03:21. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE MAY 1ST ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETING.
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I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE AND WELCOME OUR NEWEST MEMBER, MENDEL FELLIG A LONG TIME MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT, AND I THINK HE'LL DO A GREAT JOB ON THE BOARD.AND WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED WITH ATTENDANCE.
[ATTENDANCE]
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL.MISS MIRMELLLI. HERE. MISS SILVERMAN. HERE. MR. FELLIG. HERE. MR. KREINIK. PRESENT. MR. NAGLER.
HERE. MR. SILVERS. HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SIX OF SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
OKAY, GREAT. LET'S CONTINUE WITH ANY CITY UPDATES.
[CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES]
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS (877) 853-5257, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 828 6961 5309#, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 82869615309. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION. IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, CORPORATION OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.
IF YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING AND WHO ARE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS.
[SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC]
THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM WILL HAVE TO BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE SPEAKING TO THE BOARD.SO PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU WILL BE SPEAKING.
THANK YOU. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM OUR APRIL 10TH MEETING.
[1. AFTER ACTION REPORT – APRIL 10, 2026 ]
IF YOU NEED A MINUTE TO REVIEW, LET ME KNOW. I NOTICED THAT IT SAID YOU WERE ABSENT, JANET.AND I THINK YOU WERE HERE. I WAS HERE. SO I JUST NOTICED IT SAID ABSENT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ON THE MINUTES. YEAH, I THOUGHT SO.
YEAH. AND ACTUALLY STEVEN DAVIS IS LISTED THERE AND HE WASN'T.
NO, HE WAS JUST ABSENT. BUT IT WAS FROM THE TEMPLATE AND I JUST FORGOT TO UPDATE IT.
I WILL CORRECT THAT, I APOLOGIZE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES.
DO I HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR? MINUTES PASS. THANK YOU. NEXT. I SEE WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES.
[2. ZBA22-0143, 125-153 COLLINS AVENUE]
YES. SO THESE ARE THE TWO APPEALS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE AGENDA.SO FOR THE FIRST ITEM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE DATE FOR THE JUNE MEETING.
THE FERC COMMITTEE IS TAKING OVER THE DATE OF THE JUNE BOE MEETING.
SO WE CAN EITHER THE BEST SITUATION WOULD BE THAT WE MOVE IT TO THE JULY MEETING.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION TO MOVE IT TO THE JULY MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE JULY 10TH.
ALTERNATIVELY, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE DATES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT IF EVERYONE'S OKAY MOVING IT TO JULY 10TH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE EASIEST OPTION. FOR ME, THAT'S BEST.
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I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT TO THE JUNE MEETING.DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ISSUE? I WON'T BE HERE.
THERE'S NO ISSUE MOVING. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. YOU MAY NOT HAVE.
LET ME SEE WHAT THE DATES ARE FOR JUNE. THE JUNE DATES THAT HE MENTIONED DOESN'T WORK FOR ME, BUT YOU CAN STEP UP. GIVE ME THE GAVEL.
THE 10TH AND THE 12TH. LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK.
ARE THEY GOING TO EVEN COME OR IS IT GOING TO BE CONTINUE? I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN CONTINUING IT. WE HAVE NO NEW APPLICATIONS ON THE JUNE AGENDA.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE ANY ITEMS THAT ARE CONTINUED TODAY.
DID THEY NOT CONTINUE THE COLLINS FOR LIKE A YEAR ALMOST.
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE URGENT TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
WHY IS THIS EMAIL NOT COMING? OKAY, SO THE OPTIONS ARE. JUNE. YEAH, 10TH AND 12TH, THE DATES THAT I MENTIONED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE DATES WORK FOR EVERYBODY, FOR ANYBODY, FOR MOST MEMBERS.
OTHERWISE WE CAN CONTINUE TO JULY AND IF WE NEED TO KEEP CONTINUING.
OKAY. SO 10TH WORKS FOR MAY 12TH DOESN'T. WORKS FOR ME.
THEY WORK FOR YOU? YEAH, JUST NOT ME, BUT JANET.
MR. DO THOSE DATES WORK FOR YOU, MR. SILVERS? JUNE 10TH. YEAH.
SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD, BUT WE CAN MOVE IT TO EITHER JUNE 10TH OR 12TH.
SO IF THEY CONTINUE IT AGAIN WE JUST WANT THE MEETING. OKAY.
UNLESS THE 605 LINCOLN ROAD. OR DO WE HAVE TO THEN VOTE TO CONTINUE IT? WE HAVE TO COME TO THE MEETING JUST TO VOTE TO CONTINUE IT, OR WE JUST PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. IF THE MEETING, WE CAN IF THE MEETING GETS CANCELED, THEN IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY MOVE TO THE NEXT SO MOTION. MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JUNE 10TH. SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SORRY. SORRY. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. SO DO WE JUST, IN EFFECT, MOVE THE JUNE MEETING? YEAH. IN ADDITION TO CONTINUING, WE JUST DID TWO THINGS AT ONCE.
WE WE WILL PUBLISH THAT THE JUNE 10TH THAT THE JUNE MEETING WAS MOVED TO JUNE 10TH.
GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO NEW APPLICATIONS, THERE'S NO MAIL NOTICE THAT WENT OUT WITH AN INCORRECT DATE. THESE ARE CONTINUED ITEMS. SO ANYBODY WHO WAS INTERESTED IN THESE ITEMS WOULD BE LISTENING TODAY AND WOULD KNOW THAT THEY WERE MOVED TO JUNE 10TH.
