Sep 15, 2026 Historic Preservation Board

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FOR THE SEPTEMBER 15, RATHER

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[CITY ATTORNEY UPDATES]

GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS BEING CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT WITH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AT MIAMI BEACH CITY HALL AND APPLICANT STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM. THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM MAY DIAL THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER, WHICH IS 888-475-4499 AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH IS 817-483-47488 POUND OR LOG INTO THE ZOOM APP AND ENTER THE WEBINAR ID, WHICH AGAIN IS 817-483-4-7488.

INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM MUST CLICK RAISE HAND IF THEY ARE USING THE ZOOM APP OR DIAL STAR9 IF PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.

BEFORE I SWEAR ON THOSE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CITY'S NOTICE REGARDING LOBBYIST REGISTRATION. IF YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS, A CORPORATION OR ANOTHER PERSON, INCLUDING AS AN ARCHITECT, ATTORNEY OR REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPLICANT OR OBJECTOR, YOU NEED TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF, YOU ARE TESTIFYING AS AN EXPERT WITNESS PROVIDING ONLY SCIENTIFIC, TECHNICAL OR OTHER SPECIALIZED TESTIMONY, OR YOU ARE APPEARING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR OR OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM. EXPERT WITNESSES AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES SHALL, PRIOR TO APPEARING, DISCLOSE IN WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK THEIR NAME, ADDRESS AND THE PRINCIPAL ON WHOSE BEHALF THEY ARE COMMUNICATING. THESE RULES APPLY WHETHER YOU ARE APPEARING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST AN ITEM OR ENCOURAGING ARGUING AGAINST ITS PASSAGE, DEFEAT, MODIFICATION OR CONTINUANCE. I WILL NOW SWEAR ON EVERYONE WHO

[SWEARING IN OF PUBLIC]

SO, IF YOU'LL BE TESTIFYING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL BE GIVING IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO SEE HERE NOW WE HAVE OUR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR CONTINUANCE? YES, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE FOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE FOR H3B

[2. HPB26-0691, 2100/2111 COLLINS AVENUE – THE BASS MUSEUM OF ART.]

DO WE HAVE COMMENTARY? THE BATH MUSEUM IS LOOKING TO CONTINUE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

THOSE IN FAVOR? MADAM CHAIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE SHOULD ASK WHETHER ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED CONTINUANCE.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC? NO ONE IN THE CHAMBERS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I THINK THAT BRINGS US THEN TO OUR FIRST ITEM. HPB 2607051722 JEFFERSON AVENUE.

THE FIRST ITEM

[3. HPB26-0705, 1722 JEFFERSON AVENUE.]

THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING TWO-STORY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A NEW TWO-STORY ADDITION AND VARIANCES FROM THE REQUIRED NORTH AND SOUTH INTERIOR SITE SETBACKS FOR A SWIMMING POOL.

AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD FOR AN AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1924, DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT P.O. WILSON AND IS CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING WITHIN THE PALM VIEW LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT. THAT WE DO. THERE ARE TWO VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. SO JUST GO OVER THAT AND READ INTO THE RECORD A VARIANCE TO REDUCE BY RANGE OF 6 INCHES TO 1,6 THE MINIMUM REQUIRED SIDE SETBACK OF 76 IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE SWIMMING POOL DECK OF A SETBACK OF 6FT BETWEEN 6FT AND 7FT ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATION.

THERE'S ALSO VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE RANGE FROM 1FT TO 4 INCHES TO 2FT 4 INCHES.

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THIS APPLICANT'S PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE SWIMMING POOL FOR A SMALLER CONFIGURATION.

SO, THE WAY THAT EXISTED WAS PROPOSED PAVERS THAT EXISTED ALL THROUGHOUT THEIR REAR YARD SETBACK. SO, THEY ARE REDUCING IT TO A SMALLER DECK AND POOL.

THE VARIANCES WE FEEL THAT ARE THE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED POOL DESIGN. THIS IS PARTICULARLY EVIDENT WHEN CONTRIBUTING THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS CONTAINING A PRE1942 ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT HOME. FOR SUCH PROPERTIES, THERE IS A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 5FT FEET TO THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.

PROPERTY LINE TO SWIMMING POOL DECK OR PLATFORM. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE PALM VIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT. HOWEVER, IT IS LOCATED IN OUR MOON ZONING DISTRICT, SO IT DOES REQUIRE THE GREATER SETBACK. HOWEVER, WHAT WE WANTED TO NOTE WAS THAT IF THIS WAS LOCATED IN A SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT WITHIN THE PALM VIEW DISTRICT. THIS ACTUALLY WOULDN'T REQUIRE A SETBACK.

SINCE THE MINIMUM IS 5FT, THEY ARE PROPOSING IT FROM A RANGE OF 6FT TO, TO 7FT. SO, IN THAT CASE, THIS IS THE REASON WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU ON THE BOARD. THE OTHER PORTION OF WHAT THE APPLICATION IS REQUESTING IS THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION.

THIS DESCRIBES QUALIFYING IMPROVEMENTS FOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE WINDOWS, THE DOORS, AND INTERIOR RENOVATION OF THE KITCHEN, BATHROOM AND LIVING SPACES.

STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPERTY IS A CONTRIBUTORY BUILDING THAT PROPOSES THE QUALIFYING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARD FOR REHABILITATION.

WE DO FEEL THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COA CRITERIA, AND WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE ATTACHED DRAFT ORDER.

AFTER THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANTS.

IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE HE PURCHASED THIS SITE AND I WOULD REALLY JUST LIKE TO COMMEND THIS NEW PROPERTY OWNER FOR PROPOSING WHAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL RETENTION AND RESTORATION OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY. I THINK GISELLE BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAUSES SOME DIFFICULTY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

IT IS ZONED RM1. SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, AND THE CURRENT OWNER, HIS INTENT IS TO USE IT AS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, IT HAS DIFFERENT SETBACKS THAN HE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE IF IT WAS THE SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. SO, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES HERE, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING AN AMAZING JOB. THIS WILL BE A HUGE ASSET TO THE PALM VIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT HE'S CHOOSING THIS TO BE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BECAUSE IF IT WAS TO BE CONVERTED INTO MULTIPLE UNITS, IT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE MORE AGGRESSIVE MODIFICATIONS. AND SO, THIS ACTUALLY IS A PRETTY LOW INTERVENTION APPLICATION THAT WE'RE HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF.

THANK YOU, DEBBIE. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RATHER FOR STAFF FIRST OFF? GO AHEAD, NOVICK.

YEAH.

QUICK QUESTION.

JUST IN THE STAFF REPORT I WAS READING ABOUT THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION, I DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. IT SAYS STAFF HAS ESTIMATED RANGE OF ANNUAL SAVINGS. DOES THAT MATTER TO US IF IT'S THE LOW VALUE OR HIGH VALUE? NO.

SO, AND I CAN EXPLAIN THAT THE DIFFICULTY IS THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, WHEN WE PROCESS THESE APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW THE COUNTY PORTIONS THEIR, THEIR EQUIVALENT APPLICATIONS, IS WE FRONT LOAD THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF AUTHORIZING A TAX EXEMPTION PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING ON THE SITE. WHAT THE DIFFICULTY IS THEIR SAVINGS IS GOING TO BE REALIZED ONLY AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS DONE AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER REASSESSES THE BUILDING VALUE. WE HAVE MET WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO TRY AND COME UP WITH ESTIMATES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO GIVE THEM A BALLPARK OF HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO SEE AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED OR RECOMMENDED.

THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE JUST BASIC BASE ANY POTENTIAL SAVINGS ON IF THERE'S NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE BEING ADDED BECAUSE THAT IS A TANGIBLE BUILDING VALUE INCREASE. AND WE BASE THAT NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE CURRENT PER SQUARE FOOT VALUE OF THE HOME, WHICH TYPICALLY AFTER YOU DO A MAJOR RENOVATION, THAT INCREASES.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT A PERFECT FORMULA. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COULD INCREASE THE BUILDING VALUE THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WILL NOT GIVE US. THEIR SECRET FOR FORMULA WE HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE

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IN THIS CASE, THE EXISTING PER SQUARE FOOT BUILDING VALUE WAS SO LOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL COME UP.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RANGE ON THIS.

BUT IT'S PURELY AN ESTIMATE.

WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE, REASONABLY ACCURATE WITH OUR ESTIMATES. WE'RE USUALLY ABOUT 10% LOW TO WHAT THE ACTUAL SAVINGS COMES OUT.

BUT PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL SAVINGS, THE COUNTY TAX APPRAISER WILL SEND US A REVENUE IMPLICATION STATEMENT WHICH WILL GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER THE EXACT SAVINGS.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT IN CHAMBERS? OKAY, PERFECT. COME ON UP.

MY NAME IS SCOTT WINKLE. I'M THE ARCHITECT JOSE BONDUJO WITH HIS RESIDENCE.

THANK YOU FOR THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

IT SAVED ME A LOT OF BREATH.

HE HAS A VERY MINOR INTERVENTION WE'RE DOING WITH THE POOL. AND AS YOU SAID, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED GENERALLY IN R1, BUT THE RM. SORRY, RM1 SUPERSEDED IT AT THE MOMENT.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO JUST GO BACK TO THE STANDARD HISTORIC SETBACKS OF 5FT. WE DON'T EVEN USE ALL THAT, BUT MAYBE ABOUT A ONE- OR TWO-FOOT ENCROACHMENT ON THE SIDES.

MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO ON ZOOM. JOSE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO PRESENT ANYTHING.

HE DID SEND IN A. HI, I'M HERE.

WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE VIDEO ON.

SIR, COULD I PLEASE SWEAR YOU ARE.

NO VIDEO, JUST YOU CAN'T SEE ME.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, EITHER SCOTT OR I CAN PRESENT.

WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A FEW SHEETS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT WERE JUST THROWN AROUND IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE POOL.

SO, WE HAD PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE CHART THAT SHOWED YOU, BUT THE SUMMARY, DEBBIE, YOU KIND OF HAVE ALREADY, AND GISELLE HAVE ALREADY COVERED IT, THAT IF THIS HAD BEEN ZONED, THAT THE COMMISSION HAD PASSED AN ORDINANCE A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE THE SETBACK FOR POOLS WAS FIVE FEET AND I WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, THERE'S A QUIRK IN THE ZONING IN THAT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE FOR SOME ODD REASON IS ZONED RM1. SO, WE HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO REQUEST WHAT IS ACTUALLY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN WOULD BE ALLOWED IF IT WERE JUST A REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY HISTORICAL HOME. AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE HERE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE SUMMARY. BUT WE CAN SHOW THE CHART IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.

THERE'S A POWERPOINT, SCOTT.

THERE'S A LAPTOP ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE. IT HAS THE SLIDES ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE.

THE NEXT PODIUM OVER, THE NEXT PODIUM TO YOUR LEFT, YOUR LEFT, YOUR OTHER LEFT.

AND IT HAS YOUR POWERPOINT LOADED.

OKAY. I THINK IT'S COMING UP HERE ANYWAY. OH, WOULD YOU BELIEVE I DON'T USUALLY DO THESE.

WELL, I CAN GO THROUGH IT, SCOTT, IF YOU WANT.

SIR, COULD I PLEASE SWEAR YOU IN? OH, SURE, YEAH.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

THANK YOU.

SO, IF WE WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO REALLY, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS TO TWO REQUESTS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, THE TAX EXEMPTION AND THE VARIANCE FOR THE POOL AND NEXT SLIDE.

SO AS DEBBIE SAID, THIS IS THE PROPERTY TODAY ON THE LEFT, AS YOU SEE. AND WE ARE. YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOME. I'M NOT MAKING A SINGLE CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE FRONT FACADE AND IN FACT VERY FEW OTHER CHANGES, RETAINING ALL THE WINDOWS AND ET CETERA TO, TO KEEP THE ARCHITECTURAL LOOK INTACT.

THERE'S A SLIGHT INCORRECT PRESENTATION IN THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE NOT ADDING A TWO-FLOOR ADDITION.

IN FACT, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS CALLED IN A BIT OF A PANIC WHEN SHE SAW THAT NOTICE. WE ARE ACTUALLY JUST CONNECTING THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. IT'S ALREADY TWO LEVELS AND WE ARE JUST CONNECTING THE. THE THREE INDIVIDUAL PARTS OF THE HOUSE. IT'S A WEIRD CONSTRUCTION. IT WAS BUILT WITH A FRONT, A MIDDLE AND A BACK AND THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TODAY. SO, OUR BIGGEST ARCHITECTURAL CHANGE, WHICH IS NOT CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, IS TO CONNECT THREE, THREE INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS OF THE HOUSE INTO ONE SINGLE LIVING SPACE.

SO, IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT POINT IN THE DESCRIPTION, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING TWO, WE'RE NOT ADDING TWO FLOORS TO THE HOUSE.

IT WAS AN EXTERIOR WALKWAY BEFORE AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENCLOSED GLASS BRIDGE, CORRECT?

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SO, NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, FOR THE TAX EXEMPTION, I'M NOT SURE WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.

AS DEBBIE MENTIONED, FOR SOME REASON MIAMI BEACH FRONT LOADS THIS AND REQUIRES THE MEETING. NOW, WHILE MIAMI DADE WAS THE OTHER PART OF THE TAX EXEMPTION SIMPLY FILES AWAY THIS PART A UNTIL THE ACTUAL TAX EXEMPTION IS GRANTED A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED.

JUST AS A POINT, AS A HOMEOWNER, IT'S, IT'S ODD TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE THE TWO COUNTIES INVOLVED REQUIRE TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES BASICALLY FOR THE SAME TAX EXEMPTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A RECENT HOMEOWNER DISCOVERING HOW THE HISTORICAL PROCESS WORKS, THIS IS ONE THAT THE BOARD MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HOW TO ALIGN THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FUTURE HOMEOWNERS AS YOU LOOK TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER FOR, FOR FUTURE PURCHASES IN TRYING TO RESTORE THESE BEAUTIFUL HOMES. SO, I GUESS I CAN STOP THERE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TAX EXEMPTION, ANYTHING WE NEED TO COVER FOR, FOR THE APPROVAL? IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL HOLD OUR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

OKAY, PERFECT. SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO, THIS IS WHERE WE MOVE INTO THE POOL VARIANT. SO, THE CURRENT POOL IS THIS REALLY LARGE, IRREGULAR GROTTO STYLE WITH A SPA, ALL THIS STUFF ON IT THAT IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT IN MY VIEW, ARCHITECTURALLY WITH THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE.

