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ONE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

THIS IS THE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

I'M, I'M, I'M JOINED BY MY SON, LEO, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ.

IT IS, UH, NOVEMBER 10TH, 2026.

UH, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD? SURE.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

TODAY'S MEETING OF THE LAND USE AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH THE COMMITTEE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS AT MIAMI CITY HALL AND STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, THE PUBLIC CAN DIAL 1-888-475-4499 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 85059923037 POUND OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 85059923037.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IN THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR NINE IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.

THANK YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY AND MADAM PLANNER.

UM, CITY PLANNER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

YES, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL UPDATES ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING.

UM, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.

ITEM NUMBER

[1. DISCUSS DEVELOPING STOREFRONT DESIGN GUIDELINES TO PROMOTE HIGH-QUALITY DESIGN FOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL STOREFRONTS, AND ALLOW FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENTS, WHERE APPROPRIATE, TO INCENTIVIZE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL OWNERS AND TENANTS TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES.]

ONE, UH, THE, UH, COMMISSION SPONSOR HAS REQUESTED THAT BE DEFERRED TO THE JANUARY 24TH MEETING.

ITEM NUMBER, OR EXCUSE ME, THE NOVEMBER 24TH MEETING.

UM, ITEMS NUMBER THREE, FOUR,

[4. DISCUSS POTENTIAL INCENTIVES FOR THE INSTALLATION OF GREEN ROOFS ON NEW AND EXISTING BUILDINGS, INCLUDING POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.]

[5. DISCUSS THE INCORPORATION OF RESILIENCY MEASURES IN CITY PARKS AND GREENSPACE PROJECTS.]

[6. REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLORE AND RECOMMEND NEW, MORE FORWARDLEANING RESILIENCY CODE UPDATES FOR OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT.]

AND...

NO, EXCUSE ME.

ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX HAVE ALSO, UH, REQUESTED A DEFERRAL.

[3. REVIEW AND CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO CITY POLICIES TO PRIORITIZE EXPANDING PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GREEN SPACE, ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING, AND REDUCE POLLUTION.]

SO WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, ITEM ONE, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, UH, DEFERRALS TO THE NOVEMBER 24TH MEETING.

THAT LEAVES US WITH ONLY ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO BE HEARD TODAY.

EXCELLENT.

SHOULD BE A SHORT

[2. CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO PERMIT A TEMPORARY SALES BUILDING WITHIN THE ALTON BEACH BAYFRONT OVERLAY IN A LIMITED CAPACITY WHEN CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ARE SATISFIED (DUAL REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD).]

MEETING.

OKAY, SO LET'S GO WITH THE FIRST ITEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIR.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT IS SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH MAGAZINE.

UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE HE IS IN ATTENDANCE, UH, TODAY, BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE A REFER - UH, DEFERRAL REQUEST.

SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO THE, POTENTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO PERMIT A TEMPORARY SALE CENTER, UH, WITHIN THE ALTON BEACH, UH, BAYFRONT OVERLAY.

THIS IS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR 1250 WEST AVENUE.

UM, THIS WOULD PERMIT A SALE CENTER FOR THE PROJECT TO BE LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET AND THE SITE OF THE FORMER BIKINI HOSTEL, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN DEMOLISHED.

UM, THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS A SALE CENTER IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY, UM, FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, BUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WOULD NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW THAT TYPE OF USE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT TEMPORARY USE OF THE SITE AS A SALE CENTER.

UM, THE, UH, REQUEST HAS BEEN INITIATED BY A LOBBYIST.

THAT LOBBYIST IS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VISUAL PRESENTATION THAT THEY'RE PREPARED TO, TO GIVE TODAY, IF YOU WISH.

UM, THIS, THE ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST AND IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE LAND USE COMMITTEES TRANSMIT A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE BEGINNING HOUSE ON 1250 WEST, CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO WHY DOES IT HAVE TO COME BEFORE A LAND USE COMMITTEE? WELL, IT WAS, IT WAS REFERRED TO, IT WAS A DUAL REFERRAL TO BOTH THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING BOARD.

UH, THIS DOES REQUIRE A MODIFICATION TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

JUST CURIOUS, WHY DIDN'T THAT HAPPEN WHEN, WITH THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AT THE TIME OF THIS VOTE? I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

I MAY JUST NOT HAVE REGISTERED THAT WE WOULD'VE NEEDED A, A LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION AMENDMENT AT THE TIME.

