54321. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE MAY 14TH, 2026
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DRB MEETING. WE CAN START WITH ATTENDANCE. ALL RIGHT.GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL. CHAIR MESHBERG HERE.
VICE CHAIR BUTTACAVOLI HERE. MR.. HERE, MR. LESTER HERE, MISS LUANN HERE, MISS MINNICH HERE.
MR. PIES PRESENT. AND I CAN CONFIRM WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH SEVEN OF SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES. THANK YOU.
[ CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES MEMORANDUM MAY 14, 2026]
GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING VIA ZOOM.
MAY DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS (888) 475-4499, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 82273941924, FOLLOWED BY THE POUND SIGN. OR LOG IN TO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS (822) 739-4192.
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ATTORNEY OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE SPEAKING TO THE BOARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.
YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE, TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR IN EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY.
VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. SO IF YOU'LL BE GIVING TESTIMONY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
OKAY. NEXT WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO SECOND IT WITH A CORRECTION TO MAYBE.WHAT IS A SCRIPT ERROR? ON THE BACK OF THE PAGE OF THE MINUTES ITEM NINE NEW APPLICATIONS WHERE IT INDICATES APPROVED CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE WAS 5 TO 0.
IT SHOULD REFLECT 6 TO 1 AS PIE AS BEING THE ONLY DISSENTER.
SO I SECOND OKAY. SO. IT'S ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS BUTTACAVOLI SECOND BY MR. PAEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TODAY.
[OTHER BUSINESS]
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. NO. NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.AND WE HAVE SOME CONTINUANCES AND WITHDRAWALS TODAY.
YES. ITEM DRB 25 DASH 1099. THIS ITEM WILL WILL LIKELY
[2. DRB25-1099, 935 2ND STREET.]
NEED SOME ADDITIONAL VARIANCES THAT WILL REQUIRE RE NOTICING.SO THE APPLICATION IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES NOT NEED THOSE VARIANCES.
WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED TO THE JUNE.
10TH JUNE NINTH MEETING. 11TH. SORRY. SORRY. JUNE 11TH MEETING.
I MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN AND CONTINUE THE DRB ITEM 24 DASH 1061 TO EITHER JUNE 9TH, JUNE 11TH OR JULY MEETING. SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE CONTINUED TO THE JUNE 11TH.
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IF IT DOES NEED TO COME TO JULY, IT'LL IT'LL JUST BE RE NOTICED. OKAY.SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS BUTTACAVOLI.
SECOND BY MR. PAEZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES.
OKAY. THE NEXT. ITEM. DRB 24, 1061. THAT'S 1414 ALTON ROAD.
[3. DRB24-1061, 1414 ALTON ROAD.]
THE APPLICANT IS HERE SO THEY CAN DESCRIBE. BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BEING DEFERRED.AND WE'LL NOTICE IT AT A LATER DATE. GOOD. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WERE ABLE TO RESUBMIT HOPEFULLY FOR THE FINAL SUBMITTAL ON SUNDAY.
SO THAT WOULD PUT US ON THE JULY AGENDA IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
SO IT WILL BE NOTICED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TOO LONG.
AND AGAIN, SO I THINK THE SO I WOULD ASK FOR US TO BE MOVED TO THE JULY AGENDA.
I'M LOOKING AT MR. MADDON'S FACE LIKE HE'S PUZZLED THAT WE RESUBMITTED.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE. BUT THE DOUBLE CHECKING THAT.
BECAUSE THE EARLIEST THAT IT WOULD BE IN JULY.
WELL, WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT.
OKAY. THAT'S GOOD AND BAD NEWS FOR ME. BUT THE.
SO BUT AGAIN, WE ARE DONE WITH THE REVISIONS.
SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GO FOR IT TODAY.
SO WE WOULD ASK FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL JULY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JULY 2ND.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION WAS BY MISS LEWIN, AND I DIDN'T HEAR WHO MISS BUTTACAVOLI SECONDED.
SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. OUR FIRST NEW APPLICATION TODAY, 1250
[4. DRB25-1159, 1250 WEST AVENUE.]
WEST AVE. DRB 251159 1250 WEST AVENUE. THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 28 STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH ACCESSORY USES, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.OKAY. SO JUST FOR BACKGROUND PURPOSES LAST YEAR, IN JUNE OF 2025, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED AN ORDINANCE 2025 4749, WHICH CREATED THE ALTON BEACH BAYFRONT OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH APPLIES TO THIS SUBJECT PARCEL, AND THE CITY COMMISSION ALSO APPROVED RESOLUTION 2025 33803, WHICH WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR THIS SITE, AND THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO AGREEING TO COMPLETE SEVERAL PORTIONS OF THE BAYWALK AND A FEW OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS FOR THAT, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THE, THE OVERLAY, WHAT IT PROVIDES FOR IS SOME ADDITIONAL FAR WITH A BONUS STRUCTURE TO GRANT THAT FAR WHICH PROVIDES A MAXIMUM F.A.R. OF UP TO OF 5.75 ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
IT PROVIDES FOR A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 330FT. EXCUSE ME.
AND SOME OTHER SOME OTHER BENEFITS IN TERMS OF HOW THE PARKING CAN BE ORGANIZED.
AND, AND AND SOME ADDITIONAL OTHER REGULATIONS.
SO THIS SITE IS ALSO IN THE R3 DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE HIGH INTENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
AND SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL FOR, AS INDICATED IN THE TITLE, A 28 STOREY BUILDING.
THE BUILDING IS 329FT, EIGHT INCHES TALL TO THE TOP OF THE SLAB.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT.
THE BUILDING IS PROPOSING FOR THE PARKING TO BE UNDERGROUND.
SO THE SO IT'S, SO IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING IN THAT REGARD AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME INTERESTING FLOOD PROOFING MECHANISMS FOR THAT.
THE, THE PROPOSAL WILL PROVIDE FOR 106 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ACROSS THOSE 27 FLOORS AND FOUR UNITS PER FLOOR THROUGH LEVEL TWO THROUGH 27, TWO UNITS PER FLOOR ON LEVELS ON LEVEL 28 THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE IS 1667FT², AND THE AVERAGE UNIT SIZE IS 3479FT². THE, THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
IT HAS IT'S A SLENDER TOWER WITH A, WITH A HEAVILY LANDSCAPED GROUND AREA.
THE THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING BALCONY, THE BALCONIES ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
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THE ROOFTOP IS, IS THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ICONIC BUILDING IN THE SKYLINE.IT'S GOING TO STAND OUT. AND SO STAFF FEELS THAT THE ROOFTOP NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO WE'RE NOT TELLING THE APPLICANT EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE PROPOSING, BUT WE THINK THAT THAT THE DESIGN SHOULD INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS TO PROVIDE SOME GREATER VISUAL INTEREST.
SO THAT COULD BE SCREEN WALLS, EXPOSED, EXPOSED STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS, DECORATIVE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURES, LIGHTING FEATURES, ASPIRE OR ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DECORATIVE ELEMENT, JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CHARACTER AND VISIBILITY IN THE SKYLINE TO TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL VISUAL INTEREST. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE DESIGN RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF HAS.
AND THE COMMITTEE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSAL.
AND THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND THAT THE THAT THE DRB INCLUDE SOME CONDITIONS IN THE BOARD, WHICH WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT ORDER RELATED TO PROVIDING A COVENANT, ENSURING THAT THE PATH CONNECTS WITH OTHER SEGMENTS OF THE BAYWALK.
AND THAT THERE BE SOME SIGNAGE THE APPLICANT.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE BAYWALK IN THAT LOCATION.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE WE DO HAVE ONE CONCERN. THE BAYWALK OVER THE WATER DOES REQUIRE A MODIFICATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS THE ORIGINAL PLANS CALLED FOR THE BAYWALK TO BE LOCATED ON THE UPLAND PORTION ON THE ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO STAFF HAS INCORPORATED A CONDITION THAT SHOULD THAT NOT HAPPEN OR SHOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER PERMITTING ISSUES, SINCE THIS IS OVER THE WATER, THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW FROM OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
SHOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER PERMITTING HICCUPS THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT? STAFF HAS INCORPORATED CONDITION THAT THEY BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE BAYWALK ON THEIR ON THEIR, ON THE UPLAND PORTION ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STAFF.
SO SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE SAFE, A SAFEGUARD THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN THE DRAFT ORDER THAT WE HAVE IN THE DRAFT ORDER, JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CONSTRUCT IT IN THE WAY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
BOARD MEMBER STAFF MICHAEL LARKIN, 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THE TERROR GROUP WITH ME TODAY IS ODP, OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD WITH HERNANDO MARIN REPRESENTING ODP.
WE ALSO HAVE TODAY MY COLLEAGUES, NICK RODRIGUEZ AND CARLOS MARKOVICH.
THE CODE REQUIRES THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING THAT WE DISCLOSE.
ARE THERE ANY SUPPORT AGREEMENTS ENTERED INTO WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORS HERE? WE'VE ENTERED INTO SUPPORT AGREEMENTS WITH BAY VIEW TERRACE, WHICH IS OUR SOUTH NEIGHBOR, AND THE WAVERLY CONDOMINIUM, WHICH IS TWO PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
THE PURPOSE OF THESE AGREEMENTS IS TO MITIGATE FOR CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS WASHING THEIR WINDOWS, WASHING THEIR CARS BECAUSE DUST DOES MIGRATE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST.
AND SO THESE SUPPORT AGREEMENTS ARE MEANT TO ADDRESS ALL TYPES OF IMPACTS THAT COULD RESULT FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR BUILDING, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO. WHAT I ALSO CALL GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS TO HELP THEM OUT DURING OUR SIZABLE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
RAHEL, CAN WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE? NEXT SLIDE. SO RACHEL WAS CORRECT THAT IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY COMMISSION TOOK TWO ACTIONS.
THE OTHER THING THEY DID WAS ADOPT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THE VEHICLE BY WHICH BENEFITS FLOW TO THE PUBLIC FROM PRIVATE APPLICANT THROUGH THE CITY TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S A COMMON DEVICE USED THROUGHOUT MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING OUR CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
SO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ALTON BEACH BAYFRONT OVERLAY WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, FOR INSTANCE, REQUIRED THE ACQUISITION OF BIKINI HOSTEL.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW JUST BY LIVING IN MIAMI BEACH THAT IT WAS A NUISANCE USE FOR A LONG TIME.
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SO WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THAT BECAME AN ELEMENT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.WITH REGARD TO THE BAYWALK THERE ARE MISSING SEGMENTS IN BAYWALK.
ONE IS BEHIND 800 WEST, ONE IS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF US AT 1228.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW AS MUCH AS THE BEACH WALK IS A WONDERFUL ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE BAYWALK COULD BE AS WELL. IT'S JUST THESE MISSING LINKS DO CAUSE SOME CONCERN.
AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE UP AND DOWN TO WEST AVENUE BACK TO THE BAYWALK.
IT'S SOMEWHAT CIRCUITOUS. SO WE HOPE TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE BY CONSTRUCTING THESE BAYWALK SEGMENTS.
NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
A TRAFFIC REDUCTION WITH A REDUCTION IN THE UNIT COUNT FROM TODAY'S UNIT COUNT OF 238.
EVERYTHING BENEFITS FROM A REDUCED DENSITY. THE NEXT SLIDE OVER ON THE TOP IS THE HOUSING ASPECT, AND THAT WE ARE PROHIBITING SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THEY HAVE SOMETIMES BECOME THE BANE OF NEIGHBORHOODS EXISTENCE.
OF COURSE, THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT AS POSSIBLE. THE STREET PRESENCE. WE PUSHED BACK THE TOWER 150FT FROM WEST AVENUE.
SO IT'S NOT HOVERING OVER WEST AVENUE. I THINK YOU WILL SEE THE RESULT IS PRETTY SPECTACULAR.
IT IS A VAST IMPROVEMENT. THE INTERNALIZED PARKING.
ROGELIO WENT OVER THAT. WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING IT UNDERGROUND AND PUSHING IT BACK.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THIS BULKY PARKING PEDESTAL THAT PLAGUES SOME BUILDINGS UP AND DOWN THIS CORRIDOR.
AND OF COURSE, OVERALL, IT'S JUST A QUALITY PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO LIFT WEST AVENUE CORRIDOR IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S BRINGING THIS TO YOU TODAY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
GOOD MORNING, HERNANDO MARIN, ODP ARCHITECTS.
2432 HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD, HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA.
OKAY. WE HAVE HERE A GENERAL INFORMATION OF THE PROJECT GENERAL INFORMATION.
THE MOST RELEVANT I WOULD SAY IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN OUR ENTRY ZONING DISTRICT.
OUR BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS 8.56 NG PER DAY. WE ARE WE ARE USING THE NEW PRELIMINARY FEMA FLOOD MAPS WHICH IN THE DESIGN FOR ELEVATION SET UP FOR THAT IS 13 AND DVD, WHICH IS ALMOST FIVE FEET OF FREE WORK.
THE FUTURE ADJUSTED GRADE IS 7.86 IN DVD, AND THE FUTURE CROWN OF THE ROAD WILL BE 6.16 DVD. THE DENSITY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ON THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 144 UNITS, BUT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING 106 UNITS.
WE HAVE 250 PARKING SPACES AND FIVE LOADING BEARS THAT ARE ALL IN THE BASEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE BACKUP TO THE CITY. EVERYTHING HAPPENS INTERNALLY.
NEXT, PLEASE. WELL, THIS IS A LOCATION MAP. WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT NEXT.
EXCUSE ME. CAN I ASK YOU TO SPEAK INTO THE MIC A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THAT'S BETTER. YES. OKAY. LET'S THIS IS A GRAPHIC ABOUT SETBACKS, BUT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BETTER IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WHERE WE HAVE A FLOOR PLAN OF THAT, WE HAVE THE AT THE FRONT SETBACK FOR THE TOWER 150 REQUIRED. AND THE TOWER IS ABOUT 175FT.
SO IT'S WAY MORE THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED TO US FOR THE PEDESTAL SETBACK IS 20FT AND WE HAVE ABOUT 21. SO ONE FOOT SETBACK ON THE BACK. THE SETBACK IS 63FT.
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AND IN THE SOUTH TIP OF THE TOWER IS 91.9 INCHES.AND THE SQUARE IN DOTTED LINES REPRESENTS THE TOWER AND THE OUTLINE OF THE BALCONIES.
ON THE SIDES. ONE SECOND ON THE SIDES. SETBACKS.
WE HAVE 16FT PLUS TEN IN THE THE PEDESTAL LEVEL AT THE TOWER LEVEL.
NEXT, AND THIS GRAPHIC, WE WANT TO SHOW THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE ALLOWED, PER THE DEA 330, WE ARE USING 329 EIGHT TO THE MAIN ROOF.
NEXT NOW WE'RE GONNA TURN TO RENATA, WHO'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY PLACE THE THE BUILDING AND SOME MATERIALS. HELLO, EVERYBODY. SO THIS DIAGRAM HERE IS SHOWING, I THINK, THE MAIN FEATURE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS TO ALLOW THIS DIRECT ACCESS FROM WEST AVENUE TO THE BAYWALK.
SO WE ARE USING THE FULL 16FT SETBACK TO ALLOW THIS DIRECT ACCESS, NOT JUST FROM THE PEDESTRIAN POINT OF VIEW, BUT ALSO FROM AS A CORRIDOR VIEW. NEXT ONE. SO THOSE ARE THE IMAGES THAT WE FEEL THAT THAT THE IDEA WAS TO INTEGRATE COMPLETELY THIS ACCESS, THIS PUBLIC ACCESS IN WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE OF THE SURROUNDINGS OF THE BUILDING.
NEXT ONE. AND THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS ALSO VERY.
CAREFULLY TREATED FROM THE STREET PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO KINDS OF ACCESS FOR THE COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH IS A WELLNESS COMPONENT AND AMENITIES COMPONENT, AND ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING THROUGH WEST AVENUE.
SO THE FIRST IMPORTANCE OF THIS, A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE, THE, THE BUILDING IS TO ALLOW A MORE LIKE A HUMAN SCALE AND A VERY LUSH LANDSCAPE GARDEN TO BE THE WELCOMING COMPONENT FOR THOSE PEDESTRIANS AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION.
NEXT IMAGE. SO THE FULL PODIUM WAS ORGANIZED IN A MORE HORIZONTAL PERSPECTIVE PROPORTION, SETTING THE TOWER A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK TO CREATE THIS MORE HUMAN SCALE CONNECTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE STREET.
SO WE HAVE THE CONNECTION FOR THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AND RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THROUGH THE DROP OFF, WHICH IS IN A HIGHER LEVEL IN THIS 13FT LEVEL.
BUT THE WHOLE THE DOCKING AREA AND THE TRUCK AND THE, THE THE THE TRUCK AREA WILL BE WITHIN THE, THE, THE GARAGE IN A IN A DIFFERENT CONNECTION AND ACCESS AND COMPLETELY HIDDEN FROM THE STREET.
SO THE, THE, THE TRASH TRUCKS, EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE RELATED TO THE BACK OF HOUSE AREAS WILL BE THE LOADING DOCK THAT IT WAS PLANNED TO BE COMPLETELY WORKING INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND NOT USING.
NOT A. THE STREET OR ANY OTHER VISIBLE PORTION OF THE PLOT.
NEXT ONE. THIS IS THE DROP OFF RESIDENTIAL AREA, SO WE ALSO.
THE PODIUM IS TREATED ON THE SIDE FACADE WITH THIS PRIVACY SCREEN MATERIAL THAT CREATES A SORT OF TRANSPARENCY, ALLOWING THE GARDEN THAT ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDING AND WRAPPING THE BUILDING TO BE SEEN FROM COMPLETELY FROM ALL THE PERSPECTIVES THAT WE CAN FIND TO CREATE AN INTERESTING SCENARIO FOR THE BUILDING FROM WITHIN THE BUILDING.
NEXT ONE. AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE LOCATING THE TOWER IN A VERY STRATEGICALLY PLACE TO ALLOW THE FRONT GARDEN TO HAPPEN, AND TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE AND LUSH FROM THE PEDESTRIAN SIDE.
THE WEST AVENUE SIDE. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CREATE A VERY LUSH AND TROPICAL GARDEN AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WHERE THE AMENITIES AND WHERE THE CONNECTION WITH THE BAY WILL BE PLACED.
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THIS LUSH GARDEN AND THIS MORE LANDSCAPED AREA TO BE VERY BIG AND NICE.NEXT ONE. AND THIS IS HOW THE TOWER WILL BE PLACING THE PODIUM.
OKAY, LET'S GO TO NEXT. NOW WE HAVE A GRAPH THAT REPRESENTS HOW WE ARE TREATING WATER IS OUR RESILIENCY GRAPH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE SIDE SETBACKS, SOME VIABLE CELLS, WHICH ARE VEGETATED CHANNELS THAT CAPTURE AND FILTER THE STORMWATER RUNOFF.
AT THE FRONT OF THE, THE FRONT OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INFILTRATION TRENCH WHICH IS UNDERGROUND PERFORATED POINT ROUGH GRAVEL AND CAPTURE STORMWATER. AND WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING RAIN GARDENS TO, WITH A SHALLOW LANDSCAPE TO, WITH DEPRESSIONS THAT COLLECT THE WATER FROM THE LOCAL RUNOFF AND OTHER BIOSWALES ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND OTHER GRAVITY DRAINAGE WELLS.
NEXT. THIS IS MATERIALITY. RENATA. I THINK THIS IS THE MATERIAL PALETTE THAT IS PLACED HERE.
SO YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER LOOK THEN. IT'S THE IDEA IS TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT THE GLAZING PANELS, FACADES AND CREATE MORE DEEPER BALCONIES TO ALLOW THIS MORE A MORE INTERESTING, INTERESTING, INTERESTING VOLUMETRY FOR THE BUILDING. SO YOU SEE, WE WILL CREATE SHADOWS AND MORE, LET'S SAY VERANDAS AND MORE EXTERIOR AREAS THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE EXTERIOR THAT COULD BE ALIVE, A LIVABLE SPACE AND NOT JUST A BALCONY.
AND THE MATERIAL SELECTION IS VERY MUCH RELATED TO THE NATURAL PALATE.
