ONE. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 16TH ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETING.
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I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. I'M GOING TO GET STARTED.[ATTENDANCE]
MR. MADDEN, CAN WE GET ATTENDANCE? YES. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL. MISS MORELLI HERE, MISS SILVERMAN HERE.
MR. CINNAMON HERE. MR. FEELY HERE, MR. KOENIG.
YES, MR. NAGLER PRESENT. AND MR. SILVERS, WE HAVE SEVEN OF SEVEN MEMBERS.
WE HAVE PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU, MR. MADDEN. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR ANY UPDATES AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION INSTRUCTIONS AND SWEARING IN THE PUBLIC.
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THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. NO UPDATES. GOOD MORNING.TODAY'S MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
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POUND, OR LOG IN TO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 82869615309.
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YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED TESTIMONY, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO AN ITEM.
EXPERT WITNESSES AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR IN EVERYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN CHAMBERS AND INTENDS TO TESTIFY.
VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN ONE BY ONE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. SO IF YOU'LL BE TESTIFYING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL BE GIVING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
[1. AFTER ACTION REPORT – SEPTEMBER 18, 2026 ]
IF ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND. MINUTES APPROVED. DO WE HAVE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. ALL. ANY OPPOSED? MINUTES APPROVED.
DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES OR WITHDRAWALS? WE HAVE NO REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCES OR WITHDRAWALS.
OKAY. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO PREVIOUS CONTINUED ITEMS.
[2. ZBA25-0177, 3010 ALTON ROAD]
OKAY. OH. ALL RIGHT. IT'S AN EXCUSE. FOR CONTINUANCE.OH, OKAY. I CAN READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST.
OKAY. OKAY. SO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT LISTED, IS IT ON THE AGENDA? IT IS ON THE AGENDA. YES. BUT IT'S LISTED UNDER PREVIOUSLY CONTINUED ITEMS. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR CONTINUANCE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST LISTED AS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE.
OH OKAY. SORRY. I WAS LIKE CONFUSED. MAYBE I HAD THE WRONG AGENDA.
OKAY. SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN. THIS IS ZBA 25-0177.
IT'S FOR 3010 ALTON ROAD. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING AFTER THE FACT VARIANCES FOR LOT COVERAGE, UNIT SIZE, INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACKS, OPEN SPACE AND ARTIFICIAL GRASS REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO LEGALIZE MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING TWO STORY HOME.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE. THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR, FOR SOME TIME, FOR SOME AFTER THE FACT VARIANCES DUE TO SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT PERMITS ON THE HOUSE.
AND ALSO THE INSTALLATION OF ARTIFICIAL TURF THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY WITHOUT, WITHOUT A PERMIT.
THE APPLICANT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY'VE SINCE PROVIDED AS OF THE, AS OF PROBABLY ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, WE RECEIVED AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED ON THE PROPERTY INDICATING IMPROVEMENTS THAT SHOULD BE MADE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE FLOODING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED AS A RESULT OF THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF.
IT HAS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT INCLUDE REMOVAL OF SOME OF THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, CREATING SOME DEPRESSIONS ON THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR STORMWATER RETENTION TO TAKE PLACE, INSTALLATION OF SOME LANDSCAPING AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
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TIME TO ACTUALLY START DESIGNING THESE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SITE AND GET THEM READY FOR THE SITE.AND SO THAT'S, THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE REGARDING THE TURF.
THEY STILL HAVE THE ISSUE REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE ON THE HOME, WHICH INCLUDED ROOMS AND CONVERSION OF AN OLD GARAGE INTO A, AN EFFICIENCY UNIT. AND FOR THAT STAFF HAS LOOKED AT OPTIONS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN BECAUSE THE BOARD WAS NOT PLEASED OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT, WITHOUT A PERMIT.
NEITHER, NEITHER IS THE CITY. SO SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT INCLUDED EITHER DEMOLISHING THAT EFFICIENCY UNIT THAT WAS CREATED OUT OF THE GARAGE, WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE UNIT SIZE OF THE HOME, LIKELY TO THE POINT WHERE THEY THEY WOULD COMPLY AND MAYBE WOULDN'T NEED THE VARIANCES ANYMORE.
AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION THAT STAFF LOOKED AT WAS RESTORING THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE HOME.
THAT THE HOME ONCE HAD AS A WAY TO SORT OF MITIGATE AGAINST THE VARIANCES, IT WOULD NO LONGER QUALIFY AS ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT'D BE A REINTRODUCTION OF THESE ISSUES, BUT IT WOULD MITIGATE THE, THE IMPACT OF THE VARIANCES BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY FOLLOW THE INTENT OF WHAT THE CITY WANTED TO ACHIEVE, WHICH IS TO PRESERVE THESE, THE LOOK OF THESE, THESE OLDER HOMES. SO THOSE ARE SOME OPTIONS STAFF STEPH WANTED JUST THE BOARD TO DISCUSS, TO SEE IF THERE'S A PREFERENCE, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO PROCEED WITH ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER, OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER IDEAS.
THE THIRD OPTION IS TO JUST APPROVE THE AFTER THE FACT VARIANCE AND ALLOW THEM TO KEEP IT. BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THE BOARD WANTS TO GO. SO AND WITH THAT, IF YOU WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO JUST HAVE IT, IT'S ENOUGH.
WELL, I DO HAVE TO ADD ONE IMPORTANT FACT. SO GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MICKEY MORERO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, EVERYTHING ROGELIO SAID IS IS ACCURATE. WE DID.
THE REPORT DID COME IN ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
IT GAVE US WHAT WE NEEDED TO GO FORWARD. HOWEVER, A VERY IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENT AS YOU UPDATE, AS YOU'LL RECALL FROM THE SUMMER, THERE WAS SOME TENSION HERE BETWEEN MY CLIENT AND HER NEIGHBORS, AND THAT CREATED SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH THE APPLICATION. SHE'S NOW HAS A CONTRACT PURCHASER WHO I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MULTIPLE TIMES.
SO WHILE I WAS RECOMMENDING A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE, I THINK HE'LL BE OKAY IF I IF WE ASK FOR TWO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT NEW OWNER, THEY'RE EXPECTING TO CLOSE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, HOPEFULLY.
AND THEN THEY JUST NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF AND MAYBE MODIFY THINGS A LITTLE BIT.
AND I THINK A MONTH IS A LITTLE BIT TOO SHORT TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST BE BACK HERE ASKING FOR ANOTHER CONTINUANCE, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM TWICE. THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT.
AS ANYONE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I HEAR ANYBODY ON LINE.
OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. ANYBODY ONLINE? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
NOBODY ONLINE. OKAY. IS THE NEW BUYER AWARE THAT OF NOT ONLY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR VARIANCES, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE ABILITY TO GET THE VARIANCES.
YES, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM TWO OCCASIONS AND YOU KNOW, THEY ULTIMATELY PROCEED.
THEY'VE ASKED THAT. I WORK WITH THEM TO FINALIZE THE APPLICATION. THAT'S WHY I SAID HOW IT'S CURRENTLY BEING PRESENTED TO YOU. THERE MAY BE CHANGES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED WITH DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK THAT THERE MAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH AND TRY AND FIND A SOLUTION THAT BRINGS US BACK IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY. OKAY. THEY'RE OKAY IF WE TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN WITHOUT A PERMIT.
I MEAN, I WANT TO SIT WITH THEM AND SIT WITH STAFF.
AND OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE PRESENTED THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL GO. I HAVEN'T MET WITH THESE FOLKS IN PERSON, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM TWICE, HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEIR ARCHITECT YET. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT STRONGER. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE IT WILL END UP. SOUNDS LIKE A LAWSUIT READY TO HAPPEN.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ARE WE SELLING PUBLIC COMMENT OR ARE WE? I CLOSED CLOSE, I DIDN'T OPEN TO THE CHAIR, BUT.
JANET STEPPED IN. SO I FEEL LIKE WE OPENED IT.
GOT IT, GOT IT. YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION TO ESTABLISH IT AS ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT.
DID YOU SAY THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S AFTER THE FACT OR THEY COULD.
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BUT THEY'VE REMOVED ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY.SO PUTTING NEW ONES IN TO REPLICATE THAT IS TECHNICALLY NOT ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR OUR CRITERIA.
BUT IT WOULD HELP IN OUR EYES SORT OF MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, THAT IMPACT.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO OH, CLOSED.