OKAY.

WELL, IF I COULD JUST ASK THAT QUESTION.

SURE.

SO, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERLY.

TYPICALLY, SALES SITES, THEY ARE WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.

AND THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT WITHIN THIS AREA WOULD BE TO ALLOW FOR THE SALE SITE TO TEMPORARILY BE LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY PURCHASED.

CORRECT.

IT WOULD BE - THAT IS GOING TO BE DEEDED TO THE CITY.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WHEN WE SAY TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY MEANS UNTIL THE END OF CONSTRUCTION, TILL TURNOVER.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UNTIL A, A TCO IS ISSUED FOR THE PROJECT.

UNTIL T - A TCO IS ISSUED.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS FIVE YEARS.

YEAH.

SO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SETS FORTH A SPECIFIC TIMELINE.

IT WAS 54 MONTHS FROM WHEN IT WAS APPROVED.

THE IDEA WAS THAT SOME TIME TO GET IT APPROVED AND THEN 36 MONTHS OF USE.

SO ABOUT THREE YEARS.

WHY DO YOU NEED FIVE YEARS, NICK? WHY DO WE NEED - YEAH.

WE JUST TIME TO GET IT APPROVED AND THEN THREE YEARS, TIME TO GET IT APPROVED, BUILT, AND THEN THREE YEARS, UH, FOR

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USE OF THE SALES CENTER.

BUT YOU DON'T NEED IT WHILE IT'S GETTING, LIKE, APPROVED, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE, IT'S NOT, NOT, THERE'S NO SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHY - RIGHT.

SO THE ACTUAL INTENT OF THIS ITEM IS TO OPEN UP THE, THE SITE FOR PUBLIC USE.

REALLY HALF THE SITE IS GETTING DIVIDED UP INTO A SCULPTURE PARK.

SO THAT'S, UH, REALLY, THIS IS A TEMPORARY SALE CENTER AMENDMENT.

IT REQUIRES US TO OPEN UP THE SITE FOR PUBLIC USE.

BY THE WAY, WHOSE IDEA WAS IT FOR A SCULPTURE PARK? UH, THAT WAS OUR CLIENT'S IDEA, THE, THE DEVELOPER.

UM, SO I MEAN, IT, ACTUALLY, IT WAS COMMISSIONER MAGAZINE WHO PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME PASSIVE ENJOYMENT IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE SITE TO BE USED AS A TEMPORARY SALES CENTER.

UM, SO WE CHOSE TO GO THE ROUTE OF A SCULPTURE PARK.

IT'S REALLY JUST A PASSIVE PARK WHERE PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY - I MEAN, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS THAT'S, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THIS IS JUST GONNA ENHANCE THE, THE SALES CENTER WITH A SCULPTURE PARK.

AND I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT AS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS LIKE A, EVEN A DOG PARK WOULD BE OR, OR JUST PASSIVE GREENWAY.

WELL, I THINK - I DON'T - YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN, AND THEN, SO WE HAVE A SCULPTURE PARK ON ONE SIDE, THEN WE HAVE A SALES CENTER ON THE OTHER.

I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THE RESIDENTS REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

WELL, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS JUST THE SITE JUST SITS VACANT, RIGHT, AND HAS A FENCE AROUND IT.

SO IT'S KIND OF A SHAME THAT IT'S THEIR LANDSCAPED AND IT COULD BE - THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS, IT HAS TO BE PASSIVE, UH, USE FOR THE, THE RESIDENTS.

IF, IF THERE'S A SALES CENTER.

OTHERWISE, WE JUST COMPLY WITH THE VACANT LOT REGULATIONS.

IS THAT TRUE, MADAM CITY PLANNER? YEAH.

IS THAT IF THERE IS NO SALES CENTER, THEN IT, IT BY DEFAULT DOES NOT BECOME PASSIVE TO A PARK TO THE RESIDENTS? MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION.

YEAH, I'LL DEFER TO NICK REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF THE DA.

THE DA DOES CONTEMPLATE THAT THE, THAT THE PROPERTY COULD BE USED FOR A TEMPORARY SALE CENTER FOR UP TO 54 MONTHS.

COULD BE.

WELL, I, I THINK THAT IT WILL BE.

WELL, LET'S, LET'S GET VERY...

I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ON, ON WHAT THE AGREEMENT SAYS AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.

SO THROUGH THE CHAIR, I MEAN, THE, THE AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATED THAT WE WOULD NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT.

