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WELCOME TO OUR OCTOBER 13TH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
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WE HAVE SOME UPDATES AND THEN THE SWEARING IN OF THE PUBLIC.THANK YOU. NO UPDATES. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD, PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL, AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE TODAY VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS 888-475-4499, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 817 4834 7488# OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 817 4834 7488. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK RAISE HAND IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL *9 IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE. BEFORE I SWEAR IN THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT OR OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF.
YOU ARE TESTIFYING. TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED TESTIMONY IN THIS MEETING, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ARGUING AGAINST OR IN FAVOR OF ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR IN EVERY ONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY.
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VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.SO IF YOU'LL BE TESTIFYING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL BE GIVING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO REALLY QUICKLY, SINCE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE HERE ORDER OF OPERATIONS.
THE STAFF'S GOING TO DESCRIBE THE ITEM, GIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE BOARD WILL ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND ONCE YOU CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION WE MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RATHER.
AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTARY.
AND THEN THE BOARD WILL DELIBERATE, HAVE COMMENTARY AFTER THAT.
OKAY. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE SIX OF SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT TODAY.
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YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.I'LL SECOND MOTION PASSES. OKAY. AND OUR FIRST AND ONLY APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS HPB26-0.
I'M SORRY, YES. THANKS, GISELLE. WE DO HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE. ACTUALLY, JUST TO NOTE,
[2. HPB26-0685, CITYWIDE DIGITAL INFORMATION KIOSKS.]
THE APPLICATION FOR THE KIOSK. REMEMBER, INITIALLY THERE WAS AN APPLICATION FOR THREE DIFFERENT SITES, INCLUDING ONE ON ESPAÑOLA AND DREXEL AND TWO ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE LOCATIONS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT THEN CONTINUED THE APPLICATION ALONG DREXEL AND ESPAÑOLA.
SINCE THEN THEY HAVE REVISED THE LOCATION, CHANGED IT TO NOW WASHINGTON AVENUE AND 16TH STREET.
IT'LL BE HEARD BY THE BOARD ON NOVEMBER 10TH, AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY SHOULD HAVE GOT A NOTICE ON THAT APPLICATION FOR THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING. SO THAT WAS THE NOTICE THAT JUST CAME LAST WEEK.
SO THE SO THE APPLICATION WE HAVE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S NOTED AS THE FILE NUMBER HERE. SORRY. TWO.
REGARDING THE LOCATIONS ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.
THE BOARD CONTINUED THE ONE FOR DREXEL AND ESPAÑOLA.
WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIZE AND LOCATION BASED UPON THE SMALL NATURE OF THE STREET THERE.
SO THEY MOVED IT TO 16TH AND DREXEL. AND THAT'S BEEN RE-ADVERTISED FOR THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING, SORRY. 16TH STREET IN WASHINGTON. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, OUR FIRST APPLICATION ON THE AGENDA IS.
[3. HPB26-0701, 1931 COLLINS AVENUE – KITH.]
IS HPB26-0701. THIS IS A 1931 COLLINS AVENUE, AN APPLICATION FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL[00:05:09]
DEMOLITION RENOVATION OF EXISTING GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, INCLUDING THE REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS AND DOORS.INSTALLATION OF NEW TERRAZZO AND DECORATIVE MOSAIC FLOORING.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MOTION FOR THE. FOR THE KIOSK, WE ADVERTISE FOR THE.
FOR THE NOVEMBER. SO 1931 COLLINS AVENUE. THE SUBJECT STRUCTURE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1938 AND DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT ROBERT TAYLOR IS CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC DATABASE IN THE OCEAN DRIVE, COLLINS AVENUE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT TENANT SPACE IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE STORY ADDITION FROM COLLINS AVENUE, AND THAT ADDITION WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1954, WE SUMMARIZED THE APPLICANT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE HISTORIC RESOURCES REPORT OUTLINING THE HISTORY OF THE FRONT OF THE PARCEL, INCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ADDITION IN 1954.
THE PRESIDENT STORE HAS BEEN OPERATING, I THINK, SINCE 2000, 2016.
OUR CONCERN IS WITH THE NARROW SIDEWALK IN THAT LOCATION, WHICH IS ONLY LESS THAN SIX FEET IN WIDTH.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING IF THE BOARD DOES DECIDE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION THAT THE, THAT YOU INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE STOREFRONT IN THAT LOCATION BE SET BACK FIVE FEET TO ALLOW RECESS FOR PEOPLE ACCESSING THE ICE CREAM SHOP TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT BLOCK THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
REGARDING THE PROPOSAL TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE TERRAZZO FLOOR.