SO WE ARE USING. AS FOR THE PRIVACY SCREEN, WE ARE CREATING A PRIVACY SCREEN THAT WILL ALLOW THE SIDE FACADES OF THE BUILDING TO HAVE MORE PRIVACY TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORS. AND FOR THIS MATERIALITY, WE WE WOULD WE ARE LOOKING FOR A WOOD GRAIN ALUMINUM PROFILE THAT WILL BE ALSO DISPLAYED HERE. YOU CAN FEEL AND TOUCH.
SO IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS A VERY GOOD MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL WOOD, BUT, BUT RELATES TO THE WOOD, TO THE WOOD GRAIN AND TO THE.
FOR THIS MORE NATURAL MATERIALITY PALLET, WE ARE ALLOWING ALSO THE EXPOSED CONCRETE TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD CREATE THIS MORE WARM PALETTE. SO THE, THE, THE GRAY, THE GRAY OF THE CONCRETE, THE WOOD AND THE AND THE PODIUM BASES WILL BE WRAPPED IN MORE NATURAL STONE. THAT IS A MATERIAL THAT CONNECTS TO THE LANDSCAPE.
SO WE ARE CREATING THIS MODERN LOOK BY HAVING THOSE VERY ENGINEERED ELEMENTS WITH NATURAL WITH THESE NATURAL PATTERNS. THIS IS A NICE VIEW OF THE BUILDING, THE SKYLINE OF MIAMI BEACH LOOKING WEST. AND YOU SEE HOW WE THINK.
WELL, IT BLENDS INTO THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY.
THIS RENDERING IS SHOWING IS DETAILING THE INTENTION OF THE DESIGN AND MATERIALITY AND THE FLYING BALCONIES, VERY LARGE BALCONIES VERY OPEN, VERY TRANSPARENT.
THEY, WE ARE SETTING UP THE RAILING ABOUT 6 TO 8IN, MORE THAN A TYPICAL RAILING THAT YOU SEE IN THE BUILDINGS TO CREATE A TO REMARK THE LINE OF THE BRIDGE. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THOSE PRIVACY SCREENS THAT WE ARE CREATING, NOT THE TYPICAL DIVIDERS THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER BUILDINGS, THE, THE CLADDING AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF THE GLAZING OF THE AC ENCLOSURE.
NEXT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE, WE'RE GOING TO GO REAL QUICK THROUGH THE FLOOR PLANS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE BASE BASEMENT LEVEL THREE, WHICH IS ALL PARKING.
THE SECOND BASEMAN IS ALSO ALL PARKING. YOU SEE ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE IS A PARALLEL CHORD, WHICH IS THE FLOOR OF THE PARALLEL CHORD THAT HAS DOUBLE HEIGHT, AND THEN THE NEXT LEVEL,
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ALL THE SHADE AREA IS, IS THE COMMERCIAL AREA WITH THE SPA.YOU SEE THE DOUBLE HEIGHT OF THE, THE PARALLEL COURT.
THE CENTER ONE SECOND AT THE CENTER THERE'S A GARDEN THAT IS, HAS AN OPENING IN THE DROP OFF AND THE DROP OFF HAS, HAS A ROOF WITH ANOTHER OPENING.
SO EVERYTHING IS OPEN TO THE SKY AND IS A, IS A LIGHT.
WELL, THAT IS, IF IT'S ALL THE SPACES ON THIS LEVEL.
EXCUSE ME. THE LAST THING ON THIS ONE IS YOU NOTICE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WE HAVE THE LOADING AREA.
THE ACCESS TO THE LOADING AREA IS INDEPENDENT OF THE RAMP FOR THE RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE THIS RAMP ON THE SOUTH. THE THE RESIDENTS ACCEPT ON THE NORTH.
SO EVERYTHING WORKS INDEPENDENTLY. NEXT. AGAIN HITTING THE GROUND LEVEL.
AT THE TOP CORNER YOU CAN SEE THE RAMP THAT IS GOING UP TO THE DROP OFF, AND YOU CAN GO AROUND THE DROP OFF, MAKE A LOOP, OR YOU CAN TAKE THE SOUTH OF THE, THE RAMP DOWN TO THE PARKING OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE SOUTH RAMP.
YOU SEE AT THE FRONT OUR FRONT YARD IS, IS PLANNING TO BE A VERY FLUSH GARDEN WITH A NATIVE SPECIES OR AT LEAST A FRIENDLY, A FRIENDLY MATERIALS THE FOLLOWING VOLUME CAUSE THE, THE SPACE, A COMMUNITY SPACE, COMMERCIAL SPACE INTEGRATED THAT INTEGRATES WITH THE SPA IN THE LEVEL BELOW AND THERE ARE SOME EQUIPMENT ROOMS. THE WALL, THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR WILL BE IN THAT AREA.
AND THE THE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO THE LEFT THE SPACE OF THE LOBBY AND AMENITIES OF RESIDENTS.
AND THE BACK IS THE POOL DECK. YOU, YOU WILL START NOTICE HERE THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BAYWALK.
MR.. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXTEND THEIR TIME? GIVE YOU ANOTHER TWO MINUTES.
OKAY. THERE SHOULDN'T BE TOO MANY MORE SLIDES, I DON'T THINK.
I HOPE NOT. OKAY. TYPICAL LEVELS. THESE ARE BASICALLY A TYPICAL LEVELS.
THE FIRST PORTION OF THE BUILDING HAS FOUR UNITS PER FLOOR.
AT THE TOP, WE HAVE TWO FLOORS, AND THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT IS THEIR ROOFTOP.
NEXT THIS IS A DETAIL OF THE BACKYARD AND THE BAYWALK AND THOSE 3D VIEWS ARE SHOWING THE CONNECTION ON THE NORTH TO THE TO THE BAY WALL.
NEXT ONE. THIS IS MORE OF THE NORTH IS A DETAIL OF THE NORTH.
NEXT ONE, NIKKI. AND THIS IS THE SOUTH CONNECTION, WHICH IS LEVEL BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK THAT WE WILL BUILD IS GOING TO COME INTO THE RIGHT ELEVATION POINT TO CONNECT TO THE BAY WALK.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE A FEW LANDSCAPE IMAGES HERE.
THIS IS THE THE SITE PLAN WHERE YOU SEE THE PLACING OF TREES AT THE FRONT TO ENFORCE THE LUSH GARDENS, AND OBVIOUSLY THE GARDEN AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING MAINLY THESE ARE GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, FOR YOUR ATTENTION. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. I'D LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY PUBLIC WE DO HAVE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? YEAH. I MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE APPLICANT AT THE SITE.
I MET WITH THEM ONLINE YESTERDAY AND MET WITH THEM IN AN OFFSITE OFFICE.
THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE ONLINE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
CHRISTINA, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? CHRISTINA, IF YOU ARE THERE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
YES. CHRISTINA, DO YOU SO SWEAR? YES. THANK YOU.
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YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.OUR FORENSIC AUDIT CONFIRMS THAT THE EXISTING DEVELOPER LISTED ON THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, PAGES 47 AND 53, WEST AVENUE HOSPITALITY OWNER, LLC AND WEST HOSPITALITY OWNER, LLC. THESE TWO ENTITIES ARE NOT EXISTENT IN THE DELAWARE CORPORATE REGISTRY.
THIS REPORT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, ATTORNEY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, TO THE US SECRET SERVICE, AND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY REGARDING THIS FRAUD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE JASON GROSS.
JASON, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, YES.
THANK YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS JASON GROSS. I AM THE CONDO BOARD PRESIDENT OF BAYVIEW TERRACE, WHICH IS AT 1228 WEST AVENUE, MIAMI BEACH. I AM A RESIDENT OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
WE ARE LOCATED IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE DIRECTION THIS PROJECT DESIGN HAS EVOLVED.
WE BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS MADE MEANINGFUL REFINEMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE LOWERED PEDESTAL HEIGHT AND INCREASED SETBACK FROM THE BAY THAT HAVE IMPROVED THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE PROJECT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT. WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS RESPONSIVENESS AND PROVIDING PLANS, STUDIES, AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT HAVE HELPED OUR RESIDENTS BETTER UNDERSTAND THE LATEST DESIGN UPDATES AND CHANGES TO THE BUILDING MASSING. WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT REFLECTS A THOUGHTFUL AND WELL-CONSIDERED APPROACH, AND WE APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONAL MANNER IN WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS ENGAGED WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE ISAAC LUSTGARTEN. ISAAC, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO. GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ISAAC LUSTGARTEN.
I'M A RESIDENT OF MIAMI BEACH FOR AROUND EIGHT YEARS.
I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR NEARLY 30.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR TEAM HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER A TOWER THAT WILL BE A BEACON TO THE MIAMI BEACH SKYLINE, AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE TOWER SHOWS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO MODERN ARCHITECTURE. A LOT OF TOWERS IN OUR CITY ARE NOT PLEASING TO SEE, AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE THAT THE LANDSCAPING COMPONENT THAT THE GROUP HAS PUT FORTH CAREFULLY BLENDS WITH THE NEIGHBORING TOWER, AND IT WILL FURTHER ENHANCE WEST AVENUE BOTH ON THE EAST AND ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE BAYWALK HAPPENS TO BE AN EXTRA GRADE POINT THAT MATTERS TO US RESIDENTS IN MIAMI BEACH.
I LIVE IN SUNSET HARBOR, AND I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK UP AND DOWN WEST AVENUE.
SO WHEN THIS IS COMPLETE, IT WILL FURTHER ENHANCE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT IS THERE'S NO NAME.
IT JUST SAYS ZOOM USER. YES. HI, MY NAME IS FIFI BASSON.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
THANKS. I AM IN DEFINITELY SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS HAS CLEANED UP THE AREA TREMENDOUSLY. THE DEVELOPER HAS BROUGHT IN A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT ALREADY, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE AREA.
I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND I'M TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT AND BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL SETUP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE RALEIGH.
RALEIGH. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS. RALEIGH SMITH, I LIVE ON BELLE ISLE.
CLOSE BY TO TO 1250. AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND MAKE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE MIAMI BEACH SKYLINE.
FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES CLOSE BY, I LOVE TO WALK MY DOG IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST HAVING A OPEN AREA TO WALK MY DOG RIGHT BY THE THE BAY WALK IS GOING TO BE AMAZING. AND I KNOW THE LANDSCAPING, EVERYTHING LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, SO I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS NEW DESIGN. THANK YOU.
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NEXT WE HAVE IPHONE 236. HI, THIS IS AL HOROWITZ.DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 5401 PINE TREE. AND I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS, FOR THIS BUILDING.
I LOVE THE GREENERY. I LOVE THE DESIGN. I THINK IT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO ENHANCE DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE OF, OF THE OVERALL AREA. AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE LIZ KENNEDY. LIZ, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, THANKS. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI, EVERYONE.
GOOD MORNING. I MOVED HERE FROM LA IN JULY. I'M AT 1000 VENETIAN.
I HAVE A SIX YEAR OLD SON. AND I AM SO IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN MIAMI.
EVERYTHING IS JUST SO PRISTINE. THEY'RE PUTTING SO MUCH EFFORT INTO IT, AND I JUST CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH COMING FROM SOMETHING THAT I DID, WHICH FELT LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT EVEN MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND A GREAT PLACE FOR MOMS. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE CANDACE. CANDACE, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, YES. GOOD MORNING.
OKAY. SO I LIVE ON BELLE ISLAND ALSO. I DO OWN A FEW PROPERTIES IN MIAMI BEACH UNDER 750,000.
AND THEN I WORK IN THE FIELD OF INTERIOR DESIGN FOR LUXURY REAL ESTATE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND OF WHERE MY PERSPECTIVE IS COMING FROM IS THAT HERE IN MIAMI BEACH, IT'S EVOLVING. THIS IS A NEW GENERATION. AND FOR ME, THIS BUILDING SETS THE PRECEDENT BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING IS A LOT OF TROPICAL MODERN ARCHITECTURE, INTERIOR DESIGN. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE OUTSIDE.
THEY WANT TO BE OUTSIDE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL HERE.
THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS REALLY ON AN UPTICK.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE DO APPROVE THESE BUILDINGS, LET THESE BUILDINGS DESIGN AS THEY KNOW HOW THESE ARCHITECTS DESIGN IS THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO PUT MIAMI TO A NEW PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS KIND OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT AND THEY'RE NOT QUALITY.
PEOPLE COME HERE AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET KIND OF FOOLED.
THEY BUY SOMETHING FOR VERY HIGH VALUE, NOT A HIGH QUALITY.
AND THAT KIND OF SETS A BAD REPUTATION FOR MIAMI AND OUR FIELD.
AND WHEN WE HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING A TOP DOLLAR FOR A HIGH VALUE, WE BRING A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEMAND AND THE COMMUNITY GETS TO EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING NEW.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT WASN'T BUILT TO LAST. AND SO NOW THIS NEW WAVE, THIS NEW NEXT GENERATION, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE CITY TO REALLY ALLOW THIS TO FLOURISH TO ITS HIGHEST POSSIBILITY.
AND THEN ALSO WITH THIS NEW LUXURY REAL ESTATE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY, HAVING THE INFLUX OF TAXES AND ALL THIS MONEY TO IMPROVING OUR STREETS AND IMPROVING ALL THE SURROUNDINGS. SO THE BUILDING, THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING THEIR PART, THEIR CAPACITY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT MIAMI BEACH HEADS IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
SO I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE SETH FEUER.
SETH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOLKS FOR THIS GREAT PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
I'M SETH FEUER, 1330 WEST AVENUE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WEST AVENUE FOR BETTER THAN 25 YEARS.
I OWN TWO PROPERTIES ON THE AVENUE, BOTH HERE AND AT 1228 WEST.
THROUGH THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS AND FINALLY GETTING TO THIS DAY. IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE HOW MUCH POSITIVE, HOW MUCH POSITIVITY IS. WE'RE GETTING YOU'RE GETTING TODAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT JUST WEST AVENUE, BELLE ISLE, AND AROUND MIAMI BEACH. FULLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
I ONLY HAVE ONE REQUEST THAT BAYVIEW. I'M SORRY.
THE BAY WALK IS ONE OF OUR MOST AMAZING ASSETS ON MIAMI BEACH.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S TIME WE GET IT DONE.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR AN AMAZING PROJECT. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE TAYLOR TRAVAGLINI TAYLOR.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YES.
OF COURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, AND GOOD MORNING.
YES. TAYLOR, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ONE SOTHEBY'S.
I'M THE HEAD OF GROWTH FOR THE COMPANY. WE HAVE OFFICES NEARBY.
THIS WONDERFUL NEW PROJECT. IN ADDITION TO MANY STAFF AND AGENTS.
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NOT TO MENTION WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPRESSED ON THE BAYWALK, WHICH WE ALL KNOW TO BE A MASSIVE ASSET, NOT JUST TO THE BEACH AND THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR VISITORS ALIKE.IN ADDITION TO THAT THE TOWER PORTION THAT'S SET BACK FROM THE STREET AND BAY IS, IS MORE THAN THE ZONING ALLOWS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS WORTH MENTIONING.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. JUST WANT TO. SUPPORT AND WISH EVERYONE A GREAT DAY.
ALL RIGHT. AND NEXT WE HAVE JULIAN. JULIAN, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I PERSONALLY WAS BORN IN MIAMI BEACH AND HAVE LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH FOR THE PAST 39 YEARS.
AFTER SEEING THIS PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE I'VE SEEN ON MIAMI BEACH.
I THINK ABSOLUTELY WOULD IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IMPROVE MIAMI BEACH, IMPROVE OUR GLOBAL YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY, THE WAY WE LOOK GLOBALLY TO THE CITY.
AND I'M VERY, VERY I WOULD REALLY MUCH SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THE LANDSCAPING COMPONENT IS GORGEOUS. I THINK THE STREET COULD USE A LOT OF UPGRADING, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT I THINK REALLY SHOWS THAT IN MY, IN MY OPINION, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU.
COME ON UP IF YOU. YEAH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JACOB. WERE YOU SWORN EARLIER? OH, I WAS NOT, NO. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. THANKS. MY NAME IS JACOB, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. WEST AVENUE DESERVES THIS LEVEL OF INVESTMENT, AND THE PROJECT DELIVERS IT. THE TROPICAL ARCHITECTURE, WARM, NATURAL MATERIALS, AND THOUGHTFUL LANDSCAPING BLEND BEAUTIFULLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE BRINGING MUCH NEEDED SHADE AND GREENERY TO THE CORRIDOR.
AS A RESIDENT, I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL BE A WELCOMED ADDITION TO THE MIAMI BEACH SKYLINE.
I URGE THE BOARD TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU ALL.
THANK YOU. HI, EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. I HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN.
OKAY. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANKS. HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS SAM EDELSTEIN. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF MIAMI BEACH FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS NOW. AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN THAT I WANTED TO SAY HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY.
BUT JUST THE STYLE OF THE DESIGN, THE ARCHITECTURE, THE BRAZILIAN WOOD, AND ESPECIALLY THE LANDSCAPING, WE'VE ALL WALKED ON WEST AVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY UNDER THE BLAZING SUN.
I THINK THE LANDSCAPING WILL REALLY BE A NICE RELIEF TO ALL OF US.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALSO GETTING RID OF THE RAMBUNCTIOUS BIKINI HOSTEL WILL BE A REALLY WELCOME ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I REALLY JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROJECT COME TO FRUITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ALEX. I'M ALSO. I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
I'VE BEEN IN MIAMI AND MIAMI BEACH FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, I WOULD SAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. THE BUILDING IS BEAUTIFUL.
EVERYBODY HAS SEEN IT. YOU GUYS ARE ALL INTO THE DESIGN, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRAISE IT ENOUGH.
AMAZING LANDSCAPE. VERY ORGANIC. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND THE DESIGNERS.
DEVELOPER HAS DONE AMAZING PROJECTS, SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR.
THE BOARDWALK IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS FOR ME BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI GUYS. MY NAME IS ISABEL AND I LIVE ON WEST AVENUE. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN WEST AVENUE FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.
FOR A SINGLE GIRL LIKE ME WALKING ON THE STREETS AT THE DURING NIGHT.
AND NOW EVERYBODY SAW THE PROJECT. THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE AMAZING.
ALSO, MY OTHER FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, THEY LIKE TO WALK OVER THERE.
SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. AND YEAH, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HI, I'M ALEXANDRA FIRST, I'M A
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MOTHER OF TWO AND THE BIKINI HOSTEL WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT MADE US FEEL SCARED AND UNWANTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.AND ON SATURDAY MORNINGS WE LOVE TO DO WALKS AROUND THE BEACH, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT AND TROUBLESOME, TROUBLESOME TO GET AROUND. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BOARDWALK GETTING BUILT OUT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE DID. ONE MORE HAND WAS RAISED WHILE THEY WERE SPEAKING A FEW TYLER. PASCO. TYLER, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU. HEY, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF OF EVERYONE BEFORE ME.
I LIVE ON BELLE ISLE ON 31 VENETIAN WAY, AND OBVIOUSLY LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME. AND YEAH. THANK YOU.
MATTHEW 125, JEFFERSON AVENUE. I WANTED TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.
AS SOMEONE WHO ENJOYS ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SPACES ON MIAMI BEACH, THE BAYWALK, WHICH IS MANY DECADES IN THE MAKING, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WE MAY RUN INTO A SITUATION LIKE WE HAVE ON THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND OTHER SEGMENTS OF BAYWALK, WHERE IF IT'S OVER THE WATER AND NOT PART OF THE UPLAND PROPERTY, AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STATES, IT MAY NOT GET BUILT OR IT MAY BE BUILT MANY YEARS FROM NOW.
SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU ALL WHEN YOU REVIEW AND DELIBERATE TO CONSIDER.
WHERE THE BAYWALK SEGMENTS ARE ACTUALLY BEING BUILT.
BECAUSE IF IT IS OVER THE WATER, IN ADDITION TO PERHAPS DELAYS.
SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, ENCOURAGE THAT IF POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. CHAIR. CHAIR, COULD I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? YEAH, I THINK WE WE FINISHED. WE CAN. ONE MORE ONE MORE HAND RAISED IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW IT.
MARCO GOJKOVIC AND IF ANYBODY ELSE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.
THANK YOU. MARCO. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS MARCO AND I'VE LIVED IN MIAMI BEACH FOR 20 YEARS AND I CURRENTLY LIVE IN SUNSET HARBOR.
I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE TRAJECTORY FIRST OF MIAMI BEACH AND WHERE IT'S GOING WITH THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, ARCHITECTURE AND ALL THE NEW RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HELPED ENHANCE OUR CITY'S GROWTH.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE ENHANCEMENT OF WEST AVENUE AS IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED.
