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WE ARE GOING ON AIR IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 4TH MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UM, WE HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE TODAY, BUT AT NOON WE ARE GOING TO LOSE QUORUM FOR VARIANCES.
SO WE ARE GOING TO ADJUST THE SCHEDULE A BIT SO THAT WE CAN HEAR THE VARIANCE REQUEST APPLICATIONS FIRST, AND THOSE WILL BE ANNOUNCED AS THEY COME.
ALRIGHT, SO GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
I CAN CONFIRM WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.
SO WE DO HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
WE HAVE, UH, MAA, OLI SCOTT DIFFENDERFER, SARAH GIL NELSON, LAURA LEWIN, AND SAM SHELDON, SHAUNA MEYER, UM, UM, IS NOT HERE TODAY.
SO, UM, NOW DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
TODAY'S MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN SCHEDULED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH QUORUM OF THE BOARD, PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, CITY HALL, CITY COMMISSION, CHAMBERS AND APPLICANTS STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR.
IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S MEETING, THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA THE ZOOM PLATFORM WEBINAR MAY DIAL 8 8 8 4 7 5 4 4 9 9, AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4, OR LOGIN INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 8 2 2 7 3 9 4 1 9 2 4.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK THE RAISE HAND ICON IF THEY'RE USING THE ZOOM APP, OR DIAL STAR NINE IF THEY'RE PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
NOW, BEFORE, BEFORE I SWORE IN THOSE THAT ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION.
IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A CITY, UH, ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION, OR ANOTHER PERSON, YOU MUST REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH A CITY, WITH A CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED YET, YOU SHOULD REGISTER BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
THAT INCLUDES ARCHITECTS, ATTORNEYS, OR EMPLOYEES REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT OR AN OBJECTOR.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST IN THREE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, ONE, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTY.
TWO, IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL, OR OTHER SPECIALIZED INFORMATION OR TESTIMONY IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING.
THREE, IF YOU'RE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT ANY COMPENSATION OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR YOUR APPEARANCE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM.
THAT SAID, EXPERT WITNESSES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHALL PRIOR TO APPEARING DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK, THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, AND THE PRINCIPLE ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY'RE COMMUNICATING.
THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU'RE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM, OR ENCOURAGING OR ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION, OR CONTINUANCE.
NOW, UM, IF YOU'RE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, PLEASE STAND AND RISE.
UH, VIRTUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE SWORN IN AT THE TIME OF THEIR PRESENTATION.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVEN IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
YOU GUYS MAY SIT DOWN AND YOU MAY PROCEED.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM WITH A VARIANCE IS 1801 ALTON ROAD, BUT I BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY'S NOT HERE YET, OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? NEXT ONE.
OH, DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? OH,
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I APOLOGIZE.DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? UH, I MOVE TO, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UH, OKAY, MR. SHELDON AND MS.
MOTION PASSES AND MS. MEYERS ABSENT.
[8. DRB23-0994, 40 ISLAND AVENUE, 1 FARREY LANE, 2 FARREY LANE.]
THE NEXT ITEM WITH A VARIANCE WOULD BE DRB 24 DASH 0 9 9 4.THAT'S FOR THE STANDARD HOTEL 40 ISLAND AVENUE, ONE FERRY LANE AND TWO FERRY LANE.
UM, SO AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, INCLUDING UPDATED FINISHES AND APPEARANCE AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIVE STORY HOTEL AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, INCLUDING VARIANCES FOR THE REQUIRED SUM OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND TO ALLOW FOR THE AGGREGATION OF THREE CONTIGUOUS LOTS AND INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REPLACE EXISTING STRUCTURES.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT, UM, IS PROPOSING NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE SIDE OF THE STANDARD HOTEL.
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BE REPLACING THE EASTERN WING OF THE BUILDING, UM, WITH A NEW FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT WILL CONTAIN HOTEL UNITS.UM, AND IN THE UPPER FLOORS WE'LL HAVE SIX RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS, IS REMAINING THE, THE, UH, THE ENTRANCE BUILDING, WHICH IS THREE STORIES, UM, DESIGNED, UH, AND BUILT IN 1950 WILL BE REMAINING.
UM, AS PART OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THE NEW BUILDING WILL ALSO INCLUDE PARKING SPACES ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO PARKING ON THE SITE, SO PARKING IS HAPPENING, UH, IN SUNSET HARBOR AND THE VALLEY OPERATIONS ARE VERY COMPLICATED.
SO THIS WILL FACILITATE THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUILDING.
THE ADDITIONAL LOTS THAT ARE BEING ADDED ON ONE AND TWO FERRY LANE ARE, ARE INTENDED TO INCLUDE A DRIVEWAY WHICH WILL GO INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AREA.
GIVEN THE EXISTING FACADE, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER LOCATION WHERE A DRIVEWAY COULD GO INTO THIS GARAGE.
SO THAT'S WHY THOSE TWO LOTS ARE BEING ADDED.
UM, A VARIANCE IS BEING SOUGHT FOR THOSE DRIVEWAY TO, TO ADD THOSE TWO LOTS.
THERE IS A LIMIT IN THE R ONE DISTRICT OF, UH, TWO LOT AGGREGATION.
UM, THEY'RE, IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE ADDING THREE LOTS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE AGGREGATING THREE LOTS.
THE TWO LOTS ONE AND TWO FERRY LANE ARE PRETTY SMALL.
SO ACTUALLY THE TWO TOGETHER EQUAL ONE STANDARD LOT.
SO THAT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY THAT THE LOTS ARE SUB, ARE NOT, UH, STANDARD LOTS.
UM, SO THAT IS A, THAT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE SUM OF SIDE YARDS, THE VARIANCE FOR SUM OF SIDE YARDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDING THOSE TWO LOTS, UM, THAT INCREASES THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH INDIVIDUAL SIDE SETBACKS, BUT THE SUM OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS INCREASES TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLY.
THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE SUM OF SIDE YARD SETBACKS.
SO THEY'RE BASICALLY KEEPING A A, A CONTINUING NON-CONFORMANCE THAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THE SITE.
UM, THE, THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING, UM, IS IN A, UH, CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
UM, UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DESIGN, UM, WHICH I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL GO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE DESIGN.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER.
UM, THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE NEW BUILDING IS FOR PARKING.
AND THEY, AND SO THE CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE 12 FEET ABOVE THE DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION, UM, FOR FUTURE ADAPTATION.
BUT BECAUSE IT IS JUST BEING USED FOR PARKING, THEY'RE REQUESTING A WAIVER AND REDUCING THAT TO 10 FEET.
UM, SO STAFF IS, IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAIVER AND THE TWO VARIANCES.
THE, UM, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT THAT, UM, UM, IS BEING CONSIDERED.
THEY DO HAVE SOME CODE ISSUES, UH, WITH THE SITE BECAUSE THEY'RE INTRODUCING RESIDENTIAL USES.
IT'S TECHNICALLY AN APARTMENT HOTEL.
UM, APARTMENT HOTELS ARE NOT, UH, A PERMISSIBLE USE IN THE ARMED ONE DISTRICT.
SO THEY DO HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT IN PROGRESS TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN PROGRESS THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE THREE LOT AGGREGATION.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE SEEKING A VARIANCE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UM, ACCEPTABLE.
UM, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE MAJOR ISSUES, UM, IS JUST THE CODE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEY DID SUBMIT A, UH, HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT TO THE CITY.
IF THAT CODE AMENDMENT DOES NOT PASS, THEY'LL EITHER HAVE TO REWORK THE PROJECT OR, OR, OR THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT AS IS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD APPROVE THE, UH, THE APPLICATION AND THE, UH, WAIVERS AND THE VARIANCES.
SO, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MAYOR STAFF, MICHAEL LARKIN, TURNER, SOUTH PISCA BOULEVARD HERE RESIDENT, THE APPLICANT.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE LONGEST APPLICATIONS I WORKED ON.
IT TAKEN ABOUT A YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS ACTUALLY TO GET TO HEARING BEFORE YOU, BUT IT WAS WORTH ALL THE EFFORT IT TOOK, THE DESIGN IMPROVED.
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ARE GREAT.
WE TOOK GREAT EFFORTS TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO EVERYONE.
AND AS A RESULT, I THINK YOU'LL SEE LIKE POSITIVE UNIFORM SUPPORT FROM ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS TODAY.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD IS A GYM IN MIAMI BEACH, SO EVERYONE CARES ABOUT THE STANDARD AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE STANDARD AND NOT HAVE A RANGE OF OPINIONS ABOUT WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.
SO WE THINK WE'RE VERY MUCH RIGHT IN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND, UM, SO COULD THE PRESENTATION BE PULLED UP, PLEASE? I'M ACTUALLY HAVING TROUBLE DOWNLOADING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE AGENDA.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.
I CLICK ON WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU? HERE, THERE, PLEASE CLICK, CLICK ON IT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT HERE? I, I DON'T KNOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER, THE OTHER APPLICATIONS.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET TO IT ON HERE.
I CAN HOLD MADAM CHAIR UNTIL YOU'RE DONE.
LIKE THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
SO, WELL, WE CAN DO IT ON HERE.
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I MEAN, ALL THE OTHER FILES I DOUBT SHE WAS ABLE TO DO A FEW MINUTES AGO.SORRY FOR, SORRY, I THINK I CLICKED ON THE, UM, YEAH, SEE IT SAYS ZERO.
SORRY, IT SEEMS TO BE LOADING ON MINE.
IF YOU HIT CLICK, THERE'S A LITTLE EYEBALL
I CAN JUST LOOK AT THE, I HAVE THE ITEMS THAT WERE UPDATED.
YOU WANT THE ACTUAL PLANS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I HAVE, I HAVE THE FILES THAT WERE UPDATED PREVIOUSLY.
BUT JUST NOT THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION, BUT OH, GO AHEAD.
I'LL BE OKAY IF YOU A HARD COPY.
JUST DON'T PAGE AHEAD, PLEASE LET ME
WE'RE HERE WITH A GREAT TEAM TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL.
TODAY WE HAVE KOBE CARRP AND MATT PICARD FROM KOBE CARP ARCHITECTURE.
WE HAVE BIG ARCHITECTURE WITH DOMINIKA FROM BIG, FROM THEIR NEW YORK CITY OFFICE.
WE HAVE CHRIS COWLEY, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, JOAQUIN VARGAS, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, UH, JAIME, SAMANTHA FROM INTEGRA.
THEY'RE OUR OWNER'S REP, PROJECT MANAGERS.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS NICK RODRIGUEZ, MY COLLEAGUE FROM MY LAW FIRM WHO KEPT THE TRAINS RUNNING ON TIME THIS WHOLE YEAR AND SOME MONTHS.
SO THE STANDARD PROPERTY IS A PIE SHAPED LOT ON NORTH SIDE OF BELL ISLE.
IT'S ABOUT 2.3 ACRES WITH FERRY LANE ONE AND TWO ADDS ABOUT 5,500 SQUARE FEET TO THAT ACREAGE AMOUNT.
THE HOTEL BUILDING ITSELF IS A U-SHAPED BUILDING WITH TWO WINGS AND A CENTER STRUCTURE.
WE HAVE A ONE STORY EAST WING, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE REDEVELOPED, A TWO STORY WEST WING THAT WILL BE RENOVATED AND PRESERVED, AND THEN A THREE STORY CENTER STRUCTURE FACING ISLAND AVENUE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
THE OWNERS HAVE ALSO PURCHASED FERRY LANE, UH, ONE AND TWO, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER IN ORDER TO DEVELOP ONSITE PARKING WITHOUT DEMOLISHING ANY PART OF THE ICONIC CENTER STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY THERE.
SO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY HAVE EVOLVED OVER TIME, AS IS THE CASE IN MANY BUILDINGS.
IN MIAMI BEACH, THE ORIGINAL HOTELS DESIGNED BY NORMAN GILLER, IT WAS A CLASSIC MIMO MOTEL, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D FIND IN THE UPPER EAST SIDE IN THE MIMO DISTRICT IN MIAMI OR IN NORTH BEACH.
ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY ON THE EAST SIDE LEADING TO A SURFACE PARKING LOT BETWEEN THE EAST WING AND THE HOMES ON FERRY LANE.
IN 1960, THE ORIGINAL ONE STORY SOUTH WING WAS DEMOLISHED AND THE PROPERTY WAS REDEVELOPED AS THE LIDO SPA HOTEL.
ACCORDING TO THE CITY RECORDS, A HERBERT MATHIS DESIGNED THE 1960S THREE STORY CENTER STRUCTURE THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE TODAY AS WE'RE DRIVING OR WALKING BY ON THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY.
TODAY, THE STANDARDS OF WELLNESS OASIS KNOWN FOR ITS HAMAN SPA AND BAYFRONT POOL DECK.
THE HOTELS THE OPPOSITE OF THE PARTY HOTELS OF SOUTH BEACH, FOCUSING MORE ON CREATING A LIVELY AT TRANQUIL PLACE ON THE SHORES OF BISCAY BAY.
THE STANDARDS OF BELOVED PART OF THE BELL ISLE COMMUNITY AND MANY OF ITS MEMBERS LIVE NEARBY AND USE THE HOTEL AS AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HOMES ON BELL ISLE.
SO THE APPLICATION TODAY CONTAINS FOUR DIFFERENT REQUESTS.
THE FIRST IS THE DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED EAST WING REDEVELOPMENT THAT CONTAIN 50 MODERN HOTEL ROOMS AND SIX LARGE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
NEXT IS A DESIGN WAIVER TO ALLOW CLEARANCE HEIGHT, 10 FEET, TWO INCHES BETWEEN BASE LEVEL ELEVATION, PLUS MINIMUM FREEBOARD AND THE CEILING OF THE ROOF OF THE PARKING AREA.
NEXT IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW SOME OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK WITH 30 FEET FIVE INCHES, WHERE 37 FEET TWO INCHES IS REQUIRED.
AND LASTLY, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE AGGREGATION OF FERRY LANE ONE AND TWO INTO THE OVERALL PROPERTY.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, STAFF IS MAKING AN APPROVAL OF ALL OF OUR APPLICATION REQUESTS.
WE ACCEPT ALL THE STAFF'S CONDITIONS.
WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL OF THE WAIVER AND VARIANCES, UH, ONCE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE DESIGN.
BUT BEFORE TURNING OVER THE DESIGN TO KOBE IKA, WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT THIS APPLICATION REPRESENTS A YEAR AND A HALF OF COLLABORATION WITH THE BELLE ISLE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
WE ARE REQUIRED BY CODE TO DISCLOSE ANY AGREEMENTS WITH NEIGHBORS INVOLVING ANY TYPE OF CONSIDERATION, WHETHER MONETARY OR NON-MONETARY.
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THE DISCLOSED LETTER INTO THE RECORD AND ARE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN.WE'VE ENTERED AGREEMENTS WITH THE BELL ISLE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION, WHICH INVOLVE MONETARY CONSIDERATION, THE SAGER FAMILY WHO OWN A BUDDING PROPERTY AT EIGHT CENTURY LANE, WHICH INVOLVED NON-MONETARY CONSIDERATION, THE FOXMAN FAMILY WHO OWN A BUDDING PROPERTY AT SEVEN CENTURY LANE, WHICH INVOLVE NON-MONETARY CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS THE OWNERS OF SIX AND SEVEN FERRY LANE THAT ALSO INVOLVE NON-MONETARY CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE BUILT SUPPORT FOR THIS APPLICATION THROUGH OUR EFFORTS OF OUTREACH, INCLUDING A VERY WELL ATTENDED ONLINE COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE SENT A PERSONAL NOTICE OF THIS VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TO EVERY UNIT AND HOME IN BELL ISLE, AND HAD OVER A 120 PEOPLE ATTEND OUR OUR ONLINE PRESENTATION.
WE ALSO HELD A SMALL GATHERING FOR CENTURY AND FERRY LANE RESIDENCE AT THE STANDARD LAST TUESDAY TO ANSWER ANY LAST QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO RESIDENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF ONSITE PARKING, WHICH WILL REDUCE TRAFFIC ON THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY BY ELIMINATING THE VALET TRIPS TO AND FROM THE VALET STORAGE LOT IN SUNSET HARBOR AND THE CREATION OF A LOADING DOCK INTERNAL TO THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE DOING THIS WHILE NOT EXPANDING THE ROOM COUNT OF THE HOTEL, WHICH WILL REMAIN FIXED AT 105 ROOMS. OVERALL, THE APPLICATOR'S GIVEN THE STANDARD A CHANCE TO RECONNECT WITH ITS NEIGHBORS AND COME UP WITH COMPROMISES TO IMPROVE OPERATIONS AND PRESERVE THE LONGEVITY OF THE HOTEL.
WHILE IT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, WE ARE PROUD OF ALL THE EFFORTS WE HAVE MADE AND SUPPORT WE HAVE OBTAINED.
THE DESIGN THAT YOU'LL SEE IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN BIG AND KOBE CAR'S OFFICE.
BIG CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN CONCEPT AND KOBE AND HIS TEAM MOLDED IT TO MEET THE CITY'S CODE STANDARDS.
NOW I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DOMINICA FROM BIG'S NEW YORK CITY OFFICE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE DESIGN.
UM, UH, WELL WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PERMITTED ZONING ENVELOPE, THE NEW EAST WING RISES, UM, UH, UH, FOUR STORIES ABOVE, UM, ABOVE THE PLOT PLANE.
IT'S, UH, WEST FACING FACADE, UH, LEANS BACK EVER SO SLIGHTLY TO ALLOW, UM, MORE LIGHT TO THE, UH, TO THE EXISTING GROUNDS OF, UM, OF THE STANDARD GARDEN, UM, DEPLETED, UH, DEPLETED EXTERIOR, UM, OF THE BUILDING, DIRECTS VIEWS FROM THE BUILDING INTERIOR, UH, TOWARDS THE WATER, UM, AND, UM, AND, AND THE BAY.
AND DRAWING ON THE TRADITION OF BUNGALOW STYLE, UM, ARCHITECTURE, THE DESIGN SEEKS TO SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATE WITHIN, UH, UH, WITHIN THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT, UH, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND A DISTINCTIVE, UH, UM, UH, CHARACTER AND SENSE OF, UH, PLACE AND DESTINATION THAT MIAMI BEACH IS.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE KOBE CARP COME UP AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE DESIGN.
GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
AND I THINK THAT SINCE STAFF REPRESENTED THE PROJECT SO WELL AS WELL AS DOMINICA AND MICHAEL, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY REALLY.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT HERE, WE HAVE, UH, THE BOARDS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND LEMME SEE IF I CAN PUSH THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS, UM, THE EXISTING, UM, BUILDING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR DEMOLITION IN THE SKETCHED IN RED.
THIS IS THE MASSING THAT DOMINICA HAS MENTIONED THAT IS STEPPING BACK, MEANING THAT AS WE ASCEND UP THE BUILDING, WE ARE, UH, STEPPING BACK THE BUILDING TO LET MORE LIGHT AND AIR INTO IT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE, UH, AXONOMETRIC AXONOMETRIC SHOWS HOW IT IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ON TOP.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE HOTEL ROOMS, UH, BELOW.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UM, WHICH ALLOWS US, WHICH IS THE UNIQUE, UM, SOLUTION HERE AND HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS WITH, UM, STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, THIS IS AN IMAGE FROM THE WATER.
UM, WE CHOSE WHAT THE PUBLIC SPACES WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS, UM, A BIT MORE OF A, THE DIAGRAM OF IT.
AND THIS IS AN AERIAL TO SHOW IT IN CONTEXT.
AND WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE RESIDENCES ON ON TOP IS ALSO THAT YOU HAVE THE ROOFTOP UNITY AREAS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE THE BUILDING LOOK ALL THE WAY AROUND.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE, MORE SO THAN EVER BEFORE, IS TO HAVE THE BUILDING BECOME MORE ARCHITECTURALLY PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OPEN UP TO ALL SIDES.
AND THAT IS WHAT THE IMAGERY IS LIKE.
AND THIS IS THE, UM, AERIAL IN CONTEXT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE ROOFTOP AMENITIES HERE ARE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND FOR THE END USERS.
UM, WE CLEARLY HAVE THE EXISTING CENTRAL, UH, GARDEN SPACES BEING, UH, IMPROVED.
WE HAVE THE EXISTING, UH, GARDENS, UH, BEING UPDATED, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, BOTH MEETING ISLAND AVENUE AND THE NEIGHBORS AND THE BAY HAS SUBSTANTIALLY BEEN IMPROVED.
THIS SHOWS YOU HOW IT IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ESSENTIALLY, UM, BRING THE VEHICLES INTO THE, UM, GROUND LEVEL OF THE STRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS THE CIRCULATION AND, UM, THE DROP OFF AND THE LOADING.
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AND THIS IS THE DROP OFF FOR THE LOBBY, WHICH NOW CREATES A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION.HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ANGLED, UH, WALLS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE GARDEN.
AND AS WE ASCEND UP THE BUILDING, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE NEW HOTEL ROOMS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SPACES WITH THE ROOFTOP PENTHOUSES RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, WHICH MAKES IT A MORE UNIQUE BUILDING.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU ARE MORE IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ONLY ARCHITECTURALLY, BUT ALSO FROM A FUNCTIONING STANDPOINT, MEANING THAT YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AS PART OF THE HOTEL
AND THAT ALSO HELPS US TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND BE, MAKE, MAKE IT A MORE SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION AS IT WILL CONTINUE TO HELP US, UH, PRESERVE THIS ARCHITECTURE AND THE EXISTING FACADES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, IN PERPETUITY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MATERIALS AND, AND THE VERTICAL ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN, IS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED MATERIALS AND FINISHES.
OBVIOUSLY DOMINICA AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND WE ARE REALLY ARE LOOKING TO CREATE A VERY QUIET RESIDENTIAL DESTINATION.
UM, THIS IS THE CLEARANCES, UH, THAT MICHAEL WAS, UH, REFERRING TO.
AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE AND, UH, THROUGH THE PACKAGE THAT YOU HAVE IS HOW IT IS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS TO IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LANDSCAPING ON ALL THE WAY AROUND FROM ISLAND AVENUE, UM, TO OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
UM, WITH THAT I'LL WRAP UP AND, UH, BE QUIET WITH ANY QUESTIONS AND NO SUGGESTIONS.
SO MADAM CHAIR, THE REMAINDER OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH OUR REQUEST.
UM, AND THEN I PASSED OUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR YOU ALL.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM.
THEY'RE BASED ON NEGOTIATIONS AND TALKS WE'VE HAD WITH OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ON WHAT THEY WANNA SEE IN THIS ORDER.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THESE CONDITIONS CAME FROM.