I'M JUST SAYING I CAN CROSS OFF OF MY CALENDAR JUNE 5TH.
YES. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE NEXT CONTINUED ITEM IS 605 LINCOLN ROAD.
[3. ZBA24-0161, 605 LINCOLN ROAD UNIT 800RF]
YOUR NEXT. OKAY. THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS CONTINUED.ALSO AN APPEAL. IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT, THE ONE OF THE TENANTS OF THE BUILDING PREVIOUSLY WANTED THE ITEM HEARD. HOWEVER, WE WERE INFORMED THAT BOTH ARE OKAY WITH THE CONTINUANCE AT THIS POINT.
THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE A USE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN APPEAL.
SO THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED.
AND SO WE CAN DO THAT ALSO TO THE JUNE 10TH MEETING.
OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. KREINIK. ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE HAVE A PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED APPLICATION ZBA
[4. ZBA25-0177, 3010 ALTON ROAD]
25-0177 3010 ALTON ROAD. OKAY. THANK YOU.THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING AFTER THE FACT VARIANCES FOR LOT COVERAGE, UNIT SIZE,
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INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACKS, OPEN SPACE AND ARTIFICIAL GRASS REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO LEGALIZE MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING TWO STORY HOME.HI GUYS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE. WE JUST GOT RETAINED THIS WEEK ON THIS MATTER.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO GET CONTINUED.
JULY 10TH SEEMS FINE SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
WE'RE LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION EARLIER. SO JUNE 10TH, JUNE 10TH.
JULY. JUNE, WHICHEVER. SO, BUT THE MORE TIME, THE BETTER FOR US.
WE LITERALLY JUST GOT RETAINED THIS WEEK. SO. THERE'S SOME OTHER PEOPLE AT THE PODIUM.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM AS WELL.
ARE YOU TOGETHER? YES. MY NAME IS AUSSIE LIPPMAN.
I KNOW THAT I WASN'T PRESENT IN THE LAST MEETING.
THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE PRESENT HERE TODAY, WHO SPOKE IN THE LAST MEETING ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING YOU WITH A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION INCLUDING A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO ROGELIO ALEJANDRO GARBIDO, AND MR. ROTHSTEIN STATING THAT WE WERE TRYING TO INTIMIDATE THEM, ASK THEM THEM TO DROP ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE FILED WITH THE CITY, AND THEY COPIED YOU GUYS WITH OUR CEASE AND DESIST AND REMOVED PART OF THE LETTER WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM TO COME TO THE CITY FOR THEIR COMPLAINTS.
THIS WHOLE SITUATION HAS STARTED FOR A PERSONAL REASON.
MR. BORGHINI HERE HAS MADE SEXUAL PASSES AT ME SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MY MOVE THERE.
WE ACTUALLY MOVED OUT OF OUR PROPERTY FOR THE AMOUNT OF HARASSMENT.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL AFFIDAVITS THERE FROM ONCE I MOVE, THEY HARASS THE TENANTS.
THEY HAVE MADE FALSE ALLEGATIONS OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.
HE HAS HAD ISSUES WITH RACISM. ANYTIME A BLACK PERSON COMES, THEY TAKE PICTURES OF.
THEY HAVE ALLEGEDLY SAID THIS IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY HAD A BLACK GUEST.
THEY HAVE CONSTANTLY ACCUSED US OF SHORT TERM RENTAL.
WHILE I WAS LIVING THERE, THEY CAME, I SHOWED MY ID, MY COUSIN SHOWED HER ID AND PROVED THAT WE WERE BOTH OWNER AND COUSIN OF THE OWNER LIVING THERE. SO THIS HAS COME TO A SITUATION WHERE THIS IS NO LONGER A VARIANCE HEARING.
IT'S BECOME A PERSONAL SITUATION. SO I HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE.
EXPLAIN. I'VE SENT A LETTER TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE COPIED IN THEIR FALSE ALLEGATIONS, SAYING, WE ARE TRYING TO INTIMIDATE THEM INTO NOT FILING ANYTHING WITH THE CITY, BUT REMOVING THE PART OF THE LETTER WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM TO CONTACT THE CITY AND STOP CONTACTING PEOPLE IN OUR PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE APPROACHED GUESTS OF THE TENANT PRIOR TO ME BEING INVOLVED.
THIS IS AN IMPROPER USE OF MY PRIVACY, OF MY PROPERTY.
THEY CANNOT BE TAKING PICTURES. THEY CANNOT BE HARASSING PEOPLE.
THEY CAN COME AND MAKE COMPLAINTS TO YOU GUYS, BUT THEY CANNOT CONTINUE ACTUALLY COMING AFTER EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT STEPS ON THAT PROPERTY. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ONGOING SITUATION SINCE 2022.
WE DO HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF DOCUMENTATION THERE.
WE CAN PROVIDE PLENTY MORE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, BOTH THE CHILDREN LIVING IN THE HOUSE ARE ALLERGIC TO GRASS, TO THE POINT THAT YOU WILL SEE BRAIN SWELLING FOR OVER TWO MONTHS.
YOU HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THERE, AND THE ONLY REASON WE DID THE TURF IS FOR THAT REASON.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF AN AESTHETIC REASON, AND MY MEDICAL NEEDS AND THAT OF MY CHILDREN CANNOT BE SUPERSEDED BY A DESIRE OF A CITY TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NATURE.
WE DID DONATE A HEFTY AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THE GREEN SPACE WAS IT?