AND I'M VERY IN LOVE WITH THE TROPICAL DESIGN AND THIS LANDSCAPING PLAN.
WITH THE BIKINI HOSTEL GONE AND THE WALKABILITY OF BAYWALK COMING CLOSER TO FRUITION.
I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. NO MORE HANDS RAISED. OKAY, NOW WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
THANK YOU. REGARDING THE BAY WALK, I KNOW THAT THE BAY WALK BEHIND THE MONDRIAN WAS DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY, AND IT'S UP. CAN YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN MAYBE IN SIZE OR IN WIDTH? OR HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE BAY WALK ON THE MONDRIAN AND THEIR TIMING AND YOUR TIMING TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN? IS THE BAY WALK GOING TO START AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT IS DONE, OR AT THE SAME TIME OR PRIOR? CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? SO I CAN HAVE FERNANDO TALK ABOUT THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE BAY WALK AND OUR TOWER.
I THINK IT'LL BE CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, BUT I'LL LET HIM CONFIRM THAT.
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THAT'S WHAT 1228 IS BEING PROPOSED. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THIS BAY WALK IS GOING TO BE OVER WATER.I DON'T THE ANALOGY TO THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER FIFTH STREET IS MISPLACED, BECAUSE THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
SO I DON'T SEE THE SAME RISK THAT THAT SPEAKERS SAW.
SO WE CAN'T OCCUPY THE BUILDING OR BUILD THIS BUILDING UNTIL THE BAY WALKS DONE.
WE CAN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT ARE YOU DOING IT PRIOR OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO DO THE BAY WALK? NO, WE'RE WORKING ON IT EVERY DAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONDO ASSOCIATIONS.
WE'RE USING THE EXACT SAME CONTRACTING COMPANY.
RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TILL TCO, OR DO YOU THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE HANDED OVER TO PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE PRIOR TO THEN? IT SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTABILITY DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.
OUR SEGMENT CAN BE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD TAKE LIKE MAYBE 18 MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT.
IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT. THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS A CHALLENGE, BUT SINCE WE'RE DOING THREE OTHER OVER WATER SEGMENTS, IT'S REALLY JUST IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. THE CHALLENGE WITH THE COMPLETING THE BAYWALK SEGMENT IS ENTIRELY GETTING THE BUILDINGS TO AGREE TO THOSE EASEMENT AGREEMENTS. AND IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEHIND THE MONDRIAN.
YES. WHAT'S BEHIND THE MONDRIAN IS ACTUALLY TEN FEET.
OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES US TO SEEK FIVE FEET WIDER 15FT.
IT'S SUBJECT TO THE STATE AGENCY'S PERMITTING IT THAT WIDE.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEKING A FIVE FOOT WIDER.
EVERY SEGMENT THAT WE'RE BUILDING WILL BE FIVE FEET WIDER THAN WHAT THE STATE AGENCY SAYS.
YOU CAN'T DO 15FT, THEN YOU PUSH BACK. THEN WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK DOWN TO TEN.
RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. GO AHEAD.
PRIX, WEST SIDE HIGHWAY AND HIGH LINE AND WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL DO TO THE WEST AVENUE AREA.
AND THE BAYWALK WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THIS GORGEOUS BUILDING AND LOOK AT IT, BUT I THINK THE BUSINESSES AND THE SAFETY AND THE COMMUNITY WILL REALLY BENEFIT FOR DECADES TO COME.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS LEVEL OF PROJECT BEING BUILT IN THAT AREA.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS THE IS THERE A WAIVER BEING SOUGHT OR. NO.
WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE READY TO GO. BUT NO NO WAIVER.
YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YEAH.
AGREED. I THINK THAT THE BUILDING IS BEAUTIFUL.
I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SAMPLES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM TO.
I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, IT SAID ALUMINUM I THINK IN ALL THE PLANTS.
BUT IS THAT'S ACTUALLY WOOD, RIGHT? YES. THIS IS THE SHAPE OF THE PRIVACY SCREEN.
BUT THIS IS THE MATERIAL WHICH WOULD EXACTLY.
DO YOU WANT TO USE. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE ALUMINUM OR COMPOSITE ALUMINUM THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WOOD.
YES. OKAY. SO IT'S THAT SHAPE THAT THIS MATERIAL.
RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ARE YOU PROPOSING BOTH SPECIES OR COLORS? ACTUALLY, THIS IS ONE OF THE CLADDING SYSTEMS FOR THE THE FRONT FACADE, WHICH WE WILL BE ALSO MADE WITH ALUMINUM.
OKAY. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S CONSISTENT THROUGH THE BUILDING, THE WHITE OAK.
SO INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE ARE USING NATURAL MATERIALS.
SO THEREFORE WOOD OR SOME PANELING AND CEILINGS.
BUT OUTSIDE EVERYTHING IS ALUMINUM. QUICK QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR.
HOW IS THAT CLEAN. DO YOU HOLD THAT DOWN? DO YOU HAVE TO CLEAN WITH A WIPE THROUGHOUT EVERY SINGLE.
YEAH. WE THIS, THIS ELEMENT IS GOING TO BE NOT WITH THIS BACK PANEL.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE SECURED AND IT'S GOING TO BE USUALLY HOLDS IT.
YEAH I THINK SO. YEAH I THINK SO. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN EVERY BALCONY.
YES. IT'S A PORTION OF THE BALCONY. YEAH. IS IS SET OUTSIDE OF THE GLAZING IN FRONT OF THE GLAZING.
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AND IT TURNS OUT TO. SO YOU HAVE WATER HOSES IN EVERY BALCONY? NO, WE DON'T NEED TO. NO. NO. SO YOU JUST SWIFFER? EXACTLY. YOU HAVE JUST TO CLEAN THE GLAZING. I DON'T.I JUST DON'T. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. GOOD LOGISTICAL QUESTION.
THROUGH THE CHAIR. MR. LARKIN, YOU SAID THAT THIS WOULD BE A SIZABLE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO PREPARE THE BUILDING PERMIT PLANS TO PREPARE THE BUILDING PLANS? HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
AN ACTUAL PERMIT ISSUED AND THE PERMIT ISSUE.
IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 6 TO 7 MONTHS, PERHAPS EIGHT MONTHS.
OKAY, SO ONCE THE PERMIT ISSUES, THEN HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CONSTRUCT THIS BUILDING? I BELIEVE THAT THE PREJUDICE TO BE 30 MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, 30 MONTHS, 33 MONTHS.
RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE.
YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER.
YEAH. A YEAR FOR A YEAR FOR PERMITS AND THEN ANOTHER ALMOST THREE YEARS.
YEAH. SO THROUGH THE CHAIR JUST LAST COMMENT.
THE DESIGN IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. TARA DOES EXCELLENT WORK THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA.
AND I WOULD IT'S, I THINK IT'S ARGUABLY THE BEST VIEWS FROM MIAMI OR EXACTLY FROM THAT AREA AND AT THAT HEIGHT THAT IT'S BEING BUILT, THE VIEWS ARE GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY BAR NONE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT MAKES ME WANT TO LIVE THERE.
AND I ASKED DAVID FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY DISCOUNT AND HE'S LIKE, WHO ARE YOU? I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO. DO YOU WANT TO. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR DESIGN.
A VERY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND CERTAINLY AN ASSET TO THE ENTIRE CITY AS WELL AS WEST WEST AVENUE.
FROM HOW MANY OTHER ENTITIES BESIDES THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, DURHAM, DEP, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT U.S. ARMY CORPS, AND YOU FEEL ALL THOSE WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL.
YOU KNOW, IF THE OVER WATER CONCEPT DID NOT EXIST ALREADY, I WOULD BE MORE HESITANT IN MY RESPONSE.
BUT SINCE IT DOES AND WE'RE USING THE SAME EXACT CONSULTING ENGINEERS, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
SO FOR THE BAYWALK AND WHAT THE STAFF IS SUGGESTING AND I'M JUST SORT OF REITERATE, SO I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS IS AN OVER WATER SECTION AND THE OTHER SECTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING WILL BE OVER WATER AS WELL.
OR THOSE ARE ON LAND. I THINK ALMOST ALL OF THEM WILL BE OVER WATER.
AGAIN. NICOLAS RODRIGUEZ SAYS ALL THE OTHER SEGMENTS HAVE TO BE OVER WATER BECAUSE THEY'RE ADJACENT TO EXISTING BUILDINGS WHERE THE POOL DECKS COME RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMMODATE IT WITHIN EXISTING CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S AN EXISTING SEGMENT FROM TEN TO 13TH STREET.
THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF US IS 1228 WEST AVE.
THAT HAS TO BE OVER WATER BECAUSE THEIR POOL DECK COMES RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ESSENTIALLY JUST CONTINUING THAT RATHER THAN BRINGING IT INTO OUR PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHERN SIDE, JUST CONTINUING OVER WATER BAYWALK SEGMENT ALL THE WAY FROM 10TH STREET TO THE END OF OUR PROPERTY LINE, WHERE IT COMES BACK TO LAND AT MONONA TERRACE.
SO THE BAYWALK WILL BE IN AND OUT, BASICALLY.
AND IS THERE A MASTER PLAN IDEA FOR THE BAYWALK TO KEEP CONSISTENCY? I'M GOING OFF OF JESSICA. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT SETTING, SETTING PRECEDENT AND THIS BEING A PUBLIC AND VERY USABLE.
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HOW IS THAT BEING CONTROLLED? AND THEN IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THE STAFF IS CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE BAYWALK. SO SO THE BAYWALK CONCEPT COMES FROM THE DADE COUNTY SHORELINE REVIEW ORDINANCE, WHICH DATES BACK TO THE LATE 70S. AND SO PIECES OF THE BAYWALK HAVE BEEN BUILT OVER MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. AND EACH PIECE IS DIFFERENT.AS, AS STANDARDS HAVE EVOLVED, AS SITE CONSTRAINTS PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPLETE SEGMENTS.
AND SO THEY'RE ALL VERY DIFFERENT. SO THERE IS LIKELY NEVER GOING TO BE A UNIFORM CONSISTENT PATH.
EACH, EACH SEGMENT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WHICH PROVIDES SOME, SOME VARIETY AND SOME VISUAL INTEREST AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG THE PATH. BUT IT IS BEING DESIGNED IN A WAY WHERE IT WILL BE FLUSH SURFACES ALL AROUND.
WHAT STAFF. STAFF IS OKAY WITH THE WITH THE BAYWALK OVER THE WATER.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIES WHERE THAT'S DONE. THERE ARE SEVERAL SEGMENTS HERE THAT WHERE THAT'S DONE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO CONCERNS WITH THAT. AND, AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE PROVIDING A VIEWING PLATFORM WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY TO ENHANCE THE USE OF THE BAYWALK.
AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT AMENITY. THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE IF IT WERE DONE ON THE, ON THE PRIVATE, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THEY WOULD NOT BE GIVING THAT EXTRA SPACE IF IT WERE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
SO THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
STAFF'S MAIN CONCERN IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY BE BUILT, THOUGH WE THINK IT CAN.
THERE ARE SEGMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED. IT IS SUBJECT TO OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCIES APPROVAL.
SO WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A BACKUP IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.
THERE'S A HICCUP. THE FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT AMENDED ALLOWING THE BAYWALK TO BE OVER THE WATER, THAT THERE BE A BACKUP PLAN THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE BAY, WALK ON THEIR PROPERTY PRIOR TO GETTING THEIR TCO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR CONCERN. AND SO WE'VE INCORPORATED A CONDITION WHERE WE COULD APPROVE THAT IF THAT COMES TO BE THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BUILD IT OVER THE WATER, WE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THE PUBLIC BAY WALK OVER THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE THAT CONDITION IN THE ORDER THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO APPROVE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, RATHER THAN HAVING TO MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD TO APPROVE THAT. SO IT WOULD BE DESIGNED IF IF THAT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION THEY WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO PUT A PUBLIC SPACE ALONG THE WATERFRONT ON THEIR PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE, THE LANDSCAPE GUIDELINES OF THE, OF THE, OF THE BAY WALK STANDARDS THAT DADE COUNTY HAS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROTECT IT FROM THEIR PRIVATE, FROM THEIR PRIVATE AREAS WITH FENCING AND OTHER MATERIALS.
BUT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF IT OVER THE WATER. WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH IT.
SO THE OTHER TWO WOULD BE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT, WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE UNIFORM LOOK, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SHORELINE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TAKES A LONG VIEW OF THINGS.
AND THEIR VIEW IS THE PROPERTY MAY NOT DEVELOP IN FIVE YEARS AND TEN YEARS, MAYBE 20 YEARS.
BUT WHEN IT REDEVELOPS, THAT'S WHEN WE GET OUR CHANCE TO SHAPE IT.
AND THE ACCESS, I THINK, IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THAT COMMITTEE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
I THINK TO ROGELIO'S POINT, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, IS THAT THAT IF IT CAN BE SEAMLESS, THAT A STROLLER OR RUNNER FOR SAFETY ISSUES IS KIND OF THE MORE IMPORTANT FOR USABILITY THAN IT IS THE VISUAL, IN MY ESTIMATION.
ADA. SO IT HAS TO BE FULLY ADA COMPLIANT FOR THE DA.
CHAIR. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THAT. IS THERE BEING INTEGRATION WITH THE CITY REGARDING THE CAMERAS AND ON THE BAYWALK SIDE, THE WAY THAT THERE IS ON THE OCEAN WALK SIDE? WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH CIP. IT'S REALLY, IT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHETHER THEY REQUEST THAT, WHETHER THEY WANT IT. I THINK MOST DO. AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WITH PROVIDING THE SECURITY CAMERAS AND THEN TYING THEM IN WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH POLICE.
SO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER, ARE THEY OKAY WITH INTEGRATING WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CAMERAS ON THE BAYWALK BEHIND THE PROPERTY? I KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HAS ASKED FOR US TO DO THAT.
YES. SO 1250 WILL HAVE CAMERAS. 1250. YEAH, WE CAN HAVE CAMERAS.
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YEAH. OKAY. THOSE WILL BE FORTHCOMING HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT.RIGHT. YEAH. AND THE VIEWING PLATFORM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FENCED IN AREA, THE SORT OF THE BUMP ON THE, ON THE WALK? YES. ON THE, SO IN THE SORT OF IN THE CENTER OF THE WALKWAY YOU'LL SEE THAT IT STICKS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S A PRIVATE ELEMENT THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE. WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT, BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, WE CAN HAVE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT VIEWING PLATFORM. I'M JUST I'M JUST HE I THINK HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS PUBLIC, SO I JUST. OH I WAS IT'S FENCED IN.
OH I DIDN'T. OKAY. AND MY QUESTION TO TO YOU GUYS WOULD BE HOW HIGH IS THAT FENCE.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING ALONG THE, THE WALK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT A FENCE FOR 50% OF IT, WHICH IS LIKE A NICE LITTLE PRIVATE WATERFRONT.
IT WOULD BE BETWEEN 42IN AND 44IN HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE FOURIER BUILDING CODE FOR A GUARDRAIL.
SO THE TENANTS HAVE ACCESS TO A LITTLE PRIVATE AREA THAT THAT BUMPS OUT ON THE WALK.
JUST OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. I, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL SEAMLESS.
I MISSED THAT. DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR STAFF? WHY ARE YOU YOU SAID YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT.
WELL, LET ME VEER BACK TO MY CLIENT. ONE SECOND.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT A THUMBS UP. I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY FORMULATED OPINION.
I'M JUST. I'M JUST OPENING IT SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
I WANT TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOU. AND IF HE MISUNDERSTOOD.
I DON'T WANT TO FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT. SO IT'S OKAY TO HAVE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO THE BACKUP PLAN, I JUST WANT TO ASK THE BOARD LIKE THIS.
RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK OUR EVERYONE HERE, LIKE IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WHICH SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A SLIM CHANCE OF HAPPENING, BUT WOULD WE WANT TO SEE THAT? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE TO THE FOOTPRINT.
MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO SEE IT, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE.
SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? INSTEAD OF IF THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THEIR BACKUP PLAN.
I THINK THE WAY ROGELIO HAS PRESENTED IT IS THEY WOULD JUST WORK WITH STAFF TO DO THAT.
IT TAKES A BIG. I DON'T THINK IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE.
I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T, BUT THAT'S UP TO THEIR PURVIEW.
I YOU KNOW, WE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THAT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING, I THINK WHAT LAURA IS SAYING IS IF IT DOES HAPPEN.
RIGHT. YEAH. IF IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, DOES THE PROJECT NEED TO COME BACK TO DRB OR DOES IT CONTINUE WITH THE APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE WON'T.
WE CAN COME BACK. YEAH. IF THE WAY THE CONDITION IS WORDED NOW IS STAFF APPROVAL.
IF THIS HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. BUT IF YOU ALL ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US COMING BACK AND CONSIDERING THE MODIFICATION, WE'RE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I WOULD I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON, THOUGH.
WELL, LET'S FINISH THE BAY WALK CONVERSATION. OKAY.
NO MORE. FINISH THE BAY WALK. NO, I WANT TO FINISH.
IF YOU HAVE MORE BAYWATCH, LET'S. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
OH, OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, IS IT A SIMILAR ON THE PARK OR WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING? IS. IS IT ALSO CONDITIONED ON THAT BEING BUILT BEFORE YOU GO TO TCO? OR WHAT'S THE STORY ON THAT SIDE OF THE. SO THERE'S A TIME FRAME FOR THE CITY TO CHOOSE WHAT TO DO.
IT'S TWO YEARS FROM LAST JUNE, AND THEN THE CITY WILL LET US KNOW.
AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO PROCEED WITH THE PARK, THEN WE HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME TO PERMIT, GET THE PARK DONE AND DELIVER IT TO THE CITY WITHIN THOSE TIME FRAMES.
IT. AND IT DOES HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE THE BUILDING IS OCCUPIED.
IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN A PARK, THEN WE WOULD JUST CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO THEM WITH A CASH CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT. GOT IT. OKAY. AND WOULD THAT REQUIRE, IF THEY WANT TO PROCEED WITH A PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE? DOES THAT REQUIRE THAT PARCEL TO COME BACK TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD? YES. OKAY. THEY DO MAKE NICE PARKS. IS THERE A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION LIKE PARK OR WHATEVER?
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LIKE, SAY THE CITY WANTS A SUPER EXPENSIVE PARK IS IT'S A $2 MILLION PARK IS WHAT IT IS.IF IT'S NOT A PARK, THEN THE $2 MILLION JUST GOES TO THE CITY AS CASH.
OKAY. THERE'S A LOT YOU CAN DO WITH $2 MILLION.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE PARK DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE ELEPHANT GOES BY QUICKLY.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION. ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE RAIN GARDEN AND BIOSWALE SYSTEMS. IS THAT GOING TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE TROPICAL PLANTINGS OR THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
NO, NO. IN THE SAME GARDEN, DURING THE SAME SECTION, LANDSCAPING PART OF THE SYSTEM.
WE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE THE LOCATION. WE HAVE THE CIVIL ENGINEER HERNANDO NAVAS WITH 3242 CORPORATE WAY, MIRAMAR, FLORIDA. I'M THE CIVIL CONSULTANT FOR THE PROJECT.
YES. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THE BIOSWALES.
AND RATHER THAN GETTING THAT WATER AND INJECTING IT AT 80FT, WHICH IS LOST, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT BIOSWALE TO BASICALLY EQUALLY DISTRIBUTE THAT WATER UNDERNEATH THE GROUND AT THE SURFACE LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO KEEP WHAT IS CALLED THE FRESHWATER LENS OF THE CITY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FRESHWATER LENS IS THE FACT THAT YOU WANT THAT FRESHWATER TO KEEP PUSHING THAT SALTWATER DOWN AND AWAY FROM THE CITY AREA SO THAT NOT ONLY THE VEGETATION ON OUR BUILDING, BUT THE VEGETATION AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL COULD ACTUALLY KEEP AND STAY ALIVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE FRESH WATER, LESS SALT WATER. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? AND YOU USE LESS LESS IRRIGATION WATER BASICALLY.
ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOWING THAT WATER TO INFILTRATE, PERCOLATE AND COMMINGLE WITH THE, WITH THE SOIL TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT MOIST. I ALSO WANT TO DUMP INTO THE BAY AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CORRECT, IT WILL EVENTUALLY JUST SEEP THROUGH AND ANY EXCESS WATER WILL OVERFLOW INTO THE WELL SYSTEM.
OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THANKS. THANK YOU. IF I DIDN'T SAY IT, THE BUILDING IS VERY ELEGANT AND CLEAN AND SIMPLE, AND I DO REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN FOR THE BOARD.
THE STAFF IS ASKING ABOUT THE PRESENCE AND THE ICONIC NESS OF THE ROOF AND THE TOP ELEMENT.
YEAH. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S BASICALLY CLAD IN IN THE WOOD SLATS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS ANY FEELING ABOUT THAT OR YOU PUT THE RENDERING UP OF THE, WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, PLEASE, THE RENDERING OF THE ROOFTOP, DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT? SLIDE 19. MAYBE THE RENDERING OF THE ROOFTOP, I THINK.
19 WE'RE GETTING TO IT. YEAH. WE DEVELOPED THIS DETAIL OF THE ROOFTOP.
AND WE WANT THE PORTION, THE WE WANT WE WANT IT TO RECESS THE THE TOP PORTION OF THE ROOF TO BE MORE NOT TO BE ACTUALLY NOT VISIBLE. SO THE WAY THAT WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT WOULD BE MORE SUBTLE AND WILL BE MORE OR LESS GENEROUS TO THE CITY WOULD BE TO ALLOW THIS ELEMENT TO BE SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. I THINK IT'S MORE FROM A SORT OF A, A, IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH OF TRYING TO STAND OUT. IT'S MORE LIKE TREATING WITH THE SAME ELEMENTS AND WITH THE SAME QUALITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO TREAT THE REST OF THE FACADE.
WE ARE ALLOWING A VERY LUSH GARDEN TO HAPPEN AROUND THE POOL.
AND THIS GARDEN WILL BE SURROUNDING THE FULL, THE FULL FOOTPRINT OF THE ROOFTOP.
THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT COULD ALLOW SOME TRANSPARENCY AND SOME LIGHT FILTER TO ENHANCE THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS PIECE OF LIVING, LIVABLE SPACE.
SO THAT WAS WHAT DRIVES THE DESIGN MORE THAN TRYING TO CREATE, LET'S SAY, A STANDOUT ELEMENT.
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SO THAT WAS THE APPROACH, YOU KNOW, SO TO CHANGE THAT, IT'S IT COULD BE DONE.BUT I, I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION, THAT THAT SOLUTION WOULD BE A MORE SUBTLE SOLUTION FOR THE CITY.
SO THE GREEN SHADED AREAS WOULD HAVE LANDSCAPING IN THE FUTURE. EXACTLY.
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT BEING AN ELEMENT, I THINK THE FULL TOWER IS ALREADY THE, THE, THE ELEMENT FOR THE SKYLINE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE ROOF IS THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING.
THE FULL BUILDING SHOULD BE THE THE ELEMENT THAT WOULD STAND OUT AND BE PART OF THE SKYLINE.
THE SKYLINE. THIS IS. THIS IS HOW WE FEEL THAT THE ROOF SHOULD BE TREATED.
I WAS THAT WAS MY QUESTION, WHICH YOU JUST ANSWERED.
AND SO AS THE DESIGNER OF THE OF THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS, IS THE ICON YOU WANT TO KEEP ITS, ITS SIMPLICITY AND ITS, ITS FLOATING PLATES AS AN ELEMENT, NOT INTRODUCE SOMETHING ELSE TO THE CO-OPERATIVE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE MAIN, THE MAIN.
RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION. YEAH.
MURANO GRANDE HAS THOSE SWOOPING ELEMENTS ON THE ON THE ROOFTOP.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS WHICH DO HAVE SOME SORT OF A, OF AN ELEMENT ON THE ROOFTOP.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE BROUGHT UP EARLY ON IN, IN OUR REVIEW, WE UNDERSTAND THEIR, THEIR POINT OF VIEW AND IT IS VALID. BUT SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I LIKE TO SEE THE NIGHT RENDERINGS, BECAUSE THE PRESENCE OF THE EVENING IS, IS VERY IMPACTFUL.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE ARE LIT. I ALSO NOTICED IN THE RENDERINGS, AND THIS IS NOT REALLY FOR US, BUT IT'S JUST GLASS TO UNDERSIDE OF SLAB. SO THERE'S NO IS THERE GOING TO BE A DROP CEILING WITHIN THE LIVING SPACES ON THE ON THE GLAZING? NOT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE JUST IN SOME INTERIOR PORTIONS WHERE WE HAVE THE AIR DUCTING SYSTEM RUNNING THE ACTUAL LIVING SPACE.
LIVING SPACE. THE LIVING SPACE THAT ARE BEHIND THE GLASS.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, NOT NOT NOT THAT I WOULD THINK SOMEONE WOULD, BUT SOMETIMES THEY COME IN AND THEY START RUNNING COVE LIGHTS AROUND AND THEN THIS BUILDING STARTS TO LIGHT UP. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO AVOID.
YEAH. AND AGAIN, THE LIGHTING FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING IS, IS NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES AFTER THE APPROVAL. IT CAN BE TYPICALLY IT TYPICALLY HAPPENS THAT WAY IF WE DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING MAJOR.
ANY, ANY, ANY ELEMENTS THAT WE THINK ARE GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE EVENINGS.
DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY STANDARD LIGHTING? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF HOW YOU WANT TO LIGHT THE BUILDING? ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP IT? I THINK IT'S A IT'S A BALANCE.
USUALLY WE WANT THE ARCHITECTURE THE WAY THAT WE PERCEIVE IT DURING THE DAY.
BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD NOT MAKE IT LIKE STAND OUT.
I THINK WE CAN, LET'S SAY, ENHANCE A BIT THE, THE WOODEN PORTIONS THAT COULD BE MORE LIKE THAT ARE RELATED NOT JUST TO THE FRONT AND THE SIDE, BUT THE REAR FACADE, BUT ALSO ON THE SIDES, BUT MORE FROM INSIDE TO CREATE A SORT OF A SMOOTH, A BUFFER OF LIGHT AND NOT SOMETHING THAT IS VERY DIRECT.
AWAY. NOT SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT SPOTLIGHTS THAT SHOULD BE GOING.
WHAT PEOPLE WOULD PERCEIVE SEEING FROM BELOW IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
AND THEN WE WOULD MARK THOSE HORIZONTAL ELEMENTS ALSO DURING BY NIGHT.
SO TRYING TO BE VERY SUBTLE TO CREATE THIS AMBIANCE THAT IS MORE LIKE A LAMP THAN A THAN THE FOCUS POINT, YOU KNOW. NO, THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. GOOD. GOOD ANSWER.
I THINK. THE OTHER, I THINK THAT'S IT. EXCEPT.
SO THE ONLY AMENITIES IN THE BUILDING ARE ON, ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
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SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FLOOR THAT HAS EXTRA HIGH CEILINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO.AND I'M SPEAKING AM I, AM I LOOKING? I DON'T SEE IT IN THE RENDERING, BUT A 12 FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING THAT WILL THEN HAVE HAVE THAT PRESENCE LIKE WE SEE IN SOME OTHER PROJECTS.
NO NO NO NO. ALL THE AMENITIES ARE AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
AND WE HAVE THE CLUB AT THE BASEMENT. ONE. NO, NOTHING ABOUT THAT.
THE TOWER IS STRICTLY FOR. THE POOLS ON THE ROOF, I THINK, ARE FOR THE PENTHOUSES.
RIGHT. OR IS THE ROOF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE? NO. IT'S PRIVATE.
IT'S PART OF THE PENTHOUSE. NO, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU DID ON, ON, ON THE GROUND AND THE GRADE AND THE PARKING.
AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO DIG THIS HOLE. BUT TO NOT HAVE I SAID THIS YESTERDAY TO THESE GUYS THAT NOT HAVE PARKING TO VISIBLE IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TIRED OF SEEING SIX STORIES OF PARKING EVERYWHERE.
AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO DIG THIS. SO THANK YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR.
THOSE TWO PANELS, THOSE ARE TWO UNITS, RIGHT? ANYBODY? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE WITH THE MODIFICATION TO THE CONDITION REQUIRING THE BAYWALK TO COME BACK IN THE EVENT THAT.
YES. WITH THAT IT'S THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT ON THE WATER.
I'M SORRY. TO TO TO WHERE? TIME INTELLIGENCE CENTER.
YES. YES. ADDING THE PLATFORM BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE APPLICANT SHALL PROFFER A COVENANT ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH THAT ENSURES CONTINUOUS ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT VIEWING PLATFORM OBSERVATION DECK. OH, THERE YOU GO. SO THAT CAME FROM THE THEY THOUGHT AHEAD.
AND. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA WITH.
THE CAMERA. I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A, AN APPROPRIATE DESIGN RELATED CONDITION.
BUT YOU GUYS KNOW BEST. IT'S JUST THAT THE TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP OF THE BAY WALK.
YOU VOLUNTARILY PROFFER THE IDEA THAT IT SHOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE CITY SYSTEM.
OKAY. SO ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROJECT AT 1250 WEST AVENUE, DRB25-11. WE HAD A MOTION MOTION.
OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I'M SORRY. DID YOU INCLUDE THE PARK ALSO? THAT IT THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET? THAT THAT IT COME BACK TO DRB.
IF IT DOES THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE A CODE REQUIREMENT.
IT HAS TO COME TO THE DOOR. OKAY. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO THEN WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO REMOVE IF THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH THE WAY THE ROOF IS DESIGNED.
I WOULD THAT WE REMOVE THE CONDITION. CONDITION.
I'D TWO A YES. WHY IS THAT. TWO. THAT SHOULD BE ONE.
I'LL REMEMBER THAT. YES. WHAT IS IT. WHAT DOES IT READ? THE APPLICANT SHALL EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS ON THE ROOFTOP IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GREATER VISUAL INTEREST, SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STAFF CONSISTENT WITH THE DRB CRITERIA AND OR DIRECTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
AND THEN WE PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS. BUT IF THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN REMOVE THIS CONDITION, REMOVING IT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I HAVE ALL THREE CHANGES.
THE CAMERA THAT THE CAMERAS BE INTEGRATED WITH THE CITY'S CAMERA SYSTEM, THAT IF THE IF THE BAYWALK NOT BE ON THE WATER, THAT IT COME BACK TO THE DRB AND THEN REMOVAL THE REMOVAL OF THE CONDITION.
FOR THE FOR THE ROOFTOP AND THE PLATFORM BEING ACCESSIBLE, WHICH THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY
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ON THE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. LESTER. WE HAVE A SECOND BY MISS MINDY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MUCH LUCK TO ALL OF YOU.
GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR. THE REGULAR PEOPLE IN NOW.
I'LL JUST TAKE THIS ONE. YEAH. I DON'T LIKE THAT.
DOESN'T SHE REMIND YOU OF THE ACTRESS FROM AMERICAN PIE? WHAT ARE YOU RIGHT.
I'VE HEARD THAT. I'VE HEARD THAT. HE KEEPS REPEATING.
I WAS SCARED OF THESE PANTS. SORRY ABOUT WHAT? DON'T LEAVE A MESS. NO. WE WERE GLAD THAT WE HAD YOUR LEVEL OF EXPERTISE, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN THAT'S LEFT. SO NOW NOT REPLACE.
NOT ONLY IS NOT GOING TO WORK. IS HE GONE? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? WE CAN BEGIN.
1700 CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE RB 26 1170, 1700 CONVENTION CENTER
[5. DRB26-1170, 1700 CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE, 670 17TH STREET (G5 - 17 STREET PARKING GARAGE).]
DRIVE, KNOWN AS THE G5 17 STREET PARKING GARAGE.[01:35:03]
GARAGE, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS. OKAY, SO THIS IS FOR BACKGROUND, THIS WAS AS A RESULT OF AN RFP ISSUED BY THE CITY COMMISSION REQUESTING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION OF PADDLE FACILITIES ON THE ROOFTOP OF PARKING GARAGE G FIVE, WHICH IS THE PARKING GARAGE THAT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL TO THE TO THE SOUTH OF 17TH STREET.AND SO ON, ON JANUARY 6TH, 2026, THE CITY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI BEACH RACKET CLUB, LLC. WHO'S THE APPLICANT WHO'S HERE WITH THIS PROPOSAL? SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE ROOFTOP OF THAT GARAGE.
THAT GARAGE WAS BUILT IN THE 1970S NOT THE MOST ESTHETICALLY PLEASING GARAGE THAT THE CITY HAS HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN RECENTLY WRAPPED WITH WITH SOME WRAPS THAT GIVE IT SOME, SOME INTERESTING SOME INTERESTING DESIGN ELEMENTS.
BUT THAT'S, THOSE WRAPS ARE A SEPARATE ISSUE.
THAT'S THAT'S NOT UNDER UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY.
THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE BUILDING TEN PADEL COURTS ON THE ROOFTOP.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING A A IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME, SOME RETAIL SPACE FOR PADEL EQUIPMENT. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A, BASICALLY A CLUB AREA FOR, FOR FOR CLUB FOR MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE WAITING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY AND WAIT AND HAVE A DRINK. AND THEN THIS WHOLE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE COVERED BY A PARAMETRIC PVC CANVAS FACADE SKIN.
IT'S GOING TO BE SEMI-TRANSPARENT. SO SOME LIGHT WILL BE ABLE TO GLOW OUT OF IT AT NIGHT.
AND SO IT DOES PROVIDE AN INTERESTING DESIGN FOR THE STRUCTURE.
THE STRUCTURE RISES 34FT ABOVE THE ROOF LEVEL.
SO THE GARAGE WILL APPEAR TO BE TALLER THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.
HOWEVER, IT IS WELL WITHIN THE HEIGHT LIMITS FOR.
THE CONVENTION CENTER IS OBVIOUSLY PART OF IT, AND THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL UNDER CONSTRUCTION ACROSS THE STREET IS PART OF IT. SO IT DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL ACTIVATION FOR THIS SPACE, PROVIDES ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR PADDLE, WHICH IS IN VERY, VERY HIGH DEMAND IN THE CITY.
WE CAN'T SEEM TO NOT BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH OF THIS, THIS USE IN THE CITY.
AND IT, IT, IT DOES, IT DOES IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSAL AND RECOMMENDS THAT IT BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER. AS ALWAYS, MR. BIDEN HAS MADE MY PRESENTATION UNNECESSARY, BUT WE'LL SOLDIER ON ANYWAY.
GRAHAM PENN, 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD. WE'RE GOING TO HAND OUT TO YOU OR TWO THINGS.
I'M GOING TO HAND OUT THE MATERIALS AND WHAT THE MY LOVELY AND TALENTED ASSISTANT, MR. SHERRY, IS HANDING OUT IS A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL SHEETS THAT SHOW A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE ROOF, INCLUDING THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT LOCATION. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AS WELL AS A COUPLE ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS AS TO MATERIALS.
THIS IS CANNOT BE A SIMPLER STRUCTURE. WE HAVE TWO MATERIALS THAT ARE AT PLAY.
AND WE HAVE THE ALUMINUM ELEMENTS WHICH ARE THESE TWO.
SO BEN, IF YOU COULD DO ME A FAVOR AND JUST HAND THOSE TO EVERYONE.
SURE. DO WE HAVE TO NOTIFY DISCLOSURES NOW? WE CAN DO THAT AT THE START OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY. AND SPEAKING OF THAT, JUSTIN, WE DO NEED TO SWEAR IN MISTER JUAN PABLO SORIA VALERO, WHO MIGHT HAVE TO SPEAK. SURE. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO ALONG WITH JUAN PABLO, WE'VE GOT NATALIE GRINDA REPRESENTING THE OWNER, JOSE LOBO, THE ARCHITECT WHO'S GOING TO GET UP.
AND AS SOON AS I STOP BLATHERING AND MY COLLEAGUES, MR. BEN SHERRY AND MICHAEL LARKIN. SO, AS ROGELIO EXPLAINED, THIS IS WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.
MORE EXCITED THAN I USUALLY AM IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE THIS IS A.
BRINGING A NEEDED PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USE TO AN UNDERUTILIZED BUILDING IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SITE VISIT KNOW THIS IS AN UNDERUTILIZED BUILDING, AT LEAST THE PORTION THAT WE'RE UTILIZING. SO HERE WE GO.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW. AGAIN, NO SURPRISE. THE 17TH STREET GARAGE IS SURROUNDED BY THE G5 GARAGE ON THE EAST, THE BURDINE SLASH MACY'S BUILDING ON THE WEST LINCOLN ROAD ACROSS LINCOLN LANE TO THE SOUTH, AND THE CITY HALL CONVENTION CENTER COMPLEX ON THE NORTH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT EMPTY SPACE THERE TO OUR NORTHEAST IS WHERE THE HOTEL IS GOING.
THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL IS IS BLOCKS AWAY FROM US IS.
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CENTER AREA. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE ROOF, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF OUR LEASE.AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE SEEING IT IN IN THESE TWO PHOTOGRAPHS IS PRETTY MUCH THE CONDITION. IT IS ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS EMPTY, RIGHT? WE THE UTILIZATION OF THIS ENTIRE GARAGE IS AT WAS ESTIMATED AT THE TIME WE DID THE LEASE AT 69%.
THAT MEANS THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THERE ARE ABOUT 460 PARKING SPACES EMPTY IN THIS STRUCTURE.
OUR PROJECT, AS YOU'LL SEE WHEN JOSE EXPLAINS IT, IMPACTS 167 OF THOSE SPACES.
SO THERE WILL BE SURPLUS PARKING EVEN WHEN WE'RE THERE, SIGNIFICANT SURPLUS PARKING, NEITHER NEARLY 300 SPACES BRIEFLY ON THE SCHEDULE THANKS TO THE GUIDANCE LARGELY COMMISSIONER JOE MAGAZINE, THE CITY COMMISSION MOVED FORWARD WITH AN RFP EARLY LAST YEAR.
HAPPENS TO BE IN THE ROOM. THE. WITH RFP FOR THIS USE TO ACTIVATE THE GARAGE.
THE LESSEE PADDLE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL OPERATOR IN SOUTH FLORIDA NOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
FIRST CLASS OPERATION. THE. THE CLOSEST ONE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR PHOTOGRAPHS HERE ACROSS THE BAY AND NEXT TO THE ARSHT CENTER IN MIAMI. PADDLE IS A OPEN USE. IT IS NOT A MEMBERSHIP CLUB.
THAT MEANS THAT ANYONE CAN RENT A PADDLE COURT USING THE PLATONIC ACT APP.
EXCUSE ME. AND THAT WILL BE THE SAME THING HERE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A USE THAT'S OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND NOT A MEMBERSHIP IN ANY WAY.
ANYONE BASICS ON THE LEASE. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
SO THIS THIS STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR JUST UNDER TEN YEARS.
SO THAT IS GOING TO GUIDE HOW WE'RE DESIGNING IT AND HOW WE'RE BUILDING IT.
IT WILL BE OPEN FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING AT 11 P.M.
SO AGAIN, THAT HAS HAS PLAYED INTO HOW THIS USE GETS DESIGNED SIGNIFICANTLY.
THE LEASE INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PUBLIC BENEFITS, INCLUDING FREE FREE SESSIONS FOR RESIDENTS, REDUCED RATES FOR RESIDENTS, YOUTH PROGRAM, AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM SCHOLARSHIPS.
THERE'S A THERE'S A FOCUS. AND THIS, AGAIN, IS THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT PARALLAX DOES EVERYWHERE.
SO THAT IS ALL PART OF THE LEASE AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT AND THE REMAINING SIX MINUTES, LET ME LET JOSE COME UP AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THE DESIGN, AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOSE LOBO. I REPRESENT SOL DESIGN STUDIO.
I'M AN ARCHITECT IN FORT LAUDERDALE, SIX SIX, THREE TWO SOUTHWEST FOURTH AVENUE.
SO I'LL JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH THESE THROUGH THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
HERE. WE'RE SEEING THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE ROOF AS THE PADDLE CARS ARE GOING TO BE LAID OUT.
THE WAY YOU ACCESS THE FACILITY WOULD BE THROUGH THE MAIN STAIR ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE UP AT THE, AT THE ROOF LEVEL, YOU'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER THE LOUNGES, THE THE PRO SHOP IN THE RESTROOMS AND THEN FLANKED TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT WOULD BE THE COURTS.
