4321. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO OUR MAY
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12TH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING. MY NAME IS LINDSEY LOVELL.[CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES]
AND THEN I'LL GIVE A LITTLE OUTLINE OF THE SEQUENCE THAT I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE MEETING.THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD, PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS (888) 475-4499, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS (817) 483-4748 8 POUND, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 81748347488. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF USING ZOOM OR DIAL STAR NINE. IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ATTORNEY OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT OR OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.
YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE.
PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR ON EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY.
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VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE.BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. SO IF YOU WILL BE TESTIFYING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL BE GIVING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO RUN THROUGH QUICKLY, JUST AN OUTLINE OF HOW I'D LIKE TO PROCEED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A REFRESHER FOR THE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE.
AND AS A REFRESHER, AS, AS NEW INFORMATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEW JOINING US.
IT'S FOR STAFF TO PRESENT THE ITEM AND MAKE DIRECT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN FOR BOARD, FOR THE BOARDS, TO BOARD MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF, ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS STAFF.
THEN WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
SOUND GOOD? OKAY. SO LET'S SEE HERE. WE'VE GOT OUR WE'RE GOING TO
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SKIP THE MINUTES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE MINUTES TO THE NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT TO NEXT MONTH AND START WITH OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS THE 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE APPLICATION.OKAY, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH 600 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
SO THE FIRST ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS HPV 25-0656.
THIS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE MINUTES TO NEXT MONTH.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE MINUTES TO NEXT MONTH. SORRY.
SO THE FIRST ACTION ITEM IS HPV 25-0656 FOR 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
[2. HPB25-0656, 1600 WASHINGTON AVENUE, 425 16th STREET AND1601 DREXEL AVENUE.]
THIS INCLUDES ALSO 1601 DREXEL AVENUE AND FOR 25 16TH STREET.THE STRUCTURES PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION ARE THE ONE STORY NONCONTRIBUTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT 600 WASHINGTON AVENUE, CONSTRUCTED IN 1952, AND THE TWO STORY CONTRIBUTING LAUREL APARTMENTS AT 425 16TH STREET, CONSTRUCTED IN 1938 AND DESIGNED BY HENRY HOHAUSER IN THE STREAMLINE MODERNE STYLE.
THE APARTMENTS ARE CHARACTERIZED BY RECESSED PORTHOLE WINDOWS ROUND THE CORNER, EYEBROWS AND HORIZONTAL FLUTING BETWEEN WINDOWS. THE EXISTING FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE AT 1601 DREXEL AVENUE WAS DESIGNED BY THE SAME ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT, RICHARD NORTON, AND CONSTRUCTED IN 1910 THAT WILL BE RETAINED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE
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NEW DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING PARKING ALONG WITH LOADING AND SERVICING FOR THIS PROJECT.THIS THIS PROJECT IS CONTINGENT UPON THE PASSING OF THE PENDING CITY THREE URBAN CORE RESIDENTIAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. NOW, AT THE OCTOBER 21ST 25 MEETING, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME THE BOARD REVIEWED THE PRIOR DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT THE NEED FOR APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WAS RECOGNIZED BY STAFF AND THE BOARD. AS WELL AS THE NEED TO INCORPORATE REVISED ARTICULATION INTO THE SOUTHERN FACADE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
THE PRIOR DESIGN WAS OVERLY MONOTONOUS WITH REPETITIVE FLOOR PLANS AT EACH LEVEL.
AS WELL AS THE BOARD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT THE THE LOADING AREA AND ACCESS FROM 16TH STREET IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND MINIMIZING THE WIDTH OF THAT OPENING. AND FOURTH, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE RENDERINGS NOT NOT ALIGNING WITH THE WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLANS.
STAFF BELIEVES THAT THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL. IN TERMS OF THE RECOGNIZING LAUREL APARTMENTS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ETCH THE FACADE OF THE TWO STORY BUILDING INTO THE LOBBY GLAZING OF THE AT THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS METHOD OF, OF RECALLING THAT THAT STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS INDICATED AS STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT AND WHY THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THAT STRUCTURE. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE ARTICULATION OF THE SOUTH SOUTHERN FACADE HAS BEEN FURTHER DEVELOPED, AND WE DO BELIEVE IT RESPECTS THE DESIGN INTEGRITY OF THE ARCHITECT.
AND WE CANNOT, IN RESPONDING TO THE DESIGN CONCERNS OF STAFF AND THE BOARD REGARDING THE, THE SERVICE ALLEY, THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THE WIDTH OF THAT AND PROVIDED LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT HAS ADDRESSED BOTH STAFF'S CONCERNS AND THE BOARD'S CONCERNS REGARDING THAT LANDSCAPING. LASTLY, REGARDING THE THE WAIVER, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM THE ELDERS, WHICH REQUIRES THE GROUND FLOOR OF NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE LOCATED.
NO, NO LOWER THAN THE FUTURE KIND OF ROAD ELEVATION.
NOW, THIS WAIVER IS REQUESTED BECAUSE THE EXISTING FIVE STORY BUILDING TO THE WEST IS PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT SITE, AND THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THAT BE ELEVATED UNLESS A WAIVER IS GRANTED.
OF COURSE, THAT BUILDING WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED. SO THEY CAN'T JUST ELEVATE THAT STRUCTURE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR FOR A WAIVER OF THIS SECTION OF CODE. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE OVERALL DESIGN. WE THINK THEY'VE MADE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.
THIS IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER TOWER I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF MID-RISE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. KASDAN FOR THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, MR. BLUSH. IF YOU PUT UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
NESSEN KASDAN AND CECILIA TORRES TOLEDO OF ACKERMAN, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT FOR 20 LINCOLN ROAD DEVELOPMENT, LLC. WITH ME. WITH US HERE THIS MORNING AS WELL, IS THE PRINCIPAL OF THAT COMPANY THAT OWNS THAT BLOCK AND HAS BEEN THE STEWARD OF THAT BLOCK FOR OVER 30 YEARS. AMBASSADOR PAUL CEJAS, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF MIAMI BEACH AS WELL AND THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD, JOSE GOMEZ, IS HERE WITH US TODAY AS WELL ON THIS PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND ANY TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I DO WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY REMIND YOU OF THE THEORY BEHIND THIS URBAN CORE ZONING.
AND SO THIS IS ABOUT REVIVING AND PROVIDING HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN OF MIAMI BEACH.
YOU SEE THESE OLD IMAGES. THIS IS THE 420 BUILDING, WHICH IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, AMBASSADOR CEJAS HAS, HAS, HAS CAREFULLY PRESERVED AND RESTORED OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD.
YOU LOOK AT THE 407 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING ACROSS FROM 420, WELL OVER 150FT.
THE LOEWS HOTEL, JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS OVER ON COLLINS AVENUE, OVER 200FT.
AND OF COURSE, THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, WHICH IS IN CONSTRUCTION ALMOST 200FT.
SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER ONE, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WELL, EVEN BEFORE THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS.
THE POPULATION OF MIAMI BEACH HAS DECLINED BY ALMOST TEN 000 PEOPLE.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON MIAMI BEACH.
THERE ARE NO PLACES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK ON MIAMI BEACH TO LIVE OR INADEQUATE PLACES FOR THAT.
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MIAMI BEACH. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS WILL PROVIDE THROUGH THIS NEW OVERLAY ZONING, WHICH, BY THE WAY, PROHIBITS SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL ONLY.AND THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THIS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS TO PROVIDE HOUSING IN THE URBAN CORE CENTER WHERE THERE ARE JOBS AND HOUSING IS NEEDED. THE PROJECT AND I'LL BRING UP JOSE GOMEZ BRIEFLY TO GO THROUGH THIS.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS BOARD FOR ITS VERY HELPFUL INPUT IN IN WORKING WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO MAKE IT THE BEST PROJECT THAT IT CAN BE.
AND THERE WERE THREE ELEMENTS IN PARTICULAR, MOST RECENTLY THAT THE BOARD, THE LAST TIME WE CAME BEFORE US, YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT ONE, WAS THE ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION OF THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING'S MASSING, MASSING ALONG 16TH STREET. AND YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT WAS SUCCESSFULLY DONE.
TWO AN APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION AND HOMAGE TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING DEMOLISHED.
AND IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, PARTICULARLY, I THINK, MITCH NOVAK'S CONTRIBUTION IN COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS INNOVATIVE AND VERY, A VERY WORTHY RECOGNITION OF THAT. AND THIRD WAS THE TREATMENT OF THE ALLEY ALONG 16TH STREET TO ENSURE AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. BRING JOSE GOMES UP.
HE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THESE DESIGN MODIFICATIONS AND THEN WE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. JOSE GOMEZ BEILINSON GOMEZ ARCHITECTS.
WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT, WORKING WITH TAYLOR ENRIQUE NORTON.
ENRIQUE WAS THE ARCHITECT FOR THE GARAGE ADJACENT TO THE NEW BUILDING.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR THE BUILDING WAS VERY CLEAN SORT OF TRADITIONALLY NORTON BUILDING. HOWEVER IT, IT WAS FELT THAT IT LACKED ARTICULATION. ONE OF THE OF MANY STUDIES THAT ENRIQUE PREPARE.
I THINK HE CAME UP WITH THIS VERY ORGANIZED RHYTHM WITH THE BALCONIES THAT MIGHT, IT MIGHT SEEM AT FIRST A RANDOM ATTEMPT TO ARTICULATE THE FACADE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A PATTERN TO IT.
THERE IS JUST LIKE A FABRIC PATTERN THAT YOU'VE SEEN THE TOP LEVELS FOLLOW A CERTAIN PATTERN.
THEN IT KIND OF REPEATS ITSELF IN SEVERAL LEVELS OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE BALCONIES PROJECT OUT IN AND OUT. SO YOU HAVE THIS PLAY OF LIGHT AND SHADOWS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REFLECTING ON THE BUILDING. THE PODIUM IS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED TO MEET THE FEMA REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE AT THE GROUND LEVEL, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THAT. SO THE THE BASIC CONCEPT OF THE BUILDING.
AS ENRICO LOOKED AT IT, HE TOOK THE MASSING, SLICED IT, SHIFT IT TO CREATE THE THE, THE, THE CIRCULATION, THE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND BASICALLY BROKE OR SUBTRACTED A PIECE IN ORDER TO ALLOW CIRCULATION THAT I'LL EXPLAIN IT GOES THROUGH DREXEL AND COMES OUT THE ALLEY.
SO BASICALLY THAT IS THE THE PORTION THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OR SUBTRACTED FROM THE MASSING.
AND THEN YOU SEE WHERE HE TOOK THE FACADE AND START PLAYING WITH THAT VERY, VERY ORGANIZED PLAY OF THE BALCONIES HERE. STARTING TO SEE FROM 16TH LOOKING EAST NORTHEAST, YOU CAN START SEEING THE FACADE, THE PLAY OF THE. THAT HAPPENS WHEN HE SHIFTS THE BALCONY.
PUSHES IN AND IN AND OUT. AND THAT GIVES YOU THAT SORT OF A FABRIC ON THE SOUTH FACADE.
THIS YEAR IS AN HOMAGE TO THE HISTORIC PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
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AND THEN THE ELEVATION, THE FACADE OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING IS DELINEATED ON THE GLASS.AND WE HAVE A PRODUCT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN BEFORE A PASS.
CAN SOMEONE PASS THIS ONE? SO THERE IS A A NEW PRODUCT BY VARICON WHERE THE INNER LAYER IS ACTUALLY EDGED WITH WHICHEVER COLOR WE WANT, WHICHEVER PATTERN AND THAT INNER LAYER.
IT'S JUST SIMILAR. IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT SIMILAR TO A BUILDING NEAR HERE ON 17TH AND MICHIGAN, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE CORNER. IT'S A WHITE BUILDING THAT HAS THAT WHITE INNER LAYER.
BUT NOW THE, THAT INNER LAYER IS ACTUALLY A MUCH MORE CONTEMPORARY PRODUCT THAT WILL NEVER FADE.
THIS YEAR THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE, THE GATE AS YOU EXIT.
IT'S A VERY MINIMAL GATE. AND WHAT AFTER SPEAKING TO ENRIQUE ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT GATE, HE LIKED TO BRING UP THE, THE GATE THAT IS EXISTING, THAT HAS A PATTERN AND THAT WILL INTEGRATE OR HELP LINK THE GARAGE DESIGN WITH THE THE NEW TOWER. THIS YEAR'S ON WASHINGTON AND ON WASHINGTON.
YOU'RE SEEING WHERE HE'S BRINGING SOME OF THE DESIGN THAT YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE IN THE GARAGE.
HE'S PUTTING A SMALL PIECE ON THE WASHINGTON SIDE ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE. THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO WE MISSED QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE PROCEED? YEAH SURE. YES. PAGE NINE OF TEN OF STAFF'S REPORT.
ITS ONCE PROMINENT EAST FACADE HAS LONG BEEN ECLIPSED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RETAIL BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST NOW. OKAY, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY ELEVATION, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT HOHAUSER KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE ECLIPSED EVENTUALLY.
AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT ABOUT THE SECONDARY ELEVATION ALONG 16TH STREET, WHICH I BELIEVE IN ITSELF ACTS AS A PRIMARY ELEVATION IN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE DISREGARDING THIS BUILDING ENTIRELY.
BASED ON THE PERCEIVED WHAT WAS THE PRIMARY ELEVATION THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT GOING TO BE FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME. SURE. SO WE'RE NOT DISREGARDING THE ELEVATION.
I DO THINK THERE'S TWO COMBINED POINTS HERE. AS MR. KASDAN STATED, THIS IS IN THE URBAN CORE AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS, SEPARATE FROM THEIR PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT, THE HEIGHT ALLOWED HERE IS 100FT. SO YOU KNOW, THIS THIS AREA WAS INTENDED TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S DEVELOPED MORE SUBSTANTIALLY IN TERMS OF THE URBAN CORE. SO THAT FACTORS INTO OUR DECISION TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION, AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURAL REPORT THAT FOUND THE DEFICIENCIES IN KEEPING THAT STRUCTURE. SO WE THINK COMBINED THE, THE OPTION TO PROVIDE AN INDICATION OF WHAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY WITH THIS, THIS GLASS HOMAGE TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AND, AND WARRANTED VERSUS JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING ANYTHING THERE. SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOOD FOR THE HISTORY TO SHOW WHAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING NEW CONSTRUCTION TO DEVELOP, TO BE DEVELOPED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE URBAN CORE CONCEPT WAS, WHICH IS THE HIGHER CITY CENTER AREA OF THIS OF THIS PORTION OF LINCOLN ROAD.
LET ME JUST BRIEFLY RESPOND. IS THAT OKAY, MADAM CHAIR? I HAVE ZERO ISSUE WITH THE HEIGHT. NOR DO I NOR IS MY POSITION THE RETENTION OF THE ENTIRE WHOLE HOUSE OR STRUCTURE. BUT AS I ALLUDED TO LAST TIME, WE HEARD THIS IN THIS IN REFERENCED IT.
MY CONCERN IS WHY COULD THE FRONT OR THE SOUTHERN FACADE TO THAT FIRST EYEBROW, FIRST FIVE FEET NOT BE INCORPORATED INTO THE NEW TOWER.
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I THINK THAT IS A REAL HOMAGE TO PRESERVATION.SO I THINK WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A RECONSTRUCTED FACADE.
BUT IF THEY COULD ACTUALLY KEEP THAT STRUCTURE AND MAINTAIN THAT PORTION FOR A CERTAIN DISTANCE, THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A HANDFUL OF COLUMNS AND TIE BEAMS THAT WOULD LIKELY NEED TO BE REPLACED, AS WELL AS THE FOUNDATION OF THE. YEAH. I THINK WE WANT TO SEE LIKE WHAT IS LEFT IN TERMS OF AFTER DEMOLITION IN TERMS OF LIKE A SWISS CHEESE, WHAT IS LEFT IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURE WHEN YOU TAKE OUT, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE DEFICIENT ELEMENTS? AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE ONE LAST THING THIS STRUCTURE HAS HAD SUCH A VARIETY OF APPROVALS OVER THE YEARS FROM THE ORIGINAL, WHICH WAS DEMOLITION BACK IN 2005 WHEN THE BOARD APPROVED THE DEMOLITION FOR A NEW STRUCTURE HERE, WHICH WAS A VERY UNIQUE CANTILEVERED STRUCTURE, I RECALL.
EXACTLY. AND THEN LATER ON THE BOARD APPROVED A SLIGHTLY I THINK IT WAS OR ELEVATED OR THERE WAS RETENTION OF RETENTION AND ROOF STRUCTURE. SO THIS, THIS BUILDING HAS HAD LIKE THE WHOLE RANGE OF POSSIBLE APPROVALS OVER THE LAST NOW, 20 YEARS FOR THIS SITE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? WELL, I JUST WANT TO FOR ANY OF YOU WHO MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, LOOK AT THE THE WEST SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE BETWEEN 22ND STREET AND, AND BETWEEN 22ND AND 23RD, THERE'S THE CAMPANILE BUILDING, WHICH WAS PRESERVED AND A NEW BUILDING WAS BUILT AROUND IT ON TOP OF IT, BEHIND IT AND CONNECTED IT AND PAID HOMAGE TO IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN HERE. MADAM CHAIR, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, IF I CAN ADDRESS THESE COMMENTS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FOR STAFF, RATHER? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT IF THE THE CURRENT PLAN THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DOES NOT GET APPROVED.
SO LET'S SAY WE APPROVE THIS TODAY AND THEN THAT ONE DOES NOT GET APPROVED.
SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR A MODIFICATION.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO SUFFER TO COMPLY WITH.
WELL, THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY JUST A REDUCTION IN MASS OR HEIGHT.