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FOR THE TREE REPLACEMENT. FOR TREE REPLACEMENTS. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO FIX THE ISSUE, BUT THIS HAS BECOME A PERSONAL HARASSMENT AT THIS POINT.AND WE WERE GOING TO FILE A CIVIL LAWSUIT. WE WERE WAITING FOR THIS TO GET RESOLVED.
SO THIS DIDN'T BECOME A CIRCUS BECAUSE THIS IS A VARIANCE HEARING, NOT A PERSONAL HEARING.
BUT THE PERSONAL MATTERS HERE ARE CONTINUING TO AFFECT THE VARIANCE.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT CORRECT.
WE HAVE AFFIDAVITS FOR THAT. SO THE AMOUNT OF HARASSMENT IN MY PROPERTY WHEN NOT NOW.
I'VE CANCELED THE LEASE. I'VE LOST PLENTY OF MONEY OF INCOME FROM THE LEASE BECAUSE I'M PAYING FOR A MORTGAGE, THAT A HOUSE THAT IS EMPTY. AND NOW WE HAVE GOTTEN A NEW LEASE IN.
AND MR. BORGHINI ACTUALLY WENT AHEAD AND HARASSED THE REALTOR, ACCUSING HIM OF BEING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, AND WENT AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE PROSPECTIVE TENANTS AND THEIR CARS.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF PROOF FROM TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
SO YOU COULD SEE THERE'S NO CEMENT UNDERNEATH.
EVERYTHING WAS DONE CORRECTLY, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ALSO ACCUSING US OF FALSELY HAVING HOMESTEAD, WHICH I'VE NEVER HOMESTEADED ANY OF MY HOUSES.
BUT THE PERSONAL ISSUES HERE ARE CAUSING A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THIS THAT IS NOT BEING SEEN.
SO I WANTED TO SHED SOME LIGHT INTO THAT. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE ACTUAL CEASE AND DESIST WHERE WE ASKED THEM NOT TO APPROACH ANYBODY IN THE HOUSE, INCLUDING ME, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TO AN AGGRESSIVE, AN AGGRESSION POINT WHERE THEY CALLED SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND IN THE VIDEO OF THE PERSON THAT IN THE CHEST, I HAVE REQUESTED PUBLIC RECORDS FOR YOU GUYS.
HE GOT SO AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS ME THAT I ACTUALLY ENDED UP TELLING THE PERSON ISSUING THE COMPLAINT TO MEET ME AT MY OTHER PROPERTY SO WE CAN FINISH DISCUSSING BECAUSE I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.
THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOTTEN. SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE SOME LIGHT INTO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE ANYONE ELSE? HI, MY NAME IS LAURA SCHEER.
I'M THE PERMIT RUNNER, AND WE DO HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU GUYS.
WE ARE REQUESTING THE CONTINUANCE JUST BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS HAVE JUST BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL MATTERS THAT CAME UP WITHIN THE LAST MEETING, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO BE VARIANCE. AND THE ONLY THING REALLY HAVING TO DO WITH THE VARIANCE IN REGARDS TO THIS, THAT THE NEIGHBORS DID COMPLAIN ABOUT WAS THE TURF WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU GUYS WITH IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE BROUGHT WITH PROPER DOCUMENTATION, SHOWING THAT THE TURF WAS INSTALLED CORRECTLY AND THE OWNERS HAD MORE THAN WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT AND JUST CHECK THAT IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. BUT OUR MAIN, THE MAIN CONCERN WITH ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAS TO DO WITH THIS VARIANCE IS THE TURF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PUTTING THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING AS FAR AS THIS VARIANCE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHERS SUCH AS NEW PLANS, REVISED PLANS FOR SPIRAL STAIRCASE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT DO HAVE TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROCESS. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE.
ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES ON THIS APPLICATION BEFORE WE MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO. THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]. OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SORRY. HI. I'M STEVEN BORGHINI. I AM THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
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YOU CAN SEE HER HISTORY OF FALSE STATEMENTS IN ALL HER DEALINGS WITH THE CITY AND HOW SHE'S DEALT WITH THE CITY SHOULD SHOW YOU HOW MUCH CREDENCE TO PUT INTO WHAT SHE SAYS. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ADDRESS THE RIDICULOUS STATEMENTS SHE'S MADE.AND I'D LIKE TO HEARD, AND I'D LIKE YOU TO ASK HER ON ON UNDER OATH IF SHE WOULD SAY THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD SHORT TERM RENTALS, THEY HAD AT LEAST THREE BEFORE THE ONE YEAR LONG TERM TENANT, AND THEY'VE HAD AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS IN THERE THAT WERE THERE DURING SPRING BREAK FOR LESS, ALL FOR LESS THAN A WEEK, ONE HAVING A BIG PARTY AND THE OTHER ONE, AND THEY WERE CITED THE TIME THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON CAME, THEY WERE CITED FOR HAVING FOR, FOR LISTING IT AS BEING ON THE VENETIAN ISLAND SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT TRYING TO FIND A SHORT TERM RENTAL. THEY WERE LISTING IT UNDER THE VENETIAN ISLANDS, AND THEY WERE CAUGHT FINALLY BY CODE COMPLIANCE AND CITED FOR DOING A SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND IT WAS STOPPED. AND I'LL LET HER ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE REALTOR.