OH. AND WE HAD, WE HAD RECOMMENDED A CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING AS WELL.
OKAY. SO THAT'S PERFECT. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD ABOUT THAT DECEMBER 4TH MEETING IT IS THE WEEK OF ART BASEL, SO I MAY BE REACHING OUT TO EVERYBODY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE DATE THAT MIGHT THAT THE CHAMBERS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET TO THE CHAMBERS THAT THAT WEEK. AND BE ABLE TO PARK.
SO THAT SO I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE DATE AND I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO, TO, TO YOU ALL TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PREFERENCE ON, ON A SPECIFIC DATE OR IF THERE'S ANY AVAILABILITY.
ALL RIGHT. I DEFINITELY AGREE TO SWITCH THE DATE.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM ON THAT AGENDA, ONE NEW APPLICATION ON THAT AGENDA.
I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE. SORRY. YEAH. YEAH. I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE.
PROCEDURALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MARRERO. IF THE PROPERTY DOES SELL, THE NEW OWNERS ARE GOING TO COME IN ON JANUARY AND BE ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF'S OPINIONS, OR IS THE PETITION GOING TO BE WITHDRAWN AND REFILED BY THEM.
IT'S NOW THEIR PROPERTY. WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY THE APPLICATION TO MAKE THEM THE APPLICANT, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME PAPERWORK. BUT AGAIN, THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED.
WE SUBMITTED THAT ENGINEERING REPORT TWO WEEKS AGO. THIS HAPPENED AFTER THE CONTRACT.
THIS IS ALL VERY NEW. BUT THEY DID HAVE DO HAVE A CONTRACT.
I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM. SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT. I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE PLANS YET. IT'S ALL HAPPENED VERY RECENTLY. SO IT MAY BE THAT THEIR VISION MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR CLIENT'S.
IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE, BUT IT MAY BE THAT THEY WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
I DON'T BELIEVE SO. BASED ON MY I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY DO WANT TO KEEP THE HOME.
AND THE DETAILS ARE. THEY DON'T. I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
THEY DO WANT TO KEEP THE HOME. THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT ALL DOWN. AND THEY WANT TO WORK TO FIND A SOLUTION, BUT THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP IT UNDER THIS APPLICATION. WELL, UNDER ONE OF THOSE PROPOSALS.
PART OF IT'S DEMOLISHING THE REAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE PLANS THAT ARE GOING TO BIND THEM, THAT THEY ACCEPT THAT NO, NO, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE. THAT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TWO MONTHS.
I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. ISN'T THE HARDSHIP APPLICATION THAT THE, THE ASTROTURF OR THE WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IS BECAUSE THERE'S A HARDSHIP TO A CURRENT OCCUPANT CHILD IN MEDICAL HARDSHIP. THE ASTROTURF.
ACTUALLY, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS THERE HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE ASTROTURF. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE. THERE'S OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE APPLICATION. BUT THIS APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO MOVE IT TO GRASS AND PERMEABLE SUBSTANCES NOT NOT AFTER ASTROTURF.
OKAY. SO THE ENGINEERING REPORT, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO THE REDESIGN IS, IS SORT OF IRRELEVANT.
NOT ENTIRELY. BECAUSE IF AGAIN, THE AT THE JUNE HEARING, THERE WERE CONCERNS BECAUSE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL MASSING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED, STAFF ALSO MENTIONED THAT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE FLOODING. SO I STILL THINK IT'S GERMANE TO THE DISCUSSION, NOT AS TO THE TURF, BUT AS TO THE ADDITIONAL LOT COVERAGE. YES. OKAY.
SO YEAH, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I DIDN'T PICK UP ON.
SO DON'T WE HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO CONTINUE IN A SENSE, BECAUSE NO ONE'S BEING BOUND TO ANYTHING BY CONTINUING, ARE WE? IT'S SORT OF LIKE WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE NEW OWNER.
EXACTLY. I MEAN. I MEAN, LOOK, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IS THAT WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE IS IF A NEW OWNER IS COMING IN TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO, WHAT THEIR POSITION IS, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT'S IF THE PETITION IS KEPT OPEN. IF THEY'RE NOT WITHDRAWING THEIR APPLICATION AND I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE CONTINUE IT AND THEN THE NEW OWNERS DON'T WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION ANYWAY, BUT I GUESS NO HARM THEY COULD WITHDRAW THEN. YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THEY'VE INDICATED TO ME THEY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IT. I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM. BUT AGAIN THAT MAY CHANGE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE COULD CONTINUE IT? WE COULD LOSE TWO MONTHS.
AND I THINK THERE'S AN UNSAFE STRUCTURES. YEAH.
THERE ARE BUILDING VIOLATIONS CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY FOR THIS WORK.
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AND THEY CAN'T GET THE PERMITS BECAUSE PLANNING HAS NOT SIGNED OFF ON THEM PENDING DETERMINATION BY THIS BOARD.SO IF THE CONTINUANCE IS DENIED, THEN THE HEARING WOULD BE TODAY.
AND YOU COULD EITHER GRANT OR DENY THE PETITION OR THEY COULD WITHDRAW IT.
CAN IT BE TRANSFERRED TO NEW OWNERSHIP? THE PETITION? YES. YOU CAN MODIFY THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATION OF THE APPLICATION.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE MAY BE SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THE APPLICATION AND MODIFY IT AS A NEW APPLICANT. AND BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THERE ARE VIOLATIONS. WORK WAS DONE WITHOUT PERMITS.
IT HAS TO BE RESOLVED. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO THIS.
AND MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY WILL KEEP THE APPLICATION MOVING FORWARD.
OKAY. BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO? I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT COMES IN JANUARY.
IF YOU CONTINUE THE MEETING OR WE MAKE A DECISION NOW BASED ON YOUR OWNERSHIP.
I'M CONCERNED THAT IF NOT GRANTED, THEY WOULD THEN BE CONCERNED ABOUT EVEN STAYING ON THE CONTRACT.
THEY DO WANT TO TAKE IT OVER. THEY UNDERSTAND THE VARIANCES AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
I'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES DURING AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
IF THEY WANT, THEY MAY NOT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALL VERY, VERY NEW.
I BELIEVE THEY PLAN TO CLOSE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. ARE THE FINES FOR THE CODE VIOLATIONS BY THE EXISTING OWNER PAID IN FULL? NO, THEY THEY ARE NOT. THEY'RE ACCRUING FINES.
IF THE FINES HAVE NOT STOPPED, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DOCKET ON THOSE THINGS. BUT THAT'S ONCE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, THEN THEY HAVE, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR MITIGATION. NORMALLY, A CLOSING AGENT WILL ESCROW SOME FUNDS PENDING THE APPLICATION FOR MITIGATION.
SO IN ORDER FOR TITLE TO TRANSFER, THOSE FUNDS NEED TO BE PAID.
YEAH. ARE THEY. I'M ASKING KNOW THE THE LIEN THE LIENS WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE SUBORDINATED OR TAKEN CARE OF IF THEY REQUIRE FULL PAYMENT. THEN THE LIEN WOULD BE RELEASED. THE VIOLATION IS STILL OPEN.
THEY MAY NOT BE HAVING A LENDER AND THAT MAY BE THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CLOSING.
IF WE WENT FORWARD TO TODAY, OR THEY WANT TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN APPLICATION OR WITHDRAW IT.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL SPECULATIVE. THE PARTIES, NOT EVEN HERE.
RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE TALKING TO THE NEW PARTY, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I MEAN, LIKE JUST AS A LAWYER AND ETHICS, ETHICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT THE NEW PARTY SHOULD KNOW HOW DISMAYED THIS BOARD WAS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT AND THAT ABSENT A CONTINUANCE, THERE WAS A GOOD CHANCE THAT THIS BOARD WAS GOING TO DENY THESE REQUESTS. SO I THINK THAT IN ALL FAIRNESS, A NEW PURCHASER SHOULD BE TOLD THAT.
UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BOARD? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE? YEAH, I MOVED TO I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M OPPOSED. OPPOSED.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT MAY BE THE LONGEST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
NEXT UP IS ZBA 260201, ALSO KNOWN AS ZBA 250191 AND ZBA
[3. ZBA26-0201, FKA ZBA25-0191 & ZBA24-0162, 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE]
240162. 1691 MICHIGAN AVENUE. OKAY, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS CLOSER THAN 300FT FROM AN[00:20:03]
EDUCATIONAL FACILITY AND CLOSER THAN 300FT FROM A PLACE OF WORSHIP.SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD OF TWO PRIOR TIMES FOR EACH TIME FOR SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT. THIS IS ON A IN THE BUILDING THAT'S LOCATED AT 1691 MICHIGAN.
