REMEMBER TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AS THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED FOR PUBLIC RECORD. 
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PLEASE STAND BY. WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN FIVE. 
          FOUR. THREE. TWO. ONE. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          WELCOME TO THE MARCH 30TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY OF
LIFE COMMITTEE. 
          I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR COMMITTEE LIAISON,
STEPHANIE, TO READ ANNOUNCEMENTS INTO THE RECORD. 
          GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BEING
PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. 
          MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON
MAY APPEAR AT THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. 
          MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR PROVIDE COMMENT VIRTUALLY DURING THE
MEETING MAY JOIN VIA ZOOM. 
          TODAY WE HAVE TWO ADDENDUM ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED. 
          WE HAVE ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS DISCUSSED THE GREEN JEFFERSON AVENUE BICYCLE LANE
WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IN MIAMI BEACH FIRE RESCUE. 
          AND WE HAVE ADDENDUM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS DISCUSSED. 
          TAKE ACTION REGARDING RENAMING VENETIAN WAY TO HONOR HAZEL ABRAMS. PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 82-503, WE WILL ALSO BE DEFERRING ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
WHICH IS DISCUSSED REGULATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SURROUNDING 
          [ DISCUSS REGULATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SURROUNDING MICROMOBILITY DEVICES]
MICROMOBILITY DEVICES. AND THOSE ARE ALL THE NOTES WE HAVE FOR TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA? OKAY. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, CAN WE SHOW THAT ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE BEFORE WE GO INTO TODAY'S MEETING,
I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY OUTLINE HOW I INTEND TO STRUCTURE OUR MEETING TODAY SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE FOCUSED AND PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION. 
          AS I REVIEWED THE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSING AND BECAME CLEAR THAT MANY OF THE ITEMS
BEFORE US THEY'RE NOT ISOLATED. 
          THEY'RE ACTUALLY, IN FACT, VERY INTERCONNECTED ITEMS. SO RATHER THAN TAKING THEM ONE BY ONE OR IN SILOS,
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER THAT WE WOULD ALL BE BETTER SERVED BY GROUPING THEM INTO CERTAIN CLUSTERS THAT KIND OF REFLECT, YES, THAT KIND OF REFLECT HOW THESE ITEMS ACTUALLY
SHOW UP IN THE REAL WORLD. 
          SO SO TODAY I'LL BE ORGANIZING OUR DISCUSSIONS INTO INTO ABOUT FOUR PARTS. 
          FIRST WE WILL BE TAKING UP ITEMS RELATED TO MICRO MOBILITY POLICY AND ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT MICRO MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ACCOMMODATIONS. 
          THIRD, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CERTAIN NORTH BEACH RELATED ITEMS RELATED TO LOG CABIN
AND THE WEST LOTS. 
          AND FINALLY, WE WILL TAKE UP THE NORTH BEACH AFFORDABLE HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM. 
          SO MY GOAL IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE
VERY MUCH INTERRELATED. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE INTO OUR AGENDA, HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP,
AS WE ALWAYS DO FOR THE NEXT CITIZENS FORUM RESIDENTS WISHING TO SPEAK. 
          WE'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM. 
          I SIMPLY ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND ON ZOOM IF YOU'RE PRESENT IN PERSON AND WISH TO,
TO SPEAK YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM WITHOUT ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE JOANNE MOORE HAS HIS HAND RAISED ON ZOOM. 
          GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THERE IS, IN FACT, DIALOG AROUND THE JEFFERSON AVENUE BIKE LANES
HAPPENING. 
          BUT I WOULD MAKE TWO CRITICAL COMMENTS. WHILE THIS DISCUSSION IS RICH AND IMPORTANT AND
SHOULD GO FORWARD TODAY, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COMMISSION OR THE, LET'S SAY,
SPONSORING COMMISSIONER OF THIS OF THIS DISCUSSION CONTACT FPN A'S CHAIR OUR CONVENER IN ORDER TO PLACE THE ITEM ON
OUR AGENDA, SINCE THIS CONCERNS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST AND FOREMOST. 
          I WOULD ALSO MAKE THE CRITICAL COMMENT AS I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION AS IT
HAPPENS A LITTLE BIT LATER THAT THE CONSIDERATION OF EITHER MOVING THE BIKE LANES TO ANOTHER AVENUE OR SPLITTING THEM UP WITH
ONE ON EACH SIDE OF, OF JEFFERSON IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED CAREFULLY IN ADVANCE RATHER
THAN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. 
          NOW, I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS SOMETIMES ARISE AFTER A PROJECT IS COMPLETED,
BUT IF IN FACT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE FIRE TRUCKS, A LEGITIMATE WORRY, OBVIOUSLY NOT BEING ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY MANEUVER ON JEFFERSON,
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE, 
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I THINK, BEEN OBVIOUS AHEAD OF TIME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PLACING THIS ON THE
AGENDA. 
          I WILL ASK AGAIN, PLEASE, THAT YOU CONTACT FPNA TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS ON OUR AGENDA
NEXT MONDAY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE IN ZOOM, SEEING NONE IN PERSON. WITH THAT,
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE SENATE CITIZENS FORUM. 
          AND LET'S BEGIN BY TAKING UP ITEMS NUMBER NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO TOGETHER. 
          [ DISCUSS ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 70 OF THE CITY CODE, ENTITLED “MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES”, BY AMENDING ARTICLE II, ENTITLED “PUBLIC PLACES”, BY AMENDING DIVISION 2, ENTITLED “BICYCLING, SKATEBOARDING, ROLLER SKATING, IN-LINE SKATING, MOTORIZED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIC BICYCLES, MOPEDS, MOTORCYCLES, MOTORIZED BICYCLES, AND MOTORIZED SCOOTERS”, BY AMENDING SECTION 70-67, ENTITLED ‘PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES’, BY PROHIBITING THE OPERATION OF MOTORIZED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION IN CITY PARKS.]
OKAY. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSS ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 70 OF THE CITY CODE ENTITLED
MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES BY AMENDING ARTICLE TWO ENTITLED PUBLIC PLACES BY AMENDING DIVISION TWO ENTITLED BICYCLING, SKATEBOARDING,
ROLLER SKATING, INLINE SKATING, MOTORIZED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIC BICYCLES, MOPEDS, MOTORCYCLES, MOTORIZED BICYCLES,
AND MOTORIZED SCOOTERS. 
          BY AMENDING SECTION 7067 ENTITLED PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES BY PROHIBITING THE OPERATIONS OF
MOTORIZED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION IN CITY PARKS. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER BOR. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS TO DISCUSS A RESOLUTION OF
THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE AND DEPLOY A SPECIALIZED POLICE TASK
FORCE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE, ADDRESS AND ENFORCE ANY VIOLATIONS OF LAWS COMMITTED BY ROGUE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS
ENTERING THE CITY RIDING DIRT BIKES, ALL TERRAIN VEHICLES, BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND OTHER DEVICES IN A RECKLESS OR
UNLAWFUL MANNER IN VIOLATION OF VARIOUS TRAFFIC LAWS AND WITH A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR OTHER ROAD USERS AND PEDESTRIANS. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER SUAREZ AND CO-SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. 
          THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOND AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ FOR FOR
PLACING THESE ITEMS ON THE ON THE AGENDA. 
          THEY'RE SEPARATE ITEMS. BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED BECAUSE BOTH DEAL WITH THE
GROWING CHALLENGE OF HOW MOBILITY DEVICES, WHETHER THEY BE BIKES AND SCOOTERS OR OTHER OFF ROAD VEHICLES,
ARE BEING USED IN WAYS THAT IMPACT THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR PUBLIC PLACES. 
          I, IF, IF ANY OF THE SPONSORING COMMISSIONERS WANT TO STATE SOMETHING ON THE RECORD AND
THEN WE'LL PASS IT OVER TO OUR PARKS DIRECTOR AND OUR TRANSPORTATION TEAM. YES. COMMISSIONER BOND AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. I
ACTUALLY SEE THESE AS FAIRLY DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK ON THIS ITEM,
BUT THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE USING THEIR DEVICES LAWFULLY. 
          AND WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE IT SAFE TO BE A PEDESTRIAN IN THE CITY,
AS WELL AS TO USE YOUR MICROMOBILITY DEVICE SAFELY IN THE CITY. 
          AND WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO ON, ON ALL OF THESE POINTS,
BUT A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE ALREADY. 
          THIS ITEM CAME UP AS A REQUEST FROM RESIDENTS TRYING TO KEEP E DEVICES OUT OF FLAMINGO
PARK. 
          AND I THINK THE PINNACLE OF IT WAS WHEN IT WAS REPORTED THAT SOMEBODY ON AN E DEVICE WAS
USING THE TRACK TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE IN FLAMINGO PARK, AND THAT'S WILDLY NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          AND SO YOU KNOW, THE, THE CRUX OF THIS ISSUE WITH MICROMOBILITY DEVICES IS THAT WHEN
E-BIKES BECAME A THING, THEY WERE LEGISLATED FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS BICYCLES INSTEAD OF MOTORCYCLES. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS CRISIS OF LACK OF. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE, LEGAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO MANAGE THESE ORIGINATES FROM. 
          SO IN, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR, WHERE THERE ARE SO MANY RESOURCES ON THE ROADS
WITH SLOW STREETS AND BIKE LANES AND YOU KNOW, LESS TRAFFICKED STREETS. ANYHOW. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP FLAMINGO PARK
FOR PEDESTRIANS AND REGULAR BICYCLES AND PUT MICROMOBILITY DEVICES INTO THE BIKE LANES WHERE,
WHERE THEY BELONG. 
          THE MORE WE SEE PEOPLE USING THE BIKE LANES,
THE MORE WE ALL COLLECTIVELY WILL GET USED TO SEEING THEM THERE, THE MORE WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRAIN DRIVERS TO SHARE THE ROAD WITH THESE DEVICES. 
          AND THE BETTER WE'LL GET AT DOING THIS. WE ARE A CITY THAT IS LEADING THE NATION. 
          COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT WHEN WE HAVE DONE RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE AND
AROUND THE COUNTRY, WE ARE PRETTY FAR AHEAD OF THE GAME IN TERMS OF TRYING TO LEGISLATE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO
SHARE OUR SPACE AMONG ALL THE CONSTITUENTS, WHETHER THEY BE ON FEET, ON AN ELECTRIFIED WHEELS OR ON ELECTRIFIED WHEELS. 
          SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, PARK SHOULD BE FOR AN ELECTRIFIED DEVICES AND BIKE LANES SHOULD BE
FOR ELECTRIFIED DEVICES. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN. LET ME LET ME JUST RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER SUAREZ
BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE THESE TWO ITEMS TOGETHER. 
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BECAUSE I DO, I, I DON'T SEE THEM AS REALLY THAT DIFFERENT. 
          I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE UNDERLYING ISSUE,
WHICH IS WE NEED CLEAR RULES. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE NEED CLEAR AND EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES. 
          AND MAY I JUST SAY ONE THING. WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE ITEM THAT I'VE DEFERRED. 
          THANK YOU FOR PERMITTING THAT TALKING ABOUT THE LAWFUL USE OF E-BIKES IT HAS BEEN
SOMETHING THAT MARC FISHMAN AND I, AND FOLKS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING THE CHIEF,
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MONTHS. 
          AND THAT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LAWFUL USE. 
          THIS ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ABOUT UNLAWFUL USE. AND SO I DO WANT TO. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ITEM BECAUSE IT IS IT CAUSES PANDEMONIUM. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT I SEE THEM AS TOTALLY DIFFERENT ITEMS. FOR NOW, I WILL GRANT YOU THE COURTESY. BUT COMMISSIONER,
I AM THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST OF MY COLLEAGUES AND AS THE CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE, WHEN I SET A STRUCTURE IS FOR A PURPOSE. AND SO IN THE FUTURE,
I JUST KINDLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE RESPECT THAT. 
          JOHN, GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THE TWO ITEMS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. YES. THE COMMISSION SPONSOR COVERED WELL IN PART,
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ELECTRIFIED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION MOTORIZED IN PARKS AND KEEP IT JUST TO FOOT
TRAFFIC AND REGULAR BICYCLES IN ALL PARKS. OKAY. LET ME LET ME JUST ASK YOU SOMETHING BECAUSE WHEN I SEE THIS ITEM AND
I SEE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE ALREADY PROHIBIT THE, THE, THE OPERATION OF THESE MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION
DEVICES AND PARKS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I DIDN'T CATCH EVERYTHING. WE'RE,
WE'RE ASKING FOR A FULL PROHIBITION WITHIN PARKS, RIGHT? SO TODAY, TODAY, RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY CODE,
MR. ATTORNEY, RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY CODE, THERE IS A LIST OF LOCATIONS WHERE WHERE MOTORIZED
TRANSPORTATION IS PROHIBITED. 
          OH, YEAH. YES. CHAIR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO PARKS,
THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED ON THE INTERIOR PATHWAYS OF COLLINS PARK AND ALSO SOUTH POINT PARK. OKAY. AND THEN I SEE IN THE CODE, FOR EXAMPLE,
THE BEACH WALK, WE WE ALREADY PROHIBIT THESE DEVICES. 
          LOOMIS PARK PROMENADE FROM FIFTH STREET TO 15TH STREET. 
          YES. CORRECT. THE SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OCEAN DRIVE BETWEEN SOUTH POINT DRIVE AND
15TH STREET. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. THE SOUTH POINT COULD WALK. CORRECT. 
          THE BOARDWALK, THE MARINA WALK, SOUTH POINT PARK PIER,
AND THE MIAMI BEACH PROMENADE, WHICH IS FORMERLY MIAMI BEACH DRIVE. 
          CORRECT. AND SO THEN NOW THIS WILL TELL ME THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE INSERTING INTO INTO THE
CODE. 
          WELL, WHAT WE BASICALLY BE DOING IS PROHIBITING THE OPERATION OF ANY MICROMOBILITY DEVICE
ON IN ANY CITY PARK, SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE TRACK IN FLAMINGO PARK AND THE PEDESTRIAN
PROMENADE IN OCEAN TERRACE PARK, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PARKING AREA OR ANY OTHER AREA SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR THE
OPERATION OF SUCH DEVICES. 
          OKAY, SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEM. THERE'S JUST TWO THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO BE
MINDFUL. 
          THREE THINGS I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF. I DO SEE IN IN FLAMINGO PARK,
IN FLAMINGO PARK. 
          I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SEE THESE DEVICES IN FLAMINGO PARK,
BUT YOU DO HAVE AN INTERSECTION IN FLAMINGO PARK. 
          13TH STREET. 13TH STREET GOES INTO FLAMINGO PARK ON THE WEST SIDE,
GOES OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OR, OR VICE VERSA TO ME. AND AND YOU SEE THAT NATURAL INTERSECTION THERE. 
          THEN YOU SEE JEFFERSON AVENUE, JEFFERSON, JEFFERSON AVENUE THAT CUTS INTO FLAMINGO PARK. 
          I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THAT FLOW. SO YOU KNOW THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE,
YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE HOW CAN WE FACILITATE AND DO ENFORCEMENT? BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW BETTER WHO AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE
PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW BETTER. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE CUTTING THROUGH FLAMINGO PARK TO GET TO WORK,
TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. 
          AND, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE THERE. YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE ENGAGING IN ACTIVITIES THAT THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW. AND THAT'S WHY I SEE THIS, THAT THIS IS WHY I SEE THIS INTERCONNECTED,
THESE TWO ITEMS. BECAUSE IN ESSENCE, HERE WE'RE MAKING A PROHIBITION THAT IF SOMEONE VIOLATES THIS,
THIS PROHIBITION, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FALL INTO THE CATEGORY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN
ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
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AND SO, AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF LENIENCY AS IT RELATES TO FLAMINGO
PARK, THE INTERSECTION THAT'S CREATED THERE, NOT IN THE GREEN SPACE ITSELF,
BUT ON THE CONCRETE THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDS SOUTH TO NORTH ON JEFFERSON AVENUE,
THEN EAST TO WEST ALONG 13TH STREET. 
          SO WITH ALL OF THE MICRO-MOBILITY ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS
THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF EDUCATION WHEN WE INITIATE A CHANGE ENFORCEMENT TO INTERCEPT AND EDUCATE RATHER THAN PENALIZE PEOPLE. 
          AND IT'S REALLY WHEN WE HAVE REPEAT OFFENDERS THAT,
THAT IT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ITEM. 
          WE'VE BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL. JULIO BLANCO IS HERE SOMEPLACE. 
          THERE HE IS SUPER SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS APPROACH. 
          ON THE BEACH WALK WHERE WE'VE HAD, AND JULIO HAS THE,
THE STATISTICS, BUT WE'VE HAD VERY FEW REPEAT OFFENDERS. 
          AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF USAGE OF E DEVICES ON THE BEACH WALK HAS BEEN CUT BACK DRAMATICALLY
THROUGH EDUCATION ENFORCEMENT REINFORCEMENT. 
          AND SO THE APPROACH IS NOT TO PUNISH PEOPLE,
BUT TO EDUCATE THEM. 
          MR. CHAIR? YES. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER SALINAS,
WHO'S A COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. 
          I AGREE, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ, WITH YOU. I THINK THAT I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE FLAMINGO
PARK BE EXEMPT FROM THIS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT IS A CUT THROUGH FOR FOLKS,
AS LONG AS THEY STAY ON THE CONCRETE TO GET EAST TO WEST. 
          SO IF THE ITEM SPONSOR WOULD BE AMENABLE TO EXEMPTING FLAMINGO PARK AS WELL AS WHAT'S THE
NAME OF THE PARK THAT'S CONNECTS RUM ROOM TO THAT COLLINS PARK PARK. I HAVE IT ON MY LIST OF ITEMS TOO. 
          OKAY. YES. YES. OKAY. SO IF WE COULD JUST MAYBE IN COLLINS PARK AS WELL. 
          SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM. 
          AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THOSE BECAUSE COLLINS PARK STRETCHES FROM CONVENTION CENTER DRIVE
ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON AVENUE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE ALONG THE BOTANICAL GARDEN AND ALONG COLLINS CANAL,
YOU HAVE, THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A PROMENADE, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? AND SO, AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU,
MADAM VICE MAYOR, AND THEN COLLINS PARK, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE HYPOTHETICAL LIBERTY AVENUE THAT CONNECTS TO THE NEW PROMENADE
THAT'S BEEN CREATED THERE? I THINK I THINK THOSE ARE TWO IMPORTANT EXCEPTIONS TO THIS,
TO THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT CROSS INTERSECTION IN FLAMINGO PARK,
COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. 
          THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. MAYBE POLICE CAN ANSWER THIS. 
          DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY DATA ON ANY ACCIDENTS RELATED TO IMMOBILITY IN FLAMINGO PARK? NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON ACCIDENTS INVOLVING IMMOBILITY IN FLAMINGO PARK. 
          THANK YOU. SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL DATA TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM,
ALEX? WE DO NOT, SIR. OKAY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK FLAMINGO PARK IS DIFFERENT. 
          WHY? I THINK FLAMINGO PARK IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BEACH WALK,
FOR EXAMPLE. 
          IS THAT FLAMINGO PARK, AS THE CHAIR SAID, IS AN INTERSECTION OF REALLY A RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE BEACH WALK COULD BE A COMPOSITION OF TOURISTS AND RESIDENTS,
BUT IN FLAMINGO PARK IT'S REALLY JUST RESIDENTS. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT HOW IT'S SET UP, I MEAN, IT'S DEAD CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF FLAMINGO
PARK, OBVIOUSLY. BUT WE JUST BUILT ONE OF THE BEST BIKE LANES ON JEFFERSON AVENUE,
WHICH INTERSECT INTO THE MIDDLE OF FLAMINGO PARK. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING, YOU KNOW,
MICROMOBILITY USERS IS THAT ONCE YOU GET, YOU KNOW, IN JEFFERSON ONLY SPANS WHERE IT GETS CUT OFF FROM FIFTH STREET OR REALLY SIXTH
STREET TO 11TH STREET. 
          AND IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR KID TO SCHOOL OR YOU WANT TO GET SOMEWHERE SAFELY WITHIN
FLAMINGO PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING PUSHED ONTO THE STREET. 
          YOU'RE GETTING PUSHED ONTO 11TH STREET. AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE MERIDIAN,
WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY BIKE LANES. 
          YOU CAN GET TO EUCLID, WHICH THE BIKE LANES AREN'T VERY SECURE BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, ANYONE OPENING THEIR CAR DOOR CAN ACCIDENTALLY HIT YOU. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT I THINK THIS DOES IS IT REALLY JUST PUSHES THE PROBLEM AND THE
RISK ONTO THE, ONTO THE MICROMOBILITY USERS. AND LOOK, WITH ALL TRANSPARENCY,
I'M A BIG SCOOTER GUY. 
          I GO THERE PROBABLY AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES. I DON'T GO THROUGH THE PARK. 
          BUT I, I MEAN, I SEE PEOPLE ON THEIR, ON THEIR BIKES,
ON THEIR SCOOTERS, ON THEIR MOBILITY DEVICES. 
          AND I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ISSUE IN FLAMINGO PARK. 
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YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER BOARD SAID THERE WAS SOMEONE RIDING IT ON THE TRACK. 
          OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. IF THEY'RE RIDING IT ON THE TRACK,
I THINK THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SEPARATE ISSUE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, PHILOSOPHICALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY SCOOTER ON THE ROAD IS ONE LESS CAR ON
THE ROAD AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CHAMPIONING AND ENCOURAGING, NOT MAKING IT HARDER. 
          I'M OKAY WITH CERTAIN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF REGULATION,
PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, IN THE PARK YOU GO NO MORE THAN WALKING SPEED. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          BUT TO OUTRIGHT BAN THEM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE LIKE A NANNY STATE
WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TELLING EVERYONE JUST, JUST KNOW,
BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE DATA TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THIS I MEAN,
I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT IF THIS COMES TO COMMISSION, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK FLAMINGO PARK IS A VERY IMPORTANT
INTERSECTION FOR RESIDENTS. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY A TOURIST VISIT, YOU KNOW, PLACE TO GO. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. COMMISSIONER BOARD. ASSISTANT CHIEF MARGALLO,
COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE DON'T HAVE DATA ON THIS? BECAUSE WE DON'T THE UTC DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THIS DATA TO BE CAPTURED. 
          SO THE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CITATION DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC BOX FOR ANY MOBILITY VEHICLE. 
          WE HAVE TO LIST IT AS NO VEHICLE. AND THEN IN THE NARRATIVE SECTION OF THE UTC,
RIGHT IN THAT THEY WERE OPERATING A, A MOBILITY VEHICLE. AND THERE ISN'T A, AT THIS TIME A REQUIREMENT FOR DOCUMENTATION OF
CRASHES INVOLVING MOBILITY VEHICLES THAT IS ACTUALLY CHANGING. AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT WITH THE NEW STATE LAW IN
OCTOBER. 
          SO ANY TYPE OF CRASH INVOLVING ANY MOBILITY DEVICE,
WHETHER IT'S ON A ROADWAY OR NOT, WILL HAVE TO BE CAPTURED IN A UNIFORM IN A, IN A TRAFFIC CRASH REPORT. RIGHT. SO IT'S TAKEN AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF WORKING ON THIS TO
HAVE THE STATE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS DATA NEEDS TO BE COLLECTED. 
          FURTHERMORE, A NUMBER OF NEAR MISSES I MEAN,
NEAR MISSES DON'T GET CAPTURED AS ACCIDENT REPORTS. 
          BUT WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM. WE'VE ALL BEEN PART OF THEM. 
          YEAH. NEAR MISSES ARE OUR BLESSINGS IN DISGUISE BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE NOT
ACTUALLY BEEN HIT BY OR YOU HAVE NOT ACTUALLY HIT SOMEBODY, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT STILL DOESN'T AFFECT
YOU. 
          MOREOVER, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT CAME FROM JOSE IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR
ALEX AND IN YOUR COLLEAGUES AT POLICE, BUT WE HAVE A TON OF DATA ANECDOTALLY AND, AND FROM STUDIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT SHOW THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS OF MOBILITY DEVICES,
IMMOBILITY V PEDESTRIANS, IMMOBILITY, V VEHICLES HAS SKYROCKETED. AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHY THE STATE IS FINALLY TAKING ACTION. 
          THAT IS PRECISELY WHY OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE FINALLY TAKING ACTION. 
          AND I AM SURE THAT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE WILL SEE IT ON A FEDERAL LEVEL,
TOO. 
          SO IT IS A COMPLETE FALLACY TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO DATA. 
          WE DON'T HAVE IT COLLECTED PER SE FOR THIS MEETING,
BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AND WE WILL PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD IT IN OTHER IN OTHER MEETINGS AS PART OF OTHER DOCUMENTS. SO THIS NOTION OF THERE'S NO PROBLEM IS INCORRECT. 
          THERE IS A PROBLEM. I'M VERY OPEN TO THE IDEA OF HAVING THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE OF FLAMINGO, THE CROSS STREETS BE, BE OPEN BECAUSE IT CONNECTS,
BUT TO HAVE THESE DEVICES ON THE INTERIOR PATHS OF A PARK IS DANGEROUS. AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A NANNY STATE. 
          I AM TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE STROLLING IN A PARK ARE NOT GOING TO GET RUN
OVER BY SOMEBODY WHO'S ON THEIR PHONE WITH THEIR KIDS SITTING AT THEIR FEET ON A ON AN E-SCOOTER, AS WE'VE SEEN TOO MANY TIMES. 
          I MEAN, THE ACCIDENT REPORTS THAT WE DO HAVE WHEN WE GET A SIN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE READ THOSE, BUT THEY'RE HORRIFIC. 
          THEY ARE HORRIFIC. SO TO PRETEND THAT THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM IS JUST PUTTING YOUR HEAD IN
YOUR SAND, IN THE SAND. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COLLEAGUES,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS HERE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION FOCUSED ON THE ITEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF US. 
          P.J., DO WE HAVE THE IMAGE THAT I EMAILED YOU? ALL RIGHT. SO SO THIS IS ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER. BOARD THAT WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR YOUR ITEM,
ECHOING WHAT THE VICE MAYOR STATED INTERSECTING THROUGH JEFFERSON AVENUE AT 13TH STREET. 
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IF WE CAN SHOW THE NEXT IMAGE P.J. THE NEXT ONE COLLINS WE CALL THIS COLLINS CANAL PARK. 
          AND, AND TRANSPORTATION THIS THIS PATHWAY ACTUALLY CONTINUES WESTBOUND. 
          COLLINS CANAL PARK, IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVE A SHARED USE PATH ALONG THE COLLINS CANAL AND
BOULEVARD BOULEVARD. 
          SO SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THIS. WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO KEEP THIS AREA HERE OPEN FOR
DEVICES? WELL, DAVE BOULEVARD IS A SHARED USE PATH, SO HOWEVER,
IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY SIGNED. 
          IF YOU NOTICE, IT'S NOT SIGNED OR DESIGNATED. 
          AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE. YES, YES. 
          OKAY. MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. AND, AND LASTLY, IT IS A CONTINUATION TO YOUR POINT. 
          AND PJ, WE COULD PUT THE LAST ONE. AND THERE ARE,
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE THE CONTINUATION OF LIBERTY AVENUE THROUGH THROUGH COLLINS PARK. WHICH OF COURSE CONNECTS TO THE PROMENADE THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED
THERE. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU GO FURTHER NORTH, ACTUALLY THERE YOU HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. 
          THAT GOES INTO FLAMINGO DRIVE. SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE,
IF YOU WOULD, IF WE COULD AMEND YOUR ITEM TO CREATE THOSE EXCEPTIONS. 
          SO I'M OKAY WITH THIS. AND WITH THE FLAMINGO PARK MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THE PARK,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AMPLE SIGNAGE. 
          JOSE. AND I KNOW WE CAN CREATE THAT INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT SHARED USE SIGNAGE. 
          I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE COLLINS PARK BECAUSE IT IS NOT SUPER WELL LIT. 