BUT ANYWAY AND COMING TO THE, AND ALSO OUR PROBLEM IS NOT JUST WITH THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, IT'S WITH ALL THE VARIANCES, THE LOT SIZE, THESE ARE LARGE VARIANCES AND 18% INCREASE IN LOT SIZE AND ALMOST 17% INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PUT A SEVEN BEDROOM, SIX BATHROOM HOUSE ON A TYPICAL SIZED LOT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER.
WOULD DEFINITELY PUT SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, IS NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYONE ELSE THERE.
THERE WAS A SIMPLE SOLUTION. IF SOME. IT'S JUST A DESIRE TO WANT TO HAVE A HOUSE THAT BIG.
THEN THERE'S NO PROBLEMS. IF ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BUILD WHATEVER HOWEVER, WHENEVER YOU WANT AND THEN COME IN HERE AND SAY, ASK FOR THE. CAN I HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES, PLEASE? IF YOU CAN JUST COME IN HERE, COME IN, BUILD WHATEVER, HOWEVER, WHOEVER YOU WANT.
AND THEN WHEN. AND WE DID NOT TURN THEM IN. WE DID NOT CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THEM ORIGINALLY.
AND IF THERE'S AND IF YOU CAN JUST DO THAT AND THEN THE BOARD RUBBER STAMPS IT.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THE STAFF REPORT.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE STAFF REPORT BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORT CONCLUDED THAT THE APPLICANT THE APPLICATION HAS NOT SATISFIED ARTICLE ONE, SECTION TWO OF THE SPECIAL ACT OR RELATED SPECIAL ACTS.
WE DON'T SEE HOW YOU CANNOT BE OPPOSED TO THE VARIANCES WHEN THEY HAVEN'T MET ANY OF THE CRITERIA.
AND ALSO WE WOULD THEY'RE ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
IF I MAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS ELIANA CRUZ.
WE FILED A 20 PAGE OBJECTION. ALL OF IT. TO THE EXTENT I SUFFER ONE PARAGRAPH.
NOTHING IS PERSONAL. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT'S LEGALLY SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY GRANTING THIS VARIANCE. I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE, I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE THAT IN FEBRUARY, AN APPEALS COURT IN THE SEAGER CASE YOU KNOW, KIND OF TOLD YOU GUYS THAT EVERY FACTOR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE A VARIANCE, EVERY FACTOR NEEDS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A FACTUAL SUPPORT, RIGHT.
FOR EXAMPLE, SPECIAL CONDITIONS. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? DOES IT MATCH THE PROPERTY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALL OF THOSE EIGHT FACTORS.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS SELF-CREATED IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND LIKE THE SETBACK THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS A SELF-CREATED CONDITION. IF THEY GO TO YOU, YOU GUYS, IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS, THEN YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE APPEALED AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT FACTUAL INFORMATION IN SOMETHING LIKE THE STAFF DRAFT ORDER THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST NIGHT TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS.
YOU JUST HEARD SOME SHOCKING TESTIMONY. LET'S ALL AGREE.
RIGHT. IT WAS SHOCKING. SHOCKING TO US. WE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THAT.
THAT WAS I MEAN, I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT IN SHOCK.
JUST THE NUMBER OF COMPLETE FABRICATIONS. I WORK FULL TIME.
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SO I OBJECT TO ALL OF THAT TESTIMONY, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT CREDENCE BY ADDRESSING ANY OF THE POINTS IT'S FABRICATED.I WILL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH. IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS.
THESE PEOPLE CAME IN, IN IN MAY OF 2022. ANOTHER MINUTE, ENOUGH? MAY I HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES, PLEASE? THEY CAME IN IN MAY OF 2022.
I'M TELLING YOU THIS BECAUSE THIS IS FOR YOUR BENEFIT, RIGHT? I'M AN ACTUAL WITNESS AND I CAN HELP YOU SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THAT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THE PAPERS THAT YOU'RE BEING GIVEN.
WE SAW IN MAY OF 2022 THE HOUSE WAS PURCHASED BY JULY THEY HAD ALREADY KNOCKED IT DOWN.
I REMEMBER TELLING MY HUSBAND BECAUSE BY THE WAY, THIS IS AT MY KITCHEN WINDOW.
AND WE WERE SHOCKED, GUTTED IT. THEY GUTTED IT.
SO WE WE GOT TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THERE.
AND GUESS WHAT? NONE OF YOUR INSPECTORS HAD THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING INSIDE ANY OF THOSE WALLS.
THE PLUMBING, THE ELECTRICAL. WHO KNOWS WHAT'S REALLY IN THERE, RIGHT? AND IS THAT BAD FOR ME? OF COURSE. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, CATCHES FIRE NOW THE SETBACKS ARE SO CLOSE THAT HOUSE IS RIGHT UP ON MY HOUSE.
SO IF IT CATCHES FIRE, MY HOUSE CATCHES FIRE.
ALL RIGHT. SAME THING WITH PLUMBING. WE DON'T KNOW IN A REGULAR BUILDING SITUATION.
RIGHT. YOU HAVE AN INSPECTOR ROUTINELY COMING IN.
LET ME SEE HOW THE PROGRESS IS GOING. OH, THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS NOT GOOD.
NONE OF THAT HAPPENED. NOW WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THEIR WORD.
BE VERY CAREFUL TAKING THEIR WORD FOR THINGS, YOU KNOW? HAVE YOU GONE IN, RIPPED OPEN THE WALLS AND SEE WHAT THEY DID? WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR US.
AND NOW, AS FAR AS HARDCORE REAL EVIDENTIAL HARM THAT HAS BEEN CAUSED SINCE THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT, I THINK IT WAS COMPLETED LIKE BEFORE JANUARY OF 2023.