JUST ON, I WENT TO THE SITE LAST WEEK. THE TERRAZZO FLOOR IS IN PRETTY BAD CONDITION.
AND WE NOTED THAT THIS IS NOT A HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, LOBBY. THIS IS A RETAIL SPACE.
IF THIS WAS AN HISTORIC LOBBY, LIKE WE SAW THE RALEIGH HOTEL LAST MONTH, WE WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ELIMINATING, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT FLOOR LIKE THAT. IN THIS CASE, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
THE TERRAZZO DOES NOT SPILL OUT INTO THE INTO THE INTO THE ENTRY VESTIBULES.
SO WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL TO REMOVE THE TERRAZZO FLOORING AND REPLACE IT WITH ONE THAT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH THEIR DESIGN WILL STILL BE TERRAZZO FLOOR, WHICH IS INDICATIVE OF OR TYPICAL FOR MOST RETAIL STOREFRONTS.
GO AHEAD NICK. SO IS YES, YES. AND THEY HAVE SAMPLES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING TODAY.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. COME ON UP. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M DAKOTA HENDON OF HNDN ARCHITECTURE, THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
I'M HERE WITH BEN PORTO OF PORTO ARCHITECTURE, THE DESIGN ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
I'LL START WITH THE BUILDING, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS BRIEF, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED ME TO SLOW DOWN ON, JUST LET ME KNOW. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COLLINS AND 20TH STREET.
THE TOWN HOUSE HOTEL WAS BUILT IN 1938 FOR NEWTON RONEY BY ROBERT A TAYLOR.
IT'S A FIVE-STORY ART DECO HOTEL WITH A CORNER TOWER.
BUT OUR, OUR LOCATION OR MOST OF THE RETAIL STORE IS LOCATED WITHIN A ONE-STORY ADDITION THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1954 BY THE ARCHITECT WEINTRAUB. MAURICE WEINTRAUB. SINCE THEN, THE STORE HAS CHANGED, ESPECIALLY THE STOREFRONT HAS CHANGED MANY TIMES OVER ITS LIFE.
BOTH CONCORD CAFETERIA AND THE HOLIDAY RESTAURANT MODIFIED THEIR OWN SPACES.
AND THEN LATER ON WERE FURTHER MODIFIED. HERE'S THE PROPERTY SURVEY THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO A LITTLE BIT LATER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 20TH STREET. REALLY QUICKLY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BRAND.
KITH HAS BEEN IN THIS SPACE SINCE 2016. THEY'RE A WORLDWIDE BRAND.
THEY HAVE STORES IN, IN MANY CITIES THROUGHOUT ALMOST EVERY CONTINENT.
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AND WHAT THIS IS OUR SECOND STORE WITH THEM. WE ALSO WORKED WITH THEM ON THE MIAMI DESIGN DISTRICT STORE HERE IN MIAMI.AND ONE THING THAT'S NOTABLE ABOUT THE BRAND IS THAT THEY'RE NOT REPLICATING A DESIGN ACROSS THE WORLD IN EACH LOCATION THEIR DESIGN IS REFLECTIVE OF THE PLACE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOCATING. SO WE'VE INCLUDED A COUPLE IMAGES LIKE THE ONES ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN.
THAT'S THE LONDON STORE HAS A DARKER VIBE. IT'S PICKING UP ON THE LOCAL KIND OF THE INSTINCTS.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE MIAMI STORE, WHICH IS MUCH THE MIAMI DESIGN DISTRICT STORE, WHICH IS MUCH LIGHTER AND PICKING UP ON KIND OF THE LOCAL VIBE.
SO THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A BRAND PUTTING THEIR STAMP ON THIS STORE.
IT'S THEM CREATING A SPACE THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF, OF THE PLACE.
INSPIRATION WHERE ALL OF THE ICONIC MIAMI BEACH BUILDINGS AND THE KIND OF MAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, MODERN, ELEMENTAL, SCULPTURAL BUT ALSO COLLECTED AND LIVED IN.
THESE ARE THE EXISTING ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING.
THE EXISTING STOREFRONT IS A COMBINATION OF RENOVATION THAT OCCURRED IN 1983 AND 1980, 1991.
VERY SIMPLE STANDARD WHITE STOREFRONT CURRENTLY.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TERRAZZO, THERE'S ALSO LARGE PORTIONS OF CONCRETE THAT HAVE BEEN PAINTED TO TRY TO RESEMBLE THOSE TERRAZZO FLOORS. [LAUGHTER] SO WE'VE BROKEN IT UP TO TRY TO BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DAMAGE THROUGHOUT THAT WE'VE TRIED TO LIKE IDENTIFY IT IN DIFFERENT SPACES TO HELP KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE EACH ARE.
