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WELCOME TO THE JULY 2026 FINANCE ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE MEETING, JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER LAURA DOMINGUEZ, COMMISSIONER DAVID SUAREZ.
HAVE A PRETTY PACKED AGENDA HERE, SO LET ME TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY CFO AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO GET THE FORMALITIES OUT OF THE WAY AND THEN WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND REMAINING MEMBERS, STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, VIRTUALLY, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY DIAL 1-888-475-4499 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 863-605-9-5462, OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 863-6059-5462.
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THANK YOU, CHAIR. WE JUST HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:10 FOR MB10, AND THE SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM MB13 IS DEFERRED.
OKAY, SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD
[NB 1. DISCUSS AN AMENDMENT EXTENSION TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND PADL, LLC. TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN KAYAK AND PADDLEBOARD RENTAL EQUIPMENT AND STATIONS.]
AND GET STARTED WITH NB1.OKAY. WE'RE GONNA CALL WATER SPORTS. CALL MB1 FIRST. MB1 DISCUSS AN AMENDMENT EXTENSION TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH AND PADDLE LLC TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN KAYAK AND POT PADDLE BOARD RENTAL EQUIPMENT AND STATIONS. NB1.
GOOD MORNING. I'M JOHN REBAR, FACILITIES, PARKS, FACILITIES, FLEET AND BEACHES DIRECTOR. I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE OUR PADDLE KIOSK AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE.
CAN WE JUST CLARIFY ON RECORD THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PADDLE? YES, I DON'T WANT TO START PADDLE GATE AGAIN AND.
OKAY, YEAH, THIS IS JUST WHAT, AN ACRONYM? YES, I WILL CLARIFY THIS.
I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PADDLE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ON THE LINCOLN ROAD ROOFTOP.
YES, THIS IS NOT THE RACKET SPORTS, SIR. THIS IS ACTUALLY STAND UP PADDLEBOARDS AND KAYAKS. JUST IMAGINE OUR CITY BIKE PROGRAM. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR PADDLEBOARDS AND KAYAKS AND THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
THEY'RE OUT AT PINE TREE PARK NOW. THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM HAVE BEEN GREAT. WE RECOMMEND STAYING WITH THIS COMPANY AND ALSO WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND IN OTHER LOCATIONS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.
AND WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OR COST OF EXPANSION? THIS IS NO COST TO THE CITY.
IT'S LIKE PASSIVE INCOME FOR THE CITY. THEY PUT THEM OUT HERE. THEY TAKE CARE OF 100% OF EVERYTHING. AND WE RECEIVED $14,259 OVER THE LAST WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE TO IT? WHO'S IN CHARGE OF PICKING ADDITIONAL EXPENSE EXPANSION SPOTS? OUR NEIGHBORS TYPICALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT OR DO THEY COMPLAIN? I JUST. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN PANDORA'S BOX AND GREAT. IF YOU HAVE OVERSIGHT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
YEAH. WE PARKS RECREATION WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER SPEAKING WITH CONSULTANT AND WE'VE DEALT WITH THE COMMUNITY A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE WATERFRONT AREAS AND IT WOULD NOT GO WE WOULDN'T EVEN SUGGEST ANYWHERE THAT WOULD BE A NUISANCE TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT'S WHY CURRENTLY IT'S AT PINE TREE PARK. THERE'S NO CONFLICTS WAS A PARK VIEW. WE HAVE SOME WATER QUALITY ISSUES THERE THAT ONCE THEY CLEAR UP AND NOW WE KNOW PERHAPS MAR PARK COULD BE THE NEXT INCREDIBLE.
SO, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A MOTION TO RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE WAVING BIDDING AND EXTENDING THE CURRENT AGREEMENT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SUAREZ SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[NB 10. DISCUSS A PROPOSED NEW AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS' BUREAU FOR DESTINATION MANAGEMENT SERVICES]
OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THE NB10 THE GMCVB. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S TIME AND SEE IF WE CAN HEAR THAT.THANK YOU. MB10 DISCUSSED A PROPOSED NEW AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU FOR DESTINATION MANAGEMENT SERVICES. MB10 STEVEN DAVID.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS TO DISCUSS THE AGREEMENT WITH THE GMCB. THIS IS FOR THE NEW CONTRACT. THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING A FEW A FEW THINGS. ONE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS SOME PROPOSED NEW TERMS TO THE EXISTING AGREEMENT.
POTENTIAL RESTRUCTURING A BIT OF THE OF THE FINANCIAL TERMS CONSIDERING A WAIVER OF
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COMPETITIVE BIDDING BECAUSE THE GMCB IS THE PRIMARY DESTINATION MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON BEHALF OF THE OF THE COUNTY AND THEN CONSIDERING POTENTIALLY HOW THINGS LAY OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO CONSIDER A MONTH TO MONTH EXTENSION IN ORDER TO KIND OF MOVE THIS MOVE THIS PROCESS FORWARD IN A IN A TIMELY WAY AS THE CONTRACT IS DUE AT THE END OF WELL COMES EXPIRED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOMMENDED. THE TERM STILL THE SAME AS WE KEPT BEFORE FIVE-YEAR TERM. WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED IS A POTENTIAL SLIDING SCALE WHERE THERE'S A RANGE NOW FROM 8 TO 15%. AND BASICALLY THIS IS, AND THIS IS BASED ON THE 2% OF THE RESORT TAX. SO, THIS GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE HIGHER THE RESORT TAX AND THE ABILITY OF THE GMCVB TO REALLY CONTRIBUTE, THIS GIVES THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE HIGHER REVENUE BASED ON HOW THE RESORT TAXES FALL.AND THEN IF, IF THERE IS A CHANCE WHERE RESORT TAXES ARE LOWER, THEN THEIR PERCENTAGE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD CORRESPOND ACCORDINGLY.
SO HIGHER PERCENTAGE, HIGHER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE, MAKE MORE MONEY ON THE LOWER END. IF THE RESORT TAXES DROP, THEN THEIR PERCENTAGE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
WHAT'S THE CURRENT BASE LEVEL? THE COURT.
SO, THE CURRENT BASE LEVEL IS 2% OF, OF THE, OF THE RESORT TAX. SO, IT'S, IT'S A FLAT 2% OF, WELL, 10% RATHER 10% OF THE 2% RESORT TAX. SO IT'S A FLAT 10% THAT THEY, THAT THEY MAKE CURRENTLY.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS, SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS, WOULD GO FROM 8 TO 15% DEPENDING ON WHERE THE RESORT TAXES FALL.
SO, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SLIDING SCALE OF WHERE THE RESORT TAXES WOULD FALL. SO, IF THEY, IF THE HIGHER THE PERCENTAGE OF THE RESORT TAX, THEN THEY COULD GET UP TO 15% OF THE RESORT TAX WITH A CAP.
BUT YOU CAN ONLY GO AS LOW AS 8%.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU GO DOWN TO 5%? IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP TO 05, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP TO 15%, ISN'T THAT MORE FAIR? LIKE WHAT LET'S SAY THERE'S A GOD FORBID ANOTHER COVID AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESORT TAXES, WE'RE STUCK PAYING 8%.
EVEN IF WE DON'T GO TO 5%, IF WE GO TO 8%, BUT THEN SOME SORT OF CAP ON THE UPSIDE. RIGHT. SO, IT SEEMS AS IF WE'RE GIVING PERHAPS MORE UPSIDE THAN SHARING THE LOSS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO TO 15% BUT A MAXIMUM CAP OF X WHERE.
SO, WE DO HAVE A CAP THAT WE RECOMMENDED UP TO 9 MILLION IS THE, IS THE CAP. AND SO YOU CAN GO UP TO 15%, BUT A CAP AT 9 MILLION IS WHAT IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
AND WHAT ARE WE CURRENT CURRENTLY AT 10% RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY AT 10%.
WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? SO, WHAT THE BASED ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT NUMBER WITH THEIR, THEIR INCENTIVE. SO, IT'S BEEN A BASE OF AROUND 7 MILLION.
LITTLE BIT OVER 7 MILLION OVER THE LAST, THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE INCENTIVE. THERE'S A $2 MILLION INCENTIVE THAT THEY, THAT THEY ALSO HAVE TOO SO THEY'VE QUALIFIED FOR THE INCENTIVE. SO, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OVER ABOUT 9 MILLION FOR THE LAST, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE SLIDING SCALE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT NOT IN FAVOR OF THE CAP. I KNOW THAT WE WANT, WE HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL THAT'S GOING TO BE OPENING SOON AND WE WANT ROBUST SALES AND HAVING THAT CONVENTION CENTER AND THE HOTEL BUILD AND A CAP WOULDN'T REALLY INCENTIVIZE. AND IF WE'RE ALREADY DECREASING FROM A FLAT FEE PERCENT TO A SCALE, I DON'T THINK THE CAP SHOULD BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT WHO'S TO SAY THAT THIS RESORT SALES ARE ALL COMING FROM THE GMTVB, RIGHT? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? IF WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR, IS IT REALLY THE GMCB THAT'S DOING IT? OR FOR EXAMPLE, IS IT FIFA OR IS IT AN EVENT THAT WE'RE THROWING AS A CITY COMMISSION? I MEAN, I'M ALL ABOUT INCENTIVES, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO REALLY PINPOINT DEMAND FROM, OR NOT DEMAND.
BUT IF THERE IS, IF THERE IS TERRORISM THAT IS, THAT IS IN FACT GENERATED FROM THE GMCV'S EFFORT, I'M OKAY WITH INCENTIVIZING THAT.
BUT NOT JUST A BLANK CHECK FOR SAYING ALL THE RESORT SALES.
MAYBE WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, MR. WHITAKER, I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF EVENTS. I WORKED WITH YOU ON THE, ON THE VCA.
IS THERE A WAY TO DETERMINE HOW IMPACTFUL THE GMCV IS?
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WELL, THE STAFF MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENT, BUT MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT OUR AGREEMENT HAS SOME VERY DETAILED METRICS WHICH WE APPRECIATE AND WE'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO. THERE'S BOOKINGS, THERE'S GOALS FOR BOOKING MEETINGS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, THERE'S GOALS FOR ROOM NIGHTS, THERE'S GOALS FOR MEDIA IMPRESSIONS.THE GMCV IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR BOOKINGS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, THE MAJOR CONVENTIONS.
ANYTHING WITHIN A 12-MONTH WINDOW OR 16 MONTH WINDOW IS IN SMALL, RELATIVELY SMALL. WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN HOUSE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. IT'D BE RELATIVELY SMALL, LESS THAN 250 PEOPLE. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BIG CONVENTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SOLICITED AND HELD.
CAN YOU GIVE ME, CAN YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE NAMES? ADOBE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY LAURA, THANK YOU. A MEMBER OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SO YOU KNOW, ADOBE'S COMING BACK.
THAT'S PROBABLY ONE THAT WE'RE MOST PROUD OF. SWIFT SIBOS IS THE BIGGEST INTERNATIONAL BANKING CONVENTION IN THE WORLD, HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WE WERE ABLE, AND AGAIN IT'S PART OF.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE GMCVB.
SO, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, WHICH I RESPECT, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NEVER SAYING, HEY, IT'S ALL US. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING. WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LOWE'S, THE FONTAINEBLEAU.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MAJOR EVENTS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY THAT BRINGS EXCITEMENT TO THE CITY THAT WE HELP MARKET AND PROMOTE. WE NOT NECESSARILY TAKING CREDIT FOR BRINGING THEM HERE, BUT THE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE HAVE TO. YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GENERATING, THERE'S DOZENS OF METRICS BOTH IN THE MARKETING TEAM THAT WE HAVE WITH THE STAFF HERE WHO ARE FANTASTIC PARTNERS AND THE CONVENTION SALES TEAM. AND WE REVIEW THOSE METRICS WEEKLY, MONTHLY. THAT'S PART OF THE INCENTIVE. IF WE ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS, WE GET THAT EXTRA MILLION. IF WE ACHIEVE THE COMMISSION SALES GOAL, WE GET AN EXTRA MILLION IF WE ACHIEVE THE MARKETING GOALS. BUT THE FOCUS FOR ALL OF US IS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DESTINATION GROW.
AVERAGE DAILY RATE INCREASE, OCCUPANCY INCREASE TO THE POINT WHERE THE RESORT TAX KEEPS GROWING. WHEN IT GROWS BECAUSE OF OUR EFFORTS AND OTHERS, THEN WE SHARE IN THAT GROWTH TO SOME EXTENT. THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIMITING THAT GROWTH.
AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE GREAT PARTNERS WITH THE CITY. WE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES THE CITY'S FACING. WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO WANT TO BE A GREAT PARTNER AND COLLABORATE WHERE WE CAN TO HELP GET OVER ANY KIND OF CHALLENGE.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST TO MARKET AND PROMOTE AND SELL THE CITY WITH THE GREAT RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING.
AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S 10% OF THE 2%, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LOOK, I THINK IT SHOULD GO BOTH WAYS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO UP 5%, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO DOWN 5% FOR WHATEVER REASON. I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S FAIR. AS FAR AS A CAP, I DON'T KNOW, $9 MILLION IS A LOT, BUT IF IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF MONEY, I COULD BE OPEN TO IT. SO I'D HAVE TO SPEAK WITH STAFF A LITTLE BIT BEFORE.
IF I COULD ADD A LITTLE COLOR.
EXHIBIT A OF THE ATTACHMENT DOES SHOW A MODEL THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RAN TO SHOW THE PRIOR MODEL VERSUS THE PROPOSED MODEL. LOOKING AT THE 2025 CLOSED OUT NUMBERS. SO IN 2025 THEY COLLECTED APPROXIMATELY $9.1 MILLION IN REVENUE. IF THIS NEW FEE STRUCTURE WAS PUT IN PLACE WITH A SLIDING 8 TO 15, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $8.2 MILLION.
SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT 950,000, LET'S SAY LESS REVENUE THAN MONEY THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP. SO THEY WOULD HAVE GROWTH FROM THAT 8.2 UP TO 9 MILLION. JUST, JUST SO FROM TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE.
SO THE SLIDING SCALE THAT YOU KNOW, WE WORKED ON, AND I WAS INVOLVED IN A BIT WHEN RAN THROUGH THAT MODEL, THAT SLIDING SCALE OF THE 8 TO 15 ACTUALLY DOES BRING DOWN THEIR, THEIR REVENUE OR THE CITY'S EXPENDITURE TO THEM FROM ABOUT 9.1 TO 8.2. SO IT DOES SAVE THE MONEY. SAVE THE CITY MONEY.
YEAH. BUT ONCE THE CONVENTION CENTER OPENS, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
CORRECT? WE WOULD EXPECT RESORT TAX REVENUES TO GO UP. YES, BUT THIS IS, I THINK WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR THE NINE MILLION DOLLAR CAP THAT WAS RECOMMENDED. IT WOULD GIVE THEM SOME RUNWAY, BUT THEN IT WOULD PUT A CAP ON BECAUSE THIS AGREEMENT'S FOR A FEW YEARS AND OBVIOUSLY BE SOMETHING THAT'D BE LOOKED AT EVERY TIME THAT THE AGREEMENT WAS UP FOR RENEWAL AND PROBABLY SETTING A NEW CAP.
OKAY, WHAT ELSE? AND IF WE COULD USE THE TERM LIMITING GROWTH.
AND THE REVENUE WE CURRENTLY PAY IS NOT AROUND $9 MILLION.
THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THEIR BASE AND THE INCENTIVE.
AND HOW WOULD THEY ESSENTIALLY BE ABLE TO ECLIPSE THE 10% REVENUE SHARE? TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SLIDING SCALE, THE HURDLES, AND MILESTONES THAT THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE.
SO IT'S IN MR. WHITAKER MENTIONED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT METRICS THAT ARE THERE. SO, THE NUMBER OF OKAY, THAT WAS WHAT YOU SAID.
BOOKINGS, NUMBER OF TOTAL BOOKINGS, THE ROOM NIGHTS, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED PARTS OF THE METRICS. THERE'S ALSO A
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MARKETING METRIC. SO HOW THEY'RE MARKETING, SO DIFFERENT PARTS IN TERMS OF IMPRESSIONS AND, AND SO FORTH IS ALSO PART OF, PART OF THEIR METRICS AS WELL.BUT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT HERE, USE THE TERM LIMITING GROWTH.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY IF YOU HAVE A FLAT 10%, OF COURSE YOUR GROWTH WOULD BE LIMITED THERE. WELL, I MEAN I, I THINK WE'RE REALLY KIND OF LETTING THE, LETTING YOU REALLY RUN HERE GOING UP TO A 15% REVENUE SHARE.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD NEVER USE THAT WORD BECAUSE I DON'T JUST SEE IT IN THE NUMBERS. I WOULD DEFER TO THE STAFF WHO AGAIN WE FULLY SUPPORT THE COLLABORATION WE START AND DARE I SAY HAIRCUT.
WE START WITH A HAIRCUT AND THEN WE MOVE ON AND GROW WHEN THE CITY GROWS. AND WE LOVE THE INCENTIVIZATION OF GROWING WITH THE CITY.
WHY DO YOU START WITH A HAIRCUT? NO, NO, I MEAN LIKE OBVIOUSLY NOT.
THE CFO MENTIONED THAT THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS AGREEMENT, WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 800, 900,000 LESS TO START THE, TO START. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE LIMITS IN. THE CITY'S GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND WE WANT TO BE GREAT PARTNERS.
IF I MAY ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ONCE THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL OPENS UP, RIGHT? YES. JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE RESORT TAX, IF YOU GO BACK TO 22, THEY COLLECTED ABOUT 7.5, THEN IT WENT UP TO 9.4, 9.1, 9.1. SO THERE'S BEEN GROWTH SINCE 22.
AND I THINK, AND THINK AS MR. WHITAKER HAS EXPLAINED AND OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION, WE'RE JUST LOOKING ANYWHERE FOR THE CITY TO SAVE WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN REVENUES.
THERE'S A $9 MILLION CAP FOR THIS FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR CAP.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S TO HELP FROM A, FROM A SAVINGS ASPECT.
BUT IF THERE'S A CAP OF 9 MILLION AND THEY'VE BEEN MAKING 9 MILLION FOR THE PREVIOUS FOUR YEARS MINUS THE LAST ONE, WHERE'S THE INCENTIVE? WELL, OUR INCENTIVE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOALS TO BOOK THE CONVENTION CENTER LOTS.
I'M JUST SAYING WHY ARE WE GOING TO 15% IF IT'S, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GO PAST NINE AND MAKE THIS DEAL.
SO, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT MOVING, MOVING THE CAP. BUT THE IDEA IS IF THEY CAN GO UP TO 15% AND THERE'S, I WOULDN'T, WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE IS TO LOOK AT, IF WE REMOVE THE CAP, THEN THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE MAY BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF THEY CAN GO UP TO 15% WITH NO CAP, THEN THERE'S, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY KIND OF.
STEVEN, MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, WE'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING DOLLAR INCENTIVE.
MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLAR INCENTIVE AND WHAT ARE THE ASPECTS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH TO EARN THAT $1 MILLION INCENTIVE.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER, I MEAN THE OTHER ASPECT OF BEING ABLE TO CURRENTLY THEY CAN MAKE UP TO $2 MILLION IN THE, IN THEIR INCENTIVE. AND SO THE IDEA OF WHAT WE SUGGESTED ALSO IS TO REDUCE THE 2 MILLION TO 1 MILLION. BUT THE SAME THING IN TERMS OF THE METRICS, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF BOOKINGS THAT HAS TO BE PICKED OUT, THE NUMBER OF ROOM NIGHTS THAT HAVE TO BE BOOKED, THE MARKETING, THERE'S MARKETING METRICS THAT HAVE TO BE MET IN ORDER TO EARN THOSE EARN THAT LEVEL OF INCENTIVE. THE LAST FEW YEARS, THAT INCENTIVE HAS BEEN HIT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO THAT TOTAL. TOTAL 9 MILLION.
BUT IF THERE'S, THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL MAKE THAT AMOUNT.
MAKE UP TO THAT. UP TO THAT AMOUNT IN TOTAL.
DO YOU MIND IF WE DEFER THIS? SEE IT AS AN INCENTIVE EITHER WHEN YOU HAVE A CAP WHERE THEY CAN'T MAKE MORE.
THIS YEAR WAS A. SHOULD BE A PHENOMENAL YEAR. WE HAD THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP, WE HAD FIFA FORMULA ONE. NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE'LL STILL HAVE FORMULA ONE, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR EVENTS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS YEAR ARE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. HAVING A SLIDING SCALE. OKAY, FINE. BUT HAVING A CAP IS NOT AN INCENTIVE.
CAN WE DEFER THIS FOR ONE MEETING? AND THEN IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF AND DAVID A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A. I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS WITH WHAT THE KPIS ARE AND HOW WE CAN REALLY INCENTIVIZE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S INCENTIVIZED. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL A LITTLE SORT OF UNCLEAR ABOUT EXACTLY HOW GMCVB IMPACTS THE CITY.
I THINK WE STILL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY BECAUSE IF THEIR AGREEMENT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER AND IF WE DEFER THIS, WE WON'T HEAR IT AT FINANCE UNTIL SEPTEMBER. SO A MOTION NEEDS TO BE PUT FORTH AT LEAST THAT WE KEEP IT MONTH TO MONTH. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THROUGH
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DECEMBER.IF THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO KEEP IT HERE AND BE HEARD AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA THAT WE WOULD RETAIN THE ITEM BUT HAVE IT RETURNED TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS THROUGH DECEMBER AS, AS, AS PRESENTED.
SO I THINK I, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT. IS THAT AS AMENDED OR IS THAT.
NO, I, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE TO.
FOR THE ITEM TO BE RETAINED AND TO RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVOR RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT, THE, THE EXISTING AGREEMENT ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
COMMISSIONER, UH, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SPEAK.