WE KNEW AT THE TIME THAT WE WOULD NEED IT.

IT COULDN'T BE - YEAH, LISTEN, I MEAN, LOOK, I, YOU KNOW, I VOTED NO ON THIS AND, UM, WAS AGAINST THE CONCEPT, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THIS SPACE AS A PARK OR AS A PASSIVE USE FOR RESIDENTS ON WEST AVENUE, I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE A SALES CENTER FOR FIVE YEARS WITH A SCULPTURE PARK THAT JUST ENHANCES THE SALES CENTER.

YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER ACTUALLY BE USED FOR SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO THE RESIDENTS ON WEST AVENUE.

SO IF I COULD JUST ASK A QUESTION, THIS RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD? THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION WOULD REQUIRE PLANNING BOARD, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO COMMISSION.

AND I JUST, JUST TO SPEAK TO THE SCULPTURE PARK, I, I MENTIONED, UM, TO NICK EARLIER, UM, THAT WOULD NEED DRB REVIEW.

SO THE SCULPTURE ITSELF WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD APPROVE AS PART, YOU KNOW, WE COULD APPROVE THAT IT, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SCULPTURE.

SO THE SCULPTURE IS NOT PART OF THE LDR DEPARTMENT.

THE SCULPTURE, WELL, IT WOULD JUST BE A, IT'S ALLOWED NOW, RIGHT? AN ART PIECE WOULD BE ALLOWED NOW.

IT DOESN'T NEED SPECIAL, UM, USE REGULATIONS TO BE, TO MODIFY THE ZONING DISTRICT.

IF THE COMMISSION - BUT IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVAL.

SO - IF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER, LET'S SAY, UM, WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION, AND LET'S SAY THAT THE SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY IS...

AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WANTED THE SCULPTURE THERE.

I THINK PER- PERSONALLY, I THINK A PERMANENT SCULPTURE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A TEMPORARY SCULPTURE.

UM, BUT LET'S SAY THAT THE DESIRE OF THE COMMUNITY IS FOR THIS TO BE MORE PASSIVE, UM, AND LESS OCCUPIED BY, BY A SCULPTURE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED WITH A DEVELOPER, UH, AND BROUGHT BACK WHEN IT COMES TO COMMISSION? UH, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OF COURSE.

BECAUSE THE, BECAUSE THE, THE, UH, ZONING CHANGE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS SIMPLY AS TO, UH, THE TAX AMENDMENT THAT S - THAT SPEAKS TO WHERE A, UH, SALES OFFICE CAN BE LOCATED AT.

AND, AND WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD PUT SIZE LIMITATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE CAN'T TAKE UP MORE THAN 10% OF THE LOT AREA OR, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WORK WITH, WITH THE SPONSOR AS WELL AS, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO FIGURE OUT - NICK, WHY DON'T YOU...

INAPPROPRIATE.

PUT ON THE SCREEN WHAT THE VISUAL IS.

SURE, PJ, I THINK THE - MINUS THE WHOLE PRESENCE.

YEAH, THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S ANOTHER PRESENTATION, PJ, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN I PULL UP THE POWER, THE OTHER ONE THAT I HAD DOWNLOADED? IT SHOULD BE IN THE DOWNLOADS.

UH, YEAH, THE, THAT ONE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS, ON THE ITEM THERE, THIS ONE.

YEP.

I THINK IT'S - I LOVE YOU.

I LOVE YOU.

YOU LOVE ME.

YOU TOO.

SO AS YOU

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SEE IT THERE, UM, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE IMAGE OF THE, THE TEMPORARY SCULPTURE ALREADY, AND THEN SO THE LEFT SIDE OF IT IS THE SCULPTURE PARK.

UH, IT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND FREE.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE WOULD BE THIS, IT'S ABOUT 1600 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY SET UP.

WHY DO YOU NEED, WHY DO YOU NEED PARKING THERE? THE STREET PARKING.

OH, I THINK TAKING THE STREET PARKING.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT JUST TAKES AWAY GREEN SPACE FROM, FROM THE USE OF A PARK.

SO I MEAN, WE CAN WORK ON THE DESIGN WITH, WITH PLANNING STAFF, BUT TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVING PARKING ALLOCATED TO THIS WOULD BE BETTER THAN TAKING UP STREET PARKING FROM THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

SO W - TODAY, I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE IT.

SO TODAY, W- W- WE ARE DECIDING ON A SCULPTURE PARK AS FAR AS THE ZONING.

