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND IN PFAS CHEMICALS FOR LIKE OVER A DECADE NOW. I'VE HELPED NEGOTIATE MULTIMILLION DOLLARS OF SETTLEMENTS INVOLVED WITH $13 BILLION LITIGATION, MULTI-DISTRICT LITIGATION. LIKE THIS IS NOT A SMALL THING. THE GROUNDWATER IN MIAMI FLOWS FROM WEST TO EAST. WHAT HAPPENED WAS, UH, US MILITARY MANDATED THIS WHITE FIREFIGHTING FOAM TO BE USED AT ALL THE AIRPORTS. AND 3M THE REASON WHY THERE'S A $13 BILLION SETTLEMENT IS BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE CAUGHT TELLING THE AIRPORTS TO DISPOSE OF THE FIREFIGHTING FOAM DOWN THE SEWER, WHICH THEN LEAKED INTO THE WATER SUPPLY. BECAUSE THE WATER MOVES WEST TO EAST, ALL OF THE GROUNDWATER WELLS FROM THE AIRPORT EAST, WEST TO EAST ARE CONTAMINATED. THE WATER FLOWS IN FROM THE AIRPORT DOWN MIAMI RIVER INTO BISCAYNE BAY AND THE MIAMI AQUIFER 24 7 365. SO IT'S ALSO LIKE THE BAY. THAT'S A MESS AS WELL. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T GO SWIMMING THERE. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, THE WELLS TO THE WEST OF THE AIRPORT, THE NORTHWEST WELL FIELD IS BASICALLY ALMOST PRISTINE. THESE WELLS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN. WE SHOULDN'T BE SERVING WATER TO KIDS FROM A SUPERFUND SITE WHERE THEY USE THESE CHEMICALS. WE SHOULD BE GOING WEST AS THEY DO IN NEW YORK. SO, GREG, IF I MAY, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE VERY WELL INFORMED. IF YOU HAVE MATERIALS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO INCORPORATE INTO THIS EDUCATION PROCESS, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO JOE GELLER, WHO'S OUR MIAMI BEACH REPRESENTATIVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM AS WELL AND BRING HIM UP TO SPEED. THERE IS A PROCESS. WE CAN'T JUST WAIVE OUR MAGIC WAND AND FUND REVERSE OSMOSIS FILTRATION SYSTEMS FOR EVERYBODY. THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. BUT IF THERE IS A, A, A LAWSUIT GOING ON, MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS. MAYBE O OBVIOUSLY CLEANING UP THE SUPERFUND SITE. I MEAN, GIVEN THE STATE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, CLEAN AIR AND WATER SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, A NICE TO HAVE, NOT A NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THESE ARE THE TIMES WE'RE LIVING IN. SO LET US DO THIS YEAH. IN AN INFORMED, MEASURED WAY. WE'LL GET THE INFORMATION, WE'LL GET STAFF ON BOARD. WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING. IF YOU'VE BEEN PART OF LAWSUITS AND THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, SEND THAT INFORMATION TO US. OKAY. AND, AND THE LAST THING THAT WE CAN DO IS JUST NOT ADVERTISE IT AS SAFE AND EXCELLENT. VERY SIMPLE. RIGHT? I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A THING THAT WE DO FROM MIAMI BEACH OR IF IT'S DONE. YEAH, MIAMI BEACH WATER QUALITY REPORT. NO, I KNOW THE REPORT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GENERATED BY THE COUNTY AND WE JUST SLAP OUR, IF IT'S WHITE LABELED, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE'LL HAVE ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU GREG. YOU HAVE TO START. WE'LL APPRECIATE, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.