FLOODING. NOW I'M GOING TO WORK. I HAVE TO PUT MY FEET IN TWO INCHES OF WATER FOR TWO DAYS BECAUSE MY HOUSE, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE MY OTHER NEIGHBOR, NOT THESE FOLKS.
WELL, THEY'RE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. MY PROPERTY.
IT JUST STAYS FLOODED FOR TWO DAYS, WHEREAS EVERYBODY ELSE IS DRY.
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY BUILT THAT STUFF. NOW, WE'VE BEEN AT THE HOUSE 22 YEARS BEFORE THEY MOVED IN.
WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE NEIGHBORS. YOU WANT AFFIDAVITS? ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS LIKE US. WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM FOR TWO DECADES UNTIL THEY CAME HERE.
ANYWAY, WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS VARIANCE. IT'S LEGALLY INSUFFICIENT.
THERE'S NOT FACTS. THEY GAVE YOU NO REASON. THE ONLY REASON I GAVE YOU WAS.
WE GOT THE POINT. THANK YOU. PLEASE REFER, PLEASE REFER TO OUR OBJECTION.
AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE CAN HELP YOU GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO DO AN INFORMED DECISION, PLEASE LET US KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION.
ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD GET A COPY OF OUR OBJECTION? BECAUSE WE BROUGHT COPIES. IF NOT WE HAVE THEM. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, CAN WE GIVE THEM TO YOU? YOU NEED. IT COST US MONEY.
WE JUST COPIES OF THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT THIS MORNING.
NO NO NO NO. OUR WRITTEN OBJECTION. OBJECTION.
OH, IT'S IN THE FILE. SO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SEE IT AND BUT IT'S NOT IN THERE.
MAY WE MAY WE GIVE IT OUT BECAUSE WE MADE COPIES FOR ALL OF YOU.
YES. THANK YOU. THE OTHER EMAIL THAT WAS HANDED OUT THIS MORNING WAS ONE THAT STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE RECORD. YEAH. GIVE IT TO THEM FIRST AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY LEFT.
ARE WE GOING TO READ THIS? THEN WE'RE GOING TO READ THIS.
IS ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT ON 3010 ALTON ROAD.
IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? ON ZOOM? THERE ARE NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM.
OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN TO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
JUST A PROCEDURAL. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DECIDING ON THE CONTINUANCE.
CORRECT? YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANY OF THAT ONE.
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ONE MORE THING. PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION IS CLOSED.SORRY. YEAH. ALSO A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I GUESS NOW IT'S PROCEDURAL.
WHEN AN APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL AS IS THE CASE HERE TODAY.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO WE LISTEN TO EVERYBODY? YOU AREN'T BOUND BY FORMAL RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, STRICT APPEAL WHERE IT WOULD NORMALLY BE HANDLED SOLELY BY COUNSEL.
SO THE BOARD CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM BOTH THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES AND THE COUNSEL OR TO LIMIT OR. SO THANK YOU. NO. MAY I ASK A QUESTION.
SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY HEAR THIS MATTER, CAN WE INSTRUCT THE WITNESSES OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO STICK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AND NOT ALL THE ANCILLARY STUFF AND TO STICK TO THEIR TIME LIMITS? THANK YOU. YES. THROUGH THE CHAIR, YOU WOULD ASK TO LIMIT THE TESTIMONY TO THE RELEVANT FACTS ON THE APPLICATION AND THE GROUNDS FOR THE VARIANCE THAT ARE THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING SOUGHT.
SO YES, IT CAN BE NARROWED IF AND WHEN WE DO GET TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE.
AND IF I CAN CHIME IN IF POSSIBLE, WE'RE CLOSED TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. SO THE BASIS FOR THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND IT BEING A PRECONDITION TO ZONING VARIANCES, CAN THE LAWYERS HERE EXPLAIN TO US HOW THAT FITS INTO MAKING A DECISION LIKE THIS? LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE NO HARDSHIP CRITERIA, SHOULD IT JUST BE REJECTED OUT OF HAND IF THEY'RE NOT MET? I MEAN, I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEGALLY IS NECESSARY FOR US TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS.
SO, SO JUST FOR OUR, FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION, WE JUST PUT THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA IN GENERAL, WE DIDN'T GO INDIVIDUALLY ONE BY ONE UNTIL WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE ENTIRE APPLICATION MEETS THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA THAT THE HARDSHIP THAT THE VARIANCE IS THE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERN, WHICH WE FEEL IS NOT MET WITH ONE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE FOR, WE WILL NOT CHANGE THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO ONCE WE FEEL THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE, WE MAY CHANGE THAT AND INDICATE THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.
BUT AT THIS POINT IT DOES NOT. OKAY. BUT IF ON ONE CRITERIA, FOR EXAMPLE, IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH HARDSHIP, YOU WOULD SAY WE SHOULD REJECT IT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO COMPLY WITH HARDSHIP IN ORDER TO BE EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPROVE.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IN SOME SITUATIONS, WE THINK IT MIGHT MEET A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY, THAT WE MAY RECOMMEND THAT IT BE APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT MEET THE FULL. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. NAGLER. I THINK LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED, LIKE, HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS? CAN WE DO ONLY ONE MORE? HOW LONG DOES THIS GO ON? SO WE'RE NOW A MONTH LATER, WE'RE NOW BEING ASKED TO CONTINUE IT AGAIN WITH NO CERTAINTY, INCLUDING WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO BE THAT EVEN IF STAFF COMES TO SOME CONCLUSION, IT STILL SITS IN THE HANDS OF THE APPLICANT TO SEE IF THEY'RE, DECIDE THAT THEY'RE READY OR NOT. THEY JUST RETAIN NEW COUNSEL, WHICH IN THEORY COULD SET THINGS BACK A LITTLE BIT.