UM, BUT KOBE JUST WENT OVER THE WAIVER REQUEST.
TYPICALLY THE FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHT, THE GROUND FLOOR PARKING AREA IS 12 FEET.
BUT YOU CAN SEEK A WAIVER USE OF THE 10.
WE THOUGHT EVERY FOOT COUNTS TO TRY TO SHRINK THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, IT'S, UM, AND IT, CAN YOU PUT THE TO 40? YOU WANT THE WAIVER? YEAH.
SO HERE, THE INTERIOR SIDE OR SETBACK FOR THE NEW EAST WING, WE'RE SEEKING, UH, A VARIANCE FOR THAT.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CLASSIC CASE LAW, IF YOU LOOK AT FERRY LANE ONE AND TWO, THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU MEASURE THE NECESSARY WIDTH YOU NEED FOR THE INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACK.
AND THEN WHEN YOU INCLUDE FERRY LANE ONE AND TWO, IT INFLATES THE SIZE OF A PROPERTY.
SO THERE, THEREBY IT INFLATES THE, THE SETBACK AREA.
UH, BUT THAT'S, SO, AND OUR PROPERTY MAKES IT UNUSUALLY SHAPED PIE SHAPED LOT.
HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK YOU'LL NEED? YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY IT.
I CAN GIVE YOU A FEW MORE MINUTES.
I THINK IT'S BETTER THAT YOU ALL SPEAK.
THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? OH, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I'M GARY RUG, RUGG 20 ISLAND AVENUE ON BELL ISLE.
IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME TO GET HERE AND WE HAVE GOTTEN HERE AND OUR ASSOCIATION HAD A MEETING FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND AND PEOPLE CAME OUT BECAUSE THE STANDARD IS A VERY POPULAR PLACE IN OUR ISLAND.
AND I KNOW WHEN I MOVED IN WITH MY WIFE, UH, 12 YEARS AGO, WE WERE SURPRISED BY THE STANDARD AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GO TO THE STANDARD FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE SEVEN BUILDINGS AS PART OF BELL ISLE, AND IT DID TAKE A LONG TIME.
WE DIDN'T WANT HEIGHT, WE DIDN'T WANT BOOZE AT MIDNIGHT OR LATER WE WERE READY TO DO ARGUE WITH MICHAEL.
I'VE KNOWN MICHAEL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND WE AGREE OR DISAGREE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, BUT HE HAS WORKED WITH THE BOARD, OUR COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE, AND HE HAS COME UP WITH A WONDERFUL DISPLAY AND A WONDERFUL DESIGN.
AND YOU'VE GOT TOP PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE NOISE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO TO THREE YEARS TO GET IT ALL DONE.
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THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT FOR US.WE'RE GONNA HAVE PARKING, NO MORE BLOCKING THINGS.
THE, EVEN THE DELIVERIES WILL GO THROUGH THE PARKING AREA.
SO I'M HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT THE GROUP AND, UH, SAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
WE THINK IT'S READY TO GO AND WHEN WE ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WILL BE ASKING.
SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT IT.
AND TO CLARIFY, MR. RUG, THE THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE IN, IT'S NEXT DOOR.
IT'S THE MULTI-STORY BUILDING THAT'S NEXT TO NUMBER 10 VENETIAN WAY.
WE ARE A, UM, 14TH STORY BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THE ONE THAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS VISTA.
WHICH IS A LOWER BUILDING AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE STANDARD.
SO THEY HAVE COME ALONG BOARD WITH IT AND, UH, WORKING AS MEMBERS OF THE BELL ISLE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLEASE COME FORWARD.
UM, AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UH, AND, UH, I HAVE HEARD THE WORD ADJACENT USED IN REFERENCE TO THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET AND ACROSS THE PARK FROM THE STANDARD HOTEL.
I WILL BE LOOKING AT THE NEW STANDARD HOTEL EVERY TIME I WALK OUT MY DOOR.
IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, 50 FEET AWAY.
UM, SO I WOULD CALL THAT MORE ADJACENT THAN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STREET.
A LOT OF REFERENCE HAS BEEN MADE TO, UH, THE FACT THAT NEGOTIATIONS WERE GOING ON WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE BELLOW RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION HAS NEVER REPRESENTED ME OR MOST OF MY, UH, NEIGHBORS ON FERRY LANE.
UH, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED, UH, ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THEM.
I'VE NEVER BEEN INVITED TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT BOARD.
I, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE LEAST INVOLVED NOR INVITED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE 15 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED ON FERRY LANE.
SO TO SAY THAT THEY REPRESENT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS, IS, UH, A STRETCH IN MY EXPERIENCE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITH MICHAEL.
I HAVE GOOD FRIENDS THAT WORK THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE CALLED MAYBE ONE TIME ABOUT, UH, THE DJ BOOTH THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO, UH, THAT'S JUST ON THE WATER AND KIND OF GETS A LITTLE BIT ANNOYING SOMETIMES AND A LITTLE BIT LOUD.
I THINK I CALLED THE STANDARD ONCE.
I DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE CITY AND COMPLAIN.
I CALLED THEM AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT.
UH, AND THAT WAS JUST ONE TIME.
SO I PUT UP WITH A LOT OF STUFF JUST 'CAUSE I HAVE A VERY POSITIVE FEELING TOWARD, UH, THAT PLACE.
AND I AM NOT, I DON'T OBJECT TO THEM WANTING TO, UH, PROGRESS AND DEVELOP AND DO WHAT MAKES, UH, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL SENSE FOR THEM.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS HOW THIS WHOLE THING WENT DOWN.
I HONESTLY HAVE NEVER SEEN THESE PLANS UNTIL TODAY.
UH, I WAS INVITED TO COME LAST WEEK FOR A COCKTAIL WITH THE PEOPLE FROM CENTURY AND FERRY.
THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE.
UM, APPARENTLY A NEGOTIATION HAPPENED.
THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT, UH, WITH A VALUE OF A MILLION 0.27.
I FOUND OUT, I FOUND OUT ALL THIS LAST WEEK.
I FOUND OUT THAT THE STANDARD IS IN NEGOTIATIONS OR HAS CLOSED A DEAL WITH, UH, GREG, THE GUY WHO HAS THE EMPTY LOT.
GREG IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE STANDARD.
HE OWNS THAT PROPERTY AND THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH WILL BE VERY CLOSE BY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ONE MORE MINUTE TO FINISH, OR? UH, YEAH.
LET ME HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE TO FINISH.
IF I HAVE A, AN EVENT AT MY HOUSE, I LET MY NEIGHBORS KNOW BECAUSE THE CARS ARE GONNA BE COMING DOWN THE STREET.
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MIGHT BE A LITTLE EXTRA NOISE.THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE INCONVENIENCED.
IN THIS CASE, THE NEGOTIATION HAS HAPPENED WITH EVERYBODY WHO LIVES WAY ACROSS THE STREET AND REALLY IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED THE WAY WE ARE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TRUCKS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONSTRUCTION DUST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION FOR THE THREE YEARS.
AND NOBODY BOTHERED TO COME AND SPEAK WITH US, AND NOBODY'S GIVING US A MILLION PLUS DOLLARS.
UH, AND I THINK IT'S PATENTLY WRONG.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE STANDARD TO COME IN GOOD FAITH AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THEIR PLANS.
AND THEN WE CAN SUPPORT IT UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE MAKE SURE THAT THE HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BRING TRUCKS DOWN THE STREET.
WHERE LAST TIME WHEN THEY DID THE, UH, THE, THE POWER THING, WE'VE GOT A CONCAVE AREA IN OUR STREET.
IT'S ABOUT 15 FEET WIDE AND 15 FEET THE OTHER WAY.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE HAVE A PUDDLE FOR THREE DAYS.
THE LAST TIME THEY HAD A PLAN, THEY CAME TO US.
WE TALKED ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THEY COULD COME BY WAY OF THE BACK DOOR OR NOT AND, AND WHAT THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE THAT WERE VERY, VERY, UH, CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND THAT EVERYBODY WAS SATISFIED WITH HOW THINGS WERE GOING TO GO DOWN.
I'M REALLY JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE YOUR THOUGHTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO ONLINE, IF NOBODY'S ON OUT IN PERSON.
SHOULD WE GO ONLINE? UH, SCOTT FOXMAN.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN, UH, QUICKLY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
UM, SO MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED NEXT TO THE STANDARD FOR ON THE WATER TWO DOORS DOWN FOR 16 YEARS.
AND, UM, THE STANDARD'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I, WE'VE ACTUALLY STAYED THERE.
THAT'S HOW WE FOUND OUR HOUSE BY STAYING THERE.
UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE PUT PEOPLE UP THERE AND HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, IN THIS, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A FEW ISSUES WITH THE STANDARD.
AND ONE OF THEM IS NOISE, YOU KNOW.
SO WE APPROACHED THEM AND THEY CAME UP WITH GREAT SOLUTIONS.
UH, THE, YOU'LL SEE AS PART OF THEIR DISCLOSURE, THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, PUT A SOUND BARRIER.
THEY LIMITED ANY MUSIC AFTER EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
THEY MOVED THE SPEAKERS FROM THAT END OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY DEFINITELY ADEQUATELY ANSWERED ALL OF OUR ISSUES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE STANDARD DOING WELL.
AND, UH, WE NOW THOROUGHLY APPROVE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I ALSO AGREE WITH JOANNE IN ONE SENSE TOO.
UH, THE BELL ISLAND, UH, RESIDENT ASSOCIATION DOESN'T REALLY REPRESENT US 'CAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
AND I'M WITH HER IN THAT THEY DIDN'T APPROACH US.
MATTER OF FACT, I APPROACHED THEM AND DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, UH, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR.
MY WIFE AND I ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, AND IT WAS VERY EASY TO DEAL WITH MICHAEL AND MIGUEL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I'M GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU CONTINUE.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
UM, I, UM, I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE SAGER FAMILY.
THEY LIVE AT EIGHTH CENTURY LANE.
IT IS, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE STANDARD ON THE WATER.
UM, MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STANDARD.
UM, I'M, WE'RE HERE, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SEGERS.
UM, TO SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE PLANS, UH, THE PROPOSED PLANS, UH, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MUCH NEEDED ONSITE PARKING.
UH, AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC, UH, OVERFLOWS FROM THE VENETIA IS NOT JUST ON THE VENETIAN CAUSEWAY.
IT OVERFLOWS INTO THE ADJACENT STREETS, INCLUDING MY CLIENT STREET ON CENTURY LANE.
UM, SO THIS IS A VERY WELCOMED PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE STANDARD HOTEL TEAM AND TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THE PROPERTY.
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AND, UH, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE BELL IS NEIGHBORHOOD.IS THAT THE LAST PERSON IN LINE? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ONLINE.
I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? OKAY, I'LL START.
UM, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I FIRST WANNA START OFF TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT SAY THEY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
UM, I USED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE BELLOW RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION FOR THE RECORD.
I'M COMPLETELY NOT INVOLVED ANYMORE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I THINK.
UM, BUT THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT, THE EMAILS, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO AL RESIDENCE.ORG AND THE, THE GOSSIP THAT GOES AROUND THAT ISLAND.
I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT SO MANY PROPOSALS OF PROJECTS IN THE LAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS.
SO I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN OUT THERE, JOE, I'M SORRY.
BUT IT'S BEEN TOTALLY OUT THERE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TELLING YOU,
DID YOU GET A NOTICE? I, WE HAD NOTICES GO OUT TO, WELL, ANYWAY, I GOT A NOTICE AND I'M NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT, BUT, WELL, YOU LIVE WHERE THE NOTICES GO.
UM, I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY, I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE APPROACH ME ABOUT IT AND ASK ME QUESTIONS.
AND I, AGAIN, I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH IT.
UM, BUT SO FAR THE FEEDBACK'S BEEN REALLY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN-MINDED TO THIS.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE LANDSCAPING IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.
THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE BUILDING IS REALLY NICE.
UM, AND I CANNOT EXPRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT I THINK THE ROOFTOP GREENERY IS ON LOW BUILDINGS SURROUNDED BY HIGHRISES.
SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY LOOKING AT THAT FROM ABOVE.
UM, SO ANYWAY, I'M HAPPY WITH THE PROJECT.
I SUPPORT THE VARIANCES DUE TO THE, UH, TO WHAT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS FOR.
UM, THE TRAFFIC, THE PARKING, ALL THAT.
ANYONE ELSE COMMENT ON, UH, OH, I'LL GO UNLESS YOU'RE READY.
UM, I, UH, I CONCUR WITH STAFF'S ANALYSIS THAT, THAT THE VARIANCES ARE WARRANTED BASED UPON THE IRREGULAR SHAPES, UM, OF THE LOTS, UH, AND THE OTHER FACTORS IDENTIFIED IN STAFF'S REPORT.
UM, SO I, I DO INTEND TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE GRANTED OF THOSE, THOSE TWO VARIANCES.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE RENDERINGS FROM THE, FROM FERRY LANE TO, TO SEE HOW THIS WOULD INTERPLAY WITH THE, THE RESIDENTS ON THAT SIDE.
UM, YEAH, I, AND I, I AGREE AS WELL WITH THE, THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS, UM, THIS IS THE EXACT SITUATION WHERE THOSE ARE NEEDED.
I, UM, FROM LISTENING TO YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT SUBMITTED BY STAFF, I AGREE WITH THE TWO VARIANCES AND THE, UM, THE VARIANCE FOR THE AGGREGATION OF THE THREE LOTS BASED ON THAT.
TWO OF THEM ARE NOT EVEN OF FULL SIZE WE'LL CALL.
AND THE VARIANCE FOR THE, UM, SIDE SETBACKS, UH, WHICH BASICALLY ROGELIO, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, IT DOESN'T REDUCE THE SIDE SETBACKS AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
AND THEN THE, UH, WAIVER FOR THE HEIGHT ON THE PARKING GARAGE, UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON WITH BELL ISLE ASSOCIATION AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THAT ASSOCIATION THAT LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ISLAND, BUT TO HAVE CALLED A MEETING ONLY A WEEK AGO OF ALL OF THEM, UM, IS HARD TO ACCEPT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES MOSTLY AFFECTED.
UM, BUT I SEE THAT THREE PEOPLE OR TWO PEOPLE HAVE COME IN AND SAID THAT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT.
I GUESS IN THE LAST WEEK YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM, MICHAEL, AND THEN THE LADY THAT CAME BEFORE US.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE RESIDENTS ON, UH, FERRY LANE OR CENTURY LANE ARE THERE THAT, UM, DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OR DO NOT AGREE OR AGREE, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROJECT.
UM, BUT THE PEOPLE AFFECTED NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN ALL OF THIS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
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KNOWN JOANNE FOR A LONG TIME.I THINK THE WORLD OF HER THINKS SHE'S GREAT.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH HER AFTER THE HEARING, WALK THROUGH THE PLANS, AND GO THROUGH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONDITIONS.
I THINK THAT'LL GIVE HER A LOT OF, UH, PEACE IF I DO THAT.
AND HOW ABOUT HOW MANY MORE RESIDENTS ARE IN THOSE TWO STREETS THAT ARE AFFECTED BESIDES THE TWO THAT SPOKE TODAY? WELL, BEAR IN MIND A LOT OF THEM WERE AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK.
I THINK FERRY LANE MIGHT HAVE 11 HOME SITES.
CENTURY LANE I THINK HAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MM-HMM.
AND WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM HOMEOWNERS ON CENTURY LANE.
UM, STEVE ROSE IS JOANNE'S NEIGHBOR.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HIS SUPPORT AND THEN THE MELLI KOTZE PROPERTIES, WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
AND, AND KIM MARTIN IS AT THREE FERRY LANE AND SHE SITS ON THE BELLA ISLE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION BOARD.
SO, AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA QUIBBLE JOANNE, IF SHE FEELS DISAPPOINTED IN ME THAT I DIDN'T DO ENOUGH OUTREACH.
I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH HER AFTER THIS HEARING AND SHOW EVERYTHING.
I THINK IF MAYBE YOU'LL SIT WITH HER AND JUST GO OVER A FEW THINGS.
UM, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF, OH, I WANTED YOU GO.
I THOUGHT YOU, UH, SO I, I I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS, WHAT IS, HOW ARE YOU GONNA MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND, AND ALL OF THAT? WELL, I THINK WHAT JOAN REMEMBERS THE MOST IS THAT WE HAD A TERRIBLE FPL TRANSFORMER SITUATION, WHICH IS ON THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY AND FERRY LANE'S LIKE A T AT THE END.
SO WE HAD EASY ACCESS AND THAT'S WHERE OUR TRANSFORMER WAS.
BUT HERE IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I THINK THAT WE CAN APPROACH EVERYTHING FROM, UH, ISLAND AVENUE ESPECIALLY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE FERRY LANE ONE AND TWO TO ADD TO OUR CONSTRUCTION CIRCULATION PATH.
SO I THINK EVERYTHING WILL FLOW THROUGH THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO USE FERRY LANE AT ALL.
SO THE PLAN IS, THAT'S PART OF THE INITIAL DEMOLITION OR THE, THE TWO.
YOU'RE GONNA START THERE AND THEN WORK YOUR WAY DOWN.
AND THEN DO YOU KNOW LIO, LIKE THEY JUST BUILT, UM, THE HABAD BUILDING AT THE FRONT IN THAT SAME AREA.
WERE THERE ANY ISSUES, LIKE COMPLAINTS THAT THE CITY HAD RECEIVED OR THAT WAS, I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT HARD? WAS THE CHALLENGES OF KEEPING THAT AREA, I GUESS, AS TRAFFIC FREE AS POSSIBLE, CAN IT BE DONE IN THAT AREA? OR IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, LESSONS LEARNED MAYBE FROM THAT THAT CAN BE PASSED ON TO THIS PROJECT? I, I THINK THERE, THERE'RE TWO DIFFERENT TOTALLY OPERAT TOTAL OPERATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE DOES GENERATE TRAFFIC ON CERTAIN DAYS OF THE WEEK.
UM, THE, I GUESS, I MEAN, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, I THINK IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S CONSTRUCTION, SO THERE'S GONNA BE DIFFICULTIES.
BUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CREATING THIS NEW DRIVEWAY WILL EASE THAT.
UM, AND I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE BACK AND FORTH THAT HAPPENS TODAY WITH THE VALET GOING TO SUNSET TO THE SUNSET HARBOR GARAGE AND THEN BACK.
SO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GOES WITH VALET, I THINK THEY NEED TO SEND TWO VEHICLES TO BRING THE VALET, THE PERSON DRIVING THE CAR BACK.
SO IN THE LONG RUN, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH A LOT LESS TRAFFIC AND A LOT LESS TRAFFIC CIRCULATION ON THIS SITE.
UM, I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MANAGE IT A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY COULD DO.
IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE TWO EXTRA SITES, UM, THEY LIKELY WOULD NEED TO USE THAT, THAT T ACCESS IF THEY WEREN'T ADDING THE DRIVEWAYS.
UM, SO, BUT IT, IT'S CONSTRUCTION, SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE TRUCKS AND YEAH.
AND THERE'S SORT OF A, A, A RECOURSE OR SOMETHING IF IT DOES GET, IF IT DOES START, I MEAN THAT STREET IS VERY, VERY SMALL THAT IT DOES START TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS.
THEY CAN CALL THE CITY AND MM-HMM.
THEY, UM, AND THEY ARE PROFFERING SOME CONDITIONS ON CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT STAFF IS NOT OPPOSED TO THESE CONDITIONS WE'RE, WE, WE WE'RE OKAY WITH INCLUDING THEM IN THE ORDER.
UM, REGARDING THE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, UM, CLEANING THE AREAS, CLEANING THE VICINITY OUT DURING CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE, WE, ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH THESE CONDITIONS THAT THE CODE COMPLIANCE WILL MONITOR MM-HMM.
UM, SO I WILL SAY, I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WERE GONNA BE MADE TO THE HOTEL, I WAS VERY NERVOUS.
'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BELOVED LOCATION.
UM, I'VE SPENT, IT'S MY FAVORITE PLACE TO GO FOR MY BIRTHDAY.
UM, BUT, AND I WAS, I WAS REALLY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE DESIGN.
UM, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED WITH THE HEIGHT, BUT I KNOW THAT ON THAT SECTION OF BELL ISLE HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER.
AND I THINK THAT THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE UNDULATION THE RHYTHM, UM, YEAH, IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL.
UM, THAT, YEAH, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHARACTER OF THE HOTEL WOULD BE AFFECTED.
UM, AND SO I'M, I'M HOPING THAT IT, IT'S NOT.
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UM, AND THEN EVEN IN THE LOBBY, TELL US, I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, WHAT IS GONNA BE DONE TO RENOVATE THAT? OR IS THAT NOT NECESSARILY WORKED OUT IN DETAIL YET? NOT MUCH.WE'RE LOOKING TO KEEP IT AS IT IS.
UM, I WONDER IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD.
I THINK, OH, THIS, THE OTHER QUESTION TOO, IF, COULD YOU JUST BRING UP, JUST SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN, IN, IN TERMS OF THE PARTS OF THE STRUCTURE THAT ARE DIRECTLY INTERACTING WITH THE RESIDENTS ON FERRY LANE, IT SEEMS WHAT THERE'S A, YOU HAD WRITTEN LIKE A CONCRETE BARISTA SOLE AS ALMOST A FENCE ALONG THE REAR OR ALONG THE, THE, YOU WANT SEE THE RENDERING FROM PRAIRIE LANE PERSPECTIVE? YES.
THERE WAS A LOT OF MAYBE GET TO THAT RENDERING IF YOU COULD.
AND THEN ALSO THE LOADING DOCK TOO.
I, I ALSO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE PULLING UP ISLAND AVENUE, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE ONE YOU WANTED MADAM CHAIR? OH, SURE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THERE ANYWAY, RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND, AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GONNA BE NOW HAVING THIS SORT OF NEW FENCE BEHIND THIS NEW CONCRETE FENCE BEHIND 'EM, THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE NOW GETTING.
NO, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWO VARIANCES AND WAIVER.
DO I NEED TO STATE WHICH ONE'S ROGELIO? UH, NO.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. ALI, SECOND BY MR. SHELDON.
NOT THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE SECONDED.
I SHOULD ALSO SEE TOO, AT THE, I, I READ PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, AND YEAH, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE PARKING.
UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAT HAD.
THAT'S GONNA EVENTUALLY BE REALLY NICE.