I, I, I KNOW.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND IF THIS IS TO MOVE OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH NOT JUST LIMITING OURSELVES TO A SCULPTURE PARK WITH PARKING, ET CETERA ON THERE? SO THIS, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS IT WOULD ALLOW THE INTRODUCTION OF A TEMPORARY SALES CENTER, CENTER WITH THE ART PIECE.

NOT THIS SPECIFIC ART PIECE, NOT, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER THAT IT'S, WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT SETBACKS, WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT HEIGHTS, AND, UH, THIS, THE ART PIECE WILL REQUIRE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL.

SO WE'RE NOT REALLY APPROVING THE ART PIECE.

WE'RE APPROVING THE ABILITY TO INTRODUCE THE ART PIECE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SALES CENTER.

SO LET'S, UM, LET'S, I WOULD, I'D RATHER DEFER THIS, YOU GUYS COME BACK TO US AND, AND COME UP WITH SOME BETTER OPTIONS, UH, ON, ON DESIGN AND, AND, AND USE MORE IMPORTANTLY.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE PARKING ON THERE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST A WASTE OF, OF GREEN SPACE.

AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL IRON IT OUT THERE, BECAUSE I'M GONNA VOTE NO IF, IF IT, IF IT GETS MOVED TODAY.

I'D RATHER HAVE BUY-IN FROM ALL OF US UP HERE, PLUS WE'RE MISSING A MEMBER, UH, AND THE SPONSOR.

SO LET'S DEFER, UH, TO THE NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S FINE WITH US.

UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT MADE, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THE SYSTEM, SO.

THERE WAS AN EMAIL RECEIVED EARLIER TODAY.

I THINK ALL OF THE...

LET ME SEE IF - WAS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM RIGHT NOW? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ON ZOOM.

OKAY.

NO.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR FROM IT NEXT MONTH, OKAY? OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, CAN I, AS CHAIR, CAN I MOVE THIS TO DEFER OR MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER?.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL BRING THIS BACK NOVEMBER 24TH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

ALL

[7. CONSIDER POTENTIAL INCENTIVES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF LIVING SEAWALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND AS PART OF PUBLIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, WHICH MAY INCLUDE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE.]

RIGHT, THE LAST AND FINAL ITEM? YES.

THE LAST ITEM IS CONSIDER POTENTIAL INCENTIVES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF LIVING SEAWALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AS PART OF A PUBLIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, WHICH MAY INCLUDE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE.

AND I KNOW, UM, OUR CITY ENGINEER IS HERE ALONG WITH, UH, AMY KNOWLES, OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT, UH, DIRECTOR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE IF YOU WANT ME TO START FIRST.

YES.

WITH YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

I AM KARA BOYLES, CITY ENGINEER AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, REGARDING THE ITEM, I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU THAT WE HAVE ALREADY INCORPORATED LIVING SEAWALL TECHNOLOGIES INTO PROJECTS TO DATE, INTO OUR CIP.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12 SEAWALLS THAT ARE IN DESIGN, AND THOSE INCLUDE LIVING SEAWALL PANELS.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 10 PROJECTS PREPARING TO ENTER INTO DESIGN PHASE, WHICH WOULD ALSO HAVE, UM, LIVING SEAWALL PANELS.

WE ALSO HAVE A PILOT PROJECT.

IT EXISTS AT 60TH STREET, UM, IN PINE TREE.

AND ON THAT PROJECT, WE'RE EVALUATING THE USE OF LIVING SEAWALL TILES, UM, ON EXISTING SEAWALLS.

SO IN THAT PROJECT, WE'RE SIMPLY RAISING THE SEAWALL CAP, AND THEN WE WOULD, UM, PLACE THE TIE WALL, TILES ON THE, ON THIS EXISTING WALL.

UM, ONE THING WE DO WANNA EMPHASIZE IS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY FOR TILES, FOR INSTANCE, ISN'T ALWAYS APPROPRIATE.

WE HAD A, UM, EVALUATION FOR, I THINK THERE WAS A, UM, A RESOLUTION FROM COMMITTEE TO, OR FROM COMMISSION TO LOOK AT BONITA DRIVE FOR T - UM, TILES IN THE PAST.

BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO, UM, PLACE TILES ON THAT SEA WALL.

THE WATER IS VERY SHALLOW THERE.

THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF RIPRAP IN FRONT OF THE SEA WALL, SO THE TILES WOULD NEVER REALLY HAVE MUCH EXPOSURE TO THE WATER.