SO SORT OF THE SAME QUESTION AS LAST TIME, WHICH IS WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS? AND HOW MANY MORE TIMES DO WE CONTINUE THIS? AND IS THERE AN END TO THIS THAT WE CAN FORESEE REASONABLY? SO IT'S ULTIMATELY THE DECISION IS UP TO THE BOARD, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE CHANGES, I HOPE, I HOPE THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT. THE ALTERNATIVE IS WE JUST RECOMMEND DENIAL OF SOME OF THE VARIANCES.
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BUT WE THINK WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY AND ADDRESSES THE STAFF'S CONCERNS, ADDRESSES THE APPLICANT'S NEEDS AND ULTIMATELY RESOLVES THE ISSUES RELATED TO FLOODING THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT.SO THAT'S, OUR GOAL. BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
I MEAN, THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO JUST DENY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I AGREE WITH MR. NAGLER. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT IT'S GOT TO COME TO SOME SORT OF ENDING SOON BECAUSE THIS IS RIDICULOUS. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE FOR 3010 ALTON ROAD.
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE JUNE 10TH MEETING. DO I HAVE A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CONTINUANCE PASSES.
NEXT IS OUR NEW APPLICATION. ZBA 26-0199 6300 ALLISON ROAD.
[5. ZBA26-0199, 6300 ALLISON ROAD]
THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING VARIANCES TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF A WALL FENCE ON THE SIDE YARD FACING THE STREET AND REAR YARD, AND TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED REAR YARD AND SIDE FACING THE STREET SETBACK AND TO REDUCE THE REAR, THE REQUIRED PERMEABLE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN THE REAR YARD IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING ON A LOT WITH AN EXISTING TWO STORY HOME.OKAY. ANY DISCLOSURES? OH. NO. OKAY. NO DISCLOSURES.
THE PROPERTY IS THE SOUTHERNMOST HOME ON ALLISON ISLAND, AND IT HAS A SIDE FACING THE STREET DIRECTLY ON 63RD STREET, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, 63RD STREET IS A MAJOR ROADWAY.
IT'S THE ACCESS TO INDIAN CREEK DRIVE. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, A LOT OF NOISE.
THAT CAUSES THERE TO BE VIEWS INTO THEIR BACKYARD.
SO THEY HAVE A HIGH RISE ACROSS THE STREET. AND SO THAT LIMITS THEIR PRIVACY.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING VARIANCES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE PRIVACY OF THEIR REAR YARD, GIVEN THE SITE CONSTRAINTS GIVEN THE THE SITUATION THEY HAVE WITH THE TRAFFIC ON THE SOUTH AND 63RD STREET AND THE CONDOMINIUMS EVEN FURTHER SOUTH OF 63RD STREET, WHICH DOES CREATE A HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT THAT LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING A COUPLE VARIANCES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THAT SITUATION.
THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT THE WALL THAT THEY HAVE TO BE TALLER.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE WALL IS WITHIN THE SIDE FACING THE STREET.
THE NEXT VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR A SIDE YARD SETBACK REDUCTION FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD A TRELLIS STRUCTURE IN THE REAR YARD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PRIVACY COMING FROM ABOVE, FROM THE BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH, AND ALSO TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL NOISE BARRIER FOR THE TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM 63RD STREET.
SINCE IT'S A WATERFRONT LOT, THE SETBACK FOR US FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IS QUITE LARGE.
THIS IS A VERY LONG LOT RELATIVELY NARROW LOT, BUT IT IS A LONG LOT.
IT'S 16.2FT, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT TO TEN FEET.
RELATED TO THAT IS A VARIANCE OF THE REAR YARD OPEN SPACE.
SO THIS YARD ALREADY HAS A NON-CONFORMING PAVED AREA IN THE REAR YARD.
THE HOME PREDATES ANY OF OUR CURRENT PAVEMENT STANDARDS.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THEIR POOL IS LOCATED BELOW THE ADJUSTED GRADE.
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WHEREAS IN TODAY'S CODE, IF YOUR POOL WAS LOCATED ABOVE ADJUSTED GRADE, ONLY HALF OF THE POOL WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THE PAVED AREA.AND SO STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THESE VARIANCES.
THEY ARE THE MINIMAL NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME ADDITIONAL PRIVACY IN THEIR REAR YARD, THAT IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA. WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER LOTS THAT ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION.
AND SO THERE'S, NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS EXPECTED FROM THIS.
AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCES. ALL RIGHT.
THANKS. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. OKAY.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION FIRST. WITH THIS IF I WANT TO CHANGE THE PAGES, I JUST.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK THROUGH THERE. YEAH. I'M NOT SEEING IT CHANGE THOUGH.
WOULD IT CHANGE NOW? MAYBE ON THE. MAYBE TRY IT ON THE LAPTOP THE IT SHOULD TO WORK.
THE FORWARD AND BACK ARROWS. WHICH ONE? I'M USED TO USING A MAC.
OH THE SPACEBAR SHOULD WORK. LET ME SEE. I THINK I NEED A LITTLE HELP.