EVERYBODY, UM, ANOTHER, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON THE DESIGN THE APPLICATION OR DID WE JUST, DO WE DO THE WAIVER SEPARATELY? THE VARIANCE? YOU ALREADY APPROVED THE VARIANCE IN THE WAIVER.
SO NOW WE NEED ONE FOR THE DESIGN.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THE CONDITIONS PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS PART OF THE MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION EXCEPT, UH, APPROVING THE DESIGN AND THE CONDITIONS PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANTS.
MOTION BY MR. DINGER FOR A SECOND BY MS. LEWIN.
THANK YOU ALL, ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR THE OUTREACH THAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE RESIDENTS.
MORE TO DO MORE TO DO MORE TO IT.
[5. DRB24-1015, 1801 ALTON ROAD]
1801? YES.UM, THE OTHER VARIANCE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR 1801 HERE READY TO GO? YEP.
THE, YOU WANT ME TO CHECK? YEAH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UH, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT BORDERING A TEMPORARY OR PROVISIONAL SURFACE PARKING LOT, A BUDDING A PROPERTY LINE, STREET, OR SIDEWALK.
AND ONE OR MORE WAIVERS REPLACING AN EXISTING TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS IS FILE NUMBER DRB 24 DASH 10 15, AND IT'S RELATED TO 1801 ALTON ROAD.
UM, THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEWBOARD LAST MONTH ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.
UM, THE DRB DISCUSSED THE ITEM.
THEY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS TO THE APPLICANT.
THEY CONTINUED IT TO THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING, WHICH IS TODAY.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE SUBMITTED SOME REVISED PLANS.
UM, THE STAFF HAS LOOKED AT, UH, THE DRB SPECIFICALLY LAST MONTH, UH, HAD SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THAT THE SITE WAS UNDERUTILIZED.
THE DESIGN DID NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH PRESENCE ON WHAT IS A MAJOR INTERSECTION.
THIS IS ON 18TH STREET AND, AND, UH, SORRY, DADE BOULEVARD AND ALTON
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ROAD.UM, STRAIGHT TO THIS ONE, THE PAVED PARKING AREAS PROPOSED WERE EXCESSIVE AND THAT THERE WERE INSUFFICIENT PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AREAS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE SUBMITTED REVISED PLANS TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.
UM, THE, SO NOW WITH THE NEW, WITH THE REVISED PLANS, THE SIDEWALKS ON ALTON ROAD AND DADE BOULEVARD NOW HAVE A CONTINUOUS WIDTH OF 10 FEET.
UM, SO THIS REDUCES THE SCOPE OF THE PROPOSED WAIVERS.
UH, ENTRANCES TO THE STRUCTURE ARE INSET WITH A COVERING, SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE, UH, LITTLE MORE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY TO THE ENTRANCES, IMPROVED VISIBILITY FOR PEDESTRIANS TO THE ENTRANCES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THE EXTERIOR, UH, MATERIALS AND FINISHES HAVE BEEN MODIFIED AND NOW INCLUDE EXPOSED, TEXTURED CONCRETE AND ALUMINUM LOUVERS AND A WOOD FINISH.
UM, THE HEIGHT HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY INCREASED TO IMPROVE THE PRESENCE AT THE INTERSECTION AND THE NUMBER OF TEMPORARY PARKING SPACES HAS BEEN REDUCED IN ORDER TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF OVERALL PA THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT, UM, AND ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TREES, PLANTS IN THAT AREA.
UM, FRONTING DADE BOULEVARD, UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION ADDRESS THE BOARD'S CONCERNS, UM, AND IMPROVE THE PRESENCE OF THE BUILDING AT THE INTERSECTION ON DADE BOULEVARD.
UH, STAFF DOES AGREE THAT THE SITE REMAINS UNDERUTILIZED.
HOWEVER, WE, WE DO EXPECT THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD SOON WITH A, WITH A PROJECT TO DEVELOP THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY USED AS PARKING AREAS.
UM, SO OVERALL, THE, THE PROPOSED, THE REVISED PLANS ARE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT, UH, WE SAW LAST MONTH.
UM, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED WAIVERS AND VARIANCES, WAIVERS AND VARIANCE.
UM, MICKEY MARRERO TO, SO BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, UH, WITH ME, MY, UH, COLLEAGUE EMILY BALTER, OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT, RENEE GONZALEZ AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, DOMINIC KALO.
UM, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL GIVING ME A FEW EXTRA MINUTES.
I HAD DONUTS WITH DAD, WITH MY DAUGHTER AT SCHOOL TODAY, AND I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT AND NOT SCAR HER FOR LIFE.
SO WE'RE HERE, UM, THAT WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS AND I, AND WE COME THE FIRST TIME, WHETHER IT'S THIS BOARD HPB OR OTHER BOARDS, A LOT OF TIMES WE AND THE TEAM ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT FIRST SUBMITTAL LIST BEFORE YOU, AND THEN WHAT OFTEN HAPPENS AND WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE.
AT LEAST FOR ME, WE LOOK AT YOUR COMMENTS AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, WE COME BACK, WE, AND THEN WE GIVE YOU SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, I THINK THE WHOLE TEAM AGREES.
WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, IS CERTAINLY A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
AND WE'RE VERY, VERY HAPPY THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE WE ARE.
UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA TELL THE WHOLE STORY AGAIN.
I'M HAPPY TO IF YOU ALL WANT TO, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME.
WE HAVE A TENANT WITH CHASE, AN IMPORTANT TENANT TO OUR, TO OUR CLIENT THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR, UH, LEASE, WE WANT TO KEEP THEM THERE.
WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THIS NEW SPACE, BUT ULTIMATELY THE GOAL HERE.
AND WE AGREE THAT THIS PROJECT, IF THIS WAS ALL THAT WE WERE DOING, IS AN UNDER UTILIZATION OF THE SITE.
BUT THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT IS STEP ONE IN A GRANDER PLAN TO SIGNIFICANTLY REALLY DEVELOP THIS SITE.
AND, AND WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO STAFF A LITTLE BIT AND THAT'S COMING SOON.
BUT BECAUSE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIP WITH CHASE, WE DO WANT TO GET THIS PART MOVING.
WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE REVISED VERSION.
I WAS GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PIECEMEAL ALL THESE CHANGES.
UH, ROGELIO DID THAT AND I THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB GOING OVER THEM.
I DO THINK THAT YOUR COMMENTS WERE, WERE WELL TAKEN AND WE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ADDRESS THEM IN A WAY THAT WE ALL BELIEVE THIS IS A FANTASTIC, UH, RESPONSE AND SOMETHING WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF.
UM, WITH THAT, I, I, RENEE IS HERE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM ON THE DESIGN ON WHERE HE GOT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS TO DO THIS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO, TO DO I THINK A, A AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN THAT SHORT TIME.
SO IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RENEE, HE'S HERE ALSO.
DOMINIC IS HERE AND DOMINIC IS, IS THE OWNER OF THE LONG TIME OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, HE LIVES TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE SITE.
HE'S BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
HE'S INVOLVED WITH THE ASSOCIATION THERE, AND HE'S INVOLVED WITH HIS BUILDING ASSOCIATION.
HE'S SOMEONE THAT'S, UH, BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND HE, HE REALLY VALUES, UH, HIS, HIS HIS INPUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO HE WANTS TO SEE THIS SITE BECOME THE SPECIAL THING THAT WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE.
AND STEP ONE, LIKE I SAID, IS, IS GETTING THIS APPROVAL MOVING SO WE COULD START WORKING ON THE NEXT, THE NEXT PHASE.
WE THINK THE THE SIDEWALKS ARE WIDER, WHICH I KNOW IS A CONCERN TO YOU ALL.
HAVING THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ELEMENT OF, OF COVERED SPACES, UH, TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE.
THERE'S MORE LANDSCAPING, THERE'S LESS PARKING, AND FRANKLY, FORGETTING ALL THE CONDITIONS, IT JUST DAMN LOOKS BETTER.
IT LOOKS BETTER, IT LOOKS MORE INTERESTING THAT, THAT THE MATERIALS ARE MORE EXCITING.
SO, SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD OF COURSE ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND WE'D LOVE TO GET AN APPROVAL TODAY SO WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? AND WE'RE HERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? NO.
ANYONE ONLINE? NO HANDS RAISED ONLINE.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC PORTION, OPENING IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO START ON THEIR REVISED DESIGN? I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BEGIN.
OH, ARE, ARE YOU GONNA SHOW THE PRESENTATION AT ALL OR RUN THROUGH IT QUICKLY? QUICKLY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS ACTUALLY UP ALREADY.
WHY DON'T WE JUST WANNA PUT THAT UP.
I WAS REALLY, I THOUGHT WAS IT UP BEFORE? IT WASN'T.
IF I'M LOOKING AT IT THINKING IT WAS UP, I APOLOGIZE.
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BUT THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO START WITH.THIS IS, WELL GO BACK ONE MORE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW LAST MONTH.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE BUILDING.
RENEE THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE BUILDING.
I THINK WE'RE BOTH VERY PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT WE REALLY TOOK TO HEART THE COMMENT THAT IT LOOKED LIKE A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH DOMINIC AND UNDERSTANDING HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONNA SEE THIS EVERY DAY AND MM-HMM,
SO THAT WAS A REALLY BIG PUSH AND WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT FROM, FROM THE, YEAH.
AND, AND WHILE THE, THE BALANCE OF THE SITE WILL BE REDEVELOPED, THIS, THIS WILL STAY, THIS IS PART OF, THIS IS THE PART THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN THE BUILDING.
YOU SEE RENEE GO BACK A COUPLE OF, I MEAN, NOT THE DATE.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA, I KNOW I SKIPPED AHEAD TOO, BUT IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES, PLEASE DO, DO THAT.
SO THE CHANGES ARE, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING LEASE WITH, WITH THE BANK TENANT.
WE KEPT, WE NOW HAVE A CONTINUOUS 10 FOOT SIDEWALK.
IT WAS A CHALLENGE TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU ALL THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
SO WE, WE INCLUDED THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS NOT DRASTICALLY BIGGER, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIGGER TO CREATE MORE OF A PROMINENCE ON THE SITE.
UH, THERE'S NOW ARCHITECTURAL COVERINGS ALLOWING FOR COVER FOR WEATHER AND AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT.
UM, THERE'S LESS GLAZING, MORE TEXTURED CONCRETE, ALUMINUM LOUVERS, WOOD FINISH, ALL THINGS THAT MAKE THE BUILDING A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING, A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE.
AND THERE'S LESS PAVING, LESS TEMPORARY SPACES, MORE LANDSCAPING ON THE OVERALL SITE.
THOSE I THINK ARE THE CHANGES.
WHY DON'T YOU KINDA GO THROUGH, YEAH.
NOW JUST USE THE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE CORNER AND ONE MORE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE SIDE.
AND ALSO ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION, I THINK IT WAS DISCUSSED, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO SEE A NIGHT RENDERING? WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT? UM, HOW'S IT GONNA BE LIT? AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALSO ADDED TO THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THE VARIANCES ARE STILL THERE, BUT THEY'RE MINIMIZED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NOW THE 10 FEET.
SO IT'S LESS AREA, UH, IS REQUESTED IN THE VARIANCES.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON, ON HOW YOU GOT TO THIS MODIFIED VERSION? YES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY, AGAIN, BACK TO THOSE, UH, THOSE COMMENTS, UH, WHERE THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPE OR THE, THE ASPHALT WAS AN ISSUE AND I BELIEVE, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WAS REALLY CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THAT.
LIKE, COULD WE JUST MAKE IT A TREE BANK? BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO DEFINITELY ADD, LET ME GET TO THAT LANDSCAPE RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU COULD RUN US THROUGH THE, THE, THE REVISED LANDSCAPE AND, AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
HAVE YOU REWORKED THE PARKING LOT? SO ON THE REVISED LANDSCAPE HERE, YOU CAN SEE A ALONG DAY BOULEVARD.
WE TOOK OUT FIVE SPACES, UH, THAT WERE ON THE, THE SOUTHEAST, UH, AND MADE THAT COMPLETE LANDSCAPE.
SO IT ADDS TO THE BUFFERING OF THAT TEMPORARY PARKING.
UH, WE ALSO ADDED A MEDIAN, UH, IN THE CENTER OF THE PARKING.
SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT, BUT NO, UM, IT CREATES A ONE-WAY, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, FOR THAT TEMPORARY SPACES THAT ARE ALONGSIDE CHASE, WHICH JUST ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF, SORRY, MORE ACCESSIBILITY, UM, TO, TO THE SITE WHICH WE WANTED TO KEEP, UH, BECAUSE THAT JUST CAN ALLOW SOME MEMBER, OR, YOU KNOW, SOME PATRONS OF CHASE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THAT PARKING AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE BUILDING FOR, FOR THE TEMPORARY TIME BEING.
UM, SO WE DID ADD THAT BUFFER AND WE DID ADD THAT SHADE TREE IN THE CENTER MEDIAN TO REALLY JUST KIND OF REDUCE THAT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT TO REDUCE THAT ASPHALT, UH, COVERAGE.
SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, MS. NELSON, YOU DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE ROOF, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT WAS PAIRED WITH THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURE, UH, IT DIDN'T FIT.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE SENSE OF, UM, SORRY, UH, IN THE SENSE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH TEXTURED CONCRETE, AND I'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH CONCERNS OVER EXPOSED ARCHITECTURAL CONCRETE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I'VE LEARNED MY LESSONS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE A SANDBLASTED TEXTURED, HOMOGENOUS LOOKING CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY REFLECT ANY KIND OF, UM, LET'S SAY CONSTRUCTION ERRORS WITH CONCRETE.
SO, UH, I LEARNED THAT LESSON AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, UH, PORTALS AND A BEAUTIFUL TOP.
UH, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, A AN EXTENDED CANOPY, BUT ALL THAT REALLY MADE IT LOOK, IT WAS LIKE A TOP HAT AND IT JUST LOOKED REALLY STRANGE.
AND I THOUGHT THESE HAVING A DOUBLE, UH, KIND OF, UH, GLAZING OR DOUBLE, UM, AWNING, UH, REALLY ADDED TO A COUPLE THINGS.
NATURAL DAY LIGHTING, UH, HELPED BLOCK A LOT OF IT WITH OUR LOUVRES.
AND THEN AT THESE PORTALS, IT COULD HELP REFLECT A LOT OF THAT LIGHTING FROM THAT, UH, MIDDLE AWNING,
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UH, AT THE ENTRANCES.IT DOES DEFINITELY, UM, ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS KIND OF DUCK IN THERE IF IT DOES, YOU KNOW, DOWNPOUR, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.
UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY ADDS AND SOFTENS THE FACADE.
IT, IT BRINGS A LOT OF TEXTURE TO THAT CORNER.
UH, IT INVITES PEDESTRIANS, UH, TO WALK THERE AND NOT BE AFRAID TO, TO WALK ON THAT, THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING AND, AND REALLY TRIED TO, TO PUSH.
AND DEFINITELY MR. DIFFENDERFER IS A COMMENT IS LIKE, WHY CAN'T THIS BE 10 FEET, THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SIDEWALKS? UM, WE DEFINITELY JUST SHIFTED THE BUILDING NORTH, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATED, ACCOMMODATED THAT SO THAT WE, ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN BE PART OF THIS RESILIENCY IN THAT CIRCULATION ZONE.
UM, I, OKAY, SO WE DID THIS A LITTLE BIT OUTTA ORDER, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD,
UM, SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THESE CHANGES.
AND I AGREE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING WHAT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT ENVELOPE, HOW IT CAN TRANSFORM.
UM, THE, SO, AND I LIKE HOW YOU DID REWORK THIS PARKING LOT AND, AND PUTTING A LARGE TREE IN THE CENTER.
LET ME, IT SEEMS NOW ON THE PLAN, AND I'M LOOKING, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION PAGE 19 MM-HMM.
WITH SOME UNDERCOVER AND THEN, AND THE LAYER BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE LARGER SHADE TREES, OR ARE THOSE SHRUBS? THERE ARE LARGER SHADE TREES ALONG THE STREET EDGE.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AVAILABLE BY ZOOM, BUT, UM, BUT YES, THEY ARE LARGER SHADE TREES, AND WE HAVE A LAYERING OF THE SHRUBBERY IN THE UNDERCOVER.
SO AS YOU GET TO THE SIDEWALK, IT LAYERS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOW, AND THEN IT'S GRADUALLY GOES UP TO LIKE WHERE IT IS AT THE PARKING.
AND THAT'S MORE OF THE COVER, MORE OF THE HEDGE, UH, BUT IT IS LAYERED SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE THE SIDEWALK.
'CAUSE THERE ARE, AND I THINK THIS CAME UP LAST TIME, I'M ALWAYS SURPRISED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND THIS CORNER.
I GUESS THEY'RE COMING FROM SUNSET HARBOR AND MAYBE GOING TO THE APARTMENTS AND THAT CORNER IN PARTICULAR, IT'S JUST, IT'S SO SUNNY, THERE'S NO SHADE.
SO I I, I WOULD KEEP ENCOURAGING YOU TO, I I'M HAPPY THAT YOU PUT SHADE TREES ALONG THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND ALSO THESE ALONG ALTON WILL GROW TO BE BIGGER SHADE TREES AS WELL, AND WE HAVE THAT LAYERING EFFECT TOO.
I WOULD EVEN ENCOURAGE THIS ONE CORNER, YOU KNOW, A CORNER THERE TO PUT AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE IS REALLY APPRECIATED BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE WALKING AROUND.
THERE'S A SURPRISING AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC, RIGHT.
UM, I THINK WE, WE REDUCED THE TREES HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO, THEY WOULD BLOCK THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING.
BUT IF YOU RECALL, ACTUALLY THIS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, UM, ON THIS STREET ON ALTON DIDN'T CHANGE.
SO IF YOU RECALL THE PREVIOUS RENDERINGS, WHICH I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE HERE, BUT WE HAVE WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE AND WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE, UH, PURCHASED AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.
UH, BUT THESE TREES WOULD DEFINITELY PROVIDE SHADE ALONG THE SIDE, ALONG ALTON, YOU KNOW.
JUST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MICHAEL'S.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE THAT CORRIDOR EFFECT.
AND THEN I, I DO LIKE THE, UM, I GUESS SORT OF THE EYEBROWS OR THE AWNINGS THAT YOU PUT, DID YOU EXPLORE HAVING THEM COME OUT MORE? I, I DID.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, TO COME OUT JUST AT THE ENTRANCES FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, UH, UH, LIKE AN ALSO A TEMPORARY NOD.
LIKE NOT SOMETHING THAT FELT DEVELOPED OR FELT LIKE IT WAS INTEGRAL TO THE, TO THE STRUCTURE OR TO THE FACADE.
UM, WHEN WE KIND OF DID THE WHOLE EYEBROW AROUND THE BUILDING JUST TO KIND OF GIVE MORE SHADE, UM, IT FELT LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IT LOOKED LIKE A TOP HAT TOO MUCH.
SO I WISH I COULD HAVE, UH, JUST SHOWN YOU THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I, I WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS, UH, THREE DIMENSIONALLY TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD FEEL LIKE.
UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IT WOULD ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, IN PUBLIC WORKS AS PURVIEW.
'CAUSE WE'RE RIGHT THERE ON THE PROPERTY, SO IT IS A REVOCABLE PERMIT AT THAT POINT.
UH, I WANTED TO AVOID THAT AND KEEP THE ARCHITECTURE KIND OF, UM, NOT DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REVOKED.
SO THAT, THAT WAS A, A PRIMARY CONCERN FOR ME.
YEAH, NO, I, UM, I MEAN, WITH ALL THE SHADE TREES TOO, YOU'VE, YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN WITH THE NEW BUILDING, YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE BUILDING IN THE SWALE, AND PERHAPS THOSE TREES COULD STAY.
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EVERYTHING, I THINK THE ONLY, UM, TREES THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED, UM, IF I GO DOWN TO THE LANDSCAPE, UH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE THREE PALMS IN THE SHADE TREE IN THE, IN THE CENTER OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE.UM, GENERALLY THE, THE SHRUBS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE REPLACED THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG DADE UH, DADE HAS A VERY STRANGE PROPERTY LINE RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THE PROPERTY LINE ALMOST GOES TO THE CURB.
IT'S A VERY WEIRD JAGGED THAT THE PROPERTY LINE REALLY JUST LIKE, KIND OF RIDES THE CURB.
UM, BUT IN THAT CASE, WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE RESILIENCY CODE AND THE TRANSITION AND THE CIRCULATION.
UH, BUT REALLY IT WOULD BE THOSE THREE PALMS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND ANY OF THE KIND OF TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE TEMPORARY, IN THE CENTER, IN THE CENTER OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND THEN MAYBE THAT ONE SHADE TREE THAT'S AT THE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING WITHIN THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AS WELL.
BECAUSE IT IS GONNA BE A, A, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE STRUCTURE WOULD RIGHT AFTER, AFTER A FEW YEARS OF GROWTH AND YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S VERY GOOD TO HEAR.
UM, AND THEN YOU, YOU KEPT FLIPPING THROUGH, THERE WAS A ROOF PLAN.
SO ALL THAT AREA IN THE GREEN, THAT'S ALL THE PLANTER THAT'S GONNA BE HANGING DOWN, OR NOT NECESSARILY.
THAT'S ALL THE, THAT'S THE 50% REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S ALL OF THE, IT'S GONNA BE ALSO A LAYERED EFFECT, BUT, SO IT WOULD HAVE THE CREEPERS THAT GO ALONG THE EDGE.
UM, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS PUSHING A LOT FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL ON THE CENTER TO SCREEN ANY OF THE MECHANICAL, UH, THAT WE HAVE.
OH, WAIT, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT HERE? SORRY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE ROOF? YEAH, THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH, THAT'S THE ROOF OF OKAY.
JUST SHOWING THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT ROOF.
SO, AND IS THERE, I DON'T ACCESS, HOW DO YOU GET UP TO THE ROOF? I WASN'T SEEING INTERNALLY NEAR THE MECHANICAL AREA.
WE'D PROBABLY PUT A ROOF HATCH NEAR THE MECHANICAL COMPONENT.
AND YOU'LL SEE IF I HAVE, IT'S NOT LIKE A, IT'S NOT AN ACTIVE ROOF, BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFY.
THAT'S WHAT, WELL, IT NEEDS ACCESS.
NO, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF, WE'VE BECOME NEWLY CONCERNED WITH ROOF STRUCTURES THAT AREN'T IN THE THING, THE DESIGNS THAT WE SEE AND THEN SUDDENLY APPEAR.