THIS BUILDING HAS RECENTLY BEEN REMODELED SIGNIFICANTLY.
THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS ALREADY OPEN AND FUNCTIONING.
THEY AS, AS JUST A, AS A BAR AND THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME MODIFICATIONS.
THAT ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT REDUCES THE SCOPE OF THE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT, IT BECOMES A RESTAURANT AND THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO NOT NEED THE VARIANCE FROM THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.
IT WOULD ONLY NEED THE VARIANCE FROM THE SCHOOL AS A RESTAURANT, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO KEEP THE VARIANCES SO THEY HAVE SOME OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY IN CASE THERE'S DAYS WHERE THE WHERE THE KITCHEN'S NOT OPERATING, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE DRINKS. SO AS A RESTAURANT, THE VARIANCE LESSENS. BUT THEY STILL WANT THAT OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY.
SO THEY WANT TO KEEP BOTH VARIANCES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED PREVIOUSLY BY THE BOARD.
THE ADDITIONALLY AND THIS WAS NOT NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS A DECISION THE APPLICANT MADE AND THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE PRESENTING THAT AS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION.
THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE LOUNGE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
WE HAD SOME CONDITIONS IN THE ORDER ALLOWING THEM TO INCORPORATE THAT BUT NOT SELL ALCOHOL THERE.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WISHES TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL THERE.
THE REASON WE INCLUDED THAT WAS BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN ISSUE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES FOR THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE, BUT NOW THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THOSE IMPACT FEES. SO STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO INCORPORATING THAT AREA AS PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT. IF YOU TOUR THE SITE, THIS IS ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME I'M IMPRESSED BY A DRIVEWAY.
THE DESIGN OF IT, THE LIGHTING, AND EVERYTHING IS DONE REALLY NICELY.
SO ALL THE SOUND IS CONTAINED WITHIN THAT DRIVEWAY AREA.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. SO STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS.
AND THEY'VE DONE SO, SO, SO WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUGGESTING SOME OTHER CHANGES REGARDING THAT EMPLOYEE LOUNGE THAT WERE NOT REFLECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THOSE CHANGES. ALL RIGHT.
HAPPY FRIDAY. NICOLAS RODRIGUEZ. 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.
I'M HERE JOINED BY MITCH TOLZIEN, WHO'S BEEN ASSISTING WITH THIS APPLICATION.
AND WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE BLACK LION RESTAURANT GROUP THAT'S A SUBSIDIARY OF RK REZVANI LLC, WHO'S THE MASTER TENANT UNDER A GROUND LEASE WITH THE CITY.
SO IMPORTANTLY, THE CITY IS THE LANDLORD HERE.
IT'S A JAPANESE STYLE SPEAKEASY. IT'S CALLED BAR SHISHI.
IT'S OPEN AND OPERATING. WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS SERVE LIKE JAPANESE STYLE LIGHT BITES,
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ALONG WITH THE SPEAKEASY BAR ATMOSPHERE. SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT KITCHEN COMPONENT.AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT PREVIOUSLY WASN'T PICKED UP IN PERMITTING, AND IT WAS KIND OF AN 11TH HOUR ISSUE THAT WE CAME UP WITH A TEMPORARY SOLUTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD MODIFY THE FLOOR PLAN IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERN.
IF WE COULD CALL UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
IT'S ZONED C THREE. IT'S THE MOST INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY.
IT DOES PERMIT RESTAURANTS AND BARS. THE ONLY ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE RIGHT ON THE EDGE, RIGHT NEXT TO PALM VIEW, WITHIN THE DISTANCE OF THE JOSE MARTI SCHOOL AND THE SYNAGOGUE, WHO WE'VE CONSISTENTLY REACHED OUT TO.
THEY HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THIS APPLICATION. THEY HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE APPLICATION, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE AT THE BUILDING AND AS WELL AS THE JEFFERSONIAN CONDO.
SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THE SPEAKEASY IS OPEN. THAT'S A RENDERING OF IT ON THE TOP RIGHT.
AND THAT'S THE VALET AREA THAT ROGELIO WAS MENTIONING ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SIDE.
IT IS COMPLETED AND THE JEFFERSONIAN THERE. ONE COMMENT WHEN WE GAVE THEM A HEADS UP ABOUT THIS APPLICATION WAS HOW THRILLED THEY WERE WITH THE VALLEY AREA AND HOW IT CAME OUT BECAUSE THEY. EVEN WHEN THERE WAS NO BANK OPERATING IN THAT SPACE, IT WAS A DARK SPACE THAT WAS CREATING ISSUES FOR THEIR BUILDING.
AND THEY'RE JUST REALLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT CAME OUT OVERALL.
AND AS WE WERE MENTIONING, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN COMPLETELY RENOVATED.
IF YOU DRIVE BY THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS A PHOTO FROM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
IT EVEN LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS. NOW AS THEY CONTINUE TO PUT FINISHING TOUCHES ON IT, IT'S BEEN OVER $50 MILLION OF MONEY PUT INTO THIS CITY ASSET INCLUDING THE SPEAKEASY THAT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED HOW THE BUILDING LOOKS AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS AND HOW IT RELATES TO ITS NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS THE VALLEY AREA, AND IT'S A BETTER SHOT BECAUSE YOU SEE THE JEFFERSONIAN CONDO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THAT BUILDING IS. AND BEFORE THAT SOLID WALL WAS THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
IT WAS JUST OPEN TO BALCONIES THAT WERE THERE.
SO UP TO NOW WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES WITH LATE NIGHT VALET NOISE IMPACTING THE JEFFERSONIAN.
THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS HAVE TURNED OUT.
THAT VALET AREA HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH QUEUING SPACE FOR FOR THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT THEY'RE HANDLING.
AND IT HAS BEEN A PRODUCTIVE, GOOD OPERATION.
AND IF YOU SEE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HOW IT CAME OUT, EVEN I WAS IMPRESSED.
THAT'S HOW CLOSE THE ACTUAL FINISHED PRODUCT CAME TO THE RENDERINGS.
AND WELCOME TO PASS BY ANYTIME THEY'RE DOWN THE STREET.
THIS IS THE SHARED CORRIDOR THAT ROGELIO WAS MENTIONING.
THIS. IF YOU TURN LEFT OFF OF THIS CORRIDOR, YOU GO INTO THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
IF YOU TURN RIGHT, YOU GO INTO THE SPEAKEASY AND THERE'S A HOSTESS STAND AT THE END OF THE CORRIDOR.
THOSE ARE LOCKERS. ON THE SIDES ARE VIP ARE LIQUOR STORAGE CABINETS FOR VIP TENANTS IN THE BUILDING.
THIS IS ONE OF THE AMENITIES THAT THEY PROVIDE.
THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE IS REALLY INTENDED AS MORE OF A SPACE, A COMMUNAL SPACE FOR THE BUILDING.
AND THE SPEAKEASY IS A COMMERCIAL BAR. BUT AS THE THE APPLICATION HAS PROGRESSED, THERE'S BEEN A DESIRE TO USE THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE AREA AS OVERFLOW, PERHAPS STORAGE FOR BACK OF HOUSE OR FOR EVENTS, BECAUSE THE SPEAKEASY IS A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.
SO THE HISTORY OF THIS IS IN 2024. THIS VARIANCE CAME BEFORE THIS BOARD.
THEN IN 2025, WE MODIFIED THE FLOOR PLAN TO REMOVE THE THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO PAY IMPACT FEES FOR AN AREA WHERE WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE SERVING ALCOHOL OR FOOD.
IT WAS REALLY JUST A KIND OF A COMMUNAL SPACE FOR THE BUILDING. AS I MENTIONED, WE WENT THROUGH PERMITTING AND LICENSING AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT, FIRE SAYS, ACTUALLY, WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THIS THAT YOU'VE SEPARATED THESE TWO VENUES.
THEY SHARE A COMMON CORRIDOR, SO THEY NEED TO BE ALL CONSIDERED AS PART OF ONE VENUE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO FIX AS WELL AS ADDING THE KITCHEN.
SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE TOP, THE GREEN BOX ON THE TOP, YOU SEE THE KITCHEN, IT'S PRETTY SMALL. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A HUGE RESTAURANT OPERATION JUST TO PREPARE KIND OF LIGHT BITES AND BAR FOOD.
AND ON THE BOTTOM GREEN BOX THAT IS THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S SEPARATED BY THAT CENTRAL CORRIDOR THAT WE SAW THE RENDERING OF.
AND WE BASICALLY ARE JUST COMBINING IT ALL AS ONE VENUE SPACE.
JUST SO YOU SEE THE KIND OF THE EVOLUTION, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.
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SEE, IT'S BOTH THE SPEAKEASY AND THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.ORIGINALLY WE HAD PROPOSED 97 SEATS FOR BOTH SPACES.
IT TURNS OUT A FEW MORE SEATS ACTUALLY FIT IN THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
SO WE'RE UPDATING THAT SEAT COUNT. THEN IN 2025, WE COMPLETELY REMOVED THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SHARED CORRIDOR IS PART OF THE SPEAKEASY.
AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PICKED UP ON.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE WITH TODAY'S ORDER.
IT HAS 128 SEATS. YOU SEE THE KITCHEN ON THE TOP OF THE IMAGE, THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE WITH THE CORRECT LABELING OF THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THERE. IT'S FULLY BUILT. IT'S ALREADY THERE. IT WASN'T DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.
IT WAS DONE COMPLETELY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR PERMITS. IT'S JUST HOW THE SEATS ACTUALLY LAID OUT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY PUT THE FURNITURE. SO IN TERMS OF MODIFICATION OF THE CONDITIONS, WE HAVE A HANDOUT TO MAKE IT EASY, BUT IT'S CONDITION TWO SETS FORTH THE OCCUPANT CONTENT AND THE SEAT COUNT.
SO WE'RE JUST UPDATING THAT TO REFLECT THE FLOOR PLAN AS IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT.
AGAIN, THEY'D LIKE TO USE THAT. IT'S NOT REALLY THEIR INTENT TO USE IT REGULARLY, BUT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IMPACT FEES FOR IT. AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS JUST WE'D LIKE TO SWAP IN THE NEW FLOOR PLAN AS THE CONTROLLING FLOOR PLAN, ATTACH IT TO TODAY'S ORDER, JUST TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AS TO WHICH FLOOR PLAN SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY IN THE RECORD NOW.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. I'D LIKE TO OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE OR ON ZOOM? IS ANYONE ON ZOOM? IF YOU'RE ONLINE AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES? DISCLOSURES. NO THANK YOU. NO HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN TO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE PART IS ACTUALLY ALMOST AS LARGE AS THE.
YES. IT'S ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE ACTUAL SPEAKEASY.
CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO AND THAT'S MEANT TO BE AN AMENITY, PRIMARILY AN AMENITY FOR THE BUILDING.
CORRECT. BUT IN YOUR APPLICATION NOW YOU'RE YOU ARE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PART OF THE ACTUAL ORDER, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO USE THAT FOR PUBLIC, NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE BUILDING.
CORRECT. AFTER HOURS WHEN THE AFTER OFFICE HOURS, WHEN THE OFFICE COMPONENT IS NOT TYPICALLY OPERATING, ISN'T THAT WHEN THE SPEAKEASY IS MOSTLY OPERATING, WHEN THE SPEAKEASY IS OPERATING, THEN THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE AS OVERFLOW. WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? LIKE IF IF THIS WAS AN ENTIRE WHATEVER IT IS, 3500FT² OF OF JUST SPEAKEASY AS OPPOSED TO BROKEN UP INTO TWO SPACES. WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING AS PART OF THE VARIANCES THAT ARE NECESSARY? IT JUST CHANGES THE OVERALL OCCUPANCY. THE VARIANCE STILL HAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WHICH REQUIRES IT BETWEEN 8 A.M.
WE TRY TO AVOID ALCOHOL SALES DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO SELL TO THE PUBLIC BETWEEN 6 P.M.
AND 2 A.M. SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 6 P.M.
AND 2:30 A.M. ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS. OKAY.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE CODE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD SAY THAT IF THE SCHOOL WASN'T THERE AND THEY DIDN'T NEED ANY VARIANCES, IF THEY JUST HAD A 4000 SQUARE FOOT SPEAKEASY ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF AN OFFICE BUILDING, THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE IT WOULD HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES, RIGHT? YEAH. AS LONG AS YOUR OCCUPANCY IS BELOW 199 PEOPLE, YOU CAN GO BY, RIGHT AND HAVE ENTERTAINMENT AND ALCOHOL SOLD BY RIGHT.
AND THEY STILL DO BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR 170, 171.
CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. NAGLER? YEAH. TWO QUESTIONS. WE'RE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CALLING IT AN EMPLOYEE LOUNGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS DURING THE DAY. IT'S SPEAKEASY AT NIGHT.
IT'S IT LOOKS IF YOU GO THERE, IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE SPEAKEASY AREA.
BUT YEAH, IT'S AT NIGHT. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE SPEAKEASY.
IT'S FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED.
THE ALCOHOL PROVIDED EVERYTHING. IT IS THE SPEAKEASY.
CORRECT. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY MORE THAN DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE SPEAKEASY.
WE'RE DOUBLING IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2024.
IT INCLUDED THAT AREA. AND WHAT WAS, IF YOU COULD REMIND ME, WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF NUMBER THREE,
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THE CONDITION THREE WAS. SINCE WE'RE STRIKING IT, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? THE THE. IT WAS ADDED BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DID NOT WANT TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES FOR THAT SPACE.AND SO THAT'S WHY WE REMOVED THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE AREA.
BUT SINCE THEY'RE OKAY PAYING THE IMPACT FEES NOW THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE THE CONDITION THERE.
OKAY. PAYING THE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE THAN DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THEIR PART.
CORRECT. WE CHARGE WE CHARGE BY SQUARE FOOT AND IT'S FOR, FOR A BAR, THE FEE IS PRETTY HIGH AND THEY WANT TO, TO AVOID THAT. BUT NOW IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE OKAY PAYING THE FEE, THEN WE HAVE NO ISSUE ALLOWING THEM TO INCLUDE THAT AREA AND THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY, IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SPACE AND IT'S NOT REALLY INTENDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PACK BOTH SPACES.
AND THEN SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EVENTS AND THINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT. THEIR INTENT REALLY ISN'T TO FILL IT BOTH SPACES UP BECAUSE THAT WOULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE. IT'S REALLY NICE, AND THEY DON'T WANT THEIR EMPLOYEE LOUNGE TO BASICALLY TURN INTO A BAR. I GET THAT, BUT BUT YOU COULD, THEY COULD, THEY COULD IF THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND, LET'S SAY TRUE.
OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU GO THERE NOW, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED, IT'S CLEARLY AN EMPLOYEE LOUNGE.
IT LOOKS THE, THE, THE DECOR IS NOT AS ELEVATED AS THE SPEAKEASY AREA ITSELF.
YOU KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. YOU CAN GO FIRST. JUST GO AHEAD. IF I MAY SUGGEST YOUR DOORWAY GOING FROM THE LIVING ROOM TO THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE VESTIBULE AND FROM THE EMPLOYEE LOUNGE VESTIBULE TO THE FOYER MAY HAVE TO SWING OUT FOR FIRE CODE REGULATIONS. SO FOR THE FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE, YOU MAY WANT TO ASK ABOUT.
DOORS HAVE TO SWING OUT SO PEOPLE CAN GET OUT OF THAT AREA IN CASE OF A FIRE.
OKAY. WE'LL WE'LL NOTE THAT ON THE LIFE SAFETY PLAN, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO RUN THIS THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US VERY CLOSELY ON, ON DEVELOPING THIS AND MAY HAVE JUST BEEN ONE THING THAT WE DIDN'T CATCH, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR.. DO YOU WANT TO. SURE.
I THINK JUST WHAT EVERYONE'S BASICALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS AS OF RIGHT, THIS IS WHAT ORIGINALLY THE PLAN WAS, THEY'RE REVERTING TO THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. AND AS FAR AS THE KITCHEN, THAT'S ALSO THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY WHAT'S THE VARIANCE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING AS FAR AS THE KITCHEN IS CONCERNED, WE'RE JUST STRIKING IT FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION OF NOT HAVING FOOD.
YOU'RE NOT ADDING A VARIANCE BECAUSE OF THE KITCHEN.