SO, ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE, AS DEBBIE MENTIONED AND GAZELLE MENTIONED, A SIMPLER, MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD POOL THAT'S MORE SCALED TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS JUST A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF IT NOW. AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HOW ABOUT THE NEXT ONE? SO, THIS IS WHAT I HAD MENTIONED. THERE IS AN ORDINANCE ALREADY THAT CREATES A FIVE-FOOT POOL SETBACK FOR HOMES LIKE THIS. AND WE REALLY ARE JUST HERE BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR HOME IS ZONED AS AN RM1 WHICH DOES NOT FALL UNDER THAT, ALL THAT ORDINANCE.

BUT I BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO THE HOME 100% BECAUSE AS DEBBIE SAID, IT WILL. MY GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN IT AS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS REALLY WHERE I THINK THE MATH COMES, IS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. SO, WE'RE GIVING YOU EACH OF THE SIDES OF THE HOUSE AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE OUR PROPOSED RELIEF, OUR PROPOSED SIZING IS ACTUALLY IN ALL CASES MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THE 5FT HISTORIC STANDARD.

SO, I COULD TECHNICALLY IF YOU APPROVED IT, GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE RELIEF REQUESTED, BUT IT DOESN'T ALIGN ARCHITECTURE.

WE'RE ALIGNING THE HOUSE, THE POOL, WITH THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S THE SETBACK OF THE POOL THAT YOU'RE SEEING, ACTUALLY MATCHES THE SETBACK ON THE SIDE YARDS PRETTY MUCH WITH. WITH THE HOUSE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE CHART THAT HELPS UNDERSTAND THE. THE RELIEF REQUEST. I THINK THERE. THERE MIGHT BE ONE MORE SLIDE.

YEAH.

OH, AND THIS SHOWS YOU, AGAIN, VISUALLY, THE SITE DESIGN, CURRENT POOL, EXISTING POOL, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE.

THE NEW POOL. SO, YOU CAN SEE IT'S REALLY JUST AN ALIGNMENT OF THE HOUSE ARCHITECTURALLY.

MORE STRAIGHT ALONG THE. THE LINES OF THE.

OF THE CURRENT HOUSE. AND THERE, IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW BRIDGE THAT, LIKE I SAID, SCOTT MENTIONED, IT'S AN OUTDOOR WALKWAY TODAY, BUT IT WILL BE AN ENCLOSED WALKWAY IN. IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY.

YES, IT WILL.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT THEN.

YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. SEEING? NONE.

I HAVE ONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY. I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU'VE DECIDED TO ADD A SECOND KITCHEN.

OH, IT'S OUTSIDE. THAT'S AN OLD. THAT'S AN OLD DRAWING, RIGHT? ABOUT SIX WEEKS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO BE HEALTHY INSTEAD OF MORE COOKING. YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A KITCHEN THERE ALREADY. THAT HOUSE IS SET UP WITH AN ENTIRE APARTMENT IN THE BACK WITH A FULL KITCHEN. AND AT THE TIME WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, I'M LIKE, OH, THAT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE IT NEAR THE POOL.

BUT THEN I'VE DECIDED TO BE HEALTHY INSTEAD, AND WE'RE CONVERTING THAT INTO A GYM, SO.

OKAY, GOOD IDEA.

AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IT'S INTERESTING THAT

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MOST PEOPLE WANT TO GET RID OF SHUTTERS, AND YOU ADDED SHUTTERS TO THE HOUSE.

THERE ARE SHUTTERS ON THE REAR. REAR END OF THE HOUSE. SO, WE'RE USING.

WE'RE REFERRING TO THOSE ON THE FRONT END, BUT THEY DIDN'T JUST COME OUT OF THE BLUE. IS THAT THE QUESTION? JUST. JUST. THAT WAS JUST. I SAW THAT YOU ADDED SHUTTERS THAT WEREN'T THERE INITIALLY, AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS.

IF THERE'S A. THERE'S A LARGER PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS ALL THE SIDES OF THE HOUSE, AND THERE'S SHUTTERS ON THE REAR, SO WE KIND OF ECHOED THAT ON THE FRONT.

SO, IT'S INTERESTING.

YEAH.

BUT WE WANTED TO. BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF THAT HOUSE. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A PICTURE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND A LITTLE BIT OF A CORNER OF MY HOUSE.

BUT WE ARE REALLY. WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SHUTTERS THERE ORIGINALLY. SO THAT. THAT'S REALLY THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO BRING THAT BACK. AND PERSONALLY, I LIKE. I LIKE THE SHUTTER, SO.

OKAY.

JUST WAS CURIOUS.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

OH, GO AHEAD. NO, NO, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE FENESTRATION ON THE PRIMARY ELEVATION? LOOKS LIKE WHAT IS EXISTING IS A FIVE LIGHT CASEMENT, AND JUST FROM THE PHOTOS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE REPLACING IT WITH A SINGLE HOME.

WE DEFINITELY ARE TRYING TO ECHO ALL THE MUNTINS PER THE ORIGINAL DRAWINGS. THERE'S CERTAIN RATIOS THAT ARE BEST FOR THE WINDOWS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX MUNTINS PER PANEL.

OKAY.

OR FOUR OR FIVE AT LEAST. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RENDERING SHOWS YET. IT'S A LITTLE DARK THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S MENTIONED ON PAGE NINE. IT JUST READS AS A SINGLE HOME.

AS A. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

TWO WAYS.

WE HAVE BRONZE GLASS, SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY. IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? OKAY. NO ONE ON ZOOM. GO AHEAD.

GOOD MORNING. MEG LUSTO, MIAMI DESIGN PRESERVATION LEAGUE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED RENOVATION OF THIS HISTORIC SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 1722 JEFFERSON AVENUE. WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO IMPROVING THE PROPERTY WHILE RESPECTING THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC HOME AND ITS SETTING WITHIN THE PALM VIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE PARTICULARLY SUPPORT THE MORE RESTRAINED DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED POOL AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND BELIEVE THE OVERALL PROJECT DEMONSTRATES HOW AN HISTORIC RESIDENCE CAN BE SENSITIVELY UPDATED TO MEET CONTEMPORARY NEEDS WHILE MAINTAINING THE QUALITIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE THANK THE APPLICANT AND THE DESIGN TEAM FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL STEWARDSHIP OF THIS HISTORIC PROPERTY AND ENCOURAGE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD COMMENT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

COULD WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? ONE THE VARIANCES, AND THEN THE OTHER ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE TAX EXEMPTION.

OKAY. THE VARIANCE FIRST, OF COURSE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE SECOND.

WHICH.

OKAY.

THE TAX.

THE TAX.

THE VARIANCE.

NO, THE VARIANCE OF THE.

THE SETBACK.

THE SETBACK.

OKAY.

DO YOU WANT TO CALL? THERE'S TWO VARIANTS FOR THE POOL.

SO, THE FIRST MOTION WAS BY MITCH NOVICK AND THE SECOND BY HOLLINGWORTH. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION PASSES.

SECOND MOTION IS REGARDING THE AD VALOREM EXCEPTION.

OKAY.

THIS IS FOR A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE HPB

[4. HPB26-0693, 1207 LENOX AVENUE.]

ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS HB 2606-93.

1207 LINUX AVE. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS AND AN AFTER THE FACT VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED REAR YARD LOT COVERAGE AND REDUCE THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACE IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE PREVIOUS PAVERS WITHIN THE REAR YARD OF THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE AFTER-THE-FACT APPROVAL

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THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1938 BY ARCHITECT DAVID T. ELLIS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL ART DECO TRANSITIONAL STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE. THERE ARE TWO VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED SO I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD. THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO REDUCE 40.5% THE MINIMUM REQUIRED REAR YARD LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACE OF 70% PERCENT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE REAR YARD LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACE OF 29.5. THE SECOND ONE IS REGARDING THE LOCK COVERAGE. IT'S TO EXCEED 40.5% OF THE LOCK COVERAGE OF 30% IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A REAR YARD COVERAGE OF 70.5%. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE FLAMINGO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT. THERE'S CURRENTLY A FRONT SETBACK OF 50FT WHERE TYPICALLY ONE-STORY STRUCTURES ARE REQUIRED 20FT PER CODE. AND THE RETENTION OF THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES THE AREA FOR EXTERIOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

HOWEVER, THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE PAVERS ARE LOCATED IN THE REAR YARD IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE SOLUTION GIVEN THAT THERE'S LESS IMPACT ON LENOX AVENUE AND THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT ALREADY EXISTS. SO THE PARKING WILL PROVIDE ACCESS BY THE ALLEY. NOW THESE VARIANCES THAT ARE GRANTED AREN'T NECESSARILY A RESULT OF MAXIMIZING ITS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. WE FEEL THAT IT DOES CREATE. HAVING THE FACT THAT IT RETAINS THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME CREATES THIS PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WHERE YOU HAVE THE DEEPER SETBACK AND THEREFORE IT IS HARD TO MEET THE LAW COVERAGE AND THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS SINCE THERE IS SIGNIFICANTLY STEP BACK FROM THE FRONT. WE DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PAVERS THAT EXTENDS EXTEND TO THE 12TH STREET WHICH IS THE STREET SIDE. WE DO RECOMMEND THAT IT REDUCES THE OVERALL WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY IN ORDER TO COMPLY PER CODE AND SO THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL VARIANCE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE FEEL THAT IT IS JUSTIFIED BY THE UNIQUE CONDITIONS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE MINIMUM RELIEF REASONABLY NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. AND WITH THAT, WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES AND THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS THAT'S ENUMERATED IN THE DROP STAFF ORDER.

THANKS, GISELLE. IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

RECENTLY THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION ACTUALLY REFERRED AN ITEM TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT, TO TRY TO MAYBE SEE IF THERE'S SOME UNNECESSARY, YOU KNOW, REGULATIONS IN THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTED AND I'M SURE THIS BOARD IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES LOCATED WITHIN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IF YOU'RE NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO WE PRIMARILY HAVE FLAMINGO PARK AND PALM VIEW AS THE SINGLE FAMILY HISTORIC AREAS.

HISTORICALLY, ALL OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAD A 50-FOOT REQUIRED SET. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS REQUIRED, BUT THEY WERE ALL PRETTY MUCH CONSTRUCTED 50FT BACK FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.

WHEREAS TODAY THE SAME ONE-STORY HOME WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AT 20FT. AND MOST OF THEM ARE RIGHT. MOST NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES DO THE 20. AND IF IT'S A TWO STORY, IT CAN BE SET BACK 30FT, BUT THEY USUALLY, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.

FOR SOME REASON. HISTORICALLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WAS THESE LARGER FRONT SETBACKS. WHAT THAT HAS THE EFFECT OF DOING IS IF A HISTORIC HOME WANTS TO BE RETAINED AND PUT ANYTHING IN THE BACK, THEY ALMOST ALWAYS NEED A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ONLY REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE ACCESSORY BUILDING REQUIREMENTS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS IN THE REAR YARD. AND WHAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS OR SO IS IF I'M WORKING WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER EITHER IN FLAMINGO OR PALM VIEW, THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO NEED A VARIANCE IF THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE REAR.

AND WE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN THE REAR SO THAT IT DOESN'T BLOCK THE HISTORIC VIEW OF THE HOME. SO THAT IS ONE THING. THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TO PROPOSE MODIFICATIONS TO IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE JUST, WE DO SEE IT AS AN ONEROUS REQUIREMENT FOR PEOPLE WISHING TO RETAIN HISTORIC SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? YOU MAY.

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BUT DO YOU KNOW GISELLE? DID THEY RECEIVE A CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATION? IS THIS TO CURE A VIOLATION OR HOW WAS IT NOTED THAT. THAT THEY DID THIS WITHOUT PERMIT? THEY DID RECEIVE A VIOLATION.

YES.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A FENCE PUT UP THERE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. WAS THAT PROPERLY PERMITTED AND THROUGH ALL THE EXACT. OR IS THAT HOW THIS.

WE DO HAVE A CONDITION REGARDING THE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE FIVE-FOOT WALL THAT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR.

NO, ON THE BACKSIDE BY THE ALLEY.

ON THE BACKSIDE. IS IT THE.

THE FENCE THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT AT THE REAR PROPERTY LINE? JUST GIVEN THAT WE'RE HERE ON AN AFTER THE FACT, I'M ASKING WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THE FENCE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. WE'RE NOT SURE NECESSARILY IF IT WAS PERMITTED OR NOT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO. WE DIDN'T KNOW. HOWEVER, THERE WAS A FRONT WALL THAT SEEMED TO BE ENCROACHING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO, WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS REGARDING THAT.

RIGHT, AND I SAW THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES. SO, WITH ALL THIS PAVING THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, HOW DOES THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT FOR THE FRONT YARD IS OR IS NOT SATISFIED? SO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT.

THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT IS BEING PROPOSED DOES NOT REQUIRE A FULL LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE NUMBER OF TREES AND ET CETERA? NO, I WAS NOT MENTIONING THAT.

I WAS JUST REFERRING TO THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR DRAINAGE, NOT NECESSARILY THE PLANTING EVERYTHING, BUT JUST THE PERCENTAGE OF GO GREEN VERSUS PAVED. SO, IN THIS CASE THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENT AT ALL. AND DO THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT CASE? CORRECT, THAT IS ONE OF THE VARIANCES. IT IS REQUIRED PER CODE TO HAVE 70% WITHIN THE REAR YARD.

CORRECT. AND THEY'RE NOT MEETING THAT AT THE MOMENT.

THAT'S PART OF THE VARIANCE, INCLUDING THE LAW COVERAGE, NOT THE FRONT YARD. JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? IS THE APPLICANT IN PERSON OR THROUGH ZOOM? IS THE APPLICANT ON ZOOM? IF YOU ARE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

YES.

SO I SEE. I SEE THE MOSHI.

ARE YOU HERE? YES.

HEY, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.

THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START.

START THE PRESENTATION? YEAH.

MOSHE SISONKO, 1207 LENOX AVENUE, MIAMI BEACH, FL 33139.

I'M REPRESENTING MY MOTHER FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

MR. SASUNKO? YEAH. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD FOR ME OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK? THE REAL IDEA? I GUESS MAYBE JUST GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY WE ARE PUTTING THESE PAVERS IN THE BACK OVER HERE. AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE FENCE AS WELL. MY DAD HAD PASSED A FEW YEARS BACK AND MY MOM IS LIVING ALONE NOW. IN THAT AREA OF MIAMI BEACH, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST TWO-YEARS OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, A LOT OF VACANT HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BRINGING IN VAGRANTS AND OTHER ISSUES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND KNOCKING ON DOORS AND BREAKING DOORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, THIS IS REALLY MOSTLY ALL JUST AS A SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR MY MOTHER AS WELL AS WHEN WE COME OVER TO VISIT HER, WHICH WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE OFTEN NOW, WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PARK SAFELY NEXT TO THE HOME WITHIN THE HOME.