WE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY IN AFFECTING THE LEAST THE PARKING STRUCTURE.
SO WE SO WE CAN OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A TEN YEAR LEASE, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DISMANTLE WITHOUT AFFECTING THE, THE ACTUAL GARAGE. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SPACES THAT ARE BEING EXCHANGED FOR FOR A BRAND NEW VENUE FOR THE CITY. AND IN THESE SLIDES, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS WHERE YOU CAN SEE MORE LIKE TWO DIMENSIONAL REPRESENTATION OF, OF THE FACADE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE IS SOMETHING, SOMETHING REALLY LIGHT, INTELLIGENT THAT, THAT REPRESENTS SPORTS FACILITY AS HAS BEEN DONE AROUND THE WORLD IN OTHER YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT I CAN CALL OUT. ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE WHERE WE ARE INTENDING TO HAVE WHERE IT SAYS CLUBHOUSE IS THE ARRIVAL THAT THAT WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE THE MOST PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
AND THEN THE PADEL COURTS WOULD BE ALL MODULAR AND, AND BUILT TO, TO FIT THE, THE COURTS EACH,
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EACH COURT IS ITS OWN STRUCTURE. AND THEN WE HAVE A SKIN THAT WRAPS THE COURTS.SO WE DON'T SO WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY FROM THE, FROM THE GROUND FLOOR, THE SURROUNDINGS.
HERE'S, HERE'S THE, THE, THE INSPIRATION BEHIND THIS, THE SKIN IN, IN THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE, THE COURTS IN HOW. THERE IS A. IT'S A MODULAR SYSTEM THAT GETS INSTALLED ON, ON, ON THE ON ON SITE. AND HERE'S SORT OF LIKE THE, THE, THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND IT.
AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE LOOK OF, OF, OF THE ELEMENT ALTOGETHER AS IT WOULD BE SEEN AT NIGHT.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE FIRST 12FT IS TRANSPARENT.
AND THEN AND THEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE THIS CANVAS STRUCTURE, PVC ABOVE THAT WRAPPING THE THE, THE WHOLE FACILITY. THE INTENT IS TO COMPLEMENT THE GARAGE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST LIKE A, LIKE A, A WAY TO TOP OFF THIS GARAGE IN A, IN A ELEGANT WAY.
AND THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE CORNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO STAFF SUGGESTED CONDITIONS IN ITS DRAFT ORDER. SO WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING.
WE'RE ALL HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. DISCLOSURES. I HAD A CALL FROM ROY GREENBERG TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
I WENT TO THE SITE AND MET WITH THE OWNERS AND ATTORNEYS AS WELL.
I TOO WENT TO THE SITE, MET WITH THE OWNERS. I WENT TO THE SITE WITH THE OWNERS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SHALL WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES. OKAY. IF ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. SOLD. NO HANDS RAISED.
I HAVE A COMMENT THROUGH THE CHAIR WHEN IT'S TIME.
GO! GO RIGHT AHEAD. THE RENDERING THAT COMES UP WITH THE PADDLE X AT NIGHT WITH THE LIGHTING, WHICH LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. IT FEELS LIKE IF THE WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING IS PADDLE X, RIGHT? WHEN YOU HAVE THAT RENDERING, YOU PUT THAT RENDERING UP FOR A SECOND. SURE.
THAT ONE, THAT ONE. RIGHT. YEAH. THIS GIVES YOU MORE OF A IDEA OF THE OF THE SCALE OF IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT SHOULD SAY, BUT THE PADDLE X MIAMI BEACH SIGN THERE LOOKS EXTREMELY COOL.
THE FACADE LOOKS EXTREMELY COOL. I JUST THINK THAT WHEN SOMEBODY LOOKS AT IT, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A PADDLE X BUILDING AND THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S PART OF THE STRUCTURE. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF A CO-BRANDING ELEMENT TO IT IS MY SORT OF LIKE FEEL WHEN I LOOK AT IT.
ARE THERE CURRENTLY PUBLIC PARKING SIGNS ON THERE? I MEAN, I RECALL DRIVING IN AND KNOWING BEING SIGNALED WHERE TO.
NO, I'M SAYING THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE FROM THE CITY SIDE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A I MEAN, IT'S BEAUTIFUL FOR PADDLE X.
THE. AND JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LEASE, THE REASON IT SAYS MIAMI BEACH UNDER THAT IS THAT OUR SIGNAGE HAS TO INCLUDE MIAMI BEACH IN IT. NOW I GOTTA SAY, MIAMI BEACH, 17TH STREET GARAGE ON IT, BUT IT SAYS MIAMI BEACH.
SO WE ARE WE'VE JUST WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF YESTERDAY ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT MATHEMATICS.
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SO THE EXACT SIZE OF THESE SIGNS IS GOING TO BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.THAT'S MY COMMENT. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING I THINK IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD GET SOME EXPOSURE AS WELL.
I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT OWNERSHIP OR, OR RIGHTS, BUT, BUT I DO THINK THAT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE DISSUADED FROM USE FROM JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. IT'S THERE. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I, I AGREE, I MAY BE MORE LIKE STREET LEVEL.
BUT AS LONG AS IF YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND YOU HAVE THE LITTLE IS THERE CURRENTLY THAT SHOULD BE CURRENTLY THERE IS SIGNAGE AT GROUND LEVEL FOR PARKING, BUT MAYBE IT CAN BE ENHANCED OR IT CAN BE REPLACED AND DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S ON THE ROOFTOP, BUT AT GROUND LEVEL MAYBE THE CITY CAN USE YOUR INSPIRATION FOR THE SIGNAGE AT GROUND LEVEL. ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE ROOFTOP.
THERE'S 1400 TOTAL. YEAH, 67, 467. OKAY. AND 367.
AND WE'RE USING WE'RE IMPACTING 167 OF THE OF THE ROOF.
SO YOU'RE REMOVING 167 SPACES AND LEAVING HOW MANY? 150. 192. 192. SO DURING THE HIGH SEASON AND NOT JUST BOAT SHOW THAT ROOFTOP DOES FILL UP. SO IF IF THERE'S A CONVENTION NOW THERE'S BOAT SHOW, LET'S SAY, AND OR THE SUMMIT OF THE AMERICAS COMES BACK OR SOMETHING COMES BACK.
SUPER BOWL WILL THEY CARS BE ABLE TO THEN UTILIZE THE REMAINING 192 SPACES OR SO? YEAH, 100%. SO I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. AND THEY CAN BE UTILIZED IF NEEDED. 100%.
OKAY. AND PART OF PART OF WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED IS THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY TWO ENTRANCES TO OUR FACILITY THAT PEOPLE WE ANTICIPATE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK. YOU SEE WHERE THE PINK IS THERE.
HERE I CAN, I CAN POINT US. SO WE HAVE AN ENTRANCE.
THIS IS A, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE HERE TOO. SO WE ANTICIPATE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING UP ARE GOING TO PARK RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THEY'LL BE FEET AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE. WE GET MORE PEOPLE USING THE ROOFTOP. YOU PROBABLY GET MORE PEOPLE USING THE ROOFTOP PARKING NOW THAN IN A LONG TIME.
LIKE IT'S ONE INTEGRATED. I GUESS NOT SYSTEM, BUT LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ORIGINALLY PART OF THE BUILDING DESIGN AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A RANDOM, VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
FINISH THAT WOULDN'T THAT CLASHES WITH THE ORIGINAL PARKING STRUCTURE.
THE WHOLE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE ONE ELEMENT NOW WITH THAT PEDAL PEDAL.
THAT WAS THE INTENT. THAT WAS THE INTENT. JUST TO FEEL LIKE ONE FACILITY THAT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
AND YOU SAID THAT THE THE STRUCTURE IS PRESSURIZED AND THAT'S HOW IT KEEPS, IT KEEPS ITSELF THE PARAMETRIC DESIGN AND INFLATED. SO IF THE POWER DOES FAIL AND THERE'S NO POSITIVE AIR FORCE INSIDE THE STRUCTURE, WILL IT DEFLATE OR WILL IT STILL BE WELL IN IN THE WAY THAT IT'S THIS IS STITCHED TOGETHER, ALL THESE FORMS. SO THE SHAPE IS STILL GOING TO.
IT WILL STILL, IF IT'S A POWER FAILURE, RIGHT.
OKAY. THERE'S, I MEAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND THE SKIN, RIGHT? THE SKIN IS THE ONE THAT'S THAT IS BEING INFLATED.
ESSENTIALLY THE, THE STRUCTURES ARE KEPT UP BY THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS INSIDE THEM, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT RELYING ON PRESSURE. THE SKIN WON'T COLLAPSE BECAUSE THE ACTUAL TENTS OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COURTS ARE, WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE UP THE SIDES SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE FRESH AIR GO THROUGH ON NICE DAYS.
SO THEY'RE NOT RELYING ON PRESSURE. OKAY. THROUGH THE CHAIR.
I JUST DID THE POWER OF AI TO SHOW HOW YOU COULD INCORPORATE AN IMAGE OF THE CITY SIGN, RIGHT, WITH PADDLE X STILL THERE, AND IT STILL SHOWS NICELY.
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YOU KNOW THAT IT'S CITY PUBLIC PARKING WITH. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE THAT, BUT JUST TRYING TO SHOW WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN, I WOULD JUST TELL OUR CONSTRAINT IS THE CODE, RIGHT? C-C-C DISTRICT DOES NOT ALLOW US OR THE CITY CANDIDLY TO JUST WAIVE ANY SIZE LIMITS, LOCATION LIMITS FOR SIGNAGE OR FAIR AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE AND THE NUMBER RIGHT. WE ARE ENTITLED TO TWO BUILDING IDENTIFICATION SIGNS.RIGHT. SO THAT AND WE CAN ONE ON EACH CORNER.
RIGHT. WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE ONE IN THE IN THE ON THE NORTH FACADE.
AND WE HAVE ONE ON THE EAST FACADE, WHICH IS JUST THE X.
SO THAT'S ALL THE CODE ALLOWS US. NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IF THE IDEA IS THAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS TO THE CITY TO EXPLORE USING ITS LOGO, THAT WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE IN SOME WAY TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT DOESN'T.
I'M ACTUALLY NOT SAYING TO TOUCH YOUR LOGO. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE NEXT TO YOUR LOGO.
SO I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT I COULD SUBMIT THIS DESIGN, THIS IDEA FOR THE CITY SIDE AND SAY, HEY, CAN THE CITY LOOK INTO THEM INCORPORATING YOU KNOW, THE CITY SIGNAGE? YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST ADD SOMETHING HERE. I'M SORRY.
WHEN THERE IS A CONVENTION OR AN EVENT. RIGHT.
PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE AT THE CITY NEAR THAT EVENT OR CONVENTION IS VERY WELL.
NO, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT THE GARAGE IS THERE FOR PUBLIC PARKING. NO, NO. SO THAT INFORMATION OF THAT PARKING SPACE BEING AVAILABLE FOR THE EVENTS IS WELL AND WELL COMMUNICATED TO CONVENTIONS AND EVENT GOERS.
SO WHAT'S LEFT ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I. WE'RE NOT PART OF A CONVENTION.
WE'RE NOT PART OF AN EVENT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO LINCOLN ROAD.
AND WE MAY BE NEW TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WEREN'T BORN HERE.
AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE 60 SOME YEARS, SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PARKING LOT IS FOR PARKING.
BUT I THINK AS WE ARE DRIVING THROUGH THE CITY LOOKING FOR PARKING AS A NON CONVENTION OR NON EVENT PERSON, THE STREET LEVEL, PARKING MAY BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND COVER YOUR REQUEST.
I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE THE EMBLEM OF THE CITY WHERE YOU SAY MIAMI BEACH TO BE INCLUDED.
THAT'S OUR LITTLE ICON, BUT THAT'S SEPARATE. THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT I THINK THE THE INFORMATION THAT THAT BUILDING IS PARKING FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT IN BIG GROUPS LIKE CONVENTIONS AND EVENT GOERS, THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED TO THEM IN ADDITION TO THAT AT STREET LEVEL.
YEAH, I GET IT. THAT'S NOT MY POINT. MY POINT.
EVERYBODY'S GONNA KNOW THAT'S PARKING, AND NO ONE'S GOING TO THINK THAT THEY CAN'T PARK THERE. I JUST THINK THAT THE ESTHETICS OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING SHOULD HAVE, IF IT COULD BE DONE AT. IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, THOUGH.
YEAH. WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY BE IN MORE USAGE AS TIME GOES BY WITH THE HOTEL OPENING UP.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IT, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S CURRENTLY HAS A LABEL ON THE TOP SAYING PARKING AND YET EVERYBODY FINDS IT. BUT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SAY BY DEL X, THEY MAY THINK, OH, THIS IS JUST DEL X OVER THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S MR. CONCERN. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IF WE CAN DO IT AT GROUND LEVEL, MY SUGGESTION IT MAY SUFFICE.
I ALSO WOULD NOT LIKE TO CAMOUFLAGE ANY MORE THE DESIGN OF THAT SCREEN.
IT'S PRETTY, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WHEN IT'S LIT UP.
SO WE. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE APPLICANT DOES A NEW SIGN DOWN AT THE GROUND LEVEL WHERE IT SAYS THERE IS SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW AT GROUND LEVEL? YEAH. THROUGH EACH OF THE ENTRANCES, HOWEVER, ITS SIGNAGE DONE BY THE CITY.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS. IT COULD BE IMPROVED, IT COULD BE ENHANCED.
AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ASSIST THE CITY WITH SO THAT IT'S IT IT ALL ENTAILS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THEY SHOULD STUDY THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING A PARKING SIGN, AS MR. ASEAN SAYS ON THE TOP, WHERE THE COURTS ARE GOING TO BE.
AGAIN, ACTUALLY, MY REQUEST IS NOT FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO THIS SIGN FOR THE CITY.
MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT DOING THEIR OWN SIGN IN THEIR OWN BUILDING IF IT'S POSSIBLE, SO I'M NOT MAKING IT SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT DOING THAT.
I'LL I AGREE THE SIGNAGE, THE CITY, THE GARAGE HAS SIGNAGE ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
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THE SIGNAGE DOESN'T COMPLY WITH OUR CURRENT SIGN REGULATIONS BECAUSE IT'S ON A FLAT BACKGROUND, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE WOULDN'T ALLOW. IT HAS. WE REQUIRE INDIVIDUAL PIN MOUNTED PIN PIN MOUNTED LETTERS, BUT I'LL REACH OUT TO.BUT I'LL REACH OUT TO THE PARKING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. YEAH. GIVEN THE, THE NEXUS OF THIS POINT OF WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET AND THIS, THIS WOULD BE NICE TO MAKE IT AN UPGRADED.
AGREED. AGREED. THAT'S JUST A CITY SIGN THE SIGNAGE WHEREVER IT MAY BE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PARKING DIRECTOR, YOU MIGHT WANT TO MENTION THAT AS WELL.
ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER PARKING DEPARTMENT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND THAT FUND CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PARKING RELATED ITEMS. SO THIS COULD BE A GOOD USE OF THEIR FUNDS. IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I HEAR THIS LOUD. TALKING ABOUT THE SKIN BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST VISUAL ITEM HERE.
I'M NOT 100% CLEAR ON HOW THIS IS. I SEE, I KNOW WHERE IT SITS.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, BASICALLY A TENT WITH, WITH SIDE WALLS THAT HAVE THREE DIMENSIONAL PATTERN.
AND THAT PATTERN IS YOU'RE SAYING IT'S AN INFLATABLE.
TRIANGULATED. SO I'M NOT THERE'S NO SECTION OR ANYTHING.
I IT LOOKS GOOD. I, AND I SEE LIKE A PLASTIC A VERSION OF IT.
SO THE CORD ITSELF IS, IT'S ITS OWN STRUCTURE, ITS OWN.
IT'S LIKE A SHED, RIGHT? IT HAS ITS OWN ROOF.
THAT PART I GOT, IT'S THE IT'S THE DECORATIVE PART.
RIGHT. AND THEN SO OUTSIDE OF THAT OFFSET OFF OF THAT IS THE IT'S THE NEW SKIN.
IT'S THE SKIN THAT'S GOING TO CLAD THE WHOLE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.
AND WHAT IS THE THICKNESS OF IT? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT'S FILLED WITH AIR THAT GIVES IT ITS THREE DIMENSIONAL DIMENSIONALITY, WHICH IS NOT THE PRESSURIZATION FROM THE COURTS IN ITS OWN RIGHT, ITS OWN BAND THAT'S WRAPPING AROUND EVERYTHING.
EXACTLY. AND IT'S GOING TO BE EIGHT, 8 TO 12IN IN THICKNESS BECAUSE BECAUSE OF WHATEVER STRUCTURE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TO, TO HOLD THE THE CANVAS, THAT'S THE TENT THAT'S 8 TO 12IN OR THE.
AND THEN AT THE TOP, I DON'T KNOW, 18FT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS THE IS THE DECORATIVE PANEL.
AND THAT'S AN INFLATED DECORATIVE SKIN, WE'LL CALL IT.
RIGHT. AND CAN YOU BRING THAT UP ON THE SCREEN? I THINK THIS RENDERING SHOWS WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S NOT INFLATED.
YEAH. I KNOW YOU ASKED THAT. RIGHT. IS IT AND IS IT LIKE THAT? THE POWER GOES OUT, BUT IT COSTS MONEY TO KEEP IT INFLATED ALL THE TIME.
SO SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE GEOMETRY.
IT'S GOING TO STILL SHOW BECAUSE IT'S STITCHED AT THE WHEREVER WE HAVE THE, THE GEOMETRY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO SAG AND FEEL DEFLATED BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RUNNING 24 HOURS A DAY.
THE INFLATED SECTION IS IT, IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE.
THAT'S THAT'S THE IT, THAT'S THE IDEA THAT THIS COMPLIMENT.
SURE. HELLO. WHAT'S THE OTHER COMPANY? ONE OF THE PARTNERS.
GET ON, GET ON THE MIC. SORRY, I THOUGHT THEY COULD HEAR ME.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO, THE THE IDEA WE BROUGHT.
I WANTED TO SAY TWO THINGS. THE FIRST REASON WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING A FACADE IS BECAUSE, LIKE ONE OF THE MEMBERS HERE SAID, WE WANT TO FULLY INTEGRATE THE THE STRUCTURE TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL THAT WAS FULLY INTEGRATED WITH THE CITY.
WE WORKED ON THE PRELIMINARY ARCHITECTURE WITH A VERY LEADING ARCHITECTURE COMPANY FROM SPAIN.
AND THIS HAS BEEN TESTED ALL AROUND. THE INFLATABLE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS VERY THIN AND THE COMPRESSOR IS NOT BLOWING WIND INTO THE STRUCTURE IN THE PERMANENT FORM. IT'S JUST KEEPING THE PRESSURE CONSTANT, THAT'S ALL.
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SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S BLOWING WIND INTO THE STRUCTURE IN A PERMANENT FASHION.IT'S ONLY KEEPING IT TIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, IN A TIGHT FASHION.
OUR INTEREST SINCE WE APPROACHED THIS PROJECT, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK OBVIOUSLY US BEING A SPORTS COMPANY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITIES WE COME TO.
OUR INTENTION SINCE THE BEGINNING WAS INTEGRATING TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
SO WHATEVER THE CITY THINKS WE CAN PROVIDE IN TERMS OF ENHANCING THE EXPERIENCE.
I SAW ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAYING THAT ONE OF HER CONCERNS, IT'S ALSO OUR CONCERN.
IT'S THE SAME CONCERN WE SHARE WHEN WE APPROACH THE CITY.
FOR THE RFP. WE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO BE ISOLATED, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST FLOOR OF A PARKING SPACE.
AND OUR CLIENT'S NOT FINDING US OUT EITHER, YOU KNOW? SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY WITH THIS IS I THINK WE'RE DESTINED TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A COLLABORATIVE FASHION BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO THEIR CLIENTS CAN DRIVE UP TO THE TO THE FACILITY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A THE ROOFTOP. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE AT STREET LEVEL. AND THEREFORE, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE INSERTED IN SORRY, WE'RE GOING TO BE INSERTED IN A PUBLIC STRUCTURE.
THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN WORK IS FULLY COLLABORATING AT THE END OF THE DAY.
AND IF WE CAN ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE IN SIGNAGE OR FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY COME WORKING FROM STREET, STREET LEVEL OR WHATEVER, WE CAN HELP PROVIDE THE CITY WE'RE OPEN TO DO SO.
THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE THINK WE KNOW YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY FOR FOR SOMETHING THAT IS AT LEAST MY CONCERN IS ONLY WHAT IS THAT THING REALLY? BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST RENDERINGS ALL THE TIME.
AND THERE'S NOT A FULL DIAGRAM OF IT. SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT'S A IT'S A GRID WITH AN INFLATABLE SANDWICH, SOME TYPE OF SANDWICH. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT GIVES IT THREE DIMENSIONAL SHAPE.
I THINK WE SEE THE ENHANCEMENT THE CITY IS PUSHING IN LINCOLN ROAD IN MIAMI BEACH.
I THINK I REALLY BELIEVE MIAMI BEACH. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT A BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF IT.
WE WANT TO BE PART OF IT. AND WE THOUGHT THIS SITE DESERVED A LOT.
YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST A MODULAR STRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE DETAILS, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO. AND AS WE PROGRESS IN A MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, ASPECTS OF THIS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE.
ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT A TECHNOLOGY.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW. THE CHAIR I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY, FOR HURRICANES, I'M SURE I'M NOT SURE THE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY USED IT WAS USED IN A CONDITION WHERE HURRICANES ARE AROUND IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE.
SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS BASICALLY A PERMANENT STRUCTURE WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE OR THE LOUNGE OR THE SOCIAL AREA IS GOING TO BE SITUATED, AND ALL THE COURTS OF THE SURROUNDING COURTS TO THE ACTUAL CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL ELEMENT, THE SKIN, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REMOVED AS TO LET THE WIND COME THROUGH WHEN THE WHEN THE WIND IS BLOWING HARD AND WE CAN PUT IT BACK AFTER, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A HURRICANE SEASON AND FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES, HOW MANY PEOPLE SUBMITTED FOR THE RFP? ONLY ONE. NO, IT WAS A SEVEN. YEAH. THAT'S SEVEN.
YEAH, IT WAS A TIGHT COMPETITION. GOT IT. CONGRATS.
YEAH. 32 AND SEVEN. YEAH. OH, IT'S FREE TO GO FARTHER.
YEAH. THAT'S A THAT WAS A TIGHT THAT WAS A BIG RACE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THAT RFP. YEAH. WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT US THROUGH WAS ACTUALLY THE PROPOSAL OF THE INDOOR STRUCTURE. I THINK THERE WERE SOME PROPOSALS THAT WERE PROPOSING AN OUTDOOR STRUCTURE, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH NALA'S EXPERTISE AS A PANEL EXPERT AND A LEADING VOICE IN THE INDUSTRY HERE IN THE US, WE THOUGHT THE PLAYING EXPERIENCE ON A ROOFTOP WITH THE WINDY CONDITIONS, IT WAS GOING TO MAKE IT UNPLAYABLE.
YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IF WE REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A LONG TERM VISION OF A HIGH END FACILITY FOR MIAMI BEACH, WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERIENCE HAD TO BE INDOOR.
YOU KNOW, SO WE TRIED TO MATCH ALL THE FACTORS.
THE FACT THAT WE WERE SORRY WE WERE ON A ROOFTOP, CONSIDERING THE STRUCTURAL OVERLOAD POTENTIALLY OF BUILDING SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT, HAVING THE WINDY CONDITIONS INDOORS. AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS CREATIVE SOLUTION.
WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER SPORTS FACILITIES ACROSS THE WORLD.
MATTER OF FACT, THIS COMPANY IS A PORTUGUESE COMPANY AND THEY'RE VERY WELL KNOWN.
THEY'VE BEEN BUILDING ACROSS THE US. THEY'VE ACTUALLY OPENED JUST RECENTLY A PADDLE IN AVENTURA ON A SAME KIND OF SITUATION AS WE DO ON TOP OF THE ROOFTOP, AND THEY'RE BUILDING ALL THE CRISTIANO RONALDO'S. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE SOCCER STAR FROM PORTUGAL, BUT BASICALLY THEY'RE BUILDING ALL HIS ALL HIS CLUBS AROUND THE WORLD.
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AND THAT'S WHY WE REACHED OUT TO THIS COMPANY.I THINK A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE DRB COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE ICON PROJECT ON AVENTURA, BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I KNOW THEY WENT THROUGH PERMITTING AND THEY'RE I THINK THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO OPENING VERY SOON.
CAN I HAVE ONE DESIGN BESIDES UNDERSTANDING THE SKIN? CAN WE GO TO PAGE 19 OF THE RENDERINGS. I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE IS THAT.
BY THE WAY, THE ICON PANEL DESIGN LOOKS VERY COOL BEFORE THIS ONE.
THIS ONE? SORRY. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
I CAN'T TELL WHICH PAGE IS WHICH. TELL ME WHEN TO STOP.
YES. KEEP GOING. YEAH. I BET THERE'S SOME LICENSING.
THIS ONE YOU COULD LEAVE HERE. THIS IS FOR THE BOARD.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I HAD A FEELING ABOUT AND DOESN'T NEED TO BE AGREED UPON OR ANYTHING.
THE SETBACK THAT YOU SEE BEHIND THE STAIR BULKHEAD IS THE PERMANENT FACILITY WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE IS.
AND THE BATHROOMS. THE ROOF, THAT'S NOT THE SAME STRUCTURE.
AND WHEN I WAS UP THERE, WHEN I LOOKED AT THESE RENDERINGS AGAIN, AND I SORT OF THOUGHT THAT POTENTIALLY THIS AT FIRST I THOUGHT IN THE RENDERING IT WAS A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, AT LEAST THE SKIN.
AND I WONDER WHAT YOU GUYS THINK IF THAT SHOULD HAVE.
THIS IS BIG. IT'S 34FT OFF OF HERE. SHOULD THAT ONE SECTION POTENTIALLY BE A DIFFERENT PATTERN OR OR LOWER WINDOW. THE SECTION BEHIND THE THE STAIRCASE.
IT COULD BE SHORTER OR IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT SAME MATERIAL, BUT MAYBE A DIFFERENT PATTERN.
YOUR POINT IS CORRECT. WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS WE'RE THINKING MORE OR LESS, MORE OR LESS, ROUGHLY 30FT HIGH FOR THE COURTS AND TEN FEET HIGH TO 10 TO 12FT HIGH, I THINK FOR THE CLUB, FOR THE CLUBHOUSE AREA.
WHAT WAS OUR INTENTION WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, RATHER THAN HAVING BREAKAGE IN WHAT YOU SAW THE BUILDING, WHAT THE IDEA WE HAD WITH THE FACADE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS BASICALLY TO UNIFY THIS, SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT MODULES THAT ARE COMING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, AND MAYBE THE CLUBHOUSE WAS GOING TO BE ON A DIFFERENT HEIGHT, WHAT WE HUMBLY THOUGHT WAS BETTER FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THE BUILDING LOOKED FROM, FROM, FROM STREET LEVEL.
IF YOU HAVE A FACADE THAT COVERED AND UNIFIED THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE ALL THESE MODULES, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REVISE IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE OPEN TO MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THE, FROM THE PADDLE SIDE. WHAT IS THE VIEW LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING OUTWARDS? WHEN IF YOU'RE PLAYING PADEL, DO YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING AT A WHITE WALL OR CAN YOU LOOK THROUGH IT AND SEE THE VIEWS? SO THE FIRST 12FT, THE FIRST 12FT OF THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S TRANSPARENT.
IT'S A IT'S TRAVELING AROUND HERE. IT'S THESE MATERIALS OR JUST PLEXIGLASS.
MY QUESTION IS, CAN I LOOK THROUGH IT AND SEE, LIKE THE PARK IN FRONT OF IT? YES. HELLO. I'M JP AND I'M MORE OF THE EXPERTS. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE WHAT YOU GET TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BASICALLY.
THE COURT ITSELF HAS A GLASS WALL THAT'S NINE FEET TALL.
AND THEN THERE'S A MESH, A MESH WALL. I WANT TO SAY IT'S THREE FEET TALL.
12FT IS A STRUCTURE. WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON THE COURT BEHIND THE COURT, YOU HAVE THE TENT, AND THE FIRST 12FT OF THAT TENT CAN BE ELECTRICALLY BROUGHT DOWN OR UP, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.
YOU SEE, IF WE HAVE HOT WEATHER, RAINY WEATHER THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO PLAY INSIDE, THEN WE BRING DOWN THE CURTAIN AND YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING. BASICALLY, IT'S OPAQUE AND THERE IS NO GLARE AND THERE'S NO SEE.
IF THE TEMPERATURE ALLOWS IT IN THE WINTER DAYS AND SO ON.
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AND THE VIEW IS SO BEAUTIFUL UP THERE OVERLOOKING THE NEW HOTEL THAT'S ON THE RIGHT, OR EVEN THE CONVENTION CENTER DOWN THE STREET.WE WILL OPEN, WE WILL OPEN THOSE CURTAINS AND LET THE AIR COME THROUGH AND THE VIEW TO BE ABLE TO THE PLAYER TO BE ABLE TO VIEW THE HOTEL OR THE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IN THE DESIGN.
I DIDN'T PICK UP ON THAT. NICE. SO THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TECHNICALITY.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IS IT NINE COURTS OR TEN? IT'S A TEN. YEAH, WE STARTED WITH TEN. BUT WHEN WE HAD TO THE DIMENSIONS OF THE COURT WHERE WE'RE FORCING US TO MAKE SOME INTERVENTION ON THE ON THE GARAGE. SO AS WE AS WE RECONFIGURED IT SO WE COULD REMOVE THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DEMOLISH ANYTHING ON THE GARAGE, WE ENDED UP WITH NINE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO THE THE COURTS ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE A STRUCTURE, THEY HAVE A FENCE INTERNAL TO THEM.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'S OPEN.
RIGHT. SO AND THEN THOSE GO DOWN IF IT'S TOO HOT OR IF IT'S TOO WET OR WHATEVER.
BUT YEAH, SO THE COURTS THEMSELVES ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STRUCTURE TO THEM.
THAT'S PART OF THE GAME. AND THEN BEYOND THOSE CURTAINS IS THE THE SKIN, THE SKIN, THE WRAPPER, RIGHT. THE SKIN STARTS FROM THE TOP OF THE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE PHOTOGRAPH, ON THE, ON THE, OF THE ROOF, SORRY, ON THE PHOTOGRAPH, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE TWO SIDES.
YOU SEE THAT THAT IS THAT THE TOP DROPS AND THAT'S WHERE THE CURRENT CAN CONTINUE DROPPING.
YEAH. THE SKIN WOULD START AT THAT LEVEL, RIGHT.
AND GO UP. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT BLOCKING YOUR VIEW.
IN A NICE DAY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE WORLD. SHAUN WOULD REMAIN YES, YES.
AND IN A HURRICANE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT COMES OFF FOR A HURRICANE.
AND THAT JUST BASICALLY THE SKELETON IS WHAT'S LEFT ON THE ROOF.
SO I THINK THERE WAS A YOU SEE HOW THE CANVAS IS? ITS SKIN IS 18FT TALL AND THE OPENING IS 12FT.
SO 12 AND THEN 18. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S A LOT OF PRESENCE OF THE MATERIAL WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS FROM A DISTANCE.
IS THIS THIS, THIS INFLATED SANDWICH, CALLING IT 30FT HIGH, 34FT HIGH. I ASSUME IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING AND ENGINEERING FOR ANCHORING DETAILS FOR THE FITTINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO WITHSTAND THE HURRICANE IN FLORIDA. SO WE'VE BEEN IN, WE'VE BEEN IN A WEEKLY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.
WHAT? YEAH. SO YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT THAT THROUGH.
RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. I MOTION TO APPROVE. CAN I, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO COMMEND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE FOR SPEARHEADING THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THAT THIS GOES WITH A MOVEMENT OF OUR CITY TO MOVE TO PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS, WHICH IS GREAT. ALSO, MY FAMILY ARE ADDICTS, AND SO WE'VE PLAYED AT ALL THE FACILITIES AROUND MIAMI BEACH.
AND SO I THINK THAT AS YOU LOOK AT THIS STRUCTURE THAT IS A PARKING GARAGE, AND TO THINK THAT THERE'LL BE A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE GATHERING, PLAYING, EXERCISING, MEETING EACH OTHER AND USING AN AREA OF THE OF OUR LITTLE BEACH THAT IS COMPLETELY NOT USED AT NIGHT IS EXCITING.
THAT IS VERY WELCOME. ADDITION TO OUR SAFETY CONCERNS FOR DESIGN.
AND I JUST ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON LINCOLN ROAD AND ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEING POURED INTO LINCOLN ROAD SHOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING AS WELL, BECAUSE AFTER I PLAY PADEL, I'M VERY HUNGRY.
AND SO I GO TO EAT AT ONE OF THESE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED ON LINCOLN ROAD, OR WE RIDE OUR BICYCLES UP AND DOWN AND WE NOTICE WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK IT'S A WIN ON EVERY LEVEL.
FIRST, OF COURSE, THE DESIGN, BUT ALSO THE RESOURCES THAT YOU BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU. WELL SAID. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
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WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.I SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION.
MOTION BY MISS MINUTE. SECOND BY MR. LESTER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. CAN I JUST ADD THAT? MAKE SURE THIS INFLATABLE SKIN IS FULLY, FULLY THOUGHT OUT. I JUST, I STILL DON'T, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I GET IT, I KNOW IT SOUNDS HOLDS IT. AND I I CAN'T TELL FROM THE SECTION, SO I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL WORK ON IT, BUT SO AND THAT IT, THAT IT COVERS THE TENT STRUCTURE.
AND I'M SURE THE CITY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AFTER THE HURRICANE CONCERNS. AND YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE PART OF THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT. YEAH. YEAH. WE HAVE WE HAVE CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE FINISHES AND THE, THE SEMI-TRANSPARENT MATERIAL TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF, CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA AND OR DIRECTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
SO WE WILL TAKE THAT AS DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. GREAT JOB GUYS.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME. VERY NICE. THANK YOU.
WE NEED TO VOTE OR GOOD JOB. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE.
I WAS I WAS TALKING TOO MUCH. YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS GUYS.
THANK YOU. A MOTION I'M LIKE I'M TRYING TO GO BY THE RULES HERE.
I TRY TO GO BY THE RULES, BUT LIKE I BUT I'M NOT KEEPING UP WITH THEM.
WE NEED A, WE NEED A MOTION AND THEN WE NEED A, THEN WE NEED A SECOND AND THEN WE NEED A VOTE.
A WHOLE DAY AND NIGHT. WE NEED ALL THAT. ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. TAKE CARE GUYS.
CONGRATS. THANK YOU. ANDRES, GO. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
ROGELIO. WE HAD SPOKEN BEFORE, BUT THERE'S TWO ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP.
NUMBER ONE, AN EASY ONE. I THINK THAT WE'RE AT.
ONE OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ALSO BROUGHT IT UP IS THAT IF WE COULD HAVE AN OPTION TO SIGN YES OR NO TO RECEIVE HAND-DELIVERED PACKAGES TO OUR HOMES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I PERSONALLY RATHER SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND NOT HAVE THOSE HAND-DELIVERED PACKAGES, AND I CAN JUST GET IT ELECTRONICALLY. MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING. KIND OF LIKE THE BANK. DO YOU WANT YOUR BANK STATEMENTS MAILED OR DIGITAL.
I WOULD NOT JUST SAY FOR THIS BOARD. THE OTHER THING IS RIGHT NOW, DEVELOPMENTS FOR HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY ONLY PERMIT YOU TO BUILD OUT A 25% OF THE ROOF AS A ROOF DECK AND AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND DEALING WITH A LOT OF THE HOUSES THROUGHOUT HERE IN MIAMI BEACH, IT LOOKS SO RIDICULOUS WHEN YOU WALK UP TO A ROOF OF A HOUSE THAT'S $20 MILLION AND THERE IS 25% THAT HAS LIKE THREE CHAIRS ON A LITTLE TABLE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU CAN'T WALK ON VERSUS HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACKS OF A PROPERTY DICTATE OR SOMETHING ELSE DICTATE WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THE ROOF WITHOUT HAVING IT LOOK KIND OF LIKE OUT OF PROPORTION AND IT REALLY LOOKS OUT OF PROPORTION.
IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU WALK A $20 MILLION HOUSE AND THEN YOU GO UP THE STAIRS, YOU WALK UP THE ROOF AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S IT. LET ME GO BACK DOWN. AND THERE'S NO NEED.
THAT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING DONE IN ORDER FOR US TO.
YOU LEAD THE WAY OF HOW IT HAPPENS OF OF MODIFYING THAT.
SO SO THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THOSE GET TRANSMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS A LETTER TO COMMISSION. SO IF IF IF THE BOARD AGREES AND YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO DO X, Y, AND Z, AND THEN I'LL PREPARE AN LTC, AND WE'LL GET IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THEY CAN DECIDE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE. BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OTHERS HERE AGREE WITH WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT I COULD SHOW YOU MANY PICTURES WHERE IT JUST LOOKS ABSOLUTELY OUT OF PLACE AND RIDICULOUS.
SO WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES TODAY THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LIMITS.
TWO LIMITS. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SETBACKS. SO THE CODE REQUIRES THAT ROOF DECKS HAVE A SETBACK OF TEN FEET FROM THE, FROM THE OUTER WALLS OF THE FLOOR IMMEDIATELY BELOW.
IT DOES PROVIDE AN EXEMPTION. IF IT'S A WATERFRONT LOT, THEN THE WATERFRONT PORTION CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE EDGE. BUT ALL OF THE OTHER SIDES, THE SIDES, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE A TEN FOOT SETBACK FROM THE OUTER FACE OF THE,
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OF THE, OF THE FLOOR BELOW. AND THEN THE OTHER LIMITATION IS THE 25% THAT YOU MENTIONED.SO PERHAPS IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE JUST ELIMINATE 25% RESTRICTION AND BASE IT ON THE SETBACKS? THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION. YEAH. IS THERE LIKE A LEEWAY FOR A WAIVER RIGHT NOW OR IT'S JUST LIKE 25, IT'S 25%. WHAT DOES HAPPEN IS, IS IT APPLICANTS WILL REQUEST VARIANCES ON OCCASION.
TYPICALLY THEY THEY ARE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT THERE'S A HARDSHIP IF THE HOUSE HAS SOME SORT OF AN IRREGULAR SHAPE AND CUTTING OFF A SECTION OF IT JUST REALLY DOESN'T WORK FOR THE STRUCTURE. AND SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL GET A VARIANCE FOR A SMALL PERCENTAGE.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT MORE THAN 2 OR 3, MAYBE 4%.
THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY, PRETTY SMALL. BUT THERE'S OTHERS THAT DON'T EVEN SUBMIT IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE OUR TIME BECAUSE IT'S SO RIDICULOUS THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SPEND THE MONEY. IF YOU COULD ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE CHAIRS UP THERE.
SO PERHAPS WHEN DID THAT GO INTO EFFECT? WAS IT ALWAYS THAT WAY? IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE 12 YEARS NOW.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH ANDRES, BUT WHAT I DO NOT LIKE IS WHEN THEY START BUILDING STRUCTURES ON THAT ROOFTOP AND ACTUALLY START MAKING IT MORE THAN JUST ROOFTOP LIVING, YOU KNOW, BUT YET A THIRD OR FOURTH FLOOR, IT COULD SNOWBALL, RIGHT? NO, BUT I'M NOT SAYING TO CHANGE THAT.
YOU'RE NOT SOMEBODY'S NOT PROPOSING TO ENCLOSE SOMETHING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING IS THAT YOU HAVE A ROOF ENCLOSED OF 25%, AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS OPENING THAT YOU CAN'T USE. IT'S JUST LIKE I PROMISED YOU I COULD SEND YOU SO MANY PICTURES OF HOW BAD IT LOOKS.
SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING, THOUGH? I'M PROPOSING.
IS MY THOUGHT. WE'VE HAD PROJECTS COME HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER THAT I'VE BEEN HERE WHERE THEY PROPOSED PUTTING CANOPIES UP THERE AND TRELLISES AND BECOMING. I AGREE WITH YOU.
THE SETBACKS ARE ENOUGH. 25% MAY OR MAY NOT BE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
WHEN WHEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE ROOF DECK UP THERE.