SO THE FLOORING CURRENTLY HAS A SERIES OF CRACKS.
THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE IS MOSTLY CRACKED AND REALLY JUST MISSING LARGE AREAS.
SO IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE LAYOUT OF THE STORE.
WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING TO TRY TO EVEN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW IT WAS THERE [LAUGHTER].
IT WAS ORIGINALLY A RESTAURANT, SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE THEY HAD A MIDDLE CONCRETE THAT THEY THE SERVICE AREA IN THE MIDDLE WAS CONCRETE WHERE, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE. AND THEN PROBABLY THE MORE HISTORIC OR THE MORE INTERESTING ONE IS, IS SECTION D OF THIS SPACE, WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE NEIGHBORING TENANT.
THEY SUBDIVIDED AT SOME POINT. SO IT CHANGES COMPLETELY IN THIS SECTION D.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, ALTHOUGH THIS FLOOR IS QUITE BEAUTIFUL, IT'S BEEN HORRIBLY, HORRIBLY REPAIRED OVER TIME REALLY, REALLY BAD. AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS.
THEY MIX CEREAL WITH IT. IT'S VERY ICONIC FOR THE BRAND.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF THE WORST AREAS AS FAR AS THAT BLACK AND WHITE.
SO JUST SOME ADDITIONAL REFERENCE PHOTOS. I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE.
OKAY. SO AND THEN THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR OUR PROJECT IS BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR RENOVATION.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE AWNINGS WILL BE MAINTAINED, BUT THEY'LL BE REPLACED WITH NEW FABRIC.
AND THEN THE DOORS AND WINDOWS WOULD BE ALL REMOVED.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED ELEVATION SIDE BY SIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO BEYOND THE 20TH STREET FRONTAGE WHERE WE HAVE THE PICKUP WINDOW REALLY REPLICATING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS USING THE EXISTING STRUCTURAL RHYTHM OF THE FACADE WITHOUT ALTERING TOO MUCH OF THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING.
RENDERINGS OF THE FRONT AND SIDE OF THE BUILDING SHOWING THE STOREFRONT DISPLAYS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE AND THE TREATS WINDOW SOME DETAILS OF THOSE ENTRANCES.
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AND THEN AT NIGHT RELATIVELY MINIMAL LOGO SIGNAGE ON THE EXTERIOR.AND A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IS, IS THE INTENTION.
WE'RE PROPOSING IMPACT RATED GLAZING THROUGHOUT DOORS AND WINDOWS AND OUR SIGNAGE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE THREE WALL SIGNS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE PARAPET OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME INTERIOR WINDOW SIGNAGE THAT AT THE ENTRANCES WITH KITH THE LOGO AS WELL.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS SECTION IS JUST TO KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ON THE FLOOR WITH LARGER PHOTOS HERE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IMAGE THAT CONCRETE PAINTED [LAUGHTER] AND BOTH THE MIDDLE AND LEFT PHOTO THE CONCRETE PAINTED TO MATCH THE TERRAZZO WITH ITSELF BEING CRACKED. YOU KNOW, CERTAIN AREAS JUST NOT REFLECTING ANY OF THE CURRENT LAYOUT.
HERE IS THE GREEN ONE, THE YELLOW SPOTTING THE KIND OF INCONSISTENCY.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MEET GISELLE AND MICHAEL AT THE STORE BECAUSE IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WE'RE FOCUSING IN ON THE SAME PHOTO, BUT IT'S REALLY THROUGHOUT IT'S, IT'S QUITE CONSISTENTLY BAD THROUGHOUT.
AND I CAN GO INTO TO MORE OF THOSE PHOTOS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, TRYING TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE, OF SOUTH BEACH OF, OF MIAMI IN GENERAL. AND SO WE HAVE A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES.
SO WE, IT'S A SERIES OF BORDER STONES AND MOSAIC DETAILS THAT WE HAVE KIND OF A SAMPLING OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS. THE STORE IS BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT KIND OF LIKE SCENES.
ONE IS THE MEN'S AREA, ONE IS FOOTWEAR. THEY HAVE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL FOOTWEAR DISPLAY, BEACH RETAIL, MORE BEACH INSPIRED CLOTHING, AND THEN A WOMEN'S AND KIDS SECTION.
SO A MIX OF, OF TERRAZZO AND MOSAIC DETAILING.