THAT WAS REALLY THE IDEA BEHIND THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU THAT I'VE SUBMITTED TO GISELLE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE PAVERS APPROVED IS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LEAVE OUR FRONT YARD COMPLETELY LANDSCAPED WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FUTURE. BEING THAT IT IS SO, SO LARGE WITH A 50-FOOT SETBACK, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD KIND OF SATISFY OR GET CLOSE TO SATISFYING THE. THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR.

FOR THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE.

OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. SUSAN. DO

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ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? OKAY.

WE WANT TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. COME ON UP, MEG.

MEG LISTO, MDPL. WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S APPROACH AT 1207 LENOX AVENUE. WE ARE PARTICULARLY PLEASED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO LOCATE THE PROPOSED PAVERS AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY RATHER THAN IN A MORE VISIBLE LOCATION.

THIS APPROACH BETTER PRESERVES THE HISTORIC CHARACTER AND LANDSCAPED APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS VIEWED FROM THE PRIMARY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. WE THANK THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR HER CONSIDERATION AND WILLINGNESS TO PURSUE A SOLUTION THAT ACCOMMODATES HER NEEDS WHILE REMAINING SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, MEG. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD WITH A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION PER THE CONDITIONS. IS IT ONE VARIANCE? AND THIS WOULD BE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE PERMEABILITY VARIANCE OF THE PERMEABILITY REQUIREMENTS.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

OUR NEXT ITEM HP 260-692-1141 145 SOUTH SHORE YES, THE NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS HB 260-692-1411 145

[5. HPB26-0692, 141–145 SOUTH SHORE DRIVE.]

IT DOES INTRODUCE A CUSTOM GEOMETRIC BREEZE BLOCK SCREEN AT THE UNDERSTORY TRUE PROJECTING TO TRAVERSING CLAD PIERS ON THE PRIMARY ELEVATION WHICH ALSO FEATURES A SCREEN. THERE'S BRONZE ALUMINUM WINDOWS AND RAILINGS THAT ARE DESIGNED IN A MID-CENTURY MODERN PROFILE WHICH WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED IN THE BOARD. THE ENTRANCE INCLUDES A RECESSED CENTRALLY LOCATED GLAZED LOBBY BENEATH THE PLANTED TERRACE.

THE LOBBY IS WIDENED CENTRAL STAIRCASE FROM A FRONT PORCH THAT EXTENDS ACROSS THE FRONTAGE.

CONTINUOUS SAGE GREEN EYEBROWS ARE PRESENTED AT EACH LEVEL WHICH LACKED IN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN. STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE REVISED DESIGN DID RESPOND TO THE BOARD'S DIRECTION. THE BOARD MEMBERS DID EXPRESS CONCERNS WITH THE BALCONY PROJECTIONS INTO THE REQUIRED SITE SETBACK SHOWN IN THE PLANS. THIS REVISED SET PROJECTING BALCONIES AT THE SECOND LEVEL REPLACES THE PROJECTING BALCONIES AT THE THIRD AND FOURTH LEVEL WITH THE JULIET BALCONIES.

STAFF CONTINUES TO RECOMMEND THAT ALL BALCONIES BE DESIGNED IN A MATTER TO A ALLOW THE USABLE OUTDOOR SPACE AS IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY MEET THIS COURTYARD WITHIN THE CENTRAL OF THE BUILDING. STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THE ENLARGEMENT OF THESE UPPER-LEVEL BALCONIES, THEREFORE RECOMMENDS THAT THE UPPER-LEVEL BALCONIES BE EXPANDED BEYOND WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED AND A CONDITION TO THE EFFECT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHED ORDER. WE ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THAT THEY ARE APPLYING FOR A WAIVER OF THE CLEARANCE OF THE UNDERSTORY FROM BASE ELEVATION PLUS A MINIMUM OF 11 FOOT OF FREEBOARD TO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE FIRST SLAB. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED ELEVATION SPACES AT THE UNDERSTORY. THEY CAN FUNCTION AS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE VESTIBULE WITH STAIRS, ELEVATOR, BICYCLE PARKING AND CAN FUN.

IT CAN'T NECESSARILY FUNCTION WITHIN THE LOWER HEIGHT IN THE EVENT THAT IT RAISES THE ADJACENT GRADES AND BECOMES NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE AND WITH THAT WE DO. DO YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS INCLUDING THE WAIVER? I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

UBER. AND YOU WERE SWORN IN ALREADY EARLIER.

OKAY, YES, I WAS HERE.

JUST GIVE US ONE THING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE APPLICANT? A QUICK QUESTION.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE BALCONY IS HOW FAR IS IT? 25% INTO THEIR REQUIRED SETBACK THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WITHIN THE SIDE YARD.

SORRY. YES, THE COACHES REQUIRE WITHIN THE SIDE YARD THAT THE MAXIMUM PROJECTION IS NO MORE THAN 25%.

OKAY, SO IT'S 10FT. SO, ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF FEET.

CORRECT.

OKAY, IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD.

SO, GOOD MORNING, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AGAIN. MY NAME IS EDDIE SEYMOUR. I AM THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WERE HERE ABOUT, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO AND WE RECEIVED YOUR COMMENTS. WE WROTE THEM ALL DOWN AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE ADDRESSED THEM.

SO LET ME JUST GO

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WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD A VERY NARROW, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE LIKE 4FT WIDE. WE'VE MADE IT NOW OVER 10FT WIDE AT THE FRONT. SO, WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT THERE AS WELL. AND WE'RE SHOWING THIS FRONT RENDERING HERE WHICH SHOWS YOU THAT CHANGE THAT WE MADE. ANOTHER COMMENT WAS THE FRONT STOREFRONT PANELS, WHICH WERE BEFORE, I BELIEVE, ABOUT THREE AND A HALF OR FOUR FEET WIDE. WE NOW MADE EACH ONE OF THEM FIVE FEET WIDE. SO, WE TRIED TO REDUCE THE CLUTTER IN THAT FRONT ENTRANCE. WE ALSO EXTENDED A CANOPY. WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD NO CANOPY OVER THE FRONT ENTRY, WE NOW EXTENDED THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER ON THIS VIEW HERE. WE EXTENDED THAT FRONT CANOPY TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FROM THE ELEMENTS AND ALSO MORE CLEARLY DEFINED THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE MAIN COMMENTS THAT WE HAD LAST TIME. WE ALSO REDESIGNED THE RAILINGS. THAT WAS A BIG ONE OF THE BIG COMMENTS THAT WE HAD AT THE LAST MEETING. THE RAILINGS DID NOT REALLY MEET THE. THE AESTHETIC OF THE MID-CENTURY MODERN.

SO, WE ACTUALLY GOT A REAL LIFE SAMPLE FOR YOU HERE, WHICH IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. SO, YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT WE TOOK OUR TIME TO REALLY TRY TO MAKE IT FIT MORE OF THAT MID-CENTURY DESIGN STYLE, AND WE IMPLEMENTED THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING AS WELL.

ANOTHER ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD WAS THE GLAZING.

THE GLAZING IN THE PREVIOUS RENDERINGS WAS TOO DARK AND AT LEAST SEVERAL OF YOU GUYS POINTED THAT OUT.

SO, WE CHANGED THE COLOR ON THE WINDOWS AND MADE THEM MORE OF A CLEAR GLASS INSTEAD OF A DARKER TINT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, WE ALSO REDESIGNED THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT A LITTLE BIT.

WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD A STEP TIER OF PLANTERS, NOW WE HAVE MORE OF A SLOPE THAT GOES UP TO THE FRONT PORCH, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT ALSO LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN BEFORE. AND IT MAKES IT APPEAR MORE USER FRIENDLY AND MORE COHESIVE WITH THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALSO. ANOTHER ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS THE STAIRWELLS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FRONT. IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS.

SO, WE DECIDED TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO THOSE STAIRWELLS.

WHEREAS NOW WE HAVE A. WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE MORE OF A NATURAL LEDGER PATTERN STONE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE DOWN HERE ON THE FLOOR. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE IT IN THE RENDERINGS AS WELL. AND TO ADD TO THAT, WE ALSO CHANGED THE STONE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING FOR THE BASE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. WE ARE PROPOSING A TRAVERTINE STONE.

WE ALSO HAVE A SAMPLE OF THAT ON THE FLOOR AS WELL. AND YOU CAN SEE IT HERE ON THE RENDERINGS WHERE IT WRAPS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BASE GROUND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING. ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS WAS THE SIDE BALCONIES, WHICH WERE ENCROACHING UP TO 25% IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT, WE DECIDED TO REDUCE ALL THE SIDE BALCONIES TO JUST BE JULIET BALCONIES AND NOT ENCROACH INTO THAT 25% SETBACK. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT BY THE RULES, BY THE CODE, WE DECIDED TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE ON THE RENDERING WHERE THE BALCONY IS ON THE SIDE ARE NOT ENCROACHING INTO THAT INTO THE SETBACK.

ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS WAS.

WELL, AN OVERALL COMMENT WAS THAT THE PREVIOUS DESIGN DID NOT REALLY MEET THE MID-CENTURY MODERN AESTHETIC. IT SEEMED TO BE CLUTTERED AND MORE OF A GENERIC DESIGN. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE PROVIDED VARIOUS RENDERINGS DURING DAYTIME, NIGHTTIME AND FROM VARIOUS ANGLES. TO TRY TO MAKE OUR CASE FOR HOW WE ADDRESS THAT COMMENT, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH A VISION THAT IS A LOT MORE SOOTHING TO THE MID-CENTURY MODERN DESIGN STYLE. WE INCORPORATED CURVED EYEBROWS. WE ALSO AROUND THE FACADES, WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL OF THAT STYLE. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTE. WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD COLORS THAT YOU GUYS REALLY DID NOT LIKE AT ALL, WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH COLORS THAT WE FELT WERE A LOT BETTER SUITED FOR THAT STYLE. SO,

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AND HERE WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER A MATERIAL BOARD WHERE WE BASICALLY TRY TO DESCRIBE ALL THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT WE APPLY TO THE BUILDING.

LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE APPLYING TRAVERTINE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. WE HAVE THE LAYER LIMESTONE PATTERN ON THE STAIRWELLS. WE HAVE THE BREEZE BLOCK PATTERN ON THE STAIRWELL FRONT. AND ALSO, ON THE SIDE OF THE GARAGE THAT THE SAGE GREEN, WHICH I MENTIONED, THE RAILING PATTERNS, AND ALSO THE VEGETATION THAT'S COMING OVER THE EDGE OF THE CANOPY THERE IN THE FRONT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT A MUCH BETTER FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALSO IMPLEMENTED THAT THAT ARE BEING DONE CURRENTLY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD APPROACH. SO, WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT MORE VEGETATION INTO THIS BUILDING AS WELL.

AND I BELIEVE THAT COVERS ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD LAST TIME. SO, I'LL. I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FROM THE BOARD? RAY, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB. YOU TOOK ALL OF OUR COMMENTS, AND YOU BROUGHT BACK A PROJECT THAT I THINK IS AMAZING AND WOULD.

WOULD BE A PLACE THAT I WOULDN'T MIND LIVING IN. I MEAN, REALLY, IT'S VERY NICE, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ON THAT. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE PART, PARKING. I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DETERMINE WHO GETS THE TANDEM PARKING SPACES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ECHO RAY'S COMMENTS. YOU REALLY RETURNED WITH A GREATLY IMPROVED DESIGN.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE CURVILINEAR EYEBROWS. I WAS TAKING NATION B RECTILINEAR. I THINK IT MIGHT ADD A LITTLE MORE CACHET TO YOUR PROJECT.

AND HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT WITH YOUR CLIENTS? SO, WE HAVEN'T, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE AN ITERATION OF THAT WITH THE RECTILINEAR EYEBROWS TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY, NOVICK. NO, NO QUESTION.

I'LL SAVE MY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. NICK, DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? NO. OKAY, SO WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MEG, COME ON UP. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? PJ, CAN YOU PROMOTE ME AS A PANELIST ON ZOOM? GO AHEAD, MEG.

GOOD MORNING. MEG LISTO. MDPL, WE APPRECIATE THE SENIOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REVISED DESIGN FOR 14145 SOUTH SHORE DRIVE AND THE FACT THAT THE ARCHITECT INCORPORATED MANY OF THE PUBLIC AND BOARD COMMENTS FROM THE JULY HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING. WE BELIEVE THE NEW PROPOSAL IS MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF NORMANDY ISLES. AND WE PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THE PROJECT'S MID-CENTURY MODERN VOCABULARY, STEPPED MASSING, OPEN AIR COURTYARD AND INCREASED ATTENTION TO LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE.

ONE AREA WE BELIEVE COULD BENEFIT FROM A BIT MORE REFINEMENT IS THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE BUILDING SIGNAGE IS FROM. PROPOSED.

IN CONTRAST TO THE LANDSCAPING ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL FOUND ELSEWHERE IN THE PROJECT, THIS AREA FEELS A LITTLE STARK AND UNRESOLVED. WE ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SOFTEN AND BETTER INTEGRATE THIS PORTION OF THE FRONTAGE INTO THE OVERALL DESIGN.

ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, A WATER FEATURE OR ANOTHER LANDSCAPE OR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT COULD PROVIDE VISUAL INTEREST AND BALANCE WHILE CREATING A MORE WELCOMING TRANSITION INTO THE PROPERTY. WE BELIEVE RELATIVELY MODEST CHANGES HERE CAN MAKE THE AREA FEEL MORE INTENTIONAL AND CONSISTENT WITH THE QUALITY OF THE REST OF THE DESIGN.

IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, THIS APPLICATION DOES RAISE A BROADER PRESERVATION CONCERN.

THE PROPOSAL INVOLVES THE DEMOLITION OF TWO CONTRIBUTING 1953 MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS AND THEIR REPLACEMENT WITH THE NEW 14-UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO FACE INCREASING DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE, MVPL BELIEVES PRESERVATION SHOULD INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF NOT ONLY HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE, BUT ALSO THE CITY'S NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SMALLER, OLDER MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS HAVE HISTORICALLY PROVIDED AN IMPORTANT SOURCE OF ORGANICALLY ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN MIAMI BEACH. THEIR INCREMENTAL LOSS CAN AFFECT BOTH THE PHYSICAL CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SOCIOECONOMIC DIVERSITY OF OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ENCOURAGE THE BOARD, STAFF AND APPLICANT TO CONSIDER CONTINUING OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESERVE EXISTING BUILDINGS WHERE FEASIBLE AND WHEN DEMOLITION IS UNAVOIDABLE.

TO RECOGNIZE THE LOSS OF NATURALLY AFFORDABLE.

NATURALLY OCCURRING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE BROADER CONVERSATION.