UM, FROM A COST AND CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, WE HAVE YET TO GET A REAL COST BASIS FOR OURSELVES, BUT EVERYTHING WE'VE REVIEWED AND EVERYTHING WE'VE LEARNED FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS IS THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN IMPLEMENTING A STANDARD SEAWALL VERSUS A, UM, A LIVING SEAWALL PANEL.

SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEARN IN THE NEXT, UM, YEAR WHEN WE GET SOME ACTUAL PRICING.

AND I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT PERMITTING AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE.

I JUST WANNA EXPLAIN THAT IN TERMS OF THE CITY, WHAT WE DO IS WE, UH, WE ISSUE THE BUILDING PERMIT ONCE THE,

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UM, A PROPERTY OWNER RECEIVES THEIR SORT OF CONDITIONAL PRE-APPROVAL FROM DERM, AND THEN WITH OUR BUILDING REVIEW, UM, APPROVAL, THEY CAN GO ON TO GET THEIR DERMCLASS ONE.

AND SO REALLY, THAT'S THE ONLY BIT OF PERMITTING THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO SEA WALLS IN THE CITY.

SO WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE WITH, UH, THIS - YEAH, WELL, I, WELL, I MEAN, THE INCENTIVE, OBVIOUSLY, WITH, UH, WITH LIVING S- SEA WALLS AS, AS OPPOSED TO THE TRADITIONAL TYPE OF SEAWALL, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, THEY, THEY PROVIDE FLOOD AND EROSION PROTECTION WITH LIVING SEA WALLS.

UH, YOU GOT TO CREATE A HABITAT FOR MARINE LIFE AND IMPROVE THE BIODIVERSITY, UH, ALONG, ALONG OUR, OUR WATERWAYS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO TO ENCOURAGE, UH, PEOPLE TO USE THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY SO THAT NOT ONLY DO WE PROTECT PROPERTIES FROM FLOODING, BUT WE DO IMPROVE THIS MARINE LIFE, IS SEE WHAT CAN WE DO IN TERMS OF EXPEDITING PERMITTING.

I KNOW THE CITY OF CORAL GABLES, THEY ISSUE PERMITS WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO ISSUE ONE OF THESE, UH, PERMITS.

I KNOW DIFFERENT CITIES, THE CITY OF MIAMI, UH, HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THE BUILDING FEE, UH, THE BUILDING FEES FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.

THE CITY OF MIAMI OFFERS A 50%, UH, FEE WAIVER FOR THOSE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT USE, UH, LIVING SEAWALLS.

FORT LAUDERDALE ACTUALLY DOES A 100%, UH, BUILDING, UH, FEE WAIVER FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE USING THIS NORTH BAY VILLAGE DOES A 40% FEE WAIVER.

SO FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE COULD LOOK AT NOT ONLY SAVING TIME IN TERMS OF PERMITTING, BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT SAVING THEM MONEY ON, ON, ON BUILDING PERMIT FEES.

AND THEN THE, THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SEE AS PART OF THIS ITEM IS WHETHER WE CAN INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANUALS, UH, SO THAT THE ENGINEERS CONSULTING FOR THE CITY CAN DESIGN LIVING SEA WALLS INTO ANY PROJECT THAT THE CITY, UH, IS LOOKING AT.

THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GOAL THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND SEEING HOW STAFF CAN GUIDE US, UH, AND YOUR OPINIONS INTO IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE POLICIES THAT WOULDN'T BE NEW TO MIAMI BEACH.

IN FACT, OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALREADY.

I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD PUT INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL.

AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, I SAID WE HAD 12 IN DESIGN, AND THOSE WERE ALL ORIGINALLY DESIGNED NOT WITH LIVING SEAWALL PANELS, BUT WE ASKED OUR CONSULTANTS TO, UM, RE-LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AGO.

AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ANYTIME THERE ARE MAYBE SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES, IT, IT, IT WOULD LEAD TO A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE.

I KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A SEA WALL BEING BUILT WITH SIDEWALK ON TOP, SO THERE WAS SOME STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRED A LITTLE BIT MORE REDESIGN, BUT OTHERWISE THE DESIGN WAS JUST A ONE FOR ONE KIND OF SWITCH OUT OF THE PANELS.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE TIMEFRAME, I BELIEVE OUR BUILDING TURNOVER TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE THE 10 DAYS NOW.