WE'RE TO DEFER, BUT FEEL FREE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. REAL QUICK.
YOU DO A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A SWEET SPOT WHERE WE HAVE GLOBAL ATTENTION. WITH WORLD CUP AND ALL EYES ARE ON MIAMI BEACH AND OCEAN DRIVE. AND WE'VE HAD RECORD NUMBERS HERE AND OUR RESORT TAXES ARE WONDERFUL AND THAT IS WHAT KEEPS OUR TAX BASE LOW.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL THAT YOU DO AND I'M INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING YOU AND HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE CAN KEEP OUR FOOT ON THE GAS PEDAL.
OKAY, SO WE'LL SHOW THAT RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION TO 12-31-2026 AND THE EXISTING AGREEMENT IS PRESENTED AND RETURN TO FERC FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. THAT WAS COMMISSIONER SUAREZ MADE THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[OB 1. GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO RFP 2023-115-KB FOR MIXED-USE REDEVELOPMENT INCORPORATING CLASS A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1940 PARK AVENUE (THE BARCLAY)]
ONE. THE BARKLEY.OB1 GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO RFP 2023115 KB FOR MIXED USE REDEVELOPMENT INCORPORATING CLASS A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1940 PARK AVENUE, THE BARCLAY. OB1.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO THIS, THIS ITEM OF COURSE CONCERNS THE PROPOSED LONG TERM GROUND LEASE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OWNED BARCLAY PROPERTY AT 1940 PARK AVENUE.
THAT SITE HAS REMAINED INACTIVE AND FENCED OFF FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER A DECADE NOW. AND SO THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE GROUND LEASE IS BASICALLY A CULMINATION OF OUR FOUR YEARS COMPETITIVE TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH THE FORMER RFP, EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE REVIEW AND THE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE MATERIAL LEASE TERMS THAT WAS, THAT WAS APPROVED BY BOTH THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR. SO THE GROUND LEASE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH MEMBERS OF THE CERTAINLY OF STAFF SPANS 99 YEARS, 51 YEAR INITIAL GROUND LEASE WITH TWO DEVELOPER OPTIONS EXTENSIONS. THE DEVELOPER WOULD ASSUME ALL FULL COST AND RESPONSIBILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, FINANCING, PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION, OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, TAX, INSURANCE WITHOUT ANY CITY SUBSIDY ON THOSE, ON THOSE PARTS. AND SO ALSO THERE'S AFFORDABILITY, THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENTS HERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THE GROUND LEASE. SO TO 22% OF THE 105 UNITS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED WOULD, WOULD BE FOR SET ASIDE FOR PART OF IT FOR SENIORS. SO SEVEN UNITS FOR, FOR SENIORS IN AT LEAST 15 UNITS WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR RESTRICTED RENTS THAT ARE CAPPED AT 106% OF AMI OR MARKET RATE, WHICHEVER IS LOWER. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY A PART OF THAT. AND THEN THIS, THESE COVENANTS WOULD GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE TERM OF THE, OF THE LEASE THERE.
THE DEVELOPER WOULD MAKE A ONE TIME UPFRONT PAYMENT OF $2 MILLION WHILE THE CITY RETAINS LAND OWNERSHIP OF, OF THE OPPORTUNITY THERE. AND SO THOSE ARE THE, THE MATERIAL PIECES THERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN THE GROUND LEASE AND.
THANK YOU, STEPHEN. I KNOW THIS WAS HEARD AT THE PLANNING BOARD YESTERDAY. I WAS TUNING IN AND OUT AND JUST GIVEN HOW QUICKLY THAT OVERLAP WAS IS THERE AND APOLOGIES IF THIS ISN'T YOUR WHEELHOUSE. IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO KIND OF SURMISE.
YOU DON'T HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THAT, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM STAFF JUST KIND OF REHASH HOW THAT WENT WHERE WE STAND NOW.
SURE. SO THERE WAS THE PLANNING BOARD GAVE FEDERAL FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR BOTH THE LDR AMENDMENTS AND THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL PIECES THERE FOR THE TAX AMENDMENTS. LDR AND TAX AMENDMENTS FOR TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE SETBACKS. I BELIEVE.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD GAVE A FEDERAL RECOMMENDATION
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TO MOVE THAT PIECE OF IT FORWARD.SO THE HOUSING UNIT MIX WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. ALL OF THAT IS IN DISCUSSION. OTHER COMMITTEES, WE'RE JUST FOCUSED HERE ON THE FINANCIAL TERMS OF THAT.
AND THIS WAS NEGOTIATED JUST BY YOUR OFFICE WAS OUR FACILITIES TEAM, OZZY, AND HIS TEAM WHO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG. SO THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS.
TALK TO ME KIND OF LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AND THEN WHERE THIS GOES FROM HERE.
THIS HAS BEEN LED BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE WITH THE CAO'S OFFICE WHO CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED A TON TO BEING ABLE TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THE GROUND LEASE AND REALLY DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS TO GET IT TO THIS POINT. AND SO FROM THIS POINT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IF THERE'S A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD THEN TAKE THIS IN FRONT OF THE FULL COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER.
HOW QUICK CAN THIS GET DONE? RIGHT. I MEAN THIS IS AN EYESORE. I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE BEFORE I WAS EVEN ON THE PLANNING BOARD BEFORE BEING ELECTED. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND MOROSE. THERE WAS A.
BEFORE THIS GENTLEMAN GOT INVOLVED, THERE WAS A BODY FOUND THERE.
RIGHT. AND THIS WAS ON THE NEWS. THE NEIGHBORS ARE LIKE PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE.
LIKE WHAT IS THIS DOING? SO THIS GETS APPROVED. HOW QUICKLY CAN WE MOVE FORWARD NOT ONLY FOR GETTING RID OF THAT BLIGHT AND EYESORE BUT ALSO FOR AN ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION OF THAT AREA AND BRINGING MUCH NEEDED MIDDLE CLASS HOUSING.
ABSOLUTELY. I'M SURE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS HERE CAN SPEAK TO. CAN SPEAK TO THAT ASPECT OF IT. PARTS OF THE GROUND LEASE ACTUALLY DO GIVE. GIVE THAT TO. WE CAN MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER FOR THIS PROJECT AND BE ABLE TO GET IT. GET IT IN GROUND AND DONE AS. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I'M SURE THEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT TIMELINE.
THE GROUND LEASE AT THIS POINT IS.
DONAHUE PEEBLES III LEGACY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AND REALLY A PLEASURE TO SEE EVERYBODY. THE GROUND LEASE IS MATERIALLY NEGOTIATED AND SHOULD BE IN A PLACE PENDING THIS COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL IN THE SUBSEQUENT TWO READINGS BY THE CITY COMMISSION TO BE EXECUTED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
WE'RE TARGETING SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER FROM THERE. THE PROJECT'S FULLY CAPITALIZED.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF LP OPTIONS THAT WILL BE SOLIDIFIED AND FINALIZED ONCE WE HAVE SITE CONTROL AND A BINDING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LENDERS THAT HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS FROM A CONSTRUCTION FINANCING PERSPECTIVE AND AS OF TODAY, ARE EXCITED TO ISSUE TERM SHEETS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME BEHIND THIS PODIUM SPEAKING, SPEAKING TO THE DAIS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE WILL DO.
I PROMISE I CAN SHOW YOU BETTER THAN I CAN TELL YOU. AND YOU KNOW, AS MY, MY SOUTHERN FRIENDS SAY, I'M SITTING ON G, WAITING ON O. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
WHAT PROTECTIONS DO WE HAVE AS A CITY THAT THIS MOVES FORWARD? AND WHILE THAT SOUNDS GREAT, WE KNOW REALITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PREPARE NOT FOR WHAT WE EXPECT, BUT IN DOWN SIDE. WHAT PROTECTIONS DO WE HAVE MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD? YEAH, SO, AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S BEEN OUR, OUR LEGAL TEAM, OUR, THE CEO HAS CERTAINLY WORKED THROUGH A TON OF THOSE PIECES IN TERMS OF WHAT'S. WHAT'S THERE AND GIVES US THE CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE BACK OR WORK THROUGH ANYTHING IN THE CASE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CANNOT MOVE FORWARD.
RICK, ANY THOUGHTS THERE IN THE AGREEMENT, ARE THERE INCENTIVES TO MOVE FORWARD? SURE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OUTSIDE DATES THAT HAVE TO BE MET BY THE DEVELOPER.
AND THE CITY HAS ITS USUAL DEFAULT REMEDIES, PROVIDE NOTICE, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO CURE. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THE CITY COULD TAKE OVER THE PROJECT, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO. SO I DON'T WANT THAT AS OUR ONLY DOWNSIDE PROTECTION IF YOU WILL.
DO WE HAVE INCENTIVES? I BELIEVE WE HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR.
SO WE DID BUILD IN A LAYER OF PROTECTION, UNDERSTANDING FULLY THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING IT OURSELVES.
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THERE'S SUNSET CLAUSES. SO IF THEY DON'T MEET THOSE DATES, THEN THE DEAL IS OFF.
THERE ARE OUTSIDE DATES THAT NEED TO BE MET, AND FOR SOME OF THOSE, THE PENALTIES, IF YOU WILL, ARE NOT AS SEVERE.
BUT ONCE THEY'RE IN CONSTRUCTION, THEY MUST HIT CERTAIN DATES. IF THEY DON'T, THEN LIQUIDATED DAMAGES KICK
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IN FOR A PERIOD OF 365 DAYS AND AFTER THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE.WHEN IS CONSTRUCTION SUPPOSED TO START? I DO NOT KNOW THE OUTSIDE DATES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALFREDO OR STEVEN CAN.
GOOD MORNING, ALFREDO GONZALEZ, ON BEHALF OF 1940 BARCLAY PARTNERS LLC.
RIGHT NOW WE'VE VERY STARTED THE ENTITLEMENT BECAUSE AS PART OF GETTING THIS LEASE APPROVED AND NOT WAITING UNTIL THE LEASES EXECUTED YESTERDAY AT THE PLANNING BOARD YOU WERE ASKING THREE ITEMS WERE ON THE AGENDA.
THE LEASE, THE TERMS THAT WAS FAVORABLY RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE OTHER TWO ITEM WAS THE COMP PLAN AND LAND USE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY TO THEN ULTIMATELY MOVE TO PLANS.
THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER FOR FIRST READING.
SO THAT ALSO GOT UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
IT ALLOWS A GREATER DENSITY, SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY USE THE FAR.
SO WHEN WOULD CONSTRUCTION BEGIN? ABOUT 18 MONTHS AFTER WE GET ENTITLEMENTS. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PREPARING STARTING. WE GOT SITE ACCESS AND 2028, 2020.
I THINK ALFREDO'S RIGHT IN THAT 18 MONTHS IS TYPICALLY WHAT THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS TAKES FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS ONE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH. MY GOAL IS TO GET THAT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. IT WON'T BE, IT WON'T BE DUE TO OUR INACTION OR OUR FAILURE TO PUSH DESIGN FORWARD OR OUR FAILURE TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WITH WHOM WE'VE DEVELOPED A DEEP AND SUBSTANTIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT CAUSES THESE SORTS OF DELAYS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LAYERS OF APPROVALS, AS YOU ALL ARE INTIMATELY AWARE, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH.
BUT WE INTEND ON DOING THAT AS QUICKLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
AND WE'RE INCENTIVIZED TO DO THAT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, I NOR OUR CAPITAL PARTNERS ARE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY. SO THERE IS A TIMING COMPONENT AND THERE'S NOBODY MORE INCENTIVIZED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD THAN I AM.
THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I LOOK AT YOU AS OUR PARTNER. SO WHEN I'M ASKING THESE PROTECTIONS, IT'S NOT IN AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S. SO I HOPE WE'RE ALIGNED AND BEING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
YEAH, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE IN PER THE, JUST PER THE TERMS. THE.
THERE'S A 2029 CONSTRUCTION FINISH. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ESTIMATE OF WHERE, OF WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS AGREED. THAT, YOU KNOW.
AND WHEN DOES THAT PAYMENT THAT'S DUE TO THE CITY? IS THAT A UPFRONT BALLOON PAYMENT? THAT IS AN UPFRONT PAYMENT THAT'S DUE UPON POSSESSION.
LET'S DO UPON POSSESSION OF THE LAND OR THE TCO.
WHEN. WHEN IS BUILDING TCO? I BELIEVE IT'S SIMULTANEOUS WITH CONSTRUCTION COMMENCEMENT.
OH, OKAY. SO THAT ACTUALLY IT'S STILL EASY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GET THEIR, THEIR ENTITLEMENTS FIRST AND BUILDING PERMIT. ONCE THEY HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER POSSESSION CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE SATISFIED, SUCH AS PROVIDING PROOF OF FINANCING A ETC. AND THEN THEY TAKE POSSESSION AND MAKE THE PAYMENT.
SO THAT'S AN INHERENT PROTECTION TO THE CITY IN ITSELF WHERE IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T HIT THESE DEADLINES OR WALKS AWAY FROM THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT JUST BECOMES TOO DIFFICULT, THEY'RE OUT THAT $2 MILLION. SO THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED TO GET THAT DONE.
SO IF, IF WE'RE SATISFIED, I THINK WE WOULD RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, APPROVE THE PROPOSED GROUND LEASE AS PRESENTED. IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
IT'S EXCITING, RIGHT? IT'S. IT'S YEARS IN THE MAKING. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S CONTINUE ON THIS TRACK AND HOPEFULLY GET AROUND THE CORNER.
[NB 4. A DISCUSSION REGARDING A DESIGN CONCEPT AND GENERAL TERMS FOR A PROPOSED PUBLIC/PRIVATE IMPROVEMENT, MANAGEMENT, AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT (THE “AGREEMENT”) FOR AN INITIAL TERM OF TWENTY (20) YEARS BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH (THE “CITY”) AND MAC 719 LR, LLC, MAC 723 LL, LLC, AND MAC 723, LLC (“MAC” OR THE “TENANT”) FOR LINCOLN LANE NORTH, BETWEEN MERIDIAN AVENUE AND MERIDIAN COURT.]
IT'S HERE. NB4 NOLI. AND AS THE TEAM'S COMING UP, I'LL PREFACE IT WITH ANOTHER EXCITING KIND OF REVITALIZATION FOR SOMETHING WE ALL TALK ABOUT IN EXCITING FASHION IS LINCOLN ROAD. AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS ADDED DYNAMIC. MR. CFO, TURN IT OVER TO YOU.THANK YOU. MB4 DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DESIGN. A DESIGN CONCEPT IN GENERAL TERMS FOR PROPOSED PUBLIC PRIVATE IMPROVEMENT, MANAGEMENT, AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. THE AGREEMENT FOR AN INITIAL TERM OF 20 YEARS BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, THE CITY AND MAC 719 LR LLC. MAC 723 LLC AND MAX 723 LLC. MAC OR THE TENANT AND LINCOLN FOR LINCOLN ROAD NORTH BETWEEN MERIDIAN AVENUE AND MERIDIAN COURT. AND BEFORE.
AND OZZY, BEFORE YOU TAKE OVER, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE LIKE CYA IF YOU WILL BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER KIND OF SAID, HEY, WE'RE 95% OF THE WAY THERE, PERHAPS NOT 100% OF THE WAY THERE. I SAID,
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ESPECIALLY WITH OUR AUGUST BREAK, I WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS MOVE FORWARD IN A QUICK FASHION.ALWAYS PROTECTING OURSELVES IN THE CITY. BUT IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND. I TOLD YOU I UNDERSTAND YOUR TEAM WOULDN'T BE READY TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE HAVE A HUNDRED OF THINGS SIGNED OFF ON. IF WE WERE THE FULL COMMISSION, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FELT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT GIVEN WE'RE A COMMITTEE, WE HAVE TWO MONTHS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. I THINK IF WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE HIGH LEVEL STUFF, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT 5% OF DETAILS THAT YOU AND THE PROJECT TEAM ESSENTIALLY ARE STILL GOING TO NEGOTIATE AND HEAR OUT IF WE CAN GET 95% OF THE WAY THERE, GIVE YOU TWO MONTHS TO GET THE OTHER 5% ACROSS, CROSS THE FINISH LINE WITH THE PROJECT SPONSOR AND THEN THOSE DETAILS ARE HEARD IN FULL AT THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT'S THE TACT THAT I WANTED TO MOVE AGAIN TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS REMAIN ON A STEADY TIME FRAME USING THE BARCLAYS. AN EXAMPLE I.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BECOME THE NORM IN OUR CITY. WOULD NEVER ADVOCATE DOING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, IS NOT FULLY BAKED OR PREPARED FOR.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON THOSE 95%. RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOUR TEAM ONLY ARE NEGOTIATING THE OTHER 5% THAT'LL KIND OF BE FINALIZED BY THE FULL COMMISSION. SO I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS ABOUT SITTING UP THERE SAYING WE'RE NOT AT THE FINISH LINE YET.
WE'VE HAD THAT TALK AND I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT.
OZZY DOMINGUEZ DIVISION DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH THE NOLY PROJECT IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT FOR THIS AREA OF NORTH LINCOLN LANE. WE STARTED OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH A COMRADES COMPANY WHO IS SPEARHEADING THIS AS A DEVELOPER A FEW MONTHS AGO AND WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON REVISIONS TO THE TERM SHEET. THERE ARE STILL SOME FUNDAMENTAL AND MATERIAL TERM POINTS IN THE TERM SHEET THAT WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED TO AN AGREEMENT.
HIGH LEVEL, WHAT DO IN GENERAL, WHAT'S THE THEME OR PREMISE OF SOME OF THOSE? WHERE ARE YOU STUCK? DOES IT JUST TAKE TIME? IS THERE MATERIAL DISAGREEMENTS LIKE HIGH LEVEL? WHAT ARE THE THEMES OF ALL THREE QUESTIONS? PJ IF YOU CAN PLEASE HAVE A ONE PAGE POWERPOINT THAT JUST HIGHLIGHTS WHAT THE MORE HIGH LEVEL FUNDAMENTAL POINTS ARE HERE.
THE FIRST TWO ARE CRITICAL AS FAR AS WE CAN. WE'RE CONCERNED THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR A COVENANT IN LIEU.
THIS IS WHAT'S OUTSTANDING OR OUTSTANDING. OKAY.
THERE'S SOME OTHER MINOR AREAS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLEAR UP. BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE BIG BIGGEST HURDLES FOR US THAT WE REALLY GOT TO IRON OUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, LEAVING COMMITTEE.
BUT THE COVENANT IN LIEU OF UNITY OF TITLE AND THE COVENANT RUNNING WITH THE, WITH THE LAND ARE TWO BIG ITEMS FOR US. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS CITY OWNED FEE SIMPLE FOLIOS THAT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO SELL OR LEASE OR DEVELOP ON IN THE FUTURE IF THEY WISH.
AND BY TYING UP OUR TITLE IN PERPETUITY WITH THE LENGTH OF THIS AGREEMENT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD WE EVER DO THERE? BECAUSE I'M NOT.
THIS ISN'T YOU. THIS IS COLLECTIVELY ON THE CITY.
I GO THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE A BOMB WAS DROPPED OUT THERE. SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SAY I DON'T LIKE BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING OH MY GOSH, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS TIES OUR HANDS.
WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS AMAZING STUFF. I'M EMBARRASSED WALKING BY THE. I WANT TO GET OUT OF THAT AREA. SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE.
WOULD WE TIE OUR HANDS? OF COURSE. BUT TELL ME UNDER ANY REALISTIC SCENARIO HOW WE DON'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST LET THIS CONTINUE TO DEGRADE AND DETERIORATE.
LIKE WHAT ARE WE TYING. I KNOW IN LEGALITY, BUT IN PRACTICALITY WHAT WOULD WE DO THERE THAT WE'RE TYING OUR HANDS? MR. CHAIR, I AGREE WITH YOU.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFICATION OF THIS AREA OF NORTH LINCOLN LANE. I KNOW THAT YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE, THE LINCOLN ROAD BID IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PART OF THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO LINCOLN ROAD INCLUDED NORTH AND SOUTH LINCOLN LANES WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THOSE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PLANS FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR PROJECTS OF THIS AREA.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST BE CLEAR IN THE COMMUNITY MISSION.
UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE ENTER INTO A COVENANT IN LIEU OF TITLE, IT WILL TIE OUR HANDS FOR ANYTHING WE DECIDE TO DO IN THE FUTURE. AND MAYBE TODAY WE'RE NOT THINKING OF THAT, WE'RE NOT PLANNING OF THAT.
WE, WE'RE FACED WITH SOME BUDGET CUTS.
BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT WITHOUT TYING THE CITY'S HANDS ON, ON ITS PRIVATE ASSETS. AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE REALLY WANT
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TO FOCUS AND HIGHLIGHT.WHEN YOU SAY ASSETS, WE'RE TALKING LIKE THE STREET THE LINK.
DAVID MARTINEZ ISN'T CITY MANAGER. JUST TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAR HAS A MARKET VALUE FOR THIS PROPERTY OF $5 MILLION. THAT PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED, CAN BE RENTED, CAN BE VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS CAN BE DONE UNDER THAT STRETCH.
WHEN YOU SAY PROPERTY, THIS, THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WITH THIS STRETCH OF PROPERTY. WE KIND OF JOKE THAT IT, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK. IT MUST BE A DUCK.
BUT IT ISN'T. IT LOOKS LIKE A RIGHT OF WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE A ROAD. IT IS A ROAD.
IT'S BEEN USED THAT WAY. BUT IT'S A FEE SIMPLE FOLIO PROPERTY THAT IS DEVELOPABLE.
IT HAS ZERO LOT LINE SETBACKS, IS JUST OVER A QUARTER ACRE.