IT'S MODIFYING THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. SO BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL AREA, THEY'RE MODIFYING THEIR THEIR SITE PLAN AND BECAUSE THEY'RE MODIFYING THE SITE PLAN, THAT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. THE IMPACT OBVIOUSLY WILL BE A LOT MORE SIGNIFICANT BY HAVING A KITCHEN AND SERVING FOOD.
BUT FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, IT'S WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO DO THAT EITHER WAY.
YES, THEY COULD, THEY COULD. IT'S THAT THEY'RE ADDING AN AREA TO THE, TO THE, TO THE, TO.
THEY'RE ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE AREA THAT THE VARIANCE ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED TO SELL ALCOHOL.
SO BY ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE THEIR SITE PLAN IS BEING MODIFIED.
THEY NEEDED TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO, TO MODIFY THAT SITE PLAN.
THE KITCHEN ACTUALLY LESSENS THE IMPACT OF THE VARIANCE BECAUSE THE CODE ONLY ONLY REQUIRES THAT DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM FOR RESTAURANTS, FROM SCHOOLS. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE SAME DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.
SO ACROSS THE STREET THEY HAVE THE CUBAN HEBREW SYNAGOGUE.
AND SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM THE SYNAGOGUE AS A RESTAURANT, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S TIMES WHEN THEY MAY NOT BE SERVING FOOD, THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. KOENIG. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. HAVE A VERY GOOD WEEKEND. I LOOK FORWARD TO LOOKING AT COMING TO CHECK OUT YOUR VENUE.
IT'S VERY NICE. YOU SHOULD CHECK IT OUT. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. MOVING ON TO NEW APPLICATIONS.
[4. ZBA26-0207, 5801 ALTON ROAD]
ZBA 2602075801 ALTON ROAD. MR. MADDEN. OKAY, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING VARIANCES FOR THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND SIDE FACING A STREET SETBACK IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THIS IS A PROPERTY LOCATED ON ON 50.JUST NORTH OF 50 ON THE CORNER PROPERTY LOCATED ON 58TH AND ALTON ROAD.
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IT'S A, IN THE RS FOUR ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.IT'S A LOT SIZE. THAT'S 14,556FT². AND IT HAS A LOT WIDTH OF 116FT AND A LOT DEPTH OF 125FT.
THE LOT IS SOMEWHAT IRREGULAR WHICH, WHICH CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO READ THE THREE. IT'S THE FIRST ONE IS THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT SETBACK VARIANCE. IT'S A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 7223 B ONE.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS RELATED. IT'S THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT ELEVATION SETBACK VARIANCE.
IT'S A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 7223B2B FROM THE REQUIREMENT THAT AT LEAST 35% OF THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT ELEVATION BE SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET FROM THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK. SO THIS THIS APPLICATION, IT'S IT'S A TWO STORY HOME, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING A SMALL SECOND STORY.
IT'S NOT A VERY LARGE SECOND STORY LIKE WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE.
SO THE CODE PROVIDES THAT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST FLOOR AT 20FT, YOUR SECOND FLOOR HAS TO BE SET BACK TO 40FT, A PORTION OF THEIR SECOND FLOOR, I BELIEVE IT'S A STAIRCASE IS ENCROACHING INTO THAT INTO THAT SETBACK AREA.
SO THEY ARE, THEY ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE AND ARE JUSTIFYING A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND HARDSHIP GIVEN THE, THE, THE SHAPE OF THE LOT. THE OTHER VARIANTS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS RELATED TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT 35% OF THE SECOND FLOOR FRONT ELEVATION BE SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACK. SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE 35FT OF THAT TWO STORY OF THE SECOND FLOOR PART TO BE SET BACK TO 45FT.
THE INTENT OF THIS CODE REQUIREMENT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL SECOND FLOOR THAT GOES FROM END TO END, THAT 35% OF THAT BE SET BACK AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A GIANT FLAT FACADE HOME.
YOU HAVE A HOME THAT HAS A FACADE, THAT HAS SOME MOVEMENT, AND THEY COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THAT.
IT'S A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 7223 B1 FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 15 FOOT SIDE FACING A STREET SETBACK TO ALLOW APPROXIMATELY 79FT² OF AN EXTERIOR STAIRCASE TO ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SETBACK.
SO THEY HAVE A STAIRCASE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO GO TO THAT SECOND LEVEL.
GIVEN THE SHAPE OF THE OF THE LOT, THE END OF THAT STAIRCASE ENCROACHES INTO THE 15 FOOT SETBACK.
IT'S A HARDSHIP BECAUSE THE, AS I SAID, THE LOT IS WIDER IN THE FRONT THAN IT IS IN THE BACK.
SO ONLY A REALLY SMALL PORTION IS ENCROACHING INTO THAT 15 FOOT SIDE FACING A STREET SETBACK.
SO THAT DOES CREATE A HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT.
THE, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A CORNER LOT, IT'S ON A STREET END.
IT DOESN'T IMPACT ANY NEIGHBORS. THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A ENCROACHMENT THAT BRINGS THE, THE, THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE CLOSER TO THEIR HOME.
IT'S NOT A FULL ENCLOSED STRUCTURE. IT'S JUST AN EXTERIOR STAIRCASE.
AND SO THEY DO HAVE A HARDSHIP. THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
THANKS FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S TEN MINUTES.
GOOD. YES THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND. SURE.
GOOD MORNING. MATT BURKE, HOWARD L FERNANDEZ LARKIN AND OFFICES AT 200 SOUTH BOULEVARD IN MIAMI HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE BRADLEY CARLSON REVOCABLE TRUST. AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THE OWNERS ARE BRAD AND TROY.
WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECT FROM STRANG BLANCA MARTINEZ, AND HAVE BEEN ASSISTED BY MY COLLEAGUE ZACH BENJELLOUN, WHO HANDED OUT OUR NEIGHBOR SUPPORT. WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, IF WE CAN CALL THAT UP, PLEASE.
SO YEAH, THIS PROPERTY IS ON UPPER ALTON ROAD.
IT'S VERY UNIQUELY SITUATED. BESIDES, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, THE THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE LOT.
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IT IS BASICALLY VERY, VERY NESTLED WITH A, IT'S A CORNER LOT.THERE'S ALTON ROAD AT THE FRONT, WHICH IS A VERY WIDE OVER 100 FOOT YOU KNOW, MEDIAN BOULEVARD.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE IS AGAIN, A STREET END.
AND BEHIND IS OBVIOUSLY THE, THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF.
SO REALLY THERE'S ONLY ONE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
AND WE HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THEM. WE HAVE A THIRD LETTER.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NO OTHER OPPOSITION YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS SITUATION IS IS ALSO A PLACE WHERE THIS IS AN END USER.
THE EXISTING HOME, AS YOU SAW THERE AND ALSO HERE IN THE, IN THE SURVEY IS IS MUCH LONGER DUE TO ITS OLDER AGE WAS MUCH CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.
AND SO THAT HAS ALL BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BLANCA.
HELLO. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BLANCA MARTINEZ.
MATTHEW MENTIONED, AND I WORK AS FRANK DESIGN.
I AM THE PROJECT ARCHITECT FOR THIS NEW HOME.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATES HOW THE HOME HAS BEEN DESIGNED PRIMARILY AS A ONE STORY STRUCTURE, WITH A SMALL SECOND FLOOR VOLUME PUSHED TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
OUR GOAL WITH THE DESIGN IS TO PROVIDE THE OWNER WITH A HOME THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS, WHILE BEING MINDFUL WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. RATHER THAN MAXIMIZING THE ALLOWABLE SIZE OF THE HOME. WE HAVE KEPT THE RESIDENCE RELATIVELY RELATIVELY MODEST IN SCALE, PROVIDING SPACES THAT OWNERS NEED WHILE MAXIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF LAWN AND OPEN GREEN AREA SPACE THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. THIS FROM RENDERING FROM ALTON ROAD ILLUSTRATES HOW THE HOME IS PRIMARILY A ONE STORY STRUCTURE AND WITH A SMALL SECOND FLOOR BEDROOM.
THE HOUSE IS THE PRIMARY BEDROOM OF THE OF THE OWNERS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THE STAIR VOLUME FOR WHICH WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
THIS PORTION OF THE HOME WAS DESIGNED WITH TRANSPARENCY IN MIND, ALLOWING VIEWS THROUGH THE SPACES AND CREATING LAYERING EFFECTS WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE. NOW IN THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME RENDERING WITH THE STREET TREES HIDDEN FROM IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOME, AS WELL AS THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE TRY TO ACHIEVE WITH THE DESIGN.