BECAUSE THE, THE CODE NOW IS 100FT. SO IF THEY WERE TO REDUCE IT FROM THE PROPOSED 150 TO 100, IT WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGN. SO WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT BACK. WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE, WE WOULD NOT JUST WANT TO HAVE IT JUST, YOU KNOW, CUT BACK, CUT OFF AT THE 100 FOOT LEVEL.
SO THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO SEE HOW THEY ALLOCATE THE FAR.
IN THE END, IT WOULD BE A LESS LESS MASS ON THE SITE.
SO WE WANT TO SEE HOW IT WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. SO IT WOULD REQUIRE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD. SO THEN THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE CONTINGENT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE NEW PROJECT OR ONCE APPROVED, DEMOLITION TODAY.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW DEMOLITION. THEY COULDN'T COME IN TOMORROW AND THEN DEMOLISH THE BUILDING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GO GO FROM THAT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
OF COURSE, THERE WAS EXTENSIVE ENGINEERING STUDY BY YOSEF HASHEM, WHICH HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE SEVERELY DETERIORATED CONDITION OF THAT BUILDING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ONE PROPOSAL POTENTIALLY WAS TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT BECAUSE ANYTHING YOU DO WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING TO ELEVATE IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
THE BUILDING WOULD CRUMBLE. AND SO AS A, AND AS AN ADDITIONAL PRACTICAL MATTER, I WOULD SAY THIS PROJECT AS IT IS, THE DESIRE IS TO BRING RENTAL HOUSING.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR.
IT'S ONE OF THE TOP OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY'S COMP PLAN.
AND AND WE THINK NOT AS EFFECTIVE. NOW, I'D LIKE, IF I MAY.
JOSE GOMEZ CAN SHOW YOU THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY DEPTH TO THIS.
CAN WE PULL THE PRESENTATION BACK UP THERE? SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, MITCH, TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT, IT'S REALLY NOT JUST A FLAT PIECE OF GLASS. IT'S ACTUALLY THREE DIMENSIONAL.
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IT PROJECTS OUT OF THE BUILDING BY TEN FEET. THAT'S I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD DISTANCE TO PROJECT OUT THE.THE AREA THAT WILL BECOME THE LOBBY. THE MOST IMPORTANT EXPERIENCE.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE FEELING THE MEMORY OF THIS BUILDING.
IT'S GOING TO BE SEEN. IT'S THERE. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S THREE DIMENSIONAL. IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT PIECE OF GLASS.
THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? WELL, JOSE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THAT IMAGE AND IF YOU COULD JUST SUPERIMPOSE WHAT'S EXISTING INTO THAT, IT COULD ALSO IN MY EYES, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY INTERESTING.
AND THAT SPACE WOULD NOT BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
THAT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AS INDICATED ON YOUR PLANS, WHICH IS A MORE CONTEMPORARY APPROACH TO RESPECTING THE HISTORIC BUILDING.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE RESPECTING THE BUILDING.
IT'S GOING TO ALWAYS RESPECT THE HISTORY OF THIS BUILDING.
IT'S ALSO GOING AWAY. IT'S ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL LOBBY, WHICH WE FEEL IS FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, MORE APPROPRIATE. FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU GET UP TO 16TH STREET AND THAT SIDE, YOU'RE GETTING TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN ON WASHINGTON AVENUE, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL. NEESON YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH BOUGAINVILLE APARTMENTS.
9340 COLLINS THAT'S THE KUSHNER PROJECT WHERE THEY'VE INCORPORATED A PIECE OF ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS DESIGNATED IN SURFSIDE INTO ITS ARCHITECTURE, PROMINENTLY FEATURED, IN FACT, IN THEIR ADVERTISING. THEY'RE TOUTING THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THIS HISTORIC COMPONENT AS THEIR MAIN ENTRY.
AND THIS COULD BE VERY SIMILAR. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT AS I DID THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS, INCLUDING BEFORE KUSHNER PURCHASED IT, INCLUDING THE PART PORTION OF THE FACADE THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SITE.
IT IS A VERY LARGE, LARGE SITE. IT'S A LONG SITE.
THE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY THAT ARE BEING BUILT ARE ONLY THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT.
IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN HERE, WHERE WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE FACADE OF A MUCH LARGER RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. IT'S IT'S NOT A HERCULEAN TASK. IN FACT, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT I MEAN, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SITE THAN THE ONE WE WERE WORKING WITH AT 93RD AND COLLINS. VERY DIFFERENT. IF WE HAD THAT KIND OF.
I'M NOT ARGUING THAT. YEAH. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT AND THE INTENT.
THEY EMBRACED THE HISTORIC ELEMENT WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO CLEARLY WANT TO DISCARD IT.
AND IT DOES EXIST TODAY. SO NO, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE A HOMAGE TO IT AS IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD LAST TIME WAS THAT, THAT, THAT IT WAS IT WAS UNDERSTOOD AS TO THE REASONS AND THE NECESSITY OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, AND THAT WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH AN APPROPRIATE HOMAGE.
SO WE WORKED IN THE DIRECTION OF COMING UP WITH THAT.
AND THERE WERE CERTAIN OTHER CONCEPTS WHICH WERE PROPOSED.
AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH THIS CONCEPT. I CAN ONLY SAY THAT IT DOESN'T TO DO ANYTHING ELSE ACTUALLY WOULD ALSO NOT PRACTICALLY WORK, PROBABLY NOT BE AS GREAT AN HOMAGE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE COST ELEMENT WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARY AS WELL.
YOU HAVE A CREATIVE TEAM OF DESIGNERS, ARCHITECTS IT'S, YOU KNOW, CHANGING COLUMNS AND TIE BEAMS. IT'S SPECIALTY WORK, BUT WE'RE, IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE HERE BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, IT'S IT'S A HANDFUL.
WELL. EXCUSE ME. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I APPRECIATE YOUR THE TIME THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.
I HAD TO BE HERE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, I LIVE ON THE BEACH.
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I'VE LIVED ON THE BEACH FOR MANY YEARS. AND THIS BUILDING, AS YOU SEE LINCOLN ROAD HAS HAD SEVERAL TURNOVERS. AND I'VE OWNED THIS BUILDING FOR 30 YEARS AND I LOVE IT.WE RESTORE IT AND WE CONTINUE TO KEEP IT THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY UNDER THE WORST CIRCUMSTANCES.
AS YOU KNOW, LINCOLN ROAD HAS BEEN UP HERE AND IT'S BEEN DOWN HERE AND I HAVE BEEN A SOLID PATRON AND MAINTAINING IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO THAT WE KEEP THAT HISTORICAL BUILDING.
I LOVE THE BEACH. I LIVE HERE, AND I'VE BROUGHT ENRIQUE NORTON NOT JUST HAVING SOMEBODY, BUT SOMEBODY WHO HAD BUILT THE GARAGE AND IT WAS A CLAIM.
IF YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE BEEN TO THAT GARAGE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT GARAGE HAS NO COLUMNS.
IT HAS VERY CLEAR. IT HAS 59 CAMERAS AND IT IS THE CLEANEST GARAGE IN TOWN.
SO I DIDN'T JUST BRING ANYBODY TO TO DO THIS.
AND OF COURSE, JOSE HAS BEEN A FRIEND AND AN INTERNAL ARCHITECT WHO HAS HELPED ME FOR MANY YEARS.
ACTUALLY, MR. BELSON HELPED ME FROM THE BEGINNING TO KEEP THAT BUILDING RESTORED.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THAT LITTLE BUILDING THERE THAT EXISTS IS A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED.
THE PREVIOUS BOARD HAD APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF IT WHEN WE HAD A PLAN FOR THE CANTILEVER THING.
AND OF COURSE IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE. THE COST AND THE WEIGHT COULD NOT SUPPORT THE CANTILEVER BUILDING THAT WE LOVED. ACTUALLY, THEIR DESIGN. NOW, WE LOVE THIS DESIGN.
WE TOLD ENRIQUE AND, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH FAMOUS ARCHITECTS, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A TOUGH FIGHT BECAUSE THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THEIR THING. AND I HAD TO REALLY IMPOSE THAT.
SO I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE EXISTING BUILDING IS DANGEROUS.
AND IF YOU WALK BY IT, YOU COULD SEE IT. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO OPEN IT FOR YOU.
AND YOU WILL BE HORRIFIED TO SEE. AND I KNOW THE HISTORICAL ISSUE.
HOW ABOUT IF WE, INSTEAD OF DOING THE GLASS WE BUILD INSTEAD OF THE OF A GLASS, GIVE YOU THE BUILDING REBUILT THE BUILDING FRONT, WHICH IS NOT, BY THE WAY, NOT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
IF YOU GO BACK, HISTORICALLY, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WAS FACING WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND THEN OVER THE YEARS THEY PUT OTHER BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF IT. BUT ALL YOU SEE HERE OF THIS BUILDING IS THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
SO MY PROPOSAL TO YOU IS NO GLASS. LET'S BUILD THE ACTUAL BUILDING.
AND THAT TO ME. THANK YOU, MR. AMBASSADOR. PAUL HOWES PABLO DOING TELL HIM IS DOING GREAT. GOOD. GOOD KID YOU GOT THERE.
THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN THE STEWARD OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR DECADES.
YOU MAINTAIN EVERYTHING OR YOU HAVE MAINTAINED EVERYTHING EXQUISITELY, WITH EXCEPTION TO THIS
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IMPORTANT STRUCTURE. AND AGAIN, MY STANCE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FACADE ALONG 16TH STREET.MANY CONSIDERED CONSIDER A SECONDARY ELEVATION TO ME.
IT'S IMPORTANT. I ALSO AM STEWARD OF A HOHAUSER BUILDING THAT I'VE ALWAYS CONSIDERED TO BE A SIBLING OF THIS BUILDING. NEESON IS WHERE THAT. THAT'S AT 610 JEFFERSON AVENUE, WHERE THE SECONDARY FACADE IS FACING THE STREET.
AND LIKE YOUR OWN, IT'S EXTRAORDINARY PORTHOLE WINDOWS, BANDING EYEBROWS THE TERRACOTTA ENTRIES.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IS CERTAINLY PIDDLY IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS.
IT'S NOT INSURMOUNTABLE. IT'S IT'S RATHER SIMPLE.
AND WE BEING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE A MAN OF WISDOM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME AROUND AND MEET.
THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY, I'LL GET YOUR SUPPORT BY OFFERING WHAT I JUST OFFERED.
GIVING YOU THE FRONT INSTEAD OF GLASS. THE SAME AS THE BUILDING.
COME ON. JOSE, NO, IT'S NOT NOT. I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SHORING UP AND STABILIZING, STABILIZING BUILDINGS FOR DECADES. SO SO MITCH, I IF YOU RECALL, ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOUR BUILDING A NINTH WE RECONSTRUCTED THE CORE OF ROCK HOUSE.
WE RECONSTRUCTED THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO IT.
WE LINKED IT WITH A VERY CONTEMPORARY PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE.
SADLY, IT'S NOT VERY VISIBLE, BUT IT'S A, I THINK, A BEAUTIFUL JOB.
THIS BUILDING IS IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONDITION.
THIS STRUCTURE TODAY IS IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONDITION EVEN OF THE ROCK HOUSE.
AND WE RECONSTRUCTED THE ROCK HOUSE. I CAN TELL YOU HOW BAD CERTAIN BUILDINGS ARE.
THIS ONE IS ONE OF THE MOST TERRIBLE. WHAT AMBASSADOR PAUL HAS SUGGESTED IS BASICALLY THE SAME ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THE CONTEMPORARY IN GLASS AND REBUILDING TEN FEET BACK, THE THREE SIDES OF THAT BUILDING. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MUCH BETTER STRUCTURE, A MUCH BETTER BUILDING.
I THINK WHAT'S BEING OFFERED IS THE NEXT BEST THING.
BUT I'D LIKE TO BRING ANOTHER THING TO THE TABLE.
IF YOU COULD PUT UP THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSCORE WHAT JOSE IS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS LET'S GET TO THE. THIS IS THE STRUCTURAL REPORT.
THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE CANNOT ENDURE THE ELEVATION PROCESS AND WILL FAIL DURING THE PROCESS, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR IF BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE THAN A 50% VALUE OF THE RENOVATION, THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE IS WEAK ENOUGH TO CRUMBLE UNDER SUCH LOADS DURING THE JACKING PROCESS, DUE TO THE FOOTER BEING ON SHALLOW FOUNDATION.
THIS IS THE STATE OF OF OF THIS BUILDING. IT IS LITERALLY UNDER, ACCORDING TO OUR ENGINEER, NOT ABLE TO BE EVEN KEEPING IT IN A PORTION OF IT IN PLACE.
THERE'S HIGH PROBABILITY THAT IT WILL CRUMBLE.
AND I'LL ALSO SAY THIS FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN OTHER PROJECTS.
FOR INSTANCE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VERSAILLES.
I THINK IF CANDIDLY, IF THEY KNEW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO.
BECAUSE REMEMBER WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO SELECTIVELY DEMOLISH BRACE.
YOU HAVE A TIGHT CONSTRUCTION SITE THERE TO BUILD A BUILDING ON THAT SITE AS WELL.
AND I THINK AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WE AS A CITY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF IF THAT FACADE IS IMPORTANT AND AMBASSADOR CEJAS HAS OFFERED TO MAINTAIN IT, THE ONLY WAY PRACTICALLY TO DO THAT AND TO ACHIEVE IT IS TO BE ABLE, FRANKLY, TO RECREATE IT,
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WHICH HE'S WILLING TO DO. OR THE ENRIQUE NAUGHTON SOLUTION OF THE GLASS.OKAY. WE ALL REMEMBER THE CITY HAD TO COMPLETELY REBUILD THE SASSOON.
THEY TRIED TO SAVE IT. DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
COULDN'T BE SAVED. AND HERE'S THE PLANS. REBUILD IT AS IT WAS.
THERE ARE MOST PEOPLE TODAY THAT WOULDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. SO.
AND IT'S MORE ENDURING. AND SO WE CAN'T LOSE OUR HERITAGE.
WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE HELD HOSTAGE AND HAVE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT AND JUST SAY, OH, WELL, I MEAN, TO ME, IF WE REBUILD WHAT WAS THERE AT WHATEVER HEIGHT YOU WANT OR WHATEVER.
AND YOU, MR. BRESLIN, YOU'RE COMPLETELY RIGHT.
AND BY THE WAY, NOW WE HAVE THE SATIE. THE ORIGINAL VANDERBILT WAS THE DEMPSEY VANDERBILT HOTEL.
THE REBUILDING OF IT IS ENDURING FOREVER BECAUSE STRONGER CONSTRUCTION.
AND HAS THAT LOOK THE EXACT LOOK. AND THAT IS AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS WAY. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
NEESON 1 OR 2 STORY BUILDING, ONE AND TWO STORY BUILDINGS ARE THE EASIEST BUILDINGS TO PRESERVE, AND IN THIS CASE, LIKE MANY OTHERS, LIKE MANY OTHERS IN EXOSKELETON, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SEAGULL TODAY.
THE VERSAILLES. THAT'S A TOWER. THIS THIS IS A SMALL RESTORATIVE PROJECT THAT COULD EASILY BE DONE WITH THE RIGHT NOT ON THAT, NOT ON THAT TYPE OF SITE AND NOT GIVEN A STRUCTURE THAT IS LITERALLY IN THE CONDITION THAT'S DESCRIBED IN THE ENGINEERS REPORT.
AGAIN, COLUMNS AND TIE BEAMS ARE EASY TO REPLACE WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
I ALSO HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET. YEAH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'D LIKE TO REITERATE, I GAVE YOU AN ENTIRE EXPLANATION OF HOW WE NEED TO RUN THE MEETING, AND I'D LIKE TO AVOID THE BACK AND FORTH. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PASSION ON THIS BOARD, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AND GET THOSE ADDRESSED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION, AND ALSO GIVE THE APPLICANT, LIKE THE TIME IN FRONT OF US THAT THEY DESERVE. SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PUT THE RENDERING UP AGAIN OF THE STREET FRONT.
IS THAT A NO? KEEP GOING THERE. IS THAT LIKE A 15 FOOT HIGH GATE ON THE ALLEY? LIKE, I'M CONFUSED BY THE THE CAR PARKED IN FRONT.
WHAT'S THE CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF THE. THE WIDTH OF THE GATE IS ONLY 12FT.
IT'S A ONE WAY ALLEY COMING SOUTH. AND THE GATE? THE CURRENT GATE RIGHT NOW THAT WAS DESIGNED BY RICK AND NORTON IS THE ONE THAT YOU SEE THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, ON THE RENDERING, IT WAS JUST DEPICTED AS A JUST A BLANK GATE.
BUT THE IDEA IS FOR THE GATE TO BE. OH, OKAY.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A BIG PIECE OF METAL. OH, NO NO NO.
IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE THE QUALITIES OF THE NORTON GATE, WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ENTRANCE. SO THAT GATE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS NEXT TO THE GARAGE STRUCTURE IS REMAINING, AND IN YOUR RENDERING, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF NOT PROPERLY REPLICATING IT.
THAT IS A 12 FOOT WIDE GATE. BUT THEN IT HAS A LITTLE.
I'M SORRY, BUT IT HAS A LITTLE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, I BELIEVE.
SO IF YOU COULD BRING BACK THAT RENDERING AND JUST.
YEAH. SO YOU SHOWED. CAN YOU SHOW THE EXISTING PLEASE.
SURE. YEAH. SO FROM THIS WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT PORTION? THE PORTION. YOU SEE THAT COLUMN ON THE BEAM ON TOP.
YEAH. THAT, THAT PORTION, THAT BEAM WILL BE REMOVED.
THE COLUMN WILL BE REMOVED AND THE GATE WILL BE SHIFTED SO THAT IT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE HISTORIC DAMAGE THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE HISTORIC. OKAY, SO THIS WHOLE THING WILL BE ONE LARGE GATE.
NO, NO, NO, IT'S THE SAME 12 FOOT, 12 FOOT WIDE GATE.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SHIFTED TO THE EDGE TO THE EAST.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AND IT'S THE ORIGINAL GATE DESIGNED BY ENRIQUE.