AND IT'S A DEVELOPABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IF WE PROCEED WITH A COVENANT IN LIEU OF THE UNITY AND SEE THE ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT WILL TIE IT UP IN PERPETUITY.
SO NOW IN PRACTICALITY AND NICK, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. I HAVE TENDED TO NOTICE YOU DON'T JUST COME BECAUSE YOU ENJOY SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW. SO JUMP IN AT YOUR WILL. WOULD WE EVER JUST DEVELOP THAT KIND OF IN A VACUUM? I MEAN, WOULDN'T WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE EITHER THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OR TO THE SOUTH? UNLESS WE WOULD JUST LIKE DEVELOP THE STREET, IF YOU WILL.
I MEAN, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE ATTORNEYS. MY OPINION IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. IT IS A, IT'S A VACANT LOT.
FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES. IT JUST HAPPENS THAT CITY OWNS A ROAD.
BUT IT'S THE SIDEWALK, IT'S THE WIDTH OF TWO WAY STREET, ONE WAY STREET, IT'S PLUS THE SIDEWALK. SO WE GO TO THE, THE PROPERTY IS FROM ROUGHLY THE FACE OF THE BUILDINGS WITH THE OVERHANGS ON THE NORTH SIDE TO THE FACE OF THE BUILDINGS ROUGHLY TO THE BACK OF SIDEWALK THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO YOU KNOW, IN THEORY SOMETHING COULD BE DONE THERE.
BUT WHAT LIKE, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ADVERSARIAL, LIKE WHAT COULD BE DONE? THE AREA IS ACTUALLY THE SAME SIZE AS ANY OTHER LOT ON THAT BLOCK. SO IT IS A PLATTED LOT. NOW IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A ROADWAY, BUT ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT IT IS THE SAME SIZE AS A DEVELOPABLE LOT.
RIGHT, BUT TALK TO ME JUST IN LAYMAN'S, LET'S BE PRACTICAL HERE. LET'S SAY WE'RE URBAN PLANNERS. I SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT GUYS, LET'S DO SOMETHING COOL THERE IN OUR OWN. WHAT WOULD WE DO? LIKE WOULD WE BUILD ANOTHER PARALLEL LINCOLN ROAD? WOULD WE BUILD HOUSING THERE? WHAT COULD.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE SKY'S THE LIMIT, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S THE IMAGINATION. I MEAN IT COULD BE A LINEAR PARK, IT COULD BE CERTAIN STRUCTURES BUILT ON IT. IT COULD BE FOR ART, IT COULD BE FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. IT, IT AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER ON THIS IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD. IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A BID WAIVER BY COMMISSION. IT'S ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE A 6, 7 VOTE, 6, 7TH VOTE BY COMMISSION FOR A CONCESSION AGREEMENT THAT'S OVER 10 YEARS. SO IT HAS A FEW HURDLES TO GO THROUGH. IF, LET'S JUST SAY THIS PROPOSAL WAS NOT ON THE TABLE, THE CITY COULD ELECT TO PUT OUT AN RFLI OR AN RFP FOR SOMEBODY WANTING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT STRETCH OF ROAD AND IMAGINATION COULD BE ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING, AS OZZY STATED, IS A FUNDAMENTAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WE HAVE TO GET BY. THE REST OF EVERYTHING ELSE IS MORE NEGOTIATING TERMS AND AGREEING ON HOW LONG AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. BUT WE HAVE TO GET PAST THAT PART. DOES THE CITY WANT TO BIND THAT PROPERTY THAT'S DEVELOPABLE FOREVER? IS IT FOREVER, MR. CHAIR? BECAUSE WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSING IS TO USE THE CITY PARCEL AS PART OF A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT SITE WITH THE DEVELOPERS PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO DO THAT JUST SO THEY CAN MOVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
BY REVISING THE MAXIMUM FAR ON ONE SIDE AND REDUCING IT ON THE OTHER SIDE IN AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT, THE CITY PARCEL COULD BE SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER. I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.
TELL ME WHO WOULD BUY IT, RIGHT? YOU JUST SAID HE HAS
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PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, HE HAS PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. THERE IS A STREET RUNNING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT THAT IS USED TO PICK UP TRASH. IF ALL THESE HAVE BEEN SUCH GREAT OPTIONS, WHY HAVEN'T WE DONE IT? WHY DO I LOOK THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE A WAR ZONE? WHY YOU GUYS ARE TELLING ME EVERYTHING THAT IS POSSIBLE.THE SKY IS THE LIMIT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE DUMPSTER NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE A DUMPSTER. ACTUALLY IT LOOKS WORSE THAN A DUMPSTER BECAUSE THERE'S DUMPSTERS THERE. RIGHT. WE PASSED THIS OPPORTUNITY UP. FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE.
GUYS, THE SKY'S STILL THE LIMIT. WE COULD DO ANYTHING.
TELL ME IN PRACTICALITY WHAT COULD BE DONE BY ANYBODY ELSE? IT'S JUST LIKE THE CALL ME GABBY THING RIGHT OUT FRONT. RIGHT WHERE THAT'S A CITY OWNED. WAS IT? SIDEWALK, PATIO.
YEAH, RIGHT. WHO ELSE WOULD HAVE RENTED THAT BESIDES CALL ME GABBY? NO, NOBODY. WE COULD, WE COULD DO ANYTHING THERE. WE COULD HAVE THE MONET OUT THERE, MAYBE HAVE THE MONA LISA OR THE. YOU KNOW.
JUST LIKE HERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. WE'RE GOING TO LET IT SIT THERE AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO COME AND SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHY YES, HE CARES ABOUT THE CITY, BUT ALSO HE HAS HIS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. SO IT'S QUITE LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE THAT IT IS ONLY GOING TO GO AND INVEST THEIR PUBLIC MONEY IN. NOBODY IS GOING TO GO DOWN AND, AND BUY THIS IN A VACUUM. SO THEY COULD CREATE SOME SORT OF OUTDOOR MARKET OR ANYTHING ELSE. AM I OFF THERE THE DIFFERENCE? ONE THING I WOULD HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT IS A TRADITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY. THE CITY HOLDS THE DEDICATION BUT THE FEE SIMPLE. OWNERS ON EITHER SIDE HAVE THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY RIGHTS. THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS THE CITY OWNS THIS PARCEL OUTRIGHT SO IT HAS VALUE. SO THAT, I MEAN THAT'S REALLY THE POINT IS THAT IF THE COVENANT IN LIEU IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER TO ALLOW FAR TO BE SHIFTED, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT WITHOUT TYING UP OUR PROPERTY.
SO IS THAT THE ONLY WHEN YOU SAY TYING UP OUR PROPERTY? I THOUGHT IT WAS SO HE CAN DO THE VILLA AND THE KIOSKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I APOLOGIZE FOR USING THE TERM KIOSKS, BUT ISN'T THAT THE POINT OF THIS? THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT.
OKAY, SO WHERE THE DISAGREEMENT IS IN THE COVENANT IS THAT IN PERPETUITY OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT FOR A FIXED TERM.
SO IT WOULD BE PERMANENT IF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WERE TRANSFERRED FROM ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE OTHER.
BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE COULD NOT UNDO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT SITE. SO UNTIL THAT POINT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GET OUT OF IT. BUT ONCE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE SHIFTED, THEN IT IS PERMANENT AND.
RIGHT, BUT I GUESS TYING UP, WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING ABOUT TYING UP THE PROPERTY, THAT'S NOT JUST FOREVER.
RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS THE CONCERN THAT I HEARD ABOUT FIRST IS WE'RE TYING THIS UP, WE'RE TYING THE CITY'S HANDS.
IF WE WANT TO GO OUT AND BUILD ALL THESE COOL THINGS THE CITY HAS NEVER DONE IN THE 70 YEARS WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT NOW. IS THAT FOREVER OR IS THAT JUST FOR. ISN'T THIS A 20 YEAR FIXED TERM? I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW MUCH OF THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN CONSUMMATED BY THE TIME WE WANTED TO UNDO IT IF WE NEEDED TO.
RIGHT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE INITIAL, BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE TRANSFERRED, I DON'T THINK IT IS PERMANENT.
YEAH, I'M GOING TO STOP IN. IF NO FAR IS TRANSFERRED AND THE PARTIES AGREE THAT UPON THE TERMINATION OF THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT, THE COVENANT IN LIEU WILL GO AWAY. THEN THERE'S NO ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO THIS SIMPLY TO TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
BUT AS NICK HAS POINTED OUT, THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT A COVENANT IN LIEU. SO THE DEVELOPER CAN STILL RECEIVE WHAT IT WANTS WITHOUT TYING UP THE PROPERTY IN PERPETUITY. AND I AGREE.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT? BUT WHO KNOWS IN 50 YEARS, WHAT. WHAT THE WORLD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE CITY'S GOING
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TO LOOK LIKE. THE CITY MAY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ONCE THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT EXPIRES.IS THERE A TERM FOR THIS? I THOUGHT THERE WAS A TERM FOR THIS.
YES, THERE'S A TERM. THE TERM IS 20 YEARS. WE HAVE 310 YEARS.
THE COVENANT LIEU WOULD BE PERMANENT IF THE. IF THE FAR IS TRANSFERRED.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? MEANING IT CANNOT.
THE LOTS CANNOT BE SEPARATED IF THERE'S TRANSFERS OF FAR.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE SAME WAY FOR THE 500 ALTON PROJECT, A COVENANT IN LIEU WAS RECORDED TO JOIN WHAT IS NOW THE PARK PARCEL, THE 6TH STREET, THE FORMER 6TH STREET RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SITE. THE CITY COMMISSION, THE DEVELOPER COULD NOT NOW UNDO THAT UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT SITE BECAUSE ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE SOUTHERNMOST PARCEL, WHICH IS WHERE THE FIVE PARK TOWER IS. SO THAT IT'S.
THAT'S THE ANALOGY TO THIS SITUATION IS THIS.
IS STAFF SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OR NO? WELL, IT'S STILL TO BE WORKED OUT.
WHAT DOES STAFF THINK? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? WHAT IS STAFF'S POSITION OR LEGAL'S POSITION ON THIS? WELL, OUR POSITION IS THAT WE RIGHT NOW ARE NOT PREPARED TO BRING YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO PROCEED FORWARD. IF WE CAN GET PAST THIS INITIAL ROADBLOCK, I THINK WE CAN WORK THROUGH PROBABLY MOST OF EVERYTHING ELSE SO WE CAN GET PAST THIS TO DELIVER EXACTLY WHAT MR. COMRADES WANTS TO DELIVER.
BUT THIS IS A, TO ME, A FUNDAMENTAL DECISION THAT THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE.
IF MY PAPERWORK DID NOT HAVE ANY ATTACHMENT, NO MEMOS, NOTHING. SO IF IT'S NOT READY, WHY IS IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY? WHAT'S THE URGENCY? I ASKED FOR IT, RIGHT? OH, LIKE THIS HAS BEEN DELAYED THREE MONTHS. AND THAT'S WHAT I PREFACED IT WITH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
BUT I DON'T EXPECT THIS TERM TO BE NEGOTIATED TODAY. AND I DON'T EVEN CARE IF WE DON'T MOVE IT FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION. I WANT TO HASH OUT A LOT OF THIS.
BUT IT'S WITH THE UNDERSTANDING NOT EVERYTHING WILL BE AGREED TO HERE TODAY. AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S OKAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES. IT'S TO KEEP ON A TIME FRAME THAT THESE THINGS DON'T JUST LANGUISH RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING HERE. OKAY.
WE'RE GOING AWAY FOR SUMMER, SO LET'S JUST KICK IT TO SEPTEMBER AND THEN SOMETHING'S OUTSTANDING WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN COMMITTEE.
LIKE I WALK DOWN LINCOLN ROAD EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY. ZARA JUST SHUT FOR RENOVATION. THERE'S A RESTAURANT THERE ON THE CORNER OF MERIDIAN THAT JUST FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE BETWEEN HERE AND BRICKELL IT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO GET OPEN.
THE ZEKE'S ROADHOUSE, EVERYTHING IS CLOSED. OKAY.
THE WESTERN PART OF LINCOLN ROAD, TWO STORES, ONE'S A POP UP. SEGAFREDO JUST WALKED AWAY. IT'S A GHOST TOWN.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T FULLY BAKED AND I PREFACED IT, THIS WILL GIVE YOU TWO MONTHS BEFORE, BEFORE COMING TO COMMISSION TO WORK OUT THESE POINTS. SO I DON'T NEED YOU TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING HERE TODAY. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN HEAR 90% OF THE THINGS FOR THIS PROJECT AND TRUST OUR CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE PROJECT TEAM OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS TO HOPEFULLY COMPLETE THAT OTHER 10% IN HERE BY THE FULL COMMISSION. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, THAT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK THROUGH SOME ASSUMING WE PUT THIS TO THE SIDE.
KNOWING. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THAT PROPERTY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PAIN POINTS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO.
YEAH, THERE, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I'LL LET OZZY TAKE CARE OF THOSE IS, YOU KNOW, TO WALK THROUGH SOME. STARTING WITH THE, THE VALUE OF, OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. WE CAN START. YOU CAN START WITH THAT AND GO DOWN.
AS DAVID HAD MENTIONED, THIS IS A, IT'S A 20 YEAR TERM WITH THREE 10 YEAR OPTIONS. THE DEVELOPER'S OPTION, THE INVESTMENT OF CAPITAL INTO THIS PROPERTY IS BETWEEN 1.5 AND $2 MILLION. THERE IS NO TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE RIGHTS FOR THE CITY UNDER THE, THE CURRENT TERMS. WHAT? I'M SORRY, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THEM. WE ARE REQUESTING A TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO DISCUSS SOME STIPULATIONS IN IT, BUT WE'RE STILL STUCK THERE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE LIKE ADVERSARIAL TO THE CITY STAFF OR NEGOTIATE AGAINST US, BUT TELL ME IN WHAT WORLD SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT AND THE CITY COULD JUST GO TAKE THE CITY OUT OF IT. THE OTHER PARTY CAN JUST SAY I'M GOING TO TERMINATE BECAUSE I WOKE UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED AND GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED MULTIMILLION INVESTMENT. WE'RE TALKING ONE AND A HALF TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR 50 YEARS. THAT TRANSLATES TO OVER $3,000 A MONTH.
BUT DOES THAT NOT. IS TWO MILLION DOLLARS NOT MULTI MILLION? YES, IT IS.
I'M SORRY, I WASN'T TRYING TO BE SMART WITH THAT COMMISSION.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE.HE'S LITERALLY MAKING A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT THAT YOU JUST DECIDED TO GET UP OUT OF YOUR CHAIR TO TRY AND CORRECT ME FOR SAYING HE'S MAKING A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.
WHAT IS THE INVESTMENT? ONE AND A HALF TO $2 MILLION.
TELL ME THE DEFINITION IS $2 MILLION MULTI.
OKAY. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT COMMISSION NOT TO LOOK IT UP. $2 MILLION IS MORE THAN $1 MILLION.
MR. CHAIR, RESPECTFULLY, WE, I THINK STAFF, AND INCLUDING MYSELF, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. WE UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE A SHITHOLE. I GET THAT.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR VETTING PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT $2 MILLION IS GOOD FOR 50 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS MIAMI BEACH AND IT'S LINCOLN ROAD, BUT.
OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S. I MEAN THIS IS JUST FUNDAMENTALLY INCORRECT, THIS STUFF YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING OUT. SO ONLY $2 MILLION. THAT'S THE INVESTMENT HE'S MAKING. OKAY, SO NOW ON THE RECORD, WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER SAYING WE'RE ONLY GETTING $2 MILLION. NO, THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCORRECT.
OKAY. ARE WE NOT GETTING A REVENUE SHARE? I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET TO THAT.
SO THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT I WANT THEM TO FINISH. I'D LIKE THEM TO FINISH, WHICH I WANTED TO BEFORE SOMEBODY WANTED TO GET UP AND CORRECT ME FOR SAYING A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT. WHY WOULD WE GIVE OPTIONS TO TERMINATE? BUT SOMEHOW, LIKE. DAVID, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU FELT THE NEED TO DO THAT.
LET'S PUT THAT BEHIND US. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING HERE. I'LL GET BACK TO WHAT I'M SAYING. WHETHER IT BE A FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR INVESTMENT, A MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT, TWO MILLION DOLLARS. WHY WOULD ANYBODY MAKE THAT INVESTMENT AND JUST HAVE A RIGHT TO TERMINATE? RIGHT.
AT CONVENIENCE. THAT'S JUST A FUNDAMENTAL. YOU WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
WELL, OZZY, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A TERMINATION OR.
WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK IN SOME STIPULATIONS.
THE CHAIR BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT.
WHY WOULD YOU. AND YOU KNOW, IN A PRACTICALITY STANDPOINT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO TERMINATE IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG? MAYBE YOU CAN.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY, CITY PROPERTY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COMES IN THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO NEED TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY AND WE WOULD NEED TO EXERCISE A TERMINATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR MIND RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS THERE'S LIKE THEY DECIDE TO THROW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE WILL, BUT YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT COULD BE A DEFAULT ON THEIR, ON THEIR PART OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL THAT, THAT JUST REQUIRES, REQUIRES US. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO RECAPTURE THIS PROPERTY TO, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOP IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE CITY OWNED.
AND ARE THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO, TO INVEST OR THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST THE 1.5 TO $2 MILLION.
BUT WE HAVE NOT REQUIRED THEM.
WHEN I, WHEN I, WHEN I HEAR THAT, IS THAT UPDATING THE STREET AND, AND, AND THE BUILDINGS SURROUNDING IT, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT THE INVESTMENTS WERE? CORRECT? NO, NO. LET ME CLARIFY.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUILDINGS. THAT'S PART OF THE PRICE OF THE STREET, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS STRICTLY THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT WITHIN OUR PROPERTY, THE STREET. MR. RIGHT.
MR. CONGRESS PROPOSING OBVIOUSLY INVESTING INTO HIS PROPERTIES AND UPLIFTING THOSE PROPERTIES SEPARATELY.
OKAY, SO THE ONE AND A HALF OR TWO MILLION IS SIMPLY FOR THE STREET.
WHICH IS OUT OF YOUR OWN PROPERTY.
SURFACE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FF AND E THERE, THAT'S OKAY.
SO LET'S MOVE PAST THE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMMISSIONER, LET'S MOVE PAST THE, THE ONE AND A HALF, TWO AND WHAT OTHER PAIN POINTS.
I'LL JUST, I'LL ADD ONE POINT TO THAT, NOT AGAINST THE TERMINATION OPTION, BUT IT JUST CAN'T BE FOR CONVENIENCE. AND IF IT WOULD BE AFTER THE PROJECT APPLICANT RECOVERED HIS INVESTMENT, IF IT WOULD BE A SLIDING SCALE WHERE WE SAID AFTER YEAR ONE, YOU'VE JUST MADE THAT $1.5 MILLION, WE NEED TO TERMINATE IT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING X, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF PAYMENT AND LOOT.
FOR HIM TO MOVE FORWARD. HE CAN'T JUST HAVE THIS IN, YOU KNOW, IN A AMBIGUOUS, THAT WE COULD TERMINATE LIKE THAT RIGHT AWAY FOR NO REASON. RIGHT. IF THERE'S PROTECTIONS AROUND IT FULLY SUPPORTIVE. BUT IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT SOMEBODY MAKING INVESTMENT HAS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AT A CERTAIN POINT.
CORRECT. AND STAFF IS WILLING TO DISCUSS OPTIONS ON A TERMINATION ALONG THE LINES THAT YOU WERE SAYING.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING TO RECEIVE 100 MONTHLY PARKING PASSES FOR THE G5 GARAGE.
IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PARKING DEPARTMENT, THERE IS A LONG WAITING LIST THERE FOR RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE PARKING PASSES AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CANNOT COMMIT TO.
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RECEIVE FOR FREE? NO. AT CITY RATES.AT CITY RATES. BUT THE PARKING PASSES ARE JUST NOT AVAILABLE TO GIVE BECAUSE THAT GARAGE IS IN SUCH GREAT DEMAND AND WITH A CONVENTION CENTER.
BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU CAN NEGOTIATE IN THE INTERIM IF THERE'S OTHER GARAGES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL.
I'M SURE THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU ALL CAN HAVE.
CORRECT? AND. AND YES, WE WILL, SIR.
ON PUBLIC BENEFITS. THE PUBLIC BENEFITS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED IS THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THIS AREA OF THE STREET, WHICH WE AGREE THAT IS A GREAT BENEFIT FOR. FOR THE CITY. BUT THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS AS YOU WOULD SEE IN OTHER P3 PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AT COMMISSION WITH.
WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE ELABORATE PUBLIC BENEFIT. THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INSTALL A MURAL ON THE G5 GARAGE THAT FACES IS THE NORTH LINCOLN LANE AREA. AND STAFF IS WILLING TO DISCUSS A MURAL THAT BEAUTIFIES THE AREA, THAT ENHANCES THE AREA.
IS IT ALREADY DESIGNED? THERE'S A DESIGN THAT'S FACING 17TH, BUT THE SIDE VIEW TO MERIDIAN COURT IS BLANK AND DOWN TOWARDS THE BACK OF. SO IF IT WOULD BE A BEAUTIFICATION MURAL, WE'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS IT AS LONG AS THE CITY HAS FULL AUTONOMY ON.
BUT THEY WANT TO USE THIS AREA FOR ADVERTISEMENT SPONSORSHIPS AND BANNERS. AND THE CITY'S COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THAT.
THEY WANT TO USE THAT PART OF THE GARAGE FOR EVENT ADVERTISING, SPONSORSHIPS, AND BANNERS.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN MURAL, THOUGH.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU CAN WORK OUT IN TWO MONTHS.
THEY ALSO WANT EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO PROGRAMS AND ACTIVATIONS OF THE NORTH LINCOLN LANE PROJECT AREA. AND WHILE THEY.
WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO HAVE ACTIVATING PROGRAMS THERE AND HAVING SPONSORSHIPS THERE.
WE DO NOT WANT THEM TO HAVE THE FULL RIGHTS WHERE THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT FROM CITY OR CITY DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LINES UP WITH THE CITY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY THAT DO HAVE OR PROPERTIES THAT DO HAVE FULL AUTONOMY? NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
MR. VICE CHAIR. I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL GO THROUGH THE TCD SPECIAL PERMITS PROGRAM WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
OKAY, ALMOST HAVE IT ALIGNED LIKE LINCOLN ROAD. RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE CITY'S PROPERTY.
CORRECT. LINCOLN ROAD HAS A MASTER PROPERTY PERMIT WHERE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF EVENTS PER YEAR UNDER CERTAIN CATEGORIES. AND IF THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GO PAST THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT WITH TCD.
OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOOD PRESENT THERE, COMMISSIONER.
AND AS PART OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAKING INVESTMENTS TO THE LINCOLN ROAD BID. I KNOW THAT EACH YEAR, WHETHER IT'S FOR HOLIDAY DECOR, ELEVATING STREET LIGHTS WITHIN LINCOLN ROAD, THERE'S LIKE A SERIES OF THINGS THAT THE BID NEEDS.
SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
THIS WILL BE NOTED. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I'M GOING TO SKIP TO THE LAST TWO POINTS. REAL, BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY FAST TO SAY. AND THEN I'LL GET TO MY LAST POINT WHICH IS THE FINANCIAL BID, THE LAST TWO POINTS. THEY WOULD LIKE A FEE WAIVER FOR ANY CONCESSION FEES FOR THE RAMP UP PERIOD, WHICH IS FIRST 18 MONTHS OF THE PROJECT AND THEN THEREAFTER FOR THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT AND ITS RENEWAL OPTIONS, A 50% DISCOUNT ON CONCESSION FEES.
AND DO THAT SECOND PART ONE MORE TIME.
THEY WOULD LIKE A, A FEE WAIVER OR CONCESSION FEES DURING THE FIRST 18 MONTHS.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT THEREAFTER FOR THE LIFE OF THE OF THE AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE A FEE, 50% REDUCTION ON ANY FEE WAIVERS.
THE FIRST 18 MONTHS IS FREE AND THEN THEREAFTER IT'S 50%.
OKAY, WHAT, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE HAVE STANDARD CONCESSION REV SHARES.
CORRECT. THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE CAFE, CAFE DINING FEES FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THEIR RESTAURANTS, ANY TABLES, AND CHAIRS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT OUT. SO THEY WANT THOSE FEES TO BE WAIVED FOR THE FIRST 18 MONTHS.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH LINCOLN SIDE WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY A STREET THERE.
OKAY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT 50% PART. BECAUSE ISN'T THIS JUST LIKE A BILATERAL NEGOTIATION TO SAY, OKAY, REVENUE SHARE OF. LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK, RIGHT. BECAUSE MAYBE WE'RE TALKING INSIDER BASEBALL AND I WANT THE PRICE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THE PROJECT SPONSOR, HE WILL HAVE CONCESSIONS.
RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE A STREET THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE, WE GET A REVENUE SHARE
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OF THAT.AND PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE THE PROJECT TEAM PUT UP DEPICTIONS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S NOT JUST PUBLIC BEAUTIFICATION IS AN ACTIVATION OF THAT WAY WE GET A REVENUE SHARE OF THAT ACTIVATION. AREN'T WE JUST NEGOTIATING? I SHOULDN'T SAY, AREN'T WE? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE NEGOTIATING WHAT THE PERCENTAGE REVENUE SHARE OF THE REVENUE THAT'S DERIVED FROM THAT IS GOING TO BE? THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE REVENUE SHARE. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR ANY CONCESSION FEES. AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WHAT THOSE COULD BE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE FULL PROPOSAL IS AS TO WHAT'S GOING TO GO WHERE.
BUT IF THERE WERE ANY, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT A CONCESSION FEE BECAUSE MAYBE IT DOESN'T WARRANT IT.
BUT IF THERE WERE ANY, THEY WANT TO GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE WAIVED FOR THE FIRST 18 MONTHS AND THEN THEREAFTER IT WOULD BE AT A REDUCTION OF 50 THROUGH THE CHAIR. IF I MAY, JUST TO CLARIFY. SO THERE'S CONCESSION FEE SHARING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON WHATEVER CONCESSIONS THE DEVELOPER BRINGS IN. THE CONCESSION FEE REDUCTION THAT, THAT OZZY IS TALKING ABOUT WOULD RELATE TO ANY SIDEWALK CAFE OPERATIONS BY TENANTS. SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE, THE REV SHARE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THESE WOULD BE INDEPENDENT, LIKE TENANTS IN THE BUILDINGS WANT TO HAVE SIDEWALK CAFES WOULD PAY THE SAME AS ANY TENANT ON LINCOLN ROAD.
RIGHT, BECAUSE DO WE JUST CHARGE A FLAT SIDEWALK FEE? LINCOLN ROAD IS, I THINK IT'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE FEE. AND WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS, I THINK DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHERE WE REDUCE THE FEES BY 50% PERHAPS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, IT CAUSED ME TO SIT UP WHERE I HEAR 50% REDUCTION.
BUT THAT'S BASED ON WHAT WE WOULD CHARGE SOMETHING ON LINCOLN ROAD.
CAN'T WE JUST. ACTUALLY, SINCE THIS ISN'T ON LINCOLN ROAD. RIGHT. CAN'T WE HAVE OUR OWN SEPARATE NEGOTIATION OF WHAT THOSE SIDEWALK FEES SHOULD BE? IT'D BE LIKE IF WE CHARGE A RESTAURANT X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE ON OCEAN DRIVE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY NOT SHORTS THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND OCEAN DRIVE.
LOOK, IF I, IF I MAY STEP IN, I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING THERE.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN ALLEYWAY.
I GET IT. YEAH. IT'S NOTHING I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IN PERPETUITY FOREVER.
BUT I'M OKAY WITH UP UNTIL THE POINT OF THIS 20 YEAR TERM.
LOOK, I MEAN, I THINK AFTER THAT WE, WE SHOULD HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE OR MAYBE EVEN AFTER 10, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF IT IS GOING TO BE THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THINGS CHANGE IN 10, 20 YEARS.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO DO IT IN PERPETUITY.
MAYBE WE COULD NEGOTIATE INSTEAD OF LIKE, OH, A 50% REDUCTION IN LINCOLN ROAD. COME UP WITH FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR WHAT THAT IS.
MAYBE NOT BASE IT ON LINCOLN ROAD BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE HOW IT SOUNDS. OH, WE'RE GIVEN A 50% REDUCTION IN FEES. WELL, YES, THAT'S JUST BASING IT ON WHAT THE, OUR MOST VISIBLE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR IN OUR CITY AND IN THE REGION ARE.
THIS CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BE PEGGED TO THAT. SO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS THE RIGHT MARKET VALUE FOR SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY ISN'T PRIME BEACHFRONT REALTY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON WHY BEACHFRONT HOUSE SELLS FOR A LOT MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND OR THIRD HOUSE OR COURT ROW SEATS SELL FOR MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, SECOND OR THIRD ROW. FIND OUT WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, FAIR VALUE IS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN EASILY BE. NOT EASILY, BUT NEGOTIATED WITHIN TWO MONTHS.
AND THEN THE LAST POINT ON THIS POWERPOINT IS THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING AN 18 MONTH RAMP UP PERIOD WHERE THERE'S NO REVENUE SHARE TO ALLOW THEM TO RECUPERATE AND GET THEIR PROGRAM GOING. AND THEN THEREAFTER ON YEAR TWO, THEY ARE PROPOSING A 5% OF GROSS REVENUE. HOWEVER, THE CITY HAD PROPOSED A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE, A LOT MORE SIMPLER.
THE, THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, THE HURDLE THAT WE HAVE WITH THEIR PROPOSAL IS THAT THEY'RE 5% OF GROSS REVENUE, 5% BEING A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE GROSS REVENUE.
OF WHAT EXACTLY? OF WHATEVER THEY GENERATE ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT. SO IF THEY BRING IN THE CITY PROJECT,
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NOT THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, STRICTLY WITHIN THE CITY LAND.SO IF THEY BRING IN SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPONSORS THAT THEY GENERATE ANY REVENUE FROM OR THE KIOSK, THE RETAIL STRUCTURES THAT PAY THEM RENT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THOSE WILL BE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED ON THE CITY PROPERTY. THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT CONCESSIONS.
CONCESSIONS, CORRECT. THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE 5% OF THE GROSS REVENUE.
HOWEVER, THEY DEFINE THEIR GROSS REVENUE AS GROSS REVENUE.
LESS REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, EMPLOYEE SALARIES, CAPITAL REIMBURSEMENTS. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OVER, THE CITY WILL GET 5% OF THAT. AND WE DO NOT THINK THAT THAT IS A TRUE DEFINITION OF GROSS REVENUE, WHICH IS VERY STANDARD IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
SO DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE AROUND THE CITY THIS SORT OF DEAL? WE, WE DEFINITELY DO PERCENTAGE IN LIEU DEALS ALL THE TIME. WE HAD ONE WITH SEGA FREDO WHERE THEY PAID US, I THINK IT WAS 8% OR 6% WAS THEIR LAST TERM OF THEIR GROSS REVENUE. SO IT'S NOT MINUS SALARIES OR MINUS RENT OR THEIR COST OF DOING BUSINESS. IT IS BASED ON THE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED.
THEY WANT TO GIVE US LIKE A NET ALMOST.
THEY WANT TO GIVE US 5% OF NET AND THEN AFTER YEAR THREE THEY WANT TO PUT CAPS ON IT AS WELL.
CITI IS, IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT. THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD WAS VERY SIMPLE. WE GAVE THEM A 12 MONTH RAMP UP PERIOD.
I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED FOR 18. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS. BUT IT WAS 10%.
IS 5% STANDARD? NO, IT'S VERY LOW. 10% WOULD BE THE STANDARD. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATIONS ARE ALWAYS A BLANK CANVAS AND IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT AND HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO GIVE. BUT 10 IS DEFINITELY A VERY FAIR AMOUNT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A RAMP.
REVENUE FROM CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
JUST THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY GENERATE FROM THEIR RETAILERS.
OKAY. AND ROUGH. WHAT DO YOU MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVE, BUT WHAT DO THEY EXPECT TO MAKE ON, ON THE CITY SIDE? THE CITY, YEAH.
LET'S HAVE THE PROJECT TEAM COME UP AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH MICHAEL.
MICHAEL, FEEL FREE TO TAKE A STEP BACK. YOU KNOW, WE'VE DISCUSSED WHAT'S OUTSTANDING AND I PREFACED IT WITH WE KNEW THERE WOULD BE THINGS OUTSTANDING BECAUSE I ASKED, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE SUMMER BREAK THAT WE CAN HEAR THIS.
RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S THINGS BETWEEN THE PROJECT SPONSOR AND THE CITY THAT WON'T BE FINALIZED TODAY.
BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT. AND OZZIE, FEEL FREE TO KIND OF LOOP IN WITH OR DAVID, LOOP IN WITH MICHAEL. WHAT, WHAT ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH? TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT. MICHAEL INTRODUCED THE PROJECT. TELL US WHAT WE'RE AGREEING, WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO, WE'VE HEARD WHAT'S OUTSTANDING. I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WITHIN TWO MONTHS, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE MINOR STUFF LIKE PARKING, WHERE THAT COMES FROM, THE DEFINITION BETWEEN GROSS AND NET. I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND YOU KNOW, LEGISLATE THAT FROM THE DEUS.
THAT'S WE HAVE A VERY COMPETENT CITY STAFF THAT, THAT'S YOUR GUYS, BREAD, AND BUTTER.
MICHAEL HAS A DEEP RETAIL EXPERTISE. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERS HERE. SO WE'LL, WE'LL COME TO TERMS WITH THAT. TELL US KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, MICHAEL, WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
SURE. MICHAEL COMRADES WITH OFFICES AT 1261 20TH STREET AND A 30 YEAR MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE NOLY PROJECT. AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME. WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING ACTUALLY COMPLETED.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REALLY TRYING TO REIMAGINE AN AREA OF MIAMI BEACH THAT HAD GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHICH I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD EVER HAVE GOTTEN TO.
I ACTUALLY SAT THERE WITH THE CITY MANAGER ACROSS THE STREET BEFORE WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY. AND I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP THE PICTURES, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OF MY.
YOU GUYS, COULD YOU PUT THE SLIDES GOING? OKAY.
WE KNOW HOW POORLY THAT AREA LOOKS. SO TO ME I WAS VERY SURPRISED.
SURPRISED THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT EXISTS. CAN YOU JUST PUT THAT UP? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND I DON'T. I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING HERE ON MY BEACH FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTIES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IN SUCH A HIGH PROFILE AREA.
THE. THE BEAUTY OF THE NOLY PROJECT IS BRINGING TOGETHER SEVERAL BUILDINGS TO FORM A SORT OF A MICRO DISTRICT WILL SORT OF CHANGE THE PERSPECTIVE OF LINCOLN ROAD. IT'S SOLVE FOR MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT CURRENTLY IMPACT LINCOLN ROAD. MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUILDING DEPTHS, LACK OF CONTINUITY, LACK OF INVESTMENT
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ON VARIOUS PROPERTIES. AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE IS TAKE A BUILDING THAT GENERALLY FRONTS LINCOLN ROAD. AND I SHOULD SAY THAT LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR OUR COMPLETE PROJECT. SO THAT PORTION IS DONE. SO WE'LL BE REDOING ALL OF THE LINCOLN ROAD FACADES, BUT THEN INTRODUCING TWO NOVEL CONCEPTS.THE FIRST CONCEPT THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING IS THE VIA. WE'RE ACTUALLY.
WHAT WE DO IS THE BACK FACADES.
I DON'T KNOW IF I JUST CREATED A WORD THERE. DOES THAT REMAIN AS IS OR WILL YOU BE MAKING INVESTMENT IN THIS? BECAUSE THAT. THAT LOOKS EQUALLY AS.
BASICALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE IN BACKS OF BUILDINGS BEING SUCH IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. SO MY GOAL IS TO REMOVE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND CREATE A SECOND STREET FRONT.
OVER THE LAST 14 MONTHS, I'VE WORKED WITH FP&L TO TAKE THOSE FOUR OR FIVE TRANSFORMERS THERE AND ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATE THEM INTO ONE TRANSFORMER AND RELOCATE IT INBOARD OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WILL BE OUT OF THE PUBLIC REALM.
THE PROJECT WILL CREATE ALL NEW STOREFRONTS WITH WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE TRANSFORMED COMPLETELY INTO A NEW STOREFRONT, WHICH I'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU, BUT I'M NOT SURE I CAN FIND IT.
I THINK WE'VE ALL SORT OF SEEN IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT AND BEAUTIFUL.
BUT CAN WE JUST GET TO THE MEAT AND POTATOES? WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH OZZY, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE WAS FOR THE FAR RIGHT. WHY DO YOU NEED A PERFECT PERMANENT FAR SWAP IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE REALLY CREATING WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS HAVING BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET GIVES US THE ABILITY AND THE DESIRE TO TRY AND IMPROVE WHAT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.
TAKE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, MAKE IT A SECOND STREET FRONT, AND UNIFY. WE ARE NOT BUILDING UP ON LINCOLN ROAD RIGHT NOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO MANY PEOPLE THAT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY A VERY POSITIVE THING.
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. WE ARE LOOKING AT TAKING THE BUILDING OFF OF LINCOLN ROAD, THE 723 BUILDING, AND ACTUALLY MAKING UP FOR SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THAT BUILDING. WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED, THERE WERE A LOT OF CANTILEVER FLOORS, A LOT OF OPEN AREAS. THAT BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH FAR WITHIN IT TO MAKE IT A. A VERY GOOD BUILDING.
THAT'S THE MARSHALL'S BUILDING, THE MARSHALLS BUILDING, WHERE THE EATERY IS. WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS LIMITED.
JAY, YOU CAN PUT THE SCREEN DOWN, PLEASE.
ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, IS IF NORMALLY IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE LOADING, THE DROP OFF AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IN ADDITION, WHERE ARE THOSE TRUCKS GOING TO GO? IS THERE GOING TO BE GRIDLOCK? THE. THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSIONS OF DOING VALET AND IN THAT SECTION, WHERE ARE THE CUES GOING TO BE? WHERE'S VALET GOING TO BE? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT'S IRONED OUT IN ADVANCE.
ART COMMISSIONER GRAHAM PENN, 200 SEPTUSK AND BOULEVARD. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, AS MICHAEL SAID, THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY BOTH HPB AND DRB.
IN THOSE MATERIALS. THEY HAD A FULL LOADING TRASH ROOM. RE RELOCATION HAS ALREADY BEEN SUSSED OUT.
OKAY, BUT THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE. SHE WANTS TO HEAR. I WANT TO HEAR.
YEAH. SO IF WE COULD PULL UP THE ACTUAL PLAN THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE TAKING THE SEGMENT OF LINCOLN LANE FROM MERIDIAN TO MERIDIAN COURT AND LOOKING TO PEDESTRIANIZE IT, REMOVING THE CARS, AND CREATING A PROMENADE. A PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE. THE PROMENADE.
SORRY. AT THE EAST END IT WOULD BE BOLLARDED OFF AS WELL AS AT THE WEST END. THE. THE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MINIMIZE THE FIRE LANE AND CREATE A COMPLETELY PEDESTRIANIZED AREA. THE LOADING HAS ALL BEEN IMPORTED.
SO WE HAVE A VERY LARGE LOADING DOCK OVER AT THE 723 EATERY BUILDING. SO WE'RE PUTTING COMPACTOR INTO THE EATERY BUILDING. AND THEN WE HAVE INTERNALIZED TRASH ROOMS ON THE LINCOLN ROAD PROPERTY, WHICH WILL THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WILL HAVE A PORTER REMOVE THE TRASH BINS FROM THE INTERNALIZED TRASH ROOMS TO OUR LOADING ZONE IN THE LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING, THE 723 BUILDING, AND THEN RETURN THE. THOSE BEDS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TRASH OUT ON THE STREET.
THE GOAL IS. SO WE WANT. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS NOT HAVE THE DUMPSTERS BEING PUT OUT ON THE STREET, WAIT FOR THE TRASH PEOPLE TO COME, POUR THE THINGS INTO THE TRUCK, AND THEN HAVE THINGS ON THE SIDEWALK.
YOU'RE GONNA. SO YOU'LL HAVE LIKE A TRASH. WE HAVE A RENDEZVOUS POINT. YEAH, IT'S ALREADY HERE.
IN THE. IN THE 723 BUILDINGS. A VERY LARGE TRASH ROOM. SO. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PROVIDED FOR A COMPACTOR IN THERE. AND WITHIN THE LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING, THERE'LL
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BE TWO TRASH ROOMS INTERNALIZED SO THAT EVERY NIGHT AT.AROUND, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THE PORTER WILL COME, TAKE THOSE TOTES, BRING THEM OUT, PUT THEM INTO THE DUMPSTER, AND BRING THEM BACK.
THAT COST IS BORNE BY YOU? YES. YEAH. ALL THE COSTS SO FAR, ALL THE COSTS HAPPEN TO THIS PROJECT ARE GOING TO BE BORNE BY US, THE FPNL RELOCATION.
BUT THAT'S LIKE AN ONGOING OPERATING THING. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T GET LIKE SHIFTED STAFF OR LINCOLN ROAD BID FOR SURE.
THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AGAIN, CLEANING UP THE PUBLIC REALM IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO US.
MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO ACTUALLY COME AND HANG OUT AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE.
WHERE THAT DUMPSTER WHERE THE DUMPSTERS ARE TODAY. OUR GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY PUT IN LUSH LANDSCAPING, CANOPY TREES, FOLLOWING SUIT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER ON MERIDIAN AVENUE AND PROVIDING A DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE THAT WILL ABLE TO SPEND TIME MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A PROJECT REALLY FOR LOCALS, BY LOCALS. I'M FOCUSED ON MAKING A PLACE WHERE AS LOCALS COULD ACTUALLY COME AND ENJOY AND THEN BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE LINCOLN ROAD IN A NEW WAY.
SO YOUR STREET DESIGN WILL ESSENTIALLY LOOK LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON MERIDIAN HERE. WILL THERE BE KIND OF SOME ADJACENCY? YEAH, AND I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA.
I'VE DONE MICHAEL A DISSERVICE.
I SUBMITTED THE OLDER VERSION OF THIS, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS IN IT. IT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE I SENT PJ THE WRONG LINK.
WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FAR CHANGES. RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE.
SO THE IDEA OF THE FAR WAS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME FAR THAT WE HAVE EXCESS OF ON LINCOLN ROAD AND BE ABLE TO USE IT TO ENHANCE THE BUILDING THAT'S ON LINCOLN LANE TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE. WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED, IT DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FAR, SO IT KEPT CANTILEVERED AREAS AND OPEN SPACES, WHICH TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO FILL IN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
YOU TAKE AN FAR FROM THE FRONT FACING LINCOLN ROAD AND PUTTING IT IN THE BACK INTO THE F THAT YOU HAVEN'T USED IN THE FRONT.
CORRECT? CORRECT. WE'RE UNDER 50% FAR ON LINCOLN ROAD TODAY.
AND THEN HOW IS THERE. I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT THE HEIGHT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HEIGHT OR CHANGE.
IT'S A LINCOLN ROAD. NO, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY HEIGHTS. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY HEIGHT TO LINCOLN ROAD.
THE. IF I COULD. SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT IF I COULD TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE COVENANT LOOP.
THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WHY WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SWITCHING OUR MICROPHONES.
NUMBER ONE IS THAT AFOREMENTIONED TRANSFER.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE. FOR THE PROPERTY CONTEMPLATES THOSE MICRO RETAIL STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE PARTIALLY ON LINCOLN LANE, PARTIALLY ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT FREE MOVEMENT BETWEEN THOSE LOTS, LIKE THEY'RE NOT TREATED LIKE AS SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ENSURING THIS IS A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT. NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT DAVID WAS EXPLAINING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON THE CITY'S INTEREST.
THERE'S NOTHING INHERENT IN A COVENANT LOO THAT SAYS THAT LINCOLN LANE, THE SITE COULD NOT BE REDEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT, TO COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ'S POINT IS. AND IF YOU COULD PULL UP THAT DIAGRAM AGAIN, KEEP GOING. ONE MORE SLIDE, MAYBE TWO. THIS ONE, NO, IT KIND OF HAD THE AERIAL MAP VIEW RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHAT'S THERE TODAY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO ACTUALLY THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU CAN SEE THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS YOU WHEN WE INTRODUCE THE VIA HOW IT DEALS WITH THE DEPTHS OF THESE LOTS.
MICHAEL, TO COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ'S POINT, YOU HAVE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE STUFF THERE.
YOU HAVE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FROM THE LINCOLN ROAD EATERY. I'M JUST VERY HARD PRESSED TO THINK WHAT ANYBODY OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THERE.
BECAUSE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE NEEDS TO BE ACCESSED. YOU'RE ABLE TO UNIQUELY DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE TRASH PICKUP TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WAS VALET RESOLVED.
YEAH. SEE IF I CAN SHOW YOU TO THIS HERE. YOU CAN. YOU CAN SEE TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST ALONG LINCOLN LANE FIRST TO THE WEST SIDE ALONG MERIDIAN AVENUE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TWO CARS ARE PARKED THERE. THAT WOULD BE A VALET ZONE AS WELL. WELL, AS ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE WE'VE CREATED SORT OF A CIRCULAR MOTION AND A BOLLARD SITUATION THERE WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE VALET ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.
INTERNALIZED HERE AND ALONG HERE ARE WHERE THE TRASH BINS
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ARE. SO THERE IS NO MORE TRASH BINS OUT IN THIS PUBLIC REALM. THE PATH WOULD BE FROM HERE COMING ACROSS AND INTO THE LOADING DOCK HERE AND THEN BRINGING THEM. BRINGING THEM BACK, THE BINS BACK IN ONE FAIR MOTION. SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THE TRASH, WE'VE DEALT WITH THE VALET, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSE WITH FIRE TO WORK THROUGH WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE.KEEP THAT. GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? I WENT UP WITH THE VALET ON MERIDIAN COURT. I'M SORRY, IS THE VALET ON MERIDIAN OR MERIDIAN COURT? WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE IT'LL ACTUALLY FUNCTION FROM. BUT THERE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE VALET COULD ACTUALLY OCCUR.
YEAH, BECAUSE LIKE THAT'S THE CIRCLE.
YES. AND THEN THEY. BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT VALET. AND ONE. ONE THING THAT I'VE COMMISSIONED.
DOMINGUEZ KNOWS THIS, BUT I CAN'T STAND THE VALET OPERATION IN FRONT OF MILA. I MEAN, MILA'S A GREAT RESTAURANT, THEY'RE A GREAT PARTNER, BUT THE WHOLE. THE WHOLE VALLEY. IT'S NOT THE VALET SERVICE'S FAULT. IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S SO MUCH PEOPLE. AND THEN THEY.
YEAH, THE UBERS, THE BLACK CARS. IT'S. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER ONE ON MERIDIAN.
YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S CLEARLY, CLEARLY WE COULD LOCATE THAT ON. ON MERIDIAN COURT AND JUST HAVE UBER DROP OFFS OVER ON MERIDIAN. OR PEDESTRIAN DROP OFFS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT.
OKAY, SO JUST NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DIAGRAM UP, YOU WANT TO TRANSFER FAR FROM WHICH BUILDING TO. TO.
SO IT WOULD BE FROM THE LINCOLN ROAD.
USE YOUR MOUSE. THE MOUSE CURSOR.
FROM THIS BUILDING HERE ACROSS TO THIS BUILDING HERE.
FOR THE INTERIOR. YEAH, PRETTY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, BUT YOU'RE NOT LIKE BUILDING UP OR.
I MEAN, IF WE WERE GOING TO DO A. A SLIGHT INCLINE ENCLOSURE ON THE ROOFTOP, MAYBE FOR A FEW THOUSAND FEET.
BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING THIS BUILDING AND GOING UP 20 STORIES OR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE. IF I COULD BUILD SOME RESI THERE, I WOULD LOVE TO. THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO A VOTE, CORRECT? THAT.
THAT IT. I'M SORRY, WHICH PART WOULD IT STILL BE SUBJECT TO A COMMISSION VOTE IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD HIGHER THERE.
IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE UNDERLYING FAR AND THE HEIGHT.
WELL, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T CHANGE.
YEAH, WE. WE WOULD BE MOVING THE. OUR NECESSARY FLOOR AREA FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH FOR THE PURPOSE OF LIKE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND. SO IT'S INTERNAL.
I WOULD SAY 90 OF IT WOULD LIKELY BE INTERNAL.
NOW THE ROOFTOP OF THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN VERY UNSUCCESSFUL.
THE REASON WHY IT'S UNSUCCESSFUL, IN MY OPINION IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO INTERIOR SPACE ADJACENT TO THE.
SO YOU'RE JUST ENCLOSING PART OF THE ROOFTOP.
PERHAPS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STUDIED IT YET. BUT THE IDEA MAY BE TO PUT 2 OR 3,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE ROOFTOP NEXT TO THE OPEN ROOFTOP SO THAT WAY IT CAN FUNCTION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND IT, THE ROOFTOP THERE, WELL BEFORE YOU WERE EVER INVOLVED, ACTUALLY WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE OPEN AIR ENTERTAINMENT.
HE WAS ACTUALLY. SOMEBODY REPRESENTS YOUR FIRM GRIM BECAUSE IT WAS JUST THIS ROOFTOP OPEN AIR KIND OF DESTINATION. SO YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ENCLOSING PERHAPS PART OF THAT.
RIGHT. BUT MORE AS IMPORTANT IS THE INTERIOR DESIGN OF THE BUILDING HAS A BUNCH OF SLABS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETE.
AND THE CANTILEVER SLAB, TO ME WOULD BE BETTER IF IT CAME ACROSS AND WENT ONTO THE WALL AND FILLED IT IN AND MADE A BETTER LAYOUT.
THERE'S SOME FUNKY LAYOUTS IN THE BUILDING AS A RESULT OF THE LIMITED FAR WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED AND THOSE WERE LOOKING TO.
AND LEGALLY WE CAN KIND OF PROTECT OURSELVES. THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE EXTENT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FAR TRANSFER THAT WE DON'T JUST. JUST GET, YOU KNOW, HOODWINKED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S ANOTHER 10 STORIES THERE OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE NEGOTIATING HOW THE FAR TRANSFERS WILL OCCUR. SO IF IT'S DONE THROUGH AN ORDINANCE, AND I SEE NICK COMING UP, THEN THE ORDINANCE WILL. WILL CONTAIN OR THE LDR AMENDMENT WILL CONTAIN THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE NEED.
WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE CODE.
OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN, DAVID, IN GENERAL, WHAT'S OUR COST FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING ON MERIDIAN AVENUE RIGHT NOW? I WANT TO SEE IN THE 20 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
SOMEWHERE SOUTH OF 20 MILLION, BUT CLOSE.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GETTING A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WHAT WAY IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'RE PAYING $18 MILLION FOR ON THE LANE.
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COMMISSIONER, IS THAT IN ON MERIDIAN, A GREAT AMOUNT OF THE INVESTMENT IS ON THE GROUND, IS UNDERGROUND. A LOT OF PIPES AND STUFF THAT ARE NOT CONTEMPLATED ON. ON NORFOLK.WHAT'S VISIBLE, THE EYE WILL ESSENTIALLY GET THE FINISHED PRODUCT. THAT'S AKIN TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHAT WE TRY TO COMPARE IT TO IN TERMS OF APPEARANCE IS MAYBE ESPANOL AWAY. THAT'S KIND OF THE.
THAT'S WHAT WE SEE THE CONCEPT BEING IS A GREAT PLAZA FROM ONE STREET INTO ANOTHER.
SO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, NOT TO REHASH AND.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE WE'RE TYING OUR HANDS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THERE, WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT WITH THIS HUGE LINCOLN ROAD INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING NOW.
WE'RE LITERALLY PUTTING $18 MILLION INTO MERIDIAN AVENUE.
WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING ON DREXEL. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ON THE LANE THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE. SO, DAVID, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, THE LINCOLN LANES, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH, WERE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN BY JAMES CORNER. THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO FOCUS ONLY ON LINCOLN ROAD AND LEAVE THE LANES FOR A FUTURE PROJECT.
CAN WE PUT THE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC BENEFITS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TO THE STREET. WHERE'D THAT BE? 3.
HOW CAN WE HOLD HIM? DID IT LOOK SOMETHING LIKE. IF IT LOOKS ANYTHING LIKE THIS, SIGN ME UP. LIKE, JUST SIGN ME UP. I MEAN, IT'S THIS, YOU KNOW, EXACT SAME PICTURE AS THIS.
BUT HOW CAN WE BE SURE WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE? BECAUSE IF WE CAN, I DON'T CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, 12 MONTHS IS ABATED OR 16 MONTHS OR WHATEVER. LIKE, I WANT THAT ON LINCOLN ROAD. RIGHT? LET'S YOU GUYS NEGOTIATE. YES, YES, AND YES. BUT LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BE HOODWINKED. PROTECT US FROM BEING HOODWINKED AND HAVE THEM DELIVER THIS AND SIGN ME UP. LET'S DO IT ASAP. AND IF THIS CAN BE DELIVERED, THAT IS MY HIGHEST PRIORITY. I WANT.
WE'RE WHAT, 85% OF THE WAY THERE, LET'S ALLOW YOU GUYS AND GALS BEFORE IT'S HEARD BY FULL COMMISSION TO IRON OUT SOME OF THESE OUTSTANDING POINTS AND YOU BE THE DRIVERS OF HELPING THE PROJECT SPONSOR DELIVER THIS.
I KNOW THE OUTSTANDING POINTS ARE NOT SIMPLE, BUT MY GOAL IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
RIGHT. LET'S. LET'S FAST TRACK IT TO DELIVER THIS VISION.
CAN WE, ON THAT FRONT, CAN WE TALK ABOUT PROCESS? BECAUSE AS I DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY EARLIER, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO COMMISSION FOR THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE HERE WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE THE NEGOTIATIONS.
WE NEED AN ITEM ON THE JULY AGENDA, THE COMMISSION TO BASICALLY AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTRATION TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE GOAL OF THAT WE COULD RETURN WITH THE AGREEMENT IN SEPTEMBER TO THE COMMISSION.
SO THAT IS WHAT, IN ORDER TO KEEP THINGS MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND ALIGN THIS WITH THE MERIDIAN IMPROVEMENTS AS BEST WE CAN. THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND I THINK THAT THAT GIVES US, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, IT GIVES US BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER TO WORK THROUGH ALL THESE REMAINING ISSUES. AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN.
BUT LET ME ASK STEPH, ARE YOU, I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP MY BOUNDS HERE.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? RIGHT.
AND I PREFACED IT WITH OZZY, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP HERE AND TELL ME, HEY, WE'RE 100% AND I'M FINE NOT EVEN MAKING A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE CAN.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE ACTUALLY VOTED ON.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS HEARD BY THE FULL COMMISSION TO SAY, GUYS, CONTINUE, GUYS AND GALS, CONTINUE NEGOTIATING. GIVES YOU TWO MONTHS. COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE REMAINING 10% THAT'S OUTSTANDING AND WE CAN THEN OPINE ON THOSE TERMS AS WELL.
MR. CHAIR, I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I WANT TO JUST REITERATE AND BE CLEAR FOR MR. PENN THAT IT'S TWO MONTHS TILL COMMISSION, BUT I REALLY WILL HAVE 30 DAYS BECAUSE THEN I GOT TO START PREPARING THE PACKAGE FOR COMMISSION. SO 30 DAYS IS THE MORE REALISTIC TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE. AND YES, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I TOLD YOU, TOLD MICHAEL, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. AGREE TO OUR TERMS AND WE'RE GOOD.
COULD WE TAKE THEM DOWN? HE HAS SAID THAT, BUT WE WILL WORK.
I FEEL LIKE I HEAR THAT ENOUGH FROM MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER.
I DO WANT TO STRESS ONE POINT FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT AND
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REALLY WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT MY GOAL IS TO WORKING WITH CIP ON THE MERIDIAN AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS. THE GOAL IS TO TAKE THAT SAME TEAM THAT IS COMPLETING THE MERIDIAN AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS, HOPEFULLY BY NOVEMBER FOR BASEL TO TAKE THAT TEAM AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND TAKE AND DO ALL OF LINCOLN LANE AND BE DONE BY LINCOLN, DONE WITH LINCOLN LANE BY MARCH, APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.BY HAVING GETTING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WILL ALLOW ME THE COMFORT TO BE ABLE TO GO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND DO THE NECESSARY WORK TO BE PREPARED SO I CAN FILE FOR PERMIT, GET THE PERMIT SO I CAN MAKE THAT TIME SCHEDULE. I DON'T WANT THE GUYS TO LEAVE THE SITE BECAUSE GETTING THEM BACK TO THE SITE TO START UP AGAIN IS JUST A WHOLE NEW.
AND WITH THE SAME TEAM, THERE WILL BE COHESION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO.
THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE WORKING IN LINCOLN LANE TO DO A FINAL TIE IN. SO WHAT I'D LOVE TO SEE HAPPEN IS THEY DO THAT FINAL TIE IN CITY SIGNS OFF ON WHATEVER THEY NEED TO SIGN OFF. AND I ENTERED TO THIS CONTRACT WITH THEM WHERE THESE PEOPLE WILL COME IN NOW AND ON MY DIME, REDO ALL OF THAT STREET.
YEAH, I DO THINK PART OF MY WANTING TO KIND OF FAST TRACK IT IS JUST THINKING COHESIVELY, RIGHT. COHESIVE WITH THE MERIDIAN PROJECT SO THEY LOOK SIMILAR. AND THEN THIS TIMELINE KEEPS IT ON TRACK TO ESSENTIALLY BE ADJACENT TO THE OPENING OF THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL.
INSTEAD OF JUST PIECEMEALING ALL THIS STUFF, WE HAVE ONE UNIFIED WOW, ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING TOGETHER HERE. IT'S HAPPENING FOR SEASON. WE HAVE NOLY COMING ON. WE HAVE THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL COMING ON. WE HAVE IT LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE MERIDIAN THAT THE TEAM HAS SPENT YEARS, YOU KNOW, DESIGNING AND FINALLY EXECUTING. IT'S JUST, IT'S A COHESIVE, COMPREHENSIVE VISION. DO YOU HAVE, OF COURSE, CAVEATS? I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SIGN OFF ON ANYTHING, BUT JUST WITH THE PROCESS, ARE WE OKAY WITH THIS PROCESS? AND IF WE GET THERE IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU SAY NOPE, WE HAVE THESE MATERIAL ISSUES.
OUTSTANDING. I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WITH THAT IN MIND AND HEARING THAT, YES.
I MEAN WE CAN GO BACK AND GET THROUGH THESE FUNDAMENTAL POINTS AND YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GIVE US FURTHER GUIDANCE AND GIVE SOME MORE FEEDBACK AS NEEDED. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ENDS UP NOT ONLY BEING THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STREET ON LINCOLN ROAD, BUT THAT IT'S ALSO A GOOD PROJECT AND A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU RECOGNIZE THAT I'M PUTTING MY TRUST IN YOU, RIGHT? I'M NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO OVERRULE YOU HERE. I'M SAYING I DON'T NEED TO SIGN OFF IN THREE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES ON EVERY SINGLE TERM. I'M GOING TO BE THE SAME GUY THAT'S SIGNING OFF AS A COMMISSIONER, AS WE ARE HERE. SO IF WE CAN GET 90% OF THE WAY THERE. I HAVE MY TRUST IN YOU ALL. I DON'T NEED TO HEAR THE SAME THING TODAY, THEN SEPTEMBER, THEN OCTOBER, AND IN NOVEMBER. I TRUST YOU. I HEARD 90% OF IT. IF YOU, YOU COME AND TELL ME I'M THE SAME GUY IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS I AM IN THE COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE TOOK A FLYER, WE JUST COULDN'T GET THERE.
THEN I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR, YOU ALL ARE PROFESSIONALS.
YOU'RE BIG BOYS AND GIRLS. I'M PUTTING MY TRUST IN YOU THAT YOU DON'T NEED ME SITTING HERE HAVING TO SIGN OFF ON EVERY DETAIL JUST BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD TO BE HEARD BY THE SAME THREE AND FOUR PEOPLE.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY ASK YOU AND THE VICE CHAIR AND THE COMMISSIONER, BASED ON THE 12 POINTS THAT WE LISTED, WERE THERE ANY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO. I TOOK SOME NOTES ON, ON THE, THE CONCESSION FEE WAIVER AND THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ RECOMMENDED, BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE OTHER POINTS THAT YOU FELT WE WERE OFF ON OR WE SHOULD NOT OFF? HE'S BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. YOU GUYS ARE EXPERTS. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND IN HERE DETERMINATION THING.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE ARE OUR PARTNERS.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY, ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACK ON THERE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF SOMEBODY MAKING MULTI MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENTS IN OUR CITY.
DAVID, STAY SEATED. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PERSON NEEDS PROTECTION AS WELL. SO I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT SEEMS LOGICAL THAT WE CAN'T JUST PULL THE RUG ON DAY TWO AFTER, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE SOME NUANCE THERE WE CAN WORK WITH.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU ALL ARE THE PROFESSIONALS. I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND NEGOTIATE THESE TERMS. IT'S VERY RARE FOR ME TO EVEN SIT HERE. IF YOU GUYS AGREE, YOU KNOW, WHO I TO SAY OTHERWISE? WONDERFUL.
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SO, CHAIR, IS THIS THE INTENT THE COMMITTEE, IS THIS IN THIS BACK TO COMMISSION TO FINALIZE? YEAH, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO PUT A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION OR UNFAVORABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.WE'RE GIVING THEM THEIR ROPE AND LEEWAY TO ESSENTIALLY GET THAT OTHER 10%. BUT I THINK WE'VE HEARD THE NUANCES AND THE DETAILS, WHICH COMMITTEE IS DESIGNED TO DO, AND NOW WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG AND WE'LL HAVE VERY SIMILAR TO THE SAME DISCUSSION, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THOSE OUTSTANDING POINTS.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE RETURNING TO COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE FINAL TERMS OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TENANT IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WHO WILL BE MAKING THAT MOTION? I'LL MOVE IT.
COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. ALL IN FAVOR? ARE YOU SAYING YOU THINK WE NEED TO HEAR IT IN JULY? MY POINT IS NOT TO HEAR ALL THIS STUFF, LIKE, 50 TIMES.
MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE, INCLUDING THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT THIS ACTION TODAY WILL MOVE THIS TO FIND THAT WE DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE COMMISSION TO AUTHORIZE FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS IN JULY. IF WE DO, THEN THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT'S NEGOTIATED.
THE COMMISSION DOES NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION. SO WHAT GRAHAM AND I DISCUSSED WAS THAT THIS SHOULD BE ON THE JULY AGENDA AS A DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATING AND COME BACK. IT COULD GO BACK TO COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT, OR IT COULD COME TO FERC EARLY SEPTEMBER AND THEN GO TO COMMISSION.
BUT WHATEVER Y', ALL, I GET THIS IS PROCESS STUFF, BUT I MEAN, THESE. THESE GUYS AND GIRLS ARE NEGOTIATING. SO WE HAVE TO GIVE COMMISSION APPROVAL TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATING.
WE SHOULDN'T DO IT LIKE THAT. I MEAN, WE NEED TO. WE DON'T WANT TO OVERRULE THE PROCESS.
BUT IF THAT'S THE PROCESS, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT.
THE ISSUE IS COMMITTEES CANNOT DIRECT. AND I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM HAVING BEEN PUT ON AGENDAS PREVIOUSLY.
TECHNICALLY, THE COMMITTEE CANNOT DIRECT THE STAFF TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE, ALTHOUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS WILL, IN FACT, CONTINUE. IT'S.
IT'S. THE COMMISSION IS FORMALIZING THE APPROVAL, BASICALLY.
OKAY, SO LET ME TRY THIS AGAIN.
SINCE WE DID NOT VOTE ON THAT MOTION, THINK THIS WOULD BE RETURNED TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION IN. IN JULY TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO FINALIZE THE TERMS OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE TENANT. AND IF WE CAN KEEP. COMMISSIONER SUAREZ IS MAKING THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE IS SECONDING Y.
OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TEAM, FOR ALL OF THIS. TRULY, LIKE, HOPEFULLY YOU RECOGNIZE I WANT TO PUT THE POWER IN YOUR ALL HANDS AND NOT TIE YOU TO THINK YOU HAVE TO COME BACK HERE TO COMMITTEE TO FINALIZE EVERY TERM, DO AWESOME THINGS TOGETHER AND WE'RE PARTNERS. I HAVE FAITH THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW GET THIS DONE IN A TIME FRAME THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WE'LL
[NB 12. DISCUSS/TAKE ACTION REGARDING A CITYWIDE REVIEW OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO IMPROVE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND STREAMLINE ADVISORY FUNCTIONS.]