          ANYHOW. IT'S NOT SUPER EASY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          AND THERE IS DADE BOULEVARD IS, IS A SHARED USE BOULEVARD. 
          AND I, WE, AGAIN, WE CAN EFFECTUATE SIGNAGE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY TO REINFORCE THAT. 
          SO CAN WE MAKE A COMPROMISE ON THAT? I, I, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE INCLUSION OF THE
COLLINS CANAL PARK. 
          MR. CHAIR, MAY I, IF I MAY, IF I'M SPEAKING,
IF I COULD FINISH MY THOUGHT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT. COLLINS. DADE BOULEVARD IS A BUSY ROADWAY. 
          IT IS A VERY BUSY ROADWAY AND IS NOT A SAFE ROADWAY. 
          I BELIEVE FOR, FOR, FOR BICYCLISTS, FOR, FOR ANYONE,
FRANKLY. 
          AND SO I, I THINK JUST HAVING THAT ALTERNATIVE THERE IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO RIDE THEIR BICYCLES TO THROUGH THERE TO CONNECT TO THE HOTELS, TO THE RESTAURANTS, TO ALL THE DIFFERENT HOSPITALITY OPTIONS THAT ARE THERE
BECAUSE THEY WORK THERE. 
          NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THERE EVEN TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES. 
          IT, IT IS, IT IS USED, IT IS USED BY MEMBERS OF,
OF, OF THE PUBLIC. 
          SO TO THE, TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS ITEM AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM. 
          I'D ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU COULD CONSIDER THE REQUEST OF VICE MAYOR SALINAS AND MYSELF TO
AMEND THE ITEM TO INCLUDE THAT MADAM VICE MAYOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. 
          SURE. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE NOT REALLY
HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BY PEDESTRIANS WITH FLAMINGO PARK A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'RE NOT. YOU KNOW, THE BEACH WALK IS VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY
PEDESTRIANS THAT WALK ON THE BEACH WALK. 
          BUT THE THREE LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED ARE THERE,
IT'S JUST NOT HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BY A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. 
          SO IT MAKES SENSE TO ALLOW THE E-BIKES TO GO THROUGH THERE BECAUSE EVERY E-BIKE THAT WE
HAVE ON THE ROAD AND I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY SHOULD BE IN GENERAL,
BUT THAT IS NOW INCREASING THE RISK OF AN E-BIKE USER BEING HIT BY A VEHICLE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY,
YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE TRAGIC THAT OUTCOME THAN A PEDESTRIAN BEING HIT BY AN E-BIKE, WHICH IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATE AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. 
          BUT IT JUST THE RISK INCREASES AS WE FORCE E-BIKE USERS TO BE ON THE ROAD. 
          AND I THINK THOSE THREE AREAS ARE SAFER ROUTES OF TRAVEL FOR FOLKS ON E-BIKES THAT WANT TO
JUST GET TO AND FROM SOMEPLACE SAFELY. 
          AND IF YOU FORCE THEM ONTO THE ROAD IN THOSE AREAS,
THEN WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT BIGGER YOU KNOW, RISK. SO I'D LIKE TO, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH KEEPING THOSE THREE AREAS
OPEN TO E-BIKES AND THEN COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. 
          AND THEN I WANT TO BRING THE ITEM IN FOR. THANK YOU,
MR. CHAIR. LOOK, I SAW THE AGAIN, I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE,
BUT WHAT YOU MADE AN EXCEPTION FOR IS BASICALLY THE WHOLE PARK, RIGHT? BECAUSE JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT, THAT T LINE IS LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE
SOCCER FIELDS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND NOW WE WANT TO PUT SIGNAGE,
MORE SIGNAGE IN A PARK. 
          I, I MEAN, LOOK, I, I UNDERSTAND THE, WE'RE GOING TO FINALLY COLLECT DATA. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT TILL WE COLLECT ACTUAL DATA. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T EXIST, BUT LET'S START COLLECTING DATA BEFORE WE START MAKING
THESE THESE RULES. 
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THAT'S JUST GOING TO CONFUSE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT REALLY. 
          I MEAN, LIKE SO. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NOW ENFORCE WHERE THE E-BIKE IS GOING OR THE
SCOOTER AT THIS T INTERSECTION OR ON COLLINS. 
          I MEAN, THE ONE NEXT TO THE ONE NEXT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          THAT'S THAT'S IT. I MEAN, I, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO SAY LIKE,
YOU CAN'T RIDE A SCOOTER IN THE GRASS. 
          SURE. BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS,
OF THIS ITEM. 
          BUT I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WHY ARE WE PASSING LAWS THAT ARE JUST BASICALLY
UNENFORCEABLE? AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE ALL THIS SIGNAGE EVERYWHERE. I MEAN,
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS OR HAVE SOMEBODY
MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. 
          WELL, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ON DEFERRING THIS ITEM. 
          IT'S IT'S BEFORE US TODAY. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ITEMS LINGERING ON THE AGENDA. 
          THIS IS IMPORTANT POLICY. I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR IT,
BECAUSE WE HAVE PARKS IN OUR CITY THAT DO GET OVERWHELMED BY, BY, BY BICYCLES. AND WE DO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS AND FROM SENIORS AND FROM FROM PEOPLE WITH
CHILDREN THAT THEY DO GET CONCERNED THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE IN OUR IN OUR CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHILDREN,
THEIR PETS, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH BAYSHORE PARK, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE MOTORIZED VEHICLES,
ESPECIALLY IN AREAS IN A PARK LIKE BAYSHORE PARK WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, OF, OF TOPOGRAPHY,
OF TOPOGRAPHY OR NORTH BEACH OPEN SPACE PARK OR OTHER PARKS. 
          SO I, I DO THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. I DON'T THINK THAT,
THAT THE REQUESTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE MAKING OF YOU OR THAT OR THAT COMMISSIONER SALINAS IS MAKING OF YOU IS, IS, IS UNREASONABLE. 
          I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD PIECE OF LEGISLATION. 
          JOHN, HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY? 45. 
          OKAY. SO OUT OF THE 45 PARKS, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE,
WE'RE ASKING FOR A MINOR EXCEPTION FOR THREE PARKS, WHICH I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A,
AN UNREASONABLE ASK. 
          I THINK IT'S IS VERY MINDFUL. AND AND, AND I,
AND I THINK YOU, IT STILL MAINTAINS THE CORE AND THE STRENGTH OF THIS ORDINANCE. 
          JOHN THOUGH THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES. 
          THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY THE PARKS ALREADY OFF THE TABLE FOR,
FOR E DEVICES, RIGHT. 
          THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY TO INCLUDE FLAMINGO PARK. 
          SO THEREFORE DO WE EVEN NEED THIS LEGISLATION? I, I, I DON'T THINK WE DO. I, AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT WITH
JUST A DOWNLOADABLE APP OR A SCREWDRIVER, YOU CAN BUY ANY DEVICE OFF OF AMAZON AND TAKE IT FROM,
YOU KNOW, A 19 MILE AN HOUR DEVICE, WHICH IS WHAT A GOOD BIKE RIDER WILL BE RIDING. 
          TO A 50 MILE AN HOUR DEVICE. AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT GETTING HIT BY AN E-SCOOTER OR AN
E-BIKE AS A PEDESTRIAN IS CATASTROPHIC, CAN BE CATASTROPHIC. WE HAVE SEEN IT. WE. YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN IN HOSPITAL
FOR THREE MONTHS. 
          I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HIT. THAT IS NOT THE GOAL. 
          THE GOAL IS TO SET THIS CITY UP SO THAT WE HAVE CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN WHERE YOU CAN
RIDE A MOTORIZED VEHICLE AND A NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLE. 
          SO IF I SO IF I, IF I WANTED TO COME BACK COMMISSIONER IF I MAY,
BECAUSE I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION THOUGH, BUT BUT IF IF IF I MAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE STRICTLY FOCUSED,
YOU ARE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND I WANT TO ASK THE ATTORNEY TO PLEASE COME BACK TO THE PODIUM. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS
ITEM. 
          SECTION 70-67 OF THE CODE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MOTORIZED DEVICES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOTORIZED MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          OKAY. BUT THIS SECTION OF THE BECAUSE MY PROBLEM,
MY MY FEAR IS THE MOMENT WE OPENED THIS UP, WE MAKE THIS ILLEGAL FOR MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION,
THEN IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT CONCERN IS GOING TO BE, WELL, THIS PROHIBIT BICYCLES AND THEN PROHIBIT THE ROLLER SKATERS AND THEN PROHIBIT THE
SKATEBOARDERS. 
          THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND THAT'S WHY FOR ME,
IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS THIS SECTION OF THE CODE GENERALLY, GENERALLY SPEAKS NOT JUST ABOUT MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION. 
          IT ALSO SPEAKS ABOUT SKATEBOARDING, SPEAKS ABOUT ROLLER SKATING. 
          IT SPEAKS ABOUT INLINE SKATING. IT SPEAKS TO A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS,
INCLUDING BICYCLING. 
          AND THERE'S THIS THIS IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PART OF THE ORDINANCE OF,
OF, OF THIS ORDINANCE. 
          OF COURSE, HERE WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION,
BUT IT'S VERY EASY FOR SOMEONE IN THE FUTURE TO COME IN AND AMEND THIS AND SAY, WELL, WE NOW SOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THE MOTORIZED BICYCLES,
BUT NOW WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MAKE MAKE I DON'T KNOW, MAKE ROLLER SKATING ILLEGAL HERE IN,
IN THESE AREAS OR I WANT TO GO BACK AND MAKE SKATEBOARDING ILLEGAL IN THESE AREAS. 
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I, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT YOUR INTENT, BUT IT'S,
IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE ORDINANCES. 
          WE SET UP THE POSSIBILITY FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO, AND SO THAT'S WHY I DO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW,
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THESE, THESE EXCEPTIONS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THESE CONNECTOR POINTS, THEY SERVE AS, AS, AS CONNECTOR POINTS. 
          YES, THEY GO THROUGH A PARK, BUT THEY ARE A CONNECTOR POINT. 
          AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE A CONNECTOR POINT,
WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN OVERREGULATE THEM BECAUSE THEN IN THE FUTURE, ANYONE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, NOW LET'S,
LET'S MAKE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THINGS, YOU KNOW, HARMLESS THINGS LIKE ROLLER SKATING, BUT SOMEONE'S GOING TO SAY,
WELL, YOU KNOW, MY GRANDMA GOT HIT BY A ROLLERBLADER, YOU KNOW. SKATEBOARDS OR SOMETHING, I COULD SAY. 
          YEAH. IT OPENS, IT OPENS. ANYTHING WITH WHEELS? YEAH. SO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE US TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE THIS BACK TO
THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS ITEM. YES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT BACK WITH A FAVORABLE
RECOMMENDATION WITH, WITH, WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAKE THE THREE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE. 
          I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. MADAM VICE MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION THEN EXCLUDING THE THREE LOCATIONS OF FLAMINGO PARK,
COLLINS PARK. 
          AND WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE PARK AGAIN? I'M SORRY,
THE ONE THAT'S NORTH OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, COLLINS CANAL PARK. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. 
          SO WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE A. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          AND IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE TAKE A
VOTE? SEEING NONE IN PERSON. NONE IN ZOOM. CAN WE SHOW THIS ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOND. 
          IT IS IT IS A GOOD PIECE OF LEGISLATION. AND WE WILL BUILD FROM HERE. 
          WITH THAT, LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND I WANTED TO TAKE THESE TOGETHER. 
          [ DISCUSS A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE AND DEPLOY A SPECIALIZED POLICE TASK FORCE TO MORE PROACTIVELY ADDRESS AND ENFORCE ANY VIOLATIONS OF LAW COMMITTED BY ROGUE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS ENTERING THE CITY RIDING DIRT BIKES, ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES, BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BICYCLES, AND OTHER DEVICES IN A RECKLESS OR UNLAWFUL MANNER, IN VIOLATION OF VARIOUS TRAFFIC LAWS, AND WITH BLATANT DISREGARD FOR OTHER ROAD USERS AND PEDESTRIANS.]
BUT I UNDERSTAND, COMMISSIONER, THAT YOU WANTED TO TAKE THIS SEPARATELY. 
          SO. SO LET'S INTRODUCE NOW ITEM NUMBER TWO, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          THAT'S MY CUE. OKAY, GOOD. IS IS POLICE HERE TO. 
          COME ON? DANNY. SO, DANNY, YOU KNOW, I PUT THIS ON QUITE A WHILE AGO. 
          AND I DON'T SEE THESE ROVING GANGS GO THROUGH PARKS. 
          I DO SEE THEM ON THE STREET. AND WE WANTED TO KNOW. 
          WHAT COULD YOU DO ABOUT IT? RIGHT. I MEAN, I KNOW LOOK,
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE ALL JUST LIKE TEENAGERS, RIGHT? AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE ON THEIR BIKES INSTEAD OF DOING OTHER BAD THINGS. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN GO TO A WATER SLIDE. THAT'S A JOKE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REALLY COMBAT THIS SORT OF YOU KNOW,
VERY DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR ON THE ROADS, NOT ONLY FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE IN THE CARS, BUT THESE CHILDREN. 
          SO GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ENCOMPASSES A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT GROUPS. 
          THERE'S THE ONES THAT ARE ON MOTORIZED GAS POWERED,
NON STREET LEGAL THAT OFTENTIMES FALL UNDER AN UMBRELLA OF WHEELS UP, GUNS DOWN THAT PARTICULAR GROUP. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS OTHER GROUP THAT'S KIND OF VERY
LOOSELY, NOT REALLY ASSOCIATED, NOT REALLY ORGANIZED. THAT COMES THROUGH PERIODICALLY ON THE
WEEKENDS. 
          THEY WERE LAST HERE ON SATURDAY. AND, AND I CAN RELATE TO YOU HOW WE HANDLED IT ON
SATURDAY BECAUSE IT KIND OF WILL BECOME THE MODEL MOVING FORWARD OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THESE GROUPS TO AVOID THEM ESCALATING,
FLEEING, BECOMING EVEN MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THEM ARE KIDS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 14 AND 18. THERE ARE SOME ADULTS THAT ARE PART OF THESE
GROUPS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON, ON THE INVESTIGATIVE PATH TO GET AN IDEA OF WHO THEY ARE AND WHO'S THE ORGANIZERS BEHIND
THIS. 
          BECAUSE AS THIS PROBLEM HAS EVOLVED OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS,
WE'VE SEEN THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE THEY WERE THEY WERE BRINGING KIDS DOWN FROM BROWARD AND PALM BEACH COUNTY ON THE BRIGHT LINE. 
          AND THEN WHEN THEY WERE GETTING INTO DOWNTOWN MIAMI,
GIVING THEM BIKES AND GOING OFF AND RIDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MIAMI BEACH, WHO'S THEY? EXACTLY. AND THAT'S THE KEY. I MEAN,
MEANING LIKE, IS IT LIKE AN ORGANIZATION? YOU DON'T JUST GIVE SOMEONE A BIKE. IT THEY DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. 
          THEY LET THEM USE IT FOR THE THE RIDE THAT DAY. 
          AND THEN THEY BRING IT. THEY BASICALLY TURN IT BACK IN. 
          SO IT'S IDENTIFYING WHO THE ORGANIZERS ARE BEHIND IT,
BECAUSE THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF LAWLESSNESS THAT SOME OF THESE KIDS ENGAGE IN UNDER 
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THE AUSPICES OF WHATEVER ORGANIZATION IS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          SO THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WE'VE TRIED TO GIVE THEM DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE THEY COULD RIDE
AND DO STUNT RIDING. 
          WE'VE TRIED TO ORGANIZE IT THROUGH PALS TO GIVE THEM A PATHWAY TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR
WRITING SKILLS, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE VERY GIFTED ON A BICYCLE,
BUT THEY'RE USING THOSE SKILLS AND THOSE GIFTS THAT THEY DEVELOP TO PRETTY MUCH TERRORIZE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE MOTORING PUBLIC. 
          SO SATURDAY WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH WE HAD NO NOTICE THAT THEY WERE COMING THROUGH. 
          WE HAVE NO INTEL THAT THEY'RE COMING THROUGH. WE FIND OUT THEY'RE HERE WHEN THEY'RE HERE.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO QUICKLY MOBILIZE OUR DHFR AND DHFR FOR THE DRONE AS A FIRST RESPONDER IN THE REAL TIME INTELLIGENCE CENTER. AND WE STARTED TO OBSERVE WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND
UTILIZING THE VIDEO FEED TO DOCUMENT THE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE GROUP THAT WERE BEING THE MOST EGREGIOUS IN HOW THEY WERE WRITING. 
          AND THEN THEY STOPPED AT FLAMINGO PARK FOR A LITTLE BIT FOR A WATER BREAK. 
          PARK RANGERS WERE MONITORING THEM AS THEY STARTED TO LEAVE FLAMINGO PARK. 
          WE CONTINUED OBSERVING THEM, AND THEN WE OBSERVED SOME PRETTY EGREGIOUS RIDING AGAINST
TRAFFIC WRITING YOU KNOW, ON ONE WHEEL, THEY DO THIS MANEUVER THAT WE DESCRIBE AS,
YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY PLAY CHICKEN WITH A CAR AND THEY'RE ON ONE WHEEL AT A HIGH SPEED GOING TOWARDS THE VEHICLE. AND AT THE VERY LAST SECOND,
THEY AVOID HITTING THAT VEHICLE. THEY'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH PEDESTRIANS. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT ON SATURDAY. BUT WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS WE OBSERVED THE COMPOUNDING
TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS. 
          AND THEN WHEN THEY MADE ANOTHER STOP AT LINCOLN AND WASHINGTON,
WE DIRECTED OFFICERS IN TO STOP THE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE GOT THE MOST EGREGIOUS BEHAVIOR ON AND WROTE THAT INDIVIDUAL MULTIPLE TICKETS,
A 17 YEAR OLD. 
          THEN WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND ENGAGE WITH ONE OF THE ADULTS THAT
WAS PART OF THE GROUP AND EXPLAIN TO THEM AND POINT OUT THE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE OUR TECHNOLOGY ADVANTAGE THAT
WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND EVERY TIME THEY ENTER OUR CITY, IF THEY CONTINUE TO ENTER OUR CITY,
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RAMP UP THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY MOVING FORWARD. 
          NOW, WHEN YOU GAVE THAT TICKET, WAS IT A UTC TICKET? UTCS. WE GAVE THEM FOUR UTC FOR EVERY ONE OF THE INFRACTIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECORD. 
          AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
COMMITTING THE INFRACTIONS, BECAUSE MANY OF THEM LOOK THE SAME FROM ABOVE. 
          THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD A VERY DISTINCT SHIRT ON. WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY HIM. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP VISUAL ON HIM THROUGHOUT. 
          SO WE FELT COMFORTABLE. THE THE OFFICERS IN THE ARCTIC ARTICULATING THE PROBABLE CAUSE FOR
THE CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED. 
          AND HOW DID THEY HOW DID THEY RESPOND ONCE YOU TOLD THEM,
HEY, LOOK, WE GOT EYES IN THE SKY NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO THIS IS GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING. 
          THEY WERE SURPRISED. THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL THAT GOT THE CITATIONS WAS SAYING,
WELL, WHAT ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WAS DOING STUFF? HOW COME I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GETTING TICKETS? AND WE EXPLAIN TO THEM,
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S WEARING THE DISTINCT SHIRT THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T REALLY. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL WEARING THE SAME
STUFF. 
          WELL, NO, BECAUSE THEN THEN WE'LL HAVE OTHER WAYS TO,
TO IDENTIFY THEM. 
          IT, IT, THE PURPOSE OF SATURDAY'S REALLY WAS TO CONVEY TO THE GROUP THAT IF THEY COME TO
THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH TO ENGAGE IN AN UNLAWFUL BEHAVIOR, WE HAVE TECHNOLOGICAL ASSETS AT OUR DISPOSAL TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT ENFORCEMENT
DIFFERENT THAN OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS. 
          WERE YOU WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY STOP THEM BECAUSE THEY CAME TO A STOP? BUT, YOU KNOW, IF TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE SEE THESE SORT OF ROVING GANGS JUST KIND OF
WILLY NILLY ON THE STREET IS THE POLICE. 
          THE POLICE WON'T GO. THEY WON'T PULL SOMEONE OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE
JUST GOING TO. 
          IT'S BASED ON EXPERIENCE. SO I WAS ONE OF THOSE GUYS IN THE BEGINNING THAT WAS VERY GUNG
HO TO STOP EVERY ONE OF THESE GUYS AND, AND ARREST THEM. AND YOU QUICKLY REALIZE THAT YOU'RE HIGHLY LIKELY MOST OF THEM FLEE WHEN
YOU TRY TO PULL THEM OVER IN A TRADITIONAL MANNER. 
          AND BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNG KIDS, THEY START TO FLEE WITH A LEVEL OF RECKLESSNESS THAT IS,
THEY DON'T EVEN REALIZE THEY'RE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES. 
          SO LAW ENFORCEMENT OWNS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY INJURIES THAT THEY INCUR TO THEMSELVES
OR TO ANYBODY ELSE WHEN THEY FLEE LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE STARTED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF,
OKAY, LET'S TRY AND MONITOR THEM BEFORE WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY, MONITOR THEM USING BIKE PATROL OFFICERS, MONITOR THEM USING MOTOR OFFICERS,
WHICH WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST. 
          AND TO THE POINT THAT WHEN THEY WOULD SEE THAT WE HAD MOTORS ON A PARTICULAR DAY THAT THEY
TRIED TO COME INTO THE CITY, THEY MADE A U-TURN AND THEY WENT RIGHT BACK TO MIAMI. THE PROBLEM IS IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO PREDICT WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME THROUGH AND THE
SCHEDULING OF THE MOTORS AT THE SAME TIME THESE GUYS ARE COMING THROUGH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PREDICT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY HAPHAZARD WITH WHEN THEY'RE COMING
INTO THE CITY. 
          BUT YOU HAVE REAL TIME CAMERAS ON THE VENETIAN,
RIGHT, WHICH IS MOSTLY WHERE THEY COME FROM. 
          USUALLY THEY COME ACROSS VENETIAN. RARELY DO THEY COME ACROSS THE THE MACARTHUR. 
          YEAH. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS HAVE SOME SORT OF NOTIFICATION SYSTEM WHERE YOU SEE,
YOU KNOW, 
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MORE THAN 20 BIKES IN A ROW THERE. IT'S COMING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET TECHNOLOGY WISE TO MAKE THAT NOTIFICATION. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A 24 HOUR PRESENCE WITH AN OFFICER ALONG THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY. 
          SO THAT'S USUALLY HOW WE FIND OUT. THE CONVERSATION OF ESTABLISHING THE TASK FORCE HAS
CREATED CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN US AND MIAMI AND MIAMI DADE AND FHP, THAT THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE GET INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY WITH THE WHEELS UP,
GUNS DOWN GROUP BECAUSE OF THEIR LEVEL OF ORGANIZATION AND THE METHODS THEY USE TO COMMUNICATE. SO WE GET A HEADS UP WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND WE'RE ABLE TO MOBILIZE
RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THEM. 
          THE ONES THE YOUNGER, YOUNGER KIDS ON THE BIKES HAVE BEEN MORE DIFFICULT TO TO PREDICT. 
          COMMISSIONER SALINAS. HELLO, CHIEF. GOOD MORNING. 
          A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THEY ALWAYS COME IN AND OUT ON THE VENETIAN. 
          OR DO THEY EVER TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE? THEY HAVE IN THE PAST COME IN AND OUT THROUGH THE
MACARTHUR, BUT IT'S RARE. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S THE VENETIAN. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY USUALLY MEET UP IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI OR IN THE WYNWOOD AREA,
AND THEN THEY RIDE ACROSS FROM THE VENETIAN, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS COME TO MIAMI BEACH. SOMETIMES THEY'LL STAY ON THE MIAMI SIDE. 
          AND THE TIMES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE MOTORS IN THE CITY WHERE IT COINCIDED WITH
THEM, THAT WE COULD GET MOTORS TO THE VENETIAN. WHEN THEY SEE MOTORS,
AS THEY'RE HITTING CITY LIMITS ON THE VENETIAN, THEY MAKE A U-TURN AND THEY HEAD RIGHT BACK OUT. AND IS THERE ANY TYPE OF ARRESTABLE
OFFENSE THAT WE CAN THE THE ADULTS THAT ARE IN THE GROUP OVER AGE OF 18. IS THERE ANY TYPE OF ARRESTABLE OFFENSE THAT WE CAN ARREST THEM WITH
FOR PUTTING JUVENILES AT RISK? WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS NOW. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT AS JUST
INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS. WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO LOOK AT IT UNDER THE ORGANIZATIONAL UMBRELLA AND TO SEE IF WE CAN REACH THE PROBABLE CAUSE THRESHOLD TO
IDENTIFY ADULTS ENGAGING IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE DELINQUENCY OF MINORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THAT POINT
BECAUSE WHEN WE DO ENGAGE THE ADULTS, THEY SAY, I'M JUST RIDING A BIKE WITH THESE GUYS. YOU KNOW,
I'M NOT IN CHARGE HERE. SO THERE'S A LACK OF A CLAIMED STRUCTURE OR, YOU KNOW, GROUP AFFILIATION AND LACK OF A CLEAR LEADER IN THE GROUP. 
          SO WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THAT INVESTIGATIVE WISE,
BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET. 
          THANK YOU. SO AND JUST TO BUILD UPON THAT SO YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO,
YOU HAVEN'T FOUND A WAY TO BE ABLE TO ARREST SOMEONE FOR THIS? ARE YOU ALLOWED TO CONFISCATE THESE? THESE BICYCLES,
IF THEY'RE USING IT TO COMMIT A CRIME? YES WE ARE. SO IF WE REACH THE PROBABLE CAUSE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THEY UTILIZE THAT BICYCLE
AS AN INSTRUMENTALITY OF THE CRIME THAT THEY'RE COMMITTING, THEN YES, WE CAN IMPOUND IT. OR IF IT'S IN THE CASE OF THE,
THE, YOU KNOW, WHEELS UP, GUNS DOWN GROUP, IF THEY'RE NOT STREET LEGAL THAT THEY'RE OPERATING,
THEN YES, WE CAN IMPOUND THOSE. AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE MADE ARRESTS OF THOSE GROUPS. SO YES. YES. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. SO I'VE BEEN SEEING THESE BICYCLE GROUPS FOR A LONG TIME. I LIVE ON THE VENETIAN MARK USED TO CALL IT IN. 
          I HAVE SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT THERE LESS THAN THEY USED TO BE. 
          AT ITS WORST, IT WAS DURING COVID. BUT IT'S STILL A PROBLEM. 
          I KNOW THAT RESIDENTS ON THE VENETIAN CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY POLICE. 
          I TEXT YOU WHENEVER I SEE THEM AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHICH DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING AND
WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          BUT THE MAJOR OFFENSE THAT THEY'RE DOING IS A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. 
          BUT IT'S A MATTER OF CATCHING THEM IN THE ACT. 
          I KNOW IN THE PAST, AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS THE MIAMI POLICE WILL NOTIFY YOU WILL
NOTIFY US WHEN THEY'RE COMING OVER THE VENETIAN. 
          ARE THERE CAMERAS THERE TO SEE THEM AS WELL? ON THE MIAMI BEACH SIDE,
MAYBE NEAR THE SIGN SO THAT OUR INTEL GROUP ARCTIC CAN SEE THEM COMING IN. SO THE THERE ARE CAMERAS ON THE VENETIAN THAT WE CAN MONITOR. 
          THE PROBLEM COMES IN THAT THE TECHNOLOGY TO ALERT US TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR CAMERA AT
THAT PARTICULAR TIME WITH, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF BICYCLES OR SOMETHING BEING COMING THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT
POINT TECHNOLOGY WISE. 