BUT WE DO HAVE, OR WE DID HAVE A MECHANICAL SCREEN, SOMEHOW IT DISAPPEARED FROM MY PLAN.
UM, BUT IT IS, THERE IS A MECHANICAL SCREEN THAT WE DID DESIGN AND THEN THAT, AND SO THAT COULD BE A CONDITION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, UH, A BIG PART OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.
UH, AND I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ALREADY A CONDITION IN TO BE REVIEWED IN THE DRAFT ORDER.
I'M PRETTY SURE, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY IN EVERY SINGLE DRAFT ORDER.
UM, BUT WE DID HAVE THAT DESIGNED, AND I THINK PREVIOUSLY IT WAS DESIGNED MORE OF AN OVAL.
AND IN THIS CASE WE DESIGNED IT TO BE MORE OF A RECTANGULAR WITH CURVED EDGES, KIND OF LIKE AN IPHONE SHAPE, UH, JUST TO BE MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS DESIGN.
AND BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE, THE STRUCTURE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD SEE THAT FROM THE STREET OR NOT NECESSARILY? IT'S GONNA BE IN THE MIDDLE? NOT NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, WE, YOU WOULD SEE MAYBE JUST THE, LIKE THE TOP EDGE LOVE IT OF IT, BUT NOT REALLY.
'CAUSE PART OF, UH, WHAT MICKEY PRESENTED IS THAT WE DID RAISE A CLOSE TO FIVE FEET TO THE STRUCTURE.
SO YOU WOULD DEFINITELY NOT SEE IT FROM ALTON.
UM, I MEAN, IF YOU WERE MAYBE IN THE GARAGE AT MICHAEL'S, RIGHT.
UH, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY SEE IT.
UM, BUT YOU WOULDN'T PERCEIVE IT IF YOU WERE ANYWHERE NEAR 20 FEET FROM THE BUILDING OR EVEN 50 FEET FROM THE BUILDING, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT.
'CAUSE THE, THIS PARAPET ON THE TOP, IT'S, IT'S HIGHER.
AND I, AND I SEE IF I HAVE THE, I DON'T HAVE THE SECTIONS HERE, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE FULL PRESENTATION IN THE, IN THE REAR, WE HAVE, UH, SECTIONS OF THE BUILDING AND THOSE HAVE, UM, THOSE HAVE THE PARAPET HEIGHT.
SO WITHIN THE STRUCTURE WE HAVE FIVE FEET.
SO IF WE HAVE THE ROOF STRUCTURE HERE, WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE FEET GOING VERTICAL FROM THE ROOF STRUCTURE.
AND TYPICALLY THEY REQUEST LIKE A FIVE FOOT MECHANICAL SCREEN JUST TO KIND OF COVER YEAH.
THOSE, UM, SO IF WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SCREEN AROUND IT, MAYBE YOU'LL SEE THE TOP EDGE.
IF YOU'RE SOMEWHERE IN SUNSET HARBOR WALKING GREAT TO, BUT IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN, YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT.
YEAH, NO, AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE GREEN ELEMENT ON THE ROOF.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I FEEL LIKE I'VE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
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SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FIRST OF ALL, THE SIDEWALKS.I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY REALLY WILL.
AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SAME BUILDING.
THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT.
I LOVE THE CURVE ON THE CORNER, THE SIGN, THE HIGHER CEILINGS IT'S GONNA MAKE.
I REMEMBER BEING A KID AND GOING TO THE BANK WHEN IT WAS LIKE A, AN EVENT, LIKE A THING.
AND THIS IS WHAT IT REMINDS ME OF.
WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE THE ENTRANCE IN THAT CORNER THOUGH? BECAUSE THERE'S A, THAT CORNER BANKED, BY THE WAY, I'M DRIVING BY EVERY, I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THIS LAST NIGHT.
AND I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD, THAT'S NOT A DOOR.
AND I'M LIKE, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE AN ENTRANCE.
AND IF I'M DRIVING OR WALKING, PARTICULARLY THE, ALL THE PEDESTRIANS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GRAVITATE TOWARDS.
AND IT'S JUST SAD TO, I HOPE THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A POLITICAL SOUNDBITE, BUT IT'S A CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, RESILIENCY.
AND THE RESILIENCY CODE THAT WE HAVE, UH, FROM THE ELEVATION THAT WE HAVE AT THE CURRENT CURB LEVEL, IT'S ALMOST THREE OR FOUR FEET TO, TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.
SO, UM, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOME MONUMENTAL TYPE STAIR OR EVERYTHING.
I THINK THAT KIND OF TOOK AWAY FROM THE FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK IT WAS LIKE SO GRAND IT DIDN'T REALLY FIT WITH THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S REALLY THE HEIGHT TO GET TO THE THING.
SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IS MODIFYING THE SIDE SIDEWALK ON ALTON TO ACTUALLY RAMP UP TO GET US TO A LEVEL THAT'S WITHIN A, A KIND OF LIKE A, UM, LET'S CALL IT AN ACCEPTABLE STAIR HEIGHT, SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T LIKE CHUGGING UP 10, 10 STEPS.
TO GET TO THE, TO GET TO, IT'S SAD TO ME.
I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA TANK MY APPROVAL FOR THAT, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I, LISTEN, I LOVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF THAT CORNER BA WITH THE LOUVERS AROUND THE REST OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT, IT TOTALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE, ESPECIALLY THE SIGN ABOVE IT.
AND I WOULD NEED AN EXTRA, I WOULD NEED, NEED AN EXTRA ALMOST 10 FEET TO PUSH THE BUILDING NORTH TO ACCOMMODATE A STAIR.
I MEAN, I, THE ARCHITECTS IN THE ROOM, AS Y'ALL WOULD KNOW, MAYBE ONE, MAYBE ONE DAY THEY'LL PUT VERBAL ACCESSIBILITY.
YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR IT.
BUT IT, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF AREA, YOU KNOW.
AND IT DOES BEG THE QUESTION, THE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE ENTRANCE IS OFF THE PARKING LOT OR IT'S ON ALTON ROAD? IT'S ON ALTON ROAD.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE ANOTHER AADA A, SO, OH, I SEE.
WITH THAT RESPECT, OUR A DA RAMP IS CURRENTLY ON THE TEMPORARY SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.
SO THAT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE TEMPORARY SIDE, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL UP.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNAGE ABOVE THOSE DOORS ON THE WEST SIDE? YES, YES.
OH, WELL, PRIMARILY OVER THE CORNER, BUT YES, UH, THERE WOULD BE SIGNAGE, UH, IF NEEDED ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT ON THE EAST SIDE, FACING THE TEMPORARY LOT, THAT'S WHERE OUR CURRENT A DA RAMP, WHICH IS CLOSE TO 35 FEET LONG, UM, IS LOCATED, PLEASE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT'S NOT LIKE A LITTLE ENGRAVED SIGN THAT SAYS ENTRANCE THAT WAY.
BECAUSE
SO ANY KIND OF HEIGHTS, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ELIMINATE ANY KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TECHNICAL LOOKING.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE INTEGRATED TO, UH, THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION DESIGN, FLOOD ELEVATION THAT WE IS REQUIRED FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE.
SO ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT'S ONE THING.
ON THE, ON THE ALTON SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO KIND OF, UM, SO THIS SHOWS THE ADA A RAMP ON THE SCREEN.
IF YOU WANNA PULL THAT UP ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU KNOW THAT.
UM, THAT'S HOW WE GET THERE TEMPORARILY, ADA A WISE ON THIS SIDE.
UH, WE CAN ENTER, UH, WITH A COUPLE STEPS HERE.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE DISTANCE I'D HAVE TO PUSH EAST THE WHOLE BUILDING JUST TO GET THE HEIGHT.
IF I WERE TO LEAVE THE ELEVATION OF ALTON SIDEWALK THE WAY WHERE IT IS.
BUT YOU DID A GREAT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM I HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE.
IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU LISTENED TO US AND IT, I THINK IT'S SUCH A BETTER PROJECT.
UM, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN PAGE.
SO TELL ME WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN AND WHEN, UH, WITH THIS SITE, THIS BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY WILL CONTINUE TO STAY WITH ITS EXISTING HEIGHT AND DESIGN, AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE PARKING AND SURROUNDING,
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UH, IN THE PARKING AREA, I GUESS.UM, SO I DO WANT TO, WITHIN THE, THE CURRENT PROPOSED STRUCTURE, I DO WANT TO IN INCORPORATE SOME COLUMNS THAT'LL BE WITH, ABLE TO BE ADDED ONTO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING TO COME ABOVE.
'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE AIR RIGHTS OF EVERYTHING ABOVE.
UH, SO THE IDEA IS THAT IF THAT CAN CREATE ANOTHER, UH, BUBBLE SPACE, ALMOST LIKE AN AMENITY AREA, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 20 FOOT HIGH GAP, BUT STILL HAVE STRUCTURE, UH, COME ABOVE, UM, THAT'S AN IDEA THERE.
BUT THE IDEA IS TO UTILIZE 100% OF THE SITE.
SO IF YOU NOTICED IN OUR, YOU KNOW, THE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO WE HAD A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT, THAT WAS ON THE NORTH, UH, KIND OF SKINNY PORTION OF THE SITE.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA UTILIZE THAT AS, AS ENTRANCES.
AND ALSO ON THE ALTON SIDE, UTILIZE OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH FDOT, UH, TO REALLY EXPAND THAT, UH, DRIVEWAY, UH, TO A TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY, AND ALLOW A PARKING ENTRANCE THERE, WHICH WOULD, WHICH WOULD BE MORE, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, A DRIVEWAY WITH A VALET.
AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'D KIND OF PREVIOUSLY DESIGNED, UM, CAN'T REALLY POINT TO IT.
BUT IF YOU SEE NORTH OF OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURE, THOSE PARKING SPACES, THOSE A DA SPACES BECOME KIND OF LIKE A VALET ROUNDABOUT INTERNALLY THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN SO MANY OF, UH, OF THESE MIXED USE AND HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS.
AND THOSE THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO, UH, THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT ARE GONNA BE ALONG DATE BOULEVARD.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS ABOVE IS PRIMARILY PARKING, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE CLIENT AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE HAD MORE COMMERCIAL, UH, FOR OFFICE, UH, WITH CD ONE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, LIMITED ON, ON HEIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, WE HAD PROPOSED OFFICE BEFORE AND WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT AGAIN.
AND THE, UM, WITH THE AREA BEHIND THE PARKING LOT OR THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE TO, I GUESS THAT'S THE NORTH ON 18TH STREET, THAT'S NOT THAT YOU ENTER THROUGH 19? NO, I, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA BUILD MORE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT IS NOW, WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THE BIG TRAY, WE'RE THAT'S GONNA BE FILLED IN WITH STRUCTURE.
ALL THE PARKING NORTH OF OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURE AND THE TEMPORARY PARKING, THAT KIND OF TRAPEZOIDAL SHAPE WOULD BE THE BASE BUILDING.
AND, UH, WE WOULD ALSO IMPROVE THE NORTH TO EITHER BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO, THREE LEVELS OF PARKING, UH, ON THAT STRIP.
I'VE, THAT ENTRANCE IS THROUGH 18TH STREET, AND I'VE DESIGNED THAT BEFORE, SO I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, OVER THREE, FOUR YEARS.
AND, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE SORT OF SPEAKING IN GENERALITIES IS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE PRO THE PROPERTY'S ON CD ONE NOW, AND FOR ITS PROMINENT LOCATION, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THIS SITE, CD ONE IS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL ZONING, SO IT'S VERY LIMITING.
SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHALLENGING TO DO WHAT THE SITE DEMANDS WITH THAT ZONING.
CURRENTLY, THE CITY, THE STATE, AND, BUT PRIMARILY THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH A LOT OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, UH, INCENTIVIZING WORKFORCE HOUSING, POTENTIALLY MIXED USE PROJECTS.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF GOING ON THAT IT'S ONGOING.
SO IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THOSE INCENTIVES, THOSE ALL THAT LEGISLATION WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE.
BUT WE'RE KIND OF LETTING THAT PROCESS HAPPEN.
AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK, I THINK, SOONER THAN, THAN MAY COULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
I, I THINK, BUT A LOT, A LOT DEPENDED ON WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS LEGISLATIVELY AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AND WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS SPECIAL.
AND WAS THERE EVER ANY DISCUSSION, WELL, I GUESS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT THAT PROGRAM TO JUST SORT OF CREATIVELY REUSE THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE, OR IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK WITH THE AGENDA? WELL, WE HAD, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD THAT PRIOR APPROVAL.
IT'S, IT'S IN THAT, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO IT, IT'S, BUT IT, IT JUST ULTIMATELY THE LIMITING, THE LIMITING AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE COULD GET THERE AND THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO THAT PROJECT, WHILE WE THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL, WAS ABANDONED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO NOW WITH THESE INITIAL INCENTIVES, WE BELIEVE SOMETHING WILL BE ABLE TO HAPPEN.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR FOLLOW UPS? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR? NO, NO, I JUST, THANK YOU.
UM, I, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE INITIAL BUILDING, BUT AFTER SEEING THESE COMMENTS, IT'S INFINITELY BETTER.
I THINK THAT THE MATERIAL CHOICE, JUST, IT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING OF COURSE LENDS TO MORE TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT NOW THIS REALLY STANDS ON ITS OWN WITH THE MATERIALS NOW.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR REALLY SHOWING THE VISION OF WHAT THE LANDSCAPING LOOKS LIKE ON, ON DATE, BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN LAST TIME.
BUT, UM, YEAH, IT LOOKS, LOOKS GREAT.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE ORDER AS AS DRAFTED.
AND THAT'S INCLUDING THE, INCLUDING THE VARIANCES AND THE, AND THE WAIVER, CORRECT? YES.
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OKAY.I, I'M A MIAMI BEACH RESIDENT FOR 26 YEARS.
THIS IS A LEGACY PROPERTY FOR MY TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE YACHT CLUB OF SUNSET HARBOR.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE FOR THE TOWN HOMES OF SUNSET HARBOR.
UM, AND AS RENEE SAID, I WALK BY IT ALL THE TIME, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M PROUD OF.
AND THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND THAT'S ALSO WALKABLE AND, AND, AND PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY.
PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
SO, SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
UM, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT, UH, BECAUSE I, I, I LIVE TWO BLOCKS AWAY AND, UH, IT'S GONNA BE BEAUTIFUL.
ALL OF THE OWNER, HE'S AND NEIGHBOR AND SUPPORT TOO.
NO, I THINK THAT WE ALL REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS THAT EXTRA, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY MOTIVATION, BUT JUST SORT OF THE BUY-IN TO HAVE THE LARGER COMMUNITY INTEREST AT HEART.
UM, AND I, I THINK ON ALL OF OUR BEHALF, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT OUR COMMENTS WERE CONSTRUCTIVE.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOUR TEAM RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE HERE TO IMPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AS OPPOSED TO BE OPPOSITIONAL.
SO, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE UGLIEST PARTS I THINK OF ALTON ROAD AND IT BORDERS ALL OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOUR PROJECT NOW IS GONNA BE PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL LEGACY.
WE'RE LEAVING WITH THE WHOLE FOODS AND THE OTHER STUFF COMING ALONG.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
I KEPT THINKING OF THE WHOLE FOODS AND HOW THAT HAS LOTS OF LANDSCAPING ON THE OUTSIDE, AND THIS IS GONNA BE A NICE ADDITION TO IT.
AND I JUST WANNA SHARE ONE THING, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE PLANS FOR A FUTURE SITE, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS.
OBVIOUSLY, AS MICKEY SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF LEGISLATION HAPPENING, BUT THE PHASE TWO, IF YOU WILL, IS TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY FROM LINCOLN ROAD, FROM SUNSET HARBOR TO THIS AREA, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF IN ITS OWN LITTLE OASIS LOST RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT IS THE PLAN GOING FORWARD.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, HOPEFULLY WITH SOMETHING THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
AND I THINK HAVING ALL THE EXTRA TREES WILL HELP THAT, YOU KNOW, I WISH THERE WAS MORE, I WOULD'VE PUT MORE TREES ALONG ALTON, BUT AT LEAST IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO WALK MORE.
SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO THAT? THERE, IS THERE JUST ONE MORE, UM, ITEM WITH THE VARIANCE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO SHOULD I CALL IT, UH, DRB 24 1 0 4 1 900
[9. DRB24-1041, 900 WEST AVENUE.]
WEST AVENUE? YES.SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, INCLUDING NEW FINISHES, LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE, INCLUDING A VARIANCE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR SIGNAGE WITH NON INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL LETTERS.
UM, JUST FOR BACKGROUND, THIS IS, UM, UH, THE SOUTH GATE TOWERS, UH, ON WEST AVENUE.
UM, IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.
THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, UM, IN, UM, 19, I BELIEVE 19 50 50.
DID I HAVE THE DATE? I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE DATE FROM THE FIFTIES.
UM, THE, THE, UM, THE BUILDING HAS GONE THROUGH SOME UPDATES OVER TIME.
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO APPROVE, UH, MODIFICATIONS.
UH, THERE WAS ONE IN 2010, UH, ANOTHER ONE IN 2013, UH, AND ANOTHER ONE IN 2021, WHERE THE DRB APPROVED VARIOUS UPDATES TO THE, TO THE BUILDING TO MODERNIZE THE BUILDING.
UM, THE BUILDING'S IN THE R THREE DISTRICT, UM, IT'S ON A LOT.
UM, HAS A, AN EXISTING FAR OF 147,463 SQUARE FEET, OR AN FAR OF 1.17.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING, UM, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE GROUND LEVEL, PRIMARILY, UM, THE MODIFICATIONS ARE INTENDED TO IMPROVE THE SENSE OF ARRIVAL OF, AT THE BUILDING AND ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES UPDATING THE EXISTING CANOPY STRUCTURE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE WITH NEW FINISHES, LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE.
UH, THE CANOPY WILL BE REC RELIED WITH GLAZED TILE COLUMNS, UM, AND A NOT WOOD METAL CEILING.
UH, THE FRONT ENTRY CIRCLE WILL RECEIVE NEW LANDSCAPING AND A REDESIGNED FOUNTAIN.
UM, THE STOREFRONT AT THE MAIN LOBBY IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED WITH A NANO WALL SYSTEM, UM, AND ADDITION.
AND ALSO THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROPOSING A BUILDING IDENTIFICATION SIGN ABOVE THE CANOPY.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THAT SIGN TO ALLOW FOR CURSIVE SCRIPT.
UM, THE STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES ENHANCE THE BUILDING FEATURE AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE.
UM, AND I'LL DISCUSS THE, THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE ON THAT SIGNAGE IN A MOMENT.
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ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, ON THE POOL ENTRY SIDE, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING GROUND LEVEL FACADE AND REPLACE THAT WITH THE SLIDING GLASS DOOR NANO WALL.UM, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TERRACE WITH STAIRS THAT ENTER THE POOL DECK AND THE POOL WITH NEW LANDSCAPING.
AND THERE WOULD BE AN A FIVE FOOT TALL, UM, GLASS POOL FENCE AROUND THE, UH, AROUND THE POOL AREA.
UM, THE VARIANCE IS AS A RESULT OF A REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE, UM, THAT REQUIRES THAT SIGNS SHALL CONSIST OF INDIVIDUAL LETTERS TO ALLOW FOR NON INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL LETTERS.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A CURSIVE SCRIPT AND CURSIVE SCRIPT LETTERS TOUCH EACH OTHER.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, A, A MI MINOR TECHNICALITY FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE.
UM, THE, THE SIGN DOES COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE CODE REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS FOR SIGNS NOT TO BE OVERLY CLUTTERED, FOR LETTERS TO BE SEPARATED, FOR SIGNS TO BE WELL DESIGNED.
AND, AND, AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AND THE SIGN DOES COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'M MISSING? I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UH, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, UH, APPROVE THE PROJECT, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS ENUMERATED IN THE DRAFT ORDER AND, UH, AND THE VARIANCE.
AND CAN YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION? DO WE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING TO, YEAH.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO MOVE THE SLIDES AROUND THERE.
UM, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE DRB.
I AM SENIOR DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS FOR AIR COMMUNITIES.
WE ARE THE OWNER OF 900 WEST AVENUE, WHICH WE CALL SOUTHGATE TOWERS.
I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE DAN DORE, AND THEN ALSO OUR ARCHITECT FROM TRIBE ARCHITECTS, BILL MOON.
UM, AND I THOUGHT I'D START OFF WITH JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND ABOUT OUR COMPANY, BECAUSE WE ARE THE NEW OWNERS OF SOUTHGATE TOWERS.
WE OWN AND OPERATE APARTMENT COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE, AND, UM, INCLUDING 12 COMMUNITIES AND ABOUT 5,000 UNITS IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA IN MIAMI BEACH.
IT'S, UM, WE'VE GOT SOUTHGATE AND WE ALSO ARE THE OWNER OF THE FLAMINGO.
UM, WE STRIVE TO BE THE BEST OWNER AND OPERATOR OF APARTMENT COMMUNITIES IN THE BUSINESS RESIDENT AND EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD TO HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL NATIONAL AND REGIONAL AWARDS, INCLUDING RANKING SECOND IN THE NATION, IN RESIDENT SATISFACTION AMONG OUR PEERS, AND RECEIVING TOP WORKPLACE AWARDS BOTH NATIONALLY AND HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
UM, WE'RE ALSO BIG BELIEVERS IN BUILDING COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE AN, UH, PROGRAM CALLED AIR GIVES WHERE EVERY ONE OF OUR TEAMMATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY GETS 15 PAID HOURS OF LEAVE TO DO VOLUNTEER WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE PHOTOS ON THE SCREEN HERE ARE OF OUR SOUTHEAST FLORIDA TEAM, UM, DOING A BEACH CLEANUP IN CRANDEN PARK, KI BISCAYNE.
SO IF YOU GUYS HEAR OF AN EVENT HERE IN MIAMI BEACH THAT NEEDS A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK, LET US KNOW.
UM, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO CONTINUALLY INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY.
WE ARE PROPOSING A MINOR RENOVATION, UM, AT SOUTHGATE TOWERS THAT AFFECTS THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, BOTH AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND AT THE EXIT.
UM, SO ON EITHER SIDE OF THE LOBBY, UM, UH, AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE, AND THEN ON THE EXIT TO THE POOL.
UM, THESE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS COMPLIMENT INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE TO THE LOBBY, WHICH IS A SEPARATE PERMITTED PROJECT.
UM, AND THEY'RE BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM OUR RESIDENTS, UM, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE OWNED THE BUILDING.