HEAR NB12, WE HAVE MAYOR MINOR ON THE LINE AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HEAR NB11 AS WELL.SO MB12 DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION REGARDING A CITYWIDE REVIEW OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO IMPROVE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND STREAMLINE ADVISORY FUNCTIONS.
MB12 THANK YOU LTD. FIRST OF ALL, GOOD DISCUSSION JUST NOW AND A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS FOR OUR CITY AND LINCOLN ROAD, NINE NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPENING THIS YEAR ALONE BY YEAR END WITH SOME MEDIA COVERAGE THAT.
SO NB12 BASICALLY AS WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR CITY BUDGET AND REALLY A SHOUT OUT TO OUR CHAIR MAGAZINE BUT OUR ENTIRE COMMISSION FOR REALLY BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE'RE LOOKING TO BE EFFICIENT WITH OUR RESOURCES CUTTING EACH DEPARTMENT 5% TO REALLY BE LEAN AND MOST EFFICIENT.
BUT THIS ITEM LOOKS AT COMMITTEES. WE HAVE 48 COMMITTEES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, MOSTLY RESIDENT COMMITTEES AND THEY SERVE AN OUTSTANDING FUNCTION. NOBODY'S, NOBODY'S QUESTIONING THAT BUT LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STAFF TIME WHEN WE, WHEN WE PUT THESE COMMITTEES AND HAVE THEM AND HOW WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT AND BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY AND IF WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY LEVEL PEOPLE AND IT'S USUALLY PRETTY HIGH LEVEL PEOPLE TOO WITHIN OUR CITY AND OBVIOUSLY
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TIME AT A COMMITTEE TAKING MINUTES, PREPARING THE AGENDAS THAT ALL TAKES TIME AWAY FROM OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO.SO I'LL TURN IT OVER. I THINK MARIA HERNANDEZ IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS AND CAME UP WITH A PRETTY GOOD ANALYSIS.
SO THANKS, THANKS FOR CALLING THIS ITEM.
MARIA, GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS ITEM. I'M HERE WITH OUR CITY CLERK RAFAEL GRANADO WHO HAS ASSISTED THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS ITEM. IT IS A JOINT ITEM BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR, BOTH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. SO I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. IT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
IT TOOK ABOUT A YEAR TO GATHER THE DATA THAT CAME TO THE CONCLUSIONS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED IN THE MEMO. SO JUST FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION, OUR CITY CLERK HAS TOLD ME THAT WE KIND OF DID THIS 10 YEARS AGO WHERE WE LOOKED AT OUR COMMITTEES AND KIND OF RESET SOME OF THE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME. SO THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AND REALLY TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN PRESERVING THE MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE THAT WE GET FROM RESIDENTS AND ALSO IMPROVING OUR OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS AT THE TOP OF JUST ABOUT EVERY AGENDA. SO TO PUT IT IN A NUTSHELL, WE DO HAVE THESE 48 COMMITTEES.
41 OF THEM ARE RESIDENT COMMITTEES. THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE CHAIRS OF THEIR OWN COMMITTEES. THERE ARE FOUR LAND USE BOARDS, THAT'S THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, HPP, DRB, AND THE PLANNING BOARD. AND THEN WE HAVE THREE COMMISSION COMMITTEES, WHICH IS OF COURSE, THIS ONE FERC. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE HAVE LAND USE. SO 18 ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS SPEND APPROXIMATELY 20,000 HOURS A YEAR MANAGING THESE COMMITTEES. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TIME OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TIME OF THE CITY CLOSING CLERK'S OFFICE.
THAT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DOES. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY TIME DEDICATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOA MEETINGS, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS OR BIDS, COMMUNITY EVENTS, PRESS CONFERENCES, TOWN HALL MEETINGS, SUNSHINE MEETINGS, ANYTHING WITH A CHAMBER, AND ALSO NOTHING THAT IS PROJECT SPECIFIC. WE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS HAVING TO DO WITH THAT. THIS IS STRICTLY THE MANAGEMENT OF THE 48 COMMITTEES. THAT'S WHERE THE 20,000 HOURS GOES, THE SPLIT OF THAT TIME. THERE'S TWO PIE CHARTS IN THE MEMO. THERE'S ONLY TWO PIE CHARTS. THE SECOND PIE CHART SHOWS HOW OUR HOURS ARE DIVVIED UP. SO THE LAND USE BOARDS, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND HAVE VERY, A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF STAFF, IT'S REALLY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT MANAGES THOSE.
THOSE ARE REALLY MORE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
ONLY ABOUT 15% OF OUR LAND USE BOARDS OF TIME IS SPENT ON LAND USE BOARDS.
OUR COMMISSION COMMITTEE, WE'RE TALKING THINGS THAT LIKE, ARE HPB CORRECT? NONE OF THIS IS.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THAT. NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THAT. WE'RE ALSO NOT TOUCHING THE COMMISSION COMMITTEES. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT TOUCHING FERC, LAND USE, OR NEIGHBORHOODS. 44% OF STAFF TIME GOES INTO THESE COMMITTEES. SO THAT'S ABOUT 8,800 HOURS OUT OF THE 20,000. SO THE RESIDENT COMMITTEES COME OUT TO ABOUT 08,300 HOURS. AGAIN, NOT INCLUDING THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS TODAY.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO JUST LET YOU KNOW IS WHAT OUR BLANKET, YOU KNOW, GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
WE CAN GET INTO INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL THING COMMITTEES IF YOU WANT TO, BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WE WANT TO LIMIT, NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO LIMIT AD HOC COMMITTEES TO JUST THEIR MISSION SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS. AND THAT'S USUALLY FOR ABOUT A YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM ON THE LIST.
AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE LIST OF COMMITTEES, IT'S ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE ITEM.
YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL THEN. WE WANT QUARTERLY MEETINGS TO BECOME THE STANDARD FRAMEWORK FOR THESE COMMITTEES. AND THAT
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IS REALLY, AS PER DIVISION 1, CHAPTER 2 OF THE STATE CITY CODE. THAT CHAPTER SAYS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM. WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME IS THAT MONTHLY MEETINGS HAVE BECOME THE STANDARD. SO, OF COURSE, THE STAFF TIME INVOLVED IS, YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES MORE.AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT QUARTERLY MEETINGS, IT PROVIDES SUFFICIENT INPUT FROM. THIS IS OUR OPINION FROM THE ADVISORY BOARDS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, CONTROL OUR WORKLOAD A LOT.
YOU KNOW, BRING IT DOWN A LOT. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CANCEL ALL RESIDENT COMMITTEES DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST. THAT ALIGNS MORE WITH THE RECESS PERIOD THAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS. SOME BOARDS WANT TO MEET IN AUGUST. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'D LIKE FOR THE MEETINGS TO BE A MAXIMUM OF AN HOUR AND A HALF SO THEY DON'T GO INTO TWO OR THREE HOURS, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THAT. THEN THAT'S A RIPPLE EFFECT TO ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE TO FOLLOW SO WE CAN DISCUSS INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE. I'D ALSO LIKE OUR CITY CLERK TO SAY ANYTHING IF HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD. AND THEN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS FOR THE QUARTERLY PERIOD, NOT FOR ALL COMMITTEES. THERE ARE LAND USE BOARDS WILL CONTINUE TO MEET MONTHLY BECAUSE THAT'S NECESSARY. THE COMMISSION COMMITTEES WILL CONTINUE TO MEET MONTHLY BECAUSE THAT'S NECESSARY. OTHER COMMITTEES, SUCH AS A BUDGET, STUFF THAT IMPACTS FINANCIAL IMPACTS, WILL CONTINUE TO MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND FOR THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE MEETING QUARTERLY, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AN HOUR AND A HALF. AND IF THERE'S A SPECIAL REFERRAL YOU NEED TO MAKE, THOSE COMMITTEES CAN MEET AT A TIME THAT'S NOT DURING THEIR QUARTER. SO THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT WHAT YOU. IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR WHATEVER YOU REFER. IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THAT.
WELL, I'M IN TOTAL FAVOR OF THIS. IT MAKES. IT MAKES SENSE. YOU GUYS NEED TO FREE UP SOME OF YOUR TIME, ESPECIALLY THE AUGUST. IT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS.
THERE'S COMMITTEES THAT MEET IN AUGUST THAT REFUSED TO.
OKAY, YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF STREAM LIGHTING THE COMMITTEES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, COMMISSIONER SUAREZ AND I HAD A SUNSHINE MEETING IN 2024 WITH THE CITY CLERK AND DISCUSS THIS. AND AT THAT TIME, THERE REALLY WEREN'T A LOT OF BIG OPTIONS, AND WE RECOMMENDED SOME SUNSETTING AND SOME MERGING OF COMMITTEES.
BUT THEN INSTEAD MORE COMMITTEES POPPED UP AND CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED. SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS. I HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH STREAMLINING COMMITTEES THAT'S GOING TO BE HEARD AT NEIGHBORHOODS SOON, I HOPE. AND I THINK SOME OF THE COMMITTEES ARE REDUNDANT AND CAN BE FOLDED UNDER EXISTING COMMITTEES. I KNOW THAT. I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND IN SOME CASES THEY'VE TOLD ME 40% OF THEIR WORKLOAD IS WORKING ON THESE ADVISORY COMMITTEES, AND THAT'S RIDICULOUS. NOT EVERY COMMITTEE, I THINK, COULD BE TURNED TO QUARTERLY.
SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE A FEW OTHERS THAT MAY NEED MONTHLY OR AT LEAST EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND THAT WILL ALLEVIATE. BUT THE MORE WE CAN FOLD EXISTING COMMITTEES THAT ARE REDUNDANT AND SUNSET AD HOC COMMITTEES, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HELP.
AND WE MADE THOSE TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ANY SUBJECT MATTER BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE REPETITIVE. MULTIPLE COMMITTEES COVER THE SAME TOPIC. THERE'S. SO THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE LOST.
SO DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF COMBINING COMMITTEES? WE DO, YES.
OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, THIS HAS TO GO TO COMMISSION APPROVAL.
APPROVAL, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO WE'LL CHANGE. I BELIEVE WE. DOES THIS CHANGE THE CODE, RICK? YES, THERE WILL BE CODE AMENDMENTS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE COMMITTEES ARE ALL IN THE CODE.
RIGHT. THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY TO CHANGE. THAT'S ALREADY IN THE.
IN THE CODE THAT THEY. THEY MEET ON AT A MINIMUM OF THE SPECIFIC COMMITTEES THE TOPIC MATTER AND SUBJECT MATTER WOULD HAVE TO GO TO.
SO HOW MANY, HOW MANY COMMITTEES DO YOU WANT TO BRING INTO HALF OR NOT HALF, BUT CONSOLIDATE? WELL, SOME. LET ME JUST EXPLAIN THAT. SOME COMMITTEES DON'T HAVE TO BE TOUCHED BECAUSE THEY ALREADY MEET QUARTERLY. SOME COMMITTEES HAVE A PURPOSE WHERE THEY REALLY ONLY HAVE TO MEET LIKE HALF THE YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO APPROVE A BUDGET THAT THEN ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS MANAGES. SO
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THEY WOULD MEET SIX TIMES IN A ROW AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO MEET AGAIN. WHAT'S HAPPENING, THOUGH, IS THAT THEY JUST CONTINUE TO MEET. I MEAN, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS VERY CLOSELY.IF YOU ALL GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO BE THE GATEKEEPERS OF THIS AND REALLY DEMAND THAT THEY CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S. IT'S JUST BECOME THE NORM TO KEEP GOING AND GOING AND NEVER END.
BY THE WAY, I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THAT.
NO, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS AMOUNT OF TIME IS 10 FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS. FULL TIME.
THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF 10 PEOPLE DOING NOTHING.
WELL, HOW ABOUT YOU BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION AND YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR EFFICIENCY, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
THERE'S ONE SUBJECT MATTER WE DID NOT TOUCH, BUT I WANT TO GET YOUR OPINION. WE DID NOT TOUCH THE ONES WHERE THE LIAISONS ARE YOUR AIDS, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR PURVIEW.
BUT WE THINK OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR ALL. BUT WE LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. WE HAVE ANIMAL WELFARE COMMITTEE, ECONOMIC COMMISSION FOR WOMEN. THOSE ARE ALL RUN BY YOU. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO INVADE YOUR PURVIEW.
BUT I THINK THIS RECOMMENDATION IS.
AND THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE THE COMMISSION BOARDS.
I THINK IT SHOULD ALL BE UNIVERSAL, BUT.
SO ARE YOU. IT SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ARE CHAIRED, NOT SHARED, BUT LIAISON BUYER AIDS.
OKAY, GREAT. LESS IS MORE, RIGHT? LESS IS MORE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO MEET MONTHLY. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO MEET. THEY'RE STILL GONNA.
AND THEY STILL GET THE BENEFITS BEING ON.
YEAH, EXACTLY. IT'S JUST THEY'RE GOING TO MEET QUARTERLY INSTEAD OF EVERY MONTH.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'LL MAKE SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES, IF YOU'RE MEETING MONTHLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THINGS TO DISCUSS. AND I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND, LESS IS MORE FOR A LOT OF THESE, INCLUDING FOR NOT JUST SUCKING UP TIME, BUT ACTUALLY MAKING THE COMMITTEES THEMSELVES MORE EFFICIENT.
SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE MULTIFACETED BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE CODE, AND IT'D BE OBVIOUSLY GOING BACK AS A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE THINGS THAT WE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION AND THEN SOME CODE ISSUES. SO I THINK IT'S. IF I'M LOOKING AT THE ITEM RETURNING COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED POLICY DIRECTION REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO CITY CODE AND ENABLING LEGISLATION NECESSARY TO IMPROVE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND MODERNIZE THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. COMMISSIONER SUAREZ MADE THE MOTION. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND WE WILL BE HEARING IT AGAIN AT NEIGHBORHOODS. SAME ITEM.
AND WHEN WILL THAT BE HEARD? NEXT WEEK.
I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S THE DETAIL OF.
YEAH, IT HAS PRINTED, BUT IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
MAYBE THE DETAIL OF. OF. OF THE FOLDING IN, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET INTO THAT HERE. MAYBE THAT COULD BE THE PURVIEW UNDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY CAN TARGET THE FOLD HOLDING IN OF CERTAIN COMMITTEES.
[NB 11. DISCUSSION OF EXTENSION OF THE LINCOLN ROAD OUTDOOR CONCESSION FEE ABATEMENT PROGRAM FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR IN RESPONSE TO CONTINUING CONSTRUCTION-RELATED IMPACT]
GOOD DISCUSSION.MAYOR, CHAIR I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO HEAR MB11.
DISCUSSION OF EXTENSION OF LINCOLN ROAD OUTDOOR CONCESSION FEE ABATEMENT PROGRAM FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR IN RESPONSE TO CONTINUING CONSTRUCTION RELATED IMPACT.
COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ AND JOHN, TURN IT OVER TO BOTH OF YOU ALL.
HI, JOHN, HOW YOU DOING? GOOD.
HOW ARE YOU DOING? JOHN NORRIS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CV LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT. WE'RE ON THE WORLD STAGE RIGHT NOW.
FROM A CLEANLINESS PERSPECTIVE, FROM AN ACTIVATION PERSPECTIVE, CITY LOOKS GREAT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM ON THE SANITATION SIDE, JUST ACROSS THE BOARD. THANK YOU ALL. I. I THINK WE'RE SORRY FOR THE PUN, BUT PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR THE WORLD CUP. THANK YOU. I'LL PASS THAT ALONG TO STAFF.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE EXTENDING THE LINCOLN ROAD OUTDOOR CONCESSION FEE ABATEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. WE HAVE 17 CAFES CURRENTLY AND LINCOLN ROAD IS UNDERGOING MAJOR CONSTRUCTION INCLUDING FROM THE CITY AND CLOSURES OF STORES AND RESTAURANTS. AND THOSE BUSINESSES ARE REALLY STRUGGLING. I KNOW THE CITY RECOMMENDS OFFERING THE ABATEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL
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YEAR AND I SUPPORT THAT. I'D LOVE TO MOVE THAT ITEM SECOND.SO WE'LL SHOW THIS. SORRY, RETURN TO COMMISSIONER WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR ABATEMENT FOR THE EXISTING ABATEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE OUTDOOR CONCESSION FEE FOR LINCOLN ROAD. AND THAT ONE.
SORRY. THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ AND SECONDED BY COMMISSION COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. ALL IN FAVOR?
[NB 2. DISCUSS THE BENEFITS OF ON-DEMAND WATER MOBILITY SERVICES.]
AYE.COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ WANT TO HEAR NB2, THE ON DEMAND WATER MOBILITY MB2 DISCUSS THE BENEFITS OF ON DEMAND WATER MOBILITY SERVICES MB2 SO I WAS APPROACHED BY A RESIDENT ABOUT AN IDEA WHERE AN ON DEMAND WATER TAXI SERVICE COULD HELP SUPPLEMENT OUR FREE SERVICE. THAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE IN THE COUNTY WATERWAYS THAT DO THIS AND THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO OFFER ON DEMAND SERVICE. THIS WOULD BE AN RFP, SO WE'D SEE WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF IT. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A UNIQUE WAY FOR THE CITY TO POTENTIALLY GET INTO A REVENUE SHARE. THE STOPPING POINTS COULD BE AT OUR MARINA. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD DO PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER MARINA LOCATIONS LIKE SUNSET HARBOR. AND THE TIME THAT I'M REALLY THINKING THIS IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL IS DURING HIGH IMPACT WEEKENDS.
IT'S JUST AN IDEA AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, I WAS APPROACHED BY THE POTENTIAL GROUP. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD THEM IS YOU CAN'T DO PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS AT, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE, NOT A PRIVATE, BUT A PUBLIC SEAWALL, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THE ONLY REAL PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS THAT I KNOW ARE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM IS SUNSET HARBOR, THE BOAT RAMP, OR MIAMI BEACH MARINA. RIGHT. AND OTHER LOCATIONS COULD BE WHICH IS PRIVATE VILLAGE OR IS THAT TOO FAR? NORTH BAY VILLAGE.
YEAH, BUT CAN IT CAN BE EXPANDED? YEAH, BUT JUST THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF PORTION. JOSE, WHERE COULD THAT HAPPEN LEGALLY? CURRENTLY SO GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
JOSE GONZALEZ TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY DIRECTOR CERTAINLY THERE IS GROWING INTEREST IN ON DEMAND WATER MOBILITY SERVICES. UNLIKE PUBLIC TRANSIT, WE WATERBORNE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SUCH AS OUR WATER TAXI SERVICE AND ON DEMAND SERVICE WORKS A LOT LIKE A RIDE SHARE, BUT ON THE WATER. THESE ARE TYPICALLY COMPANIES THAT HAVE LICENSED OPERATORS, VESSEL OPERATORS AND THEY ARE APP BASED COMPANIES. AND YOU REQUEST A RIDE, YOU GO INTO THE APP, YOU REQUEST A RIDE MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD AN UBER OR A LYFT. THERE IS GROWING INTEREST, PARTICULARLY IN COASTAL COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OURS. THE CHALLENGE BECOMES WHERE TO PICK UP AND WHERE TO DROP OFF. CERTAINLY PRIVATE MARINAS, PRIVATE DOCKS ARE ELIGIBLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ANY PRIVATE COMPANY CAN ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PRIVATE DOCK OWNER TO PERFORM THOSE PICKUP AND DROP OFF OPERATIONS. IN TERMS OF PUBLIC LOCATIONS, WE HAVE TWO THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. WE HAVE THE MAURICE GIBB MEMORIAL PARK, THE BARRACUD BOAT RAMP THERE AND WE'VE GOT THE MIAMI BEACH MARINA.
WHAT ABOUT CHAIN ROWING CENTER? CAN THAT BE CONSIDERED AS A MID BEACH OPTION? SO THAT'S MORE LIKE A PUBLIC PRIVATE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT ONE. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A, THAT ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC CAN JUST GO THERE AND DOCK AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT WITH THE ROWING CLUB THERE AND BOATS DOING PICKUPS AND DROP OFF THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'D BE A GOOD.
WHAT ABOUT BUT YOU KNOW, SIGNING OFF ON LIKE SPECIFICS OR JUST KIND OF GENERAL.
GENERAL JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY.
BUT NORTH BEACH, YEAH, CERTAINLY MEANS THAT. I MEAN AND WE ARE LOOKING AT DOCKING, POTENTIAL DOCKING LOCATIONS IN NORTH BEACH
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FOR OUR OWN WATER TAXI SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT TO NORTH BEACH. SO GOING BACK TO THE DOCKING LOCATIONS, WE HAVE THOSE TWO, AS YOU ARE AWARE, MIAMI BEACH MARINA.WELL, THERE'S A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SUNTEX AND ESSENTIALLY EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PUBLIC MARINA, SUNTEX OPERATES, MANAGES THAT KNOW THAT THAT MARINA. SO THERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE ALLOWED BY, BY SUN TAX.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN PLACED BY THE CITY COMMISSION ON CHARTER VESSELS, ON PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, OPERATORS. SO WE WOULD NEED TO REVISIT SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS TO SEE IF THEY EITHER PROHIBIT OR RESTRICT A ON DEMAND WATER MOBILITY SERVICE, WHICH IS IN ESSENCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PERFORMING A PRIVATE FUNCTION, THE MARISCAPE MEMORIAL PARK. SO WE'RE OPERATING WATER TAXI THAT DOCKS AT, AT THE FLOATING DOCK THERE AT MAURICE GIBB MEMORIAL.
BUT THAT'S THROUGH A CONCESSION AGREEMENT THAT WAS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED. OUR VENDOR WAS COMPETITIVE, COMPETITIVELY PROCURED THROUGH A SOLICITATION PROCESS.