BUT OVERALL, MDPL SUPPORTS THE

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WERE YOU ABLE TO GET PROMOTED, MICHAEL? YES. AND THERE'S NOBODY WITH A HAND RAISED ON ZOOM.

OKAY, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

BOARD COMMENTARY. GO AHEAD.

YOU COULD ASK YOUR QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU'RE NOT.

MIC, PLEASE.

IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANY TREES ON THE STREETSCAPE? IT'S FACING SOUTH. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HOT.

SO, CURRENTLY THERE ARE EXISTING TREES ON THAT SIDE.

LET ME.

I KNOW. FOR THE RENDERING. YOU PROBABLY KEEP THEM OFF.

EXACTLY. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTING TREE THERE. I WISH I HAD AN IMAGE TO SHOW YOU.

BUT RIGHT IN FRONT. MORE OR LESS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S EXISTING TREE. SO, WE FIGURED THAT WOULD BE. PROVIDE ENOUGH SHADE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE SIDEWALK.

THE SIDEWALK OR THE ROAD? LIKE.

YEAH, LIKE JUST YOU SEE WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS HERE. IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN THE CENTER, BUT IT'S NEAR THE, THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU'D LIKE, YOU CAN USE THE MOUSE CURSOR ON THE COMPUTER. THAT MIGHT BE EASIER.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT UP SO YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER.

I JUST DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE EXISTING PHOTOS THAT SHOW THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT.

YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY IMPLEMENT.

OKAY.

WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO PROVIDE MORE TREES IN THE FRONT AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE UPDATED RENDERING AS WELL TO SHOW THEM.

THANK YOU.

CAN I PIGGYBACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS STAFF, WHEN THEY SEEK A PERMIT FOR THIS? YES. YES, THERE ARE.

OKAY.

SO, THEY WOULD.

YEAH, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY. IT'LL BE REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT. THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE STREET TREES.

OKAY.

I, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND A QUESTION. ONE, I, I THINK THE FRONT LOOKS VERY NICE. I HAVE MORE ISSUES WITH THE SIDES. I, I APPRECIATE YOU RESPONDING TO THE BALCONIES, BUT I AGREE WITH STAFF. I THINK HAVING AN UNINHABITABLE BALCONY JUST LOOKS LIKE A DECORATIVE THING. SO I MEAN, AND I RESPECT STAFF'S.

THE REST OF THE BOARD'S COMMENTS TO EXPLORE THIS OPTION, BUT I FEEL LIKE A DEEPER OVERHANG IS GOING TO HELP BREAK UP THE MASSING OF THAT. IT LOOKS A LITTLE GOLF COURSEY AND IT MIGHT JUST BE.

BE THE, THE WAY THAT THE RENDERINGS ARE DONE WITHOUT ANY CONTEXT. SO, I SEE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, OPEN THAT UP FOR BOARD CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

BUT A QUICK QUESTION. IT DOES LOOK LIKE THIS HOUSE EXISTS ON ITS OWN IN THE LANDSCAPE.

WHAT IS THE CONTEXT? LIKE WHAT IS NEXT TO THIS? SO NEXT TO THIS BUILDING THERE ARE TWO, TWO STORY BUILDINGS. AND I CAN GO BACK AND SHOW YOU. SO HERE WE HAVE THE IMAGES SHOWING THE CONTEXT. IF YOU LOOK HERE, I HAVE THE CURSOR NOW THAT IS THE BUILDING THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RIGHT SIDE, WHICH IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT LOCATION MAP BOTTOM RIGHT.

THAT'S IT, THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? RIGHT.

YEAH. YOU SEE WHERE I HAVE THE CURSOR GO TO THE OTHER SIDE ON THE BOTTOM.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHERE YOUR PROJECT WILL BE.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS OUR SITE. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU HAVE A TWO-STORY BUILDING AND SAME THING ON THE LEFT.

OKAY.

AND THEN NICK, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION FOR THE AFTER THE FACT COA FOR THE FPL AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT NEESON BROUGHT BEFORE US. WELL, A MONTH BEFORE LAST, I GUESS.

AND THAT'S I THINK TWO DOORS DOWN. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE.

THE TOP LEFT, THAT BLUE AND WHITE JUST. I REMEMBER LAST MONTH HAVING THE SAME QUESTION.

BUT HAVING HAD THAT PRESENT OR LAST TIME HAVING HAD THAT PRESENTATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE I COULD SEE THE CONTEXT.

BUT WITHOUT THAT AND ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S SUCH A NEW BUILDING, I THINK IT'S SITTING IN THAT EMPTY LOT RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US THERE'S THIS SIX-STORY BUILDING RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

JUST IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THESE RENDERINGS TO SEE LIKE HOW THIS. BECAUSE THIS APPEARS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE BUILDINGS NEXT TO IT, I THINK. IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE LIKE A SITE PLAN.

YEAH.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS TALLER, BUT WE ARE GOING UP TO 40FT WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED. I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO-STORY BUILDINGS ARE AROUND 20, 25FT TALL.

YOU ALSO DO HAVE THAT STEP BACK AT THE FRONT. RIGHT. SO, YOU HAVE THE TWO STORIES ABOVE THE PARKING AT THE FRONT AND THEN IT STEPS BACK

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CORRECT.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ACTUALLY IT'S BOARD COMMENTARY REALLY.

DISCUSSION? NO, IF I MAY JUST WANT TO MAKE LIKE ONE, TWO GENERAL COMMENTS THAT. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADDRESSED ONLY TO YOU, BUT IN GENERAL I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A. THE SURROUNDINGS OF A BUILDING RENDERING, THEY EITHER NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT ACCURATE OR MAYBE NOT HAVE THEM AT ALL BECAUSE THAT'S VERY MISLEADING TO SEE THIS BUILDING SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS VERY LARGE LAWN AREA, WHICH IS NOT ACCURATE AT ALL.

SO, I WOULD PREFER NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAN SEEING SOMETHING THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE REALITY. AND THE OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WHEN YOU BRING BACK A NEW DESIGN TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME REFERENCE OF THE OLD DESIGN. SO, TO HELP US UNDERSTAND AND HOW MUCH THE DRAWING HAS IMPROVED.

SO, WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU GUYS HATED THE LAST ONE SO MUCH THAT WE FIGURED.

NO, BUT I THINK I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAD THE OLD ONE HERE SO YOU COULD COMPARE AND SEE HOW MUCH BETTER THE DESIGN BECAME. SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS IN IMPROVING THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY NICE NOW AND I AGREE WITH NICK. THAT WILL BE GOOD. I THINK TO BRING THEM THE DEEPER BALCONIES ON. ON THE SIDE.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE LAST MEETING OF NOT ENCROACHING THE SIDE BACK IN THE SITE SETBACK, BUT I THINK WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR THE UNITS AND THE TOTAL OVERALL LOOKING TO HAVE THE DEEPER BALCONIES THERE.

OKAY, SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. HASKELL WHO HAD THAT COMMENT AND HE SAID HE WOULD NEVER SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS LONG AS THE BALCONIES WERE ENCROACHING INTO THE 25%. SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE TOOK THAT COMMENT SO TO HEART AND WE MADE THE CHANGES.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE STILL FEELS THAT WAY OR IF HE'S WILLING TO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO HASKELL. HE'S NOT HERE.

HE'S NOT HERE. SO, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTARY. OKAY, SO ELIZABETH. STOLE MY THUNDER, I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND THIS IS NOT A CRITIQUE BY ANY MEANS, BUT MORE KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANYBODY WHO COMES BEFORE US, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTING LIKE SIDE BY SIDE. BECAUSE I PULLED IT UP BECAUSE I HAD A VAGUE RECOLLECTION OF IT. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE STEPS THAT YOU TOOK TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GAVE INTO CONSIDERATION AND COME BACK WITH WHAT I THINK IS A MUCH LIKE IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. AND SO, I THINK SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE STARK IF WE SAW THEM SIDE BY SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS DOING OVER HERE. I PULLED UP THE AGENDA ONLINE AND THAT'S WHAT ELIZABETH WAS LOOKING AT. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE COMMENTS. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A REALLY WONDERFUL JOB HERE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT MDPL WAS SUGGESTING REGARDING THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

HOWEVER, I WAS LOOKING AT THE SIGN AND HAD, I DON'T KNOW, A FEELING ABOUT IT THAT SOMETHING COULD BE DIFFERENT.

SO, WHATEVER THAT IS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DICTATE IN OUR ORDER TODAY, BUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUICK FOLLOW UP ABOUT THE SIGN? OF COURSE.

I NOTICED ONE OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS BEFORE US. IS THIS SIGN MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIZE AND PROPORTION? IT LOOKS LIKE IT, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT SORT OF TIED TO THE DESIGN THAT WE APPROVE HERE? NO, NO, THE SIGN IS SEPARATE.

THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE ASKING, NOT ASKING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL FOR THE SIGN TODAY. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION SINCE IT IS A BLANK WALL. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY COME IN FOR THE SIGN PERMIT.

DO WE NEED JUST ONE MOTION FOR THIS.

YES, BECAUSE THERE'S NO VARIANCES. SO, ONE MOTION CAN INCLUDE THE WAIVER AS WELL AS THE DEMOLITION. AND THEN ALSO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO, WE DID MENTION THE BALCONIES IN THE STAFF REPORT. IN TERMS OF ALLOWING MORE PROJECTION, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE FINAL ORDER. SO IF ANYBODY MAKES A MOTION AND WANTS TO INCLUDE THOSE BALCONIES, THE GREATER ALLOWANCE. PLEASE INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.

DOES THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE GREATER BALCONIES, ASSUMING THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO SUGGEST THAT, DOES THAT REQUIRE ANY SORT OF VARIANCE OR. NO, NO.

JUST WANTED TO CHECK THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE ALLOWABLE 25%.

THANK YOU.

JUST NOTE TOO. SO, I THINK TO HELP MITIGATE THAT IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE THE BALCONIES, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE OF A RECESS OR THE BUILDING IS SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY SET BACK, MORE, MORE THAN THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO, IT'S,

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IT'S, IT'S MITIGATED BY THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK IN THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I AGREE.

I BELIEVE THOSE BALCONIES SHOULD HAVE GREATER DEPTH.

PERHAPS WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT.

DO MY COLLEAGUES FEEL THE SAME? I DO. YEAH, I AGREE.

I AGREE.

DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE EYEBROWS AGAIN? I LOOKED AT THIS AND I, I THOUGHT THE PROJECT WOULD BE MORE EXPRESSIVE WITH SOMETHING WITH STRAIGHT PLANES AS A. AS OPPOSED TO THAT CURVILINEAR DESIGN.

I'M OF THE OPINION.

I PERSONALLY LIKE THE EYEBROWS THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO LISTEN TO.

I LIKE THEM AS. AS IS, BUT I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD LEAVE THAT TO STAFF. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST STAFF DIFFERING OP.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE EYEBROWS LOOK FINE AS THEY ARE. I THINK MAYBE THE BALCONIES COULD HAVE THE ANGULAR PROJECTION. I DON'T THINK THE BALCONIES NEED TO HAVE. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE BALCONIES, YOU KNOW, COME OUT TO THE MAXIMUM PROJECTION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THE CURVED, HAVE THE CURVED EDGES AND KEEP THE, KEEP THE, THE EYEBROW ON THE TOP, YOU KNOW.

SO, ARE YOU SUGGESTING SOMETHING MORE RECTILINEAR? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE RAILINGS.

THAT'S TRUE. IT COULD BE HARDER TO DO THE RAILINGS WITH A. BUT THEN THAT WOULD ONLY REALLY APPLY TO THE, THE BALCONIES AND NOT THE, NOT THE WORKSHOP.

JUST A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

ARE WE.

DO WE.

DO WE. IF WE APPROVE THIS AS IS AND IT SHOWS RADIUS CORNERS.

CAN THEY MAKE IT RECTILINEAR IF HE AND THE OWNER WANT TO DO THAT, OR IS THAT, LIKE, TIED TO THE DESIGN? IT'S NOT REALLY TIED UNLESS THE BOARD REALLY EXPRESSLY SAYS THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE CURVILINEAR, YOU KNOW, CORNERS. IT'S NOT EXPRESSLY TIED TO THE DESIGN THAT WE CONSIDER A MINOR MODIFICATION.

OKAY.

BUT I THINK IF THE BOARD. IF THE BOARD WANTS TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN. WE CAN. YOU GUYS CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF YOUR CONDITIONS.

I MEAN, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR THE BALCONY. AS AN ARCHITECT, I LIKE TO LEAVE SOME CREATIVITY UP TO YOU. YOU TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY.

THEY HAVE A NICE KIND OF STREAMLINED QUALITY. I KNOW OTHER MIMA BUILDINGS HAVE RECTANGULAR OVERHANGS. I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SO, IF I MAY LEAVE THAT TO THE CREATIVITY OF THE APPLICANT TO STUDY THE SQUARE EYEBROWS VERSUS THE ROUND ONE AND MAKE A DECISION.

AND SINCE THAT'S A SMALL MODIFICATION, THEN THEY COULD ADDRESS THAT WITH STAFF.

ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THAT A MOTION? THIS WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION FOR ALL MY BOARD FELLOW CONCATRIATES HERE THAT WE GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE APPLICANT AND LET HIM STUDY BOTH OPTIONS AND MAKE A DECISION WITH STAFF. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH ME.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE DEMOLITION AND VARIANCE WAIVER.

I'M SORRY.

DOES THAT INCLUDE A CONDITION REGARDING HAVING THEM EXPAND THE. THE BALCONIES AT THE SECOND AND THIRD LEVEL? YES, TO THE. THE MAXIMUM PROJECTION ALLOWED.

AND THE SHAPE OF THE BALCONIES WILL BE UP TO STAFF, TOO.

APPROVE.

OKAY.

AND PROJECTIONS OR EYEBROWS.

CORRECT. GOT IT.

YEAH.

ANY SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

MR. NOVICK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

WHILE THEY'RE BREAKING THAT DOWN, I'LL READ

[6. HPB26-0695, 736 COLLINS AVENUE.]

THANK YOU.

IS HPB 2606-95 FOR 736 COLLINS AVENUE. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION, RENOVATION, AND RESTORATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, INCLUDING A NEW STOREFRONT FACILITY, SIDE CLADDING, PROJECTING ENTRANCE FEATURE SIGNAGE, AN INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT OF THE PARAPET AND ROOFTOP ELEMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEW ROOF DECK, AND THE PLACEMENT OF A SCULPTURE WITHIN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD.

THE APPLICATION INCLUDES VARIANCES TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED PROJECTION OF A ROOF OVERHANG INTO THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK FOR THE PROJECTING ENTRANCE FEATURE AND TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIGN AREA JUST A SECOND. SO, THIS THE EXISTING PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1921 IN THE MASONRY VERNACULAR STYLE.

THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERESTING COMMENTARY ON THE BUILDING CAR WHERE INITIALLY IT WAS CALLED OUT AS A TWO-STORY BUILDING.

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SO, WE DO THINK IT WAS EITHER CONSTRUCTED ORIGINALLY AS THREE STORIES OR THE THIRD STORY WAS ADDED SHORTLY AFTER CONSTRUCTION. THIS APPLICATION DOES PROPOSE TO PUT BACK THE THREE STORIES.

BACK IN THE 90S A RENOVATION OCCURRED THAT REMOVED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FLOORS TO MAKE A HIGHER VOLUMETRIC SPACE. AS PART OF THE RECONSTRUCTION, THE FLOOR PLATES ARE ADDING SLIGHTLY TO THE TO THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING BY EXTENDING ABOUT THREE FEET UP TO HAVE A HIGHER FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHTS IN THE THIRD FLOOR. ALTHOUGH THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CLAD THE BUILDING IN A KEYSTONE FINISH RIGHT NOW THE BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS. NOT PROPOSING TO REMOVE ANY DETAILS. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE A LARGER SIGN THAT WAS NORMALLY ALLOWED.

THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE HOWEVER IS BASED UPON A RECTANGULAR BOX AROUND IT. SO, IT'S NOT REALLY AS LARGE AS WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SEEMS. WE DO THINK THAT THIS AREA OF COLLINS IS IN NEED OF SOME HELP IN TERMS OF RETAIL STOREFRONTS LIKE THIS. WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION INCLUDING THE VARIANCES FOR THE PROJECTION AS WELL AS FOR THE OVERALL DESIGN AND THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. AND LASTLY, THESE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS ARE EASILY REVERSIBLE. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING OR TO MAKE CHANGES THAT WOULD BASICALLY DESTROY THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. SO, IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE VERY SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN AS WELL AS THE VARIANCES.

BUT I'VE TURNED OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. I'M DANIEL FROM NATIONAL PERMIT GROUP FROM LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA.

FIRST, I WANTED TO. JUST BEFORE WE START, I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL GUIDING US AND HELPING US ALONG THE WAY WITH PROCESSING IN MIAMI BEACH. IF ANYBODY EVER COMPLAINS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF MIAMI BEACH, PLEASE SEND THEM TO CALIFORNIA. I'D LOVE TO SHOW THEM WHAT PERMITTING REALLY LOOKS LIKE THERE. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. BUT I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH MIAMI BEACH. AS MICHAEL COVERED, WE ARE PART OF THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD TEAM. THIS IS A HIGH-END RETAIL STORE. WE ARE TODAY APPLYING FOR THREE VARIANCES. TWO OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH THE ROOF CANOPY IN THE FRONT. ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THE SIGNAGE, THE ROOF CANOPY, THE SIDE PROJECTION. THE ALLOWABLE PROJECTION ON THE SIDE THAT WE ARE PROJECTING. EXCUSE ME.

WHAT IS ALLOWED IS 1.25%. AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASKING WHICH IS ONE FOOT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL FOOT IN TOTAL OF 2.25FT. AND TO THE SIDE, THE FRONT CANOPY, WE ARE ASKING FOR ALTOGETHER 7.5 FROM WHAT IS ALLOWED FROM THE PROJECTION INTO THE FRONT YARD, INTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING RIGHT OFF THE. RIGHT OFF THE SETBACK, GIVING A TOTAL OF 10-FOOT COVERAGE. THE SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH IS THE THIRD VARIANCE, IS THE ALLOWABLE SIGNAGE FOR THIS BUILDING IS 40 SQUARE FEET. WE ARE ASKING FOR 284 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE. IT IS A LOT. YES. AND THAT INCLUDES NOT JUST THE NEON SIGN OF VIVIAN WESTWOOD THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE RENDERINGS, BUT IT ALSO COVERS THE BRASS SIGNAGE ON THE SIDES OF THE CANOPY AS WELL AS THE MOTIFS THAT ARE ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AND FRONT OF THE CANOPY AS WELL AS ALL THE WINDOWS AND THE DOOR HANDLES THAT WE USE AS THE LOGO FOR THE MOTIF THAT WE'RE USING.

THOSE ARE THE VARIANCES. THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE CLADDED ALL WITHIN FLORIDA LIMESTONE. AND TO KIND OF GIVE IT THAT NICE FINISH.

WE HAVE THE SAME, VERY SIMILAR LOCATION LIKE THAT IN MELROSE IN LOS ANGELES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BRASS FINISHES ON AROUND THE WINDOWS TO KIND OF REALLY GIVE THIS ELEGANT LOOK FOR THE HIGH-END RETAIL STORE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY.

OKAY, THANK YOU. BEFORE WE ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, NOW ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD, MITCH.

CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THESE CANOPIES THAT ARE LIT? YES.

SURROUNDED BY BRASS AND WHAT'S THAT MATERIAL THAT'S TRANSLUCENT? RIGHT NOW, WE ARE EXPLORING DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE ONE IN NEW YORK IS A TRANSLUCENT.

IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING PIECE. IT'S LIKE A PANEL. IT'S LIKE AN LED-PANELS THEY USE AND IT HAS THIS, THAT TRANSLUCENT KIND OF MATERIAL THAT WRAPS IT. WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER MATERIALS TO USE MOST PROBABLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE JUST LIKE WE HAVE IN OUR NEW YORK CITY LOCATION TO LIGHT UP THE. THE CANOPY THERE.

IT'S AN ACRYLIC PANEL.

YES, YES. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

ACRYLIC PANELS. YES. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, BY THE WAY, WHY WE DO NEED A AWNING LIKE THAT IS BECAUSE VIVIAN

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DO YOU WANT TO BRING UP THE PRESENTATION? I THINK YOU DID SUBMIT A PRESENTATION, RIGHT? SO, I THINK MAYBE YOU WANT TO BRING THAT UP.

OH YES, I APOLOGIZE. YES, THAT, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT. I GUESS VIVIAN WESTWOOD IS A DESIGNER.

VIVIAN WESTWOOD IS A, IS A.

YES, YES. SHE, SHE PASSED AWAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SHE IS A DESIGNER BASED OUT OF LONDON.

AND WHAT'S THE CONCEPT OF THE STORE? WHAT ARE YOU TOUTING? WHAT ARE YOU SELLING? THEY SELL HIGH END COUTURE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, DAY-TO-DAY CLOTHES ONE WOULD SAY. AND ALSO, THEIR, THEIR BIGGEST ASSET IS THEIR BRIDAL. THEY HAVE A VERY BIG BRIDAL, VERY, VERY BIG BRIDAL LINE. VIVIAN WESTWOOD, THEIR MAIN STORE WHEN IT FIRST STARTED WAS.

WHAT WAS IT? IT WAS SEX, ROCK AND ROLL.

THAT PUNK, SHE WAS A VERY BIG PUNK DESIGNER, AND SHE REALLY SHAPED A LOT OF THE FASHION IN THE FASHION WORLD WHEN IT CAME TO THAT KIND OF AVANT GARDE.

IN MANY OF THEIR STORES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE BACKWARDS CLOCKS WHICH IS A MOTIF THAT THEY USE. THEY HAVE THESE, THEY HAVE A VERY IMMERSIVE TYPE OF STORE, SO TO SAY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DESIGNING A VERY LARGE ORB IN, IN THE FRONT AND THE SIGNAGE THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED BECAUSE THE VIVIAN WEST WOULD CONSIDER CONSUMER TENDS TO LOVE A PHOTO OP TYPE OF MOMENT. WE SEE THAT IN SHANGHAI, IN OUR SHANGHAI LOCATION, THERE'S A MASSIVE ORB THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO AND SIT INSIDE TO BE KIND OF INTERACTIVE WITH IT. IN PARIS, OUR VIVIAN WESTWOOD SIGN OVER THERE, THEY WENT AHEAD AND TOOK THE STREET POST AND PUT THE BACKWARDS VIVIAN WESTWOOD CLOCK ON IT SHOWING THE STREET SIGN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STORE. SO, CREATING THAT MOMENT FOR THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD WITH CONSUMER IS QUITE IMPORTANT FOR THE STORE.

OKAY.

THE LIGHTING WITHIN THE CANOPIES, THAT'S LED OF SOFT.

YEAH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE IT HAS TO. YEAH, OF COURSE. I DON'T, I WOULDN'T DESIGN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, OVER 3,000 K AND YEAH, YOU HAVE TO TWIST MY ARM FOR THAT ONE TOO.

I, I HEAR, HEARING YOU OF COURSE.

YES, GO AHEAD.

NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN COMPARE YOUR SIGN TO SIGNAGE ON OCEAN DRIVE INSTEAD OF ON COLLINS AVENUE.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE, THE WHAT WOULD BE. WE EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD CONSIDER NEON EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE. AND THE OTHER THING IS ON YOUR SECOND FLOOR PLAN YOU HAVE FOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICES ALL WITH BATHROOMS AND CLOSETS.

RIGHT, THAT SCREAMS A STUDIO APARTMENT TO ME.

I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP.

ACTUALLY.

WE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, WITH THE, WITH THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD TEAM ABOUT THIS. THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD WANTS TO MAKE THEIR FLORIDA LOCATION THEIR LIKE, I GUESS, HEADQUARTERS IN THIS, IN A SENSE OF SOUTH AMERICAN MARKET. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXECUTIVES THAT FLY IN AND OUT. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AS AN APARTMENT, BUT THEY ALL LIKE THEIR PRIVACY FOR THEIR BATHROOMS WITH THEIR OFFICES AND THEIR MEETINGS.

I'VE, I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS MYSELF IN THEIR LOS ANGELES LOCATION.

EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING, IT'S IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL OFFICES.

AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO SHARE BATHROOMS. SO THEY'RE VERY PICKY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN SPACE, OWN OFFICE AND THEIR OWN CLOSET.

IN THEIR OWN CLOSET. THE CLOSETS THEY USUALLY USE FOR SAMPLES OF CLOTHES.

IT'S A HOTEL ROOM FOR THEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD, RANDY.

IS THE GRAPHIC. THAT'S THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD SIGN, WHICH I HAVE TO AGREE IS HUGE. IS THAT THEIR LOGO? THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF LOGOS.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM. THIS IS ONE OF THEM THAT THEY USE? YES. IN LOS ANGELES YOU FIND THIS EXACT TYPE OF SCRIPT OF VIVIAN WESTWOOD.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, I HAVE TO AGREE WHEN I SEE THE PICTURE OF THE AERIAL YOU HAVE OF THE STREETSCAPE, THIS IS BY FAR GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST SIGN OF ANY BUILDING ALONG THERE.

AND FROM A PEDESTRIAN POINT OF VIEW, IT WON'T EVEN BE VISIBLE. YOUR CANOPY BASICALLY HIDES IT FROM PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK. THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE TWO AT EACH END WITH WHICH WOULD BE VERY VISIBLE. IT JUST SEEMS REALLY EXCESSIVE COMPARED TO WHAT'S PERMITTED. IT SEEMS

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OKAY.

RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I HAVE A GOOD QUESTION. THE, THE, THE VARIANCE FROM THE FRONT YARD PROJECTION, IT ASKS FOR 10. IT SAYS 10FT IS PROPOSED, BUT SITE PLAN SHOWS AN 11 FOOT.

RIGHT. SO.

YEAH, YEAH. SO, SO I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN THAT THE 10FT IS ACTUALLY MEASURED FROM THE, FROM THE SETBACK. AND THIS, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS RECESSED ONE FOOT BACK. SO IT'S ALTOGETHER 11FT. BUT THE SETBACK IS 10.

EXCUSE ME? IT'S COUNTED FROM THE SETBACK.

SO BRING IT TO 10. BUT IT DOESN'T PASS OUR PROPERTY LINE.

IT STAYS WITHIN OUR BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING SO STAFF, THE FRONT YARD IS A 20-FOOT SETBACK.

10 FT.

OH, IT'S 10FT? YEAH.

BUILDING IS SET BACK A FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY. SO, THE BUILDING SET BACK 11.

CORRECT.

PROJECTS 11.

OKAY, SO HOW DEEP. THE. THE FRONT OVERHANG COULD BE WITHOUT REQUIRING ANY THREE AND A HALF, THREE AND A HALF FEET.

SO THEY ACTUALLY. THREE AND A HALF FROM THE 10 OR FROM THE 11 FROM THE BUILDING. OKAY, SO NOW.

SO, THE CODE DOES ALLOW A, LIKE A TRADITIONAL CANVAS AND PIPE SORT OF ENTRANCE FEATURE TO THIS.

TO THE SIDEWALK LEVEL. RIGHT.

BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOW. IT DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE THESE SOLID STRUCTURES THAT GO TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THERE, THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR THESE TYPES OF STRUCTURES IN THE FRONT FOR RAIN PROTECTION, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE.

THAT THEY'RE SHOWING.

AND MICHAEL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THE CANVAS AND PIPE IS JUST SO THAT IF PUBLIC WORKS NEEDED TO TAKE SOMETHING DOWN AND ACCESS SOMETHING.

RIGHT. BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT GOING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO, THEY DON'T NEED A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO, IT'S SORT OF. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH A CANVAS AND PIPE. IT'S SORT OF A HYBRID.

AND LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE A011. A011, IT SHOWS THE KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER. I KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS.

IT SHOULD BE OPEN TO THE SKY, BUT IT'S JUST A PAVED SLAB AT THE MOMENT. THE ENTIRE FRONT YARD. ARE THERE NO PERMEABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT? SHOULD I SAY AGAIN, IT LOOKS LIKE THE FRONT YARD IS JUST.

I THINK IT'S A TERRAZZO.

IT'S JUST A PAVED.

I THINK IT'S A TERRAZZO WITH THE STREET NUMBER IN IT, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

BUT THERE'S NO LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.

WELL, THERE IS. SO, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT. THEY DID SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE, A LANDSCAPE PLAN.

WE ARE ASKING THEM TO IMPROVE THE LANDSCAPING ALONG, ALONG THE SIDES, THE SIDE YARDS. SO, THEY DO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT REQUIREMENT. WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO MODIFY WHAT'S THERE IN FRONT BASED UPON THE CANOPY THAT THEY'RE APPROVING THAT THEY'RE INSTALLING RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO, YOU WOULD ONLY ASK AS A, AS A CONDITION, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR PERMEABILITY IN THE FRONT.

NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT TOOK US, IT TOOK US A WHILE AS WELL TO. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND I AGREE, MAYBE IT WAS A SHOCK AT FIRST TO SEE THE SIGN AND AS WE MET WITH THEM MORE AND, YOU KNOW, SAW THE BUILDING AND SAW, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT HAD BEEN BEFORE WE BECAME COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE SITE TO REALLY MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S A STATEMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL ALSO ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO COME TO THE AREA AS WELL. SO, WE DO THINK THIS IS LIKE A CATALYST FOR.

FOR THE. FOR THE AREA.

THANK YOU.

WE. WE ARE ALSO BRINGING THE BUILDING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE THREE STORIES BACK IN 1921. AND THE BRIDAL SECTION IS GOING TO BE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND THE SECOND FLOOR IS GOING TO BE THE EXECUTIVE OFFICES, AND THE GROUND FLOOR WILL BE THE RETAIL STORE.

I ADD TO IT IS IT IS CHALLENGING TO TAKE AN OLDER BUILDING LIKE THIS AND TRANS TRANSFORM IT INTO A, YOU KNOW, RETAIL STRUCTURE. OR ORIGINALLY, THESE OPENINGS AT THE FRONT PROBABLY WERE SLEEPING PORCHES. SO, IT WOULD HAVE HAD, LIKE, SCREENS AND SORT OF LOUVERED, IF YOU CAN SEE IT. I THINK WE PROVIDED AN IMAGE FROM THE 1930S OR 40S. THEY SHOWED PROBABLY WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY WITH THE LOOP, THE SHUTTERS AND SCREEN PORCHES. SO, IT'S REALLY HARD TO ADAPTIVELY USE THIS BUILDING THAT'S MORE HEAVY MASONRY TO A RETAIL STOREFRONT. SO, WE THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING OR DEMOLISH THE FRONT. SO, I DO THINK IT IS A GOOD INTERVENTION. AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S ALSO COMPLETELY REVERSIBLE. SOMEONE COULD COME IN IN THE FUTURE AND TAKE OFF THE MATERIAL. THEY'RE NOT JUST DESTROYING ANY MATERIAL.

THEY'RE NOT DESTROYING ANY SORT OF DETAILS. SO, WE DO THINK THAT'S. IT'S LIKE A RISK WE THINK THAT IS WORTHWHILE TO TAKE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK, IS THE SCULPTURE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE FRONT, IS THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION? THAT'S A FUNNY THING. SO, I DIDN'T KNOW. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 20 SOME YEARS AND DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IN THE CODE, THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR THE MXE DISTRICT TO HAVE SCULPTURES IN THE FRONT YARD SUBJECT TO HPB APPROVAL. SO, I DON'T RECALL ANY OTHER PROJECT HAVING COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR THAT TYPE OF ISSUE.

BUT IT'S BEEN IN THE CODE FOR A LONG TIME. JUST I DIDN'T

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THIS ORB, WHICH IS A SCULPTURE IN THE FRONT YARD.

ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. QUICK QUESTION. THOSE CANOPIES, THEY ARE LIKE A LIGHTWEIGHT METHYL STRUCTURE THAT WHEN YOU LEAVE THE BUILDING WHENEVER THE STORE LIVES, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST DISASSEMBLE AND THE BUILDING IS BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL INTEGRITY.

THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

SO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. IS IT FOUR DIFFERENT PIECES OF SIGNAGE? LIKE, IS THE ORB SIGNAGE? NO, NO, WE'RE CONSIDERED THE SCULPTURE, AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THEIR OVERALL.

OKAY, SO THREE PIECES.

THE SIGNAGE ACTUALLY IS. IS MULTIPLE. IT'S THE TWO SIDES.

ON THE SIDES.

RIGHT.

THE MOTIF YOU HAVE IN THE FRONT, THE PINK.

NO.

OH, NO, THIS. OH, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

HERE, THIS MOTIF UP HERE AND THE VIVIAN WESTWOOD SIGN THERE.

THOSE TWO SIGNS. THE EMBLEM ON THE DOOR, AS WELL AS EVERY WINDOW. WE'RE PUTTING A LITTLE EMBLEM.

OKAY.

OF THE ORB AS WELL.

OKAY.

AS TO THE PINK, VIVIAN WESTWOOD, CAN YOU TELL US THE DIMENSIONS? LIKE WHAT, WHAT THE DIMENSION IS? 20. WELL, THE OVERALL WIDTH AND HEIGHT. ABOUT 10 BY 20.

10 BY 20. OKAY, THANK YOU.

BY 20FT? YEAH.

AND THEN I UNDERSTAND ON THE RECORD WHAT YOU GUYS.

SO, YOU. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE AWNING IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE CANOPY COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE AND. BECAUSE YOU GUYS.

BUT VIVIAN WESTWOOD LIMITS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTO THE STORES. SO, WHAT PROCEDURES DOES VIVIAN WESTWOOD HAVE IN PLACE TO MANAGE THOSE QUEUES? I JUST.

I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA.

WHEN YOU SAY LINES, IT MAKES ME NERVOUS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, A MASSIVE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

SO, EVERY STORE, DEPENDING ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND DEPENDING ON ACTUALLY, LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE STORES AND THE SEASON, BECAUSE IT'S SEASONAL. RIGHT.

SO, ON AVERAGE, YOU HAVE ABOUT 250 TO 300 PEOPLE PER DAY THAT COME THROUGH THE STORES.

THAT'S DURING HOLIDAY SEASON, IT'S ABOUT 500, 550, 600.

DURING THE HOLIDAYS, WHEN THEY COME IN, YOU HAVE.

BASED OFF OF THAT, THEY BRING IN ASSOCIATES, SALES ASSOCIATES. SO, YOU'LL HAVE 10. YOU'LL HAVE BETWEEN FIVE TO 10 ASSOCIATES PER. PER SEASON. AND AS PEOPLE WAIT IN LINE, ONCE THE LINE GETS TO EIGHT GUESTS, THEN THEY START BRINGING THEM IN AND ALLOWING THEM TO BROWSE UNTIL AN ASSOCIATE FINDS THEM.

BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, VIVIAN LIKES. I MEAN, THE IDEA OF A LINE IS ALWAYS APPEALING, BUT YET THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A CHAOS OR LIKE A PARTY BASICALLY WAITING OUTSIDE.

OKAY.

SO, THEY. THEY NEED TO. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, BASICALLY.

OKAY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW IT'S MANAGED. ONE AND TWO. I MEAN, TO A DEGREE, WE'RE A UNIQUE MARKET IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S REALLY HOT OUTSIDE, REGARDLESS OF SHADE OR COVERAGE. AND SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES NO.

OKAY, SO WE CAN OPEN FOR PUBLIC MEETING. MEG, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? THERE'S NOBODY ONLINE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

MEG LISTO, MDPL. BIG VIVIAN WESTWOOD FAN. NOT. NOT HER MARKET. UNFORTUNATELY. THIS ISN'T PART OF HER FORMAL COMMENTS, BUT I JUST HAVE AN OBSERVATION.

BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST SHARED, IS THERE NOT A REQUIREMENT IN CITY CODE THAT THERE BE ACCOMMODATIONS WITHIN BUILDINGS FOR QUEUES? IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM INSIDE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE ON THAT, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS NEW.

THIS WASN'T PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE REVIEWED, SO THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL QUESTION. BUT BACK TO OUR POSITION. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED RESTORATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF 736 COLLINS AVENUE FOR THE NEW VIVIAN WESTWOOD FLAGSHIP STORE. WE COMMEND THE APPLICANT AND DESIGN TEAM FOR AN EXCEPTIONALLY THOUGHTFUL PROJECT THAT DEMONSTRATES HOW A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT INTERNATIONAL BRAND CAN ESTABLISH A DISTINCTIVE PRESENCE IN SOUTH BEACH WHILE EMBRACING RATHER THAN OVERWHELMING THE HISTORIC BUILDING IT WILL OCCUPY. THE RESTORATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THIS 1921 CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, TOGETHER WITH THE CAREFUL USE OF LIMESTONE, BRASS, ROUGH AND ELEMENTS AND OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, REPRESENTS THE TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT MVP IS PLEASED TO SEE ALONG COLLINS AVENUE.

WE ALSO WELCOME VIVIAN WESTWOOD'S INVESTMENT IN THIS PORTION OF COLLINS AVENUE AND BELIEVE PROJECTS BE WOULD OF THIS QUALITY CAN CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO THE CONTINUED REVITALIZATION OF THIS HISTORIC COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. OUR ONE CONCERN IS THE SCALE OF THE PROPOSED VIVIAN WESTWOOD SIGNATURE SIGN ON THE PRIMARY FACADE. TOTAL PROPOSED SIGNAGE IS AROUND 284 SQUARE FEET AGAINST A 100 SQUARE FOOT DISTRICT CAP.

WITH THE NEON ALONE AROUND 200 SQUARE FEET. MORE THAN TWICE THE PERMITTED SIZE, THE SIGNAGE BEGINS TO OVERPOWER THE HISTORIC FACADE RATHER THAN COMPLEMENT IT. WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE CREATIVITY AND CHARACTER OF THE PERFORMANCE POST SIGNAGE, WE ENCOURAGE THE

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THANKS.

THANK YOU. AND STILL NO ONE ON ZOOM.

NOBODY WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.

OKAY, SO, BOARD COMMENTARY, RIGHT? WELL, I'D LOVE TO SEE A PLANTER ON EACH SIDE OF THE DOOR JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE GREENERY THERE, BUT HONESTLY, TO RECEIVE MY VOTE TODAY, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE OFF THE PINK SIGN AND MAYBE BRING IT BACK ANOTHER TIME. BUT I WOULD VOTE NO IF THAT'S PART OF THE PART.

ONE MORE TIME. THE PINK SIGN, MEANING THE IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE TAKE THAT, WE TAKE THAT PART OFF AND SONNY MAKES A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION, AND EVERYBODY VOTES FOR THE BUILDING, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IF THE SIGN STAYS IN, MY VOTE WOULD BE NO.

OKAY.

SO HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

YEAH, I, I HAVE TO AGREE. I SEE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED OF BEING 30, YOUR SIGN, THAT JUST THE ONE SIGN IS 200, AND YOU HAVE PROPOSED 284. SO, YOU COULD GET ALL YOUR SIGNS ON THE SIDES, ALL YOUR DOORS AND EVERYTHING, AND ANOTHER SIGN AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO HAVE THE VARIANCE.

SO, I, I JUST, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT WITHOUT A STRONG REASON WHY THAT SIGN HAS TO BE THAT LARGE TO BE ON THAT STREET. WHEN I SEE THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN YOUR AERIAL, WHICH DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNS, CERTAINLY IN THE ARROW YOU HAVE OF THE.

ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO LARGE SIGNS. SO, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED. IT SETS A REALLY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT GOING THAT FAR OVER THE PERMITTED.

IT BECOMES MORE OF A. IT BECOMES MORE OF A.

I'M SORRY, IS BRANDING.

WELL, BESIDES THE BRANDING PART, MOST. ALMOST EVERY VIVIAN WESTWOOD CONSUMER THAT COMES IN WANTS SOME FORM OF PHOTO OP THAT THEY CAN TAKE WITH THE SIGN. I SEE THAT OVER AND OVER. IN MELROSE IN LOS ANGELES, PEOPLE STAND ACROSS THE STREET TO TAKE SIGNS WITH THE PINK NEON THAT WE HAVE THERE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW BIG IT IS, ACTUALLY. AND IT'S.

IT'S HUGE. IT'S HUGE FOR THE BRAND. IT'S A HUGE MARKETING THING FOR THE BRAND. AND IT'S QUITE IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WOW, POP FACTOR LIKE THAT THAT VIVIAN IS KNOWN FOR.

YOU COULD PUT IT INSIDE OR ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

DO YOU THINK IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT THE BOARD IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT BOARD CONTINUED THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION UNTIL NEXT MONTH OR THE FOLLOWING MONTH TO ALLOW THEM TO COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION, ALTERNATE PLAN, OR REDUCTION THE VARIANCE. WE JUST WOULDN'T KILL IT TODAY, BUT MAYBE ALLOW THEM TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION OF THE BUILDING, CONTINUE THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE SIGN SO THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL NEXT MONTH OR THE FOLLOWING MONTH.

SURE.

SO, I HAVE A THOUGHT PROCESS, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS SIGNAGE. IT'S REALLY LARGE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT OR NOT.

BUT HERE, IF, IF IT WERE TO BE ALLOWED, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE. SETTING THE SIDE, THE SIZE FOR JUST A SECOND. I WOULD LIKE. AND I. HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE, THAT SOMEHOW THE APPLICATION OF SUCH, YOU KNOW, IF IT EVER NEEDED TO BE REMOVED FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF VIVIAN WEST WOULD MOVE TO ANOTHER LOCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE FACADE WOULDN'T BE PEPPERED WITH LITTLE HOLES EVERYWHERE WHERE YOU CAN TELL A SIGN USED TO BE. AND I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD SIGNAGE THIS LARGE. BUT THERE CERTAINLY WAS LARGER SIGNAGE BACK WHEN THERE WERE ACTUAL RETAIL DOWN THERE. WE HAD GUESTS, WE HAD TERM AND CHARLIE, WE HAD VICTORIA'S SECRET. WE HAD BEEN IN REPUBLIC. LOOK, EVERY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS A RETAIL CORRIDOR, PRE-COVID, WE HAD LARGER SIGNAGE. NOW THERE'S NO SIGNAGE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE. SO THAT'S THE TRADE OFF THAT I'M LOOKING AT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THIS BEAUTIFUL.

REMIND ME AGAIN, THE FACADE WAS THE LIMESTONE.

YEAH, THE FLORAL LIMESTONE.

YOU KNOW, I WANT THAT TO BE ABLE, YOU KNOW, OR IN SIX YEARS WHEN VIVIAN WESTWOOD SAYS WE DON'T WANT A BRIGHT PINK SIGN, WE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE COULD REQUIRE THEM TO REPLACE THE KEYSTONE IN AREAS WHERE THE SIGN HAS PUNCTURED.

OKAY, I WOULD BE OPEN WITH THAT. I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT, NOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE ALL THESE HOLES.

EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY, ESPECIALLY LIKE IF THIS WAS HISTORIC KEYSTONE AND THAT WAS INITIALLY 100, WE WOULD ALLOW, WE WOULD REQUIRE A DIFFERENT SIGNAGE OR DIFFERENT ATTACHMENT. WE'VE DONE THIS WITH I THINK THE 407 LINCOLN ROAD BUILDING WHERE THERE'S A

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WE REQUIRED LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A SHELF WHERE THEY HAVE THE SIGN ON THE SHELF VERSUS ON THE STONE. SO. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S AN HISTORIC CONFIGURATION VERSUS THIS IS A BRAND-NEW CONFIGURATION. I THINK IN THIS CASE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE, IF THEY CHANGE THE SIGN, THEY ACTUALLY REPLACE THE STONE AS WELL AS PART OF THAT SIGNAGE REPLACEMENT.