THE GRAY STONE IS IN THE BACK OF HOUSE. AND THEN THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST RENDERED IMAGES OF THE INTENTIONS FOR THE INTERIOR OF THE STORE, ALONG WITH SOME REFERENCE IMAGES, LEFT SIDE ARE REFERENCE IMAGES.
RIGHT SIDE ARE THE RENDERINGS OF THE SPACE. SO THIS ONE IS THE WOMEN'S SECTION, OUR BEACH SECTION, THE FOOTWEAR. MEN'S. AND THEN THROUGHOUT THERE'S A USE OF WOOD ACCENT PANELS. AND THEN FOR THE EXTERIOR, THE MATERIALS ARE WHITE ALUMINUM MOSTLY FOR ALL THE REPLACEMENT MATERIALS AND BRASS SIGNAGE. SO TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON, ON THE STAFF COMMENTS, OUR 20TH STREET WALK-UP WINDOW. ONE IDEALLY WE WOULD, WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE THE FIVE-FOOT SETBACK.
WE, WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS COULD DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE ACTIVATION OF 20TH STREET.
CURRENTLY IT'S HEAVILY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN SOME AREAS, BUT IT IS ONE OF THE LESS TRAFFICKED, I BELIEVE, 20TH STREET'S AS FAR AS ACCESS TO THE BEACH IT IS A SHORT SECTION THAT FEEDS FROM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEAD ENDS IN THE CANAL. AND WE THINK THAT THE ACTIVATION OF THAT COULD REALLY BRING SOME INTERESTING ACTIVITY TO THE STREET.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE FRONTAGE AS WELL AS THE RENDERING OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED WINDOW AND SOME JUST REFERENCES. I, I THINK RECENTLY THE FIRESTONE BUILDING WAS ALSO GRANTED A VENTANITA OFF THE STREET.
OBVIOUSLY EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT IS KIND OF A CHARACTERISTIC OF MIAMI BEACH THAT I THINK IS, IS SUPPORTED IN THE, IN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE AREA, THIS BEACH CULTURE OF, OF THE ABILITY TO LEAVE THE BEACH AND GRAB AN ICE CREAM AND GO DOWN THE STREET. SO WE, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE VENTANITA.
SO THAT IS EVERYTHING I HAVE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
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AND THAT WILL BE THE ACCENT STONE IN THE MOSAIC.MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON THE WALK-UP. HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT ALL ABOUT THE STREET REDESIGN? I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE STREET IS BEING REDESIGNED AS PART OF THE SHORE CLUB PROJECT.
OKAY. AND DON'T FORGET, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SHORE CLUB ENTRANCE.
THEIR OLDER BUILDING THAT THEY'RE RENOVATING FOR HOTEL.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ACTIVATION THERE.
THE CURRENT CONDITION, THE WAY IT IS, COULD NEVER APPROVE IT.
THERE'S AN ICE CREAM STORE ON LINCOLN ROAD THAT PUTS SUSPENSIONS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK AROUND TO GET IN BECAUSE IT'S SO POPULAR, AND YOU COULD END UP HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM, WHICH IS THEN A PROBLEM FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AND FOR THE BICYCLISTS AND WHATNOT.
I MEAN, I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M WELL FAMILIAR WITH THAT STREET.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS ALSO WITH THE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING TO LOADING FOR NOT JUST WHAT WILL BE FOR THE SHORE CLUB, BUT ALL FOR THE, SO FOR THE SET BACK. AND SO I HONESTLY THINK THAT UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK THERE, THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT WALK-UP IN MY OPINION.
A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. I'M TRYING TO TRACK WHERE IT IS IN THE PRESENTATION AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, LOVE KITH, LOVE THE DESIGN OF THE EXISTING STORE.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE IT IN MIAMI BEACH.
I'M HAVING ON THE SITE PLAN I GUESS IT'S JUST WHERE IT SAYS TREATS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
WE NEVER QUITE SEE IT IN RELATION TO THE SIDEWALK.
SO I MEAN, IMMEDIATELY WHEN I READ STAFF'S COMMENTS ABOUT IT ONLY BEING FIVE-FOOT NINE, I AGREE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, BUT IS THERE CAN WE LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH IN THE PRESENTATION, LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED THERE, AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE SPACE? YES I KNOW IT'S TIGHT THE WAY YOU HAVE IT LAID OUT IN THE PLAN.
YEAH AND IN THE PRESENT IN THE SUBMITTAL PACKAGE, THERE'S A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN THIS PRESENTATION. YOU SEE THIS SURVEY.
SO THE TREATS WINDOW WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE SIDE STREET HERE AT THE 5.9FT WIDE SIDEWALK AND.