BUT AS LONG AS MY OPINION, THERE ISN'T A ANOTHER STORY OF LIVING UP THERE, THERE ARE SOME PERMITTED OBSTRUCTIONS FOR ROOFS. WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE COME HERE HAVE BEEN TRELLISES WITH VINES AND CANOPIES.
AND THINK ABOUT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES. THEY REQUIRED A WAIVER.
EVEN EVEN IN PALM ISLAND, THE LOTS, MANY OF THE LOTS ARE 6000FT².
YOU COULD BUILD 3000FT² ON THAT LOT. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE 1500 ON THE FIRST FLOOR, 1500 ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN YOU HAVE 25% THAT YOU COULD USE OF THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE ROOF.
THAT MEANS YOU PROBABLY HAVE LIKE A 500 SQUARE FOOT SPACE UP THERE ON THE ROOF.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE SILLY. IT DOESN'T IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH ELEVATOR BULKHEADS GOING UP THERE OR POTENTIALLY STAIR BULKHEADS, LIKE BECAUSE IT GOES WITH HOW YOU THEN, YOU NO, I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING. I'M NOT ASKING TO CHANGE WHAT YOU CAN PUT UP THERE.
I'M ARGUING WITH YOU. I'M JUST SAYING. YEAH. COMES WITH. IF WE IF WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHAT'S CURRENT, THE RULE NOW DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING FOR IT TO MAKE SENSE.
25% IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. AND PERHAPS THE ASK IS WE MAKE THIS, WE GIVE THE SETBACKS A WAIVER REQUEST.
IS THAT THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE. YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO YOU HAVE A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHERE, I MEAN, I THINK A VARIANCE IS KIND OF A HARD ARGUMENT TO MAKE, RIGHT? IF IT'S PURELY BASED ON ESTHETICS OR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS A VALID POINT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT A VARIANCE IS FOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, A WAIVER WITH SOME LIMITATIONS AROUND THAT, LIKE HOW MUCH THEY CAN GO OUT.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, I AGREE. I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS COULD BE BAD IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, BUT IT SHOULD BE HELPFUL. AND VIEW. SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME SORT OF.
SO. SO THE CODE DOES HAVE SEPARATE REGULATIONS ON HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS REGARDING COVERED STRUCTURES.
SUCH STRUCTURES SHALL NOT EXCEED A COMBINED AREA OF 20% OF THE ENCLOSED FLOOR AREA IMMEDIATELY BELOW, IMMEDIATELY ONE FLOOR BELOW, AND SHALL BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET FROM THE PERIMETER OF THE ENCLOSED FLOOR BELOW.
SO THERE'S A SEPARATE THAT COULD STAY THE SAME. YEAH, THAT COULD STAY THE SAME. SO EVEN IF THE DECK GETS LARGER, THE CANOPY IS STILL THE SAME LIMITATION THAT EXISTED PRIOR BECAUSE WE REGULATE THAT SEPARATE FROM THE DECK ITSELF.
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SO STAIRS WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO OPEN UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND YOU'D HAVE TO WALK UP AND BE OPEN AIR ONCE YOU GET TO GET TO THE ROOFTOP, WHICH MAKES SENSE. YEAH, YEAH. AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IN MULTI-FAMILY HOMES, THEY ARE ALLOWED.BUT, BUT SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE THAT 25% RESTRICTION, BUT LEAVE THE, THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE. AND PROPOSE THAT TO THE COMMISSION AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY IS MY THOUGHT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT REALLY HAS TO BE A CASE BY CASE SCENARIO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORS AND VISIBILITY AND HOW IT AFFECTS, I THINK, ANY KIND OF BLANKET. WELL, THE VISIBILITY, AS HE SAID, IT'S STILL ONLY GOING TO BE A 20.
YOU SAID 20%. THE COVERED STRUCTURE IS LIMITED TO 20%.
THAT WON'T EVER CHANGE. SO THERE'S NO VISIBILITY THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT.
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD AFFECT IS THAT YOU COULD LITERALLY JUST WALK AROUND MORE ON THE ROOF AREA, RIGHT? BUT THE VISIBILITY, WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE VISIBILITY BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT REGULATION.
I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING DON'T, DON'T BOX ME IN THAT.
I CAN ONLY WALK IN 25% OF MY ROOF WHEN I HAVE THIS ROOF UP THERE.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT. DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD DISCUSS WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THEN COME BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AS A DEPARTMENT OF WHAT SHOULD GO TO THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE THIS MAY AFFECT OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE NOT THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.
FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK WHAT YOU COULD DO IS JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE GENERAL BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF LET'S SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER PICKS UP ON THIS AND REFERS IT, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEN TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AND IT WOULD LIKELY BE REFERRED TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AS WELL. AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE REFINED, AND THEY CAN DETERMINE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE AS PART OF A WAIVER OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED AS OF. RIGHT? SO YOU MAY JUST WANT TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION. EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR INCREASING THE THE DECK AREA, INCLUDING REMOVING THE 25%.
THAT'S GOOD FOR ME. YEAH. AND NOW AREN'T YOU? ISN'T THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GOING FORWARD WITH SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR SETBACK FROM FIRST FLOOR THINGS OF THAT NATURE? SO THIS IS WHAT THE IDEA IS. WOULD THE IDEA BE TO GROUP ALL THESE LAND USE CHANGES TO THE PLANNING AT ONE POINT, OR DO YOU DO IT PIECEMEAL? SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S REFERRED.
SO WE HAVE A REFERRAL THAT'S PENDING TO SIMPLIFY THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME REGULATIONS.
IT'S SIMPLIFYING THE REGULATIONS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
SO I THINK THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THAT REFERRAL.
BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS NOT BE DONE SEPARATELY.
THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR WHAT CAN BE BUILT. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS NOT WHAT CAN BE BUILT.
THIS IS JUST THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO WALK AND USE WALKABILITY OF YOUR.
UTILIZE THE ROOF AND NOT BOX IT IN. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT COULD BE BUILT? I'M NOT ASKING TO TOUCH. I'M NOT ASKING TO CHANGE OR MODIFY ANY OF THAT.
I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING, DON'T MAKE ME PUT A GATE AROUND THAT.
I CAN ONLY WALK IN 25% OF MY ROOF. OKAY, SO IF THAT'S THE, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO WHAT IS THE MOTION? SO TO TRANSMIT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR LARGER ROOF DECKS, INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THE 25% LIMITATION FOR ROOF DECKS WHILE CONTINUING THE OTHER LIMITATIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST, KEEPING THE SETBACKS AND KEEPING THE 20% RESTRICTION OF THE CANOPY AREA THAT COULD BE BUILT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT MODIFYING ANY OBSTRUCTION.
WE'RE NOT MODIFYING WHAT SOMEBODY COULD, YOU KNOW, BUILD BIGGER.
IT'S JUST I COULD WALK IN MORE SPACE. SO IT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION.
CORRECT. SO I'LL SECOND THIS WOULD GO TO PLANNING FROM HERE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
IT WOULD BE NO, IT WOULD BE AN LTC TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
ONE OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT ON AND REFER IT.
OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE FULL CITY COMMISSION. AND THE WHOLE CITY COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO REFER IT TO THE BOARD, AND THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS WOULD TRIGGER JUST A WAIVER. YES THEY WOULD. THEY WANT THE MECHANICS OF IT.
DO WE WANT TO SUGGEST THAT OR WE LEAVE THAT UP.
IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. IF YOU LEAVE IT GENERAL THEN THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
IF IT'S A WAIVER OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS LIKE IT'S AS OF RIGHT THING. I LIKE THE LITTLE LIMITATION ON IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE PUT A LOT OF STUFF UP THERE AND THEN IT JUST,
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BUT THERE ARE IT SNOWBALLS INTO SOMEBODY'S PLAYGROUND ON THE ROOF? NO, IT'S WATER SLIDES, WATER SLIDES. AND THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A PROBABLY A REASON KEEPING ROOFS.YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY IT'S IT'S IT'S LOOKS SO RIDICULOUS.
IT REALLY DOES. I MEAN, WE'RE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THESE SPACES. AND RIGHT NOW YOU COULD ONLY BUILD THEM 50% OF THE LOT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT'S TAKEN UP ON THE GROUND LEVEL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING UNDER STORIES, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU SHOULD HAVE A SMOOTHER USE OF YOUR ROOF TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAN THE WAY THAT A LOT OF THESE HOMES ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT.
AND, AND THEY LACK THAT SMOOTH AREA ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
OUTDOOR KITCHENS THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING. YEAH.
BUT THEY WANT MORE LIMITATION. SO IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE A WAIVER, IF YOU REQUIRE THIS AS PART OF A WAIVER, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, AND IT WOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.
HOWEVER, IT WOULDN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF REVIEW OF A VARIANCE.
DOES DOES THE DESIGN LOOK OKAY? IS IT DOES IT.
THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW SO THAT WOULD BE THE WAIVER PROCESS.
IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THIS BOARD. BUT IF THE 25% IS MADE BIGGER TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO WALK AROUND THEIR ROOFTOP, KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE CONSTANT, THE SETBACK, THE CANOPY SIZE AND ALL THAT.
WHY REQUIRE THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF COMING TO THIS BOARD IF ALL THE OTHER LIMITATIONS ARE THERE, OR YOU'RE ALLOWING THEM TO DO IS WALK AROUND AND PUT A CHAIR, MAYBE OUTSIDE THE 25%.
WHY THEN COME TO THIS BOARD AND GO THROUGH THE TIME AND EXPENSE OF COMING TO THIS BOARD? I THINK THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT IT.
RIGHT. AND THEY CAN DECIDE, BUT I'LL TAKE ANYTHING.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IT. WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS.
IT'S RIDICULOUS THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO YEAH, IF WE REMOVE IT ALL TOGETHER, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. IF SOMEBODY COULD COME IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AND WE COULD AND THE STAFF COULD APPROVE IT. SO I LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BOARD OF HOW THE HOW YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS CAME FROM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPECULATE PRIVACY, I CAN SPECULATE, A CHAIR GETS PUT OVER THERE AND IT'S IT'S A DANGER TO A HURRICANE WIND SITUATION.
SO IT AT A MINIMUM TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAVE AN OLDER HOUSE AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTION ON OUR ROOF, BUT I MENTIONED WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT AND WHAT, WHAT ITS HISTORY WAS AROUND IT SO AS TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS JUST A KIND OF A, A ONE TIME THING OR SOMETHING THAT EXISTS FOR REAL LEGITIMATE SAFETY REASON.
DO YOU HAVE FULL ACCESS TO YOUR ROOF? YES. AND HOW NICE IS THAT? IT'S HOT UP THERE, BUT IT'S IT'S LOVELY, BUT IT'S A 1930S HOUSE, BUT THE OPTION THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU COULD USE YOUR WHOLE ROOF, IT'S NICE TO HAVE. AND THAT'S. BUT HER HOUSE WAS PROBABLY BUILT LOWER, RIGHT? SO LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO JUST FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO US BECAUSE THEY CAN UNDERSTAND MY REASONING, LOOKING DOWN AT THEM, IF I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH. OKAY, SO SO IS THE MOTION AMENDED TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR LARGER ROOF DECKS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WAIVER, OR DO YOU WANT TO LIST BOTH? I'M FINE WITH LIFTING BOTH. LIFTING BOTH. YEAH.
OKAY. BOTH. I CAN'T SEE HOW SOMEONE CAN COME UP WITH A HARDSHIP TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR ROOF, A LEGITIMATE HARDSHIP AND A HARDSHIP, BUT FOR A VARIANCE.
YOU DO? YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR VARIANCE.
WHY COME HERE UNLESS THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING BEYOND WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THE CODE? IF THERE'S SETBACKS, I AGREE WITH YOU. IF THERE'S CANOPY RESTRICTIONS.
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ALL THESE PROPERTIES HAVE A RESTRICTION THAT OR A REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN A STORM COMES AND IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THESE ROOFTOP LIVABLE AREAS, THEY NEED TO REMOVE WHATEVER STRUCTURES ARE UP THERE DURING A STORM, BE IT A CHAIR, BE IT A POTTED PLANT, A CANOPY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE REMOVED.IT SHOULDN'T BE A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO BABYSIT THAT.
BUT NOW IF THEY WANT SOMETHING BEYOND WHAT THE CODE WILL ALLOW.
YES, I THINK I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THE 25% IF AND AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE DO NEED TO ANALYZE THIS. IF IT IS THE WILL TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WAIVER, YOU COULD DO 25% ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AND IF YOU WANT TO EXCEED THAT, YOU WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER GRANTED BY THE DRB.
I THINK THAT'S THE THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK. IF THAT'S THE THE WAY WE PROCEED.
OTHERWISE, WE JUST REMOVE THE 25% ALTOGETHER AND JUST ALLOW LEAVE THE SETBACKS, LEAVE THE SETBACKS, AND ALL THE OTHER LIMITATIONS. IT SAYS THAT MORE RECENT ORDINANCES IN SOME CONTEXTS INCREASED ALLOWABLE ROOFTOP DECK AREAS TO 50% OF THE FLOOR AREA IMMEDIATELY BELOW, DEPENDING ON ZONING DISTRICT AND DESIGN APPROVALS.
25% OF THE ROOF CAN ONLY BE USED IS IT MAY BE AN OLD THIS MAY HAVE ALREADY EVOLVED AS IS WORTH LOOKING INTO BECAUSE THE IT WAS AN OLDER ZONING PROVISION.
YEAH. THE, THE 25% LIMIT HAS BEEN THERE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BEFORE UNDER STORIES CAME INTO BEING.
EXACTLY. BUT THERE ARE SOME RECENT ORDINANCES ALLOWING 50%.
SO I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK MAYBE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, LET'S LOOK AT THIS BY ASKING PLANNING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND SEE WHAT OTHER RAMIFICATIONS, WHAT MAKES SENSE SO THAT IT'S NOT I THINK THE VOTERS FOR THEM TO REVIEW IS OUT OF, OUT OF THE REACH IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CODES WE MAY HAVE, BUT ALSO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US.
THESE ROOFTOP LIVING IS COMING UP MORE. I HEAR YOUR HOUSE IS IN THE 30S.
IS IT A ONE STOREY OR TWO STOREY, THREE STOREY, THREE STOREY? YEAH, NO ONE THAT'S LIKE THAT, BUT THE, THE THE YEAH, IT'S COME MORE, IT'S BECOME MORE OF A, OF A, OF A DESIGN NOW WITH I BELIEVE THE UPPER STOREYS AND THE, AND THE FLAT ROOFS, YOU KNOW, IN THE BOXES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE CAN GO DO STUFF UP THERE.
SO IT'S EVOLVED TO THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF IT BEFORE.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN THIS WAS DONE THIS, MORE HOMES WERE PROBABLY PITCHED 25%.
THE, THE 50% THAT YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO IS ALLOWED IN ALL OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO IF YOU'RE IN A, IN A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, YOU'RE ALLOWED 50% OF THE, OF THE AS A HEIGHT EXCEPTION. YEAH. IF YOU'RE BELOW THE MAXIMUM.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING. THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND. IF YOU'RE BELOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT, YOUR ROOF DECK CAN BE, CAN BE LARGER. SO THIS IS ONLY WHERE IT'S AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT EXCEPTION.
SO IF YOU ARE BELOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN 25% CASES.
YEAH. I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT TRYING, YOU KNOW, SCALE AND NOT NOT HAVING PEOPLE BUILDING IN MAJOR PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON ROOFS AND THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
YEAH. SO WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE SUMMARIZING HERE? SO I HAVE I HAVE AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE PROVIDE BOTH OPTIONS TO AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IT IS, IT IS A GENERAL TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR LARGER ROOF DECKS, INCLUDING REMOVAL OF THE 25% LIMITATION FOR THE ROOF DECKS WHILE MAINTAINING ALL OTHER RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIRING THAT INCREASES BEYOND 25%, BE SUBJECT ONLY TO A WAIVER AS OPPOSED TO A VARIANCE.
IT'S A VERY GENERAL REQUEST FOR THEM TO EXPLORE.
AND IN THEIR DECISION, WEIGHING THE TWO OPTIONS, THEY CAN LOOK AT WHY THE 25% CAME TO BE AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WILL. AND HOW MANY APPLICATIONS ARE ASKING FOR THIS? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TRANSMIT THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION MOTION?
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SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR.. SECOND BY MISS LEWIN.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. I HAVE A QUESTION.
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THAT IS. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THERE'D BEEN SO MANY, SO MANY COMMUNICATIONS PRIOR TO THE PRESENTATIONS.AND I JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU THAT WE ARE DOING THIS PROPERLY.
AND PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. LIKE A ROBOT FOR THE.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE RULES SURROUNDING EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
SO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES LET ME PULL UP THE SECTION.
IT'S 2-512. I THOUGHT. YOU DIDN'T GET ONE. THIS.
ONE TEXT. YEAH. SO THE CODE REQUIRES YOU TO DISCLOSE A COMMUNICATION THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM A, AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR OR REALLY ANYONE WHO'S APPEARING BEFORE YOU IN YOUR QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY.
YOU HAVE TO JUST DISCLOSE THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON.
AND THEN THE, THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION.
SO THAT'S HOW THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS WORKS. DID WE COMPLY? YOU DID. I DIDN'T I DID NOT SAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THIS PERSON.
AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC FORMULA, BUT YOU DID SAY THAT YOU SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT AND YOU AND YOU MET WITH THEM AND THEN YOU AND THAT YOU WENT TO THE YOU VISITED THE SITE.
OKAY. SO THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR OUR PURPOSES. OKAY.
YEAH. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL IN SOME WAYS, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT IT CAN ALSO BE A PROBLEM LATER ON BECAUSE THERE ARE COMMUNICATIONS MADE MAYBE TO YOU, AND YET THEY'RE NOT DISCLOSED IN THE ENTIRE BOARD BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST SAYING, I MET WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, AND WE TALKED ABOUT X, Y, Z. WELL, THE AND THE REASON FOR THE DISCLOSURE AND THE REASON WHY MY PREFERENCE IS FOR THE DISCLOSURE TO TAKE PLACE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN CROSS-EXAMINE YOU ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION THAT YOU HAD.
SO USUALLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S THE THE IDEA.
OH, INTERESTING. YEAH. ROGELIO. THERE WAS IN THE PRESENTATION WITH I FORGET WHICH OF THE TWO, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE BY I DON'T KNOW IF THE BERCAW GROUP OR, OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT THERE'S A CODE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU OBTAIN. I THINK IT HAD TO DO WITH THE WEST AVENUE PROJECT THAT YOU OBTAIN CONSENSUS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE NEIGHBORS. OR YEAH, I'LL CALL IT CONSENSUS OR APPROVAL.
RECOMMENDATION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT LET'S SAY I'M BUILDING A HOUSE, SHOULD I NOT HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION OR LETTER SAYING YES OR NO FROM MY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN LIMIT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS BASED ON. YEAH, THE NEIGHBOR DOES NOT GET A VETO.
YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE I SEE THAT SOMETIMES IT'S DONE AND SOMETIMES IT ISN'T.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, AND NOT THAT THEY, THAT THEY, THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT IT BY SAYING, OH, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE, THE, THE WAIVER BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH DOESN'T WANT IT.
BUT JUST FOR US AS A BOARD TO KNOW WHETHER THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO ANY OF YOU? ARE YOU SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY PRIVATE SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILIES? SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
SO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A MAIL NOTICE, WHICH GOES TO ALL ON ANY PROJECT,
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ON ANY PROJECT COMING BEFORE A BOARD. THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY EVERYONE WITHIN 375FT.AND THAT'S FOR ALL OF OUR, OUR, ALL FOUR OF OUR LAND USE BOARDS, THE.
AND THAT'S SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS CAN PROVIDE THIS BOARD WITH FEEDBACK SO THAT YOU CAN DETERMINE IF MODIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERN WITHOUT NECESSARILY STOPPING SOMEONE FROM BEING ABLE TO BUILD A HOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADDRESS THINGS.
NO, THAT'S THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SEE THIS LITTLE RED SIGN IN FRONT OF A PROPERTY AND WHAT THE HECK? AND THEY'RE DRIVING. THEY'RE NOT WALKING, SO THEY NEVER STOP TO SEE IT.
OTHERS SAY, I NEVER GOT THE LETTER IN THE MAIL, YOU KNOW, OR THEY GET IT AND THEY JUST.