AND OUR INTENT IS TO KEEP THE STAIR VOLUME AS VISUALLY LIGHT AS POSSIBLE, WHILE ALLOWING VIEWS THROUGH THE SPACE AND CREATING A LAYERING EFFECT WITH THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPE. WE ARE REQUESTING THAT TWO, THREE VARIANCES FOR THE PROPOSED DESIGN, BOTH OF WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN THIS DIAGRAM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH ONE AT A TIME.
AND WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THE REASONING BEHIND EACH ONE. STARTING WITH THE FIRST VARIANCE, WE'RE REQUESTING TO ALLOW A PORTION OF THE SECOND FLOOR TO EXTEND INTO THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK WHILE KEEPING THIS VOLUME PUSHED AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN NEIGHBOR, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED SECOND FLOOR VOLUME THAT MEETS THE DESIGN INTENT OF THE CODE BY PRESENTING A SETBACK, CREATING SEPARATE PLANES FOR THE SECOND FLOOR VOLUME, BREAKING UP THE ALREADY SMALL FRONT FRONTAGE.
LOOKING AT THE BUILDING ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE STAIR VOLUME EXTENDS LESS THAN SIX FEET FROM THE BEYOND THE MAXIMUM THRESHOLD OF WHAT THE CITY WOULD CATEGORIZE AS A ONE STORY STRUCTURE. THIS ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED HEAD CLEARANCE FOR THE STAIRS TO FUNCTION PROPERLY.
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AND 58 1.5IN AT THE REQUIRED 40 FOOT SETBACK LINE.IN COMPARISON, OUR PROPOSED SECOND FLOOR IS ONLY 38FT FOUR INCHES.
IT IS WIDEST POINT, AND THE PORTION EXTENDING INTO THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK IS LIMITED TO 20FT, 11IN AND A HALF, WITH A APPROXIMATELY NINE FEET IN DEPTH.
THE DEPTH VARIES. AN ENCROACHMENT BECAUSE OF THE CURVED NATURE OF THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
WE ALSO PREPARED A DIAGRAM SHOWING WHAT IS EXISTING VERSUS NEW AND THIS ONE.
VOLUME FOR THE PROPOSED HOME. NOW GOING INTO THE STAIRCASE VARIANCE, SAME THING. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THE TWO LOCATIONS FOR THE VARIANCES AND NOW SUBMITTED INTO THIS INTO THE STAIR LOCATION. THIS ONE DUE TO THE IRREGULAR SHAPE OF THE LOT.
AND IT, IT CREATED AN UNUSUAL SHAPE BUILDABLE AREA, MAKING IT MORE CHALLENGING TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOME'S LAYOUT COMPARED TO A TYPICAL RECTANGULAR LOT. WITH THIS SECOND VARIANCE, WE'RE REQUESTING TO ALLOW A PORTION OF THE EXTERIOR STAIRCASE TO EXTEND INTO THE REQUIRED 50 FOOT SETBACK.
LOOKING ELEVATION, YOU CAN SEE THE. THE. THE WIDTH OF THE STAIRS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE.
BUT IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE PLAN, THE ACTUAL AREA THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS VERY SMALL.
LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THE STAIRCASE, SEVERAL LARGE TREES HAVE BEEN STRATEGICALLY PLACED TO HELP SCREEN THE STAIRS FROM THE STREET. NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND THEY INCLUDE GUMBO LIMBO SCREW, A RELOCATED SCREW PINE, A SILVER WOOTTEN WOOD, A BRIDAL VEIL TREE, TO NAME A FEW, AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE STREET TREES.
AND ALSO IN THIS ONE, WE HAVE OMITTED TO SHOW THE STREET TREES FOR YOU TO SEE HOW THE.
THE LANDSCAPE WITHIN THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY SCREENING THE SPACE.
WE HAVE PREPARED THIS DIAGRAM SHOWING THE DISTANCES FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY POSITIONED THE HOME, THE SECOND FLOOR VOLUME, SORRY, TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT, PROVIDING AN APPROXIMATELY 69FT, SEVEN INCHES OF SEPARATION FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY.
HOME 116FT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND 163FT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
THESE DISTANCES, ALONG WITH THE LIMITED SIZE OF THE SECOND FLOOR VOLUME, DEMONSTRATE HOW THE PROPOSED DESIGN MAINTAINS INSTEAD THE INTENT OF THE CODE, WHILE HAVING NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. REGARDING THE SECOND VARIANCE, THE ENCROACHMENT IS LIMITED TO A SMALL, WEDGE SHAPED PORTION OF THE OPEN AIR EXTERIOR STAIRS, WITH LANDSCAPING PLACED AROUND TO HELP SCREEN IT FROM THE STREET AND THE NEIGHBORS.
OVERALL, BOTH VARIANCES ARE PART OF A CAREFULLY CONSIDERED DESIGN THAT RESPONDS TO THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THE LOT AND RESPECTS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND MAINTAINS INTENT OF THE CODE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT.
THANKS. ARE YOU DONE? YOU WANT SOME MORE TIME? JUST ONE MORE MINUTE AND I'LL JUST CONCLUDE A MINUTE.
THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AGAIN, A NEW HOME FOR BRAD AND TROY.
IT IS VERY LOW SCALE. NOT ONLY IS THE SECOND FLOOR VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT, BUT THE HOUSE IS ONLY 35% UNIT SIZE, SO IT COULD BE UP TO 50. IT COULD BE A MUCH LARGER, A MUCH TALLER HOME.
BY COMPARISON, THE PROPERTY THAT IS TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM, THEY'RE DEVELOPING A NEW UNDERSTORY HOME THAT WILL BE MUCH, MUCH TALLER.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A. BEING SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MEET THE THESE OWNERS NEEDS.
IT'S REALLY OUR VARIANCES ARE ALL ABOUT THE STAIRS RIGHT AT THE FRONT.
IT'S JUST THIS SMALL STAIR THAT MEETS THE TWO STORY SETBACK OF 30FT.
PLUS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT.
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AND THEY ARE EXTERIOR. AND SO WITH THAT, WE DO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF OUR VARIANCES.WE DO AGREE WITH ALL OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANYONE ON ZOOM.
ANYONE ON ZOOM? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NOBODY ON ZOOM.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
YOU. OH, MR. NAGLER, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. LETTERS. MR. SENATOR. I JUST ONE QUESTION. DO YOU ALL GET FLOODING FROM THE GOLF COURSE? SO I NOTICE ON PAGE A 400 YOU HAVE A WALL ON THREE SIDES AND YOU'RE OPEN ON THE GOLF COURSE.
SO I WOULDN'T EXPECT FOR IT TO GET FLOODED. I'M SORRY.
THE REASON I ASK IS LAST MONTH WE HAD A. A PROPERTY THAT WAS GETTING FLOODED BY THE GOLF COURSE.
BY THE GOLF COURSE. THE OWNERS JUST MENTIONED THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAS A RETAINING WALL.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE, I WOULD SAY TWO FEET 2.5FT HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
AND THE GOLF COURSE IS STORMWATER DOESN'T GO ONTO THEIR PROPERTY. SO CORRECT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY 3.5FT. THE NEW YARD IS GOING TO BE 3.5FT ABOVE EXISTING.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, AT LEAST ON THE REAR YARD, WHICH IS BEHIND IN FRONT OF THE GOLF COURSE IS GOING TO BE FOUR FOOT TALL FROM ADJUSTED GRADE. SO WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATION. DEFINITELY THE EXISTING HOMES.
THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WATER GOES ON TO THEM. ALL RIGHT, MR. FELLER. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THE DESIGN.
I THINK YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE NEIGHBORS. AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR CALCULATIONS.
SO GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME.
IT'S VERY, VERY THOROUGH AND BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU.
WORK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAKE A MOTION. VARIANCES BE APPROVED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM CHAIR, MAY I MAY I JUST ASK A QUICK, QUICK REQUEST ON THE LAST ITEM THAT WAS HEARD REGARDING THE SPEAKEASY. THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE.
THAT WAS ON THE HANDOUT WHERE CONDITION THREE WAS STRICKEN.