SO IN JANUARY, 2023 IS WHEN WE, UH, BECAME OWNERS OF SOUTHGATE TOWERS.
UM, WE SURVEY OUR RESIDENTS REGULARLY.
AND SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE AN IMPROVED ENTRY EXPERIENCE.
UM, THERE'S SOME CONGESTION THAT IS OCCURRING AT THE ENTRANCE BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND PACKAGE DELIVERIES.
SO, UM, THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT EXPERIENCE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE COMMUNITY SPACE IN THE LOBBY ITSELF, UM, WHICH ISN'T PART OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE LOBBY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND SO IN THIS APPLICATION, AS ROGELIO MENTIONED, UM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE CANOPY SIGNAGE, THE FOUNTAIN LANDSCAPING, AND, UM, THE ENTRANCE DOORS THEMSELVES.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE TRANSITION TO, UH, FROM THE LOBBY TO THE POOL IN THE BACK.
UM, THIS DESIGN IS MORE SOPHISTICATED AND REFINED THAN WHAT IS THERE TODAY.
AND THE INTENT IS TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE, UM, OF ENTERING THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO WHILE HONORING THE ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND ALSO MIAMI BEACH.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE RECEIVED SOME REALLY HELPFUL FEEDBACK ON THIS APPLICATION.
UM, OVERALL THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN POSITIVE.
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SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE NEON SIGN THAT WAS PUT IN OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION.THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT LIGHT GLARE FROM THE NEON.
AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY THAT IS NOT IN THE APPLICATION IS AN ALTERNATE SIGN PROPOSED THAT, UM, MEETS THE SAME INTENT, BUT IS A BACKLIT SIGN INSTEAD OF NEON.
AND, AND BILL CAN EXPLAIN THAT MORE.
UM, AND YEAH, I'LL HAVE HIM GO THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS.
I'M BILL MOON WITH TRIBE ARCHITECTS.
UM, AS BARB SAID, THIS IS A, A FAIRLY MINOR REMODEL ON THE EXTERIOR, UH, STARTING AT THE FRONT ENTRY, JUST A QUICK MAP OF, UH, WHERE SOUTHGATE IS LOCATED.
UH, AND THIS IS A MAP SHOWING, UH, THE LIMITED SCOPE OF WORK AT THE FRONT ENTRY, UH, INCLUDING, UH, MINOR LANDSCAPING AT THE ENTRY, SIGNAGE, UH, REWORKING OF THE EXISTING FOUNTAIN IN FRONT OF THE CANOPY, UH, SOME MINOR WORK AT THE CANOPY, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, PART OF THE, UH, INTRODUCTION THAT WE'D HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY OF A, UH, KIND OF A MORE TRANSPARENT, APPROACHABLE, WARMER ENTRANCE.
UH, AND THEN THAT LOBBY SPACE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT CONNECT TO THE EXTERIOR POOL SPACE, UM, DIRECTLY, AND THERE WAS A REAL DESIRE THAT IT'S MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT AND DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THAT BACK POOL DECK.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE AREAS OF SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ENLARGED HERE, GOING THROUGH SOME DETAILS.
UM, REALLY STARTING FROM THE BOTTOM INWARD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME MINOR RIGHT NOW AROUND THE ENTRY SIGN.
THERE'S ZERO LANDSCAPING, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING SOME MINOR LANDSCAPING THERE TO SOFTEN THAT AREA AROUND THE FRONT ENTRY CANOPY.
UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING, UM, UH, FOUNTAIN THAT IS, UH, ALSO HAS A WALL, UH, BETWEEN THE CANOPY AND THE FOUNTAIN THAT WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE.
UH, REPURPOSE THOSE COLUMNS, UH, REPURPOSE THE, UM, THE FOUNTAIN WITH, UH, REFRESHED LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S, UM, SOME BEAUTIFUL, UH, PALM TREES THAT HAVE ALSO HAVE SOME OVERGROWN SHRUBS.
WE'D LIKE TO REMAIN, KEEP THE PALM TREES, BUT REFRESH THAT LANDSCAPING WITH MORE APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING OF SCALE SO THAT IT'S MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT TOWARDS THE FRONT ENTRY DOOR.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CANOPY ITSELF.
UH, THE SIGNAGE HERE, I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT.
UH, BUT AT THE CANOPY ITSELF, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, RUNNING THROUGH.
YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY WE'RE KEEPING THE EXACT SAME GEOMETRY AND ARCHITECTURE.
WE'RE SIMPLY REMOVING A PORTION OF THE WALL UP FRONT THAT'S, UH, HALF HEIGHT WALL AT THE COLUMNS.
AND THEN, UH, INTRODUCING, UH, A KNOT WOOD MATERIAL, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CANOPY ITSELF.
THAT'S MUCH MORE WARMER AND ILLUMINATED, SO IT'S A MUCH MORE ENTRY OR A TRANSPARENT WELCOMING ENTRY.
UH, REMOVING THE EXISTING STOREFRONT, WHICH IS A PAIR OF KIND OF SLIDING DOORS.
AND AS BARB SAID IT RIGHT NOW, INTERFACES WITH EVERYBODY COMING TO THE BUILDING.
WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT, A VISITOR, THE AMAZON DELIVERY PERSON, OR ANYBODY ELSE, YOU COME IN AND OUT THAT FRONT DOOR CONTRIBUTING THE CONGESTION.
UH, BY HAVING A NEW NANO WALL SYSTEM WITH A PAIR OF DOORS NEXT TO IT, IT ENABLES US TO, UH, ON, UH, APPROPRIATE, UH, WEATHER DAYS, BE ABLE TO OPEN THE ENTIRE LOBBY OPEN.
UM, WE ALSO ARE HAVING THE DELIVERY TRUCKS, UH, HAVE DESIGNATED PARKING OVER TOWARDS, UH, THE LEFT.
THERE'S A SEPARATE ENTRY THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO A PACKAGE DELIVERY ROOM, SO IT KIND OF SEPARATES THAT SERVICE FROM THE RESIDENCE.
AND THAT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL THAT WE'D HEARD DIRECTLY FROM THE RESIDENTS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UH, AND THEN AS WE GET, UH, INTO THE POOL AREA, TO THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING STOREFRONT.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WE'RE NOT MODIFYING THE ENTIRE FACADE.
THIS IS A VERY SMALL AREA, THE EXISTING STOREFRONT, WE'RE SIMPLY REPLACING THAT WITH NANO WALL, THE EXACT SAME PROPORTION AND GEOMETRY OF THE STOREFRONT WILL BE REPEATED IN THE NANO WALL.
IT SIMPLY WILL BE, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THAT, UH, THAT LOBBY DIRECTLY TO THE POOL AREA.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT, UH, THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE, SOME OF THAT, THE SHRUBBERY STARTED TO BECOME OVERGROWN, AND WE WANT TO JUST BASICALLY, UH, TIGHTEN UP AND, UH, REALLY BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE INTENT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE NEW SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE SCRIPT.
UH, THAT WAS, UH, KEEPING IN WITH SOME LOCAL TRADITION.
UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED TO BE NEON, BUT AGAIN, HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T DESIRE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, JUST, UH, LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTERS THAT WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF ILLUMINATION.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE, UM, ARE PROPOSING NOW FOR THE SIGNAGE IN, IN LIEU OF THE NEON, UH, KEEPING THE SAME DESIGN INTENT, BUT HAVING THE BACK CHANNEL ILLUMINATION MUCH MORE FRIENDLIER.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL ONE.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS SUBMITTED ORIGINALLY AS NEON.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, FOR THE SIGNAGE FOR THE BACK, UH, BACK ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER.
AND YEAH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
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PROCESS.SO WE DID SEND, UM, OUT, WELL WITH THE CITY'S HELP, UH, 949 NOTIFICATIONS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 375 FEET OF SOUTHGATE TOWERS.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE WAV A BOARD AND ALSO MET WITH THEM AND, UH, WALKED THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AND GOT SOME WONDERFUL FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
UM, WE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGNAGE WAS POSTED ON THE SITE.
UM, WE ALSO MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS AND SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL TENANTS.
UM, AND, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKET THAT THERE'S, UH, LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
ONE FROM, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PO MOOSE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF OUR BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN TWO FROM, UM, RESIDENTS OF SOUTHGATE WHO ARE ALSO, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES OF OURS WHO, ONE IS THE COMMUNITY MANAGER AND ONE IS THE SERVICE MANAGER.
UM, AND THEN AS MENTIONED, THERE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER, I THINK WE'VE RECEIVED, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORD BUT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS OVER 1200, UH, SURVEYS OVER THE PAST, UM, YOU KNOW, 20 MONTHS OR SO SINCE WE'VE OWNED THE BUILDING.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADDRESSING MANY OF THE COMMON REQUESTS THAT, UM, COME IN THOSE SURVEYS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK? ANYONE ONLINE? WE HAVE ONE HAND RAISED ONLINE.
CAN YOU, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? OH, NOT ON ZOOM.
UM, INDIVIDUAL NOT RAISE HAND IF THEY'RE USING IT.
NO, THE STAR NINE IS JUST IF YOU'RE BY, IF YOU'RE BY PHONE.
YEAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
UM, OH, I, I APPRECIATE, HI, JUST A MINUTE.
UM, I, I I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU START.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? ABSOLUTELY.
YES, JUST A OPINION FROM THE, UH, THE PUBLIC.
UM, I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, LOOK VERY NICE.
I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO, TO THE EXTENT THEY POSSIBLE TIE ANY APPROVALS TO, UH, THE PROPERTY OPENING UP THEIR BAY WALK, WHICH I THINK THE COMMUNITY REALLY DESERVES ACCESS TO.
IT'S APPARENTLY READY TO GO, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
I JUST, I JUST NEED TO, UH, SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU PROCEED.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR AND OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I SWEAR.
MY NAME IS, I LIVE IN SIX 50 WEST AVENUE WITH MY FAMILY, INCLUDING MY 7-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER PATRICK.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN WORKING ON EXPANDING ACTIONS TO THE BAY FOR YEARS, AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE IF THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREED TO OPEN THE BAY TO THE PUBLIC BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
SO DANIELLA, SORRY IT WAS A LITTLE BIT GARBLED.
YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE JUST ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT TO OPEN UP THE BAY WALK FOR COMMUNITY USE, IS THAT CORRECT? SHE'S OKAY.
SHE'S ON CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF TO THAT? YOU, YOU RECEIVED A QUESTION, DANIELA? OH, YES.
UH, THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING I WOULD LOVE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE SEAN, PATRICK BRYANT, BELL ISLE.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU PROCEED, PLEASE.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, OR NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
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MAY PROCEED.I JUST WANNA MAKE A, A SIMILAR, UH, COMMENT REGARDING THE BAY WALK.
YOU KNOW, THIS GOES WAY, WAY BACK.
UM, AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OPENING THAT BAY WALK, WHICH IS COMPLETE.
IT WAS TIED TO A IMPROPER DRB, UM, ROUTE, UM, FINDING LIKE MANY YEARS AGO WHERE THEY, THE DRB AGREED TO PAY $190,000 FOR A FENCE.
I WAS AT THE COMMISSION MEETING YEARS AGO WHERE WE WERE SAYING THAT THE BAY WALK'S READY TO BE OPEN, OPEN IT UP.
UM, ANYWAY, UH, PREVIOUSLY THE CITY WOULD ALWAYS WORK WITH, UM, THESE PROPERTIES.
AND WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE THE CITY REQUESTING VARIANCES, THAT'S REALLY IN, IN MY OPINION, THE POWER WHERE THE CITY HAS TO NEGOTIATE OPENING THESE BAY WALKS.
SO, UM, THEY'RE HERE BEFORE US.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD PROJECT, UH, BUT THE BAY WALK IS READY TO OPEN.
I REALLY DO THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO USE THEIR NEGOTIATING SKILLS TO, TO ASK THESE DEVELOPERS AS PART OF GETTING SOMETHING FROM THE CITY TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD GET SOMETHING BACK, AND THAT SHOULD BE OPENING THE BAY WALK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
ANY, WAS THAT IT? ANYBODY ELSE? UH, OWNER, UH, ONE MORE.
HELLO, JONATHAN, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.
UH, SO MY, HEY, MY NAME IS JONATHAN LUNA.
UH, I PROVIDED CONSTRUCTIVE, UH, FEEDBACK TO THE ARCHITECT, TO THE, THE PLAN AND, UH, TO THE, TO THE BUILDING MANAGEMENT.
AND, UM, I SUPPORT THE RENOVATION PLANS AND AS LONG AS I, LIKE I SAID, PROVIDED THE INTERNAL UPGRADES THAT I'VE SUGGESTED ARE ADDRESSED.
UM, AND I JUST HEARING THE STUFF ABOUT THE BAY WALK, UM, UH, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION, HOWEVER, I DO OPPOSE OPENING THE NORTH BAY WALK BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH OF A HIGH PRESENCE OF HOMELESSNESS IN THAT AREA.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS WOULD LOVE TO WALK, UM, ALONG THE BAY WALK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JONATHAN.
I'M NOW GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
DID YOU WANNA BEGIN? YEAH, SURE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING SOUTHGATE.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, UM, PART OF OUR CITY AND OUR HISTORY.
AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROGRAM.
AIR GIVES, I'M SURE THE CITY, WHEN THEY LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, THEY WILL DEFINITELY TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.
UM, I GUESS ALL OF US WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE BAY WALK, BUT, UM, BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE SITUATION WITH THE BAY WALK OPENING, CAN YOU TELL ME THIS, UH, PROPOSED SIGNAGE WITH THE LIGHTING BEHIND IT, IS THE ONE, UH, CLOSEST TO, UM, WEST AVENUE? YES, CORRECT.
IT'LL, IT'LL BE LOCATED ON THE FRONT OF THE, OF THE CANOPY.
AND I THINK THAT SEPARATING, UM, THE DELIVERIES, UM, FROM THE GUEST AND, UM, RESIDENT ENTRANCES MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE, UM, ESPECIALLY FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT AND CONGESTION.
UM, TELL US ABOUT THE BAY WALK AND WHAT THE SITUATION IS THERE.
UM, AND I'M GLAD THIS CAME UP.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST AS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE BAY WALK AS, UM, I THINK ALL MIAMI BEACH RESIDENTS ARE ON THE, ON THE BAY SIDE ANYWAY.
UM, SO THE CONDITION THAT WE, UM, RECEIVED WHEN WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING WAS THAT THE BAY WALK IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED AT, AT THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER, AND I THINK ONE OF THE, UM, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, OR COMMENTERS MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A FORMER DRB ORDER THAT HAD SOME CONDITIONS IN IT FOR WHEN THE BAY WALK WOULD OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND SO THAT ORDER WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IT, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS FULLY MEMORIZED, BUT BASICALLY IT'S WHEN THE ADJACENT, UM, BAY WALK SEGMENTS OPENED UP, THEN OUR SEGMENT WOULD OPEN UP AS WELL.
UM, SO MY AND I HAVE BEEN IN, UH, CLOSE TOUCH WITH THE CITY ON THIS.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SEGMENT TO THE NORTH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GO TOUR THAT TODAY WITH THE CITY AND WITH
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THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH OF US.UM, AND SO BASICALLY WE, WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF OPENING UP THE BAY WALK TO THE, UM, TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE, UM, OUR EXPECTATION THOUGH IS THAT THE DRB ORDER, THE, THE PROVISIONS IN THAT ORDER WILL BE MET.
AND, UM, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO THEN, UM, ALL THOSE SEGMENTS WILL OPEN UP AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE ENTRANCE FROM THE SOUTH? THE ENTRANCE, THE, THE BAY WALK SEGMENT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE IS, UM, MORE DELAYED AND IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH, IS THERE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED? I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE SCOPE OF THE BAY WALK TO THE SOUTH.
I JUST KNOW THAT THE SEGMENT TO THE NORTH IS MOVING FASTER THAN THE SEGMENT TO THE SOUTH.
BUT I'LL GET AN UPDATE TODAY FROM THE CITY.
I, I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO NOW I'M, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN THE BAY WALK NOW TOO.
THE RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.
UM, I LIVE TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF YOU.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE OVER OVER WALK TO THE SOUTH WILL, YOU KNOW, IMPACT THAT.
UM, THE BUILDING I LIVE IN, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO I GUESS THE, THE STOPPAGE WOULD BE THE BUILDING IN BETWEEN.
UM, BUT I GUESS SO IS THERE HESITATION TO OPEN IT EVEN WHEN THE, THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH IS OPEN? YOU WANNA WAIT FOR EITHER SIDE TO BE OPEN? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO REVISIT IT.
I TOMORROW, OR THIS AFTERNOON'S GONNA BE THE FIRST TIME THAT, UM, WE'RE GETTING A TOUR OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO THE NORTH.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK BACK TO OUR LEADERSHIP.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AROUND IT.
AND SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK TO THE CITY AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.
UM, ALSO I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE THINK IT WILL OPEN TO THE SOUTH AND BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE SOUTH, UM, AS OUR RESIDENT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT OPENING IT AND HAVING A, A, UM, SEGMENT OF TRAIL THAT GOES NOWHERE BECAUSE THERE COULD BE A NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS.
UM, AND WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE EVERYBODY'S COMFORT AND SAFETY.
UM, SO WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF IT, IF WHEN IT DOES OPEN THAT IT'S ACTUALLY CONNECTING TO, UM, TO OTHER PARTS OF THE TRAIL.
WHERE DOES THIS BAY WALK ORIGINALLY BEGIN AND END? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
SO WE'RE THE OWNERS OF THE FLAMINGO AND IT IS OPEN UP ON THAT NORTH SECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE THOUGH, HOW FAR IT GOES.
I DON'T, IT'S NOT VERY LONG 'CAUSE I'VE WALKED IT AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A QUARTER OF A MILE THAT'S OPEN IN THE NORTH PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN IN THE SOUTH IT'S SORT OF SEGMENTS HERE AND THERE THAT AREN'T QUITE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER YET.
BUT AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, THE PROPERTY TO YOUR SOUTH AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR SOME AMOUNT OF RENOVATION THAT KEEP ANYONE FROM GOING THROUGH THE BACK OF THOSE PROP TO THE BAY WALK OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY USE THE SOUTH GATE BAY WALK EVEN THOUGH THAT'S COMPLETED BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENTER THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THROUGH WEST AVENUE TO GET TO YOUR BAY WALK.
UM, I, THERE ARE, I THINK, PUBLIC EASEMENTS ON THE STREETS TO THE NORTH OR, OR SOUTH.
SO I THINK THEY, THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY DOES HAVE ACCESS BACK THERE.
AND THEY, IF IF THE, IF OUR SEGMENT OF THE BAY WALK WASN'T LOCKED, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET BACK THERE.
UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE DAVID GOMEZ HERE FROM CIP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THE BAY WALK OR THE STATUS OF THE BAY WALK.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF BAY WALK? YEAH.
I THINK THAT SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION.
DAVID GOMEZ, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR CIP.
UH, QUICK STATUS ON THE BAY WALK.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY FOUR SEGMENTS THAT ARE PENDING CONSTRUCTION THAT THE CITY IS MANAGING.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS PART OF THE WEST AVENUE PROJECT AND WE'LL PROCEED IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
UH, THE PROJECT IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS ONE, UH, IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION UNDER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS ONE OF THE SEGMENTS THAT THE CITY IS COMPLETING A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT PROPERTY TO IRON OUT FINAL AGREEMENTS ON, ON HOW THAT LAYOUT WORKS.
UM, BETWEEN DESIGN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION, IT'LL BE ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE THAT SEGMENT IS OPEN.
UH, THE PED BRIDGE IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH SHOULD BE BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, UM, AND SHOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
UH, THE BRIDGE ITSELF DOESN'T IMPACT THE USE OF THE BAY WALKS.
AND THEN IS THERE, UM, I GUESS IN ORDINANCE OR JUST A PROCEDURE THAT WHEN A BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE BAY WALK BEHIND IT IS CLOSED? IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTIVITY.
UM, IF THERE'S CERTAIN ACTIVITY THAT WILL IMPACT THE USE OF THE BAY WALK AND FOR SAFETY REASONS THEY HAVE TO CLOSE IT, THEN I IMAGINE THAT TO BE THE CASE.
UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SEGMENTS THAT ARE NON-EXISTENT
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AT THE MOMENT.THERE ARE PIECES THAT, THAT JUST GET INTERRUPTED.
UH, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 MONTHS, THE ENTIRE BAY WALK SYSTEM WILL BE COMPLETE.
AND SO DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE SOUTH GATE TOWERS OPEN? MIGHT MAKE THEIR BAY WALK ACCESSIBLE? ALTHOUGH IT'S JUST FOR A SMALL PORTION OR? I THINK THE ADVANTAGE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS THAT THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS ON THROUGH 10TH STREET, WHICH WILL CONNECT TO THE SEGMENT TO THE NORTH.
UH, AND THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS OR, OR INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO IT IS A, A SEGMENT THAT COULD BE OPEN RIGHT NOW.
EXCEPT THAT WOULD NOT GO, UM, WOULD NOT BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DRB ORDER THAT BOTH PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH WOULD HAVE TO BE OPENED.
I BELIEVE THAT IN ORDER, I'M, I'M SORRY.
I BELIEVE THE DRB ORDER WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND THAT ONE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE LONGER BEFORE IT'S DONE.
SO THEN WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION? THE, THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING TO OPEN AS MUCH OF THE BAY WALK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT SOUTH GATES SHOULD OPEN UP THEIR GATES, ALTHOUGH IT'S JUST A SMALL PORTION.
MAKE IT AVAILABLE 'CAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC AMENITY.
BUT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF THE DRB ORDER FROM APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, THE BAY WALK BEHIND SOUTH GATE CANNOT OPEN UNTIL THE SOUTH PORTION IS OPEN AND THE NORTH PORTION IS OPEN PER THE DRB ORDER.
AND WE DON'T, UH, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT ORDER.
UM, OR CAN WE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE WERE REASONS WHY THE DRB ORDER WAS, UH, SPECIFIED THAT MANNER PROBABLY WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM ADMINISTRATION JUST FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE BEHIND, UM, THOSE FACILITIES.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A GOOD CASE IN THAT BEHIND SOUTH GATE THAT THE, THE BAY WALK HAS ACCESS THROUGH THOSE, UM, EASEMENTS ON THE SIDE NORTH AND SOUTH OF, OF, UH, SOUTH GATE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S, YES, THERE'S PUBLIC ACCESS.