I'M SORRY. I WOULD HELP YOU IF I KNEW HOW. OKAY.
IT IS ON THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO START.
ALL RIGHT. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ADRIENNE PARDO.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY HUSBAND, STEPHEN PARDO, AND OUR ARCHITECT, ADRIAN HEID WITH BASED ARCHITECTS IS ON ZOOM BECAUSE HE HAD TO ATTEND A CONFERENCE.
SO WE ARE THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AND WE HAD MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY IN 2014.
AND SO OKAY, SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, IT'S ON ALLISON ISLAND.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON THE CONTEXT LOCATION.
SO WE HAVE THE 63RD STREET BRIDGE IS TO THE EAST OF US.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT 63RD STREET BRIDGE.
SO IT'S GOTTEN QUITE NOISY IN THE BACKYARD. AND ALSO WE'VE HAD MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. I MEAN THERE'S NO SPECIFIC CONDITIONS FOR THIS VARIANCE.
LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS FOR ME NOW. OKAY. NO IT'S NOT GOING TO THE NEXT ONE.
CAN ANYBODY ELSE DO IT. OH YEAH. OKAY. HERE'S A CLOSER UP PICTURE OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO DO ANYTHING TO THE HOUSE ITSELF.
WE JUST WANT TO DO THE. OKAY. THESE ARE YOU CAN SEE THE WALL HERE.
SO WE GOT RID OF THAT. WE'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THESE HEDGES AND WE KEEP ADDING MORE HEDGES.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, SOMETIMES THEY DIE. YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S THE BACKYARD WHERE WE PUT IN SOME MORE HEDGES.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL THREE FEET ON THE WALL.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE HERE ON THE ON THE WHATEVER IT'S CALLED ANYWAYS, IN THE CENTER.
OKAY, THERE'S ALSO A PICTURE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE BACKYARD WITH THE POOL.
AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF IT, YOU CAN SEE AQUA ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I THINK WHAT ALSO HAPPENS IS I THINK THE THE NOISE FROM AQUA MIGHT ALSO ECHO OFF OF THE TALL BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM LOOKING DOWN ON THE HOUSE AND THE BACKYARD. AND ALSO, THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE ROAD ON 63RD STREET.
BUT EVERY TIME A CAR OR A TRUCK GOES OVER THE ROAD IN THAT AREA, IT MAKES A VERY LOUD NOISE.
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AND THE BIGGER THE TRUCKS ARE, THE LOUDER THE NOISE IS.SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THE BACKYARD, YOU HEAR THAT.
YOU REALLY HEAR THAT TRAFFIC GOING OVER IT. AS MY HUSBAND AND I WERE DISCUSSING THIS CASE, I MENTIONED TO HIM ABOUT THAT NOISE AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BUT MY POINT OF BRINGING IT UP IS THAT IT ADDS TO THIS NOISE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING.
AND THE MORE I'M NOT EVEN CHANGING THIS AND IT'S, AND IT'S MOVING ALONG.
OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, I BELIEVE MIGHT BE OKAY.
ANYWAYS, NOW I CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. STILL DOESN'T WANT TO WORK FOR ME.
OKAY. HERE. THIS IS JUST A PICTURE, A SITE PLAN OF THE HOUSE.
YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT OF IT. THE LENGTH OF THE HOUSE IS 215FT.
SO IT MAKES IT FOR A VERY LONG LOT, WHICH IS AFFECTING SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THE VARIANCES.
WHAT MAKES THIS PROPERTY UNIQUE WITH REGARDS TO THESE VARIANCES IS WE'VE GOT BECAUSE WE'RE ON 63RD STREET, WE HAVE A LARGER SETBACK. AND THEN IN THE REAR BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE WATER YOU HAVE A LARGER SETBACK.
YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE IN THE CENTER IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT THE PERGOLA.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS PERGOLA, IT'S AN OPEN AIR PERGOLA.
WELL, THE BACK OF IT WILL BE A WALL, BUT THE OTHER SIDES ARE OPEN AIR.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL GIVE US MORE MORE OF A PROTECTION WITH THE NOISE AND THE SECURITY AS WELL AS PRIVACY. SO I HAVE A LOT MORE I CAN SAY ABOUT THIS.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE. I DON'T SEE THE ARCHITECT ON.
OH, HE TOLD ME HE WAS ON. IT'S ADRIAN HEID, YOU SAID.
YES. ADRIAN HEID. YEAH. ADRIAN IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
HE'S SAYING HE'S THERE. YES. I'M HERE. ADRIAN, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANK YOU. JUST. JUST SO HE'S AVAILABLE.
YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL US OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON? AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM WITH YOU.
I THINK YOU SHOULD MOVE ON, I THINK. ADRIENNE DID A GREAT JOB AT EXPLAINING EVERYTHING.
SO I THINK WE. YEAH, WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY ONLINE? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR HAND.
YES. SO THE SECURITY CONCERN IS IF YOU'RE WALKING ALONG THE SIDEWALK, THE WALL IS LOW ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN HOP THAT YOU COULD CLIMB OVER THE WALL VERY EASILY. ARE THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK? OH, YEAH. YOU GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK TO THE BEACH AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING, YOU KNOW, DOING THE WHOLE PEDESTRIAN THING NOW.
SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SURE. HI. I AGREE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING UP THE PROPERTY AND I PASSED IT ALL THE TIME. YOU DO HAVE THE PROPERTY FOR SALE NOW. YES. AND I'M CURIOUS IF THAT IF YOU GET THIS APPROVED, WHICH I THINK ANYONE WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE.