          SO IDEALLY, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO GET TO THAT POINT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THE FOLKS IN THE ARCTIC AND OUR TECH SERVICES FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT
DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS THAT UTILIZE AI TO UNDERSTAND THE NORMAL PICTURE THE CAMERA SEEING DAY TO DAY, AND THEN ALERT YOU TO ANOMALIES. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM
HERE? WHAT CAN WE DO TO DO TO SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT IS TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGICAL
INNOVATIVE STUFF OUT THERE THAT WE COULD USE TO KIND OF DISABLE ONE OF THESE BIKES IF THEY 
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FLEE FROM US AT THIS TIME, THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT'S
SAFE AND ACCEPTED FOR US TO USE IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          WE ARE BUT YOU SAID IN THE UNITED STATES THAT MEANS IT'S SAFE TO USE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. 
          OTHER COUNTRIES MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT A COMMISSION MEETING A FEW MONTHS AGO WAS
THESE THINGS THAT WERE BEING USED IN SOUTHEAST ASIA TO STOP MOPEDS. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE ROADWAY NUT IT WAS SOMETHING INVOLVING A NET THAT WAS DISCHARGED AT,
YOU KNOW, EITHER FROM A ROADWAY OR FROM ANOTHER VEHICLE TO STOP DEPLOYABLE NETS TO TRAP THE WHEELS. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IS THAT LAWS AND ANY OF THE
INTERVENTION ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US ARE DESIGNED TO STOP CARS OR DESIGNED TO TAG CARS, TO TRACK CARS. 
          WHEN WE START TO INVOLVE OURSELVES IN DEPLOYING SOME TYPE OF A DEVICE TO STOP AN
INDIVIDUAL ON A TWO WHEELED VEHICLE, A BICYCLE OR AN E-MOBILITY VEHICLE OR WHATEVER,
WE ELEVATE THE RISK OF THEM FALLING OFF THAT VEHICLE AND SUSTAINING A SERIOUS HEAD INJURY, POTENTIALLY DEATH, AS A RESULT OF US INTERVENING TO STOP THEM. 
          WHEN THE INITIATING FACTOR IS A EITHER A TRAFFIC INFRACTION OR THEM FAILING TO STOP FOR
POLICE. 
          SO THE LEVEL OF SERIOUSNESS OF WHAT THE OFFENSE IS,
DOES NOT ALLOW US TO INTERVENE WITH THAT PARTICULAR METHOD TO STOP THEM BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR SERIOUS INJURY. DO WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS STATIONED AT THE AT THE
ENTRANCE OF THE CITY, AT OUR CAUSEWAYS? NOT ALL THE TIME. I KNOW DURING CERTAIN SPECIAL EVENTS OR DURING CERTAIN
HIGH IMPACT PERIODS, WE DO HAVE A DEDICATED PRESENCE ON 41ST STREET ON MACARTHUR,
AND WE DO HAVE A 24 HOUR PRESENCE ON THE VENETIAN BECAUSE IF THE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR TEAM IS WORKING WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE
ARCTIC TO IMPLEMENT THAT ARTIFICIAL TECHNOLOGY SO THAT SO THAT YOU CAN EASILY IDENTIFY THESE GROUPS AS THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR CITY. 
          BUT IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THERE YET, I'M SURE,
I'M SURE THERE MUST BE. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE PATTERN, I'M SURE WE CAN DETERMINE,
YOU KNOW, THESE GROUPS PROBABLY ARE NOT COMING DURING SCHOOL HOURS. 
          I'D SAY THEY'RE PROBABLY COMING WEEKENDS. YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE COMING WEEKENDS DURING CERTAIN HOURS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          COULDN'T WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS STATIONED? COULDN'T WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS STATIONED? ONE ONE POLICE OFFICER STATIONED, YOU KNOW, AND WE KNOW THE ISSUES,
THE VENETIAN COUNCIL, WE KNOW THEY COME IN BY THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY,
HAVE A POLICE OFFICER PERMANENTLY STATIONED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CAUSEWAY. 
          WHEN WE KNOW THAT THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE WEEKENDS MAINLY SO THAT AS THEY SEE THIS COME IN,
THEY CAN NOTIFY THE ARCTIC. 
          THE ARCTIC CAN DEPLOY THE DRONE. THE DRONE CAN FOLLOW THEM AND COMMUNICATE ON THE GROUND,
YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE SAW WITH THE MOTORCYCLE THAT WAS STOLEN IN REAL TIME. 
          COULDN'T WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE COULD ABSOLUTELY EXPLORE ANY AND ALL POSSIBILITIES
TO TRY AND BE ABLE TO GET US THAT NOTIFICATION. 
          DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE VENUE. 
          LIKE DON'T. ISN'T THERE ALWAYS. THERE'S A PERMANENT POLICE VEHICLE THAT'S ON THE VENETIAN
CAUSEWAY. 
          IS THAT VEHICLE STAFFED USUALLY, OR NO? YES. THERE'S A PERMANENT VENETIAN OFFICER ASSIGNED
ON ALL SHIFTS 24 HOURS A DAY. 
          BUT THAT OFFICER IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO RESPOND TO CALLS ON THE VENETIAN AND TO PATROL THE
VENETIAN. 
          SO WE CAN EXPLORE WAYS TO HAVE AN INCREASED PRESENCE ON THE VENETIAN. 
          DURING THE HOURS THAT THESE KIDS HAVE COME INTO OUR CITY MOST REGULARLY TO GET THAT
EARLIEST NOTIFICATION POSSIBLE, AND ALSO CONTINUE COLLABORATING WITH MIAMI. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE KIDS
ARE COMING IN THROUGH THE VENETIAN. THESE THESE ARE THE KIDS THAT ARE COMING IN ON BICYCLES, CORRECT? ARE THOSE THE SAME KIDS THAT ARE COMING IN ON DIRT BIKES AND ATVS? ARE THEY COMING IN THROUGH THROUGH THE VENETIAN COLLEGE? NO. AND THEY'VE BEEN EVEN LESS PREDICTABLE FROM WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO THE CITY. 
          THEY'VE COME IN FROM SURFSIDE SOUTHBOUND INTO OUR CITY ALONG HARDING AND IN THAT AREA. 
          SO FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, THEY'VE COME ACROSS 71ST STREET. THEY'VE COME ACROSS THE
VENETIAN. I'M NOT THE VENETIAN, THE JULIA TUTTLE, AND THEY'VE COME ACROSS THE MACARTHUR IN THE PAST. SO THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO PREDICT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO COME FROM. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE BETTER INTELLIGENCE AS TO WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE WRITING. 
          OKAY. COMMISSIONER SALINAS CHIEF THE TOLL BOOTH THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE VENETIAN. 
          HAVE WE EXPLORED MAYBE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM? THAT WAY THEY CAN NOTIFY WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND YOU CAN SEND A UNIT TO PREVENT THEM
FROM COMING IN OR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION BECAUSE THEY'LL ALL SEE THEM COME IN. 
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AND IF WE COULD CONNECT WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALSO COAST GUARD OR IF THAT'S THE
COUNTY THAT DOES THAT TOLL ON THE ON THAT SIDE. 
          OKAY. SO THEN, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          AND THEN WE STOP THEM EVEN BEFORE THEY GET IN. 
          AND WE SAY, LISTEN, WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND PLEASE TURN AROUND. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF THAT'S EVEN LEGAL TO NOT ALLOW THEM. 
          I DON'T THINK THE BRIDGE OPERATOR CAN TURN THEM AROUND,
BUT HE CAN. 
          NO, NO, BUT POLICE CAN NOTIFY POLICE AND THEN POLICE. 
          WE REALLY DON'T TURN THEM AROUND. WE JUST MAKE OUR PRESENCE KNOWN FROM THE MOMENT THEY'RE
COMING INTO THE CITY. 
          AND WHEN THEY SEE A MOTORCYCLE THAT CAN KEEP UP WITH THEM AND HAS THE SAME AGILITY AS
THEIR BICYCLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THEY REALIZE THEY CAN'T RIDE IN THE MANNER THAT THEY LIKE TO RIDE IN,
SO THEY USUALLY ELECT TO LEAVE THE CITY. 
          SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TELLING THEM TO LEAVE AS THEY CHOOSE TO LEAVE. 
          LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING, CHIEF. NUMBER ONE,
I, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SAID THIS CONSISTENTLY OVER, OVER, OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICE OFFICER ASSIGNED
TO OUR MAIN ENTRANCES. 
          AND SO WHETHER IT BE ON COLLINS AVENUE OR ON 71ST STREET ON,
YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE VENETIAN, ON ON MACARTHUR. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AS IT IS ALREADY ON 41ST STREET,
WE HAVE A HIGH, YOU KNOW, POLICE VISIBILITY PRESENCE ON 41ST STREET. 
          BUT ON OUR OTHER ENTRY POINTS, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS STATIONED
THERE AT ALL TIMES. 
          I DO THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE, A MESSAGE OF DETERRENCE,
A MESSAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COME HERE, EXPECT TO FOLLOW THE LAWS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE WE TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          SO I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICE OFFICER ALWAYS ASSIGNED TO THE MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY AT
THE ENTRY POINTS TO THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THEM ON ARTHUR GODFREY HAVE IT ON 71ST STREET. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT, YOU KNOW,
I KNOW THAT THAT ALSO TAKES RESOURCES AND OUR RESOURCES ARE OFTEN VERY SCARCE, BUT I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY,
FOR EXAMPLE, WITH WITH THE DIRT BIKES AND THE ATVS AND AND THESE GROUPS OF BICYCLES, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAPPEN MAINLY ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          YOU KNOW AND THAT'S PROBABLY WEEKENDS. WE PROBABLY,
OUR POLICE ARE PROBABLY IN MORE DEMAND. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE. COULDN'T WE PARTNER, FOR EXAMPLE,
I WOULD IMAGINE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, MIAMI-DADE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WOULD IMAGINE THEIR OFFICERS ARE BUSIER DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN
SCHOOLS ARE OPEN, BUT THEY'RE LESS BUSY ON THE WEEKENDS AND NIGHTS WHEN PERHAPS THEY ARE IN LESS DEMAND. 
          COULDN'T WE ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT? INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT? THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW,
WE COULD PARTNER WITH THEM, USE, USE SOME OF THEIR MEN AND WOMEN. 
          WHEN, WHEN WE MIGHT BE BUSIER WEEKENDS AND NIGHTS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO,
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN PUT A POLICE
OFFICER STATIONED ON THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY AT THE, AT THE ENTRY POINT. BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE,
YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE UNDERUTILIZED DURING CERTAIN TIMES. 
          AND I'M JUST ASSUMING I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED OR NOT,
BUT I'M JUST ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WHY NOT,
YOU KNOW, USE SOME NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS WHEN WE MIGHT NEED EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SOME EXTRA SUPPORT. THANK YOU SIR. SO WHEN WE HAVE UTILIZED MIAMI-DADE SCHOOLS POLICE TO
SUPPLEMENT OUR OUR OPERATIONS HERE, WE DO HAVE AN MOU WITH THEM. WE HAVE TO COMPENSATE THEM FOR FOR THE TIME. 
          SO THE CITY HIRES THEM OFF DUTY TO HELP SUPPLEMENT OUR RANKS DURING HIGH IMPACT WEEKENDS. 
          WE CAN SPEAK TO THEM TO SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          BUT THE PROBLEM THEN BECOMES THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT AND HAVING THE RESOURCES TO PAY
THEM THE OFF DUTY DETAILS. 
          NOW WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO EXPAND OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AS MORE PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE ACADEMY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND YEARS,
AND THE THE PLAN THAT CHIEF JONES HAS OUTLINED IS TO HAVE MORE RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. SO I BELIEVE IN THE CONCEPT OF HAVING
RESOURCES DEPLOYED TO BE HIGHLY VISIBLE, LIKE YOU SUGGEST, AND TO SET THE TONE WHEN PEOPLE ENTER THE CITY,
BUT ALSO TASK THOSE RESOURCES WITH BEING PRODUCTIVE BY CONDUCTING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IN A HIGH VISIBILITY FASHION. SO IT'S KIND OF GETTING THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. PEOPLE HIT CITY
LIMITS AND THEY SEE OFFICERS HIGHLY VISIBLE CONDUCTING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, 
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AND IT SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT THEY NEED TO BASICALLY FOLLOW THE LAW AND OPERATE THEIR
VEHICLES AT A CORRECT SPEED. 
          COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. THESE BICYCLE GROUPS,
SOME OF THEM, THEY TEND TO BE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT COME, SAME KIDS THAT COME OVER AND OVER. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP AND GET
AN INFORMANT? SO I DON'T WANT TO REVEAL ANY POTENTIAL INVESTIGATIVE OPTIONS,
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ANY AND ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE BEHIND THE GROUP,
WHO THE LEADERS ARE OF THE GROUP. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN OPTION AT SOME POINT,
BUT WE ABSOLUTELY ARE OPEN AND EXPLORING WAYS TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GROUP IS WORKING AND WHO THE LEADERS ARE BEHIND IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO BRING THIS IN FOR, FOR,
FOR ATLANTIC, I, I LIKE COMMISSIONER SALINAS'S IDEA OF WORKING WITH THE OPERATORS OF, OF THE OF THE TOLL BOOTH EVEN I THINK THEY HAVE A LITTLE
OFFICE THAT'S THERE. 
          AND PERHAPS ENTERING INTO, INTO SOME SORT OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM. 
          I THINK, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE US TO BRING AN ITEM TO COMMISSION,
I WOULD LIKE US TO BRING AN ITEM TO COMMISSION AT EVERY ENTRY POINT TO THIS CITY. 
          PEOPLE NEED TO BE WELCOMED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          I THINK IT JUST SETS AN IMAGE. IT SETS A MESSAGE. 
          WE THEY ALL KNOW THAT THE LPRS ARE HERE AND ALL THAT. 
          OR AT LEAST WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT THE LPRS ARE HERE,
BUT I. 
          BUT BUT THE VISUAL, THE PRESENCE OF HAVING A POLICE OFFICER AT EVERY ENTRY POINT IS
SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN MENTIONING FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR A LONG TIME. BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE US TO, TO, TO BRING AN ITEM TO COMMISSION DIRECTING THAT,
ESPECIALLY DURING CERTAIN PEAK HOURS, ESPECIALLY DURING CERTAIN HOURS WHEN WE KNOW THAT THESE GANGS ARE ARE COMING IN. 
          COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. 
          YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER SALINAS BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD IDEA,
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE EXPLORED, BUT IF YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW,
CERTAIN PEOPLE WITHIN THESE GANGS ARE COMMITTING SOME ATROCIOUS YOU KNOW, VIOLATIONS THAT PUT A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AT RISK AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING ON THE
VENETIAN. 
          IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING WITH SOME OF THESE BRIDGE OPERATORS,
PERHAPS WHEN THEY'RE GOING WEST, YOU ASK THAT WEST BRIDGE TO OPEN UP, AND THEN YOU ASK THE EAST BRIDGE TO CLOSE,
AND THEN THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE. 
          AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM FLEEING AND THEY'RE IN A CONTAINED AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO TRY. SO THAT THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO BE ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST. ESPECIALLY WHEN VEHICLES WERE TRYING TO FLEE ACROSS THE VENETIAN. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE DECLINED TO TO DO THAT FOR US IN IN
SUBSEQUENT YEARS. 
          BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY, VERY USED YEARS AGO. 
          THERE WAS A PHONE CALL MADE TO THE BRIDGE, TENDERS TO RAISE THE BRIDGE,
AND THEN WE WOULD CATCH PEOPLE TRYING TO STOP THAT. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OPEN THE BRIDGE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
LOOK, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH THE COAST GUARD,
RIGHT? COMMISSIONER VERY UNRESPONSIVE, UNFORTUNATELY. WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE ON FURLOUGH AT THE MOMENT,
SO I DON'T EVEN BEFORE THAT, I MEAN, JUST WELL, MAYBE WE CAN. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH. 
          BECAUSE WITH THE ADMIRAL AT THE COAST GUARD STATION. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP US RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN A
SAFE MANNER AND HAVE PEOPLE WRITING LEGALLY IN OUR CITY. 
          OKAY. SO SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS ITEM ARE THREE AND AND COLLEAGUES,
FEEL FREE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE MISSING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF A. WITH WITH PUBLIC WORKS AT THE COUNTY. 
          FOR FOR FOR COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION FROM THE TOLL BOOTH AT THE ENTRANCE POINT TO
THE CITY AT THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY, SO THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE TO US WHAT THEY SEE DURING CERTAIN PEAK HOURS. 
          IDENTIFY PERMANENT POLICE PRESENCE AT OUR, AT OUR,
AT OUR ENTRY POINTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ON ITEM NUMBER NUMBER THREE WOULD BE TO COLLABORATE OR TO URGE THE COAST GUARD TO WORK WITH
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN, IN, IN ONE POSSIBLE OPENING UP THE BRIDGE TO BE ABLE TO TO STOP THESE BICYCLE GANGS
AND BICYCLE GROUPS AS THEY'RE MAKING THEIR WAY INTO, INTO THE CITY. 
          ARE WE, ARE WE GOOD WITH THESE THREE TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS ITEM? OR DOES THIS NEED TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION FOR FOR RATIFICATION? 
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YES. THE WELL, THE IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS WILLING TO PUT POLICE AT EVERY ENTRY POINT, I BELIEVE WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT THEY WOULD NEED FUNDING TO DO THAT. 
          AND SO THAT, OF COURSE, NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION APPROACHING THE VENETIAN
CAUSEWAY FOR HELP WITH THE OPERATOR THERE. 
          I BELIEVE THEY COULD DO ON THEIR OWN IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT. 
          AND COLLABORATING WITH THE COAST GUARD TO OPEN THE BRIDGE,
I THINK WOULD TAKE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION. SO I THINK I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE,
SO WE SHOULD SEND, WE SHOULD PUT AN URGING ON THE, ON THE AGENDA FOR THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE COAST GUARD COORDINATION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO PUT AN URGING ON THE AGENDA THAT I. 
          OF COURSE, I'D LIKE TO, TO SPEAK WITH THE, WITH THE CHIEF ABOUT IT,
BUT ABOUT OUR ENTRY POINTS I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO WORK ON ON AN URGING TO PUT BACK ON THE, ON THE AGENDA BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION. 
          AND THEN AND THEN I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED DIRECTION,
BUT I DO THINK IT'S GOOD TO FORMALIZE. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN GET OUR,
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION WITH, WITH, WITH THE TOLL OFFICE, WE CAN WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DISTRICT AT THE
COUNTY WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT AREA TO, TO ASSIST US WITH THAT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BRING THESE BACK AS ACTION ITEMS TO THE
COMMISSION. 
          ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SECOND BY THE CHAIR AND SEEING ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
SPEAK. 
          SEEING NONE IN PERSON, NONE ON ZOOM. WE CAN SHOW THIS ITEM AS ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES, AND WE CAN SHOW THIS ITEM CLOSED. 
          YEAH. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE,
I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE OUT OF ORDER. 
          STEPHANIE. ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSSED. THE GREEN JEFFERSON AVENUE BICYCLE LANES WITH
THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY 
          [ DISCUSS THE GREEN JEFFERSON AVENUE BICYCLE LANES WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND MIAMI BEACH FIRE RESCUE.]
DEPARTMENT OF MIAMI BEACH FIRE RESCUE. THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. 
          COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ, ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE. OKAY. 
          OH. THIS ONE. OKAY. THE ONE ABOUT THE VENETIAN. 
          YES. YES. IT'S AN ADDENDUM TO. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. LET ME. LET'S JUST HAVE STEPHANIE READ IT INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. 
          ADDENDUM NUMBER TWO IS DISCUSS. TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE RENAMING OF VENETIAN WAY TO
HONOR HAZEL ABRAMS. 
          [ DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION REGARDING RENAMING VENETIAN WAY TO HONOR HAZEL ABRAMS CYPEN, PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SEC. 82-503(C)(2).]
PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SECTION 82-503, THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SECOND YOUR MOTION. I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MOVE
THE ITEM. 
          SECOND. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE IN PERSON, NONE IN ZOOM. CAN WE ADOPT THIS BY ACCLAMATION? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE IS DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF I'M SORRY,
NO ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND SIX. 
          [ DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF SAFE AND STRATEGICALLY LOCATED BICYCLE (AND OTHER MICROMOBILITY DEVICE) PARKING SITES IN SOUTH BEACH.]
          [ DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL EXTENSION OF THE 6-MONTH PILOT PROGRAM FOR BICYCLE AND MICROMOBILITY DEVICE STORAGE AT LARGE-SCALE EVENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.]
SORRY, NO. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A SAFE AND STRATEGICALLY
LOCATED BICYCLE AND OTHER MICROMOBILITY DEVICES, PARKING SITES IN SOUTH BEACH. AND ITEM NUMBER SIX IS DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL EXTENSION OF
THE SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM FOR BICYCLE AND MICROMOBILITY DEVICES. 
          STORAGE AT LARGE SCALE EVENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU STEPHANIE. SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THAT,
THAT I WANT TO TAKE TOGETHER FIVE, FIVE AND SIX. 
          BECAUSE IT, IT RELATES TO MICRO MOBILITY AND WHERE,
AND HOW THESE DEVICES ARE, ARE PARKED IN, IN OUR PUBLIC SPACES AND IN OUR EVENTS. ONE ITEM FOCUSES ON EXPANDING BICYCLE AND MICRO
MOBILITY PARKING IN SOUTH BEACH WHILE THE OTHER ITEM LOOKS AT STORAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGE SCALE EVENTS. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT IS THE SAME THEME OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE THEIR,
THEIR BICYCLE AND MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES AND PROVIDING FOR THEM A PLACE WHERE TO PUT THEM FROM READING THE MEMO. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE DONE MEANINGFUL PROGRESS OVER, OVER,
OVER THE YEARS. 
          BUT IT SEEMS LIKE OUR APPROACH IS RATHER REACTIVE RATHER THAN,
THAN PROACTIVE. 
          AND, AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE DID FOR,
FOR EVENTS FOR STORAGE OF MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES AT EVENTS 
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SHOWED VERY LITTLE USAGE OF, OF THAT TEMPORARY STORAGE. 
          WHICH KIND OF INDICATES TO ME THAT, THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT THE DEMAND BECAUSE THERE ARE
PEOPLE USING USING BICYCLES. 
          IT'S JUST THAT THE POLICIES HAVEN'T BEEN DESIGNED PROPERLY THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND
LOOK AT THESE POLICIES AND AND MAKE IT CLEAR MAKING, MAKING CLEAR THAT THE, THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WANT FOR,
FOR, FOR PARKING OF BICYCLES, WHETHER IT'S HOLISTICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR WHETHER IT BE WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS LIKE
SCOPE OR UNTITLED, OR ART BASEL OR THE BOAT SHOW OR ANY OF THESE. 
          OF THESE OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE A HOLISTIC PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE JOSE GONZALEZ TO LEAD US IN THIS CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOSE GONZALEZ,
TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DIRECTOR. 
          SO I'LL SPEAK TO THE PORTION OF THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE BICYCLE PARKING. 
          AND AND I'LL FOCUS ON JUST THE DAY TO DAY DEMANDS AND,
AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR NOT JUST BICYCLE PARKING, BUT MICRO MOBILITY PARKING AS WELL. SO THE FIRST,
THE FIRST REALLY COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT TO EXPAND BICYCLE PARKING IN OUR CITY CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE 2016 TRANSPORTATION AND BICYCLE MASTER
PLAN. 
          THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST EFFORT. AT THAT POINT,
WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE CITY WE SURVEYED WHERE EVERY BICYCLE RACK WAS LOCATED, AND THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED AREAS FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDED BICYCLE PARKING. 
          SINCE THEN. SO THIS IS TEN YEARS AGO. SINCE THEN,
THERE HAVE BEEN OVER A THOUSAND BICYCLE RACKS INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER A THOUSAND. THE, THE CITY'S STANDARD BICYCLE PARKING DEVICE IS THE
STANDARD. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE THIS. AND IT COULD BE USED BY MICROMOBILITY DEVICES AS
WELL. 
          SO THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST CONCERTED EFFORT SINCE THAT TIME. 
          COMMISSIONER. YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S BEEN MORE A DEMAND BASED,
NEEDS BASED, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL IT REACTIONARY, BUT IT'S BASED ON, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A BUSINESS OPENS UP AND THEY CALL AND THEY SAY,
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE A COUPLE BIKE RACKS IN FRONT OF MY ESTABLISHMENT. 
          THEN WE'LL GO AND WE'LL WE'LL INSTALL THOSE. SO THAT'S BEEN THE APPROACH OF FOR THE PAST
FEW YEARS. 
          WE'VE ALSO FOCUSED ON LONG TERM BICYCLE PARKING BECAUSE BICYCLE RACKS ARE MORE FOR THE,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A COFFEE SHOP,
YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A STORE FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND YOU WANT TO PARK YOUR BIKE CLOSE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN A CONVENIENT WAY. BUT SOME,
YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS COMMUTE TO, TO, TO WORK, WE COMMUTE TO, TO WORK VIA BICYCLE AND THEY NEED TO STORE THEIR BICYCLE FOR SEVERAL HOURS, EIGHT HOURS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WE'VE ESTABLISHED VERTICAL PARKING FACILITIES IN SEVEN
PARKING GARAGES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH WAYFINDING SIGNS POINTING PEOPLE TO WHERE THE VERTICAL PARKING FACILITY IS. 
          AND SO THAT ALLOWS BICYCLISTS TO STORE THEIR BICYCLES OR MICROMOBILITY DEVICES FOR,
YOU KNOW, LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. 
          DO WE I KNOW WITH CARS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, USING CELL PHONE TECHNOLOGY AND GOOGLE MAPS AND
ALL THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, OUR AREAS OF HIGHEST TRAFFIC WHERE PEOPLE START,
WHERE PEOPLE END. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE IF I'M USING A BICYCLE, I KNOW WHEN I GO OUT FOR A WALK AND I WANT TO WALK
SOMEWHERE, ESPECIALLY IF I'M A TOURIST OR EVEN HERE I'LL PUT ON MY GOOGLE MAPS,
YOU KNOW, HOW DO I GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, THE BEST WAY TO GET THERE? WALKING OR EVEN JUST TO TIME MYSELF. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE A PERSON ON A, ON A BICYCLE IS PROBABLY DOING,
DOING THE SAME THING, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT FROM THE AREA. 
          IS THERE, DO WE HAVE A HEAT MAP? CAN WE USE THAT TECHNOLOGY? IS THERE A WAY TO, TO, TO GET A HEAT MAP OF WHERE MICRO-MOBILITY DEMAND,
BICYCLE DEMAND EXISTS IN, IN OUR CITY, SPECIFICALLY IN SOUTH BEACH. 
          SO THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION. I WOULD SAY,
YES, I BELIEVE THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, THE, THE, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S USED TO TO DETECT TRIPS,
ORIGIN AND DESTINATIONS IS BASED ON CELL PHONE DATA. 
          THERE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME VEHICLES NOW THAT ARE BRINGING THAT TECHNOLOGY BUILT IN. 
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BUT HOW IT STARTED WAS JUST BASICALLY PINGING YOUR,
YOUR CELL PHONE, YOUR IP ADDRESS ON YOUR CELL PHONE. 
          SO IF A PERSON ON THEIR BICYCLE OR MICROMOBILITY DEVICE IS USING A CELL PHONE,
THE TRICK IS GOING TO BE, CAN WE DIFFERENTIATE? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN A VEHICLE VERSUS A BICYCLE VERSUS A
SCOOTER? LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. COMMISSIONER. I THINK THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING
QUESTION, BECAUSE WHAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT YOU MENTIONED. 
          THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE DO HAVE A FRAGMENTED SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE A FRAGMENTED SYSTEM, WHEREAS IT IS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CALLING WHO ARE ASKING FOR
BICYCLE RACKS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE COMING IN TO PUT THE BICYCLE RACK,
WHEREAS IT SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE. AND, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG. NUMBER ONE,
WE SHOULD BE PUTTING INTO GOOGLE MAPS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PREPARATION FOR THIS ITEM, I WANTED TO GOOGLE MAPS AND,
AND I PUT ME TO I THINK I PUT SMITH AND WOLLENSKY IN SOUTH POINT PARK FROM MY HOUSE ON A BICYCLE. IT SHOWS ME THE ROUTE, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHERE I CAN STORE MY BICYCLE. 
          IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHERE YOU HAVE PLACED ONE OF THESE YOU RACKS. 
          AND SO I GOT TO SMITH AND WOLLENSKY AND AND THEN WHAT DO I DO? AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO SMITH AND WOLLENSKY WITH MY BICYCLE. 
          I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO JUST LEAVE IT OUT THERE. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO PUT IT. AND I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW,
LOCK IT TO A TO A, TO A POLE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE THE HEAT MAP OF WHERE IS THE CONSUMPTION? WHERE, WHERE ARE PEOPLE USING BICYCLES, YOU KNOW,
IN THIS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, FRANKLY, NOT JUST SOUTH BEACH, BUT, BUT I THINK SOUTH BEACH IS A GOOD CASE MODEL BECAUSE I THINK THERE,
WE PROBABLY DO SEE THE, THE HIGHER USE THEN NUMBER TWO, HOW DO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR,
FOR, FOR PEOPLE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TODAY? CAN WE WORK WITH APPLE MAPS, WITH GOOGLE MAPS? I SAW ONLINE THERE WAS ANOTHER THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER WEBSITE. THERE'S ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT THAT TELLS YOU LOCATIONS OF OF
BICYCLE RACKS AND IT'S POPULATED BY THE USERS. MAYBE WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH THEM AS,
AS WELL, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO TO USE THESE,
THESE MAPS TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, IT TELLS THEM, OKAY, THIS IS THE NEARBY STORAGE LOCATIONS. I THINK I,
I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO SEEING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
PREDICTABILITY. 
          THERE SHOULD BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF PREDICTABILITY THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO A COMMERCIAL
CORRIDOR, THE SAME WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FREIGHT LOADING ZONE,
WE HAVE THE ANTIQUATED TAXI STANDS THAT WE STILL HAVE A FEW AROUND THIS CITY. THERE SHOULD BE A CERTAIN MASS MASTER PLAN THAT CREATES A
CERTAIN LEVEL OF PREDICTABILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO WHOLE FOODS. 
          I DON'T NEED TO BE GUESSING. WELL, IS THERE GOING TO BE A BICYCLE RACK OR NOT? IF I DECIDE TO GO TO WHOLE FOODS ON MY BICYCLE,
I JUST KNOW THAT BASED ON THE WAY THAT WE PLAN IT, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPECT THAT PROBABLY WITHIN A BLOCK OR HALF A BLOCK OF OF WHOLE FOODS. 
          IT SHOULD BE EASY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE,
TO LOCATE A BICYCLE RACK. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE SOME SORT OF,
OF MASTER PLANNING LIKE THAT? COMMISSIONER WE HAVE NOT, BUT THE TIMING IS,
IS PERFECT BECAUSE AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THAT TEN YEAR OLD MASTER PLAN FROM 2016. SO AND IT WILL INCORPORATE AND IT WILL BE A UNIFIED MASTER PLAN
THAT WILL INCORPORATE ALL MODES, INCLUDING BICYCLE. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW,
SINCE TECHNOLOGY HAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY GONE A LONG WAY IN THE PAST TEN YEARS TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE AND INTEGRATE NOT JUST THE BICYCLE ROUTES,
BUT, AS YOU'RE MENTIONING, THE BICYCLE PARKING AS PART OF A MOBILE APP. 
          WE HAVE A MOBILE APP THAT INTEGRATES OUR TROLLEY SERVICE,
OUR FREEBEE SERVICE. 
          WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OF HAVING THE WATER TAXI SHOW AS WELL. 
          SO THE MODES ARE THERE. WE COULD ADD BICYCLE,
BUT THIS ISN'T A SEPARATE APP. 
          THIS IS THE. WELL, NO, IT'S IT'S THE IT'S GOOGLE. 
          IF I'M NOT IT'S IT'S THROUGH GOOGLE. GOOGLE. IT'S ON GOOGLE. 
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YEAH. IT'S THAT'S THE KEY THING. WE NEED TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          WE CAN'T BE SENDING PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT APPS. 
          WE NEED TO, AS MUCH AS WE CAN CENTRALIZE AND MEET PEOPLE. 
          IF PEOPLE ARE USING APPLE MAPS, WELL, THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN APPLE MAPS AND
APPLE MAPS, IT SHOWS THEM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THE BICYCLE PARKING IS AT. 
          IF THEY'RE USING GOOGLE MAPS, I WANT THEM GOOGLE MAPS TO,
TO, TO, TO, TO SHOW THEM. 
          IN FACT, WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH RIDESHARE BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, WE DO KNOW THAT MICROMOBILITY AND BICYCLES IS THAT FIRST LAST MILE THAT CLOSES THAT GAP. WHEN INDIVIDUALS WANT TO WANT TO USE RIDESHARE. 
          AND SO EVEN TO THE EXTENT, YOU KNOW, UBER, LYFT AND THE RIDESHARE PLATFORMS SO I'D LIKE US
TO TO, TO, TO LOOK AT INTEGRATING THAT SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING HOLISTIC,
WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE CURRENT PATTERNS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED THOSE, THOSE HEAT MAPS,
BUT WE NEED TO CREATE PREDICTABILITY, PREDICTABILITY SO THAT THE PERSON WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT GOING TO USE A MAP TO GO OUT THERE,
THEY CAN COUNT THAT WITH, WITH, WITH SOME SORT OF RELIABILITY THAT, OKAY,
I KNOW HOW TO GET THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WHERE TO PARK. 
          WELL, NO, THAT SHOULD BE EASY BECAUSE THE SAME WAY WE HAVE PARALLEL PARKING AND PARKING
GARAGES WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA, WE SHOULD ALSO MAKE IT SOMEWHAT PREDICTABLE THAT WHENEVER,
WHEREVER WE HAVE ON STREET PARKING, SOMEWHERE CLOSED, AND ANY BLOCK THAT HAS ON STREET PARKING WITHIN A CERTAIN PROXIMITY
SHOULD HAVE PUBLIC PARKING. PUBLIC BICYCLE RACKS, I BELIEVE,
ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. 
          COLLEAGUES, I'M OPEN TO YOUR FEEDBACK. COMMENTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE IS ON ZOOM. 
          THIS IS HIS ITEM I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR FOR FOR PLACING THIS ITEM,
BECAUSE I DO. 
          I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A TYPE OF, OF ITEM THAT THAT HELPS ENSURE YOU KNOW THAT NOT ONLY
ARE WE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO, TO USE MICROMOBILITY, BUT THAT THEY DO IT SAFELY AND THAT THAT THEIR DEVICES ARE KEPT
SAFE. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER SALINAS, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE IMAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IN THE IN
THE PACKET AND YOU KNOW, I JUST. IS THIS THE ONLY. WHAT OTHER WHAT ELSE? I, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S LISTEN, I SUPPORT HAVING PUBLIC PARKING FOR BIKES. 
          I 100% SUPPORT IT IN THE RIGHT AREAS. AND I LIKE HOW THIS IS NOT TAKING UP A PARKING SPOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. I,
I WORRY THAT WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT'S UGLY, BUT WHATEVER. I MEAN, I JUST WORRY THAT IT'S GOING TO SIT THERE EMPTY AND UNUSED. 
          SO THIS IS TOO BIG. YEAH. SO MAYBE SOMETHING ABOUT HALF THE SIZE. 
          AND THEN THAT WAY IT CAN STILL HANDLE. I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE VOLUME
TO FILL THIS UP. AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES AN OBSTRUCTION AN UNSIGHTLY OBSTRUCTION. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING THERE'S BETTER THINGS THAT WE COULD AGREE. 
          JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS. SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO COMMISSIONER,
IS THE BICYCLE CORRAL THAT WAS INSTALLED AT DREXEL AND 14TH RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL OF FEINBERG. 
          FISHER AT THE REQUEST OF FEINBERG. FISHER. IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY SIMILAR ITEM A FEW YEARS
AGO AT THE QUALITY EDUCATION COMMITTEE. 
          THAT LED TO A MOTION WHICH THEN LED TO A COMMISSION RESOLUTION TO FOCUS ON BICYCLE PARKING
IMMEDIATELY AROUND ALL OUR SCHOOLS. 
          WONDERFUL. AND SO WE WORKED WITH EACH SCHOOL INDEPENDENTLY WITH THE PRINCIPAL OF EACH
SCHOOL. 
          AND THE REASON THAT THAT IS THERE IS BECAUSE I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THE THE CITY SPECIFIC
I'M SORRY, THE SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED IT. YES, IN THIS PICTURE,
OBVIOUSLY THERE, THERE ARE NO BICYCLE RACKS THERE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION OR NOT. 
          THEY TOOK THE PICTURE ONCE WE INSTALLED. OKAY,
SURE. 
          AND LISTEN, I SUPPORT THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION WHERE IT WILL BE USED IN FRONT OF THE
SCHOOLS. 
          BUT ELSEWHERE IN OUR CITY, I WORRY THAT WE WON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FILL THIS,
AND THEN IT'LL JUST KIND OF BE A CLUMP CLUMP, CLUNKY STRUCTURE, METAL STRUCTURE. WE ONLY HAVE THREE OF THESE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE AND THEY'RE ALL AROUND SCHOOLS. NO. 
          AND THE SECOND ONE ON PURA VIDA ON WASHINGTON AND FIRST ALL RESPECT. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE IN LOOMIS PARK, WHERE THE MUSCLE BEACH. 
          SO IT'S ALWAYS ALL RESPECT. BUT THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE HEAT
MAPS FROM FROM USER DATA CAN HELP DRIVE WHERE THESE WHERE THESE BICYCLE STORAGE INFRASTRUCTURES CAN BE PLACED. 
          AND IN FACT, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING, BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS AND YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME EXPRESS IT IS THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WE LOSE WHEN WE REDESIGN ROADS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW FDOT
STANDARDS. 
          AND WE END UP, WE, WE END UP LOSING PARKING,
AND THEN YOU END UP WITH STRIPED AREAS. 
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AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU HAVE THOSE STRIPED AREAS BECAUSE OF COURSE,
A VEHICLE, AN SUV, A TRUCK, A PARK THERE COULD VERY WELL BLOCK THE THE WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE LINE OF SIGHT. IT TAKES AN ENGINEER THE LINE OF SIGHT OF OF OF VEHICLES. 
          APPARENTLY. NOW LINE OF SIGHT IS MORE SENSITIVE THAN WHAT IT WAS 40 YEARS AGO,
YOU KNOW, BUT SO NOW WE HAVE LESS PARKING BECAUSE OF IT. 
          BUT COULDN'T WE GO TO THOSE YELLOW STRIPED AREAS? AND RATHER THAN USE LOSING COMPLETELY THEIR PUBLIC UTILITY,
COULDN'T WE USE THEM FOR SOMETHING THAT IS LOW SCALE? I MEAN, A BICYCLE IS NOT A CAR. A BICYCLE YOU CAN SEE THROUGH BICYCLES,
BIKES, BICYCLES ARE NOT TALL MICRO MOBILITY SCOOTERS LIKE THE ONES THAT COMMISSIONER SUAREZ USES. THEY'RE NOT BULKY, SO YOU CAN STILL SEE THROUGH THEM AND THEY SHOULDN'T
IMPAIR SOMEONE'S LINE OF SIGHT. 
          COULDN'T WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE STRIPED AREAS THAT WE HAVE LOST AS PARKING TO REPURPOSE
THEM FOR THIS, FOR MICRO MOBILITY PARKING, WE COULD COMMISSIONER AND THOSE AREAS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING,
SOME ARE REQUIRED FOR LINE OF SIGHT, OTHERS ARE JUST LITTLE, WHAT WE CALL DEAD ZONES,
YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL IN THEM. 
          AND IN SOME OF THOSE DEAD ZONES, THESE THAT I'M REFERRING TO,
WE HAVE SOMETIMES INSTALLED, YOU KNOW, BICYCLE RACKS AND, AND YOU KNOW, OR SCOOTER PARKING. 
          PARKING WILL, WILL, WILL INSTALL SCOOTER PARKING. 
          IF IT'S A LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE, IF IT'S A SAFETY LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE,
IT'S A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WIGGLE ROOM. 
          THERE ARE LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT THAT SOMETHING COULD BE,
HOW BULKY IT COULD BE. 
          SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY, EVEN CONCEIVABLY YOU CAN HAVE BICYCLES IN A ROW THAT CAN
CREATE ALMOST LIKE A FENCE LIKE, BUT THAT'S WHERE, BUT LIKE, BUT, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE,
YOU KNOW, TO COMMISSIONER SALINAS'S POINT, IF YOU DON'T USE A CORRAL, BUT IF YOU USE MORE OF THE SUBTLE INFRASTRUCTURE,
YOU KNOW, THAT ISN'T AS VISUALLY IMPOSING, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO TO FIT, I DON'T KNOW, 20 OR 30 BIKES THE WAY THAT THIS CAN. 
          NO. BUT MIGHT IT BE ABLE TO FIT FOUR OR 5 OR 6 MAYBE. 
          WELL, THAT'S THAT'S 4 OR 5 OR SIX CARS NOW OFF THE ROAD. 
          AND THOSE ARE FOUR OR 5 OR 6 PEOPLE THAT NOW YOU'VE YOU'VE,
YOU'VE OFFERED THEM THE PREDICTABILITY AND THE CONVENIENCE OF GIVING THEM THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE USING MICROMOBILITY THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO
GET TO. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO CHANGE CULTURE. YOU KNOW,
SOMETIMES WE WANT TO RUSH AND CREATE THE BICYCLE LANES WITHOUT PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK THEIR BICYCLES SO THAT WE CAN START CHANGING THE
CULTURE. 
          AND SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE PUTTING THE EGG AHEAD OF THE CHICKEN. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA FOSTER THE BEHAVIOR AND ENCOURAGE THE BEHAVIOR BEFORE WE GO
AHEAD AND REDESIGN ALL OF OUR ROADS. 
          TO, TO, TO, TO ACCOMMODATE IT. SO, SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF
THIS. 
          COMMISSIONER. SUAREZ MR.. COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. 
          I MEAN THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT ALSO DOES SOMETHING UNINTENDED. 
          WELL, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF, BUT IF WE PUT A BICYCLE RACK IN THOSE SORT OF STRIPED
ZONES, THEN WE DON'T SEE IT'S NOT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN AMAZON TRUCK PARKED THERE BECAUSE
THEY PHYSICALLY CAN'T. 
          AND I SEE THAT ALL THE TIME, EVEN EVEN WITH THE NEW UPDATED PARKING RULES,
THEY JUST THEY THEY, SINCE THAT AREA IS FREE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE JUST GOING TO PARK THERE BECAUSE THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PARK THE BOX TRUCK. 
          AND THEN IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THAT LINE OF SIGHT. 
          AND THAT HAPPENED TO ME THE OTHER DAY. I WAS ACTUALLY RIDING AROUND FLAMINGO PARK AND
THERE WAS THIS HUGE FEDEX TRUCK. 
          AND I ALMOST, YOU KNOW, GOT HIT BY A CAR BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T SEE US AROUND THE CORNER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITERALLY A PHYSICAL BARRIER THERE WHERE THESE BOX TRUCKS CAN'T
PARK, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. AND WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT NOW THE RESIDENTS LOST A
PERMANENT PARKING SPACE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK TOWING FEDEX. YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT EASY OR GOOD LUCK, YOU KNOW, TOWING A, YOU KNOW, A SYSCO TRUCK. YEAH. ACTUALLY, SYSCO NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I WAS I WAS ON OCEAN DRIVE THIS WEEK AND I ACTUALLY TOOK A PICTURE OF
IT BECAUSE I WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION OF, OF A, OF A PARKING ENFORCEMENT TAKING A PICTURE AND CITING A SYSCO TRUCK,
LITERALLY ON, ON OCEAN DRIVE ON, ON THIS STRIPE PATH. AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE IT. 
          AND THEY JUST, THEY SAID, LOOK, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE THE TICKET. AND I ACTUALLY TOOK A
PICTURE OF A PARKING ATTENDANT TAKING A PICTURE OF THE LICENSE PLATE AND DOING HIS JOB, WHICH IS WHAT WE, WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. BUT IF THERE WAS NO,
IF THERE IS A PHYSICAL BARRIER THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
COMMISSIONER UNDERSTOOD. WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
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IN OTHER, IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE MORE ADVANCED THAN WE ARE IN MICRO MOBILITY. 
          THEY HAVE GARAGES, ENTIRE GARAGES THAT ARE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO BICYCLES,
AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          BUT THEY ARE WELL LIT. THEY'RE SAFE. THEY ARE SECURED WITH SECURITY GUARDS. 
          THEY ARE SO CLEAN YOU COULD EAT OFF THE FLOORS. 
          THEY HAVE ARTWORK INSTALLED. WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE GARAGES STRUCTURES ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO WORK WITH WILL MCDONALD FROM THE PARKING DEPARTMENT TO INSTALL
BIKE CORRALS INTO THE FIRST FLOOR, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH RAMPS THAT ARE ALREADY HAIR RAISING ON THE BEST DAY,
EVEN IF YOU'RE IN A CAR TO PARK FOR FREE IN OUR GARAGES. 
          BECAUSE SURE, IT'S LOVELY TO BE ABLE TO CYCLE UP TO THE DOOR OF THE STORE THAT YOU'RE
GOING INTO, BUT IT'S ALSO PRETTY NICE TO BE ABLE TO PARK YOUR CAR,
YOUR, YOUR BIKE IN A CENTRALLY LOCATED GARAGE AND THEN CONTINUE ON FOOT. 
          SO NO, NO TIME LIMIT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE PARKING THEIR THEIR BIKES
THERE FOR DAYS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'D HAVE TO PAY FOR PER HOUR. 
          IT'S OUT OF THE RAIN. IT'S EASY TO ACCESS AND THERE'S A LOT MORE ROOM ON FIRST FLOORS. 
          TYPICALLY YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GATORS OF VARIOUS SORTS OR OTHER TYPES OF UTILITY VEHICLES. 
          I'M QUITE SURE THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY CERTAINLY IN OUR MUNICIPAL LOTS TO,
TO START THERE AND THEN WORK WITH PRIVATE LOTS TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THEM EXTEND THAT COURTESY AS WELL. I, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, THAT IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S THE WAY
THAT WE SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING TO CREATE THAT PREDICTABILITY. 
          IF YOU KNOW THAT THE GARAGE HAD, I DON'T KNOW IT,
WHICH IS SOMEONE THAT WE HAVE ON, ON COLLINS AVENUE THE G3 COLLINS IF YOU IF YOU KNOW THAT THE COLLINS PARK GARAGE,
FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY COLLINS, COLLINS PARK GARAGE HAS CORRALLED PARKING. 
          YOU KNOW, I'LL BE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE MY BICYCLE TO THE PARK GARAGE TO GO TO THE BASQUE
MUSEUM TO GO TO, I DON'T KNOW, TO GO TO BLUE RIBBON SUSHI, TO GO WHEREVER BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE TO LEAVE MY, MY, MY, MY BICYCLE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO USE MY BICYCLE TO GO HAVE
LUNCH OR DINNER OR TO GO TO THE PICNIC AT THE BAR ON SATURDAY AT 4 P.M.,
WHICH I MISSED. 
          UNLESS, UNLESS I KNOW, UNLESS I KNOW THAT I CAN LEAVE MY BICYCLE SOMEWHERE. 
          ACTUALLY, PJ, I JUST SENT YOU AN IMAGE. IF YOU CAN DISPLAY THAT IMAGE AND ZOOM IN THERE
AND LET'S, LET'S ZOOM IN ON THAT IMAGE A LITTLE BIT. OKAY? THIS IS, THIS IS THE PARKING GARAGE ON 17TH STREET. 
          OKAY. SO RIGHT HERE ACROSS FROM CITY HALL BY THIS,
THIS, THIS PARKING GARAGE. 
          WERE. THE NEW WORLD CENTER SAID IT TELLS YOU THAT IT'S A MIAMI BEACH PARKING GARAGE. 
          IT TELLS YOU THAT IT THAT YOU HAVE A BLINK CHARGING STATION. 
          IT TELLS YOU ALL ALL OF THAT THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DOESN'T TELL YOU. IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER WHETHER YOU CAN PARK YOUR BICYCLE THERE
OR NOT. 
          AND YOU CAN. AND THAT'S AND BASICALLY, AND THAT'S,
THAT IS THAT IS THE IRONY OF IT ALL THAT THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THAT GARAGE. OKAY. WE HAVE A HUGE TWO LEVEL CORRAL,
A HUGE TWO LEVEL CORRAL, BUT PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY CAN USE THAT CORRAL,
BUT THEY KNOW IF THEY GO LOOK FOR A CHARGING STATION, THEY KNOW THEY CAN TAKE THEIR CAR THERE TO GET CHARGED AND THEY KNOW THEY CAN PARK THEIR,
THEIR, THEIR, THEIR VEHICLE THERE. BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM IS THAT THEY HAVE THE
ALTERNATIVE OF BEING ABLE TO PARK THEIR BICYCLE THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO INTEGRATE WITH,
YOU KNOW, GOOGLE MAPS, APPLE MAPS, UBER AND LYFT AND ALL OF THESE OTHER ALL OF THESE OTHER PLATFORMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE MEETING THE,
THE CONSUMER WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHICH IS IN THESE PLATFORMS TO TELL THEM, HEY, LISTEN, YOU HAVE THIS CONVENIENCE THAT WE'VE PLACED THERE. 
          SO TO BRING THIS IN FOR A LANDING, I DON'T, I DON'T,
I DON'T WANT TO DELVE INTO THIS MUCH, MUCH MORE YOU KNOW, AS THE OUTCOME OF THIS ITEM,
I LIKE TO SEND THIS BACK TO COMMISSION WITH, WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS. LOOKING AT THE STRIPED AREAS THAT WE HAVE LOST FROM
PARKING AND REPURPOSING THEM AS, AS AS PARKING FOR. FOR BICYCLES. CREATING PREDICTABILITY BY MASTER PLANNING 
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BICYCLE PARKING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW EVERY BLOCK YOU. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO FIND ONE OF THESE SHOE RACKS SO THEY KNOW EVERY GARAGE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SOURCING HEAT MAPS FROM GOOGLE MAPS AND OTHER APPLICATIONS TO
DETERMINE WHERE IS THE USE, WHERE IS THE CONSUMER USING BICYCLES? WHERE ARE THEY STARTING AT? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO? AND LASTLY,
INTEGRATING WITH, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE, OKAY, NOW THAT WE'VE PROVIDED YOU WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE,
LET ME TELL, LET US TELL YOU, LET US TELL YOU THE SAME WAY THAT WE TELL YOU WHERE THE BLINK IS AT THE BLINK CHARGING
STATION, THE SAME WAY WE TELL YOU WHERE YOU CAN PARK YOUR CAR,
WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU IN THESE MAPS THAT YOU'RE ALREADY USING WHERE YOU CAN PARK YOUR YOUR BICYCLE? YES. COMMISSIONER SALINAS. I JUST HAVE ONE LAST COMMENT THAT I'M GOING TO
MAKE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE METAL STRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE,
THAT'S IN THE ITEM. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU DO PEOPLE LOCK UP AND STORE E-BIKES AT THAT STRUCTURE? OR IS THAT NOT A THING? BECAUSE I DON'T OWN AN E-BIKE. 
          AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE GET LOCKED UP PRETTY MUCH AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE,
YOU CAN LOCK YOUR BIKE. 
          IT'S THE SAME BICYCLE JUST WITH THE BATTERY. AND DO PEOPLE DO THAT OR DO THEY HAVE OTHER
MEANS OF LOCKING AN E-BIKE? SOME DO, BUT I SEE THEM LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE WORRIED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE STOLEN. 
          OKAY. ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE POINTED OUT TO ME RECENTLY THAT THAT REGULAR BICYCLES ARE,
ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE PEOPLE ARE USING THEM LESS BECAUSE THEY PURCHASE SOMETHING THAT CAN GO
BOTH FROM E-BIKE TO NON E-BIKE. 
          SO IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT THESE BIKE PARKING STATIONS,
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT TRADITIONAL BICYCLES WILL BE USED LESS AND LESS AS THE FUTURE MOVES ON. AND PEOPLE WANT TO GET A HYBRID MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND SO WHAT CAN BE, WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW,
TEN YEARS FROM NOW? WILL BICYCLES EVEN EXIST REALLY? OR WILL EVERYTHING BE AN E-BIKE THAT YOU CAN GO FROM TWO
DIFFERENT MODES? I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT,
WITH, WITH, WITH THIS ITEM, WE HAVE THESE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK WE COULD SEND BACK TO COMMISSION AS ACTION ITEMS PERHAPS AS ACTION ITEMS SPONSORED BY THIS
COMMITTEE BECAUSE I, UNLESS WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS TO COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ? DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? YOU'RE GOOD. 
          NO. I'M GOOD. THE THOUGHTS I HAD WERE SIMILAR TO THE VICE MAYOR WHERE IF IT'S NOT
UTILIZED, WE'D HAVE A HUGE STRUCTURE WITH NOT A LOT OF BIKES. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, CAN WE SEND THESE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO,
TO, TO COMMISSION BY ACCLAMATION? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, LET'S AND THIS TAKES US RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER SIX,
WHICH, WHICH, WHICH IS THE SAME ISSUE OF PREDICTABILITY. WE NEED TO CREATE THE PREDICTABILITY WHEN WE'RE
HAVING THESE LARGE SCALE EVENTS THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WHETHER YOU BE A TOURIST OR A RESIDENT,
THAT WE'VE MADE IT CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO GET TO YOUR EVENTS USING, USING MICROMOBILITY. NOW ADD THE DURING DURING THE PILOT PERIOD,
WHAT OCCURRED? I GUESS THERE WAS NOT HIGH USAGE. IF YOU IF YOU COULD GUIDE US THROUGH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. FRANCIS ISD, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURE,
AND I. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM. 
          THE PILOT PROGRAM WENT INTO EFFECT IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR UP UNTIL DECEMBER,
AND IT WAS MEANT FOR LARGE SCALE EVENTS, WHICH TYPICALLY HAVE MORE THAN 5000 ATTENDEES. 
          IT WAS MEANT TO HAVE FREE PARKING ON THE FOOTPRINT OF EVENTS. 
          AND SO WHAT THE PROGRAM INCLUDED WAS WAIVERS OF FEES SO THAT THESE EVENTS CAN ADD SPACE. 
          IT WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT SO FAR WAS THAT,
LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF UTILIZATION OF THE SPACES. 
          IT WAS NOT TO UNIFORM BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT EVENTS. 
          THEY WERE MOSTLY IN THE SPOIL AREA. THERE WAS MENTION OF CONCERNS OF LIABILITY BY THE
EVENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT THE, THE DEVICES. IT WAS WE DID NOT MAKE A DISTINCTION. 
          NOW THAT WE HEAR ALL THIS CONVERSATION BETWEEN TRADITIONAL BICYCLES AND E-BIKES,
E-BIKES WERE MEANT TO BE INCLUDED AND WE EVEN REVIEWED IT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR 
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STORAGE, WHAT THE EVENT WOULD NEED TO DO. BUT AS YOU MENTIONED,
THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF UTILIZATION. 
          LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DID TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT COLLABORATE WITH WITH OUR
TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK A POLICY THAT THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH THE,
WITH THE EVENTS AS HERE WE ARE, WE'RE TELLING EVENTS, OKAY, WE WANT YOU TO PROVIDE THESE BIKES, BICYCLE AND MICROMOBILITY DEVICE STORAGE IN
YOUR, IN YOUR EVENTS, BUT THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT LIKE,
LIKE GIVING THEM THE VISION FOR IT. 
          NO, IN TERMS OF MORE STRUCTURE WITH THE, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. 