SO IN THE EXISTING LAYOUT, IT'S THESE THREE BAYS OF WINDOWS HERE.
YEAH. I MEAN, WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW IS AND HERE YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD BE IN THIS STRETCH.
AND THE TREATS NOW IS ON THE COLLINS SIDE, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY. SO HERE TREATS. THIS IS THE 20TH STREET FRONTAGE.
RIGHT NOW TREATS IS LOCATED IN THIS FRONT CORNER HERE.
AND THEN HERE YOU SEE THE ON THE SIDE STREET.
THE WINDOW WOULD BE LOCATED IN THAT. YEAH I AGREE.
I MEAN I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO CAUSE SOME HEADACHES THE WAY IT IS.
SO YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD THINKS PART OF THE MOVE IS COMING FROM JUST BEING THERE AND HOW IT DOES, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A LINE. SOMETIMES IT'S POPULAR, BUT IT ALSO THEN LIKE KIND OF ENDS UP BEING OUTSIDE ANYWAYS, LIKE YOU PEOPLE GO IN, IT'S SLOWER PROCESSING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN THERE.
SO THEN IT DOES KIND OF BACK UP IN THE NEW YORK STORE WE JUST RENOVATED ON LAFAYETTE AND BLEECKER, WE MOVED IT FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO OUTSIDE TO DO A WINDOW.
AND THE BENEFIT IS THAT THEY PROCESS PEOPLE SO MUCH FASTER.
SO WHAT WOULD BE TEN PEOPLE WAITING INSIDE IS LIKE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE KIND OF OUTSIDE.
SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE CONCERNS. IT IS TIGHTER OVER THERE.
AND IT'S ALSO LIKE IT'S HEAVILY TRAFFICKED. THERE'S TRUCKS.
IT'S NOT THE SAME AS OUT FRONT, BUT ALSO OUT FRONT.
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ABOUT HERE. ALSO, LIKE OVER THE COURSE OF GETTING INTO NIGHT MEANT NIGHTCLUB OPENS UP NEXT DOOR.LIKE IT'S NOT AN ACTIVATED SIDE STREET. SO THEN IT'S LIKE PEOPLE HANGING OUT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MANAGE SO.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S AWARE OF THIS OR NOT, BUT THE TOWN HOUSE IS IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IN A RESTAURANT CALLED THE ZEBRA CLUB, WHICH WILL BE RUN BY THE SAME PEOPLE THAT OWN SWEET LIBERTY. SO THAT'S THE TOWN HOUSE, WHICH HAS BEEN SLEEPY FOR 20 YEARS.
LOOKS LIKE NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO REINVENT THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF THE SHORE CLUB.
YEAH. AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE OF THE SHORE CLUB, I'M SURE.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING AND STAYING AT THE SHORE CLUB AND OWNING AT THE SHORE CLUB, YOU WANT TO UP YOUR IMAGE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT HONESTLY, I DON'T HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THAT SIDEWALK IS FIVE-FOOT NINE INCHES WIDE.
I EVEN WENT BY IT THIS MORNING. I LOOKED AT THIS.
I SAID, BOY, THIS IS REALLY NARROW. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO FIRST OFF, TAKE THAT PART OUT OF YOUR, YOUR ASK TODAY. AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE STREET DESIGN AND COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE STREET'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, OR TURN AROUND AND GO BACK TO THE CITY AND SAY, CAN YOU REDESIGN THE STREET TO BE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A BUMP OUT WITH A TREE ON THE CORNER.
THEN THERE'S A PARKING SPACE. AND IF SOMEBODY IN THAT PARKING SPACE AND THE BUMP OUT IN THE CORNER, YOU'VE GOT A VERY NARROW AREA TO WALK BY TO GET TO THE BEACH AND YOU WANT TO STICK AN ICE CREAM WINDOW THERE? I CAN'T POSSIBLY VOTE FOR THAT. MITCH. I WILL SAY IT'S NOT THAT DIRECT.
IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE AT THE END OF A TEN YEAR LEASE AND ARE GETTING INTO A NEW ONE.
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE JUST IT'S ACTUALLY NEW TO ME ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TOWN HOUSE, ETC. BUT NOW THAT YOU SAY IT, THE RELATIONSHIP NOW IS SOMETHING I'LL NEED TO THINK THROUGH.
SO I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF NEW AND.