SO I'M NOT OBJECTING THE APPROVAL, BUT WHAT'S THE INTENTION WITH THE SALE.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO SELL IT OR DO. YEAH. SO SO WE HAVE THREE GROWN CHILDREN.
SO MY HUSBAND AND I, WE MOVED INTO A CONDO AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE WITH SELLING IT WHERE EVERYBODY COMES TO THE HOUSE.
AND SO OUR REALTORS, OUR REALTOR, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL REALTORS HAVE TOLD US THAT WHEN THEY COME TO THE PROPERTY, THEY LOVE THE HOUSE, BUT WHEN THEY GO IN THE BACKYARD AREA, IT'S JUST THEY SAY IT'S JUST TOO NOISY.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE REASONS THAT I'VE JUST SAID AS WELL THAT WE HAD LIVED WITH.
SO THIS HAS BECOME A BIG ISSUE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO.
YEAH. ARE THERE SOME TYPE OF SOUNDPROOFING MATERIAL OR DESIGN IN THAT FENCING?
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BECAUSE JUST FROM VISUALLY IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE SPACES IN BETWEEN AND MAY NOT DO THAT GREAT AT STOPPING THE SOUND.SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT WILL HELP IT YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GO HIGHER, THE HIGHER YOU COULD GO, THE BETTER THE SOUNDPROOFING WOULD BE BUT THIS IS THE LIMIT THAT WE CAN REACH.
BUT I MEAN LIKE, IS THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK SOLID THE FENCE.
IS THAT JUST FOR ESTHETICS? JUST. NO, NO, IT WILL HELP WITH SOUNDPROOFING AS WELL.
OKAY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT ESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
OKAY. MR. NAGLER. YEAH, I MEAN, I UNFORTUNATELY DRIVE ON 63RD STREET ALL THE TIME AND I HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR THE SITUATION. I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT REALLY DOES A WHOLE LOT FOR SOUNDPROOFING OR SECURITY BECAUSE ALMOST SEEMS LIKE EASIER.
BUT ANYWAY, I CERTAINLY HAVE. I CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT I SAW SOMETHING IN THE PACKET ABOUT AND I THINK IT'S IN REGARD TO THE NON-CONFORMING PAVED AREA.
IS THAT LEGAL NON-CONFORMING. YES. THEY HAD PERMITS FOR THEIR POOL AND FOR THAT DECK.
THAT WAS NOT A REGULATION IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THAT THIS HOME WAS BUILT.
THE CODE ALSO PROVIDES THAT IF THE POOL IS RAISED TO THE FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE, WHICH IS AN OLDER HOME THAT PREDATES THOSE RAISING THE YARD REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT 50% OF THE WATER AREA OF THE POOL COULD BE DISCOUNTED FROM THE PERVIOUS OPEN SPACE.
AND SO THEY PREDATE ALL THAT. SO THEY HAVE MORE PAVEMENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY THE CODE.
BUT IT'S LEGAL. IT'S LEGAL. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.
BECAUSE THAT'S FOR ME, THAT'S ALWAYS SORT OF A THING FOR ME.
I FEEL LIKE IN THIS CITY, WE NEED WATER TO BE ABLE TO GO AWAY IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND THAT ALWAYS CONCERNS ME. BUT IF IT'S ALREADY LEGAL NONCONFORMING. I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THAT PARTICULAR VARIANCE, IF WE COULD GO TO PAGE 16.
YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR BACKYARD HAS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, AND THEY ONLY COUNT THOUGH THAT FIRST PORTION OF IT IN THE BACK, BUT YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE BACKYARD. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE BACK THERE AS WELL. THAT'S A GOOD CLARITY.
SO THE REAR YARD IS BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THE LOT.
THE REAR YARD IS. 32, 32FT. 32FT. BUT THEY DO HAVE FUNCTIONAL REAR YARD THAT GOES BEYOND THE 32FT. WE PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER 40FT THAT GOES BEHIND THAT OR 38.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JANET, NOTHING. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
I HAVE A SUGGESTION, BUT I CAN TELL I KNOW STEPHEN, SO I CAN TELL HIM AFTER.
[LAUGHTER] OKAY, SO I HAVE NO QUESTION. I BIKE BACK BY YOUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR HARDSHIP. THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU APPROVE IT. DO I HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT? THAT I KNOW ONE OF THE APPLICANTS? I'M SORRY, BUT, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING? NOT UNLESS YOU HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. NO I DID NOT. I HAD NO IDEA HE WAS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN OTHER THAN THIS PENDING APPLICATION THAT'S FINE.
IS THERE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCES.
THE TWO VARIANCES. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. QUESTION. I HAVE FIVE VARIANCES AND I THINK THE MOTION WAS TWO.
I'LL CORRECT THAT. ARE THERE FIVE? YES THERE ARE FIVE.
I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. HAVE A GOOD DAY.
THANKS YOU, TOO. DO WE HAVE MODIFICATIONS TO PREVIOUSLY BOARD ORDERS.
ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS IN PROGRESS REPORTS? NO DISCUSSION ITEMS OR PROGRESS REPORTS.
AND THE FUTURE MEETING DATE IS NOW MOVED TO JUNE 10TH.
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: June 5, 2026]
JUNE 10TH. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT.DO WE HAVE A MOTION I GUESS TO ADJOURN? ADJOURN.
MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.
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YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANKS. GREAT JOB.THANKS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.