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GOTCHA. AND AGAIN THAT SAME DESIGN, HE'S BRINGING IT TO WASHINGTON.SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING FROM WASHINGTON, HE'S BRINGING A PORTION OF THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE TO SORT OF INTEGRATE THE WHOLE PUTTING HIS SIGNATURE THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX.
DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? BECAUSE I MISSED THE INITIAL MEETING, I MET WITH NIECE AND KASDAN AND HIS TEAM TO REVIEW THE PROJECT. ALSO, A FACULTY MEMBER AT THE POLICY HOUSE SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE.
SO I THINK WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND OF COURSE, ON BEHALF OF AMBASSADOR CEJAS ON HOW EXCITED WE ARE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, HOW EXCITED WE ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS LIVING IN THIS DISTRICT.
TO SAY THAT WE NEED YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY AROUND LINCOLN ROAD AND ITS SURROUNDING AREA IS ABSOLUTELY KEY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE DISTRICT. THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN LINCOLN ROAD, BUT WE NEED A COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T JUST NEED TOURISTS. TOURISTS ARE GREAT.
I THINK THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICT, NOT JUST ALONG COLLINS AVENUE, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WE'RE SEEING ON ALTON ROAD THAT BRINGS RESIDENTIAL TO OUR AREA IS SO PARAMOUNT.
AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE THIS MOVE FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS? GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. MEG LOUSTEAU, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE. WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR MARKET RATE HOUSING ON MIAMI BEACH, WE CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING HENRY HOHAUSER STREAMLINE MODERNE BUILDING AND THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED APARTMENT BUILDING. IN 2018, CITY PRESERVATION STAFF DESCRIBED THIS BUILDING AS HAVING A HIGH DEGREE OF HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY WITH ONLY LIMITED MODIFICATIONS, AND COMMENDED THE APPLICANT FOR PROPOSING TO RETAIN AND RESTORE IT.
NOW, YEARS LATER, THE SAME OWNER SAYS THE BUILDING CANNOT BE SAVED.
AND I REALIZED TODAY THAT I HAVE BEEN A PRESERVATION PROFESSIONAL FOR 30 YEARS.
AND IN THAT TIME, IN MANY DIFFERENT CITIES, I'VE SEEN DOZENS, PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF DEMOLITION REQUESTS FROM ENTITIES THAT PURCHASE BUILDINGS IN PROTECTED ZONES, PROTECTED HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THEN DID NOT MAINTAIN THEM, AND THEN CLAIMED THAT THE BUILDINGS WERE BEYOND SAVING. WHEN WE ALLOW THAT STRATEGY TO SUCCEED, WE ARE TACITLY ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO USE THE SAME STRATEGY.
WHEN WE ALLOW PASTICHE HOMAGES TO REPLACE ACTUAL HISTORIC BUILDINGS, WE ARE UNDERCUTTING THE AUTHENTICITY THAT IS AT THE PHILOSOPHICAL CORE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. MIAMI BEACH'S HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE IS IRREPLACEABLE.
WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY HOHAUSER BUILDINGS LEFT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE? WE DO HAVE A COUPLE ONLINE CALLERS.
YES. PERFECT. GOOD MORNING. MATTHEW 125 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY FOR THE APPLICANT.
ONE IS THIS PROJECT SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT LIVES NEARBY.
AND MATTHEW, YOU CAN USE YOUR TIME HOWEVER YOU WISH.
AND THEN IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE, THEY CAN RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS DURING THEIR REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU. SO IS IT SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? THAT'S QUESTION ONE. QUESTION TWO. HAVE THEY MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS? I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS SEEN LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, AND MANY TIMES THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER WITH APPLICANTS TO BRING PROJECTS THAT BECOME MORE CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THEM WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS, WHICH THEIR CONCERNS ARE, IN ADDITION TO THE CONTRIBUTING WHOLE HOUSE OR BUILDING.
IT'S ALSO THE DESIGN, THE SIZING AND THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING ONTO THE WHOLE ENTIRE PARCEL.
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OF IT, WHICH GIVES IT A MUCH LARGER EFFECTIVE INTENSITY OR F.A.R THAN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.AND THEN LASTLY, YOU KNOW THERE'S NO ZONING FOR THIS RIGHT NOW.
AS WE JUST HEARD, THE PREVIOUS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAY IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE APPROPRIATELY. AND AND I THINK THAT THIS BOARD REALIZES THAT IT WILL PROBABLY GET US TO THAT PLACE.
THANK YOU. WE COULD GO TO OUR ONLINE CALLERS.
THE FIRST ONE IS JOHANN MOHR. JOHANN, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. JOHANN MORE, 717 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
I WILL MAKE COMMENTS BOTH ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ON MY OWN BEHALF.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FEELS THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S STANDARDS FOR CONTEXTUAL APPROPRIATENESS, FOR FACADE DESIGN, FOR IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE FEEL THAT THE FACADE REDESIGN, IN FACT IS A STEP BACK TO QUOTE A LEADING MEMBER OF FPNA, NOTHING SAYS AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIKE BALCONIES.
THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS MEANT AS A SNARKY COMMENT BY THAT MEMBER OF FPNA.
WE CONSIDER THE CURRENT DESIGN TO BE OFFENSIVE, QUITE FRANKLY.
AND WE ARE SURPRISED AND DISMAYED AT THE DEVELOPER'S ABSENCE OF REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BY WHICH I DO NOT MEAN TO IMPLY THAT THERE WAS NO REACHING OUT, BUT RATHER THAT THE PROCESS BECAME CHILLED.
ON THE PART OF THE DEVELOPER. ONCE THE DEVELOPER REALIZED THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT EITHER THIS EXCESS HEIGHT STRUCTURE NOR ITS GLASS FACADE WITH THE REFLECTED SUNLIGHT AND HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THE ABSENCE OF A PUSH PULL ARTICULATION OF THE FACADE THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, AS WELL AS BREAKING UP THE DOWNWARD VELOCITY OF STORMWATER RUNOFF OFF THE FACADE.
WE OBJECT TO THE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT. AS MISS LUSTER POINTED OUT OF A BUILDING WE HEAR PAUL CEJAS PRAISING HIS STEWARDSHIP OF THE UNIFIED SITE, BUT NEGLECTING TO MENTION THAT THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN NEGLECTED.
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER IS TROY, RIGHT? TROY, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OH. DID I LOSE IT? COME ON, GO AHEAD. DID WE LOSE YOU? OH, THERE WE GO. TROY.
RIGHT. WASHINGTON AVENUE, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
AND THE PROPOSED FACADE ALREADY SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE DIRECTION AND THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.
THE INTEGRATION OF THE MODERN DESIGN, THE ACTIVATED STREET PRESENCE AND IMPROVE ARCHITECTURAL CULT CHARACTER WILL HELP STRENGTHEN THE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN ROAD. SO WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
WE KNOW THE ADVANCES AND CHANGES THAT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.
WE NEED RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WOULD BE POSITIVE.
I GUESS THE ONLY DOWNSIDE FOR US IS THAT WE WISH THAT THAT WE WOULDN'T LOSE, DON'T SIT ON THE FURNITURE, A PLACE THAT WE WILL BE SAD TO LOSE, BUT WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WE ABDICATE THIS PROJECT.
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THAT CONCLUDES THE CALLERS ONLINE. OKAY. I HAVE SOME BRIEF YOU MAY BRIEF RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS.A NUMBER OF THINGS. THE. IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THERE WAS INPUT RECEIVED FROM THE. RESIDENTS OF THE FLAMINGO PARK AREA.
AND OF COURSE, THERE WAS A RESPONSE TO THAT WITH THE GREATER ARTICULATION OF THE FACADE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE OPINION COUNT.
AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM TWO OF THEM, LINCOLN ROAD AND WASHINGTON AVENUE.
AND THIS IS IN THE CD3 DISTRICT, WHICH IS A DISTRICT IN WHICH THIS STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT SOME OF THE SPEAKERS ONLINE WERE OPPOSING IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED AND IS APPROPRIATE, ALBEIT ON THE EDGE OF THAT.
SO PUT THAT IN THAT CONTEXT. ALSO WE CANNOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR INCENTIVES FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY IN OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND IN THE URBAN CORE.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S POLICY GOAL IS. WE NEED TO CREATE RESIDENCES FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE CITY SO EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO COMMUTE. FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TWO OTHER MINOR POINTS.
THERE. THE. PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THERE WAS ONE OF THE PRIOR APPROVALS ON THIS PROJECT ABOUT RESTORING THE BUILDING, IT WAS ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATING THE BUILDING BEING RELOCATED, NOT BEING IN THE SAME PLACE THAT IT WAS.
AND WE KNOW FROM THE ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT THAT IS PHYSICALLY NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT.
AND AND WE HAVE YOU'VE HEARD FROM AMBASSADOR CEJAS HE HAS MADE THE OFFER.
AND THIS IS REALLY, CANDIDLY, THE ONLY PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO IT TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD.
WE'RE FINE WITH EITHER OF THOSE. THE FINAL POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AND PERHAPS AMBASSADOR CEJAS CAN'T SAY IT HIMSELF, BUT JUST THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE. HE HAS OWNED RESTORED THE 420 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING, ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THIS CITY FOR OVER THREE DECADES.
EVERYTHING FROM THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING TO THAT MAGNIFICENT LOBBY, WITH ITS WITH ITS BURCZYNSKI MURAL, AND TO. IN ORDER FOR AMBASSADOR CEJAS TO COMPLETE THE BLOCK AND TO CONTINUE THE VIABILITY OF THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
HE'S PROBABLY AS GREAT A STEWARD, IF NOT THE GREATEST STEWARD OF PRESERVATION IN THIS CITY.
AND THAT'S AS THOUGH HE'S GETTING NO CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE OF THIS ONE THING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO EFFECT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL, BECAUSE IN THE TOTALITY, HE IS CREATING A BLOCK WITH GREAT PRESERVATION, THE 420 BUILDING AND RESIDENTIAL THAT WILL ENDURE FOR DECADES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE NOT ON THE MIC. IS THIS ALL MARKET RATE HOUSING? YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M JUST BOARD COMMENTARY.
NICK. A FEW THINGS. I YOU KNOW, AS AN ARCHITECT, I RESPECT TREMENDOUSLY AND RICK NORTON AND I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DO IT THE SAME WAY, BUT IT'S KIND OF WHAT HE DOES.
SO I THINK I PREFER THE OFFER TO SORT OF RECONSTRUCT THE FACADE INSTEAD OF THAT.
I THINK IT'LL BE A BETTER PROJECT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NEW TO THE BOARD, BUT GENERALLY TRYING TO CONSIDER LIKE THE IMPLICATIONS OF OUR DELIBERATIONS. I THINK I'M GENERALLY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, CONSCIOUS OF THE PRECEDENT WE SET WHEN WE SORT OF OKAYED DEMOLITION AND APPROVE A TRIBUTE STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE COMPROMISE.
I ALSO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
I THINK THE PROJECT IS IS ON THE CORNER OF WASHINGTON AVENUE.
IT'S NOT 100% IN THE MIDDLE OF A OF A LOW RISE, LOW SCALE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
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SO GENERALLY, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND I HOPE THE COMPROMISE CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THE BOARD.THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENT? MITCH HASKELL.
I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING A BIGGER ISSUE FOR FOR ME.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN TERMS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THE HOHAUSER BUILDING, BUT YOU KNOW, A TWO STORY BUILDING IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO RESTORE.
BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY IS SETTING A PRECEDENT.
AND OUR DECISION IS HISTORIC IN THE FACT THAT ALLOWING A 16 STORY BUILDING ON 16TH STREET.
AND I SAID THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING BECAUSE DOWN THE ROAD, ARE WE GOING TO CREATE A CONCRETE CANYON ON WASHINGTON AVENUE WHERE ALL THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO SPROUT AND SAY, WE NEED MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING? I'M ALL FOR IT, I AGREE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO UP TO 150FT OR 160 OR 170FT AND ALLOW THAT MANY UNITS IN THAT AREA.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC MODEL CAN BE THERE WITH A SHORTER BUILDING.
I APPRECIATE WHAT THE ARCHITECT HAS DONE IN TERMS OF HIS UPDATED DESIGN, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT A BUILDING OF THIS MAGNITUDE OF THIS SIZE BELONGS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND I THINK WE'RE STUDYING, LIKE I SAID, DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE 60S AND 70S ON MIAMI BEACH, COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THIS IS MAYBE BELONGS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT HERE.
THANK YOU. MITCH. HASKELL. YOU MADE ME THINK OF COUNCIL TOWERS.
THE TWO BUILDINGS ALONG COLLINS AVENUE THAT HAVE AN UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE.
YOU'RE DATING YOURSELF? YEAH, YEAH. IF YOUR CLIENT IS I APPRECIATE HIS HIS COMING TO LIGHT WITH THE THE HOMAGE OR THE RETENTION IN CONCEPT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IF HE CAN JUST INCORPORATE THE FACADE AS IT IS TODAY OF COURSE, REPAIRING THOSE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS I THINK YOU YOU'LL YOU'LL YOU'LL CERTAINLY GET MY THUMBS UP.
I WE COULD I MEAN, WE CAN REBUILD. WE CAN'T RETAIN.
THE CONCERN IS, AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED, IS PRECEDENT.
WE APPROVE THIS DEMOLITION SO SOMEBODY CAN RECONSTRUCT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE IT'S NO LEGAL PRECEDENT AT ALL.
I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE OR.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE THAT INITIAL STEP, WE'RE TALKING AN EXOSKELETON HOLDING UP THOSE WALLS.
REPAIR, REPAIRING THE COLUMNS AND TIE BEAMS. AND REMEMBER, THE REQUIREMENT OF BUILDINGS NOW HAVE TO BE THREE FEET HIGHER BECAUSE OF WATER.
SO THIS BUILDING IS LOW SO IT COULD BE RAISED AS WELL.
NO, NOT ACCORDING TO THE OUTSIDE WALLS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FOUNDATION, ACCORDING TO THE ENGINEERS REPORT THAT IT CANNOT BE RAISED. AND BY THE WAY, DIFFERENT FROM THE VERSAILLES.
THEY'RE NOT RAISING THAT STRUCTURE, FOR INSTANCE.
THIS CANNOT BE RAISED. IT CANNOT MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS TO SAVE THAT FACADE.
SO WE CAN REBUILD IT. SO WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO RECONSTRUCT IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER, HIGHER, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
AGAIN, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS COULD THE SAME THING COULD BE DONE HERE WITH THE ORIGINAL FACADE.
YES. IT HAS BEEN DONE. WHERE, WHERE HAVE YOU RAISED TO MEET NEW STANDARDS IN THE CITY YOU DEMOLISH? MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES? WELL, WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES WHERE THE THE BOARD HAS APPROVED RELOCATING,
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LIKE SMALL SINGLE STORY HOMES. WE HAD ONE ALONG.I FORGOT THE ADDRESS NOW RELOCATED FROM THE WEST SIDE OF COLLINS TO THE OCEAN SIDE.
YEAH, THAT WAS A SINGLE STORY. BROWN'S HOTEL.
THEY PICKED IT UP, MOVED IT ON TO A NEW SLAB.
IT WAS A SMALL AT A AT A DIFFERENT FLOODPLAIN.
A SMALL, BUT NOT IN THE CONDITION, NOT IN THE.
THIS IS NOT A CONDITION THAT THIS BUILDING IS IN.
I INVITE YOU TO COME OVER AND SEE THE CONDITION OF THIS BUILDING.
YOU. IT'S TERRIBLE. YOU'RE THE STEWARD OF THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING I COULD DO. THE CITY CONDEMNED IT.
YOU'VE HAD IT FOR 30 YEARS. AND WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, IT WAS.
IT WAS OCCUPIED. REMEMBER THE OPTIONS THAT I HAVE? YEAH. DO NOTHING AND LEAVE A LIABILITY LIABILITY BUILDING THERE AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
THAT'S AND AND WHAT WHAT WHAT DOES THE CITY GAIN? NO HOUSING THAT IS NEEDED, NO NEW TAXES. THAT IS HELPED THE BUDGET TO THE CITY.
AND YOU WANT TO KEEP SOMETHING THAT IS NOT. I HAVE A I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO IF THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE IT'LL BE A COMMERCIAL SPACE OR A PART OF THE PART OF THE LOBBY.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE ELEVATED? CAN IT, CAN IT STAY AT THE CURRENT ELEVATION.
THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT HABITABLE SPACE. NO. UNDER THE 50% RULE I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ELEVATED, BUT IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL BE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.
WOULDN'T BE RESIDENTIAL. WOULD IT BE THE LOBBY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL? IT WOULDN'T BE LOBBIES. LOBBIES DON'T HAVE TO. I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO I THINK THE BEST, THE BEST EFFORT. I THINK THE BEST PATTERN HERE BASED UPON FROM THE BOARD, IS IF YOU COULD KEEP PART OF THAT FACADE, KEEP THE FACADE. AND FOR STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S BETTER TO KEEP THE FACADE THAN RECONSTRUCT IT.
I MEAN, WE'VE STUDIED IT. IT'S BEEN STUDIED. WE DON'T WE DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.
AND I THINK AS THE PRACTICAL I THINK CANDIDLY, MR. BRESLIN PUT HIS FINGER ON IT, THE PRACTICAL SOLUTION IS TO DO THE ALTERNATIVE THAT AMBASSADOR SACHSE PROPOSED.
MR.. NO, IT'S IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
THIS FACADE BECOMES A GARDEN WALL, AND BEHIND IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.
NOT TO MENTION THE COMPLICATION IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW BUILDING ON SUCH A SMALL SITE.
LET'S CANDIDLY, CAN WE? LET'S BE PRACTICAL ABOUT THIS.
MADAM CHAIR, NISSAN. AGAIN, I REFER TO BOUGAINVILLE APARTMENTS.