I, I DON'T KNOW, ARE THEY EASEMENTS? I'M NOT SURE.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE STREET ENDS.
SO IT'D BE A WALK OF JUST THE AREA BEHIND, UM, SOUTHGATE, WHICH IS REALLY A WALK TO, TO NOWHERE, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S STILL, BUT IT IS PUBLIC PROP, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WATER FROM PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND SIT THERE AND ENJOY THE VIEW THAT SHOULD BE OPEN.
I, I MEAN I WAS ON THE DRB TWO YEARS AGO AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IS THE BUILDING THAT IS TO THE SOUTH? THAT'S SOUTH BAY CLUB.
AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BAY WALK THERE AT ALL.
IT ENDS EFFECTIVELY BEHIND SOUTHGATE YEAH.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE NORTH SOUTH AND ENDS.
IT'S ONLY BUILT RIGHT BEHIND SOUTHGATE RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BAY WALK BE ON THE NORTH END EITHER.
IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT'S
SO I GUESS IT'S A, A LEGAL QUESTION IF WE, UM, DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO REQUEST THAT THE BAY WALK BEHIND SOUTHGATE BE OPENED.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A PREVIOUS DRB ORDER IF IT CAN'T EVEN BE CHANGED? I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, YEAH, THE DRB CANNOT, U CANNOT UNILATERALLY MODIFY CONDITION OF A PREVIOUS ORDER.
UM, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE DRB WANTS TO INCORPORATE A CONDITION, UM, THE APPLICANT MUST VOLUNTARILY CONSENT TO IT.
WE CANNOT SAY, SAY THAT AGAIN FOR MY PUR MY PURPOSES.
WE CAN PASS AN ORDER IF TO CHANGE THE PREVIOUS ORDER.
SO BASICALLY IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED UNTIL THE DRB ORDER OF KEEPING OF OPENING THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH IS AVAILABLE TO BE OPENED.
UM, AS, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THERE WAS AN ORDER FROM THE DRB, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS FROM 2012, THAT SET FORTH THE CONDITIONS OF THE BAY WALK.
AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT OBLIGATED TO OPEN THE BAY WALK TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL THE CONNECTIONS TO THE SOUTH BAY CLUB IS COMPLETED.
UM, WHICH MEANS THAT THE SOUTH BAY CLUB MUST BE FULLY COMPLETED.
UM, AND YEAH, SO IF THE MAJORITY OF THE, SO IF THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WANTS TO INCORPORATE SUCH A CONDITION, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS TO VOLUNTARILY ACQUI TO THAT, OTHERWISE YOU CANNOT FORCE IT UPON THEM THROUGH, THROUGH AN ORDER.
AND SO TO CLARIFY, THAT WAS FROM 12 YEARS AGO, NOT TWO YEARS AGO.
SO IN THE 12 YEARS THE BAY WALK THERE HASN'T BEEN BUILT AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT OPEN.
SO I KIND OF SEE A COMPROMISE HERE.
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UM, IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS YET AND IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING.I LIVE ON BELL AISLE WHERE 31 VENETIAN WAY WAS FORCED TO OPEN A BAY WALK THAT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS TO ANYTHING.
SO IT'S BASICALLY A DEAD END, BUT IT'S USED, I UNDERSTAND THE HOMELESS SITUATION AND IT'S A LITTLE SKETCHIER OFF WEST AVENUE.
UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO MAKE IT TO, UH, PASS THIS VARIANCE IF YOU WERE WILLING TO OPEN THE BAY WALK WHEN THE PROPERTY OF THE NORTH OPENS SO THAT AT LEAST YOU HAVE TWO PROPERTIES AND NOT JUST ONE DEAD END PROPERTY.
THAT WILL BE THEIR WHOLE RESPONSIBILITY.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY 'CAUSE I WAS READY TO SAY NO WAY FOR A VARIANCE, EVEN THOUGH I LIKE YOUR PROJECT, BUT AT THIS POINT, I WOULD SAY WITHIN 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING OF THE NORTH SIDE OPENING, MAKE THIS HAVE TO OPEN AT LEAST THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TWO CONTIGUOUS NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND IT'S MORE, IT'S NOT SUCH A BIG PROBLEM AS JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NORTH SIDE IS OPENING IN 30 DAYS.
I SAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE NORTH SIDE BEING OPEN THAT THEY NEED TO OPEN.
WHEN IS THE NORTH SIDE SUPPOSED TO OPEN? THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETE WITH CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WE'RE TALKING A FEW MONTHS HERE.
AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN I'D START PUSHING IS SAYING IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS OPENING, THEY CAN'T JUST KEEP IT GATED UP AT THIS POINT.
OH, NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, SPEAKING ON, AS A RESIDENT OF SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN A BUILDING THAT'S ONLY GOT TWO SEGMENTS OF THE BAY WALK CONNECTED, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S USED, UM, WE USE IT A LOT AND IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT THAN EVEN WHAT I THINK SOUTHGATE IS CURRENTLY.
SO THAT PLUS THE NORTH PLUS THE DEAD ROAD GIVE WOULD GIVE, I THINK A, A GREAT PUBLIC BENEFIT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO HERE TODAY? YEAH.
THAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS, YEAH.
SO WHAT, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? YOU'RE, ARE YOU'RE ASKING EXACTLY LORI, MY, MY QUESTION WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE THE PRIOR ORDER MAYBE WAS THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO OPEN.
IT WASN'T A, THEY CAN'T OPEN IT.
IS THAT, I THINK THERE'S LIKE A DISTINGUISHING, UH, NO.
WELL, UH, NO, THE CITY, UM, WELL, THE DRB, LIKE, YOU CANNOT, YOU, YOU CANNOT FORCE THEM TO OPEN THE BAY WALK.
WE CANNOT, SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN DENY A VARIANCE.
IT'S A, IT'S A SECURE AND IT'S FIT.
I PERSONALLY, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS PROPER TO DO EITHER.
I, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO OPEN THE BAY WALK ONCE THE NORTH PROPERTY IS COMPLETED IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS? UM, WITH ACCESS FOR ANYBODY THAT IS NOT A RESIDENT FROM THAT STREET END? UM, I, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT BACK TO OUR LEADERSHIP.
I DO THINK THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING, I JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THERE WAS ANOTHER PROVISION IN THE DRB ORDER REGARDING A COST SHARE, UM, THAT THE CITY WOULD, UM, SHARE IN THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND IT, IT WAS SOMETHING IN THE RANGE OF $200,000.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN MET.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE, I'M SORRY, WAS THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE BAY WALK BEHIND SOUTH GATE? YES.
AND THE CITY HAS NOT PAID UP THEIR PORTION OF THE 200,000.
UM, AND THE OTHER PIECE IS, UM, WE'VE NOT NEGOTIATED AN EASEMENT YET WITH THE CITY.
AND, UM, I DID REQUEST AN EASEMENT.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE, BUT, SO I, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO THOSE OTHER CONDITIONS BEING MET AND A NEGOTIATION OF EASEMENT, UM, I, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO, TO CONSIDER THAT.
I, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TOO, 'CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH BAY BLOCK.
SO THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND THEN NORTH OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH, DOES THE BAY WALK STILL CONTINUE OR NO, IT'S STILL SEPARATE.
DIDN'T GET MONAD TERRACE NORTH OF, SO IT DOESN'T, NORTH OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH IS BAYVIEW TERRACE.
AND THE CITY'S NEGOTIATING WITH THEM NOW.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM NOW TO IRON OUT THE AGREEMENT THERE.
THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES NORTH THAT ARE, THERE'S NOTHING, DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO THIS IS WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG, EVERYBODY.
AS OPPOSED TO THE BEACH WALK, WHICH WAS THERE AND IT WAS CITY PROPERTY.
BUT, UH, IF WE CAN OPEN UP BEHIND SOUTHGATE AND IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO THE PROPERTY OF THE NORTH, TO THE NORTH, IT DOES PROVIDE SOMEWHAT OF A, OF A BEACH WALK, WHICH IS EVEN BIGGER THAN THE ONE BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY THAT IS RIGHTFULLY USEFUL, USEFUL AND USED.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF THE CONSTRUCTION'S DONE, AND WE CAN, AND WE CAN GET THERE ON THE, THE EASEMENTS, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO NOT, TO NOT HAVE THAT BENEFIT THE PUBLIC, BUT IF IT, SO YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE EASEMENT APPROVAL.
WHO, WHAT DEPARTMENT IS, HAS THE EASEMENT, UH, APPROVAL THAT YOU'VE APPLIED FOR? DO YOU KNOW? I THINK
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WE WOULD JUST NEED, UH, WE JUST NEED TO SEE THE TEMPLATE THAT, OF THE EASEMENT THAT THE CITY IS USING FOR THE BAY WALK.AND THEN JUST TO BEGIN THAT CONVERSATION, UM, I IMAGINE IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS ALL THESE, THESE SEGMENTS.
FARIA, IS THAT LEGAL THAT HAS THAT EASEMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS CAN GET A COPY OF THE EASEMENT? YES, WE CAN.
AND, AND I THINK THE CITY CAN COME FORWARD WITH THEIR REQUIREMENT OF THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE BAY WALK OF THE 200,000.
AND POSSIBLY ALL OF THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE TWO MONTHS OR END OF THE YEAR WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WILL OPEN.
SO CAN WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT? UM, ROGELIO, I, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BOTH ROGELIO AND, AND LEGAL.
UM, IF, CAN WE APPROVE THIS WAIVER, UM, WITH THE REQUEST THAT THIS BAY WALK BE OPENED, UM, WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS OPENED, UM, WITH THE, WITH IT AND WITH THEIR CONSENT AND REVIEW OF THE EASEMENT FROM THE CITY AND THE CITY MAKING THE 200,000 CONTRIBUTION? UM, AS LONG AS IT IS CONDITIONED ON, UH, VOLUNTARY CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IT, IT WOULD BE PER, IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE.
SO HOW DO I WORD THIS IF I, SO THE REST OF THE BOARD HAVE TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, THOUGH WE DIDN'T SPEAK ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT.
YEAH, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS TOO.
UM, SO WHO WAS OPPOSED TO THE NEON? WAS IT, WE HEARD COMMENTS FROM BOTH THE WNA BOARD MEMBERS AND, UM, AND ONE RESIDENT IN PARTICULAR.
IT, IT WASN'T A VERY STRONG OPPOSITION.
THE SI I WAS IN THE SIGN BUSINESS.
AND, UM, THAT'S NOT NEAR, THAT'S NOT FACING ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SHOPS AT WEST AVENUE.
BY THE WAY, I THINK I LOVE THE, I LOVE THE, UH, THE NOD TO THE MID-CENTURY AND THE SIGN'S BEAUTIFUL AND NEON WOULD BE AMAZING.
BUT THAT'S MY ONE QUE MY OTHER QUESTION WAS THE, THE WALL IN THE BACK.
THEY WON'T LET US DO IT IN CONDOS.
UM, ARE YOU GUY, DO YOU KNOW THAT CODE WILL ALLOW THAT WITH HURRICANE STUFF TO ALLOW A WALL TO DO THAT? YES.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, UM, AS WELL AS THE EGRESS, WHICH WE ARE COMPLYING WITH.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S NOT A, A, A VERY LONG COMPONENT.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT IN A RESIDENTIAL CONDO AS LONG AS WE CONDO.
AS LONG AS WE MEET THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WIND LOAD.
AND IF THEY SAY THAT IT DOESN'T, 'CAUSE THEY SOMETIMES CHANGE THEIR MINDS WHEN YOU'RE FAR INTO IT.
I MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU DO INSTEAD? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WE, WE WOULD PROBABLY, UH, WE STILL WANT TO HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION TO THE POOL, WE PROBABLY WOULD LOOK AT A NUMBER OF PAIR OF DOORS THEN.
I, I WISH THE NEON THING, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S OPPOSED TO IT, BUT THE NEON THING WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL AND NOT SIGN.
UM, AND IT'S KIND OF A SHAME TO NOT HAVE IT.
BUT THE SIGN, THE DESIGN OF THE SIGN'S REALLY NICE.
ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE SIGN.
I AGREE I LIKE THE, THE ANA AS WELL, BUT, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE STILL GOING WITH THE BLUE LIGHT? OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH THE EXAMPLE WITH THE BACKLIT.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT ABOUT THE LIGHT POLLUTION CONSIDERING IT'S FACING FORWARD AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE.
SO I TOO WOULD PREFER IT TO BE NEON.
AND, AND I'M HAPPY FOR US TO BE A BAD GUY.
I DON'T
AND TODAY IT'S NOT IN YOUR PACKAGE BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT WE WERE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN THE SIGNAGE.
WE AGREE WE NEED THE SIGN OUT FRONT.
AND, UH, BUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH SOME OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WAS THIS INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL, THAT LED SYSTEM.
I WE'RE HERE TODAY ASKING FOR THE NEON.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE INITIAL REQUEST.
I ALSO THINK TOO, THAT THE NEON IS MORE PERIOD APPROPRIATE TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR.
AND IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A BETTER ARCHITECTURAL GESTURE FOR SURE.
UM, AND I, I LIKE, I LIKE THE RENOVATIONS.
YOU DIDN'T REALLY MENTION IT TOO MUCH, BUT I DO REALLY LIKE THE COLORFUL SORT OF MURAL OR BACKDROP OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, UM, RIGHT AT THE DROP OFF.
UM, YEAH, NO, I'M, I'M, AND THAT, THAT'LL BE ON THE INTERIOR.
IT'S WHY WE DIDN'T MENTION IT TODAY.
YEAH, NO, I, I MEAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA HAPPEN.
AND THEN I SEE THAT YOU LINE THE UNDERSIDE OF THE PORK CHE.
IS THAT WITH A WOOD OR IT'S TED OR IT'S, IT'S NOT WOOD.
IT'S AN APPROPRIATE MATERIAL THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SALT WEATHER, CLIMATE AND EVERYTHING.
BUT THE IDEA THERE, IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE WARM AND, AND A WELCOMING, SO, CORRECT.
NO, I THINK IT'S, I ALSO WANNA SAY TOO THAT I APPRECIATE THAT
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YOU'VE MAINTAINED THE HISTORIC CHARACTER, THAT I LOVE SEEING BUILDINGS AND GESTURES LIKE THIS AND, AND IT'S SO, IT'S SO MUCH MORE COMMON FOR US TO SEE THINGS RIPPED DOWN AND REDONE.AND I KNOW THAT, THAT RESIDENTS APPRECIATE THAT TOO.
AND NOT JUST YOUR RESIDENTS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RENOVATING AND UPDATING RATHER THAN RIPPING OUT.
I WALK BY THIS BUILDING EVERY DAY AND I'M, I MEAN, JUST THE LITTLE TOUCHES YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SINCE YOU PURCHASED IT WITH THE LANDSCAPING SO FAR HAVE BEEN REALLY NICE.
AND I, I ECHO THAT IT'S, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL.
UM, THE, I KNOW THE SHRUBS ARE OVERGROWN AND IT'S TIRED AND STUFF, BUT I THINK THAT THE BORDER BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE PARKING, 'CAUSE IT'S BASICALLY JUST A PARKING LOT OUT THERE.
SO IS IT GONNA BE, HOW HIGH ARE THE PROPOSED SHRUBS GONNA BE? ARE THEY GONNA BLOCK THE CARS? AT LEAST? AT LEAST? YEAH.
I MEAN THERE, THERE'S EXISTING SHRUBS IN THAT AREA TODAY.
WHAT ARE THEY THAT, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA PUT THERE? WELL, WE'LL MAINTAIN THE BULK OF WHAT'S THERE.
THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF AREAS, ESPECIALLY AROUND KIND OF THE MAIN ENTRY DRIVERS AREAS.
WE JUST WANNA ADD MORE, SPRUCE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA RIP OUT ALL THAT.
I JUST, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST POINT, THAT THE INTENT IS JUST TO NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT FULLY VISIBLE FROM THE SIDEWALK.
WE, WE LIKE THE, THE, THE GREEN SCREEN, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE STREET.
THE LANDSCAPING CHANGES ARE ALL HAPPENING IN THE AREA OF THE FOUNTAIN.
SO IT, IT'S BACK, BACK FROM THE ROAD IN THAT, IN THAT SMALL LITTLE ENTRY SIGN AREA THAT'S JUST GOT A BUNCH OF ROCKS GETTING RID OF THAT WALL, THAT HALF WALL OF THE FOUNTAIN AND THAT WALL MOVING THAT.
UM, I THINK ALSO SO TOO, MAYBE THIS WAS WHAT THE CRITICISM FROM THE NEON WAS IN THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF YOUR PRESENTATION, THERE'S A GLOW AND I THINK THAT WAS MORE FOR OUR PURPOSES TO SEE WHAT WE WERE GETTING AS OPPOSED TO THE REALITY.
I KNOW THAT NEON DOESN'T REALLY SPREAD LIKE THAT.
SO MAYBE THAT WAS THE GENERATION OF THE CONCERN.
AND, AND WE NOTICE WITH THAT RENDERING, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE OTHER LIGHT THAT'S IN THE YEAH.
IN THE AREA DARK, LIKE THE UPLIGHTS ON THE LANDSCAPING.
SO IT'S, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS GLOWY AS IT LOOKS TO BE IN THAT RENDERING.
THERE'S LOT OF LIGHTS IN THE PARKING LOT, SO, RIGHT.
IT'S SO, UM, THERE, SO I ALSO THINK TOO, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE, UM, DID, DID WE FIGURE OUT WORDING FOR THE, THE BAY WALK? I ALSO THINK TOO, THAT EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF BAY WALK ACCESSIBILITY IS BETTER THAN NONE.
I HAVE SOME MORE, UH, UH OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO CONTRIBUTE OR WE SHOULD START WITH THAT.
START WITH THE, UM, ARE YOU ASKING ME ABOUT THE ORDER? YEAH.
HOW, WHAT? YEAH, WELL, UM, SO, SO IF THE APPLICANT ACQUIESCES, UH, TO THIS, UM, YOU MAY MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTARILY PROFFERED TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF THE BAY WALK AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO ATTEMPT TO SECURE AN EARLIER OPENING DATE FOR THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE BAY WALK.
THAT'S WHAT AN ORDER COULD SAY.
SO CAN, CAN IT BE CONNECTED TO, WELL, I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPENING, OPENING BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
I MEAN, I, I WANNA GET A DATE CERTAIN OR, OR SOME SORT OF, I WOULD, I HAVE, LISTEN, I HAVE AN OPTION.
IF YOU'LL I WAS GONNA SAY IF THEY VOLUNTARILY AGREE IN AN OPEN FORUM THAT THEY WOULD OPEN THE BAY WALK WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OPENS THEIR BAY WALK AND THE CITY COMES UP WITH THE $200,000.
AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE, UH, EASEMENT, EASEMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, THAT'S, THAT I WOULD, I WOULD APPROVE THE VARIANCES BASED ON YOUR VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT TO DO THAT WITH THOSE CONDITIONS BEING MET.
I, I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE OTHER TERMS IN THE FORMER DRB ORDER, BUT IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO REFERENCE THAT AND, AND JUST SWITCH THE PROPERTY TO THE, FROM THE SOUTH TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS THAT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT IS WE WOULD OPEN IT WHEN THE PROPERTY, THE BAY WALK ON THE PROPERTY THE SOUTH OPENED.
AND NOW WE'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THE NORTH SEGMENT IS HAPPENING FASTER, WE WOULD OPEN IT THEN.
WELL, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT HAS CHANGED IN 12 YEARS AND YES.
LISTEN, THERE'S A FRUSTRATION.
CLEARLY THE PREVIOUS OWNER, THERE WAS FRUSTRATION WITH THE CITY NOT OPENING IT.
AND, AND, BUT I HEAR YOUR SIDE TOO, BUT I, THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN.
SO I THINK WE JUST WANT THE BAY LOCKS OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THERE'S A, A ONE NEXT TO YOU OPEN THAT, THAT'S THE IMPETUS TO DO IT.
DAVID, HOW, HOW REALISTIC IS THE OPENING OF THE NORTH PROPERTY BY THE END OF THE YEAR? THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THEY CAN, IT'S UNDERWAY NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT AS WE
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SPEAK.AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE DONE AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO GET THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT.
I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE WITH THAT PROPERTY ALREADY DONE.
SO THERE IS NO HICCUP ONCE THEY FINISH CONSTRUCTION END OF THE YEAR FOR THEM TO NOT OPEN THEIR BAY WALK BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR COME JANUARY, LET'S SAY? CORRECT.
SO THAT, AND THEN I SHOULD SAY TOO, DOES THERE NEED TO BE A MEMBER, SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD MOVE THIS ALONG OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD HANDLE TO ENSURE THAT THAT THINGS ARE OPEN AND, AND THEY, WE ARE MANAGING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT SEGMENT.
IT'S FROM 10 12TH 10TH STREET TO 12TH STREET.
UM, SO WE'RE KIND OF OVERSEEING THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, WE'RE ALSO MANAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WITH THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING.
SO IF THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED NEEDED AN UPDATE, IT WOULD BE YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT THEY HAD CALL, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO MY DEPARTMENT.
AND WHAT WAS THAT DEPARTMENT AGAIN? CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, UH, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UM, A MOTION, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, UM, VARIANCE FOR THE, UM, NOT THE LED, BUT THE, UM, NEON SIGN CURSIVE WAS THE THING, YOU KNOW, NOBODY READS CUR, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS DON'T READ OR WRITE CURSIVE ANYMORE, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR TENANTS.
I WRITE CURSIVE AND I AGREE WITH CURSIVE.
SO, UH, APPROVE THE, THE VARIANCE FOR THE NEON SIGN, UM, AND TO, UH, INCLUDE WITH THE CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPROVAL TO OPEN THE BAY WALK WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OPENS, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO OPEN END OF THE YEAR.
AND WHEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE, UH, APPROVE THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY AND RECEIVE FROM THE CITY THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE BAY WALK CONSTRUCTION OF 200,000 AND ANY OTHER, JUST IN CASE ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE IN THAT DRB ORDER FROM 2012 CONCERNING THE BAY WALK OPENING.
IS THAT OKAY? FARHA
I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST, UM, INCORPORATING A SPECIFIC MONETARY AMOUNT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDING.
UM, AND IT MAY, WASN'T THE 200,000 PART OF THE, IT ALSO MAY CHANGE, UM, DEPENDING ON, I THOUGHT THE 200,000 WAS PART OF THE 2012 DRB ORDER.
UH, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS IN 2012.
UM, THE, THE COST MAY CHANGE, BUT IT, IT, IT'S, IT, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE LIKE A PRECAUTION.