ELIZABETH HAS A QUESTION.

JUST TO ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT I THINK I'M NOT OFFENDED BY THE SIGN.

BY NO MEANS. AND I THINK IF THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE MORE LIKE ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL, A MORE INTRICATE DESIGN, I WOULD SEE THE SIGN COMPETING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE BUILDING. BUT SINCE IT'S A RELATIVE, RELATIVELY STREAMLINED BUILDING, LIKE SQUARE, SQUARE WINDOWS, SO IT'S NOT REALLY COMPETING WITH THE SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CONFLICT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUES OPINIONS.

BY ALL MEANS.

I APPRECIATE IT. JUST KEEP IN MIND, VIVIAN WESTWOOD DID BUY THE BUILDING. THEY'RE NOT RENTING, THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON MOVING OR RENTING. I KNOW I'M ON RECORD. THERE IS TWO ACTUALLY HIGH-END RETAIL THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID IF THIS GOES THROUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THEIR SHOP IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND MOVE TO SOUTH BEACH. THIS IS PIGGY BANKING. MANY OTHER HIGH-END RETAILS, HIGH END RETAILS THAT I'M SURE EVERYBODY HERE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT ARE PLANNING ON COMING, WANTING AND WAITING FOR VIVIAN TO COME THROUGH, WHICH I THINK IS, I THINK YOU CAN, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A TESTAMENT TO WHAT SOUTH BEACH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

CAN I ADD QUICKLY? I ALSO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT I'M SEMI NEW TO THE BOARD. I'M LEARNING FROM MY COLLEAGUES. I'M SURPRISED YOU GUYS ARE NOT FOR IT. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT OCEAN DRIVE, BUT SEMI CONTEXTUAL, MAYBE NOT IMMEDIATELY CONTEXTUAL. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. IT'S NOT LIKE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS GOING INTO, IT'S A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

SO, I DON'T THINK THE LIGHT POLLUTION IS AN ISSUE. THE WHOLE AWNING IS ILLUMINATED.

SO, I'M HAPPY TO GO WITH HOWEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO GO.

BUT I GUESS, I GUESS MAYBE A QUESTION FOR MICHAEL. IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, DOES THAT OPEN THE FLOODGATES FOR ALL SIGNAGE? IT'S NOT A PRECEDENT. IT'S BASED UPON THE PACIFIC NATURE OF THE, THE PROPERTY HERE, THE BUILDING DESIGN DETAILS.

THIS IS VERY SITE SPECIFIC.

MITCH. NOVICK, WERE YOU.

I'M DONE.

OKAY. MITCH? YEAH.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE MID-1980S AND THIS PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ANOMALY. I, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU PROPOSED TODAY. I THINK THIS COULD BE A CATALYST IN REVITALIZING THIS PART OF MIAMI BEACH THAT WAS ONCE THRIVING WITH BUSINESS, WITH RESIDENTS, WITH EVERYTHING GOOD. AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, FOR YOUR CLIENT, FOR PURCHASING THE BUILDING AND IN MY MIND PROPOSING SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD VERY WELL BE IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY.

I APPRECIATE IT. YOU SHOULD THANK CARLO DIMARIO HIMSELF.

HE CAME HERE 20 YEARS AGO, FOUND LOVE, AND EVER SINCE THEN HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO COME BACK.

OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I WANTED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF WE CAN DO THAT NOW. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? MY NAME IS RON MOORE, I SWORN IN EARLIER. SORRY, SORRY.

YES.

OKAY.

YOU WERE SWORN IN.

OKAY.

I WAS HERE IN THE BEGINNING.

MY NAME IS RON MALDEN. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION.

IN THE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO VIVIAN WESTWOOD. THE SIGNAGE IS. IS VIVIAN WESTWOOD. I'VE LIVED IN LONDON. I'VE LIVED IN JAPAN.

IT'S A VIVIAN WESTWOOD. IT'S THAT STATEMENT. ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE SIGNAGE, THE EVERLAST GROUP, WHICH CREATES ALL THE BOXING, HAS A HUGE SIGN. I DON'T KNOW THE DIMENSION, BUT I THINK THE SIGNAGE IS A CATALYST AND IMPORTANT FOR BRINGING IN OTHER BUSINESSES. AND I WAS IN LOS ANGELES WHEN RODALE DRIVE HAD THAT DIP AND THEN CAME BACK, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO PUT A GOLD STAIRWELL IN THAT GOT ALL THE BUSINESS BACK. SO, WE ARE IN FAVOR AS NEIGHBORS AND SUPPORT THEM IN THIS CAPACITY. AND I THINK IT IS A HUGE CATALYST FOR BRINGING BACK THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY COLLEAGUE COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT HE SAID HE SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF AS.

YES, THANK YOU.

SINCE WE'VE RE-OPENED PUBLIC HEARING, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO RECLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REBUTTAL

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I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A NEON DISTRICT BETWEEN LINCOLN ROAD BETWEEN COLLINS AND WASHINGTON. AND IF WE WANT TO NOW TRY AND START SOMETHING ON COLLINS AVENUE, THEN I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP AND MAKE A CHANGE OVERALL, NOT DO IT SPOT LIKE, OH, WE'LL ACCEPT THIS, AND WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER THINGS. IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, THEN WE SHOULD MAKE A CHANGE OF WHAT THE SIGNAGE CAN BE ON COLLINS AVENUE, AND THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED EITHER THROUGH HPB OR THROUGH THE.

THROUGH THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A COUPLE SIGNS IN DECEMBER FOR THAT AREA OF LINCOLN ROAD THAT ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL AND GREATER SIGNAGE.

YOUR POINT, RAY? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING. MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT AS THE DISCUSSION ITEM.

MICHAEL, MAYBE WE CAN ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM TO TALK THROUGH WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

SURE. I THINK ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE AREA AND LINCOLN ROAD IS THAT YOU HAD SORT OF LARGE AREAS OF SOLID BUILDING. THAT'S WHY YOU HAD THESE LARGE, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE THAT WAS PART OF A, SAY, A THEATER OR SOME SORT OF USE THAT HAD THAT SORT OF ALLOWED, LIKE THE BACKSIDE, LIKE BIRD ENDS, LIKE THE BACKSIDE OF MACY'S.

RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE, SAY, THE 200, 300 BLOCK OF LINCOLN ROAD HAD SORT OF LARGE MASONRY WALL AREAS THAT SORT OF LENDED THEMSELVES TO LARGER SIGNAGE. SO, THIS AREA IS DIFFERENT, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND I THINK IT GENERALLY WARRANTS A DISCUSSION.

I THINK IT WARRANTS THE DISCUSSION.

WELL, BECAUSE THIS WAS NOTICED TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

BUT WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOD, NO. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, AND I THINK IT'S BETTER IF IT'S COMMUNITY WIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT SINCE WE GOT NO COMPLAINTS AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS, I COULD VOTE YES FOR THIS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GO FURTHER FOR FUTURE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT, I WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, BUT I WANT TO PUT SOME MORE THOUGHT INTO IT BECAUSE I AGREE.

RIGHT.

AND. AND ESPECIALLY WITH ELIZABETH'S COMMENTS, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, THE FRONTAGE OF IT AND THE FACADE, WHAT IT IS, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE OLD VICTORIA'S SECRET ACROSS THE STREET.

RIGHT.

AND SO HOW, YOU KNOW WHERE AND HOW WOULD YOU HAVE SIGNAGE THERE? AND SO, TO HAVE A BLANKET ROLE, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S A WAY WE COULD CRAFT IT AS FAR AS A RECOMMENDATION. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT. THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON. BUT I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. I SAW RANDY'S LOOK ON. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE FURTHER COMMENT? NO. I HEAR ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS AND I APPLAUD COMING IN HERE AND DOING. IT'S FANTASTIC. AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST NEON SIGNS. WHEN YOU FIRST SEE THIS, IT'S LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A BIG SIGN. AND WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF BRANDING ON A BUILDING WHICH IN ITSELF HAS, YOU KNOW, A CHARACTER. I'M NOT TERRIBLY FOND OF THE CANOPY ON TOP OF THE LIGHTS. I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE AT NIGHTTIME UP THERE LIGHTING UP THAT WALL WHEN. WHEN THE NEON WAS DOING AN AMAZING JOB. SO I'M FINE.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT. WHAT ARE THE HOURS THAT YOU GUYS ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF THE STORE OPERATION? 10 TO 6.

SO MAYBE THERE'S A CONDITION THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER A CERTAIN TIME, THE CANOPY LIGHTING IS TURNED OFF.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT RUNS ALL NIGHT LONG.

WE DO THAT IN OUR NEW YORK CITY LOCATION. ALSO, THE LIGHTING IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY THIN AND LIGHT. IT'S NOT LIKE A LIGHT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING GLOW. THAT'S ALL THAT IT IS. BUT YES, IT IS GOING TO BE TURNED OFF WHEN THE STORE IS CLOSED. 6:00PM GO AHEAD, RANDALL.

SO, IS THAT A REVERSE CHANNEL WITH A COVERING ON THE BULBS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT'S NOT BACKLIT. IT'S FRONT LIT.

CORRECT.

WELL, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE CAN USE, SO IT. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COST.

BUT THE ONE WE USE IN NEW YORK, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS BASED OUT OF, IT'S A. IT'S A LED PANEL THAT'S A. THAT HAS AN ACRYLIC COVER AND THAT'S HOW THE PANELS SIT. SO, IT'S VERY LIGHT.

IT'S A BOX LIGHT AND THE BOX LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIT UP.

OKAY.

IT'S LIKE A FLAT PANEL WHERE IT LIGHTS UP.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

IT DEFINITELY LOOKS MORE LIKE.

YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS INSIDE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

IT'S.

IT'S.

IT'S PROBABLY, I'D SAY ABOUT 20, 20 WATTS. IT'S NOT THAT HIGH. IT'S NOT THAT BRIGHT.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

SO, WE SHOULD DO ON ONE MOTION FOR THE OVERALL DESIGN AND THEN ANOTHER MOTION FOR THE VARIANCES.

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FIRST.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE THREE VARIANCES? AYE.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? MAKE A MOTION FOR THE SIGNAGE? SECOND.

I WOULD SAY THAT SHOULD INCLUDE THE OVERALL DESIGN AS WELL.

YES.

IN THE OVERALL DESIGN AS WELL.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS.

[7. HPB26-0696, 1751, 1757 & 1775 COLLINS AVENUE.]

YOU'RE GOOD TO GO HERE. OKAY, COOL.

THE NEXT ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS HV 26, 1751, 1757, 1775 COLLINS AVE. THIS IS FOR THE SOUTH SEAS HOTEL RICHMOND AND THE RALEIGH HOTEL. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED REQUESTING AN AFTER THE FACT CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING TERRAZZO FLOORING WITHIN PORTIONS OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, ALONG WITH CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE RECREATION OF THE TERRAZZO FLOORING CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTATION IN CONNECTION WITH PREVIOUSLY APPROVED STRUCTURAL STABILIZATION AND FACADE PRESERVATION WORK. JUST A MOMENT. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE INTERIOR TERRAZZO AND WITHIN THE LOBBY AREA, SOME OF THE OUTDOOR TERRACES IN THE PORCH. THIS REMOVAL WAS UNDERTAKEN IN CONNECTION WITH THE NECESSARY STRUCTURAL STABILIZATION AND FACADE PRESERVATION WORK TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT DETERIORATION FOLLOWING THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY. THE OWNER CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT IT DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT AGE-RELATED DEFICIENCIES THAT WERE WITHIN THE PORTIONS OF THE FOUNDATION WHEN THEY DID REMOVE SOME OF THAT STRUCTURAL CIVILIZATION. IT LOOKED LIKE IT SEEMED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT WAS TO REMOVE PRETTY MUCH THE TERRAZZO FLOORING THAT'S LOCATED. THEY ARE PLANNING TO RECREATE THE ENTIRE TERRAZZO INCLUDING SOME OF THE PATTERNS THAT YOU SEE IN SOME OF THE LOBBY AREA SUCH AS LIKE THE MARTINI GLASS AND SOME OF THESE ICONIC SYMBOLS THAT ARE WITHIN THESE HOTELS.

BUT SO, STAFF IT DOES SAY IN THE STRUCTURAL REPORT THAT REMEDIAL MEASURES SHOULD INCLUDE DEMOLISHING THE EFFECTIVE SLAB ON GRADE, RECONSTRUCTING IT OVER COMPETENT SOIL AND REPLICATING THE TERRAZZO FINISH.

IN THIS CASE, THE REMOVAL OF THE TERRAZZO FLOORING WAS DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH AND AS A NECESSARY TO FACILITATE THE STRUCTURAL CIVILIZATION MEASURED REQUIRED TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILDING AND THE SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REQUEST FOR THE AFTER-EFFECT CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING TERRAZZO FLOORING. AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE RECREATION OF THE TERRAZZO. AND WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

ONE SECOND ALFREDO. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. FOR THE RECORD, ALFREDO GONZALEZ WITH GREENBERG TROYO OFFICE AT 33 N. 2ND AVE HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE DAVID BUTTER FROM NALA RALEIGH CAPITAL LLC.

OWNERSHIP GENGHIS HADID AND ARCHITECT KOBE KARP. I KNOW WE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD THIS IS AN AFTER THE FACT BUT WE CAME BACK IN APRIL TO THE HPB TO THE BOARD AND WE AS A DISCUSSION ITEM WHEN ALL THIS WAS DISCOVERED AND WE WERE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE ADMINISTRATION HOW TO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN. LET ME TAKE ONE STEP BACK. MY CLIENT ACQUIRED THE RALEIGH HOTEL BECAME THE FIFTH OWNER IN 14 YEARS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. SO, WHEN HE IMMEDIATELY ACQUIRED THE SITE STARTED HAVING ACCESS TO RALEIGH, UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS THE RALEIGH HAD BEEN UNDER VARIOUS OWNERS STRIPPED DOWN TO THE CONDITION EVERYONE HAD SEEN. AND WE'LL GO OVER THE SLIDES AND UNDERSTOOD THE CONCERN. WE HAD HAD THAT SAME CONCERN FROM HPB MEMBERS FROM CITY OFFICIALS, ADMINISTRATION. EVERYONE WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE APPROACHING HURRICANE SEASON AND THIS ANOTHER YEAR OF THIS BUILDING NOT BEING PROTECTED.