WALK AWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN AN ORDER, AND YOU'RE GOING TO STAND THERE AND WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE THAT ORDER, AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR YOU TO QUEUE TO WAIT FOR THAT.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. MITCH. YEAH. WHAT IS THE FLOORING MATERIAL OF THE ENTRY VESTIBULES? THE WOMEN'S HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FLOORING THAN THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
SO LET ME JUST GET TO THE OUTSIDE. OH THAT'S YEAH. OKAY. AND HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE POSSIBLE LOCATION AT THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 20TH AND COLLINS? THIS WAY YOU COULD CAPTURE PEDESTRIANS TRAVERSING BOTH DIRECTIONS.
FOR TREATS YOU MEAN? YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A THING THAN YOU'RE KIND OF. OKAY, I HEAR.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE DETAIL AND IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF NOTCH AT THAT CORNER WHERE THE LOCATED. THANK YOU. YEAH.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE MOVIE THEATER OPENED ON LINCOLN ROAD AND NOW IT'S DEFUNCT.
AND YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE NOT COMING TO YOUR PLACE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO STAND.
AND IT SEEMS THAT THE CORNER AS [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED.
IT'S TO ME, I MEAN, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE THE DESIGNER HERE [LAUGHTER].
IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PLACE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE OVERHANG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER BECAUSE THE OVERHANG SQUARE IN THE BUILDING IS CHAMFERED AND THAT ALLOWS FOR WHEN IT'S RAINING OR WHATEVER TO FOR WHOEVER IS QUEUING THE PROTECTION.
AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A MUCH MORE GENEROUS AREA OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANKS. ANOTHER QUESTION? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. CAN THEY JUST BUY THOSE PARKING SPACES IN FRONT AND CONVERT THAT WIDEN THE SIDEWALK? [LAUGHTER] NO, NO THEY CAN'T. THEY HAVE TO PAY TO REMOVE THEM.
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THEY CAN PAY TO REMOVE THEM? [INAUDIBLE] SUBJECT TO CITY COMMISSION. SO THE CITY COMMISSION COULD SAY WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE PARKING SPACES. OKAY.BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE MAY BE A PLAN TO REDUCE THE STREET.
THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE A CONDITION SAYING THAT, THAT EITHER THE STOREFRONT SHOULD BE SET BACK FIVE-FEET OR ELSE IF THE CITY HAS A PLAN TO REDO THE STREET, THEN AT LEAST 10-FEET SHALL BE PROVIDED BETWEEN ANY SORT OF WALK-UP WINDOW AND THE, AND THE EDGE OF CURB, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TEN FEET BETWEEN THE STOREFRONT AND A PARKING SPACE OR A STREET.
SO THERE'S A WIDER SIDEWALK IN THE AREA BECAUSE THAT PARKING LOT SHOULD BE EIGHT-FEET WIDE.
EIGHT-FEET YEAH. OKAY. IT SEEMS PRETTY NARROW, THAT CORRIDOR.
I MEAN, THIS WOULD PROBABLY WARRANT LIKE, YOU KNOW, REMOVING THE ON-STREET PARKING SPACES ALONG ONE SIDE AND HAVING A WIDER, YOU KNOW PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE BEACH. IT IS ONE OF THE MORE PROMINENT BEACH.
PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE RIGHT. SO DO YOU NEED TO HAVE ALL THIS PARKING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET? SO IT COULD BE A GOOD AREA FOR THE CITY TO STUDY REMOVING THOSE PARKING SPACES.
I THINK THERE WERE LARGE WHERE THEY LARGE, LARGE TREES THAT KEPT BLOWING OVER DURING THE STORM.
SO THE CITY HAD TO KEEP PUTTING THEM UP AND EVENTUALLY THEY TOOK THEM OUT.
BECAUSE THE TREE PITS ARE SO NARROW. SO I THINK A COMBINATION OF A WIDER SIDEWALK AND LARGE TREES WOULD FIT ALL THE TICK, ALL THE BOXES. BUT TO GET THE TO REMOVE THOSE SPACES WOULD BE A YEARS LONG PROCESS OR SOMETHING.
IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME, WOULD TAKE SOME TIME. YEAH. THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE THEIR PROJECT DELAYED DEPENDENT UPON THAT, THAT HAPPENING. I HONESTLY BELIEVE THERE IS A STREET DESIGN.
IF SOMEBODY WOULD PULL IT UP AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF SHORE CLUB'S PLAN, THE ENTIRE STREET IS BEING REDONE FROM COLLINS TO THE BEACH, AND NO ONE'S BRINGING THAT UP.
I THINK WITH THE UNKNOWNS HERE, MAYBE IF THE BOARD WOULD BE INCLINED TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE APPLICATION AND CONTINUE THE WALK-UP WINDOW SO WE COULD AT LEAST STAFF CAN RESEARCH WHAT IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED OR IS IN PROCESS FOR THAT STREET? AND THEN THE APPLICANT AS WELL TO SEE WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE AND THEN COME BACK IN EITHER NOVEMBER.