I THINK IT JUST HAVE THE GENERAL REIMBURSEMENT OF THE COST OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT WAS TO, YOU KNOW.
WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE COST SHARING THAT WILL END UP.
SO WE HAVE A SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO READ THIS REAL QUICK JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, OUTTA CONDITION, UM, WITH THE CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO OPEN THE BAY WALK WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OPENS AND WHEN THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT IS MADE AND WHEN EASEMENTS ARE ISSUED, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN PRIOR ORDERS ARE, ARE COMPLIED WITH.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. ALI.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES, I'LL SECOND.
AND THEN WE NEED A SEPARATE, UH, MOTION FOR THE DESIGN.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF THIS MOTION.
UH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN, UM, WITH THE NEON, IF YOU AS A RESIDENT AS WELL.
SECOND, DID YOU, DID YOU WANNA INCLUDE A CONDITION SPECIFIC TO THE NEON, UM, THAT WAS BEING DESCRIBED OR? I THINK WE'RE ALL FINE AS A BOARD WITH THE NEON.
UM, SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU PREFER, IF YOU TAKE THE NEON AWAY, IT'S VERY, IT HAS A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT CHARACTER.
SO MAYBE IT SHOULD BE, ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S PREFERENCE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THE NEON.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
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YES.SO SHOULD WE GO BACK NOW THAT WE'VE DONE ALL THE VARIANCES YES.
TO, I GUESS, DID WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
[2. DRB24-1040, 1500 BAY ROAD.]
REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE? YES.WE NEVER, WE DID NOT, UH, VOTE ON THAT EARLIER.
UM, SO THIS WAS FOR DRB 24, 10 40 1500 BAY ROAD.
ACTUALLY, IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME APPLICANT.
UM, THEY'RE JUST REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 MEETING.
UM, THIS IS REGARDING THE FLAMINGO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THAT GOOD? UM, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CON TO CONTINUANCE.
SO THAT ITEM WILL BE HEARD ON NOVEMBER 5TH.
OKAY, SO THEN SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO, UH,
[3. DRB23-0978, 630 ALTON ROAD.]
DRB 23 0 9 78 6 30 ALTON ROAD? YES.SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING MODIFICATIONS TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A, OF TWO ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, INCLUDING ONE OR MORE WAIVERS TO REQUEST TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SALES CENTER ON THE SITE.
UM, THIS, UM, SIX 30 ALTON ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS 600 ALTON ROAD.
UH, FOR BACKGROUND, BACK IN, UH, 2018, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, CREATING THE ALTON ROAD GATEWAY AREA REDEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THE CD TWO DISTRICT, UM, THAT AUTHORIZED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE TOWER, UH, ON THE ADJACENT, UH, IT'S TECHNICALLY PART OF THE SAME LOT, BUT SOUTH OF SIXTH STREET, UM, AUTHORIZED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, OF THE PARK, UM, OF THE THREE ACRE PARK AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL THAT THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, UM, ON MAY, 2019, UH, AND SUBSEQUENTLY ON JUNE, 2019, THE DRB REVIEWED AND APPROVED, UH, THE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED RETAIL STRUCTURE, UM, AT THE CORNER OF SIXTH STREET AT FORMER SIXTH STREET RIGHT OF WAY IN ALTON ROAD.
UM, AND SO AT THAT TIME, UH, THE DRB APPROVED A TWO STORY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.
SO NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY THAT, UH, TO A ONE STORY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE.
UM, IT'LL BE APPROXIMATELY 11,600 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, PARKING SPACES, UM, THAT MOST OF THE PARKING WILL BE LOCATED IN THE ADJACENT BUILDING AT, UH, AT 500 ALTON ROAD.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A PARKING LOT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT I'LL DESCRIBE IN A MOMENT.
UM, THE, UH, THE, SO THE, THE STRUCTURE FEATURES A, UH, IT'S IN CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
UH, THE SITE FEATURES A PLAZA ALONG ALTON ROAD WITH PATHWAYS THAT MEANDER THROUGH LANDSCAPING TO A CENTRAL BREEZEWAY THAT SEPARATES TWO PAVILIONS ALLOWING VISITORS TO ACCESS THE PLAZA, UH, WHICH OVERLOOKS CANOPY PARK.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL VALLI EAVES THAT, UH, ENCIRCLE BOTH OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, ACCENTING THE BREEZEWAYS.
IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, VERY NICE STRUCTURE AND STAFF IS HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO DESIGN, UM, AS IT, IT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE THE INTEGRATION TO THE ADJACENT CANOPY PARK.
UM, STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT TO BUILD A, UH, A SUBURBAN STYLE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE STRUCTURE, UM, WITH 90 DEGREE PARKING SPACES.
UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THERE IS AMPLE PARKING IN THE ADJACENT STRUCTURE ON, UH, ON 500 ALTON ROAD, AND AS WELL AS THERE'S PUBLIC PARKING IN THE, IN THE VICINITY, UM, THAT CAN MORE THAN, UH, UM, UH, ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR THIS SITE.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF IS ENCOURAGING ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS SMALL SCALE RETAIL THAT SHOULD BE SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY LIKELY WILL BE WALKING AND BICYCLING TO THIS COMMUNITY.
SO THE INCLUSION OF A, OF A PARKING LOT LIMITS THE INTEGRATION OF THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE TO THE ADJACENT PARK, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT, THAT INTEGRATION TAKE PLACE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED WITHOUT THAT PARKING LOT.
IN THE EVENT THAT THE DRB WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH 90 DEGREES BASIS STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT SOME DETAILS OF THAT PARKING BE REFINED, UH, INCLUDING, UH, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED STANDARD WHEEL STOPS WITH BOLLARDS OR CONTINUOUS CURBS WITH LANDSCAPING, UH, FOR THE TWO FOOT VEHICLE OVERHANG.
ALSO, THE DEMARCATION OF PARKING SPACES SHOULD CONSIST OF, OF CHANGES IN THE COLOR OF PAVERS AND NOT SURFACE PAINT.
UM, AND SO WHILE THESE CHANGES ARE NOT IDEAL, THEY WOULD IMPROVE THE, THE, THE LOOK OF THE PARKING AREA.
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MORE LIKE A PLAZA AS OPPOSED TO A SURFACE PARKING LOT.UM, UM, AND, AND ENHANCE THE, THE SPACE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CLOSED OFF IN THE FUTURE AND USED AS A, AS A PLAZA FOR SOME OTHER USES IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THE PARKING IS NOT NEEDED.
UM, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE, UH, THAT THE PLANS BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER, UM, WHICH ADDRESSED THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA.
GRAHAM, OH, FOR THE RECORD, GRAHAM PENN BURKE, DALE FERNANDEZ, LARKIN TAP TWO, SETH BISKIN BOULEVARD.
IS THERE A PHILIP JEFFRIES IN THE ROOM? WE FOUND MR. JEFFRIES, UH, NOTEBOOK, NO, SORRY.
SOME IMPORTANT, IT LOOKS LIKE AN ARCHITECT'S HANDWRITING.
JOINED TO MY LEFT IS MR. RAY FORT.
UM, AS ROGELIO NOTED, THE ONLY POINT OF DIFFERENCE WE HAVE WITH STAFF IS THE PARKING LOT.
SO WHAT WE'VE HANDED OUT TO YOU, WHAT MS. BALTER HANDED OUT TO YOU WAS A, A DRAFT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ALTERNATIVE PARKING SCENARIO THAT, THAT LIO LAID OUT.
THE ALTERNATIVE TO DELETING IT, WE THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO RETAIN SOME PARKING HERE WHERE WE'RE RETAINING 11 SPACES, INCLUDING TWO ACCESSIBLE SPACES, SO AS OPPOSED TO 39 THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
SO IT'S A VERY MINOR USE OF THE PARKING, EXCUSE ME.
AND WE THINK OVERALL, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS IN COMPARISON TO 2019 PLAN, THIS IS A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR INTERACTION WITH THIS DESIGN WITH THE PARK.
IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF VEHICULAR USE AREA SIGNIFICANTLY, THE OVERALL BUILDINGS INTEGRATE AND, AND FLOW INTO THE PARK IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.
WE'VE, AND, AND RAY WILL SHOW YOU, WE PROTECTED, UH, A A LOT OF THE SEATING INTERNALIZED NOW TO THE PROJECT, WHICH IS A, A GREAT IMPROVEMENT.
SO LET ME TAKE YOU THROUGH MY LITTLE INTRO AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET RAY TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS.
SO AS ROGELIO NOTED, THIS IS THIS PIECE, THIS PARCEL IS A PIECE OF THE OVERALL 500 ALTON PROJECT, RIGHT? THE 500 ALTON PROJECTS INCLUDES THE, THE FIVE PARK BUILDING ON THE SOUTH.
IT INCLUDES THE THREE ACRES OF CAN PARK THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE CITY, UH, THE FLOR, THE NEW FLORIDIAN PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WHEN, WHEN DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE WALKS AND THE BRIDGE, THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IMPLEMENTING THE FINAL ELEMENTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL OF COURSE INCLUDED THE DEDICATION AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE PARK AS WELL.
SO THIS AGAIN, IS ALWAYS, THIS COMMERCIAL COMPONENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE PLAN.
SO THIS IS THE 2 20 19 APPROVAL.
UH, AS LIO NOTED, IT'S TWO STORIES TALL.
UH, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO NOTE AND, AND WE'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT MORE OF THE DETAILS, THERE'S TWO IMPORTANT ELEMENTS I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE WAS A, THIS INCORPORATED A DRIVEWAY THAT WENT FROM SIX ALL THE WAY TO ALTON.
SO THERE WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND, AND ENDING ON ALTON, YOU'LL NOTE FROM, YOU'LL SEE THE NEW PLAN THAT'S GONE.
THE OTHER ELEMENT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE THAT KIND OF LITTLE SMALLER EGG SHAPED BUILDING THAT WAS BICYCLE PARKING AND ALSO THE TRASH ROOM.
SO THE TRASH ROOM WAS BASICALLY LOCATED AGAINST THE PARK.
SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU SEE THE NEW PLAN, IT'S A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT.
SO YOU'VE LOST, IN THE NEW DESIGN, YOU'VE LOSE ALL OF THAT VEHICULAR ACTIVITY.
SO WE THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THE, THE NEW PARKING LOT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OF THE OLD ONE.
I'LL SHOW, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE WAY THE DRIVE WORKS.
SO REMOVING THAT, THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY THE ALTON DRIVEWAY, YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT PEDESTRIANIZATION THAT'S IMPROVED ALONG THERE AND YOU HAVE NONE OF THAT TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REDUCES THE OVERALL HEIGHT.
WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING THAT FLOOR AREA AND THAT WAS IN TWO STORIES AND WE'RE SEPARATING IT INTO TWO BUILDINGS.
IT REMOVES THAT ALTON ROAD DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
WE BELIEVE IT AGAIN, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVES THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS PROPERTY, WITH THE PARK.
AND, UH, AS ROGELIO NOTED, UH, REALLY RETAINS A FIRST CLASS DESIGN THAT ARCHITECTONIC THAT CAME UP FOR THIS, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, IMPROVEMENT IN THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL.
CAN WE UNZOOM THIS SOMEHOW? HUH? ARE YOU GUYS CONTROLLING THIS OR AM I CONTROLLING? I THINK YOU'RE CONTROLLING.
I KNOW, BUT I CAN'T SEE ANY, OH, THERE, IT'S OKAY.
THAT MUST BE HOW THE SLIDE IS SET UP.
WELL, NOW, THERE, THERE WAS, IT LOOKED FINE THIS MORNING, AND IF THIS IS ALL OF THEM WE'RE IN DEEP TROUBLE.
UH, CAN YOU GUYS JUST REDUCE IT
WE'RE JUST GONNA NOT, WELL, WE WON'T
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DO IT.WE DO THE PDF INSTEAD OF PRESENTATION.
YEAH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE PAINTED TO, TO MOVE THEM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ALL RIGHT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE A, A ZOOMER.
YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT ANOTHER, THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS THAT YOU SUBMITTED AND THERE IS A PICTURE, A DRAWING OF WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
THE PLANS ARE ON THE BACK OF THIS TOO, BUT I THINK IT'S FINE.
I THINK WE CAN JUST, WE'LL NAVIGATE LIKE THIS.
SO RAY, I'LL LET, OH, ONE HERE.
I'LL SIT HERE AND I'LL JUST MOVE IT FOR YOU SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN AND WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE GREEN ROOF, AND THAT OVAL SHAPE IS ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SIXTH STREET, WHICH IN THIS PARTICULAR ORIENTATION, EAST IS UP ON THE PAGE, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.
UM, THE REASON THE BUILDING WAS SHAPED THAT WAY WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DRIVEWAY COMING FROM SIXTH STREET OUT TO ALTON ROAD WITH PARALLEL PARKING, AND IT ACTUALLY SEPARATED THE RETAIL BUILDING FROM THE PARK SIGNIFICANTLY CREATING THAT TRAFFIC AND FLOW THROUGH AND POTENTIALLY EVEN A VALID DROP OFF THAT MAY HAVE EVEN OCCURRED IN THERE.
SO THE NEW PLANS, WE, UM, YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
THIS IS THE, SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE IS THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOCATED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE NEW PROPOSED PROJECT IS THE SAME AS PREV AS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, EXCEPT THAT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAS A, WAS A TWO STORY BUILDING, SO STACKED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.
AND THE EXPECTATION WAS WE WANTED TO GET PEOPLE UP TO THAT SECOND FLOOR, WHICH OBVIOUSLY CREATES A LOT OF COMPLICATION FOR RETAIL.
WE KNOW THAT REITS ON SECOND FLOOR ALWAYS HAS HAD SOME DIFFICULTY, UH, FUNCTIONING IN, IN MIAMI IN GENERAL.
SO, UH, AND THIS WAS ABOUT A 40 FOOT TALL STRUCTURE, 45 IF YOU INCLUDE THE BFE, BUT IT WAS RELATIVELY TALL BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT 20 FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR FOR EACH RETAIL LEVEL.
SO, ON TOP OF THE IDEA THAT WE HAD THIS DRIVEWAY HAPPENING THERE, WE HAD A VERY LARGE STAIRCASE, WHICH YOU CAN CALL A FEATURE STAIRCASE, VERY HIGH FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHTS.
AND, UM, WE HAD TO GET PEOPLE UP TO THAT SECOND FLOOR.
SO, UH, THESE ARE THE OLD VIEWS FROM THE 2019.
SO NOW LOOK, NOW THIS ONE'S SMALL.
IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY DECIDING TO, UH, MESS WITH MY BRAIN.
UH, HERE DO, UH, DO ONE OF THESE, WE'LL GO AT THAT, THEN WE'LL DO ONE GO SCROLL OVER A BIT AND MAYBE THAT'LL ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO.
SO THE NEW, UH, THIS IS AN UPDATED COLORED SITE PLAN AND WE'RE NOW DECOUPLING THE STACKED FLOOR PLATES AND PUTTING THE BUILDING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING A COURTYARD SPACE IN BETWEEN THE TWO.
WE'RE ALSO LETTING THE SHAPES THESE BUILDINGS BE QUITE ORGANIC, MUCH LIKE THE GREEN SPACES THAT YOU SEE IN CANOPY PARK.
THEY'RE ALMOST REACTING TO THOSE SHAPES THAT ARE OCCURRING AROUND IT.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO THE, THE SHAPES OF THE BUILDING ARE VERY AIC, LIKE VERY ORGANIC, REACTING TO THE SHAPES WITHIN THE PARK.
WE DO HAVE THOSE 11 PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE OFF STRICT STREET, WHICH ARE OFF OF THAT ROUNDABOUT AND PERPENDICULAR.
AND THEY TAKE UP MUCH LESS SPACE THAN HAD IT BEEN PARALLEL.
THE PARALLEL SPACES STILL NEED THE TWO.
THEY STILL NEED A WIDE DRIVE AISLE.
THEY, YOU ONLY GET ONE SPACE FOR EVERY TWO PARKING SPACES HAD IT BEEN PERPENDICULAR.
AND WE HAD THE DRIVE AISLE THAT HAD THAT, THAT EXITED ONTO ALTON ROAD BY REMOVING THAT DRIVE AISLE ALTOGETHER AND HAVING A BUILDING AT ITS PLACE, OR ABLE TO ACTUALLY LET THE RETAIL BUILDINGS CONNECT TO CANOPY PARK AND HAVE ENTRANCES OFF OF THE NORTH, UM, EAST NORTHWEST CORNER AND CREATE, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY NICE DINING AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA IN BETWEEN THE TWO PAVILIONS.
UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT OUR LOADING AREA, THE DESIGNATED LOADING AREA, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, I'M GONNA TRY TO MOVE THIS A BIT, WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UM, ARE THE TWO SPACES OFF OF SIXTH.
SO THE BUILDINGS ARE ORIENTED, ESPECIALLY THE ONE ON THE SOUTH, UH, WITH THE BACK OF HOUSE AND TRASH ROOMS TOWARDS THAT SIDE.
AND THAT'S THE MAIN TRASH ROOM.
SO ANYTHING THAT, THAT OCCURS FROM THE TRASH IN THE OTHER BUILDING GETS HAULED OUT AND BROUGHT TO THAT TRASH ROOM AS THE HOLDING AREA.
UM, WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED, UH, AN UPDATED BUFFER ALONG ALTON ROAD WITH THIS PLAZA LIKE CONDITION WITH PATHWAYS THROUGH LANDSCAPE THAT THEN BRING YOU UP TO THE BFE AND I CAN SHOW YOU THAT IN SECTION.
I'M RIGHT OUT OF TIME, AREN'T I? OKAY, THAT'S HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU'D LOVE? YOU? YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO 5, 2, 2 TO FIVE MINUTES, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I CAN GET, I CAN GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
UM, WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO GO? SO JUST THE SECTION, UH, THE BUILDING HAS NOW SIGNIFICANTLY BEEN REDUCED.
UH, THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE NOT THE SAME HEIGHT, BUT THEY DO SHARE A ROOF LINE.
ONE BUILDING IS 16 FEET AND THE OTHER IS 19 FEET.
THERE'S A CANOPY THAT ACTUALLY CHANGES IN HEIGHT.
IT'S ALMOST AIC IN IT IN SECTION AS WELL WHERE, UM, WE'LL GET TO THOSE VIEWS, BUT YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN.
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LET'S KEEP GOING.WE WANTED TO KEEP THIS QUITE SIMPLE IN TERMS OF, OF ITS MATERIALS.
CLEAR GLASS, YOU KNOW, THAT CLEAR GLASS IS ESSENTIAL TO HAVING, UH, GOOD RETAIL AND GOOD FUNCTIONING.
F AND B YOU WANT TO SEE INTO THESE SPACES.
WE'RE CHOOSING A NEUTRAL, UH, MULIAN COLOR THAT'S A LIGHT GRAY MULIAN COLOR.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING FOR THE PEDESTALS TO MITIGATE THE HEIGHT OF THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION TO USE IN LYTIC STONE.
AND THEN, UH, A WOOD CLADDING IN AREAS THAT WE WANT TO CONCEAL, LIKE THE BACK OF HOUSE AREAS, WHICH ALSO PROVIDES A BACKDROP FOR SIGNAGE TO BE PLACED ON THE BUILDING.
THESE ARE JUST THE ELEVATIONS.
SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL NOTICE HERE IS THE CURVATURE OF THE EYEBROW THAT OCCURS AROUND THE RETAIL.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ALS, THIS IS IN COMBINATION CREATING PROTECTION, UH, FOR OUTDOOR SEATING, BUT ALSO, UH, ALMOST A COVERED COURTYARD IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
SO THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE PARK SIDE, UH, LOOKING ESSENTIALLY, UH, TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST, WE'RE BASICALLY STANDING CLOSE TO SIXTH STREET FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT.
THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT IS SLIGHTLY TALLER, AND THE THE CANOPY, THE EYEBROW IS, IS CURVING UPWARDS TOWARDS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THE UPPER LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE AND FOLLOWS IT DOWN TOWARDS THE 16 FOOT SIDE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
BUT WHAT WE'VE CREATED IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS IS A COURTYARD SPACE.
THE PARKING IS INTENDED TO FEEL VERY PLAZA LIKE.
WE DON'T WANT THIS TO FEEL LIKE A PARKING LOT THAT'S SET WITHIN THE PARK.
UM, WE PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO REMOVING THE DRIVE AISLE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE IDEA OF REMOVING THE PARKING FROM THE SPACE.
UH, ALTHOUGH WE DO KNOW THAT FOR CONVENIENCE PARKING, THAT COULD BE A VERY GOOD THING FOR THE ACTIVATION OF THESE, OF THESE BUILDINGS.
UH, THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE PARK SIDE AS WELL.
VERY GLASSY, VERY OPEN, VERY INVITING.
NEXT PAGE, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE A, A WOOD, UH, CLADDING TO THE BUILDING WHERE WE HAVE BACK OF HOUSE SPACES, BUT HERE IN THIS VIEW YOU CAN SEE THE THREE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THE LYTIC STONE, UH, THAT CREATES THAT DATUM OF THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, THE WOOD CLADDING FOR THE BACK OF HOUSE SPACES, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO USE AS A BACKDROP FOR POTENTIAL SIGNAGE, CLEAR GLASS INTO THE SPACE.
UM, ALRIGHT GUYS, I'M GONNA CLICK THIS AND THEN, UH, WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A BULL NOSE, UH, EYEBROW, WHICH SPEAKS TO THE RADIUSES THAT WE'RE USING IN FIVE PARK AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I CAN, YEAH, I MEAN WE INCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.
WE HAD A LOT OF FUN TECHNICAL STAFFERS.
THE, UH, WE JUST CLOSED WITH THE FOLLOWING, RIGHT? THE THERE ARE TWO, THERE'S A, UH, WE'VE REQUESTED, WE WILL REQUEST THAT YOU MODIFY CONDITION 2D TWO A, WHICH IS THE AFOREMENTIONED PARKING LOT CONDITION TO REFLECT THE ALTERNATIVE THAT'S LAID OUT BY STAFF IN THE NARRATIVE, WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE, IN WHAT WE'VE HANDED OUT, WHICH IS BASICALLY EX REMOVING ANY, UH, WHEEL STOPS, EXTENDING THE LANDSCAPING AND WITH CURBING TO BASICALLY ALLOW CARS TO, UH, REST AGAINST THE CURB AND EXTEND THAT, UH, EXTEND THAT LANDSCAPED AREA, REMOVE THE PAINT AND REPLACE, UH, FOR THE, THE SPACING DELINEATION AND, AND HAVE IT, UH, HAVE PAVERS DO IT INSTEAD.