IT'S THE SAME ISSUE. THEY DID NOT RAISE THAT STRUCTURE.
IT'S NOT A HABITABLE SPACE. THEY JUST WON'T WORK.
I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT WON'T WORK FOR US.
MITCH. MITCH, YOU RECALL THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GAP BUILDING OVER HERE, AND YOU REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE HISTORICAL PORTION OF IT. THAT SAME ENGINEER. NO, LET'S NOT BLAME THE ENGINEER.
THE STEEL WAS ROTTED. THE CONCRETE HAS SALT ON IT.
THAT THAT THING WAS CRUMBLING AND IT CRUMBLED BECAUSE THE BOARD SAID YOU HAD TO KEEP IT.
AND THE MINUTE THEY TOOK IT APART, THAT BUILDING CRUMBLED.
THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION WE DONE. HOW MANY HISTORIC BUILDINGS SINCE 1987 HAVE I DONE HERE? I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BUILDING IN THE CONDITIONS THAT I'VE SEEN THIS BUILDING NOW REPLICATION.
LOOK, IT'S IT'S NOT THE NUMBER ONE OPTION AS A HISTORIC CONSULTANT.
CORRECT? IT'S NOT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, WE'RE PROPOSING A MUCH BETTER, MORE CONTEMPORARY DESIGN THAT WILL REFLECT THE MEMORY OF THIS BUILDING.
I'VE RESTORE A NUMBER OF HOHAUSER BUILDINGS. HOWEVER, THIS BUILDING CAN NOT BE MAINTAINED.
THIS CANNOT BE REBUILT. I MEAN COULD NOT BE HELD UP THE MINUTE WE TAKE IT APART.
THE WINDOWS. YOU TAKE THE WINDOWS APART, THE HEADERS ARE GOING TO COLLAPSE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF ARCHITECTURE THAT WE HAVE THERE.
THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTARY.
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SO ELIZABETH, IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.SO NOW I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A FEW MORE THINGS TO THE TO THE LIST OF ITEMS TO CONSIDER.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS A LIVING ORGANISM.
AND BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP OUR IDENTITY AND OUR HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL HERITAGE.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I REALIZE THAT WE ARE PREPARING THE CITY FOR SEA LEVEL RISE.
AND THAT'S WHY A NEW CONSTRUCTION IS REQUIRED TO BE HIGHER.
AND THEN I KEEP ON ASKING MYSELF, IF WE KEEP THIS HISTORIC BUILDING IN PLACE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT IN FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW. SO WE'RE JUST PUSHING THE PROBLEM TO THE FUTURE AND AT THE SAME TIME COMPROMISING THE QUALITY WE COULD OFFER FOR THE BUILDING AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M REALLY TORN BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES HERE.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE ENGRAVED GLASS PROPOSED FOR THE ENTRY NOW DOESN'T DO ENOUGH IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE MEMORY OF THE BUILDING THERE. SO I PREFER THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE TO SOMEWHAT REPLICATE.
BUT HOWEVER, AS WE'VE SEEN HERE, SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS IN MIAMI BEACH WITH WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY SOLID BALCONIES COMING HERE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO DEMOLISH THE BALCONIES AND REPLACE THEM WITH GLASS.
BECAUSE NOWADAYS PEOPLE WANT THE THE THE VIEW OF THE CITY.
AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS BUILDING MAY BE 15 STOREY HEIGHTS, I'M NOT SURE IF THE BALCONIES WOULD BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE GIVEN THE THE PREFERENCES OF RESIDENTS NOWADAYS. SO I THINK THE ARTICULATION OF THE FACADE WOULD BE BETTER ACHIEVED WITH THE VOLUMETRIC CHANGE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE SOLID BALCONIES VERSUS THE GLASS ONES.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR PRESENCE HERE, AMBASSADOR.
GRAY, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE INFAMOUS COLLINS PARK HOTEL? FIVE BUILDINGS. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO RESTORE ALL OF THEM.
ONE OF THEM COLLAPSED. THE CITY HANDED THEM THE THE DRAWINGS.
THEY REBUILT IT EXACTLY AS IT WAS AND NO ONE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU ANYBODY COMING HERE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, IN MY OPINION.
RANDY. NO. NO COMMENTARY. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEESON.
THANK YOU, AMBASSADOR, FOR COMING BEFORE US. YOU KNOW, MY TAKE ON THIS? NEESON MADE A COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE'S DISCUSSION OR USE OF THE WORD PRECEDENT.
HOWEVER, EVEN IN THAT REALM, WE LOOK AT IT ON A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FACT CONTINGENT BASIS.
AND SO LOOKING AT THE FACTS OF THIS SITUATION I TEND TO AGREE WITH NICK IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
LOOK, I NEVER WANT TO LOSE A BUILDING. YOU KNOW, I WISH WE STILL HAD THOSE THOSE BLUE FRONTS, THOSE BLUE DOOR FRONTS FACING, YOU KNOW, FACING EAST TOWARDS WASHINGTON WITHOUT THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN FRONT OF IT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, AND NOT IN EVERY INSTANCE I THINK I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT IN GENERAL.
I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF RECONSTRUCTION. WHILE I AGREE, NO ONE KNOWS THAT IT'S DIFFERENT.
AND AS ANYBODY WHO'S LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH KNOWS, THAT WAS ALL ADDED ONE IN THE 80S, MAYBE.
EXACTLY SO. RIGHT. BUT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S MY COMMENTARY.
I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WHAT'S GOING ON. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS.
I RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE, WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
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I THINK I WOULD ECHO SOME OF ELIZABETH'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE BALCONIES.AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN A 1930S HISTORIC BUILDING WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY OUTDOOR SPACE, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT SOMEONE MIGHT WANT IN SOMETHING THAT'S NEW.
THAT'S MY COMMENTARY. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE TENOR OF THE CONVERSATION THUS FAR.
I THINK WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS FOR US TO TAKE A STRAW POLL BECAUSE WE HAVE.
NO, NO, I KNOW WE NEED FIVE. BUT HOW MANY WE HAVE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE FOR DEMOLITION.
WELL, IT ALL REQUIRES TOGETHER ONE VOTE FOR FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
CHAIR, IF I MAY. AND TO THIS, THE SUGGESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I, IF I MAY ASK DIRECTLY, MR. BRESLIN, IF WE GO WITH THE ALTERNATIVE, REBUILDING THE FACADE, THE PORTIONS OF THE FACADE.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY YOU'RE NOT ON MIC.
THAT WOULD TAKE IT TO THE TERMINATION OF THAT EYEBROW.
THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS, DIRECTING DIRECTED NORTH.
WHAT'S THAT? THE FIRST FIVE FEET OR SO. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD WRAP SOMEWHAT AROUND THE CORNER LIKE THE TERMINATOR.
YEAH. THERE'S THERE'S A REVEAL. AND YEAH, THE THE EYEBROW IS ACTUALLY ON THE EASTERN SIDE. YES. I DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE HERE. I HAVE IT FROM THE FRONT, SO I CAN'T SEE IT'S ABOUT TEN FEET IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED. YEAH. OKAY. LINDSAY. TEN FEET PROBABLY TAKES CARE OF THE THANKS TO GOOGLE MAPS.
YEAH. THANKS. I HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION, I GUESS FOR STAFF, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE RECONSTRUCTION, IS THERE LIKE A STANDARD LIKE HOW IS IT DOCUMENTED AND FOR ACCURACY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DOCUMENT THE BUILDING, INCLUDING LIKE CURRENT DRAWINGS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND THEN THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHICH SHOW THE METHOD FOR RECONSTRUCTION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD ASK FOR, FOR THE BOARD'S INPUT, IF THIS IS THE WAY TO GO. I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THE BUILDING HAS LIKE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE FRONT. THE CODE ALSO DOES NOT ALLOW MORE THAN ONE STORY ROOFTOP ADDITION.
SO I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO MOVE THE BUILDING TO THE TO THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE SOUTH, AND THEN CONSTRUCT THE WHATEVER THE EYEBROW THAT'S TEN FEET NOW ABOVE THAT BALCONIES CAN PROJECT OVER IT, BUT THE INTERIOR LIVING SPACE COULD NOT PROJECT OVER THAT BUILDING EXCEPT.
NO, I THINK I THINK AS LONG AS IF THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE EITHER IT'S GOING TO BE MOVED OR NOT. SO I'LL LET THE APPLICANT LET US KNOW. DO THEY NEED TO MOVE THE BUILDING COMPARED TO WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW? AND IF SO, WE SHOULD KNOW THAT AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL.
YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO. MICHAEL. I'M SORRY. LINDSAY.
THE BUILDING, THE NEW STRUCTURE CAN'T CANTILEVER OVER.
THIS IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT WOULD NOT APPLY. CORRECT. OKAY.
SO THE BUILDING COULD STAY IN PLACE AND YOU GUYS CAN BUILD YOUR HOUSING ABOVE IT.
NO, IT HAS TO MOVE. IT HAS TO MOVE BACK AS A NEW BUILDING.
BUT I MEAN, WE WOULD BE REPLICATING IT. WE WOULD JUST BE MOVED A FEW FEET.
WHICH WAY IS IT MOVING BACK SOUTH. SOUTH. SOUTH.
YES. SOUTH OR HOW MUCH? HOW MANY FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE? FIVE FEET, I THINK. FIVE FEET. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I THINK THE STANDARD SHOULD BE THAT. YEAH. YOU CAN'T TELL THAT.
IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL. IT'S AN EXACT REPLICA TO THE.
IT WOULD BE AN EXACT REPLICA. GUYS, COME ON, WE'RE ALL YOUR ARCHITECTS.
ENGINEERS? WE'RE VERY, VERY SMART PEOPLE HERE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A VERY DIFFICULT BUILDING TO REPLICATE.
MY GOODNESS. THIS IS EIGHT INCH. I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION.
SO THERE'S NO. YES. THIS IS ONE SIMPLE BUILDING TO REPLICATE.
IT WOULD BE RECOGNIZABLE. WE DON'T WANT TO DECEIVE.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A STAB AT EMOTION. OKAY, MITCH.
I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS INCLUSIVE OF THE RETENTION
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OF THE FACADE GOING BACK TEN FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS.AND THAT'S MY MOTION. BUT WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T ACCEPT IT.
NO. WE CAN'T. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I'M AGAINST RECONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO OPEN THE FLOODGATES FOR FUTURE.
FUTURE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION PENDING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? SO THAT MOTION FAILS.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? FORWARD. I MEAN, THE FACADE AND THE WRAP, THE WRAPPING AROUND WOULD BE TEN FEET, TEN FEET FROM THE EXISTING FACADE. BUT THE EXISTING FACADE WILL BE MOVED TOWARDS THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THE BOARD TREMENDOUSLY.
AND I'M NOT SAYING I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THIS IN EVERY CASE, BUT IN THIS CASE I AM.
SO I WOULD MOVE THAT FORWARD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WOULD SECOND. CAN I ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO BRING THE PROJECT BACK FOR US BEFORE THE FINAL APPROVAL.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PIECES MOVING HERE, AND NOT EVERYBODY IS 100% COMFORTABLE WITH THE DEMOLITION AND THE REPRODUCTION OF THE EXISTING FACADE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE WE GIVE THAT.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED, I MEAN, THIS IS, IS, IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING FROM WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND WHAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF IS THAT WE ARE JUST REPLICATING A PORTION OF THE FACADE AS OPPOSED TO DOING THE GLASS ETCHED HOMAGE.
WE WOULD ASK SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT WE GET A FINAL APPROVAL.
AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT THE STAFF WOULD REVIEW OBVIOUSLY THOSE PLANS IN TERMS OF THE RETENTION, BUT IT WOULD CREATE TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.
MISS. JUST LET ME IF IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THE GLASS JUST WE CAN PUT IT UP. BASICALLY THIS WILL BE THE RECONSTRUCTED FACADE.
ALL YOU SEE IN THERE, THAT'S THAT IS THE SAME EXACT LOCATION.
THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK. AND THEN THE RETAIL PORTION SETS BACK TEN FEET.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LOBBY. THAT'S THE HEART OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITH THAT LOOK.
THAT IS STUCCO. HOPEFULLY OUR GUYS WILL DO A BETTER JOB THAN THAT STUCCO WORK THAT YOU SEE THERE.
ARE YOU STILL MAINTAINING YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? I MEAN, I WILL LEAVE TO MY COLLEAGUES AT THE BOARD IF THEY FEEL LIKE MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS WELCOME, WHICH STAYS. IF THEY FEEL IT'S NOT NECESSARY, WE CAN DROP IT.
OKAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD FOR THE RECORD, WHICH I THINK RESPONDS TO TO ELIZABETH'S CONCERN IS THAT THIS THERE IS A CONDITION IN THE DRAFT ORDER THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS SUBJECT TO THE ADOPTION OF THE RELATED LDR AMENDMENTS, SO IF THOSE LDR AMENDMENTS ARE NOT ADOPTED, THEN THIS PROJECT WOULD NEED TO BE REVISED, RIGHT? SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD, OF COURSE. SO I WANT TO MARK THAT MR. GELPI WAS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. MR. HOLLINGWORTH WAS THE SECOND.
THERE WAS NO ACCEPTANCE OF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
SHOULD WE TAKE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SO THIS IS THIS IS TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING ALONG WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST TEN FEET, MOVING THAT STRUCTURE TO THE SOUTH TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
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COORDINATED WITH STAFF. YES, THEY'LL PROVIDE UPDATED RENDERINGS AS NEEDED TO SHOW.SO I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. MR. HOLLINGWORTH? YES.
MR. MEYER? NO. MISS LOVELL? YES. MR.. SHELBY.
YES. MR. NOVICK. NO. MR. BRESLIN. YES. MISS CAMARGO.
YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ALSO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE TODAY.
IT WILL HELP FACILITATE A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE LIFE OF THE CENTER PART OF THIS CITY.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS. AND ONCE AGAIN HE PULLS IT OUT.
GREAT JOB. I WAS THINKING ABOUT OUR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOVING ALONG TO OUR NEXT APPLICATION. THIS APPLICATION IS HPV
[3. HPB25-0645, 235 WASHINGTON AVENUE – BASECAMP305]
250645235 WASHINGTON AVENUE.SECOND. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING TWO STORY CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND ITS REPLACEMENT WITH RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE AND PLAYGROUND SERVING THE ADJACENT BASE. CAMP 305 SCHOOL AT 251 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
TOGETHER WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION NOW OF A NEW INTERPRETIVE FACADE ELEMENT ALONG WASHINGTON AVENUE, WHICH NOW INCLUDES A FRONT SETBACK VARIANCE OF FIVE FEET.
THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS PREPARED BY USE OF CONSULTING ENGINEERING DATED DECEMBER 19TH, 2025, CONCLUDING THAT THE STRUCTURAL MATERIALS ARE COMPROMISED AND THAT REPORT RECOMMENDED DEMOLITION.
NOW, THE BOARD HAS SEEN THIS MOST RECENTLY LAST MONTH, AS WELL AS SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT.
THE APPLICATION WAS CONTINUED FROM THE MEETING LAST MONTH BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD TO ADVERTISE A NEW FRONT SETBACK VARIANCE, BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL INCLUDED NOW RECONSTRUCTION, ALMOST LIKE THE THE LAST PROJECT.
BUT THIS THIS CODE HERE REQUIRES A BUILD TO LINE OF FIVE FEET OF A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, TO KEEP IT AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH IS AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DEMOLITION, INCLUDING THE RECONSTRUCTED THE RECONSTRUCTED FACADE INTERPRETATION PART OF THE APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE VARIANCE AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.
WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. YES. EXPLAIN THE VARIANCE NEED.
IF THEY RETAIN THE EXISTING FACADE, THEY RETAIN THE EXISTING FACADE.
THEY DO NOT NEED THE VARIANCE. IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH COMPLETELY AND BUILD THEIR INTERPRETIVE FACADE AT THE CURRENT LOCATION WHERE THE EXISTING FACADE IS.
SO THIS IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO OTHERWISE THEY'D HAVE TO SET IT BACK FIVE FEET, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THIS IS UNIQUE AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE RP DISTRICTS.
HERE IS THE ONLY INSTANCE IN THE CITY WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A MINIMUM SETBACK, IT'S A BILL TWO LINE.
IT'S A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM. A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IF THEY WERE TO RECONSTRUCT IT IN PLACE, IT WOULD NEED TO WOULD NOT NEED A VARIANCE.
IT WOULD NOT CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. NICK RAISED IF THEY WERE TO RECONSTRUCT IT.
HOWEVER, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WOULD NEED THAT VARIANCE.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MY NAME IS PAUL SAVAGE WITH LAW OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE OF THIS MORNING'S AGENDA AT 235 WASHINGTON AVENUE.
I'M JOINED TODAY WITH ROB ALVAREZ OF OUR SHOP TOGETHER WITH MICHAEL LARKIN.
OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD IS RYAN ALDERMAN, AND OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD IS YUSUF HAKIM.
HAKIM HE'S ON LINE TODAY, AS WELL AS OUR HISTORIC RESOURCE CONSULTANT.
STEVE ADVICOR IS HERE TO MY LEFT. AS MICHAEL WAS EXPLAINING, WE'VE BEEN HERE A TOTAL.
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AND HAVE GONE BACK EACH TIME WITH SOME HOMEWORK TO DO.I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH ALL OF THE OTHER EVIDENCE THAT WE PUT ON, BUT RATHER JUST SORT OF GO THROUGH A BRIEF CHRONOLOGY, LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE WERE, THE THINGS THAT WE ADDRESSED AND WHERE WE'RE, WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE PROPOSE.
SO AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THIS APPLICANT IS THE BASE 305 SCHOOL WHICH IS COMING UP OUT OF THE GROUND AT GREAT SPEED, HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH.
THIS SCHOOL IS VERY WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, THAT IS THE ALREADY APPROVED STRUCTURE THAT'S COMING UP OUT OF THE GROUND NOW.