YES. THAT WAS MY THAT WAS MY MOTION IMPLIED. YEAH.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED. WHAT YOU GUYS VOTED ON. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. ZBA 26020866 50 AND
[5. ZBA26-0208, 6640 & 6650 ALLISON ROAD]
66. OKAY. SO THIS SYNDROME. SORRY. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.OKAY. ZBA 260208 IS RELATED TO 6640 AND 6650 ALLISON ROAD.
THE NORTH END OF ALLISON ISLAND HAS A CUL DE SAC.
AND SO THE PROPERTIES ARE ALL, ALL HAVE A ROUNDED FRONT PROPERTY, A CURVED FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
SO THEY FAN OUTWARD. THIS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE HOME ON THE EASTERNMOST LOT, DEMOLISH THE HOME ON THE WESTERNMOST LOT, AND ESSENTIALLY CREATE AN ADDITION TO THAT TO THE, TO THE EXISTING HOME. DO, DO A, DO AN ADDITION TO THAT EXISTING HOME.
THE EXISTING HOME PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BACK IN 2016 WHICH INCLUDED A VARIANCE OF THE INTERIOR SIDE AND SOME OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS. SO THAT HOME HAS A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF TEN FEET WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE IF YOU WERE
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CONSTRUCTING A NEW HOME TODAY. SO GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE AN EXISTING HOME WITH AN EXISTING SETBACK THAT IS SMALL, THAT CREATES A HARDSHIP ON THE APPLICANT GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, SOME OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS WHICH WHICH WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.WITH HAVING ONE SIDE THAT'S ONLY TEN FEET ON A, ON A LOT THAT IS SO WIDE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF THE SUM OF THE SIDE YARDS, WHICH IS A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 7223 B ONE TO ALLOW SOME OF THE YARD SIDE SETBACKS, SOME OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS OF 33FT WHERE 57FT 57.07FT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THAT TWO STORY ADDITION. SO BECAUSE THE LOT IS BECOMING SO MUCH WIDER, THE SOME OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS GROWS BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED TO BE 25% OF THE LOT WIDTH.
SO BY DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE LOT, THAT THAT 25% SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES.
AND GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SETBACK OF TEN FEET, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SETBACK OF 57FT ON ONE SIDE, WHICH IS WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT HARDSHIP ON THE APPLICANT WOULD BASICALLY MAKE A BIG CHUNK OF THAT LOT UNUSABLE.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED.
THE VARIANCE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, THE SETBACK THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SIDE SETBACK, JUST NOT THE SUM OF THE SIDE SETBACKS. GIVEN THAT ONE SIDE IS SO MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TODAY.
AND SO THE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE VARIANCE.
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCLOSURES. IS TEN MINUTES.
OKAY. WE GET TO SEE YOU ALL DAY. GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN.
MATT AMSTER AT BURKE HOWARD FERNANDEZ LARKIN AND TAPANES 200 SOUTH BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN MIAMI.
HERE TODAY REPRESENTING REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS.
WHICH IS ACTUALLY LENA AND LINO SAPUTO. AND I KNOW THAT THESE OWNERS ARE WATCHING ON ZOOM.
WE HAVE JASON AGOPIAN FROM NOUVEAU ARCHITECTS AND BEEN ASSISTED BY ZACH AT OUR FIRM, WHO PASSED OUT, AS WE DID WITH THE OTHER ONE. OUR NEIGHBOR SUPPORT.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, IF YOU COULD CALL THAT UP, PLEASE.
YOU CAN SEE OUR FRONT PROPERTY LINE IS NOT ONLY VERY CURVED, BUT ALSO EXTREMELY NARROW.
AND THEN THIS ONE OPPOSITE THE OTHER ONE WIDENS AS IT GOES OUT TO THE WATER.
AND THEY HAVE ALREADY NOT JUST PURCHASED BUT DEMOLISHED THE PRIOR HOME ON THE SOUTH.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITION IS GOING TO BE MADE.
BUT JASON HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF AGAIN, MEETING HERE THESE OWNERS NEEDS AND GO AHEAD, JASON, WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN THE PROJECT? SURE. JASON HAGOPIAN NOUVEAU ARCHITECTS, 1512 EAST BROWARD BOULEVARD, FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA. SO GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR.
BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I STARTED WORKING WITH LINO'S COMPANY HEADQUARTER RELOCATION PROBABLY TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THIS HOUSE, WHICH WAS IN 2020. AT THAT TIME IT WAS ALSO VERY KIND OF A STRANGE COINCIDENCE.
SO I NOT ONLY WAS THEIR ARCHITECT, BUT THEN I KIND OF QUICKLY BECAME THEIR NEIGHBOR.
AND OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON TWO OFFICE PROJECT RELOCATIONS WITH LINO INTO MIAMI, AND THEN FORT LAUDERDALE DESIGNED SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR CURRENT HOME AT 6006 50.
OVER THE YEARS, AND IT BECAME A A FRIEND OF THE FAMILY CELEBRATING WITH THEM THEIR SON'S MARRIAGES AND BIRTH OF THEIR GRANDCHILDREN, AND EVEN HELPED SAVE A CHRISTMAS DINNER.
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SO I THINK WHAT HAS, AND WHAT STARTED AS A SECOND HOME HAS NOW BECOME THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.SO THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOWN HERE. IT'S REALLY A FAMILY HOME.
SO IN THIS SHOT, YOU DO SEE KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW.
YEAH, WE ARE KEEPING THE EXISTING HOME. THIS IS JUST AN ADDITION.
THEY HAVE, THEY ARE COMBINING THE PROPERTIES.
WE'RE NOT TEARING DOWN AND STARTING OVER. WE'RE GROWING THE HOUSE THAT THEY ALREADY LIVE IN.
HERE'S THE COMBINED SITE, THE EXISTING ONE STORY.
AND, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A ONE STORY AND TWO STORY.
AND THE ADDITION SITS ON THE FORM OF 6640 LOT AT THE SOUTH.
IT WILL ACCOMMODATE SOME GUEST SUITES FOR THE TWO SONS FAMILIES, THE CHILDREN'S PLAYROOM, FAMILY OFFICE, A GYM AND A GARAGE. AND NOTICE THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT GEOMETRY IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. IN THIS VARIOUS DIAGRAM.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF 57.07FT. SO THE EXISTING HOME, WHICH THE BOARD APPROVED IN 2016, SITS ABOUT TEN FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE THE THE PINK HATCH THAT YOU SEE RUNNING VERTICALLY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THAT REALLY IS ONLY WHERE THE FRONT ONE STORY GARAGE TOUCHES IS ONLY A SMALL WEDGE.
THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING HOME IS ACTUALLY 16FT 7.5IN AWAY FROM THE LOT.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 23 FOOT SETBACK. THAT'S MORE THAN THE 22.83FT MINIMUM INDIVIDUAL SIDE SETBACK.
THE VARIANCE IS ONLY THE SUM. AND I'LL ZOOM IN TO THE NEXT ONE.
HERE YOU CAN SEE. SO THE DASHED RED LINE RUNNING HORIZONTALLY REPRESENTS THE 47FT SEVEN INCHES.
AND THEN THE BLUE AREA REPRESENTS THE 23FT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
AND NOTE THAT ONLY ABOUT 37.5FT OF THE ADDITION ACTUALLY IS AT THE 23.
AND THE REST OF THE HOME IS EVEN FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DESIGNATION TO SEE HERE.
OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THIS AS A QUICK BY RIGHT ANALYSIS.
IF WE WERE ACTUALLY TO KEEP THE TWO LOTS SEPARATE AS TWO SEPARATE LOTS.
BY RIGHT THE SETBACKS COULD BE. WE'RE SHOWING AN EXAMPLE HERE, BUT DOWN TO 15 FOOT.
15.5FT AT THE SOUTH AND TEN FEET. 10.5FT TO THE NORTH.
OR WE COULD EVEN INVERSE THOSE SO IT COULD EVEN BE CLOSER.
SO WE FEEL THE 23 FOOT VARIANCE REQUEST IS IS REASONABLE.
YOU ARE SEEING THE 23 FOOT SETBACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN ON THE LEFT IS WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE LOT ADJACENT TO US.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE, AT MINIMUM, THE CUMULATIVE SETBACK HERE BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES WOULD BE 38FT.
SO WE KNOW THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCERN HERE.
SO WE'VE TREATED THIS EDGE WITH, WITH A LOT OF CARE.
AND BY THAT, I LIKE TO SAY A LOT OF A BIG, A VERY SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
WE HAVE LAYERS OF TREES, PALMS, BOTH EXISTING AND NEW SHRUBS, HEDGES.