SO IF WE WANTED TO CONSIDER EXPEDITING THAT, THE SEA WALL IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REVIEW FOR ENGINEERING.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.

SO WE'RE REALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS MORE DEPENDENT ON DURHAM? THEY REALLY ARE BECAUSE ONCE THEY GET THAT PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, THEN WE WILL ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT AND THEN THEY CAN GO BACK TO DURHAM TO GET THE ACTUAL PERMIT.

BUT DURHAM, BUT MI- MIAMI-DADE COUNTY HAD PASSED POLICY EXPEDITING, EXPEDITING THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT COULD BE SPENT IN, IN, IN THE REVIEW OF THIS.

SO IF, IS, IS THAT WORKING? BECAUSE I, I REMEMBER WE WENT TO MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND WE IN FACT LOBBIED, UM, WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC TO, FOR THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE AT THE, AT THE COUNTY.

I DO NOT, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT.

DOES AMY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I THINK THEIR TYPICAL TURNAROUND TIME IS 30 TO 60 DAYS, SO - RIGHT.

BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

SO, SO COMMISSIONER, WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS? I MEAN, IT'S IN COMMITTEE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SOLID SORT OF INCENTIVE PROGRAM YET.

WELL, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD GIVE FEEDBACK, UH, TO, TO, TO THE CITY ENGINEER.

UH, IF THIS, IF THERE IS SUPPORT FOR CREATING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM LIKE THIS, UH, SO THAT THEN THEY CAN GO BACK AND, AND PUT THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER.

WHAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT FINANCIAL, UH, INCENTIVE, UH, FOR, TO, TO, TO INCORPORATE AS A DISCOUNT FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE? I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THE TIMING, IN LARGE PART, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T FURTHER EXPEDITE IT MORE THAN 10 DAYS BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL PRE-MANUFACTURED.

UH, SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY, UH, TO PERMIT AND INCORPORATING THE LANGUAGE INTO, IN, INTO OUR MANUAL.

SO IF WE ALL CAN AGREE ON THAT, GIVING THEM THAT FEEDBACK SO THEN THEY CAN COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A POLISHED ITEM.

SURE.

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UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE ANYONE ON THIS, WHO'S ON A SEAWALL, I MEAN, THEY'RE, I THINK THE LAST THING THEY NEED IS A BREAK ON, ON PRICING.

HOWEVER, WHAT EVERYONE DOES WANT IS, AS YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, EXPEDITED.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE EXPEDITE OTHER PARTS OF THEIR BUILDING PERMIT IF THEY ARE DOING A COMPLETE REDONE ON, ON THE HOUSE AND, UM, OR A GUT JOB OR, OR STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

I MEAN, MAYBE THERE ARE CERTAIN INCENTIVES WHERE WE CAN SPEED UP THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR ANY PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SUSTAINABLE MEASURES.

UM, SO I, I'M NOT AGAINST THE FINANCIAL PROPOSAL, BUT LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT STAFF COMES BACK AND, AND, AND, AND COMES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS IN COMMITTEE.

YEAH, YEAH.

LET'S, LET, LET'S KEEP IT IN, IN, IN COMMITTEE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE US ALSO TO THINK, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, NORTH BEACH, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONDO BUILDINGS, OLDER CONDO BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON WATERWAYS.

UM, THEY DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY WEALTHY RESIDENTS AND I'LL, I CAN TELL YOU MY, IN THE WATERWAY THAT I LIVE ON, UM, WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE PROPERTY WEALTH, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE LIQUID WEALTH, LIQUID WEALTH TO REINVEST.

SO IT'S NOTHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

I LIKE TO KEEP IT HERE, WORK WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER WITH THIS FEEDBACK SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING A MORE FORMALIZED ITEM AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO PASS THE COMMISSION.

AND THEN I'LL JUST CALL ATTENTION.

WE DO HAVE, AND I KNOW AMY CAN SPEAK TO IT EVEN MORE, BUT WE DO HAVE THE PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY ADAPTATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS ALWAYS AN OPTION FOR RESIDENTS TO APPLY.

YOU CAN GET UP TO $20,000 IN ASSISTANCE FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS RELATED TO DRAINAGE, STORMWATER, AND SEA WALL, UM, RECONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT IS, THERE IS THAT OUT THERE AS WELL FOR RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

SO YOU WANNA JUST BRING US BACK TO, UH - YEAH, LET'S CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A FORMALIZED ITEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

COME ON.