AND THERE IS A CONCESSION AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS OUR OPERATOR TO PERFORM THAT FUNCTION. SO THERE WOULD LIKELY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR A PRIVATE SERVICE OVER AT MAURICE GIBB PARK.
THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THE BREAK IN AUGUST.
WHY DON'T WE DEFER THIS TO LISTEN TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER AND IN THE MEANTIME GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE CONCRETE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS TO SEE IF THIS IS VIABLE.
MAYBE MEET WITH THE POTENTIAL PERSON THAT'S REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND DISCUSS THOSE FINDINGS IN SEPTEMBER.
MAY I ALSO ADD SOME INSIGHT OR RECOMMENDATIONS IS IF, IF THERE IS A COMPANY THAT WANTS TO SERIOUSLY BUILD OUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SORT OF DEAD ENDS ON THE, LIKE PARKLETS. IF THE COMPANY IS WILLING TO BUILD A DOCK FOR PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS AND BUILD OUT SOME SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THAT COULD BE ALSO BENEFICIAL. YOU KNOW, THERE'D HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, GATES AND SECURITY, NOT SECURITY, BUT IT COULDN'T JUST BE ANYONE GOES ONTO THE DOCK. I WOULD BE, I'D BE OPEN TO HEARING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT SORT OF INVESTMENT. I THINK IT IS A, AN INTERESTING THING THAT. SO I WOULDN'T JUST WANT TO LIMIT IT TO MAURICE GIFT PARK. IT IS A GOOD LOCATION, BUT WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH AT LEAST THE SUNSET NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
AND THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME CODE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE CURRENTLY OUR CODE WOULD PROHIBIT THIS TYPE OF PRIVATE OPERATION OUT OF MAURICE GIBB.
BUT I'M OKAY WITH THE DEFERRAL. AND YOU GUYS COMING BACK WITH SOME MORE.
CAN I JUMP IN, PLEASE? YEAH, OF COURSE.
THANKS, JOSE. I KNOW WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ROUTE GOING NORTH SOUTH, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON FINDING FUNDING FOR IT.
THERE IS POSSIBLY AN OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE BOAT OR WHAT SIZE DOCK, BUT THE END OF BONITA DRIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE COULD BE A REALLY GOOD LOCATION FOR A PICKUP SPOT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN THE CITY IS TO GET TRAFFIC OFF THE ROADS BY HAVING BETTER SOURCES OF TRANSPORTATION GOING NORTH TO SOUTH. I DO LIKE THIS IDEA OF HAVING THESE PRIVATE VENDORS COME IN AND BUILD SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I THINK AS YOU WORK ON INVESTIGATING FURTHER DETAILS AND OPPORTUNITIES, ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IS FINDING A SPOT IN NORTH BEACH. WHETHER IT IS A TEMPORARY SPOT WHERE WE SHARE, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE UP THERE. IF WE APPROACH THE CHURCH, WE. WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, SHUTTERED AND YOU KNOW, IN THEORY IS GOING TO BECOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT SOME POINT, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THERE'S A MOVEMENT TO CHANGE THAT REGARDLESS. OR THIS LOCATION ON BONITA DRIVE.
I THINK IT. THIS CONVERSATION HAS TO INCLUDE A NORTH BEACH PICKUP AND DROP OFF POINT. AND WITH COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO BECOME A CO SPONSOR AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A GREAT INITIATIVE AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION WITH NORTH BEACH INCLUDED.
YEAH. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP, WHAT ABOUT THE STREET END OF 69TH STREET? WHERE JUST NORTH
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OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.YEAH. IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE KING COLD BAY.
BUT IT'S THE STREET END OF 69TH STREET. IT'S LITERALLY ADJACENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT LOCATION THAT'S NEXT TO THE. ALSO CLOSE TO THE POLICE STATION.
IT'S BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BETWEEN THE. CORRECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA AND COMMISSIONER BOT HAD A GREAT POINT.
SHE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH BONITA DRIVE STREET. AND THAT'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THAT STREET END AGAIN.
THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS INVESTIGATION SO FAR HAS BEEN IN THE CONTEXT OF.
OF OUR OWN WATER TAXI SERVICE, WHICH IS A MASS TRANSIT SERVICE. BUT WE, YOU KNOW, ARE HAPPY TO. TO ALSO LOOK AT THESE LOCATIONS FOR POTENTIAL PRIVATE ON DEMAND.
AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE FOR EXAMPLE, A NO BID WAIVER FOR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES OR MAYBE THERE'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT BUILDING OUT INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO US OBVIOUSLY IF THEY CAN BUILD A SORT OF A DOCK.
AND EVEN FOR NORTH BEACH MAYBE EVEN HAVE. NOW THAT THOSE DERELICT BOATS ARE GONE, MAYBE YOU HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO SUNSET HARBOR WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE LITTLE FINGER PIERS AND KAYAK LAUNCHES, WHICH COULD ALSO BE PART OF.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PERMIT FOR A DOCK, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME.
MIGHT AS WELL JUST DO ADD OTHER THINGS IN THERE AS FAR AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR A MINUTE. IT'S GREAT DISCUSSION.
LOVE THIS. AND AS EVERYONE HAS BEEN MENTIONING THERE JOSE AND HIS TEAM HAVE REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB OF MAPPING OUT ADDITIONAL PICKUP AND DROP OFF LOCATIONS. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW IN THIS ON THIS MEETING.
THERE'S ALSO IN THE SOUTH OF 5TH MARINA THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSIONS WITH MOUNT SINAI.
SO ALL THAT AS SUBJECT TO SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING SHOULD BE AS WE'RE DOING SHOULD BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO A SORT OF THIS ADDITIONAL ON DEMAND IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHEN THIS WHERE THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE A SERVICE THAT'S.
THAT'S RUNNING FREE BECAUSE IT MIGHT IMPEDE THEIR BUSINESS AND THIS IS COMING AND IT'S GOING TO COME FAIRLY SOON. SO IT ALL TIES TOGETHER. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I THINK SO. I, I THINK THEY JOSE HAS GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING AT I THINK NECESSARILY BECAUSE IT'S YOU KNOW LIKE A WATER LITERALLY AN UBER OR A TAXI. YOU KNOW FOR MAYBE A INDIVIDUAL OR A FAMILY IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A BIG BOAT.
SO YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC LOCATION COULD BE A. A PRIVATE TO PUBLIC PICKED UP YOUR CONDO BUILDING AND TAKEN TO MONTY'S LET'S SAY FOR DINNER AND IN RETURN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THERE BUT I THINK WE'LL SHOW THE ITEM HEARD AND DISCUSSED AND RETURN TO FERC WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT POINT.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS REFERENCED BUT THE NORTH AND SOUTH POTENTIAL LINKING THE ENTIRE MIAMI BEACH IT WOULD TAKE A DIFFERENT A LOWER SCALE BOAT BUT STILL DEFINITELY DOABLE TO GET UNDER SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE BRIDGES.
BUT THAT'S. THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS AND I KNOW JOSE HAS IT MAPPED OUT. I TOOK A BOAT TOUR WITH JOSE AND HIS TEAM AS WELL. WE LITERALLY MAPPED OUT THE CITY AND DIFFERENT DROP OFF AND PICKUP POINTS BECAUSE CERTAINLY ANYTHING OWNED BY THE CITY IS USABLE AND SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY RIPE FOR DOING IT NOW WITH VERY LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE COST. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE WITH MINIMAL FUNDING WE COULD GET WE CAN REALLY MAKE A TRANSPORTATION AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS IS AND A NUMBER OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE TAKEN TAXI RIDES WITH ME BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING IT. SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING CITIES TO OUR NORTH ARE LOOKING TO LINK TO OUR WATER TAXIS. SO THIS, THIS REALLY HAS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME CAN BE SOMETHING THAT EXPANDS COUNTYWIDE AS OPPOSED TO EVEN JUST A MIAMI BEACH LINK.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR YEARS OF ADVOCACY IN THIS. THE WATER TAXI HAS BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS.
COMMISSIONER DOMINGUEZ AND SUAREZ, THANK YOU FOR EXPANDING, ELABORATING, EVEN UPON IT. I THINK THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY AS WE LOOK, YOU KNOW, FOR ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS. SO JOSE, THANKS FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR CONTINUING TO FACILITATE.
[OB 6. DISCUSS A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA, ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE, AT ITS APRIL 19, 2024 MEETING, TO ACCEPT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION’S UPDATE ON THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PARKING DEPARTMENT ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.]
SO LET'S CLOSE OUT, MR. C.WELL, WE'RE DONE WITH THIS, WILL.
LET'S GET AN UPDATE ON PARKING. THIS IS OB6. I'VE HAD THIS ON FOR A WHILE AND DON'T WANT THIS TO FALL OFF, SO LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THAT. WILL, YOU'RE EITHER THE MOST RESPONSIVE GUY IN THE WORLD, WHICH I THINK YOU ARE, YOU'RE HALFWAY UP HERE
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BEFORE I EVEN CALLED THE ITEM.JUST IN ANTICIPATION, BUT GOOD JOB. LISTEN, UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAD A LOSS THAT THIS WEEK AND I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. OUR HEARTS AND CONDOLENCES THERE FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. I KNOW WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH YOUR, YOUR LEADERSHIP IN HELPING TROOPS PUSH FORWARD.
BUT YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO UH, TO YOU ALL. I, I APPRECIATE IT AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE VERY MUCH.
I'M SORRY, LET ME JUST READ ITEM IN OB6 DISCUSSED THE RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY MIAMI ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC RESILIENCY COMMITTEE AT THE APRIL 19, 2024 MEETING TO ACCEPT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION'S UPDATE ON THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH PARKING DEPARTMENT ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. OB6 WILL MCDONALD DIRECTOR OF PARKING CITY OF MIAMI BEACH SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY ALL ENCOMPASSING UPDATE. I WILL KIND OF GO DOWN EACH OF THEM ONE BY ONE. SOME OF THEM REQUIRE SOME, SOME POSSIBLE ACTION. SOME OF THEM ARE MORE JUST ALONG LINES OF THE. THE THEME OF THE MEMO. AND THAT'S AN UPDATE. I WILL FIRST TALK ABOUT THE. LET'S GO RIGHT DOWN THE LIST, AUTOMATED LOT PARKING LOT ENFORCEMENT. SO THIS IS REGARDING THE PAVE MOBILITY. THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS IN EFFECT WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. THIS REALLY SERVES TO LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER WITHIN THE CITY.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, PAVE WAS HERE FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR DOING A NO ACTION PILOT. WE STARTED THE ACTUAL ACTIONABLE PILOT, WHICH MEANS THAT CITATIONS WENT LIVE ON NOVEMBER 1ST IN ONE LOT. WE STARTED THREE OTHER LOTS ON JANUARY 1ST. I'VE INCLUDED A TABLE WITH THE CITATION DATA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS. SO THIS REALLY JUST ALLOWS US TO.
WE TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THE DEPLOYMENT DEPLOY OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST TO QUALITY OF LIFE, LIFE SAFETY ITEMS. OBVIOUSLY, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THIS HAS BEEN A FOCAL POINT OF THE COMMISSION AND THIS REALLY JUST ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE THAT PUSH WITH THIS.
WE HAVE RECOMMENDED AN EXTENSION OF THIS PILOT. IF THERE IS AN EXPANSION DESIRED BY THE COMMISSION, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN SIT DOWN WITH OUR PARTNERS, TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT EXPANSION, EXPANSION LOOKS LIKE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME CAPITAL COSTS WHEN THEY ARE EXPANDING TO LOTS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE CAMERAS. THEY DO HAVE SOME LOTS THAT THEY HAVE CAMERAS FROM THE PREVIOUS DEPLOYMENT.
SO THIS CAN BE A CONVERSATION THAT CAN BE HAD.
BUT AS I THINK I'VE SHOWN, CAPITAL COSTS ARE BORNE BY US. OR THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION.
NO, THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, I THINK I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE THEME OF THIS GOES ALONG WITH. I FEEL WHAT I'VE SHOWN DURING MY TENURE IS THAT I LOVE TECHNOLOGY. IT IS WHETHER IT'S GARAGES, WHETHER IT'S IN LOTS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE STREET, TECHNOLOGY CAN ALLOW US TO DO OUR JOB BETTER. ENDING RESIDENT TOES THE TEXT BEFORE TOW ALL OF THESE ARE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES AND OUR TEAM WILL ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT WE DO IT IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
BUT IT ALLOWS OUR TEAM TO REMAIN EFFECTIVE IN THE FIELD.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE HEARD A THEME FROM THIS COMMISSION UP HERE, AND ESPECIALLY FROM THIS BODY, IS EFFICIENCY, GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY, WORK. I DON'T WANT TO SAY WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER. I'LL SAY WORK SMARTER.
BUT WHERE. LET'S WORK HARDER IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE CAN LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO WORK SMARTER AND MORE EFFICIENT. IN SOME AREAS. I SEE THIS FIRSTHAND FOR MY PRIVATE SECTOR JOB. MY OFFICE ON 17TH AND ALTON, SO JUST TWO TO THE EAST OF US, WE HAVE A PUBLIC LOT. AND AS RECENT AS JUST YESTERDAY, I, I WALK THROUGH THERE, I SEE LIKE 15 DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR VANS, RIGHT. AND THERE WILL BE SOME DAYS WHERE I SEE YOUR SPECIALISTS GOING THROUGH AND WRITING TICKETS, HAVING TO GO ONE BY ONE. WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT? I WOULD RATHER THEM FOCUS ON CLEANING UP OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE FLAMINGO PARK AND SOUTH OF 5TH. UTILIZE OUR RESOURCES THERE. IF WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN SMARTLY IMPLEMENT THAT IN AREAS.
RIGHT. THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE GOTCHA FOR RESIDENTS OR VISITORS. BUT IF WE HAVE CONTRACTOR VANS THAT ARE PARKING IN OUR PUBLIC LOTS, PROBABLY FOR FREE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM IT'S A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. IF THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL GET ONE TICKET EVERY 12 TIMES I PARK.
SO NOT PAYING IS ACTUALLY SMARTER THAN YOU KNOW, PAYING EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THEM. IT'S JUST THE CALCULATION. THIS, THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE. GOTCHA FOR THE GRANDMOM THAT COMES TO THE APPLE STORE. BUT. BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GAMING OUR SYSTEM SAYING, I'M GOING TO PARK HERE EVERY SINGLE DAY AS I CONTRACT TO GO WORK ON THIS BUILDING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT MY DATA SHOWS ME? I'M ONLY GETTING CAUGHT ONCE EVERY 12
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TIMES. BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. THIS FREES THEM UP TO BE THE PLACES THAT THEY NEED TO BE. AND WE CAN USE OUR TECHNOLOGY TO BE THE PLACES THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE. SO I VERY MUCH WELCOME AN EXPANSION OF THIS.YOU JUST EVEN PUTTING THAT OUT THERE INTO THE UNIVERSE KIND OF TELLS ME, TELL ME IF I'M READING IT WRONG. YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, YOU THINK IT'S EFFICIENT, IT WORKS WELL. SO I'D WELCOME AN EXPANSION. YOU KNOW, IN OUR SOUTH BEACH AND EVEN MID BEACH AREAS. I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE LOTS PRECEDED YOUR TIME IN THE MID BEACH AREAS, MAYBE BY THE EDEN ROCK, MAYBE ACROSS THE STREET FROM LIKE THE ADDITION, WHEREVER WE HAVE THAT LOT THERE. BUT TO THE EXTENT WHERE WE DON'T NEED OUR PARKING SPECIALISTS SPENDING THEIR TIME ON COMMERCIAL LOTS. RIGHT, LET'S NOT HAVE THEM DO THAT.
LET'S HAVE THEM FOCUS ON OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
100% AGREE. AND I'LL POINT OUT THAT ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PILOTS IS IN P71 RIGHT BESIDE EDEN ROCK. AND I KNOW WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, THAT LOT HAS APPROXIMATELY 400 SPACES INSIDE OF IT. AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL TO WALK ALONG THAT AND SCAN EVERY SINGLE LICENSE PLATE BY TABLET, REALLY KIND OF, I'LL JUST SAY TRIGGERED ME IN A WAY OF LIKE THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY BETTER WAY THAN THIS.
SO I AM ABSOLUTELY ON BOARD WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. IT WORKS.
THERE'S STILL A. A PART OF IT THAT ALSO WE DO NOT ISSUE CITATIONS TO RESIDENTS. SO THIS IS A RESIDENT SAVIOR. NOW. THE COUNTY DOES GIVE US THE ABILITY NOW TO SEND INVOICES BY MAIL THROUGH A RECENT ORDINANCE CHANGE. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT A MIAMI PARKING AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY OPERATE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THEY'RE AN AUTHORITY, SO THEY DON'T REALLY OPERATE OFF CITATION. THEY OPERATE PURELY ON REVENUE. SO THEY LOVE SENDING INVOICES. SO WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING THAT INTO OUR WORKFLOW AS WELL.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF THIS ROLLS OUT CITY WIDE, THIS TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE USED TO RUNNING IN FOR FIVE MINUTES OR YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY 25 MINUTES. BECAUSE ALSO, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE'S A GRACE PERIOD IN THESE PARKING LOTS. SO NOBODY THAT PULLS IN FOR FIVE MINUTES IS GETTING A TICKET IN THE MAIL. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT IN A FAIR GRACE PERIOD TO LET SOMEBODY COME IN, GET THEIR STUFF READY, GO TO A PAYMENT MACHINE, GET ON THE APP, FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
WE'RE WORKING SOME BOUNDARIES, ARE STILL WORKING IT OUT.
HOW MANY LOTS IS THIS CURRENTLY ON? RIGHT NOW IT'S ON FOUR PARKING LOTS.
AND YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING MORE.
SO I WILL SAY THAT WE DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THE EXTENSION. IF THERE'S AN EXPANSION WARRANTY, WE HAVE TO TALK WITH OUR PARTNERS. AND SO WE DO HAVE CAMERAS AND LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
THERE'S ALSO THAT. THAT ARE THERE FROM THE PREVIOUS PILOT. THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER LOTS. I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, P49, WHICH IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE W, RIGHT 23RD AND COLLINS, PROBABLY VERY SIMILAR IN STRUCTURE, AS ARE THE ONE RIGHT ON 46TH AND COLLINS BESIDE EDEN, JUST FROM THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT PROBABLY GO IN THERE AND SIT AND HOLD A SPACE WITHOUT PAYING. SO WE'VE HAD THE TALKS ALREADY REGARDING LINCOLN LANE SOUTH. A LOT OF THOSE PARKING LOTS.
SO HOW MUCH. HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUE WAS A RESULT OF. OF THIS PROGRAM? SO THESE. THESE CAMERAS PRIMARILY ISSUE $36 VIOLATIONS.
TO CROSSING GUARDS. SO WHICH LEAVES $32 ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW IN THE STRUCTURE. THE ROUGH MATH. VERY ROUGH MATH. THE COUNTY AUTOMATICALLY TAKES A THIRD COUNTY. AND THEN RIGHT NOW, THE. ESSENTIALLY A THIRD GOES TO THE CITY AND A THIRD GOES TO THE VENDOR. TOTAL, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 36,000 TO DATE, AND THAT'S FROM NOVEMBER UNTIL THE END OF MAY.
36,000 CITATIONS. AND SO IF YOU. AND THAT'S HOW MANY HAVE BEEN PAID THROUGH THE COUNTY.
SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT A PARTICULAR LOT MAKING BEFORE AND NOW? WHAT IS IT MAKING NOW? SO THIS IS. SO, IRONICALLY ENOUGH, WE PULLED THE DATA FROM 25 TO 26. THE TRANSACTIONS HAVE ACTUALLY DECREASED IN THESE LOTS. SO THE REVENUE HAS GONE DOWN. BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
I'M TAKING CITATION REVENUE VERSUS ACTUAL TRANSACTIONAL REVENUE. BUT THOSE TWO LIVE
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IN DIFFERENT WORLDS. SO CITATION REVENUE IS ABSOLUTELY GONE UP BECAUSE AS THE CHAIR POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 10 HUMAN BEINGS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND SO YOU CAN GO THROUGH A LOT IN A SHIFT AND THEN NOT COME BACK TO THAT LOT FOR THREE HOURS.AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE STAY IN A LOT OF OUR LOTS, A LOT. THE AVERAGE STAY A LOT OF TIMES IS 2 HOURS, AN HOUR, AND A HALF. AND SO IF SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE FOR 30 MINUTES, WE'LL NEVER CATCH THAT INDIVIDUAL. SO THE CITATION REVENUE IS ABSOLUTELY EXPLODED BECAUSE IN THE.
IN THE PREVIOUS HISTORY, THE CITY NEVER PLACED A PRIORITY ON SENDING TEAM MEMBERS INTO THIS LOT BECAUSE IT JUST, YOU KNOW.
CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DELTA, PLEASE? YEAH, IT'S. IT'S.
I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, FROM A FINANCIAL ASPECT, FROM.
WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO WHAT CAMERAS CAN DO WITH PEOPLE. IT IS EXPENSIVE.
WELL, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME THE AMOUNT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PROCESS THAT IN MY HEAD.
SO WITH THESE FOUR LOTS, WITH ONE BEING THE PRIMARY DRIVER, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT 360,000.
360,000 WHAT? $360,000 THAT HAS COME INTO THE CITY OVER THIS SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTH PERIOD THAT WE WOULD HAVE NOT SEEN TYPICALLY.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR A QUARTER.
SEVEN MONTHS. SEVEN MONTHS NOW FOR ONLY FOUR LOTS. THIS IS FOUR PARKING LOTS. NOW, ONE OF THEM HAPPENS TO BE OUR LARGEST LOT IN THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S. IT WAS A GREAT TEST CASE.