          NO, WE FOCUSED MORE ON SAFETY AND LIABILITY ISSUES REGARDING THE EVENT,
WE DID CONSULT WITH THE PRODUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL MULTIPLE TIMES FROM BEFORE THE RESOLUTION PASSED TO AFTER TO GET FEEDBACK FROM EVENT PRODUCERS. 
          AND IN GENERAL, I THINK THE IDEA THAT THEY WERE MOSTLY SHARING THAT WAS THEY WERE HOPING
THAT WOULD COME OF THIS WAS MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURES. 
          SO HEARING THE CONVERSATION TODAY, I THINK IT LEADS TO AN OPPORTUNITY OF THAT BECAUSE IT
WOULD BE MORE OF PERMANENT STRUCTURES ALONG WITH MORE COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE EVENTS TYPICALLY WILL SAY, IF YOU'RE COMING TO OUR EVENT,
THESE ARE THE PARKING GARAGES THAT YOU CAN USE. 
          I THINK IT GOES HAND IN HAND. IF WE DO HAVE MORE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES THAT THE EVENTS COULD
DO THAT. 
          SO I, I LIKE FOR US TO COORDINATE PERHAPS TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT CAN SIT DOWN
AND WORK WITH WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON A POLICY, SEE ON A POLICY,
BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE DEPENDING WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THE EVENT IS HAD, YOU KNOW, IF THE IF THE EVENT IS RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE YOU
HAVE A LARGE, YOU KNOW, BICYCLE FACILITY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE IF WE'RE,
IF THE PUBLIC IS ALREADY PROVIDING IT, IF THE CITY IS ALREADY PROVIDING IT, YOU KNOW,
WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING THE EVENT THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, HOOPS AND HURDLES OF HAVING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL. 
          BUT BUT THERE'S TIMES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COMES TO MIND. 
          LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE BEACH, YOU HAVE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE ON THE BEACH AND,
AND I'LL USE I'LL USE SCOPE AND UNTITLED AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, PEOPLE WHO TAKE THEIR BICYCLE,
THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PARK AT A GARAGE, THEIR BICYCLE AND THEN WALK OVER. NO, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THEIR BICYCLE AS CLOSE
AS THEY CAN TO WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO CREATE THAT FRAMEWORK,
THAT THAT GREATER DIRECTION OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW BIG ARE THESE SPACES? ARE THEY MANNED? ARE THEY ARE ARE THEY NOT MANNED? AND SO, AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO WORK TOGETHER ON A POLICY,
BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE CAN REVIEW, THAT WE CAN VET SO THAT SO THAT WE GIVE THESE EVENT ORGANIZERS CLEAR,
CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WHAT THIS IS. 
          AND IT'S ALSO NOT JUST PROVIDING IT, BUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT EXISTS. 
          AND SO, SO JUST HOW I'M MENTIONING WITH, WITH OUR OTHER BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE,
YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE HEAT MAPS AND PUTTING IT ON GOOGLE MAPS AND APPLE MAPS WHERE THESE ARE
LOCATED, WELL, WITH SPECIAL EVENTS, MAKING SURE THAT IN THEIR,
IN THEIR PARKING PLANS OR WHEN THEY'RE PROMOTING TELLING PEOPLE WHERE TO PARK, THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE RIDING ON A BICYCLE,
THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN PARK. 
          IT MAKES ME THINK OF WHEN WE DID IT WITH ART BASEL THAT WE HAD,
I THINK IT WAS WITH ART BASEL. 
          AT ONE POINT WE HAD A BICYCLE BALLET FOR FOR ART BASEL. 
          WAS THAT THE EVENT? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? YES. A FEW YEARS AGO IT WAS A PILOT. I RECALL THAT IT WAS NOT VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          IT WAS NOT USED. THERE WAS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH PARKING. 
          THERE YOU GO. THE FEE. AND AND AND THAT'S PART OF THAT'S PART OF THE THING. 
          NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED TO PROMOTE IT. NUMBER TWO,
IT NEEDS TO BE CONVENIENTLY LOCATED. 
          BUT NUMBER THREE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A FEE. SO LET'S WORK ON A STRATEGY ON A ON A STRATEGY OF
THE GUIDELINES FOR THE EVENT OF, OF HOW TO DO THIS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO STAFF IT AND TO,
AND TO, TO, TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT IT. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS I GOT COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE THAT RODE THEIR BICYCLE TO
VIENNA. 
          THEY HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL EXHIBIT ON ON THE SAND. 
          THEY WANTED TO PARK THEIR BICYCLES. VIENNA DIDN'T PROVIDE THE STORAGE FACILITY. 
          AND WHEN AND THEN WHEN, WHEN WHEN ASKED. WELL,
IF I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD. 
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THE THRESHOLD THAT WE HAD WAS 5000. HOW DO THEY NOT I MEAN,
THAT FINE EXHIBIT ATTRACTS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. 
          AND SO AND SO MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK, YOU KNOW,
LOOK AT HOW THE, THE STRUCTURE IS HOW THE THRESHOLD IS STRUCTURED. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO LOWER THE THRESHOLD TO, YOU KNOW,
A DAILY A DAILY NUMBER OF ATTENDEES OR, YOU KNOW, 5000 IN THE AGGREGATE OF, OF THE TOTAL EVENT. 
          BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT HAD TO HAVE HAD ATTRACTED MORE THAN 5000 PEOPLE OVER,
OVER OVER THE PERIOD OF OF THE INSTALLATION. 
          SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. THE, THE,
THE THRESHOLD THAT TRIGGERS THE REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE FOR THIS BICYCLE STORAGE FACILITIES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND, AND WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT,
AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE SPACES THAT EVENTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. OKAY. VERY GOOD COLLEAGUES, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I WILL JUST SAY THAT YOU KNOW, THE WATER TAXI WORKED INCREDIBLY WELL AND THAT WAS SORT OF
AN UNPROVEN UNDERTAKING. 
          AND I THINK PART OF IT WAS THAT IT WAS SUPER WELL COMMUNICATED AND THAT IT WAS FREE. 
          AND SO I THINK THE SAME HAS TO APPLY HERE THAT IT'S,
YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONVENIENCE FACTOR. 
          GOD KNOWS TRAFFIC IS DISASTROUS DURING THAT WEEK. 
          AND SO THE MORE WE CAN DO TO TAKE CARS OFF THE ROAD AND TO MAKE IT EASIER. 
          AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE THRESHOLD BEING AN AGGREGATE,
NOT PER DAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S A MINOR BLIP FOR THE ORGANIZER. 
          IT'S A BIG IMPACT FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. 
          YEAH. AND IF WE NEED TO REDUCE FRANKLY, I MEAN,
ANY, ANY OF THESE LARGE EVENTS THAT ARE GETTING A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE REQUIRE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS FOR A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SPECIAL EVENT LIKE THAT, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND. 
          YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE 5000 PEOPLE,
IT'S CLEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVENTS LIKE THESE THAT DRAW THE ATTRACTION THAT WE WANT TO CREATE THIS,
THIS CONVENIENCE FOR. 
          UNDERSTOOD. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM FROM MY COLLEAGUES, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC SEEING NONE IN PERSON AND NONE IN ZOOM,
WE WILL CONTINUE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE THE ADMINISTRATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          [ DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ON THE WEST SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE AS PART OF AN UPCOMING FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (“FDOT”) RESURFACING, RESTORATION, AND REHABILITATION (“RRR”) PROJECT ON STATE ROAD (“SR”) A1A/COLLINS AVENUE FROM SR 907/63 STREET TO 75 STREET.]
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF A BICYCLE LANE ON THE WEST
SIDE OF COLLINS AVENUE AS PART OF AN UPCOMING FLORIDA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION, RESURFACING, RESTORATION AND REHABILITATION PROJECT ON STATE ROAD 81 COLLINS AVENUE FROM
STATE ROAD 907 63RD STREET TO 75TH STREET. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. TRANSPORTATION WILL BE PRESENTED. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU STEPHANIE. SO THIS ITEM IS,
IS, IS, IS EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING. HOW DO YOU BALANCE,
YOU KNOW, SAFETY, THE SAFETY OF THE BICYCLISTS WITH MOBILITY AVAILABILITY AND THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF BUSINESSES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SUFFER IF YOU TAKE AWAY PARKING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT WE ALL SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF OUR BICYCLE NETWORK. 
          DONE THE RIGHT WAY IN A VERY BALANCED WAY. AND SO WE NEED TO FIND HOW DO WE DO THAT
RESPONSIBLY TO IMPLEMENT IT IN THE MOST THOUGHTFUL WAY POSSIBLE THAT PROVIDES FOR CONNECTIVITY WITHOUT UNINTENTIONALLY HARMING THE VERY
BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA IN NORTH BEACH THAT REALLY MAKE NORTH BEACH SO VIBRANT AND SO SPECIAL. 
          AND SO. RIGHT NOW, THE FDOT PROJECT. JOSE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          WE TRIED. WE EXPLORED THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THIS THROUGH THE FDOT PROJECT. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T WORK. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE D.O.T. PROJECT IS CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF SCOPE AND BUDGET. 
          IT'S SIMPLY A A RESURFACING, MORE OF A RESURFACING PROJECT,
NOT A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 
          SO TO INCORPORATE A BICYCLE LANE ON COLLINS AVENUE FROM 63RD TO 75TH WOULD REQUIRE A
REDESIGN OF COLLINS AVENUE. REDESIGNING THE SIDEWALKS, THE TRAVEL LANES TO INCORPORATE A A BIKE LANE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, AS SUCH, FDOT SAID THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH US TO PROGRAM A FUTURE PROJECT
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE BIKE LANES. 
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AND IF YOU RECALL THE COMMISSION TOOK ACTION ON THIS ITEM AND PASSED A RESOLUTION
ENDORSING THE, THE FDOT RESURFACING PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS IS AS DESIGNED WITHOUT THE
BICYCLE LANE, BECAUSE THE BICYCLE LANE, BY THE WAY, WOULD HAVE ALSO ELIMINATED 75 PARKING ON STREET
PARKING SPACES. 
          IT WAS JUST TOO IMPACTFUL. SO I BELIEVE AT THE TIME WE HAD GIVEN DIRECTION FOR THERE TO BE
A. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. A COMMUNITY MEETING? YES. BE HOSTED JOINTLY BY THE CITY AND FDOT ON OPTION
NUMBER TWO. 
          IF YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH WHAT OPTION NUMBER TWO WAS AND WHAT FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE
RESIDENTS. 
          SURE. WELL COMMISSIONER THE, THE COMMUNITY MEETING HAS NOT OCCURRED YET. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FDOT. THEY I RECALL THAT IT WAS SCHEDULED AT ONE POINT,
BUT IT HAD TO BE POSTPONED BECAUSE OF AN UNFORESEEN SITUATION. AND SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RESCHEDULING THAT IT WOULD BE A
HYBRID MEETING DOT AND CITY STAFF WOULD BE IN PERSON. WE WANTED TO DO IT AT THE NORTH SHORE COMMUNITY CENTER TO PRESENT. 
          AND REALLY, FDOT WILL BE PRESENTING WHAT A BIKE LANE ON COLLINS AVENUE COULD POTENTIALLY
LOOK LIKE. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE NARROWING SIDEWALKS A BIT. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES OPTION TWO DIFFERENT. 
          THAT RATHER THAN TAKING AWAY THE PARKING SPACES,
WE'RE NOW ACCOMMODATING FOR THE THREE MODES YOU'RE PROVIDING BICYCLE, VEHICLE PARKING AND PEDESTRIANISM, BUT TAKING AWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK SIDEWALKS. 
          YEAH, SO EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. FDOT WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPING SOME CONCEPT
DRAWINGS TO SHOW AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP ONCE WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          BUT, BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS, I BELIEVE AT OUR FEBRUARY 2025 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
MEETING. 
          YEAH, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW. WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS MEETING WITH,
WITH FDOT. 
          WELL, WE'VE WE HAVE MET WITH FDOT, BUT THE PUBLIC COMMUNITY DEVELOPING THE,
THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS, WHAT THEY WANTED TO SHOW, IF I'M, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY,
WAS A ROLL PLOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WANTED TO LAY IT OUT LIKE OUT ON A, ON A LONG TABLE AS TO WHAT THE CORRIDOR WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND SO THEY, THAT DOES TAKE TIME FOR THEM TO DEVELOP THOSE THOSE CONCEPT DRAWINGS. 
          AND BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THIS AND HAVE THIS. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY WE DO NEED TO EXPEDITE THIS,
BECAUSE OPTION TWO IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF A FUTURE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT OF COLLINS AVENUE, BECAUSE IT INVOLVES CHANGES TO THE CURB,
TO THE GUTTER, TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF THE SIDEWALKS. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE WOULD DO A FUTURE
PROJECT OUT OF THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO, INTO,
INTO OUR FUNDING. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY, DO ANY FDOT, FDOT GRANTS EXIST? DOES THE TPO HAVE ANY DOLLARS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCES BESIDES OUR OWN,
AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE ALSO FACING POTENTIAL POTENTIAL CHANGES IN OUR IN OUR REVENUE SOURCES? AND SO AND SO WE NEED TO BE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T START, YOU KNOW, ONE THING. YES. IS, THE IS THE ENGINEER PLANNING OF THIS? YOU KNOW, THEM PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR PRELIMINARY DESIGNS AND THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES AND
ALL THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE COMPONENT OF IT. WE NEED TO BE ON A PARALLEL TRACK LOOKING AT AT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND AND ROUND, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES BICYCLE WHEELS GO ROUND AND
ROUND ON ON, ON, ON SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS MONEY, MONEY AND BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS INTO,
INTO, INTO MOTION. SO HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE TO GET THIS COMMUNITY
MEETING DONE? I WOULD SAY WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          WE NEED TO COORDINATE CLOSELY WITH FDOT. THEY NEED TO BE PRESENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY WOULD NEED TO BE AVAILABLE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF ADVANCE NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IS REALISTIC. 
          YES. JOSIE, IF THIS IS AN ART PROJECT, WOULDN'T FDOT BE FUNDING IT? WAS THAT JUST A PIPE DREAM? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR. 
          HOWEVER, UPON HAVING PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH FDOT ON THIS,
THEY WERE LOOKING AT MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP AND A JOINT PROJECT WHERE THE CITY WOULD PAY A PORTION AND THE D.O.T. WOULD PAY A PORTION,
BECAUSE THE NEED FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION IS BECAUSE OF THE BICYCLE LANE. 
          OKAY. NOW, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LONG TERM STRATEGY OF, 
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OF RECONSTRUCTING THIS, THIS BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN THE,
IN THE INTERIM PART OF THIS YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS, IS DOING THEIR RESURFACING AND RESTORATION AND REHABILITATION PROJECT,
BUT WHAT CAN WE DO? ARE THERE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CROSSWALKS THAT WE CAN MAKE TO MAKE CONDITIONS BETTER? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, ADDED SIGNAGE? CAN WE DO SHARROWS TO DO WE HAVE OR DO WE EVEN HAVE
SHARROWS RIGHT NOW? ALERTING. ALERTING DRIVERS TO SHARE THE ROAD WITH WITH BICYCLES. 
          WHAT CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEANTIME? WELL,
SHARROWS, AS YOU MENTIONED. 
          COMMISSIONER THAT THAT IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT IS MINIMUM STANDARD,
BUT DO WE HAVE THAT TODAY? IT WILL BE PART OF THE, THE PROJECT. YES. THE,
THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT WE ENDORSED THE RESURFACING PROJECT FROM 63RD TO 75TH. YES. YEAH. AND THAT, AND THAT'S THE ONE WHERE WE TRIED INITIALLY TO INCORPORATE THE, THE BICYCLE LANE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS,
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE 75 PARKING SPACES WE WERE GOING TO LOSE. 
          WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT AS PART OF OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SHOWERS. 
          WHAT IS THE DATE OF COMMENCEMENT FOR THAT PROJECT? SO SUMMER OF THIS YEAR. AND WE'LL WE'LL TRIPLE CHECK THAT. 
          OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, WITH THEM PLACING SHOWERS,
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAN FOR, FOR ANY SIGNAGE OR DOES FDOT COME IN AND PROVIDE THE SIGNAGE? THEY WILL PROVIDE IT. OKAY. 
          AND HOW ABOUT THE MOMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT SHOWER THERE IN THE SHORT TERM AND
HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY A SOME DAY WE'LL HAVE A TRUE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE FROM FROM 63RD TO 75TH. 
          WHAT ARE WE ARE WE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT THE EAST WEST CONNECTORS,
72ND STREET, 73RD STREET, 71ST STREET. WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF PLANNING TO TO START TO GET AHEAD OF IT. 
          SO VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO 72ND STREET HAS BICYCLE LANES ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 73RD STREET, WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF STARTING THE OF IMPLEMENTING THE BICYCLE LANE
ALONG 73RD. 
          PROBABLY WITHIN SUMMER AS WELL. WE'RE THINKING THE PROJECT HAS BEEN FULLY DESIGNED. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT OF A CONTRACTOR. 
          AND THAT WILL BE A GREEN BICYCLE LANE ON 73RD. 
          SO THAT'S TWO EAST WEST STREETS RIGHT THERE THAT WILL PROVIDE SOME,
SOME CONNECTIVITY. 
          NORTH BEACH IS VERY CHALLENGING, VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S,
IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST VERY CHALLENGING TO ELIMINATE ON STREET PARKING IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A BICYCLE LANE. 
          AND THE STREETS ARE SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT VERY SOME ARE NOT VERY WIDE. 
          SO THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ONE WEIGHING SOME STREETS,
FOR EXAMPLE, AND GAINING SOME AREA, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE OF A MASTER PLANNING EFFORT. 
          SO OUR OUR TRANSPORTATION UPDATED TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT I REFERRED TO BEFORE
WILL BE LOOKING AT NORTH BEACH AT AT THE GRID THERE AND SEEING WAYS OF ACCOMMODATING SOME BICYCLE FACILITIES IN THAT AREA. 
          I LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT JUST TIES INTO, I GUESS,
THE POINT THAT I WANT TO FINISH THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE STATE. 
          WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF,
OF, OF THE COUNTY, BUT WHAT EXACTLY FALLS UNDER OUR JURISDICTION? UNDER, UNDER OUR CONTROL, UNDER OUR PURVIEW AS,
AS A CITY. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THE NEXT MEETING,
THIS ITEM, MAYBE WE CAN BRING THIS UP IN 3 OR 4 MONTHS BECAUSE I WANT TO GIVE YOU TIME TO,
TO SCHEDULE THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT
COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE LIST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT,
YOU KNOW, GIVES US AN ITEMIZATION, A COMPLETE A COMPLETE LIST OF THE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS OF THE INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT WE CAN
PURSUE AS A CITY TO ENHANCE OUR LONG TERM GOAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THESE EARLIER PHASES BEFORE WE GOT THERE,
WE KNOW THAT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, EVEN EVEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPTION TWO,
YOU KNOW, VERY SUPERFICIALLY WITHOUT ANY DESIGNS, WE KNOW THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE UP TO $9 MILLION THAT WE HAVEN'T BUDGETED,
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN A DESIGN. 
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SO IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY VETTING AND BY THE
TIME WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THE FUNDING PROCESS AND ALL THAT, IT TAKES YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, THESE SHORT TERM WINS THAT WE CAN JOINTLY ACHIEVE I THINK
WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM, HAVE THEM ITEMIZED OUT AT OUR NEXT CONVERSATION ON THIS ITEM,
WHICH I THINK FOUR MONTHS. 
          DOES THAT GIVE YOU SUFFICIENT TIME TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND BRING IT BACK? YES,
YES. 
          OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER, TO YOUR POINT, JUST WANT TO MENTION WE HAD A,
A OR COMMISSIONER BOARD SPONSORED A TOWN HALL MEETING ON MICROMOBILITY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 
          AND AT THAT MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT SOME LOW HANGING FRUITS AND,
YOU KNOW, INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, ON THE PAVEMENT. 
          OH, THEY'RE GREAT. THE GREEN BOX YOU KNOW, THEY'RE,
THEY MAY NOT BE DEDICATED LANES FOR BICYCLE FOR BICYCLISTS, BUT THEY RAISE AWARENESS AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S,
AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          COMMISSIONER. BOARD HOW IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY TOURISTS THAT COME HERE FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. EVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE STARTED OFF TODAY,
YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW MOTORIZED E-BIKES IN PARKS OR NOT? YOU KNOW, MIAMI BEACH MAY HAVE ONE CULTURE. ANOTHER CITY SOMEWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES
MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT CULTURE. 
          AND IN EUROPE THEY MAY HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CULTURE. 
          BUT EDUCATING PEOPLE AND, AND EVEN, YOU KNOW,
SIMPLE SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LEAVING THE BEACH AND YOU'RE TELLING PEOPLE TO LOOK. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT OUR, THAT OUR SHARED USE PATH,
OUR, OUR BEACH WALK, HIGH USE OF, OF BICYCLES AND IT'S COMMON SENSE, BUT SOMETIMES COMMON SENSE IS NOT THAT COMMON. 
          YOU DO HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE TO LOOK OR TO STAY. 
          RIGHT? SO REALLY, IT'S BEEN A GREAT IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE JUST WITH THE DIVERSITY OF
CULTURES THAT WE HAVE COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR CITY, IT'S GOOD TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT VERY SIMPLE AND BASIC GUIDANCE. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I WILL ALSO ADD TO THAT,
IF I MAY, THAT LAST YEAR I SPOKE WITH COLLEAGUES IN THIS FIELD FROM PARIS WHO HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN TOTALLY RE PRIORITIZING BICYCLES AND MICROMOBILITY IN THAT CITY. 
          AND THEY USE COVID IN THE OLYMPICS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CHANGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND OTHER COLLEAGUES FROM THE NETHERLANDS AND DENMARK,
WHICH ALSO OBVIOUSLY HAVE SUPER STRONG BIKE CULTURES AND THEY ALL RAVED ABOUT MIAMI BEACH AND THE BEACH WALK AND OTHER INITIATIVES,
WHICH I THOUGHT WAS SORT OF AMUSING BECAUSE TO US, WE'RE FRUSTRATED THAT IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND NOT AS AS GOOD AS WE WANT IT TO BE. 
          AND THEY THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST CITIES TO RIDE IN,
IN, IN THE COUNTRY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HOLD IT UP AS A SHINING EXAMPLE. 
          I'M LIKE, OH, OKAY, WELL, WE NEED TO DO BETTER. 
          BUT IT IS IT'S GOOD TO COME OUT OF OUR, YOU KNOW,
LITTLE BUBBLE AND SEE HOW IT'S, HOW IT STACKS UP AGAINST OTHER PLACES. SO IT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE, BUT IT IS A LOT BETTER THAN IT COULD BE. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE MOST PART TO GET IT,
GET IT THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO PRIVILEGED BECAUSE WE DO GET ACCUSTOMED TO PARADISE. 
          WE BECOME DESENSITIZED TO IT. YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY IS PARADISE. 
          PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHEN THEY COME AND VISIT,
THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE GOTTEN USED TO AND ACCUSTOMED TO, AND IT'S OUR MINIMUM AND OUR EXPECTATION FOR THEM IS THE GREATEST AMENITY,
THE GREATEST FINISHED PRODUCT COMPARED TO WHAT THEY HAVE AT HOME. AND SOMETIMES HOME MIGHT BE JUST ACROSS THE BRIDGE HERE IN MIAMI DADE
COUNTY, OR SOMETIMES HOME MIGHT BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD WHERE WE THINK WHEN WE GO OVER
THERE THAT IT'S SO AMAZING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE REALLY WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARADISE TO,
TO YOUR POINT WE OFTENTIMES TAKE IT FOR GRANTED SOMETIMES THAT IS THE BEAUTIFUL THING OF BEING A DESTINATION THAT WE HAVE THESE VISITORS THAT COME HERE AND THAT REMIND US OF HOW
BEAUTIFUL THIS GREAT COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN IS. 
          SO, JOSE, THANK YOU FOR THIS. LET'S BRING THIS ITEM BACK. 
          IN, IN FOUR MONTHS. THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETING FROM FDOT AND A FULL LIST OF,
OF THE ITEMIZATION OF WHAT WE CAN DO AS SHORT TERM ENDS AS IT RELATES TO THIS IN THIS CORRIDOR. 
          OKAY. COLLEAGUES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE NEXT ITEMS SEVEN,
EIGHT, NINE, AND TEN. 
          BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO DO. CAN WE TAKE JUST A FIVE MINUTE BREAK JUST TO USE THE
RESTROOM, GET SOME COFFEE? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GOING AT IT SINCE SINCE 9 A.M. 
          CUBAN TIME. BECAUSE I DID GET HERE A LITTLE BIT LATE. 
          LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO TO TAKE THESE. 
          [02:05:07]
PLEASE STAND BY. WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN FIVE. 
          FOUR. THREE. TWO. ONE. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME BACK EVERYONE. 
          WE TOOK A RECESS. THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND RECOGNIZE
SARAH FROM FROM COMMISSIONER OFFICE, WHO WOULD BE REMISS TO LET THE DAY GO BY WITHOUT HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT YESTERDAY IT
WAS THE BIRTHDAY OF OUR DEAR COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER TANYA BOARD. AND SO SHE'S GOING TO LEAD US. 
          WHY DON'T WHY DON'T YOU LEAD OFF IN THE SINGING,
SARAH? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ENGLISH, AND THEN WE'LL DO IT IN SPANISH. OKAY. THERE YOU
GO. BIRTHDAY TO YOU. 
          HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND TO MANY MORE. AND TO MANY MORE. 
          THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. COMMISSIONER. 
          I KNOW, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU GOT TO SHARE THOSE BROWNIES WITH EVERYONE. AND AND AND
COMMISSIONER. 
          SINCE IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY, WE'RE GOING TO GRANT YOU YOUR BIRTHDAY WISH OF HAVING ITEM
NUMBER 13. 
          [ DISCUSS AND DEVELOP THE DETAILS OF A 12- MONTH NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM IN NORTH BEACH, WITH A TOTAL COST NOT TO EXCEED $100,000; AND FURTHER, REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION CRITERIA FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM]
IT WAS 12. ITEM NUMBER 12. CALLED. OKAY. FIRST. 
          YES. THANK YOU. AND I WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE,
THE GENTLEMEN WHO ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON IT ARE THE ONLY FOLKS WHO ARE HERE WHO ARE NOT ACTUALLY CITY STAFF. SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEM SIT THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING. 
          SO A HOT TOPIC FOR A LOT OF US IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WAYS TO DO IT WITHOUT DESTROYING
THE BUILDINGS THAT WE LOVE AND CARE ABOUT IN OUR CITY, AND WITHOUT HAVING OTHER PEOPLE FROM WITHOUT OUR CITY COMING IN AND FORCING
THEIR VIEWS ON US. 
          AND SO JASON AND HIS BUSINESS PARTNER HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR THEIR VISION ON HOW TO HELP
US DO THAT IN AN ORGANIC WAY. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEVEN ANTHONY FROM THE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
DEPARTMENT AND TO JASON. 
          AND I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED BY THE,
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE CRA WANTED TO START OFF WITH A $200,000 PILOT PROGRAM,
AND WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO START OFF A LITTLE SMALLER JUST TO WORK THE KINKS OUT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT JASON AND TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO,
IN OTHER FIELDS, BANKING AND DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO FINE TUNE THIS PROGRAM,
AND I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND AND START PROVING THE CONCEPT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL DEFER TO YOU. 
          FINE GENTLEMEN. NO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, AND AND GOOD MORNING. 
          IT'S STILL MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          CHAIR. CERTAINLY STEVEN ANTHONY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 
          AND SO EXCITED ABOUT THE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S IN FRONT OF US WITH THE THE,
THE NOAA PROGRAM. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NOAA PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. SO WHAT I,
WHAT I WANT, AND YOU'LL CERTAINLY SEE VARYING LEVELS OF SUCCESS WITH NATURAL OCCURRING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          BUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, THAT'S SPECIFIC AND THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT,
ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE TODAY IS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY IN TERMS OF. 
