* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. 4, 3, 2, 1. [00:00:05] GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO APRIL 16TH. UH, 2006, 26 DRB MEETING. UM, WE WILL START WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. SORRY. UH, UM, ATTENDANCE. LET'S DO A, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. UM, MS. PDI HERE. UM, OH, THIS IS MY OLD LIST. OOPS. I'LL HAVE TO RE, UH, MR. S YOUNG HERE. MR. PEZ? HERE. MS. LEWIN? HERE. UH, MR. BERG HERE. UM, UM, MR. LESTER HERE. UM, UH, MS. MENAGE . SORRY, I'M TERRIBLE WITH NAMES. I APOLOGIZE. UM, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT OF THE QUORUM OF THE BOARD, PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT'S STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. 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YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE. I'LL [SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC] NOW SWEAR IN EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY. VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. SO IF YOU'LL BE GIVING TESTIMONY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. I DO. THANK YOU. UM, SO THERE'S NOTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO ITEMS ON CONSENT. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS ITEMS? UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I SEE. THAT WAS GOOD. OH, JUST MAKING SURE WE GOT, YEAH, NO, NO, NOTHING ELSE. UH, WE CAN, UH, APPROVE ALL [1. AFTER ACTION MARCH 12, 2026] OF THE MINUTES. I'M NOT, I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. CAN I MAKE A MOTION IF I WASN'T HERE MARCH 12TH? PROBABLY SHOULDN'T FOR THE MINUTES. IS THERE AN ISSUE IF SHE WASN'T HERE TO MAKE A MOTION? YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. SHE'S MAKING THE MOTION. UM, MOTION TO APPROVE LAURA. SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. UM, NOW [2. DRB24-1061, 1414 Alton Road.] FOR CONTINUANCES AND WITHDRAWALS, WE HAVE ALTON 14. 14. YES. SO, 14. 14. ALTON, THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY REQUESTING A DEFERRAL. UM, SO NO ACTION IS NECESSARY. THE ITEM WILL BE RENO AT A FUTURE DATE. THEY, THEY MADE SOME CHANGES THAT IS GONNA REQUIRE, UM, A REVISED TITLE. UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE DEFERRING THIS. UM, NO ACTION IS NECESSARY ON THIS. SO JUST FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE WILL BE RE NOTICING THIS ITEM ONCE IT'S READY TO GO. OKAY. SO, MOVING ON FROM REQUESTED S OF THE CHARLES TO CONTINUED ITEMS, [OPEN AND CONTINUED ITEMS AND PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED ITEMS] UM, 16 9 1 MICHIGAN, UH, YES. UH, DRB 25 11 60 FKAD RRB, 24 10 0 9 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW, APPROVAL FOR EXTERIOR DESIGN MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING. [00:05:01] SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE, INCLUDING MATERIALS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024. THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVE EXTERIOR DESIGN MODIFICATIONS TO THE SUBJECT PROJECT KNOWN AS THE LINCOLN. THE MODIFICATIONS INCLUDED, BUT WERE NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING, AN OVERALL WARMER COLOR PALETTE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND THE CORPORATION OF MATERIALS, SUCH AS THE DECORATIVE METAL SPIKES ON THE PROMINENT MECHANICAL PARAPET, FIBERGLASS PLANTERS AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND 17TH STREET ON LEVELS 2, 2 5 VERTICAL NCES. IN BETWEEN THE HORIZONTAL BANDING OF WINDOWS AND OPENINGS AND CHAMPAGNE COLOR, PERFORATED METAL SCREENING TO COVER EXPOSED CIRCULATION CORDS AND GARAGE OPENINGS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING FACADES, INCLUDING MATERIALS. THE REVIVE DESIGNS ELIMINATES THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LIMESTONE VENEER, CLADDING, AND FIBERGLASS PLANTERS ON THE MAIN BUILDING'S ELEVATIONS, AS WELL AS THE TRAVER TRAVER TEAM MOSAIC WALL ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION AT THE EAST END OF THE GROUND FLOOR. ADDITIONALLY, THE METAL SCREENING PROPOSED ON THE PARKING GARAGE ELEVATION HAS BEEN REDUCED, BUT IT STILL WRAPS THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST CORNERS TO ENSURE THAT THE INTERIORS OF THE GARAGE LEVELS ARE SCREENED FROM VIEW FROM JEFFERSON AND MICHIGAN AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE REPAIR AND PAINT OF THE EXISTING HORIZONTAL TOCO BANDING, AND IS PROPOSING A NEW VERTICAL EIFS E NO EIFS PANELS. UH, THE WALLS AND PANELS WILL HAVE THE CHAMPAGNE AS IT WASHES TO CO FINISH FOR TEXTURE. FURTHERMORE, THE APPLICANT HAS EXTENDED THE DECORATIVE METAL SPIKES TO BETTER ENHANCE THE PROMINENT MECHANICAL PARAPET. THE DESIGN INTENT OF THE MODIFICATION IS TO CONTINUE THE WARM COLOR AND MATERIAL PALETTE OF THE PROJECT AND ENSURE THE OVERALL HORIZONTALITY OF THE FACADES IS BROKEN UP BY VERTICAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO PROVIDE DEPTH AND ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST, E STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE MODIFICATIONS AS THEY MAINTAIN THE GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL INTENT OF THE PROJECT AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. GOOD MORNING, NICHOLAS RODRIGUEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LONG-TERM TENANT. UH, ARCADE ANI, LLC. I'M JOINED BY, UH, ROBERT ANI, THE PRINCIPAL OF THE ENTITY THAT MANAGES THE BUILDING. JILLIAN RIO. UH, AND MARCUS WANDER FROM THE ANI TEAM. IF WE COULD PULL UP OUR DIGITAL PRESENTATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU AS TO THE BUILDING, WE'RE ON 17TH STREET AND, UH, MICHIGAN AND JEFFERSON AVE. THE PORTION FRONTING 17TH STREET IS THE OFFICE AND RETAIL BUILDING, AND THEN THE PORTION, UH, CLOSER TO LINCOLN ROAD IS A 700 OR SO SPACE PARKING GARAGE. UH, THIS BUILDING IS OWNED BY THE CITY. IT'S A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE RII ENTITY WHO WAS A LONG-TERM TENANT, UH, WHEN THE ANI ENTITY PURCHASED THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST IN 2024. THE BUILDING IS KIND OF DATED. IT WAS GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION WHERE THE TENANTS WERE LEAVING, UH, AND THEN WHEN ANI PURCHASED THE BUILDING, THEY'VE INFUSED ABOUT $50 MILLION INTO A FULL INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR RENOVATION. AND THAT'S WHAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND WHAT'S IF YOU DROVE BY THE BUILDING ON YOUR WAY IN? UH, THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERGOING, UH, CONSTRUCTION AT THE BUILDING NOW. SO THIS IS WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. UH, AS MENTIONED IS A LITTLE BIT DATED. UH, THE PLANTERS WERE NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. IT NEEDED SOME REPAIRS. UH, AND THIS IS, UH, MORE DETAILED ON THE ACTUAL MATERIALS. YOU SEE THE PROMINENT, UH, PARAPET FEATURE ON THE CORNER AND THE DIAGONAL LINES ON THE FACADE FACING THE CORNER. WE'RE KEEPING THOSE ELEMENTS, UH, BUT, UH, THE, WE'RE CHANGING THE COOL GRAY TONES, UH, AND MAKING IT A MORE WARM TYPE OF BUILDING. UH, SO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS FOR LIMESTONE CLADDING ON THE FACADE AND, UH, TRAVERTINE ON THE GROUND LEVEL, AS WELL AS A PERFORATED ME METAL SCREEN ON THE GARAGE. WE'RE KEEPING THE PERFORATED METAL SCREEN. UH, BUT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LIMESTONE CLADDING ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING. AND REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE INTRUSIVENESS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUTTING THAT LIMESTONE AND THE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT PROJECT. UH, RIGHT NOW THE TENANTS ARE GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME WITH CONSTRUCTION. UH, IT'S VERY INTRUSIVE, THE NOISE. IT'S MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THE TENANTS TO REMAIN IN THE BUILDING. THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE INTENDED TO ACHIEVE THE SAME EXACT EFFECT THAT YOU SEE. UH, YOU'LL SEE A RENDERING OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WHILE SPEEDING UP THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND MAKING IT MUCH LESS INTRUSIVE FOR THE TENANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE SO THAT THE BUILDING CAN REMAIN OCCUPIED AND CONTINUE ON ITS UPWARD TRAJECTORY. UH, THAT STARTED WHEN THE RNI ENTITY PURCHASED THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST. UH, SO THIS IS A, A MORE BROAD SIDE VIEW OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT. YOU SEE THE, THE FACADE COLOR CHANGE AND THE, THE MATERIALITY ON THE LIGHT SCONCES, AS WELL AS THE PERFORATED METAL SCREENING ON THE GARAGE. UH, AND ONE ELEMENT THAT ALSO CHANGED BETWEEN THE LAST PREVIOUSLY [00:10:01] APPROVED PROJECT AND THE CURRENT PROJECT IS THE GARAGE VENTILATION. UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS INTENDED THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUT THOSE VENTILATION FANS. IT TURNS OUT THAT WASN'T REALLY FEASIBLE. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A CUSTOM PERFORATED METAL SCREEN THAT'S GONNA BLEND IN WITH THE FACADE AS WELL. SO, UH, SOME KIND OF CLEANUP ELEMENTS AND MAKING THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT FASTER, A LITTLE BIT MORE FEASIBLE. UH, AND JILLIAN WILL, JILLIAN RIO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UH, HOW THE PROJECT IS GONNA UNFOLD WITH THE NEW EIFS PANEL. AND WE HAVE A, A SAMPLE HERE. YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO COME AND LOOK AT IT AND FEEL IT. IT IS A, A LIGHTER MATERIAL, SO IT'S GONNA BE A LOT EASIER TO INSTALL. UH, JILLIAN, IF YOU WANT TO WALK THEM THROUGH, UM, THAT'S GONNA GO. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. MORNING. I'M JILLIAN RIO. I'M THE DESIGN DIRECTOR FOR ANI. UM, I KNOW WE HAD AN EXCELLENT INTRO FROM NICHOLAS, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA RECAP JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE ARE IN TIME. UM, ANI IS A LUXURY BRAND. WE ARE DELIVERING A HOTEL-LIKE EXPERIENCE TO OFFICE IN TERMS OF AESTHETICS AND AMENITIES AND LIFESTYLE. OUR EXISTING TENANTS, IN A SENSE, THOUGHT THEY WERE HITTING THE JACKPOT WHEN WE PRESENTED WHERE THEY WILL BE WORKING IN TWO YEARS. ONCE OUR PROJECT REACHED COMPLETION, WE WERE TURNING YOUR TYPICAL 2001 MIAMI BEACH CORNER BUILDING INTO A ROMANTIC RETREAT WITH OUR STONE SCONCES AWNINGS, AND THE ELIMINATION OF STARK SMOOTH STUCCO. DURING OUR 20 YEAR WATERPROOFING REPAIR, THE STUCCO CHIPPING PROVED TO BE SO LOUD THAT THE NOISE AND VIBRATION MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR TENANTS TO WORK FROM THEIR OFFICES WITH THE PERFECTLY VALID NOISE COMPLAINTS. MYSELF BEING ONE OF THE COMPLAINERS, AS MY OFFICE IS ON THE FIFTH FLOOR, WE NEEDED TO TRULY EVALUATE THE NEXT PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION. THE NEXT STEP OF ANCHORING THE STONE PANELS TO THE BUILDING'S EXTERIOR WILL NOT ONLY BE LOUDER THAN THE STUCCO REPAIR, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE PERFORMED FOR A LONGER DURATION OF TIME. OUR INCREDIBLE TEAM OF DESIGNERS AND ENGINEERS BELIEVE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PROBLEMS, ONLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOLUTIONS. WITH MONTHS OF SEARCHING, WE FINALLY FOUND A PRODUCT THAT ACHIEVED THE SAME 45 DEGREE BEVEL DESIGN AND TEXTURE OF OUR STONE PANEL, AND COULD BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING WITHOUT DRILLING ANCHORS. OUR ETHOS PANEL SHOWN HERE, PERFORMS IN THE SAME EXACT MANNER, AESTHETICALLY WITH NO INSTALLATION HARDSHIPS. THIS MOMENT OF REFLECTION ALSO ALLOWED FOR OUR TEAM TO REEVALUATE THE FACADE DESIGN AND REPOSITION SOME OF THE SCONCES ON THE NEW TALLER PANELS, THUS TYING THE EXISTING RIBBON WINDOWS TOGETHER WITH VERTICALITY. ANYTHING TO MAKE A CHUNKY BUILDING LOOK TALLER. SOME OF SOME OTHER EXISTING CONDITIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE MET DURING CONSTRUCTION INCLUDE A PLANTER WAS SHOWN AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING WITH THE CROWN RECESSED BEHIND, WHEN IN FACT, THE FACADE AND CROWN ARE ON THE SAME PLANE. WE DECIDED TO ELIMINATE THE PLANTER. INSTEAD OF ADDING AN APPENDAGE, OUR GARAGE ME MECHANICAL VENTILATION SYSTEM, WE DECIDED TO KEEP AS EXISTING TO REMAIN. AND SINCE WE ARE WRAPPING THE GARAGE OPENINGS WITH A SCREEN, WE HAVE HAD TO HA ADD PERFORATED PANELS. SORRY, WE'VE HAD TO ADD PERFORATED PANELS WITH A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF OPENING TO ALLOW THE FANS TO BREATHE IN IN A FEW AREAS. THIS IS A SAMPLE OF THE PERFORATED PANEL, NOT THE CORRECT COLOR. IT WOULD BE THE SAME EXACT COLOR AS THE, UM, AS THE E ETHOS PANEL HERE IN THE ROMAN CLAY. IT'S MINIMAL BUT NECESSARY. WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE DESIGN, REFINEMENT, AND EASE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE ARE PRESENTING. WE ARE BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE'RE FLYING IT, AND THERE ARE NO EMPTY SEATS AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND OH, YES. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. OKAY. SORRY. BEFORE WE REOPEN, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? OKAY. WANNA OPEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY HERE TODAY ONLINE? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. I HAVE A QUESTION. NOBODY'S HANDS ARE RAISED. OKAY. ENCLO PUBLIC. AND OPEN THIS UP TO THE BOARD. UM, I'D LIKE TO START. YEAH, SURE. CHAIR. UM, I, I'M SURE THAT THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS NEXT DOOR ARE ALSO PROBABLY COMPLAINING WITH THAT NOISE AS WELL. RIGHT. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. UM, MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM OUR TENANTS. AND HOW MUCH TIME IS THIS GONNA ALLEVIATE THIS CHANGE IN THE CONSTRUCTION? THIS COULD ALLEVIATE TWO MONTHS FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, SO THAT SCAFFOLDING WOULD COME DOWN A LOT SOONER. I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO INSTEAD OF TAKING AND CHIPPING AWAY AT THE CURRENT STUCCO [00:15:01] THAT IS IN PLACE IN THE BUILDING FROM WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, BUILT, YOU ARE GOING TO ATTACH A SAMPLE THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT HERE TODAY. UM, AND THAT WILL, UM, ADHERE TO ANY WIND, UH, PROBLEMS AND STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS. MM-HMM . IT'S ENGINEERED TO, TO BE FASTENED TO THE BUILDING. AND THERE, THERE SHOULD BE NO ISSUES MOVING FORWARD. AND LET ME ASK YOU, WHEN, WHEN THE IDEA ORIGINALLY WAS TO REMOVE THE STUCCO, WHAT WAS GONNA BE PUT ON THE BUILDING FACADE IN LIEU OF STUCCO? IT WAS A STONE PANEL IN THE SAME SHAPE AS THE EVIS. THE ISSUE WITH THE STONE PANEL IS THAT IT HAD TO HAVE FORCE ANCHORS INTO THE BUILDING. SO NOT ONLY THE CHIPPING, BUT THE DRILLING. MM-HMM . OKAY. AND I ASSUME THERE'S NO, UM, SAMPLE THAT CAN BE ATTACHED, NO EVES THAT CAN BE ATTACHED, THAT CAN REPLICATE THE LOOK OF THE STONE THAT YOU ORIGINALLY WERE GOING TO ATTACH? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE DID VISIT THE IDEA OF REPLICATING STONE, BUT THE IDEA OF REPLICATING STONE, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTING A PORCELAIN, A STONE, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE STONE. SO INSTEAD OF LYING ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE, WE DECIDED TO CREATE THIS PROTRUSION IN THE STUCCO ITSELF. SO WE'RE ACHIEVING THE TEXTURE, WE'RE ACHIEVING THIS SHAPE, BUT WE'RE NOT LYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ATTACK, MAKING FAKE STONE AND ATTACHING IT TO THE BUILDING. AND WHAT IS THIS MADE OF? THIS IS EFIS. IT IS, IT'S A, A FOAM SOLUTION. IT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR EXTERIOR, EXTERIOR BUILDINGS. AND IT PERFORMS GREAT IN MIAMI BEACH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS A TWO MONTH, UH, TIMING SAVED. WHAT WAS THE ANTICIPATED TIME TO INSTALL THE STONE? THE STONE WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS OF INSTALLATION. OH, SO THIS WILL BE LIKE VERY FAST? YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? OKAY. YEAH. JUST ONE, ONE THING I WANNA ADD TO THAT, THE STONE INSTALLATION WOULD BE TWO MONTHS, BUT ALL THE PREP WORK AND ALL THE, UH, DESTRUCTIVE WORK WOULD BE A FEW MONTHS MORE THAN THAT. SO PROBABLY A TO Z DURATION FOR STONE VERSUS THIS IS SIX MONTH DELAY. BUT YOU WOULD, IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS WHERE HE WOULD HAVE TO VACATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING. HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANYBODY OPERATE FOR SIX MONTHS, WHICH WITH EXISTING OFFICE TENANTS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO. OKAY. UM, AND CAN I ASK AN UNRELATED QUESTION TO THE STONE? UM, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE RENDERINGS. IS THE CROWN NOW NOT SET BACK? IT'S MOVED UP. OKAY. YEAH. HONESTLY, THAT WAS A MISTAKE IN UNDERSTANDING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDING. WE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE CROWN WAS SET BACK. IT IS AN EXISTING ELEMENT, UM, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS ON THE SAME PLANE OF THE FACADE. SO INSTEAD OF ATTACHING A PLANTER TO CREATE THAT SAME IDEA, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S HONOR WHAT'S THERE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. GOOD MORNING. UM, WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS STONE, THIS EFIS PANEL? UH, I THINK IT IS PRETTY SURE IT HAS A 20 YEAR WARRANTY. YEAH. THAT COMES WITH IT. I WANTED TO SAY 25, BUT THERE THE WARRANTY ITSELF IS A LITTLE LESS. OKAY. AND AN UNRELATED QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPANCY RATE RIGHT NOW? O UH, WE'RE PROUD TO SAY WITH PRE-CONSTRUCTION WAS 90%. 90%. OKAY. SO YOU ARE INTERRUPTING A LOT OF YES. YS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMENTS. UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, THIS PROJECT INVESTING INTO, INTO THE CITY WITH THIS, UM, I JUST REFAMILIARIZING MYSELF WITH IT. SO THE, IS EVERYTHING BEING CLAD AND EVIS OR JUST THE PANELS WITH THE LIGHT FIXTURES? JUST SO YOU'RE STUCCO RES STUCCO. AND THEN THE PROTRUSIONS ARE GOING TO BE THIS, THIS EFIS PANEL. SO THE CROWN IS, AS YOU WERE SAYING, IS, IS JUST STUCCO, STUCCO, RE STUCCO TO REPAINT IT. UM, AND THE PLANTERS ON THE, THE CORNER ARE STAYING OR THEY'RE GOING? THEY'RE STAYING. OKAY. THEY'RE NICE. UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH EVIS. IT'S, UH, USED A LOT UP IN, UP IN NEW YORK, . UM, LUCKILY HERE WE DON'T HAVE TEMPERATURE SWINGS TO, 'CAUSE OTHERWISE I'D WORRY ABOUT THIS PANEL AND WATER INTRUSION BEHIND AND THEN FREEZING AND THEN CRACKING IT OFF. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE HAD THE MOST EXPERIENCE WITH. UM, BUT IT IS FAST AND EASY AND, AND MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE AND THEY CAN GET A GOOD LOOK AT IT WITH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU PUT THE RIGHT STUCCO FINISH ON IT, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY SUGGESTED. AND I SAW YOUR WATERPROOF DETAIL, WHICH LOOKS PRETTY GOOD SO THAT IT'S, IT'S A CAULK JOINT BETWEEN IT. UM, [00:20:01] WHICH I THINK SHOULD, SHOULD LAST. UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR ISSUES WITH IT. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WOULD'VE PREFERRED STONE. IT'S STAYS TRUE AND IT'S NICER, BUT IT'S, I CAN IMAGINE THE COST AND, AND JUST THE PREP WORK FOR IT. UM, IS THERE ANY OF THIS DOWN AT THE STREET LEVEL? THERE IS NOT. OKAY. GOOD. AT WHAT LEVEL DOES IT BEGIN OF THE BUILDING? IT BEGINS AT LEVEL TWO. YEAH. YEAH. SO NO, NOBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO COME IN CONTACT WITH IT. AND THE, THE REASON WHY I ASK IS 'CAUSE PEOPLE CAN JAB IT AND SCRATCH IT AND, AND MARK IT. SO IT DOESN'T DO WELL AT LIKE, THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S NOT ON THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL WHATSOEVER. SENTENCING, IT'S NOT AT THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL WHATSOEVER. IT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND ABOVE. AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE USED THE EFI PANELS? 