AND THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION INVOLVES THE SITE TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH AT 235.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PREVIEW, I'M GOING TO BOOKEND THIS PRESENTATION WITH FOUR CHOICES, FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED SINCE COMPLETING THE FINAL APPLICATION IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, AS MICHAEL BELUSHI EXPLAINED. WE HAVE COME BACK THE MARCH 17TH TO APRIL 14TH AND NOW THE MAY 12TH.
AND OVER THAT TIME, AND WORKING WITH THE BOARD, WE'VE COME UP WITH FOUR OPTIONS.
THE FIRST OPTION OUT OF THE BOX WAS WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PRESERVATION OR RECONSTRUCTION WAS A FENCE THAT WOULD MATCH THE, THE SCHOOL AND WOULD CARRY CARRY ALONG WITH THE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE SCHOOL WITH, WITH WITH AMPLE LANDSCAPING.
THAT'S THE ONE ON THE TOP LEFT. THE NEXT ITERATION WAS A ALUMINUM LOUVER.
HOW? AN HOMAGE, IF YOU WILL, THAT WAS BASED ON THE LOUVER HOUSE EXAMPLE.
THAT WOULD BE A BRONZED ALUMINUM LET IN A LOT OF LIGHT AND AIR AND ALSO TRACK THE FACADE.
THE THIRD ITERATION WAS A BREEZE BRICK BREEZE BLOCK RATHER WHICH, WHICH, WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD ALSO ALLOW A LOT OF LIGHT AND AIR INTO THE SITE.
AND THEN THE FOURTH ITERATION WE'RE BRINGING ON TO THIS HEARING IS A RECONSTRUCTED FACADE THAT WOULD RECREATE ALL OF THE ELEMENTS, THE EYEBROWS AND THE LOCATIONS OF THE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE AGAIN THE, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION, IMPORTANTLY IS TO PROVIDE A ASSEMBLY AND PLAY AREA FOR THE CHILDREN WE PUT ON EVIDENCE.
I WON'T REPEAT THAT, BUT WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS FOR THE KIDS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM PARENTS OVER THE HEARINGS THAT THEY THAT THEY NEED THIS.
AND THEY THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THERE'LL BE A MINI SOCCER FIELD THERE.
AND THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE USE, IF YOU WILL.
BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE INITIAL SUBMISSION. NEXT SLIDE.
AGAIN, STAFF ALSO DIGESTED OUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING REPORT, WHICH INCLUDED CHLORIDE TESTING OF, OF THE, OF ALL OF THE CONCRETE THAT WAS SPALLING AND OTHERWISE FAILING.
AND SO THE RETENTION OF THE STRUCTURE WAS JUST NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS SITE.
AND STAFF AGREES IN ITS PROFESSIONAL EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD.
THEY ALSO IMPORTANTLY RECOMMENDS THAT WE FURTHER STUDY THE PERIMETER FENCING TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP AN ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION THAT WOULD PAY HOMAGE AND HONOR THE, THE THE FACADE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, WE TOOK THAT TO HEART AND, AND REALIZED THAT WE HAD PARTICIPATED IN THE APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE LOUVER HOUSE AT 313 MERIDIAN. NEXT SLIDE.
WHICH IS IN PLACE TODAY. AND, AND FEATURES ALUMINUM, BRONZE, ALUMINUM AND RECREATES THAT HISTORICAL RESOURCE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW TURNING TO OUR PARTICULAR SITE AND LOOKING AT THE EYEBROWS THAT ARE THERE AND OTHER ELEMENTS AND HAVING STEVE ADVICOR WHO'S HERE TALK ABOUT THAT AND ALSO IN THE STAFF, IT'S NOT REALLY THE, THE, THE ELEMENTS AND OF THIS BUILDING ARE, QUOTE, MODEST, BUT REALLY IS MORE IMPORTANT WHEN LOOKING
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AT THE OVERALL URBAN FABRIC AND THE FACADE AND THE HEIGHT THAT'S THERE.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WAS THE LOUVER HOUSE INTERPRETATION THAT WE, THAT WE CAME WITH A BRONZED ALUMINUM THAT WOULD TRACK THE HEIGHT AND ELEMENTS OF THE FACADE AND ALSO SERVE AS, AS A FENCING AND A SAFETY MATERIAL FOR THE KIDS.
NEXT SLIDE. NOW THIRDLY, WE STUDIED THE BREEZE BRICK.
AND ALSO IT'S A LITTLE MORE REFINED. I MEAN, I, WHEN I WAS A KID, THEY HAD BREEZE BRICKS ALL OVER MY SCHOOL AND YOU COULD SEE THROUGH THEM, YOU COULD PUT YOUR HAND THROUGH THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE PRECAST CONCRETE.
SOME OF THEM ARE CLAY. THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL BY MY CLIENT IS A LITTLE MORE REFINED THAN THAT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY THEY'RE ACTUALLY CERAMIC. THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE.
THEY WOULD BE COLORED CERAMIC TILES. SO THEY WERE SMOOTHER.
THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE. IT'S A MORE ELEGANT AND MORE REFINED BUILDING MATERIAL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A RENDER OF THE REPLICATION USING THE, THE BREEZE BRICKS OR SUN BREAKS, AS THEY'RE CALLED. IF YOU USE THIS TILE THAT I'M DISCUSSING, THIS GLAZED CERAMIC TYPE TILE.
AND JUST TO, I'M GOING TO PICK UP A LITTLE BIT, PICK UP THE PACE HERE.
SO DON'T RUN OUT OF TIME. BUT THIS WAS THE STUDY THAT WE THAT WE LOOKED AT THE TWO WINGS ON THE SIDE WOULD OF COURSE, BE THE NORTH AND SOUTH SMALLER ELEVATIONS THAT WOULD GIVE STRUCTURAL RIGIDITY TO HOLD UP THE FACADE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AT THAT, AT THAT TIME THE THE THE STAFF REMAINED SUPPORTIVE OF THE CERAMIC SUN BREAK UNITS AND THE FIBER REINFORCED CONCRETE THAT WE WOULD RETAIN IN THE EYEBROWS.
AND THEY SUPPORTED OUR STUDY BEFORE THIS BOARD AND APPRECIATED OUR WORK ON THAT, ON THAT ITERATION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS ANOTHER ANOTHER RENDER OF THE SUN BRICK TYPE TREATMENT AND, AND SOLUTION TO THIS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ANOTHER RENDER OF AND ANOTHER STUDY.
WE ALSO DO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE SCHOOLS, LIKE I MENTIONED AND OTHER IN HOTELS AND OTHER MID-CENTURY TYPE EXAMPLES OF THE USE OF THIS MATERIAL VERY PROMINENT IN FLORIDA.
NOW BACK NOW HERE WE ARE IN SORT OF CHAPTER FOUR OF THIS STORY.
AND STAFF AGAIN RECOGNIZES THE THE GREAT DETERIORATION OF THE STRUCTURE AS MEMORIALIZED IN OUR REPORTS BY OUR, BY OUR ENGINEER. AND ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT A FACADE OR AN HOMAGE IS APPROPRIATE HERE.
AND ALSO RECOMMENDS FAVORABLE ACTION ON THE DEMOLITION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. LASTLY, ONE OF OUR HOMEWORK ITEMS WAS TO CHECK WITH THE CITY.
WE, WE HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM THE CHIEF OF, FROM ACTUALLY THREE ENTITIES OF THE CITY.
ONE IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE. ONE IS THE OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT.
AND THEN THIRDLY IS THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
ALL THREE OF WHICH GAVE US A VERY A VERY COLD RECEPTION TO THE IDEA OF USING THE ADJACENT POLICE BUILDING THAT'S TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH FOR STAGING AND DEMOLITION OR OTHER WORK.
WE EXPLAINED IN THE PRIOR HEARINGS HOW TIGHT THE THE REAR ALLEYWAY WAS, ETC.
AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT IT'S AGAINST THE CODE.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE LIABILITY, THEY DON'T LIKE THE PRECEDENT OF THAT.
SO THEY WOULD NOT LET US USE THE, THE CITY PROPERTY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
MADAM CHAIR, HOW MUCH LONGER? 45 SECONDS. YOU KNOW WHAT, TWO MINUTES.
TWO MINUTES? YEAH. TWO MINUTES. AND SO JUST AGAIN, NOT TO RECITE FOUR HEARINGS WORTH OF MATERIAL, BUT TO JUST COME AROUND THE HORN HERE AND CONCLUDE IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDES THIS IS THE, THE LATEST ITERATION IS THE FACADE RECONSTRUCTION THAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH WOULD BE TRADITIONAL MASONRY AS DISCUSSED IN THE PRIOR MATTER BEFORE THIS ONE, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF STAFF FOR A RECONSTRUCTION.
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DEPICTED THERE WOULD COME OUT TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE.IT WOULD IT WOULD BE EXACTLY TWO, BY THE WAY, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE FACADE.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE KIDS THERE, PROVIDE SOME LIGHT AND AIR USING THOSE ALUMINUM OPENINGS, BUT ALSO REPRODUCE THE FACADE FOR THIS. IN CONCLUSION THERE'S A COUPLE OF MORE RENDERS IN MY LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT.
I WILL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE FINAL THING.
FACTS MATTER. ALL OF THESE ARE DIFFERENT FACTS.
THIS IS FOR AN EDUCATIONAL USE. I WOULD NOT BE SO FACILE AS TO SAY THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE AGAINST EDUCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE EVERYONE ON THE BOARD IS FOR EDUCATION, AS THE CHAIRWOMAN MENTIONED LAST TIME. HOWEVER, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT THIS IS NOT FOR A HOTEL AND RESTAURANT AND TO PUT AS MANY PEOPLE ON THE ROOFTOP WITH $42 PEACH BELLINIS OR WHATEVER WE CAN SELL.
THIS IS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY, USED BY THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE THINK THAT THESE CHOICES WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU EVALUATE THEM.
WE ARE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND TAKE A VOTE ON ONE OF THE ONES THAT YOU MAY PREFER, AND WE WILL MAINTAIN SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL, MADAM CHAIR. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
QUESTIONS. A QUESTION ON IF YOU REPRODUCE THE FOURTH SECTION WOULD WOULD YOU BE PUTTING LIKE STORAGE IN THERE? I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A PLAYGROUND AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE THINGS FOR KIDS, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'D WANT TO HAVE A STORAGE AREA THAT YOU CAN PUT BALLS AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY'RE PLAYING WITH IN THERE.
AND IT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE YOU PLANNED THAT.
RIGHT. SO WE ARE, WE ARE WILLING TO, TO DO THAT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE NORTH AND SOUTH SMALLER ELEVATIONS FOR STRUCTURAL RIGIDITY.
BUT IF, BUT IF YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT STORAGE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN DO.
YES, SIR. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO WE TYPICALLY DON'T RECOMMEND RECONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT SENSES A FALSE NARRATIVE THAT SOMEONE TRIES, YOU KNOW, MAY MISPERCEIVE THIS AS BEING THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE.
AND THEN AS WELL, THE REALLY REPLICATING BACK A CERTAIN DISTANCE.
SO IT'S AN AWKWARD LOOK TO HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, PART OF A BUILDING. I'M FACING THE STREET.
THIS WAS WHO HERE? THAT WHOLE HOUSE WAS ON KINGSTON HALL.
KINGSTON HALL. RIGHT. SO WE FEEL THIS IS MORE OF A MORE TRUE TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT.
RANDY, YOU HAD QUESTIONS. IS I WAS READING THE DESCRIPTION.
IT MENTIONS FENCING AND LANDSCAPING ON WASHINGTON.
IS THAT BEHIND THIS OR IS THIS OPE? WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS AS IT IS SHOWN IN OPTION FOUR, DO YOU SEE RIGHT THROUGH THE FIELD? THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FENCE BEHIND THAT WITH AN ADDITIONAL GATE BEHIND IT.
OR IS THERE IS THIS A SECURITY EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THEN? YES IT IS, YES IT IS. AND THERE'S NOT A ANOTHER SET OF FENCING AND ANOTHER SET OF LANDSCAPING.
SO THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE STRICTLY STREET TREES. ARE YOU REPLACING.
BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY OPTION YOU SHOW.
SO THE YOU KNOW, THE FRONT OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS NOT EXACTLY, BUT ALMOST TO THE PROPERTY LINE, TO THE, TO THE SIDEWALK, BUT THE STREET TREES.
SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT IN EVERY PICTURE. THE STREET TREES ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ARE TO REMAIN.
SO STREET TREES ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ARE TO REMAIN.
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SO AND THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT. YOU SHOWED TWO VERY TALL.SO MY ARCHITECT IS TELLING ME THAT THE PALM TREES MAY HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT.
THE, THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY THE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WILL REMAIN.
OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE MANY TIMES.
I THINK THOSE ARE JUVENILE OAK TREES THAT ARE THERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE FENCE.
THAT'S LIKE A FENCE, BASICALLY. RIGHT? YES, SIR.
GLASS IN THE FACADE. THE SECOND STORY WOULD REMAIN OPEN.
YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF YOU RECONSTRUCT, IT'S AT THE SAME PRECISE LOCATION THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THE EXACT HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING.
QUESTIONS? YEAH. MICHAEL I'M NOT CALLING YOU UP, BUT I'M INTERESTED IN REITERATING WHY THIS BUILDING COULDN'T BE DEMOLISHED FROM THE REAR ALLEY.
BUT JUST TO RECAP IT OR SUMMARIZE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION QUICKLY THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT REAR ALLEY THAT WE HAVE DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH. HAVING WORKED ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SCHOOL THAT'S ALMOST FINISHED TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH, THE MOT LICENSE INVOLVING, YOU KNOW, CLOSING AN AREA SO THAT YOU TAKE THE DELIVERIES AND THE CEMENT TRUCK AND THE, AND THE DEMOLITION DEMOLITION EQUIPMENT AND THE LIKE.
ALL OF THAT. NOW FOR THE NEW SCHOOL IS ON WASHINGTON.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT TO THE REAR IN THE ALLEY FOR THIS SITE.
AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE CANNOT. PARDON ME, THE INITIAL SITE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS RIGHT, THAT I'M SAYING BY EXAMPLE THAT MOT AREA IS ALL ON WASHINGTON.
OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO WORK ON THIS SITE. IT WOULD ALL SIMILARLY ALL BE ON WASHINGTON, RIGHT? HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE FACADE, WE CANNOT WE CAN'T PRESERVE IT AND GO INTO THE BUILDING AND DEMOLISH IT.
RIGHT. IT WOULD TAKE THE DEMOLITION OF THE FACADE AND THE BACK IS HAS BEEN IS, IS COVERED BY HIGH HIGH LEVELS OF VOLTAGE. SORRY. THANK YOU. HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES THAT HAVE COME IN THERE, THAT'S ABOVE THE STRUCTURE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
YOU HAVE WINDOW OPENINGS, YOU HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER THAT'S RUNNING.
YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN THERE, YOU DEMOLISH THE THE WALLS THE ROCK LEFT THE SHEET ROCK. WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DUMP IT OUT IN THE REAR ALLEY INTO A DUMP TRUCK.
OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A SWINGING EXCAVATOR IN ANY ALLEY, BUT THAT THAT BUILDING'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER IN TERMS OF THE VIABILITY OF DEMOLISHING IT FROM THE REAR. EXCUSE ME? YOU CAN'T USE THE REAR. YOU'RE NOT ON THE MIC.
SORRY. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU TO TO PICK UP DEBRIS, TO DUMP DEBRIS.
OR IF YOU CHANGE YOUR ROOF, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE DONE? ALONG WASHINGTON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT.
ELIZABETH. YEAH. SO THAT BROUGHT ME ANOTHER QUESTION.
LAST HEARING WE DISCUSSED MAYBE PARTIALLY DEMOLISHING THE FRONT ELEVATION, LET'S SAY 14 OR 15FT, WHATEVER IT'S NEEDED FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND THE PROPERTY.
HAVE YOU FURTHER INVESTIGATED ON THE OPTION? YES.
SO THE OUR, OUR ENGINEER WHO IS ALSO ATTENDING BY ZOOM EVALUATED THE IDEA OF CUTTING THAT WOULD INVOLVE A VERTICAL CUT OF THE STRUCTURE AND AND THEN MOVING MOVING THAT OUT OF THE
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WAY, DOING THE WORK IN EITHER DISCARDING THAT STRUCTURE IN PART OR, OR TRYING TO REINTEGRATE THAT STRUCTURE AND BASED UPON THE CHLORIDE LEVELS THAT ARE IN THE, IN THE CONCRETE.AND IT'S, IT'S EXISTING SPALLING AND THE DETERIORATION THAT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO, TO, TO MAKE THE VERTICAL CUTS, TO TAKE OUT PART OF THE FACADE. AND WE HAD THAT WE HAVE THAT IN OUR MATERIALS ALSO WHERE HE LOOKED AT CERTAIN, HE DREW RED LINES ABOUT WHERE POTENTIAL VERTICAL CUTS WERE POSSIBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH. JUST JUST A POINT BECAUSE SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM WE HEARD IF THIS WERE TO BE RETAINED, THIS PRIMARY FACADE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE REPLACEMENT OF COLUMNS AND TIE BEAMS. AND IN THAT EVENT, THE CHLORIDE LEVEL ISSUE DISAPPEARS AND THE VERTICAL CUTS COULD HAPPEN.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? OKAY.
I THINK WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY. THERE'S NOBODY IN LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED. YEAH, THERE IS NO ONE.
NO, NO. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. OH, SORRY. NOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE IN CHAMBERS, SO WE'LL ASK PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
THIS BUILDING IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE LOCALLY DESIGNATED OCEAN BEACH HISTORIC DISTRICT, ONE OF THE EARLIEST AND MOST HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF MIAMI BEACH.