          AND TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE WITH THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS IS THAT USUALLY THERE'S SOME
TYPE OF REIMBURSABLE GRANT PROGRAM. THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, LANDLORD, YOU COME OVER HERE, WE'LL GIVE YOU A GRANT IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT GRANT TO
REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL PLACE SOME TYPE OF COVENANT ON THAT PROPERTY THAT KEEPS IT,
THAT KEEPS IT MITIGATED AT A CERTAIN PRICE LEVEL FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
WITH VARYING LEVELS OF SUCCESS AND CERTAIN ENGAGEMENT FROM LANDLORDS AND THEIR PARTICIPATION IN, IN THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT'S UNIQUE WITH THIS PROGRAM,
AND CERTAINLY JASON AND CORNUCOPIAN WILL, WILL GIVE SOME FURTHER DETAILS IS THAT THERE'S,
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE COLLABORATE ACROSS RESPECTIVE PARTNERS? SO HOW DO WE COLLABORATE WITH LANDLORDS? SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. 
          I THINK THE, THE ITEM ON THE SCREEN IS WRONG. 
          THERE WE GO. OH, YEAH. OH, THERE WE GO. SO HOW DO WE,
HOW DO WE COLLABORATE AGAINST RESPECTIVE PARTNERS AND BANKS AND LANDLORDS TO CREATE A PROGRAM THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SUCCINCT. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO IT HELPS WITH THE CITY'S. ANY TYPE OF CITY PARTICIPATION IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE, WITH THE NORTH BEACH CRA AND THE PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAVE AND MITIGATE SOME OF THE
THINGS IN PLACES, 
          [02:10:05]
SOME GUARDRAILS AND GUIDELINES AROUND HOW THE HOW CERTAIN FUNDS ARE USED. 
          IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED TO DRAW DOWN THE INTEREST RATE. 
          SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BUY DOWN THE INTEREST RATE FOR THOSE LOANS THAT THE LANDLORDS WOULD
GET FROM PARTICIPATING BANKS. 
          SO THAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE THEIR COSTS. AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT,
OF COURSE, THEY'RE THE LANDLORDS ARE AGREEING TO A COVENANT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL CERTAINLY PASS IT TO,
TO JASON SO HE CAN GIVE SOME FURTHER DETAILS ON, ON THEIR, THEIR, THEIR APPROACH TO NATIONAL NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ANTHONY. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          COMMISSIONERS. MR. CHAIR. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. COMMISSIONER. 
          BUT WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT I SENT IF IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO PUT IT ON THE
SCREEN. 
          SO AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS JASON BELLISARI. I'M CO-FOUNDER OF A STARTUP CALLED
CORNUCOPIAN, WHICH EXISTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF TODAY'S MOST CHALLENGING ISSUES IN HOUSING. 
          AND ALSO MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT. I LIVE ON 21ST STREET AT FLORIDA CITY. 
          WE DESIGNED A CAPITAL EFFICIENT AND SCALABLE PROGRAM TO PRESERVE NATURALLY OCCURRING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR NOAH FOR SHORT THROUGH LOW INTEREST, LONG TERM RENOVATION FINANCING THAT MULTIPLIES PUBLIC DOLLARS BY 3 TO 5 TIMES. 
          SO ONCE WE GET THE PRESENTATION UP THE MAIN PIECE IS THE PROBLEM ASPECT,
WHICH IS ON SLIDE TWO. 
          PJ DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE LINK? THEY EMAILED IT FIVE MINUTES AGO. 
          ONE MOMENT. IT'S LESS IMPORTANT VISUALLY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY AND TIME. 
          THE KEY ISSUES THAT MIAMI BEACH IS LOSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FASTER THAN WE CAN BUILD IT,
RIGHT? SO ONE NEW CONSTRUCTION CITY ASSISTED PROJECT MADE IT THROUGH IN THE LAST DECADE,
WHICH WAS THE NMR WAS 80 UNITS, ABOUT $10 MILLION IN CITY SUBSIDY. AND IT TOOK FROM SEVEN YEARS FROM CONCEPT TO KEYS. 
          A SAMPLE OF JUST THREE BUILDINGS. WE LOST 700 EUCLID,
6881 INDIAN CREEK AND 1619 LENOX AVENUE WERE ENOUGH TO ERASE THE GAINS OF THE NMR. BEFORE THEY WERE EVEN COUNTED, 108 UNITS WERE LOST BETWEEN THESE. 
          JUST THESE THREE PROJECTS IN 2021 AND 22, PUTTING US AT A NET CHANGE OF -28 UNITS. 
          I MUST EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A SMALL SAMPLE,
NOT A FULL AUDIT OF ALL THE BUILDINGS LOST OVER THE YEARS TO DETERIORATION, ABANDONMENT OR CONVERSION TO MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSING. 
          A TENANT AT 6881 INDIAN CREEK. THIS IS SLIDE TWO. 
          A TENANT AT 6881 INDIAN CREEK TOLD THE NEWS CREW THAT HIS RENT WAS $800 AND HE LOVED
LIVING THERE. 
          IN THE VIDEO, SOME PEOPLE HAD TO END UP ACTUALLY GOING TO SHELTERS. 
          THAT BUILDING NO LONGER EXISTS AND IS BEING REPLACED BY LUXURY TOWNHOMES. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY AGING BUILDING HITS THE SAME FORK IN THE ROAD. 
          YOU EITHER RENOVATE AND RAISE RENTS, OR YOU MAINTAIN RENTS AND WATCH THE BUILDING
DETERIORATE AS EXPENSIVE AS EXPENSES CREEP UP. 
          AND WE'RE OFFERING DOOR NUMBER THREE. SO SLIDE THREE. 
          HOW DOES IT WORK? AN OWNER OF A SUB 50 UNIT UNSUBSIDIZED APARTMENT BUILDING APPLIES
THROUGH NOAA LOAN.COM. 
          AN INDEPENDENT BANK MAKES THAT CREDIT DECISION. 
          AND THE CITY BUYS DOWN THE RATE FOR MARKET INTEREST RATE TO BELOW 3%. 
          A VOLUNTARY AFFORDABILITY COVENANT IS RECORDED FOR 10 TO 20 YEARS,
WHICH SURVIVES SALE. 
          AND FINALLY, WE VERIFY ONGOING COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE BANK TERM OR THROUGHOUT THE
THROUGHOUT THE TERM. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHY A LANDLORD WOULD DO THIS. 
          ON THE REVENUE SIDE. THEY'LL PICK UP THEY'LL PICK A RENT CEILING AS A PERCENTAGE ABOVE
THEIR CURRENT RENTS, WITH ROOM FOR RENT GROWTH WITHIN LIMITS, AND THEY'LL HAVE MORE STABLE TENANTS,
MEANING LESS VACANCY TURNOVER AND LEASING COSTS. 
          ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, YOU HAVE A LONG TERM, FULLY AMORTIZING LOAN AT THE LOWEST RATE ON THE
MARKET, WITH NO BALLOON PAYMENT, MEANING NO REFINANCE RISK. 
          THE ALTERNATIVE IS SHORTER TERM DEBT AT A HIGHER RATE THAT BARELY TOUCHES THE PRINCIPAL. 
          YOU REFINANCE EVERY TIME YOU SORT OF LIKE A 5 OR 7 YEAR TERM,
NEARLY THE SAME BALANCE, PAYING INTEREST AND MONEY YOU NEVER REALLY PAY DOWN UNTIL YOU EVENTUALLY SELL TO A NEW OWNER WITH NEW GOALS FOR THEIR HOLD PERIOD. 
          THE COVENANTS WILL BE THE PRICE OF THE BEST RENOVATION FINANCING ON THE MARKET. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE PILOT STRUCTURE. WE'RE LOOKING AT $100,000 IN RATE BUY DOWNS FROM
THE NORTH BEACH CRA, WHICH MOBILIZES 3 TO $500,000 IN PRIVATE LENDING. 
          AND OUR GOAL IS TO PRESERVE 10 TO 15 UNITS OVER 12 MONTHS IN NORTH BEACH,
WORKING WITH BUILDINGS AT OR BELOW 120% OF AMI. 
          IT'S A FIXED AMOUNT, A FIXED GEOGRAPHY, FIXED TIMELINE,
AND IF NOBODY SIGNS UP, THE MONEY GOES BACK TO THE CITY. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY UNITS. YOU MEAN BUILDINGS? NOT IN. 
          NOT INDIVIDUAL APARTMENTS WITHIN THE BUILDING. OKAY. 
          APARTMENT BUILDINGS. YES. SO IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO A LANDLORD THAT OWNS THE BUILDING. 
          CORRECT. IT'S DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO PLAN ON OWNING FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS. 
          RIGHT. NOT FIXED. AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE EQUITY,
REAL ESTATE, PRIVATE EQUITY BUYERS THAT ARE GOING TO HOLD FOR 3 TO 5 YEARS. 
          [02:15:03]
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. REGARDING CITY OVERSIGHT,
CITY HAS FULL VISIBILITY INTO PROGRAM RECORDS, RECEIVE QUARTERLY UPDATES AND REAL TIME DASHBOARD ACCESS FROM THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO DO,
WHICH IS TO BUILD INTERNAL CAPACITY TO ORIGINATE LOANS, MANAGE CONTRACTORS, HIRE EXTRA STAFF AND BUILD SYSTEMS,
AND MORE. 
          THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WOULD RUN OPERATIONS AND CITY HOLDS THE ADMINISTRATOR
ACCOUNTABLE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. REGARDING RISK MITIGATION,
BANKS UNDERWRITE EACH LOAN INDEPENDENTLY. 
          COVENANTS ARE RECORDED AS SEPARATE STANDALONE INSTRUMENTS AND SURVIVE SALE AND
FORECLOSURE. 
          CONTRACTORS ARE PRE-VETTED SCOPE OF WORK IS LOCKED IN BEFORE CLOSING,
AND BANKS ONLY RELEASE FUNDS AFTER INSPECTION. 
          LASTLY, PROGRAM FUNDS WOULD BE. SIT IN A DESIGNATED ACCOUNT TO BE DISBURSED TO THE BANK
UPON RECEIPT OF AFFORDABILITY, COVENANTS AND LOAN CLOSING DOCS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          WE'RE ALMOST THERE. THIS IS READY TO LAUNCH TODAY. 
          THIS IS NOT A PROMISE. THIS IS WE PURPOSE BUILT TECHNOLOGY FOR THIS THAT'S LIVE TODAY. 
          APPLICATION INTAKE DEAL PIPELINES, COMPLIANCE MONITORING,
AUDIT TRAILS READ ONLY CITY DASHBOARD AND MUCH MORE. 
          THEY'RE ALL OPERATIONAL ON NOAA LOAN.COM AND ADMIN.NOAA.COM. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE PENULTIMATE SLIDE,
THE MILESTONES ARE PRE-LAUNCH. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON PIPELINE BUILDING AND OUTREACH TO SMALL PILOT. 
          SO WE'RE TARGETING FIRST PROPERTIES BEING SIGNED WITHIN THE FIRST 60 TO 90 DAYS. 
          OUR QUARTERLY KPIS WILL BE UNITS PRESERVED, DOLLARS DEPLOYED COMPLIANCE RATE AND COST PER
UNIT, AND A MONTH 12, WE WILL HAVE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PILOT,
AND THE CITY WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM. 
          AND LASTLY, THE ASK HERE IS THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH A 12 MONTH NOAA LOAN PILOT IN NORTH BEACH. 
          I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME LISTENING TO MY SPIEL. WE KNOW THAT STAFF HAS BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US STRUCTURE THIS THUS FAR, SO WE WANTED TO THANK THEM AS WELL. AND WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER SALINAS THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. DOCTOR TERRY. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A RESIDENT AND YOUR,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELP US WITH,
YOU KNOW, AND THE FACT THAT YOUR RESIDENT IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN MIAMI BEACH. 
          SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE AN ALUMNI OF THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROGRAM THROUGH UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. 
          SO KUDOS. DOCTOR TERRY, COULD YOU TELL ME AND I UNDERSTAND JASON WRIGHT,
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. BUT YOU'VE ALSO MET WITH DOCTOR TERRY AND THE. 
          SO WE HAD A MEETING IN NOVEMBER WITH COMMISSIONER BOARD,
JASON GREEN AND AND RICK FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          AND SO JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU HAVE YOU ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE SOME BUILDINGS
AND REACHED OUT TO, OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR THE FUNDING TO BE APPROVED IN ORDER TO. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF TWOFOLD, RIGHT? SO WE, THROUGH OUR NETWORK HAVE REACHED OUT TO,
TO OWNERS, I THINK MORE MORE SUCCINCTLY, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE OWNER OUTREACH GENERALLY IN MIAMI BEACH TO SPEAK TO OWNERS WHO,
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SORT OF IN TOTALITY, HUNDREDS OF THESE UNITS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR REALITY OF
OWNERSHIP. 
          WITH REGARD TO NORTH BEACH SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE DONE RESEARCH INTO THE AREA. THERE'S AROUND
156 BUILDINGS TOTALING 2200 UNITS THAT ARE THAT, THAT SORT OF QUALIFY AS YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPICALLY IS KNOWN,
LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILT BEFORE 1996, SO 30 YEARS OR OLDER SUB 50 UNITS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW MANY UNITS EXIST TODAY IN
THAT AREA, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE NORTH BEACH AREA BOUNDS. 
          BUT YES, LIKE WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PENDING A FULL PROGRAM TO MARSHAL RESOURCES
FOR DIRECT. 
          SO YOU HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT, YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED BUILDINGS AND HAVE THEY HAVE SHOWN
INTEREST. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, LOOK, IN NORTH BEACH, I'VE, AN OWNER WHO HAS SEVEN BUILDINGS IN THE AREA,
RIGHT? THREE LIKE MULTIPLE OF WHICH ARE IN THIS SPECIFIC CRA BOUNDARY. 
          SOME LIKE LITERALLY A STREET OUTSIDE. BUT LIKE,
YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY SOPHISTICATED OWNER YOU KNOW, SEES A LOT OF VALUE EVEN ON THE CONSTRUCTION,
ON THE RENOVATION SIDE. HE PERSONALLY NEEDS NO HELP, BUT HE SEES A LOT OF VALUE IN SORT OF THAT, THAT THAT,
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND MANAGING CONSTRUCTION ON FRIDAY AT LUNCH WITH A DEVELOPER, A VERY PROMINENT ONE THAT I CAN NAME AT A LATER TIME THAT WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO BUY A
BUILDING IN NORTH BEACH JUST FOR THE PILOT. 
          SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, LOOK, I THINK THE MAIN TAKEAWAY ON,
ON THE BENEFIT FOR THE LANDLORDS IS THAT THE LOAN STRUCTURE ITSELF, LIKE BEING VERY LONG TERM, FULLY AMORTIZING. WHEN YOU COMPARE THE SORT OF INTEREST
PAYMENTS OVER THE LIFE OF THE LOAN RELATIVE TO IF YOU GO DOWN THE TREADMILL OF REFINANCING EVERY TIME YOU'RE FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS COMES UP. THE INTEREST EXPENSE IS LIKE ABSURD,
RIGHT? AND SO YOU BASICALLY DO NOT BUILD EQUITY IN YOUR PROPERTY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ARGUMENT HERE IS, IS THAT,
YES, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO YOUR SORT OF PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT, BUT THERE ARE MASSIVE BENEFITS TO YOUR BALANCE SHEET. 
          [02:20:03]
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING,
IS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE $100,000 IS GOING TO A PROPERTY OWNER AND A LANDLORD OR OWNER WHO NEED IT, AND WHO, WITHOUT THAT 100,000 OR WITHOUT YOUR ASSISTANCE,
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE ON SOME OF THE ROLES THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HELP THEM WITH. YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO END UP EITHER BEING SOLD AT SOME
POINT BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T MANAGE IT OR THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER, ALTHOUGH WELL MEANING YOU KNOW,
WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF USE THAT, THAT ALLOCATION. SO I JUST AGAIN, WANT TO, YOU KNOW,
CAUTION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE USING THE FUNDS APPROPRIATELY. 
          AND THEN DOCTOR TERRY, WILL YOU BE WILL WILL THE IT'S NATURALLY OCCURRING OCCURRING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE A CURRENT COVENANT ON THE BUILDING AND DO THEY USE CASE WORKERS TO
MONITOR THE AM I AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE OR. YEAH. SO SO NOAH IS THE MOST AT RISK BECAUSE IT IS UNSUBSIDIZED TODAY,
RIGHT? RENTS ARE OKAY. AND YOU'LL KEEP IT UNSUBSIDIZED THEN? WELL, THIS IS INTRODUCING A SUBSIDY, WHICH IS THE COVENANT. 
          YEAH. WHICH IS THE RATE BUY DOWN. SUBSIDY IS THE RATE BY DOWN. SURE. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THE COVENANT THEN ARE YOU GOING TO THEN PUT,
YOU KNOW, STANDARDS ON THE OCCUPANCY THAT FOLKS NEED TO BE A CERTAIN AM I SO OR IS IT JUST THE COVENANT, JUST THE COVENANT ON THE RENTS OF THE BUILDING ITSELF? I THINK
OPERATIONALLY, ONCE YOU START TO INTRODUCE YOU KNOW, SORT OF INCOME RESTRICTIONS ON SPECIFIC TENANTS,
RIGHT? THEN YOU INTRODUCE AN AVENUE OF ATTACK OF LIKE FRAUD,
RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, VET THEIR SOURCES OF INCOME, ETC.. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THE BETTER THING,
AND SORT OF THE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD THING IS TO VET THE RENTS THEMSELVES. 
          SO THEN HOW DO YOU PUT THOSE CONTROLS ON? I UNDERSTAND,
YOU KNOW, BUT HOW DO YOU ENSURE ARE YOU JUST GOING BASED ON MARKET RATE? AND YOU'RE ASKING THE LANDLORDS TO SIGN A COVENANT FOR HOW MANY YEARS? SO SO IT'S 10 TO 20 YEARS. AND CONTRARY TO TYPICAL AFFORDABLE PROGRAMS,
RIGHT, WHERE THEY SAY, LET'S SAY I'M GOING TO USE 68, 81 INDIAN CREEK AS AN EXAMPLE,
RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T EXIST, RIGHT? BUT AT THE TIME WHEN RENTS WERE LIKE $800 AND I'M GOING OFF OF
THE NEWS, RIGHT? THAT IS 34% OF AM I RIGHT? RIGHT. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO SAY A PROGRAM IS CAPPED AT
80% OF AM I RIGHT? TECHNICALLY, THAT GUY COULD GO FROM $8800 TO $1800 AND BE WITHIN THE LIMITS. 
          RIGHT. HERE WE ARE ANCHORING TO THEIR CURRENT TRENDS,
RIGHT? AND ALLOWING THEM TO SET A CUSHION THAT HELPS THEM AND THEIR OWNERSHIP SORT OF EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO MOSTLY HELPS THE BANKS. RIGHT, FEEL COMFORTABLE UNDERWRITING THIS. 
          BUT YES, THEIR RESTRICTION WILL BE BASED ANCHORED TO THEIR CURRENT RENT,
RIGHT? LESS SO ON JUST THE OVERALL PROGRAM CEILING THAT THEN JUST ALLOWS THEM TO,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY THEN YES, IT'S AFFORDABLE, BUT IT'S LIKE, IS IT RIGHT? BECAUSE WELL,
RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW,
RESTRICTIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT THE $100,000 TO GO TO GOOD USE,
RIGHTFULLY SO. 
          BUT THEN THE LANDLORD SAYS, WELL, NOW THIS HAS INCREASED THE VALUE. 
          SO I'M JUST GOING TO INCREASE THE RENTS, WHICH,
YOU KNOW, WITH A COVENANT. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD TRIGGER ACCELERATION. PLUS LIKE ANY ANY TEETH WE PUT ON IT AND IT'S ONLY
TEN YEARS, 10 TO 20 YEARS. AND THE WAY WE SO WE'RE BIG ON INCENTIVES,
RIGHT? AND SO, SO THE, BASICALLY THE WAY IT'S SIZED IS THAT THAT WILL SET SOME BOUNDARIES OF LIKE
20,000 PER UNIT, UP TO 50,000. THE LONGER TERM YOU SIGN UP FOR THE MORE MONEY YOU HAVE ACCESS TO. 
          AND THEN ALSO, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE YOUR RENT CUSHION,
THAT AFFECTS YOUR INTEREST RATE, RIGHT? AND SO THERE IS A DIRECT DISINCENTIVE TO,
YOU KNOW, SORT OF APPLY FOR TEN YEARS AT A, AT A HIGHER RENT, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO GET THEM ANY BENEFITS OUT OF THIS.
OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW,
I, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT TEST OF WHETHER MIAMI BEACH CAN PRESERVE AFFORDABILITY. 
          IN A, IN A WAY THAT'S THAT'S SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE AS YOU WELL MENTIONED,
WE ARE ALREADY A BUILT OUT ENVIRONMENT AND RELYING SOLELY ON NEW HOUSING TO SOLVE THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. IT'S UNREALISTIC. 
          SO UNLESS WE FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING HOUSING THEN UNLESS WE FIND A WAY TO
PRESERVE THE NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF WE DON'T FIND THAT THEN WE SHOULD REALLY THROW OUT ALL OF OUR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING GOALS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY REALISTIC. SO OBVIOUSLY THE QUESTION ALWAYS BECOMES YOU KNOW,
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PRESERVE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE? SO JUST, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE IN A, IN A HIGH COST MARKET LIKE OURS,
WHERE, WHERE INSURANCE IS HIGH OPERATING COSTS CAN BE HIGH AS WELL AND CONTINUE TO RISE,
HOW ARE WE ENSURING THAT THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY IS ATTRACTIVE TO PROPERTY 
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OWNERS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS LOOK GOOD. 
          IT LOOKS REAL. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS SUBSTANTIVE. 
          BUT, BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOUR INSURANCE CONTINUES TO INFLATE AND YOUR OPERATING COST
CONTINUES TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ONLY GOOD ON PAPER,
BUT IT'S GOOD REALISTICALLY FOR, FOR, FOR THE USER. YEAH. SO I WANT TO SORT OF DRAW ATTENTION TO THE MEMO THAT WE SHARED IN
THAT WE POSED A QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RIGHT AROUND THE CONCEPT OF A TARGETED PASS THROUGH. 
          RIGHT. WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DO NOT ALLOW FOR A,
A PASS THROUGH FOR NON-CONTROLLABLE EXPENSES WITHIN REASON, RIGHT? FOCUSING ON PROPERTY TAXES AND, AND INSURANCE,
YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY ASKING A PROPERTY OWNER TO BECOME A BETTER, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEATHER IN TEN YEARS, RIGHT? AND WHERE WILL INSURANCE RATES GO? AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN SUFFER, YOU KNOW,
QUITE, QUITE YOU KNOW, IN A PRETTY NEGATIVE WAY. 
          LIKE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PASS THROUGH TO THE TENANTS CERTAIN INCREASES THAT THEY ENCOUNTER. 
          YEAH. THERE ARE A FEW CAVEATS THERE, RIGHT. SO,
SO NUMBER ONE, ON PROPERTY TAXES, YOU MUST YOU KNOW, YOU MUST SHOW INTENT THAT YOU APPEAL YOUR PROPERTY TAXES,
YOU MADE BEST EFFORTS, RIGHT? AND THEN ON THE INSURANCE SIDE, YOU WILL HAVE HAVE TO SHOP RATES AS WELL AND SHOW THAT YOU
TRULY MADE AN EFFORT TO SHOW THAT THIS INCREASE ON INSURANCE IS THE, YOU KNOW, IS THE REALITY OF YOUR SITUATION. AND THEN CAVEAT AS WELL IS THAT WE SPOKE WITH
A LANDLORD IN SOUTH BEACH WHO OWNS LIKE 300 OF THESE UNITS. 
          AND HE MADE A POINT THAT IT IS THE MARKET WON'T ALLOW IN A LOT OF WAYS FOR YOU TO PASS
THROUGH THAT COST, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A NATURAL BUFFER AGAINST IT. 
          HOWEVER, YOU DO NEED A RELEASE VALVE IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          AND GENERALLY LANDLORDS WILL NOT WANT TO TEST SORT OF,
YOU KNOW, TENANTS RESOLVE TO, TO LEAVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE TURN COSTS SOMETIMES ARE A LOT HIGHER THAN,
THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLY PASSING THIS COST ON. 
          RIGHT. YOU'D RATHER YOU'D RATHER EAT THE COST YOURSELF THAN,
THAN PASS IT ON. 
          RIGHT. BECAUSE AN EMPTY UNIT IS GOING TO HURT YOU WAY WORSE THAN ANY THAN ANY INCREASE IN
PROPERTY TAXES OR INSURANCE. 
          BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT WITHOUT THAT RELEASE VALVE THIS BECOMES UNTENABLE FOR PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO BECOME A VETERAN WHERE THIS WILL GO IN 10 TO 20 YEARS. 
          RIGHT? SO AND LET ME ASK YOU THE RENT COVENANTS THERE POTENTIALLY 10 TO 20 YEARS. 
          YES, 10 TO 20 YEARS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          YEAH. 10 TO 20 YEARS. 10 TO 20 YEARS. HOW ARE WE ACCOUNTING FOR YOU KNOW,
HOW THEY NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN GROWTH. IF NOT, THEY'RE GOING TO OPT OUT OF,
OF, OF THE PROGRAM. 
          YEAH. SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE FORMULA FOR THAT? SO THE WAY IT WOULD WORK IS LET'S SAY YOUR RENTS ARE $1,500. 
          RIGHT. TYPICALLY IF, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE,
IN ANOTHER SORT OF PROGRAM, IF YOU WERE TO JUST SAY YOU'RE AT 80% OF AMI, RIGHT? AND YOUR CAP IS 120% OF AMI, WHEN YOU FRAME THAT SORT OF FOR A LANDLORD,
THEN THEY SAY, OH, LET ME SET MY CAP AT 90, 100% OF AMI. BUT IN REALITY,
THAT'S PRETTY FAR OFF FROM WHAT THE MARKET WOULD ALLOW, RIGHT? AND SO LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, LET'S SAY YOUR RENTS ARE AT 1500 TODAY,
RIGHT? YOU WANT TO SET A CUSHION OF, LET'S SAY 5% RIGHT ABOVE YOUR CURRENT RENTS. 
          THAT IS YOUR STARTING CEILING THEN ON YOU WOULD GROW. 
          AM I RIGHT? AM I HISTORICALLY PAST 30 YEARS IN MIAMI,
DADE COUNTY HAS GROWN AT 3% PER YEAR. 
          RIGHT. SO YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO RENT GROWTH. 
          BUT IT IS IT IS AT A, YOU KNOW TYPICALLY AT A LOWER CLIP THAN INFLATION OR WHAT WE'VE SEEN
SORT OF IN THE GENERAL PRIVATE MARKETS. 
          AND SO, AND LASTLY, SINCE THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM,
YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF, OF THE PILOT PROGRAM? HOW DO WE, HOW, HOW,
HOW DO WE MEASURE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT? IS IT THE NUMBER OF UNITS PRESERVED? ARE WE TRACKING PARTICIPATION RATES,
FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, LIKE WHAT IS WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THE PILOT? SUCCESS IS TO ME IS SPEED AND LEVERAGE, RIGHT? IF WE YOU KNOW, DEPLOY DOLLARS IN WEEKS, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF YOU KNOW, MONTHS OR YEARS, TO ME,
THAT'S SUCCESS. 
          IF WE SHOWCASE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PRESERVE, FOR INSTANCE,
THE NMR AS AN EXAMPLE, WAS $125,000 PER UNIT AND CITY SUBSIDY. 
          IF WE BRING A UNIT ONLINE THROUGH PRESERVATION FOR A FRACTION OF THAT,
RIGHT. 