SO IMMEDIATELY EFFORTS WERE DONE FOR COMPLETE SHORING BRACING OF THE BUILDING WHICH I CAN TELL YOU WAS ALL COMPLETED PRIOR

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RIGHT NOW 100% OF THE TERRAZZO HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE RICHMOND SOUTH SEAS. THE LOWER LOBBY OF THE RALEIGH, THE UPPER LOBBY, UPPER LEVEL OF THE RALEIGH HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL SAFEGUARDS BEFORE WE CAN REMOVE AND THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. I COULD GO THROUGH A QUICK SLIDE AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE IMAGES WE HAVE. COULD WE BRING THE PRESENTATION UP? PERFECT.

SO, THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS NOW AFTER THE RALEIGH'S BEEN SHORED UP AND PROTECTED. SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THREE HISTORIC BUILDINGS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE RALEIGH SITE WE REFER TO AS THE RALEIGH SITE.

BUT IT'S THE THREE E.L.

MURRAY DIXON HISTORIC BUILDINGS BUILT IN 19401941 WHICH IS THE RALEIGH, THE RICHMOND AND THEN THE SOUTHERN ONE IS SOUTH SEAS. HERE'S A RENDERING OF HOW THEY LOOK WHEN THEY BE FULLY RESTORED TO THEIR ORIGINAL FACADES WHICH WERE ALTERED IN THE 50S WITH ANOTHER FLOOR ADDED IN THE RICHMOND SOUTH SEAS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND I ALSO ADVISE AS PART OF THE SHORING OF THE RALEIGH THE 1996 EDITION PENTHOUSE EDITION OF THE RALEIGH WHICH WAS REMOVED AND HAS BEEN REMOVED. SO HERE ARE JUST SOME IMAGES OF THE. WE DID EXTENSIVE 3D AND SAMPLING OF ALL THE TERRAZZO AND ALL THE PATTERNS THROUGHOUT THE THREE BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD BE REPLICATED. HERE'S SOME OF THE IMAGES. SO, WE HAVE ALSO THINGS LIKE QUESTIONS LIKE STAFF SAID IF WE COULD PRESERVE LIKE THE MARTINI IN THE, IN THE RALEIGH IT'S IN THE TERRAZZO THAT'S BEEN DELICATELY REMOVED. IT LIKELY CAN'T BE PUT BACK ONTO THE GROUND BUT IT CAN BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING ON THE FRAME BUT IT COULD BE PRESERVED. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THOSE EFFORTS. AND THIS IS THE SOUTH SEAS IN THE RICHMOND. AND THAT. AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE HERE FOR THIS LIMITED JUST FOR THIS LIMITED MODIFICATION SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER FOR THE AFTER THE FACT WE WILL COME. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE RALEIGH. WE WILL COME TO A LARGER SCALE APPLICATION FOR MODIFICATION PROBABLY BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

OKAY, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? GO AHEAD.

JUST A QUICK ONE. CAN YOU GO OVER EXACTLY HOW MUCH MORE YOU'RE REMOVING AT THIS POINT BUT HOW MUCH MORE OF THE TERRAZZO FLOOR IS BEING REMOVED? THE ENTIRE TERRAZZO FLOOR, EVERYTHING EVERYTHING'S REMOVED BECAUSE WITH THE REPORTS THAT YOU HAVE, THE D. SIMONE REPORT SHOWS THERE MULTIPLE REASONS. A LOT OF THE SAND UNDERNEATH THE SLAB HAS CREATED VOIDS. THERE'S NO ACCESS THERE'S LIFE SAFETY ISSUES FOR WORKERS TO TRY TO REBUILD THAT AND NOT IMPACT THE TERRAZZO. SO, WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW TOO THAT IT WASN'T LIKE THEY CAME IN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SAID WE NEED TO REMOVE THIS, THIS ALL ENTIRELY. THEY CAME INITIALLY SAYING OKAY WE NEED TO REMOVE THIS PORTION AROUND THE COLUMNS WHICH WE WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW WHERE WAS THE APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW LINE IN THE METAL AND TERRAZZO TO REMOVE. AND AFTER ALL THAT THEY SAID THAT THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS BASICALLY SAID THEY HAD TO REMOVE MORE AND MORE OR TO REALLY DO THE FOUNDATION.

SO, THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS NOW GOING BACK FOR PROBABLY ALMOST A YEAR IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH US AND TRYING TO SHORE UP THE FOUNDATIONS AND FOR THE THREE BUILDINGS.

YEAH, AND MICHAEL'S CORRECT. I MEAN WE STARTED THE PROCESS TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD AVOID COMING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL REQUESTS BUT AS MORE INVESTIGATION AND ANALYSIS BY ENGINEERS CAME IN IT JUST.

IT GOT WORSE.

SO OKAY MITCH, HAVE THE THREE STRUCTURES BEEN SHORED UP AND STABILIZED AT THIS POINT AS OF EARLY MAY? YES, 100%. SO YEAH. IF YOU, IF YOU GO

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SO, WE. THAT THAT HASN'T THAT.

THAT THAT'S THE SITE. THAT'S AN AREA OF THE SITE THAT'S THE MOST ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. YOU SEE AS WE LOOK AT REDESIGNING OTHER ISSUES AND THAT WORK IS CONTINUING.

YES SIR. YEAH, THERE'S OVER THE NEW OWNERSHIP EXPENDED OVER $6 MILLION AT TO THIS POINT IN TO THE SITE PRIMARILY IN THE. PRIMARILY INTO THE RALEIGH AND THE SHORING AND CONTINUE PROTECTION GO HIGHER.

YEAH, AND AS GENUS WAS JUST ON ME. HAPPY TO INVITE ANY OF THE BOARD IF THEY WANT A TOUR OF THE SITE TO SEE THE CONDITIONS.

CAT, I HAVE TO ADMIT I DON'T. I DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO. SO, IT'S ALREADY DEMOLISHED.

THAT'S WHY SO WE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION NOT IN BEFORE YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO.

SO, THE WATER IS NOT CUT OFF.

THIS APPLICATION CAME IN BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY.

THEY HAD TO DO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING WAS NOT IN JEOPARDY DURING HURRICANE SEASON. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT THIS WHOLE NON-TRADITIONAL PROCESS.

BUT FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE IF WE WERE NOT TO APPROVE. IT'S ALREADY DEMOLISHED. SO, WHAT WOULD WE BE DOING AT THAT POINT? I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO PROVE IT, OBVIOUSLY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. MY CLIENT ASKED ME THAT QUESTION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO.

NONETHELESS, WE HAVE TO REPLICATE IT. I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, THERE'S REALLY. IT'S BEEN REMOVED. SO. RIGHT.

THE OTHER. AND THE OTHER SIDE.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE BEING ASKED IS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR THE RECREATION OF THE TERRAZZO.

ARE WE LOOKING AT A DESIGN THAT'S MATCHING? THAT'S BASICALLY, IT'S GOING TO MATCH EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE. THEY DID KEEP PORTIONS OF CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, DECORATIVE ELEMENTS THAT THEY CAN PUT BACK INTO THE FLOOR, BUT IT WILL BE MATCHING EXACTLY. TERRAZZO DESIGN HAS COME A LONG WAY OVER THE YEARS. YOU'VE SEEN PROBABLY A LOT OF BAD PATCHES AND, YOU KNOW, BAD WORK, BUT THERE'S REALLY GOOD CRAFTSMAN'S CRAFTSMANSHIP AND REALLY GOOD TERRAZZO INSTALLERS THAT CAN REALLY REPLICATE THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE MATCHING WHAT WAS THERE EXACTLY, BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A DESIGN OR ANYTHING.

BASICALLY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MATCHING WHAT WAS THERE.

WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT. THAT THOSE SAMPLES ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED AND INSTALLED EVENTUALLY.

YEAH. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF 3D RENDERINGS, IMAGES, SAMPLES.

THEY DID REALLY GOOD, LIKE, REALLY GOOD IMAGING OF THE.

OF THE TERRAZZO.

I THINK WE LIKE THE SCANS THEMSELVES.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO, WE COULD WORK WITH STAFF WHEN IT. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO PUT IT ALL BACK. IT'LL LOOK IDENT. IT'LL BE A COMPLETE REPLICA.

YEAH.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, YOU SAID COMPLETELY REPLICATED. SO, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT COMING BACK THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF? THE. NO. THE TERRAZZO IS 100% GONE. WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES LIKE THE MARTINI MASTER.

THAT'S THE MOST FAMOUS ONE. WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT IT BACK ON THE GROUND OR WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FRAME IT UP AND IT'LL BE ON THE SITE. SO.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE WE CANNOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THE LEVEL OF DEMOLITION OF TERRAZZO THAT THEY ARE.

THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.

RIGHT.

I'M SORRY, MICHAEL, ADMINISTRATIVELY, YOU CANNOT APPROVE.

BUT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

SO, IT WAS DONE WITH US.

THAT'S WHY WE PUT. BROUGHT THIS TO THE BOARD AS A DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS AWARE OF THIS. THIS WAS HAPPENING. SO. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THE TORAH WOULD HAVE THE BUILDING COLLAPSE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE, WE DID THIS.

OKAY, BUT IS THERE ANY REASON WHY IT DIDN'T COME TO US BEFORE THE FACT THEY COULDN'T, THEY COULDN'T MAKE, THEY COULD NOT MAKE AN APPLICATION IN TIME BEFORE THE BOARD.

EXACTLY.

AND, AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL SAY, MAYBE EACH BUILDING OFFICIAL REVIEWED ALL THE REPORTS AND HE WAS CONSIDERING EXPLORING, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY.

AND WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT, WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT BUILDING.

THERE WAS A SERIOUS CONCERN.

SO. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE TIMELINES AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO COME TO THE BOARD AND THEN GET THE WORK DONE AND ALSO BEAT THE HURRICANE SEASON. THAT'S WHAT WE DID. COME IN APRIL BEFORE THE BOARD AND GAVE YOU A FULL BRIEFING OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT HAPPENED, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AN OFFICIAL HEARING TO TODAY'S THE OFFICIAL HEARING.

I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT BECAUSE, LIKE, FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, YOU LOOK AT WHEN THE SETI HAD TO REBUILD THE VANDERBILT.

THEY REBUILT THE VANDERBILT ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY DIDN'T REPLACE THE TERRAZZO. THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ON THE INSIDE. SO, I THINK FOR YOU TO BRING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION TO THE BEST THAT CAN BE DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE APPROVALS FROM STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I, I REALLY COMMEND THAT YOU ARE FULLY RESTORING WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE OUTSIDE AND

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THANK YOU.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

YES, MADAM CHAIR? YOU SAID, YOU SAID THE MARTINI GLASS IS COMING BACK, BUT MAYBE NOT IN THE WAY THAT IT IS.

SO, WHAT'S HAPPENING? SORRY.

SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS, LIKE THE MAR, MARTINI GLASS.

RIGHT.

WE, UNTIL THE NEW SLAB AND EVERYTHING'S PUT IN, WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T THINK IT COULD BE PUT BACK EXACTLY IN THE SAME SPOT. WE MAY HAVE TO DO A REPLICA OF THE MARTINI GLASS, BUT WE HAVE PRESERVED IT SO IT COULD BE PUT UP ON THE WALL, PUT SOMEWHERE ON THE SITE AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING ONE THAT'S IN THE FLOOR. YOU HAVE REMOVED THAT AND PRESERVED IT. OKAY, NOW I FOLLOW. OKAY. AND SO THAT MAY BE PRESENTED SOMEWHERE OR PUT BACK.

EXACTLY.

AND IF NOT PUT BACK, WOULD THERE BE A REPLICA OF IN THE LOCATION? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU.

YES. SO, WHATEVER IS NOT PUT BACK, LIKE THE MARTINI GLASS, A REPLICA WOULD BE.

BUT BECAUSE WE PRESERVED IT AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF, WE COULD FRAME IT UP AND IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE LOBBY. THE ORIGINAL. YOU'LL SEE THE REPLICA ON THE.

RIGHT. PERFECT. YEAH. I WAS CONFUSED, LIKE, OH, WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE MORTALITY BATHROOM.

WE'RE PUTTING. WE'RE PUTTING IT ON THE WALL. OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I GUESS WE CAN OPEN. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES? NO.

NO. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY ON ZOOM? NO.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON ZOOM.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, MEG LISTO, MDPL.

OUR COMMENTS THAT WE SENT TO YOU WERE WRITTEN OBVIOUSLY BEFORE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S JUST BEEN SHARED. SO, I'M GOING TO AMEND WHAT I'M SAYING AS I GO. I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S NOT THE MOST ELOQUENT VERSION. MDPL RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRUCTURAL STABILIZATION WORK BEING UNDERTAKEN AT THE RALEIGH, RICHMOND AND SOUTH SEAS AND STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION OF THESE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS WITHIN THE OCEAN DRIVE COLLINS AVENUE HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE WERE GREATLY CONCERNED BY THE REMOVAL OF THE HISTORIC TERRAZZO FLOORING. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS DEEMED NECESSARY TO UNDERTAKE EMERGENCY STRUCTURAL AND FOUNDATION WORK TO STABILIZE THE BUILDINGS APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, AND THAT IT'S BEING BROUGHT BACK HERE FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. OUR QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THE CITY GETTING IN RETURN FOR THE LOSS OF THIS HISTORIC MATERIAL? WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PRESERVING A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS SOMETIMES REQUIRES THE UNAVOIDABLE REMOVAL OF AN ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE, BUT HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A CORRESPONDING COMMITMENT TO RESTORATION, RECONSTRUCTION, OR ANOTHER MEANINGFUL PRESERVATION BENEFIT. AND OUR QUESTIONS WERE, WILL THE HISTORIC TERRAZZO PATTERNS AND MATERIALS BE DOCUMENTED AND REPLICATED? YES, THEY WILL.

WILL TERRAZZO BE RESTORED OR RECONSTRUCTED IN OTHER SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC AREAS OF THE HOTEL? YES, IT WILL.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL HISTORIC FEATURES THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COMMIT TO RESTORING AS PART OF THIS REQUEST? HASN'T REALLY COME UP. WE BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD APPROVE THE AFTER THE FACT LOSS AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE A CLEAR AND TANGIBLE PRESERVATION COMMITMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE IN THE MOTION IS THAT THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT TO DO WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M NOT IN LINE.

OKAY.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY FURTHER.

ONLY COMMENT? I HAVE.

MICHAEL, WERE YOU GOING TO CORRECT THE TYPOS ON THE ORDER? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SO WE HAD THE CORRECT ORDER. DID DEBBIE LEAVE YOU THE COPY? DO YOU NEED.

YEAH, DEBBIE GAVE ME THE COPY.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND, MR. BRESLIN. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION PASSES, 6 TO 0.

THANK YOU VERY. MUCH.

[FUTURE MEETING DATE REMINDER: October 13th, 2026]

YOU CAN DONATE MY LUNCH TO CHARITY.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. AND SECOND BY DONATING LUNCH. SO, WE'LL ADJOURN. THANKS.

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