OH. CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND THEY TOSS IT OUT AND AND WE WHEN WE'RE HAVING OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH APPLICANTS, WE ALWAYS STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS SO THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN ADVANCE OF COMING TO THE BOARD.
AND THAT WAY, IDEALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET NEIGHBORS COMING AND SAYING, I LOVE THIS PROJECT.
YEAH. OKAY. ARE THERE, AREN'T THERE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR A LOT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS? YEAH. SOME OF THEM ARE MORE ACTIVE THAN OTHERS, LIKE ALTON ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
THE PRESIDENT LIVES IN WHAT THEY, WE REFER TO AS LOWER ALTON.
AND, AND THEY DON'T BECOME AS ACTIVE. SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE MORE ACTIVE THAN OTHERS.
I WOULD SAY DALLAS AND I KNOW THAT LOWER ALTON.
I DIDN'T KNOW LOWER ALTON. LOWER. YEAH. LOWER.
MIDDLE AND. AND UPPER. THERE ARE SOME VERY ACTIVE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE 70 THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE SAID LAST TIME WE WANTED TO DRAFT SOMETHING.
SO THAT IS, I THINK, OUR LAST ITEM. SORRY. YES.
THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF THE SITE PLAN. THAT WAS ALL CONTINUED TO JUNE.
SO THAT'S COMING BACK BEFORE THE BOARD IN JUNE.
THE BOARD DID REQUEST THAT THERE BE A DISCUSSION THIS MONTH ON THE AGENDA.
AND THAT WAS TO DISCUSS IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION SEPARATE FROM THE, FROM THE ACTUAL DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL. THE BIG RECOMMENDATION THAT I RECALL WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS BE REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD FOR OPERATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER GO BEFORE THE PLANNING.
SO IF THIS WAS BEING DONE BY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, LET'S SAY THERE WAS A HOUSING COMPONENT AND THEN ATTACHING A COMMUNITY CENTER TO IT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S ENTIRELY BEING DEVELOPED BY THE CITY, IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. MAYBE PROJECTS LIKE THAT SHOULD GO BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, EVEN IF IT'S SOLELY DONE BY THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW. THE CHAIR I THERE WAS. I WILL SAY THAT BY THE TIME A PROJECT GETS HERE, IT'S GONE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY MULTIPLE TIMES. I MEAN MULTIPLE TO TRY AND GET CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OR THAT COMMERCIAL ASSOCIATION, LIKE ANYTHING FOR LINCOLN ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING FROM LINCOLN ROAD TODAY ON THIS PROJECT, BUT USUALLY THEY, THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THEY GET SENT TO THOSE BOARDS AND, AND GET APPROVAL FROM THEM.
AS FAR AS US AS A BOARD GIVING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION OR GIVING A THOUGHT TO THE COMMISSION THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION AS A BOARD OUTSIDE OF DESIGN.
I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT PROJECT, AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS HERE MAY HAVE CONCERN.
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AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT A PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THAT SITE, IT'S NOT GOING TO PLANNING. AND ALSO IT'S NOT MAYBE HAVING A PRIVATE SECTOR MINDSET TO THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE IT IS ABSURD TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL EAST FACING FACADE OF A BUILDING AND PUT PARKING SPACES ALONG THE WHOLE ENTIRE FACADE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, RETAIL.I WOULD JUST KEEP IT MORE TO THE, TO THE POLICY.
WELL, IT'S WHAT I SAID LAST TIME REGARDLESS. SO BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, BUT REGARDLESS, THAT'S MY THOUGHT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE SUGGESTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE, WHAT WE BROUGHT UP. AND I ASKED IF WE COULD MAKE THAT SAME SUGGESTION AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO. AND MYRA, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THESE BE INDIVIDUALLY IF IF IF IT'S AN ISSUE OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION AS A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, IF WE'RE TALKING IF IF OUR CONCERN IS AN OPERATIONAL CONCERN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR ROLE HERE, ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES WE'VE TAKEN IT UP AS A ROLE, BUT IT'S NOT OUR ROLE. SO WE'RE STEPPING OUT OF OUT OF LINE WITH THAT.
BUT IF IT CONCERNS FLOOR PLAN OR, YOU KNOW, WHICH FALLS INTO WHAT ANDRES IS SAYING OR DESIGN, I THINK THAT'S WITHIN OUR ROLE AND AS A BOARD, WE WE CAN ALL SEND AS A BOARD A LETTER TO THE COMMISSION.
I COULD GO EITHER WAY. WHETHER THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL OR IS THERE MORE IMPACT COMING FROM US AS A AS A GROUP? I THINK THERE ARE, I GOT MY OWN CONCERNS WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
BUT IT COMES TO US BAKED. YEAH, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
IT'S WELL BAKED BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT BY THE COMMUNITY.
YEAH WE ARE WE WASTING OUR TIME JUST TALKING ABOUT IT OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS THE IMPACT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POOLS THAT WAS LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT AND THAT WAS PART OF IT.
THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED ALL THE TIME BASED ON NEED AND WHAT THE.
REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THAT AREA BASED ON WHAT ELSE IS AROUND THERE TO PROVIDE THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S A COMMUNITY BASED DESIGN.
WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT ON THAT ONE SENTENCE. WE WEREN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, OH, THIS IS THIS IS WHY OR THIS IS WHY IT MAKES SENSE.
SO IT IS SO DISJOINTED. I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY MADE TO BE THE BAD GUYS, WE'RE WASTING A LOT OF PEOPLE'S TIME AND MONEY, AND WE'RE ALSO NOT EVEN GIVEN A FULL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.
SO OKAY, THE COMMUNITY SAID IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE COMMUNITY WAS OR IF, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE QUESTIONED, IS IT A PERSON FROM THE BUILDING OR THE HEAD OF THE BOARD? I MEAN, THERE IS SO MUCH I AGREE THAT'S NOT RIGHT IN THAT PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. IT MAY HAVE ALSO.
IT MAY HAVE ALSO GONE BEFORE THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR STANCE WAS ON IT. IF THEY YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN THE SCOT RICA YOUTH CENTER ICE RINK WAS EXPANDED THE SIZE WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAUSED 98 COMMUNITY MEETINGS, POSTPONED THE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE 98 COMMUNITY MEETINGS BECAUSE THE DECISION WOULDN'T BE MADE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AS TO WHAT THE FINAL SIZE OF THAT ICE SKATING RINK WOULD BE. SO. WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NO PRIVATE DEVELOPER IN THE WORLD THAT WOULD
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TAKE AN EAST WALL AND PUT PARKING SPACES. SO.SO BACK TO OUR, WHAT WE SUGGESTED LAST MONTH WAS, DO WE WANT TO AS A AS A BOARD SUBMIT SOMETHING OR DO WE WANT TO DO THIS INDIVIDUALLY? I THINK IT'S GOING TO.
THEY'RE GOING TO DELAY THE PROJECT TO MAKE A MODIFICATION.
DESIGN. OPERATIONAL ELEMENTS. I MEAN, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS BY BY NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S A LOT OF SWAYING OF, OF VOTES AND THOUGHTS.
SO IF THE DRB WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A GENERAL RECOMMENDATION NOT AS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT THAT FUTURE CITY GOVERNMENT, PUBLIC PRIVATE PROJECTS RECEIVE ADDITIONAL ADVISORY REVIEW BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, THE DESIGN REVIEW LIKE WHERE THAT, WHERE YOUR PURVIEW IS THERE, BUT, BUT THAT'S POTENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT, THAT STAFF CAN WORK ON AND BRING BACK.
I, I AGREE AND LOOK, THIS IS MORE OF A HOLISTIC THING.
I THINK IT ISN'T JUST A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR A GOVERNMENT PROJECT, BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT WHAT SHOULD THE PROCESS BE TO DETERMINE THAT THIS AREA NEEDS THIS LIKE A YOUTH CENTER AND WHAT SHOULD THAT YOUTH CENTER HAVE? WHO SHOULD IT GO TO? PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. PLANNING BOARD. THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONES TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT THEY NEED, AND THEN IT SHOULD ALWAYS GO TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
I THINK LIKE MAYBE AFTER WE GET COMMUNITY INPUT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN, OKAY, WE WANT ALL OF THESE THINGS, BUT HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO THE SITE? LIKE, IS THE SITE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY AND IN A GOOD WAY SUPPORT THE SITE? SO MAYBE THERE'S THAT SECOND LEVEL OF OVERVIEW, AND PROBABLY THAT'S FOR THE PLANNING BOARD OR FOR PARKS AND REC TO JUST KIND OF VISUALIZE HOW, HOW THAT SITE CAN RESPOND TO THOSE NEEDS.
AND MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MORE THE DIRECTION WE GO OR RECOMMEND.
WHY IS PLANNING INVOLVED JUST BECAUSE IT'S A CITY PROJECT.
SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE IN THE CD2 DISTRICT ACROSS THE STREET.
IT REQUIRES IF YOU HAVE A USE THAT EXCEEDS 25,000FT², THAT HAS TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
THE REST OF THE PROJECTS ARE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
I MEAN, NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN THE TOWN CENTER. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. SO THE CODE SETS DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS FOR WHEN SOMETHING REQUIRES PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL.
AND DEPENDS ON THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO IN THE CASE OF THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENT USE ZONING DISTRICT, IT'S ONLY WHEN THERE'S A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. SO BYPASS PLANNING BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THEN SO SO THE FLOOR PLANS WEREN'T REVIEWED BY ALL PARTIES.
WE BASICALLY ARE BUILDING TWO POOLS, ONE FOR RECREATION AND ONE FOR MIAMI BEACH SENIOR HIGH.
SO WE HAVE A POOL AT FLAMINGO. WE HAVE A POOL AT SCOTT RICO.
WE HAVE ANOTHER POOL ON NORMANDY DRIVE, NORMANDY PARK.
I'M NOT FOR I'M NOT FOR SPENDING TIME THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE ANOTHER SET OF EYES OF PEOPLE WE TRUST GOING THROUGH PLANS FOR COMMUNITY BUILDINGS. SO BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE RESPONDING TO LIKE A WISH LIST OF THINGS AND THEN IT'S NOT REALLY.
[03:05:05]
AND FOR THE SITE. YEAH. AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, THE ADMINISTRATION GETS PULLED IN 100 DIRECTIONS AND THE COMMUNITY PUSHES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. WHETHER IT'S AND THE COMMUNITY REALLY HAS TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT, THAT'S WHERE THEY LIVE.BUT USUALLY IT'S 5 OR 10 THAT SCREAM THE LOUDEST AND, AND THEY PUSH SO HARD, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION SOMETIMES SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? GIVE IT TO THEM. THAT'S WHY PLANNING. IS THAT WHY IT'S SEPARATED? SO THAT IT'S PURELY THIS THIS, THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY WAS PART OF THE GEO BOND.
AND THERE WAS A SET OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE AS PART OF THE THAT VOTER APPROVAL.
AND SO THOSE WHAT'S THERE IS, AND IT WAS A PACKAGE THAT WENT TO VOTER APPROVAL.
SO YOU COULDN'T SAY, WELL, I, I VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT NOT THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS A WHOLE PARKS AND RECREATION PACKAGE THAT WENT THROUGH EXTENSIVE COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THERE WAS A BOARD SET UP, A GEO BOND ADVISORY REVIEW BOARD, AND THEY HAD A WHOLE WEBSITE WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE BEING FUNDED. IT'S STILL UP, AND IT MENTIONS THE STATUS OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT.
HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL PLANNING BOARD, HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? TELL US WHAT TO DO. YEAH. WELL IT'S LIKE I SEE THAT AS, AS A, PRIMARILY A, AN OPERATIONAL OR PERHAPS A POLICY DECISION THAT IS NOT NOT A DESIGN REVIEW ISSUE THAT IS REALLY BEFORE YOU. BUT BECAUSE THE DESIGN REVIEW YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THE DESIGN OF THE OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS. BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO, TO RECONSIDER POLICY JUDGMENTS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AS THEY RELATE TO APPROVED PROJECTS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I JUST, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE, DOES IT HAPPEN ENOUGH THAT WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS MEETING THAT YOU KNOW, LIKE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DECIDE ON, I GUESS, LIKE IS MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC OF X, Y, Z.
THEY'RE UNHAPPY WITH THESE THINGS, BUT THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION.
SO SHOULDN'T THERE BE ANOTHER LEVEL? OKAY, SO MAYBE THEN WE CAN IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT, MAYBE MAYBE IT'S NOT THE CONCERN. I MEAN, WE GET COMMUNITY COMING FORWARD LIKE WE DID TODAY WITH THE WEST AVENUE PROJECT.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST SAYING, OH, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. AND, AND A LOT OF IT, I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT, IS IT THE RESULT OF THE MAILER THAT THEY GET? I DON'T THINK SO. BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE FROM YEAH, YEAH.
FROM, YOU KNOW, BLOCKS BLOCKS AWAY. SO THEY'RE CONTACTED BY THE DEVELOPER OR THE PROJECT NOT THE DEVELOPER, BUT THE PRESENTER FOR THE PROJECT, THE BERCAW GROUP OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT.
THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T ASK THEM TO COME AND SPEAK IF YOU'RE NOT IN IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S WHO WE GET, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SOMEONE WILL BE CONCERNED AND THEY'LL SPEAK. AND I GUESS IT'S.
JUSTIN SAID WE COULD SCRUTINIZE THE FLOOR PLANS OF SOMETHING IF WE REALLY FELT LIKE WE WANTED TO ON A ON A PROJECT LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. CAN WE DOES THE FLOOR PLAN RIGHT? DOES THE FLOOR PLAN? IS THAT PART OF OUR JURISDICTION? THE PROBLEM IS THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF DOLLARS WITH THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS TO TRY TO GET INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, A VARIANCE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I MY MIND IS GOING THAT WAY.
LIKE, OH, ANDRES IS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE EAST FACING, RIGHT.
SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, COULD, COULD THAT HAVE BEEN PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE? COULD THAT BE ANOTHER ROOM? COULD THEY USE IT? LIKE WHAT'S THEIR, WHAT'S THEIR TEN YEAR PLAN FOR THE WHOLE PARKING GARAGE? AND THEN WE HOLD IT UP AND WE SAY, COME BACK TO US WITH THAT.
RIGHT. IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT CIRCLE? I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THE CONCERN HERE IS THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR A MODIFICATION.
[03:10:04]
SO THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN ITS ENTIRETY. YEAH.WHICH ARE THOSE SPECIFIC MODIFICATIONS. YEAH.
THAT'S THAT'S WHY I TRY TO LOOK ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO IF IT WAS THE FIRST TIME AROUND, I WOULD SAY BY ALL MEANS COMMENT.
COMMENT AT THIS POINT BY THE TIME THEY COME HERE.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF GETTING AT BEFORE.
LIKE IF WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, THAT WAS LIKE, WE'RE UNHAPPY WITH IT, WHICH I GUESS I HAVEN'T SEEN IT THEN LIKE, REALLY? DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE? BUT IT CAME IT CAME TO US LAST YEAR RIGHT BEFORE EVEN I WAS HERE, I THINK. RIGHT. I THINK IT WAS SHORTLY BEFORE YOU STARTED.
YES. YEAH. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE AND THERE WERE SOME I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, BUT THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED AT THAT POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF CONCERNS OF THE PARKING WERE AN ISSUE.
I REMEMBER TELLING THEM, YOU HAVE TO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
YOU'VE GOT THIS CABLE GOING ACROSS HARDING AVENUE.
YOU KNOW, WE LOOK LIKE A DECADE OF CAROUSEL OF PROGRESS FROM DISNEY, YOU KNOW.
AND THEY SAID, OH, IT'S TOO HARD. WELL, YEAH, NOTHING WORTHWHILE IS EASILY ATTAINED.
BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T BOTHER DOING IT. SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COME TO US AND THEY'RE IN SOMEWHAT OF A SCHEMATIC DESIGN, RIGHT? OR I MEAN, I DON'T, I WASN'T THERE, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY'RE COMING TO US IN THAT LEVEL, THEN WE CAN MAKE LAYOUT SUGGESTIONS ON, ON A SCALE LIKE THAT, THEN THEY HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THE REASON THEY STARTED THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
PROBABLY WHAT TRIGGERED IT WAS 3,035%. THE MASSING IS FINE.
IT WAS LOOKED UPON AS WELL. THE APPLICANT COME IN WHENEVER THEY WANT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIMITATIONS THAT THEY WANT US TO COME IN.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. EARLIER. THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S TYPICALLY TYPICALLY THEY COME IN JUST WHEN THEY HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN DRAWINGS.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURAL MECHANICAL OR ELECTRICAL DONE.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY REALIZED SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS, WE NEED TO CHANGE THEM.
AND SO THEY CAME BACK TO, TO MODIFY THOSE DESIGN ELEMENTS.
BUT IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY WERE HERE. THE FIRST TIME THEY WERE HERE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE POINT. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE TIME. YEAH. BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SCHEMATICS.
IT WAS JUST DESIGN. RIGHT. SOMETHING TO KEEP KEEP IN MIND FOR SURE.
SO WE ARE AGREEING TO JUST PERSONALLY REACH OUT.
REACH OUT. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH I THINK PLANNING SHOULD BE INVOLVED.
AND THAT MAY BE WHAT MY LETTER SAYS. YES. YEAH.
AND YOU COPY ALL OF US. AND THEN WE SAY WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ADAM.
NO. YOU SENT A LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER SAYING, I'M A MEMBER OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, AS THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY. IS THERE AND YOU COPY ALL OF US, AND THEN THE REST OF US CHIME IN IF WE WANT TO.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE SHARING WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW. NO.
THAT WOULD BE A SUNSHINE. SUNSHINE. IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
YEAH, BUT YOU'RE HAVING COMMUNICATIONS OUTSIDE OF.
YEAH. YOU CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ON THAT.
IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. SO ONCE YOU SEND IT IN AND IT'S GOOD, IT'S GOING TO THE COMMISSION.
AND THEY HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I ALSO WOULDN'T SEND IT ON IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A MEMBER OF THE JUST AS A PERSON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO PERSONALLY AND NOT IN YOUR CAPACITY HERE PETITION YOUR GOVERNMENT FOR CHANGES TO THE CODE, THEN YOU CAN DO THAT. BUT, BUT DEFINITELY DON'T COPY MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IN IT OR, OR YEAH, SIGN IT AS. ADAM MESHBERG CHAIR, YOU KNOW, SO.
ADAM ESSER PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. YEAH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO I GUESS WE CAN CONCLUDE IT'S STILL GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU NEXT MONTH, THE WHOLE PROJECT. SO SEE, SEE THE COLOR SCHEMES AND SEE WHAT NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE WHAT WE, WHAT WE SUGGESTED.
WE NEED TO NOT NOT ASSUME IT'S BAKED. WE NEED TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS OUR POINT.
THIS IS OUR IS OUR TIME. I PERSONALLY RAISED MY HAND NOT AS A BOARD MEMBER.
[03:15:04]
HERE. I WAS IN A BOARD MEMBER TO MANY PEOPLE WHEN I SAW THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO CHANGE ADMINISTRATION'S THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN THEY'RE ON THE HORSE AND THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE IS WHAT I'VE SEEN.
BUT I THINK WE, WE, WE WERE GIVEN, WE'RE GIVEN A RIGHT.
SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WELL, AS OF RIGHT, WE CAN DO THIS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU GUYS AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, RIGHT. BUT WE CAN AT LEAST SPEAK OUR MIND.
OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL CONCLUDE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THEN THE PROJECT WILL BE BACK BEFORE THE BOARD NEXT MONTH AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: June 11, 2026]
NEXT MEETING IS JUNE 11TH. JUNE 11TH. ALL RIGHT.ROGELIO, WOULD YOU SEND US THAT MOTION ONCE IT'S BAKED AND SENT OVER REGARDING THE ROOF RECOMMENDATION? YES. I'LL SEND A COPY OF THE LTC. AND IF YOU COULD SEND US ALSO THAT REQUEST, WHETHER WE LIKE DIGITAL OR WE WANT THE PRINTED VERSION TO EVERYBODY.
IT'LL BE GREAT TO NOT KILL ANY MORE TREES WITH A BIG PACKAGE.
I JUST I HATE THROWING IT AWAY, BUT THAT'S WHAT I DO.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT, I SECOND.
I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. RIGHT. I CAN'T. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SECOND MOTION.
NO, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO. SECOND. OH, WOW.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.