IT'S, IT'S TIGHT NEXT MONTH BECAUSE OUR MEETING IS EARLIER NOVEMBER 10TH OR DECEMBER 15TH.
TO COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE ON THAT. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE TO BREAK GROUND? IN TEARS NEXT SUMMER. YOU SAY NEXT SUMMER? I ALSO ADVISE THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD COME IN FOR A PERMIT NOW AND NOT HAVE THAT WALK-UP WINDOW THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO THEY COULD START THE PROCESS AND GET, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS AND THEN, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A MODIFICATION, COME BACK TO THE BOARD IN A MONTH OR TWO. AND IF THE BOARD APPROVES A DIFFERENT LOCATION OR A MODIFICATION, THEY CAN THEN REVISE THEIR PERMIT DRAWING. SO THIS SHOULD NOT REALLY DELAY THE SUBMISSION OF THEIR PERMIT APPLICATION. IT MAY HAVE TO REWORK THEIR INTERIOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T DELAY THEIR PERMANENT SUBMITTAL. YEAH, I'D SAY IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREET ANYWAYS, WE'D WANT TO RECONSIDER POTENTIALLY OUR OWN LOCATION AND ALSO THE INPUT OF PAVEMENT ON THE CORNER.
SO I THINK WE HAVE OUR HOMEWORK TO DO. ALSO, GOING ON. IT MAY BE BUSIER THAN YOU GUYS THINK WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT BEING. SO YOU MAY WANT TO EXPAND IT FURTHER, RIGHT? POTENTIALLY. OKAY. THAT GARDEN AREA THAT YOU SHOW AT THE END OF THE BUILDING IS ALREADY FULLY PLANTED WITH PALM TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THERE'S REALLY NO WAY THAT YOU COULD GO IN THERE AND PUT YOUR WINDOW OFF ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT SOME MAJOR CHANGES THERE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A GRASSED AREA.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE KNEW THAT, BUT THEY'RE SHOWING YOU LIKE A GARDEN AREA AND THE PLANTS.
IT'S FULLY PLANTED. IT'S IN THE PHOTOS, I THINK.
YEAH. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE IS NOBODY ONLINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED AND IN THE CHAMBERS MIKE? ANY DISCLOSURES? ANY DISCLOSURES? GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
I'M MEG LOUSTEAU WITH THE MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE.
WE COMMEND THE APPLICANT'S SENSITIVITY TO THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE AND SURROUNDING CONTEXT, AND BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL PRESENTS A COHESIVE DESIGN THAT WILL ENHANCE THE CHARACTER OF THE STREETSCAPE AND CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THE
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CONTINUATION OF THE TERRAZZO FLOORING FROM THE EXTERIOR TO THE INTERIOR, CREATING A THOUGHTFUL VISUAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO SPACES.WE ALSO WELCOME THE ADDITION OF A WALK-UP WINDOW, WHICH EVOKES THE TRADITION OF MIAMI BEACH'S HISTORIC VENTANITAS BELOVED NEIGHBORHOOD FIXTURES THAT HAVE SERVED BEACHGOERS FOR GENERATIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE TIME FOR BOARD COMMENTARY.
EXCEPTION TO THE WALK-UP WINDOW? OR WOULD YOU PREFER A CONTINUANCE? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BECAUSE WE CAN GO BACK AND KIND OF STUDY THE WALK-UP WINDOW WHILE WE'RE STILL ADVANCING THE PERMIT APPLICATION.
SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WITH THE PICKUP WINDOW, EITHER REVIEWING THE FIVE-FOOT SETBACK AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT KIND OF WHAT THE STREET IS GOING TO BE CHANGED TO.
AND THEN IF WE CAN RELOCATE. I THINK THERE'S A STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITION, RIGHT? TO EXCLUDE THE WALK-UP WINDOW IN THE APPROVAL.
SO WE WOULD APPROVE IT LIKE THAT BUT CONTINUE.
BUT DOES THAT ALLOW THEM TO BEGIN THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES, YES, I WOULD SUGGEST JUST LOOKING AT THE PLANS. I DIDN'T SEE EXPRESSLY YOU SHOWING TERRAZZO ON THE ENTRANCE VESTIBULE.
SO I DO THINK THE BOARD SHOULD REQUIRE THAT, THAT ALSO BE PART OF YOUR APPLICATION TO HAVE THE TERRAZZO AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE STORE VERSUS JUST THE INTERIOR, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THE IN THE MATERIAL, IN THE MATERIAL.
UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING, I DIDN'T SEE A SPECIFICATION FOR THE FOR THE ENTRANCE VESTIBULE, THE RECESSED AREA OFF OF COLLINS AVENUE. YES.
CURRENTLY IT IS NOT TERRAZZO LIKE IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
NEITHER OF THE ENTRANCES. IT'S JUST PINK CONCRETE.
VESTIBULE. AND THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, BETTER FOR THE STORE TO DO THAT. SOUNDS GREAT.
YEAH. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IF THE. AND THE RETHINKING OF THE TREATS AREA, THEY HAVE TO REDESIGN EVERYTHING AND ALL THE OTHER ENTRANCE THAT DOES, DOES THAT REQUIRE THEM TO WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR THE THAT THE WINDOW TO REPRESENT EVERYTHING AND REASSESS. NO, NO. BASICALLY THE BOARD WILL BE APPROVING THE LOCATION OF THE WALK-UP WINDOW.
SO IF THEY WANT TO MOVE IT TO COLLINS AVENUE, MOVE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE EFFECT, THE APPROVAL OF THE OF THE TERRAZO FLOORING REPLACEMENT.
OKAY. SO ORIGINALLY, DO WE KNOW IF THE ENTRY VESTIBULES WERE TERRAZZO? I DON'T THINK THERE'S NONE. THERE'S NONE THERE NOW. I DON'T THINK THEY WERE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS TO BE A TYPICAL AVENUE. AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE INTERESTING.
MAYBE EVEN HAVE A DIFFERENT LIKE A ROUGHER FINISH TO THE TERRAZZO ON THE EXTERIOR VERSUS THE INTERIOR TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, WATER ISSUES. YEAH. AND THE DESIGN WITHIN THE TERRAZZO, OFTEN IT COULD BE THE SAME GEOMETRIC SHAPES WITH. ORDERS YEAH. YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AT EACH ENTRY SO. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE TERRAZZO AT THE ENTRY VESTIBULES AND. IS IT A BIFURCATION OF THE WALK-UP? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WALK-UP WINDOW. YEAH.
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SECOND BY MR. GELPI. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES 6 TO 0 AND A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.I WOULD SUGGEST CONTINUING IT TILL DECEMBER. IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT YOU TOO MUCH OR DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO GET THIS BACK BEFORE THE BOARD NEXT MONTH, NOVEMBER 10TH? FOR NOVEMBER, WE'D HAVE TO RESUBMIT ANY DRAWINGS LIKE ALMOST LIKE IN A WEEK OR TWO.
RIGHT? DECEMBER. DECEMBER 15TH. SO TO SUGGEST THE BOARD CONTINUE THE WALK-UP THE WALK-UP WINDOW PORTION OF THE APPLICATION TO DECEMBER 15TH.
SO WE'LL REALLY DO OUR HOMEWORK AND COME IN FOR THAT.
GREAT. SO THAT'S THE MOTION TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE IT. I'LL MAKE IT. [LAUGHTER].
I'LL SECOND. I'VE MADE IT. WHO MADE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER? MITCH. MITCH. AND SECOND, MR. GELPI. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK. SEE YOU IN DECEMBER THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY INCLUDED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
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THAT'S GOING TO BE ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING REGARDING SIGNAGE ON LINCOLN ROAD TODAY.MICHAEL, I HAVE A QUESTION. AS YOU KNOW, I SERVED ON THIS BOARD IN 2001 THROUGH 2007.
WE HAD NUMEROUS ITEMS. BUT OFTEN OUR AGENDAS WERE FILLED WITH ITEMS AND WE WOULDN'T GET OUT OF HERE UNTIL 4 OR 5 IN THE AFTERNOON.
IS THE REASON OUR AGENDAS BECOMING SHORTER AND SHORTER? IS IT THE ECONOMY? I THINK THE GOOD THING IS A LOT OF THINGS CAN BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL THAT COULDN'T BE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE IN DECEMBER. ALL RIGHT.
JUST, I GUESS BY ITS NATURE THEY'RE SMALLER. AT THIS TIME.
RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO, YOU KNOW THAT BROUGHT THEM TO THIS POINT.
WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF, WORK WITH AN APPLICANT TO REPLACE THE TERRAZZO FLOORING.
AND THEN THE JUXTAPOSITION OF THE GEOMETRIC GREEN PATTERN FOR DIFFERENT STOREFRONTS.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 10TH.
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: November 10th, 2026]
IF ANYBODY COULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. OKAY. AND THEN I THINK WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.