          AND WE SHOW THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WENT INTO THIS PROGRAM,
WE MOBILIZED 3 TO 5 X PRIVATE DOLLARS, RIGHT? THE HIGHER THAT NUMBER IS THAT THAT TO ME LOOKS LIKE SUCCESS AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. IF I MAY. COMMISSIONER AND THEN COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS KNOCKING ON DOORS IN NORTH BEACH THERE WERE WHAT USED TO BE NATURALLY
AFFORDING AFFORDABLE AND NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAD BEEN DEFINITELY GUSSIED UP. AND YOU KNOW,
A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE I SPOKE TO IN SOME OF THOSE UNITS SAID, YOU KNOW, I STILL LIVE HERE, BUT MOST OF MY,
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LEFT BECAUSE THE OWNER HAS OWNERSHIP HAS CHANGED AND THEY'VE REALLY 
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INCREASED THE RENTS. AND YEAH, THEY'VE MADE SOME UPGRADES. BUT NOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
LIVING HERE CAN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE. 
          SO IT'S NOT THE SAME KIND OF NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND I THINK THE SUCCESS BECOMES THAT THE INVENTORY STOCK IS UPGRADED. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT BETTER WINDOWS, AIR CONDITIONING THAT WORKS RELIABLY,
NEW ROOFS, YOU KNOW, SAFER STAIRWELLS, YOU KNOW, SPALLING REPAIRS WITHOUT DISPLACING THE RESIDENTS. 
          AND WITHOUT THE OWNERS GIVING UP AND SELLING TO DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES WHO WANT TO EITHER
KNOCK THEM DOWN AND BUILD SOMETHING NEW COMPLETELY OR, YOU KNOW, REVISE THEM, REVITALIZE THEM SO MUCH THAT THEY NO LONGER SERVE THE RESIDENTS
WHO, WHO WORK THERE. TO ME, IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING THAT JASON HAS SAID THE SIGN OF SUCCESS
IN NORTH BEACH IS THAT IT WORKS SO WELL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS IN FLAMINGO PARK AS WELL, WHERE WE HAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COLLECTION. 
          YOU KNOW, NORTH BEACH IS UNEVEN. WE HAVE SOME AMAZING,
BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS AND WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING GREAT, EXCEPT THERE ARE PEOPLE'S HOMES,
SO THEY'RE WONDERFUL. 
          BUT IN FLAMINGO, IN FLAMINGO PARK. WE HAVE SO MANY REALLY BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS THAT NEED
THAT KIND OF HELP. 
          THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, A WHOLESALE ZONING CHANGE TO,
TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, FOR MY PART, I WANT TO SEE THIS PROGRAM TESTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT
IF THERE ARE TWEAKS THAT ARE NEEDED, WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT IN, IN REAL TIME. AND,
YOU KNOW, START USING THIS AND IDEALLY BECOME A MODEL FOR OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE DO THAT ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROVIDE VERY MUCH NECESSARY
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT CEDING CONTROL OF THEIR CITY TO BIG TIME DEVELOPERS. 
          WELL, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS,
ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT IT'S NOT ASKING THE CITY TO TAKE ON AN OUTSIZED FINANCIAL BURDEN. YOU'RE GETTING A VERY MODEST, VERY, VERY,
VERY MODEST PUBLIC INVESTMENT. 
          AND YOU'RE LEVERAGING IT TO UNLOCK THE THE PRIVATE CAPITAL THAT YOU NEED AND STABILIZE
EXISTING UNITS. 
          I MEAN THAT TO ME, THIS IS SUCH A GREAT, GREAT A WIN WIN. 
          SHOULD IT. SHOULD IT PASS. IT'S JUST IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE A SUSTAINABLE MODEL. 
          WHEN WE MET, I ASKED YOU GUYS. WELL, HOW DO WE HOW CAN WE TRANSFER THIS FOR NATURALLY
OCCURRING INDIVIDUAL UNITS NATURALLY OCCURRING. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INDIVIDUAL UNITS. WHEN YOU INDIVIDUALLY OWN A UNIT OR YOU'RE AN
INDIVIDUAL LANDLORD OF AN INDIVIDUAL UNIT WHERE YOU HAVE A, FOR AFFORDABLE RENTS. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW,
YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING THERE IS THE MECHANISMS ARE NOT ALL THERE YET. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THE BULK. I THINK WE HAVE A BULK OF PEOPLE WHO RELY ON
NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT DO LIVE IN THESE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE OWNED BY BY LARGE LANDLORDS. 
          AND I CAN THINK OF MULTIPLE HERE, HERE IN OUR CITY. 
          AND, AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT ALSO AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THAT IS THAT IT ADVANCES OUR GOALS FOR PRESERVATION AS WELL. 
          AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT HERE,
WE GET TO PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT WHEN WE KNOW THAT THAT INVESTMENT IN PRESERVATION IS NOT ALWAYS CHEAP. 
          AND AT TIMES IT'S EXPENSIVE AND IT COMES AT THE LOSS OF THE AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING. 
          COMMISSIONER SUAREZ THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO IN A NUTSHELL, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THE THE REQUEST IS TO TAKE PUBLIC FUNDS AND TO
GIVE TO MULTI-UNIT LANDLORDS. TO DO WHAT EXACTLY? TO PERFORM RENOVATIONS ON THEIR BUILDINGS TO
ADDRESS THE CORRECTION. THE FUNDS WOULD ACTUALLY BE USED. 
          THEY WOULD BE SET INTO A CREDIT ENHANCEMENT POOL,
THAT MONEY WOULD ACTUALLY GO TOWARDS THE BANK TO ACTUALLY DRAW DOWN THE INTEREST RATES. 
          THE BANKS WOULD LEND THE CAPITAL OUT TO THE RESPECTIVE LANDLORDS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT MAKE THE PUBLIC PURPOSE AT THE END OF THE DAY IS FOR HOUSING
STABILITY FOR TO TO SET HOUSING AT A CERTAIN AM I. 
          AND THAT IS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF, OF THE FUNDS. 
          YEAH. AND DUE TO THE LOAN STRUCTURE YOU, YOU ARE SORT OF BENEFITING BY,
BY PROVIDING STABILITY, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, I DID THIS MATH YESTERDAY,
BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS LOAN STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GOING ON THE TREADMILL OF REFINANCING,
RIGHT? AND SORT OF HAVING ALL THIS SORT OF INTEREST ACCRUE AND PAID OVER MANY YEARS. 
          LET'S SAY IF YOU, IF YOU COMPARE CONVENTIONAL AND REFINANCING EVERY FIVE YEARS OVER A 15
YEAR TERM YOU ARE ABLE TO BASICALLY KEEP RENTS WHERE THEY'RE AT, 
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YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY AND STILL BE COST COMPETITIVE WITH THERE'S STILL BE NET BENEFIT. 
          I STILL HAVE A NET BENEFIT RELATIVE TO CONVENTIONAL FINANCING. 
          RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS STRUCTURE ALLOWS YOU TO,
THIS ALLOWS YOU TO RENOVATE YOUR BUILDING IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T ALLOW, DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO INCREASE RENTS TYPICALLY,
SOMETIMES AT ALL, OR EVEN LIKE A LOT LESS THAN YOU WOULD. 
          YEAH. SO, SO, SO WE WOULD BE GIVING TAXPAYER MONEY TO GO INTO A CREDIT POOL. 
          OKAY. WHICH, WHICH THE CITY WOULD MANAGE. WE WOULD,
WE WOULD MANAGE THAT, THAT POOL. 
          DOES THAT MONEY EVER GET BACK? SO DO WE EVER GET THAT MONEY BACK? THE MONEY WOULD
TECHNICALLY NEVER LEAVE THE CITY UNTIL AN APPLICATION COMES THROUGH. 
          THAT APPLICATION IS APPROVED. THE BANK SAYS,
HEY, THIS APPLICATION IS IS APPROVED FOR THIS FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          THEN THE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY TO DRAW DOWN THAT INTEREST RATE WOULD THEN BE DISBURSED TO THE
RESPECTIVE BANK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE A LOAN PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY. 
          RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE MONEY, NOT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT MONEY BACK
EFFECTIVELY. 
          AND SO THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE FOR 10 TO 20 YEARS OR BECAUSE IT'S WELL,
WHAT'S WHAT IS IT? IT'S BETWEEN 10 AND 20 YEARS. AND THE TERM YOU DECIDE UPON FOR YOUR PERSONAL OWNERSHIP
GOALS THEN WILL REFLECT THE THE LOAN FUNDS YOU ACCESS, RIGHT. IF YOU NEED 20, 30, 40, 50,000 A UNIT,
THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GO SORT OF HIGHER ON THE COMMITMENT LEVEL. 
          BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR 100,000. SO THE 100,000 UNLOCKS X NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          SO THEN THE LIMITING WHAT GETS CONSTRAINED IS THE NUMBER OF UNITS YOU CAN DO RIGHT. 
          $100,000 WILL ALLOW YOU TO ONLY DO X AMOUNT OF UNITS RIGHT. 
          IF THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THAT UNLOCKS 3 TO 500 K RIGHT. 
          SO DEPENDING ON WHAT LANDLORD SIGN UP FOR, THEN THE NUMBER IS LIKE OKAY,
DO WE DO TEN UNITS 12 1520 RIGHT. 
          THERE'S A WORLD IN WHICH WE CAN. RIGHT. SO MY ONLY ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT LET'S SAY
THEY DO THE TEN YEAR AND TEN YEARS GOES BY PRETTY QUICK. 
          AND THE LANDLORD DECIDES TO DO REPAIRS THAT ARE GOOD FOR,
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BRAINSTORMING, PICK AND CHOOSE. THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR 20 YEARS,
BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE AIR CONDITIONING OR THE WASHER AND, YOU KNOW, WASHER AND DRYER, ETC.. AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE THE LANDLORD
COULD TECHNICALLY PASS ON MORE COST TO THE, TO THE TENANTS THAT MAKE IT UNLIVABLE. BUT IT'S KEPT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT JASON
SAID IS THAT THAT'S CAPPED. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? REVENUE OR EXPENSES AND PASS THROUGH THE PASS
THROUGH IS BASED ON, ON INCREASES TO PROPERTY TAXES AND INSURANCE AGAIN,
PROVIDED BEST FAITH EFFORTS TO, TO MITIGATE THOSE COSTS. 
          RIGHT. I WOULD SAY THAT ON THE IMPROVEMENT SIDE GENERALLY WE LOOK TO ENTERPRISE
PRESERVATION NEXT TO ENTERPRISE, YOU KNOW, BIG NONPROFIT THAT IS, THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          YOU WOULD RANK THE ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BUILDING,
STARTING BY LIKE LIFE SAFETY, THEN, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT AFFECT SORT OF OPERATING COSTS,
SORT OF GOING DOWN THE LADDER DOWN TO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S A ROOF ABOUT TO FALL. I WOULD NOT WANT TO,
YOU KNOW, REDO THE KITCHENS. 
          RIGHT. AND SO THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD REQUIRE A LONGER TERM SORT OF COMMITMENT,
RIGHT. 
          TO FUND THE, THE, THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE IN THE BUILDING,
WHICH IS, LET'S SAY IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE ROOF LIKE 700 EUCLID WAS A ROOF COLLAPSE,
RIGHT? AND THAT'S MY CONCERN THOUGH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
LET'S SAY THEY DO. 
          THE MORE OBVIOUSLY THE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, WE,
THE TAXPAYERS HAVE BAILED THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET THIS SORT OF FINANCING BEFORE TO DO THAT. AND AFTER TEN YEARS,
THEY CAN JUST GO TO MARKET RATE. 
          NO, NO, NO. SO THEY'RE TIED TO A COVENANT, RIGHT? FOR HOW LONG FOR FOR THAT DURATION. RIGHT. WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          SO AFTER TEN YEARS, LIKE THE IDEA LOOK, IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE,
YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS GET TO 20,000 A UNIT, YOU CAN'T DO AS MUCH WITH THAT, RIGHT? BUT AFTER,
IN EFFECT, WE SAY, LOOK, YOU'VE PAID YOUR DUES RIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? YOU'VE YOU'VE GIVEN UP A DECADE OF SORT OF MARKETING RENTS TO MARKET. 
          YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IT IS YOUR PROPERTY,
RIGHT? AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET AROUND THIS IS, ARE WE JUST BUYING TEMPORARY AFFORDABILITY? IS IT, ARE WE JUST KIND OF KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD? OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST VERY TEMPORARY AND WE'RE BAILING OUT
LANDLORDS THAT SHOULD BE DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS ANYWAYS, ESPECIALLY IF THEIR LIFE SAFETY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE BAILING
OUT LANDLORDS WHO WHO DECIDE NOT TO DO LIFE SAFETY ISSUES. 
          BUT I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY THESE LANDLORDS ARE,
THEY'RE FUNDING THEIR LIKE, THEY DO CARE ABOUT THEIR BUILDINGS AND THEY CARE ABOUT STABILITY. THEY ARE FUNDING THEM SOMEHOW. RIGHT. 
          I KNOW A LANDLORD, SHE'S REDOING HER WINDOWS IN SOUTH BEACH ON 23RD STREET THROUGH A 401
K, RIGHT. SO SO THEY CARE ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES. THESE ARE,
YOU KNOW, BIG ASSETS IN THEIR LIVES, RIGHT? THEY WANT TO SEE THEM FLOURISH, RIGHT? IT'S GIVING THEM A BETTER OPTION. TO BE ABLE TO DO SO ALLOWS THEM TO DO SO IN A WAY
WHERE IF I TOOK MONEY OUT OF MY 401K, 
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I WANT TO RETURN ON IT. RIGHT? AND SO NOW I'M GOING TO INCREASE RENTS AS SO. 
          AND ANOTHER THING IS BUT DON'T DON'T WE BY DOING THIS POTENTIALLY CREATE ALMOST LIKE AN ENTITLEMENT FOR SOME LANDLORDS TO SAY, HEY,
THERE'S THIS PROGRAM OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST GET, WE CAN WAIT FOR THIS TO, TO, TO DO IMPROVEMENTS AND GET BAILED OUT BY TAXPAYERS. 
          CAN I, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO. JASON. 
          I'M THINKING BECAUSE IF THIS LET'S SAY IT WORKS AND,
AND EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IS SAYING, WELL, THE CITY IS JUST GOING TO GIVE ME MONEY. AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IS JUST KEEP RENTS THE SAME
FOR TEN YEARS AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING, I THINK, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BIG CATCH RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE TO KEEP
RENTS. 
          BUT JUST, WELL, YOU'RE GIVING UP TENS OF THOUSANDS. 
          LIKE IF YOU TAKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN A $200 DIFFERENCE RIGHT ACROSS,
LET'S SAY YOU OWN 25 UNITS AND YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY TEN YEARS, RIGHT? YOU'RE GIVING UP TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS,
PROBABLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND, LIKE SIX FIGURES. YEAH. BUT THE VALUE ISN'T REALLY LIKE IN THE RENT. IT'S, IT'S IN THE PROPERTY ITSELF BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, IN TEN YEARS, THE PROPERTY VALUES AT ITS CURRENT RATE, IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY DOUBLE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY,
THIS IS WHY I LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THIS PROGRAM DOES WORK, YOU KNOW,
THE CITY DOES GET A TAKEAWAY. 
          WE DO GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THEY SAID A RETURN ON INVESTMENT THROUGH A REPAYMENT. 
          NO, BUT IT'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT THROUGH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          IT'S IT'S IT'S NO DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE,
BACK IN OCTOBER, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SURPLUS FUNDS THAT WE HAD FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR,
AND WE WERE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO SEND THAT TO,
YOU KNOW, CONDOMINIUM OWNERS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THESE OTHER GROUPS. AND GET NO RETURN FROM IT. 
          NO, NO LOCK IN, IN, IN AFFORDABILITY HERE. WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING,
WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING. 
          THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING THIS MONEY FOR FREE. 
          I MEAN, THE CITY, THE CITY'S INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW,
UNLOCKS FINANCING AND, AND, AND IT'S A VERY NOMINAL INVESTMENT BY, BY THE CRA. IT'S NOT EVEN THE CITY, IT'S THE CRA. 
          IT'S MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE COUNTY THAT IS STAYING WITHIN THE CRA. 
          AND RATHER THAN PUTTING IT INTO, INTO SOMETHING ELSE,
WE'RE PUTTING IT WE'RE PUTTING IT INTO STABILIZING HOUSING AND IMPROVING BUILDINGS. I GOT, I GOT WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOUR CONCERN IS,
BUT I DON'T, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT THAT'S HOW THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO WORK. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S
GOING TO SAY, WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO LET MY PROPERTY GET GOT ABANDONED SO THAT I CAN POTENTIALLY PARTICIPATE AND GET, YOU KNOW, A PIECE OF THE FINANCING FROM THE $100,000. 
          YOU KNOW, IT THERE ARE THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN ENTITLEMENT. I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY AND THEY NEED TO
QUALIFY. 
          AND THERE IS A VETTING PROCESS. NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A TYPICAL BANK LOAN, RIGHT. 
          SO YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD THAT BY LAW,
10% OF OUR REVENUE MUST MUST GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE $100,000 OF THAT AND TO PUT IT INTO REAL LIFE
SITUATIONS AND FIGURE OUT, ARE THERE KINKS THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE? ARE THERE BENEFITS THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE? HOW DOES IT WORK? WHAT DO WE NEED TO TWEAK? LET'S FIGURE IT OUT. 
          THIS IS NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THIS IS A SOLUTION, ONE SINGLE A SOLUTION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T TRY TO LEARN FROM THIS AND GROW WITH IT. 
          IF IT DOES INDEED PROVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL THE WAY WE BELIEVE IT WILL. 
          AND IT IS A MINUSCULE AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I
REALLY WOULD LIKE IF THIS PROGRAM WORKS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT EXPAND TO INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY, THE PERSON THAT OWNS THAT INDIVIDUAL UNIT WHERE THEY'RE,
WHERE THEY WANT TO KEEP NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE FRAMING OF IT IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GIVEAWAY,
WHAT IT IS, IT'S AN EXCHANGE. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT HERE. 
          THERE IS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE HERE. WHERE,
WHERE YES, WE'RE OFFERING BETTER FINANCING TERMS, BUT IN TURN, WE ARE GETTING PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND IF I WOULD SEE THAT IN OUR CITY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE,
YOU KNOW, MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF, OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEN I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW,
THIS MIGHT NOT BE WORTH EXPLORING, BUT KNOWING HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO ACHIEVE 
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AFFORDABILITY IN HOUSING OR SIMPLY DECENT, LIVABLE,
NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE THE THING IS, WE DO HAVE THE NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOW. 
          BUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S AFFORDABLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS WELL KEPT. 
          AND SO, AND SO I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A CERTAIN,
AN ELEMENT HERE OF GIVING DIGNITY, GIVING DIGNITY TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WHERE THERE IS AN EXCHANGE,
WHERE THE CITY DOES GET A TRUE PUBLIC BENEFIT, A TRUE PUBLIC PURPOSE FROM THIS INVESTMENT. BUT IT'S ONLY FOR IT'S ONLY FOR A SHORT PERIOD
OF TIME, 10 TO 20 YEARS. RIGHT. SO AND USUALLY, I MEAN,
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS WITH WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, YOU USUALLY HAVE COVENANTS THAT RUN WITH THE LAND THAT
REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS. YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS IS DONE WITH ZONING, YOU LOOK AT ZONING APPLICATIONS,
AT OTHER TYPES OF REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS, AND THEY'LL HAVE ZONING COME IN, BUT THEY'LL HAVE COVENANTS THAT RUN WITH THE LAND WHERE
THEY GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SET ASIDES OF UNITS FOR A CERTAIN ARMY FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. AND THAT'S REGISTERED THROUGH,
THROUGH, THROUGH COVENANTS. 
          AND EVENTUALLY THOSE COVENANTS DO EXPIRE. IT'S,
IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR FRAMEWORK. 
          NO, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. BUT USUALLY WHEN THOSE,
THOSE BENEFITS ARE. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING TAXPAYER MONEY TO LANDLORDS THAT ARE ABLE TO UPGRADE THEIR BUILDING THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO AT THE
END OF TEN YEARS. 
          WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THEY CAN JUST ASTRONOMICALLY RAISE THE RENTS AFTER THAT AND YOU'RE
DISPLACING. 
          I MEAN, AND IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW THAN IT WOULD BE FROM TODAY. 
          AND I'M JUST LISTEN, WE'RE IN A COMMITTEE AND SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH. 
          YOU KNOW, I GENERALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TO ORLANDO BECAUSE WE,
I HAVE TO RESIZE THE MEETING AT 1245 AND WE STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS TO GO THROUGH. 
          SO I SAY A COUPLE, COUPLE POINTS, YOU BRING UP PHENOMENAL POINTS. 
          LOOK, I WOULD SAY FIRST ON, ON THE SORT OF LENGTH OF THESE COVENANTS,
RIGHT? LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, COVENANTS 40 YEARS, RIGHT? FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE,
IT'S A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK THEN I WOULD ARGUE HERE BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THE SORT OF LEVERAGE YOU'RE GETTING ON A PER UNIT,
PER YEAR OF AFFORDABILITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO LIKE LOW SINGLE DIGIT THOUSANDS. SO
LET'S SAY $1,000, 1200, $1,500 PER UNIT, PER YEAR OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT, I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK ON THE NMR AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          LET'S SAY THAT WAS A 40 YEAR COVENANT, RIGHT? MY ONLY ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR 1020 YEARS THOUGH,
OR DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ELECT TO HAVE YOU NORMALIZE FOR PER UNIT, PER YEAR OF AFFORDABILITY, RIGHT? IT'S A, YOU KNOW,
$125,000 DIVIDED BY 40 YEARS. 
          THAT'S $3,100 PER UNIT PER YEAR. SO YOU'RE STILL THREE X SORT OF CHEAPER ON WHEN YOU LOOK
AT PER YEAR OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND THEN I WOULD SAY, ADDITIONALLY, IF AN OWNER'S PLAN IS TO OWN IT FOR THE NEXT TEN,
20 YEARS, EVEN LONGER, PASS IT DOWN TO THEIR KIDS. WE WANT TO CREATE AN EXPERIENCE THAT A LANDLORD
WILL WANT TO THEN RE-UP, YOU KNOW, USE THIS PROGRAM AT THE END OF TEN YEARS TO CONTINUE TO SORT OF ARE THEY ABLE TO
SELL? I HAVE TO SAY THAT, AND I REALLY WANT TO BRING THIS IN FOR A LANDING. 
          IF FOR A CRA INVESTMENT OF $100,000, I'M ABLE TO GET ANY AMOUNT OF UNITS WITHIN
AFFORDABILITY COVENANT FOR 20 YEARS, I'LL TAKE IT. I'LL TAKE IT. IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. 
          I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR 20 YEARS. AND AND,
AND I HAVEN'T, I'VE ONLY SEEN US LOSE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          IT'S I, I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF A MOTION IS MADE AND I CAN'T SO THE,
THE ITEM HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BARD. 
          SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SALINAS. 
          YOU MAKE GOOD POINTS, BUT I'D LIKE TO FINISH SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. 
          BUT FINE. IF THIS ITEM I'M SURE WILL BE HEARD AT COMMISSION. 
          BUT YOU KNOW. WE HAVE TO GET TO OTHER ITEMS AND WE. 
          AND AND IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO KILL ANYTHING. I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO GET DOWN TO,
YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. 
          AND I THINK ALSO THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE TEXTING ME RIGHT NOW AND THEY,
THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS FOR. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO FLESH THIS OUT AT A
COMMISSION MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ON THIS COMMITTEE, SO YOU MAKE THE CALL. 
          YEAH, I THINK I, I, I THINK WE'VE ALL REVIEWED THE ITEM. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE ITEM IS VERY WELL EXPLAINED ON THE AGENDA. 
          WE HAVE A PRESENTATION IN THE AGENDA ABOUT THIS THAT IS THAT IS VERY THOROUGH. 
          AND I AND AGAIN, OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS IN MIAMI BEACH,
I HAVE ONLY SEEN US LOSE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          [02:50:03]
I HAVE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SECURES FOR ANY MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF TIME YOU KNOW,
HOUSING IN, IN THE CITY OR THAT HELPS REINVEST IN THE PRESERVATION OF THESE PROPERTIES. 
          AND AND FOR A VERY NOMINAL AMOUNT, NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING THAT,
BUT WE'RE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CRA THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE CRA FUNDS BE REINVESTED INTO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          WE HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT. AND THE BEST WAY, THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN DO IT IS BY
PARTNERING WITH PEOPLE THAT CAN UNLOCK MORE PRIVATE CAPITAL TO MAKE OUR $1 GO FIVE TIMES AS FAR AS AS OUR LONE INDIVIDUAL INVESTMENT WOULD, WOULD IT BE SO WITH THAT,
WE CAN SEE WE CAN SHOW THIS ITEM. 
          SEEING NO MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM AND SEEING NO MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK. 
          THE ITEM. CAN WE SHOW THIS ITEM ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION? AND IF I CAN JUST IN THE AS WE'RE TEEING UP THE NEXT ITEM,
YOU KNOW, OUR COLLEAGUE MENTIONED THAT HE WAS GETTING ALL KINDS OF TEXT MESSAGES FROM RESIDENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT ANY. I DIDN'T,
BUT IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO ANY ONE OF US AND WE CAN SHARE THE PRESENTATION. 
          WE CAN SHARE A LINK TO THIS FILM. YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER FOR
EVERYONE NOT TO DO THINGS IN THE DARK. 
          SO IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. SO SO SO SO SO SINCE WE ARE IN COMMITTEE,
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. 
          ARE THERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS. EXPRESS CONCERNS PLEASE. 
          IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN ZOOM. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE BODY,
TO ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OF THE PRESENTERS BEFORE US. 
          STEPHANIE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M SEEING NONE RIGHT NOW THERE. OKAY. SO BEING BEING THAT THERE ARE NO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, AND BEING THAT WE HAVE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CURRENTLY AT THE MOMENT WITH THEIR HANDS
RAISED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM,
WHICH COMMITTEES USUALLY DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAD A SUDDEN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING,
AND NO ONE SPOKE ON THIS ITEM. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, WE DID A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM NOW AND NO ONE ELSE SPOKE ON THIS
ITEM. 
          WE CAN SHOW THIS ITEM ADOPTED BY ACCLAMATION AND SENT BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH A
POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, LET'S CALL ITEMS SEVEN, 
          [ DISCUSS/UPDATE ON G.O. BOND LOG CABIN PROJECT]
          [ DISCUSS RELOCATING THE LOG CABIN TO ITS ORIGINAL SITE ON THE WEST LOTS]
          [ DISCUSS USING PORTION OF THE LOG CABIN FOR COMMUNITY PANTRY WITH FRIDGE.]
          [ DISCUSS FUTURE PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES AT THE LOG CABIN.]
EIGHT, NINE AND TEN TOGETHER. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS DISCUSS UPDATE ON GOB LOG CABIN
PROJECT. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER BOTT. 
          ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS DISCUSS RELOCATING THE LOG CABIN TO ITS ORIGINAL SITES ON ITS WEST
LOTS. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER BOTT. THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSED USING PORTIONS OF
THE LOG CABIN FOR COMMUNITY PANTRY WITH FRIDGE. 
          THIS ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ AND FINALLY DISCUSS FUTURE PROGRAMING
OPPORTUNITIES AT THE LOG CABIN. 
          THAT ITEM WAS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER BALL. 
          THANK YOU AND AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE RAN TO THE RESTROOM. 
          I WANT TO GIVE COMMISSIONER A MOMENT TO TO COME INTO CHAMBERS. 
          SO PERHAPS IF IF ONE OF MY AIDES COULD PLEASE,
BECAUSE THESE ARE HER ITEMS. AND LET'S JUST GIVE A MOMENT FOR COMMISSIONER BOARD TO COME IN,
BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE THESE ITEMS TOGETHER. BECAUSE THEY ALL RELATE TO THE FUTURE OF THE LOG CABIN IN, IN NORTH BEACH. AND WHILE THESE ITEMS ARE,
ARE LISTED SEPARATELY, THEY ARE ALL PART OF THE BROADER CONVERSATION. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE APPROACH THEM HOLISTICALLY RATHER THAN,
YOU KNOW, SEPARATELY. AND, AND IT'S ABOUT DEFINING THE VISION OF,
OF, OF, OF THE LOG CABIN. 