SO, UM, WE, WE THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIR COMPROMISE.
UM, WE, THIS BUILDING REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE SOME, SOME LEVEL OF PARKING, UH, ADJACENT TO IT TO FUNCTION PROPERLY.
AND AS I'VE NOTED TO STAFF, THE OTHER TECHNICAL CHANGE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, WHICH IS UH, IS TO THE OVERALL DRAFT.
I MEAN THE OVERALL STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR 18 MONTHS FOR BUILDING PERMIT.
THIS PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THE DEADLINES FOR BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE ARE GOVERNED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, NOT REALLY THIS BOARD'S CONCERN, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ON THE RECORD SO THE FINAL ORDER CAN REFLECT THAT CHANGE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND I'D LIKE TO RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK, SPEAK? NO.
ANYBODY ONLINE? WE HAVE, UH, TIM CARR.
THIS IS TIM CARR WEST APP NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
I JUST NEED TO THROW YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU CONTINUE.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE, THAT TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO.
TIM CARR, WEST TAB, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PRESIDENT OF THE BENTLEY BAY.
UM, WE DID HAVE A CHANCE, UH, TO REVIEW THE PLANS, BOTH THE BOARD AND, UH, THE BENLEY BAY AND ALSO WEST AB NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
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WE SUPPORT THE PLANS THAT PROPOSED TODAY.UH, WE DO ASK, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT DESIGN.
I THINK IT REALLY INTEGRATES WELL WITH THE PARK.
UH, WE DO ASK THOUGH THAT YOU ACCOMMODATE A PUBLIC RESTROOM FOR PEOPLE USING THE PARK RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE DO HAVE WITH FAMILIES AND KIDS ON THE PLAYGROUND.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS WE HAVE ALREADY GIFT TOPLESS.
I JUST NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, PLEASE.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
UH, UH, UH, SIXTH STREET, IS THAT NO LONGER GOING TO BE A PUBLIC STREET? IS THAT NOW PRIVATE TO THIS PROJECT? THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR SIXTH STREET HAS BEEN VACATED.
IT IS NO LONGER A PUBLIC STREET, BUT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT PROVIDES PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO, SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY FUNCTIONS AS A PUBLIC STREET, BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT A PUBLIC STREET.
PEDESTRIAN AND PARTICULAR ACCESS.
THERE ARE 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF, BUT COULD SOMEBODY DRIVE FROM WHATEVER BAY ROAD, ALTON WEST ALTON TO WEST, YES.
SO THEN IT IS KIND OF STILL PUBLIC.
I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
SCOTT, DO YOU WANNA START? YEAH.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M SUCH A FAN OF THIS PROJECT, ULTIMATE THE WAY THE BUILDING AND THE PARK HAVE TURNED OUT.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN I THINK WE ALL ANTICIPATED.
I WALKED THROUGH THERE A LOT AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU WITH PARKING.
I WAS ON THE PARKING COMMITTEE FOR EIGHT YEARS AND THIS TOWN JUST KEEPS CUTTING PARKING OUT AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO STOP AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO BUY ANYTHING.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO PARK YOUR CAR WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO BUY SOMETHING.
SO I TOTALLY, I APPRECIATE STAFF'S, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARK, BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY CHANGING IT TO THIS, TO THIS CONFIGURATION IS BETTER FOR THE PARK AND FOR THE RETAIL.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE WHITE LINES NOT BE PUT, THAT YOU'D DO THAT WITH STONE, WITH PAVERS AND THINGS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED IF WE KEEP THE PARKING.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
UM, WHAT ELSE WAS I GONNA SAY? I THINK THAT WAS IT.
I REALLY, YEAH, I'M REALLY, I'M A BIG FAN OF PUTTING PARKING.
I REMEMBER THIS DEBATE WHEN THIS CAME UP, AND WHEN YOU DO HAVE RETAIL WITH ZERO PARKING, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE.
BUT I THINK THE OTHER CHANGES ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK THEY'RE REALLY GONNA ENHANCE THE PARK.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT HIGH RISE, THAT EVERYBODY WAS FREAKING OUT ABOUT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN SITUATED, THE ANGLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU CAN BE IN THAT PARK.
AND IT, IT REALLY, IT'S AMAZING HOW A 50 STORY BUILDING DOES NOT RUIN THE IMPACT OF THAT PARK.
UM, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION IN GENERAL RELATING TO THE PARKING, IF THE PARKING LOT WASN'T THERE, THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE, THE MATERIAL THAT WE GOT THAT THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF ACCOMMODATES FOR THE PARKING.
WAS THAT WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING? YES.
THE PARKING, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT CAN BE MET BY THE PARKING THAT IS, THAT EXISTS IN THE, IN THE NEW BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT.
AND THEN DOES THE PARK ITSELF HAVE PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE? IS THAT WHAT I SAW OR THAT WAS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY? THERE WAS A PARK, THERE IS PARALLEL PARKING ON WEST AVENUE ADJACENT TO THE PARK.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PARK? MM-HMM.
THERE'S A PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE PARK THAT IS THE SOUTH BAY, UH, TOWERS PARKING, UHHUH
THE FLORIDIAN TOWERS PARK, BUT IT'S PRIVATE NOW.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA PREVENT PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST RUNNING INTO THE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO THE RETAIL FROM USING THIS PARKING LOT? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.
LIKE, DON'T YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA ENSURE THAT IT MEETS THE RIGHT, THE SERVES THE RIGHT PURPOSE? WELL, AND RAY CAN EXPLAIN, I, I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE PORTCO SHARE AREA OF, OF 500 ALTON.
BUT THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AREA.
I THINK THAT MOST, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING IN THERE FOR CONVENIENCE PURPOSES, A TYPICAL PEOPLE, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMAZON GUY, THE, THE FOOD DELIVERY GUY, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE ROOM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT STREET THAN ON THE NORTH SIDE REALLY FOR YOU.
SO I THINK THAT MOST, MOST OF THEM ARE JUST GONNA TAKE, AGAIN, THEY ALWAYS, AS WE ALWAYS KNOW, THEY TAKE THE PATH OF LEASE RESISTANCE AND IF THEY CAN GET TO THE FRONT OF THE RESIDENTIAL
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BUILDING AND THERE'S A LARGE AREA TO, TO PULL IN THERE, THEY'LL USE IT.WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT THERE, WHAT THAT WANTS VALET.
AND THEN MAYBE A LOT OF THE PART, THE, THE LOT WILL BE VALET, YOU KNOW, DURING THE EVENINGS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ALLOW THAT STAGING TO OCCUR.
SO IT, IT REALLY WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THE TENANT MIX IS.
BUT, UH, WE THINK THAT 500 ALDEN BY ITSELF FOR FIVE PARK, I APOLOGIZE, HAS HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH SPACE TO, TO, TO ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF IN AND OUT DELIVERY SPACE.
AND TO EXPAND UPON THAT FIVE PARK HAS TWO SEPARATE DROP-OFFS, TWO LOBBIES, AND A LOT OF INTERNAL QUEUING.
SO THERE'S, I DON'T, I DON'T, AND, AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT HAS TWO RES TWO ENTRANCES INTO THE GARAGE.
SO I DON'T SEE, UH, I WOULDN'T FORESEE RATHER, UH, A RESIDENT OR SOMEBODY GOING TO THAT BUILDING SAYING, HEY, I'M JUST GONNA PARK IN THIS LOT AND THEN GO TO THAT BUILDING.
THERE'S SO MUCH ACCESS THAT IT WAS A, IT WAS A HUGE PART ACTUALLY OF THE INITIAL DESIGN AND DISCUSSIONS, UM, ORIGINALLY WITH STAFF AND WITH THE GRB, UM, AS PART OF THAT, UH, AS PART OF THAT BUILDING, THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL IN THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S INTERPLAY WITH THE SPACE.
I WAS KIND OF SIMILARLY, SIMILARLY WORRIED IF PEOPLE WERE GONNA JUST PARK IN THAT PARKING LOT FOR THE PARK ITSELF.
UM, I DON'T, SO I GUESS THAT WILL BE UP TO YOUR TENANT OPERATORS TO DECIDE LIKE TO, FOR SIGNAGE AND EN ENFORCEMENT.
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE PARK BUT WOULD LIKE TO GO MM-HMM.
SO MEAN FOR MULTIPLE HOURS AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING TOO, IF THERE IS GONNA BE A, THESE ARE BIG BUILDINGS.
IF THERE'S GONNA BE A RESTAURANT HERE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE THAN 11 SPOTS.
I MEAN, AS ROGELIO NOTED, RIGHT, THE, THE, THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKING FOR, FOR THE RETAIL IS SERVED BY THE 500 ALTON BUILDING.
THAT GARAGE WILL INCLUDE SPACES THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE RETAIL USE.
SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED THAT WAY.
THE RE WE ARE JUST, WE'RE NEVER, THIS LOT WAS NEVER GOING TO HOLD ALL THE PARKING THAT'S NECESSARY.
IT'S ONLY LESS THAN A THIRD OF WHAT THE DEMAND WOULD BE.
SO FROM A, FROM AN OPERATIONAL POINT OF VIEW, IF WE HAVE A RESTAURANT THAT'S POPULAR, THERE'LL BE A VALET, THEY'LL PARK THEM IN THE, IN THE GARAGE.
SO THIS IS DESIGNED FOR, I MEAN, HANDICAP SPACES, OBVIOUSLY, AND TO HAVE PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT QUICKLY.
MAYBE IT'LL BE A 15 MINUTE ONLY KIND OF PARKING THING, WHICH IS REALLY VALUABLE.
LIKE FOR UBER EATS, WHAT WAS THE REALLY, WHAT WAS YOUR IDEA FOR THE SPACE OR WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE? IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PARKING LOT, WAS IT JUST GREEN SPACE? OR THEORETICALLY IT COULD BE GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD INTEGRATE INTO THE PARK, PROVIDE PATHWAYS INTO THE PARK, UM, IMPROVE THOSE LINKAGES.
UM, YOU, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN IN MIND.
WE WOULD WANNA WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT, BUT IDEALLY IT WOULD BE INPRO SOMEHOW IMPROVING THE CONNECTIVITY INTO THE PARK.
SOMETHING TO NOTE THAT THE PARKING LOT IS NOT ASPHALT.
SO LET'S JUST SAY THERE IS SOME TYPE OF EVENT THAT REQUIRES MORE OUTDOOR SEATING OR SOME, SOME EVENT THAT'S IN THE PARK THAT NEEDS SOME EXPANSION OR SOME SETUP.
LIKE THAT PARKING LOT COULD BE TAKEN OVER AND STILL FEEL LIKE IT'S IN A PLAZA SETTING TO INTERACT WITH BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE GREEN SPACE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALWAYS BEEN DESIGNED.
I, YOU KNOW, LIO, IT WAS REALLY STRUCK, UM, THAT STAFF FELT VERY STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PARKING LOT.
WHAT, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT, I MEAN, A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT IT JUST THAT YOU WANNA TAKE, YOU THINK THAT IT SHOULD JUST BE EXPANDING OF THE PARK AND THEN WHAT'S THE COUNTER ARGUMENT TO SERVING THE CONVENIENCE FOR THE STORES AND MAKING SURE THAT THE STORES ARE SUCCESSFUL? SO FOR MOST OF THE PARKING FOR THE RETAIL IS, IS LOCATED IN, IN THE, IN THE ADJACENT TOWER.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE IS PARALLEL PARKING ON ALTON ROAD.
THERE'S PARALLEL PARKING ON WEST AVENUE.
UM, THERE'S SUFFICIENT PARALLEL PARKING FOR THOSE CONVENIENT IN AND OUT USES.
UM, WE BELIEVE, AND ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY DENSE AREA, THIS IS PROBABLY THE DENSEST AREA OF THE CITY, WE DO EXPECT A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING, UM, TO THIS RETAIL LOCATION.
YOU HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, 500, YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE FIVE PARK BUILDING.
YOU HAVE THE FLORIDIAN, YOU HAVE UH, ICON, YOU HAVE MORANO, MORANO GRANDE, YOU HAVE ALL THESE REALLY TALL BUILDINGS WITHIN A BLOCK THAT WE DO EXPECT THAT A LARGE PROPORTION OF THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING TO THIS BUILDING WILL BE WALKING.
UM, SO IDEALLY THAT'S, THAT'S THE METHOD WE'D LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THERE AND IS, IS TO WALK AND TO MINIMIZE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OUR, OUR, OUR THOUGHTS IN THIS IS THAT, UH, ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSIT WILL BE THE PREDOMINANT FORM OF PEOPLE GETTING TO THIS LOCATION.
UM, FOR THOSE QUICK IN AND OUT VEHICLE TRIPS, THERE WOULD BE, UM, UM, SOME, THEY WOULD BE
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ABLE TO USE THE ON-STREET PARKING.UM, UM, AND ALSO THERE'S ANOTHER, AN OTHER ALTERNATIVE WHERE THERE IS A MORE LIMITED AMOUNT OF PARKING IN A PARALLEL PARKING AREA, PERHAPS RATHER THAN 90 DEGREE PARKING.
THAT'S A MORE LIMITED FOOTPRINT, UM, TO SERVICE PER, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HANDICAP PARKING AND, AND ANY OTHER, UM, REALLY BASIC, UH, NEEDS FOR PARKING AS WELL.
HOW DOES THE, THE, UM, PARALLEL PARKING ON WEST AVENUE AND ALTON ROAD IS TYPICALLY TAKEN AND WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE VISITING THIS PARK, MOST LIKELY WILL COME FROM NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS, MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF US THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS THAT WOULD LIKE TO VISIT IT AND, YOU KNOW, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, SO I, AND IT SORT OF REPLACES ALL, NOT SORT OF, IT DOES REPLACE THE ANGLE PARKING, UM, THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
SO WHY DID IT GET APPROVED THEN WITH THE ANGLE PARKING? WAS IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IT, IT WAS APPROVED.
THERE WAS NOTHING MORE TO, TO DISCUSS AT THAT POINT.
I KNOW IT WAS, UH, CONTENTIOUS AND, AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON IT, BUT, UM, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS REALLY REPLACING SOME OF THAT ANGLE PARKING WITH THIS LITTLE PARKING LOT.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I THINK STAFF MAINTAIN THE SAME POSITION BACK WHEN
BUT IT'S UP TO, IT'S UP TO THE DV NOW.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE AND BUY SOMETHING HERE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC PARK, MEANING OPEN TO EVERYBODY ON MIAMI BEACH, MOST LIKELY USED BY THOSE LIVING IN THE AREA, BUT HAVING SOME LIMITED PARKING, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S ALWAYS PROBABLY GONNA BE FULL ALL THE TIME,
UM, IT JUST CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF CONVENIENCE AND I THINK IT HELPS WHATEVER RETAIL GOES IN THAT AREA.
HOW DOES THE SIZE OF THIS LOT RELATE TO WHAT'S THERE NOW FOR THE SALE CENTERS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOOTPRINT OR INTENTIONALLY? THE, THE SALES CENTER IS, UH, ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE, THE SALES CENTER ITSELF.
I DON'T THE ACTUAL SALES CENTER, BUT THE LOT THAT'S SERVING THE SALES CENTER RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT ABOUT THE SAME SIZE? OH, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE SAME LOT.
AS YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PARK, SO
AND YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THAT BIG OF A, AN ISSUE WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOW LOT THAT'S THERE NOW.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S PAVED CONCRETE RIGHT NOW, SO IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH THE PAVERS.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY ASPHALT AS FOR THE SURFACE LOT THAT'S THERE.
AND, UM, YEAH, THIS WOULD BE REPLACED WITH PAVERS.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO TALK TO MAYBE TABLE THIS, UM, ABOUT THE DESIGN, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY LOVELY IMPROVEMENT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE.
THE MATERIAL, THE EXTERIOR WOOD CLADDING.
I KNOW, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S COME UP BEFORE.
IS THAT GONNA BE REAL WOOD ENGINEERED WOOD? WE'RE PROPOSING AT THE MOMENT TO USE A REAL WOOD BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE CANOPY UHHUH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ENGINEERED PRODUCTS BECAUSE IT'S GETTING MUCH BETTER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THE CEILING WILL FOR SURE BE ENGINEERED WOOD 'CAUSE WE HAVE GREAT PRODUCTS FOR THAT.
BUT, UH, FOR THE SIDING PORTION, WE'RE CONSIDERING A REAL WOOD.
I WOULD JUST REQUEST, OR I WOULD HAVE US REQUEST THAT IT BE A SORT OF ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ONE.
I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE LOOKED DOWN UPON THE EPAY WOOD.
UM, SO SOMETHING REGENERATIVE.
UM, THE OTHER, I'D ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP THE POINT THAT ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED IN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE RESTROOMS, WHICH IS, WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS WELL.
UM, THE REASON THAT I BRING IT UP, I HAPPEN TO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO POLO PARK, AND WE HAD THIS ISSUE WHERE THE POLO PARK ALSO DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESTROOMS. AND IT BECAME, NOW THERE'S, IT WAS A HUGE DEMAND FROM THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA, AND NOW THERE'S A LITTLE TRAILER RESTROOM SITUATION.
UM, BUT I DO KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, LIKE A, A PLAYGROUND.
LIKE I, I KNOW THAT THIS AREA IS USED BY A LOT OF KIDS IN BATHROOMS. AND I WAS HOPING THAT THAT COULD BE THAT THERE, THAT AND, AND BECAUSE THE PARK DOESN'T HAVE RESTROOMS, THAT THIS COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS DESIGN.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN ANYBODY ELSE INCORPORATED INTO THE RETAIL.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? THE, WELL, THE RE THE RETAIL WILL HAVE THE REQUIRED RESTROOMS FOR THE SIZE OF THOSE, OF THE, OF THOSE SPACES.
UM, IS THE REQUEST TO PUT PUBLIC RESTROOMS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE BUILDING, THE, TO SERVE RETAIL RESTROOM TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
I WOULD ALSO SAY TOO, THAT IT'S VERY RARE TO GO INTO A RETAIL STORE IN MIAMI BEACH AND BE ABLE TO USE THEIR RESTROOM.
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YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PARK, BECAUSE THESE BUILDINGS ARE SO INTEGRATED INTO THE PARK, ARE GONNA THINK THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE PARK AND NOT THE CONDO NEXT DOOR.AND THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND THEY'RE GONNA ASK TO USE THE RESTROOM.
AND SO, SO MAYBE THAT BECOMES PART OF THE COMPROMISE OF, OKAY, THIS LAND CAN BE THE PARKING LOT, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS INTEGRATED INTO THE PARK AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE THAT A NOTE FOR THE CITY PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN GENERAL, HOW REALLY USEFUL IT IS, ESPECIALLY IN PARKS WITH PLAYGROUNDS TO HAVE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. UM, I I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE 22 PARKS ON MIAMI BEACH DO NOT HAVE A RESTROOM.
UH, THE BEACH HAS IT, AND THE PARKS THAT DO HAVE IT, FLAMINGO PARK, NORMANDY, NORTH SHORE, UM, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE RESTROOMS, THE SECURITY IN THOSE RESTROOMS AND THE ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS IN THOSE RESTROOMS BECOMES A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND VERY DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN AND A LOT OF TIMES NOT MAINTAINED.
UM, SO I, UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
IF YOU GO ANYWHERE ON LINCOLN ROAD AND TRY TO USE A RESTROOM IN ANY OF THE STORES, THEY TELL YOU THEY DON'T HAVE ANY.
WELL, OF COURSE THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T LET YOU USE THEM.
UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED.
I AGREE IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE RESTROOMS. UM, MAYBE ALL OF US HERE WOULD USE THEM PROPERLY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POPULATION IN THIS AREA.
UM, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF ABUSE IN THOSE RESTROOMS. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING WHEN WE SWING THAT FAR THAT WAY, I LOOK AT THE STRETCH OF THE BEACH WALK UP IN THE SORT OF FIFTIES AND SIXTIES WHERE EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE PUBLIC USING, AND THERE'S NO WATER FOUNTAIN.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO FOR A MILE IN THE HEAT AND THERE'S NO WATER FOUNTAIN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE SITTING THERE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS A REALLY DEEP NEED THAT WAS FELT WITH THIS ONE PARK.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS THAT ALONG OMA PARK, SOME OF THE SHOWERS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY.
AND SO NOW THERE'S REALLY LONG LINES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO WANNA USE THE BEACH AND WANNA SHOWER OFF.
AND IT'S LIKE, WE'VE GOTTEN SO DEFENSIVE AND YET THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE AND IT'S AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT DO NEED THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLY USING THEM.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY ANY OF THE PUBLIC LANDS COULD BECOME PLACES WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT WHEN WE DON'T WANT THEM TO.
BUT THEN ARE WE GONNA STOP BUILDING PLAYGROUNDS? ARE WE GONNA STOP CREATING PUBLIC SPACES? I THINK THAT THE REALITY IS THESE SPACES ARE CREATED FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENJOY, AND WE HAVE TO HELP THEM ENJOY IT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, I, MY CHILDREN AREN'T LITTLE ANYMORE, BUT IT REALLY IS AN INCONVENIENCE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO THIS PARK, YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS FACILITY TO, TO, TO NOT HAVE A RESTROOM.
AND YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE.
BUT IT'S LIKE YOU'RE CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE.
I BEING INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION AND NOT A SITUATION A, A PROBLEM FOR SO MANY YEARS, UH, WHEN I WAS HERE AT THE CITY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AGREE TOTALLY WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
HOWEVER, REALISTICALLY, IT'S NOT JUST A FEW PEOPLE THAT ABUSE OF THIS SITUATION.
AND NOW AS A RESULT, THE MAJORITY CAN'T HAVE IT.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ABUSE OF THIS SITUATION.
IT ISN'T THE MINORITY FROM WHAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING.
SO UNTIL SOMETHING IS FIXED, YOU KNOW, IT JUST CREATES A PROBLEM THAT CANNOT AND HAS NOT BEEN, UM, CONTROLLED OR PROPERLY ADDRESSED SO THAT YOU AND I CAN ACTUALLY USE A RESTROOM WHETHER WE GO AS ADULTS OR WITH CHILDREN.
I KNOW THAT, UM, FISHER PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE PARENTS GO WITH A LITTLE PORTAL TOILET, YOU KNOW, FOR THE KIDS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEM USING, NOT THAT THERE ARE ANY, BUT EVEN WHEN THEY GO TO A PARK LIKE FLAMINGO, THEY DON'T WANT THEM USING THE PUBLIC