'CAUSE I, I HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MANY DOWN HERE. I KNOW EVERYONE'S USED TO USING, JUST COMING FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER WORLD, WHICH WAS MY ORIGINAL BEFORE I CAME TO MIAMI. WE USED EFIS ALL THE TIME, EVEN IN COLD WEATHER AREAS. AND CRACKING WOULD BE A CONCERN, BUT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED WITH IT WHATSOEVER HERE. AND AESTHETICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AT THE BUILDING, YOU CAN'T REALLY APPRECIATE THE BUILDING FROM VERY FAR AWAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE BUILDINGS SIDE BY SIDE. SO YOU CAN REALLY ONLY GET TO THE SECOND, THIRD FLOOR FROM THE VISUAL. YOU'LL NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE MOST PART TO THE NAKED EYE THAT IT'S AN EFIS PANEL VERSUS IT'S, AND WE INTENTIONALLY PUT THIS ROAMING CLAY FINISH ON IT, WHICH IS TWO TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A TYPICAL FINISH FOR IT TO HAVE THAT MOVEMENT AND KIND OF DISAPPEAR AND TO LOOK MORE STONELIKE. YEAH. THE FINISH IS NICE. IF YOU JUST PUT A REGULAR STUCCO ON IT, IT WOULD LOSE. ITS, IT LOOKS LIKE POPCORNY AND LOOKS CHEAP AND DOES NOT LOOK, DOES NOT LOOK GOOD. UM, WHERE ELSE DID YOU SAY WAS USED HERE IN THIS AREA? NO, I WAS SAYING, I, I, I DID IT IN OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS THAT I USED TO DEVELOP. I USED THE EFIS PANELS. BUT HERE IN THIS AREA, YOU HAVE NOT, THIS EVES MATERIAL HAS NOT BEEN UTILIZED TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE? UM, I WOULD'VE, I, I, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. I'VE SEEN IT IN A FEW BUILDINGS. I DON'T KNOW THEM OFFHAND, BUT I, I MEAN, I'M DRIVING AND I'M WATCHING 'EM LIKE, OH, THERE, IT'S GOING UP. YOU KNOW, I'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THEM. I JUST CAN'T RECALL WHAT BUILDING OFFHAND, AND IT'S HARD TO TELL AFTER THE FACT BECAUSE THEN IT JUST TURNS INTO STUCCO. RIGHT. AND IT, BUT IT DOES EXIST IN THIS AREA. MM-HMM . UM, ONE QUESTION AT THE RETAIL CORNER OF THE BUILDING, WHERE ON THE FIRST LEVEL IS THAT A FABRIC PANEL CAN BE USED FOR ONIN INSTEAD OF A THE EVIS? YES. THE, IT'S ON THE, ON THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL, ON THE CORNER. THAT IS A, A FABRIC ONIN. IT'S USING FABRIC BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO SWITCH OUT FOR RETAIL PURPOSES OR NOT. AVIS? NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT TO BE SWITCHED OUT. THIS IS, UM, IT'S A, A, A FABRIC THAT WE WANTED TO ADD TO THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL. UM, IT'S, IT IS JUST PURELY ORNAMENTAL AND IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS APPROVED SET. OKAY. UH, QUESTION IS THERE, WHAT'S THE MOISTURE RISK OF, OF THIS INSTALL, INSTALLING THIS IN MIAMI BEACH? ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH MOISTURE ON THIS TYPE OF INSTALLATION ON THE BEACH? SO WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE ATTACHING TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S RISK OF MOISTURE. UM, IT'S FULLY WATERPROOFED BEHIND. IT IS A WATERPROOF SOLUTION ITSELF, AND DESIGN INTENT OF HAVING THAT BUBBLE, IT'S NOT ALLOWING FOR ANY WATER TO SIT ON IT EITHER. UM, AND, AND LIKE, UH, MR. MESH WAS SAYING THAT THE, THE CAULKING JOINT BETWEEN THE PANEL AND THE REST OF THE BUILDING, IT, IT EXISTS. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCEDURE OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS FULLY WATERPROOFED. GOT IT. THE MESH THAT YOU HAVE THERE IN STAINLESS STEEL COLOR OR SILVER COLOR, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL? STAINLESS STEEL. SO THAT IS A PAINTED TO MATCH THE REST OF THE STUCCO. IT ONLY OCCURS, I THINK, IN FOUR LOCATIONS ON THE GARAGE. UM, THE IDEA IS FOR IT TO SLIP AWAY INTO THE REST OF THE STUCCO. MM-HMM . UM, IT IS SITTING NEXT TO THE PERFORATED DESIGN PANEL THAT WE HAVE IN THE CHAMPAGNE COLOR. UM, AND THIS ELEMENT IS CONTINUING THE HORIZONTALITY OF THE STUCCO, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CHAMPAGNE BAND OF THE OPENINGS IN THE GARAGE. UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BRINGING IT IN THE CORRECT COLOR, BUT THIS WOULD BE IN THE ROAMING CLAY COLOR. OKAY. BUT THE MATERIAL ITSELF IS IT'S METAL METAL. MM-HMM . THAT'S THE ACTUAL ONE. AND IT DOESN'T RUST? NO, NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY. SO IT'S A STAINLESS STEEL TYPE YES. MATERIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. [00:25:03] AND THE DECORATIVE METAL, WHAT WAS, WAS SOMETHING CHANGING ON THE DECORATIVE METAL? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I KNOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION IT SAID THAT SOMETHING WAS, BUT WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THERE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT EITHER. YEAH. UM, AND YOU HAVE A DRIP EDGE UNDERNEATH THESE PANELS, LIKE IN CASE THERE'S ANY WATER INTRUSION UNDER BEHIND IT. LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, THEY'RE GLUED, SCREWED, AND GLUED, AND IF YOU MAKE SURE THEY BUTTER THE BACKS, THEY'LL BE, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE BONDED. UM, THAT WOULD, THAT'S MY, THAT'S ALL WE WOULD WORRY ABOUT. YOU DON'T WANT 'EM POPPING OFF. UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS GLUED WHAT IS AND SCREWED AND SCREWED, BUT WHAT IS IT FOR, LIKE HURRICANE PROOF? TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT. SO IN THE SYSTEM ITSELF, IT HAS THE, THE RATING OF THE SYSTEM BEING HURRICANE CREATED. THEN WE HAVE OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER WHO'S EVALUATED AND CREATED THE DETAIL TO ALSO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE HURRICANE RATING. UM, BEYOND THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD BE PROVIDED. I KNOW THAT I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING HAPPENING TO THIS BUILDING BECAUSE THE SYSTEM ITSELF AND OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD HAVE BOTH AGREED THAT THIS IS OKAY. UM, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA, I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK WELL. YEAH. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR PLANNING. AND THE SECOND PAGE OF THE, UM, UH, DOCUMENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING CODE, IT SAYS THAT IT SHALL THIS, UM, THE COMMENTS NOTED SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED FINAL ZONING REVIEW OR APPROVAL. IS THAT, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT COMMENT BEFORE. ARE WE MOVING INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? NO, WE, WELL, THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN MOST OF OUR STAFF REPORTS. WE TRY TO DO AS THOROUGH REVIEW AS WE CAN FOR THE DRB, BUT WHEN THEY COME IN FOR BUILDING PERMITTING, THINGS TEND TO CHANGE, OR, OR THERE MIGHT BE LITTLE DETAILS THAT WE MISSED. SO IT CAPTURES THOSE CHANGES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF, OKAY. A MOTION TO APPROVE DRB 25 DASH 11 60 16 91 MICHIGAN AVENUE. SECOND, SECOND. I BELIEVE I HEARD MR. PASE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION PASSES. YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SEE IT'S LIGHT. YEAH, VERY LIGHT. UM, THIS IS NOT A NEW APPLICATION, BUT 72ND STREET IS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, YEAH. OKAY. [4. DRB26-1161 FKA DRB24-1072, 299 72ND STREET.] UH, THE RRB 25, UH, I'M SORRY. THE RRB 26 11 61 FKAD RRB 24 10 72 2 99 70 SECOND STREET. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATION TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE STORY COMMUNITY COMPLEX WITH A PARKING GARAGE LIBRARY, OMMUNITY CENTER, AQUATIC CENTER, FITNESS CENTER, RETAIL, MULTI MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS, AND JOGGING TRACK. SPECIFICALLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE MATERIALS, DESIGN ELEMENTS, LANDSCAPING, AND OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. OKAY. SO THIS IS FOR THE, UH, NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY 72ND STREET COMMUNITY COMPLEX. THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON MAY 15TH, 2025. UM, IT'S FOR, JUST FOR THOSE, WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS. SO FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE AT THE TIME, UM, THIS IS A COMMUNITY COMPLEX THAT INCLUDES A 590 SPACE PARKING GARAGE. IT INCLUDES A PUBLIC LIBRARY, INCLUDES AN AQUATIC CENTER WITH POOLS, UM, INCLUDES SOCCER FIELDS, UM, INCLUDES A COMMUNITY CENTER, COMMUNITY GYM, AND, AND, AND OTHER, OTHER FACILITIES. UM, IT'S PART OF, UH, UM, THE, UH, GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS PROMISED AS PART OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND IN 20, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN 2018. UM, SO THE, THE, UM, APPLICANT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD. UM, THEY'VE THEN SINCE GONE INTO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AND THEY REALIZED THAT SOME CHANGES HAD TO BE MADE, UH, TO THE PLANS. UM, THE MODIFICATIONS, SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS ARE, ARE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH THAT IT REQUIRED COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. UM, SO THEY'RE HERE TO REQUEST, UM, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE, TO THE DESIGN. UM, I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE. UM, IT'S, IT'S, SOME OF THEM ARE, SOME OF THEM ARE MINOR DETAILS. OTHERS ARE, ARE A LITTLE MORE, UM, A LITTLE MORE SIGNIFICANT TO THE DESIGN. SO I'LL, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THOSE. UM, [00:30:01] SO THE, THE ROOFTOP EYEBROW PARAPET WAS INCREASED IN THICKNESS FOR WIND RESISTANCE COMPLIANCE. UM, THE EXTERIOR CONCRETE COLUMNS THAT, UM, ARE NEAR THE GARAGE ENTRANCE, UH, WERE REDESIGNED TO BE A MORE ROBUST V SHAPE WITH CONNECTING WITH A CONNECTING BEAM. UM, GUARDRAILS ALONG THE, THE SIDE, THE, THE SIDES OF THE FACADE WERE REPLACED WITH ANODIZED ALUMINUM AND CONTINUOUS VERTICAL FIN PICKETS. UM, THE PARKING GARAGE SIGNAGE WAS MOVED TO THE TOP OF A COLUMN FOR A STRONGER ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE GARAGE. UM, THEY ADDED PAINTED BEAMS AND METAL FINS ABOVE THE MECHANICAL ROOF ENCLOSURE. UH, NEW METAL FIN ENCLOSURE WAS ADDED AT THE NORTHWEST, UM, MONUMENTAL STAIR LANDING. UM, THE, UH, NORTH WALL GARAGE OPENINGS WERE CHANGED FROM GLASS TO A PERFORATED METAL SCREEN, UH, MATCHING THE SCREEN ADDED AT THE NORTH, AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER NEAR THE MAIN ENTRANCE. UM, THE STUCCO FAC FACADE ALONG 72ND STREET WAS ENHANCED WITH REVEALS TO BREAK UP THE, THE BROAD WALL SURFACES, UM, ADDITIONAL WINDOW. AN ADDITIONAL WINDOW WAS ADDED ON THE NORTH WALLS OF THE RETAIL SPACE. UH, THOSE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THESE BE ENLARGED A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR BETTER STREET IN INTER INTEGRATION. UM, IN TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN WAS REVISED TO REFLECT UPDATED GRADING AND ELEVATION CHANGES. UM, UM, THE, UH, ENTRY PLAZA ON 72ND AND 73RD STREET AND HARDING AVENUES, UH, WERE ADJUSTED TO MATCH THE, THE, UH, SITE CONDITIONS. UM, THE JOGGING PATH ALONG HARDING AVENUE WAS RE REALIGNED, UM, DUE TO, UM, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY FPL. THERE'S SOME ELECTRICAL LINES ON THE PERIMETER THERE, AND SOME, SOME LANDSCAPING. SO THEY'VE SLIGHTLY REVISED THE JOGGING PATH ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE. UM, AND THIS ALSO DOES, IT IMPROVES THE STREET LEVEL INTO ACTIVATION. UM, THEY'VE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL NATIVE PLANTINGS ALONG THE SITE PERIMETER NEAR THE JOGGING PATH. UM, MOST OF THE, UM, UM, TREES ALONG COLLINS AVENUE ARE BEING PRESERVED. THE SPECIMEN TREES ALONG COLLINS AVENUE, THERE'S, UH, SEA GRAPES THERE. THOSE ARE BEING PRESERVED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD, UM, THE LAST TIME AROUND. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, THE SITES BEING MODIFIED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY'RE SEEKING APPROVAL OF IS THE SCREENING OF THE GARAGE ALONG HARDING AVENUE. THIS IS GONNA BE AN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PROJECT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING, UH, FOR THAT TO BE APPROVED. THEY'VE, UH, THEY HAVE AN ARTWORK CALLED ENTITLED RISING, WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY AN ARTIST NAMED ATELIER MANDER MANDER MANDINI. UM, AND IT'S INSPIRED BY OCEAN WAVE MOVEMENT. UM, THE DESIGN IS DYNAMIC. IT HAS SEVERAL LAYERS TO IT. UM, UM, AND, UH, IT'S USING A SCREENING SYSTEM CALLED STRUCTURE FLEX, FLEX FACADES, AND THEN SOME STEEL STRUCTURES AND SOME ALUMINUM FRAMING, FRAMING, AND VENTED MESH. UM, THE COLOR PALETTE PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF BLUE, BLACK AND OFF WHITE AND A CHART SCREEN COLORS. IT'S A, IT'S A VERY PRETTY DESIGN, AND I'M, I'M SURE THE, UH, THE, THE ARCHITECTS WILL BE PRESENTING IT IN GREATER DETAIL. UM, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT IT BE APPROVED. UM, AND, AND IT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THESE, UH, THAT THESE MODIFICATIONS BE APPROVED AND THAT THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES SCREENING BE APPROVED. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE A, A CONDITION FOR. UM, THE CITY AND THE CITY COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING, INCORPORATING THE, UH, GLORY OF OLD GLORY MOSAIC MURALS, WHICH WERE DESIGNED BY ENZO GALLO. THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY LOCATED ON LINCOLN ROAD IN THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING, UM, THAT WAS DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED WITH A CITIZEN M HOTEL. THOSE MURALS WERE PRESERVED. THE CITY OWNS THOSE, UH, MOST OF THOSE MURALS WERE PRESERVED. THE CITY OWNS THEM, AND THE CITY IS CONSIDERING PLACING THEM ALONG THE GROUND LEVEL OF THE BUILDING, FACING THE SOCCER FIELDS. IT'S BEING EVAL. THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT IS BEING EVALUATED, AND THE COST OF THAT IS BEING EVALUATED. UM, IF THE CITY COMMISSION, UM, CHOOSES TO PROCEED WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION IN THE ORDER THAT ALLOWS FOR THEM TO BE PLACED THERE. UM, IF THE CITY COMMISSION DECIDES NOT TO PROCEED WITH PLACING THE MURALS THERE AND LOCATING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN THE DESIGN WILL CONTINUE AS, AS WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED. UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UM, PURSUANT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. AND THE, UH, ARCHITECT, UH, FOR THE CITY IS HERE, AND CIP IS HERE. HI. GOOD MORNING. UH, HERMAN THONG, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH CIP. UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH OUR CONSULTANT, UH, WATERMAKER JUSTIN ARCHITECTS, UM, C-G-C-G-A. YEAH. AND THE, UH, ARTIST, UM, ALIA REINI. HELLO. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S NATALIA. I'M WITH, UH, WANAMAKER JENEN ARCHITECTS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. UM, [00:35:01] AM I CONTROLLING THE, THE PRESENTATION? YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO. OKAY. YEAH. SO AS, UH, HERMAN HERMAN SAID, WE ARE, UM, WE'RE RETURNING BACK TO YOU TO, UM, TO REVIEW ALL THE MODIFICATIONS AND ALSO DISCUSS AND PRESENT THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, UH, DESIGN THAT, UH, ELENA HAS. UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH ELENA TO, TO PRESENT, UM, JUST, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY. I KNOW ROGELIO'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS REALLY THREE MAJOR, THREE MAJOR ELEMENTS THAT WERE, UH, DISCUSSED OR WERE MENTIONED IN THE RECORDED ORDER. UM, THE SEA GRAPES THAT, UM, WERE REQUESTED TO BE MAINTAINED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, THE SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TO, UM, IMPLEMENT IN ORDER TO, UH, DESIGN AND CREATE THE, THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, AND ALSO THE, UH, THE DESIGN FOR THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A RECAP OF THE PROJECT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT, IT DOES TAKE UP A FULL, UH, BLOCK OF THE, UH, NORTH BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S, UH, WILL BE REPLACING THE PARKING LOT, 92. IT IS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE BANDSHELL. AND, UM, IT IS ACCESSIBLE, WILL BE ACCESSIBLE ON ALL, UH, FIVE SIDES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, DYNAMIC AND INTERESTING ACTIVITY THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE. WE REALLY SEE THIS PROJECT AS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, ALMOST LIKE THE LIVING ROOM OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO HERE'S THE UPDATED HARDSCAPE. UM, I'LL HAVE, UH, GIANNA, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM, DISCUSS SOME OF THE ITEMS. SURE. GOOD MORNING. GIANNA OLI. IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO ALDO ROGELIO. HE DID AN AMAZING JOB, SORT OF, UH, COVERING A LOT OF THE POINTS. I THINK THAT THE CRITICAL PIECE FOR US TO CONVEY TODAY IS THAT AS WE HAD TO, UM, UH, MEDIATE SOME OF THE GRADING ISSUES, SOME OF THE RUNNING TRACKS AROUND THE AREA HAD TO BE SORT OF, UM, REPOSITIONED. UM, SO THAT EXISTING CONDITION ALONG THE STREET IS NOW WELL HARMONIZED. UM, A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY SORT OF CONVEYED EARLIER WAS THAT BESIDES PRESERVING ALL OF THE SEA GRAPES AND THE COCONUT PALMS AND THE BIS MARKET PALMS ALONG COLLINS, UM, WE ALSO MADE AN ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE SOME ROYAL POSANA AND SEA GRAPE TREES THAT ARE ON THE HARDING SIDE. UM, WE'RE REALLY HARD PRESSED TO TRY TO PRESERVE THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE, UM, THAT HEAVY DARK LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH WEST AND NORTH IS AN FPL EASEMENT. AND THEY LITERALLY WANTED EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE. NOTHING COULD GROW TALLER THAN 12 FEET. SO IT WAS A VERY ONEROUS SORT OF RESTRICTION THAT THEY PUT ON US. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR, AT OUR, AT OUR PLANTING PLANT, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALL TREES. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUSHING THE ENVELOPE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO CREATE AS MUCH OF A CANOPY THERE. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THE LEGIBILITY OF THAT WESTERN FACADE AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN SOUTHBOUND ON HARDING, AT LEAST TO TRY TO USE THE LANDSCAPING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO SORT OF SOFTEN THAT. SO WHAT WE DID WAS THAT, UM, ON THE TOP LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE SORT OF WHITE BOX. THOSE ARE EXISTING TREES THAT WERE SORT OF CREATING SOME RETAINING WALLS AROUND THERE AND, AND ADDING A SEAT WALL THERE WITH SOME, UM, UH, UH, TREATED WOOD THAT HAS A LIFESPAN OF ABOUT 30 YEARS. UM, IT'S A SOFT WOOD THAT'S, UH, UH, SORT OF PLASTICIZED. UM, AND IT HAS A REALLY, SORT OF LONG A LONGEVITY, IT PATRONIZES AS NORMAL AS WOOD WOULD. SO IT'S GONNA HAVE THAT LOOK AND FEEL. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALL OF OUR LANDSCAPING IS MOSTLY NATIVE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE SHORELINE, YOU KNOW, HAVING DONE WORK ON THE BEACH FOR MANY YEARS, WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THE SALT SPRAY, UM, AND THAT SHEER WIND. SO A LOT OF OUR VEGETATION IS SALT TOLERANT AND MORE APPLICABLE FOR, UH, SORT OF THE DUNE. UM, UH, ROGELIO HAD ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT THE JOGGING PATH BEING ADJUSTED WITH REGARDS TO THE EXISTING GRADES. UM, ONE THING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD WAS SOME LEVEL OF GROUND, SOME GROUND LEVEL ACTIVATION, AND SOME EXERCISE EQUIPMENTS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTH, SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWEST CORNERS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WITH SOME, WITH SOME EXERCISE AND VITA COURSE TYPE EQUIPMENT TO SORT OF GENERATE AS MUCH SORT OF GROUND LEVEL ACTIVITY AS POSSIBLE IN LIGHT OF THE FITNESS TRAIL THAT'S GOING AROUND THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GIANNA. SO, UH, MOVING ON TO, UM, THE VIEWS. I KNOW MOST OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT. UM, WE JUST WANNA POINT OUT SOME OF THE, THE [00:40:01] CHANGES WHICH WE THINK ARE REALLY, UM, MINIMAL TO THE IMPACT OF THE DESIGN. UM, BUT JUST WANNA POINT THEM OUT TO YOU, UM, THE, THE, THE ITEMS THAT ROGELIO HAS ALREADY LISTED. UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE INCREASE THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE PARAPET. UM, WE'VE, UH, CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE GUARDRAIL TO BE, UH, ANODIZED ALUMINUM PICKET, UH, PICKET FENCE. UM, AND WE'VE, HERE, YOU CAN'T SEE IT IN THE VIEW VERY WELL, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, POINTED OUT THE, THE COLUMNS THROUGHOUT THE, UH, FREESTANDING COLUMNS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED TO, UH, REALLY INCORPORATE BETTER WITH THE REQUIRED STRUCTURAL NEEDS, UM, BUT ALSO TO IMPLEMENT A, A NICER, MORE, UH, ELEGANT, COHESIVE DESIGN. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'LL BE MOVING AROUND THE, THE PROJECT. I'LL TRY TO MOVE QUICKLY. UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE ON THIS VIEW A LITTLE BETTER, UM, WHERE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UH, SOME NEW CON CONCRETE, PAINTED CONCRETE BEAMS AND ALUMINUM, UH, FINS TO, UH, BASICALLY CONCEAL THE, UM, ROOFTOP, UM, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. UM, THIS IS THE VIEW NOW LOOKING FROM HARDING AND 72ND, AGAIN, POINTING OUT THE, THE CONCRETE BEAMS AND, AND ALUMINUM FINS. UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE GUARDRAIL DESIGN HAS, IS BASICALLY CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIGN, UM, IN THIS LOCATION, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE TREES THAT GIANNA WAS TALKING ABOUT ON HARDING SIDE AND ALONG THE S SWALES ON 72ND STREET. UM, THIS IS JUST A, A ROOF PLAN INDICATING AND SHOWING THE LOCATION WHERE THE ALUMINUM FINS, UH, AND BEAMS ARE INCORPORATED TO CONCEAL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. UM, THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING SOUTH, UM, SOUTHEAST. UM, HERE YOU CAN START TO SEE A GLIMPSE OF THE ART, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF, UH, IN A LITTLE BIT WITH ELENA. UM, AND HE, UH, ALSO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SIDE WHERE WE'VE CHANGED THE, UM, THE METAL, THE GLAZING ON THE NORTH WALL TO BE, UH, A, UM, METAL PERFORATED METAL PANELS. UM, AGAIN, INTRODUCING THE ART, UH, AS WELL, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT. SO SOME OF THE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN UPDATED. UM, WE'VE, UH, INC INCORPORATED THE FLEX FACADE PRODUCT, NOT ONLY IN THE ART, WITH ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, UH, CONCEPT, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT ON ON A FEW OTHER ELEVATIONS, WHICH I'LL, I'LL POINT OUT. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, THE PANELS, UH, JUST ON THE GROUND FLOOR, YOU CAN, UH, WITH A STRIPING, THE BLUE, UH, BLUE AND WHITE STRIPING THAT WILL ALSO BE PART OF THE FLEX FACADE. UM, SO WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN ELENA'S, UM, REALLY BRILLIANT DESIGN AND INCORPORATED INTO THROUGHOUT THE, THE REST OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING A MURAL ON THE THIRD LEVEL AS WELL. THIS IS, UH, ELEVATION ON THE SOUTH. YOU CAN START TO SEE THE, THE NEW COLUMN DESIGN, THE, UH, V-SHAPED COLUMNS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED. AND HERE'S A, A KIND OF A FOCUSED RENDERING ON THE ENTRY OF THE BUILDING, THE MAIN ENTRY OF THE BUILDING WITH THE, THE NEW V-SHAPED COLUMNS. WE'VE ALSO INTEGRATED, UH, THE NEW PARKING GARAGE SIGNAGE TO MAKE IT MORE, UH, MORE INTEGRATED WITH THE NEW DESIGN OF THE COLUMNS. THIS IS, UM, I'M GONNA MOVE AROUND THE BUILDINGS. THESE ARE SOME, UH, STREET VIEWS THAT YOU CAN SEE. THIS IS FROM, UH, COLLINS, AND, UH, 72ND STREET PLAZA, UH, FROM 72ND STREET, DIRECTLY IN FRONT, UH, FROM 72ND STREET. UH, THIS IS A VIEW YOU'LL GET FROM, UH, HARDING AVENUE AS YOU'RE DRIVE MOVING NORTH. UM, THIS IS, UH, CORNER OF HARDING AND 72ND LOOKING, UH, NORTHEAST. UH, THIS IS, UH, THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH, UH, SOUTHEAST ON 73RD AND HARDING. HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THOSE, UH, VERTICAL STRIPES IS WHERE WE'VE, UH, CONVERTED THE GLAZING, UM, INTO, UH, ALUMINUM METAL PANELS. AND THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH, UH, WEST FROM 70, UH, 73RD. AND COLLINS, THIS IS, UH, THE PLAZA OUTSIDE OF THE RETAIL SPACE. AND NOW, UH, WE'LL BE MOVING INTO THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PRESENTATION. SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ELENA MAR MANINI. NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GLAD TO BE HERE. UM, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. I THINK ART DID A GREAT JOB AND WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. UM, THE ART [00:45:01] IS CALLED RISING. UM, AND RISING TRANSFORMS THE GARAGE FACADE INTO A PLAYFUL, UPLIFTING, UH, EXPERIENCE INSPIRED BY WATER AND MOVEMENT, UH, THROUGH VIBRANT AQUAS AND ENERGETIC PATTERNS. THE ARTWORK ANIMATES THE ARCHITECTURAL SURFACE OF THE BUILDING AND REALLY STARTS TO BE A PRESENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, SITUATED NEAR, UH, MIAMI BEACH WITHIN A COASTAL ENVIRONMENT, SHAPED BY SUNLIGHT, OCEAN BREEZE, AND STUDY PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC, WE WANTED TO GIVE THE SITES A STRONG VISIBILITY AND ALSO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SURROUNDING FABRICS. WE WANTED ALSO TO RESPOND TO THE PARTY CENTER IDENTITY. THE ARTWORK WANTS TO ECHO THE MOVEMENT AND ENERGY OF THE POOLS, THE WATER ACTIVITIES, AND OFFER VISUAL INTERESTS FROM DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINTS, TURNING THE PARKING LOTS INTO A CANVAS FOR COLOR FORM, AND BRINGING A SENSE OF DELIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ENFORCING THIS BUILDING CONNECTION TO WATER, RECREATION, AND COMMUNITY LIFE. THIS DIAGRAM CAPTURES THE FLOW OF A WAVE, AND THAT MOTION IS THEN MAPPED ONTO THE FACADE TO GUIDE THE OVERALL COMPOSITION OF THE SCREEN OF THE GARAGE. HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE ARTWORK. YOU CAN SEE A DAYTIME PERSPECTIVE FOR THE ARTER THAT WRAP IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE AND BEHIND THE STAIRS. GOING CLOSER TO THIS, YOU CAN START SEEING THE TWO ELEMENTS NEXT TO EACH OTHER. THE FACADE, ONE, MEANING THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE AND THE FACADE. TWO, THE SCREEN BEHIND THE STAIRS FACADE ONE IS DIVIDED INTO MULTIPLE LAYERS. SO IT'S NOT JUST FLAT. IT ACTUALLY HAS A MINIMUM DEPTH 3, 8, 12 FEET. SO WITHIN THAT DEPTH, WE ARE CREATING MOTION SHADOWS, INTEREST. IT IS A CLOSE UP TO UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE WORK WITH THE DEPTH AND THE GEOMETER OF THE PIECE, AND ALSO TO SEE IN A CLOSEUP THE PERFORATION OF THE SCREEN ITSELF. AND WE BROUGHT, WE BROUGHT HERE A SAMPLE AND I'LL, I'LL GO MORE INTO DETAILS IN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, BEHIND THE STAIRS, WE'RE MOVING INTO THE SAME MOTIF OF COLORS, BUT GOING INTO, UH, PAINT ELEMENTS. ALSO, WE WANTED TO OFFER A VIEW IN THE NIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO A FEATURE OF THE ART PIECE. UH, THIS WOULD BE ALSO ILLUMINATED IN THE NIGHTTIME. SO EVENING AND NIGHT, UH, WILL HAVE ALSO SPECIAL ILLUMINATION THAT WILL BRING TO LIFE, UH, THE ARTWORK AND THE BUILDING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE LIGHTING WILL HAPPEN IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO ILLUMINATE AS, UH, LIVELY AS POSSIBLE. THIS, UH, PIECE OF ART, UM, GOING INTO THE MATERIAL ITSELF, WE ARE IMAGINING TO USE FLEX FACADES, WHICH IS A DECORATIVE SCREENING SYSTEM CONSISTING OF ALUMINUM EXTRUSION, WHICH IS MAYBE A SAMPLE HERE, IF YOU WANNA SEE IS AN ALUMINUM EXTRUSION. UM, THE TENSION, THE FABRIC SKIN, UH, MADE OF DURABLE PES. AND I'LL GO A BIT MORE IN DETAIL ON THIS, IS A TURNKEY SYSTEM, UH, THAT CAN BE SURFACE MOUNTED, UH, TO A CONCRETE STRUCTURE OR ALSO ATTACHED TO A STEEL FRAMEWORK. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE BOTH THIS CONDITION, PART OF IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE CONCRETE TO SPAN AND PART WILL BE FRAMED, UH, ON METAL. AND THEREFORE WE'RE GONNA GET SOME DEPTH INTO THIS FACADE. UM, IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, THE SYSTEM HELPS REDUCE HEAT AND GLARE WHILE STILL ALLOWING VENTILATION. IT IS ALSO A LIGHTWEIGHT AND DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS WITH LOW MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. IT SUPPORTS GRAPHICS AND COLORS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DEVELOP, UH, THE FACADE PATTERN AND MATERIAL IS FULLY RECYCLABLE, WHICH IS ALSO, I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT, UH, COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT. UM, THE PES VENTILATED MESH IS SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT IS A POLY VINYL COATED POLYESTER MESH WITH ADDITIONAL PROTECTIVE COATING FOR DURABILITY AND LONGEVITY. IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, IT PROVIDES SHADING AND SCREENING WHILE REDUCING HEAT GAIN AND MAINTAINING AIR FLOW. IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, THE MATERIAL IS LOW AND EASY TO CLEAN. SURFACE MAINTENANCE, IT CAN BE CLEANED USING STANDARD SOUP, LOW PRESSURE WATER TO REMOVE DIRT AND DUST. AND THE CLEANING PROCESS IS SIMILAR TO OTHER FACILE MATERIALS. AND THE FREQUENCY IS ALSO SIMILAR TO METAL ONLY. BASICALLY WHEN APPEAR TO [00:50:01] BE VISUALLY DIRTY, THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED FOR LONG TERM USE WITH AN EXD LIFESPAN OF 20 YEARS, AND WORKS WELL ACROSS A VARIETY OF CLIMATES. IT ALSO MEETS FIRE RATING REQUIREMENTS THAT COMES WITH A 10 YEAR MINIMUM WARRANTY. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE, VERY FEW OF THE MANY ACTUALLY, UH, PROJECT THAT, THAT ARE ALREADY MADE WITH THIS KIND OF SYSTEM. AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN MIAMI. SO I WANTED TO GIVE A SENSE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN USED BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY OF MIAMI. AND THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE A RANGE OF BUILDING TYPES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS TO PARKING STRUCTURES. SO I CAN OPEN NOW TO THE QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY, ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES BEFORE WE OPEN THE MEETING. OKAY. ANYBODY IN THE, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TODAY IN PUBLIC? ANYBODY ONLINE? IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. NOBODY ONLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THE ART THAT YOU JUST DEMONSTRATED, THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE WEST FACADE BY HARDING AVENUE. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, SAMPLES OR PICTURES OF THE FACADE THAT THE CITY OWNS, UH, FROM ANOTHER SITE THAT MAY BE UTILIZED? THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE UTILIZATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FACADE? I, I BELIEVE THERE IS A PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED WITH THE SAME SYSTEM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN, IT'S BEEN INSTALLED YET. UH, I'M REFERRING TO THE, UM, CIP NOTICE THAT THERE WAS SOME ART WORK THAT THEY OWNED. OH, MURAL. OH, SORRY. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE MURAL? YES. UM, YES, WE, WE HAVE A RENDERING OF A, A POTENTIAL LOCATION. UM, IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE PRESENTATION AND GO TO SLIDE 57. SO THIS IS A, A RENDERING THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AS PART OF A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR THE TWO, THE FOUR MURALS. AND IT WOULD BE A GROUND LEVEL. YES. YEAH. AND IS THERE ANY PICTURES OF THAT ARTWORK, MURALS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED? I, I DO NOT HAVE THEM, BUT, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THEM WITH YOU. DOES THAT REQUIRE THEM COMING BACK TO DRB AT A LATER TIME? WE, WE HAVE A CONDITION IN THERE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PROCEED SHOULD THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE IT. UM, THERE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL THE BUILDING. IT HAD A MURAL THAT WAS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, UM, BETSY ROSS. BETSY ROSS. UM, AND WHERE, I FORGET THE OTHER TWO. WHERE, WHERE WAS IT? IT WAS ON LINCOLN ROAD. THERE WAS A WELLS FARGO BANK BUILDING. THERE WERE TILED MOSAIC MURALS. MM-HMM . UM, ALONG THE FACADES OF THE, OF THE BANK BUILDING. OH, YES. OKAY. ON LINCOLN AND ALTON. LINCOLN AND ALTON, YES. OKAY. YES, I REMEMBER. MM-HMM . UM, RAMIRO, I THINK RAMIRO . ROGELIO ROMERO USED TO BE THE WHATEVER, UH, ROGELIO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF CIP AND, UM, PROP PROPERTY ZONED, UM, GOVERNMENT USE. WHAT IS THE REQUIRED ZONING CODE FOR PERMEABLE AREA VERSUS NONPERMEABLE? THE GOVERNMENT USE TAKES ON THE AVERAGE OF THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS IN THIS CASE, THE AVERAGE, UM, WE HAVE TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE TCC, WHICH IS THE TOWN CENTER OF CENTRAL CORE, UM, WHICH, UH, HAS NO OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, THOUGH IT DOES HAVE SETBACKS. UM, AND THEN TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S RM ONE, WHICH DOES HAVE AN OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OF, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 60%. SO WE WOULD TAKE THE AVERAGE OF THAT. AND YOU DON'T TAKE THE EAST AND WEST? EAST AND WEST IS ALSO GOVERNMENT USE. OKAY. SO, SO AS FAR AS YOU, ALL THE WAY TO THE WATER'S GOVERNMENT USE, YOU DON'T TAKE THAT BECAUSE GOVERNMENT USE HAS NO REGULATION. IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY YOU TAKE THE SURROUNDING, WELL, WHAT THE PERMEABLE AREA CURRENTLY IS IN THE EAST SIDE AND ON THE WEST SIDE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOVERNMENT USE, YOU DON'T TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION IN CALCULATING THE AVERAGE. NO, NO. WE WOULD JUST TAKE THE, THE ADJACENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT GOVERNMENT USE. SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT END UP BEING AND WHERE ARE THEY IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE REQUIRED [00:55:02] PERMEABLE AREA? 60 PLUS 102, IT LOOKS LIKE IT REQUIRES 80%. UM, IT ALLOWS 80% TO BE PAVED, SO ONLY REQUIRES 20% TO BE OPEN. AND THEY, AND THEY EXCEED THAT WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS. YEAH. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS, BUT I, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW SOME THINGS THAT COME TO US WE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND OR AGREE WITH MM-HMM . UM, IF WE REQUIRE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO HAVE PERMEABLE AREAS IN THE BACK AND IN THE FRONT AND ON THE SIDES OF 50% MM-HMM . UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD SET THE EXAMPLE. THE CITY SHOULD SET THE EXAMPLE AND MAKE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS FOR GOVERNMENT USE PROPERTIES. ITS OWN THE PROPERTIES. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS AREA DOES FLOOD. MM-HMM . AND THE ONLY PERMEABLE AREA IS BY COLLINS AVENUE. UM, VERY SMALL AREA ON THE NORTH, ON THE WEST, AND ON THE SOUTH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WALKWAYS THAT ARE BEING INCORPORATED. AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A DISCUSSION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD MAY OF 20, 25 MM-HMM . AND MAYBE WE DID, I DON'T RECALL, BUT THE WALKWAYS, ARE THEY PERMEABLE MATERIAL RIGHT NOW? THEY JUST SHOW AS CONCRETE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT, THAT WE COULD CONSIDER USING, UH, UM, UM, A PERMEABLE TURF LIKE MATERIAL. I DUNNO IF THAT'S, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WE COULD, UH, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. UM, THE OTHER, I I THINK IT ROGELIO AND I RO I KEEP ON CALLING YOU RO NO, YOU WERE RIGHT. THAT ROGELIO'S RIGHT? YOU WERE RIGHT THAT TIME. OKAY. IT'S RAMIRO, BUT I'LL ANSWER ANYTHING WITH AN R. RAMIRO WAS, AND EVEN AN R WAS THE DEPUTY, UM, TO THE CITY MANAGER WHEN I WAS HERE. THAT'S WHY, UM, WONDERFUL GUY, BY THE WAY. ANYWAY, UM, I, I THINK THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR LATER ON MM-HMM . I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS, BUT IF WE ARE A CITY WHERE WE ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND EVEN IN MULTI-USE PROPERTIES, THAT THERE BE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF PERMEABLE AREA BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT SURROUND US, CERTAINLY GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE THE LEADING ROLE IN THAT IN ITS GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW, LANDS YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA SEE LIKE RAIN GARDENS AND LIKE A UPPER, UH, UPPER BUFFER FOR LIKE, UM, CISTERN? I'M SORRY? CISTERN. CISTERN. SOME TYPE OF WATER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT'S NATURAL. NO, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE GREEN SPACE. YEAH. NOT THE CISTERN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IN, IN TURKEY OR ANYTHING, BUT NOT THE CISTERN. THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY CAN INCORPORATE ONE FOR THE COLLECTION OF RAINWATER, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE MORE PERMEABLE, MORE GREEN SPACE, GREEN GARDEN AS WE HOMEOWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE. SURE. AT, AT A VERY LARGE EXPENSE. UM, WELL, THIS BUILDING BEING LEAD DOES IT HOW WATER RETENTION ON SITE FOR ALL THE IMPERMEABLE SURFACES. UM, WHERE I THINK THE, THE MICROPHONE IS OFF . THERE YOU GO. OH, WE ARE HANDLING MOST OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WITH DRAINAGE WELLS. IT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR MIAMI BEACH. UM, WE DO HAVE ON ONSITE CISTERN FOR COLLECTING RAINWATER AND FOR IRRIGATION. I THINK YOUR POINT IS, IS, IS GOOD. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANNA, I THINK IT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THIS PROJECT, UNFORTUNATELY, AS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD POINT I WILL BRING UP, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MAY, 2025 MEETING, UM, THAT THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE US, AND THE CITY WAS RELUCTANT TO CONTINUE CITY AND ARCHITECTS WERE RELUCTANT TO CONTINUE SPEAKING WITH FPL FOR THE UNDERGROUNDING OF WIRES THAT GO FROM, UM, ACROSS HARDING AVENUE, WHICH IS A MAJOR TRAFFIC STREET. AND YET WE ARE BUILDING AND SPENDING AS A COMMUNITY, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN NORTH BEACH AND IN THIS PROPERTY AS WE DID IN THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY THAT'S BEFORE US NOW THIS PROJECT. AND YET WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LINE GOING ACROSS HARDING AVENUE AND ALL BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERGROUND, DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH FPL. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH THE CITY, BUT IF HOMES CAN DO IT, CERTAINLY, UM, A PROJECT LIKE THIS SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT. I THINK MOST OF THE LOCAL LINES ARE BEING UNDERGROUNDED. THE ISSUE IS, IS THE HIGH TENSION LONG DISTANCE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH IS A, WHICH TRANSMITS A LOT OF ELECTRICITY FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, BUT THE, [01:00:01] THE LOCAL LINES ARE BEING UNDERGROUNDED. IT'S JUST THAT HIGH A TENSION LINE. THERE'S, THERE'S SORT OF THE SOLUTION IS THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE BLOCK RIGHT NOW. IT RUNS THROUGH THE BLOCK BECAUSE IT'S A SUR SURFACE PARKING LOT. UM, SO THEY'VE DIVERTED IT SO THAT THE POWER GOES AROUND THE BLOCK. UM, BUT I I, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. I, I, I, YOU KNOW, COLLINS AVENUE, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM YEARS AGO IS UNDERGROUNDED MM-HMM . AND CERTAINLY IF WE CAN UNDERGROUND COLLINS AVENUE WITH ALL OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE ON COLLINS, THIS IS A, ANOTHER POTENTIAL PROJECT. AND CIP REALLY HAS TO TAKE THE ROLE ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD FIGHT WITH FPL TO DO THEIR PIECE OF THIS. SURE. IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S NOT WITH ALL THE MONEY. I DON'T EVEN WANNA KNOW THE BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT . UH, BUT IT'S A SHAME THAT WE'RE NOT UNDERGROUNDING, WE'RE STILL GONNA LOOK LIKE THE SARAH CAROUSEL OF PROGRESS IN DISNEY, WHERE WE STILL HAVE WIRES RUNNING EVERY WHICH WAY. I DO REMEMBER THAT MEETING COMING UP IN MAY LAST YEAR WHERE IT WAS REQUESTED, AND IT REALLY IS SAD THAT WE STILL ARE AT THIS POINT AGAIN. UM, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS, IF WE AS HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO DO IT AND WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO CERTAIN THINGS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED WORKING WITH FP AND L AND THEY'RE A LITTLE ACCOMMODATING. SO I GOTTA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE SHOULD PUSH FP AND L FOR AN UNDERGROUNDING AS WELL. AND I APOLOGIZE, YOUR ARTWORK IS BEAUTIFUL AND THE PROJECT IS BEAUTIFUL. YES. IT'S, AND IT'LL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THE NORTH BEACH AREA AND I, THE LIGHTING OF IT, OF THE EFFECT OF THE, UM, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, MURAL. SO KUDOS TO THAT. BUT THE REALLY, THE UNDERWING WAS A CONCERN BACK THAT I NEEDED HIS CONCERN TODAY. CHAIR, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, I WAS JUST WAITING TO BE CALLED, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO CALL. OH, GO. RIGHT. THOSE LINES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MS. OLI ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO ON THE WEST SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AQUATIC CENTER, AND IT GOES FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE, UM, I GUESS ON THE, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S IN FRONT OF THE, IN FRONT OF THE ART ACROSS HARDING AVENUE. RIGHT. IT CROSSES HARDING AVENUE. YOU ABOVE THE, FROM THE, FROM THE YOUTH CENTER TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. IT, IT CROSSES AT THE INTERSECTION AND IT GOES, CONTINUES EAST A SIDE. THE PROPERTY, IT, IT GOES, UH, FOLLOWS THE NORTH, IT GOES, IT GOES FROM SOUTH TO NORTH, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT GOES FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. UM, YOU KNOW, I, AND THEN CROSSES HARDING AND THEN CROSSES HARDING. I MEAN, I, I CONCUR, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE CITY, UM, DOESN'T DO THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DELAY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT HURTS IN THE LONG RUN THE SAME THING WITH, UM, HAVING, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE FIELDS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE FIELD IS NOT PERMITABLE THE FIELD THAT'S GONNA BE PUT ON THE EAST SIDE. NO, THAT SHOULDN'T BE PERFECT. IT'LL BE PERFECT. IT'S GONNA HAVE WELLS. WELL, AS A, ANY PERFECT EXAMPLE YOU SAY WE SHOULD, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU GO TO FLAMINGO PARK AND IT RAINS AND IT'S FLAMINGO LAKE, BECAUSE THAT WHOLE ENTIRE FIELD IN FLAMINGO PARK, UH, BECOMES A LAKE EVERY SINGLE TIME IT RAINS. SO YOU WOULD ASSUME IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT. SO WHY IS IT THAT FLAMINGO PARK BECOMES A LAKE ON THE FIELD? MY THOUGHT IS BECAUSE FLAMINGO PARK WAS DONE BACK IN 94, 95, AND BACK THEN FLOODING WASN'T SO MUCH OF THE ISSUE AT HAND. UM, SO EXFILTRATION SYSTEMS AND WELLS WERE NOT INCORPORATED INTO THESE PROJECTS AND INTO EVEN SOME OF THE SMALLER PARKS. BUT THIS IS A NEW PROJECT. AND CERTAINLY THEY HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY ADD CISTERNS AND WELLS, POSSIBLY DO EXFILTRATION SYSTEMS FOR WHAT GOOD THEY ARE FOR 10 YEARS, UM, BUT, BUT ALSO INCREASE IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, UM, ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY, HAVING THEM HAVE THE SAME BURDEN AS THE REST OF THE CITY. I HEAR YOU. I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP JUST IN CASE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE ASSUME AND THEN THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T HAPPEN. WHAT IS THE ELEMENTS INSIDE OF THIS AQUATIC CENTER THAT ARE UNDER AC NOT GARAGE ELEMENTS? WHAT ARE THEIR VIEW CORRIDORS THROUGH THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE OUTSIDE? BECAUSE I KEPT ON LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL FLOOR PLANS TO SEE HOW THEY INTERACT, AND I COULDN'T FIND THEM ON THIS. DO YOU HAVE THEM HERE? CAN WE PUT 'EM UP? I SEE ALL THE EXTERIOR BRIDGE. CAN YOU SHOW ME [01:05:01] AN I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING FROM THE INSIDE LOOKING OUT. I'M NOT SAYING JUST THE PLAN ITSELF. THE FLOOR PLAN. THE FLOOR PLAN. UM, SORRY, I, I THINK THESE ARE ALL THE FLOOR PLANS THAT I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT. UM, I JUST, WE, WE DIDN'T BRING THE FULL DETAILED FLOOR PLANS BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT'S NOT, THAT WASN'T BEING MODIFIED. UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW 'EM TO YOU. WE HAVE THE PRIOR PROOF PLANS THAT HAVE THEM. IF YOU NEED, IF YOU NEED. I, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE OUTSIDE DESIGN OR WHEN YOU'RE THERE, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DESIGN ELEMENT FOR THE INSIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S THAT RETAIL SPOT THAT'S ON THE END. WHAT, HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT'S THE LOOK AND FEEL FROM THE INSIDE OUT OR FROM THE OUTSIDE IN? HOW DOES THAT INTERACT? HOW MUCH RE RETAIL, HOW MUCH OFFICE RETAIL SPACE IS THERE BETWEEN THE LIBRARY, THE OTHER SIDE IN TOTAL? CAN YOU JUST GIVE US THERE? THERE'S VERY LIMITED, UH, OFFICE SPACE. THE ONLY OFFICE SPACE IS REALLY THE AQUATICS OFFICE SPACE. MM-HMM . UM, THE REST IS REALLY COMMUNITY CENTER. UM, THERE'S, UH, TWO MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS AND, UM, PRE-FUNCTION SPACE. UM, YOU HAVE THE RECEPTION AREA FOR THE AQUATICS, BUT MOST OF THAT IS REALLY TAKEN UP BY THE LOCKER ROOMS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL, ALL THE LOCKER ROOMS AND RESTROOMS AND STORAGE, STORAGE, STORAGE. SO THE LIBRARY THAT'S THERE IS HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? AND WHAT'S THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE OUTSIDE DESIGNS AND THE INSIDE? DO WE HAVE ANY OF THAT? THE LIBRARY IS 7,500 SQUARE FEET, MORE OR LESS. UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET. AQUATIC CENTER IS 7,900 SQUARE FEET FITNESS CENTER, 7,900 SQUARE FEET. AND LET ME GET YOU, I DON'T HAVE THE RETAIL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. LEMME, IS THERE ANY OF THE EXTERIOR ART THAT INTERACTS WITH THE WINDOWS AND WHATNOT OF THESE SPACES? AND HOW DOES THAT LOOK FROM THE INSIDE OR FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN OR VICE VERSA? THE, THE, UM, ARTISTIC MURAL WILL BE ONLY ON THE GARAGE FACADE, SO IT WON'T BE BLOCKING ANY OF THE WINDOWS OF ANY OF THE COMMUNITY SPACE. THE COMMUNITY SPACE IS PRIMARILY LOOKING TO THE SOUTH, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE, INTO THE EAST. UM, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE WINDOWS. THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T HAVE BLOCKED VIEWS FROM THE, FROM ANY OF THIS. AND THAT COMMUNITY SPACES IS ON WHICH FLOOR? IT'S ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THIRD FLOOR. ON THE THIRD FLOOR. WE DESIGNED, WE DESIGNED ALL THE OCCUPIED MECHANICAL, UM, AC SPACES TO HAVE VIEWS TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE BEACH. THAT WAS THE, THE MAIN FOCUS. SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THE, UM, YOU SEE THE BUILDINGS ARE, OR THE OCCUPIED SPACES ARE KIND OF ON THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE MAIN PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SPACE HAD A VIEW TOWARDS THE WATER. OKAY. HOW IS IT THAT I COULD GET AT MY HANDS ON THE UPDATED PLANS OR WHATEVER IT SHOWS, UH, THE AC SPACE IN THOSE AREAS? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM, I THINK THE PLANS. YEAH, THE PLANS ARE ONLINE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, YOU PLANS, THEY'RE ONLINE. I, I CLICKED ON IT. I COULDN'T FIND IT, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A MURAL ON THE, ON THE FACADE AT THE THIRD FLOOR IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON THAT, ON THAT WALL, RIGHT. FACING THE, THE SECOND POOL. IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF THE OFFICE. IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE GARAGE. WALL. WALL. OKAY. THE, THE RETAIL AREA IS 5,300 SQUARE FEET. UM, SO IT'S A SMALL RETAIL BAY, UM, THAT'S IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. NORTHEAST CORNER. YEAH. YEAH. IS IT MULTIPLE? NO. NORTHEAST OR NORTHWEST? NORTHEAST. NORTHEAST. NORTHEAST. YEAH. SO IT'S CLOSEST TO, TO THE OCEAN. UH, TO THE OCEAN. TO THE OCEAN TERRACE. RIGHT. COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, MULTIPLE RETAIL SPACES. I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO RETAIL BAYS THAT CAN BE DIVIDED UP TO TWO RETAIL BAYS. OR IT CAN BE COMBINED. IT COULD BE COMBINED. IT COULD BE MULTIPLE CO OR TOTAL 5,300 SQUARE FEET. YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS PAGE 71 SHOWS AT LEAST A GROUND LEVEL FOOTPRINT. I DO THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. WELL, I GUESS JUST TOO, NOT BE TOO LATE TO COMMENT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE CAFE, LIKE ON PAGE 46, I KNOW THEY ADDED SOME WINDOWS TO MAKE IT MORE HOSPITAL TO MORE RETAIL LIKE, BUT IT DOES KIND OF LOOK LIKE A BIT BLANK CANVAS WITHOUT ANY ONS. OR CAN WE LIGHT SCONCES? SORRY, CAN YOU PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN? UH, PAGE 46. PAGE 46 OF THE, OF THEIR PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE. LEMME GO TO THAT. YEAH, I'LL GO TO THE ELEVATIONS. YEAH, SO I KNOW THEY ADDED SOME ONE WINDOW BAY. SO THE, THE MAIN FOCUS FOR THE RETAIL SPACE. UM, ALSO JUST KEEPING THE CONSISTENCY OF THE DESIGN WITH THE SAWTOOTH CONCEPT. UM, WE AND ALL, AND ALSO KEEPING THE BUDGET IN MIND AND TRYING TO [01:10:01] MINIMIZE, UH, GLAZING IN ORDER TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. UH, WE'VE LOCATED A LOT OF THE GLAZING ON THE EAST FACADE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING IN GENERAL. ONE FOR VIEWS AND TWO FOR, UH, VISIBILITY FROM COLLINS AVENUE. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE KIND OF FOCUSED, UH, RENDERING WHERE YOU HAVE MOST OF THE GLAZING ON THE RETAIL FACADE. SO ALL OF THE, THESE THREE KIND OF STEPPED SECTIONS OF THE BUILDING ARE PART OF THE SAME RETAIL SPACE. AND ON THE, THE EAST SIDE, I, I'M SORRY. YOU, YOU ON THE, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WITH THE BUDGET, THE TWO BROKEN AT, THEY ADDED THE AWNING OR PUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE TO, TO ADD IT, ADD AWNING, AING IS WHEN SOMEONE TO MAKE IT MORE IDENT IDENTIFIABLE AS A RETAIL SPACE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT KIND OF JUST LOOKS LIKE A BLANK STORY. YOU, FOR SIGNAGE PURPOSES? FOR SIGNAGE OR JUST, UM, WELL, THE, THE IDEA WAS TO INTRODUCE SIGNAGE. THAT, THAT CAFE SIGN IS REALLY A PLACEHOLDER FOR WHATEVER TENANT DOES. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A TENANTS RIGHT. BEING DESIGNED AS A SHELL SPACE. UM, SO WHENEVER THERE IS A TENANT, THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT WALL TO, UM, BASICALLY, UM, MARKET THEIR, THEIR SPACE. YEAH. IT JUST KIND LOOKS LIKE A BOX RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE LAST TIME AND THEY, NO, WE DIDN'T. THEY IMPROVED IT WITH MORE GLAZING, BUT I STILL THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT SPACE AS YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH BECAUSE OF THE PLANTINGS IN FRONT OF IT AND THE STAIR. LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIMITED. IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE PAGE 71, AT LEAST WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND, AND PLAN. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THERE, IS THERE ENOUGH OUTDOOR SEATING FOR SOMEONE TO SIT LIKE OUTSIDE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER FUTURE TENANT IS, IS IN HERE? I KNOW I SEE A COUPLE CHAIRS ON, ON 71. UM, THAT IS A, A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT, THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE, WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THAT GLAZING BE EXPANDED TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE ON, ON THE NORTH FACADE THAT CAFE WOULD BE FOR. YEAH. AND WHAT ABOUT OUTDOOR SEATING? LIKE I SEE, I, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COVERED BY THE STAIR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT, YOU'RE KIND OF NICHED IN THERE, WHICH COULD BE GOOD WIND PROTECTION MM-HMM . UM, BUT IS THERE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, SAY THERE WANTS TO BE A, A, A CAFE, LIKE THEY, THEY WANT, IS THERE ENOUGH SEATING FOR PEOPLE TO SIT, LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING THEM IN THE RENDERING. AND I JUST LOOK AT THE, I LOOK AT THE PLAN ON PAGE 71 AND I LOOK AT THE CIRCULATION AND I'M JUST WONDERING IS, IS THERE GONNA BE, WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND SIT OUT THERE? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE IMPORTANT TO ME. UM, CAN, CAN YOU SHOW ALSO THE EAST SIDE, THE, THE, ON THE FIELD SIDE? THAT FIRST FLOOR IS IN ALL PARKING AND JUST COVERED WITH, UM, GLASS WALL EAST. MAYBE YOU COULD GO TO PAGE 71. SORRY, I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T SEE WHAT PAGE I'M ON. OH, OKAY. OKAY. KEEP, IT'S THE LAST PAGE. SECOND. THE LAST PAGE. I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE THE EAST FACADE OF THE BUILDING. MAYBE THIS IS NOT PART OF, THIS IS NOT THE SAME. OH, I'M, I'M LOOKING, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. THIS IS, SORRY. ARE YOU LOOKING? IT IT SAYS IT IN RED RIGHT IN FRONT OF, SORRY, WHAT IS THE, DOES IT HAVE THE PAGE NUMBER IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF YOURS? THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL SHEET? I'M, I'M LOOKING AT, CAN YOU, I'M TRYING TO FIND ONE THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE OF THIS VERSION IS. LEMME SEE. AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS HERE ON THIS FIRST FLOOR. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS WHERE THE MURALS ARE POTENTIALLY GONNA BE LOCATED. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT SAWTOOTH WALL WILL BE A COMBINATION OF STUCCO AND THE FLEX FACADE SCREEN, WHICH IS STEPPING, STEPPING DOWN AS IT PROGRESSES TOWARDS THE WALL. WHAT'S BEHIND THAT WALL? IT'S PARKING. PARKING. YEAH. I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I'M A LITTLE, I'M OVERALL FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PROJECT IN GENERAL. WHEN YOU PUT ON A DEVELOPER HAT OR A REAL ESTATE GUY'S HAT ON, AND YOU LOOK AT THIS SITE, THE MOST IMPORTANT SIDE OF THE SITE IS THE EAST SIDE. RIGHT? HERE'S, YOU HAVE YOUR WATER, YOU HAVE YOUR VIEWS, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THERE. AND, UM, THERE'S A COMMUNITY CENTER ON THE THIRD FLOOR ON THAT SITE, RIGHT? YEAH. UM, YES. ON THE THIRD. AND IT RUNS ALONG THE WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING. EAST FACADE, EAST FACADE, NOT ALONG THE ENTIRE FACADE, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT, ONE, WE WERE LIMITED WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE FOOTPRINT OF WHERE, HOW MUCH ACTUAL PROGRAM SPACE WE NEEDED, WE NEEDED TO INCORPORATE AS PART OF THE GEO BOND. SO WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE TO EVEN COVER THE WHOLE FACADE OF THE PARKING GARAGE. BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE, WHO'S WE AND WHY COULDN'T WE DO IT? I, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT, I THINK THE DCP WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED MANY YEARS AGO AND [01:15:01] IT HAD THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM, I THINK ON THAT THIRD FLOOR WHERE YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER. MM-HMM . WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE FACING EAST? WE HAVE THE, THE AQUATICS LOCKER ROOMS AND OFFICES. MM-HMM . THE STORAGE FOR THE, THE AQUATICS AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THOSE DON'T, UM, LEND THEMSELVES TO HAVING A VIEW, UM, TO BE CLEAR GLASS, UM, TOWARDS THE EAST, PARTWAY THEY ARE, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY HAVE GLASS TOWARDS, I MEAN, WHERE WHATEVER PROGRAM WAS LOGICAL IN ORDER TO HAVE GLAZING. A, A MASSIVE SECTION OF THAT IS THE LOCKER ROOMS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU DON'T GLASS. SO WHAT PORTION OF IT IS GLASS ON THE THIRD FLOOR FACING EAST? AND WHAT PORTION IS ALL THE, ALL THE SECTIONS THAT ARE, UH, FACING EAST? THE, THE, THE, THE BUILDING HAS A SAWTOOTH DESIGN. SO ALL THE, THE SMALLER SECTIONS OF THE SAWTOOTH DESIGN THAT FACE EAST, ALL OF THAT IS GLAZING. AND THEN ALSO IN FRONT OF THE RETAIL, THE, UM, RECEPTION OF THE AQUATICS, WHICH FACES EAST ALSO ON THE THIRD FLOOR HAS BEST GLASS ON THE THIRD FLOOR, ON THE THIRD FLOOR. I DON'T KNOW, ROGELIO, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD PUT THE EAST FACADE UP ON THE SCREEN FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT? I JUST THINK THAT IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING. NOT TO HAVE EITHER MORE RETAIL ON THE GROUND LEVEL, MORE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE FIELD, THE STREET LEVEL, AND THE OCEAN SIDE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE LEAVING A LOT ON THE TABLE AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO RUSH THIS PROJECT THROUGH, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT ANYMORE AND, AND LEAVE IT AS STATUS QUO. BUT I THINK IT'S A POOR DESIGN, UM, TO NOT TAKE THE HIGHEST VALUE OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE, AND PUT PARKING SPACES BEHIND THAT, THOSE WINDOWS. I JUST THINK IT'S INSANE. MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. UM, AND I THINK IT'S A LOST OPPORTUNITY. I ALSO THINK THERE'S A LOST OPPORTUNITY OF NOT ADDING MORE REAL ESTATE USAGE ONTO THAT MASSIVE STRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S FOR, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR, FOR KIDS OR WHATEVER IT IS TO HAVE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS BUILDING. THIS IS A MASSIVE POOL AND, UM, TWO POOL, AND WE'RE BUILDING A GARAGE AND A POOL, TWO MASSIVE POOLS AND A GARAGE AND A COMMUNITY CENTER OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE THIRD FLOOR THAT TO GET TO IS NOT GONNA BE EASY. AND THERE WAS 5,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, AND THEN HAVING THE WHOLE ENTIRE WALL ON THE RETAIL LEVEL BLOCKED BY PARKING. IT'S INSANE. IT'S INSANE. I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE DESIGN. UM, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTISTIC DESIGN, UH, BECAUSE ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER. WHAT I, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, THE ARTISTIC DESIGN THAT'S BEING DONE. I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BUILDING THE STRUCTURE, AND IT IS, UH, NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS SPACE. AND THERE'S NOT A DEVELOPER IN THE CITY ON THE PRIVATE SIDE THAT WOULD EVER ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. MR. CHAIR, PAGE 44 OF THE PRE PAGE 44 OF THE PRESENTATION HAS THE, THE EASTERN FACADE. CAN YOU PUT IT UP? IT WOULD BE SM FIVE. IT'S AFTER THE, THE SECTION, THE QUESTION SECTION. IT'S ONE OF THE SLIDES AFTER AT THE END. THAT ONE? YEAH. THERE'S A, THERE'S ONE THAT HAS A CLOSEUP. I MEAN, IT, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING MORE ATTENTION TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING FOR RETAIL. I THINK IT'S JUST CRAZY. I HAVE A QUESTION APPEAL. SORRY. YOU SAID IT WAS AFTER THE QUESTION? YEAH, AFTER THE SECTION. IT SAID QUESTIONS. IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY FAR INTO IT. OKAY. I SAID WE'RE CLOSE. THAT'S IT. THAT'S FINE. SO WHERE IT SAYS SWIM IS, IS, I MEAN, LOOK HOW MUCH ATTENTION WE HAVE ONTO THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS BUILDING ON THE REAL ESTATE THOUGHT PROCESS. AND THAT'S THE ONE RENDERING WE HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT. I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS HERE? WHAT HAPPENS ON THE RETAIL SIDE THERE? WHAT HAP I MEAN, THAT'S THE CURRENT DESIGN. PREVIOUS DESIGN. SO THE CURRENT DESIGN, IS THAT A SIDEWALK THERE? WHAT, WHAT IS THE DESIGN ELEMENT OF THAT WHOLE ENTIRE PROMENADE OF THE PROJECT AND WHY IS IT NOT BEING FEATURED HERE? SO THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE RUNNING LOOP THAT IS RUNNING IN FRONT OF THOSE, UM, SECTIONS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING SHOULD BE [01:20:01] GLAZING. UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE RUNNING LOOP. SO THIS, THIS PART WASN'T, UM, VERY FEW MODIFICATIONS WERE RECOMMENDED, WERE BEING REQUESTED AT THIS POINT. SO THIS PART WAS ALREADY APPROVED. SO THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T HIGHLIGHTED AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN, IN OCTOBER. UM, THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN PULL UP THE, THE PLANS OF WHAT WAS APPROVED, UM, IN OCTOBER. I DUNNO IF WE CAN SHOW THEM ON THE SCREEN. AND THEN WE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DO WE NEED TWO POOLS? AND RIGHT. ONE IS SO BIG AND I, I HEAR IT. I I, AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S OVERKILL TO DO HAVE THIS, WE'RE ALREADY ON THE HORSE, BUT I THINK IT'S OVERKILL TO HAVE THIS WHOLE ENTIRE STRUCTURE FOR THESE TWO MASSIVE POOLS, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SITE AND NOT INCORPORATE MORE THE GROUND LEVEL TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS BUILDING YOU AFTER SO MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE GONNA BE SPENT ON THIS BUILDING JUST TO HAVE POOL IN A GARAGE. TO ME, IT'S INSANE. LIKE, WHY ARE WE NOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN DEVELOPERS COME OVER TO THE CITY AND THEY'RE IN FRONT OF US HERE AND IN THE BOARD AND THE LAND USE BOARDS, YOU KNOW, WE DEMAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CONNECTIVITY FOR THE PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW IS THAT USE GONNA BE? HOW IS THAT GONNA FLOW? AND THEN HERE WE HAVE THE WHOLE ENTIRE FACADE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THIS BUILDING HAVE NO INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY FACING THE WATER. IT'S A WALL TO COVER PARKING SPACES. IT'S INSANE. WELL, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS A REQUIREMENT TO MEET 500 PARKING SPACES. IT WAS THE ONLY WAY I UNDERST THEN I WOULD'VE BUILT ANOTHER FLOOR. YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE ANSWER IS NOT STATUS QUO SAYING, HEY, LET'S JUST BUILD A WALL AND PUT THE PARKING SPACES BECAUSE WE NEED MORE PARKING SPACES. SO LET'S TAKE THE MOST IMPORTANT SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND MAKE IT PARKING SPACES AND PUT A WALL IN FRONT OF IT. HOW DO WE GET HERE? LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YEAH. UH, LET ME, LET ME ADD THIS AND, AND ON. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND WE'RE ON THE HORSE ALREADY AND GOING BACK AND REDESIGNING THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, MAY NOT BE A FEASIBLE THING TO DO. BUT ALL THESE CITY PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED BY COMMUNITY, BY GROUPS OF PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, THE NORTH BEACH DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. IF THEY'RE STILL AROUND, I ASSUME, IF NOT THE RESIDENTS, THEN THERE'S COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND EVERYBODY GIVES INPUT. AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT ISN'T TOTALLY A DESIGN OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT'S SELECTED, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT ARE REQUESTED. BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHAT, UH, MR. ION BRINGS UP IS THAT OUR BEST FEATURE IS THE ONE FACING THE WATER. AND YET WE HAVE THE FIELD THERE, LUCKILY, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT IT ON THE HARING SIDE, THOSE CHILDREN MAY GET KILLED. UM, SO YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE EAST SIDE, ON THE COLLINS AVENUE SIDE. AND, BUT THEN THERE'S SO MUCH LACK OF VISIBILITY, UM, EVEN LACK OF FEASIBILITY OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE OTHER FACILITIES NEXT TO THE FIELD UNDERNEATH THE POOL. THEN WHAT, UM, RETAIL IS AVAILABLE IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WHICH HOPEFULLY HAS, UH, PROXIMITY TO THESE FIELDS. WHEN THESE FIELDS ARE IN USE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY USE THAT. YEAH. RETAIL, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY END UP BEING SOME FORM OF A CAFE, I WOULD THINK. UM, LOOKING NORTH, I MEAN LOOKING YEAH. LOOKING NORTH INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE OCEAN, INSTEAD OF LOOKING WELL, INSTEAD OF OPENING UP TO THE FIELD. RIGHT. WHICH, WHICH IS, UM, THE RETAIL, MOST OF THE GLAZING ON THE RETAIL IS FACING EAST. YEAH, BUT HOW MANY FEET IN COMPARISON TO THE SITE? I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE, SO I, I'M GONNA STEER THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SPEAK ABOUT, BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING WE, WE BROUGHT UP BEFORE, AND ROGELIO WAS TALKING ABOUT ADDING MORE GLAZING, WHICH I THINK IS, IS NEEDED. I ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXERCISE OF THE CORNER AND THE SEATING AND HOW THE CONNECTION OF THE COMMERCIAL TO THE SOCCER FIELDS, THE CONNECTION OF THE COMMERCIAL TO THE SEATING OUTSIDE. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SIT THERE AND SEE THE WATER OR THE BAND SHELL, I THINK THAT'S BUFFERED BY, BY PLANTS. PLANTS, WHICH, WHICH I LIKE AND, AND CARS. BUT I, I JUST THINK IT, IT COULD BE STUDIED MORE. I ALSO, I HAVE THIS IN MY NOTES SINCE THE, I LIKE THE PLANTINGS ON COLLINS, BUT HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE FIELDS DID WE LOSE? AND, AND I'M, I'M SOMEONE WHO GOES TO FLAMINGO AND MY KIDS PLAY SOCCER, [01:25:01] AND WE ARE ON SOCCER FIELDS ALL THE TIME. AND, BUT THIS ONE SHOULD DRAIN BEAUTIFULLY IF IT'S BUILT RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS LOW. SO WE CAN'T HELP THAT. BUT ARE THERE, IS THERE A FULL SOCCER FIELD? IS THERE SMALLER SOCCER FIELDS? DO THEY OVERLAP? AND AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO SIT AND HAVE A COFFEE AND WATCH THE KIDS PLAY SOCCER WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A MAZE OF GATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M MISSING ALL OF THAT AREA IN, IN THIS PRESENTATION. AND I THINK WE, WE CAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, RIGHT? I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT WHOLE ENTIRE EAST ADE, UH, A PROMENADE BECAUSE, AND IT'S CONNECTIVITY TO MAGIC CAFES THERE. YOU'RE WATCHING YOUR KIDS PLAY SOCCER WHILE HAVING A CAFE AND, YOU KNOW, OVERLOOKING THE FIELD AND WHETHER IT'S ELEVATED OR NOT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT TYPE OF DESIGN ELEMENT WAS NOT THOUGHT. I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS IN CORAL GABLES, I ENVISION TABLES AND CHAIRS AND OVERLOOKING THE FIELD AND THE OCEAN AND THE WATER, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING THIS MANSION AND THEN YOU'RE FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY, IN MY OPINION. IT JUST, IT, IT, HOW DO YOU PUT PARKING SPACES ON THE EAST FACADE OF THIS BUILDING LOOKING UNDER TOWARDS THE OCEAN? JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. CAN I TAKE MY COFFEE, CAN GO UPSTAIRS AND SIT AND, AND GET TO THE BREEZE AND LOOK AND, AND WATCH THE KIDS PLAYING SOCCER. SO ANYWAYS, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOCCER FIELD SIZE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THAT . SO THE, THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE FOR SMALLER, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ONE B ONES AND ONE LARGER, WHICH IS THREE V THREE. UM, THE, TO ANSWER YOUR EARLIER QUESTION, I DON'T HAVE EXACTLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS DEDUCTED FROM THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD WHEN WE INCLUDED THE, UH, PRESERVING THE TREES. UM, IT WAS DEFINITELY SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A REQUIREMENT THAT WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE. I THINK EVERYONE WAS HAPPY THAT WE, UH, DECIDED TO KEEP THOSE TREES. UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA ADD A LOT OF SHADE TO THE, TO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS, AND I THINK THEY'RE JUST REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND SHOULD BE PRESERVED. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD HELP IF WE, LIKE, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE EAST SIDE AND IT, IT'S, IT'S ALL FENCED ON THE SIDEWALK ON COLLINS. LIKE, I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD INVITE BREAKS IN THE FENCE AND ON THE PARK THAT'S ON THE BAY SIDE, THERE'S A, A HANDFUL OF SIDEWALKS AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CONTINUE WITH THE LINE FROM THE SIDEWALK THERE. SO YOU HAVE A COUPLE BREAKS IN THE SOCCER FIELD OR KIND OF LEADING YOU TO THE SOCCER FIELD. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SECURITY ISSUE WITH DOING THAT. IF YOU HAD TO HAVE A FENCE. WE, WE HAVE, WE WE'RE, UM, IN MEETING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT EVERYTHING FENCED. OKAY. RIGHT. EVERYTHING LOCKED DOWN AFTER HOURS. YOU DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT ACCESS ANYWHERE. SO WE ARE PUSHING BACK A LITTLE BIT, TRYING TO KEEP, KEEP IT OPEN, KEEP IT ACCESSIBLE. UH, RIGHT NOW, THE MAIN, SO, UH, SOUTHEAST PLAZA, UH, LEADS YOU UP AND INTO WHERE YOU HAVE THE MAIN STAIRS, THE MAIN MONUMENTAL STAIRS, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE RUNNING LOOP AS WELL. AND THAT RUNNING LOOP REALLY LEADS YOU ACROSS THE EAST WHERE THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS ARE AND UP AND THEN TURNS. BUT THEN IT ALSO OPENS UP INTO WHAT IS THE PLAZA, THE RETAIL PLAZA, WHICH ACTUALLY MOVES UNDER THAT OTHER MONUMENTAL STAIR. SO THE IDEA IS THAT ONE WE BUILT, WE DESIGNED THE BENCHES INTO THE SAWTOOTH WALLS, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE, UM, THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SIT AND WATCH THE SOCCER. THAT'S PART OF THAT CONCEPT. UM, WE, WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A RUNNING LOOP, AND THERE'S MINIMUM LIMITS REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S PART OF THE PATTERN NEEDS TO TAKE THE RUNNING. THE, THE RUNNING LOOP IS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EAST, WHERE ON COLLINS AVENUE IS THE LOOP OUTSIDE OF THE HEDGES THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED AND THE, THAT SIDEWALK, I DON'T KNOW. OH, IT'S NOT SHARING OR IS IT INSIDE IN THE FIELDS? IT'S UP AGAINST THE BUILDING IT AGAINST THE BUILDING. OKAY. IT'S UP, IT'S ACTUALLY UP AGAINST THE BUILDING. SO IT'S COVERED AS WELL. YEAH. I SEE. SO I THINK WHAT LAURA BRINGS UP WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING IN MAY, I THINK OF 25, THAT WE WANTED A BREAK. WE HAD SUGGESTED, I BELIEVE, A BREAK IN THE LANDSCAPING SO THAT THERE IS SOME VISIBILITY. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A GATE, IF THERE'S A BALL ON THAT FIELD, THEY CAN'T GO ONTO COLLINS AVENUE OR A CHILD, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THERE. THAT CREATES A BUFFER TOWARDS THE VIEW. UM, SO THE, THAT RUNNING LOOP AND OPENNESS, THE FIELD, THE RUNNING LOOP HAS A, UM, A RETAINING WALL, WHICH, UM, IT, IT DOES SLOPE. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A RETAINING WALL BETWEEN THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND THE RUNNING LOOP. BUT THERE IS A BREAK TO ALLOW FOR A ACCESS INTO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD. YEAH, I'M TALKING MORE ON THE COLLINS AVENUE SIDE, WHERE ALL THOSE SEA GRAPES. YEAH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE [01:30:01] PLANTING. OH, SO BETWEEN THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND WHERE THE EXISTING TREES ARE, THERE IS NO BREAK. THERE IS NO FENCE. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S, SHE'S SAYING THAT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE FOR SOME ACTIVATION ALONG THAT, SOME INTERPLAY WITH THE, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE COMMUNITY AREA ON THE BEACH. WE HAVE COM I'M SORRY, AND I WASN'T AT THE PRIOR MEETING, BUT WE HAVE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, THE BEACH PARK RIGHT THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE COMMUNITY TENNIS COURTS ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY SHOULD WORK ALL TOGETHER AS THIS ONE SWATH GOING EAST TO WEST OF, OF COMMUNITY AMENITIES. SO I, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE PARK THAT'S ON THE COLLINS SIDE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT SIDEWALKS THAT, THAT, UH, ARE PERPENDICULAR TO COLLINS. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR SECURITY CONCERNS, BUT IF WE CAN INVITE BREAKS, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF CONNECT THE SIDEWALKS, LIKE, SO, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE THAT'S THE BENCH SHELL AND PARK EXACTLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLINS, UM, TO THE FIELD AT THE, AT THIS PROJECT. SO, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S DISCONNECTED BECAUSE IT'S COVERED. THE FENCE IS FINE. UH, IT HAS TO BE, I UNDERSTAND FOR THE WALL AND THE CHIL FOR THE BALLS AND THE CHILDREN, BUT ALL THOSE PLANTINGS, UM, IS WHAT I THINK LAURA'S REFERRING TO. CAN THEY BE BROKEN UP? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST TO CONSERVE SOME OF THE SEA GRAPES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THERE HA THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES ALSO THAT HAVE TO BE, UH, TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AND THAT'S THE CONNECTIVITY OF THIS FIELD TO THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND THE VISIBILITY OF THE WHOLE THING, THE OPENNESS. IF I COULD, IF I COULD PIPE PAINT, JUST WITH, JUST WITH REGARDS TO THE VISIBILITY, THE, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH ON COLLINS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COCONUT PALMS AND ALL THE VEGETATION THAT'S PART OF THE EAST SIDE OF COLLINS WHERE THE BAND SHELL IS ON THE WEST SIDE. UM, BETWEEN, UH, WHERE THOSE TREES ARE BEING PRESERVED, FIRST OF ALL, THOSE TREES ARE BEING PRESERVED AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO NAVIGATE. UM, WE'RE NOT PLANTING ANY MAJOR SHRUB BEDS UNDER THOSE TREES. SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IS GROUND COVER AND LAWN. SO EVEN WHEN YOU'RE AT THE, AT THE HEIGHT OF A PERSON DRIVING A VEHICLE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET SIGHT LINES AND VISIBILITY UNDER THE CANOPY OF THOSE TREES. THE INTENTION THERE IS TO RAISE THE CANOPY, UH, PD LIKES TO HAVE A NICE CLEAR WINDOW MM-HMM. SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE GOOD SEPTIC VISIBILITY. SO THE INTENTION THERE IS THAT FROM COLLINS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF VISIBILITY. IT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHAT INTERRUPTED WITH THE STAGGERING OF THE, OF THE TRUNKS, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, UH, BEDS OF SHRUBS THAT ARE GONNA IMPACT THEM. SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAH. OH FOUR, THIS IS A, AND IT DOESN'T SHOW WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING. IT SHOWS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO WHAT EXISTS THERE NOW. 'CAUSE AS WE GO NORTH ON COLLINS AVENUE, YES, THERE'S SOME SEA GRAPES, BUT YOU CLEARLY SEE THE PARKING LOT THAT'S THERE. MM-HMM . FROM COLLINS AVENUE AS YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH, THE WAY THAT A FOUR REFLECTS THE LANDSCAPING ON THAT COLLINS AVENUE EAST SIDE OF THIS FACILITY, YOU HAVE NO VIEW. NO VIEW BECAUSE IT IS ALL GREEN FROM, FROM, UM, GROUND LEVEL TO SOME HEIGHT. AND IT ISN'T JUST GROUND COVER. IF YOU GO TO A FOUR, YOU'LL, ARE YOU IN THIS PRESENTATION OR, YEAH, IT'S, UM, I'M SORRY. IT'S BECAUSE IT, IF, IF IT'S THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WE DID HAVE SHRUBS THAT WERE, THIS THE ONE SENT TO US FOR THIS MEETING. IT'S THE, THE DRAWING NUMBER'S A 0 4 0, UM, IT'S NUMBER 67 ON YOUR SLIDES, BUT I DON'T KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BACK AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. YEAH. IT'S TOWARDS THE END. I, I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT IS ACTIVATING THE EXACTLY. WE UNDERSTAND THE FACTS. YEAH. BUT ACTIVATING THE INTERIOR, I, I'M, I DON'T, I'M STILL CAUGHT UP ON WHERE DOES, WHERE DO MY KIDS PLAY A SOCCER GAME IN THESE SMALL FIELDS? IS IT A REQUIREMENT BY THE CITY TO HAVE A A FULL SIZE, OR IS IT UPDATED TO THE DISCRETION? AND THIS COULD BE ME ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE KIDS THAT PLAY A LOT OF SOCCER, BUT IF THIS CAN'T BE USED FOR REC SPORTS, SORRY, IS THIS THAT THEN I, THEN I'M STARTING TO YES. BE MORE CURIOUS BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY OUTDOOR PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. SO IT NEEDS TO BE THE MOST FLEXIBLE, THE MOST USABLE, AND HAVE, HAVE A NICE CONNECTION TO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. SO MAKING NICHES UNDERNEATH THE TREES CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK [01:35:01] TO ACTIVATE ALONG COLLINS. IF THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING WOULD BE NICE TO SIT UNDER THE SHADE. SO I'M ON THAT SIDE IF I'M ABLE TO WATCH A, A GAME MM-HMM . BUT I DO BRING UP THE QUESTION, AM I WATCHING A GAME OR AM I JUST, IT'S THIS ONE V ONE WHERE THREE GUYS ARE, FOUR GUYS ARE PLAYING AGAINST EACH OTHER THAT THEY, THAT THEY JUST GOT THERE FIRST. IS THIS USED FOR LIKE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, UH, FOOTBALL CLUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY REC SPORTS GOING ON? I MEAN, SOCCER IS DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR PLACES TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SPACES AND, AND, UM, SO WELL, IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA, THERE'S ONE BY NORMANDY PARK WHERE THERE'S ALSO A POOL. UM, AND THERE'S OTHER SMALLER ONES IN SOME OF THE SMALLER PARKS, I BELIEVE, WITHIN THE NORTH BEACH AREA. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY IN FLAMINGO OR THERE'S SOME SMALL ONES. FLAMING THE FLAMINGO HAS, YEAH. HAS THE ONE WHERE, WHERE WE GO, THE, THE ISSUE THAT HE BRINGS UP IS THAT THIS FACILITY WITH THESE TWO BIG POOLS, UM, WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE A BIG POOL IN NORMANDY, WE HAVE A BIG POOL AT THE SCOUT R IU CENTER. WE HAVE A BIG POOL BY FLAMINGO, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO POOLS HERE. SO WHO'S UTILIZING THESE POOLS? IS IT OUR HIGH SCHOOL FOR THEIR SWIM MATCHES? UM, BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF THE INTENT, THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL FOR IT. WE'RE BUILDING IT FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. UM, ONE, ONE THING I JUST, I WANTED TO NOTE, DOES, IT DOESN'T ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN ON, ON THAT FRONTAGE BEING ACTIVATED ALONG COLLINS, THE, WHERE THERE'S PARKING, UM, THERE WAS A VARIANCE APPROVED THAT, SO THAT IS A CODE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL FRONTAGES BE ACTIVATED BECAUSE IT TAKES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWN CENTER CORE, WHICH CALLS FOR OFF FRONTAGES TO HAVE ACTIVE SPACE, UM, GIVEN THE, THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE REQUIRED OF THIS PROJECT TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF LIBRARY SPACE, A CERTAIN AMOUNT. YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRAMMING WAS PRETTY MUCH SET AND HANDED TO THE CONSULTANTS THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLY WITH. I KNOW OF VARIANCE WAS GRANTED WHAT MS. BUD HAD SAID EARLIER REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DEMAND OF OTHERS WE'RE NOT DEMANDING OF OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE CREATED OUR OWN VARIANCE TO GO UP ONE MORE FLOOR TO ADD ANOTHER FLOOR OF PARKING AND ACTIVATE THE WHOLE ENTIRE RETAIL, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DIDN'T. AND NOW YOU HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF REAL ESTATE OF THAT PROPERTY, WHICH FACES EAST, AND YOU'RE LINING IT WITH PARKING SPACES. MM-HMM . JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO I, I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT A VARIANCE WAS GRANTED BY THE BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN GIVEN THE SITE CONSTRAINTS. SO, UH, UM, OTHER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT VARIANCE WERE NOT GRANTED, THEY, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, A DEPTH OF ABOUT 25 FEET OF ACTIVE SPACE FRONTING COLLINS AVENUE. UM, BUT THERE WERE THOSE SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE IMPOSED. UM, I THINK THE CITY, GIVEN, GIVEN ITS LOCATION NEXT TO AN R ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A FAIRLY LOW SCALE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, I THINK THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING TOO MUCH HEIGHT. THIS WAS SEEN SORT OF AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE HIGH RISE AREA ON 72ND STREET AND THE LOW RISE AREA ON 73RD STREET. UM, SO I, I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO HIGH. UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD'VE MEANT FOR, FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES. UM, BUT THAT'S, I KNOW IT DOESN'T ADDRESS