WHICH ONE? P71. SO IT'S 46TH IN COLLEGE, RIGHT BESIDE THE EDEN ROCK.
IN THE PREVIOUS HISTORY, AND I'LL BE VERY BLUNT, SO I LOOKED AT THE TIME PERIOD AND THIS WAS BEFORE I ARRIVED. I WANT TO PUT THAT PRECEDENT OUT THERE. SO THE JANUARY TO THE JUNE BEFORE THE CAMERAS WERE INSTALLED IN 2025, THE DEPARTMENT HAD ONLY WRITTEN 200 CITATIONS IN THAT LOT, WHEREAS THE TOTAL FOR THAT LOT OVER SEVEN MONTHS WAS ABOUT 04,000.
SO LOOK, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EFFICIENCY AND MANPOWER OF THE PARKING DEPARTMENT NOT HAVING TO TAKE TIME TO MANAGE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE EFFICIENTLY, WHY DON'T WE JUST ROLL THIS OUT TO THE REST OF THE CITY? FOR ALL THE PARKING LOTS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, NORTH BEACH, WE HAVE. WHAT IS IT, 92P90. I MEAN, THAT IS A. IT'S A 300 PARKING SPOT LOT. AND I'M ASSUMING NORTH BEACH RESIDENTS WOULD RATHER THE PARKING DEPARTMENT TAKE THEIR TIME ON ENFORCING RESIDENTIAL PARKING AS OPPOSED TO 32 OR $36 CITATIONS AT THE PARKING LOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT'S ANOTHER PARKING LOT THAT WE SHOULD START UTILIZING THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR.
FOR THE LOT, HOWEVER, THAT IS ALSO IN. WE'VE WORKING WITH OUR CFP PARTNERS. THAT'S A LOT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO UNDERGO CONSTRUCTION.
YEAH, BUT THAT COULD BE LIKE A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW.
I KEEP HEARING, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT AND I KEEP HEARING IT COULD BE SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR AND SO I DON'T WANT TO.
OR MAYBE IN GENERAL. YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANY SPECIFIC LOT, BUT I THINK, I MEAN IF WE'RE SEEING EFFICIENCY INCREASES LIKE THIS, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, MY EX MOTHER IN LAW, SHE DRIVES A GREAT TOYOTA CAMRY, LICENSE PLATE VH8 742.
SHE PARKS EVERY TUESDAY AT THE W LOT FOR THREE HOURS WITHOUT ANY TICKETS. OKAY, GOOD, COMMISSIONER.
BUT KIDDING ASIDE, I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING 20 FOLD INCREASES IN EFFICIENCY. LET'S ROLL THIS OUT ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE ONE.
NO, NO, OF COURSE, THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. WE'D LIKE TO, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A FAIR. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THESE FOUR LOTS.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING THIS OUT CITYWIDE, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY WANT A MORE OF A ROBUST CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE INPUT IN. BUT I'M, I'M READY TO JUST MOVE THIS FORWARD CITYWIDE. I DON'T WANT TO JUST LIMIT THIS TO, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE, I THINK THE, THE ASK IS SOUTH OF 23RD. I WANT TO DO THIS ALL, ALL OVER THE CITY AND THEN FREE UP YOUR RESOURCES FOR WHAT MATTERS THE MOST, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL PARKING, COMMERCIAL DELIVERY PARKING, ETC. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO START NEGOTIATING ALL CITY PARKING LOTS WITH THIS
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TECHNOLOGY AND COME BACK TO FERC FOR THE DETAILS OF, OF THAT CONTRACT.ARE THERE. BECAUSE I THINK THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN ONE.
ARE THERE MULTIPLE ITEMS TO THIS UPDATE OR IS THIS THE ACTION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OUT OF HERE? SO YEAH, THE OTHERS, THERE ARE NO I'LL SAY REQUIRED UPDATE OR REQUIRED ACTIONS ON THE REST OF THE UPDATES.
SO LOOK, WELL, WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT, RIGHT? YES.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS BEING PUNISHED BY THIS.
LIKE I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A RESIDENT REGISTERED VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY GET THE FIRST 30 MINUTES FROM.
OR THEY'RE FREE, PERIOD. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO FREE UP ALL THE PARKING RESOURCES TO WHAT WE AS A COMMISSION HAVE REALLY HAMMERED YOU ON. RIGHT.
LIKE YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T BE, YOU GUYS HONESTLY SHOULD NOT BE ENFORCING, YOU KNOW, PARKING AT THESE PARKING LOTS. THE, THE FOR VISITORS. AND THAT SHOULD JUST BE DONE THROUGH AI OR TECHNOLOGY. SO YEAH, EVERY SINGLE PARKING LOT SHOULD HAVE THIS. AND, AND WITH NORTH BEACH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SOMETHING OUT FOR, FOR SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE DEMOLISHED IN 18 MONTHS, MAYBE THREE YEARS, BUT WHO KNOWS? I, MY CONCERN IS GETTING PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFF OF THAT PARKING LOT AND INTO THE NORTH BEACH RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP AND SAY IF THAT'S A, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, PUTTING IT INTO A LOCATION THAT YOU, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE IN POTENTIALLY 18 MONTHS OR A COUPLE YEARS.
MAYBE YOU CAN MOVE THAT EQUIPMENT TO ANOTHER SPOT. SO LET ME, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF THAT'S SOMETHING WOULD BE INTEREST OF YOU.
I'M FRED BRADIMAR, I'M A CO FOUNDER OF PAVE MOBILITY AND WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND THE CITY'S WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT AN EXPANSION AND EXTENSION OF THIS PILOT. EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OF OUR ONLY CONCERNS.
YES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN.
INTERESTED IN THE TERM OF US DEPLOYING CAPITAL AND INSTALLING ANY PARKING LOT IS THE VARIABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO, TO JUST KNOW UP FRONT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AGAIN, IF IT'S 10 LOTS AND ONE OF THEM MIGHT DISAPPEAR IN, IN 18 MONTHS.
YES, WE CAN, WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF IT'S ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOUR LOTS AND THEY ALL MIGHT GO AWAY IN SIX MONTHS. THAT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
NO, BUT THIS PARTICULAR LOT IN NORTH BEACH IS THE BIGGEST LOT AND IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 18 MONTHS TO THREE YEARS WHEN WE WOULD PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE WANT TO FREE UP OUR PARKING RESOURCES ENFORCEMENT OUT OF THAT LOT AND INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO YOU KNOW, I, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT LOT.
IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SHORT LIVED AT FROM THIS POINT, BUT WE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
SO I THINK WE CAN SHOW THIS RETURN TO COMMISSIONER THE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO ADVANCE THE NEW TECHNOLOGICAL PROCUREMENTS AT ALL CITY LOTS AS DISCUSSED.
SO WE'LL SHOW. COMMISSIONER SUAREZ, I THINK MAKING THAT MOTION.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? RETURN TO COMMISSION OF THE FAVOR RECOMMENDATION TO ADVANCE NEW TECHNOLOGICAL PROCUREMENTS AT ALL CITY LOTS, AS DISCUSSED. BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PROCUREMENT, MAYBE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS KEEPING IT GENERIC.
WELL, IF THE INTENTION IS TO STAY WITH PAID MOBILITY, THEN IT WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND TO EXPAND THE CONTRACT WITH PAID MOBILITY. WAVE PROCUREMENT FOR THE CONTRACT.
YOU GUYS FEEL OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY.
TO EXPAND THE PAVE MOBILITY AGREEMENT.
THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES AND WAIVE BIDDING.
MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST ONE THING.
YOU MENTIONED RESIDENTS A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I'LL.
WE'LL EXPLAIN FURTHER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT RECEIVING CITATIONS.
SO BY ZIP CODE, IF WE RECOGNIZE THAT A VEHICLE IS REGISTERED TO MIAMI BEACH, THEY DO NOT RECEIVE A CITATION.
INSTEAD, I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVE A WARNING OR NOTICE LETTER SAYING, HEY, YOU'VE GOT GOT TO PAY.
YOU OWE US 75 CENTS OR SOMETHING. SO THE RESIDENTS ARE BEING EXCLUDED FROM.
FROM THIS TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT. NOW THAT YOU'RE UP HERE, RALPH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PART OF THE CONTRACT WOULD. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING THIS OUT CITYWIDE, I'D LOVE THERE TO BE FUNDS DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE BOTS. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T WANT ANY CURBS THAT ARE BROKEN. I WANT THE LANDSCAPING PERFECT
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TRASH, DEBRIS PICKED UP.I THINK THAT SHOULD FALL, YOU KNOW, ON THE OPERATOR IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, THAT WAY WE CAN FREE UP SANITATION DOLLARS THERE. BUT REMEMBER, WE'RE. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THIS CITYWIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH MORE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREATER REAL ESTATE, AND WE'D WANT YOU TO INVEST IN THE PARKING LOTS INFRASTRUCTURE AND. AND BEAUTIFYING IT. AS FAR AS SANITATION, THE LOOKS, I MEAN, ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? LOOK, IT. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO DOLLARS AND CENTS.
SO, YEAH, IF WE'RE GETTING AN APPROPRIATE SHARE OF THE REVENUES OF THE CITATION, AND THAT'LL BE BETWEEN YOU AND STAFF. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE. I'M NOT GOING TO MICROMANAGE HOW YOU GUYS DO THAT, BUT AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT UP HERE, WE WOULD WANT OUR PARKING LOTS TO BE PRISTINE. OKAY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN THIS AS A NO BID AND WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THIS CITY WIDE, THERE SHOULD BE CERTAINLY A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO OUR LOTS.
SO, BIT OF A SIDE, BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A VENDOR THAT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY TO PROVIDE A 10 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR NOT ONLY OUR GARAGES BUT ALSO OUR PARKING LOTS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I IDENTIFIED WHEN I GOT HERE BECAUSE IT USED TO BE, I'LL SAY BIFURCATED WHERE OUR PARKING LOTS, ALTHOUGH THE REPAIR OR THE STRUCTURE WAS PAID FOR OUT OF PARKING FUNDS, PARKING DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A HAND IN CREATING THAT PLAN. AND SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH OUR FACILITIES PARTNERS TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO BE PART OF CREATING THAT PLAN. AND SO THIS CIP PLAN OVER 10 YEARS WILL NOW ALLOW US TO SAY THAT THIS CONTRACT WILL COME OUT AND SAY THIS LOT NEEDS X DONE THIS YEAR. THIS LOT NEEDS X DONE THAT YEAR.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE A PROGRAM AND A PROCESS ALREADY FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT.
I'M SAYING WE'RE ON THAT PATH BECAUSE I SEE WHAT YOU SEE.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY GO IN TANDEM WITH THIS PROPOSAL. IF IT GOES.
IF IT GETS FAVORABLE VOTES FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
YEAH. IF I COULD ADD ON TO THAT, YES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS SINCE YOU COME ON BOARD. WAS DEVELOPING A LONG TERM, 5, 10 YEAR RENEWAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE EXACTLY.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT OUR LOTS AND GARAGES, BUT IN THIS CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOTS TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL, TO BE PAVED WHEN THEY NEED TO BE STRIPED WHEN THEY NEED TO BE, LANDSCAPING APPROVED WHEN THEY NEED TO BE. THIS IS A SEPARATE ENTERPRISE FUND THAT USES ITS OWN PARKING DOLLARS.
IT'S WELL CAPITALIZED AND HAS THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE THOSE PROJECTS. SO THEY'RE WORKING TOO DILIGENTLY TO PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED PLAN ON THAT. BUT TO THE EFFECT OF THIS AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING THEY COULD DISCUSS OPERATIONALLY ABOUT LIKE CLEANING AND MAYBE MORE OF A MAINTENANCE THING ON A CAPITAL. I THINK THE CAPITAL WE'RE TO GOING.
BUT MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CLEANLINESS AND REMIND ME, IS THE PARKING DEPARTMENT PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION? NO, NO, IT'S ITS OWN SEPARATE ENTERPRISE FUND. IT LIVES OFF OF THE FEES.
HOW IS THAT FUND DOING SO FAR? IT'S DOING WELL. THAT'S WHY IT, IT WILL BE. IF THERE IS A CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDED TO RESURFACE AND BEAUTIFY, LET'S SAY THIS PARKING LOT, THE FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EXECUTE.
ALL RIGHT, SO WELL UNDERSTOOD.
YOU AND YOU AND YOU AND RALPH ARE GONNA HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON.
ON MAKING THIS WORK. OKAY? SIR, IT'S ALL IN THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND LET ME JUST RESTATE THAT LICENSE PLATE NUMBER.
I GOT A COUPLE OTHER LICENSE PLATES. I DON'T KNOW.
LET ME JUST RESTATE THE MOTION SO THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T. I DON'T GET IN TROUBLE WITH HIM. I RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO EXPAND THE PAPER MOBILITY AGREEMENT AND WAIVE FOR ALL CITY PARKING LOTS AND TO WAIVE BIDDING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SUAREZ. SECONDED BY. I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE.
AND WILL, I KNOW THAT WAS JUST ONE COMPONENT. WERE THERE OTHER MATERIAL UPDATES YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH? I DON'T WANT TO OPEN PANDORA'S BOX.
I'M GOING TO. SO THE PURPLE CURBS, ARE WE REALLY TIED TO THAT? SO FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN AESTHETICS IN MY POINT OF VIEW.
SO I WILL SAY THAT THE PURPLE CURVES ARE HAVING THEIR EFFECT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
IN FACT, THERE WAS. THERE WAS A RECENT INSTAGRAM POST WHERE SOMEBODY. THEY TOOK A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR TOW PARTNERS TOWING A CORVETTE OUT OF A 100 BLOCK ON 7TH STREET. AND SOMEBODY SAID, SOUTH BEACH TOW SCAM.
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AND SO THEY WERE LIKE, OH, MAN, THESE TOW COMPANIES ARE SCAMMING. AND THERE WAS A PERSON THAT DROPPED DOWN IN THE CLIENT SAID, THE PURPLE CURVE MEANS LOADING ZONE.WHERE'S THE SCAM WITH A QUESTION MARK? SO IT WAS PROBABLY HIM.
HOW MANY ACCOUNTS DO YOU HAVE? I WILL SAY THIS COLOR CODED CURBS ARE USED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. FLORIDA WAS REALLY BEHIND THE TIMES RIGHT NOW. WE ARE. WE ARE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MPA. I'LL SAY WE ROLLED OUT FIRST. MPA ROLLED OUT LITERALLY WEEKS AFTER US.
DON'T DISAGREE. THERE'S PROBABLY GOOD MERITS TO IT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO, LIKE, FALL ON THE SWORD HERE. IT'S JUST WE PUT SO MUCH LIKE, FOCUS AND ATTENTION ON THE AESTHETICS OF EVERY LAST THING IN OUR CITY. FROM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A COLOR PALETTE IF YOU WANT TO PAINT YOUR OWN HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE TO SELECT FROM.
I JUST LOOK OUT. I'M LIKE, OH, THAT JUST. MAYBE THAT'S MORE OF A PERSONAL OPINION OUT THERE.
NOT TO BEAT IT. NO, NOT TO REALLY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO. YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE I SEE THE PURPLE CURVES AND IT'S. IF THE PAINT'S ALREADY PEELING OFF AND THEY'VE KIND OF PAINTED ON LIKE A BROKEN CURB AND IT KIND OF LOOKS. IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MIAMI BEACH'S STANDARD.
SO THIS IS. WE'LL SAY, LET'S JUST KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TOOK A PAINTBRUSH AND PUT IT OVER.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE THE CHALLENGE WE HAD WHEN EVERYTHING WAS YELLOW, WE WOULD GET THE. I NEVER SAW THE COLOR OF THE CURB BECAUSE WHEN THE YELLOW FADES, IT BLENDS INTO THE EXACT SAME COLOR OF THE CURB. AND PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE PARKING DEPARTMENT HAD A GOTCHA MOMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, AND SO THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE ARE REALLY, REALLY FOCUSING ON PAINTING AND UPKEEP. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM, SMALL BUT MIGHTY, TO CREATE A PLAN WHERE WE CAN START TOUCHING UP THE CURBS FROM NORTH BEACH ALL THE WAY TO SOUTH POINT DRIVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHERE WE JUST GO THROUGH AND CONTINUE TO PLUS THEM UP. MUCH LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING OUR PARKING LOTS BEAUTIFUL, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP OUR CURBS AT THE SAME TIME WELL KEPT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PUBLIC WORKS ITEM.
SORRY, JOHN, BUT YOU HAVE MY WORD WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ATTACK THAT. TRY TO KEEP THESE.
I APPLAUD THE INNOVATIVE THINKING. WE NEED MORE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT INNOVATIVE THINKING IN HERE. I APPLAUD THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. AND IF I WAS IN THE PARKING DEPARTMENT, IT WORKS IN YOURS. KEEPING THE OVERALL AESTHETICS OF THE CITY.
I'M BACK AND FORTH, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND ALL THAT.
AND AGAIN TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF.
YOU GUYS ARE OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
THANK YOU. ANY PRIORITY ITEMS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? WANTED TO TRY AND WRAP UP
[OB 2. DISCUSS ESTABLISHING A MUSCLE BEACH IN NORTH BEACH, CONSIDERING THE WIDELY RECOGNIZED POSITIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH, COMMUNITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE OBSERVED AT MUSCLE BEACH IN SOUTH BEACH, WITH SPONSORSHIP SUPPORT TO OFFSET PROJECT COSTS AND REDUCE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY.]
BY ONE.WHAT ELSE DID YOU HAVE? WE CAN HEAR THE TROLLEY ADS.
OB 2. DISCUSS ESTABLISHING A MUSCLE BEACH IN NORTH BEACH.
CONSIDERING THE WIDELY RECOGNIZED POSITIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH, COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OBSERVED AT MUSCLE BEACH AND SOUTH BEACH WITH SPONSORSHIP SUPPORT TO OFFSET PROJECT COSTS AND REDUCE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE CITY.
OB2, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU BLUSH. YOU LOOK GREAT, DUDE.
I HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON WITH SPONSOR TECHNOGYM. THEIR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 16TH, SO WE DID NOT MAKE IT FOR THIS MEETING.
BUT THEY'RE HOPING TO HAVE A PROPOSAL AND EVEN A RENDERING.
HOPE I HOPE BY THE 16TH WE'LL HAVE WITHOUT THIS.
I MEAN, ARE YOU. IS IT OKAY TO GIVE US SOME BASIC HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THERE MIGHT BE PROPOSAL? I HAVE NOT SEEN A PROPOSAL OF THE. OF RENDERING OF THE EQUIPMENT. WHAT THEY.
THE TERMS. THE TERMS I HAVE VERY INITIAL.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN IN KIND A VALUE IN KIND WHERE WE WOULD PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION. I'VE SEEN AN ESTIMATED VALUE OF THE INSTALLATION MAYBE AROUND THE $60,000 MARK FOR THE CITY.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF MULTI YEAR ARRANGEMENT WITH US FOR THE VALUE IN KIND OF THE EQUIPMENT.
THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YOU THE STAFF RECOMMENDED $300,000.
FOR SO WITH THE SPONSORSHIP IT WOULD ONLY BE THE INSTALL OR WHAT OTHER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. WE DON'T KNOW. WE MEANING THAT THE COMMISSION, THE COMMITTEES WILL WANT TO STOP HERE.
BUT WE WOULD NOT. IF WHAT THEY
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BRING US IN KIND IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT, WE'D BE LOOKING AT FAR LESS THAN $300,000.AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT. SO THAT WAS THE OFFICE OF THE ALLOCATION. IF WE WERE GOING TO COMPLETELY DO IT. SO I THINK THIS GIVES THE MONIES THAT ARE BEING USED ARE FROM A VERY RESTRICTED FUND HAVE TO BE USED IN NORTH BEACH IN A TOURIST AREA WHICH IS. IS LIMITED IN THAT AREA. SO YES, IF THIS ENDS UP BEING EXECUTED I WOULD SEE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR ALLOCATION WOULD NOT BE NEEDED TO EXECUTE THE ULTIMATE PROJECT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT DOES GIVE AMMUNITION TO THE DEPARTMENT TO DELIVER AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT.
OKAY. SO I MEAN I'M. I'M EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. OKAY, VERY GOOD.
DO. DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE COME BACK TO CLOSE THIS. I THINK TO CLOSE THIS OUT.
WHY DON'T WE JUST BRING IT? OKAY.
SO BRING. BRING THE TIME STEP TO FULL COMMISSION.
SO I DON'T. I THINK. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION HERE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE TAKING THAT TO PROCUREMENT. SO YOU'D BE TAKING THAT DIRECTLY TO COMMISSION ANYWAY. OR DO YOU NEED THIS TO. I DON'T.
I HEARD THAT THEY WANTED TO COME BACK HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD JUST CLOSE THIS ITEM AND IT'S A SEPARATE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY TO ENTER INTO THIS IN KIND.
AND I THINK ONCE THIS GETS COMMISSION YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS.
SO THE COMMISSION COULD DECIDE YAY OR NAY OR. OR WHAT SUPPLEMENTS WHAT WE WANT TO SUPPLEMENT.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A PROCUREMENT ASPECT DELIVERY SPONSOR ON THIS.
NO COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE IS THE. THE SOLE SOFT.
I'D LIKE TO BE A CO-SPONSOR ON THIS.
DIDN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO SIX PULL UPS TO BE A SPONSOR.
I CAN DO SIX PULL UPS. I DON'T THINK MS. MAGAZINE CAN, BUT.
SO, THIS WE RETURN TO COMMISSION WITH THE FABLE RECOMMENDATION TO ENTER INTO A SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT FOR NORTH BEACH. MUSCLE BEACH, AS DISCUSSED.
THAT MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SUAREZ.
I'LL SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
EXCELLENT. I THINK WE'LL WRAP THINGS UP. JASON.
THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.