          WHERE SHOULD THE LOG CABIN BE LOCATED? WHAT SHOULD BE,
WHAT SHOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF, OF THE LOG CABIN? WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMING SHOULD BE IN IT? IMPORTANTLY,
HOW DO WE DO ALL OF THIS IN A WAY THAT IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE OVER, OVER, OVER TIME? SO, SO,
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE SEPARATE ITEMS THAT COMMISSIONER. BOARD HAS BROUGHT FORWARD TOGETHER WITH,
I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ AS, AS WELL YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL CARRYING THIS COMMON THEME. 
          SO I LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER BARD TO,
TO INTRODUCE THESE ITEMS AND GUIDE US IN, IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING IN. 
          [02:55:08]
SO FORGIVE ME, BUT WHICH NUMBERS DID YOU THE LOG CABIN ITEMS. ALL OF THEM. OKAY. YEAH. SEVEN, EIGHT. NINE AND TEN. PERFECT. SO SO THEY ALL SORT OF FOLD
INTO EACH OTHER. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR CALLING THEM TOGETHER, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY IN DIFFERENT FORMATS,
IS PUTTING THE LOG CABIN BACK ONTO THE WEST LOTS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT AS PART OF PLAN B, IT WAS ENVISIONED AS POSSIBLY AN AMENITY FOR THE PARK. 
          I THINK WHERE RESIDENTS OF NORTH BEACH ARE IS THAT THEY WANT IT REINSTALLED ON THE WEST
LOTS. 
          I THINK THE BIGGER CONVERSATION IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE REIMAGINE THE WEST
LOTS IN THEIR ENTIRETY AS AS A FULL PARK AND YOU KNOW, SO LET'S IMAGINE THAT THE LOG CABIN GOES BACK INTO ITS SPOT. 
          AND THE PARK CONCEPT GROWS OUT AROUND IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF USES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
FOR IT. 
          ALBA HAS BEEN TALKING WITH ME, WITH ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAS THIS INCREDIBLE CONCEPT,
WHAT WE'RE CALLING INTERNALLY CALLED THE THRIVE HIVE, WHICH IS A SORT OF A LOOSE WAY OF DESCRIBING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONALITIES WITHIN
THE LOG CABIN FACILITY ITSELF, DESIGNED TO PREDOMINANTLY FOCUS ON PEOPLE SORT OF 20 TO 50,
MORE OR LESS, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY. 
          SO. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND RESOURCES AND SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES AND
ACTIVATIONS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED FOR USE AND SORT OF ANCHORED OUT OF THE LOG CABIN WITH THE INPUT OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY WHEN,
WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP. 
          I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET THE LOG CABIN UP AND RUNNING ASAP. 
          I THINK THE, AND YOU SAID THIS GOES UP TO NUMBER TEN,
RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. YOU KNOW, SO THE LIGHTING, THE THE COMMUNITY PANTRY ITEM CAN BE FOLDED INTO
WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE THRIVE HIVE AT THE LOG CABIN WITH A WAY OF HAVING IT BE MONITORED. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST SUCCESSFUL 24 OVER SEVEN, WHICH LEADS TO PROBLEMS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TO DAVID AND TO ALBA. 
          AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. 
          I NEED TO RECESS THE MEETING AT 1245. SO IF WE COULD JUST BE,
YOU KNOW, MINDFUL OF THAT, PLEASE, BECAUSE I DO WANT TO FINISH ALL THESE ITEMS BEFORE WE ADJOURN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. MADAM COMMISSIONER. 
          DAVID GOMEZ, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS,
AS AN UPDATE TO WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW WITH THE LOG CABIN. 
          AS YOU KNOW, DURING THE DOVER COLE STUDY, WHICH THE COMMISSIONER REFERENCED,
IT WAS PROPOSED TO GO IN THE PARK ITSELF THAT WAS PUT PUT FORWARD AT THROUGH FERC AND THROUGH THE COMMISSION, WHICH ADOPTED THAT RESOLUTION TO PLACE IT AT THE PARK. WE'VE BEEN
MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT ASSUMPTION. 
          THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT IS ABOUT WE WILL RECEIVE 90% SUBMITTALS THIS MONTH AND GOING
OUT TO BID EARLY THIS SUMMER. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO MOVE THE PROJECT? THE LOG CABIN FROM ITS CURRENT PROPOSED SITE TO A NEW SITE AT THE WEST LOTTS,
ABOVE AND BEYOND. 
          THERE ARE PROJECTED COST IN THE PARK. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL MILLION AND CHANGE MILLION
CHANGE. 
          SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THIS TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY
FUNDS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SO THAT BASED ON WHAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TELLS US, WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IT IS INDEED FEASIBLE TO PLACE IT ON THE WEST
LOTS. 
          YEAH. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY I'M SURPRISED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MOVING IT BACK TO
WEST LOTS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          SO I'M SURPRISED THAT IT HASN'T SORT OF BEEN TRAVELING AT A PARALLEL PATH. 
          MAKING THE PREPARATIONS TO MOVE IT TO THE WEST LOTS IMPLIES ADDITIONAL COSTS,
NOT ONLY IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUT IN THE DESIGN AS WELL. 
          BUT SO THAT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN PRUDENT TO MAKE THAT DECISION BEFORE
PROCEEDING ALL THE WAY TO 90% COMPLETION WITHOUT DIRECTION FROM COMMISSION? I'M MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA $1 MILLION THAT NORTH
TO UP TO $1 MILLION UP TO MAYBE MORE. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE ON THIS,
BECAUSE I WAS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT WE WANTED TO GET IT BACK INTO THE WEST LOTS. AND I DID NOT I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN DIRECTION GIVEN TO THAT. 
          AND THAT WE WERE PROCEEDING AS IF THERE WAS NO DESIRE TO MOVE IT INTO WEST LOTS. 
          WHEN IT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT THERE HAS BEEN DESIRE TO MOVE IT INTO WEST LOTS. 
          [03:00:03]
AND I AND I HAVE TO SAY MY PRIORITY IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE LOG CABIN,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE LOG CABIN IS NOT A DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ THE MEMO,
IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE MEMO. 
          THE LOG CABIN HAS BEEN HAS LONG BEEN CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC STRUCTURE AND A
BELOVED COMMUNITY FIXTURE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF NORTH BEACH. SO THE PRIORITY IS HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE LOG CABIN? THAT IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE NOW? IS IT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET IN THE PARK,
OR IS IT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET? ON THE WEST? LOTS. TO ME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW,
IT'S IT'S THAT THERE IS LIKE TECHNICALITY ICING ON THE CAKE MAYBE. AND I THINK AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
IT'S NOT FOR, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT WILL INFLUENCE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH, WITH THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT HOW I'M SEEING IT, THE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IS TO PRESERVE THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE,
WHICH IS NOT DESIGNATED, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO HINDER ITS PRESERVATION,
SAVING, SAVING THIS PROJECT BY RELOCATING IT ACROSS THE STREET. AND THAT'S WHERE UNDERSTANDING,
OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SACRIFICE? WHAT IF WE NEED $1 MILLION, AT LEAST $1 MILLION TO MOVE THE LOG CABIN TO THE WEST LOTS? WELL, THEN WHAT ARE WE NOT GOING TO FUND IN ORDER TO,
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT? AND AND, AND, AND DOES THAT ULTIMATELY JEOPARDIZE THE LONG TERM COMPLETION OF THIS
PROJECT? AND SO GOAL NUMBER ONE HAS TO BE PRESERVE THIS,
SAVE IT, BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. 
          AND THEN GOAL NUMBER TWO, ICING ON THE CAKE. IF THE MONEY IS THERE AND IT DOESN'T TAKE
AWAY FROM OTHER NEEDS OF NORTH BEACH, WELL THEN YEAH, ICING ON THE CAKE WOULD BE TO PUT IT IN THE WEST LOT. 
          SO I, BEFORE I, BEFORE WE MOVE IT TO FINANCE,
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS COME BACK. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING OFFLINE WITH YOU GUYS AND UNDERSTAND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. 
          I HAVE A MILLION QUESTIONS. CAN WE FIND THE MONEY FROM CRA? IF WE ARE ENVISIONING A A WHOLE PARK RE-IMAGINATION TO SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT WOULD BE
NECESSARY TO MOVE IT INTO WEST LOTS BE ABLE TO BE ABSORBED BY A PARK REDO. RIGHT. SO SMOOTHING THINGS OUT AND WATER AND ELECTRIC,
ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT GOING TO THROW IT ONTO THE MERCIES OF,
OF ANOTHER COMMITTEE WITHOUT HAVING THOSE ANSWERS. OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I, I SHARE YOUR YOUR GOAL IN PRESERVING THIS. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT THAT'S YOU'RE THE LEADER. 
          NO, BUT MY POINT IS THAT THIS IS A VERY DEEP WOUND IN THE NORTH BEACH PSYCHE. 
          AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, I AGREE WITH IT OR DON'T AGREE WITH IT. 
          IT IS A VERY DEEP. THE FACT THAT IT WAS DEMOLISHED FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MATERIALIZE,
THAT WAS DEMOLISHED LITERALLY AFTER WE HAD BEEN TOLD IT WAS GOING TO COME UP FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION THE VERY NEXT WEEK AND IT WAS DEMOLISHED
ANYHOW. 
          I MEAN, THE DOCUMENTATION IS RIFE. WE WERE LIED TO,
IT WAS OFFENSIVE. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN SITTING, LANGUISHING BECAUSE OF A PIPE DREAM PROJECT THAT
NEVER CAME TO LIGHT IS A DEEP, DEEP AFFRONT TO NORTH BEACH. AND SO I, YOU KNOW,
NORMALLY I WOULD BE SORT OF IN YOUR CAMP CHAIR AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING IT BACK. AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. 
          I WANT TO GET IT BACK IN THE RIGHT PLACE. AND I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO GET
IT BACK IN THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          I UNDERSTAND, AND I AND I THINK WE'RE MORE OR LESS ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE. WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS IN NORTH BEACH,
AND THAT IF IT'S GOING TO COST US AN EXTRA 1 MILLION PLUS DOLLARS TO MOVE, TO MOVE IT FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, AT THIS STAGE THAT WE'RE APPROACHING 90% DESIGN. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN TO 90%. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION. SO I AGREE AND LET'S FIND OUT. 
          STEPHEN, I THINK JUST LEFT, BUT WE'LL FIGURE OUT ABOUT CRA FUNDS AND WHAT WE CAN DO IN
THAT FRONT. 
          SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, CAN WE DEFER IT? YEAH,
WE CAN DEFER SEVEN WHICH GOES TOGETHER WITH EIGHT WHICH GOES TOGETHER. 
          I GUESS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NINE, BUT SEVEN AND EIGHT,
WE CAN DEFER THAT, BUT I SEE I'M GOING TO ON SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHICH IS SEVEN IS THE THE UPDATE ON THE GEO BOND FOR THE LOG CABIN PROJECT. 
          AND EIGHT IS DISCUSSION. RE RELOCATING THE LOG CABIN TO ITS ORIGINAL SITE ON THE WEST
LOTS. 
          BEFORE WE DEFER THIS ITEM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK. 
          SEEING NONE IN PERSON, I SEE DANIEL GERALDO WITH HIS HAND RAISED ON ZOOM. 
          GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON DANIEL, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS DANIEL SPRAWLDEF 730 10TH STREET. 
          [03:05:03]
AND THE LOG CABIN IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF NORTH BEACH. 
          THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR CONCERN AND CONTINUED INTEREST IN ITS PRESERVATION. 
          I DID WANT TO MENTION PERSONALLY THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT GOING IN ITS PLANNED
LOCATION IN THE PARK. 
          ONE THING THAT I REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING IT IS THAT THE PARK HAS A LOT OF FOOT
TRAFFIC, OF PEOPLE GOING ALL THE WAY, EVEN FROM SURFSIDE AND DOWN AND FROM MID BEACH AND UP. 
          AND SO IF THE LOG CABIN STAYS THERE, IT'LL REALLY BE,
I THINK, MORE VISIBLE AND MORE USED. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WHEN IT WAS IN THE WEST LOTS. 
          I ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR FINANCE AS A FUTURE ITEM,
EVEN ON THE THIRD SORRY, APRIL 1ST, AGENDA F EIGHT. SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST KEEPING IT WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY PLANNED,
BUT EITHER WAY, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT RECONSTRUCTED. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. DANIEL. CLIVE, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED ON ZOOM. 
          PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. WELCOME. THANK YOU,
COMMISSIONER, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR BRINGING THIS UP. YOU KNOW,
I FEEL LIKE LIKE NEIL ARMSTRONG GOING BACK IN TIME THAT THE EAGLES EAGLES LANDED. 
          WELL, THE EAGLES ALMOST LANDED. BUT I THINK IT'S LANDED ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAME ABOUT TO GET MOVED INTO THE PARK. 
          AND I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE G.O. BOND,
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN SITTING WITH THIS THING FOR A LONG TIME, OVER EIGHT YEARS WITH KAREN, BACK WHEN THE GOBAN WAS DISCUSSED AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE
FINANCING FOR IT. 
          AND THE INTENTION AT THAT TIME WAS TO PUT IT IN THE WEST LOT. 
          IT WASN'T IN THE PARK, AND THE MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE TO IT IN THE GOLD BOND WAS
SPECIFICALLY FOR ITS LOCATION IN THE WEST LOT. 
          SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW IT'S ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO PUT IT BACK
WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF BOTHERED ME. BUT WE GOT TO GET IT BACK. 
          IT'S A WOUND. LIKE THE COMMISSIONER SAID, IN NORTH BEACH,
PEOPLE WERE LIED TO ON THIS THING. 
          IT'S BEEN LANGUISHING FOR YEARS. LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. 
          PLEASE. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG. 
          I KNOW PEOPLE ARE BUSY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THE ON THE ON YOUR PLATES. 
          BUT THE THE MONEY'S THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT'S ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO PUT IT BACK
WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND AND, AND AS FAR AS THE USE OF IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE ALL THE USE. 
          IT'S IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE NORTH BEACH. 
          IT'S A GATHERING SPOT. ALWAYS HAS BEEN. I MEAN,
I WENT FOR YEARS THERE AT THE HOLIDAY TIME TO BUY THE WREATHS AND THINGS. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THINGS ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PARK. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIT THERE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS. 
          PLEASE, LET'S JUST PUT IT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. 
          THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU LEAVE US A QUICK, QUICK QUESTION,
BECAUSE YOU YOU DID MENTION THAT BRINGING IT BACK WAS A PRIORITY FOR YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOUR COLLABORATION WITH WITH THE JAIL BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 
          IF DO YOU STILL, IF, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THIS ADDED COST,
DO YOU, DOES YOUR OPINION CHANGE AT THAT POINT? SHOULD IT STILL GO ON ON THE WEST LOTS? OR IF THERE IS THIS ADDED $1 MILLION COST,
KNOWING THAT THAT MIGHT TAKE AWAY FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OTHER NEEDS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND IN NORTH BEACH. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY HERE, SIR. IT'S A WAS WAS BUILT. 
          THERE WAS INTENDED THERE, STOOD THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS. 
          NO HURRICANES COULD KNOCK IT DOWN. THE CITY WAS ABLE TO KNOCK IT DOWN. 
          IT NEEDS TO GO BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR COST ON TOP OF A $2 MILLION PRICE ALREADY. 
          IT JUST SEEMS EXORBITANT, AND I QUESTION THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT MY DIVISION. THAT'S NOT MY PLACE. 
          I, I IMPLORE YOU, PLEASE PUT IT BACK WHERE WHERE IT BELONGS,
WHERE IT ORIGINATED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT NORTH BEACH WANTS. WE HAVE PETITIONS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS
FOR YEARS. 
          NOBODY'S GIVING UP ON US. SO PLEASE, PLEASE PUT IT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TODAY'S MEETING. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT? SEEING NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          LET'S SHOW THIS ITEM DEFERRED. COMMISSIONER BOB,
WOULD YOU LIKE. 
          PERHAPS WE CAN HOST. IT'S UP TO YOU A ZOOM MEETING WHERE WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM
STAFF AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S UP TO YOU. I'LL TAKE YOUR LEAD IF THERE'S TIME FOR IT. WE CAN DO IT. THERE'S NOT TIME
BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE BEFORE THE WHEELS. 
          THE WHEELS KEEP TURNING. I'LL DEFER TO YOU. YEAH,
SORRY. 
          LET'S PLAY THAT BY EAR AND LET ME GET WITH WITH DAVID AND HIS TEAM. 
          AND I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HOLD UP THE PROCESS OF THE ITEM MOVING THROUGH COMMITTEE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE. I'M LITERALLY TEXTING OUR
DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO FIND OUT CRA FUNDS. 
          SO THIS IS SUPER HIGH PRIORITY. WITH THAT, WE CAN SHOW THIS ITEM DEFERRED. 
          STEPHANIE, LET'S CALL ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY CALLED,
BUT THAT'S DISCUSSING, 
          [03:10:02]
USING PORTION OF THE LOG CABIN FOR COMMUNITY PANTRY WITH FRIDGE. 
          YES, AND I KNOW THIS IS COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ'S ITEM. 
          AND, AND I, I RESPECTFULLY, I'D LIKE TO DEFER THIS ALSO TO A TIME WHEN COMMISSIONER
DOMINGUEZ IS PRESENT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF SUPPORTING THE NEEDS OF THE
COMMUNITY. 
          BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT DO HAVE FOOD INSECURITIES THAT COULD BENEFIT
FROM, FROM, FROM THIS PROGRAM. I'M NOT SURE IF DOING IT THROUGH A PANTRY IS THE BEST APPROACH. 
          BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH FEEDING SOUTH FLORIDA AND WITH
FARMSHARE AND FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT WOULD COST US TO OPERATE A PANTRY, COULD WE DO A MORE MODEST TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION? BECAUSE A PANTRY. A FOOD PANTRY SERVES HOW MANY PEOPLE? MAYBE A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE ANTICIPATE A FOOD PANTRY WOULD SERVE? GOOD AFTERNOON. THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          IT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE PANTRY FIRST,
AND THEN WITH THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS TO BUILD THAT CAPACITY. 
          WITH WHAT THE PANTRY COULD SERVE. SO MAYBE, POSSIBLY 20,
30, 40, IT REALLY WOULD DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE PANTRY. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO IS PERHAPS IF YOU COULD MEET WITH THE ITEM SPONSOR AND
SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES THERE COULD BE,
HOW COULD WE USE THE PROPOSED DOLLARS THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS OPERATING A PANTRY, TOWARDS PARTNERING WITH ENTITIES THAT ALREADY SPECIALIZE IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THIS
SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION, WHETHER IT BE FARMSHARE OR FEEDING SOUTH FLORIDA. 
          A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE SEE THEIR EVENTS, THEY TEND TO BE THESE BIG,
MASSIVE EVENTS THAT TEND TO BE VERY LOGISTICALLY INTENSE. 
          BUT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO SOMETHING MORE BOUTIQUE TO SERVE TO SERVE THE POPULATION
IN, IN NORTH BEACH AND GET A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL. 
          BECAUSE THE REALITY, THE REALITY IS THAT THEY ARE INDEED,
YOU KNOW, A LARGE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN NORTH BEACH AND IN MIAMI BEACH. 
          JUST HOW THEY'RE FACING AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGES AT HOME. 
          THEY'RE FACING FOOD INSECURITIES. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE PANTRY MODEL IS THE BEST ONE. 
          COMMISSIONER. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON HOW
TO DO IT. 
          IF WE WERE TO DO IT AT THE LOG CABIN. AND I DO THINK ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER 11 WHERE WE'RE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE THRIVE HIVE CONCEPT COULD LEND ITSELF TO HAVING THIS KIND OF IN AND OUT SERVICE OF OF A PANTRY. 
          SO MAYBE WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER AND, AND, AND DEFER THEM TOGETHER. 
          BECAUSE YEAH, BRING THEM BACK BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPLAIN IN BETTER DETAIL WHAT
THE THRIVE HIVE IS, HOW IT WOULD WORK, AND HOW THIS COULD BE A COMPONENT OF IT AS WELL AS YOU KNOW,
A SEPARATE BUT RELATED CONVERSATION ABOUT OR THE FOOD SERVICES PART COULD BE PERHAPS A DIFFERENT MODEL ENTIRELY, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE USEFUL TO HAVE IT IN CONTEXT
RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE METAPHORICAL SHELL OF AN EMPTY LOG CABIN,
WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS ENVISIONING. 
          OKAY. SO WITH THAT WE CAN SHOW THE TWO ITEMS RELATING TO THE USE OF THE LOG CABIN PARTS OF
IT FOR A COMMUNITY PANTRY, AND TO DISCUSS A FUTURE PROGRAMING OPPORTUNITIES OF THE LOG CABIN. 
          WE CAN SHOW THE DEFERRED END BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY DEFER IT. 
          ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS? THESE TWO ITEMS? SEEING NONE IN PERSON AND NONE ON ZOOM. 
          WITH THEIR HAND RAISED, WE CAN SHOW THOSE TWO ITEMS DEFERRED. 
          AND ARE THESE TWO SETS OF DEFERRALS TO THE NEXT MONTH? OKAY. THAT'S MY INTENT. I DO WANT TO KEEP THESE NORTH BEACH ITEMS TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S
USUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, I THINK IT'S, IT'S BENEFICIAL,
ESPECIALLY, IT'S USUALLY THE SAME STAKEHOLDERS. 
          SO I WANT TO BE COURTEOUS TO THEM BY KEEPING THEM TOGETHER. 
          POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LIGHTING AT THE WEST,
LOTS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          [ DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENT OF LIGHTING AT THE WEST LOTS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY.]
          [ DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL TRANSFORMATION OF THE ALLEY LOCATED WEST OF THE WEST LOTS INTO A BICYCLE BOULEVARD.]
COMMISSIONER. BOARD. YOU HAD PLACED THIS, THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          YOU WANT TO GUIDE US THROUGH THIS? YEAH. THIS ONE NUMBER 12 ACTUALLY,
OR AGAIN, KIND OF GO TOGETHER. 
          AND I THINK THAT THEY, I, I WOULD, I THINK, WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE TALK FURTHER ABOUT
REIMAGINING WEST LOTS AS A PARK IN ITS ENTIRETY. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW,
RODNEY, IS THERE STUFF THAT COULD BE DONE TOMORROW FOR NO MONEY THAT WE CAN. 
          WE CAN SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THE INTERIM BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR OR TWO TO GET THIS PARK BUILT. 
          BUT I THINK THE THE BIGGER GOAL IS HOW DO WE REIMAGINE THE WEST LOTS AS A PARK WITH BETTER
LIGHTING, 
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BETTER SAFETY, BETTER PEDESTRIANIZATION, BETTER BICYCLE MODALITY,
YOU KNOW, BETTER FUNCTIONALITY AND SERVICES AND ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK ANY QUICK WINS THERE? YEAH. 
          RODNEY. LOW HANGING FRUIT. GOOD AFTERNOON. RODNEY KNOWLES,
THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS. I THINK AS FAR AS QUICK WINS GO, OUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TIED BECAUSE WE HAVE A VARIETY OF USES HAPPENING ON THE WEST LOTS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE COMPOSTING OCEAN RESCUE, PARKING LOTS,
ETC. 
          AND WE REALLY THINK THAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD IS A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY THAT'S GOING TO GIVE
US A TRUE ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO DO THIS. 
          RIGHT. ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SEA TURTLE LIGHTING BECAUSE THE EAST FACING
ELEVATION FROM THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET. 
          THAT VARIES AS YOU'RE GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH,
AND ANY LIGHTING THAT WE PUT IN THOSE LOTS CAN'T BE SEEN FROM THE BEACH. 
          SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT RIGHT. 
          AND IF WE CAN IDENTIFY FUNDING TO PAY FOR THAT INITIAL STUDY,
I THINK WE'LL BE ON THE RIGHT RIGHT COURSE. 
          YEAH. SO MY, MY INTENT, I THINK MY VISION IS TO NOT SPEND MONEY ON A STUDY FOR SOMETHING
THAT PERHAPS WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY OR WOULD BE FOLDED IN AS PART OF A PARK MASTER PLAN. RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON, ON LIGHTING. 
          IF IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO REDO IT AS PART OF A PARK. 
          SO I THINK MY GOAL WOULD RATHER, I WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON FAST TRACKING THE PLANNING
PROCESS FOR THE PARK AND GETTING THIS DONE AS PART OF THAT. WHAT WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? MISTER CHAIR,
THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          YEAH. SO. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL BRING ITEMS SEVEN,
EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND 11, AND 12 BACK TO COMMITTEE TOGETHER. SO IN ESSENCE, THIS SECOND PORTION OF THE,
OF THE AGENDA, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO, TO DO HERE. AND I THINK TEN AND 12 MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME BECAUSE WE JUST NEED
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS DESIRE. YEAH, AS I, AS I MENTIONED AND,
AND THIS IS FOR, FOR STAFF AND FOR, FOR MEMBERS OF, OF THE COMMITTEE AND MY COLLEAGUES IN GENERAL I'M ONLY GOING TO BE PLACING
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ONCE THE SPONSORING ITEM, ONCE THE SPONSORING COMMISSIONER FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THE ITEM BEING PLACED ON THE
AGENDA. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE A LOT OF TIMES STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION WORK ON
ITEMS. THEY GET APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THEN THEY END UP ON COMMITTEE AGENDAS. 
          BUT THE SPONSORING COMMISSIONER DOESN'T KNOW THAT THEIR ITEM IS BEING PLACED ON THE
AGENDA, AND THE SPONSORING COMMISSIONER MIGHT NOT EVEN MAY NOT HAVE EVEN SEEN THE MEMO AND MIGHT WANT TO MAKE TWEAKS TO THE PROGRAM AND ALL THAT. 
          SO ONCE WE GET CONFIRMATION FROM THE SPONSOR COMMISSIONER,
THAT THEY'RE READY FOR THEIR ITEM, THAT THEY SIGN OFF ON THEIR ITEM BECAUSE IT'S ULTIMATELY THEIR,
THEIR, THEIR ITEM THAT THEY'RE SPONSORING, I'M NOT GOING TO BE PLACING IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO ONCE WE'RE READY FOR THAT, YOU LET STEPHANIE KNOW AND WE'LL,
WE'LL BRING IT BACK WITH THAT. 
          WE HAVE GONE THROUGH MANY ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA. 
          I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR YOUR COLLABORATION,
FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, FOR THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE DURING, DURING SPRING BREAK. I'D BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION OUR FIRE CHIEF,
DANA BELLA, WHO HAS BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE AND THE 66% REDUCTION IN INCIDENTS THAT DANA'S TEAM, THE CHIEF OF BELLA'S TEAM,
HAS HAD TO DEAL DURING SPRING BREAK. 
          IT'S INCREDIBLE THE INCREDIBLE PROGRESS THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CITY DURING THE MONTH OF
MARCH. 
          SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH THAT SACRIFICED TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF TIME FROM YOUR FAMILIES TO BE HERE, TO KEEP OUR VISITORS SAFE AND TO KEEP SUCH A GREAT,
POSITIVE VIBE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S IT. IT'S NOT LOST ON US AND ON THE RESIDENTS,
THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO ADJOURN TODAY'S MEETING WITH ALL WHO ARE CELEBRATING A MEANINGFUL
HOLY WEEK AS WE PREPARE FOR FOR EASTER, FOR OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY. CHUG. CHUG. PESACH. 
          MAYOR. IS THAT RIGHT, TANYA? THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. 
          A A MEANINGFUL PASSOVER AS THEY CELEBRATE THE LIBERATION FROM EGYPT. 
          AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN TODAY'S MEETING. 
          OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.