YOUR, I KNOW IT DOESN'T ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, BUT THAT WAS THE, THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT THE TIME. I, UH, HAVE A, A SEPARATE QUESTION AND, AND IT'S A CIP QUESTION, THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT, DOES IT IN INCLUDE THE EQUIPMENT FOR THIS LIBRARY, UH, 1700 SQUARE FOOT OR 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LIBRARY? DOES IT INCLUDE THE BUDGET FOR THE EQUIPMENT IN THE LIBRARY, THE SHELVING, THE BOOKS, THE COMPUTERS? WELL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY MIAMI DAD COUNTY, YES. I BELIEVE THAT, THAT THEY ARE TO PAY FOR IT AS THEY DID FOR THE REGIONAL LIBRARY. WE, WE INCLUDE LIKE THE FURNITURE, THE MILLWORK, BUT THEY BRING IN THE COMPUTERS, THEIR PRINTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THEIR F AND FURNITURE AND THEIR OWN FURNITURE. YEAH. SO AS PART OF THE LIBRARY SYSTEM THAT THIS CITY IS A PART OF, AND THE TAXES THAT GO TOWARDS THE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, THEY, MEANING MIAMI-DADE COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO FURNISH THE ENTIRETY OF THE INSIDE OF THAT LIBRARY. THAT MEANS FURNITURE, SHELVING, COMPUTERS, AND BOOKS AS THEY DID IN THE REGIONAL LIBRARY ON 22ND. AND COLLINS, I, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THE AGREEMENT, BUT THERE, THERE IS A PORTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. I WOULD APPRECIATE, NOW THAT WE'RE ON THE LIBRARY, WE'RE GOING FROM 70, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIBRARY OF 7,500 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. CURRENTLY THE NORTH SHORE LIBRARY IS 15,000, ROUGHLY. SO WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE ALMOST 50% [01:40:03] WHEN WE MOVE OVER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT LIBRARIES FOR ME, WERE A SAFE PLACE, AND THAT'S A SAFE PLACE FOR MANY CHILDREN THERE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EQUALING THE SPACE OF A LIBRARY THAT IS REALLY THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S GROWTH AND SAFETY. SO I THINK THERE'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE AMOUNTS DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY FOR REGIONAL LIBRARIES AND, UM, SMALLER LIBRARIES OF THIS SORT. UM, IS HE CORRECT? DO WE HAVE 15,000 SQUARE FEET AND WE'RE GOING DOWN TO 70? I AM. RIGHT? YES, I AM. RIGHT. AND WHAT, SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, REQUIRED FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PART OF THE, UH, DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE. AND IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS 7,500 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WAS, WHICH HAD BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH, WITH THE LIBRARY, UH, FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. THAT'S REALLY A DISSERVICE TO, TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY. I FEEL, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE TAKING A PROPERTY THAT'S EXTREMELY PROFITABLE AND VERY, THEY'RE GONNA ELIMINATE THAT ONE, PROBABLY GET SOLD, BUILT THERE, SOMETHING, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LIBRARY HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT WE USED TO HAVE. THAT PROPERTY BELONGS TO MIAMI BEACH NOW, RIGHT? MIAMI BEACH WILL SELL IT. YES. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO THAT PROP LIBRARY SEVERAL TIMES. IT'S NOT THE SAFEST LIBRARY, BUT NO, IT'S, I MEAN, LISTEN, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS. I MEAN, IF YOU GO THERE, IT'S CHILDREN GO, GO. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE SAFEST WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE HOMELESS AROUND THERE, BUT THEY'RE CLEANING IT UP. IF, IF, IF WE'RE BUILDING THIS SIZE OF A, OF A, OF A C COMMUNITY CENTER, THEN GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THE CHILDREN AS WELL, WHO, WHO ARE NOT SPORTS RELATED. I, I WAS NEVER A, A SPORTS ENTHUSIAST AS A CHILD, BUT I WAS INTO READING, UH, BEING SAFE IN A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT I, I, I COULD USE AS A A, AS A FORTRESS FOR ME. THANK GOD FOR WESTCHESTER REGIONAL LIBRARY. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING A SERVICE TO OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS BY REDUCING THE SIZE OF A LIBRARY. WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR A LIBRARY IN THE FUTURE. ROGELIO, AT THIS POINT, I THINK EVERY BOARD MEMBER HAS EXPRESSED SOME AMOUNT OF CONCERN OVER A VARIETY OF ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S THE INTERACTION OF, UM, AND THE OPENNESS ON COLLINS AVENUE, THE RETAIL SPACE, THE LIBRARY, THE PARKING, AND ITS LOCATION AT THIS POINT, AS MR. ION SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE HORSE ALREADY. SO WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE AS A BOARD IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? IS IT JUST SIMPLY SAYING, OKAY, YES, WE AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY, AND THEN SENDING A STRONG MESSAGE IN WRITING TO THE COMMISSION ON BEHALF PLANNING, SENDING SOMETHING TO THE COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL THE FACETS THAT WERE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY. WHAT CAN WE DO? SO, SO THE PROJECT IS APPROVED. THEY'RE HERE FOR SOME MODIFICATIONS. SO THE ONLY THING BEFORE THE BOARD RIGHT NOW ARE THOSE MODIFICATIONS. THAT'S WHAT WAS NOTICED, IS THAT THE BOARD IS HERE TO CONSIDER, UH, MODIFICATIONS OF THE ARCHITECT TO SOME DESIGN CONSTRAINTS, SOME DESIGN ISSUES, MATERIALS, ELEMENTS, LANDSCAPING, AND SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. SO THE OVERALL MASSING OF THE, OF THE PROJECT IS, IS APPROVED. UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY. RIGHT? THE MASSING OF THE PROJECT AND, AND VARIANCES WERE ALREADY APPROVED. UM, AND SO THOSE CONTINUE. UM, SO IF THERE ARE CONCERNS OVER THE OVERALL PROGRAMMING, WHAT, WHAT THE SPORT HAS DONE IN THE PAST IS, IS A MOTION IS MADE WITH SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT'S TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION VIA LETTER TO COMMISSION. UM, WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION CAN, CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND, AND DO WHAT THEY WILL WITH IT. THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, RECOMMEND CHANGES OR, OR, OR PROCEED. YEAH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PUBLIC PARK, UM, OR GOVERNMENT FACILITY THAT IS YET TO BE DONE OR RENOVATED OR REPROGRAMMED. EVERYTHING IS DONE. SO WE HAVE NO MORE SPACE THAT ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN APPLY TO. I WAS, I JUST, I JUST LOOKED AT THE NORTH SHORE LIBRARY. I BELIEVE IT'S, I I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN LIBRARY SPACE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT, THE BUILDING, ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IS 5,200 SQUARE FEET. SO I, I BELIEVE THERE WAS, I WAS TOLD THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN, IN LIBRARY SPACE BY, BY MOVING TO THIS AREA. YEAH, [01:45:01] I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE, THE LETTER IS, IS WE DID THAT BEFORE FOR SOMETHING. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. BUT IF, IF TODAY THE ITEMS IN FRONT OF US, WHICH WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THAT CAME BACK TO US, WE CAN STILL TRY TO ADJUST AND MAKE ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS WITH, I I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE, THE COMMERCIAL CORNER ON, ON, UM, THE, THE NORTHEAST, NORTHEAST SIDE NORTHEAST IS ANALYZED FOR HOW THE CONNECTION TO THE FIELDS AND THE CONNECTION TO THE, TO THE SPACE ABOVE HOW THAT'S USED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, OR COFFEE SHOP, RESTAURANT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER'S IN THERE, HOW THAT INTERACTION IS. I DON'T, I DON'T, I NEED TO BLOW UP AND, AND SOME VIEWS OF WHAT THE OUTDOOR SEATING IS, WHAT THE CONNECTION TO THE FIELDS ARE, AND MAYBE A STUDY OF THE, THE FIELDS. AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST, SO DO YOU WANT THAT COMING BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING, NEXT MEETING? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY SO. OKAY. I, I'M SUGGESTING THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS FEELING SO STRONG ABOUT THE FIELDS. I, I TOLD YOU WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME JUST BECAUSE, NO, I THINK IT'SS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD GO. THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN IN THAT AREA, EVEN THOUGH MY KIDS MAY BE OLDER BY THE TIME THIS IS BUILT. NO. YEAH. UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WHAT WE CAN TRY TO AFFECT IS THESE ITEMS HERE. I THINK WE NEVER GOT TO YOUR ART, WHICH I THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY LIKES BEAUTIFUL. I ACTUALLY HAD A, OKAY, MAYBE , SORRY. UM, BUT ADDRESSING THE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE TO THE GARAGE, AS LONG AS THAT'S NOT UP TOO HIGH, THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM AFAR. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE THING I HAD ABOUT THAT. BUT GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE US TODAY, UM, UM, I, I REALIZE WE'VE GONE ON A LONG TIME. I JUST, OVERALL THIS PROJECT FEELS LIKE A 1970S COMMUNITY CENTER. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GATHERING IN COMMUNITY SPACES WHERE IF YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE DOING ALL THESE ACTIVITIES, WHERE ARE THEY TAKING THEIR BROWN BAG LUNCH AND SITTING DOWN A TABLE AND TALKING WITH THEIR FRIENDS. THE LIBRARY, IT, OUR USES, THE WAY WE USE LIBRARIES NOW ARE VERY DIFFERENT. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER IT'S DESIGNED IS ACTUALLY A CURRENT WAY THAT CHILDREN STUDY. AND WITH ALL THE USE OF ELECTRONICS AND THE WAY THAT, UM, FOR SOUNDPROOFING, 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE, UH, ON COMPUTERS AND PHONES AND WHATNOT AND MAKE SURE IT'S TECHNOLOGICALLY UP TO SPEED THERE, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF SHADE, A LOT OF AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN, UM, AFTER SWIMMING SIT DOWN AND GATHER WITH THEIR FRIENDS OR, AND HAVE A SNACK OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS WITHIN YOUR CONTROL IN THIS DESIGN AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT WE'VE RAISED. JUST VIEWING IT AS IF YOU'RE GOING THERE TO USE THESE FACILITIES, HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING IT WITH YOUR COMMUNITY? UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE TABLES, CHAIRS, SHADE UMBRELLAS, UM, SPACES THAT ARE, UH, THINKING ONCE THE ACTIVITY IS OVER, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING. UM, I JUST DID WANNA ADDRESS YOUR ART, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL. I DON'T, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE, UM, PICTURE OF THE ART AND THERE'S VISUALLY THE GREEN TRIANGLES IN THE ART. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM. YEAH. SO MAYBE, UM, THERE IS A DEPTH INTO THE FACILE AS IT'S WORKING. OKAY. YES. SO THERE IS A DEPTH IN THE FACILE. WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO A COMPLETELY FLAT WALL. AND SO, UM, THERE IS A DEPTH TO IT, AND WE WANTED TO SHOW, IF YOU WANT THE IDEA OF A FOLD, NOT THAT YOU WOULD FOLD THE FACADE. AND THE GREEN IS A BEHIND GEOMETRICALLY SPEAKING. SO JUST AESTHETICALLY, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT, OKAY, THE GREEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF A WAVE. YEAH. AND THE GREEN KIND OF STOPS THAT FLOW OF THE WATER TO, TO ME. OKAY. AND IT, IT MAKES THE, THIS VERY BEAUTIFUL ART LOOK A LITTLE DATED. OKAY. WE CAN WORK ON THAT. YES. UM, AND I, I'M, IT RUINS THE, THE FLOW OF THE WATER, PARTIAL OF THE, I THINK THE, WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND I THINK ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY THE ARCHITECT HAS BEEN GREAT IN COORDINATING COLORS AND AESTHETIC FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN. I HAVE TO SAY, IN THEIR DEFENSE, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON MANY PUBLIC ART PROJECT, AND THEY'VE BEEN NOT ONLY WELCOMING, BUT ALSO TRYING TO COORDINATE ON THEIR END. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS CERTAIN LEVEL OF UNITY, I THINK, IN TERMS OF THE COLOR CHOICES, MATERIAL CHOICES THAT WILL MAKE THIS A PLEASANT ARCHITECTURAL PROJECT VISUALLY ALL AROUND THE BUILDING FOR THE FACADES. AND SO THE GREEN ITSELF, I THINK WHEN I ENTERED THE PROJECT, EXISTED IN TERMS OF SIGNAGE, THE CAFE MM-HMM . THE [01:50:01] CX REPEATED, AND I FELT LIKE THE ART ARTWORK SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST, UM, CATCHED UPON CERTAIN NODES OF COLORS, WHICH I THINK WILL BRING TOGETHER THE PROJECT, GENERALLY SPEAKING. AND ALSO THE FIELDS ON TOP THE, UM, OF THE ROOF ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THESE SCENES OF COLORS. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS COORDINATED AND DOESN'T FEEL LIKE ONE THING IS ATTACHED. AND REST. I GET THAT. JUST THE GREEN TRIANGLES TO ME MAKE IT LOOK LIKE ORIGAMI AS OPPOSED TO A WAVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, WE CAN, I CAN WORK ON THAT DEPOSITION, SO NO, NO. YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN AS WE WORK ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING? HAS THE MATCHING COLOR ON THE UNDERSIDES OF EVERYTHING? I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S, I GET THAT YOU'RE REPEATING THAT COLOR. UM, I DON'T, I THINK IT'S A WEIRD COLOR. PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S KIND OF JARRING AND NOT THAT CURRENT FEELING. AND IF YOU, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE EVEN THE COLOR OF THE GREEN, OF THE GRASS AND THE TREES AND THE BLUE OF THE OCEAN AND THE SKY, THE GREEN IS SORT OF THIS LIME UNNATURAL COLOR. YES. I THINK WE, YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE YEAH. UM, NATURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT FINDS ITSELF AS A MOMENT OF, UM, IT'S NOT NATURAL. YES, I UNDERSTAND. IT'S A BIT FLUORESCENT. I THINK ACTUALLY THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT. AND I THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY WORK VERY WELL WITH ILLUMINATION IN THE NIGHT, AND WE'LL HAVE A LIVELIHOOD. SO IT WAS INTENTION BEHIND IT, PROBABLY. IT'S, UH, IT'S ALSO INITIAL TASTE, BUT IN, IN A WAY WE WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT POP UP DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST. BUT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE ANOTHER OPTION. GOOD. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE ANOTHER OPTION. YEAH. I, I UNDERSTAND ART, THIS IS TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE, . I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS, THIS TAKES THIS BUILDING THAT ALREADY HAS THIS KIND OF, UH, OLD FEELING OF OLD COMMUNITY CENTER IN SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL WAYS. AND IT, UH, EMPHASIZES IT EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE, UH, THE COLOR CHOICE. BUT YOU COULD, YOU COULD SUGGEST THAT THAT COLOR BE EVALUATED AND WORK WITH, WITH ARTISTS. YEAH. I'D LOVE TO SEE OPTIONS. I CALL THAT THE SIGNATURE COLOR OF THIS BUILDING. SO IT, IT COULD VERY WELL AND SHOULD BE PROBABLY EVALUATED. I DON'T DID IT, WAS IT ON ALL THE PICTURES BEFORE? I DON'T RE REMEMBER. THE ON, WELL, THIS, THIS PART WAS JUST A, LIKE A PLACEHOLDER IN THE LAST, IN THE LAST ITERATION, IT WAS JUST A BLUE, BLUE MESH AS A PLACEHOLDER. AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WAS THAT THEY COME BACK WITH THE FINAL ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PROJECT FOR APPROVAL. BUT THE UNDERSIDES OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE BUILDING YEAH. THAT WAS THERE. THEY WERE THERE. RIGHT. THAT WAS THERE. THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE CAFE, THE UNDER IT IS A QUALITY MAKE EVERY, IT'S GONNA GIVE A, A NICE GLOW OF LIME GREEN TO EVERYTHING, ALL OF THE WHITE STUCCO. SO I, I THINK THAT COLOR SELECTED, THAT'S THE ONE OF THE CITY COLORS. SO IN OUR EMAIL SIGNATURES, THE MIAMI BEACH IS ALWAYS IN THAT. OKAY. THAT GREEN. UM, THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE CITY COLORS, THE GREEN AND BLUE. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BY THE WAY, THE GREEN, YOU HAVE DO YOU LIKE, BUT I UNDERSTAND. DO YOU LIKE THE COLOR? I DO. I LOVE IT. . THAT'S WHY I KEPT IT. AND HONESTLY, I'VE BEEN VERY OPEN TO THIS KIND OF DISCUSSIONS. I HAVE TO SAY. THE ARCHITECT HAS BEEN ALWAYS LIKE, LET, LET'S DO SOMETHING TOGETHER, WHICH IS GREAT. SO I, I LIKE, I SINCERELY LIKED IT. YES. I GUESS GOING BACK TO WHAT'S IN PART, SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY LIKE, OVERALL, I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE'S SAYING YOUR, THE MAIN MISSION OF THIS ONE WAS TO BE IN THE LIVING ROOM OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS CURRENT STATE, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT STAY. I WOULDN'T WANNA SPEND ALL DAY IN THIS BUILDING. I GUESS I WOULD GO THERE FOR ACTIVITY AND LEAVE. MAYBE THEY CAN FIND MORE WAYS TO MAKE IT MORE OF A GATHERING PLACE, LIKE YOU SAID. YEAH. IT'S TOO INSTITUTIONAL. INSTITUTIONAL. THERE'S NO WARMTH, I GUESS, OR YES. YEAH. TO REACH A PLACE YOU SHOULD WANNA SPEND HOURS THERE, JUST SIT AND WATCHING YOUR, YEAH. AND, AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SAFETY, A A PLACE WHERE IT'S SAFE TO GATHER WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND HANG OUT AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE IT'S, YOU'RE KIND OF WELCOMED IN INTO IT. MM-HMM . GINO, GINO, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE CORNER OF 72ND STREET AND COLLINS AVENUE, WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE LUSH LANDSCAPING AREA TO INCORPORATE, UM, SOME BENCHES OR OR OTHER GATHERING SPACE IN THAT CORNER? OLDER ONE, THE CORN, THE NORTHEAST CORNER, SOUTHEAST CORNER. SOUTHEAST CORNER. IF YOU GO TO THE, UH, IT'S PAY, IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU SEE IT ON THE COVER SHEET. UM, HOLD IT HERE. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF LAND, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, SPECIMEN TREES THERE IN THAT CORNER. BUT IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN THEM TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A GATHERING SPACE IN THAT AREA? THE, THE ONLY, THE ONLY CONCERN [01:55:01] THAT I HAVE IS THAT A GATHERING SPACE WOULD NEED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT, WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED TO POUR SLABS. AND PER THE URBAN FORESTRY STANDARDS, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSE TO ANY OF THE CRITICAL ROOT AREAS OF THOSE TREES. AND BECAUSE THOSE TREES ARE REALLY LARGE, THOSE CRITICAL ROOT AREAS ARE DEFINED BY THE DRIP LINE OF THE TREES. THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED, AND IT BASICALLY SORT OF NULLS THE ABILITY TO GET ALL THAT THERE. GOT IT. UM, UH, WE, WE COULD EXPLORE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT MATERIAL, MAYBE POURED IN PLACE RUBBER OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. UM, BUT, UM, I GUESS PEOPLE WOULD GRAB THEIR COFFEE AT THE NORTH CORNER AND THEN WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM CORNER. IS THAT, IS THAT THE THINKING? YEAH, OR THERE'S GONNA BE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE TOWN CENTER, THERE'S, THERE'S A DENNY'S THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER RESTAURANTS THERE. THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, DOES, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE COFFEE FROM THIS SITE ITSELF, OR PICK A PICNIC. LIKE YEAH. WHERE, WHERE IS SOMEBODY BIKING UP HERE? THE LOCK THE BIKES UP, THEY BROUGHT THEIR LUNCH, WHATEVER THEY PICNIC. LIKE, I, I THINK THE WHOLE FIELD SHOULD, THERE'S ACTUALLY BIKE PARKING AT ALL OF THE PLAZAS. SO THEN I, I GET OFF MY BIKE, WHERE AM I SITTING AND WHERE AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO SIT ON SOME GRASS AND LAY OUT AND JUST RELAX? I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THEME. YEAH. A LOT OF US ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU COULD SIT IN A PARKING SPACE AND LOOK OUT THE WINDOW. SO, UM, , SO ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM, ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THOSE, THOSE TREES THAT HAVE THE TRIANGLE IN THEM, THOSE ARE TREES THAT ARE BEING RELOCATED TO THOSE LOCATIONS. RIGHT. UM, WE COULD PROBABLY SEE IF, MAYBE WE CAN SHIFT THEM OVER. THERE'S SOME UTILITIES THERE THAT ARE PART OF THE WELLS THAT ARE ALSO SORT OF LIMITING WHERE WE CAN PUT TREES. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING INTO THIS SITE. UM, SO THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PLACE THINGS WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA SPACE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING PICNIC. SO IF THE IDEA IS TO BE ABLE TO CREATE AT LEAST A POCKET THERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTIVATE, CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A PLAZA THERE, MAYBE AT THE SOUTHERN MOST END OF THE, OF THE SOUTHERN MOST FIELD, RIGHT? MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A SEATING AREA THERE. SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIRTHDAY PARTY AND THEY INVITE THEIR FRIENDS TO COME. SO A FEW PICNIC TABLES, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S ACTIVATED WITH BEAUTIFUL TREES, BUT NOT ACTIVATED FOR HUMANS. AND IT'S THE SAME THING ON THE, THE, THE NORTH CORNER. I THINK THAT THAT'S HARDSCAPE, BUT THAT SHOULD BE ACTIVATED FOR PEOPLE SITTING THERE IN THE SOUTH. THAT THAT'S THE ONLY, LIKE CORNER POCKET, THAT EXAMPLE. YEAH. IF YOU GUYS, I'M SORRY. NO, I'M SORRY. NONE OF THE AREAS IN THE SOUTH MAY BE BIG ENOUGH, UM, FOR CONGREGATION OF PEOPLE HAVING A LUNCH. SO YOU MAY HAVE TO HAVE SMALL POCKETS THROUGHOUT ANOTHER CORNER, SUCH AS THE, THE NORTH NORTHEAST CORNER. I'M SORRY. NO. UM, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT FOR INSPIRATION, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE UNDERLINE MM-HMM . AND THEY'VE DONE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL JOB ACTIVATING MUCH TIGHTER SPACE, BUT BRINGING TWO SIDES OF COMMUNITY TOGETHER WITH BOTH VISUALLY AND ALSO WITH REALLY USABLE, UM, FUNCTIONALITY. SO IF, SHOULD THAT BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT AS INSPIRATION OF KIND OF WHAT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT ALL OF US ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF IT, IT, IT'S NOT THAT FRIENDLY, THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW? WELL, I MEAN, I, I'M THE CHAIR FOR THE DESIGN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE UNDERLYING, SO I'VE, I'VE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED THAT, THAT PROJECT, THANK YOU . UM, AND THERE WE CREATED VERY, VERY SMALL INTIMATE SPACES, UM, USING A LOT OF OLEG ROCK. UM, IS THAT THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT THAT, THAT'S NOT VERY CONDUCIVE TO LARGE AGGREGATIONS OF PEOPLE? IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE DID IN BRICKELL BACKYARD, UM, THERE, WE HAVE REALLY LONG DINING TABLES, REALLY LARGE SEATING AREAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUT OF SCALE WITH THE AVAILABLE SPACE THAT'S HERE. SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE LEVELS OF IMPROVEMENTS HERE. UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK TO SEE IF THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE SOME SMALL COURTYARD SPACE KIND OF FOOTPRINTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT AND GATHER IF THEY SO, YOU KNOW, PICK UP SOME LUNCH A COUPLE BLOCKS AWAY, BRING THEM HERE AT, AT THE, AT THE GREEN AREA, UM, AND EAT, WE CAN, WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN CREATE THOSE LEVELS OF ACTIVATION. YEAH. I LOVE THE, I LOVE THE KIND OF IMAGERY THAT THE CHAIR STATED OF WHERE'S THEIR BIRTHDAY PARTY GONNA HAPPEN, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LITTLE GATHERING. WHERE, WHERE, WHERE CAN THOSE MOMENTS HAPPEN IF YOU JUST, THAT'S ON THE MOST BASIC LEVEL. MM-HMM . THE UNDERLINE OBVIOUSLY TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH, UH, SOUND AND PICK, UM, PING PONG AND BASKETBALL AND STUFF. BUT YEAH, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, THOSE KIND OF PASSIVE PARK USES, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY THE DESIGN BRIEF THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAD TRANSMITTED. NO. IN THE DCP, THEY [02:00:01] REALLY LOOKED AT THIS AS A PLAY FIELD. UM, AND THEY REALLY LOOKED AT THIS MORE AS A SORT OF LAWN AREA THAT THEY COULD USE, NOT EVEN FOR ORGANIZED SPORTS, BUT MORE FOR PICKUP SPORTS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE DEMAND. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING A FULL SOCCER FIELD THERE. IT REALLY IS MORE OF A PICKUP SPORTS KIND OF, UM, OPPORTUNISTIC, UH, CONDITION. YOU'RE TALKING MORE OF A TYPOLOGY THAT'S MORE LIKE A, LIKE A PASSIVE PARK, UH, CONDITION, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE HAVING DESIGNED MANY PARKS FOR MUNICIPALITIES, THAT IF YOU ARE GONNA HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR SOMETHING, AT A MINIMUM, YOU SHOULD HAVE A PAVILION THERE SO THAT SOMEBODY CAN HAVE SHADE IN THE EVENT OF INCLEMENT WEATHER. SO NOW WE ARE ADDING PROGRAMMING TO THE, TO THE, TO THE DESIGN BRIEF. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE I'M, I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE BREADTH OF THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS THEN REQUIRES US TO REVISIT THE DCP TO ADDRESS ADDITIONS OF PROGRAMMING OR CHANGES IN, IN, IN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PROGRAMMING THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DECIDED BACK. UM, WELL, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT AS PERMANENT. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SHADE OF THE CANOPIES IN ORDER TO ACTIVATE THESE YEAH. THESE POCKETS. AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT WAS WRITTEN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY WAS MM-HMM . ASKING FOR ANY OF THESE THINGS. RIGHT. I KNOW THAT THE, THE POOL WAS BIG. I, I, I STILL THINK THE SECOND POOL UP THERE HAS GOT IS WHERE THE SPACES WHERE, WHERE SOMEONE COULD SIT UP AND HAVE A VIEW MM-HMM . AND I DON'T KNOW, I, THAT SECOND POLE'S STILL PRETTY BIG. I KNOW THAT'S NOT, NOT YOUR PURVIEW, BUT I WANT TO TAKE, IF I'M TAKING THAT COFFEE, I'M WALKING UP THOSE STAIRS, I'M GOING OVER TO THAT, THAT SIDE THERE MM-HMM . AND SITTING UP THERE WITH A VIEW AND LOOKING OVER THE BANDSHELL TO THE WATER. LIKE, AND, AND MAYBE AS A SUGGESTION, I KNOW 'CAUSE WE'RE TIGHT ON OPEN SPACE, BUT I'M TRYING TO LIKE, SEE WHERE WE HAVE A LOT, WE HAVE A LOT OF STAIRS. I'M WONDERING, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN, IT'S PROBABLY AN EXPENSIVE SUGGESTION, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS WHERE THE STAIRS ARE NOT JUST STAIRS. THERE'S, THERE'S RELIEF LANDINGS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, I'M NOT SAYING A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR LIKE THEATER CITY, A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE TO SIT AND HAVE THEIR LUNCH. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A LARGER LANDING, MAYBE A NOOK IN THE LANDING, AND THEN MAYBE THAT ALSO WOULD CREATE SHADE FOR THE AREAS BELOW IT TO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE BUDGET, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF STAIRS THROUGHOUT HERE WHERE I THINK WE COULD AT LEAST EXPLORE IF THAT'S AN AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY. SO ALL, ALL OF THE THREE MONUMENTAL STAIRS ACTUALLY DO HAVE BIGGER LANDINGS AND FOR THAT EXACT PURPOSE. OKAY. IT'S, THE IDEA WAS THAT THEY'RE LOCATED AT PLAZAS WHERE SOMEONE COULD GRAB A COFFEE AND GO SIT AND JUST RELAX AND DO SOME PEOPLE WATCHING. UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE INTENT WITH THOSE MONUMENTAL STAIRS. THOSE MONUMENTAL STAIRS ARE REQUIRED. THEY'RE EGRESS, THEY'RE, IT'S FOR THE CAPACITY TO MEET THE CAPACITY OF EGRESS FOR THE POOL DECK. UM, AND THEY ARE MAXED. UM, WE ARE ALSO LIMITED IN THE FOOTPRINT TOO, THE PLAZAS THAT WE, WE LOVE PLAZAS. WE WOULD DESIGN MASSIVE PLAZAS IF WE HAD THE ROOM. OBVIOUSLY THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF COMPONENTS, SO WE HAD TO DO WHAT WE CAN IN ORDER TO FIT, FIT THE PLAZAS AND MAKE THEM AS NICE AS POSSIBLE. SO, BUT THAT WAS THE INTENT WITH THOSE STAIRS. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THAT, SO ALL THREE STAIRS ARE REQUIRED. YES. THAT, THAT WAS A COMMENT WE HAD EARLY ON WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT WE WANTED THAT TO OPEN UP AND BE MORE OF AN OPEN SPACE. AND, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS NEEDED FOR OCCUPANCY. AND, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMMING. I THINK MAYBE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY ARE SAYING WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE IN NORTH SHORE OPEN SPACE PARK, WHICH IS ONLY LIKE FOUR BLOCKS, MAYBE NORTH OF THIS PROJECT. UM, SO THEY'RE LOOKING MORE AT THIS SITE AS A SITE FOR PICKUP SPORTS AND PROGRAM SPORTS, UH, THAN THE OPEN SPACE THAT OPEN SPACE PARK IS, WHICH GOES FOR SEVERAL BLOCKS. YEAH. THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW PARKS ADDED TO THIS AREA. WE HAVE THE ALTO TELMAR PARK NOW. UM, THE OCEAN TERRACE, THE ROAD ITSELF HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A, A BEAUTIFUL, UH, A PARK ITSELF. AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET IN THE BANDSHELL, THE SOUTH HALF OF THAT LOT IS ALSO A, A PUBLIC OPEN PLAZA PARK. UM, SO, SO WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO DO? WE HAVE, WE HAVE RAILINGS, WE HAVE EYEBROWS, WE HAVE ART. UM, DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS? YEAH, I MEAN, UH, I, THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE CHA ARE CHARGED TO DO TODAY IS LOOK AT WHAT THE REQUEST IS. IF WE, [02:05:01] IN ADDITION TO THAT, CAN HAVE PLANNING, SUMMARIZE A MEMO, UM, TO GO OUT FROM THE DRB AS TO WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE WITH PERMEABILITY, WITH, UH, OPEN SPACE, WITH PROGRAMMING, SPORTS, WITH, UM, ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED, THE VIEWS OF THE OPENNESS, UM, TO OTHER FACILITIES. SO, OH, AND ON THE PERMEABILITY, I MEANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER. I MEAN, ANOTHER SUGGESTION I DON'T KNOW, HAVE, HAS, WAS THERE CONSIDERATION FOR DOING LIKE BIOS, SWALES, OR ANYTHING? I THINK THAT THAT COULD HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DRAINAGE AND THEN ALSO WITH THE VISIBILITY THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT BEFORE. SO, SO THE, THE, THE PREVIOUS AREAS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE PERIMETER, THEY ARE, UM, THEY ARE SWAYED TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT AS MUCH WATER AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A MISNOMER THAT IF IT'S ALL GREEN, THE WATER'S JUST GONNA, UH, FLUSH DOWN. THE REALITY IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOIL AND SAND COMPACTED, SOME WATER WOULD PERCOLATE, BUT IN LARGE RAIN EVENTS, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT HORIZONTAL, UM, RUN OF THE WATER. AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL DRAINS. SO, SO THE CIVIL ENGINEER DOES HAVE CATCH BASINS AND YARD DRAINS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP SOME OF THOSE AREAS. UM, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF COMPACTION THAT'S THERE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT GONNA GET THE AMOUNT OF GROUNDWATER RECHARGE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO GET OUT OF A BIOSWALE. THERE ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF VERY FINE ENGINEERING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH REGARDS TO EXCAVATING REALLY DEEP, BRINGING IN, UM, LARGE ROCKS, WRAPPING THEM WITH THE GEOTEXTILE FABRIC AND GIVEN THE TIGHT SPACES THAT THEN COULD POTENTIALLY UNDERMINE THE STABILIZATION OF THE WALKWAYS ON THE SIDEWALKS. UM, BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN ON BOTH SIDES. , IF WE HAD A WALKWAY WITH A LARGE LANDSCAPE AREA WHERE WE COULD MOVE THE BIO SWAY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK, I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INTENSELY, UM, DO. BUT GIVEN THE, THE, THE CONDITION THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPACTION UNDER THE SIDEWALKS IN A VERY TIGHT SPACE, THE, THE ABILITY TO REALLY CARVE DOWN AND CREATE THE BIOSWALE TO WORK AS A TRUE BIOSWALE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EFFECTIVE. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE ITEMS BEFORE US ROGELIO ARE FOR APPROVAL. THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES PURPOSES, THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES ON THE, WITH THE ARTWORK. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. SO THE, THE RAILINGS, THE, THE, UM, PARAPET TRIANGLES, PARA GUARD RAILS ARE CHANGING, UM, THE, UH, THE V-SHAPED COLUMNS ALONG, UH, 72ND STREET. UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, SO IT'S THE GUARD RAILS, IT'S THE TRIANGLES, THE AC CANOPY, AC SCREENING, UM, ADDING SOME, UH, REVEALS ALONG 72ND STREET TO ENHANCE THAT FACADE. UM, ADDITIONAL WINDOWS ON THE NORTH WALLS. THOSE STAFF DOES RECOMMEND MAKING THEM EVEN LARGER THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UM, SOME CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN. UM, SO THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE PATH, THE PATH WAS ALWAYS THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE TOPOGRAPHY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE SITE, TO THE SITE PLAN THERE, UM, MAINTAINING THE, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOW INCORPORATING IT, MAINTAINING THE, THE, UH, SEA GRAPES ALONG COLLINS AVENUE, THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES SCREENING. UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED. AND THE ABILITY TO INCORPORATE THE, THE OLD GLORY MONUMENTS, IF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVES THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LONG DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD ON OTHER ISSUES MM-HMM . BUT I DON'T RECALL SEEING ANY RAILS. , I RECALL THE TRIANGLES, BUT WHERE IN THIS MEMOIR, ALL THESE, I SEE SEVEN ITEMS COVERED UNDER THE PROJECT. THEY'RE IN THE, THEY'RE LISTED UNDER THE ANALYSIS. THEY'RE IN PARAGRAPH FORM. SO THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL LISTED THERE. UH, UNDER WHICH AREA? IF YOU GO TO PAGE, THEY START AT PAGE SEVEN. AND IF YOU GO, THE FIRST THREE PARAGRAPHS ARE, ARE BASICALLY A, A JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS APPROVED. IF YOU GO TO THE THIRD PARAGRAPH MM-HMM . THAT'S WHERE WE START DESCRIBING ALL THESE CHANGES. SO DO WE HAVE TO LIST EACH AND EVERY, UM, ITEM THAT IS BEING REQUESTED OR NO? NO. ONLY IF YOU WANNA CHANGE SOMETHING FROM WHAT'S LISTED, BUT OTHERWISE YOU CAN JUST APPROVE. YOU CAN, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, I, I DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T HEAR TOO MANY ISSUES WITH WHAT THE CHANGES THEY WERE SUGGESTING. UM, SO IF PERHAPS IT'S OKAY TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING, BUT THEN MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF TO ACTIVATE THE OPEN SPACES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH THE INCLUSION OF PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES, CHAIRS, AND OTHER, OTHER, UM, OTHER AMENITIES [02:10:01] TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A POSITIVE CHANGE. I, I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKED THAT THE IDEA OF USING THAT SOUTHERN PORTION, THAT PORTION WHEN, WHEN THE PLANTS CAME LAST TIME AROUND, THEY WERE PROPOSING REMOVING MOST OF THOSE TREES. AND THE SOCCER FIELDS WERE MUCH BIGGER. SO IN THE SITE PLAN, WE WOULD'VE, WE SAW LAST YEAR THAT AREA WAS OCCUPIED BY SOCCER FIELDS. NOW, BECAUSE OF THE TREES BEING MAINTAINED, THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER. AND THAT RESULTS IN A LOT MORE OPEN SPACE ON THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SEE HOW THAT CAN BE ACTIVATED. 'CAUSE IT'S A MUCH LARGER AREA THAN WE PREVIOUSLY SAW. MORE GATHERING SPACES. MM-HMM . CAN WE ADD, LIKE, TO ANALYZE THE OUTDOOR SEATING, UH, IN FRONT OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE? I KNOW ABSOLUTELY. THE STEPS AND, AND HOW THAT INTERACTS WITH, WITH THE FIELDS, JUST SO THAT THERE IS A, THERE'S CONTINUOUS ALL ALONG MM-HMM . THE, UH, THE EAST SIDE THERE. WHAT WAS THAT ONE? I'M SORRY. UM, ACTIVATE THE RETAIL. YEAH. LOOKING AT THE, THE ACTIVATION OF THE RETAIL SEATING. OH, TO THE, YEAH. ON THE NORTHEAST AND ITS CONNECTION TO THE FIELDS AND UHHUH, THE CONNECTION TO THE STREET AND SIDEWALK, AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE OUTDOOR SEATING THERE FOR. OKAY. SO LET ME TAKE A STAB AT THIS. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL CAN ADD IN TO THE ADDITIONS. I, I THINK BEFORE I, I MAKE THE MOTION, I THINK YOU WANT THIS, WHAT, WHAT I ASKED IS, DO YOU WANT THEM WORKING WITH STAFF AND ALL THESE THINGS, OR DO YOU WANT THEM COMING BACK TO THE BOARD AT A FUTURE TIME? I THINK THEY SHOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD REASON BEING IT'S THIS BOARD. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE DEMANDS OF EVERYTHING ELSE AND EVERYONE ELSE OUTSIDE. AND, UM, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE, UNLESS THEY COME BACK TO THIS BOARD TO ACTUALLY DO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LOOK INTO. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH, SO TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM AND TO PUT THE ONUS ON US, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH BIFURCATING APPROVING THE CHANGES THEY'RE REQUESTING TO THE ARCHITECTURES? THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PERMITTING, UM, AND THEN THESE OTHER SITE PLAN RELATED ISSUES THAT THOSE COME BACK. YEAH. RIGHT. I THINK THAT SITE PLAN RELATED ISSUES, YEAH. YEAH. THE ARCHITECTURAL ISSUES, I THINK WERE, WERE, WE'RE, OKAY. OKAY. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE, UM, DRB 11 61 2 99 70 SECOND STREET, THAT WE ADDITIONALLY REQUEST THAT THEY RETURN BACK TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND TO SHOW IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THE ACTIVATION OF THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, UM, TO ITS EAST CORRIDOR AND OPEN SPACE PARK AREA. UM, NUMBER TWO, THAT THE, UH, NORTHEAST CONNECTIVITY OF, OF THE FIELD, UH, BE IMPROVED TO THE EAST CORRIDOR AND COLLINS AVENUE. UM, THE EAST CORRIDOR BEING COLLINS AVENUE AND THE, UH, PARK ACROSS THE STREET, AND BANDSHELL RIGHT NOW, IT APPEARS TOTALLY BLOCKED WITH LANDSCAPING FROM GROUND TO, UM, HEIGHT, UM, ABOVE A PERSON'S HEIGHT. UM, THAT WE LOOK AT THE, UM, AND, AND LOOK AT THE OPENINGS WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPING. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A FENCE, THE OPENING TO THE, OF THE LANDSCAPING TO THE, UM, COLLINS CORRIDOR IN EAST VIEW. THIRD, THAT WE LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING, UM, COMMUNITY, UM, UH, AREAS, UM, TO CONGREGATE, UM, WITHIN THE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTHEAST COR CORRIDORS CORNERS, UM, FOR SEATING. AND, UM, DID WE MI DID I MISS ANY OF THEM? I KNOW I'M MISSING SOMETHING. JUST GATHERING SPACE, HUH? JUST GENERAL GATHERING SPACE, I GUESS. YEAH. AND FOR GENERAL GATHERING SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST. SO, UM, THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN AS TWO SEPARATE VOTES. THE FIRST VOTE WOULD BE TWO, OR THE FIRST MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE ARCHITECTURAL MODIFICATIONS. AND THEN THE SECOND VOTE WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. MM-HMM . OKAY. [02:15:01] DO, DO YOU, UM, TO THE, TO THE ARCHITECT, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD BE, WOULD BE READY TO COME BACK TO THE, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH PERMITTING OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, IF THIS MOTION PASSES, BUT THERE ARE SOME SITE PLAN ISSUES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED, DO YOU THINK, UM, YOU COULD ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? UH, NEXT MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR, UM, UM, TALKING TO MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BECAUSE IF WE DO A, IF WE, IF WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE CERTAIN, UM, IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER. OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE TO RE-NOTICE IT AT A FUTURE DATE. UM, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO COME. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK PROCEDURALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN. THERE ARE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT NEED TO REVIEW IT. SO CIP WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE MEETINGS WITH PARKS AND REC, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT AND THE OPERATOR. SO I DON'T THINK A MONTH IS ENOUGH TIME. I THINK TWO MONTHS AT A, AT A MINIMUM. AT A MINIMUM. SO THE JUNE MEETING WOULD BE, WHAT IS THE JUNE? JUNE 11TH. JUNE 11TH. AND IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN CONTINUE AT THAT POINT. YEAH. BUT YEAH, I'LL, I THINK IT'S OKAY, BUT I, I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. WELL, WE CAN SAY JUNE 11TH FOR NOW, AND IF YOU NEED MORE, JUST LET US KNOW AND THEY CAN, THE BOARD CAN CONTINUE, AND IF THEY WANNA COME SOONER, THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S UP TO YOU WHENEVER YOU FEEL YOU'RE READY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. UM, SO I HAVE, I HAVE, UM, APPROVE THE REQUESTED CHANGES AND THEN REQUEST, THEN WE'LL ADD A CONDITION TO, SO WE'LL ADD A CONDITION TO THE DRAFT ORDER THAT THE, THAT THE, UM, THAT THE, TO THE, TO THE APPROVED ORDER THAT THE APPLICANT WILL RETURN TO THE DRB AT A FUTURE DATE. AND WE'LL SCHEDULE IT, WE'LL CONTINUE IT FOR JUNE 11TH. AND THAT'S FOR THE ACTIVATION OF THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, UH, THAT NORTHEAST CONNECT, NORTHEAST CONNECTIVITY AND VISIBILITY, BE INPRO EASTWARD, UH, CONNECTIVITY AND VISIBILITY BE IMPROVED. AND THEN THREE, UM, LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING COMMUNITY, UH, AREAS IN THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS, INCLUDING SEATING, SEATING AND OTHER GATHERING, UH, UM, SPACES. SPACES. AND CAN WE SEE SOME COLOR OPTIONS FOR THE ART? WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, UM, ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE COLORS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY, SO I JUST WANNA, NO, I THINK I UNDERSTAND. I ALSO WANNA SAY I WROTE FOUR BOOKS ON COLORS IN ARCHITECTURE. I'M AN EDUCATOR. I TEACH HER HOW ABOUT EXACTLY THIS TOPIC. AND I CAN SEE WE HAVE 15 PEOPLE HERE, AND ONE WILL LIKE A DIFFERENT COLOR, AND I'LL CHANGE THE COLOR. AND SOMEBODY WILL, IS A VERY SUBJECTIVE MATTER. I'M HAPPY TO DO MORE. UM, I THINK THOUGH THIS, IF THERE IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A SUBJECTIVE COMPONENT TO THAT, I THINK THE GREEN OF THE CITY IS PHENOMENAL. ACTUALLY. I THINK IT'S, IT IS . I CAN CHANGE IT TO ANOTHER COLOR THAT MIGHT PIECE SOMEBODY ELSE AND MIGHT DISPLAY SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT I'M, IT'S NOT ABOUT MY AMOUNT OF WORK. IT'S, I LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN COLORS, UH, BOTH IN ARTWORK, IN ARCHITECTURE. I WOULD EXTENSIVELY, I TEACH CLASSES ON IT. I JUST WANNA PUT A FORWARD THAT I DON'T HAVE SMALL EXPERTISE, HIGH EXPERTISE ON THIS. AND I THINK THERE'S A HIGH SUBJECTIVITY THAT WILL ALWAYS BE IN PLAY . THAT THAT'S ALL OF COURSE, AS, AS IS THE NATURE OF ART, RIGHT? YES. UM, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, OKAY, MICRO, I JUST HAVE A FEELING WITH THIS COLOR AND THE COLOR SCHEME AROUND THE BUILDING, THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT AS WELCOMING AS, UH, AS A COLOR COULD BE. AND WE COULD RESPOND TO, AND IT MAY JUST BE A SHADE, UH, LEVEL OF IT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE IT IF IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO, AND THEN YOU YEAH. TO EXPLORE. AND THEN YOU MAY BE RIGHT. WE MAY SAY, UH, NO, NO, THE ORIGINAL COLOR IS GREAT. IT JUST, FOR SOME REASON, I FIND IT JARRING FOR A PLACE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, WARM AND WELCOM. I THINK IT'S LIGHT, IT'S, UH, SUNSHINE IS, MIAMI IS A COLOR OF THE CITY. IT'S QUITE YOUNG, ACTUALLY. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS FOR FAMILIES. SO IT WANTS TO GIVE A POP TO IT RATHER THAN BEING NATURAL. I MEAN, I LOOK HERE, THIS IS, OF COURSE IT'S TENUOUS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT EVEN, UM, IT, IT'S THE BACKGROUND. WE WANTED TO HAVE A MORE PRESENCE. BUT AGAIN, I DEFINITELY CAN'T DO THE RENDERINGS. IT'S NOT INITIAL RENDERINGS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE CONCERN YOU HAVE IS REALLY TO BE SUBJECTIVE. AND, UM, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE GONE THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF THOSE STUDIES BEFORE ARRIVING HERE. LIKE IT'S, IT'S EIGHT MONTHS PROCESS OF MORE RENDERINGS, MORE COLORS, MORE TEST PRINTS. AND I, I DO LOVE IT. SO THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM. BUT IT'S NOT COMING FROM A POINT OF NOT WANTING TO, UM, DO MORE WORK. ACTUALLY, WE'VE DONE TONS OF WORK THAT DOESN'T SHOW. I DO THINK THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT CHOICE. [02:20:01] ARE YOU, UH, I THINK MAYBE THE WAY I'M, UM, PERCEIVING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, UM, BESIDES THE SHADES OF THE COLOR, WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE AN A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS THE BUILDING, THE COLORS OF THE BUILDING ARE ONE THING, AND THIS IS A SEPARATE THING WHILE ATTACHED TO THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT IS A PIECE OF ARTWORK AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME COLOR SCHEME AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING. YEAH. I THINK THERE'S JUST, UH, A TWEAK WITH THAT. THERE'S SOMETHING OFF VISUALLY, UH, TO ME. AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MANIPULATE A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF, UM, I'M DEAD WRONG. SO YOU, YOU COULD MAKE A A, A MOTION TO SEE A COLOR STUDY OF, OF THE BUILDING THE ART IN THE BUILDING. THE COLORS ARE, I THINK THEY'RE CONNECTED. YEAH. AND WE'VE ONLY SEEN THE ONE VERSION OF IT. AND SO DO YOU WANNA SEE A, A JUST A, A SUBTLE, LIKE A SUBTLE SORT OF, UM, SERIES WHERE WE COULD SEE DIFFERENT COLORS? YEAH, JUST NOTHING, UH, JUST TO SEE AN, AN OPTION OR TWO WHERE WE, AND MAYBE IT'S SHOWING WHAT YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY DID. UM, AND I KNOW THE COLOR'S SUBJECTIVE, AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. SO IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING STRONG, I THINK THIS IS OUR, OUR ONLY, OUR ONLY CHANCE TO, THIS IS A BIG, BIG BUILDING. I KNOW THE BUILDING COLOR ISN'T IN OUR PURVIEW BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE, BUT THE SIGNAGE, IT'S ART. BUT SINCE IT'S CONNECTED TO THE ART, I THINK THAT WE CAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND, AND BRING IT UP. YEAH. AND IT'S ART THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED IN THE RENDERINGS. AND I DUNNO WHERE THAT FALLS IN THE, IN THE MOTION. DO YOU NEED TO TAKE A MOTION ON THAT? OR IF YOU WANT INCORPORATE INTO THE SAME MOTION, INCORPORATE INTO THE SAME. IT WOULD JUST BE THE FOURTH CONDITION. ON THE SECOND MOTION. DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THE SECOND MOTION? WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE, TO THE OTHER TWO MOTIONS. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . I'LL SECOND THE SECOND MOTION. OKAY. SO THE FIRST MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS APPROVING CHANGES. MM-HMM . THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY MS. OLI. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECOND. SECOND BY MR. LESTER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? A NAY. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, SO THE MOTION PASSES, UH, SIX TO ONE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE SECOND REGARDING A SECOND MOTION, UH, WITH THE CHANGES. AGAIN, I THINK THAT MOTION'S COMING FROM MS. POLI. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ONE? I THINK INCLUDING THE ART. INCLUDING THE ART, THE STUDY, THE COLOR OF THE ART, UH, IN PARTICULAR THE GREEN, UH, IN, IN PARTICULAR THE GREEN COLOR. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, I HEARD MR. PIS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE COMING BACK. IT'S SCHEDULED TO COME BACK ON JUNE 11TH. UM, AND THEN IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, UM, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT, SO THE, THE CHANGES TO THE BUILDING ARE APPROVED. UM, THIS WOULD BE JUST TWEAKS TO THE SITE PLAN INTO LOOKING AT THE COLORS OF THE ART. I, I JUST GOTTA SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE, WE'RE PASSING A FAILING CHILD INTO THE NEXT GRADE, UM, I, I JUST, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST, I JUST FEEL THAT THE WHOLE ENTIRE DESIGN OF THAT FIRST FLOOR IS NOT THE HIGHEST BEST IN USE OF THE SPACE AND THE LOCATION. AND, AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU KNOW, COMPANY WOULD EVER DO THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING DONE BY THE PUBLIC SECTOR SIDE. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S JUST MEDIOCRE WHERE BUILDING THIS MONSTROSITY BUILDING TO HAVE THIS POOL, AND WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE REAL ESTATE AROUND IT. IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR PROBABLY FOR A YEAR, NOT BEING ON A BOARD, BUT TO OTHER PEOPLE. AND IT'S JUST, UH, I THINK IT'S JUST A SHAME. THAT'S IT. DO WE WANT TO ISSUE A LETTER AS, AS THIS BOARD? I MEAN, I WOULD DO ANYTHING I COULD POSSIBLY DO TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T WANNA DELAY THIS PROCESS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE THERE FOR DECADES. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND WHY ARE YOU, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND. I'M SAYING, OH, WELL WE HAVE THIS LIMITATION WITH PARKING, THEN TAKE THE BUILDING ONE FLOOR HIGHER AND ADD MORE PARKING, BUT CREATE A REAL TOWN AREA THERE THAT YOU COULD WATCH YOUR KID PLAY SOCCER THERE AND HAVE, HAVE A AVITA DOWNSTAIRS ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND HAVE A [02:25:01] PROMENADE THERE AND OR, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THAT SPACE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD ENVISION THAT IF I HAD A MAGIC WAND THAT WOULD HAVE KIND OF LIKE A JC JCC ELEMENT INTO THERE, LIKE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, AN OIC MIAMI WHERE KIDS COULD ENJOY THAT ALL THE TIME THERE. AS WELL AS DOING THE SWIMMING AS WELL AS GOING TO THE LIBRARY AS WELL AS BEING A REAL COMMUNITY SPACE. IT FEELS TO ME IT'S A POOL IN A GARAGE, IN A FIELD, AND NOTHING TO GLUE IT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT LIKE SOMEWHERE I WANT TO GO AND HANG OUT THERE AND SPEND MY TIME THERE WHILE MY KIDS ARE THERE, WHILE, YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL THAT'S JUST LACKING IN THE PROJECT OVERALL. AND IT'S LIKE, LET'S JUST GET THIS DONE. IT'S ON, WE'RE ON THE HORSE. JUST KEEP ON PASSING IT THROUGH AND MOVING IT FORWARD AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE? IT, IT'S NOT A, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT. PROJECT. IT'S NOT ABOUT, I'M, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT I'M PASSING A FAILING A, A FAILING CHILD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY VOTE IS NOT GONNA CHANGE THE PROJECT. AND THE, AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE ARE NOT CHARGED WITH PROGRAMMING. RIGHT. UM, WE'RE NOT CHARGED WITH, UM, UM, ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED UNTIL IT COMES TO US. AND AT THAT POINT, TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S FAILURE COMPLETE. YEAH. WHICH IS WHY I'M SAYING I FEEL LIKE I'M PASSING A, A FAILING CHILD. BUT THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS THE PROGRAMMING. AND WHY WAS PROGRAMMING DONE IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GARAGE FOR SO MANY SPACES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE NOT A PASSIVE PARK ELEMENT TO THIS, BUT MORE OF A, UH, STRUCTURED AND PICKUP FIELD AND TWO POOLS, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE NEEDED IF, IF IT WAS JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. UM, SO, AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT PROGRAMMING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR PROBABLY FIVE, SIX YEARS, UM, WE ARE NOT A PART OF IT. SO ALL THAT COMES TO US AS A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IS THE DESIGN, THE OUTSIDE, AND EVEN THEN, I AGREE, UH, THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS PROGRAMMING THAT'S REQUESTED. BUT THE ARCHITECT'S, UM, CHALLENGE IS TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS FOR PROGRAMMING WHILE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THE OCEAN TO THE EAST. AND TO ECHO THAT, ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY TO ENHANCE WHAT WE SEE AND ADD TO IT, OR, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK, WHICH IS MY POINT, WHICH IS MY POINT. I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST PASSING ON. OKAY, NEXT STEP. GO AHEAD, KEEP, CONTINUE WITH THIS. IT'S JUST, IT JUST FEELS BAD. DID, UH, LET ME ASK YOU, ROGELIO, DID THIS PROJECT GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD? UM, NO. DO YOU KNOW? NO, NO, IT DOES NOT. IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD? NO. WHY WOULD IT NOT GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD? THE GU DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE GU DISTRICT ONLY REQUIRES THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BUILDINGS GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. OKAY. SO IF THIS WAS, UH, THE CITY WAS DOING A, A DEAL WITH SOME PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO DO THIS AND MAYBE PROVIDE SOME PUBLIC USES, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD THEN WOULD HAVE PLANNING BOARD. MM-HMM . BUT MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY TO BE THE LEADER AND THE EXAMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO PERMEABLE AREA AND NOT GIVING THEMSELVES LESS OF A REQUIREMENT THAN IT GIVES ITS RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING. BUT ALSO THE IDEA THAT MAYBE A PROJECT LIKE THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PROJECT, THAT IT GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT BEING SAID, I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT HAS SO MUCH INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY IN NORTH BEACH, THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PLAN, I, I DON'T KNOW. UM, JUST DOESN'T FEEL GOOD IS ALL I'M SAYING. YEAH. IT OKAY. NOT SOMETHING I'M PROUD OF. I, I DON'T MEAN TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF A LETTER EVEN ACTUALLY DOES ANYTHING, BUT IT AT LEAST HOLDS ON RECORD THAT WE AS A BOARD. YEAH. ROGELIO, CAN YOU DRAFT SOMETHING FOR US TO REVIEW THE NEXT MEETING? SURE. OKAY. I MEAN, DO, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'D LIKE ME TO INCORPORATE OR? NO, THE ONES WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WHERE ACTIVATE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, PERMEABILITY IS THE SAME, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC PROJECT OR A PRIVATE PROJECT, UM, FACADES. AND THE MOST PROMINENT AREA OF, OF THE PROJECT IS BEING USED AS PARKING SPACES COVERED WITH A WINDOW TO LOOK AT THE FIELD. I MEAN, IT'S JUST ABSURD. [02:30:02] THE, UM, IF THEY DISCUSS THAT, THE ISSUE OF IT SHOULD BE A NOTICE. YEAH. IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A DRAFT LETTER TO COMMISSION? I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A LETTER TO COMMISSION. SECOND. SECOND FOR THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE, UM, SO BASICALLY HAVE LIKE A DISCUSSION ITEM AT THE FOLLOWING? AT THE FOLLOWING? UM, NO, NO, NO. IT'S A LETTER TO COMMISSION MM-HMM . THAT WOULD BE SENT TO THE COMMISSION, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, CITY MANAGER, EVERYBODY ELSE THAT GETS A PLANNING DIRECTOR MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULDN'T TASK THE CITY WITH LESS REQUIREMENTS THAN THE PUBLIC. SO PERMEABILITY AND GREEN SPACE SHOULD BE THE SAME REQUIREMENT, OR, OR AT LEAST SIMILAR GOING FORWARD. ONE, A PROJECT LIKE THIS, WHICH IS A BIG PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PUBLIC PRIVATE VENTURE, IT SHOULD GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR INPUT. AND MAYBE IT COULD BE A JOINT COMMITTEE OF PLANNING BOARD AND PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. I, I, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S UP TO THEM. IS THE DIRECTION TO BRING BACK A DRAFT FOR THE, THE MAY AT THE NEXT MEETING? YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S OUR WAY TO BE, TO BE HEARD ABOUT THIS FOR FUTURE. YEAH. SHOULD THAT BE DONE AS A LETTER TO COMMISSION? BUT I'M JUST, JUST, UH, UM, PROCEDURALLY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING AN ITEM THAT'S NOT BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, SHOULD THAT BE DONE AS A CONTINUATION OF THIS ITEM? OH, SHOULD THEY CONTINUE AN ITEM REGARDING THIS TO DISCUSS AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING? YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. JUST, I, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA, THERE'S NO ITEM YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT AS A NEW ITEM BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING, UM, A PROJECT THAT IS BEFORE YOU, BUT IN A, YOU'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING IT IN A MOMENT THAT'S NOT PROPERLY BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE UNNOTICED. UM, AND IS IT A PUBLIC DISCUSSION? THE LETTER THAT WE'RE WRITING? UM, IF YOU CONTINUE IT, WELL, YOU ALREADY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YEAH. BUT YOU COULD OPEN IT UP PUBLIC IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CHIME IN. NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING YOU DRAFT A LETTER FOR US, IS THAT PUBLIC PURVIEW ON WHAT THAT LETTER SAYS? YES. YES. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S AN OFFICIAL ACTION, THAT WORD. AND YOU WOULDN'T BE TAKING QUASI-JUDICIAL ACTION ON, ON THE LAND USE APPLICATION IN THE LETTER, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT IT'S CONNECTED WITH THE APPLICATION IS OKAY. SO THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO THE MAY, UH, MAY 14TH MEETING. I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT WILL CONTINUE. HE'S GONNA BRING ROGELIO, YOU'RE GONNA BRING A DRAFT OF THE LETTER YES. IN COURT. AND PUT IT IN THE AGENDA YEAH. FOR US TO SAY, YES, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING, OR, OR AMEND IT OR ADD THIS, TAKE THIS OUT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE IT IS USUALLY WHEN YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY'RE MORE GENERAL. THEY, THEY APPLY TO EY. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT. SO, UM, SO I JUST WANT TO PROCEDURALLY MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S ON RECORD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING, UM, SO THAT IT'S APPROPRIATELY BEFORE THE BOARD. SO THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M, I WANTED TO BE LISTED AS CONTINUANCE. WE'LL DISCUSS IT DURING CONTINUANCES, YES. OKAY. YEAH. UNDER THIS ADDRESS. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS, RIGHT. TRYING TO FOLLOW ALL THIS MM-HMM . OKAY. AND MAYBE YOU CAN COME BACK IN MAY AND LET US KNOW AS TO THE PARTICIPATION, THE FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. UM, JUST LET TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT IN YOUR PRO, IN YOUR BUDGET. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. UM, OH, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THAT. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MS. OLI, I THINK MR. ION, YOU SAID YOU WOULD SECOND THAT? MM-HMM . OKAY. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES. HOW MANY PROJECTS DO YOU FORESEE AT THE NEXT AGENDA SO FAR? GOOD QUESTION. GIVE US MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES. MAY WE HAVE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, THREE PROJECTS. THREE. AND NOW THE, AND THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE. SO FOUR PRIVATE PROJECTS. UM, TWO OF THEM ARE PRIVATE. ONE OF THEM IS, UM, IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. UM, IT'S THE PADDLE COURTS THAT [02:35:01] WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, THE, ON THE 17TH STREET GARAGE. AH, YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, DISCUSSION ITEMS AND PROGRESS REPORTS. WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS OR PROGRESS REPORTS. UH, THE NEXT MEETING [FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: May 14, 2026] IS MAY 14TH. UM, THAT IS THAT, IS IT MEETING ADJOURNED? MM-HMM . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.