AND OUR GOAL IS THAT THAT WE WON'T SEE THEIR HOME AND THEY WON'T SEE US.
IT'S LUSH AND PRIVATE, WITH MATURE PALMS AND LAYERED PLANTINGS ALONG A GARDEN PATH.
SO AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, THE SCREENING WE'RE, WE'RE MAINTAINING ABOUT 28 PALM TREES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY NOW, AS WELL AS PROVIDING 19 MORE PALM TREES, OVER 145 COCOPLUM AND SMALL LEAF CLUSIUS PLANTED AT 36 INCH
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HIGH AND 60 INCH HIGH, RESPECTIVELY, AS WELL AS WELL AS OVER 335 GROUND COVER SPECIES.SO A REALLY NICE DENSE BUFFER ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOME.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SLIDE I LIKE TO SHOW LIKE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH A COMBINED SITE.
LIKE YOU COULD BUILD A VERY MASSIVE HOME IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND WE FEEL LIKE OUR APPROACH, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT, SORT OF CREATES THESE, THIS MORE OF AN OPEN, MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL FEEL THAT I THINK IS MUCH MORE IS SENSITIVE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON ALLISON AND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ENVIRONMENTALLY CONCERNED AND SENSITIVE TYPE OF A PROJECT. AND I LIKE TO SHOW THIS IMAGE.
YOU CAN LOOK STRAIGHT THROUGH AND YOU CAN WALK UNDER THE BRIDGE.
YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THE BRIDGE. SO YES, IT'S IT'S AND WE HAVE LEFT A BUFFER SPACE IN BETWEEN BECAUSE OF COURSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR HOMES, OUR, OUR HOME ON ONE SIDE, THE ADDITION ON THE OTHER, AND THEY FACE EACH OTHER.
AND THIS VIEW IS FROM ALLISON FROM THE CUL DE SAC.
THE ORIGINAL HOME, WHICH WAS ON THE RIGHT, WAS BUILT IN 2017.
OUR NEW ADDITION IS SET WAY BACK FROM THE STREET OVER EXCEEDING THE FRONT SETBACK OF 40FT.
THE REQUEST. MORE TIME. JUST ONE MORE MINUTE.
JUST ONE MINUTE. YEAH, MAYBE I'LL LET I'LL LET MATT KIND OF CONCLUDE.
AND I DO HAVE LINO AND LEAH ARE WATCHING. SO IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR FROM THEM, THEY, THEY CAN CHIME IN. YEAH. NO, I THINK THE DESIGN IS DOING, YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE WAY OF ADDRESSING THIS IRREGULAR LOT.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, LUSHLY LANDSCAPED TO BE, AGAIN, SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBOR.
AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LAYOUT.
SO WE AGREE WITH ALL OF STAFF'S CONDITIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
I DON'T RECALL IF I ASKED FOR ANY DISCLOSURES, SO I'M GOING TO JUST ASK AGAIN, IF NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANYONE ON ZOOM, IF THE OWNERS WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, ANYONE ON ZOOM? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NO HANDS RAISED.
I DO SEE GUILLERMO AND LINA, BUT NO HANDS RAISED.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
THEN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE.
JUST FOR. JUST FOR THE. THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. YEAH.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD IT AS QUICK AS WE CAN. LOOK FORWARD TO THE GRANDKIDS ARE GETTING OLDER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE CALLED SOONER.
ZBA 260209424. EAST TOLEDO DRIVE. OKAY, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED
[6. ZBA26-0209, 424 E DI LIDO DRIVE]
REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF THE FRONT YARD SETBACK IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A SWIMMING POOL ON A PARCEL WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME.WHERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A POOL IS TECHNICALLY THE FRONT YARD.
BECAUSE THE FRONT YARD IS THE NARROWEST SIDE FACING THE STREET.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION SEVEN TWO, 23B12P AND SECTION 7223 B ONE TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED 20 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK TO SEVEN FEET SIX INCHES TO THE WATER'S EDGE.
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IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SWIMMING POOL AND SPA.SO THE THE CODE REQUIRES THAT IN YOUR FRONT YARD.
GIVEN THAT THIS IS THE ONLY LOCATION WHERE THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE A POOL.
IT IS TREATED AS A, AS A BACKYARD. THE APPLICANT HAS THIS AREA FENCED OFF.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE FROM THE STREET.
THERE IS LANDSCAPING THERE. IT'S BEEN FUNCTIONING AS THEIR, AS THEIR OPEN SPACE.
IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE POOL THERE. AND THEY DO HAVE A HARDSHIP GIVEN THAT THE EXISTING HOMES FRONT FACES THE, THE, WHAT WE CONSIDER THE SIDE FACING THE STREET.
ADDING DISCLOSURES. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND HI.
YES, MY NAME IS GONZALO MUNOZ AND SUSANA CORREA.
WE ARE REPRESENTING THE OWNER. I THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO TOO MUCH TO ADD JUST TO SAY THANK YOU TO ROGELIO FOR ALL THE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN SHOW YOU THE THE SITE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. YES. SO AS YOU CAN AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ONLY BIG OPEN AREA THAT WE HAVE IN THIS HOUSE IS IN THE FRONT YARD.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE CAN PUT THE, THE, THE SWIMMING POOL.
SO THIS IS THE, THE, SOME EXISTING PICTURES OF THE AREA THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
THE POOL. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THIS SIDE THERE IS A WOOD FENCE AND A LOT OF HEDGES, SO THERE IS NO VIEW FROM THE STREET. SO THIS IS THE THE EXISTING SITE PLAN WITH THE IN RED YOU HAVE THE THE THE. THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SWIMMING POOL. IT'S A VERY SMALL SWIMMING POOL.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE TO, TO LOCATE THE POOL.
WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPE AREA.
WE ARE IN THE 70, 76% OF OPEN SPACE. AND THIS IS SOME RENDERINGS FOR THE FOR THE POOL. AND THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. YEAH. ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION.
ANYONE ON ZOOM? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OH, WE HAVE ONE PERSON, GUILLERMO SPEARMAN, SIR.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? IF YOU IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. OH, HAND WENT DOWN. SO I GUESS IT WAS A MISTAKE.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL CLOSE THE UNMUTE. UNMUTE. UNMUTE.
HELLO? NEVER MIND. BACK UP. HELLO? HELLO. WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY, GOOD. I AM HERE TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
I DO. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI, MR. RAMOS. I AM THEIR NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH AT 400 EAST TOLEDO DRIVE.
AND I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT OF OF THE WAIVER. AND THEY'RE GREAT NEIGHBORS.
I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IF THIS WAS ACTUALLY A BACKYARD AND NOT A FRONT YARD ACTING AS A BACKYARD, WHAT WOULD THE SETBACK TO THE WATER'S EDGE BE? AND WOULD THIS BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT? IT WOULD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER. MR. NAGLER? IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? NO. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCES.
I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO.
MOTION GRANTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MODIFICATIONS TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BOARD ORDERS.WE HAVE NONE. DISCUSSION ITEMS AND PROGRESS REPORTS.
WE HAVE NO PROGRESS REPORTS OR DISCUSSION ITEMS. FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER, NOVEMBER 6TH. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ITEMS ARE ON THERE?
[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: November 06, 2026]
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE NOVEMBER 6TH AGENDA.LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK THAT. I'LL BE ABSENT FROM THE NOVEMBER MEETING ME AS WELL.
OH, OKAY. 2ND NOVEMBER SIXTH. OKAY. SO THAT LEAVES US WITH FIVE.
OKAY. AND THEN WE YOU MAY WANT TO COME UP WITH A DATE FOR DECEMBER BEFORE THAT.
SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY CAN CONTINUE. OKAY. WE'LL REACH OUT.
OKAY. SO WE'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU IF IF WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
AND IF AND ABOUT MOVING THE DATES FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING.
YEAH. IF THEY MOVE TO DECEMBER, THEN WE DEFINITELY WANT TO NOT HAVE THIS BASEL TRAFFIC GOING ON.
HONESTLY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LIVE ON THE BEACH.
IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET HER AT 9 A.M..
YEAH, YEAH. FRIDAY, FRIDAY. AND THEN WE CAN WALK OVER TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
I WALK HERE, SO IT'S NO PROBLEM FOR ME. OKAY.
SO MAYBE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR OCTOBER 16TH MEETING.
DO I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. GREAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.