CONSTRUCTED IN 1938, THE PARKSIDE HOTEL REPRESENTS THE TYPE OF MODEST HUMAN SCALE HOTEL THAT DEFINED THE OCEAN BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LATE 1930S AND HELPED SHAPE THE CHARACTER OF WASHINGTON AVENUE. BUILDINGS SUCH AS THIS FORMED THE BACKBONE OF A COMMUNITY THAT WELCOMED EVERYDAY TRAVELERS AND RESIDENTS, OFFERING A MORE ACCESSIBLE AND INTIMATE VERSION OF THE MIAMI BEACH EXPERIENCE. BEYOND THE GRAND OCEANFRONT HOTELS, THE OCEAN BEACH HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY TO PRESERVE THIS STORY.
ITS SIGNIFICANCE LIES NOT ONLY IN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS, BUT IN ITS COLLECTIVE CHARACTER.
CREATED BY THESE SMALLER BUILDINGS AND STREETSCAPES THEY DEFINED.
THE PARKSIDE HOTEL. THIS BUILDING STILL CLEARLY EXPRESSES ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN.
ITS TWO STORY SCALE, FLAT ROOFLINE, BALANCED FACADE, AND RESTRAINED ART DECO DETAILING REMAIN INTACT AND CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL RHYTHM AND PEDESTRIAN CHARACTER OF WASHINGTON AVENUE.
THE BUILDING IS A QUIET BUT ESSENTIAL PART OF THE DISTRICT'S HISTORIC FABRIC.
ALLOWING DEMOLITION IN THIS CASE WOULD ESTABLISH A DEEPLY TROUBLING PRECEDENT IF CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS CAN BE REMOVED SIMPLY TO ACCOMMODATE NEW AMENITIES OR OPEN SPACE FOR ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. THE LONG TERM INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE DEMOLITION OF THIS BUILDING WOULD THEREFORE REPRESENT AN UNNECESSARY AND AVOIDABLE LOSS OF AN HISTORIC BUILDING THAT CONTINUES TO CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO THE CHARACTER OF WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THE OCEANFRONT HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND FOR THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DENY THE DEMOLITION REQUEST.
AND IF I COULD JUST HAVE 20 MORE SECONDS. THANK YOU.
THE ISSUE OF PRECEDENCE CAME UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S WATCHED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS, APPLICANTS CANNOT DEFINE WHO USES SOMETHING AS A PRECEDENT IN A FUTURE CASE, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD CANNOT DEFINE TO USE WHO CITES SOMETHING AS PRECEDENT.
IT'S UP TO FUTURE APPLICANTS TO SAY, WELL, TWO YEARS AGO, LAST MONTH, TEN YEARS AGO YESTERDAY, THIS BOARD, THE OTHER BOARD APPROVED THIS VERY THING.
SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS, YOU ARE SETTING PRECEDENT.
AND IT IS IT IS THE DETERMINATION OF A FUTURE APPLICANT TO MAKE TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT COUNTS.
PHILOSOPHICALLY, LIKE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. REPLICATIONS ARE SOMETIMES NECESSARY.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE CASES. WE STILL HAVE THE BUILDING.
THANK YOU. I'LL NOW SORRY. WE HAVE TWO CALLERS ON THE LINE NOW.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. THE FIRST IS BECKY CLASS. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I WILL. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU'RE GIVING TO THIS APPLICATION.
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AND I COMMENTED TWO MEETINGS AGO AS A, AS A NEIGHBOR ALREADY, AND ALSO AS A PARENT OF A CHILD AT BASE CAMP.BUT TODAY I, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD ONE POINT FROM MY LEGAL BACKGROUND BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING, THE ARGUMENT OF PRECEDENT SETTING, COMING, COMING BACK AND BEFORE MOVING HERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING HISTORIC FABRIC.
AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE BOARD'S CONCERN ABOUT SETTING A BAD PRECEDENT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID OF SETTING SETTING A BAD PRECEDENT.
I BELIEVE THIS CASE CAN BE DECIDED VERY NARROWLY WITHOUT OPENING THE DOOR TOO WIDELY.
THEY HAVE A, THERE'S A CLEAR EDUCATIONAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOL NEEDS OUTDOOR SPACE AND A SPORTS FIELD FOR THE CHILDREN TO BE A REAL SCHOOL AND TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY PROPERLY. THERE IS NO PRIVATE COMMERCIAL UPSIDE IN THE WAY THERE WOULD BE WITH A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH CASES SIMILAR TO THIS GRANTED IN BELGIUM, BUT I THINK IT APPLIES HERE TOO, THE SAFEGUARD AGAINST A BAD PRECEDENT IS NOT RIGIDITY.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT OF THIS CASE. A NOT FOR PROFIT SCHOOL, A CLEAR EDUCATIONAL NEED, A MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY BENEFITS OUTDOOR AND GREEN SPACE FOR CHILDREN AND NO PRIVATE COMMERCIAL UPSIDE.
SO I REALLY RESPECTFULLY THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP.
THANK YOU. LAST CALLER IS KEITH. KEITH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. KEITH MARKS, 50, SOUTH POINTE DRIVE, ALSO PRESIDENT OF SOFTNESS.
SOFTNESS STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE APPLICANT. WE DO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE HISTORIC BOARD.
I AGREE WITH THE LAST PERSON. WE GOT THERE NEEDS TO BE.
AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING AT TIMES A REASONABLENESS TEST, GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY VERSUS SAVING A HISTORIC BUILDING. SUPPOSEDLY HISTORIC BUILDING THAT WAS LAST.
A YOUTH HOSTEL IN HORRIBLE CONDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN.
BUT THIS IS WHY THERE'S LIVE LOCAL. IF YOU START PLAYING GAMES AND TAKING PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO GOOD BUILDING EDUCATION, HAVING A PLAYGROUND AND AND MAKING UNREASONABLE DEMANDS OF DEMOLITION OF A BUILDING THAT WILL DISINTEGRATE WHEN THEY GET TO THAT FRONT FACADE.
THAT'S WHY LIVE LOCAL PASSED. PLEASE USE REASON AND LOGIC AND ALLOW EXCEPTIONS WHILE STILL SUPPORTING THOSE BUILDINGS THAT DO ADD VALUE AND CAN BE SAVED.
THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE ONLINE CALLERS.
SO I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE BOARD.
HASKELL. MR. SAVAGE, CAN WE GET YOUR ENGINEER ON THE LINE? YES. YES. WHAT'S HIS NAME? HIS NAME IS YUSUF HAKIM.
DO YOU KNOW IF HE'S ONLINE WITH A DIFFERENT CALL NAME? OR IF YOU CAN RAISE HIS HAND IF HE'S ONLINE? YEAH, WE'RE TEXTING HIM RIGHT NOW.
MADAM CHAIR, WHILE WE'RE FINDING OUR ENGINEER MAYBE I COULD USE MY TIME WISELY JUST A LITTLE BIT.
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AND FOR JUST TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.GO AHEAD. YEAH, SURE. SO FIRSTLY, I WANT TO SAY THAT UNLIKE THE PRIOR APPLICANT, WE HAVE THE FULL THROATED SUPPORT OF THE SOUTH OF FIFTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHO WROTE A LETTER IN OUR RECORD AND WHO JUST CALLED IN THROUGH THEIR PRESIDENT.
SO WE DO HAVE BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT, AS YOU HEARD.
SECONDLY, A LOT OF LOT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT.
I WAS TRAINED ORIGINALLY AS AN APPELLATE ATTORNEY AND ALL WE DID IS CITE PRIOR CASES AND PRECEDENT.
AND THAT IS A VERY NARROW AND TECHNICAL THING TO DO.
AND I, I RARELY HEAR IT USED IN THIS FORUM. AND AS, AS THE CALLER HALLER EXPLAINED.
EVERY PRESIDENT IS LIMITED TO THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED IN THAT APPLICATION.
SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY RARE FOR A FACT PATTERN LIKE THIS ONE TO REEMERGE.
EXACTLY INVOLVING A EDUCATIONAL USE LIKE THIS.
HAVING SAID THAT, LET ME CHECK ON THE WHEREABOUTS OF OUR ENGINEER.
OKAY. I SEE HIM ONLINE NOW. OKAY, GREAT. YOUSEF, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? YOUSEF, CAN YOU HEAR US? ARE YOU THERE? I USE IF YOU'RE UNMUTED.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? SPRING.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? YOU'RE STILL MUTED. OKAY.
I'M GOOD. THERE YOU GO. WE HEAR YOU NOW. YOUSEF, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. HASKELL. MR.. GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING. I'VE HEARD EVERYONE'S COMMENTS HERE, AND THIS TEAM HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO COME UP WITH MULTIPLE PROPOSALS, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EXHAUSTING EVERY POSSIBLE ATTEMPT TO SAVE THIS FACADE.
MR. HASHIM, IT WOULD OCCUR TO ME THAT A TWO STORY BUILDING LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE THAT CORRIDOR HAVING A LOAD BEARING WALL SUPPORTING THE JOISTS, RUNNING THE FLOOR JOISTS AND THE ROOF. JOYCE RUNNING IN A NORTH SOUTH DIRECTION OF THE BUILDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. IN THAT CASE, THEN, THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE IS NOT RELYING ON THE FLOOR JOISTS TO SUPPORT IT LATERALLY IN AN EAST WEST DIRECTION.
YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN MYSELF.
SURE. THE JOISTS ARE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH AT EVERY FLOOR.
AND THE ROOF. THAT IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, WHEN WE NAILED THE PLYWOOD TO THE JOISTS AND WE NAILED THE PLYWOOD TO THE LEDGERS WE CREATE, WE CREATE THE DIAPHRAGM ON THE BUILDING. WE CREATE.
WE CREATE THE DIAPHRAGM AT THE SECOND FLOOR. WE CREATE THE DIAPHRAGM ON THE ROOF LEVEL.
SO WHEN THAT GOES AWAY, THE DIAPHRAGM GOES AWAY.
AND NOW THAT WESTERN FACADE IS COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED LATERALLY.
SO, SO WHAT YOUR CONTENTION IS THAT THE PLYWOOD SHEATHING, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE JOISTS ARE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH, IS PROVIDING THE LATERAL RESTRAINT FOR THE WALLS IN AN EAST WEST DIRECTION? 100%. FAIR ENOUGH. LET'S SAY I CUT THOSE. LET'S SAY I CUT THAT FLOORING, RIGHT? AND I PROVIDE INTERMITTENT SUPPORT BACK TO THE JOISTS THAT ARE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
NOW, I'VE BRACED THE BUILDING TO ALLOW MODIFICATIONS TO THAT FACADE AT THAT POINT.
YOU CAN INSTALL A FOUNDATION CAP WITH HELICAL PILES WITH MOMENT RESISTING COLUMNS TO SUPPORT THAT FACADE. CAN YOU NOT? AGAIN, I BEG TO OBJECT. BECAUSE THE, WHEN YOU PUT UP FOUNDATIONS WITH HELICAL PILES, HELICAL PILES DO NOT HAVE ANY LATERAL CAPACITY.
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THEY HAVE ZERO CAPACITY. CORRECT. YES. BUT THE MOMENT RESISTING COLUMNS ON TOP OF THE FOOTING WILL HAVE LATERAL CAPACITY.YES. THAT THAT WHEN YOU PUT WHEN YOU PUT A MOMENT ON THE COLUMN AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT MOMENT ON THE FOUNDATION, THAT FOUNDATION NEEDS TO RESIST THAT MOMENT, THAT MOMENT AND, AND, AND YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH HELICAL PILES BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU CAN STAGGER THEM. YOU CAN STAGGER THEM ON THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE OF THE FOOTING.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE HERE WITH YOU.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE A ACCOMPLISHED ENGINEER, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'VE STUDIED IT ENOUGH. AND, AND, AND THAT WAS TO THE POINT OF MY COLLEAGUE HERE, THIS I WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT THE REPLICATION OF THIS WALL.
BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU SAT DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, YOU COULD PENCIL ON THE BACK OF A NAPKIN, A DESIGN THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
WELL, OKAY, THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE NEGLECTED TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN DO FOUNDATIONS OR WE CAN DO TENSION MOMENT COLUMNS AND ALL THAT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT GOES BEHIND THAT EXISTING WALL THAT WE HAVE, THAT EXISTING WALL WE HAVE IS THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT THE CONCRETE MATRIX ITSELF, YOU KNOW, FULL OF SALTS AND WEAK. AND SO THAT BY ITSELF NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT IS BY, YOU KNOW, DEMOLISHING AND REBUILDING IT.
YEAH, THE CONCRETE ITSELF IS VERY WEAK. AND THE RUMORS ARE TRUE THAT AS YOU DO THAT, AS YOU REMOVE THE THE SUPPORT FOR THAT WALL, YOU CAN INFILL THOSE MASONRY CELLS WITH CONCRETE.
OKAY, SO WE COME BACK TO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT ALWAYS HAPPENING DISCUSSION IS THAT, THAT YOU MODIFIED THAT WALL SO MUCH THAT THERE'S NOTHING LEFT IN IT THAT IS ORIGINAL.
NO, SIR, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU INTERMITTENTLY INFILL THOSE MASONRY CELLS, YOU'VE CREATED A FRAME THERE. BUT THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
AND WE'RE HAVING A VERY HARD TIME TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THE CHANGES TO THE TO THE ORIGINAL WALL AND THEN TRY TO PUT THE FRAME BEHIND IT. AND THEN THE FOUNDATIONS FOR IT WASN'T JUST WORKING.
HAVE YOU GONE TO COST WHAT IT WOULD COST TO REPLICATE VIS A VIS VERSUS COST TO RETAIN THE EXISTING FACADE? I DID NOT RUN ANY ANY FINANCIAL COST OR MODELS.
NO, I GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN TO GET.
THANK YOU. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD COMMENTARY? OH. I'M SORRY. DID YOU ASK FOR COMMENTARY OR QUESTIONS? HE HAD ASKED TO ASK A QUESTION OUT OF ORDER. I SAID YES.
SO WE'RE REALLY AT BOARD COMMENTARY. CORRECT DISCUSSION.
I GUESS IF WE GO WITH THE OPTION OF RECREATING AND THERE'S A OPENING IN THE WINDOWS, I WOULD PREFER THERE BE A RESTRICTION THAT THEY DON'T ALLOW ANY STORAGE AT THE FRONT, AND THAT THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP OF THE SIDEWALK TO THE ACTUAL RECREATION AREA.
I THINK FILLING THAT FRONT AREA WITH STORAGE WOULD BE THE WORST THING WE COULD DO, THAT YOU WOULD CREATE THESE BLANK WINDOWS LOOKING AT A STORAGE ROOM AS OPPOSED TO TAKING THE FACADE, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AND LETTING A VIEW INTO THE RECREATION AREA, REALLY EXPANDING THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO I WOULD SAY, NO, IF YOU WANT TO PUT STORAGE ON THAT FIELD, IT'D BE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, CERTAINLY NOT ON THE FRONT FACING THE PUBLIC STREET.
OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE ACTUAL NOW NEW USE OF THE SITE.
SO THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
ON THE BOARD OF MY CHILDREN'S SCHOOL, THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES PUT INTO CREATING LIKE SECURITY, PRIVACY FOR THE OUTDOOR AREAS. IS THAT A CONSIDERATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED, OR DO YOU WANT THIS TO REMAIN OPEN TO PUBLIC VIEW? IF THE KIDS ARE LIKE PLAYING RIGHT BEHIND THE WALL? WELL, WE WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO HAVE LIGHT AND AIR.
RIGHT. SO THAT THEY CAN WHEN THE SCHOOL IS NOT IN USE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CAN SEE LIGHT AND AIR AND, AND THE OPEN AREA BEYOND AND, AND TREES BEYOND THAT.
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SO WE REALLY, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THESE LOUVERS.I MEAN, SO IT WILL SERVE THAT PURPOSE. OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE AN OPERABLE TYPE OF THING.
YEAH. I MEAN, THE, THE SEPARATE AND APART FROM ALL OF THE VERY FINE THINGS THAT EVERYONE HERE IS DISCUSSING CONCERNING THE FACADE AND ITS REPLICATION, ETC.. YEAH. THIS, THIS DEVICE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A FUNCTIONAL.
WE, WE HAVE TO SECURE. YEAH. THE PLAYGROUND FROM JUST BEING OPEN, RIGHT? RIGHT. MADAM CHAIR, I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. HOLLINGWORTH SAID AS PART OF THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY TO KEEP THE OPENNESS INTO THE PROPERTY.
YEAH, WE'LL ADDRESS IT IF WE HAVE TO IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK A GRID OF OPENINGS WOULD BE BETTER THAN THAT.
BUT THAT'S JUST AN OPINION. AND IF YOU WANT TO SUGGEST THAT IT'S SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AS STAFF, WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. MAYBE THERE COULD BE LIKE A PRIVACY SCRIM BEHIND IT OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE A NEED. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER BOARD COMMENTARY? I MEAN, I WOULD JUST ADD COMMENTARY THAT YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE OPTIONS AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO RETAIN THE FACADE, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE, I DO LIKE THE, THE, THE BREEZE BLOCK DESIGN.
BUT IN THAT CASE, IT WOULD BE NOTICEABLE THAT IT'S DIFFERENT.
AND GENERALLY I AGREE WITH, WITH STAFF THAT WE DON'T WANT TO JUST RECONSTRUCT THINGS.
AND I, I VISITED THE THE CARTIER, THE THE LOUIS VUITTON FOUNDATION BUILDING IN PARIS.
AND YOU GO, YOU GO TO IT AND YOU WALK THROUGH A FACADE.
IT'S LIKE A VERY COOL ARCHITECTURAL MOVE. AND THEN ANOTHER BUILDING IS SET BEHIND THAT.
SO I THINK THIS COULD BE LIKE A REALLY INTERESTING THING, EVEN AS A KIND OF STANDALONE FACADE THAT THAT HONORS THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES HERE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE BOARD COMMENTARY QUESTION? ASSUMING EITHER RETENTION OR REPLICATION, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO TREAT THE WINDOW OPENINGS? IS THAT THE LOUVER VENT YOU WERE REFERRING TO? AND IS THAT SOMETHING STEPH WOULD. HELLO, I'M RYAN ALDERMAN.
THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD. ARE WE REFERRING TO THE FIRST OR THE BREECHBLOCK DESIGN? NO. EACH OTHER. A REPLICATION OR THE RETENTION OF THE INITIAL FACADE.
THE IDEA WAS TO KEEP IT AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW FOR AIR FLOW.
SO THE UPPER WINDOWS WERE TO BE LEFT OPEN. THE CIRCLE AT THE TOP IS ACTUALLY A PAINTED CIRCLE, BUT WE OPTED TO OPEN IT COMPLETELY TO ALLOW MORE AIRFLOW TO COME THROUGH.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS IS A PLAYGROUND. IT'S THE MORE AIR AND LIGHT THAT GETS THROUGH THIS STREET FACADE, THE BETTER. OKAY, SO SO THAT'S THE SECOND LEVEL.
NOT NECESSARILY LOUVERS, BUT HORIZONTAL SLATS.
THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY HAS ROUND POST PICKETED POSTS AS THEIR FENCE.
THE. THE DESIGN WITHOUT ANY STRUCTURE. WE'RE CARRYING THAT ACROSS THE FACADE OF THIS BUILDING.
TO DO HORIZONTAL SLATS. STAFF. MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON WHERE ARE WE NOW IN TERMS OF THE THE PATH WE'RE GOING? IF IT WERE EITHER RETENTION OR RECONSTRUCTION, HOW WOULD YOU TREAT THE
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FENESTRATION, THE WINDOW? I THINK YOU WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T PUT WINDOWS THERE. RIGHT. WELL THEY THEY WANT AIR.THEY WANT LIGHT. RIGHT. YEAH. YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GLAZING I THINK, OR IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO I DON'T KNOW, IT'S AN ODD SITUATION.
MAYBE YOU DO LIKE SOME SORT OF GRID PATTERN OR MESH.
EXACTLY. IT'S MORE OPEN. CAN THEY PUT THE ELEVATION BACK UP? OF OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, EITHER RETENTION OR REPLICATION.
I THOUGHT I SAW HORIZONTAL LOUVERS ON THE DOORS AND WINDOWS THAT ALL LOOK THE SAME.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOW. THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF OPPOSING TO THAT IT SEEMED SORT OF AN ARBITRARY SELECTION OF THE FACADE TREATMENT, AS OPPOSED TO HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE BUILDING, THE STYLE OF CHARACTER, THE ARCHITECTURE.
IT MIMICS THE BANDS AT THE UPPER LEVEL, BUT JUST AT A SMALLER SCALE IN ORDER TO PREVENT PEOPLE.
DO YOU HAVE THE AND WE UPSTAIRS. CAN WE PLEASE.
THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. JUST. SO THAT WAS THE INTENT.
YEAH. TO MIMIC THE HORIZONTAL BANDING. YEAH. I GUESS OKAY.
IF YOU DO IT AT THAT SCALE, THERE'S NO. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WINDOWS ON THE WHOLE FIRST FLOOR.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. HAS THIS REALLY DATED LOOK TO IT WITH WITH THAT, DO YOU THINK, IS IT GOING TO BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE KIDS TRYING TO CLIMB THOSE LOUVERS AND, YOU KNOW, DAMAGING THEM PLAYGROUND.
SO MR. HOLLINGWORTH WOULD BE UP YOUR SUGGESTIONS IF YOU WANT A MORE GRID.
AND THEN I HEAR THEY COULD TILT SO THEY BLOCK THEM COMPLETELY, WHICH I FIND EVEN WORSE THAN THIS.
IF YOU HAVE TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF SCREEN FOR SECURITY BEHIND IT, BUT NOT TO CLOSE UP THE STREET FACADE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE THE IMAGE KIND OF JUST KIND OF BLOWS ME AWAY AS IT'S A METAL GRID THAT HAS SOME DEPTH TO IT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A CHAIN LINK, IT'S JUST YEAH, A GRID THAT'S GOT DEPTH.
EXACTLY. SO ON AN ANGLE, YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T SEE THROUGH IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK STRAIGHT THROUGH.
SO IT'S A BOX GRID OF SOME SORT WHICH GIVES YOU MORE PRIVACY AND YOU KNOW.
YES. DO YOU MIND PUTTING UP THE RENDERING OF A VERSION OF THAT? AND IT LOOKED NOT VERY, I MEAN, IT'S THOSE OPENINGS JUST POP EVEN MORE.
IT'S. WELL, YOU'LL HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO IMPROVE IT. NOW, WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING UP THE RENDERING OF THE BREEZE BLOCK AS WELL? SURE. YES. PERHAPS ONE NEXT. THIS ONE OR ANOTHER ONE.
IS THAT DEPRESSED WHEN I SEE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
BORDERLINE BETWEEN MEXICO AND THE UNITED STATES.
EVERYBODY OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL RECONSTRUCT.
THIS WOULD BE THE BREEZE BLOCK RENDERING. YES, SIR.
CORRECT. IT'S TOO SMALL. IT WAS BIGGER, BUT SMALL.
UNDERSTOOD. WE'RE HAPPY TO RECONSTRUCT. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTARY? AND IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION. I DON'T RECALL IF WE DID.
BOARD DISCLOSURES. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR. WERE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? YOU DID ASK.
WE DID. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO COMMENTARY OR MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I EXPECT IT TO FAIL, BUT HERE GOES.
TO RETAIN THE EXISTING FACADE AND DEMOLISH THE REMAINDER OF THE STRUCTURE.
COULD I OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF IT CAN'T BE RETAINED? ARE YOU OKAY WITH RECONSTRUCTION? I DON'T BUY THE ARGUMENT.
ALL IT TAKES IS A LITTLE EFFORT. AND OF COURSE, IT COULD BE RETAINED.
AND WHAT IF IT FAILS? WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OOPS FACTOR THAT THAT COULD BE DELIBERATE.
THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE IN ITSELF. YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE BOARD IN THIS CASE REQUIRE A PERFORMANCE BOND? YOU KNOW I BELIEVE IN GOOD FAITH AND GOODWILL.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CALL ME A PURIST, BUT AS STAFF ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WHEN YOU RECONSTRUCT, YOU CREATE A FALSE NARRATIVE. WE ARE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
THE BUILDING EXISTS. AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PLAY OUR ROLE AS EXPECTED.
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I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ROLL CALL. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. IS THAT ACCEPTED? WHAT WAS THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? IT CANNOT BE MAINTAINED, COULD BE RECONSTRUCTED.
I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T INCLUDE THAT. IT'S HARD FOR STAFF THEN TO TO TAKE THE BRUNT OF THAT.
LET THEM COME BACK. SO THIS WILL BE TO TO LEAVE THE FACADE AS IT IS.
RIGHT. I GUESS WOULD WOULD MODIFY THE, THE WINDOW OPENINGS AS WE'VE SUGGESTED RETAINING THE STRUCTURE AS IT IS, BUT MODIFYING IT WITH THE, WITH THE THE GRID WITH THE DEPTH FOR BOTH THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR FACADE WITH THOSE THAT OPENING.
IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE OPENINGS? YES. OKAY. SO MR. HOLLINGWORTH NO MISS CAMARGO SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE VOTING TO RETAIN THAT SYSTEM.
RIGHT. WE NEED YOUR MIC. YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE.
WE ARE VOTING TO RETAIN THE EXISTING FACILITY.
CORRECT? NO, MR. MEYER. YES, MISS LOVELL? NO. MR. SHELBY. NO. MR. NOVICK. YES. THE MOTION FAILS.
DID YOU EVER ASK ME? YEAH. YOU DIDN'T ASK, RAY.
I'M SORRY, MR. BRESLIN. NO, SORRY. I'LL MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FRONT FACADE. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT WITH AN AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE A VIEW BY THE STAFF OF THE TREATMENT OF THE GROUND FLOOR OPENINGS, DOORS AND WINDOWS, AND HOPEFULLY RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE BOARD.
RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE LOUVERS AS PART OF THE RECONSTRUCTION, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE DIRECTION HERE IS THE, THE, THE GRID, THE GRID PATTERN FOR THE THE OPENINGS.
RIGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT A LITTLE FLEXIBLE.
YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IF I MAY, I THINK IF I, I'LL RESTATE THE MOTION.
AND THE SECOND WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS THAT APPROVING THE FOURTH OPTION, THE RECONSTRUCTION WITH THE TREATMENT OF THE EXISTING OPENINGS TO NOT BE THE HORIZONTAL SLATS, LOUVERS, HOWEVER YOU'RE REFERRING TO THEM.
AND THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED WITH STAFF. DOES THAT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AND YES.
YEAH. I MEAN, THERE ARE MANY BUILDINGS OF THIS PERIOD THAT ACTUALLY HAD WROUGHT IRON ON ON THE FRONT, AND YOU JUST PUT THE WROUGHT IRON OUT AND JUST NOT HAVE ANY WINDOWS. AND THAT SERVES THE SAME, SAME PURPOSE. STOPS, STOPS. MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT HAS A 1960S LOOK OF OVER SECURITY.
THE BARS TRY TO GET RID OF. WE DON'T ALLOW SECURITY BARS ON WINDOWS ANY LONGER.
SO BUT BUT WE DO. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND I BELIEVE A SECOND ON THE TABLE.
SO I THINK WHO WAS THE SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY.
SO I'LL DO A ROLL CALL THEN, MR. HOLLINGWORTH.
YES. MR.. BRESLIN. YES. MR. MEYER. YES. MR.. SHELBY.
YES. MISS CAMARGO. YES. MISS LOVELL. YES. MR..
NOVICK. NO. MOTION PASSES. MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK FOR JUST A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING? THE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VARIANCE. LET'S TAKE A SECOND.
LET'S TAKE A SECOND. A SECOND MOTION ON THE VARIANCE.
RIGHT. WE'RE WE'RE YEAH. BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS A RECONSTRUCTION.
WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IT TO THE SIDEWALK.
SO WE NEED A MOTION ON THE VARIANCE. MR. BRESLIN A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY.
MR.. HOW FAR BACK ARE YOU MOVING IT. HOW FAR FORWARD ARE YOU MOVING IT NOW? BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, LEAVING IT AT THE SAME PLACE, DIDN'T WE ORIGINALLY.
RIGHT. SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY 24IN FROM THE FRONT OF THE SIDEWALK.
OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT AT THAT LOCATION? WANTS TO MOVE IT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. EXCUSE ME.
SO THOSE 24IN NOWADAYS, WHAT ARE THEY? THEY ARE LANDSCAPED.
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NOW. REMEMBER THAT THERE'S A SIDEWALK. THERE MAY BE A PLANTER THERE OR SOMETHING.THERE'S A LITTLE. IT'S JUST THE SIDEWALK. IT'S UNIMPROVED.
TO THE FRONT. PROPERTY LINE? YES. SECOND, MR. GELPI, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED.
MOTION PASSES 6 TO 1. THANK YOU FOR THE THREE AND A HALF HEARINGS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS, MICHAEL. SO THE LAST APPLICATION SHOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY COMPARED TO THE ONES WE JUST HAD. MUCH EASIER. WHY DID WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE AIR? WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THEM FIRST I KNOW. SO THIS LAST ITEM IS HPV 260687 FOR 716 TO 720 LINCOLN ROAD.
[4. HPB26-0687, 716-720 LINCOLN ROAD.]
THE THE SUBJECT BUILDING IS A ONE STORY CONTRIBUTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED IN 1936 AND DESIGNED BY VICTOR ELLENBOGEN.THE WORK INCLUDES REMOVAL OF EXISTING KNEE WALLS AND A NONSTRUCTURAL INTERIOR PARTITION.
THE EXISTING TERRAZZO FLOORING PATTERN AT THE THRESHOLDS IS TO BE RETAINED IN ALL HISTORIC UPPER FACADE FEATURES, INCLUDING HORIZONTAL BANDING AND CHEVRON MOTIFS WILL BE RETAINED.
NO WORK IS PROPOSED WITHIN THE EASTERN BAY, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO INCLUDING A FUTURE REQUIREMENT THAT THE EASTERN BAY AS A TENANT CHANGES, OR THEY COME BACK TO THE CITY WITH A PERMIT FOR INTERIOR BUILD OUT THAT THEY MATCH THE STOREFRONT THAT THE BOARD IS APPROVING AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
WITH THAT, THE I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD TO STAFF.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, MR. LARKIN CAN WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION? GREAT. THANK YOU. SO GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR.
JOSE GOMEZ IS OUR ARCHITECT. STEVEN IS OUR PRESERVATION CONSULTANT.
THESE PARTICULAR STOREFRONTS IN CENTRAL AND WESTERN BAYS HAVE STOOD EMPTY SINCE 2014.
IT FOCUSED UPON THE STOREFRONTS ON LINCOLN ROAD AND THEIR EVOLUTION.
AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT OUR OWNERSHIP TEAM OF RUSSO EQUITIES AND LINE DEVELOPMENT, WHO ARE SPENDING LITERALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ACQUIRING DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT LINCOLN ROAD AND IMPROVING THEM.
NEXT SLIDE. THE PROPERTY HAS CD THREE ZONING.
THE CD THREE ZONING IS UNIQUE IN THE CITY IN THAT IT APPLIES TO THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS OF LINCOLN ROAD, ARTHUR GODFREY AND 71ST STREET. NEXT SLIDE. WE ARE IN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT OF FLAMINGO PARK.
VICTOR ELLENBOGEN WAS THE ARCHITECT HERE. HE WAS ALSO THE ARCHITECT OF THE STERLING BUILDING.
HE MADE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE STERLING FROM A MED REVIVAL BUILDING TO AN ART DECO BUILDING.
HE DID THE OLMEC APARTMENTS OWNED BY MEL SCHLESSER.
HE ALSO DID THE SAVOY HOTEL, OWNED BY ERIC HOLDER.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS OUR REQUEST THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
NOTE THAT THE EASTERN BAY IS FULLY OCCUPIED AND LEASED OUT.
NEXT SLIDE. ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE TERRAZZO FLOORING WHICH WE WILL PRESERVE.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.
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THE DECO PODGE HAS A MULTIPLICITY OF DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.WHAT'S EXCITING ABOUT LINCOLN ROAD NOW IS THAT IT'S COMING BACK, AND THAT YOU ALL ARE THE STEWARDS.
YOU'RE THE GUARDIANS OF AT LEAST 90% OF LINCOLN ROAD.
THEIR NIKE STORE IS BOOMING. APPLE STORE IS BOOMING.
NEXT MONTH, YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER AN ASSEMBLAGE PURCHASE BY MICHAEL KAMRAS.
A FEW MONTHS AGO, HE'S CHRISTENED IT KNOWLES.
HE'LL BE BEFORE YOU, LOOKING AT SEVEN BUILDINGS THAT HE INTENDS TO, YOU KNOW, RE-ENERGIZE, WHICH HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS.
THEN YOU HAVE THIS PROPERTY, THEN YOU HAVE A SOUL BUILDING NEXT TO THE CHURCH.
IT'S GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT USE. SO LINCOLN ROAD IS ON THE UPSWING.
THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT NEED SOME EXTRA HELP.
THANK YOU MICHAEL. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. STEVE, PRINCIPAL OF HERITAGE ARCHITECTURAL ASSOCIATES, 4300 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD. WE HAD THE PLEASURE TO DO A REVIEW OF THE STOREFRONT AND ANALYSIS OF THOSE ON LINCOLN ROAD, AS WELL AS THIS BUILDING. AS A GENERAL RULE, STOREFRONTS ARE REVIEWED SEPARATELY FROM THE UPPER PART OF THE BUILDINGS.
AS THEY'VE EVOLVED, THEY TEND TO EVOLVE MORE OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY YOU KNOW, THE AS THINGS AND STYLES EVOLVE, THE STOREFRONTS ARE CHANGED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DESIRABLE MARKETING CONDITIONS FOR THE STORE OWNERS.
IN FACT, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR THE TREATMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES NOTES THAT STOREFRONTS ARE TYPICALLY ALTERED MORE THAN ANY OTHER BUILDING FEATURE TO REFLECT THE LATEST ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND UP TO DATE TO ATTRACT THE CUSTOMERS.
SO 7167 20 LINCOLN ROAD IS IS EMBLEMATIC OF THAT.
IT'S EVOLVED OVER TIME. I THINK THAT, IN MY OPINION HERE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL APPEARANCE, WILL IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING AND ENHANCE ITS FUNCTIONALITY.
ACCORDING TO THE BOOK GUIDING DESIGN ON MAIN STREET, LARGE STOREFRONT DISPLAY WINDOWS BLUR THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND THE PRIVATE SHOP SPACE, MAKING A MORE INVITING SPACE FOR CUSTOMERS TO WANDER IN.
WE'VE GOT NINE, NINE, 18, 932 LINCOLN ROAD. YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE INCLUSION OF ADDITIONAL STOREFRONT AND GLAZING TO EVOLVE THAT BUILDING NEXT. 607611 LINCOLN ROAD ON THE LEFT WE HAD AN ARCHED, POINTED, ARCHED ELEMENT FOR THE STOREFRONT THERE. RECTILINEAR STOREFRONT ON THE RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW 605 LINCOLN ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE EASTERN FACADE ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER.
THERE WAS A SOLID FACADE WITH PUNCHED INDIVIDUAL OPENINGS.
THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT DEPICTS THE MODIFICATIONS THAT OCCURRED TO THE STOREFRONT, WHERE THERE'S INCREASED GLAZING AND AN ADDITIONAL ENTRANCE ON THE CORNER. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THE STOREFRONT REALLY UNIFIES THE FACADE.
THE REVISIONS WERE UNDERTAKEN HERE. HERE WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY 7167 20.
YOU CAN SEE THE MICROFICHE PLANT IMAGE ON THE LEFT, WHICH SHOWS THE TRIPARTITE DIVISION OF BAYS WITH RECESSED ENTRANCES, WHICH HAD THE ORNAMENTAL TERRAZZO, WHICH MICHAEL REFERENCED THERE.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE UNDERTOOK THIS RESEARCH, WE UNCOVERED SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHOWED THAT IN FACT, THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AS IT WAS DEPICTED ON THE MICROFICHE DOCUMENTS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM 1936 WHEN THE BUILDING WAS OPENED.
YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURAL GLAZING SYSTEM WAS UTILIZED IN WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE DOCUMENTS.
WE'VE GOT HORIZONTAL BANDING, BLACK GLAZING AND VERTICALLY VERTICAL PIERS THAT HAVE ZIGGURAT TOPS ON THEM, BUT THAT DIDN'T LAST LONG. 25 YEARS LATER, THE FACADE WAS CHANGED AGAIN.
HERE WE CAN SEE THAT OCCURRED IN 1961, SO THE PREVIOUS FACADE ONLY EXISTED 25 YEARS.
ADDITIONALLY, DURING THIS ERA, THE EASTERN BAY STOREFRONT WAS RENOVATED.
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THE EVOLUTION OF THE BUILDING CONTINUED IN 1971.THE HORIZONTAL BANDING IS NO LONGER EVIDENT AND THE VERTICAL PIERS AREN'T THERE. SO BY 2003 OR 2005, WE SEE THAT THE DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS INCORPORATED AND CONSTRUCTED.
SO ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION TO THE LIFE OF THIS BUILDING.
SO HERE WE ARE TODAY. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. WE CAN SEE THE BAYS THAT ARE MARKED.
SO IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THE BUILDING HAS CHANGED SO SIGNIFICANTLY AND DRASTICALLY OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, THERE'S NO ADVERSE EFFECT, IN MY OPINION, UPON THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING, AND THEREFORE WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO JOSE GOMEZ.
HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN, JOSE GOMEZ GOMEZ, ARCHITECT.
MUCH SIMPLER PROJECT. ACTUALLY WE'RE WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO DEMOLISH THE FACADE HERE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS VERY SIMPLE. IS THE CENTRAL AND WESTERN FACADE.
WE'RE ALIGNING IT WITH THE EASTERN FACADE SETTING IT BACK THREE FEET WHICH IS WHAT'S REQUIRED IN ORDER TO HAVE OUR DOORS SWINGING OUT. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SWING THE DOORS OUT INTO LINCOLN ROAD.
WE'RE LOCATING THE DOORS EXACTLY WHERE THEY USED TO BE.
WE'RE RESPECTING THE TILE PATTERNS NOT TILE. I'M SORRY, THE TERRAZZO FINISH.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TERRAZZO WILL WILL REMAIN IS JUST ONE VERY SIMPLE MINIMALIST FACADE WITH A KNEE WALL TALKING TO A STAFF. I THINK THAT WAS THEIR PREFERENCE.
AND HISTORICALLY THE BUILDING HAD THAT KNEE WALL.
SO WE'RE PUTTING BACK THE 12 INCH KNEE WALL THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS JUST AN ELEVATION OF IT. YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP HOW WE RECONFIGURING THE, THE, THE ONES, THE EXISTING VERSUS THE, AT THE BOTTOM, THE NEW STOREFRONTS THIS IS THE EXISTING TERRAZZO PATTERN.
AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE TERRAZZO AND PUTTING THE DOORS IN THE SAME LOCATIONS AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE. AND THIS IS A CLOSE UP RENDERING OF THE THE TWO AREAS THAT WE'RE INTERVENING.
AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. JOSE. SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING, THEY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT AS MUCH AS YOU ALL ARE STEWARDS OF LINCOLN ROAD.
SITTING HERE, THEY ARE OUT IN THE TRENCHES EVERY DAY TRYING TO IMPROVE LINCOLN ROAD.
SO IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? RANDY. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THE DOORS WERE ORIGINALLY, WHERE THEY ARE NOW, AND WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THEM.
YOU SAID YOU'RE PUTTING THEM EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE.
SAME. WELL, SAME LOCATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATION.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE FROM THE SIDEWALK, THREE FEET.
THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD. THEY'RE GOING TO BE THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE ORIGINAL DOORS DISPLAYED THE TERRAZZO FLOOR PATTERN COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY.
BUT NOW THEY DO NOT. THEY CUT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE TERRAZZO. CORRECT.
BUT WE'RE STILL KEEPING THAT TERRAZZO. SO I UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN YOU'RE TAKING THE EXISTING SIDE WING KIND OF PROJECTIONS THAT ARE THERE NOW AND MOVING THEM, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL. I THINK WE'RE MOVING THEM SO THAT THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH THE FACADE.
BUT THE ORIGINAL DID HAVE A JOGGING EFFECT OF THE ENTIRE CORRECT.
TYPICAL RECESS. HISTORIC. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO. SO IN EFFECT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS PROVIDING TWO LESS SPACES FOR UNHOUSED PEOPLE TO SLEEP.
IT DOES HAPPEN. IT DOES. MITCH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION TO JOSE AND THE HISTORIC
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RESOURCE REPORT. NO, THE YOU STEVE, IS YOUR NAME, RIGHT? STEVE, YOU REFERENCED THE BLACK GLAZING. WAS THAT A VITROLITE? WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MATERIAL WAS, BUT IT WAS A PRODUCT.IT WAS A STRUCTURAL GLAZING, LIKE A VITROLITE OR CARRARA GLASS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT LOOKED LIKE SEPHORA LOOKS NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
YEAH. AND THE CAMEO THEATER AND THE ASTOR HOTEL.
YEAH. JOSE, WHAT COLOR IS YOUR MULLION? ON THIS.
IS IT ANODIZED OR IS IT. IT'S GOT TO BE ANODIZED.
TYPICALLY ANODIZED. ALL RIGHT. I WISH WE KNEW MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT BLACK GLAZING WAS.
IT WAS INTERESTING. HAVE YOU EXPLORED RECREATING THAT.
IS THERE. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT A LITTLE BIT. IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT'S UNUSUAL SITUATION WHERE THE MICROFILM DRAWINGS SHOW ONE VERSION THAT THE OWNER PICKED UP ON IN 2005 AND RENOVATING THE FRONT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT STEVE FOUND, HE FOUND THAT THE MICROFILM DRAWINGS WEREN'T FOLLOWED AT ALL.
THAT INSTEAD THERE WAS A NEW FACADE. IT'S VERY INTERESTING FACADE.
WE'VE GIVEN IT SOME THOUGHT, BUT HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT MUCH.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE PIZZA RUSTICA ON WASHINGTON, THE HOSTEL THAT HAD THAT FIRE.
THE LAMAR HOSTEL. ANOTHER HOHAUSER BUILDING. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
AND IF I WAS, I WAS KIND OF FLIPPING THROUGH THE MATERIALS, MAKING SURE I DIDN'T MISS THIS.
TELL ME ABOUT THE WHY IS THIS A TENANT REQUEST? IS THIS A WHAT'S WHAT'S THE IMPETUS BEHIND CHANGING AT THE STOREFRONT AND ELIMINATING THOSE BAYS? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THAT. SURE.
GO AHEAD. JOSE. OKAY. AGE BEFORE BEAUTY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.
PLEASE. NO NEED TO FIGHT WHOEVER WANTS TO TELL ME.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF ADA, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO DO OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT OTHER MEANS TO TO BE ABLE TO RESPECT THE ADA.
THE DOORS DON'T HAVE THE, THE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE.
SO THAT THAT'S USUALLY THAT'S WHAT WE ALL START.
THE REST IS JUST CLEANING UP THAT ENTIRE BUILDING.
WE DONE THIS BEFORE IN OTHER BUILDINGS ALONG LINCOLN ROAD WHERE IN THE OLD DAYS THAT, THAT FACADE THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T LEND THEMSELVES TO TODAY'S MERCHANDIZING. RIGHT. SO NOW BY PUSHING IT FORWARD AND JUST DOING A VERY CLEAN, MINIMALIST FACADE, NOW YOU CAN USE THE WHOLE FACADE AS MERCHANDIZING SPACES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS APPLICATION IS SORT OF EVOLVED OVER THE OVER TIME.
IT WAS ACTUALLY LOWER. SO IN THIS REGARD, IF THEY WERE JUST PUTTING BACK THE STOREFRONT RECESS WHERE IT WAS, IT WOULDN'T COME BEFORE YOU BECAUSE WE FOUND EVIDENCE THAT THE STORE WAS LOWER, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING IT CLOSER, CLOSER TO LINCOLN ROAD THAT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, REVIEW BY THE BOARD.
BUT WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF IT BECAUSE THE DEEP RECESSES AND THE HIGH KNEE WALL IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TYPICAL FOR YOU KNOW, MODERN RETAIL. MERCHANDIZING. YEAH. AND MADAM CHAIR YOU KNOW, THESE SPACES I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HAVE BEEN EMPTY SINCE 2014. AND LINCOLN ROAD IN LARGE PART IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY BOOMING AGAIN, BUT IT'S COMING BACK IN A VERY STRONG WAY.
AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO LEASE THESE SPACES.
NOW LIKE THE SPACE OF THE ON THE EAST, THAT BAY IS LEASED.
IT HAS A MORE FLAT STOREFRONT. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVIDENCE TO, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS RIGHT NOW THAT THAT EASTERN STOREFRONT DOES NOT HAVE THE TERRAZZO, RIGHT? SO IF, IF THAT, IF THAT IT DOES ON THE DRAWINGS, DOES IT.
OKAY. I ASSUME IT'S STILL THERE BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED.
YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S COVERED UP. IT'S, THERE'S NO TERRAZZO FLOORS.
AND WE WILL DO THAT. THAT'S FINE. I'M SORRY, BUT THE DRAWING SHOWS A PTEROSAUR.
YEAH, THAT'S WHY I WAS DRAWING YOU GUYS. PROVIDED.
IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE SP 100, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FROM THE ORIGINAL.
THAT'S NOT MEANT TO BE DONE NOW. THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
THEN AS AS LUCIA SAID, IN THE FUTURE, THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.
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NO, NO, NO, IT DOESN'T EXIST. YEAH, I THOUGHT IT EXISTED, TOO, BASED ON THAT.OKAY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN THE EAST BAY WAS REDONE? SO THE STEVE WILL ADDRESS THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY PROPERTY HAS A BUILDING CARD THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT FROM THE DAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED UNTIL 1988, UNTIL THEY SWITCHED TO A MORE DIGITAL SYSTEM.
AND THERE ARE NOTATIONS IN THE BUILDING CARD. I'LL LET STEVE ADDRESS THAT.
SO THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF IN 1961. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
IT'S A CONCRETE CONCRETE FINISH. IT'S BLUE IN THE RENDERINGS.
I'M TRYING TO. IS IT TERRAZZO? NO, IT'S NOT TERRAZZO.
IT'S A CONCRETE FINISH THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PAINTED, PAINTED CONCRETE.
BUT YOU'RE KEEPING THE TROUSER IN THE CENTER. WE WILL KEEP IT.
THANK YOU. RAY, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? SO REALLY, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS WITH THE CENTER BAY.
AND THE WEST BAY IS MATCHING WITH THE EAST BAY ALREADY IS CORRECT.
SIMPLY SIMILAR. ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO THE NEW DOORS THAT ARE THREE FEET SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE TERRAZZO. WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR. BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO RESTORE THE TERRAZZO IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR PROTECTING? PROTECTING THE TROUSERS THAT'S THERE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIXTURES INTO THE TERRAZZO.
WELL THE TERRAZZO IS TYPICALLY REFINISH HERE THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA.
TERRAZZO IS REDONE. AND WE GOT TO HAVE A THRESHOLD.
SO WE GOT TO HAVE A THRESHOLD OVER IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. OR DISCLOSURES. JUST GO SEE IT I DID GO AND SEE IT IN PERSON. OKAY. I'M OPEN TO COMMENTARY.
MEG. STILL MORNING. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. MEG LOUSTEAU, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE. WE CONCUR WITH STAFF THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE A COMPATIBLE ALTERATION TO THE EXISTING STOREFRONTS, AND A SENSITIVE ADAPTATION THAT RESPONDS TO THE CONTEMPORARY RETAIL EXPERIENCE.
WE ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THE USE OF NEAR-FULL GLASS DOORS, WHICH HELPS KEEP VISUALLY INTACT THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC OF THE TERRAZZO PATTERN AT THE ENTRYWAYS AND CONVEYS THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT AND THE PROPOSED ONE.
THANK YOU. THERE'S NOBODY ON THE LINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.
GOOD MORNING. ANNABELLE YOVICH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR LINCOLN ROAD.
I HAVE TO SAY, I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT LINCOLN ROAD COMING BACK.
AND THE TRUTH IS, WE ARE COMING BACK AND WE'RE COMING BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.
AND SO THIS ENHANCEMENT TO THIS STOREFRONT, I THINK IS WARRANTED TO WHERE LINCOLN ROAD IS GOING AND WHAT TENANTS WE NEED TO ATTRACT, AND HAVING THESE BEAUTIFUL WINDOWS HAVING MORE CLARITY IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE AN ASSET FOR THE LANDLORD TO ATTRACT THE RIGHT TENANTS.
SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY BEHIND THIS PROJECT. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT HAPPENING HOPEFULLY SOON ON EUCLID OVAL, AND THAT ITSELF IS GOING TO BE ENHANCED AND BEAUTIFIED AND MOVE FORWARD INTO WHAT LINCOLN ROAD IS BECOMING. SO I THANK THE BOARD FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND HOPEFULLY IT'S A GO.
THANK YOU. ANY BOARD COMMENTARY? SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST I MEAN, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ELEVATION OF THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ORIGINALLY THERE WERE THOSE NEW WALLS, AT LEAST IN SOME OF THE BAYS.
BUT IN LOOKING AT THE NEW BUILDING, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING THE.
THE LOOK OF THE FACADE FOR NOWADAYS I WOULD PERSONALLY.
I WOULDN'T PUT THE NEW WALLS AND I WOULDN'T PUT THE LITTLE SIDE LIGHTS ON THE CENTRAL BAY.
I WOULD JUST MAKE THEM AS CLEAN AS THE EXISTING ONE, BECAUSE I THINK IT BRINGS UNIFORMITY TO THE BUILDING, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE RECONSTRUCTING THOSE LITTLE NEW WALLS AS A REFERENCE TO THE PAST IS ADDING MUCH TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND IF YOU. I AGREE WITH STEVE ON HIS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE STATEMENT THAT HE MADE THAT THE STOREFRONTS ARE THE MOST CHANGE ITEMS IN STORE IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS, I WOULD SAY.
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SO WHY NOT CHANGE IT TO MAKE IT THE BEST WE CAN AT THIS POINT? SO I DO KNOW IN THE PAST THE BOARD HAS HAD A PRECEDENT WITH EVEN WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, HAVING SOME SORT OF KNEE WALL SORT OF REFERENCE, WHAT WAS TYPICALLY IN PLACE FOR RETAIL STOREFRONTS, ESPECIALLY IN LINCOLN ROAD.SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY THE BOARD HAS INCLUDED IS A AS A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO WE FELT IN THIS CASE, OF COURSE, A HIGH WALL, A HIGH KNEE WALL IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CONDUCIVE FOR FOR RETAIL.
BUT HAVING A KNEE, A KNEE WALL, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 12IN.
OR IS IT 16IN? NO. THIS 10 OR 12. THIS IS HIGHER HERE, 16IN.
BUT IF THE BOARD WANTED TO LOWER IT THAT'S FINE TO 16IN.
MAYBE TOO HIGH. IF THE BOARD WANTED TO LOWER IT, CAN WE BRING THE LAST? LAST LAST MONTH WAS TEN INCHES. THIS IS. HERE IT IS.
I GOT IT. YEAH. IF YOU COULD BRING THE LAST IMAGE TO THE SCREEN.
THIS IMAGE. WHICH ONE? IT'S THE LAST PAGE ON OUR PACKAGE.
OH, THE PACKAGE IS NOT HERE. THIS IS A PRESENTATION.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE PAGE 8201 THERE THERE. YEAH.
SO IF WE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM IMAGE, I THINK IT'S KIND OF.
IT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. THE WAY I SEE IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LIKE ONE THIRD OF THE BUILDING WITH ONE LANGUAGE AND THE OTHER TWO THIRDS WITH A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT TRYING TO BRING THE PAST BACK, IT'S ADDING VALUE TO THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE OTHER RETAILER, WHEN THE OTHER STOREFRONT COMES TO STAFF FOR RENOVATION, WE WILL MAKE THEM PUT BACK THAT KNEE WALL TO MATCH.
SO IN THE END, IT WILL HAVE THE UNIFORM LOOK.
OKAY, SO THERE IS A PLAN FOR THE OTHER ONE TO BE REDONE WHEN IT DOES, WHEN IT DOES COME, WHEN IT DOES COME IN, EVENTUALLY IT WILL COME IN. OKAY. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO PLAN RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM DO IT RIGHT NOW. BUT WHEN THAT RETAILER CHANGES, THEY COME IN FOR INTERIOR BUILD OUT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MATCH THE WHAT THE BOARD IS APPROVING TODAY.
WE DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THOSE KNEE WALLS, BECAUSE IT DOES SORT OF INDICATE THAT THIS IS MORE OF AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE VERSUS A NEW A NEW BUILDING, RIGHT? EVEN IF THE CURRENT TENANT SEEKS SOME TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT PERMIT THAT WILL TRIGGER THE NEED TO CHANGE THAT STOREFRONT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTARY? IF NOT, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? ANYONE. SHOULD I TAKE A STAB AT IT? ALTHOUGH I CAN REALLY APPRECIATE THE 1936 IMAGES, WHICH ESSENTIALLY DEPICT AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT UPPER FACADE, BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS PER STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
OKAY, I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. THANKS. I WASN'T TRYING TO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.